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Issue 77
ISSN 2976-9396
THE BUSINESS OF LAW
PRIDE IN
PRACTICE
P06 P22 P08
Championing
Visibility:
Intersectionality,
Allyship and the
Power of Legally
Lesbians
Jacqui Rhule-Dagher
Holding the Line,
Leading with Light:
Why the Legal
Profession Must Step
Up for LGBTQ+ Rights
Nik Tait
Progress with Pride: How
the Legal Profession Is
Embracing LGBTQ+ Inclusion
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Beyond the Rainbow:
LGBTQ+ Voices in Law
“Equality means more than passing laws. The struggle
is really won in the hearts and minds of the community,
where it really counts.”
— Barbara Gittings, LGBTQ+ rights activist and pioneer
Welcome to Issue 77 of Modern Law Magazine!
In this issue, we proudly celebrate LGBTQ+
inclusion in the legal profession, spotlighting
the voices, initiatives, and innovations driving
real change in workplaces across the sector.
We open with two powerful interviews. Jacqui
Rhule-Dagher, Associate at Hogan Lovells
International LLP and Founder of Legally
Lesbians, explores the importance of visibility,
intersectionality, and allyship, and how her
platform is creating space for underrepresented
voices in law.
Next, we speak with Mark Evans, Vice
President of the Law Society of England and
Wales, about progress, pride, and how legal
institutions are evolving to support LGBTQ+
professionals at every level.
Our Editorial Board shares further perspectives
on inclusion, innovation, and workplace
culture. Alex Holt (Cashroom) and Neville
Dinshaw (Law Mergers & Acquisitions) each
reflect on finding their professional tribe and
the seasonality of growth, both personal and
professional.
In our Insights section, Kirsty Limacher (The
Association of Lifetime Lawyers) takes stock
of the progress made, and the work still to be
done, on the journey toward a truly inclusive
profession.
In InDepth, Nik Tait (Laing O’Rourke and
Pride in London) calls on legal leaders to hold
the line and step up in defence of LGBTQ+
rights, offering a compelling case for proactive
leadership in challenging times.
This issue also brings full coverage of the
Modern Law Private Client Awards, including
photos from the evening and a complete list of
winners and highly commended.
Our special interview with Craig Matthews
of Leap Estates takes us behind the scenes
of award sponsorship and what it means to
support excellence in the legal sector.
In our Conveyancing Forum, we examine how
firms are coping with pressure, compliance, and
innovation, while our Firm Focus showcases
how award-winning teams are setting new
standards.
Turning to Wills & Probate, we explore
how private client practitioners are being
empowered in a shifting legal landscape,
with a spotlight on bereavement support and
compassionate innovation.
In LegalTechTalk, we ask how technology can
be a tool for LGBTQIA+ inclusion, challenging
firms to think about tech’s role beyond
efficiency.
And finally, in ‘10 Minutes With’, we meet
Alex Gregory Chialton, who shares her career
highlights and reveals who she’d invite to her
dream dinner party.
From leadership and law to tech and training,
this issue reminds us that inclusion is not a
side project, it’s a core value and a business
imperative. We hope these stories inspire
reflection, action, and lasting progress.
Happy reading!
Hayley Dalton is Editor at
Modern Law Magazine
Editorial Contributors
Alex Holt, Cashroom
Stuart Whiter, AJ Chambers
Neville Dinshaw, Law Mergers & Acquisitions Samantha Burrows, XYZ Law Solicitors
Sam Kimber, Pro-Gen Research
Adrian Jaggard, Taylor Rose
Phil Cotter, SmartSearch
Priscilla Sinder, PC Consultancy
Sarah Murphy, Clio International
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CONTENTS
INTERVIEW
EDITORIAL
BOARD
INSIGHT
IN-DEPTH
06 Championing Visibility: Intersectionality, Allyship and the Power of
Legally Lesbians
Jacqui Rhule-Dagher, Associate, Hogan Lovells International LLP and
Founder, Legally Lesbians
08 Progress with Pride: How the Legal Profession Is Embracing LGBTQ+
Inclusion
Mark Evans, Vice President of the Law Society of England and Wales
11 Cashroom
Finding My Tribe: Why Spring and Summer Bring Out the Best in Me
Alex Holt, Chief Revenue Officer, Cashroom
11 Law Mergers & Acquisitions
Beyond the Policy: Creating Psychological Safety for LGBTQ+ Legal
Professionals
Neville Dinshaw, Managing Director, Law Mergers & Acquisitions
13 Pro-Gen Research
Evolving Client Expectations in Probate Genealogy: A
Communication-Focused Response
Sam Kimber, Probate Researcher & Genealogist, Pro-Gen Research
13 AJ Chambers
Beyond Rainbow Logos: Building LGBTQ+ Inclusion
in Law
Stuart Whiter, Associate Portfolio Director, AJ Chambers
15 XYZ Law Solicitors
Conveyancing in 2025: Embracing Change, Elevating Service
Samantha Burrows, Partner, XYZ Law Solicitors
17 Taylor Rose
Transforming Legal Practice: Launching Our Fully Cloud-Based
Management Platform
Adrian Jaggard, CEO, Taylor Rose
17 SmartSearch
Building Inclusion into Every Step: How SmartSearch Embeds
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Across the Employee Journey
Alex Miell, Chief People Officer, Smartsearch
19 PC Consultancy
Embracing Emerging Technologies in Law: Challenges and
Opportunities
Priscilla Sinder, Managing Director, PC Consultancy
19 Clio International
Pride, Progress, and Purpose: How Clio Champions Inclusion
in Legal Tech
Sarah Murphy, General Manager, Clio International
21 We’ve Come a Long Way – But There’s Still Work to Do
Kirsty Limacher, Legal Consultant, The Association of Lifetime Lawyers
22 Holding the Line, Leading with Light: Why the Legal Profession Must
Step Up for LGBTQ+ Rights
Nik Tait, Senior Legal Counsel (Legal Leader: Disputes) at Laing O’Rourke and
Director of Legal for Pride in London
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CONTENTS
AWARDS
SPECIAL
INTERVIEW
CONVEYANCING
DISCUSSIONS
WILLS & PROBATE
DISCUSSIONS
LEGAL TECH
10 MINS WITH
24 Modern Law Private Client Awards
Photos and coverage of the awards night as well as a full list of winners and
those highly commended
31 Behind the Sponsorship: An Interview with Leap Estates
Craig Matthews, Head of Verticals UK, Leap Estates
33 Conveyancing Forum
Conveyancing Under Pressure: Innovation, Compliance and the Path to a
Smoother Property Transaction
38 Conveyancing Firm Focus
Raising the Bar: What’s Next for Award-Winning Conveyancing Teams?
45 Wills & Probate Forum
Wills & Probate Focus: Empowering Private Client Practitioners in a Changing
Legal Landscape
47 Wills & Probate Firm Focus
Simplifying Bereavement Support: Compassionate Innovation in the Private
Client Sector
50 LegalTechTalk
LGBTQIA+ Inclusion in the Legal Profession
56 10 Mins With... Alex Gregory Chialton
See who Alex would invite round for dinner, and what her most memorable
achievement has been in her career.
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INTERVIEWS
CHAMPIONING
VISIBILITY
JACQUI RHULE-DAGHER ON INTERSECTIONALITY,
ALLYSHIP AND THE POWER OF LEGALLY LESBIANS
Founder of Legally Lesbians and Associate at
Hogan Lovells, Jacqui Rhule-Dagher is on a mission
to transform the legal industry into a space where
all lesbian and queer women feel seen, safe and
supported. In this candid and compelling interview,
she shares the personal journey that led her to
create Legally Lesbians, reflects on the importance
of intersectionality, and offers a powerful call
to action for firms, allies and networks to work
together in building true inclusion across the
profession.
Q. Jacqui, your initiative Legally Lesbians has received
widespread recognition. What was the turning point in
your own legal journey that made you feel ready to create
this kind of visibility for others?
A. Legally Lesbians is an initiative I founded during Lesbian
Visibility Week in April 2023. It involves lesbians and queer
women in the legal industry or in-house lawyers writing
about their careers and reflecting on the importance
of lesbian and queer visibility. These inspiring pieces of
personal writing are collected to form an article which is
published annually by DIVA magazine. I started Legally
Lesbians because I remember how discombobulating,
frightening and isolating it was when I entered the legal
industry and there was a dearth of visible role models. I did
not want other people to face these experiences. When
I entered the legal industry, I never ever imagined that I
would be out in the workplace. My sexuality is the last thing
I wanted to disclose. So much so that I used to dread being
asked: “What did you do at the weekend?” I was terrified
of outing myself If I revealed too much. The turning point
came for me when I was introduced to and started working
with other lesbian and queer lawyers. Visibility is vital! If you
don’t see people who look like you, you can start to think
that there is something wrong with the way you look. I am
proud that 75 lesbians and queer individuals have taken part
in Legally Lesbians, and that it is the only initiative of its kind
in the United Kingdom.
Q. You’ve made it a priority to spotlight lesbian lawyers
from all walks of life. Why was it so important to you
to ensure intersectionality was at the heart of Legally
Lesbians, and what can firms learn from that approach?
A. As a proud, Black, female and lesbian individual, I exist at
multiple intersections. The term intersectionality was coined
by Professor Kimberlé Crenshaw in 1989. Crenshaw was
looking into legal cases where Black women were required
to choose between bringing a claim under the headings
of ‘racism’ or ‘sexism’, but couldn’t argue that they had
been discriminated against due to the combined effects
of racism and sexism. In fact, in one of the cases, the judge
said that if these women were able to bring claims under
the headings of racism and sexism, they would have “two
swings of the bat”. Intersectionality, therefore, describes
how characteristics such as class, gender and other personal
characteristics combine, intersect and overlap with one
another.
When I founded Legally Lesbians it was really important to
me that the initiative was a welcoming space for lesbians
and queer individuals who exist at multiple intersections.
I am really proud that Legally Lesbians has included
individuals from a diverse range of ages, backgrounds,
practice areas and races. I am particularly proud that the
UK’s first trans judge, Dr Victoria McCloud, took part in the
initiative in 2024.
Firms need to recognise the importance of intersectionality
because when they fail to take an intersectional approach
but rather a characteristic by characteristic approach, what
they are effectively asking people to do is leave parts of
themselves behind. This erasure is likely to exacerbate
the feelings of isolation and marginalisation experienced
by those with multiple intersecting identities. Embracing
intersectionality should be of paramount importance
to organisations because it impacts how inclusive an
organisation is, how psychologically safe people feel
bringing their authentic selves to work and how employers
get the best from their employees.
Q. You’ve spoken openly about the fear and isolation that
comes with being closeted in the legal sector. What advice
would you give to someone in law today who is struggling
to bring their full self to work?
A. First, I would say that I understand and appreciate
their reticence. I would never want to minimise someone’s
experiences. Bringing your full self to work is not for
everyone. For anyone who wants to bring their full self to
the workplace, however, but is struggling, I would advise
them to attend LGBTQIA events which are run by law firms
or corporate entities. Happily, there are a lot more legal
LGBTQIA events than when I entered the legal industry. I
think it really helps seeing people who share the same or
similar characteristics to you thriving in the industry that
you’re in. Of course not all LGBTQIA lawyers are the same,
but I think that it helps seeing possibilities of what could
be. I would also advise them to join Employee Resource
Groups (“ERGs”). When I started my training contract, at
Clifford Chance, the firm’s LGBTQIA Network, Arcus, was a
lifeline for me. Crucially, I would advise someone struggling
to seek out people who they can connect with on a human
level. It is important to surround yourself with people who
you can trust and who can act as a sounding board. I am
very fortunate to know lesbians and queer individuals in the
legal industry who are both a credit to the profession and
humanity more generally.
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INTERVIEWS
Q. From your seat on the UK Pride Network Steering
Committee and The Law Society’s LGBTQ+ Solicitors
Network Steering Committee, what positive changes have
you seen in the legal industry’s approach to LGBTQIA
inclusion, and what gaps still need closing?
A. I sit on the Hogan Lovells UK Pride Network Steering
Committee and I joined The Law Society’s LGBTQ+
Solicitors Network Steering Committee in February 2022.
When I entered the legal industry the latter was not even in
existence (it was founded in 2016).
Back in June, I attended the Pride in Practice event which
was organised by The Law Society, The Bar Council of
England and Wales and the four Inns of Court (Gray’s
Inn, The Honourable Society of the Inner Temple, The
Honourable Society of Lincoln’s Inn and The Honourable
Society of the Middle Temple), this is something that would
have been unthinkable a decade ago. Yet in a packed room,
we heard speeches from Barbara Mills KC, Chair of the
Bar Council of England and Wales, and Ian Jeffrey, Chief
Executive at the Law Society of England and Wales, showing
their support for the LGBTQIA community.
Several law firms have made great strides towards
LGBTQIA inclusion. Some examples of this include hosting
lunch and learn sessions around issues impacting the
LGBTQIA community, creating inclusive policies within
their organisations in relation to parental leave and fertility
treatment, for example, and implementing mandatory
training sessions on topics such as microaggressions and
unconscious bias.
Notwithstanding this, it is a sad fact that not all of the letters
of the LGBTQIA acronym are afforded the same levels of
kindness, respect and support. The trans community, for
example, who the modern LGBTQIA movement owe so
much to, continue to face antipathy, hostility and insensitivity
on a daily basis. I wish I had all of the answers, but I do know
that calling out homophobic/lesbophobic/ transphobic
language/ behaviour and educating others and ourselves
(because it is essential to recognise your own biases) can
help to improve challenging situations. Equality means
nothing unless it’s for everyone.
Q. You’ve described how Employee Resource Groups often
work in silos. What do truly collaborative, intersectional
initiatives look like, and why are they so critical to
belonging and representation in law firms?
A. As a trainee, I was part of the BME Network and the
LGBTQIA Network. I would attend monthly meetings
for each group and, oftentimes, it was clear that the
groups were striving for the same things. Yet they never
collaborated, which was a wasted opportunity (not least
from a sharing of resources standpoint).
With this in mind, I founded Carnival Comes to Clifford
Chance. This was an annual summer party, hosted jointly by
both networks, which had a focus on intersectionality. It was
supported by Channel 4 and Stonewall. I am proud that it
ran for eight years.
More recently, in September 2023, I founded the Hogan
Lovells LoveALL Festival. This event celebrated the firm’s
commitment to ensuring that everyone can bring their
authentic selves to the workplace.
Truly collaborative and intersectional initiatives, therefore,
see ERGs operating in unison. These initiatives also have the
support of the organisation’s key stakeholders.
The importance of ERGs cannot be overstated. Although
one of their chief aims is to ensure that an organisation
is inclusive, their impact transcends furthering an
organisation’s strategic goals. They help to create a culture
where people feel respected, supported and uplifted.
Further, they also amplify the voices of employees who
might face marginalisation and ensure that they are assisted
in a more authentic and rigorous way. If your organisation
is a global one, ERGs can act as a blue print for jurisdictions
who might not be as far along in their inclusion journey
as others. Significantly, they have the ability to turn an
organisation’s initiatives from the mythical to the tangible,
lived experiences.
Q. How can allies, both inside and outside the LGBTQIA
community, show up meaningfully for lesbian lawyers and
help amplify the impact of Legally Lesbians?
A. Being an ally is not a title one holds. Rather, it is about
the consistent actions one engages in their daily lives
to offer support. Fundamentally, “allyship” is a verb and
it is meaningless unless its first three letters “all” are
remembered. Allies need to be prepared for a lifetime
of learning, unlearning, being educated and regularly
challenging their own assumptions and biases.
When I think of the word “ally”, I am reminded of the words
of Archbishop Desmond Tutu who said: “If you are neutral
in the face of injustice, you have chosen the side of the
oppressor.”
In terms of what allies can do both inside and outside the
LGBTIQA community, I think that those of us within the
LGBTQIA community must remember that we can be allies
to each other. Right now, the trans community really needs
our support and our focus should be on providing this.
It is important for allies outside the LGBTQIA community
to remember that if they are speaking over members of
the LGBTQIA community to centre and elevate themselves,
then they’re not supporting the LGBTQIA community,
but exploiting it. Significantly, the best allies adopt an
intersectional mindset. They recognise that there is little
point supporting one part of a person’s identity only to
ignore and denigrate other aspects.
One of the best ways people can support lesbians in the
legal industry, therefore, is by recognising that lesbians are
not a monolith. There are as many ways to be a lesbian in
the legal industry as there are varieties of teas; and each and
every one of these individuals is deserving of allies, respect
and dignity.
Finally, if you are a lesbian or queer
individual in the legal industry,
or you know any lesbian or
queer individuals in the legal
industry who might be
interested in taking part in
Legally Lesbians, please
feel free to reach out to
me on LinkedIn.
Jacqui Rhule-Dagher,
Associate, Hogan
Lovells International
LLP and Founder,
Legally Lesbians
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Progress with Pride:
How the Legal Profession Is
Embracing LGBTQ+ Inclusion
INTERVIEWS
Mark Evans, Vice President of the Law Society of
England and Wales, shares his reflections on how
the legal profession has progressed in its support
for LGBTQ+ individuals, from a time when many
felt compelled to hide their identity, to a present
where inclusion is increasingly embedded in
workplace culture. In this candid conversation,
he discusses the importance of Pride, the power
of visible leadership, and the role of legal
institutions in driving real change through data,
policy, and community engagement. As the
profession looks ahead, Evans calls for bold,
strategic commitments to ensure equality,
diversity and inclusion are not just aspirations,
but everyday realities.
QAs Vice President of the Law Society, how have you
seen the legal profession evolve in its support and
inclusion of LGBTQ+ individuals over the years?
AThe legal profession has evolved alongside society.
Today, we see firms and organisations supporting
their LGBTQ+ staff and clients through internal and
external initiatives. This includes developing inclusive policies
to support LGBTQ+ staff, engaging with employee resource
groups to hear lived experiences, sponsoring LGBTQ+
employees, reverse mentoring schemes to support LGBTQ+
employee progression, pro bono services tailored to LGBTQ+
communities, sponsoring LGBTQ+ charities and listing on
LGBTQ+ equality indexes.
QIn your view, what role should legal institutions
play in championing LGBTQ+ rights both within the
profession and in wider society?
AOrganisations must embed LGBTQ+ inclusion in
services, procedures and rights by consulting with
LGBTQ+ communities, collecting data and taking
action through equality impact assessment work as well
as measuring impact. The legal profession must reflect the
society it serves – one that is diverse, where everyone can
expect to be treated fairly and feel included. Innovation
flourishes when people are welcomed, encouraged and
supported to contribute their unique perspectives.
QWhy does supporting Pride, and visibly celebrating it
within the legal sector, still matter today?
APride provides an important opportunity to show
solidarity and visible support for the LGBTQ+
community in the legal profession. I recently had the
pleasure of connecting with LGBTQ+ colleagues and allies
at Pride Cymru. I will be the third Welsh president at the
Law Society of England and Wales, and it was particularly
meaningful for me to march in Cardiff. Pride is a time to
remember the grassroots activism and fight for rights and
recognition in society which continues today. We know
there are still challenges in the workplace, our ‘Pride in the
Law’ research* highlighted that more than one third (37%)
of respondents said they had experienced homophobia,
biphobia or transphobia in their workplace.
QCan you share any personal experiences or standout
moments in your career that highlight progress (or
challenges) in LGBTQ+ inclusion within the legal
community?
AWhen I joined the profession in the early 1990’s, I had
friends that hid their sexuality – now they don’t. I have
attended a lot of Pride events but my first representing
the Law Society was at Pride Cymru in 2017. In 2017, the
numbers representing the profession were relatively small but
having attended Pride Cymru in 2024 and 2025, we now have
hundreds attending. To witness firms and families embrace
being part of the community has been my standout moment
of progress. It is important that we get together and show
support and solidarity as barriers still exist. Rest assured that
I will do all that I can to increase inclusion and diversity in the
workplace.
QWhat are some of the most effective ways the legal
profession can improve its approach to equality,
diversity, and inclusion overall?
AEquality, diversity and inclusion (EDI) work should
be embedded in firms and organisations’ business
strategies. As part of a commitment to EDI, it is
important to have buy in and visible support from senior staff
and adapt to the regulatory and legislative landscape, for
example publishing data for pay gap reporting.
QLooking ahead, what changes or commitments
would you like to see across the industry to ensure
lasting progress in EDI?
AI would like to see firms and organisations develop a
clear strategic framework aligned with organisational
values and goals that embed equality, diversity and
inclusion to drive change in the workplace culture. Taking a
data informed approach, like our diversity and inclusion (D&I)
framework**. Evaluating initiatives against agreed objectives
and outcomes is essential to measure and understand the
impact of EDI work.
Notes
* See our Pride in the Law research.
** See our diversity and inclusion (D&I) framework. Our D&I
framework sets out guidance for law firms and organisations
regarding how to take a systematic approach and embed D&I
in a way that has a lasting impact.
Mark Evans,
Vice President at The Law Society
of England and Wales
EDITORIAL
BOARD
Finding My Tribe: Why Spring and
Summer Bring Out the Best in Me
While many dread networking events
and conferences, for me, they’re the
highlight of the year. Here’s why
surrounding yourself with the right
people, your tribe, can transform your
career and your happiness.
Spring and early Summer is one of the busiest
times of year for me, and I love it.
While some people dread events and
conferences, for me, those diary slots are bright
points in my calendar. The reason is simple: I
found my tribe a long time ago.
For those who know me, the role I’ve been in for
the last 20 or more years is pretty much perfect.
I’m CRO, and essentially, my main responsibility
is engaging with prospective clients and building
and maintaining relationships with suppliers to
the legal sector, my network. It suits me because
I love meeting people. I always have.
For many, the idea of networking is terrifying.
Finding your tribe can ease that fear, and may
even allow you to enjoy the experience.
Colleagues- Look for a business where you
believe in what you’re doing, and where your
colleagues are people, you enjoy working with.
You trust them. You laugh with them. The
culture suits you and aligns with your values.
Clients- Work with people you genuinely want
to support. Build relationships that make daily
interactions pleasant. Take the time to really get
to know them.
Contacts- Build a network of people who share
your values. People who are credible, who
understand the value of what you do, and
where, in return, you’re able to articulate (and
believe in) what they do.
When I walk into a networking event, contrary
to popular belief, I don’t know everyone in the
room. I may recognise a few friendly faces, and
it’s always great to reconnect, but I also look
forward to meeting new people. The presence of
existing contacts is a real help. If you follow the
principle of working and connecting with people
you know, like and trust, those people can
often introduce you to others you’ll naturally
get along with. A warm introduction like that is
always exciting, it’s how friendships and lasting
connections are born.
I believe a key part of ‘know, like and trust’ is
sharing core values. You don’t have to agree on
everything, but fundamental differences can be
hard to overcome.
Working with colleagues, clients and contacts
who are, to one extent or another, also friends,
makes life better. These friends support and help
one another, which, in my view, makes the world
just that little bit better too.
Alex Holt,
Chief Revenue Officer,
The Cash Room
Beyond the Policy: Creating
Psychological Safety for LGBTQ+
Legal Professionals
While most firms now have policies
in place to comply with equality
legislation, the lived experience
of LGBTQ+ professionals still lags
behind. Legal workplaces can be highpressure,
hierarchical, and culturally
conservative, conditions that can
stifle authenticity if inclusion is not
actively nurtured.
Having worked in legal M&A for over three
decades, I’ve seen how profoundly a firm’s culture
can impact not just retention and performance,
but whether talented individuals feel they truly
belong. The conversation around diversity
must now evolve beyond policy to focus on
psychological safety, the ability to speak, act, and
be oneself without fear of marginalisation or subtle
exclusion.
The Quiet Cost of Exclusion
For LGBTQ+ professionals, particularly trans and
nonbinary individuals, the cost of navigating
non-inclusive environments is rarely visible. It
can mean choosing between coming out or
remaining guarded. It can mean hearing jokes
that go unchallenged, or avoiding networking
opportunities out of fear. The result? A loss of
confidence, creativity, and connection.
Psychological safety isn’t created through
statements or diversity days. It’s built through
consistent action: daily behaviours, structural
support, and a culture where difference isn’t just
tolerated, it’s respected.
What Real Inclusion Looks Like
There are a few key areas where firms, large or
small, can focus their energy:
Leadership visibility: Inclusion has to be modelled
from the top. Leaders who talk openly about their
support for LGBTQ+ rights, and who show up (not
just speak up) as allies, set a cultural tone that
filters throughout the business.
Inclusive systems and structures: From onboarding
forms with space for pronouns to genderneutral
dress codes, inclusion is built into the
infrastructure.
Learning environments: Regular, thoughtful
training, not as a tick-box exercise, but as a chance
for growth, helps build awareness and reduce
unconscious bias. Training should go beyond
language to explore the systemic barriers LGBTQ+
people may face.
Safe channels for feedback: A psychologically
safe workplace requires mechanisms for raising
concerns and giving feedback, confidentially, fairly,
and without fear of reprisal.
Mentoring and community: LGBTQ+ employees
benefit enormously from access to visible role
models, mentors, and peer support.
The Roles of Recruitment and Transition
The recruitment process can either affirm a
person’s identity, or erase it. Legal recruitment
professionals must be conscious of the language
they use, the assumptions they make, and the
questions they ask. They have a role in advising
clients on inclusive practices, not just who to hire,
but how to support them.
Equally, in the context of mergers and acquisitions,
inclusion should be part of cultural due diligence.
What policies exist? What’s the lived experience?
How do LGBTQ+ staff fare during integration?
Getting It Right
None of this is easy. The firms that succeed in
today’s legal market will be those that build trust
and psychological safety for everyone. That means
seeing inclusion not as a one-off initiative, but as a
core part of how law is practiced, led, and lived.
Neville Dinshaw,
Managing Director of Law, Mergers &
Acquisitions
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Sam Kimber,
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Genealogist, Pro-Gen Research
Stuart Whiter,
Associate Portfolio Director,
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Evolving Client Expectations
in Probate Genealogy: A
Communication-Focused Response
In the twenty years that I have worked in the
probate genealogy field, I have noticed a significant
shift in client needs and expectations, particularly
around communication. When we relied on post or
DX, clients would necessarily await periodic updates
from the researcher. With the rise of technology,
today’s clients are far more proactive.
Traditionally, most communication occurred during standard office hours, with
the pace of probate administration largely dictated by internal legal timelines.
Now, it is entirely usual for anyone involved in the administration of an estate,
whether an instructing fee earner, Executor, or beneficiary, to make enquiries
at any time of day. Many beneficiaries are based overseas, and the nature of
their time zones means that queries often arrive outside of usual UK working
hours. These societal shifts reflect broader changes in how we all expect to
access services.
We have responded by improving our responsiveness by opening multiple
channels of communication to suit individual preferences (including
WhatsApp, Facebook, and others), setting clear expectations around
turnaround times, and maintaining a flexible and personal communication
style.
The nature of probate genealogy means there are often periods when
progress may appear to stall, typically while we wait for certificates or
documentation to arrive, or for responses from beneficiaries we have
contacted. Understandably, this can be frustrating for the fee earner. To
mitigate this, we have built check-in points into our workflow and adopted a
more open and transparent communication style. Keeping clients regularly
informed helps to build trust and manage expectations, elements which are
reflected clearly in the positive feedback we receive.
We have also developed a service that investigates the status and
whereabouts of beneficiaries named in wills before the fee earner initiates
contact. This proactive approach helps to pre-empt complications, prevent
delays, and reduce the chance of misinformation. It ultimately supports
solicitors in providing their own clients with a smoother, more efficient, and
transparent experience. These are simple shifts in approach, but ones that
speak volumes to today’s clients.
Finally, we have seen a sharp rise in statutory will applications, particularly
within Court of Protection matters. These often require detailed family trees
to support applications to the Court, ensuring that best-interest decisions are
fully informed. There is far greater scrutiny in such matters, and clients rightly
expect research to be not only accurate but also presented in a format that
supports legal analysis. Our reports have evolved accordingly by combining
clarity, evidence, and a straightforward structure, while remaining sensitive to
the human stories behind each case.
Today’s clients expect more from communication, and rightly so. Meeting
those expectations requires a combination of professional empathy,
transparency, clarity, and foresight, which we are proud to embed in the way
we work.
Beyond Rainbow Logos: Building
LGBTQ+ Inclusion in Law
The legal sector, long regarded as a bastion of tradition
and conservatism, is undergoing a quiet but essential
evolution. As a recruiter working closely with law firms and
legal professionals, I’ve seen firsthand the growing - yet
uneven - commitment to Pride, inclusivity, and authentic
support for LGBTQ+ talent. While progress is being made,
it’s clear that many firms are still struggling to move
beyond symbolic gestures and create genuinely inclusive
workplaces.
From Visibility to Accountability
June brings a predictable wave of rainbow logos, LinkedIn posts, and
sponsored Pride events. While visibility matters, performative allyship
without systemic follow-through is a growing concern. Candidates –
especially younger LGBTQ+ professionals – are becoming more discerning.
They’re asking tougher questions about firm culture, representation in
leadership, and year-round DEI efforts. A Pride post carries little weight if
it isn’t backed by tangible action.
Challenges in the Legal Profession
The legal industry poses unique hurdles for LGBTQ+ inclusion. It’s often
hierarchical, risk-averse, and steeped in traditional, heteronormative
ideas of professionalism. LGBTQ+ individuals – particularly those who are
transgender, nonbinary, or people of colour – face additional bias and
invisibility.
Retention is another issue. LGBTQ+ lawyers report higher rates of mental
health challenges and are more likely to leave firms where they feel
isolated. Representation matters, but inclusion drives retention.
What Candidates Want to See
As a recruiter, I’m often asked:
• Are there openly LGBTQ+ partners?
• Do ERGs have real budget and influence?
• Are pronouns respected internally and externally?
• Does the firm speak out on LGBTQ+ rights beyond Pride?
• How is bias addressed in promotions and reviews?
These aren’t “nice-to-haves.” For many candidates, they’re deal-breakers.
The Recruiter’s Role
Recruiters aren’t just intermediaries, we’re cultural barometers. We must
challenge surface-level DEI and support candidates in assessing true
inclusivity. It’s not enough to hire LGBTQ+ professionals; firms must create
environments where they can thrive, lead, and feel safe.
That includes revising policies, offering bias training, updating benefits
language, and fostering open dialogue around identity and inclusion.
A Call for Authenticity
Pride isn’t a PR opportunity; it’s a reminder of the ongoing fight for
equality. The legal sector, with its influence, must lead authentically. Firms
earning LGBTQ+ trust are those doing the real work: supporting affinity
groups, mentoring queer talent, and listening, really listening, to their
people.
Pride should be a celebration and a checkpoint. Are we building a
profession where everyone, regardless of identity, can thrive?
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Conveyancing in 2025:
Embracing Change, Elevating
Service
Conveyancing in 2025 presents both
exciting opportunities and significant
challenges for legal service providers.
As the property market shows signs
of recovery, firms are experiencing a
surge in transactions. While this is a
positive development, it also brings
increased pressure to deliver faster, more
efficient services while maintaining high
standards. Clients today expect more
than ever, they want speed, transparency,
and seamless digital access. Meeting
these expectations requires firms to
be agile, tech-savvy, and deeply clientfocused.
Digital tools have become essential rather than
optional. Integrated case management systems,
e-signatures, and mobile client portals are now
critical to streamlining workflows, reducing errors,
and enhancing the overall client experience.
These technologies also support compliance with
increasingly stringent regulatory requirements,
particularly around Anti-Money Laundering
(AML). Firms that embrace smart tech are better
positioned to meet these demands while delivering
a smoother, more transparent process for clients.
At XYZ, we’ve chosen to embrace the pace of
change rather than resist it. We’re working closely
with our case management provider to find
smarter, faster ways of working that improve the
client journey. We’re constantly exploring how
technology can enhance our services and are
committed to evolving wherever possible. But we
also recognise that technology alone isn’t enough.
This is, at its core, a people-driven industry.
That’s why we’re investing in our teams, providing
training and development to ensure everyone
understands the importance of listening to clients
and adapting to their individual needs. Flexibility,
empathy, and clear communication are just as vital
as legal expertise.
Innovation and digital transformation are central
to our growth strategy. They allow us to deliver
on the key pillars of modern legal service: speed,
clarity, and compliance. Tools like automated ID
checks and digital onboarding don’t just help us
meet regulatory requirements, they also make the
process easier and more transparent for clients.
By automating routine tasks, we free up time to
focus on what really matters: building trust and
delivering a personalised, reassuring experience.
Client needs are evolving rapidly. People now
expect legal services to fit around their lives, not
the other way around. Many clients don’t fully
understand the complexity of conveyancing and
may see it as a simple administrative task. It’s our
job to bridge that gap, explaining why certain
steps are necessary, keeping clients informed,
and ensuring they feel confident throughout the
process. Clients don’t want to chase updates; they
want proactive communication and a sense that
their concerns are being heard.
Our goal is to deliver a service that combines
the best of both worlds: the convenience and
accessibility of digital tools with the reassurance
and expertise of experienced legal professionals.
By staying attuned to client expectations and
continually evolving our approach, we’re not just
keeping up with the pace of change, we’re helping
to shape the future of legal services.
Samantha Burrows,
Partner, XYZ Law Solicitors
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Adrian Jaggard,
CEO, Taylor Rose
Alex Miell,
Chief People Officer,
SmartSearch
Transforming Legal Practice:
Launching Our Fully
Cloud-Based Management
Platform
Building Inclusion into Every
Step: How SmartSearch Embeds
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Across the Employee Journey
Innovation and digital transformation sit at the heart of
Taylor Rose’s strategy for sustainable growth. They are not
optional enhancements, they form the core foundation of
our smart, modern firm.
Over the summer we are rolling out a fully cloud-based practice management
platform which is a clear demonstration to this commitment. Developed using
Salesforce technology, this market-leading system provides a stable, scalable
and secure infrastructure that meets the needs of the modern lawyer. Crucially,
it allows our teams to work flexibly, from any device, which not only enhances
productivity but also improves work-life balance.
By housing all our operational and client data in one integrated system,
we’ve laid the groundwork for AI innovation, including intelligent document
processing and smart automation. These capabilities don’t just improve
efficiency, they free up our people to focus on high-value work, delivering
better outcomes for clients and created space for continued professional
growth.
Innovation of this kind is more than a technology upgrade; it’s a cultural
shift. We’re embedding new ways of working across every specialism in the
firm, from property and private client to litigation and corporate commercial.
Workflows are being redesigned with compliance, usability and performance
in mind, making the day-to-day work of our lawyers more streamlined and
intuitive.
This transformation also supports our wider support teams, Client Care, IT,
Finance and Legal Support giving them tools that allow for faster, smarter
service delivery. The response from our people has been overwhelmingly
positive, and we’ve backed the transition with interactive training, video
resource and live support to ensure a smooth and inclusive rollout.
As we look to the future, this investment gives us a strong and adaptable
platform to scale our operations and explore the full potential of AI and
emerging technologies. Whether it’s automating routine processes, improving
data-driven decision making, or innovating how we serve our clients – the
possibilities are significant.
Ultimately, our focus is simple: to give our lawyers and support teams the best
possible platform to succeed because when they thrive, our clients do too and
that is what drives our business forward.
At SmartSearch, our commitment to Diversity, Equity,
and Inclusion (DE&I) isn’t just a policy; it’s built into
our employee lifecycle, fundamentally powered by our
core behaviours: Being Bold, Collaborative, and Focused
Execution. We believe that having an inclusive culture builds
strong foundations of innovation and sustained success, and
take it seriously at every stage.
Our journey starts with recruitment, where we actively break down barriers
to find all kinds of talent. We write our job descriptions using clear, neutral
language, making sure everyone feels welcome from the start. Our hiring process
is fair and structured, with different people on interview panels. This helps us
make better decisions and stops unconscious bias. This focused approach means
we look everywhere for great people, no matter their background.
Once someone joins SmartSearch, we work hard on keeping them and making
sure they feel valued. We’re currently taking a step, looking closely at how we
structure jobs to ensure fair pay for everyone. We regularly check salaries to
make sure pay is equal for similar roles. Our benefits package is designed to
support real lives, covering mental health, flexible working, and good parental
leave. Our managers also get ongoing training to be fair and consistent. We even
do ‘stay’ interviews – a collaborative way to listen to concerns and keep people
engaged. This helps to create an open relationship where everyone knows where
they stand and helps us keep our teams happy.
For progression, we make sure everyone has an equal chance to learn and grow.
We believe promotions should be based on what you achieve, not just how long
you’ve been here. To show what progression looks like in our business, we set
up a mentoring programme to pass on knowledge and skills throughout the
business. We also feel that this is key to connecting newer team members with
senior leaders. This helps them grow faster, get noticed, and receive valuable
advice.
As well as passing on knowledge, it’s vital that we build a leadership team that
reflects both our people and society. We plan carefully for who will lead next,
spotting and nurturing talented individuals. We’re bold in making sure these
people can access leadership training and move up, with no barriers to joining
our top team. We’re really proud that women now make up more of our wider
leadership team (55%/45%) than men. This isn’t by chance; it shows our strong
effort to remove old obstacles and build a place where female leaders can really
shine.
Finally, our DE&I work is driven by data and is open for all to see. We use data to
find any differences, track our progress, and keep improving our strategy. Soon,
a new HR system will give us even more insight. This evidence-based way of
working means we’re transparent, which keeps us accountable. It helps us make
real decisions and achieve measurable change. Our employee surveys, done at
key times and twice a year, are important. We don’t just collect feedback; we
collaboratively listen and involve our employees in finding solutions. This builds
trust and helps us keep getting better at being an inclusive place to work.
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Embracing Emerging
Technologies in Law: Challenges
and Opportunities
AI, blockchain and cryptocurrencies are
reshaping the legal landscape. While
the potential benefits are vast, many
firms struggle with where to begin.
Understanding your clients, your
departments and your firm’s readiness
is key to transforming challenges into
meaningful opportunities.
The biggest opportunities and challenges
facing legal service providers today lie in
understanding and implementing artificial
intelligence, blockchain and cryptocurrencies.
These areas offer enormous potential, yet
they also present significant challenges,
which often act as a barrier to adoption for
many firms.
As with any innovation, it is essential to
approach these developments with an open
mind, without feeling pressured to adopt
technology for its own sake. A more effective
strategy is to conduct a gap analysis across
your departments to identify how new
technologies might enhance your practice.
Importantly, this should be a decision made
by your firm, not one driven by external
service providers.
Consider how these technologies might serve
your clients. For example, a high street firm
handling conveyancing for older clients may
find limited use for artificial intelligence,
while a corporate firm in London with
an international client base might find it
invaluable.
We are undoubtedly entering a new era of
legal practice, but the greatest challenge
lies in understanding what will work for your
specific firm. Once those challenges are
identified and addressed, the opportunities
will naturally follow, turning initial obstacles
into tangible advantages.
Priscilla Sinder,
Managing Director, PC Consultancy
Pride, Progress, and Purpose:
How Clio Champions Inclusion
in Legal Tech
In a world where legal systems are
built on the principles of fairness and
justice, the industry itself must lead
by example. At Clio, we believe that
creating a more equitable, inclusive
legal sector starts with us.
Clio’s culture is rooted in the belief that
everyone, regardless of sexual orientation,
gender identity, or background, deserves to
belong. We don’t just hang a rainbow flag
in June and call it a day. We invest in the
year-round work of building a truly inclusive
workplace and product ecosystem; because
love is love, and law should protect and
reflect that.
Internally, we champion diversity, equity,
and inclusion at every level of the business.
From bias-free recruitment practices to
inclusive leadership training and employeeled
resource groups like Talk Diversity
Inclusion, we’re proud to foster a culture
where 2SLGBTQIA+ team members feel safe,
supported, and celebrated. Our benefits
reflect this too, offering gender-affirming
care, inclusive parental leave, and access to
mental health resources for all employees,
including those with chosen families.
We know visibility matters. That’s why our
leadership actively supports and sponsors
DEI initiatives, and why we create space for
employee voices to shape company policies.
We run regular engagement surveys to
hold ourselves accountable and inform our
future progress, because building inclusion
isn’t a tick-box exercise; it’s an evolving
commitment.
Our values extend beyond our own walls. Clio
supports thousands of law firms globally, and
we recognise the power legal professionals
have to shape society. That’s why we design
our technology to help them run more
inclusive, client-centred firms, whether that’s
through accessible digital communications,
flexible client intake tools, or billing systems
designed with client flexibility in mind,
supporting clear communication, transparent
pricing, and inclusive language.
The legal industry is undergoing a
transformation; driven by client expectations,
technological change, and the urgent need
for more equitable access to justice. Firms
that embrace innovation and inclusivity will
be the ones that thrive. Clio is proud to stand
at the intersection of these shifts, helping
legal professionals modernise their practice
and their mindset.
As we look to the future, our aspiration
is clear: to build not just the most
comprehensive legal operating system, but
the most inclusive one. A platform, and a
company, that reflects the diverse world it
serves. That’s what Pride in law means to us.
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General Manager, Clio International
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– But There’s Still Work to Do
As Vice-Chair of The Law Society’s LGBTQ+ Solicitors Network Committee, legal consultant Kirsty
Limacher shares her personal journey through the profession, from feeling isolated as a trainee to
championing inclusion and visibility today. In this candid interview, she explores how attitudes in the
legal sector have shifted, the unique challenges still faced by LGBTQIA+ clients and professionals, and
why genuine allyship and cultural change remain crucial to building a truly inclusive future for the law.
Championing LGBTQIA+ Rights in
the Legal Profession
Q. As Vice-Chair of The Law Society’s
LGBTQ+ Solicitors Network Committee, how
have you seen attitudes toward LGBTQIA+
inclusion in law evolve over the years? What
progress has been made, and where do you
think the profession still needs to improve?
A. A lot of progress has been made in the nearly
two decades since I joined the profession as a
trainee solicitor. Back then I didn’t know any other
lawyers who were also part of the LGBTQIA+
community, and it felt lonely at times. That
has certainly changed, and I have the LGBTQ+
Solicitors Network to thank for that, it opened my
world to a fantastically diverse network of people
visibly supporting the community.
There has been a clear shift in the profession’s
awareness and commitment to LGBTQIA+
inclusion. Many law firms now recognise the
importance of creating a diverse and supportive
environment for their staff, from Pride networks
to inclusive recruitment processes, which is
encouraging.
Whilst visibility for LGB professionals has greatly
improved, we still have work to do when it comes
to trans and non-binary inclusion, especially
in terms of policy, education, and challenging
everyday biases. Since the “For Women Scotland”
Supreme Court judgement in April, I know a lot of
my colleagues in the profession feel we’ve taken
a step back. We need to remember to be kind to
each other and to use our voices to support one
another when we can.
Creating Safe and Inclusive Legal
Services
Q. Through your work whilst practising as
a solicitor you provided a safe space for
LGBTQIA+ clients seeking legal advice and
you’re now as a legal consultant at The
Association of Lifetime Lawyers. What
unique challenges do LGBTQIA+ individuals
face when accessing legal services, and how
can law firms better support their needs?
A. Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
have many of the same legal issues as anyone
else but sometimes have extra hurdles to
overcome. There’s a fear when accessing legal
services, shaped by past experiences, that their
situation and relationships won’t be understood
or respected and that they will experience
discrimination. More complex circumstances can
arise from things like estrangement from family
members and relationships that aren’t legally
recognised.
But sometimes small changes can make a
significant difference, listening carefully,
avoiding assumptions, and demonstrating
respect. Even something as simple as using
gender neutral wording in documentation can
have a big impact. When practising, I specialised
in private client work, mainly wills, probate and
estate administration, and Lasting Powers of
Attorney. I’ve provided training to other private
client lawyers on issues to consider when
advising LGBTQIA+ clients covering things such
as asking about pronouns and titles, alternative
relationship structures and ethical nonmonogamy,
the impact of IVF and surrogacy on
wills and legal relationships, gender recognition,
and family homophobia and estrangement.
It’s important for law firms to be aware of
these issues, not to make assumptions, and to
provide tailored advice to their LGBTQIA+ clients
accounting for their individual circumstances.
The Power of Visibility and
Advocacy
Q: Representation matters. How important
is it for LGBTQIA+ professionals in law to
be visible and open about their identities?
What impact does representation have on
both individuals and the wider profession?
A. Our Pride in the Law research in 2021
showed that a lack of LGBT+ role models in
the workplace is still a pressing issue for many
respondents. Having visible LGBTQIA+ role
models who are thriving in the profession,
particularly in senior roles, makes it much easier
for those joining the profession to feel more
comfortable about bringing their whole selves
to work. For those willing and able to be visible,
it can have a profound ripple effect. I’ve been
fortunate to be out during my career without
direct discrimination, though I’m aware others
haven’t had the same experience. This is what
motivated me to join the LGBTQ+ Solicitors
Network Committee, so I could use my voice to
advocate for those who don’t feel able to do so
for themselves.
That said, being open about your identity
is a deeply personal choice, no-one should
feel forced to be out if they don’t want to
be, visibility shouldn’t be a requirement for
inclusion. The responsibility also lies with allies
and institutions to create environments where
people feel safe and empowered to be themselves
without fear of judgement or disadvantage.
Driving Systemic Change and
Combating Discrimination
Q. Discrimination against LGBTQIA+
individuals still persists in workplaces. In
your view, what are the most effective
ways for the legal profession to tackle
discrimination and build truly inclusive
environments?
A. Visible support needs to be provided at all
levels of an organisation, starting with those in
leadership positions, inclusion must start at the
top. Firms need to move beyond policy and look
at culture: who gets heard in meetings, who gets
promoted, whose concerns get taken seriously.
Education is important and should be embedded
in the workplace culture; firms shouldn’t expect
their LGBTQIA+ staff members to do all the heavy
lifting in educating colleagues.
Allies are an essential part of this. If you see
discrimination happening don’t stay quiet,
speak out, talk to HR, and offer support to your
colleagues. This type of active allyship is so
important to those experiencing both direct and
indirect discrimination in the workplace and helps
to build a more inclusive working environment. Be
kind to another and show respect, use the name
someone has introduced themselves with and the
pronouns shared with you and consider sharing
yours with others, so they know they’re safe to do
the same.
Kirsty Limacher,
Legal Consultant,
The Association of Lifetime Lawyers
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Why the Legal Profession Must
Step Up for LGBTQ+ Rights
For a long time, I believed in the steady march of progress. I assumed, naively, that
the trajectory of LGBTQ+ rights only moved forward: that each hard-won gain would
pave the way for the next, that visibility would lead to safety, and that legal protection
would lead to cultural acceptance. This year, I have felt disheartened. Across the US,
the UK and all over the world, we are witnessing a backlash.
IN-DEPTH
Anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric is being platformed and normalised.
Hard-fought rights are under review or being actively
eroded. Queer people are being vilified in political discourse,
misrepresented in media, and scapegoated in cultural
debates we did not start. What was once a conversation
about how to accelerate progress has, in some cases,
become a fight just to hold the line. And the toll on queer
individuals, especially trans and non-binary people, is
immense. This is not just a cultural shift; it is a legal and
structural one. In many places, laws are being proposed or
passed that strip back protections and dignity. That is not the
future I envisioned when I started my career, and it is not one
I am prepared to sit back and accept.
When I joined Pride in London as their Director of Legal, it
felt like a culmination of both my personal and professional
journey. As someone who came out early in my career,
my parents expressed serious concern that my sexuality
might derail my progression. When I began my career in
my hometown in Scotland, there were no immediately
visible LGBTQ+ role models in law. It was that absence that
motivated me. Over my career to date, spanning several
global private practice firms and now in-house at a major
UK construction contractor, I have built and co-chaired
LGBTQ+ employee resource groups, spoken on panels, and
volunteered for initiatives supporting queer colleagues.
Stepping into the role at Pride in London gave me the
chance to draw on that experience. It is a space where law,
identity and advocacy converge, and it has enabled me to
channel that intersection to push for broader change across
the profession.
Compared to many sectors, the legal profession has clear
strengths when it comes to LGBTQ+ inclusion. Many firms
have well-established D&I programmes, budget for inclusion
initiatives, and increasingly active LGBTQ+ networks. There
is often an established understanding that discrimination,
whether overt or subtle, damages not only people but also
business. That said, we must not conflate visibility with
genuine progress. In other sectors – tech, media, even parts
of finance – we are seeing LGBTQ+ professionals rise to
senior leadership more visibly and more frequently. In law,
by contrast, there is still a noticeable absence of LGBTQ+
role models at the top. The profession remains, in many
ways, cautiously traditional. Networks may exist, but they
are often operating in silos. They are valued, yes, but are
not always integrated into a firm’s strategic vision. In some
places, inclusion is treated as a branding exercise more than
a behavioural one. I wonder whether law can sometimes lag
behind because we over-intellectualise change rather than
embracing it emotively and embedding it into daily culture.
As a result, for LGBTQ+ individuals in law, the challenges
can often be insidious rather than overt. Microaggressions,
questions about fit and culture, or the quiet exclusion from
informal settings can still shape people’s daily experience.
There is the unspoken pressure to code-switch, to tone
down queerness for the sake of perceived professionalism.
There is also the reality that few queer professionals see
themselves reflected in the partnership track or in executivelevel
leadership. Too many inclusive policies remain static
documents; they are not connected to accountability
or to leadership performance reviews. If inclusion is not
incentivised, it stays superficial. Legal teams and institutions
need to be more deliberate in their action. That means
tracking the data on LGBTQ+ progression and retention,
training beyond basic awareness, and building systems
where people are rewarded for inclusive leadership. We
need mentoring and sponsorship programmes that do not
just support LGBTQ+ juniors but actively position them for
success, and we need to create spaces where conversations
about identity are not uncomfortable or performative, but
rather are normalised and welcomed.
The law plays a unique role in shaping societal attitudes.
Whether it is marriage equality, protections for trans
individuals, or conversion therapy bans, legal reform has
repeatedly been a lever for cultural change. That only
happens when lawyers step into that space proactively,
when we do not just react to legal shifts but actively help
create them. As legal professionals, we can partner with
advocacy groups, take on pro bono work that pushes policy
boundaries, and use our voice to influence reform. Our
influence also shows up in more everyday moments: how we
speak in meetings, how we engage with clients and counsel,
how we shape firm policy. Colleagues watch. Trainees watch.
Clients watch. Inclusion, when modelled consistently, sets a
tone that echoes far beyond any single case or contract.
We can, and must, do more. That starts with clear metrics:
targets for LGBTQ+ representation, training completion,
and progression. It includes giving real time and resources
to public-interest legal work around queer rights. It means
championing LGBTQ+ visibility across the profession, not just
with a rainbow logo in June, but with senior queer mentors
at the table all year round. It means training ourselves and
our teams to be better equipped to handle LGBTQ+ matters,
which are often complex and deeply personal. It absolutely
means using our influence to publicly and vocally support
legal protections for LGBTQ+ communities.
Taking on the role at Pride in London was about paying
forward the safety, visibility and possibility that Pride
represented to me when I felt isolated. The legal profession
has come a long way, but it will only be truly inclusive when
people do not feel they have to choose between being
successful and being themselves. Until senior queer lawyers
are commonplace, until inclusion is hardwired into strategy
rather than stuck in the margins, our work is not finished.
Although things are hard, and frankly at times can be deeply
dark, one of the most important lessons I have learned,
especially from the trans community, is to try to lead with
light. We cannot focus only on the bad. The statistics on
hate crime, suicide, and abuse are out there and they are
harrowing, and we must never look away from them. But
they are not the whole story. At the heart of this community,
there has always been strength, joy and love. These are not
soft things. They are radical, resilient, and necessary. They
are what keep us moving forward when the world feels
intent on pulling us back. And we must lean into them. We
must lead with light, even when – especially when – it feels
like the darkness is closing in.
Nik Tait,
Senior Legal Counsel (Legal
Leader: Disputes) at Laing
O’Rourke and Director of
Legal for Pride in London
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AWARDS
On Wednesday 2 July 2025, Modern Law Magazine had the honour
of welcoming the finest minds in the Private Client sector to The Rum
Warehouse, Liverpool, for an unforgettable evening celebrating excellence,
innovation and impact across the industry.
In this special ‘Winners’ edition, we look back on the highlights of the
evening and share our congratulations with all shortlisted nominees, highly
commended individuals, and award-winning firms who made this year’s
Leap Estates Modern Law Private Client Awards so special.
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A Celebration of Excellence in the Private
Client Sector
The Leap Estates Modern Law Private
Client Awards were created to champion
the outstanding achievements of law firms,
individuals, and industry leaders in this everevolving
space. Judged by an expert panel of
sector specialists, the awards spotlight those
making a real difference, whether through
innovation, exemplary client service, or
advancing the profession as a whole.
This annual celebration has become a key fixture
in the legal calendar and an opportunity to
reflect, recognise, and applaud those shaping
the future of private client law. Simply reaching
the shortlist in such a competitive year is a
remarkable feat. The calibre of entries was
outstanding, and the camaraderie among
attendees on the night spoke volumes about the
sense of community and mutual respect that
defines this profession.
This year’s awards recognised exceptional work
across 23 categories, each one highlighting
excellence in practice, creativity in approach,
and a steadfast commitment to delivering
meaningful client outcomes. Whether
recognised for technological innovation,
exemplary client care, or contributions to the
wider profession, every nominee demonstrated
what it means to go above and beyond in their
field.
We extend a huge congratulations to all our
shortlisted entrants, emerging from such a high
volume of nominations is no small achievement
and reflects your place at the pinnacle of the
profession.
A Night to Remember
Guests arrived in style, kicking off the evening
with a champagne reception kindly sponsored
by Estate Search. The buzz of anticipation filled
The Rum Warehouse as legal professionals
and industry peers gathered to celebrate the
sector’s finest.
As the evening formally began, I was delighted
to take to the stage alongside our esteemed
Chair Judge, Caroline Bielanska, to offer a
warm welcome and reflect on the incredible
achievements of the past year. Caroline’s words
paid tribute to the talent, dedication, and drive
of every nominee.
Following a delicious three-course dinner,
with wine generously sponsored by Pro Gen
Research, the spotlight turned to the main
event: the awards ceremony.
Comedian and host Alun Cochrane brought
humour and heart to the stage, expertly guiding
us through the evening’s celebrations. From
Circe Law Ltd being named Law Firm of the
Year (sponsored by Arken Legal) to Ian Bond
receiving the coveted Outstanding Achievement
Award (sponsored by Leap Estates), each award
was presented with admiration and pride.
With 23 awards presented throughout the
night, it was a powerful reminder of the passion,
innovation and skill within the private client
community.
With Thanks
Our deepest gratitude goes to our incredible
judging panel for their time, integrity and
expertise. In particular, we thank Chair Judge
Caroline Bielanska, Solicitor, TEP, Independent
Consultant, Mediator, Author and Trainer, and
Vice Chair Brett Dixon, Deputy Vice President of
The Law Society of England and Wales, for their
leadership and dedication.
A very special thank you must also go to
our headline sponsor, Leap Estates, whose
unwavering support continues to make this
prestigious event possible.
And Finally… The Afterparty!
With the awards concluded, the celebrations
continued well into the night at our vibrant
seaside-themed afterparty. Guests tested their
skills at mini golf, competed at the arcade-style
hammer game (with some fierce competition!),
and even stopped by for a psychic reading.
It was a joyous conclusion to a night filled with
well-deserved recognition and sector-wide
pride.
Congratulations to all of our 2025 winners,
highly commended recipients, and the
incredible shortlist. You are the trailblazers of
the private client world—and we can’t wait to
see what you do next.
Hayley
Hayley Dalton
Editor, Modern Law Magazine
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It’s a great privilege to work with the
wonderful Modern Law team as headline
sponsor for the Private Client Awards.
It gives us all a chance to celebrate the
phenomenal work done by the industry
and we can rely on the team at Modern
Law to make it a hugely entertaining
event. Well done to all those that enter,
were shortlisted and of course to the
winners. We’re already looking forward
to next year.
Craig Matthews, LEAP Estates, Headline
Sponsor
It was a wonderful surprise and I was
deeply touched.
Professor Lesley King, Lifetime
Achievement Award Winner
Winning the Outstanding Achievement
of the Year award was a real honour,
and I felt genuinely privileged to accept
it in a room full of friends, peers, and
people I deeply respect. It was a brilliant
evening celebrating with so many
inspiring professionals. My warmest
congratulations to all the nominees,
highly commended, and winners on the
night, they are all truly magnificent. I’m
hugely grateful to the judges for choosing
me and to Modern Law Magazine for
organising such a memorable occasion.
Ian Bond, Outstanding Achievement
of the Year Winner
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Private Client Team -
Wills & Probate (1-15 Solicitors)
WINNER: Circe Law Ltd
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Digilegal Ltd t/a Make
a Will Online
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Private Client Team - Wills &
Probate (16+ Solicitors)
WINNER: Bell Lamb & Joynson Solicitors
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: Howell-Jones LLP
and Mayo Wynne Baxter
Private Client Team -
Family Law
WINNER: Clarion
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Anthony Gold Solicitors LLP
Private Client Team -
Tax & Trusts
WINNER: Mayo Wynne Baxter
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Clarion
Lawyer of the Year -
Wills & Probate
WINNER: Natalie Payne - Morr & Co LLP
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Sian Lias - Phillips Law
Lawyer of the Year - Family Law
WINNER: Jon Whettingsteel – Dutton Gregory
Solicitors
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Victoria Rylatt - Anthony
Gold Solicitors LLP
Lawyer of the Year - Tax
& Trusts
WINNER: Helen Claydon - HAIG Legal Group Ltd
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Chris Burrows - Glaisyers
ETL
Managing Partner of the Year
WINNER: Helen Forster - HTF Legal Ltd
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: Philip Warford –
Renaissance Legal and Sara Sheppard TEP - SLS
Wills and More Ltd
Law Firm of the Year
WINNER: Circe Law Ltd
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Touch Solicitors Limited
Best Use of Technology
WINNER: Verafi Solutions Ltd
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Courtney Legal
Best Paralegal
WINNER: Katie Martin - Thackray Williams Solicitors
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Claire Larkin Miller - Langton
Genealogy
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Supporting the Industry
(1-25 Employees)
WINNER: Wilkinson & Fox
HIGHLY COMMENDED: MRC Group (Formerly
Medical Record Collation)
Kindly sponsored by
Supporting the Industry
(26+ Employees)
WINNER: inCase
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Anglia Research
Services Ltd
Outstanding Client Care
(1-25 Employees)
WINNER: Circe Law Ltd
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: Pro-Gen
Research Limited and Roche Legal
Outstanding Client Care
(26+ Employees)
WINNER: Bell Lamb & Joynson Solicitors
HIGHLY COMMENDED: Jones Myers Family
Law
Best Workplace Wellbeing
WINNER: Myerson Solicitors
HIGHLY COMMENDED: JP Estate Planning Ltd
Best Innovation
WINNER: Courtney Legal
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: MRC Group
(Formerly Medical Record Collation)
and Capacity Vault
Rising Star of the Year
WINNER: Ellie Hirst - Chadwick Lawrence LLP
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: Paige
Gouldthorpe - Fosters Solicitors and Zara
Taylor - Thomas Flavell & Sons
Business Growth
WINNER: Finders International
JOINT HIGHLY COMMENDED: Estatesearch
and Lucas & Wyllys
National Private Client Team
WINNER: Clarion
National Private Client Lawyer
WINNER: Natalie Payne - Morr & Co LLP
Outstanding Achievement
of the Year
WINNER: Ian Bond
Lifetime Achievement
WINNER: Professor Lesley King
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Behind the Sponsorship:
An Interview with Leap Estates
LEAP Estates proudly partnered with Modern Law to help bring the highly anticipated 2025
Modern Law Private Client Awards to life. As headline sponsor, LEAP Estates played a key role
in spotlighting the exceptional talent, dedication, and innovation within the private client legal
sector.
Following a successful and inspiring evening, Modern Law Editor sat down with Craig Matthews,
Head of Verticals UK at LEAP Estates, to reflect on the awards. In this exclusive interview, Craig
shares why LEAP Estates was so keen to support the event, how their advanced AI-driven tools
are shaping the future of private client law, and why it’s so important to recognise the people
behind this vital area of legal practice.
Q. What led LEAP Estates to become the
headline sponsor for the Modern Law Private
Client Awards?
A. As a business entirely focused on Private
Client work, the opportunity to partner with
Modern Law and celebrate the phenomenal
contributions made in this sector was one we
were never going to pass up.
Q. What positive impact do evenings like the
Modern Law Private Client Awards have on the
legal industry from LEAP’s perspective?
A. Events like this allow us all to recognise
and appreciate the hard work, dedication and
genuine care that so many in the industry put
into their practices day in and day out.
Q. What initially drew LEAP Estates to the
legal industry, and how does the company set
itself apart from competitors?
A. As a division of LEAP Legal Software, we
were established to place sustained focus on
Private Client technology. We remain the only
full-service application that provides solutions
across the entire spectrum of Private Client
matters, including Wills, LPAs, Tax, Trusts, Court
of Protection, Deputyships, Probate, Letters
of Administration and Estate Disputes. With
significant ongoing investment in AI, LEAP
Estates offers practitioners the most advanced
tools currently available.
Q. What significant enhancements has LEAP
Estates made to its products to support Private
Client work?
A. With a single secure matter, full Microsoft 365
integration, advanced Will and LPA drafting,
automated onboarding and comprehensive
estate administration tools, LEAP Estates
enables practitioners to manage their work
efficiently and effectively. Private Client firms
typically face high workloads, along with the
challenge of ensuring every aspect of the
business runs smoothly. Our software brings
together compliance, critical and key dates,
document production, precedent and form
management, and client communication into
one unified solution.
Where LEAP Estates truly excels is in our suite
of AI tools. These include LawY, our AI-powered
legal assistant with answers verified by a panel
of lawyers; Template Generator, which creates
letters from minimal input; Matter AI for indepth
file management; and WillScan, which
extracts data directly from correspondence and
statements. These tools significantly reduce
administrative burdens, allowing practitioners
to focus more on delivering excellent client
service.
Q. How does LEAP Estates help Private Client
lawyers meet rising client expectations around
efficiency and service?
A. The integration of AI has enabled our clients
to stay ahead of the curve and surpass growing
client expectations. Our continued commitment
to this specific area of law allows us to drive
innovation and development, with much more
still to come.
Q. What was your favourite moment or
category of the night?
A. The opportunity to honour
Lesley King for her years of
service was the standout
moment of the evening for
me.
Craig Matthews,
Head of Verticals UK,
Leap Estates
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customer service, our new reports are a game-changer.
Our new reports feature:
Upgraded risk modules
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Conveyancing Under Pressure: Innovation, Compliance
and the Path to a Smoother Property Transaction
In this issue, our Conveyancing Panel — Angela Hesketh, Head of Market Development at PEXA; Rob Gurney,
Managing Director at Ochresoft; and Natalie Summers, Director & Head of Conveyancing at CJCH Solicitors —
explore how service providers are supporting law firms through ongoing market challenges. From innovations
in AI and automation to improving compliance and client communication, they share insights on the evolving
role of technology, the need for systemic change, and how firms can better leverage digital solutions to navigate
delays, staffing pressures, and regulatory demands.
This issue’s opinions are from:
Angela Hesketh
Head of Market Development
at PEXA
Rob Gurney
Managing Director at
Ochresoft
Natalie Summers
Director & Head of
Conveyancing, CJCH Solicitors
Q. How are conveyancing service providers helping law
firms navigate the current pressures in the property
market, such as transaction delays and staff shortages?
Rob Gurney: The short answer to this is – they are not.
And whilst that might sound controversial, it is not meant
as a criticism in any way. Tech is playing a vital and hugely
beneficial role on the conveyancing profession, but the
simple fact remains that transaction times continue to get
longer despite the best efforts of conveyancers and their
service providers. Why is that? Well, entire books could
be written on this topic, but in essence we are witnessing
the culmination of the perfect storm – a declining and
less experienced post-pandemic workforce, an unrelenting
level of scope-creep continually piling the pressure and
additional responsibilities onto the conveyancer, and the
ever-widening gap between modern consumer expectations
(“click-and-buy”) and the reality of the current conveyancing
process. If tech wasn’t assisting with some of these issues
(client identity, SOF/SOW checks etc) the profession would
be in even greater difficulty right now. What is needed is
a fundamental change to the current property transaction
process (and its widespread adoption). Conveyancing
technology alone cannot fix the broken process, which is
why we are working with industry colleagues to develop
implementable solutions that will foster long-term change.
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Q. What innovations or technologies are you introducing
to improve speed, accuracy, and transparency in the
conveyancing process?
Rob: As part of Landmark Information Group, Ochresoft
is very well known for its industry-leading workflow
and case management software (Intelliworks), which
greatly assists lawyers in progressing matters efficiently
but also consistently and compliantly. Utilising bespoke
and detailed workflow in conveyancing matters is vital
to keeping transactions moving forward whilst ensuring
factors such as accuracy and comprehensiveness are
maintained. Take this away, and the process becomes
lengthier and riskier – not the best combination for busy
practitioners.
Considering my comments in the previous response
however, it is clear that more can be done to address
the issues of speed, accuracy and transparency in the
conveyancing process. This is why Landmark will shortly
be launching a brand new assistance tool to the market,
which will dramatically assist in reducing down the time
it takes to get property transactions from instruction to
exchange and completion. It’s called Contract Pack Vault.
It has been designed purely to eradicate all unnecessary
additional enquiries from the conveyancing process,
thus avoiding the associated delays, chasing and stress
that otherwise often ensues. Our research has shown
that the average time it takes for the additional enquiries
process to be completed is 52 days – exactly double
what it took in 2007 incidentally. Contract Pack Vault
determines exactly what documents, and information will
be needed by the buyer’s lawyer and uses AI to analyse
each document to ensure accuracy and completeness.
So, for example, if a lease has a page missing, this will be
flagged before sending the contract pack, thus avoiding
the certain additional enquiry that would be raised if
left unchecked. At the time of writing, we are our early
adopter customer trial phase, pending a full release later
this year. Feedback so far has been overwhelmingly
positive.
And we are not stopping there – we also know that there
are big processing efficiencies to be liberated from the
purchaser side of conveyancing too and we are very
excited to be developing cutting-edge innovations in this
area too, which will follow on shortly from Contract Pack
Vault.
Angela Hesketh: At PEXA, we’re focused on improving
the property completion process. Our digital remortgage
platform, already live in the UK, has shown what’s
possible with real-time collaboration between lenders
and conveyancers, funds disbursement, and automated
lodgement at HM Land Registry. This cuts out rework
and delays that so often plague transactions today. As
we prepare for market launch of in September, we’re
introducing to the market:
Early validation of title to ensure successful lodgement on
completion
A single, integrated digital workspace for lenders and
conveyancers that combines completion and lodgement.
Automated, secure funds disbursement that reduces risk
and manual intervention.
Enhanced API connectivity so firms can access PEXA’s
functionality within their existing case management
systems.
Alignment with the Property Data Trust Framework
(PDTF) to support secure data exchange.
Our focus is on providing certainty, security, and
confidence for conveyancers and lenders, so they can
better support their consumer clients.
Q. With increasing regulatory scrutiny, how are your
services supporting firms in maintaining compliance
without compromising efficiency?
Angela: There’s no doubt that regulatory requirements
are intensifying particularly around the protection of client
money, cybersecurity, and transparency. We’ve designed
our platform to help firms meet these obligations as part
of their day-to-day work, not as an extra burden.
For example:
Our digital audit trail records every action on a
transaction, supporting accountability and transparency.
The platform facilitates secure, automated payments
reducing exposure to client account risks and cybercrime.
We look to engage with regulators and professional
bodies to ensure our solutions support compliance with
sector expectations, including CLC, SRA, CRL and Law
Society.
Importantly, we are looking to achieve this without
slowing firms down in fact, we see compliance and
efficiency as going hand in hand through digitisation.
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Q. How do you see the role of conveyancing service
providers evolving in the next 12 months, especially in
the context of digital transformation and AI adoption?
Angela: I think we’re reaching a tipping point. Over the
next 12 months, conveyancing service providers will
increasingly move away from purely transactional roles
and instead act as data stewards and client experience
leaders.
Digital platforms like PEXA combined with emerging
AI tools will handle more of the routine process work:
disbursements, document lodgement, progress
tracking. That will free up conveyancers to focus on their
professional judgement, risk management, and client
communication.
We also expect to see firms engaging more with
structured data initiatives like the Property Data Trust
Framework following the passing of the Data (Use and
Access) Act 2025, helping to build a foundation for
secure data exchange and future innovation. The shift
will be about combining technology, data, and human
expertise to create a more resilient, transparent, and
customer-focused property market.
Q. What do law firms need to do to better leverage the
full potential of the services and support offered?
Natalie Summers: Market-leading software has
undoubtedly improved and streamlined conveyancing
processes. When new systems and processes are
properly implemented and embraced, they can deliver
significant growth and profitability for a department.
The customer experience must always be at the forefront
of our minds when acting in a transaction. We focus on
explaining the process in layman’s terms and strive to
keep the client fully informed throughout. This begins
with sending a ‘Guide to Buying and Selling Your Home’
alongside our initial paperwork and continues with regular
updates by email and text throughout the transaction.
Clients also have access to a dedicated portal where they
can track progress 24/7. Digital client onboarding has
significantly reduced transaction timeframes, as clients
can complete this step via our personalised app.
We are working closely with Open Moove, who, like
many others, believe the system can be improved. They
have developed an app that connects the entire moving
team — agent, conveyancer, broker, and client — in one
place. The result is more transparency, accountability,
and support from start to finish. Collaboration to achieve
the best outcome for the client must be a priority, rather
than finger-pointing. With everyone connected in one
space, updates are shared instantly. For example, if there
is a legal title defect, all parties know what it is and what
steps are needed to resolve it. While many wish to see
transactions progress quickly, it is the conveyancer’s
responsibility to ensure everything is compliant for both
client and lender. If an issue arises, we must resolve it
properly — not to delay the matter, but to protect the
client. Most people are understanding, provided they are
kept informed. The greatest weakness in any transaction
is poor communication, and Open Moove aims to
eliminate this.
Some delays could be avoided if there were not staff
shortages at the Land Registry or within local authorities.
In some areas, a local search can be returned in three
days; in others, it may take three weeks or even longer.
Law firms can better demonstrate their expertise,
especially across multiple disciplines. Again, with the
client at the centre, it is important to remind them —
following a property transaction — to consider updating
or preparing a Will, and to explain the reasons why. Is a
cohabitation agreement or declaration of trust needed?
Should a private legal charge be created to protect money
contributed by family members?
Lawyers are held accountable for carrying out anti-money
laundering (AML) checks, which we do for good reason,
though these often require detective work. Clients are
sometimes reluctant to provide full information, so it
would be helpful if banks or brokers explained at the
outset why this is necessary. Banks have immediate
access to, and oversight of, the funds and their origins,
yet it often falls to the conveyancer to trace the source
of funds and report any concerns. If banks conducted
this due diligence — given that they hold the funds — it
would be a significant help.
In the UK, the average time from property listing
to completion is 205 days. That’s seven months of
uncertainty for the client.
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Raising the Bar:
What’s Next for Award-Winning
Conveyancing Teams?
After a year of standout achievements, these top conveyancers
aren’t resting on their laurels. From ambitious growth plans to
tech innovations and a renewed focus on training, we caught up
with some of the industry’s best to hear their goals for the year
ahead – and how they plan to keep exceeding expectations.
Laura Cartwright,
Head of Conveyancing
Department, Bell Lamb & Joynson
Solicitors
Janine Wellington,
Managing Director
of Convey Law
Richard Querel,
Partner,
Russell & Russell Solicitors
Elaine Seamark,
Partner (non-lawyer) at Swiitch,
the new conveyancing brand from
Shoosmiths
Angelo Piccirillo,
co-founder and partner,
AVRillo
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Q. What makes your conveyancing team sparkle? What sets your
team apart in terms of service, efficiency, or innovation?
Laura Cartwright
Our team’s unwavering commitment to client care is what truly sets us
apart. This is reflected in our outstanding client reviews – we’re
ranked in the top three locally on Review Solicitors for three of our
offices, and number one in Maghull and Ashton-in-Makerfield. We
were also proud winners of the ‘Conveyancing Excellence Award’ at
the British Conveyancing Awards 2025, an inaugural award given to
the firm deemed ‘the cream of the crop’. Innovation plays a key role
too: our easy-to-use app allows clients to track their case and ask
questions, while our video guides help break down each stage of the
process.
Janine Wellington
We work in small, close-knit cohorts that foster collaboration,
mentorship, and shared success. This structure allows us to deliver
consistent, high-quality service while empowering everyone to thrive.
Our Kaizen commitment to continuous improvement drives
everything that we do. We’re constantly refining our systems,
embracing new technologies, and streamlining processes. Innovation
is in our DNA.
Rooted in our core values (Belonging, Service, Giving, and Tribe),
we’ve built a culture that balances performance with purpose. We’re
not just conveyancers; we’re a passionate, values-driven community
redefining what great service means in today’s property industry –
delivering revolutionary conveyancing.
Richard Querel: The conveyancing team here in Chester sparkle
because of the support and encouragement they receive from senior
management. We pride ourselves on our personalised service. This
experience starts with our exceptional New Business team, who take
the time to listen to our clients’ needs at the outset. Then comes our
client portal, carefully curated to ensure ease and accuracy for our
clients. Once onboarded, our conveyancing team continue the quality
service and communication. Clients can even get hold of us 24/7 on
our dedicated helpline, which is answered by myself as Head of
Conveyancing.
Elaine Seamark
It’s not just one thing – it’s the blend of experience, teamwork, and
genuine passion for what we do.
Many team members have been with us for years, bringing
knowledge and calm confidence. We also nurture talent, creating a
supportive and loyal environment.
Our team spirit is key. We’re honest, always ready to share
knowledge and help each other. It’s a place where everyone learns
continuously, fostering a positive vibe that clients notice.
In short, excellent service is our priority, and our 5* Trustpilot rating
proves it!
Angelo Piccirillo
We believe structure is undervalued in our sector – but it’s the
foundation for calm, consistent work. Our lawyers don’t spend their
days firefighting. Instead, they follow a structured daily rhythm: fixed
client appointment slots, defined update protocols, and capped
caseloads.
That gives our people space to think, support their clients, and
collaborate with their teams. It’s part of what drives our high success
rate – well above national averages.
Q. This past year has brought significant pressure, particularly with
stamp duty deadlines and a busy property market, how has your team
risen to the challenge?
Laura
Organisation, teamwork, and pure determination have been at the
heart of our response. We began planning for the stamp duty
deadline well in advance, keeping both our team and our introducers
informed and supported. Dedicated holiday cover roles helped us
manage capacity, and even team members on maternity leave
contributed, which we think is a real testament to our culture. The
pressure brought us closer together, and once the rush had passed,
we celebrated with a team day out to show our appreciation.
Recognising hard work is just as important as delivering it.
Janine
The challenges of the past year demanded resilience, and our team
rose to meet them with focus and adaptability. Hybrid working gave
our team the flexibility they needed.
Clear communication, structured support, and frequent recognition
helped maintain morale. Monthly and quarterly bonus schemes
rewarded dedication, while weekly CPD Thursdays and one-to-one
check-ins kept our skills sharp and our teams connected. Despite
external pressures, our standards never slipped – client satisfaction
remained our North Star.
Richard
One advantage of the stamp duty deadline this time around was that
law firms had been here before and were thus better prepared. Our
team managed our clients’ expectations extremely well, including
those who required and achieved a completion date before the
deadline and, in particular, those matters which had an unrealistic
prospect of achieving that deadline.
Elaine
The past year really put us to the test, especially with the stamp duty
deadlines and a busy property market. But I have to say, I’ve never
been prouder of my team. In March, they broke all our previous
records for completions in a single month and did it all with
remarkable professionalism and resilience.
Despite the pressure, the office remained calm and organised. I kept
offering my support, expecting to be needed, but everyone was busy
yet in control.
Many of our team members have worked together for years, and that
experience really showed. They handled the high-pressure situations
with ease, and their quiet confidence filtered down to the more junior
members of the team. We learned from the pressure experienced
during the pandemic that being organised is essential for success.
Keeping clients updated is also crucial to avoid any last-minute
disappointment.
Angelo
We leaned into the values we’ve built over decades: protect our
people, plan ahead, and innovate with purpose.
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We’ve invested in AI and automation to reduce admin pressure. We
kept hiring – carefully – to support growing demand. And we made
sure our lawyers had time for training and development, not just
transactional output.
We’ve seen too many good firms disappear. We believe the
responsibility to adapt – and share how – sits with all of us.
Q. What’s the secret behind your team’s ability to work so well
together under pressure? Are there specific structures, values, or
habits that help you thrive?
Laura
The secret is our culture of shared responsibility and genuine care for
one another. Everyone in the team knows they can speak up if they’re
struggling; there’s no stigma, only support. Strong relationships, daily
communication through our team chat, and bi-weekly check-ins mean
no one feels alone when things get busy. People step in without being
asked and instinctively offer help. We hold ‘Connect Days’ up to three
times a year, where the team get together, and we have an annual
summer party for staff to unwind. But it’s the everyday habits like
transparency, teamwork, and trust that keep us thriving under
pressure. No one is expected to carry more than their share, and that
balance makes all the difference.
Janine
Our cohort model supports strong team bonds and clear
communication. Everyone is encouraged to learn, share, and grow.
Happy Days and quarterly Convey Days bring everyone together for
training, wellbeing, parties, and fun, helping us stay connected, even
with a hybrid work environment.
Holiday cover and a great team support structure are vital.
Richard
We work well under pressure because of the systems we have in
place, including clear lines of communication within the team and an
open-door policy so there is always help on hand. If a query is
particularly technical, then we have our tech team to offer guidance.
We implement a “buddy system” whereby each individual team is
partnered with another so that, in the event of holiday or absence
cover, we can ensure continuity for our clients.
Elaine
It’s all about our open and supportive culture. We’re big on honesty
– asking for help is encouraged, and stepping in to assist a colleague is
second nature.
Our “superhero” support conveyancers are always ready to jump in
when workloads spike. Plus, our hybrid work policy offers the perfect
mix of flexibility and collaboration. We also embrace continuous
learning, treating mistakes as opportunities to grow.
Together, these habits create a resilient and high-functioning team that
doesn’t just survive under pressure – we thrive.
Angelo
Our systems protect our people – but our culture makes it work. Every
lawyer has a buddy, a mentor, and regular one-to-ones. No one is left
alone to struggle.
Our mindset is simple: pressure is inevitable, but burnout is not. You
can be excellent without being exhausted.
Q. How would you describe the culture within your conveyancing
team, and how does it encourage both hard work and genuine support
for one another?
Laura
The culture within our team is second to none. Everyone genuinely
cares about each other, and that support creates a natural drive to
work hard – not just for yourself, but for your colleagues. On tough
days, it’s the team spirit that keeps people going. We don’t believe in
hierarchies; there are no private offices, so everyone, management
included, works side by side. This openness creates a real sense of
equality and approachability, which fosters collaboration and
motivation across the board.
Janine
Our culture is built on care, collaboration, and celebration. We treat
each other like a family tribe, respecting boundaries and encouraging
balance. Hard work is recognised through awards, bonus schemes,
and long-service celebrations. We enjoy working together, and that
energy translates into high performance and mutual support.
We are the UK’s leading charity fundraising legal practice, with our
team and clients raising over £1.2 million for charity. Giving is
ingrained in our culture.
Richard
In Chester, the ethos of our conveyancing department is getting the
job done in a timely manner. If that means the Head of Conveyancing
needs to send out an estimate of fees and onboard a client, then that’s
what I will do. Everyone chips in where necessary, as we all have the
same goals in mind. The important factor here is that each
conveyancing team does not have individual cost targets; this
encourages a wider team culture.
Elaine
Our conveyancing team culture is all about openness, inclusivity, and
genuine connection. We value being ourselves, which encourages
collaboration and mutual support. There’s no rigid hierarchy, so
people feel comfortable sharing ideas and helping each other.
We’re proud of our diverse team, recruiting from all backgrounds. It
feels like a family because everyone is genuinely connected and ready
to assist one another.
Structures like monthly meetings, buddy systems for new starters, and
regular check-ins help reinforce this supportive culture. It’s all about
valuing individuals, encouraging growth, and building strong bonds,
making our team not just effective but exceptional.
Angelo
We’re a family-run firm, but we’ve built a culture judged by an
independent body as having the highest staff engagement and
cultural rating in the UK – not just in conveyancing, but across sectors.
We promote leadership from within and train our lawyers not only in
legal skills, but also in communication, empathy, and wellbeing. We
reward consistency – not long hours – and support people to grow.
We also operate with transparency. We share our goals and financials
openly. People feel heard and part of something.
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Q. In your experience, how has technology enhanced your
conveyancing service? Are there any digital tools or platforms that
have made a particular difference to your team’s effectiveness and
client satisfaction?
Laura
Technology has become a game-changer for us. Our mobile app and
case tracker have dramatically improved transparency and efficiency,
allowing clients to check updates at their convenience. Video guides
have been another powerful tool – they demystify the process and
reduce the need for repetitive explanations. Internally, our systems
streamline workflow, helping the team stay organised even at peak
times. These innovations not only improve client satisfaction but also
empower our team to work smarter, not harder.
Janine
Our investment in bespoke technology has transformed how we
work. Automated client onboarding, digital ID checks, and integrated
workflows have increased efficiency. Our award-winning client app
offers real-time updates, secure messaging, and document access.
Behind the scenes, our tech simplifies tasks, enabling our lawyers to
focus on clients, not admin. It’s a win for efficiency and satisfaction.
Richard
Our client portal is an invaluable tool. It enables our clients to be kept
fully informed throughout their transaction, and all documents and
information can be shared securely. This has increased the number of
completions per fee earner, allowing us to grow as a department and
ensure we have happy clients.
Elaine
Technology has transformed our efficiency and client service. Our
case management system keeps everything streamlined, allowing us
to track progress and share updates easily. Clients appreciate being
able to access their case info and documents online – it reduces phone
calls and improves transparency.
Digital ID verification and e-signatures have sped up onboarding,
while our internal collaboration tools keep the team connected, even
when working remotely.
Overall, technology helps us work smarter, maintain high service
standards, and free up time for personal client support – the human
touch remains key.
Angelo
Tech is only useful if it works for people. That’s why we build our tools
in-house. We’ve developed automated systems that flag potential
issues early, guide lawyers step by step, and keep clients informed in
real-time.
We’ve also implemented AI for admin tasks like document generation
and checking, freeing up lawyers for higher-value work. It’s not about
replacing people – it’s about empowering them.
Q. Looking ahead, what trends or developments do you anticipate
shaping the future of conveyancing, and how is your team preparing
to stay ahead of the curve?
Laura
The future of conveyancing will be shaped by continued digital
innovation and increased client expectations for speed and
transparency. We’re investing in both technology and training to stay
ahead. Our team is already trialling new tools like automated
document generation and e-signatures to streamline processes
further. We’re also focusing on sustainability – reducing paper use and
embracing remote communication – which aligns with modern client
values and environmental goals. The key is adaptability; we encourage
a culture of learning and evolution so that we’re always ready for
what’s next.
Janine
We expect further digitisation of the conveyancing process, including
more widespread adoption of blockchain and digital property data.
To prepare, we’re investing in training, agile systems, and partnerships
that support innovation. Our commitment to continuous improvement
keeps us ready for change.
We’re also exploring how AI can assist with routine tasks, freeing our
team to focus on personalised service and complex legal work. The
future is tech-enabled but human-led.
Richard
Remote working and the need for greater online interaction with
clients are here to stay. We are looking at ways to improve the
customer experience, especially in the world of communication.
Clients want to be able to contact us in different ways – by telephone,
email, or via the portal – and we want to ensure that we have the right
tools to meet their expectations.
Elaine
The conveyancing landscape is evolving fast, with technology and
client expectations driving change.
Clients increasingly want faster, more transparent services. To stay
ahead, we’re investing in digital solutions and automation to
streamline processes.
We’re also preparing for changes in property law and regulation,
keeping our team trained and adaptable.
Flexibility and client focus remain our priorities. We’re building a
future-proof team – tech-savvy, agile, and committed to delivering
top-tier service in an ever-changing market.
Angelo
AI, automation, and open data will redefine conveyancing – but only if
we balance tech with empathy.
We’re investing in predictive analytics to anticipate issues before they
arise. We’re lobbying for industry-wide reform to simplify processes.
Above all, we’re preparing our people – through training and support
– to lead with confidence in a digital world. The firms that thrive won’t
just use new tools – they’ll build new ways of working.
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Wills & Probate Focus: Empowering
Private Client Practitioners in a
Changing Legal Landscape
With increasing complexity in wills and probate
work, Marie Harrison-Stradling, Workflow Team
Manager at Ochresoft, explains how Intelliworks
supports law firms in managing risk, ensuring
compliance, and future-proofing their private client
services.
Q. What are the main challenges your services help firms
overcome in managing wills and probate cases efficiently?
A. Private client practitioners have a wide range of risks and
challenges to navigate when conducting Probate, Wills and LPA
matters, which I would suggest are potentially more varied in their
nature and numerous, than many other areas of legal practice. It is
likely that Practitioners will be dealing with a combination of these
instructions, at any one point in time, requiring them to continually
monitor and balance priorities and deadlines. Intelliworks private
client products allow Practitioners to be supported from the moment
they receive new client instructions, to closing and archiving the file.
Intelliworks accompanies and guides the practitioner throughout the
instruction. Reducing administrative tasks by intelligently capturing
and utilising data required for Form population and Estate Accounts.
Providing fully drafted letters and documents, dynamically selected
based on the task at hand, from a fully integrated, maintained,
extensive legal library. Highlighting and managing risks, based
on specific matter type and consequently providing actions and
documents to address and mitigate each risk.
Intelliworks products offer a range of tools and functionality, which
are designed and maintained by legal professionals with practical
experience and knowledge of the sector. This enables Intelliworks
to work in synchronicity with Practitioners, to aid them in working
as efficiently as possible, whilst understanding their needs and
environment.
Q. What role do you see your services playing in improving
client communication and transparency throughout the
probate process?
A. We continually strive to consider the clients perspective and needs
by monitoring developments across the legal sector and beyond. This
may take the form of new regulatory requirements, best practice or
social economic developments - all of which could impact upon the
way in which Practitioners need to communicate and interact with
their clients and in turn, the support and tools which we need to make
available to Practitioners within our products to achieve this.
Our focus on future developments, whilst actively seeking discussion
and opinion from the profession, allows us to pro-actively and
dynamically integrate and add new resources and features to our
products as they are needed. Our role is therefore as an enabler to the
probate profession, to facilitate the enrichment and diversification
of client communications by providing practitioners with accessible,
maintained and comprehensive workflows which adapt and grow with
the profession.
Q. How do you support firms in ensuring compliance with the
latest legal and regulatory requirements in wills and probate?
A. We continually monitor for the development and release of new
legal and regulatory requirements within the profession. We also
actively seek opinion and discussion from within the sector, to help us
form a picture of how the changes may be received by practitioners
and their clients, so that we can best understand how to support
them. We then consider in detail what resources, tools and updates
our customers will require and are able to add and integrate these into
our products. Following this our product structure allows us to deliver
updates direct to our customers seamlessly and without disruption.
Our journey does not stop there though, we are aware, that the
parameters of new legislation and regulation is often tested and
clarified through its application and ultimately, litigation, therefore we
also consider relevant case law and trends.
Q. Looking ahead, what trends or developments do you
anticipate will most impact the wills and probate sector over
the next year?
A. Most recently, my attention has been drawn to The Law
Commission’s recommendations, outlined within their report
‘Modernising Wills Law’ and the accompanying draft Bill, the purpose
of which is to address ensuring that the law governing Wills is fit for
purpose in the modern age. This is a significant task considering that
the legislation primarily governing this activity dates back to 1837.
A number of recommendations have been made following the
consultations and range widely from abolishing the rule that a
marriage or civil partnership will revoke a Will, to reducing the
minimum age of eligibility to make a will from 18 to 16.
The Law Commission have also encountered that over the years
in which their consultations have taken place, opinions have
changed regarding several of the proposed reforms. The public have
experienced a global pandemic, fluctuating economic climate and
social and technological advances, which for some, have increased
their vulnerability in new ways. This has un-surprisingly resulted in a
paradigm shift for some, which has been noted.
If a new Wills Act is implemented, encompassing all, or a proportion
of The Law Commission’s recommendations, this is certain to
considerably impact upon both private client professionals and the lay
consumer, as the new rules are navigated, tested and
(likely) litigated.
We will be closely monitoring developments
in this area and will be updating and
enhancing our private client workflow
suite, to support our customers through
any future changes.
Marie Harrison-Stradling,
Workflow Team Manager, Ochresoft
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Simplifying Bereavement Support:
Compassionate Innovation in the
Private Client Sector
The Estate Registry is redefining support in the private client and bereavement
space through a unique blend of empathy, innovation and collaboration. SVP of
Global Partnerships, Phil Hickson, shares how the team supports professionals
and families alike during some of life’s most difficult moments.
Q. What makes your business stand out in the
private client sector?
A. Given our work in the bereavement sector, we
understand the importance of delivering exceptional
customer service underpinned by high levels of
empathy and compassion. Our team is fully trained to
reduce stress for Notifiers, Personal Representatives,
Beneficiaries and Estates.
As one client recently commented: “Clear, compassionate
dialogue… treated with maximum respect.” We are unique
in offering a suite of solutions – from streamlining death
notification with NotifyNOW to providing estate funding
options through InheritNOW, with further developments
on the horizon.
Q. How have you supported private client
professionals during recent high-pressure periods?
A. InheritNOW supports both lay and professional
Personal Representatives by unlocking the estate,
enabling payment of Inheritance Tax to HMRC.
This allows the Grant of Probate to be issued, assets
to be sold, and inheritances distributed. Without
this intervention, many estates would remain in
limbo, leaving Beneficiaries waiting indefinitely and
professionals unable to progress matters efficiently.
We also offer Beneficiaries early access to their
inheritance to cover key life expenses, such as
home purchases, school fees or essential purchases.
NotifyNOW helps further by offering a secure, one-stop
platform for notifying multiple service providers of a
death – speeding up estate administration and relieving
the pressure on legal professionals often inundated with
update requests.
Q. Culture is key in service delivery — what values or
practices define your internal team culture?
A. We prioritise support, empathy and compassion both
externally and internally. We partner with Samaritans
to deliver an in-depth induction and ongoing training
programme, ensuring these values are embedded in our
service delivery. Our client-focused team is committed to
achieving exceptional outcomes.
Q. In what ways do you collaborate with law firms
to deliver better outcomes for clients?
A. We work in close consultation with law firms to
understand their unique challenges and deliver clear,
effective solutions. We regularly meet with in-house
teams to introduce our services and share case studies,
which help bring our products to life. Many of our
services have developed in direct response to the needs
and feedback of our legal partners.
Q. What lessons have you learned from the past
year, and how are they shaping your direction going
forward?
A. The pace of change in this sector demands constant
evolution. Recent changes to Inheritance Tax and the
growing complexity of estate administration highlight
the importance of staying fully engaged. By simplifying
processes and offering financial support where needed,
we continue to reduce the burden for all involved during
what is often a deeply difficult and emotional time.
Phil Hickson,
SVP, Global Partnerships,
The Estate Registry
Q. How does your team stay ahead of evolving
needs in the private client space? What role does
innovation play in your service offering?
A. We are always looking to evolve. We avoid a rigid,
‘computer says no’ approach by working closely with
private client professionals to explore all viable options.
Our next innovation – LegacyNOW – will offer an earlier
intervention point in the probate process, and is set to
launch in the UK soon.
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LEGAL
TECH TALK
Merlin Beyts,
Content Director at LegalTechTalk
The legal profession has long prided itself on upholding
justice, equality, and fairness for all. Yet for far too long,
these principles have not been fully extended to LGBTQIA+
professionals within our own ranks. As we navigate an
increasingly complex landscape of rights, representation,
and recognition, it has never been more crucial to examine
where we stand and where we must go.
This collection of interviews reveals both the remarkable
progress we have made and the significant challenges that
remain. When InterLaw was founded 18 years ago, the legal
sector ranked second from bottom in the UK for LGBTQIA+
inclusion, with only three law firms out of over a thousand
having LGBTQIA+ networks. Today, we have witnessed a
transformation that saw the legal sector rise to number
one, with 17 law firms reaching the top 100 employers and
widespread adoption of networks and ally programmes.
Yet beneath these encouraging statistics lies a more troubling
reality. As Daniel Winterfeldt’s insights reveal, whilst we have
successfully created visibility and established networks,
we have struggled to translate this into meaningful career
progression and retention. The data is stark: LGBTQIA+
professionals show some of the highest attrition rates
amongst all protected characteristics monitored by the SRA,
and representation at senior partnership levels has barely
improved in the past five years. Perhaps most concerning is
the revelation that gay and bisexual men earn 50% less than
their straight counterparts in the top 10% of earners.
The voices in these interviews also highlight the particular
challenges faced by those with intersecting identities. Oscar
Davies’s experience as the UK’s first publicly acknowledged
non-binary barrister illuminates the additional burden of
explanation and education that falls on those who step
outside traditional binaries. Their observation that
“being non-binary is a minor part of my identity, but the
legal profession treats it as this huge thing” speaks to
a profession still grappling with difference rather than
embracing it.
The current climate adds urgency to these discussions.
As Victoria McCloud’s sobering assessment makes clear,
we are witnessing a concerning reversal of progress,
particularly for transgender individuals. Her description of
the UK as being “in the worst position of any of the major
democracies” for trans rights serves as a stark reminder
that progress is neither linear nor guaranteed. The legal
profession cannot remain insulated from these broader
societal shifts, nor should it wish to.
What emerges from these conversations is not despair, but
a call to action rooted in both pragmatism and hope. The
legal profession’s attachment to tradition and hierarchy,
whilst sometimes an obstacle to change, also provides a
framework for meaningful reform when properly directed.
As Davies notes, “every time someone sees me in court
and I’m addressed as Mx Davies, it chips away at the idea
that you have to fit into a binary to belong.”
The path forward requires more than rainbow flags and
Pride marches, though these symbols matter. It demands
a fundamental examination of our talent cycles, pay
structures, and promotional pathways. It requires moving
beyond performative allyship to genuine structural
change that addresses the barriers preventing LGBTQIA+
professionals from reaching their full potential.
Most importantly, it requires recognising that diversity of
experience strengthens our profession. As Davies observes,
the qualities that make someone different often make
them a better lawyer: empathy, resilience, and creativity
born from navigating a world not designed for them. Our
clients, who come from increasingly diverse backgrounds,
deserve legal representation that reflects and understands
their experiences.
The interviews that follow offer both cautionary tales
and reasons for optimism. They remind us that whilst we
have come far from the days when LGBTQIA+ lawyers
felt compelled to hide their authentic selves, we still
have considerable work to do. The legal profession’s
commitment to justice demands nothing less than ensuring
that commitment extends fully to all who serve within it.
Progress may be incremental, but it is also inevitable when
driven by courage, authenticity, and sustained effort. The
voices in this collection point the way forward.
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LEGAL
TECH TALK
Interview with
Oscar Davies,
Barrister, Garden Court Chambers
Oscar Davies, Barrister at Garden Court Chambers, made history
as the first publicly acknowledged non-binary barrister in the
UK. In this candid interview, they discuss the challenges and
opportunities facing LGBTQIA+ professionals in the legal sector.
Q. You’re recognised as the first publicly acknowledged nonbinary
barrister in the UK. Do you find that there are still any
stigmas associated with that identity, particularly when it comes
to the legal profession?
A. Absolutely. People still don’t really understand what non-binary
is, and when people don’t understand something, they can default
to discomfort and even hostility. The legal profession can be very
attached to tradition, hierarchy, and frankly binaries: male or
female, winner or loser. Stepping outside of that can make people
quite defensive and skeptical, and even treat you as a curiosity.
There can be an unspoken expectation to fit into a very narrow
mould of what a barrister looks like or sounds like. Being visibly
queer or non-binary can feel like a breach of the social contract.
What I’ve learned about those reactions is that they say something
about them rather than about me. Every time someone sees
me in court and I’m addressed as Mx Davies, the gender neutral
honorific, it chips away at the idea that you have to fit into a binary
to belong.
The legal profession can still find it hard to conceptualise
something where its own law doesn’t necessarily recognise it. But
one of the strongest arguments for non-binary identity is that at
least 15 other countries internationally recognise non-binary as
an identity which deserves protection under equality law. It’s not
exactly new; it’s just that our country hasn’t formally recognised it
yet in its legislation.
Q. How would you describe the legal sector’s ability to foster
inclusive environments for queer people?
A. There’s an interesting term called “burdening”: a particular
stressor for non-binary people and potentially other queer
identities too. The person is burdened to explain themselves all the
time. Because few people understand non-binary identity, they ask
for summaries and explanations. It really depends whether people
are asking in good faith and if I’m in the mood to explain it at that
moment.
I wonder whether we can do more to not ‘other’ queer people
in the legal profession so that it’s seen as normal to state your
pronouns rather than making me feel awkward because I have to
say I’m a “they.” Lawyers, who use language all the time, should
have heightened awareness of the implications of language:
both literal meanings and hidden implications. Honestly, the legal
profession is quite lazy in that regard.
Sometimes the rainbow flag can feel like lip service to actual
solidarity with queer people. There’s often a lack of understanding
about what their actual experience is like. Many feel they have to
hide themselves. I didn’t come out as non-binary until after I got
tenancy because I was too scared. Now I don’t really care, but I
don’t want it to be the only reason people know me—I care about
justice and human rights. Non-binary is only a tiny part of my
identity.
There’s a question about bringing your full self to work. If you
can’t be yourself at work, ask why. Is it because you’re not
confident, or because your firm doesn’t allow openness? For
me, I know I’ll always have work because I’m authentic. I put out
useful information and clients come to me because I’m as full and
authentic as I can be.
The more people who are visible, the less weird visible people
become. I’d like to get to a point where in 20 years, me being nonbinary
in the legal profession is boring old news. It’s funny because
being non-binary is a minor part of my identity, but the legal
profession treats it as this huge thing.
There must be a base level of tolerance, dignity, and respect. Sixty
per cent of my work involves employment disputes, so it comes to
me when things go wrong. That bantering older colleague making
jokes about someone’s sexuality could constitute harassment or
direct discrimination. There has to be a social contract of treating
each other with dignity.
Q. For up-and-coming lawyers who may be part of the
LGBTQIA+ community, what advice would you give them?
A. First and foremost, you belong here. You don’t have to change
who you are to deserve your place in the legal industry. But be
strategic. I didn’t come out as non-binary until after securing
tenancy; as a matter of safety and strategy during a chaotic period
when my chambers dissolved and I needed emergency pupillage.
Your clients come from diverse backgrounds and many will be
queer. If they know their lawyer is queer, they can identify more
easily. Being part of any minority helps you empathise with clients
from other minorities, whether racial, disabled, or otherwise.
The qualities that make you different can make you a better
lawyer. Empathy, resilience, creativity: half of what I do is thinking
creatively about solutions. I can do this because I’ve had to be
resilient and find solutions others didn’t consider.
Find your people in the legal space. Mentors, colleagues, allies will
have your back. Don’t feel obligated to educate everyone about
your identity constantly; only when you have the emotional energy.
Set boundaries.
Being visible makes life easier for the next person. It’s not for
everyone, but that’s how culture change happens: one person
at a time. If me being publicly visible helps even one person,
that’s a great result. More
people are understanding
that professional
communication style
is informed by private
experiences, challenging
the historical separation
of private and public in
our profession.
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TECH TALK
Interview with
Victoria McCloud,
Consultant, W Legal
Q. As the UK’s first transgender judge, you’ve broken
significant ground in judicial representation. How has
your unique perspective influenced your approach to the
bench, and what impact do you hope your visibility has
on both the legal profession and the broader transgender
community?
A. I think being a part of a minority like the broad trans one,
has made me more aware of how minorities are treated as
passive recipients of acts by majorities: we are talked about,
we have things ‘done to us’ or even ’done for us’ and others
make judgments based on no knowledge. Ive been very
aware of the assumptions people make about ‘being normal’
and how little understanding there is in the judiciary of
what affects minorities. Year after year we see a cycle of socalled
’not good enough’ results in diversity surveys (which
ignore trans judges altogether!) followed by a committee
backslapping for having tried some rather minor initiative,
and it seems that ‘being busy’ on equality and diversity is
almost a substitute for doing anything effective, year after
year.
Q. How has your experience as a transgender woman
affected courtroom dynamics—both in terms of how legal
professionals interact with you and how you’ve had to
establish your judicial authority? Have you noticed any
evolution in these dynamics over time?
A. In court I never sensed that it made any difference - after
all I had been at the bar for a long time since my transition
already so was reasonably well known. I enjoyed being a
judge and I think it showed, so that people were at ease.
In terms of the public and some rather odd people in the
Gender Critical Ideology Movement however there was
much online and public and press hostility as part of their
planned campaign to make ‘respectable’ trans people
invisible whilst promoting false narratives whereby people
like rapists were labelled as trans so as to ‘monster’ us. One
Lawyer even publicly questioned online whether women
were ’safe’ in my courtroom, which shows you the hate
which is out there and how brainwashed these people are by
the cult to which they belong.
are leaving the UK and having retired as a judge I now help
run the Trans Exile Network helping people escape. The
Judiciary I think will simply follow the trend of society and
pursue the ‘biological purity’ approach now so favoured in
Government and in Gender Critical Ideology. So for example
the Judiciary now I understand (without applying the law
properly) excludes trans women (I assume staff and judges,
witnesses and even rape victims) from female spaces.
Judicial attitudes tend to follow society with a time lag and
I do not foresee a tolerant legal system returning for some
time. The overspill from this, which is intentional on the part
of Bio-purity proponents, is the notion of what is proper for
men and for women, and the rising abuse of lesbians and
non-femninine women in the UK in 2025 is likely to lead to
corresponding rather harder attitudes to the manifesting of
appearance and behaviour outside conventional norms. A
Lesbian abused in a loo for being ’trans’ may get less judicial
tolerance than before if she appears masculine and hence in
some sense ’ought not to be in the loos’ in Gender Critical
terms. We are heading for very conservative times. I foresee
legal changes to make further reversals to trans rights, in
statutes other than the Equality Act which was the subject
of the For Women Scotland case, and a range of targeted
litigation against businesses to ensure what amounts to
‘policing’ by businesses and employers. I think after the
atrocious For Women Scotland case it is time to consider
a greater democratic accountability of the Supreme Court
because it was a classic example of judicial legislation and
policymaking but clothed in Statutory construction: we saw
the highest court change the very definition of sexuality so
as to be merely ‘biological’ which was not even a part of the
dispute. The best way to serve the public and especially all
disadvantaged minorities is to reintroduce proper legal aid.
Q. From your vantage point in the judiciary, what legal
challenges do you see emerging for LGBTQIA+ rights in
the UK, particularly around issues like gender recognition,
healthcare access, or family law? How can the legal system
better serve these communities?
A. The UK is now in the worst position of any of the major
democracies, with trans women strip searched by men,
our legal sex recently reversed against our will, a loss of
equal rights (such as equal pay with men), rising crime and
ignorance, plans to segregate us in hospital, proposals for
a register of us, and so on. So much so that people like me
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LEGAL
TECH TALK
Interview with
Daniel Winterfeldt
MD, General Counsel EMEA, Jefferies
Daniel Winterfeldt, MD and EMEA General Counsel
at Jefferies and founder of InterLaw, has spent
nearly two decades championing LGBTQ+ rights in
the legal sector. In this interview, he reflects on the
progress made, persistent challenges, and the work
still needed to achieve true equality.
Q. What do you see as the most significant gaps that
remain in the UK legal sector for LGBTQ+ talent, and
how do intersecting identities come into play?
A. We’ve made tremendous progress in the UK legal
sector over the past 18 years. When InterLaw was
formed, there was virtually no visibility. We started
with quite a boom because there wasn’t much
activity happening. In our first six years, we worked
with firms to help them launch networks, monitoring
programmes, and embed best practice, including
involvement in the Stonewall Workplace Equality
Index.
When we launched InterLaw, nobody in the top 100
employers was from the legal sector, which ranked
second from the bottom in the UK, and only three law
firms out of over a thousand had LGBTQ+ networks.
Within six years, we went from second from bottom
to number one as a sector. We saw 17 law firms reach
the top 100 employers, everyone launched networks
and ally programmes, and monitoring began. This was
supported by the Equality Act 2010, which enshrined
civil rights for protected characteristics including
sexual orientation and gender identity.
The challenge now is moving beyond having
networks and marching in Pride to really examining
the talent cycle. Our data shows huge issues around
representation at senior levels. At many organisations,
the numbers of partners at equity level haven’t
improved at all in the past five years. In our career
progression report, we see significant pay disparities:
gay and bisexual men, for example, make 50% less
than their straight counterparts in the top 10% of
earners.
When comparing LGBTQ+ professionals to the other
protected characteristics monitored by the SRA, all
groups have grown except LGBTQ+ talent, which
also shows some of the highest attrition rates. The
challenges are different now than they were before,
requiring organisations to examine their data and
address shortfalls.
Q. How effectively are legal protections like the
Equality Act being implemented in practice?
A. That’s always the challenge. Women have
supposedly been paid equally since the 1970s
according to law, but we still know there are gender
pay gaps and equal pay issues. Unfortunately, the
law is just the beginning. We need reality to catch up
through society and organisations addressing issues,
looking for barriers, and removing them.
In the UK and Europe, laws are often passed first
and then people catch up. In the US, because of the
electoral system and grassroots politics, when things
get passed into law there’s usually more consensus
beforehand. When I worked in New York in the 1990s,
corporates and law firms were implementing samesex
partner healthcare and benefits before the law
required it. They weren’t waiting for legislation.
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LEGAL
TECH TALK
Here, things happen and then people catch up with
the law afterwards. There’s definitely a gap, which you
can see across the board in our data.
Q. What actions can individuals and organisations
take as allies to support LGBTQ+ talent?
A. It’s important to look at the data. Our research
shows LGBTQ+ women often earn more than straight
women but have much less job satisfaction and feel
much more unhappy and unsupported. They often
experience negative workplace situations.
Organisations should examine both quantitative and
qualitative data, having roundtables, meeting people
one-on-one, and asking where things are going well,
where there are challenges, and how they can provide
support. This needs to be done in a tailored way.
There isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution. The visible work
people are doing is great, but there’s a lack of activity
around retention and promotion of talent, particularly
for LGBTQ+ professionals. We desperately need
more activity around helping people into leadership,
removing barriers to progression, ensuring equal
pay and opportunity, and making sure attrition rates
decrease for senior-level talent whilst ensuring they’re
treated well and paid fairly.
Q. What emerging legal issues do you anticipate will
become central to LGBTQ+ advocacy in the next five
to ten years?
A. We’re really at a turning point. We’re seeing
pushback on not just DEI in the legal sector, but on
LGBTQ+ rights both in the US and UK, particularly on
transgender issues. We’ve seen significant court cases
in the UK around the definition of transgender women
and how that intersects with gender identity versus
sex.
we want is dignity and to live our lives. These aren’t
special rights; these are about being treated the same
as all other people.
I think we’ve lost that. There’s a lot of polarisation on
social media and in mainstream media that doesn’t
serve us well because the world isn’t black and white;
it’s a thousand shades of grey. Approaching things in
a nuanced way, learning to engage with people who
think differently, finding common ground and middle
ground, making compromises: these bring progress
in civil rights. All-or-nothing approaches, which many
people seem to be taking now, aren’t helpful and don’t
get you where you need to go.
Things are incremental and take time. That’s how
we’ve gotten where we are, and that’s also why we’re
going backwards in some areas. When people haven’t
been flexible or open to incremental approaches,
it creates negative will among allies trying to move
things forward.
We’ve lost our way with activism. Social media isn’t
a great place to influence people because most
followers already agree with you. Even a post that
gets 500,000 likes probably reached 500,000 people
who already agreed. You need to reach people who
aren’t following you, which is why social media is
difficult for this work. Getting back to grassroots
engagement and reaching people who aren’t already
supporting you is crucial. Many people calling
themselves activists aren’t really doing effective work,
which is why we’re stagnant or moving backwards in
some cases.
One thing that’s very clear is that we’re not bringing
people with us on this journey. The reason we’ve been
so successful in the UK in advancing rights, having the
Equality Act, civil partnerships, and equal marriage
is that we were very good at bringing people with
us, winning hearts and minds, getting people to
understand that we’re just like everybody else. All
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Minutes With...
Alex Gregory
Chialton
What is your most memorable achievement
Q whilst working in your current role?
10 MINS WITH
Winning Business Development Champion of the Year at
a conveyancing awards ceremony. I had only been in the
conveyancing world for 12 months when I won the award,
and I feel like I worked so hard to build the visibility of our
firm in such a short space of time. Receiving this was unreal!
What has been the most valuable piece of
Q advice you have been given?
If I am being completely honest, the most valuable piece of
advice I have ever received was from a good friend of mine,
Dave Verburg. Not many people grow up wanting to be in
the world of property, and he helped me understand WHY
I do what I do. Understanding your WHY is so crucial if you
want to feel successful in your life and career. This has been
the most valuable piece of advice anyone has ever given me.
QWhat has been the key positive or negative
impact of change in your area of the market?
The first department we opened in Liverpool was
conveyancing. Since doing this and moving into the field,
I have seen big changes in the sector. An example of this
is the Building Safety Act coming into place. This has seen
conveyancers tearing their hair out trying to juggle already
overstretched caseloads, while taking the risk if they miss
anything crucial.
Most conveyancing departments handle the highest volume
of fast-paced work, often for the lowest price possible.
Factory conveyancing outlets drive prices down even further,
and our customers want the process completed as quickly as
possible, usually for the lowest fee. People often disregard
the fact that conveyancing firms are paid the least in the
entire property transaction, yet they carry the bulk of the
responsibility when things aren’t done correctly.
The risks of getting the Building Safety Act wrong far
outweigh the fees received, and we have seen solicitors
refusing to take on the work. We have also seen the number
of transactions for properties that fall under this legislation
reduce significantly.
One thing we need to consider as a sector is how this
impacts the customer journey. Overwhelming conveyancers
with massive pipelines in order to bill high simply won’t work
for our customers, but striking the right balance is a difficult
task in itself.
If you were not in your current position, what
Q would you like to be doing?
This is a hard one because I can’t picture myself being
anywhere else right now. If I hadn’t gone down this path
of working within property, I imagine I would have fulfilled
my dream of becoming a geography teacher! I’d love to say
I would be a cool teacher, but I know that wouldn’t be the
case at all!
What three items would you put on display in
Q a museum of your life and why?
I would have a family photo of my twin boys. They are
beautiful whirlwinds and certainly keep me on my toes.
Another would be a picture of my old school badge. Our
school motto was Fidem Vita Fateri – which means “show
your faith by the way you live”. This still resonates in
everything I do to this day.
I would also have a rugby ball. I play rugby for Birkenhead
Park and have done since the women’s team started there
(17 years ago). There’s a running joke that I can’t retire until
I score a try! So, I am still playing, and although I was injured
for the entire last season, I hope to get some game time this
season – and who knows, maybe I can finally hang up my
boots!
What three guests would you invite to a
Q dinner party?
I feel like I’m boring with this one, as I would invite my
nan. She passed away a couple of years ago, and she had
absolutely no indoor voice or tact, so she would be hilarious
with the other guests. I’d invite Sara Cox as I think she would
be hilarious too – and I’m a big Radio 2 fan. I’d also invite
Jürgen Klopp! What an inspirational man. I also think my nan
would be made up to see him there.
Alex Gregory Chialton,
Office & Business Development Manager, Dutton Gregory LLP
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