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Et Alors? Magazine 17

Et Alors? Magazine is an ongoing research project, focused on documenting contemporary queer art and LGBT creativity, solely written and designed by Fleur Pierets & Julian P. Boom. Married and female. By using the conventional magazine format as a creative platform to publish in-depth interviews and positive portraits on musicians, visual artists, writers and performers, they challenge and expand the mainstream understandings on the specific niche of queer art. The project both highlights contemporary artists and the many creative individuals who have put their unique stamp on art history. Et Alors? Magazine is a time document that continually captures the zeitgeist of a changing world, supporting the creation, the research and the development of projects that explore diversity, gender, feminism and queer topics on an optimistic, cultural, artistic and intellectual level.

Et Alors? Magazine is an ongoing research project, focused on documenting contemporary queer art and LGBT creativity, solely written and designed by Fleur Pierets & Julian P. Boom. Married and female. By using the conventional magazine format as a creative platform to publish in-depth interviews and positive portraits on musicians, visual artists, writers and performers, they challenge and expand the mainstream understandings on the specific niche of queer art. The project both highlights contemporary artists and the many creative individuals who have put their unique stamp on art history. Et Alors? Magazine is a time document that continually captures the zeitgeist of a changing world, supporting the creation, the research and the development of projects that explore diversity, gender, feminism and queer topics on an optimistic, cultural, artistic and intellectual level.

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et alors?<br />

a flamboyant queer art magazine


‘By writing portraits<br />

on queer artists, <strong>Et</strong><br />

<strong>Alors</strong>? <strong>Magazine</strong> is<br />

preserving LGBTQ<br />

heritage, both on<br />

a historical and a<br />

contemporary level.’


editorial <strong>17</strong><br />

Comrades,<br />

Identity labels have always been a big issue amongst<br />

sexual and gender minorities. A language matter<br />

that led to the elaborate LGBTQIA, an abbreviation<br />

likely to be often quizzically frowned upon, yet you<br />

cannot blame anyone for trying. Identity labels will<br />

never embrace the complete package and although<br />

we do understand the importance of diversification,<br />

here at <strong>Et</strong> <strong>Alors</strong>? <strong>Magazine</strong> headquarters we’ve chosen<br />

to use the generic term Queer as an umbrella for the<br />

wonderful artists we portrait.<br />

Queer, because we identify ourselves with so much<br />

more than just the L within the summary of capitals.<br />

We’re also women - Caucasian women to be exact -<br />

and we love reading so much our house is smothered<br />

in books. One of us is thinking about buying a drum<br />

kit and the other one is building a photo studio. We<br />

both love to travel and meet people who blow our<br />

minds. We share a dislike for smalltalk. One of us<br />

is a freckled redhead whereas the other one wears<br />

nothing but men’s clothes. We used to live the social<br />

life in Antwerp and Amsterdam but are currently<br />

residing in a small village up on a Spanish mountain.<br />

For now. And yes, we are lesbians, yet consider that<br />

a small part of the complete package that comes<br />

with being the individuals we are. However, we feel<br />

comfortable with the term Queer. The adjective that<br />

stands for – among many other meanings – atypical,<br />

singular, funny and different. And don’t you just love<br />

the sexy w-intonation just behind the q.?<br />

Hence, queer. Like the unconventional work of<br />

writer, public speaker and performer Ivan E. Coyote<br />

who considers themselves a gender failure. Or the<br />

outlandish and remarkable creations of visual artist<br />

Bubi Canal, that carry you along into this magical<br />

world filled with vivid creatures in geometric<br />

shapes and powerful imagery. The unorthodox charity<br />

organization ‘Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence’, using<br />

flamboyant make-up and costumes to underline their<br />

roles as gender activists, their fight against sexual<br />

intolerance and their rebellion against religion.<br />

Square Zair Pair, the funny and extraordinary children’s<br />

‘We’ve chosen to<br />

use the generic<br />

term Queer as an<br />

umbrella for the<br />

wonderful artists<br />

we portrait.’<br />

book about celebrating the diversity of couples in a<br />

community, written by Jase Peeples. An untypical<br />

photo series by Belle Ancell, a photographer who<br />

uses her work to give back to her peers. The eccentric<br />

and ‘all out’ rapper Solomon Ray and the mysterious<br />

Virgin Xtravaganzah, who thinks that if you’re set<br />

out not to be prejudiced, it wouldn’t matter whether<br />

you’re a Catholic, a Muslim or a Buddhist. Because<br />

we should actually all get along.<br />

All of them artists who have two things in common;<br />

they explore diversity, gender, feminism and LGBT<br />

topics on a cultural, artistic and intellectual level,<br />

and we chose them to be featured in the <strong>17</strong>th issue<br />

of our flamboyant queer art magazine. Enjoy!<br />

Keep safe, stay gorgeous.<br />

Love,<br />

Fleur & Julian<br />

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et alors? magazine<br />

march 2016<br />

issue <strong>17</strong><br />

Text & research<br />

Fleur Pierets<br />

Artwork & layout<br />

Julian P. Boom<br />

Contributors<br />

Belle Ancell<br />

Bubi Canal<br />

Christine Knopp<br />

Daniel Peace<br />

Ellie Van Den Brande<br />

JD Forte<br />

Jourdan Tymkow<br />

Studio Prokopiou<br />

table of contents<br />

Editorial<br />

Table of contents<br />

Bubi Canal<br />

Square Zair Pair<br />

Ivan E. Coyote<br />

Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence<br />

Unveiled<br />

Solomon Ray<br />

Virgin Xtravaganzah<br />

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www.etalorsmagazine.com<br />

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fleur & julian say thanks to<br />

Bubi Canal<br />

Tracy Atkins<br />

Renate Breuer<br />

Ingrid Van Den Bossche<br />

<strong>Et</strong> <strong>Alors</strong>? <strong>Magazine</strong> is an ongoing<br />

research project, focused on<br />

documenting contemporary<br />

queer art and LGBT creativity,<br />

solely written and designed by<br />

Fleur Pierets & Julian P. Boom.<br />

Married and female. By using the<br />

conventional magazine format<br />

as a creative platform to publish<br />

in-depth interviews and positive<br />

portraits on musicians, visual<br />

artists, writers and performers,<br />

they challenge and expand the<br />

mainstream understandings<br />

on the specific niche of queer<br />

art. The project both highlights<br />

contemporary artists and the<br />

many creative individuals who<br />

have put their unique stamp on<br />

art history. <strong>Et</strong> <strong>Alors</strong>? <strong>Magazine</strong> is<br />

a time document that continually<br />

captures the zeitgeist of a<br />

changing world, supporting the<br />

creation, the research and<br />

the development of projects<br />

that explore diversity, gender,<br />

feminism and queer topics on an<br />

optimistic, cultural, artistic and<br />

intellectual level.<br />

Subscribe to our quarterly<br />

newsletter, submit your work or<br />

just say hello at<br />

info@etalorsmagazine.com<br />

cover<br />

Artwork Bubi Canal<br />

Location New York, US<br />

Talents Visual artist<br />

Website www.bubicanal.com<br />

© All material in this magazine is copyrighted as indicated.<br />

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© Bubi Canal, Emotive Space 2015


ubi<br />

canal<br />

interview fleur pierets


Surrealism meets objet trouvé, meets performance art<br />

and photography. The art of Bubi Canal includes many<br />

disciplines, yet its common thread is the ability to make<br />

you happy. His work is positive, colorful and carries you<br />

along into this magical world filled with vivid creatures<br />

in geometric shapes and powerful imagery. Here is a<br />

glimpse into the disarming universe of Bubi Canal.<br />

You’re originally from Spain, but moved to New<br />

York?<br />

I was born in Santander, Spain, and met my husband<br />

Paul—who is American—in 2010 when I was living<br />

in Madrid. I ended up moving to New York in 2011.<br />

I can’t say it’s been easy to start over. I didn’t know<br />

where to find a photo studio and didn’t have any<br />

friends. But, New York is an inspiring place to live as<br />

an artist. People are very open and it’s a comfortable<br />

place to share your work.<br />

Your work hardly has any reference to current<br />

hypes or trends.<br />

My work represents a fantasy world, a universe where<br />

magic happens and where the sun always shines. It’s<br />

about what I feel and love, so you could say it’s a<br />

projection of my emotions. I’m an optimist and want<br />

that to be reflected in my work. My work changes<br />

as I evolve. It reflects the changes that happen in<br />

my life, like my interest in new technologies. I love<br />

applying their capabilities into my work.<br />

You work with the people and objects that<br />

surround you.<br />

My ideas are simple, and I find the most practical<br />

way to execute them within my means. I use myself<br />

or my friends as models, I shoot mostly in my<br />

neighborhood and my sculptures are made of plastic<br />

toys and found items. My work is an extension of<br />

my life. I can be inspired by a person, location or<br />

garment, for example. I’m always checking second<br />

hand shops for pieces I can use.<br />

What inspires you?<br />

Being open to intuition, ideas for my work come<br />

quite easily to me. I wait and see what comes up.<br />

I feel a connection to Japanese culture; I used to<br />

watch a lot of Japanese TV shows while growing up<br />

in Spain. I’m also a huge fan of Michael Jackson—his<br />

work inspires me tremendously.<br />

What’s your work method?<br />

I don’t have an image in mind at the beginning. I<br />

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© Bubi Canal, Special Moment 2013


© Bubi Canal, Chrystelle II 2013


© Bubi Canal, Bubi Canal Team 2015


© Bubi Canal, Our Dreams Are Our Real Life 2011


‘I enjoy<br />

myself and<br />

see where<br />

it goes from<br />

there.’<br />

start working with a blank slate, so the end result<br />

is usually surprising to me. I enjoy myself and see<br />

where it goes from there. At times, I’ll start working<br />

on something and don’t even know what shape it<br />

will take. The end result could be an object in itself,<br />

or become a prop for a photo. Sometimes the idea<br />

turns out to be about movement, and then I’ll take it<br />

into the realm of video.<br />

You must have a lot of fun.<br />

I do. I look for the easiest way to create my work, so<br />

the process remains enjoyable while being effective.<br />

How did your first solo show in New York come<br />

to be?<br />

My work was featured as part of a group show titled<br />

Psychopomp, which was curated by Alberto Cortés<br />

and showed at the Munch Gallery in Manhattan’s<br />

Lower East Side. Gallerist Lillan Munch, the owner<br />

of the venue, asked if I’d be interested in doing a<br />

solo show. That led to Special Moment, my first solo<br />

show in New York. I was looking forward to people’s<br />

reactions, which were positive. I’m currently working<br />

on a new exhibition for the Digitaliseum gallery in<br />

Malmo, Sweden, as well as a publication about my<br />

work, with text by Jorge Clar, for Pupa Press.<br />

What’s your biggest dream?<br />

To inspire in the same way I’ve been inspired by<br />

the work of others. Ideally, my creations could be a<br />

catalyst for positivity.<br />

www.bubicanal.com<br />

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© Christine Knopp


square<br />

zair<br />

pair<br />

interview fleur pierets


Square Zair Pair is an LGBT themed children’s book about<br />

celebrating the diversity of couples in a community. The<br />

story takes place in the magical land of Hanamandoo, a<br />

place where square and round Zairs live. Zairs do all things<br />

in pairs, one round with one square. But one day when<br />

two square Zairs pair for the first time, the village initially<br />

rejects them before learning a lesson in kindness and<br />

acceptance – ultimately realizing different pairs of Zairs<br />

make their village stronger. In conversation with writer and<br />

The Advocate journalist, Jase Peeples.<br />

Why write a children’s book?<br />

Years ago, a friend of mine told me that he and<br />

his husband were having trouble finding children’s<br />

picture books with positive LGBT themes they could<br />

share with their daughter so I wanted to help. Square<br />

Zair Pair is about these creatures that come in two<br />

shapes, round and square. In this magical land that<br />

they live in, they always pair up as one round with<br />

one square. The story is about what happens to the<br />

village when one day two square Zairs pair up, and<br />

they mistreat this brand new couple they have never<br />

seen before. Ultimately, it’s a story that accentuates<br />

the possible differences between couples.<br />

The Zairs don’t have a gender. Was that important?<br />

It was very important to me to have the Zairs free<br />

from gender, because traditional gender identities<br />

bring with them a lot of preconceived notions and<br />

assumption. I wanted to highlight how much we<br />

love to focus on sexuality and gender by removing<br />

it from the equation. When we replace the concepts<br />

of sexuality and gender with two very basic shapes,<br />

round and square, the ridiculousness of arguments<br />

against same-sex couples becomes even more<br />

apparent.<br />

And not writing about sexuality makes it more<br />

accessible for children, no doubt.<br />

Absolutely. Sexuality is indeed never specifically<br />

stated in the book. Instead I used an allegory, which<br />

is a much easier thing to digest, even for someone<br />

who may have reservations about such a story being<br />

read to children. I aimed for 6 to 10 years of age but<br />

I’ve had the honor of reading it to much younger<br />

children and they seem very captivated by it. People<br />

are very receptive.<br />

Did you have books like that, when you were young?<br />

As the son of a librarian, picture books were a very<br />

important part of my experience in how I saw the<br />

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world as a young child. However, there were never<br />

any stories that positively highlighted the ways in<br />

which I was different as a gay person. And as I got<br />

older I realized there really weren’t many books with<br />

a narrative on different types of families. It’s my hope<br />

that Square Zair Pair can help both young people<br />

who feel they are different, and those who may<br />

come from same-sex families. I hope it can become<br />

an instrument to help realize their differences should<br />

be celebrated, regardless of whom they “pair” with.<br />

How’s the atmosphere in the US when it comes to<br />

LGBT themed books?<br />

When it comes to children’s books it’s a growing<br />

field. You see them more and more these days, but<br />

it’s still an issue that same-sex couples or families<br />

with same-sex parents are seen as “different.” So<br />

I think there’s a lot more work to be done. I would<br />

love for a book like this to be in every school, to be<br />

a part of the curriculum, especially for younger kids.<br />

I would love for it to be a part of ‘Spirit Day’, which<br />

is a day we celebrate to raise awareness against<br />

bullying. I think it’s a perfect tool for a curriculum<br />

that embraces that day and that message all year<br />

round.<br />

Next to being an author, you’re also a journalist<br />

for The Advocate, the oldest and largest LGBT<br />

publication in the United States.<br />

I’ve been with The Advocate for about 5 years<br />

now. I love being part of that voice and I love<br />

highlighting some issues that perhaps other people<br />

in journalism wouldn’t think twice about. When I<br />

wake up in the morning it’s comforting to go to an<br />

office where things that are important to the LGBT<br />

community are discussed, and I love the ways in<br />

which we are aiming to encompass more than just<br />

that group; fighting for rights for women, or for<br />

people of color for example. All these things are<br />

part of our community as well, no matter where we<br />

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© Christine Knopp


come from, who we are, whom we love or what we<br />

look like.<br />

‘Be patient and<br />

trust yourself.<br />

Look for others<br />

who are like you<br />

and don’t get<br />

caught up so<br />

much on those<br />

who aren’t.’<br />

What are the significant changes in LGBT rights<br />

that happened over those 5 years?<br />

When I started at The Advocate we did not even<br />

have marriage equality in the state of California, but<br />

today we have marriage equality on a federal level.<br />

I think that’s one of the biggest things. But there<br />

is also the changing landscape of entertainment,<br />

the increase of our visibility and representation in<br />

Hollywood. We are seeing more LGBT characters<br />

and story lines on prime time television that are<br />

seen in millions of homes across America. I know we<br />

can continue to change the world for LGBT people<br />

and I’m trying to do what I can to aid that cause as a<br />

part of The Advocate team.<br />

You won the “Journalist of the Year” 2013/14<br />

award. That’s quite something.<br />

It was a surprise and a wonderful honor. I thought<br />

that was such a marvelous reminder of how much<br />

the world is changing and taking LGBT stories<br />

seriously.<br />

Will you continue writing children’s books?<br />

I’d love to continue writing children’s books. Square<br />

Zair Pair has been in the making for a few years now<br />

so I’m very happy it is finally seeing the light of day.<br />

I’m looking forward to pushing that a little further<br />

for the next year and if the time is right after that for<br />

another book, absolutely!<br />

If you could talk to your younger self, what would<br />

you say?<br />

I would say to be patient and trust yourself. Look<br />

for others who are like you and don’t get caught up<br />

so much on those who aren’t. Believe in yourself<br />

and just keep the faith. It’s easy to get absorbed<br />

in the things that aren’t working, but if we take<br />

a look at how they can work and how they can be<br />

better, especially when we’re younger and we have<br />

something to look up to and inspire us, then we’re<br />

all going to be ok. And that’s exactly why I wrote<br />

Square Zair Pair. This book is what I wished I had<br />

when I was younger.<br />

Square Zair Pair written by Jase Peeples with art by<br />

Christine Knopp. The book is available in hardcover<br />

and in eBook form for Kindle via Amazon.com<br />

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© Jourdan Tymkow


ivan e.<br />

coyote<br />

interview fleur pierets


On the day of this interview, New York passed a civil<br />

rights law that requires all single-users restrooms to be<br />

gender neutral. A decision of great impact on the daily<br />

reality of trans people and a life-changing event for Ivan<br />

E. Coyote. The award-winning author, renowned performer<br />

and lecturer considers themselves a gender failure;<br />

failing the gender binary which has equally failed them. A<br />

conversation about language, engaging with an audience,<br />

using the pronoun ‘they’, and toxic masculinity.<br />

You stated, “I have failed the gender binary and it<br />

has failed me”. Can you elaborate?<br />

The gender binary is one of the most effective power<br />

structures ever created and is used to perpetrate<br />

horrible things upon each other. The process of<br />

indoctrination begins as soon as the parents find out<br />

what the gender of their child is. They literally start<br />

talking differently, using a different tone of voice,<br />

and expecting different things from boys and girls.<br />

Meanwhile there is so much more to the reality of<br />

gender than just men and women and there always<br />

has been some version of people like me in every<br />

culture. If we acknowledge that fact and respect<br />

it, the whole thing will break down. We would be<br />

chipping away at the foundation of one of the biggest<br />

systems that we use to oppress people and especially<br />

women. Because even in so-called westernized<br />

societies, we still socialize young women differently,<br />

we still tell them what they can and cannot do. I<br />

don’t have all the answers, but what I do know is that<br />

more and more people are emboldened to come out<br />

of the gender closet and that I am a problem that is<br />

not going away. So if we, as a society, say that we<br />

have human rights for everyone, then we have to<br />

decide what that means and act upon it. It’s going to<br />

be good in the long run; it will make the world fairer,<br />

more truthful and more authentic.<br />

What changes do we have to make in order to<br />

create such an ideal world?<br />

One of the things we need to do in order to make a<br />

better world and in order to completely allow people<br />

to express who their real true self is, is unraveling<br />

the concept of unexamined toxic masculinity. It’s<br />

poisoning our society, and some of the biggest<br />

sufferers under that regime are men and boys.<br />

They are expected to perform this ideal masculine<br />

dance that is both not possible and not healthy, but<br />

still we continue to put that unrealistic nonsense<br />

in – for example - movies. A man has big muscles,<br />

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‘I know I can only<br />

affect my little corner<br />

of things, and part<br />

of that is fighting for<br />

my own human right<br />

to just be, and to go<br />

through the world.<br />

Step by step.’<br />

fires guns and gets the girl in the end. Our boys are<br />

lost with those kind of role models. If we take that<br />

apart, and give women the right to their own bodies<br />

and education, a lot of things would change. I’m not<br />

interested in a gender revolution just so we can all<br />

wear what we want, that would be a nice byproduct,<br />

but I’m talking about liberation for women and men<br />

and everyone else. I’m not even sure if I can wrap my<br />

mind around how fundamental a change that would<br />

be. I know I can only affect my little corner of things,<br />

and part of that is fighting for my own human right<br />

to just be, and to go through the world. Step by step.<br />

Is your personal use of the pronoun ‘they’ a part of<br />

those steps?<br />

‘They’ is the pronoun I feel most comfortable with.<br />

Is it perfect for me? No. For years I struggled using<br />

the pronoun ‘she’ because that’s what I was raised up<br />

with. It’s hard to describe how uncomfortable that<br />

feels if you have never experienced it. In my book<br />

Gender Failure I try to describe it as somehow being<br />

carved away at. Often, the media can only understand<br />

trans people if they still “fit”: Trans people are all right<br />

as long as they look like Caitlyn Jenner and the only<br />

thing they want is to become a woman. I don’t want<br />

to be a man but don’t feel like a woman either, and<br />

that’s a difficult place to be in, yet that is my authentic<br />

self and there is nothing harder than spending an<br />

entire lifetime trying to cover up your authentic<br />

self. Using ‘they’ was not an easy decision to make<br />

and it still isn’t, because after 11 books, multiple<br />

awards, 3 films and 6 live shows, some people still<br />

reduce me to nothing but a pronoun. They’re falling<br />

back on these grammar rules, which are not even<br />

actually correct since the use of ‘they’ as a singular<br />

pronoun goes back to the 16th century, to Chaucer<br />

and Shakespeare, who both employed it. Language<br />

changes all the time to incorporate the people who<br />

are utilizing it. And that’s what it’s supposed to do.<br />

15 years ago ‘Google’ was not even a verb or a word.<br />

Now we’re using it all the time and it’s even in the<br />

dictionary. It’s been incorporated because there was<br />

a need for it. So I’m sure that when somebody really<br />

digs their heels in, it’s not actually grammar that is<br />

the problem. They are resisting that change because<br />

it makes them uncomfortable, and it has nothing to<br />

do with language.<br />

You are called a queer author, does that match<br />

with how you identify?<br />

I’m situated in an interesting place on the gender<br />

spectrum but when I speak to people to whom my<br />

work resonates, it’s often about much more than<br />

just the queer themes. I also write about working<br />

class dynamics, for example, or about big families, or<br />

about the Yukon, where I come from. All those things<br />

are an important part of who I am. But I do mostly<br />

write things that are drawn from personal life, which<br />

obviously colors and flavors my non-fiction work.<br />

It wouldn’t be accurate to remove myself from<br />

those experiences but labels tend to limit both our<br />

readership and us. What makes me want to write<br />

is the ability to increase the narrative. To put more<br />

stories about queer life out there, about those of us<br />

who don’t really align with the gender binary. At the<br />

same time I resist being put in a box. I’m a writer.<br />

Period. There is a place where those labels cease to<br />

be effective but if I’m only writing stories for queer<br />

people, it’s not going to increase us being understood<br />

by those who are not exactly like us.<br />

Is that the reason why your prose is very<br />

accessible?<br />

I don’t know, I think it’s just my style, my nature as<br />

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an Tymkow


‘I realize that a<br />

lot of people are<br />

never moved by<br />

their every day<br />

job so I try to be<br />

grateful.’<br />

a writer. I was an electrician while I was working on<br />

my earlier writing career so I don’t consider myself<br />

an intellectual. I’m a storyteller. My aim is to have<br />

things resonate with people so that they can find<br />

some personal truth, some way of relating it back<br />

to their own story. Dressing it up and making it<br />

complicated, especially when it doesn’t need to be,<br />

is not engaging. All that intellectualized stuff would<br />

get in the way of the level of engagement that I am<br />

looking for in a reader.<br />

Is performing a way to be closer to your readers?<br />

I started live storytelling before I got published so<br />

it was always a part of my art practice. Sometimes<br />

when I pick the right story, in the right order, in the<br />

right place and I approach it with the right heart,<br />

I have these moments of spiritual connection<br />

between the audience and myself. You can have<br />

this moment of looking inside each other’s hearts –<br />

seeing a glimmer of the true humanity of the other<br />

person. It doesn’t happen all the time but those<br />

moments are pretty magical. I realize that a lot of<br />

people are never moved by their every day job so I<br />

try to be grateful.<br />

What’s your motivation for speaking in high<br />

schools?<br />

One of my main motivators for speaking in public<br />

high schools is because my cousin Christopher, who<br />

I was really close to growing up, committed suicide<br />

when he was 21. I think he was gay, but we don’t<br />

know and we will never know, but he was a misfit<br />

and was horrifically bullied all the way through<br />

school. I think it’s very important to talk about how<br />

we treat each other and how that affects us. I know<br />

that’s hard to believe when you’re 15 years old, but<br />

all those things don’t disappear when you graduate.<br />

It’s a moment in our lives where we’re learning to<br />

believe or not believe in ourselves, it’s the moment<br />

when we decide if we matter. So I try to have a one<br />

on one about school bullying and respect on a Friday<br />

afternoon, in a gymnasium of 600 kids with the<br />

attention span of a music video. I can tell you; it’s<br />

not a job for the faint of heart.<br />

You are a role model for many; did you have one<br />

when you were younger?<br />

Not exactly, but there were a lot of woman in my<br />

family who challenged the rigid ‘70’s gender box<br />

and therefore inspired me as a young human. Yet if<br />

I have to name someone, it would be Annie Lennox<br />

doing her Elvis drag at the Grammy’s in 1984. It got<br />

me on another planet.<br />

What would you say to a young kid who looks up<br />

to you?<br />

I have struggled with depression my entire life and<br />

one of the things that gets me through the harder<br />

days is knowing that these things cycle in and cycle<br />

out. And things get better when you actively work to<br />

make them better; when you seek out a community<br />

or build a community, when you take action. I tell kids<br />

at school that art, writing and music got me through<br />

school and through life. You need to seek the things<br />

that make you feel good. You need to seek them out<br />

and you need to do them, and then you need to do<br />

them again. Not because you want to be the best<br />

but because the act of doing them is life affirming,<br />

constructive, therapeutic and joyous. Feeling good<br />

comes with a qualification and it involves some work<br />

on your part.<br />

www.ivanecoyote.com<br />

Ivan has a new book, Tomboy Survival Guide (based on<br />

the stage show) coming out with Arsenal in Fall 2016.<br />

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sisters of<br />

perpetual<br />

indulgence<br />

interview fleur pierets<br />

photos belle ancell


Early 1940: the U.S. military dishonorably discharged<br />

thousands of gay servicemen in San Francisco during World<br />

War II because of their sexuality. Many settled in the area<br />

now known as The Castro District when the former middleclass<br />

owners fled to the suburbs, leaving large amounts of<br />

attractive real estate open. The Castro’s first gay bar, the<br />

‘Missouri Mule’, opened in 1963 and the neighborhood grew<br />

to become an upscale, fashionable urban center in the 1970s.<br />

Activist Harvey Milk opened a camera store and the district<br />

turned into a thriving marketplace for all things gay.<br />

In 1980, the area was hit hard by the AIDS crisis<br />

and a small group of gay men started to wear<br />

nuns’ attires in public situations, hereby attracting<br />

attention to social problems in their neighborhood<br />

and to heckled the weekly church members who<br />

saw it as their duty to come over and preach about<br />

the immorality of homosexuality. Herb Caen from<br />

The San Francisco Chronicle printed their name<br />

when they organized their first fundraiser and the<br />

Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence became a fact. Over<br />

the years their appearance has changed: the 14th<br />

century Belgian nun’s theme remains the same but<br />

they’ve added flamboyant make-up and costumes<br />

to underline their roles as gender activists, sexual<br />

intolerance and their rebellion against religion.<br />

Since the Sisters’ formation in ’79, this non-profit<br />

charity organization raises over $40.000 per year<br />

for AIDS and LGBT related causes, and is globally<br />

represented with over 600 members, going by<br />

names such as Sister Florence Nightmare and<br />

Sister Angelina Holi. Interested in joining? Sister<br />

Alma Bitches, president of the Vancouver Sisters<br />

of Perpetual Indulgence, tells you how.<br />

How did you get involved with the Sisters?<br />

I once went to one of their bingos during a Bear<br />

event in San Francisco. It was probably one of<br />

the most fun times I’ve ever had at that point in<br />

my life so I needed to know more about them.<br />

What really made an impression on me was that<br />

these guys had this hairy, bearded masculine look<br />

and yet they were wearing all this make-up and<br />

colorful veils. For some reason I thought that was<br />

pretty awesome. When I looked them up I found<br />

out that they were all about charity, which fitted<br />

me perfectly because I was searching for a way to<br />

do things for my community. It may sound cheesy,<br />

but I wanted to make the world a better place.<br />

The moment the Sisters originated in Vancouver, I<br />

joined them.<br />

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It’s quite a process to become a member.<br />

There are four levels to membership over a<br />

minimum of one year to become a fully processed<br />

member. Everybody is welcome to join up as what<br />

we call an Aspirant. You meet with our Mistress of<br />

Novices who answers all the questions you might<br />

have, and you have to formally introduce yourself<br />

at our business meeting. That’s fun because we all<br />

applaud for you. As an Aspirant you’re not expected<br />

to do anything but to come with us to events and to<br />

observe the Sisters in action. On that level you can<br />

decide if you are actually seeing yourself doing this.<br />

After two months you become a Postulant. We vote<br />

you in as a probationary member of our charitable<br />

society. We give you a member’s handbook and ask<br />

you to start thinking about a name, as you have to<br />

come up with a unique name that’s never been used<br />

before. You’re required to come to a certain amount<br />

of events and help out. You’re still not supposed to<br />

come out with our signature white face, until you’ve<br />

reached the next level four months later, when we<br />

vote you in as a Novice member. As a Novice you<br />

can either become a Sister or - if the make-up and<br />

dressing up doesn’t appeal to you - you can become<br />

what’s known as in Vancouver as a Paladin, meaning<br />

warrior of light. In six months time you have to plan a<br />

Novice project, an event that you have to execute to<br />

the best of your ability. Yet if you’re not passionate<br />

about throwing parties or events, you have to come<br />

up with a project that helps the Sisters raise their<br />

visibility. You are allowed to wear the headpiece<br />

but only with a white veil, that’s how you can be<br />

distinguished from a full member who wears colors.<br />

After one year you set up your resume and we put<br />

you up for consideration. Our first reverent mother<br />

here in Vancouver was really great because she<br />

never wanted to get anyone to that voting meeting<br />

without them knowing that they were going to be<br />

successful. We kept this a positive and respectful<br />

tradition.<br />

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‘Everybody is<br />

welcome to try.<br />

As long as we<br />

respect where<br />

everybody is<br />

coming from,<br />

then we should<br />

be able to do<br />

what we do.’<br />

Why such a strict policy?<br />

We never call people and ask if they want to<br />

become a Sister, it’s something that you are called<br />

to do. People want to join in but they have no idea<br />

how much work it is and how much time you have<br />

to put into it. We have to follow very strict rules<br />

from our government because we are a charitable<br />

society within this country. We do have quite a few<br />

rules about conduct and as a member you have to<br />

support the mission at all times and to the best of<br />

your ability. The Vancouver Sisters take their duty<br />

very seriously. I for example, like most of my fellow<br />

members, don’t drink or do drugs but like to do our<br />

work with a clear head. Even if you have a Facebook<br />

account that’s dedicated to your Sister’s persona,<br />

you cannot complain or be negative, since one of<br />

our missions is to spread universal joy. We’re always<br />

very conscious about things like that.<br />

What are your charitable causes?<br />

Our main goal is to support those living with HIV<br />

and to stop the spread of the disease, which ties<br />

us into the worldwide Sisters mission. But we also<br />

try to abolish homelessness, since that’s a great<br />

issue in Vancouver. We give money to the MAP<br />

Van, a project that for seven nights a week provides<br />

outreach services to women working on the street.<br />

Their purpose is to increase sex working women’s<br />

health and safety, particularly in those areas where<br />

there are few or no services open late at night.<br />

We have the HUSTLE program, a health initiative<br />

for male and trans sex workers, we have school<br />

programs in rural communities where they give<br />

talks on homophobia. You can see why we have a<br />

lot of money to raise.<br />

Are there enough members for this amount of<br />

work?<br />

I’ve been around for 5 years now and there was<br />

a time where only 3 of us went out every night,<br />

working the doors at nightclubs, organizing events.<br />

As you can imagine that was pretty tough. Currently<br />

we’re at 12 full members but unfortunately a lot of<br />

people move away because Vancouver is a very<br />

expensive city to live in. That’s just one of those<br />

things. But on the other hand it’s not all bad because<br />

we are sending people with these amazing hearts to<br />

places where they have maybe never heard of the<br />

Sisters or where there’s an abbey trying to get off<br />

the ground. We’re sending them a member to the<br />

rescue.<br />

You had a female member in Vancouver. Is that<br />

something you encourage?<br />

People are always shocked when they find out that<br />

not only men can be Sisters. It’s probably 90% gay<br />

men, but there are also trans Sisters, female Sisters<br />

and non-binary Sisters. Everybody is welcome<br />

to try. As long as we respect where everybody is<br />

coming from, then we should be able to do what we<br />

do. The female Vancouver Sister for example was a<br />

Muslim and she probably has no idea just how much<br />

she has taught me about what Muslims are like or<br />

could be like. All I knew was what was on the news<br />

so I never thought they would join a group of gay<br />

men, or support something queer. It’s always more<br />

productive to welcome people and learn something<br />

about them, than to judge them because they are<br />

different. The Sisters are all about being different so<br />

who are we to criticize?<br />

www.yvrsisters.blogspot.com<br />

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unveiled<br />

interview fleur pierets<br />

photos belle ancell


Belle Ancell is a queer community photographer living<br />

in Canada. Amongst her series there is “Unveiled”,<br />

portraits of the Vancouver Sisters of Perpetual<br />

Indulgence. In-depth photographs and representations<br />

of people who are, just like Belle herself, looking for a<br />

way to give back to and to strengthen their community.<br />

Why choose the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence<br />

as a subject?<br />

Because they are so beautiful. I used to see them<br />

around and at first I thought they were drag<br />

queens, or performers, clowns. I didn’t realize<br />

they were philanthropists who contribute a lot<br />

of their time and money to the community. As an<br />

order, they take their commitment very seriously<br />

and are actually taking vows for life. I just wanted<br />

to do something to honor them because I don’t<br />

think a lot of people understand who they are and<br />

the importance of what they are doing. At least I<br />

didn’t.<br />

Are you a part of the order?<br />

They made me an Angel. An Angel is someone<br />

who, in some way, has contributed to the Sisters<br />

of Perpetual Indulgence. It’s an honorary title and<br />

a way for them to thank me for the project and the<br />

portraits.<br />

The project is your way of giving back to the<br />

community, can you elaborate?<br />

It’s to give back, to highlight and to acknowledge<br />

certain aspects. I love my community and I truly<br />

think there’s not enough imagery out there that is<br />

positive and beautiful. I want to put that out into<br />

the world by documenting our lives. I didn’t know<br />

anything about queer history when I was younger.<br />

Not via schools, not anywhere. Now, as I’m getting<br />

older, I’m starting to learn more about the activists<br />

that paved the way for me to sit at my job and be<br />

completely ‘out’, to be queer and feel more or less<br />

safe. So yes, I think it’s important because there is<br />

still so much work to be done.<br />

Talking in terms of ‘we’ is a very recent<br />

development since you didn’t come out until you<br />

were 32 years old?<br />

And until then I had absolutely no idea. I was 32,<br />

living in a tiny town in Canada where there was<br />

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‘I feel like it’s my purpose to use this<br />

gift of photography to make all the<br />

wonderful things that happen in our<br />

community common good. Yes, these<br />

personal projects are definitely the<br />

core of who I am.’<br />

nothing but stigma, negativity and homophobia.<br />

There was no queer content available in the late<br />

‘80’s, nor were there any movies or TV-shows on<br />

the subject matter. I didn’t know where to find the<br />

reading material and the Internet wasn’t as evolved<br />

as it is now, so there was absolutely no way for me<br />

to find those queer artists. I slowly clued in via a<br />

same-sex couple that moved into my village. All of a<br />

sudden it just clicked. So I can say it took me a while<br />

to wake up. I wasn’t self aware and very, very much<br />

in denial.<br />

And all of a sudden you find yourself in a<br />

community.<br />

I feel so fortunate; I wouldn’t change this for<br />

anything. We’re minorities, however you interpret<br />

it, so we look out for each other and support each<br />

other. We have our own culture, art, music, and it’s<br />

an amazing feeling to be part of that kind of queer<br />

movement.<br />

You use the word queer. What’s your personal<br />

definition of the word?<br />

I discovered the word queer about 15 years ago<br />

and it just clicked. To me it’s everything I am. I’m<br />

not lesbian or gay; I’m queer. Finding the exact<br />

language to describe your community is an ongoing<br />

discussion, but I feel confident with the word. That<br />

some older people feel uncomfortable with the<br />

term - because it was used violently against them<br />

– is something I try to respect in our conversations.<br />

But it’s evolving every day, everything is changing,<br />

language is changing and I’m open to everyone’s<br />

perspective. There are a lot of people who are<br />

working hard to make space for everyone and trying<br />

to find the right language and even working on their<br />

own prejudices. Because we’re all human and we all<br />

have misconceptions. It’s an evolution and we all<br />

need to be open to listening and caring.<br />

What would you like to achieve with your work?<br />

I’d like to be remembered for contributing to the<br />

community. Documenting it, showing the beauty<br />

of the community, the challenges. I’m currently<br />

working on a series called ‘Aging Out’ and it’s<br />

about LGBT elders and the unique challenges they<br />

face as they age. People are starting to realize the<br />

value of connecting with our past. We need that.<br />

Recently I was at a circle with LGBT people from all<br />

different ages, ranging from 20 to 70 years old, and<br />

we all told our coming out story. It was exciting to<br />

discover that although there were differences, there<br />

were also many commonalities. I feel like it’s my<br />

purpose to use this gift of photography to make all<br />

the wonderful things that happen in our community<br />

common good. Yes, these personal projects are<br />

definitely the core of who I am.<br />

www.belleancell.com<br />

049


solomon<br />

ray<br />

interview fleur pierets<br />

photos jd forte


In 2008, Solomon Ray released two street mixtapes<br />

that got him invited to Eminem’s radio show, Shade 45,<br />

on Sirius XM. What followed was a huge Internet buzz,<br />

a large amount of followers from all over the world and<br />

more than ten thousand copies sold. Several EP’s later<br />

the rapper came out with Le Garçon, greeted by iTunes as<br />

one of 2014’s “best new releases by a new artist” and the<br />

first single landed Vevo’s top five of R&B songs. Despite<br />

his success and positive feedback, the artist announced<br />

his retirement, due to depression, on Facebook. But last<br />

month he released a beautiful cover of Beck’s Guess I’m<br />

doing fine so it looks like Solomon Ray is back!<br />

What made you decide to come back?<br />

Creativity. You cannot tell an artist not to create and<br />

you can’t take a break from something that you<br />

love. Ultimately it was my love for music and the<br />

notion that we are placed on this earth for a reason<br />

that wanted me to reengage. So I tuned out all the<br />

superficial stuff that I kept seeing and moved on.<br />

Stuff like what?<br />

I’m an artist who identifies himself with what he<br />

makes. Which makes me quite sensitive about my<br />

work. I think I got to a point in my life where I got<br />

depressed because I didn’t see where I was going<br />

and let outside influences dictate how I felt. I started<br />

to constantly focus on how someone else had more<br />

advantages than me. After a while it became so<br />

depressing and stifling that I needed a break.<br />

Did it have something to do with your coming out?<br />

If you asked me this question four years ago I would’ve<br />

said yes and my response would be that I probably<br />

would not have told anybody that I was gay. Now I<br />

realize it was never really a choice because this is who<br />

I am. Now I have this “I don’t give a fuck about pretty<br />

much,” attitude so I would never be silent about it.<br />

I can imagine it’s quite challenging, being gay in<br />

the rapper scene.<br />

Being in this industry since 2008, you can feel a glass<br />

ceiling when you’re gay. It’s something that I’m aware<br />

of, yet I try not to give it too much weight. I’m also<br />

aware that it’s even harder for other people because<br />

I do know that it’s still a stigma to be gay in the black<br />

community. If you’re a gay rapper then you are already<br />

fighting against a lot of prejudices, but if you’re a gay<br />

rapper and you’re black and you live in America, then<br />

that really works against you. I’m a mixture of black and<br />

white so visually I can slide in. But there are a bunch<br />

of extremely talented men who don’t get the same<br />

attention as I do because of their color.<br />

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‘I know that I’m going to be taken<br />

care of and as long as I trust that<br />

instinct, everything will be ok.’<br />

What’s the main difference between the moment<br />

of your retirement and now?<br />

When it comes to music, the difference is that<br />

I don’t use rules anymore. I don’t hold on to<br />

formats in songwriting. Those formats are great<br />

because they are catchy but I try to use a different<br />

approach. The big personal difference is that I don’t<br />

stress as much anymore because I learned that my<br />

art and my gift is none of my business. It’s been<br />

given to me so it’s my purpose in life. I know that<br />

I’m going to be taken care of and as long as I trust<br />

that instinct, everything will be ok. Stepping into<br />

a new project with that mindset is very freeing. It<br />

literally allows me to be myself. Before I was afraid<br />

to be outspoken, to speak up. Now I don’t really<br />

care about the small things anymore.<br />

Do you still care if people like your work?<br />

It’s always nice when people like something<br />

you’ve made, if they identify with it or find a story<br />

to connect with. I love that. But if they don’t like<br />

it, than that’s also fine. If they are not coming to<br />

concerts or if they are not buying my records, I<br />

don’t really have the space in my life to care about<br />

them. Everybody should get to a point where they<br />

realize that people’s opinions about what you are<br />

wearing, how you are doing your hair, who you’re<br />

sleeping with, doesn’t really matter if they’re not<br />

paying your bills or have a huge influence on your<br />

livelihood.<br />

How about future dreams?<br />

I’ve already accomplished what I wanted. As a<br />

creative person I don’t care what it does, where it<br />

goes. I just need to make something. If I have an<br />

idea in my mind, all I’m trying to do is to get that<br />

idea out. Once it’s out, I’m on to the next project.<br />

What would you say to an aspiring young rapper?<br />

To be honest, I would advise them to stay in school<br />

and become a lawyer. If you go to bed at night and<br />

you cannot sleep because you have to create, then<br />

follow your passion. But if you can go to sleep and<br />

wake up perfectly fine, you need to go to school.<br />

Because there is no money in music anymore,<br />

there is no benefit. You have to do this because you<br />

need it. Very few get rich and famous and even a<br />

lot of people on the billboard top 100 don’t even<br />

have the money I have. Since finding out that harsh<br />

reality I try to tell kids to think about it, because it’s<br />

one of the toughest jobs to get into.<br />

But you would never trade.<br />

Never! It’s been a fantastic ride and I’m very much<br />

enjoying it!<br />

www.solomonraymusic.com<br />

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© Daniele Peace


virgin<br />

xtravaganzah<br />

interview fleur pierets


As an impersonator of the Virgin Mary, performance artist<br />

Virgin Xtravaganzah talks about how Mary actually loves the<br />

gay community and that people got it wrong in the books.<br />

That God doesn’t care whether you’re gay or straight; he<br />

just wants you to be a good person and get over these trivial<br />

limitations. A conversation about working from an outward<br />

place, the joy of performing and identification with an icon.<br />

You’ve just returned from some gigs abroad.<br />

You’re quite busy these days.<br />

It’s been quite a big year in terms of my development<br />

on the scene. Last year I won a drag competition<br />

and started to perform the Virgin Xtravanganzah<br />

persona on a regular basis. It seems like people very<br />

much respond to the character.<br />

Why do you think that is?<br />

I think because it’s intriguing. The story of the Virgin<br />

Mary, the legend, is very much built into our psyche,<br />

even if you are not a Christian. To see that kind of<br />

icon impersonated by a drag queen with a mustache,<br />

is quite attention grabbing.<br />

How did you come up with the concept of<br />

impersonating the Virgin Mary?<br />

I was, as I call it, casually raised Catholic. I was never<br />

baptized but I went to a Catholic school so as from a<br />

very young age, I got acquainted with the Bible. I’ve<br />

always been very drawn to dramatics and loved the<br />

over-the-top archetypes in fairytales. I had a similar<br />

feeling about the Virgin Mary. She was, and still is,<br />

a mysterious creature. Did you know that there are<br />

only 14 lines in the Bible about her? We don’t know<br />

anything about her and still, she’s everywhere: she’s<br />

on the altar and in paintings, as well as there are<br />

millions of statues to light a candle in front of. She<br />

has such a presence in the church yet she has no<br />

voice. So I thought; what would it be like if she was a<br />

modern day 14 year old girl? What would she sound<br />

like if she were growing up today? So I gave her this<br />

American valley girl accent and I started to create an<br />

identity.<br />

Do you identify with your character?<br />

I do, yes. I like to put myself into a 14-year old<br />

person’s mind frame, approached by the creator of<br />

the universe who said: “Would you like to have my<br />

son and be immortalized for the rest of all eternity?”<br />

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© Studio Prokopiou, headpiece by Hysteria Machine


Would you dare to say no if it were you? The point is<br />

that we will never know what went through Mary’s<br />

head, her internal monologue, when that happened.<br />

She definitely didn’t know what she was getting into.<br />

I think that’s something a lot of people can identify<br />

with. Everybody is young at one point and makes<br />

decisions that they look back on and question if that<br />

was actually what they wanted to do with their life.<br />

In my incarnation of Mary, she has become a drag<br />

queen and came back to earth to do all the things she<br />

didn’t really get to do as a religious icon.<br />

You’re very thorough when it comes to your drag<br />

identity.<br />

My drag is very different from a lot of other drag<br />

queens since many of them work from a different<br />

place than I do. They work from an inside-out kind<br />

of way; they take something from deep within<br />

themselves, put a magnifying glass on it, and that<br />

explosive image is what becomes their drag. Whereas<br />

for me, I’m not the Virgin Mary, obviously, so I took<br />

a character outside of myself and experimented with<br />

what happens if I internalized and regurgitated that.<br />

This became my drag character. It came from an<br />

outward kind of place instead of something coming<br />

from the inside out.<br />

You are a trained actor. How did you become a<br />

performance artist?<br />

I’m originally from Oregon, USA and I came to the UK<br />

to study drama. I’ve always been an attention seeker<br />

and I’ve always liked being watched doing silly things<br />

in a very broad context. I really thought acting was<br />

the thing I wanted to do but over the years I got a bit<br />

bored. I felt it was something else that I wanted to<br />

offer, something that didn’t come from somebody’s<br />

script or from a casting director. As an actor you’re<br />

always at the whim of somebody else’s idea. I can play<br />

Hamlet, but I did not create Hamlet. I didn’t create<br />

the Virgin Mary, but I did create Virgin Xtravaganzah<br />

and she’s an original concept. Through her I can be<br />

more authentic as an artist then I can be as an actor.<br />

Can you put all your creativity into one character?<br />

I can. I love the performative art form and I’m just as<br />

much a writer as I am a drag queen. I write all my own<br />

material, I sing live instead of lip-syncing and I take<br />

pop songs and rewrite them to tell the story of the<br />

Virgin Mary in a comic sort of way. Basically I’m the<br />

Weird All Yankovic of Catholicism.<br />

‘Joy is really<br />

powerful. If you<br />

enjoy doing what<br />

you are doing,<br />

people respond<br />

to it, always. It’s<br />

like magic.’<br />

Is the art of performance limitless?<br />

In it’s potential, it is, but there must be limits in the<br />

way you approach it. If you set out to just explode<br />

your soul all over an audience, there’s not going to<br />

be any structure and people might not understand<br />

what they are seeing. I find there is a limit and<br />

structure to performance art and I don’t believe<br />

you can just do whatever you want; there has to<br />

be some kind of boundary to be set for yourself.<br />

However, once those boundaries are in place, you<br />

can completely lose control. If you only set out to<br />

lose control, it’s actually more limiting. You have<br />

to make choices in order to be professional and in<br />

order to tell the exact story you aim for. Not just give<br />

birth to a vision but to give that vision a language, so<br />

that people can understand. Art that doesn’t do that<br />

becomes vague.<br />

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© Studio Prokopiou


© Studio Prokopiou, headpiece by Bambi Blue


Is it important for you that people understand<br />

the context of the performance, because of its<br />

religious theme?<br />

To be honest, I’m surprised that I haven’t had more<br />

backlash. We’re talking very few comments on<br />

social media. Maybe it’s because I try to base as<br />

much of my work as possible on my intelligence. I do<br />

not make fun of the Virgin Mary and I don’t set out to<br />

be blasphemous. Because by the end of the day, the<br />

things that I stand for and the things that I talk about<br />

in my songs are about how she actually loves the<br />

gay community and that people got it wrong in the<br />

books; that God doesn’t care whether you’re gay or<br />

straight. He just wants you to be a good person and<br />

get over these trivial limitations. If you set out not<br />

to have prejudice, it wouldn’t matter whether you’re<br />

a Catholic, a Muslim or a Buddhist, and we should<br />

actually all get along. So if people are really listening<br />

to what I’m actually saying, and hopefully most<br />

people do, they’ll notice that I’m far from offensive.<br />

Yes, I have foul language sometimes, but that’s also<br />

part of the character; not wanting to be the good girl<br />

all the time but to be human.<br />

You’re living in the UK, could you do this kind of<br />

show in the USA, where you come from?<br />

I have no idea to how receptive America would be<br />

to what I do. I don’t know because I never tried and<br />

it’s one of my goals to go to New York next year<br />

and actually see how people feel about my work.<br />

The Brits are very open to – I’m not going to say<br />

intelligent art, because that may say I’m intelligent –<br />

but intellectualized art. They’re very receptive to wit<br />

and to humor in particular, they don’t take things very<br />

seriously. Now America, with it’s very fundamental<br />

religious foundation, is different, and in many<br />

ways I think Virgin Xtravaganzah would be more<br />

controversial in a place like America then it would<br />

be in Europe. I also feel that the London attitude<br />

towards drag is much more free than in America,<br />

where it’s considered female impersonation. I like it<br />

more to be androgynous; to use my mustache and<br />

my skinny frame instead of being a copy of the Ru<br />

Paul’s Drag Race contestants where everybody has<br />

the boobs, the hips and the wig.<br />

Are you inspired enough to give the character a<br />

long lasting life?<br />

I am! I was actually just talking to my husband today<br />

that I could actually see Virgin Xtravaganzah as an<br />

old woman. There are some drag queens - and I’m<br />

looking amongst others to Dame Edna - who are<br />

older. They are artists who managed to keep the<br />

art of drag alive, far past what many drag queens<br />

have been able to do. When I get older I think it<br />

would be really interesting to see the Virgin less as<br />

a teenager but more as an older and wiser woman.<br />

It sounds like you very much enjoy what you are<br />

doing.<br />

I do love it, it was an original idea that hadn’t been<br />

done before and it makes me very happy. Joy is<br />

really powerful, even if everybody talks about how<br />

good art always comes from depression. If you<br />

enjoy doing what you are doing, people respond to<br />

it, always. It’s like magic.<br />

What would you say to a 14-year old person,<br />

living in the middle of nowhere, who’s very<br />

inspired by your work?<br />

I grew up in a very small town so I know exactly what<br />

you are talking about. If you’re living in the middle<br />

of nowhere and really want to be an artist, it would<br />

be very easy for me to say that you should move to<br />

the big city and become a great artist. It would be<br />

easy to say, “follow your dreams, do what you want<br />

to do”. No doubt that’s an important part, but you<br />

also have to understand that life is working within<br />

the confines and the limits that you have. There’s<br />

always specificity and there’s always complexity,<br />

and the more specific you can be with your dreams<br />

and aspirations, the better. I came to the UK to go<br />

to drama school and I spent years out of work as an<br />

actor. I was working in a call center and I was very<br />

depressed; I knew I wanted to be a performer but I<br />

was constantly looking for somebody else to give<br />

me the opportunity. Whether it was my agent or a<br />

director, I was constantly looking outside of myself<br />

for someone to figure out who I am. It was only<br />

when I hit rock bottom that I realized I wanted to<br />

do something because it was fun. And that’s when<br />

things started happening. So, before anything,<br />

find the idea. Whatever that idea is. Find that<br />

vision, find that fantasy, whether it’s performance<br />

art, writing or painting. Find it first, and then go<br />

for it.<br />

www.virginxtravaganzah.com<br />

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