Seaqo batonma daviTma da manac iolad moartya
Seaqo batonma daviTma da manac iolad moartya
Seaqo batonma daviTma da manac iolad moartya
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23 dekemberi 2011mweralilaSa ime<strong>da</strong>Svili:`isev aseTiTavisufleba sjobs~literaturuli gazeTiinterviu13<strong>da</strong>sasruliaseve Cveni mSoblebis Taoba, erTmaneTisgansruliad gansxvavebuli stilis,Janris, niWisa <strong>da</strong> mimdinareobisavtorebi. asec un<strong>da</strong> iyos, radgan literaturuliprocesi ar aris mxolodwarmatebuli a<strong>da</strong>mianebis kuTvnileba.literaturuli procesi yvelasia,cuds <strong>da</strong> kargs ki dro ga<strong>da</strong>arCevs. er-TaderTi, rac zustad vici, TanamedroveqarTuli literatura arafriTCamorCeba msoflioSi mimdinare procesebs.axalgazrdoba namdvilad iZlevaoptimizmis safuZvels, romaraferi vTqva ufrosebze. Tumca cotagul<strong>da</strong>wyvetiT vityvi, rom Cveni mamebibolo periodSi veRar Tu aRar weren,magram aris Taoba, romelic amasaranaklebi warmatebiT akeTebs. Sesa-Zloa, maTi nawerebi Janrobrivad cotagansxvavebulia, zogjer epataJuri <strong>da</strong>gamaRizianebeli, magram esec am procesisSemadgeneli nawilia. marTlaRirebuli <strong>da</strong> saintereso teqstebi iqmneba<strong>da</strong> amis ar<strong>da</strong>naxva SeuZlebelia._ konkretulad gamoyofdiTvinmes?_ <strong>da</strong>konkretebisgan Tavs Sevikaveb,radgan yvela erTi amqris wevrebi varT,erT saqmes vakeTebT. zogi ukeTesad,zogi – uaresad, magram vakeTebT. er-TaderTi, am sferos sWirdeba a<strong>da</strong>miani,pirobiTad, promouteri, vinc am yvelaferssistemaSi moaqcevs. sworadun<strong>da</strong> ganisazRvros, rogor mimdinareobsprocesi, ra dinebebia, vin vin aris.swored aq aris saWiro literaturaTmcodnismaxvili Tvali, romelic yvelafersTavis adgils miuCens,<strong>da</strong>alagebs <strong>da</strong> am codnas momavalTaobebs ga<strong>da</strong>scems._ kidev erTi Sefaseba, romelicxSirad msmenia – Tanamedrove qarTuliliteratura sakuTar wvenSi ixarSeba<strong>da</strong> farTo gasaqani ara aqvs._ erTi mxriv, marTalia, Tu imasvigulisxmebT, rom Cveni literaturaqveynis farglebs gareT ar gadis <strong>da</strong>verc gava, Tu ar iTargmna. es erT-erTiyvelaze mniSvnelovani sakiTxia <strong>da</strong> kulturissaministrom <strong>da</strong>iwyo am mimarTulebiTmuSaoba. axals arafers vambob,magram rom <strong>da</strong>fiqrde, paradoqsuliviTarebaa: Tavi mogvaqvs, gveamayeba,magram rad gin<strong>da</strong>, versad gavdivarT,aravin gvicnobs. qarTuli literaturaerTian msoflio procesSi Tu arCaerTo, ver ganvviTardebiT. xelovnebis<strong>da</strong>narCeni Janrebi _ musika, Teatri,mxatvroba universaluria <strong>da</strong> ase Tu isegagvaqvs sazRvargareT. literaturacota specifiuria – un<strong>da</strong> iTargmnos <strong>da</strong>ise gavides, amas gar<strong>da</strong>, wigns wardgenacsWirdeba, un<strong>da</strong> gaacno avtori <strong>da</strong>misi qmnileba mkiTxvels. amis mSvenierimagaliTi iyo ramdenime Tvis win gamarTulifrankfurtis wignis bazroba,sa<strong>da</strong>c <strong>da</strong>mswre sazogadoebas qarTvelmweralTa jgufi <strong>da</strong> maTi Semoqmedebawarudgines. aseTi aqtivobebi aucilebelia.am mxriv marTlac Cvens wvenSivixarSebiT, axla viwyebT pirvelinabijebis ga<strong>da</strong>dgmas <strong>da</strong> msofliosTanmiaxloebas._ mwerlis ostatobasa <strong>da</strong> TemebissimwiresTan <strong>da</strong>kavSirebiT ar gaqvTpretenzia?_ ara. Temebs rac Seexeba, ra Tqmaun<strong>da</strong>, jer Sensaze wer <strong>da</strong> Tu es naweriRirebulia, mere xdeba ganzogadeba.amis magaliTad nebismieri klasikurinawarmoebi gamodgeba. frangebifrangebze weren, germanelebi _ germanelebze.pewi imaSia _ ra ostatobiTakeTebs amas mwerali. upirvelesi ostatobaa.kldiaSvils cu<strong>da</strong>d rom <strong>da</strong>ewera,imerlebze <strong>da</strong>weril teqstebad<strong>da</strong>rCebo<strong>da</strong>, mis SemTxvevaSi ki miviReTmsoflio donis produqti, rogorcdRes amboben._ promouteri axseneT. rogorfiqrobT, literaturas sWirdebapromouSeni?_ rogor ara. CvenTan wlebis ganmavlobaSiaraswori midgoma iyo am sakiTxisadmi.wigni aris biznesi,rogorc, sityvaze, karaqi <strong>da</strong> esnuravis ewyineba. gamouSveb kargkaraqs _ gaiyideba. wignic aseTiveproduqtia, oRond mkiTxvelamde sworadun<strong>da</strong> miitano._ es visi saqmea?_ televiziebis, masmediis sxva<strong>da</strong>sxvasaSualebis, magram pirvel rig-Si, mainc konkursebis. konkursisaukeTeso promouSenia: axalbe<strong>da</strong> avtorissaxeli amotivtivdeba, Zvelisasgaixseneben; am Zvelma SeiZlebasruliad axali produqti Seqmnas, amitom,rac meti konkursi iqneba, metistimulia mwerlisTvisac <strong>da</strong> literaturuliprocesisTvisac. aucilebelicaa,Tu Tavs Tavmoyvare saxelmwifodmiiCnev. did qveynebSi Zalianbevri konkursia, CvenTan jerjerobiTsul ramdenime, Tumca ukve tradiciulicgax<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong> prestiJulic. axalgazrdebiTavs iklaven gamarjvebisTvis,radgan es mSvenieri SesaZleblobaaTviT<strong>da</strong>mkvidrebisTvis –pir<strong>da</strong>piri eTeri, fuladi jildo,popularoba. vinc ityvis, rom es mis-Tvis naklebadmniSvnelovania, marTaliar iqneba. isev wignis bizness <strong>da</strong>vubrundebi<strong>da</strong> reziumes saxiT vityvi,rom am biznesis mTavari funqciaa,rogorme miitanos mwerlis produqtimkiTxvelTan. SeiZleba produqtiar aRmoCndes xarisxiani, Tumca amasacbazari ga<strong>da</strong>arCevs._ es miscems mwerals sakuTariSemoqmedebiT arsebobis SesaZleblobas?_ is, rom mweralma wigniT irCinosTavi, jerjerobiT warmoudgenelia.SeiZleba odesme <strong>da</strong>dges aseTi dro,dRes ki SeuZlebelia. mwerlobiTTavis gatana rTulia ufro winwasulqveynebSic, Tu stiven kingi ar xar an`hari poteri~ ar gaqvs <strong>da</strong>werili._ es sxva rangis literaturaa._ Tumca masac aqvs Tavisi adgili.SeiZleba roulingi ar aris Tomas manisdonis, magram arc mTlad xelwamosakravia– gamarTulad wers <strong>da</strong>raRac moTxovnebs akmayofilebs. iqacanalogiuri problemebia. warmoidgineT,ra rTulia amasTan gamklaveba,miT ufro, rom <strong>da</strong>savleTSi bazaricdidia <strong>da</strong> metnaklebad <strong>da</strong>lagebulic,Cven ki am yvelafers axla vswavlobT.Cven xom sruliad gansxvavebuli sistemagvqon<strong>da</strong>, sa<strong>da</strong>c winaswar isazRvrebo<strong>da</strong>yvelaferi – erTs sasaTburepirobebi hqon<strong>da</strong>, meores – araferi.wignis gamocema naklebad iyo <strong>da</strong>mokidebulixelobasa <strong>da</strong> niWierebaze,ufro marifaTi Wri<strong>da</strong>._ dRes viTareba Seicvala?_ ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>. Tu kargad wer,wigns aucileblad gamoscem. maSin kisaTanado miTiTebis gareSe ar <strong>da</strong>gibe-W<strong>da</strong>vdnen. dRes gamomcemeli gansazRvravs,uRirs Tu ara Seni naweris<strong>da</strong>beWdva <strong>da</strong> ara partiuli komiteti._ anu bevr rames niWi ganapirobebs?_ rasakvirvelia. meore mxriv, esqmnis imis saSiSroebasac, rom didiraodenobiT makulatura <strong>da</strong>ibeWdos,magram isev aseTi Tavisufleba sjobs.<strong>da</strong>ibeWdos bevri cudi <strong>da</strong> ori-samikargi. mkiTxveli Tavad ga<strong>da</strong>wyvets, raurCevnia, ras waikiTxavs. sjobs, bevrmaweros, beWdos <strong>da</strong> mere ukve drom <strong>da</strong>mkiTxvelma gansazRvros, ra iyo cudi,ra _ kargi.esaubra nana kobaiZegamomcemelilia SalvaSvili:qarTvelebi didsaganZurs vflobT<strong>da</strong>sasruli<strong>da</strong>smuli problemebi gasagebi un<strong>da</strong> iyosTanamedrove ucxoeli mkiTxvelisTvis.rac mTavaria, is un<strong>da</strong> gaitacos, <strong>da</strong>ainteresosambavma, istoriam, romelsacavtori hyveba. ase rom, qarTuli literaturisnimuSebis Targmnas gonivruliSerCeva sWirdeba._ uaxloes momavalSi kidev raimesTargmnas xom ar apirebT?_ vamzadebT proeqts _ `qarTulixalxuri zRaprebi~ inglisur enaze._ ucxour prozas ki iSviaTadTargmniT qarTulad..._ aqamde ufrosebisTvis mxoloderTi wigni _ `angelozebis risxva~ gamoveciT.romani cnobil mwerals, mravaliliteraturuli jildos mflobels,sidni Seldons ekuTvnis. deteqtivismoyvaruli mkiTxvelisTvis `angelozebisrisxva~ sayvarel wignadiqca.am mimarTulebiT muSaobas momaval-Sic gavagrZelebT, Tumca sabaSvo literaturaCvens ZiriTad prioritetadrCeba._ rogorc aRniSneT, bavSvebSiZalze popularulia Jurnali `min<strong>da</strong>yvelaferi vicode~, romelsac `Semecneba~yovelTviurad gamoscems._ Jurnali ToTxmet wlamde bavSvebisTvisaagankuTvnili. misi saxiTnorC mkiTxvels sakmaod sainteresosakiTxavs vTavazobT. Jurnali mdi<strong>da</strong>riarubrikebiT _ `saocari samyaro~,`wignis samyaro~, `wignis Wia~, `gamogonebebi~,`jansaRi sxeuli~, `sabavSvobiblia~, `sporti~, `flora <strong>da</strong> fauna~,`gonebis savarjiSo~ _ patarebisa <strong>da</strong>mozardebis cnobismoyvareobas yvelamimarTulebiT akmayofilebs. marTalia,Jurnali SemecnebiTi xasiaTisgamocemaa, magram masSi mxatvruliliteraturis saukeTeso nimuSebic gvxvdeba.aq qarTveli <strong>da</strong> ucxoeli avtorebismoTxrobebsa <strong>da</strong> leqsebs vbeW<strong>da</strong>vT.yovelTvis viTvaliwinebT, Tu weliwadisra dros, romel Tves gamodisnomeri <strong>da</strong> masalas Tematurad varCevT.mkiTxvels viqtorinasac vTavazobT.viqtorinaSi aqtiurad monawileobenbavSvebi. gamarjvebuls ki wigniT vajildovebT.SegiZliaT es kiTxvis popularizaciiskenmimarTul erTgvaraqcia<strong>da</strong>c CaTvaloT. <strong>da</strong>meTanxmebiT,axalgazr<strong>da</strong> Taobas wigniT <strong>da</strong>interesebanamdvilad sWirdeba._ wignis popularizaciis TvalsazrisiT,sabavSvo gamomcemlobebispasuxismgeboba gansakuTrebiT didia._ vfiqrob, bavSvs wignis samyaroupirveles yovlisa mSobelma <strong>da</strong> Semdeg,maswavlebelma un<strong>da</strong> Seayvaros. realobaisaa, rom kompiuterul epoqaSivcxovrobT <strong>da</strong> Cveni Wkviani bavSvebicnobismoyvareobis <strong>da</strong>kmayofilebasinternetis saSualebiT mSvenivrad axerxeben.Tumca roca saqme ganaTlebasa<strong>da</strong> codnis siRrmiseulad <strong>da</strong>uflebasexeba, cxadia, aq wigns veraferi Secvlis.mTavaria, ufrosebs uyvardeTwigni <strong>da</strong> magaliTs aZlevdnen bavSvebs.Jurnalis sare<strong>da</strong>qcio jgufs pasuxismgeblobanorCi mkiTxveliswinaSe mTlianad gaTavisebuli aqvs.min<strong>da</strong> madlierebiT movxsenio isini _poeti mariam wiklauri, irma malaciZe,manana maWavariani, bela saria <strong>da</strong> janakaxiani. Jurnalis vizualur mxarezezrunaven dizainerebi _ baCo gagua,nato yubaneiSvili <strong>da</strong> badri CugoSvili,mxatvrebi _ ilia WrelaSvili<strong>da</strong> mamuka tyeSelaSvili. stilistigaxlavT lali bregvaZe-kaxiani._ wignebis gamocemazec igivejgufi muSaobs?_ wignebis gamocemaze mowveulire<strong>da</strong>qtorebi muSaoben. roca garkveuliproeqtis idea yalibdeba <strong>da</strong> misganxorcielebaze zrunvas viwyebT, re<strong>da</strong>qtorsacproeqtis profilis SesabamisadvirCevT. re<strong>da</strong>qtors wignisSedgena <strong>da</strong> misi Sinaarsobrivi nawilismowesrigeba evaleba. analogiuri ur-TieToba gvaqvs dizainerebTan <strong>da</strong> mxatvrebTan.maTi SerCevisas viTvaliswinebT,Tu ra saxis wignze vmuSaobT._ ra sixSiriT gamoscemT wignebs<strong>da</strong> sad beW<strong>da</strong>vT maT?_ `Semecneba~ weliwadSi saSualodxuT-eqvs wigns gamoscems <strong>da</strong>saqarTveloSi beW<strong>da</strong>vs.esaubra Tamar Juruli
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