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This great interview took —place over the summe r
while I was in Philadelphia . I got to stay with
some anarchists living in a squat . Philly has
Sadistic Exploits who also say they re anarchists .op
The following is excerpts from the interview
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those Anarchy for Punks leaflets and we contribute
B: Since February 15, 1981 . One yea r and $months . to Savage Pink, put up posters . . . What the band' s
SB : Who writes the lyrics and music ?
'about is the major force of Anarchy that we're all
P: Well, that's a touchy question- everything goes contributing to .
down as being written by SE, you know, without
n B : But don't get us wrong, that being so tied up
causing any discredit .
in anarchy that we don't wanna have any fun .
B : It's a band thing, you know . we all contribut e I SB : How did you come up with the name Sadistic
ideas .
P : What it is basically is this : Bryan writes mos t
of the words and I write most of the music, bu t
it's just a reflection of everyone else's feeling s
anyway . He's just holding a pen, speaking on behal f
of the whole group, as well as vice-versa, and
everyone puts in their part to make the song a
whole .
SH : What are most of your lyrics about ?
B : Politics- not so much democracy .
B: More like personal gripes about things we feel
are wrong with society . Anti-racist, that kind o f
stuff . On the single, Freedom and Apathy, most o f
the song titles are self-descriptive .
B: We hit a broad spectrum .
P : They'll deal with either personal things or
deal with what's wrong with the system and how th e
system can be changed if we do this or that offe r
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B : I was watching TV one night long ago and there
was a show on called °Flops of 1980', about all
these shitty movies . One of the movies was about a
I guy that was trying to get in and rape Kate Jackson
and he punched the door and his hand came in and
he was beating the shit out of his hand . Then the y
cut off and said this movie was nothing but a Sadistic
Exploitati on of women . And I said that's th e
name. It's catchy .
SB : So you got it off of TV. That's really stupid
B : Still, to this day I dop't like it . It's to o
late to change it now.
B : Basically, what it is, the name, is a reflection
of the world around us . We're reflecting all
the bullshit in the world.
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a ernatives . The political side . Everyone knows
that politics is gonna run you right down into th e
ground and we have our feelings about that . So
whatever affects us, either personally or affect s
us as a whole, gets written about . A reflection
of society, you know .
SB: You say it's not democracy- alot of your songs
deal with anarchy (your logo, etc .)- How did all
of you become anarchists? Or is anarchy that important
to the band itself ?
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government wants to spend billions of dollars to
destroy us . . .
A: You can look at it that way or as a 'moneymaking'
name- Sadistic Exploits- it's catchy .
B: Well, that's not what it was meant to be .
P : It's sarcastic . It's not a description of us .
B : We're not sexist pigs out to exploit women .
SH: Well, what about the T-shirt you had on th e
other day- your old poster of the girl bent over
being beaten by the guy . What is that? Isn't that
P : That's what the band's about . exploitation of women ?
H : I think I brought the idea df anarchy into the P : That had nothing to do woth the group- that
band . Then as the band grew, we found out more and was something we had on a poster originally to catc h
more about anarchy, and it's what we all believe people's eye . To advertise a show .
in, even though we didn't realize that that's what SH : So it was just gimmickry, it really didn't .
it was . mean anything ?
P : All our lives we've been living this way but H : We got so much attention from the poster that
we never knew there were other people living on a we thought it may be a cool shirt that somebody
definite bonafide structured anarchist lifestyle : might like .
SB: Do you feel your music is a proponent for SH : So people reacted well to it ?
anarchy? Do you use it that way or is it more per- P : We got a lot of shit from the Women's League . 1
sonal? B : The first night we put up the posters this
P : It's an outlet for us, it's a medium with feminist lady went and ripped them all down and
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B : We didn't mean anything by it .
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B : But then every band does something in their
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SR: Back to the basic question : Are you all anarchists?
practicing anarchists ?
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sagr/ themselves . We're against the system . We live
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I believe we are .
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SR : Did you vote
ALL : NO .
SR : Good, don't encourage them . Who are your main
influences ?
P : Crass and Flipper (American) . Crass has influenced
us because of their philosophy to be yourself .
That's important if you're going to do anything
original . So they have to be the biggest influence .
R : I think our lyrics are more influenced than
our music . It's hard to say because even subconsciously
you may pick up off another band . My favorite
bands are Crass and Discharge . Best American
band is Crucial Truth . Crucial Truth was good Saturday
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B : Discharge', Crisis, and Siouxsie Of the American
bands- Bad Brains and Crucial Truth .
A : Bad Brains .
P : Bad Brains, yeah . . .
SR : Alot of people think you sound similar t o
Crass, and your last single's packaging even resembles
Crass singles . Is it "overinfluence" or
even copying them ?
P : As for the 45, we just believe in putting ou t
a good product al p the way around and if being
like Crass is giving out a good product- then i f
that's their criticism, tough shit .
A: We had alot to say and the only way to do, it ing. Because chances are you're not going to shi t
was to fold it up. °of what I'm singing . You probably didn't under-
P : I don't think our music is anything like Crass . stand of singing the other night .
Crass has slot of different players doing a lot o f
different things- we're pretty much stright ahead .
SP : R : S o Plus w e want people to get involved.
you' re trying to inform them, keep the m
educated? Keep them close to the band ?
H : That's it- keep them close to the band .
SR : What if someone thinks you're trying to shov e
your ideals down thier throats instead of enter-
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bute those? How often?
R : Ah, that's shit . If someone didn't wanna hear
B: Number 5 is in the making . what we were saying, they could walk away . That' s
P : We usually put one out with each show we play .
oa cheap cop-out for people- to think we're shovin g
To keep people up to date .
ideas down their throats . I f you don't like
SR : You pass them out to the audience?
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H : Yeah, and mail them out to our fans .
.don't listen .
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: Every few months, so people know what's going
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•what's going on and if they wanna listen, that' s
because lyrics are so important to what we're doing . .great. Because they care . The numbers
B : See we , want to keep in touch with the fan s .
will get
One thing we don't want to do os do a show, play ,
and then say, "We'll see you next time" .
B : We want people to understand what we're sing,
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We're pretty direct . I can't see us sounding lik e
Crass at all . We're just a 3 piece with vocals .
We're alot more direct . Nobody can be compared t o
Crass .
SR : About your leaflets- do you print and distri: .
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'SR : How many clubs are you banned from? I know
'you've had trouble with a few .
9 R : Most of the clubs in Philly .
P : Being banned is no great crucifixion for u s
'cause most of the clubs are money grubbers- yo u
can't get in- so what good are they? They They don' t
wanna understand .
B : There's too much of personal politics involve d
in those places to make it worthwhile . We even
offered to play for . free at the East Side Club .
R : There's a few halls, but even those are hard
to play at. We're not the most loved band in
Philly . Probably because we're anarchists, and
everyone thinks anarchy is trendy here .
SR : Do you think your latest logo Anarchy for
Freedom is kind of gimmicky ?
P : Anything that is the truth can't be a gimmick ,
you can't commercialize the truth .
R : Why is it a gimmick ?
SR : Well, compare regular music to music with politics
attached .
P : Well, this is against gimmicks, bullshit, lies ,
and selling, so it can't be a part of that if it' s
against all that . The logo is real simple so peopl e
can identify with it quickly . A description fo r
them, nothing more, nothing less .
R : That's like saying P .I .L.- does their logo mak e
them bad ?
SR : No, that's the name of the band . I'm referrin g
to attaching something to a band in order to sell
the band.
R : As a selling tactic ?
P : Its intent wasn't that in the first place .
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