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THE PLANT COAT OF ARMS HEREBY ILLUSTRATED IS OFFICIALLY DOCUMEN I’ED IN BURK S 

GENER4L ARMORY THE ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION OF THE ARMS (SHTELD) IS AS FOLLOWS 

‘AR A LABEL IN BEND AZ IN CHIEF A ROSE GU ” 

WHEN TRANSLATED THE BLAZON ALSO DESCRIBES THE ORIGINAL COLORS OF THE PLAN1 

ARMS AS 

“SILVER, A BLUE LABEL PLACED DIAGONALLY IN UPPER THUtD A RED ROSE ” 

ABOVE THE SHIELD AND HELMET IS THE CREST WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS 

“A RED STAG WALKING ”

CONTENTS - JOURNAL 19 

Members of the Group 

Page 

1 

Members Interests 

5 

Introduction 

8 

Vrctona Pioneer Index File 1838-88 

Includmg addresses of Austrahan State Registry Offices 

10 

Errant Plantagenets and settled Plants 

18 

Palmers Index to the Trmes 1790-1905 

Case A 5’ September 1874 -Isaac Plant for 

Selhng bad hams - Sheffield 

Case B 18* March 1868 - Robert, Thomas and 

David Plant for horse stealing 

Tooting and Peokham 

Case C 17a’ December 1857 - Ann Plant for wll!zid 

murder of John Plant at Wolverhampton 

41 

Extracts from Durham Record Office compnsmg 

Calendar of pnsoners m Durham Jad 1861-71 

Mimng deaths m Great Bntam 1850-70 

43 

Miscellaneous extracts from Commercial Drrectones 

44 

Staffordshire Burlal Index - Teresa to Thomas 

46 

John Plant-Bury 

Football Club 

48 

Plant-related material in the PRO and Bntrsh Library 

50

MEMBERS OF THE GROUP 

No 

1 

10 

12 

13 

16 

1x 

20 

29 

Miss Lmda Lowrey 

Mr Colin W Plant 

Mr Michael Plant 

Mrs Pamela Plant 

Mrs Lois Webb 

Ms Helen Hdl 

MrsECReed 

Mr Peter Johnson 

Mr Anthony Dawd Plant 

Mrs Shwley Hughes 

222 Concession St Apt 406 Hamdton, Ontarlo L9A 1Bl 

Canada 

E-mad !&a lowrev@hwcn erg 

14 West Road, B\shops Sortford, Uerts CM23 3QP 

E-mad 101621 I~SI(iicompuservecom 

The Coach House, Monyash Road, Bakewell, Derbyslure, 

DE45 1FG 

London 

2X St Pauls Terrace, Hoddlesden, Darwen, Lanes 883 3NP 

Comer Cottage, Iv&say Bank Road, Bishops Wood, 

Staffs ST19 9AE 

3 1 Walton Gardens, Codsall, Wolverhampton WV8 I AH 

47 Thorn Road, Halton Lodge, Runcom, Cheshw 

WA7 SUJ 

53 Green Curve, Banstead, Surrey, SMI 1NS 

E-marl plant a d@ cwcom net 

14 Cnss Orove, Chalfont St Peter, Bucks SL9 9HG 

E-ma11 shrrlevhuahes(iihotail.com 

32 Mrs Catherme Sproston Dunge Farm, Over Aldwley, Cheshire 

33 Miss A1lee.n Plant 

37 MI Patmzk Pearson 

38 Mrs Sian Plant 

147 Mwxland Road, Woodsmoor, Stockpon Cheslwe 

SK2 7DP 

Vahublen, Bowl Comer, Barnsford, Stowmarket, 

Suffolk IP14 2LH 

E-mail 106110.3033@&xxnpus cam 

12 Dalmeny Road, New Bamet, Her&, ENS 1DE 

E-mad slatialants acrcamm(t net 

45 

47 

Mr Dawd Johnson 

Mrs Stella Robson 

PO Box 433, Buddma, Queensland, 4575, Au~traha 

Mdl Vwv, Great Whittington, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 

NE19 2HP 

51 Mr Gerald Plant 

52 Dr John S Plant 

59 Mr Nigel Burroughs 

65 Mr D J Plant 

6 Bells Hollow, Red Street, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffs 

ST5 7AJ 

Computer Centre, University of K&e, Staffs ST5 5BG 

E-mail J s plantf&?ele ac ok 

38 Gnmshaw Road, Peterborough PkI 4ET 

E-mad burroughs &&&at.com 

45 Pmgate Lane, Cheadle Hulme, Cheadle, Cheshire 

SK8 7LT

69 Mr Andrew Plant 

71 Mr G Bnan Plant 

74 Mrs Alice Doreen Mercer 

75 Mr M~cbael John Plant 

85 Mr John E Ran&y 

36 Second Street, Watbng Bungalows, Leadgate, 

Co Durham 

54 Bean Leach Drive, Offerton& Stockport, Cheshvc 

SK2 5Hz 

11 Rwer Street, Mmnamurra, New South Wales, 2532, 

Austraba 

Crown Hdl House, Worcester Road, New&am 

Wells, Wow. WR15 gJA 

E-mall wow Q&@&&XI corn 

18 Rosary Crescent, Highgate &II, Queensland, 4101 

Amtralta 

E-mad j.~!~&ranslev@~Iva go” au 

Bridge, Tenbury 

89 Mrs Denw Weston 

90 MrsMRLake 

95 Mm Linda S Wheeler 

98 Deanne Richards 

104 Mrs LIZ Plant 

108 Mrs St& Komfem 

110 Myrtle L Reid 

111 Mr Malt John Plant 

113 Mrs Heather Plant 

114 Mr bhn Rusrel Ingamelhs 

115 Mrs Pat Herring 

116 MISS Joan Plant 

119 Mrs Florence Plant 

121 Kathy Compagno 

122 Mrs Ebzabeth A Messer 

123 Dr Andrew Thomas Plant 

124 Mr Alan Plant 

73 DownsIde Close, Bladford Forum, Dorset DTI 1 7SP 

16 Westem Avenue, Febxtowe, Suffolk IPl 1 9SB 

E-mad m&d&?&~ol corn 

2210 Larkspur Drive, Alpme, CA 91901, IJ S A 

E-mail momkat@dash.net 

RMB 604A Donnybrook, 6237, Western Austraba 

12 Meadow Lane, Edenbudge, Kent TN8 6IlT 

65 Lawrence Avenue, New Matden, Surrey, KT3 5LZ 

RR2 H&burgh, Ontario, NOB 120, Canada 

38 Facthful Street, Benalla, Vlctona 3672, Austraba 

6 Peatmoss Street, Sunnybank Hills, Queensland, 4109. 

Australia 

E-mall mplanU&elstm.ea.symai~ corn au 

Room 41, Resthaven, 336 Kensmgton Road, Leabrook, 

Adelude, 5068, South Australia 

8 Stawer Close, Crewe, Cheshxe CWl 1GP 

12 Grenadw Street, N Woolvncl\ London El6 2LD 

PO 192, Nagambie, Victoria 3608, Austraba 

855 Bates Avenue, El Cerrito, CA 94530, U S A 

E-mail kcompagn&hotmail corn 

Bearsden, 9 Pinehurst Ave , Mudeford, Christchurch, 

Dorset, BH23 3NS 

E-mad bearsden95@9Olcom 

The Spinney, Htll Top, Beaulieu, Brockenburst, 

Hams, SO42 7YR 

1 Templar Terrace, Portbill, Newcastle, Staffs ST5 SPN 

2

125 

127 

131 

Mr Ronald George Plant 

Mr Wtlltam T Plant 

Mrs Jean watpote 

55 Avertll Road, Highfields, Stafford ST17 9Xx 

298 Newhampton Road West, Wolverhampton, 

West Mldlands WV6 ORS 

40 Fredenck Rd , Cheam, Surrey, SMl2HR 

E-mad hockev(iicableinet co uk 

132 Mtss Ltrtda Wdks 

138 MrsJeanDRay 

139 Mrs Judith Kwkby 

140 Mrs J Bateman 

41 Arnold St, Derby, DE22 3EW 

124 Lyth Htll Road, Bayston HdI, Shropshq SY3 OAT 

z-mall ,==w . dr=yCa Fe-d.; IC: 

53 Mersea Avenue, West Mersea, Colchester, Essex 

CO5 8JL 

52 George Fredertck Road, Sutton Coldfield, West wdlands 

B73 6TP 

B-mail tanbatemanhbreathemal net 

141 

143 

Mr Malcolm Revel1 

MISS Freda Lawrence 

22 Melton Road, North Fermby, East Yorkshue 1~14 3ET 

‘Brades’ Lower Penkndge Road, Acton Tmssell, Stafford 

ST17 ORJ 

E-mat freda lawrence&alk21 corn 

a 

145 Mr Graham Wingfield 

147 Mr John Ronald Plant 

151 MISS Tessa Pdsbury 

34 Hereford Road, Buxton, Derbyshxe 

49 Bourke Avenue, Yattaltmga, NSW 2251, Austraha 

17 Htll House, 75 High Street, Saffron Walden, 

Essex CBlO 1AA 

153 

Mrs Frances Plant 

80 Buxton Cres , Sutton, Surrey, SM3 9TT 

E-mad fvlant@btafoot corn 

154 Mrs Susan E Woods 

155 Mrs Betty Pyman 

156 Ms Chrtstine M Page 

158 Mrs Kerry-Ann Cooke 

159 Mrs Pat Galloway 

161 Mr Antony C H Famath 

162 Aloa Dereta 

50 Bethanga St, MtE1tz.a 3930, Victona, Australta 

E-mail stwwood~~zematl COM au 

Home Farm Cottage, Cluchelely, Newport Pagnell, 

Bucks MK16 9JE 

39 Amberton Avenue, Gwrawheen 6064, Western Austraha 

2 Vernal Close, Abbeymead, Glos GL4 5FW 

69 Vxtona Street, Wall Heath, Kmgswmford, 

West Midlands DY6 OLX 

5 Laurence Grove, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, 

West Midlands, WV6 9QN 

1130 S Orchard Drive, Boutttifol, Utah 84010-5026 USA 

E-mail deretaliilaros net 

l 

163 

164 

Mrs Joyce Barbara Thomas 

Evelyn M Pttts 

30 Brttten Drwe, Malvern, Worcs WR14 3IG 

525 Ctmarron Point, Okotoks, Alberta, Canada TOL lT5 

B-mail cv oita&advision corn 

3

165 Mrs Gdltan Jenkms 

166 Ms Margaret In&y 

167 Mrs M J Plant 

168 Mr Pbdip Plant 

169 Mrs Hazel M Morgan 

171 Mr Brad Scott 

172 Jtnuce Wtlson 

173 Mr John Riley 

42 Edgemont Road, Weston Favell, Northampton, NN3 3PQ 

E-mat1 JenkmsS@suoanct cotn 

86 High Street, Broadford, 3658 Vtctona, Australia 

204 Duakety Road, London SE9 4HP 

33 The Dawneya, Crudwell, W&s SNl6 9HE 

E-mat1 pplant@inil corn 

The Woodlands, 7 Rose Avenue, Alvcchurch, 

Nr Bitmtngham B48 7PG 

38 Stanford Avenue, Hassocks, West Sussex BN6 8JJ 

E-mad brad scott@Jw&dge co ok 

164 Ladies Mile, Ellerslie, Auk&land 1005, New Zealand 

E-mail ~wikon~xtmcom 

10 Wynbrcck Drive, Keyworth, Nothngham NG12 5FY 

E-mail John fidtamond co uk 

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MEMBERS INTERESTS 

1 MISS Linda Lowrey 

4 Mr Cohn w Plant 

6 Mr tichael Plant 

10 Mrs Pamela Plant 

12 Mrs LOIS Webb 

13 Ms Helen 1~11 

16 Mrs C Reed 

18 Mr Peter Jobnson 

20 Mr Dawd Plant 

29 Mrs Shvley Hughes 

32 Mrs Catherine Sproston 

33 MISS A&en Plant 

37 Mr Patnck Pearson 

38 Mrs Sian Plant 

e19c Macclesfield, Chesh&ml9c 

Hollingwood - Darwen Lanes/ 

19c N&b StaffordshIre/ 

Any penod South Staffs/North Worcsl 

e19c Stockport CheshueJ 

e19cMacclesfteld Cheshtre/ml9c 

Hollmgwood + Darwen Laws/ 

e19c AyrshwJml9o Rowley ReSw St&d 

L19c Cradley Staffs/ 

L18c e19c North Staffordshire/ 

L19c Manchester LancaQ9c Mid Chesbwe/ 

Pre. 19c Clowne Derby/l9c Doncaster Yorks/ 

19c Notts / 19c Cheltenham Glosl 

L17c + 18~ Rowley Regis Worcs/l9c Dudley 

WorwJLl9c Sydney Austraba/ 

Any Per& Cheslure/ 

17~ 18~ 19c Stockport Chesbre/ 

Any penod Stockport Cheshw.’ 

e19c Denton Lancs.09~ Lelcesterl 

20~ Rounds Northants/ 

45 Mr David Johnson 

41 Mrs S Robson 

51 Mr Gerald Plant 

52 Dr John S Plant 

59 Mr Nigel Burroughs 

65 MrD IPlant 

69 Mr Andrew Plant 

m19c Goostrey Cheshn/Ll9o e20c Salford 

IAncs/ 

19c SheffXd Yorksfel9c Clowne 

Derbyshire/ 

L18c 19c Burslem + Longton Staffs/ 

Any penad Cheadle Staffs/ 

MlXc + M19c Little Bowden and Market 

Harborough/l9c London 

71 

74 

Mr G Bnan Plant 

Mrs Ahce D Mercer 

Any penod Chesh& 

19c LewesteriLl9cNottingham/ 

5

15 Mr M J Plant 

85 Mr John E Pxansley 

89 Mrs Demse F Weston 

90 MrsMRLake 

95 Lmds Shields Wheeler 

98 Deanne Richards 

104 Mrs LIZ Plant 

108 Mrs Stella Kornfem 

110 Mrs My& Reid 

111 Mr Malt John Plant 

113 Mrs Heather Plant 

114 Mr John Russel Ingamellis 

115 Mrs Pat Herring 

116 MISS Joan Plant 

119 Mrs Florence Plant 

121 Kathy Compagno 

122 Ehzabeth Messer 

123 Dr Andrew Thomas Plant 

124 Mr Alan Plant 

125 Mr Ronald George Plant 

127 Mr Wdham T Plant 

131 Mrs Jean Walpole 

132 Miss Lmda Wdks 

138 Mrs Jean Ray 

139 Mrs Judith Kukby 

140 Mrs J Bateman 

141 Mr Malcolm Revel1 

e19c ShropshwYel9c Cheadle Huhne 

Chesh& 

18~ + 19c Staffordshire/ 

Any permd Fenton + Cheadle + Longton Staffs/ 

ml8c S~lffolW 

17~ Stafford/any penod Connectwt USA/ 

19c Eckmgton Derbyshwf 

17~ + 18~ + e19c Wolverhampton/ 

L19c Wisbech CambsIL19c Battersea London/ 

L19c + e2Oc Dark&on + Walsall + West 

Bromwch, Staffs/ 

Any penod Srbsey Lmcs/ 

L19c Hackney Mlddlesexi 

18cLmcsI 

e19c Ashley StaffsiL19c Wheelock Cheshire/ 

e19c Bnstol/ 

L19c Staffordshire/ 

19c West Bromwich +-Walsall, Staffs/ 

LlSc + e19c Bnerley HdI/ e 18~ Old Swmford 

L19c Cheadle StaffsI 

18~ + 19~ Northants/l9c Rutland/l9c Hants + 

Cambs&l9c + e2Oc Bedfordshe 

General Staffordshire/ 

e2Oc Rug&y StaffordshIre/ 

18~ + e19c NoTh StafTordshwe/ 

m19c Wolverhampton Staffordshtre/ 

L19c Camberwell, Surrey/ 

Any penod Potteries, StafTordshueI 

19c Sheffield 

Pre 1850 Macclesfield Ches/ 

Pre 1900 Staf%rdshue/Pre 1900 Worcestersh& 

18 + 19~ Burlsem + Longton + Stoke on Trent 

Staffs/ 

6

143 

145 

MISS Freda Lawrence 

Mr Graham Wtngfield 

18~ + 19c Staffordshw/ 

19c Lower + tigher Whltley + Lmle Leigh, 

Cheshtrel 

147 Mr John Ronald Plant 

151 MISS Tessa Pdsbury 

153 Mrs Frances Plant 

154 Mrs Susan E Woods 

155 Mrs Betty Pyman 

156 Mrs Christine Page 

157 Mr Nicholas Holmes 

158 Mrs Ken-y-Ann Cook 

159 Mrs Pat Galloway 

161 Mr Antony C H Famath 

162 Aloa Dereta 

163 Mrs Joyce Thomas 

164 Evelyn M Pitts 

Pre 1900 Stoke on Trent, Staffs/ 

18~ + 10~ Con&ton, Cheshire/ 

19c Leek St&s/ 

19c stat&/ 

e 20~ Gtuldford, Surrey/ 

m 19~ York, Yorksh&Army/ 

L 19~ London/ 

L 19~ West BromwchiBamsley, Yorkshire/ 

Any penod, ShropshircJ 

19~ 20~ Black Country, West Midlands/ 

Any Period pre 1860 Leek Staffs/ 

m 19, Sheffield, Yorks! 

m 18~ L19c Ldlishall, Staffs/ 

m 19~ L19c Nevqort, Shropshire 

L 19~ Barrow-in&mess, Laws/ 

m 19~ Cradley Heath, Staffsl 

e 

165 Mrs Gdhan Jenkms m 19~ Wolverhampton + West BromwclL Staffd 

166 Mrs Margaret In&y m 190 Hulme, Manchester, Lancsl 

L 19~ + 20~ Austraha (VI&aria)/ 

167 Mrs M J Plant 

Any period Market Harborough, Lmle BowdeR 

Great Bowden, Foxton, L&s/Sutton St Edmund, 

Halbeach, LincslBrighton Sussex/Haverhdl. 

Suffollk!Battersea, London! 

e 

168 Mr Philip Plant 

169 Mrs Hazel Morgan 

171 Mr Brad Scott 

172 Jamce Wdson 

173 Mr John R&y 

As for member 167 plus North Wdtsh& 

19c Meerbrook, Gnndon, Staffs/Ashboume, Derby/ 

pre m 19~ Pembroke Do& 

m 19~ Staf%ordshtre 

L18c + 19c Clowne Derbyshir&a&dl + 

Anston York.4 

7

INTRODUCTION 

Rrstly, let me welcome you all to the new Mdlenmum and wsh you ‘all the best’ for the New Year 

It 1s a sobering thought that at the last M~llenmum the Plant name did not even emst I wonder what the 

situatmn wdl be after another 100 years, never mind 1000 years I hope that there vnll stdl be ‘Plants’ lookmg 

for their ancestors and that perhaps the research that we have camed out, and are. contmumg to carry out, wdl 

be of assistance to them There is no doubt that the majority, If not all, wearch will be carried out usmg the 

mtemet or whatever IS the latest commumcat~on axd 8t that time County Record O&es and thw dk wll be 

store areas for the various ongmal documents deposIted and for the addmg of records on to a record access 

scheme I am not sure, even though it may be easier, that this ‘remote’ research wdl be as self -satlsfymg as 

lookmg through some ongmal records and findmg what you have been loolang for. We have all expenenwd 

that tbnll that you get when sometimes, unexpectedly, you find the answer to your ‘problem’ ancestor 

AddItionally I have found that m some way I have created an affimty wth some of these long lost ancestors 

and that they have been returned to the family. Looking at a screen IS not the same as ‘meetmg’ an ancestor m 

the onginal or even a microfdm of the Parish Regtster or a Census and havmg to decipher the handwnting of 

the incumbent or enumerator At least any mistakes are then yours and not somebody else’s who has, when 

adding informatmn into a computer, misread the onginal entry This problem has been bghhghted by the CD- 

ROM of the 1881 Census, whmh has numerous errors and must be read wth extreme cautton However, more 

ofthis later m my mtroductlon 

Returning to the celebratmn for the new Mdlenmum, the maJor national event m the UK was the opemng of the 

Dome at Greenwich attended by the Queen and the Pnme Mmister and various other dlgmtarles, inwtcd to 

attend as a tribute to thev actwitles m helpmg others 

For his work in the field of Amateur Operatic’s my brother, Brian, (a member of our Group) was mwted to 

attend along wth his wife, Brenda and chlidren Gillmn and Kevm You could say therefore that the Plants 

were represented at the opening of the new Mdlenmum 

Mavis and I had a less auspicuous celebratton attendmg one of our local vdlage halls for a dmner and dance. 

amongst friends and colleagues Whatever and however you celebrated I hope you enjoyed yourself and are 

now reFreshed for the challenges ahead 

The only new member of the last s1.x months is member No 173, Mr John R&y, who E-maded me m 

November requesttng mformation on the Plant name m Yorkshire, namely Harthdl and Anston and a posstble 

connectton m Clowne, DerbyshIre 

Now I dtdn’t have any mformatmn relatwe to the Yorkshire connection but the possible Clowne cormectmn 

was more mteresting as Dr John Plant, member No 52, has camed out constderable research m this area I 

therefore put them m touch and it appears that the article that Dr John prepared for Journal No 4 ‘Blacksmith 

Plants near Clowne’ relates dwectly to the ancestry of John Riley’s grandmother In exchange, John has 

forwarded lus mformatlon on Yorkshire Plants on to Dr John so that the connection between Derbysbtre and 

Yorkshre can be cemented 

This sort of help 1s one of the most pleasing aspects of the Plant Group - bnnging us together as a famdy as It 

were 

Towards the end of last year I purchased the 1881 British Census CD-ROM’s and a number of amcles have 

already been published m the Journal of One Name Studies and Famdy History r&we to the ments and 

demerits of this mformatlon It would appear that the mam problems have centred around mwpellmgs and 

variant definition of a name I have expenenced problems where, even though I know the entry exrsts, I have 

been unable to locate the entry due to thii misspelling problem If I hadn’t known that the entry was there 1 

would have given up and looked elsewhere I would add that my problems have been related to the name of 

Wright (my grandmother’s muden name) not Plant 

One mterestmg aspect that the Census has revealed is the number of unusual returns For example the 

following 1s recorded m the census for West Derby Lancashite 

8

Marr Age Sex Buthplace 

43 M Prestoll 

George Zavier SUGAR M 

Rel Head 

OCC Barrtster in Pmctlce 

Gertrude M SEGAR M 30 F Sunderland 

Rel Wife 

OCC 

The Famdy 

Lookmg At& Me and 

May G SEGAR 3 F Liverpool 

Rel Dam 

OCC Eatmg Sleepmg & Talkmg 

Robert S SEGAR 1 M Liverpool 

Rel Son 

OCC Eatmg & Gettmg mto Mischief 

Whilst we are talking about Census returns, two other pomts 

I was recently givmg .a lecture on Genealogy to one of our local Probus groups and was mterrupted, when I 

was dxussmg the Census retums, by a member in the audience who stated that they may be mterested m one 

of his experiences when acting as an enumerator for one of the recent 20* century censuses He called at this 

particular house, the lady of the house saying that she was having dlfficultms m completmg the form and 

would he help She was the head of the house, so no problem there, she entered Head But what was she gomg 

to write for the man who was living with her who wasn’t her husband After a while she said she had solved 

the problem and entered against tus name ‘ACTING HUSBAND’ What some future htstonan wdl make of 

that I know not 

The second pomt concerns the defimtmn of a 19’ Century enumerator which records the personal 

cbaractenstics that the GRO requued as ‘he must be a person of intelhgence and actlwty he must read and 

ante well, and have some knowledge of arithmeuc he must not be mfirm or of such weak health as may 

render him unable to undergo the requisite exertion he should not be younger than 18 years of age or older 

that 65 he most be temperate, orderly and respectable, and be such a person as 1s hkely to conduct hunself 

with stnct propriety and to deserve the goodwill ofthe inhabitants of district’ 

You wdl see that E-mad addresses have been added to the List ofMembers and I hope that this wdl encourage 

communicatmns between members 

Relative to my own Plant hne I must admit that over the last two years the amount of time that I have spent on 

research has been, to say the least, minimal This has been due to the fact that, v.& three others (mcludmg my 

wife Mavis), we have wntten and pubhshed a 325 page book on Chelford (See page 49) Sales are now 

running at over 700 and an artccle about the book appeared m the Mdlennium issue of the Cheshire Lxfe 

magazme The response has been so positive that we have been asked to wtlte Volume II that wdl, m adddlon, 

mclude some of the surroundmg vdlages It is therefore unlikely that I will have much spnre time m the next 

twelve months for the Plant family, though things may be different from September onwards when I retxe fmm 

full-time employment 

Please keep sendmg articles for the Journals and finally, once agam let me wish every member sm.cess m the 

New Year and let’s make the name of PLANT one to be respected 

Thanks for all your help and assistance 

9

VICTORIA PIONEER INDEX FILE 1838-88 

Informatton prowded by Margaret Insley Member No 166 

The fast recognised settlement of Melbourne, m the Colony of N S W LS dated 1837 Separation was 

proclaimed m 1851, when the Colony of Vxctona was gwen todependence from N S W The Vlctonan Pioneer 

Indexes 1837-1888 are compkd from both Government and Church records Buths, Mamages and Deaths of 

earher settlers, may be found in the N S W mdexes, if they were recorded

SPOUSE 

GWEN 

NAMPS 

R’mond

l 

PLANT 

PLANT 

uonlgamcly 

UarY 

12

K’mond 

FD

SPO”SE 

SURNAME 

SPOUSE 

GIVEN 

NAMP.S 

14

- 

EVENr AGE SPOUSF 

S”RNI\MF

WKP Note 

Some of the mformatlon on the above bst IS suspect due to a number of factors mcludmg some drfficultles m 

deciphenng dates and parttctdarly reg&ration numbers The shortenmg of place names didn’t help &her ‘The 

list must therefore be read with a degree of tolerance. Nevertheless I hope It may help some readers when 

researching Australian connections and thanks are due to Margaret Insley for forwarding the informatIon 

8 

Vwtorian records only show the first four letters of the towns With assistance from Margaret I have tned to 

list the wmplete name Some in fact were not towns m the strict sense, e g Blue Mount was only a gold 

mining reef between Newbury and Siions Reef and these two latter names are just collections of old mmmg 

houses restored Also these are not necessarily the place of birth, only the place of recordtog the event In 

Margaret’s case the baths recorded in Blue Mountams, were actually Little Hampton, some mdes away 

Reeistrv of Bnths. Deaths and Manages ’ Australia 

For the assistance of any member researching Austrahan records the followmg IS a hst of addresses for the 

vrmous state Registry of Bii, Deaths and Marriages Copies of certificates can be obtamed but as charges 

change from time to time I would suggest that a letter be forwarded requestmg the necessary forms and present 

PriCeS 

l&Q&a 

New South Wales 

Registry of Births, Deaths and Mamages 

Registry of Births, Deaths and Marnages 

PO Box4332 GPO Box 30 

Melbourne 3001 Sydney 2001 

Victoria, Australia 

New South Wales, Australia

Tasmama 

Registry ofBIrths, Deaths and Mamages 

GPO Box 198 

Hobart 

Tasmma 7001 

Australia 

South Austraha 

Registry of B&s, Deaths and Mamages 

GPO Box 1351 

Ad&de 

South Austmha 5001 

AUstrahFi 

Western Austmliq 

Reglstiy ofBuths, Deaths and Mamages 

PO Box 7720 

Cloisters Square 

Perth 6850 

Western Australia 

Northern Temtoly 

Registry ofBwths, Deaths and Mamages 

GPO Box 3021 

DmWlll 

Northern Temtory 

Austmba 

Oueensland 

Regtstry ofBuths, Deaths and Mamages 

Hathlyn House 

PO Box 188 

Albert St 

Brisbane 

Queensland 4002 

Australia 

Austmba C&al 

Terntory 

Regutry of Births, Deaths and Mamages 

PO Box 788 

Canberra 

ACT 2601 

Australia 

Journal No 17 included, m the arttclo ‘Emlgmnts to Australia’, the story of Wdbam and Mary Ann Plant 

(H~ggmson) of Manchester who left England m 1863 to settle in Austmlm A daughter, Theodocla, born m 

Austmba in 1865 was the Great Grandmother of Margaret Insley (member No 166) Theodock mamed a 

Wrlbam Henry Stones in 1886 and tbev famdy is shown on the photograph below The photograph was taken 

about 1903-l at Hefield in appsland and Margaret Insky’s Grandmother, Dow, 1s shown I&

Chapter 19 

Errant Plantagenets and settled Plants 

THE PLANTAGENET SURNAME AND SOME EARLY PROXIMITIES OF THE PLANTS 

he royal “Plantagenets” (so called) seemmgly had no need for a surname When they 

T 

first ascended the throne in 1154, however, they had close relatives who used Plantagenet 

as a surname. It seems that Initial such use of the Plantagenet surname was made by 

some of the descendants of the 1164 marriage of Isabel de Warenne to Henry II’s tllegtttmate 

half-brother, Hamelm Plantagenet (1130-1202) It was not until about a quarter of a 

mtllennmm later that the Lancastrian Plantagenets married back mto the royal hne 

The formative Pl(a/e)nte name IS in evidence by 1219. A subsequent east Cheshne 

homeland for the settled Plant surname evidently dates from around the times of the mid 

14th century. 

A consistent explanation of such developments can be constructed wtth the atd of a 

unifying theorem whtch couples early influences from the place name Plontone wtth ones of 

ongoing proxmnties of Plants to the Warren Plantagenets. Amongst various mterpretattons 

of Plant(agenet)-related names, it can be noted that there is a ‘life cycle’ offcrrile, chzld, 

and establisher meanings tightly linked to religious mterpretattons based onplenarty. Such 

meanmgs can be related to a medieval ethos of the errant knight m a courtly context m 

“Plantagenet times” 

19.1 Likely influences on the formative Plant name 

inen a pervasive “Plantagenet” influence m late medteval times and a range of 

possible mesnmgs for ‘Plant related’ names, the% may h’ave been a number of 

different strands of miluence giving rise to the formatrve Plant name Vartous 

theorems have been developed in preceding Chapters and most of these (vrz. theorems 

1, 2, and 3(c)) relate at least partly to a “Plantagenet influence”. 

Theorem 3(a) however considers various possible locative influences which may 

have led on to such forms as de kz PZuunt In particular, an early such mfluence IS 

attributable to the place name Plontone which evidently later became Plumpton 

On this basis, a parring of two general influences - one locative and and the other 

Plant(agenet)-related - can be considered. A partrcular coupling of such influences, 

whrch will be outlined below, evidently holds validity in two different contexts, vtz - 

. for the formative Plant name in the early 13th century south cast of England, 

and also, 

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for the settlement of the Plant name by the late 14th century m east Cheshire

CHAPTER 19 ERRANT PLANTAGENETS 

AND SETTLED PLANTS 

19.1.1 A more unified theorem for the early Plant name 

T 

he Pl(a/e)nt(e) name existed by 1219 A ‘component A’ of influence for Its formatron 

ran be consrdered to have been operatrve in SE England at that trme, 

as was drscussed m the preceding Chapter, m as much as the bye-name Plantan’ IS 

recorded in Suffolk by 1220 and thus can be considered to have been a corruptron of 

the place name Plontone An addrtronal ‘component B’ of influence can be related to 

evidence for an early proxrmity of the Pl(a/e)nte name to the Plantagenet surname 

of the Warren earls of Surrey. Thus - 

theorem 4: t&o maJor components of influence may have amalgamated Lo form the 

Plant surname, perhaps first m the early 13th century m south east England and 

then in mid 14th century east Cheshire, and thus may have promoted partrcular 

aspects of meaning - 

component A: the place name Plontone, in Sussex and Lancashire for example, 

might have had connotations Plente-Tun meaning ‘fertile enclosure’; and, 

component B: the Plantagenet surname of the Warren earls of Surrey, whose 

Illegitimate descent settled in east Cheshrre, may have had ‘chrvalrous 

knight’ connotations 

A pairing of the influences of ‘component A’ and ‘component B’ seems to be m 

evrdence further around the times of the inter-marriage (~1340) between 

l 

the NE Cheshrre de Stockport family, whose many lands had included Plumpton 

or Plontone (component A) m Lancashrre (c1240), and 

l the rllegitrmate descent of the Warren Plantagenets (component B) who are 

known to have settled m east Cheshire 

Component B of this theorem, in partrcular, 

wrll be considered later m thus Chapter 

19.1.2 Some likely implications for the early meaning of Plant 

T 

here may have been an amalgamation of the meanmgs of plenre and plante (theorem 

3(b)), for the place name Plontone as well as for ‘Plant related’ bye-names, 

leading to associatrons with the meamngs abundance, p&any, fetirle, establrsher, and 

clzild (cj Table 19.1). In particular, a combinatron of ‘estabhsher’ and ‘child’ mean 

mgs seems to be consistent with the heraldic Plant blazon, which can be interpreted 

to mean ‘illegrtrmate cadet line with a subsequent allegiance to the red rose’. Some 

possible background leading on to such a development of meaning can be outlined 

briefly as follows. 

Early ‘sole of foot’ and ‘bouture’ meanings of plant may have infused Celtrc lands 

- the ‘bouture’ meaning, in partmular, may have coupled to the old Irish meaning 

‘offspring’ of eland to produce the ‘chdd’ meaning of plant for the Welsh. The Wessex 

legend of Edgar Atheling or Edgar Childe is said to have led on to a meaning ‘princely 

young man’ for the English surname Child(e) and such sentiments may have flowed 

on into an ‘(illegrtimate noble) child’ meaning for the English surname Plant. 

It may be noted, in particular, that the eldest daughter of the earl of Pembroke, 

Maud Marshall, first wed a Bigod and then a Warren Plantagenet and thus lmks the 

surname Plantagenet directly to Maud’scfinnection 41th Monmouth?hire m the Welsh 

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Plantebene 

1199 

Plantefohe 

1209 

Planterose 

1230 

Plantegenet 

1266 

Plente 

1219 

hallowed 

plenarty 

wickedness 

plenarty 

‘8 __.- 

prayers 

plenarty 

horse-borne 

abundance 

-.- 

Plaunte 

1262 

prosperous 

founder 

establisher 

of wlckednes 

courtly 

establisher 

horse-borne 

establisher 

Langland 

cl370 

messianic 

cluld 

bastard 

child 

courtly 

child 

chllvalrous 

chdd 

Table 19.1: A tightly-linked pattern of con%stent meanmgs for a set of 4 Plant(agenet) 

related names yielding a set of plenarty, establisher, and ctuld meanings Plenarty means the 

office of benefice when filled. The ‘establisher’ and ‘child’ meanmgs seem to be associable 

with an ‘errant kmght’ 01 ‘crusading’ ethos 

borders Indeed, this lmks on to the name Plantyn of the next Bigod’s butler such 

that Plantyn can be taken to be a diminutive of the Plantagenet surname, suggesting 

a possible meaning ‘(illegitimate noble) child’ 

Such ‘cluld’ meanings can be developed into ‘establisher child’ meanmgs Table 

19 1 outhnes a set of meamngs ‘messlamc child’, ‘bastard chdd’, ‘love child’, and 

‘clnvalrous prmcehng’, which can be linked to ‘establisher’ meanings when a tradltlonal 

‘young man’ interpretation of ‘child’ is taken mto account The child meanings 

accordmgly link tightly to correspondmg ‘estabhshcr’ meanmgs, as m&cated m Table 

19.1, such as ‘fine establisher’, ‘wickedness establisher’, ‘courtly estabhsher’ and 

‘horse borne estabhsher’. 

It has been suggested by Reaney (1958)’ that the surname Plant IS a metonynuc 

for ‘one who plants’ and a fuller appreciation of this aspect of meaning can be achieved 

with the help of the MED’, which lists various mecheval meanings of the verb toplant, 

many of which can be said loosely to mean ‘to estabhsh’ Such meanmgs include - 

to instil1 (a virtue), to rmplant (the natural law), to Impart (the word of 

God), to establish (a colony), to settle (a people), to found (a religious house), 

to mstitute (a religron), to set (somethmg) down m writing, to insert (something) 

cn a treatise, to engage (in combat), to enter (battle), or to lay (a stege) 

For the Welsh, planta means ‘to beget children’, Implying a variant connotation ‘child 

establisher’ 

It can accordingly be seen qmte readily how a medieval concept of an ‘errant 

knight’ can be related to the Wessex tradition of a ‘chivalrous cluld’ wluch hnks to 

a meaning ‘horse borne establisher’ for Plantagenet. Compatible meanings can be 

associated with other ‘Plunt(agenet) related’ names. 

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CHAPTER I9 ERRANT PLANTAGENETS AND SETTLED PLANTS 

19.2 A likely ‘Plantagenet influence’ on Plant origins 

be name “Plantagenet” 1s associated with a royal dynasty of exceptional duration 

(1154-1485) though the “Plantagenet kings” themselves are generally 

consIdered to have not needed a surname It is, more particularly, some of 

their relatives who bore Plantagenet as”+ famdy name3 such that, for example, the 

name Plantagenet was evidently used as a surname around 1150-1280 by some of the 

family of the Warren earls of Surrey (Figures 19 1 and 19 2) and then (~1280-1370) 

by mosf of the famdy of the earls, then dukes, of Lancaster (Figure 19 4) 

3 

19.2.1 Early ‘Plants’ and the Warren Plantagenets 

A 

n ‘errant knight’ meaning can be associated with the fact that noble fanuhes 

and then entourages were generally more mobile than the settled peasantry For 

example, Figures 19 1 and 19.2 m&ate how the noble Planragenet descendants of 

IIamelin Plantagenet (1130-1202) had widespread family connections This can be 

compared with contemporary records for the Pl(a/e)ntc name - 

there were Warren Plantagenet farnrly connec- there were occmrences of 

tions to Norfolk (1154, 1160), Surrey (1162” Plente m Oxford/Kent 1219, 

72, 1225, 1240-4, 1305), Sussex (1202, 1229-31, Plente at York 1230, Plaunte 

1240) and Oxford/Kent (1247) - this family m Essex 1262, and Plente and 

also wielded influence elsewhere, and, 

Plauntes m Norfolk cl275 

The 13th century distribution of the formative Plant name can hence be considered 

to have been, in broad terms, close to an expectable mfluence from the contemporary 

surname Plantagenet. 

Moreover, a supposed influence of the Plantagenet name on other ‘Plant hke’ 

names can be considered m connection with adcht~onal evldencc Thus, for example, 

the Plantagenet Warren hnes carried the epithet ‘Planragenet of Norfolk’ for a child 

Ida (b ~1154) from around the beginnings of ‘Plantagenet times’ and this can be 

compared with a subsequent ‘similar’ name in Norfolk - 

A ‘Plant related’ name in Norfolk, cl200 - The name Plantebene occurs m Norfolk 

in 1199 and mterpretations of its meaning range from ‘gardener’ to ‘prosperous 

founder’ to ‘fine estabhsher’. A hypothetical variant spelling Plentebenc can 

be interpreted to mean ‘hallowed plenarty’, seemmgly implying a blessing of 

religious donation In connection with monastic -;*ctivities, for example, this 

would reinforce an interpretation of Plantebene as a ‘fine or prosperous founder’ 

with the OED4 listing a meaning of to plant as ‘to found, especially a colony, 

town, or religious estabhshment’ 

An evident variant spelling Plente of the formative Plant name occurs, seemmgly 

initially, in Kent and Oxford. This, also, can be compared with the known contemporary 

activities of the Warren Plantagenets:- 

First known Plentes, ~1220 - In 1219 (Chapter 18), Radulphus Plente appears as an 

auxiliary to the king, for the burbhote of Oxford and for the maintenance of 

the royal household (?presumably Woodstock) outside the town - the name 

PZente appears, that same year, also m Kent 

-- 

‘The infomntmn III Ftgures 19 1, 19 2, 19.4 and 19 5 IS taken from FamdySenrch Ancestral Fde whmh 

can currently be foundon tp web pagehttp: //www. familysearch.org/ 

40xford En&h Dtcttonary. 

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Flgulc 19.1: Descent of the PLANTAGENET 

‘Warren lmes’ and the “Plantagenet” Kmgs 

Fjiguce 19.2. PLANTAGENET 

“Warren Imes” and EAST CHESHIRE descent

CHAPTER J 9 EKRANT PLANTAGENETS AND SETTLED PLANTS 

Warren Plantagenets, cl229 - Hamelm’s son, Wrlham Plam~gerwr (Warren)‘. can 

be expected to have had connectrons with Oxford, m as much as there was a 

royal palace at Woodstock (near Oxford) from the 11th to the 1’7th ccnturres6 -- 

also, he was amongst other thmgs warden of the Cmque Ports m Kent (~1216) 

Records for other srmrlar names occyr around the same trme and these also can 

be related loosely to an mfluence from Wrlliam Plantagenet - 

Another ‘Plant related’ name, cl210 -The name Plantefolre occms m Leicestershire 

by 1209? and soon afterwards quite widely elsewhere In the hrstorrcal context 

of the mtroductron of Itinerant lustme, rt seems that this name can best be 

interpreted to mean an ‘establisher of wrckedness’ This is reinforced by a 

possible religious interpretation (Plentefohe) ‘wrckedness plenarty’ This name 

can be related to the influence of the Justiciar m a context conncctcd to Wrllram 

Plantagenet (Warren), as will be descrrbed more fully below 

A ‘Plant related’ name in the Welsh horders, cl230 - The name Planterme occus 

near the Welsh borders by 1230 and its possrble meanmg ‘courtly establisher’ 

can be reassessed in this context, grven the Welsh meanmg ‘chrld of plant, to 

give a possible meamng ‘courtly child’ As wrll be described below, Wrlham 

Plantagenet (Warren) 1s known to have had a connectron to Wales (Pembroke) 

and to the Welsh borders (Monmouthshire) by 1225 

19.2.2 The Welsh borders and more Plant-like names h Norfolk 

A 

key to understandmg the origms of ‘Plant(agenet) related’ names seems to relate 

to the role of the wife of Wrlham Plantagenet (Warren), who was Maud (Matilda) 

Marshal (Figure 19 2). She was the eldest daughter of Wrlbam the Marshall, earl of 

Pembroke (Figure 19.3) who had been appointed a co-Justrcrar of England m 11847 

and, immediately after kmg John’s arrival m England, became earl of Strigurl (Monmouthshne)* 

In 1225, Maud Marshall’s first husband Hugh le Bigod, earl of Norfolk drcd and she 

remarrred William Plantagenet (Warren), earl of Surrey The Strrgurl estate passed to 

Maud’s son, the next earl of Norfolk, Roger le Bigod, whose butler 1s known to have 

been called Roger Plantrn by 1254. The name Plant(r/y)a.,can be, compared wrth such 

drmmutrves as Hodgkin and Hopkin and thus then suggests a possrble mterpretatron 

‘rllegitrmate Plantagenet child’ Such an interpretation could perhaps be taken to 

‘The mm acttvittes of Wilham Plantagenet (Warren)(1166-1240). more generally around that time, can 

be summarised bnetly as follows He was 5th earl of Surrey (17.0240) and warden of the Cinque Pans 

(1214) (Elnabeth Hallam (1996) tbld, p 204) HIS famdy estates were confiscated m 1204, when Plulltp II of 

France seized the duchy. Willtam supported hts cousin, kmg John of England, agatnst the barons and acted 

as one of the kmg’s guarantors m 1215 for the kcepmg of the Magna Carta The followrng year however. 

Wdham supported Prince Louts, son of Phtlltp II of France, when he tned to wrest England from John, even 

so, after the king’s death later m that year of 1216, he declared hmxelf a loyal vassal of John’s Infant so” and 

successor, Henry III Wtlham Plantagenet’s lands were restored m 1221 

6Elizabeth Hallam (1996) The Plontagerref Encyclopedra, p 212 

‘In 1199, William the Marshall was charged wtth a commtsston as regent for the new lung John to matntam 

order in England along wtth the archbrshop, Hubert Walter, who mtroduccd the keepmg of legal records 

III the Chancery Rolls 

YWdlmm the Marshall had earher razewed mcome from Stngud (Chcpstoyw) near the mouth of tQe rwcr 

Wyc ‘in Mdnmouthshwz, at the southern extremity ofnche W&h borders 

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* 

Flgure 19 3: Descent of the Monmouthshlre Stngul estate (cf PLANTELAND) through 

Maud Marshall to the Bigods despite her remamage to W&am PLANTAGENET (WAR- 

REN) 

Figure 19.4: Some pre-1350 Lancastrian PLANTAGENET 

records 

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Flgure 19.5: Some other pre- I350 PLANTAGENET 

records 

2s 

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CHAPTER 19. ERRANT PLANTAGENETS 


imply a bastard of Bigod’s half-brother John Plantagenet (de Warcnne) (b 1231) oi of 

de Warenne’s sister Isabel (b 1229) (F i g ure 19.2), or descent from earher Plantagenet 

relatives such as Ida (b c1154), Adela (b 1162), Maud (b 1163), or Margaret (b 1170) 

(Figure 19 I). 

Evidence for ‘Plant like’ names in Norfolk has already been mentioned m connection 

with Ida Plantagenet (b ~1154) and#Ralph Plantebene (1199) and this contmuas 

on with further ‘Plant hke names m Norfolk.- 

Plant-like names in Norfolk, cl255 -William Plantagenet (Warren) married the widowed 

mother of Roger le Bigod, earl of Norfolk whose butler and serpent, Roger 

Pfanfyn (Norfolk 1254-8) was granted the lands of Wllham le May of Causton 

(Norfolk 1258) - Cawston was 15 miles SW of the Plantagenet (Warenne) 

manor of Gimmingham 

Plant-like names in Norfolk, cl275 - The names Wilham Plaunres and William Pleme 

are known to have coexisted m Norfolk around 1275 with, for example, William 

Plente of Ormesby and then his widow Gerbegla owning land between 1272 and 

1284 at Hemesby - Ormesby and Hemesby are 15 miles SE along the Norfolk 

coast from the Plantagenet (Warenne) manor of Gimmingham 

19.2.3 Late 13th century developments for the Plantagenet name 

W 

llham Plantagenet’s son, John Plantagenet (de Warenne) (1231-1305), was 6th 

earl of Surrey (1240-1304)‘, styled earl of Sussex (1282)“, custodian of the shires 

north of the Trent (1295), and warden of Scotland (12967)” 1-1~ evidently retained 

Warren lands m Norfolk 

From around those times onwards however, the Warren earls appear to have 

dropped Plantagenet as a surname and, evrdently around the same time, this surname 

appears to have been taken over by their rather distant relatives, the Lancastrians, 

who evidently also had family links to Monmouthshire 

The prrmary family association of the Lancastrian Plantagenets was evidently 

with Monmouthshire, albert some 20 miles upstream from Strigul (r.e Chepstowe) 

which had been associated with the de Warenne John Plantagenet’s mother Maud (d 

1248). Thomas Plantagenet, 2nd earl of Lancaster (129%1322), was born cl278 m 

Monmouthshire, as were also his Plantagenet siblmgs Henry (1281), John (1286), and 

Mary (c1288), as well as his Plantagenet nephews and’nieces Henry (c1300), Isabel 

(c1308), and later Eleanor (c1311/22) (Figure 19.4). 

Subsequently, the Lancastrian, Joan Plantagenet, was born m Norfolk ~1310’~ 

‘After his father’s 1240 death, John became a ward of Henry III and supported the kmg agamst the 

rebelhous barons m 1’258 Though John aided the barons from about 1260 to 1263, he reJOIned Henry and 

fought for bun at Lewes tn May 1264 at which battle the ktng was captured. John Plantagenet fled to France 

However he returned to England wrth the future Edward 1 m 1265, and freed Henry III at the battle of 

Evesham 

“In 1282 John Plantagenet assumed the tltlc of earl of Sussex but his claim was uncertam. 

“John Plantagenet (de Warenne)Jomed Edward I’s mvaston of Scotland tn 1296 He took Dunbar castle 

to Apnl that yea and became warden of Scotland tn August On 11 September 1297 hts troops were rooted 

by Wtlbam Wallace at Sttrltng Bridge, but the following year he helped Edward defeat Wallace at Fnlkwk 

‘ZAlso 9 to 13129 

Edward I’s son Thomas ‘of Brotherton’ became earl of Norfolk, m the place of the Blgods. 

and the recorded eptthet ‘Plantagenet of Norfolk’ for his chddren (b ~1320-4) (Rgure 195) provides further 

ewdence of an ongomg assoc,at,on of the Plantage?et “a~” w\th Norfolk 

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1282 Hawaiden IS the locatron of the first known record for a Plant near the 

north west of England - this 1s a 1301 record for a Richard Plant of Eweloe 

Planteland in the southern Welsh borders - There 1s a 1310 reference to the manor 

of la PZanteland’4 in Monmouthshire, m connectron with Struguyl castle whrch 

had been associated wrth the wife Maud (d 1248) of Wriham Plantagenet (Warren), 

though thus is followed by a 1311 reference there to Plateland1s 

There 1s hence evidence to support a contentron that rt could have been the 

Plantagenet surname of the Warren Plantagenets that Influenced the formatron of 

‘Plant like names There is also scant evidence to support a contention of ongomg 

lmks to the subsequent Plant clusters in south Lincolnshire and east Cheshire, as wrll 

be outlined below. 

The subsequent ‘south Lincolnshire cluster’ for the Plant name appears to be 

in evidence by 1344. This was Just across The Wash from the Warren Plantagenet 

hundreds of Brothercross and Gallow, in north Norfolk. A Plant was evidently in 

dispute with the Lancastrran affimty, here in north Norfolk, by 1352 

Possibly the first evidence of a subsequent ‘east Cheshire homeland’ for the Plants 

occurs also in 1344 Such evidence 1s compared in some detail below wrth such facts 

as.- 

* the Warren Plantagenet line had acquned the High Peak, adJoining east Cheshue, 

by 1310; and, 

. there was a Warren family connection to east Cheshire itself by around 1340 

e 

Prom around those times, the national rmportance of the Warren Plantagenet 

affinity seemingly declined and the Warrens, like the Plants, became more sectled 

in east Cheshire. The High Peak passed into Lancastrian hands m 1372, by when 

the Warren descent was illegitimate and Its affinity had seemingly begun a shifting 

allegiance towards the Lancastrian affimty. The Warrens still retained an assocration 

with Norfolk by as late as 1386 

19.3.2 Warren, the High Peak, and the feud with Lancaster 

J 

ohn Plantagenet’s son, William de Warenne (~1260~86., had died before hrs father 

and it was John’s grandson, John Warren (1286-1347), who had become the 7th earl 

of Surrey (130447) and was also styled earl of Sussex (1304). HIS failure to produce 

heirs by his wife and hi feud with the Lancastrian Plantagenets, to whom his sister’s 

family the Arundels became alhed l6 , fore-shadowed an apparent lastmg decline in the 

%I the callendar of Patent Rolls there IS 1310 Oct. 10. Carruyle. Commrrsron fo John op Aoim, Master 

John Mane1 and John de Pateshulle to enqtwe .. ; also to report on any defects in the castles of Struguyl and 

Turegimdtnonors ofla Planteland, Tuden1ram amiBerton, the weic nndthefenctng of the park, what 

men Hugh le Despenser hodplaced on the works of the castle and manors, and what the works were 

“Also m the CXlendx of Patent Rolls there is 1311 March 7. Ben&k-on-Tweed Cornmrssron fo John 

op Adam, Walter de Gloucester and Mdes de Rodeberure to vtew the kmg’s castles of Struguyl and Torrogy, 

111s manors of Plateland, Todenhom and Berton. and thefencrng of hisparks m the lwnorof Stuguyl 

‘%I 1305, John Warren’s sister Ahcc de Warennc had married Edmund earl of Arundel at a time when noone 

could have known that John would die wthout leg&unatc heirs It has been contended that the associated 

dxsinhentancc would not have happened, however, if the Anmdcls had not exerte$ the strong:st pa/Slcal 

pressure \o prevent Warren ft0m settling the estate o&hls bastard sons (G A Holmes (1957) The ettate~ ofthe 

Higher Nob&y an 14th century England. p 7). 

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Influence of the Warren Plantagenets Thts may have had lasttng unpltcattons for the 

subsequent dx%rtbutlon of the Plant surname, JS both tt and the tllegtmated Warren 

afl?ntnty became more settled tn east Cheshire, though It can not be entvely ruled out 

that there may have been (as yet unknown) Plants in east Cheshire as early as before 

the earl of Surrey, John Warren’s acqui;iltton of the adjoinmg High Peak m 1310 

In 1310, the young earl of Surrey, John Watrent7 Joined Edward II’s tnvaston of 

Scotland and, that same year, Edward II gave Warren ‘the castle and honour of High 

Peak, for lrfe, together with the approvement of Its wastes, wrth rts kmghts’ fees, ndvowsons. 

wardships. and other appurtenances, to hold as fully as Wrlham Peverel, sometune 

Lord thereox %ad held the same, but sublect to a yearly payment to the Exchequer of 

X437 6s 8d”* 

In 1312, with other barons, Warren rebelled against Edward’s extravagance and 

misgovernment and took the kmg’s favourite Rers Gaveston prisoner a& Knnresborough, 

though the kmg pardoned lnm in 1313 Followmg Warren’s halson with Maud 

de Nerford and his claim, m May 1313, to have obtained a Papal Bull for a Divorce 

from the kmg’s niece Joan, the kmg appears to have responded vigorously and, m 

February 1314, he Issued the followmg from Canterbury ‘To the sherlffof Derby. Order 

to take mto the King’s hands, without delay, the castle< town, and manor of the High Peak, 

and the forest of the same lately commrtted to John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, arresrmg 

any person who sha resist the execution of t/us orde,: takmg with bun for this purpose a 

sufjic~entforce.“9 

It may be that the roots of Warren’s subsequent feud with the earl of Lancaster, 

Thomas Plantagenet, may he m Lancaster’s presence at the councd which urged, 

probably in 1316, the Bishop of Chichester, John Langton to prosecute Warenne for 

his halson with Maud de Nelrford (Figure 19 2) with whom Warren had attempted to 

divorce his wife, the king’s mete doan of Bar Certamly by 1317, the feud was firmly 

established when John Warren helped Ahce Lacy, the wife of Thomas Plantagenet of 

Lancaster (~127%1321/2) (Figure 19 4), to elope with her lover 

Thomas Plantagenet selaed mu& of John Warren’s land between 1317 and 1319 

Around 1316-8, the people of Bromfield and Yale m NE Wales wrote to their lord, John 

Warren, to tell him that they had been threatened by Thomas, call of Lancaster, who 

had written to them to say that he would have their land by one means 01 anotherzO 

The chromcles of St Werburgh’s, Chester, record ‘the devastation of all of Warren’s 

lands north of the Trent at tlus time” and, at Wakefield, Warren’s mistress Maud de 

17F Royston Frurbank (1907) The last ear1 of Wareme and Surrey, 7ZOrksblre’Archeologmal journal. Vol 

XIX, pps 193-4, 197-206 The last Plantagenet earl of Surrey, John Warren, was a posthumous chdd and 

was made n ward of Edward I whose granddaughter. Joan de Bar, he marrzd when she was 10 and he 19 III 

1306. As late as 1309, John Warren was apparently part of Thomas Plantagenet of Lancaster’s retinue at the 

Dunstable tournament to which he had apparently been drawn, wth hts brother-m-law Amndel, by Lancaster 

with a view to opposmg the king over the Gaveston affair at the forthcommg Parhament (JR Maddxott 

(1970) Thomas oflnncoster, ~56) Gaveston was afterwards executed, but John was reconcded with Edward 

II, who pardotted hrm m 13 I3 In 1316, Warren was excommumcated by Pope John XXII for adultery 

“F Royston Fairbank (1907) IbId, p 195. Ca Pat.Rolls 1307.13, p 283. 

% Royston Fanbank (1907) dxd, p199 Cal Close Rolls 1313.18, p 38 

“J R.Mad&cott (1970) Thomas of Lancaster 1307.22, p 220. Warren forwarded a copy of theu petItIon 

to the kmg, askmg for speedy help from the JUS~KX?S and the Kmg’s men m those parts, for the defense of his 

lands and the Kmg’s honour Warren was told to go to Bromfield to defend lus own lands If he wshcd whde 

Lancaster was ordered to refram from breakrng the peace m that region 

“On 3rd November 1317, the kmg ordered Thomas Plantagenet, earl of Lanczter, to stop attackmg Warren’s 

Yorksixre castles 

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CHAPTER 19 ERRANT PLAN’LAGENEIS 

kRrD SETTLED PLANTS 

Nenford was amongst those elected from then lands by LancasterZZ Thomas, earl of 

Lancaster also seized Warren’s Norfolk lands, comprrsmg the manors of Grmmmgham, 

Methwold, and Thetford as well as the Hundreds of Gallow and Brothercrossz3 

In 1322, Thomas Plantagenet of Lancaster was defeated by John Warren and the 

king at a battle near Burton-on-Trent ,The last ‘Plantagenet’ earl of Surrey, John 

Warren, thereby regamed some of hrs lands, recovering the rest m 132624, though only 

for the duration of hrs hfe (d 1347). 

19.3.3 Plentes during Warren’s dispute with arbitrary rule 

C 

omciding with a restive period (1341-3) of dispute between Warren and the king, 

there are various records of Plentes participating in disputes such as in 1342 when 

Walter Plente, in the company of the mayor of Exeter, attracted the complamt of a 

Flander’s merchant (Table 19.2). In February 1343 John Plente, as vicar of the Cathedral 

church of Chichester, participated in impeding the bishop of Chichester from 

carrying out the king’s ordersz By 1344 however, a Nicholas Plente was amongst 

many who were ‘pardoned’ by the king ‘for good service’ 

Some background to this dispute can be outlmed as follows The first phase of the 

so-called ‘Hundred Years War’ with France took place around 1339-60 and, for want 

of money, Edward III had been compelled to call a Parliament When the archbrshop 

was prevented, m the name of the king, from taking his place in Parhamentz6, the 

aging earl of Surrey, John Warren, complained and he was supported by his nephew, 

Richard of Arundel. Eventually the archbrshop was admitted but the matter had 

stirred considerable unrest and a Parhamentary commrttee was appointed to look 

mto the case The effective outcome was that the kmg, rather than the archbishop, 

was Judged by Parliament in a manner evocative of Magna Carta It was not untrl 

two years later that the next Parliament was called - -- this was m April 1343 when 

the papers of enqmry were destroyed, at the kmg’s command, as untrue and contrary 

to reason. 

19.3.4 A possible Plant link between S Lincolnshire and E Cheshire 

The first known evidence (so far) for a NW Plant can be taken to be the 1301 

record for Richard Plant of Eweloe, near the Bromfield and Yale terrrtory of 

John Plantagenet (de Warenne), earl of Surrey It migh$‘then be-considered whether 

the name Blount was sufficrently srmilar to Plont for consrdering that the known 

connection, by 1315, of the ‘Blount name’ between Chester and Addlington could be 

regarded as providing a phonetic link for the ‘Plant name’ between its occurrences in 

Eweloe and east Cheshire. 

=J.R Maddicott (1970) Thomas of Jawaster 1307-22. ~232-7 

“SIrnon Walker (1990) The Loncasrtin Ajiirfy 1361.1399, pps 184-5 

“In 1326. John supported Edward II dwmg his wfe Isabella’s mvaston of England After Edward’s forced 

abdmt~on III 1327 John made hts peace with Isabella 

xThe bishop of ChIchester (1337-62) was Robert Stratford who was the brother of John Stratford, archbishop 

of Canterbury (1333-48). 

260n Thursday 26 Apnl1341, the ArchbIshop of Canterbury, John Stratford entered the Painted Chamber 

wttb hts brother Robert Stratford, &hop of Chichester and nephew Ralph Stratford, btshop of London On 

tbc following day however, the archbIshop refused to go to the. Exchequer and he was prevented, III the name 

of the km& from takmg hn place lo Parhament. Mtcbael Pa&e (1983) King EdwardIll, pps 102.3. 

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CHAPTER 19 ERRANT PLAN7AGENETS AND SETTLED PLANTS 

)unng the imtial phase (1339-60) of the so-ctiled ‘Hundred Yeats War’ with France, 

here are various records for the Plente name, mainly along the southern and eastern 

toasts of England:- 

,I 

l 1342 Walter Plente of Exeter was subJected to a commission of oyer and terminer 

on complamt that he had, wrth others mcluding the mayor of Exeter 

Henry de Hugheton, carried away the goods of a Flanders merchant’. 

l In Feb. 1343, John Plente, vicar of Holy Trmny, Chichester was amongst 26 

named ecclesiastics who, together with 67 other named and an unspecified 

number unnamed, impeded the bishop of Chichester m carrymg out an order of 

the lung ‘to make and cause to be made in the churches of the city of Chichester 

and throughout the diocese masses, processrons and prayersfor the Jafety and 

success of him (the kmg) and hrs army’b 

a- 

l 

Also m 1343, a John Plente was amongst 9 wrtnesses on a deed at Theydene 

Boys for land of the rector of the church of St Bartholomew, London

CHAPTER 19 ERRANT PLANTAGENETS AND SETTLED PLANTS 

I 

1344 May 2. Westminster. - Ixence for the ahenatton m mortmam to the poor and 

convent of Bolyngton, m satlsfactlon of 18s of the 40 marks yearly of land which they 

had the licence of Edward II to acqmre, ... (1st Item’) . by John son of Alan Plant of 

Burgh, of a mcssuage m the same town and . . (3rd ltem6) .._ etc ’ (Patent Rolls) 

‘This reads by &chard Grannach of Burgh by Wayntleet. of a messuage and 4 acres of land ,o Burgh 

“Thts reads. by William de la Chaumbre of Bolyngton and John Cast&x of Kyme. of a mcssuage 

and 5 dcres of land m Bolyngton. 

eTbts reads.. These are of the value of 9s Gd yearly, as appears by mqutsmon taken by Saler de 

Rocheford, escheator m the county of Lmcoln 

Table 19.3: The first known record for the south Lmcolnshtre Plant cluster 

-. 

Three Different Rollingtons - John Bartholomew0 hsts three different Bolhngtons and a 

Bollington Cross There 1s a Bolhngton in mid north Cheshue, near the river Bolhn, 3m SW 

of Altnncham, also, Bolhngton, east Cheshire, 2 5 moles NE of Macclesfeld, also, Bolhngton 

Cross, east Cheshire, 1 3 mdes SW of this Bolhngton; and also, Bollmgton, west Essex, 4 miles 

N of Bishop’s Stottford 

It may hence be consIdered whether Bolyngton Pnoty menttoned m the 1344 record of a John 

Plant mtght relate to any of these known Bollmgtons. The Vtctona County Htstory for Essex 

menttons no prtoty at Bollmgton, Essex Bollmgton m mid north Cheshue, however, Is 

near Bowdon and Dunham Massey (Ftgure 19.7) and, though the Vtctorta County Htstoryb for 

Cheshire comments on the uncettamttes surroundmg the foundation of Btrkenhead Prtoty, tt 

notes thts Pnory’s strong connecttons to Bowdon and the adJoinIng NE Cheshtre barontal seat 

of Dunham Massey - 

c 

‘f/ze tradrtional dare (for the foundation of the prtory of St Jatnes the Great at 

Birkenhead) IS 1150 but there IS no documentary evldence that the priory emted 

before the second half of the rergn of Henry II The nature of the pnory’s endow 

ment suggests that a member of the Massey famrly of Dunham founded tt, probably 

the second Hatnon de Massey who dred in 1185 Most of the lands and churches 

held by the priory at us dmsolutlon had been part of the Massey fee m the 11th 

century and probably formed the ongrnal 12th~century c-Zdowtnen’t Ifalfof tire 

manor (of Bowdon) was probably held by the house from Its founaimon and, tn 

the early 127Os, the pnor clamed that n predecessor at the beginnmg of the 13th 

century had presented to the church (though the dispute was settled m favour of 

the Massey famtly) . in 1278 theffth Hamorz de Masey granted the advowson, 

together with a small holdrng of land at Dunham. to the priory, WI retwn he and 

hts ancestors and hem were admmed to all the benefits of the house 

aJohn Bartholomew (1943) The Survey Gazetteer of the Bnhsh Isles 

%toria County HIstory for Cheshtre (1980) Vol 3, pps 128-31 

Table 19.4: Three different Bollingtons and a connectton of one to Dunham Massey 

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l 

Figure 19.7. The royal park and stud of Macclesfield, the Warren Plantagenet seat of Stockport, 

and the baronial seat of Dunham Massey wtth its adjacent rehglous outpost at Bowdon 

of Birkenhead Priory (After D Sylvester and G Nulty (1958) The Hwtormd Atlas of 

Ci&we, p 2.5 ) 

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Apart from this posslbihty mvolvmg the ‘phonetically simllac’ name Blount (subtheorem 

3(c)), the first known evidence (so far) however for apossrblePlantconnnectton 

wrth east Cheshire can be taken to be a 1344 record for John son of Alan Plant of 

Burgh. 

This 1344 record I$ the first one known for the subsequent ‘south Lmcolnshuc 

Plant cluster’ (Table 19 3) and rt refers to a license for John Plant to hand over to 

the ‘pryor and convent of Bolyngton’ a messuage at Burgh le Marsh by Wamfleet The 

‘pryor and convent of Bolyngton’ mentroned in thus record may perhaps refer to the 

Bollington near Bowdon (mid north Cheshrre) whose church was approprrated to the 

Benedmtme Priory of St James, Birkenhead and which also had strong links to the 

adjoining Baronial seat of Dunham Massey Such an Identity for Bofyngton pnor and 

convent is suggested by the evidence which is outlined further m Table 19 4 If thus 

association of Bolyngton Priory wrth mid north Cheshire is correct, rt could be taken 

to be evidence for an early link of the Plant name between south Lmcolnshrre and 

NE Cheshire (~5 Frgme 19 7). 

19.3.5 Changing fortunes and the Black Death 

S 

rr Edward de Warren was a bastard son of the last Warren earl of Surrey, John 

Warren, and his mistress Maud de Nerrford (Frgure 19 2) Around 1340, he marrred 

into a NE Cheshire gentry famrly27 

In 1345, the 3rd earl of Lancaster (1324-45) died and hrs daughter Eleanor Plantagenet 

(b c1311/22) married John Warren’s nephew, Richard earl of Arundel (Frgure 

19.2) Eleanor’s brother, the subsequent 4th earl (1347-51) and 1st duke (1351-61) 

of Lancaster, was able to make good his reversionary claim on John Warren’s lands 

when Warren died m 1347, with lands also going to Arundel, who thereby received 

almost a doubling of the Arundel estat@ 

The Black Death (1348-9 and some subsequent years) seemingly came after the 

marriage (~1340) of Srr Edward de Warren into the NE Cheshire de Stockport family 

and the aforementroned possible hnks of the Plant name to east Cheshire. The 

Black Death may have been relevant to the conditions under which the Warren affinity 

were beginning their settlement in NE Cheshire. It may also have impacted on 

their family traditions related to the herem supposed (I$ theorem 4) symbohc meanmgs 

of ‘Plant(agenet)-related’ names For example, meanings such as ‘wrckedness 

establisher’ and ‘courtly estabhsher’ for Plantefohe and-Planterose may have turned, 

with a hypothetical varrant spelling Plaint, to ‘lamenter of wickedness’ and ‘lamenter 

of love’. Also, hopes assocrable with the various ‘child’ meanings of ‘Plant(agenet) 

related’ names may have come more to the fore with the aspirations of the Warren 

afimty for improved fortunes in then new beginnings in east Cheshire 

Shortly after the 1348-9 plague, the heir to the “Plantagenet” crown of England, 

the Black Prince, was an occasional visitor to east Cheshire (1353-g) with, in 1353 for 

example, orders being sent out for six roses to be brought from Macclesfield Forrest 

for his banquet The Black Death had led to vacant lands in east Cheshire for those 

who were rich enough to afford them, around the times when the rich were closing 

their houses in London and other cities in the hope of finding safer territory elsewhere 

Robert Brownmg’s 19th century poem, ‘The Pied Piper of Hamelm’, was based on 

27J PEanvaker(1877) IbId, Vol.1. pps 33393q7.343 

‘*G k.Holmes (1957) ibrd, $50 

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CHAPTER I9 ERRANT PLANTAGENETS AND SETTLED I’LLANTS 

wdespread eaiher myths29 which are said to have related mdmly to the 13th centmy 

town of Hamehn m Germany rather than to the 12th century name of Henry II’s 

illegitimate half-brother Hamehn Plantagenet, who fathered the Warren Plantagenets 

It is accordmgly.- 

doubtful that there was a sign&ant connection of the Warren afhmty to this poem, 

but, 

likely that the followmg sentrments in the poem may hold some relevance to the 

tmles of the Black Death, around when the Warren affiruty was begmmng to 

establish itself m east Cheshire.- 

Rats’ 

They fought the dogs and k&d the cats. And brt the babres m the cradles, 

And afe the cheeses out of the vats, And hcked the soup from the cook’s owt ladles 

In particular, 

Out came the children ru~uung, All the lrttle boys and g&s 

Trrppmg and skrpping, ran rnerrrly afrer The wonderful nuwc wth shoutrng and laughter 

rt remams.- 

doubtful that the plague was the prrmary reason for the sriival of the Warren afhmty 

m east Cheshire, but, 

likely that rt quickly soured the generally perceived nature of their arrival (cf vmegar 

was used for purlfaction durmg the plague and, m south Cheshne dialect, plarir 

means the scum that rrses to the top of the vmegar) 

19.3.6 A Plant in dispute in north Norfolk 

A 

n episode m the drsplacement of the main centre of ‘Plant hke’ names from Norfolk 

to the two subsequent mam locations for Plant clusters - namely to south Lmcolnshne, 

just across The Wash, and further afield to east Cheshire - can seemmgly 

be found in evidence for an apparent dismheritance of a Plant in Norfolk 

The 1347 Inquest mto the iands3’ of John War_ren, lasfearl of Surrey 

mentions for example that the north Norfolk Hundreds of Brothcrcross and 

Gallow were to pass to Henry, earl of Lancaster along with for example 

rents in the adjacent town of Welles and pleas etc. of the courts and leets of 

Welles. A 1352 complamt was made (Table 19 5)3’ agamst the removal by 

James Plant and others of goods from Welles and adjacent places such as 

Warham. One of the complainants in this dispute was Ralph de Stafford, 

who had become the 1st earl of Stafford m 1351 after mheriting the de 

Clare estates of hrs father-in-law Hugh d’Audley m 1347, which mcluded32 

wI was told at an early age by my father that there may have 6een some connectmn between the myths of 

the Red Piper and the early Plant famtly 

MCalendar of Inquisttmns, LX, No 54 

“The places mcnttoned m this 1352rccard arc ewdently Welles-next-the-sea, Warham, and Stlffkey which, 

though 20 mtles west along the Norfolk coast from tbe ex-Warennc manor of Gtmmmgbam. are all Just a 

coupid of mdes east fmm the ex-yeame Huqdreds of Brotbemr~ss and Gallow 

‘ZCalendar of Inquisitions, ix, No 55


1352 Jan. 28. Westminster. - Comrnislon of oyer and termmer to Richard de 

Kelleshull, l$obert de Causton and Robert Clere, on complamt by Ralph, earl of 

Stafford, and Andrew Ansem of SuthRete that . . (6 names’) . James Plant 

(24 more namesb) ... and others, carried away then goods at Welles, Warham and 

Styvekey, co. Norfolk -For 20s. to be pad to the lung. (Patent Rolls) 

“These 6 names are John Bullok of Warham, Alan de Hall, John Seem, Rxhard de Kent. Kcynold 

Bnd, &chard Seem 

bThcse 24 names are Stmon May, Robert Gunolf. Roger de Haston, Rtchard Grumme. Alan Lovel, 

Geoffrey Dolowe, Thomas Horrowe of Warham, Nuzho1a.s Bethaghe of Blakeneye, John May, Slmon 

Dalkesone, John Battulle, Robert Wtgcnadle, John Lagham, Thomas Knyght, John Heryng, Thomas 

Cwmer, Wtlltam Hamund of Welles, Ralph Raumalkynessone. John Gngge, John Bulwere, John 

Ntchol, Sonon Gngge, John Elyot, Augustme Elyot - 

Some background to this dispute. - The extensive de Glare lands of Chlbert (d 

1314). earl of Gloucester and Hertford” were dlstr~buted to his sisters, Eleanor wife 

of Hugh le Despenser the Younger, Margaret widow of Piers Gaveston, and Elizabeth 

widow of John de Burgh”. Gaveston’s widow, Margaret, married Hugh d’Audley, m 

1317, who disputed bitterly with Hugh le Despenser the Younger over the chstnbution 

of the lands It can be noted, for example, that subsequently the de Glare manor 

of Walsmgham adjoined the 1352 dispute mvolvmg James Plant and It had evldcntly 

been passed down the de Burgh line which had married with the sister, Maud Plantagenet, 

of the 1st duke of Lancaster. It may also be noted that Lancaster’s daughter, 

another Maud Plantagenet, was brIefly mamed to the eldest son of Ralph, 1st earl 

of Stafford, who was the complamant m the 1352 chspute mvolvmg James Plant and 

who was a close companion of the 4th earl (1347-51) then 1st duke (1351-61) of 

Lancaster’ 

“Some manta1 Inter-connections, provldmg some background to tbts dtspute. can be outlmed 

briefly as follows The wfe of Jolm Plnntagenct (de Warenne) was-nl~ce Lwgndn (Ptgure 19.2) 

who was a half sister of Hemy III and sister to Willtam de Valence, earl of Pembroke (d 1296) whose 

niece Ala. mamed G&at de Glare, earl of Gloucester and Hertford (d 1295) Gdbert’s her, Gdbert 

(d 1314), was kdled at Bannockburn 

bEltz.abeth’s son William de Burgh (d 1333). earl of Ulster, mamed Maud ‘of Lancaster’ Plantagenet 

(I%gure 19.4), daughter of the hlmd (from 1330) Henry Plantagenet, 3rd earl of Lancaster 

(1324.45). G A Holmes (1957) IbId, pps 36.87. 

‘0 A.Holmes (1957)IbId. pps37, 39.49 Slmon Walker (1990)lb>d, p 214 

Table 19.5: A north Norfolk dispute mvolvmg James Plant near ex-Warren lands 

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Welles with Warham 

It can be noted from further considerations, which are outhned m Table 19 5, that 

the complamant, the newly created earl of Stafford, Ralph, was alhed to an emerging 

powerful Lancastrian afimty The Lancastrians had feuded with the Warren Plantagenets 

and had Inherited their north Norfolk land rights which, it seems, t,haL Stafford 

was now allegmg Included the goods that James Plant and others had carried away 

To the extent that it can be supposed that Stafford was disputmg with traditional 

rrghts that could well have been granted by the Warrens, it can be considered that 

thus James Plant could have been part of a disinherited Warren affinrty 

19.3.7 An eventual shift of allegiance to the Lancastrian affinity 

s well as uncertainties about when the Plant name first arrived in east Cheshxe, 

A there are uncertamtres about the date when the Plants first became albed to the 

Lancastrian affinity, though the red rose of the Plant blazon suggests that such a 

transfer of allegiance may have occurred at some stage It seems possrble that some 

of the Plants may have followed a similar course to the Warrens for modrfymg their 

allegiance and, for the Warrens, the evidence is a little clearer 

Sir Edward Warren’s link to east Cheshire (cf Figure 19.2) was through marriage 

(~1340) to Cmely de Eton Cicely was a great grand-daughter of Sn Robert de 

Stockport whose family had held Stockport and other lands m east Cheshire and 

Lancashire33 direct from the royal earls of Chester ‘by reason offheforferture of Hugh 

Despenc&‘r’. In 1370 Sir Edward Warren’s son John, later Sir John de Warren, 

was found hen to the NE Cheshire estates of his cousm, Isabel de Stokeport (nee 

Davenport)35. This was around the trme when he married (~1371) Margaret, daughter 

and heiress of Su John de Stafford of Wmkham, Norfolk 

The east Cheshire inheritance acquired by the illegrtrmate Warren descent formed 

a lasting basis for a long and emment association of the Warrens with Stockport and 

Poynton It seems that (some of) the illegitimate descent of the Warren Plantagenets 

may have begun a shifting allegiance towards the Lancastrian aflimty around the 

tunes of Sir John’s marriage to Margaret, who evidently had Lancsstrran sympathies 

After his 1386/7 death, Sir John de Warren was burred at Baton, Norfolk and his 

wrdow Margaret remarried John Mamwaring 36 of Over Peover (east mrd Cheshire) 

%a Robert de Stockport (d 11239/49) was ‘a ,“a” of very constdaable property’ holding for exa~nple 

” great part of Stockport, Poynton, Woodford. Bredbury, Romdey. Wemeth, Hattersley, Wodeley, Offerton, 

Etchells, and Cheadle. all in Chesbtre; and Plumpton and Fotmby I” Lancashtre 

‘%ugh Despenser, Bishop of Winchester was appointed last Justtctar of England (1260-1,1263) t” oppowon 

to Henty III and he was killed fightmg against the ktng at Eveshal” I” 1265 HIS barony was tn NE 

Cheshw and extended from Bolhngton, near Macclesfield, Butley on the Bolhn, Chelford, through Stockport 

to Mottmm I” Longendale (FM.Powtcke (1947) Kmg Henry II and the lord Edward, Vol II, p 420) 

HIS son, Hugh le Despenser (1261-1326). and grandson, Hugh le Despenser the Youngcr(c1290.1326) were 

lone supporters of Caveston, bttter enemtes of Thomas Plantagenet, 2nd earl of Lancaster (1298.1322). and 

favourites of Edward II. 

%hs 1s confimwd by a 1418 record (J.PEawaker (1880) Easr Cheshrre Past and Present. Vol II pps 

214-5.286 ) And the Juryfurther say that 5-w John Warren. Km, IS next of km of the sard Robert, so!! of 

Ntcholas de Eton. namely the son of C~cely . 

%At.somc 

tmx between 1337 and 1450 the ‘manor of Werford’ I” east Chesblre passed to the Masseys of 

Poddtngton - Warford, along wtth other eaSt Cheshtre townshlps such as North Rode and Snelson. appear 

I” the Domesday survey (1086); as bang held by the ancestor. Ranulph or Randle. of the Mar:wanng family 

,1 

J PEarwaker(l880) Ibid: Vol.11, p$s 425,641. d4j 

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CHAPTER 19. ERRANT PLANTAGENEJJS AND SETTLED PLAh’7S 

Margaret’s memorral effigy (~1420) m Over Peover church shows her wearmg the 

Lancastrran SS hvery collar of which few examples have been found on a woman, 

another rare example bemg on the effigy of the wife, Joan of Navarre (d 1397), of the 

subsequent first Lancastrian kings7. 

In the Inquisition Post Mortem for Sir John Warren’s wife Margaret (d 6 April 

1418) there 1s a reference to Stockport ahd Poynton (NE Cheshire) and ‘to the Davenport 

marden name of Sir dohn’s cousm, Isabel de Stokeport . 

That a certain Ralph de Davenport and John de Davenporr of Henbury were 

lately &edof the manors of Stockpoti and Poynton m thetr demense as offee, 

and they conceded the sard manors to Srr John de Warren, Knt., and Margaret 

his wife, and their hears .... 

(?This disinherited) Ranulph of Davenport and 5 others had commanded the 

bodyguard of watches, whose major part had been drawn by Richard II from Cheshire 

These men were described in those embittered political trmes as ‘arrogant insolent 

rufians’38. The growing Lancastnan affinity had progressively mcluded Stafford and 

the High Peak and, along with the Lancastrians’ dominant hold over Lancashire, 

it had increasmgly surrounded Cheshire and had ultrmately led on, m 1399, to the 

capture of the last “Plantagenet king” Richard II at Chester 

19.4 The chameleon-like name Plant 

t seems clear that the detailed meamng of the Plant name has changed down 

the centuries. Early influences may have arisen in proxnnrty to the place name 

-- “- Plontone and to the surname Plantagenet A ‘life cycle’ of fertile, abundance, 

estabbsher, and chilild meanings may have progressed on to such meanings as ‘love child’ 

and ‘noble young heir’, before attaining any significant connotations of ‘industry’ or 

‘gardening’ 

19.4.1 Early formation of the name 

eoffrey V ‘le bon’ Plantagenet was born in 1113 m Anjou western France and, m 

G 1154, hrs legitimate son became King Henry II of England. Henry’s illegitimate 

half-brother Hamelin fathered Plantagenet as a surname, for’the Warren earls of 

Surrey and their close family 

Proximities of the formative Pl(a/e)nt(e) name to the Warren Plantagenets suggest 

that the Plants may have been offshoots of that affinity. For example, the 

‘similar’ mid 13th century name Plantyn can be taken to be a playful diminutive of 

the Plantagenet surname of those de Warennes. Hager Plantyn can be connected directly 

to the wife, Maud, of William Plantagenet (Warren) and her association with 

Monmouthshire provides a hkely link to the Welsh meamng ‘child’ of plant. 

As well as an associatron of the Warren Plantagenets with Monmouthshire (c1225- 

50), there was also an ongoing assocration of therr surname with Monmouthshire 

which became a temporary homeland (~1280-1310) for the Lancastrians who evidently 

adopted Plantagenet as their surname around that time. Such events, when compared 

3$PEanuakes(1880) hid, Vol II, pps 119,286 

)*H 1 Hewitt (1967) Ch&hrre under rhe Three &lwards, p 107 P WCullen and R Harden (1986) The 

Chstles of Cheslrwe. p 13


AND SETTLED PLAh’TS 

with possible ‘horse borne abundance’ or ‘horse borne estabhsher’ (re-)mterpretatrons 

of the Pl(a/e)nt(a/e)genet name, might be thought to have related to contemporuy 

actrvrtres, such as of horse-borne transport opening up the south Wales wool fulling 

area, though the detad of those early times is sparse 

19.4.2 A restatement of the 4 theorems 

A 

fuller deliberation of the evidence, for the Plant name, can be presented m the 

form of four theorems which, in the light of the current evrdence, mrght be restated 

as- 

1. royalist auxiliary (e.g. Radulphus Plente with duties to the king at Oxford m 

1219) 

2. Plantagenet child (c$ connectrons of the Warren Plantagenets to Norfolk and 

Monmouthshne around 1225 and then drrect lmk to the bye-name Plantyn) 

3. possible secondary associations with.. 

(a) from Plonrone or from la Planteland 

(b) meanmgs assocrated with foundation, 

(Monmouthshne) 

growth and plenty 

(c) a drminutive of the Bloundeville name assocrable with a drminutrve of the 

Plantagenet name, both having associations with the Palatine of Chester 

4. an amalgam of meaning associated with Pl(a/e)nte-Tun and Pl(aLe)nte-Genet, perhaps 

aruung first m the south east of England and then revrved in connectron 

with a cl340 marriage between an illegitimate descendant of the Warren Plantagenets 

and the heiress of the NE Cheshire de Sfockport famrly - this family 

had owned Plontone in Lancashrre. 

Meanings embodied in theorems 1 and 2 can be sssocrated wrth Warren Plantagenet 

activities in the south east of England, and also m the Welsh borders, around 

the times of the first known evidence for the formative Plant name. 

Similar meanings may then have been revived around the times of a more permanent 

settlement of the illegitimate Warren (Plantagenet) descent in mid 14th century 

east Cheshire, ‘which was also around the times of the first known evrdence for the 

Plant name in Its subsequent east Cheshire homeland. Such an evident settlement 

of Warrens and Plants may have taken place in a context of a diminishing national 

influence for the Warren affinity and an amalgamation of meanings, as mdicated by 

theorems 3(b) and 4. 

Earlier meanings associated with ‘plenty’ may have become suppressed following, 

for example, the deprivations of the Black Death and a greater emphasis may have 

become placed on ‘establisher child’ meanings for the subsequently more settled Plant 

surname in east Cheshire. More generally, ‘Plant(agenet) related’ names may be said 

to have carried particular connotations of an ‘establisher young man’, fitting them 

loosely into a general surname category of ‘title or early occupational’ surnames3g. 

39The surname Child, when taken m conpmstkm#th the We%ex Childe tradxtum, 17 already widely held 

to he a sunlame of that type

CiX4PTER 19. ERRANT PLANTAGENETS 

-. 

1435 Mlsyn, Fu-e of Love, 5 

Fyer of fmward lufe, 

the whilk W&IS burmnyng of verte.u, 

& nonysches the plantcs of all vyce 


1500-20 Dunbar, Poems, IXXXVII, 30 

Great Gode ws graunt that we have 

long desmt, 

A plaunt to sprmg of thl succcss~on 

Table 19.6: Evrdent ‘love chrld’ and ‘heir’ meanmgs of the word plant, as hsted m the 

Oxford En&h Dlctronary 

19.4.3 Some subsequent developments for the name’s meaning 

rlliam Langland’s reference (~1380) to the ‘pl(a/e)nte ofpes’ as the issue of ‘love 

WI.. the greatest gifr yr lord grveth’ suggests a mesnmg for Plant srmriar to that of 

Chrlde, namely a ‘princely young man’ albeit with messranic (cf Prmce of Peace) or 

‘love child’ overtones. 

Some further usages of the word plant, along these hnes of ‘love child’ or ‘heir’, 

are indicated m Table 19.6 

By ~1621, a ‘noble young hen meaning to plant seems to be m evidence m the 

Plants’ Cheshire homeland m a passage describing Srr John Savage@.- 

... the xith Knight of that noble Race, and Name, Sir John Savage .. SIX times High 

She@ thrice Mayor of thts city of Chester ... concernmg the great hope and worth of 

hrs Issue, m the person of his Grandchild then a young Plant and newly sent to the 

Innes of Court, to be trained up answerably to his Bzrth and Drgnrty . 

That hopeful Plant. that IS the apparent Herr 

Of all his glory, and this great Discent; 

Oh! be the rest, as hu beginrungs are, 

That Savages may still be excellent 

By the late 18th century an industrial meaning was evrdently becommg wrdely 

recognised for the chameleonic word and surname Plant as characterrsed by, for example, 

a Plants Yanl base for the conversion of init&lly just a few of Sheffield’s many 

water-powered grinding wheels into water and steam powered forges (Chapters 12, 

13, and 14). The Plant of thus Plant’s Yard had married mto a prominent Sheffield 

family who, amongst other things, repeatedly held the title ‘The Master Cutler’ - a 

nephew of this Plant’s wife was for example the 1816 Master Cutler and also a close 

friend of the Historian, Joseph Hunter-it was Hunter who proved the illegitimacy of 

the east Cheshire Warren descent (Figure 19.2) from the Plantagenet (de Warenne) 

earls of Surrey41. 

A 20th century context has more recently, it seems, led us mto placing a dommant 

emphasis on a ‘gardener mterpretation’ for the Plant name 

“Tlus appears m the book by Dame1 Kmg (1656) entitled ‘Vale Royal ofEn&mdorfhe County Pahzttne 

o~chester rllustrated’ which mcludes an account by Wfimm Wehh wntten cl621 em&d ‘A descnphon of 

the cuy of Chester; compiled by Mr Webb, Mr of Arts and somflme under-shemifto Su R&zrd Lee of Lee. 

m Cheshire’. 

4’J Hunter (1828) Htstory ofsouth Yorkshire. Vol J, pps 104-1M)notcs that Edward de Warren 1s named as 

one of the sons of the last Earl of Warren in his will, dated 1347. and as the Earl was never divorced from his 

wlfp Joan de Barre, grand-daughter of Edward I, al is ohildren were dlegihmatk J.l?!?&v&er (18kO)&et 

Cheshire. Past and Present, VoI II, ~275 48

PALMJSR’S INDEX TO TBE TIMES, 1790-1905 AND RELATED SOURCES 

Continued from Journals 17 and 18 

By Brad Scott (Member No 17 I) 

5 September 1874 - Pohce Isaac Plant for selhng bad hams - Sheffield Corporatton 

A general crusade has Just been made by the officers of the Sheffield Corporation agamst certam tradesmen 

who have been de&g m bad food The medmal officer of health recently reported that a large proportion of 

the sickness and death m the borough was caused by the wnsmnptmn of bad food, and yesterday three dealers 

were brought before the magistrates and wry heavdy fined Mr John B&men, butcher, of Fowler Street, was 

fmed ES0 for exposmg for sale 80 pieces of bad meat, some of which was thoroughly putnd,and Isaac Plant, 

provision dealer, of Meadow Street, was fined E5.5 for exposing for sale mght hams totally unfit for human 

food A fruit dealer, named Wdlmm Cooper, livmg m Old Street, was also fined $5 and costs for sellmg bad 

P== 

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18 March 1868 -Pohce Robert, Thomas and David Plant, horse stealmg - Tootmg and P&am 

At the Wandsworth Pohce-court, Robert Plant, Thomas Plant and David Plant, brothers, who have been m 

custody for some time on charges of steahng horses and carts in the nelghbourhood of Tooting and P&ham, 

were brought up for final examination Four cases were completed on Saturday last, when the pnsoners were 

committed for tnal The prisoner David was, however, &rther remanded m a fifth case Alfred Chapman, m 

the service of Mr Adam Johnson, a grocer, of Balham-lull, said that on the lZti of December last he was out 

with the horse and cart sewing customers He letI the horse and cart outsIde a house in Bedford-hdl for about 

five “mutes, and when he returned they were gone. George Yoell, a gardener, said on the l2* of December he 

was working under the fence of Mr S&user, Bedford-hill, when he saw Chapman leave hrs horse and cart and 

go mto the house Davtd Plant and two other men came along together One of them unchained the wheel, got 

mto the cart, and drove away The prisoner and the other man ran towards Brixton The man who drove 

thrashed the horse with the butt end of the wlup, and one of the other men, who ran by the side, struck It 

backhanded blows with a stick In answer to a question, the wtness said he saw the prisoner in a cell with four 

other men, and at once recognised lum Thomas Bryant, another gardener, said he was workmg at Mr 

Shoolbred’s, Bedford&II, at the time m questlon He saw a man whom he belmved was the pnsoner w-awe 

[sm] his hat to two other men When he wawd his hat the two men started off nmmng Other evidence was 

gwen to the effect that the cart was traced to the premises of a coach painter named Rmhards, m Boroughmews, 

Blackfnars Road, who had received It from a customer named Mdls for the purpose of paintmg It Mdls 

accounted for the possewon by stating that he bought the cart in open market of two young men The 

pnsoner, who resewed his defence, was &lly wmmtted for fnal An application was made for the restoratmn 

of the cart, but the magistrate explained that he had no power to order d to be gwen up, 8s the law protected a 

purchase m open market The remedy would be by action 

case 

17 timber 1857 

Wmter Assizes - Oxford Cwzuit, Dee IS (Before Mr Baron Martm) 

Ann Plant, aged 22 was charged unth the wilful murder of John Plant, on 22”d October, 1857, at 

Wolverhampton 

Mr Spooner appeared for the prosecuhon, the pnsoner was undefended 

The facts of thts painful case wdl be sufficmntly explained by the evidence given by the followmg witnesses 

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Hannah Hmkman said, 1 am the wife of George fickman, at Hall Green, Sedgley The pnsoner’s mother 

hves next door The pnsoner has not hved wtth her mother for two years I remember pnsoner wmmg home 

wnh a httle boy On the 20a’ October the prisoner was sntmg m my brewhouse, and her stster asked me if 1 

would let her stt by my fire I dtd let her On the 21” she lay at another person’s house, Mrs Cooper’s On the 

2Zti she came to my house, and asked tf I could let her wash and dress the baby 1 gave her leave That was on 

Thursday She went out wtth the baby between 2 and 3 o’clock She smd she was gomg down to Froghall to 

father her baby She called the baby “John” I tned to gave the baby some t&y, when she had none to gave it 

She cslled the baby “John Plant” She came back on Thursday between 8 and 9 o’clock She had not got the 

baby I satd, “m what has brought you back again, yhat have you done v&h the &Id?” She satd, “By God, 

Hannah, I gave the child away A gentleman and lady came and satd, ‘Dear me, what ads your baby?’ and 

asked me to gtve her the child The lady then took It, and carried m her arms to Stafford Street ” She said, “the 

lady took tt to a house in Stafford Street, which was carpeted all over” I beheved what she satd, and that mght 

(Thursday) she slept by my side The next day (Friday) she slept in the house of a person next door but one 

On Saturday, the 24* she went away to Ms Walker’s, of Hallfield On the Thursday she took some clothes, 

and brought them back She said the gentleman bought some clothes for the chtld, and told her to take back the 

clothes and make a few pence of them On the Tuesday mommg, the 27*, I went to Mrs Walker’s at Hallfield 

I saw the pnsoner there, and satd to her, “You’ve destroyed your &Id, wdl you go wth me or Mr Ponder to 

the gentleman you gave the chdd toe” She said she would netther go with me nor Mr Ponder I satd, “Ann, tf 

you’ve destroyed your child, you wtll have to confess ” She satd, “Oh, Hannah, I have destroyed my chtld, tt 

ts trouble that brought me to it” She stud at first she had put tt m the river,, and then she srod she had put It m 

the road I then sent for Mr Ponder and he came The next day, Wednesday, Mr Ponder showed me a child It 

was the same child I saw wtth the pnsoner I am sure of that I had washed Its clothes and suckled tt The 

pnsouer’s mother found her wtth victuals, but she had no money 

Catherme Ingram said, - I am the stster of the last witness, and live wtth her I recollect the prtsoner commg 

back without the chdd 

Wilham Ponder said, - I sm a pohce constable at Bdston On Tuesday mommg 1 was sent for to Mrs 

Hickman’s at Hallfield I saw the prisoner there I asked her what she had done wtth the chdd She made no 

reply At last she satd, tf I would allow her to Jump down a ptt she would tell me all about tt I asked her two 

or three times, and she said she would tell me when the crowd of people were gone 1 took her mto an 

adjotmng room, with two gentlemen She then satd she had thrown her child m the river I asked her 

whereabouts she threw it She said she threw it m the river by the stde of the radway bridge that goes over the 

over on thts stde Bdston Street, Wolverhampton I asked her tf she put anytlung wdh d to smk tt She then 

satd, “Oh, Mr Ponder, I threw my chdd m alme” She then began to tear her hmr She satd she should have 

gone to Froghall, but her shoes were so bad she turned back She satd the chtld’s name was John Plant I took 

her to the police station, and then searched the river,, but I dtd not find any body there that day The next day I 

got some drags, and found the body I showed it to Ann Hickman I produce the gown It had on The body 

was about 100 yards below the bridge down the stream 

Mr H D Best, a surgeon ofBdston, satd he had exammed the body of the chdd, and that he was of opmton the 

child was suffocated by drowmng Them were no marks of vtolence 

The prrsoner’s statement before the magtstrates was put m and read, as follows _ “I dtd it for want I had no 

home to go to I had been confined only a month, and had to stt up all mght m the brewhouse I had nowhere 

to take tt to ” 

Mr Baron Martm havmg summed up the evidence 

The Jury found the prrsouer Guilty, wtth a strong recommendanon to mercy 

HIS Lordshtp satd he enttrely conourred m the verdtct, but, as he felt sure, under the cucumstances, that if he 

passed sentence of death it would not be camed mto effect, he thought n would be better at once to avail 

htmself of the power which he had, and to order sentence of death to be recorded HIS Lordshtp, who appeared 

much affected, then ordered sentence of death to be recorded, telhng the pnsoner that she would be kept m 

penal servnude for hfe 

The prisoner w&a then removed 

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EXTRACTS FROM DURIIAM RECORD OFFICE TAKEN BY ANDREW PLANT 

Member No 69 

CALENDAR OF PRISONERS IN DURHAM GAOL 1861-71 

(Nothumberland and Durham Famdy HIstory Society, Ed M Fumess) 

John Plant, 59, labourer (could read) conumtted by H Chaytor Esq Uttenng a false and counterftxt half crown 

and a shilling, knowrug them to be false and counterfelt, and havmg III his possesson at the tune of such 

uttenng other pieces of false counterfeit corn, sev&iy at Wttton le Wear 31 10 1863 Pleaded gudty of 

uttenng false ~01% 12 mouths hard labour Tned 4 1 1864 

MINING DEATHS IN GREAT BRITAIN 1850-70 (Indexed by Ian Winstanley) 

Date P:t Name Age 

25 11 1850 Langley Fields, Dar&y, Shrops 

129 1854 Long Meadows, Oldbury 

17 3 1854 Victoria, Wakefield 

20 6 1856 Old Park, Dudley 

20 3 1861 Partaway Hall, Rowley Regis 

30.1 1863 Bromford, West Bromwch 

137 1865 Berry Hdl, Stoke 

30 4 1866 Cod Leason, Word&y 

18 10 1867 Bunkers Hdl, Bdston 

R Plant 

P Plant 

John Plant 

J Plant 

J Plant 

w Plant 

Job Plant 

c Plant 

W Plant 

NA 

NA 

NA 

15 (among 8 men and a boy) 

38 Piieman 

38 COlllW 

NA Driver 

14 COk 

23 Banksman 

In the same book there 1s also reference to a Plant Colhery at Wdlenhall 

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MISCELLANEOUS EXTRACTS FROM COMMERCIAL DIRECTORIES 

The followmg references have been taken from van~us drectones by Judith Klrkby (Member No 139) 

Pvwt’s Dtrectow of Shrooshlre 1828/g 

Wdham PLANT 

Saddler, High Street, Newport 

Aubrev’s Dlrectorv Of Shrooshlre 190X/9 

H L PLANT 

Confectioner, Shropshire Street, Market Drayton 

W PLANT 

Fruterer, mgh Street, Newport 

w PLANT 

Fishmonger, High Street, Newport 

James PLANT 

Blacksmith, Ketley, near Wellmgton 

Allan PLANT 

Boot and shoe maker, Wyle Cop, Shrewsbury 

John PLANT 

Butcher, New Street, Wellmgton 

John PLANT 

Farmer, Gravener, Wentnor 

Thomas PLANT 

Farmer, Bratton House, Dr&ton, nr Wrockwardme 

In the trade’s due&cry se&on - 

Both the farmers are mentwned agamn, plus 

T PLANT 

Saddler and harness manufacturer, tllgh Street, Newport 

J PLANT 

Srmth (presumably blacksmith), Ightfield, WhItchurch 

P&t’s DIPX~CIN of Shmoshu’e 1842 

Stephen PLANT 

Boot and shoe maker, St Mary Street, Newport 

Thomas PLANT 

Boot and shoe maker, Chfford Street, WhItchurch 

WdhamPLANf 

Beer retailer, Canal Bridge, Newport 

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Pwt’s Dm!ctow ofDerbvshre 1828/g 

Robert PLANT 

Watch and clock maker, King Street, Bakewell 

Thomas PLANT 

Clog and patten maker, Packer’s ROW, Chestertield 

Thomas PLANT 

Watch and clock maker, TIdeswell 

Pinot’s Directorv of Cheshire 1828/9 

Thomas PLANT 

Liquor merchant, figh Street, Congleton 

John PLANT 

Gentleman, ElIworth, Mddlewlch 

George PLANT 

Saddler, Front street, Sandbach 

Andrew PLANT 

Shoemaker, Holmes Chapel 

l 

George PLANT 

Baker, flour dealer, Twmt Dale, Stockport 

Edward PLANT 

Shopkeeper, sundries, Throstlegrove, Stockport 

Andrew PLANT 

Shopkeeper and se&man, Lancashire Hdl, Stockport 

James PLANT 

Shopkeeper, sundnes, Charles St, Macclesfield 

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STAFFORDSEIIRE BURIAL INDEX 

From Teresa to Thomas 

Tlus bst 1s an addltlon to that shown m Journal No 11 Pages 55 -f 56 

Qgg Forename F&&s Pansh Church 

l 

204 1775 

06 1587 

0 11 1593 

071611 

94 1616 

6 111619 

03 1623 

29 I 1639 

031643 

1611648 

2111657 

3 5 1662 

1561665 

0 11 1675 

30 10 1680 

4 5 1687 

65 1696 

79 1696 

21 1 1698 

12 1 1699 

15 10 1700 

303 1702 

248 1704 

225 1706 

246 1707 

25 11707 

189 1709 

228 1713 

17 12 1713 

881716 

258 1724 

257 1725 

04 1729 

13 71732 

231 1734 

521738 

17 11740 

28 1741 

94 1742 

7101744 

2812 1745 

152 1747 

1541748 

271754 

30121754 

1410 1755 

6 7 1759 

2281760 

43 1761 

264 1762 

‘Teresa 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

The 

Thomas 

Thos 

Tho 

Tho 

Tho 

Tho 

Thomas 

Thos 

ThO 

Tho 

Thomas 

Tho 

Th 

Tho 

Thomas 

Tho 

Thomas 

Tho 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Tho 

Tho 

Thomas 

Tho 

Thomas 

The 

The 

Thomas 

Tho 

Thos 

Tho 

The 

Thomas 

Tho 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thos 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Th0”w.s 

217 1762 Thomas 

d/o Stephen & Pmdencwf Barnfield 

of Meaford 

s/o James & Katheryne 

ofDarlaston 

ofleek 

s/o Nicholas of Darlaston 

of the Red Earth age 82 

% Henry 

of Redearth 

of Ha&wood 

s/o Beardmore Plant of ye Taft 

of Stony Cbffe 

ofMIll St 

of Whw Berchm, Bradnop 

ofprestbury, Co Cheshire 

infant of Barn Yates 

de Bametield 

Infant of Hard Lowe 

fs Gubenu, natus erat 

of Stackwell St 

senmr, de Swmnerton 

of Hardlow 

of Leekmoor 

of Standon 

inf Of Leek Moor 

mf 

of Red Earth 

s/o Tho & Sarah of Hurdlow 

of spot 

mf OfJohn & Anne 

do Tho & Jane of Red Earth 

of Hard Low 

mf OfLeek 

of Swinn 

of Walk Mill Lane 

of Pierce Hay 

(entry also m Leek) of Dunwood 

ofLeek 

% MaIy & Plulhp 

do Robert 

of Stoke, also MI d 23” 

of Lane School age 34 MR 

do Jos 62 Eliz 

Swy”“ert0” 

stone 

stone 

stone 

Swynnerton 

MuckIestone 

stone 

Leek 

stone 

Stoke on Trent 

Leek 

Leek 

Leek 

Leek 

stone 

Trentham 

Leek 

Leek 

Longnor 

Leek 

Leek 

Leek 

SWp”NtO” 

Leek 

SWp”WtO” 

Leek 

Wolverhampton 

Swynnerton 

Leek 

Leek 

Swynnerton 

Leek 

stone 

Leek 

Leek 

stone 

Leek 

Leek 

Leek 

Leek 

Swynnerton 

Mad&y 

Brewood 

Endon 

Mdwich 

Leek 

Uttoxeter 

Ipstones 

Gnodl 

Draycott In the kloors 

Eccleshall 

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15 3 1763 

23 11 1764 

19 4 1768 

15 6 1768 

24 5 1770 

30 11 1770 

17 11 1771 

3 9 1775 

219 1777 

9 9 1778 

2 4 1779 

15 10 1781 

10 6 1782 

13 6 1782 

29 8 1784 

30 12 1797 

24 10 1799 

24 7 1837 

Thomas 

Thos 

Thomas 

Thos’ 

Thomas 

Thos 

Thomas 

Th0nla.s 

Thomas 

TilOIIl%S 

Thos 

Thos 

Thomas 

no 

Thomas 

Thomas 

Thomas 

the Clerk of Swmn 

of Leek Moor 

of Beech 

% James 

of Hardlowe 

pauper of Outwood 

ofEttiqshal1 

do Isaac 

of stone 

(entry also I” leek) mf bf Rownal 

age 21 

ofRedJbth 

mf 

.% Samuel 

do Wdham 

of Sandford St 

Swynnelton 

Leek 

SWpIl~ltOll 

Wolverhampton 

Leek 

Gnosall 

Sedgley 

uttoxeter 

Mdwch 

Endon 

Bnerley HIII 

Leek 

Leek 

Uttoxeter 

Stoke on Trent 

West Bromwoh 

uttoxetcr 

Lichfield, St Michael 

I

JOHN PLANT - BURY FOOTBALL 

CLUB 

The highest score ever recorded m the final of the Engbsh Football Asscwatmn Cup (Soccer to ow Amencan 

cousms) was m 1903 when Bury beat Derby County 6-O at Crystal Palace, London Bury bad prevmusly won 

the cup m 19W when they beat Southampton 4-0, also at Crystal Palace 

At the begmnmg of the 20” Cenhq Bury were one of the best clubs m England - you could say they were the 

Manchester Uruted of their period - and between 1895 and 1912 played m Dw~slon 1 of the English Football 

league 

The club Itself was founded early in the 1880’s when at a meetmg at the Waggon and Horses Hotel, attended 

largely by members of Bury Weslyans and Bury Umtanans football clubs, It was decided to form a new Bury 

Club Tlus was officially formed at a subsequent gathenng at the Old White Horse Hotel, Fleet Street, Bury on 

24ti April 1885 

Their first football league game was on l* September 1895 in Division 2 when they played Manchester City at 

home, beating them 4-2 That season 1894-95 Bury finished as champions of Divismn 2 and were promoted to 

Dtvislon 1 

Included m the team for the inaugural game agamst Manchester City and the two cup final victories was a John 

Plant (laxown as Jack) who played at Outside Left- left srded striker in modem terminology In fact, John 

scored one ofthe goals m the 4-O cup final win over Southampton 

According to tbe records of Bury Football Club, John 

(Jack) bad bwn horn Rollington, March 1871, joining 

Bury m April 1890 

Durmg his playmg pertoa he was 5’-8” m height and 

weighed 12 stone 4 lbs He played Outside Left 

throughout his czww at Rory and prcnr to signing for 

Bury he had played for Bolhngton Rambles, 

Bollmgton Wanderers and HeatonNoms (Stockport) 

HIS fust game for Bury was on lgti April 1890 when 

they heat Hyde 6-n He played for I?ngland once on 

F Apnl 1900 

Between season 189415 and 1966/7 he played a total 

of319Leaguegamesscoring55goalsand31FACup 

gme~ wonng 9 goal9 Additconally he played a 

number ofLancashire and Manchester Cup Games 

For a fill season 1898/9 he was on loan to Readmg Football Club 

Jack Plant-Bury F C 

The 1874 Commercnl Dwxtory for BoIlington bsts a John Plant, a baker lwmg m Pools yard and the I881 

Census for Bollington gives the following information 

Palmerston Street 

Mary AnnPlant W 34 F head Baker born Manchester 

JohnPlant U 10 M son Scholar bomBoll~ngton 

Ellen Plant U 6 F Dau “ born Pamcroft 

HarrietPlant U 3 F Dau “ born Bollington 

Ebzabeth Plant U 1 F Dau born Bollington 

Walter Burgess U 16 M Servant Baker born Macclesfield 

The probabdlty 1s that thts was John’s family and bts father must have dxd 1880 

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If anybody 1s mtmested ,n this lme of research I would suggest that they obtam a copy of John’s brth 

certtficate and look at Bollmgton P R for the penod 

One final thing The photograph above, whmh was forwarded to me by Bury F C was taken at the studm of J 

M Barbour The Bury team for then first game m September 1894 mcluded an mslde right by the name of 

Barbour (In fact he scored hvo goals) and I wonder If he was one and the same 

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Plant-related material in the PRO and British Library 

Brad Scott 

38 Stanford Avenue, Hassocks, Sussex BN6 8JJ 

 

(member No 171) 

V&h the advent of large amounts of mformation now on the Internet, there are many opportmutues for iindmg 

famdy-specific d&ads that would previously have been diffKalt If not xmposslble This art&. provides an 

rllustration of the sort of material that can be uncovered using two such sources, and also notes the limdatlons 

of them 

Public Record Office 

Last year the PRO made its catalogue avadable on the Internet for the first time, which makes It much easier to 

find items than It ever has before, especially those relating to a specific name However, as the PRO would 

themselves acknowledge, the results you get from searching thts catalague are not complete, they do not 

retrieve every piece of information they hold that relates to or mentions someone with e part~culer surname 

The retneval IS only as good as the ongmal mdex from which It was compiled Furthermore, those Indexes 

whmh are handwritten, such as those to many Chancery cases, Death Duty Indexes and probate records are not 

yet Included m the online database Even so, gtven these hmltations, a large number of leads to pate&ally 

mterestmg documents an be found The basm descriptcve informatton mcluded below IS taken from the PRO’s 

own so”rces 

Theintemet address ofthecatalogueis 

Records of the Court of Star Chamber 

War Office: Offersr Services, First World War, Long Number Papers 

Thus class contains records and correspondence for Regular Army and Emergency Reserve oficers who served 

in the First World War 

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Microfilm of servwe records of non commlssxoned of’ricers and other ranks who were discharged from the 

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This class contains records and correspondence for officers wth temporary comnuss~ons and Temtorial Army 

officers who served m the Prrst World War With the desticuon of serwce records forms m 1940 when the 

War Ofiice record store was damaged by enemy actton, these files, together wth WO 339 wag Number 

papers) for Regular Army and Emergency Reserve offhxs, provided the only remaming senwe record 

information for Fust World War officers 

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Court of Chancev 

Cl contams peadings, mterrogatories, depositions and exhlblts relatmg to cases mmated m the Court of 

Chancery up to 1558 Thereafter the document classes are essentially cbronologica1 The pleadings ofien 

comprise the plaint&s bdl of complamt only, but the defendant’s answer and other documents in the process, 

Including the plamtlffs replication to the answer, are filed also in many cases 

c 1/64/1012 

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Warrand Y Plant ,697 

Beck& Y Wyard, Sawer. Pbarob, Plant Sutfolk ,698 

Brow Copley. Eyre, Hungate Y Hun@o, Bnghr. Tbwa,,ces. Plan,. Barker Yorl\q 

Crampton Br Parkem ” Turner 8c Plant SLaffs 1669 

crosse Y Thmby, Hall, Gmxlnoll, Barnes, Plant 8c Penn Lmcc ,669 

Plant Y Ross ,752 

Plant ” Allen 1754 

Plan1 ” coten ,739 

SIeodmao ” Plant ,739 

SteadmaIn” Plant Fe0 I 

Plant Y Jnmett 1118 

Plant ” Machcll ,730 

Plant” Hart 1740 

Plant ” slater 1141 

Bouttlowm ” Plant 1180 

Plant Y Noms ,185 

K&Z” Plant ,767 

Lover Y Pbull 1162 

plant ” cc&o ,772Amd 1713 

Robeasan Y Plant 1751 

Yates Y plant 1139 

Dalnky Y Plant 

Plan1 ” All& 

1786 

1157 

Plantv Cooke ,774 

Plant ” Plan1 1791 

Bulk ” Plant 1765 

cat Y plant 1190 

Plant ” Taylor 1748 

Tagg Y Plant 1771 

Plant ” cox 1168 

Plant v Gibbs 1762 

Plmt ” salt 1765 

1688 

C 21 contams depositions in cases on the equty side of Chancery taken by wmnt~~~oners in the locality where 

the dispute had arisen 

C 21lA17l6 

Nlm Y Plant 

The followmg are Inquisitions Post Mortem, Sews II, and other Inqulsmons Inquiahons post moltem were 

hearmgs conducted before Juries and normally presided over by a local crown official They were typically 

held by mandate of a chancery writ requiring a return of the value and terms of tenure of an estate held by a 

lately-deceased tenant-in-chef of the crown, and of the identIty and age of any bar, hwess or co-hwess to 

such an estate The purpose of the mquisitions was to ensure the correct identification and evaluation of all 

propertms which ought to be in the king’s hands by reason of wheat or by right of wardslup or marriage 

C 142l2131126 

c 14u54w59 

Plant, N~obolas Wamtck 

Pbr& Il,omas Northan,,t 

Date 29 Elwabotb 

Date 12chdes1 

C 143 contains the Inquisitmns Ad Quad Damnum, Henry m to Richard lrl These were taken RS a result of 

apphcatlons to the crown for licences to ahenate land, notably to religious houses, or for grants of other 

privileges such as the right to hold fairs or markets The sheriff, escheator or other local official was ordered to 

enquire whether such a grant or licence would be prejudmial to the interests of the crown or others In the case 

of the alienation of land, the enquiry had to &cover the tenure, servxe and yearly value of the land ahenated, 

what lands would be I& to the &en&or and the effect on his finanwxl status and posltion 

c 143i27on Rrohard Graymagh and John son of Alan Plant to grant messuqs and land u1 Buqb by Wm,tkt to the Pnor and 

c.m”ent of Bulbngton, retaloulg land xn Burgh Llnooln Wdbam de la Chaumbre ofBull@a ad John Cast&w of Kyme to grant R 

mmsuagc Date 18 EDWARD In 

British Library 

The Britwh Library catalogue IS also avrulable onthe web now at Usmgibls one 

can identify book8 wntten by or about individuals, provided the ongmal catalogue entry records such 

mformation The hst below IS of the older works at the BL and does not include any recent works by or about 

Plants It 1s also usefid to remember that the BL catalogue 1s not a complete collection of early pnnted books, 

and there may well be other works in other hbranes which could be relevant 

52

Au,hrr PLANT RaLmi EG s 

TUle “uloq of Cheadle, “I Staffordsbre, and nc,ghlmunnS places W,tb chapters on Croxdm Abbey by C Lynnm, and tbc Cheadle 

coalfield by W Molyneux 

Shehmk 4462 d 23 

a,+ Au6wrPLANf Samwl 

Tick PamcM Smons preached m the Pansh Church of Wcstoonqon-Trent 

Pubbxher London, 1857 So 

i’t,blish& [L&dw?l I674 So 

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