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interviu Cawerilia 19 dekembers.

_ qalbatono lela, axla ara mxolod

saqarTvelo, aramed amerikac da

evropac didi interesiT adevneben Tvalyurs

safrangeTsa da ruseTs Soris

mimdinare molaparakebebs samxedro vertmfrenmzidis

_ `mistralis~ _ Sesyidvis

Taobaze. ra Tqma unda, ruseTi ar

akonkretebs, sad da rogor gamoiyenebs

am xomalds, magram yvelaze sarwmuno

versiiT, `mistrali~ afxazeTis sanapiroze

Casayeneblad esaWiroeba. amitomacaa gasakviri

safrangeTis pozicia. es xom is

qveyanaa, romlis prezidentic esoden

aqtiurad iyo CarTuli ruseT-saqarTvelos

Soris arsebul daZabulobaSi.

_ gaixseneT 1992-1993 wlis winaswarmetyvelebebi,

romlebic exeboda yvela evropul qveyanas

da aseve amerika-evropis urTierTobebs.

da nu gaviwydebaT sityvebi, naTqvami 1992

wels: `ruseTs Zalian surs afxazeTis SeerTeba,

magram es Ria, utvino TamaSia da arasdros

moxdeba; xolo is sisxli, rac rusebma

saqarTveloSi daRvares, sakuTar saxlSi

taifunad gadaeqcevaT~. es aris globaluri

xedva da winaswarmetyveleba, romelic gakeTda

mravali wlis win da TavisTavad cxadyofs

ruseTis saboloo damarcxebas saqarTvelo-

Si. amitom, gemebs daayeneben aq Tu kosmosur

xomaldebs, amas araviTari mniSvneloba

ar aqvs. Tanac, saerTo jamSi, afxazeTis

sanapiroze Cayenebul gemebs afeTqeba aweriaT,

anu terorebi. mere ki jarTad gayidian.

`mistrals~ saqarTvelosTvis safrTxis Seqmnis

TvalsazrisiT araviTar mniSvnelobas

ar vaniWeb da ai ratom: es aris okeanis,

anu didi sivrcis gemi da ara Savi zRvis

akvatoriisTvis Sesaferisi Tavisi zomebis

gamo (me, ra Tqma unda, gemebisa araferi

vici, rogorc vxedav amwuTas, ise vambob).

hoda evropas, TurqeTsa da irans (sadac

ruseTi udides bazas ikeTebs) is urCevniaT,

kargad dafiqrdnen amaze, mixvdnen, rom ruseTi

maT daartams da patara saqarTvelo aq

arafer SuaSi ar aris (axla, politologebo

da eqspertebo, ar miiTvisoT es

winaswarmetyvelebac da sakuTari analizebis

nayofad ar gaasaRoT, rogorc yovelTvis.

isev TqvenTvis vambob amas, imitom, rom

kosmosi saTiTaod dagsjiT. sircxvilia,

bolosdabolos, rame sakiTxze sakuTari azri

xom unda gagaCndeT?)!

mokled, roca evropa kargad mova azrze,

rom es ruseT-saqarTvelosi ki ara, ruseTamerika-evropis

omia, cota dagvianebuli ar

aRmoCndes. samxedro vertmfrenis pirveli

afrena `mistralidan~, isic Tu afrinda,

ganxorcieldeba safrangeTis winaRmdeg da

italiasac zed daayoleben.

Tumca, aqve isic minda aRvniSno, rom

`mistrali~ TiTqmis ukve CamosawerTa siaSia

da ruseTs igi safrTxobelasaviT dasaSineblad

Wirdeba. ki, evropac ase fiqrobs,

magram am safrTxobelas rusebi, Tu daWirdebaT,

gamoiyeneben da mizansac ar aacdenen.

ase rom, saqarTvelos garda, yvela frTxilad

iyos.

_ qalbatono lela, rodesac Tqveni

1994 wlis 5 maisisa (`sad aris rusuli

armia, rusuli floti? ar iarsebebs!!!~.)

da 1996 wlis 29 noembris (`ruseTs

sakuTari Tavi aqvs gadasarCeni, magram

cocxali TaviT ar unda, rom saqarTvelos

xeli gauSvas. vnaxoT, sadamde eyofaT

Zala. ruseTis armia _ jari ar

arsebobs!!! absoluturad daSlilia!~)

Canawerebi wavikiTxe pirvelad, simar-

Tle giTxraT, dajereba gamiWirda. verafriT

warmovidgendi, rom im saxelmwifos

samarTalmemkvidres, romlis biujetis

uudidesi nawili swored SeiaraRebisa

da Tavdacvis gaZlierebaze

ixarjeboda, aseTi problemebi Seeqmneboda.

darwmunebuli var, aseTi ganwyoba

eqneboda, Tu yvelas ara, Zalian

bevrs mainc. Tumca, gamoxda xani da

dRes yvela xilulad darwmunda

winaswarmetyvelebis WeSmaritebaSi.

da me getyviT Tqven...

mkiTxvels yovel nomerSi vTavazobT

intervius qarTvel winaswarmetyvelTan.

igi isaubrebs mocemuli momentisTvis

yvelaze metad aqtualur Temebze, Tumca

qalbatoni lelas pasuxebi yovelTvis

efuZneba ramdenime wlis win Caweril

winaswarmetyvelebebs.

_ saqme isaa, rom sabWoTa kavSiris

daSlis Semdeg ruseTSi fulis Sovnaze ufro

iyvnen gadarTulebi, vidre SeiaraRebuli

Zalebis gaZlierebaze. swored amitom hyavdaT

rusebs uamravi milioneri. roca saqme

saqmeze midga da mTeli msoflio alaparakda

rusuli armiisa da SeiaraRebuli Zalebis

sisusteze, ruseTma TamaSi daiwyo _

udidesi fsiqologiuri TamaSi. aman Tavisi

Sedegi gamoiRo evropis mimarT. unda exla

Tbil bumbulebSi gaxveul evropas ruseTis

problemebi? ar unda! magram ai im bumbulebs

rom daaputavs kremli, mere vnaxav

seirs.

aqve aucileblad unda vuTxra da Sevaxseno

mkiTxvels, rom ruseTis yvela mcdeloba

absoluturad gaSiSvlebulia. me maqvs

winaswarmetyveleba, ruseTma aRmosavleT

sazRvrebs mixedos, Torem Cinelebi moskovs

male patara pekins daarqmeven-meTqi. am problemas

ruseTi ver moagvarebs da omic gaCaRdeba.

garda amisa, ruseTs uzarmazar Tavsatexad

rCeba CrdiloeT kavkasia. ukve momxdari

teraqtebi araferia imaTTan SedarebiT, rasac

momavalSi mouwyoben. iqneba gaugonar terorebi,

afeTqebebi moxdeba iseT obieqtebze,

sadac SeRweva TiTqos SeuZlebelia. es 1994-

1997 wlebSi nawinaswarmetyvelebi movlenebis

dasturia, rom muslimuri samyaro moimarTeba

ruseTis winaaRmdeg. swored amitom vwinaswarmetyvelebdi,

rusis jari garbis saku-

Tari miwis dasacavad-meTqi da asec moxdeba.

_ amasobaSi, rogorc araerTxel

brZaneT, saqarTvelosa da ruseTs Soris

informaciuli omi grZeldeba. amas winaT

tailandSi CrdiloeT koreidan gamofrenili

TviTmfrinavi daakaves, romelsac

didZali iaraRi gadahqonda. rusulma

mediam myisierad gaavrcela informacia,

dakavebuli TviTmfrinavi saqarTvelos

ekuTvniso. marTlac hqonda Tu ara

raime saxis kavSiri saqarTvelos am

TviTmfrinavTan?

_ ki, magram, Tuki rusebi samxedro

gemebs yiduloben, CvenTvis akrZalulia iaraRis

SeZena? Tu saqarTvelos qmedebaa ukanono

da kremlisa kanonieri? ai eg agiJebs ruseTs,

rom saqarTvelo iaraRdeba. hoda, gaskdnen

gulze: diaxac, Cveni iyo is TviTmfrinavi

da eg ra aris _ kidev bevri TviTmfrinavi

Camoitans imas, rac esoden Wirdeba saqarTvelos

_ iaraRs! rac saqarTvelos momavalSi

eqneba, im frangul gemze bevrad uaresia.

ara, exla bodiSs movuxdiT ruseTs, ar

gewyinoT, armias rom vaiaraRebT-Tqo.

TviTon rom amayad aCveneben, rogor amarageben

afsuebs iaraRiT da rogor iwyeben

iq samxedro bazebis mSeneblobas, es dasaSvebia?

Tumca, ra? rogorc adre viwinaswarmetyvele,

ruseTi afxazeTsa da sama-

CabloSi sakuTar bazebs ver ganalagebs.

iwyeben keTebas, magram ver gaakeTeben.

ase rom, saqarTvelos eqneba uZlieresi,

ultraTanamedrove SeiaraReba. swored es

Seqmnis uzarmazar dacviT bades, romelsac

veravin, veraviTari Zala ver garRvevs! ase

rom, ramdenic unda ixtunaos ruseTma, mainc

verafers miaRwevs.

_ qalbatono lela, zemoT italia

axseneT. am qveynis mTavroba marTlac

rom gadaWarbebul loialobas iCens

ruseTis mimarT. amis erT-erTi magali-

Tia italiis sagareo saqmeTa ministris

mondomeba, evrokavSiris qveynebma savizo

reJimi gauuqmon ruseTs. sxvaTa

Soris, SarSandeli omis Semdeg evropis

qveynebma es sakiTxi saqarTvelosTan

dakavSirebiT wamoswies, roca isini Zalian

aRSfoTebul-SeSfoTebulebi iyvnen kremlis

politikiT. daTanxmdebian Tu ara

evropis sxva saxelmwifoebi italiis

(gagrZeleba gv.10)

redaqtoris TviTneburi, magram koreqtuli pasuxi

erTi satelevizio arxis erTi gadacemis `wamyvans!~

rogorc saTaurSive xedavT, adresati ar

konkretdeba. es ki imas niSnavs, rom arc

polemikas vapireb vinmesTan da arc pasuxs

viTxov (ufro gulaxdilad ki, vindob).

Cemi mokle da vfiqrob, marTlac Zalze

koreqtuli werili (udidesi aRSfoTebis

miuxedavad, zrdilobis CarCoebs araviTar

SemTxvevaSi ar gavcdebi) sainformacio-ganmartebiT

xasiaTs atarebs. TviTneburi ki

imitomaa, rom qalbatoni lelasTvis, cxovrebaSi

pirvelad, werilis Sesaxeb araferi

miTqvams da ar SemiTanxmebia.

erTi sityviT, telemayureblis SekiTxvaze

(diletanturi) pasuxis (kompetenturi)

pasuxi axla iwereba, magram SeiZleba dRis

sinaTle ver ixilos im martivi mizezis

gamo, rom Cemi TviTneboba droulad aRkveTon.

es xumrobagaSvebiT.

seriozulad da Tanac, friad seriozulad

ki...

Rrmad pativcemulo X,

minda gacnoboT, rom lela kakulias

winaaRmdeg SarSan, agvistos Semdeg gansakuTrebiT

gaaqtiurebuli Ria da

mravalmxrivi brZola nel-nela misustda,

miinavla da TiTqmis srulad Sewyda.

ara, amis mizezi is ar aris, rom qalbatoni

lelasdami interesi ganelda, piriqiT

_ interesi mzardia. ubralod, saqme

isaa, rom isini, vinc ilaSqrebdnen

winaswarmetyvelebis winaaRmdeg, qilikobdnen

da lazRandarobdnen kosmiur informaciebze,

anu xelisufleba, opozicia, rusuli

specsamsaxurebi, politolog-eqspertebi

da kidev erTi Zalian Semosavliani samsaxuris

TanamSromlebi, iZulebulni gaxdnen,

gaCumebuliyvnen, vinaidan movlenebis ganvi-

Tarebam da Seqmnilma situaciam maTac da

sxvebsac daanaxa, rom lela kakulias Ti-

Toeuli sityva asrulda da saTqmeli aRaravis

aRaraferi darCa.

aba, rogorRa unda Seayaron TvalSi

nacari sazogadoebas, rodesac, miuxedavad

aTasi bunebrivi Tu xelovnuri barierisa,

Cveni gazeTi mainc gamoicema, qalbatoni

lelas informaciebi mainc midis mkiTxvelamde

da xalxma mSvenivrad gaigo, ufro

sworad, darwmunda, rom irgvliv yvela

tyuis, garda winaswarmetyvelisa da

winaswarmetyvelebisa.

amitom, mavanis gasagonad minda vTqva:

Tqveni mcdeloba, axali talRa aagoroT

winaswarmetyvelis winaRmdeg, amaoa da fuWi.

nu cdilobT, iyoT patriarqze ufro metad

marTlmadidebeli (momiteveT perifrazisTvis)

da eWviT SexedoT WeSmaritebas.

gacnobebT, rom lela kakulias didi

xania, moZRvaric hyavs (misi pirveli moZRvari

awgardacvlili margveli mitropoliti

meufe konstantine gaxldaT, romlis

araerTi werilobiTi kurTxeva, rogorc

winaswarmetyvelisa, qalbaton lelasTan inaxeba

da gazeTSic araerTxel gamoqveynebula;

amJamindeli moZRvari ki mama faranavazi

gaxlavT, iveriis RvTismSoblis taZridan),

uamrav saeklesio pirTanac megobrobs (maT

Soris, umaRlesi rangis warmomadgenlebTanac,

romlebic didi sixaruliT stumroben

xolme masTan saxlSi, vinaidan zustad

ician, visTanac aqvT saqme), eklesiaSic

dadis (ufro metic, saqarTvelos lamis

yvela eklesia-monasteri aqvs molocvili)

da mTel samyaroSi kaci ver Seedreba

rwmenis siZliereSi. amitom Tqveni mowodeba,

aiyvanos moZRvari da iaros eklesiaSi,

garda imisa, rom Zlier dagvianebulia,

zedmeticaa da sruliad usargebloc.

da kidev: iciT ratomaa lela kakulia

rwmenaSi Seudareblad Zlieri? imitom rom

is pirdapir xedavs da esaubreba imas,

visac mavani sityviT aRiarebs, guliT ki

ara, vinaidan bolomde ar swams!

ase rom, mSvidad brZandebodeT, batonebo.

lela kakulias saxiT qarTul eklesias

wiaRSi `Ze cTomili~ ki ar hyavs, aramed

WeSmariti winaswarmetyveli.

da Tu vinmes amisa ar swams, es misi

piradi problemaa.

uRrmesi pativiscemiT,

irma gelaSvili.

mTavari redaqtori: irma gelaSvili

gazeTi registrirebulia vake-saburTalos raionul sagadasaxado inspeqciaSi.

gazeTSi da vebgverdze gamoyenebuli masalebis da fotoebis gadabeWdva-gamoqveyneba

redaqciis Tanxmobis gareSe akrZalulia. saavtoro uflebebi daculia.

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kosmosSi kosmosSi dro dro ar ar arsebobs!

arsebobs!

(2009 wels Cawerili winaswarmetyvelebebi)

`winaswarmetyvelebam ar icis Svili da qmari, axlobeli da

megobari. Cven vambobT imas, rasac vxedavT da gveubnebian...

miiReT ise, rogorc vwinaswarmetyveleb!~

16 noemberi.

vxedav, momavalSi amerikis mTavroba

radikalur nabijebs gadadgams. es ruseTisTvis

Zalian moulodneli dartyma iqneba. molaparakebebi

or zesaxelmwifos Soris Sedegs

ver moitans. vxedav, amerika nel-nela, magram

myarad dgeba saqarTvelos sakiTxSi da arafers

dauTmobs rusebs. ubralod, yvelaferi drois

ambavia.

ruseTis xelisuflebam Zalian kargad icis,

rom adre Tu gvian, mouwevs saqarTvelos

teritoriis datoveba da amitom yvelanair

provokaciaze midis. rusebs ki ratomRac

hgoniaT, rom rogorc soWi SerCaT, ise

SerCebaT afxazeTi da samaCablo! ver moeswrebian!

yvelaferi ruseTis winaaRmdeg moimarTeba.

amerika ruseT-iranis urTierTobebs

gaarTulebs; ruseTis gavlenas Zalian Seasustebs

aRmosavleT aziaSi _ TiTqmis yvelgan.

ruseTs aravin endoba.

irani momavalSi, vxedav, did ukmayofilebas

gamoTqvams ruseTis mimarT. aseve sxva

muslimuri qveynebic. es jer kidev 20 wlis

win viwinaswarmetyvele!!!

ruseTs gauWirdeba energoresursebis gayidva.

`samxreTis nakadi~ _ ase daarqves

gzas, romelzec, vxedav, didi asruleba ar

eqnebaT da imedebic ucruvdebaT, vinaidan

maT dakarges ndoba saxelmwifoebisa, msoflios

wamyvani qveynebisa da maTi imijis ase

dacemaSi saqarTvelom iTamaSa didi roli.

dResac grZeldeba es politikuri TamaSebi.

ruseTSi aseve iqneba didi gamosvlebi.

xalxi gareT gamodis. am talRas kremlis

binadarni ver SeaCereben. saqarTvelos uTxridnen

Zirs da TviTon ki moiTxrebian!

qarTul politikaSi ki igive meordeba.

opozicia fexze ver dadgeba, vxedav. ratom?

aq kiTxvac ki ar unda daisvas. nuTu ggoniaT,

rom Cems xalxs sklerozi aqvs da

araferi axsovs? Tu opoziciis axali liderebi,

anu mTavrobis warmomadgenlebi ase uceb

gadakeTdnen, gadasxvaferdnen da xalxi maT

ver cnobs? sasaciloa! frTxilad! TqvenTvis

Cemi xalxi brboa da fiqrobT, gaWirveba

aiZulebs maT, rom, ase vTqvaT, opozicias

gamoyves? magram Tqveni es gaTvlebi ar

gamarTldeba. geyoT xalxis dacinva. icinis

is, vinc bolos icinis. hoda, Cemi sayvareli

xalxi da mTeli saqarTvelo bolos gaicinebs!

es asea asi procentiT. winaswarmetyveleba

yovelTvis sruldeba.

sacodaoba is aris, rom iqmneba viTom

axali partiebi, magram isev Zveli saxeebi

figurireben. xalxs ki maTi ar sjera. xalxs

aravisi ar sjera. Tumca, es gza gasavlelia.

saqarTvelo unda gaxdes evropis nawili

da es asec moxdeba momavalSi, magram dRes

arc es sakiTxi ainteresebs xalxs.

qarTuli politikuri kursi ar

Seicvleba. saqarTvelo Seva

natoSi; saqarTvelos sakuTari

jari eyoleba; saqarTvelo

daibrunebs teritoriebs da es

aris gza Cemi qveynis

aRmavlobisken, gza mSvidobisa da

Tavisuflebisken!

17 noemberi.

vxedav, Sav zRvaze TurqeT-ruseTis interesebi

erTmaneTs ar emTxveva momavalSi.

vxedav, didi uTanxmoebaa am or saxelmwifos

Soris da TurqeTi acxadebs, rom afxazeTi

_ es ruseTis teritoria araa da ruseTs

ar aqvs ufleba saqarTvelos teritoriaze,

anu Savi zRvis qarTul zolze agresiis

ganxorcielebisa. es ruseTisTvis TurqeTis

saxelmwifosgan Zalian moulodneli dartyma

iqneba.

diax, momavalSi, vxedav, ruseTi

kargavs iseT Zlier mokavSires

saqarTvelosTan brZolaSi,

rogoric TurqeTia.

am sakiTxSi aseve Caerevian Savi zRvis

auzis qveynebic. maT ruseTis megobruli

urTierTobebisa ar swamT, ar sjeraT. isini

mzad arian pasuxis gasacemad da es pasuxi

ruseTisTvis Zalian uaryofiTia. Savi zRvis

auzis qveynebi momavalSi daupirispirdebian

ruseTs da iZulebuls gaxdian, ukan daixios.

saqarTvelos wylebSi Semodis

amerikuli samxedro gemebi(!) da

amaze `didi ruseTi~ xmasac ver

amoiRebs.

yvela erTxmad aRiarebs saqarTvelos teritoriul

mTlianobas _ Savi zRvis afxaze-

Tis zolis qarTul saxelmwifosTan er-

Tianobas, rogorc xmeleTze, ise zRvaze.

germania yovelTvis uTmobda ruseTs da

ormag TamaSs Riad TamaSobda. amjerad ki,

momavalSi, vxedav, mouwevT bevri ramis daTmoba

ruseTTan mimarTebaSi; mouwevT aRiaron

evropis, msoflios azri saqarTvelosdami

yvela mimarTulebiT yovelgvari politikuri

TamaSebis gareSe.

diax, germanias rom uari ar

eTqva saqarTvelosTvis mapis

micemaze, anu natoSi

gawevrianebaze, ruseTi ver

gabedavda saqarTvelos agresias.

icodeT, rogorc ar unda SealamazoT,

istoria simarTles mainc ityvis, rom germaniam,

anu misma mTavrobam merkelis meTaurobiT,

ruseTs saSualeba misca saqarTvelosTan

omis dawyebisa.

male yvelaferi Zalian swrafad Seicvleba!

saqarTvelom Tavisi gziT unda iaros.

evropa-amerikis rCevebi, Tuki isini Cvens

qveyanas gamoadgeba, ki, batono, miviRoT;

xolo maTi, ase vTqvaT, rCevebi, romlebic

araviTar sargeblobas ar moutans Cems qveyanas

da Cems xalxs, arafrad ar gvWirdeba

da unda uarvyoT. diax, saqarTvelom Secdomebi

ar unda dauSvas am kuTxiT. saqarTvelo

isedac Seva natoSi, vibrunebT Cvens teritoriebs,

ruseTis jari tovebs saqarTvelos

samudamod da a.S. magram

bewvis xidi, Cemo qarTvelebo,

mainc gasavleli gvaqvs. gavivliT

kidec!

aseTia winaswarmetyveleba, romelic, albaT,

eWvi aRar geparebaT, rom asruldeba.

icvleba qarTuli politika. icvlebian

politikosebi. modis, vxedav, Zlieri, namdvili

opozicia da saerTod, es didi politikuri

cvla iqneba dasawyisi saqarTvelos

saxelmwifos aRmavlobisa. asea, kosmosi yvelas,

es qveynebia Tu xalxia, Tavis adgils

miuCens!

minda aRvniSno, rom 2012 wels

msoflios warRvna ar emuqreba!

msoflios emuqreba sxvadasxva qimiuri

baqteriebi, romlebic, merwmuneT, warRvnaze

uaresia, rac adrec viwinaswarmetyvele. adamianma

imdeni ram Seqmna, rac aTi dedamiwis

ganadgurebas eyofa. es im qveynebsac unda

esmodeT, romlebic qimiur iaraRs awarmoeben.

sxvas Tu dauSaveben rames, arc Tavad

daadgebaT kargi dRe. qimiurma infeqciam ar

icis patroni da mteri, erTnairad daartyams

yvelas. dedamiwa ki isev iarsebebs, adamianebis

gareSe. amitom unda dafiqrdnen Zli-

lela kakulia

erni ama qveynisani, raSi WirdebaT es iaraRi?

Tumca isini erTmaneTs gaanadgureben.

magaliTad, momavalSi vxedav iranSi qimiur

afeTqebas. es Zalian cud Sedegs gamoiwvevs

mosaxleobaze da im adgils gasasufTaveblad

saukune daWirdeba. iqneb am magaliTma

sxvas aswavlos Wkua? magram adamiani pirvelobisken

iRvwis, rac sxva qveynebis xalxsac

uaryofiTad urtyams. aq ukve kosmoszea

damokidebuli, Tu romel qveynebs gadaarCens.

aseTi omebi warRvnaa, aba, raa?

saqarTvelo da Cemi sayvareli qarTvelebi

ki asi procentiT gadarCebian! es didi

omi bevr qveyanas Seexeba, magram sxva qveynebic

gadarCebian, uflis wyalobiT. gaiwirebian

isini, vinc mesame msoflio oms

iwyeben. kosmosi maT ar apatiebs. sakuTar

saxlSi aufeTqdebaT es sasikvdilo qimiuri

iaraRi! zesaxelmwifoebi iomeben mxolod (calkcalke?),

Semdeg gaerTiandebian da borotebas

daamarcxeben!!! mere ki simSvide daisadgurebs

dedamiwaze. maSin mTeli msoflio

daafasebs mSvidobas.

rac Seexeba saqarTvelos teritoriul

mTlianobas, kidev da kidev vimeoreb asjer

danaxuls, rom ruseTi ver wagvarTmevs da

ver daaqucmacebs saqarTvelos teritoriebs.

afxazeTi da samaCablo ZirZveli

qarTuli miwebia da misi

warTmeva gamoricxulia. iq

qarTuli suli trialebs da

namdvili baton-patronebi _

qarTvelebi, male dabrundebian

sakuTar saxlSi!

dRes ki saqarTvelo ibrZvis da es brZola

ar Sewydeba. ruseTi ver SeaCerebs am

Zalas; ver SeaCerebs verc CrdiloeT kavkasiis

omebs. ruseTi momavalSi Tavis yvela

qmedebaze agebs pasuxs. rac daTeses, imas

imkian _ omebs sakuTar saxlSi, sakuTar

miwaze.

aseve yvela moiTxovs Tavis miwas. iaponia

ruseTs moTxovs kurilis kunZulebs, Tanac

Zalian mkacrad (rac adrec viwinaswarmetyvele).

amas male ixilavs mTeli msoflio. yvelaferi

asruldeba erTmaneTis miyolebiT.

winaswarmetyveleba yovelTvis sruldeba ise,

rogorc aris danaxuli, gindaT Tu ara es.

ruseTi ki dinebis sawinaaRmdegod midis,

kosmosis nebis winaaRmdeg. es didi katastrofa

iqneba. frTxilad!

vxedav, moskovSi didi pirovneba

gardaicvleba, anu moklaven! amaze

mTeli ruseTi axmaurdeba. am

mkvlelobas sxva mohyveba.

frTxilad! didi terorebi

mzaddeba ruseTis winaaRmdeg.

amaSi Crdilokavkasielebis xeli

urevia. maT ruseTi ver

SeaCerebs.

20 noemberi.

amerikis mTavrobaSi, vxedav, momavalSi didi

cvlilebebi iqneba. es aucilebelicaa. mTeli

amerika xvdeba, rom Zlieri xelia saWiro,

Torem irani ise gaTavxeddeba, rom raketebsac

dauSens amerikas. iqneba didi garCevebi

da bolos yvelaferi didi omiT damTavrdeba.

frTxilad! muslimebi waageben! marTalia,

magram omi mainc saSinelebaa. Tumca yvelaferi

Zalian swrafad dasruldeba. es _

mesame msoflio omi, jer kidev oci wlis

win viwinaswarmetyvele (da 1995 wels gamocemul

JurnalSic gamovaqveyne).

aq CineTis saxelmwifo, vxedav, Zalian rTul

periodebs gadaitans. momavalSi, vxedav, didi


CineTi gakotrdeba da amas amerika gaakeTebs.

am procesebs araviTari msoflio krizisebi

ar mohyveba. mokled, mTlianad Seicvleba

msoflio politika, aseve qveynebic!

minda aRvniSno, rom iaponia kuriliis

kunZulebs daibrunebs!

aseve saqarTvelo ibrunebs afxazeTs, sama-

Cablos da sxva qarTul teritoriebsac, rac

ruseTma gaasxvisa. es asea asi procentiT.

aseve minda aRvniSno, rom saqarTvelo

natos wevri qveyana xdeba. amas xels veravin

SeuSlis, gansakuTrebiT ki, ruseTi.

male ruseTSi didi gamosvlebi

daiwyeba. ori prezidentis

gagonebac ki ar unda xalxs.

xalxi SimSilobs. erT dros

milionerebis simravliT cnobili

moskovi carielia. yvelam

yvelaferi dakarga, anu

daakargines.

axali prezidenti ver Seerwya eqsprezidentis

Zvel gunds, yvela erTmaneTs daupirispirda.

saqarTvelo ki opoziciis kriziss ganicdis.

TiTqos dro isev gaCerda, xolo uflis

saceri ki icreba.

frTxilad, politikosebo, am yvelafers ase

msubuqad da advilad nu uyurebT. yvelafers

aqvs bolo da dasasruli. politikosebis

gamosvlebi _ es Zveli simRerebia, anu warsuls

Cabarebuli Zveli `plastinkebi~. rogorc

ar unda abrunoT, mainc Zvelebi xarT. axali

xalxisTvis araferia. arCeven erTsa da imave

sakiTxebs, ki, Zalian mniSvnelovans, magram,

ra? mxolod laparakoben da meti araferi!!!

mokled, yvelaferi erT wreSi trialebs.

roca warsulSi

viwinaswarmetyvele, rac

moxdeboda opoziciasTan

dakavSirebiT, didi vnebaTaRelva

atyda. axla? axla ras ityviT?

verafersac ver ityviT. Tqveni

xalxs ar sjera da arc

dagijerebT!

winaswarmetyvelebebi ki yovelTvis sruldeba

da momavalSi modis Zala nTeli, romelic

xalxs da Cems samSoblos Tavisuflebas moutans.

modis mecnierTa partia, modis `giorgi brwyinvale~

da es aris gagrZeleba saqarTvelos

gaTavisuflebisa, saqarTvelos gaZlierebisa

da didi brZola, romelic Cems sayvarel

qarTvelebs gamarjvebamde miiyvans.

diax, vxedav gaerTianebul, Zlier

qarTul saxelmwifos!

diax, vxedav momavalSi 30 milion

qarTvels da gasul saukuneebSi

dakarguli teritoriebis

dabrunebas!

aseTia winaswarmetyveleba, romelic asi procentiT

asruldeba da eWvic nu SegeparebaT. amin!

25 noemberi.

ruseT-amerikis molaparakebebs Sedegi ar

eqneba. vxedav, momavalSi isini erTmaneTis

dauZinebeli mtrebi arian. es male Riad

gamoCndeba. amerikas (aseve evropasac) surs

Tu ara, saqarTvelo unda daicvas ruseTis

agresiisgan isev maTi imijisTvis, raTa msoflios

sxva qveynebTan mimarTebaSi kvlav zesaxelmwifod

darCnen. igives, oRond sapirispirod,

fiqrobs ruseTic, magram rusuli

politika waagebs. araswori politikuri

gadawyvetilebebi warsulSi _ ai, raSia

ruseTis ubedureba.

Cixidan, romelSic rusuli

politika moemwyvda, mxolod erTi

gamosavalia _rusis jarma

datovos saqarTvelos

teritoriebi.

nuTu ggoniaT, rom Cems xalxs

sklerozi

aqvs da

araferi

axsovs?

vimeoreb: saqarTvelo CeCneTi, CrdiloeT

kavkasia araa. saqarTvelo ikavebs Zalian seriozul

adgils msoflios politikaSi Tavisi

geopolitikuri mdebareobis gamo. gaigeT! veravin

da aravin SeZlebs uxeSi politikis

gatarebas momavalSi saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg.

diax, patara saqarTvelos didi, mniSvnelovani

roli ekisreba momavalSi. aseTia kosmosis

neba. ubralod, xelis erTi mosmiT ganiwmindeba

Cemi qveyana uwmindurebisa da Sadimanebisgan.

maT, utvino da arafrismcodne politikos-politolog-analitikosebianad,

sanagveze

moisvris kosmosi da RalatisTvis _ saku-

Tari xalxis RalatisTvis, naxavT, rogor

daisjebian! es arc xumrobaa da arc TamaSi.

diax, Tqven, adamianebo, SegqmnaT

kosmosma da Tu moisurva, erTi

xelis mosmiT gaganadgurebT!

dedamiwaze ze araferi arsebobs kosmosis

garda. arc mefeebi arseboben. isini midian

da modian, qveynebi viTardebian, mere civilizacia

aRwevs im kulminacias, rasac hqvia

TviTganadgureba da dedamiwaze yvelaferi

Tavidan iwyeba. asea, Cemo kargebo. amitom

miyvars gamonaTqvami: `droni mefoben da ara

mefeni!~ adamianebi unda ufrTxildebodnen

dedamiwas, magram bevrs goniereba ar gaaCnia.

isev aRvniSnav, rom msoflio politikaSi

vxedav did cvlilebebs _ Zalian mniSvnelovans.

rac saqarTvelos saSinao Tu sagareo

politikas exeba, yvelaferi viwinaswarmetyvele,

rac Tanmimdevrulad sruldeba.

mTavari ki isaa, rom, rasac vxedav da

meubnebian, imas vwer da zedmets arafers.

winaswarmetyvelebebi ki grZeldeba. mar-

Talia, adamianebs dRevandeli kvercxi

urCevniaT xvalindel qaTams, magram,

nurasukacravad, winaswarmetyveleba kvercxi

araa. igi kosmosidan modis uwyvetad da

did informacias gvawvdis, gvanaxebs

momavlis Sesaxeb. amas mxolod Wkviani

da rac mTavaria, namdvilad morwmune

adamiani gaigebs.

dabadebuli miwaze mxoxavad, caSi ver

ifrens! es kanonia. adamianebi mosulebi

xarT kosmosis sxvadasxva ganzomilebidan

da Tqvens mdgomareobas verafriT SecvliT.

yvela Tavis jvars atarebs. esec

kanonia. xolo winaswarmetyveleba ki momavals

gviCvenebs _ msoflios momavals.

es visTvis sainteresoa, visTvis _ ara,

magram informacia bevri sikeTis momtania

da bevric gadarCeba, imitom, rom

winaswarmetyveleba ar aris marto imedi.

winaswarmetyveleba _ es sicocxlis wyaroa,

WeSmaritebaa da sxva araferi.

rac ufro metad Sors dgebi simarTlisgan,

adamiano, Seni ambiciebis gamo,

miT metad daitanjebi momavalSi. amitom

frTxilad moepyariT winaswarmetyvelebas!

Tumca, rogorc gnebavT! amas TqvenTvis

vwer da rogor miiRebT am simarTles,

Tqveni Tavsatexia. amin!

ratom vwer? winaswarmetyvelebaa da

imitom. asea! miiReT ise, rogorc vwinaswarmetyveleb!

winaswarmetyveleba iwereba,

sruldeba TiToeuli sityva da

amas veraferi Secvlis.

mokled, male yvelaferi Seicvleba `did

ruseTSic~ da Cems saqarTveloSic. daelodeT!

Tumca, sad waxvalT?

vimeoreb: qarTul politikaSi axali saxeebi

Cndebian, gansakuTrebiT ki opoziciis

xaziT. es aucilebelicaa. gansakuTrebiT did

cvlas vxedav analitikos-politologebisa.

sircxvilia, daiCemo is, rac arc warsulSi

gesmodaT da momavalSi xom saerTod gagebaSi

ar xarT, ra xdeba. amitomac, vxedav,

xalxi arc gismenT da arc mogismenT.

xalxi arc gazeTebs aRar kiTxulobs. es

sakiTxi Zalze seriozulia. ramdenime wlis win

viwinaswarmetyvele, bevri gazeTi daixureba-meTqi.

asec moxdeba. gazeTebi kotrdeba da ixureba,

vxedav. am process veravin SeaCerebs! amin!!!

30 noemberi.

vxedav, muslimebis imedi, rom Zlieri fesvebi

gaidgan evropaSi, didi marcxiT damTavrdeba

momavalSi. diax, evropa arasdros dauSvebs

muslimTa salocavebis aSenebas. momavalSi es

sakiTxi arc ki daismeba, piriqiT. oci wlis

win viwinaswarmetyvele, rom muslimebs evropidan,

uxeSad rom vTqvaT, asi procentiT

gayrian-meTqi. evropis qveynebis moqalaqeoba

muslimebs uflebas ar aZlevs, rom TavianTi

qalaqebi daaarson, anu muslimuri sarwmunoebis

matarebeli qalaqebi Tavisi samlocveloebiT.

maT ufleba aqvT mxolod, iyvnen

evropis moqalaqeebi da meti araferi!!!

netav saqarTveloSi ratom ar aris ase?

ratom viklavT Tavs tolerantobaze? vis

Tu opoziciis axali liderebi, anu mTavrobis warmomadgenlebi ase uceb

gadakeTdnen, gadasxvaferdnen da xalxi maT ver cnobs? sasaciloa! frTxilad!

ras vanaxebT an ras vumtkicebT? Tu vumtkicebT,

gvifasdeba Tu ra?

piriqiT, sakuTar miwaze _ qarTul miwaze,

vuqmniT avtonomias, romelic droTa ganmavlobaSi

aucileblad `amuSavdeba~. magram es

saqarTveloSi vxedav, momavalSi ar gaamarTlebs.

me viwinaswarmetyvele 1992 wels, rom

saqarTveloSi avtonomia ar iarsebebs, rom

mola dadumdeba! vxedav mxolod qarTul eklesiebs,

vismenT qarTul sagaloblebs Cvens

sakuTar miwaze da modis dro, roca adamianebi

TavianT samSoblos ubrundebian imitom,

rom male saqarTveloSi bevri ram Seicvleba

Cemi qveynisa da qarTvelebis sasargeblod. da

es yvelaferi kosmosidan modis. verc teritoriebs

wagvarTmeven da verc eklesiebs.

minda aRvniSno, rom vxedav, is

uamravi seqta, romlebmac

TiTqosda myarad moikides fexi

saqarTveloSi, male gaqreba.

vxedav momavalSi Zalian, Zalian

did cvlilebebs sapatriarqoSi.

Zlieri rkinis xeli, Zlieri

energia moevlineba qarTul

marTlmadideblobas, romelic

gadaarCens ara marto

marTlmadideblobas, aramed mTel

Cems qveyanas!

saqarTvelo icavs Tavis uflebebs, rogorc

arasdros da arc erT taZars ar davuTmobT

aravis. mTeli saqarTvelo, xalxi xmas

aimaRlebs, protests gamoTqvams da es did

Sedegebs gamoiRebs!

vimeoreb: saqarTvelom aravis araferi ar

unda dauTmos, iSviaTi gamonaklisis garda,

roca raime mniSvnelovani politikuri sakiTxi

saqarTvelosTvis sasargeblo iqneba.

xolo kosmosi saqarTvelos yvela brZolas

asi procentiT moagebinebs.

5


diax, saqarTvelo is samoTxea, romelic

uyvars ufals. qarTvelebo, RmerTi CvenTanaa

da ar dauSvebs qarTvelTa ganadgurebasa da

gadaSenebas! im binZur TamaSs, rasac ruseTi

saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg axorcielebs, gamarjveba

ar aweria, gaigeT: ara! qarTvelebi

gavimarjvebT! ganiwmindeba eri Cemi urjulo-

Ta da moRalateTagan! dasufTavdeba qarTuli

eklesiebi uwmindurebisgan da gaixarebs qarTveli

eri! aseTia winaswarmetyveleba da igi asruldeba.

diax, winaswarmetyvelebas veraferi SeaCerebs.

kidev ixilavT asrulebebs, uamrav asrulebas

da es yvelaferi modis kosmosidan.

Tqven ki, Zlierno ama qveynisano,

gijobT Zalian frTxili nabijebi

gadadgaT politikaSi. icodeT,

Tqveni Secdomebi dausjeli ar

darCeba. kosmosi yvelgan, sadac

ar unda iyoT, Tvals gadevnebT.

es yvelaferi realuria. ormag

binZur TamaSs ar gapatieben!

dedamiwis macxovreblebs, qveynebs, saxelmwifoebs,

Zalian gauWirdebaT, imitom, rom

xdeba gadanawileba, mimdinareobs zesaxelmwifos

wodebisTvis brZola; aseve brZola

energoresursebisTvis da kidev sxva mravali

sakiTxis gamo, romlebic SedarebiT umtkivneulod

unda gadaiWras.

Cems sayvarel saqarTvelos ki minda kidev

erTxel da kidev mravaljer SevuZaxo:

qarTvelebo! axlosaa dro, roca amoisunTqebs

mTeli saqarTvelo, gansakuTrebiT

ki gaWirvebuli adamianebi. siTbo da

sixaruli Semova Tqvens ojaxebSi, baraqasa

da sikeTes ar moaklebs ufali TiToeul

qarTvels da es aris winaswarmetyveleba,

romelic asi procentiT asruldeba.

vimeoreb: qarTvelebi viyaviT, varT

da viqnebiT. yvela didi kataklizmi, rac

ki iboboqrebs dedamiwaze, ascdeba

saqarTvelos. diax, es ar aris zRapari,

es realobaa, romelic asruldeba.

saqarTvelo erTi didi taZaria, sadac

adamianebs xifaTi ar eliT da SeuZliaT,

Tavi Seafaron, magram Sadimanebi da

uwmindurebi iq ver moxvdebian!

Cemi saqarTvelo gadarCeba! gadarCeba

Cemi xalxi. amin!!!

2 dekemberi.

vxedav, momavalSi ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierTobebi

mainc ar daTbeba! evropam ar icis,

rogor moiqces. patara saqarTvelo ZvaliviT

yelze adgaT. da rusebs Cumad mainc uZvrebian.

maTi azriT, dro yvelafris mkurnalia.

cdebiT, batonebo, da kargad iciT, rom

isev Tqveni imijisTvisaa Zalian mniSvnelovani,

rom ruseTma Tavisi valdebulebebi

Seasrulos, anu datovos saqarTvelo. dRes

msofliom icis, rom ruseTi tyuis

saqarTvelosTan imis gamo, rasac qarTul

teritoriebze _ afxazeTsa da samaCabloSi

sCadian. isic ician, rom afsuebi, rogorc

eri, nel-nela ikargeba.

rac SeexebaT osebs, isini rom ver icxovreben

samaCabloSi da inguSeTi rom oms

gaumarTvs CrdiloeT oseTs (anu didi omebi

rom eliT), esec wlebis win viwinaswarmetyvele

da asruldeba (sruldeba kidec) asi procentiT.

isev vimeoreb: dRes qarTuli Sidapolitika

nulis tolia. xalxi mSieria, xalxi gaRizianebulia,

mTavari ki is aris, rom xalxs ar

sjera politikosebisa. yvelam dakarga ndoba.

maTi laparaki da politika arafers eyrdnoba.

ukve iseT sakiTxebze saubroben, rom maTi

mosmena da cqera aravis surs. isini im

qulebs iweren, romelsac xalxi zurgs Seaqcevs.

vimeoreb: maTi mosmena aravis surs. yvelam

icis, rom opozicia arafris gamkeTebelia. igive

xalxi, igive saxeebi da mTavari: igive, dazepirebuli,

viTomda politikurad momgebiani frazebi,

isev energiuli, isteriuli gamosvlebi,

raTa xalxi, maTi WkuiT, gamofxizldes.

vai Tqven!

Cems xalxs didi xania RviZavs. Tu vinmea

gamosafxizlebeli, es Tqven xarT; es Tqven

gZinavT. amitom frTxilad! Tqveni iaffasiani

politikuri gamosvlebiTa da frazebiT veRar

moatyuebT sazogadoebas! girCevT, `plastinka~

SecvaloT.

yvela xedavT, rom yvelaferi CixSi emwyvdeva.

xalxs arc natoSi Sesvla ainteresebs

da arc ruseTi. rogor iarsebon, rogor

iSovon puris fuli _ ai maTi safiqrali

da marTlebic arian! romel samSoblos siyvarulsa

da Tavdadebas sTxovT mSier xalxs?

yvelafers is Rupavs, rom ar arsebobs

erTsulovneba da verc miRweven amas. xalxisac

ar cxveniaT.

magram vxedav, Zalian axlosaa is

dro, roca qarTul politikaSi

mecnierTa partia Cndeba. SeicnoT

isini, Zalian iolia, imitom, rom

maT garda arc aravin iqneba

ukve politikur arenaze.

dRes ki mTavrobaSi didi cvlilebebi

iqneba _ isev ministrebis cvla, magram esec

igivea xalxisTvis, warsulis gameorebaa.

mokled, dro gaCerda. Sidapolitika axali

intrigebiT ivseba da yvela zRvars

6

scdeba! saqarTvelosTvis ki yvelaze mTavari

natoSi integraciaa, raTa davicvaT Cveni

miwebi, SevinarCunoT qarTuli saxelmwifo,

avicdinoT ruseTis agresia da a.S. da a.S.

rac dRes xalxs sulac ar ainteresebs.

isini gazeTebsac aRar kiTxuloben.

amitom bevri gazeTi daixureba

_ gakotrdeba didi gazeTebi,

ase vTqvaT.

erTi da igive mobezrda xalxs _ laqlaqi

da meti araferi. vxedav, uimedoba ufrodaufro

Rvivdeba xalxSi, maT umoqmedoba agiJebT.

erTi ram uSvelis Cems ers: sworad

unda Seafason mdgomareoba, is, rac saqarTvelos

politikaSi xdeba. araswori analizi

gzas agirevT da usasrulo depresias moggvriT,

saidanac veRar gamoxvalT. iazrovneT,

adamianebo, da swori mimarTuleba mieciT

Tqvens gadawyvetilebebs, Torem rac gaqvT,

imasac dakargavT. Tumca, es yvelaferi kosmosidan

modis. winaswarmetyveleba unda asruldes

da yvelaferi iqiT midis.

me viwinaswarmetyvele adre, rom Cemi gazeTi

_ `qarTveli winaswarmetyveli _ lela

kakulia~ _ erTaderTia, sadac simarTle

weria. diax, simarTle, romelic mere asi

procentiT sruldeba. marTalia, didi brZolebi

gamogvicxades, magram wagebulebi TviTon

darCnen. yvelaferi Tanmimdevrulad sruldeba

da am faqts veravin gaeqceva. xolo vinc

uxeSad Seexo uflis sityvas _ axal sityvas,

ki xedavT, rogorc isjebian. maT kosmosi

kidev ufro dasjis da nebas aravis

miscems, rom winaswarmetyveleba am kacunebma,

Tavisi WkuiT, gaabaTilon!

Cemi gazeTi _ es aris udidesi energia,

imedi, romelic daganaxebT swor gzas, sikeTesa

da siTbos moitans Tqvens ojaxebSi. amas

vxedav da vambob guliT, vinaidan me miyvars

Cemi saqarTvelo, miyvars Cemi datanjuli

qarTvelebi. amaze didi siyvaruli ar arsebobs.

amisTvis me _ lela kakuliam, bevri

ram davTme. diax, Cemi eris siyvarulisTvis

bevri damipirispirda, magram isini damarcxdnen

ise, rom jer kidev kargad ver gauazrebiaT,

ras ebrZodnen! roca gaiazreben, maSin

ukve Zalian gviani iqneba.

xalxs axali sityva wyaliviT wyuria da

isini miiReben gabrwyinebul, Tavisufal

saqarTvelos; saqarTvelos, romelic qarTvelebisaa

da sxva aravisi. zne, wesi, azrovneba,

deda ena _ yvelaferi qarTuli rCeba, arc

arsad wasula. amas veraferi waSlis.

gaigeT, qarTvelebo, Cven viyaviT da viqnebiT

mudam! Cven moveswrebiT gabrwyinebul, Zlier

saqarTvelos! es jer kidev 25 wlis win

davinaxe da viwinaswarmetyvele da TandaTan

yvelaferi sruldeba.

icodeT, TiToeuli qarTvelis ojaxSi xvavi

da baraqa daisadgurebs. aRar iqneba Sim-

Sili da arc cremlebi Tqvens saxeebze.

merwmuneT, es simarTlea da amas ara marto

Tqven, aramed mTeli msoflio ixilavs. radgan

me mraval saxelmwifoze vwinaswarmetyveleb,

maTTvisac Zalze sainetersoa es.

male gamova wigni _ uzarmazari mniSvnelobis

wigni. es aris mTliani energia da

saswauli, romelic mudam iarsebebs saukuneebis

ganmavlobaSi; wigni, romelic mogacilebT

yvela gaWirvebasa da uimedobas; wigni,

romelic sicocxles gaCuqebT mZime wuTebSi,

did Zalas gagrZnobinebT da yovelgvar

winaRobas dagaZlevinebT. adamiano, roca xelSi

aiReb wigns, amas umal mixvdebi. es aris

sruli simarTle. sanTel-sakmeveli Tavis gzas

ar kargavs. es asea da morCa!

winaswarmetyveleba Zalian saTuTi

Temaa da icodeT, vinc CvenTan

iTamaSa, waago!!! rasac vambob, es

sruli simarTlea.

ar gamovricxav da vityvi, rom SeiZleba

bevrma ver SeiZinos wigni. igi mxolod

ganaTlebuli, sufTa sulis mqone adamianebis

xelSi moxvdeba. rasac axla vwer, es

winaswarmetyvelebaa wignTan dakavSirebiT.

modis dro, roca msoflios

Zalian bevri kiTxva eqneba da

maT mxolod Cemi wigni _

qarTveli winaswarmetyveli lela

kakulia upasuxebs.

daimaxsovreT: mxolod Cven SegviZlia pasuxi

gavceT yvelas yvelaferze. magaliTad,

saqarTvelos natoSi integracia davinaxe da

1992 wels davwere kidec gazeTebSi, Jurnal-

Sic da wignSic. dRes mTeli saqarTvelo

natosa da amerikis yvirilSia. zogs moswons

es, zogs _ ara, zogi am sakiTxs

sxvadasxva TemisTvis iyenebs. mokled, yvela

brunvaSi atrialeben.

Cemo sayvarelo qarTvelebo, me getyviT,

rasac vxedav. gaixseneT 1992 wlis 18 dekembris

winaswarmetyveleba, rom nato gvaiaraRebs,

Zlierdeba qarTuli jari, saqarTvelos

teritoria daculia, idgmeba raketebi da

a.S. da a.S. me iqve viwinaswarmetyvele, rom

qarTveli eri ar daemsgavseba evropelsa da

amerikels. qarTuli kultura, zne, wesebi

da Cveulebebi, riTac varT ganTqmulni, ki

ar ikargeba, aramed vibrunebT. qarTveli ar

gadaSendeba, vinarCunebT qarTul saxes. na-

toSi SevalT Tu kidev imis iqiT, Cven

arafers vkargavT, arafers!

nel-nela, Cemo sayvarelo qarTvelebo,

yvelaferi ufro daixveweba da dalagdeba,

dasufTavdeba Cveni qveyana. is ritmi, rasac

hqvia demokratiuli ganviTareba, ar unda

davkargoT arc evropasTan da arc amerikasTan

mimarTebaSi. unda vibrZoloT Cveni qveynis

mTlianobisTvis. nu ikiTxavT, Cven moveswrebiTo?

getyviT, rom bevr sikeTes moeswrebiT.

giWirT, icis ufalma, magram

es bewvis xidi gasavlelia da am

xids mTeli saqarTvelo gaivlis

kosmosis daxmarebiT, ra Tqma

unda.

vxedav da geubnebiT: ar miatovoT saku-

Tari miwebi soflebSi; ufro metic: ar

gayidoT, imitom, rom vxedav, Tqvenive miwebi

gadagarCenT momavalSi. ar gayidoT!

adrec aRvniSne, rom dacarielebuli soflebi

isev gaivseba xalxiT.

icodeT, rogorc naTqvamia, sofeli Zlieria,

miwa gamogkvebavs, miwa Seginaxavs. rogorc

Cveni mama-papani amuSavebdnen miwas, rogorc

isini Sromobdnen, ise iSromeT da naxavT,

rogor mosavalsac moimkiT. mTavaria, ar

izarmacoT!!!! nu miscemT sxvebs Tqvens miwaze

gamdidrebis saSualebas. iSromeT TviTon,

SeqmeniT TviTon!

vin arian Cinelebi? vin arian Turqebi da

sxvani? mouare Sens miwas da Seunaxe Sens

Svilebs. Zalian kargad xvdebiT, rasac vambob!!!

momavalSi asec moxdeba, vxedav, amin!

4 dekemberi.

momavalSi saqarTvelo daibrunebs yvela

im teritorias, romlebic Cvenma `Zvirfasma

da sayvarelma~ ruseTma CamogvaWra, wagvarTva

da dagvanawevra. me minda xmamaRla ganvacxado

da kidev erTxel aRvniSno is Cveni

qarTuli teritoriebi, romlebsac saqarTvelo

daibrunebs momavalSi. me amas vxedav da

istoriuladac asea, qarTvelebo.

1. afxazeTi da samaCablo;

2. jiqeTi (soWi);

3. dvaleTi (Crdilo oseTSi);

4. Teberda (CrdiloeT kavkasia, yaraCai-

CerqezeTis avtonomiuri olqi. ruseTi);

5. qluxori;

6. saingilo (azerbaijani);

7. iori (mtkvris SuamdinareTi mingeCau

ramde, azerbaijani);

8. lore (stefanavan-kirovokani, somxeTi);

9. arTvinis olqi;

10. ardaganis olqi (TurqeTi, istoriuli

tao-klarjeTi);

11. arzrumis olqis Crdilo nawili (TurqeTi,

speri, basiani, TorTomi);

12. aRmosavleT lazeTi (sofa, rize, Wanixi);

13. dasavleT lazeTi (trapizonamde).

ai, mTeli Cemi samSoblo, Cemi

saqarTvelo. iq, im dakargul

miwebSi qarTuli sulia

Camarxuli, magram sunTqavs da

cocxlobs da vxedav, momavalSi

vibrunebT Cvens saqarTvelos _

mTlian saqarTvelos

procentiT.

asi

adrec aRvniSne: Cven yovelTvis gvanawevrebdnen,

magram yovelTvis verTiandebodiT.

momavalSic ase moxdeba.

isic vici, rom Cems winaswarmetyvelebebs

kiTxuloben da zeimobs mTeli saqarTvelo

_ zeimobs gaerTianebas.

ai, es aris Cemi saqarTvelo _ erTiani,

demokratiuli, Zlieri evropuli saxelmwifo

mravali, anu 30 milioni qarTveliT! es is

patrioti qarTvelebi arian, romlebic ucxo

xalxs fexs ar moakidebineben Cvens qarTul

miwaze!!!

TiToeuli qarTveli, vxedav, rom jariskacia,

icis brZola da Tuki saWiroa, mTeli

saqarTvelo jariskacad iqceva. ai es aris

(gagrZeleba gv. 9)


1998 weli, 10 seqtemberi,

dilis 11 saaTi, kojori.

ruseTi erT momentSi, vxedav, irans

daupirispirdeba, magram urTierTobebi

swrafad aRdgeba. ruseTs ar mowons iranis

samxedro politika da Sesworebebi Seaqvs,

ase vTqvaT. es did xmaurs gamoiwvevs,

vxedav.

lela kakulia

rusul-iranul siamtkbilobas Crdili miadga.

or `megobar~ saxelmwifos Soris bzari

iranuli birTvuli programis Taobaze miRebul

rezolucias mohyva. saqme isaa, rom Tu

kremli aqamde TavgamodebiT icavda iranis

birTvul programas da xels uSlida evropas

am muslimuri saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg

sanqciebis gamoyenebaSi, axla acxadebs, rom

mxars dauWers atomuri energetikis saerTa-

Soris saagentos (`magate~) sanqciebs da aRar

daicavs Teirans.

mahmud ahmedinejadma ruseTis gadawyvetileba,

diplomatiur enaze rom vTqvaT, kritikis

qar-cecxlSi gaatara. man kategoriulad uaryo

mtkicebulebebi imis Taobaze, TiTqos Teiranis

survili, aagos uranis gasamdidrebeli

kidev aTi qarxana, blefia.

`ra dros blefia. Cven mivaRwevT yvelafers,

rasac vambobT~. _ brZana ahmadinejadma.

iraneli eqspertebi fiqroben, rom maTi

qveynis xelmZRvanelebi gamomwvevad iqcevian.

maTi SefasebiT, Teiranis qmedeba ruseTs

ubiZgebs, Secvalos damokidebuleba iranis

islamuri respublikisadmi.

`ruseTma Secdoma dauSva. msoflioSi mimdinare

situaciebis miseuli Sefaseba ar

aris swori. maT warmodgena ar aqvT msoflios

dRevandel situaciaze~. _ ganacxada

prezidentma ahmadinejadma.

SegaxsenebT: atomuri energetikis saerTa-

Soriso saagentos mmarTvelTa sabWom 2009

wlis 27 noembers xmaTa umravlesobiT, ruseTis

CaTvliT, miiRo rezolucia, romelic kicxavda

irans uranis rigiT meore gamamdidrebeli

qarxnis mSeneblobis dawyebisTvis.

iranis mTavrobam ukve daavala erovnul

birTvul uwyebas, dauyovnebliv daiwyos xuTi

axali qarxnis mSenebloba, xolo danarCeni

xuTis Senebas ori Tvis ganmavlobaSi Seudges.

ahmadinejadma ganacxada, rom islamurma

respublikam weliwadSi 250-300 tona birTvuli

sawvavi unda awarmoos da daamata,

rom irani saerTod ar aris valdebuli,

angariSi abaros $`magates~ qarxnebis mSeneblobis

Taobaze manam, sanam qveyanaSi maTi agebisTvis

saWiro teqnologiebi ar Semova.

ahmadinejads miCnia, rom verc ruseTi da

verc sxva qveynebi, romelTa Sorisac arian

poloneTi, germania, safrangeTi da didi

britaneTi, ver aiZuleben irans, uari Tqvas

sakuTar birTvul programaze da saerTod

gamoricxa islamuri respublikis winaaRmdeg

rac rac ukve ukv

ukv

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`me ar mivcem ruseTs

putinis fexqveS gorialis

saSualebas. me gavamtyuneb

ruseTs, SevafurTxeb, Seuracxyofas

mivayeneb da yvelanairad

Sevecdebi, davaviwyebino

ruseTs es poza.

vusurveb ruseTs darCes gazis, navTobisa da

atomuri iaraRis gareSe. saubedurod, putinsa

da medvedevs jer kidev ar gasTavebiaT

gaRatakebuli ruseTis moqalaqeebisgan amoqaCuli

fuli, romliTac isini `fe-es-bes~

Statian provokatorebs inaxaven~.

valeria novodvorskaia.

raime saxis samxedro moqmedebebis dawyebis

SesaZlebloba: `Cven movkveTT nebismier TiTs,

romelic Seecdeba, Caxmaxs gamokras~.

ruseTis mecnierebaTa akademiis wevr-korespondentma

aleqsei arbatovma brZana, rom

iranTan dakavSirebiT rusul politikaSi

seriozuli Zvra moxda. ‘iranma ruseTs daanaxa,

rom aramxolod ar afasebs mis mxardaWeras,

aramed saerTodac ar uwevs angariSs mis

interesebsa da valdebulebebs~.

ruseTi didi xnis ganmavlobaSi cdilobda,

daerwmunebina danarCeni msoflio, rom

iranis birTvuli programa ar atarebs saomar

xasiaTs, magram iranis xelmZRvanelobis bolodroindelma

gancxadebebma, rom isini minimumamde

daiyvanen `magatesTan~ TanamSromlobas

da kidev aT qarxanas aageben, sapirispiro

daamtkica: `ruseTi sasacilo mdgomareobaSi

aRmoCnda saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis winaSe~,

_ ganacxada arbatovma. _ `im saxelmwifoebis

winaSe, romelTa magivradac awarmoebda

molaparakebebs mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi.

aman ruseTi, ra Tqma unda, aRaSfoTa~.

rogorc Cans, irans naklebad aRelvebs sxva

saxelmwifoTa problemebi. mas sakuTari miznebi

aqvs da yvelafers akeTebs maT misaRwevad.

Teiranma isic ki ganacxada, rom islamuri

respublika saerTod gaemijneba birTvuli

iaraRis gauvrceleblobis xelSekrulebas da

`magates~ TanamSromlebs sakuTari birTvuli

obieqtebis inspeqtirebas aukrZalavs.

zemoT xsenebuli rezolucia iranis ukmayofilebis

erTaderTi mizezi ar aris,

Tumca isic birTvul programas ukavSirdeba.

Teirani rezoluciis miRebamde oriode kviriT

adre mkacrad afrTxilebda moskovs, keTili

eneba da Seesrulebina ori wlis win gaformebuli

xelSekruleba saraketo kompleqsebis

miwodebis Sesaxeb. iranis erovnuli usafrTxoebisa

da sagareo politikis saparlamento

komitetis Tavmjdomarem maSinve gaafrTxila

moskovi, rom Tu ruseTi ar Seasrulebda

nakisr valdebulebebs, or saxelmwifos

Soris urTierToba gafuWdeboda.

kontraqtis mixedviT, ruseTi valdebuli

iyo, miewodebina iranisTvis 1 miliardi

dolaris Rirebulebis haersawinaaRmdego

Tavdacvis xuTi sadivizio kompleqsi. iranma

ukve gadaixada winaswar gadasaxdeli Tanxa

da ukve regularul gadaxdebze gadavida,

magram, amis miuxedavad, ruseTma garigeba

`politikuri situaciis garkvevamde~ SeaCera.

saqme isaa, rom ruseTi israelisa da aSS-s

mxriv mZlavr zewolas ganicdida am kontraqtis

gamo.

1999 weli, 2 marti, dilis 12 saaTi,

Tbilisi.

afxazeTi saqarTveloa! momavalSi vxedav,

afsuebi da bevri sxva erovnebis

warmomadgenlebi qarTvelebad Caewerebian.

bevri ram Seicvleba saqarTvelos am

ZirZvel kuTxeSi.

2008 weli, 6 maisi.

imasac vxedav, rom afsuebs mxolod

qarTvelebi gadaarCenen.

2008 weli, 20 ivnisi.

diax, asea, afxazeTSi buzic ar gaWaWandeba.

turistebi ki ara, afsuebic garbian

SiSiT.

2008 weli, 3 ivlisi.

afsuebs ruseTi sZulT, radgan ician,

rom ruseTis xelqveiToba gamoiRebs im

nayofs, rom afxazeTSi (anu qarTul

miwaze) afsuebi gadaSendebian! dRes ukve

aRarc arian imdenni, ramdenic warsulSi

iyvnen.

lela kakulia

`prezidenti medvedevi

saubrobs modernizaciaze,

premieri putini ki `edinaia

rasias~ konservatizmze.

me amaSi seriozul Seusabamobas

vxedav.

prezidenti, premierisgan

gansxvavebiT, patiosnad

afasebs zogierT mwvave problemas, kerZod,

is saubrobs saxelmwifo korporaciis araefeqtur

muSaobaze, xolo mTavrobis meTauri

Cqmalavs am araefeqturobas~.

genadi

ziuganovi.

oriode kviris win samocma eTnikurma afxazma

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas qarTuli pasportebi

mosTxova. es faqti gaxda kidev erTi xiluli

dadastureba imisa, rom `Tavisufal,

damoukidebel afxazeTSi~ adgilobrivebs Zalian

cudad aqvT saqme. xom martivi logikaa, Tu

sadme Tavs kargad grZnob, aravin gaviwrovebs

da gawuxebs, Tanac, Tu es `sadme`

Seni samSobloa, arsad gaqcevaze ar fiqrob,

miT umetes, `sxva qveynis~ moqalaqeobaze.

am samoci afxazis pozicia aSkarad miu-

TiTebs ruseTis politikiT adgilobrivi

mosaxleobis masobriv ukmayofilebaze. dagveTanxmebiT,

eTnikuri afsuebis dRevandeli raodenobis

fonze, es cifri patara ar aris. miT

umetes, Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT, rom

jer-jerobiT yvela ukmayofilo ver bedavs

sakuTari ganwyobis Riad dafiqsirebas da

Semdgomi garTulebebis Tavidan asacileblad,

Cumad yofnas amjobinebs.

afxazeTis legitimuri mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris

gia baramias TqmiT, es pirveli

SemTxveva ar aris, roca afxazebi saqarTvelos

danarCen teritoriaze gadmosvlis survils

gamoTqvamen. manamde ukve xuTma ojaxma

miiRo TavSesafari engurs aqeT.

garda amisa, arseboben abiturientebi,

romlebmac skolebi soxumsa da gudauTaSi

daamTavres, aqvT rusuli atestatebi, magram

swavlis gangrZoba TbilisSi surT.

SeiZleba, vinmem isic Tqvas, am abiturientebis

survils, iswavlon saqarTveloSi, is

faqti ganapirobebs, rom qarTul umaRles

saswavleblebSi maTi Caricxvis SeRavaTiani

pirobebi arsebobso. magram aqve gacnobebT,

rom ruseTis umaRlesi saswavleblebi da

teqnikumebi aseve aweseben privilegiebs afxazeTidan

da `samxreT oseTidan~ Casuli abiturentebisTvis.

ase rom, danarCeni saqarTvelosken

am axalgazrdebis swrafva mxolod merkantiluri

interesebiT ar aixsneba.

ubralod, afsuebi ukve namdvilad xedaven,

rom namdvili okupanti _ es ruseTia da

swored isini uwyoben xels maTi, rogorc

eris gadaSenebas.

ukve yvelaze miamiti afsuasTvisac ki

aSkara gaxda, rom ruseTis gavlena afxazeTze

yoveldRiurad izrdeba. amas adgilobrivi

mosaxleoba aRiarebs da gamosavals

eZebs, rogorc SeuZlia, ise.

im faqts, rom ruseTi afxazeTs ipyrobs,

mxolod afxazeTis de-faqto xelisyufleba

ar eTanxmeba. `Cven ar gvaSfoTebs is, rom

ruseTi Tavisi geopolitikuri miznebisTvis

gviyenebs~. _ udardelad acxadebs baRafSi.

magram edardeba mosaxleobas, romlebsac

mSobliuri ena, praqtikulad, waarTves da

rusuliT Caunacvles, viTom damoukidebeli

saxelmwifos moqalaqis pasportis paralelurad

rusuli dokumenti SeaCeCes, `erovnuli~

valuta rusuli rubliT gadaufares,

`damoukidebeli~ samSoblos sazRvrebis damcvelTa

rigebi rusi mesazRvreebiT daukompleqtes,

(erTi afsuac ar datoves sazRvarze),

mianiWes rusuli satelefono indeqsebi

da ase Semdeg da ase Semdeg.

kidev erTi saintereso da mravlismetyveli

faqtia is, rom 2003 wlis aRweris

Tanaxmad, `saxelmwifos~ mosaxleobis raodenobam

215 aTasi Seadgina. aqedan, rogorc

Tavad baRafSi aRniSnavs, afxazia mxolod 93

aTasi, danarCenebi ki somxebi, rusebi da

qarTvelebi arian.

winaswar getyviT, rom es monacemebi namdvilad

ar migvaCnia sandod, piriqiT, darwmunebulebi

varT, rom is gadaWarbebulia.

magram mainc: davuSvaT, rom es monacemebi

2003 welsac sinamdviles Seesabameboda da

afsuebis raodenoba dResac, yvelaze Tamami

ocnebis pirobebSi, ramdenime aTeul aTass

Seadgens, gana 215 aTasi mosaxlis fonze 93

aTasi Zalze mokrZalebulad ar gamoiyureba?

viTom ra aqvs sasixarulo im saxelmwifos

prezidents, romlis mSobeli xalxi

`ruseTis dRevandeli xelisufleba

cdilobs aRadginos

`istoriuli samarTlianoba~,

oRond mxoloddamxolod

sabWoTa epoqis CarCoebSi.

amgvari manipulirebaSi kremlis

gegmebi gamosWvivis. isini

savsebiT ar scemen pativs

ruseTis istorias; isini cdiloben aRadginon

Cveni warsulis mxolod is nawili,

romelic surT, rom Cvens momavlad aqcion~.

aleqsandr padrabineki,

`eJednevni Jurnal~.

7


qveynis mosaxleobis naxevarsac ki(!!!) ver

iTvlis? miT umetes, rom dReisaTvis afsuebis

realuri raodenoba afxazeTSi katastrofuladaa

Semcirebuli: afsuebi sxvadasxva

mimarTulebiT garbian (sxvaTa Soris, Zalian

bevri gadavida TurqeTSi), samagierod, rusebi

imyareben fuZes zurmuxtovan sanapiroze.

ase magaliTad, dReisaTvis afxazeTSi sami

aTasi rusi jariskacia bazirebuli, xolo

momavali wlisTvis kidev 1 800 samxedros

Camoyvana igegmeba da es mxolod samxedro

pirebi. rac SeexebaT maT ojaxebsa da nacnob-megobrebs,

romlebsac didi siamovnebiT

iwveven afxazeTSi gamzadebul karmidamoebSi

dasasaxleblad, es kidev calke cifria.

marTalia, zusti statistika CvenTvis _

saqarTvelos mosaxleobisTvis jer-jerobiT

ucnobia, magram mTavari isaa, rom Tavad afsuebma

ician samwuxaro realoba _ problema,

romelsac veRarafriT Svelian, ubralod, gaurbian.

8

1993 weli, 5 agvisto dRis 12 saaTi.

iaponia katastrofulad daupirispirdeba

ruseTs. sxva mniSvnelovani sakiTxi

iaponias ar Seawuxebs, garda Tavisi miwebis

dabrunebisa da es sakiTxi Zalian

mwvaved dadgeba. igi pirdapir, politikurad

uxeS laSqrobas moawyobs ruse-

Tis winaaRmdeg.

2008 weli, 8 marti.

vxedav, iaponia ruseTTan isev iwyebs

davas kunZulebTan dakavSirebiT, didi

garCevebi ganaxldeba. momavalSi vxedav,

ruseTi daTmobs im kunZulebs, romlebic

iaponias ekuTvnoda. es iaponiis miwebia.

didi politikuri brZolebi wava. amerika

iaponiis mxares ikavebs, evropa ki Sualeds

_ arc erTis mxares ar iWers!

2009 weli, 14 ivnisi, Tbilisi

iaponia arafriT ar daixevs ukan.

Tundac omiT, iaponia mainc daibrunebs

warTmeul miwebs.

2009 weli, 16 ivnisi, Tbilisi.

iaponia iwyebs did politikur TamaSs.

`sakuTari miwebis dabruneba Tundac omis

fasad!~ _ ai, maTi devizi. diax, Tundac

omis fasad!

2009 weli, 17 noemberi, Tbilisi.

ruseTs yvela mosTxovs Tavis miwebs.

iaponia ruseTs mosTxovs kurilis kunZulebs,

mosTxovs Zalian mkacrad. amas male

ixilavs mTeli msoflio.

lela kakulia

2009 wlis ivnisSi iaponiis parlamentis qveda

palatam ruseTis faqtobriv gamgeblobaSi

arsebul samxreT kurulis ramdenime kunZulze

iaponiis suvereniteti daamtkica. maSin amiT

kanonproeqti ZalaSi Sevida. es iyo pirveli

SemTxveva, rodesac iaponur kanonmdeblobaSi

samxreT kurilis kunZulebi moixsenies terminiT

`iaponiis ZirZveli teritoriebi~.

gavida ramdenime Tve da axla ukve iaponiis

parlamentis zeda palatam daamtkica saboloo

dokumenti, romelic samxreT kurilebs `ruse-

Tis mier ukanonod okupirebulad~ acxadebs.

ruseTisadmi teritoriul pretenziebs iaponiis

absoluturad yvela politikuri partia uWers

mxars _ rogorc mmarTveli, ise opoziciuri.

radikaluri pozicia uWiravs komunistur

partias, romelic aramxolod samxreT,

aramed CrdiloeT kurilis kunZulebis dabrunebasac

iTxovs. amis garda, gaCnda informacia,

rom iaponelebi kidev ufro Sors

apireben wasvlas da pretenziebis nusxaSi samxreT

saxalinis CarTvasac ar gamoricxaven.

moskovis damokidebuleba am sakiTxisadmi,

ra Tqma unda, mkveTrad uaryofiTia. kremli

amtkicebs, rom samxreT kurilis kunZulebi,

meore msoflio omis Sedegebis gaTvaliswinebiT,

sabWoTa kavSirs gadaeca, romlis

samarTalmemkvidrecaa ruseTi. amitom ruse-

Tis suvereniteti kurilis kunZulebze, romelic

Sesabamisi saerTaSoriso samarTlis mixedvi-

Taa gaformebuli, eWvSeutanelia.

situacia or modave saxelmwifos Soris

imdenad daiZaba, rom TiTqmis aRarcerT

eqsperts ar sjera, rom konfliqti mSvidobianad

gadaiWreba. piriqiT, iaponiis mzardi

militarizacia pirdapiri miniSnebaa imaze,

rom oficialuri tokio ukve mzadaa omisTvis

da iaponelebis mTavari samizne mxolod

saxalini da kurilebi ar iqneba.

rogorc eqspertebi amtkiceben, arsebobs

mTeli rigi faqtebi imisa, rom tokio omisaTvis

emzadeba. `iaponia erTaderTi qveyanaa

msoflioSi, romelmac birTvuli dabombva

gadaitana da mxolod mas aqvs myari

fsiqologiuri rwmena imisa, rom omi, ra

Tqma unda, saSiSia, magram ara sasikvdilo,

anu misi gadatana SeiZleba. iaponelebs es

rwmena realuri istoriuli gamocdilebiT

aqvT gamyarebuli~. _ ambobs rusi eqsperti

sergei pereslegini.

anu, sxva sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, sxva

saxelmwifoebisgan gansxvavebiT, romlebic

birTvuli omis xsenebazec ki SiSiT caxcaxeben,

iaponiisTvis es sulac ar aris Semakavebeli

faqtori.

iaponia realurad afasebs am Tavis mTavar

kozirs da miuxedavad imisa, rom konstituciiT

aqvT gamyarebuli pacifizmis principi,

ukve ramdenime welia emzadeba omisTvis.

iaponiis floti yvelaze mZlavri flotia

wynar okeaneSi, aRaras vambobT imaze, rom

qvyana or sazRvao aviamzids flobs, romelTagan

erTi simZlavriT amerikuls aWarbebs.

mokled rom vTqvaT, rogorc eqspertebi

miiCneven, iaponias omis gza aqvs arCeuli.

rac Seexeba mxardamWerebsa da mowinaaRmdegeebs,

aq poziciebi aseTia: aSS mxars

uWers iaponias kurilis kunZulebis dabrunebis

sakiTxSi, xolo evropa, evropac

moiTxovs ruseTisgan kurilis kunZulebis

dabrunebas da saTanado rezoluciac miRebuli

aqvs, Tumca, rogorc evroparlamentis

saerTaSoriso saqmeTa komitetis wevrma

ianuS oniSkeviCma ganacxada, `rezolucia aravis

arafers ar avaldebulebs. es ubralod evro-

parlamentis mosazrebaa~. es ki, popularul

da gasageb enaze rom vTqvaT, sxva araferia,

Tu ara nawinaswarmetyvelebi evropuli Sualeduri

pozicia.

2008 weli, 12 aprili.

mecineba. yvela kiTxulobs Cumad

winaswarmetyvelebebs, magram azrs malaven.

roca politologebis daulegebel

saubrebs vusmen, romlebic, ver gaigeb,

movlenebs saidan aSuqeben, mecineba!

2008 weli, 17 ivnisi.

Cveni winaswarmetyvelebebis miTvisebas

ganagrZoben! ver gaiges, rom kosmosidan

wamosuli informaciebi xalxs ekuTvnis

da ara zogierT viTom politikoss an

politologs!

2008 weli, 3 noemberi.

uvici politikosebiTa da gansakuTrebiT

uvici politologebiTaa savse qveyana.

bevr rames vxedav. vxedav, Tu ra

sulisa da warsulis adamianebi arian

isini, ubralod, ar minda Cemi gazeTi

Seuracxvyo maTi biografiebiT...

2009 weli, 29 ianvari, Tbilisi.

saqarTvelos ubedureba imaSia, rom

yvela politikosi gaxda, visac ar daezara,

politologebze aRarc vlaparakob. geSinodeT

kosmosis, Tqveni uazro analizebiT

xalxs da qveyanas rom aforiaqebT.

aseTia politikosebisa da politologebis

oTxmoci procenti.*

Cven gazeTsa da winaswarmetyvelebebs

yvela ebrZvis, yvela! gansakuTrebiT, vi-

Tom politikos-politologebi. magram

icodeT, rom uflis sityvebTan brZolas

ar girCevT. ar arsebobs, vinmem gaimarjvos

am brZolaSi!

2009 weli, 4 aprili.

saqarTvelos sWirdeba ganaTlebuli,

moazrovne axalgazrda politikos-analitikosebi,

maTi swori analizi xalxs

Tvalebs auxels, swor mimarTulebas

udidesi mniSvneloba aqvs qveynisa da

xalxisTvis. aba, SexedeT, dRes analizebi

ki ar keTdeba, lanZRva, qiliki da yvelafris

mimarT uaryofa ismis mxolod.

eseni ar arian is politologebi, vinc

qarTvel xalxs Wirdeba. isini masxarad

gvigdeben.

* * *

saqarTvelo unda gaiwmindos komunisturi

reJimis narCenebisgan! im warsulis

narCenebisgan, rac da vinc xels uSlian

saqarTvelos ganviTarebasa da winsvlaSi!

2009 weli, 27 maisi.

vxedav institutebs, sadac politikosebi

aRizrdebian. usazRvrod mixaria,

vinaidan es Zalian mniSvnelovania Cemi

xalxisa da qveynisTvis. quCis politikosoba

damTavrdeba Cem saqarTveloSi. yvela

Tavis adgils monaxavs da ase advilad

veRar dairqmeven saxels _ politologi!~

lela kakulia

redaqcias am bolo dros uzomod momravlebul

qarTvel politologebsa da politikis

eqspertebze am rubrikaSi komentari

arasdros gaukeTebia, miuxedavad imisa, rom

saTqmel-sakomentaroc yovelTvis mravlad gvqonda

da mwared gasakilic bevri gveguleboda. Cven

mxolod imas gacnobdiT, rasac qalbatoni

lela winaswarmetyvelebda maTze, sxva danar-

Cenisgan Tavs vikavebdiT erTi martivi mizezis

gamo: velodebodiT dros, roca saqarTvelos

mosaxleoba xmamaRla alaparakdeboda am Temaze

da sakuTar mosazrebas gamoTqvamda wina saukunidan

gadmoyolil Tu dRes aRmocenebul

eqspertebze; riTac, Sesabamisad, dadasturdeboda

winaswarmetyvelebis asruleba.

marTalia, qarTveli politologebis Sefaseba

am ramdenime Tvis win ukve iTava

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`Cven vmxecdebiT, batonebo,

Tumca es meore rigis

sakiTxia; pirveli rigisa ki

is gaxlavT, rom Cven vTayvandebiT...

sazogadoebrivi

aRqmis matrica sul zemoT

programirdeba.

adamianis gaTelva da mis

Seulaxav saxelze fexebis gawmenda _ es

marTvis stilia, romelsac ager ukve aT

welze metia piradad nergavs vladimer

putini...~

vladimer

nadeini.

`aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi afxazeTma dakarga

mosaxleobis mexuTedi, magram ara bunebrivi

sikvdilianobiT, aramed maTi gasaxlebiT.

adamianebi, gnebavT qarTvelebi, gnebavT

_ afxazebi, iZulebulebi arian, danarCen

saqarTveloSi gadabargdnen...

axali kedlis ageba afxazeTisa da samxreT

oseTis respublikebSi mimdinareobs, romlebic

2008 wlis agvistos omis Semdeg defaqto

damoukideblebi gaxdnen. am kedlebma

es respublikebi, aseve daRestani da CeCneTi

saqarTvelosgan izolaciaSi moaqcia da ruseTTan

daaaxlova~.

selin lusato, filosofosi.

`wels zamTarSi evropas

kvlav sWirdeba ruse-

Tis gazi. magram ar dagaviwydeT,

rom ruseTs

evropuli kompaniebi kidev

ufro metad sWirdeba da

Tanac, aramxolod damkveTebis

saxiT, aramed saku-

Tari qveynis ekonomikis

modernizebisaTvisac~.

adam rotfeldi.

`natos brZenTa

sabWos~ wevri,

profesori.


qarTulma internet-forumma, magram, vinaidan

redaqcia undoblobiTa da eWviT ekideba

forumebis anonimi momxmareblebis obieqturobas,

maT mosazrebebze dayrdnoba ar isurva.

amis Semdeg redaqciis TanamSromlebma mosaxleobis

erTgvari gamokiTxvac Caatares da

gaarkvies, rom maTi uudidesi nawili araTu

ar endoba politologebisa da eqspertebis

mosazreba-prognozebs, arc ki usmenen maT.

isini ki, vinc SigadaSig mainc adevneben

Tvalyurs maT gamosvlebs ubralo interesidan

Tu saqmianobidan gamomdinare, xSirad

rekaven CvenTan, redaqciaSi da vin _ siciliT,

vin _ aRSfoTebiT, gvauwyeben xolme,

amadaam politologma ise urcxvad gadaamRera

qalbatoni lelas winaswarmetyveleba Taviseburi

interpretaciiT, gegoneba Zalian didxans

iWylita tvini WeSmaritebis ZiebaSio.

raRa dagimaloT, Cvenc mSvenivrad viyenebT

mkiTxvelebis `daxmarebas~ da miTiTebul

gamocemasa Tu eTerSi gasul `polit-Sedevrebs~

erTad vuyriT Tavs da vinaxavT. `guli

gvigrZnobs~, gamogvadgeba.

rac Seexeba sababs, romelmac dRes am

Temaze sasaubrod gangvawyo, es `jorjian

Taimsis~ internet-gamocemaSi gamoqveynebuli

eka robaqiZis werili gaxlavT, saTauriT

`eqspertomaniam saqarTvelo politikurekonomikur

CixSi Seiyvana~. publikacia imdenad

iyo saintereso, ramdenadac Tavad eqspertebi

da politologebi saubroben politologiaze,

rogorc mecnierebaze da aseve

erTmaneTzec (aqve davZenT, rom redaqcia

amjeradac maqsimalurad ikavebs Tavs saku-

Tari komentarisgan da mxolod faqtebis

konstataciiT Semoifargleba).

politolog gulbaaT

rcxilaZis

ganmartebiT, politikis

eqspertad

wodebis ufleba

mxolod im adamians

aqvs, romel-

gulbaaT

rcxilaZe

sac zedmiwevniT

aqvs Seswavlili

sociologia,

filosofia,

iurisprudencia, istoria, kulturologia da

geografia. Tumca iqve dasZens, rom `Cvens

realobaSi, samwuxarod, araTu am disciplinebis

erTobliv mcodneebad ver gvevlinebian

eqspertebi, aramed safuZvlianad

verc erT maTganSi ver erkvevian.

dRes arsebobs, egreT wodebuli, telepolitologTa

erTi jgufi, romelTaTvis

televiziebis kari mudam gaxsnilia, danarCenebisTvis

ki _ daxuruli. mimdinareobs am

fsevdoeqspertTa gapiareba, raTa maT, Tavis

mxriv, xelisufleba apiaron. diplomebsa da

gamoqveynebul naSromTa siaSi maT didi deficiti

aqvT. arc

disertaciebi, arc

naSromebi da arc

wignebi maTi avtorobiT

ar Seqmnila.

magaliTad, gia

nodias 80-ian wleb-

Si sakandidato

marqsistul motivebze

aqvs daculi,

romlis mecnieruli

Rirebuleba mar-

Tlac nulis tolia,

Tumca raRac

mainc aqvs dawerili.

dRes Cven

eqspertebi ki ara,

sityvebis maraxuneblebi ufro gvyavs~.

gia

nodia

Znelia, ar daeTanxmo baton gulbaaTs

imaSi, rom eqsperti aucileblad unda iyos

Rrmad ganswavluli mis mier CamoTvlil

mecnierebebSi. ufro metic, politologs

gamudmebiT unda edos TiTi planetis pulsze,

anu unda iyos yoveldRiuri movlenebis

kursSi da Seswevdes unari, istoriuli

gamocdilebis gaTvaliswinebiT, axali SemoTavazebebis,

realobis fonze gaakeTos Rrma

da safuZvliani analizi situaciisa. aRarafers

vambobT imaze, rom unda iyos mousyidveli,

patiosani da romelime jgufisa Tu qveynis

intresebidan gamomdinare, gasamrjelos fasad

ar unda akeTebdes iseT prognozebs,

romlebic gamiznuladaa mimarTuli xalxis

depresiaSi Cayrisa da daTrgunvisaken.

uf! davwere es da axlaRa mivxvdi, raoden

Znelia namdvili eqspertoba da raoden niWieri

_ gamorCeulad niWieri da Sromismoyvare

unda iyos adamiani, rom es yvelaferi moaxerxos.

Znelia da amitomac arian Zalian cotani,

imdenad cotani, rom TiTqmis arc arian.

ai, magaliTad,

eqspert nana devdarians

`jorjian TaimsisTvis~`maRalkvalificiurieqspertebi~

CamouTvlia,

romelTa Soris erTerTi

`sapatio adgili~

soso cincaZes

ukavia: `soso cincaZe,

romelsac adre,

sabWoTa kavSiris

dros, saerTaSoriso

mimomxilveli erqva,

ver gavige, rodis

ityueba _ roca

ruseTs aqebda Tu axla, roca ruseTs aZagebs

da amerikas gaiZaxis?

...aqaur eqspertebs an pro-dasavluri orientacia

aqvT, an pro-amerikuli, an kidev pronatouri.

danarCenis ki azrze ar arian. televiziebSic

iseT gancxadebebs akeTeben, eqspertis

daskvnis meti yvelaferia. werilobiT daskvniT

dokumentebze xom saubaric zedmetia...~

`saerTaSoriso mimomxilvels~ soso cincaZes

ki JurnalistisTvis uTqvams... Tumca,

sanam amas gamcnobT, qalbatoni nana devdarianis

kiTxvas minda vupasuxo _ mokled da

konkretulad: qalbatono nana, sabWoTa kav-

Siris dros ityueboda yvela politikuri

mimomxilveli da bevri maTgani dResac ityueba.

oRond sxvaoba isaa, rom sabWoel `bnel da

gamousvlel xalxs~ maTi ejera. vinaidan

informaciis miRebis sxva gzebi, praqtikulad,

ar arsebobda, rasac saerTaSoriso

mimomxilvelebi CagvZaxodnen, imas vismendiT

da vijerebdiT; axla ki, radgan ucxoeTis

gzebic gavtkepneT da internetic SesaniSnavad

aviTviseT, msoflioSi mimdinare procesebsac

vadevnebT Tvalyurs da sakuTari azric

gvaqvs yvelaferze, `komunisturma narCenebma~

fasi dakarges! Tumca, ara mxolod maT...

mokled, `saerTaSoriso mimomxilvels~ soso

cincaZes Jurnalistis

kiTxvaze ase-

Ti pasuxi gaucia:

`dRes endokrinologi,

santeqnikosi Tu

mSenebeli yvela

eqspertobas ibralebs.

oTxi Tu

xuTi eqspertTa

klubia da arc

erTs ar vicnob.

eqspertTa arasamTavrobo

klubebs

ki supersamTavrobos

veZaxi...

axla modaSi

uwignuri eqspertebia. gavige, vinme barnovic

eqsperti gamxdara. kaci profesias rom samjer

gamoicvlis, rogori eqsperti unda gaxdes?

me, romelic Tavs mecniers vuwodeb, aseT

eqsperts kolegad namdvilad ver miviCnev~.

zemoT SegpirdiT, rom sakuTari komentarisgan

Tavs maqsimalurad SevikavebdiT, amitom

amjerad Cvenis mxriv aq aRarafers davamatebT.

vfiqrobT, suraTi isedac naTelia.

2009 weli, 26 noemberi.

amonaridi interviudan:

`osebi ijiuteben, ivaWreben, magram mainc

gaaTavisufleben datyvevebul tirZnisel

bavSvebs~.

lela kakulia

dekembris dasawyisSi evrokomisris, Tomas

hamarbergis vizitma cxinvalSi dakavebuli

mozardebis gaTavisuflebis moTxovniT, is

Sedegi gamoiRo, rom maSin ori mozardi,

asakiT danarCenebze umcrosebi, levan xmiadaSvili

da viqtor buCukuri qarTul mxares

gadmosces. danarCeni oris _ aleko cabaZisa

da giorgi romelaSvilis gasaTavisufleblad

ki marTlac rom didi vaWroba gaimarTa:

ori bavSvis sanacvlod, cxinvali datyvevebuli

osebis, gavrcelebuli informaciiT, `boevikebis~

gaTavisuflebas iTxovda.

Tumca es informacia, Tavad `prezidentma~

kokoiTim uaryo da ganacxada: `Cven hamarbergs

yovelgvari pirobis gareSe daaxloebiT

170 adamiani gadaveciT. Cven ar wamogviyenebia

raime piroba _ gacvla yvela

yvelaze an sxva...~

sainteresoa, maS ratom acxadebda hamarbergis

saqarTvelodan gamgzavrebis Semdeg `humanurobis

etaloni~ kokoiTi, danarCenebis gaTavisufleba

azradac

ar momsvlia da arc

gavaTavisuflebo?

ratom, ra mizeziTa

da mizniT ayovnebda

danapirebis Sesrulebas?

marTalia,

didi Wkua-gonebis

patroni ver aris,

magram davijeroT,

imdensac ver xvdeboda,

rom am saqmes

Sua gzaSi aravin miatovebda

da mas

kvlav mosTxovdnen

patimrebis gamoSvebas?

aq pasuxi erTia: xvdeboda, magram vaWrobda.

da kidev erTi: kokoiTim ganacxada, hamarbergs

170 adamiani gadaveciTo.

ki, magram, sad aris es xalxi? ratom aravin

arafers gvamcnobs maT Sesaxeb? da sul, sul

bolos, informacia, romelic 19 dekembris

dilas amovikiTxeT sainformacio saagentos

`faqtnius.ge~ veb-saitze: `dRes, Tbilisis droiT

10 saaTze, cxinvalSi zurab noRaideli eduard

kokoiTis Sexvda. Sexvedris mTavari mizani

tirZniseli mozardebis gaTavisufleba iyo.

Sexvedra warmatebulad dasrulda, ris Sedegadac,

zurab noRaideli ukan or tirZnisel

mozardTan _ buCukurTan da xmiadaSvilTan

da 5 Tvis win dakavebul 16 wlis gogita

arCvaZesTan erTad brundeba~.

veRar gavigeT, vis SevZaxoT `yoCaR!~ da vis

gadavuxadoT madloba _ hamarbergs Tu noRaidels?

an osebma vis gauwies angariSi _ evrokomisars

Tu yofil premiers? an saerTod: Tavad

osebma miiRes mozardebis gaTavisuflebis gadawyvetilebam,

Tu `ufrosma Zmam~ urCia da ukarnaxa?

mokled, bevri kiTxva gaCnda, Zalian bevri.

vatyobT, aq raRac ise ver aris. amitom

situaciaSi gasarkvevad am kiTxvebs aucileblad

davusvamT interviuSi qalbaton lelas

da pasuxebsac SemogTavazebT.

2007 weli, 21 seqtemberi.

rac Seexeba soWis olimpiadas, ruse-

Tis Canafiqri ar ganxorcieldeba ise,

rogorc maT surT. bevri Tu cota, magram

sportsmenebi ar Camovlen. `saSiSi

saomari mdgomareobaa!~ _ aseT informacias

miiReben

2008 weli, 8 aprili.

vimeoreb, soWis olimpiadazec axmaurdeba

kvlav evropa: `iqve, gverdiT, afxazeTSi

rom didi konfliqtia?..~ da amas

mohyveba mTeli serialebi.

2008 weli, 10 aprili, Tbilisi.

vxedav gudauTaSi ori Zalian seriozuli

terori, anu didi afeTqeba iqneba, aseve

zed soWis sazRvarTan da pasuxi igivea:

`banditebi daTareSoben, batono!~ ufro ukeTess

vxedav: abraleben afsuebs, raTa provokacia

gamoiwvion da omi gaaCaRon. TviTon evropa-amerikis

azria da amas ruseTi ver SeewinaaRmdegeba.

ra uyon soWis olimpiadas?

Tavze emsxvrevaT yvelaferi.

2008 weli, 18 dekemberi, Tbilisi.

vxedav teraqtebis serialebs! anu teraqtebis

gagrZelebebs afxazeTsa da sama-

CabloSi. gansakuTrebiT, soWia, vxedav,

mizanSi amoRebuli. soWis teraqtebi kiTxvis

niSans tovebs olimpiadasTan mimarTeba-

Si. ruseTis mTavroba amas ver SeaCerebs.

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`me erTi ram maSfoTebs

da amas vimeorebdi

da kvlavac gavimeoreb:

putinma gadawyvita

dabrundes da

saamisod yvelafers gaakeTebs...

amitom medvedevs Tavisi

reformebisTvis dro

mxolod 2012 wlamde aqvs.

aq araferia piraduli _ es ubralod

saprezidento biznesia~.

matvei

ganapolski.

nana

devdariani

andro

barnovi

`ruseTis samxedro sazRvao

floti kritikul mdgomareobaSia.

Camowerilia sazRvao

xomaldebis, wyalqveSa navebisa

da sabrZolo TviTmfrinavebis

80-85 procenti. agebiT

ki mxolod erTi sazRvao

xomaldisa da erTi dizelze

momuSave wyalqveSa navis ageba

igegmeba. flotebSi 30-35 xomaldi, kateri

da wyalqveSa navi darCa. samxedro sazRvao

flotSi saerTod ar arsebobs damrtymeli

aviacia, arada oTxi sazRvao aviamzidi divizia

arsebobda. axla flotSi mzadyofnaSia

mxolod 129 safreni aparati. es ZiriTadad

Tomas

hamerbergi

samxedro-satransporto aviaciaa, romelic

sameTauro Semadgenlobis gadayvanasa da

ramdenime aTeuli navsawinaaRmdego vertmfrenis

gadatanas emsaxureba.

arsebuli Zala ar iZleva saSualebas, daigegmos

da Catardes Tundac erTi im xuTi operaciidan,

romlis Catarebac nebismier flots unda

SeeZlos: mtris ganadgureba, obieqtis moZebna

da gauvnebelyofa, mowinaaRmdegis komunikaciebis

wyobidan gamoyvana, sakuTari Tavis dacva

da operatiuli Semadgenlobis gadasxma.

natos ki saswaulebi aqvs _ Tqven verc

ki warmoidgenT, iseTi~.

vladimir selivanovi,

admirali.

9


sadac ar unda idges rusuli jari, amas

mniSvneloba ar aqvs.

2009 weli, 7 ianvari, ureki, qriste-

Soba, dilis 6 saaTi.

soWSi vxedav afeTqebebs, terorebs.

ruseTis mxridan afxazeTis damoukidebel

saxelmwifod aRiareba olimpiadamac ganapiroba,

aqaoda, soWis olimpiada saSiSi

araao! hoda, amitomac vxedav terorebs,

romelic olimpiadas CaSlis.

10

2009 weli, 18 ianvari, ureki.

arc soWs daadgeba kargi dRe. vxedav

seriozul teraqtebs da msoflio isev

alaparakdeba, rom soWSi ar SeiZleba olimpiadis

Catareba. am droisTvis dasavleTi

kargad aris gamwarebuli rusebisgan da

vxedav, didi siamovnebiT ambobs uars.

lelAAa kakulia

rogorc nawinaswarmetyvelebi iyo, soWis

zamTris olimpiadis Tema marTlac aitaca msofliom.

gavleniani da avtoritetuli dasavluri

media xSirad wers vladimer putinis usayvarlesi

proeqtis _ 2014 wlis olimpiadis

Sesaxeb; oRond ara kargs da ara saimedos.

magaliTad, 7 dekembers gazeTSi `gardiani~

soWis olimpiadis giganturi problemebis

Sesaxeb, daibeWda werili saTauriT `soWis

olimpiadis gamowveva~, romlis avtoric gaxlavT

frederik bernasi.

mimoixilavs ra ara mxolod olimpiadis

simbolikasTan dakavSirebuli referendumis

sakiTxs, saqarTvelo-ruseTs Soris arsebul

informaciul oms da Tavad ruseTSi ganvi-

Tarebul movlenebs, avtori askvnis:

soWidan meamboxe afxazeTis sazRvramde sul

12 milia, romlis damoukidebloba mxolod

ruseTis federaciam, nikaraguam da venesuelam

aRiares (naurus gadawyvetileba mogvianebiT

gaxda cnobili. _ red.). ruseTi aSkarad

miiCnevs Tavs afxazeTis mbrZaneblad, magram

SesaZloa, afxazurma elitam moindomos

damoukideblobis xarisxis aweva, riTac, faqtobrivad,

ukbens im xels, romelic aWmevs.

garda amisa, mdgomareoba garTulebulia

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSic da amitom olimpiadis

usafrTxoebis sakiTxi aris erT-erTi umTavresi

problema misi organizatorebisTvis.

`konfliqtebiT pirTamde savse inguSeTi,

CeCneTi da daRestani soWis aRmosavleTiT

mdebareobs. cota xnis win, CeCenma separatistebma

moskovi-sanqt-peterburgis samgzavro

matareblis afeTqebaze pasuxismgebloba aiRes.

amitom soWis olimpiadis organizatorebis

mTavari sazrunavi usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofa

xdeba. miuxedavad imisa, rom ruseTi

irwmuneba, TiTqos situacia regionSi mis

kontrols eqvemdebareba, am droisTvis iq

realurad Zalze aramdgradi viTarebaa~.

bernasi ar gamoricxavs soWis olimpiadis-

Tvis boikotis gamocxadebasac. es idea SarSan

agvistos omis Semdeg wamoayena zbignev bze-

Jinskim da JurnalSi `Taimi~ gamoqveynebul

werilSi mouwoda dasavleTs, efiqraT am ideaze.

... msgavsi bedi ewia moskovis olimpiada-80s,

rodesac aSS-m da evropis samocze metma

saxelmwifom, avRaneTSi sabWoTa jarebis Se-

Wris gamo protestis niSnad, sakuTari gundebi

ar gauSves ruseTSi gamarTul olimpiadaze~.

_ wers bernasi. _ `rogorc cnobilia,

saqarTvelom ukve daiwyo ideis lobireba

da gamoricxuli ar aris, es kolosaluri

CaSla ganmeordes kidec~. _ askvnis igi.

rogorc irkveva, saerTaSoriso olimpiuri

komitetis aRiarebiT, soWi-2014 olimpiuri

TamaSebis istoriaSi erT-erTi urTulesi proeqtia.

komitetma iseTi qalaqi SearCia grandiozuli

sportuli RonisZiebisTvis, romelic

saerTod ar aris saamisod mzad. mTeli saqme

isaa, rom ruseTs soWSi aucilebeli infrastruqturis

80 procenti asaSenebeli aqvs,

fuli ki, gansakuTrebiT ekonomikuri krizisis

Semdeg, aRar gaaCnia. krizisamde Segulebulma

investorebma erTmaneTis miyolebiT ganacxades

uari mSeneblobis dafinansebaze da axla

soWSi, SeiZleba iTqvas, araferi xdeba _

mSeneblobebi, praqtikulad, SeCerebulia.

Tumca, finansuri problemebi araferia im

danakargebTan SedarebiT, rac uwyvetma teraqtebma

SeiZleba moutanos ruseTs. Cven adre

vwerdiT (da dawvrilebiT aq aRar ganvmeordebiT,

ubralod SegaxsenebT), rom soWSi

axlo warsulSi Zalian bevri teroristuli

aqti moxda, gansakuTrebiT, bolo ori wlis

ganmavlobaSi. amas erTvis teraqtebi afxazeTSi

da cxadi xdeba, rom regionSi namdvilad

ar aris mSvidoba, rac esoden esaWiroeba

olimpiadis Catarebas.

ase rom, ukve ikveTeba winaswarmetyvelebis

bolomde asrulebis konturebi da ruse-

Tis xelisufleba seriozul safiqralSia

Cavardnili: `ra uyon soWis olimpiadas?

Tavze emsxvrevaT yvelaferi~.

kosmosSi kosmosSi dro dro ar ar arsebobs!

arsebobs!

(2009 wels Cawerili winaswarmetyvelebebi)

(dasawyisi gv.3)

Tamarisa da daviT aRmaSeneblis Zlieri

saqarTvelo. ai amas hqvia mebrZoli suli

da gadamrCeneli qarTuli genisa! es aris

gagrZeleba saqarTvelosa da qarTvelebis

arsebobisa dedamiwaze! aseTia neba kosmosisa,

neba uflisa!

vxedav, momavalSi saqarTvelo Zalian mniSvnelovani

centria evropa-amerikisTvis yvela

mimarTulebiT. amitom mudmivi mxardaWera

aqvs saqarTvelos. xolo teritoriebis

mTlianoba didi qveynebis interesebSi Sedis

da amiT saqarTvelo yovelmxriv daculia.

xalxi muSaobs, sofelic Zlieria, Cveni

miwa gvinaxavs da sxvisi araferi Semoedineba.

glexic mdidaria. saWmelze, umuSevrobasa

da bevr sxva rameze aRar fiqrobs xalxi.

es yovelive warsulSi darCa cudi sizmariviT.

dRes es Zneli dasajerebelia, magram es

yvelaferi, rogorc sxva mravali winaswarmetyveleba

asrulda, ise asruldeba sityva-sityviT.

Tuki Cvens winaswarmetyvelebebs vinme Seexeba,

an moiparavs, vai mas!!! amis Taobaze

yovelTvis vafrTxileb xolme Sadimanebsa

da usaxurebs!

winaswarmetyvelebs mtrebi ar

hyavT, imitom rom isini

kosmosidan yovelTvis isjebian.

daimaxsovreT!!!

Cveni winaswarmetyveleba msoflios moivlis,

rogorc adre aRvniSne da veraviTari

Zala ver Secvlis verafers. winaswarmetyveleba

yovelTvis arsebobda da iarsebebs!!! es mxolod

namdvil, diax, namdvil morwmuneebsa

da uflis moyvarul adamianebs esmiT, aseve

nakiTx da ganaTlebul xalxs, romelnic

absoluturad zust Sefasebas aZleven am

yvelafers. xolo uvici da moTamaSe msaxiobi

yovelTvis daisjeba da ixoxebs Zirs

mTeli cxovreba.

saerTod, ubralod araferi xdeba. ubedurebas

Tavad itexs adamiani Tavs, vinaidan

Txoulobs imas, rac misi ar aris da arc

ekuTvnis, klavs Suri da ambicia. es misi _

adamianis dasasrulia, romelic damnaSaves

eZebs ara sakuTar TavSi, aramed sxvaSi da

zustad aq isjeba kosmosisgan. magram ra

ginda, ra?! mainc verafers xvdeba imitom,

rom esec misi bedisweraa. es exeba mefesac

da ubralo mokvdavsac. amin!

7 dekemberi.

ruseTis qmedebebi Sav zRvaze, viTom

frederik

bernasi

afxazeTis saxeliT, gamoiwvevs Savi zRvis

auzis qveynebis udides uaryofas. isini

xvdebian, rom ruseTis agresia ar exeba

marto saqarTvelos.

vxedav martiv rusul gegmas: mxolod

Zaladoba! winaaRmdegobas ki veravin gauwevs,

verc erTi saxelmwifo. evrosabWo imsjelebs,

ganixilavs, mere isev imsjelebs

da a.S. es agvistos omiviTaa _ dRemde

msjelobs evrosabWo, dRemde sTxovs ruseTs

valdebulebebis Sesrulebas, magram

ruseTisTvis es absoluturad arafers niSnavs.

ufro metic, ruseTi mTel msoflios

masxarad igdebs, ra Tqma unda, amerikasac

Tavisi Savkaniani prezidentianad.

frTxilad, rusebo! Tqven ukve iseT zonas

arRvevT, arc erTi saxelmwifo aRarafers

gapatiebT.

vxedav, did partizanul

moZraobas afxazeTSi,

Crdilokavkasieli `boevikebisa~

da partizanebis gaerTianebas.

isini Tavs esxmian rusul jars

da sastikad uswordebian. Zalian

bevrs amoxocaven.

afxazeTSi rusebi marto baRafSs, anu

separatistebis liders uyvars. mTeli afxazeTi

didi siZulviliTaa ganwyobili rusis

mimarT. rac ruseTma imuSava, raTa

afxazebs qarTvelebi SeZulebodaT, kosmosma

piriqiT Seubruna maT.

afxazebi _ afsuebi, sakuTar

beds dawyevlian da im dRes,

roca ruseTs daujeres da

TiTqmis dedaenad gaixades ena

rusuli; roca uRalates sakuTar

xalxs.

vxedav, mTeli afxazeTi ruseTis poligonadaa

gadaqceuli momavalSi!!! diax, erTiani

samxedro rusuli `garadokia~ _ qalaqia

didi!!!

vxedavdi da kvlav vxedav did

terorebs. rusul gemebs

erTmaneTis miyolebiT

aafeTqeben; aafeTqeben saxlebs,

im warTmeul saxlebs, romlebSic

axla rusebi cxovroben.

amas hqvia, did siyvaruls didi siZulvili

mosdevso!

momavalSi evropis qveynebis premier-ministrebs

gadaayeneben. zogs sasamarTlosac

gaumarTaven. es is xalxia, vinc ruseTis

premieris _ prezidentis megobrebi arian

da vinc ruseTis agresias mwvane Suqi aunTes

lamazad. Tan imavdroulad gmobdnen kremlis

qmedebas da sityvebs ar iSurebdnen

TiTqos am agresiis SesaCereblad. es aris

sruli simarTle.

Zalian male ruseTis saxiT meore

faSizmi moevlineba evropas!

ai aqedan daiwyeba namdvili brZolebi,

vxedav. evropa ruseTs Zlier dartymas miayenebs

da zustad im sanqciebs gamoiyenebs,

romlebic ar gamoiyena ruseTis mimarT

saqarTvelos agresiis dros, imitom, rom

ruseTTan urTierTobis seriozulad gafu-

Weba ar surda. Tumca evropas arc is

surda, rom ruseTs frTebi gaeSala da

arafers morideboda, rom Tavxedurad daer-

Rvia kanonebi, rac ruseTma, principSi, gaakeTa

kidevac.

magram frTxilad! akeTo _ erTia, bediswera

ki upirvelesia. ruseTs umZimesi

politikuri Cavardnebi aweria, iseTi, rom

verc ki warmoudgeniaT. boroteba borotebiT

daiTrguneba! es Seuryeveli kanonia.

ruseTis interesebi ki yvelasaTvis cnobilia.

isini afxazebs _ afsuebsa da

osebs, adamianebad ar miiCneven.

dRes es yvelaferi saxezea.

afxazeTi, gimeorebT, ar

arsebobs. dRes igi rusuli

samxedro qalaqia, anu didi

bazaa SavizRvispireTSi.

ruseTis pirdapiri mizania, gaanadguros

saqarTvelo. esaa da es, meti araferi! yovelive

ki imiT damTavrdeba, rom ruseTi

TviTon iqneba momavalSi okupirebuli da

gadabuguli muslimTa mier. es asea asi

procentiT.

msoflio politika Zalian iZabeba. bevri

ram unda Seicvalos.

iwyeba omebi, rac bevri

saxelmwifos teritoriebs

Secvlis. gaqrebian patar-patara

erebic. saqarTvelo ki gadarCeba!

daimaxsovreT: omebi saqarTvelos

gverds auvlis!

TiToeuli sityva, rogorc yovelTvis,

asruldeba!

rac mTavaria, momavalSi, vxedav, Tbilisi

gulia saqarTvelosi da igi dedaqalaqad

darCeba. marTalia, Seucvleli araferia, magram

vxedav, Tbilisi namdvilad Seucvlelia

da igi isev saqarTvelos dedaqalaqia

momavalSi. igi ulamazesi evropuli qalaqi

xdeba.

vxedav, 23-24 saukuneebSi, is, rasac axla

vwinaswarmetyveleb, pasuxs gascems yvela im

kiTxvas, rac Tbiliss Seexeba. aTasi Wori

agordeba, magram yvelaferi zustad ise

asruldeba, rogorc viwinaswarmetyvele, asi

procentiT.


da me getyviT Tqven...

(dasawyisi gv.2)

iniciativas ruseTisTvis vizebis gauqmebis

Taobaze?

_ am winadadebas erTi italia Tu emxroba,

sxva qveynebi winaRmdeg wavlen. sxvaTa Soris,

amaze didi garCevebi da mTeli ambebi iqneba

miuxedavad imisa, rom msoflio politikur

sarbielze es Tema ar aris didi mniSvnelobisa.

ubralod, dro raRaciT xom unda

Seivsos? yvela CixSia moqceuli da es yvelaferi

raRac gasarTob programas hgavs.

_ Tqven araerTxel brZaneT, rom,

ramdenadac uaxlovdebian ruseTi da

amerika erTmaneTs, imdenad iZabeba maTi

urTierTobebi. es TamaSi didxans ver

gagrZeldeba. yvela mcdeloba fuWiao.

iyo ki odesme amerika ganwyobili ruseTTan

urTierTobis realuri mogvarebiT?

_ erTi damisaxele is periodi, Tundac

Zalian mcire, roca ruseTi da amerika Zmebi

da megobrebi iyvnen? aseTi ram ar yofila

da arc iqneba. rac ruseTs surs, imas

amerika ar gaataninebs arc erT SemTxvevaSi.

da rac CvenTvisaa yvelaze mniSvnelovani, ar

gaataninebs saqarTvelos dayofa-danawevrebis

gegmas!!!

_ gamodis, rom hilari klintonma

moskovSi urTierTobis gadatvirTvis

dawyebis aRmniSvneli simboluri Rilaki

tyuilad Caitana. ise, iqneb Zalian

dagvianebuli kia, magram mainc unda

gkiTxoT: am Rilakze `perezagruzkas~

nacvlad `peregruzka~ rom ewera rusulad,

marTlac uneblie Secdoma iyo,

rogorc es iTqva, Tu...

_ es `Secdoma~ sruliad Segnebulad iyo

daSvebuli, sruliad Segnebulad! aseT rame-

Si uneblie cTomilebebi gamoricxulia. es

iyo Ria da xiluli miniSneba ara mxolod

ruseTisTvis, aramed mTeli msofliosTvis,

rom amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi arafris

daTmobas ar apirebs da SeuZlia erT wamSi

Secvalos politika, Tuki mis interesebs win

aRudgebian.

aba, sawyali amerikelebi, erTi xeiriani

`morusule~ ver iSoves imxela saxelmwifoSi,

rom sityva swored daeweraT.

_ miuxedavad imisa, rom obama winasaarCevno

programaSi sul sxvas ambobda,

axlaxans miiRo gadawyvetileba, avRaneTSi

jarebis raodenoba gazardos.

_ me 2007 wlis 10 Tebervlis CanawerSi

vambob, amerikaSi `respublikelebis~

mmarTvelobis xana dasrulda, qveynis saTave-

Si `demokratebi~ modian da isini iseT

programas ganaxorcieleben, muslimebs `respublikelebs~

moanatreben-meTqi. da kidev, ar

dagaviwydeT 2009 wlis 23 ianvris

winaswarmetyveleba: `raSic amerikis eqsprezidentma

Secdomebi dauSva, im sakiTxebs axali

mTavroba ufro axali da momgebiani

gegmiT miudgeba da ara ise, rom es sakiTxebi

moxsnan dRis wesrigidan... mTlianobaSi

igive politika gatardeba!~

ase rom, rogori programac ar unda

gaexmovanebina obamas winasaarCevnod, aSS-s

politika muslimuri saxelmwifoebis mimarT,

Tavadac xedavT, ar Secvlila da arc

Seicvleba.

_ qalbatono lela, rusuli diplomatiuri

wyaroebis mtkicebiT, saqarTvelo

axalgoris raionis omiT dasabruneblad

emzadeba. ruseTis Tavdacvis saministroSi

amis dasturad raionSi gazrdil

samxedro kontingents asaxeleben. Cndeba

eWvi, rom rusebi Tavad apireben

Semotevas da specialurad avrceleben

xmebs winaswar, raTa saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi

saqarTvelo gamoiyvanon damna-

Save cecxlis gaxsnaSi.

_ ra Tqma unda, es safuZvliani varaudia.

rusebi xom sul aseTi sqemiT muSaoben.

diax, me vxedav, rom iq qarTuli armia

idgeba yovelmxriv momzadebuli da kiTxvaze,

`davartyamT Tu ara okupantebs?~ pasuxi kosmosidan

aseTia: `davartyamT da mere rogor!!!~

rusebma ki gvabralon, rac undaT. es aravisTvis

arafers niSnavs.

_ ruseTSi teraqtebi grZeldeba da

mgoni, axal masStabebsac ki iZens. cota

xnis win momxdari `nevski eqspresis~

afeTqebaze pasuxismgebloba Crdilokavkasielebma,

konkretulad ki, doku

umarovis TanamebrZolebma aiRes Tavze.

sxvaTa Soris, siano-SuSinskoes hesis

afeTqebac am dajgufebam miiwera, miuxedavad

imisa, rom kremli cdilobda,

yvelaferi hesis gaumarTavobisTvis daebralebina.

ruseTis xelisufleba axlac

yvelanairad cdilobs, gaaqarwylos es

miTqma-moTqma. maT xom doku umarovi

ramdenime Tvis win mkvdrad gamoacxades...

_ eg doku umarovi bin ladeniviTaa...

kremlis mcdeloba, teraqtebi raRac gaumar-

Tavobebs daabralos, amaoa da saqmes verafriT

uSvelis. xom xedavT, ramdeni msxvili

teraqti miewyo erTmaneTs am mokle period-

Si? matareblis afeTqebas Zalian male mihyva

afeTqeba erT-erT klubSi. ruseTis xelisufleba

ki xmamaRla gahyviris, saxanZro

usafrTxoebis normebis daucvelobam gamoiwvia

es tragediao, magram ara, batonebo, es

gaqanebuli teraqti gaxldaT da naxavT, kidev

ramdeni klubi afeTqdeba.

_ sxvaTa Soris, cota xnis win

inguSeTSi gazsadenze msxvili teraqti

aRkveTes. vrceldeba informacia, rom

gazsadenze iseTi didi raodenobis asafeTqebeli

masala iyo, rac uzarmazar

msxverplsa da teqnogenur katastrofas

gamoiwvevda. gazis miwodeba am gziT

_ mozdoki-Tbilisi ramdenime dRiT

SeCerebulic ki iyo, ris gamoc somxe-

Ti da CrdiloeT oseTi bunebrivi airis

gareSe iyvnen darCenilebi. iyo ki iq

marTlac teraqtis mcdeloba, Tu ruseTs

kidev raRacaSi daWirda gazis gaTiSva?

_ ara, teraqtis mcdeloba namdvilad

iyo. ra Tqma unda, aqac muslimebis xeli

urevia. daxuWos kremlma Tvalebi, Tu unda,

magram faqtia, rom muslimebi ukve Zalze

moZlierdnen.

_ ...da amis dasturia Tundac iranis

prezidentis gankarguleba, saswrafod

daiwyon qveyanaSi aTi axali qarxnis

ageba, romlebSic birTvuli iaraRis

damzadeba iqneba SesaZlebeli. Zalian

bevrma eqspertma da politikosma, gansakuTrebiT,

rusma, es gancxadeba blefad

miiCnia da Tqva, rom irani verasdros

SeZlebs amdeni qarxnis agebas.

_ irani sakmaod moZlierebulia da Zalian

bevri warmoudgeneli ramis gakeTeba Seu-

Zlia. SeuZlia, magram ar dascaldeba. Zalian

male dadgeba dro, roca amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi daartyams irans da, ase vTqvaT,

gegmebs CauSlis.

calke Temaa ruseTis damokidebuleba

iranisadmi. kremli Tavad uwyobs xels irans

da amitom rusebis gancxadebebi maTTan dakav-

SirebiT sapirispirod unda gavigoT.

unda aRiniSnos isic, rom iranma Zalian

kargad icis rusuli TamaSebi da amitom ar

endoba kremls. Tavis mxriv, arc ruseTis

xelisuflebaa modunebuli, vinaidan xvdebian,

sanam irani amerikas miwvdeba, ager yuris

ZirSia ruseTi. iranis politika aseTia: `imas

Tu vera, Sen mainc dagartyam da mogTxri!~

_ sainteresoa, rom am bolo dros

ruseTSi Zalian aqtualuri gaxda stalinis

Tema. amboben, es putinis damsaxurebaao,

`droa, daisvas afxazeTSi rusuli jaris

ufro arakorumpirebuli da efeqturi samSvidobo

ZalebiT Canacvlebis sakiTxi. rusi samxedroebi

ara marto dainteresebul mxares warmoadgenen,

aramed xelisuflebis mier wamowyebuli

kampaniis erT-erT msxverpladac moiazrebian~.

robert niveri.

vinaidan mas stalinis saxelis aRorZinebiT,

misi mmarTvelobis stilis gamarTlebiT

ruseTis amJamindeli mmarTvelobis stilis

gamarTleba surso.

_ sxvaTa Soris, putinisgan es swori

Canafiqria, magram...

ruseTi qarTveli stalinis wyalobiT gaxda

zesaxelmwifo, es qarTulma Wkuam da mebrZolma

sulma, qarTulma genma gaxada Sesa-

Zlebeli. putini ki arc stalinia da arc

qarTveli, masSi ar devs qarTuli geni da

ruseTis zesaxelmwifod qcevas, Tavi rom

miaklas, mainc ver SeZlebs.

_ qalbatono lela, aqamde arasdros

mikiTxavs: ramdenad Seesabameba

sinamdviles gavrcelebuli xmebi vladimer

putinis kaspSi gatarebuli bavSvobis

Sesaxeb?

_ mokled da konkretulad: kvamli ucecxlod

ar Cndeba!

_ gasagebia!.. qalbatono lela, male

ukrainaSi saprezidento arCevnebi Catardeba.

am postze yvelaze gamokveTili

kandidatebi am etapze iulia timoSenko

da viqtor ianukoviCi arian. faqtia,

rom ruseTi am arCevnebs gulgrilad

ver moekideba da Tavisi interesebis

gatarebas Seecdeba. axla amboben,

vladimer putini iulia timoSenkos kandidaturis

gayvanaze muSaobso.

_ adrec vTqvi da axlac vimeoreb: timoSenko

yovelTvis iyo da aris kremlis

agenti. Tumca es qali male gaqreba ukrainis

politikidan. xalxi mas ar ayveba, xalxi

timoSenkos uaryofs da igi waagebs. qali

prezidenti ver gaxdeba. axla 2004 wlis 3

noembris winaswarmetyvelebasac gadaxedeT:

`vxedav, rom ukrainis prezidenti xdeba ianukoviCi!

ruseTis prezidenti Zalian cdeba,

igi motyuvdeba. ianukoviCi ruseTisTvis warmoudgenel,

moulodnel nabijebs gadadgams,

raTa ukraineli xalxis ndoba moipovos. igi

miimxrobs opoziciasac. ianukoviCi _ ukrainis

prezidenti _ ruseTis, putinis miTiTebebs

ar Seasrulebs. midis winaaRmdeg...~

_ sxvaTa Soris, imave 2004 wlis 26

oqtombers dawereT, ruseTis prezidenti

ar endoba saqarTvelos prezidents

da masTan aranair molaparakebaze ar

wamovao. es kidev erTxel daadastura

medvedevma oriode kviris win, roca

ganacxada, qarTvel xalxTan saurTier-

Tod moskovi mzadaa, magram saakaSvilTan

dialogi gamoricxuliao. miCndeba

kiTxvebi: kargiT, batono, ar modis

es medvedevi dialogze, magram

saWiroa ki saerTod ruseTTan am etapze

raime sakiTxze molaparakeba? vTqvaT

mainc Sedga Sexvedra, ra Sedegi mohyveba

mas CvenTvis sasargeblo da misaRebi?

mivaRwevT ki aseTi gziT rames?

_ araviTari molaparakebis warmoeba

ruseTis mTavrobasTan ar aris saWiro. axla

ramdenic undaT, imdeni iSfoTon adgilobrivma

`ruseTumeebma~ am pasuxis gamo. jer

Cemi teritoriidan mibrZandnen, batono, damibrunon

Cemi miwebi (mainc mouwevT!) da mere

davsxdeT da ramdenic gindaT, imdeni vilaparakoT

ori xalxis warsul `siyvarulsa~

da urTierTobebis aRdgenaze. manamde saqarTvelos

ruseTTan araferi aqvs salaparako.

an raze unda vilaparakoT? Tavs damesxi,

amaoxre, momkali, saxlidan gamagde, oblad

damtove, Svili momikali da axla mepatiJebi,

modi, qarTvelo xalxo, mzad var gesaubro,

Senze ki ar var gabrazebuli, Seni prezidenti

miSlis nervebso?..

medvedevis gancxadeba morigi tyuilia.

kremls saqarTvelos mimarT sufTa politika

arasdros gautarebia da arc axla apirebs.

es Cveneburi `meore ruseTTan~ urTierTobis

aRdgenis momxreebic moeSvnen xalxis

gasulelebas. asormocdaaTmilionian ruseT-

Si TiTze CamosaTvleli adamiani akritikebda

sakuTar xelisuflebas saqarTvelosTan omis

gamo, danarCenebi yvelani am omisa da

qarTvelebis Jletis momxreni iyvnen. visTan

darbian misasiyvaruleblad? cota WkuiT,

Torem kosmosi male migiCenT adgilebs rusul

dudukze cekva-TamaSisTvis da Zalian cudad

daamTavrebT moRvaweobas.

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`putinis momxreebSi gansakuTrebul

SeSfoTebas iwvevs

medvedevis mxridan putinis

prezidentobis periodis mudmivi

Sefaruli kritika. es

rusebsac da danarCen samyarosac

axsenebs, rom premierministri

jer kidev sakmaod

mniSvnelovan rols TamaSobs...

satelevizio arxebi kremlidan

sul sxva miTiTebebs iReben, xolo TeTri

saxlidan _ sul sxvas. amitom bevrs wvaloben,

raTa arc erTi mxare ukmayofilo ar darCes~.

pol sandersi, niu-iork Taimsi.

`vaRiareb, miSa rom ara, asi weli ver

gavigebdi, rom arsebobs sadRac, wynar okeaneSi

mikarguli naurus respublika. miSas, rogorc

prezidents, ar vaRiareb, magram vaRiareb,

rogorc geografiis maswavlebels. miSas

wyalobiTaa, rom me naurus respublika vici,

jorj buSma ki igoeTi da orWosani~.

dito gelovani, `versia~.

rogorc Cans, patarakunZulebisTvis

ruseTs

fuli jer kidev

hyofnis. afxazeTma

gadawyvita wavides

Tavis did ZmasTan,

magram vgoneb, ukve

TviTonac aRar

ician, romeli qveynis

moqalaqeebi arian. erT jibeSi rusuli

pasporti udevT, meoreSi ki afxazuri.

valeria

novodvoskaia.

11


ise, erTis mxriv, aseTebis arseboba saWiroc

kia, imitom, rom sanam isini farTxaleben,

kremli mSvidadaa, fiqrobs, rom dasayrdeni

hyavs CvenSi.

_ ubralod ki ar fiqrobs, namdvilad

asea. aba, sxva ra unda ifiqro

adamianma politologze (gvars Segnebulad

ar vasaxelebT. _ i.g.), romelic

ambobs, ruseTTan urTierTobis gareSe

araTu dakargul teritoriebs ver davibrunebT,

aramed rogorc qveyanas, momavalic

ar gvaqvso? es ise SemTxvevaa,

roca saukeTeso braldeba braldebaTa

Soris, araprofesionalizmia. winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi, samSoblos moRalate da

gamyidveli gamodixar.

_ oh, es mJavanaZisdroindeli eqspertebi!!!

kaco, Tu ase giyvars es ruseTi da ase

geSinia umisod cxovrebisa, adeqi da gadadi

iq sacxovreblad, gvaric gadaikeTe da garusdi!

kargiT, ra, bolosdabolos. brmebi xom ar

xarT, ver dainaxoT, ra damarTa ruseTma

saqarTvelos? momavlis prognozirebas xom

ar gTxovT vinme, es warsulia da gadaxedeT

istorias, gaaanalizeT da daskvnebic gamoitaneT.

ubedureba isaa, rom amis gakeTeba

rTuli da SeuZlebeli ki ar aris, arasasurvelia!

imitom, rom zogierTebi marto

sakuTar jibeebsa da mdgomareobis Senar-

Cunebaze fiqroben, meti araferze.

_ arian iseTebic, romlebic amtkiceben

sabolood davemSvidobeT natoso.

_ sisulelea! rodis asrulebula am vaieqspertebis

prognozi, rom axla asruldes?

natoSi aucileblad SevalT, Tanac, rogorc

vTqvi _ moulodnelad da swrafad. SeegueT

amas, Sadimanebo, SeegueT.

_ qalbatono lela, axla saubari

midis yazbegi-zemo larsis sakontrolo-gamSvebi

punqtis gaxsnaze. princip-

Si, am gziT ruseTidan ZiriTadad somxeTisTvis

gankuTvnili tvirTebi Semoedineboda

da axla ise xom ar gamodis,

rom somxeTis interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT,

sakuTar interesebze vambobT uars?

_ Tu rusebsa da somxebs Zalian undaT

am gziT siaruli, sul cota, imaze xuTjer

meti gadagvixadon, vidre gvixdidnen da

gavatarebT. es ise, pragmatuli mosazrebiT.

rac Seexeba gamSvebi punqtis amoqmedebas, es

sakiTxi male ar gadaiWreba. Zalian bevr

kiTxvis niSnebs vxedav. somxeTma ki, romelic

yvelaferSi mxars uWers da Tavs uqnevs

ruseTs, TviTmfrinavebiT isargeblos. axla

magaTi misvla-mosvla gagvixadon kidev sadardeblad.

_ zogierTi eqsperti varaudobs,

medvedevma mianiSna, ruseT-saqarTvelos

Soris sahaero mimosvlis aRdgenis sakiTxi

larsis gamSvebi punqtis amoqmedebazea

mibmulio.

_ sulac nu aRudgeniaT! ar gagvixades

saxvewari? es qarTvelebi kidev daetion sakuTar

saxlebSi, erbosaviT noyieri miwebi rom

miatovs da ruseTSi bazrebSi sadgomad da

quCa-quCa saxetialod garbian yinvasa da

yiameTSi. Tanac, aTasgvari damcirebisa da

Seviwroebis fonze. aq Toxis daWera uWirT,

eTakilebaT da iq rusis panRurebs iTmenen,

pirdapiri Tu gadataniTi mniSvnelobiT.

_ qalbatono lela, Tqven brZaneT,

osebi bevrs ijiuteben, ivaWreben, magram

datyvevebul tirZnisel bavSvebs

mainc gaaTavisuflebeno. asec moxda _

isini gaaTavisufles, magram kokoiTim

brZana, Cven am sakiTxSi ar gvivaWria,

anu samagierod osebis gaTavisufleba

ar mogviTxovia, es Cveni keTili nebis

gamoxatuleba iyovo. is ki ara, hamarbergs

kidev 170 qarTveli tyvec ki

gavataneTo. ar vici, me gamomrCa es

faqti, Tu kokoiTi mwared ityueba.

_ ityueba kokoiTi, ra Tqma unda, ityueba.

araviTari assamocdaaTi tyve ar gamoutanebia

evrokomisrisTvis. amas winaswarmetyveleba

arc Wirdeba, martivi logikaa: ase rom

yofiliyo, gana Cveni xelisufleba erT ambavs

ar atexda, naxeT, ra magrebi varT,

separatistebs amdeni adamiani gamovtaceTo?

ras laparakob?! Cven mTavrobas sapiaro mieces

da imas gauSvebs xelidan?

ise ki, kokoiTi vin aris saerTod? aravinac

ar aris! es misi gadawyetileba ar iyo.

magas aravin arafers ar ekiTxeba.

_ hamarbergs cxinvalSi yofili

premieri noRaideli axlda da yvelaferma

iseTi saxe miiRo, TiTqos swored

mas da ara evrokomisars gamoatanes

bavSvebi.

_ uf, rogor mecodeba noRaideli!..

_ axla, noRaidels rom odnavi warmodgena

hqondes, ra datvirTvis matarebelia

Tqveni es sityvebi...

kargiT, isev politikas mivubrundeT:

Zalian sasaciloa, magram naurus juja

saxelmwifom ruseTisgan fuladi daxmarebis,

50 milioni dolaris sanacvlod

afxazeTis damoukidebloba aRiara.

raSi daWirda ruseTs naurus yidva?

12

_ ai mag nabijidanac Cans, ra didi

politikosebi arian rusebi. magaT Tu hgoniaT,

kargi magaliTi moiyvanes msofliosTvis

imis SexsenebiT, rom arsebobs Zalian patara

saxelmwifo, romelic damoukidebelia, Zalian

cdebian. naurus saxelmwifod aravin miiCnevs

da arc arafers ekiTxebian. Tanac, is Zalian

Raribia da verafriT gaamxnevebs afsuebs,

romlebsac hgoniaT, rom ekonomikis aRorZinebisTvis

mxolod laJvardovani sanapiros qonaa

sakmarisi. aba erTi naxon, ra egzotikuri da

lamazi kunZulia nauru da mere misi ekonomikac

ikiTxon.

ise, sainteresoa, auxsnes ki afsuebs, sad,

ra adgilas, dedamiwis romel wertilSi

mdebareobs morigi amRiarebeli, romelmac

xeli moawera ararsebuls!!! anu afxazeTis

damoukidebeli saxelmwifos cnobas.

rac Seexeba Tavad aRiarebis faqts: ara

uSavs, axla amerika miscems nauruelebs 20

milions da isinic Secvlian gadawyvetilebas.

_ mesmis, rom pirobiT Tanxas asaxelebT,

magram ruseTma rom ufro meti

gadaixada?

_ pirveli: nu iCxrikebi! raxan vTqvi

oci, dawere oci. mova dro da gaigeb,

marTla pirobiTia Tu ara; da meore: ocad

ki ara, nauru 5 milionadac imdenjer gada-

Tqvams gadawyvetilebas, ramdenjerac daWirdeba.

_ qalbatono lela, saqarTvelom wamoayena

winadadeba, Cveni qveyana rusul

enaze nacvlad `gruziasi~ (Turquli warmoSobis

sityvis rusuli interpretaciis

Sedegad warmoqmnili saxeli) berZnuli

dasaxelebiT _ `georgiad~ moixsenion.

am TxovniT ukve mimarTes litvas. sainteresoa,

ramdenad mniSvnelovania da

saWiro saxelis Secvla da gaiTvaliswineben

Tu ara am winadadebas postsabWoTa

sivrcis qveynebi?

_ rom icode, Sen wvrilmani ggonia,

magram Zalian mniSvnlovani sakiTxia kia. swored

aseTi wvrilmanebia, udides politikur

datvirTvas rom atarebs da pirvel rigSia

gasakeTebeli.

`georgia~ Zalian momwons, mSvenieri saxelia,

imitom, rom wmida giorgis Svilebi

varT. Cven davirqvaT `georgia~, ase movixsenioT

sakuTari qveyana rusulad da iZaxon

`gruzia~ viRaceebma, sanam ar mozrdebaT.

_ amaswinaT erTma adamianma aseTi

ram mkiTxa: qalbaton lelas rogor

miaCnia, masonebi ufro saSiSni arian

saqarTvelosTvis Tu somxebio? simar-

Tle giTxraT, es masonuri isteria

yovelTvis gadaWarbebuli megona da

axlac zRaprad meCveneba, 21-e saukuneSi

masonTa loJebisa da magistrebis arseboba,

maT mier msoflios pyroba da

wesrigis gamgeblebad moxsenieba. am Temas

imdenad ar vaqcevdi arasdros yuradRebas,

rom masonTa arsebobac ki saer-

Tod daviwyebuli mqonda am adamianTan

gasaubrebamde. mere amas daerTo isic,

rom `asaval-dasavalSi~ baton koba arabulTan

interviuSi aseTi ram amovikiTxe:

`masonebi sdevnian msoflios Zvel

xalxebs, kacobriobis, civilazaciis SemqmnelT

Jleten da uwyoben terors~ _

da gadavwyvite marTlac mekiTxa TqvenTvis

maT Sesaxeb.

_ miTi masonTa siZlierisa da yovlis-

SemZleobis Sesaxeb zedmetad gadaWarbebulia.

maT me arafrad miviCnev, namdvilad ar

aqvT is Zala, rasac miaweren. ai somxebi ki

marTlac Casafrebulebi arian odiTgan. saintereso

is aris, rom sabolood yovelTvis

somxebi dgebian miwis pirisgan aRgvis saSiSroebis

winaSe da rogorc wesi, yovelTvis

qarTvelebis gadasarCenebi xdebian. es kosmosis

wesia _ SeiZleba adamianebisTvis ucnauri

da gaugebari, magram kosmosisTvis ki

Zalian samarTliani. ai, vin da ra ganagebs

da awesrigebs Cvens samyaros _ kosmosi! da

ara masonebi.

_ da kidev erTxel kidev erTi miTi

(yovel SemTxvevaSi, me ase mjera): bolo

Jami. am bolo dros es fraza imdenad

xSirad da iseTi xalxisgan ismis, cota

aramyari fsiqikis mqone adamianebi Sei-

Zleba seriozulad daavadnen. sul

mgonia, rom viRac Zalianaa dainteresebuli

bolo JamiT sazogadoebis

daSinebiT.

_ arc mTlad umagisobaa, Tumca aq

kidev isic TamaSobs rols, rom mavani sworad

ver, zogjer ki _ ar(!) ganmartavs

bibliuri winaswarmetyvelebisa Tu ufro gviani

periodis mamebis Canawerebsa da sityvebs.

araviTari bolo Jami im saxiT, rogori-

Tac Tqven warmogidgeniaT, ar arsebobs,

adamianebo! damSviddiT! bolo Jami udgebaT

konkretul politikosebs, sazogado moRvaweebs,

magram ara mTel samyarosa da

dedamiwas, miT umetes, saqarTvelos. vinc

amas CagZaxiT da gajerebT, is ubralod

ityueba!!! es 2012 welic male dadgeba da

naxavT, rogorc SevabijebT 2013-Si da bevrad,

bevrad Soreul wlebSic.

barem aqve gavcem pasuxs erT Jurnalists,

romelic irina sariSvils varaudebisa da

`lelakakuliaseuli politikuri sizmrebis

gacxadebas~ Txovs da ekiTxeba, bolosdabolos,

daiqceva Tu ara qveyana 2012 welso:

geTayva, Tu Tqven winaswarmetyveleba,

romelic yoveli fexis nabijze sruldeba,

sizmari ggoniaT, raRa dagimaloT, namdvilad

ar gaqvT saqme SesaSurad. Tqven amiT

uflis sityvas igdebT masxarad, rasac kargi

araferi mohyveba. ar gaSinebT, Tu SeiSnovebT,

gafrTxilebT!

da kidev: raxan ase interesdebiT maias

tomebiT, girCevT, kargad SeiswavloT maTi

winaswarmetyvelebebi, imitom, rom Tu gonze

ar moxvalT, kosmosi maT asrulebas pirad

cxovrebaSi gimzadebT da egeb gamogadgeT.

_ eh, qalbatono lela, nebas ar

maZlevT, Torem bolo Jamis bareori

cru mqadageblis saxelebsa da saqmianobis

sferosac gavacnobdi mkiTxvels...

kargiT, sxva Temebze gadavideT. zviad

gamsaxurdias gardacvalebis Semswavleli

komisia an sxva saxis gamoZieba

daadgens Tu ara odesme realur

mizezs saqarTvelos pirveli prezidentis

gardacvalebisa?

_ gamoZiebisTvis Zalian Znelia amis dadgena,

imdenad, ramdenadac sakmarisi masalebi ar

arsebobs. Tumca muSaobas is Sedegi eqneba,

rom raRacas mainc gamoiZieben da ityvian.

_ axlaxan gavrcelda informacia,

TiTqos igor giorgaZes aqvs eWvmiutaneli

samxilebi.

_ kiTxvas Segibruneb: viTom ratom unda

iyos giorgaZis informacia da mis xelT

arsebuli masala sarwmuno?

_ me amaze pasuxs ver gagcemT,

magram kiTxva namdvilad legitimuria.

qalbatono lela, ar vici, vicino

Tu vitiro, magram opozicia gazafxulisTvis

saprotesto aqciebis mesame

talRis (ase daaanonses) agorebas gegmavs...

_ me ukve davasrule am opoziciaze

saubari. velodebi mecnierTa partias. dRevandeli

opozicia TviTon xalxisTvisaa ukve

uintereso da me vis velaparako maTze? ai

mecnierTa partia ki sul sxvaa. aravis eWvic

ar gauCndeba maT mimarT, imitom, rom araferi

SeeSlebaT, yovelgvar ambicias gverdze gadadeben

da qveynisTvis iRvaweben. ai es aris

marTlac erTiani gundi, romelsac veravi-

Tari Zala ver daSlis, imitom, rom

winaswarmetyveleba unda asruldes!

axla sul sxva ramis Tqma minda: weRan

giTxari, visac ruseTi uyvars, garusdes da

iq gadavides sacxovreblad-meTqi. axla imasac

vityvi, visac gaqarTveleba unda, qarTvelebad

gadmoeweron-meTqi. viTom ratomac ara?

Tuki afsuebi rusebad ewerebian, sxva eris

warmomadgenlebs, romlebsac marTla gulwrfelad

uyvarT Cveni qveyana, ratom unda

SevuzRudoT survili, gaxdnen qarTvelebi?

(albaT, gasagebia, rom me aq Cinelebsa da

afrikelebze rom ar vsaubrob). aseTebi droTa

ganmavlobaSi ise gaqarTveldebian, Tqveni

mowonebuli. sxvaTa Soris, amas didi dro

sulac ar daWirdeba.

ise, qarTvelebo, vxedav da unda giTxraT:

Cveni jiSi da geni mainc sufTa rCeba

momavalSi. isev TviTon dro gafiltravs

mas.

SeiZleba vinmem nacionalistadac ki mimiCnios,

magram, ra vqna, rom miuxedavad sxva

erebisadmi pativiscemisa, sworedac qarTvelebis

gamravleba-gaZliereba minda saqarTveloSi da

vixilav kidec amas male. tolerantobaze ki

sxvebma ilaparakon, ai imaT, asormocdaaT

milions rom iTvlian.

_ dabolos, qalbatono lela, miuloceT

Tqvens xalxs axali, 2010 weli.

_ Cemo datanjulo, gamwarebulo da

gawamebulo, bevrjer CaCoqilo, magram

zurgze daucemelo da gautexelo

qarTvelebo, usazRvroT miyvarxarT! rac

mTavaria, RmerTsa da kosmoss uyvarxarT

da amitomac verasdros veranairma mterma

_ Sinaurma Tu gareulma, ver dagvaWra

fesvebi.

ver mogverivnen!

verc mogverevian!

merwmuneT, marTals vwinaswarmetyveleb

da yvela winaswarmetyveleba asruldeba.

nu dabeCavdebiT!

nu dakargavT mebrZol suls, anu

qarTvelobas!

cota xans kidev ufro gagviWirdeba,

magram male damSviddeba mTeli saqarTvelo,

ukan darCeba yovelgvari gaWirveba

da ubedureba.

agisruldebaT yvela sikeTe, rac ki

odesme miwinaswarmetyvelebia da yvelani

darwmundebiT, rom Cveni qveyana mar-

Tlac uflisganaa dalocvili da sxvaTa

dalocva arc ki sWirdeba.

Soba-axal wels gilocavT, qarTvelebo!

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