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EXBERLINER Issue 164, October 2017

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WHAT’S ON — Stage<br />

DONT MISS<br />

OUR land people stories<br />

Bangarra Dance<br />

Theater, an Australian<br />

Aboriginal and<br />

Torres Strait Islander<br />

dance company,<br />

are bringing their<br />

highly acclaimed<br />

trio of works by four<br />

choreographers to<br />

Berlin. Assembled to<br />

commemorate the<br />

death of their composer<br />

and musical<br />

director, the pieces<br />

fuse traditional<br />

folk costumes and<br />

dances with modern<br />

touches. Oct 26-28,<br />

19:30<br />

Mondparsifal Beta 9-23<br />

As the last act<br />

of the Berliner<br />

Festspiele’s Immersion<br />

programme,<br />

performance artist<br />

Jonathan Meese and<br />

Austrian composer<br />

Bernhard Lang adapt<br />

Wagner’s Parsifal by<br />

placing it in the future...<br />

on the moon!<br />

Meese will comment<br />

on the stage events<br />

with his own surtitle<br />

feed. In German,<br />

English, French, and<br />

ancient Greek, with<br />

German surtitles.<br />

Oct 15, 18:00; Oct<br />

16, 18, 19:00<br />

Interview<br />

“The directors I hire are<br />

the stars, not me”<br />

New Berliner Ensemble intendant Oliver Reese<br />

explains his vision for a “contemporary writer’s<br />

theatre”. By Daniel Mufson<br />

Oliver Reese has thick skin<br />

and an open mind. After his<br />

predecessor, Claus Peymann,<br />

dismissed him as a “representative<br />

of a generation of sensible, wellinformed,<br />

but tame administrators”,<br />

Reese declined to strike back, telling<br />

the Tagesspiegel he thought Peymann<br />

was “actually pretty nice”. Or maybe<br />

he just doesn’t mind the characterisation<br />

– his colleague Michael<br />

Thalheimer, whom he brought from<br />

Frankfurt to direct at the B.E., spoke<br />

similarly to Der Freitag when Reese’s<br />

appointment was mentioned: “The<br />

artist intendant, radical and unwilling<br />

to compromise, inspires fear.<br />

What’s wanted is the dramaturg<br />

intendant and culture manager.” In<br />

September, the B.E.’s new, sensible<br />

manager gave us a warm welcome<br />

in his modest office, where we discussed<br />

Berlin theatre’s past, present,<br />

and future.<br />

How do you negotiate the impulse<br />

to leave your own mark<br />

on the Berliner Ensemble with<br />

the responsibility of preserving<br />

its traditional identity? I think<br />

that the Berliner Ensemble in recent<br />

years has not been connected to its<br />

history. Claus Peymann was here for<br />

18 years, and he staged many plays<br />

that were just pure classical drama,<br />

like Faust and Three Sisters. But I<br />

Daniel Mufson<br />

think the Berliner Ensemble in its<br />

history has always been a house for<br />

contemporary, new writing. This is<br />

one of the few theatres that had two<br />

writers as artistic directors: not only<br />

Bertolt Brecht but also Heiner Müller.<br />

It has been a writer’s theatre and<br />

it has been a contemporary theatre.<br />

Your colleague Michael Thalheimer,<br />

like many others on<br />

the German culture scene, has<br />

expressed contempt for Yasmina<br />

Reza – he dismissed her writing<br />

as Boulevardtheater. But in<br />

Frankfurt you directed Reza’s Art<br />

– Oh, it’s beautiful! It’s a masterpiece.<br />

So what’s Boulevardtheater for<br />

you? Is there a place for it at the<br />

Berliner Ensemble? Sometimes. I<br />

don’t think it’s problematic if you do<br />

it every now and then. I think we really<br />

have a problem in Germany that<br />

we think badly of well-made plays.<br />

Art, for example, is a masterpiece<br />

because, when I directed it, I saw I<br />

couldn’t even change a word. Every<br />

word is necessary. And to have three<br />

men talking about nothing – a white<br />

picture – and make a worldwide hit<br />

out of it, you can see how brilliantly<br />

her dialogue is written. And therefore,<br />

no, I’m not of the same opinion<br />

as Michael. I think he pointed out<br />

that we shouldn’t have too many<br />

“entertaining” plays, but I think once<br />

a season, it’s nice to have something<br />

funny as well. There is so little good,<br />

funny work in modern theatre, and<br />

our actors need these kinds of roles.<br />

This season, for example, we’re doing<br />

Ballroom Schmitz, a musical radio<br />

play for the stage. I think a bigger<br />

problem is that we perform many<br />

plays in the Kammerspiele or smaller<br />

spaces, but where are the dramas<br />

for the big stage? I think those types<br />

of plays are primarily American and<br />

English dramas, and therefore the<br />

Berliner Ensemble will be a very<br />

international theatre drawing on<br />

international authors.<br />

It’s a strange mix you’re brewing:<br />

you wouldn’t normally see<br />

Frank Castorf and the American<br />

playwright Tracy Letts under<br />

one roof. Right, but we don’t have<br />

to be monochrome. Why should<br />

we? But there is a certain style, I<br />

think: It’s not amateurs, it’s not<br />

performance, it’s not dance, it’s not<br />

crossover; it’s acting a written text.<br />

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