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BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
LUIS FERNANDO
After a casual gig DJing a friend’s
rooftop party just this past spring, Luis
Fernando’s career exploded overnight.
He’s since become one of the city’s
busiest and most prolific beat-droppers.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Hello Luis.
Thanks so much for
chatting with us today.
So we’re already in late
August, which means
summer is almost over.
How did the season treat
you?
Luis Fernando: Honestly,
it has been one of the best
summers of my life. This was
the summer when I had the
chance to share my joy and
passion for music with the
world.
Where was the first place
you DJed here?
The first time I made my
DJing public was in May
of this year, at my friend’s
rooftop in Brooklyn. There
were so many people that
day, and things were so
crazy that a photographer
from the New
York Times
stopped by
and a picture
from it was
published in
a story about
the summer of
“young love,”
where they
mentioned
the party as
a “rager on
a rooftop in
Brooklyn.”
After that, I was
everywhere.
You’ve been DJing at the Q
in Manhattan a lot, which
is of course the hot new
venue of 2021. How do you
like spinning there?
I think the project and
space that Frankie Sharp
[and partners] created is
fantastic and ambitious.
I love that the producers
have been very intentional
about bringing a diverse cast
of DJs and performers, to
make sure that the crowd
and the parties hosted there
are diverse.
You’ve also been busy at
3 Dollar Bill in Brooklyn.
How did your flagship
party there, “HER,” come
about?
For years now, I’ve intended
to create spaces where
everyone in my community
feels accepted, seen,
celebrated, and desired. So
I put together everything I
love from a party, which is
bringing together people
from all the spectrums of the
queer community, bringing
my dolls and queens to give
us shows and lewks, and
having the best music to
dance to. It is very important
that people know that my
parties are very intentionally
inclusive.
What is coming up for you?
I have iterations of “HER”
coming up on September 25,
November 6 (my birthday)
and our big Halloween
one on October 22. I also
have a monthly party at the
Phoenix, which is always so
much fun.The next one is on
September 17.
What’s a song, new or old,
that is giving you your
whole life on this day?
“MacArthur Park” by Donna
Summer. I know, I know…
it’s been played for literally
years. But there’s a sense in
me that when I play it, I am
connecting to the queers
who came before me, to
the people who danced to
it again and again. Without
fail, it’s a song that makes
my dance floor go nuts. And
that’s my fuel. Seeing other
people having joy is what
makes me the happiest.
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Luis Fernando on IG @ luisfernandospins

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
ELI ESCOBAR
An iconic NYC nightlife
champion and native,
“Tiki Disco” co-founder
Eli Escobar reflects on
his long and storied
career as a club DJ
and recording artist
while preparing to spin
for several exciting
events in a rapidly
evolving nightlife
scene.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Has summer
been treating you well so
far, Eli?
Eli Escobar: Getting back to
DJing and nightlife…words
can’t do justice to how
exciting, healing, therapeutic
and even moving it was. I
always knew I needed this,
but I never realized how
much I’d fall apart without it!
During lockdown, were
you angry with the DJs,
promoters, etc. who tried
to carry on with parties or
did part of you get what
they were going through?
Of course I get it. More than
anything, I wanted to play
music and be around people,
etc. But it did feel like a huge
slap in the face to those
of us who were doing the
right thing and sacrificed so
much, to see others just go
about their business. More
than anything, I just feel
like blatant disregard for
people’s health and safety
is somewhat unforgivable.
I did get angry a lot; I won’t
lie. Right now, I am trying to
focus my energy on being a
bit more understanding of
how complex all of this is and
how there can, at times, be
grey areas in this discussion.
It’s not always black and
white.
What are some big changes
that have happened in
nightlife since you started,
from a DJ’s perspective?
There’s a lot! I’ve been
DJing a looooong time, haha.
Digital DJing, of course,
has completely changed
everything. Also, ticketed
parties…I don’t remember
that being a thing. You took
your chance at the door
wherever it is you wanted to
go. I’m not saying anything
is better or worse. I think
nightlife in New York has
been amazing for the past
decade or so. I think we will
look back at the recent years
(minus Covid, of course) as
a real moment in nightlife
history.
On September 11th, you’ll
be spinning a Madonna
party called “Into the
Groove” at 3 Dollar Bill.
OG queer folks will never
abandon our Queen M!
Well, I did one at the
beginning of the summer
and there were a lot of
young people there, too. I
confess that I haven’t really
loved much of her music in
a very long time now, but I
won’t ever get tired of the
glory years. I was obsessed
with her as a kid–like, seeing
Desperately Seeking Susan
opening day when I was
10 years-old, and posters
all over my wall. I think
her catalogue is sort of
untouchable, too. I mean,
there’s not too many artists
who you can play a whole
night of their music and still
realize you forgot some
songs afterwards!
Thanks, Eli!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Eli Escobar on IG @eliescobarnyc

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
PINK PANCAKE
Pennsylvania-born Michael Witkes
is perhaps best known for creating,
writing, directing and starring in
the acclaimed queer web series
“Interested In.” But in recent years
he’s also become a NYC drag star
on the rise, with a unique aesthetic
all her own. Have a taste of Pink
Pancake!
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: You seem to be involved in
tons of projects this summer. Is it all a
challenge to balance?
To be honest, it really can be. In addition to
drag, I’m also a writer/actor. This summer, I
produced the second season of Interested
In, a queer series I wrote. It was a huge
undertaking and was delayed because
of Covid. And on top of that, I dove head
first into drag, which has been so fun and
rewarding. I’m used to wearing many hats,
but it’s not easy! I’ll say that.
I bet! What inspired the characters and
stories of Interested In? I’m guessing
there’s a lot of autobiographical stuff
there.
The initial impetus to write came from
my total confusion after I came out of
the closet. I thought that I would just
immediately accept myself, but it’s
obviously a much longer journey to selfacceptance.
At the time, all the queer
stories ended with the queer characters
coming out—or they didn’t survive to the
end of the story. So I wanted to start the
story right after the closet and showcase
a character learning to love himself for the
first time, highlighting unapologetic queer
sexuality as he starts to shed his shame.
In so many movies and shows, they pan
away from the gay sex scenes and strip
gay relationships of queerness. So, it was
important to me to highlight that.
And what inspired you to become a drag
queen?
It’s hard to say how Pink Pancake was born.
There’s always been something in me that
felt confused by my gender and felt stifled
by the notion of “masculinity” and feared
my natural feminine side. So, Pancake
was born from that desire to explore the
limits of gender. It’s also a love letter to my
childhood. I’m now able to do all the things
I wanted to as a kid, but instead I turn the
toys into costumes.
Where do your look inspirations come
from?
I like to say my looks are Club Kid meets
second childhood meets genderfuck. I like
to bring a full concept to my costumes and
lip syncs.
What’s coming up for you?
I’m finishing filming Season 2 of Interested
In. So be sure to stay tuned for that, and
watch Season 1, if you haven’t already. I’ll
also be competing in “Drag Wars All-Stars”
[at Pieces Bar], so come out and support
the dolls!
Okay, last question: What’s been the
song of the summer for you?
I mean…the middle school girl in me has to
pick “Good 4 U!”
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Pink Pancake on IG @hausofpancake

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
MOROCCO KENNEDY
Despite coming from
Texas, this slender and
edgy young queen has
a very impressive New
York drag pedigree. And
while she’s serving us
fierce looks on stage
and on camera, Morocco
Marrakech Kennedy is
also gracing our retro
punk fantasies while
paving the way for the
new generation of drag.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Hi, Morocco. I
guess you’d be considered
a Covid Queen, i.e. one
of the new generation
of queens that sprang
up here in NYC during
lockdown.
Morocco Kennedy: Well,
I’ve been doing drag on and
off in Texas since 2016. I
jumped into the Brooklyn
drag scene three months
ago. I started with the lip
sync competitions–the
first at Janelle No. 5’s “Are
You the Next Diva,” and
then “Drag Wars” at Pieces
and “Polish the Queen” at
Playhouse in the city.
The scene has already
changed so much here in
just those three months.
Yes, nightlife has definitely
picked up. There are so
many shows, and I think
people being trapped inside
for so long has motivated a
lot of queens to take this as
their opportunity to really
glow up. There are so many
queens up and coming in
the scene right now.
You’re also a model.
I moved to NYC to pursue
modeling and ended up
working on drag more.
Eventually I’m sure both
paths will fuse together.
When I first visited NYC,
one of my favorite queens
was West Dakota, who’s
really a great example of
the direction I’d love to
take my drag and enter the
modeling world. I’m slowly
becoming known for my
walk in drag; I’m always
strutting and giving them
drag runway wherever I’m
at performing, or off-stage.
And what about your
stage numbers?
A lot of the numbers I do
are heartbreak songs.
Morocco is a romantic.
She’s nostalgic, and I grew
up around a lot of ‘80s
pop and rock music. I love
Blondie and Pat Benatar
and Joan Jett, but I also
do a lot of contemporary
music as well.
Let’s close on your native
Texas’ lunatic governor
Greg Abbott, who is doing
everything he can to get
his state to go maskless.
And now he has Covid,
too! What’s up with that
guy?
I’ll never understand Texas
politics, but with the new
census out, demographics
are changing. In 10 years,
things will be very different
in Texas. He’s feeding
into his own ideology and
what he thinks will get
him reelected. But yes, my
friends still in Texas think
he’s just a nut, too. Lord
help us all. Haha!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Morocco Kennedy on IG: @theyskinnylegend

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
X-EMMA
Getting her drag name
and look inspirations from
interesting places, new
dark glamour clown and
supermodel chanteuse on
the scene X-Emma is here
to slay.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Greetings,
X-Emma. How is your
summer treating you so
far?
X-Emma: My summer has
been hectic. I’ve been a
creature of the night…like,
it’s literally sleep all day and
then go out at night, like a
fucking bat.
T: Meh, who needs the
sun? Do you generally
prefer the “darker,” more
monstrous spectrum of
drag over the “I’m just a
pretty girl” end of things?
X: There is definitely a
duality to my drag. I hate to
be put in a box. I love to look
like a circus clown monster,
but I also love to serve
“beautiful fucking woman.”
I’m a model when I’m not
doing drag, and I’ve got to
utilize the face, honey.
Is drag less a “gender”
expression to you than a
visual art statement or a
cosplay sort of experience?
Hmm…I think all of the
above.
Fair enough. So, where are
you from originally and
how did the drag journey
begin for you?
I am from Orange County,
California. I started drag
in my bedroom, practicing
makeup and stealing my
mom’s clothes. It wasn’t
until I moved to New York
that I found a place where I
could actually express that
interest.
How might you describe
the numbers you like to
do today, and where you
get your look inspirations
from?
I want to tell stories. I want
to have concepts. I get my
inspiration definitely from
club kids of the past…and
also doing poppers.
How did the name come
to you?
I grew up with severe
eczema; it bled and hurt, and
I could never stop scratching
it. It was so bad, I got it
on my eyelids. Now I take
steroids, and it went away.
What an ordeal! So
“X-Emma” is like taking
ownership of that, in a way.
Yeah. I also just like the
name.
Good luck! And finally:
if X-Emma were in the
X-Men, what would her
mutant power be?
OMG, that’s a tough one! I
think it would be the power
to shapeshift. Oh wait,
maybe teleport. Or a fire
blender!
Why not all three!?
Thanks, X-Emma.
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow X-Emma on IG: @x.emma.the.queen

BY JIM SILVESTRI
Arguably the most popular and successful alum of “RuPaul’s
Drag Race” (but really, who would dare argue?), international
treasure Roy Haylock, aka Bianca Del Rio, is finally going back
on the road with an all-new world comedy tour. Lord knows, the
world needs her brilliantly irreverent take more than ever before.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Thanks so much for
talking to us, Bianca. One of the
last times I saw you, we were
judging the premiere of the Lady
Liberty drag competition at the
Q in NYC! Have you been asked
to judge, like, a billion local drag
competitions in the years since
your Drag Race win?
Bianca Del Rio: I have an opinion and
judge everything. I do it every day,
so it’s always nice when I get to do it
in an official capacity, so I don’t just
look like a bitch. I really do love local
drag queens, though, and always
encourage people to support their
local queens because that’s where
we all started. I worked in local bars
for many, many, many, many, many
years.
You’ve conquered multiple media
and industries since Drag Race,
but you still had time to make an
enjoyable surprise cameo during
this memorable season of Drag
Race All-Stars. Did anything about
the production’s current setup
seem really different from your
2014 turn on Season 6?
Not much changed…RuPaul still
didn’t talk to me. This time, it was
due to Covid restrictions. That was
actually the biggest difference: they
were very strict about following
Covid guidelines. It was a fun idea
I had, and the executive producers
were willing to go along with it. Little
did I know it would involve six Covid
tests, driving 260 miles round-trip
from my house in Palm Springs, and
spending an entire day on set for 30
seconds of air time.
During Covid lockdown, you
became a podcaster. How do you
enjoy doing it, and is it something
you can find time to keep up with
now that live drag has returned?
I didn’t think it was something I
would enjoy, so I turned down offers
to do a podcast for years. Then
during lockdown, I figured I might as
well give it a try since I didn’t have
much else to do. It turned out to be a
lot of fun. What worked for me was
not having any specific format. It
was just me chatting with incredibly
talented people who I admire and
find interesting. Sadly, I’ve had to
take a break from it, though. It’s very
time consuming for me, so I had to
put it on the back burner while I work
on my tour and other projects at the
moment. I’m hoping to bring it back
in a video format once things settle
down a little next year.
Also, you were part of a hilarious
scripted audio production, Hot
White Heist, co-starring the likes
of Bowen Yang and Cynthia Nixon.
I’m guessing, like with most voice
work, you recorded your scenes
without costars?
When Alan Cumming calls, you say
“YES.” I was lucky enough to record
my lines with Bowen Yang through
Zoom, so it made my jerking off
scenes much easier.

Lots of RuGirls become the face
of cosmetic products, but you’re
one of the few that is selling a
makeup remover—the Bianca
Remover is a top selling product
on Amazon! Given that you’re
known for your gorgeously
accentuated eyes, I’m guessing
that the makeup removal
process at the end of the night is
something you are an expert on.
No one could ever compete with
my beauty, and I’ll never reveal my
secrets. But lots of bitches need
to do something about their ugly
mugs, so I wanted to contribute to
the community by helping them get
rid of them.
On Point With:

Lol! Back to performing: Between the two
Hurricane Bianca films and your recent
West End run in Everybody’s Talking
About Jamie, you’re an experienced actor.
Do you have interest in playing non-drag
roles…maybe even drama?
Only in porn. I had all my content recorded
and ready to upload. That’s what started
the downfall of OnlyFans.
Jamie is coming to the big and small
screen. Your fans would have loved to see
you starring in this adaptation.
Well–spoiler alert–I make a small cameo
in the film as an art teacher named Miss
Haylock. I don’t know why they decided
to go with an Academy Award nominated
actor [Richard E. Grant] instead of me to
play Hugo/Loco Chanelle, but at least I got
a part. I attended two screenings of the film,
and it’s great! I’m anxious for everyone to
see it. It’ll be released on Amazon Prime
Video on September 17.
Lots of your fellow Drag Race alums
complain about online negativity from
fans and interactions with the franchise
or production that went wrong. I
don’t recall many times when you’ve
complained about that stuff. It seems you
can handle whatever comes your way.
Should all these RuGirls just be quiet and
grateful for their fame and opportunity
they got from the show or do you get
where some of them are coming from?
I treat fellow Drag Race alums like my
family: I don’t talk to them and don’t pay
attention to anything they say, because
none of it matters to me.
I still don’t get exactly what Kameron
Michaels was carrying on about regarding
that recent “lip sync assassin” Charli XCX
performance, do you?
All I’m going to say is no one can top MY lip
sync assassin performance. PERIOD.
You’re California-based now, but you
return often enough to your previous
home base of NYC. We always brag in
New York that we have the best, most
versatile (lol), hardest working queens.
Do you think that still holds up?
Back in the day, NYC was the only place
where you could see top drag queens,
but the drag scene has evolved so much
(in large part due to Drag Race) that you
can find some really amazing drag queens
all across the U.S. and the world now. In
fact, there was a gorgeous one working
security at the airport today. She got a little
too personal scanning me with that wand,
though.

You’re still the most prolific and busy
drag standup comic in the world right
now.
Busiest? I’ve been sitting at home for 18
months!
Is joke writing something you’ve always
been good at or have improv and being
“in the moment” always been the guiding
forces in your live shows?
I prefer talking about what’s in front of me
and just going wherever the moment and
observations take me. But you need more
than that for a 75-90 minute show for a
seated audience in a theater, so I need to
have some scripted material in there. Also,
you never know what the audience will be
like, so you need to have some material to
fall back on.
Do you think hecklers at your shows
these days just want that thrill of the
“public Bianca clapback?”
Hecklers can be very tricky. Some are fun
and give me fuel to work with, but many
of them think they’re funny and don’t
know when to shut up. The latter can risk
annoying me and the rest of the audience…
but that’s why Lady Bunny works security
for me. She just sits on their face to shut
them up.
I know everyone always asks you about
standup and today’s PC “censorship” and
the fear of being cancelled, but I kind of
feel like it would be so dumb to attack
you for insult comedy when that’s been
your brand all along. Do you think most
people understand that?
The people who come to see my shows
get it. That’s what they come to see and
those are the only ones I’m worried about
pleasing.
At long last, starting in September, you
are going back on the road in America
for the Unsanitized comedy tour. Putting
all that material together and planning
all the tour stops seems like such a
massive undertaking. Are you itching to
get back out there or maybe dreading it
a little?
Always itching, never dreading. I’m always
grateful getting to work and I’m certainly
looking forward to it after being home for
so long with this pandemic. I’m extremely
lucky to get to do what I do. You’ll never
hear me complain about it. I leave that up
to those other queens on Twitter.
I’m guessing by the title of the show–and
your tendency towards topical content–
that you’ll have some Covid material.
Are you blown away by anti-vaxxers
and their conspiracy theories or are you
unsurprised that that’s a thing?
Am I surprised there are idiots in the
world? NO.
Unsanitized comes to New York at
the newly christened Palladium Times
Square (formerly RAD) on September 17,
October 14 and October 15.
Oh, is that the name of the theater this
week? It was the Playstation Theater the
last time I was there. In case it changes
again in the next couple of weeks, tickets
are available at [my site], lol!
Lol! And then on October 27,
Unsanitized will be at the Hackensack
Meridian Health Theatre in Red Bank,
New Jersey. Tell us more about the show
and what we can expect.
I always say expect the unexpected at my
shows. Every show is different, even from
one night to the next. I have an outline for
the show and have some scripted material,
but a large part of my show is talking about
people in the audience: giving them advice,
answering their questions, reading them,
etc. Every audience is different, so every
show is different to an extent.
After this American leg of the tour,
what’s next for you?
I’ll be traveling to the UK to reprise my
role in Everybody’s Talking About Jamie
for a UK tour of the musical for a couple
months and then going back to L.A. with
the company for a five week run, which will
be the American premiere of the musical.
Then I continue my Unsanitized comedy
tour in Canada, Mexico, South America,
Europe, South Africa, Israel, Asia, Australia,
and New Zealand.
Finally, a random question: Will the Sex
& The City reboot be watchable without
Kim Cattrall?
I’m surprised you thought it was watchable
the first time. No shade. Just facts. You
didn’t really expect a nice answer from me,
did you?
Lol, thanks so much, Bianca, and have an
amazing tour!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Bianca at www.thebiancadelrio.com

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BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point
With:
KENNI JAVON
You will never forget your
“DickAppointment” when Kenni
Javon’s in town–that “medium ghetto”
kiki he created is an underground
favorite of queer POC across the city
and will soon have a new home.
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Hello Kenni!
You’ve certainly kept busy
this summer. But what
are your thoughts on our
current Covid situation?
Should we prepare to
go back to lockdown,
or maybe a proof of
vaccination at the door will
suffice?
It’s so much. To be honest,
I’m a little on the timid side.
I’m only going out if I’m
required, i.e., a booking.
Vaccination at the door
is cute, but a lot of the
vaccinated people have
tested positive…so I almost
think they should put us back
on lockdown. I might take
the month of September
off, depending on the Covid
numbers.
So where are you from and
what were your creative
interests while growing up?
I’m from
Canton, Ohio
and I spent
high school
and my early
adult years
in Columbus.
I moved to
New York
six years ago
as a stylist
assistant/
intern. I’ve
always loved fashion, clothes,
and nightlife.
Tell us how your party
“DickAppointment” came
about.
I wanted to create a raunchy,
fun, safe place for black and
brown queers. I consider
myself to be “medium
ghetto”. I grew tired of
hearing and feeling the
same vibe everywhere–it’s
either techno, Spanish, or
something else I don’t always
want to listen to. I had to
change that and do it for the
“medium ghetto” people like
myself! A lot of the people
who are out here on the
scene aren’t from here. They
came from small ghettos or
urban areas, and somehow
it’s like a majority of black
people share an upbringing.
When did you become a
DJ?
After I started
DickAppointment. I had
a sound in my head that I
wanted played, and I couldn’t
express that or have anyone
else play that sound, so I took
matters into my own hands
and became a DJ.
Wow! What’s your favorite
song to play now at DA?
That would be “Pull Up” by
Priceless Scott. I came across
the song on someone’s
Instagram story in the
background and had to
find it. The chorus of the
song goes, “I came here for
a DickAppointment, not a
disappointment.” I fell in love!
It’s so fitting for the parties,
and on brand. Sometimes
I’ll just loop that for a good
minute, to remind the girls
they’re at DickAppointment.
Where and when
might we get our next
DickAppointment?
Lol, I can’t say. It’s a secret.
But we’re off to somewhere
bigger and more exclusive!
It’s gonna be a gag.
Can’t wait! To close: Rapper
DaBaby apologized for
his bizarre and offensive
comments. Should we
forgive him?
FUCK HIM! He didn’t
apologize, his publicist
apologized…and it still didn’t
work.
Thanks, Kenni!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Kenni Javon @kennijavon

BY JOHN STEIN
Sweet
Sound of
Summer
Cheyenne Elliott
Bares Her Soul
in “Sugarcane”
Summer may be nearing its end,
but not if Cheyenne Elliott has
anything to do with it! The rising
R&B star brings in the sweet, sultry
sounds of the sunny season in
“Sugarcane,” her new acoustic
single that explores the evolution
of love in a relationship.
“Couples often take detours from
each other as they go about their
daily lives,” says Elliott from her
Connecticut home. “It’s important
for partners who may have grown
apart to reconnect and give their
union one more try, because
sometimes, though they have
grown and matured separately,
the core of their relationship hasn’t
changed and their love remains.”
Cheyenne Elliott co-wrote
“Sugarcane” with Lisa Gressett
and co-produced the song with
Gary “GC” Cheung and Joseph
“Mr. Hit Record” Lopez. Its music
video, directed by Tony K, was
shot in Las Vegas and echoes the
single’s warmth and comfort. It is
available on YouTube.

“The message of “Sugarcane” is
that what is meant to be can truly
come full circle,” Elliott continues.
“Real love does not diminish.”
Cheyenne Elliott was born into a
world of song. Her grandmother
is five-time Grammy Award
winner Dionne Warwick, and her
family includes the late Whitney
Houston, Cissy Houston, the
late Dee Dee Warwick, retired
opera diva Leontyne Price and
hit music producer Damon
Elliott. Even her father, David
Elliott, is an accomplished
vocalist and songwriter who cowrote
Luther Vandross’ Grammy
Award winning hit, “Here and
Now.”
She describes her favorite music
as alternative R&B and soul
with Sade, Snoh Aalegra, and,
of course, members of her own
family, as influences. “I love
powerful females in the music
industry who aren’t afraid to
expose their passion and pain in
their music.”
Cheyenne Elliott has released
several successful singles,
including a cover of Sam Smith’s
“Too Good at Goodbyes”
(released via Republic Records,
as performed on the FOX TV
show, The Four) and “With You”
(its remix charted on the Top 20 of
the Billboard Dance Chart).
“I am feeling blessed to finally
be able to share my soul with the
world,” Cheyenne Elliott says. She
plans to release an EP and more
singles in the fall.
For more information, follow Cheyenne
Elliott @ thecheyelliott. Fans can also
text Cheyenne directly at 917.719.0905

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THAN EQUALITY
An interview with Cathy Renna (She/her/hers)
National LGBTQ Task Force Communications Director
BY ANTHONY T. EATON
decades, the Task Force would
play an instrumental role in
establishing a new narrative in
the fight for equality.
In 1973, when I was six, most
states had sodomy laws,
homosexuality was considered
a mental illness and it was not
uncommon for youth who came
out to be institutionalized. In
October 1973, Dr. Howard
Brown, Martin Duberman,
Barbara Gittings, Ron Gold,
Frank Kameny, Nathalie Rockhill,
and Bruce Voeller founded the
National Gay Task Force, today
known as the National LGBTQ
Task Force. Over the next four
Back then, I had no concept of
the struggles and barriers that
the community I would one day
become part of had to face.
Over the years, I would come
to understand the fight for
equality and develop a great
appreciation for the individuals
and organizations that have
fought so hard for what we
have today. So it was a great
pleasure to ask Cathy Renna,
National LGBTQ Task Force
Communications Director, some
questions about her long-time
involvement in the fight for
LGBTQ+ equality and the Task
Force.
Having both come out in the
early/mid-1980s, we share
that time as a reference point
for what it was like for our
community. On coming out,
Cathy said she was “very
blessed to have an incredibly
supportive family and circle of
friends and community in New
York and Italy.”

Cathy shared the fact that for
someone who was a pretty shy
teenager, she feels it’s a miracle
to have evolved into someone
working in media and the public
eye. The willingness to be visible
and fight shows fearlessness;
however, she knows the value
of time spent on self-care and
growth, and her work is driven
by passion and hope, not anger.
Cathy’s work can be described
in many ways, but it is primarily
education and activism, and her
goal is to create change, make
our community less abstract to
the larger culture, and change
hearts and minds--for all of us.
Cathy has been at the forefront
of some of our community’s
greatest wins regarding equality,
including marriage equality, the
repeal of DADT, and educating
the public about our diverse
community through the media
and storytelling,
“This is not a ‘job’ for me, but a
vocation, and I cherish the fact
that I have had the chance to be
part of history and change. I am
most proud of seeing the end
result.”
In the early 1980s, as was true
of the decades preceding it,
activism often took the form of
a protest or march. While those
methods remain the same, the
advent of social media and our
ability to instantly connect has
changed the way we interact,
communicate, and organize.
Cathy’s work and dedication to
the community certainly make
her a role model. When I asked
her if there was anyone she
viewed as a role model, some of
her choices included pioneers
like Barbara Gittings and Frank
Kameny, Barbara Smith, and
Monica Roberts. There also were
more radical activists in groups
like Queer Nation and ACT-UP.
Like our own community, her role
models are incredibly diverse.
“Some folks have been critical to
my learning how to navigate the
media and political landscapes--
individuals who were thrust into
the public eye for many reasons.
These include Judy and Dennis
Shepard, the parents of Matthew
Shepard, and the young trans
and non-binary activists I work
with today who are standing
up for themselves and our
community.”
In the 1990s, Cathy worked for
the watchdog group GLAAD.
That’s where she grew up
as an activist. Her mission
has remained the same: fair,
accurate, inclusive media
representation of the diverse
LGBTQ+ community. Her local
and national media work and
acting as a spokesperson who
regularly speaks on LGBTQ
issues have prepared her for
where she is now.
The Task Force--an organization
Cathy’s worked with for years--
has a commitment to diversity,
progressive and intersectional
work, and a radical accessibility
that aligns with Cathy’s values. “It
is a political and personal home
for me.”

As Communications Director
for the Task Force, she
oversees the internal and
external communications
and works to make visible
the extraordinary activism of
the staff and programs. From
policy and field work to their
Creating Change conference,
she amplifies the voices of
their leadership, in particular
the executive director, Kierra
Johnson.
“The National LGBTQ Task
Force advances full freedom,
justice, and equality for
LGBTQ people by building
a future where everyone can
be free to be their entire
selves in every aspect of their
lives. Today, despite all the
progress we’ve made to end
discrimination, millions of
LGBTQ people face barriers
in every aspect of their lives:
in housing, employment,
health care, retirement, and
basic human rights.”
The National LGBTQ Task
Force is the country’s oldest
national LGBTQ advocacy
group. To learn more about
the Task Force, what they
do, and how you can get
involved, visit their website
and follow them on social
media.
www.thetaskforce.org
www.twitter.com/thetaskforce
www.facebook.com/thetaskforce
www.instagram.com/thetaskforce
www.youtube.com/thetaskforce
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On Point
With:
MEL INCARNATE
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: You’ve been
super busy lately, hosting
and guest starring in shows
while promoting music. Is it
fun to be busy after all that
lockdown boredom?
Mel Incarnate: Oh my God,
hell, yes. I’m super grateful
for being busy right now.
I’m a triple Capricorn, so
that’s kind of my tea. I’m
also in the earlier stages
of transitioning, so that
also comes with its ups and
downs.
So, where are you from
originally and what
were your interests
while growing up in
regards to music, fashion,
performance, etc?
I’m originally from
Birmingham Alabama. So,
a lot of my early influences
with music were Christian
An exciting new recording artist and
live performer emerging from Brooklyn
nightlife, Mel Incarnate is keeping
a brand of excitement and edgy
excellence in the family.
and country
music, as my
parents were
southern
Christians.
Being the
faggot that I
am, I sniffed
out the girliest
pop I could
possibly find
on LimeWire:
Britney Spears,
Kesha, anything
slutty and fun.
Another great
Brooklyn queen, Charlene
Incarnate, is actually your
biological sister. Were
you a support system for
each other when you were
growing up in that religious
household?
Honestly, the environment
we grew up in catered to
nothing but fear. We were
raised in a pressure cooker
of homophobia, so we really
did not get along until we
found ourselves separately.
Did you just recently begin
recording music?
I am a Covid tranny and a
Covid artist. I found myself
in the pandemic, and I found
a way to express myself
through immense isolation.
I began writing around
November 2020, and since
then have written and
recorded seven songs, so it’s
a fairly new moment.
I’m really enjoying your
latest single “About
Fashion,” which is a little
bit about style but largely
about all the beautiful
flaws and traits that make
us unique! How did that
song come to you?
I was on my way to a photo
shoot, and the photographer
asked me, “Who are you
wearing for the shoot?”
And it really pissed me off,
because I hate that tone of
the fashion industry. And I
didn’t have the money to buy
a cute look because I had
just spent money on getting
filler in my face. And I was
so heated from it, I wrote a
full song. I expanded on that
idea and was like, everything
that I’m ashamed of is my
fashion. I was realizing that
I’m just gonna have to own
everything about myself and
be my own cheerleader.
What’s coming up for you?
I have a music video coming
out around Bushwig, I have
a single coming out mid-
September and another
in early October and then
I’m dropping my EP around
Halloween.
What advice could you
give to all the queer kids
out there who are stuck in
homes like where you grew
up?
Listen to that part of yourself
that wants to break free and
wants to get out. Let that
carry you into a new life
whenever that opportunity
comes. You will know.
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow Mel Incarnate on IG @melincarnate

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