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Dawn Wells garnered widespread fame for
playing Mary Ann Summers in the longestrunning
sitcom of all time, “Gilligan’s
Island.” Over the last five decades, she
has also been a producer, author and a
champion for many causes and charities.
But despite her many achievements and
recognition for her talent, intellect and
generosity, she has a sense of humor about
being a sex symbol. She is being featured
at the 1st Annual Palm Springs International
Comedy Festival and took time to discuss
her celebrated career.
How does it feel to be a featured
celebrity at the 1st Annual Palm Springs
International Comedy Festival?
I am honored to be included in the 1st
Annual Palm Springs International Comedy
Festival! I have been acting in comedies my
entire career, and it is nice to know that my
work in comedy is appreciated!
Your illustrious career has included
acting in television, film and theater, as
well as authoring self-help and a cooking
book. Also, you have had a one-woman
show at MGM, produced many projects
and spearheaded several humanitarian
causes and charities. What do you enjoy
doing most at this point in your career?
Whatever the next project happens to be.
I always look to the future—that is where
my enthusiasm goes. It is lovely to enjoy
the past, but my energy goes into the next
thing.
After all these years, how do you reflect
on your iconic role playing Mary Ann
Summers on “Gilligan’s Island”?
How can I not be enormously grateful to
have done work that so many people have
loved for five decades? No one could have
known that this sitcom would survive into
the 21st Century and still have such an
enormous fan base. I loved playing Mary
Ann, and I wish there were more women
like her in the world. She was honest,
resourceful, hard-working, level-headed,
supportive and generous.
Do you ever resent being exclusively
associated with Mary Ann and not the
numerous other characters you have
played in film and television?
But you see, I have done all of these other
roles—hundreds of them. I have played
tragedy, high-drama, slapstick, situational
comedy. Playing Mary Ann opened the
door for me to play just about every kind
of character that writers create for women.
How can I resent the opportunity that
playing Mary Ann brought me?

In 2005, you were one of TV Guide’s “50
Sexiest Stars of All Time.” Do you enjoy
your sex symbol status in addition to
accolades you receive for your work?
I don’t know how any person, no matter
what they look like, could answer that
question with a straight face. I am glad
people feel I am sexy. I was given good
genes at birth, and I have taken good care
of myself. Who does not want to hear a
compliment? But I do not dwell on it. I know
there has been talk for years: Who would
you prefer, Mary Ann or Ginger? I heard it
then, and I hear it now. Of course, it pleases
me that so many people pick Mary Ann!
What changes in show business stand
out for you since your early days in
Hollywood?
The end of the studio system in films
and the ending of the dominance of the
three networks in television (CBS, NBC,
ABC). Back then, when you were a hit on
television, 40 million people saw your
work. Today, one is lucky if five million see
them. Many more choices, but much less
viewership per show.
What advice do you have for young
comedians trying to make it in the
entertainment industry?
Learn how to be a professional. Be prepared
to work very hard. Don’t be afraid that they
won’t laugh. That’s how you learn. The only
failure is not trying. Also, be on time, and be
dependable!
You run Wishing Wells Collections,
making clothing for people with limited
mobility, and are the founder of the
Idaho Film and Television Institute, a
not-for-profit educational organization.
Also, you organized SpudFest, a regional
annual family movie festival, and have
been the chairwoman of the Terry Lee
Wells Foundation. What other causes and
charities are important to you?
Obviously, the upcoming Palm Springs
International Comedy Festival, or I wouldn’t
be going!
Tell me about your fans when they
recognize you.
I have the sweetest fans in the world. They
feel like they know me. They grew up with
me watching at night, or they grew up with
me watching me every day after school, or
they grew up with me watching me on cable
or on DVD and now on the Internet. They
keep growing up, and I remain the same
age!
Tell me a secret—a good one!
If the professor and I had both been single
when we made “Gilligan’s Island,” their
story would have ended much differently!!
For more information about Dawn Wells,
please visit DawnWells.com.
For more information about the Palm
Springs International Comedy Festival,
please visit palmspringscomedyfest.com.

BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
JOHN GRANT
BROOKLYN BOUND WITH ‘LOVE IS MAGIC’
ON NOVEMBER 30
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On November 30, American,
European assimilated singer, John
Grant will be at Warsaw in Brooklyn.
This is one performance that you
really need to attend. His music
is filled with twists and turns and
prophetic messages, with hints of
insanity in the best possible way.
Grant is a brilliant singersongwriter.
He was formerly a
member of the Denver-based
alternative rock band Czars, but
left to pursue a solo career. He has
recently released his fourth studio
album, “Love Is Magic.” I spoke
with him and found him to be
completely amazing, matching his
songs and music.
So you’re heading to
Brooklyn?
Yes, I’m excited!
Tell me about “Love Is
Magic.”
It’s basically just another
step towards me finding
my own voice, expressing
myself in the purest way
I know how. Up until this
point what I like to do
is tell it like it is, all the
ugliness and the beauty
of everyday existence. I
just feel like it’s all valid
moments, snapshots of
everyday life. You, living in
New York—I’ve lived there
myself as well. No matter
what you have planned on
any given day is but a tiny
fraction of what makes its
way into your brain. You
make your way around
the city, make your way
through the streets with
snippets of conversations,
and are bombarded by
advertisements, dealing
with whatever you were
dealing with inside of
your own head, not to
mention what’s going on
in your subconscious. To
me it’s just about everyday
existence. Pretty much you
can have anything happen
on any given day. You never
know what you’re going to
get. I mean, you can plan
to a certain extent, but
you have very little control.
At least I find that there is
quite a bit of an illusion as
far as how much control we
think we have.
The lyrics to your songs
are interesting and deep.
If there is any one artist
whose head I could get
into, I would choose
yours.
I’m not sure you would like
it too much.

So you tour quite a bit—in
fact, you are on a massive
tour right now. If you
could have your ultimate
stage fantasy, what would
you need to happen?
Yeah, that’s a great idea.
You know, I really love trees.
I wouldn’t mind having a
forest scenario. Do you
remember “The Princess
Bride”?
I do.
Do you remember when
they had to go through that
swamp? Just like one of
those dark, fantasy forests
with some of those bare,
scary-looking, crooked
trees and a harvest moon
tangled up in the branches
of the trees. That’s sort of
a scenario I would really
love. I suppose I love those
old horror sets. The fog
hugging the forest floor, just
sort of creeping over the
forest floor. It doesn’t really
sound too terribly difficult
to achieve.
It doesn’t actually.
I’d like to have a troop of
really sexy men dressed in
their preppy best, doing
like a chorus-line type thing
along with “Preppy Boy”
on stage. You know that
song? I’d love to have male
dancers.
I’m coming to that
concert!
Just really hot, gorgeous
men dancers, especially
doing all kinds of popping
and rocking, like the
incredible popping and
rocking that goes on in
hip-hop dancing. I’m totally
fascinated by that.
I don’t think that would
be too difficult to achieve
either.
Also, that’s a really difficult
question, because I can
imagine so many things.
Being inside of a Tempest
board. Or having the stage
look like a 3D version of
Centipede. Having video
mapping over the stage
so it looks like you’ve
emerged inside one of
those video games, like
Atari. I think that would
really be fabulous. Oh,
one more that just popped
into my head. I loved to
do string art when I was a
kid. It would be amazing to
have really incredible 3D
string art—actually having it
done across the stage. A
really intricate, cool string
art pattern. One of those
really cool mathematical,
teardrop patterns. Also,
to have video mapping on
the stage so that the entire
stage looks like it’s a paint
by number.
I love that. We can have
the hot boys paint it as
you sing.
I’m going to have to get
somebody on it.
What are you most
looking forward to on this
tour?
I love being in the States. I
especially love being on
the road in the
States: driving
through small-town
America, stopping at
the gas stations with
people just sort of
watching. New York is a
little bit overwhelming,
because I have clusters
of friends everywhere.

I lived in New York for a
while, so I have too many
people to see. It could be a
little bit overwhelming and
frustrating in that I don’t
get to see all the people
that I want to see. There is
always this tension that you
have when you know that
you are working, when you
are in that frame of mind
and it’s hard to get out of
that because your body has
to stay tense and ready. It’s
almost like being in a fight
or flight holding pattern.
I think you can probably
imagine.
Yes.
So New York can be
overwhelming. There is
so much you want to do.
I love being there, and I
have great friends, but also
I need some space to get
ready to do my thing on
stage. I want to be able to
prepare mentally for the
show. But I am looking
forward to the show and my
people. I spend a lot of my
life living in other countries.
I’ve lived in Germany, I’ve
lived in Sweden a little
bit, I spent a lot of time
in England, and I’ve been
living in Iceland the last
seven years. I’ve spent time
in the Ukraine and Russia,
and I’ve spent 25 years
learning foreign languages:
German, Russian, Spanish,
Icelandic. So I do a lot of
the “getting out into the
world” thing. I absolutely
love it, and I think I will
spend the rest of my life
doing that. But going
back home to your own
people and just feeling that
context, where you don’t
have to explain yourself
with a lot of references—
you know how it is. It just
fits, and it’s comfortable.
There are so many cultural
differences.
Yes, there are. It’s like a
never-ending story. I love
discovering new cultures
and attacking the languages
and stuff, but my music is
just chock-full of American
references. My whole life
people have said to me,
“You’re very European.”
I’m always thinking, “What
the fuck does that mean?”
I couldn’t possibly be
more American. Yes, I
am fascinated with other
cultures, and I have spent
a lot of time in Europe, but
still, on any given evening,
I’m still going to choose to
watch Lindsay Wagner and
the Bionic Woman with the
Fembots and everything
over Fellini.
If you could say anything
to your fans and followers,
what is it that you would
want to say?
I think I say everything that
I want to say in my music.
One of the things that I
think that I am learning
or achieving, one of the
gifts you get from going
through a lot in your life,
is compassion for other
stories and other people’s
experiences. So I guess
what I would want to say
to my audience is that I am
interested in you and your
stories. I’m bringing you my
story, which is my way of
finding my own community
in a world where I didn’t
necessarily feel like I fit.
So if you don’t commit
suicide, you go out and you
find your own community.
So I guess that’s what I’m
trying to do with my music.
It’s definitely not all about
me. Maybe my filter, my
thought, is that I’m an
individual and everything,
but it’s about connecting
with other people and
hearing their stories. I am
grateful for support from
people. I am grateful when
people come out and stand
there and watch me sing.
I would want people to
know that I appreciate their
support. Let’s face it, there
is a lot of fucking talent out
there. There is a lot of shit
going on out there. So the
fact that people choose
to interrupt their day and
make plans to come and
see you, that’s a huge deal.
I have one last question.
You’re a new crayon in a
box of 64 crayons. What
color are you?
I think my color would be
moonbeam. Sort of like a
silvery periwinkle.

BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
B R E N N A N
V I L L I N E S
‘I Am a Living Example That Someone Can Overcome
Some Great Obstacles and Still Live Their Dream’
Emerging new musician, singer-songwriter and
recording artist Brennan Villines has aced it with
his brand new EP, “Make It Work,” as well as
celebrating national adoration from his appearance
on Fox Network’s “The Four.”
Villines’ superior vocal ability, range and talent is
destined to set him apart from most current new
artists. With looks and personality, he’s got the
whole package. Brand new to New York City, Villines
is also an accomplished keyboard artist, learning the
piano from age three.
Openly out, he speaks freely about challenges that
have plagued his career, including addiction and
his being HIV-positive. Despite this, he is five years
sober, an ambassador for Sobercity and is raring to
follow his dreams and be an inspiration to others.
>>> INTERVIEW

Or you get recommended.
So I have auditioned for
“The Voice,” “American
Idol,” “America’s Got
Talent,” and I happen to
have a friend of mine who
was on the first season
of “The Four.” She kind
of let the produces know
that they should call
me. It kind of went from
there. I auditioned, they
accepted and that’s how it
happened.
full record now, and also
releasing a few singles in
between. I am definitely
looking forward to that.
The plan right now is to
just keep making music.
This is kind of like the last
two years of my life’s work,
doing the EP and trying to
really hone in on a sound
that I wanted to put out.
Before putting the EP out
I put some records out.
They were a little more
takes a lot to get set up in
a new place.
If there were one thing
that you could tell fans
and followers about you
that you’d want them to
know, what would that
be?
I am a very positive
person. I try to reflect
positivity in my music, in
my career and my lifestyle.
I am five years sober from
So you have a new EP
coming out?
It just came out.
Do you write your own
music?
Yeah, I do.
Do you plan on touring
to support the EP?
The EP, of course, has just
gotten released, so what
my goal is to maybe tour
a little bit. Perhaps open
for someone. Then I’m
going to be working on a
off the pop spectrum, like
jazz and singer-songwriter
music, whereas this record
is a little more focused on
getting it out there to a
wider audience.
Do you ever gig in New
York? We can we find
you?
I just moved here in June,
so I am very new. I had
my first New York show in
September at Rockwood
Music Hall. That went
well. I plan to continue to
perform in the city, but it
a methamphetamine
addiction, and my
message would be that I
am a living example that
someone can overcome
some great obstacles and
still live their dreams.
Is there anything that
you’d like to add?
Yeah. Look out for more of
my music in 2019, and that
I hope to be touring with
my sound, and I’d love for
people to follow me on
social media.

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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
Ian Frost
I had a heart to heart
with cover boy and New
York-based adult film
star Ian Frost. Hailing
from Argentina, Frost
worked hard to learn our
language and hoped
to make it in New York
City. Originally a Go-go
dancer, he soon realized
that the competition
was too great, and when
asked to make movies he
decided to try.
This is his story.
What made you
decide to do porn?
To be honest, I came
here to New York and
started dancing. There
are over 1,000 dancers
here in Manhattan, so
you can imagine the
competition. Every
now and then a porn
star would appear at
a club, and the fact
that he was a porn star
seemed to give him an
advantage. The rest of
us would get so upset,
because we went to
the gym every day,
took care of our image,
our face. It’s just
because they were in
a movie that they got
a lot more attention.
So then a guy who
saw my pictures on
Grindr asked me if I
ever thought about
doing porn. I told him
yes, but I didn’t want
to do it. I didn’t have
interest actually. He
turned out to be a
very famous agent and
good at his job, and I
could tell that it would
make a difference. I
told him that it wasn’t
about the money, but
that it had to be a very
good studio and good
co-stars. He did that,
and it turned out very
good. It worked.

And then?
I kept working in some other
gigs, like on Fire Island, and using
the image of Ian Frost. It was
profitable, I have to admit. There
were a few movies with good
quality and good co-stars, which
gave me enough material to keep
working. Lately I have to admit that
I like it. Many people refer to me
as a porn star, and I tell them I am
not a porn star...at least not yet.
I’ve been thinking about making a
career of it—not for the profit, but
I’m the kind of person that when I
do something I do it well.
Do you do just gay porn?
Yes.
How old are you ?
I’m 29. I still can say it!
What if you have to have sex with
someone that’s not a turn on?
Being professional. I can do it. It has
a lot to do with the chemistry.
I’m a size queen, so I have to ask:
How big, in inches?
About 7.5.
Is there anything else that you
would like to say?
What I’d like to say is that people,
when watching porn, never think
that we have lives. We have friends,
family, many of us even have children.
Nobody stops to think about that.
I had to tell my sister and my family
and my niece who’s 19 years old. It’s
just a moment to think that these film
stars have a mother and a father.
Well, if you like doing it I’m glad
for you that you are making a
career of it.
Everyone is so serious: the
producers, the photographers, the
directors. It’s a very professional
business. You think it’s just fun,
fucking, sex, but that has almost
nothing to do with it.
I actually know that having
interviewed many people in the
business. I kind of look at it as
an art form.
I don’t know if I would call it art. I
relate art with fashion. I would like
to be a fashion designer. In the
society that we live in, it seems
that everything that has to do with
sex is taboo. So maybe porn is
hard to classify as art. There is a lot
of creativity in the stories that they
plan.
Are you nervous about catching
STDs?
No. I’m on PrEP, so I’m protected
from the biggest thing that could
happen. I always, anyway, prefer
to use a condom. To me it’s more
hygienic. Whatever happens
there’s a treatment and a cure.
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ABOUT: REVENGE OF
Sextortion is the act of
blackmailing in which
sexual information or
images are used to
extort favors, money, or
sexual acts from another
person. A recent survey
from Cyber Civil Rights
revealed that about 13%
of smartphone users had
experienced someone
threatening to distribute
their sexual materials
online or to their friends
and family. Sure, taking
naked photos is common,
but what happens to
them after?
I work in a small office
of maybe 40 people,
and someone I work
with found images from
a couple porn films I
did years ago. They’ve
been showing them off
to other people around
work, and I hate it. I’m
not ashamed about
doing porn, it’s just not
who I am anymore. I also
just don’t want all of my
co-workers seeing me
naked. I haven’t talked
to my boss—IDK if he
knows—and I don’t want
to draw more attention
to it. What should I do? -
Male, Gay, 27
This is not OK and clearly
a form of workplace
harassment. Since you’ve
said you want to keep
it as quiet as possible,
I’d recommend you go
directly to the person
you know is doing it. Be
open and honest about
how you’re feeling; it’s
upsetting and you want
it to stop. I would refrain
from yelling, screaming or
threatening the person,
because those things
might end up getting
YOU in trouble. If they
don’t stop, go to HR and
then your boss. Document
EVERYTHING. If you
haven’t already, start a
collection of Word docs
that are dated and detail
what has happened.
My “ex” has tons of
videos/photos of us
together, and he’s
threatening to share
them online if I don’t get
back with him. I’ve been
hanging out and having
sex with him, because I
don’t want the photos
to get out. I’ve been
telling myself that he’ll
stop or just get bored
and break it off with me
again, but that hasn’t
happened. I thought
about deleting
THE PIXELS
everything from his
phone, but I’m guessing
it’s backed up. This
feels like a worst-case
scenario, and I don’t
know how to get out of
it. - Male, Gay, 24
Look, f* this dude. This is
insane, and you shouldn’t
be putting up with it.
I know you don’t want
the materials to get out,
but it might happen.
This sounds like the type
of guy who’s going to
release them during a
fight or because he’s mad.
In New York state there
are no laws stopping
revenge porn specifically,
but there are laws against
extortion and coercion.
First, let him know what
he’s doing is wrong and
how it’s illegal. Second,
get ahead of this. Let the
people you’re closest
with know that he is trying
to use this against you,
and they should ignore
any messages or emails
from him. And again,
document everything. A
few years ago, someone
broke into my Facebook
and email; they posted
messages and pics
between an ex and I all
over my wall. It was pretty
bad, but I got over it.
Worst-case scenario, you
can get through this.
Sex/Love/Relationship advice? Send your questions to: ThomasTalksAbout@gmail.com
@ThomasWhitfield84