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9.07.2010 - Village of Deerfield

9.07.2010 - Village of Deerfield


Village Center Development Commission August 4, 2010 Page 2 of 9 Mr. Doron discussed the history of the site which included the previously completed parking study which contained a count of currently utilized parking spaces. Mr. Doron explained the focus of the plans he is presenting tonight is only the Village-owned parcels. Based on the VCDC and Plan Commission input to this point, the Village goals include safety and efficiency, utilization of current access drives, shifting Waukegan Road deliveries to the parking lot, creation of pedestrian paths, creation of a landscape buffer, installation of bicycle racks, accommodation for drop-off and pick-up for preschool and to maintain a similar number of parking spaces near or at peak demand (104 spaces). Mr. Doron discussed the two options; options C and D. Option C features 119 villageowned spaces and 11 church spaces resulting in 130 total spaces. The plan accommodates large and medium size trucks for deliveries, maximizes parking spaces, while providing for bicycles, pedestrians, a 19.5 foot landscape buffer and one-way drive aisle to the north for the preschool. Mr. Doron noted the drive aisles would be wider than the standard 24 feet, to allow for the turning radius of 62 foot wheelbase trucks. Option C also includes signage directing truck movement within the site. Ms. Zobus asked if there are issues with the traffic signals on Robert York Road. Mr. Doron explained that the site can only be approached by certain directions. Large trucks have to enter and exit from the east as they can’t clear the viaduct from the west. When exiting from Robert York Road onto Deerfield Road, it is possible that vehicles in the left turn lane may need to back up to allow for the truck to make their turn out. Mr. Cooper asked how trucks would get into the loading zone. Mr. Doron explained that the truck would back into the loading zone. Mr. Cooper asked if there was enough room for vehicles to drive past trucks parked in the loading zone. Mr. Doron explained it would be tight, but could be accomplished. Mr. Cooper asked how much it would help the plan to reduce truck sizes. Mr. Doron said that a 50 foot truck would have a smaller trailer path and some changes at the entrance to the lot. Mr. Doron explained the trucks could be controlled through the weight of the truck instead of the truck size. Mr. Cooper believes that the major delivery companies, including Sysco and Sexton, would accommodate the smaller truck size requirements. Ms. Reed asked if the Village considered allowing an exit onto Waukegan Road via the existing aisle north of Studio Beads; Mr. Doron said that would go across private property. Ms. Reed asked what would happen with snow. He explained that when it snows, up to ten percent of the parking spaces could be lost. Mr. Doron noted that snow piling will have to take into account the pedestrian paths. Ch. Garfield asked if the plan is being driven by parking, safety or loading for the two commercial users. He stated his concern was safety. At Deerfield Road and Robert York Road there will be a problem with trucks blocking the traffic and vehicles making left turns. Ch. Garfield noted the trucks require large turning radiuses and pedestrians would be crossing in the same area. He asked if a reduction in the number of parking spaces would help the traffic safety in the area. Ch. Garfield noted that the trucks would 2

Village Center Development Commission August 4, 2010 Page 3 of 9 be present at the preschool drop off times. He asked what could help the Robert York Road turning radiuses. Mr. Doron explained that the aisles in the lots will be painted and not curbed, and will serve as a channel. Vehicles will be able to drive over the paint if necessary. He believes that trucks parking on Waukegan Road create an unsafe situation and getting the trucks off Waukegan Road would be a better solution. Mr. Doron noted that one goal was to get the trucks off Waukegan Road, and said an additional control could also be restricting the delivery times. Ms. Shaw explained the Commission does not believe the number of parking spaces is the top concern; rather, the Commission would have safety addressed more thoroughly. Ch. Garfield asked if commuters are using this parking lot. Mr. Street explained that there may be an occasional commuter, but it is not many. Mr. Doron explained about 35 Park District employees park the lot. Mr. Adler questioned where the church employees park. Mr. Doron explained they park in the church’s spaces. Mr. Doron discussed Option D. This option features 99 Village-owned spaces and 11 church spaces resulting in 111 total spaces. Option D accommodates large and medium sized trucks, provides for bicycles, pedestrians and a 19.5 foot landscaping buffer. It features angled parking with one-way drive aisles on the north and south and a two-way drive aisle in the middle. Option D has easier stall pull-in with the angled parking and it is harder to back out. Mr. Doron explained this option was driven by the truck path and accommodates the wide turning radius required by trucks. He explained that Mr. Dondanville’s plan, upon which Option D is based, features a total one-way traffic pattern, but does not have a wide enough aisle to accommodate the turning radius for trucks. Ms. Reed asked how many parking spaces Mr. Dondanville’s plan would accommodate. Mr. Dondanville noted there would be 87 Village owned spaces. Ms. Reed asked why the two way plan works better than Mr. Dondanville’s plan. Mr. Doron said Mr. Dondanville’s plan does not accommodate the large truck movements. A one-way aisle would require a width of only 18 feet, but the aisles need to be wider to accommodate the large trucks. Wide aisles can be confusing to drivers, so the two-way drive aisle is used in the middle aisle. Ch. Garfield asked which plan would be safer for the drop offs. Mr. Doron prefers the 90 degree plan, because it provides extra space for drop offs, queuing and passing space. He noted that although the preschool staff has indicated that there could be as many as eight vehicles stacking, he only viewed three vehicles stacking during the traffic study. Mr. Doron noted this is a temporary plan and this provides a good solution. He prefers 90 degree parking plan (Option C) because it is more efficient, maximizes parking, and has flexibility. Mr. Kaufmann asked Mr. Doron which plan would be more user friendly. Mr. Doron explained the perception of angled parking makes it more user friendly to consumers, noting that shopping centers often make their customers more comfortable by offering angled parking. 90 degree parking would be more efficient, however. Mr. Kaufmann remembered a parking study that stated the number of occupied parking spaces was 120, not 104. Mr. Doron explained there is additional parking available and believes either plan would meet the demand. Mr. Cooper does 3

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