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August <strong>2024</strong><br />

Around 58,000 new stores opened in the first half of <strong>2024</strong>.<br />

Numerous start-ups in the retail sector<br />

German Retail Association calls for subsidies for new entrepreneurs<br />

The retail trade in Germany<br />

remains a dynamic sector despite<br />

difficult conditions for<br />

consumption. This is made<br />

clear by a recent figure from<br />

the Federal Statistical Office.<br />

According to this, the retail<br />

sector recorded around 58,000<br />

new start-ups in the first half<br />

of <strong>2024</strong>.<br />

Despite a decline compared to<br />

the previous year, retail is therefore<br />

an important start-up<br />

sector that is also characterized<br />

by many small and micro businesses.<br />

“The high number of<br />

start-ups clearly shows how lively<br />

the retail sector is and how<br />

many new ideas and concepts<br />

are growing,” said HDE Managing<br />

Director Stefan Genth. A<br />

functioning economy is dependent<br />

on courageous people and<br />

entrepreneurs with passion.<br />

Seeing vacancies<br />

as an opportunity<br />

In order to make it easier for<br />

founders in the retail sector in<br />

Germany, however, the German<br />

Retail Association (HDE) is<br />

calling for a start-up offensive.<br />

“On balance, we are likely to<br />

lose 5,000 stores this year compared<br />

to 2023. We must also<br />

see the resulting vacancies as<br />

an opportunity and encourage<br />

more people to open their own<br />

business in the city center,” says<br />

Genth.<br />

According to the plan, founders<br />

should receive a grant for a maximum<br />

of 60 months. For example,<br />

the business equipment,<br />

data processing including the<br />

cash register system and a digital<br />

merchandise management<br />

system as well as marketing<br />

measures should be supported.<br />

In addition, ongoing training<br />

courses, for example in business<br />

Symbolic image: Unsplash /Artem Beliaikin<br />

management or marketing, are<br />

to be financed.<br />

Boost for new life<br />

The trade association is also<br />

considering the creation of relocation<br />

managers. These are to<br />

record vacancies, organize new<br />

tenants and organize exchange<br />

formats with potential tenants.<br />

Genth: “This is money well<br />

spent. Permanent vacancies and<br />

deserted city centers cost us all<br />

significantly more. Politicians<br />

must act quickly and provide a<br />

boost for new life in city centers.”


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Sierra Germany recorded a<br />

positive letting performance<br />

in the first half of <strong>2024</strong>. A total<br />

of 32 new leases were concluded<br />

and 36 existing leases were<br />

extended for a total area of<br />

19,000 square meters.<br />

The shopping centers managed<br />

by Sierra in Germany thus achieved<br />

an average of more than ten<br />

leases for 3166 square meters<br />

each. One highlight is the fully<br />

let Mercado shopping center in<br />

Hamburg, which is a rarity on<br />

the German market. The new<br />

tenants in the centers managed<br />

by Sierra in Germany include<br />

well-known brands such as Stradivarius,<br />

Skechers, Paper&Tea,<br />

Lindt, Hugo Boss, Lacoste and<br />

Action. In addition, the longstanding<br />

cooperation with the<br />

Spanish group Inditex with the<br />

labels Pull&Bear, Bershka and<br />

Stradivarius and the Bestseller<br />

Group with Only, Only&Sons,<br />

Jack&Jones and Vero Moda<br />

was further expanded. Among<br />

the tenants who have extended<br />

their contracts, thus confirming<br />

their commitment to the centers<br />

Starbucks, the world‘s leading<br />

coffee house chain, is bringing<br />

one of the most sought-after<br />

managers in the US economy<br />

to the top: Brian Niccol (50)<br />

will take over the role of CEO<br />

in September.<br />

NEWS<br />

Sonae Sierra scores<br />

with many rental agreements<br />

The Mercado in Hamburg under the management of Sonae Sierra is<br />

100 percent let. Photo: Sonae Sierra<br />

managed by Sierra, are Thalia,<br />

Manufactum, H&M, Deichmann<br />

and Kiko.<br />

Sierra is continuing its remarkable<br />

letting successes in Germany<br />

in view of the challenging market<br />

situation. At the same time,<br />

the company is observing an increasing<br />

demand for professional<br />

letting strategies and solutions.<br />

In response to this new need,<br />

Sierra Germany is now offering<br />

its letting services separately.<br />

Owners and investors of real estate<br />

can specifically commission<br />

Sierra‘s letting expertise without<br />

The announcement of his appointment<br />

alone caused the market<br />

value of Starbucks to rise by an<br />

impressive 19 billion dollars - a<br />

clear sign of investors‘ confidence<br />

in Niccol‘s abilities. He<br />

succeeds Laxman Narasimhan,<br />

whose 17-month tenure was<br />

marked by an almost 25 percent<br />

drop in the value of Starbucks<br />

shares.<br />

Niccol faces the task of repairing<br />

Starbucks‘ tarnished image. The<br />

chain, which is known for its expensive<br />

Frappuccinos, lattes and<br />

the like, has increasingly moved<br />

away from its former cozy coffee<br />

house atmosphere in recent<br />

years. The company is also facing<br />

a growing unionization of<br />

its workforce in the USA and is<br />

suspected of having violated labour<br />

laws. One indicator of the<br />

tensions is the recent closure of<br />

the flagship store on Astor Place<br />

in Manhattan.<br />

Niccol has a remarkable track<br />

record. When he became CEO of<br />

the fast food chain Chipotle Mexican<br />

Grill in 2018, the company<br />

was in a deep crisis. Following<br />

having to commit to a comprehensive<br />

management mandate.<br />

In addition to pure letting, owners<br />

of retail properties can also<br />

receive analyses and new concepts<br />

for their properties. Dirk<br />

von der Ahé, head of the Sierra<br />

letting department, emphasizes:<br />

“Our centers are excellently positioned<br />

and our tenants feel very<br />

well looked after. In the current<br />

difficult market situation, it is<br />

crucial to know which retailers<br />

with which requirements are looking<br />

for growth opportunities in<br />

which locations.”<br />

Starbucks: New CEO<br />

to polish up tarnished image<br />

Starbucks is facing a new beginning with the arrival of Brian Niccol.<br />

<br />

Photo: AdobeStock / nmann77<br />

food scandals that had driven<br />

many customers away, Niccol<br />

introduced radical change. With<br />

fresh ingredients and improved<br />

working conditions, he was able<br />

to win back the trust of consumers.<br />

Under his leadership, sales<br />

doubled, profits increased sevenfold<br />

and the share price rose<br />

sharply. Niccol had previously<br />

achieved similar successes at<br />

Taco Bell.<br />

August <strong>2024</strong><br />

Scotch & Soda:<br />

40 stores closed<br />

The fashion brand Scotch<br />

& Soda has ceased business<br />

operations in its almost 40<br />

stores in Germany. Around<br />

290 people are losing their<br />

jobs. Around five stores could<br />

possibly remain open for<br />

longer to sell the remaining<br />

goods.<br />

The employees have been<br />

informed, said insolvency expert<br />

Rhode. Most of the employees<br />

are to be made redundant<br />

in September. The owner<br />

of the rights to the brand and<br />

goods, a private equity fund<br />

based in the USA, had no interest<br />

in transferring both to<br />

new investors or agreeing a<br />

corresponding license, it was<br />

said.<br />

German retail sector<br />

threatened<br />

with job cuts<br />

Companies in Germany are<br />

being more cautious in their<br />

personnel planning. According<br />

to the Ifo Institute, significantly<br />

more companies in industry<br />

and trade are planning to cut<br />

jobs than to hire new staff.<br />

The Ifo employment barometer<br />

fell for the third time in a<br />

row in August. It now stands at<br />

94.8 points, compared to 95.3<br />

points in July.<br />

“The weak economic development<br />

is also reflected in<br />

a weak employment trend,”<br />

says Ifo survey manager Klaus<br />

Wohlrabe. “The lack of orders<br />

is slowing companies down<br />

when it comes to hiring new<br />

staff.”<br />

Online fashion<br />

retail has increased<br />

significantly<br />

According to the latest Fashion<br />

<strong>2024</strong> industry report,<br />

the online market share in<br />

fashion retail rose to 42% in<br />

2023, compared to 28% in<br />

2018, reports online retailer<br />

NEWS.DE. Total sales in the<br />

fashion sector reached 57.9<br />

billion euros in 2023 thanks<br />

to e-commerce and are expected<br />

to grow by a further<br />

1.7% to 58.8 billion euros<br />

in <strong>2024</strong>. The experts are forecasting<br />

steady growth of<br />

1.4% to 1.8% per year until<br />

2028, with an expected<br />

market volume of 62 billion<br />

euros.


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TOP STATEMENT OF THE MONTH August <strong>2024</strong><br />

TOP STATEMENT<br />

August<br />

„Sales growth in<br />

food retail is only<br />

possible through<br />

expansion, no longer<br />

through product<br />

range and<br />

price!”<br />

Uwe Trocha, Head of<br />

Consumer Markets and<br />

Discounters at the Bremenbased<br />

estate agent Robert<br />

C. Spies in an interview<br />

with Immobilien Zeitung,<br />

Wiesbaden.


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ANALYSES August <strong>2024</strong><br />

Market volume in<br />

the fashion industry is growing again<br />

But bricks-and-mortar retail continues to lose share<br />

Hardly any other retail sector<br />

is developing as dynamically<br />

as fashion: bankruptcies,<br />

new players such as Shein and<br />

Temu and more sustainability<br />

in products and consumer behavior<br />

have played their part.<br />

Following the coronavirus<br />

slump - down 12.7% in 2020<br />

- the industry has leveled off<br />

again since 2022 and, at €57.9<br />

billion in 2023, was above the<br />

pre-crisis level of 2019 (€57.4<br />

billion).<br />

Nevertheless, inflation, general<br />

savings behavior and price<br />

increases are now putting the<br />

industry under pressure again.<br />

Prices in the largest product<br />

group, women‘s clothing, in<br />

particular, have risen sharply<br />

in 2023 (up 2.8%). In <strong>2024</strong>, the<br />

price momentum with inflation<br />

rates in the sector will slow<br />

down again somewhat. These<br />

are some of the findings of the<br />

new “Fashion <strong>2024</strong> industry report”<br />

published by IFH COLO-<br />

GNE in collaboration with BBE<br />

Handelsberatung.<br />

Significant<br />

challenges<br />

“The fashion industry is facing<br />

considerable challenges, driven<br />

in particular by inflation and<br />

changing consumer behavior.<br />

While the channel shift towards<br />

online retail is continuing and<br />

sustainability is gaining in importance,<br />

many bricks-andmortar<br />

retailers need to question<br />

their current positioning,”<br />

says Lukas Reischmann, Senior<br />

Consultant Strategy Consulting<br />

at BBE Handelsberatung.<br />

The impact of the pandemic<br />

is very clear in the fashion industry<br />

- a retail sector that has<br />

sometimes suffered the most<br />

from brick-and-mortar closures.<br />

After strong online growth in<br />

2020 and a record high market<br />

share of 46.4% in 2021, online<br />

retail was initially slowed<br />

down by reopened stores with<br />

a share of 42% in 2022 - and<br />

is currently leveling off at this<br />

level with slight annual growth.<br />

The rapid onlineization of the<br />

fashion industry is particularly<br />

The fashion industry is a highly competitive market. <br />

evident over time: in 2018, the<br />

online share was still at 28%.<br />

The situation in city centers is<br />

correspondingly challenging:<br />

Between 2018 and 2023, 21<br />

percent of brick-and-mortar fashion<br />

retailers closed.<br />

Slow growth and<br />

new players<br />

The market experts from IFH<br />

COLOGNE and BBE Handelsberatung<br />

expect steady but slow<br />

growth for the fashion market<br />

as a whole until 2028.<br />

The percentage market growth<br />

over the next four years will<br />

be between 1.4% and 1.8%.<br />

According to these initial forecasts,<br />

the market volume could<br />

reach around 62 billion euros by<br />

2028. “The fashion industry is<br />

currently characterized by two<br />

trends that could not be more<br />

different: The importance of<br />

sustainability continues, which<br />

is also reflected in the growth of<br />

second-hand. At the same time,<br />

in times of inflation and rising<br />

prices, low-cost consumption,<br />

in the form of rapidly growing<br />

ultra-fast fashion providers such<br />

as Shein or Temu, is becoming<br />

increasingly present.<br />

The siphoning off of large volumes<br />

of demand sometimes<br />

deprives the rest of the market<br />

of considerable purchasing potential.<br />

The next few years will<br />

show to what extent Asian suppliers<br />

can stabilize their position<br />

and continue to assert themselves.<br />

In any case, the market<br />

is facing structural upheavals<br />

in the supply chain, while the<br />

changes in distribution channel<br />

shares are slowing down,”<br />

predicts Hansjürgen Heinick,<br />

Senior Consultant at IFH CO-<br />

LOGNE.<br />

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ANALYSES August <strong>2024</strong><br />

Increased optimism in the retail sector<br />

Latest Hahn Retail Real Estate Report gives cause for hope<br />

The 19th edition of the latest<br />

HAHN Retail Real Estate<br />

Report once again provides a<br />

comprehensive market overview<br />

of the retail real estate<br />

investment market. It was<br />

once again produced in cooperation<br />

with CBRE, bulwiengesa<br />

and the EHI Retail Institute.<br />

Yesterday, Thursday, the<br />

Hahn Group presented it at<br />

its Retail Property Day, which<br />

was, as always, very well attended.<br />

In 2023, the German retail sector<br />

achieved a new sales record<br />

of 649 billion euros net. Against<br />

the backdrop of the high inflation<br />

rate, however, a real decline<br />

in sales was recorded. For <strong>2024</strong>,<br />

the HDE again expects a nominal<br />

increase in sales of around<br />

3.5% to 583.3 billion euros net<br />

for the bricks-and-mortar retail<br />

sector, which, thanks to the declining<br />

inflation rate, suggests a<br />

real increase in sales of around<br />

one percent.<br />

Increasing turnover<br />

This upward trend is also reflected<br />

in the Hahn Group‘s expert<br />

survey: compared to the previous<br />

year, retailers are more<br />

optimistic about sales growth<br />

in the second half of the year.<br />

More than half (60%) of retailers<br />

expect their sales division‘s<br />

sales to increase by the end of<br />

<strong>2024</strong> (previous year: 57%). The<br />

proportion of respondents forecasting<br />

falling sales has fallen<br />

from 20% in the previous year<br />

to 13% this year. The proportion<br />

of sales divisions that expect sales<br />

to remain stable at the current<br />

level in the second half of<br />

the year has risen slightly accordingly<br />

(27% compared to 23%<br />

in the previous year).<br />

The investors surveyed see the<br />

general increase in regulatory<br />

requirements and the energy requirements<br />

for properties as significant<br />

risk factors with regard<br />

to retail real estate investments<br />

(71%, previous year 74%).<br />

Only half of the experts are still<br />

concerned about the development<br />

of interest rates, compared<br />

to 77% in the previous year. In<br />

contrast, competition from e-<br />

commerce in the retail sector<br />

is viewed more critically again<br />

compared to the previous year<br />

At the packed Hahn Retail Property Day in Bergisch-Gladbach, Dr. Joseph Frechen (bulwiengesa)<br />

presented the key findings of the Retail Real Estate Report <strong>2024</strong>/2025 with a view to the retail market.<br />

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Photo: HI HEUTE<br />

(49%, previous year 33%). This<br />

year, only 29% see the negative<br />

consequences of the inflation<br />

trend of recent years as a challenge<br />

(previous year: 36%).<br />

When making an investment<br />

decision for a retail property,<br />

37% of investors in the Hahn<br />

expert survey consider ESGrelated<br />

aspects to be relevant<br />

or 56% consider them to be<br />

very relevant and take them<br />

into account accordingly in the<br />

process. In addition, a large majority<br />

of participating investors<br />

(87%, previous year 76%) have<br />

already invested in designated<br />

sustainability investments. In<br />

the current market phase, 42%<br />

of the market participants surveyed<br />

are prepared to pay a<br />

price premium of up to 5% for<br />

an ESG-compliant or green premium<br />

property, with 26% even<br />

willing to pay a premium of up<br />

to 10%. This is closely linked<br />

to recognized and established<br />

ESG initiatives, benchmarking<br />

and certifications, which have<br />

a significant influence on the<br />

investment decision for 80 percent<br />

of investors. The integration<br />

of green lease agreements<br />

into rental contracts is already<br />

a fixed component for 44%,<br />

although it is still a desirable<br />

addition for 44%. Digital energy<br />

consumption measurement<br />

(smart metering) is a standard<br />

process for half of the survey<br />

participants. The continuous<br />

implementation of energy efficiency<br />

measures is also essential<br />

for 66% of investors.<br />

As in many other sectors of the<br />

economy, the retail sector is<br />

also experiencing a noticeable<br />

shortage of staff (58%). Real<br />

estate costs and rents are also<br />

perceived as a burden by sales<br />

divisions this year (51%, previous<br />

year 65%). As in the previous<br />

year, the subdued consumer<br />

sentiment (41%, previous year<br />

53%) and the existing ancillary<br />

and management costs (31%,<br />

previous year 52%) are perceived<br />

as challenging.<br />

While more than half (56%) of<br />

sales division representatives<br />

classified the inflation trend as a<br />

serious problem in the previous<br />

year, this year only 25% of sales<br />

division representatives do so<br />

due to the fact that the inflation<br />

rate has fallen in the meantime.<br />

The increase in competition<br />

from new market participants<br />

(four percent, previous year six<br />

percent), competition from online<br />

retail (ten percent, previous<br />

year five percent) and the<br />

change in consumer shopping<br />

behavior (21 percent, previous<br />

year 24 percent) were assessed<br />

as almost unchanged compared<br />

to the previous year.<br />

Local suppliers<br />

remain favorites<br />

Retail parks remain the preferred<br />

expansion targets for retailers<br />

and are clearly preferred<br />

over shopping centers and inner-city<br />

locations. For example,<br />

56% of the retailers surveyed<br />

expect a positive development<br />

for retail parks and local supply<br />

centers in the current environment,<br />

while only 9% forecast a<br />

negative development.<br />

In contrast, only three percent<br />

expect a positive development<br />

for shopping centers, while<br />

54 percent expect a negative<br />

development. High-street properties<br />

lie in between, with 26<br />

percent expecting a positive<br />

development and 33 percent<br />

expecting a negative development.<br />

Consequently, investors<br />

have similar preferences: Retail<br />

parks are the focus of 88 percent<br />

of investors (previous year 74<br />

percent).<br />

Supermarkets and food discounters<br />

follow in second place<br />

with 63% each (previous year<br />

68%) as well as hypermarkets<br />

and consumer markets, which<br />

were still at 26% in the previous<br />

year. DIY and home improvement<br />

stores came in fourth place<br />

with 25% (previous year: 21%).


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ANALYSES August <strong>2024</strong><br />

There could be a shortage of friendly food sales assistants in the future. <br />

Skills shortage threatens the food trade<br />

IW study: Many thousands of employees will be missing by 2027<br />

The German economy is facing<br />

a growing challenge: the<br />

shortage of skilled workers is<br />

expected to increase further<br />

in the coming years, and the<br />

food retail sector in particular<br />

could be severely affected.<br />

According toa recent study by<br />

the German Economic Institute<br />

(IW), a significant gap of<br />

around 37,000 skilled workers<br />

is expected in the sales sector<br />

by 2027.<br />

The predicted shortage of trained<br />

sales assistants, who are<br />

one of the essential pillars of the<br />

retail sector, is particularly alarming.<br />

According to the study,<br />

this shortage of skilled workers<br />

is partly due to the effects of the<br />

coronavirus pandemic. During<br />

the pandemic, many employees<br />

in the sales sector have changed<br />

careers and have not returned<br />

to their previous positions. The<br />

resulting bottlenecks are already<br />

being felt today: at 45,000, the<br />

number of unemployed people<br />

in the sales sector is well below<br />

the 65,000 vacancies.<br />

Competitiveness<br />

at risk<br />

With almost 850,000 employees,<br />

the sales sector is one of<br />

the largest occupational groups<br />

on the German labor market.<br />

The authors of the study warn<br />

that a persistent shortage of<br />

skilled workers could not only<br />

jeopardize the day-to-day operability<br />

but also the competitiveness<br />

of companies in the<br />

food retail sector. Stefan Genth,<br />

Managing Director of the German<br />

Retail Association (HDE),<br />

emphasizes: “Politicians must<br />

act urgently and create suitable<br />

framework conditions to close<br />

the skills gap.”<br />

It is particularly worrying that<br />

the shortage of skilled workers<br />

could not only affect work processes<br />

in the retail sector, but<br />

also the entire food retail value<br />

chain. This development carries<br />

the risk of supply bottlenecks<br />

and rising costs for consumers.<br />

Risk of<br />

supply bottlenecks<br />

Symbolic image: Pixabay / Alexa<br />

In addition to the food retail<br />

sector, the IW also expects significant<br />

staff shortages in other<br />

key areas such as social work,<br />

nursing and IT.<br />

To counteract these developments,<br />

study author Alexander<br />

Burstedde recommends targeted<br />

measures: Older employees<br />

should be kept in the labor market<br />

for longer and the potential<br />

of immigrants should be utilized<br />

more.<br />

Eastern Germany<br />

particularly<br />

affected<br />

Urgent action is needed, particularly<br />

in eastern Germany,<br />

where the decline in junior staff<br />

could be particularly severe.<br />

The industry faces the challenge<br />

of adapting to a growing shortage<br />

of skilled workers and developing<br />

appropriate strategies in<br />

order to remain competitive in<br />

the long term.


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INTERVIEW August <strong>2024</strong><br />

„Service development is<br />

an important building block for our future!<br />

Interview with LIST Develop Managing Director Michael Garstka<br />

The Oldenburg-based project<br />

developer LIST Develop<br />

(LIST Group) expanded its<br />

range of services a few years<br />

ago and now also acts as a<br />

service developer. Managing<br />

Director Michael Garstka:<br />

“We believe this will enable us<br />

to achieve even better market<br />

coverage and offer our clientele<br />

exactly the properties they<br />

need - regardless of whether<br />

they are residential, commercial<br />

or mixed-use properties.”<br />

<strong>TOM</strong> editor-in-chief Thorsten<br />

Müller met him for an interview<br />

at the LIST business location<br />

in Essen.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: What has been your<br />

perception of <strong>2024</strong> so far?<br />

How did you start the year<br />

and how has it developed for<br />

your company since then?<br />

Michael Garstka: It started<br />

with a lot of unknowns. The<br />

year was characterized by the<br />

hope of finally finding the allimportant<br />

guard rails for our<br />

industry again. Too many framework<br />

conditions have changed<br />

too quickly in recent years<br />

- and that is simply causing a lot<br />

of companies problems at the<br />

moment. However, I expect that<br />

we should have found them by<br />

next year at the latest and that<br />

we will then finally be able to<br />

get back to our usual business.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: What does that mean in<br />

concrete terms in terms of your<br />

current projects and goals?<br />

Michael Garstka: We have tackled<br />

a number of projects, but<br />

some of them are also - as a consequence<br />

of the current generally<br />

tense economic situation - in<br />

an over-planning phase, and we<br />

cannot yet say exactly how long<br />

this will last. Of course, we are<br />

trying to implement all of them,<br />

but then under new parameters.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: Can you give an example<br />

of both holding on and<br />

over-planning?<br />

Michael Garstka: One project<br />

that we are very confident about<br />

- despite all the challenges<br />

- and are pushing ahead with its<br />

implementation at full speed is<br />

the mixed-use quarter in a prime<br />

location in Osnabrück‘s city<br />

center. By the end of 2025, we<br />

will have successfully opened a<br />

Michael Garstka, Managing Director LIST Develop, Germany<br />

<br />

Photo: LIST<br />

budget hotel (172 rooms) combined<br />

with around 100 serviced<br />

apartments, as well as restaurants<br />

and, of course, retail outlets.<br />

As the LIST Group, we<br />

are not only responsible for the<br />

development and planning, but<br />

also for the construction. This is<br />

why taxonomy and ESG-compliant<br />

realization at the highest<br />

quality level is mandatory for us<br />

and has basically already been<br />

internalized. We now completely<br />

dispense with fossil fuels<br />

and increasingly rely on either<br />

district heating, heat pumps or<br />

photovoltaics.<br />

It is also very pleasing that all<br />

tenants are clearly committed to<br />

both the location and our entire<br />

project.<br />

The situation with our planned<br />

district center in Wolfsburg is<br />

more difficult. Although we already<br />

have all the tenants here<br />

and the development plan is in<br />

place, we can no longer maintain<br />

the use of the upper floors<br />

as we originally planned before<br />

the coronavirus pandemic. We<br />

will now include other uses in<br />

our re-planning and, once we<br />

have agreed on a promising<br />

path, we will also resume implementation.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: Which asset classes will<br />

you then focus on?<br />

Michael Garstka: First and<br />

foremost, profitability must always<br />

be ensured. Therefore, in<br />

these uncertain times, it is even<br />

more important than before to<br />

check and calculate carefully.<br />

The latest developments in<br />

construction costs and interest<br />

rates have made everyone involved<br />

thoughtful and cautious. As<br />

a result, a detailed risk assessment<br />

must be carried out before<br />

deciding on a particular asset<br />

class. Thanks to our decades of<br />

experience and detailed knowledge<br />

of the market, we are in<br />

a good position to find the right<br />

individual solution in the right<br />

asset classes for each location.<br />

Here we also benefit from the<br />

synergies between the companies<br />

of the LIST Group, so that<br />

we can realize the best possible<br />

project development. And in the<br />

area of service development, we<br />

also find the ideal solution together<br />

with our clients. In principle,<br />

we also see the development<br />

of mixed-use properties as a<br />

sensible way forward.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: How do you see the situation<br />

with food service providers<br />

in general - are they<br />

still the rock in terms of project<br />

realization?<br />

Michael Garstka: It is clear<br />

that we will continue to rely on<br />

them - regardless of whether<br />

we are talking about traditional<br />

supermarkets, discount stores or<br />

city center concepts. The same<br />

applies to the drugstore sector.<br />

In mixed-use projects, which<br />

are now the norm for us and<br />

many other project developers,<br />

they are indeed an important anchor<br />

that also plays an important<br />

role in footfall. But we have also<br />

noticed that retailers have become<br />

much more flexible when it<br />

comes to space sizes.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: What else has changed?<br />

Michael Garstka: Banks and<br />

end investors have now adjusted<br />

to the asset class mix. For<br />

a long time, this was difficult<br />

when there were only single-issue<br />

projects. Nevertheless, their<br />

demands on developers have<br />

not diminished.<br />

Increasingly, realization depends<br />

not only on perseverance<br />

and reliability, but also on<br />

imagination and a sure instinct<br />

when it comes to selecting locations<br />

and the tenant mix. And:<br />

the interaction with the owners<br />

should not be underestimated.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: So what does that mean<br />

for the future?<br />

Michael Garstka: Too many<br />

speculative projects for which<br />

no future owner is yet certain<br />

can get a company into serious<br />

difficulties in these challenging<br />

times. You have to take countermeasures<br />

as quickly as possible<br />

before it‘s too late. You have to<br />

think very carefully about what<br />

you want and then at some point<br />

find the time to commit to the<br />

project with heart and soul.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: What is your company<br />

doing to position itself as stably<br />

as possible for the coming<br />

years.<br />

Michael Garstka: We started<br />

our transformation over<br />

two years ago by deciding as a<br />

group of companies to act more<br />

strongly as one company again.<br />

This means offering a wide range<br />

of services, such as planning,<br />

construction and taxes, from a<br />

single source - and also as a general<br />

service provider for third<br />

parties at a fixed price. Companies<br />

like to deal with a single<br />

point of contact during the work<br />

process. We are certain that service<br />

development will become<br />

an important component of our<br />

future!


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INTERVIEW August <strong>2024</strong><br />

„Our customers‘ planning security<br />

is our top priority”<br />

Interview with Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala, Retail Managing Director of facility specialist WISAG<br />

Facility management for<br />

shopping centers and other<br />

large retail properties is becoming<br />

increasingly complex<br />

and demanding. Digitalization,<br />

AI and ESG have become<br />

focal points in discussions<br />

with customers in recent years.<br />

In an interview with <strong>TOM</strong><br />

editor-in-chief Thorsten Müller,<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala,<br />

Managing Director Retail at<br />

WISAG, explains what clients<br />

and contractors currently value<br />

most.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: Despite the most difficult<br />

socio-political and economic<br />

conditions, WISAG has<br />

managed to win over large<br />

portfolios of well-known retail<br />

chains as customers. What<br />

was decisive for this?<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala: You<br />

have to look at this in a wider<br />

context. The right adjustment of<br />

our strategy was extremely important<br />

for our success. Around<br />

ten years ago, we initially focused<br />

on shopping and retail parks<br />

and were able to generate a lot<br />

of orders here. Then came corona,<br />

which led us to rethink our<br />

approach.<br />

From then on, we concentrated<br />

on classified retail and aimed to<br />

become a service provider for<br />

the largest possible portfolios.<br />

We succeeded because we were<br />

able to convince our clients<br />

with clear ideas and practical<br />

concepts that emphasized the<br />

advantages over solutions with<br />

multiple service providers. Our<br />

approach is always that we first<br />

take care of the solution approaches<br />

- i.e. the content side - and<br />

only take care of the costing in<br />

the second step.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: Climate change has<br />

taken a back seat in recent<br />

months due to many current<br />

events and influences.Nevertheless,<br />

ESG topics are always<br />

on the agenda in your discussions<br />

with clients, aren‘t they?<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala:<br />

Both are true. ESG is seen as<br />

a must topic by the majority of<br />

our customers, but is not pursued<br />

out of real conviction. On<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala, Retail Managing Director of WISAG. <br />

the other hand, almost all companies<br />

are increasingly focused<br />

on the price and reliability of<br />

the service provider due to the<br />

recent increasingly difficult<br />

conditions. Energy efficiency is<br />

of course still a very important<br />

issue, as it also has a significant<br />

financial impact.<br />

When it comes to ESG, we are<br />

still experiencing an unsatisfactory<br />

situation for everyone<br />

involved, as many things are legally<br />

unclear and companies are<br />

therefore not sufficiently prepared.<br />

We proactively incorporate<br />

corresponding measures into the<br />

reporting system, which clients<br />

appreciate, but they themselves<br />

also have to assign employees<br />

to ESG-relevant implementations.<br />

This rarely happens.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: What do customers<br />

particularly want from WI-<br />

SAG when it comes to advice<br />

on content?<br />

Joaquin<br />

Jimenez-Zabala:<br />

First and foremost, they want<br />

planning security. They want<br />

reliability from the service provider<br />

over a longer period of<br />

time - usually three to four years<br />

- but at the same time they<br />

want it to be within their budget.<br />

Logically, they want us to take<br />

on as many tasks as possible<br />

and, in case of doubt, to assume<br />

liability for them. But of course,<br />

negotiations can take longer in<br />

such cases, because risk assessment<br />

is not a quick matter.<br />

In addition to the general provision<br />

of services and energy-efficient<br />

implementation, consulting<br />

issues are also increasingly<br />

about transformation and the<br />

use of innovative products.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: How much artificial<br />

intelligence and digitalized<br />

support do you now use in FM<br />

processes?<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala: A<br />

lot has happened here recently.<br />

Photo: WISAG<br />

For example, we have our own<br />

chat bot (“Elli”), which helps us<br />

to meet the ESG criteria.<br />

In my view, AI will become a<br />

decisive factor in the coming<br />

years when it comes to the shortage<br />

of skilled workers. It will<br />

increasingly take over certain<br />

tasks and thus ensure that personnel<br />

capacities can be reduced.<br />

<strong>TOM</strong>: WISAG is known for<br />

expanding its service portfolio<br />

with targeted partnerships.<br />

Are there any current examples<br />

of this?<br />

Joaquin Jimenez-Zabala: We<br />

have been in regular talks and<br />

negotiations with companies<br />

that could help us in individual<br />

areas for some time now. It‘s<br />

also about our ambitious expansion<br />

targets, which now extend<br />

far beyond Germany. Of course,<br />

we are also interested in investing<br />

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MAP OF THE MONTH August <strong>2024</strong><br />

Retail share of private consumption, Europe 2023<br />

GfK’s Map of the Month for August shows the retail<br />

share of private consumption in 31 European countries<br />

in 2023. The retail share of private consumption<br />

is slowly returning to pre-pandemic levels in the European<br />

Union. In 2023, a decline was recorded for the<br />

second year in a row, meaning that EU citizens now<br />

only spend 33.9 percent of their money in retail. The<br />

highest share is in Hungary, where every second euro<br />

is spent in retail. In Germany, on the other hand, only<br />

just under 27 percent of consumer spending is made<br />

in the retail sector, putting Germany in last place in<br />

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