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interviu Cawerilia 22 noembers.

_ qalbatono lela, gazeTis am nomridan

redaqciam ronald asmusis wignis

beWdva daiwyo. miuxedavad imisa, rom

wigni sakmaod didi moculobisaa, gvinda,

rom is srulad mivawodoT mkiTxvels.

amas Tavisi mizezebi aqvs da Tu SeiZleba,

es Tavad uTxariT mkiTxvels.

_ es wigni 2008 wlis omis Semdeg daiwera.

masSi moTxrobilia imaze, rac xdeboda

xilulad da im procesebzec, romlebic kulisebs

miRma viTardeboda

da amitom farTo sazogadoebisTvis

uxilavi da ucnobi

iyo. es wigni aris

udidesi faqti imisa, rom

is winaswarmetyvelebebi, romlebic

saqarTvelos, ruse-

Tis, amerikisa da evropis

sxvadasxva qveynis globalur

politikas exeboda da

exeba, uzustesad asrulda

da kvlav sruldeba. mkiTxveli

aRmoaCens, rom iman,

rasac me mravali wliT

adre vambobdi, realurad

Seisxa xorci 2008 wlis

agvistos movlenebis dros.

am etapze saWirod ar mimaCnia,

wignTan dakavSirebiT

vTqva is, rac redaqciis

TanamSromlebmac

iciT da kidev ramdenime

adamianmac. dadgeba dro da

imasac gavamxel, ratom uwoda

mavanma asmusis am naSroms

lela kakulias wigni.

_ marTlac, dainteresebuli

da informaciisTvisTvalyurismadevnebelma

adamianebma kargad

ician, rom dRes

msoflioSi movlenebi

zustad ise viTardeba,

rogorc es Tqven mravali

wlis win iwi-

naswarmetyveleT da dResac ganagrZobT.

magaliTad amerikas moviyvan, rodesac Tqven

brZaneT, rom obamas sisustis gamo amerikas

marTavs `respublikelTa~ da `demokratTa~

gaerTianebuli gundi. marTalia, aSS-is

axal mTavrobaSi Tavidanve iyo ramdenime

`respublikeli~ maRali Tanamdebobis piri,

magram axla, rodesac Sualedur arCevneb-

Si `respublikelebma~ sZlies `demokratebs~,

kongresSi ZalTa Tanafardoba pirvelis

sasargeblod Seicvala. isini ki obamas

politikas didad ewinaaRmdegebian. gamodis,

rom winaswarmetyveleba, rogorc

ityvian, ZalaSi Sedis?

_ diax, swored asea. axla iwyeba amerikis

politikuri marTvis gaerTianebuli gundis

Camoyalibeba. saqme isaa, rom SeerTebuli Statebi

dRes Zalian rTul politikur CixSia momwyvdeuli.

mas ukiduresad sWirdeba `respublikelebis~

Semtevi Zala, raTa swori nabijebi gadadgas

da SeinarCunos msoflio zesaxelmwifos imiji

_ ara fuWi, aramed realuri zesaxelmwifosi.

amerikam unda gazardos mokavSireebis ricxvi,

kvlav unda akontrolos muslimuri samyaro

_ avRaneTi, erayi _ da jarebis gamoyvanaze

arc unda ifiqros. ai, es iqneba gamarTlebuli

politika. hoda, momavalSi moxdeba kidec ise,

rom arc ifiqrebs.

amerikas ar sWirdeboda is, prezidenti, romelic

dRes hyavs...

_ es Tqven jer kidev maSin TqviT,

obamas gvari gaJRerebulic rom ar iyo,

anu jer aravin icoda prezidentobis

da me getyviT Tqven...

mkiTxvels yovel nomerSi vTavazobT intervius qarTvel

winaswarmetyvelTan. igi isaubrebs mocemuli

momentisTvis yvelaze metad aqtualur Temebze, Tumca

qalbatoni lelas pasuxebi yovelTvis efuZneba ramdenime

wlis win Caweril winaswarmetyvelebebs.

kandidatebis vinaoba.

_ diax. es iyo 2007 wlis 17 Tebervlis

winaswarmetyveleba: `feradkaniani prezidenti dRes

amerikas ar sWirdeba, arc damTmobi kaci,

romelsac, ukacravad, magram politika ar esmis.

gikvirT? ase vxedav!~ da dRes dasturdeba,

rom winaswarmetyveleba, rogorc wesi, ar Secda.

dRes yvela xedavs, rom obama susti

prezidentia da politikaSi didad ver erkveva.

rac Seexeba ruseTs, misi politika saerTod

nafotebad iqca. Tu Statebs susti obama hyavs,

ruseTs kidev ufro uaresi, `orTaviani~ prezidenti

marTavs. dRes mTeli msofliosTvis

xilulia, rom rusebs sakuTari saxelmwifo

Tavze eqcevaT, rom qveyana qucmacdeba da

iyofa.

gansakuTrebiT aRvniSnav, rom ruseT-amerikis

_ am ori udidesi, wamyvani qveynis molaparakeba-urTierTobebi,

es aris msofliosTvis saCvenebeli

dadgmuli speqtaklebi. axla orive kargavs

Zalas da orive cdilobs, raRaciT

Seavson politikuri vakuumi, iqneba es debatebi

Tu molaparakebebi.

da mainc, amerika da misi gavlena aRmosavle-

Tis qveynebze ufro Zlieria, vidre ruseTisa.

2008 weli, 2 aprili.

vxedav, momavalSi natos gaZliereba ruseTis interesebSic Seva, ratom?

imitom, rom vxedavT, muslimebi swrafad erTiandebian; isinic ki,

vinc erTmaneTs ebrZvian, dazavdebian. xolo kremlis mier muslimebis

mimarT gatarebuli politika Zalian cudad aisaxeba rusul politikaze

da Sedegs, romelsac vxedavT, imisi sityvebiT gadmocema SeuZlebelia. es

saSinelebaa! iciT, ras vxedavT? TviTon ruseTi Sedis natosTan, anu

amerikasTan aliansSi. es hgavs meore msoflio omisdroindel process,

roca amerika-ruseTi faSizms erToblivad SeebrZolnen! marTalia, ara

Tavidanve, magram bolos mainc erTiani saxiT warsdgnen msoflios

winaSe. igive moxdeba am SemTxvevaSic, oRond cota ufro sxvanairad, anu

vxedavT gaerTianebuli qristianebisa da gaerTianebuli muslimebis did

Sejaxebas!

2010 weli, 2 Tebervali, Tbilisi.

mTavari ki is aris, rom (es warsulSi davinaxeT) ruseTi natoSi

integracias moiTxovs! vxedav maT samomavlo gegmas: ruseTi natos mtrad

miiCnevda da miiCnevs dResac. amitom saWiroa moqmedeba da SeimuSaves

gegma _ Sevides mtris banakSi da cixe Signidan gatexos! anu Sevides

Sig natos gulSi, sadac, maTi azriT, yvela kari Riaa da, bolosdabolos,

nato daSalos!

magram, batonebo, es patara saqarTvelo araa!!! es afxazeTi da

samaCablo araa!!! momavalSi ruseTi didi saSiSroebis winaSe dgeba. maTi

politika ar gaamarTlebs. nato maTTvis is xafangia, romelic ruseTs

daSlis, pirveloba ki isev amerikas darCeba! mokled, sxvisTvis amoTxril

ormoSi TviTon ruseTi aRmoCndeba.

ruseT-amerikis politikurad saWidao Tema _

es aris kavkasia, konkretulad, saqarTvelo.

adrec vTqvi da kidev gavimeoreb, rom ruseTi

qronikulad aris daavadebuli saqarTveloTi.

magram maT verc saqarTvelosi da verc

kavkasieli xalxebis _ ukacravad JargonisTvis

_ daCmoreba ver moaxerxes. wesiT, roca ucxo

erTan raime saxis urTierTobas apireb _ omi

iqneba es Tu mezoblur-megobruli damokidebuleba

_ jer Rrmad da safuZvlianad unda

Seiswavlo maTi tradiciebi, istoriulad Camoyalibebuli

Cvevebi, xasiaTi, mentaliteti da

mereRa gadadga esaTuis nabiji, raTa sakuTar

politikas swori gezi da mimarTuleba misces.

ai, mxolod aseT SemTxvevaSi iqnebi mogebuli.

sxvaTa Soris, minda aRvniSno, rom amerikelebi

upirvelesad swored amiT interesdebian,

roca romelime axal, ucxo saxelmwifosTan

iwyeben TanamSromlobas: isini jer maT istorias

swavloben da mxolod mereRa qmnian

politikuri qmedebebis monaxazebs, rac maT

gamarjvebas uzrunvelyofs.

_ Tqven 2008 wlis 5 dekembers naTvami

gaqvT, rom `amerikelebma kargad

Seiswavles kavkasiel xalxTa istoria,

kultura da, ra Tqma unda, saqarTvelo

amoirCies~.

_ diax, swored asea da radgan saqarTvelo

amoarCies, arc daTmobs mas arcerT SemTxvevaSi.

amas me pirvelad ar vambob, es karga

xnis win viwinaswarmetyvele, magam maSin politologebma

da politikosebma lamis omi gamomicxades,

dagvTmo da eg aris, amerikas aranairad

aRar vainteresebT da zurgi gvaqciao.

magram dRes, roca yvelam TvalnaTliv dainaxa

realoba, igive xalxi gulze mjiRis cemiT da

asprocentiani garantiiT amSvidebs qarTvelobas,

amerika isev Cvens gverdiTaa, natoSic

SevalTo da ase Semdeg. anu sindisis qenjnis

gareSe uaryofen TavianT adrindel daskvnebs

da iseTi Wkvianuri, dawyobil-dalagebuli saxeebiT

imeoreben Cems jer kidev 1987 wels

danaxulsa da Semdeg mravaljer dabeWdilgamoqveynebuls,

rom nervic ar utokavT. magram

gafrTxilebT, politikosebo: momavalSi Zalian

didi cvlilebebi moxdeba, iseTi politikuri

TamaSebi daiwyeba, rom vercerT kiTxvaze pasuxs

veravin gascemT, rasac me didi siamovnebiT

vadevneb Soridan Tvalyurs. Tumca maT

arc is ar aRelvebT, Tu kiTxvaze pasuxs ver

scemen. kargad verTobi, roca morige frazas

iSvelieben aseT SemTxvevSi, winaswarmetyveli ki

ar varo. amaswinaT axlobelma

miTxra, jondi baRa-

Turiam televiziiT Tqva,

opozicionerebo, roca ar

iciT, rogor moiqceT,

lela kakulias daekiTxe-

To. baRaTuriam erTxel

Tqva simarTle da me davinaxe,

rom mas goneba ki

uWris, magram...

mokled, politika

karuseliviT trialebs, masze

erTidaigive xalxi jdeba

da kataobs, magram mudmivi

araferia da elodeT

udides politikur Zvrebs

mTel dedamiwaze. ai maSin

ki magrad dagcxebaT, politikosebo,

kosmosi arcerTs

dagindobT. Cemi saqarTvelo

da Cemi xalxi ki mainc

mSvidad da wynarad gadaitans

am rTul procesebs.

_ mSvidad da wynarad,

miuxedavad imisa,

rom cxovreba TandaTan

rTuldeba da

Zvirdeba?

_ hoda, sul rom

vimeoreb, miwebs mixedeT,

xeli gaanZrieT da geSvelebaT-meTqi,

es gaiTvaliswinon

da eSvelebaT. amden

ucodinar eqims, maswavlebels,

uniWo mxatvars, reJisors, erTi

kargi purismcxobeli, mebaRe, soflis meurneobaSi

kargad garkveuli miwis muSa, kargi

zeinkali urCevnia qveyanas, raTa saxelmwifo

aewyos da dalagdes.

_ qalbatono lela, cvlilebebi Sedis

mosaxleobidan komunaluri gadasaxadebis

amoRebis sistemaSi. maTi mixedviT, Tu

abonents wylisa da dasufTavebis momsaxurebis

davalianeba aqvs, eleqtroenergiis

miwodeba SeezRudeba. ra mohyveba am axal

`egzekuciad~ monaTlul cvlilebebs?

_ ra da mosaxleoba ver gadaixdis gadasaxads

da daidgams tradiciul navTis lampas.

am cvlilebebis SemomReb-iniciatorebi ki cota

frTxilad iyvnen, iqiT ar darCnen wagebaSi da

kanoni Sesacvleli ar gauxdeT. xalxi, ra Tqma

unda, protests gamoTqvams. ver xedavT, ra

xdeba mTels msoflioSi socialuri gaWirvebis

gamo? lamis yvelaferi daangrios da miwasTan

moasworos gacofebulma xalxma. magaliTad

saberZneTic kmara. magram vafrTxileb yvelas:

gaiTvaliswineT, qarTvelebi sxva saxiT gamoxataven

protests da frTxilad!

_ qalbatono lela, Tu SeiZleba, isev

(gagrZeleba gv. 10)

mTavari redaqtori: irma gelaSvili

gazeTi registrirebulia vake-saburTalos raionul sagadasaxado inspeqciaSi.

gazeTSi da vebgverdze gamoyenebuli masalebis da fotoebis gadabeWdva-gamoqveyneba

redaqciis Tanxmobis gareSe akrZalulia. saavtoro uflebebi daculia.

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kosmosSi kosmosSi kosmosSi dro dro dro ar ar ar arsebobs!

arsebobs!

arsebobs!

`winaswarmetyvelebam ar icis Svili da qmari, axlobeli da

megobari. Cven vambobT imas, rasac vxedavT da gveubnebian...

miiReT ise, rogorc vwinaswarmetyveleb!~

1 agvisto.

vxedav, momavalSi evropis ulamazesi

xidi unda daingres. es xidi

safrangeTSia.

amas didi vnebaTaRelva mohyveba. yvelas

erTi azri aqvs, rom terori ganxorcielda

muslimTa mxridan. da es im kanonebis pasuxad,

romelTa miRebasac safrangeTis mTavroba

muslimebis winaaRmdeg apirebs. Tumca

ityvian, rom ngreva siZvelis gamo moxda,

radgan safrangeTis mTavrobas sakuTari sisustis

gamoCena ar surs da vxedav, yvelafers

miCqmalaven. Zvel xidsac aRadgenen. magram es

faqti ase ubralod ar waiSleba.

safrangeTis mTavroba iwyebs did

politikur TamaSs muslimebis

winaaRmdeg, romlebic safrangeTSi

cxovroben; miiReben kanonebs, romel-

Ta dakanonebasac ver axerxebdnen

politikur garemoebaTa gamo. axla

ki am SemTxvevam, vxedav, xel-fexi

gauxsna maT da kanonebis didi

koriantelia.

yvelafers, risi survilic hqondaT, akanoneben

da amas xels veravin SeuSlis. vandalizmi

unda aRikveTos kanonebiT. es demokratiuli

gzaa da amas mTeli evropa dauWers mxars.

momavalSi, vxedav, evropaSi evropelebze

meti muslimi cxovrobs. es evropelebisTvis

didi tragediaa. Tu Riad ar imoqmedes,

male evropa rTul situaciaSi aRmoCndeba.

yvelaferi ki safrangeTidan daiwyeba (am

Temaze me Tvrameti wlis win viwinaswarmetyvele,

gamovaqveyne kidec gazeTebSi, Jurnalsa da

wignSic). ase rom, didi politikuri omebi

elis evropas, romelSic, vxedav, igi amerikis

CareviTa da daxmarebiT, gaimarjvebs. amerika

evropas mTlianad mwvane Suqs aunTebs. vxedav,

es gaerTianebuli Zala bevr saxelmwifos

Caafiqrebs, gansakuTrebiT ki im saxelmwifoebs,

romelnic saomar moqmedebebs gegmaven.

diax, dafarulad, magram arc oms

moeridebian! laparakoben erTs da Cumad

akeTeben da atareben sul sxva politikas.

faqti ki erTia: 18 wlis win vixile, rom

muslimebi evropas datoveben. winaswarmetyvelebebi

mTeli sizustiT sruldeba.

adamianebs Zalian gauWirdebaT momavalSi.

aris didi SiSi da qaosi. dedamiwaze yvelaferi

aireva. bunebac ganrisxebulia adamianebze.

yvelaferi es Tavad adamianebis arasworma

politikam da cxovrebis arasworma

wesma ganapiroba. aq kosmosi arafer SuaSia.

piriqiT, kosmiurma energiebma unda gadaar-

Cinos dedamiwa. adamianebi mixvdebian, rom

bevri ram maTzea damokidebuli, mTavaria,

tvini gaanZrion da yvelafers Tavisi adgili

miuCinon, wavidnen kompromisze da SeTanxmdnen,

raTa mSvidobam da siyvarulma daisadguros

dedamiwaze. es kosmosis pirveli

Sesasrulebeli pirobaa.

mokled, rasac dasTesT, imas moimkiT,

adamianebo. yvelaferi bumerangiviT ukan gibrundebaT!

evropa ki, rogorc 18 wlis win

davinaxe da dResac vimeoreb, erTi periodi

iviwyebs demokratias da pirdapir moqmedebebze

gadadis. araevropelebs, anu muslimebsac

da sxva erebis warmomadgenlebsac, vurCevdi,

droze gaecalon evropas(!!!), vinaidan did

dartymas miiReben.

vxedav, dgeba periodi, roca adamianebi

mSobliur qveynebs ubrundebian. diax, asea,

ubrundebian! ise, es Zalian mniSvnelovani

faqtia, vinaidan adamianTa ganviTarebis done

sul sxva saxes Rebulobs, anu ibruneben

saxes: germanels germaneli ewodeba, afrikels

_ afrikeli, muslims ki muslimi. ai es

yvelaferi erTad qmnida im rTul genetikur

kods, romelic anadgurebda adamianis saxes,

aseve msoflios qveynebis momavals, anu Slida

yovelgvar sazRvars da momavalSi nel-nela

bolomde daikargeboda yvela is faseuloba,

rasac adamiani saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi qmnida.

es asea asi procentiT.

ase rom, rac msoflioSi xdeba da moxdeba,

im procesebs, ra Tqma unda, veravin

SeaCerebs, vinaidan, rogorc yovelTvis,

winaswarmetyveleba unda asruldes. umTavresi

ki is aris, rom dedamiwa gadarCeba! da

gadarCebian mxolod rCeulni, amin!!!

7 agvisto.

momavalSi, vxedav, adamianebs SiSi SeipyrobT.

es marTlac safuZvliani SiSia, vinaidan

yvelaferi sruldeba ise, rogorc

viwinaswarmetyveleT. amas ki, adamianebo, ver

moereviT da verc verafers SecvliT. Tqveni

azri kosmos ar ainteresebs. dRes dedamiwaze

Suri, boroteba da Zaladoba mefobs,

adamianebma ar uwyian, ras sCadian; ufro

sworad, miaCniaT, rom Zalze niWierebi arian

da rasac akeTeben Tu fiqroben, absoluturad

sworia. Zalian cdebiT da amas male

mTeli kacobrioba ixilavs. buneba Tavis

Zalas gviCvenebs, adamiano, romelsac ver

moerevi. mas mxolod kosmiuri energiis Careva

Tu SeaCerebs,

kosmiuri energiis gasaRebi ki

saqarTveloSia da es gasaRebi mxolod

qarTveli winaswarmetyvelis

_ lela kakulias xelSia!

es asprocentiani realobaa. es erTaderTi

SemaerTebeli derefania kosmosTan. es ar

aris ubralo naTqvami!!!

adamianebo, amas ase xmamaRla dRes vacxadebT

imitom, rom kacobrioba didi saSiSroebis

winaSe dgas, rasac wlebis ganmavlobaSi

vwinaswarmetyvelebdi da mudam vafrTxilebdi

adamianebs. dRes faqtebi saxezea.

kosmiuri derefnidan modis yvela

winaswarmetyveleba, uzarmazari

energia, sicocxlis energia, romlis

fasic mxolod ganaTlebulma

da rCeulma adamianebma ician. es

energia ki moaqvs qarTvel

winaswarmetyvels lela kakulias,

romelic kosmosis im ganzomilebidanaa,

romelsac hqvia...!!!

mcire dakvirveba: roca winaswarmetyveleba

warmoiTqmeba da iwereba, xdeba swrafi

materializacia; Tuki ar warmovTqvi da ar

davwere, TiTqos iyineba. Tanac irgvliv

bevri ram ireva manam, sanam ar warmoiTqmeba

da ar daiwereba! es ase xdeba im dRidan,

rac dedamiwas movevline!

arasdros ar vamaxvilebdi yuradRebas

dRemde imaze, TiTqos energia

unda yofiliyo damaluli

raRac drois ganmavlobaSi, mere

ki amaze mesaubra. dRes vsaubrob

am kosmiur energiaze da isic mcire,

Zalian mcire doziT. bolomde mainc

ar maTqmevineben! asea saWiro!

buneba boboqrobs, msoflio politikac boboqrobs.

mokled, didi cvlilebebi iqneba

planetaze! magram dedamiwa gadarCeba, gadar-

Cebian adamianebi _ mxolod rCeulni, nagavs

ki dedamiwa mxrebidan Camoibertyavs. dadebi-

lela kakulia

Ti kosmiuri energiebi nel-nela gaiSleba

dedamiwaze da cxovreba, sicocxle gagrZeldeba.

bunebac damSviddeba. misi didi cvlilebebi

dadebiTia dedamiwisTvis, adamianebisTvis

gansakuTrebiT. es yvelaferi ki, vimeoreb,

sicocxlis, axali sicocxlis dasawyisia. amin!

minda aRvniSno, rom dedamiwa, buneba mudam

ganicdis cvlilebebs. gava ramdenime saukune

da buneba isev aboboqrdeba _ isev cecxli,

wyaldidobebi, vulkanebi da a.S. vxedav, es

aucilebelic aris, raTa dedamiwam iarsebos.

is, rasac adamianebi warRvnas eZaxiT, piriqiT,

aris dedamiwis, ase vTqvaT, gasufTaveba

da axali sicocxlis dasawyisi. am dros

mecniereba uZluria. verc veraviTar daskvnas

gamoitanT da verc verafers uSveliT. miwier

Zalebs ar ZaluZT bunebis am procesebis

SeCereba. ase iyo da ase iqneba yovelTvis.

rac Seexeba Cems sayvarel samSoblosa

da Cems sayvarel qarTvelebs,

minda davamSvido mTeli Cemi eri,

rom vxedav, bunebis risxva Zalian

naklebad dagvatydeba Tavs. uamrav

Semotevas avicilebT.

moxdeba is, rac ramdenime weliwadSi erTxel

xdeboda.

momavalSi vxedav did miwisZvrebs, didi

qalaqebi ingreva espaneTSi, italiaSi, TurqeTSi,

somxeTSi, indoeTSi _ es didi, damangreveli

dartyma iqneba am qveynebisTvis.

CineTSi grZeldeba wyaldidobebi, rac bevri

adamianis sicocxles Seiwiravs. mdinareebis

done aiwevs. mdinareebi, vxedav, kalapotebs

icvlian da amas, adamiano, Sen ver SeaCereb!

erTi periodi msoflio am procesebSi iqneba

CarTuli. elodebian bunebis axal siurprizebs.

aris meore etapi _ teritoriuli omebi.

israeli Tavis politikas ganagrZobs, irani

ki ukan ar ixevs da amerikas kvlav upirispirdeba.

TurqeTsa da qurTebs Soris omi

Zalian seriozul saxes Rebulobs. TurqeTis

mTavrobas vurCevdiT, rom ufro seriozulad

moekidon am sakiTxs, imitom, rom qurTebi

didi Tavistkivilia da seriozul masStabebs

moicavs. vxedav, iqneb didi terorebi

TurqeTis did qalaqebSi, turistebi garbian.

moxdeba mravali sxva teraqti, romlebzec

bevri qveyana calke alaparakdeba. TurqeTs

Zalian gauWirdeba gakontroleba. isini am

yvelafers amerikas daabraleben. amerika pasuxis

gacemaze Tavsac ar Seiwuxebs.

warsulSic vxedavdi da dResac igives

vxedav: yarabaRis omi ar damTavrdeba. omi

mainc gagrZeldeba. somxebi afxazeT-samaCablos

variantis dasasruls elodebian. TiTqos

rwmundebian, rom ruseTma saqarTvelos es

teritoria sabolood CamoaWra da rusulma

politikam gaamarTla. amitom axla igives

gameorebas cdiloben yarabaRSic. magram Zalian

cdebiT.

bolos saqarTvelos politika imarjvebs.

saqarTvelo asi procentiT

ibrunebs dakargul teritoriebs,

maT Soris imaTac, romlebic azerbaijansa

da somxeTs aqvT miTvisebuli.

dRes rusulma politikam didi kraxi,

Cavardna ganicada saqarTvelosTan mimarTeba-

Si da es yovelive Zalian kargad Cans

politikuri gadasaxedidan. momavalSi ruse-

Ti miiRebs kavkasiur omebs. es omebi dResac

midis. erTi afeTqeba akliaT da es afxaze-

Ti da samaCabloa. iq, vxedav, afsuebi kargad

xvdebian, rom ruseTisTvis arafers warmoadgenen.

ruseTi niRabs ixsnis bolomde:

3


`afxazeTi da samaCablo ruseTis miwebia.

araviTari damoukidebeli saxelmwifoebi!~ aqedan

iwyeba didi afeTqebebi, partizanuli brZolebi,

teroristuli aqtebi. rusebi didi sisastikiT

gauswordebian afsuebs. es kidev ufro

gaamwvavebs situacias. vxedav, aqedan gamosavali

ar arsebobs. omebi grZeldeba. araviTari

molaparakeba! afsuebisTvis es aris

omi dedamiwaze arsebobisTvis, vinaidan kargad

xedaven, rom ruseTis gegma erTia:

gaanadguron mcire erebi, raTa momavalSi

Tavsatexi moiSoron, daasaxlon iq sakuTari

moqalaqeebi, anu mxolod rusebi (Tumca maT

yovelTvis hqondaT aseTi gegmebi. ruseTi

dagexmaros, gamoricxulia. sityva `daxmareba~

ruseTis mxridan, saerTod daiviwyeT, xalxo.

ruseTi mxolod sakuTar Tavs exmareba. gadaxedeT

mTels maT istorias. isini yovelTvis

dampyroblebi iyvnen da es araerTxel miwinaswarmetyvelebia

warsulSic).

vxedav rusul gegmas: im SemTxvevisTvis,

Tu rusebi dagvibruneben

Cvens teritoriebs (da es, ra Tqma

unda, asec iqneba), Caasaxlon iq

rusebi, raTa samomavlod is naRmi

mainc Cadon, rom momavalSi rusuli

avtonomia moiTxovon.

es Zalian Sors gamiznuli Canafiqria,

romelsac asruleba ar aweria. erTi Casaxlebuli

rusic ki ver moikidebs fexs qarTul

miwebze. maT deportacia eliT, vxedav.

me viwinaswarmetyvele, rogor daiwveboda

ruseTi, misi tyeebi, puris yanebi, vTqvi, rom

kremlis varskvlavi cecxlis bolSi gaexveoda

da mTavari, vxedavdi ruseTis teritoriaze

radiaqtiul nivTierebebs. es Cernobilze

uaresia-meTqi, davwere. hoda, winaswarmetyvelebebi

mTeli sizustiT sruldeba. ruseTi _

vimeoreb asjer danaxuls _ aramxolod iSleba,

aramed Caiwveba bolomde.

vxedav, cecxlis kerebi Camqrali

ar aris. diax, ar aris Camqrali!

rusebs fexqveS miwa ewviT. cecxli

isev dainTeba, isev cecxlovan nisl-

Si CaiZireba ruseTi.

mosaxleobaSi ukve seriozuli panikaa, vxedav.

yvela gasaqcevs eZebs. rusul yinvebs

natroben. mimarTulebas CrdiloeTisken vxedav,

im CrdiloeTisken, romelsac ruseTi

usargeblo teritoriebad miiCnevs. arada vici,

rom es adgilebi rusi xalxis gadamrCenelia.

amas yuradRebas aravin aqcevs, magram iq

mitovebuli soflebi, vxedav, gamococxldeba.

vimeoreb: gamosavali CrdiloeTSia! xolo cecxli,

sanam bolomde ar gamowvavs gadamxmar

miwas, manamde, vxedav, ar SeCerdeba.

mTavars ki, iciT, ras vxedav? ra ziansac

ruseTi saqarTvelos ayenebs, asmagad ubrunebs

kosmosi ukan. es jer kidev 1987 wels

viwinaswarmetyvele, merec xSirad vimeorebdi,

rom

ruseTs is sisxli, rac saqarTveloSi

daRvara, sakuTar saxlSi taifunad

gadaeqceva.

ruseTi, vxedav, momavalSi moulodnelad

Secvlis politikas. icvleba maTi mTavrobac.

vxedav didi pirovnebis sikvdils _ ara

erTis, aramed ramdenimesi; erTmaneTs mihyvebian.

es is xalxia, vinc ruseTis politika

CixSi Seiyvana da Tavisi uniWobiTa da siborotiT

rusi xalxi urTules mdgomareobaSi

Cayara. ase rom, vxedav, ruseTi didad

ar glovobs maT! rusi xalxi fiqrobs, rom

es RmerTi sjiT maT, magram ratom? im

codvebis gamo, rac maT Caidines mTels

kavkasiaSi sxva xalxebTan, erebTan mimarTeba-

Si da rasac dResac ganagrZoben. es kidev

rbilad naTqvami sityvebia. mokled, ruseTi

yvelaferze pasuxs agebs.

20 agvisto.

globaluri daTboba, ra Tqma unda, did

cvlilebebs moitans dedamiwaze. mkveTrad

icvleba TviTon bunebac, magram vxedav, es

pirvelad ar xdeba. es yovelTvis meordeba

im saukuneebSi, roca ganviTarebis done aRwevs

kulminacias. magaliTad, radiaciuli nivTierebebi

imarxeba miwaSi, zRvebsa da okeaneebSi.

es uamravi saxeobis viTom narCenebi, vxedav,

cocxal organizms hgavs. igi sunTqavs da

adamiani bolomde ver aqrobs. amitom specialur

samarxebSi inaxaven, magram es arafers

Svelis _ isini mainc moqmedeben, iwyeba

siTburi energiis mZlavri gamoyofa, rac

mere iwvevs vulkanebis amofrqvevas, miwisZvrebs,

aseve wyaldidobebsa da did cecxls.

ase vxedav da es asec aris asi procentiT.

adamiani ki uZluria, es yvelaferi Caaqros,

sanam TviTon buneba ar dawynardeba, anu es

radiaqtiuli nivTierebebi (modiT, ase davarqvaT,

raTa kargad gadmogceT, ras da

rogor vxedav) kosmosSi ar gaifanteba. faqtobrivad,

dedamiwa, romelic cocxali organizmia,

uaryofiT energiebs da marTlac

nagavs ibertyavs, sufTavdeba da axali sicocxlisTvis

emzadeba. ra Tqma unda, pirvel

rigSi, aq kosmosis energiebia mTavari. ase

rom, vxedav, dedamiwa sufTavdeba, sruli am

sityvis mniSvnelobiT.

didi dartyma elis momavalSi CineTs.

adidebuli mdinareebi TiTqmis mTel teritorias

moicavs. amas Zlieri miwisZvrebic

daerTveba. Tqven wamoidgineT, vxedav, rom

bevri gadarCeba.

aseve itboreba TiTqmis mTeli indoeTi,

wyals miaqvs yvelaferi.

TurqeTSi miwisZvrebi _ damangreveli _

da wyaldidobebi.

evropas isev wylis didi talRa gadauvlis.

temperaturis didi cvalebadoba gamoiwvevs

Zlier nerviul Sokebs. iq mcxovreb

adamianebs Zalian gauWirdebaT, vxedav.

amerikisTvis bunebis amgvari movlenebi

ucxo ar aris, magram vxedav, maTi simZlavre

orjer izrdeba da amerikelebsac mouwevT

amis gadatana. Tumca isini ufro mobilizebulebi

da momzadebulebi arian, vidre ruseTi.

ruseTisTvis Zalian saSiSia cecxli. frTxilad!

cecxli, vxedav, ar Camqrala.

rac Seexeba saqarTvelos, vxedav,

saqarTveloc ganicdis bunebis Semotevebs.

magram es is ar aris,

rac msoflios sxva qveynebSi datrialdeba,

vinaidan saqarTvelo,

zustad vici da vxedav, `noes kidobania!~

saqarTvelo bunebis risxvas

gadaurCeba. es asea asi procentiT.

vxedav, is qveynebi, romlebic mdidaria

wylis maragiT, gadarCebian! ucnauria? magram

ase vxedav! da saerTod, visac aqvs

kosmiuri energiis niSani, isini gadarCebian.

es exebaT adamianebsac da qveynebsac. diax,

aris iseTi qveynebi, sadac didi siborote

duRs. iq kosmiur niSans ar vxedav da isini

miwis pirisagan aRigvebian. ase rom, bunebaSi

yvelaferi kanonzomieria. adamianis mier dagrovil

nagavs buneba asufTavebs, vxedav.

bunebis aseTi cvlilebebi ramdenime wlis

win viwinaswarmetyvele. yvelaferi sruldeba

asi procentiT. ase rom, gadaxedeT Zvel,

oci wliswinandel winaswarmetyvelebebs, romlebic

yvela kiTxvaze gagcemT pasuxs (Tumca,

isic unda aRvniSno, rom bevrad adrec

maqvs uamravi ram nawinaswarmetyvelebi).

saqarTvelos yvela piroba aqvs saimisod,

rom puric davTesoT, simindic da sxva

uamravi marcvleuli kulturac. yvelaferi

xarobs Cvens madlian miwaze. ufro metic,

mesaqonleoba, mefrinveleoba ganvaviTaroT, Cai

Tu citrusebi moviyvanoT. 1994 wlis 1 aprilis

winaswarmetyvelebaSi, romelic soflis

meurneobas Seexeba, amomwuravi pasuxia gacemuli

am Temaze.

diax, qveynebi, romlebic bunebis risxvas

ver gadaurCebian, miiReben did dartymas,

saqarTvelo ki gadarCeba. aseTia winaswarmetyveleba,

romelic zedmiwevniT zustad asruldeba.

vxedav, momavalSi, Tavidan TiToorola

qveyanaSi, manqanebze uars

ityvian da cxenebiT ivlian, faetonebiT,

velosipedebiT, mokled,

imiT, rasac benzini ar sWirdeba.

iqneba mzis energiiT damuxtuli manqanebi

da a.S. adamiani uars ityvis yvelafer imaze,

rasac boli asdis, anu gamonabolqvi aqvs.

gamonabolqvi Zalze saSiSi, nomer pirveli

mteria dedamiwisTvisac da adamianebisTvisac.

dedamiwa, vxedav, saxes icvlis; aseve adamianebic!

bevri ram Seicvleba.

gansakuTrebiT minda aRvniSno, rom vxedav

uamrav mecnierul aRmoCenas, rac bevr rames

Secvlis da vxedav, es adamianebisTvis ufro

komfortulia. momavalSi adamiani eZebs suf-

Ta adgilebs. aRar surs ise cxovreba, rogorc

adre cxovrobda. is komforti, romelsac

adamiani iyenebda, didi ubedurebis momtani

aRmoCnda aramxolod dedamiwisTvis, aramed,

pirvel rigSi, adamianebisTvis da aseve yvela

sulierisTvis _ cxovelia es Tu frinveli.

miiRon ekologiurad sufTa sakvebi,

isunTqon sufTa haeri _ ai, ras eZebs

momavalSi adamiani. es Zalze seriozuli

Temaa, romelsac bunebis didi cvla kidev

ufro daaCqarebs.

minda aRvniSno, rom saqarTvelodan

ufro metad wyaros sufTa wyali

gaedineba da mniSvnelovan adgils

ikavebs msoflio bazarze. jer kidev

1984 wels viwinaswarmetyvele, rom

dedamiwaze wylis ukmarisoba iqneboda,

saqarTvelo ki mdidaria am

macocxlebeli siTxiT, romelic arasdros

daSreba.

saqarTvelo, vxedav, TiTqmis inarCunebs klimats,

faunasa da floras! araviTar katastroful

cvlilebas ar vxedav da tyuilad nu

aSinebT xalxs, viTom mecnierebo (zogierTebs

vgulisxmob). araferi gagegebaT. male Tqvenc

agexdebaT niRbebi, gansakuTrebiT ki zogierT

uniWo da matyuara viTom parafsiqologs, es

sityva ras niSnavs, isic rom ar icis. arada,

aseTi cneba _ parafsiqologia _ kosmosSi

ar arsebobs. diax, merwmuneT, es asea da amas

momavalSi mTeli msoflio aRiarebs.

dedamiwaze ibadeba erTi fenomeni

da ara fenomenebi. kosmiuri energia

da winaswarmetyvelebis didi

Zala aqvs erT fenomens _ qarTvel

winaswarmetyvel lela kakulias

da ara TviTmarqvia fenomenebs.

movida dro Riad dapirispirebisa.

wina planze `respublikelebi~

wamoiweven.

isini uamrav braldebas

wauyeneben `demokrat~ prezidents

da vxedav, umtkiceben

kidevac. bolos imasac

ityvian, rom prezidents

politikisa araferi esmis

da arc ainteresebs.

4


ase rom, tyuilad nu gairjebiT. kosmosi

ar mogcemT xalxis motyuebis saSualebas.

udides dartymas miiRebT isinic, vinc am

avantiuraSi monawileobT. diax, vxedav, kosmosi

Sav wreSi gketavT, saidanac gamosavali

ar gaqvT. es kanonzomieria. Tavad airCieT

es gza, vinaidan simarTles ar RebulobT.

Tumca, esec Tqveni bedisweraa.

kidev erTi da umTavresi kanoni, adamianebo:

dedamiwaze ar iswavleba energiebis mar-

Tva, naTelxilva da sxva. es udidesi tyuilia,

udidesi.

zekosmiuri ganzomilebidan ibadeba

da modis mxolod erTi fenomeni,

msgavsi adamianisa. amin! vinc

gaigebs, is gadarCeba!!!

saamisod ki mxolod kargad dakvireba,

Tvalyuris devneba, kargad mosmena, informaciebis

yuradRebiT miReba da swori analizis

gakeTebaa saWiro. es Zalze advilia da

mniSvnelovania SenTvis, adamiano. aseTi dakvirveba

uamrav problemas agacilebT, gansakuTrebiT,

momavlis SiSs! frTxilad!

Tumca vxedav, rom kosmosi male yvelasa

da yvelafers Tavis adgils miuCens. bevri

ram moxdeba dedamiwaze, magram iseTi araferi,

rac adamianma ar icis. buneba yovelTvis,

saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi boboqrobda da

icvlida saxes. axali araferi xdeba, kidev

vimeoreb. vulkanebi male Caqreba da miiZinebs,

gadamwvari tyeebis adgilze axali

tye gaizrdeba _ ufro Zlieri da lamazi,

mindor-velebi abibindeba ferad-feradi,

ulamazesi yvavilebiT... mokled, yvelaferi

kalapotSi Cadgeba. Sen ki, adamiano, amas

yovelives gonivrulad unda moepyro da

moixmaro. meti araferi!

Cems sayvarel samSoblos, saqarTvelos

ki ufro meti cvlilebebi

politikuri xaziT elis. amas Cemi

qarTvelebi miCveulebi arian, magram

es cvlilebebi ukve dadebi-

Tia. ibadeba axali, Zlieri saxelmwifo

_ namdvilad demokratiuli

qarTuli saxelmwifo da amas veraviTari

Zala ver SeaCerebs. amin!!!

22 seqtemberi.

vxedav, momavalSi amerikis mTavrobaSi Zlieri

ganxeTqileba moxdeba. politikosebi TamaSs

veRar ganagrZoben. imdenad seriozuli sirTuleebi

wamoiWreba amerikul politikaSi, rom

Cumi politikuri TamaSis gagrZelebas azri

aRar aqvs.

movida dro Riad dapirispirebisa.

wina planze `respublikelebi~ wamoiweven.

isini uamrav braldebas

wauyeneben `demokrat~ prezidents

da vxedav, umtkiceben kidevac. bolos

imasac ityvian, rom prezidents

politikisa araferi esmis

da arc ainteresebs.

vxedav, xalxic amave azrisaa. diax, amerikelebis

didi nawili miiCnevs, rom susti prezidenti

hyavT. amerikis mTavrobis wevri `demokratebic~,

vxedav, eTanxmebian am azrs! maT sakuTari

gundis wevri prezidenti aRar mowonT. ise,

arc Tavidan mowondaT. igi ver Rebulobs

myar gadawyvetilebebs, ver dgams Zlier politikur

nabijebs. saiT midis yvelaferi? da

male am kiTxvaze Riad upasuxeben.

imis cqeraSi, rogor sustdeba

ruseTi, TviTon amerikac fexdafex

misdevs mas da sustdeba. yvelaferi

kiTxvis niSnis qveS dgeba. bevr

sakiTxSi, romlebic natos xaziT

unda gadawyvetiliyo, araswori

politika gaatares. aman amerikis,

natos imiji, vxedav, sagrZnoblad

Seasusta da vakuumSi moamwyvdia.

samxedroebi momavalSi iwyeben sakuTari azris

gamoTqmas, rom mTavroba rTul mdgomareoba-

Si ayenebs natos da msoflioSi misi imiji

TiTqmis ukve nuls utoldeba. amis Semxedvare

muslimebi ki frTebs Slian da iseT gadawyvetilebebs

Rebuloben msoflio politikaSi,

rasac ramdenime wlis win ver gabedavdnen.

isini xmamaRla, ironiiT ganacxadeben, rom

nato TiTqmis aRar arsebobs. es didi dartyma

iqneba aramxolod amerikisTvis, aramed

mTeli msofliosTvis. da ai aq, am cinikur

gancxadebas, romelic amerikis mTavrobas gamoafxizlebs,

didi cvlilebebi mosdevs. naTlad

gamoCndeba nayofi amerikis susti politikisa,

romelic Secvlas moiTxovs!

amis dasturad muslimebi, vxedav,

did teraqtebs moawyoben niu-iorkSi,

aseve vaSingtonSic. frTxilad!

es maTi siZlieris damamtkicebeli faqtia,

ase fiqroben. vxedav, aseT Tavxedur qmedebebs

amerika ar apatiebs muslimebs. vxedav,

isini iwyeben momavalSi muslimebis masiur

deportacias. sababi ki saukeTeso aqvT da

am Sanss amerikis mTavroba xelidan ar gauSvebs.

araviTari daTmobebi da demokratiis

TamaSebi. saocaria, magram ase vxedav, rom

mTels kontinents daasufTaveben. Tu ginda

darCe, unda Tqva, rom xar qristiani amerikeli,

anu sarwmunoeba Seicvalo! mokled, es operacia

did masStabebs moicavs, magram mainc

gaatareben amerikelebi da xels veravin SeuSlis

imitom, rom mTeli saqristiano emxroba da

eTanxmeba amerikis mTavrobis am gadawyvetilebas!

mokled, magari qaosi iqneba.

vxedav, is azri, rom amerikis gavlena

muslimur samyaroSi sustdeba, amerikis

mTavrobaSi mniSvnelovan saubrebs gamoiwvevs.

saWiroa `rkinis xeli~, anu xelisufali! ase-

Ti prezidenti ki Zalian male da droulad

moevlineba amerikas. igi, ase vTqvaT, Tavdayira

daayenebs amerikul politikas da

zustad vxedav, es politika gadaarCens amerikas

da amerikel xalxs muslimebis agresiisgan!

diax, bevri dagegmili teraqti aRmoifxvreba,

prezidenti urTules sakiTxebs,

Tundac omebis gziT, magram mainc

gadawyvets. mas maincdamainc ar

uyvars molaparakebebi, romlebic

usaSvelod grZeldeba. igi Zalian

swraf gadawyvetilebebs Rebulobs

da arc aravis ekiTxeba. is amerikis

prezidentia da gadawyvetilebebsac

is Rebulobs. marTalia, prezidenti

gunduri principebis momxrea,

magram, roca yvela ukan

ixevs da raime rTuli, sapasuxismgeblo

sakiTxis gadaWris momenti

dgeba, igi sakuTar Tavze iRebs

yvelafers da sapasuxo Zlier

dartymebs ganaxorcielebs. rom ara

aseTi prezidenti, amerikis siZlieris

mze nel-nela eSveboda da

qreboda.

prezidenti gansakuTrebiT irans upirispirdeba.

igi, vxedav, momavalSic aucileblad daartyams

irans. uranis gamdidrebis survili survilad

darCeba irans. aq gansakuTrebiT ruseTis

roli gamoikveTeba; roli, romelic amerikis

winaaRmdegaa mimarTuli, rogorc yovelTvis

iyo da momavalSic iqneba. amerikis prezidents

xalxi `rkinis kacs~ _ anu `rkinis

xels~ daarqmevs. pirdapir vxedav, igi muslimuri

samyaros mteria, gamomdinare maTi

qmedebebidan! arcerT teraqts ar SearCens

aravis! teroristebs bolomde Cayveba, sanam

ar gaanadgurebs maT. ise Cans, rom mTeli

msoflios teroristebs daupirispirdeba da

am brZolaSi gamarjvebulic darCeba. Tu saWiro

gaxda, maT gasanadgureblad mTel armias miuSvebs.

aseTi brZola karga xania, ar gamoucxadebiaT

teroristebisTvis. mokled, es is prezidentia,

romelic amerikas sWirdeba.

Zalian rTuli periodebi elis amerikas,

magram am sirTuleebs mainc daZlevs. es

hgavs im periods, roca sabWoTa kavSiri

daiSala da daingra. amerika male daaRwevs

Tavs am kriziss, xolo prezidenti Zalian

mkacr da daundobel politikas gaatarebs.

prezidenti-rkinis xeli gansakuTrebiT

ruseTs daupirispirdeba da

sakmaod Riadac!

sworic iqneba, vinaidan is politika, romelsac

ruseTi gaatarebs, gansakuTrebiT, aRmosavleTis

qveynebSi, TviTon ruseTisTvisac

damRupvelia.

pirveli gasrola muslimebis mxridan

_ samizne ruseTia!

bolos ruseTi mainc dauTmobs amerikas,

magram manamde erTmaneTs did politikur

oms gamoucxadeben. Tumca, rogorc ramdenime

wlis win viwinaswarmetyvele,

ruseTi da amerika gaerTiandebian,

anu ruseTi asi procentiT Seva

natoSi.

amas gverds ver auvlian. ruseTi marto

ver gaarTmevs Tavs muslimebs! es Sedegia

dRevandeli araswori politikisa!

29 seqtemberi.

vxedav, opozicia brZolas iwyebs, brZolas

sxva opoziciur partiebTan. maTi politika

TavSive ganwirulia. da mTavri: xalxs

maTi ar sjera, vinaidan igive xdeba, rac

iyo warsulSi. isini erTad verasdros mo-

Zoven. Tu romelime partia raRac qulebs

moipovebs da raRac safexuriT maRla aiwevs,

imave wams iwyeba maTi lanZRva da

Caqolva. mokled, maTi gaerTianeba gamoricxulia.

ase cal-calke irbenen manam, sanam ar

daiRlebian. isini sxvadasxva enaze saubroben

da vxedav, verasdros gaugeben erTmaneTs.

momavalSi modian axalgazrda, energiuli

politikosebi, modian

saqarTvelos aRorZinebis programiT.

ai maT xalxi, mTeli saqarTvelo

miiRebs!

dRes ki igive meordeba, rac iyo warsulSi!

qarTuli politika momavalSi gamarjvebis

droSas aafrialebs. amerika bolomde

lobirebs saqarTvelos da ruseTTan Ria

dapirispirebas iwyebs; aseve evropac. ruseT-

Tan romel garigebazea laparaki, roca Tvi-

Ton ruseTi daSlisa da daqucmacebis pirzea,

suls Rafavs, magram saqarTvelos xels mainc

ar uSvebs?! Tumca mainc mouwevs xelis

gaSveba, mouwevs qarTuli miwebis, okupirebuli

teritoriebis daTmoba yovelgvari

vaWrobis gareSe!

momavalSi Sav zRvaze isev vxedav amerikul

samxedro gemebs. amerika Sav zRvas akon-

trolebs, ruseTis azri ki saerTod ar

ainteresebs.

rusulma politikam muslimebi moaZliera.

vxedav evropaSi teraqtebs, romlebzec ityvian,

amaSi rusuli xeli ureviao! magram teraqtebs

ver ganaxorcieleben. bevri saxelmwifo

moimarTeba muslimebis winaaRmdeg. evropa

ki, vxedav, karga xniT gadaketavs kars da

arcerT muslims ar gaaWaWanebs sakuTar saxelmwifoebSi.

rogorc adre viwinaswarmetyvele,

demokratias cota xans daiviwyeben!

minda aRvniSno germaniis roli TurqeT-

Tan mimarTebaSi.

vxedav, evrosabWoSi misaRebad

TurqeTma unda aRiaros da Seasrulos

is valdebulebebi, rac maT

evrogaerTianebis kars gauRebs. magram

es iseTi pirobebia, romelTac

TurqeTi ver ki ara, ar Seasrulebs!

es Seexeba qurTebs, kvipross, romelsac

TurqeTi ar Tmobs, magram evropa imeds

utovebs. dro ki garbis da yvelafers, anu

politikas, Tavisi Sedegebi moaqvs.

rogorc 1993 wels viwinaswarmetyvele, Turqe-

Ti iranis politikas ar iziarebs. igi ganze

gadgeba, ar Caereva, vinaidan yvelam icis,

rom irani, saboloo jamSi, verc amerikas

moereva da verc evropas. amitom vxedav, rom

momavalSi zogierTi muslimuri saxelmwifo,

romlebic dRes mxars

ubamen irans, miatoveben mas, vinaidan

dartyma maTac moeliT, anu

TiTqmis ganadgureba.

es iqneba daundobeli omebi, ase vTqvaT,

brZola wesebis gareSe!

mesame msoflio omi dedamiwas Searyevs!

bunebac isev aboboqrdeba: isev wyaldidobebi,

miwisZvrebi, isev iRviZeben Zalian saSiSi

vulkanebi. mokled, momavalSi dedamiwis reliefi

mkveTrad Seicvleba.

Cndeba axali kunZulebi, axali miwebi.

vxedav, bunebaSi axali saxeobis

cxovelebi da frinvelebi gamoCndebian.

isini Zalian lamazebi arian.

es ar aris zRapari. es asprocentiani

realobaa. kidev vimeoreb, aseTi cvla yovelTvis

xdeboda warsulSi da ase iqneba momavalSic.

politikac aboboqrebul bunebas emsgavseba.

bevr saxelmwifoSi didi cvlilebebi moxdeba

axlo momavalSi.

amerikis mTavrobis cvla rom aucilebelia,

amas yvela moazrovne

adamiani xvdeba; xvdeba, rom dRevandelma

prezidentma seriozulad daasusta

amerikis politika da ukan

dawia. ase ityvis mTeli amerika.

imasac aRniSnaven, rom didi Secdoma

iyo misi prezidentad moyvana!

momavalSi msoflio politika ufro moemwyvdeva

CixSi! vimeoreb asjer danaxuls, rom

amerikis mTavrobaSi `respublikelebi~

modian! isini, vxedav, Zalian

xist politikas gaatareben, aravis

da arafers angariSs ar gauweven!

nomer pirveli sakiTxi ki iqneba

muslimebi _ maTi masiuri gasaxleba

kontinentidan.

es sruli simarTlea da ara TamaSi, imitom,

rom muslimTa Tavxedobas sazRvari ar

eqneba. isini brZanebebs asruleben da awyoben

gaugonar teraqtebs. es jer kidev

mravali wlis win viwinaswarmetyvele, rac,

rogorc yvela winaswrametyveleba, aucileblad

asruldeba!

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

jon kilma saTqmeli

Tqva. kongresis

umciresobis fraqciis

mdivanma, romelic

STagonebuli gaxldaT

sakuTari partiis gamarjvebiT

Sualedur

arCevnebSi, ganacxada,

rom wels kongresma

kenWisyraze ar unda

daayenos strategiuli

SeiaraRebis Semcirebis

Sesaxeb axali xelSekruleba,

riTac,

rogorc Cans, bolo

mouRo proeqts, romelic

aSS-is prezidentis baraq obamas TeTr

saxlSi yofnis ori wlis Tavze misi udidesi

sagareo politikuri miRweva SeiZleboda

gamxdariyo. Tuki wlis bolomde kongresi

ar Seecdeba xelSekrulebis kenWisyraze gamotanas,

ianvarSi kidev ufro Semcirdeba warmatebis

Sansi, radgan Semcirdeba demokratiuli

umravlesoba, xolo respublikelTa umciresoba,

romelic didwilad kilis pozicias

iziarebs, gaizrdeba. axla absoluturad

realuria is perspeqtiva, rom axal xelSekrulebas

diplomatiis istoriis nagavsayrelis

gzas gauyeneben.

dimitri trenini

5


1993 weli, 16 maisi, kvira,

dilis 11 saaTi.

irani droebiT CaCumdeba. Sig iranSi

bevri omebisTvisaa momzadebuli da ukmayofilebas

gamoTqvams. iwyeba Sida areuloba

da sanam dawynardebian, droc gaivlis.

iranis meTauri gamoicvleba da modis

didi Savi Zala, anu Zlieri eSmaki. aqedan

daiwyeba da veraviTari Zala ver SeaCerebs

sarwmunoebriv oms.

1993 weli, 13 agvisto,

Ramis 3 saaTi, kojori.

mTavaria gandiddes da gaZlierdes mar-

Tlmadidebeli eklesia, davicvaT jvari,

gadarCes saqristiano, radgan omi, romelsac

vxedavT momavalSi, sarwmunoebrivia.

didi cecxli dainTeba. adamianebi erTmaneTs

gaanadgureben.

2008 weli, 2 aprili.

vxedavT gaerTianebuli qristianebisa da

gaerTianebuli muslimebis did Sejaxebas!

es aris mesame msoflio omi! daimaxsovreT:

am oms daarqmeven `sarwmunoebriv oms~.

lela kakulia

`samyaro icvleba. ufro metic, Tu

koleqtiur qvecnobiers davujerebT, samyaro

manamde arnaxuli katastrofis

zRurblze dgas. iqneba es msoflio omi

Tu lokaluri konfliqtebis jaWvi, jerjerobiT

gaurkvevelia, swored ise, rogorc

gaurkvevelia momavali kataklizmis `Tema~.

omi resursebisTvis Tu gavlenis sferoebisTvis,

saxelmwifoebis omi korporaciebTan

Tu gaugonari, warmoudgeneli masStabebis

religiuri sasaklao...~

es gaxlavT citata erT-erTi sagazeTo

publikaciidan, romelmac swored imitom

dagvainteresa, rom iq mosalodnel sarwmunoebriv

omze _ qristianebsa da muslimebs

Soris _ iyo saubari.

diax, msoflio presa bolo periodSi aqtiurad

alaparakda Temaze, romelic SiSis zars

scems yvelas, vinaidan man realuri konturebi

SeiZina; alaparakda imitom, rom ukve naTlad

da aSkarad gamoikveTa is safrTxe, romelsac

lela kakulia didi xania winaswarmetyvelebs

da, raRa Tqma unda, uzustesadac axasiaTebs

da aRwers; alaparakda da daskvnebic gakeTda

(axla es ukve Zalze iolia politologebisTvisac,

JurnalistebisTvisac da nebismierisTvisac,

visac analizis unari da survili

gaaCnia): religiuri omi kars gvikakunebs,

xolo frontis xazi msoflio islamze gaivlis,

vinaidan swored igi iqca yvelaze saSiS

mimdinareobad saukunis dasawyisSive.

radikalurad ganwyobili muslimi ideologebi

ukve SeTanxmdnen, vin aris `satana~,

dasavleTSi ki bevri jer kidev bolomde

ver garkveula, rogori iqneba mesame msoflio

omi. amerikasa da evropaSic zogs

miaCnia, rom momavali katastrofa iqneba ara

religiuri, aramed socialuri. maTi azriT

brZola gaimarTeba simdidresa da siRaribes

Soris. arian iseTebic, romlebic fiqroben,

rom erTmaneTs globalizaciis momxreebi da

mowinaaRmdegeebi Seetakebian. am situaciaSi

saqristiano _ upirvelesad, romis kaTolikuri

eklesia _ cdilobs, diplomatia

gamoiCinos da jerjerobiT ar esxmis Tavs

islams, Tumca konkurenciisTvis ki emzadeba

_ cdilobs, daarwmunos msoflio sazogadoeba,

rom qristianoba bevrad ufro Semwynarebeli

da misaRebi religiaa.

da mainc, mavanTa gaurkvevlobis miuxedavad,

`mesame msoflio omi iqneba religiuri!~ _

ase sjera msoflio sazogadoebis umetesobas,

amisken miiswrafvis islamuri samyaro da amas

lamis sami aTeuli welia winaswarmetyvelebs

lela kakulia; winaswarmetyvelebs im periodidan,

rodesac yvelaze realurad ara islamur

da qristianul samyaroTa Sejaxeba, aramed

amerikis SeerTebul Statebsa da sabWoeTs

Soris omi Canda.

`es ar iqneba brZola damoukideblobisTvis,

arc sabWoTa yaidis saxalxo-ganmaTavisuflebeli

an monobis sawinaaRmdego moZraoba. es

faSizmis axali formaa: Sen unda ganadgurde

imitom, rom ucxo xar da ewinaaRmdegebi

samyaros mowyobis Cemeul ideas!~ _ ase

fiqrobs cnobili Jurnalisti matvei ganapolski,

romelic sakuTar statiaSi wvrilad aanalizebs

islamizaciidan momdinare saSiSroebas.

misi azriT, islamizaciis safrTxisgan

dazRveuli arcerTi saxelmwifo ar aris.

ukrainaSi aris yirimi da misi problemebi,

safrangeTSi uzarmazari muslimuri saTvistomoa,

igivea inglisSi. germaniaSi TiTqos

mSvidi, `gamosuli~ Turqebi cxovroben, magram

vin icis, raRac momentSi risken mouwodebs

maT axladmovlenili adgilobrivi

radikali imami.

`Tanamedrove islamuri teroris winaaRmdeg

brZolas bevri ram uSlis xels: `boevikTa~

struquris `horizontalurobac~ (maT

ar aqvT saerTo sabrZolo da ideologiuri

rac rac ukve ukve moxda

moxda

xelmZRvaneli centri) da dasaxuli miznisadmi

midgomis Taviseburebac _ TiToeuls Seu-

Zlia ise ganmartos islami, rogorc Tavad

surs da miznad isaxavs imas, rac surs.

Tumca xiluli gansxvavebebis miuxedavad, yvela

fanatikoss aerTianebs erTi ram: saku-

Tari ideebis gamo isini mzad arian aafeTqon

sxvebic da aifeTqon Tavic.

kavkasiis kargad mcodnem, iulia latininam

aseTi magaliTi moiyvana: `aT-Taqfir valhijras~

moZRvreba egvipteSi gaCnda, rogorc

`Zma-muslimTa~ ganStoeba da imiTaa RirsSesaniSnavi,

rom bin ladenis mokvlas cdilobda

rwmenis arasakmarisi sisufTavis gamo...

ras aswavlian isini? upirvelesad imas,

rom TiToeuli adamiani, romelic bolomde

ar asrulebs islamis moTxovnebs, anu ar

loculobs dReSi xuTjer da a.S. ar aris

WeSmariti muslimi, rom nebismieri adamiani,

romelic TanamSromlobs saxelmwifosTan, ar

aris WeSmariti muslimi; rom nebismieri muslimi,

romelic asrulebs pirvel or kategorias,

magram ar miiCnevs araWeSmarit muslimebad

maT, vinc ar asrulebs am kategoriebs,

Tavadac araWeSmariti muslimia. es

standartuli vahabituri `nakrebia~. ufro

Sors midian `TaqfiriTebi~. maT miaCniaT,

rom Tuki konspiraciis mizniT isini aramarTlmorwmuneTa

Soris cxovroben, maT ufleba

aqvT daarRvion yvela kanoni, anu Caicvan is,

rac surT, ar ilocon, dalion, mowion da

yvelaferi es alahis saxeliTa da samsaxurad.

gansakuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia, rom msgavsi

qmedeba ar gaxlavT romelime partiis an

xelmZRvaneli piris brZanebis Sesruleba. es

sulis siRrmidan amomavali religiuri ideis

mimdevrobaa da swored amitomac aris

igi amouZirkvavi. swored fanatikosebma gamoatares

wamebebsa da sikvdiliT dasjebSi

qristianobisa Tu iudaizmis ideebi. Sedegad

_ qristianoba zeimobs, israeli ki kvlav

gaCnda msoflio rukaze.

islamSi yvelaferi dafarulia da Tu

daakvirdebiT, paradoqss aRmoaCenT imaSi,

rac aqamde gegonaT, rom icodiT. aviRoT

Tundac irani, romelic gandevnil saxelmwifod

iTvleba teroristTa finansirebisa

da birTvuli iaraRis Seqmnis mcdelobis

gamo. sul cota xnis win seriozulad ganixileboda

`erayuli variantis~ Tema _ iranis

myisieri okupacia da reJimis cvla. Zalismieri

variantis momxreebi irwmunebodnen,

rom Teirans cudad SeiaraRebuli samasaTasiani

armia hyavs, romelic natos jarebisgan

Semdgar dasavlur koalicias win ver

aRudgeboda. magram Zalis gamoyenebaze saubrebi

TandaTan Cacxra da es arc aravis gakvirvebia.

aRmoCnda, rom iranSi erTi ki ara, ori

armiaa. da meore, romelic 360 aTasi jariskacisgan

Sedgeba, gaxlavT `islamuri revoluciis

mcvelTa~ armia. swored es armia,

romelic piradad iranis sulier lidersa

da mTavarsardals aiaTola homeneis emor-

Cileba, gaxlavT mTavari. da es armia SeiaraRebulia

yvelaze Tanamedrove iaraRiT,

tankebiTa da aviaciiT. Tumca es mainc ar

aris yvelaferi. radganac `mcvelebi~ armiaa,

romelic icavs ara teritorias, aramed ideas,

mas hyavs rezervi, romelic mzadaa ramdenime

saaTSi aisxas iaraRi. da amgvar `rezervSi~

irans milioni adamiani hyavs.

amgvarad, iranis winaaRmdeg SeiaraRebuli

operacia, es aris Sejaxeba milionnaxevrian,

SesaniSnavad SeiaraRebul armiasTan, romelic

icavs sakuTar teritoriasa da rwmenas.

samyaro TandaTan xvdeba, rom `islamuri

proeqti~ _ es aris `araswori~ civilizaciis

ganadgurebisa da misi `swori~, islamisturi

civilizaciiT Secvlis proeqti...~

2008 weli, 23 ianvari,

dilis 9 saaTi.

ruseTis Tavi fiqrobs, rom igi sakmaod

ganaTlebulia da araferi sWirs

saimiso, rom Zvelma mTavrobam aswavlos,

Tu rogor unda saxelmwifos marTva. igi

televiziiTac ityvis amas da yvela

gaigonebs. igi, pirvel yovlisa, putinis

mtrebs Semoirigebs da arc putinis megobrebs

gadaikidebs mtrad.

2008 weli, 13 ivlisi.

vxedavT, politikuri kursi Seicvleba.

ase vTqvaT, kremlis karze, Seiqmneba

biznesmenTa axali wre. es Zalze Zlieri

Zalaa. vxedavT, axla yvela putinzea

ganawyenebuli, arada, adre mis mxares

iyvnen. dRes vladimeri sul sxva TamaSs

TamaSobs _ Zalian saSiSs maTTvis. isini

xvdebian, rom putini maT srul ganad-

6


ac rac ukve ukve moxda

moxda

gurebas aRwevs, raTa sakuTari biznessfero

gaafarTovos saxelmwifos interesebis

saxeliT~.

lela kakulia

`mixail proxorovisa da roman abramovi-

Cis msgavsad sxva bevri rusi oligarqi

kvlav moTminebiT xlarTavs qsels vladimer

putinis CrdilSi. ukve ramdenime kviraa, rac

genadi timCenko, iuri kovalCuki da arkadi

rotenbergi aaqtiureben savaWro-safinanso

operaciebs da afarToveben sakuTar biznesimperiebs~.

_ wers franguli gamocemis `le

figaro~ korespondenti pier avrili.

irkveva, rom pirveli

da yvelaze amoucnobi

am sameulidan navTobtreidingul

kompanias

`gunvori~ xelmZRvanelobs

da apirebs, rom ruse-

Tis rkinigzis filia-

lis mTavari aqcioneri

gaxdes. es kapitalis

brwyinvale ganTavsebaa

navTobis gadasazidad,

romelic mdinaresaviT moedineba. 2000 wels

sruliad ucnobi treideri genadi timCenko,

dRes ukve akontrolebs rusuli navTobis

mniSvnelovan nawils.

meore _ bankiri _

apirebs finansebi

`TboeleqtrocentralSi~

Cados da moskovi-sanktpeterburgis

samomavlo

trasis msxvili monakveTebi

aaSenos.

am proeqts uerTdeba

mesamec. igi ukve agebs

milsadenebs `gazpromisTvis~.

energetika, finansebi

da betoni _ ai is

sami sveti, romelze

dayrdnobac surs yvela am biznesmens. timCenko

da rotenbergi leningradSi arian dabadebulebi

da amitom maT `piterelebis~

araoficialur klubs miakuTvneben, romelSic

Tavad vladimer putini da dmitri medvedevi

Sedian. arkadi rotenbergi imavdroulad Ziudos

klubis xelmZRvanelia, romlis sapatio

prezidentic putini gaxlavT.

frangi koresponden-

arkadi

rotenbergi

genadi

timCenko

iuri

kovalCuki

tis dakvirvebiT, am sami

biznesmenis mier Catarebuli

yvela finanasuri

operacia vladimer

vladimeroviCis uSualo

CareviT xorcieldeba.

`rosteqnologiis~ xelmZRvaneli

sergei Cemezovi

da `ruseTis

rkinigzis~ prezidenti

vladimer iakunini ufro

Tanamedrove frTis war-

momadgenlebad miiCnevian. maTi gavlena da

kavSirebi administraciaSi imdenad Zlieria,

rom Tavisuflad SeuZliaT mowydnen mfarvels;

ufro metic, rogorc politolog stanislav

belkovskis miaCnia, `putinis kraxsac ki aRar

eqneba maTTvis tragikuli Sedegebi~.

mravali adamianis azriT, romlebic mimdinare

procesebs akvirdebian, dmitri medvedevi

iwyebs sakuTari, daaxloebul biznesmenTa qselis

Camoyalibebas. igi kremlSi avtoritetis

SeqmniTaa dakavebuli da uaxlovdeba oligarqebs,

ekonomikis bosebs, fsons debs maTze

da brZolas ucxadebs Cinovnikebs: mas surs

sabolood gamodevnos isini rusuli kompaniebis

direqtorTa sabWoebidan.

`gazpromis~ yofili menejeri usmanovi medvedevis

ZiriTad sayrdenad iTvleba. igi metalurgiuli

koncernis mflobelia da medvdevis yvelaze

SeZlebul megobrad miiCneven. `forbsis~ CamonaTvalSi

usmanovi ruseTis umdidres adamianTa Soris

mecxramete adgilzea da misi qoneba 9.5 miliard

dolaradaa Sefasebuli.

`medvedevis sayrdenad mxolod usmanovs ar

miiCneven. arian sxva adamianebic, romlebmac

fuli `gazpromSi~ iSoves~. _ ambobs ruse-

Tis ekonomikis skolis reqtori sergei gurievi.

marTalia, ar SeiZleba `gazpromi~

mTlianobaSi ganvixiloT, rogorc medvedevis

sayrdeni, magram prezidents SeuZlia miiyvanos

iq Tavisi proteJeebi. zogierT maTgan-

Tan is studentobis periodidan megobrobs

da absoluturad endoba maT.

aviRoT, magaliTad ilia eliseevi, sididiT

mesame safinanso institutis, `gazprombankis~

mmarTvelobis Tavmjdomaris moadgile;

an konstantin CuiCenko, romelic erTi

periodi `gazpromis~ iuridiuli departamentis

xelmZRvaneli iyo da `gazpromis~ mravalricxovani

Svilobili kompaniebis direqtor-

Ta sabWosac xelmZRvanelobda. medvedevma igi

kremlSi sakuTar mrCevlad gadaiyvana.

zemoT ukve vTqviT, rom medvedevma Cinovnikebs

brZola gamoucxada. man wamoayena winadadeba,

rom saxelmwifo mosamsaxureebma unda

datovon postebi saxelmwifo koncernebis direqtorTa

sabWoebSi. amas garda, mTavrobis ekonomikur

blokSi araerTi Tanamoazre daniSna.

`medvedevis xelisuflebSi mosvlis momentidan

biznesi frTxilad, magram mainc wyvets

erT kalaTSi `kvercxebis dadebas~ da Tanda-

Tan miemarTeba medvedevis Sesaxvedrad~. _

miaCnia gurievs. umsxvilesi rusuli satelituri

kompaniis wamyvanma menejerma, romelmac

vinaobis gamxela ar isurva, germanul gamocemasTan

`di velT~ saubarSi aRniSna: `Cven

vcdilobT, kargi urTierToba SevinarCunoT

orivesTan. magram adre Tu gvian TiToeuli

maTgani sakuTar interesebs ahyveba da me

Zalian gamikvirdeba, Tu medvedevi saprezidento

Zalauflebas srulad ar gamoiyenebs~.

dmitri medvedevma Tavisi saprogramo sityviT

konstruqciuli signali gaugzavna mewarmeebs

da Tavi biznesmenebis megobrad da

samarTlebrivi saxelmwifos momxred warmoaCina.

rusi ekonomistebi da politologebi

fiqroben, rom TiTqmis yvela oligarqi

dainteresebulia im speqtriT, romelsac

medvedevi asaxierebs. Tumca aqamde isini Zalze

frTxilobdnen, vinaidan maTSi xadarkovskis

dapatimrebisa da `iukosis~ danawevrebis Semdeg

myarad, Zvlebamde gajda SiSi. isini

aqamde ar icnobdnen TamaSis axal wesebs da

ar icodnen, realurad vis xelSi iyo Zalaufleba.

axla ki...

2009 weli, 27 aprili, Tbilisi.

afxazeTi Zalian daiZabeba. afsuebi naTlad

xedaven, Tu saiT midis rusuli politika.

xvdebian da aramxolod xedaven, rom

isini afsuebi, rusebs saerTod ar ainteresebT,

Tundac erT dRes gamwydaran!

bolos ise Cans, vxedavT, rom iq mcxovreb

somxebs ufro didi pativi da privilegiebi

aqvT, vidre afsuebs. es aris rusuli

politikis erTi nawili imisa, rom afsuebi

da somxebi erTmaneTs daetakebian da

samkvdro-sasicocxlod gadaekidebian erTmaneTs.

qarTvelebis siZulvils somxebis

siZulvili gadafaravs. mokled, erTmaneTs

ar daindoben, wava patar-patara omebi,

TiTqmis yoveldRe diversiebia da midi,

gaige, vin awyobs afeTqebebs?

2009 weli, 15 maisi, Tbilisi.

aseve vxedavT, didi omebi imarTeba

afsuebsa da somxebs Soris, erTmaneTs ar

daindoben. vxedavT somxebis mcdelobasa

da did survils, rom afxazeTis deda-

qalaqs _ soxums, daarqvan patara erevani.

isini afxazeTSi avtonomias Txouloben.

mokled, iseTi qaosi iqneba, rom

Tavsa da bolos ver daadgamen (qarTul

miwas yvav-yornebi Semoesivneno, vityviT).

iqneba iseTi Sejaxebebi, rom vxedavT,

somxebi datoveben ZirZvel qarTul miwas

_ afxazeTs. soflebi carieldeba. arcerTi

somexi ar darCeba afxazeTSi.

lelAa kakulia

`saagento `aze.az~ somxur mediaze dayrdnobiT

avrcelebs informacias, rom afxazebs

maTi gasaxleba surT!~ _ iuwyeboda oriode

kviris win qarTuli sainformacio saagento.

saagentos cnobiT, afxazebi somxebisgan

damoukideblobis aRiarebas moiTxoven, winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi imuqrebian, rom somxebs maT

miwaze cxovrebis saSualebas ar miscemen.

vrceldeba informacia, rom aRniSnuli saqmis

kursSi yofila somxeTis xelisuflebac,

Tumca igi ar Cqarobs raime zomebis miRebas,

radgan SiSoben, rom maT mier gadadgmuli

nebismieri nabiji am mimarTulebiT,

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas gaaRizianebs, es

ki javaxeTSi mcxovrebi somxebis mdgomareobas

gaarTulebs.

unda iTqvas, rom afxazebis ukmayofileba

somxebiT arc am mizeziT dawyebula da arc

erTaderTia maT Soris daZabulobis dawyebisa.

aRsaniSnavia is faqti, rom Tavis droze saprezidento

arCevnebSi sergei baRafSma swored

somxebis TanadgomiTa da mxardaWeriT gaimarjva.

amis Sesaxeb araerTxel iTqva da daiwera,

es cnobili faqtia. raul xajimbas kandidatura

absoluturad miuRebeli gaxldaT afxazeT-

Si mcxovrebi somxebisTvis, vinaidan igi arasdros

malavda sakuTar uaryofiT damokidebulebas

somxebis mimarT. misi momxreebi somxebs

okupantebadac ki miiCneven, vinaidan afxazeTSi

isini afsuebze metni arian.

2003 wels afxazeTSi mosaxleobis aRwera

Catarda. monacemebi afsuebisTvis friad arasaxarbielo

gamodga: somxebi afsuebs aTiaTasi

kaciT Warbobdnen. swored im periodidan

daiwyo raul xajimbam somxebis winaaRmdeg

`laSqroba~. misi gadawyvetilebiT gaasaxles

Tavis droze gagris raionidan ramdenime

aseuli somxuri ojaxi, Tumca amas xelSesaxebi

Sedegi ar mohyolia. amis Semdeg somxebma

kvlav myarad moidges fexi afxazeTSi,

iSoves didi fuli, gaaZlieres gavlena da

axla Tavs iq idealurad grZnoben. yovel

SemTxvevaSi, ase iyo aqamde.

somexTa afxazeTSi Casaxlebas moskovic

uwyobda xels warsulSi, magram axla maT

rusebis mfaveloba moakldaT. amis mizezi

kvlavdakvlav is saprezidento arCevnebia, romel-

Sic rusebis didi winaaRmdegobis miuxedavad,

somexTa mier mxardaWerilma baRafSma

gaimarjva, xolo kremlis favoriti xajimba

xaxamSrali darCa. Tanac moskovs somxebis

dasasaxlebel-gasamravleblad xom ar miutacebia

Cveni miwebi?! ratom unda grZnobdnen

isini iq Tavs rusebze ufro Sinaurebad?

arada, albaT, bevrs axsovs, rogor gahyvirodnen

soxumis dacemis dRes bagramianis

batalionis somexi `boevikebi~, afxazeTi CvenTvis

patara somxeTiao. hoda, iqca kidec iqauroba

realurad patara somxeTad.

sxvaTa Soris, imasac amboben, xajimba somxebs

moskovis miTiTebiT aviwroebso. rusebs xom

afxazeTi mxolod cariel miwad, teritoriad

surT da ara iq macxovrebeli sxvadasxva

erovnebis adamianebiT. qarTvelebi iqidan ukve

gamodevnes, axla somxebis droa, male ki

jeri afsuebze midgeba. Tumca, isini ukve

isedac mkveTrad Semcirebulebi arian.

afxazeTSi ukve avrceleben antisomxur

proklamaciebs. Tumca, proklamaciebs vin dae-

Zebs, roca arc teroristul aqtebs eridebian.

soxumSi somxuri warmomadgenloba da

skolac ki aafeTqes. amis gamo, rogorc

amboben, somex da afsua `boevikebs~ Soris

seriozuli Setakebac ki momxdara. magram

mTavari Setakebebi jer kidev win aqvT

afsuebsa da somxebs. moskovi Zal-Rones ar

dazogavs saimisod, rom es ori xalxi erTmaneTs

Seawyvitos, raTa erTaderT gamarjvebulad

Tavad darCes.

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`Tu aSS dasustdeba, Cven kidev

erTxel gancaxorcielebT yofili

sabWoTa qveynebis okupacias ama-

Tuim formiT, msubuqad an xistad.

Tumca jerjerobiT aseTi

perspeqtiva ar Cans. ruseTi dsTs

teritoriaze kontrolis aRdgenisaTvis

ibrZvis da cdilobs,

iq aSS-m fexi ver moikidos.

brZola midis belorusze, ukrainasa

da saqarTvelze gavlenis mosapoveblad. Tu

am qveynebSi proamerikuli xelisufleba iqneba,

ruseTi yovelTvis Seecdeba Sidapolitikuri

viTarebis destabilizacias, iseTi niadagis Seqmnas,

rom xelisufleba daemxos an saqme samxedro

SeWramde mivides, rogorc es saqarTvelos

SemTxvevaSi moxda~.

profesori aleqsandr dugini

`nato-m garkveviT

gamoxata rusTTan

saqarTvelos sakiTxze

uTanxmoeba, misma

wevrebma ki ganacxades,

rom surT, ixilon

cecxlis Sewyvetis

Sesaxeb 2008

wlis xelSekrulebis

sruli implementacia.

nato-s yvela wevri

pativs scems da scnobs saqarTvelos suverenitets

da teritoriul mTlianobas. am

poziciaze arian isini lisabonis samitamde

da amas dauWeren mxars samitzec maSinac ki,

Tu ruseTTan garkveul sakiTxebSi iTanam-

Sromleben~.

filip gordoni

`droa vaRiaroT

simarTle:

moaxloebuli omi

religiuria, vinaidanislamistebi

erT qveyana-

Si ki ar saxloben,

aramed sxvadasxvaerovnebisani

arian da

sxvadasxva kontinentze

arian mimofantulni.

isini arad miiCneven kacobriobis

kulturul miRwevebs bolo 13 saukunis

ganmavlobaSi. isini Cveni mtrebi arian~.

matvei

ganapolski

7


winaTqma

es drouli da sayuradRebo wigni _

profesionali politikosisa Tu ubralo

mkiTxvelisTvisac erTnairad sasargeblo, naTlad

warmoaCens civi omisSemdgomi evropis Tu

ruseTisa da amerikis sagareo politikis

ganviTarebis sakvanZo epizodis Crdilovan

mxareebs. mokled, ron asmusma saTaurSi gamotanili

`mcire omi~ geopolitikis did suraTSi

savsebiT bunebrivad Casva.

vladimer leninma istoria erTaderTi kiTxvis

pasuxamde daiyvana: vin _ vis? anu

saxelmwifo da saerTaSoriso cxovrebis

umTavres movlenebs igi aRiqvamda, rogorc

ubralod `mogeba-wagebis~ dapirispirebas

politikur nebasa da samxedro SesaZleblobebSi;

roniseuli `mcire omis~ umTavresi daskvna

isaa, rom aq gamarjvebuli aravin darCenila,

wagebuli ki _ bevri...

saqarTvelo sami urTierTdakavSirebuli

mizezis gamo damarcxda:

1. qveynis defaqto danawevreba de-iured

gaformda, ramdenadac ruseTma samxreT oseTi

da afxazeTi viTomda damoukidebel saxelmwifoebad

cno da axla acxadebs, mzad var ise

davicva, rogorc sakuTari teritoriebio;

2. gaurkveveli vadiT gadaido evrokavSirsa

da nato-Si saqarTvelos gawevrianeba. sabolood

es perspeqtiva kidev ufro garTulda

am istoriulad uiRblo qveynisaTvis,

radganac axla ufro gauWirdeba evrokaSiris

wevrobisaTvis aucilebeli moTxovnebis Sesruleba

da iseT myar, erTian saxelmwifod

Camoyalibeba, Crdiloatlantikuri aliansis

usafrTxoebaSi Tavis wvlils rom Seitans.

3. qveynis amJamindelma xelisuflebam prezident

mixeil saakaSvilis meTaurobiT, dasavleTis

TvalSi avno sakuTar reputacias, roca

ruseTis TamaSs ahyva da uneburad premierministr

putinis wisqvilze daasxa wyali.

wagebuli darCa amerikis SeerTebuli Statebic:

jorj buSis administracia saqarTvelos

dasavlur orientaciasa da nato-sken

swrafvas gulSematkivrobda da amave dros

cdilobda, aeZulebina ruseTi, meti pasuxismgebloba

gamoeCina saerTaSoriso urTier-

TobebSi. swored saqarTvelo iyo is sajildao

qva, romelsac unda gamoevlina,

ramdenad Seswevda amerikis SeerTebul Statebs

Zala, kvlavindeburad ganevrco demokratiuli

mSvidoba evropaSi da imavdroulad,

ruseTTan sasikeTo, mravalmxrivi partniorobisTvisac

mieRwia.

arada, jer kidev Tveebis, sinamdvileSi

ki, wlebis win, sanam rusuli tankebi rokis

gvirabs gamoivlidnen, Zalauflebis mqone

gavleniani rusi politikosebi gulmodgined

eZebdnen saqarTvelos teritoriaze SemoWris

sababs, misi okupaciisa da fizikuri Tu ara,

virtualuri aneqsiisTvis mainc. ruseTSi bevrisaTvis

swored amgvari Sedegi iqneboda,

rogorc yofili sabWoTa kavSiris sivrceze

`upiratesi interesis~ pretenziis dadastureba,

ise samagieros gadaxda aSS-is winamZRolobiT

Catarebuli im kampaniisaTvis, ramac

kosovos damoukidebel saxelmwifod aRiareba

moitana saerTaSoriso doneze.

roni dawvrilebiT gviyveba: 2008 wels,

roca ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierTobebi

ukiduresad daiZaba, saqmeSi CarTuli praqtikosi

amerikeli diplomatebi yvela xerxiT

cdilobdnen SeiaraRebuli dapirispirebis

Tavidan acilebas, Tumca Zalisxmevas aklda

is done da intensivoba, romelic momwifebuli

krizisidan gamogviyvanda.

maxsovs, Tavdasxmamde ramdenime kviris ganmavlobaSi

iseTi gancda mqonda, TiTqos,

ukve nanax films vuyurebdi xelaxla: sul

raRac cxra wliT adre, 1999 wels, saxelmwifo

departamentSi rom vmsaxurobdi, mec

viyavi CarTuli aSS-is mcdelobebSi, rogorme

ruseT-saqarTvelos Soris msgavsi daZabuloba

gangvemuxta. maSin uSualo sababad saxeldeboda

ruseTis survili, saqarTvelos

teritoriaze, pankisis xeobaSi moemwyvdia da

ronald ronald d. d. asmus asmusi asmus

mcire omi,

romelmac msoflio SeZra

saqarTvelo, ruseTi da dasavluri samyaros momavali

` ... iZleva aRmosavleT-dasavleTis civi

omisSemdgomi pirveli samxedro konfliqtis

Zalian droul, istoriul da geopolitikur

analizs. igi amas momxdaris

unikalurad Rrma codnis safuZvelze

akeTebs. mniSvnelovani ganacxadi da saintereso

sakiTxavia~.

zbignev bJezinski

`ron asmuss ukve oc welze metia, rac

vicnob, rogorc originalurad moazrovnes,

diplomats, centraluri da aRmosavleT

evropis eqsperts. am naSromis wakiTxvas

vurCev yvelas, visac adardebs evropa da

misi samezoblo; xolo ruseT-saqarTvelos

agvistos omis qronikis miseuli

aRwera ar unda gamorCes am regionis

namdvils gulSematkivars~.

madlen olbraiti

`es aris fasdaudebeli wvlili kavkasiis,

evropisa da transatlantikuri urTier-

Tobebisa da aseve dRevandeli da xvalindeli

ruseTis ukeT gagebaSi~.

karl bildti

`es wigni gvaxsenebs aramxolod strategiul

Secdomebs, aramed im brZolebis

moralur ganzomilebas, romelic axlda

saqarTvelos survils, gamxdariyo dasavluri,

demokratiuli sazogadoebis nawili.

es aris safuZvliani ganacxadi imisa, Tu

rogor ver SeZlo evropis usafrTxoebis

sistemam omis prevencia, omisa, romelic

SeiZleboda da unda SeCerebuliyo~.

vaclav haveli

`savaldebulo sakiTxavi maTTvis, visac

surs gaigos, Tu ra moxda kulisebs

miRma ruseT-saqarTvelos omSi da rogor

datova dasavleTma Tbilisi ruseTis

agresiis pirispir~.

jon mak-keini

gaenadgurebina CeCeni partizanebi.

Tumca, qveteqsti da mTavari gamomwvevi faqtoric

saakaSvilis winamorbedis, eduard SevardnaZis

mimarT ruseTis mxridan gulacrueba

gaxldaT. moskovis TvalTaxedviT _ yovel

SemTxvevaSi, boris elcinis memkvidris vladimer

putinis azriT, mixeil gorbaCovisdroindeli

sabWoTa kavSiris sagareo saqmeTa ministrs

araerTi codva edo, rogorc sabWoTa kavSiris

daSlis erT-erT iniciators da zogadad, `dasavleTis

maamebels~. bevri rusi, visTanac misaubria,

daufaravad gamoTqvamda imeds, rom is

pirovneba, visac vaSingtonSi `Sevis~ veZaxdiT,

bolosdabolos, mainc gaqreboda politikuri

scenidan: didi eWvi arsebobda imis Taobazec

rom SevardnaZeze ganxorcielebul TavdasxmebSi

ruseTis specsamsaxurebis xelic eria.

rogorc elcinTan, ise SevardnaZesTan keTilganwyobili

urTierTobebi prezident bil

klintonsa da saxelmwifo mdivan madlen

olbraits Suamaval-momrigeblis rolis Sesrulebis

saSualebas aZlevda da erTxans mec

mimavlines moskovsa da TbilisSi gzavnilebis

Casatanad _ im imediT, rom viTareba

umarTavi ar gaxdeboda.

magram ukve cxra wlis Semdeg, buSis

administraciam veRarc imdeni yuradReba dauTmo

da verc imdeni Zalisxmeva gamoavlina, rac

dapirispirebul mxareebze Tanabrad imoqmedebda

prevenciuli diplomatiis TvalsazrisiT.

wagebulni aRmoCndnen evropelebic, radgan,

sxva Tu araferi, maT amerikelebze

kidev ufro naklebi SorsmWvreteloba da

aqtiuroba gamoiCines: omis dawyebamde ramdenime

TviT adre saqarTvelo amaod sTxovda

evrokavSirs damkvirvebelTa gamogzavnas

feTqebadsaSiSi viTarebis gansamuxtavad. ukve

omis dawyebis Semdeg prezidentma buSma

imis nacvlad, rom amerikis gavlena da Zala

mis SesaCereblad gamoeyenebina, diplomatiuri

asparezi dauTmo prezident nikola

sarkozis, romlis moskovSi vizitic Tavis

gamoCenis STabeWdilebas ki tovebda, magram

`odnav-Zalze-nagvianevi~ Canda...

Sedegi usamarTlo `mSvidoba~ gamodga, romliTac

moskovi dRemde mSvenivrad sargeblobs.

dasasrul, 2008 wlis agvistos omSi kidev

erTi wagebuli Tavad ruseTi aRmoCnda, Tumca

Tavs dRemde gamarjvebulad acxadebs. Sei-

Zleba, samxreT oseTis SeiaraRebuli dapyroba

samxedro TvalsazrisiT warmatebadac

CaTvliliyo, magram politikuri da ekonomikuri

Sedegebi, Soreulze rom aRaraferi vTqvaT,

axlo gadasaxedidanac ki, miRwevad namdvilad

ver CaiTvleba ruseTisaTvis: Catarebulma

operaciam mTels msofiloSi sayovelTao

aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia da ganamtkica rwmena,

rom ruseTi warsulis Zvel, sabWour (imave

caristul) mankier politikas ubrundeboda.

ruseTis saxelis amgvar SebRalvas investor-

Ta ndobis dakargvac mohyva da ruseTis

fasiani qaRaldebis gaufasurebam kidev ufro

daucveli gaxada qveyana globaluri finansuri

krizisis pirobebSi.

ucxo miwebis ZaliT SemoerTeba strategiuli

xedvis sibecezec mianiSnebs: putini

da amxanagebi misi garemocvidan SesaZloa,

imasac fiqrobdnen, rom erTi gasroliT or

kurdRels moklavdnen: maTTvis saZulvel saakaSvilsac

dasjidnen da yofili sabWoTa respublikebis

moqmed Tu momaval liderebsac

gaafrTxilebdnen, ra elodaT, Tu saakaSviliviT

dasavleTisken izamdnen pirs da

dasavlur institutebSi, pirvel rigSi, nato-

Si gawevrianebas moindomebdnen. arada, sinamdvileSi

saqarTvelos teritoriebis dapyroba

imis aSkara dadastureba aRmoCnda,

ratom SeiZleba gauCndeT ruseTis mezoblebs

dasavluri politikuri, ekonomikuri Tu usafrTxoebis

institutebis wevrobis survili!

am TvalsazrisiT ruseTis qmedeba pirosis

gamarjvebas hgavs da ugunurebis jorj

vaSingtoniseul evfemizms Tu gavixsenebT,

`kontrproduqtiulad~ aRiqmeba.

es naTqvami sxva TvalsazrisiTac simarTlea:

ruseTma daasusta dasavleTTan politikuri

integrirebis SesaZlebloba da imis

miuxedavad, rom putini da sxva rusi xelisufalni,

gamarjvebulis poziciidan gamomdinare,

kvlavac yvelanairad ugulebelyofdnen

da kicxavdnen msgavs miswrafebebs qveyanaSi,

mainc optimisti var da mjera, maTi xmauri

da mZvinvareba mxolod taqtikur mosazrebebs

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emyareba. gruCo marqsTan bodiSs vixdi, ubralod,

putini da Zmani misni im karze ar

akakuneben, romlis SeRebis imedic ar aqvT!

asea Tu ise, darwmunebuli var, erT mSvenier

dRes maTi memkvidreebi sakmaod realistebi

aRmoCndebian da dainaxaven, rom izolacionizmi

(gnebavT, misi postsabWouri saxeoba

_ evrazianizmi) momavalSi veraviTar

sargeblobas ver moutanT.

adre Tu gvian ruseTis federacias mainc

mouwevs saerTaSoriso TanamegobrobaSi CarTva,

rac wesebis dacvas gulisxmobs da ara maT

fexqveS gaTelvas. sxva SemTxvevaSi masac sabWoTa

kavSiris bedis gaziareba mouwevs.

rusebs, albaT, sananebeli gauxdebaT 2008

wels saqarTveloSi separatizmis mxardaWera,

radganac am maxinji movlenis sacecebi ukve

ruseTis SigniT SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac Cans,

gansakuTrebiT, CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi.

CeCneTis krizisi ar dasrulebula, is ubralod

minavlulia da, sxvaTa Soris, arc erTaderTia

da arc gamonaklisi. amgvari krizisis

safrTxeebi mTels CrdilokavkasiaSi SeiniSneba

da aramxolod iq. rogorc Cans, 2008

wlis agvistoSi ruseTis Zalismierma da

uxeSma qmedebebma aranairad ar imoqmeda separatizmze

Tavad ruseTis farglebSi. piriqiT,

SesaZloa, ukuSedegic ki gamoiRo.

swored momavlis Wvretis konteqstSia ronis

es wigni gansakuTrebiT sagulisxmo: aSkaraa,

rom `agvistos satanko ieriSis~ casus belli

imdenad saakaSvilis samxreT oseTsa da afxazeTze

kontrolisa da suverenitetis aRdgenis

survili ki ar iyo, ramdenadac misi

dasavleTTan mierTebisaken swrafva. mokled,

roniseuli safuZvliani da savsebiT damajerebeli

daskvna isaa, rom ruseTisTvis

ajobebs, araTu xeli ar SeuSalos sakuTari

mezoblebis miswrafebebs, aramed TviTonac

igive gza airCios.

dabolos, oriode sityva Tavad avtoris

Sesaxeb: politikur debatebSi, xelisufleba-

Sic da mis miRmac, mas mudam eTqmoda woniani

sityva da marTalia, amJamad briuselSi cxovrobs,

mis azrs amerikaSi dResac angariSs

uweven. XX saukunis 90-ian wlebSi, roca me

da roni saxelmwifo departamentSi vmuSaobdiT,

misi wvlili gansakuTrebuli iyo rkinis

fardismiRma darCenili centraluri, da aRmosavleT

evropisken xidis gadebis strategiisa

da Seqmna-ganxorcielebis TvalsazrisiT.

gansakuTrebul yuradRebas baltiispireTis qveynebs

uTmobda. imTaviTve nato-s gafarTovebis

momxre, igi aranaklebi mondomebiT cdilobda

nato-ruseTis partniorobis Camoyalibebas,

iseve, rogorc zogadevropuli (magaliTad,

euTo) struqturebis gaZlierebas ruseTis

dasavlur orbitaze mosaqcevad. imdroindeli

ambebi mas aRwerili aqvs 2002 wels gamocemul

wignSi `natos-s karis gaReba~.

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi germanuli

marSalis fondisTvis bolo Svidi wlis ganmavlobaSi

gaweuli samsaxuriT mas mniSvnelovani

wvlili Seaqvs evropis usafrTxoebis

sakiTxebis gadaWraSi. amJamad igi gansakuTrebul

yuradRebas uTmobs amierkavkasias, zogadad

ki Savi zRvis regions. darwmunebuli var,

ronis am wignSi moTxrobili ambebi saTanado

gavlenas iqoniebs rogorc obamas administraciaze,

ise saqarTvelosa da evropaze.

metic, wigns gamoxmaureba moskovSic unda mohyves

_ sazriani da xSirad warmatebuli rusebi

uCumrad da frTxilad msjeloben sakuTari mTavrobis

Sarianobaze kavkasiaSi da gansakuTrebiT, saqarTvelos

mimarT 2008 wels ganxorcielebuli qmedebebis

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otomanebTan da konstantinopolis

dacemisTvis momzadda niadagi. Cems kolega

ivan krastevs vstumrobdi _ evropis erTerT

wamyvan politologsa da analitikoss

ruseTis sakiTxebSi. zafxulis im cxel dReebSi

gadavwyviteT, erTad dagvesvena da erTmane-

TisaTvis sakuTari mosazrebebi gagveziarebi-

na ruseTSi axlad gamokveTili tendenciebis

Taobaze. orive vxedavdiT, rom es qveyana

sul ufro da ufro avtokratuli xdeboda

Sin, Wirveuli _ gareT da sul axal-axal

Tavsatexs uCenda dasavleTs. maSin, cxadia,

ar vicodiT, rom momdevno xuTi dRis movlenebi

ukeT warmoaCenda Cveni saubris Tematikis

dramatulobas...

aivanze visxediT da Savi zRvis dasavleT

sanapiros silamaziT vtkbebodiT; irgvliv sruli

siCume sufevda, Tumca Cemi mobiluri telefoni

mTeli datvirTviT muSaobda _ xan

teqsturi Setyobineba momdioda da xan zarebi

iklebda iqaurobas; saqarTvelodan mexmianebodnen

_ erT dros berZnebisa da romaelebis

mier `stumarTmoyvared~ monaTluli

zRvis aRmosavleT sanapiroze mdebare im qveynidan,

sadac axla cxovreba gacilebiT nakleb

mSvidobiani gaxlavT, xolo rusuli sagareo

politikis ambiciuroba veranairad ver CaiTvleboda

ganyenebul Temad. saqarTvelo da

ruseTi omis zRvarze idgnen: daZabuloba am

or qveyanas Soris Tveebis ganmavlobaSi Rrmavdeboda

_ urTierTobebi aqamdec karga xania,

sakmaoze metad civi iyo, magram moskovma

Tbilisis mimarT wnexi gansakuTrebiT mas

Semdeg gaaZliera, rac dasavleTma kosovos

damoukidebloba cno, nato-s buqarestis samitze

ki atlantikurma aliansma ganacxada, erT mSvenier

dRes saqarTveloca da ukrainac Cveni

wevrebi gaxdebiano.

moskovma araerTxel gaafrTxila saqarTvelo,

rom dasavleTisaken mis swrafvas savalalo

Sedegebi mohyveboda da afxazeTsa Tu

samxreT oseTSi separatizmis problemebis

mogvarebac swored imaze iqneboda damokidebuli,

ramdenad gaiTvaliswinebda saqarTvelo

ruseTis moTxovnebs. saqarTvelo, Tavis

mxriv, jiutad ewinaaRmdegeboda ruseTis amgvar

zewolas, magram am droisTvis moskovi, rogorc

Cans, sityvidan saqmeze gadavida: dasavleTis

mier kosovos aRiarebasa da natos mxridan

saqarTvelosTvis gawevrianebis pirobas mas

separatistul regionebTan kavSirebis ga-

ZlierebiT upasuxa, rac ukve Zalian waagavda

e.w. mcocavi aneqsiis strategias: ruseTs

ukanonod Sehyavda iq jari, Sehqonda SeiaraReba

da im tipis infrastruqturasac hqmnida,

rom Zalauneburad gafiqrebinebda _

samxedro TavdasxmisaTvis emzadebao. nuTu

axla imperia sapasuxo dartymas apirebda?

Tbilisi marTlac araerTxel Seecada gangaSis

atexas: dasavleTs sTxovda, uSualo

zemoqmedeba moexdina moskovze, rusebis Casanacvleblad

marTlac neitraluri damkvirveblebi

Tu mSvidobismyofelebi gamoegzavna

regionSi da molaparakebaTa arsebuli formatic

Seecvala, raTa samSvidobo procesi

wamatebiT ganxorcielebuliyo da daZabulobac

ganmuxtuliyo. magram dasavleTs arc

moskovis ramenairad iZuleba surda da arc

im riskis gaweva, rasac konfliqtur regionSi

mis aqtiurad Carevas SeeZlo moetana.

igi, ubralod, Tavs ikavebda msgavsi

nabijebis gadadgmisgan. bevrs miaCnda, rom

saqarTvelos amgvari SiSi gazviadebuli iyo

da `mgeli~ TbilisSi mxolod elandebodaT.

sxvebi eWvobdnen, ruseTisTvis axali pirobebis

iZulebiT Tavsmoxveva, ubralod, SeuZlebeli

iqnebao. esecaa, ruseTi xSirad ki

amRvrevda wyals separatistul regionebSi,

raTa saqarTvelo mudmivi arastabilurobis

pirobebSi yofiliyo da Tbilissac mudmivi

safrTxis gancda hqonoda, magram mainc cota

vinme Tu fiqrobda, rom moskovi ase Sors

wavidoda da qveynis teritoriaze pirdapir

SeWras moindomebda. es varaudi TiTqos

sruliad gamoricxuli Canda civi omisSemdgom

evropaSi. asea Tu ise, Tavad evropa sruliad

sxva sakiTxebiT iyo dakavebuli _ sazafxulo

SvebulebebisaTvis emzadeboda da bevri

iqauri lideric an ukve Casuli iyo CineT-

Si, an gamgzavrebas apirebda olimpiur TamaSebze

dasaswrebad. ganwyobis mxriv didad arc

vaSingtoni gansxvavdeboda: prezidenti jorj

buSi fexs iTrevda, ramdenadac misi meore

saprezidento vada ukve iwureboda da, Sesa-

Zloa, is marTlac saqarTvelos yvelaze

Zlieri mxardamWeric yofiliyo dasavleTSi,

magram imxanad misi yuradRebac sul sxva

mxares iyo mipyrobili _ TeTri saxlis

administracia umTavres Zalisxmevas erayis

problemas uTmobda da xelisuflebaSi yofnis

bolo TveebSi axlo aRmosavleTSi vi-

Tarebis regulirebiT iyo dakavebuli. satelituri

dakvirvebebisa Tu dazvervis umTavresi

saSualebebic sxva prioritetebze gaxldaT

fokusirebuli da aSS, mTlianobaSi,

naTlad verc ki xedavda, ra xdeboda

saqarTveloSi. es rusebs sakuTari samxedro

aRmSeneblobis uproblemod ganxorcielebis

saSualebas aZlevda. omis dawyebam aSS-is

dazvervis samsaxurebi namdvilad gaakvirva

da Tavdapirvelad TeTri saxlisTvis Seu-

Zlebelic ki aRmoCnda mimdinare movlenebis

mkafio suraTis Seqmna. yvelaferma aman, cxadia,

xel-fexi gauxsna moskovs sakuTari

miznebis gansaxorcieleblad.

politikuri TvalsazrisiT saarCevno kampania

da brZola baraq obamasa da jon makkeins

Soris gadamwyvet fazaSi Sedioda da

vaSingtonSi yvelas yuradReba axla am ambisken

iyo mipyrobili, ramdenadac orive

kandidati saboloo sajaro gancxadebis gasakeTeblad

emzadeboda. rogorc Cans, saqarTvelo

arc maT axsovdaT _ im wlis gazafxulze

da zafxulSi mec erTi im mravalTagani

damkvirvebeli viyavi, vinc savaraudo scenaris

ganviTareba iwinaswarmetyvela presaSi

da dasavleTs movuwode kidec, meti yuradReba

miepyro saqarTvelosTvis yvelaze uaresi

Sedegis Tavidan asacileblad. samwuxarod,

gafrTxileba gafrTxilebad darCa: vaSingtoni

sul sxva sazrunaviTa da sakuTari TaviT

gaxldaT dakavebuli.

ivlisis dasawyiSi saqarTvelos prezident

mixeil saakaSvilTan erTad mec veswrebodi

im oficialur sadils, dalmaciuri sanapiro

qalaqis _ dubrovnikis sastumros `eqselsiori~

verandaze rom gaimarTa xorvatiis xelisuflebis

mier gamarTuli konferenciis

dasrulebis Semdeg. isic aRsaniSnavia, rom

xsenebuli konferencia sworedac xorvatiis

natoSi savaraudo gawevrianebis sakiTxs exeboda.

Cvens garda sufraze isxdnen SvedeTis

sagareo saqmeTa ministri karl bildti, aSSis

saxelmwifo mdivnis TanaSemwe den fridi,

proeqtis `gardamavali demokratiisaTvis~ xelmZRvaneli

brius jeqsoni da kidev araerTi

wamyvani analitikosi atlantikis okeanis orive

sanapirodan. mzis Casvlisas zRvis xedi kidev

ufro Tvalwarmtaci gaxda, Cveni saubari ki

_ pirdapiri. ukve Riad vlaparakobdiT im

zafxuls ruseTis saxmedro agresiis riskfaqtoris

Taobaze. ramdenime kviris win saakaSvils

ruseTis prezident dimitri medvedevisTvis

konfidencialuri samSvidobo winadadebebi

hqonda gagzavnili afxazeTTan dakav-

SirebiT da imedovnebda, pasuxs meore dRisTvis

yazaxeTSi dagegmil Sexvedraze miiRebda. xolo

axla, dubrovnikSi erTdroulad cdilobda

bolodroindeli dasavluri diplomatiis

iniciativebis gulwrfeli momxre gamxdariyo

da Tan Sav bazarze stingeris msgavsi Tanamedrove

SeiaraRebac SeeZina _ im SemTxvevisTvis,

Tuki daZabuloba ukve srulmasStabian

konfliqtSi gadaizrdeboda.

magidasTan msxdomni varwmunebdiT, rom

ar ahyoloda provokaciebs an Tavad ar

wamoewyo omi, romelSic gamarjveba ar ewera.

ramdenime dReSi amerikis saxelmwifo

mdivani kondoliza raisic gegmavda

saqarTveloSi Casvlas, raTa erTxel kidev

ecada samSvidobo procesebis ganaxleba. saakaSvili

kargad acnobierebda safrTxes da

daxmarebasac iTxovda. amve dros isic pirdapir

gviTxra, ase xelebCamoSvebuli ver vidgebi,

Tuki ruseTi am ori separatisuli regionis

waglejvas moindomebso. bolos isic gvkiTxa,

risi gakeTeba surda dasavleTs omis

aSkara safrTxis aRsakveTad: diplomatiur

zemoqmedebas movaxdendiT moskovze am eskalaciis

SesaCereblad Tu viTarebis stabilizaciis

mizniT neitralur damkvirveblebs

gavgzavnidiT regionSi. adekvaturi pasuxis

gacema veravin movaxerxeT. me da saakaSvili

ramdenime kviris Semdeg kvlav SevxvdiT erTmaneTs

_ kvlav saerTaSoriso konferenciaze,

romelic ukve yirimis sakurorto

qalaq ialtaSi gaimarTa. sadilobisas vuTxari,

moskovis mxridan safrTxe, albaT, agvitos

Sua ricxvebSia mosalodneli-meTqi... sul

erTi kviriT Sevcdi!

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

`Cven ganvagr-

ZobT Tavdacvis

sferoSi saqarTvelostransformaciis

mxardaWeras

vroatlantikuri

sazRvrebis gaswvriv.

es daxmarebainstitucionaluri

reformebis mxardaWeras guloisxmobs,

rac xels Seuwyobs saqarTvelos miswrafebas

nato-Si gawevrianebisken da qveynis wvlils

saerTaSoriso usafrTxoebis saqmeSi

kidev ufro efeqturs gaxdis~.

aleqsandr verSbou

`Cvens Tvalwin xdeba adre

warmoudgenlis _ ankaris,

Teiranisa da damaskos daaxloveba.

maT SesaZloa

SeuerTdnen malaizia, libani,

palestina. es dasavleTs

friad aSfoTebs, radgan

dRevandeli obama, ase vTqvaT,

xel-fexSekrulia imiT,

rom mSvidobismyofelis

rolSi gamodis. mas ar

SeuZlia wamoiwyos omi, mas

ar SeuZlia arafris gakeTeba,

garda imisa, rom gaiRimos

da sisuleleebi ilaparakos. dro ki gadis...

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

realurad Cven vdgavarT didi Zvrebis winaSe

da sakuTari TvaliT vixilavT bevr rames~.

heidar jamali, ruseTis islamuri

komitetis Tavmjdomare.

dros ganicdis~.

`evrokavSiri saqarTvelos

romelime nawilis

okupacias arasdros

Seurigdeba da mouwodebs

yvela qveyanas, saqarTvelos

teritoriuli

mTlianoba aRiaros. es

pozicia cvlilebebs aras-

Joze manuel barozo

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(fragmentebi `pirWelis~ Jurnalist

levan WiTanavas interviudan amerika-

Si moRvawe cnobil qarTvel JurnalistTan

zurab mWedliSvilTan)

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Sedegebs?

_ `verc demokratebisa~ da verc `respublikelebis~

winasaarCevno molodini ver gamarTlda.

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kongresis orive palata `aiRes~, amjerad ver

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vTqvaT, rom `demokratebma~ seriozuli marcxi

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`respublikelebi~ aramxolod imiT gaanadgures,

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warmatebas miaRwies moralur-xarisxobrivi

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romelTa Soris uamravi `respublikeli~

gaxldaT. maSin `respublikuri partia~

ise iyo daTrgunuli, rom eqspertebi seriozulad

uwinaswarmetyvelebdnen am udides

da uZveles partias xangrZliv politikur

kolafss da ai, Zalian mcire droSi ukve

`demokratebi~ aRmoCndnen, Tu obamas terminologias

davesesxebiT, `nacem-nabegvni~.

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romelic egzaltirebul eleqtorats cvlilebebs

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gavleniani politologi afrTxilebda. uamrav

sxva sakiTxTan erTad, misi reitingis dacemis

mTavari mizezi is gaxldaT, rom obamam ver

moaxerxa mkafiod aexsna xalxisTvis, ratom

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inicirebuli ybadaRebuli cvlilebebi. jandacvis

obamaseul reformasa da gancxadebeb-

Si imis Sesaxeb, rom `amerikam msoflioSi

supersaxelmwifos ambiciebze xeli unda aiRos~,

Zalian bevrma socializmisken swrafva da

msoflio gavlenis Sesustebisken gadadgmuli

nabiji dainaxa. verdiqtmac ar daayovna: prezidents

kritikis qar-cecxli daatyda Tavs,

Tanac, rogorc politikuri mowinaaRmdegeebis,

ise sakuTari _ `demokratebis~ banakidan.

qarizmatuli da `ideebiT gatenili~ prezidentis

nacvlad, amomrCevels susti politikosi

SerCa xelSi, romlis gemidanac misi

uaxloesi Tanamzraxvelebi garbian.

_ kongresis qveda palataSi

`demokratebma~ umravlesoba dakarges.

ramdenad realuria, amis gaTvaliswinebiT,

vaSingtonis sagareo politikaSi, ker-

Zod, aSS-ruseTs Soris `gadatvirTvaSi~

koreqtivebi Sevides?

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zurab mWedliSvili:

`ruseTSi ruseTSi didi didi ambebia ambebia mosalodneli

mosalodneli

da da ar ar ar aris ar is gamor gamoricxuli, gamor icxuli, vaSingtonma

vaSingtonma

put putin put in inis is CamoSOrebas CamoSOrebas xeli xeli SeaSvelos!~

SeaSvelos!~

_ faqtia, rom sagareo politikis frontze

obamas administraciis damoukidebel kurss,

romlis drosac `respublikelTa~ pozicias,

faqtobrivad, ar iTvaliswinebdnen, wertili

daesva. obamas da mis partias mouwevT yuri

miugdon oponentebs, romelTa pozicia sagareo

politikis TiTqmis yvela mniSvnelovan

sakiTxSi uaRresad mkacria.

didi albaTobiT SeiZleba vivaraudoT,

rom warmomadgenelTa palatis sagareo sakiTxTa

komitets saTaveSi ileana roslehtineni

Caudgeba, romelic msoflioSi dRemde

arsebuli diqtatoruli, komunisturi

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da ruseTis avtoritarul-Cekisturi reJimebis

winaaRmdeg daundobel mebrZoladaa cnobili.

aseTive mkacri kursis gamtareblebi

arian `Cais wveulebis~ moZraobis wevrebi

mario rubio, romelic senatori gaxda florididan

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rend poli. amas ematebian sxva `respublikelebi~

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TaosnobiT. senatSi gavidnen aseve

jon kaili da jim deminti. maTgan pirveli

ruseT-amerikas Soris strategiuli Setevi-

Ti SeiaraRebis Semcirebis Sesaxeb praRaSi

xelmowerili dokumentis ratificirebas mxolod

im SemTxvevaSi dauWers mxars, Tu

SeTanxmebidan, misi

SefasebiT, `amerikis

Tavdacvisunariano-

bisTvis saziano

punqtebi~ iqneba

amoRebuli, rac

warmoudgenelia.

rac Sexeba meore

senators, igi ratificirebaskategoriuladewinaaRmdegeba.

rogorc cnobilia,

`didma

rusma politikosma~

kosaCovma

amerikuli arCevnebis

Sedegebidan gamomdinare,

dumas

rekomendacia misca,

ar moaxdinos

aRniSnuli SeTanxmebis

ratifikacia;

da es maSin, roca

axal kongress

muSaoba jer ar

dauwyia. rusebis

gaTvla primitiulia:

isini ubi-

Zgeben jer kidev

`demokratiul~ kongress, dokumentis ratificireba

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aiRes `Tavze xeli~ da dokumentis

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komisiis wevria da maTgan ramdenime momxrec

iyo ratificirebisa.

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da ruseTs Soris `gadatvirTvis~ politika

kvlav darCeba ZalaSi, yovel SemTxvevaSi, gancxadebebis

doneze. Tumca misi perspeqtivisa, me

piradad, ar mjera. ara imitom, rom amerikelebi

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rom Tavad putinis ruseTi gadadgams adre Tu

gvian gauTvaliswinebel nabijs, romliTac amerikas

sxva arCevans aRar dautovebs, Tu ara ybadaRebuli

`gadatvirTva~ daiviwyos da putinis reJims

is adgili miuCinos, romelsac is didi xania

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did yuradRebas uTmobs ruseTSi mimdinare

procesebs, sadac moklevadian perspeqtivaSi didi

ambebia mosalodneli da ar aris gamoricxuli,

vaSingtonma xelisuflebidan putinis CamoSorebis

saqmes xeli SeaSvelos.

_ `respublikel~ erik kantors amerika-

Si amomaval politikur varskvlavad

miiCneven da kongresSi erT-erT mniSvnelovan

posts uwinaswarmetyveleben. ra

SegiZliaT gviTxraT am figuraze?

qarizmatulma da energiulma obamam,

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kerpma, romelic egzaltirebul eleqtorats

cvlilebebs hpirdeboda, rekordulad

mcire droSi popularoba dakarga,

ris Sesaxebac mas araerTi gavleniani

politologi afrTxilebda. uamrav sxva

sakiTxTan erTad, misi reitingis dacemis

mTavari mizezi is gaxldaT, rom obamam

ver moaxerxa mkafiod aexsna xalxisTvis,

ratom da risTvis sWirdeboda qveyanas

mis mier inicirebuli ybadaRebuli cvlilebebi.

jandacvis obamaseul reformasa

da gancxadebebSi imis Sesaxeb, rom

`amerikam msoflioSi supersaxelmwifos

ambiciebze xeli unda aiRos~, Zalian

bevrma socializmisken swrafva da msoflio

gavlenis Sesustebisken gadadgmuli

nabiji dainaxa. verdiqtmac ar daayovna:

prezidents kritikis qar-cecxli daatyda

Tavs, Tanac, rogorc politikuri mowinaaRmdegeebis,

ise sakuTari _ `demokratebis~

banakidan. qarizmatuli da `ideebiT

gatenili~ prezidentis nacvlad, amomrCevels

susti politikosi SerCa xelSi,

romlis gemidanac misi uaxloesi Tanamzraxvelebi

garbian.

_ qarTvelebisTvis erik kantoris figura,

romelsac marTlac uwinaswarmetyveleben amgvar

rames, sagulisxmo unda iyos. kantori israelis

interesebis Tavgamodebuli damcvelia da amerikel

politikosTa im wres warmoadgens, romlebic

iransa da siriasTan axlo urTierTobebis mqone

qveynebisadmi mkacri kursis gatarebas moiTxoven.

iran-saqarTvelos daaxlovebis fonze qarTul

diplomatias da parlamentarebsac, vfiqrob, kantorTan

da mis poziciaze mdgom amerikel politikosebTan

am Temaze konsultaciebi mouwevT...

_ raki irani vaxseneT, rigi amerikeli

eqspertebis gancxadebebs minda SevexoT,

romelTa mtkicebiT, saqarTvelom

iranTan daaxloveba partniorebTan yovelgvari

konsultaciis gareSe, TviTneburad

daiwyo, riTac iranTan sakmaod

daZabuli urTierTobebis mqone aSS gaaRiziana.

marTlac SeuTanxmebeli iyo Tu

ara saqarTvelos es nabiji, Tqveni azriT,

strategiul partniorTan _ SeerTebul

StatebTan da ramdenad realuria

informacia misi gaRizianebis Sesaxeb?

_ me mxolod is vici (da es cnobilia

amerikuli istebliSmentisTvisac), rom xelisuflebaSi

mosvlisTanave obamas administraciam

TeiranTan faruli molaparakebebi

daiwyo, romelic dRemde ar Sewyvetila.

amitomac Zalian mee-

Wveba, Tbiliss iran-

Tan daaxloebis kuTx-

iT seriozuli nabijebi

vaSiongtonTan Seu-

Tanxmeblad gadaedga...

_ internetgamocema

`niuslendi~

ebraul portalze

`dabkfaili~ araoficialur

informaciaze

dayrdnobiT wers,

rom baraq obamam

iranis mimarT

samxedro sanqciebis

eskalaciis gankarguleba

gasca. ra

iciT amis Sesaxeb?

_ is, rom amerika

adre Tu gvian msgavs

nabijs gadadgamda (an

momavalSi gadadgams), ar

unda yofiliyo moulodneli.

iranis birTvuli

obieqtebis mosalodneli

dabombvis Sesaxeb informacia

amerikul mediaSi

periodulad vrceldeba.

sparseTis yure-

Si didi xania mobilizebulia

amerikul aviamzidTa

umZlavresi dajgufeba linkornebis,

saraketo kreiserebisa da atomuri wyalqveSa

navebis CaTvliT, romlebsac SeuZliaT iranis

aramxolod birTvuli reaqtorebisa da aviaciis,

aramed mTeli saxmeleTo jaris ganadgureba

zusti, wertilovani saraketo dartymebisa

da saaviacio dabombvebis meSveobiT. samxedro

operaciis gegma pentagons `yoveli SemTxvevisTvis~

damtkicebuli aqvs. metic, analogiuri

operaciis gegma momzadebuli aqvs israelsac

da samxedro eqspertebi xSirad msjeloben

imaze, aucileblobis SemTxvevaSi, vin ganaxorcielebs

pirvel Setevas iranis winaaRmdeg _

israeli Tu aSS? eqspertTa umravlesoba miiCnevs,

rom Setevas israeli daiwyebs, xolo

iranis mxridan pasuxis gacemis SemTxvevaSi axlo

aRmosavleTSi misi uaxloesi mokavSiris dasaxmareblad

saqmeSi ukve amerika CaerTveba, romelic

mis xelTarsebul yvela samxedro saSualebas,

maT Soris, taqtikur atomur Wurvebs aamoqmedebs,

uwinaresad iranis miwisqveSa obieqtebis

gasanadgureblad.

_ Tumca `hesbola~ Tanamedrove rusuli

tanksawinaaRmdego saSualebebiTacaa

SeiaraRebuli. Tu amas `hamasis~ razmebs,

siriis armias, iranis aviaciasa da balistikur

raketebs davamatebT, dameTanxmebiT,

saSiSi suraTi iqmneba aramxolod

israelisa da axlo aRmosavle-

TisaTvis, aramed saerTaSoriso usafrTxoebisTvisac.

amis gaTvaliswinebiT,

ramdenad realuria, rom obamas administraciam

operaciis Catarebis gadaw-

yvetileba marTlac miiRos?

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(dasawyisi gv. 2)

SeerTebul Statebs davubrundeT. televiziiT

amerikis saxelmwifo mdivnis interviu

gadaica, sadac qalbatonma klintonma brZana,

momaval saprezidento arCevnebSi monawileobas

ar miviReb, radgan is Tanamdeboba,

romelic dRes mikavia, isedac maZlevs

Cemi xalxisTvis saqmis keTebis saSualebaso.

ramdenad gulwrfelia igi?

_ araferi gulwrfelic ar aris. es gancxadeba

ukve aris misi winasaarCevno kampaniis

dasawyisi.

_ Tumca, rogorc brZaneT, amerikaSi

`respublikelebi~ modian.

_ diax, modian da qvas qvaze ar datoveben.

es gansakuTrebiT sWirdebaT evropis qveynebs,

romlebic erTmaneTs Wamen. klintonma ki saku-

Tari SesaZleblobebi gamoavlina da Tuki mas

miaCnia, rom muSaobaSi prezidentic ver uSlis

xels, amiT `demokratTa~ CixSi Sesul politikas

kidev ufro amJRavnebs.

_ qalbatono lela, Zalian sainteresod

da moulodnelad viTardeba movlenebi

nato-ruseTis urTierTobebSi. Tumca,

`moulodnelad~ mxolod imaTTvis, vinc

Tqveni Canaweri am TemasTan dakavSirebiT

ar icoda. simarTle giTxraT, rodesac am

winaswarmetyvelebas pirvelad gavecaniT,

redaqciac gaognebuli darCa, imdenad warmoudgenlad

mogveCvena es. dRes ki, rodesac

nato-s lisabonis samiti ukve damTavrebulia,

mTelma msofliom icis, rom alians-

Si ruseTis gawevrianebis idea svsebiT

realuria.

_ ar dagaviwydeT, rom me isic vTqvi, ra

miznebi amoZravebs ruseTs da ratom surs

aliansSi gawevrianeba. garda amisa, rogorc

nawinaswarmetyvelebi iyo, muslimebTan urTier-

Toba imdenad daiZaba, imdenad gaizarda evropasa

da amerikaSi maTi qselebi, rom gaer-

Tianebis saWiroeba dadga.

_ qalbatono lela, 2006 wels Tqven

brZaneT, rom korea, iranTan da CineTTan

erTad msoflios aaforiaqebs, rom es

ukavSirdeba `atoms~. CineTsa da iranze

aRarafers vityvi, ukve cnobilia maTi

poziciebi da miswrafebebi. sul axlaxans

gavrcelda informacia, rom CrdiloeT

koreas aranormalurad swrafi tempiTa

da sruliad idumalad augia msxvili

qarxana, sadac uranis gamdidreba moxdeba.

es sawarmo sakuTari TvaliT ixila

amerikelma mecnierma zigfrid hekerma,

romelic gaognebuli darCenila misi sirTuliTa

da superTanamedroveobiT. `niu-iork

Taimsma~ dawera, rom qarxana 2009 wlis

gazafxulamde, anu manam, sanam CrdiloeT

korea ukanasknel saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebs

gamoaZevebda qveynidan, jeri ker

kidev ar arsebobda. igi sul raRac

weliwadnaxevarSi gaCnda. amitom Cndeba

safuZvliani eWvi, rom Caketilma, arcTu

mdidarma qveyanam, gaeros usafrTxoebis

sabWos axali, mkacri sanqciebis gverdis

avliT, romeliRac ucxouri saxelmwifos

daxmareba miiRo. ramdenad safuZvliania

es varaudi da romelia `damxmare~ saxelmwifo?

_ damxmare saxelmwifoa ruseTi! magram is,

rom TiTqos amerikam ar icoda am sawarmos

Sesaxeb, sicruea. ubralod, imis dro da saSualeba

ar iyo, rom axla kidev koreasTan

gaemarTa omi. amitom aqamde xmas ar iRebda da

Cumad adevnebda Tvalyurs sawarmos mSeneblobas.

saerTod, gamoricxulia, sadme, romelime

qveyanaSi amxela samxedro daniSnulebis obieqti

Sendebodes da SeerTebulma Statebma ar

icodes. miT umetes, roca amaSi rusebis xeli

urevia. warmoudgenelia, rom iq Tundac erTi

agenti ar yofiliyo. realurad, sad ra xdeba,

yvela wamyvanma saxelmwifom icis, magram Tama-

Soben da ase TamaS-TamaSiT midian mesame msoflio

omamde. momavalSi aucileblad iTqmeba

xmamaRla, rom CrdiloeT koreas ruseTi daexmara

sawarmos agebaSi. amerikas es faqti kozirad

aqvs Senaxuli da momavalSi gamoiyenebs kidec.

internet-media

_ obamas am gankargulebaSi, Tu is, ra

Tqma unda, marTlac gamoica, bolo erTi

Tvis manZilze axlo aRmosavleTSi momxdari

faqtebidan gamomdinare, saSiSroeba

unda davinaxoT, romelsac israeli da amerika

iranze Tavdasxmis damatebiT argumentad

gamoiyeneben. iranis mier birTvuli iaraRis

Seqmnis problema rom israelsa da

vaSingtons didi xania, mosvenebas ukargavs,

cnobilia, magra, is, rasac prezidenti ahmadinejadi

israelTan mimarTebaSi akeTebs,

yvelanair politikur, saerTaSoriso samarTlisa

da moralur da sakacobrio normebs

scdeba. ai axlac, 14 oqtombers iranis

prezidenti libanSi Cavida da israelis

sazRvarTan mdebare qalaq binTjibeilSi,

sadac `hesbolas~ mTavari damrtymeli Zalebia

_ qalbatono lela, lisabonSi gamarTulma

nato-s samitma kidev erTxel

daadastura, rom aliansi mzad aris

saqarTvelos wevrad misaRebad, rom es

Tema dRis wesrigidan ar moxsnila da

arc moixsneba.

_ Cveni qveyana aucileblad Seva nato-Si

da Seva zustad maSin, roca saqarTvelos da

mis xalxs sWirdeba. es sakiTxi ukve Zalian

myarad dgas.

_ lisabonis samitze amerikis prezidenti

piradad Sexvda saqarTvelos me-

Taurs. amiT gaqarwylda oponentebis eWvebi

imis Sesaxeb, rom amerikam saqarTvelozec

da mis prezidentzec `xeli aiRo~.

_ obamas saqarTvelos prezidentTan SexvedriT

amerikam mTel msoflios da gansakuTrebiT

ki ruseTs, uCvena, rom isini arc fiqroben

kavkasiis daTmobas. vinc ar unda movides

prezidentad, mainc igives gaakeTeben rusebis

jibrze amerikelebi. Statebis mxardaWera kvlav

Zlieria da arc Sesustdeba. saqarTveloc

Zlierdeba da ruseTi uklebliv damibrunebs

yvela im miwas, rac araerTxel CamovTvale;

diax, keTils inebebs da damibrunebs!!!

_ qalbatono lela, sul axlaxans

palermos sasamarTlom 641 gverdiani verdiqti

gamoaqveyna, romelic berluskonis

mafiasTan kavSirs amtkicebs. italiis orma

partiam ukva ganacxada, rom gegmaSi aqvT

xelisuflebas gamoeyon da berluskonis

gadayenebis sakiTxi daayenon. riT

damTavrdeba es procesi?

_ imiT, rac nawinaswarmetyvelebi maqvs:

berluskonis mouwevs postTan gamomSvidobeba.

ise, mafiozobaSi, rom icodeT, mas arc safrangeTis

prezidenti sarkozi CamorCeba. da

saerTod, rom Camouaro, saxelmwifos meTaurebs

iseT monakveTebs aRmouCenT biografiebSi,

SeiZleba gagiJdeT. erTmaneTze uaresebi arian.

`aiReT qva da vinc marTali xarT, esroleT!~

_ ufalma es sityvebi kdev rom uTxras maT,

xels vercerTi gaanZrevs, isea saqme.

_ ruseTSi qveynis yofili premierministri

viqtor Cernomirdini gardaicvala.

gaCnda eWvi, rom igi moklulia da

amaSi putin-medvedevis xelic urevia, vinaidan,

rogorc misi Tanapartielebi amboben,

`Cernomirdini damoukidebeli moTamaSe

iyo da orivesTvis problemas warmoadgnda~.

Tqvens Sefasebas veli.

_ ruseTisTvis aranair problemas ar warmoadgens

vinmes Tavidan moSoreba, anu mokvla,

magram Cernomirdini namdvilad ar aris aravisi

mokluli. igi sul ar ainteresebdaT putinsa

da medvedevs am kuTxiT. ase rom, es mxoloddamxolod

piaraqciaa viRac-viRaceebisTvis.

_ qalbatono lela, soWis olimpiada

dasavluri presis mzeridan aradaar ikargeba.

axlaxans daiwera, rom putini am olimpiadis

gamo `mTebs daZravs~, anu yvelaferze

wava, vinaidan mas sakuTar pirmSod

miiCnevs. mainc, raze wava putini?

_ jer is ikiTxon, miaRweven ki olimpiadamde?

_ vin?

_ vin da orivem _ putinmac da medvedevmac.

ai mere ilaparakon imaze, raze wavlen

da raze _ ara. rusebs mainc mouwevT,

olimpiadis gareSec, CvenTan mimarTebaSi

daTmobebze wasvla da wavlen kidec. putins

xom ar hgonia, `afxazeTis damoukidebeli

saxelmwifos~ soWsa da saqarTvelos Soris

CaCxerviT vinmes daajerebs, rom olimpiadis

adgilidan cxeli wertili Sorsaa da

safrTxe ar arsebobs? ukacravad, magram

vinme boldeba am absurdiT? putini terorebs

ver SeaCerebs. daakvirdi, ukve rogori

salaparako xdeba es olimpiada: Caval, ar

Caval, gaimarTeba, ar gaimarTeba... es ukve

aris niSani imisa, rom winaswarmetyvelebebi

asruldeba.

_ ruseT-iaponias Soris kurilis kun-

Zulebis gamo dava grZeldeba da Tanda-

Tan rTuldeba. Tqvenma mkiTxvelma icis,

riTac unda damTavrdes es brZola, magram

isini, vinc axlaRa `SemogvierTda~,

dislocirebuli, mravalricxovani egzaltirebuli

brbos winaSe gamovida. mis gamosvla-

Si araferi iyo axali, garda erTisa: man

ganacxada, mTelma msofliom unda icodes,

rom sionistebi ganadgurebulebi iqnebian

uaxloes momavalSio...

_ dabolos: aSS msoflio savaWro

organizaciaSi ruseTis gawevrianebas Riad

uWers mxars da saqarTvelos `kreatiuli~

gadawyvetilebebis Ziebisken mouwodebs...

_ vfiqrob, kreatiuli gadawyvetileba

sworedac vaSingtonma miiRo msoflio

savaWro organizaciaSi ruseTis gawevrianebasTan

dakavSirebiT. amerikelebi eubnebian

rusebs, Cven erTgulni varT `gadatvirTvis~

politikisa, yvelanairad mxars

xSirad gvekiTxebian amas. modiT, maT gasagonad

vTqvaT, rom...

_ rom iaponia daibrunebs kurilis kunZulebs;

omzec ki Tanaxmaa, oRond kuTvnili

miwebi kvlav SeierTos.

_ qalbatono lela, zamTari kars

mogvadga da virusebis Tema aqtualuri

gaxda. gavrcelebuli informaciiT, saqarTvelos

miuRia gafrTxileba, rom `Roris

gripma~ mutacia ganicada da Camoyalibda

`axali gripi~, romelSic erTbaSad sami

virusia Tavmoyrili. ramdenad saSiSia axali

virusi, gavrceldeba Tu ara igi

saqarTveloSi da ra Sedegebs moitans?

_ Rorisa da qaTmis gripebze arafers

vxedav. warsulSic tyuilad daaxocines xalxs

frinvel-saqoneli.

_ kidev erTi axali informacia

saqarTvelosTvis. irkveva, rom Cvens qveyanaSi

samxreTafrikeli burebis SesaZlo

Camosaxlebazea saubari.

_ burebi bevrs sjobian, vinc Cvens miwaze

saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi cxovroben, magram es

qveyana samSoblod veradaver eqcaT; romlebic

mainc yovelwamierad mzad arian, zurgSi dana

Cagvcen da gagvanadguron. burebi ki (sxvaTa

Soris, garegnobiT friad sasiamovno xalxi) im

adgils, sadac mkvidrdebian, marTla sakuTar

samSoblod isisxlxorceben da ukanasknel

amosunTqvamde TavganwirviT emsaxurebian da icaven.

ara mgonia, vinmesTvis ucxo iyos amgvari,

davarqvaT amas, sisxlis Sereva. aseTi Serevebi

yovelTvis xdeboda. gaixseneT qarTveli mamluqebi,

aRmosavleTSi gatacebuli qarTveli qalebi.

sxvaTa Soris, burebs iseTi istoria aqvT,

rom misi gacnoba karg STabeWdilebas dagitovebT.

rogorc Cans, niko burma raRac mSobliuri

Seicno maTSi da amitomac ibrZoda maT

mxares.

_ ese igi, Camoasaxleben burebs?

_ ara, am process jerjerobiT ar vxedav.

ubralod, es pasuxi iyo Cemi gulwrfeli

reaqcia Sens kiTxvaze. ai momavalSi ki vxedav,

rom burebi Camosaxldebian! axlave, amTaviTve

vafrTxileb Sadimanebs, nu daiwyeben gniass. es

nabiji saqarTvelos sasikeTod gadaidgmeba.

gaixseneT, saqarTvelos udidesma da SeiZleba

iTqvas, umTavresma mefem, daviT aRmaSenebelma

ujiSo yivCaRebi Semoyara qveyanaSi, roca saqmes

dasWirda da ra gikvirT?

_ qalbatono lela, Cemi Semdegi

kiTxva sruliad apolitikuria da Tanac,

albaT, Zalian `saSoreulmomavlo~, an

iqneb sulac ararealuri. iaponurma

`Cimizu korporeiSnma~ sazogadoebas warudina

fantastikuri da Zalian lamazi

proeqti wynar okeneSi mocurave qalaqebis

gaSenebis Sesaxeb. isini amtkiceben, rom

momavlis adamianebs wyalze modreife

patar-patara qalaqebSi SeeZlebaT cxovreba.

ramdenad realuria amgvari

qalaqebis daarseba, miva kacobrioba

aqamde, an dasWirdeba ki saerTod ase-

Ti dasaxlebebi?

_ am da kidev sxva proeqtebsac ganaxorcieleben

momavalSi. metsac getyviT, vxedav

samgzavro TviTmfrinavis msgavs xomalds wyalze,

romelic safrTxis SemTxvevaSi myisierad

iWreba caSi. mas arc gasarbeni biliki sWirdeba

da arc siCqaris akrefa asafrenad. xom

vTqvi, mecnierebi gasaognebel aRmoCenebs gaakeTeben-meTqi

da es asec iqneba.

_ dabolos: qalbatono lela, gazeTis

am nomerSi Tqveni Zveli megobris zurab

mWedliSvilis interviu ibeWdeba, romelic

mas sainformacio saagentosTvis `pirveli~

miucia. minda giTxraT, rom interviu

metad sainteresoa...

_ da kargad gaanalizebulic. zurabi Cemi

didi xnis megobaria. Cven, sanam is saqarTvelo-

Si cxovrobda, xSirad vxvdebodiT erTmaneTs

da misTvis saintereso bevr sakiTxze vsaubrobdiT.

axla is StatebSi cxovrobs, moRvaweobs

da imis gaTvaliswinebiT, ra infromaciac aqvs

miRebuli Cemgan, marTlac safuZvlian da Wkvianur

politikur daskvnebs aqveynebs. rac friad

misasalmebelia.

internet-media internet-media

giWerT savaWro organizaciaSi gawevrianebaSi,

magram Tqven seriozuli problemebi

gaqvT saqarTvelosTan, amitomac keTili

inebeT da gamonaxeT saerTo ena masTan.

Cemi, rogorc Suamavlis imedi ki am saqmeSi

nu geqnebaT!~ amerikelebi iuridiuladac

da moraluradac marTlebi arian rusebis

winaSe da kremli maT Cveulebisamebr Sars

veraferSi mosdebs...

adrec miTqvams da gavimeoreb: `didi~

ruseTi viriviT unda idges msoflio savaWro

organizaciis karTan da mTeli msoflio

xedavdes, ratom ar uSvebs mas SigniT `patara

ekonomikis~ mqone saqarTvelo. es umniSvnelovanesi

politikuri sakiTxia da saqarTvelos

xelisuflebam iotisodenac ar unda

daTmos principebi!

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