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277WH<br />

Drugs<br />

6 JUNE 2013<br />

Drugs<br />

278WH<br />

right to highlight. This is wrecking many countries. We<br />

did not look at the situation with heroin and marijuana,<br />

but the same damaging effects apply in different countries.<br />

President Santos has been taking a strong stance,<br />

saying that his country will try to control this problem;<br />

but we cannot expect countries to be torn apart for ever<br />

in an effort to control a problem that cannot be controlled.<br />

I am delighted that, in 2016, the <strong>United</strong> Nations General<br />

Assembly will have a special session to look again at its<br />

international drugs policy. I hope that, whatever flavour<br />

of Government we have then, we will be working with<br />

people like President Santos and with the reformers to<br />

try to solve this global problem.<br />

We have worked for 40 years with a criminalisation<br />

process that has not delivered what we said it should<br />

deliver in 1971. It has not worked for the users of drugs,<br />

for society at large or for the Treasury. T<strong>here</strong> are much<br />

better ways.<br />

2.20 pm<br />

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab): I<br />

welcome you to the Chair, Mr Bayley. It is a pleasure to<br />

serve under your chairmanship. I apologise, but I have a<br />

very sore throat, so my voice is not quite as it should be.<br />

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cambridge<br />

(Dr Huppert). I will certainly look to his pronouncements<br />

in future for an indication of Liberal Democrat policy.<br />

I start by recognising that the report is an important<br />

piece of work. I pay tribute to the leadership of the<br />

Select Committee’s Chair, my right hon. Friend the<br />

Member for Leicester East (Keith Vaz). I also pay<br />

tribute to all the members of the Committee who<br />

contributed to the report, which draws upon the huge<br />

experience of different people and organisations. As we<br />

have heard, many different countries have been considered.<br />

I had an opportunity to listen to some of the witness<br />

sessions. I heard Sir Richard Branson and Russell Brand<br />

give evidence, and I attended the Committee’s one-day<br />

conference in <strong>Parliament</strong>. I think it was very useful to<br />

invite the general public in to hear the deliberations of<br />

that Committee.<br />

I visited Colombia after the Select Committee’s visit,<br />

and I know from my conversations with the Serious<br />

Organised Crime Agency officers based in Colombia<br />

that they were delighted to be able to explain the<br />

international role they play in addressing the drugs<br />

problem. They do some very important work, which I<br />

am pleased has been recognised in the report.<br />

The report is wide-ranging and contains many<br />

recommendations. Because of the time, I will go through<br />

some of the recommendations that I believe are key. I<br />

look to the Minister to answer some of my questions on<br />

the approach the Government will take to addressing<br />

the Committee’s recommendations.<br />

I start with the recommendation that the lead for<br />

drugs policy should be shared between the Home Office<br />

and the Department of Health, with a designated point<br />

person co-ordinating policy. That might seem an unlikely<br />

place to start, but I think it is absolutely essential that<br />

drugs policy is co-ordinated across Departments. I will<br />

address that theme in the points I raise this afternoon.<br />

The Opposition recognise the importance of a co-ordinated<br />

approach, and it is certainly important to recognise that<br />

t<strong>here</strong> has been a high level of cross-departmental work<br />

on drugs over the past 10 years.<br />

The Minister, although based in the Home Office, is<br />

responding on behalf of the Government, and I know<br />

he takes seriously his responsibilities on drugs. I question<br />

whether it should be necessary for two Departments to<br />

be involved with drugs, because the Minister is able<br />

today to discuss aspects of the drugs strategy that sit<br />

not only within the Home Office but within the Department<br />

of Education and other bodies, such as Public Health<br />

England and the NHS.<br />

That leads me to the report’s recommendation on the<br />

need to strengthen and open up the inter-ministerial<br />

group on drugs, which the Minister chairs. One of the<br />

recommendations is that the group’s minutes, agendas<br />

and attendance lists should be published. I have spent<br />

much of the past 18 months trying to get details of<br />

those minutes, agendas and attendance lists through<br />

parliamentary questions, and I have resorted to freedom<br />

of information requests. I have been continually thwarted<br />

by the Home Office, so I think that recommendation<br />

would help us to understand and appreciate what is<br />

happening across Government.<br />

We can see the importance of cross-Government<br />

working when we look at the record of achievement<br />

over the past 10 years on reducing the health harms of<br />

drug use, particularly heroin and crack cocaine use. All<br />

the key indicators are improving, and some of them<br />

have already been mentioned.<br />

The number of drug users is falling, particularly<br />

among the 16 to 24 age group, although, as the hon.<br />

Member for Cambridge highlighted, that may not give<br />

us a true picture if we take legal highs into account. The<br />

number of drug deaths has fallen even more sharply—more<br />

than halving between 2001 and 2011—partly because<br />

we have had much better access to treatment and because<br />

treatment is more successful. The average waiting time<br />

to access treatment was nine weeks in 2001; it was five<br />

days in 2011, and it is getting more effective. Only 27%<br />

of treatment programmes were successful in 2005, but<br />

the figure rose to 41% in 2011.<br />

Finally, and probably most importantly, more people<br />

are completing treatment. In 2005, 37,000 people dropped<br />

out of treatment before completion, w<strong>here</strong>as only 11,000<br />

completed it. By 2011, those figures had almost reversed:<br />

17,000 people dropped out of treatment, w<strong>here</strong>as nearly<br />

30,000 completed it. I am sure we could see further<br />

improvement, and I am not complacent at all, but we<br />

ought to recognise that t<strong>here</strong> has been huge improvement<br />

in treatment outcomes over the past 10 years. I say that<br />

in particular because much of what has been achieved<br />

was within the framework of collaboration.<br />

The National Treatment Agency for Substance Misuse<br />

was set up as a joint Home Office and Department of<br />

Health project to ensure that drugs treatment had the<br />

required priority in the NHS. Although the NTA was<br />

funded by the NHS, the Home Office had representation<br />

on its board because t<strong>here</strong> was clear acceptance that the<br />

Home Office had a key part to play. We knew that drug<br />

treatment was important in reducing crime. We wanted<br />

to ensure that those two parts, treatment and crime<br />

prevention, sat together. I think the NTA was an<br />

unprecedented success, and I pay tribute to the recently<br />

retired chief executive, Paul Hayes, who did an excellent<br />

job over many years.<br />

I saw at first hand how collaboration can work effectively<br />

when I visited a drugs treatment facility in Wakefield<br />

run by Turning Point. In one building t<strong>here</strong> were police

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