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315WH<br />

HIV<br />

1 DECEMBER 2010<br />

HIV<br />

316WH<br />

[Ms Diane Abbott]<br />

When we look at some of the indices around HIV/AIDS,<br />

we see that t<strong>here</strong> has been an increase in HIV testing<br />

among gay men. Testing rose from 58% in 1997 to 72%<br />

in 2008. We have seen a plateau in new diagnoses<br />

among gay men, and we now see a consistently high rate<br />

of condom use among them—at least nine out of 10<br />

now use condoms. The fact that we have seen such<br />

progress is partly a tribute to the people who took up<br />

the issue all those years ago. It is also a continuing<br />

tribute to the communities, activists and health providers<br />

who provide both care and commitment, and we need<br />

to acknowledge that today in this debate.<br />

However, t<strong>here</strong> is still some way to go. How we go<br />

forward on HIV/AIDS will be a test of the reorganisation<br />

of both the NHS and public health that has been<br />

announced in recent months. In principle, I do not<br />

think that anyone in this Chamber is opposed to the<br />

reorganisation, but it is just this sort of issue, which is<br />

not consistent across the country, that is not necessarily<br />

well represented in GPs’ lists and has different levels of<br />

information across the country; t<strong>here</strong> may not be as<br />

much information in rural areas as t<strong>here</strong> is in Brighton<br />

and London. That will be a test of the reorganisation’s<br />

effectiveness.<br />

We know that AIDS can affect anyone, and that<br />

apart from the gay community the largest community<br />

affected by HIV/AIDS is that made up of black African<br />

men and women; currently, 38% of new HIV diagnosis<br />

is among that group. The stigma attached to HIV in<br />

that community cannot be overstated, and it very much<br />

hampers efforts to reach out to people and achieve early<br />

diagnosis.<br />

The problem among black African men and women—<br />

and among other groups, as well—is that they present<br />

late and are t<strong>here</strong>fore diagnosed late. That not only<br />

gives them a poor prognosis; it means that the cost of<br />

treatment is much more expensive than it need be. That<br />

is true of any individual or any group that presents late.<br />

Another issue with black African men is that even<br />

though they may be having sex with men, they refuse to<br />

consider themselves as gay. They think that HIV is<br />

something for the gay community and not for them, so<br />

they end up presenting very late indeed. They are more<br />

likely to be undiagnosed and to live in areas in which a<br />

relatively high proportion of the population are not on<br />

their GP’s list, so they are not really interacting with the<br />

authorities.<br />

I should like to use this debate to stress the importance<br />

of educational and informative work generally and with<br />

the black and African community in particular. We<br />

must do more with the Churches, because that is probably<br />

the most effective way to reach those groups. Any<br />

Sunday morning, t<strong>here</strong> will more people in African-led<br />

churches in Hackney than at any political party meetings<br />

for 12 months of the year.<br />

We need to normalise testing and offer it in a much<br />

wider range of settings—not just for black and African<br />

men and women, but for the population as a whole. I<br />

was routinely tested when I had my son 19 years ago<br />

and thought nothing of it. We need to make testing<br />

more routine so that people do not think, “If I go for<br />

this test, it will badge me as someone at risk.” Universal<br />

testing may well be a step too far, but we need to make<br />

testing available in a wider range of contexts.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Inverclyde said that<br />

he did not want to talk about international issues, but<br />

given that 38% of new HIV diagnosis is among black<br />

African men and women, I do not apologise for raising<br />

the issue of funds for the Global Fund to fight AIDS,<br />

Tuberculosis and Malaria. I know that that is not a<br />

matter for the Minister and I do not expect her to<br />

respond on the specific point. None the less, will she<br />

pass on to her colleagues the very concerning fact that<br />

the global fund is £13 billion short of what it needs? If<br />

the UK was to raise its pledged amount in line with<br />

France and other western European countries, the fund<br />

would be able to go to private sector donors such as the<br />

Gates Foundation and reach the amount of money it<br />

needs.<br />

In that context, I should like to mention—again, I do<br />

not expect the Minister to respond on this point—that<br />

in the next few weeks we will have EU trade talks with<br />

India in Brussels. T<strong>here</strong> is a great concern that as a<br />

consequence of the trade talks, India might not be able<br />

to produce the cheap generic drugs that have played<br />

such a huge role in the fight against AIDS in Africa.<br />

That would be a blow not so much for Indian industry,<br />

but for the millions of people in Africa who have<br />

benefited from access to cheap generic drugs.<br />

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is<br />

good news. Thanks to new drugs, research and greater<br />

understanding, people are now living with HIV. As one<br />

of my hon. Friends said earlier, we have 65,390 people<br />

in the community living with HIV. In fact, it is increasing<br />

faster among the over-50s than among any other group,<br />

which raises new issues that were not considered in the<br />

era of the adverts with the crashing tombstones and the<br />

voice from above.<br />

My hon. Friend the Member for Ealing, Southall<br />

(Mr Sharma) mentioned the issue of depression and<br />

how that interconnects with sufferers of HIV/AIDS<br />

and the support that they need in relation to that. T<strong>here</strong><br />

are ongoing concerns about care and support that were<br />

not an issue 20 years ago. If we are to offer sufferers<br />

from HIV/AIDS equity of health care and, as far as<br />

possible, a good quality of life, we must consider care<br />

and support, within the new health service and local<br />

authority structures, as we have not in the past.<br />

As I said at the start of my remarks, the reorganisation<br />

of the commissioning of health care and of the public<br />

health service will be tested by this issue. Many ordinary<br />

people on the ground will judge the reorganisation by<br />

how issues such as this are dealt with. I stress, as my<br />

hon. Friends have stressed, the importance of a national<br />

strategy. We need to consider how it can go forward<br />

under the new arrangements. Will the Minister tell us<br />

who will be responsible for commissioning and funding<br />

the information work that is needed now more than<br />

ever—in particular, the specific education work that<br />

goes into the communities that I have mentioned? Who<br />

will be responsible for commissioning preventive work,<br />

care, treatment and support? I will listen with interest to<br />

the Minister’s responses to those questions.<br />

I welcome the new public health arrangements in<br />

principle. Public health has been a core activity of local<br />

government since the 19th century and so, as a former<br />

local councillor, I am glad that public health has “come<br />

home” to local authorities. However, because I know

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