Illicit trade in native wildlife - witnesses Ando, Plant, Dawson, Green

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t4/nj CCC MR HALL: Let's listen to 180. COMMISSIONER: 180? MR HALL: 180. 23.11.04 A.G. ANDO XN 131
t5/sa CCC AUDIO TAPE PLAYED TO HEARING MR HALL: That's you and Mr Green speaking?---Yes. All right. You gave a rather knowing laugh after he said he was in the midst of having a good day actually. What did you think he meant by that?---Well, it sounded like - - it sounded like he was in the middle of something because there was a lot of noise in the background and he - - the way he spoke there just sounded like he was cutting me off and he was busy. And I could - - well, yeah, I can imagine obviously there's something - - something going on but I didn't know exactly what except for the information that I received from Malcolm Plant. You must have - - must have at least suspected that the search was, in fact, going on at that time?---Possibly. Yes. Well, this giving Charlie a happy birthday was simply code, wasn't it, to warn him that he was to be searched?---No. We - - there's no codes. You were very insistent about him passing on a message from you to give Charlie a happy birthday - three telephone calls - even though Charlie's birthday was not for several months. Is that what you're telling us?---He - - he's a truck driver and he's hard to get a hold of and I knew he was going over there for a do so I just made sure he - - and that's what I thought it was for. He said he was having a do at Charlie's place. I see. (TO COMMISSIONER): Commissioner, can I tender 199 and 200? COMMISSIONER: Yes. That's KO20 and KO21. EXHIBIT KO20 Mr Hall DATE (Unstated) Audio tape EXHIBIT KO21 Mr Hall DATE (Unstated) Audio tape MR HALL: And 180 is already KO7. COMMISSIONER: K07. Thank you. MR HALL: Did you tell any of your superior officers that you had had communication with Mr Green on this day?---No. After?---No. Why not?---Because I - - I thought it was irrelevant. When I got told by Customs that they were going to do a search on his place within half an hour, you know, that - - that's got nothing - - that's why I tried to keep my distance from it. I 23.11.04 A.G. ANDO XN 132 10.22
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