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INTERVIEW 41
The effect he has is to drive you
still further in the direction of
false life, because until we are
living according to the spirit, we
live in the flesh. To meet Baba is
to increase the pace of your life in
one direction or the other—it may
be to destruction, because the
meaning of the world is death, so
that Baba is a very dangerous
person, even to know about, and
certainly to be in contact with.
However meaningless may seem
what he says to you, you must do
it. And so, unless you are prepared
to do what he says, I advise
you not to ask him anything. He
says "don ' t worry" always, to
everyone. If we could stop
worrying, our lives would be
entirely different. The difficulty is
that we don ' t trust. We haven ' t
confidence, we don ' t believe, and
all our troubles come from that.
Another question that is often
discussed is miracles and miraculous
events. Of course, Indians
write about numerous things that
he has done or is supposed to
have done. It is not that miracles
don't happen, but that they don ' t
matter. Miracles happen in the
world of mechanics. Miracles,
therefore, from a spiritual point of
view, signify nothing whatever,
and if I saw a series of miraculous
things in connection with Baba, I
should feel immediately that there
was something wrong. A miracle
is a miracle from the standpoint
of the world—and that does not
matter. There are miracles in the
spiritual world. Ah! that is a
different matter. The miracle in
the spiritual world is to be
yourself, and that is the greatest
miracle—to be yourself, and only
those people who get above the
earth—above the terms of the
world—only those people experience
this. So the fact that Baba
does no miracles in the physical
sense is the greatest possible
proof of his spiritual being. What
he does in secret is his own affair.
It is dangerous to become his
disciple, and it is dangerous to
leave him. Yet when you have
become a disciple, he will do
everything to make you leave
him. He will hold you, but he will
throw you off, if you will let him.
Baba wants you to discard him, if
you can. He will do everything to
make it hard for you to stay. If
you can be thrown off, you will
be thrown off. So, if you read of