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We are always in demand and, with

Covid, we have had a waiting list,

which I really hate having. So, apart

from the perpetrator programme we

also provide a You Me and Mum

programme, which is a programme

that Women’s Aid in Northern Ireland

developed some years ago and it’s a

10-week programme for mums to

support mums in what they are going

through and also supports them in

managing their children’s trauma as

well as supporting themselves in

making safer decisions whether it’s to

leave or to stay and it’s a great way for

women to share in a group. We work

with children of the mums who attend

the YMM programme.

your training as a counsellor and so

then counsellors go off and aren’t

really sure what to do sometimes. We

also run a general low cost counselling

service for people in the area, although

we are doing all of our work, at the

moment, via zoom or skype and our

low cost clients contact us and we

speak to them about what they can

afford – it can be as little as £5 a

session. In the London areas,

counselling can be hugely expensive, it

can start from £60 to £150 a session

and that service is very well used as

well.

M: I had no idea you did all this and

that you had so many volunteer

“I think it’s really important, if we are doing specialist domestic violence

training that our counsellors know what they are doing because there is

very little training on domestic abuse when you are doing your training."

We also provide, as a separate, training

around domestic abuse so all of our

counsellors and volunteers are trained

before they start working with us. They

have to have 8 sessions of training –

what is domestic abuse? Introduction

to working with perpetrators even

though we don’t counsel perpetrators,

they also get four sessions of working

with women who have suffered from

domestic abuse and working with male

victims. The ongoing training can

include mindfulness for professionals

and whatever else comes up, trauma

that kind of thing, so counsellors are

all trained before they are able to work

with our clients. I think it’s really

important, if we are doing specialist

domestic violence training that our

counsellors know what they are doing

because there is very little training on

domestic abuse when you are doing

counsellors. That's really quite

amazing.

N: Yes, it’s really good. Obviously

counsellors are always looking for

placements but it’s no easy placement,

counselling survivors and men and

women who are still living with their

perpetrator, it’s really hard going and

I’m really proud of my counsellors,

they are amazing.

M: I’m interested to hear about the

work you are doing with female

perpetrators and how that came

about.

N: when I worked for DVIP in London

we had some women attend the service

who had used intimate partner

violence and abuse and when I moved

to Respect, I was on the phone lines for

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