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What made you go into this line<br />

of work?<br />

I got into law enforcement as a 19 year<br />

old. It’s something I had always<br />

wanted to do. My last role within the<br />

VRU really turned my world on its<br />

head. I just started to see a world<br />

where my two daughters faced real<br />

issues and challenges. I met some<br />

really interesting people including my<br />

now friend Jackson Katz. Jackson<br />

forced me to self-inspect my attitudes<br />

and behaviours. I have to say it was<br />

like getting hit by a 40-tonne lorry.<br />

Now that I see it I will never be able to<br />

un-see it. For me I just want to engage<br />

others in conversations that allow<br />

them to see the issues at play.<br />

Prevention for me needs to involve a<br />

dripping tap approach. Not one<br />

response will provide the solution. It<br />

will take many small steps and actions<br />

that together will make the difference<br />

we need.<br />

What, in your opinion is the most<br />

misunderstood, the biggest myth<br />

in the understanding of violence<br />

prevention?<br />

For me there are many challenges. The<br />

biggest for me is in how society defines<br />

the term violence itself. Most people<br />

will define violence as the physical<br />

stuff.<br />

“the work I was doing brought me into some conflict with other<br />

colleagues who simply thought that to tackle violence we<br />

needed to come down hard on the criminal. ”<br />

How do people react when you tell<br />

them what you do?<br />

In the last years of my service, the work I was<br />

doing brought me into some conflict with<br />

other colleagues who simply thought that to<br />

tackle violence we needed to come down<br />

hard on the criminal.<br />

I look at violence now through the lens of<br />

public health. This has allowed me to ask lots<br />

of questions about behaviour but at all times<br />

still hold people accountable. What we see<br />

playing out in our communities: the antisocial<br />

behaviour, the violence and the<br />

addictions are often rooted in early years<br />

experiences.<br />

We ignore these at our peril. This for me is<br />

why our collective response to domestic<br />

violence is so important. We will never have<br />

peace on our streets, and in our world until<br />

we have peace in the home. That’s fact. I’ve<br />

persevered and just kept pegging away, so<br />

much so that many colleagues and even<br />

family members now see the issues at play.<br />

The punch, the kick, the slap. A question I<br />

always ask of people is “If we simply<br />

define violence as the end result, how do<br />

we expect to prevent it?” That’s the first<br />

challenge. We need to think differently<br />

and widen our lens when it comes to<br />

violence. There are many other challenges<br />

including how we blame victims, media<br />

consumption, notions of masculinity.<br />

These may have to wait for another time.<br />

Which question makes you cringe?<br />

Not so much a question but a<br />

statement.<br />

As I say above I do a lot of work to<br />

prevent domestic violence and sexual<br />

violence. It’s clear that girls and women<br />

are most at risk and that men are the<br />

main perpetrators.<br />

<strong>CCChat</strong> <strong>Magazine</strong> - Making the Invisible Visible

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