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Judi<br />

Yes she's a really valuable woman. I<br />

thought it was good that B wrote that list.<br />

Bill<br />

Yes it's helpful isn't it?<br />

Judi<br />

Yeah I said to her immediately when I saw<br />

that,<br />

“Great, let’s do that because it makes it<br />

much easier”.<br />

Bill<br />

Well she's, I think it's through getting<br />

involved in events and things but I’m<br />

getting much more of a sense that she's<br />

supporting what's going on.<br />

Judi<br />

Yes she is. * (see * in adjacent column)<br />

Bill *<br />

Judi *<br />

Bill<br />

Yeah that's right. But it feels like we're<br />

actually getting a service from her, she's<br />

thinking like what needs to done, what<br />

would help them.<br />

Judi Well you see R hasn't been here and<br />

T isn’t around, she's very nervous of T. So<br />

... she might be more nervous with men<br />

than women, you know. So she's quite<br />

good because they were all bossing me<br />

around.<br />

Bill Sorry?<br />

Judi They were bossing me around, other<br />

women boss other women around.<br />

Chapter Eight – A Consulting Break - Page 244<br />

There’s a quality of non sequitur here. I’ve<br />

idealised a man (one of the students, as it<br />

happens my supervisee), Judi a woman (an<br />

administrator at the Centre),<br />

A woman who supports what’s going on.<br />

Judi is talking here as a manager of the<br />

agency, the Acting Director. She’s<br />

changed role.<br />

* The text at these points, which does not<br />

have a significant bearing on the<br />

research, has been deleted from this copy<br />

of the transcript for reasons of privacy.<br />

I think Judi is trying to say that the arrival<br />

of a new staff member has protected her<br />

from bullying by the female administrative<br />

staff, who are afraid of men but not when<br />

they are absent, as they are now.<br />

Reflecting at bi-logical depth, Judi is also<br />

probably telling me that she’s nervous<br />

with me.

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