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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
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eqskluzivi<br />
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gv. 7<br />
`sosoNEWS~-i<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N2 2 (179) 24.01<br />
01.201<br />
.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />
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gv. 2<br />
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N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 gv. 10<br />
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gv. 4<br />
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muxti nel-nela dasasrulisken midioda,<br />
amas emateboda is faqtoric,<br />
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Tavelis moedanze Tbilisis meriis<br />
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sastiki darbeva daiwyes.<br />
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gamoiwvia da SuadRisas parlamentis<br />
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Jurnalistebs, deputatebs<br />
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Seuvardnen da mas kategori-<br />
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istoria aqvs: es is droa, roca la-<br />
Sa nacvliSvilis faqtoris gamo<br />
Cemi da biZina ivaniSvilis dapirispireba<br />
ukve dawyebulia, moqmedi<br />
premieri yvela sajaro gamosvla-<br />
Si yvela brunvaSi axsenebs Cems<br />
saxelsa da gvars, momxdaria xvedeliZis<br />
saqmesTan dakavSirebuli<br />
skandalic da „reportioris” damfuZnebeli<br />
nugzar fofxaZe daxmarebas<br />
mTxovs, mas informacia<br />
aqvs imis Taobaze, rom giorgi<br />
faresiSvili Tamar CergoleiSvils<br />
Sexvda da igegmeba farTomas-<br />
Stabiani Seteva „reportioris”<br />
winaaRmdeg. nugzar fofxaZe mTxovs,<br />
vnaxo givi TargamaZe da mas<br />
misi Txovna gadavce, rom Tamar<br />
CergoleiSvili faresiSvilis mxares<br />
ar aRmoCndes. am droisTvis,<br />
jer kidev, ar vici, rom nugzar<br />
fofxaZis es Txovna piradad Cem-<br />
Tvis dagebuli maxea, rom realurad<br />
mas givi TargamaZesTan kargaxniani<br />
nacnoboba akavSirebs, maT<br />
Soris, fasdaudebeli daxmareba<br />
aqvs gaweuli misTvis „imedidan”<br />
Jurnalistebis gadmobirebis saqmeSi.<br />
me vxvdebi givi TargamaZes „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” ofisSi, gadavcem<br />
mas nugzar fofxaZis Txovnas,<br />
samagierod viReb pirobas, rom<br />
Tamar CergoleiSvili giorgi faresiSvilis<br />
skandalSi ar Caereva.<br />
paralelurad, socialur qselSi<br />
ukve vrceldeba informacia imis<br />
Taobaze, rom me givi TargamaZes vxvdebi,<br />
misgan viReb masalebs da a.<br />
S. es grZeldeba manam, sanam ramdenime<br />
Tvis mere erT-erT sajaro inteviuSi<br />
ar vyvebi, rom givi TargamaZes<br />
nugzar fofxaZis TxovniT<br />
Sevxvdi. am dRis mere momentalurad<br />
wydeba Cemi da givi TargamaZis<br />
erT konteqstSi xseneba.<br />
gigi ugulavasa da irakli<br />
RaribaSvilis partiul Sexvedrebs<br />
rom davubrundeT, Ss ministri<br />
irakli RaribaSvili erT punqtad<br />
ayenebs pirobas, rom me givi TargamaZe<br />
unda Camexsnas, rac Seexeba<br />
danarCen pirobebs, saqme exeba qveynidan<br />
wasul maRalCinosnebs, rom<br />
maTze interpoliT Zebna ar unda<br />
gamocxaddes da politikuri dakavebebic<br />
unda Sewydes. am informaciis<br />
miRebis Semdeg CemTvis ukve<br />
cxadia, rom nugzar fofxaZe „qronika+”-is<br />
faqtoriT irakli RaribaSvilTan<br />
garkveul spekulaciebs<br />
eweva da nel-nela vcdilob distancirebas,<br />
Tumca, irkveva, rom<br />
bolomde prevencias mainc ver vaxerxeb.<br />
ugulavasa da RaribaSvilis kuluarul<br />
molaparakebebs realurad<br />
Sedegi ar gamouRia, xelisuflebam<br />
arc erTi dapireba ar Seasrula,<br />
interpoliT Zebna gamoacxada<br />
daviT kezeraSvilze, zurab<br />
adeiSvilze, daTa axalaiaze, erekle<br />
koduasa da sxva maRalCinosnebze,<br />
gigi ugulava ki adgilobrivi<br />
arCevnebis dros daakava. Cveni<br />
wyaro ambobs, rom dakavebamde<br />
gigi ugulava mixeil saakaSvils<br />
kievSi Sexvda, saakaSvilma Tbilisis<br />
yofil mers urCia, rom cixeSi<br />
ar Camjdariyo da masTan erTad<br />
ukrainaSi gaegrZelebina brZola.<br />
rogorc amboben, saqarTveloSi<br />
dabrunebulma ugulavam, megobrebTan<br />
konsultaciis Semdeg, mixeil<br />
saakaSvilis rCevis gaTvaliswineba<br />
gadawyvita, gamoacxada,<br />
rom ukrainaSi patriarq kirilTan<br />
Sesaxvedrad midioda, ukan dasabrunebeli<br />
bileTic aRebuli hqonda,<br />
magram xelisuflebam gigi ugulavas<br />
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da Tbilisis meri aeroportSi<br />
daakava.<br />
ugulavas dakavebamde ki moxda<br />
da gigi ugulavas gadaveci<br />
irakli RaribaSvili<br />
kidev erTi skandaluri faqti, romlis<br />
uSualo monawilec piradad<br />
me gaxlavarT da dRes ganviTarebuli<br />
movlenebis fonze da maRali<br />
sazogadoebrivi interesidan<br />
gamomdinare, Tavs valdebulad miviCnev,<br />
am Temaze sajarod visaubro.<br />
2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi<br />
gadamwyveti faqtori cixis<br />
skandaluri kadrebis gasajaroeba<br />
iyo. dRemde ar wydeba polemika<br />
imis Taobaze, rogor moaxerxa<br />
gldanis cixis badragma vladimer<br />
bedukaZem kadrebis gadaReba da<br />
daxuruli sivrcidan ise gamotana,<br />
rom amis Sesaxeb verc kud-ma, verc<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saministrom veraferi<br />
Seityo. arsebobs araerTi<br />
varaudi da Wori am procesSi saakaSvilis<br />
xelisuflebis Zalovani<br />
uwyebis maRalCinosnebis monawileobis<br />
Taobaze. simarTle mxolod<br />
maSin gairkveva, roca procesis<br />
monawile romelime mxare, an<br />
konkretulad vladimer bedukaZe<br />
sajarod alaparakdeba. es mcdeloba<br />
mas erTxel ukve hqonda, magram<br />
CemTvis sruliad gaugebari<br />
movlenebis gamo „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” erTma frTam am Sansze<br />
nebayoflobiT ganacxada uari.<br />
2013 wlis Semodgomaze cixis<br />
skandaluri kadrebis avtori,<br />
vladimer bedukaZe, yvelasgan daignorebuli<br />
da mitovebuli, xSirad<br />
stumrobda „qronika+”-is ofiss.<br />
marTalia, mas saxelmwifo dacva,<br />
jer kidev, icavda, magram materialurad<br />
biznesmen Tamaz elizbaraSvilis<br />
garda sxva aravin exmareboda,<br />
_ Tu aseTi daufasebeli<br />
iqneboda Cemi saqme, saerTod, ras<br />
movikali Tavi am kadrebis gamosatanad,<br />
samsaxuri mqonda, leqciebs<br />
vkiTxulobdi, ojaxs vuvlidi, ras<br />
avitexe Tavis tkivilio?! _ xSirad<br />
ambobda. erT-erTi aseTi Sexvedris<br />
dros man cixis kadrebis<br />
sruli versia maCvena, maT Soris,<br />
e. w. cocxebis kadrebi da miTxra,<br />
rom es scena dadgmulia, realurad,<br />
aranairi cocxiT gaupatiurebis<br />
scena ar yofila, yvelaferi<br />
mxolod garkveuli miznebisTvis<br />
gakeTdao. Tu vinme dainteresebuli<br />
piri iqneba, ise gamamwares amaTma<br />
(xelisuflebas gulisxmobda),<br />
„nacebis” mxridan mokavSire Tu<br />
meyoleba, mzad var, yvelaferze<br />
sajarod vilaparakoo. mTxova, vinmesTan<br />
damekavSirebina. lado bedukaZis<br />
am Txovnis mere me piradad<br />
vnaxe givi TargamaZe, diskze Cawerili<br />
cixis kadrebis sruli versia<br />
da bedukaZis Txovna gadaveci. lado<br />
bedukaZe TiTqmis Tvenaxevris<br />
ganmavlobaSi elodeboda givi<br />
TargamaZis pasuxs. periodulad<br />
mTxovda, vinmesTvis kidev Semexsenebia<br />
misi sakiTxi. ori Tvis Tavze<br />
igive kadrebis sruli versia, saer-<br />
To megobris meSveobiT, gigi ugulavas<br />
gavugzavne. iqidan dabrunda<br />
kiTxva, _ iyo Tu ara kadrebis<br />
sanacvlod saWiro Tanxa? razec<br />
mkafio pasuxi miiRo, rom aranairi<br />
Tanxa kadrebSi gadasaxdeli ar<br />
iyo.<br />
arc givi TargamaZes, arc gigi<br />
ugulavas aranairi interesi cixis<br />
kadrebTan da vladimer bedukaZis<br />
sajaro aRiarebasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
ar gamouxatavT, samagierod, umciresobis<br />
lideri daviT baqraZe<br />
ixdida bodiSebs sajarod damontaJebuli<br />
cocxebis kadrebis gamo.<br />
arc lado bedukaZis winadadeba<br />
gaxda maTTvis saintereso, magram<br />
gonivruli eWvi maqvs, rom romelime<br />
maTganma xelisuflebas xma<br />
miawvdina, radgan saswrafod moxda<br />
bedukaZis Cemgan izolireba, mas<br />
sainformacio saagento „Tbilisi<br />
24" gauxsnes, zaza daviTaias meSveobiT<br />
Cveni dapirispirebis inspirireba<br />
moaxdines da, sruliad moulodnelad,<br />
lado bedukaZis Tavdasxmis<br />
obieqti piradad me gavxdi.<br />
aqve mkafiod unda iTqvas isic,<br />
rom rodesac saubaria cixis kadrebze,<br />
karantinis daSlis garda<br />
yvela sxva kadri piradad vladimer<br />
bedukaZes ekuTvnis, xolo<br />
karantinis daSla, romelic sistemur<br />
danaSauls asaxavs, daTa akobias<br />
mieraa gadaRebuli giorgi<br />
lomias organizebiT.<br />
bolo dros ganviTarebulma<br />
movlenebma cxadyo, rom saakaSvilis<br />
qarTuli politikidan distancireba<br />
erTnairad Sedioda<br />
rogorc „qarTuli ocnebis”, aseve<br />
misive Tanagundelebis intereseb-<br />
Si da es daiwyo ara 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis mere, aramed<br />
gacilebiT adre, 2010 wels.<br />
ra roli hqonda cixis kadrebis<br />
mopovebasa da gavrcelebaSi saakaSvilis<br />
xelisuflebis Zalovani<br />
uwyebis calkeul warmomadgenlebs,<br />
maT Soris, amiran mesxels,<br />
„qronika+” aqamde ucnobi detalebiT<br />
am Temas samomavlod aucileblad<br />
daubrundeba.<br />
giga bokeria<br />
givi TargamaZe<br />
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eqskluziuri interviu<br />
didi albaTobaa imisa, rom 2017<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
weli kidev ufro daZabuli da<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
peripetiuli iyos; kidev ufro<br />
didi vnebaTaRelvebi da kidev<br />
ufro xmauriani sasamarTlo procesebi gvelis.<br />
„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs eqsk-<br />
luziurad pasuxobs uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare _<br />
nino gvenetaZe:<br />
_ qalbatono nino, maSin, ro-<br />
desac saubari imaze, rom bevri<br />
mosamarTle ar unda ikavebdes<br />
aRniSnul Tanamdebobas, apar-<br />
atSi piriqiT, maTi ricxvis<br />
zrda aris SesamCnevi. Tu Sei-<br />
Zleba, mosamarTleTa raodeno-<br />
ba da maTi ricxovnobis zrdac<br />
rom gviTxraT wina welTan Se-<br />
darebiT...<br />
_ 2016 wels mosamarTleTa<br />
ricxvis gazrdam saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
sistemaSi aparatis<br />
TanamSromelTa ricxvis mateba<br />
ganapiroba. radgan cifrebi<br />
gainteresebT, getyviT, rom, magaliTad,<br />
2015 welTan SedarebiT,<br />
roca saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
mosamarTleTa ricxvi 230<br />
iyo, 2016 wels 267-mde gaizarda,<br />
maT Soris, sistemaSi warmodgenilia<br />
51% qali da 49%<br />
mamakaci mosamarTle. amavdroulad,<br />
yvelaze gadatvirTul<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlo-<br />
Si, 79 mosamarTlis nacvlad,<br />
dRes 94 mosamarTle axorcielebs<br />
marTlmsajulebas.<br />
_ 2017 wels rogor iqneba?<br />
_ 2017 wels, saerTo sasamar-<br />
Tloebis sistemaSi, mosamarTleTa<br />
raodenoba kidev gaizrdeba<br />
da mosamarTleebisTvis gamoyofili<br />
319 Stati Seivseba. amaze<br />
iusticiis umaRlesma sabWom<br />
ukve mosamarTleobis kandidat-<br />
Ta konkursi gamoacxada.<br />
_ qalbatono nino, mosamarTleTa<br />
konferencias dav-<br />
eswari da gulwrfelad gety-<br />
viT, iq iseTi asakovani mosama-<br />
rTleebi, romlebic, albaT,<br />
SvilTaSvilebs unda zrdidnen,<br />
arc ise cotani iyvnen.<br />
_ amaze ase gipasuxebT: mosamarTleTa<br />
individualuri damoukideblobis<br />
TvalsazrisiT<br />
mniSvnelovania veneciis komisiis<br />
rekomendaciis praqtikaSi<br />
danergva _ mosamarTleTa uvado,<br />
sapensio asakis miRwevamde<br />
daniSvnis Taobaze. saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
Sesaxeb kanonSi<br />
Setanili cvlilebebiT, iusticiis<br />
umaRlesma sabWom, 2016<br />
wels pirvelad, saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
Sesaxeb organuli<br />
kanoniT gaTvaliswinebuli Sefasebis<br />
mixedviT, gamosacdeli<br />
vadiT daniSnuli 12 mosamarTle<br />
Tanamdebobaze uvadod gaamwesa.<br />
_ anu sicocxlis bolomde,<br />
ukacravad?<br />
_ sapensio asakamde. es mosamarTleebi<br />
Tbilisisa da quTaisis<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlos, quTaisis,<br />
Tbilisis, goris, cageris,<br />
siRnaRis saqalaqo da raionul<br />
sasamarTloebSi gamwesdnen.<br />
_ rogorc vici, veneciis ko-<br />
misiis daskvnaSi kritikulad<br />
aris Sefasebuli mosamarTle-<br />
Ta gamosacdeli vadiT daniSv-<br />
na. arada, es samosamarTleo<br />
gamocdilebis mqone kandidatebze<br />
saaprobacio vadis dawese-<br />
bas ewinaaRmdegeba.<br />
_ aRniSnul sakiTxze garkveuli<br />
cvlilebebi marTlmsajulebis<br />
reformis mesame talRis<br />
kanonSi dafiqsirda da SeRavaTi<br />
Seexo mxolod sakonstitucio<br />
da uzenaesi sasamarTlos yofil<br />
mosamarTleebs, romlebic<br />
qvemdgomi instanciis sasamarTloSi<br />
gamosacdeli vadis gareSe<br />
gamwesdebian. amasTan, komisia miiCnevs,<br />
rom uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
mosamarTleebi aseve uvadod<br />
unda iniSnebodnen. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, gaiTvaliswineT, rom,<br />
veneciis komisiis msgavsad, ekonomikuri<br />
TanamSromlobisa da<br />
ganviTarebis organizaciis<br />
(OECD) saqarTvelos antikorufciuli<br />
Sefasebis mesame raundis<br />
rekomendaciac uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos mosamarTleTa uvado<br />
daniSvnaze amaxvilebs yuradRebas.<br />
_ sasamarTlo reformis e. w.<br />
mesame talRaze visaubroT, ro-<br />
mlis mixedviTac mosamarTleTa<br />
damoukideblobis uzrunvel-<br />
sayofad iusticiis saministr-<br />
os mier inicirebuli sakanonm-<br />
deblo paketi saqarTvelos<br />
parlamentma 2016 wlis 29 de-<br />
kembers mesame mosmeniT miiRo.<br />
_ maSasadame, am cvlilebebis<br />
gansaxorcieleblad iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWoSi menejmentis<br />
departamenti Camoyalibdeba<br />
sasamarTloSi saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />
ganawilebis sistemis<br />
efeqtianad marTvisTvis da danergvisTvis.<br />
2017 wlis pirveli<br />
ivlisidan saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />
ganawileba sapilote reJim-<br />
Si rusTavis saqalaqo sasamarT-<br />
`raionuli saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTloebis mier 2016 wels<br />
satelefono saubris farul<br />
miyuradebasa da Caweris Taobaze<br />
ganxilulia 397 Suamdgomloba,<br />
romelTagan dakmayofilda 340. es<br />
ki gaxlavT saerTo saqmeebis 85,6%.<br />
2015 wels ganxiluli iyo 373<br />
Suamdgomloba, romelTagan 306<br />
dakmayofilda, anu 82%. aqve<br />
saerTo statistikasac getyviT:<br />
pirveli instanciis sasamarTloebSi<br />
Semosuli samoqalaqo saqmeebis<br />
raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />
gaizarda 34%-iT da Seadgina 69624<br />
saqme, rac ukanaskneli wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi yvelaze maRali<br />
maCvenebelia. ganxiluli saqmeebis<br />
raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />
gaizarda 26%-iT~<br />
loSi amoqmeddeba, xolo 2017<br />
wlis 31 dekembridan srulad<br />
dainergeba saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
sistemaSi.<br />
_ anu saqmeebis eleqtronul<br />
reJimSi gadayvanas gulisx-<br />
mobT? aqamde ar iyo?<br />
_ manamde, iusticiis ministrma,<br />
uzenaes sasamarTlosTan da<br />
iusticiis umaRles sabWosTan<br />
erTad, 2016 wlis 28 ivniss, samuSao<br />
jgufi Camoayaliba da Seswavla<br />
daviwyeT sistemis rogorc<br />
teqnikuri gamarTulobis,<br />
aseve samarTlebrivi regulirebis<br />
SemuSavebis mizniT. samuSao<br />
jgufis farglebSi iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi sabWos aparatma eleqtronuli<br />
ganawilebis wesi daamuSava.<br />
iusticiis umaRlesi sabWo,<br />
iseve rogorc saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
departamenti, periodulad<br />
ecnoba mezobeli qveynebis<br />
gamocdilebas saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />
ganawilebis wesis<br />
Taobaze.<br />
_ magaliTad, romeli qvey-<br />
nebis?<br />
_ magaliTad, vTanamSromlobT<br />
latviis saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
administraciasTan.<br />
latvielma kolegebma saqmeTa<br />
ganawilebis sistema gagvacnes,<br />
romelic latviaSi 2009 wlidan<br />
funqcionirebs. damatebiT, rus-<br />
Tavis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi<br />
sapilote programis SemuSavebisTvis<br />
germaniis saerTaSoriso<br />
TanamSromlobis fondis (IRZ)<br />
mxardaWeriT, 27-28 ianvars,<br />
saqarTvelos ewveva germaneli<br />
kolega, batoni vaishaupti. batoni<br />
vaishaupti ukve imyofeboda<br />
saqmeTa ganawilebis eleqtronuli<br />
programis SemuSavebis<br />
sakiTxebze 2015 wels saqarTveloSi<br />
da kargad icnobs sasamarTlo<br />
sistemas.<br />
_ qalbatono nino, mTliani<br />
sistemis eleqtronul versia-<br />
Si gadayvana da cifruli mod-<br />
ificireba Tanxebs moiTxovs da<br />
sakmaod dids. saidan elodeb-<br />
iT dafinansebas? saqarTvelos<br />
biujeti ukve gawerilia?<br />
_ serverebisa da qseluri infrastruqturis<br />
Sesacvlelad<br />
Tanxebis mobilizeba moxerxda<br />
saerTo sasamarTloebis departamentis<br />
biujetidan. 2015 wels<br />
saqarTvelos prezidentma sarezervo<br />
fondidan 580 000 lari<br />
gamouyo sasamarTlos serveris<br />
ganTavsebisTvis da saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos teritoriaze Senoba-nagebobis<br />
mosawyobad. germaniis<br />
saerTaSoriso TanamSromlobis<br />
sazogadoebam saservero<br />
infrastruqturis SesaZenad 100<br />
000 evros grantis finansuri mxardaWera<br />
uzrunvelyo. 2016<br />
wlis dekemberSi saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
departamentis mier<br />
Catarebuli tenderis safuZvelze<br />
axali qseluri infrastruqturis<br />
Sesyidva ganxorcielda,<br />
xolo amJamad serveris<br />
SesaZenad satendero winadadeba<br />
saerTo sasamarTloebis departamentma<br />
gamoacxada.<br />
_ reformis mesame talRis<br />
farglebSi ra sakanonmdeblo<br />
winadadebebi iqna wardgenili.<br />
rogorc gavige, axali samsaxuri,<br />
e. w. damoukidebeli inspeq-<br />
toris samsaxuri iqmneba.<br />
_ disciplinuri samarTalwarmoebis<br />
miukerZoebeli da<br />
srulyofili gamokvlevisa da<br />
winaswari Semowmebis Catarebis<br />
mizniT saqarTvelos iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWoSi damoukidebeli<br />
inspeqtoris samsaxuris<br />
formireba moxdeba, romelsac<br />
damoukidebeli inspeqtori uxelmZRvanelebs.<br />
_ Tu SeiZleba, dagvikonkre-<br />
teT, ras gaakeTebs?<br />
_ damoukidebeli inspeqtori<br />
procesis monawile mxareTa pretenziebsa<br />
da saCivrebs Seiswavlis<br />
da Tavisi daskvniT wardgeba<br />
iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos<br />
winaSe, xolo gadawyvetilebas<br />
mosamarTlis mimarT disciplinuri<br />
devnis dawyebis Taobaze<br />
iusticiis umaRlesi sabWo miiRebs.<br />
_ gasagebia, anu damoukidebeli<br />
inspeqtori Tavad mosa-<br />
marTleebs gaakontrolebs?<br />
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nino gvenetaZesTan<br />
_ reformis mesame talRis<br />
farglebSi siaxlea sakasacio<br />
sasamarTloSi saCivris dasaSvebobis<br />
safuZvlebis gafarToebaze.<br />
im SemTxvevaSi, Tu sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba adamianis<br />
uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
precedentuli gadawyvetilebidan<br />
gansxvavebul ganmartebas<br />
SemogvTavazebs, uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlo uars ver<br />
ityvis saCivris dasaSvebobaze.<br />
_ es ukve kargia! Tu ganxor-<br />
cielda, ra Tqma unda, vinaidan<br />
manamde sistematurad xdeboda<br />
amis ugulebelyofa.<br />
_ Tqven weRan mosamarTleebze<br />
mkiTxeT: veneciis komisiis<br />
rekomendaciebis Sesabamisad mosamarTleTa<br />
SerCevis procedurebi<br />
daixvewa. kanonis mixedviT<br />
mniSvnelovan siaxles warmoadgens<br />
mosamarTleTa kandidatis<br />
ufleba, gaasaCivros iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi sabWos gadawyvetileba<br />
_ uari mosamarTled<br />
gamwesebis Taobaze.<br />
_ sad saCivrdeba?<br />
_ uzenaesi sasamarTlos sakvalifikacio<br />
palataSi. sasamarTlos<br />
arsebiT sxdomaze mi-<br />
Rebuli gadawyvetilebebi gamoqveyndeba<br />
vebgverdze kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dadgenili wesiT.<br />
_ qalbatono nino, mosaxle-<br />
obas mosamarTleTa SesarCevi<br />
konkursis Riad da gamWvirval-<br />
ed Catarebas SehpirdiT. ras<br />
gulisxmobT?<br />
_ es gulisxmobs sabWos vebgverdze<br />
mosamarTleobis kandidatTa<br />
biografiuli monacemebis<br />
winaswar ganTavsebas. dainteresebul<br />
donor da arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebs SesaZlebloba<br />
hqondaT, Tvali edevnebinaT<br />
procesisTvis da sruli informacia<br />
mieRoT wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
Catarebuli 2 konkursis<br />
Taobaze. saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
sistemaSi 104 mosamarTle<br />
gamwesda, maT Soris, 20 iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi skolis yofili msmeneli.<br />
axalgamwesebul mosamarTleebs<br />
Soris 46 yofili mosamarTlea.<br />
arc imas davmalav,<br />
rom 2016 wlis monacemebiT 13<br />
saqmeze mosamarTles axsna-ganmarteba<br />
CamoerTva, 3 saqmeze mosamarTleebs<br />
miemarTaT kerZo<br />
sarekomendacio baraTiT da 1<br />
saqmeze mosamarTles disciplinuri<br />
saxdelis saxed ganesazRvra<br />
gafrTxileba.<br />
_ farul Canawerebsa da<br />
ukanono mosmenebze minda gkiT-<br />
xoT, romlis winaaRmdegac<br />
„qronika+” Tavidanve ibrZoda.<br />
ra gaakeTa sasamarTlom amasT-<br />
an dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ raionuli saqalaqo sasamarTloebis<br />
mier 2016 wels<br />
satelefono saubris farul<br />
miyuradebasa da Caweris Taobaze<br />
ganxilulia 397 Suamdgomloba,<br />
romelTagan dakmayofilda<br />
340. es ki gaxlavT saerTo saqmeebis<br />
85,6%. 2015 wels ganxiluli<br />
iyo 373 Suamdgomloba, romelTagan<br />
306 dakmayofilda, anu<br />
82%. aqve saerTo statistikasac<br />
getyviT: pirveli instanciis<br />
sasamarTloebSi Semosuli samoqalaqo<br />
saqmeebis raodenoba<br />
2015 welTan SedarebiT gaizarda<br />
34%-iT da Seadgina 69624<br />
saqme, rac ukanaskneli wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi yvelaze maRali<br />
maCvenebelia. ganxiluli saqmeebis<br />
raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />
gaizarda 26%-iT.<br />
_ arada, miuxedavad ganxi-<br />
luli saqmeebis raodenobis<br />
zrdisa, bolos ganuxilvelad<br />
darCenili saqmeebis xvedriTi<br />
wili, 2015 wlis 29%-dan gai-<br />
zarda 2016 wlis 37%-mde.<br />
_ geTanxmebiT, amitom iusticiis<br />
umaRlesma sabWom mar-<br />
Tlmsajulebis xarisxis gasaumjobeseblad<br />
mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebebi<br />
miiRo samoqalaqo<br />
kategoriis davebis swrafad<br />
da efeqtianad ganxilvis mizniT.<br />
kerZod, yvelaze metad datvir-<br />
Tul Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi,<br />
mikrosafinanso organizaciebis,<br />
sabanko dawesebulebebisa<br />
da arasabanko sadepozito<br />
dawesebulebis mier dadebuli<br />
sesxis xelSekrulebidan nawarmoebi<br />
davebi calke qvekategoriebad<br />
gamoiyo valdebulebiTi<br />
samarTlis kategoriis<br />
davebSi. Sesabamisad, ganisazRvra<br />
mosamarTleTa optimaluri<br />
raodenoba, romelTac am kategoriis<br />
davebis ganxilva daevalaT,<br />
rac samoqalaqo saqmeTa<br />
kolegiaSi arsebuli davebis<br />
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56%-s warmoadgens. mikrosafinanso<br />
organizaciebis, sabanko<br />
dawesebulebebisa da arasabanko<br />
sadepozito dawesebulebis<br />
ganmxilveli mosamarTleebis viwro<br />
specializacia uzrunvelyofs<br />
samoqalaqo saqmeTa kanoniT<br />
dadgenil vadaSi ganxilvas da,<br />
zogadad, xels Seuwyobs gaWianurebuli<br />
samoqalaqo samarTalwarmoebis<br />
problemis Semcirebas.<br />
pirveli instanciis sasamarTloebSi<br />
Semosuli sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmeebis raodenoba,<br />
gasul welTan SedarebiT, Semcirda<br />
6%-iT, xolo ganxiluli<br />
saqmeebis raodenoba gaizarda<br />
7%-iT. ganxiluli saqmeebis raodenobis<br />
zrdasTan erTad, periodis<br />
bolos ganuxilvelad dar-<br />
Cenili saqmeebis xvedriTi wili<br />
2015 wlis 22%-dan Semcirda 2016<br />
wlis 17%-mde. Semosuli da ganxiluli<br />
sisxlis samarTlis saqmeebis<br />
zrda da, Sesabamisad, ganuxilvelad<br />
darCenili saqmeebis<br />
xvedriTi wilis klebis tendencia<br />
aRiniSneba saapelacio da<br />
sakasacio instanciebSic.<br />
_ „sisxlSi” rogor aris<br />
saqme?<br />
_ SedarebiT magaliTs mogiyvaT:<br />
Tu 2011 wels sul Sefardebul<br />
aRkveTis RonisZiebebSi patimrobis<br />
xvedriTi wili 49%-s<br />
Seadgenda, xolo arasapatimro<br />
RonisZiebebis _ 51%-s, 2016<br />
wels patimrobis xvedriTi wili<br />
29%-mde Semcirda, xolo arasapatimro<br />
RonisZiebebis _ 71%-<br />
mde dafiqsirda (2015 wels, Sesabamisad,<br />
30% da 70%). sagamo-<br />
Ziebo organoebis mier patimro-<br />
bis moTxovniT Semotanili Suamdgomlobebis<br />
dakmayofilebis<br />
procentuli maCvenebeli Semcirebulia<br />
2011 welTan SedarebiT,<br />
rac 94%-s Seadgenda, xolo<br />
2015-2016 wlebSi yvelaze dabal<br />
niSnuls miaRwia da 61% Seadgina.<br />
Tu 2011 wels sasamarTlom<br />
ar daakmayofila patimrobis Sefardebaze<br />
Semosuli prokuraturis<br />
Suamdgomlobebis 0,1%,<br />
2015 da 2016 wlebSi ar dakmayofilda<br />
35%, rac, aseve, bolo<br />
wlebis yvelaze maRali maCvenebelia.<br />
aseve, mimdinare wels<br />
`Tavis droze, me amaze xmamaRla ganvacxade da axlac gavimeoreb: am<br />
sakiTxebSi Carevis kompetencia ar gamaCnia. amdenad, gamoZiebis sruli<br />
prerogativaa, gaarkvios yvelaferi da Tu is saWirod miiCnevs, amcnos<br />
sazogadoebas amis Sesaxeb. sasamarTlo procesi iyo Ria da gamWvirvale.<br />
bunebrivia, es gaxldaT sazogadoebis mxridan maqsimalurad maRali<br />
interesis sferoSi da arsebobda garkveuli arasasurveli precedentebi. es<br />
aris procesis monawileTa mxridan, xSirad, zedmeti aqtiuroba, Tumca maT<br />
Tavisi uflebamosileba aqvT, rac procesis normalur funqcionirebas<br />
uSlida xels~<br />
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Si Seamcira giraos Tanxis nawili,<br />
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2016 wels ZiriTadi sasjelis<br />
saxiT Sefardebuli jarimis<br />
xvedriTma wilma Seadgina 23%,<br />
nacvlad 2015 wlis 20%-sa, xolo<br />
sazogadoebisTvis sasargeblo<br />
Sromis xvedriTma wilma _<br />
9,3%, nacvlad 2015 wlis 5%-sa.<br />
da, aseve, ar SemiZlia ar vTqva<br />
Tavisuflebis aRkveTis Semcirebis<br />
vadebze: Tu 2011 wels 8<br />
wlis zemoT Tavisuflebis aRkveTa<br />
Seefarda msjavrdadebulTa<br />
12%-s, anu 886 pirs, 2016 wels<br />
Seefarda mxolod 7%-s, anu 269<br />
msjavrdadebul pirs.<br />
_ sazogadoebas yvelaze metad<br />
gamamarTlebeli ganaCene-<br />
bi ainteresebs. am mxriv rogor<br />
aris saqme?<br />
_ 2016 wels pirveli instanciis<br />
sasamarTloebis mier gamamarTlebeli<br />
ganaCeni gamotanilia<br />
227 piris mimarT, rac 3-<br />
jer aRemateba 2011 wlis maCve-<br />
nebels (56 piri) da 2,2%-iT metia<br />
2015 wlis maCvenebelze. 2016<br />
wels uzenaes sasamarTloSi gamamarTlebeli<br />
ganaCeni 5 piris<br />
mimarT dadga. miuxedavad gamovlenil<br />
samarTaldarRvevaTa<br />
raodenobis zrdisa, 2011 wlidan<br />
moyolebuli, yovelwliurad<br />
mcirdeboda im pirTa xvedriTi<br />
wili, visac administraciuli<br />
samarTaldarRvevis saqmeebze<br />
dakisrebuli hqonda pasuxismgebloba.<br />
2016 wels dafiqsirda<br />
yvelaze dabali maCvenebeli _<br />
60%, nacvlad 2015 wlis 72%-sa.<br />
dakisrebul saxdelebSi administraciuli<br />
patimrobis gamoyeneba<br />
Semcirda 16 procentuli<br />
punqtiT. da kidev, aucileblad<br />
unda aRiniSnos is garemoeba,<br />
rom Semcirebulia saxelmwifos<br />
sasargeblod gadawyvetili saqmeebis<br />
xvedriTi wili: Tu 2011<br />
wels saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />
mier davebis 66% wydeboda administraciuli<br />
organos sasargeblod,<br />
2016 wels aRniSnulma<br />
maCvenebelma mxolod 40% Seadgina,<br />
xolo 2015 wels _ 43%.<br />
_ arasrulwlovnebze ras<br />
gvetyviT?<br />
_ msjavrdadebulTa saerTo<br />
raodenobaSi arasrulwlovanTa<br />
xvedriTi wili 2011 wlis 4%-dan<br />
Semcirda 2016 wlis 0,9%-mde<br />
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mier msjavrdadebuli<br />
arasrulwlovnebis mimarT<br />
gamoyenebuli sasjelebi: Tu Tavisuflebis<br />
aRkveTa 2015 wels 87<br />
arasrulwlovnis mimarT iyo<br />
gamoyenebuli, 2016 wels _ mxolod<br />
43 bavSvis mimarT gamoiyena<br />
sasamarTlom Tavisuflebis<br />
aRkveTa, gansakuTrebiT mZime kategoriis<br />
danaSaulis SemTxveva-<br />
Si. sasamarTloSi gansakuTrebuli<br />
yuradReba eqceva, aseve,<br />
arasrulwlovanTa ganridebis sakiTxsac:<br />
2016 wels ganridebis<br />
gamosayeneblad 14-dan 21 wlamde<br />
asakis 105 arasrulwlovnis saqme<br />
dabrunda prokuraturaSi (maT<br />
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_ qalbatono nino, „rusTavi<br />
2"-Tan dakavSirebul procese-<br />
bze ras ityviT?<br />
_ Tavis droze, me amaze xmama-<br />
Rla ganvacxade da axlac gavimeoreb:<br />
am sakiTxebSi Carevis kompetencia<br />
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gamoZiebis sruli prerogativaa,<br />
gaarkvios yvelaferi da Tu is<br />
saWirod miiCnevs, amcnos sazogadoebas<br />
amis Sesaxeb. sasamarTlo<br />
procesi iyo Ria da gamWvirvale.<br />
bunebrivia, es gaxldaT sazogadoebis<br />
mxridan maqsimalurad ma-<br />
Rali interesis sferoSi da arsebobda<br />
garkveuli arasasurveli<br />
precedentebi. es aris procesis<br />
monawileTa mxridan, xSirad,<br />
zedmeti aqtiuroba, Tumca<br />
maT Tavisi uflebamosileba<br />
aqvT, rac procesis normalur<br />
funqcionirebas uSlida xels<br />
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maka mosiaSvili<br />
goga rexviaSvils uSiSroeba-<br />
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Ta palata:<br />
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Tavis megobrebTan erTad<br />
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kafe „barokoSi”. kafeSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
22 saaTze mivida Telavis<br />
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wavida Telavis raionis sof. ...<br />
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aRiara da sasjeli moixada, Tumca<br />
rexviaSvilis mkvlelobis<br />
iqiT kvlav darCa kiTxvebi.<br />
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sammarTvelos ufrosobis xana-<br />
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iyo rexviaSvili, meore ki vano<br />
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saeWvo garemoebebs<br />
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simptomebi hqonda. mTavari argumenti<br />
ki erTia _ yvela gardacvlili<br />
dainteresebuli iyo<br />
griSikaSvilebis mkvlelobis<br />
gamoZiebiT.<br />
aseve absurduli braldebiT<br />
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ojaxis axloblad da biznespartniorad<br />
saxeldeba. mTavari<br />
kiTxva, rac sazogadoebas awuxebs,<br />
kvlav ucvlelia. cnobilia,<br />
rom goga rexviaSvili gardacvalebamde<br />
gaafrTxiles,<br />
SeSveboda griSikaSvilis saqmis<br />
gamoZiebas, razedac misgan mkvaxe<br />
uari miiRes. aseve cnobilia,<br />
rom griSikaSvilis mkvlelobis<br />
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mkvlelis qurTukis saxiT,<br />
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pasuxismgebeli piri<br />
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uSlida xels Zalovan struqturebs,<br />
rom es saqme gamoeZiebinaT?!<br />
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erTi mniSvnelovani faqti:<br />
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kaxeTis Ss sammarTvelos ufrosad<br />
dainiSna, eldar griSikaSvili<br />
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biznesmenma ki SeuTvala, _<br />
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amis Semdeg maTi gadakveTis wertilebi<br />
Seicvala. „qeqia” (eldar<br />
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aRsadgenad da sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris mis mimarT pozitiurad<br />
dasabruneblad sosos axali<br />
gegma aqvs.<br />
male mis intervius vixilavT.<br />
rogor?<br />
amas Cveni saerTo megobris-<br />
gan moismenT:<br />
_ gadawyvita, mis dasacavad<br />
da gasapiareblad ramdenime mediaportali<br />
Seiqmnas. „aitiSnikebs”<br />
ukve dawyebuli aqvT 4<br />
sxvadasxva gverdis Seqmna.<br />
_ maTi saxelebi cnobilia?<br />
_ ara, magram Tebervlidan<br />
vici, rom axali mediaportalis<br />
saxiT isini bazarze Semovlen<br />
da gogaSvilis dasacavad<br />
da misi e. w. mtrebis dasaZirad<br />
muSaobas daiwyeben. gamoqveyndeba<br />
soso gogaSvilTan interviuebi,<br />
misi ojaxis wevrebze<br />
raRac siuJetebi. sazogadoeba<br />
mas gaicnobs, rogorc ojaxis<br />
mamas, meuRles da ra vici, kidev<br />
ras mohyveba...<br />
_ es visi gegmaa?<br />
_ ase zustad ar vici, Tumca<br />
vici, rom ramdenime e. w. JurnalistTan<br />
erTad gaiara es sakiTxi.<br />
am mediasaagentoebs swored<br />
am Jurnalistebs gadaunawilebs.<br />
_ vin unda daafinanson es<br />
mediaorganizaciebi?<br />
_ Tavad sosom, aba, sxva<br />
rogor daafinansebs?! an romelime<br />
bizness daafinansebinebs,<br />
es misTvis rTuli ar aris.<br />
_ magram is ver gadafaravs<br />
Tavis gzas 2012-dan dRemde,<br />
warsuls xom ver waSlis?<br />
_ mTavaria, sosos mimarT<br />
arsebuli e. w. interesi, rac<br />
sazogadoebas aqvs, gogaSvilma<br />
ise daakmayofilos, rom Tavad<br />
darCes mogebuli. magaliTad,<br />
vebgverdebze iqneba ojaxuri<br />
fotoebi, es fotosesia ukve<br />
Catarda. arenaze gamoCndeba.<br />
savaraudod, sofelSic unda<br />
hqondes igive dagegmili.<br />
_ gasagebia, rom gogaSvils<br />
raRacis Secvla unda da axla<br />
gadawyvita, pozitivis Semota-<br />
nis gzebi daZebnos, Tumca...<br />
_ ara marto pozitivis, erTerT<br />
vebgverdze fotoSarJebi<br />
iqneba, sadac SeiZleba, nebismieri<br />
adamiani aRmoCndes, anu cinikuri<br />
pasaJebi sWirdeba. amavdroulad,<br />
gaakeTeben e. w. Jurnalistur<br />
gamoZiebas da a. S,<br />
rac soso gogaSvilis winaaRmdeg<br />
gamoqveyndeba, sosos pasuxs<br />
im vebgverdidan miiRebT.<br />
_ e. i. gogaSvili „soso-<br />
niuss” akeTebs?<br />
_ albaT, saxalisod ki Tqvi<br />
saTauri, magram CaTvale, rom<br />
„sosoniusi” socialur qselSi<br />
male gamoCndeba.<br />
_ ramdenime dRis win gavige,<br />
_ erT-erTi e. w. eqsJurnalis-<br />
ti werda, rom telemediaSi<br />
brundeboda da mgonia, rom,<br />
raRacnairad, es faqtebi erT-<br />
maneTs emTxveva. magram Tu gogaSvili<br />
samsaxurs da Zalau-<br />
flebas dakargavs, saintere-<br />
soa, ratom unda dasWirdes mas<br />
ukve mediis mxardaWera?!<br />
_ Zalauflebis garda adamianebs<br />
yvelaze metad Tavisuflebis<br />
dakargvisac eSiniaT, rac<br />
imas niSnavs, rom Tavisuflad<br />
N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />
SeiZleba, sosos mimarT sisxlis<br />
samarTlis pasuxismgeblobac<br />
dadges rig sakiTxebze. amiT ivaniSvili<br />
adamianebs daanaxvebs,<br />
rom, ai, man gogaSvili iseve mokveTa,<br />
rogorc, Tavis droze,<br />
RaribaSvili, radgan gogaSvili<br />
RaribaSvilze metad jiutia. is<br />
ar emorCileba im viTarebas,<br />
rom unda wavides da vinc nebiT<br />
ar midis, ZaliT gahyavT.<br />
dRes sosos uWirs imis gacnobiereba,<br />
rom is seriozuli<br />
safrTxis winaSe dgas. mas, mxolod<br />
da mxolod, Tavisi savarZeli<br />
adardebs. am dros,<br />
sxva, metad mniSvnelovani _ misi<br />
Tavisufleba _ ufro da ufro<br />
did safrTxes Seicavs.<br />
_ Tu gogaSvilis „sosoniu-<br />
si” male daiwyebs muSaobas da<br />
dRes Cven es ki ukve viciT, misi<br />
ojaxuri suraTebi, statiebi,<br />
interviuebi gamoqveynde-<br />
ba da sajaro gaxdeba, soso<br />
ufro sajaro personas daemsgavseba,<br />
amiT sosos mimarT ufro<br />
da ufro meti interesi ga-<br />
Cndeba. fiqrob, rom es mis 2017<br />
wlamde arsebul kiTxvebs ki ar<br />
gadafaravs, ufro gaaaqti-<br />
urebs?<br />
_ ar vici, ra Sedegebs elian.<br />
rac xdeba isaa, rom 2 „aitiSniki”<br />
zis da vebgverdebis awyobaze<br />
muSaobs, ramdenime JurnalistTan<br />
ukve iyo konsultacia<br />
da aman sruliad unda Secvalos<br />
amindi. es aris mTavari<br />
mizani. gamova Tu ar gamova,<br />
amas momavali aCvenebs.<br />
ase rom, „sosonews”-i male<br />
Cven winaSe wardgeba. realurad,<br />
misi saxeli jer ucnobia,<br />
magram misi gamoCeniT, rogorc<br />
Cans, amocanis amoxsna ar gagvi-<br />
Wirdeba, uceb vipoviT sosos<br />
da mis gacemul interviuebs.<br />
P. S. mediamagnatobaRa gak-<br />
lda, soso da ahaa, velodebiT<br />
Sens „sosoniuss”.<br />
`-ramdenime dRis win gavige, - erT-erTi e. w. eqsJurnalisti<br />
werda, rom telemediaSi brundeboda da mgonia, rom,<br />
raRacnairad, es faqtebi erTmaneTs emTxveva. magram Tu<br />
gogaSvili samsaxurs da Zalauflebas dakargavs,<br />
sainteresoa, ratom unda dasWirdes mas ukve mediis<br />
mxardaWera?!<br />
- Zalauflebis garda adamianebs yvelaze metad<br />
Tavisuflebis dakargvisac eSiniaT, rac imas niSnavs, rom<br />
Tavisuflad SeiZleba, sosos mimarT sisxlis samarTlis<br />
pasuxismgeblobac dadges rig sakiTxebze. amiT ivaniSvili<br />
adamianebs daanaxvebs, rom, ai, man gogaSvili iseve mokveTa,<br />
rogorc, Tavis droze, RaribaSvili, radgan gogaSvili<br />
RaribaSvilze metad jiutia. is ar emorCileba im viTarebas,<br />
rom unda wavides da vinc nebiT ar midis, ZaliT gahyavT.<br />
dRes sosos uWirs imis gacnobiereba, rom is seriozuli<br />
safrTxis winaSe dgas. mas, mxolod da mxolod, Tavisi<br />
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misi Tavisufleba - ufro da ufro did safrTxes Seicavs~<br />
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dRemde emCneva. amave dros<br />
mokles daraji, romelic kurortze<br />
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policiaSi saqme ar aRZrula(!!!).<br />
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iniciativiT, memorandumi Sedga,<br />
romlis mixedviTac, socialurad<br />
daucvel pirebs kurorti sareabilitacio<br />
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gadawyvetileba Zalian did kiTxvis<br />
niSnebs aCens, radgan aranairi<br />
iuridiuli wesebi ar aris daculi,<br />
miT umetes, Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />
rom kurorti kulturuli<br />
memkvidreobis statusis matarebelia.<br />
valebiT savse kompania<br />
„meidan jgufi”, kurortis SeZenis<br />
sanacvlod, qveynis biujetSi 2<br />
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vin arian „meidan jgufis”<br />
damfuZneblebi? gvaqvs Tu ara<br />
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ratom mihyida xelisuflebam balneologiuri<br />
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organizacia „saqarTvelos karitasis”<br />
iuristi. es organizacia daafuZna<br />
vatikanis saxelmwifom da<br />
mTel msoflioSi saqvelmoqmedo<br />
socialur proeqtebs axorcielebs.<br />
swored „karitasis” daxmarebiT<br />
italiaSi arsebulma sakmaod<br />
Zlierma fondma daafinansa cerebruli<br />
dambliT daavadebuli bavSvebis<br />
reabilitaciis proeqti. am<br />
mizniT balneologiuri kurortis<br />
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balneologiuri kurorti<br />
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aris bunebrivi resursi, talaxi da<br />
mkurnalobis met Sedegs iZleva. am<br />
proeqtis mizani iyo, rom im cerebruli<br />
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saqmes keTilsindisierad akeTebs<br />
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eka sisaurma, upasuxa, rom mizanSewonilad<br />
ar miaCniaT, radgan balneologiuri<br />
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nusxaSi iyo Setanili.<br />
_ im dros, rodesac ucxouri<br />
donorebis meSveobiT xdeboda<br />
dafinanseba, ratom gadawyda<br />
kurortis gayidva, Tqven ra in-<br />
formacia gaqvT?<br />
_ 2013 wlidan mimdinareobs<br />
brZola balneologiuri kurortis<br />
Sesyidvaze. gavrcelda informacia,<br />
rom SesyidviT „meidan jgufi”<br />
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mihyavdaT. dRes balneologiuri<br />
kurorti Sefasebulia 1999 wlis<br />
mdgomareobiT. amis mere saxelmwifo<br />
valdebuli iyo, fasSi cvlileba<br />
Seetana, rac niSnavs: qoneba<br />
unda gadafasdes da Tuki mas<br />
gasayidad amzadeb, fasi unda gazardo,<br />
Seafaso Tavisi remontiT,<br />
aRWurvilobiT da yvelafriT. kapitali<br />
ar Seicvala da aseTi saxiT<br />
daiwyes zrunva gayidvaze.<br />
_ Tqveni azriT, ra Tanxad unda<br />
Sefasebuliyo?<br />
_ dRevandeli mdgomareobiT,<br />
daaxloebiT, 50 milionamde mainc<br />
Sefasdeboda, 1999 wlis monacemebiT<br />
ki, daaxloebiT, 2 milionamdea<br />
Sefasebuli. ramdenjerme miswera<br />
nikoloz saakaSvilma, rom kapitali<br />
Seicvala da monacemebis gazrdas<br />
iTxovda, magram aranairi reagireba<br />
ar xdeboda. ar vicodiT,<br />
rom laparaki iyo pirdapir miyidvaze,<br />
amitom auqcions Tvals vadevnebdiT,<br />
ra fasad daideboda.<br />
auqcionze ar dadebula, kapitali<br />
8 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.
ar Secvlila, am mxriv, araferi gakeTebula,<br />
erTaderTi, Senobanagebobis<br />
farTi dafiqsirda. samxaraulis<br />
saxelobis biuros eqspertizis<br />
daskvna samarTlebrivad<br />
unda Catarebuliyo da mas unda<br />
Seefasebina, rom auqcionze gasuliyo,<br />
an pirdapir miyidvaze yofiliyo<br />
saubari. es ar momxdara,<br />
mxolod dokumentebi gamoiTxoves<br />
da Senoba-nagebobebis farTebi<br />
daazustes, radgan manamde iyo dangreuli<br />
da mogaxseneT, rogorc<br />
aRdga. es kulturuli memkvidreobis<br />
Zeglia da pirdapir saxelmwifos<br />
valdebulebaa, rom izurnos<br />
da amisTvis finansebic gamoyofilia<br />
xolme biujetSi. 2010 wels<br />
miwis nakveTi (Tu ar vcdebi, 7000<br />
kv.m.), romelic gamouyenebeli iyo<br />
da Senobis ukan mdebareobda,<br />
ekonomikis saministrom kapitalidan<br />
amoiRo da gankarguleba<br />
gamosca, rom igi auqcionis wesiT<br />
gayiduliyo, aqedan miRebuli<br />
Tanxa ki balneologiuri kurortis<br />
reabilitacias srulad moxmareboda,<br />
romelic dRemde ar<br />
ganxorcielebula. mere wavida politikuri<br />
cvlilebebi da amis auqcionze<br />
gasatanad aravis ecala.<br />
aravis ecala, Tundac, fasadis SesaRebad,<br />
SigniT yvelaferi mzadaa<br />
da funqcionierebs kidec, magram<br />
garedan iseT STabeWdilebas tovebs,<br />
rom migdebuli obieqti gegoneba.<br />
amaze, ra Tqma unda, saxelmwifo<br />
yovelTvis uars ambobda,<br />
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Zegli da maTi nebarTvis<br />
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Tanaxmani arian, magram ratom<br />
ar dadga kenWissayrel nusxaSi<br />
es sakiTxi Tundac 19 nomebers,<br />
rodesac parlamentma muSaoba<br />
daiwyo da momdevno dReebSi,<br />
rodesac sesiebi gvqonda, ratom<br />
ar daayena aravin es sakiTxi<br />
im kenWissayrel nusxaSi?! reglamentiT<br />
asea gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
- Tu, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
mosmeniT aris miRebuli raRac<br />
sakiTxi da, magaliTad, Zvel parlaments<br />
aqvs, rom erTi mosmena<br />
gaiara sakiTxma, kenWissayrel<br />
nusxaSi ar aris Seyvanili.<br />
Tu axali parlamenti modis, mas<br />
SeuZlia, rom is sakiTxi saer-<br />
Tod gaauqmos, amis ufleba aqvs<br />
axal parlaments, magram Tu<br />
kenWissayrel nusxaSi ido da is<br />
sakiTxi iyo Seyvanili, ar aqvs<br />
ufleba, rom parlamentma is<br />
sakiTxi gverdiT gadados, aucileblad<br />
unda ganixilos, rom<br />
vuyriT kenWs, ar miviReT da<br />
raRac konsensusamde ver mivediT.<br />
maSin es sakiTxi isev gadadis<br />
sakonstitucio komisiaSi,<br />
midis ganxilva, axali garemoebebi<br />
daemateba da isev unda daubrundes<br />
parlaments, magram<br />
xom SeiZleba, pirvelive mosmeniT<br />
miviRoT es kanonproeqti?!<br />
aqedan gamomdinare vambobT,<br />
rom Tu yvela Tanaxmaa,<br />
Tu yvelas awyobs, maSin davayenoT<br />
es sakiTxi, erTxel da samudamod<br />
vuyaroT kenWi da es ambavi<br />
davamTavroT! Cveni iniciativiT<br />
axla unda Sevides es kanonproeqti,<br />
Zvelia, magram Cven<br />
10<br />
10 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.
unda ganvaaxloT da SevitanoT.<br />
vnaxoT, ra iqneba...<br />
- Tqveni prognozi rogoria,<br />
gaqvT imedi, rom xelisufleba<br />
daTmobaze wamova?<br />
- xandaxan miWirs raRac logikuri<br />
daskvnis dadeba, radgan<br />
logikasTan ar gvaqvs xolme<br />
saqme. saRad moazrovne xelisufleba,<br />
ra Tqma unda, mxars dau-<br />
Wers am sakiTxs da gaauqmebs<br />
maJoritarul sistemas. Zalian<br />
bevri problemaa dRes saqarTveloSi,<br />
ukve Sewuxebulia xalxi<br />
da patara naperwkalic ki sakmarisi<br />
iqneba imisTvis, rom ra-<br />
Rac axali bunti wamoiwyos qveyanaSi.<br />
RmerTma dagvifaros isev<br />
sisxliani aqciebisgan da a.S.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, yovelTvis<br />
sjobs, xelisuflebam iseTi<br />
nabiji gadadgas, romelic xalxs<br />
daawynarebs da Tu xelisufleba<br />
saRad azrovnebs, bunebrivia,<br />
rom am nabijs gadadgams.<br />
xandaxan mixeil saakaSvilic<br />
ar uSvebda aseT Secdomebs<br />
da xalxis azrs iTvaliswinebda,<br />
rodesac dainaxavda, rom aRelveba<br />
marTla seriozul piks<br />
aRwevda. isic cdilobda, rom<br />
raRac kompromisze wasuliyo.<br />
gaxsovT, prezidentobis erTi<br />
weli rom moiklo, gadadga da<br />
Semdeg kidev erTi arCevnebi CavatareT.<br />
saakaSvilsac ki eSinoda<br />
aRelvebuli xalxis poziciis.<br />
rac Seexeba am xelisuflebas,<br />
Zalian bevri ulogiko<br />
ram aqvT gakeTebuli.<br />
- magaliTad ras daasax-<br />
elebT?<br />
- magaliTad, 2015 wels qalaqis<br />
meriam konkursi gamoacxada<br />
myari narCenebis TemasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, sadac 12 kompania<br />
monawileobda. saboloo<br />
jamSi, ori kompania darCa. er-<br />
Ti kompania 600 milioni evros<br />
investicias sTavazobda, meore<br />
ki - 74 milionis odenobiT. mowveuli<br />
iyo ori eqsperti, erTi<br />
iyo „ibiardis“ eqsperti, meore<br />
- SvedeTis. SvedeTis eqspertma<br />
Tqva, rom plazmuri teqnologia<br />
aris uaxlesi donis, me amis<br />
eqsperti ar varo da wavida;<br />
„ibiardis“ eqspertma Tqva, rom<br />
geTvis gareSe am konkurss azri<br />
ar aqvso. geTvi aris, rodesac<br />
kompania ambobs, rom nagvis gadasaxadi<br />
iqneba Cadebuli mis<br />
saqmianobaSi da meriis piroba<br />
aseTi iyo, rom kompania maSin<br />
imarjvebs, Tu geTvize uars<br />
ambobs. orive kompania ambobda<br />
uars geTvize da „ibiardis“<br />
eqsperti, romelic moiwvies da<br />
10-15 aTasi dolari gadauxades,<br />
ambobs, rom Tu geTvi ar aris,<br />
Cemi eqspertuli daskvna mainc<br />
araferSi gamogadgebaTo. adga<br />
da wavida. gaamarjvebines 74-<br />
milionian kompanias. ismis kiTxva,<br />
- rodesac qveyanaSi aseTi<br />
gaWirvebaa, rodesac kompania<br />
600 milionis investiciis Cadebas<br />
apirebs saqarTveloSi da<br />
ambobs, rom daaxloebiT 1500-<br />
dan 1800 kacamde iqneba dasaqmebuli<br />
30 wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
mSeneblobis periodSi es piroba<br />
3-dan 5 wlamde iyo da 5-dan<br />
6 aTasi kacis dasaqmebas gulisxmobda,<br />
xelisufleba uars<br />
ityoda aseT proeqtze, roca<br />
meore kompania asaqmebda mxolod<br />
40 kacs?! plus mTlianad<br />
narCenebs utilizacias ver uke-<br />
Tebda da rasac ver amuSavebda,<br />
4-5% rCeboda da plazmuri teqnologia<br />
amuSavebs mTlianad,<br />
araferi rCeba. Tu Sen marTla<br />
zrunav xalxze, socialurad<br />
aseTi gaWirvebuli foni gaqvs,<br />
aseT investiciaze uars ityodi?<br />
ra Tqma unda, ara! e.i. Tu<br />
uars ambob, amis ukan raRac, an<br />
viRac dgas! 74-milioniani kompaniidan<br />
SesaZlebelia, „atkati“<br />
aqvT aRebuli 4-5 milioni<br />
da gaamarjvebines im kompanias.<br />
me maSinac vyvirodi am sakiTxze<br />
da maSin Tqveni gazeTis<br />
meSveobiTac gavida informacia,<br />
magram rodesac parlamentSi ar<br />
xar, opoziciuri partia xar,<br />
amas uyureben zereled - iyvirebs<br />
da gaCerdeba, magram axla<br />
parlamentSi var. axla gamoviTxove<br />
meriidan orive eqspertis<br />
daskvna, 20 dRea velodebiT<br />
pasuxs da merias rom SevaxseneT,<br />
dRes darekes, rom Tqvengan<br />
wamosuli werili dakarguliao.<br />
ubralod, gamecina,<br />
rodemde unda gawelon ase? meore<br />
werils gavagzavni da, saboloo<br />
jamSi, pasuxis gacema mainc<br />
mouwevT. axla amaT erTmaneTSi<br />
aqvT datakebebi, rom Sen<br />
xom momawerine xeli, axla Sen<br />
age pasuxi, meria qumsiSvils da<br />
viRacas eubneba da a.S. amaT sakuTari<br />
Tavi TviTon Caigdes am<br />
dReSi da ratom? viRacas,<br />
ubralod, jibis fulad undoda<br />
4-5 milioni, SeiZleba 2 milionic,<br />
me ar vici, ra Tanxa aqvT<br />
aRebuli. Cemi varaudia, rom<br />
korufciasTan gvaqvs saqme, magram<br />
vTqvaT, rom Tanxa ar aqvT<br />
aRebuli, ratom Rupav qalaqs?!<br />
ratom akargvineb 1500 adamians<br />
Semosavlis wyaros?! raRac<br />
logikuri mizezi xom unda arsebobdes?!<br />
amitom mimaCnia, rom<br />
es aris Tanxa, sxva mizezi,<br />
ubralod, gaugebaria.<br />
- kidev ras miiCnevT xelisu-<br />
flebis mTavar problemad?<br />
- magaliTad, aqcizebis gaZvireba,<br />
esec xom arasworad gadadgmuli<br />
nabiji iyo. jer er-<br />
Ti, xelisuflebasa da xalxs<br />
Soris komunikacia yovelTvis<br />
aucilebelia. xalxs ise avuxsni,<br />
rom es saWiroa da amis gakeTeba<br />
amas da amas mogvitans.<br />
ar unda moatyuo xalxi! Tu xelisuflebisa<br />
da xalxis komunikacia<br />
arsebobs, arasworia!<br />
rodesac ambob, rom me vaweseb<br />
aqcizs, es ar aris komunikacia,<br />
es aris informaciis miwodeba.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
komunikacia iqneba maSin, rom me<br />
gavSalo am aqcizis principi,<br />
Tu rame gegmaSi maqvs, es yvelaferi<br />
unda movuyve mosaxleobas,<br />
rom dadebiTad Seafason<br />
Cem mier gadadgmuli nabiji.<br />
rodesac gamovdivar da xistad<br />
vambob, rom aqcizs vaZvireb da<br />
modi, nu daiwyebT axla imaze<br />
saubars, rom is gamiZvirdeba da<br />
raRac, Cven vambobT, rom es<br />
aris swori gza, ar SeiZleba, es<br />
adamianis Seuracxyofaa. yvelas<br />
esmis, rom navTobze gaZvirebuli<br />
aqcizi mTlianad aZvirebs<br />
produqts. yvelafers rom Tavi<br />
davaneboT, navTobze gaZvirda<br />
aqcizi da gaZvirda yvelaferze<br />
imitom, rom Cven pirdapir<br />
varT mibmulebi transportTan.<br />
ismis kiTxva, - gaZvirebuli aqcizi<br />
ufro metad mniSvnelovani<br />
iyo am xelisuflebisTvis<br />
Tu, magaliTad, 600-milioniani<br />
investicia, romelic, garkveulwilad,<br />
cota ganmuxtavda<br />
TviTon savaluto fons. lari<br />
yoveldRe imitom ecema, rom ar<br />
Semodis da brunvaSi ar aris<br />
dolari, evro da a.S., anu rac<br />
ufro deficitSia dolari, miT<br />
ufro imatebs misi kursi. Cven<br />
varT mibmulebi dolarze. arsebobs<br />
aseTi rame, romelic xelisuflebas<br />
„patriotTa aliansis“<br />
Tavmjdomare daviT Tarxan-mouravma<br />
SesTavaza da am<br />
Temaze isaubra, rom dolarizaciac<br />
SemoviRoT, anu iyos brunvaSi<br />
dolari, iseve rogorc lari.<br />
maSin meti dolari Semova.<br />
garkveulwilad, es, ra Tqma<br />
unda, lars gaaufasurebs. sxvadasxva<br />
qveynis magaliTia, sadac<br />
dolari Semodis da aris mimoqcevaSi,<br />
sakuTari valuta fass<br />
kargavs, magram rodesac dolari<br />
mudmiv brunvaSi iqneba, mere,<br />
erT mSvenier dRes, SegiZlia,<br />
dolari erovnul valutasTan<br />
gaaTanabro, saerTod dolari<br />
gaauqmo da erovnuli valuta<br />
gamouSva. es stabilurad<br />
awevs socialur dones, manamde<br />
xom unda moimoqmedo raRac,<br />
rom ar gaufasurdes lari, pirdapir<br />
dolarze rom ar viyoT<br />
mibmulebi, rogorc viyaviT.<br />
dRes ase uamravi qveyanaa.<br />
- politikur nebas ver xe-<br />
davT?<br />
- diax, politikuri nebaa saWiro<br />
da ratom - xelisuflebas,<br />
rogorc wesi, ar surs, rom<br />
socialuri done iyos aweuli<br />
imitom, rom xelisuflebaSi<br />
dRes arian bankirebi, romlebmac<br />
marto fulis keTeba ician,<br />
mTeli cxovreba bankSi muSaobdnen<br />
da fuls akeTebdnen.<br />
is rom xelisuflebaSi modis,<br />
qveyanas uyurebs, rogorc erT<br />
did banks, nu damarwmunebs vinme,<br />
rom rodesac bankiri xelisuflebaSi<br />
modis, maSinve transformacia<br />
xdeba da xalxze<br />
zrunavs, es aris absurdi! dResac<br />
viyavi bankSi, sesxis aReba<br />
mindoda da miTxres, 15%-ad<br />
mogcemTo. vuTxari, - xalxo, axla<br />
gvinda miviRoT kanonproeqti,<br />
rom agikrZaloT amxela<br />
procentiani sesxebis gacemameTqi.<br />
15%-iani sesxi maSin, roca<br />
TviTon banks aqvs xelSekruleba<br />
evropul Tu aziur bankebTan<br />
da maTgan moaqvT wliur<br />
1-1,5%-Si?! ki magram Cvens xalxze<br />
rom ar gaakeTo fuli, gaakeTe<br />
8%, esec xom SeRavaTi iqneba<br />
maTTvis da Tqvenc xom ufro<br />
metad SegxedavT, rogorc<br />
namusian xalxs-meTqi. dRes bankirebi<br />
arian xelisuflebaSi<br />
da fuls akeTeben. ismis kiTxva,<br />
- xelisuflebaSi movida Zala<br />
da 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi sxvadasxva<br />
maqinaciiT akeTebs 2-3<br />
miliard dolars. navTobis<br />
tranziti gvaqvs, axla „gazpromTan“<br />
gaformda xelSekruleba...<br />
arCevnebi rom modis, daaxloebiT,<br />
50 miliardi SeiZleba<br />
daxarjos xelisuflebam, saitze<br />
ki wers, rom milion naxevari<br />
daxarja, magram Tqvenc xom<br />
kargad gesmiT, rom ar SeiZleba<br />
daurigo 500-500 lari koordinatorebs<br />
da mxolod am TanxaSi<br />
Caetio, es aris absurdi!<br />
xarjavs, daaxloebiT, 50-dan 80<br />
milionamde imisTvis, rom isev<br />
xelisuflebaSi darCes! ra Tqma<br />
unda, uRirs, 3 miliards akeTebs,<br />
80 milions xarjavs... es aris<br />
bankiris azrovneba da misi<br />
misia am qveyanaze! es yvelas kargad<br />
unda gvesmodes, samwuxarod,<br />
mosaxleobas ar esmis, hgonia,<br />
rom xval-zeg mixvdeba da<br />
raRacas gaakeTebs. radgan qu-<br />
CaSi ar cxrilaven adamianebs,<br />
radgan cixeebidan ar gvesmis<br />
xalxis gaupatiurebis ambavi, es<br />
xelisufleba kargia, ase afasebs<br />
sazogadoeba. Tu mSieri<br />
vkvdebi, sulerTia CemTvis qu-<br />
CaSi xvreten xalxs Tu cixeSi<br />
aupatiureben, Tu mainc vnadgurdebiT.<br />
Tu erTi xelisufleba<br />
anadgurebs sxva xerxiT da meore<br />
sxviT, amas mniSvneloba ar<br />
aqvs, CemTvis orive cudia!<br />
- zemoT „gazpromi“ axseneT,<br />
Tqvenma partiam saeWvo xelSek-<br />
rulebad Seafasa...<br />
- rac Seexeba am kontraqts,<br />
pirdapir xels ver vadeb, radgan<br />
amis dasabuTeba ar Semi-<br />
Zlia, magram logikur doneze<br />
SemiZlia gamovTqva Cemi varaudi.<br />
Tu Sen aformeb raRac garigebas,<br />
ratom itoveb saidumlod?!<br />
arada, es garigeba tranzitzea,<br />
aq saidumlo ra unda<br />
iyos?! xalxs ratom unda daumalo,<br />
ra fuli Semodis am tranzitidan,<br />
ra aris aq dasamali?!<br />
mimalav imitom, rom Sen biujetSi<br />
Seitan 50 milions maSin,<br />
rodesac Cven gvekuTvnis naxevari<br />
miliardi. daaxloebiT es<br />
sqemaa. Tu yvelaferi gamWvirvalea,<br />
Tu arafers malav, Tu<br />
SenTvis sasargeblo garigebas<br />
ar deb, maSin Riad ityvi, - xalxo,<br />
ager davdeT xelSekruleba,<br />
aqedan unda miviRoT amdeni,<br />
amdeni Seva biujetSi da a.S. yvela<br />
iqneba wynarad da kmayofili.<br />
rodesac aseTi faruli<br />
garigebebi dgeba, miT umetes,<br />
„gazpromTan“ da meubnebi, rom<br />
ver getyvi, ra weria im xelSekrulebaSi<br />
imitom, rom saidumlod<br />
davtoveT es sabuTi, amaSi<br />
saidumloeba araferia, aq rom<br />
atomur bombs vamzadebde, gasagebia,<br />
magram tranzitzea laparaki.<br />
aseTi varaudi miCndeba,<br />
rom gvekuTvnis, magaliTad,<br />
tranzitidan Semosuli naxevari<br />
miliardi, Tanxobrivi iqneba Tu<br />
produqciis saxiT, xelSekrulebaa<br />
gaformebuli 50 milionze,<br />
300 milioni wava viRacis<br />
jibeSi, darCenili 150 milioni<br />
- ruseTis mxares darCeba imitom,<br />
rom am garigebaSi xeli Seuwyo<br />
Cvens xelisuflebas. aseTi<br />
STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom ase-<br />
Ti garigebaa. Tu vcdebi da ara<br />
marto me, unda gamovides xelisufleba<br />
da xalxs uTxras,<br />
rom xalxo, Tqven fantaziebSi<br />
xarT, araferi momxdara da punqtebad<br />
unda gaSalon sakiTxebi,<br />
rasTan gvaqvs saqme. kidev<br />
erTxel vimeoreb: safuZliani<br />
eWvi maqvs vifiqro, rom garigeba<br />
moxda! aseve vifiqreb „sokarTan“<br />
dadebul xelSkrulebaze.<br />
uamravi Tema arsebobs,<br />
razedac xelisufleba ver<br />
gcems pasuxs, es niSnavs imas,<br />
rom xelisuflebas ar aqvs komunikacia<br />
xalxTan. xalxis mxridan<br />
ndobis xarisxic ukve daeca<br />
zustad imitom, rom Zalian<br />
bevri ram rCeba inkognitod! es<br />
qveyana ar aris xelisuflebis<br />
da aris im xalxis, romelic am<br />
xelisuflebaSi cxovrobs da<br />
saxelmwifo valdebulia, rom<br />
xalxma icodes es informacia!<br />
saxelmwifo aris is xalxi, romelic<br />
cxovrobs arsebul teritoriaze,<br />
romelsac hqvia saqarTvelo!<br />
aqedan gamomdinare<br />
vambob, rom sanam ar Seicvleba<br />
saarCevno sistema, sadac ar<br />
miecema saSualeba romelime politikur<br />
Zalas, rom iyidos<br />
amomrCeveli, iyidos koordinatorebi<br />
da a. S., sanam ar Camoyalibdeba<br />
gamWvirvale urTier-<br />
Toba xalxsa da xelisuflebas<br />
Soris, manamde Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
yovelTvis viqnebiT aseT dRe-<br />
Si! sanam bankiri iqneba xelisuflebaSi,<br />
saqarTvelos araferi<br />
eSveleba!<br />
N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />
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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
Tumca, inauguraciidan sul<br />
cota xanSi, ukrainaSi moqmedi<br />
prorusuli saitebi waleka mixeil<br />
saakaSvilis fotoebma, sadac<br />
is vaSingtonSi, trampis inauguraciis<br />
dRes, TiTqosda, ma-<br />
Sin iyo gadaRebuli, roca ceremonials<br />
Robis miRma, buCqebSi<br />
mdgari, ramdenime moqalaqis garemocvaSi<br />
adevnebda Tvals.<br />
bunebrivia, rusuli mesijboqsi<br />
maSinve aitaces „ruseTTan<br />
daZmobilebulma” qarTulma vebgverdebma<br />
da, rasakvirvelia,<br />
saakaSvilze qilikze uari arc<br />
„feisbuqis” qarTvel momxmarebelTa<br />
im nawils uTqvams, romelic,<br />
rogorc wesi, msgavs<br />
Sanss xelidan ar uSvebs da,<br />
umeteswilad, maTi mxridan gaziarebebi<br />
da komentarebi TiTqmis<br />
maSinve Cndeba, roca „kompromatebi”,<br />
fotoebi da, sxva<br />
SemTxvevaSi, videoebi ukrainul<br />
portalebze qveyndeba xolme.<br />
„saakaSvili inauguracias<br />
Robis miRma adevnebda Tvals”;<br />
„mcvelebma saakaSvili inauguraciis<br />
farTobidan buCqebSi<br />
gaaZeves”;<br />
„saakaSvili namdvilad iyo<br />
trampis inauguraciaze, oRond,<br />
buCqebSi”, _ ai, im saTaurTa arasruli<br />
CamonaTvali, romlebzec<br />
rusuli Savi piaris ostatebi<br />
daixarjnen da moifiqres...<br />
SegaxsenebT, rom saakaSvilis<br />
vaSingtonSi, inauguraciaze miwvevis<br />
ambavi saqarTveloSi ma-<br />
Sin gaxda cnobili, roca enm-s<br />
yrilobamde ramdenime dRiT<br />
adre nika melia kievidan Camovida<br />
da ganacxada, rom mixeil<br />
saakaSvili vaSingtonSi gamgzavrebas<br />
apirebda, xolo misi kievSi<br />
Casvlis erT-erTi mizani<br />
isic iyo, rom teqnikuri detalebi<br />
ganexilaT, ra formiT CaerTveboda<br />
mixeil saakaSvili<br />
enm-s yrilobis delegatebisadmi<br />
mimarTvis dros.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, ukrainuli internetgamocemebi<br />
maSin aqtiurad<br />
werdnen imazec, rom ukrainis<br />
prezidenti petro poro-<br />
Senko inauguraciaze ar mii-<br />
donald trampis inauguraciis<br />
laSa berulava<br />
detalebis ganxilvisas yvela sx-<br />
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vadasxva rames ganixilavda, imisda<br />
mixedviT, Tu vis ra ainteresebda:<br />
zogi trampis gzavnilebma SeaSfoTa, zogi melania trampis<br />
Cacmulobis detalebs akvirdeboda, zogic _ ivanka tram-<br />
pis qcevas inauguraciis dros, romelic xan mowyenili iyo da<br />
xan Tavis disSvils eTamaSeboda.<br />
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wvies, Tumca prezidentis administraciam<br />
ganmarta, rom inauguraciaze<br />
ar iwveven qveynebis<br />
meTaurebs da iq mxolod diplomatiuri<br />
misia, aseve, qveynis<br />
yofili xelmZRvanelobaa wardgenili.<br />
mixeil saakaSvili aSS-Si miwveuli<br />
rom iqneboda, wesiT, es<br />
gasakviri arc unda yofiliyo _<br />
mas trampTan piradi nacnobobac<br />
akavSirebs da amis garda,<br />
trampTan daaxloebul pirebsac<br />
icnobs. mosawvevis gagzavna<br />
kongresmenebsac SeeZloT da<br />
Zneli dasajerebeli araferia,<br />
Tuki saqarTvelos mesame prezidents<br />
vaSingtonSi gavleniani<br />
nacnobi aRmoaCndeboda, vinc<br />
mosawvevs gaugzavnida.<br />
vin, vin da mixeil saakaSvili<br />
rom buCqebidan adevnebda<br />
Tvals trampis inauguracias,<br />
iseTive sasacilo Temaa, rogoric<br />
is, ruseTis motrfiale<br />
qarTvelebi rom iZaxdnen obamasaakaSvilis<br />
Sexvedris dros, _<br />
derefanSi udarajebda barak<br />
obamas, gadaeyara, mieWra, imanac<br />
xeli CamoarTva, foto gadauRes<br />
da atvirTeso.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, mis winaaRmdeg<br />
agorebul rusul Sav piars mixeil<br />
saakaSvili TviTonve gamoexmaura<br />
da feisbuqis sakuTar<br />
gverdze atvirTa misi „mamxilebeli”<br />
fotoebi, ganmartebis saxiT<br />
ki moayola:<br />
„Cven araerTxel SevTavazeT<br />
ukrainul telearxebs gaeSuqemixeil<br />
saakaSvili:<br />
`SeeSvan Cem<br />
devnas xan<br />
aeroportebSi<br />
da xan<br />
tualetebSi,<br />
ukrainaze<br />
ifiqron~<br />
binaT Cemi yofna trampis inauguraciaze,<br />
magram maT es ar undodaT.<br />
samagierod, maTi nawili<br />
erToblivad axdens rusuli<br />
kavSirebis mqone pirebis mier<br />
gadaRebuli fotoebis tira-<br />
Jirebas, sadac me inauguraciidan<br />
ukve gamosuli, jgufis<br />
sxva wevrebs velodebi. ugunurebi<br />
ugunurebad rCebian da maT-<br />
Tvis arafris damtkicebas ar<br />
vapireb. bolo ramdenime kviris<br />
ganmavlobaSi kontaqti mqonda<br />
trampis gundTan, saidanac<br />
bevrs piradad vicnob da vapireb,<br />
aqtiurad viTanamSromlo<br />
ukrainis megobrebTan am<br />
administraciaSi, imis miuxedavad,<br />
Tu ra Worebs gaavrceleben<br />
Cveni mtrebi.<br />
xan aeroportSi farulad<br />
gadamiReben xolme, xan ceremoniidan<br />
gamosuls da mere uamrav<br />
Wors akereben amas. es yvelaferi<br />
mxolod imas mianiSnebs,<br />
rom swor gzaze varT da mtrebs<br />
Cveni eSiniaT.<br />
maT SeuZliaT, gaagrZelon<br />
Savi piaris agoreba, Cven ki<br />
Cvens saqmes gavakeTebT Cvens<br />
yvela megobarTan erTad, raTa<br />
ukrainis saerTaSoriso poziciebi<br />
gavaZlieroT.<br />
ukeTesi iqneboda, isini TavianT<br />
Zalisxmevas swored ukrainis<br />
poziciebis gasaZliereblad<br />
xarjavdnen da ara imisTvis,<br />
rom aeroportebsa Tu<br />
tualetebSi kudSi mdion.<br />
me ar mWirdeba Cemi piradi<br />
saerTaSoriso megobruli kav-<br />
SirebiT spekulireba imisTvis,<br />
rom Cveni moqalaqeebis keTilganwyoba<br />
movipovo. Cemi brZolis<br />
veli ukraina da ukrainuli<br />
politikaa, saidanac unda mova-<br />
SoroT mas mitmasnili „barigebi”,<br />
_ aRniSna saakaSvilma.<br />
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mokled, „nacebis” SesaWmelad<br />
momzadebuli kovzi bi-<br />
Zinas im nacarSi Cauvarda,<br />
romelsac am bolo wlebSi uxvad<br />
iyridnen Tavze swored „nacebi”.<br />
da ra miiRo? „nacebis”<br />
mier Tavze nacris yra dasrulda.<br />
is nawili, romelic bodiSebis<br />
xdiT iyo dakavebuli, anu<br />
figuralurad rom vTqvaT,<br />
Tavze nacars iyrida, partiidan<br />
wasulia da axla ukve romc<br />
gaagrZelon bodiSebis xda, es<br />
„nacebis” mier Tavze nacris<br />
yrad veRar CaiTvleba. is didi<br />
nawili ki, romelic darCa, da<br />
romelsac 20 ianvars yriloba<br />
hqonda, naklebad iyo dakavebuli<br />
am saqmianobiT. anu mokled,<br />
kovzis nacarSi CavardniT, „nacebSi”<br />
nacris xana damTavrda.<br />
ra daiwyeba da rogor gagr-<br />
Zeldeba, amas yvela erTad vnaxavT.<br />
mTavaria, axla ukve qveyanaSi<br />
dasruldes nacris xana _<br />
anu amomrCevlisTvis TvalebSi<br />
nacris Seyris periodi. albaT,<br />
swored am xanis moaxloebis<br />
eSinoda im brZen kacs da amitom<br />
cdilobda ase gaSmagebiT _<br />
mTavari safrTxis, saxelad<br />
saakaSvilis ganeitralebas. albaT,<br />
amas grZnoben „qocebi” da<br />
amitomac axarebT mciredic ki,<br />
magaliTad is, rom „nacmoZraobis”<br />
politsabWos arCevis Semdeg,<br />
partiis mxardamWerTa<br />
mxridan, gamoiTqva gulis tkivili<br />
da daisva kiTxvebi, Tu ratom<br />
ver moxvda politsabWoSi<br />
megi gociriZe, maia orjonikiZe?<br />
mxardamWerTa Tu aqtivistTa<br />
nawili sxvebsac asaxelebda.<br />
„qocebisa” Tu „nacmoZraobidan”<br />
wasulTa mxridan qirqil-qiliki<br />
da metic, sixaruli,<br />
sruliad, uadgiloa. Tu oponentebma<br />
sxva veraferi monaxes<br />
gasaxar-gasarTob-saqiliko, es<br />
sworedac unda uxarodes „nacmoZraobas”<br />
da me Tu mkiTxavT,<br />
aseve sruliad uadgiloa „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” rigi<br />
mxardamWerebisa da aqtivistebis<br />
metismeti gawiwmateba, rogor<br />
Tu vinmem gabeda da es iki-<br />
Txa, an survili gamoxata, politsabWoSi<br />
exila megi gociriZe<br />
da maia orjonikiZe.<br />
mokled, ra moxda? mxardam-<br />
WerTa nawili umadurobad miiCnevs<br />
megi gociriZis politsab-<br />
WoSi arSeyvanas, meore nawili<br />
ki wiwmatobs, Tu rogor bedaven<br />
am sakiTxis win wamowevas da<br />
„qocebis” gulis gaxarebas. daviwyoT<br />
imiT, rom „qocebma” guli<br />
ukve gaixares imiT, rom maTi<br />
„naTlia”, megi gociriZe, Tama-<br />
Sgare mdgomareobaSi ixiles da<br />
amis metad veranairad ver gaaxarebs<br />
maT vinmes mier legitimurad<br />
dasmuli kiTxva. es ise,<br />
xilad da desertad. realurad<br />
ki saqme gvaqvs bevrad ufro<br />
principul sakiTxTan. mxardam-<br />
WerTa nawili Wkuas aswavlis<br />
mxardamWerTa nawils. anu ras<br />
aswavlis, rogor dauWiros mxari?<br />
sadaa azris gamoxatvis<br />
ufleba? ras moutans ganaxlebul<br />
„nacmoZraobas” misive mx-<br />
rezo SatakiSvili<br />
biZinas kovzi nacarSi Cauvarda. vera da ver moaxerxa mix-<br />
eil saakaSvilis „nacmoZraobidan” distancireba. aswlovan da<br />
as „metrian” maRal xeebs aqeT-iqiT daatarebs, sakuTar ezoSi<br />
miaqanebs, magram ver iqna da ver gadga „maRali” da Ripiani<br />
miSa mis mierve daarsebuli partiidan.<br />
ardamWerebis SezRudva, azri<br />
gamoxaton partiaSi mimdinare<br />
procesebze Riad da sajarod?<br />
isev da isev, mxardamWerTa nawilis<br />
gaucxoebas gamoiwvevs maT<br />
mier mxardaWeril ZalasTan.<br />
misgan distancirebas, masze gulis<br />
acruebas. miviRebT isev im<br />
Caketil wres, romelsac sul<br />
cota xnis win es yvela mxardam-<br />
Weri erTad ebrZoda.<br />
ra iyo argumentebi? „ase wera<br />
ar SeiZleba”, „araa saWiro”,<br />
„SigniT gaarkvieT”, „yvela ver<br />
moxvdeba politsabWoSi”, „megi<br />
isedac ibrZolebs” da a. S.<br />
mivyveT am ukbilo argumentebs:<br />
ras hqvia, „ar SeiZleba” da<br />
„araa saWiro”, an „SigniT gaarkvieT”?<br />
da ratom sazRvravs amas<br />
an mxardamWerTa nawili, an partaqtivi,<br />
ras miiCnevs saWirod<br />
mxardamWerTa jgufi? igive am<br />
bolo Tveebis ganmavlobaSi, ra,<br />
cota iyo SemTxveva, rodesac<br />
mxardamWerTa mcire nawili<br />
mwvaved svamda kiTxvebs da swored<br />
mxardamWerTa umravlesoba,<br />
lamis, ukuRma svamda virze<br />
maT amis gamo da rogorc Semdeg<br />
aRmoCda, swored is mcire<br />
nawili iyo marTali da mere<br />
ukve yvelam irwmuna da alaparakda.<br />
alaparakda ki ara, Tu is<br />
mcire nawili kritikis format-<br />
Si moqmedebda, umravlesoba<br />
ukve lanZRvis formatSi gadavida<br />
da gadauswro im pirvel<br />
kritikul mercxlebs. axla vin<br />
icis, vinaa marTali? an ras<br />
hqvia, mxardamWeri SezRudo<br />
partiuli koniunqturiT da<br />
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ukiJino, SigniT gaarkvie? ra<br />
gaarkvios partiis rigiTma amomrCevelma,<br />
gare mxardamWerma<br />
SigniT, roca SigniT araa? rogor<br />
warmogidgeniaT, partiis<br />
naxevarmilionianma eleqtoratma<br />
partiis SigniT scados<br />
sakiTxebis Sinaurulad garkveva?<br />
partiis wevrebma, partiis<br />
aqtivma, diaxac, jer partiaSi<br />
unda gamoxaton pozicia, moiTxovon<br />
pasuxi da Tu sxva gza ar<br />
darCebaT, mere gaxadon procesi<br />
sajaro, magram igive moTxovna<br />
mxardamWerisgan ramdenad<br />
normaluria? swored es xom ar<br />
daazianebs partias, mxardamWerebs<br />
daakargvinebs da ara ki-<br />
Txvebis sajarod dasma? Tundac<br />
amiT vinme xarobdes?<br />
amomrCevels, gare mxardamWers<br />
unda hqondes ufleba azris<br />
sajarod gamoxatvisac da<br />
kritikuli kiTxvebis dasmisac<br />
da mas ar unda uwevdes yovliswamlekavi<br />
ieriSebis mogerieba<br />
am kiTxvis dasmisas Tu<br />
azris gamoxatvisas. elementarulad,<br />
partiaze jvari dawerili<br />
aravis aqvs, guls aicruebs,<br />
moswyindeba am lanZRva-TaTxvis<br />
gadatana da distancirdeba<br />
partiisgan. partia maTi saxiT<br />
dakargavs mxardamWers, amomrCevels<br />
da ukacravad, isini<br />
aanazRaureben am danakliss,<br />
vinc dRes feisbukze xaSlamasaviT<br />
aqeT-iqiT daatarebs<br />
Wkuas? orjer miscemen xmas es<br />
yovlismcodne subieqtebi?<br />
Tan rac yvelaze saintereso<br />
iyo, swored maTsave argumentebSi<br />
SeiniSneboda partiis damazianebeli<br />
elementebi da metic<br />
_ iribad Seuracxmyofeli<br />
gancxadebebi partiis politsabWoSi<br />
arCeulTa mimarT. Tundac<br />
igive frazaSi: „megi isedac<br />
ibrZolebs”. amiT ra gamoiyvanes,<br />
vinc politsabWoSi air-<br />
Cies, ise ar ibrZolebdnen, Tu<br />
am sabWoSi ar Seiyvandnen? an<br />
vis ras sZens fraza: „yvela ver<br />
moxvdeba politsabWoSi”? megi<br />
gociriZe an maia orjonikiZe<br />
yvelaa? davdgeT axla da „mamluqSi”<br />
romaa _ damsaxurebebs<br />
rom Tvlian da xalxi pasuxobs:<br />
„mahmudi” „mahmudi” _ eg movawyoT?<br />
sxva yvelafers rom Tavi<br />
davaneboT, sad iyo is yvela,<br />
rodesac pirdapir eTerebSi<br />
swored maia orjonikiZe da megi<br />
gociriZe upirispirdebodnen<br />
oponentebs mwvaved, sakuTar<br />
Tavze iRebdnen maT lanZRvaginebas?<br />
miT umetes maSin, roca<br />
nacris xanis<br />
dasasruli<br />
liderSips „galobani sinanulisani”<br />
sWirda?<br />
iyo argumentic, rom politsabWo<br />
araa ase mniSvnelovani.<br />
arada, swored bolodroindelma<br />
movlenebma cxadyo, rom, kritikul<br />
momentSi, sworedac rom<br />
mniSvnelovania, swored politsabWoze<br />
gadawyda, ra formatiT<br />
unda Catarebuliyo yriloba.<br />
am ambavze ase vrclad imitom<br />
SevCerdi, rom es swored is<br />
SemTxvevaa, romlidanac kargad<br />
Cans, raa saWiro, Tu „nacmoZraobas”<br />
marTlac surs gadavides<br />
ganviTarebis axal etapze. winaaRmdeg<br />
SemTxvevaSi, is kvlav<br />
daubrundeba im mdgomareobas,<br />
ra mdgomareobaSic iyo<br />
arCevnebis winare periodSi.<br />
liderSipmac, partaqtivmac<br />
da mxardamWerebmac unda gaisigrZeganon,<br />
rom mxardamWeri sxvaa<br />
da aqtivisti _ sxva. rom<br />
mxardamWeri Tu SeniSvnas gamo-<br />
Tqvams, piriqiT, madloba unda<br />
uTxra mas, moismino azri, gaiziaro,<br />
an ar gaiziaro. da Tu<br />
ar iziareb, auxsna. ar iqneba es<br />
komunikacia masTan? igi distancirdeba.<br />
da metic, Tu Tavpirs<br />
daalewav kiTxvis dasmis, SeniSvnis,<br />
azris gamoTqmis gamo, Tu<br />
mtrad ar mogekideba, wava da<br />
gagecleba, ar irwmunebs, rom<br />
Sen rame saerTo gaqvs demokratiasTan.<br />
unda moismino da aitano<br />
gansxvavebuli azri. Seni<br />
mxardamWeri ar niSnavs imas,<br />
rom askiliviT Tavi giqnios<br />
yvelaferze da Tu konkretuli<br />
mxardamWeri ar „askilobs”, Sen<br />
viRac yvelaferze Tavkantura<br />
askili eklebiT ar unda gamoudge<br />
mas.<br />
partiis liderSipi ar Car-<br />
Tula am „aRmosavlur orTabrZolebSi”,<br />
es calsaxad pozitiuria,<br />
magram imave liderSips<br />
mouwevs, sworedac rom akontrolos<br />
sakuTari wevrebi, rom<br />
maT xalxs ar mosTxovon igive,<br />
rac maT, rogorc partiis wevrebs,<br />
moeTxovebaT _ partiuli<br />
koniunqturis gaTvaliswineba.<br />
yvelam erTad unda gaisigrZeganos<br />
kritikis aucilebloba<br />
da rac mTavaria, mravalferovneba,<br />
mravalgvaroba. erTia<br />
mxardamWeris mier gamoTqmuli<br />
kritikuli mosazreba, meorea<br />
oponentisa da mesame _ mtris<br />
mier warmoebuli kritika. Tu<br />
yvelas, vinc ki Semogbedavs gakritikebas,<br />
miatristanwiTelaSvileb<br />
da mterTan moisvri erT<br />
tafaSi mosaxrakad, am gziT Tavadve<br />
SeaTxeleb Sens banaks.<br />
veRar moismen jansaR kritikas<br />
da moswydebi realobas, ambicia<br />
RrublebSi agitacebs da mere<br />
ise dagazRnerTebs miwaze, welsac<br />
veRar aiTrev da es wela-<br />
Treuli biZinas daamarcxeb ki<br />
ara, mis pingvinsac ver gamoudgebi,<br />
romc gamoudge, gagaswrebs,<br />
ver daiWer da frTamal<br />
pingvinad mogeCveneba.<br />
ai, es ki namdvilad gaaxarebs<br />
„qocebs” da gauxangrZlivebs<br />
maT netaryuCobas. Torem, ra<br />
naxes gasaxari imaSi, rom raRac<br />
nawilma ramdenime marTlac damsaxurebuli<br />
personis ararCeva<br />
gaaprotesta sabWoSi? rom<br />
gekiTxaT, es xalxi jogi iyo da<br />
Tu jogia, ratom ar dauqnies<br />
amaze Tavi „belads”?<br />
vinc ra ar unda iwiwmatos,<br />
es swored is eleqtoratia, romelic<br />
arc am ganaxlebul Semadgenlobas<br />
moasvenebs da Tu<br />
is simptomebi, rac rigi mxardamWerebisa<br />
Tu aqtivistebis bolo<br />
dReebis qmedebebSi gamoikveTa,<br />
TviTon liderebis donezec<br />
gamovlindeba, es liderSipic<br />
wina liderSipis beds gaiziarebs.<br />
amomrCeveli irCevs politikur<br />
Zalas da ara piriqiT.<br />
liderebi garemocvas irCeven<br />
da ara amomrCevels. amomrCeveli<br />
ki erTad afasebs lidersac<br />
da mis garemocvasac. SesaZloa,<br />
wlobiTac ki wauyruos da yuradReba<br />
ar miaqcios lideris<br />
garemocvas, magram erT dRes....<br />
da rac mTavaria, axla mainc<br />
dadga dro, wasulebic da dar-<br />
Cenilebic, Tu daSordnen, bolomde<br />
daSordnen da mixedon<br />
mTavars, Torem nametani grZeli<br />
ardadegebi gamouvida baton<br />
biZinas.<br />
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SesaZleblobebi saerTo saqmes,<br />
Cvens mTavar ideas, qarTuli<br />
saxelmwifoebriobis ganmtkicebas,<br />
ivaniSvilis reJimis damarcxebas<br />
moxmardes”, _ aRniSna<br />
Ciora TaqTaqiSvilma.<br />
rac Seexeba isev yrilobas,<br />
darbazsa da ganwyobas, 20 ianvars<br />
bevri saintereso da daskvnis<br />
gasakeTeblad gamosadegi<br />
faqtis SemCnevac SeiZleboda.<br />
albaT, yvelaze mTavari da<br />
enm-Si darCenili liderSipisTvis,<br />
pirvel rigSi, saintereso<br />
is iyo, rom delegatebsa<br />
da mowveul stumrebs Soris<br />
imediani ganwyoba SeiniSneboda.<br />
„qronika+” saqarTvelos sxvadasxva<br />
regionidan Camosul<br />
delegatebsa da stumrebs esaubra<br />
da stumrebs Soris iseTebic<br />
ipova, romlebic sagangebod<br />
yrilobaze dasaswrebad<br />
Camofrindnen sxvadasxva qveynidan.<br />
maTi azri partiis ganaxlebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT calsaxa<br />
iyo _ TiTqmis yvela ambobda,<br />
rom ganaxleba da maTi Camocileba,<br />
vinc viwro wreSi iRebda<br />
gadawyvetilebebs, jer kidev,<br />
didi xnis win iyo saWiro:<br />
„ar vici, Tqven rogor uyurebT<br />
am sakiTxs, magram me rasac<br />
vxedav isaa, rasac Cemi uamravi<br />
nacnobi meubneba, isini,<br />
romlebic arasdros uWerdnen<br />
mxars enm-s. isini amboben, rom<br />
vis gamoc ver itandnen saakaSvilis<br />
mmarTvelobis wlebs, enm<br />
TiTqmis yvelam datova. axla<br />
ar Sevudgebi im personebis CamoTvlas,<br />
mimaCnia, rom es urTierTbraldebebi<br />
unda morCes<br />
da gamijnulebma TavianTi<br />
gziT unda iaron, Cven _ Cveni<br />
gziT”, _ Tqva aSS-dan Camosulma<br />
erT-erTma mowveulma stumarma.<br />
„Zalian vwuxvar, rom samegrelo<br />
da kerZod, zugdidi am<br />
procesebSi arcTu kargad warmoCinda<br />
Cveni sami warmomadgenlis<br />
mxridan. isRa damrCenia<br />
vTqva, rom mxolod es sami adamiani<br />
ar aris enm-s zugdidis<br />
organizaciis saxe da amaze isic<br />
metyvelebs, rom maT, TiTqmis,<br />
aravin gahyolia Tan. saqar-<br />
TvelosTvis mniSvnelovan periodSi<br />
samegrelo yovelTvis<br />
swor da marTal pozicias ikavebda<br />
da axlac asea”, _ Tqva<br />
zugdidelma delegatma.<br />
enm-s yrilobaze kidev erTi<br />
siurprizi TiTqmis daviwyebuli<br />
Zveli saxeebis gamoCena iyo.<br />
magaliTad, grigol vaSaZisa da<br />
xatia dekanoiZis. es ukanaskneli<br />
yrilobaze waradgines, rogorc<br />
„ukrainasa da saqarTveloSi<br />
policiis reformis<br />
erT-erTi sulisCamdgmeli”.<br />
rasakvirvelia, ukve saRamos am<br />
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iyo, rom partiam gadawyvetileba<br />
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iyo gasuli, anu periodi, ra<br />
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dartymebis Semdeg, romelic<br />
enm-m ganicada, fexze wamodgoma<br />
nebismier sxva partias<br />
gauWirdeboda.<br />
magram enm-s VII yrilobis<br />
wina samzadisic da TviTon<br />
yrilobac wina Sekrebebisgan,<br />
wina yrilobisgan Tvisobrivad<br />
gansxvavebuli iyo _ enm-s bir-<br />
Tvi, partiis inteleqtualuri<br />
nawili da, zogis azriT, lokomotivad<br />
miCneuli pirebis umravlesoba<br />
partiidan wavida da<br />
axal partiaSi gadabargda.<br />
swored am da sxva garemoebebis<br />
gamo yrilobas zogi skeptikurad<br />
uyurebda, zogi ki daufaravi<br />
ironiiT elodeboda.<br />
enm-m moqirqileebs kidev erTxel<br />
gaucrua imedi da maTTvisac<br />
ki, visTvisac raodenobaa<br />
mTavari da ara xarisxi, Sedegi<br />
dado: sportis sasaxle gaivso<br />
da yrilobis dawyebac ki dagvianda,<br />
sanam organizatorebma<br />
ar gadawyvites, rom delegat-<br />
Ta registracia daCqarebuli<br />
wesiT CaetarebinaT, raTa yrilobis<br />
dawyeba didad ar gaweliliyo.<br />
sabolood, registracia<br />
7 aTasidan 6 aTas 871-ma delegatma<br />
gaiara da yriloba mu-<br />
Saobas Seudga.<br />
movlenebs rom cota win gavuswroT,<br />
unda vTqvaT, rom demokratiulobis<br />
kuTxiT es yriloba<br />
verc sxvebisgan gamorCeuli<br />
gamodga da verc ukeTesi:<br />
rogorc Cans, forsmaJorSi momuSave<br />
organizatorebma yrilobis<br />
vizualur mxareze ufro<br />
izrunes (rogorc yovel-<br />
Tvis), amitomac politsabWos<br />
wevrTa kandidatebis siebi winaswar<br />
ar gamouqveynebiaT.<br />
marTalia, politsabWoSi dasaxelebul<br />
yvela wevrs, romelTac<br />
scenaze ixmobdnen, darbazi<br />
ovaciiT xvdeboda da erTxmadac<br />
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rasakvirvelia, es ar iyo normaluri<br />
procedura _ roca or<br />
wuTSi 70 gvars da saxels dagisaxeleben,<br />
verc imas gaiazreb,<br />
vinmes winaaRmdegi xar Tu ara<br />
am siaSi, verc imas, vin moisaklise.<br />
swored amitom kritikuli<br />
paTosi „feisbuqze” yrilobis<br />
dasrulebidan ramdenime saaT-<br />
Si gaCnda. zogma vin moisaklisa<br />
politsabWoSi da zogma _ vin,<br />
ZiriTadad, rasakvirvelia, isini,<br />
vinc namdvilad imsaxurebda<br />
iq yofnas, magram bevrma<br />
isic Tqva, sinamdvileSi, Zalian<br />
bevri adamiani imsaxurebs politsabWoSi<br />
yofnas da es organo<br />
yvela Rirseuls ver daitevso...<br />
mTavari mainc ara pretenziebi,<br />
aramed is reaqcia iyo, rac<br />
enm-s politsabWos wevrebis<br />
mxridan kritikas mohyva: magaliTad,<br />
Ciora TaqTaqiSvili<br />
kritikulad ganwyobilebs, romlebic<br />
werdnen, rom partiis<br />
dabruneba xalxisTvis blefia,<br />
ki ar gaemijna da lanZRva ki ar<br />
dauwyo, piriqiT, aRniSna, rom<br />
politsabWos wevrTa siis winaswar<br />
argamoqveyneba Secdoma<br />
iyo:<br />
„marTali brZandebiT! politsabWos<br />
Semadgenloba, Tundac,<br />
misi Semadgenlobis pirveladi<br />
versia, winaswar unda gamogveqveynebina.<br />
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axali standartis damkvidreba.<br />
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momavalSi igive Secdomas<br />
aRar gavimeorebT.<br />
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xarvezisa, Tqven erTxmad gamogvicxadeT<br />
ndoba, ndoba gamoucxadeT<br />
politsabWos axal<br />
wevrebs, axal Tavmjdomares da<br />
mis moadgileebs.<br />
es udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa<br />
TiToeuli CvenganisTvis.<br />
Cemi mTavari amocana iqneba,<br />
rom saqmiT davamtkicoT is,<br />
rac vTqviT yrilobaze: diax,<br />
Cven ar SegveSindeba siaxleebis,<br />
gaxsnilobis, gamWvirvalobisa<br />
da Tqven winaSe angariSvaldebuli<br />
viqnebiT.<br />
magram yvela unda SevTanxmdeT,<br />
rom Sors ver wavalT, Tu<br />
enm-s VII yrilobis<br />
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am unikaluri, umniSvnelovanesi<br />
da uZlieresi yrilobis<br />
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isic unda yofiliyo politsabWoSi!”<br />
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_ am Wrilidan.<br />
arian iseTi umagresi adamianebic,<br />
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xeli, miuxedavad yovelgvari<br />
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damarcxebaze uars acxadeben<br />
li iyo da ara xatia dekanoiZeo.<br />
arada, merabiSvilis rolis<br />
daknineba am sakiTxSi aravis<br />
ucdia, miT umetes, rom Tavad<br />
masac araerTxel mouxseniebia<br />
xatia dekanoiZis wvlili<br />
policiis reformaSi.<br />
„qelexs gvimzadebdnen da<br />
dabadebis dRe ki gamouvidaT”,<br />
_ grigol vaSaZis es fraza,<br />
albaT, yvelaze naTlad asaxavs<br />
ganwyobasac da momavlis imedsac,<br />
rac im dRes sportis<br />
sasaxleSi SeimCneoda. grigol<br />
vaSaZem erTi saintereso frazac<br />
Tqva: „kinwiskvriT gaagdeT<br />
partiidan yvela, vinc iq piradi<br />
gamorCenis mizniT miva,<br />
erTi dRec ar gaaCeroT...”<br />
iyo sxva mniSvnelovani gzavnilebic:<br />
magaliTad, samira<br />
ismailovam Tqva, rom bolnissa<br />
da marneulSi saqarTveloSi<br />
mcxovrebi „eTnikuri umciresobis<br />
wevrebma” daamtkices,<br />
rom eTnikurad araqarTvelebi<br />
yovelTvis ar aZleven xmas saxelisuflebo<br />
gunds: „Cven amas<br />
sxva drosac davamtkicebT,<br />
sxva arCevnebze”, _ Tqva ismailovam.<br />
rogorc yovelTvis, emociurobiTa<br />
da pirdapirobiT gamoirCeoda<br />
zaza bibilaSvilis<br />
gamosvla, romelmac pirdapir<br />
Tqva, rom saqarTvelos moRalate<br />
xelisufleba hyavs:<br />
„Cven unda avafrialoT erovnuli<br />
droSa jer sololakis<br />
qedze, Semdeg ki soxumSi, _<br />
Tqva man da daamata, _ SeuZlebelia<br />
im xalxis damarcxeba,<br />
romelic damarcxebaze uars<br />
acxadebs”.<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis gzavnilebi,<br />
misi CarTvis dros, signalis<br />
xSirad Sewyvetis gamo,<br />
darbazs Cveul draivSi ver<br />
miewoda, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />
yrilobis bolo nawilSi, is<br />
isev CaerTo da amjerad yvelaferi<br />
Tqva, risi Tqmac undoda.<br />
rasakvirvelia, arc Cveuli<br />
gabrazeba daviwyebia da ase ganacxada,<br />
_ swori is ki ar aris,<br />
fsevdoliberalizmis egidiT<br />
vin ras ambobs, marTali mxolod<br />
Tqven xarTo.<br />
„erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />
ar aris da ver gaxdeba<br />
elituri klubi”, _ Tqva mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma.<br />
kidev erTi detali: arc erT<br />
gamomsvlels, maT Soris, arc<br />
mixeil saakaSvils, enm-dan wasuli<br />
pirebi yrilobaze personalurad<br />
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Txel, absoluturad misaReb<br />
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maSinve pirveli piris mravlobiTSi<br />
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imis gamo, rom visac ar ezareboda,<br />
yvela imas ayvedrida,<br />
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irCevs, an gadairCevs, rac ivaniSvilis<br />
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vinc gadawyvetilebebs iRebs,<br />
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am gadawyvetilebebze. Tu ivaniSvils<br />
politikuri moRvaweoba<br />
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aiRos, magram is swored am pasuxismgeblobas<br />
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oligarqiuli sistema moigona,<br />
sadac gadawyvetilebebs iRebs<br />
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wagebuli rCeba mxolod xalxi,<br />
xalxs ar aqvs aranairi saSualeba,<br />
gadairCios uvargisi gadawyvetilebis<br />
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vasac ar damasmevinebs.<br />
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ma arc am partiisa da arc blokis<br />
arsebobis Sesaxeb icoda.<br />
_ arc me vicodi, marTali<br />
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tiasTan bloki hqonda, rogorc<br />
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meti wevris yolis mizniT. rog-<br />
orc axla irkveva, Tavis droze,<br />
amave mizezebiT axsnes „evropul<br />
saqarTvelosTan” dablokebac,<br />
magram sainteresoa erTi ram _<br />
miiRo Tu ara analogiuri SeTavazeba<br />
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nisTanave gaCnda varaudebi, rom<br />
igi saarCevnod partiad iqceoda<br />
da blokSi vixilavdiT „naciona-<br />
lur moZraobasTan”. Tu bloki<br />
ase aucilebeli iyo, ratom gaxda<br />
saWiro wereTlis mamis par-<br />
tiasTan dablokeba da ar moxda<br />
es dablokeba sazogadoebisTvis,<br />
ase Tu ise, nacnob „iveriasTan”?<br />
_ „iverias” aseTi SeTavazeba ar<br />
miuRia. „iveria”, Tavisi arsiT, analitikuri<br />
centria da arc gvqonia<br />
miznad politikur partiad<br />
gadaqceva. Cveni platformis politikuri<br />
partia ukve arsebobda<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” saxiT<br />
da saWiro ar iyo amomrCevlis dabneva.<br />
amis gamo, gadamwyvet momentSi,<br />
me arCevnebSi monawileoba<br />
da farTo sazogadoebisTvis<br />
cnobili?<br />
_ diax, swored am problemebze<br />
vsaubrobdi. gaixseneT Cveni Zveli<br />
interviuebi, araerTxel gikiTxavT,<br />
_ emijnebiT „nacionalur<br />
moZraobas?” Cemi pasuxi iyo:<br />
„ara”. rasac mosdevda kiTxva: „ma-<br />
Sin, ratom ar xarT partiaSi?”<br />
yovelTvis vambobdi, rom partia<br />
saWiroebs Sinagan reformas, debiurokratizacias,<br />
rom saWiroa,<br />
partia gaxdes ufro horizontaluri,<br />
ufro gamWvirvale da ar<br />
marTavdes viwro jgufi. iyos meti<br />
CarTuloba, meti kavSiri xalxTan.<br />
am problemebze vsaubrobdi, ubralod,<br />
personaliebze ar vsaubrobdi.<br />
personaliebze axlac ar<br />
vsaubrob da arc visaubreb, radgan<br />
mTavaria, principebi. Tu partias<br />
gamarjveba surs, unda iyos<br />
maqsimalurad Ria, gaxsnili, axali<br />
ideebisTvis, axali xalxisTvis.<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba” unda<br />
gaxdes partia, romelic moZraobs.<br />
daWaobebuli ki araa, moZraobs,<br />
viTardeba, win midis, iRebs axal<br />
ideebs, aris TviTkritikuli, ar<br />
aris qedmaRluri. partias hqvia<br />
„erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />
da bolo wlebSi is aRarc erTiani<br />
iyo da aRarc moZraobda.<br />
_ jer es liderSips ar exeba,<br />
magram ukve gamoikveTa mavne ten-<br />
dencia. politsabWos dakompleqtebis<br />
Semdeg mxardamWerTa naw-<br />
ilma dasva kiTxva, Tu ratom ver<br />
Ti swori gzaa, rac yovelgvari<br />
problemis mogvarebas uwyobs<br />
xels. sxvanairad ar gamova. yvela<br />
kiTxvis dasmis ufleba aqvs yvelas,<br />
miT umetes, mxardamWers da<br />
Cven valdebuleba gvaqvs, am kiTxvebze<br />
pasuxi gavceT. politsabWo<br />
araa partiasTan urTierTobis er-<br />
TaderTi formati. politsabWos<br />
wevroba aucilebeli ar aris, isedac<br />
movusmenT yvelas. Cemi azriT,<br />
mosafiqrebelia amomrCevelTan,<br />
sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis<br />
kidev bevri formati. politsab-<br />
WosTan Seiqmneba sazogadoebrivi,<br />
saTaTbiro sabWo, sadac raodenobrivi<br />
SezRudva ar iqneba da yvelas<br />
SeeZleba monawileoba. uqmdeba<br />
samdivnoebi da maT nacvlad<br />
Seiqmneba mimarTulebebi. samdivnoebi<br />
dawyobil da xangrZlivi<br />
demokratiis qveynebSi SeiZleba,<br />
efeqtianicaa, magram CvenTan biurokratiul<br />
saxes iRebs da xdeba<br />
Caketili organizmi, garesamyaros<br />
wydeba. Seiqmneba mimarTulebebi<br />
da es mimarTulebebi imuSaveben<br />
sazogadoebis sxvadasxva<br />
jgufTan. partiis programa SemuSavdeba<br />
swored am mimdinareobebis<br />
muSaobis Sedegad _ xalxis<br />
azrisa da moTxovnebis gaTvaliswinebiT.<br />
amomrCevelTan urTier-<br />
Tobas vapirebT bevrad ufro mWirod,<br />
vidre odesme yofila. „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” ar SeiZleba<br />
warmarTon biurokratebma, is<br />
unda warmarTon politikosebma,<br />
romelTac mudmivad aqvT xeli<br />
pulsze da ician, ra awuxebs<br />
xalxs, raa mosagvarebeli. araformaluri<br />
mmarTvelobis garda,<br />
am qveyanas uamravi problema aqvs,<br />
romlis mogvareba axlave, am xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSivea Sesa-<br />
Zlebeli, igive sacobebis problema,<br />
romelic mTel qalaqs, saqar-<br />
Tvelos awuxebs. Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
problemaa sawyisi ganaTlebis<br />
sruli uvargisoba. sajaro<br />
skolebi aris katastroful mdgomareobaSi.<br />
aqedanve, am pirobeb-<br />
Sive unda vizrunoT am problemaze,<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi, identifikacia<br />
mainc movaxdinoT problemebis.<br />
Zalian didi problemaa<br />
energousafrTxoebis sivrceSi.<br />
ivaniSvilis dakveTiT, „gazpromTan”<br />
gaformda sruliad kabaluri<br />
xelSekruleba, romelic gaaZvirebs<br />
gazs da kidev ufro daum-<br />
Zimebs situacias Cvens moqalaqeebs.<br />
rac mTavaria, ruseTs zewolis<br />
axal berkets mianiWebs, romelic<br />
Zlivs CamovarTviT. wina xelSekruleba<br />
bevrad kargi iyo,<br />
Cvens teritoriaze rusuli gazis<br />
gatarebiT viRebdiT gazs, axla<br />
aviRebT fuls da am fuliT naklebi<br />
gazi mogviva, rac avtomaturad<br />
niSnavs imas, rom gazi gaZvirdeba,<br />
an unda moxdes isev subsidireba<br />
centraluri biujetidan<br />
da es fuli isev sxva sferoebs<br />
moakldeba. sabolod, gairkva,<br />
rasac vambobdiT, sayovelTao<br />
dazRveva ar aRmoCnda sicocxlisunariani,<br />
sergeenkom ukve Riad<br />
gamoacxada, rom rig klinikebSi<br />
aRar gavrceldeba sayovelTao<br />
dazRveva, radgan es klinikebi Sem-<br />
Cneuli arian korufciuli sqemebis<br />
gamoyenebaSi. es iyo moufiqreblad<br />
gakeTebuli populisturi<br />
programa, araTu CvenTvis, Zalian<br />
mdidari qveynebisTvisac ki Zalian<br />
Zviri programa da imTaviTve cxadi<br />
iyo, rom am programas xelisufleba<br />
didxans ver SeinarCunebda.<br />
uamravi problemaa, romelze<br />
muSaobac axlavea dasawyebi.<br />
_ yrilobas da politsabWos<br />
arCevis wess rom davubrundeT,<br />
kritikuli SeniSvnebi gamoiTqva<br />
politsabWos arCevis wesTan dak-<br />
avSirebiT. erTi mxriv, gasagebia,<br />
rom aseT mokle droSi SeuZlebeli<br />
iyo arCevis axali wesis Se-<br />
muSaveba da danergva, magram sain-<br />
teresoa sxva ram: axla, am piro-<br />
bebSi, roca partiaSi darCenili<br />
iyaviT Tanamoazreebi, am wesiT<br />
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dakompleqteba moxerxda, magram<br />
is jgufi rom ar gasuliyo<br />
partiidan, im SemTxvevaSi, ranair-<br />
adRa moxdeboda dakompleqteba,<br />
kvotebs gaiyofdiT?<br />
_ ver getyviT, maSin rogor<br />
moxdeboda, Znelia axla es Tqva...<br />
Cven principi aviReT aseTi, politsabWoSi<br />
Seyvanili iqnen is kandidatebi,<br />
romlebmac arCevnebze<br />
saukeTeso Sedegi aCvenes, aseve is<br />
xalxi, vinc kompetenturi wvlili<br />
Seitana am uTanasworo brZolaSi<br />
da visac aqvs politikuri saqmianobis<br />
gamocdileba. aseve regionuli<br />
organiziaciebi konferenciebiT<br />
airCeven TavianT warmomadgenlebs.<br />
aseve sabWoSi Sevida mxardamWerTa<br />
garkveuli raodenoba,<br />
romelmac konkretuli wvlili<br />
Seitana am procesSi.<br />
_ swored agan gaaCnina azrTa<br />
sxvadasxvaoba, Tu maTi wvlili wv-<br />
lili iyo, imaTi ar iyo? da a. S.<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, magram wyenis<br />
dro ar aris, aravis aravisi Rvawli<br />
ar gvaviwydeba, yvelas saerTo<br />
mizani unda gvamoZravebdes da<br />
yvelas erTi ram unda gvaerTianebdes,<br />
Cveni bedis Cvens xelSi<br />
aReba, Cveni qveynis myar poziciebze<br />
dabruneba. saqarTvelo gaqra<br />
saerTaSoriso rukidan, saqarTveloSi<br />
sufevs sruli socialuri<br />
anarqia, Zalian gaucxoebulia<br />
xalxi erTmaneTisgan, danaSaulma<br />
isev imata, dRe ar gadis, banki ar<br />
daayaCaRon, ar gaZarcvon da rame<br />
tragikuli SemTxveva ar moxdes,<br />
amas yvela win unda aRvudgeT. Tu<br />
davirazmebiT, ukeTesad cxovreba<br />
SegviZlia. Cven SegviZlia, bevrad<br />
kompetenturi xelisufleba<br />
gvyavdes da im xelisuflebisa da<br />
xalxis TanamSromlobiT bevrad<br />
gavaumjobesoT Cveni yoveldRiuri<br />
bednierebis xarisxi. patara<br />
qveyana varT, saqarTvelo ar aris<br />
ruseTi, an CineTi, rom misi reformireba<br />
Zneli iyos. miT umetes,<br />
Tu gaviTvaliswinebT qarTuli<br />
niWis unikalurobas. Cven es<br />
davamtkiceT, saqarTvelos hyavs<br />
msoflio donis varskvlavebi Ti-<br />
Tqmis yvela sferoSi. dRes es niWi<br />
sazRvargareT gaedineba, radgan<br />
aq ar aqvs asparezi. axalgazrdobis<br />
did nawils erTi suli aqvs,<br />
saqarTvelodan ucxoeTSi gadabargdes,<br />
rom iq ipovos asparezi,<br />
esaa tragedia. mTeli msofliodan<br />
Seikribnen ebraelebi, Cavidnen istoriul<br />
samSobloSi da, faqtobrivad,<br />
udabnoSi daaarses saxelmwifo,<br />
romelic dRes erT-erTi<br />
warmatebuli qveyanaa, Cven aseTi<br />
qveyana SegvinarCunes winaprebma<br />
da ra ufleba gvaqvs, dRes is<br />
qarTvelebisgan davcaloT? ra<br />
ufleba gvaqvs, SevqmnaT iseTi<br />
mavnebluri, gaveranebuli da ga-<br />
Canagebuli garemo, saidanac axalgazrdebi<br />
garbian? piriqiT, demokratiuli<br />
saqarTvelos Senebas<br />
unda mivuZRvnaT es Zalian didi<br />
niWi, romelic am erSi aris, magram<br />
am niWs sWirdeba asparezi, wvrTna.<br />
niWi TavisTavad ar iZleva rezultatebs,<br />
Tu disciplina ar axlavs.<br />
es disciplina unda movigonoT<br />
Cveni TavisTvis da msoflios<br />
is saswauli vaCvenoT, romelic<br />
SegviZlia, rom vaCvenoT.<br />
saqarTvelo aucileblad iqneba<br />
warmatebuli qveyana, Tu qarTuli<br />
niWi swori mimarTulebiT warimarTeba.<br />
Tu sawyisi ganaTleba<br />
gveqneba kargi, Tu erTmaneTs ki<br />
ar davWamT, aramed gadavalT<br />
Tematur debatebze, kamaTze, kamaTi<br />
kargia, magram ara principiT<br />
_ yvelaferi an araferi, unda viswavloT<br />
kompromisis xelovneba,<br />
unda viswavloT samoqalaqo solidaroba.<br />
yvelani unda aRvudgeT<br />
win qveynis daqucmacebas okupantis<br />
mier. yvelam unda igrZnos, rom<br />
maszea damokidebuli qveynis bedi,<br />
rom qveynis bedi wydeba aq da ara<br />
sadRac ucxo qveynebSi, kabineteb-<br />
Si. motivacia Tu gaizrdeba, Cven<br />
SevZlebT amas. Cven es SevZeliT!<br />
gaveranebuli, arSemdgari saxelmwifosgan<br />
saqarTvelo funqcionirebad<br />
saxelmwifod iqca, ratom?<br />
imitom, rom xalxi mobilizda da<br />
Camoyalibda sistema, gatarda reformebi,<br />
romelic samagaliToa<br />
ara marto ukrainisTvis, moldovisTvis,<br />
an danarCeni postsabWo-<br />
Ta sivrcisTvis, aramed uamravi<br />
sxva qveynisTvis. Cveni kabinetis<br />
warmomadgenlebi, rogorc reformebis<br />
mrCevlebi, muSaoben afrikis,<br />
aziis, samxreT amerikis<br />
qveynebSi. Zalian warmatebuli modeli<br />
gvqonda reformebisa da<br />
amiT mxolod vamayob, rogorc<br />
nawili am procesebis, magram es ar<br />
iyo sakmarisi. gakeTda Zalian bevri,<br />
magram win kidev metia gasakeTebeli.<br />
unda vkoncentrirdeT<br />
momavalze da momavali unda mivceT<br />
qarTul niWs, qarTul energias,<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />
potenciurad yvelaze ufro mniSvnelovan<br />
nawils, mis axalgazrdobas,<br />
romelic dRes frustrirebulia,<br />
da qveynidan wasvla<br />
unda, rac sruliad dauSvebelia.<br />
es gamoiwvia dRevandelma mmarTvelobam,<br />
es gamoiwvia im nihilizmma,<br />
romelic am wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
mizanmimarTulad iTeseboda<br />
xalxSi. es gamoiwvia rusulma<br />
propagandam, romelic gvarwmunebs,<br />
rom Cven araferi ar Segvi-<br />
Zlia, rom yovelTvis viRacaze<br />
Camokidebuli eri unda viyoT. es<br />
gamoiwvia ivaniSvilis ritorikam,<br />
rom saqarTvelo patara orRobea,<br />
patara sofelia da Cven did moTamaSeebs<br />
fexebSi ar unda gaveblandoT;<br />
es yvelaferi mavnebluri<br />
iluziebia, romlisganac<br />
droze unda gavTavisufldeT.<br />
_ batono nika, damTavrdeba<br />
Tu ara is ritorika, romelsac<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba” mimar-<br />
Tavda bolo 4 wlis manZilze,<br />
vgulisxmob dausrulebel bo-<br />
diSebis xdas, e. w. Tavze nacris<br />
yras.<br />
_ gulwrfel mobodiSebasa da<br />
daSvebuli Secdomis gakveTilad<br />
miRebaSi cudi araferia, saWiro<br />
da aucilebelicaa, magram bodiSebis<br />
farisevlurad moxda, Tavze<br />
marTla nacris yra uimedo saqme<br />
mgonia da araa Rirseuli. damazianebelicaa,<br />
rodesac bodiSi<br />
aragulwrfelia da raRacis gamo<br />
ixdi, maSinve TvalSi xvdeba yvelas,<br />
akompleqsebs Sensave mxardamWersac<br />
da eWvis baqteria<br />
Seaqvs jansaR sxeulSi. Tu saqmis<br />
keTeba da situaciis gaumjobeseba<br />
gvinda, veranairi bodiSi da<br />
reveransi, samsaxiobo ostatoba<br />
ver giSvelis, unda veZeboT problemebis<br />
mogvarebis gzebi, unda<br />
gaviazroT gaSvebuli SesaZleblobebi,<br />
rac unda gagvekeTebina<br />
da ver gavakeTeT. Tu Secdomebi<br />
iyo, im Secdomebis mizezebze<br />
vilaparakoT.<br />
_ me mgoni, ukve droa, „nacmoZraobam”<br />
9 wlis manZilze daSvebuli<br />
Secdomebi ki ara, is Sec-<br />
domebi gaaanalozos, rac bolo<br />
4 wlis manZilze dauSva.<br />
_ ra Tqma unda da dro movida,<br />
vilaparakoT momavalze, es TviTgvema<br />
aris ivaniSvilisa da rusuli<br />
propagandis miTSi nebayoflobiT<br />
Sesvla. ar unda SevideT maT<br />
SeTiTxnil miTSi. marTla vin gvelaparakeba<br />
da romel sisxlian 9<br />
weliwadze gvelaparakebian? esaa<br />
„efesbes” kabinetebSi mogonili,<br />
absoluturad yalbi kliSe, etiketi,<br />
romelic ar unda miviweboT.<br />
es 9 weliwadi iyo saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
mSeneblobis, winsvlis,<br />
reformebis urTulesi wlebi. im<br />
wlebSi uamravi raRac gakeTda,<br />
rac Zalian saamayoa saqarTvelosTvis,<br />
gakeTda bevrad meti kargi,<br />
vidre is Secdomebi, razec<br />
laparakia. nawili am Secdomebisa,<br />
ubralod, mogonili da tyuilia.<br />
is gadaWarbebebi da, zog SemTxvevaSi,<br />
danaSaulebi, romelic moxda<br />
Zalovnebis mxridan, gardauvalic<br />
iyo.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ imitom, rom saxelmwifos<br />
ararsebobis realobidan gadavdiodiT<br />
saxelmwifos Seqmnis realobaze.<br />
saxelmwifo ucbad ise<br />
gaZlierda, rom misgan Tavdacvis<br />
meqanizmebi amave siCqariT ar ga-<br />
Zlierda. da es abosluturad unikaluri<br />
gamocdilebaa, romelic<br />
maSin SeviZineT, amitom unda vicodeT,<br />
nebismieri Zalovani<br />
struqtura, Tu mas parlamentis<br />
Sesabamisi komitetebi kargad ar<br />
gaakontrolebs, aseT Secdomebs<br />
dauSvebs, an sruliad umoqmedobaSi<br />
gadavardeba, arc arafers<br />
gaakeTebs da arc Secdomebs dauSvebs,<br />
magram ar Seasrulebs Tavis<br />
valdebulebebs, rogorc dResaa.<br />
dRes Cveni kontrdazverva, dazverva<br />
absoluturad gadasulia<br />
Sidapolitikuri opoziciis kontrolze.<br />
dRes saqarTveloSi<br />
ruseTis specsamsaxurebi gajejilebuli<br />
arian. midis xalxis masobrivi<br />
rekrutireba, aTasi miTis<br />
Semogdeba, aTasi legendis gamogoneba,<br />
xalxis demotivizacia, rom<br />
ruseTis gareSe araferi moxdeba.<br />
ivaniSvilis xelisuflebam mTlianad<br />
gauxsna xel-fexi rusul<br />
propagandas, rusul specsamsaxurebs.<br />
aSS-s saprezidento arCevnebSic<br />
ki afaTurebs ruseTi xels<br />
da warmoidgineT, amerikaSi rom<br />
amas bedavs, saqarTveloSi ramdens<br />
gabedavs da bedavs kidec. amitom<br />
Secdomebze dausruleblad<br />
laparaks, sjobs, im Secdomebis,<br />
oRond namdvili da ara<br />
gamogonili Secdomebis, mizezebi<br />
gavaanalizoT, rom aRar ganmeordes.<br />
ara miTologiuri, aramed,<br />
racionaluri, logikuri azrovnebiT<br />
vifiqroT momavalze, rom<br />
qveyanas winsvla hqondes. dRes<br />
qveyana aris maCanCala saxelmwifod<br />
gadaqceuli, saqarTvelo<br />
dRes muSaobs inerciiT, es aris<br />
sruliad dauSvebeli, es aris<br />
sruliad gamanadgurebeli Cveni<br />
xvalindeli dRisTvis.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, SesaZlebe-<br />
lia Tu ara, arCevnebis gziT<br />
araformaluri mmarTvelobis<br />
dasruleba? esec xom ukve vnaxeT,<br />
arCevnebis gziT is xelisu-<br />
flebas ar Tmobs da SemdegSic<br />
yovelTvis gaayalbebs, an, bolos<br />
da bolos, wava da iyidis arCevnebs<br />
_ moisyidis damSeul mo-<br />
saxleobas.<br />
_ ar mimaCnia, rom arCevnebis<br />
gziT SeuZlebelia oligarqis<br />
damarcxeba, SeiZleba, Tu kargad<br />
imuSaveb. saWiroa muSaoba, bevri<br />
muSaoba xalxTan, saWiroa problemebis<br />
gadaWris gzebis povna,<br />
kargi programis SemuSaveba da am<br />
programis xalxisTvis gacnoba,<br />
maqsimalurad meti amomrCevlis<br />
mobilizeba arCevnebisTvis.<br />
_ Tu gagviyalbebs? gagviyal-<br />
ba kidec.<br />
_ partias unda ebrZola da<br />
daemtkicebina es gayalbeba. es<br />
partiam ar gaakeTa, swored im liderSipis<br />
qveS, romelic dRes gamoeyo<br />
partias da calke gavida.<br />
partiam unda daamtkicos, rom<br />
arCevnebi gayalbda, aCemebiT ar<br />
xdeba es, faqtebi unda dado, rom<br />
gagiyalbes. Tu xalxis nebis warTmevis<br />
mtkicebulebebi iarsebebs<br />
da gamoikveTeba, rom xelisuflebam<br />
borotad gamoiyena mdgomareoba,<br />
maSin, ra Tqma unda, xalxi xelaxal<br />
arCevnebs moiTxovs. Tu xelisufleba<br />
ar Caatarebs xelaxal<br />
arCevnebs, xalxi, ubralod, gayris<br />
maT. gamosavali yovelTvisaa. mTavaria,<br />
xalxma irwmunos Tavisi Zala,<br />
rom isaa sakuTari bedis gamgebeli.<br />
yvelanairi situaciis Secvla<br />
SeiZleba motivirebuli adamianebis<br />
xeliT. ubralod, dRes<br />
ivaniSvili Segnebulad nergavs nihilizms,<br />
rom Tqven araferi Segi-<br />
ZliaT, rom Tqvengan araferi gamova,<br />
da iqnebiT ase, mitovebuli<br />
orRobesaviT. Tu es kliSe miviReT,<br />
Zalian male marTla orRobed<br />
gadaviqceviT. amitom saWiroa momavalze<br />
fiqri. problemebis identifikacia,<br />
maTi gadaWris gzebis<br />
kargad mofiqreba da Semdeg xalxamde<br />
amis mitana. Tu amas warmatebulad<br />
movaxerxebT, aucileblad<br />
arCevnebis gziT, konstituciuri<br />
gziT Seicvleba xelisufleba.<br />
_ vadamdel arCevnebs gamor-<br />
icxavT?<br />
_ arafers gamovricxav imitom,<br />
rom oligarqiuli mmarTveloba<br />
Secdomebs Secdomebze uSvebs.<br />
„gazpromTan” gaformebuli kabaluri<br />
xelSekruleba maTi erTerTi<br />
didi Secdomaa da, rogorc<br />
Cans, isini gaagrZeleben amgvari<br />
da sxvagvari Secdomebis daSvebasac<br />
da xalxis moTmineba araa<br />
arc usazRvro, arc uvado. es<br />
saqarTveloa, saqarTvelo ver<br />
geyoleba mudmivad damorCilebuli.<br />
ase didxans ver gagrZeldeba<br />
da qarTuli sazogadoeba Tavis<br />
sityvas aucileblad ityvis. ityvis<br />
Rirseulad, mSvidobianad, da<br />
Zalian mtkiced. ivaniSvili saqar-<br />
Tvelos orRobed ver gadaaqcevs.<br />
qveynis orRobed qceva ar aris is<br />
perspeqtiva, romelsac qarTveli<br />
xalxi miiRebs da Seegueba. saqar-<br />
Tvelo unda iyos Tanamedrove,<br />
funqcionirebadi, evropuli qveyana,<br />
sadac aris Rirseba, siamaye,<br />
niWisTvis asparezi da sadac yoveldRiuri<br />
bednierebis xarisxi bevrad<br />
maRalia, vidre dRes.<br />
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daviT sergeenkos<br />
saqarTvelos Sromis, janmrTe-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
lobisa da socialuri dacvis am-<br />
Jamindeli ministri profesiiT<br />
bavSvTa da mozardTa kardioqirurgi da reanimatologia.<br />
misi komfortis zonis dasaTvaliereblad arc axalaSenebu-<br />
li da arc qalaqgared mdebare binisTvis mimikiTxavs. minis-<br />
trs, romelsac Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino universite-<br />
ti da bostonisa da berlinis samedicino saswavleblebi aqvs<br />
damTavrebuli, Tavis meuRlesTan da or SvilTan erTad<br />
saburTaloze, TamaraSvilis quCaze daudevs bina.<br />
ianvrisTvis Cveul, yinvian<br />
amindSi metro „delisamde” avtobuss<br />
avyevi, mxolod manqanebiT<br />
moZraoba imis saSualebas<br />
ar gaZlevs, rom socialuri<br />
iyo da xalxis azri gaigo. aTas<br />
rames mohkrav yurs am yviTel<br />
manqanaSi da es isaa, rasac sociumi<br />
namdvilad fiqrobs<br />
politikaze, jandacvasa da sxvadasxva<br />
sakiTxze... zustad ase-<br />
Ti saubrisTvis yuris dageba da<br />
Semdeg Sua gzaze Sewyveta momiwia,<br />
roca vake-saburTalos gamgeobis<br />
Senoba gaviareT da TamaraSvilis<br />
#15-s mivadeqiT.<br />
aq saburTalosTvis damaxasiaTebeli<br />
manqanebis gadatvirTuli<br />
moZraoba da mudmiv<br />
reJimSi momuSave SuqniSnebi<br />
isev mwyobrSi idga. mec „delisis”<br />
metromde arsebul gaCerebaze<br />
Camovedi, patiosani moqalaqisTvis<br />
damaxasiaTebeli<br />
qceviT bileTi nagvis urnaSi<br />
movaTavse da dabla, gamgeobisken<br />
Camovuyevi gzas, oRond,<br />
sapirispiro mxares.<br />
avejis, ramdenime wvrilmani<br />
da kuTxis maRaziis gavlis Semdeg<br />
korpusic vnaxe #15-is warweriT.<br />
aq xelmarcxniv Semovuxvie<br />
da korpusebs Soris dargul<br />
naZvis xeebs Soris mamakacebis<br />
xma rom Semomesma, maSinve mivxvdi,<br />
_ maTi asaki, daaxloebiT,<br />
dRevandeli statiis gmiris<br />
asakis toli iqneboda, Tan gavigebdi,<br />
konkretulad romel sadarbazosa<br />
da sarTulze cxovrobs<br />
b-ni daviTi. dauyovnebliv<br />
Sekrebili eqvsi mamakacisken<br />
gavemarTe, oTxi<br />
calke saubrobda, ori _ calke,<br />
Tumca, roca maTTan mivedi da<br />
yvelam erTad Semomxeda imwamsve<br />
Sewyvites saubari. mec es<br />
mindoda da saqmeze gadavedi:<br />
_ gamarjoba, „qronika+”-is<br />
Jurnalisti var, ministrebisa<br />
da sxva cnobadi saxeebis komfortis<br />
zonaze vwer. mainter-<br />
esebs, b-ni daviT sergeenko,<br />
konkretulad, romel korpus-<br />
Si cxovrobs?<br />
_ ai, iq, _ miTxres da Cem ukan<br />
mdebare korpusis meore sadarbazosken<br />
maniSnes xeliT.<br />
`saxlSi arc mosamsaxure hyavT da arc<br />
araferi, yvelafers TviTon akeTeben,<br />
TviTon recxavs meuRle, fens, Zalian<br />
ubralod cxovrobs. - vinmem rame rom<br />
sTxovos, avad iyos, an rame, ar arsebobs,<br />
rom ar dagakvalianos. Zalian uSualoa.<br />
xandaxan manqanas gauSvebs da TviTon<br />
centralur gzamde gava, gaCerdeba, an<br />
samarSruto taqsiSi Cajdeba, an taqsis<br />
gaaCerebs da imiT midis samsaxurSi~<br />
_ Tqven Tu icnobT? _ vkiTxe<br />
im maRal kacs, metad aqtiuri<br />
rom meCvena.<br />
_ ki, vicnob.<br />
_ rogoria urTierTobaSi,<br />
rogorc mezobeli?<br />
_ mSvenieri, kargi, salmiani<br />
biWia.<br />
_ anu gesalmebaT xolme?<br />
_ diax, diax, magari kargi kacia.<br />
ara, kargi biWia, kaci ki ara.<br />
ager, mis karis mezobels daelaparakeT,<br />
_ miTxra am aqtiurma<br />
mamakacma da oTxidan erT-er-<br />
Tisken mimiTiTa. mec masTan gadavinacvle<br />
da imave kiTxviT<br />
mivmarTe:<br />
_ batoni daviTi rogoria,<br />
rogorc mezobeli? rogori<br />
adamiania?<br />
_ kargi adamiania.<br />
_ xedavT xolme xSirad?<br />
_ Zalian dakavebulia, Tu<br />
SevxvdebiT, wasvlisas an mosvlisas,<br />
Tan gvian modis xolme.<br />
_ gadmodis mezoblebTan?<br />
_ ara, ise mimosvlisTvis ar<br />
aqvs dro.<br />
_ gmadlobT, _ vuTxari da<br />
sadarbazosken gadavinacvle.<br />
pirvelsaveSi Sevedi da ukve<br />
meore sarTulze viyavi asuli,<br />
roca Tavad sergeenkos karis<br />
mezoblis xma momesma:<br />
_ gogoni, es ara, meore sadarbazoa<br />
amis gverdiT.<br />
_ ui, gmadlobT, _ vuTxari da<br />
swrafad Camovirbine kibeebze.<br />
_ ai, is binaa misi, kondicioneri<br />
rom ayenia gareT, _ mimiTiTa.<br />
isev madloba gadavuxade da<br />
amjerad swori misamarTiT wavedi,<br />
Cveulebrivi 9-sarTuliani<br />
binis sadarbazo iyo, yovelgvari<br />
yvavilebisa da qviTrebis<br />
Casalageblis gareSe (wina gmirebisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT). oRond<br />
lifti iyo cota gansxvavebuli,<br />
nacrisferi kari unda gamoge-<br />
Ro, romelsac nasvretebi hqonda<br />
da liftSi Sediodi.<br />
pirvel sarTulze qera, axalgazrda<br />
qalma gamiRo kari.<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti<br />
var, gazeT „qronika+”-dan, baton<br />
daviT sergeenkos komfor-<br />
tis zonaze vwer. mainteresebs,<br />
Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ar vici.<br />
_ anu arc ginaxavT aq da ar<br />
iciT, vin aris?<br />
_ jandacvis ministrze melaparakebiT?<br />
_ diax, diax.<br />
_ ho, am sadarbazoSi cxovrobs.<br />
_ ginaxavT Tqven TviTon?<br />
_ ki, minaxavs ise, aq rom cxovrobs<br />
vici, magram piradad ar<br />
vicnob, axali gadmosuli var am<br />
binaSi.<br />
_ gasagebia, gmadlobT.<br />
axla zeda sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />
Sua karze zaris darekvis<br />
Semdeg igi Suaxnis qalbatonma<br />
gamiRo, odnav xuWuWa Tma,<br />
saTvale da sandomiani saxe hqonda.<br />
masac imave kiTxviT mivmarTe,<br />
romliTac pirvel sarTulze<br />
mcxovreb qalbatons, icnobda<br />
Tu ara sergeenkos?<br />
_ ki, Zalian kargi kacia, koreqtuli,<br />
umaRlesi donis,<br />
zrdili da ganaTlebuli.<br />
_ e. i. icnobT?<br />
_ ki, Cemi ZmisSvilic Zalian<br />
axlos icnobs da iqidanac vici.<br />
_ gmadlobT, es maintereseb-<br />
da.<br />
am qalbatonis karis mezobelTan<br />
gadavinacvle da karze<br />
dakakunebisas, viRac, 4-5 wlis<br />
bavSvis xmiT da enis moCleqiT<br />
gamomexmaura.<br />
_ vin gnebavT?<br />
_ ufrosebi ar arian?<br />
_ ara, _ mipasuxa da gaiqca,<br />
fexebis bakunis xma gavigone.<br />
Semdeg sarTulze mxolod<br />
mesame karze (qvemodan maRla<br />
asvlisas) kakunis Semdeg mipasuxes:<br />
_ vin gnebavT?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var, oriode<br />
kiTxva maqvs TqvenTan, Tu Sei-<br />
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Zleba.<br />
_ ar var Cacmuli.<br />
_ moicviT rame, araa problema,<br />
ramdenime wams wagarT-<br />
mevT mxolod.<br />
_ ho, magram me mciva (Tqva da<br />
gauCinarda).<br />
wamosvlis garda sxva gza ar<br />
damrCenoda. Semdeg sarTulze<br />
gadavedi, aqac mxolod mesame<br />
karTan gamimarTla da zaris<br />
darekvis Semdeg mipasuxes:<br />
_ vin aris?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var, oriode<br />
kiTxva maqvs, Tu SeiZleba.<br />
kari 16-17 wlis biWma gamiRo:<br />
_ gamarjoba, mobrZandiT.<br />
_ ara, gmadlobT, ubralod,<br />
mainteresebs, daviT sergeen-<br />
kos Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ara.<br />
_ arc ginaxavT aq arasdros?<br />
_ ki, naxviT minaxavs, magram<br />
ar vicnob.<br />
_ kargi gmadlobT.<br />
Semdeg sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />
aq ukve yavisfer kars mivakakune,<br />
karga xans mesmoda,<br />
rom viRac karTan mosvlas cdilobda<br />
da Zlivs, neli nabijebiT<br />
modioda. kari Sua xnis mamakacma<br />
gaaRo:<br />
_ gamarjoba, daviT sergeen-<br />
kos Tu icnobT?<br />
_ arc ise kargad, TiTqmis<br />
ara.<br />
_ ise, ginaxavT aq?<br />
_ ki, ise garedan Semixedavs.<br />
_ gesalmebaT xolme?<br />
_ ar vicnob da amitom iSviaTad,<br />
Torem ise ki minaxavs.<br />
_ kargi, didi madloba.<br />
Tqvens zemo sarTulze cx-<br />
ovrobs, xom?<br />
_ ki, ki, zemoTaa.<br />
_ gmadlobT.<br />
axla sapirispiro mxares gadavinacvle<br />
da RilakisTvis<br />
unda dameWira xeli, romelic<br />
zaris xmas gamoscemda da<br />
uknidan xma momesma:<br />
_ iqiTac igivea Svilo, Cven<br />
erTi ojaxi varT.<br />
_ kargiT-meTqi, _ vuTxari da<br />
zemoT sarTulze gadavinacvle,<br />
aq samive binis kars foto gadavuRe<br />
da erTi sarTuliT zemoT<br />
avedi, kari aravin gamiRo, amis<br />
zeda sarTulzec igive miTxres,<br />
rom Soridan hyavdaT nanaxi da<br />
Tvali mokruli, magram Tavad<br />
ar icnobdnen, amitom qvemoT<br />
Camovedi. gzad isev vakakunebdi<br />
im karebze, romlebic ramdenime<br />
wuTis win ar gamiRes, iqneb, axla<br />
mainc gamimarTlos da mipasuxon-meTqi,<br />
magram amaod.<br />
ezoSi Camovedi, sadac mamakacebis<br />
Sekreba iyo, axla ori maTganiRa<br />
SemorCeniliyo, erTi _<br />
swored is karis mezobeli,<br />
romelmac damakvaliana. Cemken<br />
gamoixedes da mekiTxebian:<br />
_ aba, ra qeni, naxe?<br />
_ diax, rac maintersebda,<br />
gavige. uSualod b-n daviTs ar<br />
Sevxvedrivar.<br />
_ gasagebia.<br />
_ kidev rames xom ar metyo-<br />
diT masze, rogorc mezobelze,<br />
rame Sekrebaze Tu dadis xol-<br />
me?<br />
komfortis zona<br />
_ ki, Svilo, panaSvidi Tua<br />
vinmesi, maSin Semodis da gverdiT<br />
gvidgas xolme, Torem axla<br />
CvenTan rom dadges gareT da<br />
gvesaubros, egre araa.<br />
_ anu msgavsi SemTxvevebis<br />
dros gadmodis xolme?<br />
_ diax, diax Zalian ubralo<br />
ojaxia, meuRlec iseTia, ubralo<br />
da uSualo urTierTobaSi.<br />
saubarSi meore mamakaci Cae-<br />
rTo:<br />
_ saxlSi arc mosamsaxure<br />
hyavT da arc araferi, yvelafers<br />
TviTon akeTeben, Tvi-<br />
Ton recxavs meuRle, fens,<br />
Zalian ubralod cxovrobs.<br />
_ vinmem rame rom sTxovos,<br />
avad iyos, an rame, ar arsebobs,<br />
rom ar dagakvalianos. Zalian<br />
uSualoa. xandaxan manqanas gauSvebs<br />
da TviTon centralur<br />
gzamde gava, gaCerdeba, an samarSruto<br />
taqsiSi Cajdeba, an<br />
taqsis gaaCerebs da imiT midis<br />
samsaxurSi. ori gogona hyavs,<br />
studentebi arian da saswavleblad<br />
dadian, magram maTac iSviaTad<br />
vxedavT.<br />
_ rame istoria xom ar gada-<br />
gxdeniaT erTad?<br />
_ rame iseTi gansakuTrebuli,<br />
gasarTobi ara, magram ai,<br />
Cvens Zmakacs daexmara RviZlis<br />
gadanergvaSi, dRes is, faqtobrivad,<br />
cocxalia.<br />
Cveni mezobeli Tavidan Zalian<br />
cudad iyo da vTxoveT, _<br />
gvikvdeba, 60 000 aqvT da mcire<br />
nawili akldebaTo. _ sabuTebi<br />
moitaneT CemTano. miutanes.<br />
bevri ram moagvara, dRes gadarCenilia,<br />
cocxalia da kargadaa<br />
Cveni mezobeli.<br />
vinc mivida, yvelas daexmara<br />
da uTanagrZno.<br />
_ ase gidgaT xolme gver-<br />
diT?<br />
_ ki, ki sul. Tan Zalian ubraloa,<br />
aseTi ministri rom iyos<br />
yvela, kargad iqneboda Cveni<br />
saqme.<br />
amasobaSi, sanam Cven vsaubrobdiT,<br />
maRali, Savi paltoTi da<br />
qudiT mamakaci movida, etyoboda,<br />
raRac avtoritetiT sargeblobda<br />
mezoblebSi da orivem<br />
am axalmosulisken gamaxeda, _<br />
ai, am kacs hkiTxe, rogoria Cveni<br />
ministrio, Tan erT-erTma<br />
auxsna, _ Jurnalistia „qronika+”-dan<br />
da daviT sergeenkoze<br />
wers, ainteresebs, rogori mezobeliao.<br />
_ Zalian kargi, Zalian gviyvars<br />
da vafasebT, wesieri kacia.<br />
_ miTxres, rom uSualo ad-<br />
amiania.<br />
_ diax, diax namdvilad.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT, Tqven<br />
yvelas, bednieri dRe.<br />
_ aseve Tqvenc, velodebiT<br />
statias, _ miTxres da mec wamovedi.<br />
ukan ise ver davbrundebodi,<br />
Cvens gmirze oriode sityva ubnis<br />
maRaziis gamyidvelebisgan<br />
ar gamego, amitom sanam uSualod<br />
am mosaxvevSi Semovidodi da<br />
korpusebs davaTvalierebdi,<br />
manamde erT-erTi maRazia Seviguliane<br />
da Tu ambebi ministris<br />
ubraloebaze mTlad miTi ar<br />
iyo, maSin safuZvliani eWvi arsebobda,<br />
rom igi, an misi ojaxis<br />
wevrebi swored am maRaziaSi dadiodnen<br />
produqtebis sayidlad.<br />
kuTxis marketis karis SeRebisas<br />
sakmaod bevri xalxi damxvda,<br />
rasac namdvilad ar velodi,<br />
magram mTavari is iyo, rom<br />
salarosTanac bevri xalxi iyo<br />
da konsultantic _ dakavebuli,<br />
Tumca vifiqre, rom rigSi dgoma<br />
ramdenime kiTxvis gamo, ubralod,<br />
ar Rirda, amitom, Sei-<br />
Zleba, cota „Tavxeduradac”,<br />
magram mainc molare gogonas-<br />
Tan mivedi gverdidan.<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti<br />
var, mainteresebs, baton daviT<br />
sergeenkos Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ministrs?<br />
_ diax, diax.<br />
_ uSualod ara, magram Soridan<br />
vicnob, vici, vinc aris.<br />
_ aq Semodis xolme?<br />
_ TviTon ara, meuRle da<br />
Svilebi Semodian.<br />
_ gasagebia, gmadlobT.<br />
am gogonas saSualeba miveci,<br />
Tavisi saqme gaegrZelebina da<br />
axla konsultantTan gadavinacvle.<br />
es Suaxnis asakis SavTmiani<br />
qali iyo. masac igive vuTxari,<br />
_ Jurnalisti var da informacia<br />
maintersebs sergeenkoze,<br />
rogori adamiani da momxmarebelia,<br />
ramdenad xSirad ginaxavT<br />
da dadis Tu ara Tqven-<br />
Tan- meTqi?<br />
erTi amreziT ki Semomxeda,<br />
magram mipasuxa:<br />
_ ra vici, TviTon ar dadis,<br />
magram col-Svili dadis xolme<br />
CvenTan, Cveulebrivi urTier-<br />
Toba gvaqvs, rogorc momsaxure<br />
personals da momxmarebels,<br />
gansakuTrebuli araferi.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT, _ vuTxari<br />
da gamovedi.<br />
karTan ar viyavi misuli,<br />
roca am SavTmian kolsuntant-<br />
Tan meore gogona mivida, isic<br />
imave maRaziis TanamSromeli da<br />
Cemze hkiTxa:<br />
_ rao, ra mindao, ra Tqva?<br />
_ ra vici me, viRac sergeenkoo<br />
da rogoria urTierTobaSio.<br />
_ aaah, gasagebia, _ upasuxa<br />
meorem.<br />
am dros kari gamovixure da<br />
gamovedi. gzad isev is Sesaxvevi<br />
gaviare, sadac Cveni dRevandeli<br />
gmiri Tavmdablurad da ubralod<br />
cxovrobs (yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
rogorc mezoblebma<br />
Tqves).<br />
saxlSi Suqi enTo (moRrublul<br />
amindSi SegeZlo garCeva,<br />
rom enTo), sadarbazosTan bevri<br />
naZvis xe idga (Tavs davdeb, rom<br />
axlac dgas).<br />
maS, ase! Sromis, janmrTelobisa<br />
da socialuri dacvis ministris<br />
komfortis zona aris<br />
saburTalo, TamaraSvilis quCa,<br />
mSvidi Cixi, sadac naZvis xeebi<br />
maradmwvanoben.<br />
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vawe, iulon gagoSiZe, romelic<br />
2008-2009 wlebSi diasporis sak-<br />
iTxebSi saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />
ministrad muSaobda.<br />
_ batono iulon, arqeologi<br />
rogor moxvdiT xelisuflebaSi,<br />
rogorc diasporis saxelmwifo<br />
ministri? ramdenad mniSvnelovani<br />
iyo am saministros arseboba?<br />
_ es mixeil saakaSvilma gadawyvita,<br />
2008 wlis ianvarSi damibara<br />
da miTxra, amas vapireb da ifiqreo.<br />
davTanxmdi! axla es uwyeba aRar<br />
arsebobs, sagareo saqmeTa saministros<br />
SeuerTes. praqtikulad, marto<br />
viyavi, ministris aparati me<br />
Sevqmeni. am saministros arseboba<br />
mniSvnelovani iyo, jer erTi, imitom,<br />
rom, mogexsenebaT, bolo sami<br />
aTeuli wlis ganmavlobaSi Zalian<br />
bevri adamiani gavida saqarTvelodan,<br />
ZiriTadad, Sromisunariani<br />
xalxi, romelmac aq ver naxa samuSao.<br />
ar vilaparakeb imaze, xelovnebis<br />
muSakebi da mecnierebi<br />
rom wavidnen. aseT xalxs patronoba<br />
sWirdeboda, isini Zalian did<br />
rols TamaSobdnen saqarTvelosTvis,<br />
faqtobrivad, qveyana Sim-<br />
Sils gadaarCines. 2008-2009 wleb-<br />
Si, rodesac iq vmuSaobdi, maTgan<br />
qveyanaSi, yovelwliurad, miliardamde<br />
dolari Semodioda da Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovani wvlili SehqondaT<br />
qveynis ekonomikaSi. kacma<br />
rom Tqvas, diaspora amaze cota<br />
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muzeumi da yvelaferi CvenTan<br />
modioda. SesaZeni Tanxebic iyo,<br />
axla muzeums fuli ar aqvs, Raribi<br />
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fuli ar aris da uamravi masala<br />
ikargeba, magram inerciiT mainc<br />
moaqvT CvenTan. amitom vTavazob<br />
aseT rames: Seiqmnas patara jgufi,<br />
romelSic gaerTiandeba gemologi,<br />
romelic Tvlebze muSaobs; qimiko-<br />
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da saxsovrad waiRos. amitom momzadeba<br />
sWirdeba, amis gamocdileba<br />
evropaSi, klasikur qveynebSi<br />
aris: saberZneTi, italia; am mxriv<br />
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am qveynebSi evropeli da<br />
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bolo 200 wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
axla Sewyvetilia, Tanxebic gan-<br />
Tavisuflda da samecniero personalic.<br />
saqarTvelo da kavkasia<br />
wina aziis nawilia da swored wina<br />
aziaSi daibada msoflio civilizacia.<br />
es aris, faqtobrivad, samSoblo<br />
yvela civilizebuli qveynisTvis,<br />
SeerTebuli Statebidan<br />
dawyebuli, Soreul aRmosavle-<br />
Tamde. amitom yvela Cvenken<br />
iswrafvis. Cven axla gansakuTrebul<br />
mdgomareobaSi varT, faqtobrivad,<br />
es xom maTTvis daketili<br />
teritoria iyo, axla Tavisuflad<br />
SeuZliaT Semosvla. finansebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT problema ar iqneba,<br />
neba rom mivceT. Camovidnen da<br />
qarTvel mecnierebTan erTad aq<br />
imuSaon. rogorc aRvniSne, amisTvis<br />
saWiroa momzadeba, unda Seiqm-<br />
misi arseboba dadasturda. es namosaxlari<br />
ar iyo cnobili, yor-<br />
Ranebi ki Sua brinjaos ufro<br />
mogviano xanis, meore aTaswleulisaa<br />
qristeSobamde. 2014 wlis<br />
maisSi Cinurma kompaniam licenzia<br />
moipova inertuli masalis mosapoveblad,<br />
romelsac gzaze yrian,<br />
tkepnian da mere zemodan betons<br />
asxamen. inertuli masalis mosapoveblad<br />
zedapirs gadawmenden,<br />
niadags xsnian da asawyobeben, radgan<br />
valdebulebi arian, ukan dayaron,<br />
mis qveS arsebul Tixas da<br />
konglomerats iReben, gzaze yrian<br />
da tkepnian, mere niadagis fena<br />
isev ukan unda dayaron da rekultivacia<br />
Caataron. amis damuSavebis<br />
nebarTva misces, daaxloebiT<br />
heqtarnaxevari gamouyves. ivnisSi<br />
ukve Sematyobines, rom angrevdnen.<br />
wavedi, vnaxe, avtexe ambavi, Sevatyobine<br />
ZeglTa dacvis saagentos da<br />
gaaCeres, magram rodesac daangreven,<br />
kanoniT isini valdebulebi<br />
arian, Tanxa gamoyon imis Sesaswavlad,<br />
rac gaafuWes. amaze Cinelebma<br />
uari ganacxades da Tqves,<br />
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mainc davwere werili da axlad<br />
daniSnul kulturis ministrs gavugzavne,<br />
mis winamorbedTan ukve<br />
gagzavnili mqonda. rodesac saydrisi<br />
aafeTqes, gaxsovT, rogor<br />
moxda _ werili gaigzavna saministroSi<br />
da erTi dRe-Ramis ganmavlobaSi<br />
moxerxda am werilis gadagzavna<br />
ZeglTa dacvis erovnul<br />
saagentoSi, iq axali sabWo Seiqmna,<br />
romelmac dadgenileba gamoitana,<br />
rom is Zegli ar aris da kulturis<br />
saministros ukan daubrunda.<br />
saministrom ki kompanias Seatyobina<br />
da erT dReSi moxda es ambavi.<br />
Jurnalistebma amis Sesaxeb kiTxva<br />
dasves, erT-erTma maTganma Cemi<br />
gancxadeba aufriala, _ ager 4<br />
Catareba? es berikldeebic am werilSi<br />
maqvs naxsenebi. ratom vaxsene,<br />
isic ar vici, radgan trasis gada-<br />
Rma iyo, mainc vTqvi, rom aq aseTi<br />
rame iyo. roca mivediT, gairkva,<br />
rom, Turme, karierze muSaoba ar<br />
SeuCerebiaT. pirvelad gacemuli<br />
nebarTva, romel adgilzec iyo,<br />
Zirianad moTxrili dagvxvda da<br />
axal teritoriaze muSaobdnen, axlac<br />
gaSiSvlebulia 8000 kv.m., daaxloebiT<br />
2 ha mTlianad moTxrilia.<br />
amis Sesaxeb Zieba daiwyo da axlac<br />
mimdinareobs. dagviZaxes,<br />
policiamac akrifa iq masala, samxaraulis<br />
centrSi eqspertizaze<br />
uari Tqves. radgan arqeologia<br />
iyo, muzeumSi gamoagzavnes, vnaxeT,<br />
IV aTaswleulis dasawyisi iyo da<br />
Sua brinjaos xana. Zveli aerofotoebi<br />
gvaqvs, 50-ian wlebSi gakeTebuli,<br />
sadac kargad Cans es yor-<br />
Ranebi, romelic axla aRar arsebobs.<br />
ras izam!..<br />
_ rogori midgoma unda<br />
hqondes saxelmwifos aseTi sak-<br />
iTxebisadmi?<br />
_ saxelmwifo unda mixvdes, rom<br />
es aris qveynisTvis saWiro saqme da<br />
ara fufuneba. kulturuli memkvidreoba<br />
da bunebis Zeglebi patara<br />
qveynebSi ZiriTadi Semosavlis<br />
wyaroa. magaliTad, italiaSi arqeologiidan<br />
Semosavali, Tu ar<br />
vcdebi, meore adgilzea, ra Tqma<br />
unda, turizmis meSveobiT. turists<br />
SeuZlia naxos uZravi Zegli,<br />
aseve muzeumSi gadatanili nimuSebi.<br />
teritoria, sadac uZravi Zeglia,<br />
ise unda moewyos, rom turistma<br />
ar gaanadguros. turizmi, am<br />
TvalsazrisiT, saxifaToc aris.<br />
amis garda, SeuZlia, gaTxrebs<br />
daeswros da mesame _ turisti ixdis<br />
Tanxas da gaTxrebSi monawileobs.<br />
rodesac israelSi vmuSaobdi,<br />
evropidan 14 kaci iyo Camosuli,<br />
N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />
lobaSi, romelmac Tavisi daRi<br />
daasva Cvens fsiqologias da mTel<br />
mosaxleobas, axla ki demokratiuli<br />
Tavisufali sazogadoeba unda<br />
avaSenoT. gardamaval periodSi<br />
yvelgan xdeba, magaliTad, TurqeTSi<br />
70-iani wlebis Semdeg rom<br />
areuloba iyo, iq centraluri<br />
TurqeTi gaiZarcva, uZvelesi civilizaciebi<br />
iyo mcire aziaSi da<br />
didi ganZi gavida qveynis gareT.<br />
sabednierod, „metropoliten<br />
muzeumma” didi koleqciebi SeiZina,<br />
TurqeTi mainc Zlieri qveyanaa<br />
da es ganZi 90-ian wlebSi ukan<br />
daibruna, magram ramdeni informacia<br />
daikarga?! igive ambavi moxda<br />
iranSi, rodesac revolucia moxda,<br />
iqac Savma arqeologiam imuSava da,<br />
sabolood, arqeologiuri samuSaoebi<br />
aikrZala. iaponiaSi Seiqmna<br />
uzarmazari muzeumi aqedan<br />
waRebuli nivTebiT. analogiuri<br />
viTareba Seiqmna saqarTveloSi.<br />
Cven gvaqvs ori Savi xvreli _ afxazeTi<br />
da samaCablo, sadac upatronod<br />
aris yvelaferi da gaedineba.<br />
kidev erTi ubedurebaa _ bazarze<br />
saqarTvelos saxeliT ki ar<br />
gadis, aramed ruseTis! momavalSic<br />
Tu gamovlinda da am masalam muzeumebSi<br />
daivana, is veRar gamodgeba<br />
qveynis istoriisTvis, Cveni<br />
aRar iqneba, radgan sxvisi saxeliT<br />
gaiyida da iyideba dResac,<br />
magram danarCen saqarTveloSic ar<br />
aris ukeTesi situacia. mimdinareobs<br />
ukontrolo gaTxrebi da amas<br />
kvebavs bazari. axlac rom gaxvideT<br />
„mSral xidze”, arqeologia<br />
iyideba. me, rasakvirvelia, ar<br />
maCveneben, radgan saxeze mcnoben,<br />
magram namdvilad iyideba da internetSic<br />
devs xolme. aSkaraa,<br />
qarTuli masalebi ucxoeTSi gadis<br />
da, rogorRac, gatanas axerxeben.<br />
sanam sabaJos reforma gatardebo-<br />
si, romelic liTonebs gansazRvravs;<br />
arqeologi, eTnologi,<br />
saTanado aRWurvilobiT unda gamoiyos<br />
adgili, rodesac Semova niv-<br />
Ti, daitoveben, mis eqspertizas<br />
gaakeTeben, sertifikati mieniWeba<br />
da Tavisi fasiT daideba internetSi,<br />
drodadro moewyoba auqcioni.<br />
es auqcioni SeiZleba iyos<br />
saxelmwifo, SeiZleba kerZoc, magram<br />
unda iyos oficialuri. am<br />
dros mogebuli rCeba gamyidveli,<br />
imitom, rom maqsimums miiRebs; myidveli,<br />
imitom, rom gadarCeba siyalbisgan.<br />
bazarSi uamravi yalbis<br />
mqmneli gaCnda, xSirad iseTi niv-<br />
Tebia, specialisti Znelad Tu gaarCevs<br />
originalisgan. arqeologiur<br />
nivTs aqvs ucnauri Tviseba,<br />
misi Rirebuleba da fasi arasodes<br />
iklebs, piriqiT, wlidan wlamde<br />
rac ufro Zvelia, miT ufro izrdeba.<br />
saxelmwifoc mogebuli rCeba,<br />
radgan anaricxebi biujetSi<br />
wava. garda amisa, mecnierebac iqneba<br />
mogebuli. kidev erTi ram _<br />
arseboben koleqcionerebi. Cvens<br />
ZeglTa dacvis kanonSi isini naxsenebic<br />
ar arian. kerZo koleqcionerobas<br />
aravin krZalavs, magram<br />
maT arc dacva aqvT da naxevrad<br />
legalur situaciaSi arian.<br />
ratom unda iyos ase? kerZo<br />
koleqciebic unda daicvas saxelwifom,<br />
iseve rogorc samuzeumo<br />
koleqciebi. kerZo muzeumebi Sei-<br />
Zleba arsebobdes, magram saxelmwifosgan<br />
dacva imasac sWirdeba.<br />
minda, kidev erT rameze gavamaxvilo<br />
yuradReba _ romelime arqeologiuri<br />
Zegli turistul<br />
obieqtebad rom iqces, imas<br />
winaswar momzadeba sWirdeba. ZeglisTvis<br />
ukontrolo turizmi<br />
iseve saSiSia, rogorc ukontrolo<br />
gaTxrebi. jer erTi, fexiTac nadgurdeba,<br />
magram adamians aseTi<br />
nas infrastruqtura, rom arqeologebs<br />
dasaxleba SeeZloT da<br />
muSaxelic Cven unda uzrunvelvyoT,<br />
fuls isini gadaixdian. samuSao<br />
adgilebic Seiqmneba. turistuli<br />
obieqtebi saCveneblad unda<br />
momzaddes. SemoRobvaa saWiro,<br />
SigniT gzebis gakeTeba, romlidanac<br />
gadasvla ar SeiZleba, sapirfareSoebi<br />
mainc unda iyos agebuli,<br />
dasasvenebeli adgilebi, kvebis<br />
obieqtebi, adgilobrivi mosaxleoba,<br />
albaT, iq suvenirebis maRaziasac<br />
gaxsnis. ramdenime obieqti,<br />
met-naklebad, kargad aris mowyobili,<br />
magaliTad, ufliscixe,<br />
bagineTi, dmanisi, noqalaqevi, gonio,<br />
gremi, magram ukeTesadac Sei-<br />
Zleba mowyoba. ufliscixe bevrad<br />
kargad aris mowyobili, vidre sxva<br />
obieqti, magram iqac aris saxifa-<br />
To adgilebi, sadac SeiZleba, adamiani<br />
gadavardes, moajirebia<br />
saWiro. saukuneebis winaT gamoTxrili<br />
qvis safexurebi cvdeba da<br />
mofrTxleba unda. amis gamocdileba<br />
msoflioSi arsebobs, mini-<br />
Tac SeiZleba SeifuTos, rom Tan<br />
Candes da Tan Seinaxos. sul vfiqrob<br />
amaze _ ufliscixis gadaRma<br />
aris Zveli nasoflari, romelic<br />
axlaxan daicala. XX saukunis dasawyisSi<br />
aSenebuli saxlebia, romlis<br />
SekeTeba SeiZleba da sastumroebad<br />
gadakeTeba. ufliscixe iseT<br />
adgilas aris, iq Tu kaci RamisTeviT<br />
gaCerda, aqedan mravali<br />
sxva mniSvnelovani Zeglis daTvaliereba<br />
SeuZlia, magaliTad, atenis<br />
xeobaSi. sastumroSi darCenil<br />
turists saTanado momsaxureba<br />
xom sWirdeba?! maTTvisac samuSao<br />
adgilia, im saxlebs kerZo mflobelebi<br />
hyavs, SesaZlebelia, saxelmwifo<br />
sesxiT daexmaros, aRdges<br />
es saxlebi da sabolood, yvela<br />
mogebuli darCeba.<br />
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daviT dvali _ quTaisis<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomare:<br />
_ Tu parlamenti TbilisSi<br />
unda gadavides, maSin quTaiss<br />
sxva Rirseuli alternativa<br />
unda SevTavazoT, unda ganvix-<br />
xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />
gasul SabaT-kviras quTaisis mosaxleobis erT nawilSi<br />
mediasaSualebebiT gavrcelebulma informaciam vnebaTaRelva<br />
gamoiwvia. mizezi „saqarTvelos patriotTa aliansis” wevris,<br />
parlamentar ada marSanias gancxadeba gaxda, romelic sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebis komisiaSi miRweul SeTanxmebas exeboda<br />
da romliTac, TiTqos, parlamentis quTaisidan Tbilis-<br />
Si gadatanis Sesaxeb poziciebi Sejerebulia.<br />
marSanias TqmiT, parlamenti<br />
dedaqalaqSi imuSavebs da es<br />
moxdeba maSin, roca konstituciaSi<br />
Sesabamisi cvlileba ganxorcieldeba.<br />
deputati xazs<br />
usvams, rom sakonstitucio<br />
organos gadatanis winaaRmdegi<br />
aravinaa da SeTanxmeba miRweulia.<br />
winasaarCevno kampaniis<br />
dros „qarTuli ocnebis” maJo-<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
eba. sayuradReboa isic,<br />
rom, Tavis droze,<br />
deputatebis cxovrebis<br />
xarjebis Semcirebis<br />
mizniT, wyaltubos<br />
erT-erT ubanSi sastumros tipis<br />
korpusebis ageba igegmeboda,<br />
rac 2012 wlis Semdeg ganuxorcielebeli<br />
darCa.<br />
quTaisSi sakanonmdeblo organos<br />
srulfasovnad funqcionirebis<br />
momxreebi miiCneven,<br />
rom qalaqisTvis saparlamento<br />
dedaqalaqis statusis<br />
SenarCuneba investiciebis mozidvas<br />
Seuwyobs xels da quTaisidan<br />
mosaxleobis gadinebas<br />
SeaCerebs. isini msxvili biznesis<br />
mxridan 2012 wlamde daanonsebuli<br />
proeqtebis ganxorcielebaze<br />
uaris Tqmas swored<br />
im gancxadebebs ukavSireben,<br />
romelsac mmarTveli gundi periodulad<br />
akeTebda.<br />
„me piradad mqonda saubari<br />
baton giorgi kvirikaSvilTan.<br />
man Tavad mkiTxa, Tu ras vfiqrobdi<br />
parlamentis gadatanasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. mas vuTxari,<br />
rom winaaRmdegi var. premierma<br />
miTxra, rom Cven ar gvaqvs<br />
es ganzraxva, magram radganac<br />
sazogadoebaSi am sakiTx-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT saubroben,<br />
Seni azri mainteresebdao. garkveviT<br />
miTxra, rom aseT rames<br />
ar vgegmavTo. samomavlod, parlamentTan<br />
dakavSirebiT Tu<br />
rame daigegmeba, es aucileblad<br />
xalxTan SeTanxmdeba”, _<br />
ganacxada quTaisis erT-erTma<br />
SemTxvevaSi ki amis safuZveli<br />
ar arsebobs. uamravi sakiTxia<br />
saqarTveloSi gadasawyveti, vidre<br />
parlamentis erTi Senobidan<br />
meoreSi gadatanaa, amitom<br />
yuradReba gamaxvilebulia<br />
sxva Temebze. Tumca CemTvisac,<br />
rogorc quTaiselisTvis, bunebrivia,<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs, sad<br />
iqneba parlamenti. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
igive poziciaze vr-<br />
Cebi, romelic adre mqonda.<br />
genadi margvelaSvili _ qu-<br />
Taisis maJoritari deputati:<br />
_ TiTqmis darwmunebuli<br />
var, rom am oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
araferi msgavsi ar iqne-<br />
ba gavrcelda.<br />
_ ra Canawerze dayrdnobiT<br />
gaakeTa man msgavsi gancxadeba,<br />
ar vici. iqneb, Tqven hkiTxoT?<br />
_ Tuki es Tema isev gaxdeba<br />
aqtualuri, ras hpirdeba koba<br />
narCemaSvili sakuTar amom-<br />
rCevels?<br />
_ rasakvirvelia, Cemi pozicia<br />
iseTive iqneba, rogorc es<br />
winasaarCevnod iyo.<br />
oficialuri quTaisis pasuxi<br />
ada marSanias, romlisTvisac<br />
parlamentis adgilmdebareoba<br />
uintereso Temaa<br />
ritarobis quTaiseli kandidatebi<br />
erTxmad acxadebdnen, rom<br />
parlamentis TbilisSi gadatana<br />
dRis wesrigSi ar dadgeboda,<br />
xolo Tu am sakiTxis inicireba<br />
moxdeboda, maSin isini<br />
gadawyvetilebas xmas ar dau-<br />
Werdnen.<br />
qveynis umaRlesi sakanonmdeblo<br />
organos dedaqalaqSi<br />
dabrunebis aucileblobis Taobaze<br />
gancxadebebi periodulad<br />
keTdeba mmarTveli gundis<br />
wevrebis mxridan. argumentad<br />
ki yovelTvis saxeldeba is,<br />
rom sakanonmdeblo organos<br />
quTaisSi arseboba xarjebs zrdis<br />
da biujeti zaraldeba. Tu<br />
ra daujdeba saxelmwifos ufunqcio<br />
da daclili quTaisi,<br />
amis Sesaxeb, ratomRac, ideis<br />
momxreebi ar saubroben da<br />
rCeba STabeWdileba, rom maincdamainc<br />
ar anaRvlebT. bunebrivia,<br />
arseboben adamianebi,<br />
romlebic kategoriulad ar<br />
eTanxmebian zemoT aRniSnul<br />
mosazrebas da Semxvedr argumentebsac<br />
aJRereben. maTi azriT,<br />
Senoba, romelic quTais-<br />
Sia, energoefeqtiania da misi<br />
Senaxva saxelmwifos gacilebiT<br />
iafi ujdeba, vidre TbilisSi<br />
arsebuli nageboba. swored<br />
xarjebis Semcirebis mizniT<br />
aSenda parlamentis<br />
gverdiT,<br />
amJamad,<br />
ufunqc<br />
i o d<br />
darCenili<br />
mTavrobis<br />
saxli, romlis<br />
proeqtic<br />
italiel arqiteqtors<br />
ekuTvnis. SenobaSi<br />
saministroebis warmomadgen-<br />
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lebisTvis yvelanairi piroba<br />
Seiqmna, raTa maT sakanonmdeblo<br />
organosTan komunikacia<br />
gaadvilebodaT da rac, bunebrivia,<br />
dRis wesrigidan moxsnida<br />
im pretenziebs, romelic,<br />
parlamentis gadatanis momxreebis<br />
gancxadebiT, deputatebis<br />
aRmasrulebel xelisuflebasTan<br />
siSoriT gamowveul diskomforts<br />
ukavSird-<br />
SoTa murRulia<br />
maJoritarma deputatma, dimitri<br />
mxeiZem, gasuli wlis noemberSi,<br />
„qronika+”-isTvis micemul<br />
interviuSi. bunebrivia,<br />
amjeradac davinteresdiT,<br />
floben Tu ara informacias<br />
quTaiseli maJoritarebi, ris<br />
safuZvelze gaakeTa ada marSaniam<br />
gancxadeba sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebis komisiaSi miRweuli<br />
SeTanxmebis Sesaxeb da ucvlelia<br />
Tu ara maTi pozicia<br />
parlamentis adgilmdebareobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT?<br />
dimitri mxeiZe _ quTaisis<br />
maJoritari deputati:<br />
_ ara mgonia, es simarTle<br />
iyos. komisiis muSaobiT vinteresdebi.<br />
zogierT sakiTxSi<br />
Caxedulic var, magram parlamentis<br />
quTaisidan TbilisSi<br />
gadatanaze saubari ar yofila.<br />
_ samwuxarod, imformacia<br />
gavrcelda da bunebrivia, mosaxleoba<br />
ganmartebebs iTx-<br />
ovs, Tu ramdenad realuria<br />
igi?<br />
_ gancxadeba am<br />
Temaze SeiZleba<br />
gakeTdes maSin,<br />
Tu problema<br />
realuria. am<br />
ba. ara mgonia, konstituciaSi<br />
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maJoritari deputati winasaarCevnod<br />
gacemuli pirobis er-<br />
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unda darCes. amas vambob dRidan mosvlisa. aRniSnulze<br />
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dayenebuli sakiTxi. mec varkvev, ramdenad Seesabameba<br />
realobas es gancxadeba. albaT, erTi pirovnebis mosazrebaa,<br />
an sxvagvarad gaiges. ararealurad meCveneba amxela sakiTxis<br />
garSemo diskusia ise midiodes, rom ar vicodeT~<br />
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iloT, vimsjeloT. am Temaze<br />
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sakiTxi, romelic ase swrafad<br />
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kidev erTxel vambob: Tu<br />
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SoTa murRulia _ quTaisis<br />
meri:<br />
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unda darCes. amas vambob<br />
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mgonia, dRes sxvagvarad iyos<br />
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es gancxadeba. albaT,<br />
erTi pirovnebis mosazrebaa, an<br />
sxvagvarad gaiges. ararealurad<br />
meCveneba amxela sakiTxis<br />
garSemo diskusia ise midiodes,<br />
rom ar vicodeT.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom parlamentis<br />
adgilmdebareobis<br />
SesaZlo SecvlasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebis<br />
miRebis Taobaze zusti informacia<br />
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opoziciuri partiebis warmomadgenlebmac<br />
sakuTari mosazrebebi<br />
daafiqsires. „patriot-<br />
Ta aliansis” wevris gaJRerebuli<br />
gancxadeba maT ukmayofilebas<br />
iwvevs. metic, „erTiani<br />
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inicireba saprotesto aqciebis<br />
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giorgi ukleba _ „erTiani<br />
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vidre proeqti ar daideba,<br />
magram raRac safuZveli am<br />
gancxadebas eqneboda. darwmunebuli<br />
var, quTaisi Tavis sityvas<br />
ityvis. mjera, bevri adamiani<br />
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adamianTa sakmaod didi nawili<br />
ar dauSvebs aseT sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebas.<br />
marTalia, winasaarCevnod<br />
Segvpirdnen, magram unda vicodeT,<br />
rom es aris Cveulebrivi<br />
„Sulerebis” gundi. „qarTuli<br />
ocnebisTvis” dapirebas aranairi<br />
mniSvneloba rom ar aqvs, es<br />
2012 wlis Semdeg dasturdeba.<br />
mTavaria, Cven vTqvaT Cveni sityva,<br />
gamovideT quCaSi da msgavsi<br />
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`Tu parlamenti TbilisSi unda gadavides, maSin<br />
quTaiss sxva Rirseuli alternativa unda<br />
SevTavazoT, unda ganvixiloT, vimsjeloT. am<br />
Temaze diskusiaa saWiro. es ar aris sakiTxi,<br />
romelic ase swrafad gvardeba. Cven movismineT<br />
winasaarCevnod dapirebebi mmarTveli gundidan,<br />
rom quTaisis mosaxleobis poziciasa da<br />
interesebs gaiTvaliswineben. kidev erTxel vambob:<br />
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erT qalaqSi xdeba xelisuflebis yvela Stos<br />
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Temur camciSvili _ poli-<br />
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samive maTgani amomrCevels dahpirda,<br />
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mxars parlamentis gadatanas<br />
da didi imedi maqvs, rom amave<br />
pozicias myarad daicaven. SesaZlebelia,<br />
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es, Jurnalistebma gamostyues<br />
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es iqneba Zalian cudi faqti,<br />
roca aseT mZime pirobebSi<br />
erT qalaqSi xdeba ekonomikis<br />
koncentracia srulad da amas<br />
emateba administraciuli<br />
struqturebi. am oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
quTaisSi parlamentis<br />
arsebobam Sesabamisad ar<br />
imuSava erTi faqtoris gamo _<br />
2012 wels pirdapir gaaJRera<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam”, rom parlamenti<br />
gadava dedaqalaqSi.<br />
praqtikaSi rodis ganxorcieldeboda,<br />
amas arsebiTi mniSvneloba<br />
aRar hqonda, radgan<br />
msgavsma gancxadebebma Tavisi<br />
saqme gaakeTa da biznesis interesi<br />
qalaqisadmi gaqra.<br />
winasaarCevnod Segvpirdnen<br />
teqnologiur universitets,<br />
saerTaSoriso standartis ramdenime<br />
sportul darbazs da<br />
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SegveZlos mivxvdeT, vin gvpirdeba<br />
da ramdenad Sesruldeba<br />
igi.<br />
samson gugava _ „leiboris-<br />
tuli partia”:<br />
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sityvebi uxvad gvesmoda<br />
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swraf ganviTarebasTan da<br />
ukeTes cxovrebasTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
samwuxarod, sazogadoebis<br />
erTma nawilma iseTi tipis<br />
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Seusrulebia danapirebi da<br />
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rom Cven SevewinaaRmdegebiT<br />
parlamentis gadatanaso.<br />
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Tavi aaridon msgavs sakiTxebs<br />
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asruleben.<br />
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lamentis gadatanis sakiTxi<br />
dRis wesrigSi dadges?<br />
ada marSania _ parlamentis<br />
wevri:<br />
_ arasworad gaavrceles. me<br />
qarTul enaze vsaubrobdi da<br />
ver gaiges. ase ar iyo naTqvami<br />
saerTod da me mgoni, es arcaa<br />
saintereso Tema.<br />
_ quTaisis mosaxleo-<br />
bisTvis es Zalian saintereso<br />
sakiTxia da ras unda velo-<br />
doT?<br />
_ ar vici, amaze msjeloba<br />
win gvaqvs. seriozulad Sei-<br />
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imaze, Tu qveynis rogor<br />
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dayofas miviRebT da aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
rogori parlamenti<br />
warmogvidgenia 2020 wels.<br />
Tuki 2-palatiani parlamenti<br />
iqneba, ar aris gamoricxuli,<br />
zeda palatam quTaisSi, xolo<br />
qveda palatam TbilisSi imuSaos.<br />
ubralod, didi jgufia<br />
deputatebis, romelsac miaCnia,<br />
rom did xarjTan aris dakavSirebuli<br />
quTaisSi yofna da<br />
sjobia, parlamenti TbilisSi<br />
gadmovides. zogs miaCnia, raRac<br />
struqturebi iq unda darCes<br />
da 80% gadmovides, magram<br />
romelia es 20%, ra azri aqvs<br />
da ratom unda darCes, es msjelobis<br />
sagania. gaugebroba moxda,<br />
raRac ver gaiges da ise<br />
gavrcelda informacia.<br />
_ e. i., jerjerobiT, SeTanxmeba<br />
ar yofila da quT-<br />
aislebs SeSfoTebis mizezi ar<br />
unda hqondeT?<br />
_ ara, ara SeTanxmeba rogor<br />
SeiZleba? iq nawili muSaobda,<br />
mxolod erTi jgufi. jerjerobiT,<br />
am etapze, aranairi SeTanxmeba<br />
ar aris. amaze mTlianad<br />
komisiam unda miiRos gadawyvetileba<br />
da ara erTma jgufma.<br />
iq ufro bevrad saintereso<br />
sakiTxebia, vidre parlamentis<br />
gadatana-gadmotana. Cven gansakuTrebuli<br />
xedva gvaqvs teritoriul<br />
dayofaze, radgan<br />
aqedan gamomdinareobs Cveni da<br />
Cveni qveynis cxovreba. Tuki<br />
saWirod miviCnevT, mogvianebiT<br />
SemiZlia, am sakiTxze dawvrilebiT<br />
gesaubroT.<br />
rogorc Cans, sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebze momuSave<br />
jgufSi parlamentis adgilmdebareobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT<br />
raime saxis SeTanxmeba ar momxdara.<br />
marTalia, aseT gancxadebebs<br />
deputatebi akeTeben, magram<br />
gavrcelebuli informacia<br />
quTaiselTa erT nawilSi<br />
eWvs mainc iwvevs. bunebrivia,<br />
rTulia, vinme SeewinaaRmdegos<br />
im adamianebs, romlebic fiqroben,<br />
rom statusi qalaqis Semdgomi<br />
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parlamentis quTais-<br />
Si arseboba ki mniSvnelovania<br />
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dedaqalaqis problemacaa,<br />
romelmac raRac unda<br />
gaiRos, Tuki es qveynis Tanabari<br />
ganviTarebisTvisaa aucilebeli.<br />
N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />
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samarTlis niSnebi ar ikveTebao.<br />
„saiam”axali saCivari mogvimzada<br />
da generalur inspeqcias mivmar-<br />
TeT. marto Cvens korpusSi am firmam<br />
milionze meti miiTvisa da sad<br />
wavida es Tanxebi, aravis ainteresebs.<br />
kanonmorCili moqalaqeebi<br />
varT da saxelmwifos daxmarebisTvis<br />
mivmarTavT, quCur garCevebs<br />
xom ar daviwyebT?! gviCndeba safu-<br />
Zvliani eWvi, rom prokuraturaSi<br />
viRac lobirebs, ar viciT vin,<br />
magram amaze faqtebi metyvelebs!<br />
ratom iRebs es adamiani amxela<br />
codvas kiserze, ar vici.<br />
Cveni informaciiT, „aqsisi” TanamSromlobs<br />
Tanadafinansebis<br />
fondTan. televiziiT gaSuqda da<br />
iqidan viciT, rom 83-milioniani<br />
proeqtia da 50X50-ze axorcieleben<br />
kompania „aqsisi” da Tanadafinansebis<br />
fondi, romelic or caTambjens<br />
aSenebs WavWavaZeze, „lib-<br />
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rvalze arian da rom vkiTxeT, sad<br />
wavida fulio, TviTon kapanaZem<br />
axsena, ganviTareba xdeboda da<br />
sxva miwas vyidulobdiTo. warmogidgeniaT,<br />
Cveni TanxebiT gamdidrdnen,<br />
ra ufleba hqondaT?!<br />
Cvennairad sxvebic arian dazaralebulebi,<br />
aris sxva mitovebuli korpusebi,<br />
aris xalxi, magaliTad,<br />
2008 wlis agvistoSi, omamde unda<br />
Cabareboda bina da dRemde mSenebloba<br />
SeCerebulia. sainteresoa,<br />
omamde raRam SeuSalaT xeli?! is<br />
binebi upatronod aris mitovebuli<br />
da ukve gafuWebulia, demonta-<br />
Ji unda moxdes. vin daafinansebs<br />
axla imis demontaJs?! es xom qalaqi<br />
aRar aris, stalingrads daemsgavsa!<br />
omamde Tu arafers akeTebdnen,<br />
e. i. me rom Tanxa Sevitane 2007<br />
wels, isini ukve TaRliTebi da<br />
aferistebi iyvnen, ukve gadagdebuli<br />
hyavdaT xalxi da, saubedurod,<br />
Cven es ar vicodiT! dResac Tu<br />
gauvaT da vinmes moatyueben, didi<br />
siamovnebiT izamen! es samSeneblo<br />
kompania ki ar aris, es aris organizacia,<br />
romelic Suamavalia mSeneblebsa<br />
da klientebs Soris! axla<br />
gadavwyviteT, mTavari prokuraturis<br />
win aqciebi movawyoT. prokuraturisgan<br />
da xelisuflebisgan<br />
viTxovT, Seasrulon TavianTi konstituciuri<br />
valdebuleba da gvipasuxon,<br />
_ sad wavida Cven mier<br />
gadaxili asobiT aTasi Tanxa?!<br />
merab CiCua:<br />
_ 2008 wlis ivnisSi Sps „aqsis-<br />
Tan” xelSekruleba gavaforme. 75<br />
aTasi evro unda gadamexada, ratom?<br />
dRemde ar vici, magram raRac<br />
procentebic damiTvales da, saboloo<br />
jamSi, 77 771 evro haerSi gadaixade.<br />
unda mimeRo 118 kv.m bina.<br />
Cemi movaleoba, rogorc xelSekrulebaSi<br />
iyo gawerili, pirnaTlad<br />
Sevasrule, gadioda wlebi,<br />
mivdiodi ofisSi, vkiTxulobdi ra<br />
xdeba, rodis daiwyebT, menejeri<br />
hyavT qalbatoni, romelic araadamianuri<br />
saqcieliT cdilobda,<br />
mdgomareobidan gamoveyvane, _ madloba<br />
miTxariT, telefonze rom<br />
gpasuxobTo. yvelanairad cdilobda,<br />
raRac dameSavebina da Tavi davanebe.<br />
2014 wels advokati aviyvane<br />
da mivaRwie, rom 2015 wels axali<br />
xelSekruleba gavaforme. dampirdnen,<br />
rom 2016 wlis martSi binas<br />
Camabarebdnen. xelSekruleba-<br />
Si aris aseTi punqti, rom Tu 2014<br />
wlis ivnisidan rva Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ar daiwyebdnen mSeneblobas,<br />
aT samuSao dReSi Tanxas damibrunebdnen,<br />
an sxva binas Semom-<br />
Tavazebdnen, Tu SemoTavazebul<br />
binaze vityodi uars, Tanxa unda<br />
daebrunebinaT. damTavrda 2016<br />
weli da valdebuleba isev Seusrulebeli<br />
darCa. zogadad, amboben,<br />
rom Cveni binis araSeneba 2008 wlis<br />
omma gamoiwvia, samdRiani krizisi<br />
iyoo, amas abraleben, magram 2014<br />
wlis Semdeg xom omi ar yofila...<br />
arc 2008 wels dazaralebulan,<br />
sasamarTlo davis dros maTi iuristi<br />
ambobda, _ 2008 wels rusebs<br />
hqondaT gadaketili mTavari magistrali,<br />
Cven mivdiodiT armaturis<br />
sayidlad, ver viyideT da amitom<br />
ver avaSeneTo. Tu armatura ver<br />
iyides, daerekaT, modiT, waiReT<br />
Tqveni fuli, ver vyidulobT armaturaso.<br />
meore argumenti iyo, _<br />
mere, 2009 wels vapirebdiT armaturis<br />
yidvas, magram 2009 wels<br />
rusTavelze mitingebi iyo da<br />
yazbegis quCaze SeferxebiT gadaadgildebodnen<br />
satvirTo avtomobilebi,<br />
amis gamo ver avaSeneTo.<br />
cinizmis mijnaa! es saqme sisxlis<br />
samarTlis danaSauli imitom aris,<br />
rom am kompaniaSi Cveni mxridan<br />
uzarmazari Tanxebi Sevida, erTi<br />
da igive pirebi afuZneben sxvadasxva<br />
Sps-s, erT Sps-ze iReben<br />
valdebulebas, mere es Tanxebi ukvalod<br />
qreba da sad midis, aravin<br />
icis. naxevari vake-saburTalo<br />
aaSenes, daasrules, binebi gayides<br />
da bednierad arian, axlac yidian<br />
da axali mSeneblobebic iwyeba,<br />
Cven ra niSniT gamogvarCies?! rodesac<br />
„aqsisis” gayidvebis menejers,<br />
qalbaton ekas vuTxari, yazaxeTis<br />
moqalaqe var, minda, saqarTveloSi<br />
davbrunde da rodis<br />
iqneba bina-meTqi? mipasuxa, _ aq ra<br />
ginda, karg adgilas yofilxaro...<br />
erTi mxriv, SeiZleba, simarTlec<br />
Tqva...<br />
daviT lomsaZe:<br />
_ petriaSvilis quCaze xelSekruleba<br />
gavaforme, „aqsis plusisgan”<br />
sesxi aviRe da „aqsis developments”<br />
nasyidobis xelSekruleba<br />
gavuforme. binis mSenebloba<br />
2011 wels saerTod unda damTavrebuliyo.<br />
vali pirnaTlad davfare,<br />
procentianad, am motiviT<br />
Cemi binac gavyide. roca kompanias<br />
vukavSirdebodi, meubnebodnen, _<br />
aSendebao. mec vujerebdi am dapirebas,<br />
magram rom mivxvdi, matyuebdnen,<br />
sasamarTloSi viCivle. gamoikveTa,<br />
rom xelSekruleba dadebuli<br />
mqonda „aqsis development-<br />
Tan” da TviTon miwa, sadac bina<br />
unda aSenebuliyo, Sps „aqsisis”<br />
iyo. daviwyeT dava da pirveli instancia<br />
movige, Tanxa daakisres<br />
Tavisi 9%-iT, magram mere es yvelaferi<br />
moviZieT _ aRsruleba imitom<br />
ar xdeba, rom saerTod, am<br />
Sps-s qoneba ar gaaCnia. mere finansur<br />
policias mivmarTe, axsnaganmarteba<br />
CamomarTves, gamokiTxvis<br />
oqmi prokuraturaSi gadaagzavnes<br />
im motiviT, rom iq am saqmeebis<br />
Tavmoyra xdeboda. gamoZieba ar<br />
daiwyo, mere rogorc iraklim aRniSna,<br />
erToblivi gancxadebiT mivmarTeT,<br />
magram Sedegi _ nuli. finansur<br />
policiaSi gviTxres, isev<br />
samoqalaqo kuTxiT girCevniaT<br />
wasvla, imitom, rom xelfasi kompaniis<br />
damfuZnebels, meJeviZes aRebuli<br />
aqvs TveSi 80 000 lari, kapanaZes<br />
ki 20 000. aRar daukonkretebiaT,<br />
magram gvirCies, am kuTxiT<br />
girCevniaT wavla imitom, rom verafers<br />
miiRebT aqedan, aRsruleba<br />
carieli furcliT ar moxdebao.<br />
am dros, 2012 wlis monacemebiT,<br />
meJeviZe 100 yvelaze mdidar qar-<br />
TvelTa Soris 27-e adgils ikavebs,<br />
cxovrobs niu-iorkSi, saqarTveloSi<br />
roca Camodis, TviTon da<br />
misi Svili dacviT dadis, sakmaod<br />
uzrunvelyofili ojaxia, 2012<br />
wlis Semdeg, SeiZleba, kidev gamdidrdnen,<br />
magram aravis qonebas ar<br />
viTvliT, Cven Cvensas viTxovT.<br />
Rameebi ar gvZinavs, iseT cud dRe-<br />
Si varT, janmrTeloba SevwireT am<br />
„aqsiss”. Cveni ojaxebis xarjze ratom<br />
xdeba es yvelaferi?! dagvxocon,<br />
Tu ar vWirdebiT araferSi!<br />
Tu Cveni saxl-kari ar unda gvqondes,<br />
pirdapir gviTxran da gaviqceviT,<br />
wavalT... davberdiT binis<br />
molodinSi, 10 welia, uimedod<br />
velodebiT...<br />
Sorena bereJiani:<br />
_ am SemTxvevaSi warmovadgen<br />
dedaCems, bina Cemzea gaformebuli,<br />
magram is Tanxa, romelic binis<br />
asaSeneblad gadavixadeT, es<br />
aris misi ramdenime wlis Sromis<br />
Sedegi, amerikaSi iyo da imis gamo,<br />
rom am binis aSenebas elodeboda,<br />
8-9 wliT gvian Camovida. 2007 wels<br />
maqvs mec Tanxa Setanili da bina<br />
2011 wels unda Cagvbareboda. Tanxa<br />
yovelTviurad Zalian zustad,<br />
pedanturad Segvqonda, erTi dRis<br />
gadacilebac ar maqvs. Semdeg xelSekrulebis<br />
Secvla viTxoveT da<br />
yvelaze patara binaSi gadavcvaleT,<br />
radgan im Tanxis Setana ukve<br />
aRar SegveZlo. axali xelSekrulebis<br />
pirobiT, bina 2013 wels<br />
unda Cagvbareboda. axlac am binas<br />
velodebiT, magram araferi aSenebula.<br />
yovel Tve mivdiodi da rom<br />
vxedavdi, guli miskdeboda, sam-<br />
Seneblo moedanic ki ar iyo momzadebuli.<br />
Tanxas mainc vixdidiT,<br />
vasrulebdi pirobas, imedi mqonda,<br />
Tu „aqsisi” ver aaSenebda, viRas-<br />
Tvis unda gamomecxadebina ndoba?!<br />
axla 2017 welia, zustad igive<br />
mdgomareobaa, araferi aSenebula.<br />
vadaze adre gvaqvs Tanxa gadaxdili.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, Cvenc sesxi<br />
gvqonda, TviTonve gvasesxes da<br />
procentis CaTvliT 65 500 dolari<br />
vadaze adre davfareT. bolos,<br />
vifiqre, rom sasamarTloSi meCivla,<br />
magram sxva dazaralebulebs<br />
rom Sevxvdi da vnaxe, mogebuli<br />
sasamarTlos meSveobiTac verafers<br />
miaRwies, kidev erTxel molaparakebis<br />
gziT vcade urTierToba.<br />
vTxove, rom amis kompensaciis<br />
sanacvlod, binis isev imdeni far-<br />
Ti moecaT, romelzedac Tavidan<br />
viyaviT SeTanxmebulebi. damTanxmdnen<br />
imitom, rom Tanxis dabruneba<br />
da farTi sxva korpusSi gamoricxes.<br />
am etapze am molaparakebis<br />
procesSi var. advokatis ayvanis<br />
saSualebac ar maqvs, esec xom did<br />
xarjebTan aris dakavSirebuli?!<br />
ubralod, es Tanxa fizikurad ar<br />
maqvs, dedaCemi Camovida, ubinaod<br />
darCa, CemTan cxovrobs, quCaSi xom<br />
ar unda darCes adamiani?! moralur<br />
zaralze ukve arafers vambob.<br />
rac „aqsisSi” SevitaneT Tanxa,<br />
bankSi rom dagvedo, aqamde ori<br />
imdeni iqneboda. yvelam, Cemma axlobelma,<br />
ukve icis da aravis vur-<br />
Cev, am kompaniasTan saqme daiWiros.<br />
ori dRis win, kviras Rame, traqtori<br />
miiyvanes im teritoriaze,<br />
sadac Cveni korpusi unda aSenebuliyo<br />
da ramdenime manqana nagavi<br />
gaitanes. acxadeben, rom TiTqos<br />
2018 wlis Semodgomaze gveqneba<br />
binebi. rogor gveqneba, magaliTad,<br />
iraklisa da daviTis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
xelSekrulebidan gasulebi arian,<br />
sasamarTlom daakisra maT Tanxis<br />
gadaxda da amboben, rom ar aqvT.<br />
an rogor unda aaSenon, am miwis<br />
nakveTs uamravi yadaRa adevs, vin<br />
aSenebs, romeli Sps?! kidev erTi<br />
xazgasasmeli faqtia, erTsa da<br />
imave korpusze, erTsa da imave<br />
dros xelSekrulebebia gaformebuli.<br />
erT SemTxvevaSi „aqsis developmentze”,<br />
meore SemTxvevaSi<br />
Sps „aqsisze”, ratom sWirdebaT es?<br />
auqcionze gamoitanes, eWvi aris,<br />
rom TviTonve daayadaRes da axla<br />
gayides. erTi miwis nakveTia gayiduli<br />
60 000 larSi, meore 10 000<br />
larSi, mflobelia „aqsis grupi”,<br />
isev TavianTi firma, saxelebs ucvlian<br />
imitom, rom Cvennairi davis<br />
SemTxvevaSi araferi gadaixadon!<br />
kerZo da oficialur saubrebSi ar<br />
malaven da saqarTvelos sajaro<br />
reestridan amonabeWdi informaciis<br />
mixedviTac amboben, rom arian<br />
erTi da igiveebi, prokuraturaSic<br />
Tqves, erTni varTo, sagaze-<br />
To interviuSic, magram sasamarTlo<br />
davis dros umkacresad usvamen<br />
xazs, rom es aris sxva Sps, mepatroneebi<br />
erTi da igivea.<br />
„qronika+“ kompania „aqsisis“<br />
direqtors, giorgi kapanaZes<br />
daukavSirda:<br />
- Sps-s qoneba rogor ar gaaCnia,<br />
ubralod, valdebulebebi aris<br />
da rodesac Civian, erTmaneTis<br />
qonebas ayadaReben da aseTi mdgomareoba<br />
iqmneba, rom aRsrulebidan<br />
Tanxebi ar amodis. miuxedavad<br />
amisa, obieqtebi Sendeba, miuxedavad<br />
amisa, yvela kreditori, saboloo<br />
jamSi, iTxovs, rom aqtiviT<br />
da pasiviT gavides. aseT kompanias,<br />
romelic aseT dReSia, sasamarTloSi<br />
aqvs saqme da qoneba dayadaRebulia,<br />
aravin daafinansebs,<br />
arc banki da arc kerZo investori.<br />
yvelas moTxovnaa, rom aqtivebi gadavides<br />
axal kompaniaze da aseT<br />
SemTxvevaSi afinanseben xolme.<br />
vicnob am jgufs, romelTac Tqven<br />
mogmarTes, mesmis am xalxis, me Tvi-<br />
Ton, sadac dekanoziSvili elodeba<br />
binas, iq maqvs nayidi. daqiravebuli<br />
menejeri var, Cemi xom ar<br />
aris es kompania, mec viyide, meZaxian,<br />
TaRliTi xaro da rogor var<br />
TaRliTi, sakuTari Tavic movatyue?<br />
Tavis droze xeli SegviSala<br />
krizisma, rom valdebuleba<br />
Segvesrulebina, 2008 wlis agvistos<br />
omma daasamara es saqme. visac<br />
nayidi hqonda da fuli iyo Semosatani,<br />
aRar Semoitana. Tqven mogmarTaT<br />
xalxma, romelTac mTlianad<br />
aqvs Tanxa gadaxdili, magram<br />
danarCenis mxridan valdebuleba<br />
bolomde ar Sesrulda. eseni arian<br />
umciresobaSi, ZiriTadad, binebi<br />
ganvadebiT iyideboda da mogexsenebaT,<br />
dResac asea. zogs Tvi-<br />
Tonac Seeqmna problema da Tanxa<br />
veRar Semoitana, zogs SeeSinda,<br />
aRarc axali myidvelebi movidnen<br />
da obieqtebis mSenebloba veRar<br />
gagrZelda. 2008 wlamde ver damisaxelebT<br />
verc erT kompanias gamonaklisis<br />
garda, yvela iyo damokidebuli<br />
winaswar gayidvebze. imdenad<br />
didi moTxovna iyo, rom xalxi<br />
mSenebares yidulobda, metic,<br />
bankebi aZlevdnen sesxebs klientebs,<br />
rom maT CvenTan eyidaT bina<br />
da uzrunvelyofaSi idebdnen<br />
auSenebel qonebas. axla arc erTi<br />
banki amas aRar izams. Cven am xalx-<br />
Tan erTad varT dazaralebulebi,<br />
Zalian seriozuli dartyma miviReT.<br />
samwuxaroa, rom es procesi<br />
aqamde gaiwela, magram, sabednierod,<br />
mSeneblobis procesi ukve<br />
daviwyeT, momdevno wlis bolos<br />
CavabarebT imitom, rom Zalian ma-<br />
Rali obieqtia da dro sWirdeba.<br />
TvalTmaqcoba da tyuilebi rom<br />
ar daviwyoT, 20 Tve namdvilad<br />
sWirdeba. erTi suli gvaqvs Cvenc,<br />
rodis gavistumrebT am adamianebs.<br />
TviTon am xalxis survili - ufro<br />
adre dakmayofildnen, vidre, davuSvaT,<br />
maTi mezoblebi arian, gasagebia,<br />
subieqturad yvela uyurebs,<br />
rom fuli Sevitane da minda<br />
miviRo. mec, magaliTad, ase minda,<br />
magram globalur suraTs rom<br />
SexedoT, ase ufro samarTliani<br />
iqneba. Cven rom am adamianebs Tanxebi<br />
davubrunoT, kidev gansazRvravs<br />
mSeneblobis gadavadebas,<br />
ufro samarTliani iqneba, yvelam<br />
erTad miiRos binebi. binebi rom<br />
CabardebaT, Tu ar undaT iq cxovreba,<br />
mere gayidian, Cvenc mivexmarebiT<br />
gayidvaSi, an gavyidiT da<br />
Tanxas davubrunebT. im xalxma,<br />
romelmac sasamarTloSi iCivla da<br />
Tanxa ekuTvnis, imas aucileblad<br />
miiRebs, magram pirvel rigSi, es<br />
mSenebloba unda dasruldes.<br />
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yvelaze Zlieri instituti saqarTveloSi sabanko seqtoria<br />
_ es cxadia. bazarze maTi konkurenti sxva instituti arc ki<br />
arsebobs da amaze calsaxad saubroben rogorc Tavad sabanko<br />
seqtoris warmomadgenlebi, aseve eqspertebi. Tumca yvelaze<br />
did problemas, am SemTxvevaSi, arsebuli situacia warmoadgens,<br />
romelic Semdegia: komerciuli bankebi ar gascemen sesx-<br />
ebs potenciur konkurent biznesebze, radgan isini Tavad<br />
floben araprofilur biznesebs, romlis warmatebac bankis<br />
siZlieriTaa garantirebuli, am dros ki Tavisufali biznesi<br />
iCagreba, romelmac mxolod is „daaSava”, rom xsenebuli ko-<br />
merciuli bankebis mflobelobaSi arsebuli araprofiluri<br />
biznesis konkurentia. im depozitebis, anu momxmareblebis mier<br />
konkretul bankSi dabandebuli Tanxis gamoyenebis mimarTule-<br />
bas, ra Tqma unda, TviTon banki gansazRvravs, Tumca rogorc<br />
eqsperti, vaxtang xomizuraSvili ambobs, wesiT, am Tanxebis<br />
ZiriTadi mimarTuleba sesxebi unda iyos, romelTa gacemaze<br />
procenti ufro maRalia, vidre depozitze dawesebuli pro-<br />
centi, swored amiT ikvebebian bankebi.<br />
vaxtang xomizuraSvili _<br />
eqsperti:<br />
_ is, Tu rogor unda gamoiyenos<br />
bankma aqtivebi, mkacrad<br />
reglamentirebuli ar aris, amas<br />
banki Tavad wyvets.<br />
Cven unda davakvirdeT imas,<br />
Tu ramdenia sakredito portfeli<br />
depozitebidan, Tu igi (sakredito<br />
portfeli, igive gacemuli<br />
sesxebi) ufro metia, vidre<br />
depozitebi, vaskvniT, rom bankma<br />
garda Tavisi depozitebisa,<br />
gamoiyena saaqcio kapitalis nawili<br />
sesxebSi. rogorc wesi, sakredito<br />
portfeli gacilebiT didia,<br />
vidre moziduli depozitebi,<br />
radgan banki, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
iyenebs klienturis mimdinare angariSebis<br />
nawils, plus imas, rac<br />
saaqcio kapitalSi aqvs. xolo im<br />
SemTxvevaSi, Tu gacemuli sesxebi<br />
ufro naklebia, vidre depozitebi,<br />
daskvna ideba, rom banki am<br />
depozitebs araprofilur saqmianobaSi<br />
iyenebs. magram pirdapir<br />
ver ganasxvaveb, ra Tanxebia<br />
gacemul sesxebSi.<br />
maxsovs adre erT-erT banks<br />
depozitebis moculoba meti<br />
hqonda, vidre gacemuli sesxebi.<br />
daisva kiTxva, Tu sad wavida es<br />
Tanxebi? pirvveli: araprofilur<br />
biznesSi (sakuTari kompaniebis<br />
SeqmnaSi), is banks ar hqonda;<br />
meore: fiqsirebul aqtivebSi,<br />
uZravi qoneba: Senoba, bankomatebi,<br />
mowyobilobebi, aveji da a. S.<br />
dadginda, rom es Tanxebi mimarTuli<br />
iyo araSemosavlian aqtivebze,<br />
anu uZrav qonebaze, rac, ra<br />
Tqma unda, sagangaSo aRmoCnda.<br />
mere am banks aRniSnuli depozitebis<br />
momsaxurebis problemebi<br />
gauCnda.<br />
sabolood, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
rom bankebi da maTi araprofiluri<br />
saqmianobebi erTmaneTisgan<br />
unda gaimijnos. erovnuli banki<br />
iniciativiT unda gamovides da<br />
mere parlamentma moagvaros es<br />
yvelaferi, Torem romel parlamentars<br />
mouva TavSi am yvelafris<br />
Secvla da kanonmdeblobaSi<br />
Setana?! msgavs saqmeze pasuxismgebloba<br />
erovnulma bankma<br />
unda itvirTos, misi pirdapiri<br />
movaleobaa.<br />
26<br />
cota ukan rom gadavinacvloT,<br />
jer kidev, 2015 wels,<br />
erovnuli bankis yofili direqtoris,<br />
giorgi qadagiZis regulaciiT,<br />
bankebs sam-<br />
Seneblo da sxva<br />
tipis kompaniebi<br />
xsenebuli<br />
wlis 31 de-<br />
vaxtang xomizuraSvili<br />
kembramde unda daeTmoT. marTalia,<br />
am ideis avtori oTxi eqspertisgan<br />
Semdgari jgufi iyo,<br />
romelmac (levan kalandaZe, irakli<br />
leqvinaZe, levan alafiSvili<br />
da giorgi abaSiSvili) xelisuflebas<br />
komerciuli bankebisTvis<br />
arasabanko da araprofiluri<br />
saqmianobis akrZalvis winadadebiT<br />
mimarTa, magram mTavari<br />
Sedegi iyo da regulaciac<br />
ZalaSi Sevida, romlis Semdegac,<br />
saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis<br />
gadawyvetilebiT, qveyanaSi moqmed<br />
komerciul bankebs araprofiluri<br />
saqmianoba aekrZalaT.<br />
sabanko seqtori mxolod tradiciuli<br />
safinanso momsaxurebis<br />
miwodebiT unda Semofargluliyo.<br />
metic, araprofiluri saqmianobis<br />
wamosawyebad axali nebar-<br />
Tvebis gacemis meTodic sagrZnoblad<br />
gamkacrda, rac 2008 wlamde<br />
arsebul praqtikas Seesabameboda.<br />
im komerciul bankebs,<br />
ratom ar gascemen sesxebs<br />
komerciuli bankebi da<br />
aregulireben Tu ara<br />
isini araprofiluri<br />
biznesebis flobas?<br />
`jer kidev, 2015 wels, erovnuli bankis yofili direqtoris, giorgi<br />
qadagiZis regulaciiT, bankebs samSeneblo da sxva tipis kompaniebi<br />
xsenebuli wlis 31 dekembramde unda daeTmoT. marTalia, am ideis<br />
avtori oTxi eqspertisgan Semdgari jgufi iyo, romelmac (levan<br />
kalandaZe, irakli leqvinaZe, levan alafiSvili da giorgi<br />
abaSiSvili) xelisuflebas komerciuli bankebisTvis arasabanko da<br />
araprofiluri saqmianobis akrZalvis winadadebiT mimarTa, magram<br />
mTavari Sedegi iyo da regulaciac ZalaSi Sevida, romlis<br />
Semdegac, saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis gadawyvetilebiT, qveyanaSi<br />
moqmed komerciul bankebs araprofiluri saqmianoba aekrZalaT.<br />
sabanko seqtori mxolod tradiciuli safinanso momsaxurebis<br />
miwodebiT unda Semofargluliyo. metic, araprofiluri<br />
saqmianobis wamosawyebad axali nebarTvebis gacemis meTodic<br />
sagrZnoblad gamkacrda, rac 2008 wlamde arsebul praqtikas<br />
Seesabameboda. im komerciul bankebs, romlebic aseT saqmianobaSi<br />
ukve CarTulebi iyvnen, 30 kalendaruli dRis vadaSi, seb-isTvis<br />
bankis arasafinanso sferodan etapobrivad, 2015 wlis 31<br />
dekembramde, gamosvlis detaluri strategia unda waredginaT~<br />
romlebic aseT saqmianobaSi ukve<br />
CarTulebi iyvnen, 30 kalendaruli<br />
dRis vadaSi, seb-isTvis bankis<br />
arasafinanso sferodan etapobrivad,<br />
2015 wlis 31 dekembramde,<br />
gamosvlis detaluri strategia<br />
unda waredginaT.<br />
maSin am regulaciebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, eqspertebis SefasebiT,<br />
sruliad sakmarisi dro iyo, rom<br />
procesebs umtkivneulod da<br />
finansuri danakargis gareSe Caevlo.<br />
Tumca, seb-is imdroisTvis,<br />
axal regulaciaSi erTi gza mainc<br />
rCeboda: komerciuli bankebis<br />
aqcionerebs aravin ukrZalavda,<br />
arasabanko sferoSi investiciebi<br />
ganexorcielebinaT, Tuki<br />
am investicias komerciuli<br />
banki ar gascemda. meore mxriv,<br />
amave logikiT, nebismieri komerciuli<br />
bankis aqcioners SeeZlo,<br />
araprofiluri aqtivis saxiT,<br />
giorgi qadagiZe<br />
bankis kuTvnili samSeneblo Tu<br />
sxva tipis kompania gadaeformebina.<br />
marTalia, es kompania bankis<br />
araprofilur aqtivad aRar<br />
CaiTvleboda, samagierod, amave<br />
bankis aqcioneris sakuTrebaSi<br />
darCeboda.<br />
maSin bankebis asociaciis<br />
prezidenti zurab gvasalia ambobda,<br />
rom msgavsi regulaciis<br />
SemoRebis gadaudebeli aucilebloba<br />
namdvilad ar iyo.<br />
erT-erT interviuSi man isic<br />
Tqva, rom araprofiluri aqtivebi<br />
komerciul bankebSi<br />
dalxenili cxovrebis Sedegad<br />
ar gaCenila: „es is kompaniebia,<br />
romlebic bankebSi „CarCnen”,<br />
radgan auqcionze ki gaitanes,<br />
magram myidveli ar gamouCnda.<br />
Sesabamisad, komerciuli bankebi<br />
iZulebulebi iyvnen, am tipis<br />
kompaniebis aqtivebis kapitalizacia<br />
Tavad ganexorcielebinaT.<br />
2008 wlis finansuri<br />
krizisis Semdeg, saqarTvelos<br />
komerciuli bankebi ase<br />
rom ar moqceuliyvnen, saqarTvelos<br />
samSeneblo biznesi bevrad<br />
mZime mdgomareobaSi aRmoCndeboda<br />
da arc SeCerebuli<br />
mSeneblobebi dasruldeboda”.<br />
es rac iyo 2015 wels. axla<br />
rac Seexeba Cvens bazarze umsxvilesi<br />
komerciuli bankebis mier<br />
araprofiluri aqtivebis flobis<br />
Sefasebas.<br />
lia eliava _ ekonomikis<br />
eqsperti:<br />
_ dResac savalalo mdgomareobaa<br />
komerciuli bankebis mxridan<br />
araprofiluri aqtivebis<br />
flobis kuTxiT. is, rac formalurad<br />
2015 wels mogvarda,<br />
`Cven unda davakvirdeT imas, Tu ramdenia sakredito portfeli<br />
depozitebidan, Tu igi (sakredito portfeli, igive gacemuli sesxebi)<br />
ufro metia, vidre depozitebi, vaskvniT, rom bankma garda Tavisi<br />
depozitebisa, gamoiyena saaqcio kapitalis nawili sesxebSi. rogorc wesi,<br />
sakredito portfeli gacilebiT didia, vidre moziduli depozitebi,<br />
radgan banki, am SemTxvevaSi, iyenebs klienturis mimdinare angariSebis<br />
nawils, plus imas, rac saaqcio kapitalSi aqvs. xolo im SemTxvevaSi, Tu<br />
gacemuli sesxebi ufro naklebia, vidre depozitebi, daskvna ideba, rom<br />
banki am depozitebs araprofilur saqmianobaSi iyenebs. magram pirdapir<br />
ver ganasxvaveb, ra Tanxebia gacemul sesxebSi. maxsovs adre erT-erT<br />
banks depozitebis moculoba meti hqonda, vidre gacemuli sesxebi. daisva<br />
kiTxva, Tu sad wavida es Tanxebi? pirvveli: araprofilur biznesSi<br />
(sakuTari kompaniebis SeqmnaSi), is banks ar hqonda; meore: fiqsirebul<br />
aqtivebSi, uZravi qoneba: Senoba, bankomatebi, mowyobilobebi, aveji da a.<br />
S. dadginda, rom es Tanxebi mimarTuli iyo araSemosavlian aqtivebze,<br />
anu uZrav qonebaze, rac, ra Tqma unda, sagangaSo aRmoCnda~<br />
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denime didi banki inawilebs Ti-<br />
Tqmis yvela araprofilur bizness<br />
sabanko seqtorSi da am situaciis<br />
gamosworeba Zalian<br />
rTuli saqmea.<br />
formalurad ki moxda araprofiluri<br />
biznesis gamijvna<br />
komerciuli bankebisgan, magram<br />
realurad yvelam viciT, rom<br />
ori banki (maT Soris, erT-erTi<br />
ufro didi) flobs Zalian bevr<br />
araprofilur bizness. am biznesebis<br />
Seqmna ki Tavidanve<br />
dakavSirebuli iyo am komerciul<br />
bankebTan.<br />
mTavari is aris, rom banki mis<br />
konkurent biznesebs sesxs ar<br />
aZlevs, rac konkurentuli garemos<br />
Seqmnas uSlis xels, dazaralebulebi<br />
Riad acxadeben,<br />
rom bankSi biznesis gafarToebasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli gegma waradgines,<br />
magram sesxi ver miiRes<br />
da aseTi magaliTi uamravia. Tumca<br />
mainc arsebobs sazogadoeba-<br />
Si ganwyoba, rom, realurad, martivad<br />
da sruliad Cveulebrivad<br />
xdeba biznessesxebis gacema, rasac<br />
me ar veTanxmebi.<br />
bankSi biznesisTvis sesxis asa-<br />
Rebad, Tu ar CavTvliT imas, rom<br />
likviduri qoneba unda waradgino<br />
uzrunvelyofaSi, amas emate-<br />
lia eliava<br />
dRes kvlav mougvarebelia.<br />
araprofilur biznesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
komerciul bankebSi<br />
mdgomareoba Zalian rTulia, vinaidan<br />
erovnulma bankma maT sa-<br />
Sualeba misca, TavianTi saqmianoba<br />
SeeniRbaT, raRac sxva iuridiuli<br />
forma gamoenaxaT, magram<br />
es biznesi mainc komerciuli<br />
bankebis xelSia da maTi survilis<br />
SemTxvevaSi komerciul<br />
bankebs naxevari saqarTvelos<br />
yidva SeuZliaT, mTelis Tu ara.<br />
aseve SeuZliaT, yvela im ZiriTadi<br />
sakvanZo ekonomikuri seqtorebis<br />
xelSi Cagdeba, romlebsac<br />
aravis dauTmoben. Sesabamisad,<br />
isini akeTeben imas, rasac maT<br />
erovnuli banki ar ukrZalavs.<br />
kanonSi komerciuli bankebis<br />
saqmianobis Sesaxeb zusti CamonaTvalia<br />
im saqmianobisa, romelic<br />
nebadarTulia komeciuli<br />
bankebisTvis da masSi arsad weria,<br />
rom SeuZliaT akontrolon<br />
da flobdnen im araprofilur<br />
biznesebs, romlebsac dRes<br />
floben. erovnuli banki, faqtobrivad,<br />
Tvals xuWavs xsenebuli<br />
bankebis kanonis miRma saqmianobaze<br />
da amis uflebas aZlevs<br />
maT. ver daadanaSauleb bizness,<br />
roca Seni maregulirebeli amis<br />
uflebas gaZlevs da ratom ga-<br />
Zlevs, es ukve calke gamosaZiebeli<br />
sakiTxia. _ ra interesi<br />
udevs e.b.-s am bankebSi, rom ase,<br />
kanonis miRma uflebebs uzrdis<br />
komerciul bankebs, ra dainteresebaa<br />
e.b.-Si? aris Tu ara iq<br />
raime kriminalis Semadgeneli<br />
elementi? _ es iseTi sakiTxia,<br />
romliTac sagamoZiebo struqtura<br />
unda dainteresdes.<br />
sxva mxriv, rogorc yvelam<br />
viciT, TviTon sabanko seqtorSi<br />
konkurencia ar arsebobs, bazarze<br />
oligopoliaa da maT Seu-<br />
ZliaT, ekonomikis yvela seqtor-<br />
Si mospon konkurencia da, praqtikulad,<br />
TviTon ibatonon _<br />
amis finansuri SesaZlebloba<br />
maT aqvT da saxelmwifo imisTvisaa,<br />
rom ar dauSvas romeliRac<br />
erTi, an ori bankis oligopolia.<br />
sxva bankebs misces moqmedebis<br />
saSualeba. am mxriv saxelmwifo<br />
Zalian moikoWlebs, Zalian.<br />
_ depozitebze arsebuli Tanxebi,<br />
ZiriTadad, raze ixarje-<br />
ba?<br />
_ araprofilur biznesebze,<br />
ra Tqma unda. ratom aris, rom<br />
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`erovnuli banki, faqtobrivad, Tvals<br />
xuWavs xsenebuli bankebis kanonis miRma<br />
saqmianobaze da amis uflebas aZlevs maT.<br />
ver daadanaSauleb bizness, roca Seni<br />
maregulirebeli amis uflebas gaZlevs da<br />
ratom gaZlevs, es ukve calke<br />
gamosaZiebeli sakiTxia. - ra interesi<br />
udevs e.b.-s am bankebSi, rom ase, kanonis<br />
miRma uflebebs uzrdis komerciul<br />
bankebs, ra dainteresebaa e.b.-Si? aris Tu<br />
ara iq raime kriminalis Semadgeneli<br />
elementi? - es iseTi sakiTxia, romliTac<br />
sagamoZiebo struqtura unda<br />
dainteresdes~<br />
mTel msoflioSi komerciul<br />
bankebs akrZaluli aqvT savaWro,<br />
samSeneblo, farmacevtuli saqmianoba?<br />
Tu es biznesi gakotrda,<br />
zarals miayenebs komerciul<br />
banks da mis finansur mdgradobas<br />
Zirs gamouTxris, imitomacaa,<br />
rom msoflioSi yvela maregulirebeli,<br />
garda saqarTvelosi,<br />
ukrZalavs komerciul bankebs<br />
araprofiluri biznesis warmoebas.<br />
diax, es pirdapir moqmedebs<br />
finansur mdgradobaze mTlianad,<br />
iseve, rogorc sabanko seqtorze.<br />
Cveni mosaxleobis mier<br />
depozitebze Senaxuli fuliT,<br />
an mimdinare angariSebiT, komerciuli<br />
bankebis araprofiluri<br />
biznesi sazrdoobs. diax, es asea.<br />
_ da mas Semdeg, rac 2015<br />
wels araprofiluri biznesebis<br />
regulacia SemoiRes, ra Seica-<br />
la?<br />
_ es e.b.-s wina xelisuflebis<br />
dros moxda da axlac grZldeba,<br />
Tumca suraTi igivea.<br />
maT TavianT Svilobil kompaniebs<br />
gadasces araprofiluri biznesi,<br />
es komerciulma bankebma<br />
balansidan moixsnes, magram TavianT<br />
asocirebul, afilirebul<br />
bankebs gadasces, anu, faqtobrivad,<br />
igivea, Sinaarsobrivad ara,<br />
magram forma Seicvala, iuridiuli<br />
forma Seicvala mxolod,<br />
faqtobrivad, ki igive darCa.<br />
da iciT, amas ra saSiSroeba<br />
moaqvs? _ rogorc samSeneblo<br />
seqtorSi komerciulma bankebma<br />
Sewyvites damoukidebeli samSe-<br />
neblo kompaniebis dafinanseba<br />
da mxolod TavianTi kompaniebis<br />
dafinansebaze gadavidnen, ase<br />
SeiZleba yvela seqtorSi moxdes,<br />
anu mxolod TavianTi kompaniebi<br />
daafinanson prioritetulad da<br />
dabal procentSi miscen sesxi,<br />
sxvebs ki uari uTxran, rogorc<br />
potenciur konkurents. es amaxinjebs<br />
qveynis ekonomikur struqturas<br />
da mas araefeqtians xdis.<br />
situaciis Sesacvlelad erovnulma<br />
bankma aseve, damokidebuleba<br />
unda Secvlos am problemisadmi,<br />
risi imedic me, praqtikulad,<br />
ar maqvs.<br />
komerciulma bankebma imxela<br />
finansuri gavlena moipoves sazogadoebaSi,<br />
rom isini karnaxoben<br />
erovnul banks da mTavrobas,<br />
ra gaakeTon! am situaciis<br />
gardatexa Tu ar moxda, saqarTvelo<br />
yovelTvis iqneba CamorCenili<br />
da civilizaciis kudSi<br />
madevari.<br />
`mTavari is aris, rom banki mis konkurent biznesebs sesxs ar aZlevs,<br />
rac konkurentuli garemos Seqmnas uSlis xels, dazaralebulebi<br />
Riad acxadeben, rom bankSi biznesis gafarToebasTan dakavSirebuli<br />
gegma waradgines, magram sesxi ver miiRes da aseTi magaliTi<br />
uamravia. Tumca mainc arsebobs sazogadoebaSi ganwyoba, rom,<br />
realurad, martivad da sruliad Cveulebrivad xdeba biznessesxebis<br />
gacema, rasac me ar veTanxmebi. bankSi biznesisTvis sesxis asaRebad,<br />
Tu ar CavTvliT imas, rom likviduri qoneba unda waradgino<br />
uzrunvelyofaSi, amas emateba is, rom TiTqmis samecniero naSromTan<br />
gaTanabrebuli biznesgegma unda waradgino, - es calke Temaa, anu<br />
bankebi Zalian rTulad gascemen sesxebs biznesze, radgan ar awyobT,<br />
rom konkurentebs asesxon. axla parlamentma ki daiwyo am sakiTxze<br />
muSaoba, rom gamijnon, magram meeWveba, realuri iyos, radgan aqac<br />
Zlieri sabanko lobi imuSavebs, romelic aucileblad<br />
SeewinaaRmdegeba iseTi meqanizmebis Cadebas kanonmdeblobaSi, rac maT<br />
lavirebis SesaZleblobas mouspobs sxvadasxva gziT da arxiT. ara<br />
mgonia, rame Seicvalos, radgan amas Zalian Zlieri da finansurad<br />
welSi gamarTuli mTavroba sWirdeba~<br />
SoTa gulbani _ axalgazrda<br />
finansistTa da biznesmenTa<br />
asociaciis prezidenti:<br />
_ bazarze oligopoliaa. ram-<br />
ba is, rom TiTqmis samecniero<br />
naSromTan gaTanabrebuli biznesgegma<br />
unda waradgino, _ es<br />
calke Temaa, anu bankebi Zalian<br />
rTulad gascemen sesxebs biznesze,<br />
radgan ar awyobT, rom<br />
konkurentebs asesxon.<br />
axla parlamentma ki daiwyo am<br />
sakiTxze muSaoba, rom gamijnon,<br />
magram meeWveba, realuri iyos,<br />
radgan aqac Zlieri sabanko lobi<br />
imuSavebs, romelic aucileblad<br />
SeewinaaRmdegeba iseTi meqanizmebis<br />
Cadebas kanonmdeblobaSi,<br />
rac maT lavirebis SesaZleblobas<br />
mouspobs sxvadasxva gziT da<br />
arxiT. ara mgonia, rame Seicvalos,<br />
radgan amas Zalian Zlieri<br />
da finansurad welSi gamarTuli<br />
mTavroba sWirdeba.<br />
_ 2015 wels Semotanili regulacia?<br />
maSinac xom igive pro-<br />
cesebi mimdinareobda?<br />
_ formalurad darCa. es bankebi<br />
xom arian ukve, samSeneblo,<br />
sadazRveo, farmacevtul sferoebSi<br />
CarTulebi, roca saubroben:<br />
modiT, gavmijnoT profiluri<br />
da araprofiluri biznesebio,<br />
ar aris egre, amas mxolod<br />
bavSvebi daijereben skolaSi. ig-<br />
SoTa gulbani<br />
ive situacia SenarCundeba yovelTvis,<br />
ubralod, kanonmdeblobis<br />
doneze, formalurad Sei-<br />
Zleba gaimijnos, rom bankebis<br />
saqmianoba iyos mxolod is, rac<br />
gansazRvrulia mis saqmianobad<br />
kanoniT komerciuli bankis Sesaxeb.<br />
komerciuli bankebis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonSi ki 30-e muxli mkacrad<br />
aregulirebs, rom banki parametrebs<br />
ar unda gascdes. Tu es<br />
moxda, maSin banks mkacri sasjeli<br />
elodeba, Tumca msgavsi tipis<br />
sasjeli araprofiluri aqtivebis<br />
flobis gamo aravis axsovs<br />
qarTul realobaSi.<br />
faqti ki igivea. mosaxleobis<br />
mier depozitze Senaxuli, an angariSebze<br />
arsebuli TanxebiT<br />
araprofiluri aqtivebi finansdeba,<br />
Tumca amas xom CvenTvis<br />
xeli arasdros SeuSlia, Tavis<br />
droze aviRoT kuTvnili procentebi<br />
bankidan da bankis TanamSromels<br />
vuRimoT maSin (realurad,<br />
is arafer SuaSia), roca<br />
misi zemdgomebi bizness ganvi-<br />
Tarebis saSualebas ar aZleven<br />
da qveynis ekonomikas, ubralod,<br />
anadgureben.<br />
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NDI-is kvlevis SedegebSi<br />
aSS-s erovnul-demokratiuli<br />
Tamar oTiaSvili<br />
institutis dakveTiT saqarTvel-<br />
oSi morigi sazogadoebrivi kvle-<br />
va Catarda da saintereso faqti gamoikveTa. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom moqalaqeebis winaSe mdgari umuSevrobis problema 2009<br />
wlidan ucvlelia da qveynis ZiriTad problemas warmoadgens,<br />
gaufasurebuli larisa da mZime socialur-ekonomikuri mdgo-<br />
mareobis fonze, sainteresoa, rom qveynis binadarni am wels<br />
optimisturad uyureben.<br />
aSS-s erovnul-demokratiuli<br />
institutis (NDI) dakveTiT, sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris kvlevisas, romelic<br />
kavkasiis kvleviTi resursebis<br />
centrma (CRRC), saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg, 2016 wlis 4<br />
noembridan 4 dekembris periodSi,<br />
Caatara, aRmoCnda, rom saqarTvelos<br />
winaSe mdgari mniSvnelovani<br />
erovnuli problemebis Tanmimdevroba<br />
2009 wlidan ucvlelia:<br />
umuSevroba, fasebis zrda, siRaribe,<br />
darRveuli teritoriuli<br />
mTlianoba da dabali xelfasebi.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavari erovnuli<br />
problema kvlav umuSevrobaa<br />
– aseTia gamokiTxulTa 47%-is<br />
azri (saqarTvelos masStabiT,<br />
sul, 3,141 moqalaqe gamoikiTxa),<br />
Tumca 2016 wlis zafxulTan SedarebiT<br />
(53%), es monacemi 6%-iT<br />
Semcirda. amasTan, gamokiTxulTa<br />
66% dausaqmeblad miiCnevs Tavs.<br />
meore adgilze, 36%-iT, fasebis<br />
zrda dgas, siRaribe 30%-iT mesame<br />
adgilzea, meoTxe-mexuTe adgils<br />
ki, Sesabamisad, teritoriuli<br />
mTlianoba (27%) da pensiebi (24%)<br />
ikavebs.<br />
statistikis erovnuli samsaxuris<br />
monacemebi NDI-is kvlevisgan<br />
mkveTrad gansxvavdeba, Tundac<br />
umuSevrobis TvalsazrisiT. statistikurad,<br />
mosaxleobis mxolod<br />
12%-ia dausaqmebeli (2015 w.),<br />
NDI-is kvlevis mixedviT ki _ 66%.<br />
miuxedavad arsebuli proble-<br />
mebisa, rogorc CRRC-is prezi-<br />
denti koba TurmaniZe aRniSnavs,<br />
bolo kvlevaSi mosaxleobis op-<br />
timizmi gamoikveTa: „meti xalxi<br />
moelis, rom maTi mdgomareoba<br />
gaumjobesdeba uaxloes erT weliwadSi,<br />
vidre moeloda 2016<br />
wlis dasawyisSi, an SuaSi”.<br />
ras SeiZleba emyarebodes mosaxleobis<br />
optimisturi ganwyoba?<br />
ramdenad sandoa NDI-is kv-<br />
levebi?<br />
am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„qronika+”-ma es kiTxva sxvadasxva<br />
sferos warmomadgenels daus-<br />
va.<br />
soso arCvaZe _ eqsperti:<br />
_ Tu oficialur statistikur<br />
monacemebs davujerebT (arada,<br />
sxva oficialuri wyaro axla Cven<br />
ar gvaqvs, imitom, rom garkveul<br />
kvlevebs legitimaciis done, xarisxi<br />
aklia. yvelas aqvs inflaciis,<br />
umuSevrobis, keTildReobisa<br />
da ase Semdeg aRqma, magram saSualo<br />
maCvenebeli statistikas gamohyavs),<br />
iq Cans, rom mosaxleobis<br />
Semosavlebi, maT Soris, fuladi,<br />
TviT inflaciis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />
realur ganzomilebaSi, ramdenadme<br />
izrdeba, amitom ar gamovricxav,<br />
rom am faqtormac imuSava<br />
da garkveuli roli Seasrula.<br />
sasworis pinaze gadawona _ visac<br />
28<br />
giorgi axvlediani<br />
miaCnia, rom mdgomareoba gaumjobesda,<br />
imasTan SedarebiT, vinc<br />
fiqrobs, rom gauaresda; maTi<br />
ricxvi ki, visac hgonia, rom mdgomareoba<br />
ar Secvlila, sakmarisad<br />
didia. mTavaric esaa, saSualo fena<br />
da aqcentic amaze unda gakeTdes,<br />
raTa es wili iyos mcire da<br />
pozitiuri veqtori _ gamokveTili.<br />
maSin ukeTesobisken ufro<br />
myari daskvnis SesaZlebloba gveqneba.<br />
axla, faqtobrivad, Tu, vTqvaT,<br />
17%-is azriT mdgomareoba<br />
gaumjobesda, 15% ki fiqrobs, rom<br />
gauaresda, 2%-iani dadebiTi<br />
maCvenebeli arafers niSnavs, imitom,<br />
rom mainc didi masa, 70%-ze<br />
meti, acxadebs, rom maTi mdgomareoba<br />
saerTod ar Secvlila da<br />
roca mdgomareoba ar icvleba, es<br />
minusSi unda CavTvaloT.<br />
rac Seexeba sandoobis faqtors<br />
NDI-is kvlevebTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
vfiqrob, cudi ar iqneboda,<br />
rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebamac<br />
igive statistikis erovnul<br />
samsaxurs daavalos analogiuri<br />
alternatiuli kvlevis Catareba<br />
da es informacia dados. rodesac<br />
NDI atarebs kvlevas, Cven xom viciT<br />
misi perioduloba, Sinaarsi,<br />
Tematika, ramden respondentTan<br />
aqvs kavSiri da a. S. ratom ar Sei-<br />
Zleba, es Cvenma xelisuflebamac<br />
gaakeTos? mere yvelaferi gamoCndeba,<br />
imitom, rom TviT umuSevrobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT bevri gansxvavebuli<br />
damokidebulebaa monacemebTan.<br />
martivad getyviT:<br />
gamokiTxulTa 66%-ma Tqva, rom<br />
umuSevrad miiCnevs Tavs, magram<br />
statistika mxolod 15 welze zemoT<br />
iTvlis mosaxleobas 64-wlis<br />
CaTvliT. pensionerebi ar ganekuTvnebian<br />
ekonomikurad aqtiur<br />
mosaxleobas, ar ganekuTvnebian,<br />
aseve, diasaxlisebi, dRis swavlebis<br />
studentebi, patimrebi, qronikuli<br />
avadmyofebi, SezRuduli SesaZleblobis<br />
mqone pirebi da ra<br />
vici, bevris CamoTvla SeiZleba.<br />
amitom, jamurad, 15 wlis zemoT,<br />
daaxloebiT, 60%-ia ekonomikurad<br />
aqtiuri mosaxleoba da 40% _<br />
araaqtiuri. 60%-dan 12% umuSevaria<br />
da is 40%, Tu SevekiTxebiT,<br />
ra Tqma unda, gvetyvis, _ ara, ar<br />
vmuSaobo. zogs asakiT ar ekuTvnis<br />
muSaoba, zogs _ janmrTelobis<br />
mdgomareobis gamo, zogi diasaxlisia<br />
da ar ganekuTvneba ekonomikurad<br />
aqtiur mosaxleobas.<br />
mokled, statistika iZleva 12%-s<br />
da NDI-s kvleva _ 66%-s, magram Tu<br />
sxvanairad davTvliT, maSin cdomileba,<br />
ra Tqma unda, gacilebiT<br />
naklebi iqneba.<br />
giorgi axvlediani _ „demok-<br />
ratiuli moZraoba _ erTiani<br />
saqarTvelo”:<br />
_ NDI-is kvlevebTan mimarTebiT<br />
Zalian didi skepticizmi maqvs. mimaCnia,<br />
rom, saerTod, NDI-is kvleva<br />
aranairad ar emsaxureba sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris gamokvlevas.<br />
es aris ara kvleva, aramed sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris formirebis mcdeloba,<br />
anu es aris is instrumenti,<br />
romliTac, am SemTxvevaSi, SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis demokratiuli<br />
partia (NDI-i misi institutia)<br />
cdilobs, qarTulma sazogadoebam<br />
ise<br />
ifiqros, rogorc<br />
mas unda;<br />
qarTul<br />
sazogadoe<br />
b a s<br />
Camouy-<br />
soso arCvaZe<br />
SoTa gulbani<br />
alibdes gemovneba, hqondes<br />
garkveuli xedvebi. miuxedavad<br />
amisa, maTi kvlevebi TanxvedraSi<br />
arasodes yofila yvelaze realur<br />
kvlevasTan, rogoric<br />
arCevnebia. Sors rom ar wavideT,<br />
bolo arCevnebi amis naTeli magaliTia.<br />
praqtikulad, maTi arc<br />
erTi prognozi arc erT politikur<br />
partiasTan mimarTebiT ar<br />
emTxveoda, absoluturi acdenebi<br />
iyo yvela realur SedegTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rac pirdapirproporciulad<br />
metyvelebs,<br />
rom, rogorc giTxariT, NDI-is kvleva<br />
aris ara kvleva, aramed sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris formirebis<br />
mcdeloba da sanam Cven mas saSualebas<br />
mivcemT, rom Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
sazogadoebrivi azris aseTi<br />
manipulireba da mis formirebaze<br />
garkveuli zegavlena moaxdinos,<br />
is amas ganaxorcielebs. arada, am<br />
dros saqarTveloSi sociologiis<br />
uzarmazari resursia.<br />
rac Seexeba optimizms, getyviT,<br />
rom aq araferi gansakuTebulad<br />
sakvlevi ar aris, qarTveli<br />
kaci bunebiT optimistia da, saer-<br />
Tod, optimizmi, es aris Zala,<br />
romelic adamians urTules<br />
pirobebSi aZlebinebs. optimizmi<br />
rom ar hqondes, nebismieri sirTulis<br />
winaSe, praqtikulad, ganadgurdeboda.<br />
amitom, rac unda<br />
rTuli viTareba iyos Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
ekonomikuri, laris kursis<br />
da a. S. TvalsazrisiT, adamianuri<br />
optimizmi mainc Zlieria.<br />
SoTa gulbani _ „axalgazrda<br />
finansistTa da biznesmenTa aso-<br />
ciacia”:<br />
_ zogadad, Cemi midgoma NDI-is<br />
proeqtTan dakavSirebiT cota<br />
subieqturia. ara mgonia, rom isini<br />
Tavad wyvetdnen sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris garkvevasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT mniSvnelovan sakiTxebs.<br />
zeda donezea es yvelaferi SeTanxmebuli.<br />
NDI-i amerikuli organizaciaa<br />
da maTi mxridan erTgvari<br />
mesijia, rom unda SenarCundes<br />
mTavroba, romelic mocemul<br />
etapze qveyanas marTavs. Sesabamisad,<br />
am kvlevaSi unda dafiqsirebuliyo,<br />
rom, ase vTqvaT, xalxis<br />
umetesobas moswons aRebuli kursi<br />
da optimisturad aris ganwyobili.<br />
uaryofiTi Sedegi rom dafiqsirebuliyo,<br />
es pirdapir mianiSnebda<br />
imaze, rom amerika ar aris<br />
mxardamWeri im mTavrobis, romelic<br />
Cvens saxelmwifos, am etapze,<br />
hyavs. es aris yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
faqtori am kvlevidan, sxva<br />
danarCeni meorexarisxovania. piarspecialistebs<br />
rom hkiTxoT, iq<br />
Zalian didi cdomilebaa da sandoobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT bevri ki-<br />
Txvis niSani Cndeba am organizaciis<br />
Catarebul kvlevebTan mimarTebiT.<br />
amerikuli organizacia<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobas eubneba,<br />
am etapze Cven varT Tqveni megobrebi<br />
da Tqven unda marToT qveyana,<br />
imitom, rom xalxi fiqrobs<br />
ase. mocemulobaa aseTi, rac<br />
Sesabamisad imas niSnavs,<br />
rom garkveuli periodis<br />
ganmavlobaSi mTavrobis<br />
cvlilebas ar unda<br />
velodoT.<br />
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vano galaxvariZe 2010 wlidan<br />
Telavis TviTmmarTvelobaSi sakrebulos wevria. igi aras-<br />
dros yofila saxelisuflebo rgolis warmomadgeneli,<br />
yovelTvis umciresobaSi gaxldaT. bolo mowvevis sakrebulo-<br />
Si sofel kondolis maJoritari deputati iyo. aseve xelmZR-<br />
vanelobda fraqcias. saparlamento arCevnebis dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg saqarTvelo datova da am droisTvis amerikis SeerTe-<br />
bul StatebSi cxovrobs. ambobs, rom saqarTveloSi poli-<br />
tikuri devnis obieqtad iqca da iZulebuli gaxda, qveyana da-<br />
etovebina, raTa mis ojaxs mis gamo problemebi ar Seqmnoda.<br />
„qronika+”-s vano galaxvariZe<br />
esaubreba:<br />
_ sakmaod grZeli politikuri<br />
cxovrebis gza gaiareT, Tumca,<br />
miuxedavad mravali uTanxmoebisa,<br />
qveyana arasdros dagi-<br />
tovebiaT.<br />
_ diax. 2004-2006 wlebSi „konservatiuli<br />
partiis” Telavis<br />
organizaciis Tavmjdomare viyavi,<br />
2006 wels adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebSic viyare<br />
kenWi, Tumca, rogorc xdeba xolme,<br />
xmebis gayalbebiT maSin sakrebuloSi<br />
ver movxvdi. 2008 wlis<br />
martidan „qristian demokratebis”<br />
wevri viyavi, anu daarsebis<br />
dRidan. 2010 wels kenWi viyare<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis adgilobriv<br />
arCevnebSi da sakrebulos deputati<br />
gavxdi, 2012 wlamde ufleba<br />
ar momces, rom saerTo politikur<br />
Tanamoazreebs fraqcia<br />
Segveqmna. mwared maxsendeba is<br />
periodi, radgan Cvens arc erT<br />
iniciativas arc ki ismendnen. 2014<br />
wels ukve „qristian demokratebi”<br />
nino burjanaZes SeuerTdnen<br />
da swored am gaerTianebuli partiidan<br />
viyare kenWi Telavis Temis<br />
municipalitetis adgilobriv<br />
TviTmmarTvelobaSi sofel kondolidan,<br />
sadac xmebis 70%-ze<br />
meti miviRe. Sesabamisad, sakrebuloSic<br />
movxvdi da fraqciis<br />
Tavmjdomarec viyavi.<br />
2016 wels gadavwyvite, saparlamento<br />
arCevnebSi meyara kenWi<br />
da burWulaZis partiidan Semo-<br />
Tavazeba miviRe, saidanac viyare<br />
kidec kenWi da ai, maSin daiwyo,<br />
Tu daiwyo Cemi da Cemi axloblebis<br />
Seviwroeba. sabolood, cnobilia,<br />
rom TelavSi sesiaSvilma<br />
gaimarjva, me ki saqarTvelo davtove,<br />
radgan, ubralod, Cemi iq<br />
darCena aRar SeiZleboda.<br />
_ ufro konkretulad, ra<br />
mizeziT datoveT qveyana?!<br />
_ „ocnebis” warmomadgenlebisTvis<br />
Tavidanve miuRebeli viyavi.<br />
Tu Tvals gadaavlebT da sakrebulos<br />
sxdomebs naxavT, advilad<br />
mixvdebiT, ra Seurigebeli brZo-<br />
la mqonda adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
TavgasulobasTan, amavdroulad,<br />
guberniidan miRebul<br />
miTiTebebs vakritikebdi. magaliTad,<br />
maxsovs, rom guberniam,<br />
kerZod, gubernatorma, davaleba<br />
gasca, Telavis Temis municipalitets<br />
1 milionad Sefasebuli<br />
mZime transporti „kamacu” droebiT<br />
sargeblobaSi gadascemoda,<br />
romelic biujetidan seriozul<br />
dafinansebas iTxovda da isedac<br />
mwiri Semosavlebisa da biujetis<br />
fonze SeuZlebeli iyo sxvis sakuTrebaSi<br />
arsebuli nivTis movla-partonoba.<br />
e. i. Cven Cvens moqalaqeebs<br />
jibidan fuls varTmevdiT.<br />
maSin sakiTxi davayene, _<br />
an gvaCuqon, an Tavad mouaron...<br />
sanacvlod sakrebulom ar damijera,<br />
Tumca Cemma uaxloesma<br />
adamianebma gamafrTxiles, rom<br />
gubernatori Cemi gamosvliT ganrisxda<br />
da damemuqra, _ Tu WkuiT<br />
ar moviqceodi, Cems fraqcias<br />
daSlidnen.<br />
_ anu gubernatori gebrZo-<br />
daT?<br />
_ piradad CemTvis arasdros<br />
araferi uTqvams. me ar vici, igi<br />
mebrZoda Tu misi saxeliT sxvebi,<br />
Tumca roca gadavwyvite, saparlamento<br />
arCevnebSi kenWi meyara,<br />
fraqciis erT-erTma wevrma<br />
miTxra, rom guberniisa da adgilobrivi<br />
xelisuflebis zewoliT<br />
fraqcia datova, ramac kanonmdeblobiT<br />
fraqciis daSla gamoiwvia.<br />
ra Tqma unda, es iyo mizanmimarTuli<br />
qmedeba, rom xelfasi<br />
ar mqonoda, adamianebs ki daenaxaT,<br />
rom damsajes... samagierod,<br />
sxvebisTvis gamxdariyo magaliTi,<br />
rom maTac mouwevdaT dasja da<br />
Cem gverdiT yvela adamiani daisjeboda.<br />
asec moxda, _ Cemi Zveli<br />
megobrebi Tu Tanamoazreebi<br />
yvela cdilobda, CemTan urTier-<br />
Tobas morideboda, radgan maT<br />
konkretulad sTxovdnen, rom<br />
CemTan aranairi komunikacia ar<br />
hqonodaT, problemebi SeeqmnebodaT<br />
samsaxurebrivadac da sxva<br />
mxriv. siamayiT aRvniSnav, rom er-<br />
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vano galaxvariZe:<br />
`mwared<br />
maxsendeba is<br />
periodi, radgan<br />
arc erT Cvens<br />
iniciativas arc<br />
ki ismendnen~<br />
TaderTi adamiani, sakrebulos<br />
wevri (Tumca, _ ara Cemi fraqciis),<br />
magram Cemi Tanamoazre, zaza<br />
raibuli, Cem gamo araerTxel gaafrTxiles<br />
da riskis qveS aRmoCnda,<br />
magram man Tavis principebs ar<br />
uRalata da bolomde gverdiT<br />
medga erTgulad. finalSi arCevnebi<br />
wavage. meore turis CaniSvnamde<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis erTerTi<br />
maRalCinosani damikavSirda<br />
da maRal Tanamdebobaze samsaxuri<br />
SemomTavaza. Cveni molaparakeba<br />
ver Sedga im erTi martivi<br />
mizezis gamo, rom me ar SemeZlo<br />
im partiis kandidatis dasaxmareblad<br />
memuSava, romeli partiac<br />
qveyanas dRiTi dRe Rupavs.<br />
mxolod erT winadadebas vambob<br />
ukve aTeuli welia: „qveyana<br />
iRupeba, vuSveloT, xalxo!” magram,<br />
samwuxarod, bolo ar Cans.<br />
swored amas mohyva Cemi dabareba<br />
saxelmwifo auditSi, sadac, ZiriTadad,<br />
mekiTxebodnen, saidan<br />
vfinansdebodi, ra Tanxebi mqonda<br />
daxarjuli saarCevnod, anu<br />
Semosavlebisa da gasavlis damalvis<br />
dabraleba undodaT... imave<br />
periodSi gamafrTxilebeli Setyobineba<br />
miviRe: „vano, frTxilad!”<br />
da mivxvdi, _ Cem dasasjelad<br />
ukve yvelaferze iqnebodnen wamsvlelebi.<br />
_ dRes sad xarT?<br />
_ dRes ukve amerikaSi var mec<br />
da Cemi kolega megobari zaza<br />
raibulic.<br />
_ sabolood waxvediT?<br />
_ ara, gvaiZules, qveyana dagvetovebina...<br />
ramdenime adamianma<br />
arCevnebis dasrulebis Semdeg<br />
gagvafrTxila, rom sus-Si muSavdeboda<br />
gegma, rogor unda davepatimrebineT<br />
da Cvenze sisxlis<br />
samarTlis danaSauli SeeTiTxnaT.<br />
aseve, im Cvenma keTilis msurvelebma<br />
gvirCies, droulad<br />
dagvetovebina qveyana da amiT<br />
mainc gadagverCina Tavi.<br />
_ ratom? ratom unda aReZraT<br />
saqme?<br />
_ ver xvdebiT, ra xdeba saqarTveloSi?<br />
samagaliTo dasja<br />
iwyeba, vinc xelisuflebis azris<br />
winaaRmdeg wava, yvela daisjeba.<br />
_ zaza raibulsac igive<br />
uTxres?<br />
_ igive gaumeores.<br />
_ SegiZliaT daakonkretoT,<br />
vin geubnebodaT?<br />
_ Cven saqarTveloSi ojaxebi<br />
gvyavs, rac imas niSnavs, rom maTi<br />
usafrTxoeba CvenTvis axla mTavaria,<br />
amitom, am etapze, im adamianebis<br />
vinaobas ver vasajaroebT,<br />
Tumca yvelafers Tavisi dro<br />
aqvs. odesRac Cvenc davbrundebiT<br />
da simarTles vityviT.<br />
_ zaza raibuli sxva fraqci-<br />
is Tavmjdomare iyo, kerZod,<br />
„mrewvelebis” da sxva politik-<br />
ur organizacias warmoadgenda,<br />
Tumca, rogorc ambobT, masac<br />
aseve devnidnen...<br />
_ zaza raibuli Cemi megobaria<br />
da is swored Cemi megobrobis<br />
gamo araerTxel gaafrTxiles.<br />
saqarTvelo is qveyanaa, sadac megobroba<br />
dasjadia. mere ra, rom<br />
is sxva fraqciisa da politikuri<br />
organizaciis warmomadgeneli<br />
iyo?! ggoniaT, es rames niSnavs?<br />
da ra ggoniaT, im politikuri<br />
organizaciisTvis vano galaxvariZe<br />
misaRebi iyo? bunebrivia, _<br />
ara.<br />
_ dabolos, ras etyodiT<br />
Tqvens amomrCevels, vinc, Tavis<br />
droze, agirCiaT?<br />
_ maqsimalurad Sevecade, rom<br />
yvela Tqvenganis ufleba damecva,<br />
Txovna Semesrulebina, magram<br />
SeuZlebeli ver SevZeli... sanam<br />
qveyanas saxelisuflebo rgoli<br />
Zireulad ar Secvlis, manamde ar<br />
vici, ra gveSveleba, davtove saqarTvelo<br />
da Cems amomrCevelTan<br />
erTad davtove Cemi ojaxic. ra<br />
iqneba xval, zeg?! aucileblad<br />
davbrundebi. vwuxvar, rom dRes<br />
adamianebi saqarTveloSi qveynis<br />
siyvarulisTvis isjebian.<br />
Telavis Temis municipalitet-<br />
Si aRniSnul Temaze komentars ar<br />
akeTeben. sakrebuloSi ki gangvimartes,<br />
rom sakrebulos deputats<br />
kanonmdeblobiT SeuZlia,<br />
samsaxurSi da sakrebulos sxdomebze<br />
6 Tve ar gamocxaddes, es<br />
kanonmdeblobiT dadgenilia. Sesabamisad,<br />
romeli deputati sad<br />
aris, ar ician da, am etapze, arc<br />
interesdebian. gagonili aqvT,<br />
rom galaxvariZem da raibulma<br />
qveyana datoves, Tumca deputatebs<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris-<br />
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marTlos mivmarTe. mcxeTis raionul<br />
sasamarTloSi meored movige,<br />
magram vxvdebodi, rom mainc uars<br />
metyodnen da sxva raRacas moimizezebdnen.<br />
gamgeobam es gadawyvetileba<br />
ar gaasaCivra, e. i. sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas daeTanxma,<br />
magram, paralelurad, prokuraturaSi<br />
miCivla, TiTqos es miwa<br />
TaRliTurad mivitace. gamoZieba<br />
daiwyo. rogorc Semdeg davrwmundi,<br />
prokuraturam TianeTis poli-<br />
miTxres, cixeSi wasvla mogiwevso.<br />
ar davTme, mec magrad davdeqi! _<br />
sasamarTlom gamauqmebinos-meTqi!<br />
jer erTi, policias ra ufleba<br />
hqonda, rom iq mawerinebda xels<br />
registraciis gauqmebis Sesaxeb.<br />
amasobaSi, meoredac dagvibares,<br />
Tan gveubnebian, zustad 10:00 saa-<br />
Tze modiTo, sxva dros es ar uTqvamT.<br />
Turme, ratom _ gamgeblis<br />
moadgile, mamuli mamulaSvili,<br />
romelic zaqaria qucnaSvilis mar-<br />
es saqme zaqaria qucnaSvils ver<br />
gaukeTa, radgan ar davTmeT! amis<br />
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yvela mtkicebuleba davde,<br />
rom arafer SuaSi viyavi da es miwis<br />
nakveTi jer sxvaze iyo gaformebuli<br />
da mere Sevisyide. visganac<br />
Sevisyide, es kaci Cvens mxares<br />
dadga, magram policiam SeaSina da<br />
isic Cvenze gabrazda, _ ratom gamixadeT<br />
saqme ise, rom policiaSi<br />
matarebTo? dRes iseTi gamwarebu-<br />
naTela mamulaSvili:<br />
`TianeTelebi<br />
rogor vifiqrebdiT,<br />
rom zaqaria<br />
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mZarcveli<br />
gamodgeboda?!~<br />
yeb, rom Cvens korpuss Zalian didi<br />
SemoRobili ezo hqonda. maSindelma<br />
aRmaskomis Tavmjdomarem nebar-<br />
Tva mogvca, rom iq avtofarexebi<br />
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da saxsrebi ar gvqonda, agve-<br />
Senebina. dokumenti, rom 40 ojaxs<br />
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gamoyofili hqonda, dResac gvaqvs.<br />
Cveni quCis mxares 11-metriani<br />
mTliani zolia, daaxloebiT, 70-80<br />
m. sigrZis, patara jixurebi dgas.<br />
am adgilze erT-erTi adamianisgan<br />
kanonierad Sevisyide registrirebuli<br />
70 kv.m. farTis miwa, sadac<br />
ori patara oTaxis aSeneba davapire.<br />
miwis Sesyidva moxda 2012<br />
wlis zafxulSi, arCevnebamde. „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” mxardamWeri viyavi,<br />
TianeTSi deputatobis kandidati<br />
zaqaria qucnaSvili iyo, biZina<br />
ivaniSvilma Camogviyvana da ras<br />
warmovidgendiT, rom aseTi mZarcveli<br />
gamodgeboda?!<br />
_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />
_ imas, rom zaqaria qucnaSvilma<br />
TianeTs gadaxeda-gadmoxeda, es<br />
adgilebi moewona, xalxmravalia<br />
ba ameSenebina, uari gamomicxada. am<br />
profiliT vmuSaob, yvela norma<br />
da wesi vici, vusabuTebdi, rom<br />
ukanonod meubnebodnen uars. amas<br />
rom mivwerdi, mere uars sxva<br />
mizeziT meubnebodnen. mokled, vxvdebodi,<br />
rom mizanmimarTulad ar<br />
maSenebinebdnen. paralelurad,<br />
xmebi momdioda, rom es adgili da<br />
Sida ezo zaqaria qucnaSvils undoda.<br />
avdeqi da sasamarTlos mivmarTe.<br />
sasamarTlom gadawyvetileba<br />
Cem sasargeblod gamoitana da<br />
gamgeoba gaamtyuna. es brZola 2014<br />
wels daiwyo. rodesac uars meubnebodnen,<br />
ra ar movimoqmede, 2015<br />
wels sasamarTlosac mivmarTe,<br />
movige, magram araferi gamomivida.<br />
patara Senoba unda aSenebuliyo<br />
(es gaxlavT pirveli klasis Senoba,<br />
nebarTva da proeqti ar sWirdeboda,<br />
Tavis droze, esec ukanonod<br />
momTxoves, rom gamekeTebina).<br />
avdeqi da am kanonis moSveliebiT<br />
daviwye mSenebloba. rogorc ki<br />
dainaxes, maSinve gafrTxileba momitanes<br />
jarimebis muqariT da dawyebuli<br />
mSenebloba Cemi xeliT damangrevines.<br />
amis Semdeg isev sasa-<br />
cias daavala, rom SeveSinebine da<br />
es adgili dameTmo. am teritoriaze<br />
ramdenime savaWro jixuri<br />
dgas, sadac wvrilmani saqoneli iyideba.<br />
sasamarTlo procesze<br />
Tqves, mTliani teritoria gamgeobas<br />
undao. sinamdvileSi, gamgebels<br />
vin hkiTxavs? _ gamgebeli<br />
zaqaria qucnaSvils uyurebs TvalebSi<br />
da is rasac ubrZanebs, imas<br />
akeTebs. kiTxva rom davsvi, _ ras<br />
uzamT am jixurebis patronebsmeTqi?<br />
_ kompensacias miscemen da<br />
magaTac aiRebeno. ukve gasagebi<br />
iyo yvelaferi...<br />
_ policiis mxridan zewola<br />
axseneT, riT gamoixateboda?<br />
_ me da kidev erTi qalbatoni,<br />
romelic saqmeSi Cemi partnioria,<br />
policiaSi ramdenjerme dagvibares<br />
da verbalurad Zaladobdnen,<br />
fizikurad ver Segvexen, magram policiis<br />
ufrosis moadgile magidasTan<br />
furcels mimarjvebda, _<br />
dawere axlave da gaauqme es registracia,<br />
eg adgili daTme, Torem,<br />
Senze saqmea aRZruli jgufuri<br />
TaRliTobis braldebiTo. safuZvlad<br />
mZime danaSauli damides da<br />
jvena xelia, mouravad hyavs daniSnuli<br />
da misi xeliT akeTebs, tenderebia<br />
Tu sxva saqme. Cven vsxedvarT<br />
policiis ufrosis moadgilis<br />
kabinetSi, igi gvemuqreba, gva-<br />
Zalebs, muqariT fsiqologiur zewolas<br />
axdens. es kari pirdapir<br />
uyurebs policiis ufrosis kabinetis<br />
kars. davinaxeT, rom mamuli<br />
fexakrebiT Sevida policiis ufrosTan.<br />
zustad 10:00 saaTisTvis<br />
imitom dagvibares, rom zaqaria<br />
qucnaSvilisTvis epatakebinaT,<br />
SevaSineT da daTmeso. ar davTmeT!<br />
Semdeg miviyvane uflebadamcveli,<br />
advokati mamuka tuskaZe, masac<br />
Zalian uxeSad moeqcnen. mamukam<br />
uTxra, _ nu ZaladobT, sityvierad<br />
iqneba es Tu fizikurad, ra<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs, ar SeiZlebao. am<br />
dros policiis ufrosis moadgile,<br />
beso berianiZe, romelic, sxvaTa<br />
Soris, mere samsaxuridan<br />
gauSves „nacionalebis” faruli<br />
agentobis motiviT, gadmodga da<br />
gveubneba, _ sul erTia, Tqven<br />
mainc waxvalT cixeSi da 7 wlamde<br />
patimroba gemuqrebaTo. mamuli ki<br />
Sevida policiis ufrosTan, magram<br />
lia, axlos ver vekarebiT, kontaqtze<br />
aRar gamodis. amis Semdeg<br />
mosamarTles mtkicebuleba davude,<br />
rom am kacis saxelze 2800<br />
kv.m. miwa unda iyos sakuTrebaSi, am<br />
farTobSi 5 nakveTi aqvs daregistrirebuli,<br />
amonawerebi me TviTon<br />
amoviRe da daTvla vTxove. _ 2799<br />
kv.m. aqvs daregistrirebuli, 1 kv.m.<br />
kidev hmarTebs saxelmwifos da me<br />
romeli saxelmwifo sakuTreba miviTvise-meTqi?<br />
es mtkicebulad miiRo<br />
mosamarTlem, raRas medavebian<br />
an me, an im kacs?! amis Semdeg<br />
procesebi SeCerda da es saqme<br />
Taroze Semodes, brals ver mdeben.<br />
sasamarTlos imedi maqvs. ar mgonia,<br />
ise bnelodes, rom zaqaria<br />
qucnaSvilis TxovniT usamarTlo<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRon, magram<br />
prokuraturas daavala, romelmac<br />
aSkara cru da SeTiTxnili braldeba<br />
dagvido. im saqmeSi imdeni<br />
niuansi iyo, Tundac is, rom gamo-<br />
Ziebam Tvali daxuWa beWedze da xelmoweraze,<br />
romliTac adgilobrivi<br />
rwmunebuli Tanxmobas aZlevda,<br />
rom es adgili im kacze daregistrirebuliyo,<br />
es ar dainaxes.<br />
30<br />
30 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.
mokled, axla procesebi SeCerebulia,<br />
magram saqme prokuraturaSi<br />
devs da msvleloba midis.<br />
_ amiT Tqven imas ambobT, rom<br />
gamgeobis meSveobiT gebrZviT<br />
zaqaria qucnaSvili? ra interesi<br />
aqvs Tqvens deputats, rom es miwa<br />
wagarTvaT?<br />
_ diax, asea! Cven gverdiT qucnaSvilma<br />
sastumro aaSena, Tumca,<br />
oficialurad, misi saxeli da<br />
gvari ar figurirebs. rodesac naxes,<br />
rom es farTi ver damaTmobines,<br />
SuaSi var gaCxerili da mTlian<br />
zols veRar miierTebda, korpusis<br />
Sida ezo, 7200 kv.m., romelzedac<br />
nebarTva gvaqvs, rom avtosadgomebi<br />
mogvewyo, is Semoixaza da am sastumros<br />
miaerTa, saxelmwifos sakuTreba<br />
daarqva, rom qucnaSvilis<br />
gvari ar gamoCeniliyo da arasasoflo<br />
uwoda, anu miwas kategoria<br />
Seucvales. manamde arsad Canda,<br />
Tavisufali teritoria iyo: odes-<br />
Rac SemoRobili gvqonda, stadioni<br />
iyo mowyobili, bavSvebi Tama-<br />
Sobdnen, frenburTis moedani iyo<br />
mowyobili. gaWirvebis wlebi rom<br />
gvedga, maSin ganadgurda, boZebic<br />
ki moipares. Riad rom iyo, moixaza<br />
es adgili da miierTa. amis garda,<br />
TianeTSi, xuT adgilze, yvelaze<br />
kargi adgilebi sadac moewona,<br />
yvelgan ase daarqva _ saxelmwifo<br />
sakuTreba _ da TavisTvis gaimzada.<br />
adgilebs gaCvenebT, sadac TianeTis<br />
municipalitetis soflebs<br />
miwebi waarTva, gaWirvebuli raionia,<br />
xalxi ukiduresad gaRaribebulia.<br />
naxirs rom garekavdnen tye-<br />
Si, sadac carieli adgilebia datovebuli,<br />
yvelgan Semoixaza.<br />
_ Tqvenma mezoblebma ar idav-<br />
es?<br />
_ korpusis mcxovreblebma, amxanagobam<br />
davwereT gancxadeba da<br />
am miwis ukan dabrunebaze vdaobT.<br />
ekonomikis saministros vedavebiT,<br />
ra ufleba hqonda, rom miwis kategoria<br />
Secvala, arc ki movida da<br />
SegvekiTxa? xelmowerebiT dafiqsirebulia,<br />
sadac Cemi gvaric figurirebs<br />
da es saqme sasamarTloSi<br />
SevitaneT. sasamarTlom warmoeba-<br />
Si miiRo, oRond procesebi jer ar<br />
dawyebula. zaqaria qucnaSvilma<br />
TianeTSi iseTi raRacebi Caidina,<br />
magram TviTon ar Cndeba...<br />
am adamianma TavzexelaRebulad<br />
maqcia, 61 wlis qali var, raRa<br />
dros Cemi politika iyo, magram<br />
iZulebuli gamxada, rom vebrZolo,<br />
es informacia gavusajaroo<br />
mainc. ratom unda imalebodes ase-<br />
Ti saqmeebi?! sxva SemTxvevac iyo,<br />
trasis gaswvriv obolma Zmebma miwa<br />
gainawiles, ori nakveTi daregistrirda,<br />
gamgeobidan daarekina,<br />
rom eg erTi, gzis pirze romelic<br />
mdebareobs, gaauqmeT registracia,<br />
Torem saqmes prokuraturaSi dagidebTo.<br />
isic vici, visac daarekina,<br />
magram amjerad ar davasaxeleb.<br />
uceb davreke Cems uflebebis damcvelTan,<br />
mamuka tuskaZesTan, Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia, telefoniTac moismines<br />
saubari, meti am nakveTs aRar Sexebian.<br />
mamukam im biWs daureka da<br />
uTxra, _ Tu kidev movidnen, gadmomirekeo<br />
da iq gaCerda es ambavi,<br />
magram Cems saqmes ukve msvleloba<br />
hqonda micemuli da kidev gr-<br />
Zeldeba. 15 agvistos Semdeg arc<br />
erTi procesi ar Catarebula, manamde<br />
6-7 procesi Catarda da Tavs<br />
vimarTlebdiT, an ra maqvs Tavis<br />
samarTlebeli, ar vici? magram<br />
sisxlis samarTlis braldeba wamiyenes<br />
jgufuri TaRliTobisTvis<br />
da 4-dan 7 wlamde cixe gekuTvniso,<br />
aseTi muqarebiT da daSinebiT<br />
modiodnen, magram mainc magrad<br />
davdeqi da ar davTme! mokled, ori<br />
saqmea sasamarTloSi am nakveTebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. 2016 wlis arCevnebisTvis<br />
„patriotTa aliansis”<br />
wevri gavxdi. CvenTan am partiidan<br />
maJoritarobis deputatobis kandidati<br />
irma cxoragauli gaxldaT.<br />
roca TianeTSi Camovida, gverdiT<br />
davudeqi, StabSi vikribebodiT da<br />
sakuTari TvaliT vnaxe, rom zaqaria<br />
qucnaSvilisgan gamwarebuli uamravi<br />
adamiani modioda da sxvadasxva<br />
kompromati mohqonda masze.<br />
ramdenime mec movipove. Tundac<br />
tenderis erT magaliTs getyviT:<br />
zaqaria iqac ar Cndeba, am yvelafers<br />
gamgeobas akeTebinebs, gamgebeli<br />
lela qitesaSvilia, romelsac<br />
Zalian Rrmad Seatopina.<br />
amonabeWdi maqvs, 4 wlis manZilze<br />
iseTi tenderebi gauSves... magali-<br />
Tad, tenders acxadeben aseT<br />
rameze: gamgeobas hyavs 11 samsaxurebrivi<br />
manqana, aq ar aris<br />
saubari benzinsa da sxva rameze, mxolod<br />
ianvridan dekembris CaTvliT,<br />
erTi wlis manZilze, 11 avtomanqanis<br />
teqnikuri SekeTeba, 4<br />
wlis manZilze davajameT da 518<br />
000 laria daxarjuli. warmoidgineT,<br />
es Tanxa naxevar milions 18<br />
000-iT aRemateba da am tenderiT<br />
aris gasuli. aris Tu ara es biujetis<br />
Zarcva?! zaqaria qucnaSvili<br />
gamgebels yvela nabijs, yvela<br />
wertils da mZimes karnaxobs.<br />
_ am tenderebs vin igebs, adgilobriv<br />
xelisuflebasTan dakav-<br />
Sirebuli kompaniebi arian?<br />
_ erTaderTi adamiani hyavT,<br />
romelsac TianeTSi avtoprofilaqtika<br />
aqvs, mxolod is monawileobs.<br />
erTxel sxva avtoservisma<br />
Seitana ganacxadi, TqvenTan warmodgenil<br />
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75 000-ze Camovidnen da radgan<br />
mcire Tanxiani iyo, es tenderi<br />
gaauqmes da xelaxla Caatares did<br />
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Tanxa ar awyobdaT. mokled:<br />
4 wlis manZilze 11 avtomanqanis<br />
SekeTeba naxevar milionze 18<br />
000 lariT kidev meti, aris Tu ara<br />
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`ekonomikis saministros vedavebiT, ra ufleba<br />
hqonda, rom miwis kategoria Secvala, arc ki<br />
movida da SegvekiTxa? xelmowerebiT<br />
dafiqsirebulia, sadac Cemi gvaric figurirebs da<br />
es saqme sasamarTloSi SevitaneT. sasamarTlom<br />
warmoebaSi miiRo, oRond procesebi jer ar<br />
dawyebula. zaqaria qucnaSvilma TianeTSi iseTi<br />
raRacebi Caidina, magram TviTon ar Cndeba... am<br />
adamianma TavzexelaRebulad maqcia, 61 wlis qali<br />
var, raRa dros Cemi politika iyo, magram<br />
iZulebuli gamxada, rom vebrZolo, es informacia<br />
gavusajaroo mainc. ratom unda imalebodes aseTi<br />
saqmeebi?! sxva SemTxvevac iyo, trasis gaswvriv<br />
obolma Zmebma miwa gainawiles, ori nakveTi<br />
daregistrirda, gamgeobidan daarekina, rom eg<br />
erTi, gzis pirze romelic mdebareobs, gaauqmeT<br />
registracia, Torem saqmes prokuraturaSi<br />
dagidebTo. isic vici, visac daarekina, magram<br />
amjerad ar davasaxeleb. uceb davreke Cems<br />
uflebebis damcvelTan, mamuka tuskaZesTan,<br />
SesaZlebelia, telefoniTac moismines saubari,<br />
meti am nakveTs aRar Sexebian~<br />
es biujetis Zarcva da Tundac am<br />
erTi faqtiT mtkicdeba Tu ara is,<br />
rom ramxelaze Seatopina gamgebels<br />
Tavisi karnaxiT qucnaSvilma?!<br />
iq hyavs kidev gamgeblis moadgile<br />
mamuli mamulaSvili, romlis saSualebiTac<br />
garigebebs awarmoebs.<br />
kidev vici uamravi ram, garda im 5<br />
nakveTisa, romelic Cems korpusTan<br />
mdebareobs da saxelmwifo<br />
sakuTrebebi daarqva, aseTi uamravi<br />
adgilia, TviTon ki ar Cndeba,<br />
magram 100%-iani eWvi arsebobs,<br />
rom TavisTvis gaimzada, mere isev<br />
TavianTi miRebuli mzakvruli<br />
kanonebiT erT larad, simbolur<br />
fasad misi sakuTreba gaxdeba. vis<br />
moasuninebs axla sxvas maJoritari<br />
TianeTSi?! suraTebi mogitaneT,<br />
SexedeT, ramxela korpusia, 5-<br />
sarTuliani, aq adre saavadmyofo<br />
Sendeboda, magram qveyana rom<br />
daingra, haerSi gamokidebuli<br />
darCa. „nacionalebis” momxre ar<br />
var, magram arCevnebis win siebs<br />
adgendnen, rom usaxlkaro adamianebisTvis<br />
es korpusebi binebad<br />
gaenawilebinaT. xalxi sixaruliT<br />
midioda da ewereboda, CvenTanac<br />
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mosakrebels jiutad mTxovdnen.<br />
_ sxva drosac mouTxoviaT<br />
sakrebulos deputatisTvis sa-<br />
jaro dokumentaciis Tanxa?<br />
32<br />
_ Cemi kolegebisTvis fuli<br />
arasdros mouTxoviaT, magram<br />
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es fuli rom meSova, gadamexada<br />
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informacia damWirveboda gamosaTxovad,<br />
e. i. valebiT unda gamekeTebina<br />
sakrebuloSi Cemi saqme;<br />
an, kidev, dokumentebi Tu ar gamoviTxove,<br />
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vfiqrob, ase imitom iqcevian,<br />
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ver Sevasrulo. sxva<br />
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da moviTxove, CemTvis yovelgvari<br />
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mosakrebeli gadaixados, _<br />
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TviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsiT<br />
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rom sakrebulos erT wevrs ar<br />
aqvs ufleba, dokumentacia gamoiTxovos<br />
da monitoringi martom<br />
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isinic imas akeTeben. adgilobrivi<br />
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TanamSromlobdes, msgavs gadawyvetilebas<br />
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Tu romelime sakrebulos wevri<br />
dokumentacias moiTxovs da<br />
fuls ver gadaixdis, is verc imuSavebs.<br />
anu sakrebulo, rogorc<br />
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wevrma ver gaakontrola adgi-<br />
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natanebi foTs miakuTvnes da deputatic erTi hyavT. am adamianma,<br />
erTaderTi, rac gaakeTa, natanelebs meoradi tansacmeli gamougzavna<br />
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rom xval msgavsi sqeltaniani<br />
dokumentacia aRar gamoviTxovo,<br />
raTa aRar mawvalon da sasamarTloebSi<br />
ar mataron. realurad<br />
Tu SevxedavT: ozurgeTis meriam<br />
dokumentaciis gadmocemis procesi<br />
gaaWianura, radgan ar undoda<br />
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is xelSi Camvardnoda. am binZur<br />
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man meris dakveTa Seasrula da<br />
amis gamo TvviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsi<br />
da masSi gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
sakrebulos wevris uflebamosileba<br />
saerTod uaryo. Tvalebi<br />
daxuWa am muxlze, rasac ar gaake-<br />
Tebda, masze zewola rom ar yofiliyo.<br />
_ mosamarTle biZina sturua<br />
politikuri dakveTebis miRebasa<br />
da SesrulebaSi sxva drosac<br />
aris SemCneuli?<br />
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vilis xelisufleba da murusi-<br />
Zis sasamarTlo sakrebuloebs<br />
ebrZvis? rom sakrebuloebi sak-<br />
uTar movaleobebs pirnaTlad<br />
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CoCeba undaT? ara mgonia, ase<br />
iyos...<br />
_ uamravi barierisa da winaa-<br />
Rmdegobis miuxedavad namdvilad<br />
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da uflebamosilebas. sakrebulos<br />
wevrebi gadawyvetilebebs<br />
meriebis sasargeblod Tu<br />
iReben, eg ar niSnavs, rom mec ase<br />
viqcevi. geTanxmebiT, rom sakrebulos<br />
umravlesobas namdvilad<br />
ar ainteresebs arc auditis daskvnebi<br />
da arc sxva ram, magram me<br />
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dokumentacias, ar minda, raime<br />
gamomeparos. Zalian bevrs davdivar<br />
mosaxleobasTan, romelmac<br />
xma momca. imitom viTxov amden<br />
dokuments, rom SigniT Cavixedo,<br />
wavikiTxo da Cems amomrCevelTan<br />
pirnaTeli viyo.<br />
_ ra unda eweros auditis<br />
daskvnaSi iseTi, rom misi moce-<br />
ma merias ar undodes? yuri<br />
mainc ar mogikravT, ra dawera<br />
auditma?<br />
_ es faqti erT SemTxvevas maxsenebs:<br />
dokumentebs viTxovdi<br />
imasTan dakavSirebiT, vis daexmarnen<br />
erTjeradi samedicino<br />
momsaxurebiT. aseT dros<br />
adgilobriv moqalaqeebs<br />
samedicino dawesebulebidan<br />
forma 100 moaqvT<br />
da maT 150-lariani daxmareba<br />
ekuTvniT. informacia<br />
mqonda, rom<br />
erT-erT ojaxSi, roca<br />
batoni meri mibrZanda<br />
da maTTan<br />
gaSlil sufra-<br />
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sTan SezarxoSda, Tqva, _ arCevnebis<br />
dros rom gvexmarebodiT da<br />
ver dagafinanseT, axla moiTxoveT<br />
150-lariani samedicino daxmareba<br />
da Tanxas gaitanTo. erT<br />
ojaxSi es daxmareba aiRes: colma,<br />
qmarma, dedamTilma da mamam-<br />
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msgavsi daxmareba sxvas marTla<br />
sWirdeboda da Tanxis amowurvis<br />
gamo uari uTxres. saxelobiTi<br />
siis gadmocema moviTxove, raTa<br />
gamerkvia, konkretulad, vis misces<br />
Tanxa da maSinac igive problemebisa<br />
da barierebis winaSe aRmovCndi.<br />
miTxres, rom es iyo adamianis<br />
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informacia da ver gadmomcemdnen.<br />
maSin pirad monacemTa dacvis<br />
inspeqtor qaldans mivmarTe da<br />
vkiTxe, hqondaT Tu ara ufleba,<br />
aseTi dokumentacia sakrebulos<br />
wevrisTvis ar gadaecaT? bolos,<br />
mainc komisiis saSualebiT gamovTxove<br />
da es dokumenti vnaxe,<br />
Tumca arasruli sia momces, radgan<br />
am adamianebis misamarTebsac<br />
viTxovdi da es informacia damimales.<br />
swored misamarTebiT iyo<br />
SesaZlebeli imis garkveva, erT<br />
ojaxSi ramden adamians misces<br />
fuli, magram ver SevZeli. radgan<br />
amjeradac xelovnurad miqmnian<br />
bariers da yvelafers akeTeben,<br />
rom informacia damalon,<br />
veWvob, es auditis daskvna skandalur<br />
informacias Seicavs. maT<br />
raRacis gasajaroeba ar undaT<br />
da ician, rom me Tu gavigeb, ar<br />
davmalav da xalxs gavagebineb.<br />
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Tis mers saxalxo damcvelTanac<br />
uCivleT da es saqme rogor das-<br />
rulda?<br />
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miviReT, sadac is gaafrTxiles,<br />
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Zleboda Cinovniki moqceuliyo<br />
ise, rogorc is iqceva. gaafrTxiles.<br />
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24 ianvars Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
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ase uxvad Camouriga talonebi,<br />
isini rogor xarjaven biujetis<br />
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iciT, ratom miCivla sioriZem<br />
am gancxadebis gamo?! es iyo Cemi<br />
pirveli dokumentacia, romelic<br />
gamoviTxove, gavasajarove da<br />
undoda SeveSinebine, sxva dros<br />
igive rom ar gamekeTebina. ar gamouvida<br />
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Sinebas, yvela informacia maqvs,<br />
rasac qalaqis meri Cem Sesaxeb ambobs,<br />
aseve vici, vis xvdeba Ramis<br />
2 saaTze stadionze da ra davalebebs<br />
aZlevs iq misul xalxs. ar<br />
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unda gaakeTos da simarTles<br />
mainc vityvi, ver gamaCumebs.<br />
_ vis da ra saxis davalebebs<br />
aZlevs RamiT stadionze meri?<br />
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avtoritetebs xvdeba da<br />
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viRac mTvrali adamiani miagzavnes.<br />
SemTxveviT mec iq viyavi,<br />
Torem apirebdnen, fizikurad<br />
gasworebodnen mas.<br />
sakrebulos sxdomidan saxl-<br />
Si vbrundebodiT, roca sofel<br />
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`saqarTveloSi ar yofila precedenti, roca sakrebulos wevrs<br />
mosakrebeli sasamarTloSic mosTxoves. sasamarTlos avuxseni, rom<br />
rigiTi moqalaqe ar viyavi da sakrebuloSi msgavsi dokumentaciis<br />
gareSe muSaobas ver SevZlebdi. mosamarTle biZina sturuam, Cemda<br />
gasakvirad, sarCeli ar damikmayofila. gadawyvetilebaSi Cawera, rom<br />
sakrebulos erTi wevri valdebulia, gamoTxovili dokumentebis<br />
mosakrebeli gadaixados, - Tu biuro an komisia merias mimarTavda,<br />
maSin SeeZlo, mosakreblis gareSe miecao. TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
kodeqsiT sakrebulos wevris uflebamosileba gansazRvrulia. iq ar<br />
weria, rom sakrebulos erT wevrs ar aqvs ufleba, dokumentacia<br />
gamoiTxovos da monitoringi martom Caataros, romelic mas<br />
evaleba. simarTle giTxraT, raionuli sasamarTlosgan arc<br />
velodebodi, rom sarCels damikmayofilebda, radgan adgilobrivi<br />
xelisufleba sakuTar xelebsa da yurebs ar moiWrida~<br />
„bmv”-s markis avtomanqaniT, xmovani<br />
sirenebiT gamogvekida, natanebTan<br />
gza gadagviWra, manqanidan<br />
gadmoxta da Cems meuRles<br />
Sars sdebda, sacemrad iwevda, _<br />
Sen ici, me vin varo? marTalia,<br />
manqanidan erTi adamiani gadmovida,<br />
magram uceb iq sxvebic gaCndnen.<br />
provokacias awyobdnen. saswrafod<br />
patrulSi davreke da<br />
cxadia, es dafiqsirebulic aris,<br />
magram sanam patruli movida, es<br />
kaci gaiqca. mere miTxres, rom<br />
sofel meriaSi daewivnen da uTxres,<br />
rom Cvens manqanas aRar gahkareboda.<br />
mere gavarkvieT, rom<br />
es adamiani biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
traqtoristi, vinme qilifTari<br />
iyo.<br />
_ radgan sityva miliarderze<br />
Camovarda, unda gkiTxoT: mis<br />
Sesaxeb saintereso postebs<br />
aqveynebT xolme feisbuqze da<br />
„xeglejiasac” eZaxiT. erT-erTi<br />
posti patara biWunas exeboda,<br />
romelic biZinas xes umalavs.<br />
Cvens mkiTxvelsac mouyeviT es<br />
ambavi...<br />
_ amas winaT Cemi axloblis<br />
bavSvs Zveli tansacmeli gamoetana<br />
da tanmorCil xes saTuTad<br />
fuTavda. vuTxari, _ SefuTe giorgi,<br />
SefuTe, qarma totebi ar daamtvrios-meTqi.<br />
moulodnelad,<br />
am patara biWma momigo, _ ex, na-<br />
Tia deida, Tovlis ki ar meSinia,<br />
ver xedav, ivaniSvilma ramxela xe<br />
moglija da saxlSi waiRo, am xis<br />
moglejas raRa undao? amiT mimaxvedra,<br />
rom qliavis xes, faqtobrivad,<br />
am tansacmelSi ivaniSvils<br />
umalavda.<br />
guriaSi axlaxan Zlieri qari<br />
iyo da ramdenime xe moTxara. gurulebis<br />
enakvimatobis ambavi xom<br />
cnobilia da ambobdnen, _ qarma<br />
ivaniSvils saqme gauadvila, axla<br />
Camoivlis, yvelas axikavs da saxlSi<br />
gadaarCevso. iumoriT saubroben<br />
am sakiTxze, magram realurad<br />
ar moswonT. gurulebs<br />
uamravi problema aqvT, romlisTvisac<br />
TiTi TiTze aravis daukarebia.<br />
natanebi foTs miakuTvnes<br />
da deputatic erTi hyavT. am adamianma,<br />
erTaderTi, rac gaakeTa,<br />
natanelebs meoradi tansacmeli<br />
gamougzavna saCuqrad. Zalian<br />
gabrazda xalxi, ambobda, ase dagvamcirao.<br />
iqve cxovrobs ivaniSvilic<br />
da man icis, ra awuxebs<br />
adgilobriv mosaxleobas, magram<br />
es ar aRelvebs. miliarderi marto<br />
imiT aris dakavebuli, sasurveli<br />
xe ipovos da saxlSi gaaqanos.<br />
amisTvis aTasebs xarjavs.<br />
_ ivaniSvilis damcvelebs ver<br />
gaugiaT, xeebis gadatana ratom<br />
aris problema, roca aqamde mas<br />
aravin uvlida da axla mzrun-<br />
veli patroni gamouCnda?<br />
_ problema is aris, rom xeebi,<br />
romlebsac is glejs, saxelmwifos<br />
ekuTvnis. Tundac axla, natanebis<br />
Zveli Cais fabrikis ezo-<br />
Si rom unda moglijos ramdenime<br />
xe da ukve SemosazRvruli<br />
aqvs, yvela saxelmwifosia. ra fulsac<br />
is axarjavs am xeebis glejas,<br />
adgilze rom mixedos da<br />
mouaros, albaT, ukeTesi iqneba.<br />
es kaci mxolod sakuTar keTildReobaze<br />
zrunavs. man moatyua<br />
qarTveli xalxi da unda, rom<br />
yvela sikeTe, rac Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
arsebobs, saxlSi waiRos, xalxisTvis<br />
ki araferi emeteba. am xis<br />
glejiT sxva rameebs afuWebs _<br />
rkinigzis sadenebi Caxsna, unikaluri<br />
mravalwlovani evkaliptis<br />
xeebi gadaWra, xe rom gaetarebina...<br />
natanebSi amboben, rom<br />
Tuki vinmes didi Wadari, muxa an<br />
kakali udgas, yvelasTan hyavs<br />
gagzavnili Suamavlebi, xom ar<br />
gayidiTo?<br />
_ rogor igebs ivaniSvili,<br />
sad ra xe dgas?<br />
_ adgilobrivebi amboben, rom<br />
upiloto vertmfrens uSvebs,<br />
saidanac garemos fotoebs uRebs<br />
da amiT igebs, sad ra dgaso.<br />
bolos, ozurgeTis upovarTa<br />
ufaso sasadiloSi Seqmnil mdgomareobaze<br />
unda mogiyveT: aseTi<br />
adamianebis sadilisTvis TveSi 8<br />
aTasi laria gamoyofili. beneficiarTa<br />
raodenoba, SarSandelTan<br />
SedarebiT, gazrdilia da am-<br />
Jamad 170-s udris. tenderi meriam<br />
gamoacxada da masSi monawileoba<br />
miiRo mxolod erTma kompaniam.<br />
erTi beneficiaris kveba am<br />
kompanias 1 lari da 70 TeTri<br />
ujdeba. kiTxvac ki ar daebada<br />
aravis, rom am fasad ra unda aWamon<br />
zrdasrul, TiTqmis, mSier<br />
adamianebs?! Zalian mainteresebs,<br />
vinc am Tanxis ulufa moifiqra<br />
da mere daafinansa, Tavad eyofa<br />
am fasis saWmeli dReSi? meniuSi<br />
uamravi kerZi uweriaT, aqvT xorcianic,<br />
kompoti, magram produqti<br />
gaZvirda da sainteresoa, rogor<br />
unda moamzadon es kerZebi ase<br />
iafad? faqtia, rom am yvelafer-<br />
Si sadRac aris ZaRlis Tavi damarxuli.<br />
Tu marTla aqvT is sakvebi,<br />
rac meniuSi uweriaT, e. i. porciebs<br />
amcireben da cotas aWmeven,<br />
am isedac, gaubedurebul<br />
adamianebs, sxvanairad, am TanxiT<br />
normaluri kvebis produqtebis<br />
momzadeba gamoricxulia.<br />
_ am kiTxvas ratom Tqven ar<br />
svamT?<br />
_ davsvi, magram mipasuxes, _ ra<br />
vqnaT, erTi pretendentis ganacxadi<br />
Semovida tenderSi da<br />
manac es fasi SemogvTavaza, Sei-<br />
Zleba, mas sakuTari meurneoba<br />
aqvs da sulac ar yidulobs kvebis<br />
produqtebso. „SeiZlebaze”<br />
ageben tenderebs da esec kiTxvis<br />
niSnebs badebs. ratom ar miiRes<br />
monawileoba sxva firmebma,<br />
esec gaugebaria?! mTavari is aris,<br />
rom merias ar unda daeSva, aseTi<br />
dabali fasebiT upovari adamianebis<br />
gamokveba da kvebis<br />
produqtebis Rirebuleba realobasTan<br />
axlos unda mieyvana, magram,<br />
albaT, amjeradac, meri sakuTar<br />
Tavze fiqrobs. upovrebs<br />
rom gadauxados kvebaSi fuli,<br />
danarCeni Tanxa sakuTar Tavze<br />
rogorRa moirgos?<br />
swored am meris „wyalobiT”<br />
qalaqis biujetidan saerTod amoiRes<br />
daxmareba meore jgufis<br />
invalidebisadmi da ganacxades,<br />
eseni janmrTelebi ariano. am<br />
dros yvelanairi socialuri qulis<br />
gareSe daxmarebis gacema Caamates.<br />
es imas niSnavs, rom nebismieri<br />
adamiani mova, moiTxovs da<br />
daxmarebas miiRebs. es pirdapir<br />
mianiSnebs, rom 2017 wlis TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebisTvis<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam” biujetSi<br />
muxli Cado da unda, rom agitatorebi<br />
am TanxiT moisyidos.<br />
`qronika+” Segnebulad ar<br />
daukavSirda ozurgeTis mers<br />
beglar sioriZes, radgan praqtikaSi<br />
damkvidrebuli misi pa-<br />
suxi cnobilia: is arasodes ake-<br />
Tebs komentars naTia SaraSeniZ-<br />
is braldebebze.<br />
33
iSviaTia qalaqi, sadac ramdenime mdinare Camoedinebodes.<br />
quTaisi im qalaqTa Sorisaa, romelsac es privilegia xvda<br />
wilad, magram misi saTanadod gamoyeneba vera da ver xerxde-<br />
ba. metic, mdinareebis gaswvriv arsebuli teritoriebi mkvdar<br />
zonebad iqca da antisanitariis kerebs warmoadgens.<br />
wesiT, mdinareebis sanapiro rekreaciuli<br />
zonebis nawils unda<br />
Seadgendes da igi mosaxleobis TavSeyris<br />
adgilebad gamoiyenebodes.<br />
quTaisSi, iseve rogorc saqarTvelos<br />
sxva qalaqebSi, piriqiTaa. qalaqis<br />
sxvadasxva ubanSi daklaknili<br />
kalapotebi Tavisi wylis masiT<br />
ignorirebulia da mxolod nagavsayrelis<br />
funqcias atarebs.<br />
mdinare oRasyura saTafliis<br />
mRvimidan iwyeba, romelic quTaisis<br />
dasavleT nawils orad hyofs.<br />
igi, ZiriTadad, mWidrod dasaxlebuli<br />
ubnebis teritoriaze miedineba.<br />
marTalia, erTi SexedviT, mSvidisa<br />
da mcirewylianis STabeWdilebas<br />
tovebs, magram aris SemTxvevebi,<br />
roca swrafi wyalmovardnebiT<br />
xasiaTdeba da Sedegebic Sesabamisi<br />
mohyveba. bolo wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi mdinare ramdenjerme<br />
gadmovida kalapotidan da rogorc<br />
sacxovrebeli, ise savaWro<br />
obieqtebi datbora. imis gamo, rom<br />
garSemo arsebuli mSeneblobebis<br />
mizeziT kalapoti, droTa ganmavlobaSi,<br />
daviwrovda, didi odenobis<br />
wyals ver atarebs. problemebi,<br />
romelsac oRasyura qmnis, sxva<br />
yvelaferTan erTad, mosaxleobis<br />
didi „damsaxurebiTac” warmoiSoba.<br />
kalapoti samSeneblo da sayofacxovrebo<br />
narCenebis ganTavsebis<br />
poligonadaa gadaqceuli. mdinareSi<br />
fekaluri masebic blomad Caedineba,<br />
rac masSi cocxal organizmebs<br />
anadgurebs. specialistebi<br />
oRasyuras mkvdar mdinaredac<br />
moixsenieben.<br />
mdgomareoba, aseve, sagangaSoa<br />
mdinare rionis irgvlivac, radgan<br />
igi mosaxleobam da savaWro<br />
obieqtebma nagavsayrelad gadaaqcies.<br />
quTaiselTa didi nawilis<br />
ukmayofilbas, gansakuTrebiT,<br />
qalaqis centrSi, rusTavelisa<br />
da jaWvis xidebs Soris, arsebuli<br />
monakveTi iwvevs _ adgili,<br />
romelic ara marto adgilobrivebis,<br />
aramed, ucxoeli turistebis<br />
gadaadgilebis marSrut-<br />
Si Sedis. miuxedavad pretenziebisa,<br />
qalaqis<br />
TviTmmarTvelobidan,<br />
jerjerobiT, araferi<br />
keTdeba im<br />
adamianTa gamosavlenad,<br />
rom-<br />
34<br />
xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />
nato qaTamaZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
lebic centralur nawilSi lokaluri<br />
nagavsayrelebis warmoqmnis<br />
avtorebad gvevlinebian.<br />
2012 wlis arCevnebis dros oRasyuris<br />
sakiTxs „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
maJoritarobis kandidatis, „respublikuri<br />
partiis” yofili wevris,<br />
nato qaTamaZis winasaarCevno<br />
programaSi erT-erTi mTavari adgili<br />
ekava. mmarTveli gundi maSin<br />
mosaxleobas mdinaris kalapotis<br />
daRrmaveba-gawmendasa da problemis<br />
sabolood mogvarebas hpirdeboda,<br />
magram, sxva bevr ramesTan<br />
erTad, es dapirebac dRemde Seusrulebelia.<br />
winasaarCevno dapirebis<br />
daviwyebis gamo xelisuflebas<br />
yofili Tanagundeli nato qaTamaZec<br />
akritikebs da mTel pasuxismgeblobas<br />
qalaqis mers akisrebs<br />
nato qaTamaZe _ quTaisis<br />
sakrebulos wevri:<br />
_ oRasyuris kalapotis gawmendiTi<br />
samuSaoebis ganxorcieleba<br />
2014 wlis arCevnebis dros CemTan<br />
erTad qalaqis meris mier gacemuli<br />
dapirebacaa, Tumca mers, ratomRac,<br />
daaviwyda. sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />
es sakiTxi me davayene da, winaaRmdegobis<br />
miuxedavad, mainc gavida.<br />
Sevarcxvine Cemi kolegebi da<br />
vTqvi, rom TiToeuli maTganis saxelsa<br />
da gvars xmamaRla vityodi,<br />
Tuki problemis mogvarebas mxars<br />
ar dauWerdnen. mxardaWera miviRe<br />
da igi mowonebul sakiTxTa nusxa-<br />
Si Sevida, Tumca 2015 wlis biujetSi<br />
ver aisaxa. roca movikiTxe,<br />
nato qaTamaZe:<br />
SoTa murRulia<br />
`quTaiss hyavs<br />
mavnebeli meri,<br />
romelsac<br />
sakuTari Tavis<br />
garda aravin da<br />
araferi uyvars!~<br />
qalaqis merma miTxra, rom ufro<br />
mniSvnelovani da prioritetuli<br />
sxva rame iyo. amis Semdeg avdeqi da<br />
adglobrivi mosaxleobis 3 aTasamde<br />
xelmowera Sevagrove. mdinare<br />
oRasyuris sanapirosTan ganTavsebuli<br />
me-13, me-15, me-17 sabavSvo<br />
baRebis xelmZRvanelebic SemogvierTdnen,<br />
radgan wyalmovardnebis<br />
dros isini seriozuli problemebis<br />
winaSe arian. albaT, esec iyo<br />
erT-erTi mizezi am ukanasknel-<br />
Ta samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebisa.<br />
is, rom adidebuli<br />
mdinare zianis momtani<br />
xdeba, xelmowerebiT<br />
daafiqsires 35-e,<br />
23-e skolebisa da sxva<br />
saswavlo dawesebulebebis<br />
warmomadgenlebmac.<br />
SemogvierTdnen sazkvebis<br />
obieqtebis mepatroneebic.<br />
paralelurad gavakeTe<br />
saeqsperto daskvna da gadavagzavne<br />
infrastruqturisa da<br />
regionuli ganviTarebis saministroSi.<br />
_ ra ewera saeqsperto daskv-<br />
naSi?<br />
_ saeqsperto daskvnaSi aRniSnuli<br />
iyo, rom aucileblobas warmoadgenda<br />
samuSaoebis warmoeba,<br />
radgan SesaZlebeli iyo, mdinares<br />
gamoewvia savalalo Sedegebi. magaliTad,<br />
moyvanili iyo is, rom<br />
igi, periodulad, jebirebidan<br />
gadmodis da qalaqs tboravs. samwuxaro<br />
faqtic moxda, roca adidebulma<br />
oRasyuram, ramdenime wlis<br />
win, erTi bavSvis sicocxlec ki<br />
Seiwira. erTi SexedviT, patara,<br />
uwyinari mdinarea, magram Tuki adiddeba,<br />
mas seriozuli problemebis<br />
Seqmna SeuZlia.<br />
infrastruqturis saministro-<br />
Si Tavadac Cavedi. vibrZole am<br />
sityvis sruli mniSvnelobiT. 2015<br />
wlis seqtemberSi napirsamagri samuSaoebis<br />
specialistebi Camovidnen,<br />
romlebmac CemTan erTad da,<br />
sxvaTa Soris, qalaqis vice-mer miqiaSvilis<br />
TanxlebiT, mdinaris<br />
kalapotis garSemo arsebuli teritoriebi<br />
daiares. amis Semdeg<br />
maTac TavianTi daskvna dades da<br />
saministros warudgines.<br />
_ miuxedavad am daskvnebisa,<br />
aRniSnuli sakiTxi verc 2016 wlis<br />
biujetSi aisaxa. ratom?<br />
_ diax, asea. 2016 wlis biujet-<br />
Si kvlav rom ar aisaxa, saministro-<br />
Si isev Cavedi. xan vexvewebodi, xan<br />
veCxubebodi yvelas, raTa sakiTxi<br />
daZruliyo. Sempirdnen, rom stiqiebis<br />
nawilSi gadaviyvanTo da finansTa<br />
saministros gadaegzavna,<br />
romelsac ukve mTavrobaze unda<br />
gaetana, raTa Tanxa Camoricxuliyo.<br />
moxda ise, rom finansTa saministroSic<br />
momiwia misvla. ministris<br />
moadgile giorgi kakauriZes<br />
Sevxvdi, romelmac miTxra, rom<br />
qalaqis mers esaubra, romelmac,<br />
Turme, ganucxada, rom am mdinaris<br />
kalapotis gakeTeba ar aris ase<br />
aucilebeli, radgan sxva rameebi<br />
ufro mniSvnelovani da prioritetuliao.<br />
me mas vkiTxe, _ SoTa mur-<br />
Ruliasi ufro sjera, Tu im 3 aTasi<br />
kacis, romelTa xelmowerebic<br />
Camovitane-meTqi? Cven arcTu sasiamovnod<br />
davSordiT erTmaneTs.<br />
amis Semdeg momiwia infrastruqturis<br />
saministroSi misvla, sadac<br />
miTxres, rom finansTa saministrodan<br />
dagvirekes da samuSaoebi<br />
`wesiT, mdinareebis sanapiro rekreaciuli<br />
zonebis nawils unda Seadgendes da igi<br />
mosaxleobis TavSeyris adgilebad<br />
gamoiyenebodes. quTaisSi, iseve rogorc<br />
saqarTvelos sxva qalaqebSi, piriqiTaa. qalaqis<br />
sxvadasxva ubanSi daklaknili kalapotebi<br />
Tavisi wylis masiT ignorirebulia da<br />
mxolod nagavsayrelis funqcias atarebs.<br />
mdinare oRasyura saTafliis mRvimidan iwyeba,<br />
romelic quTaisis dasavleT nawils orad<br />
hyofs. igi, ZiriTadad, mWidrod dasaxlebuli<br />
ubnebis teritoriaze miedineba. marTalia,<br />
erTi SexedviT, mSvidisa da mcirewylianis<br />
STabeWdilebas tovebs, magram aris SemTxvevebi,<br />
roca swrafi wyalmovardnebiT xasiaTdeba da<br />
Sedegebic Sesabamisi mohyveba. bolo wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi mdinare ramdenjerme gadmovida<br />
kalapotidan da rogorc sacxovrebeli, ise<br />
savaWro obieqtebi datbora. imis gamo, rom<br />
garSemo arsebuli mSeneblobebis mizeziT<br />
kalapoti, droTa ganmavlobaSi, daviwrovda,<br />
didi odenobis wyals ver atarebs.<br />
problemebi, romelsac oRasyura qmnis, sxva<br />
yvelaferTan erTad, mosaxleobis didi<br />
`damsaxurebiTac~ warmoiSoba. kalapoti<br />
samSeneblo da sayofacxovrebo narCenebis<br />
ganTavsebis poligonadaa gadaqceuli.<br />
mdinareSi fekaluri masebic blomad<br />
Caedineba, rac masSi cocxal organizmebs<br />
anadgurebs. specialistebi oRasyuras mkvdar<br />
mdinaredac moixsenieben~<br />
34 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.
dafinansdebao. quTaisSi Camovedi<br />
da xalxs sakiTxis gadawyveta mivuloce,<br />
magram murRuliam yvelaferi<br />
gaakeTa, raTa es Tema dablokiliyo.<br />
sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />
mas brali wavuyene, sadac miTxra:<br />
„qalbatono nato, Tqven ar iyaviT<br />
is adamiani, romelic Tavs iwonebdiT<br />
da xalxs eubnebodiT, ukve dafinansebuliao?<br />
aaa, moatyueT xalxi?”<br />
diax, murRulias undoda, saqme<br />
ise warmoeCina, TiTqos, nato<br />
qaTamaZem amomrCeveli moatyua.<br />
dResac vambob, _ sicocxlis fasad<br />
rom damijdes, am sakiTxs bolomde<br />
mivyvebi. aqve minda vTqva,<br />
rom dauSvebelia is, rasac SoTa<br />
murRulia akeTebs. quTaiss hyavs<br />
mavnebeli meri, romelsac saku-<br />
Tari Tavis garda aravin da araferi<br />
uyvars.<br />
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bosxi, holandieli mxatvari,<br />
aseve mazaCo, breigeli, ar<br />
vici, Zalian bevrni arian! magram<br />
bosxi yvelaze metad momwons, radgan<br />
alegoriebiT xatavs. ferweraSi<br />
rom maqvs namuSevrebi: „Tavisuflebis<br />
fasi”, „gamoTxoveba<br />
diqtatorTan” „ZaRlebi sala-<br />
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veckis kunZulze”, „Tagvebi katas<br />
marxaven” _ es alegoriebia. roca<br />
stalini gardaicvala, maSin wavikiTxe:<br />
diqtatura damTavrda, adamianebs<br />
Tavisufleba undaTo da<br />
marTalicaa, amitom davarqvi es<br />
saxelebi da Sevqmeni isini. minda,<br />
es yvelaferi veZebo da gamovce.<br />
_ ra aris sistemaSi Sesacvleli?<br />
ra problemas xedavT xe-<br />
lovnebaSi?<br />
_ me Cemi xedva da xelwera<br />
maqvs, xSirad zogs usayveduria,<br />
ratom akeTeb, ratom xatav ase da<br />
ara sxvagvarado da me vpasuxob:<br />
waikiTxeT lado gudiaSvilis<br />
mogonebebi, sadac weria, rom 1950<br />
wels akademiidan gamoagdes, umuSevari<br />
davrCi da saWmlis fulic<br />
ki ar gvqonda me da Cems cols, ra<br />
unda gveqnao? da mizezi, ratomac<br />
gamomiSves, is iyo, rom me klaknili<br />
xazebiT vxatavdi. akademiidan<br />
ori kaci gamomigzavnes da miTxres:<br />
nu xatav, lado, ase klaknili<br />
xazebiT, gaaswore, _ ra vqna, es<br />
Cemgan gamodis ase da ar SemiZlia<br />
sxvanairad daxatva, _ vupasuxeo.<br />
mainc, _ ara, gadaaswore, realisturad<br />
gaakeTeo, _ miTxres, Tumca<br />
cudi mowafe gamovedi, mainc<br />
imas vakeTebdi, rogorsac vgrZnobdi<br />
da vfiqrobdi, aseTi rame<br />
gamodis Cemgano. maincdamainc<br />
anatomiuri agebuleba unda<br />
hqondes naxats? _ namdvilad ara.<br />
_ ras ganicdiT yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ minda, rom Cemi dasaxuli gegmebi<br />
bolomde ganvaxorcielo da<br />
kargi megobari myavdes gverdiT _<br />
amas ganvicdi.<br />
roca vmuSaob, yoveldRe axal<br />
raRacas aRmovaCen, vcvli xolme<br />
zogierTs. „daviT aRmaSeneblis”<br />
ilustracias Tu movaswreb, kargia.<br />
_ adamiani, visac SexvedrixarT<br />
da ggoniaT, rom diadi adami-<br />
ani iyo.<br />
_ Sevxvedrivar lado gudiaSvils,<br />
daviT kakabaZes, firosmans<br />
ara (icinis), konstantine gamsaxurdias,<br />
magram misi naxvisas is<br />
gancda Zalian wamieri iyo, fanqarSi<br />
mqonda jer agebuli naxati<br />
da uceb ori kaci damadga Tavs<br />
uknidan da ra vicodi me, vin iyo<br />
is, maSin miTxra konstantinem:<br />
_ ymawvilo, Tqvens naxats<br />
didebuleba akliao, _ Zalian kargad<br />
maxsovs. _ ra unda upasuxo<br />
axla amas-meTqi... gverdiT taZris<br />
erT-erTi mRvdeli mejda, saba<br />
erqva, _ iciT, es vin iyoo? mkiTxra<br />
man, _ ara meTqi, _ ai, amis avtorio<br />
da sveticxovlisken gaiSvira<br />
xeli. _ amis avtori aRaraa cocxali-meTqi,<br />
_ vuTari, _ ara, wigni<br />
rom dawera, ego, _ miTxra. isini<br />
kidev wavidnen, Semouares sveticxovels<br />
da karibWeSi gavidnen, _<br />
uime-meTqi, _ vifiqre. CamoviRe es<br />
dafa, romelzedac vxatavdi da<br />
gaviqeci. isini ukve gadasulebi<br />
iyvnen, manqanasTan idga orive.<br />
konstantines orbiviT Tvalebi<br />
hqonda, Sevxede da ar damaviwydeba,<br />
meore simon Ciqovani yofila,<br />
davkmayofildi naxviT, Torem ise<br />
Zalian moridebuli, morcxvi da<br />
mokrZalebuli viyavi da gamarjoba,<br />
Seni, batono konstantine-meTqi,<br />
_ ver vetyodi.<br />
mas Semdeg, studenti rom<br />
viyavi aq, maSin vxvdebodi xolme<br />
quCaSi mas da galaktions erTad,<br />
laRiZis wylebTan.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebT yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ uxeSoba.<br />
_ ra giyvarT?<br />
_ silamaze.<br />
_ raze gwydebaT guli?<br />
_ imaze, rom ar vafasebT diad<br />
adamianebs, rusTavelis iubilec<br />
ki ar aRvniSneT, roca is aseTi<br />
mniSvnelovania Cveni erisTvis.<br />
wignic mivuZRveni mis 850 wlisTavs,<br />
magram bevrma ar daafasa<br />
da es guls mtkens.<br />
_ risi keTeba gsiamovnebT?<br />
_ Cemi saqmis, xatvis, Zerwvis.<br />
_ ra gabednierebT?<br />
_ araferi, mxolod Cemi saqme,<br />
ai, es, rasac vakeTeb.<br />
_ ras gegmavT?<br />
_ „daviT aRmaSeneblis” dasuraTebas.<br />
_ „didostatis marjvenis”<br />
ilustrirebis dasasruleblad<br />
ramdeni dagrCaT?<br />
_ yvelaferi gakeTebuli maqvs,<br />
magram zogierTs vcvli. teqsti<br />
dawerili maqvs, imasac vasworeb,<br />
radgan konstantines iseTi detalebi<br />
aqvs nawarmoebSi, rac mTlad<br />
egre araa istoriulad da<br />
realurad da rogor Sevbedo baton<br />
konstantines misi Secvla, ar<br />
vici. minda, vinme istorikosi moviwvio<br />
da es konkretuli Temebi<br />
gavarCioT.<br />
_ Tqveni azriT, adamianebs mi-<br />
sia aqvT?<br />
_ yvelas aqvs Taviseburi misia.<br />
_ Tqven ra misia gaqvT?<br />
_ is, rom raRac lamazi da saintereso,<br />
axali Sevqmna, aseve xalxs<br />
adamianis da bunebis silamaze davanaxvo,<br />
es aris Cemi misia, meti<br />
araferi.<br />
am dros mis erT-erT namuSevars,<br />
„xurmas” vuyurebdiT, de-<br />
kemberi iyo:<br />
_ Cemi saxlidn dilas rom viyurebodi,<br />
xes foTlebi gascvivda<br />
da mxolod xurmis nayofi iyo<br />
Camokidebuli, mere mze rom gamovida,<br />
es suraTi, rasac yoveldRe<br />
vuyurebdi, raRac brwyinvalebad<br />
iqca. ai, es silamaze mxiblavda<br />
da ase var dResac.<br />
_ vin aris farsadan minaS-<br />
vili?<br />
_ rTuli kiTxvaa. saqarTvelos<br />
erTi moqalaqe var, meti ra unda<br />
vTqva.<br />
_ ras elodebiT?<br />
_ Cveni qveynis gabrwyinebas.<br />
_ risi imedi gaqvT?<br />
_ kargi adamianiebis.<br />
_ ra iqneba Tqveni saTqmeli<br />
adamianebisTvis?<br />
_ giyardeT samSoblo.<br />
misi saxli patara galereas<br />
hgavs, sadac ulamazes samyaroSi<br />
aRmoCndebiT, romelic feradi<br />
tiloebiTa da SesaniSnavi arqiteqturuli<br />
namuSevrebiTaa gamdidrebuli.<br />
wamosvlis win umorCilesad<br />
mTxova, rom misi qeba an raime<br />
„didebuli” ar damewera masze,<br />
fotos gadaRebaze Zlivs davi-<br />
Tanxme. miTxra, ar uyvars, roca<br />
fotos uReben, misi naxatebic hyofnis.<br />
ar vici, rodis sZinavs, is xom<br />
sul Sromobs, rogorc Tavad ambobs.<br />
unda, rom moaswros is, rac<br />
Caifiqra. axla 72 wlisaa da bednier<br />
saqarTveloSi cxovrebaze ocnebobs.<br />
ar vici, ramdenad auxdeba<br />
ocneba, magram vici, Cven gagvimarTla,<br />
rom misnairi xelovnebi<br />
gvyavs.<br />
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moWidaveTa<br />
saSinao da<br />
sagareo<br />
gasul kviras qarTvelma moWidaveebma<br />
araerT turnirSi mosinjes<br />
Zalebi, rogorc Tavisufal,<br />
aseve berZnul-romaul stilSi. daviwyoT<br />
saqarTvelos 23-wlamdel-<br />
Ta CempionatiT Tavisufal WidaobaSi,<br />
romelsac ambrolaurma umaspinZla.<br />
monawileTagan yvelaze<br />
titulovani moWidave olimpiuri<br />
priziori, mZimewonosani geno petriaSvili<br />
iyo. molodinisamebr, man<br />
yvela konkurents ajoba da saqarTvelos<br />
Cempioni gaxda.<br />
mis garda oqros medlebs daeuflnen:<br />
ramaz TurmaniZe (aWara),<br />
SoTa fartenaZe (aWara), iveri julayiZe<br />
(samtredia), mirza sxuluxia<br />
(quTaisi), avTandil kenWaZe (ambrolauri),<br />
irakli mwiTuri (Tbilisi),<br />
givi maWaraSvili (mcxeTa).<br />
iranis qalaq meSxedSi qarTveli<br />
warmatebebi<br />
xinCegaSvilma indoeTSic gaibrwyina<br />
`klasikosebi~ gaemgzavrnen, sadac<br />
saerTaSoriso gundur turnir<br />
`taxtis Tasze~ iasparezes. jgufur<br />
etapze qarTvelebma erTerTi<br />
iranuli klubi 5:3 daamarcxes,<br />
mere ki erayis nakrebi 7:1 gaanadgures<br />
da naxevarfinalSi gavidnen.<br />
Cvenma gundma TurqeTis nakrebs<br />
6:2 sZlia da finalSi gavida.<br />
iq uZlieresi maspinZelTa nakrebi<br />
aRmoCnda, romelmac Sansi ar<br />
dagvitova – 1:7.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebs iranSi<br />
oTar tatiSvili da zaza jiblaZe<br />
xelmZRvanelobdnen, gundis Semadgenloba<br />
ki aseTi iyo: ramaz surmaniZe<br />
(59 kg), Tornike jangavaZe (66<br />
kg), anton mamageiSvili (71 kg), ilia<br />
gulbaTaSvili, goga afriamaSvili<br />
(orive 75 kg), Tornike ZamaSvili (80<br />
kg), giorgi cirekiZe (85 kg), maTe<br />
sofaZe, levan yurfaraSvili (orive<br />
98 kg), levan arabuli, vasil<br />
imerliSvili (orive 130 kg).<br />
moskovidan oqros medliT dagvibrunda<br />
`klasikosi~ zurab da-<br />
TunaSvili (80 kg). ivan padubnis memorialze<br />
man yvela brZola moigo.<br />
man rusi metoqeebi daamarcxa,<br />
finalSi adlan akievs ajoba. 85<br />
kilogramSi vercxlis medali moipova<br />
robert kobliaSvilma, romelic<br />
gadamwyvet brZolaSi ruseTis<br />
saxeliT moaspareze daviT CakvetaZesTan<br />
1:3 damarcxda.<br />
yvelaze titulovani qarTveli<br />
moqmedi moWidave, Tavisufal stilSi<br />
olimpiuri da msoflios Cempioni<br />
vladimer xinCegaSvili ki<br />
indoeTSi imyofeboda, sadac meore<br />
profesiuli saklubo Cempionati<br />
dasrulda. Sous elementebiT gaformebuli<br />
es Sejibreba indoelebma<br />
SarSan daafuZnes, bevri<br />
sponsori miizides da turnirze<br />
msoflios TiTqmis yvela saxelovan<br />
moWidaves uxmes.<br />
xinCegaSvili klubma `panjab<br />
roialsma~ miiwvia, romelic gaxda<br />
kidec Cempioni. lado gundis<br />
kapitnadac daniSnes da man es<br />
ndoba Tavisi Sedegiani WidaobiT<br />
gaamarTla. finali misma gundma<br />
5:4 moigo, mTlianobaSi ki xinCegaSvilma<br />
indoeTis ligaSi Svidi<br />
brZola Caatara da aqedan eqvsSi<br />
gaimarjva. erTaderTi marcxi man<br />
indoel sandeep tomarsTan jgufur<br />
etapze ganicada, risTvisac<br />
finalSi revanSi aiRo da mas 3:0<br />
sZlia.<br />
xinCegaSvili sxva aspeqtiTac<br />
gamoirCa – igi indoeTis ligis<br />
yvelaze maRalanazRaurebadi falavani<br />
aRmoCnda. raRa Tqma unda,<br />
Cvenc swored igi migvaCnia mxolod<br />
induri ki ara, msoflio masStabis<br />
uZvirfases moWidaved.<br />
saqarTvelos saragbo erovnuli<br />
nakrebis sami mwvrTneli da Cveni<br />
ragbis akademiis xelmZRvaneli<br />
samuSao vizitiT axal zelandiaSi<br />
gaemgzavrnen.<br />
orkviriani viziti saqarTvelos<br />
ragbis kavSiris iniciativiTa da<br />
borjRalosnebis axalzelandieli<br />
mTavari mwvrTnelis, milton heigis<br />
kontaqtebis saSualebiT momzqarTvelTa<br />
zelandiuri gamocdileba<br />
basilaSvili<br />
avstralias<br />
daemSvidoba<br />
38<br />
adda. axal zelandiaSi borjRalosanTa<br />
samwvrTnelo Stabidan heigTan<br />
erTad misi asistenti levan<br />
maisaSvili da Serkinebis mwvrTneli<br />
bred harisi wavidnen. maTTan<br />
erTad gaemgzavra saqarTvelos<br />
ragbis kavSiris akademiis xelmZRvaneli<br />
zaza leJava, romelic samwvrTnelo<br />
saqmianobis garda, zelandiuri<br />
akademiebis muSaobis<br />
sistemasa da principebs ecnoba.<br />
Cveni delegacia oqlendSi,<br />
klub `bluzis~ bazaze icxovrebs,<br />
romlis mTavari mwvrTneli heigis<br />
megobari, legendaruli veterani<br />
tana umangaa. igi 2012 wlis noemberSi<br />
saqarTveloSi imyofeboda<br />
da am periodSi heigs mrCevlobas<br />
uwevda.<br />
gawerili programis Tanaxmad,<br />
qarTveli mwvrTnelebi gundis yvela<br />
varjiSs daeswrnen da zelandiel<br />
specialistebTan erTad gaiares<br />
varjiSis dagegmarebis procesi.<br />
garda amisa, maT individualuri<br />
Sexvedrebi gamarTes rogorc<br />
mTavar, aseve konkretuli<br />
mimarTulebebis mwvrTnelebTan.<br />
23-dan 26 ianvramde ki qarTuli<br />
delegacia velingTonSi iqneba, sadac<br />
ze-ragbis moqmedi Cempionis,<br />
`hariqeinzis~ mzadebis principebs<br />
gaecnoba. programa aqac iseTivea,<br />
rogoric `bluzis~ SemTxvevaSi _<br />
sruli CarTuloba savarjiSo procesSi<br />
da individualuri Sexvedrebi<br />
samwvrTnelo Stabis wevrebTan.<br />
garda amisa, zaza leJava gegmavs,<br />
rom am gundebis skolebisa da akademiebis<br />
muSaobis principebs gaecnos.<br />
`miviReT SesaniSnavi SesaZlebloba,<br />
rom sakuTari TvaliT vixiloT<br />
da CarTuli viyoT `bluzis~<br />
mzadebaSi. TavSi uamravi azri mitrialebs.<br />
maTi meSveobiT saqarTvelos<br />
nakrebi gaZlierdeba. am vizitis<br />
Sedegad davrwmundi, rom<br />
samwvrTnelo filosofiis kuTxiT<br />
swor gzaze vdgavarT da es Zalian<br />
kargia. udidesi siamovneba miviRe<br />
tanasa da misi amalis muSaobis xilviT.<br />
saqarTveloSi ragbi geometriuli<br />
progresiiT izrdeba. pirvelad<br />
rom Cavedi, sul sami saragbo<br />
moedani iyo. axla maTma raodenobam<br />
ocs miaRwia. ukve msoflio<br />
donis Sesaferisi bazebi gvaqvs.<br />
izrdeba niWier moTamaSeTa Taoba.<br />
vimedovneb, rom zrdis tempi momavalSic<br />
SenarCundeba“, _ ambobs<br />
milton heigi.<br />
saqarTvelos nomer pirveli<br />
CogburTeli, nikoloz basilaSvili,<br />
avstraliis Ria pirvel-<br />
obis ZiriTadi badis pirvel<br />
wreSi msoflio reitingis 33-e<br />
nomerTan, germanel filip<br />
kolSraiberTan 4:6, 6:3, 6:7, 4:6<br />
damarcxda.<br />
pirveli wagebuli setis Semdeg<br />
nikam meore seti aRmavlobiT<br />
Caatara da angariSi gaa-<br />
Tanabra. matCSi gardamtexi me-<br />
same seti aRmoCnda, sadac ori<br />
breikiT 4:0 dawinaurda, Tumca,<br />
samwuxarod, amxela upiratesoba<br />
ver SeinarCuna da saqme tai-<br />
breikamde miiyvana, romelic<br />
germanelma 7:2 moigo. meoTxe<br />
setSi kolSraiberma erTi breiki<br />
Seasrula da Sexvedra gama-<br />
rjvebamde mSvidad miiyvana.<br />
matCi 2 saaTsa da 34 wuTs gagr-<br />
Zelda. nikoloz basilaSvili<br />
badesTan<br />
aradamajereblad<br />
TamaSobda _ 11-jer gavida da<br />
mxolod samjer moipova qula.<br />
basilaSvilma avstraliis<br />
Ria pirvelobis ZiriTad bade-<br />
Si SesvliT 50 000 amerikuli<br />
dolari gamoimuSava.<br />
gverdi moamzada<br />
levan janezaSvilma<br />
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dubaiSi eqsperimentuli nakrebiT<br />
guSin saRamos saqarTvelos<br />
erovnulma safexburTo nakrebma<br />
wlis pirveli matCi Caatara. slovaki<br />
vladimir vaisis mier gawvrTnili<br />
gundi amxanagurad uzbekeTs<br />
daupirispirda. am matCis Sesaxeb<br />
Cveni gazeTis momdevno nomerSi<br />
giambobT, aseve mimovixilavT 25<br />
ianvars iordaniasTan gasamarT<br />
Sexvedrasac.<br />
sadebiuto matCamde Cvenma erovnulma<br />
gundma bolo varjiSi dubais<br />
safexburTo klub `al nasris~<br />
sawvrTnel centrSi gamarTa. varjiSi<br />
erT saaTs gagrZelda, dubaiSi<br />
myofi TiToeuli qarTveli fexburTeli<br />
janmrTeladaa da sakuTar<br />
Sanss elis.<br />
SegaxsenebT, vaisma eqsperimentul<br />
Semadgenlobas mouyara Tavi<br />
da dubaiSi bevri qarTveli fexburTelis<br />
sanakrebo debiuti<br />
Sedgeba.<br />
`Zalian bednieri var, rom Sansi<br />
momeca da nakrebSi gamomiZaxes. fexburTelebis<br />
umravlesoba pirvelad<br />
vTamaSobT nakrebSi da gaormagebuli<br />
ZalebiT gvinda, warmateba<br />
movutanoT saqarTvelos~, _ ambobs<br />
saba lobJaniZe.<br />
`Zalian kargi Sekrebaa, yovel<br />
saRamos gavdivarT Teorias, taqtikuri<br />
varjiSebia. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom ZiriTadi birTvi saqarTvelos<br />
Cempionatidan aris gamoZaxebuli,<br />
kargi TamaSi iqneba da SeTamaSebuli<br />
gundi viqnebiT~, _ acxadebs<br />
daviT xoWolava.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebi dubaiSi<br />
aseTi SemadgenlobiTaa Sekrebili:<br />
mekareebi: roin kvasxvaZe („torpedo“,<br />
quTaisi), omar migineiSvili<br />
(„samtredia“), oTar goSaZe („sabur-<br />
Talo“, Tbilisi);<br />
mcvelebi: Tornike grigalaSvili<br />
(„Cixura“, saCxere) daviT xo-<br />
Wolava („Cernomoreci“, odesa, ukraina),<br />
giorgi rexviaSvili („lokomotivi“,<br />
Tbilisi), laSa SergelaSvili<br />
(„rigasi“, latvia), uCa lob-<br />
JaniZe („atirau“, yazaxeTi), giorgi<br />
qimaZe („torpedo“, quTaisi), jimi<br />
tabiZe („genti“, belgia);<br />
naxevarmcvelebi: Teimuraz Sonia<br />
(„dinamo“, baTumi), giorgi ganugrava<br />
(„Cixura“, saCxere), oleg mamasaxlisi<br />
(„torpedo“, quTaisi),<br />
oTar kiteiSvili („dinamo Tbilisi~),<br />
baCana arabuli („dinamo Tbilisi~),<br />
giorgi xaraiSvili („sabur-<br />
Talo“, Tbilisi), beqa tuRuSi<br />
(„torpedo“, quTaisi), saba lobJaniZe<br />
(„dinamo Tbilisi~), giorgi papunaSvili<br />
(„dinamo Tbilisi~) laSa<br />
parunaSvili („dinamo Tbilisi~);<br />
Tavdamsxmelebi: vladimer dvaliSvili<br />
(„atirau“, yazaxeTi), budu<br />
zivzivaZe („samtredia“).<br />
uzbekeTTan vaisma Semdegi sastarto<br />
Semadgenloba daayena: kvasxvaZe,<br />
Sonia, arabuli, xoWolava,<br />
kiteiSvili, s. lobJaniZe, u. lob-<br />
JaniZe, rexviaSvili, SergelaSvili,<br />
tuRuSi, zivzivaZe. moedanze gundi<br />
kapitnis samklavuriT uCa lob-<br />
JaniZem gaiyvana.<br />
rac Seexeba metoqeebs, fifas<br />
sanakrebo reitingSi uzbekeTs 61-<br />
e, iordanias ki 107-e adgili ukavia.<br />
am gundebTan aqamde arasdros<br />
gviTamaSia. amave reitingSi saqarTvelos<br />
nakrebi 121-e safexurzea<br />
da imedia, ianvris testebis Sedegebi<br />
dawinaurebis safuZvels mogvcems.<br />
faCulia xuTeuls miRma darCa<br />
evropuli<br />
gamocda futsalSi<br />
dasrulda masStaburi internet-gamokiTxva,<br />
romelsac amerikis nacionaluri<br />
sakalaTburTo asociaciis `yvela varskvlavis~<br />
matCis sastarto xuTeulebi<br />
unda gamoevlina. saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
nakrebisa da `golden steit uoriorsis~<br />
centrma, zaza faCuliam, 2017 wlis `ol<br />
staris~ gamokiTxvaSi 1 528 941 xma miiRo<br />
da dasavleT konferenciaSi mxolod Tanagundel<br />
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gamokiTxvis axali formatis Tanaxmad,<br />
mainc sastarto xuTeuls miRma darCa –<br />
axali wesebiT, romelic, eWvia, rom swored<br />
faCulias gamo Secvales, `yvela varskvlavze~<br />
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ki ara, kalaTburTelebisa da<br />
mediis xmebicaa saWiro.<br />
faCulias nba-s kalaTburTelebma<br />
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Tavis poziciaze me-10, Jurnalistebma ki<br />
me-12 adgili miakuTvnes, riTac misi koeficienti<br />
gvarianad daeca da sabolood,<br />
reitingSi meeqvse pozicia daikava.<br />
zazas `ol starze~ TamaSis Sansi kidev<br />
aqvs, Tuki mas dasavleT konferenciis<br />
gundis Tavkaci, romelic `golden steit-<br />
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gamokiTxvis Sedegad SerCeuli xu-<br />
Teulebi ki ase gamoiyureba:<br />
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ianis antetokounmpo, jimi batleri.<br />
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stef kari, kevin duranti, kavai leonardi,<br />
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`am erTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi TiToeuli<br />
Tqvenganisgan Zalian didi mxardaWera<br />
miviRe, risTvisac uRrmesi madloba<br />
minda gadagixadoT da Cemi pativiscema<br />
gamovxato. CemTvis didi pativi iqneboda,<br />
Cemi qveyana `ol starze~ warmomedgina,<br />
magram amiT araferi mTavrdeba, win<br />
Zalian didi miznebia. vamayob Cemi qveyniT<br />
da Cemi qarTvelebiT~, _ dawera fa-<br />
Culiam socialur qselSi.<br />
amasobaSi ki faCuliam sezonis erTerTi<br />
yvelaze gamorCeuli Sexvedra Caatara.<br />
misi `golden steiti~ `orlando<br />
mejiqs~ estumra da 118:98 daamarcxa. ama-<br />
Si zazam mniSvnelovani wvlili Seitana.<br />
tradiciulad, igi sastarto xuTeulSi<br />
iyo da moedanze 20 wuTi gaatara, am<br />
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5 moxsna, 1 pasi da 2 CaWra moagrova.<br />
dRes saqarTvelos futsalis erovnuli nakrebi<br />
evropis 2018 wlis Cempionatis pirveli sakvali-<br />
fikacio etaps iwyebs. jgufs Tbilisis axali<br />
sportis sasaxle maspinZlobs. saqarTvelos nakre-<br />
bis metoqeebi israeli, Sotlandia da Sveicaria<br />
iqnebian, ZiriTadi SesarCevi turniris sagzurs ki<br />
mxolod jgufis gamarjvebuli moipovebs.<br />
kalendari aseTia:<br />
24 ianvari<br />
17:30 Sveicaria-Sotlandia<br />
20:00 saqarTvelo-israeli<br />
25 ianvari<br />
17:30 israeli-Sveicaria<br />
20:00 saqarTvelo-Sotlandia<br />
27 ianvari<br />
17:30 Sotlandia-israeli<br />
20:00 Sveicaria-saqarTvelo<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebis mTavarma mwvrTnelma<br />
avTandil asaTianma arCevani Semdeg fexburTele-<br />
bze gaakeTa: zviad kupataZe („ttg-iugra“, ruseTi),<br />
jaba jamburia (mfk „tatiSvili“), daviT boboxiZe<br />
(mfk „Telasi“), SoTa Tofuria (mfk „Telasi“), kaxa<br />
maisaia (mfk „Telasi“), arCil sebiskveraZe (mfk<br />
„Telasi“), levan kobaiZe (mfk „tatiSvili“), SoTa<br />
WanuyvaZe (mfk „tatiSvili“), zurab lukava (mfk<br />
„tatiSvili“), murTaz kakabaZe (mfk „tatiSvili“),<br />
irakli Todua (bC, gomeli, belarusi), giorgi niS-<br />
nianiZe („spartaki“, moskovi, ruseTi), giorgi ti-<br />
kuriSvili („viteni“, belarusi), roninio da silva<br />
(ael, kviprosi), nikoloz kurtaniZe (mfk Tsu).<br />
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