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tc sep 2002 pdf - Doubleknot

tc sep 2002 pdf - Doubleknot

More brake system talk

More brake system talk This was sent in by Bob Helgeson back in Feb, however back then with all the other brake chat I was unable to fit it in the Newsletter. Finally, here it is; sorry for taking so long. If you would like a copy since this is on the back side of your renewal form let me know and I make arrangements to have a copy sent you. Jim Martoza Rod Schein, Just another thought on brakes that might be worthy of discussion. In March, 2002 (I know Feb just started but it is labeled March.) of Cars & Parts a reader reference an earlier article on brake failure/ problems. Has some different thoughts and solution. Question was: I own a XXX car that I used during the summer months for the last 10 years. When I take the car out in April it seem like I am always having brake problems. I have rebuilt over time the wheel cylinders and the master cylinder more then once. In short over 10 years I have repaired 12 wheel cylinders and three master cylinders with good rebuild kits. I noticed the wheel cylinders have surface rust and very small beads of water (size of pin head) and when I pulled back the rubber boots there is a brown sludge. Answer: The braking system on your car is not a closed system like the systems employed with disc brakes. The rubber boots on drum brakes cylinders do not keep moisture out of the fluid. DOT 3/4 fluids diphosphated esthers) are hygroscopic. That means that they aggressively seek moisture from the atmosphere. That degrades the fluids into sludge and causes the rust that you are seeing. The top of the system is also unsealed. This means that every time you activate your brakes a little bit of air enters the chamber over the fluid reservoir. It then tends to drop its moisture into the fluid. The result is that your fluid is constantly being degraded. You mention installing new seal kits in the master and wheel cylinders but you did not mention honing or sleeving those cylinders. If you do not address the issue of the cylinder surfaces, you will find that installing new seals only works for a very short time. You must either bore, hone, or sleeve the cylinders working surfaces until there is no evidence of pitting or scoring on them. The rust and sludge behind the boots indicate there is too much moisture where your car is stored. Assuming that you are storing it inside, put a 6-mill plastic sheet under your car to slow the ground moisture from reaching its underside. In your case (with heavy moisture area) I would definitely recommend converting to a DOT 5 fluid. DOT 5 (silicone) fluids are not perfect but they are a great improvement over DOT 3/4. They are not hygroscopic but quite the opposite. That creates a different problem. They tend to shed moisture to the lowest points in a system and cause rust there. They are not eternal. They should be purged through a brake system at least once every two years to prevent low point corrosion in die system. When converting from DOT 3/4 to DOT 5 fluid, I always preferred flushing the system with alcohol and not just using Dot 5 to purge DOT 3/4 out of the system. My thoughts: From the Car & Parts article even if you have Silicone fluid in you brake system you should purge the system every two years. It's still an open system. Like DOT 3/4 fluid in the brake system they recommend purging the system every year or two. So what do we gain? Well, As one other reader of Car and Parts wrote in and suggested: He found that putting plastic sheeting under the vehicles over the concrete slab precipitates puddles under the plastic and the water migrate to the edges. His solution is to put a box fan, in front of the car, constantly running at low speed blowing air across the garage floor under the car. He no longer has condensation problem and the occasional bout of mold on the old vinyl interiors Just another point of view. Bob Helgeson PDF created with FinePrint pdfFactory Pro trial version

Club Touring & Activities Information for 2002 TRIPLE XXX MEET There were 40 members present at the XXX Drive-in on Monday, August 26th. They were Bill Barker ('31 Sport Coupe), Walt & Sally Blair (Modern), Don & Lynn Boltz (Modern), Jerry, Mary & Scott Brownell (Modern), Don & Sally Comstock ('78 Corvette), Kerry Coons ('50 Pickup), Jim & Gail Darby (Modern), Tommy & Carolyn Frankhouser ('59 El Camino), George & Anna Marie Haley ('38 Coupe), Bob & Florence Helgeson ('51 Sport Coupe), Ron & Janie Kohl ('72 Blazer), George & Phyllis Kowats (Modern), Dale & Joan Krasser & Family ('61 Corvette), Tom & Sharon Lauderback ('56 210 Sedan), Wally Martin ('36 Sport Coupe), Dick & Fran Olson ('50 Convertible), Ralph & Judy Olson ('65 Malibu Conv.), Dave & Betty Roberts, & Family ('52 Pickup & '65 Impala SS Conv.), Jim & Sue Seiber ('40 Cabriolet), John Strampher ('63 Impala Sport Coupe), Ernie Tear (??), John Ziegler & Son ('46 Pickup). I hope that I didn't miss anyone or their car. The weather was near perfect, in the 70's, and everyone seemed to be having a great time. The early people won prizes for different categories. John Strampher Potluck at John Strampher’s There were 19 members and 11 guests present on Sunday, August 25th. Those present were Jerry, Mary & Scott Brownell (Modern), Lee & Carol Folsom (Modern), Tommy & Carolyn Frankhouser ('59 El Camino), Jake & Lila Jacobs (Modern), Tom & Sharon Lauderback ('56 210 Sedan), Wally & Judy Martin ('36 Master Sport Coupe), John Strampher and his mother, Edna Webster, George & Anita Warren ('63 Impala Convertible) Bill, Grace & Jennelle Wegener & friends ('38 Master Sport Sedan, & '68 Ford Mustang GT Sport Coupe) (yes, a Ford). Guests were Brad Austin ('22 Studebaker Opera Coupe), Jay Carter ('68 Impala Custom Coupe), Brad & Kyle Dunbar ('56 Dodge Custom Royal Sedan), Jim Lesniak ('41 Special DeLuxe Cabriolet), Scott Ostermeyer, his sister Shelly, and friend Jeff ('63 Chevy II Nova). The weather was kind of cloudy, but still comfortable for a good time and picnic. There was a very large assortment of food, to satisfy anybodies taste. People started showing up about 12:30 pm, and stayed until about 6 pm, which to me this means that everyone had a great time. I am game to do this event again! John Strampher September 2002 Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 October 2002 Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 November 2002 Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 A PREVIEW OF OUR OCTOBER OUTING Saturday, October 26th In October we will be headed north to Everett to visit a boat shop where they make rowing shells. Note that this will be a Saturday event. There will be a planned lunch stop on the way and if time, weather and interest permits we will make a stop at a pumpkin patch after the boat shop. November & December We are currently looking for ideas for November. Is anyone interested in hosting a potluck? Any other ideas are welcome. We are also looking for someone to host the Christmas party in December. Thanks - Tom and Sharon Lauderback December 2002 Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Sept 2002 TAPPET CLATTER 7 Sat PDF created with FinePrint pdfFactory Pro trial version

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