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biZina ivaniSvili:

`Cvens oponentebs moveqceviT

ara ise, rogorc imsaxureben,

aramed ise, rogorc imsaxurebs

Cveni qveyana, qarTveli

xalxi, Cveni kultura.~

nika janjRava, polkovniki: Cven unda gavake-

ToT yvelaferi, rom aseTma tipaJebma, rogoric

aris baCana, daTa da, rac mTavaria, miSa, yvelam unda

agos pasuxi kanonis winaSe.

`saakaSvili warsulia... saqarTvelo ki

ukan, warsulSi, arasodes dabrundeba~

manana biwaZe-miqelaZe: prezidenti saakaSvili

unda gadadges, xolo ` nacionaluri moZraoba~

politikuri rukidan unda gaqres!

kaxa kaxiSvili: vvaraudob, 2013 wlis

5 ianvars saprezidento arCevnebi gaimarTeba

hamlet WipaSvili: Cadenili danaSaulisTvis Tuki

saakaSvili ar davsajeT, saqarTvelo fexze ver dadgeba!

soso manjaviZe: `nacionaluri moZraoba~

moralurad da ideologiurad unda ganadgurdes!

axalaiam ramdenime TanamSromeli

yelamde miwaSi Caaflvevina _

eseni vanos specrazmelebi iyvneno...

petre mamraZe: amerikelebma saakaSvilis

dasaSoSmineblad `diplomatiuri cocxebi~

da `diplomatiuri xelketebi~ gamoiyenes...

`qarTuli ocneba~ `nacmoZraobis~ panaSvidze: _

viziarebT Tqvens mwuxarebas arCevnebSi damarcxebis gamo...


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saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

redaqtoris

sveti

zogisTvis 1

oqtomberi arCevnebSigamarjvebis

dRea, piradad

CemTvis qar-

Tveli xalxis

mier gasuli saukunis

90-ian

wlebSi dawyebuli

erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebeli

brZolis gagrZeleba.

zogisTvis 1 oqtomberi xelisuflebis

Secvlis dRea, piradad

CemTvis ucxoelTa mier marTuli

Sinauri dampyroblebisgan saqarTvelos

ganTavisuflebis mcdeloba.

mcdelobao imitom vambob, rom

is, rac moxda, jer mxolod dasawyisia

da mTavari brZolebi win

gviZevs.

_ politikaSi imitom, movedi,

rom samSoblo mekargebodao, _

brZana batonma biZina ivaniSvilma.

1 oqtomberi dasakargad ganwiruli

samSoblos dabrunebisTvis

brZolis pirveli etapia.

warmoudgeneli gmiroba Caidina

qarTvelma xalxma 1 oqtombers,

Tumca mas bolomde gamarjvebis

saSualeba mainc ar misces da

sadRac Sua gzaze gaaCeres _

kvlav moipares xmebi, gaayalbes,

gadaweres, gadmoweres Sedegebi

da qveyana orxelisuflebianobis-

Tvis gaswires, rac igivea qveyana

asafeTqeblad gamzadebul naRmze

Sesva. erT qarqaSSi ori xmali ar

Caidebao, _ naTqvamia.

Cven axla gvaiZuleben, rogorme

CavtenoT ori xmali erT qarqaSSi,

Tanac im situaciaSi, roca

naRmze vzivarT da erTma mkveTrma

moZraobam, SeiZleba, haerSi agvitanos.

situacia, romelSic dRes vimyofebiT,

Zalian hgavs 1991-92

wlebSi ganviTarebul movlenebs,

roca dinebis sawinaaRmdegod

curvis braldebiT ganaCeni gamogvitanes

da damoukideblobisa da

Tavisuflebis gzaze Semdgari saqarTvelo

isev da isev ugunuri

qarTvelebis xeliT dagvangrevines.

maSin dawyebuli omi saqarTvelos

winaaRmdeg jer ar damTavrebula...

vaxtang xarCilava

vveesaubrreebiT baton

petre mamraZes

`saerTo gazeTi~

mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava

gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~

mis: Tbilisi, aRmaSeneblis 164;

tel.: 2 14 40 19; 2 34 28 97

_ batono petre, `nacionalurma moZraobam~

dedaqalaqi mTlianad waago, magram

regionebSi warmatebebs miaRwia. ram gamoiwvia

aseTi marcxi, yofila ki aseTi SemTxvevebi

Tundac sxva qveynebSi?

_ aseTi SemTxvevebi yofila Zvel mahmadianur

qveynebSi, rodesac qalaqebSi

cxovrobda elita, Zalauflebas ki inarCunebda

xelisufali provinciebidan mosuli

meomari tomebis saSualebiT. es Zvel dro-

Si, iyo aseT SemTxvevebi agreTve samxreT

amerikis qveynebSi diqtatoruli reJimis

dros.

faqtobrivad, aseT SemTxvevebSi, xelisufalni

eyrdnobodnen im Zalas provinciebSi,

romelTac informacia qveynis mdgomareobaze

ar misdiodaT. ase moxda CvenSic.

soflad mcxovrebi adamiani arafriT ar

gaxlavT naklebi qalaqad macxovrebelze,

garda imisa, rom informaciis naklebobas

ganicdis. magaliTisaTvis getyviT, rodesac

marokoSi socializmi damyarda, momTabare

tomebi Sediodnen socialistur partiaSi,

mTeli tomi msxverplSewirvac xdeboda, da

ase uerTdebodnen mmarTvel partias. sxva-

TaSoris, samxreT amerikaSi momxdara isic,

rom diqtatorebs gadautaniaT dedaqalaqebi

im qalaqebSi, romelTac ufro endobodnen.

ase rom, msgavsi raRacebi moxda Cven-

Tanac, Tumca, saakaSvils yvelaferi Seutrialda

piriqiT, fuWad Caiara misma mcdelobebma.

ar unda daviviwyoT erTi mTavari, Cven

xelisuflebas, gamzadebuli darCa masobrivi

gayalbebis seriozuli manqana, romelic

mcire, provinciul adgilebSi aamuSaves.

yvelgan ar imuSava am meTodma.

isic nu dagvaviwydeba, rom sruliad

araTanabar pirobebSi momdinareobda winasaarCevno

kampania da rac mTavaria mTeli es

wlebi, sadac iyo xelisufalTa gavlena,

miuxedavad samarTliani arCevnebisa, iq mainc

moeqca xalxi `nacebis~ gavlenaSi. amas

daemata isic, rom arCevnebi dainiSna orSabaTs,

samuSao dRes, riTac am mTavrobam moicila

is amomrCeveli, vinc maTze ganawyenebuli

iyo da maT xmas ar miscemda. aba er-

Ti scodnodaT rom ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi

qarTvelebi `nacionalebs~ aZlevdnen xmas

ase moiqceodnen? piriqiT, did fulsac daxarjavdnen,

karg organizaciasac gaukeTebdnen

da yvelafers gaakeTebdnen imisaTvis,

rom maTi xma ar dakarguliyo, kargad

icodnen rogori protestia maT mimarT

qarTul diasporebSi da Camoiciles. sul

amboben, rom 1 milionamde saqarTvelos moqalaqea

aqedan wasuli, ucxoeTSi maTi

ricxvi ki 40 000 mde daiyvanes. arCevneb-

Si `biZina ivaniSvili _ qarTulma ocnebam~

ver aiRo xmebis ori mesamedi anu sakonstitucio

umravlesoba. rom ara amdeni xelisSemSleli

faqtori, dRes mas 100-ze

meti adgili eqneboda parlamentSi.

_ raSi SeuSlis es xels `qarTuli

ocnebis~ gunds?

_ es xels SeuSlis imaSi, rom SeiZleba

ver moxerxdes axali saparlamento res-

publikis wyobaze gadasvla, konstituciuri

cvlilebebi, prezidentis impiCmenti da

a.S. Tumca, is rac `qarTulma ocnebam~ SeZlo,

marTlac daujerebelia. prezidentma

saakaSvilma Tavad gamoacxada, rom gadadis

opoziciaSi, amas aravin ar eloda.

informacias ver vamowmeb, magram aris

varaudi, rom maT darwmunebaSi am meTodiT

wasvlaze, usisxlod yvelafris gadabarebaze,

didi roli Seasrules amerikelebma,

xatovnad rom vTqvaT, maT `diplomatiuri

cocxebi~ da`diplomatiuri xelketebi~

gamoiyenes saakaSvilis dasarwmuneblad.

isic minda davZino rom aSS-is elCi

iyo is erTaderTi diplomati Cvens qveyanaSi,

romelic elCad dainiSna saqarTveloSi,

Camovida da prezidenti saakaSvili

mas ar Sexvda.

_ risi SiSi hqonda saakaSvils?

_ yvelafris, racionalurad amas kaci

ver gaigebs, magram me kargad vicnob

prezidents da mjera, rom is kargad

mixvda vin iyo es pirovneba. iyo aseve

erTi SemTxvevac, roca evropidan Camovida

seriozuli politikuri figura, romelmac

mas Secdomebsa Tu araswor qme-

debebze miuTiTa. Tumca, es xdeboda absoluturad

koreqtulad. saRamos is saakaSvilma

dapatiJa sadilze sxva politikur

figurebTan erTad, Tumca, es pirovneba misive

brZanebiT saRamos vaxSamze ar SeuSves!

saakaSvils sastikad eSinia simarTlis. aseve

daiTxova aqedan hiter bodeni _ romlis

atanac ar hqonda. es sruli sigiJeebia, magram

faqtia!

_ hilari klintoni, arCevnebis Semdgom,

esaubra rogorc biZina ivaniSvils,

aseve, saakaSvils, xom ar iyo es garkveulwilad

rekomendaciebi aSS-s mxridan?

_ CvenTan, sazogadoebis did nawil-

Si, damkvidrda mcdari Sexeduleba da

termini _`vaSintonis obkomi~, romelic

garkveul rekomendaciebs sTavazobs

Cvens qveyanas. es gaxlavT sruliad WeSmaritebas

acdenili azri. aSS konstituciis

Sesabamisad, eubneba Tavis partniorebs,

rom me vicav am wesebs Tu normaluri

urTierToba gvinda, magram Tu

mas vinme eubneba, rom surs iyos am qveynis

megobari, iyos natoSi da a.S. da

amavdroulad aris avtoritari _ aseTi

urTierToba maTTvis miuRebelia!

_ kote kublaSvilma ganacxada, rom

Cvens mosamarTles Sexvda `ocnebis~

warmomadgeneli ojaxSi da ar davuSvebT,

rom Cvens patiosan da miukerZoebel sasamarTloze

vinmem iqonios gavlenao. vinme

kidev fiqrobs, rom dRes saqarTveloSi sasamarTlo

miukerZoebelia?

_ Zmebi kublaSvilebi arian didi

damnaSaeveebi, oriveni. sasamarTlo

sistema wlebis ganmavlobaSi iyo sadisturi

sistemis sayrdeni, romelic

morCilad, laparakis gareSe, asrulebda

prokuraturisa da Sss-s nebismieri

gadawyvetilebas. saqme mivida im kazusamde,

rom gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni

dgeboda 0,1 procentze naklebi qveyanaSi!

totalitarul reJimSi, breJnevis

dros iyo 20-22 procenti. ucxoelebi

aRniSnavdnen, rom qveyanaSi patimrebi

mzad arian daibralon nebismier

braldeba, raTa aicilon sastiki mopyroba

cixeebSi. da amas yvelafers kublaSvili

xels afarebda da reagirebas ar axdenda.

is gadaiqca seriozul damnaSaved,

amitom sul male, misi da misi Zmis Cadenili

saqmeebi Ria msjelobis sagani gaxdeba.

Zmebi mravlad iyvnen `nacionalebis~ xelisuflebaSi:

kublaSvilebi, axalaiebi,

qardavebi _ ar iyo es klanuri midgoma?

ver xedavda amas `patiosani~ sasamarTlo?

kaxa benduqiZem ganacxada arCevnebis

Semdeg, opoziciam imitom gaimarjva saqar-

gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.

SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.

informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba

SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.

Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.

regist. #202375349; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-158

TveloSi, rom saakaSvilma daamtkica, rom

demokratiuli qveyana aaSenao... Tavad benduqiZe

aris is pirovneba, romelmac saqar-

Tvelos didi zarali da ziani miayena. me

mafrTxilebdnen rusi politologebi, rom

am adamians, arcerTi dRe ar uwarmoebia

biznesi ruseTSi, mxolod da mxolod

qrTamiT iSova fuli.

_ rogoria ucxoeli politikosebisa

amerikelebma saakaSvilis dasaSoSmineblad

`diplomatiuri cocxebi~ da

`diplomatiuri xelketebi~ gamoiyenes...

da diplomatebis azri saqarTveloSi momxdar

samTavrobo cvlilebebze?

_ isini sakmaod kmayofilebi arian

imiT, rom procesebi mSvidobianad warimar-

Ta, `qveynis SeSlili diqtatori~ ki, ase

eZaxdnen isini saakaSvils, Tavis `sadist~

jgufTan erTad TandaTan Sordeba xelisuflebas.

ar daakleben mas qebas da didebas

imitom, rom prezidenti araprognozirebadi

pirovnebaa. konstituciiT mas 1 weli

arsebobis ufleba aqvs. Tumca, davinaxeT,

rom TanamSromlobisaTvis isini ukve

aqcents akeTeben ivaniSvilze da mas xvdebian.

_ rogor SeiZleba ganviTardes politikuri

procesebi axlo momavalSi Cvens

qveyanaSi? 1 weli kvlav darCeba saakaSvili

prezidentad? xom ar elodeba qveyanas politikuri

krizisi?

_ konstituciiT, momavali wlis oqtombramde,

mas darCenis ufleba aqvs. qveyanaSi

politikuri krizisi ar amgonia moxdes,

radganac saakaSvilis yofil xelisuflebas

amis survili ukve aRar aqvs. amis

Taobaze ukve ganacxades bokeriamac da baqraZemac.

aqve minda davZino, rom baqraZes da

garkveul jgufs parlamentarebisas, rom

ar gaetexaT parlamentaris fici, qveyanaSi

`sadisturi sistema~ ver iarsebebda da 12,5

miliardi dolari sagareo vali qveyanas ar

daugrovdeboda. umZimesi biujeti daaxvedres

axal xelisuflebas. Tu Seecdeba yo-

fili xelisufleba politikuri krizisis

Seqmnas qveyanaSi, ufro uares dReSi Cavardebian.

cixis kadrebis Cvenebis Semdeg

ucxoeli politikosebi xSirad meubnebodnen

maTze, rom nuTu ver xvdebian, rom politikurad

ukve mkvdrebi ariano? rogorc

saakaSvils ise mis gunds imdeni danaSauli

aqvT Cadenili! mjera, rom yvela isini pasuxs

ageben qveynisa da eris winaSe Cadenil

danaSaulebebze. mTavaria samoqalaqo sazogadoeba

ar modundes.

eTer kasreliSvili

am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

`saakaSvili warsulia... saqarTvelo ki

ukan, warsulSi, arasodes dabrundeba~

saqarTvelos prezidentis sasaxleSi saqarTvelos prezidents mixeil saakaSvilsa da koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“ premier-ministrobis

kandidats biZina ivaniSvils Soris pirispir Sexvedra gaimarTa.

koaliciis lideri prezidentis sasaxleSi axali xelisuflebis samuSao jgufTan erTad mivida, romelmac, paralelurad,

moqmedi mTavrobis samuSao jgufTan gamarTa Sexvedra.

moqmedi mTavrobis samuSao jgufs warmoadgenden daviT baqraZe, pavle kublaSvili, giga bokeria da gigi ugulava, xolo

koaliciis mxridan Sexvedras eswrebodnen irakli alasania, irakli RaribaSvili, daviT usufaSvili da sozar subari.

Sexvedris dasrulebis Semdeg mixeil saakaSvilma da biZina ivaniSvilma masmediis warmomadgenlebisTvis erToblivi

gancxadebebi gaakeTes.

mixeil saakaSvili:

`qarTvelma xalxma gaakeTa Tavisi

arCevani. Cven yovelTvis vambobdiT

da vityviT momavalSi, rom

Cven qarTveli xalxis arCevans

vcemT pativs. qarTveli xalxi

aris is uzenaesi moqmedi piri qveyanaSi,

romelic gansazRvravs politikur

procesebs. Cven visaubreT

da ra Tqma unda, aravisTvis

ar aris moulodneli, rom Cvens

Soris rCeba fundamenturi gansxvavebebi

Zalian bevr politikur

sakiTze, Zalian bevr erovnul sakiTxze.

magram, Cven rogorc pasuxismgeblobis

mqone xelisufleba, me rogorc prezidenti, romelic

aris konstituciis garanti, vuzrunvelyof, rom gadasvla mTavrobis

funqciebs Soris moxdes yovelgvari eqscesebis gareSe, moxdes ise

rogorc arasdros momxdara saqarTvelos istoriaSi”.

biZina ivaniSvili:

Cvens oponentebs moveqceviT ara

ise, rogorc imsaxureben, aramed ise,

rogorc imsaxurebs Cveni qveyana, qar-

Tveli xalxi, Cveni kultura.

is, rom me da Cemma gundma SevqmeniT

precendenti demokratiuli gziT

xelisuflebis Secvlis, istoriaSi

Rirseulad moixsenieba. isic, rom

movaxerxeT da mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi

yvela uRirs qcevas Cveni oponentebis

mxridan Rirseulad vpasuxobdiT.

Cveni swrafva iqneba ganuxrelad

evropisken da saqarTvelo moaxerxebs

gaxdes natos wevri. kargia, rom Cven movaxerxeT Sexvedra. kargia, rom

saakaSvilma arCevnebis Semdeg gaakeTa gancxadeba, romelic me Sevuqe.

Cveni Sexvedra imas emsaxureba, rom varT kulturuli eri da Cven

oponentebs Rirseulad veqceviT~.

replika: miuxedavad saakaSvilis maRalfardovani frazebisa, miuxedavad

kargad SefuTuli demagogiisa, faqtia, rom saakaSvili warsulia...

saqarTvelo ki ukan, warsulSi, arasodes dabrundeba.

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

liderma, biZina ivaniSvilma

mTavrobis momavali

Semadgenlobidan

umravlesoba ukve daasaxela

axal mTavrobaSi ministris

postebi ase gadanawildeba:

Sinagan saqmeTa saministro - irakli RaribaSvili;

Tavdacvis saministro - irakli alasania

(amave dros vice-premieri); iusticiis

saministro - Tea wulukiani; sasjelaRsrulebis

saministro - sozar subari.

regionuli ganviTarebisa da infrastruqturis

saministro - kaxa kalaZe (amave dros

meore vice-premieri). soflis meurneobis saministro

- daviT kirvaliZe; sportisa da

axalgazrdobis saqmeTa saministro - levan yifiani;

sagareo saqmeTa saministro - maia fanjiki-

Ze; kulturisa da ZeglTa dacvis saministro

- guram odiSaria; jandacvis saministro - amiran

gamyreliZe.

diasporas sakiTxebSi saxelmwifo ministri

- kote surgulaZe; evropul da evroatlantikur

sivrceSi integraciis sakiTxebSi saxelmwifo

ministri - aleqsi petriaSvili. reintegraciis

sakiTxebSi saxelmwifo ministri -

paata zaqareiSvili;

saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuris generalur

auditori - revaz SaviSvili; erovnuli

bankis prezidenti - nodar javaxiSvili; generaluri

prokurori - arCil kbilaSvili. gamocdebis

erovnuli centris xelmZRvaneli -

maia miminoSvili.

finanasTa, ekonomikis, ganaTlebis, garemos

dacvis, energetikisa da ltolvilTa ministrobis

kandidaturebi biZina ivaniSvils dRes

ar dausaxelebia, araferi uTqvams dasaqmebis

saxelmwifo ministrzec.

saqarTvelos parlamentis

Tavmjdomaris postze

biZina ivaniSvilma

daviT usufaSvili waradgina

ivaniSvilis TqmiT, pirveli moadgilis

postze kandidatia manana kobaxiZe. moadgileebi

ki - zviad ZiZiguri, zurab tyemalaZe da

zurab abaSiZe.

ivaniSvilma agrarul sakiTxTa komitetis

xelmZRvanelis postze gigla agulaSvili waradgina;

adamianis uflebaTa dacvis da samoqalaqo

integraciis komiteti - eka beselia;

ganaTlebis, mecnierebis da kulturis komie-

teti - vano kiRuraZe; garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi

resursebis komiteti - gia cagareiSvili;

dargobrivi ekonomikisa da ekonomikuri

politikis komiteti - nodar xaduri; diasporisa

da kavkasiis sakiTxTa komiteti - gubaz

sanikiZe; evropasTan integraciis komiteti -

viqtor doliZe; Tavdacvisa da uSiSroebis

komiteti - irakli sesiaSvili; iuridiul sakiTxTa

komiteti - vaxtang xmalaZe; regionuli

politikis, TviTmmarTvelobis da maRalm-

Tiani regionebis komiteti - irakli tripolski;

sagareo urTierTobaTa komiteti - Tedo

jafariZe; saproceduro sakiTxTa da wesebis

komiteti - irina imerliSvili; safinanso-sabiujeto

komiteti _ daviT onofriSvili;

sportisa da axalgazrdul saqmeTa komiteti

- leri xabelovi; janmrTelobis dacvisa da

socialur sakiTxTa komiteti - dimitri xundaZe.

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4 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

msoflio presis mixedviT

saqarTvelom cvlilebebs

dauWira mxari. Tumca arCevnebisSemdgom

myife simSvides safrTxe

emuqreba _ `qarTuli ocnebis~

momxreebi aprotesteben

arCevnebis Sedegebs zogierT

raionSi, uteven saolqo komisiis

Senobebs, cdiloben gaaumjobeson

koaliciis Sedegebi.

saqarTvelos parlamentis

arCevnebSi ivaniSvilis moulodneli

da upirobo gamarjveba

_ es aris saqarTveloSi axali

epoqis dasawyisi da susti

demokratiis wingadadgmuli

warmatebuli nabiji, wers espanuri

El Pais. `TviTon faqti,

rom saqarTvelom moaxerxa opoziciis

arCeva da misTvis Zalauflebis

gadacema, yofili sab-

WoTa kavSiris respublikebis

istoriaSi saetapo movlenaa. am

movlenis saTanadod Sefasebaa

saWiro, miT umetes Tu gavixsenebT

axlaxan gamarTul arCevnebs

belorusSi, sadac luka-

Senkos oponentebma erTi mandatic

ki ver miiRes~, _ vkiTxulobT

werilSi.

`qarTuli ocnebis~ triumfi

da saakaSvilis mier sakuTari

damarcxebis aRiareba qarTuli

demokratiis giganturi nabijia,

weren The International Herald

Tribune-Si job heningi (Center

for the Study of the Presidency

and Congress, ÑØÀ) da nino

jafariZe (jorj meisonis universitetis

globaluri politikis

kaTedris warmomadgene-

dasavleTis mediasaSualebebis warmomadgenlebmi

CaebRauWnen momxiblav

ideas, TiTqos arCevnebSi `qarTuli ocnebis~

gamarjvebis Semdeg saqarTveloSi

ruseTis gavlena gaizrdeba, wers The

Independent-is mimomxilveli marta foresti.

TumcaRa, ar Rirs ruseTis rolze

ase yuradRebis gamaxvileba, aprotestebs

avtori. saparlamento arCevnebis

Sedegebi arc ise moulodneli iyo: mar-

Talia, saakaSvili daumarcxebeli Canda,

magram saqarTvelos bevri moqalaqe da-

Rala misma avtoritarulobam da axla

maT cvlilebebi surT.

ivaniSvili pirveli ar aris, vinc saakaSvili

gamowvevis winaSe daayena, magram

adre opoziciuri partiebi susti

iyo, ar hqondaT mkafio ideologia da

Tanamimdevruli politikuri programebi.

`rac mTavaria, maT ar hqondaT fuli,

maSin, roca erTian nacionalur moZraobas

gaaCnda didi finansuri resursi,

agreTve amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis

politikuri mxardaWera~, _ wers mimomxilveli.

ivaniSvili gmiria, magram ra saWiroa

saarCevno komisiebze Seteva

li). rac moxda, yvelas sasike-

Tod waadgeba, gansakuTrebiT ki

_ qarTvel xalxs.

1-l oqtombers gamarTulma

saparlamento arCevnebma daasrula

daSinebis politika: xalxi

xelaxla cdilobs Tavis

damkvidrebas. ra roli akisria

am saqmeSi ivaniSvilis finansebs?

avtorTaAazriT, ucxoeTSi

mopovebuli damoukidebeli finansebi

politikuri cvlilebebis

Sansi iyo: `saqarTveloSi

politikuri proeqtebis dafinanseba

adgilobrivi, samamulo

saxsrebiT meTodurad isjeboda:

SantaJiT, sagadasaxado inspeqciis

SemowmebebiT, sabanko angariSebis

dayadaRebiT~.

ivaniSvilis gamarjveba saakaSvils

saTavisod SeuZlia ga-

saakaSvilis damarcxeba _

moZvelebuli politikuri aliansisa da

dasavleTis gardauvali ganxeTqileba

xelisuflebis gadabareba saqarTveloSi

ar aris `civ omTan~ dabruneba

ivaniSvils finansebis problema ar

hqonia _ igi bankiria. mas ar gasWirvebia

Tbilisi gareT mcxovreb eleqtoratTan

urTierToba _ is sofelSia dabadebuli.

Tuki mis oponentebs vendobiT,

mas arc ruseTTan unda gauWirdes

kremlTan urTierTobis damyareba.

dasavleTis damkvirveblebi ar iziareben

ivaniSvilis oponentTa mosazrebas,

TiTqos kavkasiaSi sabWoTa kavSiris

aRorZineba surT. es fantaziaa da sxva

araferi. `jer erTi, saqarTveloSi

ruseTis mimarT damokidebuleba

iseTia, rom Zneli warmosadgenia

sabWoTa cxovrebis

wesis dabruneba~. ivaniSvili iZleva

mkafio dapirebas, rom misi

kursi evrokavSirisa da nato-s

wevrobaa. meore mxriv _ rusulqarTul

urTierTobebSi aucilebelia

mniSvnelovani komerciuli

sakiTxebis mogvareba.

`es yvelaferi ar hgavs `civi

omis~ periodis dabrunebas~,

_ varaudobs avtori. magaliTad,

saakaSvilis damarcxeba SegviZlia ganvixiloT,

rogorc moZvelebuli politikuri

aliansisa da dasavleTis gardauvali

ganxeTqileba. `saqarTvelo ar aris

erTaderTi evropuli qveyana, romelsac

uaxloes wlebSi SesaZloa, bevri ruse-

Teli megobari dasWirdes~, _ vkiTxulobT

werilSi.

Tuki amieridan saqarTveloSi mimdinare

politikuri procesi ufro Ria,

dabalansebuli da frTxili gaxdeba, es

iqneba ara kremlis an kapitoliumis

borcvis, aramed TviTon qarTvelebis

damsaxureba.

The Independent

moiyenos: igi opoziciaSi SesaniSnavad

grZnobs Tavs. amasTan,

`Zalauflebis berketebis ganawileba

_ normaluri movlenaa.

swored es sWirdeba saqarTvelos~,

_ aseTia werilis avtor-

Ta azri.

saqarTveloSi demokratiuli

politikuri nebis aRorZineba

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis

gamarjvebac aris _ `xelisuflebis

mSvidobiani gadacema

gaamyarebs regionul stabilurobas

da mniSvnelovan precedentad

iqceva.

dabolos, `qarTuli ocnebis~

gamarjveba ruseTelTa gamarjvebacaa:

axla putins gau-

Wirdeba, saqarTvelo warmoadginos

rogorc ruseTis mteri

qveyana.

multimiliarderi ivaniSvili

premieri iqneba, xolo saakaSvili,

romelsac usasrulod

surda xelisuflebaSi yofna da

misi partia _ erTiani nacionaluri

moZraoba opoziciaSi midian.

uaxloesi erTi weliwadi

arc ise dalxinebuli iqneba,

wers Die WelT. `darCenil dro-

Si moqmed prezidents SeuZlia,

TviTon warudginos parlaments

premieris kandidatura. konstituciaSi

Setanili cvlilebebiT,

romlebic 2013 wlis saprezidento

arCevnebis Semdeg amoqmeddeba,

saqarTvelo xdeba saparlamento

respublika da premier-ministrs

qveynis yvelaze gavleniani

politikuri figuris uflebamosilebebs

aniWebs~.

yofili xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi

irwmunebian, rom

moqmedi prezidenti srulad dauWers

mxars premieris axlandel

kandidaturas.

ivaniSvili dahpirda xalxs,

rom igi qveyanaSi `sainterso

sainvesticio garemos~ da uamrav

samuSao adgils Seqmnis.

rac Seexeba dapirebul ufaso

samedicino momsaxurebas, ivani-

Svilis TqmiT es programa biujetis

deficitis pirobebSic

amoqmeddeba: igi mzad aris, saa-

saparlamento arCevnebSi opoziciis

gamarjveba mixeil saakaSvilma aRiara,

Tumca `kudianebze nadirobis~

niSnebi azaralebs xelisuflebis demokratiulad

gadacemis process. bi-

Zina ivaniSvilma ganacxada, rom saministroebisTanamSromelTa

80 procents

SeinarCunebs,

magram ministrebs

gadaayenebs. `xalxs

eSinia~, _ ambobs

axalgazrda saxelmwifo

moxele. vrceldeba

aTasnairi

Woric. ministrs,

romelic Tanamdebobas

datovebs, ukve

emuqrebian telefoniT.

`daaRwevs Tu ara Tavs saqarTvelo

revanSizms? amis absoluturi garantia

ar arsebobs~, _ aRniSnavs werilis

avtori. am dReebSi opoziciurma

gazeTma gamoaqveyna Tbilisis im

cixis 316 TanamSromlis sia, romelic

wamebis skandalis mizezi gaxda.

aseTi moqmedebebi gvaZlevs safuZvels

vifiqroT, rom sazogadoebis garkveuli

nawili ar endoba gamoZiebas, romelic

warmavalma xelisuflebam daiwyo.

`yvelaze cudi varianti iqneba,

Tuki xalxi TviTonve aRasrulebs

marTlmsajulebas~, _ acxadeben

Human Rights Watch-is warmomadgenlebi.

`bolodroindeli movlenebi gviCvenebs,

rom xelisuflebas gadacema

ar iqneba iseTi mSvidi, rogorsac va-

misod sakuTari finansuri resursi

daxarjos.

`gamarjvebuli koalicia xmebis

xelaxla daTvlas iTxovs~,

_ aseTia The New York Times-is

werilis saTauri. `arCevnebis

Semdgomi simSvide dairRva, roca

koaliciam saeWvod miiCnia

xmebis daTvlis Sedegebi. zogierT

raionSi aqtivistebma im

SenobaSi SeRweva scades, sadac

biuletenebs iTvlidnen.

koaliciis liderma biZina

ivaniSvilma mouwoda momxreebs,

Sewyviton quCis aqciebi da

cvlilebebs kanonis gziT miaRwion.

msgavsi mowodebiT gamovida

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis

elCi riCard norlandi, romelic

daeswro xalxis saprotesto

gamosvlas saqarTvelos

dasavleTSi mdebare qalaq zugdidSi.

garda amisa, ivaniSvilis

momxreebSi popularulia mimavali

xelisuflebis maRali

rangis moxeleTa pasuxisgebaSi

micemis idea. `isini unda wardgnen

sasamarTlos winaSe, unda

upasuxon SekiTxvebs. Tu

brali ar miuZRviT, aravin dasjis

maT. dae, xalxma dasvas SekiTxvebi

da maTze pasuxic mii-

Ros~.

raudobdnen maSin, roca prezidentma

saakaSvilma damarcxeba aRiara. arCevnebis

Sedegebi ar aris saboloo,

radgan `qarTulma ocnebam~ darRvevebis

gamo mravali sarCeli Seitana.

garda amisa, mimavalma xelisuflebam

revanSis safrTxe

saqarTveloSi

`qarTuli ocneba~, damatebiTi 6-7

adgilis mosapoveblad, im saarCevno

ubnebis blokirebaSi daadanaSaula,

sadac xmis daTvla mimdinareobda.

`qarTulma ocnebam~ romc miiRos is

7 xma, romelzec pretenzias acxadebs,

kvalificiuri umravlesobisTvis

(100 adgili parlamentSi) sakmarisi

mainc ar aris.

biZina ivaniSvili premier-ministria.

arastabiluroba, savaraudod,

2013 wlis oqtombramde gastans _

swored im dros amoqmeddeba reforma,

romelic premieris uflebamosilebebs

zrdis da prezidents parlamentis

daTxovnis uflebas arTmevs.

Liberation

mimoxilva moamzada g. WavWavaZem.


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

TiTqmis 3 wlis win mTeli

saqarTvelo gaognebuli Sescqeroda

telekompania `kavkasiaSi~

uprecedento provokacias, romelic

arc meti da arc naklebi,

pirdapir eTerSi 8 adamianis dapatimrebiT

dasrulda!

saprovokacio Tema vinme

`mwerlis~ erekle deisaZis wignis

`saidumlo sirobis~ garSemo

ganviTarda, romlis prezentaciac

ilias universitetSi moewyo

da romelsac ukve dRevandeli

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi,

magaliTad `respublikeli~ daviT

zurabiSvili eswrebodnen.

axla aRar gavimeoreb, ra

ewera `deisaZis sirobaSi~, magram

am faqtiT aRSfoTebuli sazogadoeba

da studentobis erTi

nawili quCaSi rom gamoefina es

yvelas kargad gvaxsovs. isinic

kargad gvaxsovs, rogori mkveTri

pozicia daafiqsira saqarTvelos

sapatriarqom deisaZis

mxridan mariam RvTismSoblis Seuracxyofaze,

magram yvelaze

mniSvnelovani is iyo, rom am

faqtiT aRSfoTebuli samRvdelo

pirebi, rogor SeuerTdnen

saprotesto aqciebs. metic,

dRes ukve deputati eka beselia

dapatimrebuli 8 qristianis

mxardamWer aqciaSi monawileobda

amaSi da gaognebuli meubneboda:

`es ra hqna `kavkasiam~, pirdapir

eTerSi amdeni kaci rogor

daapatimrebina, aseTi ram saqar-

TveloSi jer ar momxdara, gaognebuli

varo. ase iyo Tu ise,

marTlmadidebluri mrwamsis

damcveli pirovneba, maT Soris

ki media holding `jorjian-Taimsis~

gamomcemeli malxaz gulaSvili,

dRemde patimrobaSi

arian!

`ho, ho, malxaz, Senma momxrem

damartya gareT, geubnebi,

ra?~ _ aseve pirdapir eTerSi

ukeTebda viRacas `daklads~ da-

To aqubardia da ar vici, saRebavis,

Tu sisxlis mowmendas lamobda

xeliT... `magas xeli ar

axloT, magas araferi dauSavebia~,

_ bolo xmaze kioda jangiraSvili

da policias Tavisi

ZmisSvilisTvis xelis gaSvebas

ubrZanebda. `ai, aman, ai, aman da

ai, am pirebma mogviwyves provokacia,

levan, ar ginda, axla Tavis

marTleba ra? Senc Cxubobdi

gareT, aRiare, ra?~ _ agrZelebda

CaSvebas `demokratiis butkidan~

aqubardia da urcxvad umtkicebda

levan CaCuas imas, rac

mas araTu ar Caudenia, aramed

studiidan arc ki ganZreula da

arc arsad gasula!

rogorc TviTmxilvelebma miambes,

im avadsaxsenebel dRes

2010 wlis 7 maiss marTlmadideblobis

damcvelebi ki ara, piriqiT,

telekompaniis TanamSromlebi

iqnevdnen xel-fexs da daundoblad

urtyamdnen araTu

stumrebs, aramed ezoSi momlodine

samRvdelo pirebsac. gansakuTrebiT

ki, Turme, Zalian aqtiurobdnen

nino jangiraSvilis

saerTo gazeTi

telekompania `kavkasiis~ mesveurebo,

yvelaferi unda gaakeToT imisTvis,

rom marTlmadideblobas

gamosarClebuli 9 qarTveli axalgazrda

droulad gamouSvan cixidan...

operatori ZmisSvili, Jurnalisti

aleko elisaSvili da sxva

operatorebi! magram, rogorc

yovelTvis xdeboda, marTlmadideblur

qveyanaSi swored marTlmadidebeli

adamianebis uflebebi

Selaxa satanurma `nacmoZraobam~,

maTze damynobilma e.w. `damoukidebelma~

mediam da im sasamarTlom,

romelsac `damoukidebeli~

fasadurad hqvia. Torem,

rac sasamarTlo sxdomebze

movismine da vnaxe, calke

ganxilvis Temaa.

mokled, `nacmoZraobam~,`Tavisuflebis

institutma~

da telekompania

`kavkasiam~ kidev

erTxel Cagvafur-

Txes qarTvelebs

rwmenaSi, xelebic

pilatesaviT saswrafod

daibanes _

Cven arafer SuaSi

varT, magram imas

sad gaveqceT, 9 janmrTeli,

9 patrioti

da 9 ojaxidan gasuli

marTlmadidebeli

qristiani kaci maTi gamoisobiT

dRemde rom

ukanono patimrobaSi

arian da maT xan sindisis

patimrebs da xanac

religiis damcvel patmrebad

rom ixseniebs

sazogadoebis udidesi

nawili?

me Tu vinme mkiTxavs _ dResve

da dauyovnebliv unda gaanTavisuflon

es adamianebi, radgan

maT araferi dauSavebiaT garda

imisa, rom Tavis droze yvelas

da yvelafers TavTavisi saxeli

daarqves! maT aravin ucemiaT _

piriqiT ki iyo, maT aravisTvis

Seuracxyofa ar miuyenebiaT _

piriqiT ki, ramdenjerac gnebavT.

rac Seexeba,

gazeT `jorjian

Taimsis~ gamomcemlismalxazgulaSvilisdapatimrebas

da misTvis

6 wliT Tavisuflebis

aRkveTas _ esec

gaugonari

cinizmia,

radgan malxazs mxolod

imisTvis miusajes,

rom `nac.moZraobis~

mier dadgenil, antimarTlmadideblur

zRvars gadaabija da

Tavisi samSoblos religiisTvis,

araTu sakuTari, aramed Svilis

sicocxlec safrTxis qveS daayena!

maxsovs, rogor qilikobdnen

maSin araTu Jurnalistebi, aramed

xelisufalnic, roca malxazi

ambobda:

`Svilis mokvliT da

gaupatiurebiT damemuqrnen,

bavSvs manqaniT

aekidnen da masac

igiveTi daemuqrneno~.

axla?

axla xom cxadad dainaxa yvelam,

rom amgvar `mesijebs~ naqebi

policia `reformirebuli cixe~

da iq momuSave faSistebi

tyuilubralod ar agzavnidnen?

anda, vin unda agos pasuxi

imaze, rom ukve meramdened `Tavisuflebis

institutis~ jojoebi

da virTxebi _ Cvenive qveyanaSi

erTgvar normebs gviweseben

religiaze, qcevaze, seqsualur

orientaciaze da zogadad, cxovrebis

wesebze?

ratom xdeba, rom Tuki vinme

maTi `sastavidan~ Caiwixla, egreve

quCaSi gamorbian da tolerantobaze

gvikiTxaven leqciebs?

anda ratom xdeba, rom marTladideblur

qveyanaSi marTlmadideblebis

garda yvela religiuri

aRmsareblis uflebebi aris

xolme daculi maTi mxridan, mipasuxon

dRes ukve deputatma

daviT zurabiSvilma, Tina xida-

Selma da gubaz sanikiZem (romlebic

maSin `kavkasiaSi~ mivardnen

da brtyel-brtyeli frazebiT

dagvmoZRvres _ `ucodinarobis~

bralia yvelaferi, `ar unda

SerCeT am adamianebs da unda

daisajono~). ratom ixdis

grZelvadian patimrobas 9 qarTveli,

romelTa `braldebaSi~ 32

`mowmidan~ 2 pirovneba polici-

is TanamSromeli iyo, xolo danarCenebi

ki telekompania `kavkasiis~

TanamSromlebi da `Tavisuflebis

institutis~, jojoebi?

Tanac, sasamarTlo sxdomebze

Jurnalist-bralmdeblebma

`plastinka~ rom Secvales da

Tavs dazaralebulad ukve aRar

Tvlidnen, raSia saqme? gamces

pasuxi deputatma gubaz saniki-

Zem. ratom da visi gamoisobiT

gauskda guli da mokvda 147-e

skolis me-12 klasis moswavlis

patimar koba gurCianis mama? mipasuxos

`jangiram~, `aqum~ da

gubazam ratom izrdeboda umamod

amdeni wlis ganmavlobaSi

patimari levan CaCuas axalSobili

Svili? ratom ar gaiTvaliswina

mosamarTle miler xarebavam

yvela e.w. `dazaralebulis~, am

SemTxvevaSi nino jangiraSvilis,

daviT aqubardias, aleko elisaSvilis

mier ukve sasamarTloSi

gaJRerebuli WeSmariti Cveneba

am patimarTagan CvenTvis aravis

Seuracxyofa ar mouyenebia, ar

dagvinaxavs, vin daiwyo provokacia

da a.S. anda, dRes gana, samarTliani

ar iqneba, igive telekompania

`kavkasiis~ e.w. `demokratiis

mWedelma~ Semadgenlobam

Tavad moiTxovos sakuTari dana-

Saulis sakompensaciod 9 qarTveli

marTlmadideblis upirobo

gaTavisufleba?

aRsaniSnavia isic, rom dRes

patimrobaSi myofi patimrebis

advokati, saCxeris deputati

(`qarTuli ocnebidan~) manana

kobaxiZe gaxldaT da minda masac

mivmarTo:

q-no manana! iqneb dadga

is dro, roca yovelgvari

`saqmis gadasinjvis~

gareSe, rwmenisTvisdapatimrebulni

gareT, anu saxleb-

Si unda daabrunos xelisuflebam?!movuwodeb

yvela wesier Jurnalists

dResve, am wu-

Tidan movTxovoT axal

xelisuflebas, Cveni

kolegis malxaz gulaSvilis

da zogi Tanamoazris

upirobo ganTavisufleba.

dResve, am

wuTidan mivmarToT saqarTvelossapatriarqos,

raTa maT xma aimaRlon

da amjerad uk-

ve kategoriulad moiTxovon

axali xelisuflebisgan

qristes-

Tvis wamebulTa upirobo

gaTavisufleba.

rac SeexebaT telekompania

`kavkasiis~ xelmZRvanel-wamyvanebs

_ nino jangiraSvils, romelic

TiTiT mianiSnebda policielebs

_ `ai, es daiWireTo~, daviT

aqubardias (`ho, ho, levan

ai, im biWma damartya, ar ginda

axla Tavis marTleba~) da aleko

elisaSvils (romelic `gaxeuli~

mTvrali iyo da cecxlze

navTs asxamda), dResve gamoyon

Tavi TavianTi `butkidan~ da bodiSi

mouxadon qarTvel sazogadoebas

2010 wlis 7 maisis maTive

dagegmili da ganxorcielebuli

provokaciis gamo. bodiSi

moixadon im 9 patimris da maTi

ojaxis winaSe, vinc ase gulcivad,

ase uRmerTod da mavanTa

gulis mosagebad gauSves gldanis

da rusTavis sapatimroebSi.

imeds vitoveb, rom yvela

jansaRad moazrovne: adamiansac

igive moTxovna eqneba da amitom,

sindisis patimrebi:

levan CaCua

malxaz gulaSvili

SoTa afxaiZe

daviT SalamberiZe

avTandil zumbaZe

zviad bliaZe

giorgi gabedava,

rati maisuraZe

jaba gurCiani

araugvianes 1 kvirisa, saxlebSi

unda dabrundnen!

aqve, davZen imasac, rom mar-

Tlmadidebeli religiis damcveli,

amJamad ki patimari daviT

SalamberiZe, sasuliero seminariis

I kursis studenti gaxldaT

maSin, roca daapatimres!

agreTve, sasuliero seminariis

I kursis studenti iyo giorgi

gabedavac! hoda, Zalianac upriani

iqneba seminariis reqtoratma

sapatriarqos advokat besarion

qarcivaZesTan uswrafesad

gaiaron konsultacia (batoni

besarioni zemoTCamoTvlili

studentebis advokati gaxldaT

_ i.g.) da maTi udanaSaulo studentebis

gaTavisuflebis moTxovniT,

aseve swrafad daayenon Suamdgomloba

axal xelisuflebas-

Tan.

irine gogosaSvili

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6 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

arcTu didi xnis telebazarze

sruliad ucnobi axalagazrdebis

gundi gamoCnda,

`info 9~ _ ewera mikrofonze

da morCa, arc cnobili

gvarebi, arc saxelebi, arc

saxeebi... aravin icoda, rodis

da vis waaswrebdnen misTvis

arasaxarbielo faqqtze. xsenebuli

gundi imdenad operatiulad

moqqmedebda, imdenad daukarga

mosveneba manamde arxeinad

myof bevr metnaklebad

wonian pirs, rom meTvalyureebic

ki miuCines, romlebic

landiviT dasdevdnen maT nakvalevs.

fsiqqologiurma terorma

rom ver gaWWra, arc

fizikur dapirispirebas moeridnen,

arada, isini mxolod

profesiul movaleobas asrulebdnen

pirnaTlad da meti

araferi. am gundma, faqqtobrivad,

samoqqalaqqo gmirobis

tolfasi qqmedeba Caidina _

isini iyvnen yvelgan, sadac ki

rame gafaCundeboda. saidan

gamoCdnen es Tavdauzogavi

bavSvebi, sad iyvnen aqqamde, an

visebi ariano, _ ainteresebda

xalxs. bunebrivicaa, sazogadoebas

didi xania enatreba

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iseTebi, Savs rom

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revoluciamdec~ igive

iyo, rac mas Semdeg, igivea

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qqalbatoni luba iyo,

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`arwivad~ da maTsaviT

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arc aseTi laRebi

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warmoebas da saqqmis profesionalurad

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sainformacio saagento `info-

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teleJurnalisti qalbatoni

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realobisTvis e.w `dabalansebuli

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_ aq mTavaria, vin ra Sinaarss

debs am terminSi, romelic

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demokratiam. yvela qveyanas da

yvela sociums Tavisi mimarTuleba

aqvs dabalansebul JurnalistikaSi.

magaliTad, skandinaviis

qveynebSi gazeTebi

rom gamodis, yvelam icis, romelia

`memarcxene~ da romeli

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britanuli modeli, rodesac

erT gazeTSi orive pozicia

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me ar mgonia, `dabalansebuli

Jurnalistika~ imas

gulisxmobdes, rom meore

mxare arsebobs Tu ar arsebobs,

Jurnalistma mainc gamo-

igonos da mainc gaa-

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xSirad, rom meore

mxridan arc erTi

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rom Sen xar

marginali. ki, batono,

magram maSin bazari

unda ganTavisufldes,

iyos yvela

mimarTulebis da

me, rogorc mayurebeli,

erTsac Sevxedav,

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azrs ase gamovitan.

rodesac

quCaSi gaval da or

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mxarec movismino,

iseTi, romelic imdenac

cotaa imitom,

rom, vTqvaT, marginalur azrs

warmoadgens da SeiZleba verc

vipovo? _ esec gamigonia Jurnalistebisgan.

ase, rom, me

vfiqrob, yvelafris safuZveli

aris Tavisufleba. mere

eTikuri normac imuSavebs, dasabalansebeli

Tu ramea, isic

TavisiT dabalansdeba da a.S.

_ e.w teledabalansebaze

ras ityviT, rodesac TiTqmis

yvela e.w opoziciur televiziebSi

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erTi da igive saxeebi Canan

stumrad, vTqvaT, miSa TavxeliZe

an giga nasariZe – iqneb

ganmartoT, ras abalanseben ma-

Ti stumrobiT.

_ me, magaliTad, Zalian

msiamovnebs, roca vuyureb, ra

ususuri argumentebi aqvT da

vis saxes warmoadgenen. me

vfiqrob, nasariZem, TavxeliZem,

Ciora TaqTaqiSvilma, bevrad

meti dauSaves nacmoZraobas,

vidre mTelma opoziciurma

speqtrma erTad, imitom, rom

TavianTi cinizmiT da siZulviliT,

sazogadoebisTvis gaxdnen

odiozurebi da miuReblebi.

eseni ukve konkretuli adamianebi

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cudad moqmedebs siZulvili...

_ mgoni, marTals brZanebT...

_ 2003 welTan minda gavavlo

paraleli _ mixeil saakaSvilma

gamoacxada, ager aris

Cemi matarebeli, axla gadis,

vinc SemoaxtebiT, xom kargi,

vinc ara, darCebiT dabla da

damTavrda Tqveni ambavi, veRar

daeweviTo. 2012 welia _ biZina

ivaniSvilma Tqva, vinc `5-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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_ me vxedav.

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_ am adamians keTili

sawyisi moaqvs da, me vfiqrob,

Cveni Semdgomi ganviTareba, ai,

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iqneba damaxasiaTebeli _

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uSenebia~...

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vxedavdi, sinaTles

ver vxedavdi _ axla davinaxe.

_ mere, mogewonaT?

_ gaviare, gamoviare, ki,

momewona. rogorc amboben, nawili

gifsokardoniao, magram

rac kargadaa gakeTebuli, lamazia,

raRacebi momewona, magaliTad,

konka sadacaa, momewona.

SeiZleba, dro rom gava, kidev

momewonos raRacebi, imitom,

rom amovisunTqe am kabalisgan

da gulze aRar mawevs

simZimed nacionalebis sixarbe

da xalxis gatyavebis dauokebeli

survili, aRar aris es

problema, albaT, me imedi

maqvs. aris meore momenti, Zalian

didi xania ar gamimarjvia

da gavimarjve, vmonawileob

gamarjvebaSi da rogorc Jur-

nalisti da rogorc moqalaqe,

vgrZnob Zalian did pasuxismgeblobas.

aranairi eiforia ar

maqvs, piriqiT, Zalian mZimed

da dafiqrebuli var, rogorme

gaviaroT Rirseulad es bewvis

xidi, rom arc zedmeti mouvides

vinmes, magram arc dausjeli

darCes is, vinc amdeni xnis

ganmavlobaSi bevri adamiani gaamwara

da bevri cudi gaukeTa

qveyanas. es iqneba ekliani gza

maTTvis, vinc politikuri pasuxismgebloba

aiRo. axla gadawyvetilebebis

miRebisas,

roca amdeni gamwarebuli xalxia,

bevrad ufro Znelia

Rirsebis SenarCuneba... patara

magaliTs getyviT, moxda ise,

rom `info9-is~ Jurnalistma

`real.TV-is~ Jurnalistis Wamis

raRac kadrebi Cawera. ramdenadac

vici, bevri SeeWida,

araeTikuriao, ar SeiZleba,

Cvenc `real.TV~ xom ar gavxdebiTo,

magram, meore mxriv,

imdenad gamwarebuli hyavda im

`real.TV-s~ es Jurnalisti _

esec adamiania. ki, gadauRo,

magram ar autvirTavs... dRes

udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa Ti-

Toeul Cvenganze, rasakvirvelia,

fxizlad unda viyoT, vam-

xiloT, rac saTqmelia unda

vTqvaT, unda SevasruloT Cveni

movaleoba, magram viyoT humanuri,

ar davemsgavsoT sxvas,

ar moviqceT ise, rogorc isini

iqceodnen, ar viyoT gamwarebulis

pozaSi...

_ Tqma advilia, magram...

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sityvebi, rom gadadis

opoziciaSi, _ marTalia, es

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ras unda velodoT prezidentisgan,

romelic Tavisive

xalxis nebisa da Tavisive

mTavrobis opoziciaSi iqneba...

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mere yvelaferi iqnebi.

_ SevxedoT swored ise,

rogorc brZana, parlamentsgareT

xom hyavs gundi, ukanono,

magram Zalismieris CaTvliT,

aqvT sakmao finansuri resur


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

sic da rac mTavaria, udidesi gamocdileba

revoluciuri muxtis Seqmnisa

da gamoyenebisa, ager, Tqven brZaneT,

kadrebis sakiTxiao... me maxsovs

misi sityvebi, Tu ar vcdebi, 2007-

Si. am opozicias arafris Sno ar

aqvs, Torem, axla me rom opozicia-

Si gadavide, sam TveSi davamxob am

xelisuflebaso...

_ qarTvelebs gvaqvs SesaniSnavi

Tviseba, moTminebis unari.

_ Zalian cudi avadmyofobac rom

aRmogvaCnda mokle mexsierebis saxiT?

_ ar gvaqvs mokle mexsiereba!

oTxi weliwadi saerTod xma ar amouRia

xalxs, oTxi ki ara, rva weli

velodeT, rom raRac kargi gvenaxa _

Zalian didxans acales da bolos da

bolos, rom dainaxes amao iyo lodini,

aRar daelodnen. SeuZlebelia,

sam-oTx TveSi axali xelisuflebisgan

moiTxovon is, rac ar mouTxoviaT

aravisTvis.

_ ratom, zviad gamsaxurdias

swored 8-10 TveSi mosTxoves SeuZlebeli...

Tqven fiqrobT, rom xalxi

fsiqologiurad mzad aris imisaTvis,

rom igive aCqareba ar gamoxatos da

kvlav ar akenkos satyuara?

_ im dros sazogadoebas ar hqonda

demokratiuli cxovrebis aranairi

gamocdileba, is iyo konkretuli

istoriuli kataklizmebi da aravin

ar icoda, rogori didi pasuxismgeblobaa

istoriul procesebSi monawileobis

miReba.

dRes rasac Sehpirdnen, ra Tqma

unda, diaxac, unda Seasrulon! ucbad,

ra Tqma unda, dangreuli ver

aSendeba, magram tendencia, rom uke-

Tesisken midis saqme, ucbadve unda

davinaxoT. me rom is damenaxa miSas-

Tan, rom ukeTesisken midis, vin oxeri

iyo xmis amomRebi.

2003 weli iyo, SevardnaZesTan

rom davinaxe ukeTesobis tendencia,

aRarc politpatimari hyavda, aRarc

gatacebuli adamiani, cxinvalSi SevdiodiT

da lari larobda, gza ar

vargoda, Torem raWaSi cxinvalis

gavliT daiwyes Zveleburad siaruli,

avi iyo Tu kargi iyo, Tavisi patara

lukma yvelas hqonda, iqiT, baqo-jeihani

daiwyo, anu, im qaosSi realurad

ixateboda raRac ukeTesobisken

svlis tendencia _ imitom SemeSinda

da ar momewona amaTi ase uceb SemoWra

da imitom ar velodi did sike-

Tes revoluciiT movardnili xelisuflebisgan.

Tumca gamixardeboda,

rom maSin aRmovCeniliyavi Semcdari,

magram aRmovCndi marTali, amaT sike-

Tisken ar waiyvanes

qveyana...

dRes rom aris saubari,

qveyana kurss

xom ar Seicvliso, es

kursi amaTi mogonili

xom ar aris, SevardnaZem

maSin daiwyo,

rusuli tankebi rom

mZvinvarebda am qveyanaSi.

ise miiRo

wvrTnisa da aRWurvis

programaze da nav-

Tobsadenis proeqtze

Tanxmoba da miliardiani

investiciebi

rom gamoeparaT eg ambavi

rusebs. vin gamoiyvana

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rogor miiRes 1998 wels stambulis

samitze rusuli bazebis gayvanis gadawyvetileba,

SesaniSnavad maxsovs...

axali xelisuflebis lideris

rac momwons, esaa moTminebis unari,

goniereba da Sromis siyvaruli – es

is sami Tvisebaa, romelic dRes qar-

Tvelebs Zalian gvWirdeba. pirvelive

dRes yvela rom eiforiaSi iyo, ma-

Sinve Tqva, emociebi davZlioT, seriozuli

Sroma gvWirdebao – absoluturad

realurad afasebs movlenebs,

ar hgonia, rom raRacebi TavisiT

moxdeba, mSvenivrad icis, ra Zalisxmevaa

saWiro.

7-Si zustad erTi weli gaxda,

rac vrceli gancxadeba gaakeTa da

yvelaferi, rac Tqva, mSvidobiani

gardatexis saxiT gakeTda, marTla

erT muStad Sekra saqarTvelo, amitom,

mgonia, rom qveyanasac gaiyvans

samSvidobos...

_ erTi kaci WamaSiac braliao.

gundze ras ityviT.

_ im gundis imedic maqvs, romelic

am erTi kacis garSemoa Semokrebili,

im adamianebis imedic, vinc

gamovida quCaSi da dadga, rom Tavis

arCevans aravis aRar gaatans da ar

gaafarCakebinebs

iolad, im dasavluri

samyaros imedic maqvs,

romelmac, aRmoCnda,

rom erTxel miRebul

gadawyvetilebas mixeil

saakaSvilis Sesaxeb

ar anacvala saqarTvelo.

_ Tqven fsiqologic

xarT profesiiT,

ras ityviT, xalxis

fsiqologiuri ganwyoba

ras geubnebaT.

_ imeds, imeds!

Tavdadebas vxedav _

im dRes xalxi rom

gamovida, iqiT zeimi

iyo, magram ar midiodnen

da quCaSi, StabebTan

idgnen RamiT da icavdnen TavianT

xmebs, esec vnaxeT es aris Zalian

seriozuli Sedegi.

vfiqrob, gavalT mSvidobian napirze.

Svilebs rom davutovebT, vici,

magram, iqneba, mec moveswro iseT

bednier saqarTvelos, sadac sistema

iqneba iseTi myari, konkretuli lideri

veRarafers daaSavebs...

maia WeliZe

zviad ZiZiguri: axla mTavaria,

ramdenad, ivaJkacebs `qarTuli

ocneba~ da misi politikuri gundi

pirvveli oqtombris saparlamento

arCevvnebis Semdeg

qvveyynis marTvvaze pasuximgebloba

opoziciam itvvirTa.

maT `nacionaluri

moZraoba~~ 3112254 xmiT daamarcxes

da xelisufleba-

Si umravvlesobiT movvidnen.

ra gegmebi aqvvs `qar-

Tul ocnebas~~ da ra iqneba

maTTvvis prioritetuli xelisuflebaSi

mosvvlis Semdeg?

`saerTo gazeTs~~ koalicia

`qarTuli ocnebis~~

erT-eerTi lideri zviad

ZiZiguri esaubra.

_ batono zviad, ceskom

arCevnebis saboloo Sedegebi

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`qarTul ocnebas~

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wilad, `nacionalur moZraobas~

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Sedegebis gaTvaliswinebiT,

SegviZlia

vTqvaT, rom saparlamento

arCevnebi demokratiulad

Catarda?

_ imis Tqmis safuZveli,

rom 2012 wlis saparlamento

arCevnebi demokratiulad

Catarda namdvilad ar

gvaqvs. winasaarCevno kampania

uxeSi darRvevebiT, politikur

oponentebze zewoliT

xasiaTdeboda. amas

garda, finansuri monitoringis

samsaxurma ukanonod

dauyadaRa `qarTul ocnebas~

angariSebi, verc erTi

adamiani ver axorcielebda

Semowirulobas, amitom saubari

imaze, rom arCevnebi

demokratiulad Catarda

zedmetia. Tumca pirvel

oqtombers qarTvelma xalxma

Tavidan moicila mixeil

saakaSvilis diqtatoruli

reJimi, romelic rva

wlis ganmavlobaSi awamebda

da Cagravda qarTvels

ers.

_ gasagebia,

rom Seicvala saakaSvilisxelisufleba,

magram

arCevnebis Sedegebis

mixedviT Tu

vimsjelebT, `qar-

Tul ocnebasa~ da

`nacionalur moZraobas~

Soris mandatebis

sxvaoba

mxolod 16 deputatia.

rogor fiqrobT,

aseT pirobebSi

koalicia SeZlebs

cvlilebebis ganxorcielebas?

_ Cven qveyanaSi reformebi,

realurad, gatardeba,

radgan xelisuflebam ar-

CevnebSi damarcxeba ukve

aRiara da mzadaa, rom mTavrobis

dakompleqtebis sakiTxSi

problemebi ar Segviqmnas.

proporcias, romelsac

cesko `qarTul ocnebasa~

da `nacionalebs~ Soris

afiqsirebs, ra Tqma unda,

simarTles ar Seesabameba

da ar asaxavs sazogadoebis

ganwyobas. Tumca arsebuli

SedegebiT koalicia `qar-

Tul ocnebas~ gaaCnia resursi,

rom Tavad daakompleqtos

mTavrobis Semadgenloba.

_ eqspertebis nawili

saubrobs, rom mixeil saakaSvilis

gundi politikuri

krizisis Sesaqmnelad

emzadeba. realurad miiCnevT

am pozicias?

_ mixeil saakaSvili

politikuri kriziss ver

Seqmnis, radgan procesebis

marTvasTan dakavSirebiT,

sruli berketi `qarTul

ocnebas~ gaaCnia. koaliciis

liders biZina ivaniSvils

movlenebis marTva efeqturad

da adekvaturad SeuZlia,

radgan is kargi menejeria.

amitom, mTavaria,

ramdenad ivaJkacebs `qar-

Tuli ocneba~ da misi politikuri

gundi.

_ saparlamento arCevnebSi

`qarTuli ocnebis~

gamarjvebis miuxedavad,

prezidentad kvlav mixeil

saakaSvili rCeba, rogor

warmogidgeniaT masTan er-

Tad qveynis marTva?

_ ise unda moviqceT,

rogorc qarTvel xalxs

sWirdeba. amitom Cveni amocanaa

qveyana fexze davayenoT

da TiToeuli moqalaqis

ojaxSi Sevides winsvla

da warmateba. mixeil

saakaSvilTan urTierTobasa

da TvalebSi Caxedvas, rac

Seexeba politikosebis

mxridan, vfiqrob, naklebad

gansxvavebuli sakiTxi unda

iyos. saWiro iqneba, SevxvdebiT

mixeil saakaSvils,

ar iqneba aucilebeli, ar

SevxvdebiT.

_ saqarTvelo da qarTveli

eri bevri problemis

winaSe dgas, ra iqneba mTavari

reforma, rasac `qar-

Tuli ocneba~ xelisuflebaSi

mosvlis Semdeg ganaxorcielebs?

_ pirvel rigSi, media

da sasamarTlo unda gaTavisufldes

zewolisgan da

TavianTi movaleoba damoukideblad

ganaxorcielon.

vfiqrob, mediis Tavisufleba

da sasamarTlos damoukidebloba

is ZiriTadi

qvakuTxedia, rasac qveynis

ganviTareba unda daefuZnos.

miranda

nabaxteveli

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8 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

iinntteerrvviiuu ppoolliittoolloogg

hamlet WipaSvilTan

_ batono hamlet, gaxsovT,

winasaarCevnod saakaSvili rom

ambobda, mowinaaRmdeges beWebze

davcemTo? Cvens aSenebuls

aravis davangrevinebTo? saakaSvilma

ase ubrZolvelad

daTmo poziciebi?

_ saqme isaa, rom, mixeil

saakaSvili damfrTxali kurdRlis

mdgomareobaSia, radgan

xedavs, rom, SeiZleba, dadges

rogorc misi, aseve misi garemocvis

pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxic.

biZina ivaniSvils SeuZlia

amis gakeTeba, radgan

xalxic amas moiTxovs, xvdeba

amas saakaSvili da cdilobs

iyos damTmobi, mimtevebeli,

demokrati. mas dRes sxva gamosavali

ar aqvs da airCia is

gza, rom iqneba teqnikuri sakiTxebis

momgvarebeli _ parlamentis

mier miRebul gadawyvetilebebs

xels moawers.

amasTanave, man unda gaiTvaliswinos

moqmedi premier-ministris

winadadebebic. misi

sityvebiT rom vTqvaT,

`gafarCakebul~ situaciaSia

dRes miSa

da SiSi imisa, rom mavneobas

moimoqmedebs,

gamoricxulia.

am etapze is verafers ve-

Rar moimoqmedebs, Zalianac

rom undodes.

cxadia, nacionalebi isev

wamoyofen Tavs, roca Tanamdebobebis

ganawilebis dro dadgeba.

Tanac Casafrebulis

mdgomareobaSi imyofebian. elian,

rodis dadgeba momenti

`qarTuli ocnebis~ koalicia-

Si Semavali subieqtebi rom

gaTiSvas daiwyeben, raTa nelnela

daiwyon TavianTi poziciebis

reabilitacia.

_ Tqveni azriT, miscems sa-

Sualebas `qarTuli ocneba~

nacionalebs kvlav aRorZindnen?

_ nacionalebi yovelTvis

Seecdebian amas, erTaderTi

damabrkolebeli faqtori da

adeqvaturi nabiji `ocnebis~

koaliciidan iqneba is, rom

dadgeba sakiTxi damnaSaveebis

dasjis Taobaze.

_ xom ar unda dasvas

axalma mTavrobam prezidentis

impiCmentis sakiTxi?

_ es imdenad rTuli proceduraa,

ar eyofa mxolod

`qarTuli ocnebis~ resursi.

isini parlamentSi ubralo

umravlesobiT arian mosuli.

Tanac es sakiTxi procedurulad

aris rTuli

da xangrZlivi.

vfiqrob, gacilebiT

ukeTesi iqneba, `qarTulma

ocnebam~ Seqmnas jgufi saxelmwifo

danaSaulebaTa

gamosaZieblad. magaliTad,

2008 wlis saomari jgufi

konfliqtze, roca pativcemulma

saakaSvilma cecxli

gauxsna Tavissave qveyanas

da Tavisive moqalaqeebi

mZinare dabomba. man daiwyo

omi, romelsac mohyva

teritoriebis dakargva,

daixocnen adamianebi, Seiqmna

ori damoukidebeli saxelmwifo

da qveyana uaRresad

mZime mdgomareobaSi

Cavarda. es aris saxelmwifo

danaSauli!

am saqmeebis gamoZiebis-

Tvis saWiroa ara erTi da

ori Tve, xolo impiCmentis

gamocxadebisTvis aseTi

saqmeebi mTavari safuZveli

unda iyos.

xelisufali isjebakorufciisTvis,

adamianebis cxovrebisgauaresebisTvis,saxelmwifo

RalatisTvis

(omis gaCaRebisTvis,

teritoriebis

dakargvisTvis),

yvela es danaSauli

saakaSvils Cadenili

aqvs. Tuki saqarTveloamisaTvis

pasuxs ar mo-

Txovs, damerwmuneT,

es qveyana fexze

ver dadgeba.

1993 wels SevardnaZe rom

Sevarda afxazeTSi, gaaCaRa

omi, daixoca 30 000 adamiani,

davkargeT afxazeTi, maSin qar-

Tvel xalxs kategoriulad

rom moeTxova omis iniciatoris

dasja, 2008 wlis tragediac

ar moxdeboda...

saakaSvili ukve be-

Webze dadebulia, mag-

Cadenili danaSaulisTvis

Tuki saakaSvili ar davsajeT,

saqarTvelo fexze ver dadgeba!

ram advili SesaZlebelia,

aseTi samarTlebrivi

nabijebi

rom ar gadaidgas, kvlav

wamoimarTon da

axali ZaliT mogvevlinon.

nacionaluri moZraobis

wevrebi da liderebi unda daisajon

imisTvis, rac Caidines.

9 tragikuli weli,

rac gaviareT, aRar

unda ganmeordes!

_ Tqven Tu fiqrobdiT,

rom nacmoZraoba am arCevnebSi

damarcxdeboda?

_ miuxedavad winasaarCevnod

gamomzeurebuli cixis

kadrebisa, nacionalebma demagogiuri

propagandiT SeZles

gaeqarwylebinaT xalxSi agresiuli

ganwyoba, Tumca bolomde

mainc ver moaxerxes es.

vfiqrobdi, rom absoluturiumravlesobiT

ver movidodnen,

magram aseTi angariSiT

Tu waagebdnen,

ver warmomedgina.

saerTod, mimaCnia, rom 1

wlis Semdeg kvlav unda Catardes

saparlamento arCevnebi,

radgan es arCevnebi mixeil

saakaSvilis siZulvilis fonze

Catarda, rac nawilobriv

mainc gavlenas moaxdenda ar-

Cevnebis Sedegebze.

dRes parlamentSi

ori partiaa warmodgenili.

2013 wels ki

saparlamento modelze

gadadis qveyana.

amitom, wesiT, mTavrobamravalpartiuli

unda iyos.

_ `ras ambobs~, batono

hamlet, dasavleTi, qarTvelma

xalxma `demokratiis Suquras~

zurgi rom Seaqcia?

_ vfiqrob, rom amerikelebic

SokSi arian. qarTveli

xalxis gadawyetileba Sokismomgvreli

ambavia dasavleTis-

Tvis.

isini fiqrobdnen, rom nacionalebi

mogebas SeZlebdnen.

aSS-i mTeli erTi wlis

ganmavlobaSi IRI da NDI sa-

SualebiT CagvCiCinebda, rom

nacionalebi miiRebdnen umravles

xmebs, cotas `qarTuli

ocneba~, ufro naklebs qdm.

aseTi iyo amerikuli `ocneba~.

dRes `qarTuli ocnebis~

zogierTi warmomadgeneli ambobs,

rom imdeni imuSaves, daarwmunes

dasavleTi miSas

cudkacobaSi. es gamoricxulia.

aSS-s veravin daarwmunebs,

rom miSa cudi biWia.

is iyo adamiani, romelic

nebismier amerikul davalebas

asrulebda didi gulmodginebiT.

am dReebSi yvelam vnaxeT

videokadrebi, romelic HTB

gadmosca. iq kargad Cans

saakaSvilis marjvena xeli

givi TargamaZe rogor TaTbirobs

rus opozicionerebTan

axali rusuli xaverdovani

revoluciis

mosaxdenad. es useriozulesi

faqtia.

mokled, aseT rols asrulebda

regionSi mixeili

da misi gundi da am `bajaRlo

oqros~ xelidan

gaSveba amerikas ar surs.

amitomac iyvnen Tanaxma

imaze, rom Seecvala saakaSvils

saxe da Tanamdeboba

da gamxdariyo premier-ministri.

ki laparakobdnen Zalauflebisgadabareba-gadmobarebaze,

magram es sityvis

masalad sWirdebodaT.

demokratiulma amerikam

Tvali daxuWa, roca saakaSvilma

ori wlis win Tavis

sasargeblod Secvala

konstitucia, radgan yovelive

es aSS-Tan iyo SeTanxmebuli.

rogor unda

ecxovra momavalSi qarTvel

xalxs, amas amerika

wyvetda miSasTan erTad da

Tu vinmes hgonia, rom nacional

biWebs `CauSvebs~, Zalian

cdeba. Cven rom vgegmavT

saakaSvilis mTavrobis

gasamarTlebas, naxavT yvela,

pirveli mowinaaRmdege,

vinc gamova, aSS-i iqneba.

aSS-i cdilobs `ocnebam~

parlamentSi ar moipovos

ori mesamedi, anu 100

plus 1 deputatiT da nacionalebs

hqondeT myari

pozicia, Tan iyvnen Casafrebul

mdgomareobaSi. `qarTuli

ocneba~ ki ar iyos im

raodenobiT warmodgenili,

rom sakonstitucio cvlilebebi

ganaxorcielos. ubralo

umravlesobiT, rac amJamad

aqvs `qarTul ocnebas~, konstituciis

formirebas ver moaxerxebs

es amerikelTa damsaxurebaa.

isini bolomde upatroneben

`pirmSoebs~...

iranda kalandaZe


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

policiis saqmeebSi kargad

Caxeduli Cemi anonimi wyaros

mtkicebiT, cixis jalaTebze naklebi

jalaTebi nacxelisuflebas

policiaSi ar hyavda, isini

sisastikiTa da binZuri azrovnebiT

namdvilad ar Camouvardebodnen

sapatimroebis vaiTanamSromlebs.

e.w. samarTaldamcavebi Tu

qveynis uSiSroebis damcvelni

yvela xerxiT aiZulebdnen da

SeiZleba, dResac aiZuleben adamianebs

maTTan TanamSromlobas.

zogs narkotiksa da iaraRs Caudebdnen,

sxvas gaupatiurebas, ya-

CaRobas an qurdobas daabralebdnen,

miTumetes, rom cru mowmisa

da dazaralebulis povna ar

warmoadgenda maTTvis did problemas.

ise, `ucxo~ mowme arc

sWirdebaT, iseTi kanonmdebloba

SemoiRes, rom am rols policielebic

mSvenivrad asruleben.

civilizebul samyaroSi saqarTvelo,

albaT, erTaderTi qveyanaa,

sadac policielis Cvenebis

safuZvelze udanaSaulo adamianebs

cixeSi amwyvdeven. komunistebsac

ki ar mosvliaT azrad,

policielisTvis, anu dainteresebuli

pirisTvis, mowmis statusic

SeeTavsebinaT. saakaSvilis

reJimis policia-prokuratura

urC `eWvmitanilebs~ emuqreboda,

Tu TanamSromlobaze

uars ityviT, gagaupatiurebT, am

yvelafers gadaviRebT da Tqveni

ojaxis wevrebs vaCvenebT, Tqven

ki `qaTmebis~ kameraSi Cagagdeb-

To. am binZur kampaniaSi policiis

TiTqmis yvela maRalCinosani

aqtiurad iyo CarTuli.

policia biZina ivaniSvilis

politikaSi gamoCenis Semdeg

ufro `gaaqtiurda~. `saerTo gazeTs~

sando wyarom policiis

muSaobis gegmac gauSifra. aqcenti

ZiriTadad, axalgazrdebze

keTdeboda. maT narkotiks Caudebdnen,

daakavebdnen da Semdeg

iwyeboda maTi `damuSaveba~, rom

TanamSromlobaze daeTanxmebinaT.

es TanamSrobloba ki imaSi gamoixateboda,

rom `saeWvo~ pirebze

policiisTvis informaciebi unda

miewodebinaT. `daverbovkebulebs~

Sesabamis xelwerilebsac

awerinebdnen. im axalgazrdebs,

visac kompiuterTan muSaoba SeeZlo,

aiZulebdnen, rom policiis

mier miTiTebuli pirebisTvis

kompiuterebSi `Cipebi~ CaedgaT.

zogs avaldebulebdnen saaSkaraoze

gamoetanaT vinmes piradi

cxovreba, maTTvis suraTebi

gadaeRoT da sxva mtkicebulebebTan

erTad mietanaT. mere

am yvelafriT im `komprometirebul~

xalxs aSantaJebdnen da

TavianT saidumlo agentebad aqcevdnen.

es xalxic, imis SiSiT,

nacionalebs, mxolod erTaderTi

ram Tu daubrunebs sicocxlis

sunTqvas : dausjelobis sindromi

da xelSeuxeblobis garantiebi!!

Tu batoni biZina ase apirebs politikuri

kalos lewvas, darwmunebuli iyaviT,

rom, xvalve, udides winaaRmdegobas miiRebs

pasuxad xalxisgan. radganac, qarTvelebs,

pirvel rigSi, samarTlis aRsruleba

gvwyuria da ara laRiZis wyali.

vasiko maRlaferiZis ar iyos...

prezidenti opoziciaSi vis gaugia,

Tu prezidenti xar, Se ojax

dalocviloo... opozicia ramfer

xar? avoeee, mixaaa.

damnaSaveebi aucileblad unda daisajon

da daisajon ara fulis

gadaxdiT, aramed ramodenimewliani

patimrobiT,mxolod im gansxvavebiT,

rom isini cixeSi iqnebian daculni

rom ojaxebi ar dangreodaT,

iZulebuli iyvnen daTanxmebuliyvnen.

es adamianebi, iqneb, axla

mainc gamovidnen da Tqvan, ra

wnexisa da muqaris qveS uxdebodaT

policiis sasargeblod cru

Cvenebebis micema. amiT maTi cru

Cvenebis gamo dasjil adamianebsac

daexmarebian da sakuTar

usafrTxoebasac uzrunvelyofen.

sanam isini amis Sesaxeb sajaro

gancxadebebs ar gaakeTeben, axalaiebisa

da maTi msgavsi Cinosnebisgan

maT sicocxles safrTxe

emuqreba. yvelam isedac icis, ra

da rogor xdeboda, magram,

jobs, TviTon aRiaron da gamo-

Ziebas obieqturi Cveneba miscen.

yvela Tanxmdeba imaSi, rom

nacmoZraobis liderebi ase umtkivneulod

ar daTmoben Zalauflebas.

isini, albaT, yvela zomas

mimarTaven, rom areuloba moaxdinon

da maTi WkuiT, axali xelisuflebis

kompometireba gamoiwvion.

gavixsenoT Tundac

bankisa da maRaziebis e.w. dayaCa-

Rebis faqtebi. `saerTo gazeTs~

am sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT, saintereso

informaciebi miawodes.

raRaca incidentis dros

gamoZaxebul patrulebs mosaxleobisTvis

uTqvamT, axla amaze

reagireba Cven aRar gvexebao.

rogorc Cans, maT

Tavi nacionalebis policia

hgoniaT da fiqroben,

rom wesrigis dacva aRar

moeTxovebaT. daZabuli

fonis SeqmnaSi, rogorc

Cans, dedaqalaqis satransporto

samsaxuricaa

CarTuli. 6 oqtombers,

diliT, metrosadgur

`axmetelSi~ ramdenime

matarebeli gaurkveveli

mizeziT carieli gauSviaT.

sadguri xalxiT iyo

gadaWedili da cxadia,

ukmayofiloc, bevri iqneboda,

magram xalxs ase advilad veRar

moatyeben. Turme yvela imas ambobda,

nacionalebi amas specialurad

akeTeben, rom vifiqroT,

Tu eseni wavlen, daviRupebiTo.

ase, rom, nacionalo `murtaloebo~,

mogiZveldaT meTodebi.

sarwmuno wyarom kriminaluri

viTarebis viTom daZabvasTan

dakavSirebiT, erTi saintereso

informacia mogvawoda, rac,

sxvaTa Soris, dadasturebuli

yofila, arCevnebamde ori kvi-

riT adre policiis ufrosebisTvis

dauavalebiaT, rom moenaxaT

jibis qurdebi, avtomanqanis

magnitofonebisa da sarkeebis

e.w. momparavebi da organizebulad

daewyoT masiuri qurdobis

inscenireba, anu xelovnurad

unda SeeqmnaT foni, rom, xom

xedavT, `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelisuflebaSi

mosvlas kriminalis

aRorZineba moyvebao. isic

xom gamJRavnda, rom kriminaluri

fonis xelovnurad daZabvis

gegmaSi avadsaxsenebeli udesiani

da misi zonderebic monawileobdnen.

dameTanxmebiT, rom es aris,

`nacionali~ policielebi

patimrebis wamebis

meTodebs erTmaneTis

winaaRmdegac iyenebdnen?

axalaiam ramdenime TanamSromeli

yelamde miwaSi Caaflvevina _

eseni vanos specrazmelebi iyvneno...

yovelgvari Zaladobisgan, gansakuTrebiT

rezinis xelketebisgan da cocxebisgan! amas

sruli seriozulobiT vambob..

exla gamovides rusudan kervaliSvili

da Tqvas, rato gadayares

amdeni xalxi. saakaSvilze

rom iyo `centr pointi~, amofarebuli

da xalxis rom dascinodnen, exla

vinRa dakriSavs.

guli migebs, Tbilisis meris ar-

Cevnebi droze adre Catardeba!

faqtobrivad, sabotaJi sakuTari

moqalaqeebis winaaRmdeg. Tuki

policia marTlac ar reagirebs

gamoZaxebaze da TviT danaSaulis

faqtzec, iuristebi amas

sabotaJad afaseben, rasac nacmoZraoba

ganvlili 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi

isedac sCadioda sakuTari

xalxis winaaRmdeg.

policiis gulgrilobam da

umoqmedobam ukve iseTi seriozuli

saxe miiRo, rom prezidentad

wodebuli saakaSvili iZulebuli

gaxda Ss ministris mo-

dRes biZom im mosamarTles saqmes

aRvuZrav, romelmac is 200

milioni lari jarima dagvado

Cvens partiaso))) saRol, Cems

mosamarTlesac daerxeva, imedia, romelmac

igive saqmeze 80 aTasi lari jarima damakisra.)))

xalxno, gexvewebiT ise nu momklavT,

boco wiklauris saxe rom

ar manaxoT.... nugzar ramdeni xania

am wuTs velodebi, roca gabrwyinebuli

TvalebiT daiwyeb nacebis gapravebaze

laparaks. an kidev ,,Cemi” Ciora vin

icis rogor momenatreba......ehh.

eeex, biZina, es ra miqeni es aris

kerZo sakuTrebis dacva??? lazikaSi

plaJze kai xuToTaxian bina-

Si mqonda fuli Setanili `centr

pointSi~ da aRar vaSenebo, arada, magis

imedi mqonda :))))

saerTo gazeTi

valeobis Semsrulebeli zRula-

Ze da mTavari prokurori mur-

Taz zodelava daebarebina da

telekamerebis win mieca miTiTebebi.

nacmoZraobis mier inspirirebuli

aseTi kriminaluri `gamoxtomebi~,

savaraudod, kvlavac

mravlad gvelodeba.

aqve im skandaluri faqtebis

Sesaxebac gvinda giamboT, romelic

Cvenma wyarom mogvawoda.

sisastikiT cnobili baCo axalaia

marto patimrebis mimarT

ar yofila daundobeli. baton

baCanas, rogorc ki Ss ministrad

dainiSna da misi winamorbedis

kabineti daikava specrazmelebis

sabuTebi mouTxovia imis

gasarkvevad, vis ra premia hqonda

miRebuli da rogor iyo waxalisebuli.

axalaias amis Semdeg

SeurCevia ramdenime specrazmeli

(etyoba, isini TvalSi

ar mouvida), romlebsac, Turme,

is da misi damqaSebi saSinel

Seuracxyofas ayenebdnen.

am sadistma pirovnebam

zogierTi specrazmeli

miwaSi ise Caaflvevina,

rom mxolod

Tavebi uCandaT, danar-

Cenebs ki aiZulebdnen,

rom zemodan erbinaT.

amis Semdeg isini miwidan

amohyavdaT da

wylis magivrad fekalur

masebs asxamdnen.

aseT wamebaSi imitom

hyavdaT, Tqven vanos

specrazmelebi iyavi-

To.

maT jer es represiebi mouwyves,

Semdeg ki samsaxuridan

gayares. arada, rom hkiTxoT, er-

Ti gundi arian, sinamdvileSi

ki erTmaneTis mimarT biologiuri

zizRi aqvT.

Cveni anonimi respondentis

TqmiT, mas, marTalia, ar aqvs am

specrazmelebis represiebTan dakavSirebiT

faqtobrivi mtkicebulebebi,

magram es informacia

imdenad sando wyarom momawoda,

rom mis simarTleSi eWvis Setana

gamoricxuliao. wesiT, es

specrazmelebic unda gamovidnen

da Tqvan simarTle, ra xdeboda,

visi miTiTebiT, awamebdnen da

Seuracxyofdnen am xalxs.

wyarom lafanyuris specoperaciasTan

dakavSirebiTac mogvawoda

sayuradRebo informacia.

es incidenti rom arCevnebs

ukavSirdeboda, amaze eqspertebi

ukve Riad saubroben. isic iTqva,

rom nacxelisufleba biZina

ivaniSvilis likvidacias gegmavda,

razec Cveni gazeTi ukve

werda. wyaros cnobiT, mimdinare

wlis TebervalSi, axalaiebisa

da megis qardavas Tavyrilobaze

gaiJRera vinme zaraevis

gvarma, zaraevi Camova da Tu veravin

SeZlo, eg SeZlebs da daagvirgvinebso.

ra Tqma unda, batoni

biZinas likvidaciis sakiTxs

ganixilavdnen da mosaxleobis

mimarTac sastik represiebs

gegmavdneno. sabednierod,

maT Canafiqrs ganxorcieleba ar

ewera. arCevnebSi nacmoZraobis

damarcxebasTan dakavSirebiT,

erTma Cemma megobarma enamoswrebulad

Tqva: Tu 1945 wlis 9

maisi faSizmze gamarjvebis

dRea, 2012 wlis 1 oqtomberi

qarTuli sazogadoebis sadizmsa

da Zaladobaze gamarjvebis dRed

SeiZleba CaiTvalos. amisTvis

ki madloba jer ufals unda

vuTxraT, mere biZina ivaniSvils,

romelmac SeZlo qarTveli

xalxi am gamarjvebamde usisxlod

mieyvanao.

manana suxiSvili

9


10 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba arasamTavrobo

organizacia ``Tavisufali arCevanis~

Tavmjdomare, amomrCevel-

Ta siebis dazustebis uzrunvelyofis

komisiis wevri manana

biwaZe-miqelaZe::

_ qalbatono manana, sruliad

saqarTvelo 1 oqtombris ar-

Cevnebis molodinSi iyo. rogor

fiqrobT, gaamarTla am molodinma?

_ 2012 wlis arCevnebisadmi

didi molodini iyo, gansakuTrebiT

ki mas Semdeg, rac politikaSi

Zalian didi finansuri da

pirovnuli resursebis mqone

adamiani _ biZina ivaniSvili Semovida.

mdore politikuri sivrce,

rac xelisuflebas uzurpirebuli

hqonda, uceb Zalian saintereso,

boboqari gaxda, TumcaRa

Zalian calmxrivi da usamarTlo.

imitom, rom xelisuflebam

yvela Rone ixmara, raTa

ivaniSvili finansebis Tu sxva

kuTxiT SeezRuda. garda amisa,

`qarTuli ocnebis~ momxreebze

zewola, SantaJi xorcieldeboda.

xelisuflebam `qarTuli ocnebis~

winaaRmdeg uRirsi meTodebiT

gailaSqra. ivaniSvils,

faqtobrivad SiSveli xelebiT

mouwia brZola. gia nodiam unamusod

ganacxada _ fulma gaimarjva

demokratiazeo. minda mas

vupasuxo _ Tavad arian fuliT

mosulni da fulze gayidulnic.

_ rogor SeafasebT 2012

wlis arCevnebs, ram ganapiroba

aseTi Sedegi?

_ es iyo Cumi demokratiuli

bunti, romelic qarTvelma sazogadoebam

saarCevno yuTebTan

ganaxorciela. am yvelaferSi

cixis kadrebma gadamwyveti roli

Seasrula. kaciWamia, boroti

xelisuflebis saxe realurad

davinaxeT. cxadia, 1 oqtomberi

Sedga, magram es ar aris dasasruli,

aramed dasawyisis pirveli

nabijebia. dRevandeli viTarebidan

gamomdinare iseTi Segr-

Zneba maqvs, TiTqos qveyanaSi orxelisuflebianobis

efeqtia. aRmoCnda,

rom wina xelisuflebas,

romelic praqtikulad, umciresobaSi

unda iyos, hyavs prezidenti,

uzenaesi sasamarTlos

Tavmjdomare _ kublaSvili,

erovnuli bankis prezidenti, qalaqis

meri. maSin ra gamarjvebazea

saubari?! aseve, prezidentis

keTil nebazea damokidebuli

`qarTul ocnebas~ miscems Tu

ara saSualebas Zalovanebi Tavis

survilisamebr daakompleqton.

minda xazgasmiT aRvniSno, rom

axali konstitucia mxolod da

mxolod 2013 wlis saprezidento

arCevnebis Semdeg Seva Zala-

Si. manamde ki moqmedebs isev Zveli

konstitucia, romelic Zalmomre

prezidentis models warmoadgens

da igi jerjerobiT,

mTeli Tavisi ZalauflebiT

kvlav Tavis adgilze rCeba. swored

amiTaa ganpirobebuli, rom

misi gundis wevrebi tele-ekranebidan

cinikuri, momRimari saxeebiT

ultimatumebis eniT gvesaubrebian.

prezidentma pirdapir

Tqva _ 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi

dagakvirdebiT da mere saerTod

davSli am parlamentso. giga bokeriam

da daviT baqraZem praqtikulad,

Cvenze muqara ganaxorcieles.

aqedan gamomdinare, vTvli,

rom yvelaferi rac dRes xdeba,

sabotaJis elementebs Seicavs.

am azrs isic mimtkicebs, rom

cesko, romelic am xelisuflebis

nawilia, process aWianurebs.

swored aqedan gamomdinarea

is darRvevebi, rac 1 oqtombers

dafiqsirda. upirvelesad

unda aRiniSnos, rom TiTqmis

yvela komisiis Tavmjdomare,

romelTa didi nawili `nac.moZraobis~

wevri iyo, yvela moZraobaze

gareT gagdebiT imuqreboda.

am bundovani saarCevno kodeqsis

Tanaxmad, komisiis Tavmjdomares

gadawyvetilebis miReba

erTpirovnulad SeuZlia. darRvevebis

umTavresi mizezi isaa,

rom Zalian bevri specubani gaxsnes,

rac aqamde saqarTvelos

teritoriaze arasdros dafiqsirebula.

sazRvargareTis xmebs

spec.ubnis, anu avRaneTis sajariso

nawilebis xmebi Seuries

da aqedan ise miiRes, TiTqos

`ncionalurma moZraobam~ moigo.

es yvelaferi usamarTlobis

zRvars scildeba. absoluturad

mesmis, am fonze sazogadoebis

aRSfoTeba _ roca Cven veubnebiT,

rom TiTqos gavimarjveT,

xalxi amas ver aRiqvams. rogor

gavimarjveT, roca xalxs saku-

Tari arCevani waarTves. amis na-

Teli magaliTia xaSurSi ganvi-

Tarebuli movlenebi. Cemi azriT,

is rac xaSurSi moxda mTeli

saqarTvelosTvis iyo gamiznuli.

es Canafiqri arsebobda, ubralod

arCevnebze xalxis uprecedento

raodenobiT misvlam, maT

amis saSuleba ar misca. amitom

gadavidnen saTadarigo variantze,

rasac axla aqvs adgili. isini

darwmunebuli arian, rom am

saTadarigo variantiT lelos

gaitanen. xelisuflebis komentarebi

igive mesijia maTi momxreebis

mimarT _ nu geSiniaT,

Cven isev movalT. saakaSvilis

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

saxelisuflebo televiziebSi

araferi

Secvlila, am televiziebSi

Cven isev saakaSvilis

qveyanaSi

vcxovrobT. vxedavT

kvlav saakaSvilis, gigi

ugulavas voiaJebs,

aseve giga bokerias,

baqraZes da a.S. `qar-

Tuli ocneba~ ki, romelic

qarTveli xalxis

arCevania, saubno

saarCevno komisiebze

ZalmomreobaSi sdeben

brals. am fonze ra gasakviria,

rom xalxs usamarTlobis gancda

uCndeba.

_ saxelisuflebo arxebma

bankebis gaZarcvazec daiwyo apelireba.

_ diax, zustad es aris sabotaJi,

maTi programis nawili.

amiT undaT gvaCvenon _ ai, Cven

wavediT da xedavT, meore dResve,

bankebis Zarcva daiwyes (!)

ususur scenarebs dgamen. es sabotaJia.

ivaniSvilma sazogadoebas

simSvidisken mouwoda, igi

sxvagvarad verc moiqceva. magram,

vTvli, rom Tu saWiro gaxda,

Cven protestis gamoxatvis

Tavisuflebas verasdros veravin

agvikrZalavs.

_ anu, Tqven vTvliT, rom sazogadoebam

protesti unda gamoxatos?

_ diaxac, protesti unda gamovxatoT

im naZirala, kaciWamia

xelisufalis mimarT, romelsac

xelisuflebidan wasvla aRar

unda da Seuracxyofas

ayenebs qarTvel sazogadoebas,

romelsac monapovars

arTmevs. Zalian

martivia imis mixvedra,

Tu ratom Widaobs xelisufleba

TiToeul xmaze

_ jer erTi imitom, rom

prezidentis impiCments

konstituciuri umravlesobis

asi xma anu ori

mesame sWirdeba. dReis

monacemebiT `qarTul

ocnebas~ 83 xma aqvs. xelisufleba

TiToeuli

xmisTvis ibrZolebs da

yvelafers gaakeTebs, ra-

Ta ivaniSvilis koaliciis

xmebi ass ar gautoldes

da sakonstitucio

umravlesoba ar Sedges.

samarTlianobis aRsadgenad

sxva saSualebebic arsebobs,

magram umoklesi, umartivesi gza

konstituciuri umravlesobaa,

rac miRweuli ar aris. swored

amisTvis ibrZvis `nacionaluri

moZraoba~, raTa `qarTuli ocneba~

konstituciuri umravlesobiT

ver Sevides parlamentSi,

raSic mas xels centraluri saarCevno

komisia uwyobs. arada

cesko valdebulia qveyanaSi demokratiuli,

samarTliani arCevnebi

Caataros, rac man verc teqnikurad

da verc moralurad ver

uzrunvelyo. roca adamianebs

usamarTlobis gancda uCndebaT

es niSnavs, rom arCevnebi demokratiulad

ar Catarebula. rogor

SeiZleba roland axalaiam,

ori sadisti Svilis mamam 57

procenti aiRos, alasaniam _ 43

da es demokratiulad CaiTvalos?!

nacistebis satelevizio

arxebze gamudmebiT trialebs

kadrebi _ roland axalaias godeba

_ alasaniam yofili mxedrioneli

momigzavnao. warmogidgeniaT,

riT spekuliantobs kaci,

romelmac ori sadisti gazarda?!

vTvli, rom xalxisgan

upirvelesi davaleba ivaniSvilisa

da misi xelisuflebis mimarT

iqneba is, rom yvela damna-

Saves umkacresad agebinos pasu-

prezidenti saakaSvili unda

gadadges, xolo ` nacionaluri

moZraoba~ politikuri

rukidan unda gaqres!

xi. aramarto maT, vinc cixeebSi

patimrebis sastiki wameba ganaxorciela,

aramed cixis gareT

myof damnaSaveebsac. Tqven rogor

fiqrobT, mxolod cixeebSi

daazarales adamianebi?! _ SigniT

fizikurad, gareT ki _ moralurad

dagvazarales. qarTveli

mamakacebis umravlesoba umu-

Sevrebi datoves, xalxi fsiqikurad

SeSales, es maT rogor

unda SerCeT, amisTvis vibrZodiT?!

_ rac Seexeba konkretulad

gayalbebis faqtebs, ra SegiZliaT

gviTxraT?

_ pirveli, rogorc aRvniSne

spec.ubnebidan Cayrili xmebi

iyo, Tumca, xalxis masiurad

mosvlis gamo, resursi, rac karuselebis

saxiT xelisuflebas

hqonda, sasurveli efeqtiT ver

warimarTa. dafiqsirda calkeuli

mcdelobebi. aseve arsebobs

e.w. `somxuri karuselis~ videomasala.

magram masiuri gayalbeba

oqmebis gadaweriT moxda. zugdidis

erT-erT ubanze pirdapiraa

oqmSi cifrebi gadasworebuli,

es saocaria. anu, ZiriTadad oqmebi

gadakeTda. magaliTad, lagodexSi

araqarTveli mosaxleobisTvis

winaswar hqondaT fuli

gadaxdili, raTa 5-iani SemoexazaT.

_ weRan axseneT, ra dros sasamarTloebSi

gasaCivrebaao, aba,

risi droa axla?

_ xom gagigoniaT, sanam pavle

movida, petres tyavi gaaZvreso.

gaupatiurebuli konstituciiT,

romelic rogorc ivaniSvilma

aRniSna, saakaSvilis

xelisuflebam ubis wignakad aqcia,

rasakvirvelia am labirinT-

Si gzis gakvleva da samarTlianobis

aRdgena, Zalian Znelia. Cemi

azriT, upirvelesad, ceskom

zustad is cifrebi unda dados,

ra suraTic realuradaa qveyana-

Si, raTa adamianebs usamarTlobis

SegrZneba ar darCeT. aqedan

unda daviwyoT samarTliani qveynis

mSenebloba. araviTar SemTxvevaSi

ar SeiZleba ase azrovneba

_ arCevnebi gamiyalbes, magram

arauSavs xom gavimarjveTo. gamarjvebisgan

jer Zalian Sors

varT. dReidan, ukve unda gvqondes

imis SegrZneba, rom samarTlian,

demokratiul saxelmwifoSi

vcxovrobT, sadac nebismieri

usamarTloba, Tundac erTi

xmis moparva, kanoniT isjeba.

_ Tavad Tqven romel ubanze

akvirdebodiT arCevnebs da ra

viTareba iyo?

_ Cveni organizacia _ `Tavisufali

arCevani~ 1200 ubans akvirdeboda.

piradad, cixeSi gaxldiT.

wels, pirvelad daiSva

patimrebisTvis xmis micemis precedenti.

xmis micemis ufleba

hqondaT maT, visac 5 welze naklebi

miesaja. mTel saqarTvelo-

Si aseTi iyo 2150 patimari. Cems

ubanze 1000-dan mxolod 233 patimars

misces xmis micemis ufleba.

es kanonmdeblobis xarvezia.

dRes, yoveli mexuTe mamakaci

patimaria. es xom eris genofondis

moraluri gaZarcvaa.

gesmiT, ras akeTeben, es naZirlebi?!

aviRoT moqalaqeTa kavSiris

Sesaxeb organuli kanoni da wavikiTxoT

ra SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba

partia aikrZalos. davinaxavT,

rom yoveli punqti absoluturad

miesadageba `nacionalur

moZraobas~. vTvli, rom

qarTvelma sazogadoebam, diaxac,

swored amaze unda ifiqros _

`nacionaluri moZraoba~ saer-

Tod unda wavides, gaqres politikuri

rukidan.

_ ivaniSvilma prezidents

gadadgomac ki urCia...

_ ivaniSvili ukve aRar aris

quCis politikosi, misi yoveli

sityva aramarto aq, aramed

sazRvargareT izomeba.

Cven, sazogadoebas

aranair sloganebze, aravis

winaSe valdebuleba

ar gvaqvs. amitom, qarTvelma

xalxma unda

vTqvaT, rom ar gvinda

aseTi prezidenti. diaxac,

prezidenti unda

gadadges, diaxac `nacionaluri

moZraoba~ qar-

Tuli politikuri rukidan

unda gaqres, morCa

da gaTavda. amis gakeTeba

Zalian martivi da aucilebelia.

imitom, rom

maT ar unda SerCeT am 9

wlis manZilze qarTveli

eris mimarT ganxorcielebuli

genocidi. qarTvelma

sazogadoebam isini

pirdapir eris genocidSi unda

daadanaSaulon. kidev vimeoreb,

gadavxedoT politikuri gaerTianebis

organul kanons: am

xelisuflebam qveynis teritoriebi

dakarga, sakuTar xalxs

genocidi mouwyo, erSi ganxeTqileba

Sehqonda, prezidenti `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ wevrebs mumiebs

eZaxda, igi sul gaiZaxoda _ me

sinaTle var da Tqven bneli

warsulio; prezidenti verasdros

Cemi ver gaxda, ver gavuziare

mas Cemi tkivili. igi mTeli

cxovreba 10 procentis prezidenti

iyo da aris; aseve, man

ganxeTqileba Seitana qarTul


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

eklesiaSi da Cveni eklesia sxva

konfesiebs daapirispira, Tbilisi

SeiZula da dedaqalaqis mcxovrebni

quTaiselebs gadahkida.

aRarafers vambob patimrebis

mdgomareobaze, umowyalod quCeb-

Si daxvretil biWebze, 2008

wlis omze da a.S. meti, raRa unda

eqna?! gekiTxebiT, am yvelafris

gamkeTebeli xelisufleba

ratom unda iyos Tundac opoziciaSi?

ra ufleba aqvs xalxis

mier demokratiulad arCeul

axal xelisuflebas opoziciaSi

Caudges?! marTalia, gvimtkiceben

yvelaferi rigzeao, magram viciT,

rom biujeti ganulebulia. amaze

mowmobs am dReebSi damwvari

`liberTi bankis~ saTao ofisic,

saidanac manqanebiT raRacebi gahqond-gamohqondaT.

amaT sazogadoeba

brma hgoniaT Tu suleli?!

Cven yvelaferi SesaniSnavad viciT.

amitom, vTvli, xelisuflebaSi

mosul axal gunds sazogadoebis

pulsze mudmivad unda

eWiros xeli da zustad Seasrulos

xalxis moTxovnebi. axali

gundi swored imitom avirCieT,

rom qveyanaSi samarTlianobam

izeimos. qarTuli sazogadoeba

samarTals iTxovs. sazogadoebas

aqvs gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis

ufleba. diaxac, ceskom unda

icodes, rom iq vidgebiT da arcerT

xmas ar davTmobT. sanam

jer kidev boginoben, unda icodnen,

rom maT xalxi arcerT usamarTlo

nabijs ar SearCens. Semdeg,

samarTliani sasamarTlos

winaSe warsdgebian da albaT er-

Ti niurnbergis procesi saqarTveloSic

Catardeba. kidev er-

Txel minda xazgasmiT aRvniSno,

nu movdundebiT, es ar aris saboloo

gamarjveba, aramed dasawyisis

pirveli nabijia. dasawyisi

maSin dasruldeba, roca `qarTuli

ocneba~ mTels xelisuflebas

xelSi aiRebs. aqeTken savali gza

jer kidev didia. manamde aRmSeneblobaze

pretenziebi ar unda

gvqondes. piriqiT, `qarTul ocnebas~

yoveldRiur brZolaSi unda

davexmaroT, raTa maT Zalaufleba

moipovon. dRes, jerjerobiT

ubralod movaxerxeT saparlamento

umravlesobis mopoveba.

imedi maqvs, is TiToeuli xma,

romelic Cven unda davicvaT sakonstitucio

umravlesobas mogvcems,

rac bolosdabolos konstituciis

Secvlisken gagvixsnis

xel-fexs. konstituciis cvlileba

aucilebelia, radgan igi

`nac.moZraobas~ sakuTar Tavze

aqvs morgebuli. iq iseTi naRmebia

Cadebuli, aravin icis romeli,

sad agvifeTqdeba. amitom, ase

rom ar moxdes, dRes maqsimalurad

unda vibrZoloT. ivaniSvils

sxva `lazeikebic~ aqvs Semonaxuli

im SemTxvevisTvis, Tu konstituciuri

umravlesoba ver avi-

ReT. xalxs samarTlianobis ganc-

da rom ar gaucruvdes, ceskom

realuri suraTi unda dados, anu

konstituciuri umravlesoba unda

aviRoT.

_ Tumca, am etapze Sedegs

ver vaRwevT, `qarTuli ocnebisa~

da `nacionaluri moZraobis~ xmebi

TiTqmis erTmaneTs utoldeba.

ase, `nac.moZraobac~ xom gamarjvebuli

gamodis?

_ `nac.moZraoba~ kidevac

Tvlis Tavs gamarjvebulad. amboben,

rom demokratiuli arCevnebis

Catareba SeZles. am dros, es

totalurad gayalbebuli arCevnebi

iyo. suraTi, rac amJamad

gvaqvs _ 83 xma `qarTul ocnebas~,

es mxolod da mxolod qar-

Tveli xalxis samoqalaqo gmirobis

Sedegia. ceskos rac Seexeba,

man veranairad ver uzrunvelyo

es arCevnebi. vimeoreb, es totalurad

gayalbebuli arCevnebia.

_ rac Seexeba `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ 40 procents, saubrobdnen,

rom realuri gaTvlebiT,

maT 15-20 procentze meti

ver unda aeRoT. saidan movida es

40 procenti?

_ swored es aris gayalbeba

_qvemo qarTli, marneuli, walka,

gardabani, lagodexi, axalcixe,

ninowminda mTlianad gayalbda.

aseve, totalurad gaayalbes

samegrelo da am fonze 40 procenti

kidev cotaa. swored amas

vambob, viciT, rom es xmebi gayalbebulia

da qarTvel xalxs

swored am usamarTlobis grZnoba

ar unda dautovon. TbilisSi

ver gabedes gayalbeba da xedavT

ramxela procentebi daufiqsirda

`qarTul ocnebas~?! swored,

es aris realuri procentebi.

nacebma Semdegnairad moipoves

xmebi _ marTlac naturaluri

mxardamWerebiT, vTqvaT 100 aTasi

miSa TavxeliZiT, magram

vTvli, rom eris tragediaa, roca

qveyanas amdeni TavxeliZe

hyavs. aseve, hqondaT sajaro moxeleebis

resursi da spec.ubnebi.

maSin, roca saakaSvilma 116e

_ patimrebis ubanze ver moigo,

115-e ubanze, sadac xmas cixis

administracia aZlevda, mi-

Sam moigo, warmogidgeniaT? aseve,

veswrebodi ceskoSi avRane-

Tis ubnis gaxsnas, sul 1078

xmidan _ 1008-ma 5-iani Semoxaza.

gesmiT, raSia saqme?! _ esaa

misi resursi. iseT olqebSi gaxsnes

spec ubnebi, sadac jariskaci

arasodes yofila. vTqvaT mestiaSi

da swored am spec.ubnebiT

moxda procentebis gadafarva.

ZiriTadad, gayalbeba spec. ubnebiT

da gadawerili oqmebiT

moxda. amis gvirgvini iyo xaSuri,

sadac pirdapir Sevardnen,

daluqes yuTi, esroles xalxs,

meti raRa unda eqnaT? erTder-

Ti rasac viTxov usamarTlobis

gancda ar damitovon. me xma miveci

Tavisuflebas, demokratiul,

samarTlian qveyanas da ara

usamarTlobas.

Tamar SveliZe

ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa yyooffiillii ssaaxxaallxxoo

ddaammccvveellii,, JJuurrnnaalliissttii nana devdariani

- qalbatono nana, gayalbda Tu

ara 2012 wlis saparlamento ar-

Cevnebi?

- gayalbeba moxda da rogor,

ici?- 40% daiwera „nacionalurma

moZraobam“ da gjera Sen, rom cixis

kadrebis gamoqveynebis Semdeg

aTidan oTxma adamianma magaT misca

xma? es aris ararealuri. maqsimum

10% hqonodaT Tavisi saaxloblo-

Ti, saxelmwifo struqturebSi dasaqmebuli

xalxiT. 30% rogorc

araferi ise Caides jibeSi da cxadia,

am 30%-Si sxva politikuri

subieqtebis xmebic iyo. SeuZlebelia,

rom ori politikuri partiis

garda, yvela danarCeni partia

1%-is qvemoT iyos. ai, es xmebia

moparuli. magram am SemTxvevaSi

davas arc aravin ar apirebs, radgan

„ocnebas“ uyureben, rogorc

gadamrCen Zalas da vin idavebs axla,

rom arCevnebi gayalbda? kidev

erTxel vambob, warmoudgenelia,

saqarTvelos mosaxleoba iyos moralurad

iseTi maxinji, rom imis

gamkeTebels, rac videokadrebSi

vnaxeT, kidev aTidan oTxma amomr-

Cevelma misces xma.

ukve Zalian SeizRudnen „nacionalebi“

da aq mxolod xmebSi

araa saqme. xalxi darwmunda, rom

amaTi moSoreba SesaZlebeli yofila.

amitom, rodesac revanSzea laparaki,

revanSistuli ganwyobileba

imdenad politikur Zalebs ara

aqvT, ramdenadac Tavad mosaxleobas.

maT realuri cvlilebebis

moTxovnileba aqvT da ara raRac

„zrdilobiani mixra-moxvris“.

-rogorc vnaxeT, biZina ivaniSvilma

„egzitpolebis“ gamoqveynebisTanave

miuloca Tavis amomrCevlebs

gamarjveba da ganacxada, rom

arCevnebi demokratiulad Catarda.

iyo Tu ara es gancxadeba naCqarevi,

iqidan gamomdinare, rom „demokratiuli

arCevnebis“ aRiarebiT,

man saSualeba misca „nacionalur

moZraobas“ 40% daeweraT?

-arc es gancxadeba yofila Sem-

TxveviTi da arc mTeli moqmedebis

stili. maT Soris, arc is aris

SemTxveviTi, rom Cveni amerikeli

megobrebi win da ukan daiarebian,

xan miSasTan midian, xan biZinasTan.

SeerTebul Statebs aranairad ar

awyobda aq movlenebis revoluciuri

ganviTareba, amitom iyo biZina

ivaniSvili sul rom ambobda,

movalT ara revoluciiT,

aramed arCevnebis gziT.

amerikelebs arc is ar

awyobdaT, rom „nacionaluri

moZraoba“ saerTod TamaSgare

mdgomareobaSi aRmoCeniliyo.

es situacia

Zalian aZlevs xels amerikelebs,

radgan ori Zala

hyavT. umniSvnelo upiratesobiT

aris „qarTuli ocneba“

da es maTi manevris

sivrces afarTovebs. sxva

yvela partia gadarecxes am

etapze, magram, modi davukvirdeT,

ra Zala arsebobs

mixeil saakaSvilisa da

`nacionaluri moZraoba~

xelisuflebaSi dabrunebis

ramdenime scenars amuSavebs

„nacionaluri moZraobis“, saxiT.

maT arasodes araferi dauTmiaT da

sul imis demonstrirebas axdendnen,

rom ara, ar davTmobTo, xom?

axla ra mouvidaT, ra daemarTaT

amisTana, rom ase morCilad aRiares

damarcxeba da opoziciaSi gadasvla?!

aq SesaZlebelia ganvixiloT

ramdenime scenari; erTi is,

rom amerikelma partniorebma sxva

gza ar dautoves da uTxres, rom

Sen es Sedegebi unda aRiaro da me-

ore cudi scenari, warmoidgine,

SeiZleba Seiqmnas politikuri

krizisi. pirveli eqvsi Tve verc

prezidenti daiTxovs parlaments

da verc parlamenti gamoucxadebs

prezidents impiCments. am saprotesto

eleqtorats xom warmogidgenia,

rogor gaaRizianebs is, rom

radikaluri cvlilebebi pirvelive

kvireebSi ar moxdeba. Tu marTlac

Seiqmna krizisi, saakaSvils SeuZ-

biZina ivaniSvili sazRvargareT

rigiT meore vizitiT azerbaijans ewveva

koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis” lideri da

saqarTvelos premier-ministrobis kandidati

biZina ivaniSvili sazRvargareT rigiT meore

vizitiT, aSS-s Semdeg azerbaijans ewveva.

amis Sesaxeb azerbaijanuli media azerbaijan-

Si saqarTvelos elC Teimuraz SaraSeniZeze

dayrdnobiT iuwyeba. SaraSeniZis gancxadebiT,

saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis SecvliT qveynis

sagareo politika ar Seicvleba. misi TqmiT, saqarTvelosa da

azerbaijanis urTierTobebi yvela mimarTulebiT gagrZeldeba. “aSS

da azerbaijani saqarTvelos mTavari strategiuli mokavSireebi

arian”, - ganacxada man da dasZina, rom ivaniSvili aSS-s Semdeg

azerbaijans ewveva.

ivaniSvilis mier baqoSi dagegmili vizitis Sesaxeb am drois-

Tvis informacias ar floben “qarTul ocnebaSi”. rogorc “medianiuss”

ivaniSvilis partiis politikurma mdivanma sozar subarma

ganucxada, mas amis Sesaxeb araferi smenia. cnobisTvis: biZina ivaniSvili

Tavis pirvel sagareo vizits SeerTebul StatebSi gegmavs.

`medianiusi~

lia daiTxovos parlamenti, daniSnos

riggareSe arCevnebi da aq ukve

„xelebis gadagrexviT“ aiRos

umravlesoba. Semdeg ityvis, ra

gindaT, roca wavage xom vaRiare,

axla movige da ras merCiTo.

- kidev ra formiT da saSualebebiT

SeiZleba moaxerxos „nacionalurma

moZraobam“ xelisuflebaSi

dabruneba?

- erTi scenari giTxariT ukve,

Tumca arsebobs sxva scenarebic.

xom ar ggoniaT, rom SemTxveviTia

es bankebis dayaCaRebebi

an vinmes xom ar

aviwydeba, rom Sinagan saqmeTa

saministro jer kidev

sakaaSvilisa da „nacmoZraobis“

xelSia? aq er-

Ti varaudia mxolod, an

es aris provokacia „qar-

Tuli ocnebis“ diskreditaciisTvis,

rom ai, jer

ar mosulan da ukve mZarcvelebi

da qurdebi movidnen

da meores mxriv,

albaT aris garkveuli sabotaJis

elmentebic. sabanko

sistemas Sen Tu iseT

mdgomareobaSi Caagdeb,

rom ramdenime banks fuladi

resursi aRar eqneba,

garTuldeba mTeli rigi

operaciebis warmoeba qveyanaSi.

aRarafers vambob

imaze, rom aravin icis, ra dReSi

daxvdebaT xazina.

- unda vivaraudoT, rom swored

sabotaJia is „yulfi“, riTac

„nacionaluri moZraoba“ „ocnebis“

moxrCobas apirebs?

-ki, sabotaJis erT-erTi forma

es aris, rodesac Sen saSualebas

ar aZlev axladmosul Zalas xelisuflebaSi

ganaxorcielos is

cvlilebebi, romlis moTxovnilebac

sazogadoebaSi Zalian maRalia.

miT umetes, rom ase erT wuTSi da

erT dReSi ar xdeba xelisuflebis

gadabareba. warmoidgine, uzarmazari

vertikalia marTvis da

soflis rwmunebulamdec ki unda

Caxvide. arada, rogor aris, iciT?

soflis rwmunebuli SeiZleba

iyos Zalian pativcemuli adamiani,

miuxedavad imisa, rom „nacionalebze“

muSaobda. es ar niSnavs, rom

is aucileblad damnaSavea an mteria.

Zalian Znelia, am dros daicva

obieqturoba da gansazRvro es

adamiani dasatovebelia Tu ara. mere

iq arCeviTi sakrebuloebi, ar-

Ceuli gamgeblebia da am sistemis

dalagebas erT dReSi veravin ver

SeZlebs. es aris grZeli procesi

da ramdenad ganwyobilia Cveni mosaxleoba

am process daelodos,

es gamoCndeba.

lela arabuli

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12 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

gvesauubreba kavkasiis ekonommikuuri

da socialuuri kvleviTi insttittuuttis

aRmmasruulebeli direqttori,,

pproffesori daviT narmania::

_ batono daviT, cixis kadrebiT

gamowveuli mRelvareba mosaxleobaSi

dRemde ar Camcxrala. Tumca

rogorc irkveva am sadisturi

qmedebis miRma xelisufleba dapatimrebebiT

mosaxleobis uZravi qonebis

`Sewovas~ axdens. ramdenad seriozulia

es safrTxe da zogadad

ras ityodiT qveynis ekonomikur

politikaze?

_ pirvel rigSi, im sakiTxiT

daviwyoT, rasac ekonomikuri dana-

Saulis saxiT biujetSi fulis mobilizebis

politika hqvia, anu cixeSi

myofi adamianebis garkveuli

kategoria ekonomikuri daniSnulebis

muxliTaa msjavrdebuli. aqedan

gamomdinare, maTi saqmeebi ori mimarTulebiT

viTardeba: erTi _ xelisuflebasTan

SeTanxmebis miRwevis

SemTxvevaSi, isini, SeiZleba giraos

gadaxdiT gaTavisufldnen, meore

_ roca finansuri SeTanxmeba

ver xerxdeba da maT cixeSi yofna

uwevT. nebismieri biznesmenisTvis

cixeSi yofna pirdapir mis biznesze

dartymas niSnavs imitom, rom

igi iniciativiani adamiania, man saqmis

keTebaSi unda miiRos mogeba.

roca erT adamians iWeren, mas meore,

identurad ver anacvlebs, radgan

yvelas erTnairi samewarmeo

unar-Cvevebi ar gaaCnia. amitom, Tu

biznes-ideis mqone adamians apatimreben

an did jarimas akisreben, es

biznesze negatiurad aisaxeba. meore

sakiTxia, Tu rogor Soulobs xelisufleba

fuls, es biujetis

Sevsebasac exeba. biujetis garkveuli

nawili swored amgvari gzebiT

formirdeba _ jarimebiT, xelisuflebasTan

garigebis safuZvelze gadaxdili

TanxebiT. Tumca, adamians

yovelTvis ar aqvs fuli, raTa jarimebi

ixados. amitom igi iZulebuli

xdeba Tavisi uZrav-moZravi aqtivi

gayidos da Seakowiwos is resursi,

riTac xelisuflebisgan Tavis

daRwevas SeZlebs. daaxloebiT,

10 dRis win cixis kadrebis paralelurad,

dapatimrebuli biznesmenebis

sia gamoqveynda, romelTa raodenoba

erT aseulze metia. biznesmenebis

nawili xelisuflebis mier

daisaja da Sedegad, dRes maTi biznesi

saqarTveloSi warmodgenili

ar aris, kompaniebi an gakotrda, an

mniSvnelovani transformacia ganicada

da sxva mflobelis xelSi gadavida.

aris SemTxvevebi roca qoneba

saxelmwifos xelSi gadadis. es,

ra Tqma unda, biznes-garemoze uaryofiTad

moqmedebs. globaluri

konkurentunarianobis mxriv, 2012

wlis indeqss Tu moviSveliebT, saqarTvelo

144 qveynidan sakuTrebis

uflebis dacvis kuTxiT 131-e adgilzea,

rac Zalian arasaxarbielo

poziciaa. igive indeqsis mixedviT

144 qveynidan, saqarTvelo samarTlebrivi

damoukideblobisa da sasamarTlos

efeqtianobis kuTxiT 95e

adgilzea. amitom bevri erTmaneT-

Tan dakavSirebuli problemaa, rac

sabolood biznes garemoze uaryofiTad

aisaxeba da es ar aris mxolod

da mxolod calkeuli biznes-

ratom gauCnda erTbaSad yvela

biznesmens survili `nacmoZraobisTvis~

kolosaluri Tanxebi SeewiraT,

ramac, jamSi, 18 milioni lari Seadgina

menebis problema, aramed sainvesticio

garemozec uaryofi-

Tad moqmedebs. rac Seexeba meore

SekiTxvas, ekonomikur

fonze gavlena orma faqtorma

moaxdina: pirveli _ es iyo

Zalian daZabuli winasaarCevno

viTareba, rac `erTiani nacionaluri

moZraobis~, xelisuflebis

politikis Sedegad CixSi

Sevida imitom, rom sakuTrebis uflebebi

xSirad irRveoda, xdeboda

`qarTul ocnebasTan~ garkveul kav-

SirSi myof biznesmenTa ukanono dajarimeba,

maTi angariSebis dayada-

Reba. aqedan gamomdinare, 2012 wlis

mesame kvartalSi sainvesticio aqtivoba

wina or kvartalTan SedarebiT

Zalian _ 5-jer da metad

Semcirda, rac am daZabuli winasaarCevno

mdgomareobis damsaxurebaa.

meore _ cixis kadrebma, dapatimrebuli

biznesmenebis Sesaxeb informaciis

gamoqveynebam xeli Seuwyo

xelisuflebis politikisTvis ni-

Rabis Camoxsnas. amitom, CvenTan bolo

periodSi sainvesticio garemo

mniSvnelovnadaa Seferxebuli. aseve,

amas xeli Seuwyo winasaarCevno

kampaniis dros daxarjulma resursebmac.

es exeba xelisuflebis

mxridan ganxorcielebul infrastruqturul,

aseve socialur proeqtebs

_ pensiebis momatebas, vauCerebs,

dazRvevas da a.S. amitomac xelisuflebis

mxridan administraciuli

resursebis ukanonod gamoyeneba

uprecedentod maRali iyo, rac

Zalian bevrma organizaciam, damkvirvebelma

Tu eqspertma gamoavlina.

mesame _ TviTon biujetis xarjvasTan

dakavSirebuli sakiTxia.

xelisuflebam winasaarCevnod Zalian

bevri valdebuleba aiRo, samuSaos

SemsruleblebTan angariSsworeba

ki gvian xdeba, anu miReba-Cabarebis

dokumentaciis gaformebis Semdeg.

amas kanonmdebloba iTvaliswinebs,

rac xelisuflebam kargad gamoiyena,

raTa amomrCevlebisTvis ma-

Ti gulis mosagebad Zalian bevri

dawyebuli proeqti daenaxvebina. am

dros ar gaiTvaliswina, rom am yvelafers

biujetidan dafinanseba

sWirdeba. xelisuflebas bevri valdebuleba

aqvs aRebuli, romlis

gastumrebac SesaZloa am sabiujeto

mowyobis pirobebSi gaWirdes

da garkveuli valdebulebebi momdevno

wlis biujetSi gadavides.

investorebi daakvirdebian rogor

iTanamSromlebs yofili xelisufleba

koalicia `qarTul ocnebas-

Tan~, ramdenad demokratiul CarCoebSi

warimarTeba procesebi da a.S.

es momavlis saqmea da periodulad

SegviZlia SevafasoT midis Tu ara

ekonomikuri politika swori gziT.

_ sagareo valis maCvenebeli

xom isedac didia, ramdenad mizan-

Sewonilia damatebiT valis aReba?

_ sagareo valis maCvenebeli

arc ise mcirea da ra Tqma unda, da-

matebiTi valdebulebis aReba mizan-

Sewonili ar aris, Tumca, Tu es

gardauvali aucileblobaa, xelisuflebas

sxva gza ar eqneba. mTavaria

valis saxiT aRebuli Tanxa

iseT RonisZiebebs moxmardes, ramac

ekonomikuri aqtivoba unda waaxalisos.

sxva SemTxvevaSi, Tu igi

mxolod da mxolod mimdinare valdebulebebis

gastumrebas moxmardeba,

ukugeba mcire iqneba da am pirobebSi

damatebiTi valis aReba mizan-

Sewonili ar iqneba.

_ xSir SemTxvevaSi sagareo vali

aramiznobrivad ixarjeba, sazogadoebisTvis

dRemde ucnobia ras

xmardeba esa Tu is Tanxebi. Tavad

ucxouri organizaciebi ratom ar

uweven kontrols Tu raSi Caido

maT mier valad mocemuli Tanxa?

_ arsebobs garkveuli qveynebi

da organizaciebi, romelTa mier gacemuli

kreditebi miznobrivia.

Tumca, aris vali, romelsac miznobrioba

ar gaaCnia da Tavad xelisufleba

iRebs gadawyvetilebas

Tanxa ras moaxmaros. davasaxelebdi

or proeqts, romelTa dafinanseba

arsebuli resursebis pirobebSi mizanSeuwoneli

iyo: esaa quTaisis

parlamenti da lazika. SeiZleba es

valiT ar dafinansebula da amaze

biujetSi mobilizebuli Tanxa daixarja,

magram amas arsebiTi mniSvneloba

ar aqvs. roca valis aRebis

pirobebSi gviwevs ori sxvadasxva

RonisZiebis dafinanseba, umjobesi

iyo xelisuflebas is Tanxa, rasac

lazikas mSeneblobaSi da quTaisis

parlamentis aSenebaSi daxarja, daerezervebina

da sxvadasxva valdebulebis

dafinansebisTvis moexmara,

rasac dRes ucxoeTidan moziduli

kreditebiT afinansebs.

_ is gegma, rasac xelisufleba

axorcielebs mis TavSi ixarSeba Tu

xelisufleba mxolod Semsrulebelia.

qveyana sagadasaxado inspeqcias

daemsgavsa.

_ aramgonia, Cveni xelisufleba

sagareo aqtorebis an partniorebis

yvela miTiTebas pirnaTlad asrulebdes.

raRac interesebi ruseTTan

mimarTebaSi namdvilad aqvT, sxva

SemTxvevaSi Zalian bevr strategiul

obieqts maT ar Caabarebdnen.

amas pirdapir SeiZleba ruseTsa da

Cvens xelisuflebas Soris aliansi

davarqvaT. meore, raRac TamaSis wesebi

marTlac aris SemoTavazebuli,

magram ara globalurad. magaliTad,

gamovricxav, rom romelime partniori

qveynis prezidenti an saerTa-

Soriso organizacia Cveni qveynis

xelisuflebas mkacri sadamsjelo

politikis gatarebisken an mkacri

sagadasaxado administrirebisken

miuTiTebdes. formalurad rac deklarirebulia

esaa evrokavSirTan

aRmosavleT partniorobis programaSi

monawileoba, aSS-sTan ekonomikuri

TanamSromloba da a.S., romelsac

legaluri safuZveli gaaC-

nia. is politika rac tardeba, mainc

qveynis SigniT, ramodenime adamianis

TavSi ixarSeba, maT Soris

ekonomikuri politikac. faqtia,

rom libertarianulma midgomam,

benduqiZis gundis politikam ar gaamarTla,

ris Sedegsac ramdenime

welia vxedavT. es mTavrobamac aRiara

meorec, es aris mkacri xelis

ekonomikuri politika, anu SiSis

qveS myofi biznesi, romelic xelisuflebis

morCilia da Zalian xSirad

mis dakrulze cekvavs. sxvanairad,

ver warmomidgenia, ratom unda

gadaericxaT ivlisis bolos da

agvistos dasawyisSi 300-ze met

biznesmens 5-dan 60 aTas laramde

mmarTveli partiis biujetSi Semowirulobis

saxiT. am adamianebis

umetesoba saSualo da msxvili

kompaniebis damfuZneblebia, romel-

Tac ratomRac yvelas erTdroulad

survili gauCndaT, `erTiani nacionaluri

moZraobisTvis~ kolosaruli

Tanxebi SeewiraT. jamSi Sewirulobam

18 milioni lari Seadgina,

risi didi nawilic swored biznesmenebma

gadaixades. sxva SemTxvevaSi

biznesmeni yovelTvis, kargi

gagebiT, Zunwia, cdilobs dazogos

xarjebi, raTa meti mogeba miiRos.

_ xelisuflebis proeqti qveyana

siRaribis gareSe, faqtobrvad

piriqiT Sesrulda. aseve daemarTa

sxva proeqtebsac. rogori ekonomika

gvaqvs?

_ Cven gvaqvs ekonomika, romelic

ekonomikuri politikis wesebs

ar emorCileba, aramed mkacri xelis

politikiT imarTeba, rasac

xSirad ekonomikaSi Sokebamde mivyevarT.

meore mniSvnelovani sakiTxi

isaa, rom ekonomikur da socialur

politikebs Soris kavSiri ar arsebobs.

orive, cal-calke damoukideblad

xorcieldeba. amitomaa, rom

`vardebis revoluciis~ Semdeg mosulma

xelisuflebam garkveuli

reformebis gatarebiT maRal ekonomikur

zrdas miaRwia, Tumca igi

adamianis socialur mdgomareobaze

ar aisaxa. anu roca qveyanaSi maRali

ekonomikuri zrda iyo, siRaribis

zRvars qvemoT myofi adamianebis

ricxvi izrdeboda. aseve, izrdeboda

umuSevroba. amitom, radikalurad

gadasaxedia qveynis ekonomikuri

da socialuri politika. ekonomikuri

zrda saxelmwifos TviTmizani

ar unda iyos. xalxma realurad

unda naxos meti sargebeli da

ara deklarirebul doneze, romelic

mxolod da mxolod pensiis

odnav momatebas, 4 wlis manZilze

1000 lariani vauCeris darigebas

da sajaro dazRvevas gulisxmobs.

es namdvilad ar aris meti sargebeli

xalxs, aramed logikuri gagr-

Zelebaa im lozungisa, rasac erTiani

saqarTvelo siRaribis gareSe

hqvia.

_ kidev erTi problema ucxo

tomis mosaxleobaze masobrivad

gasxvisebuli miwebia. ramdenad safrTxis

Semcvelia es qveynisTvis?

_ xelisuflebas amgvari nabijebis

gadadgmisas amoZravebs erTi

ram _ biujetSi Semosavali miiRos.

amitom mas ar ainteresebs vin SeiZleba

iyos miwis mesakuTre. adre kanoniT

ikrZaleboda ucxoeli moqalaqeebisTvis

miwis miyidva, magram

meore mxriv, Zalian martivi iyo

Sps-s dafuZneba _ es mxolod 150

lari jdeboda. ucxoelebi Sps-s

afuZnebdnen da Semdeg es ukanasknelni

miwas iZendnen. sul ramdenime

Tvis win sakonstitucio sasamarTlom

precedentuli gadawyvetileba

miiRo, ris mixedviTac

ucxoelze miwis miyidva dasaSvebia.

amiT kidev ufro moxdeba imis stimulireba,

rom ucxoelebma qarTuli

miwebi SeiZinon. miTumetes, rom

es miwebi ZviradRirebuli ar aris

da masze xeli bevrs miuwvdeba. Cinelebis,

burebis, indoelebis mxridan

interesi didia. roca qarTveli

glexi xedavs, rom saxelmwifos agresiuli

politika ar gaaCnia da

saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi arsebul

miwas ucxoelebze hyidis, ra Tqma

unda, ukmayofilebis maCvenebeli ma-

Ralia. ucxoelebze miwis Sesyidva

unda SeizRudos. aseTi ram qveynis

absolutur umravlesobaSi SezRudulia.

_ ramdenad safrTxis Semcvelia

is, rom saqarTvelodan gasul moqalaqeebs

ukan dabruneba aRar SeuZliaT,

samagierod kari Riaa ucxo

qveynis moqalaqeebisTvis, esec xom

uwyobT maT xels aq damkvidrebaSi?

_ Cveni sagareo politika dafuZnebulia

principze, romlis mixedviTac

Cvens moqalaqeebs Zalian

bevr qveyanaSi SesvlasTan dakavSirebiT

SezRudvebi aqvT dawesebuli.

saqarTvelo, piriqiT, 90 dRemde vadiT

Zalian bevri qveynis moqalaqes

saerTod aTavisuflebs vizisgan.

rigi qveynebi, CvenTan Semosasvlelad

saerTod ar saWiroeben vizas.

Zalian gamartivebuli savizo reJimi

gvaqvs, rasac dadebiTic aqvs da

uaryofiTic. dadebiTia is, rom turistebi

Tavisuflad Camodian. aseve,

investorebs yovelgvari barieris

gareSe SeuZliaT Semosvla

Tumca, meore mxriv, maT aseve advilad

SeuZliaT Cveni qveynis teritoriaze

arsebuli uZravi qonebis

xelSi Cagdeba da mesakuTreoba.

_ ra Tanxebi aqvs am yvelafriT

xelisuflebas `Sewovili~?

_ aseTi globaluri cifrebi

cnobili ar aris. Tumca, cnobilia

privatizaciidan yovelwliuri Semosavlebi,

anu biujetis Sesrulebis

angariSss privatizaciidan mi-

Rebuli Semosavlebis jamuri moculoba

axlavs Tan, romelic yvelaze

meti 2006-2007 wlebSi iyo,

roca benduqiZe agresiuli privatizaciis

politikas atarebda. magaliTad,

2007 wels qveynis xelisuflebam

privatizaciidan Semosavlebis

saxiT miliardze meti mii-

Ro. imave wels biujetis 33 procenti

anu erTi mesamedi Tavdacvaze

da Sss-s organoebis dafinansebaze

daxarja. anu xelisufleba

wlebis ganmavlobaSi grZelvadian

aqtivs hyidda da am fuls moklevadian

RonisZiebebze xarjavda, rasac

ukugeba naklebad hqonda. amitom

CvenTan qoneba nel-nela amoiyida

da sul ufro mcire qoneba

rCeba da meorec _ rac ukve gayidulia,

igi kerZo mesakuTreebis

xelSia da saxelmwifos ukan veRar

daubrundeba.

Tamar SveliZe


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

`saerTo gazeTis~ dRevandel

nomerSi gvsurs warmogidginoT

adamiani, romelic 2008 wlis 27

marts e.w. `cixis buntis~ dros

gardacvlili 2 patimris advokatia

da romelic `vardebis~ xelisuflebam

xelisuflebaSi mosvlisTanave

mosamarTlis Tanamdebobidan

gaanTavisufla.

maS, ase, Cveni dRevandeli

stumaria abaSis sasamarTlos yofili

Tavmjdomare, amJamad advokati

mitrofane (mito)

sturua.

_ batono mito, e.w. cixis

buntis dros gaJRerda informacia,

rom es iyo xelovnurad Seqmnili

qaosi, romlis drosac

oficialuri monacemebiT 7 patimari

gardaicvala...

_ me ver getyviT xelovnuri

iyo Tu bunebrivi maSindeli cixis

bunti, magram erTi ram ki

faqtia, kerZod saxelmwifom, patimrebis

winaaRmdeg gamoiyena

Warbi Zala, ris Sedegadac 7 patimari

gardaicvala!

eqpertebis daskvniT dadasturebulia,

rom patimrebs cecxlsasroli

iaraRiT miyenebuli

Wrilobebi hqondaT, ris Sedegadac

isini gardaicvalnen!

_ sxeulis ra midamoebSi dafiqsirda

tyviebis kvali? da aqve,

ramdeni tyvia aqvT moxvedrili

gardacvlil patimrebs?

_ zogs 2 tyvia aqvs moxvedrili,

zogs meti da zogsac er-

Ti... rac Seexeba imas, Tu sad

aReniSnebaT patimrebs natyviarebi,

es sasikvdilo Wrilobebi maT

zurgis da kefis midamoebSi aqvT

miyenebuli!

_ e.i. SeiZleba vifiqroT, rom

patimrebi daxvrites?

_ ho, SeiZleba, asec vifiqroT...

am 7 gardacvlili patimridan

me oris advokati var. esenia

zurab kuxalaSvili da arsen

buxraSvili. am pirovnebebis

mSoblebisgan me buntidan 2 kviraSi

miviRe mindobiloba da mivmarTe

prokuraturas, raTa maT

ecnoT dazaralebulad _ dazaralebuli

mxare, CaetarebinaT miukerZoebeli

gamoZieba da daesajaT

damnaSaveebi, magram... prokuraturam

mogvwera Semdegi saxis werili,

rom: `gardacvlili patimrebi

iyvnen damnaSaveebi, agresorebi,

maT winaaRmdeg Zala Sesabamisad

iyo gamoyenebuli da dazaralebulad

ver gcnobTo~.

_ am daskvnamde prokuratura

gamoZiebis masalebiT mivida Tu

es mxolod zepirsityviereba iyo

maTi mxridan?

_ magaSia swored saqme. prokuraturam

Ziebis masalebi ar

gagvacno, miuxedavad Cemi didi

mcdelobisa, arada, kanoniT moniWebuli

uflebiT, maT CemTvis

aucileblad unda emcnoT Tu ra

procedurebis mixedviT adgendnen

isini gardacvlili patimrebis

_ kuxalaSvilis da buxraSvilis

braleulobas da ratom

iyo maT mimarT aseTi ukiduresi

zomis gamoyeneba saWiro. anu

prokuraturisgan daJinebiT

viTxovdi moecaT Ziebis masalebi,

e.i. am daskvnamde prokuratu-

ra ris safuZvelze mivida, gamigeT?

_ vin iyo maSin prokurori?

_ zurab adeiSvili. igi respublikis

prokurori iyo maSin.

amis Semdeg mivmarTe sasamarTlos

dadgenilebis gauqmebis Sesaxeb,

magram sasamarTlom Cveni

moTxovna ar daakmayofila. amis

Sesaxeb saapelacioSi gavasaCivreT

da rogorc wesia, davicaviT

yvela moTxovna, saqarTveloSi

gaviareT yvela instancia da mxolod

amis Semdeg gadavagzavneT

saqarTveloSi. gaviareT yvela instancia

da mxolod amis Semdeg

gadavagzavneT saqme strasburgis

sasaarTloSi.

_ sasamarTlom ra motiviT ar

gcnoT, ufro sworad ki ra mosazrebebiT

ar cno Tqeni dacvis

qveS myofebi dazaralebulad?

_ sasamarTlom Zalian mSralad

da mokled ganacxada, rom

ver gcnobT dazaralebul mxaredo

da rogorc ukve mogaxseneT,

radgan saqarTveloSi gamoricxuli

iyo simarTlis dadgena, amitom

mivmarTeT strasburgs! arada,

rogorc faqti metyvelebda,

uxeSad iyo darRveuli patimris

sicocxlis ufleba, saxelmwifos

mxridan Warbi Zala iqna gamoyenebuli

da strasburgis sasamarTlom

swored am kriteriumebis

uxeSad darRvevis faqtze, Cvens

mier gadagzavnili sarCeli maleve

miiRo warmoebaSi gansaxilvelad.

anu, Cven Cvens sarCelSi

mkafiod mivuTiTeT, vTxoveT

strasburgis sasamarTlos rom

saqarTvelos mxare ecnoT damna-

Saved, am patimrebis sicocxlis

mospobaSi!

_ batono mito, Tu SeiZleba

damikonkreteT, rodis SeitaneT

sarCeli strasburgSi da vin miiRo

igi konkretulad?

_ Cveni sarCeli maleve 2007

wlis 27 ianvars gavagzavneT, da

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

saqme miiRo Tea wulukianma, romelic

maSin strasburgSi muSaobda.

amis Semdeg daaxloebiT 6

TveSi Cvens saqmes mianiWes prioriteti

da (minda giTxraT, rom

aseTi ram ase swrafad ar xdeba

xolme) strasburgma daiwyo moqmedeba,

ris Semdegac saqarTvelos

mxares gadmougzavnes

SekiTxvebi pauxis

gasacemad. aRmoCnda,

rom, saqarTvelos mxarem

maT SekiTxvebs pasuxi

ki gasca, magram am

pasuxebSi isev jiutad

mWirdeboda, saqarTveloSi

CvenTvis gacemuli

pasuxebi, rac mdgomareobs

SemdegSi, rom

isini Cven mxares dazaralebulebad

kvlav ar

cnobdnen, ase rom saqarTveloSi

Catarda gamoZieba,

romliTac dadginda

Semdegi _ dazaralda

cixis administ-

racia, TanamSromlebi, patimrebis

mxridan moxda maTze Tavdasxma

da a.S. e.i. qarTuli mxare strasburgis

sasamarTlos igives umeorebda,

rasac Cven, magram aq aris

erTi seriozuli lafsusi, ker-

Zod Tuki saqarTvelos prokuraturam

marTlac Caatara miuker-

Zoebeli gamoZieba, maSin ratom

ar gagvacnes es masalebi

Cven?! aqve, mogaxsenebT

imasac, rom strasburgis

sasamarTlom, qarTuli

mxaris pasuxebi, Cvenc gadmogvigzavna

da SegvekiTxa _

ai, es aris maTi pasuxi da

rogoria am SemTxvevaSi,

Tqveni poziciao? Cven, ra

Tqma unda, kvlav vauwyeT,

maT, rom vrCebodiT Cvens

poziciaze, ar vendobodiT

da ar gvakmayofilebda qar-

Tuli mxaris mikerZoebuli

gamoZieba da radgan isini

ar aRiareben TavianT Cadenil

danaSauls, amitom

gTxovT gamoitanoT gadawyvetileba,

cnoT qarTuli

mxare (am SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos

mTavroba) damnaSaved

da misceT pasuxisgebaSi!

_ vin iyo maSin Sinagan

saqmeTa ministri?

_ vano merabiSvili!

_ sasjelaRsrulebis

departamentis ufrosi?

_ baCo axalaia, respublikis

prokurori ki zurab adeiSvili.

_ batono mito, me TavSic

gkiTxeT da axlac gekiTxebiT _

patimrebs zurgis midamoebSi rom

hqondaT tyviebi moxvedrili, es

garkveul eWvebs ar aRZravs?

_ ra garemoebebsa da ra viTarebaSi

moxda es yvelaferi, miukerZoebel

gamoZiebas unda daedasturebina,

qalbatono, magram

rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, Cven axlo-maxlosac

ki aravin gagvikara...

sxvaTa Soris, Cvens mier gadagzavnil

am saqmeze, amas winaT

qalbatonma wulukianmac isaubra...

_ gavida 6 weli... ar geCvenebaT,

rom cota daugvianda strasburgs

verdiqti?

_ maT mier ramdenime Tvis win

gamogzavnili werili, sadac garkveviT

weria, rom aRniSnul saqmeze

gadawyvetileba miRebuli

iqneba 2012 wlis bolomde.

_ e.i. Tqven dRe-dReze elodebiT

am gadawyvetilebas, xom?

_ diax, asea...

_ procedurulad, rogor aris,

mxolod Tqven gadmogigzavnian

aRniSnul gadawyvetilebas,

Tu?

_ ara, yvelas, e.i. prokuraturasac,

mTavrobasac da mec. es

gadawyvetileba maT veb-gverdzec

gamoqveyndeba maSinve...

_ batono mito, Tu sworad

migixvdiT, maSindeli Cinovnikebis

braleulobis damtkicebas

iTxovT da ra miTxariT, iciT?

baCo axalaias braleuloba, zurab

adeiSvilis da vano merabiSvilis

braleulobas, strasburgis

sasamarTlo rogor gamokve-

mitrofane sturua:

dadasturebulia, gardacvlil

patimrebs cecxlsasroli

iaraRiT hqondaT

Wrilobebi miyenebuli...

Tavs? anu, Tqveni sarCelis safuZvelze,

maTi danaSauli cxadi

rogor gaxdeba?

_ rogorc ukve mogaxsenT,

Cven strasburgisgan viTxovT,

rom patimrebis mimarT Warbi Zalis

gamoyenebis gamo, saqarTvelos

xelisufleba scnon damnaSa-

ved. Tuki strasburgidan dadebiT

pasuxs miviRebT, maSin saqarTvelos

dRevandeli mTavrobis davaleba

Caataros xelaxali gamoZieba

aRniSnul faqtze, gamoiZion,

vin miiRo Warbi Zalis gamoyenebis

Sesaxeb gadawyvetileba, vin

gasca brZaneba da vin mouspo sicocxlis

ufleba patimrebs, gamigeT?

SeiZleba mcire detalia,

magram minda sazogadoebam icodes,

rom Cemi dacvis qveS myof

zurab kuxalaSvils misjilic ki

ar hqonda...

_ es, rogor?

_ mogaxsenebT, maSin orTaWalis

e.w. cixe, sagamomZiebo izo-

saerTo gazeTi

latori gaxldaT da gardacvlili

kuxalaSvilisTvis sasamarTlo

verdiqti sasamarTlos jer

gamotanili ar hqonda!

_ raze iyo daWerili?

_ qurdobaze... igi 24 wlis

iyo maSin!

_ meore patimari arsen buxraSvili?

_ is xulignobaze iyo dakavebuli...

22 wlis gaxldaT.

_ iciT, ra mainteresebs?

vTqvaT strasburgidan dadebiTi

gadawyvetileba gamoigzavna da

saqarTvelos mxridan xelaxali

gamoZieba moiTxoves aRniSnul

saqmeze. Tqven rogor fiqrobT,

vin unda gamoiZios es yvelaferi

da sad aris imis garantia, rom

amjerad mainc miukerZoeblad iqneba

warmoebuli gamoZieba?

_ mwams, rom axali xelisufleba

xelaxal gamoZiebas aucileblad

Caatarebs da me didi

mokrZalebiT movuwodeb maT, rom

aRniSnuli saqmis gamoZieba maT

ara marto baCo axalaias braleulobamde

miiyvans, aramed sxva

maRali Tanamdebobis pirebamdec!

anu, Zalis gadametebisas axalaiam

visi brZaneba Seasrula, am gamoZiebiT

aucileblad dadasturdeba.

me vidre strasburgidan saboloo

gadawyvetileba ar mova,

mets verafers davamateb, magram

erTi ram faqtia _ roca sandro

girgvlianis mkvlelobis saqmeze

xelaxali gamoZiebis Catareba mosTxova

qarTul mxares strasburgma,

amaTma, e.i. Zvelma xelisuflebam

ar Caatara. magram dRes

sul sxva mTavroba hyavs saqarTvelos

da mjera, cixis buntis da

sxva 7 saqmeze, romelic me

strasburgSi gavasaCivre, male

yvelaferi cxadi gaxdeba.

_ ra saqmeebia danarCeni, Tu

saidumlo ar aris?

_gaxsovT `ucnobi~ policiis

sammarTvelos Robeze, rom gadaxta

da iqidan rezinis

tyviebi dauSines xalxs?

am faqtis dros 2 adamianma

Tvali dakarga. maSinac

Warbi Zala gamoiyena

xelisuflebam da amis gamo

moqalaqe daviT CantlaZem

mxedveloba dakarga.

xolo zviad ZiZigurs

Sublis are hqonda dazianebuli,

sxvaTa Soris CantlaZesTan

erTad zviad

ZiZiguris advokatic me

var strasburgSi. gaxsovT

riyeze kerZo sakuTrebebi

waarTves moqalaqeebs, ma-

Sin dazaralTa moqalaqe

cicino boWoriSvilic.

dRes am saqmesac strasburgi

iZiebs. gadavagzavni

da vasaCivreb patimar demur

anTias saqmes romelsac

avtomaturi cecxlsasroli

iaraRi Caudes.

ganxilvis sagania revaz

kldiaSvilis saqme, romelic

awames rusTavis me-6

sapyrobileSi. aseve strasburgis

sasamarTloSi gagzavnili

maqvs dazaralebuli malxaz

CitaSvilis saqme, romelsac gaaCnda

miwis nakveTi gldanis cixis

mimdebare teritoriaze da roca

samedicino dawesebuleba sapatimrod

gadaakeTes am `rekonstruqcias~

Seewira malxaz CitaSvilis

kuTvnili miwis nakveTi. nakveTi

dResac CitaSvilis saxelzea gaformebuli.

viTxovT Sesabamis

kompensacias, rasac dRemde ver

mivaRwieT. es arCevnebi, strasburgs

Cabarda 2010 wels da

2009 wels. ase, rom am saCivrebzec

gelodebi pasuxs...

irine gogosaSvili

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14 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

specrazmis Sevardna yvela ubanze igegmeboda, magram

masiuri areulobis mowyoba ver gabedes, radgan icodnen,

am SemTxvevaSi rusuli jari Tbilisisken daiZreboda

rogorc `saerTo gazeTs~

sando wyarom acnoba xaSuris

msgavsi incidentebi, rodesac

specrazmi saarCevno ubanze Sevarda

da daarbia, mTeli qveynis

masStabiT igegmeboda, Tumca

veRar gabedes. rogorc `saerTo

gazeTs~ sando wyarom acnoba,

axalgorSi mdgom ruse-

Tis jars e.w. administraciul

sazRvarTan mobilizebuli hyavda

javSanteqnika da masiuri

darbevis dawyebebis SemTxveva-

Si, Tbilisisken daiZvrebodneno.

gvesaubreba saerTaSoriso

organizacia `kavkasiel xalxTa

konfederaciis~ Tavmjdomare

zaal kasreliSvili.

_ saqarTvelos xelisuflebas

marTlac gegmavda provokaciis

mowyobas da es policielic

imitom daiWires. lafanyuris

sisxlianis specoperaciac

arCevnebs ukavSirdeba, esec

provokaciisTvis iyo gamiznuli.

albaT, gexsomebaT, sanam es

incidenti moxdeboda, erT Rames

cxinvalis mimarTulebiT

srolebi atyda (sando wyaros

informaciiT, am e.w. operaciis

drosac sami qarTveli Zalovani

daiRupa, Tumca xelisuflebam

es faqti ar gaaxmaura –

m.s.). amis Semdeg kompromatebis

omi daiwyo, amomrCevlebze ra

Zaladobac xorcieldeboda,

kargad vnaxeT. sazogadoebam

bevri ram bolomde ar icis.

RamRamobiT, ase aTi saaTis Semdeg

ojaxebSi 1000-lariani vauCerebi

da konvertebiT fuli

Ria werili baton

biZina ivaniSvils!

xomalds jer Ruza ar CauSvia...

Tqven warmatebas, romelic saparlamento ar-

CevnebiT moupoveT mTel saqarTvelos, didi movla

da gafrTxileba sWirdeba. jaWvis perangebiT

Semosili mTeli saqarTvelo unda SemogertyaT

da daicvas “qarTuli ocnebis’’ gamarjveba.

batono biZina! Tqven SesaniSnavi, erTguli da

lamazi ojaxis patroni brZandebiT, gyavT Wkviani

da kopwia meuRle, uflisgan gamorCeuli ni-

WiT dajildovebuli Svilebi, yvelaze umcrosi

meoTxe SvilisTvis erovnuli gmiris cotnes saxeli

dagirqmeviaT. Tqvens mier aSenebuli samebis

taZarSi, romelic Tqven qarTvel xalxas

aCuqeT, vnaxe patara cotne ivaniSvili, namdvil

Semofrenil angelozs hgavda. esec uflisgan

didi mxilebaa . amieridan Tqveni didi ojaxia patara

saqarTvelo.

Tqveni politikuri xomaldi Semosulia navsadguris

yureSi, magram Ruza jer kidev ar Ca-

mihqondaT, 200, 500,

1000 laris odenobiT,

zogs dasaqmebas pirdebodnen,

zogsac aSinebdnen.

marneulis raionis

erT-erT azerbaijanul

sofelSi opoziciurad

ganwyobil adgilobriv

mcxovrebs

mama gardaecvala. dasaflavebaze

vinc mivida,

yvela daiWires. xelisufleba

iseT garemos

qmnida, rom opozicionerebis

mimarT TanagrZnoba

ki ara, maT-

Tan nacnobobac saxifa-

To iyo.

rac Seexeba xaSuris incidents,

es erTiani gegmis nawili

iyo, yvela ubansa da olqSi, sadac

opozicia imZlavrebda (nacionalebis

aqtivistebi da koordinatorebi

yvela Tavisians,

vinc wlebis ganmavlobaSi maT

aZlevda, xom kargad icnoben),

iq specrazmebi unda Sesuliyo.

xaSuris msgavsi incidenti naZaladevis

raionis erT-erT ubanzec,

kerZod, kinoTeatr `saqar-

Tvelos~ siaxloves moxda. sa-

Ramos 7 saaTze, anu roca ubani

arcki iyo daxuruli, specdaniSnulebis

razmi unomro samarSruto

mikroavtobusiT mi-

vida. rogorc Cans, maT informacia

gadasces, rom bevri ucxo

amomrCeveli mivida, romlebsac

wlebis manZilze nacionalebis-

Tvis xma ar miuciaT. ramdenadac

vici, iq marto am ubnis mcxovreblebi

ki ara mTeli `naxa-

lovka~ gamovida, specrazmelebs

avtomanqanidan gadmosvlis sa-

Sualeba ar misces da stveniT

gaaciles.

_ Tqveni azriT, ratom ar

ganxorcielda es gegma, rusi

samxedroebis faqtormac xom

ar iTamaSa garkveuli roli?

_ mogexsenebaT, arCevnebamde

ramdenime dRiT adre saakaSvili

aSS-Si iyo wasuli, xolo

imave periodSi giga bokeria

moskovSi gaagzavnes sergei

lavrovTan Sesaxvedrad. ramdenadac

vici lavrovma is ar miiRo,

Tumca dimitri medvedev-

Tan Sexvedra moaxerxa. amerikelebma

gaafrTxiles saakaSvili,

rom Tu is arCevnebs gaayalbebda,

amas mohyveboda samoqalaqo

dapirispireba da ruseTi am

procesSi aucileblad Caereoda.

am SemTxvevaSi, amerikis

xelZRvaneloba politikur pasuxismgeblobas

ixsnida, saakaSvils

pirdapir uTxres, Cven

ver dagexmarebiTo. kremli

darwmunebuli iyo, rom saqar-

Tvelos xelisufleba gakotrebulia

da gayalbebis gareSe nacionalebi

ver gaimarjvebdnen,

amitomac elodebodnen arCevnebis

gayalbebas da xalxis Semdgom

reaqcias. rusebi qarTuli

opoziciisa da xalxis intere-

sebis dasacavad ki ar iyvnen

mobilizebuli, ruseTis politikuri

xelmZRvanelobis mizani

namdvilad ar iyo nacxelisuflebis

damxoba, maT is afiqrebdaT,

rom mixeil saakaSvils

kavkasiuri omi ar gaeCaRebina

uSvia. jer kidev didi problemebi gvaqvs gadasaWreli!

Tqveni gamarjveba, batono biZina, mTeli saqarTvelos

gamarjvebaa, amitom mTeli saqarTvelo

unda daudges mopovebuls erTgul darajad.

daiyeneT gverdiT mTeli saqarTvelo erTguli

meomrebi, qarTveli eri mzad aris qveynis gadasarCenad

da asaRorZineblad yvelaferi gaakeTos.

bednierebi varT, darwmunebuli var, rom qar-

Tveli eri Tqven ar giRalatebT da arc Tqven

uRalatebT qarTvel ers, es didi Tanxvedra usa-

Tuod gaaocebs msoflios da auxdens Cvens

xalxs Tqvens mier aRTqmul ocnebasac.

batono biZina, aamoqmedeT mTeli qarTuli energia.

es iqneba gamTlianeba qarTveli erisa Taobebad

gaTiSulisa da daqucmacebulisa im xelisuflebis

mier, romlisganac Tqven gagvaTavisufleT.

ox, rogori bednieri, gagvxadeT.

axla ki minda didi ilias leqsis pirveli

strofi gavimeoro:

“CvenisTana bednieri gana aris sadme eri?’’

madloba mTel qarTveli xalxis saxeliT,

lamara guruli

da Crdilo kavkasiaSi arsebuli

isedac mZime mdgomareoba

kidev ufro ar daemZimebina.

_ batono zaal, Tqven lafanyuris

specoperaciac arCevnebs

daukavSireT, iqneb am Temaze

ufro konkretulad gvesaubra?

_ es sakiTxi cixis ambebiT

gadafares, Torem es iseTi

skandali iyo, rom nacxelisufleba

amas gadayveboda. rogorc

adre giTxariT, daRestnidan aq

aravin gadmosula. evropidan

ramdenime CeCeni biWi Tavad saqarTvelos

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma

Camoiyvanes, danarCenebi

aq cxovrobdnen. madloba

RmerTs, rom ukve SesaZlebeli

gaxda obieqturi gamo-

Ziebis Catareba da simarTles

farda aexdeba, miT umetes, rom

im mebrZolebidan oTxni gadar-

Cnen da xval Tu zeg isini gamoZiebas

Cvenebas miscemen. ar

minda movlenebs win gavuswro,

magram garkveul informacias

mainc gavamJRavneb. me ramdenadac

vici, saubari iyo winasaar-

Cevnod kaxeTis mxareSi opoziciis

liderebis motaceba-likvidaciaze,

soflebSi niRbebiT

siarulsa da xalxis daSinebaze,

ar aris gamoricxuli biZina

ivaniSvilis likvidaciazec

iyo saubari, magram am biWebma

yvelaferze uari Tqves da Sesabamisad,

gasamrjelozec uari

miiRes. konfliqti amis Semdeg

daiwyo, mere iyo tyeSi gasvlac.

_ Tu es ambavi cixis skandaliT

gadafares, gamodis,

TviTon xelisufleba yofila

dainteresebuli im amazrzeni

kadrebis gamomzeurebiT.

_ diax, radgan amiT axalaiebis

klani moiSores. cixeeb-

Si arsebuli saSineli mdgomareobis

Sesaxeb informacia isedac

Jonavda, amitom mixeil saakaSvilma

isargebla da zomaze

metad gaZlierebul axalaiebis

dajgufebas daartya. ar vici,

es vano merabiSvilis xeliT

moxda Tu sxvis, magram, ar

mgonia, iq marto merabiSvilis

interesi yofiliyo. yvela

jgufis interesi iyo ukontrolo,

sisastikiT cnobili

klanis daSoSmineba. bolos

axalaiebi ise gaZlierdnen

(rogorc finansurad, ise sazogadoebrivad),

rom `mefis

karze~ pirobebis karnaxi daiwyes,

rac arc `mefes~ mowonda

da arc sxva `vezirebs~. sa-

akaSvilis interesic iyo, Torem

marto vano merabiSvili am

kadrebis gamotanas da gaxmaurebas

ver gabedavda. erTi

sityviT, saakaSvils ori kurdRlis

mokvla undoda, magram

lafanyuris sakiTxSic amxila

sazogadoebam da cixis skandalmac

mZime dartyma miayena,

sabolood ki arCevnebSic mwared

damarcxda. sad arian axla

axalaiebi ver getyviT, magram

mainc mgonia, rom yvela is

adamiani (nacmoZraobis wevri

iqneba Tu mxardamWeri), romlebsac

danaSauli aqvT Cadenili,

adre Tu gvian im qveynebSi

gaiqcevian, sadac kapitali

aqvT gatanili da dabandebuli.

Tbilisis aeroportSi maRal-

CinosanTa aqtiuri moZraobac

amas adasturebs. maT moparuli

kapitali, ra Tqma unda, ar unda

SerCeT, magram amaze mkveTri

pozicia axalma saparlamento

umravlesobam unda daikavos.

yvelaferi samarTlebriv

CarCoebSi unda moeqces, aravi-

Tari kerZo iniciativa da pirovnuli

SurisZieba. gadawyvetileba

obieqturma prokuraturam

da sasamarTlom unda

gamoitanon. damnaSaveebi, sadac

ar unda gaiqcnen, maTi moZebnis

problema ar arsebobs, interpolic

ar gvWirdeba, yvelgan

movZebniT. ukve maqvs informacia,

romel qveynebSi gamoCndnen,

jer ar minda yvelafris

Tqma, magram sam qveyanas mainc

dagisaxelebT, es aris ukraina,

belorusia da avstria.

manana suxiSvili

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

rogor SeiZleba ganviTardes procesebi

xelisuflebaSi koaliciis mosvlis

Semdeg da ras unda velodoT mixeil saakaSvilis

gundisgan? `saerTo gazeTs~

eqsperti politikis sakiTxebSi kaxa

kaxiSvili esaubra:

_ batono kaxa, Tqven saubrobdiT,

rom `nacionaluri moZraoba~ politikuri

krizisis Sesaqmnelad emzadeba.

_`nacionaluri moZraobis~ mxridan

politikuri krizisis Seqmnis niSnebi

ukve arsebobs. magaliTad, televiziebis

nawili, romelic rva wlis ganmavloba-

Si sazogadoebas xuan karlosis cxovrebiT

acxovrebda axla ukve Toq-Souebze

gadasvlas gegmaven. sxvaTa Soris, saakaSvilis

opoziciis Zala, romelic Tavidan

bolomde qveynis strategiul obieqtebs

akontrolebs. wilebs floben

`TelasSi~ `yaztransgazSi~, ramdenime

dRis win `rusTavi-2~-is aqciebis nawili

kezeraSvilma iyida da yvela variantSi

isini SeteviT reJimze

gadavlen.

mixeil saakaSvili sakmaod

bevri privilegiiT

sargeblobs da ar unda

dagvaviwydes, rom aRmasrulebeli

xelisufleba

jer kidev `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ xelSia.

arCevnebSi damarcxebis

sanacvlod saakaSvilma

maqsimalurad gawela xmebis

daTvlis procesi da

maqsimumi gaakeTa imisTvis,

rac SeiZleba meti mandatiT

Sesuliyvnen parlamentSi

da rva wlis ganmavlobaSi

dagrovili qoneba

rogorme SeinarCunon.

_ `nacionaluri moZraobis~ warmomadgenlebi

rogor SeZleben ukanonod

miTvisebuli qonebis SenarCunebas, Tu

ivaniSvili samarTlian da demokratiul

sasamarTlos aRadgens?

_ samarTliani sasamarTlos Camoyalibebas

xangrZlivi periodi sWirdeba,

radgan, Tavidan bolomde sistema axali

kadrebiTaa dasakompleqtebeli. `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ wevrebs ofSorul

zonebs da me-3, me-4 pirze aqvT qoneba

daregistrirebuli. risi dabrunebac

uaxloes momavalSi ver moxerxdeba. am

periods ki saakaSvilis gundi `qarTuli

ocnebis~ propagandistuli manqanis mu-

SaobaSi gamoiyenebs.

_ maSin ras unda velodoT mixeil

saakaSvilisa da misi gundis mxridan?

_ erTia, ras gegmavs prezidentis

gundi, ramdenad axdeba da ganxorcieldeba

maTi Canafiqri. darwmunebuli var,

`qarTul ocnebaSic~ mimdinareobs msjeloba,

Tu ra daupirispiron `nacionalur

moZraobas~, amitom koaliciis

mxridanac seriozuli oponireba iqneba.

1 oqtombers saprezidento arCevnebis

gadatana vadis gaxangrZlivebas niSnavs.

albaT, sabolooT miviRebT situacias,

rom saprezidento arCevnebi 2013

wlis 5 ianvars dainiSneba, radgan saprezidento

mandati xuTi wliT ganisazRvreba

da ar gamovricxav, Tu `qar-

Tulma ocnebam~ parlamentSi ori mesamedi

moipova konstituciaSi cvlileba

miiRos da daniSnos 5 ianvars saprezidento

arCevnebi. amasTan uaxloes momavalSi

unda vixiloT, rom `nacionaluri

moZraoba~ gaixliCeba minimum or partiad.

_ Tqveni azriT, ratom unda dadges

dRis wesrigSi saakaSvilis gundis

rRvevis sakiTxi?

_ mmarTveli gundis wevrebs erTmaneTTan

gadasarevi urTierToba arc

hqondaT. miTumetes axla erTmaneTs gadaabraleben

arCevnebis Sedegebs da yvelafers

Tavi rom davaneboT, `nacmoZraoba~

`nac.moZraobis~ saxed rom darCes

Tundac aTi wlis Semdeg, ara mgonia,

vinmes survili gauCndes maT misces xma.

_ maSin risi imedi aqvs mixeil saakaSvilis

gunds?

kaxa kaxa kaxiSvili:

vvaraudob, 2013 wlis

5 ianvars saprezidento

arCevnebi gaimarTeba

_ is periodi, rac aRmasrulebel xelisuflebaSi

aqvT maqsimalurad ecdebian

`qarTuli ocnebis~ diskreditaciisTvis

gamoiyenon. saakaSvilis opozicia gamagrebuli

iqneba fuliT, televiziiTa

da teqnologiebiT. vfiqrob, Secvlian

partiis saxels, daakompleqteben axali

adamianebiT da ecdebian amomrCeveli rogorme

SecdomaSi Seiyvanon. darwmunebu-

li var imaSic, rom deputatebi, romlebic

`nacionaluri moZraobis~ saxeliT

parlamentSi moxvdnen bevri `qarTul

ocnebasTan~ urTierTobis dalagebas Seecdeba.

ufro metic, ar gamovricxav `nacionalebis~

deputatebma calke fraqcia

Seqmnan, ar Sevidnen `nacionalebis~ saxeliT

parlamentSi da koaliciasTan

iTanamSromlon.

_ axlo momavalSi mixeil saakaSvilis

gadadgomas ar unda velodoT?

_ im SemTxvevaSi, Tu 5 ianvars saprezidento

arCevnebi ar dainiSna, maSin

saakaSvili politikuri krizisis SeqmniT

Seecdeba daiTxovos sakanonmdeblo

organo da gamorcxuli araa saparlamento

da saprezidento arCevnebi erT dRes

daniSnos.

yvelaferi damokidebulia imaze, Tu

rogor taqtikas mimarTavs koalicia

`nacionaluri moZraoba~.

miranda nabaxteveli

ra damaviwyebs cixeSi tyveobaSi myofma

qalebma 25 dRe rom viSimSileT, ukanono

ganaCenebis gadaxedvis moTxovniT da am aqciis

Sesaxeb maSin buSis administraciac ki

alaparakda. cixis administracia maxsovs,

ra dReSi gvayenebda, iseTi zewola gvqonda,

isic kargad maxsovs, paliko kublaSvili

maSin parlamentidan xelebs rogor

gviqnevda da ambobda: `ultimatumis eniT

Cven arafers gavakeTebTo~. guSin televiziiT

gamovida da utifrad ganacxada: `sa-

samarTlo damoukidebeli, Tavisufali unda

iyoso~ isev nacionaluri cinizmi, sasamarTlo,

romlis drosac erTi gamamarTlebeli

danarCeni ar gamosula da es kaci

utifrad amas ambobs. axla me cixegamovlili

Jurnalisti qali vambob ultimatumis

eniT, rom TiToeuli wina xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlis qoneba da maTi sabanko angariSebi

iqnas Seswavlili da maT pasuxi

agon kanonisa da xalxis winaSe da swored

maT mier miRebuli SekrebiTobis principiT

gasamarTldnen isini, maT xom mravali danaSaulebrivi

epizodi aqvT, romelic uvado

patimrobas iTvaliswinebs. da, Tuki ase

ar moxda, me ar minda isev virtualur qveyanaSi

vicxovro, sadac samarTali SerCevi-

Ti iqneba da samarTali purs arasdros Se-

Wams. am xelisuflebis gamoisobiT bevri

adamiani cixeSi wamebiT mokvda, jer kidev

rodis vwerdi 21 wlis lika natriaSvilis

wamebis faqtze, romelsac atitvlebdnen

kacebSi, xel-fexs ukravdnen gajiutebac

natriaSvils zewrebiT da misive tansacmliT

oWavdnen, Sesabamisi ineqciebiT adunebdnen.

orma depresiaSi Cavardnils scemdnen,

Semdeg Sizofreniis iZulebiTi mkurnalobis

mizniT qviTiris fsiqiatriul

klinikaSi gaamweses, sadac

gogonam Tavi CamoixrCo. ramdeni

qali gagiJda qalTa cixeSi

ar vici, afxazeTidan

ltolvil gogonas lela

naWyebias ra bedi ewia, igi

saRsalamaTi daapatimres naklebad

mZime danaSaulisTvis,

cixeSi Tavs autaneli SromiT

irCenda. bolos fsiqiurad

SeiSala, mTeli dReebi mReroda,

vin mosTvlis ramdenma

qalma dakarga fsiqika da janmrTeloba,

ramdeni gulgrilobis

da araadamianuri pirobebis

Sedegad gardaicvala.

vinc gadavrCiT, odesme welSi

xom unda gavswordeT. kargad vxedav, rom

gveleSapi jer kidev moizlazneba, bevri

Caylapa, bevri aRmogvanTxia da amonTxeulebi

1 oqtombers fexze davdeqiT imitom,

rom samarTlian qveyanaSi vicxovroT da

ara iseT qveyanaSi, sadac cixis administraciis

SeWmuli 12 milioni rom gaepravebinaT,

qalTa buntis provocireba moawyves,

buntis usamarTlo sasamarTloze ubedur

patimrebs daabrales 12 milioni zaralis

saxelmwifosTvis miyeneba. maSin gazeT `asaval-dasavlis~

furclebidan vkiTxe maSindeli

ministrs, SaSkins, ori fanqara da

saerTo gazeTi

msoflio istoriaSi ar

meguleba iseTi jalaTi

qali, rogoric

xaTuna kalmaxeliZe iyo

erTi ficruli butka 12 milioni RirdameTqi?

misi brZanebiT, udanaSaulo qalebi

awames aRdgoma dRes. gamoyenebuli iqna

eleqtro Soki. sruliad udanaSaulo qalebs

miayenes fizikuri Seuracxyofa. Semdeg

ki rusTavis `kritSi~ gadasaxlebuli

qalebi Cveni eris sulierma mamam moinaxula

da SaSkini mis zurgs amofarebuli nawameb

qalebs gvaTvalierebda _ cocxlebi

viyaviT Tu ara...

bevri ministris mmarTvelobas moveswari

da gulwrfeli viqnebi Tu vityvi, rom

yvelaze mwamebeli da sazizRari ministri,

xaTuna kalmaxeliZe iyo. TviT baCo axalaiac

ki ar gamoirCeoda qali patimrebis mimarT

aseTi usulgulobiT. patimar kaceb-

Tan ras sCadioda is. axalaias SeeZlo patimar

qalebTan dialogi, SaSkinis stumroba

qalTa cixeSi viciT, rogorc dasrulda,

kalmaxeliZesTan ki rogor ar vecadeT,

rom Segvxvedroda, igi cixeSi yovelTvis

farulad dadioda da mas erTi sasikeTo nabijic

ar gadaudgams patimari qalebis

mdgomareobis gasaumjobeseblad. misi ministrobis

dros katastroful cifrs miaRwia

patimrebis sikvdilianobam. igi imdenad

mwamebeli qali iyo, rom 2011 wlis dadgomamde

sul raRac 1 kvira rom iyo dar-

Cenili, ise agvyara matrosovis cixidan da

rusTavis daumTavrebeli cixis svel kedlebSi

Cagvamwyvdia axali wlis dReebSi ise

rom Cvenma patronebmac ki ar icodnen sad

viyaviT, radgan telefoniT dakavSirebac ki

agvikrZales, rom ara gabeduli da uSiSari

patimari qalis protesti axali wlis

Ramesac ar gamogvaxedebda saknebidan. me ar

meguleba msoflios sapatimro istoriaSi

kidev aseTi meore mwamebeli qali rogoric

xaTuna kalmaxeliZe iyo. me amis Sesaxeb cixis

kedlebidanac vwerdi, marto axla ki

ara, roca `gemidan napirze~ gadmovedi, magram

maSin sazogadoebam samwuxarod, dumda.

CemTvis gaugebaria, sazogadoebis risxva

marto axaliebis mimarT ratom aris gam-

Zafrebuli? dauviwyoT giorgi baramiZes

afrasiZeebis ojaxis amowyveta? dauviwyoT

merabiSvils ministrobis periodSi ramdeni

axalgazrdis fizikuri likvidacia moxda,

arafers vambob girgvlianis tragediaze.

dauviwyoT qalbaton kalmaxeliZis wamebis

faqtebi da cocxebiT kacebis gaupatiureba.

kublaSvils vapatioT, rom misi Tavmjdomareobis

dros sasamarTlo xelisufleba

dasamarda? da kidev sxvadasxva uwyebebis

xelmZRvanelebs rac Caidines am wlebis man-

Zilze?!

yvelaferi vapatioT? isini kidev ra

axal codvas dagvatexen Tavze kacma ar

icis.

bolos, naTqvamia, sofels erTi giJi

unda hyavdeso, magram es giJi maincdamainc

isev TvalSi unda gveCxirebodes, xom SeiZleba

Tavis jariskacebianad wavides Cveni

cxovrebidan?!

Tu saakaSvili, merabiSvili da Zmani

misni ar midian da arc imalebian, Zmebi axalaiebi,

Wakuebi, megis qardava da kidev bevri

mimalvaSi ratom arian?..

nana sulava

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16 saerTo gazeTi masalebi qarTuli `niurnbergis procesisTvis~

#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

saqarTvelos prezidentis

mixeil saakaSvilis gancxadeba:

`svaneTSi Catarebuli iqna specoperacia

da kriminaluri dajgufebebis

dakaveba Cemi davalebiT

moxda. kriminaluri jgufi

ukve namdvil bandad Camoyalibda

da 12 wlis ganmavlobaSi

aterorebda svaneTs. maT aTeulobiT

adamiani hyavT mokluli.

wina xelisuflebam maTi dakaveba

ver SeZlo...~

kvlav saqarTvelos prezidenti

mixeil saakaSvili (14 ivlisi,

2010 weli 14.00 telekompania

`imedi): _ `minda movikiTxo

qarTveli banditebi, romlebmac

gadawyvites, rom mestia,

ratomRac, maT ekuTvniT. Cven

Tavis droze ganvaxorcieleT iq

specoperacia, vertmfrenebidan

avafeTqeT koSki. am operaciaSi

menaneba is, rom koSki afeTqda,

imitom, rom banditebi CemSi sibraluls

ar imsaxureben, vinc iq

iyo da vinc dapatimrebuli iqna,

pirdapir ro vTqva, Tumca, yve-

la adamiani mecodeba, ra Tqma

unda, es iyo is afrasiZe...~

batonma prezidentma ar daazusta,

vin iyvnen is banditebi,

romelTa gasanadgurebladac

aviacia gaxda saWiro da arc is,

vertmfrenebis garda ra Seiara-

Reba da ra Zala iqna gamoyenebuli,

sxvaTaSoris, arc is, rom am

e.w specoperaciaSi ucxo qveynis

samxedro pirebic iRebdnen monawileobas!

afrasiZeebis ojaxis winaaRmdeg

Catarebul specoperaciaSi

monawileobdnen: Ss saministros

guluas saxelobis specdaniSnulebis

razmi, Ss saministros

Sinagani jaris specrazmi, uSiSroebis

saministros antiteroristuli

centris specrazmi,

samegrelo-zemo svaneTis samxareo

policiis mTeli piradi Semadgenloba

da amave dros specrazmi,

mTlianobaSi 1000-mde

niRbiani, romelTa SeiaraRebaSi

iyo: avtomatebi, yumbarmtyorcnebi,

`muxebi,~ da tanksawinaaRmdego

yumbarmtyorcnebi; specoperaciaSi

monawileobdnen, agreTve:

12 vertmfreni_Sveulmfreni,

amerikuli `irokezebi~ da rusuli

ÌÈÏ-8.

mkiTxvels, romelsac, Tundac

imitom, rom 30 wlis win

fizikurad ar arsebobda amqveynad,

anda, sulac mcirewlovani

iyo (rogorc specoperaciis monawileni),

prezident saakaSvilis

gancxadebaze aucileblad

gauCndeba kiTxva, gana ra kriminaluri

jgufi iyo aseTi moxelTebeli,

romelic Semdeg bandad

Camoyalibda, da sabWoTa miliciamac

ver SeZlo misi gauvnebelyofa,

miT umetes, rom aTeulobiT

adamiani hyoliaT moklulio.

dodo sidiani-afrasiZe: _

`imitom mogvivida es yvelaferi,

rom ase awyobdaT...~

`saerTo gazeTi~ iwyebs publikaciaTa cikls im

danaSaulebaTa Sesaxeb, romlebic 2003-2012 wlebSi

Cadenilia saqarTvelos xelisuflebisa da

uSualod prezidentis monawileobiT.

vis awyobda? _ bunebrivia,

daismis kiTxva, Tumca mivyveT

movlenebs.

anzor gabiani, iuristi, sociologi,

mecnierebaTa doqtori,

sazogadoeba `lemis~ nafic

msajulTa sabWos wevri,

damnaSaveobis problemebis

mkvlevari da

araerTi monografiisa

da mecnieruli naSromis

avtori, 2000

wels, rodesac regionaluri

mowyobis Sesaxeb

esaubreboda `mar-

Tali gazeTis~ Jurnalisti,

mis SekiTxvaze,

`iq xom afrasiZeebi

arian, romelTa moxel-

Teba mTavrobam ver

SeZlo?~ amgvari pasuxi

gasca: _ `ufross,

danaSauli, TiTqmis 40

wlis win aqvs Cadenili.

marTalia, afrasiZeebis Semorigebis

Tu datyvevebis yvela

mcdeloba dRemde uSedegod dam-

Tavrda, magram isic marTalia,

rom isini mosaxleobis Zarcvas

ar misdeven da Taviseburi gagebiT,

mSvidobian cxovrebas ewevian,

amitom, maTi dapatimrebis

Semdgomi mcdeloba, me ara mxolod

uperspeqtivod, aramed,

uazrodac meCveneba. aba, warmoidgineT,

ramdeni amnistia gamovida

am wlebis manZilze, amitom,

rogor arastandartuladac

ar unda mogveCvenos maTi

yofa, vacadoT maT mSvidobiani

cxovreba.

me meCveneba, rom Wkviani xelisufleba,

afrasiZeebis ojaxs

didebulad gamoiyenebda `ostrie

oSuSenies~ moyvaruli

ucxoeli turistebis mosazidad,

romlebic did fuls gadaixdidnen

amgvari araordinaluri

yaCaRebis gasacnobad. me ar

vicnob afrasiZes, magram eWvi ar

mepareba, is metad saintereso

personaa JurnalistisTvis, mwerlisTvis,

masze kargi wigni daiwereba,

xolo sazogadoebisTvis,

is namdvilad araa saSiSi...~

anzor gabianis sityvebi Cven

dRes gavixseneT, Torem xeli-

2003-2012 wlis

sisxliani qronikebi

suflebam `Wkua~ ixmara da legendad

qceuli afrasiZeebis

ojaxi turistebis gasarTobad

ki ara, saTavisod gamoiyena,

Tumca ra saxiT da rogor, TandaTanobiT

ganvavrcoT.

vaxtang jafariZe, warsulSi

sisxlis samarTlis samZebros

sammarTvelos ufrosis I moadgile,

polkovniki: _ `pativcemulma~

baramiZem (Sss ministri

afrasiZeebze ganxorcielebuli

specoperaciis dros-m.W) ganacxada

televiziiT, artileriiT

gviwevdnen winaaRmdegobaso,

ra aris amoRebuli nivTmtkicebis

saxiT?

me kavSirebi maqvs da vici,

rom roca tyviebis wvima wamovida,

evgeni aivanze xelebaweuli

gavida daWrili. or Zmas daades

borkilebi, mesame ki, borkilebdadebuli,

uiraRo biWi xalxis

Tvalwin daxvrites. borkilbdadebuli!

me samamulo omSi,

frontze viyavi, `razvedCiki,~

aseTi ram ar minaxavs, es ra operaciaa?!~

maT, visac `vardebis

revoluciamdel~ saqarTveloSi

mouwia cxovreba, axsovT

qalaqis erTi kuTxidan

meoreSi gadaadgilebisas,

rogor natrobdnen,

rom metros Cabnelebul

gvirabSi ar moxvedriliyvnen

denis gaTiSvis dros.

`energetikuli krizisi~

_ ase erqva im dros im

saqmianobas, romelsac sinamdvileSi

sxva saxeli

unda darqmeoda.

krizisis mizezad xan

TviT saqarTvelos mosaxleoba

saxeldeboda, TiTqosda imis

gamo ar iyo Suqi, rom moxmarebuli

eleqtroenergiis safasurs

ar ixdidnen, xan meteorologiuri

faqtorebi, zafxulSi gvalva,

rac wylis dones viTom ise dabla

swevda, rom SeuZlebeli iyo

hesebis mier elqtroenergiis gamomuSaveba,

zamTarSi qari, romelic

TiTqosda maRali Zabvis

eleqtrogadamcem kabelebs wyvetda.

Tavdapirvelad, xalxs sjeroda

amgvari `mfrinavi xaliCis

zRaprebis,~ magram nel-nela buranidan

gamosvla rom daiwyes,

gaCnda axali mizezi, amjerad

kriminaluri datvirTvis. xmamaRla

da oficialurad aravin ambobda,

magram rogorc sabWoTa

uSiSroebas sCveoda, im stilSi

gaavrceles xma, rom, Turme, ra-

Rac `svanuri dajgufeba~ aSanta-

Jebda `energomamebs.~ amas garda,

gamoCdnen svanuri gvaris calkeuli

pirebi, romlebic, maTi

sacxovrebeli adgilis Tavze ma-

Rali Zabvis gadamcemi kabelis

moSlas iTxovdnen janmrTelobaze

uaryofiTi zemoqmedebis gamo.

adamianebma, romlebic odiTganve

iq cxovrobdnen, uecrad `aRmoaCines,~

rom maT janmrTelobas safrTxe

emuqreboda, Tumca ratom

gaiara `im~ safrTxem, gaurkveveli

darCa.

cota xanSi xma gavrcelda,

rom denis mowodebaze pirdapir

moqmedebdnen svani afrasiZeebi,

romlebic, Turme Tu daTqmul

dros daTqmul Tanxas ar miiReb-

dnen, ruseT-saqarTvelos mTavar

damakavSirebel maRali Zabvis

eleqtrogadamcem xazebs gawyvetdnen,

an aafeTqebdnen. gamodioda

ise, rom viRac afrasiZeebi

marTlac asrulebdnen danaqadns

da vinaidan rTuli, mTagoriani

reliefis gamo eleqtrogadamcemi

xazebis aRdgenas sakmao dro

da asiaTasobiT dolari sWirdeboda,

visxediT ukuneTSi...

mokled, pankisidan margoSviliT

gvaterorebda viRac uxilavi,

svaneTidan afrasiZiT,

Tumca gansxvaveba is iyo, rom

afrasiZeebi arsad gamoCenilan,

amdenad, maTi idumalebiT moculi

arseboba ufro idumals

xdida maTive arsebobas...

im ucnaurma damTxvevebma,

rom eleqtroenergiis gaTiSvis-

Tanave arasamTavrobo organizaciebis

mobilizebuli aqtivistebi

yiJiniT moagorebdnen momaragebul

saburavebs gzis gadaketvis

da koconis gaCaRebis muqariT

da `uunaro mTavrobis~ gadayenebis

moTxovnis motiviT,

ramdenjerme gameorebis Semdeg,

moazrovne adamianebs kiTxva ga-

uCina, `ki, magram, saidan ician

am axalgazrdebma winaswar rodis

ganaxorcieleben `svanuri

dajgufebis~ wevrebi morig diversiul

aqtso?~

maSin xma gavrcelda, rom

axalgazrdebis moZraobis sulisCamdgmeli

qarizmatuli miSa

saakaSvili iyo, Tumca mas ki ar

hqonda raRac kavSirebi e.w `svanur

dajgufebasTan,~ aramed zurab

Jvanias Tanagundels, parlamentis

Tavdacvisa da uSiSroebis

komitetis maSindel Tavmjdomares

giorgi baramiZes da igi

awvdida informacias miSas.

Wori Woria, Tumca masac

aqvs arsebobis ufleba _ Tu

Wors gayveboda kaci, gamovidoda,

rom miSa arafer SuaSi iyo,

magram viRacebi ki afeTqebinebdnen

Tu azianebinebdnen saWiro

dros aseve viRacebs im gadamcem

xazebs da es kargad icoda swored

baramiZem, Tavis Suamaval-

Semsruleblebianad.

mixeil saakaSvilis gaprezidentebidan

mcireoden xanSi

xalxis mier energodiversiaSi

eWvmitanili giorgi baramiZe saqarTvelos

Sinagan saqmeTa ministrad

dainiSna da prezidentis

inauguraciis ori Tvis Tavze

saCvenebeli sadamsjelo far-

TomasStabiani specoperacia moawyo

e.w `svanuri dajgufebis~

winaRmdeg, romelTa vinaobac

ojaxis wevrebiT Semoifargla:

asakovani evgeni afrasiZe, misi

meuRle dodo sidiani, goCa da

omex afrasiZeebi, Smagi afrasiZe

meuRliTa da mcirewlovani SvilebiT,

romelTagan ufrosi 13

wlis iyo, umcrosi 3 wlis...

giorgi afrasiZe, Smagi afrasiZis

Svili, romelic specoperaciis

dros 13 wlis iyo: _

`me da babuas erT oTaxSi gveZina,

gverdze oTaxSi Cemi

biZebi iwvnen. meZina da babuam

rom gamaRviZa, vertmfrenis

xma gavige, rasac,

daaxloebiT erT wuTSi

srolac mohyva, sroliT

Semovidnen, pirdapir

saxls esrodnen. babuam

Tqva, bavSvi gaiyvaneT saxlidano

da TviTon xelebaweuli

gavida aivanze, yviroda,

ar isroloT, bavSvia

saxlSi, gnebdebiT,

gnebdebiTo, am dros babuas

ukve tyvia moxvda da

daeca. goCam damiZaxa, Semodi

saxlSio da mec Sevirbine.

daaxloebiT xuTi

wuTi isrodnen gabmiT. cota

rom SeCerda, biZaCemma, goCam

miTxra _ mezobelTan gadagiyvano

da xeli momkida. Cvens zemoT

aris koSki, sadac specrazmelebi

da snaiperebi iyvnen da iqidan

daiwyes srola. Cven rom gavrbodiT,

xis boZebia da imas xvdeboda,

erTma tyviam SarvalSi gamiara.

biZaCemma mezobelTan damtova

da ukan gabrunda babuas saxlSi,

egeba cocxali gadarCeso.

sadac biZiam Semiyvana, im saxlsac

srola dauwyes da im mezobelma

meore mezobelTan gadamiyvana

da iqidan vuyurebdiT, ra

xdeboda. erTi yumbara esroles

babuas saxls da wamebSi cecxli

moekida mTel saxls... srolebi

rom damTavrda, babua ar vicodi,

sad iyo da marto darCenils

saxlSi mindoda Sesvla, magram

specrazmelebi ar miSvebdnen.

bevri vexvewe da rogorc iqna,

SemiSves... mTel ojaxs aginebdnen,

eg gindodaT da eg gagike-

TeT, Tqveni dedao...

maia WeliZe

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

jemal davlianiZe

jaba ioseliani

(`omi daiwyo... xalxma

ar icis sad wavides~):

`erTi sityviT, omi gaCaRda. mis

SeCerebas didi Zalisxmeva dasWirdeba

samive mxridan _ Cvengan, afxazebisgan

da rusebisagan. vkribav mxedrions.

SeiaraReba sustia. saSovnelia

Wurvebi da tyviawamali. visgan? isev

rusebisgan... kitovani da sigua arafers

iZlevian... telefoniT velaparakebi

general sigutkins. igi mpasuxobs:

`Cven omi ar gvinda gagrZeldes,

amitom iaraRian xalxs iqiT ar vuSvebT~.

veubnebi, rom `Tqveni saqme ar

aris, Cven sad gavgzavniT iaraRians

da sad _ uiaraRos~. yurmils vukideb...

unda gavfrinde TbilisSi, davarwmuno

SevardnaZe, kitovani, sigua

da yvela Zalovani uwyeba, rom mTeli

yuradReba daeTmos gagras. erTi, ra-

Sic daviTanxme kitovani, raSic SevardnaZec

damexmara, aris is, rom 100

avtomats gavugzavni axlad Camoyalibebul

gagris batalions... eSeraSi,

laboratoriasTan Seteva CaifuSa. amboben,

brZolaSi rusebi Caerivneno.

TviT yaryaraSvils ver gaugeb, xan

erTs ambobs, xan _ meores. viTomc ar

gauSves win, magram vin ar gauSva,

amas ver ambobs. eseni SeiZleba yofiliyvnen

an SevardnaZe, an kitovani...

am bolo dros (daaxloebiT 1997-

1998 w. _ j.d.) SevardnaZem erTi gasaocari

ram aRiara: elcinma telefoniT

amikrZala laboratoriasTan

miaxloeba da win wasvlao. ki, magram

amis Sesaxeb prezidiumis wevrebs, an,

saerTod, xalxs oTxi wlis Semdeg

unda gaego? (ai,ra xerxebiT moqmedebs

SevardnaZe afxazeTSi wamowyebuli

omis dros. _ j.d.)...

moskovis SeTanxmebisamebr SevardnaZe

TbilisSi niSnavs afxazeTis

qarTuli mxaris komisias. Tavmjdomared

_ Tengiz siguas. komisia gosdaCaze

ikribeba: Tavmjdomare _ Tengiz

sigua, moadgile boris pastuxovi,

sagareo saqmeTa ministris moadgile

general-polkovniki giorgi kondratievi,

Tavdacvis ministris moadgile

vorobiovi... mTavari sakiTxia, ra

pirobebSi da rogor unda Sewydes

cecxli. Semdeg moxda is, rasac me

vvaraudobdi. gadaudebel saqmeze,

Tengiz sigua, oTxi dRiT parizs miemgzavreba.

me Camovdivar TbilisSi.

gagraSi kvlav omia (es yovelive SevardnaZis

oinebia! mas arafriT ar

surda saomari moqmedebebi Sewyvetiliyo

afxazeTSi. saWiro iyo saqmis

bolomde miyvana. amitomac Tengiz sigua

moaSora iqaurobas, komisiis mu-

Saoba CaiSala da omi gagrZelda! _

j.d.)... SevardnaZes kavSiri aqvs yaryaraSvilTan,

romelic jer kidev soxumSia.

gagraSi Cadis ukve iseT

dros, roca qalaqi TiTqmis Cabarebulia.

... Sevdivar SevardnaZesTan. igi

wamowiTlebuli ismens gia yaryaraSvilis

isteriul yvirils, romelic

yurmilidan gamodis. SevardnaZe uyvavebs:

`ai, jabac aq aris, or saaTSi

samasi kaciT TqvenTan iqneba. gia, ar

ginda ra, magisTana rameebi...~

yurmils varTmev. mesmis: `damtoveT,

xom? gagvyideT, ara?~ isev SevardnaZe

awynarebs: `ar ginda, Svilo,

dawynardi~.

`Svilo~ uSvelis saqmes? gavrbivar

aeroportSi. iq 250 mxedrioneli

ukve TviTmfrinavSi jdeba (gia yaryaraSvili,

ra Tqma unda, marTlac gaimeta,

gayida da miatova SevardnaZem,

radgan afxazeTis avantiura ise unda

waego, rogorme ruseTs da qarTvel-

Ta ususurobas dabraleboda! _ j.d.).

soxumis aeroportSi areulobaa.

gagridan da leseliZedan gamoyvanilma

xalxma ar icis, sad wavides, ra

qnan. aqve arian meomrebic.~

jaba ioseliani

(`SevardnaZes ar scalia...

ikargeba CvenTvis

gankuTvnili

samxedro qoneba~):

`mivdivar soxumSi. gosdaCaze.

mTavari yuradReba gadatanilia jaris

gamoyvanaze... arada, ras niSnavs,

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-42

roca mteri saSualebas gaZlevs, datovo

iqauroba? sad midixar? 700

kaci mTeli jaria. aseTi mTagoriani

adgilia. gadi, daiwye partizanuli

brZola... Cven Tu axla iqidan gamovdivarT,

mere iq Sesvla Zneli ki ara,

SeuZlebeli iqneba. sad aris kitovani?

TbilisSia. sad aris samSvidobo

komisiis `prestiJuli~ Tavmjdomare

sigua? saqarTveloSi saerTod ar

aris! SevardnaZe? gagris dacemis Semdeg,

saRamos, SevardnaZe Sexvda general

kondratievs. maSin me amas yuradReba

aRar mivaqcie. Cven faqtis

winaSe dagvayenes.

raRa azri hqonda, Sexvdeboda Tu

ara rusTa generals... magram, axla,

roca sami weliwadi gavida gazeT

`parlamentSi~, romlis redaqtori

erTi mliqvneli vinme, gia lomaZea,

Zalian saintereso cnobam gaielva (es

gamoqveynebulia 1995 wlis ivlisis,

agvistos an seqtembris nomerSi). general

avTandil cqitiSvilis mogonebebSi,

sadac SevardnaZes aqebs da adidebs,

erTi aseTi pasaJia: gagris dacemis

Semdeg SevardnaZe viTom im Ramesve

Sexvedria general-polkovnik

kondratievs da sakadrisi pasuxi gaucia

gagris ase veragulad dakavebis

gamo. kondratievs SeuTavazebia: `me

axla SemiZlia erTi ram - mSvidobia-

ni mosaxleobis dacvis mizniT gagra-

Si Seviyvano ori batalioni `deSebe~.

amaze SevardnaZe ufro gabrazebula

da uTqvams: `es iqneba aneqsia. Cven

amas ar davuSvebT~. es magonebs SemdgomSi

soxumis dacemasTan dakavSirebul

analogiur moments da amitomac

vambob: ai, es aris sufTa populizmi!

romel aneqsiazea laparaki? ra, gagraSi,

gudauTaSi, an Tu ginda soxum-

Si, ruseTis jaris nawilebi ar dganan?

kaci kisrulobs mosaxleobis

usafrTxoebas da Sen aq raRac qimerul

politikur ambiciebs ahyolixar?

ar Seasrulebs? ver Seasrulebs?

davuSvaT! magram pasuxismgeblobas

xom iRebs? es ar unda gamoiyeno

pragmatikosma politikosma?

amis Sesaxeb me araferi vicodi, axla

rom ar wamekiTxa. verc davijerebdi,

imitom, rom es viTareba kvlav ganmeorda

graCovs da SevardnaZe-yaryaraSvil-baTiaSvilis

Sexvedris dros,

rasac mohyva kidev ufro tragikuli

Sedegebi (jaba ioselians ukvirs da

SevardnaZis Ralats, gamcemlobas,

populizms adarebs, rasac gagris mosaxleobis

amoJleta mohyva! _ j.d.).

CemTan modian rusi oficrebi,

specialistebi sahaero Tavdacvis

dargSi, mTxoven Caverio maTi likvidaciis

saqmeSi. iqneb Cvenc rogorme

SevinarCunoT es miliardebad Rirebuli

danadgarebi, an iqneb sulac

moskovTan movilaparakoT, Cven xom

gvWirdeba sahaero Tavdacva. SevardnaZes

saamisod ar scalia. saerTod,

rusebTan molaparakebisagan Tavs ikavebs.

is kompleqsi, rom igi ar aris

kremlis agenti, jerjerobiT magrad

muSaobs. arada, uTavbolod ikargeba

CvenTvis gankuTvnili samxedro qoneba

(SevardnaZes evroamerikelebisagan

ra davalebac aqvs micemuli, imas

pirnaTlad asrulebs. mas afxazeTSi

omis mogeba ki ara, wageba aqvs ganzraxuli

da ratom daelaparakeba moskovs,

anda rus oficrebs, samxedro

aRWurvilobis SesaZenad? _ j.d.).

... kvlav vxvdebi SevardnaZes. dawvrilebiT

vixilavT afxazeTis sakiTxs.

me vurCev, daukavSirdes ruse-

Tis prezidents elcins da SesTavazos

molaparakebis dawyeba afxazTa

mxaris TandaswrebiT, razec mpasuxobs:

`ara, jer ara! Cven raRac samxedro

warmatebebs unda mivaRwioT

da mere ioli iqneba maTTan molaparakeba~.

SevardnaZe ukve omisa da zavis

sakiTxSic aRar mendoba. `Rirseulad

davamTavroT omi!~- wamdauwum gaiZaxis.~

jaba ioseliani

(`me-3 batalioni gamoiqca. me-

2 batalions Zlivs vakavebT.

soxumis Semosasvleli Riaa~):

`... am ori dRis win SevardnaZe

Sexvedria ruseTis Tavdacvis ministrs

pavel graCovs. `miTxra, ara-

feri SemiZlia, afxazebma SeTanxmeba

daarRvies, axla, Tu gindaT, or divizias

Semoviyvan da ganvalageb gumisTaze,

mere dasxediT da moilaparakeTo~.

`mere~ _ vekiTxebi. `araferi,

uari vuTxari~. `ratom?~ _ `yaryaraSvili

da baTiaSvili maxldnen. maT

Tqves _ Tu es moxdeba, Cven gadavdgebiT,

es aneqsia ariso~.

... SevardnaZe aqtivTan Sexvedraze

informaciis saxiT hyveba graCovis

winadadebis Sesaxeb... TiTqmis yvelani

urCeven, rom daTanxmdes da daukavSirdes

graCovs. me ver viTmen da

vambob: `aneqsia! viTomc soxumSi rusis

jari ar aris? an bomboraze sul

xevsurebi dganan?~ (SevardnaZes aSkarad

ar surda arc afxazebTan molaparakeba

da arc rusebis daxmarebiT

miRweuli mSvidoba. mas, davalebuli

hqonda mis mierve gaCaRebuli

omis eskalacia da ara Caqroba! _

j.d.).

Cemi rCeviT, viTomc xom gadawyda

artileriisa da teqnikis axal aTon-

Si da maWarkaze dakonserveba? ratom

ar moxda es? vin ugulebelhyo Cemi

rCeva? (jaba ioseliani sul tyuilad,

yasidad kiTxulobs Tu vin gamogvatanina

afxazeTidan artileria

da mZime teqnika. icis, gana ar icis,

amas SevardnaZis meti, vervin ver SeZlebda!

_ j.d.) an is ras hgavda, skolebSi

rom swavla aRvadgineT, bavSvebi

da qalebi soxumSi davabruneT...

stalini rom stalini iyo, iman moaxdina

naxevari qveynis evakuacia mosaxleobis

uSiSroebis mizniT...

me-3 batalioni gamoiqca da soxumSi

pirdapiri Semosasvleli Riaa.

me-2 batalionsac Zlivs vakavebT. _

gveubnebian brZaneba miviReT, poziciebi

imitom davtoveTo. vin gasca brZaneba,

amas ver vazustebT.

mivdivar mTavar StabSi Sevardna-

ZesTan. aulagebel loginze wevs da

meubneba: `mTeli Rame ar meZina. vfiqrobdi.

gadavwyvite, esengeSi Sesvlas

daveTanxmo. sxva gamosavali araa~.

SevardnaZes, amxela gamocdilebis

kacs, gana ar unda scodnoda, rom

ruseTi Tavis sasicocxlo interesebs

ase iolad ar moeSveboda? maS

raRas yoCob? maSin raRad minda politikuri

lideri?

axla erTi ram dagvrCenia: rac

SeiZleba didxans SevinarCunoT soxumi

da amasobaSi, raki esengeSi SevdivarT,

iqneb rusebma Tavi dagvanebon.

mTavrobis saxlSi Jiuli Sartavaa

Tavisi zogierTi TanamSromliTa

da dacviT. SevardnaZe apirebs iq misvlas

da Jiulis wamoyvanas. telefoniT

vukavSirdebi: `batono Jiuli!

rogoraa saqme?~ pasuxi wynaria, ra-

Rac sasowarkveTili niSnis mogebiT:

`isvrian... aq pirvel sarTulze arian

SemoWrili~... SevardnaZe Tavisi `amerikelebiT~

_ 50-kaciani specjgufiT

da Cemi dacviT miveSurebiT mTavrobis

sasaxlisken. misadgomebTan tyviamfrqvevebidan

gvixsnian cecxls. gadmovdivarT

manqanebidan,

gasarkvevia, rogor da

saidan sjobs mivudgeT.

sibneleSi modian da

gvatyobineben, rom guram

janiaSvilma gamoiyvana

Jiuli Sartava da yvela,

vinc ki iyo mTavrobis

saxlSi, iq afxazebis meti

aravinaao.~

jaba ioseliani

(`baTiaSvili,

kviraia TaTbiroben

rusebTan _

riTi gaiyvanon

SevardnaZe?~):

`vbrundebiT StabSi.

Jiuli ar Cans, arc sxva

vinme misi garemocvidan.

janiaSvili gvarwmunebs, rom yvela

gamoiyvana... (SevardnaZem mTavari saqme

hqna _ soxumi Caabara da zemdgomebma

urCies, Sesuliyo esengeSi. am

etapze meti jerxnobiT saWiro ar

iyo. Jiuli Sartava, rogorc xedavT,

Segnebulad miatoves, radgan man uamravi

simarTle icoda afxazeTSi datrialebuli

tragediisa! Jiuli Sartava

im pirovnebas warmoadgenda, romelic

SevardnaZes ar apatiebda saqarTvelos

winaSe Cadenil danaSauls.

mis sityvas wona gaaCnda. amitomac

gaimetes. arada, mTel saqarTvelos

axsovs soxumSi SevardnaZis naTqvami

sityvebi: me soxumTan erTad daviRupebi,

Tu saqme misWirdebao. amis

magier man, sadRac gaparulma da damalulma

ganacxada: saqarTvelom dai-

Coqao! arc meti, arc naklebi: saqar-

Tvelom daiCoqa! es specialurad

SerCeuli sityvebia, rom TiToeul

qarTvels sisxli gaeyinos, SeSindes

da monurad daxaros Tavi. samwuxarod,

mxolod mcirericxovanma adamianebma

aRimaRles xma am saSineli

saerTo gazeTi

mware gakveTilebi

evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

sityvebis mTqmelis sawinaaRmdegod!

roca igi Tbiliss dabrunda, mas saqarTvelos

mxsnelic ki uwodes. vin

uwoda? es, megobrebo, TviTonve gaarkvieT.

aqsiomebis gamo me aRar Seviwuxeb

Tavs! _ j.d.).

SevardnaZe gulrifSia. dacva gamkacrebulia.

Sevdivar. samni arian: SevardnaZe,

baTiaSvili, kviraia. ruseb-

Tan aqvT radiokavSiri. TaTbiroben,

riTi gaiyvanon SevardnaZe _ TviTmfrinaviT,

vertmfreniT Tu gemiT... SevardnaZe,

baTiaSvili, kviraia da dacvis

nawili midian aeroportSi... SevardnaZe

dilis oTx saaTze gafrinda...

(ki ar gafrinda, moRalaturad,

laCrulad gamoiqca frontis xazidan,

Tanac, rusebs abralebda afxaze-

Tis dakargvas da jaba ki ambobs: gadasarCenad

_ rusebTan hqonda radiokavSirio!

sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime

wlis win, aslan abaSiZem televiziidan

ganacxada _ soxumidan Sevardna-

Zis gamoyvanis operacias me vxelmZRvanelobdio.

Zalian sainteresoa yovelive!

_ j.d.).

SevudeqiT dalis xeobas. aqaurobac

misaxedia. Tu merxeuliT gadavidnen,

sul advilad dagvewevian am

demoralizebul brbos. Semdeg webelda

modis. aqamde gza Tavisufali iyo.

mere ki uamravi manqanisa da xalxis

dinebaa. axla vinRa gaigebs, vin

ltolvilia da vin ukuqceuli jariskaci~

(SevardnaZem soxumi Caabara,

magram, gegmiT afxazeTSi qarTuli

mosaxleobis genocidis garda, eTnikuri

wmendac Caatara! samasi aTasi

suli adamiani ahyara mSobliuri miwidan

da... ufro uaresic hqna _ daaxloebiT

280 000 kaci pirdapir

zugdidisken gamoemarTa, daaxloebiT

20-30 aTas kacs ki SevardnaZis SeiaraRebulma

xalxma gza gadauketes,

zugdidisken aRar gauSves, viTomc

zviadistebi gagZarcvaveno da sakenis

uReltexilisken misces gza. es winaswari

gegmiT gansazRvres, ucxoeli

da qarTveli Jurnalistebi, operatorebic

daaswres am saSinel dReebs,

roca WuberSi da sakenSi, TovlSi da

yinvaSi, moxucebi, bavSvebi, fexmZime

qalebi da gzaabneuli adamianebi gamouSves...

mosdevdnen da Tan afiqsirebdnen!

werdnen, reportaJebs acxobdnen

da mTel msoflios atyuebdnen, rom

yovelive Caidina ukanono bandformirebebis

meTaurma, diqtatorma da

provincielma faSistma zviad gamsaxurdiamo.

am dros ki, Cven, sursaTsanovages

vawvdiT ltolvilebs, rogorc

zugdidis midamoebSi, aseve Wuberisken,

sadac xeli migviwvdeboda.

mxedrionelebi ki ltolvilebs Zarcvavdnen

da eubnebodnen _ zviadis

xalxi varTo. aseve iyo saqme samtrediaSi,

roca foTidan sxvadasxva

tvirTs vacilebdiT da samtrediaSi

dabanakebul mxedrion-gvardielebs

vabarebdiT, rom Tbilisisken da

somxeTisken, saWiro misamarTebze gaegzavnaT.

amis magier, isini texdnen

vagonebs, itacebdnen tvirTs da zviadis

momxreebs gvabralebdnen, raTa

somxeTSi, TbilisSi mosaxleobis ukmayofileba

gamoewviaT, rasac nawilobriv

kidec miaRwies. _ j.d.).

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

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18 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

zaur kalandia

mwerali

rac kargebi varT, qarTvelebi

varT... laRad, Tvalminabulebi vmReriT

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fiqrobdnen rafiel da giorgi

erisTavebi, dimitri yifiani da

ilia WavWavaZe, akaki wereTeli da

iakob gogebaSvili, mitrofane laRi-

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da niko cxvedaZe (batoni niko

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xelmZRvaneli mosvenebas ar aZlevda

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gamzadebuli hqonda misTvis saWiro

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es rom damaluliyo.

qarTvelTa didi imedi iyo sarajiSvili.

Tavad Svili ar misca RmerTma.

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imeorebda xSirad da sruliad

saqarTvelos patronad edga. ni-

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sazRvargareT agzavnida, mosavleli

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damsjeli razmi daiZra guriisaken.

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qarTuli sazogadoeba Seikriba,

ilia WavWavaZe boboqrobs, mefisnacvalTan

unda mivideT, jaris gagzav-

na gadavafiqrebinoTo!... Tu ara, Cven

wavalT da (Êîñòüìè ëÿæåì) (es

sityva rusulad Tqvao, igonebs

ilia zurabiSvili) viRacam ar daijera,

araviTari Êîñòüìè ëÿæåì... ma-

Sin sircxvili Cveni! _ iyvira iliamo.

ilia iyo, raRac unda eRona da

gamTeniisas daviT sarajiSvils Sin

miadga. ra moxda? gamoegeba daviTi.

ra xdeba guriaSi, Tu iciT? kio,

miugo. ras fiqrob, rogor eSveleba

am saqmeso? Tqven rom mobrZandiT,

rogor eSveleba, ukve mofiqrebuli

geqnebaTo, _ miugo daviTma.

ramdeni aqvs alixanov-avarskis Seni

valio? _ CaekiTxa ilia. pasuxi

rom miiRo, iqve daukonkreta_ am

Tanxis gauqmeba unda SesTavazo...

daxeuli Tamasuqebi gaugzavne da

vici, vinc aris, ukan gamobrundebao...

gaWra... es is wamia, roca qrTami

jojoxeTsac anaTebs. Tumca verc

imas vityviT, guria uvneblad gadar-

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ar iyo, rac axasiaTebda avarskis,

rasac imperia iTxovda.

amas gagrZelebaa ufro saintereso...

socdemokratebma fulis Segroveba

daiwyes nasakiralSi dazarale-

bulT dasaxmareblad. iliam 25 mane-

Ti moitana. nu iCqarebT, batono

ilia, SeiZleba ufro gaRiziandnen

gurulebio, frTxilad Seapares,

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xom ar geniSnaT rame?

me meniSna da, Tu ra, axlave mogaxsenebT.

nacionalebis SeSfoTeba gasagebia,

magram am fsevdoopozicias ra

Wiri etaka, ver vigeb. xelisuflebas

ivaniSvili afinansebdao, danaSaulad

uTvlian.

arada, axalgazrda xelisufleba

iyo, rixiT, zar-zeimiT mosulT.

xalxmac Tavidan irwmuna maTi, magram...

roca saxelmwifos mSeneblobaze

eWvi Seepara, mixvda, ra xalxis

xelSi Cavarda qveyana, batonma biZinam

warmoudgeneli ram SesTavaza

erT did qarTvels vkiTxe, ra Semosavali gaqvs?

dafiqrda, Tvalebi eSmakurad momiwkura da

ivaniSvilianado? _ aqeT Semomibruna kiTxva

prezidents _ sxva rame ar ikadro,

qarTuli saqme akeTe da as milions

dagisvam pirad angariSzeo...

ara, ar mindodao, gaucia pasuxi.

sainteresoa, ecotava Tu iukadrisa?...

ise, kacma rom Tqvas, roca qveynis

mTeli biujeti saxarjo fuliviT

gidevs jibeSi, asi milioni didi

araferia.

sxva ra vifiqro? vinme alixanov-avarskim

ajoba WkuiT Cvens `ma-

Rals~-meTqi, rogor davijero!

* * *

zemoT daviT sarajiSvilze vyvebodi.

gasuli saukunis oTxmocdaaTian

wlebSi sarajiSvili dabrunda.

amisTvis kidev erTxel moxda misi

Zvlebis Sewuxeba.

rogorc qaSueTis qtitori da

moRvawe amJamad qaSueTis ezoSia dasaflavebuli.

baraTaSvilis, va-

Jas, eqvTime TayaiSvilis, terenti

granelis sulebi mravalgzis

SevawuxeT.

esec qarTuli bunebaa, qar-

Tuli siyvaruli, qarTuli dafaseba...

mTavaria, sabolood mainc

mivxvdiT, vin iyo daviT sarajiSvili.

Zeglic davdgiT. TbilisSi,

darejanis sasaxlesTan, riyeze

idga misi genialuri Zegli (moqandake

Tengiz kikaliSvili. axlaxan

koniakis qarxanaSi gadaitanes.

SesasvlelSi uadgilod

dgas darajiviT); evropisken

momzirali, evropasaviT welgamarTuli,

momxibvleli, qarTuli

qvelmoqmedebis ? dinji, brZeni

qarTveli _ daviT sarajiSvili.

daviTi myavdes kargad da araferi

miWirso, enakvimatobda akaki wereTeli.

erTxel viRacam hkiTxa mgosans,

ra Semosavali gaqvso? dafiqrda

poeti da sarajiSvilianado, iqiT

Seubruna kiTxva.

did qarTvel batonebs: daviT

sarajiSvils, daviT xoStarias, Zmeb

zubalaSvilebs, sxvebs, erTad aRebuli,

ar gaukeTebiaT qveynisTvis imdeni,

rac batonma biZina ivaniSvilma

ukve gaakeTa.

es, rac saxezea, rac faqtia da

yvelam viciT.

ris gakeTebasac, awi apirebs,

cota vacaloT, moviTminoT...

oTxi-xuTi wlis winaT davwere

da axla kvlav gavimeoreb. muxranis

leqsis perifrazisa ar iyos, kidev

erTi ivaniSvili gviwyalobos Rmer-

Tma-meTqi! mindoda damewera, saqarTvelos

yvela kuTxes... magram Tavi

Sevikave. ver vityvi, nametani meCvena

Tu fantazia ar meyo.

manamde erT did qarTvels moridebiT

vkiTxe, ra Semosavali gaqvsmeTqi.

dafiqrda, Tvalebi eSmakurad

momiwkura da ivaniSvilianado? _

aqeT Semomibruna kiTxva...


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

interviu cnobil sportsmenTan,

msoflios orgzis CempionTan

guram saRaraZes-

Tan.

_ batono guram, rogor SeafasebT

ganvlil saparlamento

arCevnebs? Tqven imedi

gqondaT, rom `nacionaluri

moZraoba~ veRar SeZlebda mas-

Stabur gayalbebas.

_ diax, mqonda imedi da

survili mqonda, erTxel da

samudamod, qveyanaSi damkvidrdes

demokratiuli, samarTliani

arCevnebis Catarebis kultura.

es survili Tu ocneba

ara marto me, aramed Cems

gverdiT myof uamrav adamians,

saqarTvelos mTel mosaxleobas

hqonda. sabednierod, imedi

ar gamicruvda, arCevnebi metnaklebad

obieqturad Catarda

da miviReT sasurveli Sedegi.

saqarTvelos sagareo vali

bolo 5 weliwadSi 300 procentiT

gaizarda da Tu 2006 w-s 3

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Seadgenda amJamad man 11 mlrd

200 mln-mde aiwia, anu zrda

294 procentia.

gaizarda erovnuli bankis

sagareo valic (276 procentiT).

amas mohyva komerciuli bankebis

sagareo valebis zrdac _ 386

procenti.

winasaarCevno periodSi `nacionalurma~

xelisuflebam sagareo

valebi 122 mln dolariT

gazarda. erovnulma bankma ki 2

mln 200 aTasis krediti aiRo.

eqspert demur giorxeliZis ganmartebiT,

qveyanaSi kontroli

ar arsebobs, xelisuflebac valebs

uproblemod iRebs. mis moculobas

etapobrivad zrdis.

mosaxleobis keTildReobaze ki

es ar aisaxeba. specialistebi

SiSoben, rom saqarTvelo SeiZleba

gaxdes gadaxdisuunaro

qveyana.

saakaSvilis gundi gvitovebs

aramarto savaluto fondis,

aramed sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso

organizaciebisa da saxelmwifoebis

valebsac. eqspertebi yovelives

imasac amateben, rom qveynis

mosaxleobas yoelwliurad

11 miliardis 2 procentis gadaxda

mouwevs. erovnuli bankis

erTaderTi kreditori ki saer-

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sagareo valebi kritikul

zRvars miuaxlovda. miuxedavad

amisa, qveynis ekonomika umZimes

mdgomareobaSia, xalxi dausaqmebelia,

_ ambobs giorxeliZe da

iqve ganmartavs, rom sagareo valebs

iReben mxolod gadaudebe-

batonma biZinam udides

sapasuxismgeblo misias

brwyinvaled gaarTva

Tavi. samSoblos siyvaruliT

anTebulma kacma,

msoflios dasanaxad

mSvidobianad migviyvana

arCevnebamde.

mTelma msofliom

dainaxa, rom `mefe

SiSvelia!~ gaSiSvlda

Cveni prezidenti. mTelma

samyarom dainaxa

misi umsgavso saqcieli.

aqve minda giTxraT,

rom Cveni qveyana mistikuria.

RvTismSoblis wilxvedri tyuilad

rodi daurqmeviaT. saqarTvelos

gansakuTrebuli misia

aqvs dedamiwaze, romelic

bolomde unda Seasrulos, ai,

axlac, bolo wlebSi mcire

armagedoni gadavitaneT mTelma

erma, magram sikeTem sZlia borots.

_ axal sakanonmdeblo organoSi

sportsmenebic arian

warmodgenili.

_ es garemoeba CemTvis sasixaruloa,

SoTa xabareli,

leri xabelovi, zurab zviadauri,

kaxi kalaZe, soso jaWvliani,

giorgi CxaiZe da kidev

bevri, romlebic sportTan

arian dakavSirebuli. mapation

Tu vinme gamomrCa.

_ radgan sporti vaxseneT

da olimpiur Ckempionebze, minda

gkiTxoT. 3 oqtombers da-

niSnuliiyo saqarTvelos olimpiuri

komitetis yriloba.

ratom dainiSna saparlamento

arCevnebidan ase male?

_ verafers getyviT, radgan

yrilobis Sesaxeb mec SemTxveviT

gavige. yrilobis dRes mirekavdnen

msoflios da olimpiuri

Cempionebi da mekiTxebodnen.

ra meTqva, mowveuli ar

viyavi da araferi vicodi.

_ aba, vin iyo yrilobis delegati

an miwveuli stumari?

_ TavianTi xalxi, romlebic

erTxmad dauWerdnen mxars

nacionalebis kandidats, gana

sircxvili ar aris, rogorc

moeqcnen kaxi kalaZes? mTelma

sportulma samyarom madloba

unda vuTxraT misi RvawlisTvis,

magram sportis saministros

an sxva naZirlebma, rodesac

arCevnebis win Cavidnen

samtrediaSi zonderbrigadebiT,

an ra xdeboda zugdidSi.

vin aris, saerTod, roland

axalaia gamagebineT. mis adgilze

namusiani adamiani saer-

Tod moxsnida kandidaturas

da xalxSi arc gamoCndeboda.

es xalxi `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~

pirdapiri memkvidreebi

arian, rac maT ver daangries,

eseni agrZelebdnen. saerTod,

xilul, ucxoel mterTan

brZola jobs, vidre Sinaur

uxilavTan.

_ batono guram, dRes ratomRac

aseTi tendencia damkvidrda

_ Tu sakuTars, Tun-

dac enas, sarwmunoebas icav,

qsenofobad gTvlian. ratom?

_ esec xelovnurad aris

Seqmnili. vaJa-fSavelas cxovrebis

erT epizods gavixseneb,

patara biWs xanjali rom

aCuqa warweriT: `samSoblos

vinc mizianebs, mec imas davazianeb~.

rogor ar davupirispirdeT

iseT xalxs, vinc cdilobs

qveyanaSi destabilizacias?

venacvale Cvens axalgazrdobas!

Cemi Svilebis, SviliSvilebis

Taoba gamofxizlda,

gamococxlda. naxeT, rogori

jansaRi, ganaTlebuli Taoba

wamovida. amaT unda icxovron

da Caibaron bednieri, ayvavebuli

saqarTvelo. kidev erTi,

rac minda vTqva, kanonis wina-

Se yela Tanaswori unda iyos.

ras miqvia imuniteti icavso.

gamodis, Tanamdeboba imisTvis

undoda, equrda, emamaZaRla da

dausjeli darCeniliyo, xalxisTvis,

samSoblosTvis ki ar

saerTo gazeTi

bolo wlebSi qveyanam mcire armagedoni

gadaitana, Tumca sikeTem sZlia borots...

saakaSvili 11 mlrd

vals gvitovebs

xalxi

li aucileblobis SemTxvevaSi.

CvenTan ki aravin icis, sad midis

fuli. es sakiTxi iseve, rogorc

sxva bevri tabudadebulia.

ekonomist daviT laSxias

ganmartebiT sagareo valebi imis

magivrad rom axal proeqtebs,

xalxis dasaqmebas, mis keTildReobis

gaumjobesebas xmardebodes,

erTi muWa `nacionalebis~

jibeebSi ileqeba da maTi lideris

yovlad gauazrebel xuSturebs

xmardeba.

eqspert irakli leqvinaZis

ganmartebiT, saqarTveloSi valis

marTvis procesi dasaxvewia.

rodesac erTi mimarTulebiT sa-

xelmwifo valis zrdis

tendencia kidev ufro

mzardi da Seuqcevadi ar

unda gaxdes. yovel Sem-

TxvevaSi, saxelmwifo biujetsa

da ekonomikis

zrdis tempi valis zrdis

temps unda aRematebodes.

CvenTan ki yvelaferi piriqiT

xdeba. sagareo vali

ar unda xmardebodes

pensiebisa da sxva socialur

daxmarebebs, aramed

unda idebodes sxvadasxva

proeqtebis dafinansebaSi.

avi gmiri

saqarTvelo lideria

kavkasiis qveynebs Soris sagareo

valis odenobiT. Cven

odnav CamogvrCeba azerbaijani.

nebismieri adamiani, romelic

bankSi midis kreditis asaRebad

man unda miawodos kreditoficers

idealuri informacia sakuTari

finansuri informaciebis

Sesaxeb. rac bevria Semosavali

miT ufro didia krediti. asea

qveynebTan mimarTebaSic, _ acxadebs

eqsperti soso arCvaZe. specialistebs,

sagareo valebiT

daRupuli ekonomikis mqone saqarTvelosTan

azerbaijanis mizeruli

CamorCena, am qveynisTvis

sagangaSod ar miaCniaT, radgan

mezoblis ekonomika 4,3-jer aRemateba

Cvensas.

sagareo valebi aqvs somxeTsac

(4 mlrd odnav meti), magram

am qveyanas sazRvargareT didi

da SeZlebuli diaspora

hyavs, ris gamoc iq ganxorcielebuli

tranzaqciuri fuladi

gzavnilebi investiciebis saxesac

iRebs, magram am fulebs Cveni

mezoblebi, saakaSvilis msgavsad

taS-fandurSi ki ar xarja-

emsaxura. amitom vTvli, rom

Cadenili danaSaulisTvis, pirvel

rigSi da mkacrad Cinovnikebi

unda isjebodnen.

_ batono guram, saubris

dasasruls minda giTxraT, Tu

dainaxeT batoni biZina, an koaliciis

maRalCinosani Secdomas

uSvebs, xmamaRla Tu etyviT

da miuTiTebT?

_ aucileblad, arc vapatieb,

geficebiT, gulwrfelad

geubnebiT. ratom unda vapatio

da Tvali davxuWo, me xom

qveynisTvis da maTTvis mxolod

kargi minda, jer kidev

arian adamianebi, romlebic

erTs fiqroben, meores amboben

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.com

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

da mesames akeTeben. farisevlebiT

gaivso qveyana da amitom

varT aseT mdgomareobaSi. imedia,

aseTi xalxisganac gaiwmindeba

qveyana. xalxs simarTle,

sikeTe da patiosneba moenatra.

gia burduli

ven. ikmayofileben pirvelad

moTxovnebs, deben ganaTlebaSi,

jandacvaSi, iZenen uZrav qonebas

da a.S.

saerTod saxelmwifo vali

ar unda aRematebodes mSp-s 60

procents da eqsportis 110 procents.

es aris empiriuli zRvari.

misi gadaWarbebis SemTxveva-

Si, qveyana sakuTari likvidurobis

seriozuli problemis wina-

Se dgeba.

gamodis, rom saakaSvili sakuTari

qveynis winaSe avi gmiris

rols asrulebs _ cocxalma

xom SegvWama da mkvdarma sul

mTlad amogvagdoo.

zaza bilixoZe

SoTa xabareli nacionalebis

warmomadgenlis cemaSi `qarTuli ocnebis~

aqtivistTa monawileobas uaryofs

kolicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ krwanisis

maJoritarobis kandidatis SoTa xabarelis

gancxadebiT, nacionaluri moZraobis

krwanisis raionis axalgazrduli organizaciis

Tavmjdomaris cotne gvasalias

cemaSi ,,qarTuli ocnebis“ aqtivistebi

ar monawileobdnen. rogorc xabarelma

dRes gamarTul peskonferenciaze ganacxada,

gvasalias cemis faqti aRmaSfoTebelia.

,,Cven nacionaluri moZraobisgan gansxvavebiT,

vgmobT aseT faqtebs. aseTi Sem-

Txvevebi aRar unda ganmeordes. Cven xelisuflebaSi movediT imitom,

rom Zaladoba gamoricxuli iyos“, _ ganacxada xabarelma da

dasZina, rom koaliciis survilia Serigebis procesi daiwyos da

yvelam erTad Tavisufal, samarTlian qveyanaSi icxovros. SegaxsenebT,

rom wuxel nacionaluri moZraobis krwanisis raionis axalgazrduli

organizaciis Tavmjdomares cotne gvasalias xuTma pirma

scema.

cotne gvasalias informaciiT, Tavdamsxmelebi ,,qarTuli ocnebis“

aqtivistebi iyvnen. eqimebis TqmiT, gvasalias aReniSneboda qala-tvinis

daxuruli travma, aseve naxeTqi Wriloba Tavis areSi.

`medianiusi~

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20 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

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mmooggzzaauurroobbiissaass SSeevvCCeerrddiiTT,, ffaarraavvnniisswwyyaallss

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mmooaaxxaallSSeennee ssoommxxeebbii

ccxxoovvrroobbeenn..

* * *

bavridan kartikamamde sul

raRac 2 km.-ia da gzac, ase Tu

ise, normaluria, buzaveTamde

darCenili 9-kilometriani monakveTi

ki Zalian xSirad fuWdeba,

radgan sofeli zRvis donidan,

TiTqmis, 2000 metris simaRlezea.

buzaveTi 50-komliani maRalmTiani

dasaxlebaa, sadac zam-

Tari 6 Tve grZeldeba. sanacvlod

darCenil 6 TveSi samoTxisdari

haeria. xes versad naxavT,

magram midamo nairferi,

did-didi yvavilebiT moCiTul,

mobibine xaliCas warmoadgens.

amitom, gasakviri araa, rom, mecxoveleobasTan

erTad, igi mom-

Tabare mefutkreobis ganviTarebis

Cinebul SesaZleblobas iZleva.

sxvaTa Soris, erT-erTi

versiiT, toponimi buzaveTi

swored futkris simravlidan

momdinareobs (zogadad, futkaric

xom buzia). sagulisxmoa

meore versiac: soflis saxelwodeba

ukavSirdeba bzes. javaxeTi

aki, odiTgan iyo cnobili

mesaqonleobiTa da pureuliT,

rasac es xalxuri leqsic adasturebs:

`me javaxeTs ra miSavda,

mTvare medga mzesaviTa, kalmaxi

da qeris puri win meyara

bzesaviTa~. toponmis axsnis meore

versiis Tanaxmad, sofels

pureulis iseTi mosavali hqonia,

rom sad waeRoT, ar icodnen.

samwuxarod, XVI saukuneSi,

osmalos gamoCenis gamo, sofeli

ise dapataravebula, rom mxolod

2 qristiani qarTuli ojaxi

SemorCenia. XIX saukunis 30

wlebidan soflis memkvidreoba

arzrumeli somxebis xelSi gadavida.

qarTvelobis macned aq

mxolod Zveli, X s-is eklesiaa

darCenili, romelic, javaxuri

tradiciis mixedviT, mSrali

wyobiT nageb galavanSi zis.

galavnis karibWis wirTxlebad

gamoyenebulia adreSuasaukuneebis

stelebis fragmentebi.

maTgan gansakuTrebiT sainteresoa

qvajvris ori bazisi, romlebzec

e.w. bolnuri jvrebi da

stilizebuli Tevzebia gamosa-

TiTqos, iyo

da ara iyo ra...

centraluri javaxeTi

xuli. erT-erT bazisze qarTuli

asomTavruliT amokveTili warweris

fragmentia: `qriste, ganusvene...~

... karibWis gavlisas simaRle

matyuebs, Subls vartyam da

TvalT mibneldeba, magram rogorc

ki ezoSi Sevdivar, tkivili

maSinve maviwydeba _ Zalian

Zvel droSi movxvdi. darbazul

eklesias da mis Tanadroul samxreTis

minaSens (ekvders) samwaxnagovani

Sverili absidebi aqvs.

amitom, roca aRmosavleTidan umzer,

tyupi eklesiis STabeWdileba

iqmneba. qvis perangi faqizadaa

gaTlili, magram aqa-iq kvadrebi

amocvenilia. taZris kamarebic da

lavgardanic sruliad morRveulia,

Tumca am ukanasknelis erTi

fragmenti mainc darCenila kedlis

Tavze. lavgardans gadabmuli

cilindrebis forma aqvs. taZris

ZiriTadi darbazisa da ekvderis

sakurTxevlis absidebis Sida

moyvaniloba nalisebria. aRmosavleTis

sarkmlebi XIX saukuneSia

dapataravebuli, radgan monofizit

somxebs ganaTebuli sakur-

Txeveli ar uyvarT. Zalian araqaulia

arqitravebze amokveTili

yurZnis mtevnebiT Semofargluli

jvrebi, interieris CrdiloeT

kedelze gamosaxuli Tevziskuda

ovalebi da masSi Casmuli

jvrebi. am reliefebis daniSnuleba

samoTxis sakraluri aRqmaa.

gancdas aZlierebs taZris ezoSi

Semonaxuli stelebi. romeliRac

qvajvridan mxolod bunis qva (igive

postamenti) gadarCenila.

mis erT waxnagze, bolonuri

jvris gverdiT, ori saero pirovnebaa

(romeliRac feodalebi)

gamosaxuli.

soflidan Crdilo-dasavleTiT,

daaxloebiT 1

kilometrSi, didi lodebiT

mofenil morenul

borcvze, dabali galavniT

SemosazRvrulia alagi,

romelic, vfiqrob, amaRlebis

salocavi unda yofiliyo.

aseTi varaudis

safuZvels iZleva misi

msgavseba sirgvis `amaRlebasTan~.

gansxvaveba is

aris, rom buzaveTis stelisgan

mxolod bazisia

darCenili. gamWvartluli

lodis wina mxares

didi bolonuri jvaria

gamosaxuli. stelis baziss sakurTxevlis

qvis mniSvneloba

aqvs miniWebuli.

buzaveTidan kartikamSi

vbrundebiT da axla mcire mdinaris

meore SesarTavis saTavisken

miveSurebiT, sadac abulia.

rogorc fiqroben, saxelwodeba

`abuli~, iseve rogorc `ablari~,

sparsuli `ab~-idan momdinareobs,

rac wyals niSnavs. abuli

hqvia samsaris qedis samxreT kideSi

arsebul im or mwvervalsac,

romelic sofels dascqeris.

maT Soris ramdenime mcire

tbaa. Cven zRvis donidan daaxloebiT

2300 metris simaRleze,

somexi mwyemsebis binaze vaCerebT

manqanas, Zalas vikrebT da

darCenil manZils qveiTad gavdivarT

morenebiT dafarul mTis

kalTebze _ gezi abulis cnobili

cixe-soflisken gvaqvs. igi

mcire abulis samxreT kalTebze

da uSualod mwvervalze, zRvis

donidan 2800 metris simaRlezea

gaSenebuli. es aris Zalian

Zveli, warmarTuli epoqis da-

buzaveTi: eklesiis samxr,-aRm. fasadi, arqitravis

reliefi, qvajvari da saflavis qva

saxlebis kvali. SemorCenilia

dedacixis 3-4 metris simaRlis

veeba lodebis mSrali wyobiT

nagebi Zalian sqeli kedlebi. aq

aseve naxavT sxvadasxva daniSnulebis

oTaxebs, banuri stilis

sacxovrebelTa naSTebs, primitiul

karibWeebs (SesaZromebs),

xaroebs, menhirebs, qvafenilian

nagzaurebs da sxva. SesaZloa,

rom Saoris cixesTan erTad,

abuli bibliuri javaxosis, anu

erT-erTi qarTuli tomis pirveli

samosaxloc ki iyo.

mainc ra aris kacis goneba.

maRlidan davcqer mTel javaxeTs

da iciT, ra maxsendeba?

oTxi aTasi wlis winandeli suraTi:

baniani saxlis win Cemi

jilagis fuZemdebeli Camomjdara

da brinjaos satevars lesavs,

deda karaqs dRvebavs, vi-

Rac cxvars mwyemsavs, viRac

Zafs urTavs, Cemi Zmebi amirani,

badri da usufi xarebs abamen

uRelSi. ra eniTac isini saubroben,

mTeli miwaTmoqmedi winaazis

enaa.

abulis cixis naSTebi, soflis centrSi mdgari jvarTamaRlebis marTlmadidebluri eklesia da guzan galatozis warwera

... iyo da ara iyo ra.

gadioda dro, Cveni

winapari nel-nela qveviT

iwevda sacxovreblad

da bolos zRvis

donidan 1960 metris

simaRleze, erT gaSlil

adgilze dasaxlda.

soflis centrSi

didi wyaro da ori eklesia

_ XIX saukunis

didi somxuri saydari

da mis gverdiT Semor-

Cenili X-XI saukuneebis

qarTuli darbazuli

taZaria. XIII saukuneSi

am taZrisTvis samxreTidan

karibWe miuSenebiaT.

karibWe sanaxevrod

dangreula, taZris

faqizi, usamkaulo perangi

ki imdenad kargadaa

Semonaxuli, ifiqreb,

guSindeli agebuliao.

rogorc taZris

dasavleT frontonSi

arsebuli warweridan

irkveva, eklesia jvar-

TamaRlebis saxelobis

yofila, xolo misi xuroTmoZRvari

_ guzani.

qarTuli asomTavruli

warwera ase ikiTxeba:

`juari qristesi. qriste,

Seiwyale guzan galatozi~.

wyarosTan xalxi

ireva, mas erTi moxuci kaci gamoeyo,

gviaxlovdeba da damtvreuli

qarTuliT meubneba:

_ sofelma giJebis Wkvaze ar

unda dadiodes. haosi da qarTlosi

Zmebi xom iqnebian, _ berikaci

or saCvenebel TiTs erTmaneTs

utolebs. _ erTi erTmane-

Ti unda giyvardes. kacoba eg

aris, maS!... axalgazrdobaSi ro

TbilisSi viyo, bevrjer yveli,

karaqi, matyli gavyide, kargi

xalxia qarTveli, _ berikaci kidev

ufro miaxlovdeba da yur-

Si CamCurCulebs _ ai, zeviT,

iqac da aqac ro xelisufleba,

isini urevs, magram Cven xo kacebi

unda iyos. wavideT axla

Cemi saxlSi. koniaki, yava dalios.

kacoba eg aris, maS?...

keTil berikacs xaTrs ar

vutexT da misi ojaxis kars va-

RebT. vucqer mas da erTi egvipturi

sibrZne maxsendeba: `swavla

miiRe misganac, visac bevri

araferi uswavlia~.

gela qoqiaSvili


#43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba „winaaRmdegobis

moZraobis“ erT-erTi lideri

soso manjaviZe

-batono soso, aris Tu ara

„nacionaluri moZraobis“ ar-

CevnebSi aRebuli 40% gayalbebis

Sedegi?

_ ra Tqma unda, arCevnebi

gayalbda, magram ar moxda im

milion orasi aTasi xmis gamoyeneba,

romelic kacitaZis saarCevno

siebSi iyo Setanili

da sinamdvileSi arsad ar arsebobdnen.

is generaluri xazi,

romelic mihyavda xelisuflebas

18 seqtembramde, cixis kadrebis

gamoqveynebis Semdeg uecrad

Seicvala, aman gamoiwvia

dezorganizacia da Sesabamisad,

miviReT is Sedegi, romelic

sabolood vixileT. es Zalian

sasargeblo etapia, radgan gaCnda

SesaZlebloba, rom saqarTvelo

ganTavisufldes am kanibalisturi

reJimisagan.

_ „nacionalebis“ mxridan

politikuri krizisis Seqmnas

ar unda velodoT?

_ gamoiTqmeba mosazrebebi,

rom „nacionaluri moZraoba“

gadajgufdeba da rodesac koalicia

Seva krizisSi misi siWrelis

gamo, „nacionalebi“

kvlav SeZleben politikuri

revanSis aRebas, miT umetes,

rom maT gaaCniaT amis berketebi.

es adamianebi, vinc aseT mosazrebebs

avrceleben, ver

xvdebian arsebul realobas.

qarTveli xalxis ZiriTadi

grZnoba da moTxovna ra aris

dRes?-daisajon damnaSaveebi,

xom? rogorc ar unda undodes

vinmes, cxadia, rom veRar gaa-

Cerebs am niaRvars braldebebi-

irakli RaribaSvili: kud-i da

sod-i, savaraudod, gauqmdeba

Ss ministrobis kandidatis

irakli RaribaSvilis

gancxadebiT, konstituciuri

usafrTxoebis

departamenti (kud) da

specialuri operatiuli

departamenti (sod), savaraudod,

gauqmdeba.

rogorc “qarTuli

ocnebis” ofisSi JurnalistebTan

saubrisas RaribaSvilma

aRniSna, es sakiTxi jer ganxilvis

procesSia da sabolood ar Camoyalibebulan.

„jerjerobiT konsultaciebi mimdinareobs.

saboloo gadawyvetileba cota xanSi

gaxdeba cnobili. zogadad, Sinagan saqmeTa

saministros struqturebSi reorganizaciis

procesi dagegmilia“, – ganacxada man.

sas, veRar gaaCerebs samarTlianobis

wyurvils. qarTveli

xalxi imitom gamovida quCaSi

da imitom misca „ocnebas“ xma,

rom samarTlianoba aRsruldes.

Sesabamisad fuWi iqneba yvela

mcdeloba am zvavis SeCerebis

da es zvavi mTlianad walekavs

„nacionaluri

moZraobis“ ideologias.

es Zala aucileblad unda

gamocxaddes da gamocxaddeba

kidec danaSaulebriv

organizaciad.

amitom saubari imaze ki

ar unda iyos, rom „ocneba“

daiSleba, politikuri

krizisi daiwyeba da

a.S. me darwmunebuli var,

rom es krizisi Seiqmneba,

magram „nacionaluri moZraoba“

ar iqneba am krizisis

gamomyenebeli subieqti.

„nacionaluri moZraoba“

unda ganadgurdes

moralurad da ideologiurad.

mixeil saakaSvilis

winaaRmdeg sisxlis

samarTlis saqmea aRZruli da

rogor ggoniaT, rodesac is pasuxs

agebs Tavis TanamzraxvelebTan

erTad, „nacionaluri

moZraoba“ isev monoliTi dar-

Ceba? - darCeba mxolod nafle-

Tebi, imitom, rom amaT akavebT

an mxolod erToblivi danaSaulis

gancda, an Zalauflebis

qona. rogorc ki danaSaulis

mxileba miaRwevs garkveul

kritikul zRvars, „nacionaluri

moZraobac“ gazafxulis

TovliviT gadneba da vin sad

gaipareba, aravin icis. sxva sakiTxia

Tavad „qarTul ocnebas“

ra politikuri momavali

elodeba. es damokidebuli iqneba,

erTis mxriv, maTi nabijebis

efeqturobaze, xolo meores

mxriv, viciT, rom koaliciaSi

arsebuli Zalebidan, bevri

maTgani ideologiurad ar

gansxvavdeba „nacionaluri moZraobisagan“.

ra Tqma unda, es

ideologiuri adeptebi „Tavisuflebis

institutisa“ da

neo-liberalizmisa ar moisveneben,

imitom, rom maT amas avaleben.

wlebis ganmavlobaSi

amisTvis Rebulobdnen anazRau-

rebas da Seecdebian kvlav movidnen

umravlesobaSi.

_ anu „Tavisuflebis institutis“

ideologiis mimdevrebi

da gamtareblebi warmoadgenen

qveynisTvis kidev erT safr-

Txes?

_ am ideologiis politikuri

gamoyeneba xdeba kvlav

igive meTodebiT da raSi gamoixateba

es. amaT axla Seqmnes

axali citadeli da, Cemda samwuxarod,

es citadeli „maestro“

gaxda. am ideologiis mTavari

amocanaa, esa Tu is eri,

romelic tradiciul Rirebulebebs

eyrdnoba, warmoaCinos

aTasi fobiebiT daavadebulad

da umciresobebis mCagvrelad.

amisTvis irCeven gaunaTlebel

nacionalistebs. am gaunaTlebel

nacionalistebs aqvT Cavardnebi

faSizmisaken TavianTi

gaunaTleblobis gamo. isini

normaluri adamianebi arian,

ubralod, neo-liberalebi umwvaveben

Temebs, abraleben ra-

Racebs da vinaidan maT ar

hyofniT ganaTleba, rom Sesabamisad,

upasuxon da sakuTar

mindorze gadaiyvanon ideologiuri

brZola, gadadian iseTi

tipis ritorikaze, rac saSualebas

aZlevs meore mxares isini

daadanaSaulos faSizmSi.

risi naTeli magaliTic iyo

ybadaRebuli cixis jalaTebis

sia, romelic „asaval-dasaval-

Si“ gamoqveynda. am sakiTxSi

yvelaze saintereso is aris,

rom „Tavisuflebis institutis“

adeptebi gamodian Tavgadaklul

advokatebad yvelaze

ufro odiozuri figurebisa.

magaliTad, baCo axalaias Tavgadakluli

advokati gaxlavT

„Tavisuflebis institutis“

iseTi cnobili varskvlavi, rogoricaa

Tea TuTberiZe. anu es

liberal-faSistebi sinamdvileSi

zustad isini arian, vinc

inspiracias ukeTebs wamebas,

vinc amis ideologiuri uzrunvelmyofia.

es neo-liberaluri

ideologia aseTi moqmedebebiT

faqtobrivad aupatiurebs

erovnul cnobierebas,

iseve rogorc cixeebSi aupatiurebdnen

patimrebs. aseT moqme-

debebs ki unda daupirispirdes

ganaTlebuli nacionalizmi, ganaTlebuli

winaaRmdegoba unda

SexvdeT da ara iseTi, rogoric

dRes xvdebaT.

informaciul omSi am liberal-faSistebs

gacilebiT kargad

gamarTuli terminologiuri

baza gaaCniaT, aqvT sainformacio

saSualebebi, arian kargad

datreningebulebi. aqamde

ramxela zianic mogvayenes, vnaxeT

da igives agrZeleben dResac.

igive is cnobili gadacema

JiJilaSvilis mier ise iyo

mowyobili, rom „asaval-dasavalis“

warmomadgeneli sabraldebo

skamze aRmoCnda da amiT

gansasjelis skamze dasves

erovnuli cnobierebac. amave

dros aucileblad unda gavacnobieroT,

ra aris erovnuli

cnobiereba, anu is, rasac me ga-

naTlebul nacionalizms veZaxi.

erovnuli cnobiereba aris RirebulebaTa

iseTi sistema, romelic

dakavSirebulia religiurobasTan

da romelic aZlevs

adamians sulierad Camoyalibebis

saSualebas. es aris erovnuli

cnobierebis mTavari Rirebuleba,

mTeli es ojaxis

sistema, aRzrdis sistema amas

emsaxureba, Zalian didi sibrZnea

masSi Cadebuli da iTvaliswinebs

adamianis sulier

konstitucias. es rac Seexeba

erovnul cnobierebas, axla

vnaxoT vin arian e.w neo-liberalebi.

maTi ideologia absoluturad

materialisturia da

momdinareobs evropuli civilizaciis

regresidan. mas axasiaTebs

Semdegi niSnebi: yvelafris

desakralizacia, adamianis

ganxilva mxolod mis socialur

funqciad, aseve yvelafris

komercializacia. is

moergo transnacionaluri kompaniebis

interesebs da maTi

msaxuria. es aris is ideologia,

romelic devs dRes msoflio

bankis da savaluto fondis

samoqmedo safuZvelSi. ma-

Ti adeptebi kargad arian momzadebuli,

kargad finansirdebian

da maTi amocanaa, rom

erovnuli cnobierebis margina-

saerTo gazeTi

`nacionaluri moZraoba~ moralurad

da ideologiurad unda ganadgurdes!

iranma saparlamento arCevnebTan

dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos

mTavrobas da ivaniSvils miuloca

iranis islamuri respublikis

sagareo saqmeTa saministros

presmdivanma, ramin mehmanfarasTma

saqarTvelos mosaxleobas

da mTavrobas Tavisufali

saparlamento arCevnebis

Catareba miuloca.

rogorc saqarTveloSi

iranis saelCos mier gavrcelebul

informaciaSia aRniSnuli,

iranis sagareo saqmeTa saministros presmdivanma,

aseve koalicia “qarTul ocnebas” bi-

Zina ivaniSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT, saparlamento

arCevnebSi gamarjveba miuloca da aRniSna: “uZvelesi

istoriuli da kulturuli kavSirebidan

da ori qveynis xalxTa interesebidan gamomdinare,

gvjera, rom kvlav gagrZeldeba ormxrivi megobruli

urTierTobis ganviTarebis procesi”.

`medianiusi~

lizacia gaakeTon. amisaTvis

maTgan dafinansebul televiziebs

specialurad mihyavT gadacemebSi

gaunaTlebeli adamianebi,

raTa kargad momzadebulma

„TuTberiZeebma“ da „bokeriebma“

gamarjveba izeimon am xalxze

da sazogadoebas aCvenon,

rom isini arian dasavluri Rirebulebebis

warmomadgenlebi.

anu ideologiurad miSa da „nacionaluri

moZraoba“ arsad ar

wasulan, ubralod, cdiloben

transformacia ganicadon da

niRbebi Seicvalon.

_ qarTvelebi gulmaviwyebi

rom varT, aqamdec dagvimtkicebia

da swored amas xom ar

elodeba „nacionaluri moZraoba“

xelisuflebaSi mosabruneblad,

miT umetes, Tu gaviTvaliswinebT

imas, razec zemoT

visaubreT, anu politikuri

krizisis Seqmnis SemTxvevaSi

ver moxdeba realuri cvlilebebi

da ukmayofilo xalxi ukve

„ocnebas“ gauCndeba?

_ „nacionaluri moZraoba“

xelisuflebaSi ver motrialdeba,

imitom, rom ara gulmaviwyi,

ganaTlebuli xalxi gaerTiandeba

da Seiqmneba normaluri

politikuri Zala. romelic

monawileobas miiRebs ar-

CevnebSi. es iqneba ganaTlebuli

da erovnuli xalxi, vinc ganaTlebul,

nacionalur saxelmwifos

aaSenebs. „nacionaluri

moZraoba“ ver gauZlebs informaciul

Setevas da ramdenime

gabrZolebis Semdeg aucileblad

daiSleba. Tumca es ukanaskneli

gabrZoleba ramdenad

zianis momtani iqneba, amaze namdvilad

ver gavakeTeb Cems

prognozs. axali arCevnebi

aucileblad unda Catardes

qveyanaSi maSin, rodesac moxdeba

mosaxleobis sruli aRwera,

rodesac zustad gvecodineba,

ramdeni gvyavs realuri amomr-

Ceveli qveyanaSi, Seiqmneba normaluri

saarCevno kodeqsi da

qarTvel xalxs eqneba saSualeba

airCios, rogori tipis saxelmwifo

unda.

lela arabuli

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22 saerTo gazeTi #43 (227), 10-16.X, 2012 w.

qalis garegnul mimzidvelobasa

da mis pirad cxovrebas Soris

uSualo kavSiri arsebobs. tyuilad

rodi amboben, Seyvarebul

qals saxe, gamometyveleba da siarulis

manerac ki ecvleba, misi

Tvalebi ki _ Sinagan kmayofilebas

asxivebso.

samwuxarod, ukanasknel xans,

uamravi mimzidveli qalbatoni awydeba

sqesobriv cxovrebaSi seqsualuri

ltolvis Semcirebasa da agznebis

procesTan dakavSirebul

siZneleebs _ samsaxuri, ojaxi,

qmari da Svilebi, maTi movla did

energiasa da Zalas iTxovs, suli-

eri da fizikuri gadaRla ki,

upirveles yovlisa, sqesobriv sferoze

aisaxeba.

intimur cxovrebaSi normisa

da paTologiis erTmaneTisagan gamijvna

rTulia, radgan yvelaferi

mkacrad individualuri da pirobi-

Tia. erTaderTi, razec aravin davobs,

is gaxlavT, rom srulyofili

seqsualuri cxovreba warmoudgenelia

partniorebs Soris seqsualuri

ltolvisa (libido) da

sqesobrivi grZnobis sruli dakmayofilebis

gareSe.

ratom qreba seqsualuri ur-

TierTobis survili? ra klavs qalebSi

libidos? vin aris amaSi

damnaSave da ramdenad SesaZlebelia

uwindeli ltolvis dabruneba?

saerTod, arseboben Tu ara

WeSmaritad `civi~ qalebi? modiT,

SevecadoT da am kiTxvebze pasuxebi

vipovoT.

rodis yalibdeba

libido?

sqesobrivi ltolva centraluri

nervuli sistemis Sesabamisi

centrebisa da endokrinuli procesebis

erTobliobiT yalibdeba da

misi formireba sam etapad mimdinareobs.

pirveli etapi _ 8-10 wlis

asaks emTxveva, roca bavSvebSi sawinaaRmdego

sqesisadmi gaucnobierebeli

interesi Cndeba _ es platonuri

ltolvaa da gansakuTrebiT

Zlierad gogonebSia ganviTarebuli.

meore etapi _ mozardobis periodi

_ erotikuli sqesobrivi

ltolvis saxiT iCens Tavs, roca

ara marto sulieri, xorcieli

kontaqtis, sinazisa da alersis

ganawilebis survili ibadeba.

mesame etapi _ sqesobrivi momwifebis

dasasruls emTxveva; libido

ukve sakuTriv intimur kavSirs

isaxavs miznad da organizmis sqesobrivi

urTierTobisaTvis mzadyofnis

maniSnebelia.

qalebSi libido ganviTarebis

srulyofas 26-28 wlis asakSi aRwevs

da 45-60 wlamde narCundeba.

45-50 wlis asakSi, organizmSi

mimdinare hormonul cvlilebaTa

paralelurad, is mniSvnelovnad

sustdeba, zogierTi qalbatoni

klimaqterul periodSi, libidos

araadekvatur xanmokle gaZlierebas

aRniSnavs, romelic Semdeg

kvlav qveiTdeba da bolos saerTodac

qreba (involuciuri alibidemia).

`civi~ qalebi

mamakacebi da qalebi

seqsualobis mixedviT

gansxvadebian

mamakacebi, SeiZleba iTqvas,

rom seqsualuri urTierTobisaTvis

yovelTvis mzad arian, qalebSi

ki aseTi survili garkveuli seqsualuri

stimulaciis Sedegad

ibadeba.

viRacisaTvis sakmarisia erogenul

zonebis mcired gaRizianeba,

zogierTebi mxolod maSin igznebian,

rodesac maT uars eubnebian;

arian iseTebic, romlebsac garkveuli

suni da aromati aRagznebs.

cnobilia, e.w. gonieri qalis tipi,

romlebsac mxolod wignier mamakacebTan

surT intimuri kavSiri,

qalbatonTa erTi nawili ki _ mamakacis

garegnobas aniWebs upiratesobas,

anu arc erT qalSi sqesobrivi

urTierTobis survili Tavidanve

ar devs, mis warmosaqmnelad

konkretuli, garkveuli pirobebia

saWiro.

zogadad, qalTa seqsualobasa

da intimuri urTierTobis survils

uSualod gansazRvravs partnior

mamakacis moxerxeba da gamocdileba.

alibidemia

reproduqciuli asakis qalbatonTa

alibidemia seqsualuri

ltolvis sruli uqonlobaa, romelic

upiratesad susti sqesis

warmomadgenlebs axasiaTebT da

yvelaze xSirad, es Tandayolili

an SeZenili neiroendokrinologiur

darRvevebiT aris ganpirobebuli.

qalis mTeli reproduqciul

funqcias hipoTalamo-hipofiz-Tirkmelzeda

jirkvlebi _ sakvercxe-

Ta sistema ganagebs. libidos daqveiTeba

an misi sruli gaqroba

swored am sistemis romelime

rgolSi normaluri muSaobis Seferxebis

an funqcionirebis moSlis

Sedegia.

involuciuri alibidemiisagan

gansxvavebiT, romelic qalis organizmSi

mimdinare asakobriv cvlilebebs

ukavSirdeba, arsebobs alibidemia,

romelic axalgazrda qalebSi

sqesobrivi cxovrebisadmi

srul gulgrilobasa da infantilizms

iwvevs da misi gamosworeba

sqesobriv sferoSi yvelaze gamocdil

mamakacebsac ki ar SeuZliaT.

swored amitom, erT-erTi yvelaze

xSiri mizezi, ris gamoc axalgazrda

qalebi seqsologebsa da ginekologebs

akiTxaven, swored alibidemia

da agznebasTan dakavSirebuli

problemebia.

Tanamedrove monacemebiT, qalTa

10-15% dabadebidanve frigiduli

(seqsualurad civi) an naklebtemperamentulia,

rac SesaZloa gamovlindes

rogorc sqesobrivi cxovrebis

dawyebisas, ise wlebis man-

Zilze srulfasovani sqesobriv

cxovrebis Semdeg.

qalTa frigiduloba zogjer

droebiTia da garkveuli xnis Sem-

deg ukvalod qreba, zogjer ki samudamod

grZeldeba.

zogierTi qali nawilobriv

frigidulia, es seleqciuri, SefardebiTi

alibidemiaa, romelic

mxolod romelime konkretul partniorTan

(qmarTan, mamakacTan, romelic

Zlier sZuls, an piriqiT

masTan, vis mimarTac ukiduresad

did simpaTias ganicdis), konkretul

situaciaSi (erT saxlSi na-

TesavebTan an SvilebTan cxovrebisas),

emociur mdgomareobebSi (depresia,

SfoTva, SiSi) an cxovrebis

romelime periodSi vlindeba.

arsebobs sruli, generalizebuli

alibidemia, roca qali civia

nebismier partniorTan, nebismier

situaciaSi.

frigiduli qali, anu

ratom `civdeba~ qali

gamomwvevi mizezebis mixediT

frigidulobis ramdenime forma ganirCeva:

zogierTebSi es sqesobrivi gr-

Znobebis dagvianebul ganviTarebas

ukavSirdeba (retardaciuli alibidemia),

aseT qalebSi sqesobrivi

ltolvisa da orgazmis gancdis

unari gvian viTardeba, simwifis

asakTan erTad es grZnobebi formirdeba,

maTSi iRviZebs sqeosobivi

ltolva da seqsualuri interesebic

Cveulebrivze gacilebiT gvian

Cndeba.

seqsualuri sicive xSirad romelime

paTologiis Tanmxlebi, an

misi garTulebis Sedegia (simptomuri

forma); xSirad es gamowveulia

Tavisa da zurgis tvinis pa-

TologiebiT, mizezi SeiZleba iyos

narkomania, endokrinuli darRvevebi,

sasqeso organoTa ganuviTarebloba,

mSobiarobis Semdgom saSos

did zomaze gafarToeba, ginekologiuri

daavadebebi da sxva.

simptomuri frigiduloba

droebiT SesaZloa, gamoiwvios avitaminozma,

postinfeqciurma asTeniam,

narkotikebisa da alkoholis

borotad gamoyenebam, intoqsikaciebma,

gonebrivma da fizikurma gadaqancvam,

trankvilizatorebma, yvela

im preparatma, romlebic centraluri

nervuli sistemis modunebas

iwvevs.

zogjer alibidemia Tandayolili

paTologiaa (konstituciuri

forma), roca qali fsiqo-seqsualuri

funqciis ukmarisobiT ibade-

ba. isini janmrTeli da srulfasovani

qalebi arian, SeuZliaT janmrTeli

Svilebis gaCena, magram arasodes

ganicdian seqsualur

ltolvas.

arsebobs fsiqogenuri frigidulobac,

roca seqsualuri

moTxovnebi fsiqologiuri faqtorebiT

iTrguneba; konkretulad,

alibidemiis Camoyalibebis mizezad

SesaZloa, iqces viTareba, rodesac

qmari qalis warmodgenaSi arsebul

ideals ar Seefereba. amasTan, arc

ise myaria maTi ojaxuri urTier-

Tobebi; qals Zlier uyvars sxva

mamakaci; es SeiZleba gamoiwvios

fsiqotravmulma situaciebmac, ramac

qalSi didi stresi da SiSi

gamoiwvia: bavSvobaSi gadatanili

seqsualuri Zaladoba, qmris uxe-

Soba saqorwino Rames, defloraciisas

gancdili Zlieri tkivili,

daorsulebisa da veneriuli sneulebiT

dainficirebis SiSi, partniorisadmi

undobloba, lodinis nevrozi.

gamonaklis SemTxvevaSi alibidemia

da frigiduloba SesaZloa,

araswori sqesobrivi aRzrdis Sedegic

iyos _ asketuri, mkacri aRzrdis

pirobebi, qaliSvilobaSi

nebismieri seqsualuri gamovlenis

daTrgunva zogierTebSi mniSvnelovnad

aferxebs mowinaaRmdege

sqesisadmi normalur, fiziologiur

ltolvis Camoyalibebas.

organoTa amokveTis

Semdgom provocirebuli

alibidemia

garTulebuli orsulobis,

mSobiarobis Tu sxva saxis ginekologiuri

paTologiebisas, saWiro

xdeba xolme saSvilosnosa da misi

danamatebis, Tirkmelzeda jirkvlis

amokveTa. msgavsi operacia

zogjer SesaZloa iqces alibidemiis

mizezad an garkveulwilad uaryofiTad

aisaxos meuRleTa Soris

sqesobriv urTierTobaze.

qalis sqesobriv ltolvas estrogenebze

(qalis sasqeso hormonebi)

metad, mamakacis sasqeso hormonebi

_ androgenebi ganapirobebs.

orgazmis gancdis unari saSos wina

kedelze ganlagebul nervul

receptorebzea damokidebuli. amitom

sakvercxeebis, aseve saSvilosnos

amokveTis Semdeg meuRleTa

sqesobriv urTierTobaSi TiTqmis

araferi icvleba, srulad narCundeba

sqesobrivi ltolvac da misi

dakmayofilebis unaric, rasac ver

vityviT, Tirkmelzeda jirkvalze,

romlis amokveTis Semdegac mosalodnelia,

rom sqesobrivi grZnoba

nawilobriv Sesustdes an srulad

gaqres kidec.

miTebi `civ

qalTa~ Sesaxeb

sazogadoebaSi seqsualurad

civ qalbatonTa Sesaxeb uamravi

mcdari azri arsebobs. marTla gansxvavdebian

isini danarCenebisgan

Tu es morigi miTia?

didi Secdomaa frigidul qalebze

imis Tqma, rom maT siyvaruli

ar SeuZliaT an maTTvis ucxoa

ojaxuri bedniereba.

isini SesaniSnavi colebi, dedebi

arian, uyvarT qaluri sinaziT,

ganicdian qmrisadmi did siyvaruls,

pativs scemen da afaseben

rogorc megobarsa da Svilebis mamas.

SeiZleba iTqvas, umravlesobas

ubralod ar gaumarTla da ver

Sexvda im mamakacs, maTSi qaluri

seqsualobis gaRviZebas rom SesZlebda.

seqsualuri aversia

seqsualuri cxovrebisadmi gulgrilobis

garda, frigiduli qalebi

zogjer sqesobrivi aqtisadmi

udides zizRsa da siZulvilsac

ganicdian. am movlenas seqsualur

aversias vuwodebT. zogjer zizRi

mxolod sqesobriv aqtisadmi Cndeba,

zogjer ki is generalizdeba da

partniorzec vrceldeba; ufro metic,

arseboben qalebi, romlebic

sqesobriv aqts ufro advilad

itanen, vidre partnioris alerss.

aversia partniorTa Soris

uaryofiTi urTierTobis an gadatanili

specifikuri seqsualuri

travmis Sedegia.

rogor davamarcxoT

seqsualuri sicive

* upirveles yovlisa aucilebelia

seqsologTan viziti.

* medikamentur Terapiamde pacientTan

saWiro saTanado kontaqtis

damyareba, gulwrfelobisa da

ndobis atmosferos Seqmna, rac intimur

sakiTxTa gamovlenis saSualebas

iZleva.

* gasaTvaliswinebelia eTnikuri

da zneobrivi warmodgenebi, pacientis

pirovnuli Taviseburebani,

cxovrebi wesi, profesia da sxva.

rac Seexeba sakuTriv antialibidemiur

Terapias, is kompleqsurad,

zogadi da adgilobrivi procedurebiT

tardeba.

zogadi Terapia arc ise didi

xnis winaT, qalis sasqeso hormonebiT

mkurnalobas moicavda, magram

frigidul qalebSi fiziologiurad

mimdinareobs menstruacia,

orsuloba, mSobiaroba, rac estrogenebis

normalur produqciaze

miuTiTebs, amitom dRes alibidemiis

samkurnalod qalis sasqeso

hormonebs mxolod maSin iyeneben,

roca qals es maCvenebelebi normidan

aqvs gadaxrili.

Tumca maTi daniSvnisas saWiroa

didi sifrTxile _ qalis sasqeso

hormonebiT mkurnaloba ar

SeiZleba im qalbatonebisaTvis,

romlebsac saSvilosnos fibroma,

mastopaTia, saSvilosnos yelis

erozia da polipozi awuxebT, agreTve

RviZlis da Tirkmelebis daavadebebisas,

tuberkulozisa da

epilefsiis dros.

dadebiTi Sedegi moaqvs androgenebiT

mkurnalobasac, gansakuTrebiT

im qalebSi, romelTac kargad

aqvT ganviTarebuli meoradi

sasqeso niSnebi da analizebiTac

dgindeba, rom maT organizmSi estrogenebis

siWarbis fonze androgenebis

aSkara deficitia.

sifrTxile aqac saWiroa: androgenebis

miReba dauyovnebliv unda

Sewydes saxeze cximianobis da

Tmianobis momatebis, xmis CaxleCvis,

Tmis cvenis da sxeulis masis

momatebis an menstrualuri ciklis

darRvevisas.

* adgilobrivi meTodebidan aRsaniSnavia

fizioTerapia, romelic

miznad isaxavs sasqeso organoebSi

hiperemiis gamowvevas da erotizacias.

es cxeli wylisa da talaxis

abazanebiT, saSos tamponebiT, sasqeso

organoebis diaTermiiTa da

gareTa sasqeso organoebis darsonvalizaciiT

miiRweva.

cxeli fizioTerapiuli procedurebi

araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar

SeiZleba saSvilosnos miomiT daavadebuli

pacientebisaTvis.

* fsiqogenur alibidemias, Cveulebriv,

fsiqoTerapiiT mkurnaloben,

Tanamedrove medikamentebi

da kvlevis uamravi saSualeba

dRes iseTi pacientebis gankurnebis

saSualebasac iZleva, romlebsac

ramdenime wlis win verafers

vSvelodiT. samwuxarod, 100-procentiani

gankurneba, jerjerobiT,

ver xerxdeba. es ZiriTadad konstituciur

alibidemias exeba, danarCeni

formebisas, SemTxvevaTa

65-70 procentSi, mkurnaloba warmatebulia

da `civi~ qalebic ramdenime

TveSi srulfasovan sqesobriv

cxovrebas iwyeben.

zviad RonRaZe


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mamis memkvidre, Tu

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ojaxebis monacemTa erTian

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mTlianad gaTavisuflebT

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* * *

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_ Tqven gadaixdiT momsaxurebis

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* * *

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romlisganac myavs qaliSvili.

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qaliSvili Cems gvarze gadmoviyvano.rogor

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gvaris SecvlisaTvis

aucilebelia misi Tanxmobac.

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sasamarTloSi yofili meuRlis

winaaRmdeg alimentis moTxovniT.

SemiZlia Tu ara, sasamarTloSi

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miRebamde, vinaidan, es

Tanxa saWiroa Cveni Svilis janmrTelobis

gamosakvlevad.

_ diax, SegiZliaT.

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alimentis gadaxdis sakiTxze

da dava warimarTa sasamarTloSi

, sasamarTlom manamdec

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alimentis gadaxda, sanam

dava sabolood gadawydeba - anu

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iseT sakiTxebzec, rogoricaa

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aRsazrdelad

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da sxva.

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_ mindobiT aRzrda gulisxmobs

saxelmwifosa da mimReb

ojaxs Soris dadebuli xelSekrulebis

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ojaxis mier arasrulwlovani

bavSvis movlasa da aRzrdas,

risTvisac mimRebi ojaxi saxelmwifosagan

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aRsazrdelze zrunvis xarjebs.

* * *

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ar vimyofebodi registrirebul

qorwinebaSi. gvyavs

sami Svili. var Tu ara Cemi

gardacvlili meuRlis memkvidre?

_ samoqalaqo kanonmdeblobis

mixedviT, dauqorwinebel pirebs

ara aqvT erTmaneTis mimarT

memkvidreobis ufleba, anu vinaidan,

Tqven ar imyofebodiT registrirebul

samoqalaqo qorwinebaSi

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ganacxadebT pretenzias mis danatovar

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saqarTvelos prezidentma

mixeil saakaSvilma se-

TuriviT saxelebis gamocvla

daiwyo da amieridan

opozicia damiZaxeTo, _ ganacxada.

_ opozicia, opozicia,

opozicia! _ agugundnen

myisve saakaSvilis monaspani

da patrons mdablad

sces Tayvani.

`nacmoZraobis~ asine-

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xelidan gvacliso.

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teqstidan fragmentis kiTxva

da gadacemis wamyvans, JiJilaSvils,

kinaRam guli wauvida

_ oRond eg ara, batono

zaza, oRond amas nu waikiTxavTo,

_ Seemudara davi-

Taias ganwiruli xmiT.

ki, magram, ratom ar unda

waikiTxos, qalbatono nino,

daviTaiam burWulaZis teqstis

es fragmenti?

kacma (burWulaZem) dawera,

dabeWda, wignad gamoaqveyna

da daviTaias wakiTxvis

uflebac ar aqvs?

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demokratiul msoflios

gasagonad brali dasdo _

es xelisufleba (`qarTuli

ocneba~) im xelisuflebas

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uRerebs da gviSveleTo.

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ratom hqvia opozicia politikur

Zalas, romlis

meTauria qveynis prezidenti

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ve dros opoziciac,

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gamocvla mounda

da Tu aqamde fa-

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axla opozicia

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opozicia, ra Tqma unda,

gacilebiT sjobs zemoTCamoTvlil

saxelebs _ fa-

Sists, diqtators, jalaTs.

gavzomoT JiJilaSvilTan erTad anu

ra ufro mZime danaSaulia _ adamianis

gaupatiureba tvinidan Tu ukanalidan?

`nacmoZraobis~ dacvaa sazogadoebis

mxridan mosalodneli

SurisZiebisagan, Tumca

tyuilad eSiniaT `liberalebs~

_ qarTveli xalxi ar

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da am procesze ara marto

jalaTobaSi mxilebuli

Semsruleblebi daisjebian

kanonis mTeli simkacriT,

aramed SemkveTebic.

dro mova, qarTveli eri

sisxlis samarTlis pasuxismgeblobas

Tu ara moralur

pasuxismgeblobas mainc daakisrebs

im pirebsac, romlebic

wlebis ganmavlobaSi

cdilobdnen eris degradaci-

ki, batono, davuZaxoT

opozicia da Tavzec wamebulis

gvirgvini davadgaT

masac da mis gundis TiToeul

wevrsac _ ase ufro

damajerebli iqneba saarako

ambavi `nacebis~ gaopozicionerebisa.

is, garyvnisa da gaxrwnisTvis

xelis Sewyobas.

maT farTod hqondaT gaxsnili

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da uzneobis propagandas.

erT-erTi gamorCeuli subieqti

uzneobis ideologTa

desantis SemadgenlobaSi

qalbatoni JiJilaSvilis mier

sazogadoebrivi azris gasazomad

mowveuli zaza bur-

WulaZe gaxlavT.

burWulaZeebi da maTi

msgavsni mentalurad didad

ar gansxvavdebian im jalaTebisgan,

romlebic cocxis tarebs

da prezervativwamocmul

`dubinkebs~ urWobdnen

adamianebs ukanalSi.

esenic, es burWulaZeebic,

igives akeTeben, oRond akeTeben

sityvieri zemoqmedebis

saSualebiT, verbalurad,

rac fizikur zemoqmedebaze

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is jalaTebi ukana tanidan

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da ryvnian, rac,

ara gvgonia, naklebad mZime

danaSauli iyos, vidre ukanalSi

cocxis taris Cxikini.


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