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<strong>MB</strong> <strong>Maschinenbau</strong> GmbH<br />
Im Holze 32<br />
32120 Hiddenhausen<br />
Germany<br />
Tel.: 0049 52 21 – 68 99 77<br />
Fax: 0049 52 21 – 68 90 77<br />
Mail: info@mb-maschinenbau.de<br />
www.mb-maschinenbau.de<br />
Ideas in Quality
For trials you are<br />
welcomed in our test<br />
laboratory.<br />
Or you may visit us at our<br />
exhibitions in Europe or<br />
overseas.<br />
Further information:<br />
www.mb-maschinenbau.de<br />
<strong>MB</strong> <strong>Maschinenbau</strong> GmbH<br />
<strong>MB</strong> <strong>Maschinenbau</strong> GmbH<br />
Founded: 1992<br />
Founder: Ronald Busch<br />
Gen. manager: Ronald Busch<br />
Focus on: Construction, development,<br />
sales and services<br />
Production: sanding machines and<br />
special machines for the<br />
woodworking and metal<br />
industry<br />
Exhibitions<br />
in Europe and<br />
overseas: Ligna – Xylexpo- IWF<br />
Company motto<br />
„Ideas in Quality“<br />
Company location<br />
Nordrhein-Westfalen<br />
Hiddenhausen, near Bielefeld<br />
depart highway<br />
A30 Hiddenhausen<br />
Airports<br />
Hannover, Münster,<br />
Paderborn, Dortmund<br />
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004 –<br />
009<br />
012 –<br />
015<br />
016 –<br />
017<br />
018 –<br />
021<br />
022 –<br />
023<br />
Surface sanding machines<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech (004 – 007)<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Big (008 – 009)<br />
ROB (010 – 011)<br />
Ledge sanding machines<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Profile (012 – 013)<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong> (014 – 015)<br />
Edge sanding machines<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex (014 – 015)<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat (016 – 017)<br />
Special machines<br />
LA-500 (018 – 019)<br />
Profiturn (020 – 021)<br />
Brush sanding system<br />
<strong>MB</strong>-Flex (022 – 023)<br />
Contents<br />
003
004<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
… operation areas<br />
The patented <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
principle is used for the sanding<br />
of flat and profile surfaced<br />
workpieces.<br />
The rotational brush belt sanding system<br />
for optimal processing in the field of:<br />
- intermediate lacquer sanding<br />
- wood fine sanding<br />
- MDF – sanding<br />
- metal deburring<br />
Due to its innovative<br />
sanding method the <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
offers for all these areas<br />
optimal prerequisites for<br />
the best surface quality.<br />
Brush belt for a gentle surface<br />
sanding in all areas<br />
Double brush aggregate<br />
at the run out of the machine<br />
Simple and clear<br />
operating comfort<br />
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Machine data:<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech has three<br />
programmable sanding options:<br />
Rotation-, Oscillation- and belt<br />
sanding function<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech<br />
1000/2<br />
Standard configuration<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech<br />
1300/2<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech<br />
1400/2<br />
Machine lenght: 3860 mm 3860 mm 4025 mm<br />
Machine width: 2400 mm 2400 mm 2755 mm<br />
Machine height: 2000 mm 2000 mm 2000 mm<br />
Working width: 1000 mm 1300 mm 1400 mm<br />
Electrical power: 21 KW 21 KW 24 KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
PLC control system: Siemens S7<br />
Control element: Siemens OP 7<br />
Electrical cabinet: L=1200mm H=900mm D=400mm<br />
Extraction hood: 3 x 160 mm + 1 x 100 mm + 1 x 125 mm<br />
Extraction power: 8000m3/h with 30 m/sec. air velocity<br />
(Technical details are subject to change)<br />
Special constructions on request<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech 1300/2<br />
The sanding belt consists of<br />
easily interchangeable sanding<br />
brush segments<br />
.<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
… sanding method<br />
The patented <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
principle is essentially different<br />
to all known sanding systems.<br />
The sanding belt of the <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
is equipped with interchangeable<br />
brush segments, covers the work<br />
piece during the complete process<br />
period steadily and complete. This<br />
increases the sanding effectiveness<br />
considerably.<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech is equipped with<br />
three different sanding options:<br />
Rotation function:<br />
The sanding belt rotates with free<br />
programmable sanding belt- and<br />
rotation velocities above the workpiece.<br />
Oscillation function:<br />
The sanding belt oscillates with free<br />
programmable parameters above the<br />
work piece. The parameters are set in a way<br />
that a full 360° rotation of the belt is<br />
guaranteed, while pieces go through the<br />
machine.<br />
Sanding belt function:<br />
The sanding belt works without movement<br />
like a wide belt sander.<br />
The rotation-, the sanding belt- and the feed<br />
speeds are free programmable at the PLC control<br />
panel.<br />
The individual setting of the machine makes it<br />
possible to adjust all needed parameters to customer<br />
demands. As an example it may be necessary to sand<br />
a massive work pieces in a determined zone more<br />
demanding or more gentle.<br />
In this way the operator is able to program and<br />
save up to 99 different options.<br />
An extremely capable sanding system requires<br />
also an effective work piece transport system.<br />
Therefore a new vacuum transport device was<br />
developed for the <strong>Roba</strong>-Tech. This is able to hold all<br />
conceivable parts economically.<br />
An ingenious channel system in connection<br />
with the high performance ventilator and the air repatriation<br />
system guarantees an unproblematic use of the machine.<br />
The feed belt is absolutely maintenance free.<br />
005
We save your<br />
quality and<br />
productivity.<br />
Effectiveness<br />
12 0<br />
10 0<br />
80<br />
60<br />
40<br />
20<br />
006<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech is assessed<br />
many times, even in three shift<br />
operation.<br />
0<br />
1 2 3 4 5 6<br />
time<br />
7 8 9 1 11<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech<br />
Comparison of the<br />
- one rotational belt with two rotational brushes 1. Basis<br />
- approx. 1,7 m2<br />
- 88 sanding segments<br />
- rotating<br />
- low<br />
Werkstück<br />
- lead-phase-angle of about 20°<br />
relative to feed belt sanding belt<br />
- positive angle relative to work piece<br />
Werkstück<br />
- sanding operations:<br />
Rotation-, oscillation-, belt sanding function<br />
- Rotation speeds<br />
- sanding belt speeds<br />
- free programmable rotation angles:<br />
two sanding zones to be differently<br />
influenced by PLC settings<br />
- vacuum power<br />
- feed speeds<br />
- strip settings<br />
- strip change interval:<br />
only 10 % during an<br />
interval<br />
- high effectivity<br />
- high feed speed<br />
- gentle treatment on the edges<br />
- best sanding results in the grooves<br />
- strips go deep into the grooves<br />
- good sanding results at the edges<br />
- avoids totally or partly denibbed parts<br />
- long lasting abrasives<br />
- low temperatures<br />
- perfect finish<br />
- fully deburred in all areas<br />
- always constant effectiveness (see graphic left)<br />
Feed direction of<br />
work piece<br />
Zone I<br />
Zone II<br />
Work piece<br />
seen from above<br />
1.1 operation area<br />
„in tough“ with the<br />
work piece<br />
1.2 head setting<br />
1.3 Head rotation<br />
velocity<br />
1.4 Brush strip angle<br />
2. Parameters<br />
influencable<br />
3. Results<br />
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sanding process<br />
Conventional<br />
- two or four rotational brushes<br />
(each brush)<br />
- 0,04 m2<br />
- 3 sanding segments<br />
- straight or inclined<br />
- high<br />
Additional cleaning brush<br />
for the vacuum transport belt<br />
- perpendicular relative to feed belt<br />
- negative angle relative to work piece<br />
(compare sketch)<br />
- rotation speed<br />
- feed speed<br />
- strip settings<br />
- strip change interval<br />
Special vacuum transport belt<br />
for save work piece transport<br />
work piece<br />
Rotation of hub<br />
Work piece<br />
- low effectiveness<br />
- low feed speed<br />
- hard treatment on the edges<br />
- bad sanding results in the grooves<br />
- strips „jump“ over the grooves<br />
- bad sanding results at the edges<br />
- totally or partly denibbed work pieces<br />
- high consumption of abrasives<br />
- high sanding temperatures<br />
- „wavy“ optics of the surface<br />
- pieces are partly not sanded<br />
- no solution for problematic work pieces<br />
- effectiveness is only in a short time interval constant<br />
(see graphic on the right)<br />
Sanding segments<br />
Effectiveness<br />
120<br />
100<br />
80<br />
60<br />
40<br />
20<br />
0<br />
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11<br />
Time<br />
007
<strong>Roba</strong>-Tech<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Tech sanding principle<br />
The main idea of the <strong>Roba</strong> Tech principle is to avoid the main disadvantage of all<br />
today known rotation brush sanding machines: Those who work normally with sanding<br />
rolls and a diameter of about 350 mm are only in a very small area in touch with the<br />
workpiece, about 40 mm.<br />
Only in the vertex of the radius of the tool a sanding process is possible. To<br />
compensate the very small sanding area normal sanding systems have to increase<br />
their rotation speed to a high degree. Only this way they have a chance to get<br />
nearly the same effectiveness. But this results a “hard touch” of the sanding paper<br />
which leads to an aggressive behavior on the edges, high temperatures and wavy<br />
optic of the material. Hurt edges and totally denibbed surfaces are often the<br />
result.<br />
The innovative and patented <strong>Roba</strong> Tech is equipped with a totally new<br />
developed sanding belt containing 246 sanding strips and provides a sanding<br />
area of approx. 1600 x 1300 mm in touch with the workpiece and more than<br />
300 meters of sanding material on the aggregates. This is unique on the<br />
market of brush sanding machines.<br />
A 360 ° rotation of the sanding aggregate makes it possible to reach all<br />
edges and corners of a workpiece.<br />
Due to the by this means enlarged sanding effectiveness the machine is<br />
able to get best cutting results by lowest rotation speeds.<br />
As a result of this, low movement speeds let the sanding strips slide<br />
gently into the milled grooves and sand them every effectively.<br />
Many by SPS adjustable sanding options help the operator to set the<br />
machine to his special sanding requirements.<br />
The advantages of the <strong>Roba</strong> Tech principle summarized:<br />
1. Large abrasives quantities make low movement speeds possible,<br />
at the same effectiveness.<br />
2. The rotational sanding head ensures a consistent sanding in all workpiece areas.<br />
3. A large sanding area covers the workpiece totally while proceeding.<br />
4. Free PLC programmable sanding parameter to optimize results.<br />
5. A perfected vacuum system guarantees that even drawers can be feeded surely.<br />
6. A "pulling" sanding avoids wavy surfaces and penetrates deeply into the milled<br />
grooves.<br />
7. The low rotational speed guarantees long abrasive lifespan because the sanding<br />
segments do not hit the work piece edges that hard.<br />
8. Abrasive configuration is freely eligible from the <strong>MB</strong> Flex system.<br />
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Example of application<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech integrated into a door production line<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech integrated into a cabinet door membrane press<br />
production line<br />
<strong>Roba</strong> Tech integrated into a furniture production spraying line<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Tech sanding belt contains 174 abrasive segments
008<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-BIG<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-BIG<br />
… operation areas<br />
The new developed <strong>Roba</strong>-BIG<br />
brush sanding machine with its<br />
ingenious 630 mm sanding hub<br />
diameter is constructed for the<br />
following fields of operation:<br />
* intermediate lacquer sanding<br />
* wood fine sanding<br />
* MDF – sanding<br />
Height setting manually<br />
with digital counter or<br />
with motorized height<br />
setting<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-BIG machine range is available with<br />
different layout possibilities of the rotational<br />
brushes. Ask for more information.<br />
Safety devices:<br />
Electrical door locking,<br />
Ripcord switch at run out of<br />
machine<br />
630 mm diameter<br />
about 300 mm sanding area „in touch“ with the<br />
work piece<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-BIG with dust encapsulated<br />
machine body and electrical locking of the<br />
doors.<br />
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Machine configuration<br />
1<br />
2<br />
3<br />
Easy and clear operation<br />
panel<br />
zone 2 zone 1<br />
Configuration<br />
zone 1 zone 2 1400<br />
Type<br />
1400<br />
Two straight<br />
rotational<br />
brushes<br />
G 1400/2 R G 1400/2 V<br />
Two inclined<br />
rotational<br />
brushes (20°)<br />
Two straight<br />
rotational<br />
brushes<br />
Two straight<br />
rotational<br />
brushes<br />
Two straight<br />
rotational<br />
brushes<br />
GG 1400/4<br />
R<br />
Choose your machine layout:<br />
G = two straight rotational brushes<br />
SG = two inclined brushes/ two straight rotational brushes<br />
GG = two straight rotational brushes<br />
R = transport belt with pressure rolls<br />
V = vacuum transport belt<br />
special constructions on request<br />
� <strong>Roba</strong>-Big<br />
simply excellent!<br />
Special vacuum transport belt<br />
for save piece transport with<br />
additional cleaning device<br />
SG 1400/4<br />
V<br />
GG 1400/4<br />
V<br />
.<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-BIG<br />
… operation areas<br />
Due to the double brush<br />
sanding aggregate<br />
construction it is<br />
guaranteed, that one<br />
aggregate always works<br />
counter clock wise, the other<br />
clock wise.<br />
The brush aggregate diameter<br />
of 630 mm, only implemented by<br />
<strong>MB</strong> <strong>Maschinenbau</strong>, makes it<br />
possible to decrease the speed of<br />
rotation while the dragging speed<br />
still remains the same. This way the<br />
disadvantages of usual brush<br />
aggregates with lower diameters,<br />
which have to rotate with high speeds<br />
for the same effeciveness, are avoided.<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> BIG principle is easily said<br />
in this one sentence:<br />
Large diameter =<br />
optimal dragging speed at the lowest<br />
aggregate rotation and highest feed<br />
speed possible!<br />
Therefore best results are guaranteed.<br />
Depending on the production parameters<br />
and quality demands further aggregates can be<br />
installed. To ensure better edge processing<br />
these additional aggregates may be inclined by<br />
20°.<br />
As a standard design the <strong>Roba</strong> BIG brushing<br />
machine is delivered with High Grip transport belt<br />
and pressure roles. This constellation offers the best<br />
costs/use effect for flat and bigger pieces.<br />
However smaller pieces have to be sanded or the<br />
variant is chosen with the aggregates arranged at an<br />
angle, a vacuum transport system is required.<br />
<strong>MB</strong> <strong>Maschinenbau</strong> guarantees effective working<br />
and completely maintenance and wear resistant vacuum<br />
carpet that all parts are held safely by the vacuum<br />
transport.<br />
All types of machines stand out due to ruggedness and<br />
simple handling.<br />
009
<strong>Roba</strong>-Big<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Big sanding principle<br />
The main idea of the <strong>Roba</strong> Big principle is to avoid the main disadvantage of all<br />
today known rotation brush sanding machines: Those who work normally with sanding<br />
rolls and a diameter of about 350 mm are only in a very small area in touch with the<br />
workpiece, about 40 mm.<br />
Only in the vertex of the radius of the tool a sanding process is possible. To<br />
compensate the very small sanding area normal sanding systems have to increase<br />
their rotation speed to a high degree. Only this way they have a chance to get nearly<br />
the same effectiveness. But this results in a “hard touch” of the sanding paper, which<br />
leads to an aggressive behavior on the edges, high temperatures and wavy optic<br />
of the material. Hurt edges and totally denibbed surfaces are often the result.<br />
The innovative <strong>Roba</strong> Big is equipped with a totally new developed sanding wheel<br />
with a diameter of approx. 630 mm which it makes possible to obtain a larger<br />
sanding area (about 300 mm) in touch with the work piece and more than 250<br />
meters of sanding material on each aggregate. This is unique on the market of<br />
brush sanding machines.<br />
Due to the by this means enlarged sanding effectiveness the machine is able<br />
to get best cutting results by lowest rotation speeds.<br />
As a result of this, low movement speeds let the sanding strips slide gently into<br />
the milled grooves and sand them every effectively.<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Big is equipped with two rotational heads, one is clockwise sanding<br />
followed immediately by counter clockwise sanding.<br />
Only in this way it is ensured that, independently of the wood grain<br />
structure, all upstanding „hairs“ are denibbed.<br />
Many by SPS adjustable sanding options help the operator to set the<br />
machine to his special sanding requirements.<br />
The advantages of the <strong>Roba</strong> Big principle summarized:<br />
1. Large abrasives quantities make low movement speeds possible,<br />
at the same effectiveness.<br />
2. A big diameter provides more sanding effectiveness in<br />
all work piece areas, while working clock- and counter clockwise.<br />
3. The area in touch with the work piece is enlarged up to 300 mm<br />
instead of the normally possible 40 mm.<br />
4. Clockwise followed by counter clockwise sanding ensures best results.<br />
5. A perfected vacuum system guarantees that even drawers<br />
can be feeded surely.<br />
6. A "pulling" sanding avoids wavy surfaces and penetrates deeply into<br />
the milled grooves.<br />
7. The low rotational speed guarantees long abrasive lifespan because<br />
the sanding segments do not hit the work piece edges that hard.<br />
8. Abrasive configuration is freely eligible from the <strong>MB</strong> Flex system.<br />
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Example of application<br />
Diameter comparison <strong>Roba</strong> Big - conventional<br />
Two inclined sanding wheels under an angle of 20°, combined<br />
with a pressure roll plus vacuum transport system<br />
Due to the combination of vacuum and pressure roll holding<br />
system it is possible to feed even complicated work pieces.<br />
Last check shows results to full satisfaction
010<br />
(Seitenansicht) ROB<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
ROB<br />
… Operation areas<br />
ROB the alternative<br />
wide brush sanding machine<br />
for a reasonable price.<br />
Contructed for the following<br />
operation areas:<br />
* Intermediate lacquer sanding<br />
* wood fine sanding<br />
* MDF – sanding<br />
* slight structuring processes<br />
Easy to set pressure rolls<br />
The ROB range is offered with several different<br />
brush setting options.<br />
Manual height setting with<br />
digital counter.<br />
On request a motorized<br />
height setting can be chosen.<br />
Double brush aggregate work clock<br />
and counter clock wise,<br />
equipped with easy to change<br />
sanding segments via plug in system.<br />
� ROB<br />
simple ! – good !<br />
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Machine data:<br />
The ROB 1000/2<br />
(1300/2)<br />
with two sanding<br />
aggregates<br />
ROB<br />
1000/2<br />
1300/2<br />
Standard types<br />
ROB<br />
1000/3<br />
1300/3<br />
ROB<br />
1000/4<br />
1300/4<br />
Machine lenght: 1225 mm 1600 mm 1900 mm<br />
1500 mm<br />
1500 mm<br />
1500 mm<br />
Machine width:<br />
1800 mm<br />
1800 mm<br />
1800 mm<br />
Machine height: 1700 mm 1700 mm 1700 mm<br />
1000 mm<br />
1000 mm<br />
1000 mm<br />
Working width:<br />
1300 mm<br />
1300 mm<br />
1300 mm<br />
Electrical power: 6 KW 9 KW 12 KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
Feed system: Roller transport or transport belt<br />
(Technical details are subject to change)<br />
Special constructions on request<br />
Special constructions<br />
Use of heavy cotton brushes working width 2 m 400 mm brush diameter<br />
Standard machine types<br />
The ROB 1000/3<br />
(1300/3)<br />
with three sanding<br />
aggregates<br />
Only brand name products<br />
are used:<br />
Klöckner-Möller, Lenze,<br />
Siemens und<br />
Weidmüller<br />
The ROB 1000/4<br />
(1300/4)<br />
with four sanding<br />
aggregates<br />
ROB<br />
… sanding method<br />
By the double brush sanding<br />
aggregate construction is<br />
guaranteed, that always<br />
one aggregate works counter<br />
clock wise, the other clock<br />
wise.<br />
The standard brush diameter is<br />
310 mm but can be enlarged to<br />
400 mm according customer<br />
demands.<br />
All aggregates and the feed speed<br />
are electronically adjustable by<br />
inverter.<br />
Due to the simple construction and<br />
altering possibilities this machine<br />
guarantees an optimal serviceability.<br />
Depending on the production parameters<br />
and quality demands further aggregates<br />
can be installed.<br />
To ensure better edge processing these<br />
additional aggregates may be inclined by<br />
20°.<br />
011
ROB<br />
Surface sanding machine<br />
The ROB sanding principle<br />
The main idea of the ROB sanding principle is the clockwise sanding followed<br />
immediately by counter clockwise sanding.<br />
Only in this way it is ensured that, independently of the wood grain structure,<br />
all upstanding „hairs“ are denibbed.<br />
In the main configuration the ROB machine contains two rotational sanding heads<br />
and a pressure roll system. Set up in this way it is a solid basic layout for those<br />
customers who wish an optimized price-performance ratio.<br />
Due to the modular construction of the ROB series, the machine can be<br />
configured to every customer demand. Six double sanding head machines,<br />
machines with working width up to 2 m and machines for heavy structuring<br />
work have been delivered by <strong>MB</strong>.<br />
Further the machine is used for cleaning of the backsides of thermofoiled<br />
cabinet doors and for dust removement in lacquering lines.<br />
The simple, modular construction reduces costs and makes the maintenance<br />
and set up very easy.<br />
Due to the optional, very effective vacuum transport system small pieces<br />
like drawers are no problem to be feeded through the machine.<br />
The advantages of the ROB principle summarized:<br />
1. Clockwise followed by counter clockwise sanding ensures best<br />
results.<br />
2. Pressure roll system will hold workpieces from 330 mm safely. On<br />
request modified for workpieces from 245 mm length.<br />
3. Vacuum transport system as an option available.<br />
4. Very easy to maintain and set up.<br />
5. Best offer for small investments.<br />
6. Free setting of all rotational head and feed speeds.<br />
7. Abrasive configuration is freely eligible from the <strong>MB</strong> Flex system.<br />
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Example of application<br />
Enlarged basic version with two double head aggregates<br />
Solid construction with five sanding heads<br />
Machine with a working width of two meters and four brushes<br />
Customized construction with vacuum transport and inclined<br />
sanding heads
012<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Profile<br />
Ledge sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Profile<br />
… operation areas<br />
The sanding machine <strong>Roba</strong>-Profile<br />
is constructed for wood, fine<br />
and intermediate lacquer sanding of<br />
ledges with brushes and compound<br />
sanding heads.<br />
Also appropriate for light structuring<br />
work.<br />
Due to the simple construction and<br />
altering possibilities this machine<br />
guarantees an optimal serviceability<br />
of all its components..<br />
According to customers<br />
Performances a one to four sided<br />
construction is also available.<br />
Open operation.<br />
Electronic regulation of all<br />
aggregates<br />
All aggregates to be<br />
swivelled<br />
(Side view)<br />
The double brush sanding<br />
aggregate working clock<br />
and counter clock wise,<br />
fully encapsulated<br />
Solid aggregate stands<br />
Optional in 150 mm or 300 mm<br />
working width<br />
Machine body in welded heavy duty<br />
construction<br />
(Front view)<br />
Mature technology:<br />
many times approved<br />
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The feed system consists<br />
of gummed transport<br />
rollers.<br />
The lateral stops are<br />
ball bearing subject led<br />
and easy to adjust.<br />
All top pressure units<br />
are centrally adjustable.<br />
Machine data:<br />
Profile 211 Profile 221 Profile 222 Profile 232<br />
Machine lenght: 890 mm 890 mm 1830 mm 1830 mm<br />
Machine width: 1000 mm 1000 mm 1000 mm 1000 mm<br />
Machine height: 1400 mm 1400 mm 1400 mm 1400 mm<br />
Weight: 400 kg 450 kg 800 kg 850 kg<br />
Working width: 5 – 150 mm<br />
Working height: 850 mm – 900 mm<br />
Piece thickness: 5 - 100 mm<br />
Piece length: min 350 mm; shorter length on request<br />
Electrical power: 2,5 KW 5 KW 5 KW 7 KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
Machine data:<br />
Profile 233 Profile 233L Profile 243 Profile 244<br />
Machine lenght: 2720 mm 2500 mm 2720 mm 3400 mm<br />
Machine width: 1600 mm 1000 mm 1600 mm 1600 mm<br />
Machine height: 1400 mm 1400 mm 1400 mm 1400 mm<br />
Weight: 1000 kg 1000 kg 1000 kg 1350 kg<br />
Working width: 5 – 150 mm<br />
Working height: 850 mm – 900 mm<br />
Piece thickness: 5 - 100 mm<br />
Piece length: min 350 mm; shorter length on request<br />
Electrical power: 7,5KW 7KW 9,5KW 9,5KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
(Technical details are subject to change)<br />
Special solutions<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Profile with six sanding aggregates<br />
Legend:<br />
O = top<br />
U = bottom<br />
S/R = side<br />
right<br />
S/L = side left<br />
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<strong>Roba</strong>-Profile<br />
Profile sanding machine<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Profile sanding principle<br />
The main idea of the ROB sanding principle is the clockwise sanding followed<br />
immediately by counter clockwise sanding: Only in this way it is ensured that,<br />
independently of the wood grain structure, all upstanding „hairs“ are denibbed.<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Profile machine in all its configurations is build for sanding moldings<br />
found in various furniture, window and joinery companies. Solid, veneered or<br />
lacquered.<br />
In the main configuration the <strong>Roba</strong> Profile machine contains two rotational<br />
sanding heads and a pressure roll system. Set up in this way it is a solid basic<br />
layout for those customers who wish an optimized price-performance ratio.<br />
Due to the modular construction of the <strong>Roba</strong> Profile series, the machine can be<br />
configured to every customers demand. E.g. an eight head machine is able to<br />
sand profiled moldings from all four sides.<br />
Equipped with the <strong>MB</strong> Flex brush systems the machine is very easy and fast<br />
maintained and set up for a new profile.<br />
Divergently to the known systems based on sanding belts the <strong>Roba</strong> Profile<br />
brush system forgive a not strictly exact setting of the aggregates.<br />
Centralized set up for the side guides and the top pressure roll devices<br />
make sure that even not experienced personnel is able to maintain such a<br />
machine. In only a couple of minutes a <strong>Roba</strong> Profile is ready to<br />
proceed.<br />
Further on this machine type is used for intermediate lacquer sanding.<br />
For that often feeds speeds up to 100 m/min. are necessary.<br />
The standard working breadth is 150mm, as an option some<br />
customers desire 300 mm.<br />
The advantages of the ROB principle summarized:<br />
1. Clockwise followed by counter clockwise sanding ensures best<br />
results.<br />
2. Pressure roll system will hold workpieces from 330 mm safely.<br />
Piece-by-piece feeding of shorter parts is also possible.<br />
3. Centralized set up for the side guides and top pressure system.<br />
4. Very easy maintenance and set up.<br />
5. Best offer for small investments.<br />
6. Infinite variable setting of the head rotations and feed speed.<br />
7. Tool free set up of the sanding aggregates.<br />
8. High feed speeds are technical possible.<br />
9. Modular construction meets every customers demand without<br />
complicating the machine.<br />
10. Abrasive configuration is freely eligible from the <strong>MB</strong> Flex system.<br />
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Example of application<br />
Side view of the bottom and top aggregate. Here shown in the short<br />
machine version with both aggregates one upon the other<br />
Six double sanding heads set up guarantees best results<br />
Customized 500 mm working breadth version<br />
Two sanding heads set in an angle provide better<br />
edge sanding
<strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong><br />
Ledge sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong><br />
… operation areas<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> brush belt sanding system<br />
is a unique development of <strong>MB</strong> for<br />
ledge and panel processing.<br />
Operational areas are<br />
massive wood sanding /<br />
MDF und veneer sanding, as<br />
well intermediate lacquer<br />
sanding.<br />
Linear guided<br />
oscillation and<br />
height setting at<br />
the aggregate<br />
tripod<br />
The module system of the<br />
machine permits to combine four<br />
different aggregate types.<br />
EB<br />
Dust removal<br />
aggregate at<br />
machine run out<br />
RB 300<br />
Brush belt aggregate<br />
for top processing<br />
with oscillation<br />
Transport width<br />
200 und 300 mm with<br />
Super High-Grip-belt<br />
DB<br />
Double brush aggregate can be<br />
swivelled for side processing<br />
RB 80/SR<br />
Brush belt<br />
aggregate can be<br />
swivelled for right<br />
side processing<br />
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Aggregate 1<br />
Aggregate 2<br />
Aggregate 3<br />
Aggregate 4<br />
Machine data:<br />
RB - 300<br />
EB<br />
RB - 300<br />
DB/R<br />
EB<br />
RB - 300<br />
DB/R<br />
DB/L<br />
EB<br />
Machine length: 2050 mm 2830 mm 3850 mm<br />
Machine width: 1500 mm 1500 mm 1700 mm<br />
Machine height: 1800 mm 1800 mm 1800 mm<br />
Working width: 200 mm optional 300 mm<br />
Working height: 850mm - 900mm<br />
Electrical power: 4 KW 6 KW 8 KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
Extraction power: 3020 m3/h 4340 m3/h 5670 m3/h<br />
Aggregate 1<br />
Aggregate 2<br />
Aggregate 3<br />
Aggregate 4<br />
Machine data:<br />
For every machine type an EB aggregate at machine run out is<br />
available<br />
RB - 300<br />
RB - 80 SR<br />
RB - 300<br />
RB - 80 SL<br />
RB - 300<br />
RB - 80 SR<br />
RB - 80 SL<br />
RB - 300<br />
RB - SR<br />
RB - SL<br />
EB<br />
For every machine type an EB aggregate at machine run out is<br />
available<br />
Machine length: 3000 mm 3000 mm 4450 mm 4450 mm<br />
Machine width: 1600 mm 1800 mm 2000 mm 2000 mm<br />
Machine height: 1800 mm 1800 mm 1800 mm 1800 mm<br />
Working width: 200 mm optional 300 mm<br />
Working height: 850mm - 900mm<br />
Electrical power: 4 KW 4 KW 6 KW 8 KW<br />
Voltage: 230/400V 50 HZ 3 PH/N<br />
Extraction power: 1700m3/h 2170m3/h 3500m3/h 5670m3/h<br />
(Technical details are subject to change)<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong><br />
… sanding method<br />
Basic concept to construct this<br />
machine was the idea to close the<br />
gap between the brush sanding and<br />
the traditional belt sanding.<br />
Due to the sanding belt with its<br />
122 easy to replace sanding<br />
segments, the machine offers the<br />
following advantages:<br />
Full surface sanding in an area of about<br />
800mm.<br />
With a mixture of various types of<br />
sanding strips the machine is completely<br />
adjustable to all kind of profiles,<br />
whether they are deeply milled or flat..<br />
High feed speed.<br />
Prefect surface quality.<br />
Removes plaining mistakes.<br />
Sanding of uneven surfaces.<br />
High Speed sanding of water based lacquer.<br />
Easy maintenance for setup of a new profile.<br />
The machine is offered with different<br />
components:<br />
Side processing with RB80 belt sander.<br />
Side processing with DB double brush aggregate.<br />
Top processing with RB300 belt sander and<br />
oscillation.<br />
Dust removal with EB aggregate.<br />
� <strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong> -<br />
a convincing system<br />
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<strong>Roba</strong>-<strong>Belt</strong><br />
Profile sanding machine<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> sanding principle<br />
The main idea of the <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> principle is to avoid the main disadvantage of all<br />
today known rotational brush sanding machines: Those who work normally with<br />
sanding rolls and a diameter of about 350 mm are only in a very small area in touch<br />
with the workpiece, about 30 mm.<br />
Only in the vertex of the radius of the tool a sanding process is possible. To<br />
compensate the very small sanding area normal sanding systems have to increase<br />
their rotation speed to a high degree. Only this way they have a chance to get<br />
the needed effectiveness. But this results a “hard touch” of the sanding paper<br />
which leads to an aggressive behavior on the edges, high temperatures and wavy<br />
optic of the material. Hurt edges and totally denibbed surfaces are often the<br />
result.<br />
The innovative and patented <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> is equipped with a totally new<br />
developed sanding belt containing 138 sanding strips and provides a sanding<br />
area of approx. 700 x 300 mm in touch with the workpiece and more than<br />
70 meters of sanding material on the aggregates. This is unique in the<br />
market of brush sanding machines for profiled moldings.<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> machine in all its configurations is build for sanding<br />
moldings found in various furniture, window and joinery companies. Solid,<br />
veneered or lacquered. Especially in the flooring industry this machine is<br />
often used, due to the very high feed speeds necessary.<br />
Due to the modular construction of the <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> series, the machine<br />
can be configured to every customers demand, even for a four sided<br />
sanding layout.<br />
In the main configuration the <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> machine contains one RB300<br />
sanding head and a pressure roll system. Configurated in this way it is<br />
a solid basic layout for those customers who wish an optimized<br />
price-performance ratio.<br />
Equipped with the <strong>MB</strong> Flex brush systems the machine is very easy<br />
and fast maintained and set up for a new profile.<br />
Divergently to the known systems based on sanding belts the <strong>Roba</strong><br />
<strong>Belt</strong> brush system forgives a not strictly exact setting of the<br />
aggregates. Centralized set up for the side guides and the top<br />
pressure roll devices make sure that even not experienced<br />
personnel is able to maintain such a machine. In only a couple<br />
of minutes a <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> is ready to proceed.<br />
Further on this machine type is used for intermediate lacquer<br />
sanding. For that often feeds speeds up to 100 m/min. are<br />
necessary and often required by the customers.<br />
The standard working breadth is 300mm, as an option<br />
500 mm is also available.<br />
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Example of application<br />
The advantages of the <strong>Roba</strong> <strong>Belt</strong> principle summarized:<br />
1. Large amounts of sanding paper allows high feed speeds while being highly<br />
effective.<br />
2. Pressure rolls feed parts from 1100 mm length safely. Feeding piece-by-piece of<br />
shorter parts is also possible.<br />
3. Centralized set up for the side guides and top pressure system.<br />
4. Very easy maintenance and set up.<br />
5. A "pulling" sanding avoids wavy surfaces and penetrates deeply into the milled<br />
grooves.<br />
6. Infinite variable set up of the head rotations and feed speed.<br />
7. High feed speeds are technical possible.<br />
8. Modular construction meets every customers demand without complicating the<br />
machine.<br />
9. Abrasive configuration is freely eligible from the <strong>MB</strong> Flex system.<br />
Intermediate lacquer and sealer sanding machine<br />
with a feed speed up to 100 m/min.<br />
Customized version with a bottom sanding aggregate<br />
Customized version with two RB300<br />
aggregates sanding clock- and counter clockwise.<br />
Side aggregates in double brush configuration.
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<strong>Roba</strong>-Simplex/Duplex<br />
Edge sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Simplex<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex<br />
… operation areas<br />
The belt sanding machine has been<br />
developed for fine wood,<br />
intermediate lacquer and<br />
MDF primer sanding<br />
Customers:<br />
* joiner's workshops<br />
* industrial plants<br />
* wooden stairs manufacturers<br />
* furniture front producers<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex is famous for its<br />
simple operation and optimal<br />
results. Processing times are<br />
essentially shortened.<br />
Swivelling table<br />
by approx. 10° to protect the<br />
lower work piece edge<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex for edge<br />
processing of furniture front<br />
panels<br />
☺ Easier<br />
� Better<br />
� Faster<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex for edge<br />
processing of massive steps<br />
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Sanding area 1<br />
Sanding area 2<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Simplex<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex<br />
Short description<br />
Machine body - welded and screwed steel construction<br />
Air cushion table - swivelling<br />
- horizontally movable<br />
- ergonomic and functional designs<br />
- simplifies the handling of the work pieces and, due to the air cushion<br />
table, prevents damages at the bottom side of the work pieces<br />
Sanding belt<br />
aggregate<br />
(only Duplex)<br />
Sanding belt<br />
aggregate<br />
(only Simplex)<br />
Standard size (with lateral stop)<br />
Length: 1800 mm<br />
Breadth: 780 mm<br />
Large air cushion table (with lateral and back stop)<br />
Length: 2400 mm<br />
Breadth: 780 mm<br />
- equipped with 2 sanding areas with 100 mm of work breadth each<br />
- consisting of 2 x 138 pieces interchangeable flexible<br />
sanding brush segments<br />
- sanding aggregate with oscillation<br />
offers enormous advantages when sanding radius and transitions<br />
in the edge area. It avoids sanding scratches and at the same time<br />
increases the usage of the paper<br />
- equipped one sanding area with 100 mm of work breadth<br />
- consisting of 1 x 138 pieces interchangeable flexible<br />
sanding brush segments<br />
- manual height adjustment with crank<br />
Blower system - increases the utilization time of the abrasive papers<br />
considerably<br />
Sanding belt speed<br />
adjustment<br />
Duplex aggregate side view:<br />
30 mm oscillation and pneumatic<br />
height adjustment to change<br />
sanding area<br />
Sanding belt aggregate<br />
Air cushion table<br />
Simple operation of all control<br />
elements<br />
Extraction hood (100 mm)<br />
- electronic via inverter<br />
- enables the operator to optimize sanding speed to<br />
every needed application<br />
Two sanding areas<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Simplex<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Duplex<br />
… sanding method<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong> Simplex/Duplex<br />
consists of one or two sanding<br />
areas of 100 mm.<br />
The height adjustment is done<br />
pneumatically in fast movement<br />
mode.<br />
In this machine two different sanding<br />
paper settings can be used.<br />
For example for rough wood sanding<br />
a grid 120 is placed in the upper belt,<br />
while in the lower belt contains a grid<br />
180 for the fine finishing. The change of<br />
the sanding areas is done by<br />
pneumatically enforced movement with<br />
the use of a manual switch.<br />
That means that no pre settings are needed.<br />
The system is based on a sanding belt system<br />
instead of rotating brushes. The advantages<br />
compared to rotating brushes are obvious:<br />
The work pieces must only be pressed against<br />
the sanding belt and not, compared to a normal<br />
brush system, be moved from right to left<br />
through the brush. This results in considerable lower<br />
processing time.<br />
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018<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat<br />
Edge sanding machine<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat<br />
… operation areas<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-Flat was developed<br />
especially for the window<br />
manufacturers who do<br />
individual single piece production.<br />
However, it also finds use<br />
Possible implementations in all<br />
joiner's workshops and industrial plants.<br />
Operation areas:<br />
* intermediate lacquer sanding<br />
* wood fine sanding<br />
The <strong>Roba</strong>-Flat The machine stands<br />
out due to the simple operation<br />
and optimal dragging results.<br />
The time for processing is shortened<br />
considerably.<br />
Easy to replace sanding<br />
segments<br />
Two different sanding areas:<br />
100 mm and 150 mm<br />
for different sanding paper<br />
settings<br />
� Simply the best!<br />
Easy operation<br />
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<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat<br />
Short description<br />
Machine body<br />
Sanding belt<br />
aggregate:<br />
Blower system<br />
Extraction hood<br />
Sanding belt<br />
speed adjustment<br />
Minimized need of space<br />
- welded and screwed steel construction<br />
- consisting of 2 x 138 pieces interchangeable flexible<br />
sanding brush segments<br />
Working length: ca 1200 mm<br />
Working area: 150 mm<br />
and 100 mm<br />
Machine seen from top<br />
- increases utilization time of abrasives<br />
considerably<br />
- electronic via inverter<br />
- enables the operator to optimize sanding speed to<br />
every needed application<br />
Special construction<br />
for the processing of round milled pieces<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat<br />
… sanding method<br />
<strong>Roba</strong>-Flat sanding<br />
solution for single piece<br />
window frame production.<br />
The system: single pieces,<br />
treated with a complete<br />
dip impregnation reach at the<br />
end of the plant its removal and<br />
final check place.<br />
Parts are manually taken off<br />
the plant and checked.<br />
Work pieces with slightly<br />
rough areas caused by the different<br />
quality of the wood or milling tools<br />
must be sanded.<br />
That’s where the <strong>Roba</strong>-Flat is used:<br />
The employee, since he holds the<br />
work piece already in his hands, can<br />
use the simple <strong>Roba</strong>- Flat method<br />
to get an optimal sanding result.<br />
The flat parts of the work piece are sanded<br />
in area 1 with the short sanding paper.<br />
This area is 150 mm wide.<br />
The side mouldings are sanded in area 2<br />
since the slim slotted paper is able to get into<br />
the depths easily.<br />
This area is 100 mm wide.<br />
In this way the four-sided dragging process<br />
lasts only a few seconds and does not strain the<br />
employee due to the ergonomically favourable<br />
form of the "lying" dragging aggregate.<br />
A simple, very effective method, that the budget<br />
won't charge excessively.<br />
But the <strong>Roba</strong> Flat has also its rights in the skilled<br />
crafts and industrial plants: Its construction makes it<br />
possible to sand a big variety of parts of the production<br />
fast and clean. 3 D formed, moulded and small<br />
portions are no problem for this machines, the two<br />
dragging areas can be set up according to<br />
customer needs.<br />
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020<br />
LA-500<br />
Glue application<br />
LA-500<br />
… opearation areas<br />
Glue application system<br />
LA-500 was developed for the<br />
wood window producers.<br />
It guarantees absolutely perfectly<br />
glued connection of parts, is easy<br />
to operate, with low maintenance.<br />
* wooden window production<br />
* gluing of slit and cone<br />
connections<br />
LA-500 – The problem solution for<br />
automatic gluing of slit and cone connections<br />
of wood windows<br />
Two pieces glued in the<br />
same process<br />
Simple and open operating<br />
panel<br />
� Many times approved and<br />
recommended by our customers –<br />
LA-500<br />
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The LA-500<br />
is available in<br />
different sizes:<br />
2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 work<br />
stations<br />
example:<br />
LA-500/4<br />
4 stations for<br />
- window casements<br />
upright and<br />
crosswise<br />
- window frames<br />
upright and<br />
crosswise<br />
The valve block has three separately<br />
adjustable tax valves<br />
Cleaning is done weekly and only takes<br />
about 10 minutes.<br />
For this reason every valve block is equipped<br />
with a glue supply and a water cleaning<br />
connection.<br />
Completed gluing tool<br />
The two part gluing tool has<br />
three main channels connected<br />
with a valve block. In this way<br />
every channel can be provided<br />
with the needed glue separately.<br />
So every kind of gluing can be<br />
done specifically and<br />
independently.<br />
LA-500<br />
… gluing operation<br />
Advantages:<br />
- Gluing tool rest in a water base,<br />
no drying and blocking of channels<br />
possible<br />
- separately adjustable<br />
- two pieces glued in one process<br />
(operation time about 3 sec.)<br />
- weekly cleaning efforts about<br />
10 minutes<br />
- save processes, even after years<br />
- recommended by our customers<br />
- easy to replace tools for different<br />
profile layout<br />
� LA-500 –<br />
The best you can find<br />
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022<br />
<strong>MB</strong>-Flex<br />
Sanding brush system<br />
<strong>MB</strong>-Flex<br />
… operation areas<br />
The sanding brush system is used<br />
or wood fine sanding, intermediate<br />
lacquer sanding and polishing of oil<br />
and wax applications.<br />
The sanding brush consists of a core<br />
which is able to take the sanding<br />
segments in its keyways.<br />
The core itself is not a subject of wear<br />
can be set up for new<br />
configuration.<br />
Core types <strong>MB</strong>-Flex<br />
Top-sanding quality for lowest costs possible!<br />
Core length can be produced according<br />
customer requirements<br />
Core bore to customer requirements<br />
Core diameter 110 mm/24 segments<br />
Core diameter 160 mm/36 segments<br />
Core diameter 280 mm/54 segments<br />
Due to the pluggable brush system different sanding<br />
segments can be mixed with different slit breadths.<br />
With this possibility the customer can produce a<br />
sanding brush, which is suitable for a large work piece<br />
spectrum and different requirements.<br />
It is important to avoid different slottings<br />
impede each other: It is always necessary that the<br />
small and wider slottings are placed in six piece<br />
packages into the core.<br />
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Sanding height setments and application recommendations<br />
Operation area<br />
30 mm Wood sanding<br />
45 mm Wood sanding<br />
60 mm Wood and<br />
intermediate lacquer<br />
sanding<br />
Help for the right adjustment of the segment slotting<br />
slotting:<br />
Performance<br />
Very tough<br />
Tough<br />
Middle flexibility<br />
75 mm Lacquer sanding High flexibility<br />
Slotting breadth S (mm): 0, 4, 5, 7, 10, 15, 20, 25, 35, 50, 100<br />
Slotting types B + C are slotted at an angle.<br />
That’s why they are helpful if work pieces with rounded edges<br />
are processed. They are set alternately into the core.<br />
Slotting: 15 mm<br />
Grid recommendations:<br />
Sanding of hardwood: K80 - K150<br />
Sanding of soft wood: K150 - K220<br />
Lacquer sanding: K180 - K400<br />
Sanding paper recommendations:<br />
Aluminum oxide: for wood fine and lacquer sanding<br />
Silicon carbide: for lacquer sanding<br />
<strong>MB</strong>-Soft foam support brush<br />
offers best results while<br />
sanding profiled parts<br />
Slotting options:<br />
Which slotting is chosen depends<br />
on the profile layout.<br />
If a work piece with a milled groove<br />
of 8 mm has to be sanded, the<br />
slotting has to be smaller (5mm).<br />
Flat work pieces should be sanded with<br />
a slotting of 20 mm or wider.<br />
If an edge is damaged in the process<br />
of lacquer sanding of flat pieces, the<br />
slotting width has to be reduced.<br />
�<strong>MB</strong>-Flex<br />
we reduce your sanding<br />
costs!<br />
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