Get Out! GAY Magazine – Issue 488

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ISSUE #488
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BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point With:
CIVILIZATION
One of a few recent transplants from
Boston drag, the queen known as
Civilization has already made her mark in
NYC…and has her first GLAM nomination
to boot! [Cover photo: Eric Magnussen]
PHOTO CREDIT: ERIC MAGNUSSEN
Interview >>>
Thotyssey: Hello,
Civilization. Happy holiday
season! Are you watching
stupid Christmas things on
TV every day or is that not
your thing?
Civilization: ‘Ello! I’m
actually not much of a
holiday special watcher, but
I have been finishing up the
winter anime season.
So, you were originally
known as a Massachusetts
queen. Is that where you’re
from?
I am actually a military
brat! Growing up, I moved
around a ton. I started drag
in upstate New York (the
Poughkeepsie area) when I
was in college and moved to
Boston after I graduated for
three years. But I’d definitely
say that when I moved to
Massachusetts was when
I started to take drag more
seriously.
And what’s the
story behind
your name?
My government
name is
Mayan, like
the civilization.
Growing up,
people would
never pronounce
my name
right when I
introduced
myself to them,
so I always
introduced myself saying,
“Hi, my name is Mayan, like
the civilization.”
As a queen who first
started performing in
Boston, how has the
transition to NYC drag
been so far for you?
Honestly, it’s been great.
I truly feel like I can finally
express myself fully how
I want to, without having
to worry about whether
the audience will “get it.” I
honestly couldn’t even have
imagined the amount of
support I get here and how
much people really seem
to appreciate and value my
type of drag. But mostly,
it just feels good to be
surrounded by so many POC
performers that come from
the same shared experiences
as me.
You’re actually part of the
recurring cast of Devo
Monique’s Wednesday
night show at Metropolitan
in Brooklyn, “Dream
Queen!” Tell us what your
time with that show has
been like.
It’s been really cool! I
started working the door
as a fill-in one week during
the summer, and Devo kept
me on as the resident door
goddess. It’s the first weekly
gig I’ve ever had, and it has
taught me so much about
constancy. I knew Devo for
years before I even moved
to New York, and it’s been so
fulfilling to do this show with
my sister after talking for so
long of what it would be like
if I moved here and we could
actually do drag together.
I also have loved getting
to know the staff and the
regulars that come in.
You often do the door
there as well as numbers,
and now you’ve been
nominated for “Best Door
Queen” in the GLAMs.
Congratulations!
Honestly, I didn’t even
expect it. I had no clue
anyone was even nominating
me…but I’m honored.
Last question: Even though
you’re not so festive this
time of year, what do you
want from Santa?
The dick down of my LIFE!
#bottomrights
Tie a bow on it, Santa!
Thanks, Civilization!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow @itscivilization

BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
The Wedding of
James Pearse Connelly & Wallie Wachter
PHOTO CREDIT: ERIN KATE PHOTOGRAPHY
On December 19th, multi-
Emmy Award winning production
designer James Pearse
Connelly and Netflix Production
executive Wallie Wachter will
be celebrating their Hollywood
romance at a blissful destination
wedding. The two will be tying
the knot at a place they’ve never
been or seen in Banff Springs,
Canada, where they will enjoy
the beauty of a true winter
adventure.
Connelly has a full service design
company that specializes in previsualization
and environments
designed for television, special
events, and residential and
commercial projects. He has
created sets for shows including
The Kelly Clarkson Show (on
which he recently appeared). He
has also designed projects for
The Voice, Top Chef, MTV’s Video
Music Awards, and many others.
He is currently starring in the
HBO MAX series Craftopia.
Wachter has been with Netflix
for six years as a manager of
production for You, Virgin River
and Locke & Key. Together,
after two years of planning,
they are working with Phil
Crozier in Alberta for editorial
photography and decorative
B-roll photography.
This is sure to be “the wedding
of the century”!

Interview
Hey, guys.
Congratulations on your
wedding!
PHOTO CREDIT: ERIN KATE PHOTOGRAPHY
James: I thought we
were done planning it.
Truth be told...After a
call just about a moment
ago, we’re still planning
it! But now I’m more
excited. We are leaving
here in a week.
What made you decide
that you wanted the
details of your wedding
in an interview?
James: Interesting
question...It’s exciting.
I feel like weddings for
gay men are unique and
they are hopeful and
optimistic, and sharing
that lifestyle is just
coming to be publicly
accepted within the last
20 years. It should be
penned and something
that we share.
You’re getting married
in Canada, so my
question to you is: Just
in case, down the line
you want to divorce,
will you have to get it
in Canada?
James: No, we are
signing our paperwork
here in Los Angeles
just after the wedding.
We will be married in
Canada, but we will also
be married here in the
states.
James, what exactly do
you do when you’re not
planning weddings?
James: I feel like
I’m always planning
weddings...I’m a
production designer for
television. So it’s my job
to design scenery for
these shows. Last year,
we did 74 television
shows. So oftentimes,
television shows could
be compared to brides.
They have big opinions
and sometimes they
have no defined vision.
So I would say it’s kind of
similar.
Wallie, what do you do?
Wallie: I’m more of the
nuts and bolts person
and I oversee a handful
of Netflix original
dramas. A lot of my
productions are currently
in Canada, so it made
sense: Why not get
married where I work?
We have a pretty hefty
plate on our hands.
How did you meet?
Wallie: This was
obviously a Hollywood
love story. I was so
proud to tell my family
and friends that we
didn’t meet on an app.
We actually ran into each
other at the Creative
Arts Emmys. James was
up for a nomination and
I had been working on
the studio side of that
project. My manager at
the time had made the
introduction by telling
me that I had to meet
this fantastic, creative
production designer. It
was like shooting stars
in passing. We met each
other in the chaos of the
lobby. I met his mom
briefly and then we went
our separate ways with
our evenings. My patent
leather, white shoes
stuck in James’ brain
because he knew me as
a patent leather, white
shoe guy.
James: Then I reached
out to his boss. Two
days later, I was thinking,
“Who was that guy?”
When I reached out to
his boss, I guess they
were sitting next to each
other and I guess he had
Wallie at the conference
table in his office.

So he kind of
connected us and
then I reached out
to him personally on
Instagram. But from
there, we met up for
dinner and never really
stopped. We dated
maybe three or four
days and then wound
up living with each
other. It’s so much fun.
I like that story.
Sounds like both of
you are super busy,
so what challenges do
you feel you’re going
to face as a married
couple?
James: We are very
busy, but I will say
that we both know
each other as super
productive people. I
think the business is
just part of our day to
day. We like that. We
enjoy projects. If we’re
not doing this, we’re
doing landscaping in
the backyard or we’re
PHOTO CREDIT: ERIN KATE PHOTOGRAPHY
planning an Easter
dinner or brunch and
having people over.
We are constantly
planning different
events for entertaining.
This wedding has
taken up quite a bit
of time for us the last
nine months, and we
are really excited. It’s
turning into quite a
large event. I’ll say
this: I’m 41 and I’ve
definitely been through
a few relationships, but
we rarely bump heads.
I think that that’s a
good sign. We’ve
had conflicts maybe
a handful of times
throughout the years,
but we know when
things get escalated to
just take a break. We
know that we should
resolve it within 24
hours by talking about
it. It always starts
with an apology and
then an explanation.
We know that if we
can’t handle it, there
are professionals that
can. If we had a tax
problem, we would go
to an accountant; if we
had a legal problem,
we would go to a
lawyer; and if we felt
we had a personal
problem, we would go
to a therapist. We are
not ashamed to say
that. So those are the
techniques that work
for us, and we think
we’re very happy so
far.
Wallie: We are the
best complements for
each other. James is
definitely more of the
right brain and I am
the left brain.
So how many
wedding attendees
so far?
James: We are up
to, I think, 70. We
expected cancellations
beforehand, but we
haven’t seen any.
That’s pretty
remarkable.
Wallie: It’s kind
of poetic in a
way since we
chose this place
because we’ve
actually never
been there.
We wanted to
go on a trip to
a destination
unseen, with
friends and family.
But coming from
Los Angeles
and a freelance
community of
entertainment
and stuff, I’ll be
honest with you,
it’s so nice to
get away from
the pomp and
circumstance.

We boiled it down to
a really pure attendee
list. All the guests
had to figure out how
to get to this really
remote destination
by going through a
couple of connection
flights and getting a
tux. The last couple of
days have been really
exciting. Guests are
getting really excited
about this.
Why did you pick
this time of year for
a winter destination
wedding?
James: I know...right?
We honestly just sat
there after we got
engaged and decided
to take a nice trip
during New Year’s and
Christmas because
we both work in
entertainment. Just to
be completely honest,
we usually are buried
between February and
November, all day,
every day in between
production work. I
don’t work that often
on the awards circuit. I
do two awards shows,
but they are generally
after the awards
circuit. So I have a lot
of time off and Wallie
has a lot of time off, so
we decided to roll our
wedding experience
into taking a Christmas
trip together. So we
bottled it together
budgetarily, for the
experience, and
decided to go to a
place where we never
were. We are really
glad to share the
experience with our
friends and family and
they are so excited
to go. It’s going to
be literally a Netflix
original Christmas
movie.
Are you doing your
own vows?
James: OMG, it’s so
crazy that you asked
that. Yes, we are
doing the traditional
vows and then we
are adding our own
vows afterwards. I’m
speaking for myself,
but I think I know
Wallie’s answer. We
both haven’t written
them yet. That’s on my
weekend list.

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Boys’
Club is the newest
comedy show to hit the
New York comedy scene
with a monthly spot at
Club Cumming in the East
Village. Unlike what its name
may suggest, every lineup
is almost entirely queer.
“Stand-up comedy can be
a bit of a boys’ club, often
run by cis, straight dudes,”
explains Brooklyn-based, gay
comic Conor Janda, “so we
wanted to create something
to highlight funny queer
voices.” That’s why Janda
and Nico Carney, a trans
comic, started Boys’ Club.
After selling out their very
first show, they knew they
had something special on
their hands. “There are so
many lineups in the city
that are full of straight men
and a token woman or POC
or queer person, so we
wanted a show in Manhattan
where those identities and
perspectives were the norm,
not the exception,” says
Carney.

Janda moved to Brooklyn
from Chicago in December
2020, and Carney moved
from Savannah, Georgia in
March 2021. They met on the
comedy scene and bonded
over being two queer people
in rooms often dominated
by heteronormativity. “In a
room of almost all straight
people, the first step as
a queer comic is making
yourself palatable and
relatable. Once you do that,
you can win people over, but
Make no mistake, though.
This show may be subversive
in lineup, but their goal
is to do what all stand-up
does: make people laugh.
“Funny is funny,” says Janda.
“We’re not trying to make
some political statement.
We just know so many
hilarious people who don’t
fit the mold of a traditional
Manhattan stand-up comic,
and we want to create a
space that puts those people
up in front of audiences.”
Past guests of the show
it’s a hurdle unique to comics
in the margins,” explains
Janda. “I wanted a room
where the word ‘versatile’
doesn’t need an explanation
and poppers are not only
understood but probably in
the pockets of about half
the audience members. That
room is Boys’ Club.”
have included Comedy Cellar
regulars and comics featured
on Comedy Central.
The show is monthly at Club
Cumming. The next show
is on Wednesday, 12/29
at 9pm. Tickets can be
found at their instagram @
BoysClubComedy.

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