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#49 (178) � 3-6.XII, 2011 weli � gamodis oTxSabaTs daSabaTs SabaTs � E-mail: saertogazeti@yahoo.com; www.saertogazeti.net � fasi 1 lari

merab SaTiriSvili:

Cven borkilebiT da jaWvebiT varT dabmulni

am xelisuflebis mier da droa, gavTavisufldeT

am samarcxvino mdgomareobidan

`qarTuli ocneba~ CemTvis, rogorc umravlesi

qarTvelisaTvis, esaa gamTlianebuli,

gaZlierebuli,

demokratiuli qveynis

aRmSenebloba

irakli kakabaZe:

vfiqrob, saakaSvils

biZina ivaniSvilis

intervius Semdeg panikis

Seteva daemarTeboda


dimitri lorTqifaniZe:

kiwmariSvili xelisuflebis

dasayrdenia da mas

davalebuli aqvs, rom

`maestrom~ garkveuli

droiT arseboba Sewyvitos

erekle saRliani:

biZina ivaniSvils

mxolod samebis taZari

ar auSenebia _ mis mier

gadarCenili TiToeuli

adamiani gana TiTo

taZari ar aris?!

`batoni erosi

aris televaWari...~


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saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

biZina ivaniSvilze

saqarTvelos prezidentis

pirvel komentars

britanuli gamocema

`ekonomisti~ aqveynebs

biznesmen biZina ivaniSvilTan dakavSirebiT

saqarTvelos prezidentis pirvel

komentars britanuli gamocema “ekonomisti”

aqveynebs.

“ivaniSvili CvenTvis kargicaa, formas

ar dagvakargvinebs”, _ prezident mixeil

saakaSvilis es sityvebi moyvanilia “ekonomistis”

vrcel statiaSi saxelwodebiT

- “gamowveva miSas”.

“swored maSin, rodesac saqarTvelo,

romelmac bolo oci wlis ganamavlobaSi

samoqalaqo omi, revolucia da ruseTTan

samxedro konfliqtic ki gamoiara, normalur

adgils emsgavseboda, misi politika

mosawyenic ki xdeboda, qveynis yvelaze

mdidari da idumalebiT moculi

adamiani xmauriT gamovida politikur

avanscenaze. qarTul sofelSi dabadebulma

ivaniSvilma qoneba ruseTSi daagrova.

2003 wels saqarTveloSi dabrunda, sam-

SobloSi farul qvelmoqmedebas eweoda -

msaxiobebs xelfasebs uxdida, eklesiebs

da muzeumebs restavracias ukeTebda. man

qveynis yvelaze didi sakaTedro taZari

aaSena. mTis mwvervalze wamoWimul mis

cixe-simagres, romelsac arc vertmfrenis

asafreni moedani aklia da patara

CanCqeric ki aqvs, piradi dacvis mcire

armia icavs ise, TiTqos is jeims bondze

gadaRebuli filmis personaJia”, _ wers

“ekonomisti”.

statiaSi naTqvamia, rom saakaSvili

ufro reformatoria, vidre _ demokrati.

“saqarTvelos sasamarTlos Tavisufleba

aklia, policia politizirebulia,

parlamenti mTavrobis nebis Semsrulebelia,

bundovania, vis ekuTvnis mediasaSualebebi

da mTavrobac aratolerantulia

kritikis mimarT. margam, saakaSvilma ar-

Semdgari saxelmwifo aqcia Tanamedrove

qveyanad, romelsac liberaluri ekonomika

da Zlieri sakredito reitingi aqvs.

Tavis mowinaaRmdeges mSvidad uyurebs da

ambobs _ ”ivaniSvili CvenTvis kargicaa,

formas ar dagvakargvinebs”. damkvirveblebic

adastureben, rom saqarTvelos politikas

meti konkurencia sWirdeba, magram

axali ajanyeba ar awyobs”, - aRniSnulia

britanuli gamocemis masalaSi.

`saerTo gazeTi~

mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava

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biZina ivaniSvilis mimarTva telekompania

`maestros~ TanamSromlebisadmi

yuradRebiT vakvirdebi Tqveni

telekompaniis irgvliv ganviTarebul

movlenebs da vxedav, rogor

cdilobs xelisufleba

sxvadasxva avantiuristebis

xeliT mospos Tavisufali

sityvis is naSTebic ki, romelTa

SenarCunebac Tqveni da

Tqveni kolegebis didi Zalisxmevis

Sedegad moxerxda.

kargad gvaxsovs, Tu rogori

dartyma iyo qarTuli sazogadoebisaTvis

„imedis“ ganadgureba

da, aSkaraa, xelisufalma

miiCnia, rom ukve Se-

saZlebelia masirebuli Seteva

mediaze da, beWdur mediasTan

erTad, Tqveni rigic

dadga.

rogorc Cans, man ver gaacnobiera,

rom Tqven gaqvT

is, risi daTrgunvac SeuZlebelia:

Tavisufali sityvisa

da Tqveni profesiuli

Rirsebis erTguleba.

me davuSvi erT-erTi yvelaze

didi Secdoma Cem

cxovrebaSi, rodesac vende

dRevandel xelisufalTa ke-

Til zraxvebs da davxure

me-9 arxi. bevri sxva adamianis

msgavsad, davijere maTi liberaluri

da demokratiuli ritorikis.

am daxurviT uneburad

xeli Sevuwyve damoukidebeli me-

gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.

SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.

informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba

SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.

Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.

registraciis #202375349 �

diis ganadgurebis inerciis gaZlerebas.

rogorc ar unda ganviTardes

movlenebi, Tqven aucileblad gaimarjvebT

da, Sesabamisad, gavimarjvebT

Cven yvela. miuxedavad

imisa, rom xelisufleba yvelanairad

cdilobs gagvityuos samar-

Tlebrivi sivrcidan da yvelafers

akeTebs situaciis dasaZabad.

Cven erTad aucileblad mov-

ZebniT kanonis farglebSi

brZolisa da adamianebamde

Tavisufali sityvis mitanis

saSualebebs.

mSvidad iyaviT da icodeT,

rom Cven yvelani vamayobT

TqveniT. swored,

TqvenisTana adamianebi qmnian

qveynis ukeTes momavals!

biZina

ivaniSvili

biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivnos gancxadeba

biZina ivaniSvili solidarobas ucxadebs telekompania “maestros” Jurnalistebs da miiCnevs,

rom dauSvebelia Jurnalisturi saqmianobisTvis xelis SeSla. dRes saqarTveloSi damoukidebel

medias arsebobisTvis isedac SezRuduli pirobebi gaaCnia da maTi profesiuli saqmianobis

SezRudva kidev ufro daamZimebs arsebul fons.

migvaCnia, rom sazogadoebrivi interesebidan gamomdinare, telekompaniis mauwyebloba Cveul

reJims unda daubrundes, dauyonebliv mieces Jurnalistebs muSaobis gagrZelebis saSualeba,

xolo sadavo sakiTxi gadawydes civilizebuli gziT.

biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivno

`qarTu jgufis~ saxelze Semosuli tvirTebi sabaJo

terminalebSi mizanmimarTulad ziandeba

xelisuflebis zewola “qar-

Tu jgufis” misamarTiT grZeldeba.

sistematiuri xasiaTi miiRo

ukve sabaJo terminalze “qarTu

jgufis” saxelze Semosuli

tvirTebis dazianebam. dazianebulia

“qarTu jgufisTvis” iseTi

aRiarebuli brendebis mier gamogzavnili

saqoneli, rogorebicaa-

“Blu innovation”, “Crown”,

“Harman”, “BSS” da a.S. msgavs

faqtebs adgili aqvs im qarTuli

kompaniebTan mimarTebaSic, romlebsac

xelSekrulebis safuZvelze

“qarTu jgufisTvis” msgavsi

saxis audio-video teqnika CamoaqvT.

maT Soris aris “panasonikis”

oficialuri warmomadgeneli

saqarTveloSi S.p.s. “indenti”.

garda amisa, gvinda gacnoboT,

rom dResac uamravi tvirTia ga-

Cerebuli sabaJoze, rogorc “qar-

Tu jgufSi” Semavali organiza-

ciebis kuTvnili, ise maTTvis specialurad

kontraqtori qarTuli

kompaniebis mier Camotanili. Sesabamisad,

grZeldeba ZviradRirebuli

teqnikis mizanmimarTulad

dazianeba.

eWvs imis Taobaze, rom teqnikis

dazianeba xdeba gamiznulad,

aZlierebs is faqtic, rom “qar-

Tu jgufis” saxelze Semosuli

tvirTebis gaxsna da detaluri

Semowmeba xorcieldeba calmxrivad,

dainteresebuli mxaris warmomadgenlebis

Tandaswrebis gare-

Se.

Semosuli tvirTebis umravlesoba

grantis statusis mqone saqonelia

da gankuTvnilia Semdegi

saqvelmoqmedo proeqtebisTvis: -

franguli skola, Tbilisis saxelmwifo

universiteti, operisa

da baletis Teatri, saCxeris regionis

skolebi, TumaniSvilis saxelobis

Teatri, saCxeris saavad-

myofo, boriTis emerjensi, j. kaxiZis

musikaluri centri, natanebis

sakoncerto darbazi, ragbis

stadionebi, yumisTavis mRvime,

sargavi masalis erovnuli centri

da a.S.

bolo erTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi

Semosuli tvirTebis 100% moxvda

e.w. wiTel derefanSi, anu gaiara

detaluri Semowmeba, maSin

rodesac wina periodSi msgavsi

tipis gaZlierebuli Semowmebis

faqti 5-10% iyo.

aRvniSnavT, rom “qarTu jguf-

Si” Semavali kompaniebi saqmianobas

axorcieleben kanonmdeblobis

sruli dacviT da arc erT maTgans

ar aReniSneba sabaJo wesis

darRvevis faqti.

aRniSnuli problemebis Seswavla

da masze reagireba “qarTu

jgufis” generalurma direqtorma

nodar javaxiSvilma.

am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

ramdenime dRis win msaxiobma

soso jaWvlianma, sportsmenma

luka kurtaniZem da mweralma

merab SaTiriSvilma uprecedento

aqcia Caatares. mxrebze

dadebuli rkinis jaWvebiT fexiT

iares quTaisidan Tbilisamde.

ra iyo am uCveulo aqciis

mizani? `saerTo gazeTs~ merab

SaTiriSvili esaubra:

_ aqcias, pirobiTad, SeiZleba

ewodos `gelaTidan samebamde~,

ratom gelaTidan? am adgilas,

didi daviT aRmaSeneblis

saflavze saakaSvilma fici dado,

rom is iqneboda demokratiis

amSenebeli, humanisti, qveynis

gamaerTianebeli, xalxisTvis

Tavdadebuli prezidenti. es fici

darCa mxolod sityvebad.

daviT aRmaSenebeli aris Cveni

_ qarTvelebis arsebobis simbolo,

Cveni erovnuli namusi da

fics rom ityvi mis saflavTan,

im fics unda Seakvde kaci.

saubedurod, gelaTis taZris

es uwmindesi adgili _ daviT

aRmaSeneblis saflavi dRes

saakaSvilis gamo sircxvilis

laqad gveqca _ Cven wamovediT

laCrobidan, tyuilad dadebuli

ficidan, wminda mefis saflavis

siwmindiT gaZlierebulni samebis

eklesiamde, romelic kargi

qarTveli kacis aSenebulia.

_ e.i. ivaniSvilis mxardasa-

Weri aqcia gamarTeT?

_ Cemo kargo, rasac axorcielebs

ivaniSvilis mimarT saakaSvilis

Zaladobrivi xelisufleba,

es qarTveli xalxis

winaaRmdeg mimarTuli qmedebaa.

rogori damokidebulebac aqvs

xelisuflebas biZina ivaniSvilis

mimarT, zustad igive damokidebuleba

aqvs Cvens, anu ubralo

qarTveli adamianebis mimarT.

ivaniSvili ar aris

CemTvis kulti, magram

yvelam gaiazros, warmoidginos

sakuTari

Tavi ivaniSvilis mdgomareobaSi

da mixvdeba,

rom masac aravin dazogavs

gansxvavebuli azris

gamo. Cven borkilebiT

da jaWvebiT

varT dabmuli am xelisuflebis

mier da

Cvens yovel iniciativas,

protests, gamosvlas

mxolod jaWvis

JRarunis efeqti aqvs

da Sedegs ver vaRwevT.

mTeli gza quTaisidan Tbilisamde

fexiT, mxrebze garkveuli

simZimis jaWvebiT viareT.

es iyo Cveni monobis, borkildadebulobis

simboluri niSani.

amiT sazogadoebas mivaniSneT,

rom monobas unda hqondes dasasruli

da Tu saWiro iqneba,

quCaSic unda gamovideT, roca

es qveynis keTildReobas das-

Wirdeba. sazogadoebas ratom-

Rac hgonia, rom mxolod da

mxolod xelmowerebiT, anabrebis

SetaniT wydeba problema. es

yvelaferi kargia, magram ara

sakmarisi. Cven unda mivaRwioT

imas, rom daubrundes moqalaqeoba

biZina ivaniSvils, Tundac

amisTvis quCaSi gamosvla dagv-

Wirdes. es ara mxolod biZina

ivaniSvils, aramed Cven, TiToeul

qarTvels gvWirdeba. Cven

unda gavakeToT es, magram calcalke

gagviWirdeba _ biZina

ivaniSvilic unda movides xalxTan,

radgan xelisufleba ukan

araferze daixevs da misTvis

Cveuli meTodebiT ecdeba ivaniSvilis

Seviwroebasa da bolos

diskreditaciasac. me adrec

vambobdi, rom xelisufleba

mas gasaqans ar miscems, SezRudavs-meTqi

da xom xedavT, yvelaferi

saxezea. biZina ivaniSvils

movuwodeb _ mivides xalxTan,

xalxis siRrmeSi, maT

gulSi Caixedos, Sexvdes ubralo

adamianebs, imaTgan ufro

mets gaigebs, vidre mrCevlebisgan,

an presa _ radio-televiziisgan.

xalxi daSinebulia, daTrgunuli,

magram is mainc SeZlebs

biZina ivaniSvilisTvis, rogorc

qarTuli ZalisTvis mxardaWeras.

yvelas gvaxsovs, 26

maiss rac moxda. luka

kurtaniZes sastikad

scemes, faqtobrivad,

sasikvdilod gaimetes

adamiani. soso jaWvliani

cixeSi gamoketes

da SimSilis protestzec

ki ar hqoniaT

araviTari reagireba,

26 maiss qaSueTis win

mec mcemes, magram Cven

gamovediT, mainc movnaxeT

Cvens TavSi Zala da

SiSs vZlieT, davanaxeT

yvelas, rom saakaSvilis

zonderebis Cven

ar gveSinia.

kargad gvaxsovs 26 maisi,

magram es ver SegvaSinebs. im

dRes iq xalxi daixoca. megobrebo,

nu SegveSineba sikvdilis,

ra hqvia aseT sicocxles,

Cven rom gvaqvs

axla, am saSineli

diqtaturis da usamarTlobis

pirobeb-

Si?! dgeba xolme cxovrebaSi

iseTi momenti,

roca adamianis sico-

cxle mxolod axloblebs

ar ekuTvnis. sicocxle

ekuTvnis RmerTs

da samSoblos da

arc erTis da arc meoresTvis

sicocxle ar

unda gvenanebodes.

_ geTanxmebiT, magram

Tavganwirvas yvelas

ver mosTxov. ai,

magaliTad, axla Tqven

Tavisuflad ver dadixarT,

ver moZraobT,

merab SaTiriSvili:

Cven borkilebiT da jaWvebiT

varT dabmulni am xelisuflebis

mier da droa, gavTavisufldeT

am samarcxvino mdgomareobidan

Cven unda mivaRwioT imas, rom daubrundes

moqalaqeoba biZina ivaniSvils, Tundac

amisTvis quCaSi gamosvla dagvWirdes!

bevri, politikur, opozicias

vgulisxmob,

mxolod simboluri

aqciisTvis, Cemi azriT,

ar gamoivlida amxela

gzas fexiT...

marTlac sakmaod Zneli iyo

am gzis fexis gavla. mTeli gza

ganuwyvetliv Tovda, cioda.

mxrebze jaWvis simZimem Tavisi

gaitana, luka da soso sportsmenebi

arian, magram me vexumrebodi,

Tqvenze naklebi arc me

var, mTaSi var dabadebuli da

gazrdili da bevr ramesac avitan-meTqi.

opozicias rac Seexeba,

Tqven sworad SeniSneT, magaT

undaT koxtad gamoewyon kostumebsa

da halstuxSi, dadgnen

rusTavelis moedanze da mimar-

Ton 200 000 kacs, mere daayvedrian,

galanZRaven da TavianT

Secdomebs maT gadaabraleben.

Cven gamovxateT protesti

usamarTlobaze, rac xdeba qveyanaSi,

usamarTlo mkvlelobaze,

darbevebze, gamovxateT protesti

ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqeobis

CamorTmevaze, magram kaciSvils,

arc erTi opoziciuri

partiis warmomadgenels am protestisadmi

solidaroba ar gamoucxadebia.

_ batono merab, rogoria

Tqveni azri biZina ivaniSvilis

satelevizio interviuze, romelic

telekompania `maestroze~

Sedga?

_am gamosvliT kidev er-

Txel damtkicda, rom biZina ivaniSvili

aris saocari adamiani,

magram unda vTqva, rom axla, am

etapze aucilebelia batoni bi-

Zina gaxdes ufro frTxili da

amave dros operatiuli im

brZolaSi, romelic saakaSvilma

wamoiwyo mis winaaRmdeg, politikaSi

mosvlis gancxadebis

Semdeg.

_ telekompania `maestroSi~

arasaxarbielo movlenebi ganvi-

Tarda meore dRes, rac iq ivaniSvili

mivida pirdapir eTerSi

sasaubrod. am or faqts Soris,

Tqveni azriT, raime kavSiri SeiZleba

arsebobdes?

_ ra Tqma unda, aq arsebobs

pirdapiri kavSirebi. `maestro-

Si~ momxdari ambebi 2012 wels

arCevnebs ukavSirdeba da mimar-

Tulia biZina ivaniSvilis saagitacio

manqanis sawinaaRmdegod.

_ situaciis gansjisTvis

rom vimsjeloT, ras fiqrobT,

ra ganviTareba SeiZleba hqondes

am incidents?

_ Tqven iciT, rom sozar saubarma

datova `qarTuli partia~.

irakli oqruaSvili saqarTveloSi

fexs ver daadgams, sanam

`nacionalebi~ aq iqnebian. darCa

erosi, romelic caitnotSi aRmoCnda

da am dros telekompania

`maestro~, ivaniSvilisken ixreba.

kiwmariSvili ivaniSvilisTvis

miuRebelia. amitom is cdilobs

Tavisi saxelSekrulebo

uflebebi gamoiyenos da ar dar-

Ces TamaSgare mdgomareobaSi.

me vfiqrob, xelisuflebam

kargad Seafasa kiwmariSvilis

situacia da gaurigda mas. dRes

erosi kiwmariSvili cdilobs

`maestro~ xelSi Caigdos da

Rlonti da misi jgufi iqedan

gaaZevos.

Rlonts kiwmariSvili iqidan

gaagdebs. dava gadainacvlebs

sasamarTloSi. sasamarTlo ganxilvebi

arCevnebamde gaiweleba

da mere ra gadawyvetilebac iqneba,

amas kiwmariSvilisTvis ukve

araviTari mniSvneloba ara

aqvs.

ase rom, es aris urTierTgarigeba

da yvelaferi dResaviT

naTelia. erosis xeliT xdeba

`imedi-2~- is Camoyalibeba.

iranda kalandaZe


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4 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

mas mere, rac telekompania

„maestros“ damfuZnebelma sab-

Wom erosi kiwmariSvilis wasvlis

gadawyvetileba miiRo,

mTvarma damfinansebelma da mediasaSualebebis

marTvis kompaniis

warmomadgenelma ganacxada,

rom arsad wasvlas ar

apirebs da protesti 30 noembers

diliT telekompaniis

ezos Robeze gadaZromiT gamoxata.

amis Semdeg kiwmariSvili

televiziis Senobis pirvel

sarTulze gamagrda, mamuka

Rlonti - meoreze.

kiwmariSvilis aseTi moqmedeba

gamaognebeli da moulodneli

iyo sazogadoebisTvis,

televiziis SenobasTan dRisiT

gamoCndnen telekompaniis

mxardamWerebi, moqalaqeebi,

politikosebi, romlebic kiwmariSvils

provocirebaSi, te-

leviziis saqmianobaSi uxeS CarevaSi

adanaSaulebdnen da solidarobas

ucxadebdnen „maestros“

koleqtivs da kerZod

televiziis erTerT damfuZnebels

mamuka Rlonts, romelic

batonma kiwmariSvilma samsaxuridan

daiTxova.

miuxedavad situaciiis simwvavisa,

dRis meore naxevarSi

telekompaniis mimdebare teritoriaze

xalxmravloba aRar

SeiniSneboda, ZiriTadad, televiziisa

da presis Jurnalistebi

iyvnen. aseve teritoriaze

gamoCndnen koalicia

„axalgazrdebi samarTliani

cvlilebebisTvis“ wevrebi,

romlebic mxardaWeras ucxadebdnen

telekompanias, Jurnalistebs

da erosi kiwmariSvilisgan

moiTxovdnen daetovebina

Senoba. maT kedlebze gaakres

plakatebi da moawyves

saprotesto aqcia.

zaza TvaraZe, moZraoba

„axalgazrdoba samarTliani

cvlilebebisTvis“ erT-erTi

xelmZRvaneli: „yvelas gvaxsovs,

rom erosi kiwmariSvilma

Seqmna „rusTavi-2“ da xelisuflebaSi

moiyvana mixeil

saakaSvili. „maestro“ is telekompaniaa,

romelic im Sem-

TxvevaSi, Tu TiToeul CvenTagans

raime mogviva, dagvicavs

da gaaJRerebs informacias.

Cven gvaqvs maestros imedi. Tu

saakaSvilis da merabiSvilis

zonderjgufebi gagvitaceben,

maestro mova da dagvicavs.

Cven ver viqnebiT „kavkasiisa“

da mwoliare aqubardias imedze.

gamobrZandnen es naZirala

politikosebi da datovon televizia,

sxvagan gaarkvion TavianTi

problemebi da ara

Cvens xarjze. baton erosis

mivmarTav, gamobrZandes da sa-

Sualeba misces Jurnalistebs,

imauwyeblon Tavisuflad. winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi, Cvenc gadavZvrebiT

Robeze da gamovabrZanebT

baton erosis.“

giorgi faresiSvili,

moZraoba „axalgazrdebi samar-

Tliani cvlilebebisTvis“ wevri:

„kiwmariSvili saakaSvilis

ideologia da agrZelebs am

ideologias. igi telekompania

maestros ambavs gadayveba politikur

samareSi. batoni

erosi aris televaWari.. is axla

axorcielebs igives, rac

Caidines merabiSvilis zonderbrigadebma

„imedSi“

luba eliaSvili, Jurnalisti:

„yvela adamians Tavisi

bediswera aqvs da erosi

kiwmariSvilis bediswera gax-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.net

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

`batoni erosi

aris televaWari...~

lavT is, rom Zalian iolad

aRmoCndeba xolme borotebis

mxares. dResac is aris im mxareze,

sadac patiosani da moazrovne

moqalaqe ar unda idges.

is ambavi, rom politikuri

partiis lideri Tavis Tavze

iRebs da axorcielebs direqtoris

ufleba-movaleobas,

(rac miuRebelia televiziisTvis)

- niSnavs, rom igi Tama-

Sobs xelisuflebis binZur

TamaSs“.

30 noembers mdgomareoba

ucvleli darCa. 1 dekembers

daigegma aqcia erosi kiwmariSvilis

winaaRmdeg. jer kidev

dRis 2 saaTze situacia ucvleli

iyo. gayinul-gadaRlili

Jurnalistebi Cumi SeZaxilebiT

_ gvSia! gvciva! elodebodnen

mdgomareobis garkvevas

da mTavari moqmedi pirebis Senobidan

gamosvlas. es survili

masmedias erosi kiwmariSvilma

Seusrula. igi gamovida

televiziis ezoSi da Sexvda

Jurnalistebs sakmaod mSvidi

da Tavdajerebuli saxiT.

„Cven diliT gavakeTeT gancxadeba

marTvis kompaniis saxeliT,

- ganacxada batonma

erosim, - rom aJiotaJi, romelic

arsebobs maestros irgvliv

ar unda gaxdes JurnalistebisTvis

xelis SeSlis mizezi.

Sesabamisad am dapirispirebis

gagrZelebam SeiZleba gamoiwvios

sainformacio saSualebebis

kolafsi. diliTve Sev-

Tavaze damfuZneblebs, rom

moixsnas blokireba, jer mamukam

datovos teritoria, raTa

Semdgom davsxdeT molaparakebis

magidasTan. me mqonda ramodenime

warmomadgenelTan Sexvedra

da saubari. Cven vmoZraobT

swori mimarTulebiT. vsaubrobT

pirobebis daaxloebaze,

me mqonda Cemi moTxovnebi,

maT aqvT TavianTi pozicia.

mTavaria aRdges srulfasovani

mauwyebloba da moixsnas blokireba.

CemTvis miuRebelia is

azri, rom viTom xelisufleba

dainteresebulia am procesebiT.

es ar aris inspirirebuli

xelisuflebis mxridan.“

yvelaze yuradsaRebi is

gaxldaT, rom Robeebze

mZromiale da alpinizmis

gamocdilebis mqone politikosma

gamosvla daasrula

sityvebiT: „me

yovelTvis civiluri

formebis momxre var da

dRemde yvelafers vakeTeb

rom civilizeburi formiT

gadawydes es problema.“

Cven aseve gavesaubreT

aqciaze myof baton la-

Sa CxartiSvils: - batono

laSa, Tqveni azriT

procesebi logikurad mivida

amgvar Sedegamde Tu

raime movlenam moaxdina provocireba?

- faqti erTia: saqarTveloSi

media Zalian mZime mdgomareobaSia.

erosi kiwmariSvili

am procesSi nebiT Tu

uneblied CaerTo. me ar vici

maTi pretenziebi, urTierTobis

detalebi, magram miuRebe-

lia forma, romelic gamoyenebuli

iqna am pretenziebTan

mimarTebaSi. upirveles yovlisa,

saubaria eTeris gaTiSvaze,

JurnalistebisTvis xelis

SeSlaze. pretenziebis mogva-

rebisTvis arsebobs civiluri

formebi. aseTi mdgomareobis

Seqmna pirvel rigSi awyobs

xelisuflebas. mis intereseb-

Sia rac SeiZleba naklebi Tavisufali

media iyos saqarTveloSi

da Tavisufali sityvis

bolo mohikanebad gadaiqcnen

is xalxi da media-gjufebi,

romlebic arian dRes qveyana-

Si.aranaklebi situaciaa presasTan

mimarTebaSi, masze Setevis

axali talRa daiwyo,

SeiZleba axlo momavalSi gazeTebi

verc viyidoT. danarCen

detalebs rac Seexeba, kidev

erTxel minda visurvo, rom es

konfliqti mogvardes molaparakebiT

da kidev erTxel gamovucxado

solidaroba maestros

Jurnalistebs. diliT movismine,

rom Rlontma daafiqsira

mzadyofna miiRos monawileoba

molaparakebebSi im Sem-

TxvevaSi, Tu moxdeba im status

qvos aRdgena romelic am

movlenebamde iyo. imedia, rom

SeTanxmebamde mivlen da mTavaria

„maestro’ gadarCes. masmedia

rom ara, saakaSvils gacilebiT

meti xalxi eyoleboda

daxocili, dapatimrebuli da

gamwarebuli. media aris umTavresi

modaraje da aferxebs xelisuflebis

Zaladobas“

dRisiT dagegmili aqcia

sastvenebis TanxlebiT ganxorcielda

magram Sedegi ar mohyolia.

saRamomde movlenebi

erTferovnad gagrZelda. mogvianebiT

ki irkveva, rom molaparakebebma

Sedegi ar gamoiRo,

SeTanxmeba ar Sedga, mamuka

Rlontma datova teritoria,

ganacxada rom sasamarTloSi

apirebs brZolis gagrZelebas

da gaemarTa radio „maestrosken“,

sadac aRdga telemauwyeblobac.

mamuka Rlontis

TqmiT mas acnobes rom saSualeba

eqneboda eTerSi gasuliyo.

ras ukavSirdeba es yvelaferi

- mmarTvel gundebs Soris

gaugebrobas, ambiciebs, xelisuflebis

mxridan opoziciur

televiziaze Setevas Tu

am movlenebamde erTi dRiT

adre „maestros“ eTerSi gasul

biZina ivaniSvilis intervius,

es jerjerobiT ucnobia

da albaT farTo sazogadoeba

axlo momavalSi gaigebs. gagr-

Zeleba iqneba. . .

Tamuna qadagiZe


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

gvesaubreba poeti erekle

saRliani::

_ batono erekle, biZina ivaniSvilis

gancxadebam politika-

Si axali realoba Seqmna. Tqveni

Sefaseba am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT?

_ Cveni politikuri speqtri

yovelTvis erTferovani iyo,

rac yvelaze didi ubedurebaa.

yoveli axali, politikuri Zalis

gamoCenas sixaruliT vxvdebi

imitom, rom rac ufro mravalferovneba

iqneba, miT ufro

Cqara movalT gons. bolos da

bolos mivxvdebiT ra gzas unda

davadgeT, ra unda vakeToT da

ra gvinda, rac jerjerobiT ar

viciT. biZina ivaniSvilis politikaSi

mosvlas, ra Tqma unda

dadebiTad vafaseb. gza gasavlelia.

rac ufro swrafad gavivliT,

miT ukeTesi. meore _ yvelam

kargad viciT rogor movida

biZina ivaniSvili politikaSi,

man samebis taZari aaSena. garda

amisa, rom ara igi, suli amox-

debodaT adamianebs. mesamec _ Cemi

azri aseTia, aramgonia batoni

biZina politikaSi mosvlaze

iklavdes Tavs, an prezidentobaze.

me ufro mgonia, mas surs

qveyanaSi normaluri politikuri

Zala Seqmnas.

_ axlaxan batonma biZinam

telekompania `maestros~ misca

interviu, ra STabeWdileba dagrCaT?

_ am interviuSi gamoCnda,

rom rasakvirvelia igi sruliad

axali, gansxvavebuli saxea politikur

asparezze. es scdeba

im Sablons, rac sxva danarCen

politikosebs axasiaTebT. mas

adamianebTan urTierTobis udidesi

gamocdileba gaaCnia. fulis

Sovnis mravali gza arsebobs.

batonma biZinam es swored

Wkua-sazrianobiT moaxerxa, mas

uaRresad gamWriaxi goneba aqvs.

meore sakiTxia, Tu rogor gamovlindeba

es politikaSi. Tavdapirvelad,

roca igi bizness

iwyebda, xom ar hqonda is gamocdileba,

rac dRes aqvs, magram

umaRles mwvervalebs miaRwia.

amiT imis Tqma minda, rom yvelafers

dro sWirdeba. erTs getyviT,

dRes, Cven aseT mdgomareobaSi

varT _ rogorc galaktionis

leqsSia _`yovelmxriv sivrce

iyo, Svela ki arsaidan~ _

sivrce sCans, magram Svela arsaidan

ar modis. nurc imas ifiqrebs

vinme, rom Cveni Zalisxmevis

gareSe qveyanas rame eSveleba.

modiT, nu gadavabarebT pasuxismgeblobas

mxolod erT kacs,

codvaa es erTi kaci. zviad gam-

saxurdia, pirvel rigSi misma

garemocvam daRupa. gainteresebT

rogor? _ TviTon yovelgvar pasuxismgeblobas

ixsnidnen da

mxolod gamsaxurdias unda aeRo

yvelaferi sakuTar Tavze. yvelam

Tavisi saqme akeTos da, ra

Tqma unda maSin qveynis gadarCenac

ufro advili iqneba. rac

mTavaria, qarTvelma xalxma sabolood

uari unda vTqvaT kerpTTayvanismcemlobaze.

sanam kerpi

gvyavs, araferi gveSveleba. am

fonze, sasixaruloa, rom gamoCnda

axali saxe aramarto politikaSi,

aramed urTierTobaSic.

_ rogor fiqrobT, is imedis

naperwkali, rac biZina ivaniSvili

politikaSi gamoCenam xalx-

Si gaaCnia, xom ar minavlda?

_ aramgonia naperwkali minavlebuliyo,

ubralod, es iciT

ras hgavs? _ talRa rom aiyalyeba,

aRmasvlas yovelTvis daRma

svla sdevs. amas miCumebas ver

davarqmev, es politikaSi Cveulebrivi

movlenaa imitom, rom

mudmiv daZabulobas adamiani ver

uZlebs. mere Cndeba sulis

moTqmis momenti. axla aseTi

situaciaa _ erTma talRam

ukve Caiara da meore unda

wamovides.

_ biZina ivaniSvili civiluri,

arCevnebis gziT apirebs

xelisuflebaSi mosvlas.

Tqveni azriT, ramdenad

aris es sazogadoebis

moTxovna da SenarCundeba Tu

ara muxti, rac batoni biZinas

gamoCenas Tan axlda?

_ cota Znelia amis Tqma, politikaSi

Rrmad ar var Caxeduli

rigiTi gulSematkivris poziciidan

SemiZlia vTqva _ ra

Tqma unda civiluri formiT unda

moxdes xelisuflebis Secvla.

ukve meramdened avirCieT xe-

lisufleba quCaSi. quCaSi arCeuli

xelisufleba verasodes

moutans sikeTes qveyanas getyviT

ratom xdeba ase _ araprofesionalebisgan

Seqmnil politikuri

dajgufebas erovnuli

gancdisa da grZnobis nakleboba

daemata. imitom, rom ra saxelic

ar unda dairqva, arsiT Tu sxva

xar, araferi gamova. aviRoT `nacionaluri

moZraoba~. terminSi

`nacionaluri~ bevri sxva ramesac

xedavs me piradad qarTuli,

madliani qarTuli sityva erovnuli

mirCevnia. erovnuli mowodebiT,

cxovrebis wesiT unda

iyo, Torem ras dairqmev amas

mniSvneloba ar aqvs.

_ batono erekle, weRan axseneT

pasuxismgebloba erT adamians

ar unda avkidoTo. prezidentma

ivaniSvils moqalaqeoba

CamoarTva, misTvis moqalaqeobis

dabrunebaze pasuxismgebloba sazogadoebam

ar unda aviRoT?

_ adamians moqalaqeoba CamoarTva,

amaze didi ususuroba ar

arsebobs. etyoba xelisufalTa

mrCevlebic ar gamoirCevian maRali

azrovnebis unariT. ufro

ukeTesi saqme, rasac xelisufleba

Tavisi qcevebiT ivaniSvils

ukeTebs, ar vici ra SeiZleba

iyos. bolos mainc iZulebulni

iqnebian baton biZinas moqalaqeoba

daubrunon. mTavroba ivaniSvilisgan

devnilis, wamebulis

saxes qmnis. Wkviani xelisufleba

ase namdvilad ar moiqceva,

aramed Wkvianuri xerxebiT SeebrZoleba,

rasac ver vxedav.

_ batono erekle, iqmneba samuSao

jgufebi, romlebic qveynisTvis

prioritetuli sxvadasxva

mimarTulebeze imuSaveben,

ra azris xarT amaze?

saerTo gazeTi

biZina ivaniSvils mxolod samebis

taZari ar auSenebia _ mis mier

gadarCenili TiToeuli adamiani

gana TiTo taZari ar aris?!

_ samuSao jgufebis Seqmna

cudi ar aris, magram misi dakompleqtebaa

urTulesi. imitom,

rom Tu yvelgan araprofesionalebma

moiyares Tavi, samwuxarod,

aseT SemTxvevaSi mxolod

im informacias miiReb, rasac mogawvdian.

ramdenad iqneba es mowodebuli

informacia myari? _

Zalian Znelia, urTulesia erTi

adamiani gawvdes yvelafers. aseT

SemTxvevaSi, erTi rCeva meqneba,

samuSao jgufebis Seqmnis dros

medrove adamianebze ar moxdes

dayrdnoba, anu im xalxze yvela

xelisuflebaSi kargad rom

grZnobdnen Tavs da amave dros

saocari ynosviT grZnoben xelisuflebis

CaZirvas da maleve

sxva banakSi aRmoCndebian. xalxsac

aRizianebs ukve aseTi admianebi.

ar SeiZleba erTi da igive

adamiani gmoZRvravdes da meorec,

dRes termini cnobadi saxe saqarTveloSi

samarcxvino gaxda

imitom, rom yvelam kargad viciT,

vin arian es cnobadi saxeebi.

_ erT kviraSi sazogadoebrivi

moZraoba `qarTuli ocneba~

fuZndeba. ra molodinebi gaqvT

am kuTxiT?

_ rogorc zemoT mogaxseneT,

yvela politikuri Zalis mosvlas

mivesalmebi. im adamianebs,

romlebmac am mZime periodSi

amindi Seqmnes, gansakuTrebiT

xelovnebaSi, ivaniSvilma saSualeba

misca earsebaT maT, rogorc

ojaxebs _ es Zalian didi

ramaa. vfiqrob, es iyo yvelaze

didi politika.

_ rodesac batoni biZina politikaSi

movida, man amis mizezi

Semdegnairad axsna _ roca

mixvda, rom samSoblo ekareboda,

misi dabruneba gadawyvita. piradad

TqvenTvis ra aris `qarTuli

ocneba~?

_ saqarTvelo. rogor fiqrobT

Cveni ubedureba ra aris?

_ rac am xilul farglebSia,

mxolod imas vamCnevT. vamCnevT,

rom samebis taZari aaSena, magram

ver vamCnevT, rom mis mier gadarCenili

TiToeuli adamiani

TiTo taZaria. Cveni sasiqadulo

mamuliSvilebis gadarCena, gana

TiTo gadarCenili taZari ar

aris?! _ aris, oRond sxva gagebiT

da sxva mniSvnelobiT. rac

Seexeba `qarTuli ocnebas~,

getyviT rogor saqarTveloze

vocnebob _ sadac qarTuli faseulobebi

dafasebuli iqneba.

Cvenma winaprebma Zveli welTaRricxvis

me-6 saukuneSi Savi

zRvispireTis berZnuli kolonizacia

rom daiwyo, Cvenma

winaprebma udidesi simtkice da

fesvisa da libos siyvaruli

gamoavlines. berZnuli kultura

sadac Sevida, adgilobrivi kulturis

kvali yvelgan waSala.

erTaderTi SemTxveva iyo saqar-

Tvelo, kolxeTi, sadac berZnulma

kulturam adgilobrivi

ver waSala. xedavT, ras gauZles

Cvenma winaprebma? _ berZnuli

kulturis Semotevas. mapatieT,

magram Cven im uxamsobisTvis ver

gagviZlia, rasac dRes yoveli

mxridan gvawvdian. esaa swored

ocneba, rom qarTuli wesi da

rigi aRvasrulo Cems qveyanaSi.

roca afrikaSi qristiani qveynebis

saerTaSoriso kongresi Catarda,

gamovida sasuliero piri,

Tqva sityva, romelic msofliom

aitaca _ Tqveni kultura

aris is, rac aklia Cems kulturaso.

karCaketilobas ar vqadageb

amiT, miviRoT sxvisic, magram

cuds nu miviRebT, kargi miviRoT

da davamynoT Cvens Zirze

es nergi. meqanikurad nu gadmovitanT

yvelafers, qarTul

suls mivusadagod da Sedegsac

kargs miviRebT. magram naxeT ra

xdeba? _ franguli, amerikuli

Tu sxvaTa kulturidan xom vi-

Reb CvenTvis sainteresos, aseve

elodeba sxva kulturis xalxi

Cvengan mivawodoT qarTuli, maT

es ainteresebT da ara is, rac

yelSi aqvT amosuli. dRes mestiaSi

rom CaxvideT, veRar mixvdebiT

sad xarT. mestia damaxinjebulia,

texass hgavs. centrSi,

romelic salocavi, TavSesakrebi

adgili iyo, Sendeba 21e

saukunis simaxinje, Tanamedrove

sastumro, romelic svaneTs

mTlianad Seucvlis iers.

amitom, minda Cems qveyanaSi Cemi

kulturis ganviTarebis saSualeba

mqondes. saxes nu Semicvlian,

nu maZaleben sxvisas. me

mjera, rom axali politikuri

Zala amasac jerovan yuradRebas

miaqcevs.

Tamar SveliZe

5


6 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

dasasruli. dasawyisi

ix. wina nomerSi

omis dawyebis pirvelive saa-

TebSi saqarTvelos xelisufleba

motivirebda imiT, rom separatistebma

ganaxorcieles Tavdasxma

cxinvalTan axlomdebare

dasaxlebul punqtze, rom mimdinareobda

masirebuli dabombva

7 agvistos Ramidan, rom rokis

gvirabis saqarTvelo-ruseTis

sazRvrisken gadasrolili iyo

asobiT SeiaraRebuli piri da

samxedro teqnika.

8 agvistos qarTveli mSvidobisdamcvelebis

meTaurma, generalma

mamuka yuraSvilma (romelic

Semdeg saeWvod gauCinarda,

magram rodesac sazogadoebam

igi saqarTvelos xelisuflebis

mier ukve likvidirebulad CaTvala,

aseve saeWvod gamoCnda televiziiT

da xan brZolis velidan

gaqceva dabralda da xan ra)

ganacxada is sabediswero sityvebi

`konstituciuri wesrigis

dasamyareblad saqarTvelos jarebis

gamiznuli SeiaraRebuli

Sesvla samxreT oseTis teritoriaze.~

saxelmwifo ministrma reintegraciis

sakiTxebSi Temur

iakobaSvilma ganacxada, rom

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis mizani

qalaqebis aReba ki araa,

aramed, Tbiliss surs, wertili

dausvas kriminalur reJims, rom

aravin emuqrebodes saqarTvelos

qalaqebs, moqalaqeebs da infrastruqturas.

qarTulma mxarem

ganacxada, rom qarTuli armiis

moqmedeba iyo pasuxi samxreT

oseTis mier cecxlis Sewyvetis

reJimis darRvevaze.

9 agvistos, saqarTvelos

parlamentma er-

Txmad dauWira mxari

saqarTvelos prezi-

dentis mier saomari

mdgomareobis gamocxadebas

da srul mobilizacias.

germanuli gazeTi `Spigeli~

werda, rom ruseTis SeiaraRebulma

samxedro nawilebma rokis

gvirabis mimarTulebiT svla

daiwyes ara uadres 8 agvistos

11 saaTisa, rac imaze metyve-

lebs, rom agresia ruseTis

mxridan ar dawyebula, man imoqmeda

sapasuxod. imxanad Tbilis-

Si myofi germaniis genStabis

polkovniki volfgang rixteri

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ityuebodnen jarebis gadaadgilebis

Sesaxeb. misi TqmiT, man

ver moiZia vercerTi mtkicebuleba

imisa, rom saakaSvilma

mxolod mas Semdeg gasca cxinvalze

Tavdasxmis brZaneba, rac

ruseTis samxedro nawilebi

rokis gvirabis

mimarTulebiT daiZrnen.

franguli gazeTi

`la mondi~ xazgasmiT

werda da erik furnies

sityvebi moyavda argumentad,

romelmac Tqva,

rom 8 agvistomde aravis

uxsenebia tankebi,

qarTvelebs ar daurekavT

evropeli mokavSireebisTvis

rom rusebi

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aRdgenis Sesaxeb. igive Sinaarsis

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frazac da vxedavdiT cxinvalis

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`amaT~ omi ar dauwyiaT,

mxolod konstituciuri

wesrigis

aRdgena undodaT, omi

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diax, asea, magram

roca saqmeSi artileria

ereva, imas omad

aRiqvams yvela da ara

wesrigis damyarebad, ar

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aqvs misi Sefasebis ufleba,

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mowinaaRmdege

mxaris inteleqtualuri

samsaxurebis Sefasebebi.

moskovis karnegis

centris samecniero sabWos

wevri aleqsei malaSenko:

_ `roca moqmedebas

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xelwamosakravi araa, radgan Ria

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omi, romelic omis dawyebamde

didi xniT adre daiwyo

Jurnalisturi versiebi ruseTsaqarTvelos

2008 wlis omis Sesaxeb

niT, gansakuTrebiT Crd. kavkasiaSi.

ruseTi dainteresebulia,

rac SeiZleba male dalagdes situacia.~

strategiuli Sefasebis institutis

prezidenti aleqsandre

konovaliovi: _ `roca isvri-

an tankebi da agdeben TviTmfrinavebs,

es omia, xolo visi omia,

ar vici. aqamde SemeZlo meTqva,

rom aris raRac mesame Zala, romelsac

ekonomikuri interesebisTvis

omi esaWiroeba, magram

axla, am omSi, arc saqarTvelos

aqvs msgavsi interesebi, arc samxreT

oseTs da miTumetes arc

ruseTs. omis pirvelive SuaRames

gamocxadda, rom iwyeba konstituciis

aRdgenis operacia.

iseTi azri mrCeba, rom saakaSvili

cdilobs momentis gamoyenebas,

roca mas aqvs ricxobrivi

upiratesoba da aqvs saSualeba

uecari efeqtisa. me ar vici ranairi

adeqvaturi qmedeba unda

hqondes ruseTs, radgan kiTxvis

mTeli arsi, _ SesaZlo konfliqti

ruseTsa da saqarTvelos

Soris, _ esaa saSineli idiotizmi.

es warmoudgenelia rogorc

istoriulad, ise kulturulad.

Tu orive qveynis xelm-

ZRvaneloba iqamde dava, rom er-

TmaneTTan oms wamoiwyeben, es

iqneba udidesi politikuri idiotizmi.

sainformacio-analitikuri

centris direqtoris moadgile

aleqsei vlasovi: _ `es aris

konfliqtis mwvave fazis dasawyisi.

saakaSvilis gaTvlaa daiqvemdebaros

samxreT oseTi da

aRadginos konstituciuri wesrigi.

saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba

ar aris mzad, msjavri dasdos

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas,

ruseTis xelmZRvanelobas

ki, ar Rirs hqondes imedi imisa,

rom gaero SedarebiT mkacr gancxadebebs

gaakeTebs. movlenebi

SeiZleba ganviTardes ori scenariT:

1. konfliqti, SeiZleba gaiwelos

ramdenime dRe, es ki, sainformacio

Tu imijis planSi

uaryofiTad imoqmedebs saakaSvilze,

raTa daasabuTos Tavisi

saqcielis legitimuroba. mas es

ufro da ufro gauWirdeba. 2.

saqarTvelo SeZlebs gatexos

samxreT oseTis Zalovani

struqturebis winaaRmdegoba da

saakaSvili aRmoCndeba gamarjvebuli.

kiTxva imaSi mdgomareobs,

ratom ar gaiTvaliswina an samxreT

oseTma an ruseTma Tavis

gegmaSi saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli

Zalebis Tavdasxmis SesaZlebloba

miuxedavad imisa, rom

cnobili iyo qarTuli

Zalebis mier saomari

Tadarigis daWera?

dabneulobas xels

uwyobs isic, rom putini

CineTSia, medvedevi

ki samuSao SvebulebaSi

volgaze.~

mamaZaRli, ruseTi

Tu `uTavod~ iyo dar-

Cenili, aba, omi vin

daiwyo, saakaSvilma?

_ aleqsei vlasovis

Tqmisa ar iyos, politikuri

idiotebi Tavisken

moikiTxon...

sad aris am dros dimitri

sanakoevi?

operacia `Cistaia polia~ imdenad

warmatebulad esaxeboda

mixeil saakaSvils, rom policiis

formebic ki ukve gamzadebuli

hqonda samxreT oseTis axali

administraciisTvis, raTa

yvelafers dalagebuli da mowesrigebuli

ieri hqonoda, xolo

specnazisa da antiteroristuli

jgufebisTvis gansxvavebuli

emblemiani formebi. samxreT

oseTis prokuraturaSi amboben,

rom sanakoevis antiteroristuli

centi, ara `anti,~ aramed,

Tavis arsiT, swored rom teroristuli

centri iyo, radgan

maT aqvT is saswavlo saSualebebi,

riTac maT aswavlidnen,

rogor unda Caataron teroristuli

diversiuli aqti...

teroristuli aqti mouwyves

da aafeTqes miliciis ufrosi

rasac ramdenime moqalaqis sikvdilic

mohyva. oseTis mxares

warmodgenili aqvs dokumenturi

masala imis Sesaxeb, rom 2008

wlis 31 ivlisi – 3 agvistos

monakveTSi Catarebuli, gaurkveveli

operaciis pirnaTlad SesrulebisTvis

gacemulia werilobiTi

dadastureba saxelmwifo

jildoze wardgenis Sesaxeb

saqarTvelos prezidentis xelmoweriT.

warmodgenil dokumentur

masalebSia aseve, piradi

fotoebi, gadaRebuli pankisis

xeobaSi, eraySi, kodoris xeoba-

Si da megobrebTan erTad, romelTac

xelmowerilebs da be-

Weddasmulebs flobs samxreT

oseTis prokuratura.

isini floben informacias

ganuxorcielebeli teraqtebis

Sesaxebac, maT Soris imasac,

rom sanakoevis teroristul

jgufs gamiznuli hqonda rokis

gvirabis afeTqeba, ris Semdegac

ruseTisa da samxreT oseTis damakavSirebeli

gza gadaiketeboda

da ruseTi ver SeZlebda samxreT

oseTis mosaxleobisa da

rusi mSvidobisdamcvelebis daxmarebas,

magram raRac mizeziT es

ar moxerxda...

saubaria baqteriologiur

iaraRzec, koduri saxelwodebiT

`saCuqari,~ romlis mixedvi-

Tac, wyalsacavidan gadinebuli

dasnebovanebuli wyliT muclis

tifis epidemia unda gamoewviaT

liaxvis xeobaSi...

televiziebi gadmoscemdnen 8

agvistos, dRis sam saaTze dimitri

sanakoevs mowodebas mosaxleobisadmi,

rom sicocxlis

SenarCunebisTvis esargeblaT

humanitaruli koridoriT da

daetovebinaT samxreT oseTis

teritoria ergneTis mxrisken.

igi pirobas iZleoda rom aravis

devna ar ganxorcieldeboda.

osuri mxare flobs dokumentur

masalas imis Sesaxebac,

rom maT, vinc daijeres es da

CrdiloeTisken aiRes gezi, gzad

Casafrebuli jariskacebi xocavdnen...

(riTi amtkiceben, rom es

TviT maT ar CaudeniaT, ar kon-

kretdeba, magram miRebulia

mtkicebulebad.)

yvelaze mokle anekdoti _

qarTveli jariskaci.

warwera qarTuli jaris mier

mitovebuli erT-erTi samxedro

bazis kedelze _

`Òîâàðèùè ãðóçèíû, ó÷èòåñü

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71 ãâàðäåéñêèé ìîòîñòðåëêîâûé

ïîëê.~

aseTi dasacini gaxada Cveni

biWebi man, vinc omi daiwyo!

mokled, daiwyo qarTul-


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

osuri, Tu ruseT-saqarTvelos,

Tu qarTul-osur-rusuli Tu

kidev viRac uCinarebis omi da

rogor ucbadac daiwyo, ise ucbadve

damTavrda, omSi daRupulebi

ki erTi zogadi saxelis

qveS gaerTiandnen `omis msxverpli~

da gadaeSvnen, _ saxelmwifoebisTvis

statistikaSi, TavianTi

ojaxebisTvis samaradiso

xsovnaSi...

ara, ras vambob, ra statistikaSi!

`iciT, ras gadascemen

ruseTis arxebi? rom saakaSvils

osi eris genocidisTvis

haagis tribunals gasacemen,

am dros ki Cven vasaidumloebT

ramdeni qarTvelia

daRupuli am omSi! _

moskovidan yviroda Tengiz

kitovani. (`asaval-dasavali~)

marTalia, taliavinis

komisiis 900 gverdian daskvnas

aranairi iuridiuli Zala

ar hqonda, magram wona

rom namdvilad aqvs, amaze

orive mxaris wardgenili

dokumenturi masalebis simravle

da daskvnis gamoqveynebis

molodini metyvelebda.

oficialuri dokumenti

yvelasTvis erTnairad martivi

wasakiTxi ar aris, magram

ramdenime amonaridi, miuxedavad

diplomatiuri xerxebisa,

mainc ganaCeniviT ikiTxeba da

amao iyo Temur iakobaSvilis

winaswari `Segonebani,~ rom

provokaciebi da interpretaciebi,

im sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT,

rom omi saqarTvelom daiwyo,

tyuili iqneba.

amonaridebi taliavinis komisiis

daskvnidan: `7-idan, (RamiT)

8 agvistos, cxinvals Tavs

daatyda saqarTvelos xangrZlivi

saartilerio dabombva. am

droisTvis mimdinareobda saqar-

Tvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebis

gadaadgileba cxinvalisa da mimdebare

teritoriebis mimarTulebiT

da male brZolebSi Caer-

Tvnen ruseTis, samxreT oseTis,

afxazeTis samxedro SenaerTebi

da sxva SeiaraRebuli elementebi,

Tumca, es didxans ar gagr-

Zelebula, iyo manam, sanam saqar-

Tvelos Seteva samxreT oseTze

ar iqna SeCerebuli. sapasuxo

dartymisas, ruseTis SeiaraRebuli

Zalebi Rrmad SeiWrnen saqarTveloSi...~

`saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli

Zalebis mier 2008 wlis 7-8 agvistos,

RamiT, cxinvalis dabombva

iyo saqarTveloSi farTomas-

Stabiani konfliqtis dawyebis

niSani da is iyo xangrZlivi

drois ganmavlobaSi mzardi da-

Zabulobis, provokaciebis da incidentebis

kulminacia.~

`misias arasakmarisad miaCnia

qarTuli mxaris gancxadeba

2008 wlis 8 agvistomde samxreT

oseTSi rusuli jaris far-

TomasStabian SeWraze.~

`Ria sabrZolo moqmedeba daiwyo

saqarTvelos farTomasStabiani

operaciiT cxinvalisa

da mimdebare teritoriebis winaaRmdeg

RamiT, 7-8 agvistos.

operacia daiwyo saqarTvelos

masirebuli saartilerio SeteviT.~

daskvnaSi sxvac bevri ram

ewera, magram ra, _ weron da

TviTonve ikiTxon, aseTia qarTuli

miniSneba.

2008 wlis 22 agvistos, ukrainuli

saagento `uniani~ Te-

mur iakobaSvilTan interviuTi

gvatyobinebda, rom saqarTvelom

cxinvalze Setevis ganxorcieleba

gadawyvita mas Semdeg, rac

ruseTis teqnikam daiwyo Semosvla

samxreT oseTis teritoriaze.

`zRaprebi, TiTqos `gradebi~

Cven gavuSviT cxinvalisken,

tyuilia, cxinvali dabombes rusebma

mas Semdeg, rac Cven davikaveT

igi raRac oTxsaaTnaxevriT.

Cven vbombavdiT simaRleebis

Semogarens, maT Soris aviaciiT

da `gradiT,~ xazs vusvam,

ara dasaxlebul punqtebs! _ ambobda

igi.

xani rom gamoxda, ambobda:

saerTaSoriso kanonmdeblobis

mixedviT, omi iwyeba maSin, roca

ucxo qveynis SeiaraRebuli

Zalebi gadmodian ukanonod Seni

qveynis teritoriaze. es angari-

Si iZaxis, rom aseTi Zalebi iyvnen

gadmosuli, ubralod, iZaxis,

rom SeiZleba im raodenobiT

ar iyvneno, rom maTTvis winaaRmdegoba

gagewiao, ese igi,

gamovida, rom is Zalebi iyvnen

gadmosuli, boevikebi iyvnen gadmosuli,

separatistebi, e.w SeiaraRebuli

Zalebi hyavdaT _ es

yvelani Tu gvesrodnen, Cven ar

gvqonda ufleba?... axla, im faqtis

uaryofa, rom Cveni soflebi

ibombeboda, mSvidobian mosaxleobaze

maqvs laparaki, da ara

samxedro an sapolicio Setakebebze,

amis uaryofa xom ar

aris? amaze dokumenti arsebobs

kulaxmetovis xelmoweriT... me

vfiqrob, rom danarTebs vinc naxavs,

sakmarisze metia egeTi dokumentebi,

ra ver moiZies, ver

gavige... Caixedon, visac amis

survili aqvs!~

mokled, `ase nanatr~ 900

gverdian daskvnas, romelsac

yvela Taviseburad igebs da irgebs,

miuxedavd imisa, rom arc

aranairi iuridiuli Zala aqvs

da arc axals ambobs arafers,

mainc didi gamoxmaureba mohyva,

Tumca, Cveni xelisuflebis da

Sesabamisad ruseTis Tavis tkivilic

ar Camcxrala, 2008

wlis 7 agvistos da manamde ra

raodenobis SeiaraRebuli kon-

tingentic idga samaCablos teritoriaze,

aTi amdeni dgas axla

da, Temur iakobaSvilis logikis,

uflebebis da moqmedebis

Tavisuflebebis mixedviT, rodis

SevcvivdebiT axlidan konstituciuri

wesrigis aRsadgenad

saqarTvelos yofil ZirZvel miwaze,

mxolod manve SeiZleba

icodes...

batonma saakaSvilma `exo

maskvisTan~ intervius dros

(2011 w ivlisi) brZana, me da baton

medvedevs bevri ram gvaqvs

saerToo, magram me unda davsZino,

saerTo ki ara, saocrad

hgvanan medvedevi da saakaSvili

zogjer erTmaneTs,

_ erTi, konstituciur

wesrigs `gradebiT~

amyarebs, meore tankebs da

aviacias iyenebs `mSvidobisTvis~...

vimeoreb, `amaT~ omi ar

dauwyiaT, konstituciuri

wesrigis aRdgena daiwyes,

omi `imaT~ daiwyes, magram

ratom?

batoni saakaSvili amave

interviuSi prezident

medvedevze ambobs: _ `medvedevis

erT-erTi mTavari

damaxasiaTebeli Tviseba is

aris, rom is yovelTvis

ambobs imas, risi mosmenac

mis oponents surs. rogorc

mesmis, medvedevs sakuTari

roli Zalian moswons~.

me kvlav unda davsZino, medvedevi

ara mxolod imas ambobs,

rac oponents esiamovneba, zogjer

akeTebs kidec, yovel Sem-

TxvevaSi, cdilobs mainc.

ase iyo am omis SemTxveva-

Sic, _ dafiqrda ruseTis prezidenti,

awon-dawona, gaaxsenda

ruseTis xelmeored prezidentobaze

TvalebmiStimuli putini,

aiWra da gaifiqra, gagaputineb

axla Sen, naxe, Tu ar davexmaro

miSikos nato-Si Sesvlazeo,

magram amas Riad xom ar gamoacxadebda,

Cumad `gaendo~ vi-

Racas. (SeiZleba sulac igive

putins gaendo, _ ratomac ara?

es ki ara, SeiZleba, sulac piriqiT

moxda) is viRac kidev vi-

Racebs `gaendo~ da, _ qarTulrusuli

gandobilobis ambavi

rom `araxalia, Zvelia,~ qe icis

qveyanam. Sesrulebas raRa edga

win, daiwyo saqarTvelos xelisuflebis

mxridan konstituciuri

wesrigis aRdgena, ruseTis

mxridan ki, sakuTar frTebqveS

Sefarebuli `sabralo~, magram

saqarTvelos konstituciaSi

uwesrigobis Semtani samaCabloelebis

dacva.

aba, kidev erTxel davZaboT

mexsiereba da mxolod imas nu

mivajindebiT, rom mainc da mainc

putinis CineTSi yofnas, olimpiadis

gaxsnis dRes da medvedevis

volgaze SvebulebaSi yofnas daamTxvia

saqarTvelos xelisuflebam

konstituciuri wesrigis

aRdgena samaCabloSi.

7-8 agvistomde ramdenime

dRiT adre televiziebi aCvenebdnen

kadrebs, rom kokoiTi mosaxleobas,

qalebs da bavSvebs

vladikavkazSi xiznavda. maSin

ambobdnen, raRacas gegmaven osebi,

anu maT zurgs amofarebuli

ruseTio.

aba, gaixseneT da axseniT,

ratom lanZRavda omis wina dReebSi

kokoiTi ruseTs da ra RalatSi

adanaSaulebda?

`5 agvistos, qarTuli soflebidan

qalebisa da bavSvebis

gayvana daiwyes. 92 avtobusi daviTvaleT,

rac ukve evakuacia ki

ara, mosaxleobis totaluri

gayvana iyo~, _ ambobda samxreT

oseTis beWvdisa da informaciis

saxelmwifo komitetis Tavmjdomare

irina gagloeva.

irina gagloevaze Cveni irina

sariSvilis naTqvami isev gamaxsenda,

im irinasi, dacinviT `qar-

Tveli politikuri vanga~ rom

Searqves, _ ratom xiznavda

orive mxare omSi gamousadegar

mosaxleobas omamde ramdenime

dRiT adre?

aba, axla is gaixseneT da axseniT,

Temur iakobaSvilis piriT

ratom dautkba ruseTs saqarTvelo

omamde sul cota

xniT adre, roca xmamaRla aTqmevina,

rom ruseTis samxedro

wreebSic arian adamianebi, romlebsac

kargad esmiT, rom samxreT

oseTi saqarTveloa?

kargi, `amaT~ icodnen, rom

konstituciuri wesrigi unda

daemyarebinaT Tu aRedginaT samaCabloSi,

magram `imaT~ raRa

icodnen, `amaT~ SeuTvales?

Tu moiZevT, gagikvirdebaT,

magram aRmoaCenT Cveni televiziebis

gadaRebul kadrs, (ramdenjerme

gaimeores) roca saartilerio

Setevis fonze adgilobrivi

mosaxle mSvidad iZle-

va komentars, mecodebian osebi,

magram es yvelaferi xom unda

damTavrdes bolosdaboloso, _

ras niSnavs es, rom sandod miCneulma

adgilobrivma mosaxleobamac

windawin icoda konstituciuri

wesrigis aRdgenis Sesaxeb

da giga bokeriasi ar iyos,

isic, rom ueWvelad aRdgeboda

es wesrigi?

ara, wesrigi ki aRdgeboda,

magram iakobaSvilis `samarTliani~

rusi samxedrobis msgavsad

ar fiqrobdnen danarCeni rusi

samxedroebi, miTufro, rogorc

vnaxeT, is Seugnebeli ruseTis

58-e armia...

mokled, bevri rom aRar vibodialoT,

SemosaerTebeli teritoriebiT,

mezobelTan saomar

viTarebaSi myofebs, miTufro

rusebianad da maTi tankebianad,

aravin ar Segviyvanda nato-Si

da kargi bargi Camoxsna ruseTma

saqarTvelos, aRiara afxaze-

Tisa da samxreT oseTis damoukidebloba.

aqedan ukve SeSvelebulebi

iyvnen, araRiarebul samxreT

oseTis respublikas arCev-

saerTo gazeTi

nebi `gaupraves~ da taSii! _ nato-Si

varT.

nato-Si ara kato-Si!

am SemTxvevaSi emzar kvicianis

zemoTTqmuli maxsendeba: _ `

ruseTma aRiara afxazeTi, ratom

ruseTis mokavSire qveynebi ar

aRiareben, imitom xom ara, rom

rusebi TviTon ar sTxoven amis

gakeTebas?~

ra aqvs saTxovari, iyos nato-s

karTan mudamJams moRritine

da misi moimede saqarTvelo

manam, sanam TviTonve ar mixvdeba,

rom nato `dermoa~, fiqrobs

ruseTi da arxeinad ganagrZobs

msoflio farsobanas TamaSs

aSS-Tan erTad.

17 noembers sixarulisgan

gonze ver modioda saqarTvelos

aRtkinebuli xelisufleba Tavis

beladianad, istoriuli rezolucia

miiRo evroparlamentmao,

_ oe, oeee! evroparlamentis

rezoluciebs savaldebulo

aRsrulebis Zala ar aqvT, mxolod

sarekomenadacio xasiaTs

atareben!

rac Seexeba ruseTis `okupantad~

araerTxel moxseniebas,

aSS-s mTeli msoflio Tu ara,

naxevari mainc okupantad Tvlis

da iwodebodes isic, sul cal

fexze ar hkidiaT?

hoda, okupantebis prezidentma

medvedevma Tavisi erTi fraziT

erTgvari naTeli mohfina

erTgvarad Cabnelebul saqmis

viTarebas, am batitvinebs ki ra-

Rac uxariaT, jer ver mimxvdaran,

rom medvedevma msoflios

Tvalwin Tvalisdauxamxameblad

CauSva saqarTvelos xelisufleba.

kidev erTxel daanaxva

mTel msoflios, rom `blefia~

saqarTvelos swrafva nato-sken,

daanaxva, rom saqarTvelo yvelafers

ecada imisTvis, rom droebiT,

magram xangrZlivad mainc

daeZvrina Tavi nato-Si Sesvlisgan.

axla imasac amboben, ruseTis

dagebul xafangSi stuca Tavi

saqarTvelomo, _ Tu icoda, rom

xafangi iyo, sad miZvreboda, vis

interesebSi iyo misi `gabma~ gamoCnda.

realurad vin moigo? _ ruseTma.

vin Seuwyo xeli? _ samxreT

oseTSi paraleluri arCevnebis

Camtarebelma da konstituciuri

wesrigis damyarebis iniciatorma.

mainc, mainc, vin? _ amasac

istoria ityvis.

marTalia, istoria yvelafers

ityvis, magram imisa ar

iyos, `Cveni kolmeurneobis Tavmjdomarea,

gvars ar davasaxelebo~,

ase gvWirs, aseTi stili

gvaqvs aRebuli, es axali xedvaa,

Torem istorias vin daelodeboda.

saqarTvelos prezidenti

dResac darwmunebiT ambobs, rom

8 gv.

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8 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

7 gv.

agvistos sisxlisRvris dros,

ruseTma gamoiyena ruseTis SeiaraRebuli

Zalebis 95%, rom

saqarTvelom TiTqmis bolomde

gaanadgura ruseTis saxelgan-

Tqmuli 58-e armia, 2009

wlis 26 maiss ki ganacxada,

rom 2008 wlis agvistoSi,

ruseTis mizani iyo sakuTari

kontrolisTvis daeqvemdebarebina

ara mxolod saqarTvelo,

aramed mTeli regioni Savi

zRvidan kaspiis zRvamde, magram

qarTveli samxedro mosamsaxureebis

gmirobis wyalobiT

ase ar moxda...

vaimeee!!!

mec ar vTqvi, raSia saqme,

raSia saqme, ra jandabad gvinda

iseTi Tanamedrove radaruli

sistemebi, romlebiTac

sazRvao akvatorias gavakontrolebT-meTqi?

_ Turme zRva

unda davicvaT, Torem amogvixapavs

vinme Cvens wil wyals

Tavis Tevzebianad.

jer ar konkretdeba, ra

tipis da ra raodenobis usafrTxoebis

radarebzea saubari

da saqarTvelos Savi zRvis

sanapiros romel geografiul

wertilebSi moxdeba maTi gan-

Tavsebao.

gana ramdeni wertilebi

gvaqvs Sav zRvaze, an im radarebiT

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ucnauria, _ saqarTvelos

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Zalebi ukve mesame welia

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ranairad, ra wyliT

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ipovnian Cveni samarTaldamcavebi

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saqme, ratom miaCumaTes?

es kidev araferi, aSS-is

sazRvao Zalebis mdivan rei

mabusTan Sexvedrisas saqarTvelos

prezidentma brZana: _

`qarTvel jariskacebs aSS-is

samxedro Zalebis elituri

qvedanayofebi wvrTnian. garda

imisa, rom Cveni jariskacebi

did gamocdilebas iReben, am

wvrTnebs grZelvadiani Sedegi

eqneba da didi wvlili Seaqvs

saqarTvelos samxedro skolis

ganviTarebaSi. es wvrTnebi

arsebiTad cvlis erovnul

mentalitets~.

oRond erovnuli mentaliteti

Seicvalos yovelmxriv

da ra gvinda meti!

aRarc afxazeTi gvinda,

aRarc samaCablo da maTTan

dialogi, ruseTTan saubari

ki, sanam okupirebuli teritoriebis

deokupacias ar moaxdens,

arc iocnebos!

rac mTavaria, omi `amaT~

ar dauwyiaT, omi `imaT~ daiwyes!

maia WeliZe

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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siyvaruli, is, rac qarTul

politikur sivrceSi xdeba, umeteswilad

`saqarTvelos siyvarulis~ egidiT

keTdeba. es `siyvaruli~ ki, msubuqad

rom vTqva, marTlac ucnauria

(termini `gaukuRmarTebuli~ rom ar

vixmaro!), radgan am motiviT iseT saqmeebs

ukeTeben sakuTar qveyanas, mteri

rom ver uzams!

TiTqos miwynarda is vnebaTaRelva

mamuka areSiZis ideas rom mohyva _

afxazeTis damoukidebloba vcnoTo.

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gons da uceb, am oriode dRis win internet

sivrceSi kvlav gamoCnda kidev

ufro Semzaravad SefuTuli igive

idea.

zemoT tyuilad ar vaxsene siyvaruli.

mjera, rom baton mamuka uyvars saqarTvelo

da afxazeTi, magram didad

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didad ucnauria is, rom baton mamukas

aviwydeba 2000-mde adamiani, romelic

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is, rom batoni mamuka

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rom rodesac natos generaluri

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euTo, gaero, qveynis gaerTianebaze

saubroben,

batoni mamuka qveynis daSlisken mogviwodebs.

didad ucnauria is, rom rodesac

TviT afxazebic ki Tavs ikaveben imisgan,

rom saqarTvelom maTi damoukidebloba

aRiaros, batoni mamuka daJinebiT

moiTxovs amas.

didad ucnauria is, rom kavkasiis

saqmeTa eqsperti aseT gauTvlel ideas

aviTarebs da Cveni dayoliebac unda.

da bolos, didad ucnauria is, rom

batoni mamukas es SemoTavazeba ase saeWvod

emTxveva kremlis pozicias.

me erTxel ukve gamovTqvi vrclad

Cemi mosazreba am ideasTan dakavSirebiT

(`rezonansi~, #350, 2004 w.

`droni~, #25, 2011 w. `saerTo gaze-

Ti~, #28, 2011 w.) da

vfiqrob davasabuTe is,

rom ar SeiZleba sakuTari

miwa-wyali ase upasuxismgeblod

gaaniavo, gaapartaxo

da nakuwebad aqcio

samudamod. amis gamo,

amjerad Tavs vikaveb

vrceli msjelobisagan,

Tumca didi survili ki

maqvs, rom mraval e.w.

`politikur eqsperts~

Tavidan gamovubertyo is

`genialuri~ azrebi, qveynis

ganadgurebisaken rom migvaqaneben.

Tumca mokledac SeiZleba iTqvas _ sakuTar

keTildReobas nu SeswiravT

isedac daqucmacebul da dabeCavebul

qveyanas! adre Tu gvian amas arc xalxi

gapatiebT da arc RmerTi!

zurab Ciqovani


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

biZina ivaniSvili: Cemi azriT,

pirvel rigSi, xalxs daubrunda

rwmena, rwmena imisa, rom SeiZleba

eSvelos, SeiZleba situacia Seicvalos.

me vicodi, rom es ese iqneboda,

es me vigrZeni da varwmuneb Cvens mosaxleobas,

rom es rwmena ar gaucruvdebaT,

yvelaferi ise iqneba, rogorc

fiqroben.

sazogadoebrivi moZraoba iqmneba

saxelmwifos politikuri, ekonomikuri

da socialuri ganviTarebis

procesebze samoqalaqo sazogadeobis

kontrolisa da gavlenis gazrdis

mizniT. Cems gancxadebaSi ukve mogaxseneT,

rom Cemi adgili sabolood samoqalaqo

sazogadoebaa. samoqalaqo

sazogadoebam unda moaxerxos, gaaZlieros

da gaamZafros gavlena da

kontroli am procesebze. sazogadoebam

unda akontrolos mTavroba da

ara piriqiT, rac xdeba dRes. es procesi

iqneba xangrZlivi, magram sakmarisia,

kritikuli masa SevqmnaT, rasac

samoqalaqo sazogadoeba hqvia,

daviwyoT imis gacnobiereba, rom Cvenia

es qveyana da Cven unda vakontroloT;

am procesebis ganviTarebas dro

dasWirdeba, magram Cven mivalT evropasTan

uaxloes wlebSi. politikur

partias aucileblad CamovayalibebT.

albaT kiTxvebi Cndeba, rogor

ganviTardeba procesebi imasTan damokidebulebiT,

rom moqalaqeoba CamomarTves.

partias CamovayalibebT; gundi

iqmneba. me vfiqrob, rom Cemi moqalaqeobac

dabrundeba; Tu arada,

Cven gvaqvs sxva svlebi da yvelaferi

mainc ise ganviTardeba, rogorc saWiroa.

„qarTuli ocneba“ CemTvis, rogorc

umravlesi qarTvelisaTvis,

esaa gamTlianebuli, gaZlierebuli,

demokratiuli qveynis aRmSenebloba;

am bolo dros es ocneba me valdebulebad

viqcie; es aris Cveni valdebuleba

winaprebisa da momavali Taobebis

winaSe, rom Cven avaSenoT Tavisufali,

Rirseuli moqalaqeebiT dasaxlebuli

yvelasTvis saocnebo saqarTvelo.

rac Seexeba qvelmoqmedebas, Cemi

qvelmoqmedebisadmi damokidebulebis

Sesaxeb daiwera, roca 2005 wels

pirveli interviu miveci. rusulma

mediam ar dabeWda im motiviT, rom

amas rusuli sazogadoeba ver gaigebda

da saWiro ar iyo. Semdeg igi ramdenjerme

daibeWda qarTul mediaSi.

marTali giTxraT, cotaTi gawbilebuli

viyavi, rom araviTari gamoxmaureba

ar mohyolia; magram

batonma otiam gaakeTa Zalian

kargi komentari. cotas visesxeb

im inteviudan da gavimeoreb.

qvelmoqmedeba me pirobiTad davyavi

or nawilad: qvelmoqmedi,

romelic Segnebulad axmaurebs

Tavisi saqmianobis Sesaxeb; amas

aqvs erTi mizani, rac praqtikulad

reklamasTan gavaigive. biznesmeni

iqneba, politikosi Tu

xelovani, isini damatebiTi xmis

mozidvaze zrunaven, rodesac

qmelmoqmedebas Segnebulad axmaureben.

da arsebobs qvelmoqmedTa meore

nawili, romelic gulwrfelad

cdilobs dafaros Tavisi moRvaweoba,

TumcaRa zogjer es ar xerxdeba. aqedan

ganvaviTare Cemi damokidebuleba

qvelmoqmedebisadmi; es pirveli da meore

nawili arc Tu ise Sors arian

erTmaneTisgan, radgan erTic da meorec

yelefer amas sakuTari TavisTvis

akeTebs. pirveli akeTebs imisTvis,

rom materialuri Semosavali gazar-

dos da miiRos; meore - sulieri

gamdidrebisTvis. es Tema me

ufro gaSlili maqvs da aq albaT

ver movaxerxeb dawvrilebiT

saubars. da aq aris swored

is, rasac me mivadeqi da viyavi

bednieri, roca rusTavelis

brZnuli sityvebi „rasaca gascem

Senia...“ gamoviyene da davinaxe

is meqanizmi. me maqvs amis

mtkicebulebebi, rom es marTlac

esea. da me Zalian bednieri

viyavi.

„roca adamianebs gaweuli

daxmarebis Sesaxeb zedmetad

Seaxseneben xolme, es zogjer TviTreklamis

survils scildeba. nebsiT

Tu uneblieT, Cven im adamianebis Tavmoyvareobas

vlaxavT da maTi Rirsebis

grZnobas vamcirebT.“

„vedemosti“

me SegaxsenebT Cems pirvel werils,

roca me ganvacxade politika-

Si mosvlis Sesaxeb. iq Cemi meryeobis

Sesaxeb ganmartebebs viZleodi,

amas hqonda ori ganmsazRvreli: pirveli

iyo is, rom mudmivad vacxadebdi,

rom ar vapirebdi politikaSi

mosvlas da es miSlida xels gadawyvetilebis

miRebaSi; da meore - Cemi

msoflmxedveloba. Cemi damokidebuleba

qvelmoqmedebisadmi aseve gamoxatavda

Cems msoflmxedvelobas.

rodesac vmeryeobdi da gadawyvetilebas

ver viRebdi, es ori kiTxva

mudmivad mawuxebda. kargad vicodi,

Tu wavidodi politikaSi Cemi msoflmxedveloba

dadgeboda eWvqveS pirvel

rigSi sakuTari Tavis da meore

sazogadoebis winaSe da me axali

mtkicebulebebi damWirdeboda

amisTvis. magram es kargad

gavacnobire da gadawyvetileba

miviRe amis Semdgom.

sasworze ido Cemi msoflmxedveloba

da Cemi samSoblo

da me arCevani sworad gavakeTe.

vfiqrob, cxovrebaSi

meqneba imis saSuleba, isic

davamtkico, rom rasac vambobdi,

me namdvilad ase vuyureb

cxovrebas.

rac Seexeba gamoqveynebul

siebs, adamianebs, romelTac

vexmarebodi, vicodi

daaxloebiT rac SeiZleba

momxdariyo, magram ar megona Tu

ase uxeSad ganviTardeboda movlenebi.

ra Tqma unda, ganvicdi, vuTanagrZnob

maT. es adamianebi iseve miyvars, rogorc

miyvardnen. erTs vetyodi, avitanoT

erTad! mec raRacebs vitan,

mec raRacebs Sevegue, raRacebs vebr-

Zvi, ganvicdi, vuTanagrZnob...magram

arauSavs! yvelaferi asatania da dalagdeba!

rodesac xmauri atyda qvelmoqmedebasTan

dakavSirebiT, Cvenma oponen-

tebma ise warmoaCines, lamis danaSaulad

CamiTvales es da im xalxsac

saSinel dReSi yrian, adanaSauleben,

rogor gabedes daxmarebis miReba.

ramdenime gvars mudmivad atrialeben.

SesaZlebelia maqsimum aTi kaci mar-

Tla eWvs iwvevdnen, sWirdebodaT Tu

ar sWirdebodaT daxmareba, magram

yvela danarCeni amas aucileblad sa-

Wiroebda. me ar vTvli, rom es unda

Sevcvalo; is eWvebi, rac gamoTqves,

rom viTom xalxis mosyidvas apirebda

da amisTvis akeTebdao, Cemis azriT

amoraluria, ramdenadac oci welia

amas vakeTeb. Tavs uflebas mivcem

da cotas ganvaviTareb am sakiTxs.

oci wlis win coli rom mo-

`qarTuli ocneba~ CemTvis, rogorc

umravlesi qarTvelisaTvis, esaa

gamTlianebuli, gaZlierebuli,

demokratiuli qveynis aRmSenebloba

eka beriZis interviu

biZina ivaniSvilTan

(intervius sruli teqsti)

viyvane, maSin me ar viyavi jer

milioneri, magram mqonda saSuleba

da me da Cemi coli saqorwino

mogzaurobaSi vgegmavdiT,

rogor davxmarebodiT qarTvelebs.

pirveli jgufi maSin gavuSviT

sazRvargareT saswavleblad.

Tu vinmes imis gancda

da iluzia aqvs, rom me

oci welia vgegmav, rogor movide

politikaSi da imitom

vaxorcielebdi qvelmoqmedebas,

ra Tqma unda, es ese araa

da amis ufleba Tavs arc unda

miscen moraluri TvalsazrisiT.

rac Seexeba gavagrZeleb

Tu ara, ratomac ara, Tu

es winaaRmdegobaSi ar mova saqarTvelos

kanonmdeblobasTan.

gavagrZeleb imas, rasac vake-

Tebdi!

rac Seexeba uangarobis Teorias,

cota dros wagarTmevT da gavixseneb,

rogor mivadeqi am cnebas.

maxsovs aspiranturaSi pirvel wels

disertaciis pirveli Teoriuli Tavi

mivutane Cems xelmRvanels da moewona.

gaTamamebuli viyavi, Tu ram momca

saSualeba, im saRamos aRmovaCine, rom

adamiani yvelafers sakuTari TavisTvis

akeTebs. is rom Cemi dedaa da imitom

vzrunav, Cemi Svilia, Cemi megobaria,

Cemi samSobloa... da amis Semdgom

aRmovaCine isic, rom Tu yvelafers

sakuTari TavisTvis akeTebs, ma-

Sin kargi da cudi adamianebi riT

gansxvavdebian erTmaneTisgan?! aman

garkveulwilad CixSi Semiyvanda ramdenime

dRe cudad vgrZnobdi Tavs;

maxsovs vixsenebdi balzakis gmirebs,

riT gansxvavdeba mama gorio, romelic

gadahyva Tan Tavis Svilebs, gobsekisagan,

igive balzakis gmirisagan,

romelsac dagroveba uyvarda, Tu

isic sakuTari TavisTvis akeTebs,

esec sakuTari TavisTvis akeTebs. ramdenime

dRis Semdeg mivadeqi imas, rom

yvela sakuTari TavisTvis akeTebs,

magram kargi adamiani ganicdis da

karg saqmeebs akeTebs, kargi saqmeebis

keTeba siamovnebs, cuds kidev - cudis.

da aqedan gamomdinare, moraluri-amoraluri,

wesieri-araweieri yvelaferi

davalage da gamixarda. ufro

10 gv.

9


10 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

9 gv.

gvian ganvaviTare es terminologia,

sakuTar terminebs movixmar am bolo

dros, - transformacia gavukeTe

sityvebs kargi da cudi - niWieri

da araniWieri. niWieri kaci akeTebs

yvelafers ise, rom sazogadoebisaTvis

sasargeblo iyos, uniWo - piriqiT.

sainteresoa, ras da rogor ake-

Tebs sakuTari TavisTvis niWieri da

uniWo; da saerTod, ra gansazRvravs

niWierebas da adamianis qcevas. niWieri

davyavi pirobiTad or nawilad -

inteleqti da fsiqika. inteleqti advili

asaxsnelia. es CemTvis yvelaze

saintereso Temaa. inteleqtsa da

fsiqikas davuTme 50/50-ze pirobi-

Tad, zustad ver ityvi, yvela

adamianSi sxvadasxva Sezavebaa. inteleqti

Sedgeba genetikas +

wrToba, ganaTleba. rac Seexeba

fsiqikas, fsiqikas Zalian didi

niSvneloba aqvs. fsiqoanalizi Cemi

gatacebaa bolo 30 weliwadi.

Cemi megobrebi Zalian seriozuli

jgufia saqarTveloSi, Tu msoflioSi

aris raRac miRwevebi, done,

me vfiqrob, rom aranaklebia

aq.

mogexsenebaT, fsiqiurad aSlili

adaminebi, paranoikebi da Sizofrenikebi,

saubedurod, sakmaod

bevria dRevandel sazogadoebaSi.

fsiqikis gavlenis sainterso magaliTisTvis,

kargi iqneba Tu gavixsenebT

hitlers. hitlers inteleqti

ar aklda, magram saSinelebebi

Caidina sazogadoebis winaSe.

amitom marto inteleqti fsiqikis

gareSe pozitivs ver iZleva; Sei-

Zleba zogjer inatro kidec, netav

ufro naklebi hqoneboda inteleqti,

vTqvaT, aseTi fsiqikis kacso. Tumca-

Ra es ar niSnavs eqscentriulobas,

lamazi sityvebi minda gavixseno amis

sapirispirod. salvador dali eqscentriulobiT

gamoirCeoda, magram

geniosi mxatvari iyo amavdroulad.

Tu srulyofaSia fsiqika da inteleqti,

sazogadoeba Rebulobs sazogadoebisTvis

sasargeblo produqts.

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi vRebulobT

hitleris msgavss an uaress.

rac Seexeba Tomas de vaalis Sefasebas

prezidentis niWierebis Sesaxeb,

modiT kidev cota ufro gavSaloT

Tema, ra mimaCnia niWierebad da

ara marto me. amis Sesaxeb aris zogadi

cnebebi. niWirebas zomaven imis

mixedviT, ramdenad meti sargebeli

moaqvs sazogadoebisTvis pirovnebas,

anu ramdenad sasargeblo Sromas

eweva. am kuTxiT ganixilaven biznesmenebs,

mxatvrebs, musikosebs, poetebs.

anu vin axerxebs ukeTesad Seiswavlos

sazogadoebis moTxovnileba

da miawodos is, rac sWirdeba sazogadoebas.

amis mixedviT Camoyalibda

zogadi cnebebi, rom niWieri axerxebs

gamoicnos sazogadoebis moTxovnileba

da droze miawodos moTxovnadi

produqti. biznesmeni, romelic

gamoicnobs sxvaze adre da ukeTesad,

ra sWirdeba sazogadoebas, mas meti

warmatebebi aqvs. asevea politikosic.

politikosi, romelic swor gzebs

xedavs da sworad icis, ra sWirdeba

sazogadoebas, visac Tavisi qveyana,

sazogadoeba, romelsac is xelmZRvanelobs

(vTqvaT, pirveli piri an nebismieri

politikosi, erTnairi formuliT

moeTxovebaT), iqiTken mihyavs,

rom ganaviTaros da swori gziT

waiyvanos, gaxlavT niWieri. Tu gavaanalizebT

saakaSvilis moRvaweobas,

`qarTuli ocneba~ CemTvis, rogorc

umravlesi qarTvelisaTvis, esaa

gamTlianebuli, gaZlierebuli,

demokratiuli qveynis aRmSenebloba

pirveli ori weliwadi mec mqonda

amis iluzia, rom saakaSvili aris ni-

Wieri da mTel saqarTvelosac ase

egona. dRevandeli gadmosaxedidan Tu

SevxedavT saakSvils, sad migviyvana

da sada varT dRes, is rom gauforemebeli

avtoritaruli saxlemwifo

miviReT da diqtatorobazec uars

ar ityvis, misi qcevebidan gamomdina-

re; is rom saakaSvili dRes miuRebelia,

araviTari resursi aRar aqvs,

arviTri politikuri kapitali, rogorc

qveynis SigniT, ise qveynis gareT;

man es yvelaferi amowura da

realurad borkili gaxda sazogadoebis

ganviTarebis, Zalian rTulia, yovelive

amis Semdeg saakaSvils niWieri

poitikosi uwodo. me ufro martiv

ganmartebas mogcemT niWierebaze.

sofelSi gavizarde; sabWoTa kavSiris

dros, rogorc mogexsenebaT, Zalian

patara miwis nakveTebi hqondaT glexebs.

ezo patara, iqve miwis nakveTi

patara da sazRvarze sul iyo problema.

5 santimetriT gadaweva da ukve

mezobels awuxebdi. gasaTvaliswinebeli

iyo iq xeebs rogor dargavdi,

xom ar dauCrdilavdi mas da a.S. Ce-

mis azriT damokidebulebebi iyo Zalian

frTxili da Zalian mgrZnobiare

mezoblebs Soris. glexi, romlis

samuSao iaraRebic, ase vTqvaT, ar

aris inteleqtualuri, romelic

axerxebs cxovrebas ise, rom sakuTari

mezobeli ar Seawuxos Tavisi yofiT,

CemTvis ukve niWieria. aqedan

iwyeba niWiereba. mogexsenebaT, sofelSic

arian adamianebi, romlebic

mudam konfliqtSi modian da ver

axerxeben TavianTi moTxovnilebebis

daokebas, eseni ukve gadadis araniWi-

er xalxSi igive ganmartebiT. am Sem-

TxvevaSi, vTqvaT, inteleqti ar hyofnis

Tu fsiqika ar aZlevT saSualebas,

es sxva ramea. saakaSvils ra Tqma

unda, dRevandeli gadasaxedidan niWierebSi

ver davayenebT, magram sakmaod

axalgazrdaa da SesaZlebelia kidev...

Tu is gaacnobierebs, rom es gza mis

qveyanas ver gaiyvans da es gza ar

aris gza mimavali eklesiisken

(patriarqs uyvars am sityvebis

gamoTqma da mec momwons), SesaZlebelia

Tavisi cxovrebis man-

Zilze man moaxerxos da gadavides

pliusebSi, TumcaRa Zalian

mepareba eWvi....

rac Seexeba samSoblosTan

Sexvedras, me gavecani qalbaton

ia anTaZis werils, sxvaTa Soris

Zalian saintereso, Zalian gulwrfeli

iyo... gavecani mopaeqreebsac,

Temur Wkuaselma dauwera

pasuxi, kidev iyo viRac Sualeduri...

mainteresebda damokidebuleba.

miuxedavad imisa, rom vaRiareb

q-ni ias da misi oponentebis

gulwrfelobas.. me maqvs gansaxvavebuli

pozicia. arc erTs ar

vemxrobi da a ratom. vTqvaT q-ni

ia Cemze wers, wasuli iyo oci

wliT da man ar icis, ra aris misi

samSobloo. misi oponentebi

amboben, rom es kaci Camodioda,

naxulobda, Svilebs aCvenebda da

icis, ra xdeba sxvadasxva kuTxeebSi...

me arc erTs ar veTanxmebi. me eseTi

xedva maqvs, rom rodesac samSoblozea

saubari da pirovnebaze, Cems Sem-

TxvevaSi, maT icodnen rom me davibade

da gavizarde Cems sofelSi,

skola davamTavre mzobel sofelSi

da universiteti davamTavre Tbilis-

Si; samSoblosTan damokidebuleba da

samSoblos cneba unda ganixilo adamianTan

erTad. unda warmoidgino,

rogor yalibdeba adamiani, misi msoflmxedveloba,

ra damokidebuleba

aqvs samSoblosTan. kaci Semecnebas

iwyebs 12-17 wlis asakSi, cdilobs

gaacnobieros yofa, vin aris TviTon,

axerxebs gaiaros is cxovreba,

vTqvaT, rogoric gaviare me (25 wlis

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.net

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

wavedi saqarTvelodan), mas aRar aqvs

saSualeba daiviwyos samSoblo. aq

volteris sityvebi SegviZlia gavixsenoT,

rom samSoblo es aris mxare,

sadac datyvevebulia suli. da es absoluturad

esea. vixseneb im dros,

rodesac wavedi... mudam gesizmreba

Seni soflis bilikebi, universiteti,

Tbilisi.... adamiani sadac ibadeba

da izrdeba, uyalibdeba msoflmxedveloba,

isaa misi samSoblo, misi

suli iq rCeba mudmivad. me mgoni,

qarTvelebi am mxriv marTlac gansa-

kuTrebulebi arian. Cven georgia

tyuilad ar gvqvia, Zalian varT mijaWvulebi

Cvens miwasTan. Svilebic

qarTvelebad gavzardeT me da Cemma

meuRlem, moavxerxeT. es ar iyo ukve

martivi, rodesac vcxovrobdiT ruseTSi

an safrangeTSi. yvelaze didi

problema iyo Svilebis qarTvelebad

Camoyalibebis procesi da amaze Cven

Zalian didi Sroma davxarjeT da Cven

es SevZeliT. me aqve minda gavixseno

uamravi Cveni emigranti, romelic

dRes wasulia saqarTvelodan. Zalian

kargad mesmis maTi, rogori gancda

aqvT maT, rogor enatrebaT TavianTi

qveyana, mudmivad molodinSi arian,

rodis dabrundebian. magram dasabrunebeli

unda iyos, eseT saqarTvelo-

Si ver dabrundebian... maT Zalian didi

problema eqnebaT SvilebTan dakav-

SirebiT. Cven gvqonda amis saSulaba,

Cemi finansebiT, maswavlebeli gvyavda

mudmivad da es movaxerxeT. maT ki Zalian

didi sirTuleebis gadatana mouwevT

Svilebis aRzrdis saqmeSi, ra-

Ta isini qarTvelebad aRzardon. me

vici, rom yvelas aqvs es gancda da

absoluturi umravlesoba moaxerxebs.

ase rom, 20 wlis kaci rom saqarTvelodan

midis, is samSoblos

ver iviwyebs. me mudam viyavi qarTvel

xalxTan, mudam mtkioda qarTvelis

tkena, arasodes damviwynia da arasodes

damitovebia Cemi samSoblo.

rac Seexeba Cems gadwyevtilebebs

ruseTsa da saqarTveloSi,maT urTierTkavSirs,

kargia, rom dadebiT

raRaceebsac poulobT Cems interviuebSi,

Torem ratomRac saqarTveloSi

Jurnalistebma mxolod uaryofiTi

aiRes iqedan. rodesac laparakia defoltze

ruseTSi, Cemi banki iyo er-

TaderTi msxvili bankebidan da stuqturebidan,

romelmac valdebulebebi

gaistumra. absoluturad SemeZlo

uari meTqva, Cemi danaSauli iq araferi

ar iyo, magram araTu bankis qoneba,

aramed rac mqonda gareT, yvelaferi

Semovitane bankSi imisTvis, rom

valdebulebebi gamestumrebina. SeiZleba

msoflioSi ver naxoT msgavsi

precedenti. es aris Cemi xelwera. es

aris Cemi cxovreba. es iyo Cemi cxovrebis

wesi. es me miweria rusul gazeTSi,

qarTvelebma rom daijeron, iq

gadabrunebuli sityva rom meTqva, vin

mapatiebda. da ra Tqma unda, me amiT

vamayob, rom movaxerxe. Tumca ruseT-

Si naxevrad giJs meZaxda yvela, es

rogor gavakeTe. rac Seexeba meore

gadawyevtilebas.... Zalian rTuli kav-

Siri gaakeTeT da Zalian saintereso....

cota gadaWarbebulia, rom me

saxelmwifo proeqtebs vafinansebdi,

Tumca amis msgavsi iyo, me Cems qveyanas,

samSoblos vexmarebodi da es

damokidebuleba mqonda mudam, valdebulebis

grZnoba gamaCnda da gamaCnia

dResac... is, rom saakaSvilma ver Seasrula

dapirebebi, dapirebebis samagierod

sicruiT gvkvebavs da ZaliT

unda dagvarwmunos, rom is akeTebs

imas, rasac dagvpirda...saakaSvilis

valdebulebebs ar viReb, magram Cemi


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

qveynis winaSe valdebulebebi, rasac

ver asrulebs da am procesSi me CaverTe....

Zalian saintereso kavSiri

monaxeT...

rac Seexeba kiTxvebze arakonkretuli

pasuxebis gacemas (saqme Seexeba

pensiis odenobaze dasmul kiTxvas), me

vTvli, rom sazogadoeba unda mieCvios

axal realobas. regionul medias-

Tan Sexvedrisas, maxsovs sxva konkretul

kiTxvebsac misvamdnen, vTqvaT,

ras gavakeTeb calkeul qalaqebSi. me

ar mivcem arasodes zedmet dapirebebs

sazogadoebas. piriqiT, me Zalian

frTxilad vekidebi yovel Cems sityvas.

da minda rom dapirebebiT rac Cven

miviReT, igive ar ganmeordes. me mir-

Cevnia daviWiro Tadarigi, davpirde

naklebs da gavakeTo meti. me sxvanairad

ver SevZleb, ver gavakeTeb, es ar

aris Cemi cxovrebis wesi. pasuxi, mgoni

kargi vTqvi, pensia unda hqondes

adamians imdeni, rom man imiT SeZlos

cxovreba da Cven amas mivaRwevT; magram

ver mivaRwevT pirvelsave wels,

amis Sesaxeb gafrTxilebT, rom iluzia

ar gaCndes. Cven mudmiv dapirebebSi

vcxovrobT da ararealuri dapireba

iwvevsa sicrues. erTi sicrue

iwvevs meores da es gadadis mere im

viTarebaSi, sadamdec mivediT Cven. amis

Zalian kargi magaliTebi gvaqvs da

aRar CavuRrmavdebi. gavixseneb erTaderT

imas, rogor gaxsna Cvenma prezidentma

aRmaSeneblis quCa. ratomRac

plexanoviT moixsenia, etyoba erideba

aRmaSenebelis gvaris xsenebas; isev

dagvmoZRvra, rom yvelaze magar qalaqebs

msoflioSi Turme vaSenebT Cven

da yvelaze swrafi tempebi ekonomikis

ganviTarebisa gvaqvs Cevn. es ukve Seuracxyofaa,

ase briyvad rom gvTvlis,

magram aseT Seuracxyofebs mudmivad

vRebulobT misgan. es da msgavsi magaliTebi

kidev ufro mimZafrebs ganwyobas,

rom qarTuli sazogadoeba

unda gadaeCvios cru dapirebebs, gaerkves

da situacia Seafasos sworad.

Cemgan es ar moxdeba.

rac Seexeba partniorobas da TanamSromlobas,

maT Soris gansxvaveba

martivia. partnioroba ufro axlo

urTierTobas niSnavs, TanamSromloba

cota ufro daSorebuls, axali ter-

minic SemoviRoT - urTierToba, raTa

aravin ar darCes politikuri opoziciuri

istebliSmentidan yuradRebis

miRma, rom yvelasTan SevZloT partnioroba

da TanamSrobloba Tu ara,

urTierToba mainc, raTa warmatebiT

mivaRwioT dagegmil mizans.

ra Tqma unda, dasavleTis mxarda-

Weras da pozicias Zalian didi

mniSvneloba aqvs. dasavleTis poziciam

gansazRvra 2008 wlis arCevnebis

damtkiceba da Cven am mxriv Zalian

bevri samuSao gavqvs gasakeTebeli da

bevrs gavakeTebsT. rac evrosabWoSi

moxda, es aris kargi magaliTi imisa,

rom isini uamrav fuls xarjaven lobistebze,

Cveni xalxis, aseT mdgomareobaSi

myofi xalxis fuls aniaveben

aseT sakiTxebSi. Cven daviwyeT seriozuli

muSaoba da kargi organizeba.

ramdenime TveSi Cven SevcvliT situacias.

SevcvliT evropis da amerikis

damokidebulebas da vaCvenebT maT

realobas. da amas Tqven dainaxavT

uaxloes TveebSi.

rac Seexeba alternativis gaCenas

- erTis mxriv nato da meores mxriv

okupirebuli teriroriebis deokupacia

da integracia saqarTveloSi,am

winadadebidan me Tqven sityvas „gaCndes“

amovirCev. ar unda gaCndes. Cven

am gaCenaSi monawileoba unda miviRoT

da es aris Cveni mTavrobis valdebuleba

da roli. aseTi viqnebiT Cven.

ar gaCndeba, aravin arafers ar gaa-

Cens, Cven unda gavaCinoT; Cven unda

SevZloT, movaxerxoT! saqarTvelos

bedia evrostruqturisaken svla, maT

Soris natoc Cveni bedia, da aseve

Cveni bedia ruseTTan mezobloba. Cven

unda movaxerxoT erTic da meoresTan

urTierTobac.

yofila SemTxvevebi, roca damibrunebia

momgebiani aqciebi da wagebaze

wavsulvar. me amiT aranakleb vamayob,

vidre pirveliT, roca bankis

valdebulebebze iyo saubari. es iyo

uprecedento SemTxveva, rodesac qonebis

saministrom gayida aqciebi (me

es miweria interviuSi da iq erT

sityvas sicrues veravin gabedavda, es

yvelaferi gadamowmebulia); marTlac

Cemi yvelaze didi sawarmo sainvesticio

proeqtiT SeviZine, vnaxe, rom

Secdoma iyo da mTeli qonebis saministro

yiraze idga ramdenime Tve da

mexvewebodnen, waiRe, aravin arafers

SegekiTxebao, magram ara-meTqi, ukanonoa

da ukan unda daibrunoT-Tqo. es

iyo Cemi cxovrebis wesi, riTac me vamayob

mudmivad da igive aqciebi erTi

wlis Semdeg 11-jer Zvirad SeviZine

meorad auqcionze. mudam vcxovrobdi

ase, mudam pativs vcemdi im konsesuss,

rasac xalxi aRwevs da rasac

kanoni hqvia.

me davabrune ukan ukanonod gacemuli

aqciebi da politikaSic aseve

davabruneb, Tu is ukanono iqneba. magram

me TviTon politikidan wasvlas

dapirebebis Seusuleblad ar vapireb

da amas tyuilad nu elodebian. kidev

aqvT oponentebs amis gancda, rom moewyineba

da wavao, daaxloebiT aseTi

informacia modis. me politikaSi viq-

nebi iseTive sufTa, rogoric viyavi

ekonomikaSi da rogoric viyavi biznesSi.

iseTive sufTa xelebiT SevZleb

uari vTqva ukanonobaze da mivaRwio

imas, kanonieri gziT ganvaxorcielo

is, rasac Sevpirdi mosaxleobas.

saqarTvelos konkurentuli upiratesoba,

pirvel rigSi es aris Cveni

unikaluri geografiuli mdebareoba.

mogexsenebaT, saqarTveloze gadioda

abreSumis gza. amas aucileblad

dasWirdeba realizeba, rom es

koziri gamoviyenoT. Cven marTalia

patara teritoria gvaqvs, magram

gvaqvs bevri SesaZleblobebi. turizmisTvis

gvaqvs yvelaferi, gvaqvs

zRva, gvaqvs mTa. aucileblad unda

ganvaviTaroT soflis meurneoba da

unda SevZloT maRalteqnologiuri

samuSao adgilebis Seqmnac. evropasaviT

gamokveTili ara, magran saqarTvelos

aqvs yvela piroba imisaTvis,

rom warmatebuli qveyana iyos. amas

sWirdeba neba, swori kanonebi da a.S.

rom ara ganviTarebuli movlenebi,

namdvilad vapirebdi wignis daweras.

Tumca ar mivatoveb am ideas. Sevecdebi,

mokled agixsnaT, ras Seexeba

igi, ramdenadac am interviuSi am wig-

nidan movaxerxe da ukve Sevexe ramdenime

sakiTxs. Cven Sua gzaze mivatoveT

ioselianis Sexseneba Cems

qvelmoqmedebaze „rasaca gascem Senia“.

wignSi movaxerxe, amexsna, damesabuTebina

rusTavelis es brZnuli

sityvebi. Cems wignSi es yvelaferi

iqneba gadmocemuli, riTac me didi

simaovneba miviRe Tavis droze. mokled,

Zalian saintereso sakiTxebs,

Temebs eZRvneba. Tumca yvelaze saintereso

aris sakiTxebi, Tu ra aris

Cveni yofa, wuTisofeli. skolidan

moyolebuli, roca me-7-8 klasSi baraTaSvilis

es leqsi viswavleT, rogorc

yvela moqalaqe da adamiani, am

kiTxvas mudmivad vsvam, ra aris Cveni

yofa, vin aris adamiani, ra unda, ra

miznebi aqvs, ra amoZravebs. me movaxerxe

martivi eniT amexsna da Zalian

bevr kiTxvaze gameca pasuxi.

mogexsenebaT, rodesac adamianis

yofaze, miznebze, siaxleebis mudmiv

Ziebaze saubroben, arseboben filosofosebi,

mimdinareoba arsebobs, romelic

ganmartavs, rom adamiani mudam

isaxavs mizans, miaRwevs mas da am er-

Tze ver Cerdeba; mere gegmavs meores

da es aris mTeli spirali. ese martivad

xsnian adamianis cxovrebas. baraTaSvils

davubrundeT isev, mas

aqvs ufro lamazad, vidre nebismier

filosofoss:

`mainc ra aris Cveni yofa —

wuTisofeli,

Tu ara oden sawyauli

aRuvsebeli?

vin aris igi, vis Tvis guli

saerTo gazeTi

erTxel aRevsos,

da rac mieRos erTxel

natvriT, isi ekmaros?.“

ra unda adamians, ratom ar kmarobs?!

Cven zemoT aRvniSneT, rom

adamiani yvelafers Tavisi TavisTvis

akeTebs, gavixseneT rusTavelis „rasaca

gascem Senia“, baraTaSvili; me

movaxerxe, movnaxe TviTgadarCenis instiqtis

moqmedebis meqanizmi, misi

struqtura. am struqturis aRmoCenis

da danaxvis Semdeg, me davinaxe,

rom erTi xis ori totia is, rasac

ambobs rusTaveli „rasaca gascem Senia,

rac ara dakargulia“ da Cveni meore

geniosi poeti baraTaSvili:

`TviTon mefenic uZlevelni,

romelT umaRles

arc vinRa aris,

da winaSe arc vin aRudges,

romelT xelT epyrasT

umaRlesi soflis dideba,

SfoTven da drtvinven da ityvian:

`rodis iqneba,

is samefoca Cveni iyos?~

da aRiZvrian

imav miwisTvis, rac dRes

Tu xval TviTve arian!~

mudmivi „SfoTven da drtvian“ da

rusTavelis lamazi fraza „rasaca

gascem Senia“, me davakavSire am meqanizmidan

gamomdinare, TviTgadarCenis

instiqtis moqmedebis meqanizmiT, misi

struqturis naxviT, es aris erTi

xis ori toti, es aris Zalian saintereso.

ratom SfoTven da ratom

aris „rasac gascem Seni“ amaze Zalian

kargad maqvs pasuxi gacemuli.

magram am pasuxma mimiyvana daskvnamde,

rom sazogadoebis ganviTarebis calkeul

etapze es meqanizmi, es struqtura

ufro rbili unda gaxdes ganviTarebuli

sazogadoebisTvis. ufro

metad humanuri unda iyos. amas gavyevi

da davubrundi ufro farTo problemas.

amis mtkicebuleba mindoda, am

mtkicebulebisaTvis me mWirdeboda

adamianebi, romelzec unda xerxdebodes

es dakvirveba da mivedi ufro

farTo cnebebTan. zemoT aRvniSne

fsiqoanaliziT gataceba da fsiqoanalitikosTa

jgufi vaxsene, mogexsenebaT

dRes udidesi problemaa fsiqiuri

daavadebebi. fsiqiuri aSlilobis

mqone adaminebis raodenoba civilizaciasTan

erTad izrdeba. kargad vici

evropaSic da amerikaSic,sadac Zalian

modaSia fsiqoTerapevti, fsiqoanalitikosi,

ver aRweven Sedegebs.

dRes fsiqiur aSlilobas miaweren

Zalian gavrcelebul narkomanias, nebismier

fobiebs, nebismier eqstemizms,

pedofilias, mogexsenebaT kun-

Zulze 70 kaci daxoca viRac Wkuidan

gadamdgarma kacma. es problemebi

12 gv.

11


12 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

11 gv.

dRevandel sazogadoebaSi arsebobs

da arsebobs Zalian bevri. me vici,

ras axerxeben fsiqoTerapevtebi da

fsiqoanalitikosebi. Cems megobrebs

albaT ewyinebaT, magram minda vTqva,

rom Sedegi Zalian mcirea, Zalian

cotaa da praqtikulad ver xorcieldeba

srulyofilad. yvelaze saintereso

isaa,rom ebrZvian Sedegs da

ara mizezs, swored am sakiTxs vukav-

Sireb Cems kvlevas. swored mizezTan

brZola da mizezi aris wignSi Zalian

garkveulad aRwerili da axsnili,

Zalian bevri specialistis, fsiqoanalitikosis,

fsiqiatris gamocdilebis

moSveliebiT. me gavixseneb alan

froms, romelic 2003 wels gardaicvala

niu-iorkSi, mas aqvs genialuri

wigni „dedaena mSoblebisaTvis“, sadac

Zalian martivi eniT aris dawerili,

rogor unda aRzardo bavSvi,

rom is iyos fsiqiurad mdgradi. amas

froidic aRwerda da froidamdec

iyo cnobilia. Cemi survili iyo, naTlad

meCvenebina is meqanizmi, rac me

movnaxe, TviTgadarCenis instiqtis

moqmedebis meqanizmi, struqtura.

romelic ganviTarebas da cvlilebas

unda ganicdides garkveuli wesiT sazogadoebis

ganviTarebasTan erTad;

magram es ar emCneva dRevandel sazogadoebas.

ufro sworad mtkicebulebebi

ar meyo da amovdi iq, rom

pirvel rigSi minda vTqva

rom gulwrfelad gamaoca eka

beriZis intervium biZina ivaniSvilTan.

es Rrma filosofiuri

saubrisaTvis Zalian mokle interviu

iyo, magram biZina ivaniSvilis

mier dasmuli sakiTxebi

vfiqrob Zalian mniSvnelovania

da amaze yvela Cvengani unda

dafiqrdes. pirvelad gavige

qarTveli biznesmenisagan aseTi

saintereso mosazrebebi `TviTgadarCenis

instiqtze~ da yvelaferi

amis kavSirze fsiqologiasTan

da bavSvTa aRzrdasTan.

sxvaTa Soris am sakiTxs dRes

bevri bihevioristi da sxva mimdinareobis

fsiqologi swavlobs

- kapitalizmis da Sizofreniis

urTierTmimarTebas - anu

ramdenad kargia adamianis (da

kerZod bavSvis) fsiqikisaTvis

mudmivi saSiSroebis (da konkurenciis)

pirobebSi yofna da

mudmivad TviTgadarCenaze fiqri.

batoni ivaniSvilis rom am

sakiTxis Zirebi unda veZioT

namdvilad sakiTxis Zalian

Rrmad dasmis tolfasia, miTumetes

adamianisagan, romelmac

liberaluri ekonomikis waylobiT

amxela finansur warmatebas

miaRwia. me ar vici biZina ivaniSvils

ra azri aqvs am sakiTx-

Tan dakavSirebiT, magram am sakiTxis

siRrmiseulad dasmac ki

dRevandel dRes Zalian didi

saqmea. bavSvebis ganaTleba da

maTTvis normaluri fisqologiuri

garemos Seqmna yvelaze

prioritetuli sakiTxi unda

iyos - miTumetes rodesac maT

mudmivad saxelmwifo mediidan

ZaladobiT da sxvadasxva socialuri

perversiebiT aSineben.

biZina ivaniSvilma Tavis

TavSi darwmunebuli adamianis

STabeWdileba datova, romlis

mizanic namdvilad politikaze

da reitingis miRwevaze ufro

farTe Cans. yovel SemTxvevaSi

me aseTi STabeWdileba damrCa.

da eWvi maqvs rom baton saakaSvilsac

igive grZnoba gauCnda.

socialuri qselebSi misi in-

`qarTuli ocneba~ CemTvis, rogorc

umravlesi qarTvelisaTvis, esaa

gamTlianebuli, gaZlierebuli,

demokratiuli qveynis aRmSenebloba

mtkicebulebebi rom miiRo, sazogadoebis

janmrTelobas am mxriv unda

is, rasac wers alan fromi (me amas

Cems Tavze ar vibraleb, da aranairi

pretenzia ar maqvs), rasac iziarebs

Zalian bevri specialisti am dargSi,

magram saocrebaa, rom ver axerxebs

vfiqrob, saakaSvils biZina

ivaniSvilis intervius Semdeg

panikis Seteva daemarTeboda

ternet-zonderebi kargad arian

Casafrebulni da maTi saguldagulod

da winaswar momzadebuli

postebic sruliad uSinaarso

iyo. ra Tqma unda saakaSvilis

propagandistebs ar eyoT

fantazia rom aseT siRrmiseul

sakiTxebze emsjelaT. amisaTvis,

rogorc minimum Jil deliozis

da feliqs gataris `kapitalizmi

da Sizofrenia~ unda

gqondes wakiTxuli - da saakaSvilis

propagand-gundi vulfovicis

da uiliam kristolis nawerebze

Sors ver wasula. adamianebs

romlebisTvisac haiaeki

da fon mizesi RmerTebi arian

verasdros gaigeben imas rom nebismier

pirovnebas undodes bav-

Svebis ganaTlebaze da fsiqologiur

mdgomareobaze zrunva.

magram me vfiqrob ivaniSvilma

Zalian saintereso diskusia daiwyo

- ramdenad aris “brZola

gadarCenisaTvis” bavSvebis fsiqikisaTvis

kargi da ramdenad

unda xelmZRvanelobdes janmr-

Teli sazogadoeba am principebiT.

kidev erTi saintereso sakiTxi,

romelic iribad daibada

Cems TavSi batoni ivaniSvilis

intervius mosmenisas aris is,

rom saWiroa daiwyos `adamianis

bunebis~ sakiTxebze farTo

diskusia Cvens sazogadoeba-

Si. zedapiruli politikuri

reitingebis Tvlisa da

dasavluri ideologiebis

(da cxovrebis stilis) martivad

gadmomRerebis magivrad

saWiroa Sinaarsiani da

Rrma msjeloba am sakiTxebze.

amaze gulwrfelad minda

komplimenti vuTxra baton

ivaniSvils. SeiZleba misi

mosazreba da daskvnebi Cemi azrebisgan

sruliad gansxvavebuli

iyos - magram am sakiTxebis

dasma TavisTavad Zalian Rirebulia

mTeli sazogadoebisaTvis.

me aseT sqemas davxatavdi -

1. TviTgadarCena - burJua

samyaros da neoliberalebis

`RmerTi~ amosavali wertili

2. socialuri darvinizmi -

rogorc `uZlieresis gadarCena~-

nevrozebis da depresiebis

erT-erTi mTavari mizezi - Zalian

cnobili Teza dRevandel

biheviorizmSic da fsiqoanalizSic

3. rusTavelis - `rasaca

gascem..~ - rogorc socialuri

solidarobis sistena - ara rogorc

socializmi - aramed rogorc

adamianuri TanagrZnobis

unari

4. baraTaSvilis `soflis

azri~ - imis SegrZneba rom Tundac

mTeli msoflios `floba~

(rac benduqiZoidi neoliberalebis

`warmatebis~ mTavari

principia) aranairad ar ganapirobebs

adamianis bednierebas.

bednieri SeiZleba `warumatebeli~

firosmani ufro iyos, vidre

`warmatebuli~ karnegi.

dRevandeli civilizacia am wesiT

cxovrebas. fromi Zalian martivad

wers, rom dedam unda gazardos Svili

3-4 wlamde, identifikaciis procesi,

fsiqiuri mSobiaroba unda moxdes

iseTive jansaRi, rogorc biologiuri

mSobiaroba. rasac verafriT

5. ganaTlebis sistemaSi damkvidreba

solidarobis da humanurobis

principebis - imisaTvis

rom Tavidan aviciloT masiuri

nevrozebi da depresiebi.

da ase Semdeg.

cxadia es yvelaferi Zalian

martivi sulac ar aris da fsiqologiasac

bevrad meti plasti

aqvs. Tumca aq Cans socialur

sakiTxebze fiqri - da rac

mTavaria ganaTlebis sistemaze,

romelic dResdReobiT mTavari

problemaa.

amave dros rac Zalian momewona

iyo is rom biZina ivaniSvili

ar apelirebda saqarTveloSi

ukve moyirWebul `liber-

alur avtoritetebs~ da maT magivrad

qarTvel poetebs da

mwerlebs esesxeboda. Zalian

mniSvnelovania azrovnebaSi biurgeruli

materializmidan humanitarizmisken

dabruneba - da

es Zalian kargia Tu biznesmenebi

humanizmis Rirebulebebze

daiwyeben apelirebas, nacvlad

junglis kanonisa.

swored amitomac vfiqrob

rom saakaSvils, romelic am

ver ubrundeba dRevandeli civilizacia;

me mindoda da survili maqvs

dResac, Cemi kvlevebiT Cavweriliyavi

am xalxis siaSi da amTTan erTad

momexerxebina, damerwmunebina Tavdapirvelad

ganviTarebuli saxelmwifoebis

mTavrobebi, rom unda Seicvalos

principulad bavSvis aRzrdis

meTodika. aseTi survili mqonda da

albaT movaxerxeb.

rac Seexeba momaval warmatebas,

pirvel rigSi, igi damokidebulia

imaze, rom sworad SevarCioT gundi,

sworad movideT, swori kadriT movideT.

amis Semdeg Cveni dapirebebi SevasruloT;

cvlilebebi realurad

unda moxdes, Cven unda gvqondes xalxis

gamosadegi konstitucia, realurad

damoukidebeli sasamarTlo, damoukidebeli

media; da rac mTavaria,

unda iyos neba imisa, rom Cinovniki

ar Caerios biznesSi. es iqneba Cveni

prioriteti da aucileblad gavake-

TebT, rasac vpirdebiT Cvens sazogdoebas.

„maestro“


siRrmeebs ver wvdeba am gadacemis

Semdeg ueWvelad misTvis

Cveuli panikis Seteva daemarTeboda

da mis dacvas mouxdeboda

dedamisis gamoZaxeba

`miSikosTvis~ tansacmlis gamosacvlelad

- da Zalian ucnaurad

daemTxva amas erosi

kiwmariSvilis aseTi Jesti.

SesaZlebelia rom batoni kiwmariSvili

damoukideblad daizafra

am dialogis danaxvaze,

radganac ivaniSvilSi dainaxa

imis safrTxe rom is da irakli

oqruaSvili ukve opoziciur

poziciebs dakargavdnen -

anki ubralod mis tele-menejerul

produserul niWs da-

emuqra safrTxe fsiqologiis

mcodne konkurentis gamoCeniT.

am intervius mere srulebiT

ar mikvirs is, rac maestroSi

xdeba da minda gavafrTxilo

qarTuli sazogadoeba: saakaSvili

da misi reJimi da misi zogierTi

egreTwodebuli opozicioneri

axla iwyebs panikur

moqmedebas, romlisTvisac sazogadoeba

mzad unda iyos.


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

``ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTiiss~~ ssttuummaarriiaa

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ppaarrllaammeennttiiss

ffrraaqqcciiaa ``eerrTToobbaa ssaammaarrTTlliiaannii

ssaammaarrTTlliiaannoobbiissaaTTvviiss~~ mmddiivvaannii

dimitri lorTqifaniZe::

_ telekompania `maestros~

irgvliv ganviTarebul movlenebs

Tavisi preistoria aqvs.

ukavSirdeba im periods, rodesac

batoni kiwmariSvili `maestros~

mmarTvelad mogvevlina.

realurad, swored is ganagebda

am kompaniis saredaqcio

politikas. faqtobrivad, erTmniSvnelovanad

ereoda Jurnalistebis

saqmianobaSi. Seqmnili

viTarebis irgvliv jer kidev

9-10 dRis win gaakeTa gancxadeba

`maestros~ erT-erTma

warmomadgenelma, im droisTvis

kompaniis generalurma direqtorma

kaxa beqaurma. Tumca,

samwuxarod, sazogadoebis

mxridan mxardaWerili ar aRmoCnda

da Tanamdebobis datoveba

mouwia.

ar mieqca yuradReba

faqts, rom kiwmariSvili ganagrZobda

saredaqcio politikis

`koreqtirebas~ xSir Sem-

TxvevaSi am politikaSi ikve-

Teboda xelisuflebis interesebi.

bolos da bolos, kiwmariSvilis

erT pirovnul mmar-

Tvelobas am arxze dasasruli

xom unda hqondes.

_ anu, faqtobrivad, `maestros~

irgvliv ganviTarebulma

movlenebma calkeuli pirebis,

xolo am konkretul Sem-

TxvevaSi kiwmariSvilis e.w.

lustracia moaxdina?-

_ diax, swored ase moxda.

kiwmariSvili garda imisa, rom

erT-erTi mediasaSualebis

xelmZRvanelia, e.w. opoziciuri

gaerTianebis `qarTuli partiis~

genmdivanic gaxlavT. am

partiis irgvliv ki bolo

wlebis ganmavlobaSi sakmaod

bevri skandali moxda. cxadia,

sazogadoeba amas iolad ar miiviwyebs.

diax.swored `qarTulma

partiam~ 26 maisis movlenebis

dros iTamaSa destruqciuli

roli, man `warmatebiT~ Seasrula

e.w. orTqlis gamoSvebis

funqciac im saxalxo procesebis

warmarTvis momentSi, rodesac

26 maisamde erTi dRiT

adre, avlabris moedanze daanonsa

e.w. mrisxanebis dRe.

ai, maSin roca, TiTqosda,

irakli oqruaSvilic unda CamobrZanebuliyo.

sabolood,

`qarTuli partiis~ moqmedebebi

sazogadoebis mxridan Seufasebeli

ar darCenila da Sesabamisad,

dResdReobiT es politgaerTianeba

sruli bankrotia.

_ batono dimitri, anu, gamoricxavT

am movlenebSi axladgamoCenili

politmoTama-

Sis _ biZina ivaniSvilis faqtors?

_ eka beriZis pirdapir

eTers biZina ivaniSvilTan, ra

Tqma unda ,xelisuflebis rigebSi

sagangaSo signali mohyva.

es rac Riad gamoCnda da

xelisuflebisaTvis civi Sxapis

efeqti iqonia, damatebiT

miiRes kuluaruli informaciac,

rom SesaZloa, garkveuli

procesebi dawyebuliyo, rac

`maestros~ damoukidebeli saredaqcio

pilitikis warmoebis

saSualebas miscemda. Segnebulad

ar minda vTqva, rom iq

wilebis gadanawilebazec iqneboda

saubari da telekompaniis

gamosyidvis procesi batoni

ivaniSvilis iniciativiT daiwyeboda.

_ ratom ar gsurT am garemoebaze

yuradRebis gamaxvileba?

_ radgan, vfiqrob, am process

SesaZloa, saerTod ar

hqondes adgili, anu, batonma

biZina ivaniSvilma uari Tqvas

telekompaniis SeZenaze. Tumca

uari ar Tqvas materialur

mxardaWeraze mxolod da mxolod

wminda mecenaturi

TvalsazrisiT, raTa qveyanaSi

erTi telekompania mainc dar-

Ces cenzurisa da koninuqturis

gareSe.

dResdReobiT, damoukidebeli

telekompaniebi, faqtobrivad,

aRar SegvrCa, mxolod

calkeuli internetteleviziebi

ase Tu ise axerxeben obieqturobis

SenarCunebas.

am viTarebaSi, rogorc

Cans, biZina ivaniSvilis ganzraxva-

daixsnas telekompaniebi

xelisuflebis marwuxebisgan

SeuniSnavi ar darCeniaT.

sruli pasuxismgeblobiT

vacxadeb, swored, saxelisuf-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.net

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

lebo kuluarebSi daigegma es

provokacia da swored xelisuflebis

xelSi aRmoCnda

erosi kiwmariSvili efeqturi

iaraRi.

baton erosis mcdeloba

hqonda procesebisTvis ramenairad

samarTlebrivi saxe mieca

da viTareba karga xnis ganmavlobaSi

ucvlelad darCeniliyo.

dRemde gamoketilia

ori dapirispirebulimxare:damfuZnebelimamuka

Rlonti da

kompaniis mmarTveli

- batoni kiwmariSvili.

am ukanasknelis

mxridan,

ismis muqarebi,

rom Zalis gamoyenebiT

gamoiyvanen

mamuka Rlonts

Senobidan da aRdgeba

mauwyebloba,

meore mxriv pasuxgaucemelia

ki-

Txvebi garemobis

kvaldakval: kerZod, roca baton

kiwmariSvils axlavs ramdenime

aTeuli piri, romlebic

aseve ukanonod arian SeWrili

kompaniaSi...

am viTarebis aRsakveTad

`maestros~ generalurma direqtorma

ilia kikabiZem gamoiZaxa

sapatrulo policiis

Semadgenloba da moxda sruliad

gamaognebeli ram: es policia

acxadebs, rom mxareebs

Soris dgas, raTa maT Soris

konfliqti ar moxdes. ra sa-

interesoa, romel mxares miekuTvneba

kiwmariSvilTan arsebuli

ramdenime aTeuli zonderjgufi,

romelTa mimarT

rogorc minimum, samarTlebrivi

reagireba mainc unda moxdes.

videokamerebiT xom kargad

gamoCnda, rom kiwmariSvilTan

erTad es pirebic gadaevlen

mesers da `maestros~

SenobaSi acocdnen. sxvaTa Soris,

tele-kompaniis Senoba

kiwmariSvilis sakuTreba ar

gaxlavT, Tavisi mepatroneebi

hyavs-damfuZnebelebi saxiT,

Sesabamisad, es kompaniaSi SeWris

faqtia da konkretuli

sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli

gaxlavT, ramdenime kvalifikaciazec

SeiZleba saubari. policielebic

ukanonod moqmedeben,

kerZod, maTi mxridan adgili

hqonda samsaxurebrivi

movaleobis gadaWarbebas.

_ Tumca meore mxriv, kiwmariSvilma

wvlili Seitana

`rusTavi-2~ SeqmnaSi, anu im

tele-kompaniis formirebaSi,

romelsac imxela gavlena

hqonda, rom qveyanaSi revolucia

moaxdina, aqeT gamomdinare,

`maestros~ Camoyalibebazec

misi wvlili udao unda iyos,

am TvalsazrsiT, ramdenad SeiZleba,

ufleba hqonoda am televiziaze,

anu am televiziis

politikis Camoyalibebaze, an

Tundac is 4 mln-i, rac man

kompaniis ganviTarebaSi Cado

araferze metyvelebs?

_ ki, `rusTavi-2~ CamoyalibebaSi,

damoukidebeli saredaqcio

politikis ganxorcielebasa

da ganviTarebaSi mas

udaod Zalian didi wvlili

miuZRvis, Tumca imaSic miuZRvis

wvlili, ai, im demokratiuli

safuZvlebis sawyisiT

ganviTarebuli `rusTavi-2~,

rogorc telekompania dRes,

rom monstrad iqca.

diax, gadaiqca xelisuflebis

operatiul-teqnikur ganayofad,is

xelisuflebis danamatia,

anu, Zalovani struqtu-

kiwmariSvili xelisuflebis

dasayrdenia da mas davalebuli

aqvs, rom `maestrom~ garkveuli

droiT arseboba Sewyvitos

rebis gagrZeleba gaxlavT.

kiwmariSvilis moRvaweobis

finalSi ai, amgvari televizia

miviReT.

Tavadac ar malavda, Riad

da sajarod ganacxada kidec:

2008 wlis 5 ianvars, roca mixeil

saakaSvils gansakuTrebiT

gauWirda legitimacia mieRo

arCevnebze da kvlav gamxdariyo

saqarTvelos prezidenti,

swored man, erosi kiwmariSvilma,

sakuTar Tavze aiRo

piarmenejmenti dakavSirebuli

saakaSvilis gaprezidentebas-

Tan da amis Semdgom uwodes

`rusTavi-2~-s gamarjvebuli

xalxis televizia, xolo Tavad

erosi kiwmariSvili mogvevlina

mTavar gmirad im gayalbebuli

da im damaxinjebuli

saarCevno Sedegebisa, ramac

sruliad aralegitimurad, magram

formalurad legitimurad

moutana Sedegebi baton prezident

saakaSvils, xolo sapasuxod,

da jildos saxiT,

kiwmariSvilma ruseTis federaciaSi

elCoba miiRo, ase

rom, swored mixeil saakaSvilis

gaprezidenetebis Sedegad

miRebuli damsaxureba gaxda

misi elCobis safuZveli.

elCi, romelmac agvistos

movlenebis Semswavleli komisiis

winaSe Riad da daufaravad

ganacxada, saqarTvelos

zraxvebi... rom, TiTqos, saakaSvils

da mis gunds gadawyvetili

hqondaT ara cxinvali

aeRoT da ara e.w. samxreT

saerTo gazeTi

oseTSi daemyarebinaT konstituciuri

wesrigi, aramed mTavari

mizani iyo, rom afxazeT-

Si SeWriliyvnen. es, rogorc

minimum uzneoba iyo im piris

mxridan, romelic sul ramdenime

Tvis win ruseTis federaciaSi

elCis Tanamdebobas ikavebda

, xolo meore mxriv,garda

uzneobebisa, namdvilad iyo

mkveTrad gamoxatuli samSoblos

Ralati.

yofilma elCma faqtobrivad

daasmina sakuTari xelisufleba

im samxedro-politikuri

RonisZiebebis seriis gaxorcielebaSi,

romelsac TiTqos,

saboloo Sedegad unda

moetana Cveni SeiaraRebuli Zalebis

afxazeTis teritoriaze

Sesvla. anu, kiwmariSvilis

Cvenebam legitimuri safuZvlebi

misca ruseTis federaciis

SeiaraRebul Zalebs, rom e.w.

zemo afxazeTis, anu kodoris

xeobis mimdebare teritoriaze

samxedro moqmedebebi ganexorcielebinaT

da okupaciis Sedegad

daepyroT es mxare.

vfiqrob, kiwmariSvilis es

gancxadebebi mTavari prokuraturis

ganxilvis Tema unda

yofiliyo. Seqmnil viTarebaze

saparalamento komisiam qalaqis

mTavar prokurors rekomendaciac

ki gaugzavna, Tumca

samwuxarod, reagireba ar mouxdeniaT.

metic, am movlenebidan

sul cota xanSi kiwmariSvilma

opozicioneris mantia

moirgo, xolo Semdgom ukve

axorcielebs mTel rig ukanono

qmedebebs telekompania `maestroSi~:axorcielebsfinansirebas,

investirebas, Semdgom

etapze qmnis politgaerTianeba

`qarTul partias~ jer erTi,

ganvixiloT ramdenad Tavsebadia

iyo erTi mxriv politgaerTianebis

genmdivani, xolo

meore mxriv mmarTveli kompaniis

xelmZRvaneli?

im kompaniis romelic erTerTi

obieqturi mauwyebelia,

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom lideria

liderTa Soris, amgvari telearxis

SeqmnaSi ki, ara vinme

kiwmariSvilis, aramed damfuZnebelTa

sisxli da oflia Caqceuli.

ai, am garemoebebis gaTvaliswinebiT,mamuka

Rlonti

pirdapir acxadebs, telekompaniis

aqciebi SesaZloa gasxvisdes,

Tumca araviTar SemTxveva-

Si ar gasxvisdeba kompaniis sakontrolo

paketi, ase rom,

damfuZneblebi sakontrolo

paketis gayidvas ar apireben.

_ mainc ram gamoiwvia `maestros~

gundSi dapirispireba?

_es procesi inspirirebulia

xelisuflebis mxridan,

maTTvis mTavar amocanas warmoadgens,

rac SeiZleba gawelon

droSi, an saerTod xeli

SeuSalon obieqturi politikis

formirebas am arxze da

mis potenciur investors kompaniaSi

Tanxis Cadebis saSualeba

ar miscen.

xelisuflebis dasayrdenia

kiwmariSvili da misi misia

mxolod maSin amoiwureba, roca

miRweuli iqneba mTavari

Sedegi, anu, tele-kompania

`,maestros~ mauwyebloba garkveuli

droiT Sewydeba.

naTia nodia

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xalxis azriT

es kaci, orianebs ver

SeeSva – axla “maestro

2”–s akeTebs?

mokled ojaxidan

rom gavdivarT erTmaneTs vafr-

TxilebT:kari Signidan Cakete,

erosi ar SemoZvres-Tqo.

Sida qarTlis soflebSi

mosaxleobas

nebayoflobiT uformeben

iaraRs da ase

eubnebian rom: SesaZlo omis

SemTxvevaSi es iaraRi iqneba

Tqvenze gaformebuli da dagirigebTo,

ai dRes magaliTad

sofel skraSi iyvnen da mosaxleobas

Sexvdnen, mosaxleobidan

visac survili qonda mivida

da Caewera, raRac provokaciis

moxdenas apireben albaT.......

vinc miva Tavisi surviliT

im adamianis saxelze

aformeben avtomats, da eubnebian

rom Tu ramea da omi daiwyovo

am iaraRs mogcemT da

samSoblos daicavo, albaT

amaT goniaT rom omi isev daiwyeba.

eqsperti lado papava

- `Tu Zalian gauWirda,

ruseTTan oms daiwyebs...

wava, amerika-

Si gaiqceva da politikur Tav-

Sesafars miiRebs, rogorc ruseTisgan

devnili prezidenti~

...dasafiqrebelia xo iciT

ise....:|mag kacisTvis amgvari qmedeba

yvelaze ganaRdebuli momavlis

Seqmnaa,magi memuarebs

ver dawers mamobilis msgavsad

da imas mainc ityvis, zviadiviT

devnili prezidenti varo...imdeni

ar audga magas.... gverdebi.

mokled aq ivaniSvilis

intervius mere

iseTi isterika daidga,

rom gadavwyvite

aucileblad momesmina. da mivxvdi,

rac moxda. ra standarts

migvaCvies am bolo wlebSi: politikosma

unda ilaparakos

primitiuli tomis ritualuri

beladiviT - agresiulad, muqaris

gamomxatveli JestikulaciiT

unda warmoTqvas sruliad

siurrealisturi da absoluturad

uazro teqsti! kulturuli

Soki miiRes frendebma,

ritualuri beladebi ur-

CevniaT gulwrfel, Rrma da

patiosan gamosvlas.

ivaniSvilis interviuze

reaqciebi feisbukSi

kidev ufro amyarebs

azrs, rom ganaTlebis

sistemas saqarTveloSi

seriozuli reforma

sWirdeba. adamianebi, romelTagan

velodi ivaniSvilis konceptebis

jansaR kritikas an

ganxilvas Tu ara, politikas-

Tan dakavSirebas mainc, imdenad

gaugebar komentarebs weren

rom daskvna erTia _ ganaTlebis

deficiti

“maestros” Tavze,

erosis droSa frialebs

– “maestro”

Tavisufalia! gamarjvebuli

xelisuflebis televizia!!!!

droSas ra axatia, kvercxebi?:

1 welia arCevnebamde

da ra gaiSifren mamali

bozebi?! ;))))))))

cirkia. swori fsiqoanalizi

Cautarebia guSin bi-

Zos. miSam gaubera Rameve zna-

Cit. ramdeni daujda neta erosis

reidi?

erosi kiwmariSvili

isev miSas saqmes ake-

Tebs... saswrafod unda

Seikribos damfuZnebelTa

kreba da mag naZiralas

CamoerTvas kompaniis marTvis

ufleba... msgavsi namusgarecxili

arseba ar arsebobs. kaci

rom viyo, Tav-ybas gavuerTianebdi.

eg fulis mruSi, ega...

natos specialuri

warmomadgeneli jeims

apaturai gaugonar

sicrueSi amxels xelisuflebas

da kerZo televiziebs

da ambobs, rom 90% sul

tyuili iyo, rac televiziebiT

gadaica... samarcxvino xelisufleba

gvyavs..

erosa raRac seriozuls

CaliCobs. ekonomikis ministroba

unda mgoni

ra xdebao, rom

kiTxulobT,is xdeba

rac unda moxdes,aba

ris qarTvelebi varT

,Tu raRac ucnaurobebi ar CavidineT,gauxurdaT

biWebs ,,baSkebi,,da

aeWraT goneba,ubralo

xalxi ki....

SemogvierTdi

facebook-ze

`saerTo gazeTi~

Rlont-kiwmariSvilis davisa

da damalobanas TamaSSi 2 dRis

ganmavlobaSi ,,maestros~ Jurnalistebi

forsmaJorul situaciaSi

muSaobdnen. meore sarTulze gamagrebul

e.w ,,Rlontis sastavs~

saWmelic ar hqondaT da pirvel

sarTulze darCenili Jurnalistebi

Tokis saSualebiT ugzavnidnen.

amave formiT xdeboda Senobis meore

sarTulze Cipebi, sadac gadaRebuli

masala iyo aRbeWdili. urTierTobebi

SedarebiT daTba meore

diliT. maSin,roca kiwmariSvilma

RlontTan molaparakebis survili

gamoTqva. Rlontisganac Tanxmoba

miiRo, Tumca mamuka Rlontma ganacxada,

rom molaparakebis magidasTan

mxolod im SemTxvevaSi

dajdeboda Tu kiwmariSvili televizias

daubrunebda e.w. status

skvos, anu pirvandel mdgomareobas.

Tumca kiwmarSvilisgan araerTgvarovani

pasuxi miiRo. amis Semdeg

saqmeSi e.w Suamavlebi mediatorebi

CaerTvnen. daZabuli molaparakebebi

pirvel-meore sarTulebs Soris

eqvsi saaTi grZeldeboda, romelic

bevrisTvis moulodnelad uSedegod

dasrulda. mZime saubris Semdeg

,,maestros~ UJurnalistebma

teqnikur mxaresTan erTad daatoves

nucubiZis 93 nomeri da gadainacvles

rados SenobaSi sadanac

mauwyebloba dRmde mimdinareobs.

amgvari gadawyvetilebis mizezad

mamuka Rlontma kiwmariSvilisgan

mosalodneli provokaciis

safrTxe daasaxela. “maestros” generaluri

prodiuseri ar gamoricxavda,

rom es provokaciebi samoqalaqo

dapirispirebaSi gadaizrdiliyo.

“gvqonda molaparakebebi,

romelic fiaskoTi damTavrda, mzad

viyaviT garkveul daTmobebze wavsuliyaviT,

magram erosi kiwmariSvilma

moindoma_an yvelaferi an

araferi, rasac vewinaRmdegebiT”,_aRniSna

Rlontma. misi

TqmiT, “maestro” gaagrZelebs

funqcionirebas, oRond sxva SenobaSi,

erosi kiwmariSvilTan dava ki

samarTlebriv WrilSi gadava.

arxis mmarTveli kompaniiis

xelnRRvanelma erosi kiwmariSvilma,

Tavis mxriv, mamuka Rlonti isteriul

provokaciaSi daadanaSaula.

misi gancxadebiT, man Senobidan

waiyvana “sruliad dabneul

mdgomareobaSi myofi Jurnalistebi”

da gaitaca im telekompaniis

aparatura, romelSic mas 4 naxevari

milioni lari aqvs moziduli.

kiwmariSvilis rwmunebiT, marTvis

kompania Cveulebrivad gaagrZelebs

im saqmianobas, rasac 30 noembramde

awarmoebda. misi mtkicebiT,

man yvelaferi gaakeTa molaparakebebis

Sedegianad dasrulebisTvis,

Tumca molaparakeba ar Sedga. “maestros”

damfuZneblebma biZina ivaniSvilis

gamoCenis Semdeg azrovnebis

unari dakarges. maT marTvis

kompaniis Canacvlebisa da sxva finansebis

mozidvis cduneba gauCndaT”,

- ganacxada kiwmariSvilma.

informacias imis Sesaxeb, rom

,,maestros~ gayidvasTan dakavSirebiT

molaparakebebi biznesmen biZina

ivaniSvilTan mimdinareobs, arxis

produseri mamuka Rlonti katego-

riulad uaryofs. misi

TqmiT, telekompaniis wilebis

gasxviseba da gayidva

ganxilvasac ar eqvemdebareba.

mTavari mizezi ki,

ris gamoc uTanxmoeba arxis

damfuZneblebsa da

mmarTvel kompanias Soris

daiwyo, finansebia. mamuka

Rlontis TqmiT, telekompanias

hqonda davalianeba

satelitTan, ris

Sesaxeb araerTxel acnobes

marTveli kompaniis

warmomadgenels, Tumca

uSedegod. kiwmariSvils

undoda Jurnalistebis ganaxevreba,

xelfasebis Semcireba, rac ar davuSviT,_aRniSna

Rlontma.

Tumca erosi kiwmariSvili sxa

versiebze saubrobs. misi TqmiT, arxma

obieqturoba dakarga, aramiznobrivad

ixarjeboda Tanxebi, JurnalistebTan

da operatorebTan SedarebiT

damfuZneblebsa da xelm-

ZRvanelebs kolosaluri xelfasebi

hqondaT, ramac maiZula gadamedga

Sesabamisi nabijebi_ganacxada,

erosi kiwmariSvilma. Tumca ratom

daamTxvia kiwmariSvilma ,,maestro-

Si~ viTarebis gamosworeba maincdamainc

qveyanaSi Seqmnil politikur

mdgomareobas, cxadia, aCens kiTxvas:

xom ar aris es xelisuflebis

dakveTa? miT ufro maSin, roca

Jurnalistebma telekompaniis

mimdebare teritoriaze Sav jipSi

Sss analitikuri departamentis

ufrosi SoTa utiaSvilic daafiqsires.

Tumca erosi kiwmariSvili

kiTxvaze_ ratom daamTxvia msgavsi

qmedeba qveyanaSi Seqmnil viTarebas,

an manamde ratom ar gaarkvia ,,maestroSi~ESeqmnili

mdgomareoba,ase

ganmartavs: is rac ,,maestroze~

xdeba, saerTo ar aqvs qveyanaSi

Seqmnil politikur mdgomareobas-

Tan. es araa xelisuflebis mier inspirirebuli

procesi. Tumca cxadia,

is, rac aq xdeba, xelisufle-

bis wisqvilze asxams wyals,_aRniSna

kiwmariSvilma. ,,qarTuli

partiis~ Tavmjdomarisgan gansxvavebiT,

politikosebi, uflebadamcvelebi

da sazogadoebis warmomadgeneli

telekompaniaSi Seqmnil

mdgomareobas pirdapir ukavSireben

saqarTveloSi Seqmnil politikur

viTarebas. maTTvis miuRebelia erosi

kiwmariSvilis qmedeba, miT ufro

maSin, roca man Jurnalistebs

profesiuli saqmianobis SesrulebaSi

xeliESeuSala.

nana kakabaZe, uflebadamcveli_

es aris pirdapiri terori Tavisufal

mediaze, romelic pirdapir

ukavSirdeba ,,maestroze~ biZina

vakxanalia

kiwmariSvili-Rlontis teleduetma

sruli fiasko ganicada

ivaniSvilis gamoCenas. imedi maqvs,

rom sazogadoeba Seqmnili mdgomareobis

gamosasworeblad yvelafers

gaakeTebs.

viqtor doliZe, ,,Tavisufali

demokratebis wevri~_ dRes erosi

kiwmariSvili xelisuflebis xel-

Si brma iaraRi aRmoCnda, romelmac

gadawyvita swored am formiT moagvaros

problemebi. is, rac ,,maestroSi~

xdeba, yvelanairi Sefasebis

kriteriums scildeba. erosi

kiwmariSvili aris wminda wylis

provokatori da rasac is Cadis

sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulia. vimedovneb,

xelisufleba dagegmils

ver ganaxorcielebs da arxi Cveul

reJimSi gaagrZelebs muSaobas.

nino zuriaSvili, studia ,,monitori~

_ is,rac dRes telekompaniis

garSemo xdeba da rasac kiwmariSvili_Rlonti

erToblivad

akeTben amiT Jurnalistebs xels

uSlian profesiuli saqmianobis

SesrulebaSi.

dRes yvel Tanxmdeba, rac ,,maestros~

irgliv xdeba, pirvel

rigSi, Jurnalistebs da arxis mayureblebs

azaralebs. Tumca am

etapze telekompania mauwyeblobas

radio_eTeridan agrZelebs. erosi

kiwmariSvili ki nucubiZis 93 nomerSi

arxis SenobaSia gamagrebuli.

is telekompaniis funqcionirebis

aRdgenas kvlav apirebs, rogor

da ra formiT_gaurkvevelia. miT

ufro maSin roca Rlontis gancxadebiT,

maesrtos mauwyeblobis

locenzia mxolod da mxolod maT

ekuTvniT. “eTerSi saidanac gvinda,

romeli ofisidanac, iqidan gavalT.

licenzias studia “maestros” damfuZneblebi

floben. ase rom, maregulirebeli

komisiisTvis mimarTviT

kiwmariSvili verafers miaRwevs.

maSin pirdapir saakaSvili unda

gamovides da Tqvas, rom xuravs

“maestros” _ aRniSna mamuka Rlontma.

miranda nabaxteveli


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

msoflio presis mixedviT

politikur TamaSebSi axal-

CarTulma qarTvelma miliarderma

biZina ivaniSvilma Tavis

cixesimagreSi miiwvia The Sunday

Telegraph-is reportiori

da sxva ucxoeli Jurnalistebi,

raTa msoflios Tavi warudginos.

ivaniSvilis minisa da foladis

saxli, romelic saqarTvelos

dedaqalaqs gadmohyurebs,

hai-tekis stilis sasaxles gagonebT

da xelovnebis fasdaudebeli

namuSevrebiT aris savse.

maspinZlis TqmiT, igi mzad aris,

sakuTari qoneba saqarTvelos

gadarCenas Seswiros.

es kompleqsi, romelic 10

weliwadi Sendeboda da 30 milioni

girvanqa sterlingi dajda,

iaponelma futuristma arqiteqtorma

sin takamacum daaproeqta.

saxlis saxuravze vertmfrenis

asafreni moedania. 10 aTas

kvadratul metr teritoriaze

arsebobs minis koSki, romelSic

mrgvali formis auzia. mis Tavze

ki giganturi mbrunavi foladis

burTia, romelSic ganlagebulia

kafe, xolo saxlis gar-

Semo gaSenebul baRSi msoflos

cnobil xelovanTa skulpturebia.

personali eleqtruli

golfqarebiT moZraobs, xolo

dacvis Savsamosiani TanamSromlebi

erTmaneTs raciis meSveobiT

ukavSirdebian.

hai-tekis interieric aranakleb

uCveuloa. iq eqsponirebulia

xelovnebis nimuSebis mniSvnelovani

koleqcia, romelic

daaxloebiT erTi miliardi dolaris

Rirebulebisaa. pablo pikasos

`dora maari katasTan er-

Tad~ (2006 wels 95 milion

dolarad nayidi) erT-erT kedelzea

ganTavsebuli, xolo

egon Siles 40-milioniani tilo

mTavar ofiss amSvenebs. saintereso

detali: fulebze monadire

mTavrobas zedmeti yuradReba

rom ar gamoeCina, originalebi

londonSia gadanaxuli.

am minis sasaxlis kari, romelic

wlebis ganmavlobaSi Carazuli

iyo, axlaxan gaixsna gare

samyaros cnobismoyvare TvalisTvis.

gaicaniT biZina ivaniSvili,

qarTveli bankiri da oligarqi,

romlis qoneba daaxloebiT 3,5

miliard girvanqa sterlingad

aris Sefasebuli da msoflios

umdidres adamianTa Soris 185-e

adgilzea. daojaxebulia, hyavs

oTxi Svili. 55 wlis magnati

aqamde ZiriTadad imiT iyo cnobili,

rom uCinrad cxovrobda _

praqtikulad arsad Cndeboda,

presas erTaderTxel misca interviu

da praqtikulad misi

fotoc iSviaToba iyo. igi gamocana

gaxldaT.

igi 1956 wels daibada saqarTveloSi.

maRaroelis mSvidad

mosaubre vaJma sakuTari

aRmasvla moaxerxa _ daiwyo

qarxnis damlageblobiT, sabolood

ki, mezobel ruseTSi

farTo biznes-imperia Seqmna. daaxloebiT

ori Tvis win Crdilidan

gamovida, raTa politika-

Si CaerTos; Tanac, yofili sab-

WoTa kavSiris strategiulad

mniSvnelovan qveyanaSi mTavar

Tanamdebobas umiznebs.

ivaniSvils SevxvdiT missave

ofisSi, romelsac misi sayvareli

namuSevrebi, maT Soris

klod monec amSvenebs. mas acvia

ucxoeli Jurnalistebi stumrad

biZina ivaniSvilis cixesimagreSi

Zvirfasi, magram sada da eleganturi

ruxi italiuri kostiumi,

ukeTia saaTi Rado, uzadod

aris davarcxnili, laparakobs

auRelveblad, im adamianis TavdajerebiT,

vinc miCveulia, rom

dasaxuls yovelTvis aRwevs.

yovelnairad cdilobs aRniSnos,

rom gansakuTrebiT ar uyvars

politika, arc xangrZliv

droze gaTvlili politikuri

ambiciebi gaaCnia, 55 wlis asak-

Si axali karieris dawyebas er-

Civna, metimetad arasajaro

cxovreba gaegrZelebina.

`bolo dromde Cemi cxovrebis

wesi iyo ganmartoeba, daxuruloba,

praivasi~, _ ambobs igi.

`ar miyvarda oficialuri Sexvedrebi,

radgan igi Tavisuflebas

marTmevda. momwonda drois

gatareba megobrebTan, sadac is

viyavi, rac sinamdvileSi var da

ar mWirdeboda niRbis morgeba~.

Tumca, misive TqmiT, igi

Tavs valdebulad miiCnevs, miatovos

Tavisi karCaketiloba

samSoblos gadasarCenad, romelsac

qveynis axlandeli mTavroba,

mixeil saakaSvilis meTaurobiT,

diqtaturis safrTxiT

emuqreba.

`unda vaRiaro, rom arCevanic

ki ar mqonda~, _ ganagrZobs

igi da misi xma energiuli da

Zlieri xdeba. `es arCevani sam-

Soblos exeba~.

`maT Cakles demokratia, ver

itanen gansxvavebul azrs,

aRarc masmedia arsebobs. es

aris Semdgari avtoritaruli

mTavroba da imis niSnebic arsebobs,

rom igi diqtaturaSi gadaizardos~.

ivaniSvili darwmunebulia:

Tuki generaluri gegmis ganxorcieleba

moxerxdeba, is da misi

momxreebi iolad moigeben saparlamento

arCevnebs da igi qveynis

premier-ministri gaxdeba,

anu daikavebs im Tanamdebobas,

romelic savaraudod ufro did

ZalauflebiT iqneba aRWurvili,

vidre prezidenti.

`ori weliwadi premier-ministrad

vimuSavebdi, Semdeg ki

sazogadoebrivi muSaobiT davkavdebi~,

_ ganmartavs igi msubuqi

rusuli aqcentiT.

`arasodes miyvarda politika;

magram axla erTaderTi var,

visac xalxi endoba~.

politikur arenaze gamosvlis

gadawyvetilebam misi bevri

kritikosi saxtad datova. isini

ivaniSvils bralad sdeben kremlis

marionetobasa da qveynis

rusuli gavlenis qveS dabrunebis

mcdelobas. maTi argumentebi

aseTia: `misi qoneba ruseTSia

da gvaqvs safuZveli vifiqroT,

rom moskovs masze zemoqmedebis

mZlavri berketebi gaaCnia...~

es simarTlea _ batoni ivaniSvili

mWidrod aris dakavSirebuli

ruseTTan. rusuli pasportis

mflobelma (mas safrangeTis

moqalaqeobac gaaCnia da

bolo dromde qarTuli pasportic

hqonda) qoneba 90-iani

wlebis ruseTSi daagrova. kompiuterebis

realizaciis Semdeg

sabanko seqtorsa da metalurgiaze

gadaerTo. muSaoba uwevda

sastik da xandaxan arakanonier

velze da misi kritikosebis

mtkicebiT, winsvlisTvis aucileblad

sWirdeboda politikur

saqmosnebTan mWidro urTierToba.

baton ivaniSvils kvlavindeburad

gaaCnia aqtivebi ruseTSi,

maT Sorisaa uZravi qonebis imperia,

qimiuri qarxnebi, agreTve

ruseTis energetikuli gigantis

_ Ãàçïðîì-is aqciebi.

aRiarebs, rom icnobda postsabWouri

periodis ruseTis

pirvel prezident boris elcins,

magram dabejiTebiT ambobs,

rom arasodes Sexvedria putins

da arc kremlis marionetia. man

ganacxada rusuli aqtivebis gayidvis

Sesaxeb da ar apirebs

naTqvamis ukan waRebas, raTa da-

amtkicos msgavsi braldebebis

usafuZvloba.

`xelisuflebas Cem winaaRmdeg

sxva argumenti ar gaaCnia

da amitomac cdilobs, iseT adamianad

warmomaCinos, romelic

ruseTis saxeliT moqmedebs. yovelTvis

sindidis karnaxiT

vcxovrobdi, Cemi warsuli suf-

Taa. ruseTSi ukve cxra welia

ar vyofilvar da im xalxma,

vinc me micnobs, icis, rom ar

ganvekuTvnebi im adamianebs, viszec

zemoqmedebas moaxden, rom

vinmes paikis roli Seasrulos~.

igi araorazrovnad laparakobs

baton putinze warsulSi

da acxadebs, rom `ruseTi arademokratiuli

saxelmwifos

uaresi magaliTi ar aris~, rom

rus xalxs uyvars batoni putini

da is `maTi arCevania~. 2008

wels saqarTvelom waago ruseTTan

xuTdRiani omi, dakarga

Tavisi teritoriis oci procenti

da or qveyanas Soris urTierToba

gaiyina. Tumca batoni

ivaniSvili darwmunebulia, rom

mas ZaluZs am urTierTobebis

aRdgena, dakarguli teritoriebis

dabruneba...

mas Semdeg, rac batonma ivaniSvilma

sajaro gancxadeba gaakeTa

politikaSi CarTvis Sesaxeb,

mas CamoarTves saqarTvelos

moqalaqeoba, mTavrobis mier

kontrolirebadma mediasaSualebebma

daiwyes misi lanZRva, gaitaces

misi bankis sainkasacio

manqana, romliTac milioni girvanqa

sterlingi gadahqondaT,

xolo misi politikuri Stabbina

faqtobrivad waarTves.

batoni ivaniSvili, romelic

sul male daafuZnebs Tavis politikur

moZraobas `qarTuli

ocneba~, imiT aris dakavebuli,

rom cdilobs Seqmnas aliansi

saqarTvelos wamyvan politikur

partiebTan da imazec Tanaxmaa,

rom maT dasafinanseblad saku-

Tari uZiro jibec ar dazogos.

rogorc TviTon ambobs, axlandeli

xelisuflebis damarcxebis

rwmenas is aZlevs, rom

mas Cveulebriv qarTvelebSi SeubRalavi

_ filantropis imiji

gaaCnia. man daafinansa Tbilisis

udidesi taZris mSenebloba, guluxvad

uxdida `xelfasebs~

aseulobiT, SesaZloa aTaseulobiT

adamians, msaxiobebiT

dawyebuli da balerinebiT dam-

Tavrebuli da acxadebs, rom

qvelmoqmedebaze TveSi saSualod

aT milion dolars xarjavs.

misi mSobliuri soflis mosaxleoba

yovelTviurad iRebs

80 girvanqa sterlingis odenobis

fulad saCuqars, xolo Tu

vinme daojaxebas gadawyvets,

ivaniSvili uZRvnis saqorwino

saCuqars _ 1200 girvanqa sterlings

da qorwilis mTlian

xarjebs. garda amisa, maT ufasod

uremonteben saxlebs, axlebsac

ki uSeneben, romelic

sayofacxovrebo teqnikiTa da

avejiT aris gawyobili.

ivaniSvilis TqmiT, saukeTeso,

rac mas qonebam misca, is

aris, rom igi Tavisufali da

damoukidebelia xelisuflebisgan,

romelic ase sZags da romelsac

ase eSinia misi.

`ras niSnavs fufunebiT

cxovreba? me maqvs saxli, vila

Cems sofelSi, vila zRvis sanapiroze

da es adgili. yoveldRe

vvarjiSob iogaSi, dReSi er-

Txel vWam, cota xilsac geaxlebiT

da erT bokal Rvinos

vsvam. TveSi erTxel vikribebiT

axlo megobrebi... Tumca mec da

Cems meuRlesac ar mogvwons

TvalSisacemi fufuneba~.

ambobs, rom es cixesimagre

imitom aaSena, rom jer kidev

studentobis dros moswonda

mis siaxloves gaSenebuli botanikuri

baRi. miuxedavad imisa,

rom msoflio donis xelovnebis

nimuSebi gaaCnia, ambobs, rom

`xelovnebis didad moyvaruli

ar aris~. igi TiTqos agrovebs

koleqcias gugenhaimis msgavsi

muzeumisTvis, romlis gaxsnasac

saqarTveloSi gegmavs.

dResdReobiT, misi motivaciaa

ara fuli, aramed rogorc

TviTon ambobs, brZola gaRaribebuli

saqarTvelos ukeTesobisken

Sesacvlelad.

`Cemi fuli imas niSnavs, rom

me erTaderTi Tavisufali adamiani

var maT Soris, vinc aq

cxovrobs. maT ar SeuZliaT Cemi

kontroli. SemiZlia ar viyo

politikosi, magram sicocxlis

bolomde vibrZoleb imisTvis,

risic mwams~.

inosmi.ru

internetmimoxilva moamzada

gulbaaT WavWavaZem.

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16 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

mogzauroba samSobloSi

TelaTgori

niCbisis Semdeg arcTu ise

Sors gza samad itoteba: erTi

TelaTgorisken midis, meore _

winarexisa da qvaTaxevisken, mesame

_ kavTisxevisa da kaspisken.

mkiTxveli Tavdapirvelad TelaTgorisken

unda gaviyolo.

rac aqaurebs davunaTesavdi,

vin moTvlis ramdenjer amivlia

am gzaze. mis dasawyisSi arqeologebma

antikuri naqalaqaris

kvalic ki aRmoaCines (Zv.w.-is III

s _ ax.w.-is III s), magram mere

cxovreba Zalian didi xniT, mgoni,

XVII saukunemde Camkvdara. es

arcaa gasakviri. aqauroba xom

mudmiv brZolis vels warmoadgenda

(bolos am midamoebSi 1728

wels qarTvelTa laSqarma lekebi

da osmalebi daamarcxa). aseTi

daskvnis safuZvels maZlevs sofelSi

mdgari wminda giorgisa

da wminda Tevdores erTmaneTze

midgmuli da erT WerqveS moqceuli

is ori saydari, romelic

swored am periodisa unda iyos.

ufro Zvel sofels eklesiac

ufro Zveli eqneboda, amaze uxnesi

taZris kvali ki uSualod

TelaTgorSi jerjerobiT aRmo-

Cenili ar aris. amJamad sofel-

Si 250 komlia: qvliviZeebi, lavrelaSvilebi,

dabrundaSvilebi,

nadiraSvilebi, mRebriSvilebi,

orbeliZeebi, WinWaraulebi, musxeliZeebi

da muxigulaSvilebi.

amaTgan yvelaze didi gvaria muxigulaSvili

(igive muxiguli),

romelic adre JuJunaZe yofila

da musxeliZesTan erTad uravlis

xeobis sofel musxidan (axalcixis

r-ni) Camosaxlebula.

ufalma acxonoT orTav Sina

cxovrebas, am gvaris warmomadgenlebi

xandazmulobiT yvelasgan

gamoirCevian. aseve mosulebi

unda iyvnen mRebriSvilebi (kaxe-

Tidan) da WinWaraulebi (xevsureTidan).

dabrundaSvilebi adre

morCilaZeebi yofilan, aqedan wasulan

da, rogorc axlandeli

gvari gveubneba, ukanve dabrunebulan.

qvliviZeebi da orbeliZeebi,

qarTlis aznaurebi unda yofiliyvnen.

nadiraSvilebis gvari

TelaTgoris zeda ubnis dasaxlebidan_nadirT

ubnidan momdinareobs.

Zalian sainteresoa lavrelaSvilebis

warmomavloba. TelaTgors

samxreTiT, daaxloebiT

2-3 kilometrSi aris mcire sofeli

lavrisxevi, romelsac amave

saxelwodebis xevi Camoudis.

soflis, xevis da gvaris fuZe

momdinareobs Soriaxlos, tyeSi

mdebare RvTismSoblis saxelobis

lavridan, romelic X saukuniT

TariRdeba. swored eklesiis

aseTi daTariReba gvaZlevs imis

safuZvels, rom lavrisxevi Zalian

Zvel dasaxlebad miviCnioT.

savaraudoa, rom TelaTgoric ZiriTadad,

am soflis namati mo-

saxleobiT gacocxlda. lavrisxevi

samonastro sofeli, xolo

lavrelaSvilebi, SeiZleba, saeklesio

ymebi iyvnen.

lavra

lavris xevs aRmarT da aRmarT

gaWirvebiT mivuyvebiT. mokle

gza iseTi iwroSia, `nivam~

lamis kldes gausvas gverdebi.

1,5 kilometrSi tyiani borcvidan

eklesiis gumbaTi gamogvexmaura.

movsulvarT!... eklesiis galavnidan

mcire naSTebiRaa SemorCenili.

ezos erT kuTxeSi,

xis ZirSi, satrapezo inventaria

miwyobili _ rogorc Cans, aq

martooden saeklesio dResaswaulze

ar amodian. lavra vaxuSti

batoniSvilis drosac umoZRvrod

yofila: `winarexs aRmosavliT

da gomijvris zeiT ars monasteri

lavra, gunbaTiani, Sveniers

adgils da aw uqmad~. miuxedavad

amisa, Tavad taZari jerjerobiT

mxned gamoiyureba, radgan

XIX saukuneSi SeukeTebiaT.

amave periodSia igi Signidan galesili

da moxatulic. amJamad

es TeTri nalesoba da arakanonikuri

mxatvroba umeteswilad Camocvenilia,

xolo xis iataki da

kankeli_dazianebuli.

lavra X saukunis I naxevris

Zeglia. igi mcire zomis, kvadratTan

miaxloebul mocemulobaSi

Camjdari (9,5X9m) Tavisufali

tipis jvargumbaTovani ta-

Zaria, nagebia qviSaqvis, bazaltisa

da tufis natexi qviT, Tumca

konstruqciul nawilebSi Tlili

kvadrebia gamoyenebuli. rvawaxnaga

gumbaTis yeli ara afrebiT,

aramed trompebiT aris asuli

mklavTa TaRebiT Seqmnili

araswori kvadratidan. taZars

ori Sesasvleli aqvs _ dasavle-

Tisa da CrdiloeTis mklavebidan.

winarexi

lavris xeviT ukan veSvebiT

da mere, TelaTgoris gavliT,

xeobis ZiriTadi mdinaris _ kav-

Turis paralelurad mimaval

gzas mivuyvebiT. sofel winarex-

Si SevdivarT. misi saxelwodeba

ZirZveli qarTulidan ase `iTargmneba~:

wina daba-sadgomi. aqve

vityvi, rom CvenSi arsebobs ase-

Ti soflebic _ rexa (walkis rni),

qvemo rexa da zemo rexa

(goris r-ni), gudarexi (TeTriwyaros

r-ni) da sxva. aRsaniSnavia,

rom Zvelad bunebriv Tu

xelovnur gamoqvabulsac ara

marto qvabi, aramed parexic erqva.

aq sxva magaliTebis CamoTvlac

SeiZleba.

winarexi rom qarTlis erTerTi

uZvelesi sofelia, eklesiaTa

siZveliTa da simravliTac

dgindeba. yvelaze Zveli saydari

`wm. Tedore~, romelic soflis

CrdiloeT ubanSi, SemaRlebul

adgilzea wamomarTuli, VII-VIII

saukuneebisaa. sul sofelSi 9

eklesiaa. maT Sorisaa qvaTaxevisa

da maRalaanis cnobili xuroTmoZRvruli

kompleqsebi, miuvali

`TavkavTa~, botisis

`RvTismSobeli~, `elia~, sakur-

Txisis `macxovari~, `jvaripatiosani~,

zeviT naxsenebi `wm. Tevdore~

da ganaxlebuli `RvTism-

Sobeli~, romelic dasaxlebis

centrSi, kuWuWianT ubanSia. eklesia

galavanSia moqceuli da

dasavleTidan midgmuli aqvs

koSki, romelsac saqalebos funqcia

SeuZenia _ igi eklesiasTan

kvali waruxoceli

kavTis xeoba

maRalaanis monastris xedebi da samkaulebi. didi koSki.

erTad erTiani saxuraviT aris

gadafaruli. kldis fleTili

qviT nagebi saydaris aRmosavleT

fasadze weria: `saxeliTa RmrTisaiTa

da meoxebiTa wmindisa sionisa

RmrTismSobelisaiTa, Rirs

viqmen me codvili Tbilel mTavarepiskoposi

barnaba favneliSvili

aSenebad wmindisai amis eklesiisa

salocvelad da sadideblad

mefeT mefisa svimonisaTvis

da sacxoneblad codvilisa

sulisa CemisaTvis. 1588 weli~.

meore warweraSi ixsenieba

kidev erTi Tbileli episkoposi

iese, romelsac es taZaric mouxatvinebia

da paralelurad wm.

stefanes saxelobis sxva saydaric

augia XVII saukuneSi.

maRalaani

sofel winarexSi, romelic

daaxloebiT, 270 komls iTvlis,

winarexis RvTismSobeli da lavris taZari.

11 gvaris xalxi cxovrobs: mWedliSvilebi,

qeSelaSvilebi, xmalaZeebi,

donaZeebi, berbiWaSvilebi,

kuWuWiSvilebi, qavTaraZeebi,

SarmanaSvilebi, bedoiZeebi, axvledianebi

da marjaniZeebi.

maT Soris aRar arian warCinebuli

maRalaZeebi, anu igive ma-

RalaSvilebi. winarexSi arsebuli

maTi sasaxle, 1764 wlis aRweris

wignis Tanaxmad, am drois-

Tvis ukve damwvari yofila.

ioane batoniSvilis saistorio

Txzulebis mixedviT, imereTidan

1415 wels gadmosuli maRalaZeebi

aleqsandre dids metexSi dausaxlebia

da aznauroba uboZebia.

maRalaZeebs TavianTi mamulebis

erTi nawili mcxeTis eklesiisTvis

SeuwiravT da sakaTalikoso

aznaurebic gamxdaran.

warCinebuli gvari mogvianebiT

winarexSi dasaxlebula da didi

saqmeebi ukeTebia. maRalaZeebi

gansakuTrebiT XVII saukunis meore

naxevridan dawinaurdnen. nikoloz

maRalaZe sveticxovlis

qadagi xdeba, misi Svili papua _

sveticxovlis saxlTuxucesi,

xolo SviliSvili nikolozi _

isev sveticxovlis qadagi (misi

saxeli sveticxovlis sakur-

Txevlis sarkmlis qveS weria).

am ukanasknels 1704 wels sasxorSi,

niCbisTan axlos, gardacvlili

dis xvaraSanis sulis

saxseneblad, mTavarangelozis

eklesia augia da mouxatvinebia

(es eklesia dRemdea SemorCenili,

Tumca Zalian mZime mdgomareobaSia).

maRalaZeTa mTavari

yuradReba winarexzea gadatanili,

sadac sasaxleebsa da koSkebs

ageben. `maRalaanT kompleqsi~

winarexidan qvaTaxevSi mimavali

gzis Sua monakveTSia. aq,

eklesiasTan erTad, vxvdebiT papua

maRalaZis mier agebul samrkelos,

saZvales (eklesiis ezo-

Si), zemo koSksa da afTiaqs

(gzis meore mxares), solomon

maRalaZis agebul kidev erT samreklos

da sxv. bevri ram aqvs

gakeTebuli nikoloz II maRala-

Zes. swored am gvars unda vumadlodeT

aq mdgari XII saukunis

`beTlemis RvTismSoblis~ gadar-

Cenas. es mozrdili darbazuli

eklesia (12,2X10,6 m), Tavisi

samxreTis ekvderiT, ganviTarebuli

Suasaukuneebis saqarTvelos

ubrwyinvales darbazul saydar-

Ta Sorisaa oqrosferi, aqa-iq

zurmuxtisferi qviSaqvis suf-

Tad gaTlili perangi samkaulTa

kaskadiT gamoirCeva. qvaTaxevisken

mimavali mgzavri: turisti

Tu momlocveli, aq Tu ar SeCerda,

bevrs waagebs, radgan Tamaris

epoqis es Zegli erT-erTi uiSviaTesi

xuroTmoZRvruli nimuSia.

warmoidgineT, rom igi arafriT

udebs tols qvaTaxevs.

gela qoqiaSvili

avtoris fotoebi


#49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

romel uwyebebs eqnebaT yvelaze didi

dafinanseba 2012 wlis saxelmwifo biujetis

proeqtis mixedviT; programuli

biujeti _ miTi Tu realoba; qamrebis SemoWeris

Tu Semoxsnis politika; ra xdeba

realurad _ izrdeba Tu klebulobs

Semosavlebi da ramden milion lars miaRwevs

2012 wlis biujetSi sagareo da

saSinao valze gadasaxdeli Tanxa am Temebze

`Tavisufali demokratebis~ ekonomikuri

mimarTulebis xelmZRvanelma daviT

onofriSvilma Sexvedra gamarTa.

privilegirebuli uwyebebi

iseve, rogorc 2011 wels, momavali

wlis prioritetebis CamonaTvali analogiuria.

yvelaze didi dafinanseba 2012

wlisTvis Semdegma uwyebebma moipoves:

Sromis, janmrTelobisa da socialuri

dacvis saministro _ 1,7 miliardi lari;

regionuli ganviTarebisa da infrastruqturis

saministro _ 920, 3 milioni lari;

Tavdacvis saministro _ 675 milioni

lari; sagareo da saSinao valebis momsaxureoba

_ 585 milioni lari; Sinagan saqmeTa

saministro _ 584 milioni lari; ganaTlebisa

da mecnierebis saministro _

580 milioni lari; soflis meurneobis saministro

_ 100 mln. saxelisuflebo wreebi

didi xania mosaxleobas programul biujets

pirdebian, sadac wesiT gawerili

unda iyos, Tu raSi ixarjeba TiToeuli

TeTri, Tumca miuxedavad saTaurisa, realoba

absoluturad gansxvavebuli gvaqvs.

2012 wlis biujetis

`programuli~ da

`gamWvirvale~ mxareebi

gansakuTrebul SeSfoTebas mTavrobis

mier sabiujeto klasifikaciis mixedviT,

biujetis asignebebis damtkiceba iwvevs,

sadac yvela saministrosa Tu uwyebis

xarjebi mxolod xelfasis nawilSia ga-

Sifruli da miTiTebuli ar aris, Tu ra

xarji gaiweva `saqonelisa da momsaxurebis~

kategoriaSi, socialuri uzrunvelyofis

nawilSi. daaxloebiT, 200-300 milioni

biujetSi isea Cadebuli, kaci ver

gaigebs raSi ixarjeba igi. rac Seexeba

programul biujets, es sruli absurdia.

biujetSi programebi ar Cans, arasrul-

saerTo gazeTi

xelisuflebis piar-aqcia _

biujetis `gamWirvaloba~

yofiladaa warmodgenili. realurad,

2012 wlis biujeti, misi winamorbedebis

msgavsad, programuli biujetis imitaciaa

da sxva araferi. saqarTvelos

`sabiujeto kodeqsis~ Tanaxmad `programuli

biujeti mxarjavi dawesebulebis

mier dasaxuli prioritetebis misaRwevad

gansaxorcielebeli programebis,

proeqtebis, RonisZiebebisa da ma-

Ti biujetebis mosalodneli Sedegebisa

da Sefasebebis indikatorTa erTobliobaa~,

anu programas mizani unda

hqondes, romelic maCveneblebSi unda

iyos gamoxatuli imitom, rom programuli

biujeti sabiujeto saxsrebis

xarjvis efeqtianobis amaRlebazea

orientirebuli, rac biujetis efeqtianobis

gazomvis SesaZleblobas gulisxmobs.

miznebi miTiTebulia, Tumca, igi

imdenad zogadia, rom maTi SesrulebisTvis

saWiro xarjebis ekonomikurad dasabuTeba

da konkretul indikatorebSi gamoxatva

SeuZlebelia. 2012 wlis biujetSi

Zalian bevria iseTi zogadi muxli,

romelic klasifikacias ar eqvemdebareba

da misi funqcionaluri gamijvna

SeuZlebelia. biujetis araprogramulobaze

kidev erTi faqti miuTiTebs, romelic

mravali welia kamaTis sagania. es

aris biujetis xarjviTi nawilis muxli

_ `sxva xarjebi~. sainteresoa erTi garemoeba

_ parlamentis mier proeqtis

pirveli ganxilvis Semdeg `sxva xarjebis~

maCvenebeli gaizarda da Tuki cvlilebebis

Setanamde igi 836 482, 4 milioni

lari iyo, Sesworebul variantSi es

cifri 974 milion laramde anu 12,8

procentidan 16 procentamde gaizarda.

ase, rom axali biujeti araTu zogadad

ver akmayofilebs programulobis

moTxovnas, aramed wina wlebTan SedarebiT

yvelaze gaumWirvalea.

Semosulobebi

`ayvavebuli ekonomikis~

pirobebSi mcirdeba

marTalia biujeti proeqtis Sesabamisad

izrdeba, magram samwuxarod mcirdeba

Semosulobebi, anu yvela is Semosavali,

romelsac saxelmwifo sxvadasxva

wyaroebidan miiRebs. es Semcireba 687.2

milioni laria. aRniSnuli niSnavs imas,

rom qveyana grantebsa da sxva miznobriv

daxmarebebs Semcirebuli odenobiT mii-

Rebs. magaliTad, grantebis moculoba

354.6 milioni laridan 206 milion laramde

mcirdeba. aqedan SeiZleba davaskv-

naT, rom biujetis zrda ganpirobebuli

iqneba sagadasaxado Semosavlebis 450 milioniani

zrdiT.

`qamrebis SemoWeris~

Tu `uqamro~ politika

miuxedavad `nac. moZraobis~ gapiarebuli

politikisa, TiTqos mmarTvelobiTi

xarjebi mcirdeba da anxorcieleben e.w.

`qamrebis moWeris~ politikas, warmodgenili

biujetis proeqti sapirispiros amtkicebs.

magaliTad, Tu 2011 wels mmar-

TvelobiTi xarjebi 1.085 miliard lars

Seadgenda, 2012 wels igi izrdeba 47.9

milioni lariT da 1.128 miliardi lari

iqneba. 2012 wels biujetis proeqti ma-

Sin, roca saSualo xelfasi qveyanaSi

560 laria, saxelmwifo moxeleTa saSualo

xelfasi 944 lari iqneba. maSasadame,

`nac. moZraobam~ araTu SemoiWira qamrebi,

aramed Tavis moxeleebs qamrebi mouxsna.

normalur qveynebSi kerZo da sajaro seqtorSi

dasaqmebuli adamianTa saSualo

xelfasis amgvari sxvaoba aranormaluria.

Cveni qveynis pirobebSi ki savsebiT naTelia,

rom xelisufleba saarCevnod sajaro

moxeleTa mosyidvas cdilobs.

Semosavlebis deklarirebuli

zrda inflaciis

gavleniT fiqciaa

biujetis proeqtiT, erTi SexedviT,

Semosavlebi 4,7 procentiT izrdeba, magram

amavdroulad miznobrivi 6 procentiani

inflaciis gaTvaliswinebiT realuri

zrdis nacvlad 1,3 procentiT Semcirebas

miviRebT. es niSnavs, rom dRes

arsebuli socialur-ekonomikuri foni

araTu gaumjobesdeba, aramed gauaresdeba

kidec. ufro sagrZnobi iqneba gauareseba

wvrili da saSualo biznesisTvis, radganac

maTi sagadasaxado Semosavlebi isedac

mxolod 15 procentia. aseve sagulisxmoa,

rom sagadasaxado Semosavlebis

zrdac ki 6 procentiani miznobrivi inflaciis

pirobebSi mxolod 1,9 procenti

iqneba, rac kidev erTxel adasturebs

mxolod `nac. moZraobis~ mier auRiarebul

faqts, qveyanaSi ekonomikuri krizisis

Sesaxeb.

`nac. moZraobis~ naWami

grantebi STamomavlobis

kbilebis winaaRmdeg

`nac. moZraoba~ Cveuli meTodebiT

apiarebs infrastruqturis da sxva mSeneblobebis

grandiozulobas, magram ma-

noe xaraiSvilis gasaWiri

rodesac baton noe xaraiSvilis

problemebis Sesaxeb SevityveT,

gagvikvirda, rom saCxeris

raionSi SeiZleboda 91

wlis kacs Tavi ase mitovebulad

egrZno.

batoni noe xaraiSvili aris

saCxeris r-nis sofel kalvaTis

mkvidri, mravali Taobis aRmzrdeli

pedagogi, meore msoflio

omis veterani, gadamdgari oficeri,

alma-atis samxedro akademiis

kursdamTavrebuli. amJamad

saCxeris r-nis veteranTa sab-

Wos mdivani.

miuxedavad asakisa, batoni

noe dResac mxned grZnobs Tavs

da Tavisi saqmis erTgulia.

Tumca, mas erTi didi satkivari

aqvs. rodesac misma Svilma

irakli xaraiSvilma gadawyvita

Zveli saxlis dangreva da axlis

aSeneba, is gardaicvala da

moxuci usaxlkarod darCa.

droebiT Seexizna qaliSvilis

saxls, romelic aseve sacxovreblad

uvargisia da miwisZvri-

Taa dazianebuli da seismologebis

daskvniT, ngrevis II kategorias

ganekuTvneba.

miuxedavad baton noes araerTgzis

Txovnisa da lodinisa,

dRemde saSveli ar gamoCnda.

2011 wlis agvistos miwisZvram

is ufro da ufro daaziana,

kedlebze Zveli bzarebi gafarTovda

da faqtobrivad, saxli

sacxovreblad uvargisi gaxda.

mTeli 20 wlis ganmavloba-

Si uamravi Txovna daiwera adgilobrivi

xelisuflebis mimarT,

magram amaod.

samwuxarod, baton noes, 91

wlis moxucs miwisZvris mimarT

panikuri SiSi dasCemda da amJamad

am dangreuli saxlis nesti-

an sardafSi cxovrobs _ `miwisZvra

rom moxdes, aqedan ufro

gavaswrebo~, _ fiqrobs.

saCxeris r-nis gamgeobaSi,

sadac batoni noes kabinetia,

(veteranTa sabWosi) TanamSromlebs

xumrobiT eubneba, kidev

20 weli davelodebi, iqneb vinmem

gulTan miitanos Cemi satkivario.

marTlac, bedis ironiaa noe

xaraiSvilis cxovreba. misi didi

babua XVIII saukunis cnobili

qvelmoqmedi mkurnali gaxldaT,

romelsac xalxma mas `papuna

karRia~ Searqva _ is xom

morwmune mewamleTa STamomavali

iyo.

ase rom, `sxvisi maziarebeli

TviTon darCa dRes uziarebeli~.

samwuxaroa, rom saxli

saxls ar hgavs, cxovrebisaTvis

uvargisia, magram gadasaxadisaT-

lavs imas, rom es, ZiriTadad sagareo valebis

xarjzea miRweuli. magaliTad,

2011 wels sagareo valebis moculobam

mTlian Sida produqtTan mimarTebaSi

piks miaRwia da 41 procents gautolda.

absolutur moculobaSi igi TiTqmis 10

miliardia. aqedan, sagareo vali 5 miliardi

dolaria. Tu am maCveneblebs Tundac

2007 wels SevadarebT, anu omiswina

periods, mdgomareoba katastrofulia.

maSin, 2007 wels sagareo valis

xvedriTi wona mxolod 17 procenti iyo.

logikuria, rom izrdeba sagareo da sa-

Sinao valis momsaxureobis Tanxebic,

rac 2012 wels 580 milioni lariT ganisazRvreba.

anu, mTeli mosaxleobis sapensio

uzrunvelyofis xarjebis TiTqmis

naxevarze meti. am pirobebSi ramdenjerme

gaJRerda prezidentis mowodeba damatebiTi

valebis aRebis Sesaxeb. Tu aRmasrulebeli

xelisufleba prezidentis

davalebas Seasrulebs momaval Taobebs

kidev ufro meti eqnebaT gadasaxadi. samwuxarold,

valebis katastrofuli

zrdis tempi mniSvnelovnad CamorCeba

mTlianad ekonomikis zrdis temps, rac

niSnavs, rom aRebuli valebis gamoyenebis

efeqtianoba Zalzec dabalia. yovelive

zemoaRniSnuli niSnavs rom `nac.

moZraobis~ SeWmuli valebi STamomavlobas

mokveTs kbils.

Tamar SveliZe

vis ki hgavs `saxli saxls~.

noe xaraiSvili: `kargad mesmis,

rom materialurobisken

swrafva drois dakargva da amaoebaa,

magram elementarul

cxovrebis pirobebs vTxoulob

mxolod, romelic pensioners

mWirdeba, rodemde velodo an

vis velodo daxmarebisaTvis?

20 welia aravin Seismina Cemi

vedreba. miTxres, rogorc

saCxerelma, biZina ivaniSvils

mimarTeo. ufaso mkurnalobis

polisi maqvs amkeTili kacisagan

da meti ra vTxovo...~, _ ambobs

igi.

samwuxaroa, rom moridebuli,

keTili da damsaxurebuli

moxucis gasaWiri, ase wauyrua

saCxeris r-nis gamgeobam, magram

iqneb axla mainc yurad iRos es

Txovna iman, visac es exeba, an

iman, visac misTvis daxmareba

SeuZlia. keTil xalxs ra dalevs

am qveyanaze.

eTer

kasreliSvili

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18 saerTo gazeTi #49 (178), 3-6.XII, 2011 w.

7. javaxeT-samcxis umWidroesi

ekonomiuri kavSiri

saqarTvelosTan

warsulSica da exlac

Tu imisda miuxedavad, rom zemoaRniSnul

orTave sabWos wevrebma

rusma moxeleebma mefis moadgilis

survili icodnen da maT gagonili

hqondaT, rom is am gamoyofas

TanaugrZnobda, mainc es azri erTxmiv

uarhyves, cxadia, javaxeTis CamoSoreba

tfilisis guberniisgan

da gumbrTan SeerTeba marTlac

srulebiT Seuwynarebeli da naZaladevi

gegma yofila. marTlac-da,

sakmarisia, adamianma axalqalaqis

geografiuli pirobebi gaiTvaliswinos,

rom misTvis naTeli gaxdes,

ramdenad TviT am qveynis bunebrivi

agebuloba ewinaaRmdegeba mis Seer-

Tebas gumbrTan (aleqsandropol-

Tan). erevnis guberniisa da gumbris

da yarsisagan javaxeTsa da samcxeeruSeTs

anu axalqalaqisa da axalcixis

mazrebs da yarsis olqis

focxovis ubans maRali, 7-8 Tvis

ganmavlobaSi Tovliani da gauvali,

jer berdujis mTebis dasavleTi nawili,

Semdeg abocis mTebis, merme

nialisyuris mTis aRmosavleTs nawils.

dasasruls, eruSeTis mTis

saxelebiT cnobili uReltexili

hyofs. amgvari orografiuli Tvisebis

gamo es mTebi mtkvris Semdinareebis

wyalT-gamyofeli qedia da

gzebsac bunebrivi mimarTuleba

swored mtkvris xeobisaken, e.i.

CrdiloeTisaken aqvs da ara samxre-

Tisaken. amitomac aris, rom ekonomiuradac

am kuTxes mxolod saqar-

TvelosTan SeeZlo rom hqonoda

kavSiri. ase iyo yovelTvis warsulSic.

istorikos papuna orbelianis

sityvebi, mag. cxadhyofen, rom

me-18 s-Siac, rodesac mesxeTi

axalcixis safaSos saxiT osmale-

Tis saxelmwifos ekuTvnoda da saqarTvelos

politikurad CamoSorebuli

iyo, maSinac ki mTel mesxeTs,

gansakuTrebiT ki javaxeTsa da samcxes,

saqarTvelosTan hqonda mWidro

ekonomikuri damokidebuleba da

iqauri sasoflo-sameurneo nawarmi,

sanovage, gansakuTrebiT ki puri

tfilisSi da gorSi CamohqondaT

gasayidad (ix. brosses gamoc. da

gorel qedxudebis arza erekle me-

2-sadmi mirTmeuli).

javaxeTis (axalaqalaqis) samazro

komisiis zemomoyvanili dadgenileba

amtkicebs, rom exlac ekonomiuri

damokidebulebis viTareba

da mimarTuleba ar Secvlila:

kvlavindeburad iqidgan saqoneli

tfilisSi Camodis, magram amaze

ufro sayuradRebo is garemoebaa,

rom javaxeTsa da samcxes, anu

axalqalaqisa da axalcixis mazrebs,

rogorc rkinis gzis sakomercio

ganyofilebis yovelwliuri angariSebiTgana

sCans. marto aRmosavleT

saqarTvelosTan ki ara hqonia

ekonomiuri kavSiri (saqoneli marto

rkinis gziT ki ara, iqiTgan

pirdapiri, Sara da saurme gzebiTac

modis), aramed dasavleT saqarTve-

losTanac, quTaisis guberniasTanac.

ai, mag. omamdis ramdeni puri da

sxva marcvleuloba gamodioda yovelwliv

am kuTxidan dasavleT-aRmosavleT

saqarTveloSi da ramdeni

mTels danarCens amierkavkasiaSi,

somxeTSi da azerbaijanSi midioda

(yarsSi, erevanSi, qamarulSi, baqo-

Si da sxvagan):

saqarTveloSi:

danarCen amierkavkasiaSi

1910 w. 60557 f. 462 f.

1911 w. 152858 f. 1800 f.

1912 w. 207752 f. 3588 f.

1913 w. 96074 f. 1312 f.

1914 w. 17144 f. 1238 f.

magram marto miwaTmoqmedebis

mxriv ar iyo es kuTxe danarCen saqarTvelosTan

dakavSirebuli. mesaqonleobisa

da mecxvareobis mTeli

meurneoba saqarTveloSi umWidroesad,

SeiZleba iTqvas, ganuyrelad,

am kuTxesTan da borCalos mazris

sazafxulo saZovrebTan aris dakav-

Sirebuli. ase iyo Zvelad, maSinacki,

roca mesxeTi osmalTa xelSi

iyo, asea axlac. raki saukuneTa

ganmavlobaSi adgilobrivi havis pirobebisdagvarad

SemuSavebulma

teqnikam uTuo aucileblobiT daamtkica

sazafxulo saZovrebis saWiroeba.

amitom swored aq, TviT bunebis

mier Seqmnils sazafxulo sa-

Zovrebze iyrida xolme Tavs saqar-

TveloSi myofi saqoneli. es kuTxe

imdenad aucilebeli iyo saqarTvelos

mesaqonleebisaTvis, rom maSinac-ki,

roca mesxeTi osmalTa xel-

Si iyo, saqonlis patronebi, gansakuTrebiT

mecxvareebi, iZulebuli

iyvnen, sxva saxelmwifoSi gadasuliyvnen

saqonliT da mTeli zafxuli

iq gaetarebinaT (ix.vaxuStis

geografia 182).

mesaqonleobis mxriv saqarTveloSi

igive pirobebia, rogoric

warsulSi iyo. mTels aRmosavleT

saqarTveloSi: sul 857000 des.

sazafxulo saZovari iTvleba, aqeTgan

saukeTeso saZovrebi qvemo qar-

TlSi da javaxeTSi, anu borCalosa

da axalqalaqis mazrebSia, sadac

291000 da saZovaria.

amJamad mTel aRmosavleT saqarTveloSi

3683000 Tavi saqoneli

arsebobs, somxeTis sazRvrebSiki

(erevnis gub. `yarsis ol. da

ganjis maRl). somexTa mTel mosaxleobas

sul 3561000 Tavi saqoneli

hyavs. am maRlobze somxebs did-

Zal 2000000 des. saukeTeso saZovari

aqvT. ise, rom mTeli balaxi

moZovili iyos, maTi saqoneli amis-

Tvis sakmarisi ar aris da verc

SesZlebs, amitom srulebiT cxadia,

rom somxebs sazafxulo saZovrebi

srulebiT ar esaWiroebaT. maSasadame,

maTTvis borCalos da axalqalaqis

mazrebi am mxriv, ekonomiku-

redaqciisagan: ivane javaxiSvilis

wigni `saqarTvelos sazRvrebi~

ibeWdeba ucvleli saxiT.

ivane javaxiSvili:

saqarTvelos sazRvrebi

istoriulad da Tanamedrove TvalsazrisiT ganxiluli

rad arc gamosadegni arian

da arc saWiro. sul sxva

mdgomareobaSia aRmosavleTi

saqarTvelo: uammazrebod

mTeli mesaqonleoba ukidures

mdgomareobaSi da gansacdelSi

Cavardeboda, saqoneli,

gansakuTrebiT cxvari,

daixoceboda.

TviT axalqalaqisa da

borCalos mazris mcxovreb-

Tac SedarebiT imdeni saqoneli

ara hyavT (orTaveSi

515772 Tavi iTvleba), rom

marto am saqonelma mTeli

am farTo da Ronieri sazafxulo

saZovrebis moWma

SesZlos, ag. borCalos mazraSi

sazafxulo saZovari

46000 des. iTvleba, aqedan

26 somexTa soflis saijaro

sazogadoeba 10000 des.iT

sargeblobs saqonlis sa-

Zovrad, danarCeni 36000

des. ki aRmos. saqarTvelos

sxva mazrebiTgan mosuls mesaqonleebs

uWiravT. rogorc

warsulSic saukuneTa

ganmavlobaSi. exlac aRmosavleT

saqarTvelos didZali

saqoneli patronebs aq

mohyavT da aZoveben. maSasadame,

srulebiT cxadia, rom, Tumca me-

19-e s.-Si SemTxveviTi mizezebis gamo,

borCalos da axalqalaqis mazrebSi

somexi ltolvilebi daeSennen

da qarTvelTa mosaxleoba aq

mcirericxovania, magram mTels aRmosavleT

saqarTvelos danarCens

mosaxleobas am mazrebTan aramc Tu

ekonomiuri kavSiri ar Seuwyvetia,

aramed winandeburad umWidroesad

masTan aris dakavSirebuli.

8. rogor unda SevxedoT

somexTa wadils javaxeTis

dapatronebisas?

yvela zemonaTqvamis Semdgom

cxadia, Tu rogor SeiZleba Sexedos

qarTvelobam somexTa wadils

javaxeTis (axalqalaqis maz.) dasa-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

sakuTreblad. erekle mefis piriT

saqarTvelos, rasakvirvelia, ruseTTan

amisTvis ar daudvia 1783 w.

xelSekruleba, rom mas Semdgom,

rac mesxeTi osmaleTs CamoerTva,

es uxsovari droiTgan saqarTvelos

kuTvnili qveyana, qarTuli kulturis

erTi Zlieri keraTagani, somxebs

gadascemoda. somexTa am

kuTxeSi dasaxlebisaTvis qarTvelobas

SeeZlo Semoexedna mxolod

viTarca droebiTi movlenisaTvis:

viTarca osmalTa mier devnili

xalxis droebiTi Semoxizvnisa da

TavSefarebisaTvis. ra wams somex-

TaTvis politikurad xelsayreli

pirobebi Seiqmneboda, _ da exla

xom swored aseTi xana dadga, _ es

osmaleTiTgan Semoxiznuli somxoba

kvlav Tavis samSoblos, mamapapa-

Ta keras unda daubrundes. iqiTganki,

osmaleTiTgan aq dabrundebian

am miwa-wylis winandeli patronebi.

me-19 saukunis ganmavlobaSi osma-

leTSi gadasaxlebuls qarTvels

mahmadianebs ara-erTxel undodaT

guliT TavianT samSobloSi dabruneba

da javaxeT-mesxeTSi, mama-papeul

miwebze dasaxleba, magram maTi

adgili daWerili iyo. exla, raki

somxebi TavianT winandel qveyanaSi,

somxeTSi wavlen, maSin samarTlianoba

aRdgenili iqmneba da orTave

ers Tavisi mama-papeuli kera daubrundeba.

me-6 Tavi

saqarTvelos samzRvris

ukiduresi samxreTdasavleTis

xazi.

kola-artaani,

tao-TorTum-ispiri.

raki exla sakiTxi javaxeTis

(axalqalaqis mazris) Sesaxeb ukve

yovelmxriv gamorkveuli gvaqvs, unda

saqarTvelos danarCeni monapire

kuTxeebis Sesaxeb zogierTi zedmeti

cnobebi davurToT.

zeviT ukve aRniSnuli iyo, rom

exlandeli yarsis guberniis artaanisa

da olTisis olqebi, romlebic

Zvelad kola-artaanisa da taos

CrdiloeTis nawils udriden,

saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi qarTvel

mosaxleobas da ers ekuTvnoda.

mxolod me-18 saukuniTgan moyolebuli,

artaanisa da olTisis olq-

Si TurqTa 200 wlis batonobis da

islamis wyalobiT qarTvel-mahmadianebs

qarTuli ena daviwyebuli

aqvT. mosaxleoba aq Txelia da

1889 w. artanis olqSi 65763 suli

iyo da aqeTgan mxolod 1923

somexi iTvleboda. olTisis olqSi

mTlad 31519 mcxovrebTa Soris somexi

3130 iyo.

amgvarad, cxadia, rom artaanisa

da olTisis olqebSi somxebi mosaxleobis

umniSvnelo raodenobas

Seadgenen. amas jer kidev SarSan,

1918 w. TviT somxebic ar uarhyofdnen

da a.Sapatniani, magaliTad, ambobda:

aq `somxebi umniSvnelo umciresobas

Seadgeneno~ da amis gamo

amierkavkasiis gadamijvnis dros

somxeTis samzRvrebs gareSe davtovebTo

(tfilisi 1918 gv. 73-74 da

75). es garemoeba somxebs exla albad

dahviwyebiaT da somxeTis saxelmwifos

samzRvrebSi moqceva

hsurT artaanisa da olTisis olqisac,

romelic maT arc istoriulad

da arc somexTa Tanamedrove

mosaxleobis raodenobis

mxriv ar ekuTvniT.

xolo osmaleTis samzRvrebSi

darCenils mesxeTis,

zemo taos nawil-

Si, TorTumis xeobaSi

mTeli mcxovrebni 1400

suli mTlad gamahmadianebuli

qarTvelebi arian,

magram qarTuli daviwyebuli

aqvT. ixpirSi-ki, parxalis,

xevekis, gudaxevis

da WirWimis xeobebSi

yvelgan qarTveli-mahmadianebi

cxovroben da qarTulad

laparakoben.

lazistani.

qarTvelTa mosaxleobis

ukiduresi samxreT-dasavleTi

napiri Wanebs, anu

lazebs uWiravT. ase iyo

warsulSiac. maT kilo

megruls axlo udgeba.

odesRac lazebis anu Wanebis

mosaxleoba trapizonsac

ki scildeboda da

TviT es qalaqi da olqic

maT qveyanas ekuTvnoda.

jer kidev warsul saukuneSi.

mag. 1868 w. lazTa

raodenoba inglisis konsulis v.jiford

palheris cnobiT, ramdensame

ass aTas aRemateboda.

amJamad lazuri anu Wanuri mosaxleoba

mxolod rizes sanjayiT

ganisazRvreba, romelsac lazistanis

sanjaysac uwodeben. magram es

miwa-wyalic or mTavar nawilad unda

gaiyos: rizesa da aTinas olqad.

pirvelSi xalxs dedaena ukve daviwyebuli

aqvs da Turquli SeuTvisebia,

meoreSi-ki mcxovrebTa dedaena

Wanuri anu lazuria. es aTinas

olqi sakuTriv aTinisa da xofas

yazaxebisagan Sesdgeba. samxreT-dasavleTiT

misi samzRvari qemeris

koncxTan (qemerburun) iwyeba,

Semdeg ahyveba md.yanli-deres,

gadasWris aTinas wyalisa da baeiuk-deres

saTaveebs da miadgeba pontos

qedis mwvervals, romelsac

varsambeki (verSembeki) hqvia. aqeTgan

moyolebuli WaneTis miwa-wyali

Crdilo-aRmosavleTisaken miemarTeba

da pontos qedsa da Sav zRvas

Suaa moqceuli. es zoli TandaTan

viwrovdeba da baTumis olqSi sarpTan

Tavdeba.

aTinas olqi eqvs ubnad iyofeba:

xofas, arqabes, viwes, artaSenis,

aTinas da xemSinis ubnebad. sul

178 sofeli aris. aqeTgan 39 sofeli

xemSinis olqSi iTvleba. romelSic

12778 suli mxovrebia. xem-

Sinebi gamahmadianebuli da gaTurqebuli

somxebi arian. TviT lazTa

raodenobis Sesaxeb zedmiwevniT

cnobebi im gvaradve, rogorc osmaleTSi

mcxovreb sxva erovnebaTa

Sesaxeb, ar moipoveba, ruseTis gener.

Stabis saidumlo gamocemaSi

gen. averianovs Tavis monografiaSi

lazebis raodenoba 200000-ad aqvs

aRricxuli. rodesac ruseTis jarma

am msoflio omis dros lazistani

daiWira, mcxovrebTa umravlesobam

osmalTa jarTan erTad ukan

daixia da adgilobriv mxolod

35000 lazi-Ra iyo darCenili. udrovod

gansvenebuli profes. ios.

yifSiZis mier adgilobriv Sekrebili

cnobebis mixedviT, aTinas olq-

Si mkvidr lazTa raodenoba Tu meti

ara, 80000-mde mainc unda yofiliyo.

zedmiwevniTi ricxvis gageba

mxolod exla SeiZleba, rodesac

mcxovrebni TavianT saxls-kars daubrundnen,

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