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qudze kaci unda gamovides!

Cven unda vibrZoloT sakuTari momavlisTvis, Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis!

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Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT da gavaerTianebT Cvens xalxs!

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saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

mimarTva zugdidelebs

Cemo Zvirfaso

zugdidelebo,

dgeba dro mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebisa,

rodesac Cven, rogorc maRali

pasuxismgeblobis grZnobis mqone sazogadoebamundaganvsazRvroT

Cveni qalaqisa

da raionis,

Cveni

qveynis bedi

da momavali.

gadavwyvitoT,

Sevgwevs Tu

ara unari vibrZoloTRirsebisa

da simarTlisdasacavad.

dRes, rogorc arasdros, gvWirdeba

sibrZne, vaJkacoba da goniereba swori

arCevanis gasakeTeblad. Cven Tavad unda

gadavwyvitoT, Tu ra gzas virCevT: sicruisa

da siyalbis, Zalmomreobisa da

abuCad agdebis, uuflebobisa da SiSis,

Tu uflisa da sazogadoebisagan nakarnaxevi

Rirsebisa da simarTlis gzas.

es arCevani dRes keTdeba!

amitomac gadavwyvite mivmarTo da

vTxovo yvela zugdidels, zugdidsa

Tu TbilisSi mcxovreb yvela Cems Tanamoqalaqes

_ dadeqiT simarTlis mxares!

es aucilebelia Cveni qveynis uke-

Tesi momavlisTvis, zugdidelebisTvis,

Cemi megrelebisTvis, WeSmariti qarTvelebisTvis.

aravin ar unda darCes gulgrili

arCevnebis mimarT. vinaidan dRes

gveZleva SesaZlebloba uari

vTqvaT Zaladobasa da siyalbeze

da arCevnebis gziT

SevcvaloT xelisufleba.

adamiani xom samyaros

gvirgvinia, romelsac uflisgan

eboZa Tavisufali

arCevanis ufleba. Cven valdebulni

varT, es ufleba

gamoviyenoT, davicvaT igi da

aravis mivceT SesaZlebloba

misi xelyofisa.

ukanaskneli 20 wlis

manZilze samegrelom

sxva regionebze

metad ganicada ekonomikuri

siduxWire. ZmaTamkvleli

omi, usamarTloba. samegrelo

gaRatakebul, daSinebul

da daTrgunul regionad gadaiqca,

umuSevari mosaxleobiTa

da damwuxrebuli, usixarulo

saxeebiT, patimarTa katastrofuli

raodenobiT.

dRes politikaSi yofna da sazogadoebrivi

aqtiuroba qveyanaSi arsebuli

mdgomareobis gaTvaliswinebiT, TiToeuli

CvenTaganis movaleobaa. es aris Cveni

Rirsebis saqme. Cven yvelas erTad

mogviwevs Selaxuli Tavmoyvareobis aRdgena

da ara mxolod dakarguli teritoriebis,

aramed Cveni afxazi da osi

Zmebis, debis dabruneba. Kkaci, romelic

dRes ganacxadebs “politika ar mainteresebso”,

samwuxarod miamitad ityuebs

Tavs. aravis gvaqvs ufleba viyoT gulgrili

politikis, saqarTveloSi mimdinare

procesebis da 1 oqtombris arCevnebis

mimarT. Cveni valdebulebaa gvqondes

pozicia - dRes aqaa Cveni didgori

da basiani.

rogorc araerTxel yofila

qveynis istoriaSi, dResac

samegrelom unda Seasrulos

gamaerTianeblis roli!

swori arCevanis gakeTebis

SemTxvevaSi, zugdids, zugdidis

mosaxleobas SeuZlia

Secvalos reJimi da cxovrebis

wesi ara marto am qalaq-

Si, aramed mTel qveyanaSi.

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erTxelac gavixsenoT vin varT, saidan

movdivarT, rogor gadavrCiT istoriis

ulmobel qartexilebSi. CvenSi kolxebis

sisxli Cqefs, im ZirZveli kolxebisa,

romlebmac TavianTi vaJkacobiT

dRemde mogviyvanes. gavufrTxildeT da

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davikargoT wuTisoflis mzakvrul labirinTebSi.

davicvaT sisxliTa da ofliT

gadarCenili sanukvari ganZi - “ena,

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angelozi Tavad zeciuri dedofali

- yovladwminda deda RvTismSobelia,

romlis kvarTi zugdidSi inaxeba da

romliTac ase vamayobT zugdidelebi. es

did pasuximgeblobas gvakisrebs!

dRes cvlilebebis droa!

amitomac vdgavar koalicia

“qarTuli ocnebis”, batoni

biZina ivaniSvilisa da irakli

alasanias gverdiT. iq, sadac

Cemi adgilia _ Cemi zugdidisa

da zugdidelebis

gverdiT. mjera da vici, rom

Cven erTad gavimarjvebT da

arCevnebiT SevcvliT dRevan-

del xelisuflebas. SevcvliT

im usaxur realobas, romelic

Cven zugdidqalaqSi,

mTels zugdidis raionSi da

sruliad saqarTveloSia.

rogorc amas winaT uwmindesma da

unetaresma brZana : “sikeTe yovelTvis

imarjvebs borotebaze”. madloba ufals

am didi wyalobisaTvis. Mmdabali SiSi

sabolood unda daiZlios. Cveni arCevani

unda iyos mtkice da gabeduli. simar-

Tlea is Zala, romelic SiSs amarcxebs.

dRes simarTle “qarTuli ocnebis” mxaresaa.

mjera, zugdidi da sruliad

saqarTvelo 1 oqtombers

Rirseul gamarjvebas moipovebs.

manamde ki 22 seqtembers

zugdidSi Sedgeba samagali-

To sazeimo Sexvedra baton

biZina ivaniSvilTan da koaliciis

sxva liderebTan.

yvelas gelodebiT, Cemo

gautexelo zugdidelebo!

merab qvaraia

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

zugdidis ofisis xelmZRvaneli

`saerTo gazeTi~

mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava

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interviu Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis

istoriis fakultetis II

kursis studentTan, koalicia `qarTuli

ocnebis~ vakis axalgazrduli frTis

wevrTan irakli kalandiasTan

_ irakli, ratom gadawyvite `qar-

Tul ocnebaSi~ gawevrianeba?

_ Cemi kursidan sul ramdenime varT,

vinc es gadawyvetileba miviReT. imitom,

rom migvaCnia, ase gagrZeleba aRar SeiZleba.

oqtombris arCevnebi gviaxlovdeba

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_ ris Secvlas gulisxmobT?

_ qveyanaSi masobrivi SiSia gamefebuli.

ar unda gagrZeldes ase, Tu ase kidev

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SiSs, mere ukve Zalian gviani iqneba.

amboben, kriminali da korufcia davamarcxeTo,

kriminali ar aris is, me ofisidan

`qarTuli ocnebis~ maisuriT rom

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iciT, Tqven, cota xnis win daakaves

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iq Seuracxyofac miuyenebiaT beqasTvis

samarTaldamcavebs.

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biZina ivaniSvilis fuliT xdeboda

pirveli korpusis remonti, Cven mexuTe

korpusSi viyaviT, kibeebi ise iyo moryeuli,

xis ficrebiT iyo gamagrebuli,

studentebs erTi suli gvqonda, rodis

garemontdeboda pirveli korpusi. yvela

fiqrobda, rom remonti universitetis

saxsrebiT midioda da aravin icoda, rom

ivaniSvili akeTebda amas. mere, roca gadavediT

I korpusSi, aravis uTqvams, rom

ivaniSvilis xeliT iyo galamazebuli

iqauroba.

gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.

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informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba

SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.

Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.

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me da Cemi megobrebi ise varT ganwyobili,

rom ar davTmobT Cvens arCevans da

es Zalian mixaria, Tumca guli mwydeba,

rom studentebis umetesobas, ZiriTadad

maT, vinc regionebidan aris Camosuli informacia

ar aqvT da yvelaferi ise hgoniaT,

rogorc saxelisuflebo televiziebidan

xedaven. aq, universitetSi, maTi

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romelsac dahyavs eseni eqskursiebze, politizebul

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Ziebebs atareben, aTasobiT Tanxebi ixarjeba

iseT rameebze da studentebs warmodgenac

ar aqvT, rom es maTi swavlis

gadasaxadia, maTive jibeebidan amoRebuli.

kmayofili arian, TavisTavad cxadia,

da mere isev am TviTmmarTvelobas irCeven

da ver xvdebian, ra situaciaa qveyanaSi.

me studentur gaerTianeba `studentur

xmaSic~ viyavi. vibrZodiT gaTavisuflebuliyo

universiteti marTvadi

TviTmmarTvelobisagan. TviTmmarTvelobam

ramdenjerme mTxova gavmxdariyavi

maTi jgufis wevri, magram ganvucxade

_ me var `qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri da

ar SemiZlia viyo TqvenTan, radgan ver

moviTmen calmxriv politikur propagandas

studentebSi-meTqi. ver miviRebdi

nacmoZraobis mier dagegmil Ronis-

ZiebebSi monawileobas, rogorc amas

TviTmmarTvelobis wevrebi akeTeben.

ver wavidodi, magaliTad, makkeinTan

samegrelom unda Tqvas

yvelaze Tamami sityva...

Sexvedraze da a.S. arada valdebulni

arian. Tbilisis merTan Sesaxvedrad

amas winaT grandiozuli Sexvedra moawyves.

tendenciuri rom aris yvelaferi, es

ar momwons. biZina ivaniSvils rom undodes

studentebTan Sexvedra, vin icis, ra

moxdeba. TviTmmarTveloba, albaT, xels

ki ar Seuwyobs, piriqiT, SeuSlis.

yvelaze metad axla vwuxvar

imaze, ra moxdeba samegreloSi

ivaniSvilTan Sexvedraze.

me samegrelos Svili

var da velodebi, rom samegrelom

unda Tqvas yvelaze

Tamami da gadamwyveti

sityva. rac samegreloSi

xdeba, es araa ubralo ambavi,

me vityodi, es aris faSizmis

umaRlesi done. pirdapir

Sedian saxlebSi da eubnebian

_ Svils dagiWer, mogiklav,

Tu ar dagviWer

mxars da a.S. magram me imedi

maqvs da yvelaze metad minda

axla es _ realobam molodins

gadaaWarbos, movides

Zalian bevri xalxi. aravis

ar unda SeeSindes Tundac

roland axalaiasi, sircxvilia,

roca am adamianis kandidaturas

sTavazoben asarCevad

zugdidis mosaxleobas,

Tan upirispireben

irakli alasanias, araa es

normaluri situacia.

me zugdidis aqciaze aucileblad waval,

SevuerTdebi megrelebis protests

Zaladobis da usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg.

unda gavimarjvoT, sxva gza ar aris!

iranda kalandaZe

am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

fragmentebi biZina ivaniSvilis

gamosvlis teqstidan

9 seqtembris aqciaze, TelavSi

dRes aq, patara kaxis

sataxto qalaqSi, gansakuTrebuli

simZafriT

vgrZnobT kaxeli kacis

gautexel Zalasa da sulier

simtkices, romelmac

ara erTxel ixsna

qarTlkaxeTica da mTeli

saqarTveloc sruli fizikuri

da sulieri ganadgurebisagan.

swored kaxel kacs,

baxtrionis gmirs, saqarTvelos

umamaces mxedars,

biZina ColoyaSvils ekuTvnis

STamomavlobisaTvis

anderZad danatovari sityvebi:

„...Zmebo, nu SevSindebiT,

rameTu sikvdili uneblieT

dabadebidanve Tan gvaxlavs...

da raki unda movkvdeT,

barem movkvdeT qristesTvis

da saqarTvelosTvis“.

me erTxel gamovTqvi

Cemi mosazreba erTerT

xidTan dakavSirebiT.

es sakaSvilma xelze daixvia

da braldebebi moayola,

rom me damangreveli

var, TviTon ki aRmSenebeli.

wlebis ganmavlobaSi

imaze vzrunavdi, rom Cemi

qveynis aRmSeneblobaSi mimeRo

monawileoba. da amaSi

araferia gansakuTrebuli,

radgan am qveynis Svili

var da es Cems movaleobad

mimaCnda da mimiCnia.

rac mikeTebia, yvelaferi

Tavad miiweres, yvelaferi,

da axla gamoRma medavebian,

damangreveli xaro.

roca rames akeTeb, rac

SeiZleba Cumad unda akeTo,

uxmaurod.

qveynis prezidenti Tavis

xalxs ganadgurebiT ar

emuqreba, kriminals da

mters ar uwodebs, es ar

xdeba arc erT civilizebul

qveyanaSi.

es unda damTavrdes!

Tavisi Zalauflebis SesanarCuneblad,

saakaSvili

cdilobs, orad gahyos

xalxi da samkvdro-sasicocxlod

gadahkidos erTmaneTs.

amgvari saSineli

dapirispirebis umwaresi

gakveTili oci wlis win

miiRo Cvenma xalxma, romelic,

mjera, imdenad dabr-

Zenebulia, rom ukve msgavsi

aRaraferi moxdeba.

yvelam TvalnaTliv dainaxa,

rom arc erTi xelisufleba

da politikuri

lideri ar Rirs imad, rom

misma momxreebma da mowinaaRmdegeebma

erTmaneTi sasikvdilod

gaimeton. amitom

saakaSvili, ramdensac

unda ecados, ver gaxleCs

Cvens xalxs.

cotac gauZeliT, xalxo,

erTi Tvec aRar darCa

arCevnebamde, da gpirdebiT,

rom momavali rTveli sxvanairi

iqneba.

me gamovnaxe kanonieri

gza dazaralebulTa

daxmarebisTvis da is 80milioniani

jarima, romelic

saxelmwifom ukanonod

damakisra, gadavricxe

stiqiis Sedegad dazaralebuli

mosaxleobis dasaxmareblad

da es fuli aucileblad

da uklebliv unda

moxmareboda xalxs!

xom xedavT Tqvenc, rom

es Tanxac ar movida Tqvenamde,

radgan xelisuflebam

isev sakuTari miznebis-

Tvis sxvadasxva regionSi

gadaanawila. arada es 80

milioni imis saSulebas

iZleoda, rom TiToeul

ojaxs kompensaciis saxiT

sul cota 4 aTas 700 lari

mieRo!

axla medavebian, Ti-

Tqos maswvaleblebs vemuqrebi

da vaSineb. ar daijeroT,

xalxo, piriqiT, Cemze

meti qomagi aravin geyolebaT,

icodeT!

me mxolod imas vambob,

rom dRes yvelaze uuflobo

da damcirebuli maswavleblebi

arian. dRes xelisufleba

maTgan srul mor-

Ciebas da msaxurebas moiTxovs,

maswavleblis ufrosia

yvela - ministri,

direqtori, mandaturi,

xSirad mSobelic ki.

maswavleblis avtoriteti

mTlianad dakninebulia.

maswavleblebo, qeds

vixri Tqven winaSe!

visac gindaT, rom

Cveni Svilebi karg ganaTlebas

ewafebodnen, kargi

da iafi saxelmZRvaneloebiT

swavlobdnen, modiT

arCevnebze da xma mogveciT

Cven, „qarTul ocnebas“!

visac gindaT, rom Tqveni

da Tqveni axloblebis

janmrTeloba saxelmwifom

daazRvios, arc wamali eZvirebodes

da arc karg saavadmyofoSi

mkurnaloba,

modiT da airCieT „qarTuli

ocneba“ da misi maJoritarobis

kandidati.

maT ki, vinc nacionalur

moZraobas Semoxazavs mainc,

icodnen, rom rodesac

Cven movalT xelisufleba-

Si, maT aravin gauxsenebs

aseT arCevans, da yoveli

sikeTiT, rasac saqarTvelos

aRmSenebloba moitans,

isinic iseve isargebleben,

rogorc yvela danarCeni.

Cven bolos movuRebT

xalxis dayofas xelisuflebis

momxreebad da mowinaaRmdegebad,

amas gpirdebiT!

Cemo

TanamebrZolebo!

qudze kaci unda gamovides!

Cven unda vibrZoloT

sakuTari momavlisTvis,

Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis!

Cveni samSoblosTvis!

Cveni saqarTvelosTvis!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac veRaravin waar-

Tmevs xalxs Tavis arCevans!

Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT

Cvens qveyanas!

Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT

da gavaerTianebT Cvens

xalxs!

Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs

gaWirvebas!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac aRaravis das-

Wirdeba lukmapuris saSovnelad

samSoblodan gadaxvewa.

saqarTveloSi daculi

iqneba adamianis yvela ufleba,

azrisa da sityvis

Tavisufleba;

sasamarTlo iqneba samarTliani,

media - damoukidebeli,

biznesi -xelSeuxebeli!

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa

da policielebs

miecemaT imis SesaZlebloba,

rom Rirseulad emsaxuron

saxelmwifos da ara

romelime xelisufals!

Tavisufal saqarTvelo-

Si Tavisufali xalxi

icxovrebs, romelsac aRar

eqneba politikuri devnis

SiSi!

me amas gpirdebiT!

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4 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

protestis ufleba, gavigeT, rom ar gvaqvs, magram

imis ufleba mainc Tu gvaqvs, rom dagvTvalon?

luis navaros gamokvlevebi

gamokvlevebulTaTvis

luis navarom aiCema, bi-

Zina ivaniSvilma 2 oqtombers

xalxs saprotesto gamosvlebisken

mouwodao.

ar uTqvams es biZina ivaniSvils,

man Tqva, Tu ar-

Cevnebi gayalbdeba, 2 oqtombers

`qarTuli ocnebis~

mxardamWerebi quCaSi

gamovalT, rom dagvTvalon,

Tu ramdeni varT sinamdvileSio.

vimeoreb, ar uxsenebia

ivaniSvils sityva protesti,

Tumca romc exsenebina,

ra, qarTvel xalxs, Tu mas

arCevnebs uyalbeben da mis

Rirsebas fexqveS Telaven,

protestis gamoxatvis ufleba

ara aqvs?

frangebs, berZnebs,

italielebs,

arabebs, qurTebs,

rasmuseni Camovida

da avRaneTSi sabr-

Zolvelad qarTveli

biWebi cxvris farasaviT

waasxa, samagierod,

imediani sityvebi

dagvitova: _

Tqven sul ufro da

ufro uaxlovdebiT

natos... axla ise axlos

xarT, ise axlos

xarT, aqamde

arasodes rom ar yofilxarTo.

me mgoni, eseni

gvabiTureben, Cven

kidev azrze ar

varT...

nato qimerad da moCvenebad

iqca _ Cven vuaxlovdebiT,vuaxlovdebiT,

vuaxlovdebiT, is ki

sul ufro da ufro

gvSordeba...

_ ai, axla am oqtombris ar-

Cevnebs samarTlianad rom CaatarebT,

CaTvaleT, rom TiTqmis natoSi

xarTo, _ gviTxres.

ar apirebs saakaSvili am ar-

ingliselebs ufleba

aqvT protesti

gamoTqvan ki ara,

Tavze daamxon yvelaferi

TavianT

uRirs xelisuflebebs,

qarTvelebs ki

erTi uwyinari, mSvidobianiprotestis

uflebac ar hqoniaT

Turme.

ratom, Zmao, risi gulisTvis,

Torem ki...

vis ra dauSavdeba Cveni

protestiT _ SeiZleba erTi

_ miSa wadi! daviZaxoT da

sanam is wasvlas moifiqrebs,

Cven TviTon wavalT saxlSi.

oTxi Tu xuTi welia

sul vaprotestebT da vaprotestebT,

magram vis ra

ziani miadga amiT, vis ra

gaufuWda?

Cevnebis samarTlianad

Catarebas _ ar

unda am kacs natoSi

da Zalaa?

iseTi fokusebiskoriantelsdaayeneben

`nacebi~

oqtomberSi,

erTi oci weli

natos ka-

protestis ufleba,

gavigeT, rom

ar gvaqvs, magram

imis ufleba mainc

Tu gvaqvs, dagvTvalon?

_ ra dagTvalon, kaco,

Tqven xom ar SeiSaleT,

rom dagTvalon, quCaSi xom

unda gamoxvideT, quCaSi gamosvla

ki ukve protestia,

_ gadairia navaro.

e.i. quCaSi gamosvlis

uflebac ar gvaqvs, navaro?

ra varo, ra Tqva

am navarom?

ra varo da sazogadoebrivi

azris

kvleva var da gamokvlevebulebs

vumtkiceb, rom merabiSvils

ufro

maRali reitingi

aqvs, vidre ivaniSvils

da es Cemi gamokvleva

arCevneb-

Si Tu Sesabamis

procentebSi aisaxeba,

ar gaikvirvo-

To.

gakvirvebiT ki gaikvirveT,

Tu gindaT, magram qu-

CaSi gamosvla da, miTumetes,

protestis gamoTqma

ar gabedoTo, _`Cagvinamioka~

navarom.

TiTqmis igive gviTxra

megobris (saakaSvilis) sa-

naxavad Camosulma makkeinmac,

oRond ufro rTulad

da CaxlarTulad _ ar iqneba

kargi arCevnebis Semdeg

dapirispireba xangrZliv

davaSi gadaizardos... damarcxebasTan

Segueba unda viswavloTo,

_ dagvariga.

gayalbebasTan Segueba

unda viswavloTo, geTqvaT,

barem, mister jon...

* * *

rogorc irkveva, qarTvelebs

quCaSi gamosvlis ufleba

da amasTan erTad protestis

uflebac CamogvarTves.

rebTan axlosac

ar migvikareben,

samagierod, msoflios

sxvadasxva cxel

wertilebSi qarTvelTa

aqtiur monawileobaze

didsulovnad dagvTanxmdebian.

xelisufleba Rv-

Tisaao, _ gvaswavlis

biblia, magram,

veWvob, am frazaSi

is xelisufleba igulisxmebodes,romelic

navaroebis,

maWavarianebis, gogoriSvilebis,TarxniSvilebis,iakobaSvilebis

mier

gayalbebuli arCevnebis

wyalobiT

gaxda xelisufleba.

_ diqtaturis winaaRmdeg

ajanyeba RvTis morCilebao,

_ gvimtkicebs Tomas

jefersoni.

jefersoni wesieri kaci

iyo da tyuils ar ityoda...

rasmusenma dagvibara...

Cven natoSi Sesvlis

ufleba ar gvaqvs, Torem

natosTvis sikvdilis

ufleba vin wagvarTva?

avRaneTidan natos qveynebi gamodian,

Cven kidev ufro gaZlierebuli

kontingentiT vrCebiT.

saerTod, mTeli Crdilo-atlantikuri

aliansi

rom gamovides avRane-

Tidan, Cven mainc davr-

CebiT.

davrCebiT da

movkvdebiT natos

saxeliT.

sakuTar omSi sikvdili

gvezareba, Torem

sxvis omSi sikvdili

TamaSad da gviCans mRerad.

ase iyo odiTganve,

asea axlac da ase iqneba,

albaT, momavalSic...


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

gasuli kviris SabaTs gamarTulma

`nacionaluri moZraobis~

yrilobam Tu yrilobebma

sabWoTa periodis dResaswaulebi

gamaxsena, roca 1

maiss Tu 7 noembers qalaqebsa

Tu soflebSi mSromelTa

kolonebi gamoefinebodnen da

wiTeli almebis frialiT

esalmebodnen tribunebze Semoskupebul

partiul didkacobas.

garegnulad TiTqos yvelaferi

rigze iyo _ adamianebs

bednieri, gacinebuli saxeebi

hqondaT, skandirebiTac xma-

Sewyobilad skandirebdnen,

plakatebzec kompartiis sadidebeli

sityvebi ewera, quxda

mxne, optimisturi musika, magram

mTeli ubedureba is iyo,

rom yvelafer amas siyalbis

da xelovnurobis elferi

dahkravda.

saqme imaSia, rom am adamianebis

umravlesoba Zalad, savaldebulo

wesiT iyo quCaSi

gamorekili da mTeli es dResaswauli

Tavidan bolomde

dadgmuli iyo, rogorc grandiozuli

speqtakli.

rogorc dRes saakaSvili

da `nacmoZraoba~ avaldebulebs

Tavis rwmunebulebs, gamgeblebs,

skolis direqtorebs,

sabiujeto organizaciebis

xelmZRvanelebs gamoiyvanon

adamianebi ama Tu im RonisZiebebze,

zustad ase avaldebulebdnen

komunistebi TavianT

partiul qveSevrdomebs,

fabrika-qarxnebis direqtorebs,

kolmeurneobebis Tavmjdomareebs,

umaRlesi saswavleblebis,

skolebis xelmZR-

vanelebs organizeba gaekeTebinaT

da uzrunvelyoT adamian-

Ta asprocentiani daswreba.

marTalia, mixeil saakaSvili

sxvebs ukiJinebs, warsul-

Si undaT dagvabrunono, magram

sinamdvileSi swored saakaSvili

gvabrunebs warsulSi,

ufro zustad ki ar gvabrunebs,

ukve dagvabruna komunistur

epoqaSi.

faqtobrivad, es erTi-erT-

Si imeorebs komunisturi

mmarTvelobis stils da im piarteqnologiebs,

romelTac

komunistebi cdilobdnen adamianebisTvis

tvinebis gamorecxvas

da dazombirebas.

mixeil saakaSvili

Tavisi bunebiT, Tavisi

xasiaTiT da fsiqikiT

Zalian hgavs gasuli

saukunis 30-iani

wlebis bolSevikebs

_ maTsaviT isic mzad

aris gaanadguros

saerTo gazeTi

demokratiiT datanjuli

miSas imitom hgonia ivaniSvili trocki,

rom TviTon aris patara stalini

oponentebi, daamciros,

daakninos yvela,

visac misgan gansxvavebuli

azrebi da

Sexedulebebi aqvs, pirad

mtrad aRiqvas

yvela, vinc mas monurad

qeds ar uxris.

isic, 30-iani wlebis bol-

SevikebiviT, axali tipis adamianis

Seqmnas cdilobs (gaixseneT

lisenkos cnobili

sityvebi: `me ar davbadebulvar

adamianad, me adamianad

partiam Semqmna~).

nebismieri saSualo inteleqtis

fsiqologi damidasturebs,

rom adamianebi erTmaneTisgan

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zniT da xasiaTiT ibadebian

da am genetikuri kodis

Secvla arc aRzrdas SeuZlia,

arc ganaTlebas.

saakaSvilis tragedia

is aris, rom is

dabadebiT ar aris

demokrati.

demokratobac Tandayolili

RvTiT

naboZebi niWia, demokratebad

ibadebian,

ise rogorc ibadebian

musikosebad, mxatvrebad,

poetebad...

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mixeil saakaSvili tragi-

kuli pirovnebaa _ mas unda

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tyavis Savi palto

unda cmoda da xelSi mauzeri

unda sWeroda, mas ki bedis

ironiiT, demokratiul saqar-

TveloSi mouwia cxovrebam da

moRvaweobam.

mixeil saakaSvili

demokratiiT datanjuli

kacia, radgan

is iZulebulia xandaxan

mainc moiqces ise,

TiTqos demokrati

iyos da akeTos is, risi

gakeTebac mis Sinagan

bunebas radikaluradewinaaRmdegeba.

mas ukiduresad sZuls demokratiuli

Rirebulebebi,

sZuls is demokratiuli institutebi

da is pirovnebebic,

romlebic mas demokratiisken,

Semwynareblobis da loialurobisken

mouwodeben.

misi politikuri karierisTvis

aucilebeli rom ar

iyos, is siamovnebiT gaanadgurebda

yvelas da yvelafers,

rac mis Zalauflebas ewinaaRmdegeba

da, misi azriT, safr-

Txes uqmnis.

is demokratobanas Tama-

Sobs da amiT itanjeba, wvalobs,

iTrguneba, Tumca xSirad

TamaSs Tavs anebebs da, ai,

maSin warsdgeba xolme Tavisi

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pirquSi, sastiki, SurismaZiebeli

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roca demokratiiT takimasxroba

bezrdeba, niRabs ixdis

da mobezrebuli rolisgan

Tavisufldeba, is TiTqos

garegnuladac sxvanairi xdeba

_ sxva dros moSvebuli misi

dondlo torsi energiiT

imuxteba, xmaSi foladi gamoereva

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yumbaras, romelic sadacaa

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amoRebuli msxverplis

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Sav-TeTria. adamianebic da

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_ Savia yvela, vinc

mis oponentobas bedavs, TeTri

_ vinc monurad Sescicinebs

TvalebSi.

is, rogorc Cans, ukve daiRala

demokratiiT da bolo

xanebSi demokratiis mSeneblobaze

cotas laparakobs, samagierod,

Zalian bevrs saubrobs

ama Tu im obieqtis, saxlebis,

xidebis, qalaqebis mSeneblobebze,

riTac TiTqos demokratiis

deficitis kompensacias

cdilobs.

_ ra dros omia,

demokratia maqvs asaSenebelio,

ki ar ambobs,

_ ra dros omia,

lazika maqvs asaSenebelio,

_ iZaxis.

mas hgonia, rom lazikis,

an sxva romelime

obieqtis aSenebiT

gadafaravs da gadaswonis

qveyanaSi demokratiuliinstitutebisararsebobas.

obieqtebis mSeneblobas is

saxelmwifos mSeneblobasTan

aigivebs, rac absoluturad

mcdari da yovlad

ususuri demagogiaa.

_ Cven ar gvinda

warsulSi dabruneba,

Cven, win, momavlisken

unda viaroT. win, saqarTvelo!

_ ambobs saakaSvili,

Tumca man ar

icis gza winisken, anu

momavlisken, rogorc

ar icodnen es misma

sulierma winaprebma,

komunistebma, romlebsac

sul Âïåðåä ekeraT

pirze, magram aRmoCnda,

rom es Âïåðåä

ufskruli iyo.

roca warsulze

laparakobs, saakaSvili

ver xvdeba da ver acnobierebs,

rom Tavad aris warsuli

Tavad aris guSindeli

dRe, miuxedavad misi axalgazrduli

asakisa.

(unda iTqvas, rom asaki saerTod

arafer SuaSi ar aris

imis gansasazRvrad, vin ras

warmoadgens, vin ra faseulobebs

emsaxureba da vin azrovnebs

ufro progresulad).

usamarTlo da uargumento

mgonia saakaSvilis mimarT sayveduri,

Tu ratom ver aSenebs

igi demokratias?

es igivea, adamians, romelsac

xatvis niWi ar aqvs, vusayveduroT,

ratom ar SeuZlia

maRalmxatvruli nawarmoebi

Seqmnas.

es igivea, adamians, romelsac

musikaluri smena ar aqvs,

simfoniis an operis dawera

davavaloT da roca is am davalebas

ver Seasrulebs, sayvedurebiT

avavsoT.

ar aqvs mixeil saakaSvils

demokratobis niWi da ra

hqnas?

risi niWic aqvs,

rac gangebam uboZa im

niWs is SesaniSnavad

iyenebs, magram demokrati

verasodes gaxdeba

da ramdenic ar

unda wvrTnan ucxoelma

maswavleblebma

am saqmidan araferi

gamova.

jer kidev rodis Tqva poetma:

`magram marto wvrTna

ras uzams, Tu bunebam ar uSvela~.

is ubedurobani, rac saakaSvilma

daatriala, ar aris

mxolod misi brali, es im sazogadoebis

bralia, romelmac

demokratiis mSeneblad iseTi

kaci airCia, romlisTvisac demokratiuli

Rirebulebebi Tavidanve

miuRebeli da ucxo

iyo.

saakaSvili Tavisi

bunebiT, Tavisi Sinagani

wyobiT, Tavisi

fsiqikiT, stalinis

uniWo mibaZvaa, amitomac

eCveneba mas biZina

ivaniSvili trockad,

xolo misi garemocvazinoviev-kamenevis

dajgufebad.

mixeil saakaSvili misi

SecdomebiT savse cxrawliani

moRvaweobis Semdeg, Zalianac

rom undodes, demokratias ver

aaSenebs, radgan es iqneba

umkacresi ganaCeni misTvis.

saakaSvilma rom dRes

demokratia aaSenos, es igivea

xarakiri gaikeTos.

saakaSvili demokratiiT

datanjuli kacia.

saakaSvilisTvis

demokratia bedi mdevaria,

romelic adre

Tu gvian aucileblad

wamoeweva da

yvelaferze erTad

mosTxovs pasuxs.

giorgi

gamezardaSvili

5


6 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria

batoni gogi TofaZe.

_ batono gogi, NDI-is sociologiuri

kvlevebis bolo

Sedegebze saubriT rom ar daviwyo,

ubralod, warmoudgenelia

_ ras ityviT, Tqvenc nawilobriv

eTanxmebiT dadebul

Sedegebs?

_ unda giTxraT, rom me

arc erT kvlevas ar vaqcev yuradrebas,

radgan imTavidanve

vici, rom es kvlevebi gamiznulad

tardeba da sazogadoebis

dezorientaciazea gaTvlili _

ar minda amaze saubari... me rasac

1995 wlidan vuyureb, im

process arCevnebs ver davarqmev

_ iyo Zaladoba, tomrebiT

iyreboda xmebi, 1999-Sic ase

iyo, mere ufro daxvewes teqnologiebi

_ mrCevelebi bevri

hyavT da daiwyes egzitpolebi,

siebis damaxinjeba, `karuselebi~

da kidev vin icis, ramdeni

ram arsebobs, magram rogor

davujeroT im xalxs, romelic

1995 wlidan aq iyo, eswreboda

arCevnebs da ver dainaxa

verc erTi darRveva!

_ amaze miganiSnebdiT, pativcemuli

`mkvlevarebi~ da

damkvirveblebi TviTon xom ar

arian `dasakvirveblebi~ da Tan

safuZvlianad dasakvirveblebi?

`arCevnebi Catarda demokratiulad,

mcire darRvevebiT~ _ me

mxolod amgvari `dakvirvebis

Sedegebi~ maxsovs...

_ 1999 wlis arCevenebidan

erT faqts gavixseneb _ kaspSi

gvyavda erTi Zalian aqtiuri

aqtivisti qalbatoni komisia-

Si. damkvirvebeli iyo, ar maxsovs,

danieli iyo Tu belgieli

qali, 8-is naxevarze sinaTle

rom Caaqres da Semovidnen

tomrebiT, es patara qali, aqtivisti,

rom gadaefara urnas

wivil-kiviliT, ver aaglijes

verafriT. atyda CoCqoli. sibneleSi,

am Cxubsa da aliaqoT-

Si veRar gaarCies da am ucxoels

moxvda muSti, saxis cali

mxare gvarianad Caulurjda.

mokled, xmebi Caiyara da daiwera

daskvna, rom yvelaferi

normalurad Catarda, yovelgvari

darRvevis gareSe. meore

dRes preskonferencia movawyveT

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gaqvT saxeze es silurje-meTqi.

raRacas davejaxeo. ki ar

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ra fuli gaqvs aRebuli, rom

gagxeTqes cemiT da xels awer

daskvnas, rom yvelaferi kargad

Catarda, darRveva ar dafiqsirebula-meTqi...

ai, esaa damkvirveblebi!

ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba,

ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova

xelisuflebaSi, namdvilad mova!

1995 wlidan ramdeni arCevnebi

Catarda da nuTu verasdros

veravin dainaxa seriozuli

darRveva? _ amitom ar mwams

amaTi.

_ am oriode dRis win saakaSvilis

megobrebi, pativcemuli

ucxoeli stumrebi, xalxis

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iyvnen Camosulebi, rogor ggoniaT,

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mxardasaWerad Camovidnen? iqneb,

piriqiT, megobari gaamxneves

da amitomac dagvigdes

sityva, damarcxebulma Rirseulad

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_ axla situacia cota Seicvala

da ratom iciT, Tvi-

Ton, es xelisufleba imdenad

aris diskreditebuli saerTa-

Soriso asparezze, imdenad gaigo

yvelam, rom es yvelaferi

blefia, tyuilia, ra demokratia,

ris demokratia, rom maTi

ganwyoba Seicvala...

am xelisuflebam imdeni rame

akadra saqarTvelos mosaxleobas,

rom aRaraferi darCaT

saTqmeli, erTaderTi, rac

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rasac vxvdebiT kidec

yvelgan.

iciT, ra aris yvelaze cudi

da miuRebeli, nebismieri

wyobis mTavroba, simarTliT

iqneba Tu sicruiT, cdilobs

sakuTari xalxis gulis mogebas,

cdilobs, moaCvenos, rom

maTze mzrunvelia _ am xelisuflebam

esec dakarga, srulebiT

ar ainteresebs mosaxleobis

azri. am xelisuflebam

icis, rom amdeni motyuebis

Semdeg aRaravin daujerebs da

es Zalian saxifaToa – xelisufleba,

romelic aRar cdilobs,

rom Tavisi xalxis gu-

li moigos, totalitarizmidan

tiraniaSi gadadis, Zaladobis

nebismieri formiT ecdeba, rom

Tavi gadairCinos.

xalxisTvis Tavmowonebaze

vlaparakob da, rac amaT biZina

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midian, rom Tavi da is mitacebuli

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romlebic ofSorebSi aqvT. maT

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yvela im danaSaulze, rac Caidines,

amitom, amaTgan yvelaferia

mosalodneli.

me minda vuTxra mosaxleobas,

rom tyuilad eSiniaT. ki,

undaT, rom hyavdeT daSinebuli

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Tavi aRar aqvT.

_ rac saqarTvelos sWirs,

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Saulebs, rom sakuTari modgma

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mlrd, romelic gadagdebuli

aqvT amaT, aq moitans, aqeT daxarjavs

Tavisas. kargi gaTvla

gaakeTa erTma Cvenma megobarma,

yoveldRe rom 1 mln. dolari

xarjos, 18 weli eyofa da ra

unda undodes kacs, romelsac

yvelaferi aqvs?

me didi xania biZinas vicnob

da sanam politikaSi gamoCndeboda,

bevri gvaqvs nalaparakevi

– sul gancdebSi iyo.

biZinas ojaxsac kargad

vicnob, Wuris Tavze rom moatarebda

xels mamamisi, aba, ro-

meli gavsinjoTo _ ubralo

glexis ojaxidan gamosuli kacia

biZina da uniWieresi kaci

gamodga, xom?

ramdenjerme SevuTvale benduqiZeebs

(mase vuwodeb magaT

yvelas erTad, viTom eqspertebi

rom arian soflis meurneobis

sakiTxebSi), modiT, damijeqiT

debatebSi-meTqi, magram

ar movidnen, kurdRlebi arian.

axla rom movida axali premieri

da daiwyo biZinas sityvebis

gameoreba _ ra xalxi arian,

ra gundia aseTi, rom, roca

sofels klavdnen, vinc Tavs

giqnevdaT, axla ki ambobs, sofelio,

ratom ar ekamaTebian,

ra sofelio?

es modis 1996 wlidan, valavi

iyo savaluto fondidan,

maSin daiwyo, rom saqarTvelo-

Si mevenaxeoba uperspeqtivo


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

ariso ... ramdeni Cxubi mqonda...

iciT, ra aris yvelaze

sawyeni? SeiZleba, emsaxurebode

raRac ideas, magram

rom ici, klav Seni qveynis

ekonomikas da nacvlad imis

aRiarebisa, rom SegeSala,

TuTiyuSiviT imeoreb, rad

gvinda sofeli, visa aqvs sofelio.

singapurs sada aqvs

miwa, kaco, erTi qalaqia

singapuri!

_ iqneb Tqven mainc amixsnaT,

ra aCemebaa singapuri,

singapurSi singapureli san-

TliT aris saZebari da ama-

Si unda mivbaZoT?

_ ra Tqma unda! mere, romel

warmatebul qveyanas ar

aqvs soflis meurneoba _

amaze misaubria maTTan. erTma

Sveicaria momiyvna magali-

Tad, iqo, 5% aqvs soflis

meurneobaso. tyui-meTqi! Sen

rom angariSob rZe ramdeni

miiRo, im rZidan ramdeni ramec

gakeTda, 40%-ze metze

adis. Sveicaria sabanko qveyanaa,

magram soflis meurneoba

awyobili aqvT Zalian

Zlierad, Tavisi xili da

bostneuli aqvs, ratom Seitans

sxvisas _ aba, Cven rom

vakeTebT, egaa saqme?

_ kaspi aq gvqondes da

xaxvi da niori egviptidan

Semogvqondes?

_ ki, batono, egviptidan

SemoaqvT _ eseni arian qveynis

gamyidvelebi, amaT, am eqspertebs

unda moeTxovos

pasuxi da maTTan erTad yvela

im Jurnalists, milionobiT

xalxs rom atyueben.

Sen ici, rom sxva informaciis

wyaro raionSi ar aqvT,

gamodixar da atyueb? vin

aris es `imedi~, `rusTavi-

2~, `real-tv~ _ laparaki

ar aris Jurnalistur eTikaze,

adamianobazea laparaki

_ ar grcxvenia amas rom ake-

Teb? Cveni adaT-wesebi Rirebulia,

rom garyveniT mTeli

saqarTvelos axalgazrdoba,

marto Tqven ar mogwonT? _

damRupvels rom laparakoben

da mainc jiutad imeoreben...

benduqiZe Tu wuxs saqar-

Tveloze, egec Zalian mdidari

kacia, oRond aqidan

gatanili fuliT gamdidrda,

biZinas rom

akritikeben, erTi

qvelmoqmedeba miTxran

ra gaukeTebiaT TviTon.

es kiTxva unda dasvas

xalxma _ benduqi-

Ze, Senc xom Zalian

mdidari xar, ivaniSvils

araferi wauRia

saqarTvelodan, Sen ki,

aqedan gatacebuli fuliT

vauCerebis spekulaciiT

gaxdi Zalian

mdidari kaci, rame vali

ar gaqvs im qveynis

xalxis winaSe, vinc gagamdidra?

_ es amaT

yvelas exeba. ivaniSvils rom

akritikeb, raRac baza xom

unda gqondeT...

_ moraluri ufleba.

_ morali sada aqvT, kaco,

qveyana gayides! aqamde

yvelgan iyvnen, `kavkasiazec~

gamodiodnen `maestrozec~ _

axla ratom aRar gamodixarT,

vanosi geSiniaT? aaa,

biZinasi ar geSiniaT? _ mova

biZina da mogeTxovebaT

pasuxi yvelaferze, rac CaidineT

saqarTveloSi!

_ biZinas mosvlas arCvenebi

uZRvis win, arCevnebi ki

amomrCevelia, sxvas yvelafers

Tavi rom davaneboT, 1

100 000 kaci ukve miwerilia

siebSi xelisuflebis

sasargeblod, anu arCevenebis

Sedegebi ukve gayalbebulia...

_ Tu biZina, es uWkvianesi

kaci iseTi miamiti ggoniaT,

rom yuradRebas ar

aqcevs gayalbebis saSualebebsa

da meTodebs,

Zalian cdebiT. eseni

yaCaRoben _ eubnebian,

es kaci 12 wlis win

mokvdao da ara, mainc

Cawerilia siaSi... kardakar

xom iares, mivi-

ReT, rom Turme 3 600

000 amomrCeveli gvyavs

saqarTveloSi. amdeni

amomrCeveli ki ara, amdeni

mosaxleoba Tu

gvyavs? _ es erTi. meore,

ucxoeTSi ar dautoves

xmis micemis Sansi,

erTi, rom aralegari

xmas ver micems da

meore, damatebiTi sirTuleebi

Seitanes da ratom _

ucxoeTSi gaqceuli milionze

meti saqarTvelos moqalaqe

amaTi mowinaaRmdegea.

mere kidev, rogor SeiZleba,

rom cixeSi patimari da

probacioneri amaTi momxre

iyos, Tu najaxiT ar adganan

Tavze, (brladebulTa 70%

viciT, rom usafuZvlod

zis) an maTi ojaxis wevrebi

_ es yvelaferi daTvlilia

da amas analizi gaukeTdeba.

prevenciuli zomebi miRebulia,

nu ggoniaT, rom ase

miSvebulebi arian... ar aris

ase martivad saqme, mTeli

msoflio dadgeba fexze...

_ kargiT ra, romeli

msoflio, mxolod aRSfoTebas

da SeSfoTebas rom gamoTqvams

Cvens ubedurebaze?

_ Cven saubari imiT daviwyeT,

vendobi Tu ara amaT

gamokvlevebs da damkvirveblebs

_ ar vendobi, imitom,

rom maqvs praqtika, scemes

qali da kargad Catarda yvelaferio,

magram dRes aRar

dauWeren mxars. Zalian bevri

ucxoeli Camodis, Zalian

bevr ucxoelTan saubrobs

biZina da saubroben Cemi kolegebi

– gaocebuli arian

ucxoelebi, aRar aris is

ganwyoba, rom es Suquraa

demokratiis... ki, roca iyv-

nen davalebiT, Tvals xuWavdnen

bevr rameze, magram

aRar aris ase – ratom mocvivda

yvela aq?

_ realur Sedegamde mainc

ver SemacvlevinebT azrs

_ xelisuflebis gasamxneveblad.

msoflio akvirdeba am

arCevnebs – faqtebs davudebT

win, rom gayalbebulia.

manamde 29-Si gamovalT...

yvela saarCevno ubanTan

xalxi idgeba. iq iqnebian ara

mxolod komisiis wevrebi,

damkvirveblebi, aramed 4-5

adamiani, Cven magas vTxoulobT,

romelic dawers ramdeni

kaci Sevida. 200 kaci

rom Sevida, 1200 iyoo, ver

dawers...

xalxma unda icodes, rom

bevr rames veRar gabedaven

da tyuian, roca amboben,

Cven ukve mogebuli gvaqvso.

amas imitom acxadeben, rom

xalxi SeSindes, xelisuflebaSi

isev eseni rCebiano _

ar aris ase da daijereT!

axla imis realuri Sansi

gagviCnda, rom SegviZlia

Cveni qveyana, Cveni Svilebi

da SviliSvilebi gadavarCinoT

da mere, SeiZleba, es

Sansi aRar iyos, gadaaylapeben

eseni da gadagvylapaven

kidec es didi saxelmwifoebi

Tavis interesebiT. Sansi

gagviCnda, rom iseTi kaci

gvyavdes xelmZRvanelad, romelic

xalxs eyvareba, aTas

sikeTes gaakeTebs, marTla

amogvwevs am Waobidan, davadgebiT

im gzas, romelic saqarTvelos

arnaxuli renesansisken

wagviyvans. or-sam

welSi saqarTvelos veRar

icnobT _ vici misi gegmebi.

_ ruseTis faqtorze ras

ityviT.

_ ruseTisTvis saqarTvelos

dakargva Zalian prob-

lematuri gaxdeba. upirvelesad

is vTqvaT, rom ruse-

Ti yovelTvis dampyrobeli

qveyana iyo da aseTad rCeba

dRemde miwebis mitacebis

didostatad, ager kuriliis

kunZulebs 50 welia ar

Tmobs, avadmyofoba aqvs ase-

Ti, magram daTmobs Cvens teritoriebs,

amis yvela monacemi

arsebobs...

_ ar vici, ras gulisxmobT,

magram mezobel qveyanasTan

rom normaluri dip-

lomatiuri urTierToba unda

gvqondes, es udavoa...

_ meorec, vTqvaT, ekonomikis

mxriv, aseTi istoriebiT

ras mivaRwevT?

_ erTi ram axseniT, rac

ram hqonda saqarTvelos,

vgulisxmob strategiul

obieqtebs, yvelaferi ruseTzea

gadacemuli da ratomRaa

Seracxuli mtrad?

_ amaTTvis, Cemo kargo,

sul erTia, vin iqneba da ras

mihyidis, vinc mets miscems,

yvelafers imas mihyidis. aqvea,

mezoblad, ruseTma dainaxa

amaTi es sisuste da

dro ixelTa. eseni rom xelisuflebaSi

darCnen, kidev

bevr rames mihyidis... ruse-

TisTvis gadacemuli Zalian

bevri obieqtis gamosyidvas

da saqarTvelosTvis datovebas

apirebs biZina.

_ rkinigza da gazsadeni-

Ra dagvrCa, sxva raRa dagvrCa

ruseTisTvis saintereso...

_ dagvrCa, Zalian didi

resursi dagvrCa. wyali! _

wyali ar unda gaiyidos! 5-6

wlis Semdeg navTobze gacilebiT

Zviri iqneba wyali...

mag Temaze bevria salaparako

_ Cven xom arc is viciT ra

da rogor gaiyida – engurhesis

SeTanxmeba viciT, hesebi

rom Sendeba, SeTanxmebis

pirobebi viciT? _ ar aris

sajaro, magram es yvelaferi

gamoaSkaravdeba da movTxovT

pasuxs, amitom arian dafeTebulni.

_ kuTxeSi mimwyvdeuli

agresiuli adamiani gacilebiT

agresiuli xdeba...

_ Sedegi? ra miiRes axlo

aRmosavleTSi – es axla

xmaurobs, Torem mSiSaraa,

msoflios aqvs nanaxi misi

samarcxvino kadrebi. arCevnebamde

boboqroben, rom xalxi

daSindes, Torem arafris Tavi

aRar aqvT, miT ufro imis,

rom msoflios daupirispirdnen...

maia WeliZe

xalxis azriT

8 welia xelisuflebaSi rom

xar da ase 500, 700 an 600 (mi-

Sam daawyo ase) aTasi adamianis

mets rom ver miiyvan (gamoiyvan)

aqciaze, aSkarad wagebuli gaqvs... ratom?

6 Tvis CanasaxSi myof partias 200 -250

aTasi adamiani ar unda gamoyavdes Sen rom

kargi iyo da imitooom... gaigeviT?

ise.. am beCavma (gnebavT, bedSavma)

,rogor yvelaferi biZinaCemisgan

gadaiRo, maisurebi, es qalaqebSi

Sexvedrebi... magram naZaladevis

da SaSinebulis.... ojaxTan Caxuteba mere?

:)) erTi bavSvebs ver gaarepina da beraze

daiboRma :))) amxela oylayi baRanaze rom

daiboRmeba!!!!!!!!!!!! gana marto garepvis unari

da niWi, beras dedac Surs, mamac, ojaxic

da yvelaferi, rac mag bedSavs bavSvobaSic

ar hqonia!

aq viRaceebs marTla hgonia, rom

dRes, xalxi, nebayoflobiT mivida

nacmos yrilobaze, Tu Tavs

iStereben? ui, quTaisSi “ocnebaze”

meti ver Sekriba.

visac aiZuleben mobiluriT gadaiRon

Semoxazuli 5-ani. SemoxazeT

5-ani, gadauReT mobiliT,

mere gadaxazeT, gaafuWeT biuleteni.

visac aiZuleben ukve gamzadebuli,

5-an Semoxazuli biuleteni Seitanon da

sanacvlod carieli gamoitanon. SegaqvT 5an

Semoxazuli biuleteni, amave biuletens

afuWebT da gamogaqvT carieli biuleteni.

quTaiselma megobarma damireka.

saswauli ambavi xdebodao. davdiodi

im xalxSi da sanTliT

veZebdi quTaislebso. maSrutkebiT

Camoyvanilebi iyvnen yvelao. Semecodneno,

mSivrebi, natanjebi da damorcxvebulebi.

mag SantaJists xmas rogor mivcem-

To.

dRes TbilisSi bevri xalxi

darboda maisurebiT ”me miyvars

saqarTvelo”.... Tqve dalocvilebo

Tu ase giyvarT saqarTvelo,

ratom garbodiT 2008 wlis agvistoSi

Tbilisidan? an ratom gaiqeciT imitirebuli

qronikis Semdeg? suli ufro tkbilia

ara? arafers gsayvedurobT! magram nu

damimtkicebT, rom Cemze magrad giyvarT es

qveyana

yvela sakvanZo persona ucxoeTi-

Tan iyo Camosuli erTi konketuli

mowodebiT-arCevnebi Catardes

samarTlianad, gviTxres,

rom es iqneba lakmusis testi, yrilobaze

kidev miSa misi gundianad xmamaRla acxadebs

rom egRa aklia xelisufleba mumiebs

gadaabaros da rom ar dauSvebs xalxis

gamosvlas da eqneba meti sargebeli

xalxs. hoda, sul ufro ikveTeba nacmos

ganzraxva arCevnebis totalurad gapravebis,

mere represiebis, im xalxis, vinc gabedavs

da gaaprotestebs, mokled siamovnebiT

gaviRviZebdi noembris 1-Si ukeTesi

momavlis imediT

7


8 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvels

emaxsovreba Cemi da Cemi

Zmobili qisti maxmad margoSvils

saubrebi, pankisis xeoba-

Si momZlavrebuli vahabituri

moZraobebis Sesaxeb.

`vgrZnob, xeobaSi xelovnurad

Canergili vahabizmi, ara

mxolod Cven, pankisel qistebs,

aramed Cvens samezoblo-

Si mosaxle qarTvelebsac did

problemebs Seuqmnis, amitom

saerTo Wirs axlave Tu ar

mivxedeT, Semdeg gviani iqneba

da sisxlic daiRvrebao~-o Semodgomaa...

saqarTvelos xelisufleba

da mosaxleoba erTdroulad

imkis im codvebs, rac

pankisis xeobaSi 90-iani wlebis

dros CaiTesa, e.i. grZelvadian

SuRls, grZelvadian gaugebrobas

da aseve grZelvadian

sisxlian dapirispirebas. es

mxolod mcire nawilia im CamoTvlili

Wirisa, rasac 84

wlis uxucesi CemTan interviuebSi

cremlmoreuli aRniSnavda

da aha, Turme ra marTali

yofila?!

iqneb icis vinmem saqarTvelos

dedaqalaq TbilisSi, respublikur

saavadmyofoSi ra

`damsaxurebebisTvis~ mkurnalobda

saerTaSoriso teroristi

doku umarovi, romelic

TviT `rusTavi-2~ ki daafiqsira

Tavis videokameriT da

Cvenc gvaCvena?! metic, 2011

wlis 26 maiss, amerikis Seer-

Tebuli Statebis saxelmwifo

departamenti `kavkasiis imarats~

teroristul organizaciad

rom acxadebs da aq, saqarTveloSi,

`imaratis~ araer-

Ti xelmZRvanelis, araerTi

mebrZolis uvneblad gadaadgilebis

momswre rom xdeba _ ar

aris logikuri, daisvas kiTxva

_ saakaSvili ukanonod SeiaraRebul

jgufebad kavSirSi

xom ar aris da rogor xdeba

isic, rom amerikis viTomcda

mokavSire saqarTvelos xelisufleba

sinamdvileSi rusuli

gegmis nawilad iqca?

zustad 3 wlis win ruse-

Tis oficialurma warmomadgenelma

`natoSi~ dimitri rogozinma,

CemTan interviuSi

gancvifreba ver damala saqar-

Tvelos xelisuflebis siTavxedeze

imis gamo, rom saqarTvelos

xelisufleba aSkarad

da urcxvad TbilisSi saerTa-

Soriso terorist doku umarovs

mfarvelobda da misTvis

rusi samxedroebis mier nasroli

tyviiT miyenebuli Wrilobebis

moSuSebaSi exmareboda!!!

igive interviuSi, dimitri rogozini

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas

afrTxilebda, rom ruseTisTvis

cnobili iyo, saakaSvilis

keTilganwyobiT Seqmnili

bandformirebebis Sesa-

xeb da metic, batoni rogozini,

imasac ambobda, rom maTTvisac

cnobili iyo saqarTvelos

teritoriaze im `banakebis~

adgilmdebareoba, sadac `boevikebi~

iwvrTnebodnen da bazirebdnen!!!

raoden gasakviric ar unda

iyos, maSin igive informaciebs

flobdnen rigiTi pankiselebic

da rigiTi lafanyurelebic,

magram isini rogozinisgan gansxvavebiT,

ukanono formirebebis

kontrolSi, rogorc qar-

Tvel Zalovanebs, ise ruseTis

specsamsaxurebsac adanaSaulebdnen.

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvels

kargad moexseneba, rom

kaxeli var da logikurad, saqarTvelos

am kuTxeSi ufro

meti nacnobi myavs, vidre sxvagan...

vicnob glexsac, maswavlebelsac,

eqimsac da im `nacebsac~,

romelTac Sublis

ZarRvi jer bolomde ar gawyvetiaT.

rogorc werilis dasawyisSive

avRniSne, saukeTeso

urTierTobebi mqonda da maqvs,

ZirZvel qistebTan _ margoSvi-

`qarTulma ocnebam~

sasamarTloSi sarCeli Seitana

blokma „biZina ivaniSvili - qar-

Tuli ocneba“ saqarTvelos sakonsuloebSi

emigrantebis amomrCevlebad

daregistrirebis wesis gamartivebis

moTxovniT, cesko–s winaaRmdeg sasamarTloSi

sarCeli Seitana.

sarCeli Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi

“qarTuli ocnebis“ warmomadgenelma

zurab maraqveliZem Seitana.

misi TqmiT, saqarTvelos centraluri

saarCevno komisiis 9 seqtembris dadgenilebis Tanaxmad,

ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebi amomrCevlad dasaregistirireblad

uSualod unda gamocxadnen registraciis adgilas, rac maT

seriozul barierebs uqmnis.

rogorc maraqveliZe ganmartavs, 9 seqtembris dadgenilebiT,

magaliTad, milanSi da italiis sxva qalaqebSi mcxovrebma qarTvelebma

registracia saelCoSi, anu romSi unda gaiaron. iq Casasvlelad

ki erT samuSao dRis dakargva mouwevT, rac maT problemebs

Seuqmnis.

„aRniSnuli barieri xelovnuradaa Seqmnili. moqalaqeebs daregistrirebis

saSualeba fostiT unda miscemodaT, sabuTebs Seagrovebdnen

da fostiT gagzavnidnen. magram cesko–m procedura gaarTula.

„qarTuli ocneba“ ceskos am gadawyvetilebas asaCivrebs

lebTan, xangoSvilebTan, cixesaSvilebTan

da a.S. hoda 18 agvistos

sisxliani movlenebis

Semdeg, rasakvirvelia, davukavSirdi

am adamianebs, wvrilad

gamovkiTxe, ra moxda, ra

situacia iyo im xanad xeobaSi

da maTzec xom ar iyo zewola

_ Cumad yofiliyvnen?

Cems pirvel SekiTxvaze _

icodnen Tu ara, vin iyvnen

moklulebi? mipasuxes, rom _

icodnen! isec miTxres, rom es

biWebi ramdenime dRis win Camovidnen,

ufro sworad, Camoiyvanes.

vin Camoiyvana? _ SevekiTxe

me...

_ visTanac am wlebis

ganmavlobaSi ur-

TierToba hqondaT, saqmiani

urTierToba!

xvdebi, xom?

micvalebulebi vinc

arian, yvela daasaflaveT?

_ yvela ara, ar

gvaZleven!

_ ratom ar iZlevian,

xom ar uTqvamT? _

SevekiTxe me...

_ vinc gadmogvces,

isinic sul dacxrilulebi

arian, TiTqos daxvriteso, aki,

aCvenes, `spalnimeSokebSi~ iyvnen

isev, eZinaT da daxvrites.

saceriviT aqvT tani. tyeSi,

Tanac brZolaSi, es gamoricxulia...

`imaT gviTxres,

didi ambavi da samZimrebi ar

gindaT, CumaT ubralod daa-

saflaveTo! ar gamova eg ambavi,

ara... amaT saqoneli vgonivarT,

pirutyvebi...

axla, axla ra viTarebaa

mand, siwynarea?

_ amas Tu siwynare hqvia...

axalgazrdebi dagvixvrites.

gveubnebian, xma ar amoiRoT

Torem, Tqvenc igive mogivaTo

da gvaxseneben im dros, roca

Cven udanaSaulo axalgazrdoba

aq pankisSi sakuTar ezoeb-

Si daxoces da aafeTqes. eee,

rac Cven gadavitaneT, ena ver

ityvis. ar SevarCenT arc petres

da arc danarCenebs am ambavs...

_ xalxi ras ambobs, qarTvelebze

Zalian gabrazebulebi

arian?

_ Cemo dao, xalxma ra daaSava,

an qarTvelma da an qistma?

Cven ubralo xalxi marto

Wirisuflebad gvaqcia saakaSvilmac

da putinmac! aba,

Sexede qarTvel da qist mok-

lafanyuri _ saqarTvelos

bermudis samkuTxedi

lulebs, TiTqos erTi dedis

Svilebi ariano, iseTi lamazebi,

iseTi jiSianebi arian! ubralo

qarTvelebis mimarT ra

pretenziebi unda gvqondes?

ra, qarTvelma mSoblebma

icodnen da ician risTvis moukles

Svilebi?

ratom iyvnen saceriviT

dacxriluli qisti da CeCeni

mebrZolebi? anda ras niSnavda

`rusTavi-2~-is naCvenebi is

kadrebi, romelSic naTlad

Cans, rom zogierTi `boeviki~

isev saZile tomaraSia da ara

da moiTxovs, rom ucxoeTSi mcxovreb Tanamemamuleebs mieceT sa-

Sualeba, damatebiTi dabrkolebis gareSe miiRon monawileoba ar-

CevnebSi“, – ganacxada maraqveliZem.

`qarTuli dasi~ 2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebs

politikuri partia ”qarTuli dasi”

2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebs.

rogorc dRes gamarTul preskonferenciaze

partiis liderma jondi

baRaTuriam ganacxada, aqciebi, saxelwodebiT

,,daicavi sakuTari xma“ permamentuli

iqneba.

misive TqmiT, aqciebi 23 dRis ganmavlobaSi

Tbilisisa da quTaisSi parlamentis

SenobebTan, aseve prezidentis

rezidenciasTan gaimarTeba.

rogorc man aRniSna, aqciebi im SemTxvevaSic gaimarTeba, Tu gamocxadebuli

maCveneblebi arCevnebis realur Sedegebs ar asaxavs.

,,Tematuri xasiaTis aqciebi arCevnebis realuri Sedegebis gamoqveynebas,

konstituciuri wyobis dacvas da qveyanaSi stabilurobis

dacvas emsaxureba,” - ganacxada baRaTuriam

aqciis Catarebis nebarTvis misaRebad Tbilisisa da quTaisis

merebs ”qarTuli dasis” warmomadgenlebi ganacxadebiT xval mimarTaven.

`medianiusi~

romelime xesTan Casafrebul

mdgomareobaSi?

nuTu marTla miparviT da

muxanaTurad Cacxrila es

axalgazrdebi, Cvenma naqebma

specdaniSnulebis batalionma?

es Tu marTlac ase moxda _ ra

hqvia amas da ra gagrZeleba

SeiZleba mohyves yovelives, ar

unda gvafiqrebdes?

rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania

sazogadoebas ratom gvimalaven

im danarCeni `diversantebis~

vinaobas, visi gvamebic prozeqturaSi

aqvT gamoketili da

imazec arafers gveubnebian, am-

Jamad modulis SenobaSi ramden

`diversants~ urtyamen `a-

RiarebiTi Cvenebis~ miRebis

molodinio?

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! ucnaurad

ar geCvenebaT, rom uaxlesi

iaraRebiT aRWurvili

adamianebis jgufs karga xniT

adrec xedavdnen lafanyurelebi

da pankiselebi? metic, isini

ara mxolod aq mcxovreb

adamianebTan Sediodnen kontaqtSi,

aramed ZalovanebTanac?

mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi

ratom ar aiyvanes mZevlebi maT

da roca viTom aiyvanes, fuli

aCuqes, samxedro `baTinkic~

aCuqes da ise gamouSves?

ratom iZaxis erT-erTi

`mrevlis~ mezobeli kaci _ eg,

biWebi suyvela `nac.moZraobis

wevrebi~ arian da mZevladac

aravisa hyoliao?~

dameTanxmeT, rom ruseTis

xelisuflebis dumili,

CeCneTis xelisuflebis

dumili, saqarTvelosxelisuflebisa

da misi opoziciis

dumili `lafanyuris

omis~ Sesaxeb

imaze met kiTxvas badebs,

vidre dasasmelia

da vkiTxulob kidec

_ amjeradac, yvelam

erTad, ruseTis

Canafiqrs, gegmebs xom

ar Seuwyo xeli Semdgomi

moqmedebisTvis

da lopotidan `lopota~-s

(rusulad-gancxroma, netareba)

mdgomareobaSi xom ar Caagdo

kremlis mesveurebi `barambos~

kanfetebis TanxlebiT?

erTaderTi, rac am sisxlian

tragediaSi mkafiod gamoikveTa,

is aris, rom moklulia 14 adamiani,

3 qarTveli jariskaci da

11 e.w. diversanti, romelTa sisxlsac

aravis SearCenen Crdilokavkasielebi

da romlebmac

swored amitom gamoucxades

`jihadi~ _saakaSvils, merabiSvils,

axalaias da SaSkins.

Tanac, rogorc qistebi, ise

lafanyurelebi pirad saubreb-

Si Riad acxadeben, rom araferi

ar damTavrebula, piriqiT

yvelaferi axla daiwyo da

verdiqti gamotaniliao. daakvirdiT?

14 adamiani imsxverpla

satanam, mariamoba dRes!

astrologiur cifrTa gadaangariSebiT

ki, naxeT, rogor

gamodis?

14 es cifri aris 1-ianisa

da oTxianis erToblioba. jam-

Si ki 1+4 tolia 5-is da netav,

vin arian am cifris motrfialeebi?

diax, nacmoZraobis sayvareli

cifria 5 da axla dafiqrdiT,

SemTxveviTia es?

irine gogosaSvili


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

erT-eerTi yvelaze warmmatebuli

sawarmmos, saaqccio sazogaddoeba

``WiaTurmmanganummis~~

gakotrebis anatommiis, farTo

sazogaddoebisaTvis uccnob ddetalebze

politikuri koaliccia

``biZina ivaniSvili-qqarTuli

occnebis~~ WiaTuris mmaJoritari

ddeputatobis kanddiddati

malxaz wereTeli gvesaubreba.

_ batono malxaz, yovelgvari

familarobis gareSe minda

mogmarToT: Tqveni ganvlili

gziT, cxovrebis wesiT,

adamianuri TvisebebiT WiaTuraSi

erT-erT gamorCeuli pirovneba

brZandebiT. ramdenad

sakmarisia es, rom parlament-

Si WiaTurelTa rCeuli gaxdeT?

_ gmadlobT, aseTi SefasebisaTvis.

meuxerxuleba saku-

Tar Tavze laparaki, magram mainc

Sevecdebi gipasuxoT.

politikaSi axalfexadgmuli

ar meTqmis _ wlebia, Wia-

Turis municipalitetis sakrebulos

wevri var. Cemi warsuliTac

SemiZlia viamayo,

Tumca Cemi, rogorc deputatobis

kandidatis upiratesobas

(mepatios pirdapiroba)

erTi ramec ganapirobebs.

me, malxaz wereTeli, viqnebi

saaqcio sazogadoeba `WiaTurmanganumis~

im 12 aTasze

meti aqcioneris uflebaTa

damcveli saqarTvelos parlamentSi,

romlebic am sawarmos

xelovnurad gakotrebis

msxverplni gaxdnen. aseTi me-

TodiT gakotrebam mZime dartyma

miayena `WiaTurmanganumis~

aqcionerebis qonebriv

mdgomareobas, rac maTi ojaxebisTvis

dRemde mouSuSebeli

Wrilobaa.

saqarTvelos parlamentis

wevrad arCevis SemTxvevaSi,

erT-erTi upirvelesi sazrunavi

am aqcionerTa uflebebis

aRdgena iqneba _ yvelafers

viRoneb, rom Seiqmnas saparlamento

komisia `WiaTurmanganumis~

gakotrebis detalebis

dasadgenad da samarTlianobis

aRsadgenad.

aqve ganvmartav: am saqmis

gamoZieba xels ar SeuSlis

Sps `jorjian manganezis~ sam-

To gamamdidrebeli kombinatis

muSaobas, romelic `WiaTurmanganumis~

qonebis bazaze agrZelebs

muSaobas, Tumca misi

samarTalmemkvidre ar aris.

_ iqneb mkiTxvels ufro

detalurad ganumartoT, rogor

gaakotres `WiaTurmanganumi~

xelovnurad?

saerTo gazeTi

malxaz wereTeli:

malxaz wereTeli: `WiaTurmanganumis~

xelovnuri gakotreba 12 000 aqcionerisa

da maTi ojaxis wevrebisaTvis mudmiv

da mouSuSebel Wrilobad darCeba...

_ saaqcio sazogadoeba`WiaTurmanganumis~

qonebaze gakotrebis

saqmis wamowyebis

Semdeg maleve, sasamar-

Tlos ganCinebiT, sawarmo

reabilitaciis

reJimze gadaiyvanes. ramdenime

Tvis ganmavlobaSi manganumis

mopoveba da mTlianad sawarmoo

procesi, erTi SexedviT,

Cveulebriv reJimSi Cadga...

magram maleve kvlav daiwyo

gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba.

gakotrebis mmarTvelad Tbilisis

saxelmwifo universitetis

profesori, advokati

roin migriauli daniSnes. mis

saxelTan aris dakavSirebuli

saqarTveloSi samarTlis am

dargis ganviTareba. vfiqrobdiT,

rom cnobil iurists

saqmis gamrudebulad warmarTvas

veravin gaubedavda.

batoni roin migriauli,

rogorc mosalodneli iyo,

Seudga dakisrebuli movaleobis

kvalificiurad Sesrulebas,

`gakotrebis saqmeTa warmoebis

Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos

imdroindeli kanonis Sesabamisad,

rac iTvaliswinebs: mZime

ekonomikur mdgomareobaSi Cavardnili

movalis ekonomikuri

da finansuri siZneleebis

gadawyvetas, agreTve misi kreditorebis

interesebis maqsimalurad

dakmayofilebas. saqmis

warmoeba movalis gadarCena-gajansaRebamde

unda misuliyo...

magram saqme sxvagvarad

warimarTa.

ar vici, ra weria oficialur

dokumentebSi, ra mizeziT

datova roin migriaulma

gakotrebis mmarTvelis Tanamdeboba

daniSvnidan or TveSi,

magram cnobilia realuri motivi

_ man igrZno, rom igi

SesaZloa, antisaxelmwifoebrivi

saqmianobis monawile gamxdariyo,

Tuki `WiaTurmanganumis~

aqciaTa sakontrolo

paketis mflobelis _ ekonomikis

saministros nebas daTanxmdeboda....

axal mmarTvelad

iuristi daviT kakabaZe dainiSna...

_ intervius SesavalSive

aRniSneT, rom sawarmos gakotrebiT

dartyma miiRo 12

aTasze metma aqcionerma. rodis

da rogor gaxdnen isini

aqcionerebi?

_ XX saukunis 90-ian

wlebSi, rodesac Cvens qveyana-

Si privatizebis procesi daiwyo,

sawarmo gaerTianeba `WiaTurmanganumi~

gardaiqmna saaqcio

sazogadoebad, romlis

aqciaTa 100 procenti saxelmwifos

sakuTrebas warmoadgenda.

prezident eduard SevardnaZis

brZanebulebiT, am

aqciaTa sami procenti Sromi-

Ti koleqtivis 12 aTasze met

TanamSromels usasyidlod gadaeca.

maSin TiToeuli aqciis

nominaluri Rirebuleba erT

lars Seadgenda. 2004-2005

wlebidan moyolebuli, WiaTuris

manganumze msoflio bazarze

moTxovna TandaTan izrdeboda,

Sesabamisad, aqciaTa

fasmac mkveTrad moimata. specialistebis

daskvnebiT, `Wia-

Turmanganumis~ xelovnuri gakotreba

rom ara, aqciaTa 3

procentis sabazro Rirebuleba

dRes milionobiT dolari

iqneboda.

ase rom, rodesac `WiaTurmanganumis~

qonebaze gakotrebis

saqmis warmoeba gaixsna,

amiT movalis ekonomikuri siZneleebis

daZleva ki ar iyo

ganzraxuli, aramed, Turme,

imTaviTve sawarmos likvidacia

igegmeboda.

12 aTasze meti aqcioneris

vinaoba (saxelebi, gvarebi,

sacxovrebeli adgilis misamarTebi

da sxva) dResac aris

dafiqsirebuli fasiani qaRaldebis

registratoris monacemebsa

da Sesabamis sxva dokumentaciaSi.

_ da uflebaSelaxuli,

qonebawarTmeuli aqcionerebisaTvis

cnobili araferia?

_ maT yvelaferi Cinebulad

ician, maT Soris _ ekonomikis

saministros erT-erTi

maRalCinosnis cinikuri xumrobis

Sesaxeb: `WiaTurmanganumis~

gakotrebasTan dakavSirebiT

erT-erT TaTbirze mas

uTqvams: 12 aTas aqcioners

maTsave samuSao iaraRebs gavaqonineb,

maTze davsvam da ise

movisvrio... amJamad bevri aqcioneri

jer kidev manganumis

mrewvelobaSi muSaobs (rogorc

ukve aRvniSne, am bizness

Sps `jorjian manganezi~ agr-

Zelebs) da samuSaos dakargvis

SiSiT pirSi wylis Cagubebas

amjobinebs.

rac Seexeba maRalCinosnis

danaqadebs, man sityva Seasrula,

marTlac `moisrola~ 12

aTasze meti aqcioneri, romelTac

xelT faratina qa-

RaldebiRa SerCaT. im 12 aTas

`mosrolil~ aqcioneTa Soris

iyvnen sawarmoo marcxiT dain-

validebuli adamianebi, regresis

pensionerebi (bevri maTgani

invalidis etls dRemdea

mijaWvuli), romlebic mizeruli

saxelmwifo pensiis imedad

darCnen. mkiTxvels Sevaxseneb,

rom mimdinare wlis aprilSi

batoni biZina ivaniSvili

regresis pensionerebs

Sexvda da daxmareba aRuTqva.

koaliciis programis es nawili

praqtikulad gadawyvetilia.

`mosrolilma~ aqcionerebma

ician, rom aravis araferi

gaukeTebia imisaTvis, rom gakotrebis

saqmis warmoeba

likvidaciiT ki ara, reabilitaciiT

damTavrebuliyo. maTTvis

isic kargad aris cnobili,

rom ekonomikis saministros

zewolis gamo, sasamarTloSi

valauvali movalis mi-

er, arc erTi kerZo saCivari,

arc erTi morigebis gancxadeba

ar Sesula.

vidre momdevno kiTxvaze

gadavidodeT, mciredi gadaxveva;

prezidenti saakaSvili satelevizio

gamosvlebisas xSirad

imeorebs _ CvenTan ar moipoveba

navTobi da bunebrivi

airi, amitom Cveni qveyana ekonomikurad

Zlieri ar ariso.

erTi suli maqvs am dros

sityva Sevawyvetino da Sevaxseno:

batono prezidento, samagierod

Cven gvaqvs unikaluri

fizikuri da qimiuri TvisebebiT

gamorCeuli WiaTuris manganumi,

romlis warmoebis Sedegad

miRebuli milionobiT

dolaris mogeba, sadRac

Sors, kviprosis ofSoruli

zonis bankebSi, iqve daregistrirebuli

kompaniis angariSze

iricxeba, romlis damfuZnebelTa

vinaoba gasaidumloebulia.

ase rom, Cveni qveynisa da

xalxis ekonomikuri uZlurebis

mizezi bunebrivi resursebis

nakleboba ki ara, elituri

korufciaa.

_ rogorRa gagrZelda `WiaTurmanganumis~

gakotrebis

saqmis warmoeba?

_ gakotrebis warmoebis

procesSi (2005-2008 wlebi),

lamis yoveldRiurad izrdeboda

moTxovna WiaTuris manganumze

da matulobda sasaqonlo

produqciis realizaciac.

amas statistikis erovnuli

samsaxuris monacemebic

adasturebs. arsebobda iuridiuli

da realuri faqtobrivi

safuZvlebi imisa, rom momxdariyo

`WiaTurmanganumis~

reabilitacia. es procesi sabolood

daasrula 2008

wlis 4 ivliss saCxeris raionulma

sasamarTlom (mosamar-

Tle _ malxaz CubiniZe, sxdomis

mdivani _ nino CixeliZe):

`WiaTurmanganumis~ mimarT gakotrebis

saqmis warmoeba dasrulebulad

cno; sawarmo gakotrebulad

gamoacxades da

samewarmeo reestridan amoi-

Res. ai, finali aSkara ukanono

epopeisa!

kidev erTxel vimeoreb: aqcionerebs,

vinc TavianTi janmrTeloba

da axalgazrdoba

`WiaTurmanganumis~ warmatebul

sawarmod Camoyalibebas

Seswira, xelT faratina qa-

Raldi SerCaT. sawarmoo simZlavreebi:

gamamdidrebeli fabrikebi,

maRaroebi, avtosatransporto

parki, unikaluri

wiaRiT mdidari sabadoebi lamis

saCuqrad gadaeca Sps

`jorjian manganezs~, romlis

damfuZnebeli kviprosis of-

Sorul zonaSi daregistrirebuli

kompaniaa.

_ batono malxaz, Cveni interviu

pesimistur notze

mTavrdeba?

_ ras brZanebT, arasodes

vyofilvar pesimisti! vici,

TviTon qalaq WiaTuraSi, mis

rionebSi, soflebSi uamravi

problemaa mosagvarebeli. qalaqi

TiTqos sasmeli wylis

resursebis naklebobas ar ganicdis,

magram sruliad mouwesrigebelia

wyalmomaragebis

sistema, romelzec ukve sam

milionamde laria daxarjuli.

Tuki deputatad amirCeven,

`Savi oqros~ qalaqSi prioritetuli

iqneba garemos dacvis

sakiTxebi, miwisZvriTa da miwisqveSa

samTo samuSaoebis

warmoebisas dazaralebulTa

uflebebis dacva, soflis meurneobis

ganviTareba... me mzad

var, am problemebis mosagvareblad,

WiaTurelTa interesebis

dasacavad...

neba momeciT, es interviu

biZina ivaniSvilis gamonaTqvamiT

davasrulo: `Cven davam-

TavrebT saqarTveloSi sabWoeTis

epoqas, tyuilebis epoqas!

elitaruli korufciis

epoqas! usamarTlobisa da unamusobis

epoqas! saqarTveloSi

patiosnebis dro modis!~

Tamaz TofuriZe

9


10 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

luis navarosTan mimarTebaSi mxolod

erTaderTi gamosavali arsebobs-

samarcxvinod gavaZevoT saqarTvelodan.

gavaZevoT ise, rom

momavalSi verc erTma moxalise navarom

veRar SeZlos qarTveli xalxisTvis Tavze

dafurTxeba. vfiqrob, rom saprotesto

kampaniis mTavar RerZad unda iqces aqciebis

organizeba NDI-is da sxva ofisebis

win. axla, ra Tqma unda, gamoxteba zogierTi

opozicioneri politikosi, Tu politikosobis

msurveli da ityvis, rom es

procesisTvis xelis SeSlaa...:))) daiwyeT

aqciebis organizeba im gayalbebisa da tyuilis

winaaRmdeg, rasac navaroebi gvaxeven

Tavs. es kriminalia. aqciebis organizeba ki

araa danaSauli _ Cveni mTavari uflebaa.

Zvelad qarTvelebi Zalian dafasebulebi

vyofilvarT! lekebi

mogvitacebdnen Tu ara maSinve

stambolis bazarze gavyavdiT, sadac

taciaoba tydeboda Cvenze, ara me unda

viyido, ara - meo! axla mazanda dagvivarda,

SeiZleba ki SemovetacoT vinmes, mara

muStari aRar gvyavs, amitom gvaWmeven,

gvacmeven, jibis fuls gvaZleven da ukan

gvabruneben. am pirobebSi iavnanam ra unda

qnas?!

yriloba iyo formiT viTom amerikuli

(rogorc albaT, SeukveTa

miSam Tavis piarSCikebs) da SinaarsiT

– sufTa komunistur–bol-

Sevikuri. teqstebidan gamomdinare Tu vimsjelebT,

marTla cudad aqvT etyoba, saqme,

Cveulebrivze meti tyuili da ciliswameba

dasWirdaT! Tan nametani xmaCaxleCilebi

Rrialebdnen.

xalxis azriT

ara marto ”leninizm-neobolSevizmis”

- sruli marazmis karnavalia

” heil hitler-is winam-

ZRolobiT!!! Tavi evropaSi visac

hgonia, ZaliT Cacmul 5-ian maisurebSi gamowyobaze,

demonstraciebze ZaliT monawileobis

miRebaze sabWoTa kavSiri cotaTi

mainc ar elandebaT?ramdeni ”modelirebuli

qronika” unda vnaxoT, ramdeni lopotas

xeobis operacia, ramdeni SaraZe, Jvania,

girgvliani, vazagaSvili, gamcemliZe,

qimeriZe, soso wiklauri, Coxeli, xvedeliZe

da sxva, ramdeni daRupul-daWrili

avRaneTSi, ramdeni atirebuli deda, mama,

meuRle, Svili, Seyvarebuli, ramdeni nacemi

da Seuracxyofili veterani, saxlebidan

gamoyrili Zveli Tu axali ltolvil-devnili,

garedan gamWvirvale da Signidan bneli,

burusiT moculi policiis Senoba,

ramdeni vandaluri Zeglis gadatan-gadmotana

an sulac afeTqeba-ganadgureba,ramdeni

unda vnaxoT da vigemoT, rom gamovfxizldeT?!

Tavs nu davimSvidebT, rom ”droni

mefoben da ara mefeni”!!! iqneb senekas davujeroT:

”gavzomoT cxovreba qmedebebiT

da ara droiT”.

`makkeiniT var maked~

`Tu ginda siTbo da alersi,

megobars Caxede TvalebSi~

_ makkeini saakaSvilTan

Camovida,

rogorc megobari

megobarTan, rom ar-

Cevnebis win gaefr-

Txilebina, raime

sisulele ar Caidino,

biWo da ar

dagvRupoo _ aseT

axsnas uZebnis qar-

Tel politikosTa

erTi nawili makkeinis

vizits saqarTveloSi.

_ msoflioSi

Zalian cota darCa

adamiani, visac saakaSvili

ujerebs... is imdenadaa Sepyrobili

Zalauflebis SenarCunebis surviliT,

rom cota vinmes Tu usmens, xolo

visac usmens, maTgan makeini, ra

Tqma unda, gamorCeuli pirovnebaa saakaSvilisTvis.

makkeini, albaT, Seecada

daerwmunebina saakaSvili, rom sjobs

arCevnebi samarTlianad Catardes _ amboben

qarTveli eqspertebi da politologebi.

mokled rom vTqvaT, didi marCieloba

da mkiTxaobaa gaCaRebuli _ ratom

Camovida makkeini da ra uTxra saakaSvils?

saakaSvilis dasatuqsad Camovida

Tu saakaSvilis mxardasaWerad?

iqneb imis gasagebad, es ivaniSvili ruseTis

kacia Tu ara?

am makeinis gamkvirvebia, ivaniSvilis

ruseTumeobis ambavi rom ainteresebs,

ratom is ar ainteresebs vin aris sinamdvileSi

misi politikuri Svilobili

mixeil saakaSvili da iseTi ra megobrul-naTesauri

kavSirebi aqvs ruseTTan,

naxevari saqarTvelo Tavis teritoriebian-ekonomikianad

ruseTs rom

gadaabrala?

marto am makkeinis ki ara saerTod

amerikelebis miamitobiT da gulubryvilobiT

var gaocebuli, maTTvis rogor

darCa damaluli da gaugebari is,

rac saqarTveloSi TiTqmis yvelam icis

_ dawyebuli Jurnalistebidan da dam-

Tavrebuli rigiTi moqalaqeebiT.

makkeins moaxsenes, rom biZina ivaniSvilma

Tavisi ukanaskneli biznesic

gayida ruseTSi, magram ratomRac araferi

mouxsenebiaT imis Sesaxeb, rom

TviT xelisufleba da masTan daaxloebuli

pirebi kidev ufro aRrmaveben

da aZliereben ruseTTan biznesurTier-

Tobebs.

ratom araferi uTxres makkeins da

mis Tanmxleb senatorebs, rom saakaSvili

da putini krizisul situaciebSi

ise filigranulad azRveven erTmaneTs,

ise sinqronulad moqmedeben, rom didi

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yvelafers rom Tavi davaneboT, roca

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ze SurisZiebis dauokebeli survili

moxucebulobaSic gadmohyva.

_ rusebma gawyenines? ager ar var

me? Tqven oRond iaraRi mogveciT da

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moxerxebuli kacia es Cveni saakaSvili

_ iqiT makkeins da amerikelebs

uxarebs guls, aqeT putins da ruseTs,

erTaderTi, visac guls uklavs, es

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Casagdebic ar arian, mTavaria,

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SesaiaraReblad rom ar moiklavda

Tavs, cxadia.

axla mTavaria, `nacmoZraobis-

`Rirseuli~ gamarjvebis Semdeg viRacviRacebma

quCaSi gamosvla da xmis amo-

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mier gamogzavnil leqss saTauriT

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iyos:

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#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

gvesaubreba konfliqtebisa da

molaparakebebis saerTaSoriso

kvleviTi centris direqtori,

profesori gogi xuciSvili:

_ batono gogi, NDI-m kvleva

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mxars 12 procenti

uWers.

_ NDI avtoritetiani saer-

TaSoriso organizaciaa, magram

meore mxriv, igi kvlevebs sakuTari

ZalebiT ar atarebs _ mas adgilobriv

profesiul jgufTan

xelSekruleba aqvs gaformebuli.

Sesabamisad, pasuxismgebloba rasac

NDI-s vakisrebT, qarTul

profesiul jgufze unda gadavamisamarToT.

jgufi, romelTanac

luis navaro muSaobs, ar SeiZleba

miukerZoeblad, obieqturad CaiTvalos.

kargi iqneboda NDI-s

drodadro sxvadasxva jgufebTan

gaeformebina xelSekruleba, magram

am arCevnebisTvis es rCeva ukve

dagvianebulia.

_ rogor fiqrobT, vis dau-

Wers am arCevnebSi amerika mxars

_ mixeil saakaSvils Tu xalxs?

maTi mxardaWera xom yovelTvis

prezidents ekuTvnoda.

_ axla, ase ar iqneba, Tumca

xelisuflebas xels uwyobs is

garemoeba, rom amerikas aRar

surs ise gamoCndes, TiTqos zewolas

axdens erTi romelime politikuri

Zalis sawinaaRmdegod

an sasargeblod. amitomacaa aSS

sakuTar qmedebebsa da Sefasebeb-

Si TavSekavebuli, magram Sefasebebi,

rac amerikeli politologebis,

mecnierebis mier keTdeba,

vaSingtonis mxridan mxardaWerilia.

amas didi mniSvneloba aqvs.

Sefasebebi, romelic araoficialuri

xaziT keTdeba, Zalian kritikulia.

amitom, SeiZleba iTqvas,

rom aSS-s damokidebuleba

Secvlilia, rac gamowveulia SemdegiT

_ yvela civilizebuli

qveynis praqtikiTa da kanoniT,

gundi, romelmac xelisuflebaSi

ori vada amowura, unda wavides

da adgili sxva gunds dauTmos.

mTavari esaa. unda moxdes xelisuflebis

tranzicia, magram es

procesi CvenTan gaZnelebulia,

radgan jgufi, romelic xelisuflebaSia

imdenadaa CabRauWebuli

skamebs, rom praqtikulad

aravis aZlevs SesaZleblobas Zalaufleba

gauyos.

_ saakaSvilma aRniSna kidec,

aRmaSenebelma 20 weli moandoma

qveynis gaerTianebaso. es, praqtikulad

miniSneba iyo, rom igi arsad

wasvlas ar apirebs.

_ axla XXI saukunea, saakaSvili

ki XII-XIII saukunis ambebs

gvTavazobs saprogramo miznad.

man xom Tqva _ Cemi aSenebuli

qveyana sxvas rogor unda gadavceo.

mas unda Tanamedrove modernizebuli

iarliyiT feodaluri

tipis urCxuli daabrunos qveynis

mmarTvelobaSi.

_ rac Seexeba senatorebis vizits,

rogor SeafasebT maT gancxadebebs?

_ saerTod, Zalian kritikulad,

skeptikurad vuyureb imas,

rom winasaarCevno periodSi saqarTveloSi

swored is senatorebi

Camodian, romlebic saakaSvils

uWeren mxars. es, winasaarCevnod

politkur zewolas hgavs. es xelisuflebis

erT-erTi dagegmili

nabiji iyo, raTa saarCevnod TavianTi

politikuri poziciebi gaeZlierebinaT.

makkeini da kidev ramdenime

senatori `respublikuri

partiis~ im konservatiul jgufs

warmoadgenen, romlebic buSis periodSi

radikalur poziciaze iyvnen,

ramac saqarTvelos ara de-

mokratiuli, aramed avtoritaruli

gziT svlas Seuwyo xeli.

_ am fonze, ramdenad unda

gvqondes demokratiuli arCevnebis

Catarebis molodini?

_ molodini mainc unda gvqondes.

imitom, rom gayalbeba garkveul

farglebSi xdeba. ar arsebobs

absoluturi, sruli gayalbeba.

yvelaferi amomrCevlis aqtivobaze,

mis Camoyalibebulobazea

damokidebuli. Tu xalxi 1

oqtombers im arCevans gaakeTebs,

rasac axla misi ganwyobebi gamoxatavs,

maSin mmarTvelma partiam

ver unda SeZlos imdeni xmis dagroveba,

rom absolutur dominantur

poziciaSi darCes. magram Tu

aRmoCnda, rom Cveni amomrCeveli

winaaRmdegobrivi, Camouyalibebeli,

sustia gadawyvetilebis mi-

RebaSi da `imedis~, `rusTavi-2~is

gavlenis qveS eqceva, maSin samomavlod

am qveynis saqme cudad

yofila.

_ rogor fiqrobT, dRevandeli

amomrCeveli sustia gadawyvetilebis

miRebaSi?

_ diax, sustia da swored es

maRelvebs. es imas niSnavs, rom am

arCevnebis Semdeg Cveni demokratiuli

ganviTarebis perspeqtivebi

da Zler saxelmwifod Camoyalibebis

survili, didi kiTxvis

niSnis qveS dgas. mosaxleobis umravlesobam

xeli unda Seuwyos

arsebuli viTarebis Secvlas da

parlamenti im Zalebisgan dakompleqtdes,

ra moTxovnac sazogadoebaSia.

amJamad, Cven xelovnuri

parlamenti gvaqvs, es unda dam-

Tavrdes. amomrCevelTan Sexvedrebs

vmarTavT, isini xSirad aRniSnaven

_ gvinda, azri ufro aqtiurad

gamovxatoT, magram gve-

Sinia da Tavs vikavebTo. ki, batono,

axla SeikaveT Tavi, magram ar

SeikavoT Tavi 1 oqtombers, sadac

aravin giyurebT da Tavisuflad

SegiZliaT azris dafiqsireba.

mTavari esaa, magram Tu sakuTari,

realuri arCevanis dafiqsireba

mosaxleobas masobrivad gauWirda,

ukve qveynis momavalze didi

kiTxvis niSani daismeba. safrTxe

imisa, rom mosaxleobas am arCevanis

gakeTeba gauWirdeba, arsebobs.

magram mainc imeds vitoveb, rom 1

oqtombers arCevnebze xalxi Camoyalibebuli

poziciiT mova.

_ opoziciuri partiebis didi

nawili xmamaRla acxadebs,

rom arCevnebi ukve gayalbebulia.

zogi Tvlis, rom am SemTxvevaSi

gamosavali meore dRes quCaSi gamosvla

da msoflios mier Cveni

daTvlaa. ras fiqrobT, amaze?

_ ra Tqma unda, sjobs arCevnebamde

dagvTvalon. arcerTi saerTaSoriso

organizacia da damkvirvebelTa

jgufi sakuTar Tavze

ar aiRebs imas, rom qveynis

mTavrobis mier Seqmnil suraTs

mkveTrad daupirispirdes, gaaba-

Tilos da bolomde gaiyvanos Tavisi

azri, es ar moxdeba. maT ician,

rom TavianT simarTles ver

gaitanen. amitom, maT SeuZliaT

darRvevebis aRmoCena, saerTo vi-

Tarebaze azris gamoTqma, magram

miRebuli Sedegis gauqmebas, Secvlas

vercerTi saerTaSoriso

organizacia sakuTar Tavze ver

aiRebs.

_ anu ra gamodis, maTgan Zveleburad

aRSfoTeba-SeSfoTebas

miviRebT?

_ ase gamodis. amitom, sjobs

reagireba axlave moxdes. Tundac,

Tu vTvliT, rom damkvirveblebi

sakmarisi ar arian, axlave moviTxovoT

damateba. opozicia, samoqalaqo

seqtori axla unda gaaqtiurdes

da ara arCevnebis mere.

es arCevnebi saqarTvelos momavlisTvis

gadamwyvetia. Tu am ar-

Cevnebis Sedegad gairkva, rom saqarTvelos

mosaxleoba eTanxmeba

dRes arsebuli fiqtiuri parlamentis

kidev 4 weli imave saxiT

arsebobs, es ukve sazogadoebis

uunarobaze imetyvelebs, rasac

Zalian mZime Sedegebi mohyveba.

_ opoziciis nawili arCevnebis

gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi mosalodnel

revoluciaze saubrobs,

rogoria Tqveni prognozi am sakiTxTan

mimarTebaSi?

_ aramgonia revolucia moxdes.

aravin dauSvebs xelisuflebis

legitimacia ukve meored revoluciis

gziT moxdes. mTeli

datvirTva ukve amomrCevelze gadadis,

anu ramdenadaa igi cvlilebisTvis

masiurad mzad. ara

konkretulad romelime kandidatis

mxardasaWerad, aramed cvlilebisTvis.

erTpartiuli parlamenti

unda dasruldes, mTeli

datvirTva swored amaze midis _

Tu ramdenadaa mzad amomrCeveli

amisTvis. unda SemuSavdes meqanizmebi,

romelic TviTon arCevnebis

dRis gakontrolebis saSualebas

mogvcems. oRond, ara egzitpolebi.

es mosaxleobaze Zalian

did fsiqologiur gavlenas

axdens. Zalian maSfoTebs erTi

ram _ wina arCevnebis win samoqa-

gogi xuciSvili:

saakaSvils surs

Tanamedrove

modernizebuli

iarliyiT qveynis

mmarTvelobaSi feodaluri

tipis urCxuli daabrunos

laqo seqtorsa da saerTaSoriso

damkvirveblebs Soris sakmaod

mWidro urTierToba da komunikacia

iyo, axla gacilebiT naklebia.

ratom unda xdebodes es? es

arCevnebi xom sasicocxlod ufro

metad mniSvnelovania, vidre

wina.am arCevnebis mimarT ufro

meti yuradRebaa, amave dros damkvirvebelTa

misia ufro naklebad

Semodis kontaqtSi, vidre adre

iyo.

_ ras ukavSirebT am yovelives,

riT SeiZleba iyos es gamowveuli?

_ SemiZlia vTqva, rom quCaSi

viRac adamiani daSinebulia, magram

rogor SeiZleba euTos damkvirvebeli

daaSino?! aba, ra aris

mizezi? _ moumzadebloba im vi-

Tarebisadmi, romelSic samuSaod

Cadixar, Tu ra xdeba?! es CemTvisac

gaugebaria, es kiTxva upasuxodaa

darCenili, magram arsebobs

sxvadasxva manipulaciebi, raTa

naklebi iyos kontaqti, _ saerTa-

Soriso organizaciebs mxolod

im organizaciebTan axvedreben,

romelTaganac xelisufleba winaswar

gaTvlil pasuxs elis. SesaZlebelia

saerTaSoriso organizaciebs

miuTiTeben kidec vis

Sexvdnen da vis ara. anu sakmaod,

arajansaRi saarCevno garemoa.

_ prezidentma 11 regionSi

farTomasStabiani aqciebi Caatara.

es Zalis demonstrireba iyo, Tu...

_ ra Tqma unda, es iyo Zalis

demonstrirebis, aqtivobis, fsiqologiuri

zemoqmedebis moxdena.

arada, roca moqmedi xelisufleba

xar, mTeli administraciuli

resursi xelT gaqvs, gamgebels

ar gauWirdeba skolis direqtorebs,

maswavleblebs xalxis Sekreba

daavalos, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi

maT samsaxuridan gauSveben.

ase, ra Tqma unda, bevri xalxi

mova. rogor SeiZleba es seriozulad

aRviqvaT, rogorc mxarda-

Weris faqtori. es administraciuli

resursis gamoyenebis faqtoria

da ara mxardaWeris.

_ ramdenad sworad migaCniaT

opoziciis mxridan kriminalad

monaTlul xelisuflebasTan er-

Tad arCevnebSi monawileoba. burjanaZe

ambobda: jer gadavayenoT

es xelisufleba da mere davniSnoT

arCevnebio.

_ 7 noembersac egonaT, rom

xalxis kritikuli masa SeZlebda

xelisuflebis gadayenebas, magram

ase ar moxda, imitom, rom raRac

momentSi aSS-m sisuste gamoavlina,

qarTveli xalxis mxridan

ki iyo SemarTeba. burjanaZis pozicia

kargad mesmis, magram politikuri

TvalsazrisiT ver gavamarTleb,

imitom, rom saakaSvils

ase veravin gadaayenebs, amas mxolod

Camoyalibebuli amomrCevlis

gadawyvetilebiT mivaRwevT.

Tu amomrCeveli am sakiTxze CamoyalTibebuli

ar iqna, es ar niSnavs,

rom xelebi unda CamovuSvaT

da yvelaferi daRupulad miviCnioT.

am momentisTvis, rogorc

Cans, situacia Camoyalibebuli ar

aris. xalxi nel-nela yalibdeba,

Rvindeba, magram saqarTvelos,

samwuxarod, meti dro sWirdeba

am CamoyalibebisTvis, vidre sxva

post-sabWoTa qveynebs.

_ sasurveli Sedegis miuRwevlobis

SemTxvevaSi, xom ar

aris xelisuflebis mxridan garkveuli

provokaciebis mowyobis

safrTxe?

_ Tu ruseTs vgulisxmobT,

igi cdilobs saqarTvelos ambebSi

ar Caerios. saqarTvelos arCevnebis

gamo, rusuli jari aq ar Semova,

magram ar aris gamoricxuli

Tavad saakaSvilma moawyos raime

provokacia. Tumca, aqve erTic unda

aRiniSnos _ xelisuflebis

mxridan provokaciis mowyobis sa-

SiSroeba maSin iqneboda, Tu igi

arCevnebSi wagebis perspeqtivis

winaSe dadgeboda. am etapze, xelisuflebis

wagebis perspeqtivas

ver vxedav. mas uzarmazari resursi

aqvs. rac Seexeba opozicias,

igi namdvilad Sewuxebulia da

asec unda iyos. am viTarebaSi, xelisuflebis

xelSi, mosalodnelia

maT xmebi daakldeT. xalxis

molodinia opozicia parlamentSi

Zlierad iyos warmodgenili. Tundac

meore adgilze gasvla opoziciisTvis

win gadadgmuli nabiji

iqneba, magram ra Tqma unda, es

ver Sefasdeba, rogorc maTi gamarjveba.

es iqneba garkveuli winsvla,

magram ara gamarjveba. isev

realobidan unda gamovideT _ Tu

ramdenadaa Cveni amomrCeveli Camoyalibebuli.

rogorc giTxariT, am

mxriv seriozuli problema

gvaqvs.

Tamar SveliZe

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12 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

winasaarCevno `maraToni~

Zalas ikrebs. `endiais~ kvlevis

Sedegebma, faqtobrivad,

yvelas Tavgza aubnia, sagonebelSi

Caagdo `nacionalebi~,

nuTu marTla mosaxleobis 30

procentia maTi momxre? anda

vin aris mosaxleobis is 21

procenti, romelmac SekiTxvaze,

Tu vis aZlevs xmas pasuxze

uari ganacxada, an is 27

procenti adamianebisa, romel-

Tac pasuxis dakonkretebaze

uari Tqves? maTi erToblioba

saerTo jamSi, 48 procents

Seadgens. es ki sakmaod didi

procentia amomrCevlebisa, romelTa

pasuxi 1 oqtombers realurad

dafiqsirdeba da yvelafers

naTeli moefineba. manamde

ki vis darCeba gamarjveba,

jer kidev gaurkvevelia.

imedianad arian rogorc `nacionalebi~,

ise koalicia `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebi.

realurad gamoikveTa erTi

ram, kerZod is, rom `nacmoZraoba~

gamarjvebis miRwevisaTvis

yvelaferze wamsvlelia, aqedan

gamomdinare ki darRvevebi ukve

daiwyes. ra tipis darRvevebi

gamoikveTa amJamad? rogor

ibrZvian gamarjvebisTvis?

am SekiTxvebs Cven faqtebiT

vupasuxebT.

1. vin arian saarCevno komisiebSi

`nacionaluri moZraobis~

momxre 6 kaci, romelnic

`saolqos~ warmomadgenlebad

iTvlebian?

_ eseni arian sxvadasxva

saministroebSi da adgilobriv

TviTmmarTvelobaSi momuSave

specialistebi, romelnic saarCevno

komisiebSi damoukidebel

wevrebad moavlines. es

xriki `nacionalebma~ winasaar-

Cevnod moifiqres. am adamianTa

zogierTi nawili winasaarCevnod

ufaso SvebulebaSi gauSves,

radgan TviTmmarTvelobaSi

momuSave TanamSromlebs saar-

Cevno kampaniaSi CarTva ekrZalebaT.

amdenad, saarCevno komisieb-

Si mmarTveli partiis mier daniSnuli

wevrebis garda `nacionalebis~

sasargeblod `damoukidebeli~

upartio wevrebic

imuSaveben, maT raodenoba ki

iqneba 7 kaci. amas kvlav emateba

qristian demokratiuli

moZraobis 1, amave partiis Svilobili

partiis `qristian-demokratiuli

saxalxo partiis~

_ 1, `evropeli demokratebis 1

wevri, romelnic sruliad

uWeren mxars `nacionalebs~ da

es yovelive saarCevno ubnebze

Catarebul pirvel sxdomaze

naTlad gamoikveTa. isini sruli

SeTanxmebiT, erToblivad

moqmedeben. dRemde neitralur

pozicias inarCuneben leibo-

ristebi~, romelTac xelisufleba

aras erCis da arc zRudavs

im dros, roca `qarTuli

ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebze arnaxuli

zewola mimdinareobs.

aqac faqtebs moviSveliebT.

faqti _ 1

2012 wlis 5 seqtembers,

01.00 saaTze yvarlis raionSi,

sof. SildaSi policiam daakava

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

yvarlis r-nis zonis koordinatori

levan xuciSvili

da amave koaliciis wevri da

aqtivisti _ zaza rostiaSvili

mis kuTvnil sacxovrebel bina-

Si da gadaiyvana policiis winaswari

dakavebis izolatorSi.

maTi dakaveba moxda baCo

nikoloziSvilis Cvenebis safuZvelze,

romelic aris `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ koordinatoris

biZaSvilis meuRle

da misi ganmartebiT levan xuciSvilma

mas `nacionali~

uwoda.

faqti _ 2

26 agvistos kaspSi daakaves

klinika `aversis~ mTavari

eqimi begi TaTriSvili _ generatoris

qurdobis braldebiT.

igi policiam samsaxurSi aiyvana

_ begi TaTriSvili gorSi

winaswari dakavebis izola-

torSi gadaiyvanes, misi saxli

gaCxrikes da iqidan 800 dolaris

odenobiT Tanxa amoiRes.

arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi

imisa, rom kaspis raionis mTavari

eqimi koalicia `qarTul

ocnebasTan~ kavSiris gamo daakaves,

radganac dakavebamde

erTi dRiT adre, begi TaTriSvils

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma

im TanamSromelTa sia

mosTxoves, romlebic saakaSvilis

dasaxvedrad wavidodnen,

razedac man uari ganacxada!

misi Svili ki koalicia `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ kaspis organizaciis

wevria da maTi maJoritari

kandidatis daviT onofriSvilis

saarCevno Sexvedreb-

Si monawileobs.

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

warmomadgenlebi acxadeben,

rom begi TaTriSvili avtoritetuli

pirovnebaa da

kaspSi is seriozul safrTxes

warmoadgens `nacionaluri

moZraobisaTvis~.

faqti _ 3

`xramhesis~ generalurma

direqtorma devi kandelakma,

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

9 aqtivisti gaaTavisufla samsaxuridan.

aqedan 7 wevri iyo

`xramhesis 1~-is TanamSromeli,

2-ki `xramhesi-2~-is TanamSromeli,

motivi samsaxuridan

gaSvebisa aris martivi _ Statebis

Semcireba! oRondac, es

Semcireba, mxolod `qarTuli

ocnebis~ mxardamWerebs exebaT

zogadad, es yvelgan asea.

sinamdvileSi es gaxlavT

adamianebis politikuri niSniT

devna.

faqti _ 4

bolnisSi `qarTuli ocnebis~

maJoritarobis kandidati

aris darejan Cxetiani, misi

Zma da siZe muSaobdnen iq saxanZro-samaSvelo

samsaxurSi,

oriveni gauSves samsaxuridan.

amave raionidan daiTxoves samsaxuridan

bevri ocnebis `ocnebis~

momxreebi, maT Soris

baga-baRis TanamSromeli _

nacionalebis

winasaarCevno oinebi

lali moroSkina nacionalebis

xelisuflebaSi darCenis SemTxvevaSi

evropaSi politikur TavSesafars moiTxovs

Jurnalist lali moroSkinas mtkicebiT, is saqarTvelos

erovnul universitetSi profesoris Tanamdebobidan politikuri

Sexedulebebis gamo gaaTavisufles.

rogorc moroSkinam dRes mediapalitris ofisSi gamar-

Tul preskonferenciaze ganacxada, man ramdenjerme, maT Soris

Ria eTerSi, koalicia “qarTul ocnebas” mxardaWera gamoucxada.

garda amisa, mmarTvel gundSi arc mis mier gamocemuli

wignebi moswondaT.

moroSkinas mtkicebiT, imis Sesaxeb, rom igi samsaxuridan

gaTavisuflebuli iyo universitetis reqtorma gia kavTuaSvilma

acnoba da SesTavaza, rom “ar exmaura da xelfass SeunarCunebdnen”.

Jurnalistis TqmiT, es misTvis Seuracxmyofelia.

misive gancxadebiT, im SemTxvevaSi Tu pirveli oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg “nacmoZraoba”

saparlamento umravlesobaSi aRmoCndeba, igi evropis romelime saxelmwifos politikur

TavSesafars sTxovs.

`medianiusi~

aleqsiSvili eka, pedagogi asaniZe,

gazis sammarTvelos TanamSromeli

zina kopaliani,

`madneulis~ TanamSromeli _

CakvetaZe, sakrebulos TanamSromeli

_ kapanaZe.

faqti _ 5

axalqalaqis raionis ninowmindaSi

`qarTul ocnebas~

ofisis moZiebaSi exmareboda

iqauri mkvidri levon varTaniani,

is arc koaliciis wevria

da arc araferi. miuxedavad

amisa, is dakavebuli iqna am

faqti gamo da miyvanil iqna

gamgeobis SenobaSi, sadac imJamad

imyofeboda `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ maJoritarobis kandidati

miqoiani, aseve, policiis

ufrosi am regionis da

gamgebeli.

am faqtis Sesaxeb operatiulad

acnobes gogla Jvanias,

`qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenels

am regionSi, romelic

movida SemTxvevis adgilze,

magram is iq ar SeuSves, manqaniT

gza gadauketes. amis mere

datyvevebuli varTaniani policiis

manqanaSi Casves da

somxeTis sazRvrisken waiyva-

nes, romelsac manqaniTve, daedevna

Stabis ufrosi gogla

Jvania, magram mas manqaniT gza

gadauketes da ar misces miaxloebis

saSualeba. saqarTvelos

moqalaqe levon varTaniani

ki somxeTis sazRvarze gadaiyvanes

da iq datoves. amJamad

is veRar Semodis saqarTveloSi

garkveuli mizezebis

gamo.

faqti _ #6

mniSvnelovani incidenti

moxda axalqalaqis raionis saolqo-saarCevno

komisiis

sxdomaze, sadac nacionalebis

warmomadgenelma qalbatonma,

jer sityvieri Seuracxyofa

miayena `qarTuli ocnebis~

warmomadgenlebs, Semdeg ki

Cxubi atexa iseTi, rom moxda

komisiis wevrebs Soris Sexla-Semoxla

da fizikurad er-

TmaneTisaTvis angariSis gasworeba.

samwuxaro is gaxlavT,

rom am faqtis aRniSvnis dros

ceskos Tavmjdomarem batonma

xaratiSvilma `ocnebis~ xalxi

daadanaSaula, Tumca, is ar

aris mxare da amisi ufleba

mas ar aqvs. am saqmis ganxilvisas,

`nacionalurma~ isic aRniSnes,

rom `ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebis

mxridan adgili

hqonda qsenofobias. faqtobrivad,

es ase ar yofila, erovnebas

aranairi mniSvneloba ar

hqonda, radganac olqis Tavmjdomare

iq gaxlavT `nacionali~

maramgoziani da is moiqca

ise, rogorc am partias sCvevia,

miuxedavad erovnebisa.

am faqtebis gverdiT ar SeiZleba

ar gavixsenoT `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ axali meTodebi

xalxis mosyidvisa. ker-

Zod: 1. ratom waiyvanes maT agvistos

TveSi dasasveneblad

banakebSi borjomis raionSi

Tavisive partiis koordinatorebis

Svilebi? 2. ratom Caatara

mosaxleobis aRwera

gurjaanis raionis soflebSi

amave raionis sapatrulo policiis

ganyofilebam? ratom

sTxovdnen isini mosaxleobas

piradobis mowmobebs? 3. ratom

ar dadges dRemde telefonebi

saubno-saarCevno komisiebis

ubnebze imisaTvis, rom xalxma

darekos da moiTxovos saxlSi

saarCevno yuTis mitana?

vis aZlevs xels xalxis

armosvla arCevnebze?

mTavar kiTxvad ki rCeba is,

rom aris Tu ara `cesko~ mxare

da ara damoukidebeli subieqti

arCevnebis dros? _

amas, albaT, axlo momavali

gviCvenebs.

nino kasraZe


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`oqros gombeSos~ mier

miZRvnili oqros zodi

patriarqi ilia II nacmoZraobis

bolnisis maJoritarobis kandidatma

nayofiam oqros zodiT daasaCuqra!

am ramdenime dRis win sruliad

saqarTvelos patriarqi ilia II

bolniss estumra da uZvelesi mar-

Tlmadidebluri taZari bolnisis

sioni mrevlTan da iq Casul samRvdelo

Tu saero pirebTan erTad moiloca!

am istoriaSi TiTqosda gasakviri

araferia, magram namdvilad gamikvirda

am mogzaurobis ramdenime

epizodi da marTali giTxraT, aRv-

SfoTdi kidec!

aRvSfoTdi imitom, rom sapatriarqos

delegaciis oficialuri

maspinZeli, `oqros gombeSod~ wodebuli,

`nac.moZraobisa~ da ruse-

Tis xelisuflebis mier saqarTveloSi

movlenili, saakaSvilis biZis

Temur alasanias Zmakaci `efesbeSniki~

generalovis moadgile, amJamad

bolnisis r-nis maJoritari kandidati

koba nayofia gaxldaT da ara

is mrevli, romelic patriarqs fexdafex

misdevda yvelgan, sadac ki is

im dRes mibrZandeboda.

televiziiT gadaica is kadrebic,

roca xelSi Cvilatatebuli

qalebi, moxuci adamianebi Tu xeibrebi

didi mondomebiT iltvodnen

patriarqTan Sesaxvedrad, moTminebiT

elodnen mis miaxloebas, magram

e.w. saxelmwifo `dacva~, Tu koba

nayofias piradi `dacva~, maT patriarqamde

xSir SemTxvevaSi, ar uSvebda,

rac araTu miuRebeli, aramed

amazrzeni sanaxavic ki iyo.

da mainc, ratom maincdamainc

koba nayofia SearCia samaspinZlod

adgilobrivma Tu regionulma xelisuflebam

sapatriarqos samdivnos-

Tan erTad?

albaT, imitom, rom `nacionaluri

xelisufleba~ ukeT umaspinZlebda

da izrunebda yoveliveze, maT

Soris stumarTa usafrTxoebaze,

magram am winasaarCevnod Tavad sapatriarqom

ratom ganacxada Tanxmoba,

`generalur maspinZlad~ maJoritarobis

kandidati, Tanac milioneri

nayofia hyolodaT da ara,

vTqvaT, bolnisis eparqia?

ufro metic, gana am damSeul

qveyanaSi sircxvili ar aris, umaRlesma

samRvdelo pirma _ yaCaRobiT

gamdidrebuli adamianebisgan oqros

zodi miiRos saCuqrad da isic warweriT:

`saqarTvelos patriarqi

ilia II~.

diax, specialurad patriarqisTvis

Camosxmuli 1 kg. oqros zodi

gadasca avazakma `nacionalma~ koba

nayofiam ilia II-s. gulaxdilad

vambob, gamikvirda, Zalian gamikvirda

es faqti da amavdroulad, gavb-

razdi kidec. imitom, rom jer er-

Ti _ gaaCnia vin gTavazovs saCuqars

da meorec, imasac gaaCnia, am gatyavebul

qveyanaSi, ra saxis saCuqars

mogarTmeven keTilganwyobis sanacvlod!!!

Tu mexsiereba ar mRalatobs,

wminda sinodma winasaarCevnod `specialuri

kanonic~ ki miiRo imis Sesaxeb,

rom samRvdelo pirebs kategoriulad

ekrZalebaT saarCevno

propaganda, romelime politikuri

gvamis mimarT, agreTve ekrZalebaT

simpatiebis gamoxatva da axla, roca

3 kviraSi arCevnebi iqneba, sinodis,

sapatriarqos da TviT ilia II

CabrZaneba bolnisSi, maTi keTilganwyoba

nayofias mimarT rogor unda

SevafasoT _ ubralo SemTxveviTobad

Tu specialur vizitad, romelic

miznad `nac.moZraobis~ kandidatis

mxardaWeras gulisxmobda?!

suliT xorcamde SemZra sul

axlaxan waRveridan TxuTmetiode

kilometrSi, sofel maqarwyalSi,

sakuTari xeliT aSenebul keliaSi

gamomwvari usaTnoesi beri merkviris

Semzaravma sikvdilma da misma

werilma, romlis adresatic saqar-

Tvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi ilia

II-a.

rogorc ukve iTqva, beri merkviri

sakuTar keliaSi gamomwvari ipoves...

pasuxgaucemeli darCa misi

kiTxvebic, arada, es kiTxvebi ara

mxolod bers, erSic mravladaa da

gvipasuxeT, patriarqo, ratom

iRebT ZRvens eklesiebis damangrevelebisgan,

xatebis fexebiT gamTelavebisagan,

qarTvelTa damaqcevrebisagan

da marTlmadideblobasTan mebr-

Zoli nac-satanistebisgan?

aki, ufali Cveni ieso qriste

mogiwodebT: nuca oqrosa da nuca

vercxls nu daxarbdebiTo?!

ra mogitanaT bolnisSi koba nayofias

naCuqarma oqros zodma _

nuTu mrevlis ufro meti siyvaruli?

Tqveno uwmindesobav, mSieri

qveynis patriarqi brZandebiT, upatronod

migdebuli invalidi bavSvebis

da uTavSesafro moxucebis patriarqi

brZandebiT, daavadebuli da

usasood darCenili qarTveli marTlmadideblebis

patriarqi brZandebiT

da imedi maqvs, am oqros zods

auqcionze gaatanienbT da iqidan Semosuli

Tanxebi gaWirvebuelbs da

upovrebs moxmardeba.

pativiscemiT,

marTlmadidebeli qristiani

irine gogosaSvili

Cveni gazeTi erT-erTi pirveli

iyo, romlis furclebidanac

sazogadoebam dadasturebulad

Seityo, rom lopotas

xeobaSi CeCen mebrZolTa jgufi

gamiznulad, mZinare mdgomareobaSi

Caxoces. eWvebi amis Sesaxeb,

Ss saministros mier gavrcelebuli

kadrebis gamoCenis-

Tanave gaCnda, radgan daxocili

meomrebis umetesoba saZile

tomrebSi iwvnen. Tumca, danadvilebiT

amaze saubris ufleba

mxolod mas Semdge miveci Tavs,

rac ambis TviTmxilvels vesaubre.

ukve ori kvira gadis

lopotas sisxliani specoperaciidan,

da sazogadoebis kiTxvebze

pasuxi jerac ar aris ga-

cemuli: ratom da visi davalebiT

gadmokveTes sazRvari Ce-

Cenma mebrZolebma; rogor moaxerxes

am raodenobis sabrZolo

teqnikiT sazRvris gadmokveTa

SeumCnevlad; sad midiodnen;

ratom aris amdeni Seusabamoba

mZevalTa monaTxrobSi?!

mmaammuukkaa aarreeSSiiZZee –– eeqqssppeerrttii

kkaavvkkaassiiiiss ssaakkiiTTxxeebbSSii:: specoperaciis

kadrebidan jer-jerobiT

kidev uamravi pasuxgaucemeli

kiTxva arsebobs. magram

danamdvilebiT SeiZleba iTqvas,

rom es razmi midioda samxreTidan

CrTiloeTisaken da

ara piriqiT. maT rom siriaSi

gadasvla sdomodaT, isini

aeroportSi mividodnen kostiumebiT

da xelsac aravin

SeuSlidaT gamgzavrebaSi. aseve

zustad SeiZleba iTqvas

rom razmi kvalificiuri mebrZolebiT

iyo dakompleqtebuli.

maT kvalifikacias amtkicebs

SeiaraRebac. razmi maRali

donis iaraRiT iyo aRWurvili,

romliTac elitaruli

spec-razmebia SeiaraRebuli.

mniSvnelovania am iaraRebis

fasic. rusuli warmoebis

iaraRebisa da SaSxanebis garda,

Ss mier gavrcelebul videomasalaSi

Cans avstriuli

SaSxanac, romlis fasi daaxloebiT,

3 000 aSS dolaria.

es sakmaod elitaruli SaSxanaa,

magaliTad gru-s specrazmebis

SeiaraRebaSi es SaSxana

mxolod SarSan gamoCda,

imdenad Zviria igi. garda amisa,

maT hqondaT Zalian seriozuli

iaraRi, “teplovizori”,

Ramis da dRis xedvis aparati,

misi fasi daaxloebiT 8 000

dolaria. mniSvnelovania isic,

rom am iaraRis xmarebas erT

da or dReSi ver iswavli. misi

gamoyenebis Seswavlas Tvenaxevari,

ori Tve sWirdeba. es

imaze migvaniSnebs rom es razmi

wina dRes Sekrebili ar

aris. im kadrebidan gamomdinare,

rac eTerSi Cans, SemiZlia

giTxraT, rom TiToeul maTgans

50 kilogrami tvirTi

mihqonda. rac imis maniSnebelia,

rom es adamianebi Zalian

seriozul saqmeze midiodnen

da apirebdnen, rom garkveuli

periodis ganmavlobaSi samyaros

mowyvetilebi yofiliyvnen,

daaxloebiT erTi kviris

an aTi dRis ganmavlobaSi.

razmis kvalifikaciis, momzadebis

da aRWurvis done imdenad

maRali iyo, rom xazgasmiT

vambob, es razmi 11 kacs

konkretul brZolaSi ar dakargavda.

gardacvlilTa nawili

moulodnelad iyo Caxocili.

am adamianebisaTvis rom Setakeba

moulodenli iyo, amas

mowmobs isic, rom maTi nawili

saZile tomrebSi iyo da garda

amisa isic, rom zogierT gvams

Zalian bevri tyvia aqvs moxvedrili.

brZolaSi iSviaTia, rom

adamians bevri tyvia moxvdes,

Tu iq ar aris moulodnelobis

efeqti, an Tu igi uiaraRo ar

aris.

__ rrooggoorr mmooxxddaa,, rroomm mmssggaavvssii

kkvvaalliiffiikkaacciiiiss rraazzmmiiss yyvveellaa

wweevvrrssMMAA eerrTTddrroouullaadd ddaaiiZZiinnaa??

_ isini, savaraudod, awarmoebdnen

molaparakebas xelisuflebis

romelime warmomadgenelTan.

molaparakebaSi mona-

wileobda calxela axmedi, romelic

zustad im droisaTvis

iyo wamosuli detalebis dasazusteblad

da mosalaparakeblad.

amitom razmis wevrebi xifaTs

ar elodnen.

__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraammddeennaadd

SSeessaaZZlleebbeelliiaa aasseeTTii SSeeiiaarraaRReebbiiTT

rraazzmmmmaa ssaazzRRvvaarrii SSeeuummCCnneevvllaadd

ggaaddaakkvveeTTooss??

_ rac Seexeba imas, Tu rogor

gadaadgildebodnen isini,

an saqarTvelos xelisflebam

unda aRiaros, rom qveyanaSi

aranairi usafrTxoebis sistema

ar arsebobs, an saqmeSi Tavisi

warmomadgenlis Tanamonawileobaze

unda gaakeTos gancxadeba.

is rom es adamianebi mTispira

tyeebiT gadaadgildebodnen, es

ar aris gasamarTlebeli mizezi.

aseTi razmis ekipirebas,

Cacma-daxurvas da Semdeg mis

daZvras, viRac mainc Seaswrebda

Tvals. ase, rom, es razmi

lafanyuramde TavisiT ver mividoda.

__ SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa TTuu aarraa iimmiiss

TTqqmmaa,, rroomm aamm rraazzmmiiss CCaammooyyvvaannaa

ddaa eekkiippiirreebbaa xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss

ddaakkvveeTTiiTT mmooxxddaa??

_ amis Tqma Zalian sapasuximgebloa.

msgavsi gancxadeba

did yuradRebas miiqcevs, ara

mxolod qarTuli sazogadoebis,

aramed sxva qveynebisac,

maT Soris ruseTis. erT mSve-

saerTo gazeTi

nier dRes ruseTis xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebi amas

xelze daixveven da Cvens winaaRmdge

gamoiyeneben. Tumca,

isic saTqmelia, rom xelisuflebis

monawileobis gareSe es

razmi saqarTvelos teritoriaze

ver moxvdeboda. sakiTxavi

mxolod isaa, xelisuflebis

romeli rgoli iyo am saqmeSi

gareuli.

__ SSeessaaZZlleebbllaadd mmiiggaaCCnniiaaTT,,

rroomm eess aammbbaavvii pprreezziiddeennttss aarr

ssccooddnnooddaa??

_ dazustebiT ver vityvi,

magram egec SesaZlebelia. msoflioSi

yofila msgavsi precedentebi.

magaliTad, amerikis

SeerTebuli Statebis prezidenti

ramdenjerme ar iyo mniSvnelovani

specoperaciis saqmis

kursSi, igive SeiZleba iTqvas

israelis prezidentzec. eWvs

imis Sesaxeb, rom specoperacia,

xelisuflebis romelime rgolis

da ara mTlianad xelisuflebis

sindiszea, isic iwvevs,

rom specoperacia spontanurobis

elementebs Seicavda. Cvens

mTavrobas uyvars “sufTad” mu-

Saoba. am specoperaciam ki imdeni

kiTxvebi datova sazogadoebaSi

da imden Seusabamobas Se-

lopotas xeobaSi momxdari

istoriis axali detalebi

icavda Ss sammarTvelos mier

gakeTebuli gancxadebebi da videomasalebi,

rom savaraudod,

specoperacia Catarda spontanurad,

detalebis ganuxilvelad

da saerTo SeTanxmebis gareSe.

garda amisa, roca raRac

xdeba – aucileblad unda daisvas

kiTxva – vin moigo? amjerad,

am kiTxvaze pasuxi ar

sCans. xelisuflebas namdvilad

araferi mougia. piriqiT, Tu

ityvis, rom razmma TavisiT moaxerxa

lafanyuramde misvla,

gamodis, xelisuflebam da qveynis

uSiSroebam sakuTari ususuroba

unda aRiaros, xolo

Tu am razmTan xelisuflebis

kavSiri dadginda, es faqti saakaSvilis

imijze didi dartyma

iqneba.

__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, mmaaiinncc rraaSSii

SSeeiiZZlleebbooddaa ddaassWWiirrvveebbooddaa xxeelliissuufflleebbaass

mmssggaavvssii rraazzmmiiss

SSeeqqmmnnaa??

_ Tavdasacavad, saidumlo

davalebebis Sesasruleblad.

ramdenime wlis winaT iyo saubari

imazec, rom xelisuflebas

surs Seqmnas ucxouri legioni.

mogexsenebaT, arsebobs

msgavsi regionebi safrangeTsa

da espaneTSi. Tumca, mas Semdeg

am legionis Seqmnaze araferi

msmenia. ase, rom dazustebiT

verafers vityvi.

Tamuna keSelava

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14 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba partia ``Tavisufali

saqqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare

kaxa kukava::

_ kaxa, bolo dros xelisufleba

da opoziciac saerTa-

Soriso damkvirveblebis vizitiT

aRfrTovanebas ver malaven,

romelTac Cveni arCevnebis samarTlianoba

unda gansazRvron.

Aqamde, maTgan mxolod es fraza

dagvamaxsovrda _ garkveuli

xarvezebi iyo, magram saboloo

jamSi arCevnebi demokratiulad

Catardao. ras unda velodoT

amJamad?

_ vfiqrob, saerTaSoriso

organizaciebis imedi ar unda

gvqondes, umjobesia maTze adekvaturi

warmodgena viqonioT. vin

arian isini? _ isini arian evropelebi

da amerikelebi. evropelebi

saqarTvelos Sida saqmeeb-

Si veranairad ver Caerevian, maqsimum

SeuZliaT Zalian rbili

gancxadebebis gakeTeba. rac Seexeba,

aSS-s, maT gavlenis berketebi

aqvT, Tumca unda gvesmodes,

rom aSS-sTvis mTavari iqneba

ara is Tu ramdenad demokratiulad

Catardeba CvenTan ar-

Cevnebi, aramed is, Tu romeli

Zala CaiTvleba ufro pro-amerikulad.

dRes, NDI-s, `ai-rais~

kvlevebiT, aseve, makkeinis, obamas,

klintonis gancxadebebiT da

zogadad amerikuli polit.elitis

poziciidan gamomdinare, na-

Telia _ aSS miiCnevs, rom misi

strategiuli mokavSire, am regionSi,

mixeil saakaSvilia. sanam

es pozicia ar Seicvleba, manamde

fiqri imaze, rom amerikeli

damkvirveblebi saqarTvelo-

Si Catarebul arCevnebze kritikul

daskvnas daweren, warmoudgenelia.

2003 weli gamonaklisi

iyo zustad imitomac, rom Jvania,

saaakaSvili (maSin maT sorosis

premiebi miiRes) proamerikul

Zalebad, xolo Sevardna-

Ze yofil sabWoTakavSirel funqcionerad

iTvleboda. dRes, vi-

Tareba piriqiTaa Secvlili. saakaSvili

im qveynis lideria,

romelic avRaneTSi da eraySi

umsxviles misiebs agzavnis, xolo

biZina ivaniSvili maTTvis

rusi oligarqia, romelmac saku-

Tari kapitalis Cadeba saqarTveloSi

gadawyvita.

_ am fonze ras niSnavda makkeinis

gancxadeba?

_ makkeinis gancxadeba simptomaturi

iyo. man Tqva _ ivaniSvilma

dagvarwmuna, rom ruseTTan

yovelgvari kavSiri gawyvita.

es Zalian saintereso gancxadebaa,

sadac ori momenti

Cans _ pirveli _ ivaniSvili

makkeinTan Sexvedrisas Tavs

imarTlebda, saubari iyo ara ar-

Cevnebze, aramed imis darwmunebaze,

rom ruseTTan araferi akav-

Sirebs da meore, TavisTavad,

faqti, rom ivaniSvili ruseTTan

iyo kavSirSi orive mxaris mier

aRiarebulia. mkiTxvelma ise ar

gaigos, TiTqos me ivaniSvils

bralad vuyeneb ruseTTan kav-

Sirs. ra Tqma unda, es ase araa.

aramed me Semdegs vambob _ aSSsTvis

ivaniSvili braldebulia,

mixeil saakaSvili ki maTi sisxlxorceuli

mokavSire. aqedan

gamomdinare, prognozireba ar

unda gagviWirdes, Tu vis mxares

daiWers aSS.

_ avRaneTSi da eraySi umsxvilesi

misiebis gagzavnac xom

ar aris imis winapiroba, rom

aSS arCevnebis gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi

Tvals daxuWavs da kvlav

demokratiuli arCevnebis Catarebas

mogvilocavs.

_ ra Tqma unda, zustad asea,

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis misia

swored amas emsaxureba. es

momenti adekvaturad unda Sefasdes.

rodesac rigi opoziciuri

partiebi gveubnebian, TiTqos

makkeini ama Tu im sakiTxTan

mimarTebaSi Tavis sasargeblod

daarwmunes, es ubralod xalxis

motyuebaa. maT makkeini verafer-

Si ver daarwmunes. es ubralod

Tavis motyuebaa. aSS SeiZleba

daTanxmdes, rom ruseTTan kav-

Sirgawyvetili `qarTuli ocneba~

meore adgilze gaiyvanos.

_ maSin risi imedi aqvs opozicias,

es marto `qarTul ocnebas~

xom ar exeba, `Tavisufali

saqarTveloc~ xom pro-rusuli

Zalad moiazreba.

_ Cven unda mivmarToT klasikas,

roca qveyana damoukidebeli

araa, aseT qveyanaSi erovnul-ganmanTavisuflebelimoZraoba

unda daiwyos, romelic qveynis

realur damoukideblobas

moipovebs. dRes erovnul-ganman-

Tavisuflebeli moZraobis Canasaxs

`Tavisufali saqarTvelo~

warmoadgens. Tumca, ra Tqma unda,

es srulfasovan erovnulganmanTavisuflebel

moZraobaSi

mas Semdeg gadaizrdeba, rac sazogadoebis

kritikuli masis

mxridan mxardaWeras miviRebT.

vfiqrob, dRes gamofxizlebis

etapze varT. sazogadoebis garkveul

nawilSi gamofxizleba daiwyo,

Tumca vfiqrob, umravle-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

soba mainc buranSia. sazogadoeba

isev im azrebis da ideebis

tyveobaSia _ aSS mxars dagvi-

Wers, ivaniSvilma lobistebi daiqirava

da a.S. rodesac am buranidan

gamovalT da davinaxavT,

rom saqarTvelos dolari ki

ara, aramed damoukidebloba gadaarCens,

mxolod amis Semdeg

SevZlebT realuri politikuri

procesis daZvras.

_ rac Seexeba lobisturi

kompaniebis daqiravebas, Tu isini

saqarTeloSi Catarebul ar-

Cevnebs ar aRiareben, xom ar

aris safrTxe es xelisuflebam

`lobistur SeTqmulebad~ gamoacxados?

_ minda giTxra, rom lobistebs

aSS-Si aranairi zegavlena

ar aqvT. miTebi lobistebis Sesaxeb

Zalian gadaWarbebulia.

imdenad diskreditrebuli iqna

maTi saqmianoba, rom roca obama

aSS-s prezidentad airCies,

erT-erTi pirveli iniciativa,

riTac man kongress mimarTa lobistebis

akrZalva iyo. lobistebi

arian meqrTameebi, sabWoTa

kavSiris drosac iyo xalxi, visac

obexeSi, cekaSi, tekaSi saqmis

Cawyoba SeeZloT. ise ar unda

warmovidginoT, TiTqos lobistebi

politikur gadawyveti-

lebas iReben. politikur gadawyetilebebs

iReben TeTr saxlSi,

saxelmwifo departament-

Si, senatSi, kongresSi. lobistebs

SeuZliaT garkveuli, individualuri

sakiTxebis gadawyveta,

romelzec ar arsebobs aSSs

Camoyalibebuli, principuli

pozicia. im sakiTxebze, romelzec

aSS-s mTavrobas Tavis

strategia aqvs Camoyalibebuli,

Zalian sasaciloa vifiqroT,

rom lobistebi masze raime zegavlenis

moxdenas SeZleben.

aSS-s evraziis, ruseTis mosazRvre

regionebSi Tavisi Camoyalibebuli

xedva aqvs, romelic

ar Seicvleba imisda miuxedavad

Seicvlebian Tu ara prezidentebi.

_ dRes Seqmnili saarCevno

garemos gaTvaliswinebT, bevri

arCevnebis gayalbebaze saubrobs.

Tumca, rigi opoziciuri partiebi

imasac amboben, rom aseT Sem-

TxvevaSi meore dRes quCaSi gamovlen

da dae, msofliom dagv-

Tvalos ramdeni varTo. Tu maincdamainc

Cvens daTvlaSia xsna,

xom ar sjobda arCevnebamde daveTvaleT?

_ vfiqrob, aseTi tipis saubrebi

daTvlaze, Zalian saxifa-

Toa imitom, rom es niSnavs, rom

calkeul opoziciur Zalebs

konkretuli gegma ar aqvT da

raRac zogadi frazebiT saubroben.

daTvla _ es ukiduresad

araseriozulia imitom, rom jer

erTi aravin aravis ar daTvlis,

meorec _ Tu daTvlian, am

ricxvs Seamcireben da samze gayofen

da rac mTavaria, sisulelea

imis molodini, rom vinc

xmas gvaZlevs yvela arCevnebze

modis. levan gaCeCilaZem saprezidento

arCevnebze oficialurad

500 aTasi xma aiRo, realurad,

albaT es 700 aTasi xma

iyo, magram mitingze 100 aTas

kacze meti ar mosula. vinmes

rom daveTvaleT da eTqva 100

aTasi xma misces levan gaCeCla-

Zeso, es namdvilad xelisufle-

bisTvis kargi koziri iqneboda.

amitom, opoziciurma partiebma

imaze ki ar unda isaubron vin

dagvTvalos, aramed ramdenad misaRebia

calkeuli opoziciuri

partiebisTvis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris

Semdgom saparlamento

umciresobis reJimSi brZolis

gagrZeleba. ai, es aris mTavari

SekiTxva da ara is, dagvTvlian

Tu ara. sazogadoebas ainteresebs

risTvis vibrZviT _ meore

Tu pirveli adgilisTvis. `Tavisufali

saqarTvelo~ vacxadebT:

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu opoziciuri

partiebi jamSi 50 procentze

ufro naklebs aiReben, mzad

varT Cvens kolega opozicioner

ZalebTan erTad revoluciaSi

miviRoT monawileoba da ara ub-

kaxa kaxa kukava: pirdapir vacxadeb,

Tu saWiro gaxda, revoluciaSi

uyoymanod miviReb monawileobas!

ralod masobriv aqciebSi, maT

Soris, mzad varT revoluciaSi

monawileoba Cveni piradi usafrTxoebis

riskis fasad gavwioT.

sxva opozicioneri partiebisgan

aseTi konkretuli gancxadebebi

ar gakeTebula. saubrebi imis Sesaxeb,

rom dagviTvalon, Segvamowmon

da a.S. es ufro ZiriTad

SekiTxvaze Tavis aridebas hgavs

_ daTanxmdebian Tu ara isini 30

procentiani saparlamento umciresobis

Seqmnas.

_ xelisuflebas gayalbebis

amouwuravi berketi aqvs. rogor

fiqrob, Tu marTla 50 procentze

dabali iqna opoziciuri

partiebis jami, SeiZleba revoluciamde

mivideT?

_ es damokidebulia erT

adamianze _ biZina ivaniSvilze.

zustad vici, rom `Tavisufali

saqarTvelo~ arCevnebis

gayalbebas ar Seegueba.

aseve, zustad vici, rom

TargamaZe, alasania, `respublikelebi~,

`leiboristebi~

iseve rogorc wina arCevnebze,

axlac aucileblad Seeguebian

morig gayalbebas.

magram ar viciT, ra pozicias

daikavebs biZina ivaniSvili.

misi pozicia gadamwyveti

iqneba. Tu igi ityvis,

rom arCevnebis Sedegebs unda

SeveguoT, maSin `Tavisufali

saqarTvelo~ marto

verafers Secvlis. Tu igi

ityvis revoluciaze mivdivarTo,

maSin `respublikelebis~

da `memarjveneebis~ pozicia

sazogadoebisTvis uintereso

iqneba. dRes, ZalTa

ganlageba iseTia, rom sazogadoebrivi

azris sakontrolo

paketi biZina ivaniSvils

uWiravs.

_ bevri opozicioneri mainc

darwmunebiT saubrobs 1 oqtombers

sakuTar gamarjvebaze. magram

ra igulisxmeba amaSi. xom

SeiZleba zogi warmatebad 10

procentiT Sesvlas Tvlides?

_ ki, swored amas vambob, Tako.

Jurnalistebma maT unda

hkiTxoT _ ras izamT, Tu mandatebis

20 procents aiRebT vicespikeris

postze iyriT kenWs Tu

rusTavelze barikadebze dadgebiT?

esaa mTavari SekiTxva, romelzec

yvelas pasuxebi SemiZlia

vivaraudo, biZina ivaniSvilis

garda.


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

_ kaxa, rac Seexeba saar-

Cevno siebs, aq ufro mZime

suraTi ikveTeba, vidre 1.200

aTasi xmis dauzusteblobaa.

erT-erT satelevizio eTer-

Si oponents `tele-kardakaris~

mowyoba SesTavaze.

_ diax, swored dRes

movawyveT `tele-kardakari~,

viyaviT walkis raionis

erT-erT sofelSi, sadac

700 amomrCevlidan

mxolod 50 cxovrobs. Tumca,

iuridiuli procedurebiT

xelisuflebasTan dava

arafris momcemia. rogorc

dasawyisSi vaxsene am process

verc saerTaSoriso

damkvirveblebi ver gadawyveten.

Rrmad mwams, rom xelisuflebis

Secvla SesaZlebelia

revoluciiT.

_ maSin arCevnebs ra

azri aqvs, miTumetes, Tu

viciT, rom arCevnebi ukve

gayalbebulia?

_ ra Tqma unda, amaze

ori azri ar arsebobs. mgonia,

rom aramarto xelisufleba

ayalbebs arCevnebs,

aramed opoziciac maSin,

roca eWvis qveS ayenebs sakiTxs

_ gaayalbebs Tu ara

xelisufleba arCevnebs. ra

Tqma unda, arCevnebi gayal-

bebulia. ra, ar viciT, rom

xaratiSvili minimum 55

procents dauwers `nacionalur

moZraobas~? vinc ambobs,

rom ar viciT, ar gaakeTebs

amas xaratiSvilio,

is gulubryvilo ki ara Tanamonawilea.

vinc axla ambobs

Cven xmebs davicavTo,

es is xalxia, vinc xmamaRla

ambobda _ Cven SevcvliT am

xelisuflebaso da mere ar-

CevnebSi gamarjveba gigi

ugulavas miuloces. es

xalxi dRes ambobs arCevnebs

ver gaayalbebeno. amitom

es arCevnebis gayalbeba-

Si Tanamonawileobaa. sxva-

TaSoris, hitlers aRwerili

aqvs propaganda, romelsac

germanuli da britanuli

samxedro Stabebi erTmaneTis

winaaRmdeg eweodnen.

saintereso magaliTia. Misi

TqmiT: germanel jariskacs,

rogorc barbaros, velurs

ise aRwerdnen da britaneli

jariskaci moralurad mzad

iyo am saSineli Zalis mqone

mebrZolis gasanadgureblad,

radgan misgan Tavi daecva.

germaneli samxedro

propaganda britanel jariskacs

aRwerda, rogorc

pijakSi gamowyobil, arafrismaqnis,

uniaTo axalgazrdas

da germaneli jariskacebi

absoluturad araseriozulad

iyvnen ganwyobilni,

rac mavnebeli iyo. roca

isini pirispir Sexvdnen

britanel jariskacebs aRmoaCines,

rom saqme hqondaT

ara dondlo, aramed kargad

momzadebul profesionaleb-

Tan. es istoriuli magali-

Tia. Cvenc Tu vityviT, verafersac

ver gaayalbeben, aSS

CvenTanaa, yvelaferi mogvarebuliao,

mere saarCevno

ubanze sruli garRveva rom

gveqneba, amas veranairad ver

davicavT. piriqiT, unda

vTqvaT, rom saqme gvaqvs

kriminalur reJimTan, romelic

arCevnebSi minimum xmebis

60 procentis moparvas

apirebs da Tavi CaquCiT unda

gavuWeWyoT. es unda

iyos Cveni strategia.

_ isev gayalbebis Sem-

TxvevaSi quCaSi gamosvlis

gegmas davubrundebi. xom

SeiZleba saakaSvilma es mSvidobiani

aqcia okupanti

ruseTis mier saqarTvelos

winaaRmdeg provocirebul

qmedebad miiCnios, euTo da

sxva organizaciebi, fexebze

daikidos da qveyanas Tavad

Seuqmnas safrTxe?

_ ki, safrTxe arsebobs.

daRestnis operacia amis

pirveli magaliTia. ra Tqma

unda, saakaSvili amas gaake-

Tebs da gaukeTebia kidec

msgavsi _ ganmuxurSi, xur-

CaSi, axla lafanyurSi.

vinc aseT safrTxeebs ar

elodeba da mere ityvis _

ase rom ar momxdariyo ar-

Cevnebs movigebdiTo, aseTi

xalxi yvela vano merabiSvilis

Statiani TanamSromelia,

aseve, isinic, vinc

eubnebian biZina ivaniSvils,

rom yvelaferi kargadaa.

_ kaxa, yovelTvis ambobdi,

rom opozicia unda

gaerTiandes da erTiani frontiT

Seutios xelisuflebaso.

_ esec ivaniSvilis gadasawyvetia.

varaudebi maqvs,

Tu ratom ar xdeba es

gaerTianeba. minda giTxraT,

rom Tu gaerTianeba ar Sedgeba,

opoziciam SeiZleba

absoluturad yvela maJoritaruli

olqi waagos.

wagebasa da mogebas Soris,

ratomaa aseTi rTuli gadawyvetilebis

miReba, CemTvis

gaugebaria.

_ isic nu dagvaviwydeba,

rom saakaSvili 2013 wlamde

arsad midis.

_ parlamentSi umravlesobiT

mosvla, ra Tqma unda,

realurad Secvlis qveyanaSi

politikur klimats.

geTanxmebiT, es ar niSnavs,

rom amiT yvelaferi dasruldeba.

esaa reJimi, romelic

bolomde ibrZolebs,

Tumca parlamentSi umravlesobiT

mosvla, es am ar-

Cevnebze gadasawyveti amocanaa.

es Tu miiRweva, brZola

gamarjvebad CaiTvleba.

Tamar SveliZe

saerTo gazeTi

ratom wyevlis meufe

iosebi gurulebs?

ramdenime dRis win saagento

`iverionma~ informacia gaavrcela

_ Semoqmedelma episkoposma

meufe iosebma (kikvaZe) mrevls

qadagebisas mouwoda _ arCevnebSi

mxari nacmoZraobas dauWireT,

vinc ar Semoxazavs xuTians, imas

wyevla da SeCvenebao da wyevlis

iseTi korianteli dauyenebia, gurulebi

ambobdnen Turme _ wyevla

rogor ar gagvigonia, magram

aseTi saSineli _ araferio.

aseTi mimarTvebi da qadagebebi

ambionidan aRar gvikvirs, magram

amas Tu Semoqmedeli episkoposi

ikadrebda, aRar gvegona;

radgan, vinc gurulebis gaWirvebas,

siRaribe-siglaxakes icnobs,

amas namdvilad ar izamda; an ra

dasawyevli varT gurulebi, isedac

cotani varT?!

cxeli politikuri viTarebebis

dros guriis macxovreblebi

yovelTvis gamoirCeodnen si-

TamamiT, gamWriaxobiT, `revolucionerobiT~.

is ki ara, mewieTeli

(sofeli Coxatauris raion-

Si) ubralo glexis biWi,

SemdegSi saxelovani mwerali

Wola lomTaTiZe ruseTis dumis

wevri gamxdara, sisxls uSrobda

Turme imperialistebs da Sen, meufeo,

wyevla-krulviT wyvdiadisken

mierekebi gurulebs?

karga xani vyoymanobdi, meufe

iosebze meTqva is, rasac mTeli

guria laparakobs, magram iZulebuli

gavxdi, bolos da bolos

momeTxro is, rac aravisTvis

araa dRes dafaruli.

guriis meufe iosebi is

RvTismsaxuria, Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo,

romelic, rogorc meufis

naTesav-axloblebi amboben, Zalian

uyvars patriarqs da surs

mudmivad gverdiT hyavdes, magram

guria ar eTmoba Turme meufe

iosebs. guriisadmi siyvaruli

wyevlaSi rom gamoixata, dainaxeT,

magram gasul wels, ivlis-

Si, sinodis Sekrebaze religiis

kanonze xelis mowerac miumateT,

mwvalebeli gareginis da mixeil

saakaSvilis saameblad da meufis

portretis konturebi moxazuli

geqnebaT.

SarSandeli sinodis Sekrebis

Semdeg dro gavida, Seicvala politikuri

situacia saqarTvelo-

Si da axlaxan sinodis Sekrebaze

axali ganCineba gamoitanes.

mRvdelmsaxurTa gadawyvetileba

meufe andriam (gvazava) gorisa

da samTavisis mTavarepiskoposma

gaacno sazogadoebas _ samRvdelo

pirebs ekrZalebaT politikur

procesebSi CarTva.

sinodis wevrebis nawili, albaT,

emorCileba am gadawyvetilebas,

magram maTi umetesoba rom

urCia, xedavs amas mTeli saqarTvelo.

ara mxolod meufe iosebi,

meufe abraamic _ dasavleT evropis

mitropoliti sazRvargareT

qadagebs nacionalebis mxardaWeras,

meufe kalistrate ki, romelic

quTaTel-gaenaTeli mTavarepiskoposis

titulis garda, Cem-

Tvis jer dauzustebeli informaciiT,

nucubiZis platoze feSenebeluri

bar-sastumros mflobeli

romaa da Tavgadakluli nacional-episkoposi,

es mTelma saqarTvelom

icis da ecodineba zeciur

mxedrobasac.

meufe iosebi ufro Sors wasula,

mowodebebs aRar dasjerebia

da wyevlaze gadasula nacmoZraobis

da mixeil saakaSvilis

saameblad. gurul meufes, ramdenadac

vici, xatva emarjveba, Torem

meufe kalistratesaviT leqsebs

dauwerda saakaSvils, romelsac

gulis fancqaliT Sexvedria

da didi amalac dauxvedrebia

guriaSi axlandeli stumrobisas.

me Coxatauridan var da iq

uamravi nacnobi myavs. erTma megobarma

amas winaT gulistkiviliT

miTxra: TandaTan ivseba eklesia

mrevliT, magram maincadamainc

ver vendobiT meufe iosebs,

romelic cxvirsaxociviT icvlis

ucxour manqanebs da Tavisi epar-

qiis mRvdlebi lamis mojamagireebad

daisvaso. yvelaze metad iman

damwyvita guli, mama giorgis

(jibuti) mrevlis winaSe sastiki

Seuracxyofa rom miayena patara

mizezis gamoo.

rogorc aRmoCnda, sakuTari

ZviradRirebuli jipiT Zalian

xSirad xedaven gurulebi meufe

iosebs surebis tyeSi, xe-tyis

biznesebis sakurTxeblad, xolo

RorTafonSi (tyes ewodeba) Coxatauridan

5-6km-ze berebis keliebi

auSenebia, skebi gaumravlebiaT

da baxmaros da nabeRlavis

surnelovani yvavilebis neqtariT

gamdidrebul tonobiT Tafls mamasisxlad

yidis Turme guriis

eparqiis patroni. meufe iosebma,

romelmac sazogadoebaSi am bolo

xans mawyevari meufis saxeli

daimkvidra, imasac amboben, fui,

eSmaks, da, jixeTis dedaTa monasterSi

axalgazrda monazoni sayvarlad

hyavso.

guriaSi dRemde saarakod dadis

da zRaprad yvebian meufis

dedis 100-kacian dabadebis dReebze.

did pativs scems Turme meufe

dedas _ stilistebs da manikur-pedikurSicebs

qiraobs da

Sanelis da versaCes kabebSi gamowyobils

svams dResaswaulebsa

da iubileebze. meufis deda ukve

asakovani qali yofila da CoxataurSi

misi mezoblebi amboben,

saxlis saqmeebSi TiTo monazoni

yovelTvis exmareba da emorCileba

meufe iosebis dedaso, xolo

ojaxis kuTvnil aTasobiT heqtar

miwas berebi amuSavebeno.

rogorc guriaSi amboben, meufe

iosebs xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebTan

erTad wilebi hqonia

sxvadasxva biznesebSi da Zalian

axlo urTierTobebic hqonia

ama qveynis ZlierebTan.

mixeils saakaSvilis namestnikTan,

amJamad, nacionaluri moZraobis

maJoritari deputatobis

kandidatTan ramaz nikolaiSvil-

Tan SeTanxmebiT daSales Turme

sofel xidisTavSi kulturis

saxli da kaklis da wablis ZviradRirebuli

masala bolo

fiCxamde gauzidavs meufe iosebs.

soflelebs rom ukiTxavT, sad

migaqvT, isev eklesias movaxmaro-

To, meufes gajavrebuls gulze

mjiRi daurtyams: me mimaqvs da

ra gindaT, axla miTxariTo. xma

ver amouRiaT gurulebs, meufes

ver Sepasuxebian.

ase laparakoben kaTalikospatriarqis

ilia meoris `lubim-

SCik~ meufe iosebze gurulebi,

romlebsac am bolo dReebSi meufis

risxva wyevlad daatydaT

Tavs. meufes wyevla rom axdes,

celiT mosiarule miqel-gabriels

win da ukan mouwevs sirbili,

radgan, ramdenadac vici, mTeli

guria `qarTul-ocnebas~

uWers mxars da ar amboben, Torem

saakaSvili `xolerasaviT~

ejavreba TviT adgilobrivi xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebsac

ki.

Cems saTayvanebel guriaSi es

xalxuri leqsi yvelam icis, xolo

me kidev erTxel Sevaxseneb

Cvens erTgul mkiTxvels:

`dalocvili qriste RmerTi,

oqros taxtiT dabrZandeba,

xelSi saswori uWiravs,

codva-madli iwoneba~.

iranda kalandaZe

15


16 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

qveyanaSi mimdinare politikur

procesebze Tavis mosazrebas

gviziarebs saqarTvelos

mweralTa kavSiris Tavmjdomaris

moadgile, galaqtion tabi-

Zis premiis laureati, poeti

baRaTer arabuli

mwerali otia ioseliani

xSirad igonebda, gulmosulma

rogor hkiTxa erTxel wyaltuboSi,

mis saxlSi stumrad myof

saakaSvils:

_ ras uSvrebi saqarTvelos,

kvlav ukan, gamoqvabulisken migyavso?

_ ara, me wina gamoqvabulisken

mimyavso! _ viTom xumrobiT

upasuxia saakaSvils...

es ambavi imitom gavixsene,

rom eWvi ar aris, dRes qveynis

meTaurs saqarTvelo namdvilad

ukan, qvis xanisken da gamoqvabulisken

mihyavs... nacionalebisgan

qvebis esoden moxSirebuli

srola da maTi qceva amis maniSnebelia!..

rac ufro axlovdeba arCevnebi,

dRiTi dRe miT ufro mZafrdeba

da autaneli (SemaSfoTebeli)

xdeba saarCevno garemo.

mmarTveli partia yvelafers

akeTebs movlenebis eskalaciisTvis,

misi mTavari konkurentis

ukanono dasjisa da saarCevno kanonebis

monopolizaciisaTvis,

rac saqarTvelos da Cven sazogadoebas

sasikeTos arafers moutans

da qveyanas samoqalaqo dapirispirebas

uqadis... am yvelaferSi

ki pasuxismgebloba, upirvelesad,

xelisuflebas ekisreba,

romelic valdebulia, saarCevno

procesi civilur, demokratiul

kalapotSi moaqcios...

saqarTvelos xelisufleba,

mosaxleoba, partiebi erTxel

da samudamod unda mieCvion Tavisufali,

demokratiuli principebiT

arCevnebis Catarebas;

saarCevno vadis gasvlis Semdeg

aravisTvis ar unda iyos tragedia

xelisuflebidan wasvla da

ufleba-movaleobebis civilizebuli

formiT gamarjvebuli ZalisTvis

gadabareba, rogorc es

ucxoeTis demokratiul qveyneb-

Si xdeba. arc prezidentisTvis,

arc mTavrobisa da parlamentis-

Tvis xalxs samudamod ar miucia

ndobis mandati da misi

sxvisTvis gadacema arc tragedia

unda iyos vinmesTvis da arc

qveynis daqceva...

dRes ki ra xdeba? 9-10-wliani

mmarTvelobis Semdeg nacionalur

moZraobas gamouCnda

Rirseuli konkurenti biZina

ivaniSvilisa da misi koalicia

`qarTuli ocnebis~ saxiT da nacelita

agoniaSi, SokSi Cavarda!

nacionalebma igrZnes, rom

Zalauflebas kargaven da demokratiis,

metic, adamianuri ur-

TierTobebis yvela zRvars gadavidnen!

rogorc Cans, maT gadawyvetili

hqondaT (aqvT) xelisuflebaSi

samudamod yofna

da ivaniSvilis gamoCena didi

dartyma iyo...

biZina ivaniSvilis finansebis

da avtoritetis SiSiT nacionalebma

kontrolis palata-

Si auditis specialuri samsaxuri

Seqmnes, romelic mxolod

`qarTuli ocnebis~ represiebiT,

ukanono dajarimebebiT, dayada-

RebebiT aris dakavebuli, maSin,

rodesac am organizaciis umTavresi

movaleoba saxelmwifo biujetis

xarjvis kontroli unda

iyos!..

kontrolis palatis am samsaxurma,

faqtobrivad, gaugona-

saakaSvili saqarTvelos qvis

xanaSi dabrunebas upirebs...

ri jarimebi daawesa koaliciis

finansuri SemomwirvelebisTvis,

isini araviTar kanonier dasabu-

Tebas ar iziareben da yvelas,

mxolod `varaudebiT~, uklebliv

xuTmagi jarimiT sjian,

rac uprecedento movlenaa msoflio

qveynebis saarCevno cxovrebaSi,

maSin roca nacionalebis

Semomwirvelebs mwvane

Suqi aqvT anTebuli da maT partiul

salarosTan, viTom nebayofilobiT,

SemomwirvelTa gr-

Zeli rigebi dgas; quCebi, satransporto

saSualebebi gadafarulia

nacionalebis sareklamo

banerebiT, plakatebiT, maSin,

roca arc erTi opoziciuri

partiis baneri an plakati arsad

Cans! TiTqmis asevea televiziebSi,

radioSi, presaSi da

amas xelisufleba Tanabar

pirobebs eZaxis da xSirad

laparakobs Tavisufali saarCevno

garemos aucileblobaze,

amasTan, sxvebsac

`mouwodebs~ wesebis dasacavad,

rac ucxoelTaTvis

keTdeba, naxeT, ra demokratebi

varTo! magram sinamdvile

sxvaa: `qarTuli ocnebis~

TiTqmis yvela Sexvedra,

ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebis

mier provocirebuli

incidentiT, gawev-gamoweviT,

provokaciiT, qvebis

sroliT, cemiT, Jurnalistebis

SeuracxyofiT, gadam-

Rebi videoaparaturis damtvreviT,

ocnebis aqtivistebis

ukanono daWeriT mTavrdeba,

rac saarCevno process

aranormalurs xdis!

qvebis srolas kacobrioba

gamoqvabulidan gamosvlisa

da joguri cxovrebis Semdeg

gadaeCvia, magram saakaSvili,

samwuxarod, am qvebis sroliT,

rogorc ukve iTqva, saqarTvelos

kvlav qvebis xanaSi da gamoqvabulSi

dabrunebas upirebs!..

es kargad unda dainaxon

Cvenma dasavlelma da amerikelma

partniorebma, CvenTan movlenilma

saerTaSoriso damkvireblebma,

radganac saqarTveloSi

`demokratiis Suqura~ didi xania

Caqra da Cven kvlav xelis

cecebiT gviwevs politikur labirinTebSi

gzis gagneba!..

ormagi standartebiT arCevnebis

Catareba Cvens qveyanas verafer

sasikeTos moutans! mosaxleoba

polarizebulia da

amaSi, pirvel rigSi, xelisuflebaa

damnaSave! mixeil saakaSvili

dRes mxolod nacionaluri

moZraobis prezidentia _ is

gaemijna danarCen saqarTvelos,

man uaryo danarCeni

saqarTvelo; vinc mas

ar uWers mxars, yvela

mtrad, jojod, majlajunad,

garewrad, samSoblos

moRalated, warsulis

gadmonaSTad, bneleTis

mociqulad, ruseTis agentad

gamoacxada, rac saakaSvilis

didi tragediaa;

man sakuTari Tavi saqarTvelos

mosaxleobis umravlesobis

gareT daayena

da amiT TviTonve Tqva

uari mTliani saqarTvelos

prezidentobaze! man

dResaswaulebic ki: `didgoroba~,

`beSumoba~, `baxmarooba~,

mxolod nacionalur

dResaswaulebad gamoacxada da

sxvebs iq misvla aukrZala. `va-

Jaobac~ ki amis gamo meored Caatares.

rac Seexeba ruseTis agentobas:

am xelisuflebam Tavisi nebiT

37 strategiuli obieqti,

maT Soris gazi, wyali, deni, sakomunikacio

saSualebebi, wiaRiseuli

simdidreebi da a.S. gadasca

ruseTs! am dros sxvebisken

TiTis gaSvera gaRma Sedavebis

uazro politikaa da meti

araferi! xelisufleba xSirad

apelirebs ivaniSvilis gundis

Zvel kadrebze (?!), maSin rodesac

nacionalebis gundi, maTi

sadebutato sia, maJoritarebis

umravlesoba SevardnaZis droidan

kargad axsovs xalxs; eseni

arian Zveli komkavSirelebi,

moqkavSirelebi, raikomis mdivnebi,

deputatebi, ministrebi, da

a.S. romlebic 15-20 welia qar-

Tul politikaSi aqtiurad

trialeben sxvadasxva partieb-

Si; romeli erTi CamovTvaloT:

TviTon mixeil saakaSvili vin

iyo? vin iyo mixeil maWavariani?

xaTuna gogoriSvili? gigi

wereTeli? eldar kvernaZe? merab

samadaSvili? andac ruseTis

samTavrobo da uSiSroebis samsaxurebTan

axlobeli pirebi;

kaxa benduqiZe, grigol vaSaZe,

koba nayofia da sxvebi!..

saakaSvili opozicias _`qar-

Tul ocnebas~ eubneba: meti saqme

ara maqvs sadme wavide da Cemi

aSenebuli Tqven dasangrevad

CagabaroTo! vis eubneba amas saakaSvili?

biZina ivaniSvils?

romelmac, rodesac mas aravin

avaldebulebda da veravin daaZalebda

1 miliard 300 milioni

lari daxarja qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis

gansamtkiceblad,

jaris, policiis, sxvadasxva infrastruqturis

mSeneblobis

dasafinanseblad, skolebis, saavadmyofoebis,

gzebis, eklesiamonastrebis

mSeneblobisa da

restavraciisTvis, Cinovnikebis

xelfasebisTvis, gaWirvebulTa

da avadmyofTa daxmarebisTvis,

kulturis, xelovnebis, sazogadoebis

uxelfasod da upensiod

darCenili cnobili warmomadgenlebis

stipendiebisTvis!

maSin, rodesac xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebi, TviTon prezidenti

da misi ministrebi, saakaSvilis

naTesavebi, ojaxis

wevrebi, romlebsac xelisuflebaSi

mosvlamde araferi gaaCndaT,

uceb milionerebi gaxdnen!

saidan? zeciuri, RvTaebrivi

madli gadmovida maTze Tu ra

moxda? saxelmwifos, igive Cveni

biujetis, ucxouri grantebis

miTvisebiT, elitaruli korufciiT,

monopoliuri samsaxurebis

SeqmniT maT saqarTveloSi

sakuTari saxelmwifo

Seqmnes, sadac mxolod TviTon

grZnoben zRaprulad Tavs! maT

sakuTari komunizmi aiSenes saukeTeso

xelfasebiT, 100-aTasiani

premiebiT; samsaxuris ZviradRirebuli

manqanebiT da didi

qonebiT! maT daaviwydaT, rom

Cvens qveyanaSi dRiTi dRe mravldebian

nagvis urnebSi Cayude-

buli, uxelfaso, umuSevari,

upensio adamianebi, damcirebulni,

Seuracxyofilni; daaviwydaT,

rom arsebobs, xelisufal-

Tagan mitovebuli, ganwiruli

saqarTveloc, romelic maT mxolod

arCevnebis dros agondebaT

da 20-30-larian vauCerebiT, dapirebebiT,

erTTviani dasaqmebebiT,

kvlavac motyuebiT apireben

xalxis moqrTamvas, sabolood

ki _ arCevnebis gayalbebas!.. aqedanve

Sesaswavlia xelisuflebasTan

Sekruli, misi dakveTiT

(dafinansebiT) momuSave socialuri

kvlevis samsaxurebis saqmianoba!

isini gegmazomierad, winaswar

atareben saeWvo kvlevebs;

partiebis reitingebis Sesaxeb

amkvidreben azrs, TiTqosda

nacionalur moZraobas orjer

meti mxardamWeri hyavs,

vidre qarTul ocnebas da sxva

opoziciur Zalebs, rac mosaxleobis

zombirebis, amgvari

mcdari azris damkvidrebis

mcdelobaa arCevnebis gasayalbeblad!

amis Sesaxeb aqedanve

unda gafrTxildnen es organizaciebi

da maTi saTao ofisebis

warmomadgenlebic an moxdes

obieqturobiT cnobili sxva, neitraluri

socialuri kvlevis

samsaxurebis mowvevac; am sakiTxSi

opozicia valdebulia,

erToblivi ZalisxmeviT, saswrafod

imoqmedos, Torem mere, rodesac

xelisufleba maTi kvlevis,

Sedegebis Sesabamis cifrebs

dadebs arCevnebze, aRaraferi

eSveleba! endiais da airais

kvlevebi saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis

dakveTiT da aq nacionalebis

arasamTavroebis, ar-

Cevnebis gamyalbebeli, igive

TarxniSvilis colis da sxvaTa

pirdapiri monawileobiT mimdinareobs,

rac gansakuTrebuli

eWvis sababs iZleva! asevea egzitpolebis

sakiTxic! wina ar-

CevnebSi egzitpolebis gayalbebisaTvis

gia nodia da Temur

iakobaSvili ministris TanamdebobebiT

daajildoves!

_ aseTi warmatebuli saqar-

Tvelo arasodes yofilao! _

xSirad moismenT prezidentisgan

da misi uRirsebo, fuls da karieras

daxarbebuli, saakaSvilis

monebad qceuli nacionalebisgan!

magram yvelam icis: xelisuflebis

ugunurobiT teritoriebis

ocprocentdakargul

saqarTvelos warmatebuli

ver daerqmeva!.. ucxoeTSi

milionnaxevar moqalaqegadaxvewil,

Svilebdakargul

qveyanas warmatebuli ver

daerqmeva!.. soflis meurneobamoSlil

da mrewvelobadaqceul,biznesdayaCaRebul,

umuSevrobiT gawamebul

saqarTvelos warmatebuli

ver daerqmeva!.. elitarul

korufciaSi Caflul

da gaRatakebul mosaxleobis

patrons, uxelfaso,

upensio, umuSevar, uimedo

da uperspeqtivo adamianebis

samSoblos warmatebuli ver

daerqmeva!..

saqarTvelos mosaxleobam

swori daskvna da arCevani

unda gaakeTos!

erT mxaresaa: 9-10-wliani

ukanono, usamarTlo,

ugunuri `moRvaweobiT~, saqarTvelos

teritoriebis dakargviT,

mkvlelobebiT, daWerebiT, dayadaRebebiT,

represiebiT, sakuTari

keTildReobisa da gamdidrebisaTvis

dauokebeli ltolviT,

xalxis xarjze auracxeli qonebis

dagrovebis surviliT

cnobili xelisufleba, da meore

mxares dgas biZina ivaniSvili,

didi qvelmoqmedi, samebis

taZris amSenebeli, misi erovnuli,

patriotuli, sazogadoebrivi

da saxelmwifoebrivi saqmianobiT

cnobili mamuliSvili,

romlis fiqri saqarTvelos momavalze,

aRorZinebaze, TiToeuli

qarTvelis ukeTes cxovrebaze

ocnebis axdeniskenaa mimar-

Tuli!..

rogorc Cveni didi winapari

ityoda: `Sen gijobs aw romeli(Ta)?!~


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`Cveni qveyana pataraa,

magram rTuli _ aseTi

rTuli saxelmwifos

marTva Zalian Znelia~

vesaubrebiT kinodokumentalists,baton

gia Wubabrias

_ batono gia, axla

winasaarCevno periodia,

rac TavisTavad

garkveul daZabulobas,

amave dros Sinagan

mobilizacias

gulisxmobs. did politikas

didi pretenziebi

aqvs. Tqveni azriT,

SerCa saqarTvelos

diplomatiuri

potenciali?

_ iseTi rTuli saxelmwifos

marTva, rogorc saqarTveloa, Zalian

Znelia. samwuxarod, winaT saqarTvelo

politikuri moRvaweebis importiori

iyo. ruseTis pirveli dumis

Tavmjdomare gaxldaT karlo CxeiZe.

deidaCemisgan maxsovs, yveboda mis

Sesaxeb. sityviT gamodioda, roca

Svilis sikvdili Seatyobines. warbi

ar Seuxria, ise daamTavra gamosvla

da mere mixeda Tavis mwuxarebas. ramdenadac

maxsovs, mere parizSi Tavi

moikla. aseve ruseTis pirvel duma-

Si gaxldaT kaki wereTeli, romelic,

sxvaTa Soris, saCxeris raionidan

gaxldaT, Worvilas pirdapir

rom sofelia _ gorisa, iqedan.

brwyinvale politikosi da oratori

gaxldaT es pirovneba. da kidev bevri

sxva adamiani SeiZleba CamogveTvala,

vinc qveynis farglebs gareT ake-

Tebda Tavis saqmes, inteleqtualuri

importi xdeboda.

_ iqneb raRac sistemis Secvlacaa

saWiro?

_ erTi ram unda gvaxsovdes: Tu

demokratiul qveyanaSi gvinda cxovreba,

prezidentebi unda icvlebodnen.

brwyinvale sistemaa amerikis SeerTebul

StatebSi _ oTx weliwad-

Si erTxelaa arCevnebi. aseTi cvalebadoba

aris demokratiis maCvenebeli.

aravis ar unda hqondes imis ufleba,

dajdes prezidentis savarZelSi da

fexi ar moicvalos.

es farTo masStabis sakiTxebi

gaxlavT da amaze minda yuradReba gamaxvildes,

Torem Ciora ras gvelaparakeba

ekranidan, naklebad mainteresebs.

pirvel rigSi, pirovnebebi, moqalaqeebi

unda iyvnen: daxvewilebi,

imitom, rom qveyanas xalxi qmnis.

Tundac aviRoT Cveni xandaxan uazro,

tolerantoba. 1997 wels germaniaSi,

dortmundtSi filmis premiera mqonda.

kargad maxsovs germanelebi rogori

SeSinebulebi iyvnen _ 6 milioni

Turqia ukve CvenTan Semosuli

da 30 meCeTi aqvT aSenebulio. germanelebs,

amxela ers eSinia asimilaciis,

Cven sami milioni varT. amdeni

xalxi moskovSi erT kvartalSi

cxovrobs. qarTuli miwa zRaprulia,

modis yvela, visac ar ezareba, Cven

xom yvelasTvis kargi maspinZlebi

varT. aman mogvitana teritoriuli

problemebi da kidev ra moxdeba,

RmerTma uwyis. tolerantobasac Tavisi

sazRvrebi aqvs.

_ CvenTvis umjobesi iqneba erTmaneTi

ufro gviyvardes, vidre sxvebi...

_ meCvidmete saukuneSi italieli

misioneri piedro de la vale werda:

qarTvelebi ise rom ebrZodnen mters,

rogorc erTmaneTs ebrZvian, maTi qveyana

didi xnis win iqneboda Tavisufalio.

RmerTma mogvca stumarTmoy-

vareobis didi niWi,

Tbili buneba, magram

gvaqvs mankiereba,

orpiroba, orguloba.

merve saukuneSi

ioane sabanisZem Tqva

qarTvelebze: `irxevian

viT lerwamni

qarTagan ZlierTa~.

meTvramete saukune-

Si hegelma Tqva,

qarTvelebi meryevi

sulis xalxiao.

dRevandel dRes 21e

saukuneSi yoveldRe

vxvdebiT amis

magaliTebs. medroveebiTaa

qveyana savse. ilia WavWavaZe

mokles qarTvelebma, amaze uaresi ra

unda eqnaT. puSkini da lermontovic

mokles ruseTSi, magram iq sul sxva

situacia da mizezi iyo. me ar meguleba

qveyana, sadac eris mama moeklaT,

miT umetes aseT patara qveyana-

Si.

_ pataraa qveyana da esec bevr

problemas qmnis. rogor fiqrobT, kidev

didxans viqnebiT ruseTsa da amerikaze

damokidebuli?

_ saqarTvelo mTeli xmeleTis

nuli mTeli ori measedi Tu iqneba.

Zalian pataraa, magram amave dros Zalian

adgilzea. panamis arxiviTaa,

masze gadis gza CrdiloeTidan samxreTisaken.

amitom sWirdeba ruseTsac,

amerikasac da sparseTsac. stalinma

Tqva, yvelaze naklebi boroteba

Cveni ruseTTan SeerTeba iyoo.

jobia, aravisze iyo damokidebuli,

magram roca aseTi patara qveyana xar,

jobs, urTierToba daabalanso did

mezobel saxelmwifoebTan. ruseTma

amdeni xnis manZilze erTi jariskacic

ki ar gaiyvana okupirebuli teritoriebidan

da arc aravin atexavs

oms Cveni gulisTvis.

_ ra gamodis, ar viyaviT mzad damoukideblobisTvis?

_ diax. mTavari problema TiToeul

CvenTaganSia. franc kafka ambobda:

inteligenciis mTavar amocanas

Seadgens erovnul mankierebaTa Cveneba

da gawmenda. saqarTvelos TiTqmis

aRar hyavs namdvili inteligencia. me

dokumentalisti var da Cven, reJisorebi,

pirvel rigSi, adamianTmcodneebi

varT. bevr rames sxvanairad vukvirdebi.

vuyureb televizias, guli

mereva, ra terminologiiT, ra qarTuliT

saubroben. rogori cinizmiT

laparakoben biZina ivaniSvilze, rom

mas qveynis ukan, sabWoeTSi dabruneba

unda da kidev amgvar sisuleleebs.

es aris Tavxeduri tyuili,

WuWyi da me mikvirs im xalxis, vinc

Tavisi nebiT exveva am sibinZureSi.

Tamuna qadagiZe

mgzavroba rom mogiwevs

xolme saqarTvelos

qalaqebSi, raionebsa da

soflebSi, naxav, yvela

transportze, TvalSi mosaxvedr

adgilebSi sul

yvelgan, didi formatebiT

aRbeWdilia e.w. `nacionaluri

moZraoba~ da

maTi saarCevno nomeri

`5~, okupirebuli aqvT

mTeli saarCevno sivrce.

`nacionalebi~ aseTi aranacionaluri

Zalisxmieri

meTodebiT moqmedeben, axla

rom SeinarCunon xelisufleba,

mere xom Ti-

Tis ganZrevas marTlac

veravin gabedavs, rogorc

daimuqra saakaSvili.

SevafasoT maTi saar-

Cevno sloganebi.

1. dasaqmebao, magram

riT? sakvirao bazrobebT?

droebiT mSeneblobebiT?

ucxoeli stumrebis

momsaxurebiT? aravi-

Tari sabaziso mimarTulebebis

SemoTavazeba mosaxleobis

myari, mudmivi

garantirebuli dasaqmebisaTvis.

2. jandacva yvelaso.

janacvis ufleba axlac

yvelas aqvs, magram ris

safasurad? dazRvevebio,

_ gaiZaxian. dazRvevebi

isev xalxis gadasaxadebiT

Seqmnili biujetis

xarjze ar keTdeba?

3. Zlieri sofelio

kargi slogania, oRond

baton biZina ivaniSvilisagan

gadamRerebuli. magram

Zlieri sofeli Zlier

soflis meurneobas

eyrdnoba. Zlieri soflis

meurneoba qarTuli miwebis

ucxoelebze gayidvi-

Ta da qarTvelTa ayriT

am miwebidan unda Seiqmnas?

Tanac soflis meurneobis

ganviTarebis araviTari

kompleqsuri

programa.

4. meti sargebeli

xalxs _ pirze akeriaT

`nacionalebs~. ra sargebeli

moutanes xalxs?

gaRatakeba da ucxoeTSi

gadaxvewa? kvlav bundovani

dapirebebi, kvlav

bundovani dapirebebi,

kvlav rebusebi.

5. xolo 1000 lariani

vauCeri _ es aris

amomrCevlis pirdapiri

mosyidva. erTi sityviT,

yvelaferi im standartul

wreze brunavs, romelzedac

wina arCevnebis

periodSi brunavda `nacmoZraoba~.

kritika gvesmis,

vTqvaT, romelime pi-

rovnebebisagan romelime

pirovnebaze, magram iseTi

cilismwamebluri antireklama,

rac biZina ivaniSvilis

winaaRmdeg mimdinareobs.

ver Tavsdeba

zneobis raime kategoria-

Si. amoraluria es antireklama.

politikur

brZolasac xom gaaCnia

morali? magram xalxma

icis da sjera, rom biZina

ivaniSvilis programa

Seqmnis swored saqarTvelos

swrafi ganviTarebis

SesaZleblobas, safuZvels,

xolo `nacionalebisa~

kvlav ukusvlisken

waiyvans qveyanas.

batoni biZina ivaniSvili

TanamSromlobda `nacionalebTan~

im imediT,

rom qveynis ganviTarebas

Seuwyobda xels. magram

ver gaaTeTra Savi yorani

_ xelisufleba.

Tavad rom mova

xelisuflebaSi da

Tavad iqneba sakuTari

finansebis ganmkargavi,

realurad

ar moaxmars xalxs?

rasakvirvelia, moaxmars

da mere rogor!

ai, aseTi kaci

RmerTma mogvivlina

qarTvelebs yofnaaryofnis

Jams.

da am kacis uer-

Tgulesi Tanamebr-

Zolia batoni irakli

alasania. cxov-

saerTo gazeTi

rebis mokle periodSi man

gamoiara didi sabrZolo

gza, gamoibrZmeda politikurad,

icis xalxis

problemebi da maTi gadawyvetis

gzebic. Sinaganad

ramxela amaRlebuli

unda iyo, rom daZlio piradi

gancdebi qveynis interesebisaTvis

da gamar-

To Serigebis dialogi im

mxaresTan, romlis SeiaraRebulma

formirebebma

mama dagixvrites. ramdenime

Sexvedris Semdeg man

didi ndoba moipova afxazebisa

da rom ara Cveni

dRevandeli xelisufle-

arCevani gvmarTebs

ucdomeli

bis arakoreqtuloba, Serigebis

gzebi ixsneboda,

saakaSvilsa da mis garemocvas

Cven ar vendobiT

da afxazebi da osebi miendobian?

gamoricxulia.

es unda gvaxsovdes yvelas

da gansakuTrebiT

devnilebs.

afxazeTisaken gza samegreloze

gadis. aq deputatad

gvWirdeba kaci,

romelsac afxazeTSi pativiscemiT

miiReben da

endobian. amitom yvela

zugdidelma da arazugdidelma,

yvela devnilma,

yvelam, visac saqarTvelos

gamTlianeba surs,

xma unda misces naRd qar-

Tvels irakli alasanias!

senakSi gansaxlebulo

devnilebo, mTeli raioni

unda amouyenoT gverdSi

afxazeTis mkvidrs, cnobil

mwerals da sazogado

moRvawes guram odi-

Saras, raTa speqtakli

`zRva, romelic Soria~

soxumSi daedgaT, afxazebTan

erTad vuyuroT da

davgmoT samaradJamod

Tavsmoxveuli undobloba.

devnilTa saerTo

krebis saxeliT

saqarTvelos uxucesTa

darbazis

aRmasrulebeli mdivani

p-p `Cveni afxazeTis~

Tavmjdomare

roland niJaraZe

17


18 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

au, magrad vicine...

es ra gavige, xalxooo...nacionalebis

siis #10, pirze

rZeSeumSrali baRana,

vinme marina Tu mariam sajaia

- nacionalebis cnobili

aqtivistis nazi aronias

Svili yofila... xom

gaxsovT es matrakveca qali?

axla Svili ravari

matrakveca da mazakvali

iqneba, xom warmogidgeniaT...

nazi aronias Svilis

gulisTvis SecvaleT kanoni,

Tqve farCakebo?

guSin mixeil saakaSvili

iyo Casuli

samtrediaSi...

miusamZimra im da-

Rupuli eqimis ojaxs, romelic

specoperacias Seewira...

dedam miatira - Sen

momikali Svili... saakaSvili

mainc mivida am qalTan

da gadaexvia... ra Tqma unda,

televiziebma es aCvenes,

anu gadaxvevis momenti...

gamovida saakaSvili

ojaxidan... dRes samtrediis

gamgebels uflebamosileba

SeuCeres... daibares

(vin daibara gamgebeli da

ra gvaria Tavad gamgebeli,

es imaT gaarkvion, vinc infos

moiparavs, rac araer-

Txel moxda) da uTxres...

Tavad miSam kidev calke

gaurCia saqme - rogor ver

moaxerxe, Se boTe da uvargiso

(misi sityvebia), ojaxi

Semzadebuli dagexvedrebinao..

ise, ra mainteresebs

da, senatori

maq qeini ris safuZvelze

svams

kiTxvebs da arkvevs aris

Tu ara esa Tu is pirovne-

ba ruseTTan kavSirSi. senatori

saqarTvelos moqalaqea

Tu am arCevnebSi saku-

Tari partiiT gamodis?

ramdeni? rodemde?

ratom? es aris

warmatebuli demokratia?

sadac

adamianebs yovelgvari gasamarTlebis

gareSe, adgilze

xvreten.. norvegielma

teroristma, andres

breivikma 77 adamianis sicocxle

imsxverpla, magram

breiviki aravis dauxvretia

adgilze da dResac

“Tavs kargad grZnobs”. am

xalxis azriT

biWebs ki miakereT sityvierad

“teroristebi” da

CacxrileT.. saqarTvelos-

Tan SedarebiT, amxela qveyanas

_ britaneTs 2 teroristi

ar hyavs da saqarTvelos

xelisuflebam 3-milionian

qveyanaSi bolo

wlebia 300-mde `teroristi”

aRmoaCina da Cacxrila,

adgilze. qveyanaSi sadac

sikvdiliT dasja gauqmebulia

xalxs adgilze

xvreten.. raRatom gaauqmeT

sikvdiliT dasja Tuki

adamianis sicocxles ase

xelaRebiT, erT wamSi

xelyofT??? TviTmfrinavis

biWebs komunistebma bolo

sityva mainc aTqmevines.

SvebiT amovisunTqe!

goka, Cveni gokuna

gamogvesarCla

“despoti biZinasagan”

daCagrul maswebs...apa,

rava egona “meocnebe SurismaZiebels?!

magis dasasjeli

maswebi iqeT moikiTxos.

ra uflebiT ganacxada:”yvela

xmis gamyalbebels

davsjio, maT Soris

maswavleblebsaco...”aba, bi-

Wo, SegveSinda...

Cveni sxeuli aRar gvtkiva, Zmebo,

axla Tqveni sxeuli gvtkiva...

mirdadi: kargadd Tqvi, SSen, benoon, zeddmetadd

bevri yuri gaqvs, amitom ar gesmis,

magram erTi yuri rom gqonodda, romelic

moismendda, dda gaigebdda, aRar ddagWirddebodda

mtkiceba.

gasul kviras saqarTvelo

lopotas xeobaSi umowyalod

Caxocil 14 axalgazrda meomars

dastiroda da rogorc

qisti dedebi icemdnen gulSi

mjiRs, simwriT ikvnetdnen

tuCs da mdumare glovaSi aqsovdnen

gulis balRams, ise

iyo yvela qarTveli deda...

auRelveblad ver Sevxede

daxocilTa gvamebs teleekranze

da maSinve mivxvdi: qistebis

sikvdilma ufro damisera

guli da qarTvelebisa _

imdenad ara...

yvelam viciT, ra

ubedureba gaiara CeCneTma

bolo wlebSi,

magram saqarTvelom

ra ubedurebac naxa,

TviTon varT amis

momswre. afxazeTis

omidan dawyebuli,

samoqalaqo omiT, av-

RaneTis, erayis omeb-

Si uazrod Caxocili

qarTveli biWebis cinkis

kuboebiT Camosveneba

Cveulebrivi

ambavi gaxda, cxinvalis

omSi rom Cveni

Zmebis sisxli da Zvali

iyo erTmaneTSi

aTqvefili, amasac gavusworeT

Cveni aTasgzis

ubedurebis mxilveli

Tvali, nacmoZraobam,

am bandam,

sisxlsmowyurebulma

xrovam rom zogi

quCaSi Caxoca da zogi

sadRac tye-RreSi,

rogorc sanadirod

gamzadebulma mdeva-

rma, aravinaa amis gamkiTxavi.

Cven aRar gvikvirs

qarTvelebis

xocva da Jleta arc

qarTvelebisgan, arc

afxazisgan, arc osisgan,

arc rusisgan,

arc avRanelisgan, erayelisgan

da TviT im

didebuli amerikelisganac.

megobrobaze, urTierTgatanaze,

vaJkacobaze, namusis Senaxvaze

ucxoeTSi filmebs

iReben, radgan aseTi mcnebebi

iq TiTqmis gamqralia.

CvenTan rac darCa, isic

undaT waSalon da Zveli kavkasiuri

fic-vercxloba mtrobiT

da gautanlobiT Secvalon.

amaze ocnebobda yovelT-

vis mteri da amitomac iyo

marTlmorwmune vainaxebSi musulmanoba

rom CaTeses. aq

rom mTel kavkasia marTlmadidebeli

qristiani yofiliyo,

xom warmogidgeniaT, ra gulis

xeTqva eqneboda zogierTebs.

aTeuli wlebia Crdilokavkasielebi

TavianTi samSoblosTvis

(samSoblo xom ganyenebuli

mcneba araa?) ibrZvian,

sisxls Rvrian, qalebic

iaraRasxmuli omoben. daingra

CeCneTi, ganadgurda grozno,

gadaixvewnen CeCnebi, inguSebi,

yabardoelebi da Tan waiRes

guliT samSoblo.

marto zviad gamsaxurdia

ki ara, ilia

WavWavaZec ambobda,

Cveni saSveli araa

Crdilokavkasielebis

gareSeo. zviad

benooni: undda moviddes saiddumlo mgzavri,

raTa ganikiTxos msoflio dda Cven, kiddobnis

mgzavrni, ddavjddebiT masTan erTadd samsjavroze.

SSevuddgeT samzaddiss gankiTxvis ddRisaTvis?!

mixail naimi

gamsaxurdias `saer-

To kavkasiuri saxlic~

ki undoda Seeqmna.

mas CeCnebi dResac

kavkasiis prezidents

eZaxian.

ki, magram, zogierTi metyvis,

umizezod araferi xdeba,

raimeSi isinic iqnebodnen damnaSaveo.

es araa gamarTleba.

araviTari politika ar

wydeba adamianebis gareSe, xolo

adamiani, romelic `politikas~

qmnis, yvelaze Zvirfasia

TviT am `politikaSi~...

amboben, rom, savaraudod,

`qarTul politikas~ Seewirnen

es biWebi, romlebmac uari

Tqves ivaniSvilis likvidaciazeo.

ivaniSvilis likvidacia,

madloba RmerTs, ar moxda,

magram maSin gamecineba mwared,

aseT daujerebel ambavs Tu

ityvis es xelisufleba garkveuli

drois Semdeg: gamoZiebam

aCvena, rom es axalgazrdebi

ivaniSvilis mokavSireebi yofilan

da qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis

dangreva udodaTo...

am biWebis sisxli daaRr-

Cobs xelisuflebas gankiTxvis

dRes. es aris bolo wve-

Ti nacionaluri mTavrobis

codva-madlis fialaSi...

yvela qarTvels,

yvelas stkiva dRes

qistebis e.i. CeCnebis

tkivili. Cveni sxeuli,

dafleTilia da

aRar gvtkiva, Zmebo,

axla Tqveni sxeuli

gvtkiva...

iranda kalandaZe


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

politikaSi wasvlamde

ioseb juRaSvili Ramis 2 saaTze

Cadis saguramoSi. qalbaton

olRa guramiSvils (ilia

WavWavaZis meuRles) aRviZebinebs

ukve daZinebul

ilias da masTan saubarSi

mTel Rames atarebs. mxolod

amis Semdeg midis ioseb ju-

RaSvili politikaSi. iliasgan

unda moesmina stalins im

“saerTo niadagis Teoriis”

Sesaxebac, romelic ilia

WavWavaZes “aRmaSeneblis saqarTvelos”

modelze hqonda

Seqmnili. arsSi, aRmaSeneblis

Zlieri saqarTvelos

Semnas, did sivrceze gadaWimuli

mravalerovani qveynis

unitarul (erTi kanonis ZaliT

marTvas), adgilze ki

(soflebisa da regioniebis

doneze), qarTuli Temisa da

xodabunebis principiT -

TviTmarTvelobas gulisxmobda.

(es ebrauli kibucebis is

tipiuri modelia, romlis

mniSvnelobazec qarTuli

soflis aRorZinebisTvis

patriarqma araerTxel isaubra).

sadac mTis Temis

principiT, yvelaferi sauke-

Teso erTad grovdeba da Semdeg

Tanabrad nawildeba mosaxleobaze.

saubedurod, bevrma

qarTvelma arc ilias

“saerTo niadagis Teoriis”

da arc satalinis Sesaxeb

bevri araferi icis. farisevelTa

memkvidreebi, romlebic

msoflio mediis, gamomcemlobebisa

da saerTaSoriso

saionformacio korporaciebis

mflobelni arian,

“filtrSi” atareben da

cxrilaven yvelafers, rac

gonierma adamianma ar unda

gaiziaros. amisTvis ki gaunaTleblobis

danergvaa saWiro.

aki, nergaven kidec. adamianebma

“sxvisi tviniT, sxvisi

WkuiTa da gonebiT” unda

iazrovnon. mxolod teelekranidan

reklamirebuli wamlebi

unda dailon, raTa winaparTa

mier gamocdili da

dadebiTi Sedegis momcemi sa-

SualebebiT ar ganikurnon.

amiT adamianebis ricxvi dedamiwaze

unda Semcirdes. dar-

Ces mxolod zombirebuli da

marTvadi raodenoba, romlebic

farisevelTa mona-mosamsaxured

morCilad imuSavebs.

mikroCipebiT marTvadi gaxdeba

da nebismier dros, rogorc

“uvargis teqnikas” sa-

Wiroebisamebr “gamorTaven”.

Tu kacobrioba gons ar movida,

“feradovani revoluciebis”

dasawyisi _ “wiTlebis

proletaruli revolucia”

(romelic dResac grZeldeba),

male “wyvliTa krulviT

(daCipuli sazogadoebiT)

daRdasmuli mSieri monebis

qveyanisa da msoflios saxes

miiRebs”! sadac CipebCadgmuli

“msoflio moqalaqeebi

moklaven dedas, moklaven mamas

_ Tuki partia ubrZanebT

amas”! dRevandeli msoflios

telemayurebelsa da mkiTxvelis

umetesobas ki mxolod

is unda miewodos, rac mis

mxedvelobaSi, cnobierebasa

da mexsierebaSi unda CaibeWdos.

es is “sasurveli informaciaa”,

rasac farisevelTa

memkvidreebi “sabWoe-

Tis” drosac da dResac, mediisa

da presis saSualebiT

dozirebulad da damaxinjebulad

awvdian sazogadoebas.

dakvirvebuli adamiani aRmoa-

Cenda, rom plakatebsa Tu

suraTebze eSmaki umetesad

wiTeli feris, xelSi samkapiT

(samkbiliani “kverTxiT”)

gamoisaxeba. wiTeli qristes

sisxls ganasaxierebs. sami

ki uflismieri samebis simboloa.

amitomaa “xuTosani wi-

Teli eSmakunebis” Tavyrilobebsa

da SekrebebSi wiTeli

feris aseTi siWarbec. wiTeli

feri agresiulobiTac gamoirCeva

da adamianis cnobiers

Trgunavs. wiTeli feri

gamoiyeneba saroskipoebsa da

“bordelebSic”, sadac sodom-gomoriseuli

orgiebi

ewyoba. qalaq ierusalimis

droSa, (iudevelTa miwad

cnobili adgili, sadac farisevlebma

qriste jvars avnes),

erTi erTze imeorebs

nacionalebis droSas, magram

narinjisferia. nacionalebma

is alisfrad (sisxlisfrad)

Secvales. aRmaSeneblisTvis

didgoris brZolisas naCuqari

“jvarosnebis droSac”

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

wiTeli iyo, magram ara ise-

Ti sisxlisferi, rogoric

dRevaneli saxelmwifo dro-

Saa. maSin is jer kidev Sindisferi

iyo. “nacionaluri

moZraobis gariJraJzec”,

Yyvela Senobasa da dawesebulbaze

“jvarosanTa xuTjvriani

droSis” aRmarTva da

sisxlisfrad misi Secvla

hitleris mier svastikiani

droSebis aRmarTviT im qveynis

okupacias niSavda. eSmakeuli

(sisixlisferi) droSis

saxelmwifo droSad gamocxadeba

erTgvari gzavnili iyo

“farisevel-masonTa msoflio

saZmosadmi”, rom nacionalebi

RvTismSoblis wilxvedr saqarTveloSi

sisxlis gubeebis

dasayeneblad da qristesmieri

eris Tavisuflebisken

swrafvis sisxlSi CasaxSobad

emzadebodnen. RvTismSob-

lis wilxvedri saqarTvelos

mimarT am ganzraxvasac farisevelni

xan ruseTSi, xanac

dasavleTSi Canergili TavianTi

agentebis meSveobiT

axorcilebdnen. saqarTveloc

da yvela qarTvelic, sanam

srul simarTles ar gaigebs

politikaSi ioseb satalinis

wasvlis Sesaxeb, manamde iqneba

is zogisTvis tirani, zogisTvis

“boroti genia”, zogisTvis

kidev iseTi provneba,

rogoradac mas masonur-globalisturi

samyaro warmoaCens

dRemde. yvelaze didi

da WeSmarit informaciasac

swored farisevelni floben

qarTveli iosebis Sesaxeb.

maTTvis yvelaze did safr-

Txes, (irkveva, rom) maSinac

da axlac qarTveli warmoadgenda!

amis dasamalad amaxinjebdnen

istoriul faqtebs

aTeisti bolSevikebic da amaxinjeben

maTi memkvidre globalisti

masonebic viTom

qarTveli nacionalebis xeliT.

marTlmadideblurma

samyarom SesaniSnavad icis

simarTle stalinis pirovnebaze.

amisTvis gamoucxades

marTmadideblur samyaros

globalistma-masonebma sastiki

omic. “demokratiis sa-

xeliT” gaanadgures serbeTis,

saberZneTis, rumineTis,

bulgareTis eklesiebi. rigSi

saqarTvelosa da ruseTis

marTlmadidebluri eklesiebi

dgas! WeSmariti Rirebulebebic

da Tavisuflebac, mTel

msoflioSi swored amisTvis

Caanacvles e.w. “demokratiulma

da liberalurma Rirebulebebma”.

stalinis Temis arapopularobis

miuxedavad, masze

wiTeli eSmakunebi

simarTlis Tqma aucilebelia!

gansakuTrebiT aucilebelia

qarTvelebisgan, romlis

Rirseul Svilsac ioseb

stalini warmoadgenda. ara im

vai-qarTvelebisgan, vinc

grantebiTa da farisevelTa

dafinansebebiT SekveTil

statiebsa da publikaciebs

aqveyneben. vinc masze srul

informacias ar flobs da

mxolod “bolSevikuri istoriis

saxelmZRvaneloebidan”

icis “stalinis kultisa da

tiraniis” Sesaxeb. arc im

ucxoeli viTom mwerlebisgan,

vinc sakuTar istorias

ar icnobs wesierad da sxvebis

“biografiul cxovrebaze”

bestselerebs qmnis. aramed

simarTlis dadgena, pirvel

rigSi, saqarTvelos da

qarTvelebis valia! somxebs

stalinis msgavsi fugura

rom hyolodaT, mTel msoflios

gadasWamdnen tvins.

(kidev kargi, jerjerobiT

stalinic armenad ar gamoucxadebiaT

sxvebis msgavsad)

es is bumberazi figuraa, romelic

mTel msoflios azanzarebda

da Cans dResac azanzarebs,

radgan masTan brZolas

misi sikvdilidan amdeni

xnis Semdegac ar eSvebian.

saerTo gazeTi

romlis winaSe qeds ixridnen

iseTi didi politikosebic

ki, rogoric uinston CerCili

da ruzvelti iyo. romlis

saxelTanac dakavSirebulia

dedamiwis meeqvsedis fa-

Sizmisgan gaTavisufleba. pirovneba,

romelmac wina saukunis

dasawyisSi antimarTlmadideblur-globalisturi

procesis _ “msoflio proletaruli

revoluciis dawyebas”

wertili dausva. berebisgan

politikaSi gagzavnili

adamiani, romelmac peterburgSi

CasvlisTanave iq

arsebuli 28 masonuri loJa

daxura da sastiki brZola

gamoucxada “mxecis msaxurT”.

im droisTvis 20-iani

wlebisTvis stalins, mxolod

9 marTlmadidebel adamianze

SeeZlo dayrdnoba,

radgan mis irgvliv da politikaSi

myofi danarCeni Semadgenlobafarisevel-TalmudistTa

warmomadgenlebiT

iyo dakompleqtebuli. brZolis

dasawyebad ki SigniT Canergva

da “qajeTis cixis”

Signidan dangreva iyo saWiro.

am faqtis dasturad cota

xnis win mosmenil erT pateriks

gavixseneb: “ erT

RvTismosav da ucodvel bers

Turme eSmaki gadaekida. xan

aqedan miudga, xan _ iqedan

da verafriT acduna. erT

dResac keliaSi misul bers

Turme eSmaki sawolze damjdari

daxvedria. eSmakma bers

uTxra: ” mTxove, rac ginda

da Segisruleb. mxolod amis

Semdeg daganebeb Tavso”. berma

eSmaks misi mxarze Sesma

da ierusalimis wminda adgilebis

monaxuleba sTxova,

razec eSmakma uari ver Tqva.”

paterikis morali aseTia: beri

borotebas Seajda zed da

mas keTili saqme akeTebina!

stalinic swored im borotebas

ebrZoda, Slida da angrevda

Signidan, romeli borotebac

dRes gvinadgurebs

erovnul identurobas, qar-

Tul suls, marTlmadideblur

mrwamss. xelisuflebis

qveda eSelonebSi mokalaTebuli

mravalricxovani farisevlebi

ki Tavisi saqmis ke-

Tebas_ inteligenciisa da

maTlmadideblebis xocvas agrZelebdnen.

revoluciis win

peterburgSi leninTan erTad

daxuruli vagoniT Casul

uzarmazar farisevel masaTan

sabrZolvelad ki mtkice xeli,

udreki foladiseburi

xasiaTi da pirovnulis (xandaxan

sakuTaris, qarTulis

droebiT gawirvac) ki iyo

saWiro, radgan vinc (qaldeveli

huri abraamiviT) umTavresis,

ideisa da mrwamsis gadasarCenad

`sakuTars~ sasworze

ar debs, _ is mizans

ver aRwevs.

nawyveti gamosacemi

wignidan

`qristes rjulisTvis

mebrZoli mxedari~.

baia amaSukeli

19


20 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

rogorc cnobili gaxda,

lopotas xeobaSi Catarebul

sisxlian speoperaciasTan dakav-

SirebiT, CeCnuri mxaris iniciativiT

Seiqqmna incidentis Semswavleli

komisia, romelsac

emigraciaSi myofi CeCneTis yofili

kulturis ministri axmed

zakaevi uxelmZRRvanelebs. man saqqarTvelos

xelisuflebas TanamSromlobas

ukve SesTavaza da

aRRniSna, rom Tu qqarTuli mxare

urTierTTanamSromlobaze uars

ityvis, maT gaaCniaT sakmarisi

resursi, rom daadginon realurad

ra moxda.

aRRniSnul sakiTxebTan dakav-

SirebiT ``saerTo gazeTs~ saer-

TaSoriso organizacia ``kavkasiel

xalxTa konfederaciis~ Tavmjdomare

zaal kasreliSvili

esaubra.

- axmed zakaevma lopotas

sisxliani incidentis garSemo

gamoZieba daiwyo da saqarTvelos

xelisuflebs erToblivi

komisiis Seqmnas sTavazobs, magram,

vfiqrob, nacxelisufleba

masTan ar iTanamSromlebs, anu

informacias ar miawvdis, Tu mainc

daTanxmda, maSin drois gayvanis

taqtikas daadgeba, rom,

ase vTqvaT, tkivili gaanelos

da daZabuloba gaaneitralos.

TviTon zakaevi kavkasiel xalxebSi

(rogorc kavkasiaSi, ise

mis farglebs gareT) cudi reputaciiT

ar sargeblobs, magram

mas verc CeCneTis kanonieri xelisuflebissamarTalmemkvidred

moiazreben, radgan emigraciaSi

masze bevrad ufro avtoritetuli

CeCnebi cxovroben.

isini CeCneTis saxelisuflebo

ierarqiaSi rangiTac da tituliTac

ufro maRla idgnen, vidre

zakaevi, romelsac kulturis

ministris Tanamdeboba ekava.

miuxedavad amisa, Cvens organizacias

es arCevani Zalze moewona.

es saqme CeCnurma mxarem

unda gamoiZios, Tu simarTles

ityvian xom kargi, Tu ara da

Crdilokavkasielebma magaTve

mosTxovon pasuxi. Cveni qveynis

interesebidan gamomdinare, Zalze

kargia, CeCnurma mxarem rom

iTava es gamoZieba, Tumca isic

unda iTqvas, rom zakaevTan dakavSirebiT

bevri eWvi arsebobs.

- ras gulisxmobT?

- zakaevsa da Cvens xelisuflebas

Soris boris berezovski

dgas, romelic Cveni xelisuflebis

warmomadgenelTa megobaria.

telekompania `pikic~ (pirveli

kavkasiuri) Tavis droze

man daafinansa. axla vis xelSia

es telekompania, ar vici, magram

misi saqmianoba mxolod berezovskis

interesebs SeiZleba emsaxurebodes.

kavkasielebis in-

teresebs rom ar emsaxureba,

amas nebismier dros davamtkiceb

Ria eTeriT gamarTul debateb-

Si. Cveni organizaciis or

wevrs _ CeCensa da inguSs, romlebic

kavkasiaSi ar cxovroben,

daukavSirdnen da am komisiaSi

monawileoba SesTavazes. `kavkasiel

xalxTa konfederaciis~

gamgeoba kolegialuri organoa,

erTian gadawyvetilebas vRebulobT,

maqsimalurad vcdilobT

yvelas interesi da Rirseba daculi

iyos, amitomac davTanxmdi,

rom maT muSaobaSi monawileoba

miiRon, oRond komisiis

SemadgenlobaSi ki ar Sevidnen,

mxolod am incidentis gamoZiebamde

daexmaron, radgan Cven am

xalxTan urTierToba manamdec

ar gvqonia.

vfiqrobT, zakaevi simarTlis

damalvas ver gabedavs, 11

adamianis mkvlels xels ver daafarebs,

Tu daafarebs, maSin Zalian

cudad daamTavrebs. is Seecdeba

yvelaferi obieqturad

gamoiZios im martivi mizezis

gamo, rom Sansi gauCnda aRidginos

CeCnebis TvalSi Selaxuli

reputacia. mas reputacia maSin

Seelaxa, roca doku umarovTan

dakavSirebiT evropul medias

mZime interviuebi misca, Tanac

igi Ria dialogSi Sevida ramzan

kadirovTan, maTi

Sexvedris Taobaze.

marTalia, es Sexvedra

ar Sedga da

arc dialogi gagr-

Zelda, magram am

ori mizezis gamo

zakaevis avtoriteti

kiTxvis niSnis

qveS dadga. Tu zakaevi

am incidents

obieqturad ar gamoiZiebs,

Cven da

kidev ramdenime

arasamTavrobo organizacias

gvaqvs

imis meqanizmebi,

rom situacia obieqturadvakontroloT.

Cven am etapze

ar gvinda konkretuli

pirebis vinaoba davasaxeloT

da maT braldeba wavuyenoT,

es zakaevma gaakeTos. Tu

misi komisia simarTles ityvis,

daveTanxmebiT, Tu simarTles

damalaven da saqarTvelos xelisuflebis

wisqvilze daasxamen

wyals, saqarTvelos mosaxleobas

pirobas vaZlev, rom komisiis

mTeli Semadgenloba seriozulad

daisjeba da es ar

iqneba marto Cveni organizaciis

iniciativa, kavkasiis yvela eris

warmomadgeneli maT sakadris

pasuxs gascems. rac Seexeba Tavad

zakaevs, mas Zalze mkacrad

mosTxoven pasuxs CeCnebi.

- Tqven savaraudo damnaSaveebis

vinaoba ukve gcodniaT. iqneb

is mainc gviTxraT, konkretulad,

raSi miuZRviT maT brali?

- Cveni saqmianobidan gamomdinare,

cxadia, bevr informacias

vflobT. rac Seexeba am saqmes,

Cveni informaciiT, ori

versia ganixileba. pirveli - aw

ganadgurebuli jgufis wevrebi,

eqvsi Tvis win saqarTveloSi

Camoiyvana erovnebiT CeCenma pirovnebam,

romelTanac saqarTvelos

xelisuflebis mxridan Su-

amavlobda erTi qarTveli. meore

versiis mixedviT, es xalxi

didi xania (daaxloebiT ori welia)

midi-modian saqarTveloSi,

xvdebian xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs,

TanamSromloben,

oRond ra Temasa da sakiTxze

ver getyviT, Tumca namdvilad

TanamSromlobdnen. xsenebul Ce-

Censa da qarTvels, savaraudod,

kidev erTi CeCeni da qarTveli

ematebian. swored es meore qar-

Tveli yofila, rogorc ityvian,

pirveli kvalis gamWreli. is

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis saxeliT

Cavida evropaSi erT-erT

CeCenTan erTad da iq mcxovreb

Crdilokavkasielebs partnioroba

SesTavaza. maTi vinaoba viciT,

magram Segnebulad ar vasaxelebT,

sjobs, zakaevma da misma

garemocvam daasaxelos, mere

rame rom ar dagvabralon. pirvelad

Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT

vambob, rom Zalze seriozuli

mediasaSualebebis warmomadgenlebma

mTxoves, iqneb rekomendacia

gagviwioT evropaSi

mcxovreb Tqveni organizaciis

wevrebTan, rom maTTan CavideT

da maTi meSveobiT aviRoT interviu

axmed zakaevisgano. erTi

martivi mizezis gamo vuTxari

uari, Cvens Jurnalistebs iq

ruseTis interesi rom daxvdeT,

mere Zalian gagviWirdeba imis

axsna, rom Cven arafer SuaSi

varT. dameTanxmebiT, rom ruse-

Tis politikuri xelmZRvanelobasa

da specsamsaxurebs Zalze

didi interesi eqnebaT sisxliani

incidentisa da zakaevis komisiis

mimarT. amitom mets aRarafers

vityviT, dae, es Wirisuflebma,

CeCnebma gaakeTon. Cven

mere davafiqsirebT Cvens pozicias,

vin ambobs simarTles da

vin _ ara. es aris erTaderTi

gamosavali, rom saqarTvelos

mimarT eWvi da risxva movxsnaT.

- ambobT, zakaevsa da saqar-

Tvelos xelisuflebas Soris

boris berezoski dgaso. ra kav-

Siri aqvs zakaevs masTan?

- zakaevs politikuri TavSesafari

Tavisi kavSirebis meSveobiT

berezovskim gaukeTa. es

ukanaskneli, mas Semdeg, rac

ruseTidan gaagdes, ufunqciod

iyo darCenili. is miliarderia,

magram arc erT strategiul

obieqts ar flobs, am, ase

vTqvaT, sazogadoebrivad aqtiur

adamians, aranairi gavlena

ar aqvs ruseTze. mas ruseTSi

gavlenebis mosapoveblad radikaluri

opozicioneris imijis

mopoveba sWirdeboda, amitomac

Cado Tavisi antiputinuri ganwyoba

cecxlmokidebul Crdilo

kavkasiaSi. berezovskim ifiqra,

rom dasavleTSi garkveuli

wreebisTvis da Tundac ucxouri

specsamsaxurebisTvis am TemiT

ufro saintereso gaxdeboda.

amitomac daiaxlova axmed

zakaevi, romelsac manamde icnobda,

anu elcinis mmarTvelobisas,

roca berezovski uSiSroebis

sabWos mdivani iyo da biz-

zakaevsa da Cvens

xelisuflebas Soris

berezovski dgas...

ness ikeTebda CeCneTis omze.

Semdgom amas daemata masa da zakaevs

Soris pirovnuli urTierTobebi,

romelmac saqarTveloSi

gadmoinacvla. saqarTveloSi

zakaevis mimarT arsebul-

ma kargma ganwyobam da berezovskis

saqarTvelos xelisuflebasTan

siaxlovem, raRac etapze

berezovskis Seuqmna imiji, rom

is kavkasiaSi gavleniani moTama-

Sea, viTarebas flobs, marTalia,

garkveuli segmentisas,

magram mainc. garda amisa, berezovskis

axlandeli meuRle Ce-

Cenia. misma colis Zmebmac, romlebic

ukrainasa da evropaSi

warmatebuli biznesmenebi arian,

Seuqmnes imiji, rom is aris

adamiani, romelsac postsabWour

sivrceSi, kerZod, kavkasiaSi

angariSi unda gavuwioT da vimegobroT,

radgan mas iq procesebSi

monawileobis miReba SeuZlia.

- modiT, lopotas sisxlian

specoperacias davubrundeT,

romlis garSemoc uamravi kiTxvebi

kvlavac arsebobs. xelisuflebam

gvamcno 11 mebrZolia

moklulio. Svidis vinaoba gvamcnes

da musulmanuri wesiT daikrZalebiano.

sad aris danarCeni

oTxis cxedari, isini saer-

Tod Tu arsebobdnen bunebaSi?

- Svidive daRupuli saqarTvelos

moqalaqea, aqedan oTxi

aq daibada, samma ki 90-ian

wlebSi miiRo saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba.

am Svidi adamianidan

erTi avstriidan Camoiyvanes, meore

londonidan, mesame ki fineTidan.

Tu risTvis Camoiyvanes,

yvelam kargad vnaxeT. sad aris

danarCeni oTxi cxedari, ver

getyviT. saerTod, tyuili am

xelisuflebis cxovrebis wesi

da urTierTobis formaa. rogorc

Cans, es oTxi marTlac ar

arsebobs, Torem imas mainc

ityodnen, identifikacia mimdinareobso.

amaT samxedro specoperaciis

imxela speqtakli dadges,

rom vfiqrob, mere SercxvaT

imis aRiareba, Svid kacs

rom ebrZodnen.

* * *

televiziiT gavrcelebul

kadrebSi daRupulebis Tanasoflelebi

acxadebdnen, rom cxedrebi

RamiT, Cumad, yovelgvari

ganbanvisa da religiuri ritualis

gareSe daasaflaves, ramac

profesional (yofil) policielebSi

didi eWvi gaaCina, iyvnen

ki isini SeiaraRebuli Setakebisas

mokluli (am versiam eqspertebSic

didi eWvi gamiwvia,

11 meomris brZolis dros ase

erTbaSad mokvla gamoricxuliao

– m.s.). isini sxva meTodiT,

Tundac sawamlaviT xom ar

daxoces da mere es specoperacia

gaiTamaSeso. xom naxeT

cxedrebs eqsperti ki ara, sasuliero

pirebic ar miakares,

romlebic musulmanuri wesiT

apatiosneben cxedars maT eWvi

rom ar gasCenodaTo. am versias

rom aqvs arsebobis ufleba, zaal

kasreliSvilic eTanxmeba.

- gavrcelebul versiebze

ras gvetyviT, am jgufs erT-er-

Ti qarTveli parlamentari gasamrjelos

fasad TurqeTSi gadayvanas

Sepirda da `gadaagdoo~?

isic iTqva, rom maT daRestanSi

marTlac undodaT gadasvla,

iqidan siriaSi rom wasuliyvnen

amboxebulebis dasaxmareblad.

- rac Seexeba maT TurqeTSi

gadasvlas, SeiZleba jgufis

romelime wevrma, ubralod, saxlSi

Tqva, TurqeTSi mivdivaro.

vici, romel parlamentarzecaa

saubari. absurdia imis mtkiceba,

daRestnidan unda gadasuliyvnen

siriaSio. erTaderTi TurqeTidan

Tu moxvdeba adamiani siriaSi

uproblemod. Tu imis Tqma

undaT, rom azerbaijanis gavliT

wavidodneno, jer erTi

azerbaijani maT ar gaatarebda

da meorec, azerbaijanidanac

ver moxvdebodnen TurqeTSi ase

Cacmulebi da aRWurvilebi. am

versiis avtorma, vfiqrob, saer-

Tod ar icis geografia da ruka

TvaliT ar aqvs nanaxi.

manana suxiSvili


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

msoflio presis mixedviT

bolo wlebis saqarTvelo-

Si lamis normad iqca regularulad

laparaki imis Sesaxeb,

rom ruseTis armia saqarTveloSi

SemoWras gegmavs _ TiTqosda

`im saqmis bolomde misayvanad,

rac 2008 wlis agvistoSi

ver moxerxda~: anu

Secvalos ara marto arsebuli

xelisufleba, aramed sagareopolitikuri

da saSinao politikac

ki. aseTi sifrTxile agvistos

agresiis Semdeg gasagebia,

rasac emateba qarTvelTa

Tandayolili miswrafeba, Se-

Txzas versiebi da yvelgan

SeTqmulebebi eZebos.

qarTvelebi Rrmad arian

darwmunebuli, rom maTi damoukideblobisa

da erTgvari usafrTxoebis

mTavar garants warmoadgens

amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi, romelic saqarTvelos

dauTmobs ruseTs rame ufro

didi _ erayis, avRaneTis, CrdiloeT

koreis, libiis, axla ki

ukve siriisa da iranis sanacvlod.

maT uWirT gageba imisa,

rom zesaxelmwifoebi iSviaTad

vaWroben TavianTi mokavSireebiT

_ maT mxolod is SeuZliaT,

daTmon gavlena im qveyneb-

Si, romlebic TanamSromlobis

aSkara survils ar gamoxataven.

es iSviaTad, magram mainc xdeba.

Tu didi saxelmwifo xelTaTmaniviT

icvlis partnior qveynebs,

is am tituls didxans ver

SeinarCunebs. gamovTqvaT imedi

imisa, rom saqarTvelo didi

qveynebis TamaSebSi sajildao

qva ar gaxdeba. Tumca arc is

aris gamoricxuli, ruseTma kidev

scados saqarTveloSi SeWra,

iseve rogorc veravin gamoricxavda

2008 wlis agvistos

omis dawyebas.

saqarTvelo yuradRebiT

adevnebs Tvals kavkasia-2012is

swavlebebs, romelic saqar-

TveloSi 1-li oqtombris saparlamento

arCevnebs emTxveva

da amitomac Cndeba ruseTis

xelaxali agresiis SiSic.

ruseTis saokupacio jarebis

afxazeTidan da cxinvalis

regionidan gamoyvana, TavianT

saxlebSi devnilTa swrafad

dabruneba mniSvnelovanwilad

damokidebulia imaze, Tu rogori

damokidebuleba aqvs ruseTs

CrdiloeT kavkasiis mimarT

_ sadac, bolos da bolos,

unda damyardes stabiluroba,

samarTlianoba da

mSvidoba. amitomac saqarTveloSi

yovelTvis interesiT

akvirdebian mezobel regionSi

mimdinare procesebs, magram iq

arsebuli mdgomareoba jerjerobiT

damSvidebis sababs ar

iZleva. metic _ garkveuli Zalebi

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi imdenad

Zabaven viTarebas, rom

SesaZloa, igi nebismier dros

farTomasStabian omSi gadaizardos.

amis fonze gakvirvebas da

SeSfoTebas iwvevs teritoriuli

dava ori vainaxuri respublikis

_ inguSeTisa da CeCneTis

meTaurebs Soris, rasac

ra xdeba sinamdvileSi?

zogierT qarTvel eqsperts

mcdari warmodgena aqvs ruse-

Tis xelisuflebaze _ maTi azriT,

axlandeli ruseTi Tavneba

saxelmwifoa, romelsac ar

gaaCnia aranairi wesebi da valdebulebebi

vinmes winaSe.

ruseTi marTlac cdilobs,

sagareo politikaSi iTamaSos

_ Taviseburad interpretirebuli,

damaxinjebuli, mcdarad

interpretirebuli, magram mainc

saerTaSoriso wesebiT.

raSi vlindeba es?

upirvelesad imaSi, rom

moskovi iseTs arafers ake-

Tebs, rasac paralels ver mouZebni

dasavleTSi.

magaliTad _ ratom gaaWianura

omi 2008 wlis agvistomde,

ratom ar SeiWra saqarTveloSi

maSinve da angariSi ar

gauwia aravis, ratom cdilobda

sababis moZebnas, dros kargavda

qarTuli soflebis dabombvaze,

Tuki putini da medvedevi

saerTaSoriso donis

Tavneba politikosebi arian?

rogorc ukve aRvniSneT,

ruseTi cdilobs mibaZos dasavleTs.

Tqven aRiareT kosovo

_ Cven vaRiarebT afxazeTsa

da samxreT oseTs, Tqven CaatareT

operacia serbiaSi iZulebiTi

mSvidobis dasamyareblad

_ Cven mSvidobis iZulebas

afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTSi

vcdilobT...

dasavleTs kosovo rom ar

eRiarebina, ruseTi araviTar

SemTxvevaSi ar gaakeTebda imaves

afxazeTisa da samxreT

oseTis mimarT, Tundac saakaSvils

putini liliputinad asjer

moexseniebina pirdapir

eTerSi. agvistos dasawyisSi

provokaciebi swored imas emsaxureboda,

rom saqarTvelos

sapasuxo cecxli gaexsna da

swored is TamaSi gaeCaRebina,

rac nato-m serbiaSi gaiTamaSa.

amitomac gulubryvilod

Cans liberal eqspertTa mosazreba,

TiTqos SeiZleboda am

omis Tavidan acileba _ amisT-

vis sakmariso iqneboda dabombvaze

ar epasuxaT. omi gardauvali

iyo _ ara imitom, rom

putini ganawyenebulia saakaSvilze,

aramed imitom, rom dasavleTTan

angariSebi gasasworebeli

iyo, Tanac _ Zalian

swrafad. amas ruseTi ver gaeqceoda.

axla teritoriul sakiTxebSi

angariSi sayaimoa _

1:1.

amitomac ar sWirdeba ruseTs

axali provokaciebi afxazeTis

an samxreT oseTis teritoriaze.

axla iq iseTi si-

Cumea, rac bolo wlebis ganmavlobaSi

arasodes yofila.

Tumca arsebobs sxva Tama-

Sic, sadac angariSia 1:0. es

libiaa.

ai, aq ki ruseTs namdvilad

gauCnda SesaZlebloba, gamoiyenos

Tavisi fantazia da SemoqmedebiTi

energia.

saamisod ki viTareba libiis

msgavsad unda ganviTardes

_ anu saqarTvelos mTavrobam

gaanadguros opozicia, cecxli

gauxsnas mSvidobian moqalaqeebs...

aseT dros mamaci 58-e armia

saqarTvelos mosaxleobis

dasaxmareblad gaemarTeba da

angariSi gaxdeba 1:1.

oqtombris dasawyisSi saqarTvelos

mZime da rTuli

arCevnebi elis _ ueWvelia,

ruseTis armia yuradRebiT

Tvals miadevnebs im movlenebs,

rac xmis micemas mohyveba. operacia

kavkasia-2012-s masTan

uSualo kavSiri ara aqvs. saqme

sxvagvarad aris _ Tu miecema

sababi, ruseTi mas gamoi-

saerTo gazeTi

saRi azri agresiis winaaRmdeg

ruseTi saerTaSoriso wesebis imitacias axdens.

vidre sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelosken ar gaixedavs

provokaciis elferi dahkravs.

am dReebSi groznom pretenziebi

gamoTqva mezobel respublikaSi

malgobekis raionis nawilsa

da mTlianad sunJenis

raionze _ es teritoriebi istoriulad

CeCneTis sakuTreba

iyo (1992 wlamde, vidre CeCneT-inguSeTi

or respublikad

gaiyofoda) da isini kanonier

mflobelebs unda daubrundes.

mxolod amis Semdeg unda gaivlos

respublikebs Soris

sademarkacio sazRvario. Tu

CeCneT-inguSeTis sazRvris sadavo

sakiTxi adgilze ver

mogvardeba, CeCneTis xelisufleba

federaluri centris

CarTvas gegmavs.

CeCnebma pretenziebis Sesaxeb

gancxadeba gaakeTes da saqmis

praqtikul ganxorcielebasac

mohkides xeli _ inguSeT-

Tan sazRvris dasadgenad Seqmnes

samTavrobo komisia, romelSic

parlamentis wevrebisa

da ministrebis garda cnobili

istorikosebi da sazogado

moRvaweebic arian. am komisiis

pirveli sxdoma ukve gaimarTa

seqtembris dasawyisSi.

CeCneTis xelmZRvanelobas,

romelmac dudaevis `damnaSave

reJimis~ xelmowerili dokumentebis

gauqmeba ganizraxa, mezobeli

Zmuri respublikis da-

Sinebas sayveduroben _ adre

problemebs uxucesebi da religiuri

liderebi uxmaurod agvarebdnen,

axla ki moskovis mxardaWeriT

arian gulmocemulni.

inguSeTSi CeCneTis xelisuflebis

gamomwvev qcevas

provokaciad afaseben. Tanaxmani

arian, monawileoba miiRon

sazRvris dadgenaSi, magram kategoriulad

ewinaaRmdegebian

mis Secvlas _ amas seriozuli

konfliqti mohyvebao.

axla, roca mTlianad

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi, gansakuTrebiT

ki mezobel daRestanSi

eTnikuri da religiuri

mZafri brZolebia gaCaRebuli;

yenebs: kavkasia-2012-s an daukavSirebs,

an ara.

ruseTi saerTaSoriso wesebis

imitacias axdens. vidre

sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelosken

ar gaixedavs. sasxletze

TiTis gamokvris roli SeiZleba

Seasrulos nacionalebsa

da biZinistebs Soris gamar-

Tulma namdvilma omma.

yvelaferi mainc xelisuflebis

xelSia _ man unda Caataros

normaluri arCevnebi da

metismeti xmebi ar miiweros,

zomiereba daicvan da sixarbe

ar gamoiCinon.

oriode sityva `ruseTsa da

somxeTs Soris derefnis~ Teoriaze,

Tuki dasavleTi irans

oms gamoucxadebs. es varianti

ruseTs saqarTveloSi SeWris

saSualebas miscems da mas damatebiTi

sababi ar dasWirdeba.

Teoriulad es SesaZlebelia _

Tu dasavleTi iranSi SeiWreba,

ruseTi, sapasuxod, saqarTvelos

Seutevs da angariSi

kvlav 1:1 gaxdeba.

realurad, irans ukve aTi

welia emuqrebian da bolos da

bolos, unda gavacnobieroT _

dasavleTSi veravin gabedavs

80-milionian iranSi SeWras.

maqsimumi, rac SeiZleba moxdes,

es aris aviadartymebi

birTvul obieqtebze, Tumca

esec nakleb savaraudoa.

qarTvel sazogadoebas gaaCnia

yvelanairi Sansi, Tavidan

aicilos dapirispireba ruseT-

Tan. amitomac qarTvelebma unda

gamoiCinon odnavi goniereba mainc.

inosmi.ru/sngbaltia

vis sWirdeba axali konfliqti vainax Zmebs Soris

roca inguSeTs uamravi

ltolvili hyavs da mezobel

osebTan mougvarebeli teritoriuli

problemebi aqvs,

groznos wamowyebuli teritoriuli

kamaTi kavkasiologebs

inguSebisTvis zurgSi

maxvilis Cacemad miaCniaT.

ar aris gamoricxuli, moskovisgan

frTaSesxmul kadirovs

mada gaezardos, isargeblos

daRestanSi Seqmnili

mdgomareobiT da pretenzia

ganacxados groznos sazRvrispira

hasaviurtis raionzec,

romelic 1921 wlamde

CeCneTs ekuTvnoda. kavkasiis

sakiTxTa eqspertebi acnobiereben,

rom dapirispirebis axali

keris Seqmna mtris wisqvilze

wylis dasxmis tolfasi

iqneba da regionSi stabilurobisa

da mSvidobis damyareba

kidev ufro gadavaddeba.

mimoxilva moamzada

g.WavWavaZem.

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22 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

Zvaluka, anu fexis didi TiTebis

deformacia erT-erTi yvelaze gavrcelebuli

orTopediuli problemaa,

romelic umTavresad mSvenieri sqesis

warmomadgenlebs awuxebT.

mamakacebSi didi TiTebis deformacia

metad iSviaTad viTardeba da

umeteswilad terfis mikrotravmebi-

Taa gamowveuli.

qalebSi mas ramdenime mizezi

aqvs. maT Soris mTavaria terfis didi

TiTebis myesTa Tandayolili defeqti,

romelic qalbatonebs memkvidreobiT

gadaecemaT dedisgan.

Zvalukas medicinaSi hilus vagusi

ewodeba. igi banaluri brtyelterfianobiT

iwyeba.

mogexsenebaT, adamianis terfi

kunTebis, Zvlebis, myesebisa da iogebisgan

Sedgeba. rodesac adamians

brtyelterfianobis gamo ganivi Ta-

Ris defeqti uviTardeba, misi didi

TiTis falangis gverdiT erTmaneTis

paralelurad mdebare falangebi da

maTTan erTad TiTebic maraos msgavsad

iwyebs gaSlas. es moZraoba arc

ise negatiuri iqneboda, danarCen Ti-

Tebs cerac rom ayoloda, magram igi

am dros sxvebis msgavsad maraoseburad

ki ar iSleba, piriqiT ter-

axali saswavlo wlis dawyebis

kvaldakval, pedikulozTan

(datilianeba) erTad,

gansakuTrebul aqtualobas

iZens paraziti WiebiT gamowveuli

daavadebebi.

ra daavadebaa enterobiozi?

rogor moviqce, rom Svili

ar damiavaddes? Tu mainc

dainficirda, tradiciuli

preparatebiT vumkurnalo Tu

aratradiciul saSualebebs

vendo? _ es is kiTxvebia,

romlebze pasuxic bevri mSoblisTvis

aris saintereso.

enterobiozi yvelaze gavrcelebuli

helminTozia (parazituli

WiiT gamowveuli daavadeba),

mas wvrili, patara,

TeTri feris maxvilboloebiani

Wia _ enterobiusi iwvevs,

romelic nawlavSi moxvedris

Semdeg kvercxs debs da mravldeba.

parazitis kvercxi sakmaod

mdgradi da gamZlea garemos

araxelsayreli faqtorebisa

Tu madezinficirebeli

saSualebebis mimarT. garemoSi

paraziti 25 dRe cocxlobs,

kanalizaciis milebSi ki 7-dan

21 dRemde inarCunebs gamravlebis

unars.

vin SeiZleba daavaddes

enterobioziT?

daavadebisgan saimedo da

gansakuTrebuli dacvis saSualeba

ar arsebobs _ SesaZloa,

daavaddes nebismieri adamiani,

nebismier asakSi, Tumca daavadebulTa

umravlesoba 3-idan

10-14-wlamde asakis bavSvebi

arian, yvelaze metad ki es daavadeba

4-6 wlis bavSvebSi

aRiniSneba.

gansakuTrebiT avadoben:

1. bavSvebi, romelTa dedebsac

orsulobis meore

trimestrSi toqsikozi aReniSnebodaT;

`girCebi~ terfze

fis SigniT ixreba; Sedegad _ saxsari

formas icvlis, didi TiTis falangi

nawilobriv gamodis saxsridan

da sagrZnoblad idrikeba, es ki

iseTi Sesaxedia, TiTqos cera TiTis

fuZesTan patara girCi gamoizarda

an axali patara Zvali ganviTarda,

swored amitom miiRo terfis aseTma

deformaciam xalxSi girCis saxelwodeba.

2. xelovnuri sakvebiT gamozrdilebi;

3. xangrZlivad da xSirad

moavadeni;

4. patarebi dabali socialuri

statusis mqone ojaxebidan;

5. im sabavSvo baRebisa Tu

skolebis aRsazrdelebi, romelTa

Senobebic ar akmayofilebs

dadgenil normativebs.

daavadebis wyaro mxolod

adamiania, amitom mcdaria mosazreba,

rom enterobioziT

bavSvi SesaZloa Sinaurma

cxovelma daainficiros.

rodis unda

gamovikvlioT bavSvi

daavadebis ZiriTadi simptomebia:

muclis tkivili, xSiri

gulisreva da Rebineba, kuWnawlavis

traqtis anTebiTi

daavadebebi, advilad gadaRla,

gaRizianebadoba, mSfoTvare

Zili, ZilSi kbilebis kraWuni,

alergiuli reaqciebi: gamonayari

da perianaluri (ukana

tanis) qavili, gogonebSi

xSiria vulvovaginiti _ sa-

Sos lorwovani garsis anTeba,

Sardgamomyofi sistemis infeqciebi.

am niSnebis didi nawili

sxva saxis helminTozebsac

axasiaTebs, magram enterobiozisTvis

gansakuTrebiT ori

ram aris damaxasiaTebeli _

perianaluri qavili da muclis

tkivili.

perianaluri qavili xSirad

daavadebis erTaderTi

simptomic kia, rac mdedri parazitis

ukana tanis naoWebSi

gamosvliTa da iq kvercxis

debiTaa gamowveuli. qavili

yvelaze metad RamiT, 11 saa-

Tidan 1-l saaTamde Zlierdeba.

swored am periodSi eZlevaT

parazitebs maqsimaluri

Sansi usafrTxod kvercxdebi-

sa, romlebic dilisaTvis ukve

aswreben momwifebas.

mSoblebi xSirad aRniSnaven,

rom mkurnalobis miuxedavad,

maTi patara RamiT ukanatans

mainc iqavebs. es nu SegaSinebT,

namkurnalev bavSveb-

Si qavili refleqsuri xasia-

Tisaa, romelic garkveuli periodis

Semdeg TavisiT gaivlis.

RamiT dadebuli kvercxidan

dilisaTvis ukve axali

parazitebi iCekebian, romle-

bic xSirad ganavalTan erTad

gamoiyofa. parazitebis gamoyofa

gansakuTrebiT Zlierdeba

sxeulis temperaturis matebisas,

didi raodenobiT

citrusis wvenis an mineraluri

wylis dalevisas.

muclis tkivili _ aseve

xSiri simptomia mwvave tkivili,

romelic lokalizebulia

Wipis areSi; nawlavis kedelze

parazitebis miwebebis Sedegad

lorwovani garsi Riziandeba

da tkivili, wesisamebr,

Wamisas iwyeba, Tumca, iSvia-

terfi CaquCs

daemsgavsa

terfs da gansakuTrebiT

ki mis cera

TiTs mudmivi kontaqti

aqvs fexsacmel-

Tan, ris gamoc is gamudmebiT

iWyliteba

da travmirdeba, ziandeba

misi kani, iyvlifeba

da deformirebuli

adgili kudev

ufro metad ziandeba.

bolos ki yalibdeba

saxsris anTeba

da dasawyisSi `girCis~ adgilas ukve

Zvlovan-xrtilovani wanazardi

warmoiqmneba.

droTa ganmavlobaSi deformirebuli

didi TiTi zians ayenebs mezobel

TiTebsac: isini iZulebuli xdebian

moixaron da arabunebrivi mimar-

TulebiT imoZraon, ris Sedegadac

terfi CaquCis formas Rebulobs.

Tad, SesaZloa, Wamis Semdegac

gaZlierdes.

daavadebis

negatiuri Sedegebi

1. imunitetis daTrgunva _

helminTebi aqveiTebs sisxlSi

damcavi nivTierebebis dones

da nerwyvis fermentebis aqtivobas;

2. enterobioziT daavadebul

bavSvebSi sagrZnoblad

mcirdeba profilaqtikuri acrebis

efeqtianoba, amitom ac-

rebis Catarebamde aucilebelia

nebismieri saxis helmin-

Tozis mkurnaloba.

3. zrda-ganviTarebis tempebis

Seneleba _ qronikulad

moavade bavSvebis sisxlSi

mkveTrad klebulobs spilen-

Zis, TuTiisa da magniumis raodenoba,

am mikroelementTa

deficiti ki, rogorc fizikuri

ise gonebrivi ganviTarebis

Semaferxebeli faqtoria;

4. garTuleba _ daavadeba

SesaZloa garTuldes Wianawlavis

danamatis anTebiT (apen-

rogor moviqceT

Zvalukas mkurnalobis mxolod

erTi _ qirurgiuli meTodi arsebobs.

erTxans pirdapir xrtilovan wanazards

an didi TiTis Zvals kveTdnen.

dRes damokidebuleba radikalurad

Seicvala _ Zvaluka aRiqmeba

ara mxolod didi TiTis (rogorc

adre miaCndaT), aramed mTeli terfis

daavadebad, amitom mkurnalobac

kompleqsuria da terfis yvela saxsrisa

da myesis koreqcias gulisxmobs.

operaciamde rekomendebulia kompresebi,

iodis badeebi, masaJi, samkurnalo

mcenareTa naxarSis Tbili

abazanebi, magram gaxsovdeT, rom es

mxolod droebiTi saSualebania,

romlebic aseve droebiT Sedegs iZleva.

maTi daxmarebiT mcirdeba terfSi

anTebiTi procesi da misi Tanmdevi

tkivilic klebulobs, magram

problema bolomde mougvarebeli

rCeba _ deformirebuli terfis safuZvliani

mkurnaloba mxolod da

mxolod qirurgiuli wesiTaa SesaZlebeli.

enterobiozi _ organizmSi maxvila parazitobs

diciti), ukana tanis napraliT

da zogjer enureziT _

RamiT Sardis SeukavlobT.

rogor aviciloT

enterobiozi

* upirveles yovlisa, patara

unda miaCvioT piradi higienis

wesebs, gadaaCvieT Ti-

Tebisa da saTamaSoebis pirSi

Cadebas, xSirad unda ibanos

xeli sapniT, enterobiozi xom

`WuWyiani xelebis daavadebaa~;

* pataras frCxilebi yovelTvis

ZirSi unda daaWraT;

* aucilebelia yovel dila-saRamos

maTi wels qvemoT

dabanva;

* Tu bavSvi dainficirebulia,

RamiT iseTi sacvali

unda CaacvaT, rom ZilSi ukana

tanis qavili ver SeZlos;

sacvali yoveli garecxvis

Semdeg unda gauTovdes cxeli

uToTi. mkurnalobis periodSi

aucilebelia TeTreulis xSiri

gamocvla, gamoxarSva da

gauToeba.

* saxli, gansakuTrebiT sabavSvo

oTaxi da iataki, unda

dasufTavdes sveli wesiT, specialuri

xsnarebiT, romlebic

sagnebs moacilebs kvercxebs

da gaanadgurebs kidec.

* kvercxebze damRupvelad

moqmedebs ramdenime saaTiT

yinva an kaSkaSa mzis pirdapiri

sxivebi;

* aucilebelia bavSvis racionSi

Sediodes: stafilo,

marwyvi, broweulis wveni, kakali,

krazanas Cai, romlebic

organizmidan parazitis gamodevnas

uwyobs xels;

* bavSvs aucileblad unda

hqondes calke sawoli da

pirsaxoci.

sabednierod, enterobiozi

arc ise saSiSi daavadebaa da

Tanamedrove medicinis pirobebSi

absoluturad ikurneba.

zviad RonRaZe


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

Cemi inkognito respondenti

axalgazrda, simpaTiuri kacia.

qristes asaki jer ar Semsrulebiao,

_ ganmicxada da isic

daamata, rom JurnalistebTan

saqme arasdros hqonia, `Tqven

popularuli adamianebi gainteresebT,

me ki bevri miklia aqamde,

Tumca Cems axloblebSi popularulic

var da metic. axla

imitom dagTanxmdiT, rom

Cemi vinaoba ar iSifreba, Tanac

am Temaze usasrulod SemiZlia

saubari, ramdens dabeWdavT, es

ukve Tqveni saqmea~ _ miTxra

`debiutantma~.

saubari marTlac xangrZlivi

gamogvivida. ai, ra miambo zazam

(saxeli Secvlilia): `usiyvarulod

Seqmnili ojaxi ojaxad

ar mimaCnia, magram moyvaruli

col-qmaric rom xSirad

ver eteva culis tarze, esec

faqtia. cocxali magaliTi agera

var: asi welic rom vicocxlo,

mainc ver mivxvdebi, ra

bzikma ukbina Cems cols. arada,

TiTqos, kargad vicnobdiT erTmaneTs.

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maSin udidesi msaxiobi

yofila da aq raRa unda _ gaemgzavros

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moakldeba da arc _ milionebi.

Tqven warmogidgeniaT,

uerTmaneTod erT saaTsac ver

vZlebdiT, xan me vijeqi mis

leqciebze da xan piriqiT, uamravi

winaaRmdegoba Segvxvda da

mainc erTad viyaviT _ nuTu es

siyvaruli ar iyo? winaaRmdegobebi

vaxsene, axlave davakonkreteb:

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cxovrebaa, rom kaci SeiZleba

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yava, ufro miyvardes, vidre

uSaqro, gaRiziandebiT? ara,

xom? agaSenaT RmerTma. Cems

cols ki Zalian aRizianebda,

Tumca imas ra aRar aRizianebda!

cxadia, yavasa da Wadraks

ar vgulisxmob _ saerTod aRaraferi

moswonda Cemi, Cemi

sityvac nervebs uSlida da

saqmec. erTxelac pirdapir gamomicxada,

_ erTad veRar viqnebiT,

daviRaleo.

umizezod araferi xdeba,

magram usindiso viyo, Tu misi

aseTi qcevis mizezi vicode. er-

Ti rusuli simReraa: `×òîá íå

saerTo gazeTi

ïèë, íå êóðèë è öâåòè âñåòäà

äàðèë~ rom icodeT, zustad

Cemzea. tyuilad geRimebaT, arafers

vazviadeb.

erTma Wkvianma kacma Tqva, _

qali CrdiliviTaa, roca misdev

_ garbis, roca gaurbixar _

Tavad gamogekidebao. xom magari

sityvebia? hoda, me es sibrZne

verafriT davnerge praqtikaSi,

verasodes vaeWviane, verafriT

davaintrige, zedmetad miyvarda

da imitom. araferi gansakuTre-

`murmanis ekali~

axmed umarovi, SesaZloa,

TbilisSi axmet Citaevis saqmeze

molaparakebebs marTavdes

eqsperti kavkasiis sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZe

ar gamoricxavs, rom doku umarovis Zma, axmed

umarovi, SesaZloa, saqarTveloSi axmet Citaevis

saqmeze imyofebodes.

„medianius-

Tan“ saubrisas igi

„exo kavkazas“ mier

gavrcelebul

informacias gamoexmaura,

romlis

mixedviTac, axmed

umarovi Tbilis-

Sia.

rogorc areSi-

Zem aRniSna, mas zusti informacia ar moepoveba,

Tumca im saubarze dayrdnobiT, romelic umarovsa

da „exo kavkazis“korespondents Soris Sedga,

SesaZloa, es ukanaskneli marTlac saqarTvelos

dedaqalaqSi iyos Camosuli.

„Tu axmed umarovi TbilisSia, SesaZloa, is

axmed Citaevis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT iyos aq da

molaparakebebs marTavdes. axmed Citaevi seriozuli

figura da axmed umarovis piradi megobaria“,

–– ganmarta mamuka areSiZem.

rogorc cnobilia, axmed Citaevi ruseTis fe-

buli qali araa _ ki, sasiamovno

garegnoba aqvs, magram gasagiJebeli

namdvilad ar aris.

garegnoba arafer SuaSia, ubralod,

miyvarda da morCa! sakmaod

didi dro gavida, rac er-

Tad aRar varT, masze ukeTesTanac

gamivlia, magram vgrZnob,

rom Tavs vityueb, imis damviwyebeli

ara var...

Tu gulaxdilobaa, bolomde

gulaxdiloba iyos: mag qalis

gamo yvelaferze var wamsvleli,

ar menaRvleba, Tu vinmes

TvalSi sasacilo gamovCndebi _

SeiZleba kaci movkla da xeli

ar amikankaldes. ho, marTla

asea _ SeiZleba movkla Cemi SeuracxmyofelisSeuracxmyofeli...~

P.S. vici, rom alqajia, magram

mainc qveyanas mirCevniao, _

miTxra Cemma repondentma. Znelia,

ivaraudo, rogor warimar-

Teba movlenebi. faqtia, rom

umizezod araferi xdeba, Tumca

adamianis gulSi Caxedva da

WeSmariti mizezis moZieba sulac

ar gaxlavT ioli saqme.

mkiTxvelo, iqneb Tavad gansazRvro,

ram gamoiwvia siyvaruliT

Seqmnili ojaxis dangreva:

droebiTma materialurma

gaWirvebam, qmris monotonurma

xasiaTma (rogorc Tavad aRniSna),

qalis pretenziebma Tu misma

cvalebadma bunebam _ `murmanis

ekali~ xom mravalgvaria...

nino sixaruliZe

deraciis moqalaqea CrdiloeT kavkasiidan. is

SeiaraRebuli dajgufebis erT-erTi wevria, romelic

Sinagan saqmeTa saministros TanamSromlebma

lopotas xeobaSi daakaves. Sinagan saqmeTa saministros

informaciT, igi dakavebisas daWrili

iyo da Sesabamisi samedicino daxmareba gaewia.

aRsaniSnavia, rom axmed umarovi interpolis

mier ar iZebneba. interpoli wiTeli cirkulariT

doku umarovs eZebs.

Crdilo oseTis teritoriaze

amboxebulebis dajgufeba aRmoaCines

CrdiloeT oseTis ganapira teritoriaze amboxebulebis

dajgufeba aRmoaCines.

,,ria novostis” informaciiT, dajgufebis aRmoCenis

gamo Crdilo oseTis gareubanSi kontrteroristuli

operaciis reJimia SemoRebuli.

samarTaldamcavebis gancxadebiT, maTTan operatiul

StabSi Sevida informacia, rom Crdilo

oseTisa da inguSeTis administraciul sazRvarze,

tyis masivSi bandformireba aRmoCnda, romelic

teroristul saqmianobaSi aris SemCneuli.

im teritoriaze, sadac operacia mimdinareobs,

fizikuri pirebis gadaadgilebasTan dakavSirebiT

SezRudvebia SemoRebuli.

arsebuli informaciiT, bandformireba daaxloebiT

10 adamianisgan Sedgeba.

`medianiusi~

23


24 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

mogzauroba samSobloSi

xandoSi yofnisas WobareTiswylis gaRma,

Sors erTi patara dasaxleba SevniSneT. eg qar-

Tuli sofeli Toki ariso, agvixsnes xandoelebma.

xandodan TokSi, Rrma xevis gamo, gza

pirdapir ar gadadis. iq an varevnidan unda

moxvde an javaxeTis mtkvris (igive faravniswylis)

kanionidan amavali gziT. Cven am ukanasknels

virCevT. aspinZa-axalqalaqis trasaze

damdgarni xerTvisis gadasaxvevidan me-8 kilometrze

gzidan xelmarcxniv vuxvevT da serpantiniT

kvlav tye-javaxeTSi avdivarT.

Toki zRvis donidan 1640

metris simaRleze, kanionis Tavzea,

Sua gzaze ki erTi Zalian saintereso

Zeglia, sadamdec qvei-

Tad, daaxloebiT, naxevari kilometria

sasiarulo wavarnebiT. es

teritoria sofel Toks ekuTvnis

da eklesias, samecniero literaturaSi,

amitom hqvia Tokis monasteri.

adgilobrivi qarTvelebi,

erTi legendis Tanaxmad, mas da-

Zmis monasters uwodeben (am legendas

sxva dros, sofel CunCxa-

Si yofnisas giambobT). da-Zmis monasterSi,

am saydris garda, kanionis

meore mxares, missave simaRleze

mdebare naisis eklesia moiazreba.

eklesiebi erTmaneTs uyureben

da TvalsawieriT 250-300

metri aSorebT.

Tokis terasaze mdgari saydari,

romelTanac, axla mivdivarT,

sinamdvileSi or eklesias aerTianebs.

samxreTiT, dabla, mcire nagebobaa

(Sida zomebia 3,10X1,90

m), igi zogan uxeSad damuSavebuli,

magram Tanabari zomis mcire

qviTaa amoyvanili, zogan sufTad

gaTlili veeba kvadrebiT. qvaTa

Tlis, SerCevisa da wyobis aseTi

Sexameba adreSuasaukuneebisTvis

aris damaxasiaTebeli.

salocavi dasavleTidan naxevarwriuli

TaRiTaa gaxsnili. es

nagebobis erTaderTi Sesasvlelia.

yuradRebas ipyrobs sakur-

Txevlis absidis Semkvreli er-

Tob monumenturi, nalisebri moyvanilobis

TaRi. samlocvelo VII-

IX saukuneebiT unda daTariRes.

am uZveles samlocveloze

mogvianebiT, daaxloebiT XIII-XIV

saukuneebSi, CrdiloeTidan gacilebiT

didi saydari miudgamT,

romelsac, Tavis mxriv, Tanadrouli

CrdiloeTis ori minaSeni

saros

mamali

tye-javaxeTi

aqvs. maTgan erT-erTi damatebiT

samlocvelos warmoadgens da

mTavar darbazs gaSlili TaRiT

ukavSirdeba. rogorc didi, ise

mcire darbazis sakurTxevlis absidis

naxevarwre dabrecilia.

mTliani taZris Sida zomebia:

sigrZeSi 9,3 m. siganeSi 7,1 m. daaxloebiT

1 m.-is sisqis kedlebi

sufTad gaTlili qvis didi kvadrebiTaa

ayvanili da maTze aranairi

CuqurTma ar aris.

...gza nel-nela Crdilo-aRmosavleTiT

ixreba. TokSi SevdivarT.

sofelSi metnaklebad saRsalamaTad

aTiod saxli gamoiyureba

da aqedanac naxevars boqlomi

adevs. ai, ukve ori saaTia, rac

TokSi vtrialebT, magram erTi

TavCaqindruli kacis garda aravis

gauvlia _ puris tomrebiT datvirTuli

cxeni mihyavs. karga mo-

SorebiT Saosani dedaberi saqmianobs

aivanze... arc ZaRlis yefa,

arc mamlis yivili.

osmalos batonobisas welSi

rom gatyda Toki, mas mere asea _

vinc marTlmadidebloba ar daTmo,

gadaixvewa, vinc daTmo, _ ga-

Turqda da ierli gaxda. 1944 wels

ierli Sua aziaSi gadaasaxles

da Toki mTlad dacarielda.

mere, TiTqos,

axlomdebare qarTulisoflebidan

amovida

ramdenime komli,

magram, xelisuflebisuyuradRebobis

gamo,

umetesobam fexi

ver moikida.

Tokis centrSi XIV saukunis

darbazuli saydari, sabednierod,

aRdgenilia. Tlili, ruxi qvis

daudevari wyobiT aSenebul eklesias

etyoba, rom XIV saukunis

ostati iseTi gulmodgine ar iyo,

rogorc misi winapari. kargamoketili

saydris win IX-X saukuneebis

ramdenime qvajvari devs. odnav

moSorebiT WobareTisxevs gadascqeris

Zveli, mkvdari sofeli.

morRveuli saxlebis kedlebi yoreTa

doneze dasula. TiTqos

soflisTvis saxuravi auxdiaT da

zevidan davcqeri Camqral sicocxles.

kidev ufro aRmosavle-

TiT, zed kldis Tavze, dangreuli

koSkia, romelic bolos, Turme,

gamahmadianebul abaSiZes ekuTvnoda.

vtovebT Toks da dasavleTiT,

sarosken mivemgzavrebiT. sevdas

xalisi cvlis, sasowarkveTas _

imedi. da es ara imitom, rom saro

didad dalxinebuli sofelia,

aramed imitom, rom fesvi ar gaxmobia

da qarTuli sisxli ar daSretia.

TurqTa uRlis dros saroelebma

udidesi gmiroba gamoiCines.

maSin, roca javaxeTis erTma nawilma

gamahmadianebas Tavi ver

aarida, xolo meore nawilma gadarCenis

mizniT kaTolikoba mii-

Ro, saroelebma daufaravad atares

sjuli. karga xnis manZilze,

javaxs rom ityodnen, gaTurqebuli

Tu gakaTolikebuli qarTveli

an aq mosuli somxebi hyavdaT

mxedvelobaSi. saroelebs maTSi

aTqvefa ar surdaT da protesti

Taviseburad gamoxates. es erTi

saros mTavarangelozis eklesia da cixis koSkis

naSali

leqsidan Cans: `sarvelebi Tavis

Tavsa javaxelad ara scnoben,

vinc javaxi dauZaxos, im kacs

hkicxven, im kacs gmoben~.

amJamindeli 200-komliani saro

zevidan dascqeris mis sakrebuloSi

Semaval patara nijgors,

romelic yurZniT, xiliT da metadre

kaklis siuxviT iwonebs

Tavs mtkvris xeobaSi, orive soflis

xalxi, Cemi dakvirvebiT er-

Ti `Camosxmisaa~. istoriuli qartexilebis

kvali dResac SemorCenia

aqaur vaJkacTa gafoladebul,

daxvewil saxeebs, gamoxedvas da

mozomil sityvas. erT-erT maTgans,

siberes miaxloebul vaso

aspaniZes sasiamovno garegnobis,

darbaisel kacs im uZeelesi cixis

naSalTan mivyavar, romlis

warwera misi amgebis vinaobas

gvacnobs _ vaCe gurgenis Ze. mis-

Tvis demetre pirvels rexi da ma-

Wa uCuqebia. gamodis, rom Zegli

XII saukunisaa, arada qvaTa megaliTur

wyobas, TiTqos, gacilebiT

Zvel droSi gadavyavarT. aqve

dgas IX-X saukuneebis mTavarangelozebis

ornaviani eklesia. masSi

dRemdea Semonaxuli sawinamZRvro

bavrayi, romelsac yovelwliurad

gamoabrZaneben xolme da sofelSi

daatareben. saroSi yvelaferi Zalian

saintereso da arqaulia:

viwro, yoriani quCabandebi, erdobaniani,

dedaboZiani da mercxlisbuda

Weriani darbazebi, adamianebi,

Tivisa da wivis zvinebi. TiTqos

mamalic qarTulad yivis. er-

Ti saxlis win oTaraanT qvrivis

msgavsi dedakaci Camomjdara da

windas qsovs, gzaze viRac saxedrebs

modenis, iqve _ ficrulidan

Tokis monasteri, soflis eklesia `wminda giorgi~ Tavisi

stelebiT da xizabavris `laSas saydari~

grdemlisa da uros Widilis

xma ismis _ mWedeli

sofels amxnevebs.

aq, saroSi, bibliur

sofels Sevcqeri.

sarodan 4-5 kilometrSi,

saroswylis ayolebaze,

mis marjvena napirze

xizabavraa gaSenebuli.

xizabavra is sofelia,

romelmac aspinZis

omSi gamarjvebul mefe

erekles sanaqebod umaspinZla.

sofeli somexi

mematianis cnobiT, 841-

842 wlebidan Cans, roca

saqarTveloSi SemoWrili

arabi sardali xalil

ibn-iazidi swored javaxeTSi,

kerZod ki xizabirSi mouklavT.

amdenad, is versia, rom xizabavra

ori soflis mkvidrTa erToblivi

dasaxlebiT warmoqmnili toponimia,

Zalian Zvel dros unda

gvaxsenebdes. erTi sofeli `xiza~,

sadRac maxloblad yofila,

meore _ `bavra~ ki dResac zed

akravs axalqalaqs. 300-komlian

xizabavrSi, dRes 290 komli ka-

Tolike qarTvelia, danarCeni 10

marTlmadidebelia. kaTolikeni

XIX saukunis bolos vatikanis

daxmarebiT agebul da dRes moqmed

im did taZarSi loculoben,

romelsac `qristes wminda guli~

hqvia. marTlmadidebelTa Zveli,

patara, magram ostaturad nagebi

darbazuli eklesia XI saukunisa

unda iyos, rasac erT-erTi warweris

(`qriste, Seiwyale... mamai

suliTa da giorgi Seiwyale~) paleografiuli

analizi cxadhyofs.

eseklesia wminda giorgis

saxelobisaa, magram xibazavrSi

mas kidev ori Serqmeuli saxeli

aqvs: `laSas saydari~ da `Rarib-

Ta eklesia~. pirveli saxeli, albaT

taZris erT-erTi warweris

gamoZaxilia, romelSic laSa-giorgia

naxsenebi (`qriste, Seiwyale

laSa alastneli javaxT ufali~).

meore saxeli imdroindeli

unda iyos, roca osmaleTis imperiaSi

yofnisas (axalcixis safa-

So), aqauri da SedarebiT laRad

mcxovrebi gakaTolikebuli qarTvelebi,

marTlmadideblad darCenil

da dabeCavebul qarTvelebs

medidurad uyurebdnen. am patara

taZars aqvs osmalos batonobis

dros Semovlebuli galavani, romelSic

mxedruli asoebiT Sereuli

nusxuri warwera aris: `saxeliTa

RmrTisiTa ahRmarTes ...

Cven saroelman...~ rogorc es

warwera cxadhyofs, osmaleTis

batonobaSi saroelebi xizabavra-

Si mcxovrebi marTlmadidebeli

qarTvelebis gadarCenazec zrunavdnen

da maT taZars ganamtkicebdnen.

laSas taZris galavanTan er-

Ti didi, gemrieli wyaro gadmos-

Cqefs. vinc ar unda gaiaros aq,

marTlmadidebelma Tu kaTolikem,

yvela am wyaros ewafeba.

gela qoqiaSvili

avtoris fotoebi


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

jemal davlianiZe

SevardnaZe

qveyanas angrevda!

evroamerika SevardnaZes aqebda

da aqebda!

Cavida safrangeTSi SevardnaZe!

didi pativiscemiT miiRes!

misma sazRvargareTelma megobrebma

kargad ician, ra bedovlaTia

`didi politikosi~, magram mTavaria

Cven, qarTvelebma davijeroT

es ambavi. amerikeli, germaneli,

ingliseli, frangi rom ityvis SevardnaZis

Sesaxeb `didiao~, rao,

qarTveli da Tan doylapia, amas

ar daijerebs?

SevardnaZe didad daafasa evroamerikam,

magram manve ar miiRo

zviad gamsaxurdia.

SevardnaZe `did politikosad~

monaTles, zviad gamsaxurdia

ki _ faSistad!

TviTon SevardnaZis specbrigadebi

TiTqmis mudam dRe axorcieleben

rkinigzebis, xidebis, sxvadasxva

obieqtebis afeTqebas da

amas abraleben CeCneTSi gadaxvewil

zviad gamsaxurdias!

am dros, bneleTis jurRmulebSi,

romelic mfarvelobs SevardnaZes,

gadawyvetileba ukve mi-

Rebulia _ zviad gamsaxurdia

aucileblad unda ganadgurdes

fizikurad.

evroamerikuli saZmo ki mTeli

msoflios gasagonad aqebs, adidebs

SevardnaZes! exmarebian,

ajildoeben da gaiZaxian, rom SevardnaZe

msoflio rangis udidesi

politikosia!

Rirseul adamians, vinc odnav

mainc icnobs eduard SevardnaZes,

sircxvili dawvavs, iseTi saqebari

werilebi modis amerikidan.

ase magaliTad, 1992 wlis aprils,

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis

prezidenti jorj buSi, werils

ugzavnis SevardnaZes da es

mimarTva kargad rom gaisigrZegano,

gaxlavT erTgvari angariSis

Cabareba. gaocdebi kaci _ iseTi

STabeWdileba rCeba, TiTqos im

ubneles ierarqiaSi, romelsac SevardnaZe

ekuTvnis, jorj buSs gacilebiT

naklebi xarisxi gaaCnia.

vnaxoT faqti! wavikiTxoT

jorj buSis werili:

`mis aRmatebulebas eduard

SevardnaZes, saqarTvelos respublikis

saxelmwifo sabWos Tavmjdomares!

Zvirfaso Tavmjdomare eduard

SevardnaZev! dRes sajarod gamovaqveyneb

yofili sabWoTa kavSiris

damoukidebel saxelmwifoTa demokratiisa

da Tavisufali bazrebis

mxardamWer mTel rig axal

iniciativebs. msurs winaswar SegatyobinoT

Cemi gancxadebis ambavi.

imisaTvis, rom am saqmeSi Cavaba

aRmasrulebeli xelisufleba,

kongresi da amerikeli xalxi da

stimuli mivce mravalmxriv Zalisxmevas,

vacxadeb, rom viReb

ruseTisa da evraziis sxva xalxebisaTvis

daxmarebis yovlismomcvel

pakets.

jer erTi, vacxadeb, rom

mxars vuWerT yovlismomcvel

mravalmxriv ekonomikur stabilizaciis

programas saerTaSoriso

savaluto fondis, msoflio bankisa

da `Svideulis~ meSveobiT,

masSi gaTvaliswinebuli iqneba eqvsi

miliardi dolaris gamoyofa

valutis stabilizaciis fondSi

da 18 miliardi dolarisa _ ruseTisTvis

damatebiTi makroekonomikuri

daxmarebis gasawevad (aSSi

tyuil-ubralod arasodes aravis

exmareba, miT umetes ruseTs.

Tanac, ra SuaSi unda iyos Sevar-

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-38

dnaZe? ratom atyobinebs winaswar

jorj buSi SevardnaZes _ gixarodes,

ruseTs unda davexmaroo?

iqneb imitom, rom ruseTi ukve

gamzadebuli hyavdaT dasaSlelad

da dasaqucmaceblad? _ j.d.).

vkisrulobT valdebulebas, gavuwioT

mxardaWera damatebiT makroekonomikuri

stabilizaciis

Zalisxmevas saqarTveloSi (sul

ramdenime Tvis damxobilia kanonieri

xelisufleba da mZvinvarebs

SevardnaZis terori! _ j.d.) da

sxva damoukidebel saxelmwifoeb-

Si (sadac zviad gamsaxurdias

msgavsad dinebis sawinaaRmdegod

aravin dacuravs! _ j.d.) imis kvalobaze,

Tu rogor imuSavebT saerTaSoriso

savaluto fondTan

im reformaTa yovelmxrivi gegmis

formulirebisaTvis, romlebic

imsaxureben ndobas.

meorec, kongresSi vgzavni

yovlismomcvel integrirebul winadadebebs

_ 1992 wlis aqts Tavisuflebis

mxardaWeris Sesaxeb

(RmerTo, gviSvele! _ j.d.) es kanonmdebloba

miznad isaxavs imas,

rom moixsnas `civi omis~ periodis

SezRudvebi da miviRoT axali

uflebamosilebani, SeerTebulma

Statebma SeZlos, rac SeiZleba

ukeT Seuwyos xeli Tqvens Zalisxmevas,

aSenoT demokratia da Tavisufali

bazari. igi agreTve Seicavs

Tqvens qveyanaSi vaWrobas da

investiciebSi amerikis kompaniaTa

SesaZleblobebis gafarToebis

mniSvnelovan debulebebs.

mesamec, vacxadeb, rom dRes

damatebiT gamoiyofa 1,1 miliardi

dolaris odenobis sakredito garantiebi

sasofli-sameurneo saqonlis

Sesasyidad. samomxmareblo

kreditebis korporaciis saxiT

600 milion sakredito garantiebs

gadavcemT ruseTs, danarCeni

500 milioni gadairicxeba

ukrainis da sxva saxelmwifoebisaTvis.

Cvens mier gadadgmul nabijeb-

Tan erTad, Cemi mizania is, rom

amerikam dauWiros mxari Tqvens

qveyanaSi demokratias da ganmtkicdes

Semdgomi saerTaSoriso

Zalisxmeva da koordinacia.

imedi maqvs, rom mxars dami-

WerT erTobliv moqmedebaSi, romlis

mizania, uzrunvelvyoT demokratiisa

da Tavisufali bazrebis

ayvaveba.

gulwrfelad Tqveni jorj

buSi~.

da megobrebo, aqve, amave

dros, amave gazeTSi jorj buSis

werils mosdevs cnoba:

`saqarTvelos respublikis saxelmwifo

sabWos Tavmjdomarem

eduard SevardnaZem werili miiRo

moskovis mTavrobis premieris i.

lukianovisa da qalaq moskovis

meris g. popovisagan. werilSi

kerZod naTqvamia:

`pativcemulo eduard ambrosis

Zev! gaiTvaliswina ra, saqarTvelos

respublikaSi sursaTis

nakleboba, da xelmZRvanelobs ra,

ruseTisa da saqarTvelos xalxebis

tradiciuli megobruli ur-

TierTobiT (sad iyo aqamde `tradiciuli

megobroba~? nuTu zviad

gamsaxurdias dros qarTveli

xalxi sxva iyo da SevardnaZis

dros ki _ sxva? ra moxda? ra ga-

rigebas ar awerda xels zviadi da

raze daiTanxmes SevardnaZe, rom

evroamerikidan Tu ruseTidan ase

uxvad moayares sursaT-sanovage?

_ j.d.), ruseTis mTavrobam Tebervalsa

da martSi gamogzavna saqar-

Tvelos respublikaSi 135 tona

Saqari, 320 tona fqvili. aprilsa

da maisSi gamovagzavniT kidev

1500 tona fqvils. daiwyo TbilisSi

5 aTasi tona kartofilis

gamogzavna.

garda amisa, gadawyda moskovis

rezervebidan respublikaSi umokles

vadebSi 5 aTasi tona benzinisa

da 5 aTasi tona dizelis

saTbobis, daaxloebiT 80 samgzavro

avtobusis, komunaluri meurneobisaTvis

gankuTvnili 20 avtomanqanis,

agreTve sawarmoo-teqnikuri

daniSnulebis mniSvnelovani

moculobis produqciis gamogzavnis

sakiTxebi.

guliTad madlobas mogaxsenebT

saqarTvelodan Tambaqos,

spirtiani sasmelebisa da sxva saqonlis

Semxvedri mowodebisaTvis.

imedi gvaqvs, rom momavalSi kidev

ufro ganviTardeba moskovisa da

saqarTvelos respublikis mTavrobaTa

TanamSromloba~ (orive werili

dabeWilia gazeT `saqarTvelos

respublikaSi~, #56, 1992

wlis 8 aprils).

RmerTo Cemo! ra siamtkbilobaa

jorj buSs, SevardnaZes, lukianovsa

da popovs Soris.

sisxliT morwyuli

saqarTvelo,

amerika da ruseTi!

amerika da ruseTi, orive Zmurad

uwvdis xels mTlad sisxliT

morwyul saqarTvelos.

guSin, roca kanonieri xelisufleba

hyavda qarTvelebs, yvelam

blokada gamoucxada. SevardnaZe

gamoCnda Tu ara, msoflios

yvela qveynidan wamovida mravalmxrivi

daxmareba, romelic qarTvel

xalxamde dResac, 2009 welsac

ar mosula!

sad mihqondaT? sakuTar ojaxebSi,

megobrebSi da zogs, did

nawils, ukanve agzavnidnen isev da

isev madlobis niSnad.

mTavari ki isaa, rom aSS-c

kmayofilia da maSindeli ruse-

Tic. TiTqos SevardnaZe iseT ra-

Racas dahpirda... mainc ras? ra

SeiZleba yofiliyo? iqneb afxaze-

Ti da cxinvalis regioni? ufro

sworad _ afxazeTi da samaCablo

ruseTs, danarCeni ki _ amerikaso!?

rao, dRes rac ukve moxda _

afxazeTi da e.w. samxreT oseTi,

rom ukve saqarTvelodan mowyvetilia,

gana faqti ar gaxlavT?

zemoT Cven vnaxeT amerikis da

ruseTis Sexmatkbilebuli werili,

sasiyvarulo mimarTvebi SevardnaZisadmi.

axla gadavxedoT

1992 wlis isev aprilis, oRond

Sua aprilis ambebs, rogor exmarebian

SevardnaZes (da ara saqarTvelos,)

germaniidan.

gavSaloT gazeTi `saqarTvelos

respublika~ (#60, 1992

wlis 14 aprili), romlis mowinave

gverdze, pirvel gverdze

msxvili asoebiT aweria:

`evropa da saqarTvelo erTmaneTis

Sesaxvedrad daiZrnen~.

Turme saqarTveloSi Camobr-

Zanebula evropa, romelsac hqvia

germaniis vice-kancleri, sagareo

saqmeTa ministri hans-ditrix gen-

Seri da mas daxvedria saqarTvelo

_ eduard SevardnaZe.

vkiTxulob hans-ditrix genSeris

sityvas:

`Zvirfaso eduard,

Zvirfaso nanuli!

qalbatonebo da batonebo!

`vin moyvaresa ar eZebs, igi

Tavisa mteria~

es strofi, didi qarTveli da

evropeli (biWos, yoCaR batono

genSer, Cven aqamde ar vicodiT,

rom SoTa rusTaveli evropeli

poeti yofila! rogor CamovrCenilvarT,

Zlivs ar agvixile Tvali

am kavkasielebs? _ j.d.) poetis,

SoTa rusTavelisa, amSvenebs

mis Zegls rusTavelis parkSi,

bolSaia gruzinskaias quCaze,

moskovSi.

parkis pirdapir germaniis saelCoa,

romelic ganlagebulia

Tavad bagrationis yofil sasaxleSi

(germania, genSeri, magram

kvlav moskovi. aqac daSaqrulni

arian germania, saqarTvelo da

ruseTi! iqneb marTldeba Cemi varaudi?

maSinve xom ar gaurigda

SevardnaZe evroamerikas da ruseTs-saqarTvelos

orad gagiyofT,

Tqven mSvidad iyaviTo? _

j.d.). am Zegls Cauvlis yvela,

vinc ki germaniis saelCoSi midis.

visac am strofis gageba surda,

iman gaigo igi (raRacas orazrovnebs

batoni ditrixi, - vgoneb,

mxedvelobaSi hyavs Sevradna-

Ze, romelmac gaigo SoTa rusTavelis

cnobili Segoneba, xolo

zviad gamsaxurdiam ver SeZlo,

ver waikiTxa `vefxistyaosani~, ar

eyo imdeni ganaTleba, codna, marifaTi,

rom kargad aReqva da gaego!

arada, batoni genSeri da SevardnaZe

rasac fizikurad iwonidnen

orive erTad, zviads asi

imdeni wigni hqonda wakiTxuli

da brwyinvale naSromic hqonda

`vefxistyaosnis saxismetyveleba~.

ra samwuxaro droa! ra saSineleba

trialebs dRevandel msoflioSi!

_ j.d.). es sityvebi WeSmaritebas

RaRadeben da maT saukuneebs

gauZles. es WeSmariteba is

aris, rom urTierTgageba, megobroba

da TanamSromloba yvelafris

sawyaoa.

ukanasknel wlebSi, Cven yvela

davrwmundiT, Tu ra marTali iyo

poeti. es asea: `vin moyvaresa ar

eZebs, igi Tavisa mteria~ da me, am

sityvebiT, romlebic Cven gvakav-

Sirebs, mivmarTav Cems megobars,

eduard SevardnaZes (ra megobroba

autyda baton genSers ssrk-s

saerTo gazeTi

mware gakveTilebi

evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

sagareo ministrTan, xom aris saintereso?

_ j.d.)...

civi omi istorias Cabarda,

evropis politikuri dayofa daZleulia.

Tqven, batono Tavmjdomarev,

Tqveni wvlili SeitaneT am

istoriul procesSi. SorsmWvretelobiT

da pasuxismgeblobiT

mSvidobisaTvis aRniSnulia Tqveni

politika. amiT Tqven safuZveli

CauyareT saqarTvelos damoukideblobis

xorcSesxmas, damoukidebeli,

Tavisufali saqarTvelosaTvis,

msoflios saxelmwifoebis

Tanamegobrobis wevrisaTvis.

es ar SeiZleba ganviTarebis

saboloo punqti iyos. saqarTvelo

dRes dgas didi samomavlo

amocanebis winaSe. demokratiuli

gardaqmnebi mSvidobian da Tavisufal

sazogadoebaSi. saqarTvelo

24 martidan evropis uSiSroebis

da TanamSromlobis sabWos wevria.

man aRiara am sabWos yvela

valdebuleba da gadawyvetileba.

parizis qartia _ evropis konstitucia

dRes saqarTveloSic

moqmedebs.

gardaqmna moiTxovs did Zalisxmevas.

is moiTxovs stabilurobas

da mxardaWeras (am dros

SevardnaZis specialuri samxedro-kriminaluri

danayofebi arbevs

da xvrets dasavleT saqarTvelos

sxvadasxva kuTxeebs. apatimrebs

da awamebs saqarTvelos

respublikis pirveli da kanonieri

prezidentis momxreebs. cixeebSi

amwyvdevs da awamebs politikur

patimrebs! _ j.d.). Cven

germanelebs, gvsurs viyoT Tqveni

saimedo, da Tu Tqvenc inebebT,

mrCeveli da partniori.

es Cvens interesebsac Seesabameba.

Tqvens qveyanaSi mimdinare

procesebi mTel evropas exeba. evropa

ver gaxdeba erTiani Tu mis

nawilebSi saSiSroeba da SfoTianoba

iqneba.

... dRes msovlio Zirfesvianad

Seicvala. germania da saqarTvelo

im evropis ori nawilia, romelmac

daZlia samxedro da politikuri

dapirispireba. dRes safuZvels

vuyriT Cveni qveynebis mWidro

TanamSromlobas, romlis mizania

mSvidoba (am mSvidobis

mtredis TbilisSi yofnisas, roca

momitingeebs daeria policia,

ZaRlebic ki miusies adamianebs da

bevrs axsovs am cxovelebs xalxma

`genSerebi~ Searqva! _ j.d.).

batono Tavmjdomarev!

me vwev Wiqas da warmovTqvam

Tqvens sadRegr-Zelos, Tqveni

qveynisa da misi moqalaqeebis sadRegrZelos,

Cveni qveynebis mSvidobiani

da Tavisufali momavlis

sadRegrZelos~.

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

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26 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

devnilis xma

xelisuflebis jibeSia

dekarti brZanebs: “vazrovneb,

maSasadame, varsebob” da

radgan vcocxlobT da radgan

varsebobT, uamrav problemasTan

gvixdeba gamklaveba. “ar aris

kaci, ar aris problema.” problema

esaa, rTuli Teoriuli an

praqtikuli sakiTxi, romelic

saWiroebs Seswavlas, axsnas,

ganmartebas. dRevandel saqarTveloSi

ar xdeba problemis

arc Seswavla, arc axna da arc

ganmarteba. dRes, mxolod dapirebebia.

dapireba, rom xval uke-

Tesi dRe gveqneba. arada, dResaa

saWiro gadawydes problema.

problema ki uamravia. mxolod

sam ZiriTad Temas Sevexebi: devnilebi,

umuSevrebi, diasporebi.

gamigia termini – mkvdrad

Sobili kanoni. ai, mkvdrad Sobili

saministroebis Sesaxeb

araferi msmenia. ramdenime wlis

winaT Seiqmna diasporebis

kuTxiT saxelmwifo aparati.

dRemde gaurkvevelia, ra funqcia

da ra roli aqvs am uwyebas,

romelic ratomRac arCevnebis

wina periodSi axsendebaT

da iTvlian ucxoeTSi myof qar-

Tvelebs, ufro sworad, maT

xmebs. aseve sruliad gaurkvevelia

dasaqmebis saministros

funqcia. ufro sworad, garkveulia

- ra unda am saministros.

trapaiZis uwyeba gadasulia Riad

daiTvalos xmebi. TiToeul

ojaxSi Sedis agenti da ar aqvs

mniSvneloba muSaobs Tu ara esa

Tu is piri, isini anketas avseben

da gamokiTxvis bolos Rimiliani

interviueri iwers respondentis

mobiluris, saxlis

nomers da piradobis mowmobis

nomrebs. daaxloebiT 3-4 dReSi

dasaqmebis saministrodan Rimiliani

xma ukavSirdeba moqalaqes

da agentis Taobaze ekiTxeba

– ramdenad moewona igi da

rame pretenzia xom ar aqvs

agentis muSaobaze. isedac SeSinebuli

sazogadoeba am faqtiT

ufro metad izRudeba. misi

gvar-saxeli monacemTa bazaSi

Sedis da iZulebulia saxelisuflo

partias dauWiros mxari.

ufro metad uaresi da damabneveli

situaciaa subelianis

yofil uwyebaSi. devnilebis saministroSi

devnilebi arCevnebis

win axsendebaT. faqtia, devnilis

xma igebs arCevnebs. wlebis

manZilze ukanonod SeCerebuli

droebiTi misamarTebi,

mxolod arCevnebis win axldeba

da iwyeba qaoturad devnilebis

miwera ama Tu im regionSi. im

mizniT, rom devnilma SeZlos

xmis micema. yovelgvari berketis

gareSe xdeba rogorc ker-

Zo, aseve organizebuli misamar-

Tebis gacema. metic, wina saar-

Cevnod, kompaqturad Casaxlebul

obieqtebSi Cndeba erTi yo-

CaRi, xuTosani devnili, romelic

ukeTebs organizebas devnilebis

misamarTebs, isini mihyavs

saministroSi. saministro ki

uproblemod gascems axal misamarTebs.

garantia aqvT “yoCa-

Risgan”, rom es adamianebi

aucileblad Semoxazaven #5-s.

aseve winasaarCevnod galidan

gadmohyavT devnilebi, romlebsac

amisamarTeben kompaqtur misamarTebze

xuTianis Semoxazvis

sanacvlod. aseve winasaarCevnod,

saministroSi iwyeba erTjeradi

fuladi daxmarebebis

gacema, devnilebiT Casaxlebuli

obieqtebis mopirkeTeba da qonebis

sakuTrebaSi gadacema. aseve

mniSvnelovania erTi detali:

wina saarCevnod, xSir SemTxvevaSi,

devnilis mowmobaze xdeba

droebTi misamarTis grafaSi

mxolod regionis dasaxeleba

anu umisamarTo misamarTi. am

mowmobiT ki pirs ufleba aqvs

aRniSnul raionSi misces xma.

devnilebi principiT – dRevandeli

kvercxi mirCevnia xvalindel

qaTams, iyeneben am

Sanss. SiSiT, esec ar davkargoT

rac gvaqvso, erTaderT xmas aZleven

xelisuflebas. maT ar

sjeraT moqmedi xelisuflebis.

maT ukve arc imis sjeraT, rom

xelisufleba momaval axal

wels soxumsa da cxinvalSi

Sexvdeba. isini daiRalnen mudmivi

dapirebebiT.

gvesaubreba devnili, romelmac

gvTxova, ar gavamJRavnoT

misi vinaoba:

-ra vqna, meSinia. uamravi

problema maqvs. vici, rom am

tyuilSi vcxovrobT 20 welia.

erTaderTi, rac minda, es afxazeTSi

dabrunebaa. Semovxazav

“5”-s. Svilebi myavs, maT samsaxuri

undaT. ra vqna? aravin

gvexmareba. 10 kvadratSi cxovrebasac

Sevegue. amaTi 28 lariani

daxmareba meyofa? vici,

gvatyueben. rogorc undaT ise

gveqcevian. miTxres binas mogcemTo.

rom vkiTxe _ sad-meTqi?

ra mniSvneloba aqvso. Sen xma

mogveci da mere getyviTo. ai,

aseT SiSi varT. iZulebiT mivcem

xmas, aba, ra gavakeTo?

saubris gagrZeleba aRar

isurva respondentma. SiSs didi

Tvalebi aqvs. daSinebul devnilebs

ki Tavs zeviT Zala ar

aqvT. xelisufleba ki konfrontacias

uwyobs xels. gaxleCil

sazogadoebas ufro metad apirispirebs

erTmaneTTan da mxolod

piarze muSaobs. mxolod

kamerebis win niangis cremlebiT

tiris prezidenti. Caivlis ar-

Cevnebi da saxelmwifos xerxemali,

anu sazogadoeba aviwydebaT.

arCevnebamde ki axsendebaT

iZulebiT gadaadgilebuli pirebi.

arCevnebis Semdeg ki maTi

problema problemad rCeba. devnilis

xma aRar esmis da aRar

adardebs xelisuflebas. is ukve

mis jibeSia momaval arCevnebamde.

kidev erTi devnili afiqsirebs

Tavis azrs, mxolod im

imediT, rom inkognitod darCeba:

-ukve erTi Tvea ministrTan

Sexvedras viTxov. ministramde

ver mivedi. mas CvenTvis ar calia.

amaTi imedi rogor unda

mqondes. ar minda, magram iZulebuli

var, ucxoeTSi wavide. aba,

aq 28 larze rogor vacxovro

col-Svili? amaTi imedi ar

maqvs. eseni Cven ver dagvabruneben

Cvens saxlebSi. xandaxan imasac

vfiqrob, rom soxumSi davbrunde.

ar mainteresebs, ras

ityvian Cemze. Tundac moRalate

da eris gamyidveli meZaxon.

col-Svils SimSiliT xom ar

movklav?

gaRizianebuli devnilebi saministros

ezoSi erTmaneTs

uziareben azrs da amiT gahyavT

dro. ician, xelisufleba maT

problemebs ver moagvarebs, magram

ra qnan, xandaxan tyuili

dapirebac stimuli. xom unda

icxovron, ufro sworad xom

unda iarsebon.

isev “usaxelo” devnili:

-axlobeli gardaicvala ruseTSi.

dRemde gvpirdeba saministro

fuls gamovyofT da

gadmosvenebaSi dagidgebiT gverdiTo.

axla arCevnebi axlovdeba

da imedi maqvs, fuls gaiReben.

mis sanacvlod ki Semovxazav

“5”-s. aba, ra vqna. Cvens

micvalebuls upatrod xom ar

mivagdebT. fuli amaT aqvT, Cven

ki imas vakeTebT, rac maT undaT.

mjera-ar mjeras principia

qveyanaSi. Aar sjera devnilebs,

magram xmas nacionalebs miscemen.

ratom? pasuxi martivia-

SiSi. aRar undaT mesamed devniloba.

am SiSis fonze, winasaar-

Cevnod, devnilTa monacemebis

baza yvelaze bolos Sedis cesko-Si.

damuSavebuli, mowesrigebuli

da garantirebuli xmebi

ki xelisuflebis jibeSia.

ician devnilebma, yvelaferi

ician, magram ... neba Tavisufalia!

samiode kviraSi saqarTvelos

moqalaqeebi arCevans gaake-

Teben, ufro sworad, gaakeTebineben!

qeTi yvelaSvili


#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

saqarTvelos centraluri saarCevno komisiis

Tavmjdomares

baton zurab xaratiSvils!

g a n c x a d e b a

batono zurab!

2012 wlis 12 agvistos `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ 113-e muxlis

me-9 punqtis Tanaxmad, warmogidgineT

`uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni

simarTle~-s mier saqarTvelos

parlamentis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris

arCevnebSi partiis monawileobis

mxardamWer amomrCevelTa sia, saerTo

raodenobiT 26 896 (ocdaeqvsi aTas

rvaas oTxmocdaTeqvsmeti) xelmowera.

2012 wlis 16 agvistos ceskos

Sesabamisi samsaxuris mier aRniSnuli

siis Semowmebis Sedegad mizezTa gamo

gabaTilebuli iqna 11 322 (TerTmeti

aTas samasocdaori) xelmowera da

darCa 15 574 (TxuTmeti aTas xuTas

samocdaToTxmeti) xelmowera.

dafiqsirebuli xarvezis Sesavsebad

gankuTvnili drois vadaSi, saqar-

Tvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-e muxlis

me-2 punqtis Sesabamisad. Cvens mier

Segrovili da Tqvendami 2012 wlis 18

agvistos warmodgenili `uflis saxeliT

_ ufalia Cveni simarTles mier

saqarTvelos parlamentis 2012 wlis

1 oqtombris arCevnebSi partiis monawileobis

mxardamWer amomrCevelTa

siis saerTo raodenoba gaxldaT: 12

339 (Tormeti aTas samas ocdacxrameti).

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

administraciuli departamentis mier

2012 w. 18 agvistoTi daTariRebul

aqtSi, kerZod, vkiTxulobT `TanamimdevrobiT

sul Semowmda 412 furcelze

12 339 (Tormeti aTas samas ocdacxrameti)

xelmowera; Semowmebis

Sedegad gabaTilda 113 furcelze

3390 (sami aTas samas oTxmocdaaTi)

xelmowera da darCa 8 949 (rva aTas

cxraas ormocdacxra) xelmowera~.

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

administraciuli departamentis ufrosis

q-n elisabed veliZis mier iqve

gakeTebuli zepiri ganmartebiT irkveoda,

rom blankze xelmowerebis SegrovebisaTvis

pasuxismgebel pirTa mier

maTi xelmoweris TariRi, TiTqosda,

arasrulad iyo miTiTebuli, rame-

Tu mag. weria _ `17.08.12 w.~ rac

arasrulia, da unda eweros

_`17.08.2012 w~-io.

maSasadame, gamodioda, rom Cven-

Tvis ukve CaTvlil _ 15 574 (TxuTmeti

aTas xuTas samocdaToTxmet)

xelmoweras, emateboda `mxolod~ _

8.949 (rva aTas cxraas ormocdacxra)

xelmowera. rac jamSi gvaZlevs

24. 523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xuTas ocdasami)

xelmoweras da aseTi `operaciis~

Sedegad, saqarTvelos organuli

kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~

113-e muxlis me-9 punqtiT

gansazRvrul 25 000 savaldebulo

xelmoweras `akldeboda~ _ 477 xelmowera,

anu Cven aRar gveZleoda saarCevno

subieqtad daregistrirebis

ufleba.

batono zurab!

aRniSnulTan mimarTebaSi Tqvens

mier miRebul #51-2012 gankarguleba-

Si, CvenTvis saarCevno registraciaze

uaris Tqmis safuZvlad _ saqarTvelos

organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-e muxlis me-4

punqtis gansazRvruli moTxovnebis

aradakmayofilebis miTiTeba zustad

ar asaxavs sinamdviles.

rogorc mogexsenebaT, xsenebuli

muxli gvauwyebs:

_`4. baTilia yvela xelmowera,

Sesrulebuli im blankze, romelic

dadasturebuli ar aris xelmowerebis

SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebeli

piris mier, an romelSic miTiTebuli

ar aris an arasrulad aris miTi-

Tebuli am kanonis 37-e muxlis me-

4 punqtiT gaTvaliswinebuli monacemebi~

(muxli 38,4), xolo:

_`4. mxardamWerTa siis blank-

Si miTiTebuli unda iyos xelmowerebis

SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebeli

piris saxeli, gvari, misamarTi

(saqarTvelos moqalaqis piradobis

mowmobis mixedviT) da

sakontaqto telefonis nomeri, agreTve

blankis Sevsebis TariRi da

dadasturebuli unda iyos am piris

xelmoweriT~ (muxli 37.4);

amasTanave, xelmoweris Sesrulebis

TariRTan mimarTebaSi, saqarTvelos

organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-e muxlis

3-d punqti gvauwyebs:

_`3. mxardamWerTa siaSi amomrCevlis

xelmowera baTilad miiCneva, Tu:

d) xelmoweris TariRi miTiTebuli

ar aris an ar emTxveva am kanoniT

gansazRvrul mxardamWerTa siis Sedgenis

vadas~.

Cvens mier warmodgenili mxardam-

WerTa xelmomweri blankebi saqarTvelos

organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ yvela moTxovnaTa

sruli dacviTaa Sesrulebuli, ker-

Zod ki yvelgan miTiTebulia. xelmoweris

TariRi, romelic zustad emTxveva

`am kanoniT gansazRvrul mxardamWerTa

siis Sedgenis vadas~.

weria _`17.08.12 w.~ rac arasrulia,

da unda eweros _`17.08.2012

w.~.io.

igi (es e.w. xarvezi) ar SeiZleba

gaxdes Cveni p-g saarCevno subieqtad

daregistrirebaze uaris Tqmis safuZveli,

vinaidan, rogorc me _`17.08.12

w.~, aseve _ `17.08.2012 w.~, erTmane-

Tis identuria da zustad gansazRvravs,

rom xelmowera Sesrulebulia

mimdinare ori aTas Tormeti wlis 17

agvistos.

Sesabamisad, Cvens p-g `uflis saxeliT_

ufalia Cveni simarTles eqneba

ara _ 24.523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xu-

Tas ocdasami) xelmowera, aramed _

27 913 (ocdaSvidi aTas cxraas cameti)

xelmowera, rac srul safuZvels

iZleva p-g-s `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia

Cveni simarTle~-s saarCevno subieqtad

daregistrirebisaTvis.

batono zurab!

Cvengan damoukidebel mizezTa gamo

Cveni p-g `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia

Cveni simarTle~-s saarCevno subieqtad

ardaregistrirebis Taobaze,

Tqvens mier _ 2012 wlis 20 agvistos

miRebuli #51-2012 gankarguleba

Cven mxolod _ 2012 wlis 24 agvistos

gadmogveca.

aRniSnuli #51-2012 gankargulebis

miRebidan misi CvenTvis mxolod

me-4 dRes Cabarebisa gamo Cven SezRudulni

aRmovCndiT gamoviyenoT saqar-

Tvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ me-9 TaviT

(saarCevno davis ganxorcieleba) gansazRvruli,

CvenTvis kanoniT miniWebuli

_ gasaCivrebis 2-dRiani vadis

ufleba (77-e muxlis me-5 punqti, 78e

muxlis me-10 punqti).

aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, mogmarTavT

TxovniT _ gaiTvaliswinoT

zemoTqmuli da saqarTvelos organuli

kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno

kodeqsi~ TqvenTvis miniWebuli uflebiT

miiRoT saqarTvelos parlamentis

2012 wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi

Cveni p-g `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia

Cveni simarTle~-s saarCevno subieqtad

daregistrirebis gadawyvetileba.

imedi gvaqvs Tqvengan miviRebT zemoT

wamoWrili kiTxvebis Sesabamis

pasuxs.

pativiscemiT

`uflis saxeliT _

ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss

xelmZRvaneli

`samarTlianobis aRdgenis

kavSiris xma erisa:

`ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss

`laskaris~ Tavmjdomare

mixeil (gela)

saluaSvili

Tbilisi, 2012 wlis

26 agvisto

Cvenma prezidentma amaswinandel

baTumis mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrisas

ganacxada: xalxi, isev

Zvel, komunistebis dros mistiris,

netav, im droSi kargi ra naxes?

deni maSin ar iyo da gazi,

wyali maSin ar gvqonda da gza.

tanis dabana rom momindeboda,

wyals, vedroTi vacxelebdi da

`fr-fr~ ase visxamdio. Tavs zeviT

xelis aweviT aCvena wylis dasxma.

miSa, SeiZleba, prezidenti kaci,

aseTi mamali tyuilebis Tqmas

kadrulobdes da mosaxleobis winaSe

Tavs ircxvendes? Tu dagaviwyda

stalinis mier Seqmnil im

brwyinvale socialisturi formaciis

dros kargi ra iyo da ratom

mistiris mas Cveni mosaxleoba?

SegaxsenebT: _ im sistemis dros

qarTveli kaci, maTxovari ar mina-

xavs, rasac ver vityvi, dRevandeli,

Seni kapitalisturi sistemis

yofis, radgan isini yovel fexis

nabijze xelebgaSverilebi dganan.

prezident kacs, im sistemaze

augis saTqmelad ena rogor gibrundeba!

radgan maSin visac muSaoba

undoda yvelas Tavisi saintereso

samuSao hqonda. (axla milioni

welic rom gavides, is dasaqmeba

aRarasodes aRar iqneba). ma-

Sin umuSevari ar arsebobda, radgan

TiTqmis yvela fabrika-qarxnebis

SesasvlelebSi gamokruli iyo

siebi, gvWirdeba esa da es specialistebio.

ama Tu im fabrikaSi, an

qarxanaSi samuSao Tu ar moewoneboda,

meoreSi gadadioda. Tu erT

saproeqto organizaciaSi ar moewoneboda

samuSao, meoreSi, an romelime

sammarTveloSi Soulobda

TavisTvis Sesaferis adgils, an

sulac romelime kvleviT institutSi

moewyoboda da a.S. romlebic

Sen gaauqme da Senobebi dayide.

sacxovrebeli binebi centralizebulad

Tbeboda, zamTarSi, binaSi,

iseTi Semawuxebeli siTbo

iyo, rom siTbos Semomaval milebze,

onkanebs vketavdiT. wylis onkans

gadavabrunebdi _ civi wyali

modioda, gadmovabrunebdi da cxeli

wyali moCqrialebda. deni 4

kapiki Rirda, gazi, Tu ginda aTasi

kubi dagexarja, 20 kapikze

mets aravin mTxovda da mTlianad

yvela saxis komunaluri xarjebi

5 maneTze meti ar mijdeboda. axla

ki zamTarSi, marto komunaluri

gadasaxadi, 400 larze adis.

maSin minimaluri pensia 80 maneTi

rom iyo, im oTxmocmaneTian pensionersac

ki cxovreba kacurad SeeZlo,

aRar vlaparakob 140 mane-

Tian pensionerebze, rasac is 80maneTiani

pensioneri iZenda, dRevandelma

pensionerma igive produqtebi

rom SeiZinos, mas 640

lari unda hqondes, radgan maSin

kilogrami xorci 2 maneTi Rirda

da 80 maneTad 40 kilo xorcs yidulobda,

rasac dRevandeli kur-

siT 640 lari sWirdeba. amitom

stalinis mier Seqmnil socializmSi

cxovreba, yvelasaTvis saamuri

iyo da imitom mistirian im yofas,

radgan msoflioSi yvelaze demokratiuli

formacia iyo socializmi.

amitomac axla, Cveni mosaxleoba

ambobs: _ Turme komunizmSi

gvicxovria, da Cven ki, vera vxvdebodiTo.

axla ki, vinc xalxis mier

Seqmnili qoneba daitaca, komunizmSi

arian im qonebis Semqmnelebi

ki jojoxeTSi.

Tqvengan nalanZRi socialisturi

sistemis dros am xnis kacs

me ar maxsovs komunistebs romelime

ojaxisTvis an gazi CaeWraT

da an deni gamoerToT. Tqvengan naqebma

kapitalistebma ki Cemi karis

mezoblebs oTxsulian ojaxs,

romlebsac ori mcirewlovani _ 8

da 10 wlis bavSvebi hyavT, 4

wlis win (rodesac es bavSvebi 4

da 6 wlisani iyvnen) gazi rom gamourTes,

es ojaxi dResac zam-

TarSi gaTbobis gareSea, bavSvebi

skolidan rom modian loginSi

wvebian da ise Tbebian. am ojaxs

dResac deni gamorTuli aqvs. bav-

Svebi, saRamoTi, sxvis ganaTebul

fanjrebs rom uyureben, dedas

eubnebian: _ ra bednierebi arian is

bavSvebi, visi fanjrebidanac eleqtronis

Suqi gamokrTiso. SeiZleba

mosaxleobis aseT yofaSi yofnis

dros misi prezidenti Tavs

iwonebdes?!

batono mixeil, me rom prezidenti

viyo, mividodi

im ojaxSi,

am mware sinamdviles

rom vna-

xavdi, imave ojaxSi Tavs Cemi sakuTari

xeliT moviklavdi, rom

Sens gaumaZRar da usulgulo kapitalistebs,

egeba, patara sindisis

qenjna egrZnoT.

samagierod, dRevandeli Seni

`elita~ _ parlamentarebi, saministroebis

muSakebi, gamgeblebi

da sxva. am kapitalisturma sistemam

bednierze bednierebad aqcies.

TiTqmis yvela maTganma sasaxleebi

aiSena da 100 aTasebi raSi daxarjon,

aRar ician. maT xalxic da

qveyanac fexebze hkidiaT. amitomac

Tqvenc da Tqvens garemocvasac,

komunistebis da socializmis saxsenebelic

ki gezizRebaT. komunistebis

mier dRe da Rame oflismRvreli

SromiT aSenebuli socializmis

qonebiT, uSromelad rom

gamilionerdiT, ra Tqma unda,

Tqven im informaciis gaxsenebac

ar gindaT, amitomac aris, rom

Tqven im sistemas avadsaxsenebels

eZaxiT. xolo Cven, vinc is socializmi

avaSeneT da vimeoreb, vis

mier Seqmnili qonebiTac Tqven gamilionerdiT,

am simdidris Semqmnelebs

Carecxilebs gveZaxiT.

didad Seamayeba, rom Cemi Tavdadebuli,

52-wliani SromiT socialistur

saqarTvelos ise vem-

saerTo gazeTi

saxure, rom erTi kapikic ki, Cemi

xelfasiT, Cemi premiiT da Cemi gamogonebebiT

_ honoraris saxiT,

saxelmwifos salarodan ar mimi-

Ria. e.i. rasac me saxelmwifo ar

maZlevda, anu binZuri fulisTvis

xeli arasodes ar momikidia. miSa,

is ra prezidentia, romelic Tavis

xalxs danapirebs ar usrulebs

da yovel fexis nabijze atyuebs?

albaT, Senc da Seni nacebic ityvian

_ e.i. saSualeba ar gqonda da

imitom ar agiRiao. ara, Cveno

uZRebo Svilebo, maSin me ris sa-

Sualebac mqonda, is rom Tqven

gqonodaT, Tqveni Roruli moTxovnilebis

gamo dRes yvela Tqvengani,

miliarderi iqnebodiT.

1980 wlidan 1990 wlamde

elmavalmSenebel qarxanaSi 105 milioni

maneTis generaluri rekonstruqcia

midioda (rac maSin, im

105 milioni maneTiT keTdeboda,

dRes imas 2-jer 105 miliardi

dolariTac ver gaakeTeb). am rekonstruqciis

ganyofilebis ufrosi

viyavi me, miSa, albaT, yvela

Seni naci ityvis, maSin suleli

yofilao. Cveno momxveWelebo,

sulelebi gamogonebebs

ver igoneben. (eqvsiode

wlis win sruliad Sem-

TxveviT, rusul JurnalSi,

Cemi erT-erTi gamogoneba,

romelic me 1972 wels

cxovrebaSi davnerge, iaponelebis

erT-erT instituts,

34 wlis Semdeg gamougonia.

e.i. rac me, ramodenime aTeuli

wlis win, cxovrebaSi ganvaxorciele,

imas iaponiis institutis

tvini 34 wlis Semdeg Caswvda

da 250 milioni dolaris ekonomia

miiRo, maSinve aviRe Cemi gamogonebis

mowmoba da JurnaliT

xelSi mivedi saqpatentSi _ radgan

honorari, rogorc pirvel gamomgonebels,

kanoniT me mekuTvnoda,

sadac miTxres: _ ho, vxedavT,

rom gamogonebis avtoric Tqvena

xarT da kanoniT honoraric Tqven

gekuTvniT, magram am ususur saqarTvelos

imxela iaponiasTan Widili

ar SeuZlia. isev sabWoTa

kavSiri rom iyos, maSin ki dedas

vutirebdiTo).

afxazeTSi omi rom daiwyo, Cemi

qveynis mTlianobis dasacavad

maSinve gamovcxaddi lenraionis

samxedro komisariatSi. magram komisarma

bilaniSvilma 58 wlis

asakis gamo ar gamiSva, rezervSi

Camwera da miTxra: _ RmerTma ar

qnas, Tqveni asakis xalxi dagvWirdes,

Tu dagvWirdiT, dagiZaxebTo.

vinaidan me ar wamiyvanes, Cemi gamogonebebiT

mogrovili honorari

_ 72 aTasi maneTi, bolo kapikamde

sul afxazeTis Tavdacvis fondSi

Cavricxe.

im socialisturi sistemis

dros Cven `Carecxilebis~ 90

procenti, dRedaRam muxlCauxrelad

vSromobdiT da wyobas_ socializms

imitom mistiris mosaxleoba.

Tqven Tqveni Roruli

moTxovnilebebis gamo rigiT moqalaqeebs

cxovreba jojoxeTad

gviqcieT.

avTandil qurxuli

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24 28 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

msoflios 10 cnobili narkomani

1. froidma kokaini 1884 wels gasinja

da gaognebuli darCa misi SedegebiT. am

nivTierebis gamoyenebis Semdeg moexsna depresia,

daubrunda sakuTari Tavis rwmena.

axalgazrda zigmundma statia gamoaqveyna

saxelwodebiT ,,kokainis Sesaxeb~, sadac

igi rekomendacias uwevda kokains, rogorc

adgilobrivi gautkivarebis saSualebas, rogorc

asTmis, sakvebmomnelebel wamals, rac

depresiasa da nevrozebs Svelis.

fsiqoanalizis mamam im xanebSi bevri

naSromi gamoaqveyna kokainis Tvisebebis Sesaxeb,

sadac aRwerili iyo am nivTierebis miRebiT gamowveuli yvela

reaqcia. Tumca froidis daintereseba kokainiT SemTxveviTi ar yofila.

narkotikis borotad gamoyenebis gamo daiRupa froidis uaxloesi

megobari enst fon flaiSli.

megobris sikvdilamde froidi cdilobda flaiSli ganekurna narkodamokidebulebisagan

da kokainis SenacvlebiT mkurnalobda mas. magram

moxda ise, rom flaiSli axla kokaindamokidebuli gaxda. miiRo

didi raodenobis kokaini da gardaicvala.

magram davubrundeT kvlav zigmund froids. TviTonac bevrs cdilobda

gaqceoda TeTr fxvnils, magram es arc ise ioli aRmoCnda.

2. endi uorxoli - obetroli

obetroli arc Tu ise gavrcelebuli

narkotikia. am klasifikaciaSi aderals

ufro icnoben. am ukanasknels receptiT

iZlevian pacientisTvis, romelsac samu-

Saoze meti yuradReba da Sromisunarianoba

sWirdeba. pop varskvlavi endi uorxoli

obetrolis abebs ise ylapavda, rogorc

,,tik-takis~ marcvlebs. miT ufro,

aseTi tipis preparatebi fsiqologiur

aramdgradobas, depresias, gulis muSaobis

Seferxebas iwvevs. magram obetrols

kidev erTi Tviseba aqvs _ is swrafad

iwyebs moqmedebas da swrafadve mTavrdeba. ra unda hqna am dros? unda

ylapo da ylapo abebi. Sedegi? yovelTvis fataluria.

3. mailz devisi _ heroini

Tqveni ar vici, magram mailz devisi Cemi

usayvarlesi musikosia. mas ,,jazis Sav

baronsac~ uwodeben. me-20 saukunis am

udides kompozitors seriozuli problemebi

hq qonda narkotikebTan. misi SemoqmedebiTi

moRvaweobis dros iyo periodebi,

roca musikosi saerTod ver muSaobda. da

yvelafer amaSi narkotiki iyo damnaSave.

magram mailz devisis uaxloesi megobris,

cnobili boqsioris Suga rea robinsonis

daxmarebiT oTxwliani ,,brZolis~ Semdeg

SeZlo gamomZvraliyo narkotikuli jur-

Rmulidan da dabruneboda Semoqmedebas.

4. balzaki _ kofeini

bevri Tqvengani ityvis, diliT ver

vfxizldebi, samuSaos ver Sevudgebi Wiqa

yava Tu ar davlieo. magram es aris zustad

yavadamokidebuleba da es ,,awuxebda~

swored did frang mweralsac. mogexsenebaT,

balzaki sakmaod nayofieri Semoqmedi

iyo, igi yoveldRe saaTobiT muSaobda. hoda.

formaSi rom yofiliyo, svamda bevr yavas,

Zils rom gaqceoda. mas uyvarda Tqma

_ es surnelovani nayeni Cems gonebaSi

araCveulebriv azrebs badebso. magram dRes

iTvleba, rom swored yavis gadaWarbebuli

moxmarebis gamo daavadda mwerali gulis

avadmyofobiT, rac misi gardacvalebis mizezi gaxda axalgazrda asak-

Si. balzaki xom 50 wlisa gardaicvala?! igi dReSi oc Wiqa yavas miirTmevda.

aseT mdgomreobas yavadamokidebuleba anu kofeinizmi hqvia

da toqsikomaniis erT-erTi saxea. igi iwvevs gulsisxlZarRvTa daavadebebs,

nervuli sistemis daavadebebs, Tavis tkivilebs, Zilis darRvevas,

nervul aSlilobas, aRgznebadobas, SfoTvas. xSirad adamians pesimistur

ganwyobas uqmnis.

5. luis keroli _ opiumi

kerolis axalgazodobisas opiums laudanums

eZaxdnen da bevri adamiani svamda

opiums, roca odnav SeuZlod iyo, an Tavi

stkioda. aravin dafiqrebula maSin imaze,

rom SeiZleboda am wamalze damokidebulni

gamxdariyvnen. ase mouvida inglisel mwerals

Carlz lutvij dodjsons, luis kerolis

saxeliT cnobil adamians. igi migrenis

mZime daavadebiT itanjeboda. tkivilis

gasayuCeblad mwerali laudanums svamda.

miT umetes, rom adreul bavSvobaSi mas

seriozuli fsiqologiuri problemebi

hqonda. narkotiki ki ,,exmareboda~ mas kompleqsis moxsnasa da saku-

Tari Tavisadmi rwmenis dabrunebaSi. roca mis wigns ,,alisa saocrebaTa

qveyanaSi~ waikiTxavT, darwmundebiT, rom luis keroli, am wignis

werisas narkotikis zemoqmedebis qveS iyo. Tumca unda iTqvas, rom

swored narkotiki iyo, ramac mis cxovrebas seriozuli ziani miayena.

6. edit piafi

yvelafers iRebda. cnobilia, rom safrangeTis

sayvareli momRerali 1951 wels

seriozul avtokatastrofaSi mohyva. romlis

Sedegadac momReralma dakarga xeli

da ori nekni da sakmaod arasaxarbielo

Sesaxedaoba miiRo. amis Semdeg mimarTa man

morfins. svamda yvelafers, rac xelSi

moxvdeboda. am saSinel avariamde cota

xniT adre swored avtokatastrofaSi daiRupa

editis sayvareli adamiani. momRerals

realobiT gamowveuli saSineli depresiisgan

Tavi rom daeRwia, alkohols mieZala.

TviTmkvlelobisgan igi megobarma

qalbatonma ixsna. alkoholizmisgan gansakurneblad mkurnalobam Sedegi

ver gamoiRo. sasmelsa da depresias momReralma Tavi ver daaRwia.

miuxedavad amisa, momRerali scenaze mainc gamodioda. Tavis did

mwuxarebas scenaze gamosvlisas veravin amCnevda, maSinac ki, roca is

ukve filtvis kiboTi mZimed iyo daavadebuli da sunTqvas uxuTavda

yelSi mibjenili sisxli.

7. magram iciT, Tqven rom

uiliam folkneri alkoholiki

iyo?

diax, swored is amerikeli mwerali

da novelisti, romelic unda

giTxraT, dRemde rCeba CemTvis

usayvarles mwerlad da literaturuli

azrovnebis ugvirgvino mefed.

Tumca, rogorc amboben, sxva

aranakleb cnobil da saxelovan

amerikel mwerlebsac stanjavda

Turme es saSineli Cveva. frensis ficjeraldi, ernest heminguei, edgar

po, sinkler luisi, ingliseli poeti da dramaturgi dilan tomasi.

alkoholi Zalian bevri cnobili mwerlisTvis iyo narkotiki,

romelmac SeiZleba iTqvas, maT didi sikeTe ar moutana.

9. trumen kepoti

trumen kepotma mwerlur warmatebas ma-

Sin miaRwia, roca aravin eloda amas, magram

swored am warmatebam daRupa igi. fufuneba,

cxovrebis araswori wesi, amave dros bevri

stresi da nerviuloba iyo is, ramac trumen

kepoti alkoholizmamde miiyvana. Tuki vinme

mas sasmels daumalavda, mwerali sasowarkveTilebaSi

vardeboda. bolo wlebSi is narkotikebs

mieZala. sikvdilis Semdeg mwerlis

sisxlSi aRmoaCines didi raodenobiT barbiturani,

valiumi, epilefsiis sawinaaRmdego

da tkivilgamayuCebeli preparatebis kvali.

8. maria kalasi _ kualudi

cnobili berZeni operis momRerali

maria kalasi sakmaod putkuna

qalbatoni gaxldaT, magram Tavisi

karieris mwvervalze man momentalurad

dakarga wona, amboben, rom

is svamda kualuds da swored am

abebma Camoacila zedmeti kilogramebi,

Tumca is yovelTvis irwmuneboda,

rom misi sigamxdre mkacri

dietis Sedegi iyo.

10. hemfri devi

cnobili didi britaneli qimikosi da

gamomgonebeli, romelmac udidesi aRmoCenebi

gaakeTa qimiaSi miiCnevda, rom azoti

ar aris sawamlavi. yovelive es man saku-

Tar Tavze gamoscada. hemfrim daiwyo azotis

ynosva da aRniSna, rom azotis sunma

SeiZleba adamianSi sasiamovno ganwyobac

gamoiwvios. iqedan moyolebuli qimikosi

yoveldRe ynosavda azots da miT ufro

metad grZnobda maTrobela efeqts, rac

masSi mxiarul halucinaciebs warmoqmnida.

am ,,zebunebrivi gazis~ zemoqmedebiT dawera hemfri devim leqsebi. is

am leqsebSi azotis moqmedebiT gamowveul ganwyobaze laparakobda.

erTxel, roca saxelovanma qimikosma gazis 5 didi doza Seiynosa,

3 saaTis ganmavlobaSi goneba dakarga, Tumca gamofxizlebis Semdeg eqsperimentebi

sakuTar Tavze ar Seuwyvetia. swored aman gamoiwvia mecnieris

seriozuli daavadeba da sikvdili.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

astrologiuri

prognozi

verZi _ am kvirSi profesionaluri

winsvla

geliT. konkretulad es

SeiZleba iyos axali samuSao

adgili an gasamrjelos momateba.

kuro _ mimdinare periodSi

moimatebs Tqveni

momxibvleloba da Sarmi,

es ki sawinaaRmdego sqesi adamianebs

Tqvendami simpaTiiT ganawyobs.

tyupebi _ Tu Tqven

gaTavisufldebiT gaorebisgan

da amasTan koncentraciasac

moaxerxebT, Sesa-

Zloa seriozul warmatebebs

miaRwioT.

kirCxibi _ kviris pirvel

naxevarSi mosalodnelia

garkveuli problemebi

gagiCndeT da es, Ziri-

Tadad, dakavSirebuli iqneba

Tqvens emociur mdgomareobasTan.

lomi _ moerideT marto

moqmedebas, TviT

ideebsac marto nu dagegmavT.

nebismier saqmian urTierTobaSi

uSualoba da saqmisadmi

profesiuli midgoma gamoavlineT.

qalwuli _ am periodSi

miiRebT metad sa-

Wiro informacias, romelic

Tqvens karieras sasikeTod

waadgeba, Tumca es informacia

praqtikulad unda gamoiyenoT.

saswori _ am kviraSi

nu gamoiCenT ambicurobas

da sakuTar Tavze

nurc zedmet pasuxismgeblobas

aiRebT.

morieli _ nebismier

umniSvnelo wvrilmans

seriozulad miudeqiT,

raTa uyuradRebobis gamo sabediswero

Secdomebi ar dauSvaT.

mSvildosani _ SesaZlebelia,

saqmiani ur-

TierTobebi droebiT damuxruWdes

da iZulebiT cvlilebebis

gakeTebac mogiwioT.

nu aboboqrdebiT da partniorebs

nu daupirispirdebiT.

Txis rqa _ iyaviT aqtiuri,

originaluri da

nebismier urTierTobebSi

gulwrfeloba gamoiCineT, radgan

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi

Tqvens garSemomyofebs gauCndebaT

survili TqvenTan urTierToba

gawyviton.

merwyuli _ am kviraSi

Tqveni yuradReba

mTlianad ojaxur problemebze

gadaerTveba. es ki samsaxurebriv

saqmeebs droebiT

ukan gadaswevs.

Tevzebi _ mimdinare

kviraSi `dasajdomad~

namdvilad ver moicliT

da mTel Tqvens energias axal

da amasTan, saintereso ideebis

ganxorcielebaze daxarjavT.

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