Get Out! GAY Magazine – Issue 557

ISSUE #557
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SANDRA
BERNHARD
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getoutmag.com week in pictures >> BY WILSONMODELS / wilsonmodels.blogspot.com
MISS MONSTER PAGEANT 2025 @ MONSTER BAR

SANDRA BERNHARD
SANDRA IS CURRENTLY IN
HER NINTH YEAR HOSTING
HER WEEKLY RADIO SHOW
“SANDYLAND” ON SIRIUSXM’S
RADIO ANDY CHANNEL 102
WATCH SANDRA IN THESE CURRENT HIT SHOWS:
“SEVERANCE,” “RUPAUL’S DRAG RACE,” DISNEY’S
“PERCY JACKSON AND THE OLYMPIANS” AND
NETFLIX’S “SURVIVAL OF THE THICKEST”
APRIL 24 - Paramount
Hudson Valley Theater -
Peekskill, NY
APRIL 25 - Patchogue
Theatre - Patchogue, NY
APRIL 27 - Keswick
Theatre - Glenside, PA
APRIL 29-MAY 3 - Cafe
Carlyle New York, NY
JUNE 12 - Parkway
Theatre - Minneapolis, MN
JUNE 13 - Vivarium
Milwaukee, WI
JUNE 14 - Park West
Chicago, IL
JULY 24 - Bearsville
Theater - Woodstock, NY
JULY 26 - The Iron Horse -
Northampton, MA

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PHOTO BY NICK SPANOS
JULY 27 - Blue Ocean
Music Hall - Salisbury, MA
JULY 29 - P-Town Hall
Presented by Payomet
Provincetown, MA
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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
SANDRA BERNHARD
Fierce, In Your Face & Funny Forever
Comedian, actress, singer, author
Sandra Bernhard is an anomaly
whose career continues to burn
brightly. Her unique brand of
laughter has enraptured audiences
for decades and, like the energizer
bunny, she never stops.
In a brief Sandra refresher
course, she was cast to star in
the 1982 Scorsese film “The King
of Comedy”, for which she was
awarded Best Supporting Actress
by the National Society of Film
Critics. In addition, she has been
a successful stand-up comedian,
remaining on Comedy Central’s
list of the top 100 stand-ups of all
times. After 25+ appearances on
Late Night With David Letterman,
she appeared on many television
shows and recorded albums, one of which was nominated for a Grammy
for Best Comedy Album. She played Nancy Bartlett Thomas on the
sitcom Roseanne and was one of the first actresses to portray an openly
bisexual, recurring character on television. She appeared on “Will &
Grace”, and on Broadway in the show “I’m Still Here…Damn It!” She was
cast in season four of “2 Broke Girls” and played Nurse Judy on the FX
series “Pose.” In 2015, she began hosting “Sandyland” on Sirius XM’s
Radio Andy.
Now she is appearing in the hottest series on the planet: “Severance.”
And that’s not all. This year has been exceptionally busy for Sandra.
She’s been a judge on RuPaul’s Drag Race, is touring a new show called
Shapes & Forms, is one of the Gray Sisters with Margaret Cho and Kristen
Schaal in season 2 of “Percy Jackson and the Olympians”, and more. In a
fun conversation, we spoke about all her new endeavors…..
PHOTO BY NICK SPANOS

PHOTO BY MAGNUS HASTINGS
INTERVIEW >>>
So it’s been awhile. You’ve
been up to a lot of stuff.
Yeah it’s a busy year. Some of it
was sort of under wraps until now
so it was fun to watch it unfold.
I don’t know where to start.
So I’m just going to start. And
what you feel like talking about,
you just chime in. I want to
start with Shapes & Forms
because that already sounds
funny to me.
My mother named her art studio
Shapes and Forms when we
drove through New Mexico and
moved to Arizona when I was 10
years old. No one had seen the
Southwest so that was a whole
new thing. I had said to my dad,
“Look at all those shapes and
forms”. So she started to use that
as the name of her art studio.
And then what are you going to
do with it?
Well, I’ve got my own shapes and
forms, obviously, all these years
through my own art. My mother
was a painter and a sculptor,
so it was a different outlet, but
nonetheless she was a real
original.
That is very cool.
I think so too.
Are you basing a show
around it?
No, it was just a fun name. I do
a new show each year at Joe’s
Pub and that was the name
of the show this year. It will be
what I go out on the road and
tour with over the next year.
Great stories, great music. So
I’m very happy and excited to
be taking it to different markets.
The thing I love the most
is that you were a judge on
Drag Race. How was that?
Super fun. It was great. It is a
hard day’s work. Very intense.
Everybody’s got their emotions
going on. They put a lot of work
into every episode. I was very
happy with the set and the way
they shot it was really cool. We
had a great time. It was fun to
be with everybody. I’ve known
RuPaul for years. When he’s on
set, he is very focused. There’s
not a lot of time for chit chat.
He’s a nice man. He is a very
nice man.
Oh, yeah. I’ve known him for 30
years.
Every time I have ever spoken
with him, he was very nice.
Did you send anyone away?
Did you make anyone cry?
No, no. I didn’t personally
make anybody cry. I tried to
be very compassionate and
understanding. But still funny.
So you are going to become
one of the sisters in the
Disney show Percy Jackson?
Yes. That is a guest starring
role, along with Margaret Cho.
It was just one episode but I’ve
never been in special effects
hair and makeup before, so
that was a whole other new
experience.
What was that like?
It was like sitting and getting
special effects hair and
makeup for a few hours. The
people who did that were also
experts in what they do. It was
really cool. We shot it up in
Vancouver. That was fun. I’m
looking forward to seeing that
too.
You did the Netflix
documentary Outstanding:
A Comedy Revolution. I saw
some of it and I just loved it.
Yeah, I did that. It’s already
been two years ago. First it
came out as a performance
and then it was a documentary.
But it made a big splash. It was
very interesting and unique to
hear everybody’s stories about
the early days of comedy and
the whole LGBTQ interaction.
I was very proud to be a part
of that.

Survival of the Thickest. Talk
about that for a minute.
Well I am a huge fan of Michelle
Buteau. I had a small part in
the film Babes that she was a
co-star of. So we got to talking
and got very friendly. I just think
she’s very very talented. She
invited me to come and do a
guest starring role on her show.
So that was another fun thing
to do. I believe that starts in
March.
What is Marty Supreme?
What did you do with that?
That is the Safdie Brothers’ new
film. We shot that in December.
It’s got a huge cast. It was a
very cool thing to be a part of
and I’m very excited about that
as well.
Are you still doing
Sandyland?
Yes I am. Every Thursday 11:00
a.m.
That has to be fun–all the
people you
get to meet.
A few people come on as
regulars. People aren’t always
available. I always want certain
people to come on, but now
more than ever, people don’t
want to spin their wheels. I
think people just want to do a
select thing. I’m not saying that
people shouldn’t be on my show
because of course they should,
but there’s a lot less things in
person since the pandemic.
Which I think makes things a
lot easier but not quite as much
fun. I can’t schlepp over there all
the time. I am still doing it and
I’m still enjoying it, so that’s cool.
What about Severance? What
can you tell me about that
without getting into trouble?
Well, the first episode just
dropped. It is an incredible
experience getting to be part of
that show. It is one of the most
popular shows on television
right now. Everyone in it that
has been cast is so nice. When
he called me, I was so pleased
that he thought of me to come
on the show. It is a big deal. It’s
amazing and I’m very happy
with the results. I really want
people to tune in and see for
themselves.
Will we see you on Fire Island
this year?
I don’t think I have anything
lined up in Fire Island this year.
I’ll be back in P-Town.
You’re so crazy busy. Is there
anything that I left out that
you would like to tell me?
No, we’ll just cover what we
have on hand right now. Which
is plenty. All things that are really
exciting. And I’m really proud of.
It is nice after being in my world
and performing all these years
that I’m still doing new things
that are exciting and impressive
and inspiring. That is really the
most important part of all of this.
I think that’s going to happen
for a long time.
Yeah, I hope so. I keep going
back and rolling up my sleeves
as an artist who creates her
own work. But I really love that
I’m getting to do things and that
I’m part of a lexicon of people.
PHOTO BY BRIAN ZIEGLER

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BLACK PARTY @ HK HALL
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RICK
SCHMUTZLER
CELEBRATES 20 YEARS WITH HIS GYM SPORTSBAR FAMILY
IF you had told me in late 2003 that I’d
be writing an article about the 20 year
anniversary in 2025 of the bar that was
just a glimmer of an idea at that point, I’d
never have believed it. I was just beginning
to work on a business plan for what at the
time was a radical idea; a queer sports bar.
Despite the fact that there was a booming
queer sports community both nationally
and in New York, the connection between
nightlife and that huge untapped market had
not yet been made. I’d been a lifelong athlete
and had found the gay sports leagues that
were already thriving when I came out in the
mid-1980’s to be a godsend.
The instant connection and potential
friendships gained when you joined a league
or team was something that was invaluable
to a shy 21-year-old farm kid trying to figure
out this gay thing. I met people I would
never have met had I not joined that first
gay softball team: older guys who could
serve as a mentor, people from different
backgrounds, different races, different
experiences. All served to open my eyes to
what it meant to be gay, to be accepted, to
build community. When it turned out our
clean-up hitter was an inner city black drag
queen named Echo Chambers who would
crush the ball and scream “Eat it!” at the top
of her lungs, I somehow knew I was home.
Terrified at first, but home.

I wanted to bring that same sense of
diversity, of inclusion, of community
building to Gym Bar. I wasn’t sure how I
was going to do it, but I knew what I wanted
it to look like, to feel like. That no matter
who you were on the queer spectrum, you
had a place with us. Your typical sports
bars aren’t known for an inclusive vibe, but
my time playing in various queer leagues
and sports over the years had shown me
the magic that happened there.
So, in late 2004, early 2005, I started
building the team that would honestly
become family over the next 20 years.
Matt Logan, Jerry Reilly, Collin Spencer,
Juan Bonilla and Erich Courage all made
their way into the fold. Matt was the fool
who gave me the first seed money that
made the dream possible and Jerry, Juan,
Collin and Erich were the first four people
I hired. I have no idea how I got so lucky
to have found this group of remarkable
people. Over the years, we learned and
grew together, figured out what it meant
to own and operate a business, to build a
brand. And the fact that during the process
they have become true friends, as well as
partners in the business, is a blessing I am
constantly thankful for.
I have one last group of people I would like
to thank and express my undying gratitude
to. Our customers. From the many sports
leagues we’ve been blessed to work with,
many of whom have been with us since we
first opened our doors, to the individuals
who have become regulars and are the
lifeblood of any bar and especially Gym
Bar. You have our appreciation. You, as
much as the staff, make Gym Bar the weird,
wonderful place that it is. We thank you for
the last 20 years and we hope you will be
with us for the next 20.

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GYM BAR 20TH ANNIVERSARY
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BY JIM SILVESTRI PHOTO BY:
DRAG PERFORMER OF THE MONTH:
BOXA CRAYONZ
Boxa’s rocking stages across the boroughs
as both king AND queen
Best description of
my drag: Energetic,
unserious and nerdy
as hell. Sometimes I’m
Mario, sometimes I’m
Princess Peach! Either
way, I love to dance
and make an audience
laugh.
How many years I’ve
been at it: Three years.
Original hometown:
Darien, CT.
Favorite number
to do: This is an
impossible question,
ugh!! Recently, I’ve
been really loving doing
“Zombieboy” off the
new Lady Gaga album,
but I’m happy to do my
Fergie or Table Mix if
ever requested. If you
really love me, you’ll
ask me to do “Linger” by
The Cranberries. ;)
A number I will NEVER
do: Anything that will
get me cancelled, haha.
Otherwise, I’m always
game to be stupid. I
LOVE a roulette.
Favorite cosmetic
product: BLUSH. I
love a good coral blush.
I also swear by NYX
liquid liner.
Reason I started drag:
Someone once said
“Make the art you want
to see in the world”, and
I swear by that. It wasn’t
till seeing Gottmik on TV
that I was aware I could
do drag.

@PHOTOCHASE_NYC INSTAGRAM: @boxa.crayonz
Everyone always says
drag has no rules, yet
people are constantly
critiquing the validity of
each other’s drag.
I want to show the
community that drag
is expansive, whether
I’m a king, queen
or something in the
middle.
Most important diva
ever: Beyoncé.
A drag performer I
admire: Kizha Carr
is one of my all-time
favorite drag artists.
She is a master class
in performance and
hosting. I am also
grateful for the times I
stayed late after a Star
Search at Barracuda
and just listened to
her talk about drag/art/
etc. I’m someone who
really doesn’t want to
meet their heroes, but
I’m endlessly glad that I
know Kizha.
The man (or etc.) of
my dreams: I would
give my left arm for a
threesome with Doechii
and Damiano David.
Drink of choice:
Always always
alwayssss tequila soda,
splash of cranberry.
Best thing about
drag: Making
somebody’s day better.
If I can make anyone
laugh, smile or just be
glad they came to my
show instead of all the
different ways they
could have spent their
night, then I’ve done
my job.
Worst thing about
drag: Handsy audience
members and people
that care way too much
about what’s in my
tights. One bad egg can
ruin the vibe of a whole
crowd, so don’t be that
egg!
Proudest drag
moment I’ve had:
When I found out
my hometown was
holding their first ever
Pride event, I begged
them to let me do a
performance. I was
literally like, “I’ll do this
for free, just let me do a
number!” I was certain
there would be no drag
present, and I wanted
to make sure there
was representation.
Additionally, I thought
of how my life would’ve
changed had drag been
more accessible at a
young age rather than
highly stigmatized and
something I could only
find on the Internet. The
organizer graciously
let me twirl, and now
I perform there every
year!
Weirdest drag
moment I’ve had: I’ve
definitely had several
weird private gig
experiences/requests.
I once was asked to
surprise someone
for their birthday, but
they said last minute
that the restaurant
wouldn’t allow it. So
instead, I filmed a
video and sent it to
the person organizing
the surprise. I later
found out the person
celebrating his birthday
was a transphobic
influencer with millions
of followers. Little did
he know--he gave a
trans drag artist money
to film a 30 second
cameo. A few months
later, I saw him bike
past me in K-Town and
couldn’t help but laugh.
Best advice to a new
queen: Put yourself
out there! Be fearless.
Go to as many new
spaces/bars as you
can. Every show is an
opportunity to try new
things and meet new
people. Lastly, don’t let
popular media control
how you create your
own drag. Be your own
reference.
Where to find me: I
am at Icon Bar every
second Wednesday
with Harriet Tugsmen
and Fresco’s Grand
Cantina every third
Thursday for bingo
(hosted by Angelique
Stevens) and the
annual competition Mx
Cantina (hosted by Inita
D).

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