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interviu Cawerilia 24 Tebervals.

_ qalbatono lela, minda interviu

arapolitikuri TemiT daviwyo. rogorc

cnobili gaxda, CeliabinskSi meteoriti

Camovarda, romelmac miliardobiT rublis

zarali miayena qalaqs. Tavad Celiabinskis

mosaxleoba (da ara mxolod)

ratomRac Camovardnili sxeulis kosmosur

warmomavlobas eWvqveS ayenebs. amaze

isini bevrs msjeloben sxvadasxva internet-forumebze.

_ verafriT davarqmev am sxeuls meteorits,

radgan xedvaSi mas amis aranairi niSani

ar aqvs. vxedav, eZeben da ver pouloben.

verc ipovian. es ufro samxedro iaraRia,

`SemTxveviT~ gavardnili da sxva araferi.

mova dro da amasac ityvian, vin, saidan da

ra gaisrola.

_ gamodis, rom politikas mainc

ver avcdiT?

_ vera.

_ qalbatono lela, ukrainam uari

ganacxada `gazpromis~ mier dakisrebuli

7 miliardi dolaris jarimis gadaxdaze.

gaamwvavebs Tu ara es uari am

or qveyenas Soris warmoebul `gazis

oms~, Tu romelime maTgani ukan daixevs

da problema am gziT aRmoifxvreba?

_ gazTan dakavSirebiT ruseTsa da ukrainas

Soris iyo problemebi da kvalavac iqneba.

saqme isaa, rom rogorc ki ruseTi ukmayofilo

rCeba ukrainis politikiT, gazi maSin

axsendeba. es xom maTi iaraRia?! ase iqneba

mudam. magram aqve unda aRvniSno, rom ukraina

arafersac ar gadauxdis ruseTs. da ras

izams ruseTi, romelic sxva qveynebSi mcxovreb

Tavis moqalaqeebs agrerigad `Tavdauzogavad

icavs?~ gawiravs ukrainaSi mcxovreb

milionobiT russ da bunebrivi airis gareSe

datovebs Tu ra? mokled, ase gagrZeldeba

maT Soris dava.

_ qalbatono lela, qalaq moskovis

mTavrobam miiRo gadawyvetileba, Camoayalibos

saxalxo razmebi _ `migraciuli

patruli~ _ romlebic aralegal

gasterbaiterebs gamoavlenen. aris Tu

ara es dasawyisi im winaswarmetyvelebis

asrulebisa, sadac Tqven brZanebT,

rom rusebi sxva erovnebis adamianebis

masStabur gasaxlebas daiwyeben?

_ diax, sworedac asea. oRond es gadawyvetileba

realurad qalaqis mTavrobam ki

ar miiRo, brZaneba uSualod kremlidan modis.

sxvaTa Soris, es `migraciuli patruli~,

kargi iqneboda, cota adre CamoeyalibebinaT.

_ ratom?

_ imitom, rom aseT SemTxvevaSi `skinhedebs~

danaSaulebrivi moqmedebis areals

Seumcirebdnen da gamovlenil aralegal Tu

legal gasterbaiterebs cocxlebs mainc

daabrunebdnen TavianT qveynebSi. Zalian bevri

adamiani gamoasalmes sicocxles am fa-

Sisturi moZraobis wevrebma. amis srulad

aRkveTa Tu ara, xelis SeSla mainc SeiZleboda.

amaze jer kidev maSin unda ezrunaT,

roca uamravma muslimma morwmunem moskovis

quCebi gadaketa da cxvrebis dakvla iqve

daiwyo. ai maSin xom xiluli iyo da Tval-

Si sacemi, ra raodenobis ucxoqveyneli

cxovrobda qalaqSi? xom TvalnaTliv Canda,

rom sxva qveynebidan wamosulma nakadma slavebi,

faqtobrivad, gadafares? skinhedebis gaaqtiurebis

faqtebic xom cnobili iyo da raRas

elodebodnen?

sxvaTa Soris, vxedav, mag `migraciul patrul-

Si~ bevri moxalise gaerTiandeba.

ise, iumori rom gavurioT, putinis saocnebo

sabWoTa kavSiri mas ukve aqvs moskovSi

_ iq xom yvela postsabWoTa qveynis warmoadgenlebi

cxovroben.

_ es procesi mSvidobiani iqneba Tu

garTulebebi mohyveba?

_ aralegalebis gamovlena-gasaxlebas

arcerT qveyanaSi ar Cauvlia mSvidad da

ruseTSi ormagad mZimed Caivlis. es imitom,

rom Tavad mkvidri mosaxleoba ukve Zalian

uaryofiTadaa migrantebis mimarT ganwyobili.

ai, amitom vambob, aqamde unda momx-

da me getyviT Tqven...

mkiTxvels yovel nomerSi vTavazobT intervius

qarTvel winaswarmetyvelTan. igi isaubrebs

mocemuli momentisTvis yvelaze metad

aqtualur Temebze, Tumca qalbatoni lelas

pasuxebi yovelTvis efuZneba ramdenime wlis

win Caweril winaswarmetyvelebebs.

dariyo es yvelaferi-meTqi, anu manam, sanam

xalxi Zalian gaRiziandeboda.

_ mxolod aralegalebs gaasaxleben

Tu legalurad mosaxleebsac miayoleben?

_ erTianad mousvamen yvelas niCabs.

_ mohyvebian Tu ara am procesSi

qarTvelebi?

_ ki, qarTvelebic mohyvebian. kidev gimeoreb,

es brZaneba modis kremlidan, romlis

binadarTac aranairad ar awyobT qveyanaSi

macxovrebeli milionobiT ucxoqveyneli. amitomac

yvelas miadgebian. rusebi am axal

samsaxurs kulturulad arqmeven `migraciul

saxalxo patruls~, Torem sinamdvileSi

omisTvisac ki mzad arian araslavebis

gasayrelad.

_ qalbatono lela, droulia Tu

ara saqarTvelos mTavrobis mier wamoWrili

iniciativa ruseTTan urTierTobis

gamosworebis Taobaze? anu, mohyveba

ki Sedegi mcdelobas, arafris daTmobis

fasad aRvadginoT am saxelmwifosTan

urTierTobebi mokle periodSi?

_ ruseTTan urTierTobis didad gamosworebas

jer ar vxedav! rusebi dRes imaze

uares moTxovnebs ayeneben, vidre SevardnaZis

dros. kremli saerTod arc fiqrobs jerjerobiT

raimes Semsubuqebas da ultimatumebs

gviyenebs, me `derJava~ var da Tqven

unda damemorCiloTo! saqarTvelom aucileblad

kvlav imgvari politika unda gaataros

maTTan mimarTebaSi, rogoric tardeboda

dRemde. anu xmamaRla, msoflios gasagonad

ilaparakos yvela im arakanonierebasa da

usamarTlobaze, rasac isini Cvens mimarT

axorcieleben da ganaxorcieleben. rusebs

Cveni aseTi qmedebebiT xelfexi, ase Tu ise,

daborkili hqondaT. mokled, jerjerobiT

nurafer sikeTes nu eliT maTgan.

axla iqiT davsvam kiTxvas: romeli saxelmwifos

mimarT ginaxavT ruseTi damTmobis

rolSi? Tavadve gipasuxebT: arcerTis! sanam

ruseTSi mTavroba ar gamoicvleba da masTan

erTad qveynis politikac sxva saxelmwifoebis

mimarT, es `derJavuli~ damokidebuleba

da toni ar Seicvleba.

_ magram es moxdeba...

_ ki, moxdeba aucileblad. amaze bevri

ram maqvs naTqvami.

_ qalbatono lela, warsulSi, roca

ruseTi, ase vTqvaT, antiqarTul dietaze

dajda, anu akrZala qarTuli

produqciis Setana sakuTar saxelmwifoSi,

Tqven brZaneT, rom ekonomikuri

kavSirebi Cvens Soris mainc aRdgeboda.

es dro mainc Tu dadga?

_ ekonomikuri kavSirebis aRdgenis dro

dadga. saqme isaa, rom rusebi zogadad

mxolod im SeTanxmebebze midian, romlebic

Tavad awyobT da sWirdebaT. asea am SemTxvevaSic.

Tumca, gamaRizianebelia maTi poza,

aqeT rom cdiloben zemodan gadmogvxedon,

ai, xom mainc dagWirdiTo! da es maSin,

roca realurad piriqiTaa.

_ anu, maT vWirdebiT?

_ diaxac! da amas momavali Riad dagvanaxebs

yvelas. ar mainteresebs, dRes vis

sjera es da vis _ ara. me politikur

analizebs ar vakeTeb. me momavals pirdapir

vxedav da vwinaswarmetyveleb. winaswarmetyveleba

ki yovelTvis sruldeba!

_ qalbatono lela, saqarTvelos

mTavrobam ganacxada, rom Cveni sportsmenebi

monawileobas miiReben soWis 2014

wlis olimpiadaSi, rasac azrTa sxvadasxvaoba

mohyva. vin momxrea am gadawyvetilebisa

da vin kidev _ mowinaaRmdege.

Tqveni xedva mainteresebs am sakiTxze:

ramdenad gamarTlebulia saqarTvelos

monawileoba okupanti qveynis teritoriaze

gamarTul sportul RonisZiebaSi?

_ Sensave SekiTxvaSi JRers pasuxi: òkupanti

saxelmwifos teritoriaze gamarTuli

sportuli RoniZieba!~ aba, riT gamarTldeba

es nabiji?! yvelafers Tavi davaneboT, soWi

aqvea, ramdenime saaTis savalze da Cvenma

sportulma delegaciam, vTqvaT, afxazeTis

gavliT moiwadina iq Casvla, gagikvirdebaT,

afxazeTSi Sesvlaze vizebi rom mogvTxovon?

da mere ras vizamT? aviRebT vizebs Cvens

kuTvnil, Zaladobrivad warTmeul teritoriebze

usamarTlod gavlebul sazRvarze gadasasvlelad

Tu ra?..

ise ki, jer saerTod Catardes es olimpiada

da danarCenze mere vilaparakoT!!!

_ Cveni mkiTxvelisTvis cnobilia

Tqveni winaswarmetyvelebebi soWis olimpiadasTan

dakavSirebiT...

_ hoda, gadaxedon da gaixsenon, ras

vwer am Temaze.

_ qalbatono lela, gavrcelda informacia,

rom Tbilisis zRvaze didi

Cinuri dasaxleba unda aSendes. Tqven

warsulSi, jer kidev maSin, rodesac

saqarTveloSi CineTis saelCos Tanam-

Sromlebis garda, sxva Cinels ver naxavdiT,

iwinaswarmetyveleT am Temaze

da es Canaweri kidec gamoqveynda Cvens

gazeTSi, magram iqneb SevaxsenoT aRelvebuls

sazogadoebas igi?

_ mokled vityvi imas, rac warsulSi

mravaljer miTqvams: Cinelebi fexs mainc ver

moikideben saqarTveloSi! saerTod, erTi ram

axsovdes yvelas: rasac ucxoqveynelebi aaSeneben

da gaakeTeben Cvens qveyanaSi, yvelaferi aq

da Cven dagvrCeba! ai, Tundac 2004 wlis 5

agvistos winaswarmetyveleba: ùcxo biznesmeni

xelSi ver Caigdebs qarTul simdidres,

yvelaferi saqarTveloSi rCeba!~ da kidev

erTic: 2008 wlis 30 martisa: ùcxo

tomi fexs ver moikidebs qarTul miwaze!

yvelaferi qarTvelebs rCebaT! ase vxedav da

asec iqneba!~

_ da kidev erTi mSeneblobis Sesaxeb.

saqarTveloSi xudonhesis mSenebloba

droebiT, ramdenime TviT SeCerda. Seikriba

samuSao jgufi, romelSic arasamTavrobo

organizaciebi, damoukidebeli

eqspertebi, energetikosebi da garemos

damcvelebi Sedian. am jgufma unda miiRos

gadawyvetileba, gagrZeldes Tu

ara mSenebloba. anu maT unda dadon

daskvna, ra saxis ekologiuri ziani

SeiZleba miadges amiT garemos da saer-

Tod, Rirs Tu ara am hesis aSeneba. me

Tqveni xedva mainteresebs am sakiTxze:

unda aSendes Tu ara xudonhesi? anu,

ramdenad saWiroa igi saqarTvelosTvis

da miadgeba Tu ara raime gamousworebeli

ziani bunebas misi aSenebiT?

_ saerTod, roca aseTi didi proeqtiT

iWrebi bunebis mowyobaSi, ra Tqma unda,

darRvevebi xdeba. mTavaria, es darRvevebi

iseTi masStabisa ar iyos, rom wagvlekos.

ai es unda gansazRvros saxelmwifom, anu

dargis specialistebma, Torem, magaliTisTvis

rom vTqvaT, cudia, Jinvalhesi rom gvaqvs?

misma agebamac gamoiwvia garkveuli cvlilebebi

da rRvevebi bunebaSi, magram gana ar

gvWirdeboda es hesi? gvWirdeboda da Tanac,

rogor?! mokled, 20 welia, sul am xudonzea

laparaki da daadgeba saSveli bolosdabolos.

miTxariT, gana cudia, sakuTari

energia gamovimuSavoT da mere, garda imisa,

rom Tavadac movixmaroT, kidec gavyidoT

sxva qveynebze?

_ aqve minda am Temaze #60-Si

gamoqveynebuli Tqveni interviudan nawyvetic

moviyvano: `vxedav, sxva gza ar

arsebobs, xudonhesi unda aigos! es

saqarTvelos aucileblad sWirdeba. mesmis

xaiSelTa gancdebisa, magram qveynis

interesebidan gamomdinare, mouwevT sxva

adgilze sacxovreblad gadasvla. ase

iyo Jinvalhesis SemTxvevaSic. atomuri

eleqtrosadguris agebas, hidrosadguris

aSeneba da misTvis erTi soflis Sewirva

sjobs. es usafrTxo da uwyveti eleqtromomaragebis

wyaroa, riTac qveyana bevrnairad

isargeblebs~.

_ meti raRa vTqva?

_ kargiT, sxva Temaze gadavideT.

rogor SeafasebT ganaTlebis saministros

iniciativas, saxelmwifom srulad

daafinansos fizikis, maTematikis, qimiis,

filologiis, istoriis, arqeologiis,

manqanaTmSeneblobis, soflis meurneobisa

da a.S fakultetebi? ramdenad

sworad aris SerCeuli dargebi, romlebic

am CamonaTvalSia?

_ mokled getyvi: mag gadawyvetilebebs

kidev ramdenjerme Secvlian.

_ qalbatono lela, Tqvens arqivSi

oriode dRis win CemTvis manamde ucnobi

uamravi saintereso werili da

calkeul furclebze Canaweri aRmova-

Cine. erT-erTi aseTi CanawerTagani ase

gamoiyureba: `muslimebi TeTr saxls

bombs esvrian. 2002 weli. 4 marti~.

_ Cems arqivSi aseTi Canawerebi mravladaa.

Tu rveulTan axlos ar var, mowo-

(GAGgagrZeleba gv.6)

mTavari redaqtori: irma gelaSvili

gazeTi registrirebulia vake-saburTalos raionul sagadasaxado inspeqciaSi.

gazeTSi da vebgverdze gamoyenebuli masalebis da fotoebis gadabeWdva-gamoqveyneba

redaqciis Tanxmobis gareSe akrZalulia. saavtoro uflebebi daculia.

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kosmosSi kosmosSi kosmosSi dro dro dro ar ar ar arsebobs!

arsebobs!

arsebobs!

`winaswarmetyvelebam ar icis Svili da qmari, axlobeli da

megobari. Cven vambobT imas, rasac vxedavT da gveubnebian...

miiReT ise, rogorc vwinaswarmetyveleb!~

2013 weli, 15 Tebervali.

CrdiloeT koreis mier birTvuli iaraRis

gamocda, TavaSvebuli qmedebebi, aqamdec aforiaqebda

msoflios qveynebs, magram axla

kidev metad aforiaqdebian da vxedav, rogor

gasresen mas politikur WrilSi. CrdiloeT

koreas dauweseben umZimes sanqciebs _ ki ar

ilaparakeben, aramed moqmedebebze gadavlen.

imavdroulad Seecdebian daakanonon birTvuli

iaraRis gamoyenebis, gamocdis akrZalva.

amerika wamoayenebs winadadebas, rom

gadaixedos im qveynebis sia, romlebsac

aqvT birTvuli iaraRis flobis

ufleba da daiwyon misi gacxrilva,

anu, rac SeiZleba minimumamde daiyvanon

am qveynebis raodenoba.

es kanoni namdvilad saWiroa, imitom, rom

momavalSi vxedav, visac rogorc unda, ise

moixmars am iaraRs principiT `Cemia da sadac

minda iq visvri!~ diax, momavalSi Zalian saSiS

saxes Rebulobs birTvuli iaraRis arseboba.

es imitom, rom arian qveynebi, romlebic Zalian

msubuqad uyureben am Temas, rogorc samxedro

iaraRs. Sors ar aris is dRe, rom zustad am

saxelmwifoebma wamoiwyon birTvuli omi.

ase rom, CrdiloeT koreis qmedebebiT

gaRizianebuli msoflios wamyvani qveynebi

Zalian mkacr wnexSi gaatareben mas.

aq, ra Tqma unda, iranis sakiTxia win

wamoweuli. erTaderTi gza, romliTac maT

mier uranis gamdidrebis (romelic ukve gamdidrebulic

aqvT) sakiTxi gadawydeba, samxedro

moqmedebebia (iranTan dakavSirebiT mravali

ram viwinaswarmetyvele jer kidev 20 wlis

win, rac dRes ukve saxezea). vxedav, birTvuli

iaraRis sakiTxebi msoflios wamyvani qveynebis

gadasawyveti iqneba, rac msoflios gadaarCens.

Tumca manamde iqneba omebi _ amas kacobrioba

ver aicilebs _ romlebic uamrav

sicocxles waiRebs dedamiwaze. am omSi mniSvnelovani

roli ekisreba israels, romelic

bevr rames Secvlis msoflio politikaSi.

ruseTis politika axlo aRmosavleTSi ver

tardeba iseTi siZlieriT, rogorc maT warmoudgeniaT.

ruseTis, ase vTqvaT, uZlureba,

Zalian male gamoCndeba. da gamoCnda kidec

siriasTan dakavSirebiT, roca im daxmarebas

ver uwevs, rac Cans. ki, amerika da evropa

mxolod gafrTxilebebiT Semoifarglebian siriis

mimarT, rom es yvelaferi unda Sewydes, magram

es maTi taqtikaa: radgan ruseTis Zala da

mxardaWera gadaxrilia siriisken, es mudmivi

gafrTxilebebi aris aRniSvna da xazgasma ruse-

Tis susti politikisa. isini ruseTis politikur

kraxs bolomde elodebian. ai mere nato

amoqmeddeba da vin aris Zlieri am WidilSi,

gamoCndeba. es, ra Tqma unda, amerikaa! saboloo

jamSi, sirias vxedav miwasTan gasworebuls.

TiTqos am Sidaomebs bolo ar uCans. xalxi

codoa! yvela mxsnels elodeba, magram saubedurod,

wamyvani qveynebi politikas TamaSoben.

momavalSi, vxedav, siriaSi modis axali

dajgufeba. yurSi Camesmis, rom es muslimebi

ar arian! vcdilob, SevewinaaRmdego am xmas,

magram isev mesmis: `dawere, rogorc geubnebiT!~

diax, es jgufi muslimebi ar arian,

magram axlos dganan am religiasTan. saintereso

isaa, rom aravin icis, saidan movidnen.

am jgufis Zala _ es aris kosmosidan

wamosuli Zala, romelTac win uZRviT Cemi

winaswarmetyvelebebi! es gadaarCens siriel xalxs!

da es Zala, Tqven warmoidgineT, xiluli

iqneba xalxebisTvis da mas veravin aRudgeba

win!!! saqme isaa, rom miwierad ar arsebobs

Zala, romelic SeZlebs am xocva-Jletis Se-

Cerebas. dgeba dro, rodesac dedamiwa iZabeba,

ireva da erTaderTi mxsneli _ es kosmosia!

kosmosi yovelTvis modioda warsulSic,

roca dedamiwas uWirda da

katastrofis winaSe idgnen xalxebi.

Tuki romelime civilizacia ar gadaarCina

kosmosma warsulSi, es imitom,

rom swored es civilizacia

daRupavda dedamiwas momavalSi!

yvelaferi kanonzomieria, adamianebo! nu ggoniaT,

rom Tqven martoni xarT dedamiwaze. ufro

metic: nu ggoniaT, rom Tqven Zalian niWierebi

xarT da rasac Tqven igonebT Tu qmniT, Tqvengan

modis. yvelaferi es modis kosmosidan! amis

damamtkicebeli bevri magaliTic iqneba.

dedamiwis gaqrobas orbitidan mTeli msoflio

elodeboda Cem garda _ lela kakulias

garda. da rogorc yovelTvis, aqac, maias

tomis kalendris SemTxvevaSic, Cveni kosmiuri

informacia zusti gamodga! me minda,

ukve meramdened, davamSvido adamianebi:

ki, iqneba miwisZvrebi _ didi miwisZvrebi,

didi wyaldidobebi, didi omebi, warmoiqmneba

axali saxelmwifoebi, axali kunZulebi da axali

adamianebi axali msoflmxedvelobiT, magram dedamiwa

myarad dgas da araferic ar mouva arasdros!

mecnierebi ki mainc Tavisas ikvleven, axali

magaliTebi mohyavT meored mosvlisa, magram

isev is asruldeba, rac kosmosma brZana.

ase rom, kidev vakonkreteb: siriaSi omi

damTavrdeba. sirielebs saTaveSi Caudgeba Cemi

nawinaswrmetyvelebi jgufi da ase gadarCeba

sirieli xalxi. sxvaTa Soris, sirias, rogorc

saxelmwifos, ise aRiarebs msoflio momaval-

Si. amas imitom vwer, rom misi saxelmwifoebriobis

sakiTxi momavalSi kiTxvis niSnis

qveS dadgeba! rasac axla vwinaswarmetyveleb,

es Zalze mniSvnelovania siriisTvis. es niSnavs

imas, rom siria, rogorc saxelmwifo,

ar aRigveba pirisagan miwisa! kosmosi exmareba

da gadaarCens kidec siriel xalxs. omebi

ki grZeldeba dRes, magram is uamravi sakiTxi,

romlebic dagrovilia msoflio politikaSi,

mxolod am gziT gadawydeba.

egvipteSi kvlav grZeldeba uTanxmoeba,

gamosvlebi, mitingebi. TiTqos es xalxi sxvadasxva

enaze laparakobs, erTmaneTisa ar

esmiT. vxedav, rom maT arcerTi mTavroba ar

akmayofilebT. vinc ar unda movides saTave-

Si, isev ganagrZoben mitingebs.

saerTod, xalxs misce didi ufleba

politikaSi Carevisa, dauSvebelia!

es SesaZlebelia mxolod garkveuli

doziT, raTa zRvari ar dairRves.

Tu sazRvari ar iqna dawesebuli,

adamianebi brbod gardaiqmnebian da

maT moTxovnebs _ uazro moTxovnebs,

bolo ar ar eqneba.

es moTxovnebi SEemdeg rTul fazaSi gadadis,

risTvisac ibrZvian, is sakiTxi saerTod qreba,

mere iwyeba Zarcva-gleja, uazro revolucia,

anu grZeldeba igi da Tu samxedro Zala ar

gamoiyene, xalxs ver daaSoSmineb. mere momaval-

Si es qaosi mainc ar neldeba, rac Zalian

cudia xalxisTvisac da saxelmwifosTvisac.

egvipteSi `muslimi Zmebi~ ar unda mosuliyvnen.

isini ver moerivnen situacias, ver

warmarTes politika ise, rogorc saWiro iyo.

jer xalxi unda daaSoSmino da miuCino Tavisi

adgili, aCveno Zala, gaagebino, rom kanonia

upirveles adgilze. ai amis mere wesrigi

moitans simSvidesa da gonivrul gadawyvetilebebs.

igive moxdeba egvipteSic: mova Zlieri pirovneba.

mas evropuli ganaTleba _ samxedro ganaTleba

aqvs miRebuli. uyvars Tavisi samSoblo.

amaSic amerikelebis xeli urevia, marTalia,

lela kakulia

magram es arafers niSnavs, vinaidan egvipteSi

dapirispirebebi Caqreba momavalSi. damSviddeba

egvipte, TiTqos araviTari omebi arc yofila.

es didi gakveTilia egvipteli xalxisa da

egviptis mTavrobisTvisac. amitom konstitucias

cvlian, raTa momavalSi aseTi gamosvlebi aRkveTon

Zalis gamoyenebiT. vxedav, momavalSi egvipteSi

simSvidea, turistebis nakadsac vxedav da imaze

metad lamaz qveyanas, vidre iyo warsulSi.

aqac kosmosis xeli urevia.

rac Seexeba palestinas, iqac Sidaomebia. palestinaSic

didi cvlilebebi moxdeba momavalSi.

TiTqos, rogorc saxelmwifo arc aris Camoyalibebuli

da verc yalibdeba. maT jerjerobiT

saxelmwifos statusi ar mieniWebaT. imitom, rom

es ar surs israels, ar awyobs, da israelTan

erTad, arc amerikasa da evropas. wamyvani qveynebis

TamaSi Zalian kargad esmiT palestinelebs,

ician, rom am oms jerjerobiT ver moigeben.

isini skandireben erTsa da igives: `mogveciT

saxelmwifos statusi!~ da es qmedeba gamiznulia

imisaTvis, rom Tavi Seaxsenon msoflios, aqaoda,

Cven varsebobT, SemogvxedeT, ar dagaviwydeT,

wamyvano qveyneboo! amiT palestina tivtivebs

zedapirze da meti araferi. israeli ki

ibrZvis (me amaze bevri ram maqvs nawinaswarmetyvelebi).

is, rom israeli daupirispirdeba irans,

gardauvalia! ebraelebi aravis arafers SearCenen,

ra Tqma unda, palestinas arafers dauTmoben,

miTvisebul miwebze aSeneben ebraul dasaxlebebs.

es jer kidev 1992-93 wlebSi viwinaswarmetyvele.

minda aRvniSno, rom ebraelebi

momavalSi yvelanair Setevas gauZleben, yvelanair

oms moigeben saboloo jamSi.

amerika, vxedav, avRaneTs ar datovebs

bolomde. piriqiT, axlo

aRmosavleTSi momavalSi amerikas

Zlieri gavlena eqneba.

Tavad amerikaSic aucileblad Seicvleba

momavalSi Sidapolitika. imitom, rom msoflio

politikac moiTxovs am cvlilebebs.

uamravi sakiTxia dagrovili msoflio politikaSi,

romlebic unda gadaWran amerikam da

evropam erToblivad.

vxedav did mdinares, romelic amerikis

ramdenime qalaqs did zians miayenebs. albaT,

es is adgilia, sadac kompaqturad arian

dasaxlebulebi indielebi. iqneba panika, magram

TiTqos mdinare dawynardeba. ar motyuvdeT:

saWiroa mosaxleoba gaxiznoT! es asec moxdeba.

xalxs gaiyvanen da bevri adamiani gadarCeba.

amerika saerTod `mdidaria~ bunebrivi kataklizmebiT,

gansakuTrebiT, qariSxlebiT. magram

minda aRvniSno, rom modis dro, roca

es qariSxlebi mimarTulebas icvlian da

iseTi ZaliT aRar artyamen Statebs. mniSvnelovani

iqneba isic, rom amerikis mTavrobis

wevrebi icvlebian da es iqneba saukeTeso

gamosavali amerikis politikisTvis.

aseve vxedav, rom evropasac Seawuxebs bunebrivi

kataklizmebi. gansakuTrebiT, wyaldidobebi.

evropaSi moxdeba ori didi miwisZvra.

vxedav mTas, anu vulkans, romelic aucilebelad

amoxeTqavs. espaneTis didi qalaqi

itboreba wyliT. minda aqve aRvniSno, rom

momavalSi espaneTis ekonomikuri done aiwevs,

umuSevroba Semcirdeba da xalxi amoisunTqavs.

aseve vxedav, rom saberZneTSic simSvidea

da mTavroba xalxis moTxovnebs akmayofilebs.

mTavroba, romelsac vxedav, es axali xalxia.

saberZneTSi sagrZnoblad Seicvleba yvelaferi

xalxis sasargeblod.

italiaSi vulkani amoxeTqavs. Tumca amas didi

ngreva da sikvdilianoba ar mohyveba. italiis

politikas rTuli periodebi elis. iq aucileblad

moxdeba mTavrobis cvlileba. aseve didi

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cvlilebebi iqneba mraval sxvadasxva qveyanaSic.

ukrainaSic Zalian didi cvlilebebi iqneba

mTavrobis xaziT. xalxi gaRizianebulia.

dRevandeli mTavroba mxardamWerebs kargavs.

mTavrobis reitingi ecema ufro metad timoSenkosgan

gamomdinare. rac ar unda miusajon

timoSenkos, is mainc gamova cixidan. ase

rom ukrainas win didi sirTuleebi udevs.

am sirTuleebs TviTon timoSenko Seuqmnis

momavalSi, Tu janmrTelad iqna.

saerTod, msoflioSi bevri ram icvleba,

rogorc yovelTvis, magram yvelaferi sikeTisken.

2013 weli, 16 Tebervali.

ruseTSi, vxedav, politika TiTqos erT

adgilze gaiyina. opoziciis talRa, romelic

wamovida, mTavrobam SeaCera; ise SeaCera, rom

yvelanairi gza gadauketa moqmedebebisa. magram

es procesic droebiTia, rogorc yvelaferi

da modian, vxedav, marTla opozicionerebi,

romelTac yvela politikuri nabiji

gamoTvlili aqvT ise, rom veravin ver mie-

daveba. moqmedeben Zalze Wkvianurad, hyavT

Zalian Zlieri damfinanseblebi da zustad es

xalxi gadawyvets ruseTis beds. es is xalxia,

vinc dRevandel mTavrobas daamarcxebs asi

procentiT. sakmaod ganaTlebulebi da gawvrTnilebi

arian, gansakuTrebiT, politikis xaziT.

vxedav, mTeli rusi xalxi maT gahyveba, seriozul

Zalebs miimxroben. es is xalxia, romelTac

sabWoTa kavSiris aRdgena ar ainteresebT;

ainteresebT mxolod slavebi, anu TavianTi

xalxi TavianT sakuTar teritoriebSi.

aq minda aRvniSno: vxedav, rom momavalSi

afxazTi da samaCablo ar

Sedis rusuli politikis interesSi.

ruseTs es teritoria, anu omebi ar sWirdeba.

isini rusul siZlieres sul sxva rameSi xedaven.

es aris rusuli, slavuri miwebis gamyareba da

zedmeti teritoriebis mocileba. am zedmet teritoriebSi

me vgulisxmob yofil sabWoTa respublikebs.

Zalian mniSvnelovania, rasac amwuTas

vxedav, vinaidan uamravi sadavo sakiTxi yofili

sabWoTa qveynebisTvis gansakuTrebuli mniSvnelobisaa.

dRevandeli rusuli politika did sirTuleebs

Tavad rus xalxs uqmnis. ruseTi Tavs ver

arTmevs mimdinare politikur movlenebs. ukusvla

ufro aqvT, vidre winsvla. ruseTi momgebian

pozicias ver ikavebs, faqtobrivad, Zalufleba

dakarguli aqvs da verc win midis da verc

ukan. uamravi drois xarjvis, uzarmazari saxelmwifos

daSlis, msoflioSi wamgebiani politikis

garda arsebobs uaresi problemebic samxedro

xaziT, rasac rusuli mTavroba ver gamoasworebs.

ixarjeba uzarmazari Tanxebi samxedro

sferosTvis, magram adgilidan Zvra ar aris,

piriqiT. viRaceebi ki karg fuls akeTeben. es

imdenad naTlad gamoikveTeba momavalSi, rom

yvela xedavs, droa, gamoicvalos mTavroba.

isev vxedav mTavrobis warmomadgenlis

sikvdils. es iqneba moulodneloba.

ruseTis savaWro urTierTobebi saqarTvelosTan

ki aRdgeba, magram moskovis toni Tbilisis

mimarT aravis moswons. amas hqvia, Cveuleba

rjulze umtkicesiao! ruseTma Tu ar dainaxa,

rom saqarTvelo dRes sul sxva saxelmwifoa,

romelsac evropa da amerika angariSs uweven, da

amasTan, amerika arcerT SemTxvevaSi ar daTmobs

saqarTvelos (rac uamravjer maqvs naTqvami),

ruseTi urTierTobas ver aawyobs saqarTvelosTan.

es ki ruseTisTvis Zalze wamgebiania, radgan

kavkasiaSi saqarTveloa lideri! ruseTi iTamaSebs,

TiTqos misTvis saqarTvelo arafers

warmoadgens, ar sWirdeba da a.S. rusebs exerxebaT,

Tavis ase moCveneba, magram Tu asea, maSin

datovos saqarTvelo, rad eWideba, ratom ar

gadis rokis gvirabs miRma? imitom, rom ruseTs

Zalianac sWirdeba saqarTvelo da Tanac, upirvelesad,

partnioris rangSi, vinaidan saqarTvelo

aseve sWirdeba azerbaijans, somxeTs xom haeriv-

iT sWirdeba da, sxvaTa Soris, TurqeTsac.

TurqeTi keTilmezoblur da partniorul

politikas atarebs saqarTvelos mimarT da

am gzas ar gadauxvevs.

aqve mokled da konkretulad vityvi

baTumis meCeTis Sesaxeb: jerjerobiT

meCeTs ar vxedav!

icodeT, RmerTi erTia da masTan savali

gza mravali! ufali erTia, magram mas mravali

saxeliT moixsenieben!

TurqeTis politika arasdros daazianebs

saqarTvelos, vinc ar unda movides mis saTaveSi.

imitom, rom TurqeTi qarTul fesvze

dgas, anu qarTuli geni Zalze farTodaa iq

fexgadgmuli. saukuneebis win, rodesac saqarTvelos

ebrZodnen Turqebi, sparsebi Tu sxvani,

maSinac ki qarTvelebs isini bolomde ar wiravdnen

da swored aman gadaarCina Cveni qveyana.

axla magondeba adolf hitleris sityvebic,

romelsac saqarTvelos Sesaxeb hqonda

`mwvane saqaRalde~. iq hitleri werda,

qarTvelebi nametani Wkviani xalxia, romelic

unda gavamravloTo. es fraza mas Cawerili

aqvs, Tu ar vcdebi,

`main kampfSic~.

saerTod, xalxs misce didi ufleba politikaSi

Carevisa, dauSvebelia! es SesaZlebelia mxolod

garkveuli doziT, raTa zRvari ar dairRves.

igi ambobda, rom

qarTvelebs ise ar

unda movepyraT,

rogorc rusebs,

ebraelebs da sxvaT,

maT gansakuTrebulad

unda moveqceTo.

da mainc, yvelaferi

es modis

kosmosidan: ìbrZoleT,

magram saqarTvelosa

da qarTv-elebis

amowyvetas gikrZalavT!

Tu maT SeexebiT,

ar gapatiebT!~

iebiT gadaipenta

Cemi saqarTvelos

mTa-bari! aseTi

lamazi saxe eqneba

qarTul politikas

axlo momavalSi.

iebi

didi xnis win viwinaswarmetyvele.

iebi iqneba saqar-

Tvelos winsvlisa

da siZlieris

niSani. rom ityvian,

kargad dagvebedeba!

saqarTveloSi yvelaferi saxes icvlis _

dawyebuli qarTuli politikidan. vxedav, kanoni

kanonobs! amas xazgasmiT aRvniSnav, vinaidan

yvela da yvelaferi Tavis adgils unda

daubrundes da yvelam unda akeTos is saqme,

rac mas esmis. vimeoreb: aucileblad saWiroa

mTavrobis cvla! rac moxdeba kidec! ra Tqma

unda, es Zalian did rols TamaSobs da Zalian

karg cvlilebebs moutans qveyanasa da xalxs.

vinc dRes opoziciaSia, isinic icvlebian!

modian axalgazrdebi, romlebic, ase

vTqvaT, gadaaxaliseben da gamoafxizlben

qveyanas. arc ise advili

iqneba maTTan brZola. saqarTvelo

iwmindeba Sadimanebisgan, romelTac

_ Zvelebmac da axlebmac _ Tavi

isev wamoyves.

sxvaTa Soris, axali romis papi iqneba

ufro energiuli, axalgazrduli energiiT

momarTuli. benediqt XVI absoluturad swori

gadawyvetileba miiRo, rom gadadga. mas

ukve aRaranairi ceremoniebis Tavi aRar hqonda.

adamiani moxucda, misi goneba da sxeuli

gamoeTiSa, ase vTqvaT, am yofas. rac Seexeba

mexs, romelic misi gadadgomisas daeca vatikanSi

taZars, araviTari mniSvneloba ar

eniWeba xedvaSi.

minda isev vTqva: araviTari apokalifsi ar

moxdeba! adamianebi am Temas Tavidan daatrialeben,

raRaceebs amoqeqaven, magram me am

yoveliveze meRimeba. saqme isaa, rom is civilizaciebi,

romlebic gadaSendnen, zustad amgvari

adamianebiT iyo `dakompleqtebuli~ da

kosmosma ar gaaxara isini, anu moaSora dedamiwas.

dedamiwa yovelTvis iyo, aris da iarsebebs!!!

am Worebis qarbuqSi, samwuxarod, bevri adamiani

eqceva da cxovrebas irTulebs. saRad

moazrovne adamians ki aseTi zRaprebis garCeva

SeuZlia, Tuki kargad Caukvirdeba. maias kalendrisa

ar iyos, romelic ar gamarTlda

Turme imitom, rom sxva, meore kalendaric,

anu gagrZeleba arsebobs. mokled, raRaciT

xom unda gaerTon adamianebi?! mohyavT uamravi

versia, razec patara bavSvsac gaecineba.

hoda, minda vamcno maT, vinc ase

elodeba meored mosvlas: kosmosi

piradad maT, sakuTar bedSi mouwyobs

meored mosvlas, xolo dedamiwas

araviTari Sexeba ar elodeba!

yvelafer amaze kidev bevri ram SeiZleba

iTqvas, magram vxedav, rom es Tema momavalSi

gacvdeba. ase advilad xalxs veRar moatyueben.

xalxs aRar sjera arafrisa da aravisi.

qarTul eklesias Zalian gauWirdeba mrevlis

kuTxiT! xalxs, vxedav, veravin moatyuebs!!!

(GAGgagrZeleba iqneba)

redaqtoris sveti

am cota xnis win feisbuqiT Setyobineba

miviRe. ucnobi axalgazrda mekiTxeboda, ramdenad

kargad vicnobdi lela kakulias. vupasuxe,

rom Zalian, Zalian kargad vicnob da rom

maqvs bedniereba, misi gazeTis mTavari redaqtori

viyo. maSin ymawvilma ramdenime wuTi

gamomTxova qalbaton lelasTan dakavSirebuli

istoriis mosayolad, razec, raRa Tqma unda,

Tanxmoba ganvucxade. ai, ra miambo man:

`didi xnis, daaxloebiT 25 wlis win,

qalbatonma lelam dedaCems uTxra: gaTxovdebi,

Seni momavali meuRle, romelic axla

Sorsaa, profesiiT eqimia. geyoleba biWi... aq

qalbatoni lela raRacnairad moRuSula da

uTqvams, bavSvs, daaxloebiT erTi wlisas,

sasikvdilo safrTxe daemuqreba, magram nu

geSinia, Zlier varskvlavze ibadeba, Tanac,

RvTismSobeli gansakuTrebulad mfarvelobs

da gadarCebao. dedaCems, romelic im periodSi

ukve gaxldaT gaTxovili, Zlier gahkvirvebia

misi sityvebi, magram...

magram raRac periodis Semdeg is gaeyara

pirvel qmars da colad gahyva Cems

momaval mamas, romelic eqimi gaxldaT da

`Sors~, monRoleTSi muSaobda. mere gavCndi

me _ biWi, rogorc qalbatonma lelam

iwinaswarmetyvela, xolo daaxloebiT erTi

wlisam saSineli travma miviRe Tavis areSi.

travma imdenad mZime yofila, rom praqtikulad

mkvdari gadavuyvanivarT saavadmyofoSi.

ar vsunTqavdi, Turme.

bevri rom ar gavagrZelo, eqimebi mxolod

da mxolod imis gamo daTanxmdnen

operacias, rom mere maT mimarT raime

tipis pretenzia ar gaCeniliyo, Torem usulo

vyofilvar.

gamikeTes operacia Tavze, trepanaciis

gziT _ Tavis qala amxades. eqimebma operacia

daamTavres, maTi azriT uSedegod da...

ucbad CamisunTqavs, gavcocxlebulvar!!!

Tvalebs aravin ujerebda, Turme. dResac

ki, vinc im eqimebidan cocxalia, verafriT

xsnis am saswauls, me da dedam ki viciT,

rac moxda maSin: winaswarmetyvelebam gadamarCina,

meti araferi!

sxvaTa Soris, dedam miTxra, ise zustad

amisrulda yvelaferi manamde, rom

miuxedavad Zalian mZime mdgomareobisa, mainc

mejera, rom gadarCebodi, rom qalbatoni

lelas sityvebi aucileblad axdebodao~.

amis Semdeg ymawvils davpirdi, rom mis

Sesaxeb aucileblad vuambobdi qalbaton lelas

da Tu rames metyoda, kidec vacnobebdi.

marTlac, oriod dReSi vewvie qalbaton

lelas. vuTxari, Tqveni nawinaswarmetyvelebi

biWi Semexmiana-meTqi da feisbuqze atvirTuli

misi fotoc vanaxe. winaswarmetyveli

SviliviT miefera biWs da ucbad miTxra:

Cemi nawinaswarmetyvelebi bavSvebi Zalian bevrni

arian. yovel maTgans dabadebidan fexdafex

dahyveba Cemi dacviTi energia da umZimes

situaciebSi gansacdelisgan ifaravso.

Sin misulma saswrafod `movaxsene~ Cems

axal nacnobs winaswarmetyvelis sityvebi,

raze pasuxadac, yovelgvari axsna-ganmartebisa

da komentaris gareSe, ai es miviRe:

raRa Tqma unda, myis mivxvdi, rasac

niSnavda es foto-gzavnili, magram mainc

CavekiTxe, Sen ijeqi saWesTan-meTqi? kio,

mipasuxa. òRond ise gadmovedi mag gadasagdebi

manqanidan (marTla gadavagde, kapikebSi

Cavabare nawil-nawil), nakawri ar mqonda.

is ki ara, gverdiT megobari gogona

mejda da isic sruliad uvnebeli gadarCa,

Torem ra unda meqna, misi mSoblebisTvis

ra pasuxi unda mimeca, an amxela satanjveli

rogor unda metarebina mTeli cxovreba?

ai, mag tvirTisganac ki mixsna

qalbatoni lelas energiam~. _ usazRvro

madlobebis fonze meubneboda biWi.

erTi sityviT, Cemo Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo,

miuxedavad imisa, rom es pirveli

SemTxveva ar aris (albaT, ufro memilionea),

roca xilulad vrwmundebi qalbatoni

lelas Zalasa da usazRvro SesaZleblobebSi,

rac sakuTar Tavzec araerTxel gamomicdia,

mainc gadavwyvite misi TqvenTvis

gacnoba. xolo Cems axal nacnobsa da

umcros megobars uzarmazar warmatebebs,

didxans sicocxlesa da RvTismSoblis mudmiv

mfarvelobas vusurveb!!!

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arqivi

rac eqoskopiam ver

dainaxa...

eka lomiZe

` ...vxedav kavkasionis qedze amxedrebul meomrebs...

afxazeTis svaneTi. farebisa da xmlebis

trialiT modian... winasaomari simRera mesmis,

dadebiTi energiebi ikvreba saqarTvelos Tavze.

sazRvrebi unda Seikras... ruseTi did, gamousworebel

Secdomas dauSvebs afxazeTis sakiTxSi,

waageben, airevian. kavkasionidan qarTveli meomrebi

eSvebian simReriT. gugunebs kavkasioni...~

am fragmentuli monologiT gangeb daviwye

werili. axla saqarTvelos yvelaze didi

tkivili afxazeTia da am Temaze naTqvam

TiToeul damaimedebel, gamarjvebis momtan

sityvas, albaT, udidesi mniSvneloba aqvs CvenTvis.

am winaswarmetyvelebis avtori, qalbatoni

lela kakulia, gamudmebiT afxazeTis problemaze

mesaubreba. `saqarTvelo nel-nela

iwmindeba. veraviTari Zala ver gadaTelavs.

iciT, rogor dacvas vxedav? cxra angelozi

dgas... vai, vinc miekareba maT! gana aseTi

wredis garRveva ZaluZs raime Zalebs?

Tqveni TvaliT naxavT: mova prezidenti,

visac me pirobiTad giorgi brwyinvale davarqvi.

mis vinaobas jer ver gavamxel.

roca saqarTveloSi nuSi ayvavdeba, TbilisSi

Camova axalgazrda qarTveli ucxoeTidan.

is Seqmnis mecnierTa partias, romelic

mxardaWeras moipovebs rogorc saqarTvelo-

25 aprilis miwisZvram mosaxleoba

panikaSi Caagdo. yvelas ainteresebs,

ra iqneb xval. jer kidev ori

kviriswinandeli miwisZvriT

Sokirebuli mosaxleoba àliaSi~

rekavda da cnobil winaswarmetyvel

lela kakuliasTan dakavSirebas da

am sakiTxze komentars sTxovda.

bunebis bolo ganrisxebas àliaSAi~

uamravi zari mohyva.

gTavazobT qalbaton lela kakulias

1996 wlis 5 ianvriT daTariRebul

winaswarmetyvelebas, rac, vfiqrobT,

Zalian sainteresoa da mosaxleobas

panikis safuZvels ar aZlevs.

`saqarTveloSi vxedav did miwisZvras. vxedav,

TiTqos mTawmindidan anZa vardeba. Zlieri

biZgebi iqneba. amas amwuTas vxedav. didi bi-

Zgebi iqneba TbilisSic da Tbiliss gareTac,

magram es biZgebi Tbiliss arafers avnebs.

did wyaldidobebs vxedav aWaraSi, afxazeT-

Si _ iseTs, rogoric arasdros yofila.

Tbilisis garSemo oTx anTebul jvars vxedav.

es Tbilisis dacviTi saxea da saerTod,

Tbilisis qveS vxedav iseT kldovan qanebs,

rom ngreva ar iqneba. vxedav, rom Tbiliss

dangreva ar aweria. me am biZgebs vuwodeb

patara biZgebs. did ngrevas ar vxedav~.

aqve gTavazobT meore winaswarmetyvelebas,

romelic imave wlis 17 martiT aris daTariRebuli

da msoflio globalur politikas

exeba. àlia~ am winaswarmetyvelebas imitom

aqveynebs, rom qalbatonma lelam es yvelaferi

eqvsi wlis win ixila da dRes,

arqivi arqivi

Si, ise ucxoeTSi. mafiozebs ar awyobT

aseTi prezidenti da mas esvrian, magram am

Savgvreman axalgazrdas bediweraze sikvdili

ar aweria. igi gaxdeba prezidenti...~

_ qalbatono lela, Tqveni winaswarmetyvelebebi

ra periodSi sruldeba?

_ kosmosur velSi dro ar arsebobs. ra

mniSvneloba aqvs, ra droSi moxdeba? is,

rac dawerilia, unda aRsruldes! saqarTvelos

sabolood gaerTianeba aweria. saqarTvelo

am rTuli situaciidan Tavs daixsnis.

_ ruseTi rogor aitans da dauSvebs

saqarTvelos warmatebebs?

_ ruseTs gansacdeli elis. cecxli in-

Teba daRestanSi. mTeli kavkasia aRdgeba

ruseTis winaaRmdeg! saqarTvelo ar gawiravs

ruseTs... ruseTi saqarTvelosTan mimarTeba-

Si poziciebs 100 procentiT Seicvlis.

amerikelebsa da muslimebs Sorisac omi

iqneba. muslimebi gverds auvlian saqarTvelos.

ruseTis prezidents, putins terors

mouwyoben. vxedav mis sisxlian maisurs, saavadmyofoSi

miaqaneben. putins erT-erTi rusuli

mafiozuri dajgufeba daupirispirdeba.

_ ruseTsac axali prezidenti eyoleba?

_ diax...

qalbatoni lelas CanawerebSi pirdapir

saxelebiTa da gvarebiT aris miTiTebuli,

romel politikoss Tu gavlenian pirs ra

elis momavalSi. naTelmxilvels ramdenime wlis

win dauweria axlandeli parlamentis mdgomareobis

Sesaxeb: `moqalaqeTa kavSiri~ iSleba,

vxedav daSlil àRorZinebasac...~

lela kakulia Tbiliselebs

simSvidisken mouwodebs

TbilisSi momxdari da msoflio wesrigis

rRveva ara marto droSi emTxveva, aramed

zustad ise xdeba, rogorc man iwinaswarmetyvela.

`msoflio politikur xelisuflebas Zalian

damZimebuls vxedav. aRmosavleTis qveynebi nelnela

pirvel adgils ikaveben. amerikas dabneuls

vxedav, veRar aregulirebs aRmosavleTs,

CineTs, azias, irans, avRaneTsa da ase Semdeg.

uTanxmoeba mosdis koreasTan, magram maleve

Caaqroben sirTuleebs. situacia rTuldeba

iaponiasTanac. saboloo jamSi mainc amerika

imarjvebs, ajobebs aRmosavleTs, magram Tavis

sisustes amerika mainc gamoamJRavnebs.

amerikis prezidenti Zalian rTuli pirovnebaa,

Segnebulad ar mogvyavs calkeul pirovnebebze

dawerili winaswarmetyvelebebi. `roca

Cemi qveynis momavals vxedav, roca politikaze

vfiqrob, vxedav im adamianebsac, vinc

dRes da momavalSi qveynis beds ganageben.

maT sasikeTo rCevebs vaZlev, rom ukeT mar-

Ton qveyana, magram isini mxolod pirad

bednierebaze fiqroben~.

cxadia, bevri ikiTxavs, vin aris Tavad

lela kakuliao. `mxevalo RvTisa lela, me

xSirad magondeba TqvenTan saubrebi. bevri

Tqveni winaswarTqmuli axda. ufals vTxov, ar

mogakloT madli da wyaloba. keTili survilebiT,

margveTis mitropoliti konstantine.

14.02.2000 w.~ _ ase mimarTavda naTelmxilvels

misi aw gardacvlili moZRvari.

qalbaton lelaze Tamar WoxoneliZesac

bevri hqonia saTqmeli: `lelasTan Cemi urTierToba

Cemi solo koncertidan daiwyo. ar

vicodi, rom is darbazSi iyo. arc vicnobdi.

Zalian vnerviulobdi da pirveli sami

simRera rogor vimRere, arc maxsovs. mere ki

ucbad davmSviddi. vTqvi kidec amis Sesaxeb

axloblebTan. imaT miTxres, lela kakulia

giyurebda da Tqva _ axla amas Cemi daxmareba

sWirdeba, ise Relavso. Cemken xelisguli

gamouSveria da karga xans yofila ase.

me ar vici, qristianuli sjulidan rogor

unda ganvixilo es. me vici, rom es qalbatoni

qristiania, radgan sikeTis mets arafers

ukeTebs adamianebs.

ori wlis win Cems meuRles saSineli avaria

mouxda _ manqanas Seejaxa. me iq ar viyavi.

telefoniT Sematyobines ambavi. sasowarkveTilma

mobilurs xeli davaWire da saswaulebrivad,

lela daiwera. davureke kiviliT, lela, miSvele,

viRupebi-meTqi. manac xmamaRla miyvira,

yvelafers vxedav, dawynardi da macadeo.

rogorc vicodi, mZimed daSavebuli erTi

gogo iyo, lelam ki miTxra, gogo kargad aris,

iq kacia, romelsac yurebidan sisxli sdiso.

roca SemTxvevis adgilze myof Cemianebs davukavSirdi,

zustad igive informacia momaxales.

Cemi dac, sofoc da disSvilic lelas

wyalobiT gadarCnen. fexmZimobis bolo Tve-

Si naxa lelam sofo. aiCema, bavSvi safrTxeSia,

Wiplari orjer aqvs Semoxveuli yelze,

saswrafod sakeisroa saWiroo...

mokled, eqoskopiam rac ver dainaxa, is

dainaxa lelam!~

didi nacionalistia. misi mosvla 1994 wels

viwinaswarmetyvele, roca vTqvi, rom amerikelebi

movidodnen saTaveSi. igi Zalian daupirispirdeba

muslimebs, Ria TamaSs daiwyeben.

es SeaSinebs aRmosavleTis qveynebs da atexen

yvirils, rom prezidenti muStiT elaparakeba

maT da ara politikiT. magram vxedav,

rom es swori poziciaa.

safrangeTic ar CamorCeba amerikas samxedro

xaziT. vxedav frangebis manevrirebebs. yvelagan

iaraRia. safrangeTis prezidentis moqmedebac

sworia, imitom, rom erT momentSi

evropaSi muslimebi momZlavrebian da iwyeben

daufarav moqmedebebs. magram muslimebs safrangeTi

nokautSi Caagdebs.

modis safrangeTis axali prezidenti. igi

nacionalistia. zangebsa da yviTelkanianebs daereva

da daiwyebs safrangeTis dasufTavebas. sworic

aris. iqneba dapirispirebebi, magram amaze arcerTi

organizacia ar aimaRlebs xmas. dedamiwaze

erTi periodi fexs moikidebs nacizmi...~

`ra unda vTqva imaze meti, rac wlebis

win davwere? me dros ar vxedav, magram

rasac vambob, is aucileblad ise axdeba,

rogorc vambob~ _ acxadebs qalbatoni lela

da Tbiliselebs simSvidisken mouwodebs _

axla araferi ise ar gvWirdeba, rogorc

simSvideo. `ngrevas ver vxedav. vxedav mxolod

biZgebs. maqvs ryevis usiamovno SegrZneba

da ara didi ngrevis SiSi. ase rom,

panikas nu miecemiT. saqarTvelos dangreva

ar uweria!~ _ acxadebs lela kakulia.

citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi * citatebi

sargeblobs ra politikuri

elitis upasuxismgeblo

mxardaWeriTa da mediis

mesveurTa arakritikuli

ganwyobiT, vaSingtoni

moskovTan axali civi omis

ufskrulSi eSveba. ormxrivi

urTierTobebi isedac gafu-

Webulia raketsawinaaRmdego

Tavdacvis, axlo aRmosavleTisa

da ruseTis Sidapolitikis

gamo. axla ki am urTierTobas

kidev metad wamlavs ori konfliqti. situacia

warsulis civ oms hgavs, romelic

xorcieldeboda principiT: `Tvali Tvalis

wil, kbili kbilis wil~.

stiven koeni, eqsperti, aSS.

xandaxan mgonia, sxva

qveyanaSi amirCies parlamentSi,

mere is parlamenti

sul sxva sivrce-

Si gadaitanes da gasuli

8 weli saerTod

ar momxdara. ki batono,

namdvilad miuRebelia

fraza: Tu `nacionalebi~

ase iqceodnen, modi,

Cvenc ase moviqceTo, magram

`nacionalebi~ dialeqtikis

kanonebs saerTod uaryofdnen

da ambobdnen, mizezebze ki ara, marto

Sedegebze gvelaparakeTo.

gedevan fofxaZe,

`versia~.

5

1998 weli, 9 ivnisi, dRis 2 saaTi.

Cveni winaswarmetyvelebebi mTel msoflios

moivlis da gaaocebs. yvelaferi

daiwyeba amerikidan, me ki mindoda, rom

dawyebuliyo saqarTvelodan.

2009 weli, 2 dekemberi, Tbilisi.

rasac axla vambob, aris winaswarmetyveleba

wignTan dakavSirebiT. modis dro, roca

msoflios Zalian bevri kiTxva eqneba da

maT mxolod Cemi wigni _ qarTveli

winaswarmetyveli lela kakulia upasuxebs.

daimaxsovreT: mxolod Cven SegviZlia pasuxi

gavceT yvelas yvelaferze.

2010 weli, 10 marti, Tbilisi.

vici, rom wigni, romelsac gamovcemT,

metad saintereso iqneba ara mxolod

saqarTvelosTvis, aramed mTeli msofliosTvis

da yvela aRiarebs, rom Cems

wigns didi mniSvneloba aqvs! aq Tavmoyrilia

yvela mniSvnelovani winaswarmetyveleba...

lela kakulia

esec ase! 1998 wels warmoTqmuli

winaswarmetyveleba 2012 wlis miwuruls `gaaqtiurda~,

xolo 2013 wlis ianvarSi xorci

Seisxa.

manamde Cven ramdenjerme vacnobeT mkiTxvels,

rom lela kakulias wignis bolo

gamocema àxali sityva~ inglisurad iTargmneboda.

Tumca, maSin, roca misi Targmna

daiwyo, amerikel gamomcemlebs warmodgenac

ar hqondaT mis Sesaxeb. anu, qalbatonma

lelam inglisuri versiis gamzadeba rom

dagvavala, `traford fabliqeiSeni~ horizontzec

ar Canda. magram winaswarmetyveli

gvaCqarebda, modunebis saSualebas ar gva-

Zlevda da xSirad gvimeorebda, amerikelebi

male dainteresdebian da inglisuri versia

mzad unda mqondeso.

mokled, popularul enaze rom vTqvaT, ise

agixdeT yvelaferi kargi!!! àxali sityva~ sul

axali naTargmni iyo, roca `trafordi~ dagvikavSirda

da mis gamocemaze ufleba moiTxova.

aqve xazgasmiT unda aRiniSnos, rom wignis

amerikaSi gamocemaze erTi TeTric ar

daxarjula qarTuli fulidan. yvelaferi

amerikuli fuliT gakeTda. is ki ara,

`trafordma~, romelic gulisyuriT gaecno

winaswarmetyvelebebs, Canawerebi cocxal, mfeTqav

informaciad Seafasa da Semdegi nawilis

gamocemazec gamoiTxova lela kakuliasgan

eqskluzivi. gvinda gacnoboT, rom mesame

nawilis Targmna ukve dawyebulia da masac

male ixilavs msoflio sazogadoeba.

maT, visac wignis inglisuri versiis SeZena

surT, SeuZliaT SeukveTon is saitebze:

1. http://bookstore.trafford.com/Products/SKU-

000618690/New-Word-Volume-2.aspx

2. http://www.amazon.com/New-Word-Take-Predict-

O r a t e / d p / 1 4 6 6 9 6 9 1 5 6 /

ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359535645&sr=1-

1&keywords=LELA+KAKULIA

3. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/new-word-volume-

2-lela-kakulia/1114236262?ean=9781466969155

dabolos, informaciisaTvis wignis saTauris

Sesaxeb: qalbatoni lelas winaswarmetyvelebebs

axali sityva aw gansvenebulma, akademikosma

avalo cirekiZem uwoda Tavis sagaze-

rac rac ukve

ukve

To publikaciaSi. rodesac 2010 wels wignis

meore gamocema dasabeWdad gamzadda da saqme

mis dasaTaurebaze midga, swored maSin gaaxsenda

redaqcias akademikosiseuli es Sefaseba.

da radgan miviCnieT, rom igi araCveulebrivad

miesadageboda lela kakulias

winaswarmetyvelebaTa arss, gamoviyeneT kidec.

2009 weli, 2 ivnisi, Tbilisi.

([rusebs]) ukve gadakeTebulic aqvT rusuli

istoria. ubralod, vxedav, Sesaferis

dros arCevdnen, raTa igi msoflioSi

gaexmovanebinaT. diax, naxavT, rogori gaocebulebi

darCebiT! evropasac gadaswvdebian

mere ise, rom arc SercxvebaT. ai aq

ki, namdvili istoriis damaxinjebis gamo,

mTeli evropa (saqarTvelos gaaswreben,

mgoni) sasamarTloSi uCivis ruseTis saxelmwifos.

ruseTs arc es Seawuxebs. àsea

da morCa!~ _ ismis brZaneba kremlidan!

lela kakulia

amaswinaT rusul telearx `rentivize~ satirul-iumoristuli

gadacema `tanci na grabliax~

gavida, romelsac cnobili satirikosi

mixail zadornovi uZRveboda. vinaidan me

am Janris Tayvanismcemeli var, savarZelSi

movkalaTdi da gemovnebiani iumoris mosasmenad

movemzade. Tavidan TiTqos yvelaferi

asec iyo: zadornovi xumrobda, darbazi

gemrielad icinoda da mec kargad vxalisobdi.

moulodnelad, satirikosma warmoTqva

Semdegi fraza: àm koncertis gamarTva imisTvis

mWirdeboda, rom fuli minda viSovo~.

darbazma gaicina, radgan es morig xumrobad

miuTvala zadornovs, magram man ucbad

sruliad seriozulad daiwyo saubari imaze,

Tu raSi apirebda koncertebidan miRebuli

Tanxis gamoyenebas. gairkva, rom zadornovs

gadawyvetili hqonia dokumenturi filmis

Seqmna ruseTis istoriaze, slavianTa warmoSobaze,

romelic ùtyuar da sarwmuno~

faqtebze iqneboda dafuZnebuli. es ki xels

Seuwyobda warsulSi `germanelebis mier specialurad

damaxinjebuli rusuli istoriis~

gasworebas!!! gairkva isic, rom zadornovs,

socialuri qselebis meSveobiT, ukve

mogrovebuli hqonda daaxloebiT 3 milioni

rubli, romelic ukve daexarja kidec evropis

qveynebSi warmoebul gadaRebebSi.

amis Semdeg man lamis dawvrilebiT gaacno

mayurebels filmis Sinaarsi da Tavis mier

aRmoCenili ìstoriuli faqtebi~. darbazi

sulganabuli usmenda. mec gansakuTrebuli

gulisyuriT mivugde yuri, vinaidan myis is

winaswarmetyveleba gamaxsenda, romelic zemoT

SemogTavazeT: rusebi istoriis gadakeTebas

daiwyeben da evropasac gadaswvdebiano.

Cven aqve gTavazobT xsenebuli gadacemis

links, raTa dainteresebulma miTxvelma sakuTari

TvaliT ixilos zadornovis gamosvla:http://gifakt.ru/archives/index/mixail-zadornov-tancy-na-grablyax-20-10-2012-ren-tv/,

da im intervius fragmentebsac

SemogTavazebT, romelic man gazeT

`kamsamolskaia pravdas~ misca. intervius sruli

versia SegiZliaT ixiloT misamarTze: http://

www.kp.ru/daily/26001.3/2927789/

mixail zadornovi:

rusuli istoria germanelebma gadaakeTes!

proeqts `riuriki. dakarguli sinamdvile~,

romelic verasdros amoigebs danaxarjebs,

zadornovma ori weli Sealia. gadaRebebi

ruseTSi, baltiispireTSi, germaniaSi, Sveciasa

da amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi.

arqeologTa banakebSi cxovreba. `klasikuri~

istorikosebis mxridan dacinvebi.

_ mixail nikolaeviC, raSi gWirdebaT

es yovelive?

_ es Cemi ocneba iyo. filmi gadaRebulia

saxalxo fuliT. mowodeba internetiT

gavavrcele da xalxma 3 milioni rubli

Seagrova. warmogidgeniaT, ramdeni adamiania

amiT dainteresebuli?! filmi gaTvlilia

imaTze, visac istoriuli sinamdvile ainteresebs.

erTni amboben, rom slavebi polaruli

varskvlavidan mofrindnen, meoreni maT warmoSobas

atlantebs ukavSirebs. me ki mkacrad

mecnierul gzas gTavazobT.

_ miuxedavad amisa, istorikosTa

nawili Tqven, rbilad rom vTqvaT, fantaziorad

migiCnevT.

_ aravisTan kamaTs ar vapireb. Cems istoriul

kvlevebSi me veyrdnobodi gaTxrebis

Sedegebs, etimologias, sityvaTa toponimikas,

qronikebs, miTebsa da legendebs. filmSi moyvanilia

genetikur eqspertizaTa Sedegebi. ar

gjeraT Cemi? magram arc lomonosovisa gjeraT,

romelic werda, rom ruseTisa da slavTa

istoria bevrad Rrmaa, vidre is, romelic im

droisTvis oficialurad iyo miRebuli da

romelsac axla skolebSi aswavlian?

filmSi me Sevecade, momeTxro simarTle

riurikze, romelic ruseTis saxelmwifos

saTaveebTan idga. magram me ufro metad

slavuri istoriis is plasti mainteresebs,

romelic Cven daviwyebuli gvaqvs. Cven

STagvagones, rom utvino slavebma mTavrad

gonieri ucxomiweli riuriki moiwvies da

yvelaferi ucbad kargad moewyo. da Cvenc

xalisiT davijereT es sisulele...

uZveles droSi riuriki, igive rereki

mamakacis Zalze gavrcelebuli saxeli iyo.

dasavleT slav mTavrebs hqondaT tradicia,

ufrosi vaJisTvis daerqmiaT es saxeli. `riuriki~

niSnavs miminos. tomic ki arsebobda,

romelic Tavs rerikebs uwodebda. Cven maT

vicnobT rogorc obodritebs _ bodriCebs.

maT gerbze gamosaxuli iyo mimino. Semdeg

es mimino samkbilad gadaiqca, romelic dRes

ukrainis gerbs amSvenebs. unda iTqvas, rom

igi qalaq ladogis gerbzec iyo _ axla

es Zveli ladogaa, leningradis olqSi, sadac

riuriki gamTavrda.

_ sxvebi mas variagad moixsenieben...

_ magram variagebi iyvnen kidec slavebi.

sityva `variagi~ mxolod rusul enaSi gvxvdeba,

mas sxva evropelebi ar iyenebdnen.

Zveli romaeli istorikosi tacitusi Cvens

eramde II saukuneSi werda, rom baltiis

zRvis sanapiroze mdebareobda qveyana varangia,

saidanac marils ezidebodnen. Sua saukuneebis

rukebze is aRniSnuli iyo rogorc

vagria _ baltiis zRvis samxreT sanapirosa

da dRevandeli germaniisa da daniis SesayarTan.

vin arian variagebi? vin da marilis

mxarSvelebi (am mosazrebis dasamtkiceblad

zadornovi iyenebs Semdeg sqemas: `we, kto

truZiatsa, truZiagi, kto rabotaet _

rabawiagi, a variagi eta we, kto varit

sol~. _ red.). marili im drois navTobi

iyo. slavebi _ variagebi _ mariliT

romTanac ki vaWrobdnen. ai isini gaxldnen

Cveni riurikis winaprebi.

warsulSi slavTa tomebi iutlandiis naxevarkunZulsa

(axlandeli dania. _ red.) da

axlandeli germaniis (reinamde) teritoriebze

cxovrobdnen. obodritebi _ bodriCebi

_ oderze saxlobdnen da maTi dedaqalaqi

iyo qalaqi-porti rarogi, igive staregradi.

is axlac arsebobs da hqvia... reriki.

axla ukve gagermanulebuli rarogis _

rerikis _ garSemo mdebareobs dabebi saxelwodebebiT:

pepelovi, rogovi, matCevi, bukovi,

niu-bukovi. rerikis ubeSi mdebare kunZuls

hqvia vustrovi. mokled, yvelgan slavebis

nakvalevia! sxvaTa Soris, am provincias vareni

ewodeba. ai, esec Tqveni varangia...

slavi bodriCebis bolo mTavari godslavi

daqorwinebuli gaxldaT umilaze _

ladogis tbaze mcxovrebi slavebis erTerTi

tomis mmarTvelis qaliSvilze. maT

sami vaJi hyavdaT. ufross riuriki erqva.

roca germanebma rarogi daipyres da godslavi

sikvdiliT dasajes, riuriki da misi

Zmebi _ truvori da sineusi _ TavianTi

razmis narCenebTan erTad, baltiis kunZul

riugenze mekobreobas Seudgnen. male riurikma

mTels evropaSi daigdo saxeli. misi

gemebi espaneTis, britaneTisa da safrangeTis

sanapiroebsac stumrobdnen.

amasobaSi riurikis papa gostomisli umemkvidreod

darCa, vinaidan misi oTxive vaJi xazarebTan

da normanebTan brZolas Seewira. amitom

mas gaaxsenda Tavisi gzaabneuli SviliSvili

riuriki, romelic im momentisTvis siciliaze

gasamgzavreblad emzadeboda. riurikma

uari Tqva siciliis eqspediciaze da papis

6

moxda

moxda

Txovnas daemorCila _ ladogaze gaemgzavra.

man iq Tan waiyvana gawvrTnili jari, romel-

Sic sxvebTan erTad vikingebic ibrZodnen.

brwyinvale strategi riuriki ladogaze dar-

Ca, xolo Zmebi izborsksa da beloozeroSi

gaamgzavra, raTa es miwebi norman-xazarebisgan

daecvaT. am samkuTxedis centrSi ki daaarsa

novgorodi. ai, ase warmoiSva dasavleT da

aRmosavleT slavTa didi gaerTianeba...

Teoria riurikis normanuli warmoSobis

Sesaxeb, ekaterine didis mmarTvelobisas, peterburgis

mecnierebaTa akademiis erT-erTma

pirvelma wevrma, germanelma gotlib zigfrid

baierma wamoayena. misi Teoriis Tanaxmad,

ruseTSi Camosulma erTma muWa normanebma

ramdenime weliwadSi `bneli qveyana~

mZlavr `derJavad~ aqcies. SegaxsenebT, rom

ekaterine didi Tavad gaxldaT germaneli,

iseve, rogorc yvela Semdgomi romanovi.

samwuxarod, ruseTis mmarTvel elitaSi popularuli

gaxldaT idea, rom slavebi kargi

da Wkviani xalxi iyo, magram maTi organizeba

mxolod germanelebs SeeZloT. ra Tqma

unda, es politika iyo...

mixail lomonosovi cdilobda germanelebTan

brZolas _ mas miaCnda, rom riuriki slavi

gaxldaT...

lavrentievis nusxaSi (ramdenime qronikis

krebuli, romlebsac sxvadasxva wlebSi sxvadasxva

monazoni werda. _ red.), sxvaTa

Soris, aris fraza, rom variagi-rusi da

slavi xalxebi erT enaze laparakobdnen!

filmSi moTxrobilia agreTve qronikaTa

krebulze, romlebic Sua saukuneebis italiaSi

Seiqmna, magram maT Sesaxeb axlaRa

gaxda cnobili. adre isini dumdnen. vfiqrob,

Segnebulad...

axla Cveni jgufi SveciaSi miemgzavreba

Sved istorikosebTan sasaubrod. amis Semdeg

germaniaSi wavalT kunZul ruian-buian-riugenze,

agreTve yofil slavur qalaqebSi: meklenburg-velikgradSi,

oldenburg-stargradsa da

zverin-SverinSi. saintereso samuSao gvelis,

rac vfiqrob, momaval Taobas gamoadgeba...

ai, Zalze mokled aseTia satirokos zadornovis

`Rrmad mecnieruli~ istoriuli kvlevebi.

ufro vrclad imis Taobaze, kidev

sad aRmoaCina `saxalxo fuliT~ msoflios

sxvadasxva qveyanaSi mogzaurma zadornovma

slavTa nakvalevi, anu evropis kidev romel

kuTxeSi iyvnen isini ganfenilni istoriulad

da rogor gardaiqmna SemdegSi slavuri

qalaqebi da kunZulebi germanulad Tu sxvad,

amaze Tavad filmi mogviTxrobs, romelic

savaraudod seqtemberSi gava `rentivis~ eTeriT.

manamde ki, kargi iqneba, im linkiT

isargebloT, romelic zemoT SemogTavazeT

da Tavad naxoT, rogor ostaturad aqcevs

zecaSi aWrili miminos gamosaxulebas zadornovi

samkbilad, reriks rarogad, meklenburgs

velikgradad da ase Semdeg. merwmuneT, kargad

gaerTobiT.

dabolos: am publikacias redaqciam saku-

Tari nebiT, absoluturad gamiznulad Seur-

Cia zadornovis es araseriozuli foto.

saqme isaa, rom misi `samecniero naSromi~

Cven swored aseT araseriozul garTobad

miviCnieT.

2008 weli, 9 aprili.

saintereso faqts vxedav: momavalSi,

Sig iranis gulSi, moxdeba atomuri afeTqeba

_ susti, araZlieri, RmerTis wyalobiT,

vinaidan yovelive ar iqneba kargad

gaazrebul-gakeTebuli, organizebuli da

rasac sxvisTvis moindomeben, RmerTi

sakuTar saxlSi aufeTqebs. es niSania

uflisgan.

lela kakulia

mimdinare wlis 26 ianvars msoflio mediis

yuradReba srulad gadaerTo iranSi

fordous miwisqveSa samxedro qarxanaSi

momxdar mZlavr afeTqebaze.

saubaria im qarxanaze, sadac mimdinareobda

birTvuli iaraRisTvis saWiro uranis

gamdidrebis procesi. obieqti qveynis dedaqalaqidan,

Teiranidan ormociode kilometrSi,

miwis qveS 90 metris siRrmezea ganTavsebuli,

raTa igi SesaZlo Tavdasxmisgan daculi

iyos. garesamyarosTan igi mxolod ori amwe

mowyobilobiT iyo dakavSirebuli, romlebic

afeTqebis Semdeg mTlianad ganadgurebula.

fordous reaqtori didi xnis manZilze

gasaidumloebuli iyo. swored igia TeiranisTvis

uranis gamdidrebis mTavari obieqti,

romelsac, rogorc israeli, aSS da

dasavleTis sxva saxelmwifoebi amtkiceben, es

saxelmwifo atomuri iaraRis dasamzadeblad

iyenebs. raRa Tqma unda, Teirani yvela am

braldebas uaryofs da acxadebs, rom gamdidrebuli

urani mas mxolod mSvidobiani

atomuri energiis misaRebad sWirdeba.

marTalia, oficialuri Teirani afeTqebaze

ar saubrobs, magram msoflio sazogadoebas

mravlismetyvelad eniSna is faqti,

rom prezidentma ahmadinejadma saswrafo

TaTbiri gamarTa iranis dazvervisa da birTvuli

programis xelmZRvanelebTan. aseve

gonivruli eWvi dabada imanac, rom iranis

xelisuflebam obieqtis adgilmdebareobidan

24 kilometriani zona daxurul samxedro

zonad gamoacxada.

erT-erTma pirvelma am afeTqebis Sesaxeb

amerikulma gamocema `vi-en-dim~ auwya sazogadoebas.

Tavis publikaciaSi `TeTri saxli

sityvasac ver ambobs iranis afeTqeb-

reza

kahlili

is Sesaxeb~, igi werda:

ìranis revoluciuri gvardiis yofili

agentis centraluri dazvervis saagentoSi,

reza kahlilis eqskluziuri reportaJi, rom

TiTqos iranis mTavari birTvuli dawesebuleba

afeTqebis Sedegad ganadgurda, israelis

dazvervis oficialurma pirebmac

daudastures jer `Taims of londons~, xolo

Semdeg àustraliansac~ igive gaumeores

Telavivurma wyaroebma. gaerTianebul samefoSi

arsebuli organizacia `mising fiis~

ki citirebs arabuli da iranuli kvlevebis

centris warmomadgenlis, ali reza nurizades

da asaxelebs detalebs.

`doiCe velesa~ da àmerikis xmis~ komentatorma

nurizadem, romelsac kontaqtebis farTo

qseli aqvs gabmuli iranSi, ganacxada, rom

afeTqebam gamoiwvia SedarebiT mcire dazianeba

uSualod uranis gasamdidrebel dawesebulebaSi,

magram afeTqebis gamo mainc gadaiketa

fordous misasvlelebi, sadac 200-ze

meti TanamSromeli rCeboda Caketili.

aRsaniSnavia, rom TeTeri saxli amas ar

adasturebs da acxadebs: `Cven ar gvaqvs

informacia am reportaJis dasadastureblad

da Cven arc gvjera, rom es reportaJi

sandoa~. es pozicia TeTrma saxlma presmdivan

jei qarnis piriT gaaxmovana brifingze.

`mising fiisis~ mier gamoqveynebul statiaSi

moyvanili faqtebi nurizadem daadastura

da ganacxada: àfeTqebis Semdeg qalaqi

qomi, sadac mdebareobs fordou, iranis

ali reza

nurizade

revoluciuri gvardiis Zalebma alyaSi moaqcies~.

man aseve ganacxada isic, rom iranis

reJimma daakava daaxloebiT Tormeti iraneli

Jurnalisti, romelTac ucxour mediasTan

TanamSromlobaSi edebodaT brali. es

maT akisreben pasuxismgeblobas fordous

incindentis Sesaxeb informaciis gaJonvis

gamo. Jurnalistebs CamoarTves kompiuterebi

da sxva teqnika.

àusTralianis~ wyaroebis cnobiT, israelis

mTavroba iZiebs cnobebs imis Taobaze,

rom afeTqebam didi struqturuli dazianeba

gamoiwvia, da rom 200 TanamSromeli

xafangSia gamomwyvdeuli. israels miaCnia,

rom iranelebs mimdebare teritoriaze mosaxleobis

evakuacia ar mouxdeniaT.

gaurkvevelia, ratom moiqca ase iranis

mTavroba. imitom, rom ar momxdara mavne

nivTierebebis gaJonva atmosferoSi, Tu imitom,

rom mosaxleobaSi panika ar gamoewviaT?

aRsaniSnavia, rom germanuli presac adasturebs

afeTqebas iranSi sakuTar wyaroebze

dayrdnobiT da ambobs, rom irani cdilobs,

ar gaaxmauris es ambavi.

2005 weli, 27 marti, Tbilisi.

qveyanaSi Zalian daiZabeba situaciebi.

samegrelos gubernators Tavis dacvianad

magrad scemen. televiziiT aCveneben

TavSexveulsa da xelmotexils.

2007 weli, 24 dekemberi.

am wuTas vxedav, rogor miaqaneben u-s

saavadmyofoSi! mas magrad cemen, TiTqos

veRar dadis!

lela kakulia

radgan es winaswarmetyvelebebi, praqtikulad,

ukve asrulda, Tavs valdebulad vTvliT,

visaubroT masze am rubrikaSi.

praqtikulad-meTqi, mogaxseneT. es imitom,

rom sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia, rom pirs,

romelzec aqaa saubari, samedicino dawesebulebisTvis

ar miukiTxavs.

es erTdroulad kargicaa da cudic. kargia

imitom, rom adamiani ar dasaxiCrda, magram

cudia imitom, rom qalbatoni lela tyuilad

arasdros arafers ambobs da gamodis, rom

incindentis gameorebaa mosalodneli.

imedia, mkiTxvelisTvisac gasagebia am piris

vinaoba. sagazeTo versiaSi 2007 wels Cven

erTgvarad davfareT gvari, mxolod misi

pirveli aso gavxseniT, Tumca qalbatoni lelas

xelnawerSi gvari sruladaa dasaxelebuli.

mokled, saubari Tbilisis amJamindel merze,

baton gigi ugulavazea. mkiTxveli amas kargad

mixvdeboda 2007 wlis CanawerSi naxsenebi

gvaris pirveli asos mixedviT, magram

SesaZloa dabneuliyo 2005 wlis

winaswarmetyvelebis wakiTxvisas. gangimartavT,

rom orive CanawerSi batoni ugulava ig-

ulisxmeba. saqme isaa, rom 2005 wlis mart-

Si, anu maSin, rodesac es winaswarmetyveleba

Caiwera, batoni gigi samegrelo-zemo svaneTis

gubernatori gaxldaT da qalbatonma lelamac

swored am statusiT moixsenia igi.

vfiqrob, absoluturad zedmetia Cveni mxridan

sul axlaxan, 8 Tebervals momxdari

movlenebis ganxilva. Cven: 1. ubralod SegaxseneT

es Canaweri, rogorc winaswarmetyvelebis

asrulebis dasturi; 2. kidev erTxel vcdilobT

gavafrTxiloT winaswarmetyvelebis

adresati. ramdenad Sedegiani iqneba Cveni mcdeloba,

ar viciT, magram sasurveli ki iqneboda,

rom adamianebs, miT umetes maT, vinc ase

konkretulad arian nawinaswarmetyvelebni, yurad

eRoT lela kakulias sityvebi.

7

onald ronald d. d. asmus asmusi asmus

mcire omi,

romelmac msoflio SeZra

(dasawyisi

#49-71)

prezidenti sarkozi moskovSi 12 agvistos,

daaxloebiT SuadRisas Cafrinda. cota xniT

adre moskovma sajaro gancxadeba gaakeTa

cecxlis Sewyvetis Taobaze; Tbilissac, jerjerobiT,

araferi emuqreboda. teqnikuri

TvalsazrisiT, rusebma sityva orive sakiTx-

Tan dakavSirebiT, marTalia, Seasrules, magram

safrangeTis delegaciisTvis male cnobili

gaxda, rom zogierTi rusuli qvedanayofi

jer kidev agrZelebda winsvlas. Tavdapirvelad

sarkozi medvedevs Sexvda _ rogorc

qveynis prezidenti, swored is iyo ruseTis

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis mTavarsardali da

protokoliTac sarkozis Tanafardi.

sarkozisac swored medvedevTan surda

molaparakebebis gamarTva, oRond isic

aravisTvis iyo saidumlo, rom kremlis

taxtis ukan mdgomi Zala putini iyo.

safrangeTis delegacias moaxsenes, premier-ministric

male CaerTveba molaparakebebSio,

ramac viTarebas kidev meti dramatuli

elferi SesZina. sarkozim jer kidev

pekinidan icoda, rom putins saakaSvilis

gagonebac ar surda da lavrovmac ki am

molaparakebebis winapirobad misi gadadgoma

wamoayena. saqarTveloSi reJimis Secvlis

safrTxe jer isev arsebobda. mogvianebiT,

kremlis erT-erTma polit-teqnologma, gleb

pavlovskim radio èxo maskvis~ eTerSi ganacxada,

rom im dRes èrT umniSvnelovanes

Sexvedraze~ gaisma xmebi cecxlis Sewyvetis

miuReblobis, Tbilisisken daZvrisa da sityvasityviT:

`kidev ufro Sors wasvlis~ Taobaze.

man mkacrad gaakritika amgvari pozicia

da aRniSna, msgavsi nabiji uTuod daazaralebs

ruseTis urTierTobebs dasavleT-

Tan da prezidenti medvedevis imedebsac

daasamarebs ruseTis modernizaciasa da `gadasavlurebasTan~

dakavSirebiTo.

mMolaparakeba daiwyo da kuSneris gasaocrad,

TbilisSi misi da stubis mier momzadebuli

proeqti gakvriTac ki aravis uxsenebia. mar-

Talia, man es proeqti iMmTaviTve gadagzavna

parizSi, magram saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis

mrCevelma, levitma miiCnia, rom dokumenti

rusebTan saubris dasawyebad ar ivargebda

da saerTod, Tavdapirvelad jer saakaSvilTan

SeTanxmebuli teqstis moskovisTvis

wardgena Secdoma iqneboda.

safrangeTis saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis

sabWom meore, alternatiuli proeqti moamzada,

magram isic uaryofil iqna. Mmokled, saubari

imiT daiwyo, rom rusebma magidaze didi

ruka gaSales da usafrTxoebis is zona

moxazes, romlis Seqmnac aucileblad miaCndaT

saqarTvelos Semdgomi qmedebebisagan

samxreT oseTis dasacavad.

rusebis mier moTxovnili amgvari zonis

Seqmna moskovs SesaZleblobas miscemda, ara

marto kontroli daemyarebina saqarTvelos

dasavleT-aRmosavleTis damakavSirebel magistralebze,

aramed erTgvar vetos uflebasac

_ saqarTvelos nebismier mcdelobaze

_ aRedgina dangreuli ekonomika. sxvaTa

Soris, am zonaSi eqceoda is gzac _

ruseTis sazRvridan Tbilisamde, romelic

moskovma saqarTveloSi SesaWrelad gamoiyena

am qveynis mier 1921 wels damoukideblobis

dakargvis dros.

Mmoskovma piroba im TvalsazrisiT Seasrula,

rom Tbilisi ar auRia, magram Tan

aSkarad kbilebs ilesavda da axla ukve

sxvagvarad cdilobda saqarTveloSi gabatonebas,

zogadad qveynisa da misi ekonomikis

daCoqebas, rac, saboloo jamSi, xelisuflebis

aRsasrulsa da ara samxedro, aramed

ukve politikuri da ekonomikuri berketebiT

reJimis Secvlas moaswavebda. M

molaparakebis dros franguli mxare mudmivad

iRebda axal-axal cnobebs imis Taobaze,

rogor gadaadgildebodnen ruseTis nawilebi

dakavebul tertoriaze da sxvaTa Soris,

arc uSualod Tbilisisken mimarTuli safrTxe

Canda sabolood Tavidan acilebuli.

amasobaSi putinic gamoCnda _ rogorc Cans,

kbilis eqimisgan modioda da maincdamainc

xasiaTze ver iyo, Tumca zustad mainc ver-

saqarTvelo, ruseTi da dasavluri samyaros momavali

avin ityodi _ sakuTar dastaqarze ufro

gaxldaT aRrenili, Tu saqarTveloze...

savsebiT naTeli mxolod erTi ram Canda:

ase Tu ise, ruseTis premier-ministrs saakaSvilis

sruli `gadaxazva~ surda. Mmasa da

sarkozis Soris sakmaod daZabuli sityvieri

farikaoba Sedga, rac Semdgom frangul presaSi

gamoqveynda kidec.:

`minda, rom saakaSvili kaklebiT Camovkido!~

_ Tqva putinma.

`rogor Tu Camokido?!~ _ gaikvirva sarkozim.

`ratom ara?~ _ daekiTxa putini _

àmerikelebma xom Camokides sadami!~

`gana Tqvenc buSiviT gindaT daamTavroT?~

_ CaeRima safrangeTis prezidents.

putinma cota xans Seicada da mere Tqva:

àmaSi ki marTali xar...~

am replikis Semdeg sityva sarkozim aiRo:

`modiT, vacaloT qarTvel xalxs _ Tavad

gadawyvitos, vin unda liderad... demokratiac

egaa. nu CavereviT. Tu qarTvelebis mxridan

axali Setevis safrTxe gafiqrebT, modiT,

amaze visaubroT _ mec swored magisTvis

var Camosuli~.

roca es sameuli sasadilod gaemarTa,

ori qveynis sagareo saqmeTa ministrebma da

erovnuli usafrTxoebis mrCevelebma axal

proeqtze daiwyes muSaoba; magram azrTa

sxvadasxvaoba imdenad didi iyo, prezidentebisTvis

winaswar gansaxilvelad warsadgeni

samuSao teqstic ki ver gaamzades. sadilis

Semdeg maT gulwrfelad aRiares sakuTari

uunaroba da molaparakebac TiTqos CixSi

Sevida. sarkozis swored axla unda mieRo

saboloo gadawyvetileba _ an mosalodneli

riskebis gaTvaliswinebiT, Sexvedris CaSlis

da Sin gabrunebis muqariT gamosuliyo,

an Zalisxmeva gaeormagebina da dasavleTis

yvela winapirobis Seusruleblad, Tundac

raime kompromisisTvis mainc mieRwia.

parizi srulad acnobierebda, rom moskovma

ukve daarRvia civi omisSemdgomi

evropuli mSvidobis umTavresi piroba,

roca Zalis gamoyenebiT gadalaxa sxva

qveynis sazRvari; safrangeTis gadasaxedidan

es sruliad miuRebeli Canda, magram

parizs isic gaazrebuli hqonda,

rom im drosa da im viTarebaSi momxdars

veRar moabrunebda. arc safrangeTsa da

arc evrokavSirs ar gaaCnda is Zala Tu

berketebi, moskovs rom aiZulebda, yvela

im moTxovnas dayabuleboda, rasac dasavleTi

Tu saqarTvelo iTxovda.

im viTarebaSi, roca ruseTis SeiaraRebuli

Zalebi saqarTvelos dedaqalaqis misadgomebTan

iyvnen ganlagebulni, moskovs cxadia,

uaRresad momgebiani pozicia ekava. amitomac

sarkozim da misma gundmac gadawyvites, mTeli

yuradReba dauyovnebliv gadasadgmel nabijebze

gaemaxvilebinaT anu SeeCerebinaT ruseTis

armiis winsvla. gadaerCinaT Tbilisi da

metismetis moTxovniT SesaZlebelic ar gaeSvaT

xelidan. axla mTavari is iyo, Tbilisi

srul ganadgurebasa da okupacias gadarCenoda.

rogorc mogvianebiT kuSnerma Tqva:

`CvenTvis rusis jaris SeCereba iyo

mTavari _ mizanic es gaxldaT da amocanac.

saamisod unda gveRiarebina maTi gamarjveba

afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTSi da

Semdgom mogveTxova amas dajerdiTo...~

mokled, sarkozi medvedevs miubrunda da

uTxra: `kargi, modiT, es Cven TviTon vcadoT...~

mere kalami moimarjva da gakruli

xeliT furcelze ramdenime debuleba Camowera.

cecxlis Sewyvetis Taobaze Tavdapirveli

SeTanxmebis proeqtisgan gansxvavebiT, aq

saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianoba naxsenebic

ar iyo. samagierod, kuSner-stubis

dokumentis oTxma punqtma axla odnav gansxvavebuli

saxe miiRo da maT kidev ori

axali punqti daemata: erTi konfliqturi

zonebis irgvliv e.w. ùsafrTxoebis damatebiTi

zonebis~ SemoRebas, meore ki afxazeTisa

da samxreT oseTis statusTan dakavSirebiT

molaparakebis gamarTvas gulisxmobda.

es dokumenti saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis sakiTxebSi

sarkozisa da medvedevis mrCevelebs

_ Jan-david levitsa da sergei prixodkos

gadaecaT da misi gadabeWdva/gamravleba Tu

rusulad Targmnac maTve daakisres.

ai, saboloo franguli da rusuli

teqstebis erTmaneTTan Sesadareblad ki

ukve aRaravis Seuwuxebia Tavi.

3-4 saaTis Semdeg prezidentebs cecxlis

SewyvetisTvis aucilebel 6 moTxovnaze

dafuZnebuli SeTanxmebuli dokumentis teqsti

warudgines. sarkozim da medvedevma mogvianebiT

es moTxovnebi preskonferenciazec

gaaxmovanes:

• Zalis gamouyenebloba;

• yovelgvari dapirispirebis sruli aRkveTa;

• humanitaruli daxmarebis Tavisuflad

miwodebis uzrunvelyofa;

• saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebis

dabruneba mudmivi dislokaciis poziciebze;

• rusuli SeiaraRebuli Zalebis dabrune

ba omamdel poziciebze; xolo saerTa-

Soriso meqanizmebis SemuSavebamde, rusul

samSvidoboebs usafrTxoebis damatebiTi

zomebis gatarebac ekisrebaT;

• saerTaSoriso diskusiis gamarTva

samxreT oseTisa da afxazeTis samo

mavlo statusTan dakavSirebiT da maTi

grZelvadiani usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofis

gzebis gamonaxvis Taobaze.

diplomatis maxvili Tvali ar sWirdeboda

imis SemCnevas, rom dokumenti enobrivadac

moikoWlebda da ramdenime punqti sulac

orazrovnad JRerda. igi ufro ruseTisa da

safrangeTis miznebs Soris arsebul gansxvaveba-

Ta SesaniRbad iyo gamiznuli. preskonferenciis

dasawyisSi medvedevma ara marto saqarTvelos

teritoriuli mTlianobis, aramed am qveynis

damoukideblobasa da suverenitetis xsenebasac

ki aarida Tavi; sarkozim saCqarod gausva xazi,

ramdenad uWerda mxars am ukanaskneli ori

principis ganuxrel dacvas da medvedevs sTxova,

daedasturebina, rom isic iziarebda am xedvas.

mere orive liders dausves SekiTxva _ ratom

ar iyo gancxadebaSi teritoriul mTlianobaze

saubari. medvedevma SekiTxva upasuxod datova,

sarkozim ki Tqva, rom misi mizani yvela

mniSvnelovan sakiTxis mogvareba ki ara, pirvel

rigSi, cecxlis Sewyveta iyo: àrsebobs ori

gza,~ _ daamata iqve, _ àn unda vecadoT

axlave gadavWraT yvela problema da saboloo

jamSi, verc veraviTar Sedegs ver mivaRwioT,

an _ jer mSvidoba davamyaroT, xolo am

viTarebidan gamosavali mere veZeboT; Cvenc

swored es meore gza vamjobineT~.

bolos medvedevic uxalisod daeTanxma

da aRniSna, rom isic aRiarebda saqarTvelos

damoukideblobasa da suverenitets;

Tumca saswrafodve daamata: ès imas ar

niSnavs, suverenul saxelmwifos ufleba

hqondes is akeTos, rac moesurveba!~

kiTxvaze _ SeZleben ki odesme qarTvelebi,

osebi da afxazebi kvlav erTad cxovrebaso,

ase upasuxa: ès kiTxva maT sakuTar Tavs unda

dausvan da mkafio pasuxic Tavad gascen; maT

magivrad verc ruseTi ilaparakebs da verc

vinme sxva~. mere ganagrZo: `bolo ramdenime

wlis ganmavlobaSi saerTaSoriso samarTalma

mogvca mravali rTuli magaliTi xalxTa mier

TviTgamorkvevis uflebis ganxorcielebisa. rukaze

axali saxelmwifoebi gaCnda _ amis magali-

Tad kosovoc kmara...~ anu moskovi axla dasavleTs

balkaneTis gamo ubrunebda xurdas,

rac, diplomatiuri TvalsazrisiT, sapasuxo

dartymis tolfasi gaxldaT.

sarkozim da kuSnerma moskovi sakuTari

warmatebis rwmeniT datoves: omic SeaCeres

da ruseTis samxedro Zalis winsvlac. darwmunebulni

iyvnen, rom saakaSvilma mcdari

nabiji gadadga ieriSis wamowyebisas da

saqarTveloc am omSi, arsebiTad, damarcxebuli

darCa. mTeli misiis ganmavlobaSi maT

arc dausaxavT miznad ruseTisTvis agresorobaSi

daedoT brali; arc imas cdilobdnen,

omiT dakarguli kvlav saqarTvelos

dabruneboda.

rusebis samxedro Zlierebis gaTvaliswinebiT,

orive naTlad acnobierebda

sakuTari gavlenis farglebs da mxolod

is surdaT, omi manamde dasrulebuliyo,

vidre moskovisa da dasavleTis urTier-

Tobebi Seuqcevadad ar gauaresdeboda.

maT moaxerxes saqarTvelos gadarCena, SeinarCunes

evropis urTierTobebi ruseTTan da

daadastures, rom safrangeTis liderobiT

evrokavSirs Zala Seswevda, evropis periferiaze

am masStabis krizisul viTarebas gamklaveboda.

mokled, warmateba aSkarad esaxebodaT

da moskovidan Tbilisisken gamgzavrebulebma

es ambavi TviTmfrinavSive aRniSnes.

Tumca sxvebi sxvagvarad fiqrobdnen: roca

amerikelma maRalCinosnebma moskovSi xelmow-

8

erili dokumenti ixiles, erT-erTi maTganis

TqmiT _ piri dagvrCa Riao. savaraudod,

cecxlis Sesawyvetad konkretuli droc unda

yofiliyo daTqmuli da Sesabamisi arealic

SemosazRvruli; amaze ki dokumentSi sityva

ar iyo naxsenebi. TavisTavad, teqstic bundovani

Canda da araerTgvarovani wakiTxvis

SesaZleblobas tovebda: zemoxsenebul ruse-

Tis SeiaraRebul ZalebSi erTmaneTisgan ar

iyo gamijnuli samSvidobo da ase vTqvaT,

saintervencio nawilebi; aseve, ras niSnavda

ùsafrTxoebis damatebiTi zomebi?~ Tu es

rusebs unda ganesazRvraT, ra SeuSlidaT

xels, mTel danarCen qveyanas mosdebodnen

da is ekeTebinaT, rac moegunebebodaT! ra

axali tipis `saerTaSoriso meqanizmebi~ igulisxmeboda

da ra dro dasWirdeboda maT

amoqmedebas? saqmes iseTi piri uCanda, rom

moskovs SeeZlo, sakuTari SeiaraRebuli Zalebi

qveynis strategiulad

mniSvnelovan adgileb-

Si daetovebina.

magram, faqtia, amerikas

fsoni parizze hqonda

dadebuli. vaSingtonis

warmomadgeneli

molaparakebaTa oTaxSi

ar yofila da amitom

xelaRebiT veravin ityoda,

risi miRweva iqneboda

iq SesaZlebeli

da risi _ ara.

rogorc Cans, metis

miRweva arc gamodioda,

safrangeTs unda

mieRwia warmatebisTvis,

Tu vaSingtons

sakuTari amocanis

Sesruleba

eimedeboda.

aSS-is administracia

mzad

iyo moesmina

kritika misi

arasakmarisi aqtiurobisa

Tu mondomebis gamo, magram

vaSingtonSi miaCndaT, rom wamyvani roli

mainc evropas unda ekisra da safrangeTic

swored is partniori Canda, romelic maT

xedvas iziarebda. axla ki, roca saboloo

Sedegebi maincdamainc ar daemTxva vaSingtonis

molodins, meti ra Cara iyo _

Rrmad unda CaesunTqa da kritikisgan Tavi

Seekavebina.

arada, dRemde grZeldeba kamaTi, rogor Sefasdes

sarkozi-medvedevis SeTanxmeba: sakmarisad

gambedavi iyo moskovSi Casuli safrangeTis

prezidenti da saukeTeso SesaZlebel Sedegs

miaRwia Tu mtkiced ver daudga rusebs da

Sesabamisad, iseT wyalwyala dokuments moawera

xeli, romlis uvargisobac imTaviTve naTlad

Canda? moaxerxa ki parizma rTul viTarebaSi

maqsimumis gamowurva Tu nebismieri pirobiT

zavis dadebis mosurne sarkozi minimums daTanxmda?

viTom ufro mWidro transatlantikuri

TanamSromlobisa da amerikis ufro mkveTri

politikuri da diplomatiuri Carevis SemTxveva-

Si mosalodneli iyo sxva Sedegi, Tu amiT

mxolod aSS-ruseTis imgvar dapirispirebas miviRebdiT,

risi Tavidan acilebac yvelas erTnairad

surda? rogorc Cans, am kiTxvebze pasuxis moZebna

isev istorikosTa samomavlo saqmed darCeba.

TavianTi mxriv, frangi maRalCinosnebi

dabejiTebiT amtkiceben _ am pirobebSi

ukeTesi Sedegi, ubralod, warmoudgeneli

gaxldaTo. marTalia, vaSingtoni mudmivad

usvams xazs, parizTan sruli kavSiri gvqondao,

zogierTi frangi politikosi gansxvavebuli

azrisaa da acxadebs _ aSS TamaSs gamoeTiSa,

mere ki Cvenca da evropac moskovs

pirispir Segvatovao. safrangeTis sagareo

saqmeTa ministr kuSneris TqmiT: àmerikelebi

arsad Candnen... marTalia, telefoniT

gvikavSirdebodnen da Cvenc vurekavdiT; mar-

Talia, Sav zRvaSi samxedro gemi Semoiyvanes

_ ra mere? araferi! Cven mogviwia wiTeli

armiis SeCereba da Cveni umTavresi da erTaderTi

mizanic is iyo, rusebisaTvis saqarTvelos

dedaqalaqis aRebis saSualeba ar migveca~.

is, rasac safrangeTSi warmatebad Tvlid-

nen, TbilisSic sul sxvagvarad aRiqmeboda.

saakaSvili da misi gundi jer kidev maSin

darCnen gawbilebulni, roca buSma Tqva,

amerika wina planze gamosvlas ar apirebs da

sadaveebs safrangeTs gadaulocavso; Tumca

oficialuri Tbilisi mainc miesalma prezidenti

sarkozis misias moskovSi: saakaSvilma

icoda, rogor sWirdeboda vinme, vinc ruseTs

omis damTavrebaze daiyoliebda. Tu saamisod

vaSingtoni ar iyo mzad, maSin erTaderT

alternativad marTlac evrokavSiri rCeboda;

magram mMedvedev-sarkozis preskonferenciis

Semxedvare qarTvelebic saxtad darCnen:

saakaSvils swored wina dRiT hqonda

xelmowerili cecxlis Sewyvetis Taobaze SeTanxmebis

is proeqti, sadac saqarTvelos teritoriul

mTlianobazec iyo saubari, axal

dokumentSi ki es sakiTxi saerTod ar ixsenieboda

da sanacvlod ori axali, sakmaod

bundovani muxli

SeetanaT. arada,

TavisTavad is ambavic,

rom dokumenti

sajarod ukve moskovSive

gaxmianda, mas-

Si raime arsebiT cvlilebas

TiTqmis

SeuZlebels xdida.

sanam franguli

delegacia TviTmfrinavSi

zeimobda,

saakaSvili ramdenime

ucxoel diplomats

daukavSirda telefoniT

maTi azris

gasarkvevad. saqarTve-

am droisaTvis, momqancveli dRis mere, sarkozi gvarianad daiRala; gaRizianebuli

da moTminebadakarguli, drodadro skamidan wamoxteboda xolme

da qarTvelebisagan lamis ukve yviriliT moiTxovda xelmoweras: `ra amerikelebi

agitydaT?! sadaa Tqveni buSi?! Tqvens gadasarCenad Tavs aravin gamoidebs!

arc evropelebi apireben amas! marto xarT, sul marto! xels Tu ar moawerT,

aq male rusuli tankebi igrialeben quCebSi!..~

los prezidenti aRaSfoTa teqstis Secvlam

da ainteresebda, ras urCevdnen, rogori

interpretacia mieca teqstisTvis da ra pasuxiT

daxvedroda Tbilisisken momaval Tavis

frang kolegas. Tbilisis gadasaxedidan moskovis

im mizanmimarTuli, agresiuli nabijebis

Sedegad, romelTa aRsakveTadac dasavleTma

bevri veraferi iRona, qveyana, faqtobrivad,

dapyrobli aRmoCnda da qarTvelebis

azriT, am omze dasavleTis pasuxic axla

raRac `mikibul-mokibuli~ iyo.

pirdapiri dagmobis nacvlad, dasavleTma

ruseTi mxolod Zalis gadametebuli

gamoyenebisTvis~ gaakritika, rac

imas niSnavda, rom garkveuli Zalis gamoyenebas

mainc misaRebad miiCnevda.

vaSingtonze ganawyenebis miuxedavad, qarTvelebs

saukeTeso megobrad kvlavac aSS esaxebodaT da

evropas ufro imedgacruebiT uyurebdnen. arada,

gadarCenisTvis swored evropis da misi imJamindeli

lideris, safrangeTis imedze rCebodnen.

winadRiT saakaSvilma erovnuli erTianobis

damadasturebel mitingze mouxmo xalxs

parlamentis Senobis win. ase cdilobda igi

sazogadoebis mxneobis amaRlebas. sarkozi

TbilisSi swored im dros Cavida, roca

mitingi mimdinareobda. eskorti parlamentis

Senobas miadga Tu ara, xalxmac erTxmad

aitaca: `sarkozi, sarkozi!~ saakaSvilma stumars

sTxova, sityviT miemarTa SekrebilTaTvis,

magram safrangeTis prezidentma SeTavazeba

Sors daiWira da maspinZlebs uTxra,

me aq omis Sesawyvetad Camovedi da ara

tribunidan sityvis saTqmelado... safrangeTis

delegacia SiSobda, rom saakaSvili maTi

vizitis saTavisod gamoyenebas ecdeboda; maT

mSvenivrad moexsenebodaT, rom sarkozis mier

sajarod Tqmul nebismier sityvas moskovi

gansakuTrebul yuradRebas dauTmobda.

viTareba kidev ufro daimuxta, roca

saqme im oTaxis gamoZebnaze midga, sadac

ori qveynis liderebi unda Sexvedrodnen

erTmaneTs. Tavdapirvelad molaparakebebi kancelariaSi

iyo dagegmili, magram mitingma

da sarkozis nagvianebma Camosvlam gegmebi

mkiTxvelis mkiTxvelis fosta

fosta

qalbatono lela,

didi xania vkiTxulob Tqvens gazeTs `qarTveli

winaswarmetyveli lela kakulia~, romelic sulierad

mamSvidebs da imeds maZlevs, rom male

Cemi saqarTvelo gabrwyindeba da iqneba iseTi,

rogorsac imsaxurebs mravalsaukunovani istoriis

mqone eri.

gazeTis gamosvlis Seferxeba da maSinve vrekav

mis ukana gverdze miTiTebul mobilurze da

vgebulob momdevno nomris gamosvlis TariRs.

erTi sityviT, mouTmenlad velodebi yoveli

axali nomris gamosvlas, romelsac vkiTxulob

mravaljer, dazepirebamde. aqedan gamomdinare,

aria da axla yvelaferi raRac araorganizebuli

Canda. saqarTvelos prezidents parlamentis

SenobaSic hqonda samuSao oTaxi da

bolo wuTs gadawyda, swored iq damsxdariyvnen,

oRond oTaxSi haeri cudad niavdeboda

da Sesabamisad, Zalze cxeloda.

amitomac garkveuli damatebiTi zomebis miReba

gaxda saWiro.

isic saTqmelia, rom franguli da

rusuli teqstebis inglisurad saTargmnad

Tavi aravis Seuwuxebia da marTalia,

Tavad saakaSvili Tavisuflad laparakobda

frangulad, misi proamerikuli

garemocvidan es ena cotas Tu esmoda.

imave dros, TbilisSi aseve Camovidnen

poloneTis prezidenti lex kaCinski, estone-

Tis prezidenti tomas ilvesi, litvis prezidenti

valdas adamkusi da latviis premierministri

ivars godmanisi. yvela maTgans

qarTvelebis mimarT Tanadgomis gamoxatva

surda. aRsaniSnavia, rom ruseTis sahaero

Zalebma sarkozis ki misces TbilisSi dafrenis

neba, magram polonur TviTmfrinavs saqarTvelos

sahaero sivrce gadauketes da maRalCinosnebsac

azerbaijanSi mouwiaT dajdoma, saidanac

ukve manqaniT Camovidnen TbilisSi.

saakaSvilma sarkozisTan Sexvedra miatova

da stumrebis Sesagebeblad gamovida.

mere isinic mitingze miipatiJa sityviT

gamosasvlelad. Semdeg, pirdapiri

mniSvnelobiT, isev safrangeTis prezidentTan

gaiqca da gaognebuli kolegebi

asi aTasamde qarTvelis pirispir datova

tribunaze. mokled, warmatebulad daiwyoo,

am vizitze verafriT iTqmoda...

sarkozisa da kuSneris saxiT qarTuli

mxare xedavda (an undoda daenaxa) erovnuli

gansacdelis Jams

dasaxmareblad Camosul

megobrebs; maT

surdaT gaegoT,

rogor da ratom

Seicvala ase

Zireulad ori dRiT

adre ukve xelmowerili

dokumenti. imedic hqondaT, dialogi

da ormxrivi daTmobebi moagvarebda, an Tundac,

ramenairad mainc gamoasworebda momxdars.

safrangeTisTvis amocana sxvagvarad idga:

sarkozis Semdgomi reviziebi aRar surda

da aucileblad miaCnda, daerwmunebina saqarTvelos

xelisufleba, ualternativod mieRo esoden

rTul viTarebaSi da aseTi daZabuli molaparakebebis

Sedegad moskovSi ukve Sejerebuli

dokumenti. iqidan es-esaa Camofrenilma,

man arc is icoda, Sesruldeboda Tu ara

cecxlis Sewyvetis SeTanxmeba da rusi generlebic

isev xom ar wamoiwyebdnen Setevas.

sasworze safrangeTisa da misi piradi

reputacia ido: cecxli Tu ar Sewydeboda,

misi, rogorc politikosis imijic,

cxadia, Zalze Seilaxeboda.

mokled, sarkozis upirobo xelmowera

sWirdeboda, riTac, misi azriT, saqarTveloc

gadarCeboda da misi samSvidobo misiac

warmatebulad CaiTvleboda; magram or

mxares Soris fsiqologiuri gansxvavebisa

da xsenebuli dokumentis sxvadasxvagvari aRqmis

faqti swrafadve gaxda sacnauri: sarkozis

saTqmeli sruliad araorazrovani Canda: an

xels moawerT, an arada, rusuli tankebi or

saaTSi aq iqnebiano... marTalia, dokumenti

namdvilad naklovani da alag-alag sruliad

bundovanic iyo, magram, misi azriT, mxolod

es xelmowera Tu daasrulebda oms da

saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebriobasac gadaarCenda.

Tavis mxriv qarTvelebs SekiTxvebze

pasuxis miReba undodaT, ganmartebebi sWirdebodaT

debulebaTa Taobaze da SesaZlo

cvlilebebisaTvis gzebis gamonaxvac.

am droisaTvis, momqancveli dRis mere,

sarkozi gvarianad daiRala; gaRizianebuli

da moTminebadakarguli, drodadro skamidan

wamoxteboda xolme da qarTvelebisagan lamis

ukve yviriliT moiTxovda xelmoweras:

`ra amerikelebi agitydaT?! sadaa Tqveni

buSi?! Tqvens gadasarCenad Tavs aravin gamoidebs!

arc evropelebi apireben amas! marto

xarT, sul marto! xels Tu ar moawerT, aq

male rusuli tankebi igrialeben quCebSi!..~

sruli WeSmaritebiT vaRiareb Tqvens did fenomenalur

niWs, rac gamoixateba Tqvens mier movlenebis

mravalferovan xilvaSi.

rom ara gazeTi `qarTveli winaswarmetyveli

lela kakulia~, ar vici, rogor gadavitandi

saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebs. Zalian emociuri

var da aranairi damamSvidebeli Cemze ar

moqmedebs, garda am gazeTisa.

pativiscemiT, TaTuSa leJava.

(stili daculia)

P.S. werils aklia monakveTi, sadac qalbatoni

TaTuSa pirad problemaze saubrobs.

9

internet-media

amerikelebisTvis, romlebic acnobiereben ruseTTan

TanamSromlobaze dafuZnebuli kavSiris

mniSvnelobas, 2012 weli mSvidi ar iyo. obamas

administraciis mier 2009 wels inicirebuli

`gadatvirTvis~ mcdeloba warumatebeli aRmoCnda.

im dros, rodesac vaSingtoni ganagr-

Zobda ruseTis sazRvrebis gaswvriv antisaraketo

Tavdacvis

obieqtebis ganTavsebas,

ruseTma miiRo

kanoni, romelic

angrevs ruseTSi

moqmedi, amerikidan

dafinansebuli

arasamTavrobo organizaciebisreputaciasa

da statuss.

xolo siriasa da

libiaSi mimdinare sisxlismRvrelma samoqalaqo

omebma axali sakamaTo Temebi da Sxamiani

diplomatiuri sarkazmi warmoSva moskovsa da

vaSingtons Soris.

Zalian cota amerikel damkvirvebels aRmoaCnda

SorsmWvretelobis unari, raTa gavefrTxilebineT

imis Taobaze, ris winaSec axla

aRmovCndiT _ axali civi omis Sesaxeb. Cemi

meuRle, stiven koeni _ erT-erTia am mcirericxovanTa

Soris. man araerTxel ganacxada,

rom Tu aSS ar Secvlida politikas postsabWoTa

ruseTis mimarT, Cvens Soris axali

civi omi daiwyeboda.

amis saSiSroeba xilulad gamoikveTa axlaxans,

rodesac ramdenime kviris manZilze baraq

obamamac da vladimer putinmac xeli moaweres

sadamsjelo brZanebebs. am brZanebebma sabolood

kanonis Zala miiRo. esenia: `magnitskis kanoni~

aSS-Si da `dima iakovlevis kanoni~ ruseTSi

(StatebSi gaSvilebis akrZalva). arcerT liders

ar exaliseboda am kanonebze xelmowera,

magram arcerT maTgans gauwevia winaaRmdegoba

kanonmdebelTa lamis erTsulovani gadawyvetilebisTvis.

rogorc ruseTis Temis eqspertebi _

vladimir sobeli, edvard lozanski da koeni

gvafrTxilebdnen, `magnitskis kanoni~ arRvevs

samarTlebriv normebs, ewinaaRmdegeba amerikul

faseulobebs da uaryofs aSS-is erovnuli

usafrTxoebis principebs~. dainteresebul pir-

Ta jgufis mier SeTiTxnili es kanoni, romel-

internet-media internet-media

katrina van den hoiveli: axali civi omi?

`vaSington posti~, aSS.

2007 weli, 14 ivlisi.

ic viTom mxolod im Cinovnikebze unda gavrcelebuliyo,

vinc magnitskis sikvdilSia damnaSave,

faqtobrivad, adamianTa metad farTe

kategoriaze vrceldeba. am kano-

nis Tanaxmad, aRmasrulebeli

xelisuflebis organoebi

valdebulni arian, dasajon

ruseTis calkeuli moqalaqeebi

dausabuTebeli eWvebis safuZvelze

da saTanado samarTlebrivi

procedurebis gareSe.

amis pasuxad rusma kanonmdeblebma

miiRes kanoni,

romelic srulad ukrZalavs

amerikul ojaxebs rusi bavS-

erTi mTavari: rac ruseTma saqarTvelos

gaukeTa, mas igives evropa-amerika

gaukeTebs. didi civi omi maT Soris

piks miaRwevs.

lela kakulia

vebis Svilad ayvanas. da putinmac xeli

moawera mas. es kanoni sisastikis gamovlinebad

iqca im bavSve-

bisTvis, romlebsac

saxlebi sWirdebaT,

magram gaRatakebul,

Camofxavebul bavSv-

Ta saxlebSi ifitebian

da sanTeliviT

qrebian.

cota xnis win aSSis

senatma erTxmad

miiRo rezolucia,

romelic akritikebs gaSvilebis Sesaxeb kanons.

amis kvaldakval kongresis koaliciam, romelic

Svilad ayvanis sakiTxs kurirebs, ganacxada,

rom saxelmwifo departamentTan erTad muSaobs

mimarTvis teqstze Suamdgomlobis Sesaxeb, raTa

Serbildes moTxovnebi gasaSvileblad gamzadebuli,

daaxloebiT 50 bavSvis mimarT.

arada, es saerTod

ar unda momxdariyo.

Tu putins `magnitskis

kanonis~ gamo sapasuxo

dartymis ganxorcieleba

surda, mas

SeeZlo sxva meTodiT

eZia Suri. magali-

Tad, gaeyida aSS

dolarebi da rusuli

erovnuli kapitalis

didi nawili

sxva valutaSi gadaetana;

an Tundac, ecada,

daemuxruWebina

avRaneTSi nato-s

jarebisTvis iaraRis miwodeba misi teritoriis

gavliT.

Tu am warumateblobebsa da marcxSi raime

dadebiTi momentebi arsebobs, es, albaT, isaa,

rom rusuli politikuri elitis rigebSi seriozuli

ganxeTqileba SeiniSneba. Temis mimarT

ukmayofileba gamoTqves sagareo saqmeTa minis-

trma sergei lavrovma, vice-premierma olga golodecma

da agreTve adamianis uflebaTa dacvis

komitetis wevrebma. `dima iakovlevis kanonis~

miRebas

2011 weli, 14 noemberi, Tbilisi.

yvela da yvelaferi ruseTis winaaRmdeg

moimarTeba. frTxilad! yvela civi

omis saSiSroebaze alaparakdeba da

xalxis yuradRebasac gadarTaven rusul

politikaze.

lela kakulia

2008 weli, 5 noemberi, Tbilisi.

ruseTis

moqalaqeTa

did nawil-

Si protesti

mohyva.

am adamianebma

es

kanoni bavSv

e b i s

p o l i -

tikuri

miznebisTvis gamoyenebad aRiqves. rogorc saagento

`novosti~ acxadebs, SesaZloa saxelmwifo saTaTbiros

konstituciuri kanonmdeblobisa da saxelmwifo

aRmSeneblobis komitetis wevrebma ganixilon

im xalxis on-lain peticia, romlebic ar

eTanxmebian am kanonis miRebas. peticias, romelze

xelmoweris SesaZleblobac `novaia gazetam~ uzrunvelyo,

100 aTasze metma moqalaqem moawera xeli.

aqamde im adamianTa umravlesoba, romlebic

antirusul da antiputinur ganwyobas

gamoxatavdnen, amerikul elitas warmoadgendnen.

axla ki gaSvilebis akrZalvam SesaZloa saprotesto

ganwyobebi gaaRvivos amerikul sazogadoebaSic.

amas garda, SesaZloa aman

waaqezos is amerikelebi, romlebic civi

omis momxreni arian (aTasobiT adamianma ukve

moawera xeli peticias obamas saxelze, romliTac

`magnitskis siaSi~ `dima iakovlevis

kanonis~ mxardamWer rus kanonmdebelTa Seyvanas

iTxoven). samwuxarod, yovelTvis, roca

saxelmwifos

amerikam daamtkica, rom igi namdvilad

demokratiuli qveyanaa. ruseTi

ki isev Zvel didebas ixsenebs _ sab-

WoTa kavSiris droindels _ da cdilobs,

Tavidan Seqmnas es monstri. igi

arc civi omis winaaRmdegia, radgan

kargad uwyis, rom ruseTis imperia

iSleba da male ruseTisgan TiTqmis

araferi darCeba.

lela kakulia

liderebi Tavisi

qveynis nacionalistebis

ganwyobas

qeds udreken, amiT

isini qmnian daZabulobas

da zewolas

axdenen ukeanisgaRmeloponentebze,

anu aiZuleben

maT, igive

gaakeTon sakuTar

saxelmwifoSi.

da amgvari

maxinji da saSiSi

konfrontacia izrdeba. xolo im seriozuli

problemebis fonze, romlebic or saxelmwifos

Soris dgas _ dawyebuli avRaneTiT,

iraniTa da siriiT, da dasrulebuli msoflioSi

birTvuli iaraRis gavrcelebiT _ es

winaaRmdegoba SesaZloa saSinel SedegebSi gadaizardos.

es ki kidev metad daaCqarebs civ

oms.

slobodan samarjia: civi omi ruseTsa da aSS-is Soris

`politika~, serbeTi

ukve ramdenime xania, rac aSS-sa da ruseTs

Soris gamoucxadebeli omi mimdinareobs. es

omi daundobelia, miuxedavad imisa, rom

masSi arc joni iRupeba da arc sergei.

sikvdili sirielebisTvisaa gankuTvnili. isini

arian dasisxlianebulebi, isini esvrian erTmaneTs

tyviebsa da bombebs, isini sCadian

danaSauls, isini arian sazarbazne xorci.

`SeSfoTebuli~ globaluri moTamaSeebi ki

am dros pres-konferenciebs iwveven da mouwodeben

gaeros, usafrTxoebis sabWos sxdoma

Caataros (ra Tqma unda, daxurul kars

miRma), raTa sxdomis damTavrebis Semdeg

ganacxadon, rom saTqmeli araferi aqvT.

amerikelebi baSar al-asadis winaaRmddegni

arian da misi Camogdeba surT, rusebi ki

darwmunebulebi arian, rom es namdvil qaoss

daudebs saTaves.

mTavari da mniSvnelovani isaa, rom xelebi

sufTa gqondes.

vaSingtonidan ambavi movida, rom aSS-is

kongresma, axali samxedro biujetis damtkicebisas,

pentagons iaraRiT vaWrobis monopolist

`rosoboroneksportTan~ TanamSromloba

aukrZala. es gadawyvetileba im mizeziT

miiRes, rom ruseTis mTavroba siriis mTavrobas

iaraRs damaskoSi awvdis, rac amerikul interesebs

ewinaaRmdegeba. magram raSi mdgomareobs

amerikuli interesebi, ar cxaddeba.

Tumca ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom igive

`rosoboroneqsporti~ iyo aSS-is armiis erTerTi

mTavari mommaragebeli sxva cxel wertil-

Si _ avRaneTSi.

iq raRa interesebi aqvs amerikas, arc

esaa gacxadebuli.

ruseTma da CineTma kidev erTxel daades

veto gaeros usafrTxoebis sabWos dasavluri

rezoluciis proeqts, romelic siriis

reJims sanqciebiT emuqreboda. moskovis

poziciis Tanaxmad, dasavleTs am dokumentis

miRebiT surda gaemarTlebina siriaSi, libiis

scenariT, samxedro Carevis SesaZlebloba.

`maTi mcdeloba, gamoiyenon gaero sakuTari

gegmebis realizaciisTvis da zewola moaxdinon

suverenul saxelmwifoebze, nayofs ver

gamoiRebs~ _ ganacxada gaeroSi ruseTis

warmomadgenelma vitali Curkinma.

siria iqca regionul arenad, romelzec aSS

da ruseTi kidev erTxel axdenen namdvili

Zalis demonstrirebas. civi omisdroindeli

klasikuri dayofa `dasavleTad~ da àRmosavle-

Tad~ mocemul situaciaSi uadgiloa, ramdenadac

sruliad naTelia, rom yvela danarCeni,

vinc vaSingtonsa da moskovs miRma mdebareobs,

siriis SemTxvevaSi mxolod met-naklebad aqtiuri

momxreebis rols TamaSoben.

amaze metyvelebs siriis sakiTxSi gaeros

specialuri wargzavnilis, kofi ananis viziti

moskovSi. viziti dune gancxadebiT dasrulda,

rac verafriT ver moaxdens gavlenas

situaciaze.

siriis omma saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis

gansxvavebuli koncefciebi gamoavlina, romelTagan

TiToeuli mxolod zesaxelmwifoebs miesadagebaT.

amerikelebi, iyeneben ra àdamianis uflebeTa~

Temas, Tavs nebas aZleven Caerion

yvelgan, sadac ki interesebi aqvT _ baSar

asadis ezoSic ki.

rusebs ki aqvT Zalian naTeli pozicia, rom

asadis Camogdeba kars gauxsnis, egreT wodebul,

reJimis cvlis koncefcias. es ki, ueWvelia,

safrTxes Seuqmnis rusuli kompaniebis

tradiciul saqmian interesebs msoflios sxvadasxva

kuTxeSi, maT Soris, axlo aRmosavleTSi.

am civ omSi, romelic sabWoTa periodisgan

gansxvavebiT, ar atarebs ideologiur xasiaTs,

iaraRi ar irCeva. yvelaferi gamodgeba. masmedia,

raRa Tqma unda, erT-erTia maT Soris.

nebismieri SeiaraRebuli konfliqtis gamocxadeba

`mSvidobiani mosaxleobis ganadgurebad~

_ es taqti kaa, romelic yovelTvis

karg Sedegs iZleva im SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu

bolos da bolos, simarTle mainc irkveva.

rogorc polonuri gazeTis, `globaluri politikis~

analitikosi werda, sirilebi, iseve rogorc

iranelebi, libielebi da avRanelebi _ iwyeben

gacnobierebas, rom isini mxolod iaraRni arian

mZlavr `derJavaTa~ xelSi, romelTac sakuTari

interesebis realizeba surT brZolis velze.

sakiTxavi mxolod isaa, SeswevT ki maT raimes

Secvlis unari. amerika da ruseTi xom, isedac

gasagebia, rom maT mdgomareobas ar amsubuqeben.

10

lil xedvas ucbad vwer raime furcelze da

mere gadamaqvs xolme rveulSi.

_ anu, es igive winaswarmetyvelebaa,

romelic imave welsaa Cawerili Tqvens

rveulSi? iq aseTi ram gaqvT naTqvami:

`muslimebi amerikas umizneben. amjerad

TeTri saxlis afeTqeba surT. mizans

bolomde ver miaRweven, magram es Zalian

imoqmedebs xalxze~.

_ diax, es swored egaa. sxvaTa Soris,

es Zalian sayuradRebo winaswarmetyvelebaa,

Zalian!

_ qalbatono lela, xom ar SeafasebdiT

saqarTvelos axali mTavrobis

mier gadadgmul nabijebs?

_ ara, Sefaseba politikosebisa

da politologebis saqmea da ara

Cemi. Cemi saqmea kosmosidan wamosuli

informaciis Cawera da xalxisTvis

miwodeba. me ar vafaseb, me vxedav.

vxedav Zalian bevr rames da Zalian

sayuradRebos, mniSvnelovans, magram

mavanTa dasaxmareblad erT sityvasac

ar vityvi. TviTon mixvdnen yvelafers,

Tu ase Wkvianebi arian!!!

Sen kargad ici, erT pirovnebas

wlebis win uzarmazari informacia

miveci, magram man waRma sakeTebeli

ukuRma Seabruna da amitomaa dRes

rom Tavze eqceva yvelaferi.

_ diax, vici. im pirovnebas,

Tqvens fenomens pirispir rom Seejaxa,

maSin kankali daawyebina. Ti-

Toeul Tqvens sityvas ylapavda.

megona, windaxedulad moiqceoda,

magram Tqven maSinve brZaneT, mainc

dauSvebs Secdomebso da asec moxda.

_ hoda, jer sad aris?!

_ qalbatono lela, qveyanaSi

xmauriani sasamarTlo da sagamo-

Ziebo procesebi mimdinareobs,

Tumca, jerjerobiT arcerTi dasrulebuli

saqme ar gvinaxavs, rac

sazogadoebaSi garkveul ukmayofilebasiwvevs.

ramdenad sworia

sazogadoebis amgvari sulswrafoba

da saerTodac, aris ki es

sulswrafoba?

_ diax, aris. adamianebs yvelaferi imwu-

Tas langriT mirTmeuli uyvarT, mocda ar

SeuZliaT, amis unari bevrs ar aqvs, rac ar

aris swori. garkveul situaciebSi saWiroa

mocda, dalodeba da mxolod mere Sefasebis

gakeTebac da moqmedebac. amgvar mouTmenlobas

xSirad mohyveba xolme, xatovnad rom

vTqvaT, or marqenal xars Soris gaWyletva.

Tanac, rac mTavaria, rogorc ar unda iCqaroT

adamianebma, yvelafers Tavisi dro

aqvs da swored im dros agebinebs kosmosi

pasuxs yvelas: maRalsac da dabalsac, mdidarsac

da Raribsac, mefesac da glexsac.

ise ki, rom icodeT, informaciisTvis, yvela

saqme iqneba namdvilad gamoZiebuli.

_ qalbatono lela, piradad me mainc

yvelaze metad dasavleTis damokidebuleba

mainteresebs axali qarTuli

mTavrobis mimarT. ramdenad Seesabameba

zogierT calkeul dasavlur gamocemaSi

mkiTxvelTa mkiTxvelTa sayuradRebod!

sayuradRebod!

`winaswarmetyvelebam ar icis qmari da Svili, axlobeli da

megobari. Cven vambobT imas, rasac vxedavT da gveubnebian...

miiReT miiReT ise, ise, rogorc rogorc vw vwinaswarmetyveleb!

vw inaswarmetyveleb!

inaswarmetyveleb!~

inaswarmetyveleb!

wesebis sruli dacviT, nimuSis mixedviT SeavseT winamdebare

anketa; miitaneT an gagzavneT igi daviT aRmaSeneblis

gamziris #44-Si mdebare qalaqis mTavar fostaSi (safosto

indeqsi 0102) boris quTaTelaZis saxelze, `mokiTxvamde~.

anketis Sevsebisas yuradReba gaamaxvileT Semdeg niuansebze:

aucilebelia miuTiToT namdvili (sapasporto) saxeli da

wlovaneba; erT anketaSi dasviT erTi konkretuli

kiTxva, romelic Seexeba Tqvens pirad cxovrebas da ara

politikas (SegiZliaT gamogzavnoT anketebis ganusazRvreli

raodenoba, mxolod axali nomrebidan amoWrili).

zogadi Sinaarsis SekiTxvebs (mag. `ra melis momavalSi?~)

da gaurkvevel, rTulad wasakiTx gzavnils pasuxi ar

gaecema.

fostis waReba moxdeba yoveli Tvis 25 ricxvisTvis.

pasuxs miiRebT el-fostis meSveobiT Tvis bolomde,

misamarTze, romelsac miuTiTebT anketaSi.

P.S. gTxovT ar gamogzavnoT anketis qseroaslebi

da kiTxvebi, romlebic dakavSirebulia Sav magiasTan.

aseT SekiTxvebs pasuxi ar gaecema. redaqcia

dabeWdili publikaciebi saerTo dasavlur

ganwyobas?

_ ici ra, saerTod ar mainteresebs

magaTi ganwyoba da publikaciebi. imitom,

rom mTavarze umTavresi isaa, ras brZanebs

kosmosi da ara vinme Jurnalisti Tu kongresmeni.

mTavari isaa, rom arsebobs uamravi

winaswarmetyveleba saqarTvelos nato-sa da

evrokavSirSi gawevrianebis Taobaze da mor-

Ca! vinc ra unda weros da iZaxos, es mainc

ase moxdeba. ucxoel Jurnalistebsa Tu

zogierT politikoss, rogorc ityvian, dReSi

xuTi paraskevi aqvT da Zalianac nu gamovedevnebiT

maT mosazrebebs.

ise, kidev kargi, yvelaferi kosmosSi wydeba

da ara dedamiwaze, Torem, xom warmogidgenia,

ra iqneboda?!

_ qalbatono lela, `nacionalurma

moZraobam~ 19 aprils aqcia daaanonsa

TbilisSi da axla yvela am Temaze

msjelobs. zogs miaCia, rom es ori

TviT adre gacxadebuli aqcia safrTxeebis

Semcvelia Tavad am partiis mxridan,

xolo zogi fiqrobs, rom araferi

seriozuli mosalodneli ar aris.

_ ici ra, ra moxdeba, wlebis win maqvs

nawinaswarmetyvelebi, imaze adre, vidre `nacionaluri

partia~ Camoyalibdeboda da mas

Semdegac uamravjer. axla naTqvams aRar

gavimeoreb da davelodebi, rogor Seafaseben

politikos-politologebi cxvirze momdgar

movlenebs. Zalian mainteresebs, erTi

rogor analizs gaakeTeben da ramdenad gamarTldeba

zogierTi viTom Zalian Wkviani

nimuSi:

saxeli: eka (ekaterine) asaki: 19 w.

var abiturienti. vabareb turizmis fakultetze.

SekiTxva:

movewyobi Tu ara umaRles saswavlebelSi?

el-fosta (miuTiTeT garkveviT): ekaterine@yahoo.com

saxeli: asaki:

SekiTxva:

el-fosta:

eqspertis prognozi. erTs gavimeoreb mxolod:

modian Cemi nawinaswarmetyvelebi `giorgi

brwyinvale~ da Cemi `mecnierebi!~

_ `nacionalebma~ ganacxades, rom male

isini sanimuSo partiad Camoyalibdebian

da yvelasaTvis samagaliTo politikur

Zalad iqcevian. ramdenad aqvT maT es

Sansi?

_ `nacionalebma~ Tavisi qmedebebiT imdenad

aimxedres xalxi, rom TviTonac ukvirT

axla. isini ar elodebodnen aseT reaqcias

sazogadoebisgan. Zalian gadaamlaSes. Sansi

ki... mokled, vurCev, axla mainc dafiqrdnen

da windaxedulad moiqcnen. mkiTxvelma ki

adreul Canawerebs gadaxedos, maT

Sanssa da momavalze iq bevri ram

maqvs naTqvami.

aqve minda oriode sityviT

Sevexo im incidents, rac `maestros~

pirdapir eTerSi moxda

daviTaSvilsa da ratians Soris.

tvini waiRes erTi kvira amaze

laparakiT! ra gagikvirdaT?

saqarTvelos parlamentis wevrebisTvis

iyo es pirveli SemTxveva

Tu zogadad msoflio parlamentarizmis

istoriisTvis? ukrainis

parlamentze aRarafers vambob, lamis

yoveldRe rom xelCarTuli

brZolebia, ruseTis duma, inglisis

parlamenti, iaponiis parlamenti

gamonaklisebi ar arian. axlac

Tvalwin midgas, rogor galaxa

Jirinovskim kolega qalbatoni (rac

Zalian mewyina), da iaponeli parlamentari

qalbatoni, romelic, rom

ityvian, wixlebiT Sesdga mamakac

kolegas (amaze ki bevri vicine).

ra gaSfoTebT, televiziiT Riad

rom gamoCnda es Cxubi? diaxac,

unda gamoCndes. xalxma unda naxos,

rogor ìcaven~ maT uflebebs

parlamentarebi. ratomac ara?

_ dabolos, qalbatono

lela, amerikaSi gamocemuli

Tqveni wignis Taobaze ras

ityviT?

_ raRa unda vTqva imaze

meti, rac xdeba? es me bevri

wlis win viwinaswarmetyvele da asrulda.

oRond mTavari jer winaa. winaswarmetyvelebis

Tanaxmad, àxali sityva~ unda SeiZinos

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis prezidentma!

esec warsulSi vTqvi da asec iqneba.

am etapze ki Zalian mZlavr da farTo,

TiTqmis wlis bolomde gaWimul sareklamo

kampanias iwyeben amerikelebi. mzaddeba

videorgoli, romelic itrialebs internetiTac

da televiziiTac. Cemi àxali

sityva~ martSi londonis wignis auqcionze

gaaqvT. amis Semdeg waradgenen axlad

gamocemuli wignebis gamofena-gayidvaze niuiorkSi,

romelic erTi Tve gagrZeldeba.

didi kampania iqneba CineTSic, germaniaSic

da sxva qveynebSic. mokled, wigni mTel

msoflioSi gaiyideba. erTi sityviT, yvelaferi

kargadaa am mxriv, magram me mainc

guli mwydeba... mindoda es procesi Cemi

samSoblodan dawyebuliyo.

lela kakulia

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