Get Out! GAY Magazine – Issue 431 August 14, 2019

THOMAS
TALKS
ABOUT: CATFISHING
I started catfishing
my ex on a phone
app, and now I can’t
stop. Two weeks ago,
I was on an app and
saw a cropped off pic
that I instantly knew
was my ex. We don’t
talk anymore and it
freaked me out, so I
quickly blocked him.
That night, I was still
thinking about how I
missed talking dirty
with him, so I opened
up another account
(stupid, I know),
grabbed a few pictures
off the Internet and
sent him a message.
He replied right away. I
made up a whole story
about myself, and
now the messaging
has been continuing,
and he wants to meet
up. Obviously this is a
terrible idea, but I’m
loving talking to him
again. Can you see any
way out of this where
I’m not a monster?
-Male, Gay, 22
You basically have two
options: 1). Tell him the
truth, or 2). Delete the
account and knock it
off. Neither of those
are probably what
you’re hoping for, but
I don’t see any way
this is going to end in
your favor. You didn’t
mention why you guys
ended the relationship,
but if you’re not able to
talk at all, it probably
wasn’t good. If you
continue to do this, he
is probably going to
lose interest anyways
after not meeting, and
if you don’t stop now,
it’s just going to hurt
more later. Actually, it
would be in your best
interest to just tell him
it’s you. Be honest and
see what happens.
The worst is probably
that you’ll stop talking
again; the best, you
rekindle it.
This is going to sound
crazy, but for the last
three years I’ve been
“dating” someone,
and now I think he
might be catfishing
me! We met in a
chatroom—yeah, very
old school. We talk
constantly, but we’ve
never Facetimed; he
always has an excuse
not to. Any time I try
to get him to, he tells
me I need to trust
him. We haven’t met
because he lives in
Germany. I’d travel for
him, but he tells me to
save my money. I’m so
in love with him, but
I’ve also only spoken
to him a few times.
How can I tell if he’s
real or not? -Male,
Gay, 36
I feel like this is an
actual episode of
“Catfish.” Three years
is a long time to be
talking to someone who
you’re not even sure if
they are who they say
they are. And I have so
many questions! Have
you asked him if he’s
catfishing you? Would
you not want to be with
him if he is lying? Are
you planning to move
to Germany, or him
here? Is there a future
plan for you guys? And,
are you in therapy? I’m
concerned about how
you feel about yourself
that you’re willing to
ignore a lot of red flags
to stay in a relationship
that I can’t imagine is
satisfying. There is a
good chance this guy
is hiding something
from you, and you
gotta face that. Pro tip:
Google search those
pics and see what else
comes up! They may be
someone else.
Sex/Love/Relationship advice? Send your questions to: ThomasTalksAbout@gmail.com
@ThomasWhitfield84

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J A I R O D R I G U E Z
‘Channel Q’
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Good morning, New York! On your drive to and from
work, you can now listen to Channel Q and you can
listen to it in New York on 92.3 HD3, the premier
LGBTQ+ Talk Radio Network, “dedicated to celebrating
the LGBTQ+ community and their allies.” The brand
new radio station is all about diversity, inclusion, pop
culture, LGBTQ+ news and new music. Entercom Radio
launched the station’s expansion to six new cities,
including New York, in February bringing the number of
national affiliates to over 30 markets, including LA, SF,
DC, Chicago, Boston, Miami, Dallas, Las Vegas, Denver
and Seattle to name just a few. The program can also
be heard nationwide via the Radio.com app.
I spoke with morning host and TV personality Jai
Rodriguez, who appeared on the original “Queer Eye,”
and even received an Emmy for it. He vibrantly narrated
the characteristics of his radio show, “The Morning
Beat,” and what it is all about. The show began as a
passion project in Los Angeles and quickly grew, and it
is constantly expanding.
INTERVIEW______________
Tell me about your radio
show. Is it mainstream?
What is your definition of
mainstream?
I can listen to it in my
car, and it’s not Sirius or
satellite radio.
It’s mainstream in the car,
which is, I think, the more
shocking thing for a lot of
friends to stumble across
a familiar voice and say, “I
thought you were doing a
podcast!” Why would they
think that? This is an actual
coast-to-coast radio station
that’s available, like you
said, in your car.

CHANNEL Q morning show host Jai Rodriguez hosted PRIDE in San Diego last year
It’s also available on the Radio.com app
and on HD radio, and you can even shout
that to your smart speaker Alexa and just
say, “Play Channel Q on Radio.com.” So
you can literally listen to it everywhere that
you could possibly imagine.
How did you get started?
Channel Q came out of an innovation
team at Entercom Radio. We asked
ourselves what was missing from the
current radio landscape and discovered
there was a need for an audio platform for
the LGBTQ+ community and our allies, a
destination that included not just music,
but opportunities for meaningful dialogue
and discussion of the news of the day and
current events impacting both the LGBTQ+
and progressive communities.
What do you want your listeners to take
away from Channel Q?
That Channel Q is a destination where
members of the LGBTQ+ community and
our allies can come to hear themselves
being represented and reflected back. A
place where their stories are being told,
and a place where they feel they are being
heard.
If I want to listen to Elvis Duran, I put on
Z100. If I want to listen to Jai Rodriguez,
what do I put on?
In New York it’s 92.3 HD3. We have four talk
breaks an hour, like Z100 and a lot of the
other radio stations, where it’s music and
commercials and then four talk breaks.
They are about 5 to 7 minutes
depending if there’s a celebrity
guest or whatever. It’s a similar
format. Our program director,
Brian Holt, was the creator
and executive producer of
Ryan Seacrest’s first nationally
syndicated radio show. I have to
say, after listening to that show
for years I do feel that we have a
structurally similar vowel. So it’s
going to be really familiar to the
ear. The first time friends heard it,
it was really interesting, because
it was the first time that a lot of
my friends had been listening to
something on terrestrial radio that
was specifically geared for our
community, that wasn’t just dance
music. It actually has contests
to politics to popular culture to
health—I mean, you name it, we
cover it. Certainly in the morning
we cover all those kinds of
morning-relevant topics.
Are you familiar with WBLI, a
Long Island station?
I grew up with BLI. I’m from Long
Island. I lived on Long Island
until I was 18, and then I starred
on Broadway for half a decade,
and then I got my first Emmy
with “Queer Eye” and moved to
California after the episodes of
“Queer Eye” in New York. So I’m
familiar with WBLI.

CHANNEL Q morning show host Jai Rodriguez celebrated his 40th birthday alongside
Carson and Shira and his CHANNEL Q co-host Mikalah Gordon
How would you compare Channel Q
with a station like BLI?
I would say that Channel Q is a party
with a purpose.
It’s fantastic to know that I’ve been
working in this industry for 22 years.
1997 is when I started, and I’ve really
been doing this for a good amount of
time professionally. So let’s face it, when
I try to compare something to another
thing, I say we are covering the same
headlines of Kardashian to Trump.
Our station, for the first time, gives a
voice the LGBTQ community. We’ve
never had one in radio. Our media in
the U.S. covers Gay Pride and things
like that, but they don’t tell our story.
They don’t make headlines in the way
that Channel Q makes them a priority.
When you see something or you hear
about something, it makes you more
compassionate for that issue and gives
you a broader understanding of what
people who might be actually different
than you are experiencing. That mutual
experience is the thing that unites us to
realize, hey, we are all going through a
lot of the same stuff.
What kind of music do you
play?
Brian Holt, , our program and
music director, would like to say,
“music that makes you want to
move and inspires you.” So it
tends to be things that have a
good beat to them, we play a
wide variety of pop, dance and
EDM artists. Our playlist includes
LGBTQ artists such as Sam Smith,
Troye Sivan, Greyson Chance,
Janelle Monae, King Princess,
Adam Lambert and Erasure. We
also play artists that support our
community, artists like Billie Eilish,
Lady Gaga, Halsey, Ellie Goulding,
Robin Schulz, Avicii, Pink, Jonas
Brothers, Panic at the Disco!,
Calvin Harris, David Guetta,
Kelly Clarkson, Ariana Grande
and Lizzo, to name just a few!
Whew! And of course we play the
queen, Madonna, including a few
songs from “Madame X” CD,
including remixes by Tracy Young.
And other artist are popping up
weekly on our format.

Any success stories or
interviews you want to share?
A lot of the people that started
with a small following now have
17- to 20-something million
followers and end up getting
crazy radio play all over the
world. I have the fortune of
having a good friend that was
at Coachella with the Channel
Q Coachella house, and it was
K-Rock, Amp and us, and many
of the mainstream artists that
performed at Coachella were
overjoyed that there was an
LGBTQ station and wanted to
interview with us. That was not
the expectation we were told
coming in. We were told that
we were new and that we may
not get some of the big heavyhitters.
But instead, the heavy
hitters were more than eager to
join us and have a chat in our
Channel Q Coachella house.
Were you in New York for
WorldPride?
I was not. I was actually in San
Francisco in the parade, so it
was a great opportunity to kind
of see that as commercial as
we think it has become, it really
hasn’t. You go to San Francisco
and are reminded the “+”
of LGBTQ+. Those who are
gender-nonconforming are
having a hard time getting
work and all those things.
While I may have been working
in this industry for 22 years
and have accomplished things
that are groundbreaking in
terms of where we’ve come as
a community, we still have a
very long way to go. Until my
brothers and sisters experience
the same kind of life that I do,
and I have that opportunity,
I will continue to fight. Of
course, selfishly, I would’ve
loved to go to WorldPride,
but honestly from May till like
September I feel like my life
isn’t mine.
Where are you based? What are the
best ways to tune in?
Our main studios are based in Los
Angeles. We also have studios in other
markets like NYC, D.C., San Francisco,
Chicago, Miami, Boston, Philly, Seattle
and Palm Springs. Though Channel Q
broadcasts coast-to-coast, the fastest
and easiest way to connect and take us
anywhere is to download the Radio.com
app then just search for Channel Q.
9 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern
6 to 10 a.m. Pacific
Morning Beat with Jai Rodriguez
and Mikalah Gordon
1to 5 p.m. Eastern
Drop the Subject with Ally Johnson
and Jarrett Hill Drop the Subject
looks at politics and current
event news of the day through
the LGBTQ+ lens
5 to 7 p.m. Eastern
Two-hour Music Mix Show
hosted by DJ Alex D
7 to 10 p.m. Eastern
Let’s Go There with Shira
Lazar and Ryan Mitchell
10 p.m. to 12 a.m. Eastern
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Singer
SAMANTHA COLE
Hitches Her Way Back to
Recording and Performing
Recording artist and
songwriter Samantha Cole’s
career began when she was
the first artist signed to
Universal Records at age
19. Her self-titled debut
album spawned the Top 40
single “Happy With You“
and fan favorite “Without
You,” which was covered
by “American Idol” alums
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Aiken.
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Cole has co-written with
David Foster, Diane Warren,
Nile Rodgers, Richard Marx,
Robin Thicke, members of
Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Boyz II
Men, Hootie & the Blowfish
and many other greats. She
has toured with major acts
such as Backstreet Boys,
Shaggy and 98 Degrees.
She is also well known for
her hit “Luv Me, Luv Me”
with Shaggy from his multiplatinum
album “Hot Shot.”
She has also released a
number of successful dance
music covers, including
Animotion’s “Obsession”
and Monica’s “Angel of
Mine.”

Now Cole has released her first
single in over 10 years, titled
“Hitchhiker,” and she has taken a few
minutes with Get Out! to talk about
her career and her return with the
brand-new single!
INTERVIEW
You took quite a long hiatus. What
inspired you to return to making
music?
I never put behind music. I dropped out
of “the scene” when I got married—and
to have children.
Now I am divorced... that’s another story...
and my three beautiful kids [Max, Bella
and Arianna] are at an age now where
I can “return”! But, during most of the
decade I was also doing voice coaching,
consulting and mentoring of aspiring
talents through my company, Celebrity
Voice Coach.
One of your most well-known songs is
“Luv Me, Luv Me,” your collaboration
with international superstar Shaggy.
Have you worked with Shaggy since?
Shaggy remains a good friend. I recently
joined him on stage during a concert
of his in Stamford, Connecticut. The
audience goes wild whenever we sing
“Luv Me, Luv Me.” It is a fan favorite for
both of us. We have recorded a couple
of times since, but we have not released
anything. I am sure that we will record
together again someday. You never
know!
You made a successful career out of
making dance music following your
pop recordings. What were some of
the highlights of that era?
My cover of the ‘80s band Animotion’s
“Obsession” charted on Billboard and
got me booked into a lot of nightclubs,
but the biggest highlight of all was
getting to perform in the LGBTQ clubs
that were popular in the city back then,
like Spirit and Splash. I even performed
at an LGBTQ conference at the Jacob
Javits Center, which was amazing! There’s
no better feeling as a performer than the
love you get from the fans, and those
fans in the gay clubs really give you back
the love that you give them. It’s so fun!
Aside from my new single “Hitchhiker”
and forthcoming EP, I also have a dance
song called “Weekend Love” coming out
soon in Germany.

Where do you draw
inspiration from when you
write songs, and what is
your favorite part about
the process?
Lately, it’s been real life
that has really inspired
my writing. It sparked it. I
believe that I have been
through so much that I have
matured, and so has my
writing. I love coming up
with a concept and then
seeing the final product
come to life.
What inspired you to
write and record your new
single, “Hitchhiker”?
The experience of being
divorced and single again,
and back in the dating
world... it’s very surreal. So
much has changed, and no
one is personable anymore.
Everything is a click away.
I was on a Skype lesson
with my student Lindsay.
When she asked me about
a certain situation, I said:
“It’s OK, he was just another
‘hitchhiker,’” and BAM,
it came to me: This is a
song! I was literally on the
treadmill the next day, and
all these ideas came pouring out of me!
I had to stop and put them in my phone.
I was also in a tanning bed—I know,
it’s bad for you—and I had to jump out
because the melody came to me for the
chorus! It was insane! I was creative again
just like that! The rest fell into place so
perfectly with the music thanks to another
student, Joseph, who guided me in the
direction for the track. I wrote it in an
hour once I had the music. It was just
meant to be!
Do you have plans to release an EP or
full album?
Yes! Following a few single releases I will
be putting out an EP on October 23. I’m
extremely proud of this project. It’s very
close to my heart, and will be shared from
my heart. It’s the chapter of the story of
PHOTO CREDIT: JIMMY GRECO
the last 10 years of my life, all wrapped
up in one EP!
How can we get your new single?
You can stream my new single
“Hitchhiker”—which was just released on
August 7—on Spotify, and it is available
from all the leading digital music stores:
iTunes, Apple Music, Amazon Music,
GooglePlay, Deezer, Tidal and more.
There will also be a music video and lyric
video on my YouTube channel. Remixes
will follow.
INSTAGRAM: @official_samantha_cole
FACEBOOK: @OfficialSamanthaCole
TWITTER: @SingerSamCole
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