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<strong>gori</strong>, <strong>15</strong> <strong>ivlisi</strong><br />
yvelani `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ aqciaze<br />
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>) � 11-17.VII.2012 weli � gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs � www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: saertogazeti@yahoo.com� fasi 1 lari<br />
xelisuflebam ver gaigo,<br />
rom biZina ivaniSvili<br />
krizisuli situaciebis<br />
marTvis menejeria _<br />
es gansakuTrebuli<br />
fsiqotipia, romelic<br />
marTvis pultTan mokvdeba,<br />
magram fexs ar moicvlis...<br />
`nebayoflobiTi~<br />
warwymeda<br />
anu vis mxaresaa<br />
eklesia?<br />
`faSistur-nacionaluri~<br />
saqarTvelo da branwi<br />
`paTologiis muzeumidan~<br />
saakaSvili<br />
xalxis ndobas<br />
ver daayadaRebs<br />
vano merabiSvils<br />
gadarCenis erTaderTi<br />
gza aqvs _ unda gadadges<br />
da aqedan<br />
gaiqces...<br />
biZina ivaniSvilTan Cvens<br />
Sexvedras is Zalebi<br />
blokaven, romlebic<br />
ivaniSvils nel-nela<br />
amzadeben dasamarcxeblad<br />
SeiZleba, xelisuflebam daiwyos<br />
gegmis Semogdeba, TiTqos, miSa, vano<br />
an koduebi da sxvebi erTmaneTs upirispirdebian,<br />
rom amiT opozicia miityuon<br />
mosalaparakeblad. movuwodeb<br />
opozicias: ar gadadgas arc erTi<br />
nabiji amaTken.<br />
dauSvebelia imis<br />
fiqrad gavlebac<br />
ki, rom SeiZleba<br />
saakaSvilis<br />
cixeSi biZina<br />
ivaniSvili ijdes<br />
ukraina quxs,<br />
saqarTvelo dums...<br />
saWesTan mjdarma mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma kaci rom<br />
gaitana, amaze informacia<br />
badri patarkaciSvils<br />
hqonda da amis Sesaxeb<br />
erTma misma axlobelma<br />
politikosmac icis...
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saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
redaqtoris sveti<br />
wuxel baTumSi evropis<br />
saxalxo partiis Tavmjdomare<br />
vilfred martensi CamobrZanda<br />
da Riad dauWira<br />
mxari `nacmoZraobas~ da<br />
mis liders, romlebsac TavianTi<br />
swori politikiT<br />
evrointegraciisken mihyavT<br />
saqarTvelo, rasac Turme<br />
`oligarqi~ biZina ivaniSvili<br />
uSlis xels.<br />
saqarTvelos evrointegracia<br />
_ es is avantiura<br />
da demagogiaa, romlis<br />
iqiT qarTvelTa gadagvarebis<br />
da gadakeTebis mzakvruli<br />
gegma imaleba, romelsac<br />
didi xalisiT da<br />
sibejiTiT anxorcieleben<br />
saqarTvelos amJamindeli<br />
xelisufalni.<br />
evroparlamentis warmomadgenelTa<br />
erTi nawilis<br />
da personalurad evropis<br />
saxalxo partiis Seteva<br />
biZina ivaniSvilze ar<br />
aris arainformaciulobiT<br />
gamowveuli Secdoma.<br />
maT SesaniSnavad ician,<br />
vin aris biZina ivaniSvili,<br />
ician, ra gaukeTebia mas saqarTvelosTvis,<br />
ra gauke-<br />
Tebia misi gadarCenisa da<br />
aRorZinebisTvis.<br />
maT ician, rom<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
xelisuflebaSi<br />
mosvliT iqmneba<br />
`saSiSroeba~, saqarTvelomgaixsenos<br />
sakuTari Tavi,<br />
daibrunos Rirsebis<br />
grZnoba, daibrunos<br />
mxneoba da<br />
ara sxvis niadagze,<br />
aramed erovnul<br />
saZirkvelze aaSenos<br />
namdvili qar-<br />
Tuli saxelmwifo,<br />
rac aramc da aramc<br />
ar Sedis qarTvel-<br />
Ta gaevropelebagadajiSebismosurneTa<br />
gegmaSi.<br />
ai, swored amiT iyo gamowveuli<br />
evroparlamentis<br />
sxdomaze biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
misamarTiT ganxorcielebuli<br />
gaafTrebuli Tavdasxma,<br />
romelsac Tamamad<br />
SeiZleba vuwodoT ideologiuri<br />
teraqti, romelic,<br />
vfiqrob, personalurad<br />
mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />
ki ara mTeli saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg iyo mimarTuli.<br />
amiTaa gamowveuli martensebis<br />
da lancbergisebis<br />
mzakvruli miniSnebebi qar-<br />
Tul faSizmsa da nacizmze.<br />
Tu qarTvelebi<br />
enis, mamulis da<br />
sarwmunoebis dasacavad<br />
xmis amoRebas<br />
vbedavT, e.i. fa-<br />
Sistebi da nacistebi<br />
varT?<br />
axla jeri qarTvel<br />
xalxzea, romelic darwmunebuli<br />
var, sakadris pa-<br />
suxs gascems am aramkiTxe<br />
`keTilismyofelebs~ kantoridan<br />
saxelad `evroparlamenti~.<br />
P.S. adre evroparlamentis<br />
saxeliT maTias iorSi<br />
dadioda aq arCevnebis dros<br />
da, rogorc amboben, gayalbebuli<br />
arCevnebis `gapravebiT~<br />
did fuls Soulobda.<br />
iorSs, etyoba, martensebi<br />
Caenacvlnen da momaval<br />
sapralmento arCevneb-<br />
Si axla isini `dagvakvirdebian~,<br />
rom mere didi honorarebis<br />
sanacvlod qarTveli<br />
xalxis arCevani<br />
kvlav utifrad gaayalbon.<br />
_ damijereT, didi dakvirvebaa<br />
saWiro am TvalTmaqc<br />
damkvirveblebze, Torem<br />
isini Zveli meTodebiT<br />
isev agvafcqvnian momavals,<br />
rogorc es araerTgzis gaukeTebiaT...<br />
vaxtang xarCilava<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~<br />
mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava<br />
gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~<br />
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absurduli mizezebiT dajarimebuli<br />
ivaniSvili, aqaoda, milionebs<br />
ar gvixdiso, xelisuflebam<br />
is qoneba daayadaRa, anu `qarTu<br />
jgufi~ da `qarTu banki~, romelic<br />
qvelmoqmed politikoss realurad<br />
arc arasdros ekuTunoda.<br />
`qarTu jgufis~ aqcionerebma<br />
sasamarTlos ukve mimarTes maT<br />
kuTvnil qonebaze yadaRis moxsnis<br />
moTxovniT, ra drosac, wesiT,<br />
auqcioni unda SeCerdes.<br />
`saerTo gazeTs~ aRniSnul sakiTxebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis advokati arCil<br />
kbilaSvili da ucxoel aqcionerTa<br />
advokati paata kiknaveliZe<br />
esaubrnen.<br />
arCil kbilaSvili: `auqcionze<br />
gatanil qonebasTan biZina<br />
ivaniSvils aranairi Sexeba ar<br />
aqvs. garkveuli kavSiri mimdinare<br />
wlis 30 aprilamde arsebobda,<br />
Tanac e.w. mesame doneze, sazRvargareTul<br />
iurisdiqciaSi, romelic,<br />
romc darCeniliyo ZalaSi,<br />
mainc ar iqneboda darRveva, anu<br />
ar SeiZleboda auqcionze gaetanaT.<br />
miuxedavad amisa, 30 aprils<br />
`qarTu jgufis~ mTeli paketi 11<br />
ucxour kompaniaze gasxvisda,<br />
sruliad sxva mesakuTreebi hyavs.<br />
ufro konkretulad agixsniT, arsebobs<br />
saaqcio sazogadoeba `qar-<br />
Tu jgufi~, romelsac ekuTvnis<br />
`qarTu banki~ da sxva uZravi qonebac.<br />
30 aprilamde `qarTu jgufis~<br />
aqciebi eqvs kompanias ekuTvnoda,<br />
aqedan oTxi ucxouri iyo,<br />
ori qarTuli, Tumca aqac iyvnen<br />
ucxoeli partniorebi. sazRvargareT<br />
am oTxi kompaniis ukan mesakuTre<br />
iyo biZina ivaniSvili. aris<br />
mcdeloba `qarTu jgufi~ xelSi<br />
Caigdon, radgan, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
`qarTu banki~ da sxva uZravi qonebac,<br />
avtomaturad gadava axali<br />
mflobelis xelSi. erovnuli banki<br />
rom imizezebs `qarTu bankis~<br />
aqciebis gasxvisebis Sesaxeb Cven-<br />
Tvis ar ucnobebiaTo, kanonis Ta-<br />
naxmad, erovnuli bankis nebarTva<br />
maSinaa saWiro, Tu komerciuli<br />
bankis aqciebis 10%-ze meti<br />
sxvisdeba. pirvel dones Tu ganvixilavT,<br />
`qarTu bankis~ aqciebi<br />
`qarTu jgufs~ ekuTvnoda, aq<br />
cvlileba ar momxdara, amitom<br />
informacia erovnuli bankisTvis<br />
arc unda waredginaT. meore donezec<br />
rom gaavrcelon igive<br />
moTxovna, Tu gasxviseba 10%-s<br />
qvemoT xdeba da SemZeni 10%-ze<br />
naklebs iZens, mas nebarTva ar<br />
sWirdeba. 11 subieqtma iyida es<br />
aqciebi, ase rom, TiToeulis wili<br />
7-8%-is farglebSia. mesame<br />
dones ki es isedac ar sWirdeba,<br />
radgan is sazRvargareTaa. biZina<br />
ivaniSvilma Tavisi sazRvargare-<br />
Tuli saxli rom gayidos, mas ar<br />
sWirdeba saqarTvelos iurisdiqciasTan<br />
kavSiri da nebarTva. saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba ki am<br />
yvelafers yuradRebas ar aqcevs<br />
da biZina ivaniSvils pirveli donis<br />
mesakuTred Tvlis.<br />
maincdamainc arc advokat paata<br />
kiknaveliZes sjera, rom xelisufleba<br />
xsenebul auqcions Sea-<br />
Cerebs, Tumca isic cxadia, rom<br />
ucxoeli mesakuTreebi, saakaSvilis<br />
jibis sasamarTlosa da saxelSecvlili<br />
kontrolis palatis<br />
gadawyvetilebebs udrtvinvelad<br />
ar daTanxmdebian da sakuTari<br />
interesebis dasacavad brZolas<br />
gaagrZeleben.<br />
paata kiknaveliZe: `me gamiWirdeba<br />
winaswar imis Tqma, mosamarTle<br />
ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs<br />
auqcionis SeCerebasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
Tumca qonebaze nebismieri<br />
kerZo davisas, mxaris uflebebis<br />
darRveva rom ar moxdes,<br />
sasamarTlo yadaRas<br />
adebs sadavo qonebas.<br />
amiT Tavidan icilebs<br />
am qonebis gasxvisebas<br />
an ipoTekiT datvirTvas.<br />
analogiuri tipis<br />
samarTlebrivi dacvis<br />
saSualebaa auqcionis<br />
SeCereba. Tu mosamar-<br />
Tlem auqcioni ar SeaCera,<br />
am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
arsebiTad raRa unda<br />
ganixilos, Tuki qonebis<br />
realizacia moxda,<br />
yadaRisgan ras gaaTavisuflebs?<br />
amitom logikuri da<br />
samarTlebrivia SeCereba, SeaCerebda<br />
kidec, es Cveulebrivi ker-<br />
Zo dava rom iyos da ara politikuri<br />
sakiTxi. xelisuflebas am<br />
saqmeSi arasamarTlebrivi intere-<br />
sebi gaaCnia, rac xels uSlis sakiTxis<br />
samarTlebriv gadawyvetas.<br />
Tu auqcioni ar SeCerda, amis<br />
Semdeg adgilobriv sasamarTloSi<br />
axal sarCels SevitanT da moviTxovT,<br />
rom mTlianad Semowmdes<br />
saaRmsrulebo warmoebis kanoniereba.<br />
unda gairkves, ramdenad<br />
kanonieria yadaRis dadebis<br />
aqti, rogorc administraciulsamarTlebrivi<br />
aqti, hqonda<br />
Tu ara sasamarTlo aRmasrulebels<br />
imis ufleba, rom<br />
erTi pirisgan jarimis amo-<br />
Rebis mizniT, yadaRa daedo<br />
sxva piris sakuTrebaSi arsebul<br />
qonebaze, ramdenad<br />
kanonieria, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
aRmasruleblis gankarguleba,<br />
auqcionSi SesaZlo<br />
monawile romelime pirisTvis<br />
am aqciebis gadacemis,<br />
xolo Tu auqcioni ar Sedga,<br />
saxelmwifosTvis natu-<br />
auqcionze gatanil qonebasTan<br />
biZina ivaniSvils<br />
aranairi Sexeba ar aqvs...<br />
ris gadacemis Sesaxeb. ase rom,<br />
arsebobs Sida saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
meqanizmebi, amis paralelurad<br />
arsebobs saerTaSoriso samarTlebrivi<br />
meqanizmebic. saqarTvelo<br />
mierTebulia `iqsidis~ konvencias,<br />
romelic nebismier ucxoel<br />
investors uflebas aniWebs, rom<br />
man Tavisi uflebebis dasacavad,<br />
ara adgilobriv sasamarTlos,<br />
aramed uSualod sainvesticio<br />
davebis saerTaSoriso centrs<br />
(vaSingtoni) mimarTos.<br />
dayadaRebis aqtSi ar aris mi-<br />
TiTebuli visi sakuTrebaa es aqciebi.<br />
biZina ivaniSvils ver miu-<br />
TiTebdnen, radgan aqciaTa reestrSi<br />
ar arsebobs Sesabamisi Canaweri,<br />
sxva subieqti rom mieTiTebinaT,<br />
Seusabamoba iqneboda, erTs<br />
Tu ekisreba jarimis gadaxda, meores<br />
ratom uyadaReben qonebaso.<br />
erTi sityviT, TvalsaCinod ar<br />
gamoaCines konkretuli subieqti.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobam kargad<br />
icis, rom maTi gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsrulebis Sansi arc erT evropul<br />
saxelmwifoSi ar arsebobs,<br />
amitom am zomas ar mimarTes, saqarTveloSi<br />
ki risi gakeTebac<br />
undaT, akeTeben, radgan ician,<br />
rom win veravin daudgeba.<br />
manana suxiSvili<br />
gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.<br />
SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.<br />
informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba<br />
SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.<br />
Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.<br />
regist. #202375349; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-<strong>15</strong>8 �<br />
am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
socialuri<br />
qselidan:<br />
`veTanxmebi `saerTo gazeTis~ wina nomerSi gamoTqmul mosazrebas,<br />
rom xelisuflebis mier ganxorcielebuli sakadro cvlilebebi<br />
erTaderT mizans emsaxureba: _ ivlis-agvistos TveSi gadamwyveti<br />
ieriSi miitanos biZina ivaniSvilze, aRZras mis winaaRmdeg sisxlis<br />
samarTlis saqme da Zalismieri meTodebis gamoyenebiT an daakavos<br />
igi, an aiZulos, qveyana datovos.<br />
es realuri safrTxea, Tumca am realuri safrTxis Tavidan asacileblad<br />
jerjerobiT araferi keTdeba.<br />
xalxo, ra vqnaT? davsxdeT da gulxeldakrefilebma vuyuroT,<br />
rogor uswordebian moZaladeebi saqarTvelosTvis Tavdadebul am<br />
did mamuliSvils?<br />
sanam unda gagrZeldes ase?<br />
maincdamainc ivaniSvilma unda gviTxras, miSveleTo, Cven TviTon<br />
ratom ver vxvdebiT, ra unda gavakeToT da ra unda movimoqmedoT?<br />
vfiqrob, Cven, xalxma, Cveni iniciativiT unda gavmarToT ivaniSvilis<br />
mxardamWeri didi mitingi, marTlac saerTo-saxalxo xasiaTis<br />
Tavyriloba da am xelisuflebas Riad vuTxraT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
politikur devnas, mis Seviwroebas, mis Seuracxyofas da masze<br />
Zaladobas ar davanebebT.<br />
am aqciaze aucileblad unda moviwvioT saqarTveloSi akreditebuli<br />
saelCoebi, evrokavSiris, evrosabWos, sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
movidnen da dagvTvalon, ramdenni varT!<br />
movidnen da mogvisminon, ra gvinda!<br />
movidnen da waikiTxon, ra ewereba Cvens transparantebze!<br />
mSvidobiani gziT, maRali moqalaqeobrivi SegnebiT da pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
da, rac mTavaria, erTianobiT, yvela winaaRmdegobis daZleva<br />
SeiZleba.<br />
SemogvierTdiT!<br />
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4 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa ``mmwwvvaanneeTTaa ppaarrttiiiiss~~<br />
lliiddeerrii giorgi gaCeCilaZe..<br />
_ batono gia, lilos dasaxlebaSi<br />
qloris gaJonvis Sedegad<br />
uamravi adamiani moiwamla. oficialuri<br />
monacemebiT, 80 adamiani<br />
mowamlula, Tumca moaruli<br />
xmebiT, maTi raodenoba gacilebiT<br />
metia. mowamvlis safrTxe<br />
isev Tu arsebobs da qloris<br />
garda, iq sxva momwamvleli niv-<br />
Tierebebic xom ar iyo?<br />
_ RmerTma gviSvela, wvimebi<br />
rom movida, Torem es momwamvleli<br />
nivTiereba Zalze didi<br />
masStabiT gavrceldeboda. ubedureba<br />
isaa, rom 2010 wels gaauqmes<br />
kanoni `saSiSi nivTierebebis<br />
Sesaxeb~, romelic aregulirebda<br />
amgvar nivTierebebTan<br />
mopyrobas, anu maTi dasawyobebis,<br />
gadazidvis, eqsport-importis,<br />
Senaxvis wesebis dacvas. am<br />
kanonis mixedviT, akrZaluli<br />
iyo dasaxlebuli punqtebis siaxloves<br />
amdagvari nivTierebebis<br />
ganTavseba, radgan es safrTxis<br />
Semcvelia. im sacavSi mxolod<br />
qlori iyo, radgan is firma<br />
`Tbilis-wyalmomaragebas~, anu<br />
isev ruseTs emsaxureba, romelic<br />
mas xelSi nacionalebma Caugdes.<br />
es mimwodebeli firma<br />
iranulia. aq marto is ki ar<br />
aris saintereso, rac moxda,<br />
aramed is, rom, roca tenderi<br />
gamocxadda qloris miwodebas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT, `jorjian vo-<br />
Ter end fauerma~, miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom ganacxadi uamrav<br />
firmas hqonda wardgenili, mainc<br />
da mainc upiratesoba am iranul<br />
firmas mianiWa da mas gaamarjvebina,<br />
esec, ra Tqma unda, politikuri<br />
sakiTxi iyo. qlori naklebad<br />
toqsikuri nu ggoniaT.<br />
maRalkoncentrirebuli qlori<br />
saSinlad toqsikuria da misi<br />
SesunTqva filtvebis damwvrobas<br />
da saSinel mowamvlas iwvevs.<br />
adamiani cocxali romc gadarCes,<br />
qlori garkveuli periodis<br />
ganmavlobaSi mainc muSaobs,<br />
radgan sisxlis saSualebiT<br />
gadadis mTel organizmSi da<br />
ujredebSi rCeba. filtvis damwvrobis<br />
dros irRveva sisxlis<br />
mimoqcevis sistema, ramac SeiZleba<br />
tvinis ujredebis kvdoma<br />
gamoiwvios.<br />
me imave dRes mivawode medias<br />
informacia, magram ratomRac<br />
aravin gaaSuqa, rom arsebobs kanoni<br />
saSiSi nivTierebebiT zianis<br />
miyenebis SemTxvevaSi zaralis<br />
anazRaurebis Sesaxeb. ase rom,<br />
yvela adamians, vinc ziani miiRo<br />
am incidentTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
ufleba aqvs kompensacia moiTxovos<br />
da miiRos.<br />
_ ori wlis win gauuqmebiaT<br />
kanoni saxifaTo nivTierebebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT da dazaralebulebs<br />
kompensacias vinRa gadauxdis?<br />
bolo aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi onkologiur<br />
daavadebaTa ricxvi mTel saqarTveloSi<br />
orjer, bolnisis raionSi ki oTxjer gaizarda<br />
_ es kanoni ki gaauqmes,<br />
magram ss-is kodeqsSi ar<br />
gauqmebula Sesabamisi muxli.<br />
ase rom, dazaralebul<br />
adamianebs kompensaciis mi-<br />
Rebis ufleba aqvT, marto<br />
viRacis dapatimrebiT problema<br />
ar amoiwureba. prokuraturam<br />
unda Seiswavlos<br />
is xelSekrulebebi, romelic<br />
Tbilisis wyalmomaragebasa<br />
da am firmas Sorisaa dadebuli<br />
- ra pirobebis safuZvelze air-<br />
Cies es firma, anu usafrTxoebis<br />
ra garantiebis gamo mianiWes mas<br />
prioriteti, Tu marto Tanxa<br />
iyo maTTvis mniSvnelovani. Cven<br />
isic ar viciT, iq sinamdvileSi<br />
ra moxda, avzi gaskda Tu marTlac<br />
Tavi mosZvra. faqtia, rom<br />
usafrTxoeba daculi ar iyo.<br />
qlors aseTi Tviseba aqvs, Tu is<br />
iseT avzSia moTavsebuli, Tanac<br />
didi xniT, romelic kargad ar<br />
aris gawmendili, azotTan iseT<br />
naerTebs warmoSobs, romelic<br />
feTqebadia. Tu es naerTebi dagrovda,<br />
SeiZleba afeTqda da avzi<br />
gaskda. vimeoreb, me ar vici, iq<br />
zustad ra moxda, magram aseTi<br />
faqtebi arsebobs, amitomac usafrTxoebis<br />
dacvaa ZiriTadi<br />
faqtori.<br />
_ mosaxleobisa da arasamTavroboebis<br />
mxridan didi ukmayofileba<br />
mohyva rusTavSi sacxovrebeli<br />
korpusebis siaxloves<br />
gazgasamarTi sadguris mSeneblobas.<br />
Turme es mSenebloba kanonieri<br />
yofila da adgilobrivma<br />
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usafrTxoebis normebi sru-<br />
lad iqneba daculio. arada, Tavis<br />
droze, rogorc uSiSroebis<br />
profesionalma kadrebma miTxres,<br />
dauSvebelia mosaxleobis siaxloves,<br />
miT umetes dedaqalaqSi<br />
yovel nabijze benzingasamarTi<br />
sadgurebis gaxsnac. mters teraqtebisTvis<br />
gansakuTrebuli<br />
gegmis SemuSaveba arc daWirdeba,<br />
radgan TiTo mokidebuli<br />
asanTis Reri rom Seagdon am<br />
sadgurebSi, mTel Tbiliss haer-<br />
Si aweveno. Tqveni azriT, am mSeneblobebze<br />
nebarTvebis gacema<br />
ucodinarobiT xdeba Tu yvelaferi<br />
fulTan asocirdeba?<br />
- usafrTxoebasTan dakavSirebuli<br />
sistemebi, vgulisxmob,<br />
rogorc sagareo, ise Sida faqtorebs,<br />
saxelmwifos prerogativaa,<br />
man unda uzrunvelhyos,<br />
rac sakanonmdeblo doneze xdeba.<br />
rodesac saSineli korufciaa<br />
qveyanaSi, Sesabamisi kanonmdebloba<br />
romc arsebobdes, mas mainc<br />
aravin aqcevs yuradRebas. mainc<br />
aaSeneben, SeiZleba mepatrone ra-<br />
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magram is im obieqts Seinar-<br />
Cunebs da fuls gaakeTebs. Tanac<br />
marto benzin da gazgasamarT<br />
sadgurebze ar aris aq laparaki.<br />
gnebavT, qloris es gaJonva avi-<br />
RoT. garda amisa, imazec visaubroT,<br />
Tu rogor wamlaven mosaxleobas<br />
sasmeli wyliTa da Tundac<br />
adgilobrivi soflis meurneobis<br />
produqtebiT, importulze<br />
aRarafers vambob. mimdinare<br />
wlis martSi parlamentma miiRo<br />
kanoni, romlis mixedviTac ker-<br />
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gadawvan tyeebi, wyalSi<br />
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adamianebs saxeSi Seasxuron<br />
toqsikuri nivTierebebi da maT<br />
amaze pasuxs aravin moTxovs. am<br />
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT `mwvaneTa<br />
partiam~ aprilSi parlamentTan<br />
xalxmravali aqciac moawyo,<br />
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es ar gaaSuqa. kanonis ZalaSi<br />
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romel kompanias epatieboda<br />
yvela is ss-is danaSauli,<br />
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hqonda Cadenili. pirveli<br />
`Sewyalebuli~ s/s `madneulisa~<br />
da Sps `kvarcitis~ mflobeli<br />
rusuli `kapital jgufia~, romelic<br />
amuSavebs bolnisis sabadoebs,<br />
mopovebuli oqrosa da<br />
spilenZis eqsports eweva, kolosaluri<br />
odenobis fuls Soulobs,<br />
samagierod, toqsikuri<br />
nivTierebebiT wamlavs mTel<br />
bolnisis raions. Cven xelSi<br />
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safuZvelze miRebuli SeTanxmeba,<br />
am rusul kompaniasa da saqarTvelos<br />
energetikisa da bunebrivi<br />
resursebis saministros Soris,<br />
romlis mixedviTac `kapital<br />
jgufs~ yvelaferi epatieba, ra-<br />
Sic man 13 milioni lari unda<br />
gadaixados, Tanac erTbaSad ki<br />
ara, 2014 wlamde gawerili grafikiT.<br />
xsenebuli kanonis mixedviT,<br />
aravis aqvs ufleba SeTanxmebiT<br />
gansazRvrul periodSi Seamow-<br />
mos, kontroli gauwios an raime<br />
sxva RonisZieba gaataros im<br />
kompaniebis mimarT, visac fuli<br />
aqvs gadaxdili. xsenebuli sawarmoebidan<br />
gamosuli sawamlavi<br />
Caedineba mdinare kazreTulasa<br />
da maSaveraSi, aq gakeTebuli 31kilometriani<br />
sarwyavi sistemiT<br />
ki <strong>15</strong> soflis savargulebi irwyveba.<br />
am soflebSi mcxovreb 7<br />
aTas komls xom wamlaven da<br />
iwamleba lamis mTeli qvemo qar-<br />
Tli da Tbilisic, radgan iq mo-<br />
weuli xili da bostneuli<br />
yvelgan iyideba. qarTveli da<br />
germaneli eqspertebis daskvnebiT,<br />
sasmel da sarwyav wylebSi,<br />
niadagSi, mcenareebsa da produqtSi<br />
iseTi maRaltoqsikuri niv-<br />
Tierebebia gadasuli, ro<strong>gori</strong>caa<br />
spilenZi, TuTia, kadmiumi, TiTberi<br />
da a.S. sasmel wyalSi am<br />
mZime liTonebis Semcveloba dasaSvebze<br />
33-jer metia, sarwyav<br />
wyalSi spilenZis Semcveloba<br />
40-jer aRemateba dasaSvebs. amitomacaa<br />
bolnisis raionSi daavadebaTa<br />
mxriv katastrofuli<br />
mdgomareoba - anemiebi, onkologiuri<br />
daavadebebi, maxinji bavSvebis<br />
dabadeba. oficialuri monacemebiT,<br />
bolo aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
Tu mTel saqarTvelo-<br />
Si gaormagda onkologiur daavadebaTa<br />
raodenoba, bolnisis<br />
raionSi oTxjer aris gazrdili.<br />
ai, amaSi gadaaxdevines rusebs<br />
fuli da igive unda gagrZeldes.<br />
_ rogorc TviTmxilvelebma<br />
miTxres, oqros da spilenZis mopoveba<br />
Ria karierebSi xdeba,<br />
romlebsac Semdeg atmosferuli<br />
naleqebi recxavs da es siTxe<br />
yovelgvari gawmendis gareSe<br />
mdinareSi Caedineba...<br />
_ Ria karierebi mTel msoflioSi<br />
arsebobs, magram civilizebul<br />
qveynebSi usafrTxoeba<br />
srulad aris uzrunvelyofili,<br />
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi iq momu-<br />
Save kompaniebs marto gakotrebas<br />
ar akmareben, radgan im qveynebSi<br />
mZlavri kanonmdebloba<br />
moqmedebs. iq Tu arsebobs usaf-<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
rTxoebis damcavi teqnologiebi,<br />
ratom ar SeiZleba saqarTvelo-<br />
Sic gamoiyenon? warmoidgineT,<br />
madneulis sawarmos iq qlorze<br />
gacilebiT toqsikuri nivTiereba,<br />
kaliumis cianidi tonobiT<br />
Seaqvs, romelsac oqros misaRebad<br />
iyeneben. am nivTierebis Zalze<br />
mcire dozac ki myisierad iwvevs<br />
centraluri nervuli sistemis<br />
paralizebas. iq mTebad<br />
aris dagrovili oqros Semcveli<br />
nedleuli, romelsac kaliumis<br />
cianidis xsnariT rwyaven. qvemoT<br />
specialuri mowyobilobaa, romelsac<br />
qanidan oqro gamoaqvs.<br />
Ria cisqveS dayril am e.w. mTeb-<br />
Si axlac aris tonobiT dagrovili<br />
kaliumis cianidi, romelsac<br />
wvima daedineba da mdinareSi<br />
recxavs. SevardnaZis mmarTvelobisas<br />
frangebi iyvnen Camosuli,<br />
romlebic xelisuflebas sTavazobdnen,<br />
mogveciT es obieqti da<br />
mas sruliad usafrTxos gavxdi-<br />
To. e.i. arsebobda gawmendis me-<br />
Todi. ramdenime wlis win rumineTSi,<br />
sadac oqros mopovebas<br />
daaxloebiT iseTive teqnologiiT<br />
awarmoebdnen, rogorc saqar-<br />
TveloSi, mTa Camoingra da SigniT<br />
dagrovili kaliumis cianidi<br />
garemoSi gadmoiRvara. mimdebare<br />
teritoriidan mTeli soflebi<br />
gaasaxles, xalxi rom ar daxociliyo,<br />
bunebasa da garemoze<br />
aRaraa saubari, yvelaferi amowyda.<br />
es iyo tragedia, globaluri<br />
ekokatastrofa, romelic marto<br />
rumineTs ki ar Seexo, mdinareebma<br />
danarCen evropaSic gadaitana.<br />
amitomacaa qveyanaSi aucilebeli<br />
usafrTxoebis sistema, rasac<br />
iseTi xelisufleba sWirdeba,<br />
romelic marto sakuTar jibeze<br />
ki ara, qveyanazec ifiqrebs.<br />
zemoxsenebul kanonSi im<br />
cvlilebebis Setana, romelic<br />
fulis gadaxdis sanacvlod kompanias<br />
yvelafris uflebas aZlevs,<br />
specialurad am rusuli<br />
kompaniisTvis gakeTda, radgan,<br />
Cveni informaciiT, amasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT TebervalSi daiwyo rusebTan<br />
molaparakeba. rogorc<br />
Cans, rusebma yvela im codvis<br />
patieba moiTxoves, rac bolnisis<br />
raionSi aqvT Cadenili. amitom<br />
parlamentma daCqarebuli wesiT<br />
miiRo es cvlilebebi. Cven kate<strong>gori</strong>ulad<br />
viTxovT am SeTanxmebis<br />
gauqmebas. is subieqtebi<br />
aucileblad unda daisajon da<br />
daisjebian kidec Cadenili dana-<br />
SaulisTvis.<br />
manana suxiSvili
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
27 maiss TbilisSi<br />
bevri xalxi iyo.<br />
10 ivniss quTaisSi<br />
bevri xalxi iyo.<br />
17 ivniss ozurgeT-<br />
Si bevri xalxi iyo.<br />
1 ivliss mcxeTaSi<br />
bevri xalxi iyo.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom TbilisSic<br />
bevri xalxi iyo, qu-<br />
TaisSic, ozurgeTSic da<br />
mcxeTaSic, paralelurad ar<br />
Semwydara saubari imis Sesaxeb,<br />
rom SeiZleba saqme arCevnebamde<br />
verc mivides, ris safuZvelsac<br />
xelisuflebis mier<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg<br />
Tamamad ganxorcielebuli<br />
represiebi da mkacri sanqciebi<br />
iZleva, riTac saakaSvili<br />
da `nacmoZraoba~ Riad da<br />
daufaravad acxadebs: Tu gindaT<br />
asiaTasi SeikribeT, Tu<br />
gindaT naxevari milioni, sul<br />
fexebze gvkidixarT, Cven mainc<br />
imas gavakeTebT, rasac<br />
aqamde vakeTebdiT _ Tqvens<br />
liders arc moqalaqeobas davubrunebT,<br />
arc saarCevno kampaniis<br />
normalurad Catarebis<br />
saSualebas mivcemT _ milionebs<br />
SevawerT, qonebas davuyadaRebT,<br />
mxardamWerebs gavulaxavT,<br />
davuWerT, davuSinebT<br />
da Tu saWiro gaxdeba, arc<br />
mis daWeras an qveynidan gaZevebas<br />
moveridebiT.<br />
ai, aseTia xelisuflebis pasuxi<br />
_ abuCad amgdebi, Seuracxmyofeli,<br />
udieri pasuxi.<br />
* * *<br />
ratom xdeba ase? nuTu xelisuflebisTvis<br />
arafers niSnavs<br />
uamravi moqalaqis quCaSi<br />
gamosvla? arafers niSnavs maTi<br />
survili, maTi moTxovna, maTi<br />
protesti, ainunSic rom ar agdebs<br />
maT da viTom verc xedavs<br />
am asiaTasebs, viTom verc amCnevs?<br />
Cemi azriT, mizezi amisa is<br />
gaxlavT, rom es aqciebi, ase<br />
vTqvaT, dramaturgiulad arasworad<br />
aris dagegmili.<br />
Tu aqciebs warmovidgenT,<br />
rogorc Ria cisqveS dadgmul<br />
did, grandiozuli masStabis<br />
speqtakls da mis msvlelobas<br />
Tvals gavadevnebT, aRmoCndeba,<br />
rom am speqtaklSi xalxs mxolod<br />
statistis, mxolod mayureblis<br />
roli aqvs, romelic<br />
taSs ukravs scenaze gamomsvlel<br />
politikur aqtiorebs,<br />
usmens maT gamosvlebs da `speqtaklis~<br />
damTavrebis Semdeg<br />
saxlSi midis.<br />
arada, mitingi marTlac Teatraluri<br />
speqtakli xom ar<br />
aris, is, pirvel yovlisa, politikuri<br />
Sinaarsis aqciaa, sadac<br />
mTavari gmiri, mTavari personaJi<br />
xalxia.<br />
samcuxarod, arc TbilisSi,<br />
arc quTaisSi, arc ozurgeTSi,<br />
arc mcxeTaSi tribuna aravis<br />
dauTmia am aqciebis monawile<br />
moqalaqeebisTvis, aravis mousmenia<br />
maTi mosazrebebi.<br />
politikuri xasiaTis mitingi<br />
ar aris erTi `msaxiobis~<br />
Teatri, ar aris piesa mxolod<br />
erTi aqtiorisTvis, politikuri<br />
mitingi koleqtiuri, sayovelTao<br />
saxalxo `warmodgenaa~,<br />
romlis yvela monawile am warmodgenis<br />
mTavar moqmed gmirad<br />
unda grZnobdes Tavs.<br />
ase iqmneba erT Zalad Sekruli<br />
koleqtiuri energia, romelsac<br />
verc erTi xelisufle-<br />
ba ver daudgeba win, Tu es<br />
energia swor kalapotSi iqneba<br />
miSvebuli.<br />
rogorc vTqviT, mTavari politikuri<br />
subieqti, mTavari<br />
politikuri personaJi aris<br />
xalxi, romelsac ar SeiZleba<br />
mxolod munji `masovkis~ roli<br />
arguno.<br />
xelisufleba imitomac ar<br />
reagirebs am mravalaTasian mitingebze,<br />
rom am mitingis monawileni<br />
arc arafers iTxoven<br />
xelisuflebisgan _ ar iTxoven<br />
Tundac biZina ivaniSvilisTvis<br />
moqalaqeobis dabrunebas, ar<br />
iTxoven ivaniSvilis politikuri<br />
devnis Sewyvetas, ar iTxoven<br />
am Sizoiduri xasiaTis jarimebis<br />
da dayadaRebebis gauqmebas,<br />
ar iTxoven dapatimrebuli<br />
adamianebis gaTavisuflebas,<br />
ar iTxoven uRirsi mosamarTleebis<br />
dasjas, ar iTxoven mogelaZis<br />
kantoris danaSaulebrivi<br />
qmedebebis aRkveTas da<br />
roca isini arafers ar iTxoven,<br />
xelisuflebam raze unda<br />
moaxdinos reagireba da raze<br />
unda gasces pasuxi?<br />
xelisufleba dRes<br />
biZina ivaniSvils<br />
ebrZvis, rogorc kerZo<br />
pirs, rogorc<br />
kerZo samarTlis<br />
pirs da iqmneba STabeWdileba,<br />
rom es<br />
ambavi saerTod, ar<br />
exeba im asiaTasobiT<br />
moqalaqes, romlebic<br />
koalicia `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ mxardamWermitingebze<br />
dganan.<br />
arada, rogor ar exebaT?<br />
sinamdvileSi xom xelisufleba<br />
mxolod ivaniSvils ki<br />
ara, qarTuli xalxis im nawils<br />
ebrZvis, romelic ar<br />
egueba am xelisuflebis mier<br />
damkvidrebul Zaladobas, usamarTlobas,<br />
avtoritarizms, genocidTan<br />
miaxloebul qmedebebs,<br />
elitarul korufcias, romelic<br />
aris safuZvelT safuZveli uamravi<br />
adamianis gaRaribeba-gaRatakebisa,<br />
im upasuxismgeblo nabijebs,<br />
romlebic gaxda mizezi<br />
2008 wlis agvistos omis dawyebisa<br />
da romlis Sedegadac qar-<br />
Tuli saxelmwifos rRvevis<br />
procesma SeiZleba katastrofuli<br />
xasiaTi miiRos da a.S. da a.S.<br />
* * *<br />
_ xelisuflebis Secvla<br />
mxolod arCevnebis<br />
gziT unda moxdes!<br />
_ xSirad `gaigonebT am<br />
frazas, rogorc koalicia<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ liderisgan,<br />
aseve am koaliciis sxva wevrebisganac.<br />
TavisTavad cxadia, es swori<br />
da yvelasTvis misaRebi<br />
formulaa _ xelisuflebis<br />
cvla, ra Tqma unda, arCevnebisas<br />
unda moxdes, magram es<br />
imas xom ar niSnavs, rom arCevnebamde<br />
xelisuflebas yvelafris<br />
ufleba unda mivceT, yvelaferze<br />
Tavi unda davuxaroT?<br />
aravin ambobs, qvebiT<br />
da joxebiT SeiaraRebulnigamovcvivdeT<br />
quCaSi, SeviWraT<br />
parlamentSi, SeviWraT<br />
kancelariaSi, SeviWraT<br />
prezidentis<br />
rezidenciaSi da ase,<br />
Zaladobrivi gziT da-<br />
vamxoTxelisuflebao, magram am mravala-<br />
Tasian mitingebze konkretuli<br />
moTxovnebis<br />
da samarTliani pretenziebis<br />
wamoyeneba<br />
vin agvikrZala?<br />
_ xelisuflebas surs quCa-<br />
Si gamogvityuos da iq gagviswordes.<br />
ai, amis sababi ar unda<br />
mivceTo, _ amgvar mosazrebasac<br />
xSirad gaigonebT koalicia<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ liderebisgan.<br />
ki, magram, ras niSnavs quCa-<br />
Si gamotyueba? es grandiozuli<br />
mitingebi quCaSi ar imarTeba?<br />
rac Seexeba sababs,<br />
ufro didi sababi ra<br />
SeiZleba iyos, vidre<br />
imis gancxadeba, rom<br />
`qarTuli ocneba~ oqtombris<br />
arCevnebSi<br />
aucileblad daamarcxebs<br />
`nac. moZraobas~<br />
da parlamentSi umravlesobiT<br />
Seva?<br />
amaze ufro didi<br />
sababi ra SeiZleba<br />
iyos am xelisuflebisTvis,<br />
vidre arCevnebSi<br />
damarcxebis sa-<br />
SiSroeba, rac misTvis<br />
absoluturi katastrofaa?<br />
elementaruli logikaa _<br />
Tu xelisufleba miva im daskvnamde,<br />
rom oqtomberSi arCevnebs<br />
agebs, is yvelafers gaakeTebs<br />
imisTvis, rom gzidan Camoicilos<br />
mTavari konkurenti _ bi-<br />
Zina ivaniSvili, lideris gareSe<br />
darCenil koalicias ki arCevneb-<br />
dauSvebelia imis fiqrad<br />
gavlebac ki, rom SeiZleba<br />
saakaSvilis cixeSi<br />
biZina ivaniSvili ijdes<br />
Si advilad gauswordeba.<br />
_ Cven amisTvisac mzad<br />
varT... Tu raRac mizezebis gamo<br />
me ver miviReb monawileobas<br />
arCevnebSi, iqneba koalicia,<br />
romelsac Cemi saxeli erqmeva<br />
da es sakmarisia, rom xalxma<br />
Cven mogvces xma, _ ambobs batoni<br />
biZina.<br />
ara mgonia, es mosazreba didi<br />
optimizmis uflebas gvaZlevdes.<br />
saqmes is aris, rom es asiaTasobiT<br />
adamiani personalu-<br />
rad erT adamians, biZina ivaniSvils<br />
uWers mxars da mis avtoritets<br />
veravin da veraferi<br />
ver Caanacvlebs.<br />
esec ar iyos, ivaniSvilis<br />
CamoSoreba politikuri procesebidan<br />
uzarmazari fsiqologiuri<br />
dartyma iqneba misi mxardamWerebisTvis,<br />
rac advili SesaZlebelia<br />
nihilizmsa da uimedobaSi<br />
gadaizardos da mkveTrad<br />
Seamciros ivaniSvilis<br />
mxardamWerTa aqtiuroba arCevnebis<br />
periodSi.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
_ Cven unda mivideT arCevnebamde<br />
da yvelaferi unda gavakeToT<br />
imisTvis, rom Catardes<br />
samarTliani obieqturi ar-<br />
Cevnebi. Tu xelisufleba gaayalbebs<br />
arCevnebs, Cven aucileblad<br />
davicavT Cvens xmebs _<br />
acxadeben koaliciis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
gayalbebis Semdeg<br />
xmebis dacva da warTmeulis<br />
ukan dabruneba<br />
Zalian Zneli, TiTqmis<br />
SeuZlebeli iqneba.<br />
am xmebis dacva axlaa<br />
saWiro, ise,rogorc<br />
axlaa saWiro biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis dacva Zalmomreobisa<br />
da represiisgan.<br />
xelisuflebam arCevnebis gayalbeba<br />
ukve daiwyo da arCevnebis<br />
Sedegebze zemoqmedebis yvela<br />
berketi mTeli simZlavriT<br />
aamuSava, ise, rogorc aamuSava<br />
yvela berketi biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
politikuri asparezidan<br />
gasaZeveblad, koalicia `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ aqciebze ki kvlav<br />
da kvlav jiutad ar exebian am<br />
yvelaze mwvave sakiTxebs.<br />
_ yvelaze uaresi,<br />
rac biZina ivaniSvils<br />
emuqreba am xelisuflebisgan,deportaciaa...<br />
Tu es moxdeba, arc<br />
esaa didi ubedureba _<br />
Cven gavimarjvebT ar-<br />
CevnebSi da batoni bi-<br />
Zinac dabrundeba, _<br />
aseTi arxeini gancxadebac<br />
movismine koaliciis<br />
erT-erTi wevrisgan.<br />
RmerTma qnas, rom gaimarjvoT,<br />
pativcemulo koalicionerebo,<br />
Tumca, vfiqrob, ivaniSvilis<br />
gareSe amis gakeTeba Zalian<br />
gagiWirdebaT...<br />
amasac rom Tavi davaneboT,<br />
deportaciis garSemo saubaric<br />
Semogdebuli mgonia _ ra deportacia,<br />
ris deportacia _<br />
ver xedavT, rom es xelisufleba<br />
ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg<br />
sisxlis samarTlis saqmes keravs<br />
da ukve isedac sqeltanian<br />
`sabraldebo~ toms<br />
yoveldRe axal furcels<br />
umatebs?<br />
Zneli misaxvedria<br />
es?<br />
Tqven ra, RmerTma<br />
nu qnas da<br />
biZina ivaniSvils<br />
karze rom<br />
miukakuneben, mxolod<br />
maSin apirebT<br />
laSqris<br />
daZvras?<br />
garwmunebT,<br />
gviani iqneba,<br />
ver miuswrebT<br />
da verc uSveliT.<br />
_ Tu saWiro gaxdeba,<br />
cixeSic Cavjdebi.<br />
cixeSi jdomis ar meSinia,<br />
_ ganacxada batonma biZinam.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom am<br />
gancxadebaSi ivaniSvilis Seupovari<br />
da uSiSari xasiaTi kargad<br />
Cans, arc es gancxadeba<br />
momwons maincdamainc...<br />
dauSvebelia imis fiqrad<br />
gavlebac ki, rom SeiZleba saakaSvilis<br />
cixeSi biZina ivaniSvili<br />
ijdes...<br />
es rom ar moxdes, CaurTeT<br />
xalxs mikrofoni, batonebo...<br />
giorgi<br />
gamezardaSvili<br />
5
6 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
gvesaubreba eqsperti kavkasiis<br />
sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZe<br />
_ batono mamuka, saxelisuflebo<br />
televiziebma da opoziciam evroparlamentSi<br />
gamarTul debatebze urTierTgamomricxavi<br />
informaciebi gaavrceles.<br />
sad aris simarTle?<br />
_ simarTle rogorc yovelTvis<br />
SuaSia. minda evroparlamentSi gamarTuli<br />
debatebis struqtura da<br />
formati gagacnoT. Tumca, manamde<br />
unda giTxraT, Tu rogor muSaobs<br />
evroparlamenti. aq sxvadasxva qveynis<br />
politikuri warmomadgenloba<br />
erTiandeba, magram arsebobs ramdenime<br />
transevropuli partia, romlebic<br />
evroparlamentSia warmodgenili. maT<br />
rigs ganekuTvneba, magaliTad, evropis<br />
saxalxo partia _ esaa ramodenime,<br />
sxvadasxva tipis partiebis konglomerati,<br />
sadac sxvadasxva qveynis<br />
warmomadgenlebi arian Tavmoyrilni.<br />
saxalxo partia adre qristian-demokratiuli<br />
aliansi iyo. dRes evropaSi<br />
ramodenime aseTi tipis aliansia:<br />
erTia-saxalxo partia, meore _<br />
social-demokratiuli partiebis er-<br />
Tianoba da mesame _ evropis liberaluri<br />
partia. vimeoreb, am partiebSi<br />
sxvadasxva erovnebis, partiuli kuTvnilebis<br />
adamianebi, erTiandebian,<br />
romelTac erTnairi faseulobebi<br />
aqvT. social-demokratebi _ memarcxeneebi<br />
arian, danarCeni zogi liberali,<br />
zogic memarjvene mimarTulebisaa.<br />
saxalxo partiaSi saqarTvelodan<br />
`qristian-demokratebi~ da<br />
`nac.moZraobaa~ gaerTianebuli. sxva-<br />
Ta Soris, Zalian sainteresoa, rom<br />
`nacionaluri moZraobis~ liderebi<br />
mudmivad liberalur faseulobebze<br />
akeTeben aqcents, am dros, gaerTianebulni<br />
arian ara liberalur koaliciaSi,<br />
aramed saxalxo partiaSi, romelsac<br />
ufro memarjvene pozicia<br />
aqvs. `Tavisufali demokratebi~ da<br />
`respublikelebi~ ki liberalur koaliciaSi<br />
arian. praqtikulad im<br />
dRes evroparlamentis sxdomaze evropis<br />
saxalxo partiis da liberaluri<br />
gaerTianebis brZola iyo. es<br />
iyo sufTa koniunqturuli brZola,<br />
saqarTvelos sakiTxi ubralod foni<br />
iyo da meti araferi. sul 12 adamiani<br />
gamovida _ 5 saxalxo partiis<br />
warmomadgeneli, romelic opozicias<br />
aginebda da xelisuflebas icavda, 4<br />
liberali, romelic opozicias icavda<br />
da xelisuflebas aginebda, xolo<br />
danarCeni 3 neitraluri iyo. magali-<br />
Tad, roca rom pei TbilisSi imyofeboda<br />
sxva ram Tqva, misma moadgilem<br />
evrokavSirSi ki _ absoluturad<br />
sxva ram rac Seexeba imas, Tu ras<br />
fiqroben am Sexvedraze CvenTan _<br />
erTni amboben, rom es antisaxelisuflebo<br />
Sekreba iyo, meoreni ki sapirispiros<br />
amtkiceben. simarTle<br />
sadRac SuaSia.<br />
_ magram riT aris opoziciisT-<br />
vis es debatebi warmatebuli?<br />
_ erTi imiT, rom es<br />
debatebi Sedga, rasac<br />
Zalian didi mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs. saqarTveloSi<br />
yvelaferi rigze rom<br />
iyos, debatebi ar Sedgeboda. evroparlamentis<br />
wevrebma ician, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
arCevnebamde mimavali<br />
gza vardebiT mofenili araa. ai, amis<br />
gamo Sedga debatebi. es faqti metyvelebs,<br />
rom saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
ver uzrunvelhyofs arCevnebis<br />
normalurad Catarebas da demokratiuli<br />
fonis Seqmnas. getyviT imasac,<br />
rom CemTvis absoluturad araviTari<br />
mniSvneloba ar aqvs, ra ilaparaka<br />
evroparlamentSi dapirispirebulma<br />
mxarem, imitom rom, es ar<br />
aris saqarTveloze gulSematkivari<br />
adamianebis saubari. pirvel rigSi, es<br />
iyo urTierTdapirispirebuli partiebis<br />
debatebi. aseTive warmatebiT SeiZleboda<br />
debatebi gaemarTaT Temaze<br />
_ balaxi mwvanea Tuki lurji, Tu<br />
es evropuli politikisTvis aqtualuri<br />
iqneboda. mTavaria, rom debatebi<br />
gaimarTa, rac udavod saqarTvelos<br />
opoziciis aqtivSia da xelisuflebis<br />
pasivSi, imitomac iyo es<br />
ukanaskneli am debatebis winaaRmdegi<br />
_ precendentis Seqmna ar undodaT.<br />
_ Tumca, rodesac evroparlamentis<br />
wevrebis debatebs vusmendi, momeCvena,<br />
rom ivaniSvilis mlanZRvelebis<br />
teqstebi Zalian waagavda `nacionaluri<br />
moZraobisas~.<br />
_ aseTi SegrZneba imitom gagiCndaT,<br />
rom isini Sesabamisad iyvnen darigebulni.<br />
modiT, amas teqnikurad<br />
SevxedoT: saqarTvelos xelisuflebas<br />
debatebis gamarTva ar undoda da<br />
Sesabamisad amisTvis mzad ar iyo. Sesabamisad,<br />
lobistebis mier, maTi<br />
mxardamWeri evropeli politikosebis<br />
momzadeba faci-fuciT moxda. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, rasac aq xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgeneli ambobs, iq igives<br />
landsbergisi imeorebda. sawinaaRmdego<br />
mxaris argumentacia ufro<br />
meti iyo imitom, rom evropel liberalebs<br />
saqarTveloSi Seqmnil situaciaze<br />
informacia miewodeba ara marto<br />
maTi mokavSire partiebisgan<br />
_`Tavisufali demokratebisa~ da<br />
`respublikelebisgan~, aramed saer-<br />
TaSoriso organizaciebisganac. am pa-<br />
TosiT gansxvavdeboda maTi gamosvlebi.<br />
Tu, vTqvaT, evropeli saxalxo<br />
partiis gamomsvlelebi, saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebis wevrebis saubars imeorebdnen,<br />
liberalebis SemTxvevebSi<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciebis mier<br />
gakeTebuli zogadi Sefasebebic<br />
JRerdeboda. aq kidev erTi, Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovani niuansia _ orive Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi lobistebis muSaoba Canda.<br />
lobisturi organizaciebi efeqturad<br />
muSaoben rogorc xelisuflebis,<br />
ise opoziciis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
rogor ar Canda. opoziciis<br />
mxardamWerebis gamosvlebi ufro<br />
saqmiani iyo, vidre xelisuflebis.<br />
strasburgSi 12 lobisti kompania<br />
aqtiurobs. nawili _ 8 _ xelisuflebas<br />
hyavs daqiravebuli, 4 _ opo-<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
xelisuflebam ver gaigo, rom biZina<br />
ivaniSvili krizisuli situaciebis<br />
marTvis menejeria _ es gansakuTrebuli<br />
fsiqotipia, romelic marTvis pultTan<br />
mokvdeba, magram fexs ar moicvlis...<br />
zicias. amaSi gasakviri araferia. es<br />
msoflio politikaSi miRebuli<br />
praqtikaa, rac Tavisi arsiT SeiZleba<br />
cinikuria, realur suraTs ar<br />
warmoadgens, magram politikuri<br />
brZolis wesia.<br />
_ xSirad mesmis opoziciidan _<br />
axla sul sxva mdgomareobaa da ar-<br />
CevnebSi aucileblad gavimarjvebTo.<br />
Tumca axlo warsulSi gvqonda Semdegi<br />
mocemuloba _ maTias iorSma<br />
xelisuflebas arCevnebi `gauprava~,<br />
mailsma _`vardebis revolucia~ mogviwyo,<br />
basma _ 26 maisi. ra, sxva<br />
mdgomareobaa axla ra gvaqvs ukeTesi<br />
_ is rom ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobas<br />
ar aZleven, qonebas auqcionze hyidian<br />
Tu ra?<br />
_ araferi ukeTesi mdgomareoba<br />
ar aris, maT Soris arc dasavleTeli,<br />
CrdiloeTeli mokavSireebis Tu<br />
mtrebis mxridan. mdgomareoba zustad<br />
iseTivea da arc arasodes Seicvleba.<br />
rac ufro daCaCanakebulad gamoCndebi<br />
maT TvalSi, miT uaresad<br />
mogepyrobian. maSin roca, saxelmwifom<br />
yvelaferi gaakeTa imisTvis, rom<br />
xalxs da TviTonac Rirseba daekarga,<br />
am fonze Zalian rTulia maRal<br />
materiebze ilaparako. Zalian mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom saxelmwifos morali<br />
hqondes, ers hqondes Rirseba. rodesac<br />
saxelmwifos morali da ers ki<br />
Rirseba aqvs dakarguli, Zalian Znelia<br />
pativiscemiT mogepyron. rac Seexeba<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ zogierT<br />
warmomadgenels, romelic ambobs,<br />
rom axla yvelaferi sxvagvarad da<br />
ukeTesadaa, mec `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
warmomadgeneli var, magram ase ar<br />
vlaparakob da arc arasdros vityvi<br />
amas, imitom rom am kuTxiT bevri samuSaoa.<br />
rasakvirvelia, mocemuloba<br />
bevrad ukeTesia. xelT didi plusi<br />
gvaqvs _ eris konsolidacia, rac<br />
orma faqtorma ganapiroba _ biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis politikaSi Semosvlam<br />
da im katastrofulma Secdomebma,<br />
rac `nac.moZraobam~ dauSva. erT-er-<br />
Ti Secdomaa xalxis azris absoluturi<br />
ignorireba. am makonsolidirebel<br />
energias swori warmarTva sWirdeba<br />
da ara _ gafantva. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
sul sxva mdgomareoba ar<br />
aris. Tu Cveni partniorebis, mtrebis<br />
pativiscema ar davibruneT, araferi<br />
gamogviva. xSir SemTxvevaSi,<br />
ver vxedav, rom konkretuli adamianebi,<br />
vinc amboben, rom yvelaferi<br />
kargadaa, am kuTxiT raimes akeTeben,<br />
amaze orientirebulni ar arian.<br />
xSir SemTxvevaSi im adamianebis miCqmalva,<br />
gverdze gaweva xdeba, visac<br />
am kuTxiT amindis Seqmna SeuZliaT,<br />
anu eris energetikis sworad warmarTva.<br />
_ ase Tu gagrZelda, aSkaraa xelisufleba<br />
ivaniSvilis politikuri<br />
procesebidan CamoSorebas martivad<br />
SeZlebs. faqtebi saxezea, dawyebuli<br />
moqalaqeobis daubrunebulobiT, dam-<br />
Tavrebuli qonebis dayadaRebiT da<br />
a.S. am dros ra gvaZlevs optimizmis<br />
safuZvels? aSkaraa, xelisufleba<br />
gadamwyveti safinalo dartymisTvis<br />
emzadeba. Tqven rogor warmogidgeniaT,<br />
ra iqneba finalSi?<br />
_ iciT raSia saqme? _ me safinalo<br />
dartymas ar velodebi, aramed<br />
safinalo dartymebis cikls. dRes<br />
cota sxva viTarebaa Semdegi TvalsazrisiT<br />
_ ianvar-TebervalSi ganuwyvetliv<br />
Tavis marTlebis reJimSi<br />
viyaviT. axla, Tavis gasamarTlebeli<br />
piriqiT xelisuflebas aqvs. biZina<br />
ivaniSvilma Seqmna foni, rodesac xelisufleba<br />
iZulebulia mudmivad<br />
kontrRonisZiebebze ifiqros, amis<br />
gamo, igi Secdomebs uSvebs _ qonebis<br />
dayadaRebebs da a.S. es, maT Zalian<br />
cudad moubrundebaT. Zalian<br />
mikvirs konstituciur sasamarTlo-<br />
Si am kanonis miRebisTanave `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ mxridan, saCivari ratom<br />
ar Sevida. amaze pasuxi dRemde ver<br />
miviRe. miuxedavad imisa, rom processs<br />
ver movigebdiT, es Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovani faqtori iqneboda,<br />
radgan dasavleTSi yuradRebiT adevneben<br />
Tvals nebismieri tipis antikonstituciur<br />
qmedebas.<br />
kidev erTi ram minda aRvniSno _<br />
xelisuflebaSi roca xar biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
buneba unda icode, raTa<br />
aseTi pirobebi ar Seuqmna mas. ra-<br />
tom? _ ivaniSvili krizisuli situaciis<br />
marTvis menejeri. es misi<br />
stiqiaa. rac ufro mZime viTarebaa,<br />
Tavs ise grZnobs, rogorc Tevzi<br />
wyalSi. ivaniSvilma Tqva, Tu undaT<br />
gayidon banki-o. e.i. mas aqvs yovel-<br />
Tvis 3-4-5-6 varianti im SemTxveva-<br />
Si, rodesac krizisuli situaciaa.<br />
amdenad xelisuflebis mTavari Secdoma<br />
isicaa, rom ar ician, rogor<br />
tips eTamaSebian da ro<strong>gori</strong> wesebiT.<br />
Cemi mxridan SemiZlia aseTi pozicia<br />
davafiqsiro _ ar aris problema, Tu<br />
undaT ofisebic waiRon, saxlSi vimuSavebT,<br />
magram es aRSfoTebuli<br />
adamianis naTqvami iqneba. ivaniSvili<br />
seriozulad fiqrobs aseT SemTxvevebzec<br />
da ukve gaTvlili aqvs samomavlo<br />
nabijebi, anu ivaniSvilma xelisuflebas<br />
TamaSis garkveuli wesebi<br />
SesTavaza, xelisufleba am vel-<br />
Si moZraobs da Secdomebs uSvebs.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, ivaniSvili kontrRonisZiebebs<br />
awarmoebs, oRond mis<br />
mier SeTavazebuli TamaSis wesebis<br />
mixedviT.<br />
_ batono mamuka, es gasagebia,<br />
magram Zalian xSirad mesmis koaliciis<br />
wevrebisgan, rom ivaniSvilze<br />
teroristuli aqti mzaddeba. es Tu<br />
asea, Sesabamis zomebs ratom ar<br />
iRebT?<br />
_ aseTi tipis gancxadeba SeiZleba<br />
or SemTxvevaSi gakeTdes: erTi<br />
_ roca marTla gaqvs informacia da<br />
meore _ roca prevencias axden. unda<br />
giTxraT, piradad mqonda informacia,<br />
rom aseTi tipis qmedeba _ ivaniSvilis<br />
likvidacia mzaddeboda da<br />
ar iqneboda gamoyenebuli cecxlsasroli<br />
iaraRi, aramed sxva tipis<br />
iaraRi, romlis Sinaarss ver gavamJ-<br />
Ravneb. ar vici, ra xarisxis dacva<br />
aqvs ivaniSvils, magram vici, rom es<br />
garemoebebi gaTvaliswinebuli aqvs.<br />
mniSvnelovani sxva ramaa _ ivaniSvilis<br />
TamaSis wesebiT moTamaSe xelisufleba,<br />
Tavisi bunebidan gamomdinare,<br />
gamoricxuli araa ukidures zomebze<br />
wavides da sisxli daRvaros.<br />
mereTis epizodi amas mowmobs. aseTi<br />
tipis msxverpli mosalodnelia xelisuflebisgan,<br />
es Riad Cans. es ma-<br />
Sinebs, Torem danarCeni evroparlamentis<br />
wevrebis mosazrebani, qonebis<br />
dayadaReba, Tundac Tavdasxma ivaniSvilze,<br />
romelic uSedegod dasruldeba,<br />
deportaciac ki, ver Secvlis<br />
saerTo suraTs. am sakanonmdeblo<br />
formatSi deportacia gamoricxulia.<br />
Tumca, SeiZleba asec moxdes,<br />
rom kanoni Secvalon, asec rom moxdes<br />
deportirebuli adamiani aTjer<br />
ufro gmiri xdebda, vidre adgilze<br />
darCenili. bevri deportirebuli<br />
adamiani vici, visac ucxoeTidan mouwyvia<br />
revolucia, swored imitom,<br />
rom nacionaluri gmiris tolfasi<br />
gamxdara. weRan giTxariT, rom ivaniSvili<br />
krizisuli situaciebis mar-<br />
Tvis menejeria. es gansakuTrebuli<br />
fsiqotipia, romelic marTvis pult-<br />
Tan mokvdeba, magram fexs ar moicvlis.<br />
es aris adamiani, romelic bolomde<br />
ibrZvis, aseTi buneba arguna<br />
mas gamCenma.<br />
_ sakadro cvlilebebzec minda<br />
gkiTxoT. bevri Tvlis, rom baCo axalaias<br />
daniSvna Sss ministrad biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis faqtoriTaa ganpirobebuli.<br />
_ axalaiasnairi pirovneba wamsvlelia<br />
ivaniSvilis daWeraze, magram<br />
ras moitans es ver vxedav, rom am<br />
daWeriT SeiZleba procesis likvidacia<br />
moxdes. Tu xelisufleba ivaniSvilis<br />
daWeris fonze Caatarebs ar-<br />
Cevnebs, es arCevnebi apriori miuRebeli<br />
iqneba. erevanSi xalxi daxoces,<br />
baqoSi mitingi daarbies, magram es<br />
yvelaferi arCevnebis Semdeg moxda.<br />
arCevnebamde amis gakeTeba xelisuflebas<br />
gauWirdeba, radgan es politikuri<br />
procesis gaCerebas niSnavs.<br />
_ dasawyisSi axseneT aseTi muSaobiT<br />
procenti ver gaizrdebao. rogorc<br />
Cans, bolomde kmayofili ar<br />
xarT muSaobiT. bevri Tqveni kolega<br />
acxadebs, gamarjvebulebi varTo.<br />
_ rac Seexeba imas, rom morCa,<br />
gamarjvebulebi varT _ es tyuilia.<br />
araferi gamarjvebulebi ar varT<br />
jer, magram arc wagebulebi varT. vimeoreb,<br />
50-50-is doneze varT gaCerebuli,<br />
roca vambob, meti muSaobaa sa-<br />
Wiro, amas gulistkivili, malaparakebs,<br />
ar minda, ratom movatyuo Tqveni<br />
mkiTxveli, TviTon ver xedaven Tu<br />
ra?! magram am fonze aqciebi sul<br />
sxva datvirTvis matarebelia. anu,<br />
ucnauri ram moxda _ regionis Sida<br />
konsolidacia, rac saqarTvelosTvis<br />
am formiT ucxo xilia, Torem<br />
kuTxuroba yovelTvis iyo. regionis<br />
Sida konsolidacias Zalian Seuwyo<br />
xeli am aqciebma. axla regionebi er-<br />
TmaneTs ejibrebian, procentuli<br />
TvalsazrisiT visTan ufro meti<br />
xalxi miva. guriaSi kiTxulobdnen _<br />
mitingze modixar? pasuxi iyo _ magaze<br />
ukeTes adgilze sad wavalTo.<br />
mTavaria _ es resursi ar davkargoT.<br />
zogierT StabSi mxarTeZoze arian<br />
wamowolilni, arada imaze unda<br />
fiqrobdnen resursi ar daikargos,<br />
dagrovili energiis realizacia<br />
sworad moxdes. ase rom gamarjvebis<br />
Sansi uzarmazaria, ubralod, procesis<br />
swored warmarTvaa saWiro, raTa<br />
Sedegi miviRoT.<br />
Tamar SveliZe
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
goga xaindrava: gatarebuli<br />
sakadro cvlilebebi gamoiwvevs ruseTis<br />
faqtoris (rolis) gaZlierebas<br />
saqarTveloSi. radgan merabiSvili<br />
rom ruseTis kacia, eWvi aRaravis<br />
ar unda eparebodes. mTeli<br />
rigi warmatebebi, rac ruseTs<br />
gaaCnia saqarTvelos teritoriebis<br />
miTvisebaSi, kodoris xeobasa<br />
Tu cxinvalSi, uSualod vano<br />
merabiSvilis monawileobiT xorcieldeboda.<br />
garda amisa, merabiSvils<br />
iseTi piari saqarTveloSi<br />
ar hqonia, rogorc rusul presaSi.<br />
es ar aris mxolod interviuebi, es<br />
aris politikosebis wiTeli Seferilobis<br />
Sefasebebi misi reformatruli<br />
niWis Sesaxeb. xolo Tu reformis<br />
popularizacias axdenda, rogorc<br />
Tavad ambobs, raRa ruseTSi<br />
axdenda, maincdamainc ruseTi ratom<br />
iyo dainteresebuli am miRwevebis<br />
gaSuqebiT?! jgufma, romelic rusuli<br />
interesebis gamtarebeli iyo saqarTveloSi,<br />
pirdapir miiRo davaleba<br />
da es davaleba Seasrula saakaSvilma.<br />
rac Seexeba Sida dapirispirebas,<br />
bunebrivia, axalaia ar Seasrulebs<br />
merabiSvilis brZanebebs. axalaia imdenad<br />
gadidkacda, es boganoebs xSirad<br />
mosdiT xolme, sulac ar<br />
Tvlis aucileblad, Tavisi gadawyvetilebebi<br />
SeuTanxmos merabiSvils.<br />
merabiSvili marTavda yvelafers, nebismieri<br />
ministri iyo misi xelis<br />
biWi. axalaias SemTxvevaSi es ese ar<br />
iqneba. axalaias pirdapiri urTieroba<br />
aqvs saakaSvilTan da mas merabiSvili<br />
ar sWirdeba.<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania meore axalias<br />
daniSvna Tavdacvis saministroSi.<br />
ori Zalovani sturqtura,<br />
romlis imedzea darCenili saakaSvili<br />
da, me vfiqrob, rom absoluturad<br />
usafuZvlod, am sakadro cvlilebiT<br />
sakuTari xelqveiTebis daqvemdebarebaSi<br />
moaqcia. jarSi arc<br />
arasodes hqonia saakaSvils dasayrdeni,<br />
miT ufro 2008 wlis agvistos<br />
mere. xolo Sss-Si yovelTvis<br />
iyo merabiSvilis kulti, misi xalxi<br />
da ara saakaSvilis kulti.<br />
es ar aris Segnebuli gadawyvetileba,<br />
es aris maniakaluri gadawyvetileba,<br />
radgan saakaSvili didi<br />
xania ukve absoluturad degradirebul<br />
mdgomareobaSia. ubralod merabiSvilis<br />
arseboba imeds aZlevs saakaSvils,<br />
rom igi Tundac politikur<br />
gvamad qceuli gaagrZelebs am<br />
qveynis marTvas raRac formebSi.<br />
amavdroulad, maniakaluri mdgomareobidan<br />
gamomdinare, aravis aRar<br />
endoba. yvelaze didi safrTxe<br />
politikuri TvalsazrisiT, misTvis<br />
swored merabiSvilia. mas esmis, rom<br />
erTaderTi gadarCenis<br />
Sansi merabiSvilisTvis<br />
aris saakaSvilis CaSveba,<br />
ufro sworad Carecxva,<br />
rasac is aucileblad ganaxorcielebs.<br />
saakaSvilma kargad icis,<br />
rom gapremiereba aris<br />
vanos uZlevelobis miTis<br />
dangreva. merabiSvils<br />
aranairad ar sWirdeboda<br />
premieris posti, isedac<br />
premieri iyo, rasac<br />
undoda, imas akeTebda.<br />
dRes ki is iZulebulia televiziaSi<br />
iaros. misi<br />
pirvelive gamosvla parlamentSi<br />
iyo imis dasturi,<br />
rom es adamiani aris<br />
sruli uvici, werakiTxvis<br />
ucodinari.<br />
axalaia Seecdeba gaaZlieros<br />
Tavisi xalxi Sss-Si. mar-<br />
Talia, is prezidentis ndobiT<br />
sargeblobs, magram damoukidebel<br />
TamaSs ver iTamaSebs. is<br />
gadabmulia saakaSvilTan calsaxad<br />
da mxolod saakaSvilTan<br />
erTad warmoudgenia Tavisi arseboba<br />
saerTod; politikaSi<br />
magas araferi esaqmeba, radgan<br />
ar icis, ar aris politikosi.<br />
...maisis da ivnisis aqciebma<br />
aCvena, rom xalxs vanosi aRar<br />
eSinia, amitom saakaSvilma<br />
ifiqra, ufro cofian ZaRls<br />
moviyvano. yvelam icis, rom axalaia<br />
sisxlismsmelia, igi sakuTari xeliT<br />
awamebda patimrebs. es aris saakaSvilis<br />
pirdapiri mesiji xalxisadmi,<br />
vano xom iyo sastiki, axla<br />
sastiki ki ara, pirdapir kaciWamia<br />
movida da gatokeba ar gabedoTo.<br />
merabiSvilis premierad daniSvna<br />
imis maniSnebelia, rom mmarTvel<br />
gundSi didi dapirispirebaa.<br />
maT ician, rom saakaSvili<br />
politikuri gvamia, magram<br />
nacmoZraobas sadaveebis xelidan<br />
gaSveba namdvilad ar<br />
unda.<br />
kaxi kalaZe: minda madloba<br />
gadavuxado saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobas, romelmac<br />
miuxedavad amdeni daSinebisa,<br />
mainc moaxerxa „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis“ aqciebze mosvla.<br />
gamgeblebi, rwmunebulebi<br />
dadian soflebSi da aSineben<br />
xalxs, zogs daxmarebis moxsniT,<br />
zogs samsaxuridan<br />
gaSvebiT. aseTi xalxis 99%<br />
ambobs, rom SeiZleba axla<br />
ver gamovideT aqciaze,<br />
magram oqtomberSi Cvens azrs davafiqsirebT.<br />
sainformacio Seteva Cemze, mgoni<br />
Cacxra, ar vici, awi ras damabraleben.<br />
me arasodes mqonia saqme qurdul<br />
samyarosTan. amis damadasturebeli<br />
aranairi faqti ar arsebobs,<br />
Cemi diskreditaciis mcdeloba<br />
gamowveuli iyo Cemi bolo gancxadebebiT,<br />
politikaSi mosvlis surviliT<br />
da biZina ivaniSvilis gundSi<br />
yofniT. ar miyvars sakuTar Tavze<br />
laparaki, magram ukan moxedvis namdvilad<br />
ar mrcxvenia, CemTvis morali,<br />
adamianoba, kacoba, yvelaferze<br />
maRla dgas.<br />
miSa namdvilad ar minaxavs milanSi,<br />
batonma biZinam ubralod<br />
ixumra. arc is fotoebi gadamiRia.<br />
es adamiani fsiqologiurad gauwonasworebelia.<br />
man Camoayaliba policiuri<br />
saxelmwifo. ufro sworad<br />
zonder-policia. Torem Tavad policia<br />
saxelmwifosTvis marTlac<br />
mniSvnelovania. ar minda Seuracxyofa<br />
mivayeno maT, vinc policiis<br />
mundirs atarebs, magram arian zonder-policielebi,<br />
romlebic ukanono<br />
davalebebs asruleben.<br />
ar vici, ra davarqva merabiSvilispremier-ministrad<br />
daniSvnas - dawinaureba<br />
Tu daqveiTeba.<br />
axalaias daniSvniT ki miviRebT<br />
zonder-policias.<br />
Tumca es cvlilebebi da<br />
gadaadgilebebi namdvilad<br />
ver SeaCerebs imas,<br />
rac dawyebulia. minda<br />
vuTxra saqarTvelos mosaxleobas,<br />
rom Cven aucileblad<br />
vizeimebT da er-<br />
Tad avixdenT „qarTul<br />
ocnebas“.<br />
politikaSi mosvlamdec, roca<br />
me Cemi pozicia davafiqsire Tundac<br />
demesTan dakavSirebiT, Cemi nacnobebi<br />
nacmoZraobidan uceb gaifantnen.<br />
kargad mesmis maTi. Cveulebriv mosaxleobasac<br />
eSinia opozicionereb-<br />
Tan Sexvedra, eSiniaT, ar dainaxos<br />
ubnis rwmunebelma Tu gamgebelma.<br />
giorgi rom daiWires, me damikav-<br />
Sirda erT-erT maRalCinosani da<br />
miTxra, advokatebma kargad ician,<br />
ra unda gakeTdes, rom giorgi gareT<br />
iyoso. es imas niSnavda, rom am adamians<br />
unda eRiarebina danaSauli da<br />
Semdgariyo saproceso garigeba.<br />
magram deme sastik uarze iyo. vici,<br />
ramdenad Znelia iq yofna, magram<br />
ufro Znelia aRiaro is, rac ar Cagidenia.<br />
ra Tqma unda, me misaubria Cvens<br />
TanagundelebTan, biWebi darwmunebuli<br />
arian giorgis udanaSaulobaSi,<br />
magram valdebuls veravis gavxdi,<br />
xmamaRla daafiqsiros Tavisi azri.<br />
dRes qveyanaSi yvelaferi politizirebulia.<br />
rodesac nakrebs vtovebdi,<br />
is werili, romelic federaci-<br />
am gamoaqveyna, rogor fiqrobT, federaciis<br />
prezidentis dawerilia?!<br />
es iyo zemodan motanili werili da<br />
federacias daavales, xeli moeweraT.<br />
Semdegi aqcia iqneba gorSi. kargad<br />
vici, ra ganwyobaa soflebSi,<br />
raionebSi. Tavad rom ar vxedavde<br />
ra gaWirvebaSi cxovrobs xalxi, SeiZleba<br />
sxvisi naambobi arc damejerebina.<br />
soflebSi faqtiurad axalgazrda<br />
aRaraa darCenili da es bunebriviacaa.<br />
radgan iq aranairi perspeqtiva<br />
araa muSaobisTvis. dRiTi<br />
dRe izrdeba emigrantTa ricxvi.<br />
ojaxebi ingreva. oTxi weli rom qali<br />
ojaxidan iqneba wasuli, is ojaxi<br />
dangreulia, aba ra aris?!<br />
moamzada xaTuna Toduam<br />
xalxis azriT<br />
saakaSvilma ukve aRar icis, ra qnas<br />
da, faqtobrivad, axla Tavs imSvidebs<br />
am CanacvlebebiT; xan vano Secvlis vi-<br />
Racas, xan _ baCo da hgonia, rom amiT<br />
rames miaRwevs, magram wasulia amaTi saqme. er-<br />
Ti ki ara, aTi vano rom daniSnon im Tanamdebobaze,<br />
ganwirulia es xalxi sabolood..<br />
dedamiwas or TveSi ucxoplanetelebi<br />
Semoesevian, vikiliksi da Tu saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriaze dajdnen, mogelaZe<br />
“qarTul ocnebasTan” TvalTmaqcur garigebaSi<br />
dadebs brals da iseT jarimas gamouwers,<br />
rom ukan dasabruneblad benzinis fuli<br />
aRar darCebaT da SimSiliT amowydebian! :)))))<br />
vaime utiaSvili-kvesitaZisa Camoaanalitikures?<br />
me mgoni vano biZinasTan gadmosasvlelad<br />
an misTvis xelisuflebis gadasacemad<br />
emzadeba :)))<br />
Cemi uWkuo gamoTvliT, vidre Cemi Temo<br />
saSualo skolas daamTavrebs, bare<br />
7 ganaTlebis ministri eyoleba gamocvlili...<br />
ise, lamazi cifria 7.:)))<br />
TviT utifrobis etaloni bumberazi<br />
miSistebic ki ver ”apraveben” am populizms...benduqiZe<br />
daasamares am programiT<br />
:))) legendarulma miSmadidebulebma<br />
aRiares, rom es mxolod dapirebaa winasaarCevno,<br />
ararealuri da ivaniSvilis sapasuxod<br />
SeTiTxnili.<br />
ratomRac vfiqrob, rom giga bokeria<br />
miSas sawinaaRmdegod da biZinaze da<br />
“qarTul ocnebaze” muSaobs... aba rogor<br />
davijero, rom ase uxmod daTanxmda<br />
baCo axalaias Sss ministrad daniSvnas? es<br />
xom miSas gardauval marcxsa da dasamarebas<br />
niSnavs? nuTu gigas, romelsac ukidegano ambiciebi<br />
awuxebs, moswons vanos mier biZinas dapirebebis<br />
erTi-erTSi gameoreba da Tanac gaoTxmagebul<br />
variantSi? me mgoni, cixe Signidan<br />
ireva, Cveni daxmarebis gareSe :))) yoCaR giga,<br />
midi, dagvexmare ... es Tu asea, marTla Wkviani<br />
kaci yofilxar :)))<br />
aranairi konkretika, ubralod alalad<br />
mainteresebs, ratomaa qarTuli ocnebis<br />
gaxmovanebuli 1 mlrd. soflis meurneobaSi<br />
Cadeba populizmi da nac.<br />
moZr. 4 mlrd. realoba?<br />
SemogvierTdi<br />
facebook-ze<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~<br />
7
8 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
gvesaubreba koalicia `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ politikuri sabWos<br />
wevri aleqsi petriaSvili<br />
_ batono aleqsi, evroparlamentSi<br />
gamarTul debatebs piradad<br />
eswrebodiT. ro<strong>gori</strong>a Tqveni<br />
TvaliT danaxuli realoba?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, unda aRiniSnos,<br />
rom es debatebi Cveni qveynis-<br />
Tvis Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo. mis<br />
mniSvnelovnebas is faqtic amZafrebs,<br />
rom saqarTvelos sakiTxi<br />
egviptis da siriis sakiTxebTan<br />
erTad ganixiles. Cveni _ `Tavisufali<br />
demokratebisa~ da `respublikelebis~<br />
miwveva evropis liberal-demokratiuli<br />
aliansis mier<br />
moxda. am debatebis gamarTvas nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba _ evropis<br />
saxalxo partia seriozul winaaRmdegobas<br />
uwevda. raoden gasakviric<br />
ar unda iyos, komunistebic<br />
am debatebis winaaRmdegni iyvnen<br />
da mxars mixeil saakaSvilis pozicias<br />
uWerdnen. vTvli, rom evroparlamentSi<br />
gamarTuli debatebi<br />
saqarTvelos da ara `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ an `nac. moZraobis~<br />
gamarjveba iyo. saqarTvelo seriozuli<br />
yuradRebis centrSi moeqca.<br />
evrokavSiris vice-prezidentis<br />
eStonis saxeliT gakeTebuli gancxadeba<br />
mkafiod metyvelebs imaze,<br />
rom saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebi<br />
_ oponentebis politikuri<br />
devna da a.S. saerTaSoriso TanamegobrobisTvis<br />
miuRebelia.<br />
minda aRvniSno, xelisufleba<br />
saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis<br />
sferoSic Tavisi politikuri Zalis<br />
interesebis gatarebas cdilobs<br />
da Sedegad saelCoebis, misiebis<br />
xelmZRvanelebi dakavebulni<br />
arian ara qveynis imijze, ke-<br />
TildReobaze zrunviT, aramed er-<br />
Ti politikuri Zalis _`nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis~ kargad warmoCinebiT<br />
da meoris _ `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
dakninebiT, SeuracxyofiT.<br />
magram es realurad ar muSaobs.<br />
evroparlamentSi pirdapir gaJ-<br />
Rerda, rom dRes aravis aqvs ufleba<br />
konkretuli politikuri Zalis<br />
finansur SesaZleblobebs, mis<br />
saqmianobas administraciuli resursiT<br />
da politikuri devniT xeli<br />
SeuSalos. am mowodebebiT gamovidnen<br />
`mwvaneebi~, `social-demokratebi~.<br />
momaval kviras evropis<br />
saxalxo partiis iniciativiT<br />
evrokavSiris warmomadgenelTa vizitia<br />
dagegmili.<br />
_ debatebisas, TiTqmis yvela<br />
gamomsvlelma, ivaniSvilis rusul<br />
fulze gaakeTa aqcenti.<br />
_ samwuxarod, evroparlamentarebi<br />
informacias calmxrivad<br />
iReben. arada, roca saubari ruseTzea,<br />
yvelam viciT, rom saakaSvilma<br />
ekonomikis didi nawili<br />
swored maT misca. `raoesi~ SeiZleba<br />
imave rangSi aviyvanoT, rogorc<br />
`gazpromi~. igi imave rangis<br />
kremlis mier kontrolirebadi<br />
kompaniaa. aseve, `bilaini~, `vi-Tibi~<br />
banki. `Tbilisis wyali~ Tavidan<br />
bolomde rusuli kompaniis<br />
kuTvnilebaa da igi gansazRvravs<br />
vTvli, rom evroparlamentSi<br />
gamarTuli debatebi<br />
saqarTvelos gamarjveba iyo<br />
Cvens gadasaxadebsac, sakuTar<br />
mogebasac da Sesabamisad, xelisuflebiswarmomadgenlebis<br />
mogebasac. ruseTis mimar-<br />
TulebiT Zalian aqtiurad<br />
muSaobs yofili Tavdacvis<br />
ministri daviT kezeraSvili,<br />
romelic moskovis xSiri<br />
stumaria. mas albaT, ukve gadauara<br />
im gancdebma, guliswyromam<br />
2008 wlis omis period-<br />
Si da Semdgom rom hqonda. evroparlamentarebs,<br />
vinc amiT apelirebdnen,<br />
vuTxariT ra ganacxada<br />
biZina ivaniSvilma, rom mas, praqtikulad,<br />
ruseTSi biznesi aRar<br />
gaaCnia. arian adamianebi, visac<br />
`nac.moZraobis~ xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebTan raRac valdebulebebi<br />
aqvT da rogorc Cans,<br />
maT bolomde uerTguleben. magram<br />
mTavari, es araa. mTavaria qar-<br />
Tveli xalxis neba. veraviTari garedan<br />
moxdenili zewola, gancxadeba<br />
Tu gzavnili da saerTod veraferi<br />
Secvlis qarTveli xalxis<br />
nebas. win veravin aRudgeba da veravin<br />
moaxerxebs qarTveli xalxis<br />
neba saTavisod moixmaros.<br />
mniSvnelovania isic, rom evroparlamentSi,<br />
kuluarul saubrebSi,<br />
saqarTveloSi bolos ganxorcielebulma<br />
sakadro cvlilebebma didi<br />
interesi gamoiwvia. aravisTvis<br />
ucxo, siaxle ar aris ras warmoadgens<br />
axalaiebis klani, ubralod,<br />
maT ainteresebdaT, ras niSnavda<br />
es gadaadgileba _ erTi konkretuli<br />
Zalis gaZlierebas Tu<br />
Sida politikur TamaSebs. Tundac<br />
Cvens mimarT skeptikurad ganwyobil<br />
evroparlamentarebSic ki imis<br />
xseneba, rom erTi Zma Sss-s ministria,<br />
meore _ Tavdacvis ministris<br />
moadgile da mama _ samegrelo-zemo<br />
svaneTis samxareo prokurori,<br />
es maT saxeze Tavdapirvelad<br />
Rimils, mere ki gaognebas, gaocebas<br />
iwvevda. amasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
Zalian didi SeSfoTeba gamoxata<br />
evrokomisarma _ fulem. man<br />
aseve, principulad, xazgasmiT aRniSna,<br />
rom politikuri zewolebi,<br />
dapatimrebebi, provokaciebi, mere-<br />
Tis incidentis msgavsi movlenebi,<br />
dauSvebelia. evropelebi amiT SeSfoTebulni<br />
arian da am faqtebs<br />
sagangaSod miiCneven.<br />
_ mTavari albaT, mainc is iyo,<br />
rom evroparlamentarebi ise saubrobdnen,<br />
rogorc `nac. moZraoba~.<br />
ori wyaro axseneT, vinc maT informacia<br />
miawoda, magram Tqven iq<br />
imyofebodiT da ra informacia miawodeT<br />
Tavad maT?<br />
_ Cven mudmivad vagzavniT informaciebs.<br />
isini saqmis kursSi<br />
CavayeneT im ukanono, danaSaulebriv<br />
qmedebasTan dakavSirebiT, rasac<br />
xelisufleba ukanasknel periodSi<br />
gansakuTrebiT aqtiurad<br />
axorcielebs _ Zaladobas aqtivistebis<br />
da kerZo seqtoris mimarT.<br />
amas viTom kanonis saxeliT<br />
akeTebs. evropuli qveynis ver-<br />
cerT kanonSi amis msgavss verafers<br />
naxavT. aviRoT meore faqti<br />
_ saRamos legaluri dokumentebis<br />
700 gverdi mogvitanes da meore<br />
diliT, 10 saaTze sasamarTloSi<br />
dagvibares. saqme arc meti,<br />
arc naklebi, <strong>15</strong>0 milions exeba.<br />
evroparlamentarebma gviTxres _<br />
bunebrivia, mosamarTle sul mcire<br />
erTTvian pauzas iRebs am SemTxvevaSio.<br />
rom gaiges 11 saaTze gadawyvetileba<br />
ukve gamotanili<br />
iyo, gaogdnen. es absurdia _ ase<br />
Seafasa es qmedeba evroparlamentis<br />
erT-erTma wevrma, romelic<br />
sxvaTaSoris `nac. moZraobis~<br />
mxardamWeri banakidanaa. aseve Cveni<br />
prioritetebis ganmsazRvreli<br />
dokumenti mivawodeT. maT kargad<br />
ician, rom ivaniSvilis mier gaJ-<br />
Rerebuli iniciativebi haerSi nasroli<br />
sityvebi araa. iq vixileT<br />
bevri dezinformacia. sakuTari<br />
TvaliT vixileT gamonaTqvamebis<br />
kompilacia. sabWoTa kavSiris<br />
droindeli broSurebi iyo momzadebuli.<br />
mova dro da vitautas<br />
landsbergiss Zalian Sercxveba<br />
Tavisi sityvebis TiTqos `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ rigebSi nacisturi,<br />
faSisturi ganwyobis politikosebi<br />
arian da biZina ivaniSvili amgvari<br />
koaliciis lideria. mas rac<br />
daubeWdes da miawodes, is waikiTxa.<br />
rac man Tqva, es rom simar-<br />
Tle iyos, garwmunebT axla Tqven-<br />
Tan namdvilad veRar visaubrebdi,<br />
ufro, albaT, haagis tribunalis<br />
CarCoebSi mogviwevda amis ganxilva.<br />
_ ra reagireba mohyva evrokav-<br />
SirSi Tqvens mier miwodebul informaciebs,<br />
razec axla isaubreT.<br />
samwuxarod, mosaxleobam mxolod<br />
cali mxare _ deputatebis mxridan<br />
ivaniSvilis lanZRva moismina<br />
da is rom TiTqos mosawvevebs<br />
arigebdiT, riTac xalxis televizorebiT<br />
da sxva teqnikiT mosyidva<br />
xdeboda. riT gaaqarwyleT es<br />
mosazrebani?<br />
_ Cven, maTTan erTad sityvasityviT<br />
ganvixileT, Tu ra weria<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ mosawvevze. xe-<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
lisuflebis mxardamWeri erT-er-<br />
Ti evroparlamentari gvekiTxeboda<br />
_ rogor, am mosawvevze ar weria,<br />
rom 1000 laris farglebSi<br />
mosaxleobas ocnebas usrulebTo.<br />
es ukve CvenTvisac Rimilis momgvreli<br />
iyo. sainteresoa, rom prescentrSi,<br />
evroparlamentarebis misaReb<br />
oTaxebSi Cveni mosawvevebi<br />
aqtiurad vrceldeboda.<br />
_ es Tu auxseniT, mainc ratom<br />
gakeTda mosyidvaze miniSnebebi,<br />
xom gaiges, rom mosawvevze msgavsi<br />
araferi ewera?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, avuxseniT, magram<br />
mosawvevi qarTul enazea, Cven<br />
mas frangul da inglisur enaze<br />
ar vbeWdavT. pirdapir unda iTqvas,<br />
rom evroparlamentSi yvela<br />
politikuri Zalis mxridan Zalian<br />
swori, jansaRi Sefaseba gakeTda.<br />
maT ar uTqvamT, rom ra kargia<br />
ivaniSvili rom modis `qarTul<br />
ocnebasTan~ erTado, magram iTqva,<br />
rom gamoCnda adamiani, romlis<br />
garSemo dRes arsebuli xelisuflebis<br />
sapiwoned yvelaze Zlieri<br />
politikuri alternativa gaerTianda.<br />
aseve aRiniSna, xelisufleba<br />
barierebs uqmnis piradad biZina<br />
ivaniSvils, raTa man ver awarmoos<br />
Tavisi politikuri saqmianoba,<br />
rac aqtivistebis devnaSi, dapa-<br />
timrebaSi, provocirebebSi, TefSebis<br />
dayadaRebaSi da a.S. gamoixateba.<br />
Cven vxvdebodiT evrokavSiris<br />
umaRlesi komisiis warmomadgenlebs<br />
da am adamianebis zedmiwevniTma<br />
codnam saqarTveloSi arsebuli<br />
viTarebis Sesaxeb sasiamovnod<br />
gamaoca. iq iyvnen konkretuli<br />
adamianebi, vinc saqarTveloze<br />
pasuxismgebelni arian da ma-<br />
Sinve reagireben aq momxdar faqtebze.<br />
informirebuloba Zalian<br />
maRali donisaa. samwuxaroa, rom<br />
es ar gamoCnda saxelisuflebo<br />
televiziebis wyalobiT, magram aq<br />
CavatareT konferenciebi da konkretuli<br />
adamianebi tyuilis tira-<br />
JirebaSi vamxileT.<br />
_ cnobilia, rom im periodSi,<br />
roca saerTaSoriso organizaciebi<br />
Cvens arCevnebs akvirdebodnen, gayalbebis<br />
faqtebi gacilebiT meti<br />
iyo, vidre sxva SemTxvevebSi. Tanac<br />
im fonze, roca xelisufleba<br />
ukan araferze ixevs dawyebuli<br />
ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobis armini-<br />
WebiT, qonebis dayadaRebiT, jarimebiT<br />
damTavrebuli, ra gaZlevT<br />
aseTi optimizmis safuZvels, Tundac<br />
im kuTxiT, rom arCevnebamde<br />
mivaRwevT?<br />
_ Zalian kargi SekiTxvaa. xelisufleba,<br />
rogorc Cans, yvelafers<br />
akeTebs imisaTvis, raTa ar-<br />
Cevnebamde maqsimalurad dagvasus-<br />
tos. rac ar gvklavs, is gvaZlierebs.<br />
darwmunebuli var, xelisuflebis<br />
yvela mcdeloba warumatebeli<br />
iqneba da kraxiT dasruldeba,<br />
magram Tqven Zalian legitimuri<br />
SekiTxva dasviT. koaliciis saxeliT<br />
SemiZlia giTxraT _ swored<br />
Cveni svla arCevnebis dRisken<br />
ganapirobebs xelisuflebis panikur,<br />
isteriul qmedebebs. arCevnebis<br />
dRes, rodesac yvelaze mTavari<br />
arbitris _ qarTveli xalxis<br />
winaSe davdgebiT, darwmunebuli<br />
var eri swor arCevans gaakeTebs.<br />
xelisuflebam icis, rom dRes saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobaSi arCevanis<br />
gakeTebis arnaxuli mzaobaa.<br />
amitom, bunebrivia, xelisufleba<br />
cdilobs `qarTuli ocneba~ sxva<br />
saTamaSo moedanze gadaiyvanos.<br />
Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT minda _<br />
Sevatyobino mas _ yvela maTi<br />
mcdeloba warumatebeli iqneba,<br />
arCevnebis gzidan veravin gadagvaxvevinebs<br />
da yvelafers logikur<br />
dasasrulamde miviyvanT.<br />
_ batono aleqsi, mainc minda<br />
gkiTxoT, evroparlamentSi vizitisas<br />
ra STabeWdileba dagrCaT,<br />
evrokavSiri uWers mxars qarTvel<br />
xalxs?<br />
_ saqarTvelos saxelisuflebo<br />
televiziebis mier Seqmnilma<br />
propagandam iseTi suraTi daxata,<br />
TiTqos evroparlamentarebi mwkrivSi<br />
idgnen da evroparlamenti<br />
im dRes mets arafers akeTebda<br />
garda imisa, rom petriaSvils, xidaSels,<br />
usufaSvils gadauares da<br />
talaxSi agoravebdnen. realoba<br />
aseTi ar yofila. nebismier Jurnalists<br />
SeuZlia sruli Canaweri<br />
amoiRos da naxos. realoba aseTia<br />
_ evrokavSiri SeSfoTebulia<br />
dRes arsebuli mdgomareobiT, xelisuflebas<br />
administraciuli<br />
resursis gamoyenebisa da politikur<br />
saqmianobaSi Carevisgan Tavis<br />
aridebas mouwodebs. ZalTa balansi<br />
aseTi iyo, 12 gamomsvlelidan<br />
_ 5 gamovida ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg,<br />
danarCenebi saqarTvelos sasargeblod<br />
saqmianad saubrobdnen.<br />
es debatebi evroparlamentSi zustad<br />
imitom gaimarTa, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
movlenebi aranormalurad<br />
viTardeba, temperatura aranormalurad<br />
izrdeba.<br />
_ xelisuflebas ar undoda am<br />
debatebis gamarTva, Tumca Sedegi<br />
mosaxleobas ise miawodes, rogorc<br />
Tavad surdaT. rogor fiqrobT,<br />
amis mere kidev ufro xom<br />
ar `aiwyvets~ xelisufleba?<br />
_ axla scenaze axalaiebis<br />
performansis droa. amaze meti<br />
`awyveta~ warmoudgenelia. amas,<br />
erTaderTi SeiZleba daematos politikuri<br />
liderebis, aqtivistebis<br />
masiuri daWerebi, dapatimrebebi.<br />
angariSebi ukve daayadaRes.<br />
albaT, Seecdebian cocxali adamianebic<br />
`daayadaRon~, Tumca qarTvelma<br />
xalxma xelisuflebas aCvena,<br />
rac ar unda Zaladoba ixmaros,<br />
yadaRa daados koaliciaSi<br />
Semaval partiebs, am process ve-<br />
Raraferi SeaCerebs, es Seuqcevadi<br />
procesia. soflebSi saubari<br />
midis ara qveynis prioritetebze,<br />
aramed gadarCenaze, SimSilis da<br />
wyurvilis mokvlaze. xelisufleba<br />
spekuliantobs, roca iZaxis,<br />
rom maTTvis 1000 larian vauCers<br />
daarigebs. amixsnas vinmem aris Tu<br />
ara es amomrCevlis mosyidva?!<br />
adamianebi arCevans TviTon gaake-<br />
Teben.<br />
Tamar SveliZe
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
gvesauubrreba advokati, moZrraoba<br />
`errovnuulebis~ errT-eerrTi<br />
damffuuZnebeli Salva xaWapuriZe<br />
_ batono Salva, axlaxan evroparlamentis<br />
sxdomaze saqarTvelos<br />
sakiTxebs mwvave debatebi<br />
mohyva. rogor SeafasebT imas,<br />
rac moxda strasburgSi?<br />
_ meeWveba, zustad gadmoeca<br />
saxelisuflebo televiziebs is,<br />
rac moxda strasburgSi. magram<br />
saqme isaa, rom, rodesac evroparlamentis<br />
sxdomaze evrosab-<br />
Wos wevri qveynis saqme msjelobis<br />
sagani xdeba, es araa ubralo<br />
SemTxveva. sxvaTa Soris, erTma<br />
deputatma kidevac Tqva _ ra<br />
xdeba, ratom vixilavT saqarTvelos<br />
sakiTxso. sakiTxavi marTlac<br />
iyo, radgan, rogorc Cans,<br />
qveyanaSi iseTi mniSvnelovani ram<br />
xdeba, rac 2008 wlis agvistos<br />
movlenebze ufro mniSvnelovania.<br />
2008 wlis sakiTxi evroparlaments<br />
ar ganuxilavs.<br />
evrosabWos yvela deputats<br />
haagis sarCeli saTiTaod yvelas<br />
aqvs diskebze da SesaniSnavad<br />
ician, vinc aris saakaSvili, amitom,<br />
sainteresoa, Tu vin iyo iq<br />
mivlenili ivaniSvilis mxridan,<br />
aseTi saqme rom gaakeTa.<br />
ise, ki, minda giTxraT, rom<br />
eseni arian korumpirebuli moxeleebi,<br />
romlebic unda mogaxsenoT,<br />
rom xSirad sunamoebzec ki<br />
iyidebian. amitom am dReebSi moZraoba<br />
`erovnulebi~ vapirebT<br />
mivmarToT `evroparlaments~,<br />
rom yvelaze cudi, rac iq moxda,<br />
amaze gakeTdes reagireba. Cven<br />
eWvqveS vayenebT am deputatebis<br />
korumpirebulebis sakiTxs.<br />
_ ra iyo yvelaze cudi, rac<br />
iq moxda?<br />
_ yvelas gvaxsovs e.w. `modelirebuli<br />
qronika~, rusuli<br />
tankebi da a.S. mere biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
gamoCena da Zaxili _`gazpromis~<br />
fuli, `gazpromis~ fulio.<br />
amas mxolod WkuanaRrZobi<br />
saakaSvili ki ar gahyviroda, evroparlamentis<br />
deputatebmac gaimeores,<br />
anu gamzadda niadagi<br />
Semdegi qmedebebisTvis.<br />
_ kerZod?<br />
_ nacionalur moZraobas aqvs<br />
sampunqtiani samoqmedo gegma da<br />
amas sruli pasuxismgeblobiT,<br />
sando wyaroebze dayrdnobiT<br />
vambob. es gegma gulisxmobs opoziciis<br />
da xalxis damarcxebas.<br />
gegmis I punqti iTvaliswinebs,<br />
ramenairad moagrovon xmebis <strong>15</strong>-<br />
20 procentiT gaayalbon 60<br />
procenti. oRond ise ki ara,<br />
damkvirvebelma an vinmem SeniSnos,<br />
SemuSavebulia axali teqnologiebi,<br />
damkvirvebelic rom<br />
daadges Tavze, mainc ver SeniSnavs,<br />
ra gaakeTes _ aqvT specialuri<br />
fanqrebi, romelsac<br />
frCxilSi imagreben, gadaxazaven<br />
biuletens, gaafuWeben, an mosaxleobis<br />
aRweris dros amateben<br />
amomrCevlis raodenobas da rac<br />
metia amomrCevlis raodenoba,<br />
metia gayalbebis SesaZlebloba<br />
da a.S.<br />
mere Tu opozicia daiwyebs<br />
protests gayalbebasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
amoqmedebas daiwyeben nacmoZraobis<br />
sateliti partiebi,<br />
romlebic ganacxadeben, rom ar-<br />
Cevnebi Catarda patiosnad, xolo<br />
isini, vinc protests gamoxataven,<br />
arian rusuli Zala da maT<br />
unda ufrTxildes xalxi. amitomac<br />
Sevlen parlamentSi da rogorc<br />
ki Sevlen, maSinve xdeba<br />
opoziciis liderebis dauyovnebliv<br />
dapatimreba. dasapatimrebelTa<br />
specialuri sia ukve aris<br />
Sedgenili da iq Cemi gvaric<br />
aris moxseniebuli.<br />
evroparlamentis sxdomis<br />
Semdeg SefasebebSi nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam ganacxada, rom `iwyeba<br />
gadamwyveti brZola saqarTvelosTvis~<br />
_ es maTi sityvebia da<br />
Tu gadamwyvet brZolazea sauba-<br />
ri, iq Tof-iaraRzec aris laparaki<br />
da bombic da zarbazanic<br />
aris nagulisxmevi.<br />
batonebo, nacionalurma moZraobam<br />
omi gamoucxada qarTvel<br />
xalxs da uTxra: an Cven viqnebiT,<br />
an sakuTar sisxlSi gabanavebTo.<br />
ruseTis agentura xarT<br />
da agentura unda gaviyvanoT da<br />
davxvritoTo. es ganacxades evroparlamentis<br />
Sefasebebis mosmenis<br />
Semdeg da Tu marTla ase<br />
moxda, pasuxismgebloba evroparlamentsac<br />
daekisreba amaSi.<br />
_ batono Salva, aSS-is elCma<br />
e.w. mwvane Suqi rom aunTo xelisuflebas<br />
xalxis dasarbevad,<br />
amaze pasuxismgebloba masac ar<br />
auRia, is ki ara, amas winaT<br />
saarCevno garemoc ki<br />
moiwona saqarTveloSi.<br />
_ ibadeba logikuri<br />
kiTxva: ras verCiT amerikis<br />
elCs, maSin, roca arc<br />
erT arasamTavrobo organizacias<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
gangaSi ar autexavs imaze,<br />
rom saarCevno garemo saqarTveloSi<br />
uvargisia.<br />
magram, radgan midixar<br />
arCevnebze, niSnavs, rom<br />
Tanxmdebi xelisuflebas<br />
im TamaSSi, rasac gTava-<br />
zobs. aSS-mac ganacxada, rom Tuki<br />
mniSvnelovani pretenziebi ar<br />
gaqvT, arCevnebi, wesiT, normalurad<br />
unda Catardeso. amerikis<br />
elCma rac Tqva, es iyo diplomatiuri<br />
gancxadeba. sinamdvileSi<br />
ki igulisxma: ar gindaT saakaSvili?<br />
magram Tqven masze uaresebi<br />
xarT, radgan mihyvebiT im TamaSSi,<br />
rasac TviTon gTavazobT.<br />
dRes mTavaria didi saxalxo er-<br />
Tobis Camoyalibeba.<br />
Cven am winadadebiT erTxel<br />
SevxvdiT biZina ivaniSvils da<br />
mas Semdeg Sexvedra veRar movaxerxeT.<br />
rogorc Cans, garkveuli<br />
Zalebi xels uSlian Cvens daaxloebas.<br />
_`erovnulebi~ arCevnebSi monawileobas<br />
apirebT?<br />
_ es jer ar gadagviwyvetia,<br />
magram uaxloes erT-or kviraSi<br />
amas gadavwyvetT. Tu ver moxerxda<br />
biZina ivaniSvilTan<br />
Sexvedra da kvlavac<br />
dagvblokes, Cven TviTon<br />
daviwyebT regionebSi<br />
ofisebis gaxsnas da davasaxelebT<br />
Cvens maJoritar<br />
deputatebs.<br />
magram, faqtobrivad,<br />
gamarjveba SeuZlebeli<br />
iqneba, Tu eri ar gahyva<br />
erT formulas: iyavi<br />
koaliciaSi visTanac<br />
ginda, magram SevqmnaT<br />
saxalxo erToba.<br />
politikosebi avcdiT<br />
xalxis moTxovnebs.<br />
xalxi ar gvTxovs daiyaviTo.<br />
_ amas gulisxmobda `saxalxo<br />
krebac~.<br />
_ ho, magram, maSin Tu ver<br />
moaxerxe da rom ver moaxerxe,<br />
anu uvargisebi rom viyaviT, yovelTvis<br />
ase xom ar unda gagr-<br />
Zeldes?! yvela erTad unda davdgeT,<br />
Torem davmarcxdebiT, sastikad<br />
davmarcxdebiT am arCevneb-<br />
Si. xalxma unda aiRos iniciativa,<br />
Torem eseni ganaxorcieleben<br />
gegmas, romelic ruseTis agenturam<br />
dadga saqarTvelosTvis.<br />
rogorc batonma biZinam brZana,<br />
erT muStad unda Seikras saqarTvelo.<br />
_ Tqven ganacxadeT, rom ari-<br />
an Zalebi, romlebic xels uSlian<br />
Tqvens dakavSirebas `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ koaliciasTan. vin arian<br />
es Zalebi, gaumxileT sazogadoebas.<br />
politikosebi mudam gvpirdebiT,<br />
rom raRacas ityviT. gadis<br />
dro da arafers ambobT.<br />
_ jer ver vityvi, radgan axla<br />
mimdinareobs Cvens xelT arsebuli<br />
informaciis gadamowmebis<br />
procesi. Cven jer vamowmebT,<br />
roca yvelaferi gairkveva, iciT,<br />
Cemi xasiaTi, aravis moveridebi,<br />
gamoval da vityvi vin vin aris.<br />
_ maSin is miTxariT, koali-<br />
ciasTanmiaxloebas ratom SeiZleba<br />
giSlidnen, ra<br />
mizezi SeiZleba iyos?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, es SeiZleba<br />
moxdes im mizniT, rom nel-nela<br />
biZina ivaniSvils amzadeben dasamarcxeblad.<br />
anu Cveni damarcxeba<br />
ki ar ainteresebT, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
winaaRmdeg moqmedeben. imitom,<br />
rom CvenTan kavSiri niSnavs<br />
samegrelos mogebas. samegrelos<br />
mogeba ki arCevnebis mogebas.<br />
_ Tqven laparakobdiT, axalaias<br />
xelSia samegreloo da<br />
axalaiebze meti Zala Tqven<br />
gaqvT?<br />
_ Cven ki ar gvaqvs Zala, zviad<br />
gamsaxurdias saxels aqvs Zala<br />
da masze metad im ideas aqvs<br />
Zala, rasac gamsaxurdia qadagebda.<br />
dResac amiT cocxlobs samegrelo.<br />
amitom, am ideasTan Camocileba<br />
niSnavs biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
gawirvas dasamarcxeblad.<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, zogierTi<br />
zviadisti ambobs: Zalian kargi,<br />
Tu ivaniSvili damarcxdeba, mainc<br />
rusuli, agresiuli Zalaao.<br />
_ jer erTi, es aris absurdi<br />
da meorec, tyuilad cdilobs<br />
ruseTi axal politikur Zalebs<br />
sakuTari iarliyi miakeros, amerika<br />
arafris didebiT ar daTmobs<br />
saqarTvelos. es ar moxdeba.<br />
zogma SeiZleba ar daijeros,<br />
magram axla vityvi pirvelad:<br />
gaxsovT partia `samarTlianobis~<br />
wevrebi rom daiWires? axlac<br />
cixeSia im xalxis nawili.<br />
dasapatimrebelTa sia, sxvaTa<br />
Soris, ruseTidan Camovida. isini<br />
ruseTis agentobis braldebiT<br />
daiWires. me maTi advokati viyavi<br />
da vici, es ambebi. viRaca ityvis,<br />
es ambavi moZvelda, mas Semdeg<br />
daWerebs daWerebi mohyvao,<br />
magram dRes rac xdeba `guSindelis~<br />
gagrZelebaa.<br />
_ anu oqtombramde daWerebi<br />
iqneba?<br />
_ oqtombramde Tu migviyvanes,<br />
kargi iqneba. Tu saakaSvilma<br />
Seatyo, rom arCevnebis saqme mis<br />
sasargeblod ar midis, arCevnebs<br />
aRar daucdis, seqtemberSi, savaraudod,<br />
represiebs daiwyebs.<br />
policieli merabiSvili _<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
premier-ministrad, policieli<br />
axalaia Sss-Si, policieli SaSkini,<br />
policieli dekanoiZe, policia<br />
marTavs am qveyanas. merabiSvilis<br />
daniSvniT, faqtobrivad,<br />
qveyanaSi ukve meramdened<br />
moxda saxelmwifo gadatrialeba<br />
da saTaveSi movidnen policielebi.<br />
icodeT, xelisufleba emzadeba<br />
sisxlisRvrisTvis da masobrivi<br />
represiebisTvis.<br />
_ merabiSvilis gadayvana premier-ministrad<br />
ras SeiZleba davukavSiroT,<br />
imas, rom aRar hqon-<br />
biZina ivaniSvilTan Cvens Sexvedras is<br />
Zalebi blokaven, romlebic ivaniSvils<br />
nel-nela amzadeben<br />
dasamarcxeblad<br />
SeiZleba, xelisuflebam daiwyos gegmis Semogdeba,<br />
TiTqos, miSa, vano an koduebi da sxvebi erTmaneTs<br />
upirispirdebian, rom amiT opozicia miityuon mosalaparakeblad.<br />
movuwodeb opozicias: ar gadadgas<br />
arc erTi nabiji amaTken.<br />
da saakaSvils merabiSvilis imedi?<br />
_ aq sul sxva ambavia. saakaSvili<br />
imdenadaa gaSavebuli,<br />
axla surT wina planze wamoswion<br />
piri, visi moRvaweobac ase<br />
Tu ise, warmatebuli iyo. es,<br />
cxadia, mTlad ase araa, magram<br />
mas Semdeg, rac biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
ganacxada, rom merabiSvili<br />
kargi menejeria, misma reitingma<br />
aiwia. faqti isaa, rom aSS-i amieridan,<br />
aRar dauSvebs imas, rom<br />
saakaSvili kvlav movides xelisuflebaSi.<br />
mizezi martivia, makiavelis<br />
principiT: daviSaloT<br />
imisTvis, rom xelaxla gaverTiandeT!<br />
axla nacionaluri moZraobis<br />
nawils CamoiSoreben, gacxrilaven<br />
Semadgenlobas, SeiZleba<br />
saxelic ki Seicvalon. 2013<br />
wlamde aq ambebi datrialdeba,<br />
jer Jurnalia, kinos mere vixilavT.<br />
vinc undoda da visac endoba,<br />
daiaxlova saakaSvilma, danarCeni<br />
misTvis aravin arafers<br />
ar warmoadgens. magram, SeiZleba,<br />
swored vano merabiSvilma gamoutanos<br />
magas ganaCeni.<br />
_ Tqven rogor fiqrobT, is<br />
Canaweri, rac gvaCvenes _ miSas<br />
da vanos familaruli dialogi,<br />
SesaZlebelia realobas Seesabamebodes<br />
da dadgmuli scena<br />
iyos?<br />
_ verafers getyviT amis Sesaxeb,<br />
magram,<br />
SeiZleba, xelisuflebam<br />
daiwyos gegmis<br />
Semogdeba, TiTqos, mi-<br />
Sa, vano an koduebi da<br />
sxvebi erTmaneTs upirispirdebian,<br />
rom amiT<br />
opozicia miityuon mosalaparakeblad.movuwodeb<br />
opozicias: ar<br />
gadadgas arc erTi nabiji<br />
amaTken.<br />
es iqneba didi uzneoba, radgan<br />
nacmoZraobas elodeba niurnbergis<br />
procesis magvari rame,<br />
albaT, quTaisSi da nu miiReben<br />
monawileobas am ambebSi.<br />
iranda<br />
kalandaZe<br />
9
10 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
vano merabiSvils gadarCenis<br />
erTaderTi gza aqvs _ unda<br />
gadadges da aqedan gaiqces...<br />
ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa mmwweerraallii<br />
merab SaTiriSvili::<br />
_ batono merab, xelisuflebam<br />
sazogadoebas sakadro<br />
cvlileba SesTavaza. ras fiqrobT<br />
merabiSvilis dawinaurebaze,<br />
razea es gaTvlili?<br />
_ merabiSvili, rogorc Sss<br />
ministri, dRemde saxelmwifo<br />
moxelis statuss inarCunebda.<br />
igi monawileobas iRebda `nac.<br />
moZraobis~ binZur gadawyvetilebebSi,<br />
magram es aSkarad ar<br />
Canda. igi ar aRiqmeboda, rogorc<br />
politikuri figura, saxelmwifo<br />
moxele iyo. saxelmwifo<br />
moxeles, romelic saku-<br />
Tar saqmes emsaxureba, ukan dasaxevi<br />
gza yovelTvis aqvs. magaliTad,<br />
adeiSvili sazogadoebisTvis,<br />
rogorc saxelmwifo<br />
moxele, ise aRiqmeba, mas ukan<br />
dasaxevi gza aqvs. Ase, rom miuxedavad<br />
imisa, merabiSvilis misamarTiT<br />
rigi braldebebi gaismoda,<br />
mas ukandasaxevi gza Sss<br />
ministrobis periodSi mainc<br />
hqonda. axla, misi win wamoweva<br />
mxolod da mxolod imas moaswavebs,<br />
rom merabiSvils yvela<br />
ukan dasaxevi gza gadauWres.<br />
igi aris im sibinZuris mamamTavari,<br />
rasac politikuri organizacia<br />
`nac. moZraobis~ saxiT<br />
sCadioda. kidev vis aqvs ukandasaxevi<br />
gza moWrili?! _ esenia<br />
axalaiebi. erTi Zma Sss-s saTaveSia,<br />
meore _ samxedro uwyebaSi<br />
SaSkinisac. yvela gza mouWres.<br />
saakaSvilma am xalxs<br />
uTxra _ Tqven ggoniaT, marto<br />
me momekiTxeba yvelaferi, Ti-<br />
Toeul Tqvengans Tqveni wili<br />
pasuxismgebloba gaqvT, yvelas<br />
ukandasaxevi gza moWrili gaqvT<br />
da yvelaze mkacri, araordinaluri<br />
qmedeba unda CaidinoTo.<br />
anu, prezidentis paTosi aseTia:<br />
_ Tu saWiroa, unda mokla, daiWiro,<br />
gaZarcvo.<br />
_ anu, merabiSvili am mo-<br />
Txovnas ver asrulebda da axalaia<br />
imisTvis daniSnes, rom am<br />
yvelaferze xelismomweria?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, merabiSvili<br />
sofelSi aRzrdili kacia da<br />
hyofnida imdeni goniereba, rom<br />
ukan dasaxev gzas yovelTvis<br />
itovebda. saakaSvilma axalaia<br />
Seaqo, Zalian kargi wmenda Caa-<br />
tare is adamianebi gayare,<br />
vinc orWofobdneno.<br />
raze orWofobdnen isini?<br />
_ `nacionalebis~<br />
skami gavaZlieroT Tu<br />
samSoblos vemsaxuroTo.<br />
misTvis eleqtorati mTavari<br />
ar aris. man Tqva,<br />
rom politikas vinc me-<br />
TamaSebiT, suleli xar-<br />
To, radgan mas hyavs ya-<br />
CaRebis banda, romelTa<br />
meSveobiTac sisxls daRvris,<br />
magram skams ar<br />
daTmobs. daakvirdiT, ro<strong>gori</strong><br />
intensivobiT axorcielebs<br />
xelisufleba<br />
ivaniSvilis ukanono dajarimebebs,<br />
xom SeiZleba<br />
erTxelac man es dajarimebebis<br />
cikli Sewyvitos da sisxlis<br />
samarTlis saqme aRZras. saqme<br />
swored aqeTken midis. xelisuflebas<br />
ukve aRar ainteresebs<br />
eleqtorati, misi azri.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, xelisuflebam<br />
am sakadro cvlilebebiT<br />
SesaZlo sisxlisRvras<br />
moawera xeli?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. saakaSvilma<br />
amiT gadaWriT Tqva, rom misi<br />
partia wasvlas arsad ar apirebs.<br />
tyuilia, vinc ambobs, rom<br />
TiTqos xelisuflebas mainc<br />
araferi gamouva. xelisuflebas<br />
marTlac araferi gamouva, mxolod<br />
im SemTxvevaSi, Tu arCevnebamde<br />
miRwevas SevZlebT. ukve<br />
250 aTasi adamiani gamovida<br />
ivaniSvilis aqciaze. darwmunebuli<br />
var, `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
mier dawyebuli saarCevno kampaniis<br />
periodSi milion naxevari<br />
amomrCeveli da `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
mxardamWeri gamova. am<br />
fonze, saarCevno yuTTan Tu<br />
`nacionalebis~ mogeba dafiqsirda,<br />
es xom absurdi iqneba.<br />
piradad me, vxedav tendencias,<br />
rom xelisufleba Zalismieri<br />
meTodebiT cdilobs samSoblo<br />
wamarTvas, faqtobrivad, politikuri<br />
niSniT pedagogiuri<br />
uflebebis ganxorcieleba amekrZala,<br />
Cemi mwerloba aravis<br />
unda, imitom rom, asparezi im<br />
mwerlebs eTmobaT, vinc maTi<br />
momxreebi arian. Cven ki samSoblos<br />
gvarTmeven, samaCablo wagvarTves,<br />
enas, sarwmunoebas<br />
gviryvnian, gvaiZuleben aq aRar<br />
dagvedgomebodes. aTasobiT qar-<br />
Tvels sakuTar qveyanaSi arTmeven<br />
samSoblos. rogor fiqrobT,<br />
es adamianebi ar gamovlen<br />
quCaSi?! Zalian mikvirs, ratom<br />
xarjavs opozicia amden energias<br />
aSS-Si, evropaSi gasvlebze.<br />
ar jobs, es energia sakuTar<br />
xalxze daixarjos?! roca xalxi<br />
saTanado simaRleze dadgeba<br />
da sakuTar samSoblos daicavs,<br />
banditebs qveynis sabolood xelSi<br />
Cagdebis uflebas ar miscems,<br />
maSin gveqneba Sansi, gadavrCeT.<br />
xelisufleba qvemo<br />
qarTlSi uamrav azerbaijanels<br />
moqalaqeobas aniWebs, raTa saarCevno<br />
xmebi ganimtkicon. aman<br />
SeiZleba gamoiwvios azerbaijanelebis<br />
mozRvaveba, romlebic<br />
ormagi moqalaqeobis wyalobiT<br />
xmas miscemen am xelisuflebas.<br />
aWaraSi 40 aTasi Turqis pasportizacia<br />
ratom xdeba, rogor<br />
ggoniaT? _ es saarCevno<br />
xmebzea gaTvlili. xelisufleba,<br />
romelic musulmanebze hyidis<br />
saarCevno xmebis gamo saqarTvelos,<br />
amas isev da isev<br />
qarTveli eri unda aRudges<br />
win. amitom meti Zalisxmevaa<br />
saWiro. ar aris sakmarisi winasaarCevnod<br />
mitingebze xalxis<br />
moyvana. unda dafiqsirdes protesti.<br />
xelisuflebis mzakvru-<br />
li gegmis winaaRmdeg gamosvlebi<br />
unda daiwyos. xalxma mkafio<br />
mesiji unda gaugzavnos xelisuflebas.<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi,<br />
samSoblos vkargavT.<br />
_ batono merab, bolos isev<br />
sakadro cvlilebebs minda davubrundeT.<br />
rogor fiqrobT, merabiSvils<br />
`gadarCenis~ ra Sansebi<br />
aqvs?<br />
_ radganac merabiSvilma<br />
icis, rom mas ukan dasaxevi gza<br />
mouWres, mas es saxezec etyoba,<br />
kidev erTxel vafiqsireb,<br />
mas aqvs Sansi, ukan daixios. man<br />
icis, raSi iRebs monawileobas,<br />
ra jgufis torpedos rols<br />
TamaSobs. igi gadarCeba, mas<br />
qarTveli xalxi gaugebs, Tu am<br />
mkvlelebis politikas gaemijna.<br />
Tu ase ar moiqca, igi iyo<br />
da darCeba mTeli am ubedurebis<br />
Tanamonawile, rasac nacionaluri<br />
boroteba hqvia. igi am<br />
gundTan erTad iwvnevs sisxlian<br />
`gamarjvebasac~, damarcxebasac<br />
da xalxis risxvas.<br />
Tamar SveliZe<br />
mTeli saqarTvelos masStabiT<br />
`kardakaris aqcia~ daiwyo `ocnebam~<br />
24 ivniss, xolo `amomrCevel-<br />
Ta ligam~ Tbilissa da zugdidSi<br />
_ 21 ivniss.<br />
amomrCeveli gvexmareba siebis<br />
dazustebaSi _ surT, rom exla mainc<br />
daidos samarTliani saarCevno<br />
siebi, gvawvdian informaciebs ezodan,<br />
Tu vin aris wasuli saqarTvelodan<br />
ucxoeTSi, vin aris miwerili<br />
ezoSi da vin ar aris siaSi.<br />
marjaniSvilis q.#59-Si ezos<br />
Tavmjdomarem aRmoaCina, rom misi<br />
Tanxmobis gareSe, ezoSi<br />
Cawerili iyo 5<br />
Cineli, maT<br />
amosawerad bevrjer<br />
mivida<br />
reestrSi da<br />
Zlivs miaRwia mizans<br />
_ amowera isini.<br />
minda vTqva, rom Tbilisis<br />
amomrCeveli CeRureTis raionis me-<br />
6, me-7 da 28-e ubanze sakmaod kargad<br />
aris informirebuli. maT ician<br />
vin aris kacitaZis komisia, vin<br />
aris, `amomrCevelTa liga~ da `qar-<br />
Tuli ocneba~. benaSvilis quCis<br />
erT-erT nomerSi roca mivediT,<br />
ojaxis patronebi midiodnen eklesiaSi,<br />
maT Tavdapirvelad vegoneT<br />
`nacebis~ warmomadgenlebi da ar<br />
hqondaT survili, CvenTvis moecaT<br />
raime informacia, roca gaiges, rom<br />
viyaviT amomrCevelTa ligidan, Sebrundnen<br />
binaSi, saxlSic migvipati-<br />
Jes da yvela saWiro informacia<br />
mogvawodes. axalcixis quCis erTerT<br />
nomerSi binis mepatrone axalgazrda<br />
mamakacma gviTxra: _Tu `nacebi~<br />
xarT saxlSi ar SemogiSveb-<br />
To. axalcixis quCis #20 dangreulia<br />
da `misamarTi ar iZebneba~ _<br />
iq Cawerili xalxi aravin ar icis<br />
vin aris. aseve benaSvilis q.#3 b.<br />
saerTod ar arsebobs, Sesabamisad<br />
iq macxovrebeli ori adamiani mezoblebma<br />
ar ician, vin aris. Segvxvdnen<br />
siaSi moqalaqeebi, romel-<br />
Tac 10-<strong>15</strong> wlis winaT gayiduli<br />
aqvT binebi, magram mainc<br />
figurireben Zveli misamarTis<br />
siebSi. aseTia mag.<br />
erisTavis q.#14 Cawerili<br />
parlamentis Tavmjris<br />
moadgile Ciora Taq-<br />
TaqiSvili da misi mama<br />
daviT TaqTaqiSvili. isini<br />
aRniSnuli misamarTidan<br />
gadavidnen <strong>15</strong> wlis winaT,<br />
rac daadastura mezobelma<br />
rom cxovroben vakeSi.<br />
mezoblis mier mocemuli<br />
telefoni 2.22.05.14 ar<br />
pasuxobs arc diliT da<br />
arc RamiT. saarCevno siebSi<br />
uxvad arian warmodgenilni<br />
pirebi, romlebic ar cxovroben am<br />
misamarTze, maT aravin ar icnobs _<br />
e.w. `miwerilebis~ _ Cawera ki<br />
aqvT.<br />
gorkis q.#27-Si Cawerili nana<br />
goginaSvili-erisTavi ramdenime<br />
wlis gardacvlilia, mis meuRles,<br />
givi erisTavs hyavs me-2 meuRle.<br />
gardacvlili figurirebs cocxlebis<br />
siaSi. aseve benaSvilis q.#12-<br />
Si siaSi myofi vaxtang mkervaliSvilic<br />
gardacvlilia.<br />
aseve gardacvlilebi arian<br />
cocxlebis siebSi:<br />
spicina tatiana _ ben.aSvilis<br />
q.#9-b.; megeneiSvili SoTa _ marjaniSvilis<br />
q.#65; koberiZe simoni<br />
_ z.qvlivis q.#23; tatiSvili Te-<br />
imurazi _ z.qvlivis q.#28; ZiZiguri<br />
lia _ z.qvliZis q.#28<br />
Segxvda siebSi Cawerili moqalaqe<br />
ori sxvadasxva gvariT.<br />
gubaevi Tamari; elyanaSvili Tamari<br />
_ diRombaZis q.#4 (28 ubani,<br />
CuRureTis r-ni)<br />
aseve uxvad arian moqalaqeebi,<br />
romlebic ar arian siebSi, sinamdvileSi,<br />
isini aRniSnul misamarTze<br />
cxovroben.<br />
mixeil SafaTava _ mamardaSvilis<br />
q.#12; nunu mWedliZe _ ` _ ~<br />
tel: 95.05.87; lela WumberiZe_<br />
benaSvilis q#9,<br />
tel: 94.04.48.;<br />
Tea WumberiZe<br />
_ benaSvilis<br />
q.#9 tel:<br />
94.04.48.<br />
axalcixis<br />
quCidan amomrCevelma<br />
gviTxra, rom `nacebis~<br />
maJoritarobis kandidat andro<br />
alaviZes _ misma koordinatorma<br />
Sexvedra ver mouwyo, aseve ver<br />
mougrova 10 amomrCevlis mxardam-<br />
Weris xelmowera. amave andro alaviZem<br />
17 ivniss, e.w. `londonis~<br />
baRSi amomrCevelTa bavSvebisTvis<br />
amRera ansambli `gvirila~, xolo<br />
Semdeg bavSvebs dauriges nayini, nayini<br />
miirTves `ocnebis~ mxardam-<br />
`kardakaris~ aqciiT<br />
naTeli xdeba, rom xalxi<br />
xelisuflebas ar endoba<br />
WerTa Svilebmac. Semdeg ki CuRureTis<br />
mikro-raionis TanamSromelma<br />
xizaniSvilma bavSvebs ayvira<br />
`madloba nacionalur moZraobaso~.<br />
minda vuTxra q-n naTia mogelaZes:<br />
_ es ar aris amomrCevelTa mosyidva?<br />
saarCevno siebSi uxvad arian<br />
moqalaqeebi, romlebic imyofebian<br />
sazRvargareT. mag:<br />
CuguaSvili lia _ axalcixis<br />
q.#23; Coquri Sorena _ axalcixis<br />
q.#13; afxazava arCili _ eris-<br />
Tavis q.#12; baSiriana elina _ mamardaSvilis<br />
q.#17<br />
yvelas xom ar CamovTvli, Cu-<br />
RureTis raionis #10 ubanze sazRvargareT<br />
wasuli aris 65 moqalaqe,<br />
`miwerili~ aris 41 moqalaqe,<br />
gardacvlili 7 moqalaqe, siebSi<br />
aris agreTve ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi,<br />
moqalaqeoba, miRebulni adamianebic.<br />
amomrCevlebma gviTxres: sagadasaxados<br />
TanamSromeli, vinme daTo<br />
gurgeniZe, aSinebs wvrili saqonliT<br />
movaWre pensionerebs, rom daajarimebs<br />
500 lariTo.<br />
`kardakaris~ aqciiT naTeli<br />
gaxda, rom xalxi aRar endoba xelisuflebas,<br />
xalxs imedi aqvs da<br />
ocnebobs, rom saakaSvilis xelisufleba<br />
Seicvleba da cxovreba<br />
gaumjobesdeba. `kardakaris~ aqciiT<br />
SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva, rom<br />
saakaSvilis xelisufleba arCevnebSi<br />
xmas 10 procentamde Tu<br />
aiRebs.<br />
rusudan pataraia
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
vesaubrebiT koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
warmomadgenels qalbaton nino<br />
goguaZes<br />
_ qalbatono nino, saganmanaTleblo<br />
sistemaSi rom policiuri reJimi damkvidrda,<br />
es ukve TvalnaTelia, ras uqadis<br />
es momaval Taobebs? an aseTi Ria<br />
`TamaSi~ ar azaralebs xelisuflebas?<br />
_ mandaturebs vCiodiT da Turme<br />
uaresi win gveloda, dRes ukve policia<br />
da kudia oficialurad Sesuli ganaTlebis<br />
sferoSi da isini ganageben iq yvelafers.<br />
es gaxlavT politikuri loializmis<br />
mixedviT awyobili sistema, romelic<br />
ukve totalitarul<br />
reJims emsgavseba im TvalsazrisiT,<br />
rom TiToeul<br />
sistemas akontroleben<br />
totalurad is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic mmarTvel partiaSi<br />
muSaoben. Tumca, maTi<br />
kompetencia naklebad awuxebs<br />
xelisuflebas.<br />
2000 wlidan 2003<br />
wlamde iqna SemuSavebuli<br />
is saganmanaTleblo reforma,<br />
romelic Semdgom<br />
ganxorcielda da `miiwera~<br />
am xelisuflebam. cxadia,<br />
es maTi SemuSavebuli ar<br />
iyo.<br />
_ Tqveni azriT, ratom moxda maia miminoSvilis<br />
ganTavisufleba, xelisufleba<br />
xom mas endoboda wlebis manZilze?<br />
_ sakiTxi koka seferTelaZemac da<br />
gigi TevzaZemac ise warmoadgines, TiTqos<br />
xelmZRvanelobasa da mas Soris iyo<br />
konceftualuri SeuTavsebloba da Widili<br />
da am `diad reformebs~ miminoSvili<br />
xels uSlida. es aris SeuZlebeli. es<br />
rom marTali yofiliyo, is gamocdebis<br />
dawyebamde unda moexsnaT dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan.<br />
me vfiqrob, rom is politikuri<br />
niSniT gaxda maTTvis miuRebeli.<br />
nebismier SemTxvevaSi gamoacxadeben,<br />
rom gamocdebma kargad Caiara, rac SeiZleba<br />
bevri abiturienti Cairicxeba imitom,<br />
rom ar daiwyos gasaCivrebisa da<br />
protestis procesebi, arCevnebis win ar<br />
dagrovdes ukmayofilo adamianebi, winaswar<br />
SemiZlia davamSvido. abiturientis<br />
mSoblebi, rom maT Svilebs CaWra ar<br />
emuqrebaT. es yvelaferi ki moxdeba imis<br />
xarjze, rom erovnuli sagamocdo centris<br />
axali TanamSromlebis arakompetenturoba<br />
ar gamJRavndes. is, rom namuSevarTa<br />
gasworebis mxrivac totaluri<br />
arakompetenturoba iqneba, darwmunebuli<br />
var. namuSevarTa gasworebas _ codna unda,<br />
romelic maT ar gaaCniaT. etyoba amas<br />
gulisxmobda koka seferTelaZe, roca<br />
abiturientTaTvis komfortuli garemos<br />
Seqmnaze saubrobda.<br />
_ qalbatono nino, Tqvenc aRniSneT<br />
da yvelam icis, rom misaRebi gamocdebi<br />
umaRlesi saswavleblebis gareT gamotanil<br />
iqna imisaTvis, rom korufcia moespoT<br />
am sistemaSi, momavali wlidan ki<br />
misaRebi gamocdebi kvlav skolebSi Catardeba,<br />
es xom ar Seuwyobs xels korufciuli<br />
garemos Seqmnas?<br />
_ ucxoeTSic xdeba ise, rom skolis<br />
gamosaSveb gamocdebs aqvT gadamwyveti<br />
mniSvneloba, magram iq umaRles saswavleblebs<br />
aqvT avtonomia, da sakuTar wesebs<br />
ganaviTareben. cxadia, rom skolis<br />
damTavrebisas rva gamocdis uceb Semo-<br />
Reba moumzadeblad, sruli nonsensi iyo,<br />
ramac kolafsur mdgomareobaSi Caayena<br />
swavlis procesi.<br />
ganaTlebis sferos<br />
policia, kudi da<br />
sodi akontrolebs<br />
dRes ras zomavs es gamocdebi aravin<br />
ar icis. imisaTvis rom sistema gaimar-<br />
Tos, amas sWirdeba Tavdauzogavi Sroma,<br />
reformis gatareba am sferoSi nebismieri<br />
kuTxiT, Zalian rTulia. gigi Tevza-<br />
Zem Riad ganacxada, rom unda vaRiaroT,<br />
rom skola codnas ver iZlevao, amitom<br />
unda gadavideT iseT sistemaze, rom ufro<br />
advili iyos umaRles saswavlebel-<br />
Si mowyobao. e.i. unda miviRoT apriori,<br />
rom skola ganaTlebas ver aZlevs moswavleso.<br />
ras niSnavs, is, rom skola ar an ver<br />
iZleva codnas? ganaTlebis saministro<br />
imisTvis arsebobs, rom skolam misces<br />
codna moswavles, Torem sxva ra daniSnuleba<br />
aqvs am saministros?<br />
gigi TevzaZis logikiT Tu vimsjelebT,<br />
xom ar jobia, saerTod gavauqmoT<br />
skola da sabavSvo baRidan pirdapir<br />
umaRles saswavlebelSi miviRoT patarebi?<br />
aba, sxvas ras niSnavs es?<br />
skolis sagamocdo testebi isea Sedgenili,<br />
rom imiT moswavlis codna ver<br />
gaizomeba, isini umartivesia. Tu es saqme<br />
ase gagrZeldeba, qveyanaSi ganaTlebis<br />
sistemas momavali ar uweria! wina wleb-<br />
Si 3-4 saganSi mainc emzadebodnen moswavleebi,<br />
romelTac mere umaRlesSi abarebdnen,<br />
amJamad esec ispoba. samwuxarod,<br />
dRes umaRles saswavleblebs aranairi<br />
avtonomia ar gaaCniaT da aranair<br />
kriteriumebs isini ar Txouloben umaRlesSi<br />
Casaricxad, amas ra hqvia?<br />
dRemde ver gavige, ra saWiroa im<br />
erTi zogadi unarebis gamocda, romelic<br />
dRemde am xelisuflebisa da ganaTlebis<br />
saministros mTavari prioritetia. amdeni<br />
welia am saganSi es gamocda tardeba<br />
da misi aucilebloba riTia gamowveuli<br />
_ yvelasaTvis gaugebaria.<br />
politikuri situaciis Secvlis Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi, am dargs sWirdeba sruliad<br />
Secvla, organizebuli muSaoba, raTa aRdges<br />
skolis funqciac da umaRlesi saswavleblis<br />
rolic.<br />
eTer kasreliSvili<br />
`netav, erTi romelime<br />
politikosi gagvacilebina<br />
operis Teatridan<br />
madlobebis TqmiT~...<br />
iinntteerrvviiuu 11996688 wwlliiss oolliimmppiiuurr,,<br />
mmssoofflliiooss aarraaeerrTTggzziiss CCeemmppiioonnTTaann<br />
roman ruruasTan..<br />
_ batono roman, ra aris sporti<br />
zogadad da ra aris is TqvenTvis?<br />
_ zogierTvis sporti da fizkultura<br />
SeiZleba iyos gasarTobi, magram<br />
olimpiuri da msoflio Cempioni<br />
ekuTvnis xalxs da sazogadoebas. misi<br />
damsaxureba, da Tu rames miiRwia<br />
ekuTvnis xalxs da sazogadoebas, qveyanas.<br />
swored es gaxlavT patriotizmi.<br />
Tu es ar eqneba, igi didi sportsmeni<br />
ver iqneba.<br />
_ samwuxarod, zogierTma sportsmenma<br />
gadauxvia am gzas, pirdapir<br />
vTqvaT, xeli awia Tavis sakuTar xalxze,<br />
Seuracxyofa miayena sakuTar<br />
gulSematkivrebs. ras ityviT amaze?<br />
_ samxedro armia qveyanaSi risTvis<br />
arsebobs, armia sakuTari qveynis<br />
winaaRmdeg arsad ar midis. Rirseuli<br />
moqalaqe ar SeiZleba gavides sakuTari<br />
qveynis winaaRmdeg. armia qveynebSi<br />
imitom arsebobs, rom daicvas qveyana<br />
mtrebisgan. sportsmenic asevea, mas,<br />
ubralod, ar aqvs ufleba iyos miker-<br />
Zoebuli. xelisuflebis zogierTi<br />
warmomadgenlis mikvirs, romelic ambobs:<br />
`vinc ar aris Cveni partiis<br />
wevri...~ ra gamodis, Tu ar var im<br />
partiis wevri, prezidenti da mTavroba<br />
ara myavs? gamodis, rom prezidents<br />
da mTavrobis wevrebs TavianTi<br />
partiis wevrebi hyavT qveyanaSi? dRes<br />
aris vinme opoziciidan qveynis mmarTvelobaSi?<br />
ara, radgan yvela erTi<br />
partiidan arian. nuTu yvela Wkviani<br />
da saqmis gamkeTebeli adamiani mxolod<br />
erT partiaSia? sxvebi sad arian?<br />
ar hyavT prezidenti da mTavroba?<br />
ar SeuZliaT miiRon monawileoba<br />
qveynis marTvaSi? an ar uyvarT TavianTi<br />
qveyana? adamiani politikosi ma-<br />
Sin xar, rodesac droze moxval da<br />
droze waxval. Tu zomierebis grZnoba<br />
ar gaqvs, maSin did Secdomebs dauSveb,<br />
romelic SeiZleba damRupvelic<br />
aRmoCndes.<br />
amis SegrZneba unda hqondes adamians.<br />
rodesac mova dro da veRarafers<br />
akeTeb, droze unda gaecalo da waxvide.<br />
xedavT, rogor hgavs erTmaneTs<br />
sporti da politika. modiT erTxel<br />
mainc gavaciloT romelime politikosi<br />
operis Teatridan, darbazidan<br />
madlobiT. erTi vinme mainc gavaciloT<br />
ase Rirseulad, Torem zogi gaagdes,<br />
zogi _ mokles... cudia, rode-<br />
sac istoriis gakveTilebiT Wkuas ver<br />
vswavlobT. dRes rac aklia Cvens sazogadoebas,<br />
swored inteleqtia.<br />
dRes bevrs saubroben demokratiaze,<br />
magram ra aris WeSmariti demokratia,<br />
jerac ver gagvigia.<br />
yvelaferi damokidebulia Tavad im<br />
adamianis niWze da unarze. mas SeuZlia<br />
gaigos dRevandeli mdgomareoba<br />
gaigos kargic, cudic, an rogor<br />
icxovros im adamianma amas sakmao<br />
Wkua-goneba, unda. ojaxs Tu kargad<br />
marTavs adamiani, mas bevris gakeTeba<br />
SeuZlia. kai biWis da gogos saxeliT<br />
ar unda iniSnebodnen Tanamdebobebze<br />
xalxi. Cven gvWirdeba specialistebi.<br />
_ Tqven didi skola gaiareT rogorc<br />
sportSi, aseve cxovrebaSi.<br />
Tqveni ukmayofilo aravin yofila.<br />
rogor axerxebdiT amas?<br />
_ sabWoTa nakrebSi moulodnelad<br />
movxvdi, pirvelTanrigosani viyavi,<br />
aseTi ram iSviaToba iyo. momdevno<br />
wels ki kapitnadac amirCies. farul<br />
arCevnebSi 40 xma davagrove, metoqeebma<br />
29-29, sxvaTa Soris, eseni iyvnen<br />
titulovani moWidaveebi _ sapunovi<br />
da iguminovi. wlebis Semdeg<br />
iguminovma Tqva: `rurua Cveni gundis<br />
sindisi da patiosneba iyo~-o. eqvsni<br />
viyaviT nakrebis wevrebi Cems woniT<br />
kate<strong>gori</strong>aSi, magram rogorc kapitani,<br />
yvelasTan samarTliani viyavi, amiT<br />
davimsaxure pativiscema.<br />
_ axla Tu varjiSobT?<br />
_ ara, varjiSebma damRala. fizikurad<br />
vSromob. aranair Sromas ar<br />
vTakilob. nebismier Cemi asakis kacs<br />
dResac davamarcxeb.<br />
gia burduli<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
11
12 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
am werils rom sapatriarqos<br />
warmomadgenlebi waikiTxaven,<br />
vvaraudob, an cxvirs aibzueben,<br />
an ufro radikalurni<br />
kidev erTxel momayrian qoqolas,<br />
ise, rogorc SarSan, antimarTlmadideblurpolitikur<br />
kanonze sapatriarqos xelis<br />
mowerisas moiqcnen Cemi<br />
werilebis seriis Semdeg, sadac<br />
sapatriarqoSi gamefebul<br />
usamarTlobebze vwerdi da<br />
TviT meufe ilarion samxaraZis<br />
amJamindeli mdgomareobac davuxate<br />
yvelas. ramdenime dRe-<br />
Si kvlav vapireb meufis monaxulebas<br />
da minda icodeT, miuxedavad<br />
Cems mier meufis mdgomareobis<br />
TvalnaTliv aRwerisa,<br />
sapatriarqos arc erTi<br />
warmomadgeneli ar yofila<br />
gandegil meufesTan da erTi<br />
xeli tanisamosic aravis miutania<br />
RvTis anabarad mitovebuli<br />
70 wels gadacilebuli<br />
moxucisTvis.<br />
samagierod, sapatriarqoSi<br />
mokalaTebuli umaRlesi samRvdelo<br />
pirebi jipebSi arian<br />
Caskupebulni da saaqao cxovrebaSi<br />
cdiloben sasufeveli<br />
daimkvidron, radgan, veWvob,<br />
saiqio cxovrebis swamdeT...<br />
magram es sxva Temaa. geTanxmebiT.<br />
piraduli, delikaturi,<br />
ufro frTxilad salaparako.<br />
ki, batono, gavCumdebi,<br />
sxvis rwmena-urwmunoebaze ar<br />
vilaparakeb, magram, roca urwmunoebis<br />
eSmakeuli sufeva<br />
mZvinvarebs, xocaven adamianebs,<br />
Seuracxyofen, cixeebSi adamianebis<br />
sisxliT da xorciT ZRebian,<br />
maTi wamebiT tkbebian, da-<br />
Cexili cxedrebi gamoaqvT sapatimroebidan,<br />
roca qveyanaSi<br />
kudianebis aRlumi imarTeba _<br />
gei da lesbi jgufebi karebs<br />
umtvreven axalgazrdebis cnobierebas,<br />
skolebSi rom bavSvebis<br />
tvinebis aRreva xdeba, xolo<br />
e.w. `Tavisuflebis instituti~<br />
eSmakeulTa TavSesafrad<br />
aris qceuli, samRvdeloeba<br />
konformistul, Semrigeblur,<br />
diplomatiur poziciebs<br />
`nebayoflobiTi~ warwymeda<br />
rom iWers, amaze maqvs laparaki.<br />
ramdenime dRis win wminda<br />
sinodi Seikriba da ganaCina _<br />
eleqtronuli pasportebi nebayoflobiTi<br />
unda iyoso...<br />
didi sjulis kanoni gvamcnobs,<br />
rom samRvdelo piri ar<br />
unda Caeros politikur cxovrebaSi,<br />
garda gansakuTrebuli<br />
mdgomareobisa da sinodis amaswinandeli<br />
gancxadebac _ samRvdeloeba<br />
politikaSi ar Caerioso,<br />
rogorc Cans, swored<br />
am kanonidan gamomdinareobda,<br />
magram axla saqarTvelos gansakuTrebuli<br />
mdgomareoba Tu<br />
ar aqvs, aba, amaze gansakuTrebuli,<br />
netavi, rodis hqonda??<br />
2004 wlis TebervalSi saqarTvelos<br />
iusticiis saministrom<br />
`saqarTvelos moqalaqis<br />
plastikuri mowmobebis~ Sesaxeb<br />
daiwyo saubari, mowmobebisa,<br />
romelic Seicavs Cipsa da<br />
Sesabamisad, ricxvs 666. gazafxulze<br />
siamayiT gvamcnes,<br />
rom biometriuli pasportebis<br />
`aucilebelia sifxizle. gvmar-<br />
Tebs, viyoT informirebulni da<br />
sxvebsac mivawodoT informacia.<br />
Tuki gavCumdebiT, maSin eleqtronuli<br />
monaTmflobeloba Zalian male<br />
iqneba SemoRebuli. unda viyoT<br />
sakuTari qveynis aqtiuri da ara pasiuri<br />
moqalaqeni. moZRvrebma unda<br />
miawodon informacia mrevls, iqadagon,<br />
gaafrTxilon TavianTi samwyso mosalodneli saSiSroebis<br />
Sesaxeb. amgvarad SevZlebT win aRvudgeT momaval borot Zalas,<br />
romelic gegmazomierad da etapobrivad amzadebs antiqristes<br />
msoflio diqtaturas~.<br />
mTawmindelTa xma<br />
(aTonis wminda mTa. `eklesiuri swavlebani bolo Jamis Sesaxeb~)<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
vis mxaresaa eklesia _<br />
xalxisken Tu xelisuflebisken?<br />
gacema ukve daiwyo, Tan acxadebdnen,<br />
am pasportebiT evrokavSiris<br />
qveynebSi qarTvelTa<br />
gasvla ufro martivi gaxde-<br />
bao. TviT evropis saxelmwifoebma:<br />
safrangeTma, inglisma,<br />
germaniam, ukrainam, ruseTma,<br />
marTlmadidebelma saberZneTma<br />
uari Tqves ID baraTebze.<br />
sapatriarqos<br />
warmomadgenlebma<br />
da wminda sinodma,<br />
romlebic adamianisadmi<br />
siyvaruliT<br />
unda iyvnen savse,<br />
gaampartavnebulni<br />
dadian da zogierTi<br />
Tval da yurdafsebuli<br />
brmad rom<br />
uvardeba kalTaSi<br />
maT da gakerpebuli<br />
rom hyavT umaRlesi<br />
samRvdelo ierarqebi,<br />
imas ver xvdebian,<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
mosaxleobas, ubralo<br />
moqalaqes xelisufleba<br />
yelSi<br />
xels rom uWers,<br />
gadasaxadebiT rom<br />
axrCobs, erovnulobas<br />
rom uboWavs,<br />
qarTvelebi ufro<br />
daCagrulni rom arian TavianT<br />
qveyanaSi, vidre somxebi, azerbaijanelebi,<br />
Cinelebi, zangebi<br />
da znedacemuli, garyvnili<br />
iankebi, axla eleqtronuli baraTebiT<br />
undaT am xalxis dayofa,<br />
dakabaleba, daxarisxeba<br />
gasayidi xorciviT da isedac<br />
limitirebuli Tavisuflebis<br />
SezRudva. axla Cipiani pasportiT<br />
unda Semamowmon sad vsun-<br />
Tqav me, diRomSi Tu amerikuli<br />
pepliT SeWmuli baxmaros<br />
naZvis ZirSi?! radgan ID bara-<br />
Tis miRebisas ixsneba grafa,<br />
sadac aRiricxeba _ 80 weli<br />
icocxleb Tu 100, yovel<br />
dRes, wuTsa da wams ra gaake-<br />
Te, sad iyavi teritoriulad,<br />
yvelaferi aRinusxeba.<br />
safrangeTis profkavSirebis<br />
generaluri mdivani kom<br />
Jakmeni ambobs: `am proeqtis<br />
amoqmedeba sazogadoebaze policiuri<br />
zedamxedvelobis gaZlierebas<br />
gulisxmobs. eleqtronuli<br />
piradobis mowmobebis<br />
SemoRebis Semdeg policias eqneba<br />
adamianebis piradi monacemebi~.<br />
saakaSvili ki acxadebs, rom<br />
saqarTvelom ID baraTebis SemoRebiT<br />
gauswro evropis qveynebs<br />
da isini am sakiTxSi CamogvrCnen<br />
(!).<br />
ra gamodis? samRvdeloeba<br />
da qveynis xelmZRvaneloba, ase<br />
vTqvaT, erT xmaSi mRerian? xolo<br />
is samRvdelo pirebi, vinc<br />
simarTles amboben, iatakqve-<br />
Sur moRvaweobas ewevian? magaliTad,<br />
mama basil mkalaviSvili,<br />
vinc ieRovuri literaturis<br />
gavrcelebaSi amxila sinodis<br />
wevrebi, cixeSi gamoketes,<br />
mis mier agebuli salocavi<br />
rom merabiSvilis, adeiSvilis,<br />
bokerias da baramiZis xelmZRvanelobiT<br />
Selewes da iqidan<br />
mama basili wveriT rom gamoaTries,<br />
maSin ar amouRia xma<br />
sapatriarqos. qarTuli marTlmadidebluri<br />
eklesiis mrevlis<br />
wevri _ sandro girgvli-<br />
`...1977 wels 25 dekembers<br />
anderZis safuZvelze ilia II<br />
patriarqad akurTxes. amis<br />
Semdeg eklesiaSi dapirispireba<br />
daiwyo. meufe ilarioni<br />
(samxaraZe) simarTlis dadgenas<br />
moiTxovda, xolo mitropoliti<br />
gaiozi patriarqobisTvis<br />
ibrZoda, radgan<br />
is iyo qorepiskoposi, e.i.<br />
pirveli piri patriarqis<br />
Semdeg jer kidev efrem IIis<br />
dros. daviT V-is gardacvalebis<br />
mere keratiSvili<br />
xatebis qurdobis braldebiT<br />
cixeSi gauSves, xolo<br />
ilarion samxaraZe gaurkvevel<br />
viTarebaSi mowamles...~<br />
saerTo gazeTi,<br />
#37, 2011 w.<br />
ani rom tyeSi gatitvlebuli<br />
awames, daCexes da mkvdari datoves,<br />
am mxecobazec sdumda<br />
eklesia. guram SaraZes qarTuli<br />
saeklesio da saero siwmindeebis<br />
dacvisTvis rom quCaSi<br />
Tavi gauxvrites, arc amaze<br />
amouRia xma. romeli erTi CamovTvalo?<br />
gasagebia, didi sjulis kanoni<br />
politikaSi samRvdeloebis<br />
CarTvas krZalavs...<br />
adamianebis kvla politikis<br />
nawili yofila, es me ar vicodi!..<br />
* * *<br />
mRvdeli vaxtang margianis<br />
interviuSi, romelic man 1999<br />
wlis 13 aprils `axal Taobas~<br />
misca, vkiTxulobT:<br />
` _ rac vTqvi, imaze SemiZlia,<br />
iuridiulad vago pasuxi...<br />
`7 ianvars ilia II-m dampatiJa<br />
banketze saeklesio dResaswaulis<br />
dReebSi. TiTqmis<br />
darwmunebiT SemiZlia vTqva,<br />
rom banketi Catarda, magram<br />
maTTvis sul ar iyo Soba mniSvnelovani<br />
dResaswauli. yvelaze<br />
kargi Tamadebi iyvnen Cems<br />
mier xsenebuli diakoni levan<br />
sxilaZe da amJamad cxum-afxazeTis<br />
mitropoliti daniel<br />
daTuaSvili. maSin is arqimandriti<br />
iyo. ilia II-s yvela<br />
ulocavda gamarjvebas, vinaidan...<br />
vageb pasuxs, marto xom<br />
ar vijeqi im sufrasTan, Tu<br />
sindisi Seawuxebs vinmes _<br />
ulocavdnen ilia II-s, vinaidan<br />
ilia II-is locviT iyo, rom...<br />
_ locviT rom iyo, ra?<br />
_ rom ganidevna gamsaxurdia<br />
saqarTvelodan da ras ar<br />
uwodebda TviTon samRvdeloeba.<br />
vinc iq isxdnen. ai, konstantine<br />
meliqiZe, magaliTad.<br />
erTi sityviT, ilia II-s gamarjvebas<br />
ulocavdnen, ulocavdnen<br />
gamsaxurdias damxobas, ginda<br />
Tu ara gaognebuli viyavi,<br />
gaognebuli, radgan ar movelodi,<br />
rom me kaTalikosis sa-<br />
meufe ilarioni
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
ambrosi xelaia: ,,...is<br />
yovlad Seuferebeli eqsperimentebi,<br />
romelsac axdenen<br />
qarTveli eris zurgze,<br />
aucileblad miiyvans mas<br />
fizikuri gadaSenebis da<br />
sulierad gavelurebisa da<br />
gaxrwnis karamde! ers arTmeven<br />
mama-papaTa sisxliT<br />
da ZvlebiT gapoxierebul<br />
miwa-tyes, romelsac ucxoe-<br />
Tidan SemoxiznulT urigeben:<br />
maTi wyalobiT isedac<br />
gaRatakebul ers piridan<br />
hglejen misi sisxliTa da<br />
ofliT moweul sarCos da<br />
gaugebaris siCqariT isev ucxoeTSi miezidebian. ers<br />
ugmoben da arTmeven mSobliur enas, mas ubilwaven mama-papur<br />
erovnul kulturas...”<br />
1922 weli, 7Tebervali<br />
xiT am pirovnebas davinaxavdi _<br />
aRvsils zizRiT.<br />
ra Tqma unda, erTmaneTs ecilebodnen<br />
misaloci sadRegrZeloebis<br />
TqmaSi arqimandriti danieli<br />
da diakoni levan sxila-<br />
Ze, romlebic ulocavdnen gamarjvebas<br />
ilia II-s.<br />
_ mamao, SeiZleboda Tu ara<br />
gamosuliyo sinodi da damdgariyo<br />
barikadebis sxvadasxva<br />
mxares mdgar qarTvelTa Soris<br />
da sisxlisRvra Sewyvetiliyo?<br />
_ valdebulebi iyvnen. ar gamomivides<br />
gamsaxurdias dacvad,<br />
magram nu gavakeTebT ise, rom<br />
yvelaferSi raRac gviSlis<br />
xels. viRacas gamsaxurdias megreloba<br />
uSlida xels.<br />
erTmaneTs pirnaTlad SevxedoT<br />
TvalebSi. me ranair pasuxisgebaSic<br />
ar unda Cavvarde,<br />
Tu kaci mqvia, ar maqvs ufleba<br />
gamsaxurdias ar vuwodo WeSmariti<br />
marTlmadidebeli, morwmune.<br />
imitom, rom, rasac gamsaxurdia<br />
ebrZoda, iqneboda es<br />
aralegalurad Tu legalurad<br />
da, saerTod, yvela is pretenzia,<br />
yvela is braldeba, rasac<br />
igi marqsistul sazogadoebas<br />
uyenebda, am yvelafris gakeTeba<br />
eklesiis prerogativa iyo. eklesias<br />
unda daesva es braldeba<br />
am urwmuno sazogadoebisaTvis.<br />
SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac<br />
rom gadavxedoT, amas yvela mixvdeba;<br />
moxda ki piriqiT. aviRoT<br />
70-iani wlebi da aviRoT Tundac<br />
prezidentobis periodi.<br />
gamsaxurdias pretenziebis mogeriebis<br />
erT-erTi saSualeba,<br />
saxeldobr, eklesia iyo. me davexmarebi<br />
maT da arqivSi movZebnoT<br />
maSindeli gazeTi `komunisti~.<br />
daapatimres Tu ara gamsaxurdia<br />
da kostava, gazeTi savse<br />
iyo gamsaxurdiasadmi eklesiis<br />
mxridan cru monaWoriTa<br />
da cru braldebebiT. eklesia<br />
aWarbebda centralur komitets,<br />
ministrTa sabWos, prezidiums,<br />
prokuraturas, saSinel<br />
suks da ZirTadi bralmdebeli<br />
TviTon iyo. TviTon eklesia<br />
gamsaxurdias uwodebda erTa<br />
Soris SuRlis Camomgdebs da<br />
a.S.<br />
_ vin iyvnen eseni?<br />
_ axlave getyviT: mitropoliti<br />
maJuga, nevelis eklesiis<br />
winamZRvari, mitropoliti gai-<br />
oz keratiSvili _ qorepiskoposi,<br />
wilkneli episkoposi, seminariis<br />
reqtori. Tanamdebobebi<br />
RmerTma mogces!<br />
_ vin aris mesame?<br />
_ alaverdeli episkoposi<br />
grigol cercvaZe da a.S. xom xedavT,<br />
ra xdeba? nacvlad imisa,<br />
rom eklesias daeWira mxari am<br />
pirovnebisaTvis da, saerTod,<br />
misi ideebisTvis, piriqiT moxda.<br />
eklesia gaxda gamsaxurdias ideebis<br />
mogeriebis erT-erTi saSualeba.<br />
rac Seexeba im cnobil,<br />
tragikul movlenebs. eklesia<br />
valdebuli iyo Careuliyo.<br />
marxvaao.<br />
marxvaSi marto is xom ar<br />
Sedis, rom karaqi da rZe ar<br />
SevWamoT, moveridoT avsityvaobas,<br />
SfoTs da a.S. valdebulni<br />
iyvnen misuliyvnen da ukanaskneli<br />
Zal-Rone exmaraT, raTa sisxlisRvra<br />
ar momxdariyo, magram<br />
piradad ilia II-m xom arCia<br />
dumili? am dumilSi ra imaleba,<br />
Tqven amas unda mixvdeT.<br />
_ mama zaqariam Tqva, is avad<br />
iyoo?<br />
_ tyuilia. ra SuaSia avadmyofoba.<br />
Tu avad iyo, qorepiskoposic<br />
avad iyo? mTeli samRvdeloeba<br />
avad iyo? erT-erTi<br />
mainc unda gaegzavna vinme. anda,<br />
ra SuaSia, me xom ar vambob,<br />
ginda Tu ara, gasuliyo ilia II<br />
da iq TofiT xelSi damdgariyo-meTqi?<br />
iq sinodi an mRvdeli<br />
mainc gaeSva?~ (`axali Taoba~,<br />
1999 w.).<br />
ar vici, Tqven aqedan samRvdeloebis<br />
poziciebi gecnoT Tu<br />
ara, magram piradad me, eklesiis<br />
diplomatiuri xelwera Zalian<br />
meniSna. zustad igive xdeba<br />
axla, rac xdeboda 10 da cota<br />
meti wlis winaT.<br />
rac Seexeba gamsaxurdias,<br />
masze dResac, misi oponentebic<br />
ki ver ityvian imas, rom morwmune<br />
ar iyo da erovnul saxelmwifos<br />
ar aSenebda. Tumca ar<br />
dascalda, magram qveynis da<br />
RvTis siyvaruliT rom iRvwoda<br />
mTeli cxovreba, zviadis mosisxle<br />
mtrebic dameTanxmebian ama-<br />
Si. maS, ratom airCia samRvdeloebam<br />
bolSevikuri gza da ratom<br />
dauWira mxari eduard-giorgi<br />
SevardnaZes? ratom ganudga<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias, damoukidebeli<br />
qarTuli saxelmwifos<br />
balavaris Camyrels?<br />
1993 wlis 14 seqtembers<br />
did mitingze ilia II eduard<br />
SevardnaZes mimarTavs: `mTeli<br />
saqarTvelo Relavs. amitom ufleba<br />
maqvs, rogorc saqarTvelos<br />
sulier mamas da piradad<br />
Tqvens sulier mamas (mimarTavs<br />
SevardnaZes _ i.k.) mogceT<br />
locva-kurTxeva, rom mTel saqarTvelos<br />
ganucxadoT, rom<br />
Tqven brZandebiT saqarTvelos<br />
meTauri~. razec eduard SevardnaZe<br />
Sekrebil aTasobiT (!) momitinges<br />
niSnismogebiT gadasZaxebs<br />
mTavrobis saxlis fanjridan:<br />
`xma RvTisa da xma erisao~.<br />
maSin samRvdeloeba mxars<br />
SevardnaZes rom uWerda, axla<br />
meufe kalistrate gulSi rom<br />
ixutebs saakaSvils da Svilad<br />
rom hyavs aRiarebuli, sapatriarqos<br />
saidumlo vizitebiT<br />
xan ugulava rom<br />
stumrobs, xan soso TofuriZe<br />
da xan sxva Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi, saakaSvils rom<br />
amoiyeneben xolme gverdSi<br />
ivaniSvilis aSenebul samebis<br />
sakaTedro taZarSi da<br />
ise rom atareben wirvalocvas,<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia<br />
qristianobis mteri iyo da<br />
mixeil saakaSvili da eduard<br />
SevardnaZe qristesmoyvareni<br />
arian? dakargul<br />
`cxvars~ patronoben? amasobaSi<br />
ramdeni `cxvari~<br />
daekarga saqarTvelos eklesias,<br />
daTvala vinmem?..<br />
iranda<br />
kalandaZe<br />
mkiTxvelebi gvweren<br />
me-19 me-20 saukunis moRvawe da<br />
didi mamuliSvili niko nikolaZe werda:<br />
,,despotias sZuls warsuli. winaparTa<br />
naSrom-naRvawi. yvela diqtatori<br />
istorias Tavidan iwyebs. mas miaCnia,<br />
rom yvelaferi misgan iwyeba. rac manamdis<br />
iyo, yvelaferi uaryofiTi da dasagmobia...”<br />
yvela mkiTxveli daufiqreblad<br />
mixvdeba, rom es fenomeni ujiSo<br />
_ miSa saakaSvilia. Cemi werilis es<br />
preambula litoni sityvebi rom araa<br />
da es sruli WeSmaritebaa, Tqven darwmundebiT<br />
aq moyvanili sakiTxebiT:<br />
rogor aumoZravda qarTvel kacs<br />
xelebi, da rogor Seasrula miSa saakaSvilis<br />
iseTi veraguli brZaneba, ro<strong>gori</strong>c<br />
iyo quTaisSi SinmousvlelTa<br />
Zeglis afeTqeba, dangreva da amoZirkva.<br />
aseT veragul qmedebebs xom saqarTvelos<br />
dauZinebeli mteri, aRa-mahmad-xani<br />
akeTebda! maSin raRa sxvaobaa miSa saakaSvilsa<br />
da aRa-mahmad-xans Soris?!<br />
is Zegli xom simbolo iyo Cveni,<br />
im 300 000 mebrZolisa, romlebic gmirulad<br />
daecnen brZolis velze didi<br />
samamulo omis dros, risTvisac Cvenma<br />
madlierma xalxma maTdami didi pativiscemis<br />
gamosaxatavad, is Zegli daudga<br />
maT.<br />
Cvenma madlianma xalxma 300 000<br />
Sinmousvlel-gmirulad daRupul jariskacebs,<br />
maTi xsovnis ukvdavsayofad<br />
Zegli rom daudga da 60 welze meti<br />
xnis ganmavlobaSi didi rudunebiT rom<br />
eloliaveboda, uvlida da inaxavda,<br />
ujiSo saakaSvilma xuTi milioni mosaxleoba<br />
fexebze daikida da veraguli<br />
gadawyvetilebiT Zegli aafeTqebina da<br />
sruliad udanaSaulo deda-Svili _<br />
jinWaraZeebis sicocxlec zed miayola.<br />
Cven rom xalxi viyoT, erTi ujiSo saakaSvili<br />
amdens ver gagvibedavda. albaT,<br />
metis Rirsebi varT, misgan ase<br />
abuCad agdebas yeyeCebiviT rom SevyurebT<br />
da mis yovel borot saqciels<br />
rom vylapavT. mis am veragul saqciels<br />
Cvens meti arc erTi eri ar moiTmenda.<br />
CemTvis gaugebari da gamaognebelia<br />
agreTve is, rom miSas garemocvaSi er-<br />
Ti Wkviani moxele mainc rom ar aRmoCnda,<br />
romelic etyoda mas: Zeglis dangreva<br />
ara marto borotebaa, aramed udidesi<br />
danaSaulic, im 300 000 Sinmousvleli<br />
Tanamemamulis winaSe, romlebic<br />
gmirulad daecnen brZolis velze. mova<br />
dro, Cvens saqciels mTeli eri dahgmobs,<br />
daswyevlis da Cvens gvarebs yvelaze<br />
samarcxvino boZze gaakraveno. mis<br />
garemocvaSi raki aseTi mrCeveli ar<br />
aRmoCnda, maSin vai, Cvens xalxs! aseT<br />
xelisuflebas Tu simxdalis gamo ver<br />
gaubeda SewinaaRmdegeba, miSas ewyineba<br />
da momicilebso, maSin kidev uaresi<br />
vai da vui Cven, aseTi laCari saxelmwifo<br />
moxeleebis xelSi, sadac erTi<br />
vaJkaci ar moiZebna.<br />
miSam Zeglis afeTqebas deda-Svil<br />
jinWaraZeebis sicocxlec rom Seswira.<br />
mas rom kacoba hqonoda, misi brZanebiT,<br />
maTi tragikulad daRupvis gamo tyvia<br />
unda ekra SublSi, magram sada aqvs mi-<br />
Sas imdeni zneoba da kacoba, maT wina-<br />
Se Cadenili udidesi danaSauli ase<br />
vaJkacurad gamoesyida! rogorc es gaakeTa<br />
_ jumber patiaSvilma, rodesac<br />
veragi SevardnaZis mier moskovidan gacemuli<br />
gankargulebiT Semosulma rusma<br />
saldaTebma Cveni xalxi rom daxoces.<br />
patiaSvilma maSinve dawera gancxadeba<br />
da gadadga, radgan man ver daicva<br />
Tavisi xalxi, romelTa dacva mas evaleboda,<br />
im udanaSaulo deda-Svilis<br />
tragikulad daRupva miSas borotma<br />
sulma unda zRos.<br />
Cvens parlamentarebs zneoba da kacoba<br />
Tu gaaCniaT, ujiSo saakaSvilis<br />
mier deda _ Svil jinWaraZeebis sisxldaTxeul,<br />
codvian parlamentSi arc<br />
unda Sevidnen, ar unda Sevidnen agreTve<br />
imitom, rom man es parlamenti aaSena<br />
im 300 000 SinmousvlelTa Zeglis<br />
adgilze, romlebic gmirulad daecnen<br />
brZolis velze didi samamulo omis<br />
dros.<br />
miSa, stalinis Zegls, Cveni madliani<br />
xalxi isev ki dadgams Tavis adgilze,<br />
magram Seni saxsenebeli ki aRigveba<br />
miwisagan pirisa mTel saqarTveloSi,<br />
radgan Zalian bevr borotebas sTesav.<br />
albaT SenianebSi bevrs baqibuqob: _<br />
xom xedavT, ra Zlieri var! im veSapi<br />
ssrk-s Tavkacma _ nikitam stalins, veraferi<br />
mouxerxa, me ki is generalisimusi,<br />
sanagveze movisroleo. Seni titulis<br />
kacma unda icodes: mkvdari kacis<br />
moreva, es arakacobaa.<br />
miSa, mitingebis darbevisas mSvidobiani<br />
xalxis daxocvasac ki SeiZleba<br />
gamarTleba mouZebno da Tqva: _ me xalxis<br />
daxocva ar mibrZanebiao, magram am<br />
udides borotebas verafers ver mouxerxeb,<br />
radgan stalinis Zeglis gadagdeba,<br />
Seni uSualo brZanebiT Sesrulda,<br />
amitom Sen xar Zalian boroti, rasac<br />
Cveni xalxi arasodes ar gapatiebs!<br />
vin misca miSa saakaSvils imis uf-<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
miSa yovelgvar istoriuls<br />
da erovnuls gvispobs<br />
leba, presis gamsaRebeli jixurebi<br />
aeRo da is gaWirvebuli xalxi, romelic<br />
im jixurebis saSualebiT irCenda<br />
Tavs, ulukmapurod daetovebina da presis<br />
muSakebisaTvis Seekveca is cicqna<br />
xelfasebi, rasac isini didi SromiT<br />
iReben. miuxedavad imisa, rom Tbilisis<br />
mTeli Jurnalisturi sazogadoeba jixurebis<br />
aRebis kate<strong>gori</strong>uli winaaRmdegi<br />
iyo, miSam yvela maTgani fexebze<br />
daikida da Tavisi boroti ganzraxva mainc<br />
Seasrula. gaWirvebuli xalxis jixurebis<br />
adgilebze TavianTi 20 aTasebad<br />
gayiduli jixurebi Caamwkvrives.<br />
albaT, es 20-aTasiani jixurebi, maT<br />
Cadges, vinc Tavis droze xalxis mier<br />
Seqmnili saxalxo qoneba, gaTaxsirebulma<br />
da veragma SevardnaZem am qonebis<br />
Semqmnelebs kuTvnilebisamebr ki ar<br />
misca, aramed waarTva da yovlad ukanonod<br />
Tavis axloblebsa da nacnob-megobrebs<br />
dauriga. aseve elmavalmSenebeli<br />
qarxnis iq momuSave 2594 aqcioners,<br />
romelTac es 300 milionad Rirebuli<br />
qarxana, ekuTvnoda, waarTva da<br />
Tavisi veraguli - #594 gankargulebiT,<br />
aCuqa vinme zurab cincaZes. gaTaxsirebulma<br />
SevardnaZem am veraguli gankargulebiT,<br />
is gaamilionera da 2594<br />
qarxnis amSenebeli aqcioneri ki fexebze<br />
daikida da maTxovrad aqcia.<br />
vin misca miSa saakaSvils imis ufleba,<br />
saqarTvelos mTeli inteligenciis<br />
moTxovnisaTvis angariSi ar gaewia<br />
da qarTveli xalxis usayvarlesi reJisori<br />
_ robiko sturua, Tavisi kaprizebis<br />
gamo Teatridan gaanTavisuflebina?!<br />
vfiqrob, mkiTxveli Zvel mentalobaSi<br />
ar CamomarTmevs, Tu vityvi: saakaSvilis<br />
mier yovel fexis nabijze nalan-<br />
ZRi komunistebi ufro humanurebi da<br />
demokratebi iyvnen, vidre saakaSvili<br />
Tavisi nacebiT.<br />
vin misca miSa saakaSvils imis ufleba,<br />
sazogadoebis nebis gareSe qalaqisTvis<br />
ekologiurad yvelaze sufTa<br />
transporti _ tramvai da troleibusi,<br />
romlebic Cemma da Cemze ufrosma Taobebma<br />
didi garjiT, SromiT da ofliT<br />
naSovni fuliT Seqmnes miSas uvargis<br />
transportad CaeTvala da erTi xelis<br />
mosmiT, aTasobiT tona es transporti,<br />
asobiT tona spilenZis sakontaqto xazebi,<br />
eleqtruli wevis qvesadgurebi,<br />
aTiaTasobiT tona liandagebi, sakontaqto<br />
anZebi, zogierTebis asiaTasobiT<br />
fulis gasakeTeblad daeWra da jarT-<br />
Si Caebarebina?<br />
vin misca ujiSo saakaSvils imis<br />
ufleba, saqarTveloSi dabadebul da<br />
gazrdil qarTvel, kacs, saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeobas arTmevdes, mere iZulebuls<br />
xdides, TxovniT mimarTavdes rom<br />
Cems miwa-wyalze, saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba<br />
aRmidgineo da amazec uars eubnebodes,<br />
iseT qvelmoqmed, mecenat da altruist<br />
eris kacs, ro<strong>gori</strong>c biZina ivaniSvilia<br />
kacma, romelmac saqarTvelos<br />
aRorZinebas da qarTveli xalxis fizikur<br />
gadarCenas, sruliad uangarod, miliard<br />
orasi milioni rom daaxarja.<br />
SeiZleboda aseTi udidesi mamuliSvilisTvis<br />
miSas Tavisi ,,kreslos” SesanarCuneblad<br />
da Tavisi mzakvruli ambiciebis<br />
dasakmayofileblad misTvis moqalaqeoba<br />
rom waerTmia?! es xom udidesi<br />
cinizmi, abuCad agdeba da mTeli<br />
eris fexiT gaTelvaa?! mas rom mosaxleobis<br />
70%-ma sTxova, rom ivaniSvilisaTvis<br />
moqalaqeoba aRedgina, magram<br />
amdeni xalxis Txovnac, fexebze daikida<br />
da ivaniSvils moqalaqeoba ar aRudgina.<br />
misi aseTi Tavxeduri damokidebuleba<br />
Cveni xalxisadmi da misi RvarZlianoba,<br />
mis somxur warmoSobaSi veZebo.<br />
vin misca saakaSvils imis ufleba,<br />
rom xalxi Tavisi neba-survilebis mixedviT<br />
acxovros? man, konstituciaSi<br />
cvlilebebi ise Seitana, rom xalxi fexebze<br />
daikideben. wesiT, Tavisi azrebi<br />
jer presaSi unda gamoeqveynebina proeqtis<br />
saxiT da mere xalxs jer, SeniSvnebi<br />
unda Seetana, vinainidan am kanonebiT<br />
unda vicxovroT, mis SeqmnaSi<br />
Cvenc unda migveRo monawileoba, rogorc<br />
es xdeboda miSasgan nalanZRi komunistebis<br />
dros.<br />
vin misca miSa saakaSvils imis ufleba,<br />
rom is, permanentulad gvispobdes<br />
ganaTlebasa da mecnierebis sistemas<br />
saqarTveloSi?!<br />
da bolos: miSas usaqmuri parlamentarebi,<br />
ise mieCvivnen parlamentSi<br />
kviraSi erTxel gaseirnebas savarZleb-<br />
Si, sajdomebis cveTas da _ mxolod<br />
,,knopkaze” xelis daWeraSi 5 da 10<br />
aTasebis miRebas, rom axla maT iqidan<br />
avtomatis miSveriTac veRar gamohyri.<br />
gaiRviZeT xalxo, gons modiT da<br />
maT umsgavsobaze xma amoiReT!!! ram dagabeCavaT<br />
da ratom uyurebT maT avkacobas<br />
ase gaSterebulebi?!<br />
avTandil qurxuli _<br />
inJineri<br />
13
14 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
vaxtang xaCilava<br />
_ isini gamodian Waobidan da nislidan,<br />
rom sxeuli SeiZinon,<br />
mere ki iseve ukan brundebian _<br />
ambobda sociologi emzar jgerenaia,<br />
romelic sinamdvileSi poeti iyo,<br />
magram man amis Sesaxeb araferi icoda,<br />
`isini gamodian Waobidan da nislidan~ _<br />
megrelebze ambobda jgerenaia,<br />
Tavadac megreli,<br />
romelic yovelgvari gaugebrobis Tavidan<br />
asacileblad,<br />
xSir-xSirad xazs usvamda,<br />
rom megreli ki aris,<br />
magram, ra Tqma unda, qarTvelia.<br />
es daaxloebiT ise JRerda,<br />
rogorc zurab Jvanias sityvebi:<br />
_ me var qarTveli, maSasadame me var evropeli!<br />
_ me var megreli, maSasadame, me var qarTveli!<br />
_ brZanebda<br />
jgerenaia,<br />
romlis gvaric SeiZleba sityva jgirs<br />
ukavSirdebodes,<br />
SeiZleba jgrags...<br />
asea Tu isea,<br />
meore megrelis, giorgi gvaxarias mier<br />
gadacema `fsiqo~-Si<br />
miwveuli jgiri koCi jgerenaia<br />
micvalebulebis gasvenebis da dakrZalvis<br />
im ritualebze saubrobda,<br />
romlebic, mavanTa da mavanTa azriT,<br />
epoqis konteqstidanaa amovardnili<br />
da civilizebuli eris prestiJs<br />
ar Seesabameba.<br />
_ migviReben ki Cven, aseTebs, evrokavSirSi? _<br />
ikiTxa gogi gvaxariam.<br />
(jgerenaia Tu megrelic aris<br />
da imave dros aris qarTveli,<br />
gvaxaria mxolod qarTvelia,<br />
romelic ise laparakobs samegreloze,<br />
rogorc aTasobiT kilometriT<br />
daSorebul istoriul samSobloze,<br />
romelTanac araferi akavSirebs, garda gvarisa)<br />
hoda, am gvaxariam ikiTxa:<br />
_ migviReben ki Cven, aseTebs, evrokavSirSi?<br />
filmis reJisorma dagvaimeda,<br />
rom migviReben,<br />
radgan evropelebs araferi aqvT<br />
sawinaaRmdego<br />
Cveni micvalebuli<br />
Tundac erTi kvira gvesvenos saxlSi.<br />
arc imis winaaRmdegni arian<br />
isini<br />
micvalebuls pirsaxoci, saponi,<br />
pirsaparsi,<br />
jagrisebi (kbilis, tansacmlis)<br />
sunamoebi da sxva piradi moxmarebis<br />
sagnebi CavatanoT kuboSi.<br />
evropelebs arc is aSfoTebT,<br />
micvalebulis kubosTan<br />
qalebi rom xmamaRla mosTqvamen,<br />
kivian,<br />
loyebs ixoken,<br />
mamakacebi ki SublSi iSenen xelebs.<br />
evropelebi mSvidad uyureben Turme<br />
micvalebulisTvis saiqioSi<br />
cocxalTa da micvalebulTaTvis<br />
anu vixsnaT evrokavSiri!<br />
leqsi eZRvneba filmis `gadaeci Cems megobars, rom cocxali var~<br />
Cveneba-ganxilvis monawileebs da filmis reJisors. (sazRvargareT<br />
mcxovrebi qarTveli reJisoris nino kirTaZis dokumenturi filmi: `gadaeci Cems<br />
megobars, rom cocxali var~, mogviTxrobs micvalebulis gasvenebisa da dakrZalvis<br />
qarTul adaT-wesebze. filmi gadaRebulia samegrelos regionSi).<br />
myofi axloblebis saxelze<br />
werilebis gatanebis Tu<br />
zepiri informaciebis<br />
dabarebis tradiciasac,<br />
evropelebi arc imas aprotesteben,<br />
rom Cveulebrivi glexis,<br />
vinme bondos Tu Zabulis gasvenebaze,<br />
imdeni xalxi ikribeba,<br />
gegoneba, cnobili msaxiobi<br />
an politikosi gardaicvalao.<br />
evropelebis SeSfoTebas mxolod<br />
erTaderTi sakiTxi iwvevs:<br />
_ es aris drois problema!<br />
_ saidan da ratom gvaqvs Cven<br />
imdeni dro,<br />
rom micvalebulis sasTumalTan<br />
Svidi (xandaxan meti...)<br />
dRe-Rame vaTenoT? gaflanguli dro...<br />
uazrod gaxarjuli dro...<br />
roca yana gaqvs gasaToxni, Cai mosakrefi,<br />
Sen ki micvalebuls dastrialeb Tavze<br />
Svidi dRe-Rame,<br />
micvalebuls, romelsac verc moTqmiT da<br />
loyebis xokviT<br />
gaacocxleb,<br />
verc Sublze xelebis waSeniT.<br />
* * *<br />
`Cqimi sqvami odabade,<br />
sqanda breli miRu oragade~ _<br />
saidanRac Camesmoda es melodia,<br />
romelic gadacemaSi<br />
ar JRerda,<br />
magram is igulisxmeboda<br />
da nel-nela misrutavda,<br />
rogorc Tbili nisli,<br />
es nisli iyo axla Cemi sxeuli,<br />
xolo Waobi _ samSoblo,<br />
fexisgulebze rom agkvria<br />
da arsad ar giSvebs.<br />
* * *<br />
`vai Suri, sayvareli,<br />
Rura muSi mamarde re,<br />
rinaSi neba qordasni<br />
qianaSi muSi mafarTa re.<br />
vai, Suri sayvareli...<br />
Suri megrulad suls niSnavs,<br />
SurisZiebao rom vambobT,<br />
sulis Ziebas vgulisxmobT,<br />
mSobliuri saxlis gareT<br />
gardacvlilis<br />
sulis Ziebas,<br />
romelsac Sin unda dabruneba<br />
da gza ver gamougnia.<br />
* * *<br />
is qarafidan gadaiCexa...<br />
nislis brali iyo yvelaferi _<br />
imis nacvlad rom moexvia,<br />
pirdapir wavida da nislSi Secura.<br />
mihqroda axla sikvdilisken<br />
da gverdiT dedis kivili mosdevda:<br />
_ xviCa, nana squa...<br />
_ xviCa, nana squa...<br />
is micuravda nislSi, sikvdilisken<br />
da kidev mamisken,<br />
romlis gadidebuli suraTi,<br />
mTvareSi Cadgmuli,<br />
engurs gaRma, mTis wverze idga<br />
da TiTqos Tavisken uxmobda.<br />
... meore dRes jer misi sxeuli waasvenes,<br />
xolo Semdeg misi suli<br />
waiyvanes<br />
sulis maZieblebma _<br />
Zafi manqanis saWes miabes,<br />
is Zafs gamohyva<br />
da kvlav daiwyo gza Sinisken.<br />
* * *<br />
evropisagan gansxvavebiT<br />
samegreloSi fiqroben,<br />
rom micvalebulis pativiscema<br />
sakuTari Tavis pativiscemaa.<br />
radgan Senc momavali<br />
micvalebuli xar<br />
da rogorc axla mas moeqcevi,<br />
ise mogeqcevian Senc,<br />
roca gardaicvlebi.<br />
es Seni<br />
gasvenebacaa.<br />
repeticia Seni momavali gasvenebisTvis,<br />
sadac Sens<br />
rols sxva asrulebs.<br />
Sens nacvlad sxva wevs kuboSi,<br />
magram mis gverdiT Senc xar,<br />
Senc mis gverdiT igulisxmebi.<br />
micvalebulisTvis ki ara,<br />
SenTvis idgmeba<br />
es dramatuli speqtakli.<br />
es Sen garwmuneben,<br />
xom xorcis ubralo naWeri<br />
ki ar xar,<br />
aramed xati RvTisa,<br />
romelic ki ar kvdeba,<br />
aramed gardaicvleba<br />
da aqidan, droebiTi<br />
miweris adgilidan,<br />
axla iq gadadis,<br />
samudamo sacxovrebelSi.<br />
SenTvis, cocxlisaTvis<br />
mRerian am simRerebs.<br />
Sen garwmuneben,<br />
rom maSinac ar mokvdebi,<br />
roca mokvdebi.<br />
ubralod, sxvagan miemgzavrebi.<br />
amieridan Sen aqac xar da iqac,<br />
Sen xar mekavSire,<br />
casa da miwas Sua,<br />
zemo da qvemo dasaxlebas Sua,<br />
maradiuli mekavSire,<br />
maradiuli informatori...
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
* * *<br />
rogorc vTqviT,<br />
evropelebs ukvirT<br />
ratom vflangavT<br />
ase uazrod dros,<br />
ratom vxarjavT<br />
ase uazrod da umiznod.<br />
magram evropelebisgan gansxvavebiT<br />
samegreloSi fiqroben,<br />
rom siyvarulisTvis<br />
gaxarjuli dro<br />
ar SeiZleba umizno da uazro iyos.<br />
marTalia,<br />
is arc evroebSi gamoixateba,<br />
arc dolarebSi,<br />
arc larebSi,<br />
magram, samagierod,<br />
iseT auwonav simdidres qmnis,<br />
ro<strong>gori</strong>c gaxlavT siyvaruli.<br />
es iseTi simdidrea,<br />
rasac mets gascem,<br />
miT ufro bevrdeba,<br />
rac mets daxarjav,<br />
miT ufro meti gibrundeba ukan<br />
esec biznesia,<br />
siyvarulis didi biznesi,<br />
sadac Cadebuli<br />
TiToeuli wuTi<br />
maradisobad gibrundeba.<br />
* * *<br />
_ migviReben Cven, aseTebs,<br />
evrokavSirSi? _<br />
kiTxulobda gvaxaria<br />
modiT, Cven TviTon miviRoT<br />
es evrokavSiri CvenTan,<br />
samegrelos romelime<br />
mivardnil sofelSi<br />
gavxsnaT siyvarulis<br />
biznesakademia<br />
da SevaswavloT<br />
siyvarulis marketingi<br />
da menejmenti<br />
amaT hgoniaT,<br />
dolars plus dolari<br />
ufro metia,<br />
vidre siyvaruls<br />
plus siyvaruli.<br />
modiT, gavxsnaT samegrelos<br />
romelime sofelSi siyvarulis<br />
biznesakademia da vixsnaT<br />
evrokavSiri!<br />
vixsnaT evrokavSiri!<br />
davexmaroT mas,<br />
xelaxla aRmoaCinos Tavisi Tavi<br />
da Tavisi momavali aq,<br />
samegreloSi...<br />
* * *<br />
rodis mixvdebian isini,<br />
rom saavadmyofos<br />
palataSi mitovebuli deda<br />
mitovebuli RmerTia,<br />
romelic umadurma Svilebma<br />
martoobisTvis gaswires.<br />
xelnakravi RmerTi,<br />
Seuracxyofili RmerTi,<br />
unugeSebeli RmerTi,<br />
romelic kidev erTxel rwmundeba<br />
Tu ra saSinelia adamiani,<br />
romelic fulis mkeTebel<br />
robotad iqceva<br />
isini daRupaven dedamiwas<br />
da Tu vinmes SeuZlia<br />
maTi gadarCena SeuZlia<br />
Zabulis, lebardedan,<br />
an Tundac mzeqalas, barisaxodan,<br />
gnebavT, naTelas mulaxidan.<br />
2004 w.<br />
aRsrullebis erovnullma biurom<br />
Tbillisis saapellacio sasamarTllos mier<br />
2012 wllis 20 ivniss gacemulli saaRsrullebo<br />
furcllebis aRsrullebis<br />
uzrunvellyofis mizniT, biZina ivaniSvillis<br />
aqciebis 100%-ss ss “qarTu<br />
jgufSi”, aqciebis 100%-ss ss “qarTu<br />
bankSi”, agreTve aqciebis 21.7%-ss ss<br />
“progres bankSi” yadaRa 26 ivniss daado.<br />
Tumca, rogorc saqarTvelloSi<br />
myofma ucxoelli aqcionerebis advokattebma<br />
ganacxades, biZina ivaniSvilli ar<br />
aris “qarTu jgufis” aqcioneri da<br />
“qarTu jgufis” aqciebis gayidva<br />
ucxouri investticiebis eqspropriaciad<br />
Sefasdeba. SegaxsenebT, rom “qar-<br />
Tu jgufs” 16 aqcioneri hyavs, aqedan<br />
14 ucxouri kompaniaa, 2 – qarTulli.<br />
“qarTu jgufSi” aqciebis fllobas Tavad<br />
ivaniSvillic uaryofs. vesubrebiT<br />
laSa nacvliSvils.<br />
_ batono laSa, rogor imoqmedebs<br />
mosaxleobis ganwyobaze xelisuflebis<br />
es gadawyvetileba?<br />
_ reaqcia unda iyos mSvidi, gawonasworebuli.<br />
aq aris erTi safrTxe -<br />
Cven SecdomaSi ar unda Segviyvanos saakaSvilma<br />
- rom TiTqos Cven unda vreagirebdeT<br />
mis gamowvevebze, TiTqos is<br />
ganapirobebs dRis wesrigs. es ase araa.<br />
amis iluziis Seqmnis SesaZlebloba<br />
mas ar unda mivceT.<br />
yvelaferi, rasac is akeTebs - dayadaRebidan<br />
dawyebuli auqcionis CaTvliT,<br />
TavisTavad aris reagireba imaze,<br />
rom biZina ivaniSvili da „qarTuli<br />
ocneba“ imdenad dawinaurda politi-<br />
kur procesSi, rom saakaSvils<br />
kriminaluri qmedebebiT reagirebis<br />
garda, araferi darCenia. is<br />
reagirebs biZina ivaniSvilis aSkara<br />
upiratesobaze, upiratesobis<br />
flangi Tvisobrivad ki sxvagan<br />
aris. es aris sasikvdilod ganwiruli<br />
sxeulis konvulsiebi. Cven<br />
gvmarTebs mxolod simSvide, mizandasaxuloba,<br />
provokaciebs ar<br />
ayola, movlenaTa analizi ara<br />
emociis, aramed inteleqtis xarjze.<br />
Cven Cveni dRis wesrigi<br />
gvaqvs - sajaro da maJoritareb-<br />
Tan Sexvedrebi, saerTaSoriso<br />
TanamegobrobasTan TanamSromloba.<br />
gamarjvebisaTvis “ganwiruli“ bi-<br />
Zina ivaniSvilis inauguraciis<br />
dRe axlovdeba, romlis CaSlasac<br />
cdilobs marginaluri, destruqciuli<br />
opozicia saakaSvilis saxiT.<br />
Cven, qarTvel xalxs, xelisuflebis<br />
wyaros, ukve gvyavs faq-<br />
tobrivixelisufali. Sesabamisad,<br />
xelisuflebaSi<br />
myof ivaniSvils<br />
da „qarTul ocnebas“<br />
meti Tmenis<br />
valdebuleba mar-<br />
Tebs am mavneblebis<br />
provokaciul<br />
qmedebebze. Cven Tu<br />
imave registrSi<br />
vupasuxeT, isini<br />
ufro mets avneben<br />
qveyanas.<br />
_ biZina ivaniSvilisamarTlebriv<br />
sivrces ar gascdenia, Tumca<br />
qarTuli samarTliT, mas dReisaTvis<br />
ar aqvs moqalaqeoba, misi, iseve, rogorc<br />
koaliciis wevri partiebis finansuri<br />
wyaroebi gadaketilia...<br />
_ kate<strong>gori</strong>ulad ver dageTanxmebiT,<br />
imaSi, rom mas moqalaqeoba ar<br />
aqvs. moqalaqeoba, romauli gagebiT,<br />
qveynis msaxurebaa, ase, rom, inatros<br />
aseTi moqalaqeoba saakaSvilma. finansebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT saubaric ubralod<br />
araadekvaturia, radgan ivaniSvili<br />
eleqtoraluri trilioneria. gajiutebulisaakaSvili<br />
xalxis ndobas<br />
ver daayadaRebs, es<br />
aqtivi xuTi sxvadasxva<br />
xelisuflebis Secvlas<br />
eyofa. ra materialuri<br />
resursi<br />
dasWirdeba, teqnikurad<br />
rom gavaformoT<br />
ivaniSvilis xelisufleba,<br />
amis saSualebas<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi<br />
Cven TviTon<br />
movZebniT.<br />
_ nulovani tolerantobis<br />
politikis<br />
gagrZelebis Sesaxeb<br />
jer Ss ministris moadgilem,<br />
Semdeg Tavad<br />
prezidentma isaubra.<br />
am gancxadebas Zalian male mohyva sam-<br />
Tavrobo cvlilebebi. rogor SeZlebs<br />
xelisufleba am politikis ganxorcielebas?<br />
_ 1945 wlis mart-aprilSi, hitleris<br />
bunkerSi igegmeboda moskovis<br />
aReba. „netar arian...“, _ ver vityvi,<br />
ufro - giJi Tavisufalia. maT SeuZliaT<br />
avnon qveyanas, gazardon xelisuf-<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
lebidan wasvlis fasi, _ vgulisxmob<br />
moqalaqeebis janmrTelobas, sicocxles,<br />
ra fass gadavixdiT, es Cvens gonierebazea<br />
damokidebuli.<br />
samTavrobo konfiguracias - vin<br />
dawinaurda, vin daqveiTda, SesaZloa<br />
JurnalistebisaTvis hqondes mniSvneloba,<br />
magram politikuri procesisTvis<br />
amas aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs.<br />
xomaldi daRupvisTvisaa ganwiruli,<br />
procesi dasrulebulia. ar arsebobs<br />
Zala, romelic ereva xalxs. sazogadoebis<br />
daculobis recepti - solidarobaa.<br />
_ im SemTxvevaSi Tu biZina ivaniSvili<br />
ityvis, rom arCevnebi gayalbdeba<br />
da mosaxleobas aqciisken mouwodebs,<br />
kvlevis mixedviT dadebiTi pasuxi<br />
27%-ma gasca, 53-ma uaryofiTi, 19%-ma<br />
ki ar icis”, - ganacxada luis navarom.<br />
ramdenad mizanSewonilia NDI-s pirvel<br />
kvlevaSi SekiTxvis amgvari formulireba?<br />
saakaSvili xalxis<br />
ndobas ver daayadaRebs<br />
_ sazogadoebrivi azris kvleva da<br />
misi mravalmxrivi analizi, ukanasknel<br />
wlebSi, yvelaze popularul<br />
sportis saxeobad iqca, rogorc ityvian:<br />
“Âñå ëýäè äåëàþò ýòî”. sociologia<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi, sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris kvlevidan, sazogadoebriv azrze<br />
zogjer uxeSi, rig SemTxvevebSi<br />
ki filigranuli zemoqmedebis iara-<br />
Rad gadaiqca. originaluri ar viqnebi<br />
Tu vityvi, rom gamrudebuli sarkis<br />
principi ZalaSia da amis bevri<br />
magaliTi arsebobs, Tundac imave endeai-s<br />
mier gamocxadebuli 10%-iani<br />
mxardaWeris mqone, qarTuli ocnebis<br />
grandiozuli aqciebi dedaqalaqsa da<br />
regionebSi.<br />
Tu Sedga sazogadoebrivi konsesusi<br />
imis Taobaze, rom arCevnebi gayalbda<br />
da amoiwura yvela legaluri sa-<br />
Sualeba am gayalbebuli Sedegebis koreqtirebisa,<br />
maSin rogor moiqceva moqalaqe,<br />
romelsac arCevani mohpares?<br />
SeiZleba, am SemTxvevaSi nordikuli<br />
temperamentis adamianma Tqvas, Semdgom<br />
arCevnebs davelodebio, magram saqarTveloSi,<br />
darwmunebuli var, umravlesoba<br />
gamova quCaSi, raTa daicvas saku-<br />
Tari arCevani da Tu saqarTvelos moqalaqeebis<br />
umravlesobis SegrZnebebi<br />
daemTxveva politikuri lideris, am<br />
SemTxvevaSi ivaniSvilis ganwyobebs,<br />
darwmunebuli var 27%-iT es aRar<br />
Semoifargleba. daTa TuTaSxias perifrazi<br />
rom gavakeToT, veravin gaayalbebs<br />
ise arCevnebs, rom es moqalaqeebma<br />
ar igrZnon... rac Seexeba revolucias,<br />
yvelgan da yvela dros, revoluciis<br />
avtori da Semoqmedi xelisuflebaa<br />
da ara opozicia... revolucionerebi<br />
mudam versalSi sxedan.<br />
nino fircxalava<br />
<strong>15</strong>
16 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
ramdenime dRis win, albaT,<br />
yvelam movismineT, didi xnis megobrebis<br />
miSa saakaSvilis da vano<br />
merabiSvilis `kadrs miRma~<br />
privatuli saubari, roca prezidentad<br />
wodebuli adamiani premier-ministrs<br />
eubneba: `bolomde miawvnen,<br />
ai, `imenna~ bolomde Sesces<br />
debatebSi~-o! magram, rodesac<br />
evroparlamentSi gamarTuli debatebis<br />
Sinaarsi TiToeuli moqalaqisTvis<br />
sajaro gaxada qarTulma<br />
nacionalurma Tu `nacionalurad~<br />
komerciulma, e.w. opoziciurma<br />
arxebma _ Zalian, Zalian Sevwuxdi<br />
da mogaxsenebT, ratom: rogorc<br />
gairkva, Turme evroparlamentarebi<br />
saqarTveloSi arCevnebiswina<br />
viTarebis ganxilvas saer-<br />
Tod ar apirebdnen, magram `madam<br />
kolontais~ da `hercogi taleiranis~<br />
daJinebuli moTxovniT, debatebi<br />
iZulebiT mainc dauwyiaT!<br />
ki, batono, daiwyes, magram iqamde<br />
koaliciis `diplomatiuri~ misiebi<br />
aRma-daRma rom dafrinavdnen,<br />
xarjavdnen seriozul Tanxebs da<br />
mTel saqarTvelos da sakuTriv<br />
ivaniSvils rom aimedebdnen _ `saakaSvilis<br />
mxardamWeri dasavleT-<br />
Si aRaravin darCao~ _ raSia saqme?<br />
anu,<br />
evroparlamentSi gamarTuli<br />
iZulebiTi debatebis<br />
dros, koaliciis<br />
lobisturi kompaniis<br />
misi delegaciisa da<br />
TviTon lobistebis<br />
`warmatebuli garja~<br />
romeli evroparlamentaris<br />
gamosvlaSi daafiqsireT?<br />
ra gamodis _<br />
maT mier ZalisZalad<br />
mopovebulma debatebma<br />
`nacionaluri moZraobis~<br />
sasargeblod Sedegi<br />
ratom moitana?!<br />
Tqven rogor fiqrobT, es Sem-<br />
TxveviTia?! Cemi Rrma rwmeniT, ar<br />
aris SemTxveviTi, radgan aseTi<br />
`gadacdomebi~ am emisrebis Cveuli<br />
`triukia~! marTali giTxraT,<br />
sruliadac ar aris sagangaSo,<br />
ras ityvian evroparlamentarebi<br />
arCevnebis wina debatebSi, magram<br />
piradad CemTvis Zalian sagangaSo,<br />
iyo litvis yofili prezidentis,<br />
sabWoTa `kgb~-sTan saeWvod daaxloebuli<br />
Cinovnikis, vitautas<br />
landsbergisis, ramdenime miniSneba,<br />
romelic man zogadad Tqveni<br />
mxardamWerebis, ese igi opoziciurad<br />
ganwyobili adamianebis misamarTiT<br />
gamoTqva _ am adamianebis<br />
mxridan Tavisuflebis SezRudvaze<br />
saubari warmoadgens nacistur<br />
da faSistur Tavdasxmebs, anu,<br />
rogorc isini uwodeben, araqar-<br />
Tul, aramarTlmadideblur da<br />
umciresobebis interesebis damcvel<br />
mTavrobaze! ucnauria, magram<br />
aseTi siZulvilis teqstebs dadebiTad<br />
xvdeba araTu rusuli, aramed<br />
evropeli liberalebis nawilic!<br />
`faSistur-nacionaluri~<br />
saqarTvelo da branwi<br />
`paTologiis muzeumidan~<br />
gamodis, vitautas landsbergisisTvis,<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobaSi<br />
Tuki erovnuli, qarTuli<br />
da marTlmadidebluri mowodebebi<br />
gaismis _ es faSizmi da nacizmia!<br />
anda, roca umciresobaTa Seviwroebaze<br />
saubrobda, amxanagi<br />
landsbergi eTnikur jgufebs gulisxmobda<br />
Tu maT, visac rusTavelis<br />
saxelobis gamzirze ukanalebisa<br />
Tu enebis qneviT `gacunculeba~<br />
ewadaT?!<br />
rasakvirvelia, landsbergisi<br />
swored am ukanasknelebs gulisxmobda,<br />
Torem saqarTveloSi eTnikuri<br />
jgufebis araTu Seviwroebis,<br />
aramed Seuracxyofis faqtebic<br />
ki ar gamovlenila, Tu ar<br />
CavTvliT mavanTa mier inspirirebul<br />
da Semdeg xelisufalTa mier<br />
mxardaWeril gegmiur omebs<br />
afxazeTsa Tu samaCabloSi!<br />
evroparlamentarebis gamosvlebSi<br />
sxva uamravi braldebac gaismoda,<br />
magram, amjerad absoluturad<br />
xazgasmuli is iyo, rom<br />
Cveni `faSistur-nacisturi~ Tavdasxmebia<br />
maTTvis yvelaze saSiSi<br />
da Cemi werilis mTavari gzavnilic,<br />
swored am `saSiSroebiT~<br />
aris nakarnaxevi!<br />
rogorc mogexsenebaT, saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis udides<br />
nawils `nac. moZraoba~ da<br />
mixeil saakaSvili imitom<br />
ezizReba, rom igi marTlmadideblobas,erovnul-tradiciul<br />
zneobriv dogmebs<br />
da zogadad, qarTul mentalobas<br />
ebrZvis! agreTve<br />
ezizReba is adamianebic, romelTa<br />
monawileobiT jer<br />
gldanis, Semdeg ki feriis<br />
eklesiebi daingra! fexiT<br />
gaiTela xatebi, saeklesio<br />
inventari, xolo sasuliero<br />
pirebi mravali wliT<br />
sapyrobileSi aRmoCndnen!<br />
rogorc Tavad uyureT,<br />
am uRmerTobis wamxaliseblebi<br />
evroparlamentis `avtoritetul~warmomadgenlobaSic<br />
mravlad yofilan<br />
da es is evropelebi brZandebian,<br />
romelnic `gei~ merebis,<br />
`gei~ prezidentebis Tu<br />
lesbosel-seqtantebis aqtiuri<br />
mxardaWeriT iwoneben Tavs da, ra<br />
gasakviria, aseTive TavgamodebiT<br />
ukve dRes, saakaSvilis `demokratiul<br />
winsvlebs~ rom lobirebdnen,<br />
ara?!<br />
sxvisi ra mogaxsenoT, magram<br />
piradad me mimifurTxebia aseTi<br />
evroparlamentisTvis da asgzis<br />
mimifurTxebia im `verdiqtisaTvis~,<br />
romelic maT ramdenime dRis<br />
win qarTvel xalxs gamoutanes _<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis sasargeblod!<br />
`evropa ar iyideba!~,<br />
_ SemogviTvales maT da<br />
Cvenc davijereT, ara?<br />
ra sasaciloa...<br />
evropa rom Zalian<br />
didi xnis win iyideboda<br />
da iyideba dResac, oRond<br />
sakuTari interesebidan<br />
gamomdinare, msofliom<br />
kargad uwyis!<br />
Cemgan SeiZleba ar geswavlebodeT,<br />
magram SegaxsenebT, rom<br />
jer kidev nicSe `beber meZavs~<br />
uwodebda mas!<br />
pirveli msoflio omis dam-<br />
Tavrebis Semdeg osvald Spengleri<br />
werda: `evropa, rogorc idea<br />
mokvda, es aris evropis daisi!~<br />
cnobili amerikeli filosofosi<br />
pikimir soronecini ki Tanamedrove<br />
dasavleTze ase wers:<br />
`Tanamedrove dasavleTi es aris<br />
paTologiis muzeumio~, magram ra<br />
TavSi vixliT Tundac geniosi<br />
nicSes mosazrebas evropis Sesaxeb,<br />
Tuki Cvens did moZRvars, Cvenive<br />
nasroli tyviiT moklul<br />
ilia WavWavaZes ar gavixsenebT?<br />
ilia ambobda: `ras<br />
izamT, roca evropis politikaSi<br />
arc samarTlianobas,<br />
arc zneobas<br />
kuTvnili adgili ar<br />
uWiravs da yovelive gamorCenasa<br />
da angariSs<br />
eqvemdebareba~! ufro<br />
metic, ilia WavWavaZe,<br />
iseve rogorc qarTvelebis,<br />
evropelTa znis<br />
Sesaxebac siRrmiseul<br />
ganmartebas akeTebs da<br />
ambobs: `raki evropazed<br />
midgeba saqme, aq naZirala<br />
grZnobani evropis<br />
politikisa Tavs wamohyofen!~<br />
evropelebis, miT umetes ki<br />
evropeli politikosebis mankieri<br />
znis Sesaxeb yvelaze zustad mainc<br />
didi britaneTis yofili premier-ministri<br />
loid jorji saubrobda:<br />
`aki, xSirad gvixdeba Se-<br />
Tanxmeba yaCaRebTanac da kacis<br />
mkvlelebTan?! Cveni qveynis interesebidan<br />
gamomdinare, Cven kaci-<br />
WamiebTanac gavmarTavT vaWrobas!~-o,<br />
da es sityvebi loid<br />
jorjma mas Semdeg Tqva, rac<br />
bolSevikuri ruseTis daJinebuli<br />
moTxovniT, saqarTvelos damoukidebeli<br />
respublika 1920 wels<br />
`erTa ligaSi~ ar miiRo evropam!<br />
am `verdiqtiT~ guldamZimebuli,<br />
samSoblosken momavali qarTveli<br />
diplomati zurab avaliSvili<br />
ambobs: `kaciSvili Cveni patroni<br />
Cvenive Tavis garda dedamiwis<br />
zurgze aravin megulebao, hoda,<br />
rodesac Cvensa da dasavleTis<br />
saerTo Rirebulebebze vsaubrobT,<br />
gavfrTxildeT, radgan Cveni eTnosisaTvis<br />
`sxvisi Wiri, Robes<br />
Cxiri~ arasodes ar yofila da<br />
miT umetes, ar yofila maSin, roca<br />
saqme angarebas exeboda!<br />
Cvensa da dasavleTis Rirebulebebs<br />
Soris is gansxvavebacaa,<br />
rom: `sxvisi puri, sxvisi Rvino~<br />
arasodes gvyvarebia da araTu dampyrobeli<br />
omebi ar gviwarmoebia,<br />
aramed piriqiT, yovelTvis mtris<br />
mogeriebaSi viyaviT mTeli Cveni<br />
arsebobis manZilze!<br />
rac Seexeba Cveni da evropaamerikeli<br />
jariskacebis erTobliv<br />
brZolas eray-avRaneTSi, esec istoriuli<br />
SeuTavseblobaa, radgan<br />
isini kacobriobis gamanadgurebeli<br />
`TeTri sikvdilisaTvis~ arian<br />
iq da ise, rom maT arCevanis sa-<br />
Sualebac ara aqvT.<br />
zneobrivi gansxvaveba<br />
ki is gaxlavT,<br />
rom qarTveli meomari<br />
kaci, imitom<br />
rom vaJa-fSavelas<br />
qveyanaSia gazrdili<br />
_ `vaJkaco, Cemgan<br />
moklulo, RmerTma<br />
gacxonos mkvdario~,<br />
_ ase fiqrobs<br />
da amerikeli jariskaciviT,<br />
vinc mTeli<br />
msoflios dasanaxad<br />
Tavze ar aSardavs<br />
Tavisi sam-<br />
Soblos damcvel e.w. mojaxed-patimrebs!<br />
`evropa ar iyideba!~, _ araer-<br />
Tgzis gaisma evroparlamentSi,<br />
magram korufciaSi araerTgzis<br />
SemCneuli maTias iorSi, nuTu saqarTveloSi<br />
mxolod `demokratiis~<br />
dasacavad da mis dasabandeblad<br />
mogzaurobda?!<br />
rogorc araerT arCevnebze dadasturda,<br />
`nac.moZraobis~ neobolSevikurma<br />
Semadgenlobam, evropeli<br />
Tu amerikeli damkvirveblebis<br />
xelSewyobiT, ager ukve 8<br />
welia saakaSvilis xelisuflebas<br />
uZlevelobis SegrZneba sruliad<br />
logikurad gauCina, magram, imitom<br />
rom evropa da sruliad dasavleTi<br />
mxolod sakuTari interesebidan<br />
gamomdinare moqmedebs,<br />
mas patara saqarTvelos `demokratiuloba~,<br />
`evrointegracia~ da<br />
a.S. savaraudod, mxolod sakuTari<br />
interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
ar unda sxdomeboda, radgan saqarTvelo<br />
mTeli Tavisi resursebiT,<br />
arc navTobmompovebeli qveyana<br />
gaxlavT da arc msoflios gamokveba<br />
SeuZlia soflis meurneobis<br />
ayvavebis SemTxvevaSic ki!<br />
aba, maS, ratom unda icavdes<br />
ase TavgamodebiT saakaSvilis xe-<br />
lisuflebas igive evropa da, Tu<br />
gnebavT, amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebi? ratom unda eSinodeT<br />
maT qarTveli `oligarqebis~ da<br />
`nacistur-faSisturi~ qarTuli<br />
sazogadoebisa?<br />
saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi<br />
`moRvawe~ Cinovnikebis Sesaxeb sazogadoebam<br />
bevri ram icis, magram,<br />
neba miboZeT SegaxsenoT, rom<br />
2003 wlis 23 noembris politikuri<br />
farsi, rusuli specsamsaxurebis<br />
da SeerTebuli Statebis<br />
administraciis erToblivi gegma<br />
gaxldaT da amdenad, evropa, roca<br />
saakaSvilis qeba-didebiT iqcevs<br />
Tavs, Tqven rogor fiqrobT,<br />
romeli qveynis `Tavis mosaqonad~<br />
iqceva ase?!<br />
amerikidan evropaSi araTu<br />
eleqtroenergia, aramed erTi miligrami<br />
bunebrivi airis eqsporti<br />
ar xdeba da netav, romeli<br />
qveyanaa is, romlis `keTil nebazecaa~<br />
damokidebuli TiToeuli<br />
evropelis gaTboba-ganaTeba?<br />
aki, werda jorji loidi:<br />
`diax, Cven kaciWamiebTanac gavmar-<br />
TavT vaWrobas Cveni interesebidan<br />
gamomdinareo?!~<br />
hoda, axlac vaWrobs<br />
evropa-amerika ruseT-<br />
Tan da kbilebiT icavs<br />
ruseTis rCeul mkvlel<br />
saakaSvils, raTa ruseTma<br />
gazis miwodeba<br />
ar Seuwyvitos maT da<br />
erT mSvenier dRes evropis<br />
dedaqalaqebSi 1 Reri<br />
SeSa, uceb 6 evro ar<br />
Rirdes! (sxvaTa Soris,<br />
es faqti ramdenime wlis<br />
win mTelma msofliom<br />
naxa!).<br />
rogorc ikveTeba, oqtombris<br />
arCevnebi marTlac gadamwyveti iqneba<br />
saqarTvelosTvis da<br />
Tuki ivaniSvilis persona,<br />
misi finansebi da<br />
guliswadili iqiTken<br />
iqneba mimarTuli, aqcios<br />
saqarTvelo isev<br />
qarTul saxelmwifod,<br />
maSin misi politikuri<br />
mokavSire ara evropaamerika,<br />
aramed sruliad<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleoba<br />
gaxdeba da ai, ma-<br />
Sin gamoCndeba, vin vis<br />
Sesc...ms debatebSi!<br />
ueWveli gamarjveba mxolod<br />
am SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba da ara<br />
ise, rogorc es zogierT politikoss<br />
hgonia. `erT sul da erT<br />
xorc~ Serwymis SemTxvevaSi<br />
_`mdinareni aRma daiwyeben denas~,<br />
xolo saqarTvelo, iseve rogorc<br />
uwin, Wkviani da qveyanaze mofiq-<br />
rali xelmwifis droSis qveS gamarjvebas<br />
gamarjvebaze izeimebs<br />
da Tavis samSoblos kvlav `nikofsiidan<br />
darubandamde~ gadasWimavs.<br />
Cemi qarTuli `ocneba~<br />
es gaxlavT, magram<br />
aseve meocnebeba, saku-<br />
Tari TvaliT vixilo<br />
moRalate bobolebis<br />
dasjac, radgan swored<br />
maTi gamoisobiT aris,<br />
rom Cemi samSoblo am<br />
ukuneTidan vera da ver<br />
gamodis da yovel 4 weliwadSi<br />
erTxel axalaxal<br />
teritoriebs vkargavT!<br />
ai, sul es iyo!<br />
irine gogosaSvili
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
muxran maWavariani<br />
orbeliani<br />
ludoviko<br />
meToTxmetesTan<br />
alodines da…<br />
meTxuTmete<br />
kacad Sevida…<br />
cameti ludoviko<br />
kedlidan iyureba;<br />
cicas efereba<br />
lui meToTxmete;<br />
xalxs xma daukarga<br />
mefis siyruema,<br />
mefes xalxze ufro<br />
kata ecodeba.<br />
xelmwifem<br />
sabas naubari<br />
moismina ra,<br />
– oh…<br />
oh…<br />
oh…<br />
oho!… –<br />
Tqva da<br />
TiTqos kidec inana.<br />
magram amiTi<br />
araferi<br />
gamovida ra<br />
(sabas xma<br />
rodi waagavda<br />
knavils katisas);<br />
rac Seitana,<br />
iseve is gamoitana<br />
im saxelganTqmul<br />
versalidan<br />
elCman qarTlisam.<br />
– wvima ar ari!<br />
sabas kaba<br />
dausvela ram?!<br />
– Tovli ar ari!<br />
sabas Tavi<br />
gauTeTra ram?!<br />
– yinva ar ari!<br />
sulxan-sabas<br />
akankalebs ra?!<br />
– ram daasvela?!<br />
ram daTeTra?!<br />
ra akankalebs?!<br />
saqarTveloa<br />
misTvis wvimac,<br />
Tovlic da yinvac!..<br />
…mze eTxoveba<br />
albaT axla<br />
turfa tanZias…<br />
es sicxadea,<br />
sulxan-sabav,<br />
Tu fantazia?!<br />
dedis cremlebi<br />
yayaCos da balaxebs<br />
awvims,<br />
alvis CeroSi<br />
stiris deda<br />
Svils motacebuls,<br />
stambolSi<br />
Svili dedas stiris, -<br />
hyidian ymawvils<br />
(sWvreten jvaris win<br />
wmida ninos –<br />
muxlze dacemuls).<br />
s a b a<br />
– ramdens afaseb<br />
mag pataras? –<br />
hkiTxa sparsulad<br />
sabam sparsels da<br />
mouTmenlad<br />
eloda pasuxs.<br />
– ui, qarTveli<br />
megona da<br />
sparsi yofila, -<br />
warmosTqva balRma,<br />
yuri mohkra ra<br />
sabas sparsuls.<br />
– ara, patarav,<br />
qarTveli var,<br />
qarTveli,<br />
gesmis?<br />
– ui, dedasTan<br />
wamiyvane,<br />
wamiyvan, Zia?.. –<br />
sabas cremlebi<br />
moeZala,<br />
atirda kaci, -<br />
Tavis balRoba<br />
gaaxsenda,<br />
Tavis tanZia.<br />
viT es ymawvili –<br />
saqarTveloc<br />
ase mcirea,<br />
saqarTvelosac,<br />
viT am ymawvils,<br />
ase hyidian;<br />
safrangeTs vTxovoT:<br />
gviSveliso,<br />
– sasaciloa!<br />
Seni vxtangi<br />
ludovikos<br />
fexze hkidia.<br />
ase fiqrobda<br />
sulxan-saba<br />
xeljoxiani;<br />
mxardamxar sabas<br />
is pawia biWi<br />
mosdevda…<br />
– mogwyinda gana<br />
unayofod,<br />
elCo, yiali?!<br />
– guls nu gaitex!<br />
– muxa kvlavac<br />
Seimoseba!<br />
rogorc qarTveloba iyo saamayo<br />
did sabWoeTSi, ase svanoba iyo saamayo<br />
kavkasiis mTianeTSi da saqar-<br />
TveloSi.<br />
Cven gvesaxeleba winaparTa mier<br />
ganvlili gza: mterTan-mtroba, moyvaresTan-moyvroba,<br />
stumris Rirseulad<br />
miReba-gacileba, qveynis erTguleba,<br />
saqarTvelos mefeTa samsaxurSi<br />
yofna.<br />
svaneTis roli ganuzomlad didia<br />
saqarTvelos istoriaSi. amis<br />
Sesaxeb didi qarTveli meistorieni<br />
uxvad gvawvdian masalebs.<br />
samSobloc damsaxurebulad ufasebda<br />
qveynis am regions erTgul<br />
samsaxurs. gansakuTrebiT bagrationTa<br />
dinastia.<br />
damoukideblobis dakargvis Semdeg<br />
ramdenjerme aujanydnen svanebi<br />
mefis ruseTs. konstantine dadeSqelianma<br />
gubernatori gagarinic ki<br />
gamoasalma sicocxles mefeTa qalaq<br />
quTaisSi.<br />
ar minda gavazviado, svanebi mar-<br />
Tlac svanobdnen. arc aravisze batonobdnen,<br />
arc aravis ibatonebdnen.<br />
ra xdeba dRes?<br />
vwuxvar, magram Cveni dRevandeli<br />
dumili, yvelafris Segueba, rac<br />
Cvens Tavs xdeba, ukvirs yvelas, ukvirs<br />
danarCen saqarTvelos. gaqra<br />
miTi svanebis vaJkacobis Sesaxeb,<br />
Cvenc dagvaSines, xmas ver viRebT,<br />
CaviketeT, vimalebiT, viTom verafers<br />
vxedavT, araferi gvesmis?<br />
mavani enebi amboben, svanebi erTmaneTs<br />
ar patioben wyenas, sxvagan<br />
da sxvasTan, dRes didi veraferi<br />
raindebi ariano.amis mTqmelni mwared<br />
cdebian, marto komanis brZolac<br />
sakmarisia svanTa simamacis<br />
dasturad.<br />
RmerTma damifaros, vinmes vaqezebde<br />
SurisZiebaze, magram, roca<br />
axalgazrda kacs mogiklaven xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi da arc<br />
mogibodiSeben, erTi aqcia mainc xom<br />
unda gagvemarTa. sandro girgvlians<br />
mxolod dedam, qalbatonma irine<br />
enuqiZem upatrona da daakvda kidevac<br />
usamarTlobas.<br />
svanebi vdumdiT.<br />
gaugonari vandalizmi Caidina<br />
xelisuflebam sofel ecerSi afrasiZeebis<br />
ojaxis mimarT. `didma sardalma~<br />
giorgi baramiZem, visac<br />
zurgs ori aTasi policieli umagrebda,<br />
mZime artileriidan grigaliseburi<br />
cecxli gauxsna evgeni<br />
afrasiZis saxls, mokles mama-Svili<br />
evgeni da omex afrasiZeebi. goCa da<br />
Smagi afrasiZeebi patimrobaSi aiyvanes.<br />
am operacias xelisufleba<br />
didi xnis ganmavlobaSi warmatebuls<br />
uwodebda. mogvianebiT, cru<br />
informaciaze dayrdnobiT, me-19 saukunis<br />
saZvale gaTxares, Zvlebi<br />
tomrebSi Cayares da TbilisSi Camoitanes.<br />
eqspertizis Catarebis<br />
Semdeg ki isev sofel ecerSi daabrunes<br />
da gamgeobis SenobasTan dayares.<br />
radgan svaneTi Seuvali, mkacri<br />
tradiciebis damcvel mxared aris<br />
miCneuli, uniWo xelisuflebas<br />
egona am operaciiT avtoritets<br />
aimaRlebda da mosaxleobaSi SiSs<br />
danergavda. mogvianebiT, roca gairkva,<br />
rom ugzo-ukvlod dakarguli<br />
axalgazrda levan kalaZe arakacebis<br />
mier sul sxva adgilas iyo<br />
mokluli, prezidents specoperaciis<br />
uniWo avtorebi rom gaekicxa,<br />
albaT, ase ar gamwvavdeboda es ur-<br />
TierToba.<br />
svanebi arafrad Cagvagdes, xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs da parlaments<br />
bodiSi an sinanulis sityva<br />
mainc dascdenodaT am faqtTan<br />
dakavSirebiT.<br />
qarTuli (svanuri) CveulebiT,<br />
micvalebulTa saZvalis Sewuxeba<br />
mkrexelobis tolfasi danaSaulia.<br />
aseT danaSauls xandazmuloba ara<br />
aqvs.<br />
Zneli saTqmeli ar aris, ra Sefasebas<br />
miscems istoria saqarTvelos<br />
amJamindel xelisuflebas am<br />
qmedebebis gamo. arc isaa Zneli misaxvedri,<br />
Tu ra bedi eliT im adamianebs,<br />
romlebmac fexqveS gaTeles<br />
qarTuli tradicia. sawyeni is aris,<br />
rom am barbarosobis Camdenni bolo<br />
xanebSi xSirad adian svaneTSi, iq<br />
ki maT svanuri kubdariTa da xaWapuriT<br />
umaspinZldebian.<br />
svanebma arc maSin amoviReT xma,<br />
roca ori saxelovani mandilosani<br />
mzevinar jafariZe da neli naveriani,<br />
romlebic kacebis dumilis gamo,<br />
iZulebulni gaxdnen, Tavad aRemaRlebinaT<br />
xma xelisuflebis Tavgasulobis<br />
gamo, specnazelebma daapatimres.<br />
ar avtexo gangaSi gmiri qalbatonis<br />
nora kvicianis mimarT Se-<br />
TiTxnili braldebiT dapatimrebaze?<br />
mas sazogadoebis nawilma dam-<br />
saxurebulad Searqva qarTveli Jana<br />
darki. qalbatonma noram da misma<br />
ojaxma bevri ibrZola dalis<br />
xeobis SesanarCuneblad da sasurvel<br />
Sedegebsac miaRwies. man da<br />
misma Svilma _ baCuki arRvlianma<br />
SeZles mSvidobiani urTierTobis<br />
damyareba afxazur mxaresTan. aman<br />
gaaRiziana araerovnuli xelisufleba.<br />
daiwyes maTze braldebebis<br />
SeTxzva, bolos, emzar kvicianze<br />
ganawyenebulma iaraRis ukanono<br />
Senaxva warudgines bralad qalbaton<br />
noras da daakaves im iaraRis<br />
gamo, romelic xelisuflebam Tvi-<br />
Ton dauriga adgilobriv mosaxleobas.<br />
amazea naTqvami qarTuli andaza:<br />
cxeni ver gaxedna da unagiri<br />
daamtvriao. nora kvicianma mravalgzis<br />
ganacxada uari Sewyalebaze<br />
da dResac patimaria. qalebma ki<br />
gvasaxeles svanebi, mgoni jeri mamakacebze<br />
midga.<br />
xelisuflebis mxridan kidev<br />
bevri Zaladobis faqti axsovT svanebs,<br />
adamianTa fizikuri Seuracxyofis,<br />
daCagvris da a.S.<br />
ra gvemarTeba? erTmaneTs rom<br />
arafers vpatiobT?<br />
am xelisuflebam ZirZvel qar-<br />
Tul miwas, dalis xeobas, jer saxeli<br />
Seucvala, _ daarqva `zemo<br />
afxazeTi~, Semdeg ki Cveni xalxi<br />
ZaliT gamoiyvana xeobidan da es<br />
mxare gaasxvisa. istoriuli faqtia,<br />
rom dalis xeobaSi svanebis garda<br />
arasdros aravis ar ucxovria. am<br />
mxares afxazebic svaneTs eZaxdnen.<br />
es Zveli misiminialebis miwaasvanTa<br />
winaprebis, razedac metyveleben<br />
rogorc qarTuli, ise ucxouri<br />
wyaroebi.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
cnobisTvis, afxazurma mxarem<br />
mravalgzis SemogviTvala svanebs<br />
xeobaSi, sakuTar miwaze, dabruneba.<br />
bevri dabrunda kidec, miuxedavad<br />
Cveni xelisuflebis kate<strong>gori</strong>uli<br />
winaaRmdegobisa (Zalovnebs gaZlierebuli<br />
saguSago aqvT gaxsnili<br />
WuberTan, raTa gadasasvleli gza<br />
gadauketos dabrunebis msurvelT).<br />
svanebi erT goj miwas ar Tmobdnen.<br />
sakar-midamo sazRvris odnav<br />
Secvlac xSir SemTxvevaSi sisxlis<br />
daRvriT mTavrdeboda. dRes ki xelsuflebam<br />
mTeli xeoba CamogvarTva<br />
da gaasxvisa.<br />
Cven amazec vdumvarT.<br />
hesebis mSeneblobis bums ayolilni<br />
xudonhesis mSeneblobas apireben.<br />
gvekiTxebian Cven, datborviT<br />
rom emuqrebian eklesiebs, winaparTa<br />
saflavebs, Tavi rom davaneboT am<br />
ekologiur cvlilebebs, rasac es<br />
hesebi gamoiwveven am mxareSi?<br />
axlac ar unda avimaRloT xma?<br />
arc qvemo qarTlSi Casaxlebuli<br />
svanebi arian karg dReSi, ar aZleven<br />
miwis flobis nebas, iq holandielebi<br />
sargebloben privilegiiT<br />
miwebis Sesyidvisas.<br />
svanebo! saTqmeli bevri gvaqvs,<br />
axla moqmedebaa saWiro, yvelam xma<br />
amoviRo, SiSi davZlioT, xedavT, es<br />
xelisufleba antiqarTulia, maSasadame,<br />
antisvanuricaa, rogorc iqna<br />
gamoCnda erovnuli Zala, romelic<br />
daupirispirda ukanonobas, umsgavsobas.<br />
Tqven kargad iciT, rom dumili<br />
yovelTvis ar aris oqro, zemoT Ca-<br />
svanebo! dumili<br />
yovelTvis ar aris oqro<br />
moTvlili nawilia im umsgavsobisa,<br />
rac dRevandelma xelisuflebam<br />
svaneTs da svanebs damarTa.<br />
aravin xmas ar viRebT, xom xedavT,<br />
aravis ar ainteresebs Cveni<br />
mdgomareoba. saqarTvelos aRmasrulebel<br />
xelisuflebaSi erTi warmomadgenelic<br />
ar gvyavs.<br />
albaT, gsmeniaT, svani parlamentarebi<br />
ar metyvelebeno, utyvebi<br />
ariano, dagvcinian. maT laparaki ki<br />
ician, magram radgan daniSnuli deputatebi<br />
arian, am xelisuflebaze<br />
Zvirs ver amboben, pirSi wyali aqvT<br />
Cagubebuli. gambedaoba ki marTla<br />
akliaT.<br />
megobrebo! Cveni cxovreba Cvenve<br />
unda SevcvaloT. upriani iqneba, Tu<br />
momavlis SenebaSi gamocdili, avtoritetuli<br />
ufrosi Taobis warmomadgenlebi<br />
miiReben aqtiur monawileobas.<br />
svaneTs uxsovari droidan uxucesTa<br />
sabWo ganagebda da es naTlad<br />
Cans qarTul da ucxour wyaroebSi.<br />
uxucesTa gadawyvetilebas veravin<br />
ver gadadioda da amitom mxareSi<br />
wesrigi iyo. svanma uxucesebma dResac<br />
unda Tqvan marTali sityva. ma-<br />
Ti rekomendaciiT unda dainiSnos<br />
orive raionSi gamgebelic, prokuroric<br />
da policiis ufrosic. uxucesTa<br />
mier warmodgenil pirovnebas<br />
ar unda daupirispiron sadeputato<br />
kandidati, arc xelisuflebam da<br />
arc opoziciam. maTi azri mosaxleobisaTvis<br />
misaRebia, radgan isini<br />
xatze arian daficulnio miukerZoeblobaze.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi mosaxleobaSi<br />
simSvide da wesrigi iqneba.<br />
arc gayalbebas eqneba adgili da<br />
mxareTa Soris qiSpsa da damdurebasac<br />
moeReba bolo, radgan uxucesebi<br />
yovelTvis saukeTesod uweven<br />
Suamdgomlobas.<br />
es wesi unda gavrceldes saqar-<br />
Tvelos yvela raionSi (amaze izrunebs<br />
saqarTvelos uxucesTa darbazi).<br />
amiT xalxic kmayofili iqneba<br />
da xelisuflebis mimarTac naklebi<br />
braldebebi iqneba. rac mTavaria, saqarTvelos<br />
sakanonmdeblo organoSi<br />
utyvni ki ara, eris rCeuli Svilebi<br />
moxvdebian.<br />
svanebo! mamapapurad SemouZaxoT<br />
`lileo~ da CavebaT saerTo erovnul<br />
ferxulSi.<br />
roland niJaraZe<br />
saqarTvelos uxucesTa darbazis<br />
aRmasrulebeli mdivani<br />
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xerxemals adamianis torsis<br />
centraluri Zvlovani sistemis<br />
mTavar RerZs uwodeben. “xerxemalSi<br />
gadatexvas”, (gadataniTi<br />
formiT), mowinaaRmdegis ganadgurebas<br />
niSnavs. ai, xerxemlis<br />
gamrudeba ki, rogorc gamocdilebiT<br />
viciT, sabolood kuzis<br />
amosvlas iwvevs. “kuzians ki samare<br />
gaasworebso”, _ naTqvamia.<br />
cnobili mkurnalisa da specialistis,<br />
manana Wyonias Teorias<br />
Tu daveyrdnobiT, xerxemali<br />
organizmis is mTavari RerZia,<br />
romelzec yvela danarCeni organoebis<br />
janmrTelobacaa damokidebuli.<br />
dRes, roca ukve<br />
TvalnaTlivad gamoikveTa, rom<br />
saakaSvils, “nacmoZraobasa” da<br />
mmarTveli gundis politikur<br />
reitings ivaniSvilis gamoCeniT<br />
aRudgeneli problemebi Seeqmna<br />
“magar miSad aRzevebulma” kacmac,<br />
maia nadiraZisgan “naconaluri<br />
moZraobis” da Tavad “mi-<br />
Sas xerxemalad” Seracxuli vano<br />
merabiSvilis persona gamowia<br />
politikur asparezze. imis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT, rom “kuzi samareSi<br />
swordeba”, rogor apirebs<br />
miSas “kuzebis gasworebas”<br />
“gaRletili vano”_ Zneli saT-<br />
qmelia? miTufro roca “es kuzi”<br />
rogorc xerxemlisa, “mis<br />
pirad kuzs”, “gamrudebuli<br />
xerxemlis Sedegad warmoqmnil<br />
Zvlovan wanazards” warmoadgens.<br />
Tumca “xerxemal vanos”<br />
Tavisi “xerxemlis gamrudebaca<br />
da kuzebic” ise uxvada hyofnis,<br />
rom ukve “gapremierebuli xerxemali<br />
da misi kuzi” (miSa)<br />
orive erTad, “orkuziani nacionaluri<br />
aqlemis” funqcias asruleben.<br />
“ rvawliani mmarTvelobis<br />
dapirebebis didi xurjiniT”<br />
isev mosaxleobis mosatyueblad<br />
daZrwian. “saqarTvelos<br />
mxsnelad”, “mesiis saTayvaneblad<br />
da gasamefeblad” misuli<br />
mogvebiviT, “oqros, gundruksa<br />
da murs” sTavazoben<br />
qarTvel xalxs.<br />
“xerxemal-mesiasac” da<br />
“qerubimad” (ufro swored<br />
farSevangad) adevnebuli<br />
misi “kuzi”(miSa)<br />
enasa da brtyel-brtyelebs<br />
ar iSureben, raTa<br />
“gamrudebuli xerxemlis<br />
lariviT sisworeSi” daarwmunon<br />
qarTveli kaci!<br />
nacmoZraobis “molaparake<br />
nacionalma TuTiyuSebmac”<br />
esao da vano<br />
viTom “sityvis kaciao”.<br />
hoda, (Tu saakaSvilis<br />
tyuilebis aRar gjeraT),<br />
radgan danapirebs es kaci<br />
yovelTvis asrulebs, axlac<br />
Segvisrulebso! visi idea da<br />
mofiqrebuli iyo biZina ivaniSvilTan<br />
“xerxemal merabiSvilis”<br />
figuris dapirispireba_<br />
Zneli saTqmelia. naklebsavarau-<br />
gadrekili xerxemali vano<br />
da misi kuzi miSa saakaSvili<br />
doa, rom saakaSvilis pirvelobis<br />
usazRvro ambiciis pirobeb-<br />
Si, mas sxvisi (gansakuTrebiT ki<br />
vanos) pirveloba TavisiT moesurvebinos!<br />
saxelis gatexvis<br />
Semdeg, “Tavis gatexvis win”,<br />
mas sxva gamosavali ubralod<br />
aRar hqonda. “nacionaluri saxeebidanac”<br />
viTom SedarebiT<br />
reitinguli da “sityvis kacic”<br />
amitom SearCies. Torem “vaniCkas<br />
saqmeni sagmironis” mqone kacs,<br />
ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg sxva<br />
SemTxvevaSi romeli WkuaTmyofeli<br />
wamoayenebda? “gaRletili<br />
xerxemalic” swored ivaniSvils<br />
rom daupirispires, amaze “gaRletili<br />
xerxemalisgan” ivaniSvilis<br />
winaarCevno programis<br />
sityva-sityviT dapirebebis gameorebac<br />
miuTiTebs. Tavis “mWevrmetyvelur<br />
gamosvlebSic” vanoze<br />
upiratesobis warmosaCenad<br />
Tavad miSasac xom araerTxel<br />
uRadavia “gaRletilze”?<br />
arc merabiSvilis<br />
bolo saparlamento<br />
gamosvla: “policias<br />
nacionalur moZraobaze<br />
maRali reitingi aqvso”<br />
_ iqneboda amis<br />
mizezi. unda vivaraudoT,<br />
rom merabiSvilis<br />
“gapremier-ministrebiT”<br />
saakaSvilma masze<br />
“maRali reitingis<br />
gaRletili konkurenti<br />
miaCoCa”, riTac dapirebebisa<br />
da tyuilebis<br />
Tqmis “nacionalebis<br />
winasaarCevno upiratesobac”<br />
axla merabiSvils<br />
“SeaCeCa xel-<br />
Si”. Tu “xerxemals gamouva”<br />
xom kargi, Tu ara da es dapirebebi<br />
“gamrudebuli xerxemlis<br />
kuzis tyuilebis xurjins” xom<br />
aRar miemateba? amitom “Zlevamosili<br />
gaRletilic”, romelic<br />
miSasgan gansxvavebiT arcTu sulelia,<br />
dgas axla da biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
winasaarCevno progamis<br />
“suflireba-dublirebiT” mosaxleobisTvis<br />
Tavis mowonebas<br />
eweva. daaxloebiT, “ori marine,<br />
ori giorgis asuli, ori fera-<br />
Zis msagvsad”. viciT, miSasi rom<br />
aRar gjeraT, magram oRond ivaniSvils<br />
nu miscemT xmas da aTjer,<br />
asjer mets mogcemT “gaRletili<br />
xerxemalio”. Cven ki,<br />
visac nacionalebis winasaarCevno<br />
tyuilebi araerTxel mogvismenia,<br />
gogebaSvilis “matyuara<br />
vanos ambavi” gvaxsendeba: “mgeli,<br />
mgelio”, vin icis, meramdened<br />
rom moatyua Tanasoflelebi.<br />
bolos ki, mgeli marTla<br />
rom movida- aRaravin daujera.<br />
imasac bevri SeamCnevda, ivaniSvilis<br />
gamoCenis Semdeg, (gamouvali<br />
mdgomareobis gamo), saakaSvili<br />
ukve “wyvil-wyvilad<br />
rom afrens mwyerebs”. imasac<br />
dainaxavdiT, rom Sexvedrebsac,<br />
am bolo dros, sul ufro xSirad<br />
studentebTan, sabavSvo ba-<br />
Ris bavSvebTan da axla ukve<br />
samSobiaroebSi _ CvilebTanac<br />
rom marTavs. zrdasruli da<br />
WkuaTmyofeli adamianebis Sexvedrebze<br />
moyvanac, “nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” ivaniSvilis gamoCenis<br />
Semdeg sul ufro da ufro<br />
uZneldeba. aRarc “yviTeli avtobusebiT<br />
bunebis wiaRSi gaseirneba”<br />
Wris da Cans, aRarc muqarebi.<br />
aseTma politikurma svlam<br />
bevri Caagdo sagonebelSi. “vano<br />
xalxis mxares dadga da miSam<br />
amitom CaaCoCao” _ ifiqra zogma.<br />
zogma saakaSvilisgan axal<br />
mTavrobaSi darCenis, garantiisa<br />
da Tavis gadarCenis gzebis Zieba<br />
dainaxa. zogma kidev (axalaias<br />
sisastikisa da maniakaluri<br />
midrekilebebis mcodnem) _ ar-<br />
Cevnebis gayalbebisas xalxis<br />
dasarbevad misi gamoyenebis survili.<br />
asea Tu ise, dRes biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis fexdafex, regionregion<br />
da sofel-sofel “gamrudebuli<br />
xerxemali vaniCka”<br />
da misi “kuzi” miSa aqtiur winaasarCevno<br />
kampanias atareben<br />
da yvelas imaSi arwmuneben, rom<br />
“Zlevamosili vano Tavisi kuzis”<br />
“lariviT swori”, “sarosa<br />
msgavsi” da zneobrivi principebiT<br />
“TovliviT spetaki” premier-ministria.<br />
is ki, rac “xerxemalma”<br />
Tavisi Zlevamosilebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi qarTveli xalxis<br />
Tavze moawia, mxolod<br />
Cveni “masobrivi sizmrisa<br />
da molandebis” Sedegia?!<br />
“wiklaur-Tavxeli-<br />
Zeebis piriT molaparake<br />
feisbuqelebisganac” aRiniSna,<br />
rom egec Tqven:<br />
“aki ambobdiT, “gaRletilma”<br />
laparaki ar<br />
iciso? vanos ki Turme<br />
“laparakic scodnia” da<br />
arc iseTi ena blua”,<br />
ro<strong>gori</strong>c gvegona?! “gaRletilis”<br />
metyvelebaSi<br />
gancdili transformaciac”<br />
imaSi gamoixata,<br />
rom Tu adre “pirSi moxarSuli<br />
kartofiliT saubrobda”<br />
da arc uazrobebis Tqmas aklebda,<br />
axla (Cans logopedebs<br />
kargad umuSaviaT) da SedareebiT<br />
danawevrebulad da gasagebad<br />
metyvelebs. “Zlevamosil vaniCkad”,<br />
karg organizatorad da<br />
“yuradRebian Sefad”<br />
cnobili “didi gaRletilic”<br />
ukve farTo masebis<br />
winac Cndeba da<br />
aRarc “fardis ukan”<br />
imaleba. “feradi revoluciebiT”<br />
mosuli<br />
premierebis bedic “vaniCkas”<br />
presis furclebidan<br />
araerTxel Seaxsenes.<br />
zoran jinjiCisa<br />
(iugoslaviis premierministri)<br />
da Jvanias<br />
magaliTebis (pirvelobisadmi<br />
saakaSvilis pa-<br />
Tologiuri miswrafebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT), fonze,<br />
albaT, arc yofil Zlevamosilsa<br />
da “gaRletils” uweria didi<br />
dro. Tu, rasakvirvelia, “vaniCka”<br />
Tavad aqeT ar apirebs mi-<br />
SasTvis daswrebas.<br />
rac Seexeba vanos “sityvis<br />
kacobasa” da danapireb “keTildReobas”,<br />
“kacobaca” da “xalxis<br />
keTTildReobaze zrunvac”<br />
merabiSvilma girgvlian_enuqiZeebis<br />
ojaxis gaubedurebiT, Svidi<br />
noembris aqciaze uiaraRo,<br />
xeleb aweul adamianebTan usastikesad<br />
gasworebiT, telekompania<br />
“imedis” dalewviT, 6 da 26<br />
maisis darbevebis<br />
magaliTze daamtkica!<br />
es xom isev<br />
is “xuWuWa da patara”<br />
vanoa, romelmac<br />
xan erT,<br />
xan meore uwyebaSi<br />
amdenxniani batonobiT<br />
imdeni qoneba<br />
daagrova “sarezervo<br />
mefed” mu-<br />
Saobisas, rom<br />
“oligarqobaSi”<br />
biZina ivaniSvils<br />
ki ara, SesaZloa<br />
bil geiTsac ar Camouvardeba?<br />
es<br />
swored is vano<br />
araa, vinc jer kidev<br />
“moqalaqeTa<br />
kavSiris” komitetisTavmjdomareobisas,germanelebisgan<br />
reestris<br />
dakompleqtebisTvis<br />
gadmoricxuli milionebiT<br />
qarTuli teritoriebis yoveli<br />
kuTxe-kunWuli aRwera da yvelaferi<br />
Seiswavla, Cveni istoriuli<br />
miwebis gayidva-gasxvisebisTvis<br />
nacionalebs winaswari<br />
baza xelSi rom sWerodaT? es<br />
vano ar iyo, vinc (gundis SigniT<br />
CaSvebis ambavSi, komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomareobisas), rusul<br />
presaSi Tavisi gundis lideris<br />
sawinaaRmdego gancxadebebi gaakeTa?<br />
aseT saqciels ki “sityvis<br />
kacebi da kai kacebi” ar sCadian.<br />
es is “sityvis kaci” araa,<br />
viszec mTeli saqarTvelo “aRSfoTebuli<br />
CurCulebda” imas,<br />
rom biZaSvilis gaupatiurebis<br />
mcdelobis gamo, jer kidev mar-<br />
Tla “gaRletili xerxemali”<br />
Tanasoflelebma sofel udedan<br />
gamoaZeves da mamida ifarebda?<br />
is “gaRletili vano” ar aris,<br />
romlis xelSewyobisa da SeTanxmebis<br />
gareSec “meore gaRletili”_<br />
oqruaSvili Tavisi uzarmazari<br />
qonebisa da milionebis<br />
saqarTvelodan gatanas ver SeZlebda?<br />
is “xerxemali vano” ar<br />
aris, romelic amdeni weli “ver<br />
xedavda” im yvelafers, raSic<br />
axla mxolod da mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />
sapirwoned miliardobiT<br />
investiciebis Cadebas gvpirdeba?<br />
es miliardebic qarTveli<br />
xalxis gaRletiT ar iSovnes<br />
man da misma “yavlgasulma mTavarsardalma”?<br />
an iqneb axla,<br />
Cvenganve waglejili fulis<br />
Cvenze daxarjvisTvis ar iTxovs<br />
Cvengan “xerxemali vano da misi<br />
kuzi” saarCevno xmebs? an imis<br />
Tu gjeraT vinmes, rom “sityvis<br />
kacma”, vinc qarTuli sasoflosameurneo,<br />
sasaZovre miwebisa da<br />
naTesebis ucxoelebze gasxvisebaSi<br />
“fasdaudebeli saqme gauke-<br />
Ta nacionalebs”_ axla “miwebgayidul<br />
sofelsa da glexs” me-<br />
urneobas auyvavebs? ra Tqma unda,<br />
wiklaurs, oCiaurs, TavxeliZes,<br />
CorgoleiSvils, nodias<br />
da “nacionalebis mematiane masxaras”<br />
amis “sjeraT”. sjeraT,<br />
radgan qarTuli saxelmwifoebrioba<br />
maT arc arasdros adardebdaT<br />
da sakuTari “gaRletili<br />
jibeebis amovsebaze” fiqrobdnen<br />
yovelTvis. Tumca qar-<br />
Tvel xalsa da maT, vinc “nacionalebis”<br />
yalb da flid moZraobaSi<br />
qarTveli xalxis mosaS-<br />
Tobad mosuli manqurTebi imTaviTve<br />
amoicno, arc manamade sjeroda<br />
maTi da arc axla.<br />
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quCaSi protestis dafiqsireba<br />
Cveul ambad iyo miCneuli da<br />
Tamamad SeiZleba imis Tqmac,<br />
rom saprotesto mitingebis<br />
`master klasebs~, swored saqarTvelo<br />
utarebda `moZme respublikebs!~.<br />
pirveli masStaburi manifestacia<br />
1978 wlis 14 aprils ga-<br />
marTa! am grandiozuli msvlelobis<br />
organizatori _ Tbilisis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetis<br />
studentebi da profesor-maswavleblebi<br />
gaxldnen, xolo<br />
protestis mizezi ki iyo `skkp~<br />
mTavrobis dadgenileba: qarTuli<br />
enis, rogorc saxelmwifo<br />
enis, Secvla, rusuli!<br />
albaT, yvelas gaxsovT, ra<br />
xdeboda maSin TbilisSi. didianpatarianad<br />
yvela quCaSi iyo gamosuli<br />
da kremlis Tavxedur-<br />
Sovinistur gamoxtomas, ro<strong>gori</strong><br />
erovnul-patriotuli, absoluturad<br />
samarTliani protestiT<br />
ewinaaRmdegeboda! magram,<br />
isic xom kargad gvaxsovs, rom<br />
maSindel, motivirebul momitingesa<br />
da dRevandels Soris<br />
uzarmazari gansxvavebaa? ufro<br />
sworad, maSindel qarTvelsa da<br />
dRevandel `daCmorebul~ qarTvels<br />
Sorisaa gansxvaveba, Torem<br />
problemebi maSinac da dResac<br />
TiTqmis erTi da igivea, mcire<br />
gamonaklisiT!<br />
erTaderTi, rac yofilma<br />
sabWoTa respublikebma Cvengan<br />
`ver iswavles~, ZmaTamkvleli<br />
dapirispireba iyo! e.i. maT imTaviTve<br />
gaacnobieres ra SarSic<br />
gaexveodnen da sakuTari nebiT<br />
araTu teritoriebs, aramed er-<br />
TmaneTsac dakargavdnen!<br />
gaxsovT isic, rom yofili<br />
sabWoTa respublikelebi, erTimeoris<br />
miyolebiT ise gaxdnen<br />
damoukidebeli suverenuli saxelmwifoebi,<br />
bevr maTganSi Tofic<br />
ki ar gavardnila da amitom,<br />
rogorc enobrivi TvalsazrisiT,<br />
ise ekonomikis da stabilurobis<br />
mxrivac, yvelaferi<br />
SeinarCunes!<br />
Cvenc SevinarCuneT<br />
raRac, oRond is ZirZveli<br />
zne, romlisganac<br />
vera da ver gavTavisufldiT:<br />
anu, erTmaneTis<br />
gautanloba da<br />
sakuTari samSoblos<br />
ngreva, amJamindeli _<br />
`es Cemi saqme ar aris<br />
_ZaxiliT!<br />
arada, zustadac<br />
rom Cveni saqme iyo _<br />
saqarTvelos dRevandeli<br />
e.w. `parlamentis~<br />
dadgenileba, romlis<br />
mixedviTac nebismieri<br />
tradiciuli Tu<br />
seqtanturi, religiuri<br />
jgufebi, marTlmadideblobasgauTanab-<br />
rda! agreTve, Cveni saqme<br />
iyo, gagveprotestebina<br />
separatizmis Semcveli<br />
`regionuli enebis~<br />
mzakvruli Canafiqri,<br />
magram gavaprotesteT,<br />
ro?<br />
aba, daakvirdiT ra xdeba<br />
dRes ukrainaSi? mTeli ukrainis<br />
masStabiT, mravalaTasiani mitingebi<br />
daiwyo _ rogor, gagvibedeT<br />
da zogierT qalaqebSi,<br />
rusul enas regionalur enad<br />
rogor gvTavazobTo?!<br />
anda, daakvirdiT ukrainisa<br />
da Tundac ruseTis saprotesto<br />
mitingebze upirvelesad ras usvamen<br />
xazs?<br />
momitingeebs pirvel<br />
mwkrivSi _ xatebi da is saeklesio<br />
droSebi moaqvT,<br />
romlebic maTTvis ara mxolod<br />
wmidaTawminda atributikaa<br />
aramed sakuTari, mar-<br />
Tlmadidebluri mrwamsis<br />
dadasturebac da, Tu gnebavT,<br />
mTavari gzavnili masonuri<br />
msofliosTvis _<br />
araferi SegeSaloTo!<br />
CvenTan? CvenTan `nuras<br />
ukacravad~, _ rogorc amas<br />
saaka ambobs da amitomacaa<br />
yvelaferi ise midis, rogorc<br />
Tavad saakas Svils unda!<br />
rusuli enis regionalur enad<br />
gamocxadebis kanonproeqtis ganxilvas,<br />
ukrainul parlamentSi,<br />
anu `rada~-Si, araTu cema-tyepa,<br />
aramed parlamentis Tavmjdomaris,<br />
gvarad litvinis nebayoflobiT<br />
gadadgomac mohyva! xolo<br />
maT, vinc ZirSive gaacnobiera am<br />
kanonproeqtis veragoba _ is deputatebi<br />
quCaSi gavlen, zustad<br />
erT saaTSi ki TiTqmis mTeli<br />
ukraina daiZra saerTo poziciis<br />
dasacavad!<br />
ai, Zmao, xalxi!<br />
aba, miTxariT _<br />
azerbaijanuli da somxuri<br />
enebi, regionalur<br />
enebad rom gvifeSqaSes`saakaSvileb-<br />
ma~_ vinmes protesti,<br />
an parlamentSi, anda<br />
quCaSi, gamouxatavs, an<br />
inglisuri ena `meore<br />
mSobliuris enis~ aspeqtSi<br />
rom Segvtenes _<br />
tyuilia?<br />
aba, erTi wuTiT warmoidgineT<br />
ukrainis `radas~, religia-<br />
TaSorisi Tanasworobis kanoni<br />
mieRo da marTlmadidebluri kievisaTvis<br />
aqeT eqnia TiTi _ tolerantulebi<br />
iyaviT, ra moxdeboda?<br />
anda, igive ruseT-<br />
Sic rom mieRoT es kanoni,<br />
Camomjdariyo<br />
aleqsi II savarZelSi,<br />
gverdiT moesva rusuli<br />
`sodi~, `kudi~ da<br />
danarCenebi, SeSineboda<br />
evrokavSiris Tu<br />
sxva saxelmwifoebis<br />
muqaris _ marTlmadidebluri<br />
ruseTi ar<br />
iquxebda?!<br />
iquxebda ki ara, qvas<br />
qvaze ar datovebda da<br />
Tavisi qveynis religias<br />
kbilebiT daicavda!<br />
ukraina quxs,<br />
ai, ukrainelebi ki ukve kbilebiT<br />
icaven sakuTar enas da,<br />
rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, kievi<br />
axali revoluciis molodiniT<br />
cxovrobs, ukve imitom, rom<br />
maTTvis principulad mniSvnelovania<br />
ena, religia da sakuTari<br />
qveyana, anu mamuli!<br />
dRevandeli prezidenti<br />
ianukoviCi `radas~ axal vadamdel<br />
arCevnebze alaparakda, magram<br />
ukraineli xalxi araTu axali<br />
parlamentis arCevnebs, jer,<br />
upirvelesad, ianukoviCis impiCments<br />
iTxovs, xolo Semdeg vadamdel<br />
saprezidento arCevnebs!<br />
didi albaTobiT _ ukraine-<br />
li xalxi araTu `regionaluri<br />
rusuli enis~ winaaRmdeg miaRwevs<br />
sawadels, aramed aseve didi<br />
albaTobiT, Tavisi qveynis<br />
pirvel pirsac male gadaayenebs<br />
da airCevs imas, visTvisac ukraina,<br />
ukraineli xalxi da ukrainuli<br />
ena iqneba umTavresi!<br />
Cven? _ Cven ar unda vimitingoT!<br />
Cven? _ Cven ar unda CamovyaroT<br />
xidan foTlebi!<br />
Cven? _ Cven ar SeiZleba rame<br />
vukarnaxoT `wminda sinods~!<br />
Cven? _ Cven saqarTvelos<br />
parlamentis ukanono dadgenilebebs<br />
mSvidad unda SevxvdeT!<br />
Cven? _ Cven ar SeiZleba moviTxovoT<br />
gayalbebuli arCevnebis<br />
SedegTa anulireba!<br />
Cven? _ Cven ar `gvekadreba~<br />
araTu vadamdeli arCevnebis<br />
moTxovna, aramed saakas impiCmentic<br />
ki!<br />
Cven? _ Cven saerTod yvelaferi<br />
agvikrZales da amitomac<br />
gvkadreben aseve yvelafers jer<br />
`Sinauri~ inaurebi, xolo Semdeg<br />
`inaurebis~ Sinaurebi!<br />
nu vimitingebT, nu aRvSfoTdebiT<br />
da nurc gavcofdebiT, batono!<br />
da, amiT rasac miviRebT<br />
_`ager~ Tqven da `ager~ Cven!<br />
irine gogosaSvili<br />
P.S. aRniSnuli mosazreba<br />
ukve dawerili mqonda, roca<br />
`wminda sinodis~ istoriuli<br />
`gadawyvetilebis~ Sesaxeb Sevityve.<br />
kerZod is, rom sasuliero<br />
pirebs masobrivi TavSeyris,<br />
anu mitingebsa da demonstraciebze<br />
misvla ekrZalebaT!<br />
marTlac `saSuri~ gadawyvetilebaa<br />
`mamebo~ verafers ityvi!<br />
magram patriarq SiolaSvils<br />
minda vkiTxo: _ amis Semdeg arc<br />
xelisuflebis Tavyrilobebze<br />
ivliT Tqven da Tqveni `wminda<br />
saqarTvelo dums...<br />
sinodi~, Tu es gadawyvetileba<br />
mxolod xelisuflebis moZule-<br />
Ta Tavyrilobebze vrceldeba?<br />
da erTic _ netav, xalxis<br />
gverdiT rodis ideqiT, ro?<br />
eris da beris erTad dgomis<br />
problema rom aris, xatebi saqarTveloSi<br />
amitomac tirian!<br />
Tqven ki saakas Svilis wyalobiT,<br />
mudam mxiarul xasiaTze<br />
brZandebiT!<br />
nu idardebT, me ra menaRvleba?<br />
magram, RmerTis geSinodeT,<br />
RmerTis! imitom, rom eSmakis<br />
msaxuris sasargeblod miRebuli<br />
iqauri gadawyvetileba iqneba<br />
is ganaCeni, romelic aq, mi-<br />
waze, Cvens mier ki ara, aramed<br />
`iq~, zeviT iqneba miRebuli da<br />
Semdeg verc giorgi-eduard SevardnaZe<br />
giSveliT da verc mi-<br />
Sa-griSa saakas Svili, gamigeT?<br />
exla, modiT da damwyevleT!<br />
Tumca, ra?<br />
Tqvens arc wyevlas aqvs Zala<br />
da arc locvas, radgan saqarTvelo<br />
am ubedurebidan gamodis<br />
ki ara, piriqiT ukunSi mieqaneba!<br />
xolo, Tuki sabolood ar<br />
gavnadgurdiT _ es Tqveni ki<br />
ara, WeSmaritad morwmune Savosani<br />
berebis sadReRamiso locvebis<br />
damsaxurebaa, romlebsac<br />
aTonze da aq, mitovebul senakebSi<br />
aRavlenen uflisa da<br />
RvTismSoblis sadideblad!<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
xalxis azriT<br />
vano merabiSvilis mier<br />
gamoqveynebuli prioritetebi<br />
aRiarebaa imisa,<br />
rom dRevandeli mTavroba<br />
8 wlis ganmavlobaSi angrevda<br />
qveyanas.<br />
ras unda niSnavdes merabiSvilisgapremiereba?<br />
vanos politikuri<br />
ambiciebis gazrdas Tu<br />
saakaSvilis SiSs? merabiSvilis<br />
mxridan saakaSvilisTvis arasasurveli<br />
politikuri svlebis gakeTebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, faqtiurad<br />
miSa kargavda policiaze kontrols<br />
da Zalian martivad dasruldeboda<br />
nacionaluri moZraobis<br />
parpaSi. amave dros, Zneli<br />
warmosadgenia, ras izamen policielebi,<br />
romlebic vanoze loculoben<br />
da miSas dedas agineben.<br />
miSam amerikelebis rCeva<br />
xelisuflebis gadabarebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT<br />
gaiTvaliswina da xelisufleba<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis nacvlad<br />
vano merabiSvils gadaabara...<br />
erTi irakli oqruaSvilma<br />
gaitana qarTuli<br />
Rvino msoflio bazarze<br />
da meore vano merabiSvili<br />
dascems beWebze umuSevrobas.<br />
miuxedavad aTasi karuselisa,<br />
nacmos ministrebi<br />
erTmaneTSi saerTo<br />
enas yovelTvis moZebnian,<br />
samegobroc saerTo hyavT da<br />
interesebic. mTavaria, xelisufleba<br />
SeinarCunon, xolo amisTvis<br />
yvela miSaSkini yvelaferzea wamsvleli.<br />
Zalian susti var maTematikaSi<br />
da amixseniT,<br />
Tu RmerTi gwamT: Tu<br />
mosaxloebis erTi mexu-<br />
Tedi aris ukiduresad gaWirvebuli<br />
da iricxeba siRaribis zRvars<br />
qvemoTa siebSi, umuSevroba mxolod<br />
<strong>15</strong> procenti rogoraa, rogorc<br />
axla televizoridan meubneba<br />
eqsperti jafariZe?<br />
xooo, aq adre viRaca<br />
mimtkicebda, ar izams<br />
magas nikao.....a, batono<br />
Tu ar aris mzad..... axla<br />
merab sefaSvils Casvamen sia-<br />
Si da nika daukravs, merabi imRerebs:d:d:;d<br />
da sofelic aSendeba:d:d:d<br />
mere opozicidan zogi<br />
iWidavebs, zogi icekvebs da meti<br />
ki araferi unda soflis mSebelobas:d:d:d<br />
kanonebsac virtualurad<br />
miiReben da rogorc vanom<br />
Tqva, sxdomebis Catareba aRar iqneba<br />
saWirooo<br />
amerikeli pedagogebis<br />
feisbuqSi garyvnili<br />
fotoebi Tu ar aris<br />
danaSauli, qarTveli<br />
pedagogebis politikurad gansxvavebuli<br />
azri ratom isjeba?!<br />
dRes, am xelisuflebis<br />
moSorebisTvis, goneba,<br />
niWi da lavirebaa saWiro.<br />
vadrovoT am kacs.<br />
araa imis Citi, ver gaarkvios, vin<br />
vinaa. dRemde polixronios ZaxiliT<br />
davyavdiT opozicias. xan stadionze,<br />
xan ipodromze. parlament-<br />
Tan a. S. Zalian minda moveswro kacebs<br />
xelisuflebaSi! dalagebul<br />
qveyanas! televizias politikis gareSe<br />
da qalebs rusTavelze!<br />
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20 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
gardatexis asakSi organizm-<br />
Si mimdinare rTuli anatomiurfunqciuri<br />
cvlilebebi adekvaturad<br />
mozardis fsiqo-emociur<br />
sferozec aisaxeba. am asakSi<br />
isini yvelaze mwvaved ganicdian,<br />
roca sakuTari miswrafebebi<br />
harmoniulad ver erwymis realobas.<br />
dauZleveli winaaRmdegobebi<br />
maTSi gardatexis asakis<br />
nevrozis winapirobas qmnis.<br />
fsiqoemociuri Zvrebi gansakuTrebuli<br />
simwvaviT mimdinareobs<br />
dediserTa bavSvebSi, romlebic<br />
aRmoaCenen, rom ojaxSi erTaderTni<br />
da ganumeorebelni megobarTa<br />
Soris aseTive adgils<br />
ver imkvidreben.<br />
gardatexis asakSi<br />
gvitevs asTeniuri<br />
sindromi<br />
yvelaze xSirad es zogadi<br />
sisuste, anu asTeniuri sindromia,<br />
romelic gonebrivi da fizikuri<br />
Sromisas momatebul<br />
daRlilobaSi, fizikuri da<br />
fsiqiuri diskomfortis mudmiv<br />
SegrZnebaSi gamoixateba.<br />
mozardebs sruliad umizezod<br />
xSirad da swrafad ecvlebaT<br />
guneba, ase vTqvaT, mtirala<br />
ganwyobileba ueflebaT, uqveiTdebaT<br />
Sromis unari da yuradRebis<br />
koncentracia. zogi<br />
mexsierebis daqveiTebas uCivis;<br />
Sesabamisad, klebulobs skola-<br />
Si akademiuri moswrebis done,<br />
rac TviTdamkvidrebis mosurne<br />
mozards kidev ufro urTulebs<br />
mdgomareobas, masSi badebs pesimizmis,<br />
arasrulfasovnebis SegrZnebas,<br />
urTulebs Tanatoleb-<br />
Tan da axloblebTan urTierTobebs.<br />
Tavis tkivili<br />
bevri mozardi uCivis Tavis<br />
tkivils, romelic mudmiv xasiaTs<br />
atarebs da garemozea damokidebuli.<br />
igi gansxvavebuli<br />
lokalizaciisaa: Subli, warbi,<br />
kefa, mTlianad Tavi. tkivili<br />
xasiaTis mixedviT wneviTi, mopulsire<br />
da mqaCavia.<br />
kataraqta _ Tvalis brolis<br />
sruli an nawilobrivi SemRvreva,<br />
misi gamWvirvalobis dakargvaa.<br />
kataraqtisas Tvalis broli<br />
monacrisfro, monacrisfro-<br />
TeTri an rZisferi xdeba.<br />
ramdenime wlis winaT igi<br />
ZiriTadad xandazmulTa paTologiad<br />
miaCndaT; Tumca, samwuxarod,<br />
ofTalmologiuri praqtika<br />
gviCvenebs, rom es ase aRar<br />
aris _ dRes sul ufro xSiria<br />
daavadebis SemTxvevebi 35-40<br />
wlis adamianebSi.<br />
ra iwvevs brolis<br />
SemRvrevas<br />
arsebobs daavadebis Tandayolili<br />
da SeZenili, progresirebadi<br />
da araprogresirebadi<br />
formebi.<br />
Tandayolili kataraqta Cveulebriv<br />
ar progresirebs.<br />
mizezis mixedviT, SeZenili<br />
kataraqtis formebi ramdenime<br />
jgufad iyofa:<br />
_ asakobrivi _ moxucebul-<br />
Ta kataraqta.<br />
_ travmuli _ gamowveuli<br />
rogorc kontuziiT, ise uSualod<br />
Tvalis kaklis dazianebiT;<br />
_ garTulebuli kataraqtebi<br />
_ Tvalis sisxlZarRvovani<br />
garsis anTebis, glaukomis, ba-<br />
gardatexis asakis nevrozi<br />
momatebuli<br />
mgrZnobeloba garemo<br />
gamRizianeblebisadmi<br />
mozardebi Znelad itanen<br />
xmaurs, skolis zari usiamovno<br />
SegrZnebebs iwvevs, zedmet<br />
mgrZnobelobas amJRavneben sinaTlis,<br />
sunebis, Sexebisadmi. am<br />
faqtorTa gavleniT ara marto<br />
Tavis tkivili uZlierdebaT,<br />
aramed ofliandebian da sisxl-<br />
ZarRvovani reaqciebi uviTardebaT.<br />
Zilis darRveva<br />
Zilis dro mokldeba da igi<br />
mSfoTvare xdeba. erTni swrafad<br />
iZineben, magram maleve iRviZeben<br />
da uZiloba awuxebT, meoreni<br />
ki, piriqiT, Znelad iZineben<br />
da gamouZineblebi dgebian.<br />
dRis pirvel naxevarSi moTen-<br />
Tilebi arian da mxolod meore<br />
naxevarSi axerxeben mobilizebas.<br />
bevri maTgani ZilSi laparakobs,<br />
Tumca gamoRviZebis Semdeg<br />
ar axsovT, raze saubrobdnen.<br />
xSiria ZilSi siaruli, zogi<br />
maTgani dgeba, magidaze niv-<br />
Tebs alagebs, CanTaSi awyobs,<br />
rTul moZraobebs asrulebs,<br />
zogierTs aReniSneba RamiT Sar-<br />
duras pigmenturi gadagvarebisa<br />
da Tvalis zogierTi daavadebis<br />
Sedegad ganviTarebuli formebi.<br />
_ sxivuri kataraqtebi sxivuri<br />
energiiT brolis dazianebis<br />
Sedegia _ infrawiTeli,<br />
rentgenisa da radiaciuli gamosxivebis,<br />
es ZiriTadad profesiuli<br />
daavadebaa.<br />
_ toqsikuri _ am jgufs miekuTvneba<br />
wamlismieri kataraqta,<br />
romelicASesaZlebelia Camoyalibdeskortikosteroidebis,<br />
antimalariuli preparatebis<br />
an sxva medikamentTa xangr-<br />
Zlivad miRebis Semdgom.<br />
dis Seukavebloba,<br />
rac gansakuTrebiT<br />
amZimebs isedac arc-<br />
Tu saxarbieli mdgomareobas.<br />
gulsixlZarRovani<br />
moSlilobani<br />
gardatexis asak-<br />
Si xSiria gulis<br />
areSi tkivili, arc-<br />
Tu iSviaTad, aRmocenebuli<br />
tkivili<br />
marTlac emTxveva<br />
funqciur cvlilebebs<br />
gulis areSi _<br />
saymawvlo ariTmias, xSirdeba<br />
majiscema, gulSi imatebs funqciuri<br />
xmauri, arteriuli wneva<br />
xSirad icvleba... yovelive<br />
es iwvevs gangaSis SegrZnebas da<br />
qmnis imis niadags, rom mozards<br />
sikvdilis an sxva saxis fobiebi<br />
uCndeba. am dros mSoblebi<br />
gansakuTrebiT frTxilad unda<br />
iyvnen da mozardis TandaswrebiT<br />
kate<strong>gori</strong>ulad ar isaubron<br />
gulis daavadebebze da am mizeziT<br />
gamowveul sikvdilze.<br />
saWmlis momnelebel<br />
sistemaSi aRmocenebuli<br />
cvlilebebi<br />
zogjer Tavs iCens saWmlis<br />
momnelebeli traqtis sekretoruli<br />
da motoruli funqciis<br />
darRvevebi, rac vlindeba muclis<br />
areSi tkiviliT, madis daqveiTebiT,<br />
defekaciis darRveviT.<br />
Tavs iCens gardatexis asakis<br />
anoreqsia, romelic gansakuTrebiT<br />
xSiria gogonebSi, isini<br />
Tavs msuqan da arasrulfasovan<br />
adamianebad miiCneven da absoluturad<br />
uars amboben sakvebze.<br />
garkveuli periodis Semdeg Wama<br />
saerTod aRar SeuZliaT, miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom ukve Wamis<br />
survili aqvT _ aseTebs specialuri<br />
mkurnaloba esaWiroebaT.<br />
_ organizmis<br />
zogadi daavadebebiT<br />
gamowveuli<br />
kataraqta, romelic<br />
viTardeba<br />
Saqriani diabetis,hipoTireozis<br />
(viTardeba<br />
farisebri jirkvlis<br />
hormonebis<br />
deficitis Sedegad),<br />
Tirkmlis<br />
daavadebebisa da<br />
nivTierebaTa cvlis<br />
zogierTi<br />
darRvevis fonze.<br />
_ daavadebas<br />
mniSvnelovanwilad<br />
gansazRvravs<br />
memkvidruli niSan-Tvisebebic.<br />
rogor amovicnoT<br />
daavadeba<br />
pacientebs Cveulebriv awuxebT<br />
mxedvelobis daqveiTeba,<br />
rac damokidebulia brolis<br />
SemRvrevis xarisxze, intensivobasa<br />
da lokalizaciaze.<br />
brolis periferiaze SemRvrevisas<br />
mxedveloba TiTqmis ar<br />
ziandeba, Tumca rodesac igi<br />
centrSia lokalizebuli, Zlier<br />
azianebs mxedvelobas, sruli<br />
SemRvrevisas ki maT mxolod<br />
nevrozis dros xelsayreli<br />
garemos SeqmniT mozardebi yovelgvari<br />
Carevis gareSe gamodian<br />
mdgomareobidan, Tumca<br />
gardatexis asakis dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg (18-20 weli), Tu igive<br />
cvlilebebi SenarCundeba, aucilebelia<br />
kvalificiuri samedicino<br />
Careva.<br />
isteria da<br />
akviatebuli azrebi<br />
zogjer, yuradRebis miqcevis<br />
mizniT, mozardebSi xSiria<br />
isteriuli Setevebi: yvirian<br />
ganrisxebulni, ixeven tanze<br />
tansacmels, iglejen Tmas, amtvreven<br />
WurWels, ikbenen xelebs,<br />
ifurTxebian, Tavs esxmian sruliad<br />
udanaSauloebs. Setevis<br />
xangrZlivoba damokidebulia mayurebelTa<br />
raodenobasa da maT<br />
reaqciaze _ rac meti mayurebelia<br />
da TanagrZnobas grZnobs<br />
maTi mxridan, miT xangrZlivia<br />
Seteva, romlis Semdegac aRar<br />
iZineben, iwyeben Civilsa da<br />
moTqma-godebas.<br />
sinaTlis sibnelisgan garCevis<br />
unariRa aqvT.<br />
Tu pacienti ver aRiqvams<br />
sinaTles da ar SeuZlia sinaTlis<br />
wyaros mimarTulebis miTi-<br />
Teba, savaraudod, mas Tvalis<br />
sxva dazianebebic aqvs: glaukoma,<br />
baduris Camofrcqvna da<br />
sxva. am SemTxvevaSi kataraqtis<br />
mkurnaloba yovelTvis mxedvelobis<br />
aRdgeniT ar mTavrdeba.<br />
rogor moviqceT<br />
kataraqtis sawyis stadiaze<br />
mizanSewonilia konservatiuli<br />
mkurnaloba, radgan zogierTi<br />
formisas SesaZloa brolis<br />
SemRvreva gaiwovos.<br />
antikataraqtuli preparatebi<br />
Cveulebriv Tvalis wveTebia,<br />
romlebsac pacientebi dRe-<br />
Si 3-5-jer iwveTeben TvalSi.<br />
maTi didi nawili Seicavs<br />
vitaminebis kompleqss, biogenur<br />
stimulatorebsa da araorganul<br />
marilebs.<br />
im SemTxvevaSi ki, rodesac<br />
daavadeba garTulebulia da medikamentur<br />
mkurnalobas sasurveli<br />
Sedegi ar moaqvs, daxmarebis<br />
erTaderT efeqtian saSualebad<br />
mkurnalobis qirurgiuli<br />
meTodi rCeba.<br />
uwin SemRvreuli brolis<br />
Setevisas zogierTi ritmulad<br />
ganmeorebiT moZraobebs asrulebs,<br />
isteriuli mozardebisTvis<br />
damaxasiaTebelia damblebi,<br />
kontraqturebi, magali-<br />
Tad, maT SeuZliaT sawolSi fexebis<br />
moZraoba, magram ver dgebian<br />
da ver dadian. uCndebaT vegetatiuri<br />
moSlilobani _<br />
bronqospazmi, romlis drosac<br />
ar SeuZliaT saubari, ylapva,<br />
aqvT krunCxviTi xvela, isteriuli<br />
Rebineba, haeris ukmarisoba,<br />
asTmuri Setevebi, sxeulis<br />
temperaturis mateba da sxva.<br />
irRveva metyveleba _ xSiria<br />
enis isteriuli borZiki,<br />
romelic gansxvavdeba sxva<br />
formebisgan, isteriuli<br />
mutizmi _<br />
metyvelebis sruli<br />
uqonloba an nawilobrivi,<br />
mozardi<br />
munjdeba an SerCevi-<br />
Tad saubrobs.<br />
xSiria akviatebuli<br />
azrebiT gamowveuliproblemebic,<br />
rodesac mozardi<br />
aiCemebs ararealur<br />
da ausrulebel<br />
survils da misi<br />
Seusrulebloba<br />
masSi ukve did fsiqo-emociur<br />
gancdas<br />
iwvevs.<br />
gardatexis asakis<br />
nevrozi xSirad<br />
araswori aRzrdis<br />
Sedegia, misi mastimuleblebi<br />
zogjer<br />
Tavad mozrdilebi ki ara, mSoblebi,<br />
maswavleblebi, ojaxis<br />
sxva wevrebi arian, romlebic<br />
ugulebelyofen mozardis Taviseburebebs<br />
da maT angariSs ar<br />
uweven. Seqmnil viTarebaSi er-<br />
TaderTi gamosavali swored am<br />
asakis fsiqo-fiziologiur TaviseburebaTa<br />
codna da maTi<br />
gaTvaliswinebaa.<br />
kataraqta _ Tvalis Cins safrTxe emuqreba<br />
eqstraqciamde saWiro iyo dalodebodnen<br />
kataraqtis srul<br />
momwifebas; dRes Tanamedrove<br />
meTodebi operaciis nebismier<br />
stadiaze Catarebis saSualebas<br />
iZleva.<br />
prognozisTvis mniSvnelovania,<br />
Tu ro<strong>gori</strong>a badurisa da<br />
mxedvelobis nervis funqciuri<br />
unari.<br />
kataraqtis operacia erTerTi<br />
yvelaze xSiri Tvalis<br />
operaciaa, mis Semdgom marTebulia<br />
ramdenime rekomendaciis<br />
gaTvaliswineba: saWiroa fizikuri<br />
datvirTvebis Semcireba,<br />
simZimeebis awevisgan Tavis Sekaveba.<br />
naoperaciebma adamianebma<br />
mzis Zlieri gamosxivebisa da<br />
sinaTlis pirobebSi damcavi<br />
saTvaleebi unda ataron.<br />
kiTxva da televizoris yureba<br />
rekomendebulia mxolod<br />
dRis saaTebSi, sibneleSi amgvari<br />
moqmedebebi ikrZaleba.<br />
operaciaTa 90-95 procenti<br />
warmatebiT sruldeba. mis Semdgom<br />
aRdgeba mxedveloba da adamiani<br />
aqtiur cxovrebas ubrundeba.<br />
gverdi moamzada<br />
zviad RonRaZe
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
msoflio presis mixedviT<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
biZina ivaniSvilze finansuri wnexi grZeldeba<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom mxari dauWira<br />
saxelmwifo auditis mimarTvas da kompania<br />
`burji~ opozicioneri miliarderis,<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
momsaxurebisTvis 8 milion 800 aTasi<br />
lariT (5,2 milioni dolari) daajarima. dayadebulia<br />
`burjis~ angariSebi da qoneba.<br />
opoziciaSic da `burjSic~ politikur<br />
devnaze laparakoben, agreTve imis Sesaxebac,<br />
rom saxelmwifo auditma kompaniisgan misTvis<br />
gadacemuli dokumentebi gaayalba. laparakia<br />
saremonto samuSaoebze, romlebic ararsebul<br />
ofisebs CautardaT.<br />
saxelmwifom kompania daadanaSaula imaSic,<br />
rom opozicias avtotransporti Semcirebul<br />
fasad SesTavaza.<br />
odnav adre, biZina ivaniSvilma msgavsi<br />
braldebis gamo uari ganacxada gadaexada uprecedento<br />
jarima _ 45 milioni dolari, ris Semdegac daa-<br />
ruseTi asads<br />
samxedro daxmarebas<br />
uwyvets da reJims<br />
bedis anabarad tovebs<br />
ruseTis xelisuflebis maRalCinosnis<br />
cnobiT, ruseTi sirias aRar<br />
gaugzavnis samxedro mowyobilobebsa<br />
da gamanadgureblebs manamde, vidre<br />
qveyanaSi viTareba normalur kalapotSi<br />
ar Cadgeba, wers The Independent.<br />
gamocema aRniSnavs, rom es nabiji<br />
baSar asadis reJimze wnexs<br />
aamaRlebs.<br />
`dResdReobiT, es cnoba aris yvelaze<br />
Zlieri signali Zveli mokavSiris<br />
mimarT ruseTis poziciis gasamkacreblad.<br />
igi Zlier dartymas miayenebs<br />
siriis prezidents, romelsac am<br />
dReebSi kofi anani Sexvda da krizisidan<br />
TavdaRwevis politikur inicia-<br />
tivebze imsjeles~, _ aRniSnavs politologi<br />
lavdi morisi.<br />
ruseTi iaraRis erT-erTi umsxvilesi<br />
mimwodebelia siriisTvis da am<br />
samxedro SeiaraRebis miuwodeblobam<br />
SesaZloa, gawyvitos 4-miliarddolariani<br />
moqmedi kontraqti, wers gamocemis<br />
korespondenti. es nabiji SeaCerebs<br />
siriaSi ??-130-is tipis oTxi gamanadgureblis<br />
gagzavnas, romelTa Sesaxebac<br />
SeTanxmeba SarSan, wlis miwuruls<br />
daido.<br />
amis Sesaxeb ruseTis samxedro<br />
uwyebis erT-erTma maRalCinosanma saerTaSoriso<br />
aviakosmosuri salonis<br />
`farnboro-2012~-is mimdinareobisas<br />
ganacxada da dasZina _ vidre siriaSi<br />
mdgomareoba ar dastabilurdeba,<br />
iaraRis miwodeba gamoricxulia.<br />
arsebobs sxva niSnebic imisa, rom<br />
moskovi asadis reJimisgan daSoriSorebas<br />
apirebs: ruseTis sagareo saqme-<br />
Ta ministrma sergei lavrovma moskov-<br />
Si molaparakebebi gamarTa siriis<br />
opoziciis lider miSel kilosTan da<br />
sxva opoziciuri organizaciebis warmomadgenlebTan.<br />
am Sexvedraze kofi<br />
ananis gegmis ganxorcielebaze imsjeles.<br />
The Independent<br />
yadaRes da auqcionze gasayidad gaitanes misi aqciebi<br />
`qarTu jgufSi~, `bank qarTusa~ da `progresbankSi~.<br />
sloveniaSi gamoica iosip broz titos<br />
axali biografia, romlis avtoric<br />
istorikosi ioJe pirJevecia. misi azriT,<br />
insulti, romelsac stalinis gardacvaleba<br />
mohyva, gamoiwvia iugoslavieli<br />
lideris mier daqiravebulma<br />
mkvlelma. The Daily Beast beWdavs recenzias<br />
wignze, romelic jerjerobiT mxolod<br />
sloveniur enazea dabeWdili da<br />
savaraudod mraval enaze iTargmneba. am<br />
gamocemas safuZvlad udevs im arqivebis<br />
dokumentebi, romlebic yofili iugoslaviis<br />
teritoriazea ganTavsebuli.<br />
1953 wlis 28 Tebervals, RamiT stalinma<br />
agarakze miiwvia Tavisi axloblebi.<br />
Sexvedram dilamde gastana. stumrebi<br />
wavidnen (SemdgomSi yvela erTxmad<br />
aRniSnavda, rom belads cudad yofnisa<br />
araferi etyoboda), stalinma ki, vidre<br />
daiZinebda, mcvelebi daiTxova da ubrZana,<br />
ar gaeRviZebinaT. mis oTxSi Suqi sa-<br />
Ramos 18:30 saaTze ainTo, magram dacvam<br />
Ramis 10 saaTamde Sesvla ver gabeda.<br />
stalini iwva iatakze da misive saaTis<br />
gatexili ciferblatiT Tu vimsjelebT,<br />
igi swored 18:30 saaTze daeca.<br />
eqimebi maSinve ar gamouZaxebiaT. istorikosTa<br />
umravlesoba erTsulovania<br />
_ es gangeb gaaWianures. roca eqimebi,<br />
bolos da bolos, gamoCndnen, saerTo<br />
insultis diagnozi dasves. stalini paralizebuli<br />
iyo da misi agonia ramdenime<br />
dRes gagrZelda, 5 marts ki gardaicvala.<br />
cnobilia, rom stalinis brZanebiT<br />
titos 22-jer daesxnen Tavs, maT Soris<br />
garda amisa, saxelmwifom daiwyo im partiebis<br />
finansuri devna, romlebic koalicia `qar-<br />
Tul ocnebaSi~ Sedian.<br />
SegaxsenebT: gasul kviras, orSabaTs, saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam auqcionze gasayidad gaitana<br />
opozicioneri miliarderis biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
26 ivniss dayadaRebuli aqciebi _ `qarTu jguf-<br />
Si~ (100 procenti) da `progresbankSi~ (21,7<br />
procenti). dayadaReba mas Semdeg gadawyda, rac<br />
opoziciis liderma uari Tqva gadaexada 45 milioni<br />
dolari saparlamento saarCevno kampaniis<br />
dros daSvebuli darRvevebisTvis _ Tanamgzavruli<br />
antenebis SeRavaTian fasad damontaJebiT da<br />
avtotransportiT sargeblobisas agreTve SeRavaTiani<br />
pirobebiT ivaniSvili TiTqosda amomrCevlis<br />
mosyidvas cdilobda.<br />
vestikavkasa.ru<br />
antidasavluri reJimebis aliansi _ droebiTi Tu urRvevi?<br />
ruseTi kvlavac ganagrZobs baSar<br />
asadis daxmarebas saSinao da sagareo Zalebis<br />
winaaRmdeg, romlebsac qveynis<br />
prezidentis gadayeneba surT, wers<br />
Financial Times. `es aris simbolo<br />
moskovisa da damaskos urTierTobisa,<br />
romelic marTalia, ur-<br />
Rvevi ar aris, magram avtoritaruli<br />
da antidasavluri ori reJimis<br />
utyuari droebiTi aliansia~, _<br />
wers gamocemis mimomxilveli.<br />
`siriis reJimisTvis ruseTi<br />
aris momxiblveli modeli da imavdroulad<br />
_ gafrTxilebac. erTi<br />
mxriv, am modelma mtkivneuli politikuri<br />
transformacia ganicada<br />
imiT, rom didi ziani ar miuyenebia<br />
saxelisuflebo ZalisTvis, meore<br />
mxriv ki _ sabWoTa kavSiris daqucmaceba<br />
damaskos xelisuflebis-<br />
Tvis safrTxis Semcveli simptomia:<br />
yvelaferi daangrio imisTvis,<br />
rom Semdeg aRadgino, _ acxadebs siriis<br />
mTavrobis warmomadgeneli.<br />
dasavleTis qveynebi da maTi mokavSireebi<br />
cdilobdnen, SeeqmnaT gardamavali<br />
mTavroba asadis gareSe, magram ruseTma<br />
es iniciativa dabloka. adrec iyo SemTxvevebi,<br />
roca gaeros uSiSroebis sabWoSi<br />
ruseTma orjer gamoiyena vetos ufleba,<br />
aRekveTaT siriis xelisuflebis sawina-<br />
aRmdego moqmedebebi. rusuli samxedro<br />
SeiaraRebis eqsporti da sxva samxedro<br />
mxardaWera udidesi mniSvnelobisaa asadis<br />
reJimisTvis. ruseTis mTavar sayrdens<br />
warmoadgens sazRvao baza siriaSi<br />
_ qalaq tartusSi. urTierTobis kidev<br />
erTi sayrdeni ekonomikaa _ ruseTi sirias<br />
ugzavnis xorbals, xolo siriisgan<br />
xilsa da bostneuls yidulobs.<br />
dasavleTis bankebma gawyvites<br />
siriasTan kavSiri, ruseTis finansuri<br />
institutebi ki _ ÂÒÁ,<br />
Âíåøýêîíîìáàíê, Ãàçïðîìáàíê _<br />
siriasTan Cveulebriv reJimSi agr-<br />
Zeleben muSaobas. asadis ojaxis<br />
40-wliani mmarTvelobisas, samxedro<br />
da sxva dargis aTasobiT sirielma<br />
specialistma ganaTleba ruseTSi<br />
miiRo. arsebobs uamravi Sereuli<br />
ojaxi. `radganac ruseTSi<br />
vswavlobdi, ase mgonia, rusebi Cemi<br />
da-Zmebi arian~ _ ase msjelobs<br />
ruseTmovlili rigiTi sirieli.<br />
`gasakviri ar aris, rom asadis<br />
mowinaaRmdegeebs ruseTis mimarT<br />
simpaTia siZulvilSi gadaezardaT<br />
_ opozicionerebi moskovs mSvidobiano<br />
mosaxleobis ganadgurebaSi asadis<br />
saerTaSoriso Tanamzraxvelad ganixilaven~,<br />
_ vkiTxulobT gamocemaSi.<br />
Financial Times<br />
axali wigni: stalini titom mokla<br />
`ZvirfaseulobisTvis gankuTvnili zardaxSiTac,<br />
romlis gaxsnisas nervul-paralitikuri<br />
gazi gamodioda~. pirJevecis<br />
xelT arsebuli cnobebiT, stalinis<br />
gardacvalebis dRes, sxva qaRaldebs<br />
Soris aRmoaCines titos werili _ amdeni<br />
mcdeloba ar damWirdeba, erTic<br />
meyofao. istorikosTa garkveul nawils<br />
stalinis bunebrivi sikvdili bunebriv<br />
movlenad miaCniaT, radgan belads ramdenime<br />
mZime insulti hqonda gadatanili.<br />
gamocemis korespondenti ixsenebs<br />
mosazrebas imis Sesaxeb, rom lenini<br />
swored stalinma mowamla. arsebobs<br />
stalinis 1923 wliT daTariRebuli werili<br />
politbiuros saxelze, romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac, lenini iTxovs, miscen kaliumcianidi,<br />
magram stalins, misive sityvebiT,<br />
`iliCis Txovnis Sesasruleblad<br />
Zala ar eyofa~, da amitomac `iZulebulia,<br />
uari Tqvas am misiaze, raoden humanuri<br />
da aucilebelic unda iyos es~.<br />
Tu orive versia sworia, maSin arsebobs<br />
`garkveuli uzenaesi samarTlianoba~,<br />
_ aseTia recenzentis daskvna.<br />
The Daily Deast<br />
mimoxilva moamzada<br />
g. WavWavaZem.<br />
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22 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
jemal davlianiZe<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia,<br />
kavkasiuri saxli da<br />
radio `Tavisufleba~<br />
nu viqnebiT miamitebi da nu vifiqrebT,<br />
rom riCard niqsoni delegaciasTan<br />
erTad turistuli miznebiT<br />
Camovida saqarTveloSi. ra Tqma<br />
unda, es gaxldaT specialuri davalebiT<br />
Camosuli amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis jgufi, romelsac, garda<br />
oficialurad gamoqveynebul informaciaSi<br />
gadmocemuli ambebisa,<br />
sxva mizanic gaaCnda.<br />
oficialurad, niqsonma aRniSna,<br />
rom: `mas aqamde ar hqonia saqarTveloSi<br />
Camosvlis SesaZlebloba. amerikaSi<br />
qarTveli xalxi cnobilia<br />
Tavisi brZolisunarianobiT. Cveni<br />
viziti ar aris oficialuri xasia-<br />
Tis, magram Cveni prezidentis davalebiT<br />
varT Camosuli da gvevaleba<br />
saqarTvelos politikuri viTarebis<br />
misTvis gacnoba.<br />
Tqvengan miRebuli informaciis<br />
safuZvelze saWiroa delegaciebis<br />
gacvlas intensiuri xasiaTi mieces,<br />
urTierTdamokidebuleba saqarTvelosTan<br />
iqnes ara iseTi, rogorc<br />
sabWoTa kavSirTan iyo. es iqneba arsebiTad<br />
axali saxis urTierTkavSiri.<br />
amerikis mxare didad aris dainteresebuli<br />
saqarTvelosTan urTierTobiT...<br />
amerikeli xalxi da mTavroba<br />
did pativs scemen xalxis mier<br />
arCeul mTavrobas. amerikas yovelTvis<br />
miaCnda, rom yovelma xalxma,<br />
mis mier arCeulma mTavrobam Tvi-<br />
Ton unda ganagos TavianTi bedi~ (gazeTi<br />
`saqarTvelos respublika~,<br />
#61, 1991 w. 30 marti).<br />
ai, swored es gaxlavT oficialurad<br />
is, rac riCard niqsonma xmamaRla<br />
brZana, magram... mainc, ra amba-<br />
vi Cautana aSS-s yofilma prezidentma<br />
amave amerikis moqmed prezidents?<br />
am kiTxvas mogvianebiT vupasuxebT.<br />
jer kidev 1990 wlis dekember-<br />
Si zviad gamsaxurdias saqarTvelos<br />
respublikis uzenaesi sabWos prescentrSi<br />
gamarTul pres-konferenciaze<br />
erT-erTma Jurnalistma hkiTxa:<br />
`- batono zviad, Seicvleba Tu<br />
ara evropis, msoflios qveynebis damokidebuleba<br />
ssrk-Si Semavali respublikiserovnul-ganmaTavisuflebeli<br />
moZraobisadmi?~<br />
zviadma am kiTxvas amgvari pasuxi<br />
gasca:<br />
`- dasavleTSi jer-jerobiT<br />
mxolod diskusiaa am sakiTxebis irgvliv.<br />
buSs hyavs opozicia, romelic<br />
eubneba, - ratom xarT mCagvrelis<br />
mxareze? (saocaria, rom Svili<br />
buSic, ramdenime wlis Semdeg, mamasaviT<br />
`mCagvrelebis~ mxareze dadga!<br />
_ j.d.). moraluri aspeqtiT akritikeben<br />
buSsa da mis pozicias, magram<br />
is Tavisi pragmatuli da politikuri<br />
mosazrebebiT upirispirdeba yovelive<br />
amas. jer-jerobiT asea... Tu<br />
gaimarjvebs swored is zneobrivi<br />
momenti dasavleTis politikaSi,<br />
romelic prezident reiganis dros<br />
batonobda da iyo wamyvani, ai, maSin<br />
SeiZleba gadmoixaros saswori Cvens<br />
mxareze~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~<br />
#11, 1990 w., dekemberi).<br />
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-25<br />
mware gakveTilebi<br />
evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo<br />
ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666<br />
aqve aucileblobad vTvli gavixseno,<br />
Tu ra damokidebuleba hqonda<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias saer-To kavkasiuri<br />
saxlis mSeneblobisadmi. ai,<br />
amonaridi zemoTmoyvanili interviudan:<br />
`korespondenti: - batono zviad,<br />
ramdenad realobad migaCniaT saerTo<br />
kavkasiuri saxlis mSenebloba?<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: - es aris, me<br />
vTvli, Zalian bundovani da ara sa-<br />
Wiro saubari. saerTo saxlze rom<br />
vlaparakobT, jer Cveni sakuTari<br />
saxlebi unda gvqondes. usaxlkaro<br />
adamianebi rom Seikribon da isaubron<br />
raRac saerTo saxlze, es aris<br />
utopia da fantazia. jer yvelas Tavisi<br />
sakuTari saxli unda hqondes,<br />
jer vifiqroT Cven-Cven saxlebze da<br />
yvelam Tavis saxls mixedos~.<br />
ufro sainteresoa zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
pasuxebi momaval samxedro<br />
gadatrialebis Taobaze:<br />
` _ batono zviad, saqarTvelos<br />
uzenaesma sabWom SeaCera brZaneba<br />
jarebis da miliciis er-Toblivi<br />
moqmedebis Sesaxeb, ra reaqcia mohyva<br />
amas kremlidan?<br />
-jerjerobiT araviTari reaqcia<br />
ar aris... omis dawyeba ki maT jerjerobiT<br />
xels ar aZlevT, vidre amerikis<br />
SeerTebuli Statebis srul<br />
mxardaWeras ar gainaRdeben~ (gazeTi<br />
`saqarTvelos respublika~ #24,<br />
1991 w. 5 Tebervali).<br />
axla vnaxoT, ras ambobs zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia radio `Tavisuflebis~<br />
Sesaxeb~:<br />
`qarTveli rogor unda daknindes<br />
imdenad, rom mis qveyanaSi Catarebuli<br />
demokratiuli, Tavisufali<br />
arCevnebis Sedegebi ucxoeTidan lan-<br />
ZRos da mosTxaros? amas arc erTi<br />
eri ar akeTebs. magaliTad, aseTi mo-<br />
Ralateebi somxeTSi rom aRmoCndnen,<br />
saxalxod CamoaxrCoben, amdeni moRalate<br />
arc erT ers ar hyavs... radio<br />
`Tavisuflebis~ qarTuli redaqcia<br />
saqarTvelos mtrebis xel-Sia~<br />
(1991 wlis 2 Tebervali, saqarTvelos<br />
masobrivi informaciis saSualebaTa<br />
warmomadgenlebis Sexvedra<br />
respublikis uzenaesi sabWos TavmjdomaresTan,<br />
zviad gamsaxurdiasTan.<br />
preskonferenciaSi monawileoba mii-<br />
Res `frans presis~ da gazeT `tokio<br />
singunis~ warmomadgenlebma. gazeTi<br />
`saqarTvelos respublika~<br />
#24, 1991 w. 5 Tebervali).<br />
`me radio `Tavisuflebis~ qar-<br />
Tul ganyofilebas vucxadeb boikots,<br />
vinaidan is moRalatur saqmianobas<br />
eweva. Tqven piradad ki gagcemT<br />
pasuxs (amas zviadi eubneba radio<br />
`Tavisuflebis~ warmomadgenels<br />
giorgi fofxaZes! _ j.d.), magram moviTxov,<br />
rom Cemi saxeliT ar gadaices<br />
araferi radio `Tavisufleba-<br />
Si~, vinaidan is moRalatur gzas<br />
adgas~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~<br />
#38, 1991 w. 26 Tebervali).<br />
korespondenti: `faqtia, rom dasavleTis<br />
presaSi saqarTveloSi mimdinare<br />
procesebis garSemo Camoyalibda<br />
stereotipi, rom TiTqos arsebobs<br />
ori uzarmazari dapirispirebuli<br />
Zala _ uzenaesi sabWo da<br />
erovnuli kongresi, rom mimdinareobs<br />
samoqalaqo omi (rogorc xedavT,<br />
e.w. dasavleTSi ukve pirdapiri<br />
didi muSaoba mimdinareobs, TiTqos<br />
saqarTveloSi samoqalaqo omia<br />
gaCaRebuli, jer kidev 1991 wlis<br />
martia da ukve, mTeli msoflios<br />
e.w. wamyvani qveynebi, amzadeben kanonieri<br />
xelisuflebis damxobas. rogorc<br />
viciT, Canafiqri kidec ganaxorcieles<br />
1991-1992 wels, roca<br />
es Savi saqme dagvirgvinda samxedro<br />
gadatrialebiT! _ j.d.), da es stereotipi<br />
arafriT ar gansxvavdeba im<br />
dezinformaciisagan, ris gavrcelebasac,<br />
moskovi cdilobs. ratom ar<br />
dganan dasavleli Jurnalistebi Cveni<br />
_ Cagruli eris mxareze?<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: - `imitom,<br />
rom TviT dasavleli saxelmwifoebis<br />
mTavrobebi dganan am poziciaze,<br />
isini dResdReobiT faqtobrivad<br />
mCagvrelTa mxareze arian garkveuli<br />
mizezebis gamo~. (gazeTi `saqarTvelos<br />
respublika~, #49, 1991 w. 13<br />
marti, preskonferencia qarTveli,<br />
sabWoTa da ucxoeli JurnalistebisaTvis).<br />
korespondenti: -~gaerTianebuli<br />
erebis organizaciebidan pasuxebi<br />
xom ar migiRiaT Tqven mimarTvebze<br />
da peticiebze?<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: -~samwuxarod,<br />
jer ara. jerjerobiT gaerTianebuli<br />
erebis organizacia mxolod<br />
azia-afrikis qveynebisTvis arsebobs<br />
da ara sabWoTa kavSiris damonebuli<br />
xalxebisaTvis. CvenTan kontaqtebs<br />
ise afaseben, rogorc sabWoTa kavSiris<br />
saSinao saqmeebSi Carevas~ (1991<br />
wlis 10 aprilis preskonferencia<br />
qarTveli da ucxoeli JurnalistebisaTvis).<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia<br />
`natos~ Sesaxeb<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia Zalian<br />
frTxilad ekideboda natoSi saqar-<br />
Tvelos gawevrianebas, radgan icoda<br />
_ am organizaciis gafarToeba aRmosavleTisaken<br />
aucileblad Seejaxeboda<br />
ruseTis interesebs. ise, kaci<br />
rom dafiqrdes, - evroamerika xmamaRla<br />
rom gaiZaxis _ kavkasiaSi da<br />
mTel msoflioSi Cveni geostrategiuli<br />
interesebi gagvaCniao, ra,<br />
ruseTs aRar aqvs araviTari strategiuli<br />
interesebi? Se dalocvilo,<br />
- aseuli kilometris manZilze<br />
gsurs xeli afaTuro sxva qveynebis<br />
Sinaur Tu sagareo politikaSi,<br />
sul asiode kilometriT dacilebul<br />
kavkasiis arealSi ruseTs ukve<br />
aRarc daedgomeba da xmis amoRebis<br />
uflebasac arTmeven?<br />
ra Tqma unda, ruseTi Cinebulad<br />
xedavs, rom mis irgvliv _ dasavle-<br />
TiT, samxreTiT, Sua aziisken nato<br />
TandaTan aviwroebs rkals. ukrainas<br />
da belorusias upireben natoSi gawevrianebas<br />
da ufro metic _ sTavazoben<br />
ruseTs, sxvebi ki ara, Senc<br />
unda Semoxvide natoSio.<br />
1991 wlis 30 maiss, zviad gamsaxurdiam<br />
interviu misca TurqeTis<br />
erT-erT yvelaze gavleniani centraluri<br />
gazeTis `Turqias~ redaqtors<br />
evropis departamentis xaziT, bilal<br />
qoCaks:<br />
kiTxva: - `natos wevrobas Tu<br />
fiqrobT?~<br />
pasuxi: - `jer es ar gadagviwyvetia.<br />
momavali gviCvenebs~.<br />
`- rogor daicavs Tavs saqarTvelo?<br />
-formirebis procesSia qarTuli<br />
jari. Cven gvinda samxedro, megobruli<br />
urTierToba davamyaroT mezobel<br />
qveynebTan~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos<br />
respublika~, #112, 1991 wlis 7 ivnisi).<br />
rogorc interviudan Cans, zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia natoSi Sesvlas momavlis<br />
Temad Tvlis, xolo qarTuli<br />
jaris formirebisaTvis `mezobeli<br />
qveynebis~ imedi aqvs. amerika da evropa<br />
mezoblebi ar arian. ese igi,<br />
ori qveyanaa sagulisxmo _ ruseTi<br />
an TurqeTi!<br />
natos Taobaze zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
1991 wlis 3 ivliss moskovSi<br />
gamarTul preskonferenciaze dausves<br />
kiTxva:<br />
` _ amboben, rom saqarTvelo natoSi<br />
Sesvlas apirebso, marTalia<br />
es?~<br />
zviad gamsaxurdiam kiTxvaze Zalian<br />
mokled upasuxa:<br />
` _ es sasaciloa~.<br />
1991 wels Jurnalistma v. savi-<br />
Cevma (gaz. `argumenti i faqti~<br />
#55) saubrisas zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
hkiTxa:<br />
`_ Tqvenze amboben, Rrmad morwmune<br />
kaciao. ras SesTxovT RmerTs<br />
locvisas?~<br />
zviad gamsaxurdiam upasuxa:<br />
`_ amas winaT, dasavleTis er-<br />
Tma gazeTma warwerianad dabeWda<br />
foto, sadac me TiTqos arCevnebSi<br />
Cemi gamarjvebisaTvis vloculobdi.<br />
Cemi piradi warmatebisaTvis<br />
arasodes ar vloculob. vloculob<br />
kacobriobisaTvis, Cemi xalxisaTvis~.<br />
rogorc vxedavT, evroamerikam<br />
ukve icis, rom zviad gamsaxurdia<br />
apirebs yvelasgan damoukidebuli<br />
kursiT ataros saqarTvelo... ese<br />
igi, _ frTxilad ekideba natoSi gawevrianebas,<br />
icis, es Zalian gaabrazebs<br />
ruseTs... radgan ukve ician<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias momavali gza,<br />
amitomac wauyrues, saqarTveloze<br />
xeli aiRes da is, rac maT gulSi<br />
hqondaT, ruseTis federacias miandes<br />
sakeTeblad.<br />
Zalian momgebiani pozicia daikaves<br />
_ adre Tu gvian ruseTis federaciaSi<br />
mokalaTebuli, evroamerikuli<br />
gegmis saidumlod ganmaxorcieleblebi<br />
moaxerxebdnen zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
xelisuflebis diskreditacias,<br />
Semdeg ki damxobas, rac garegnulad<br />
ruseTs dabraldeboda... sinamdvileSi<br />
_ TavianTi zraxvebic<br />
aRsruldeboda!<br />
maSasadame _ ruseTi gailanZReboda<br />
msoflios TvalSi, radgan zviad<br />
gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis damxoba<br />
pirdapir ruseTis sindisze iqneboda!<br />
albaT amitom iyo, rom 1991<br />
wlis noemberSi gazeT `gruzia-speqtris~<br />
mTavar redaqtorTan saubar-<br />
Si, zviad gamsaxurdiam ganacxada:<br />
` _ ra Tqma unda, axali saxelmwifos<br />
damoukideblobis cnoba, ubralod<br />
ar xdeba. miT umetes, roca<br />
saqme exeba yofil sabWoTa respub-<br />
likebs... samwuxarod isea awyobili<br />
saqme jerjerobiT, rom dasavleTis<br />
qveynebi Sehyureben moskovs, Tu rodis<br />
gvcnobs igi damoukideblad.<br />
swored es iyo ZiriTadi mizezi imisa,<br />
somxeTi rom axlave ar cno SeerTebulma<br />
Statebma. ase iqneba saqarTvelos<br />
mimarTac. amitom ar mivdivar<br />
vaSingtonSi. me iq Caval ma-<br />
Sin, roca davinaxav, rom dasavleTi<br />
damoukidebel politikas awarmoebs...<br />
reqdaqtori: Cveni opozicia laparakobs,<br />
saqarTvelos dasavleTi ar<br />
scnobs imis gamo, rom CvenSi...<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: diqtaturaao,<br />
ara?<br />
_ diax!<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: dasavleTi ar<br />
scnobs ukrainas, moldovas, somxeTs...<br />
maS iqac diqtatura yofila.<br />
ara, es ar aris simarTle. dasavle-<br />
Ti ar cnobs am respublikebis damoukideblobas<br />
imitom, rom es ar unda<br />
moskovs.<br />
redaqtori: magram dasavleTma<br />
ukve daiwyo baltiispireTis saxelmwifoebis<br />
cnoba, ratom?<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia: baltiispire-<br />
Tis saxelmwifoTa sakiTxebSi maT<br />
moilaparakes da SeTanxmdnen, danar-<br />
Ceni respublikebis Sesaxeb ki maT<br />
Soris sxvanairi molaparakebaa. ese<br />
igi, saqme gvaqvs molaparakebasTan<br />
dasavleTsa da aRmosavleTs Soris.<br />
ase rom, Cvens respublikaSi arsebuli<br />
mdgomareobis mizeziT viTomda<br />
Cveni arcnoba absurduli, politikurad<br />
umecrulia~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos<br />
respublika~ #223, 1991 w.,<br />
27 noemberi).<br />
amave sakiTxebze saubrobs zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia centraluri televiziis<br />
JurnalistTan urmas otTan:<br />
` _ iseTi STabeWileba iqmneba,<br />
TiTqos mSvenieri saqarTvelo raRac<br />
izolaciaSia sabWoTa kavSiris mxriv<br />
da gasakviria, dasavleTis mxrivac~.<br />
-es gasakviri ar aris. dasavle-<br />
Ti sabWoTa kavSirs da ruseTs Sehyurebs.<br />
-Tqven es winaswar iciT, Tu siurprizia<br />
TqvenTvis?<br />
-marTali giTxraT, siurprizia.<br />
ar megona, rom dasavleTi amdenad<br />
damokidebulia aRmosavleTze da dasavleTis<br />
sazogadoebriv azrs aqedan<br />
marTaven. ar movelodi aseT rames.<br />
-rogor ggoniaT, mas Semdeg, rac<br />
sabWoTa kavSiris arseboba Sewyda,<br />
dasavleTi Seicvlis Tavis Tvalsazriss<br />
saqarTveloze Tu ara?<br />
-jerjerobiT ar Cans, da ara<br />
mgonia, rom es ase swrafad moxdes.<br />
-Tqven sakmaod cudi damokidebuleba<br />
gaqvT dasavleTis liderebTan?<br />
-diax, es maTi bralia, radgan<br />
isini ar arian dainteresebuli imperiis<br />
daSliT. es xom cnobilia. Cemi<br />
saxiT ki isini xedaven kacs, romelic<br />
imperiis dezintegraciis momxrea.<br />
-visi imedi gaqvT, Tqveni Zalebis,<br />
Tu mainc gaqvT dasavleTis Tu<br />
aRmosavleTis raRac imedi?<br />
-umTavresad sakuTari Zalebis~<br />
(gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~,<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
#249-250, 1991 wlis 21 dekemberi).<br />
rogorc xedavT, winamdebare interviu<br />
daibeWda gazeT `saqarTvelos<br />
respublikaSi~ 1991 wlis 21<br />
dekembris nomerSi.<br />
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, es gaxlavT<br />
im avbediTi samxedro gadatrialebis<br />
dawyebis wina dRe _ 21 dekemberi.<br />
22 dekembers, gamTeniisas saqarTvelos<br />
dedaqalaqSi, mTavrobis saxlisken<br />
pirveli tyvia gavarda da<br />
kriminalebis xrovam Seutia kanonier<br />
xelisuflebas.<br />
zviad gamsaxurdia:<br />
`demokratia iqca<br />
cariel sityvad~<br />
axla gadavxedoT samxedro<br />
putCis Semdgom presas. magaliTad<br />
aviRoT gazeTi `saqarTvelos cis<br />
qveS~ (1992 w. 14 noemberi). Zalian<br />
sainteresoa samxedro put-<br />
Cis Sefaseba zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
mier. mas esaubreba korespondenti:<br />
`-riT aixsneba dasavluri demokratiis<br />
esodeni gulgriloba<br />
saxelmwifos kanonieri xelmZRvanelis<br />
bedisadmi?<br />
-mTavrobebi, romelTac Tqven<br />
demokratiuls uwodebT, sinamdvileSi<br />
didi xania ganudgnen demokratias.<br />
demokratia iqca cariel<br />
sityvad, romelsac Tavis<br />
nebaze atrialeben dasavleTis<br />
mTavrobaTa, ama Tu im politikuri<br />
interesebis SeniRbvad. roca<br />
am mTavrobebs surT gaaZlieron<br />
TavianTi gavlena da samxedro<br />
yofna romelime regionSi, Tavdapirvelad,<br />
cdiloben moisyidon<br />
am qveynis xelisufleba da Tu<br />
winaaRmdegobas waawydnen, ubralod<br />
amxoben mas. aseT SemTxveva-<br />
Si maTTvis ara aqvs mniSvneloba<br />
damxobili reJimis xasiaTs: demokratiulia<br />
igi Tu avtoritaruli.<br />
es mtacebluri midgoma<br />
sxva qveynebisadmi, dRes sabolood<br />
damkvidrda natos saxelmwifoebSi.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom dasavleTis<br />
yvelaze Zlieri saxelmwifoebi<br />
ukve aRar cdiloben SeniRbon<br />
TavianTi zraxvebi da aSkarad,<br />
cinikurad Trgunaven sxva<br />
xalxTa nebas. swored es moxda<br />
saqarTvelo-Si.<br />
-batono prezidento, ras warmoadgenen<br />
es msoflio Zalebi,<br />
esoden Tavisuflad rom erevian<br />
ucxo saxelmwifoTa saSinao saqmeebSi?<br />
-kacobriobis mtrebs, am sityvis<br />
pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT. isini<br />
miznad isaxaven yvela sxva<br />
xalxis genocids. planetis mTeli<br />
mosaxleobis erTi gansazRvruli<br />
jgufis gamoklebiT, es<br />
jgufi mWidrod aris dakavSirebuli<br />
SeerTebul Statebsa da evropasTan<br />
da mTeli ZaliT miiltvis<br />
msoflio batonobisaken. zogadad<br />
me mas evroamerikul imperializms<br />
vuwodebdi. mTavar damkvrel<br />
Zalas masSi warmoadgens<br />
aSS. SeiZleba iTqvas, saxelmwifo<br />
gadatrialeba saqarTveloSi imar-<br />
Teboda okeanis gaRmidan aSS saxelmwifo<br />
mdivnis j. beikeris piradi<br />
monawileobiT da buSis<br />
locva-kurTxeviT. beikerma pirdapir<br />
mouwoda putCisken saqarTvelos<br />
banditur opoziciur dajgufebebs<br />
(amerikaSi Cinebulad<br />
icodnen, rom opozicia saqarTveloSi<br />
kriminaluri mafiisa da yofili<br />
partokratebisagan Sedgeboda).<br />
beikerma mkafiod mianiSna,<br />
rom amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi<br />
ar uWerda mxars saqarTvelo-<br />
Si arsebul reJims da arafriT<br />
daexmareboda mas. scenari gadatrialebisa,<br />
romelic aSS-m moawyo<br />
saqarTveloSi, adre araerTgzis<br />
gamouyenebia am qveyanas planetis<br />
sxva regionebSic.<br />
(gagrZeelba Semdeg nomerSi)<br />
dasasruli. dasawyisi ix.<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~ #29<br />
`TeTrebis~ lederma Temur<br />
SaSiaSvilma `saerTo gazeTTan~<br />
interviuSi ganacxada, rom prezidentad<br />
wodebul mixeil saakaSvils<br />
SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis<br />
periodSi mZRolis `rangSi~<br />
kaci hyavs mokluli, Tumca SevardnaZis<br />
ZalisxmeviT es saqme<br />
Caifarcxa. saakaSvilis magivrad<br />
misi mZRoli dausjiaT. am avtoavariis<br />
Sesaxeb informirebuli<br />
yofila badri patarkaciSvilic.<br />
baton badris saakaSvilis sawinaaRmdego<br />
sxva kompomatebic<br />
hqonia, maT Soris foTis port-<br />
Si gadaricxul milionebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
da am yvelafris Sesaxeb<br />
saqmis kursSi im period-<br />
Si masTan daaxloebuli valeri<br />
gelbaxianic yofila. Cveni wyaros<br />
gancxadebiT, valeri gelbaxians<br />
sagazeTo interviuSi uTqvams,<br />
rom TiTqos tragikul avtoavariasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT informaciis<br />
mopovebaSi 2 milioni<br />
gadaixada. `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
valeri gelbaxians daukavSirda<br />
da aRniSnul sakiTxebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT komentari sTxova, magram<br />
man interviuze uari gviTxra,<br />
im motiviT, rom es kuluaruli<br />
informaciebia, dadasturebuli<br />
ar aris, iuristi var<br />
da amitom dauzustebel informaciebze<br />
ver vilaparakebo. rac<br />
Seexeba informaciaSi fulis gadaxdas,<br />
man es kate<strong>gori</strong>ulad<br />
uaryo, jer erTi, sad mqonda amdeni<br />
fuli, Tanac aseTi ram gazeTiT<br />
arasdros miTqvamso.<br />
axla rac Seexeba msxverplian<br />
avtoavarias, sando wyaros<br />
informaciiT, is koba narCemaSvilis<br />
Ss ministrobisas moxda wereTlis<br />
gamzirze, gamofenis mimdebare<br />
teritoriaze. im period-<br />
Si saakaSvili, savaraudod, sakrebulos<br />
Tavmjdomare iyo. igi,<br />
Turme, arafxizel mdgomareoba-<br />
Si marTavda Savi feris `volgas~.<br />
ra drosac fexiT mosiarules,<br />
daaxloebiT 45-50 wlis<br />
mamakacs daejaxa. dajaxeba imdenad<br />
Zlieri iyo, rom mamakaci<br />
SemTxvevis adgilze gardaicvala.<br />
SemTxvevis adgilze gasul<br />
policielebs gvarianad mTvrali<br />
saakaSvili daxvedriaT. e.w. didi<br />
reformatoris danaxvaze policielebi<br />
dabneulan, aRar icodnen<br />
gaeformebinaT Tu ara enatlikina<br />
demokratiisa da samarTlianobis<br />
didi damcveli, romelic<br />
maSindel policias mosisxle<br />
mtrad aRiqvamda, amitom<br />
Sss-s xelmZRvanelobas dakavSirebian,<br />
rogor moviqceTo. xelm-<br />
ZRvanelobam maT mocda sTxova,<br />
cota xanSi ki uTxres: saakaSvils<br />
nu daafiqsirebT, misi<br />
mZRoli mova da es Sejaxeba masze<br />
gaaformeTo. rogorc Cans,<br />
SeTanxmeba prezident Sevardna-<br />
ZesTan moxda, romelmac sacixed<br />
ar gawira politikuri Svilobili<br />
da `perspeqtiuli~ politikosi.<br />
misi mZRoli am gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebamde misula adgilze,<br />
romelic Turme ambobda,<br />
ramdenjer vTxove saakaSvils,<br />
mTvrali nu jdebi saWesTan, magram<br />
ar damijerao. mokled, am<br />
avtoavariaSi damnaSaved saakaSvilis<br />
mZRoli gamoacxades, Tumca<br />
didi xniT ar daukavebiaT, 2-<br />
3 TveSi gauTavisuflebiaT. gardacvlilis<br />
ojaxma Turme dRemde<br />
ar icis, maTi ojaxis ufrosi<br />
saakaSvilma rom Seiwira.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, am avtoavariis<br />
Sesaxeb me TviTonac mqonda informacia<br />
gamoqveynebuli erT-<br />
erT gazeTSi, Tumca mec sul axlaxan<br />
gavige, vin iyo realuri<br />
damnaSave. darwmunebuli var,<br />
aseTi danaSauli romelime arareformator<br />
politikoss an im<br />
maRalCinosans, miT umetes Zalovans<br />
rom Caedina, romelic<br />
Jvania-saakaSvilis gundis mxardamWerad<br />
ar ganixileboda, `reformatorebi~<br />
qveyanas daaqcevdnen,<br />
naxeT, SevardnaZe Tavis<br />
xelqveiTebs rogor icavso. Temur<br />
SaSiaSvilis TqmiT, is ma-<br />
RalCinosani policieli, romelic<br />
am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
srulad iyo saqmis kursSi, dResac<br />
Sss-s sistemaSi muSaobs.<br />
`saerTo gazeTma~ am pirovnebis<br />
vinaobac gaarkvia, is am avtoavariis<br />
dros marTlac muSaobda<br />
Tbilisis sagzao policiis im<br />
samsaxurSi, romelic uSualod<br />
kurirebda avtoavariebis sakiTxs.<br />
es adamiani, miuxedavad<br />
asakisa, mogexsenebaT, saakaSvils<br />
40 welze meti xnis xec ki ar<br />
unda, dResac muSaobs Tbilisis<br />
policiis erT-erT ganyofileba-<br />
Si sapasuxismgeblo Tanamdebobaze.<br />
rogorc Cans, `vardosnebma~<br />
pirSi wylis Cagubeba daufases.<br />
`udanaSaulobis prezumfciidan~<br />
gamomdinare, am pirovnebis dasaxelebisgan<br />
Tavs SevikavebT.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, sarwmuno wyaros<br />
TqmiT, valeri gelbaxianma<br />
marTlac SesTavaza informaciis<br />
mimwodeblebs Tanxa, magram maT<br />
uari Tqves, mxolod is uTqvamT,<br />
im TanamSromels aCuqeT mcire<br />
Tanxa, vinc uSualod monawileobda<br />
am saqmis mokvlevaSi. igi<br />
`vardosnebma~ samsaxuridan daiTxoves<br />
da Zalze uWirso, magram<br />
im adamians araferi miuRia.<br />
am informaciis gadamowmeba ki im<br />
martivi mizeziT ver movaxerxeT,<br />
rom, rogorc ukve aRvniSneT,<br />
valeri gelbaxianma CvenTan<br />
am Temaze saubari ar isurva. am<br />
saqmesTan dakavSirebiT, saqmis<br />
kursSi srulad myofi adamianebi,<br />
anu `pirveli xeli~ Tavisi<br />
vinaobis gamxelas ar moerideboda,<br />
magram maTi usafrTxoebidan<br />
gamomdinare, Segnebulad vikaveb<br />
Tavs maTi vinaobis gamxelisgan.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime<br />
wlis win prezident saakaSvilis<br />
eskorti gurjaanis raionis<br />
erT-erT sofelSi aTi wlis<br />
bavSvs daejaxa. korteJma gauCereblad<br />
gaagrZela gza. bavSvi<br />
saavadmyofoSi gadaiyvanes. am<br />
faqtis Sesaxebac daibeWda presaSi,<br />
Tumca ver getyviT, gadar-<br />
Ca Tu ara bavSvi, radgan misma<br />
ojaxma presasTan am faqtze saubari<br />
ar isurva. aseTi faqtebi<br />
darwmunebuli varT, mravlad iqneba,<br />
oRond dazaralebulTa da-<br />
Sinebis gamo ar xmaurdeba. vin<br />
aris damnaSave am incidentSi,<br />
unda gaCerebuliyo Tu ara prezidentis<br />
eskorti msgavsi faqtebisas,<br />
amis garkveva `saerTo<br />
gazeTma~ im yofil policieleb-<br />
Tan scada, romlebic wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi muSaobdnen prezident<br />
SevardnaZis gacileba-eskortirebis<br />
samsaxurSi da garkveuli<br />
periodi saakaSvilsac<br />
emsaxurebodnen. maT im faqtis<br />
gaxsenebac vTxoveT, rogor mouvida<br />
konfliqti iusticiis ministris<br />
moadgile irakli oqruaSvils<br />
xsenebuli samsaxuris<br />
TanamSromlebTan. raoden gasakviradac<br />
ar unda mogeCvenoT, kaxeTSi<br />
momxdar avtoavariaSi<br />
profesionalma policielebma<br />
uSualod mixeil saakaSvili daadanaSaules<br />
da ratom – prezidentis<br />
korteJi sanam raime mimarTulebiT<br />
daiwyebs gadaadgilebas,<br />
gzis am monakveTze winaswar<br />
jgufs uSveben mosawesrigeblad.<br />
amowmeben saeWvo avtomanqanebs,<br />
saerTodacD gahyavT<br />
avtotransporti am monakveTidan<br />
da a.S. amas hqvia `trasis gawyoba~.<br />
es jgufi da sxva Sesabamisi<br />
samsaxurebi gansakuTrebuli<br />
gulisyuriT im monakveTebze mu-<br />
Saoben, sadac bevri fexiT mosiarule<br />
moZraobs, miT umetes<br />
bavSvebi. gansakuTrebuli patru-<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
lireba skolebTan da sabavSvo<br />
baRebTan xdeba, yovel SemTxveva-<br />
Si, SevardnaZis mmarTvelobisas<br />
ase iyo, radgan prezidentis eskorti<br />
Zalze didi siCqariT gadaadgildeba.<br />
am siCqaresac Tavisi<br />
axsna aqvs, prezidentis korteJi<br />
rTuli samizne unda iyos,<br />
teraqtebi Tavidan rom aicilon.<br />
avtomanqanebiT moZravi jgufis<br />
garda, xsenebul monakveTze qveiTi<br />
guSagebic dganan, fexiT mosiaruleebis<br />
moZraoba rom daareguliron.<br />
profesionalTa TqmiT,<br />
SesaZlebelia, kaxeTSi am<br />
kuTxiT gza mowesrigebuli ar<br />
saWesTan mjdarma mixeil saakaSvilma<br />
kaci rom gaitana, amaze informacia<br />
badri patarkaciSvils hqonda<br />
da amis Sesaxeb erTma misma<br />
axlobelma politikosmac icis...<br />
iyo, rac rbilad rom vTqvaT, mixeil<br />
saakaSvilis araordinalurobas<br />
ukavSirdeba. yofila Sem-<br />
Txvevebi, rom `laguna veredan~<br />
is kancelariaSi unda wasuliyo,<br />
gzac am mimarTulebiT gauwyviaT,<br />
saakaSvils ki marSruti<br />
uceb Seucvlia da kancelariis<br />
magivrad, mcxeTis salobieSi<br />
amouyvia Tavi. cxadia, am SemTxvevaSi<br />
eskortis TanamSromlebi<br />
gzis gawyobas ver moaswrebdnen,<br />
riTac saakaSvili safrTxes marto<br />
sakuTar Tavs ki ara, rigiT<br />
moqalaqeebsac uqmnida da albaT,<br />
kvlavac uqmnis. korteJis gaCereba<br />
gamoricxulia da SemTxveviT<br />
saval nawilze aRmoCenil<br />
adamians Tu avtomanqanas didi<br />
siCqariT mimavali uzarmazari<br />
eskorti gadaTelavs. korteJi<br />
mxolod prezidentis uSualo<br />
moTxovniT SeiZleba gaCerdes,<br />
misi dacvis ufross es ar SeuZlia.<br />
sanam prezidentis inauguracia<br />
moxdeba, igi Turme fics<br />
aZlevs Tavisi dacvis TanamSromlebs,<br />
rom daemorCileba maT,<br />
anu specialistebis moTxovnebs.<br />
Cveni respondentebi darwmunebuli<br />
arian, rom saakaSvilis Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi es ar xdeba da dacvis<br />
ufross arafers ekiTxebian.<br />
dacva xmas verc amoiRebs, radgan<br />
winaaRdeg SemTxvevaSi, ar<br />
aris gamoricxuli samsaxuri<br />
dakargon. ase rom, asafeTqeblad<br />
gamzadebuli bombiviT dahqris<br />
saakaSvili Tavisi mravalricxovani<br />
korteJiT saqarTvelos<br />
gzebze da aravin icis, rodis<br />
vis Seiwiravs.<br />
manana suxiSvili<br />
23
24 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
mogzauroba samSobloSi<br />
legendebi buRaze<br />
da wvirmelebze<br />
adiSis Temi<br />
adiSis xediT tkboba Tu gindaT,<br />
an gamTeniisas unda daxedoT<br />
zevidan an mimwuxrisas,<br />
roca amomavali Tu Camavali mze<br />
koSkebs Suq-CrdilebiT ametyvelebs<br />
da idumalebas mxolod<br />
mdinaris xma arRvevs. vzivar<br />
macxovris taZarTan mxcovan adamianebTan<br />
bavCi qaldanTan da giunter<br />
avalianTan erTad da Camavali<br />
mziT nafer suraTs davcqeri.<br />
qveviT, TemSaraze Cveni<br />
maspinZeli tarzan qaldani gamoCnda<br />
_ cxenebi mohyavs xvalindeli<br />
mogzaurobisTvis.<br />
bavCi da giunteri erTmaneTs<br />
enacvlebian erTi legendis<br />
TxrobaSi.<br />
_ adiSi didi Temi iyo, gana<br />
marto es, sadac axla varT. zeviT<br />
kidev oTxi sofeli yofila.<br />
erTs, zed adiSis myinvaris Zir-<br />
Si rom iyo, wvirmi rqmevia.<br />
_ wvirmi xom qveviTaa, ifar-<br />
Tan axlos, _ bodiSis moxdiT<br />
vawyvetineb Txrobas.<br />
_ diax, is aris, magram adre,<br />
ufro Zveli wvirmi aq yofila.<br />
am wvirmelebs didZali pirutyvi<br />
hyoliaT da Turme saukeTeso<br />
yveli amohyavdaT. erTxel uTqvamT,<br />
aba, vnaxoT visi yveli uke-<br />
Tesiao, gamoutaniaT saukeTeso<br />
Tavebi, erTmaneTis ukan CaumwkrivebiaT<br />
da Soridan srola dauwyiaT.<br />
visi yvelis mwkrivSic<br />
tyvia bolomde ver gaatanda, gamarjvebuli<br />
is iqneboda. Tofis<br />
xmaze adiSis myinvari mowyvetila<br />
da sofeli mTlianad daumarxavs.<br />
gadarCenila mxolod<br />
erTi ymawvili, romelsac amJamindel<br />
wvirmSi mcxovrebi gogo<br />
Sehyvarebia. mSoblebs qaliSvilis<br />
ganadgurebul sofelSi<br />
gaTxovebaze uari uTqvamT, vaJs<br />
ki Turme aseTi piroba wauyenebia:<br />
me mxolod maSin dagTanxmdebiT<br />
CasiZebaze, Tu Tqvens sofels<br />
Cemi soflis saxels daarqmevTo.<br />
ai, ase gaqra erTi wvirmi<br />
da gaCnda meore wvirmi, _ daasrules<br />
Txroba moxucebma, magram<br />
me mainc ar vusveneb.<br />
_ xval rom zeviT wavalT,<br />
Zveli soflebis nangrevebis naxva<br />
Tu SegveZleba?<br />
_ SegeZlebaT, _ ambobs bavCi<br />
qaldani, _ oRond sxva nasoflarisa.<br />
masTan axlos aris ek-<br />
lesia, romelsac qudosani wminda<br />
giorgi hqvia. eklesiis zeviT<br />
didi lodebiT Semovlebuli<br />
mindoria, buRas karvebi hqvia.<br />
buRa kaci iyo, gvarad Cegiani.<br />
buRa, amitom erqva, rom didi,<br />
Ronieri vaJkaci yofila da SeZlebiTac<br />
veravin sjobda. amboben,<br />
yvela svans is patronobdao.<br />
`liCaniSis~ aRmosavleTisa da<br />
dasavleTis xedebi RvatebiT.<br />
eh, sxvanairi iyo es xeoba adre,<br />
12 gvaris xalxi cxovrobda.<br />
... meore dila gaTenda. joyola<br />
Cegians, operator sozar<br />
gulbansa da me tarzan qaldani<br />
gviwevs megzurobas. cxenebiT<br />
mivdivarT. adiSidan aRmosavle-<br />
TiT, mdinaris saTaveebisken mivuyvebiT<br />
xeobas. vefxvs hgavs<br />
adiSWala, zogan iseTia, rom<br />
Segzaravs, zvirTi zvirTze gadasdis<br />
da Rrialebs. Crdiloe-<br />
Tidan TeTnuldis qaTqaTa konusi<br />
Semogvcqeris, pirdapir xaldes<br />
myinvaris nawili da rusTavelis<br />
piki Cans _ lurji feri<br />
gadahkravT. yovel 100-200 nabijze<br />
ferdobidan nakadulebi<br />
Camorbian da adiSWalas uerTdebian.<br />
cxenebi frutuniT midian<br />
da Tavis aSvebas lamoben.<br />
`jgrag liCaniSs~ mivadeqiT. es<br />
X-XI saukuneebis wminda giorgis<br />
saxelobis eklesiaa, romelsac<br />
`qudosan wminda giorgisac~<br />
uwodeben. taZari, ufro swored<br />
misi ZiriTadi da Zveli darbazi,<br />
romelic Sirimis kargad gaTlili<br />
kvadrebiTaa nagebi, moculobiT<br />
adiSis `macxovars~<br />
joyola Cegiani da werilis avtori adiSWalis saTaveebSi<br />
(6,55X5,2 m) ki CamorCeba, magram<br />
`qaSveTisa~ da `Taringzelis~<br />
Tanatolia (4,9X4,2 m). taZari<br />
rom garedanac iyo moxatuli,<br />
amas aRmosavleTis frontonis<br />
qvebi mowmobs. gvian xanebSi,<br />
taZrisTvis zerele monaSenebi<br />
miudgamT. Tu adiSis samxreT<br />
ubanSi mdgari `qaSveTis wminda<br />
giorgi~ maxloblad mdebare verilaris<br />
mTebSi arCvebze sanadirod<br />
mimavali vaJkacebis salocavi<br />
iyo, `jgrag liCaniSi~ TeTnuldisaken<br />
jixvebze mimaval monadireebs<br />
ulocavda xolme<br />
gzas. amitomac aris, rom `jgrag<br />
liCaniSis~ karebze erTavad<br />
jixvis rqebia mimagrebuli. rogorc<br />
vTqviT, am eklesias meorenairad<br />
`qudosani wminda giorgi~<br />
hqvia. `liCaniSoba~ Zveli<br />
svanuri dResaswaulia da swored<br />
qudosnobas, anu ojaxSi va-<br />
JiSvilis SeZenas exmaureba. svaneTSi<br />
biWi rom gaCndeba, ityvian<br />
ojaxs qudosani, anu qudis<br />
damxuri Seematao. `jgrag liCaniSis~<br />
morRveul koSkze miyudebuli<br />
uzarmazari fiWvisa da<br />
naZvis Rvatebi (Wokebi), romel-<br />
Ta simaRle 4-dan 6 metramde<br />
meryeobs, swored dResaswaul<br />
`liCaniSobas~ gvaxsenebs. es<br />
dResaswauli agvistoSi `kviri-<br />
kobis~ Semdeg, imarTeba. aq mosuli<br />
mlocvel-mavedreblebis<br />
erTi nawili ojaxSi vaJiSvilis<br />
SeZenas SesTxovs mTavarmowames,<br />
meore nawili, romelsac wminda<br />
giorgim wina `liCaniSobaze~ Seusmina<br />
da qudosani gauCina, RvatebiT<br />
modis. Rvatebs wverSi<br />
sxvadasxva feris almebi aqvs mimagrebuli.<br />
sanaxaoba erTob TvalismomWrelia<br />
da masSi aris ra-<br />
Rac warmarTuli.<br />
ai, aseTi saintereso da burusiT<br />
mosili dResaswaulia<br />
`liCaniSoba~, romelsac<br />
adiSis es eklesia maspin-<br />
Zlobs. magram Cven axla<br />
sxva ram ufro gvainteresebs<br />
_ taZris interierSi<br />
Semonaxuli grafiti,<br />
anu Zveli nakawri<br />
warwera. da marTlac,<br />
darbazis CrdiloeT kedlis<br />
nalesobis Sua adgilas,<br />
wm. Tevdores freskaze,<br />
iatakis donidan<br />
170 sm. is simaRleze, ga-<br />
WirvebiT ikiTxeba gardamavali<br />
mxedruliT Sesrulebuli<br />
mokle warwera:<br />
`w(mida)o T(evdore-<br />
)e, S(eiwyal)e Cegi~.<br />
freskasa da warweras<br />
t.Seviakova da v.silogava<br />
XI saukunis pirveli<br />
meoTxediT aTariReben<br />
(ix.krebuli `svaneTi~ 2008<br />
w.gv.260 da saq. mecn. akademiis<br />
`moambe~ t.XXVIII #3, 1961 gv.<br />
384).<br />
ai, es Cegi SeiZleba CaiTvalos<br />
erisTav Cegianebis gvaris<br />
eponimad da fuZemdeblad. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, legendaruli buRa Cegianis<br />
nasaxlari, rogorc ukve av-<br />
RniSneT aqedan Sors aRaraa.<br />
rogorc irkveva, CegianTa<br />
erT Stos sxvadasxva dros gvaris<br />
forma Seucvlia da<br />
roCagianebi, ruCegianebi<br />
da riCgvanebi gamxdaran,<br />
rac, vfiqrob, samoqalaqo<br />
werilobiT ZeglebSi<br />
daSvebuli Secdomebis<br />
Sedegi unda iyos (savaraudod,<br />
(rostom Cegiani<br />
II roCegiani; rustam<br />
Cegiani II ruCegiani, an<br />
rejeb Cegiani II reCegiani<br />
da sxva). XIII-XIV<br />
saukuneTa erT `dawerilSi~<br />
naxsenebia giorgi<br />
roCagiani, romelic<br />
Tavis ojaxs lahilis<br />
moxerisis mTavarangelozs<br />
avedrebs. amis<br />
Semdeg Cegianebi pirvelobas<br />
gelovanebs uTmoben<br />
erTxans. <strong>15</strong>03 wels<br />
TeTnuldi<br />
Sedgenil sabuTSi `wigni aleqsandre<br />
mefisa svanTa mier jafariZeTa<br />
sisxlis gadaxdaze~ isini,<br />
dadeSkelianebTan erTad,<br />
ecerSi, anu balsqvemo svaneTSi<br />
Canan. CegianTa gvars roCegianebis,<br />
ruCegianebis, da ruCegifxes<br />
formiT vxvdebiT XVI, XVII,<br />
XVIII saukuneTa sabuTebSi (ix.<br />
`svaneTis werilobiTi Zeglebi<br />
t.I) da bolos, cnobilia, xaldes<br />
ajanyebis erT-erTi moTave<br />
momi Cegiani, romelzec erT-er-<br />
Ti wina mogzaurobisas visaubreT.<br />
xalde, romelic SemdgomSi<br />
CegianTa gviandeli samosaxlo<br />
sofeli gaxda, adiSidan samxre-<br />
TiT, xaldeWalis xeobaSia da<br />
zafxulSi fexiT gadasvla SeiZleba,<br />
magram Cven legendebis<br />
mxares aq, adiSWalis saTaveebSi,<br />
vemSvidobebiT.<br />
gela qoqiaSvili<br />
avtoris fotoebi<br />
adiSis erT-erTi nasoflari;<br />
Cegis grafiti `liCaniSSi~;<br />
jixvis rqebi eklesiis winkarSi.
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
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moTxovna igzavneboda internet-kafedan<br />
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_ arsi?<br />
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_ droebiTi moTavsebis izolatorSi<br />
Sesvlis mdgomareobiT, orive<br />
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daTvalierebis oqmis (#021110 da<br />
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muStebisa da wixlebiT<br />
cemis garda, gamomZiebelma badri<br />
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magram gansakuTrebuli sisastikiT<br />
tariel alaviZe gamoirCeoda.<br />
iciT, rom prokurorma urCia elizbaraSvils,<br />
rom uaryoT policielebis<br />
Cadenili kanondarRvevebi,<br />
raTa uaryofiTad ar asaxuliyo<br />
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ar gaukeTebdnen, kinaRam gardaicvala<br />
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romelmac cixeSi gaagzavna<br />
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sasamarTlom orives miusaja<br />
30 da 32 weli,<br />
_ ratom miiviwyes saproceso<br />
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uaryves braldebulebma?<br />
_ getyviT, ra saxis garigebas<br />
sTavazobdnen, is ki ara, aramed,<br />
Tqvi, rom Seni Cadenilia danaSauli,<br />
cocxalia Tu mkvdari, gvaCvene<br />
sadac aris solomonia da Sen mogisjiT<br />
6 wels, Sen Svils ki, pirobiTs<br />
mivusjiT da darbazidan gavuSvebTo.<br />
normaluri adamiani, Tu<br />
marTla misi gakeTebuli iqneboda<br />
es saqme, xom aRiarebda, magram misi<br />
gakeTebuli ar aris da rogor aCvenos<br />
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saqmem gadainacvla saapelacio<br />
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da amis Semdeg moixsna gamo-<br />
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6-6 weli mouklo da 24 da<br />
26 weli dautova.<br />
danarCeni ucvlelad darCa.<br />
_ mosamarTlisa da prokuroris<br />
vinaoba Tu gaxsovT? erTi wuTiT,<br />
Tu Tanxis gamoZalva moixsna, adami-<br />
saidan gaaCinos gamqrali<br />
adamiani mama-Svilma, romlebsac<br />
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darCa?<br />
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ooo! _ rogorc `simarTlis<br />
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marine cercvaZe (masze jer ar weria),<br />
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sxdomis Tavmjdomare iyo mzia lom-<br />
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maia oSxareli. uamravi moTxovna<br />
iyo dawerili braldebulebis mxridan,<br />
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TviT prezidentis saxelze, rom maT<br />
wamebaze Catarebuliyo samedicino<br />
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darTo neba _ rad ginda, yurs aravin<br />
ibertyavs... sisxlis samarTlis<br />
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_ dReis mdgomareobiT ra xdeba.<br />
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mouxsnes mamas, viTom solomonias<br />
gamtacebels, 6 weli Svils,<br />
romelsac darCa 26 weli, radgan<br />
mas TiTqos jibeSi tyviebi hqonda.<br />
_ rogorc vxedav, yvela instancia<br />
mogivliaT, strasburgi dagr-<br />
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rom Tu strasburgSi gadawyvetT<br />
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daiwyeba dapatimrebul mama-Svilze<br />
zewola?<br />
_ albaT, magram saidan gaaCinon<br />
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da 24-26 weli sapyrobileSi<br />
yofna ro<strong>gori</strong> gasaZlebia 57 wlis<br />
asakovani kacisa da misi 32 wlis<br />
diabetiani SvilisTvis?<br />
maia WeliZe<br />
zustad ormoci<br />
wlis win, vanosaviT<br />
ubralo “jibeebgamofxekilisofleli”<br />
komkavSireli bi-<br />
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vasil pavloviC mJavanaZis<br />
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vanosaviT zustad Svidi weli<br />
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kriminalur samyaros... unda<br />
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`saerTo gazeTi~
26 saerTo gazeTi #31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
50 wlisa Sesrulda cnobili qarTveli poeti qalbatoni nino<br />
sixaruliZe. amasTan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos mweralTa kav-<br />
Sirma iubilars misalmeba gaugzavna. misalmebaSi naTqvamia:<br />
Zvirfaso nino!<br />
saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiri, Tqveni megobari qarTveli<br />
mwerlebi siyvaruliT mogesalmebian Tanamedrove qarTuli poeziis<br />
erT-erT Cinebul warmomadgenels da gilocaven RirsSesaniSnav<br />
TariRs Tqvens cxovrebaSi _ dabadebis 50 wlisTavs.<br />
Tqveni poeturi naTloba 1977 wels Sedga, rodesac gazeT<br />
`axalgazrda komunistSi~ gamoaqveyneT pirveli leqsi `Cveni Taoba~.<br />
mas Semdeg Tqveni leqsebi sistematurad qveyndeba qarTul<br />
saliteraturo Jurnal-gazeTebSi, gamodis calke wignebad.<br />
Tqveni poeturi krebulebi `maradiuli karnavali~, `Sors~,<br />
`iribi bluzi~ qarTveli mkiTxvelis cxoveli interesiT sargeblobs.<br />
am interess ki, upirveles yovlisa, is ganapirobebs, rom<br />
fiqriani poeti xarT, tkivilebiTa<br />
da sevdiTaa gajerebuli<br />
Tqveni leqsebi, Tqveni poeziis<br />
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qceul cxovrebis napirs da<br />
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lamobs; warsuli jibeSi napovni<br />
xurdasaviT axsenebs Tavs<br />
da mosvenebas ar aZlevs; cxovrobs<br />
gagiJebidan gagiJebamde,<br />
RamisTevidan RamisTevamde da<br />
Tu ram aZlebinebs am dawyevlil<br />
wuTisofelSi, is aZlebinebs,<br />
rom leqsi misTvis aTas-<br />
nino sixaruliZe _ 50<br />
jer dalewili sxeulis frTebs warmoadgens, esmis sulis uRranebidan<br />
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unda movlenodnen sawuTros da Cvenamde ver miaRwies; siyvarulisTvis<br />
da bednierebisTvis gaCenils ver gaugia, ras erCian, gaxurebuli,<br />
gavarvarebuli SanTiT ratom udaRaven sulsa Tu sxeuls;<br />
qarTvelia, TxemiT terfamde qarTveli da tkiva misi sam-<br />
Soblo, _ codvis kalod qceuli saqarTvelo...<br />
Tqveni poeziis saukeTeso nimuSebi TaArgmnilia ucxour enebze.<br />
nayofier sazogadoebriv moRvaweobas eweviT. sxvadasxva dros<br />
muSaobdiT Jurnal `ciskris~ litmuSakad, `saqtelefilmis~ sascenaro<br />
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daviT aRmaSeneblis universitetis leqtorad da Jurnal<br />
`sdasus~ redaqtorad. yvela Tanamdebobaze muSAobisas mudam<br />
saqmis siyvaruli, profesionalizmi, kolegialoba, saocari siTbo,<br />
sinaze da kdemamosileba gamogarCevdaT.<br />
Cveno nino!<br />
kidev erTxel gulmxurvaled gilocavT saiubileo TariRs<br />
Cvens Zvirfas kolegas, mSvenier poetsa da moqalaqes, gisurvebT<br />
janmrTelobas, didxans sicocxles da Tqveni sanukvari ocnebebis<br />
ganxorcielebas.<br />
saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiri<br />
zamTrispiruli<br />
cxovreba, romelic sicocxles ara hgavs,<br />
sicocxle, romelsac ar hqvia cxovreba, _<br />
wuTobiT, wamobiT, darobiT, avdrobiT<br />
miqreba, micxreba da miizmoreba.<br />
iseTi zantia, iseTi blantia,<br />
erT leqsad ar miRirs, Tu vinme mendoba,<br />
amaod movisxi dedoflis mantia,<br />
ar amcda xundebi da drois mxevloba.<br />
is TeTri vardebi, CemTvis rom agrove,<br />
is Cumi dardebi, sxva rom ver amCnevda<br />
Cadna da CainTqa uxiak WorebSi,<br />
es wuTisofeli fetvad rom abnevda.<br />
ra darCa? ra damrCa? landebTan lacici,<br />
gacrecil ocnebis amoqviTineba,<br />
gadarCa farfata fanteli?<br />
ar vici,<br />
ar vici, gangebam ragvarad ineba.<br />
da sanam guls bolo imedi datovebs,<br />
gulo, sanam Sen wil samsalas Sesvamde,<br />
miTxari, zamTrispirs vin gamiaprilebs<br />
vinRa mimacilebs im bolo leqsamde?!<br />
ras erCiT sulxan-sabas?<br />
axlaxan `sabas~ premiis<br />
nominantTa sia gamoqveynda.<br />
nominanti, sportis enaze<br />
Tu vityviT, niSnavs imas,<br />
rom esa Tu is avtori<br />
naxevarfinalSi gasula.<br />
am naxevarfinalistTa<br />
Soris cnobil qarTvel<br />
mwerlebTan erTad amovikiTxe<br />
ramdenime<br />
iseTi `mwerlis~ gvaric,<br />
romelTac sazogadoebas<br />
Tavi gaacnes,<br />
rogorc dedmamis,<br />
samSoblos,<br />
warsulis, rwmenis,<br />
adamianuri Rirebulebebis<br />
maginebelma<br />
`epataJistebma~. mag:<br />
aw ukve sayovelTaod<br />
cnobili burWulaZe,<br />
Samugia naxevarfinal-<br />
Sia. amaT kidev erTi epataJisti<br />
vinme giorgi maisuraZe<br />
damatebia. damatebiaTo,<br />
vambob, radgan<br />
am ukanasknelis<br />
mwerlobis Sesaxeb,<br />
`Cemda samarcxvinod~,<br />
dRemde araferi vuwyodi.<br />
Cavxede mis `eleqtronul<br />
Semoqmedebas~ da Tma yalyze damidga.<br />
`mwerals~ sZuls samSoblo,<br />
misi warsuli, Tanamedrove zneobrivi<br />
avtoritetebi, bunebrivi<br />
seqsualuri orientaciis adamianebi.<br />
me ver vakadreb mkiTxvels<br />
misi frazebis citirebas _ Caxedos<br />
mis gverds internetSi<br />
da ramdenime gamaognebel kiTxvaze<br />
ipovis kidev ufro gamaognebel<br />
pasuxebs. magaliTad, saidan<br />
modis frTiani gamoTqma _<br />
mglis Tavze saxarebas kiTxulobeno?<br />
arc meti, arc naklebi,<br />
iqidan, rom vaxtang gorgasals<br />
Turme hqonda ori Tavi,<br />
erTi adamianis da meore mglis.<br />
gorgasals rom saxarebis kiTxviT<br />
veraferi gaagebines, ai, aqedan.<br />
a, kaci, gorgasalic martivad<br />
aburTava da `didebuli~<br />
etimologiuri wiaRsvlac SemogvTavaza.<br />
misi azriT, ilia WavWavaZes<br />
drodadro awuxebda Suasaukuneobrivi<br />
bneleTis azrebi, ratom?<br />
imitom rom ilia qarTvel<br />
dedas mouwodebs, Svili aRzardos<br />
mamulisaTvis msxverplga-<br />
Rebis mzaobiT. aki, misma disSvilma<br />
kote afxazma daxvretis<br />
win jalaTebs SesZaxa kidec _<br />
bednieri var, rom saqarTvelos-<br />
Tvis vkvdebio. aseTi `rame-rumeebi~<br />
pat. maisuraZes nervebs uSlis.<br />
sasacilod ar hyofnis<br />
warsuli gmirebis, gorgaslidan<br />
moyolebuli qaquca ColoyaSvilis<br />
CaTvliT, dideba. axla ama-<br />
Ti demiTologizacia unda vqnao<br />
(erTaderTi, viszec enis moCleqiT<br />
laparakobs, aris eduard<br />
SevardnaZe)<br />
es, liberali varo, gaiZaxis,<br />
is ki, vTqvaT, filipe maxaraZe,<br />
bolSeviki iyo, amaT Soris er-<br />
Ti didi ram saerTo vnaxe: orives<br />
erTnairad sZuls warsuli,<br />
samSoblos cneba, sarwmunoeba.<br />
patriotizmi, maisuraZis mtkicebiT,<br />
provincializmis er-<br />
Ti ubadruki gamovlinebaa.<br />
sarwmunoeba misTvis<br />
Sua saukuneebis bnele-<br />
Tis gadmonaSTia, am<br />
bneleTis saxe ki axlandeli,<br />
misi azriT,<br />
fundametalisti patriarqi<br />
ilia meore<br />
gaxlavT. xolo `saqarTvelosmarTlmadideblurieklesia<br />
Tavadaa yovelgvari<br />
sulierebisa<br />
da sulieri kulturis<br />
mTavari mo-<br />
Zule~ (ix. misi werili`marTlmadidebloba,<br />
rogorc<br />
qarTveli liberalebis<br />
ukanaskneli Tav-<br />
Sesafari~.<br />
amaze met WkuanaRr-<br />
Zob azrebsac amoikiTxavT<br />
mis `SemoqmedebaSi~,<br />
rasac axla<br />
moferebiT epataJs<br />
eZaxian. ker-<br />
Zod, qarTveli mamakacebi<br />
warsulSi erTianad mamaTmavlebi<br />
yofilan. maisuraZe<br />
`usabuTod~ arafers wers. ai,<br />
`sabuTic~. ratom gaSiSvlda<br />
da waisva Tafli cotne dadianma?<br />
maisuraZis azriT, cotnes<br />
am saqcielidan Cans, rom es<br />
Cveni winaprebis wesi iyo, raTa<br />
Semdeg erTmaneTisTvis SiSveli<br />
sxeuli elokaT. ra CamoTvlis<br />
kidev uamrav sisaZagles misi<br />
epataJebidan. sadRac levan<br />
bregaZem dawera: yvela adamians<br />
aqvs ufleba, iyos Serekili.<br />
daaarson Serekilebis gazeTi<br />
da, rac undaT, is beWdon iqo.<br />
aseve yvela adamians aqvs ufleba,<br />
hqondes avadmyofuri azrebi,<br />
magram ra daaSava saqarTvelosTvis<br />
tanjulma sulxansaba<br />
orbelianma,<br />
rom misi saxelobis<br />
premiiT davasaCuqroT<br />
es avadmyofebi?<br />
ratom vafurTxebT<br />
saflav-<br />
Si did sabas? am sam-<br />
Soblos uarmyofelebisTvis<br />
daaweseT, batonebo,<br />
filipe maxara-<br />
Zis an sergo orjoniki-<br />
Zis saxelobis premiebi<br />
da CamourigeT, ramdenic<br />
gnebavT. vin mamaZaRli<br />
amoiRebs xmas, magram saba<br />
codvaa, codva.<br />
P.S. netav, im mwerlebis<br />
gvarebic gamoqveynebuliyo,<br />
amaT rom ajobes<br />
da naxevarfinalSi<br />
gavidnen. amaTze uaresi,<br />
netav, ra daweres?<br />
cici gurieli<br />
yvelaferi zemoTqmuli<br />
mkiTxvels daujereblad<br />
rom ar eCvenos,<br />
gTavazobT or amonarids<br />
maisuraZis da burWula-<br />
Zis Semoqmedebidan, danarCeni<br />
mkiTxvelma gansajos...<br />
giorgi maisuraZe: `robotebis<br />
yvavilebi~<br />
qarTvelebi, Tumca gadaeCvivnen<br />
adamianis xorciT kvebas, magram<br />
TaflSi Sekmazul ymawvilTa<br />
SeWamadi mainc daileqa maT xsovnaSi<br />
da am tkbili gemos mosagonrad<br />
saukuneebis Semdegac ki<br />
sruldeboda Taflcxebis ritualebi,<br />
romelic „cotnaobis“ saxeliT<br />
iyo cnobili. am ZirZveli<br />
dResaswaulis dros ymawvilkacebi<br />
SiSvel sxeulze Tafls<br />
icxebdnen da mere erTmaneTs<br />
lokavdnen, sanam XIII saukuneSi<br />
monRolebma sabolood ar aRkve-<br />
Tes futkris naJurTan egzom<br />
mwyrali mopyroba, rodesac qar-<br />
Tveli erisTavebi monRolTa yaens<br />
dediSobila da Taflwasmulebi<br />
Seegebnen da imdenxans<br />
ikotriales darcxvenili yaenis<br />
karvis win, sanam zooparkidan<br />
damSeuli daTvebi ar gamocvivdnen<br />
da enagadmogdebulni tanmomwone<br />
qarTvel didebulebs ar<br />
daerivnen. am ubedur SemTxvevas<br />
samegrelos Wabuki erisTavis sicocxlec<br />
ki Seewira, romelic<br />
mSier monRol daTvs Semoexramuna.<br />
erisTavis saxeli ucnobia,<br />
magram adamianTa xsovnaSi mas<br />
„cotne daTviani“ ewoda, droTa<br />
ganmavlobaSi ki „cotne dadianad“<br />
gadakeTda. amdenad, saxeli<br />
„cotne“ qarTvelTa uZveles<br />
ltolvas Taflisa da misiT sakuTari<br />
tanis dazelva-alokvisaken<br />
Seicavs, xolo sityva „Tavisufleba“<br />
ki Taflis uflebidan<br />
warmosdgeba.<br />
zaza burWulaZe<br />
nawyveti wignidan `dilis<br />
multimedia~<br />
`Tavidan cxeli Sxapis qveS<br />
vdgebi, tanis skrabiT yelamde<br />
safuZvlianad viqafebi. cvilis<br />
granulebi da qoqosis burbuSela<br />
kans sasiamovnod mimasaJebs.<br />
wyals maqsimalurad vaciveb,<br />
kbilebsac Cemeburad<br />
vixexav. ori ramea, rasac,<br />
albaT, veRar gadaveCvevi:<br />
diliT civ Sxaps da<br />
kbilebis xexvas<br />
RrZilebis dasisxlianebamde.<br />
mainc ar<br />
mivardeba. skrabis<br />
motkbo aromati<br />
isev bobos maxsenebs.<br />
mere ra, rom<br />
spermas ar ylapavs,<br />
axla didi siamovnebiT<br />
mivcemdi pirSi.<br />
CemTvis qalebi or<br />
nawilad iyofa: vinc<br />
ylapavs da vinc igubebs.<br />
dakvirvebuli var, vinc<br />
igubebs, ukeTes minets ake-<br />
Tebs, vidre is, vinc ylapavs.<br />
rasakvirvelia, es kanonzomiereba<br />
sulac araa.<br />
ubralod, Cemi gamocdilebiT<br />
ase vici. magaliTad, bobo<br />
ar ylapavs, magram minets<br />
qalRmerTiviT akeTebs. rom va-<br />
Taveb, piri spermiT evseba, guli<br />
ki locvebiT. esaa namdvili<br />
mineti. wmindanTa<br />
disciplina pirSi sperma,<br />
gulSi locva, xelSi y...~<br />
redaqciisgan: mkiTxvels bodiSs vuxdiT am uxamsi fragmentebis gamoqveynebisTvis,<br />
Tumca sabodiSo, pirvelyovlisa, albaT, imas aqvs, vinc amgvar<br />
makulaturas mwerlobad asaRebs da arcTu iSviaTad literaturuli<br />
premiebisken mimaval gzaze mwvane Suqs unTebs.
#31 (2<strong>15</strong>), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.<br />
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_ gancxadeba Svilad ayvanis<br />
Sesaxeb Seitaneba sasamarTloSi<br />
mSvileblis an Svilad asayvanis<br />
sacxovrebeli adgilis mixedviT.<br />
* * *<br />
_ SemiZlia Tu ara samoqalaqo<br />
saqmeze gavakeTo SeniSvnebi sxdomis<br />
oqmTan dakavSirebiT da ra vadebSi?<br />
_ sxdomis oqmze xelmoweridan<br />
3 dRis vadaSi mxareebsa da<br />
maT warmomadgenlebs SeuZliaT<br />
waradginon TavianTi SeniSvnebi<br />
oqmTan dakavSirebiT, miuTiTon<br />
mis usworobasa da usrulobaze,<br />
SeniSvnebi unda daerTos saqmes.<br />
SeniSvnebs saqmis ganmxilveli mosamarTle<br />
(sasamarTlo), ganixilavs<br />
maTi Setanidan 5 dRis vada-<br />
Si da gamoaqvs ganCineba SeniSvnebis<br />
Sesaxeb (samoqalaqo saproceso<br />
kodeqsis 291-e muxli).<br />
* * *<br />
_ SeiZleba Tu ara daqorwinebuli<br />
piris Svilad ayvana?<br />
_ Svilad ayvana SeiZleba ara<br />
marto arasrulwlovani bavSvis,<br />
aramed srulwlovani pirisac. daqorwinebac<br />
SeiZleba rogorc<br />
arasrulwlovani, ise srulwlovani<br />
piris. roca arasrulwlovani<br />
piri qorwindeba, igi srul qmedi-<br />
Tunarianobas iZens. srulwlovan<br />
daqorwinebul pirs isedac gaaCnia<br />
igi. amitom, yvela SemTxvevaSi kanoniT,<br />
daqorwinebuli piris Svilad<br />
ayvanisas sxva pirobebTan er-<br />
Tad saWiroa misi meuRlis Tanxmobac.<br />
aseTi Tanxmoba ar iqneba<br />
saWiro, Tu misi miReba SeuZlebelia<br />
meuRlis araqmediTunarianobis<br />
an imis gamo, rom misi sacxovrebeli<br />
adgili ucnobia.<br />
* * *<br />
_ var mopasuxe. samwuxarod,<br />
SesagebelSi ar mivuTiTe im garemoebebze,<br />
romlebic, Cemi azriT,<br />
mniSvnelovani iyo. roca movindome<br />
am garemoebebis dafiqsireba saqmis<br />
ganxilvis dros, sasamarTlom ar<br />
miiRo Cemi mtkicebulebebi. ramdenad<br />
kanonieria es?<br />
_ am SekiTxvaze ase calsaxad<br />
Cemi mxridan Znelia pasuxis gacema,<br />
magram mTlianad gagacnobT samoqalaqo<br />
saproceso kodeqsis 219e<br />
muxlis Sinaarss da daskvna Tvi-<br />
Ton gamoitaneT.<br />
219-e muxlis I nawili: mxareebi<br />
SezRudulni arian, axsna-ganmartebis<br />
mosmenisas waradginon<br />
axali mtkicebulebebi an miuTiTon<br />
axal garemoebebze, romelTa Sesaxebac<br />
ar yofila miTiTebuli sar-<br />
Celsa Tu SesagebelSi an saqmis<br />
momzadebis stadiaze, garda im Sem-<br />
Txvevisa, roca maT Sesaxeb Tavis<br />
droze sapatio mizeziT ar iyo<br />
gancxadebuli.<br />
II nawili: am muxlis II nawiliT<br />
gaTvaliswinebul SemTxvevaSi<br />
axali mtkicebulebebis wardgena<br />
an axal garemoebebze miTiTeba ar<br />
SeiZleba gaxdes saqmis ganxilvis<br />
gadadebis safuZveli. garda im Sem-<br />
Txvevebisa, Tu wardgenili mtkicebulebebis<br />
sirTulidan anda moculobidan<br />
gamomdinare, maTi gacnoba<br />
sasamarTlo sxdomaze SeuZlebelia,<br />
agreTve, Tu mxare argumentirebulad<br />
miuTiTebs mtkicebulebebis<br />
wardgenis Taobaze da sasamar-<br />
Tlo miiCnevs, rom warsadgen mtkicebulebebs<br />
arsebiTi mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs saqmisaTvis.<br />
* * *<br />
_ Semaqvs sarCeli iuridiuli<br />
piris winaaRmdeg. romel<br />
sasamarTloSi Sevitano?<br />
_ samoqalaqo saproceso<br />
kodeqsis me-<strong>15</strong> muxlis I nawilis<br />
mixedviT, sarCeli iuridiuli<br />
piris mimarT sasamar-<br />
Tlos waredgineba iuridiuli<br />
piris adgilsamyoflis mixedviT.<br />
* * *<br />
_ sad aRvZraT sarCeli,<br />
rodesac mopasuxes ara aqvs<br />
sacxovrebeli adgili?<br />
_ samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis<br />
me-<strong>15</strong> muxlis me-2 nawilis<br />
mixedviT, Tu mopasuxes ara aqvs<br />
sacxovrebeli adgili, sarCeli ganixileba<br />
sasamarTloSi saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriaze misi adgilsamyofelis<br />
mixedviT, xolo Tu mopasuxis<br />
adgilsamyofeli ucnobia,<br />
maSin sarCeli SeiZleba aRiZras<br />
misi ukanaskneli sacxovrebeli adgilis<br />
mixedviT.<br />
saqarTvelos mweralTa kav-<br />
Siri Rrma mwuxarebiT iuwyeba<br />
mweral<br />
gizo WeliZis<br />
gardacvalebas da Tanaugr-<br />
Znobs gansvenebulis ojaxs.<br />
vesaubrebiT naTelmxilvels,<br />
qalbaton miranda Sarias.<br />
igi adamianis janmrTelobis<br />
mdgomareobas, awmyosa da momavals<br />
misi auris mixedviT gansazRvravs.<br />
_ qalbatono miranda, rogorc<br />
Tqven aRniSneT adamianis<br />
aura bevr informacias awvdis<br />
naTelmxilvels pirovnebis Sesaxeb,<br />
misi saSualebiT momavlis<br />
gansazRvrac ki SesaZlebelia.<br />
Tqven rodis agexilaT es,<br />
egreT wodebuli, mesame Tvali?<br />
_ Cem SemTxvevaSi maprovocirebeli<br />
gaxda avaria, rasac<br />
Cemi klinikuri sikvdili mohyva.<br />
am ambis Semdeg xilvebi maleve<br />
ar damwyebia. jer intui-<br />
cia gamimaxvilda, rasac uneblied<br />
gavifiqrebdi, cota xanSi<br />
realurad xdeboda, mere amas<br />
mohyva ynosviTi winaTgrZnoba.<br />
naTesavTan viyavi stumrad da<br />
wamlebis suni meca ise, rom siaxloves<br />
arc erTi wamali ar<br />
ido, sul male saavadmyofoSi<br />
moxvda. Aaseve, Tu raime sasiamovno<br />
nelsurnelebas vigrZnobdi,<br />
kargi ambavi unda Semetyo,<br />
usiamovno sunis SegrZnebas cudi<br />
ambavi mohyveboda xolme da<br />
ase Semdeg. erT dResac damewyo<br />
Tavis tkivilebi, es axali ar<br />
iyo CemTvis, avariis Semdeg periodulad<br />
mqonda, wamlebs sistematurad<br />
viRebdi, hoda,<br />
erT aseT dRes Cemi<br />
megobris aura davinaxe,<br />
jer SemeSinda, magram mere<br />
mivxvdi, rom raRac<br />
gansakuTrebuls vxedavdi.<br />
Ggaviare konsultacia<br />
erT-erT cnobil parafsiqologTan,<br />
miviRe<br />
sakmao informacia aurisa<br />
da paranormaluri movlenebis<br />
Sesaxeb. Tan adamianebs<br />
vakvirdebodi, feris<br />
da formis mixedviT<br />
diagnozs vsvamdi da mis<br />
mdgomareobas da xandaxan<br />
momavalsac vsazRvravdi.<br />
_ gyavT moZRvari da<br />
Tu icis man Tqveni Tvisebis<br />
Sesaxeb?<br />
_ diax, myavs. icis<br />
man rom xilvebi maqvs. Tavidanve<br />
movuyevi yvelaferi. ar gahkvirvebia,<br />
radgan TviTonac hqonia<br />
xilvebi, amitomac esmis Cemi.<br />
oRond mkiTxa yavis naleqs<br />
an karts xom ar iyenebo. AarameTqi.<br />
mTavaria amaTze ar imkiTxavo<br />
da is niWi, rac RmerTma<br />
moganiWa, adamianebis dasaxmareblad<br />
gamoiyeneo. man icis,<br />
rom raRac zeciuri Zala miCvenebs<br />
am yvelafers da ar<br />
vmkiTxaob.<br />
_ es rac Seexeba TiToeul<br />
pirovnebebs. zogadi xilvebi Tu<br />
gqoniaT sazogadoebriv da politikur<br />
movlenebTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
da ras gvetyviT mimdinare<br />
procesebze?<br />
_ axla iseTi procesebi midis<br />
saqarTveloSi, yvelas goneba<br />
nebiT Tu uneblied amaTkenaa<br />
mimarTuli. ver getyviT vcdebi<br />
Tu ara, magram, Cemi TvaliT me<br />
baton vano merabiSvilSi im<br />
kacs vxedav (me ra, Tqma unda<br />
aura meubneba amas pirvel rig-<br />
Si, magram mainc ase vTqvaT) romelic<br />
“xelebs ibans”, rom mere<br />
darCes `sufTa~. miuTiTos sxvaze:<br />
ai, batono, Cemze ras ambobdiT<br />
da am kacma ra gaakeTa. mas<br />
surs sisufTa darCes, ar daiRvaros<br />
sisxli misi xelidan,<br />
arc daRvrida. is ki, vinc mis<br />
adgilzea, pirsisxliania. asec<br />
awyobs prezidents, radgan igi<br />
kudis mouqnevlad ar wava.<br />
Aaseve: iqneba biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
likvidaciis mcdeloba, magram<br />
gadarCeba. dros da adgils ar<br />
miCvenebs.<br />
_ TviTon nacionalebis gundSi<br />
Sinaganad ra situacia<br />
Cans?<br />
_ nacionalebSi axlo momavalSi<br />
vxedav did Sejaxebas.<br />
ratomRac meCvena axalaiebisa<br />
da koduebis didi dapirispireba,<br />
rac saaSkaraozec gamova da<br />
situacia Zalian daiZabeba. xilvidan<br />
da auridan gamomdinare,<br />
maTgan modis sisastike, ulmobeloba.<br />
didi sartyma modis dasavleTis<br />
mxridan. Apr vici, afxazeTi<br />
vTqva Tu rogor, samegreloc<br />
meniSna. sisxli cota Tu<br />
bevri, mainc unda daiRvaros.<br />
Ddartyma provocirebulia ruseTis<br />
mxridan.<br />
_ es ambebi arCevnebamde Tu<br />
merea mosalodneli?<br />
_ zustad ver getyviT, magram<br />
ar gamovricxav rom arCevnebamde<br />
Zalian daiZabos situacia.<br />
ratomRac Zalian didi Si-<br />
Si maqvs seqtembris 20 ricxvis<br />
Semdgomi dReebisa, dakonkreteba<br />
ar SemiZlia, ratom. gansakuTrebiT<br />
ar momwons seqtembris<br />
bolo xuTi dRe.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
oqtomberSi meniSneba kvamli,<br />
Sida brZola, dapirispireba<br />
TviTon nacionalebSi. aseve<br />
bevri maTgani fiqrobs ivaniSvils<br />
SeuerTdes, sanam droa.<br />
_ biZina ivaniSvilis Sesaxeb<br />
ras gvetyviT?<br />
_ me ukve giTxariT, rom<br />
aura marto janmrTelobaze ar<br />
miuTiTebs. masze garemoc moqmedebs.<br />
ivaniSvils Zalian cudi<br />
garemo hyavs. rasakvirvelia,<br />
arian iq erTguli, saqmiani adamianebi,<br />
magram ufro met intrigans<br />
vxedav, cudi energia modis<br />
maTgan. me minda vTxovo, gavafrTxilo<br />
igi: mivides misTvis<br />
ndobiT aRWurvil pirTan da<br />
aura gaawmendinos, raTa sasike-<br />
Tod daiZras misi saqmeebi. Se-<br />
`rTuli periodi dadgeba,<br />
Semodgomaze bevri siZnelis<br />
gadalaxva mouwevs qarTvel<br />
sazogadoebas. unda vilocoT _<br />
es araa litoni sityvebi. locviT<br />
zRva brunavso, _ naTqvamia~<br />
bindulia misi aura, ar asxivebs<br />
ise, rogorc saWiroa.<br />
_ ro<strong>gori</strong> aura aqvs prezidents?<br />
_ Zalian gaWuWyianebuli.<br />
biovelic gadaxrili aqvs, rac<br />
janmrTelobis gauaresebas ganapirobebs.<br />
ver vityvi gamosakvlevia-meTqi,<br />
Cemi Tqma rad unda,<br />
ukve bevrjer iqneba gamokvleuli,<br />
magram me vambob Cemi xedviT,<br />
rasac vxedav. cud mdgomareobaSi<br />
aqvs fsiqika, Tavi, urologiuri<br />
gzebi da guli _<br />
eseni arc erTi ar momwons.<br />
_ davubrundeT dRevandelobas.<br />
arCevnebis Semdgom rogor<br />
wava movlenebi?<br />
_ gaimarjvebs ivaniSvili,<br />
xalxi mxars<br />
uWers. magram me ratomRac<br />
mis gverdiT<br />
sul meniSneba politikuri<br />
figura qalis<br />
saxiT. qali dgeba mis<br />
gverdiT, mas igi mxars<br />
uWers. Mivani-<br />
Svils ar surs prezidentoba.<br />
iqneba<br />
erT-erTi mniSvnelovani<br />
figura politikaSi,<br />
magram ara pirveli.<br />
prezidentobas<br />
ki qals uTmobs, ver<br />
getyviT vis.<br />
_ kataklizmebi<br />
xom araa isev mosalodneli?<br />
_ wyaldidobebi ZiriTadad,<br />
miwisZvris talRasac vxedav,<br />
magram regions ver dagisaxelebT<br />
zustad, raRac mTebi meCveneba,<br />
magram sad, romeli, ver<br />
getyviT. amas minda davamato:<br />
unda vilocoT. bevri cudi ram<br />
xdeba da kidev mosalodnelia<br />
Cven qveyanaSi. sisxliT daiwyo<br />
quTaisis parlamentis mSenebloba<br />
da sisxliT damTavrda. xara-<br />
Coebi Camoingrao, xaraCo ki ara,<br />
mTeli kedelia Camongreuli, avtoqarxnis<br />
teritoriaze meCeTs<br />
aSeneben, iqac msxverpli iyo. amden<br />
miniSnebas gvaZlevs ufali<br />
da Cven yuradRebas ar vaqcevT.<br />
Tamuna qadagiZe<br />
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Cacmis stili da zodiaqos niSnebi<br />
cecxlis stiqia<br />
verZi - zodiaqos es niSani Semosvis araordinaruli<br />
stiliT gamoirCeva da daxvewil<br />
tansacmelsa da aqsesuarebs aniWebs upiratesobas.mandilosnebi<br />
ufro Ria feris<br />
kabebs irCeven,<br />
mamakacebi ki -<br />
iseT pijaksa da<br />
fexsacmels, romlebic<br />
maT ambiciebs<br />
ufro warmoa-<br />
Cens. Tumca, arc<br />
sportul tansacmelsa<br />
da fexsacmelze<br />
amboben<br />
uars.<br />
lomi - iseve,<br />
rogorc verZi da<br />
mSvildosani, lomic<br />
cecxlis stiqiis<br />
niSania, Tumca<br />
Cacmis stili ufro daxvewili aqvs. lomis<br />
mmarTveli planeta mzea, amitom, mis samosSi<br />
oqrosferi Warbobs. uyvars tyavis tansacmeli<br />
da aqsesuarebi (oqroTi da Zvirfasi qvebiT<br />
gawyobili).<br />
unda iTqvas, rom es niSani ufro met yuradRebas<br />
samarko niSansa da fass aqcevs, vidre<br />
formasa da ferebs, misi azriT, pijaki, romelic<br />
Zviri Rirs, xarisxianic iqneba.<br />
mSvildosani - miuxedavad imisa, rom am<br />
niSniT dabadebul adamianebs aqvT saSualeba<br />
kargad Seimoson, daxvewili gemovnebiT maincdamainc<br />
ver gamoirCevian. saerTod ki, mSvildosnebi<br />
ufro Cacmis sportul stils amjobineben<br />
da jinsSi ufro Tavisuflad grZnoben<br />
Tavs, vidre pier kardenis kostiumSi. mSvildosnebi<br />
ufro klasikur ferebs amjobineben -<br />
TeTrs, Savs, muq lurjs da mewamuls.<br />
miwis stiqia<br />
kuro - miwis stiqiis es niSani sasworsa<br />
da lomTan erTad daxvewili gemovnebiT gamoirCeva.<br />
kuros xom planeta venera marTavs -<br />
xelovnebis, silamazisa da esTetikis planeta.<br />
am niSniT dabadebul mandilosnebs bevri aqsesuari<br />
ar uyvarT da cdiloben, CacmulobaSi<br />
bevri wvrilmani ar iyos.<br />
es niSani gazafxulis ferebs aniWebs upiratesobas<br />
- mwvanes, Ria lurjsa da cisfers,<br />
Tumca, arc TeTrze ambobs uars.<br />
qalwuli - samossa da mis fers did yuradRebas<br />
aqcevs. Tumca metad praqtikulia da<br />
Tu kurosTvis, lomisTvis an Txis rqisTvis<br />
“dolCe da gabana” bevrs niSnavs, misTvis es<br />
marka araferia. yuradReba detalebze gadaaqvs<br />
da SesaZloa, aqsesuarebiT ise gemovnebianad<br />
morTos tansacmeli, rom imave “dolCe da gabanas”<br />
samoss arafriT Camouvardebodes. Tu<br />
vinmes Savisa da<br />
TeTris kombinacia<br />
uxdeba, es<br />
swored qalwulia.<br />
Txis rqa -<br />
mas, mTavaria,<br />
saSualeba hqondes<br />
da pirdapir<br />
parizisa da<br />
milanis modis<br />
saxlebs miakiTxavs<br />
da cnobildizainerebseqskluziur<br />
samoss daamzadebinebs.<br />
mkacr formebsa da ferebs irCevs. iSviaTad naxavT<br />
SortSi an sportul fexsacmelSi gamowyobils.<br />
aqsesuarebs iSviaTad an arasdros<br />
xmarobs. moswons priala Savi, nacrisferi,<br />
kremisferi, yavisferi.<br />
haeris stiqia<br />
tyupebi - is mxiaruli adamiania, uyvars<br />
mkveTri ferebi, mamakacebs - TeTri Sarvali,<br />
mandilosnebs ki - dekolte da Caxsnili qveda<br />
bolo, Tumca, arc Sarvalze amboben uars.<br />
tyupebi ar cdilobs Zvirad Rirebuli tansacmeli<br />
hqondes (mas urCevnia, rom SeiZinos bevri<br />
da iafi, vidre<br />
cota da Zviriani).<br />
Tumca yovel-<br />
Tvis kargad (haerovnad)gamoiyureba.<br />
ferebidan<br />
upiratesobas mxiarul<br />
ferebs<br />
aniWebs - narinjisfers,vercxlisfers.<br />
saswori - is yovelTvis axalgazrdul<br />
stils irCevs (Tundac, asakovani iyos). misi<br />
aqsesuarebi brwyinvalea, saswori-qali faifuris<br />
ulamazes Tojinas hgavs, saswori-mamakaci<br />
ki namdvili dendia. am niSans lurji, for-<br />
Toxlisferi da cisferi uxdeba.<br />
merwyuli - am niSans xiblavs yvelaferi<br />
“mkveTri”, originaluri da eqstravaganturi.<br />
Tumca, Tu erTi Sarvali an sviteri amoi-<br />
Cema, SesaZloa, mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi ataros.<br />
ferTa Sexamebac aratradiciuli da uCveulo<br />
icis, ase, rom Znelia gansazRvro, romel<br />
fers aniWebs upiratesobas.<br />
wylis stiqia<br />
kirCxibi - es niSani maincdamainc did yuradRebas<br />
ar aqcevs samoss da mis fers, radgan<br />
is ufro<br />
fulis dagrovebazeaaqcentirebuli,<br />
amitom,<br />
cdilobs, rac<br />
SeiZleba iafad<br />
Caicvas. mas aqvs<br />
“gamosasvleli”<br />
tansacmeli, romelsac<br />
didi<br />
rudunebiT inaxavs.<br />
wlebis matebasTan<br />
erTad<br />
ufro ixveweba<br />
da Semdeg ufro<br />
aqcevs yuradRebas<br />
Cacmas, Torem axalgazrdobaSi amaze TiTqmis<br />
ar fiqrobs.<br />
mas Zalian uxdeba mwvane, Savi, muqi yviTeli<br />
da vercxlisferi.<br />
morieli - mas boboqari xasiaTi aqvs da<br />
cdilobs CacmulobaSic gamomwvevi da mistikuri<br />
Strixebi Seitanos, erideba tansacmelsa<br />
da fexsacmelSi “didi fulis” daxarjvas. ferebidan<br />
irCevs - mewamuls, Sindisfers, Savsa<br />
da melnisfers.<br />
Tevzebi - es niSani “CarCoSi” ar jdeba<br />
da Tavisuflad SeuZlia, yvelanairi stilis<br />
samosi moirgos. Tumca es imas ar niSnavs, rom<br />
modas aris ayolili. ubralod, isini ise arian<br />
sakuTar warmosaxvaSi “Caflulni”, rom naklebi<br />
dro rCebaT ifiqron, ra unda Caicvan.<br />
Tevzis niSniT dabadebulni ufro lurj fers<br />
aniWeben upiratesobas.<br />
moamzada ana vadaWkoriam<br />
m i l o c v a<br />
`saerTo gazeTis~ Jurnalsits irine<br />
gogosaSvils vulocavT dabadebis<br />
dRes. vusurvebT janmrTelobas, BDBirBs,<br />
sixaruls. imravle da ixare<br />
Sens monatrebul SvilTan beqasTan da<br />
sayvarel SviliSvilebTan erTad.<br />
`saerTo gazeTis~<br />
redaqcia<br />
Tavsatexi<br />
sami sityvidan erTi
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