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14 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />
`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria<br />
mwerali merab SaTiriSvili.<br />
_ batono merab, Tqven `qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis~ delegati iyaviT,<br />
aqtiurad monawileobdiT<br />
batoni ivaniSvilis partiis<br />
dafuZnebaSi da ucbad sxva mxares<br />
gaisma Tqveni saxeli, agvixseniT,<br />
ra xdeba?<br />
_ me vfiqrob, rom miSa saakaSvilis<br />
winaaRmdeg brZola<br />
konstituciuri gziT, es aris<br />
TiToeuli qarTvelis movaleoba.<br />
ra dros CaerTveba am<br />
brZolaSi, amas mniSvneloba ar<br />
aqvs, yvela Cvengani unda iyos<br />
jariskaci. sad iqneba is, ivaniSvilis<br />
koaliciaSi, gverdze,<br />
mxarSi, iqneba TvalsaCino saxe<br />
Tu ara, mniSvneloba ar aqvs,<br />
mTavaria, monawileoba miiRo<br />
saerTo miznisTvis brZolaSi.<br />
amJamad, aqtiurad var Cabmuli<br />
`kavkasiis helsinkis jgufTan~.<br />
cnobisaTvis, 30 aprils Catardeba,<br />
ase vTqvaT, erovnuli<br />
Tavyriloba `erovnulebis~ saxelwodebiT.<br />
_ ra iqneba `erovnulebi~,<br />
moZraoba?<br />
_ jerjerobiT es iqneba sazogadoebrivi<br />
moZraoba, romelic<br />
mxars dauWers arCevnebis<br />
gziT xelisuflebis Secvlas<br />
da `qarTul ocnebasTan~ erTad<br />
Seecdeba daamTavros arsebuli<br />
reJimi saqarTveloSi.<br />
me vfiqrob, rom nebismieri<br />
sazogadoebrivi gaerTianeba,<br />
nebismieri jgufi, Tuki is namdvilad<br />
saqarTvelos Tavisuflebaze<br />
fiqrobs, am brZolaSi<br />
unda Caebas. arcaa saWiro da-<br />
Zaxeba _ `modi, Cems gverdze<br />
dadeqi~, Tavisi SexedulebiT<br />
Tavisi wili aguri unda dados<br />
axali saqarTvelos mSeneblobaSi.<br />
me TviT imitom movedi `erovnulebTan~,<br />
rom, vfiqrob,<br />
Cemi gamosvlebiT, Cemi mentalitetiT,<br />
Cemi moqalaqeobiT<br />
da Cemi qarTvelobiT swored<br />
iq vdgavar, sadac nebismieri<br />
qarTuli ojaxi. dameTanxmebiT,<br />
albaT, rom nebismier qarTul<br />
ojaxSi Rvivis erovnuli suliskveTeba.<br />
patara magaliTs<br />
getyviT, proeqt `niWierebSi~<br />
xuloelma mamakacma<br />
da, Tu ar vcdebi, lentexelma<br />
qalbatonma gaimarjves<br />
qarTuli simReriT,<br />
momdevno wels gurjaanelma<br />
ymawvilma, Jiuris<br />
ar gadauwyvetia maTi gamarjveba,<br />
maT erma misca xma.<br />
amiT imis Tqma minda, rom<br />
mTvlemare erovnuli muxti,<br />
romelic TiTqmis yvela ojax-<br />
Sia, gasaRvivebeli, asabrialebeli<br />
da gareT gamosatania.<br />
dameTanxmebiT, rom oci welia<br />
ukve, erovnuli suliskve-<br />
Teba saqarTveloSi, erovnuli<br />
principebi da erovnuli idea<br />
gamoketilia uxilav seifSi.<br />
albaT, imaSic dameTanxmebiT,<br />
rom erovnuloba politikuri<br />
ambiciebisTvis gankuTvnili<br />
`bliudosaviT~ gaxda. rogorc<br />
calke kerZi, daTreuli aqvs,<br />
rogorc xelisuflebas, aseve<br />
calkeul politikur<br />
gaerTianebebs, magram,<br />
faqtiurad, xdeba erovnulobis<br />
Segnebuli<br />
diskreditacia.<br />
_ sityvas gawyvetinebT,<br />
magram unda vTqva,<br />
faqtia, rom qarTul<br />
realobaSi sityva `sam-<br />
Soblo~ amovarda metyvelebidan<br />
da Caenacvla<br />
sityva `qveyana~...<br />
_ amazea saubari,<br />
rom TiTqos erovnuloba,<br />
samSoblo, yvelaferi<br />
qarTulis xseneba<br />
sircxvili gaxda. TiTqos<br />
arsebobs masze didi<br />
civilizacia, rogoricaa<br />
`vefxistyaosani~,<br />
an Tundac guramiSvili,<br />
an ilia WavWavaZis<br />
ideebi, romelic gagr-<br />
Zelda gasuli saukunis 90-ian<br />
wlebSi. Cven viciT, rom erovnul<br />
moZraobaSi iseTi liderebi<br />
iyvnen, romlebmac ganaxorcieles<br />
kidec garkveul periodSi<br />
erovnuli idea, _ eseni<br />
iyvnen zviad gamsaxurdia da merab<br />
kostava. mere, viciT, rac<br />
moxda, zviad gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis<br />
damxoba, rasac<br />
mohyva ilias gzis Caxergva,<br />
erovnuli ideebis diskreditacia<br />
da raRac CarCoebSi moqceva.<br />
moxda adamianebis dayofa<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
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30 maiss erovnuli<br />
gamoRviZebis zarebi<br />
unda davarisxoT<br />
`SevardnaZistebad~, `zviadistebad~,<br />
mxedrionelebad~, patar-patara<br />
jgufebad da jabasa<br />
da SevardnaZis mentalitetis<br />
formatSi gadaiyvanes erovnuli<br />
idea da daukavSires<br />
erT kacs. ra Tqma unda, sisxliT<br />
da xorciT erovnuli iyo<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia, magram ra-<br />
Racnairad, TiTqos samarcxvino<br />
gaxades, TiTqos sazogadoebisgan<br />
ganacalkeves `zviadistebi.~<br />
am dros ra xdeboda? _ nebismieri<br />
arCevnebis dros, swored<br />
am `zviadistebis ~ gareSe<br />
ver igebda arCevnebs vercerTi<br />
politikuri Zala, romelic<br />
wina planze gamovidoda. saWiroebisTvis<br />
raRacnairad gamoiyenebdnen<br />
am Zalas, imitom<br />
rom garkveulwilad isic iZulebuli<br />
iyo, rom Tavisi qveynis<br />
winsvlaSi monawileoba mieRo.<br />
_ magaliTad?<br />
_ magaliTad, saakaSvili<br />
ver movidoda erovnuli Zalebis<br />
gareSe, romelsac Tavad<br />
arqmevdnen `zviadistebs~, gamoiyenes<br />
da datoves motyuebuli.<br />
cxadia, ramdenime adamianis<br />
garda, romelic garewari iyo,<br />
rogorc Cans, zviadis drosac<br />
da swored am garewrebiT moxda<br />
zviadis ideebis da mizandasaxulobis<br />
diskreditacia,<br />
konkretul pirebs ar vexebi,<br />
vgulisxmob maT, vinc amJamad<br />
`nacionalebSi~ arian.<br />
iseTi politikuri viTareba<br />
Seiqmna saqarTveloSi am oci<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi, rom, TiTqos,<br />
erovnuli ideebis matarebeli<br />
xalxi fanatizmSi arian<br />
gadasuli _ isini `zviadistebi~<br />
arian. ara, Cemo kargo, isini<br />
`zviadistebi~ ki ar arian,<br />
isini erovnulebi arian da im<br />
ideis matareblebi, ilias im<br />
gzis gamgrZeleblebi, romel<br />
ideasac Seewira Tavad zviadi.<br />
me vfiqrob, dRes saqarTveloSi<br />
dadga imis dro, rom<br />
Sewydes Cveni mxridan imaze saubari,<br />
rom erovnul-liberalebi<br />
varT. ara, Cemo kargo,<br />
arc liberalizmi da arc arc<br />
erTi politikuri mimarTuleba<br />
erovnulobis gareSe ar ganxorcieldeba.<br />
is, rom Cven qarTvelebi varT,<br />
xmamaRla unda vTqvaT. erovnuli<br />
ideis matarebel xalxs<br />
gverdze unda davudgeT isinic,<br />
romlebmac maSin, nebsiT<br />
Tu uneblied, ver miviReT monawileoba<br />
verc imdroindeli<br />
xelisuflebis mxardasaWerad<br />
da verc mowinaaRmdeged, viyaviT<br />
neitraluri, an adamianebi,<br />
romelTac maSin tyvia ar usvriaT<br />
da ar CaudeniaT danaSauli<br />
qarTveli erisa da saxelmwifos<br />
winaaRmdeg.<br />
dameTanxmebiT, rom mas Semdeg,<br />
rac Cveni erovnuli Rirsebis<br />
damcvelebi Cvenve viqnebiT,<br />
kargi partniorebi aRmov-<br />
CndebiT mezobeli qveynebisTvisac,<br />
evropisa da amerikisTvisac.<br />
Cven Tu Cvens erovnul<br />
Rirsebas da erovnul faseulobebs<br />
ar vufrTxildebiT da<br />
ar vinaxavT, ar vaviTarebT da<br />
ar vaRvivebT, vin varT Cven<br />
rusisTvis, amerikelisTvis Tu<br />
nebismieri sxva qveynisTvis,<br />
TavSi wamosartymelebi? me, magaliTad,<br />
SeiZleba, Turqs vce<br />
pativi pirovnulad, magram veraviTar<br />
SemTxvevaSi ver moviTmen<br />
Cemi aWareli xalxis<br />
erovnulobis Seviwroebis xarjze<br />
aWaraSi Turquli interesis<br />
galaRebas. es ar aris<br />
erovnuloba, es ar aris tolerantizmi,<br />
es ar aris keTilmezobloba<br />
Cveni mxridan _ maT<br />
ras verCiT, sargebloben Cveni<br />
ugunurebiT. roca dainaxavs<br />
igive Turqi, rom Cven varT<br />
Rirseuli, Cveni erovnebis,<br />
tradiciebis, wesebis, rac Segviqmnia<br />
im kulturisa da Rirebulebebis<br />
damcveli, cxadi<br />
gaxdeba, rom pativsacemi eri<br />
varT da maTTvisac gaadvildeba<br />
CvenTan urTierToba. igive<br />
damokidebuleba Seeqmneba nebismier<br />
qveyanas.<br />
Cven Tu Cveni erovnuloba,<br />
marTlmadidebloba, Cveni kultura<br />
ar davicaviT, verasodes<br />
davibrunebT samaCablosa da<br />
afxazeTs. teritoriebiT ar<br />
ganisazRvreba eris myofadoba,<br />
is ganisazRvreba kulturiTa<br />
da misi sulierebiT. Cven<br />
afxaz da os xalxTan erTad<br />
saukuneebi vleweT, gadavleweT<br />
da movediT dRemde. absoluturad<br />
dakargaven isini TavianT<br />
erovnulobas da kargaven ukve,<br />
rac maTi brali ki ara, Cveni<br />
bralia. Cven ver davicaviT Cveni<br />
erovnuloba da amitom ver<br />
davicaviT isini. Cven, qarTvelma<br />
erma ratom SevqmeniT imis<br />
safuZveli, rom osi da afxazi<br />
daecva sxva qveyanas, ruseTs,<br />
es xom Cveni bralia. xom unda<br />
SevignoT, rom maT rusis dasacavi<br />
araferi sWirT! Cems arsebaSi<br />
yovelTvis mjera da yovelTvis<br />
vambob, imitom davkargeT<br />
afxazebi da osebi, rom<br />
Cven davkargeT erovnulobis<br />
dacvis meqanizmi.<br />
saocaria, magram faqtia,<br />
rom raRac sxva Rirebulebebis<br />
pativiscema daviwyeT. televiziiT<br />
vismenT frazas `prioritetulia<br />
inglisuri<br />
ena.~ rogor SeiZleba,<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
romelime ena prioritetuli<br />
iyos, garda<br />
qarTulisa; rogor<br />
SeiZleba saqar-<br />
TveloSi prioritetuli<br />
iyos raime,<br />
garda qarTuli adaT-wesebisa<br />
da qar-<br />
Tuli kulturisa!<br />
yvelafer qarTuls<br />
rom korozia SeuCnda<br />
da ufleba miveciT<br />
Semosuliyo<br />
ucxouri samsala,<br />
swored aman gamoiwvia<br />
afxazebisa da<br />
osebis qarTvelebisgan<br />
mowyveta. isini<br />
Cveni Zmebi arian da<br />
Cven Tu erovnulebi<br />
varT, maTi erovnebac Cveni erovnebis<br />
nawilia da maTi erovnebis<br />
gadarCena Cveni erovnebis<br />
Rirebulebebis gafrTxileba-<br />
Sia.<br />
me, mTeli Cemi arsebiT, mTeli<br />
Cemi SegnebiTa da potencialiT<br />
vdgavar erovnul sawyisebze,<br />
erovnuli ideis ganxorcielebis<br />
rigebSi da minda,<br />
rom mTelma saqarTvelom, Ti-<br />
Toeulma ojaxma gaaRviZos da<br />
gareT gamoitanos masSi arsebuli<br />
mTvlemare erovnuloba.<br />
damTavrda! kovzi nacarSi<br />
unda Cauvardes nebismier Savbnel<br />
Zalas da moispos erovnuli,<br />
Rirseuli adamianebis monaTvla<br />
avadmyofuri formuliT.<br />
qarTvelebi mxolod buxris<br />
win da Caketil oTaxSi<br />
xom ar varT, qarTvelebi unda<br />
viyoT saqarTvelos winaSec,<br />
mezoblebis winaSec da mTeli<br />
msoflios winaSec.<br />
Cveni saubari minda davasrulo<br />
markesis SesaniSnavi<br />
sityvebiT `me vemsaxurebi Cems<br />
samSoblos da ara Cemi samSoblos<br />
mTavrobas!~<br />
maia WeliZe