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BY JIM SILVESTRI
Catching Up With
BOB THE DRAG QUEEN
The iconic winner of “RuPaul’s Drag Race” and star of “We’re Here” is returning
to NYC to host one of nightlife’s most important showcases.
Interview >>>
Hey, Bob! First things first.
I’ve seen your new hair and
bearded look…fetching!
But why the change?
Because I’ve been out of
work! I got surgery on my
throat performed. So, if I’m
not performing, I usually
don’t shave unless I have to.
So, then I was like, “Well, I’ve
always wanted to see what
I would look like with hair
again.” This will all be gone by
the New Year!
How does it feel to have
your new voice? Does it
seem stronger?
Well, not yet. I’m still in my
recovery phase, but I can
talk. I haven’t tested the
limits of my voice yet, to
be honest…and I’m a little
scared to.
While filming these past
two seasons of HBO’s
drag documentary series
We’re Here, you must have
learned so much about the
art of drag while seeing it in
the context of these rural
towns and small cities,
where you wouldn’t expect
to see it.
Yeah. It’s been really lovely,
just traveling the world and
doing drag and getting to
experience queer people
from all around the world
and amplify their voices and
help tell their story. It’s been
really, really rewarding.
Of course, the episode
when you guys were in
Selma was very emotional
and timely. When you find
yourself in a very emotional
situation like that on
camera, is that something
that you get nervous about
people seeing, or do you
just kind of forget the
camera’s there?
I’ve been in front of the
camera for a little bit now.
So, I don’t forget that it’s
there, but I don’t let it
affect my performance or
my ability to interact with
other people. I just think of
it as an opportunity to help
tell stories. And I think that
whenever the drag kids get
to see us being comfortable,
it encourages them to be
comfortable as well.
You and your We’re Here
co-stars Eureka and
Shangela have put a lot of
first-timers in drag now,
while helping several
others glow up. Maybe
someday, some of these
performers you’ve fostered
will go on to become
Drag Race contestants
themselves. That would be
a crazy, full-circle moment!
It’d be exciting. The queens
from Drag Race come from
all walks of life. I mean, some
of them come FROM Drag
Race. They watch the show
and they love it. I’m one of
the [lifelong fans] who watch
the show; I watched Season
One. I loved it so much, and
I auditioned for the show.
Years later, I got on. So, yeah.
I think that’d be really cool.
PHOTO CREDIT: COURTESY OF BOB THEDRAGQUEEN

Regarding Drag Race:
There have been several
New York girls on all
the seasons for several
years now. But on this
upcoming 14th season, we
only have one–the lovely
and amazing Jasmine
Kennedie! Do you think
show producers or the fan
base got tired of New York
girls or have we burned
through most of our big
talent (as if), or have
other city scenes just
stepped it up?
I don’t think it’s that
calculated. The queens
who are on the show
aren’t [necessarily] the
best drag queens in
America. It just means
they’re the best ones for
this particular season.
They work really well
together as a cast, for
whatever reason. But if
you’re not getting casted
for Drag Race, it does not
mean that you are not a
good drag queen. It just
means you just weren’t
right for this season. That’s
all it means. I had to tell
myself that–I auditioned
four times.
New York City has received
a lot of love for RuPaul’s
Drag Race. And I think
it’d be silly to assume that
RuPaul Drag Race has a
vendetta against New York
City. How many
winners came from
New York City?
You have me,
Bianca, Sasha,
Aquaria. I
mean, New
York is
doing
really well
on Drag Race.
PHOTO CREDIT: JACOB RITTS

Jasmine is gonna slay, though.
And she’s super nice!
I don’t know Miss Kennedie like
that, but I’m sure she’s wonderful.
I’m sure she’s a fantastic, standup
gal. But I’ve never had the
pleasure of meeting her. So best
of luck to her! And I’m sure she’s
got a city rooting for her; it was
just really nice to be on Drag
Race and have your city root for
you. I’ve got to say that, especially
when it happens to be New York
City. But you don’t have to be
nice to do good on Drag Race, lol!
Being nice is no reason to win.
It’s more of a reason to win Miss
Congeniality,
but go off,
lol!
Kizha Carr, you can
breathe easy…I’m
not going to
steal your gig
as a bearded
queen,
honey, lol!
Thanks,
Bob. See
you on the
30th!
Let’s talk
about
the GLAM Awards. You’ve
co-hosted the GLAMs a few
times, with Bianca, Brita and
Peppermint. But on Sunday,
January 30th, you’ll be coming
back to New York to host the
23rd GLAMs presentation solo.
Yeah, I guess I’ve never hosted
alone before. This would be a
first for me!
What’s so appealing about
hosting the show? You’re a very
busy person who now lives on
the opposite coast, but you’re
flying back to do this.
There are people who believed
in me and really have been there
for me, from way before I was
famous. And [GLAMs creator
and producer] Cherry Jubilee
has always believed in me [and
has] always been there for me.
It is a pleasure for me to come
back to town and host the GLAM
Awards.
PHOTO CREDIT: JACOB RITTS
Anything else coming up that
the children should know
about?
I’m going on tour pretty soon,
in January. Shaving the beard,
so come see! By the time you all
see me at the GLAM Awards,
the beard will be gone. I’ll just be
some regular old drag queen.
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BY JIM SILVESTRI
Catching up with
BOUDOIR LEFLEUR
Our reigning GLAM winner for Entertainer of the
Year reflects on a year of drag witchcraft, the super
success of her coven the Assassins, and (maybe)
passing the torch to a new Entertainer this year.
Interview >>>
Hello, my witch! How were
the holidays for you?
Another season in the NYC
nightlife? This year, the new
variant made everything semiwild
at best.
The Assassins, aka the drag
coven you and Kimmi Moore
created that now includes
Kamilla Kockman and Nick
Gaga, have taken over the
universe. What would you say
the Assassins’ “brand” of drag
is these days?
We are dance-heavy, stomp the
yard, no frills, old school fun, in
leather, lace, chains, and very
few rhinestones.
And what is it like being a
sisterhood of four? Might
there be more girls in the
coven someday?
We are lucky to have this little
family. Like all families, we
have our ups and downs, but
it’s all about balance, and we
have found a great balance
between our very different
personalities. For now, I
think four is plenty.
In your opinion, what
makes a “good” drag
queen?
Sondheim wrote in Sunday
in the Park with George,
“Anything you do, let it come
from you, then it will be
new, give us more to see.”
No matter what the skill set,
originality is what makes
drag exciting.
You’re with Jacklynn Hyde
at Hardware early Saturday
nights. The dynamic duo of
Boudoir and Kimmi have
shows together Tuesdays at
Pieces and Wednesdays at
Hardware. And on Fridays,
all four Assassins slay at
Playhouse. Do you all have a
favorite group number?
My personal favorite is our
“Little Mix Mix”, a production
number we often open our
Playhouse show with.
Speaking of Little Mix, all the
Assassins are nominated for
“Best Video” in the GLAM
Awards this year, thanks
to your tribute to “Sweet
Melody.” What was it like
making that video?
It was cold! The floor was
hard! Showbiz is grueling!
And I would do it again in a
heartbeat!
And I love that promo you all
shot, driving in that car on a
desert road. Where was that
and what’s the story behind
that shoot?
We shot that in Vegas! Well,
we rented a 1960-something
vintage Mustang and drove out
to the desert and shot for about
five hours on location during
our recent mini vacation.
At the last live GLAM Awards,
you won Entertainer of
the Year and Best Dance
Performer. You and Kimmi
also won Best Group/Duo
together. And you performed
on the Sony Hall stage. What
was that like?
I love Sony Hall! It’s nice once
in a while to get out of a bar and
onto a nice, big, juicy stage.
The GLAMs return to Sony
Hall on Jan 30th, hosted by
Bob the Drag Queen. Besides
Best Video, the Assassins are
up for Best Group. You are
once again nominated for
Entertainer of the Year, and
you and Kimmi are now both
up for Best Dance Performer
as well. It’s likely to be
another great night for The
Assassins.
If Kimmi beats me, I’ll be elated!
She’s definitely deserving and
one of the best dancers I’ve
ever been onstage with. I’m
excited to wear a gown, see
who gets what, and be with the
Assassins family.
What else is coming up for
you all?
We’ve got a few surprises in the
works for 2022, and our new
Haus Instagram:
@_assassinsnyc_
And finally...do you have New
Years resolutions?
Never.
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow @jwilson77

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point With:
JACKIE HUBA
The founder of Drag Out the Vote
and Fiercely You Entertainment is
co-producing the GLAMs this year…
TEDx Talker and marketing guru
Jackie Huba!
Interview >>>
Jackie, hello! You often speak about how
you’re inspired to be powerful and selfconfident
by drag queens. Can you tell us
a bit about this inspiration and how you’ve
come to know so many amazing queens
over the years?
I had long known about drag and RuPaul, but
when Season 4 of RuPaul’s Drag Race aired
in 2012, it really fueled my drag obsession.
I started going to all of the local drag shows
in Austin (where I lived) and San Antonio,
meeting the local queens and the Drag
Racers who came to perform. I even started
doing drag as the fabulous Lady Trinity. I
decided to write a book about how people,
especially women, could build a confident and
fierce persona for use in everyday life, based
on the psychology of how drag queens do it.
The book is called Fiercely You: Be Fabulous
and Confident By Thinking Like a Drag
Queen and came out in 2016.
You’re president of Fiercely You
Entertainment, which sees you managing
entertainers, including big name drag
queens.
I’m so honored to be working with some of
New York’s finest–Brita Filter, Lagoona Bloo,
Novaczar–as well as Cynthia Lee Fontaine,
and queens from the new Queen Of The
Universe television show, including breakout
American Idol star Ada Vox.
Another organization you manage is Drag
Out The Vote, which promotes voter
registration and awareness of voters’ rights
across the country, using drag queens as
messengers and educators.
Most of my life, I have never been politically
active, aside from voting every four years. But
after the 2016 election, when I realized that
100 million people didn’t vote and one out of
five LGBTQ+ people were not registered to
vote, I knew I had to get active and try to do
something big to change this. In 2020, even
with the pandemic happening, we recruited
303 drag artist ambassadors in 43 states,
contacted over half a million voters through
our digital drag text banks, and created over
one billion online impressions about voting
with our digital events and activations.
You’re joining forces with Cherry Jubilee
to produce the 23rd annual GLAM Awards
(January 30st at Sony Hall, hosted by Bob
the Drag Queen), which honors the best
of New York City nightlife every year. I
understand that there will now be two very
important, brand new GLAM categories
that will honor humanitarian excellence in
nightlife. What can you tell us about these
new awards?
We are so excited to introduce these two
new awards this year! The Advocacy Event
of the Year Award recognizes an in-person or
virtual event that supported a social, political
or economic cause central to the community,
and the Marsha P. Johnson Award recognizes
a member of the entertainment community
who has used their platform and marshalled
resources over the past year to advocate for
social, political or economic causes. Both of
these awards are made possible by our title
sponsor, Impulse Group NYC, and we thank
them so much for their support.
Looking forward to seeing who wins these
groundbreaking honors and to seeing you
at the end of the month, Jackie!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow @jackiehuba

BY JIM SILVESTRI
On Point With:
JEFF EASON
Queer New York nightlife’s most prolific
and trusted event photographer, “Get
Out’s” very own GLAM nominated Jeff
Eason, has seen it all…and thanks to his
quick draw with a camera, so have we!
Interview >>>
Hello, Jeff. How was your
New Year’s weekend?
I just got back from visiting
family for Christmas. For
New Year’s Eve, I worked
for Voss Events at Hudson
Yards. It was a fabulous night
starting with dinner and a
jazz band and moving on to
a holiday-themed variety
show starring the legendary
Shequida. Then there were
drinks and dancing, leading
up to the countdown to
midnight, ending with a show
and DJ set by RuPaul’s Drag
Race winner Aquaria. So
needless to say, it was a fun
night.
That does sound fun!
Where are you from
originally…and was
photography always a part
of your life?
I’m from Detroit,
Michigan. I’ve always loved
photography since
I was young. I
took my father’s
camera to school
when I was in
third grade and
photographed
my friends on the
playground. That’s
when I realized
how cool it was to
capture a moment
on film and have a
visual memory to
share with others.
Can you describe
what was going on in New
York nightlife when you
started shooting it?
There were definitely less
venues then, so the events
felt bigger. There were fewer
performers, so every one
of them felt like a celebrity.
There were so many crazy,
fun parties and bars that are
no longer around, that were
happening every day of the
week. Some of my favorite
places to go were Boys
Room, the Slide, the Park, B
Bar, Hiro, the Hose, Crobar.
It’s been nice to see the
community grow and become
more mainstream over time.
Now, there are so many more
venues for people to enjoy
and new performers are
popping up constantly.
How fun is it to work with
Get Out Magazine editor
Mike Todd and company
and to see your shots
printed on their pages?
Mike and the magazine are
great. It has been an honor
to work with him over the
years. It’s nice to see how
the magazine has changed
and evolved as different
contributors have left their
marks. One thing I’m really
excited about is that you have
come aboard. You’ve been a
fountain of knowledge with
your listings on Thotyssey.
com.
Thank you. I love being
there! One annual highlight
for you and Get Out is
the GLAM Awards cover
photo shoot, which usually
features a group shot of the
prior year’s winners in all
their finery.
Yes, the GLAM Awards are
definitely a highlight for
the nightlife calendar. It’s
always nice to see people
get recognized for their
talents and contributions.
The awards are so great
to photograph because
everyone is looking their best
and the performances are
always top notch. I have been
lucky to win the award for
Best Nightlife Photographer.
See you there again soon!
So, any closing words for
the kids?
I guess I would just ask that
everyone go out and support
your local nightlife. There are
so many great venues and
there’s such wonderful talent
to experience.
Thank you, Jeff!
Read full interview on Thotyssey.com | Follow @jwilson77

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BY JIM SILVESTRI
Catching Up With
CHERRY JUBILEE
A longtime NYC drag hostess, Cherry Jubilee is best known as the creator and
producer of nightlife’s biggest evening: the GLAM Awards! Here, we dish about
the 23rd annual GLAMs, slated for January 30th!
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Interview
Hello, Cherry! You
must be so busy with
everything right now!
I would say so. But
things are coming along
nicely. It’s a very exciting
time. And after a year of
lockdown, I’m super happy
to be busy.
So, online GLAM
voting just closed and I
understand
that the
response has
been one of
the largest
ever.
The largest
response
ever by far! I
was initially
worried that
the pandemic
may put a
damper on
things. But
thankfully,
that didn’t
happen. The
enthusiasm
of people in
NYC nightlife
is huge this
year, and it’s
definitely
one of those
years where
we see a big
insurgence of new talent.
So that may be one reason.
And Brooklyn has come
out in full force like no
other year before. It’s one
of the most inclusive and
diverse years ever. I love
that!
Last year, during
lockdown, the GLAMs
went digital, honoring
nightlifers who produced
online content. That
must’ve been a huge,
unique challenge.
Digital is a completely
different animal. Putting
together a pre-recorded
broadcast is very
technically challenging…
especially when it’s your
first time. And the fact
that you’re attempting
this during a raging
pandemic is definitely a
new kind of challenge.
But it’s as important in a
digital production as it is
in a live one that you are
working with talented and
professional folks. That
makes it easier and more
enjoyable. I learned a lot
and was very happy with
the results. But I’m hoping
never to have to do it
again.
The GLAMs return to
Sony Hall as a live event
on January 30th. Is live
event producing just like
riding a bike or do you
have to relearn how to do
everything, lol?
After putting in at least
three months of work
every year for over two
decades, you can pretty
much go on automatic
pilot once that time of year
rolls around. Even after a
year off. I’ve definitely got
it down at this point. I just
jump right back on that
bike and go!

Tell us how you think the
23rd GLAM Awards show
might be different from
previous shows.
Of course, there will be
the same excitement and
sense of community. But I
expect it to be heightened
this year due to the fact
that we’ve found ourselves
more isolated due to the
pandemic. I think there will
be something extra special
about all of us coming
together and celebrating
achievements in a year that
has been so challenging.
Everyone has worked so hard
and not only survived but
thrived!
There are too many
categories to discuss,
including two new ones.
But I do wanna discuss
Entertainer of the Year,
which is kind of the big one.
What do you think it takes
for a performer to win this
award?
Yes, it’s the big one! Firstly,
I believe you’ve had to
have worked your ass off.
And then, that work has
to have been exemplary.
And every year, there is
always an incredible group
of nominees. This year is no
different.
Bob the Drag Queen will be
hosting the show solo this
year for the first time. How
do you think she’ll do?
To be honest, I’m nervous
as hell. It’s a big risk. Lol! Of
course, I’m kidding. Hosting
the Glam Awards is like being
Ringmaster for a nearly
three-hour circus. Not an
easy task. You’re not just
trying to keep the audience’s
attention for those three
hours, but you have to be
wildly entertaining as well.
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And this isn’t your typical
audience. It’s filled
with some of the most
seasoned entertainers
in NYC who know talent.
But Jackie Beat has done
it solo. Bianca Del Rio
has done it solo. And I
put Bob right up there
with those two comedic
geniuses. With her razorsharp
wit and immense
talent, I’m completely
confident she will do an
amazing job.
Finally: What will it take
for us to bribe you to
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win the categories we’re
nominated in?
I would never! But I may
make an exception for
some of those go-go
dancer nominees. We
might be able to work
something out.

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