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277WH<br />
Drugs<br />
6 JUNE 2013<br />
Drugs<br />
278WH<br />
right to highlight. This is wrecking many countries. We<br />
did not look at the situation with heroin and marijuana,<br />
but the same damaging effects apply in different countries.<br />
President Santos has been taking a strong stance,<br />
saying that his country will try to control this problem;<br />
but we cannot expect countries to be torn apart for ever<br />
in an effort to control a problem that cannot be controlled.<br />
I am delighted that, in 2016, the <strong>United</strong> Nations General<br />
Assembly will have a special session to look again at its<br />
international drugs policy. I hope that, whatever flavour<br />
of Government we have then, we will be working with<br />
people like President Santos and with the reformers to<br />
try to solve this global problem.<br />
We have worked for 40 years with a criminalisation<br />
process that has not delivered what we said it should<br />
deliver in 1971. It has not worked for the users of drugs,<br />
for society at large or for the Treasury. T<strong>here</strong> are much<br />
better ways.<br />
2.20 pm<br />
Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab): I<br />
welcome you to the Chair, Mr Bayley. It is a pleasure to<br />
serve under your chairmanship. I apologise, but I have a<br />
very sore throat, so my voice is not quite as it should be.<br />
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cambridge<br />
(Dr Huppert). I will certainly look to his pronouncements<br />
in future for an indication of Liberal Democrat policy.<br />
I start by recognising that the report is an important<br />
piece of work. I pay tribute to the leadership of the<br />
Select Committee’s Chair, my right hon. Friend the<br />
Member for Leicester East (Keith Vaz). I also pay<br />
tribute to all the members of the Committee who<br />
contributed to the report, which draws upon the huge<br />
experience of different people and organisations. As we<br />
have heard, many different countries have been considered.<br />
I had an opportunity to listen to some of the witness<br />
sessions. I heard Sir Richard Branson and Russell Brand<br />
give evidence, and I attended the Committee’s one-day<br />
conference in <strong>Parliament</strong>. I think it was very useful to<br />
invite the general public in to hear the deliberations of<br />
that Committee.<br />
I visited Colombia after the Select Committee’s visit,<br />
and I know from my conversations with the Serious<br />
Organised Crime Agency officers based in Colombia<br />
that they were delighted to be able to explain the<br />
international role they play in addressing the drugs<br />
problem. They do some very important work, which I<br />
am pleased has been recognised in the report.<br />
The report is wide-ranging and contains many<br />
recommendations. Because of the time, I will go through<br />
some of the recommendations that I believe are key. I<br />
look to the Minister to answer some of my questions on<br />
the approach the Government will take to addressing<br />
the Committee’s recommendations.<br />
I start with the recommendation that the lead for<br />
drugs policy should be shared between the Home Office<br />
and the Department of Health, with a designated point<br />
person co-ordinating policy. That might seem an unlikely<br />
place to start, but I think it is absolutely essential that<br />
drugs policy is co-ordinated across Departments. I will<br />
address that theme in the points I raise this afternoon.<br />
The Opposition recognise the importance of a co-ordinated<br />
approach, and it is certainly important to recognise that<br />
t<strong>here</strong> has been a high level of cross-departmental work<br />
on drugs over the past 10 years.<br />
The Minister, although based in the Home Office, is<br />
responding on behalf of the Government, and I know<br />
he takes seriously his responsibilities on drugs. I question<br />
whether it should be necessary for two Departments to<br />
be involved with drugs, because the Minister is able<br />
today to discuss aspects of the drugs strategy that sit<br />
not only within the Home Office but within the Department<br />
of Education and other bodies, such as Public Health<br />
England and the NHS.<br />
That leads me to the report’s recommendation on the<br />
need to strengthen and open up the inter-ministerial<br />
group on drugs, which the Minister chairs. One of the<br />
recommendations is that the group’s minutes, agendas<br />
and attendance lists should be published. I have spent<br />
much of the past 18 months trying to get details of<br />
those minutes, agendas and attendance lists through<br />
parliamentary questions, and I have resorted to freedom<br />
of information requests. I have been continually thwarted<br />
by the Home Office, so I think that recommendation<br />
would help us to understand and appreciate what is<br />
happening across Government.<br />
We can see the importance of cross-Government<br />
working when we look at the record of achievement<br />
over the past 10 years on reducing the health harms of<br />
drug use, particularly heroin and crack cocaine use. All<br />
the key indicators are improving, and some of them<br />
have already been mentioned.<br />
The number of drug users is falling, particularly<br />
among the 16 to 24 age group, although, as the hon.<br />
Member for Cambridge highlighted, that may not give<br />
us a true picture if we take legal highs into account. The<br />
number of drug deaths has fallen even more sharply—more<br />
than halving between 2001 and 2011—partly because<br />
we have had much better access to treatment and because<br />
treatment is more successful. The average waiting time<br />
to access treatment was nine weeks in 2001; it was five<br />
days in 2011, and it is getting more effective. Only 27%<br />
of treatment programmes were successful in 2005, but<br />
the figure rose to 41% in 2011.<br />
Finally, and probably most importantly, more people<br />
are completing treatment. In 2005, 37,000 people dropped<br />
out of treatment before completion, w<strong>here</strong>as only 11,000<br />
completed it. By 2011, those figures had almost reversed:<br />
17,000 people dropped out of treatment, w<strong>here</strong>as nearly<br />
30,000 completed it. I am sure we could see further<br />
improvement, and I am not complacent at all, but we<br />
ought to recognise that t<strong>here</strong> has been huge improvement<br />
in treatment outcomes over the past 10 years. I say that<br />
in particular because much of what has been achieved<br />
was within the framework of collaboration.<br />
The National Treatment Agency for Substance Misuse<br />
was set up as a joint Home Office and Department of<br />
Health project to ensure that drugs treatment had the<br />
required priority in the NHS. Although the NTA was<br />
funded by the NHS, the Home Office had representation<br />
on its board because t<strong>here</strong> was clear acceptance that the<br />
Home Office had a key part to play. We knew that drug<br />
treatment was important in reducing crime. We wanted<br />
to ensure that those two parts, treatment and crime<br />
prevention, sat together. I think the NTA was an<br />
unprecedented success, and I pay tribute to the recently<br />
retired chief executive, Paul Hayes, who did an excellent<br />
job over many years.<br />
I saw at first hand how collaboration can work effectively<br />
when I visited a drugs treatment facility in Wakefield<br />
run by Turning Point. In one building t<strong>here</strong> were police