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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

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eqskluzivi<br />

yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

gv. 7<br />

`sosoNEWS~-i<br />

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01.201<br />

.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />

mediabazarze?!<br />

cixis kadrebi givi TargamaZes<br />

da gigi ugulavas gadaveci<br />

gv. 2<br />

giorgi lomia:<br />

`naperwkalic ki<br />

sakmarisi iqneba,<br />

qveyanaSi bunti moxdes~<br />

N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 gv. 10<br />

w.<br />

eqskluziuri<br />

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gv. 4<br />

nika rurua:<br />

`ivaniSvili<br />

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ver gadaaqcevs~<br />

gv. 16<br />

1

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Tqva, rom, realurad, misi sayrdeni<br />

Ss ministris moadgile gela xvedeliZea<br />

da am dRidan gaxda xvedeliZe<br />

rogorc „qarTuli ocnebis”,<br />

ise „nacionaluri moZraobis” calkeuli<br />

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flirtisa, pirveli marcxi<br />

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7000-kaciani partiis yrilobis Catarebis<br />

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am dros xelisuflebam ukve icoda,<br />

rom giga bokeria danapirebs<br />

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sakuTar partias ver Camoa-<br />

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_ ugulavas gamoSveba partiis yrilobamde<br />

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afinansebda.<br />

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2007 wlis 2 noembers gaimarTa,<br />

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mixeil saakaSvili<br />

misTvis sabediswero, _ xelisuflebam<br />

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aRZra badri patarkaciSvilis<br />

winaaRmdeg da masze Zebna gamoacxada.<br />

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megobrebi ixseneben, rom es gadawyvetileba<br />

man vano CxartiSvilTan<br />

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mere bolo wuTs miiRo.<br />

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muxti nel-nela dasasrulisken midioda,<br />

amas emateboda is faqtoric,<br />

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sastiki darbeva daiwyes.<br />

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sayovelTao mobilizacia<br />

gamoiwvia da SuadRisas parlamentis<br />

wina moedani, faqtobrivad,<br />

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specdaniSnulebis razmma sastikad<br />

daarbia, imave dRes aseve daarbies<br />

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telekompania „imedSi”, _ gausworda<br />

Jurnalistebs, deputatebs<br />

da televiziis teqnikur personals.<br />

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Tavmjdomare nino burjanaZe<br />

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daureka. rogorc gairkva, televiziis<br />

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komitetis Tavmjdomare, givi TargamaZe.<br />

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swored televiziis darbevas<br />

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uwyebebis mier gadametebuli<br />

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mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi piradad<br />

mixeil saakaSvils uwevda.<br />

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meore dRes mixeil saakaSvils kabinetSi<br />

giga bokeria da gigi ugulava<br />

Seuvardnen da mas kategori-<br />

2 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

istoria aqvs: es is droa, roca la-<br />

Sa nacvliSvilis faqtoris gamo<br />

Cemi da biZina ivaniSvilis dapirispireba<br />

ukve dawyebulia, moqmedi<br />

premieri yvela sajaro gamosvla-<br />

Si yvela brunvaSi axsenebs Cems<br />

saxelsa da gvars, momxdaria xvedeliZis<br />

saqmesTan dakavSirebuli<br />

skandalic da „reportioris” damfuZnebeli<br />

nugzar fofxaZe daxmarebas<br />

mTxovs, mas informacia<br />

aqvs imis Taobaze, rom giorgi<br />

faresiSvili Tamar CergoleiSvils<br />

Sexvda da igegmeba farTomas-<br />

Stabiani Seteva „reportioris”<br />

winaaRmdeg. nugzar fofxaZe mTxovs,<br />

vnaxo givi TargamaZe da mas<br />

misi Txovna gadavce, rom Tamar<br />

CergoleiSvili faresiSvilis mxares<br />

ar aRmoCndes. am droisTvis,<br />

jer kidev, ar vici, rom nugzar<br />

fofxaZis es Txovna piradad Cem-<br />

Tvis dagebuli maxea, rom realurad<br />

mas givi TargamaZesTan kargaxniani<br />

nacnoboba akavSirebs, maT<br />

Soris, fasdaudebeli daxmareba<br />

aqvs gaweuli misTvis „imedidan”<br />

Jurnalistebis gadmobirebis saqmeSi.<br />

me vxvdebi givi TargamaZes „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” ofisSi, gadavcem<br />

mas nugzar fofxaZis Txovnas,<br />

samagierod viReb pirobas, rom<br />

Tamar CergoleiSvili giorgi faresiSvilis<br />

skandalSi ar Caereva.<br />

paralelurad, socialur qselSi<br />

ukve vrceldeba informacia imis<br />

Taobaze, rom me givi TargamaZes vxvdebi,<br />

misgan viReb masalebs da a.<br />

S. es grZeldeba manam, sanam ramdenime<br />

Tvis mere erT-erT sajaro inteviuSi<br />

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nugzar fofxaZis TxovniT<br />

Sevxvdi. am dRis mere momentalurad<br />

wydeba Cemi da givi TargamaZis<br />

erT konteqstSi xseneba.<br />

gigi ugulavasa da irakli<br />

RaribaSvilis partiul Sexvedrebs<br />

rom davubrundeT, Ss ministri<br />

irakli RaribaSvili erT punqtad<br />

ayenebs pirobas, rom me givi TargamaZe<br />

unda Camexsnas, rac Seexeba<br />

danarCen pirobebs, saqme exeba qveynidan<br />

wasul maRalCinosnebs, rom<br />

maTze interpoliT Zebna ar unda<br />

gamocxaddes da politikuri dakavebebic<br />

unda Sewydes. am informaciis<br />

miRebis Semdeg CemTvis ukve<br />

cxadia, rom nugzar fofxaZe „qronika+”-is<br />

faqtoriT irakli RaribaSvilTan<br />

garkveul spekulaciebs<br />

eweva da nel-nela vcdilob distancirebas,<br />

Tumca, irkveva, rom<br />

bolomde prevencias mainc ver vaxerxeb.<br />

ugulavasa da RaribaSvilis kuluarul<br />

molaparakebebs realurad<br />

Sedegi ar gamouRia, xelisuflebam<br />

arc erTi dapireba ar Seasrula,<br />

interpoliT Zebna gamoacxada<br />

daviT kezeraSvilze, zurab<br />

adeiSvilze, daTa axalaiaze, erekle<br />

koduasa da sxva maRalCinosnebze,<br />

gigi ugulava ki adgilobrivi<br />

arCevnebis dros daakava. Cveni<br />

wyaro ambobs, rom dakavebamde<br />

gigi ugulava mixeil saakaSvils<br />

kievSi Sexvda, saakaSvilma Tbilisis<br />

yofil mers urCia, rom cixeSi<br />

ar Camjdariyo da masTan erTad<br />

ukrainaSi gaegrZelebina brZola.<br />

rogorc amboben, saqarTveloSi<br />

dabrunebulma ugulavam, megobrebTan<br />

konsultaciis Semdeg, mixeil<br />

saakaSvilis rCevis gaTvaliswineba<br />

gadawyvita, gamoacxada,<br />

rom ukrainaSi patriarq kirilTan<br />

Sesaxvedrad midioda, ukan dasabrunebeli<br />

bileTic aRebuli hqonda,<br />

magram xelisuflebam gigi ugulavas<br />

dapireba, cxadia, ar daijera<br />

da Tbilisis meri aeroportSi<br />

daakava.<br />

ugulavas dakavebamde ki moxda<br />

da gigi ugulavas gadaveci<br />

irakli RaribaSvili<br />

kidev erTi skandaluri faqti, romlis<br />

uSualo monawilec piradad<br />

me gaxlavarT da dRes ganviTarebuli<br />

movlenebis fonze da maRali<br />

sazogadoebrivi interesidan<br />

gamomdinare, Tavs valdebulad miviCnev,<br />

am Temaze sajarod visaubro.<br />

2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi<br />

gadamwyveti faqtori cixis<br />

skandaluri kadrebis gasajaroeba<br />

iyo. dRemde ar wydeba polemika<br />

imis Taobaze, rogor moaxerxa<br />

gldanis cixis badragma vladimer<br />

bedukaZem kadrebis gadaReba da<br />

daxuruli sivrcidan ise gamotana,<br />

rom amis Sesaxeb verc kud-ma, verc<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa saministrom veraferi<br />

Seityo. arsebobs araerTi<br />

varaudi da Wori am procesSi saakaSvilis<br />

xelisuflebis Zalovani<br />

uwyebis maRalCinosnebis monawileobis<br />

Taobaze. simarTle mxolod<br />

maSin gairkveva, roca procesis<br />

monawile romelime mxare, an<br />

konkretulad vladimer bedukaZe<br />

sajarod alaparakdeba. es mcdeloba<br />

mas erTxel ukve hqonda, magram<br />

CemTvis sruliad gaugebari<br />

movlenebis gamo „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” erTma frTam am Sansze<br />

nebayoflobiT ganacxada uari.<br />

2013 wlis Semodgomaze cixis<br />

skandaluri kadrebis avtori,<br />

vladimer bedukaZe, yvelasgan daignorebuli<br />

da mitovebuli, xSirad<br />

stumrobda „qronika+”-is ofiss.<br />

marTalia, mas saxelmwifo dacva,<br />

jer kidev, icavda, magram materialurad<br />

biznesmen Tamaz elizbaraSvilis<br />

garda sxva aravin exmareboda,<br />

_ Tu aseTi daufasebeli<br />

iqneboda Cemi saqme, saerTod, ras<br />

movikali Tavi am kadrebis gamosatanad,<br />

samsaxuri mqonda, leqciebs<br />

vkiTxulobdi, ojaxs vuvlidi, ras<br />

avitexe Tavis tkivilio?! _ xSirad<br />

ambobda. erT-erTi aseTi Sexvedris<br />

dros man cixis kadrebis<br />

sruli versia maCvena, maT Soris,<br />

e. w. cocxebis kadrebi da miTxra,<br />

rom es scena dadgmulia, realurad,<br />

aranairi cocxiT gaupatiurebis<br />

scena ar yofila, yvelaferi<br />

mxolod garkveuli miznebisTvis<br />

gakeTdao. Tu vinme dainteresebuli<br />

piri iqneba, ise gamamwares amaTma<br />

(xelisuflebas gulisxmobda),<br />

„nacebis” mxridan mokavSire Tu<br />

meyoleba, mzad var, yvelaferze<br />

sajarod vilaparakoo. mTxova, vinmesTan<br />

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am Txovnis mere me piradad<br />

vnaxe givi TargamaZe, diskze Cawerili<br />

cixis kadrebis sruli versia<br />

da bedukaZis Txovna gadaveci. lado<br />

bedukaZe TiTqmis Tvenaxevris<br />

ganmavlobaSi elodeboda givi<br />

TargamaZis pasuxs. periodulad<br />

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misi sakiTxi. ori Tvis Tavze<br />

igive kadrebis sruli versia, saer-<br />

To megobris meSveobiT, gigi ugulavas<br />

gavugzavne. iqidan dabrunda<br />

kiTxva, _ iyo Tu ara kadrebis<br />

sanacvlod saWiro Tanxa? razec<br />

mkafio pasuxi miiRo, rom aranairi<br />

Tanxa kadrebSi gadasaxdeli ar<br />

iyo.<br />

arc givi TargamaZes, arc gigi<br />

ugulavas aranairi interesi cixis<br />

kadrebTan da vladimer bedukaZis<br />

sajaro aRiarebasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

ar gamouxatavT, samagierod, umciresobis<br />

lideri daviT baqraZe<br />

ixdida bodiSebs sajarod damontaJebuli<br />

cocxebis kadrebis gamo.<br />

arc lado bedukaZis winadadeba<br />

gaxda maTTvis saintereso, magram<br />

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maTganma xelisuflebas xma<br />

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sainformacio saagento „Tbilisi<br />

24" gauxsnes, zaza daviTaias meSveobiT<br />

Cveni dapirispirebis inspirireba<br />

moaxdines da, sruliad moulodnelad,<br />

lado bedukaZis Tavdasxmis<br />

obieqti piradad me gavxdi.<br />

aqve mkafiod unda iTqvas isic,<br />

rom rodesac saubaria cixis kadrebze,<br />

karantinis daSlis garda<br />

yvela sxva kadri piradad vladimer<br />

bedukaZes ekuTvnis, xolo<br />

karantinis daSla, romelic sistemur<br />

danaSauls asaxavs, daTa akobias<br />

mieraa gadaRebuli giorgi<br />

lomias organizebiT.<br />

bolo dros ganviTarebulma<br />

movlenebma cxadyo, rom saakaSvilis<br />

qarTuli politikidan distancireba<br />

erTnairad Sedioda<br />

rogorc „qarTuli ocnebis”, aseve<br />

misive Tanagundelebis intereseb-<br />

Si da es daiwyo ara 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />

arCevnebis mere, aramed<br />

gacilebiT adre, 2010 wels.<br />

ra roli hqonda cixis kadrebis<br />

mopovebasa da gavrcelebaSi saakaSvilis<br />

xelisuflebis Zalovani<br />

uwyebis calkeul warmomadgenlebs,<br />

maT Soris, amiran mesxels,<br />

„qronika+” aqamde ucnobi detalebiT<br />

am Temas samomavlod aucileblad<br />

daubrundeba.<br />

giga bokeria<br />

givi TargamaZe<br />

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eqskluziuri interviu<br />

didi albaTobaa imisa, rom 2017<br />

Tamar rostiaSvili<br />

weli kidev ufro daZabuli da<br />

577 10 07 06<br />

peripetiuli iyos; kidev ufro<br />

didi vnebaTaRelvebi da kidev<br />

ufro xmauriani sasamarTlo procesebi gvelis.<br />

„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs eqsk-<br />

luziurad pasuxobs uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare _<br />

nino gvenetaZe:<br />

_ qalbatono nino, maSin, ro-<br />

desac saubari imaze, rom bevri<br />

mosamarTle ar unda ikavebdes<br />

aRniSnul Tanamdebobas, apar-<br />

atSi piriqiT, maTi ricxvis<br />

zrda aris SesamCnevi. Tu Sei-<br />

Zleba, mosamarTleTa raodeno-<br />

ba da maTi ricxovnobis zrdac<br />

rom gviTxraT wina welTan Se-<br />

darebiT...<br />

_ 2016 wels mosamarTleTa<br />

ricxvis gazrdam saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

sistemaSi aparatis<br />

TanamSromelTa ricxvis mateba<br />

ganapiroba. radgan cifrebi<br />

gainteresebT, getyviT, rom, magaliTad,<br />

2015 welTan SedarebiT,<br />

roca saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

mosamarTleTa ricxvi 230<br />

iyo, 2016 wels 267-mde gaizarda,<br />

maT Soris, sistemaSi warmodgenilia<br />

51% qali da 49%<br />

mamakaci mosamarTle. amavdroulad,<br />

yvelaze gadatvirTul<br />

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlo-<br />

Si, 79 mosamarTlis nacvlad,<br />

dRes 94 mosamarTle axorcielebs<br />

marTlmsajulebas.<br />

_ 2017 wels rogor iqneba?<br />

_ 2017 wels, saerTo sasamar-<br />

Tloebis sistemaSi, mosamarTleTa<br />

raodenoba kidev gaizrdeba<br />

da mosamarTleebisTvis gamoyofili<br />

319 Stati Seivseba. amaze<br />

iusticiis umaRlesma sabWom<br />

ukve mosamarTleobis kandidat-<br />

Ta konkursi gamoacxada.<br />

_ qalbatono nino, mosamarTleTa<br />

konferencias dav-<br />

eswari da gulwrfelad gety-<br />

viT, iq iseTi asakovani mosama-<br />

rTleebi, romlebic, albaT,<br />

SvilTaSvilebs unda zrdidnen,<br />

arc ise cotani iyvnen.<br />

_ amaze ase gipasuxebT: mosamarTleTa<br />

individualuri damoukideblobis<br />

TvalsazrisiT<br />

mniSvnelovania veneciis komisiis<br />

rekomendaciis praqtikaSi<br />

danergva _ mosamarTleTa uvado,<br />

sapensio asakis miRwevamde<br />

daniSvnis Taobaze. saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

Sesaxeb kanonSi<br />

Setanili cvlilebebiT, iusticiis<br />

umaRlesma sabWom, 2016<br />

wels pirvelad, saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

Sesaxeb organuli<br />

kanoniT gaTvaliswinebuli Sefasebis<br />

mixedviT, gamosacdeli<br />

vadiT daniSnuli 12 mosamarTle<br />

Tanamdebobaze uvadod gaamwesa.<br />

_ anu sicocxlis bolomde,<br />

ukacravad?<br />

_ sapensio asakamde. es mosamarTleebi<br />

Tbilisisa da quTaisis<br />

saapelacio sasamarTlos, quTaisis,<br />

Tbilisis, goris, cageris,<br />

siRnaRis saqalaqo da raionul<br />

sasamarTloebSi gamwesdnen.<br />

_ rogorc vici, veneciis ko-<br />

misiis daskvnaSi kritikulad<br />

aris Sefasebuli mosamarTle-<br />

Ta gamosacdeli vadiT daniSv-<br />

na. arada, es samosamarTleo<br />

gamocdilebis mqone kandidatebze<br />

saaprobacio vadis dawese-<br />

bas ewinaaRmdegeba.<br />

_ aRniSnul sakiTxze garkveuli<br />

cvlilebebi marTlmsajulebis<br />

reformis mesame talRis<br />

kanonSi dafiqsirda da SeRavaTi<br />

Seexo mxolod sakonstitucio<br />

da uzenaesi sasamarTlos yofil<br />

mosamarTleebs, romlebic<br />

qvemdgomi instanciis sasamarTloSi<br />

gamosacdeli vadis gareSe<br />

gamwesdebian. amasTan, komisia miiCnevs,<br />

rom uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

mosamarTleebi aseve uvadod<br />

unda iniSnebodnen. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, gaiTvaliswineT, rom,<br />

veneciis komisiis msgavsad, ekonomikuri<br />

TanamSromlobisa da<br />

ganviTarebis organizaciis<br />

(OECD) saqarTvelos antikorufciuli<br />

Sefasebis mesame raundis<br />

rekomendaciac uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos mosamarTleTa uvado<br />

daniSvnaze amaxvilebs yuradRebas.<br />

_ sasamarTlo reformis e. w.<br />

mesame talRaze visaubroT, ro-<br />

mlis mixedviTac mosamarTleTa<br />

damoukideblobis uzrunvel-<br />

sayofad iusticiis saministr-<br />

os mier inicirebuli sakanonm-<br />

deblo paketi saqarTvelos<br />

parlamentma 2016 wlis 29 de-<br />

kembers mesame mosmeniT miiRo.<br />

_ maSasadame, am cvlilebebis<br />

gansaxorcieleblad iusticiis<br />

umaRles sabWoSi menejmentis<br />

departamenti Camoyalibdeba<br />

sasamarTloSi saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />

ganawilebis sistemis<br />

efeqtianad marTvisTvis da danergvisTvis.<br />

2017 wlis pirveli<br />

ivlisidan saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />

ganawileba sapilote reJim-<br />

Si rusTavis saqalaqo sasamarT-<br />

`raionuli saqalaqo<br />

sasamarTloebis mier 2016 wels<br />

satelefono saubris farul<br />

miyuradebasa da Caweris Taobaze<br />

ganxilulia 397 Suamdgomloba,<br />

romelTagan dakmayofilda 340. es<br />

ki gaxlavT saerTo saqmeebis 85,6%.<br />

2015 wels ganxiluli iyo 373<br />

Suamdgomloba, romelTagan 306<br />

dakmayofilda, anu 82%. aqve<br />

saerTo statistikasac getyviT:<br />

pirveli instanciis sasamarTloebSi<br />

Semosuli samoqalaqo saqmeebis<br />

raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />

gaizarda 34%-iT da Seadgina 69624<br />

saqme, rac ukanaskneli wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi yvelaze maRali<br />

maCvenebelia. ganxiluli saqmeebis<br />

raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />

gaizarda 26%-iT~<br />

loSi amoqmeddeba, xolo 2017<br />

wlis 31 dekembridan srulad<br />

dainergeba saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

sistemaSi.<br />

_ anu saqmeebis eleqtronul<br />

reJimSi gadayvanas gulisx-<br />

mobT? aqamde ar iyo?<br />

_ manamde, iusticiis ministrma,<br />

uzenaes sasamarTlosTan da<br />

iusticiis umaRles sabWosTan<br />

erTad, 2016 wlis 28 ivniss, samuSao<br />

jgufi Camoayaliba da Seswavla<br />

daviwyeT sistemis rogorc<br />

teqnikuri gamarTulobis,<br />

aseve samarTlebrivi regulirebis<br />

SemuSavebis mizniT. samuSao<br />

jgufis farglebSi iusticiis<br />

umaRlesi sabWos aparatma eleqtronuli<br />

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iusticiis umaRlesi sabWo,<br />

iseve rogorc saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

departamenti, periodulad<br />

ecnoba mezobeli qveynebis<br />

gamocdilebas saqmeTa eleqtronuli<br />

ganawilebis wesis<br />

Taobaze.<br />

_ magaliTad, romeli qvey-<br />

nebis?<br />

_ magaliTad, vTanamSromlobT<br />

latviis saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

administraciasTan.<br />

latvielma kolegebma saqmeTa<br />

ganawilebis sistema gagvacnes,<br />

romelic latviaSi 2009 wlidan<br />

funqcionirebs. damatebiT, rus-<br />

Tavis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi<br />

sapilote programis SemuSavebisTvis<br />

germaniis saerTaSoriso<br />

TanamSromlobis fondis (IRZ)<br />

mxardaWeriT, 27-28 ianvars,<br />

saqarTvelos ewveva germaneli<br />

kolega, batoni vaishaupti. batoni<br />

vaishaupti ukve imyofeboda<br />

saqmeTa ganawilebis eleqtronuli<br />

programis SemuSavebis<br />

sakiTxebze 2015 wels saqarTveloSi<br />

da kargad icnobs sasamarTlo<br />

sistemas.<br />

_ qalbatono nino, mTliani<br />

sistemis eleqtronul versia-<br />

Si gadayvana da cifruli mod-<br />

ificireba Tanxebs moiTxovs da<br />

sakmaod dids. saidan elodeb-<br />

iT dafinansebas? saqarTvelos<br />

biujeti ukve gawerilia?<br />

_ serverebisa da qseluri infrastruqturis<br />

Sesacvlelad<br />

Tanxebis mobilizeba moxerxda<br />

saerTo sasamarTloebis departamentis<br />

biujetidan. 2015 wels<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentma sarezervo<br />

fondidan 580 000 lari<br />

gamouyo sasamarTlos serveris<br />

ganTavsebisTvis da saqalaqo<br />

sasamarTlos teritoriaze Senoba-nagebobis<br />

mosawyobad. germaniis<br />

saerTaSoriso TanamSromlobis<br />

sazogadoebam saservero<br />

infrastruqturis SesaZenad 100<br />

000 evros grantis finansuri mxardaWera<br />

uzrunvelyo. 2016<br />

wlis dekemberSi saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

departamentis mier<br />

Catarebuli tenderis safuZvelze<br />

axali qseluri infrastruqturis<br />

Sesyidva ganxorcielda,<br />

xolo amJamad serveris<br />

SesaZenad satendero winadadeba<br />

saerTo sasamarTloebis departamentma<br />

gamoacxada.<br />

_ reformis mesame talRis<br />

farglebSi ra sakanonmdeblo<br />

winadadebebi iqna wardgenili.<br />

rogorc gavige, axali samsaxuri,<br />

e. w. damoukidebeli inspeq-<br />

toris samsaxuri iqmneba.<br />

_ disciplinuri samarTalwarmoebis<br />

miukerZoebeli da<br />

srulyofili gamokvlevisa da<br />

winaswari Semowmebis Catarebis<br />

mizniT saqarTvelos iusticiis<br />

umaRles sabWoSi damoukidebeli<br />

inspeqtoris samsaxuris<br />

formireba moxdeba, romelsac<br />

damoukidebeli inspeqtori uxelmZRvanelebs.<br />

_ Tu SeiZleba, dagvikonkre-<br />

teT, ras gaakeTebs?<br />

_ damoukidebeli inspeqtori<br />

procesis monawile mxareTa pretenziebsa<br />

da saCivrebs Seiswavlis<br />

da Tavisi daskvniT wardgeba<br />

iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos<br />

winaSe, xolo gadawyvetilebas<br />

mosamarTlis mimarT disciplinuri<br />

devnis dawyebis Taobaze<br />

iusticiis umaRlesi sabWo miiRebs.<br />

_ gasagebia, anu damoukidebeli<br />

inspeqtori Tavad mosa-<br />

marTleebs gaakontrolebs?<br />

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nino gvenetaZesTan<br />

_ reformis mesame talRis<br />

farglebSi siaxlea sakasacio<br />

sasamarTloSi saCivris dasaSvebobis<br />

safuZvlebis gafarToebaze.<br />

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetileba adamianis<br />

uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos<br />

precedentuli gadawyvetilebidan<br />

gansxvavebul ganmartebas<br />

SemogvTavazebs, uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlo uars ver<br />

ityvis saCivris dasaSvebobaze.<br />

_ es ukve kargia! Tu ganxor-<br />

cielda, ra Tqma unda, vinaidan<br />

manamde sistematurad xdeboda<br />

amis ugulebelyofa.<br />

_ Tqven weRan mosamarTleebze<br />

mkiTxeT: veneciis komisiis<br />

rekomendaciebis Sesabamisad mosamarTleTa<br />

SerCevis procedurebi<br />

daixvewa. kanonis mixedviT<br />

mniSvnelovan siaxles warmoadgens<br />

mosamarTleTa kandidatis<br />

ufleba, gaasaCivros iusticiis<br />

umaRlesi sabWos gadawyvetileba<br />

_ uari mosamarTled<br />

gamwesebis Taobaze.<br />

_ sad saCivrdeba?<br />

_ uzenaesi sasamarTlos sakvalifikacio<br />

palataSi. sasamarTlos<br />

arsebiT sxdomaze mi-<br />

Rebuli gadawyvetilebebi gamoqveyndeba<br />

vebgverdze kanonmdeblobiT<br />

dadgenili wesiT.<br />

_ qalbatono nino, mosaxle-<br />

obas mosamarTleTa SesarCevi<br />

konkursis Riad da gamWvirval-<br />

ed Catarebas SehpirdiT. ras<br />

gulisxmobT?<br />

_ es gulisxmobs sabWos vebgverdze<br />

mosamarTleobis kandidatTa<br />

biografiuli monacemebis<br />

winaswar ganTavsebas. dainteresebul<br />

donor da arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebs SesaZlebloba<br />

hqondaT, Tvali edevnebinaT<br />

procesisTvis da sruli informacia<br />

mieRoT wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

Catarebuli 2 konkursis<br />

Taobaze. saerTo sasamarTloebis<br />

sistemaSi 104 mosamarTle<br />

gamwesda, maT Soris, 20 iusticiis<br />

umaRlesi skolis yofili msmeneli.<br />

axalgamwesebul mosamarTleebs<br />

Soris 46 yofili mosamarTlea.<br />

arc imas davmalav,<br />

rom 2016 wlis monacemebiT 13<br />

saqmeze mosamarTles axsna-ganmarteba<br />

CamoerTva, 3 saqmeze mosamarTleebs<br />

miemarTaT kerZo<br />

sarekomendacio baraTiT da 1<br />

saqmeze mosamarTles disciplinuri<br />

saxdelis saxed ganesazRvra<br />

gafrTxileba.<br />

_ farul Canawerebsa da<br />

ukanono mosmenebze minda gkiT-<br />

xoT, romlis winaaRmdegac<br />

„qronika+” Tavidanve ibrZoda.<br />

ra gaakeTa sasamarTlom amasT-<br />

an dakavSirebiT?<br />

_ raionuli saqalaqo sasamarTloebis<br />

mier 2016 wels<br />

satelefono saubris farul<br />

miyuradebasa da Caweris Taobaze<br />

ganxilulia 397 Suamdgomloba,<br />

romelTagan dakmayofilda<br />

340. es ki gaxlavT saerTo saqmeebis<br />

85,6%. 2015 wels ganxiluli<br />

iyo 373 Suamdgomloba, romelTagan<br />

306 dakmayofilda, anu<br />

82%. aqve saerTo statistikasac<br />

getyviT: pirveli instanciis<br />

sasamarTloebSi Semosuli samoqalaqo<br />

saqmeebis raodenoba<br />

2015 welTan SedarebiT gaizarda<br />

34%-iT da Seadgina 69624<br />

saqme, rac ukanaskneli wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi yvelaze maRali<br />

maCvenebelia. ganxiluli saqmeebis<br />

raodenoba 2015 welTan SedarebiT<br />

gaizarda 26%-iT.<br />

_ arada, miuxedavad ganxi-<br />

luli saqmeebis raodenobis<br />

zrdisa, bolos ganuxilvelad<br />

darCenili saqmeebis xvedriTi<br />

wili, 2015 wlis 29%-dan gai-<br />

zarda 2016 wlis 37%-mde.<br />

_ geTanxmebiT, amitom iusticiis<br />

umaRlesma sabWom mar-<br />

Tlmsajulebis xarisxis gasaumjobeseblad<br />

mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebebi<br />

miiRo samoqalaqo<br />

kategoriis davebis swrafad<br />

da efeqtianad ganxilvis mizniT.<br />

kerZod, yvelaze metad datvir-<br />

Tul Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi,<br />

mikrosafinanso organizaciebis,<br />

sabanko dawesebulebebisa<br />

da arasabanko sadepozito<br />

dawesebulebis mier dadebuli<br />

sesxis xelSekrulebidan nawarmoebi<br />

davebi calke qvekategoriebad<br />

gamoiyo valdebulebiTi<br />

samarTlis kategoriis<br />

davebSi. Sesabamisad, ganisazRvra<br />

mosamarTleTa optimaluri<br />

raodenoba, romelTac am kategoriis<br />

davebis ganxilva daevalaT,<br />

rac samoqalaqo saqmeTa<br />

kolegiaSi arsebuli davebis<br />

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56%-s warmoadgens. mikrosafinanso<br />

organizaciebis, sabanko<br />

dawesebulebebisa da arasabanko<br />

sadepozito dawesebulebis<br />

ganmxilveli mosamarTleebis viwro<br />

specializacia uzrunvelyofs<br />

samoqalaqo saqmeTa kanoniT<br />

dadgenil vadaSi ganxilvas da,<br />

zogadad, xels Seuwyobs gaWianurebuli<br />

samoqalaqo samarTalwarmoebis<br />

problemis Semcirebas.<br />

pirveli instanciis sasamarTloebSi<br />

Semosuli sisxlis samarTlis<br />

saqmeebis raodenoba,<br />

gasul welTan SedarebiT, Semcirda<br />

6%-iT, xolo ganxiluli<br />

saqmeebis raodenoba gaizarda<br />

7%-iT. ganxiluli saqmeebis raodenobis<br />

zrdasTan erTad, periodis<br />

bolos ganuxilvelad dar-<br />

Cenili saqmeebis xvedriTi wili<br />

2015 wlis 22%-dan Semcirda 2016<br />

wlis 17%-mde. Semosuli da ganxiluli<br />

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeebis<br />

zrda da, Sesabamisad, ganuxilvelad<br />

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vici, rom ramdenime e. w. JurnalistTan<br />

erTad gaiara es sakiTxi.<br />

am mediasaagentoebs swored<br />

am Jurnalistebs gadaunawilebs.<br />

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im vebgverdidan miiRebT.<br />

_ e. i. gogaSvili „soso-<br />

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_ albaT, saxalisod ki Tqvi<br />

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maneTs emTxveva. magram Tu gogaSvili<br />

samsaxurs da Zalau-<br />

flebas dakargavs, saintere-<br />

soa, ratom unda dasWirdes mas<br />

ukve mediis mxardaWera?!<br />

_ Zalauflebis garda adamianebs<br />

yvelaze metad Tavisuflebis<br />

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imas niSnavs, rom Tavisuflad<br />

N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />

SeiZleba, sosos mimarT sisxlis<br />

samarTlis pasuxismgeblobac<br />

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RaribaSvili, radgan gogaSvili<br />

RaribaSvilze metad jiutia. is<br />

ar emorCileba im viTarebas,<br />

rom unda wavides da vinc nebiT<br />

ar midis, ZaliT gahyavT.<br />

dRes sosos uWirs imis gacnobiereba,<br />

rom is seriozuli<br />

safrTxis winaSe dgas. mas, mxolod<br />

da mxolod, Tavisi savarZeli<br />

adardebs. am dros,<br />

sxva, metad mniSvnelovani _ misi<br />

Tavisufleba _ ufro da ufro<br />

did safrTxes Seicavs.<br />

_ Tu gogaSvilis „sosoniu-<br />

si” male daiwyebs muSaobas da<br />

dRes Cven es ki ukve viciT, misi<br />

ojaxuri suraTebi, statiebi,<br />

interviuebi gamoqveynde-<br />

ba da sajaro gaxdeba, soso<br />

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amiT sosos mimarT ufro<br />

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Cndeba. fiqrob, rom es mis 2017<br />

wlamde arsebul kiTxvebs ki ar<br />

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urebs?<br />

_ ar vici, ra Sedegebs elian.<br />

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zis da vebgverdebis awyobaze<br />

muSaobs, ramdenime JurnalistTan<br />

ukve iyo konsultacia<br />

da aman sruliad unda Secvalos<br />

amindi. es aris mTavari<br />

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dRes sosos uWirs imis gacnobiereba, rom is seriozuli<br />

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amitom auqcions Tvals vadevnebdiT,<br />

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auqcionze ar dadebula, kapitali<br />

8 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.

ar Secvlila, am mxriv, araferi gakeTebula,<br />

erTaderTi, Senobanagebobis<br />

farTi dafiqsirda. samxaraulis<br />

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Tanaxmani arian, magram ratom<br />

ar dadga kenWissayrel nusxaSi<br />

es sakiTxi Tundac 19 nomebers,<br />

rodesac parlamentma muSaoba<br />

daiwyo da momdevno dReebSi,<br />

rodesac sesiebi gvqonda, ratom<br />

ar daayena aravin es sakiTxi<br />

im kenWissayrel nusxaSi?! reglamentiT<br />

asea gaTvaliswinebuli<br />

- Tu, mxolod da mxolod,<br />

mosmeniT aris miRebuli raRac<br />

sakiTxi da, magaliTad, Zvel parlaments<br />

aqvs, rom erTi mosmena<br />

gaiara sakiTxma, kenWissayrel<br />

nusxaSi ar aris Seyvanili.<br />

Tu axali parlamenti modis, mas<br />

SeuZlia, rom is sakiTxi saer-<br />

Tod gaauqmos, amis ufleba aqvs<br />

axal parlaments, magram Tu<br />

kenWissayrel nusxaSi ido da is<br />

sakiTxi iyo Seyvanili, ar aqvs<br />

ufleba, rom parlamentma is<br />

sakiTxi gverdiT gadados, aucileblad<br />

unda ganixilos, rom<br />

vuyriT kenWs, ar miviReT da<br />

raRac konsensusamde ver mivediT.<br />

maSin es sakiTxi isev gadadis<br />

sakonstitucio komisiaSi,<br />

midis ganxilva, axali garemoebebi<br />

daemateba da isev unda daubrundes<br />

parlaments, magram<br />

xom SeiZleba, pirvelive mosmeniT<br />

miviRoT es kanonproeqti?!<br />

aqedan gamomdinare vambobT,<br />

rom Tu yvela Tanaxmaa,<br />

Tu yvelas awyobs, maSin davayenoT<br />

es sakiTxi, erTxel da samudamod<br />

vuyaroT kenWi da es ambavi<br />

davamTavroT! Cveni iniciativiT<br />

axla unda Sevides es kanonproeqti,<br />

Zvelia, magram Cven<br />

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unda ganvaaxloT da SevitanoT.<br />

vnaxoT, ra iqneba...<br />

- Tqveni prognozi rogoria,<br />

gaqvT imedi, rom xelisufleba<br />

daTmobaze wamova?<br />

- xandaxan miWirs raRac logikuri<br />

daskvnis dadeba, radgan<br />

logikasTan ar gvaqvs xolme<br />

saqme. saRad moazrovne xelisufleba,<br />

ra Tqma unda, mxars dau-<br />

Wers am sakiTxs da gaauqmebs<br />

maJoritarul sistemas. Zalian<br />

bevri problemaa dRes saqarTveloSi,<br />

ukve Sewuxebulia xalxi<br />

da patara naperwkalic ki sakmarisi<br />

iqneba imisTvis, rom ra-<br />

Rac axali bunti wamoiwyos qveyanaSi.<br />

RmerTma dagvifaros isev<br />

sisxliani aqciebisgan da a.S.<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, yovelTvis<br />

sjobs, xelisuflebam iseTi<br />

nabiji gadadgas, romelic xalxs<br />

daawynarebs da Tu xelisufleba<br />

saRad azrovnebs, bunebrivia,<br />

rom am nabijs gadadgams.<br />

xandaxan mixeil saakaSvilic<br />

ar uSvebda aseT Secdomebs<br />

da xalxis azrs iTvaliswinebda,<br />

rodesac dainaxavda, rom aRelveba<br />

marTla seriozul piks<br />

aRwevda. isic cdilobda, rom<br />

raRac kompromisze wasuliyo.<br />

gaxsovT, prezidentobis erTi<br />

weli rom moiklo, gadadga da<br />

Semdeg kidev erTi arCevnebi CavatareT.<br />

saakaSvilsac ki eSinoda<br />

aRelvebuli xalxis poziciis.<br />

rac Seexeba am xelisuflebas,<br />

Zalian bevri ulogiko<br />

ram aqvT gakeTebuli.<br />

- magaliTad ras daasax-<br />

elebT?<br />

- magaliTad, 2015 wels qalaqis<br />

meriam konkursi gamoacxada<br />

myari narCenebis TemasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, sadac 12 kompania<br />

monawileobda. saboloo<br />

jamSi, ori kompania darCa. er-<br />

Ti kompania 600 milioni evros<br />

investicias sTavazobda, meore<br />

ki - 74 milionis odenobiT. mowveuli<br />

iyo ori eqsperti, erTi<br />

iyo „ibiardis“ eqsperti, meore<br />

- SvedeTis. SvedeTis eqspertma<br />

Tqva, rom plazmuri teqnologia<br />

aris uaxlesi donis, me amis<br />

eqsperti ar varo da wavida;<br />

„ibiardis“ eqspertma Tqva, rom<br />

geTvis gareSe am konkurss azri<br />

ar aqvso. geTvi aris, rodesac<br />

kompania ambobs, rom nagvis gadasaxadi<br />

iqneba Cadebuli mis<br />

saqmianobaSi da meriis piroba<br />

aseTi iyo, rom kompania maSin<br />

imarjvebs, Tu geTvize uars<br />

ambobs. orive kompania ambobda<br />

uars geTvize da „ibiardis“<br />

eqsperti, romelic moiwvies da<br />

10-15 aTasi dolari gadauxades,<br />

ambobs, rom Tu geTvi ar aris,<br />

Cemi eqspertuli daskvna mainc<br />

araferSi gamogadgebaTo. adga<br />

da wavida. gaamarjvebines 74-<br />

milionian kompanias. ismis kiTxva,<br />

- rodesac qveyanaSi aseTi<br />

gaWirvebaa, rodesac kompania<br />

600 milionis investiciis Cadebas<br />

apirebs saqarTveloSi da<br />

ambobs, rom daaxloebiT 1500-<br />

dan 1800 kacamde iqneba dasaqmebuli<br />

30 wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />

mSeneblobis periodSi es piroba<br />

3-dan 5 wlamde iyo da 5-dan<br />

6 aTasi kacis dasaqmebas gulisxmobda,<br />

xelisufleba uars<br />

ityoda aseT proeqtze, roca<br />

meore kompania asaqmebda mxolod<br />

40 kacs?! plus mTlianad<br />

narCenebs utilizacias ver uke-<br />

Tebda da rasac ver amuSavebda,<br />

4-5% rCeboda da plazmuri teqnologia<br />

amuSavebs mTlianad,<br />

araferi rCeba. Tu Sen marTla<br />

zrunav xalxze, socialurad<br />

aseTi gaWirvebuli foni gaqvs,<br />

aseT investiciaze uars ityodi?<br />

ra Tqma unda, ara! e.i. Tu<br />

uars ambob, amis ukan raRac, an<br />

viRac dgas! 74-milioniani kompaniidan<br />

SesaZlebelia, „atkati“<br />

aqvT aRebuli 4-5 milioni<br />

da gaamarjvebines im kompanias.<br />

me maSinac vyvirodi am sakiTxze<br />

da maSin Tqveni gazeTis<br />

meSveobiTac gavida informacia,<br />

magram rodesac parlamentSi ar<br />

xar, opoziciuri partia xar,<br />

amas uyureben zereled - iyvirebs<br />

da gaCerdeba, magram axla<br />

parlamentSi var. axla gamoviTxove<br />

meriidan orive eqspertis<br />

daskvna, 20 dRea velodebiT<br />

pasuxs da merias rom SevaxseneT,<br />

dRes darekes, rom Tqvengan<br />

wamosuli werili dakarguliao.<br />

ubralod, gamecina,<br />

rodemde unda gawelon ase? meore<br />

werils gavagzavni da, saboloo<br />

jamSi, pasuxis gacema mainc<br />

mouwevT. axla amaT erTmaneTSi<br />

aqvT datakebebi, rom Sen<br />

xom momawerine xeli, axla Sen<br />

age pasuxi, meria qumsiSvils da<br />

viRacas eubneba da a.S. amaT sakuTari<br />

Tavi TviTon Caigdes am<br />

dReSi da ratom? viRacas,<br />

ubralod, jibis fulad undoda<br />

4-5 milioni, SeiZleba 2 milionic,<br />

me ar vici, ra Tanxa aqvT<br />

aRebuli. Cemi varaudia, rom<br />

korufciasTan gvaqvs saqme, magram<br />

vTqvaT, rom Tanxa ar aqvT<br />

aRebuli, ratom Rupav qalaqs?!<br />

ratom akargvineb 1500 adamians<br />

Semosavlis wyaros?! raRac<br />

logikuri mizezi xom unda arsebobdes?!<br />

amitom mimaCnia, rom<br />

es aris Tanxa, sxva mizezi,<br />

ubralod, gaugebaria.<br />

- kidev ras miiCnevT xelisu-<br />

flebis mTavar problemad?<br />

- magaliTad, aqcizebis gaZvireba,<br />

esec xom arasworad gadadgmuli<br />

nabiji iyo. jer er-<br />

Ti, xelisuflebasa da xalxs<br />

Soris komunikacia yovelTvis<br />

aucilebelia. xalxs ise avuxsni,<br />

rom es saWiroa da amis gakeTeba<br />

amas da amas mogvitans.<br />

ar unda moatyuo xalxi! Tu xelisuflebisa<br />

da xalxis komunikacia<br />

arsebobs, arasworia!<br />

rodesac ambob, rom me vaweseb<br />

aqcizs, es ar aris komunikacia,<br />

es aris informaciis miwodeba.<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

komunikacia iqneba maSin, rom me<br />

gavSalo am aqcizis principi,<br />

Tu rame gegmaSi maqvs, es yvelaferi<br />

unda movuyve mosaxleobas,<br />

rom dadebiTad Seafason<br />

Cem mier gadadgmuli nabiji.<br />

rodesac gamovdivar da xistad<br />

vambob, rom aqcizs vaZvireb da<br />

modi, nu daiwyebT axla imaze<br />

saubars, rom is gamiZvirdeba da<br />

raRac, Cven vambobT, rom es<br />

aris swori gza, ar SeiZleba, es<br />

adamianis Seuracxyofaa. yvelas<br />

esmis, rom navTobze gaZvirebuli<br />

aqcizi mTlianad aZvirebs<br />

produqts. yvelafers rom Tavi<br />

davaneboT, navTobze gaZvirda<br />

aqcizi da gaZvirda yvelaferze<br />

imitom, rom Cven pirdapir<br />

varT mibmulebi transportTan.<br />

ismis kiTxva, - gaZvirebuli aqcizi<br />

ufro metad mniSvnelovani<br />

iyo am xelisuflebisTvis<br />

Tu, magaliTad, 600-milioniani<br />

investicia, romelic, garkveulwilad,<br />

cota ganmuxtavda<br />

TviTon savaluto fons. lari<br />

yoveldRe imitom ecema, rom ar<br />

Semodis da brunvaSi ar aris<br />

dolari, evro da a.S., anu rac<br />

ufro deficitSia dolari, miT<br />

ufro imatebs misi kursi. Cven<br />

varT mibmulebi dolarze. arsebobs<br />

aseTi rame, romelic xelisuflebas<br />

„patriotTa aliansis“<br />

Tavmjdomare daviT Tarxan-mouravma<br />

SesTavaza da am<br />

Temaze isaubra, rom dolarizaciac<br />

SemoviRoT, anu iyos brunvaSi<br />

dolari, iseve rogorc lari.<br />

maSin meti dolari Semova.<br />

garkveulwilad, es, ra Tqma<br />

unda, lars gaaufasurebs. sxvadasxva<br />

qveynis magaliTia, sadac<br />

dolari Semodis da aris mimoqcevaSi,<br />

sakuTari valuta fass<br />

kargavs, magram rodesac dolari<br />

mudmiv brunvaSi iqneba, mere,<br />

erT mSvenier dRes, SegiZlia,<br />

dolari erovnul valutasTan<br />

gaaTanabro, saerTod dolari<br />

gaauqmo da erovnuli valuta<br />

gamouSva. es stabilurad<br />

awevs socialur dones, manamde<br />

xom unda moimoqmedo raRac,<br />

rom ar gaufasurdes lari, pirdapir<br />

dolarze rom ar viyoT<br />

mibmulebi, rogorc viyaviT.<br />

dRes ase uamravi qveyanaa.<br />

- politikur nebas ver xe-<br />

davT?<br />

- diax, politikuri nebaa saWiro<br />

da ratom - xelisuflebas,<br />

rogorc wesi, ar surs, rom<br />

socialuri done iyos aweuli<br />

imitom, rom xelisuflebaSi<br />

dRes arian bankirebi, romlebmac<br />

marto fulis keTeba ician,<br />

mTeli cxovreba bankSi muSaobdnen<br />

da fuls akeTebdnen.<br />

is rom xelisuflebaSi modis,<br />

qveyanas uyurebs, rogorc erT<br />

did banks, nu damarwmunebs vinme,<br />

rom rodesac bankiri xelisuflebaSi<br />

modis, maSinve transformacia<br />

xdeba da xalxze<br />

zrunavs, es aris absurdi! dResac<br />

viyavi bankSi, sesxis aReba<br />

mindoda da miTxres, 15%-ad<br />

mogcemTo. vuTxari, - xalxo, axla<br />

gvinda miviRoT kanonproeqti,<br />

rom agikrZaloT amxela<br />

procentiani sesxebis gacemameTqi.<br />

15%-iani sesxi maSin, roca<br />

TviTon banks aqvs xelSekruleba<br />

evropul Tu aziur bankebTan<br />

da maTgan moaqvT wliur<br />

1-1,5%-Si?! ki magram Cvens xalxze<br />

rom ar gaakeTo fuli, gaakeTe<br />

8%, esec xom SeRavaTi iqneba<br />

maTTvis da Tqvenc xom ufro<br />

metad SegxedavT, rogorc<br />

namusian xalxs-meTqi. dRes bankirebi<br />

arian xelisuflebaSi<br />

da fuls akeTeben. ismis kiTxva,<br />

- xelisuflebaSi movida Zala<br />

da 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi sxvadasxva<br />

maqinaciiT akeTebs 2-3<br />

miliard dolars. navTobis<br />

tranziti gvaqvs, axla „gazpromTan“<br />

gaformda xelSekruleba...<br />

arCevnebi rom modis, daaxloebiT,<br />

50 miliardi SeiZleba<br />

daxarjos xelisuflebam, saitze<br />

ki wers, rom milion naxevari<br />

daxarja, magram Tqvenc xom<br />

kargad gesmiT, rom ar SeiZleba<br />

daurigo 500-500 lari koordinatorebs<br />

da mxolod am TanxaSi<br />

Caetio, es aris absurdi!<br />

xarjavs, daaxloebiT, 50-dan 80<br />

milionamde imisTvis, rom isev<br />

xelisuflebaSi darCes! ra Tqma<br />

unda, uRirs, 3 miliards akeTebs,<br />

80 milions xarjavs... es aris<br />

bankiris azrovneba da misi<br />

misia am qveyanaze! es yvelas kargad<br />

unda gvesmodes, samwuxarod,<br />

mosaxleobas ar esmis, hgonia,<br />

rom xval-zeg mixvdeba da<br />

raRacas gaakeTebs. radgan qu-<br />

CaSi ar cxrilaven adamianebs,<br />

radgan cixeebidan ar gvesmis<br />

xalxis gaupatiurebis ambavi, es<br />

xelisufleba kargia, ase afasebs<br />

sazogadoeba. Tu mSieri<br />

vkvdebi, sulerTia CemTvis qu-<br />

CaSi xvreten xalxs Tu cixeSi<br />

aupatiureben, Tu mainc vnadgurdebiT.<br />

Tu erTi xelisufleba<br />

anadgurebs sxva xerxiT da meore<br />

sxviT, amas mniSvneloba ar<br />

aqvs, CemTvis orive cudia!<br />

- zemoT „gazpromi“ axseneT,<br />

Tqvenma partiam saeWvo xelSek-<br />

rulebad Seafasa...<br />

- rac Seexeba am kontraqts,<br />

pirdapir xels ver vadeb, radgan<br />

amis dasabuTeba ar Semi-<br />

Zlia, magram logikur doneze<br />

SemiZlia gamovTqva Cemi varaudi.<br />

Tu Sen aformeb raRac garigebas,<br />

ratom itoveb saidumlod?!<br />

arada, es garigeba tranzitzea,<br />

aq saidumlo ra unda<br />

iyos?! xalxs ratom unda daumalo,<br />

ra fuli Semodis am tranzitidan,<br />

ra aris aq dasamali?!<br />

mimalav imitom, rom Sen biujetSi<br />

Seitan 50 milions maSin,<br />

rodesac Cven gvekuTvnis naxevari<br />

miliardi. daaxloebiT es<br />

sqemaa. Tu yvelaferi gamWvirvalea,<br />

Tu arafers malav, Tu<br />

SenTvis sasargeblo garigebas<br />

ar deb, maSin Riad ityvi, - xalxo,<br />

ager davdeT xelSekruleba,<br />

aqedan unda miviRoT amdeni,<br />

amdeni Seva biujetSi da a.S. yvela<br />

iqneba wynarad da kmayofili.<br />

rodesac aseTi faruli<br />

garigebebi dgeba, miT umetes,<br />

„gazpromTan“ da meubnebi, rom<br />

ver getyvi, ra weria im xelSekrulebaSi<br />

imitom, rom saidumlod<br />

davtoveT es sabuTi, amaSi<br />

saidumloeba araferia, aq rom<br />

atomur bombs vamzadebde, gasagebia,<br />

magram tranzitzea laparaki.<br />

aseTi varaudi miCndeba,<br />

rom gvekuTvnis, magaliTad,<br />

tranzitidan Semosuli naxevari<br />

miliardi, Tanxobrivi iqneba Tu<br />

produqciis saxiT, xelSekrulebaa<br />

gaformebuli 50 milionze,<br />

300 milioni wava viRacis<br />

jibeSi, darCenili 150 milioni<br />

- ruseTis mxares darCeba imitom,<br />

rom am garigebaSi xeli Seuwyo<br />

Cvens xelisuflebas. aseTi<br />

STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom ase-<br />

Ti garigebaa. Tu vcdebi da ara<br />

marto me, unda gamovides xelisufleba<br />

da xalxs uTxras,<br />

rom xalxo, Tqven fantaziebSi<br />

xarT, araferi momxdara da punqtebad<br />

unda gaSalon sakiTxebi,<br />

rasTan gvaqvs saqme. kidev<br />

erTxel vimeoreb: safuZliani<br />

eWvi maqvs vifiqro, rom garigeba<br />

moxda! aseve vifiqreb „sokarTan“<br />

dadebul xelSkrulebaze.<br />

uamravi Tema arsebobs,<br />

razedac xelisufleba ver<br />

gcems pasuxs, es niSnavs imas,<br />

rom xelisuflebas ar aqvs komunikacia<br />

xalxTan. xalxis mxridan<br />

ndobis xarisxic ukve daeca<br />

zustad imitom, rom Zalian<br />

bevri ram rCeba inkognitod! es<br />

qveyana ar aris xelisuflebis<br />

da aris im xalxis, romelic am<br />

xelisuflebaSi cxovrobs da<br />

saxelmwifo valdebulia, rom<br />

xalxma icodes es informacia!<br />

saxelmwifo aris is xalxi, romelic<br />

cxovrobs arsebul teritoriaze,<br />

romelsac hqvia saqarTvelo!<br />

aqedan gamomdinare<br />

vambob, rom sanam ar Seicvleba<br />

saarCevno sistema, sadac ar<br />

miecema saSualeba romelime politikur<br />

Zalas, rom iyidos<br />

amomrCeveli, iyidos koordinatorebi<br />

da a. S., sanam ar Camoyalibdeba<br />

gamWvirvale urTier-<br />

Toba xalxsa da xelisuflebas<br />

Soris, manamde Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

yovelTvis viqnebiT aseT dRe-<br />

Si! sanam bankiri iqneba xelisuflebaSi,<br />

saqarTvelos araferi<br />

eSveleba!<br />

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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

Tumca, inauguraciidan sul<br />

cota xanSi, ukrainaSi moqmedi<br />

prorusuli saitebi waleka mixeil<br />

saakaSvilis fotoebma, sadac<br />

is vaSingtonSi, trampis inauguraciis<br />

dRes, TiTqosda, ma-<br />

Sin iyo gadaRebuli, roca ceremonials<br />

Robis miRma, buCqebSi<br />

mdgari, ramdenime moqalaqis garemocvaSi<br />

adevnebda Tvals.<br />

bunebrivia, rusuli mesijboqsi<br />

maSinve aitaces „ruseTTan<br />

daZmobilebulma” qarTulma vebgverdebma<br />

da, rasakvirvelia,<br />

saakaSvilze qilikze uari arc<br />

„feisbuqis” qarTvel momxmarebelTa<br />

im nawils uTqvams, romelic,<br />

rogorc wesi, msgavs<br />

Sanss xelidan ar uSvebs da,<br />

umeteswilad, maTi mxridan gaziarebebi<br />

da komentarebi TiTqmis<br />

maSinve Cndeba, roca „kompromatebi”,<br />

fotoebi da, sxva<br />

SemTxvevaSi, videoebi ukrainul<br />

portalebze qveyndeba xolme.<br />

„saakaSvili inauguracias<br />

Robis miRma adevnebda Tvals”;<br />

„mcvelebma saakaSvili inauguraciis<br />

farTobidan buCqebSi<br />

gaaZeves”;<br />

„saakaSvili namdvilad iyo<br />

trampis inauguraciaze, oRond,<br />

buCqebSi”, _ ai, im saTaurTa arasruli<br />

CamonaTvali, romlebzec<br />

rusuli Savi piaris ostatebi<br />

daixarjnen da moifiqres...<br />

SegaxsenebT, rom saakaSvilis<br />

vaSingtonSi, inauguraciaze miwvevis<br />

ambavi saqarTveloSi ma-<br />

Sin gaxda cnobili, roca enm-s<br />

yrilobamde ramdenime dRiT<br />

adre nika melia kievidan Camovida<br />

da ganacxada, rom mixeil<br />

saakaSvili vaSingtonSi gamgzavrebas<br />

apirebda, xolo misi kievSi<br />

Casvlis erT-erTi mizani<br />

isic iyo, rom teqnikuri detalebi<br />

ganexilaT, ra formiT CaerTveboda<br />

mixeil saakaSvili<br />

enm-s yrilobis delegatebisadmi<br />

mimarTvis dros.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, ukrainuli internetgamocemebi<br />

maSin aqtiurad<br />

werdnen imazec, rom ukrainis<br />

prezidenti petro poro-<br />

Senko inauguraciaze ar mii-<br />

donald trampis inauguraciis<br />

laSa berulava<br />

detalebis ganxilvisas yvela sx-<br />

577 20 86 13<br />

vadasxva rames ganixilavda, imisda<br />

mixedviT, Tu vis ra ainteresebda:<br />

zogi trampis gzavnilebma SeaSfoTa, zogi melania trampis<br />

Cacmulobis detalebs akvirdeboda, zogic _ ivanka tram-<br />

pis qcevas inauguraciis dros, romelic xan mowyenili iyo da<br />

xan Tavis disSvils eTamaSeboda.<br />

12<br />

wvies, Tumca prezidentis administraciam<br />

ganmarta, rom inauguraciaze<br />

ar iwveven qveynebis<br />

meTaurebs da iq mxolod diplomatiuri<br />

misia, aseve, qveynis<br />

yofili xelmZRvanelobaa wardgenili.<br />

mixeil saakaSvili aSS-Si miwveuli<br />

rom iqneboda, wesiT, es<br />

gasakviri arc unda yofiliyo _<br />

mas trampTan piradi nacnobobac<br />

akavSirebs da amis garda,<br />

trampTan daaxloebul pirebsac<br />

icnobs. mosawvevis gagzavna<br />

kongresmenebsac SeeZloT da<br />

Zneli dasajerebeli araferia,<br />

Tuki saqarTvelos mesame prezidents<br />

vaSingtonSi gavleniani<br />

nacnobi aRmoaCndeboda, vinc<br />

mosawvevs gaugzavnida.<br />

vin, vin da mixeil saakaSvili<br />

rom buCqebidan adevnebda<br />

Tvals trampis inauguracias,<br />

iseTive sasacilo Temaa, rogoric<br />

is, ruseTis motrfiale<br />

qarTvelebi rom iZaxdnen obamasaakaSvilis<br />

Sexvedris dros, _<br />

derefanSi udarajebda barak<br />

obamas, gadaeyara, mieWra, imanac<br />

xeli CamoarTva, foto gadauRes<br />

da atvirTeso.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, mis winaaRmdeg<br />

agorebul rusul Sav piars mixeil<br />

saakaSvili TviTonve gamoexmaura<br />

da feisbuqis sakuTar<br />

gverdze atvirTa misi „mamxilebeli”<br />

fotoebi, ganmartebis saxiT<br />

ki moayola:<br />

„Cven araerTxel SevTavazeT<br />

ukrainul telearxebs gaeSuqemixeil<br />

saakaSvili:<br />

`SeeSvan Cem<br />

devnas xan<br />

aeroportebSi<br />

da xan<br />

tualetebSi,<br />

ukrainaze<br />

ifiqron~<br />

binaT Cemi yofna trampis inauguraciaze,<br />

magram maT es ar undodaT.<br />

samagierod, maTi nawili<br />

erToblivad axdens rusuli<br />

kavSirebis mqone pirebis mier<br />

gadaRebuli fotoebis tira-<br />

Jirebas, sadac me inauguraciidan<br />

ukve gamosuli, jgufis<br />

sxva wevrebs velodebi. ugunurebi<br />

ugunurebad rCebian da maT-<br />

Tvis arafris damtkicebas ar<br />

vapireb. bolo ramdenime kviris<br />

ganmavlobaSi kontaqti mqonda<br />

trampis gundTan, saidanac<br />

bevrs piradad vicnob da vapireb,<br />

aqtiurad viTanamSromlo<br />

ukrainis megobrebTan am<br />

administraciaSi, imis miuxedavad,<br />

Tu ra Worebs gaavrceleben<br />

Cveni mtrebi.<br />

xan aeroportSi farulad<br />

gadamiReben xolme, xan ceremoniidan<br />

gamosuls da mere uamrav<br />

Wors akereben amas. es yvelaferi<br />

mxolod imas mianiSnebs,<br />

rom swor gzaze varT da mtrebs<br />

Cveni eSiniaT.<br />

maT SeuZliaT, gaagrZelon<br />

Savi piaris agoreba, Cven ki<br />

Cvens saqmes gavakeTebT Cvens<br />

yvela megobarTan erTad, raTa<br />

ukrainis saerTaSoriso poziciebi<br />

gavaZlieroT.<br />

ukeTesi iqneboda, isini TavianT<br />

Zalisxmevas swored ukrainis<br />

poziciebis gasaZliereblad<br />

xarjavdnen da ara imisTvis,<br />

rom aeroportebsa Tu<br />

tualetebSi kudSi mdion.<br />

me ar mWirdeba Cemi piradi<br />

saerTaSoriso megobruli kav-<br />

SirebiT spekulireba imisTvis,<br />

rom Cveni moqalaqeebis keTilganwyoba<br />

movipovo. Cemi brZolis<br />

veli ukraina da ukrainuli<br />

politikaa, saidanac unda mova-<br />

SoroT mas mitmasnili „barigebi”,<br />

_ aRniSna saakaSvilma.<br />

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mokled, „nacebis” SesaWmelad<br />

momzadebuli kovzi bi-<br />

Zinas im nacarSi Cauvarda,<br />

romelsac am bolo wlebSi uxvad<br />

iyridnen Tavze swored „nacebi”.<br />

da ra miiRo? „nacebis”<br />

mier Tavze nacris yra dasrulda.<br />

is nawili, romelic bodiSebis<br />

xdiT iyo dakavebuli, anu<br />

figuralurad rom vTqvaT,<br />

Tavze nacars iyrida, partiidan<br />

wasulia da axla ukve romc<br />

gaagrZelon bodiSebis xda, es<br />

„nacebis” mier Tavze nacris<br />

yrad veRar CaiTvleba. is didi<br />

nawili ki, romelic darCa, da<br />

romelsac 20 ianvars yriloba<br />

hqonda, naklebad iyo dakavebuli<br />

am saqmianobiT. anu mokled,<br />

kovzis nacarSi CavardniT, „nacebSi”<br />

nacris xana damTavrda.<br />

ra daiwyeba da rogor gagr-<br />

Zeldeba, amas yvela erTad vnaxavT.<br />

mTavaria, axla ukve qveyanaSi<br />

dasruldes nacris xana _<br />

anu amomrCevlisTvis TvalebSi<br />

nacris Seyris periodi. albaT,<br />

swored am xanis moaxloebis<br />

eSinoda im brZen kacs da amitom<br />

cdilobda ase gaSmagebiT _<br />

mTavari safrTxis, saxelad<br />

saakaSvilis ganeitralebas. albaT,<br />

amas grZnoben „qocebi” da<br />

amitomac axarebT mciredic ki,<br />

magaliTad is, rom „nacmoZraobis”<br />

politsabWos arCevis Semdeg,<br />

partiis mxardamWerTa<br />

mxridan, gamoiTqva gulis tkivili<br />

da daisva kiTxvebi, Tu ratom<br />

ver moxvda politsabWoSi<br />

megi gociriZe, maia orjonikiZe?<br />

mxardamWerTa Tu aqtivistTa<br />

nawili sxvebsac asaxelebda.<br />

„qocebisa” Tu „nacmoZraobidan”<br />

wasulTa mxridan qirqil-qiliki<br />

da metic, sixaruli,<br />

sruliad, uadgiloa. Tu oponentebma<br />

sxva veraferi monaxes<br />

gasaxar-gasarTob-saqiliko, es<br />

sworedac unda uxarodes „nacmoZraobas”<br />

da me Tu mkiTxavT,<br />

aseve sruliad uadgiloa „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” rigi<br />

mxardamWerebisa da aqtivistebis<br />

metismeti gawiwmateba, rogor<br />

Tu vinmem gabeda da es iki-<br />

Txa, an survili gamoxata, politsabWoSi<br />

exila megi gociriZe<br />

da maia orjonikiZe.<br />

mokled, ra moxda? mxardam-<br />

WerTa nawili umadurobad miiCnevs<br />

megi gociriZis politsab-<br />

WoSi arSeyvanas, meore nawili<br />

ki wiwmatobs, Tu rogor bedaven<br />

am sakiTxis win wamowevas da<br />

„qocebis” gulis gaxarebas. daviwyoT<br />

imiT, rom „qocebma” guli<br />

ukve gaixares imiT, rom maTi<br />

„naTlia”, megi gociriZe, Tama-<br />

Sgare mdgomareobaSi ixiles da<br />

amis metad veranairad ver gaaxarebs<br />

maT vinmes mier legitimurad<br />

dasmuli kiTxva. es ise,<br />

xilad da desertad. realurad<br />

ki saqme gvaqvs bevrad ufro<br />

principul sakiTxTan. mxardam-<br />

WerTa nawili Wkuas aswavlis<br />

mxardamWerTa nawils. anu ras<br />

aswavlis, rogor dauWiros mxari?<br />

sadaa azris gamoxatvis<br />

ufleba? ras moutans ganaxlebul<br />

„nacmoZraobas” misive mx-<br />

rezo SatakiSvili<br />

biZinas kovzi nacarSi Cauvarda. vera da ver moaxerxa mix-<br />

eil saakaSvilis „nacmoZraobidan” distancireba. aswlovan da<br />

as „metrian” maRal xeebs aqeT-iqiT daatarebs, sakuTar ezoSi<br />

miaqanebs, magram ver iqna da ver gadga „maRali” da Ripiani<br />

miSa mis mierve daarsebuli partiidan.<br />

ardamWerebis SezRudva, azri<br />

gamoxaton partiaSi mimdinare<br />

procesebze Riad da sajarod?<br />

isev da isev, mxardamWerTa nawilis<br />

gaucxoebas gamoiwvevs maT<br />

mier mxardaWeril ZalasTan.<br />

misgan distancirebas, masze gulis<br />

acruebas. miviRebT isev im<br />

Caketil wres, romelsac sul<br />

cota xnis win es yvela mxardam-<br />

Weri erTad ebrZoda.<br />

ra iyo argumentebi? „ase wera<br />

ar SeiZleba”, „araa saWiro”,<br />

„SigniT gaarkvieT”, „yvela ver<br />

moxvdeba politsabWoSi”, „megi<br />

isedac ibrZolebs” da a. S.<br />

mivyveT am ukbilo argumentebs:<br />

ras hqvia, „ar SeiZleba” da<br />

„araa saWiro”, an „SigniT gaarkvieT”?<br />

da ratom sazRvravs amas<br />

an mxardamWerTa nawili, an partaqtivi,<br />

ras miiCnevs saWirod<br />

mxardamWerTa jgufi? igive am<br />

bolo Tveebis ganmavlobaSi, ra,<br />

cota iyo SemTxveva, rodesac<br />

mxardamWerTa mcire nawili<br />

mwvaved svamda kiTxvebs da swored<br />

mxardamWerTa umravlesoba,<br />

lamis, ukuRma svamda virze<br />

maT amis gamo da rogorc Semdeg<br />

aRmoCda, swored is mcire<br />

nawili iyo marTali da mere<br />

ukve yvelam irwmuna da alaparakda.<br />

alaparakda ki ara, Tu is<br />

mcire nawili kritikis format-<br />

Si moqmedebda, umravlesoba<br />

ukve lanZRvis formatSi gadavida<br />

da gadauswro im pirvel<br />

kritikul mercxlebs. axla vin<br />

icis, vinaa marTali? an ras<br />

hqvia, mxardamWeri SezRudo<br />

partiuli koniunqturiT da<br />

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ukiJino, SigniT gaarkvie? ra<br />

gaarkvios partiis rigiTma amomrCevelma,<br />

gare mxardamWerma<br />

SigniT, roca SigniT araa? rogor<br />

warmogidgeniaT, partiis<br />

naxevarmilionianma eleqtoratma<br />

partiis SigniT scados<br />

sakiTxebis Sinaurulad garkveva?<br />

partiis wevrebma, partiis<br />

aqtivma, diaxac, jer partiaSi<br />

unda gamoxaton pozicia, moiTxovon<br />

pasuxi da Tu sxva gza ar<br />

darCebaT, mere gaxadon procesi<br />

sajaro, magram igive moTxovna<br />

mxardamWerisgan ramdenad<br />

normaluria? swored es xom ar<br />

daazianebs partias, mxardamWerebs<br />

daakargvinebs da ara ki-<br />

Txvebis sajarod dasma? Tundac<br />

amiT vinme xarobdes?<br />

amomrCevels, gare mxardamWers<br />

unda hqondes ufleba azris<br />

sajarod gamoxatvisac da<br />

kritikuli kiTxvebis dasmisac<br />

da mas ar unda uwevdes yovliswamlekavi<br />

ieriSebis mogerieba<br />

am kiTxvis dasmisas Tu<br />

azris gamoxatvisas. elementarulad,<br />

partiaze jvari dawerili<br />

aravis aqvs, guls aicruebs,<br />

moswyindeba am lanZRva-TaTxvis<br />

gadatana da distancirdeba<br />

partiisgan. partia maTi saxiT<br />

dakargavs mxardamWers, amomrCevels<br />

da ukacravad, isini<br />

aanazRaureben am danakliss,<br />

vinc dRes feisbukze xaSlamasaviT<br />

aqeT-iqiT daatarebs<br />

Wkuas? orjer miscemen xmas es<br />

yovlismcodne subieqtebi?<br />

Tan rac yvelaze saintereso<br />

iyo, swored maTsave argumentebSi<br />

SeiniSneboda partiis damazianebeli<br />

elementebi da metic<br />

_ iribad Seuracxmyofeli<br />

gancxadebebi partiis politsabWoSi<br />

arCeulTa mimarT. Tundac<br />

igive frazaSi: „megi isedac<br />

ibrZolebs”. amiT ra gamoiyvanes,<br />

vinc politsabWoSi air-<br />

Cies, ise ar ibrZolebdnen, Tu<br />

am sabWoSi ar Seiyvandnen? an<br />

vis ras sZens fraza: „yvela ver<br />

moxvdeba politsabWoSi”? megi<br />

gociriZe an maia orjonikiZe<br />

yvelaa? davdgeT axla da „mamluqSi”<br />

romaa _ damsaxurebebs<br />

rom Tvlian da xalxi pasuxobs:<br />

„mahmudi” „mahmudi” _ eg movawyoT?<br />

sxva yvelafers rom Tavi<br />

davaneboT, sad iyo is yvela,<br />

rodesac pirdapir eTerebSi<br />

swored maia orjonikiZe da megi<br />

gociriZe upirispirdebodnen<br />

oponentebs mwvaved, sakuTar<br />

Tavze iRebdnen maT lanZRvaginebas?<br />

miT umetes maSin, roca<br />

nacris xanis<br />

dasasruli<br />

liderSips „galobani sinanulisani”<br />

sWirda?<br />

iyo argumentic, rom politsabWo<br />

araa ase mniSvnelovani.<br />

arada, swored bolodroindelma<br />

movlenebma cxadyo, rom, kritikul<br />

momentSi, sworedac rom<br />

mniSvnelovania, swored politsabWoze<br />

gadawyda, ra formatiT<br />

unda Catarebuliyo yriloba.<br />

am ambavze ase vrclad imitom<br />

SevCerdi, rom es swored is<br />

SemTxvevaa, romlidanac kargad<br />

Cans, raa saWiro, Tu „nacmoZraobas”<br />

marTlac surs gadavides<br />

ganviTarebis axal etapze. winaaRmdeg<br />

SemTxvevaSi, is kvlav<br />

daubrundeba im mdgomareobas,<br />

ra mdgomareobaSic iyo<br />

arCevnebis winare periodSi.<br />

liderSipmac, partaqtivmac<br />

da mxardamWerebmac unda gaisigrZeganon,<br />

rom mxardamWeri sxvaa<br />

da aqtivisti _ sxva. rom<br />

mxardamWeri Tu SeniSvnas gamo-<br />

Tqvams, piriqiT, madloba unda<br />

uTxra mas, moismino azri, gaiziaro,<br />

an ar gaiziaro. da Tu<br />

ar iziareb, auxsna. ar iqneba es<br />

komunikacia masTan? igi distancirdeba.<br />

da metic, Tu Tavpirs<br />

daalewav kiTxvis dasmis, SeniSvnis,<br />

azris gamoTqmis gamo, Tu<br />

mtrad ar mogekideba, wava da<br />

gagecleba, ar irwmunebs, rom<br />

Sen rame saerTo gaqvs demokratiasTan.<br />

unda moismino da aitano<br />

gansxvavebuli azri. Seni<br />

mxardamWeri ar niSnavs imas,<br />

rom askiliviT Tavi giqnios<br />

yvelaferze da Tu konkretuli<br />

mxardamWeri ar „askilobs”, Sen<br />

viRac yvelaferze Tavkantura<br />

askili eklebiT ar unda gamoudge<br />

mas.<br />

partiis liderSipi ar Car-<br />

Tula am „aRmosavlur orTabrZolebSi”,<br />

es calsaxad pozitiuria,<br />

magram imave liderSips<br />

mouwevs, sworedac rom akontrolos<br />

sakuTari wevrebi, rom<br />

maT xalxs ar mosTxovon igive,<br />

rac maT, rogorc partiis wevrebs,<br />

moeTxovebaT _ partiuli<br />

koniunqturis gaTvaliswineba.<br />

yvelam erTad unda gaisigrZeganos<br />

kritikis aucilebloba<br />

da rac mTavaria, mravalferovneba,<br />

mravalgvaroba. erTia<br />

mxardamWeris mier gamoTqmuli<br />

kritikuli mosazreba, meorea<br />

oponentisa da mesame _ mtris<br />

mier warmoebuli kritika. Tu<br />

yvelas, vinc ki Semogbedavs gakritikebas,<br />

miatristanwiTelaSvileb<br />

da mterTan moisvri erT<br />

tafaSi mosaxrakad, am gziT Tavadve<br />

SeaTxeleb Sens banaks.<br />

veRar moismen jansaR kritikas<br />

da moswydebi realobas, ambicia<br />

RrublebSi agitacebs da mere<br />

ise dagazRnerTebs miwaze, welsac<br />

veRar aiTrev da es wela-<br />

Treuli biZinas daamarcxeb ki<br />

ara, mis pingvinsac ver gamoudgebi,<br />

romc gamoudge, gagaswrebs,<br />

ver daiWer da frTamal<br />

pingvinad mogeCveneba.<br />

ai, es ki namdvilad gaaxarebs<br />

„qocebs” da gauxangrZlivebs<br />

maT netaryuCobas. Torem, ra<br />

naxes gasaxari imaSi, rom raRac<br />

nawilma ramdenime marTlac damsaxurebuli<br />

personis ararCeva<br />

gaaprotesta sabWoSi? rom<br />

gekiTxaT, es xalxi jogi iyo da<br />

Tu jogia, ratom ar dauqnies<br />

amaze Tavi „belads”?<br />

vinc ra ar unda iwiwmatos,<br />

es swored is eleqtoratia, romelic<br />

arc am ganaxlebul Semadgenlobas<br />

moasvenebs da Tu<br />

is simptomebi, rac rigi mxardamWerebisa<br />

Tu aqtivistebis bolo<br />

dReebis qmedebebSi gamoikveTa,<br />

TviTon liderebis donezec<br />

gamovlindeba, es liderSipic<br />

wina liderSipis beds gaiziarebs.<br />

amomrCeveli irCevs politikur<br />

Zalas da ara piriqiT.<br />

liderebi garemocvas irCeven<br />

da ara amomrCevels. amomrCeveli<br />

ki erTad afasebs lidersac<br />

da mis garemocvasac. SesaZloa,<br />

wlobiTac ki wauyruos da yuradReba<br />

ar miaqcios lideris<br />

garemocvas, magram erT dRes....<br />

da rac mTavaria, axla mainc<br />

dadga dro, wasulebic da dar-<br />

Cenilebic, Tu daSordnen, bolomde<br />

daSordnen da mixedon<br />

mTavars, Torem nametani grZeli<br />

ardadegebi gamouvida baton<br />

biZinas.<br />

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SesaZleblobebi saerTo saqmes,<br />

Cvens mTavar ideas, qarTuli<br />

saxelmwifoebriobis ganmtkicebas,<br />

ivaniSvilis reJimis damarcxebas<br />

moxmardes”, _ aRniSna<br />

Ciora TaqTaqiSvilma.<br />

rac Seexeba isev yrilobas,<br />

darbazsa da ganwyobas, 20 ianvars<br />

bevri saintereso da daskvnis<br />

gasakeTeblad gamosadegi<br />

faqtis SemCnevac SeiZleboda.<br />

albaT, yvelaze mTavari da<br />

enm-Si darCenili liderSipisTvis,<br />

pirvel rigSi, saintereso<br />

is iyo, rom delegatebsa<br />

da mowveul stumrebs Soris<br />

imediani ganwyoba SeiniSneboda.<br />

„qronika+” saqarTvelos sxvadasxva<br />

regionidan Camosul<br />

delegatebsa da stumrebs esaubra<br />

da stumrebs Soris iseTebic<br />

ipova, romlebic sagangebod<br />

yrilobaze dasaswrebad<br />

Camofrindnen sxvadasxva qveynidan.<br />

maTi azri partiis ganaxlebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT calsaxa<br />

iyo _ TiTqmis yvela ambobda,<br />

rom ganaxleba da maTi Camocileba,<br />

vinc viwro wreSi iRebda<br />

gadawyvetilebebs, jer kidev,<br />

didi xnis win iyo saWiro:<br />

„ar vici, Tqven rogor uyurebT<br />

am sakiTxs, magram me rasac<br />

vxedav isaa, rasac Cemi uamravi<br />

nacnobi meubneba, isini,<br />

romlebic arasdros uWerdnen<br />

mxars enm-s. isini amboben, rom<br />

vis gamoc ver itandnen saakaSvilis<br />

mmarTvelobis wlebs, enm<br />

TiTqmis yvelam datova. axla<br />

ar Sevudgebi im personebis CamoTvlas,<br />

mimaCnia, rom es urTierTbraldebebi<br />

unda morCes<br />

da gamijnulebma TavianTi<br />

gziT unda iaron, Cven _ Cveni<br />

gziT”, _ Tqva aSS-dan Camosulma<br />

erT-erTma mowveulma stumarma.<br />

„Zalian vwuxvar, rom samegrelo<br />

da kerZod, zugdidi am<br />

procesebSi arcTu kargad warmoCinda<br />

Cveni sami warmomadgenlis<br />

mxridan. isRa damrCenia<br />

vTqva, rom mxolod es sami adamiani<br />

ar aris enm-s zugdidis<br />

organizaciis saxe da amaze isic<br />

metyvelebs, rom maT, TiTqmis,<br />

aravin gahyolia Tan. saqar-<br />

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yrilobaze waradgines, rogorc<br />

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erT-erTi sulisCamdgmeli”.<br />

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iyo:<br />

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damarcxebaze uars acxadeben<br />

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gunds: „Cven amas<br />

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_ emijnebiT „nacionalur<br />

moZraobas?” Cemi pasuxi iyo:<br />

„ara”. rasac mosdevda kiTxva: „ma-<br />

Sin, ratom ar xarT partiaSi?”<br />

yovelTvis vambobdi, rom partia<br />

saWiroebs Sinagan reformas, debiurokratizacias,<br />

rom saWiroa,<br />

partia gaxdes ufro horizontaluri,<br />

ufro gamWvirvale da ar<br />

marTavdes viwro jgufi. iyos meti<br />

CarTuloba, meti kavSiri xalxTan.<br />

am problemebze vsaubrobdi, ubralod,<br />

personaliebze ar vsaubrobdi.<br />

personaliebze axlac ar<br />

vsaubrob da arc visaubreb, radgan<br />

mTavaria, principebi. Tu partias<br />

gamarjveba surs, unda iyos<br />

maqsimalurad Ria, gaxsnili, axali<br />

ideebisTvis, axali xalxisTvis.<br />

„nacionaluri moZraoba” unda<br />

gaxdes partia, romelic moZraobs.<br />

daWaobebuli ki araa, moZraobs,<br />

viTardeba, win midis, iRebs axal<br />

ideebs, aris TviTkritikuli, ar<br />

aris qedmaRluri. partias hqvia<br />

„erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />

da bolo wlebSi is aRarc erTiani<br />

iyo da aRarc moZraobda.<br />

_ jer es liderSips ar exeba,<br />

magram ukve gamoikveTa mavne ten-<br />

dencia. politsabWos dakompleqtebis<br />

Semdeg mxardamWerTa naw-<br />

ilma dasva kiTxva, Tu ratom ver<br />

Ti swori gzaa, rac yovelgvari<br />

problemis mogvarebas uwyobs<br />

xels. sxvanairad ar gamova. yvela<br />

kiTxvis dasmis ufleba aqvs yvelas,<br />

miT umetes, mxardamWers da<br />

Cven valdebuleba gvaqvs, am kiTxvebze<br />

pasuxi gavceT. politsabWo<br />

araa partiasTan urTierTobis er-<br />

TaderTi formati. politsabWos<br />

wevroba aucilebeli ar aris, isedac<br />

movusmenT yvelas. Cemi azriT,<br />

mosafiqrebelia amomrCevelTan,<br />

sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis<br />

kidev bevri formati. politsab-<br />

WosTan Seiqmneba sazogadoebrivi,<br />

saTaTbiro sabWo, sadac raodenobrivi<br />

SezRudva ar iqneba da yvelas<br />

SeeZleba monawileoba. uqmdeba<br />

samdivnoebi da maT nacvlad<br />

Seiqmneba mimarTulebebi. samdivnoebi<br />

dawyobil da xangrZlivi<br />

demokratiis qveynebSi SeiZleba,<br />

efeqtianicaa, magram CvenTan biurokratiul<br />

saxes iRebs da xdeba<br />

Caketili organizmi, garesamyaros<br />

wydeba. Seiqmneba mimarTulebebi<br />

da es mimarTulebebi imuSaveben<br />

sazogadoebis sxvadasxva<br />

jgufTan. partiis programa SemuSavdeba<br />

swored am mimdinareobebis<br />

muSaobis Sedegad _ xalxis<br />

azrisa da moTxovnebis gaTvaliswinebiT.<br />

amomrCevelTan urTier-<br />

Tobas vapirebT bevrad ufro mWirod,<br />

vidre odesme yofila. „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” ar SeiZleba<br />

warmarTon biurokratebma, is<br />

unda warmarTon politikosebma,<br />

romelTac mudmivad aqvT xeli<br />

pulsze da ician, ra awuxebs<br />

xalxs, raa mosagvarebeli. araformaluri<br />

mmarTvelobis garda,<br />

am qveyanas uamravi problema aqvs,<br />

romlis mogvareba axlave, am xelisuflebis<br />

pirobebSivea Sesa-<br />

Zlebeli, igive sacobebis problema,<br />

romelic mTel qalaqs, saqar-<br />

Tvelos awuxebs. Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />

problemaa sawyisi ganaTlebis<br />

sruli uvargisoba. sajaro<br />

skolebi aris katastroful mdgomareobaSi.<br />

aqedanve, am pirobeb-<br />

Sive unda vizrunoT am problemaze,<br />

yovel SemTxvevaSi, identifikacia<br />

mainc movaxdinoT problemebis.<br />

Zalian didi problemaa<br />

energousafrTxoebis sivrceSi.<br />

ivaniSvilis dakveTiT, „gazpromTan”<br />

gaformda sruliad kabaluri<br />

xelSekruleba, romelic gaaZvirebs<br />

gazs da kidev ufro daum-<br />

Zimebs situacias Cvens moqalaqeebs.<br />

rac mTavaria, ruseTs zewolis<br />

axal berkets mianiWebs, romelic<br />

Zlivs CamovarTviT. wina xelSekruleba<br />

bevrad kargi iyo,<br />

Cvens teritoriaze rusuli gazis<br />

gatarebiT viRebdiT gazs, axla<br />

aviRebT fuls da am fuliT naklebi<br />

gazi mogviva, rac avtomaturad<br />

niSnavs imas, rom gazi gaZvirdeba,<br />

an unda moxdes isev subsidireba<br />

centraluri biujetidan<br />

da es fuli isev sxva sferoebs<br />

moakldeba. sabolod, gairkva,<br />

rasac vambobdiT, sayovelTao<br />

dazRveva ar aRmoCnda sicocxlisunariani,<br />

sergeenkom ukve Riad<br />

gamoacxada, rom rig klinikebSi<br />

aRar gavrceldeba sayovelTao<br />

dazRveva, radgan es klinikebi Sem-<br />

Cneuli arian korufciuli sqemebis<br />

gamoyenebaSi. es iyo moufiqreblad<br />

gakeTebuli populisturi<br />

programa, araTu CvenTvis, Zalian<br />

mdidari qveynebisTvisac ki Zalian<br />

Zviri programa da imTaviTve cxadi<br />

iyo, rom am programas xelisufleba<br />

didxans ver SeinarCunebda.<br />

uamravi problemaa, romelze<br />

muSaobac axlavea dasawyebi.<br />

_ yrilobas da politsabWos<br />

arCevis wess rom davubrundeT,<br />

kritikuli SeniSvnebi gamoiTqva<br />

politsabWos arCevis wesTan dak-<br />

avSirebiT. erTi mxriv, gasagebia,<br />

rom aseT mokle droSi SeuZlebeli<br />

iyo arCevis axali wesis Se-<br />

muSaveba da danergva, magram sain-<br />

teresoa sxva ram: axla, am piro-<br />

bebSi, roca partiaSi darCenili<br />

iyaviT Tanamoazreebi, am wesiT<br />

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dakompleqteba moxerxda, magram<br />

is jgufi rom ar gasuliyo<br />

partiidan, im SemTxvevaSi, ranair-<br />

adRa moxdeboda dakompleqteba,<br />

kvotebs gaiyofdiT?<br />

_ ver getyviT, maSin rogor<br />

moxdeboda, Znelia axla es Tqva...<br />

Cven principi aviReT aseTi, politsabWoSi<br />

Seyvanili iqnen is kandidatebi,<br />

romlebmac arCevnebze<br />

saukeTeso Sedegi aCvenes, aseve is<br />

xalxi, vinc kompetenturi wvlili<br />

Seitana am uTanasworo brZolaSi<br />

da visac aqvs politikuri saqmianobis<br />

gamocdileba. aseve regionuli<br />

organiziaciebi konferenciebiT<br />

airCeven TavianT warmomadgenlebs.<br />

aseve sabWoSi Sevida mxardamWerTa<br />

garkveuli raodenoba,<br />

romelmac konkretuli wvlili<br />

Seitana am procesSi.<br />

_ swored agan gaaCnina azrTa<br />

sxvadasxvaoba, Tu maTi wvlili wv-<br />

lili iyo, imaTi ar iyo? da a. S.<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, magram wyenis<br />

dro ar aris, aravis aravisi Rvawli<br />

ar gvaviwydeba, yvelas saerTo<br />

mizani unda gvamoZravebdes da<br />

yvelas erTi ram unda gvaerTianebdes,<br />

Cveni bedis Cvens xelSi<br />

aReba, Cveni qveynis myar poziciebze<br />

dabruneba. saqarTvelo gaqra<br />

saerTaSoriso rukidan, saqarTveloSi<br />

sufevs sruli socialuri<br />

anarqia, Zalian gaucxoebulia<br />

xalxi erTmaneTisgan, danaSaulma<br />

isev imata, dRe ar gadis, banki ar<br />

daayaCaRon, ar gaZarcvon da rame<br />

tragikuli SemTxveva ar moxdes,<br />

amas yvela win unda aRvudgeT. Tu<br />

davirazmebiT, ukeTesad cxovreba<br />

SegviZlia. Cven SegviZlia, bevrad<br />

kompetenturi xelisufleba<br />

gvyavdes da im xelisuflebisa da<br />

xalxis TanamSromlobiT bevrad<br />

gavaumjobesoT Cveni yoveldRiuri<br />

bednierebis xarisxi. patara<br />

qveyana varT, saqarTvelo ar aris<br />

ruseTi, an CineTi, rom misi reformireba<br />

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Tu gaviTvaliswinebT qarTuli<br />

niWis unikalurobas. Cven es<br />

davamtkiceT, saqarTvelos hyavs<br />

msoflio donis varskvlavebi Ti-<br />

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sazRvargareT gaedineba, radgan<br />

aq ar aqvs asparezi. axalgazrdobis<br />

did nawils erTi suli aqvs,<br />

saqarTvelodan ucxoeTSi gadabargdes,<br />

rom iq ipovos asparezi,<br />

esaa tragedia. mTeli msofliodan<br />

Seikribnen ebraelebi, Cavidnen istoriul<br />

samSobloSi da, faqtobrivad,<br />

udabnoSi daaarses saxelmwifo,<br />

romelic dRes erT-erTi<br />

warmatebuli qveyanaa, Cven aseTi<br />

qveyana SegvinarCunes winaprebma<br />

da ra ufleba gvaqvs, dRes is<br />

qarTvelebisgan davcaloT? ra<br />

ufleba gvaqvs, SevqmnaT iseTi<br />

mavnebluri, gaveranebuli da ga-<br />

Canagebuli garemo, saidanac axalgazrdebi<br />

garbian? piriqiT, demokratiuli<br />

saqarTvelos Senebas<br />

unda mivuZRvnaT es Zalian didi<br />

niWi, romelic am erSi aris, magram<br />

am niWs sWirdeba asparezi, wvrTna.<br />

niWi TavisTavad ar iZleva rezultatebs,<br />

Tu disciplina ar axlavs.<br />

es disciplina unda movigonoT<br />

Cveni TavisTvis da msoflios<br />

is saswauli vaCvenoT, romelic<br />

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saqarTvelo aucileblad iqneba<br />

warmatebuli qveyana, Tu qarTuli<br />

niWi swori mimarTulebiT warimarTeba.<br />

Tu sawyisi ganaTleba<br />

gveqneba kargi, Tu erTmaneTs ki<br />

ar davWamT, aramed gadavalT<br />

Tematur debatebze, kamaTze, kamaTi<br />

kargia, magram ara principiT<br />

_ yvelaferi an araferi, unda viswavloT<br />

kompromisis xelovneba,<br />

unda viswavloT samoqalaqo solidaroba.<br />

yvelani unda aRvudgeT<br />

win qveynis daqucmacebas okupantis<br />

mier. yvelam unda igrZnos, rom<br />

maszea damokidebuli qveynis bedi,<br />

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sadRac ucxo qveynebSi, kabineteb-<br />

Si. motivacia Tu gaizrdeba, Cven<br />

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saqarTvelo funqcionirebad<br />

saxelmwifod iqca, ratom?<br />

imitom, rom xalxi mobilizda da<br />

Camoyalibda sistema, gatarda reformebi,<br />

romelic samagaliToa<br />

ara marto ukrainisTvis, moldovisTvis,<br />

an danarCeni postsabWo-<br />

Ta sivrcisTvis, aramed uamravi<br />

sxva qveynisTvis. Cveni kabinetis<br />

warmomadgenlebi, rogorc reformebis<br />

mrCevlebi, muSaoben afrikis,<br />

aziis, samxreT amerikis<br />

qveynebSi. Zalian warmatebuli modeli<br />

gvqonda reformebisa da<br />

amiT mxolod vamayob, rogorc<br />

nawili am procesebis, magram es ar<br />

iyo sakmarisi. gakeTda Zalian bevri,<br />

magram win kidev metia gasakeTebeli.<br />

unda vkoncentrirdeT<br />

momavalze da momavali unda mivceT<br />

qarTul niWs, qarTul energias,<br />

saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />

potenciurad yvelaze ufro mniSvnelovan<br />

nawils, mis axalgazrdobas,<br />

romelic dRes frustrirebulia,<br />

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unda, rac sruliad dauSvebelia.<br />

es gamoiwvia dRevandelma mmarTvelobam,<br />

es gamoiwvia im nihilizmma,<br />

romelic am wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

mizanmimarTulad iTeseboda<br />

xalxSi. es gamoiwvia rusulma<br />

propagandam, romelic gvarwmunebs,<br />

rom Cven araferi ar Segvi-<br />

Zlia, rom yovelTvis viRacaze<br />

Camokidebuli eri unda viyoT. es<br />

gamoiwvia ivaniSvilis ritorikam,<br />

rom saqarTvelo patara orRobea,<br />

patara sofelia da Cven did moTamaSeebs<br />

fexebSi ar unda gaveblandoT;<br />

es yvelaferi mavnebluri<br />

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droze unda gavTavisufldeT.<br />

_ batono nika, damTavrdeba<br />

Tu ara is ritorika, romelsac<br />

„nacionaluri moZraoba” mimar-<br />

Tavda bolo 4 wlis manZilze,<br />

vgulisxmob dausrulebel bo-<br />

diSebis xdas, e. w. Tavze nacris<br />

yras.<br />

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miRebaSi cudi araferia, saWiro<br />

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marTla nacris yra uimedo saqme<br />

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rodesac bodiSi<br />

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akompleqsebs Sensave mxardamWersac<br />

da eWvis baqteria<br />

Seaqvs jansaR sxeulSi. Tu saqmis<br />

keTeba da situaciis gaumjobeseba<br />

gvinda, veranairi bodiSi da<br />

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ver giSvelis, unda veZeboT problemebis<br />

mogvarebis gzebi, unda<br />

gaviazroT gaSvebuli SesaZleblobebi,<br />

rac unda gagvekeTebina<br />

da ver gavakeTeT. Tu Secdomebi<br />

iyo, im Secdomebis mizezebze<br />

vilaparakoT.<br />

_ me mgoni, ukve droa, „nacmoZraobam”<br />

9 wlis manZilze daSvebuli<br />

Secdomebi ki ara, is Sec-<br />

domebi gaaanalozos, rac bolo<br />

4 wlis manZilze dauSva.<br />

_ ra Tqma unda da dro movida,<br />

vilaparakoT momavalze, es TviTgvema<br />

aris ivaniSvilisa da rusuli<br />

propagandis miTSi nebayoflobiT<br />

Sesvla. ar unda SevideT maT<br />

SeTiTxnil miTSi. marTla vin gvelaparakeba<br />

da romel sisxlian 9<br />

weliwadze gvelaparakebian? esaa<br />

„efesbes” kabinetebSi mogonili,<br />

absoluturad yalbi kliSe, etiketi,<br />

romelic ar unda miviweboT.<br />

es 9 weliwadi iyo saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

mSeneblobis, winsvlis,<br />

reformebis urTulesi wlebi. im<br />

wlebSi uamravi raRac gakeTda,<br />

rac Zalian saamayoa saqarTvelosTvis,<br />

gakeTda bevrad meti kargi,<br />

vidre is Secdomebi, razec<br />

laparakia. nawili am Secdomebisa,<br />

ubralod, mogonili da tyuilia.<br />

is gadaWarbebebi da, zog SemTxvevaSi,<br />

danaSaulebi, romelic moxda<br />

Zalovnebis mxridan, gardauvalic<br />

iyo.<br />

_ ratom?<br />

_ imitom, rom saxelmwifos<br />

ararsebobis realobidan gadavdiodiT<br />

saxelmwifos Seqmnis realobaze.<br />

saxelmwifo ucbad ise<br />

gaZlierda, rom misgan Tavdacvis<br />

meqanizmebi amave siCqariT ar ga-<br />

Zlierda. da es abosluturad unikaluri<br />

gamocdilebaa, romelic<br />

maSin SeviZineT, amitom unda vicodeT,<br />

nebismieri Zalovani<br />

struqtura, Tu mas parlamentis<br />

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gadavardeba, arc arafers<br />

gaakeTebs da arc Secdomebs dauSvebs,<br />

magram ar Seasrulebs Tavis<br />

valdebulebebs, rogorc dResaa.<br />

dRes Cveni kontrdazverva, dazverva<br />

absoluturad gadasulia<br />

Sidapolitikuri opoziciis kontrolze.<br />

dRes saqarTveloSi<br />

ruseTis specsamsaxurebi gajejilebuli<br />

arian. midis xalxis masobrivi<br />

rekrutireba, aTasi miTis<br />

Semogdeba, aTasi legendis gamogoneba,<br />

xalxis demotivizacia, rom<br />

ruseTis gareSe araferi moxdeba.<br />

ivaniSvilis xelisuflebam mTlianad<br />

gauxsna xel-fexi rusul<br />

propagandas, rusul specsamsaxurebs.<br />

aSS-s saprezidento arCevnebSic<br />

ki afaTurebs ruseTi xels<br />

da warmoidgineT, amerikaSi rom<br />

amas bedavs, saqarTveloSi ramdens<br />

gabedavs da bedavs kidec. amitom<br />

Secdomebze dausruleblad<br />

laparaks, sjobs, im Secdomebis,<br />

oRond namdvili da ara<br />

gamogonili Secdomebis, mizezebi<br />

gavaanalizoT, rom aRar ganmeordes.<br />

ara miTologiuri, aramed,<br />

racionaluri, logikuri azrovnebiT<br />

vifiqroT momavalze, rom<br />

qveyanas winsvla hqondes. dRes<br />

qveyana aris maCanCala saxelmwifod<br />

gadaqceuli, saqarTvelo<br />

dRes muSaobs inerciiT, es aris<br />

sruliad dauSvebeli, es aris<br />

sruliad gamanadgurebeli Cveni<br />

xvalindeli dRisTvis.<br />

_ rogor fiqrobT, SesaZlebe-<br />

lia Tu ara, arCevnebis gziT<br />

araformaluri mmarTvelobis<br />

dasruleba? esec xom ukve vnaxeT,<br />

arCevnebis gziT is xelisu-<br />

flebas ar Tmobs da SemdegSic<br />

yovelTvis gaayalbebs, an, bolos<br />

da bolos, wava da iyidis arCevnebs<br />

_ moisyidis damSeul mo-<br />

saxleobas.<br />

_ ar mimaCnia, rom arCevnebis<br />

gziT SeuZlebelia oligarqis<br />

damarcxeba, SeiZleba, Tu kargad<br />

imuSaveb. saWiroa muSaoba, bevri<br />

muSaoba xalxTan, saWiroa problemebis<br />

gadaWris gzebis povna,<br />

kargi programis SemuSaveba da am<br />

programis xalxisTvis gacnoba,<br />

maqsimalurad meti amomrCevlis<br />

mobilizeba arCevnebisTvis.<br />

_ Tu gagviyalbebs? gagviyal-<br />

ba kidec.<br />

_ partias unda ebrZola da<br />

daemtkicebina es gayalbeba. es<br />

partiam ar gaakeTa, swored im liderSipis<br />

qveS, romelic dRes gamoeyo<br />

partias da calke gavida.<br />

partiam unda daamtkicos, rom<br />

arCevnebi gayalbda, aCemebiT ar<br />

xdeba es, faqtebi unda dado, rom<br />

gagiyalbes. Tu xalxis nebis warTmevis<br />

mtkicebulebebi iarsebebs<br />

da gamoikveTeba, rom xelisuflebam<br />

borotad gamoiyena mdgomareoba,<br />

maSin, ra Tqma unda, xalxi xelaxal<br />

arCevnebs moiTxovs. Tu xelisufleba<br />

ar Caatarebs xelaxal<br />

arCevnebs, xalxi, ubralod, gayris<br />

maT. gamosavali yovelTvisaa. mTavaria,<br />

xalxma irwmunos Tavisi Zala,<br />

rom isaa sakuTari bedis gamgebeli.<br />

yvelanairi situaciis Secvla<br />

SeiZleba motivirebuli adamianebis<br />

xeliT. ubralod, dRes<br />

ivaniSvili Segnebulad nergavs nihilizms,<br />

rom Tqven araferi Segi-<br />

ZliaT, rom Tqvengan araferi gamova,<br />

da iqnebiT ase, mitovebuli<br />

orRobesaviT. Tu es kliSe miviReT,<br />

Zalian male marTla orRobed<br />

gadaviqceviT. amitom saWiroa momavalze<br />

fiqri. problemebis identifikacia,<br />

maTi gadaWris gzebis<br />

kargad mofiqreba da Semdeg xalxamde<br />

amis mitana. Tu amas warmatebulad<br />

movaxerxebT, aucileblad<br />

arCevnebis gziT, konstituciuri<br />

gziT Seicvleba xelisufleba.<br />

_ vadamdel arCevnebs gamor-<br />

icxavT?<br />

_ arafers gamovricxav imitom,<br />

rom oligarqiuli mmarTveloba<br />

Secdomebs Secdomebze uSvebs.<br />

„gazpromTan” gaformebuli kabaluri<br />

xelSekruleba maTi erTerTi<br />

didi Secdomaa da, rogorc<br />

Cans, isini gaagrZeleben amgvari<br />

da sxvagvari Secdomebis daSvebasac<br />

da xalxis moTmineba araa<br />

arc usazRvro, arc uvado. es<br />

saqarTveloa, saqarTvelo ver<br />

geyoleba mudmivad damorCilebuli.<br />

ase didxans ver gagrZeldeba<br />

da qarTuli sazogadoeba Tavis<br />

sityvas aucileblad ityvis. ityvis<br />

Rirseulad, mSvidobianad, da<br />

Zalian mtkiced. ivaniSvili saqar-<br />

Tvelos orRobed ver gadaaqcevs.<br />

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Tvelo unda iyos Tanamedrove,<br />

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sadac aris Rirseba, siamaye,<br />

niWisTvis asparezi da sadac yoveldRiuri<br />

bednierebis xarisxi bevrad<br />

maRalia, vidre dRes.<br />

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daviT sergeenkos<br />

saqarTvelos Sromis, janmrTe-<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

lobisa da socialuri dacvis am-<br />

Jamindeli ministri profesiiT<br />

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li da arc qalaqgared mdebare binisTvis mimikiTxavs. minis-<br />

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esebs, b-ni daviT sergeenko,<br />

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_ ai, iq, _ miTxres da Cem ukan<br />

mdebare korpusis meore sadarbazosken<br />

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gaaCerebs da imiT midis samsaxurSi~<br />

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rom meCvena.<br />

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da imave kiTxviT<br />

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rogorc mezobeli? rogori<br />

adamiania?<br />

_ kargi adamiania.<br />

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_ gadmodis mezoblebTan?<br />

_ ara, ise mimosvlisTvis ar<br />

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meore sarTulze viyavi asuli,<br />

roca Tavad sergeenkos karis<br />

mezoblis xma momesma:<br />

_ gogoni, es ara, meore sadarbazoa<br />

amis gverdiT.<br />

_ ui, gmadlobT, _ vuTxari da<br />

swrafad Camovirbine kibeebze.<br />

_ ai, is binaa misi, kondicioneri<br />

rom ayenia gareT, _ mimiTiTa.<br />

isev madloba gadavuxade da<br />

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gansxvavebiT). oRond<br />

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nacrisferi kari unda gamoge-<br />

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da liftSi Sediodi.<br />

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qalma gamiRo kari.<br />

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti<br />

var, gazeT „qronika+”-dan, baton<br />

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tis zonaze vwer. mainteresebs,<br />

Tu icnobT?<br />

_ ar vici.<br />

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iciT, vin aris?<br />

_ jandacvis ministrze melaparakebiT?<br />

_ diax, diax.<br />

_ ho, am sadarbazoSi cxovrobs.<br />

_ ginaxavT Tqven TviTon?<br />

_ ki, minaxavs ise, aq rom cxovrobs<br />

vici, magram piradad ar<br />

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binaSi.<br />

_ gasagebia, gmadlobT.<br />

axla zeda sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />

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mcxovreb qalbatons, icnobda<br />

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_ ki, Zalian kargi kacia, koreqtuli,<br />

umaRlesi donis,<br />

zrdili da ganaTlebuli.<br />

_ e. i. icnobT?<br />

_ ki, Cemi ZmisSvilic Zalian<br />

axlos icnobs da iqidanac vici.<br />

_ gmadlobT, es maintereseb-<br />

da.<br />

am qalbatonis karis mezobelTan<br />

gadavinacvle da karze<br />

dakakunebisas, viRac, 4-5 wlis<br />

bavSvis xmiT da enis moCleqiT<br />

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fexebis bakunis xma gavigone.<br />

Semdeg sarTulze mxolod<br />

mesame karze (qvemodan maRla<br />

asvlisas) kakunis Semdeg mipasuxes:<br />

_ vin gnebavT?<br />

_ Jurnalisti var, oriode<br />

kiTxva maqvs TqvenTan, Tu Sei-<br />

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komfortis zona<br />

Zleba.<br />

_ ar var Cacmuli.<br />

_ moicviT rame, araa problema,<br />

ramdenime wams wagarT-<br />

mevT mxolod.<br />

_ ho, magram me mciva (Tqva da<br />

gauCinarda).<br />

wamosvlis garda sxva gza ar<br />

damrCenoda. Semdeg sarTulze<br />

gadavedi, aqac mxolod mesame<br />

karTan gamimarTla da zaris<br />

darekvis Semdeg mipasuxes:<br />

_ vin aris?<br />

_ Jurnalisti var, oriode<br />

kiTxva maqvs, Tu SeiZleba.<br />

kari 16-17 wlis biWma gamiRo:<br />

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_ ara, gmadlobT, ubralod,<br />

mainteresebs, daviT sergeen-<br />

kos Tu icnobT?<br />

_ ara.<br />

_ arc ginaxavT aq arasdros?<br />

_ ki, naxviT minaxavs, magram<br />

ar vicnob.<br />

_ kargi gmadlobT.<br />

Semdeg sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />

aq ukve yavisfer kars mivakakune,<br />

karga xans mesmoda,<br />

rom viRac karTan mosvlas cdilobda<br />

da Zlivs, neli nabijebiT<br />

modioda. kari Sua xnis mamakacma<br />

gaaRo:<br />

_ gamarjoba, daviT sergeen-<br />

kos Tu icnobT?<br />

_ arc ise kargad, TiTqmis<br />

ara.<br />

_ ise, ginaxavT aq?<br />

_ ki, ise garedan Semixedavs.<br />

_ gesalmebaT xolme?<br />

_ ar vicnob da amitom iSviaTad,<br />

Torem ise ki minaxavs.<br />

_ kargi, didi madloba.<br />

Tqvens zemo sarTulze cx-<br />

ovrobs, xom?<br />

_ ki, ki, zemoTaa.<br />

_ gmadlobT.<br />

axla sapirispiro mxares gadavinacvle<br />

da RilakisTvis<br />

unda dameWira xeli, romelic<br />

zaris xmas gamoscemda da<br />

uknidan xma momesma:<br />

_ iqiTac igivea Svilo, Cven<br />

erTi ojaxi varT.<br />

_ kargiT-meTqi, _ vuTxari da<br />

zemoT sarTulze gadavinacvle,<br />

aq samive binis kars foto gadavuRe<br />

da erTi sarTuliT zemoT<br />

avedi, kari aravin gamiRo, amis<br />

zeda sarTulzec igive miTxres,<br />

rom Soridan hyavdaT nanaxi da<br />

Tvali mokruli, magram Tavad<br />

ar icnobdnen, amitom qvemoT<br />

Camovedi. gzad isev vakakunebdi<br />

im karebze, romlebic ramdenime<br />

wuTis win ar gamiRes, iqneb, axla<br />

mainc gamimarTlos da mipasuxon-meTqi,<br />

magram amaod.<br />

ezoSi Camovedi, sadac mamakacebis<br />

Sekreba iyo, axla ori maTganiRa<br />

SemorCeniliyo, erTi _<br />

swored is karis mezobeli,<br />

romelmac damakvaliana. Cemken<br />

gamoixedes da mekiTxebian:<br />

_ aba, ra qeni, naxe?<br />

_ diax, rac maintersebda,<br />

gavige. uSualod b-n daviTs ar<br />

Sevxvedrivar.<br />

_ gasagebia.<br />

_ kidev rames xom ar metyo-<br />

diT masze, rogorc mezobelze,<br />

rame Sekrebaze Tu dadis xol-<br />

me?<br />

komfortis zona<br />

_ ki, Svilo, panaSvidi Tua<br />

vinmesi, maSin Semodis da gverdiT<br />

gvidgas xolme, Torem axla<br />

CvenTan rom dadges gareT da<br />

gvesaubros, egre araa.<br />

_ anu msgavsi SemTxvevebis<br />

dros gadmodis xolme?<br />

_ diax, diax Zalian ubralo<br />

ojaxia, meuRlec iseTia, ubralo<br />

da uSualo urTierTobaSi.<br />

saubarSi meore mamakaci Cae-<br />

rTo:<br />

_ saxlSi arc mosamsaxure<br />

hyavT da arc araferi, yvelafers<br />

TviTon akeTeben, Tvi-<br />

Ton recxavs meuRle, fens,<br />

Zalian ubralod cxovrobs.<br />

_ vinmem rame rom sTxovos,<br />

avad iyos, an rame, ar arsebobs,<br />

rom ar dagakvalianos. Zalian<br />

uSualoa. xandaxan manqanas gauSvebs<br />

da TviTon centralur<br />

gzamde gava, gaCerdeba, an samarSruto<br />

taqsiSi Cajdeba, an<br />

taqsis gaaCerebs da imiT midis<br />

samsaxurSi. ori gogona hyavs,<br />

studentebi arian da saswavleblad<br />

dadian, magram maTac iSviaTad<br />

vxedavT.<br />

_ rame istoria xom ar gada-<br />

gxdeniaT erTad?<br />

_ rame iseTi gansakuTrebuli,<br />

gasarTobi ara, magram ai,<br />

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cocxalia da kargadaa<br />

Cveni mezobeli.<br />

vinc mivida, yvelas daexmara<br />

da uTanagrZno.<br />

_ ase gidgaT xolme gver-<br />

diT?<br />

_ ki, ki sul. Tan Zalian ubraloa,<br />

aseTi ministri rom iyos<br />

yvela, kargad iqneboda Cveni<br />

saqme.<br />

amasobaSi, sanam Cven vsaubrobdiT,<br />

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qudiT mamakaci movida, etyoboda,<br />

raRac avtoritetiT sargeblobda<br />

mezoblebSi da orivem<br />

am axalmosulisken gamaxeda, _<br />

ai, am kacs hkiTxe, rogoria Cveni<br />

ministrio, Tan erT-erTma<br />

auxsna, _ Jurnalistia „qronika+”-dan<br />

da daviT sergeenkoze<br />

wers, ainteresebs, rogori mezobeliao.<br />

_ Zalian kargi, Zalian gviyvars<br />

da vafasebT, wesieri kacia.<br />

_ miTxres, rom uSualo ad-<br />

amiania.<br />

_ diax, diax namdvilad.<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT, Tqven<br />

yvelas, bednieri dRe.<br />

_ aseve Tqvenc, velodebiT<br />

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ukan ise ver davbrundebodi,<br />

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maRaziis gamyidvelebisgan<br />

ar gamego, amitom sanam uSualod<br />

am mosaxvevSi Semovidodi da<br />

korpusebs davaTvalierebdi,<br />

manamde erT-erTi maRazia Seviguliane<br />

da Tu ambebi ministris<br />

ubraloebaze mTlad miTi ar<br />

iyo, maSin safuZvliani eWvi arsebobda,<br />

rom igi, an misi ojaxis<br />

wevrebi swored am maRaziaSi dadiodnen<br />

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sakmaod bevri xalxi damxvda,<br />

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salarosTanac bevri xalxi iyo<br />

da konsultantic _ dakavebuli,<br />

Tumca vifiqre, rom rigSi dgoma<br />

ramdenime kiTxvis gamo, ubralod,<br />

ar Rirda, amitom, Sei-<br />

Zleba, cota „Tavxeduradac”,<br />

magram mainc molare gogonas-<br />

Tan mivedi gverdidan.<br />

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti<br />

var, mainteresebs, baton daviT<br />

sergeenkos Tu icnobT?<br />

_ ministrs?<br />

_ diax, diax.<br />

_ uSualod ara, magram Soridan<br />

vicnob, vici, vinc aris.<br />

_ aq Semodis xolme?<br />

_ TviTon ara, meuRle da<br />

Svilebi Semodian.<br />

_ gasagebia, gmadlobT.<br />

am gogonas saSualeba miveci,<br />

Tavisi saqme gaegrZelebina da<br />

axla konsultantTan gadavinacvle.<br />

es Suaxnis asakis SavTmiani<br />

qali iyo. masac igive vuTxari,<br />

_ Jurnalisti var da informacia<br />

maintersebs sergeenkoze,<br />

rogori adamiani da momxmarebelia,<br />

ramdenad xSirad ginaxavT<br />

da dadis Tu ara Tqven-<br />

Tan- meTqi?<br />

erTi amreziT ki Semomxeda,<br />

magram mipasuxa:<br />

_ ra vici, TviTon ar dadis,<br />

magram col-Svili dadis xolme<br />

CvenTan, Cveulebrivi urTier-<br />

Toba gvaqvs, rogorc momsaxure<br />

personals da momxmarebels,<br />

gansakuTrebuli araferi.<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT, _ vuTxari<br />

da gamovedi.<br />

karTan ar viyavi misuli,<br />

roca am SavTmian kolsuntant-<br />

Tan meore gogona mivida, isic<br />

imave maRaziis TanamSromeli da<br />

Cemze hkiTxa:<br />

_ rao, ra mindao, ra Tqva?<br />

_ ra vici me, viRac sergeenkoo<br />

da rogoria urTierTobaSio.<br />

_ aaah, gasagebia, _ upasuxa<br />

meorem.<br />

am dros kari gamovixure da<br />

gamovedi. gzad isev is Sesaxvevi<br />

gaviare, sadac Cveni dRevandeli<br />

gmiri Tavmdablurad da ubralod<br />

cxovrobs (yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />

rogorc mezoblebma<br />

Tqves).<br />

saxlSi Suqi enTo (moRrublul<br />

amindSi SegeZlo garCeva,<br />

rom enTo), sadarbazosTan bevri<br />

naZvis xe idga (Tavs davdeb, rom<br />

axlac dgas).<br />

maS, ase! Sromis, janmrTelobisa<br />

da socialuri dacvis ministris<br />

komfortis zona aris<br />

saburTalo, TamaraSvilis quCa,<br />

mSvidi Cixi, sadac naZvis xeebi<br />

maradmwvanoben.<br />

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Taisis maJoritari deputati:<br />

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var, rom am oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

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ba gavrcelda.<br />

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maJoritari deputati:<br />

_ ara mgonia, es simarTle<br />

iyos. komisiis muSaobiT vinteresdebi.<br />

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an sxvagvarad gaiges. ararealurad meCveneba amxela sakiTxis<br />

garSemo diskusia ise midiodes, rom ar vicodeT~<br />

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iloT, vimsjeloT. am Temaze<br />

diskusiaa saWiro. es ar aris<br />

sakiTxi, romelic ase swrafad<br />

gvardeba. Cven movismineT winasaarCevnod<br />

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da saxelmwifoSi<br />

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SoTa murRulia _ quTaisis<br />

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Ta aliansis” wevris gaJRerebuli<br />

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mxars parlamentis gadatanas<br />

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wevri:<br />

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qarTul enaze vsaubrobdi da<br />

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sakiTxia da ras unda velo-<br />

doT?<br />

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ubralod, didi jgufia<br />

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rom did xarjTan aris dakavSirebuli<br />

quTaisSi yofna da<br />

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struqturebi iq unda darCes<br />

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romelia es 20%, ra azri aqvs<br />

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gavrcelda informacia.<br />

_ e. i., jerjerobiT, SeTanxmeba<br />

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mxolod erTi jgufi. jerjerobiT,<br />

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iq ufro bevrad saintereso<br />

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gadatana-gadmotana. Cven gansakuTrebuli<br />

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jgufSi parlamentis adgilmdebareobasTan<br />

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eWvs mainc iwvevs. bunebrivia,<br />

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dedaqalaqis problemacaa,<br />

romelmac raRac unda<br />

gaiRos, Tuki es qveynis Tanabari<br />

ganviTarebisTvisaa aucilebeli.<br />

N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.<br />

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Tamar batiaSvili<br />

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wavida Cven mier gadaxdili uzarmazari<br />

Tanxebi, magram es aravis ainteresebs.<br />

isev gvipasuxes, sisxlis<br />

samarTlis niSnebi ar ikveTebao.<br />

„saiam”axali saCivari mogvimzada<br />

da generalur inspeqcias mivmar-<br />

TeT. marto Cvens korpusSi am firmam<br />

milionze meti miiTvisa da sad<br />

wavida es Tanxebi, aravis ainteresebs.<br />

kanonmorCili moqalaqeebi<br />

varT da saxelmwifos daxmarebisTvis<br />

mivmarTavT, quCur garCevebs<br />

xom ar daviwyebT?! gviCndeba safu-<br />

Zvliani eWvi, rom prokuraturaSi<br />

viRac lobirebs, ar viciT vin,<br />

magram amaze faqtebi metyvelebs!<br />

ratom iRebs es adamiani amxela<br />

codvas kiserze, ar vici.<br />

Cveni informaciiT, „aqsisi” TanamSromlobs<br />

Tanadafinansebis<br />

fondTan. televiziiT gaSuqda da<br />

iqidan viciT, rom 83-milioniani<br />

proeqtia da 50X50-ze axorcieleben<br />

kompania „aqsisi” da Tanadafinansebis<br />

fondi, romelic or caTambjens<br />

aSenebs WavWavaZeze, „lib-<br />

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rvalze arian da rom vkiTxeT, sad<br />

wavida fulio, TviTon kapanaZem<br />

axsena, ganviTareba xdeboda da<br />

sxva miwas vyidulobdiTo. warmogidgeniaT,<br />

Cveni TanxebiT gamdidrdnen,<br />

ra ufleba hqondaT?!<br />

Cvennairad sxvebic arian dazaralebulebi,<br />

aris sxva mitovebuli korpusebi,<br />

aris xalxi, magaliTad,<br />

2008 wlis agvistoSi, omamde unda<br />

Cabareboda bina da dRemde mSenebloba<br />

SeCerebulia. sainteresoa,<br />

omamde raRam SeuSalaT xeli?! is<br />

binebi upatronod aris mitovebuli<br />

da ukve gafuWebulia, demonta-<br />

Ji unda moxdes. vin daafinansebs<br />

axla imis demontaJs?! es xom qalaqi<br />

aRar aris, stalingrads daemsgavsa!<br />

omamde Tu arafers akeTebdnen,<br />

e. i. me rom Tanxa Sevitane 2007<br />

wels, isini ukve TaRliTebi da<br />

aferistebi iyvnen, ukve gadagdebuli<br />

hyavdaT xalxi da, saubedurod,<br />

Cven es ar vicodiT! dResac Tu<br />

gauvaT da vinmes moatyueben, didi<br />

siamovnebiT izamen! es samSeneblo<br />

kompania ki ar aris, es aris organizacia,<br />

romelic Suamavalia mSeneblebsa<br />

da klientebs Soris! axla<br />

gadavwyviteT, mTavari prokuraturis<br />

win aqciebi movawyoT. prokuraturisgan<br />

da xelisuflebisgan<br />

viTxovT, Seasrulon TavianTi konstituciuri<br />

valdebuleba da gvipasuxon,<br />

_ sad wavida Cven mier<br />

gadaxili asobiT aTasi Tanxa?!<br />

merab CiCua:<br />

_ 2008 wlis ivnisSi Sps „aqsis-<br />

Tan” xelSekruleba gavaforme. 75<br />

aTasi evro unda gadamexada, ratom?<br />

dRemde ar vici, magram raRac<br />

procentebic damiTvales da, saboloo<br />

jamSi, 77 771 evro haerSi gadaixade.<br />

unda mimeRo 118 kv.m bina.<br />

Cemi movaleoba, rogorc xelSekrulebaSi<br />

iyo gawerili, pirnaTlad<br />

Sevasrule, gadioda wlebi,<br />

mivdiodi ofisSi, vkiTxulobdi ra<br />

xdeba, rodis daiwyebT, menejeri<br />

hyavT qalbatoni, romelic araadamianuri<br />

saqcieliT cdilobda,<br />

mdgomareobidan gamoveyvane, _ madloba<br />

miTxariT, telefonze rom<br />

gpasuxobTo. yvelanairad cdilobda,<br />

raRac dameSavebina da Tavi davanebe.<br />

2014 wels advokati aviyvane<br />

da mivaRwie, rom 2015 wels axali<br />

xelSekruleba gavaforme. dampirdnen,<br />

rom 2016 wlis martSi binas<br />

Camabarebdnen. xelSekruleba-<br />

Si aris aseTi punqti, rom Tu 2014<br />

wlis ivnisidan rva Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />

ar daiwyebdnen mSeneblobas,<br />

aT samuSao dReSi Tanxas damibrunebdnen,<br />

an sxva binas Semom-<br />

Tavazebdnen, Tu SemoTavazebul<br />

binaze vityodi uars, Tanxa unda<br />

daebrunebinaT. damTavrda 2016<br />

weli da valdebuleba isev Seusrulebeli<br />

darCa. zogadad, amboben,<br />

rom Cveni binis araSeneba 2008 wlis<br />

omma gamoiwvia, samdRiani krizisi<br />

iyoo, amas abraleben, magram 2014<br />

wlis Semdeg xom omi ar yofila...<br />

arc 2008 wels dazaralebulan,<br />

sasamarTlo davis dros maTi iuristi<br />

ambobda, _ 2008 wels rusebs<br />

hqondaT gadaketili mTavari magistrali,<br />

Cven mivdiodiT armaturis<br />

sayidlad, ver viyideT da amitom<br />

ver avaSeneTo. Tu armatura ver<br />

iyides, daerekaT, modiT, waiReT<br />

Tqveni fuli, ver vyidulobT armaturaso.<br />

meore argumenti iyo, _<br />

mere, 2009 wels vapirebdiT armaturis<br />

yidvas, magram 2009 wels<br />

rusTavelze mitingebi iyo da<br />

yazbegis quCaze SeferxebiT gadaadgildebodnen<br />

satvirTo avtomobilebi,<br />

amis gamo ver avaSeneTo.<br />

cinizmis mijnaa! es saqme sisxlis<br />

samarTlis danaSauli imitom aris,<br />

rom am kompaniaSi Cveni mxridan<br />

uzarmazari Tanxebi Sevida, erTi<br />

da igive pirebi afuZneben sxvadasxva<br />

Sps-s, erT Sps-ze iReben<br />

valdebulebas, mere es Tanxebi ukvalod<br />

qreba da sad midis, aravin<br />

icis. naxevari vake-saburTalo<br />

aaSenes, daasrules, binebi gayides<br />

da bednierad arian, axlac yidian<br />

da axali mSeneblobebic iwyeba,<br />

Cven ra niSniT gamogvarCies?! rodesac<br />

„aqsisis” gayidvebis menejers,<br />

qalbaton ekas vuTxari, yazaxeTis<br />

moqalaqe var, minda, saqarTveloSi<br />

davbrunde da rodis<br />

iqneba bina-meTqi? mipasuxa, _ aq ra<br />

ginda, karg adgilas yofilxaro...<br />

erTi mxriv, SeiZleba, simarTlec<br />

Tqva...<br />

daviT lomsaZe:<br />

_ petriaSvilis quCaze xelSekruleba<br />

gavaforme, „aqsis plusisgan”<br />

sesxi aviRe da „aqsis developments”<br />

nasyidobis xelSekruleba<br />

gavuforme. binis mSenebloba<br />

2011 wels saerTod unda damTavrebuliyo.<br />

vali pirnaTlad davfare,<br />

procentianad, am motiviT<br />

Cemi binac gavyide. roca kompanias<br />

vukavSirdebodi, meubnebodnen, _<br />

aSendebao. mec vujerebdi am dapirebas,<br />

magram rom mivxvdi, matyuebdnen,<br />

sasamarTloSi viCivle. gamoikveTa,<br />

rom xelSekruleba dadebuli<br />

mqonda „aqsis development-<br />

Tan” da TviTon miwa, sadac bina<br />

unda aSenebuliyo, Sps „aqsisis”<br />

iyo. daviwyeT dava da pirveli instancia<br />

movige, Tanxa daakisres<br />

Tavisi 9%-iT, magram mere es yvelaferi<br />

moviZieT _ aRsruleba imitom<br />

ar xdeba, rom saerTod, am<br />

Sps-s qoneba ar gaaCnia. mere finansur<br />

policias mivmarTe, axsnaganmarteba<br />

CamomarTves, gamokiTxvis<br />

oqmi prokuraturaSi gadaagzavnes<br />

im motiviT, rom iq am saqmeebis<br />

Tavmoyra xdeboda. gamoZieba ar<br />

daiwyo, mere rogorc iraklim aRniSna,<br />

erToblivi gancxadebiT mivmarTeT,<br />

magram Sedegi _ nuli. finansur<br />

policiaSi gviTxres, isev<br />

samoqalaqo kuTxiT girCevniaT<br />

wasvla, imitom, rom xelfasi kompaniis<br />

damfuZnebels, meJeviZes aRebuli<br />

aqvs TveSi 80 000 lari, kapanaZes<br />

ki 20 000. aRar daukonkretebiaT,<br />

magram gvirCies, am kuTxiT<br />

girCevniaT wavla imitom, rom verafers<br />

miiRebT aqedan, aRsruleba<br />

carieli furcliT ar moxdebao.<br />

am dros, 2012 wlis monacemebiT,<br />

meJeviZe 100 yvelaze mdidar qar-<br />

TvelTa Soris 27-e adgils ikavebs,<br />

cxovrobs niu-iorkSi, saqarTveloSi<br />

roca Camodis, TviTon da<br />

misi Svili dacviT dadis, sakmaod<br />

uzrunvelyofili ojaxia, 2012<br />

wlis Semdeg, SeiZleba, kidev gamdidrdnen,<br />

magram aravis qonebas ar<br />

viTvliT, Cven Cvensas viTxovT.<br />

Rameebi ar gvZinavs, iseT cud dRe-<br />

Si varT, janmrTeloba SevwireT am<br />

„aqsiss”. Cveni ojaxebis xarjze ratom<br />

xdeba es yvelaferi?! dagvxocon,<br />

Tu ar vWirdebiT araferSi!<br />

Tu Cveni saxl-kari ar unda gvqondes,<br />

pirdapir gviTxran da gaviqceviT,<br />

wavalT... davberdiT binis<br />

molodinSi, 10 welia, uimedod<br />

velodebiT...<br />

Sorena bereJiani:<br />

_ am SemTxvevaSi warmovadgen<br />

dedaCems, bina Cemzea gaformebuli,<br />

magram is Tanxa, romelic binis<br />

asaSeneblad gadavixadeT, es<br />

aris misi ramdenime wlis Sromis<br />

Sedegi, amerikaSi iyo da imis gamo,<br />

rom am binis aSenebas elodeboda,<br />

8-9 wliT gvian Camovida. 2007 wels<br />

maqvs mec Tanxa Setanili da bina<br />

2011 wels unda Cagvbareboda. Tanxa<br />

yovelTviurad Zalian zustad,<br />

pedanturad Segvqonda, erTi dRis<br />

gadacilebac ar maqvs. Semdeg xelSekrulebis<br />

Secvla viTxoveT da<br />

yvelaze patara binaSi gadavcvaleT,<br />

radgan im Tanxis Setana ukve<br />

aRar SegveZlo. axali xelSekrulebis<br />

pirobiT, bina 2013 wels<br />

unda Cagvbareboda. axlac am binas<br />

velodebiT, magram araferi aSenebula.<br />

yovel Tve mivdiodi da rom<br />

vxedavdi, guli miskdeboda, sam-<br />

Seneblo moedanic ki ar iyo momzadebuli.<br />

Tanxas mainc vixdidiT,<br />

vasrulebdi pirobas, imedi mqonda,<br />

Tu „aqsisi” ver aaSenebda, viRas-<br />

Tvis unda gamomecxadebina ndoba?!<br />

axla 2017 welia, zustad igive<br />

mdgomareobaa, araferi aSenebula.<br />

vadaze adre gvaqvs Tanxa gadaxdili.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, Cvenc sesxi<br />

gvqonda, TviTonve gvasesxes da<br />

procentis CaTvliT 65 500 dolari<br />

vadaze adre davfareT. bolos,<br />

vifiqre, rom sasamarTloSi meCivla,<br />

magram sxva dazaralebulebs<br />

rom Sevxvdi da vnaxe, mogebuli<br />

sasamarTlos meSveobiTac verafers<br />

miaRwies, kidev erTxel molaparakebis<br />

gziT vcade urTierToba.<br />

vTxove, rom amis kompensaciis<br />

sanacvlod, binis isev imdeni far-<br />

Ti moecaT, romelzedac Tavidan<br />

viyaviT SeTanxmebulebi. damTanxmdnen<br />

imitom, rom Tanxis dabruneba<br />

da farTi sxva korpusSi gamoricxes.<br />

am etapze am molaparakebis<br />

procesSi var. advokatis ayvanis<br />

saSualebac ar maqvs, esec xom did<br />

xarjebTan aris dakavSirebuli?!<br />

ubralod, es Tanxa fizikurad ar<br />

maqvs, dedaCemi Camovida, ubinaod<br />

darCa, CemTan cxovrobs, quCaSi xom<br />

ar unda darCes adamiani?! moralur<br />

zaralze ukve arafers vambob.<br />

rac „aqsisSi” SevitaneT Tanxa,<br />

bankSi rom dagvedo, aqamde ori<br />

imdeni iqneboda. yvelam, Cemma axlobelma,<br />

ukve icis da aravis vur-<br />

Cev, am kompaniasTan saqme daiWiros.<br />

ori dRis win, kviras Rame, traqtori<br />

miiyvanes im teritoriaze,<br />

sadac Cveni korpusi unda aSenebuliyo<br />

da ramdenime manqana nagavi<br />

gaitanes. acxadeben, rom TiTqos<br />

2018 wlis Semodgomaze gveqneba<br />

binebi. rogor gveqneba, magaliTad,<br />

iraklisa da daviTis SemTxvevaSi,<br />

xelSekrulebidan gasulebi arian,<br />

sasamarTlom daakisra maT Tanxis<br />

gadaxda da amboben, rom ar aqvT.<br />

an rogor unda aaSenon, am miwis<br />

nakveTs uamravi yadaRa adevs, vin<br />

aSenebs, romeli Sps?! kidev erTi<br />

xazgasasmeli faqtia, erTsa da<br />

imave korpusze, erTsa da imave<br />

dros xelSekrulebebia gaformebuli.<br />

erT SemTxvevaSi „aqsis developmentze”,<br />

meore SemTxvevaSi<br />

Sps „aqsisze”, ratom sWirdebaT es?<br />

auqcionze gamoitanes, eWvi aris,<br />

rom TviTonve daayadaRes da axla<br />

gayides. erTi miwis nakveTia gayiduli<br />

60 000 larSi, meore 10 000<br />

larSi, mflobelia „aqsis grupi”,<br />

isev TavianTi firma, saxelebs ucvlian<br />

imitom, rom Cvennairi davis<br />

SemTxvevaSi araferi gadaixadon!<br />

kerZo da oficialur saubrebSi ar<br />

malaven da saqarTvelos sajaro<br />

reestridan amonabeWdi informaciis<br />

mixedviTac amboben, rom arian<br />

erTi da igiveebi, prokuraturaSic<br />

Tqves, erTni varTo, sagaze-<br />

To interviuSic, magram sasamarTlo<br />

davis dros umkacresad usvamen<br />

xazs, rom es aris sxva Sps, mepatroneebi<br />

erTi da igivea.<br />

„qronika+“ kompania „aqsisis“<br />

direqtors, giorgi kapanaZes<br />

daukavSirda:<br />

- Sps-s qoneba rogor ar gaaCnia,<br />

ubralod, valdebulebebi aris<br />

da rodesac Civian, erTmaneTis<br />

qonebas ayadaReben da aseTi mdgomareoba<br />

iqmneba, rom aRsrulebidan<br />

Tanxebi ar amodis. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, obieqtebi Sendeba, miuxedavad<br />

amisa, yvela kreditori, saboloo<br />

jamSi, iTxovs, rom aqtiviT<br />

da pasiviT gavides. aseT kompanias,<br />

romelic aseT dReSia, sasamarTloSi<br />

aqvs saqme da qoneba dayadaRebulia,<br />

aravin daafinansebs,<br />

arc banki da arc kerZo investori.<br />

yvelas moTxovnaa, rom aqtivebi gadavides<br />

axal kompaniaze da aseT<br />

SemTxvevaSi afinanseben xolme.<br />

vicnob am jgufs, romelTac Tqven<br />

mogmarTes, mesmis am xalxis, me Tvi-<br />

Ton, sadac dekanoziSvili elodeba<br />

binas, iq maqvs nayidi. daqiravebuli<br />

menejeri var, Cemi xom ar<br />

aris es kompania, mec viyide, meZaxian,<br />

TaRliTi xaro da rogor var<br />

TaRliTi, sakuTari Tavic movatyue?<br />

Tavis droze xeli SegviSala<br />

krizisma, rom valdebuleba<br />

Segvesrulebina, 2008 wlis agvistos<br />

omma daasamara es saqme. visac<br />

nayidi hqonda da fuli iyo Semosatani,<br />

aRar Semoitana. Tqven mogmarTaT<br />

xalxma, romelTac mTlianad<br />

aqvs Tanxa gadaxdili, magram<br />

danarCenis mxridan valdebuleba<br />

bolomde ar Sesrulda. eseni arian<br />

umciresobaSi, ZiriTadad, binebi<br />

ganvadebiT iyideboda da mogexsenebaT,<br />

dResac asea. zogs Tvi-<br />

Tonac Seeqmna problema da Tanxa<br />

veRar Semoitana, zogs SeeSinda,<br />

aRarc axali myidvelebi movidnen<br />

da obieqtebis mSenebloba veRar<br />

gagrZelda. 2008 wlamde ver damisaxelebT<br />

verc erT kompanias gamonaklisis<br />

garda, yvela iyo damokidebuli<br />

winaswar gayidvebze. imdenad<br />

didi moTxovna iyo, rom xalxi<br />

mSenebares yidulobda, metic,<br />

bankebi aZlevdnen sesxebs klientebs,<br />

rom maT CvenTan eyidaT bina<br />

da uzrunvelyofaSi idebdnen<br />

auSenebel qonebas. axla arc erTi<br />

banki amas aRar izams. Cven am xalx-<br />

Tan erTad varT dazaralebulebi,<br />

Zalian seriozuli dartyma miviReT.<br />

samwuxaroa, rom es procesi<br />

aqamde gaiwela, magram, sabednierod,<br />

mSeneblobis procesi ukve<br />

daviwyeT, momdevno wlis bolos<br />

CavabarebT imitom, rom Zalian ma-<br />

Rali obieqtia da dro sWirdeba.<br />

TvalTmaqcoba da tyuilebi rom<br />

ar daviwyoT, 20 Tve namdvilad<br />

sWirdeba. erTi suli gvaqvs Cvenc,<br />

rodis gavistumrebT am adamianebs.<br />

TviTon am xalxis survili - ufro<br />

adre dakmayofildnen, vidre, davuSvaT,<br />

maTi mezoblebi arian, gasagebia,<br />

subieqturad yvela uyurebs,<br />

rom fuli Sevitane da minda<br />

miviRo. mec, magaliTad, ase minda,<br />

magram globalur suraTs rom<br />

SexedoT, ase ufro samarTliani<br />

iqneba. Cven rom am adamianebs Tanxebi<br />

davubrunoT, kidev gansazRvravs<br />

mSeneblobis gadavadebas,<br />

ufro samarTliani iqneba, yvelam<br />

erTad miiRos binebi. binebi rom<br />

CabardebaT, Tu ar undaT iq cxovreba,<br />

mere gayidian, Cvenc mivexmarebiT<br />

gayidvaSi, an gavyidiT da<br />

Tanxas davubrunebT. im xalxma,<br />

romelmac sasamarTloSi iCivla da<br />

Tanxa ekuTvnis, imas aucileblad<br />

miiRebs, magram pirvel rigSi, es<br />

mSenebloba unda dasruldes.<br />

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yvelaze Zlieri instituti saqarTveloSi sabanko seqtoria<br />

_ es cxadia. bazarze maTi konkurenti sxva instituti arc ki<br />

arsebobs da amaze calsaxad saubroben rogorc Tavad sabanko<br />

seqtoris warmomadgenlebi, aseve eqspertebi. Tumca yvelaze<br />

did problemas, am SemTxvevaSi, arsebuli situacia warmoadgens,<br />

romelic Semdegia: komerciuli bankebi ar gascemen sesx-<br />

ebs potenciur konkurent biznesebze, radgan isini Tavad<br />

floben araprofilur biznesebs, romlis warmatebac bankis<br />

siZlieriTaa garantirebuli, am dros ki Tavisufali biznesi<br />

iCagreba, romelmac mxolod is „daaSava”, rom xsenebuli ko-<br />

merciuli bankebis mflobelobaSi arsebuli araprofiluri<br />

biznesis konkurentia. im depozitebis, anu momxmareblebis mier<br />

konkretul bankSi dabandebuli Tanxis gamoyenebis mimarTule-<br />

bas, ra Tqma unda, TviTon banki gansazRvravs, Tumca rogorc<br />

eqsperti, vaxtang xomizuraSvili ambobs, wesiT, am Tanxebis<br />

ZiriTadi mimarTuleba sesxebi unda iyos, romelTa gacemaze<br />

procenti ufro maRalia, vidre depozitze dawesebuli pro-<br />

centi, swored amiT ikvebebian bankebi.<br />

vaxtang xomizuraSvili _<br />

eqsperti:<br />

_ is, Tu rogor unda gamoiyenos<br />

bankma aqtivebi, mkacrad<br />

reglamentirebuli ar aris, amas<br />

banki Tavad wyvets.<br />

Cven unda davakvirdeT imas,<br />

Tu ramdenia sakredito portfeli<br />

depozitebidan, Tu igi (sakredito<br />

portfeli, igive gacemuli<br />

sesxebi) ufro metia, vidre<br />

depozitebi, vaskvniT, rom bankma<br />

garda Tavisi depozitebisa,<br />

gamoiyena saaqcio kapitalis nawili<br />

sesxebSi. rogorc wesi, sakredito<br />

portfeli gacilebiT didia,<br />

vidre moziduli depozitebi,<br />

radgan banki, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

iyenebs klienturis mimdinare angariSebis<br />

nawils, plus imas, rac<br />

saaqcio kapitalSi aqvs. xolo im<br />

SemTxvevaSi, Tu gacemuli sesxebi<br />

ufro naklebia, vidre depozitebi,<br />

daskvna ideba, rom banki am<br />

depozitebs araprofilur saqmianobaSi<br />

iyenebs. magram pirdapir<br />

ver ganasxvaveb, ra Tanxebia<br />

gacemul sesxebSi.<br />

maxsovs adre erT-erT banks<br />

depozitebis moculoba meti<br />

hqonda, vidre gacemuli sesxebi.<br />

daisva kiTxva, Tu sad wavida es<br />

Tanxebi? pirvveli: araprofilur<br />

biznesSi (sakuTari kompaniebis<br />

SeqmnaSi), is banks ar hqonda;<br />

meore: fiqsirebul aqtivebSi,<br />

uZravi qoneba: Senoba, bankomatebi,<br />

mowyobilobebi, aveji da a. S.<br />

dadginda, rom es Tanxebi mimarTuli<br />

iyo araSemosavlian aqtivebze,<br />

anu uZrav qonebaze, rac, ra<br />

Tqma unda, sagangaSo aRmoCnda.<br />

mere am banks aRniSnuli depozitebis<br />

momsaxurebis problemebi<br />

gauCnda.<br />

sabolood, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />

rom bankebi da maTi araprofiluri<br />

saqmianobebi erTmaneTisgan<br />

unda gaimijnos. erovnuli banki<br />

iniciativiT unda gamovides da<br />

mere parlamentma moagvaros es<br />

yvelaferi, Torem romel parlamentars<br />

mouva TavSi am yvelafris<br />

Secvla da kanonmdeblobaSi<br />

Setana?! msgavs saqmeze pasuxismgebloba<br />

erovnulma bankma<br />

unda itvirTos, misi pirdapiri<br />

movaleobaa.<br />

26<br />

cota ukan rom gadavinacvloT,<br />

jer kidev, 2015 wels,<br />

erovnuli bankis yofili direqtoris,<br />

giorgi qadagiZis regulaciiT,<br />

bankebs sam-<br />

Seneblo da sxva<br />

tipis kompaniebi<br />

xsenebuli<br />

wlis 31 de-<br />

vaxtang xomizuraSvili<br />

kembramde unda daeTmoT. marTalia,<br />

am ideis avtori oTxi eqspertisgan<br />

Semdgari jgufi iyo,<br />

romelmac (levan kalandaZe, irakli<br />

leqvinaZe, levan alafiSvili<br />

da giorgi abaSiSvili) xelisuflebas<br />

komerciuli bankebisTvis<br />

arasabanko da araprofiluri<br />

saqmianobis akrZalvis winadadebiT<br />

mimarTa, magram mTavari<br />

Sedegi iyo da regulaciac<br />

ZalaSi Sevida, romlis Semdegac,<br />

saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis<br />

gadawyvetilebiT, qveyanaSi moqmed<br />

komerciul bankebs araprofiluri<br />

saqmianoba aekrZalaT.<br />

sabanko seqtori mxolod tradiciuli<br />

safinanso momsaxurebis<br />

miwodebiT unda Semofargluliyo.<br />

metic, araprofiluri saqmianobis<br />

wamosawyebad axali nebar-<br />

Tvebis gacemis meTodic sagrZnoblad<br />

gamkacrda, rac 2008 wlamde<br />

arsebul praqtikas Seesabameboda.<br />

im komerciul bankebs,<br />

ratom ar gascemen sesxebs<br />

komerciuli bankebi da<br />

aregulireben Tu ara<br />

isini araprofiluri<br />

biznesebis flobas?<br />

`jer kidev, 2015 wels, erovnuli bankis yofili direqtoris, giorgi<br />

qadagiZis regulaciiT, bankebs samSeneblo da sxva tipis kompaniebi<br />

xsenebuli wlis 31 dekembramde unda daeTmoT. marTalia, am ideis<br />

avtori oTxi eqspertisgan Semdgari jgufi iyo, romelmac (levan<br />

kalandaZe, irakli leqvinaZe, levan alafiSvili da giorgi<br />

abaSiSvili) xelisuflebas komerciuli bankebisTvis arasabanko da<br />

araprofiluri saqmianobis akrZalvis winadadebiT mimarTa, magram<br />

mTavari Sedegi iyo da regulaciac ZalaSi Sevida, romlis<br />

Semdegac, saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis gadawyvetilebiT, qveyanaSi<br />

moqmed komerciul bankebs araprofiluri saqmianoba aekrZalaT.<br />

sabanko seqtori mxolod tradiciuli safinanso momsaxurebis<br />

miwodebiT unda Semofargluliyo. metic, araprofiluri<br />

saqmianobis wamosawyebad axali nebarTvebis gacemis meTodic<br />

sagrZnoblad gamkacrda, rac 2008 wlamde arsebul praqtikas<br />

Seesabameboda. im komerciul bankebs, romlebic aseT saqmianobaSi<br />

ukve CarTulebi iyvnen, 30 kalendaruli dRis vadaSi, seb-isTvis<br />

bankis arasafinanso sferodan etapobrivad, 2015 wlis 31<br />

dekembramde, gamosvlis detaluri strategia unda waredginaT~<br />

romlebic aseT saqmianobaSi ukve<br />

CarTulebi iyvnen, 30 kalendaruli<br />

dRis vadaSi, seb-isTvis bankis<br />

arasafinanso sferodan etapobrivad,<br />

2015 wlis 31 dekembramde,<br />

gamosvlis detaluri strategia<br />

unda waredginaT.<br />

maSin am regulaciebTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT, eqspertebis SefasebiT,<br />

sruliad sakmarisi dro iyo, rom<br />

procesebs umtkivneulod da<br />

finansuri danakargis gareSe Caevlo.<br />

Tumca, seb-is imdroisTvis,<br />

axal regulaciaSi erTi gza mainc<br />

rCeboda: komerciuli bankebis<br />

aqcionerebs aravin ukrZalavda,<br />

arasabanko sferoSi investiciebi<br />

ganexorcielebinaT, Tuki<br />

am investicias komerciuli<br />

banki ar gascemda. meore mxriv,<br />

amave logikiT, nebismieri komerciuli<br />

bankis aqcioners SeeZlo,<br />

araprofiluri aqtivis saxiT,<br />

giorgi qadagiZe<br />

bankis kuTvnili samSeneblo Tu<br />

sxva tipis kompania gadaeformebina.<br />

marTalia, es kompania bankis<br />

araprofilur aqtivad aRar<br />

CaiTvleboda, samagierod, amave<br />

bankis aqcioneris sakuTrebaSi<br />

darCeboda.<br />

maSin bankebis asociaciis<br />

prezidenti zurab gvasalia ambobda,<br />

rom msgavsi regulaciis<br />

SemoRebis gadaudebeli aucilebloba<br />

namdvilad ar iyo.<br />

erT-erT interviuSi man isic<br />

Tqva, rom araprofiluri aqtivebi<br />

komerciul bankebSi<br />

dalxenili cxovrebis Sedegad<br />

ar gaCenila: „es is kompaniebia,<br />

romlebic bankebSi „CarCnen”,<br />

radgan auqcionze ki gaitanes,<br />

magram myidveli ar gamouCnda.<br />

Sesabamisad, komerciuli bankebi<br />

iZulebulebi iyvnen, am tipis<br />

kompaniebis aqtivebis kapitalizacia<br />

Tavad ganexorcielebinaT.<br />

2008 wlis finansuri<br />

krizisis Semdeg, saqarTvelos<br />

komerciuli bankebi ase<br />

rom ar moqceuliyvnen, saqarTvelos<br />

samSeneblo biznesi bevrad<br />

mZime mdgomareobaSi aRmoCndeboda<br />

da arc SeCerebuli<br />

mSeneblobebi dasruldeboda”.<br />

es rac iyo 2015 wels. axla<br />

rac Seexeba Cvens bazarze umsxvilesi<br />

komerciuli bankebis mier<br />

araprofiluri aqtivebis flobis<br />

Sefasebas.<br />

lia eliava _ ekonomikis<br />

eqsperti:<br />

_ dResac savalalo mdgomareobaa<br />

komerciuli bankebis mxridan<br />

araprofiluri aqtivebis<br />

flobis kuTxiT. is, rac formalurad<br />

2015 wels mogvarda,<br />

`Cven unda davakvirdeT imas, Tu ramdenia sakredito portfeli<br />

depozitebidan, Tu igi (sakredito portfeli, igive gacemuli sesxebi)<br />

ufro metia, vidre depozitebi, vaskvniT, rom bankma garda Tavisi<br />

depozitebisa, gamoiyena saaqcio kapitalis nawili sesxebSi. rogorc wesi,<br />

sakredito portfeli gacilebiT didia, vidre moziduli depozitebi,<br />

radgan banki, am SemTxvevaSi, iyenebs klienturis mimdinare angariSebis<br />

nawils, plus imas, rac saaqcio kapitalSi aqvs. xolo im SemTxvevaSi, Tu<br />

gacemuli sesxebi ufro naklebia, vidre depozitebi, daskvna ideba, rom<br />

banki am depozitebs araprofilur saqmianobaSi iyenebs. magram pirdapir<br />

ver ganasxvaveb, ra Tanxebia gacemul sesxebSi. maxsovs adre erT-erT<br />

banks depozitebis moculoba meti hqonda, vidre gacemuli sesxebi. daisva<br />

kiTxva, Tu sad wavida es Tanxebi? pirvveli: araprofilur biznesSi<br />

(sakuTari kompaniebis SeqmnaSi), is banks ar hqonda; meore: fiqsirebul<br />

aqtivebSi, uZravi qoneba: Senoba, bankomatebi, mowyobilobebi, aveji da a.<br />

S. dadginda, rom es Tanxebi mimarTuli iyo araSemosavlian aqtivebze,<br />

anu uZrav qonebaze, rac, ra Tqma unda, sagangaSo aRmoCnda~<br />

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denime didi banki inawilebs Ti-<br />

Tqmis yvela araprofilur bizness<br />

sabanko seqtorSi da am situaciis<br />

gamosworeba Zalian<br />

rTuli saqmea.<br />

formalurad ki moxda araprofiluri<br />

biznesis gamijvna<br />

komerciuli bankebisgan, magram<br />

realurad yvelam viciT, rom<br />

ori banki (maT Soris, erT-erTi<br />

ufro didi) flobs Zalian bevr<br />

araprofilur bizness. am biznesebis<br />

Seqmna ki Tavidanve<br />

dakavSirebuli iyo am komerciul<br />

bankebTan.<br />

mTavari is aris, rom banki mis<br />

konkurent biznesebs sesxs ar<br />

aZlevs, rac konkurentuli garemos<br />

Seqmnas uSlis xels, dazaralebulebi<br />

Riad acxadeben,<br />

rom bankSi biznesis gafarToebasTan<br />

dakavSirebuli gegma waradgines,<br />

magram sesxi ver miiRes<br />

da aseTi magaliTi uamravia. Tumca<br />

mainc arsebobs sazogadoeba-<br />

Si ganwyoba, rom, realurad, martivad<br />

da sruliad Cveulebrivad<br />

xdeba biznessesxebis gacema, rasac<br />

me ar veTanxmebi.<br />

bankSi biznesisTvis sesxis asa-<br />

Rebad, Tu ar CavTvliT imas, rom<br />

likviduri qoneba unda waradgino<br />

uzrunvelyofaSi, amas emate-<br />

lia eliava<br />

dRes kvlav mougvarebelia.<br />

araprofilur biznesTan dakavSirebiT<br />

komerciul bankebSi<br />

mdgomareoba Zalian rTulia, vinaidan<br />

erovnulma bankma maT sa-<br />

Sualeba misca, TavianTi saqmianoba<br />

SeeniRbaT, raRac sxva iuridiuli<br />

forma gamoenaxaT, magram<br />

es biznesi mainc komerciuli<br />

bankebis xelSia da maTi survilis<br />

SemTxvevaSi komerciul<br />

bankebs naxevari saqarTvelos<br />

yidva SeuZliaT, mTelis Tu ara.<br />

aseve SeuZliaT, yvela im ZiriTadi<br />

sakvanZo ekonomikuri seqtorebis<br />

xelSi Cagdeba, romlebsac<br />

aravis dauTmoben. Sesabamisad,<br />

isini akeTeben imas, rasac maT<br />

erovnuli banki ar ukrZalavs.<br />

kanonSi komerciuli bankebis<br />

saqmianobis Sesaxeb zusti CamonaTvalia<br />

im saqmianobisa, romelic<br />

nebadarTulia komeciuli<br />

bankebisTvis da masSi arsad weria,<br />

rom SeuZliaT akontrolon<br />

da flobdnen im araprofilur<br />

biznesebs, romlebsac dRes<br />

floben. erovnuli banki, faqtobrivad,<br />

Tvals xuWavs xsenebuli<br />

bankebis kanonis miRma saqmianobaze<br />

da amis uflebas aZlevs<br />

maT. ver daadanaSauleb bizness,<br />

roca Seni maregulirebeli amis<br />

uflebas gaZlevs da ratom ga-<br />

Zlevs, es ukve calke gamosaZiebeli<br />

sakiTxia. _ ra interesi<br />

udevs e.b.-s am bankebSi, rom ase,<br />

kanonis miRma uflebebs uzrdis<br />

komerciul bankebs, ra dainteresebaa<br />

e.b.-Si? aris Tu ara iq<br />

raime kriminalis Semadgeneli<br />

elementi? _ es iseTi sakiTxia,<br />

romliTac sagamoZiebo struqtura<br />

unda dainteresdes.<br />

sxva mxriv, rogorc yvelam<br />

viciT, TviTon sabanko seqtorSi<br />

konkurencia ar arsebobs, bazarze<br />

oligopoliaa da maT Seu-<br />

ZliaT, ekonomikis yvela seqtor-<br />

Si mospon konkurencia da, praqtikulad,<br />

TviTon ibatonon _<br />

amis finansuri SesaZlebloba<br />

maT aqvT da saxelmwifo imisTvisaa,<br />

rom ar dauSvas romeliRac<br />

erTi, an ori bankis oligopolia.<br />

sxva bankebs misces moqmedebis<br />

saSualeba. am mxriv saxelmwifo<br />

Zalian moikoWlebs, Zalian.<br />

_ depozitebze arsebuli Tanxebi,<br />

ZiriTadad, raze ixarje-<br />

ba?<br />

_ araprofilur biznesebze,<br />

ra Tqma unda. ratom aris, rom<br />

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`erovnuli banki, faqtobrivad, Tvals<br />

xuWavs xsenebuli bankebis kanonis miRma<br />

saqmianobaze da amis uflebas aZlevs maT.<br />

ver daadanaSauleb bizness, roca Seni<br />

maregulirebeli amis uflebas gaZlevs da<br />

ratom gaZlevs, es ukve calke<br />

gamosaZiebeli sakiTxia. - ra interesi<br />

udevs e.b.-s am bankebSi, rom ase, kanonis<br />

miRma uflebebs uzrdis komerciul<br />

bankebs, ra dainteresebaa e.b.-Si? aris Tu<br />

ara iq raime kriminalis Semadgeneli<br />

elementi? - es iseTi sakiTxia, romliTac<br />

sagamoZiebo struqtura unda<br />

dainteresdes~<br />

mTel msoflioSi komerciul<br />

bankebs akrZaluli aqvT savaWro,<br />

samSeneblo, farmacevtuli saqmianoba?<br />

Tu es biznesi gakotrda,<br />

zarals miayenebs komerciul<br />

banks da mis finansur mdgradobas<br />

Zirs gamouTxris, imitomacaa,<br />

rom msoflioSi yvela maregulirebeli,<br />

garda saqarTvelosi,<br />

ukrZalavs komerciul bankebs<br />

araprofiluri biznesis warmoebas.<br />

diax, es pirdapir moqmedebs<br />

finansur mdgradobaze mTlianad,<br />

iseve, rogorc sabanko seqtorze.<br />

Cveni mosaxleobis mier<br />

depozitebze Senaxuli fuliT,<br />

an mimdinare angariSebiT, komerciuli<br />

bankebis araprofiluri<br />

biznesi sazrdoobs. diax, es asea.<br />

_ da mas Semdeg, rac 2015<br />

wels araprofiluri biznesebis<br />

regulacia SemoiRes, ra Seica-<br />

la?<br />

_ es e.b.-s wina xelisuflebis<br />

dros moxda da axlac grZldeba,<br />

Tumca suraTi igivea.<br />

maT TavianT Svilobil kompaniebs<br />

gadasces araprofiluri biznesi,<br />

es komerciulma bankebma<br />

balansidan moixsnes, magram TavianT<br />

asocirebul, afilirebul<br />

bankebs gadasces, anu, faqtobrivad,<br />

igivea, Sinaarsobrivad ara,<br />

magram forma Seicvala, iuridiuli<br />

forma Seicvala mxolod,<br />

faqtobrivad, ki igive darCa.<br />

da iciT, amas ra saSiSroeba<br />

moaqvs? _ rogorc samSeneblo<br />

seqtorSi komerciulma bankebma<br />

Sewyvites damoukidebeli samSe-<br />

neblo kompaniebis dafinanseba<br />

da mxolod TavianTi kompaniebis<br />

dafinansebaze gadavidnen, ase<br />

SeiZleba yvela seqtorSi moxdes,<br />

anu mxolod TavianTi kompaniebi<br />

daafinanson prioritetulad da<br />

dabal procentSi miscen sesxi,<br />

sxvebs ki uari uTxran, rogorc<br />

potenciur konkurents. es amaxinjebs<br />

qveynis ekonomikur struqturas<br />

da mas araefeqtians xdis.<br />

situaciis Sesacvlelad erovnulma<br />

bankma aseve, damokidebuleba<br />

unda Secvlos am problemisadmi,<br />

risi imedic me, praqtikulad,<br />

ar maqvs.<br />

komerciulma bankebma imxela<br />

finansuri gavlena moipoves sazogadoebaSi,<br />

rom isini karnaxoben<br />

erovnul banks da mTavrobas,<br />

ra gaakeTon! am situaciis<br />

gardatexa Tu ar moxda, saqarTvelo<br />

yovelTvis iqneba CamorCenili<br />

da civilizaciis kudSi<br />

madevari.<br />

`mTavari is aris, rom banki mis konkurent biznesebs sesxs ar aZlevs,<br />

rac konkurentuli garemos Seqmnas uSlis xels, dazaralebulebi<br />

Riad acxadeben, rom bankSi biznesis gafarToebasTan dakavSirebuli<br />

gegma waradgines, magram sesxi ver miiRes da aseTi magaliTi<br />

uamravia. Tumca mainc arsebobs sazogadoebaSi ganwyoba, rom,<br />

realurad, martivad da sruliad Cveulebrivad xdeba biznessesxebis<br />

gacema, rasac me ar veTanxmebi. bankSi biznesisTvis sesxis asaRebad,<br />

Tu ar CavTvliT imas, rom likviduri qoneba unda waradgino<br />

uzrunvelyofaSi, amas emateba is, rom TiTqmis samecniero naSromTan<br />

gaTanabrebuli biznesgegma unda waradgino, - es calke Temaa, anu<br />

bankebi Zalian rTulad gascemen sesxebs biznesze, radgan ar awyobT,<br />

rom konkurentebs asesxon. axla parlamentma ki daiwyo am sakiTxze<br />

muSaoba, rom gamijnon, magram meeWveba, realuri iyos, radgan aqac<br />

Zlieri sabanko lobi imuSavebs, romelic aucileblad<br />

SeewinaaRmdegeba iseTi meqanizmebis Cadebas kanonmdeblobaSi, rac maT<br />

lavirebis SesaZleblobas mouspobs sxvadasxva gziT da arxiT. ara<br />

mgonia, rame Seicvalos, radgan amas Zalian Zlieri da finansurad<br />

welSi gamarTuli mTavroba sWirdeba~<br />

SoTa gulbani _ axalgazrda<br />

finansistTa da biznesmenTa<br />

asociaciis prezidenti:<br />

_ bazarze oligopoliaa. ram-<br />

ba is, rom TiTqmis samecniero<br />

naSromTan gaTanabrebuli biznesgegma<br />

unda waradgino, _ es<br />

calke Temaa, anu bankebi Zalian<br />

rTulad gascemen sesxebs biznesze,<br />

radgan ar awyobT, rom<br />

konkurentebs asesxon.<br />

axla parlamentma ki daiwyo am<br />

sakiTxze muSaoba, rom gamijnon,<br />

magram meeWveba, realuri iyos,<br />

radgan aqac Zlieri sabanko lobi<br />

imuSavebs, romelic aucileblad<br />

SeewinaaRmdegeba iseTi meqanizmebis<br />

Cadebas kanonmdeblobaSi,<br />

rac maT lavirebis SesaZleblobas<br />

mouspobs sxvadasxva gziT da<br />

arxiT. ara mgonia, rame Seicvalos,<br />

radgan amas Zalian Zlieri<br />

da finansurad welSi gamarTuli<br />

mTavroba sWirdeba.<br />

_ 2015 wels Semotanili regulacia?<br />

maSinac xom igive pro-<br />

cesebi mimdinareobda?<br />

_ formalurad darCa. es bankebi<br />

xom arian ukve, samSeneblo,<br />

sadazRveo, farmacevtul sferoebSi<br />

CarTulebi, roca saubroben:<br />

modiT, gavmijnoT profiluri<br />

da araprofiluri biznesebio,<br />

ar aris egre, amas mxolod<br />

bavSvebi daijereben skolaSi. ig-<br />

SoTa gulbani<br />

ive situacia SenarCundeba yovelTvis,<br />

ubralod, kanonmdeblobis<br />

doneze, formalurad Sei-<br />

Zleba gaimijnos, rom bankebis<br />

saqmianoba iyos mxolod is, rac<br />

gansazRvrulia mis saqmianobad<br />

kanoniT komerciuli bankis Sesaxeb.<br />

komerciuli bankebis Sesaxeb<br />

kanonSi ki 30-e muxli mkacrad<br />

aregulirebs, rom banki parametrebs<br />

ar unda gascdes. Tu es<br />

moxda, maSin banks mkacri sasjeli<br />

elodeba, Tumca msgavsi tipis<br />

sasjeli araprofiluri aqtivebis<br />

flobis gamo aravis axsovs<br />

qarTul realobaSi.<br />

faqti ki igivea. mosaxleobis<br />

mier depozitze Senaxuli, an angariSebze<br />

arsebuli TanxebiT<br />

araprofiluri aqtivebi finansdeba,<br />

Tumca amas xom CvenTvis<br />

xeli arasdros SeuSlia, Tavis<br />

droze aviRoT kuTvnili procentebi<br />

bankidan da bankis TanamSromels<br />

vuRimoT maSin (realurad,<br />

is arafer SuaSia), roca<br />

misi zemdgomebi bizness ganvi-<br />

Tarebis saSualebas ar aZleven<br />

da qveynis ekonomikas, ubralod,<br />

anadgureben.<br />

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NDI-is kvlevis SedegebSi<br />

aSS-s erovnul-demokratiuli<br />

Tamar oTiaSvili<br />

institutis dakveTiT saqarTvel-<br />

oSi morigi sazogadoebrivi kvle-<br />

va Catarda da saintereso faqti gamoikveTa. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom moqalaqeebis winaSe mdgari umuSevrobis problema 2009<br />

wlidan ucvlelia da qveynis ZiriTad problemas warmoadgens,<br />

gaufasurebuli larisa da mZime socialur-ekonomikuri mdgo-<br />

mareobis fonze, sainteresoa, rom qveynis binadarni am wels<br />

optimisturad uyureben.<br />

aSS-s erovnul-demokratiuli<br />

institutis (NDI) dakveTiT, sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris kvlevisas, romelic<br />

kavkasiis kvleviTi resursebis<br />

centrma (CRRC), saparlamento<br />

arCevnebis Semdeg, 2016 wlis 4<br />

noembridan 4 dekembris periodSi,<br />

Caatara, aRmoCnda, rom saqarTvelos<br />

winaSe mdgari mniSvnelovani<br />

erovnuli problemebis Tanmimdevroba<br />

2009 wlidan ucvlelia:<br />

umuSevroba, fasebis zrda, siRaribe,<br />

darRveuli teritoriuli<br />

mTlianoba da dabali xelfasebi.<br />

saqarTvelos mTavari erovnuli<br />

problema kvlav umuSevrobaa<br />

– aseTia gamokiTxulTa 47%-is<br />

azri (saqarTvelos masStabiT,<br />

sul, 3,141 moqalaqe gamoikiTxa),<br />

Tumca 2016 wlis zafxulTan SedarebiT<br />

(53%), es monacemi 6%-iT<br />

Semcirda. amasTan, gamokiTxulTa<br />

66% dausaqmeblad miiCnevs Tavs.<br />

meore adgilze, 36%-iT, fasebis<br />

zrda dgas, siRaribe 30%-iT mesame<br />

adgilzea, meoTxe-mexuTe adgils<br />

ki, Sesabamisad, teritoriuli<br />

mTlianoba (27%) da pensiebi (24%)<br />

ikavebs.<br />

statistikis erovnuli samsaxuris<br />

monacemebi NDI-is kvlevisgan<br />

mkveTrad gansxvavdeba, Tundac<br />

umuSevrobis TvalsazrisiT. statistikurad,<br />

mosaxleobis mxolod<br />

12%-ia dausaqmebeli (2015 w.),<br />

NDI-is kvlevis mixedviT ki _ 66%.<br />

miuxedavad arsebuli proble-<br />

mebisa, rogorc CRRC-is prezi-<br />

denti koba TurmaniZe aRniSnavs,<br />

bolo kvlevaSi mosaxleobis op-<br />

timizmi gamoikveTa: „meti xalxi<br />

moelis, rom maTi mdgomareoba<br />

gaumjobesdeba uaxloes erT weliwadSi,<br />

vidre moeloda 2016<br />

wlis dasawyisSi, an SuaSi”.<br />

ras SeiZleba emyarebodes mosaxleobis<br />

optimisturi ganwyoba?<br />

ramdenad sandoa NDI-is kv-<br />

levebi?<br />

am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />

„qronika+”-ma es kiTxva sxvadasxva<br />

sferos warmomadgenels daus-<br />

va.<br />

soso arCvaZe _ eqsperti:<br />

_ Tu oficialur statistikur<br />

monacemebs davujerebT (arada,<br />

sxva oficialuri wyaro axla Cven<br />

ar gvaqvs, imitom, rom garkveul<br />

kvlevebs legitimaciis done, xarisxi<br />

aklia. yvelas aqvs inflaciis,<br />

umuSevrobis, keTildReobisa<br />

da ase Semdeg aRqma, magram saSualo<br />

maCvenebeli statistikas gamohyavs),<br />

iq Cans, rom mosaxleobis<br />

Semosavlebi, maT Soris, fuladi,<br />

TviT inflaciis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />

realur ganzomilebaSi, ramdenadme<br />

izrdeba, amitom ar gamovricxav,<br />

rom am faqtormac imuSava<br />

da garkveuli roli Seasrula.<br />

sasworis pinaze gadawona _ visac<br />

28<br />

giorgi axvlediani<br />

miaCnia, rom mdgomareoba gaumjobesda,<br />

imasTan SedarebiT, vinc<br />

fiqrobs, rom gauaresda; maTi<br />

ricxvi ki, visac hgonia, rom mdgomareoba<br />

ar Secvlila, sakmarisad<br />

didia. mTavaric esaa, saSualo fena<br />

da aqcentic amaze unda gakeTdes,<br />

raTa es wili iyos mcire da<br />

pozitiuri veqtori _ gamokveTili.<br />

maSin ukeTesobisken ufro<br />

myari daskvnis SesaZlebloba gveqneba.<br />

axla, faqtobrivad, Tu, vTqvaT,<br />

17%-is azriT mdgomareoba<br />

gaumjobesda, 15% ki fiqrobs, rom<br />

gauaresda, 2%-iani dadebiTi<br />

maCvenebeli arafers niSnavs, imitom,<br />

rom mainc didi masa, 70%-ze<br />

meti, acxadebs, rom maTi mdgomareoba<br />

saerTod ar Secvlila da<br />

roca mdgomareoba ar icvleba, es<br />

minusSi unda CavTvaloT.<br />

rac Seexeba sandoobis faqtors<br />

NDI-is kvlevebTan dakavSirebiT,<br />

vfiqrob, cudi ar iqneboda,<br />

rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebamac<br />

igive statistikis erovnul<br />

samsaxurs daavalos analogiuri<br />

alternatiuli kvlevis Catareba<br />

da es informacia dados. rodesac<br />

NDI atarebs kvlevas, Cven xom viciT<br />

misi perioduloba, Sinaarsi,<br />

Tematika, ramden respondentTan<br />

aqvs kavSiri da a. S. ratom ar Sei-<br />

Zleba, es Cvenma xelisuflebamac<br />

gaakeTos? mere yvelaferi gamoCndeba,<br />

imitom, rom TviT umuSevrobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT bevri gansxvavebuli<br />

damokidebulebaa monacemebTan.<br />

martivad getyviT:<br />

gamokiTxulTa 66%-ma Tqva, rom<br />

umuSevrad miiCnevs Tavs, magram<br />

statistika mxolod 15 welze zemoT<br />

iTvlis mosaxleobas 64-wlis<br />

CaTvliT. pensionerebi ar ganekuTvnebian<br />

ekonomikurad aqtiur<br />

mosaxleobas, ar ganekuTvnebian,<br />

aseve, diasaxlisebi, dRis swavlebis<br />

studentebi, patimrebi, qronikuli<br />

avadmyofebi, SezRuduli SesaZleblobis<br />

mqone pirebi da ra<br />

vici, bevris CamoTvla SeiZleba.<br />

amitom, jamurad, 15 wlis zemoT,<br />

daaxloebiT, 60%-ia ekonomikurad<br />

aqtiuri mosaxleoba da 40% _<br />

araaqtiuri. 60%-dan 12% umuSevaria<br />

da is 40%, Tu SevekiTxebiT,<br />

ra Tqma unda, gvetyvis, _ ara, ar<br />

vmuSaobo. zogs asakiT ar ekuTvnis<br />

muSaoba, zogs _ janmrTelobis<br />

mdgomareobis gamo, zogi diasaxlisia<br />

da ar ganekuTvneba ekonomikurad<br />

aqtiur mosaxleobas.<br />

mokled, statistika iZleva 12%-s<br />

da NDI-s kvleva _ 66%-s, magram Tu<br />

sxvanairad davTvliT, maSin cdomileba,<br />

ra Tqma unda, gacilebiT<br />

naklebi iqneba.<br />

giorgi axvlediani _ „demok-<br />

ratiuli moZraoba _ erTiani<br />

saqarTvelo”:<br />

_ NDI-is kvlevebTan mimarTebiT<br />

Zalian didi skepticizmi maqvs. mimaCnia,<br />

rom, saerTod, NDI-is kvleva<br />

aranairad ar emsaxureba sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris gamokvlevas.<br />

es aris ara kvleva, aramed sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris formirebis mcdeloba,<br />

anu es aris is instrumenti,<br />

romliTac, am SemTxvevaSi, SeerTebuli<br />

Statebis demokratiuli<br />

partia (NDI-i misi institutia)<br />

cdilobs, qarTulma sazogadoebam<br />

ise<br />

ifiqros, rogorc<br />

mas unda;<br />

qarTul<br />

sazogadoe<br />

b a s<br />

Camouy-<br />

soso arCvaZe<br />

SoTa gulbani<br />

alibdes gemovneba, hqondes<br />

garkveuli xedvebi. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, maTi kvlevebi TanxvedraSi<br />

arasodes yofila yvelaze realur<br />

kvlevasTan, rogoric<br />

arCevnebia. Sors rom ar wavideT,<br />

bolo arCevnebi amis naTeli magaliTia.<br />

praqtikulad, maTi arc<br />

erTi prognozi arc erT politikur<br />

partiasTan mimarTebiT ar<br />

emTxveoda, absoluturi acdenebi<br />

iyo yvela realur SedegTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, rac pirdapirproporciulad<br />

metyvelebs,<br />

rom, rogorc giTxariT, NDI-is kvleva<br />

aris ara kvleva, aramed sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris formirebis<br />

mcdeloba da sanam Cven mas saSualebas<br />

mivcemT, rom Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

sazogadoebrivi azris aseTi<br />

manipulireba da mis formirebaze<br />

garkveuli zegavlena moaxdinos,<br />

is amas ganaxorcielebs. arada, am<br />

dros saqarTveloSi sociologiis<br />

uzarmazari resursia.<br />

rac Seexeba optimizms, getyviT,<br />

rom aq araferi gansakuTebulad<br />

sakvlevi ar aris, qarTveli<br />

kaci bunebiT optimistia da, saer-<br />

Tod, optimizmi, es aris Zala,<br />

romelic adamians urTules<br />

pirobebSi aZlebinebs. optimizmi<br />

rom ar hqondes, nebismieri sirTulis<br />

winaSe, praqtikulad, ganadgurdeboda.<br />

amitom, rac unda<br />

rTuli viTareba iyos Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

ekonomikuri, laris kursis<br />

da a. S. TvalsazrisiT, adamianuri<br />

optimizmi mainc Zlieria.<br />

SoTa gulbani _ „axalgazrda<br />

finansistTa da biznesmenTa aso-<br />

ciacia”:<br />

_ zogadad, Cemi midgoma NDI-is<br />

proeqtTan dakavSirebiT cota<br />

subieqturia. ara mgonia, rom isini<br />

Tavad wyvetdnen sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris garkvevasTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT mniSvnelovan sakiTxebs.<br />

zeda donezea es yvelaferi SeTanxmebuli.<br />

NDI-i amerikuli organizaciaa<br />

da maTi mxridan erTgvari<br />

mesijia, rom unda SenarCundes<br />

mTavroba, romelic mocemul<br />

etapze qveyanas marTavs. Sesabamisad,<br />

am kvlevaSi unda dafiqsirebuliyo,<br />

rom, ase vTqvaT, xalxis<br />

umetesobas moswons aRebuli kursi<br />

da optimisturad aris ganwyobili.<br />

uaryofiTi Sedegi rom dafiqsirebuliyo,<br />

es pirdapir mianiSnebda<br />

imaze, rom amerika ar aris<br />

mxardamWeri im mTavrobis, romelic<br />

Cvens saxelmwifos, am etapze,<br />

hyavs. es aris yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />

faqtori am kvlevidan, sxva<br />

danarCeni meorexarisxovania. piarspecialistebs<br />

rom hkiTxoT, iq<br />

Zalian didi cdomilebaa da sandoobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT bevri ki-<br />

Txvis niSani Cndeba am organizaciis<br />

Catarebul kvlevebTan mimarTebiT.<br />

amerikuli organizacia<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobas eubneba,<br />

am etapze Cven varT Tqveni megobrebi<br />

da Tqven unda marToT qveyana,<br />

imitom, rom xalxi fiqrobs<br />

ase. mocemulobaa aseTi, rac<br />

Sesabamisad imas niSnavs,<br />

rom garkveuli periodis<br />

ganmavlobaSi mTavrobis<br />

cvlilebas ar unda<br />

velodoT.<br />

28 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.

maka mosiaSvili<br />

599 97 25 55<br />

vano galaxvariZe 2010 wlidan<br />

Telavis TviTmmarTvelobaSi sakrebulos wevria. igi aras-<br />

dros yofila saxelisuflebo rgolis warmomadgeneli,<br />

yovelTvis umciresobaSi gaxldaT. bolo mowvevis sakrebulo-<br />

Si sofel kondolis maJoritari deputati iyo. aseve xelmZR-<br />

vanelobda fraqcias. saparlamento arCevnebis dasrulebis<br />

Semdeg saqarTvelo datova da am droisTvis amerikis SeerTe-<br />

bul StatebSi cxovrobs. ambobs, rom saqarTveloSi poli-<br />

tikuri devnis obieqtad iqca da iZulebuli gaxda, qveyana da-<br />

etovebina, raTa mis ojaxs mis gamo problemebi ar Seqmnoda.<br />

„qronika+”-s vano galaxvariZe<br />

esaubreba:<br />

_ sakmaod grZeli politikuri<br />

cxovrebis gza gaiareT, Tumca,<br />

miuxedavad mravali uTanxmoebisa,<br />

qveyana arasdros dagi-<br />

tovebiaT.<br />

_ diax. 2004-2006 wlebSi „konservatiuli<br />

partiis” Telavis<br />

organizaciis Tavmjdomare viyavi,<br />

2006 wels adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

arCevnebSic viyare<br />

kenWi, Tumca, rogorc xdeba xolme,<br />

xmebis gayalbebiT maSin sakrebuloSi<br />

ver movxvdi. 2008 wlis<br />

martidan „qristian demokratebis”<br />

wevri viyavi, anu daarsebis<br />

dRidan. 2010 wels kenWi viyare<br />

TviTmmarTvelobis adgilobriv<br />

arCevnebSi da sakrebulos deputati<br />

gavxdi, 2012 wlamde ufleba<br />

ar momces, rom saerTo politikur<br />

Tanamoazreebs fraqcia<br />

Segveqmna. mwared maxsendeba is<br />

periodi, radgan Cvens arc erT<br />

iniciativas arc ki ismendnen. 2014<br />

wels ukve „qristian demokratebi”<br />

nino burjanaZes SeuerTdnen<br />

da swored am gaerTianebuli partiidan<br />

viyare kenWi Telavis Temis<br />

municipalitetis adgilobriv<br />

TviTmmarTvelobaSi sofel kondolidan,<br />

sadac xmebis 70%-ze<br />

meti miviRe. Sesabamisad, sakrebuloSic<br />

movxvdi da fraqciis<br />

Tavmjdomarec viyavi.<br />

2016 wels gadavwyvite, saparlamento<br />

arCevnebSi meyara kenWi<br />

da burWulaZis partiidan Semo-<br />

Tavazeba miviRe, saidanac viyare<br />

kidec kenWi da ai, maSin daiwyo,<br />

Tu daiwyo Cemi da Cemi axloblebis<br />

Seviwroeba. sabolood, cnobilia,<br />

rom TelavSi sesiaSvilma<br />

gaimarjva, me ki saqarTvelo davtove,<br />

radgan, ubralod, Cemi iq<br />

darCena aRar SeiZleboda.<br />

_ ufro konkretulad, ra<br />

mizeziT datoveT qveyana?!<br />

_ „ocnebis” warmomadgenlebisTvis<br />

Tavidanve miuRebeli viyavi.<br />

Tu Tvals gadaavlebT da sakrebulos<br />

sxdomebs naxavT, advilad<br />

mixvdebiT, ra Seurigebeli brZo-<br />

la mqonda adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />

TavgasulobasTan, amavdroulad,<br />

guberniidan miRebul<br />

miTiTebebs vakritikebdi. magaliTad,<br />

maxsovs, rom guberniam,<br />

kerZod, gubernatorma, davaleba<br />

gasca, Telavis Temis municipalitets<br />

1 milionad Sefasebuli<br />

mZime transporti „kamacu” droebiT<br />

sargeblobaSi gadascemoda,<br />

romelic biujetidan seriozul<br />

dafinansebas iTxovda da isedac<br />

mwiri Semosavlebisa da biujetis<br />

fonze SeuZlebeli iyo sxvis sakuTrebaSi<br />

arsebuli nivTis movla-partonoba.<br />

e. i. Cven Cvens moqalaqeebs<br />

jibidan fuls varTmevdiT.<br />

maSin sakiTxi davayene, _<br />

an gvaCuqon, an Tavad mouaron...<br />

sanacvlod sakrebulom ar damijera,<br />

Tumca Cemma uaxloesma<br />

adamianebma gamafrTxiles, rom<br />

gubernatori Cemi gamosvliT ganrisxda<br />

da damemuqra, _ Tu WkuiT<br />

ar moviqceodi, Cems fraqcias<br />

daSlidnen.<br />

_ anu gubernatori gebrZo-<br />

daT?<br />

_ piradad CemTvis arasdros<br />

araferi uTqvams. me ar vici, igi<br />

mebrZoda Tu misi saxeliT sxvebi,<br />

Tumca roca gadavwyvite, saparlamento<br />

arCevnebSi kenWi meyara,<br />

fraqciis erT-erTma wevrma<br />

miTxra, rom guberniisa da adgilobrivi<br />

xelisuflebis zewoliT<br />

fraqcia datova, ramac kanonmdeblobiT<br />

fraqciis daSla gamoiwvia.<br />

ra Tqma unda, es iyo mizanmimarTuli<br />

qmedeba, rom xelfasi<br />

ar mqonoda, adamianebs ki daenaxaT,<br />

rom damsajes... samagierod,<br />

sxvebisTvis gamxdariyo magaliTi,<br />

rom maTac mouwevdaT dasja da<br />

Cem gverdiT yvela adamiani daisjeboda.<br />

asec moxda, _ Cemi Zveli<br />

megobrebi Tu Tanamoazreebi<br />

yvela cdilobda, CemTan urTier-<br />

Tobas morideboda, radgan maT<br />

konkretulad sTxovdnen, rom<br />

CemTan aranairi komunikacia ar<br />

hqonodaT, problemebi SeeqmnebodaT<br />

samsaxurebrivadac da sxva<br />

mxriv. siamayiT aRvniSnav, rom er-<br />

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vano galaxvariZe:<br />

`mwared<br />

maxsendeba is<br />

periodi, radgan<br />

arc erT Cvens<br />

iniciativas arc<br />

ki ismendnen~<br />

TaderTi adamiani, sakrebulos<br />

wevri (Tumca, _ ara Cemi fraqciis),<br />

magram Cemi Tanamoazre, zaza<br />

raibuli, Cem gamo araerTxel gaafrTxiles<br />

da riskis qveS aRmoCnda,<br />

magram man Tavis principebs ar<br />

uRalata da bolomde gverdiT<br />

medga erTgulad. finalSi arCevnebi<br />

wavage. meore turis CaniSvnamde<br />

TviTmmarTvelobis erTerTi<br />

maRalCinosani damikavSirda<br />

da maRal Tanamdebobaze samsaxuri<br />

SemomTavaza. Cveni molaparakeba<br />

ver Sedga im erTi martivi<br />

mizezis gamo, rom me ar SemeZlo<br />

im partiis kandidatis dasaxmareblad<br />

memuSava, romeli partiac<br />

qveyanas dRiTi dRe Rupavs.<br />

mxolod erT winadadebas vambob<br />

ukve aTeuli welia: „qveyana<br />

iRupeba, vuSveloT, xalxo!” magram,<br />

samwuxarod, bolo ar Cans.<br />

swored amas mohyva Cemi dabareba<br />

saxelmwifo auditSi, sadac, ZiriTadad,<br />

mekiTxebodnen, saidan<br />

vfinansdebodi, ra Tanxebi mqonda<br />

daxarjuli saarCevnod, anu<br />

Semosavlebisa da gasavlis damalvis<br />

dabraleba undodaT... imave<br />

periodSi gamafrTxilebeli Setyobineba<br />

miviRe: „vano, frTxilad!”<br />

da mivxvdi, _ Cem dasasjelad<br />

ukve yvelaferze iqnebodnen wamsvlelebi.<br />

_ dRes sad xarT?<br />

_ dRes ukve amerikaSi var mec<br />

da Cemi kolega megobari zaza<br />

raibulic.<br />

_ sabolood waxvediT?<br />

_ ara, gvaiZules, qveyana dagvetovebina...<br />

ramdenime adamianma<br />

arCevnebis dasrulebis Semdeg<br />

gagvafrTxila, rom sus-Si muSavdeboda<br />

gegma, rogor unda davepatimrebineT<br />

da Cvenze sisxlis<br />

samarTlis danaSauli SeeTiTxnaT.<br />

aseve, im Cvenma keTilis msurvelebma<br />

gvirCies, droulad<br />

dagvetovebina qveyana da amiT<br />

mainc gadagverCina Tavi.<br />

_ ratom? ratom unda aReZraT<br />

saqme?<br />

_ ver xvdebiT, ra xdeba saqarTveloSi?<br />

samagaliTo dasja<br />

iwyeba, vinc xelisuflebis azris<br />

winaaRmdeg wava, yvela daisjeba.<br />

_ zaza raibulsac igive<br />

uTxres?<br />

_ igive gaumeores.<br />

_ SegiZliaT daakonkretoT,<br />

vin geubnebodaT?<br />

_ Cven saqarTveloSi ojaxebi<br />

gvyavs, rac imas niSnavs, rom maTi<br />

usafrTxoeba CvenTvis axla mTavaria,<br />

amitom, am etapze, im adamianebis<br />

vinaobas ver vasajaroebT,<br />

Tumca yvelafers Tavisi dro<br />

aqvs. odesRac Cvenc davbrundebiT<br />

da simarTles vityviT.<br />

_ zaza raibuli sxva fraqci-<br />

is Tavmjdomare iyo, kerZod,<br />

„mrewvelebis” da sxva politik-<br />

ur organizacias warmoadgenda,<br />

Tumca, rogorc ambobT, masac<br />

aseve devnidnen...<br />

_ zaza raibuli Cemi megobaria<br />

da is swored Cemi megobrobis<br />

gamo araerTxel gaafrTxiles.<br />

saqarTvelo is qveyanaa, sadac megobroba<br />

dasjadia. mere ra, rom<br />

is sxva fraqciisa da politikuri<br />

organizaciis warmomadgeneli<br />

iyo?! ggoniaT, es rames niSnavs?<br />

da ra ggoniaT, im politikuri<br />

organizaciisTvis vano galaxvariZe<br />

misaRebi iyo? bunebrivia, _<br />

ara.<br />

_ dabolos, ras etyodiT<br />

Tqvens amomrCevels, vinc, Tavis<br />

droze, agirCiaT?<br />

_ maqsimalurad Sevecade, rom<br />

yvela Tqvenganis ufleba damecva,<br />

Txovna Semesrulebina, magram<br />

SeuZlebeli ver SevZeli... sanam<br />

qveyanas saxelisuflebo rgoli<br />

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vici, ra gveSveleba, davtove saqarTvelo<br />

da Cems amomrCevelTan<br />

erTad davtove Cemi ojaxic. ra<br />

iqneba xval, zeg?! aucileblad<br />

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siyvarulisTvis isjebian.<br />

Telavis Temis municipalitet-<br />

Si aRniSnul Temaze komentars ar<br />

akeTeben. sakrebuloSi ki gangvimartes,<br />

rom sakrebulos deputats<br />

kanonmdeblobiT SeuZlia,<br />

samsaxurSi da sakrebulos sxdomebze<br />

6 Tve ar gamocxaddes, es<br />

kanonmdeblobiT dadgenilia. Sesabamisad,<br />

romeli deputati sad<br />

aris, ar ician da, am etapze, arc<br />

interesdebian. gagonili aqvT,<br />

rom galaxvariZem da raibulma<br />

qveyana datoves, Tumca deputatebs<br />

sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris-<br />

Tvis ar miumarTavT, Sesabamisad,<br />

verc maT uflebamosilebaze imsjeleben.<br />

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magram vxvdebodi, rom mainc uars<br />

metyodnen da sxva raRacas moimizezebdnen.<br />

gamgeobam es gadawyvetileba<br />

ar gaasaCivra, e. i. sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebas daeTanxma,<br />

magram, paralelurad, prokuraturaSi<br />

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TaRliTurad mivitace. gamoZieba<br />

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miTxres, cixeSi wasvla mogiwevso.<br />

ar davTme, mec magrad davdeqi! _<br />

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hqonda, rom iq mawerinebda xels<br />

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amasobaSi, meoredac dagvibares,<br />

Tan gveubnebian, zustad 10:00 saa-<br />

Tze modiTo, sxva dros es ar uTqvamT.<br />

Turme, ratom _ gamgeblis<br />

moadgile, mamuli mamulaSvili,<br />

romelic zaqaria qucnaSvilis mar-<br />

es saqme zaqaria qucnaSvils ver<br />

gaukeTa, radgan ar davTmeT! amis<br />

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yvela mtkicebuleba davde,<br />

rom arafer SuaSi viyavi da es miwis<br />

nakveTi jer sxvaze iyo gaformebuli<br />

da mere Sevisyide. visganac<br />

Sevisyide, es kaci Cvens mxares<br />

dadga, magram policiam SeaSina da<br />

isic Cvenze gabrazda, _ ratom gamixadeT<br />

saqme ise, rom policiaSi<br />

matarebTo? dRes iseTi gamwarebu-<br />

naTela mamulaSvili:<br />

`TianeTelebi<br />

rogor vifiqrebdiT,<br />

rom zaqaria<br />

qucnaSvili aseTi<br />

mZarcveli<br />

gamodgeboda?!~<br />

yeb, rom Cvens korpuss Zalian didi<br />

SemoRobili ezo hqonda. maSindelma<br />

aRmaskomis Tavmjdomarem nebar-<br />

Tva mogvca, rom iq avtofarexebi<br />

mogvewyo. Tumca Semdeg gaWirvebis<br />

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da saxsrebi ar gvqonda, agve-<br />

Senebina. dokumenti, rom 40 ojaxs<br />

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gamoyofili hqonda, dResac gvaqvs.<br />

Cveni quCis mxares 11-metriani<br />

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kanonierad Sevisyide registrirebuli<br />

70 kv.m. farTis miwa, sadac<br />

ori patara oTaxis aSeneba davapire.<br />

miwis Sesyidva moxda 2012<br />

wlis zafxulSi, arCevnebamde. „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis” mxardamWeri viyavi,<br />

TianeTSi deputatobis kandidati<br />

zaqaria qucnaSvili iyo, biZina<br />

ivaniSvilma Camogviyvana da ras<br />

warmovidgendiT, rom aseTi mZarcveli<br />

gamodgeboda?!<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ imas, rom zaqaria qucnaSvilma<br />

TianeTs gadaxeda-gadmoxeda, es<br />

adgilebi moewona, xalxmravalia<br />

ba ameSenebina, uari gamomicxada. am<br />

profiliT vmuSaob, yvela norma<br />

da wesi vici, vusabuTebdi, rom<br />

ukanonod meubnebodnen uars. amas<br />

rom mivwerdi, mere uars sxva<br />

mizeziT meubnebodnen. mokled, vxvdebodi,<br />

rom mizanmimarTulad ar<br />

maSenebinebdnen. paralelurad,<br />

xmebi momdioda, rom es adgili da<br />

Sida ezo zaqaria qucnaSvils undoda.<br />

avdeqi da sasamarTlos mivmarTe.<br />

sasamarTlom gadawyvetileba<br />

Cem sasargeblod gamoitana da<br />

gamgeoba gaamtyuna. es brZola 2014<br />

wels daiwyo. rodesac uars meubnebodnen,<br />

ra ar movimoqmede, 2015<br />

wels sasamarTlosac mivmarTe,<br />

movige, magram araferi gamomivida.<br />

patara Senoba unda aSenebuliyo<br />

(es gaxlavT pirveli klasis Senoba,<br />

nebarTva da proeqti ar sWirdeboda,<br />

Tavis droze, esec ukanonod<br />

momTxoves, rom gamekeTebina).<br />

avdeqi da am kanonis moSveliebiT<br />

daviwye mSenebloba. rogorc ki<br />

dainaxes, maSinve gafrTxileba momitanes<br />

jarimebis muqariT da dawyebuli<br />

mSenebloba Cemi xeliT damangrevines.<br />

amis Semdeg isev sasa-<br />

cias daavala, rom SeveSinebine da<br />

es adgili dameTmo. am teritoriaze<br />

ramdenime savaWro jixuri<br />

dgas, sadac wvrilmani saqoneli iyideba.<br />

sasamarTlo procesze<br />

Tqves, mTliani teritoria gamgeobas<br />

undao. sinamdvileSi, gamgebels<br />

vin hkiTxavs? _ gamgebeli<br />

zaqaria qucnaSvils uyurebs TvalebSi<br />

da is rasac ubrZanebs, imas<br />

akeTebs. kiTxva rom davsvi, _ ras<br />

uzamT am jixurebis patronebsmeTqi?<br />

_ kompensacias miscemen da<br />

magaTac aiRebeno. ukve gasagebi<br />

iyo yvelaferi...<br />

_ policiis mxridan zewola<br />

axseneT, riT gamoixateboda?<br />

_ me da kidev erTi qalbatoni,<br />

romelic saqmeSi Cemi partnioria,<br />

policiaSi ramdenjerme dagvibares<br />

da verbalurad Zaladobdnen,<br />

fizikurad ver Segvexen, magram policiis<br />

ufrosis moadgile magidasTan<br />

furcels mimarjvebda, _<br />

dawere axlave da gaauqme es registracia,<br />

eg adgili daTme, Torem,<br />

Senze saqmea aRZruli jgufuri<br />

TaRliTobis braldebiTo. safuZvlad<br />

mZime danaSauli damides da<br />

jvena xelia, mouravad hyavs daniSnuli<br />

da misi xeliT akeTebs, tenderebia<br />

Tu sxva saqme. Cven vsxedvarT<br />

policiis ufrosis moadgilis<br />

kabinetSi, igi gvemuqreba, gva-<br />

Zalebs, muqariT fsiqologiur zewolas<br />

axdens. es kari pirdapir<br />

uyurebs policiis ufrosis kabinetis<br />

kars. davinaxeT, rom mamuli<br />

fexakrebiT Sevida policiis ufrosTan.<br />

zustad 10:00 saaTisTvis<br />

imitom dagvibares, rom zaqaria<br />

qucnaSvilisTvis epatakebinaT,<br />

SevaSineT da daTmeso. ar davTmeT!<br />

Semdeg miviyvane uflebadamcveli,<br />

advokati mamuka tuskaZe, masac<br />

Zalian uxeSad moeqcnen. mamukam<br />

uTxra, _ nu ZaladobT, sityvierad<br />

iqneba es Tu fizikurad, ra<br />

mniSvneloba aqvs, ar SeiZlebao. am<br />

dros policiis ufrosis moadgile,<br />

beso berianiZe, romelic, sxvaTa<br />

Soris, mere samsaxuridan<br />

gauSves „nacionalebis” faruli<br />

agentobis motiviT, gadmodga da<br />

gveubneba, _ sul erTia, Tqven<br />

mainc waxvalT cixeSi da 7 wlamde<br />

patimroba gemuqrebaTo. mamuli ki<br />

Sevida policiis ufrosTan, magram<br />

lia, axlos ver vekarebiT, kontaqtze<br />

aRar gamodis. amis Semdeg<br />

mosamarTles mtkicebuleba davude,<br />

rom am kacis saxelze 2800<br />

kv.m. miwa unda iyos sakuTrebaSi, am<br />

farTobSi 5 nakveTi aqvs daregistrirebuli,<br />

amonawerebi me TviTon<br />

amoviRe da daTvla vTxove. _ 2799<br />

kv.m. aqvs daregistrirebuli, 1 kv.m.<br />

kidev hmarTebs saxelmwifos da me<br />

romeli saxelmwifo sakuTreba miviTvise-meTqi?<br />

es mtkicebulad miiRo<br />

mosamarTlem, raRas medavebian<br />

an me, an im kacs?! amis Semdeg<br />

procesebi SeCerda da es saqme<br />

Taroze Semodes, brals ver mdeben.<br />

sasamarTlos imedi maqvs. ar mgonia,<br />

ise bnelodes, rom zaqaria<br />

qucnaSvilis TxovniT usamarTlo<br />

gadawyvetileba miiRon, magram<br />

prokuraturas daavala, romelmac<br />

aSkara cru da SeTiTxnili braldeba<br />

dagvido. im saqmeSi imdeni<br />

niuansi iyo, Tundac is, rom gamo-<br />

Ziebam Tvali daxuWa beWedze da xelmoweraze,<br />

romliTac adgilobrivi<br />

rwmunebuli Tanxmobas aZlevda,<br />

rom es adgili im kacze daregistrirebuliyo,<br />

es ar dainaxes.<br />

30<br />

30 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.

mokled, axla procesebi SeCerebulia,<br />

magram saqme prokuraturaSi<br />

devs da msvleloba midis.<br />

_ amiT Tqven imas ambobT, rom<br />

gamgeobis meSveobiT gebrZviT<br />

zaqaria qucnaSvili? ra interesi<br />

aqvs Tqvens deputats, rom es miwa<br />

wagarTvaT?<br />

_ diax, asea! Cven gverdiT qucnaSvilma<br />

sastumro aaSena, Tumca,<br />

oficialurad, misi saxeli da<br />

gvari ar figurirebs. rodesac naxes,<br />

rom es farTi ver damaTmobines,<br />

SuaSi var gaCxerili da mTlian<br />

zols veRar miierTebda, korpusis<br />

Sida ezo, 7200 kv.m., romelzedac<br />

nebarTva gvaqvs, rom avtosadgomebi<br />

mogvewyo, is Semoixaza da am sastumros<br />

miaerTa, saxelmwifos sakuTreba<br />

daarqva, rom qucnaSvilis<br />

gvari ar gamoCeniliyo da arasasoflo<br />

uwoda, anu miwas kategoria<br />

Seucvales. manamde arsad Canda,<br />

Tavisufali teritoria iyo: odes-<br />

Rac SemoRobili gvqonda, stadioni<br />

iyo mowyobili, bavSvebi Tama-<br />

Sobdnen, frenburTis moedani iyo<br />

mowyobili. gaWirvebis wlebi rom<br />

gvedga, maSin ganadgurda, boZebic<br />

ki moipares. Riad rom iyo, moixaza<br />

es adgili da miierTa. amis garda,<br />

TianeTSi, xuT adgilze, yvelaze<br />

kargi adgilebi sadac moewona,<br />

yvelgan ase daarqva _ saxelmwifo<br />

sakuTreba _ da TavisTvis gaimzada.<br />

adgilebs gaCvenebT, sadac TianeTis<br />

municipalitetis soflebs<br />

miwebi waarTva, gaWirvebuli raionia,<br />

xalxi ukiduresad gaRaribebulia.<br />

naxirs rom garekavdnen tye-<br />

Si, sadac carieli adgilebia datovebuli,<br />

yvelgan Semoixaza.<br />

_ Tqvenma mezoblebma ar idav-<br />

es?<br />

_ korpusis mcxovreblebma, amxanagobam<br />

davwereT gancxadeba da<br />

am miwis ukan dabrunebaze vdaobT.<br />

ekonomikis saministros vedavebiT,<br />

ra ufleba hqonda, rom miwis kategoria<br />

Secvala, arc ki movida da<br />

SegvekiTxa? xelmowerebiT dafiqsirebulia,<br />

sadac Cemi gvaric figurirebs<br />

da es saqme sasamarTloSi<br />

SevitaneT. sasamarTlom warmoeba-<br />

Si miiRo, oRond procesebi jer ar<br />

dawyebula. zaqaria qucnaSvilma<br />

TianeTSi iseTi raRacebi Caidina,<br />

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am adamianma TavzexelaRebulad<br />

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mainc. ratom unda imalebodes ase-<br />

Ti saqmeebi?! sxva SemTxvevac iyo,<br />

trasis gaswvriv obolma Zmebma miwa<br />

gainawiles, ori nakveTi daregistrirda,<br />

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rom eg erTi, gzis pirze romelic<br />

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Torem saqmes prokuraturaSi dagidebTo.<br />

isic vici, visac daarekina,<br />

magram amjerad ar davasaxeleb.<br />

uceb davreke Cems uflebebis damcvelTan,<br />

mamuka tuskaZesTan, Sesa-<br />

Zlebelia, telefoniTac moismines<br />

saubari, meti am nakveTs aRar Sexebian.<br />

mamukam im biWs daureka da<br />

uTxra, _ Tu kidev movidnen, gadmomirekeo<br />

da iq gaCerda es ambavi,<br />

magram Cems saqmes ukve msvleloba<br />

hqonda micemuli da kidev gr-<br />

Zeldeba. 15 agvistos Semdeg arc<br />

erTi procesi ar Catarebula, manamde<br />

6-7 procesi Catarda da Tavs<br />

vimarTlebdiT, an ra maqvs Tavis<br />

samarTlebeli, ar vici? magram<br />

sisxlis samarTlis braldeba wamiyenes<br />

jgufuri TaRliTobisTvis<br />

da 4-dan 7 wlamde cixe gekuTvniso,<br />

aseTi muqarebiT da daSinebiT<br />

modiodnen, magram mainc magrad<br />

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dakavSirebiT. 2016 wlis arCevnebisTvis<br />

„patriotTa aliansis”<br />

wevri gavxdi. CvenTan am partiidan<br />

maJoritarobis deputatobis kandidati<br />

irma cxoragauli gaxldaT.<br />

roca TianeTSi Camovida, gverdiT<br />

davudeqi, StabSi vikribebodiT da<br />

sakuTari TvaliT vnaxe, rom zaqaria<br />

qucnaSvilisgan gamwarebuli uamravi<br />

adamiani modioda da sxvadasxva<br />

kompromati mohqonda masze.<br />

ramdenime mec movipove. Tundac<br />

tenderis erT magaliTs getyviT:<br />

zaqaria iqac ar Cndeba, am yvelafers<br />

gamgeobas akeTebinebs, gamgebeli<br />

lela qitesaSvilia, romelsac<br />

Zalian Rrmad Seatopina.<br />

amonabeWdi maqvs, 4 wlis manZilze<br />

iseTi tenderebi gauSves... magali-<br />

Tad, tenders acxadeben aseT<br />

rameze: gamgeobas hyavs 11 samsaxurebrivi<br />

manqana, aq ar aris<br />

saubari benzinsa da sxva rameze, mxolod<br />

ianvridan dekembris CaTvliT,<br />

erTi wlis manZilze, 11 avtomanqanis<br />

teqnikuri SekeTeba, 4<br />

wlis manZilze davajameT da 518<br />

000 laria daxarjuli. warmoidgineT,<br />

es Tanxa naxevar milions 18<br />

000-iT aRemateba da am tenderiT<br />

aris gasuli. aris Tu ara es biujetis<br />

Zarcva?! zaqaria qucnaSvili<br />

gamgebels yvela nabijs, yvela<br />

wertils da mZimes karnaxobs.<br />

_ am tenderebs vin igebs, adgilobriv<br />

xelisuflebasTan dakav-<br />

Sirebuli kompaniebi arian?<br />

_ erTaderTi adamiani hyavT,<br />

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aqvs, mxolod is monawileobs.<br />

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Seitana ganacxadi, TqvenTan warmodgenil<br />

dokumentebSic aris<br />

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Tanxa ar awyobdaT. mokled:<br />

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SekeTeba naxevar milionze 18<br />

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`ekonomikis saministros vedavebiT, ra ufleba<br />

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movida da SegvekiTxa? xelmowerebiT<br />

dafiqsirebulia, sadac Cemi gvaric figurirebs da<br />

es saqme sasamarTloSi SevitaneT. sasamarTlom<br />

warmoebaSi miiRo, oRond procesebi jer ar<br />

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raRacebi Caidina, magram TviTon ar Cndeba... am<br />

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gavusajaroo mainc. ratom unda imalebodes aseTi<br />

saqmeebi?! sxva SemTxvevac iyo, trasis gaswvriv<br />

obolma Zmebma miwa gainawiles, ori nakveTi<br />

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SesaZlebelia, telefoniTac moismines saubari,<br />

meti am nakveTs aRar Sexebian~<br />

es biujetis Zarcva da Tundac am<br />

erTi faqtiT mtkicdeba Tu ara is,<br />

rom ramxelaze Seatopina gamgebels<br />

Tavisi karnaxiT qucnaSvilma?!<br />

iq hyavs kidev gamgeblis moadgile<br />

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garigebebs awarmoebs.<br />

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TavianTi miRebuli mzakvruli<br />

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fasad misi sakuTreba gaxdeba. vis<br />

moasuninebs axla sxvas maJoritari<br />

TianeTSi?! suraTebi mogitaneT,<br />

SexedeT, ramxela korpusia, 5-<br />

sarTuliani, aq adre saavadmyofo<br />

Sendeboda, magram qveyana rom<br />

daingra, haerSi gamokidebuli<br />

darCa. „nacionalebis” momxre ar<br />

var, magram arCevnebis win siebs<br />

adgendnen, rom usaxlkaro adamianebisTvis<br />

es korpusebi binebad<br />

gaenawilebinaT. xalxi sixaruliT<br />

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jaro dokumentaciis Tanxa?<br />

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sTan SezarxoSda, Tqva, _ arCevnebis<br />

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gasworebodnen mas.<br />

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Si vbrundebodiT, roca sofel<br />

naRobilevSi ucnobi pirovneba,<br />

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`saqarTveloSi ar yofila precedenti, roca sakrebulos wevrs<br />

mosakrebeli sasamarTloSic mosTxoves. sasamarTlos avuxseni, rom<br />

rigiTi moqalaqe ar viyavi da sakrebuloSi msgavsi dokumentaciis<br />

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sakrebulos erTi wevri valdebulia, gamoTxovili dokumentebis<br />

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kodeqsiT sakrebulos wevris uflebamosileba gansazRvrulia. iq ar<br />

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gamoiTxovos da monitoringi martom Caataros, romelic mas<br />

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xelisufleba sakuTar xelebsa da yurebs ar moiWrida~<br />

„bmv”-s markis avtomanqaniT, xmovani<br />

sirenebiT gamogvekida, natanebTan<br />

gza gadagviWra, manqanidan<br />

gadmoxta da Cems meuRles<br />

Sars sdebda, sacemrad iwevda, _<br />

Sen ici, me vin varo? marTalia,<br />

manqanidan erTi adamiani gadmovida,<br />

magram uceb iq sxvebic gaCndnen.<br />

provokacias awyobdnen. saswrafod<br />

patrulSi davreke da<br />

cxadia, es dafiqsirebulic aris,<br />

magram sanam patruli movida, es<br />

kaci gaiqca. mere miTxres, rom<br />

sofel meriaSi daewivnen da uTxres,<br />

rom Cvens manqanas aRar gahkareboda.<br />

mere gavarkvieT, rom<br />

es adamiani biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

traqtoristi, vinme qilifTari<br />

iyo.<br />

_ radgan sityva miliarderze<br />

Camovarda, unda gkiTxoT: mis<br />

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aqveynebT xolme feisbuqze da<br />

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romelic biZinas xes umalavs.<br />

Cvens mkiTxvelsac mouyeviT es<br />

ambavi...<br />

_ amas winaT Cemi axloblis<br />

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am patara biWma momigo, _ ex, na-<br />

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moglejas raRa undao? amiT mimaxvedra,<br />

rom qliavis xes, faqtobrivad,<br />

am tansacmelSi ivaniSvils<br />

umalavda.<br />

guriaSi axlaxan Zlieri qari<br />

iyo da ramdenime xe moTxara. gurulebis<br />

enakvimatobis ambavi xom<br />

cnobilia da ambobdnen, _ qarma<br />

ivaniSvils saqme gauadvila, axla<br />

Camoivlis, yvelas axikavs da saxlSi<br />

gadaarCevso. iumoriT saubroben<br />

am sakiTxze, magram realurad<br />

ar moswonT. gurulebs<br />

uamravi problema aqvT, romlisTvisac<br />

TiTi TiTze aravis daukarebia.<br />

natanebi foTs miakuTvnes<br />

da deputatic erTi hyavT. am adamianma,<br />

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natanelebs meoradi tansacmeli<br />

gamougzavna saCuqrad. Zalian<br />

gabrazda xalxi, ambobda, ase dagvamcirao.<br />

iqve cxovrobs ivaniSvilic<br />

da man icis, ra awuxebs<br />

adgilobriv mosaxleobas, magram<br />

es ar aRelvebs. miliarderi marto<br />

imiT aris dakavebuli, sasurveli<br />

xe ipovos da saxlSi gaaqanos.<br />

amisTvis aTasebs xarjavs.<br />

_ ivaniSvilis damcvelebs ver<br />

gaugiaT, xeebis gadatana ratom<br />

aris problema, roca aqamde mas<br />

aravin uvlida da axla mzrun-<br />

veli patroni gamouCnda?<br />

_ problema is aris, rom xeebi,<br />

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ekuTvnis. Tundac axla, natanebis<br />

Zveli Cais fabrikis ezo-<br />

Si rom unda moglijos ramdenime<br />

xe da ukve SemosazRvruli<br />

aqvs, yvela saxelmwifosia. ra fulsac<br />

is axarjavs am xeebis glejas,<br />

adgilze rom mixedos da<br />

mouaros, albaT, ukeTesi iqneba.<br />

es kaci mxolod sakuTar keTildReobaze<br />

zrunavs. man moatyua<br />

qarTveli xalxi da unda, rom<br />

yvela sikeTe, rac Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

arsebobs, saxlSi waiRos, xalxisTvis<br />

ki araferi emeteba. am xis<br />

glejiT sxva rameebs afuWebs _<br />

rkinigzis sadenebi Caxsna, unikaluri<br />

mravalwlovani evkaliptis<br />

xeebi gadaWra, xe rom gaetarebina...<br />

natanebSi amboben, rom<br />

Tuki vinmes didi Wadari, muxa an<br />

kakali udgas, yvelasTan hyavs<br />

gagzavnili Suamavlebi, xom ar<br />

gayidiTo?<br />

_ rogor igebs ivaniSvili,<br />

sad ra xe dgas?<br />

_ adgilobrivebi amboben, rom<br />

upiloto vertmfrens uSvebs,<br />

saidanac garemos fotoebs uRebs<br />

da amiT igebs, sad ra dgaso.<br />

bolos, ozurgeTis upovarTa<br />

ufaso sasadiloSi Seqmnil mdgomareobaze<br />

unda mogiyveT: aseTi<br />

adamianebis sadilisTvis TveSi 8<br />

aTasi laria gamoyofili. beneficiarTa<br />

raodenoba, SarSandelTan<br />

SedarebiT, gazrdilia da am-<br />

Jamad 170-s udris. tenderi meriam<br />

gamoacxada da masSi monawileoba<br />

miiRo mxolod erTma kompaniam.<br />

erTi beneficiaris kveba am<br />

kompanias 1 lari da 70 TeTri<br />

ujdeba. kiTxvac ki ar daebada<br />

aravis, rom am fasad ra unda aWamon<br />

zrdasrul, TiTqmis, mSier<br />

adamianebs?! Zalian mainteresebs,<br />

vinc am Tanxis ulufa moifiqra<br />

da mere daafinansa, Tavad eyofa<br />

am fasis saWmeli dReSi? meniuSi<br />

uamravi kerZi uweriaT, aqvT xorcianic,<br />

kompoti, magram produqti<br />

gaZvirda da sainteresoa, rogor<br />

unda moamzadon es kerZebi ase<br />

iafad? faqtia, rom am yvelafer-<br />

Si sadRac aris ZaRlis Tavi damarxuli.<br />

Tu marTla aqvT is sakvebi,<br />

rac meniuSi uweriaT, e. i. porciebs<br />

amcireben da cotas aWmeven,<br />

am isedac, gaubedurebul<br />

adamianebs, sxvanairad, am TanxiT<br />

normaluri kvebis produqtebis<br />

momzadeba gamoricxulia.<br />

_ am kiTxvas ratom Tqven ar<br />

svamT?<br />

_ davsvi, magram mipasuxes, _ ra<br />

vqnaT, erTi pretendentis ganacxadi<br />

Semovida tenderSi da<br />

manac es fasi SemogvTavaza, Sei-<br />

Zleba, mas sakuTari meurneoba<br />

aqvs da sulac ar yidulobs kvebis<br />

produqtebso. „SeiZlebaze”<br />

ageben tenderebs da esec kiTxvis<br />

niSnebs badebs. ratom ar miiRes<br />

monawileoba sxva firmebma,<br />

esec gaugebaria?! mTavari is aris,<br />

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dabali fasebiT upovari adamianebis<br />

gamokveba da kvebis<br />

produqtebis Rirebuleba realobasTan<br />

axlos unda mieyvana, magram,<br />

albaT, amjeradac, meri sakuTar<br />

Tavze fiqrobs. upovrebs<br />

rom gadauxados kvebaSi fuli,<br />

danarCeni Tanxa sakuTar Tavze<br />

rogorRa moirgos?<br />

swored am meris „wyalobiT”<br />

qalaqis biujetidan saerTod amoiRes<br />

daxmareba meore jgufis<br />

invalidebisadmi da ganacxades,<br />

eseni janmrTelebi ariano. am<br />

dros yvelanairi socialuri qulis<br />

gareSe daxmarebis gacema Caamates.<br />

es imas niSnavs, rom nebismieri<br />

adamiani mova, moiTxovs da<br />

daxmarebas miiRebs. es pirdapir<br />

mianiSnebs, rom 2017 wlis TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

arCevnebisTvis<br />

„qarTulma ocnebam” biujetSi<br />

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`qronika+” Segnebulad ar<br />

daukavSirda ozurgeTis mers<br />

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damkvidrebuli misi pa-<br />

suxi cnobilia: is arasodes ake-<br />

Tebs komentars naTia SaraSeniZ-<br />

is braldebebze.<br />

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iSviaTia qalaqi, sadac ramdenime mdinare Camoedinebodes.<br />

quTaisi im qalaqTa Sorisaa, romelsac es privilegia xvda<br />

wilad, magram misi saTanadod gamoyeneba vera da ver xerxde-<br />

ba. metic, mdinareebis gaswvriv arsebuli teritoriebi mkvdar<br />

zonebad iqca da antisanitariis kerebs warmoadgens.<br />

wesiT, mdinareebis sanapiro rekreaciuli<br />

zonebis nawils unda<br />

Seadgendes da igi mosaxleobis TavSeyris<br />

adgilebad gamoiyenebodes.<br />

quTaisSi, iseve rogorc saqarTvelos<br />

sxva qalaqebSi, piriqiTaa. qalaqis<br />

sxvadasxva ubanSi daklaknili<br />

kalapotebi Tavisi wylis masiT<br />

ignorirebulia da mxolod nagavsayrelis<br />

funqcias atarebs.<br />

mdinare oRasyura saTafliis<br />

mRvimidan iwyeba, romelic quTaisis<br />

dasavleT nawils orad hyofs.<br />

igi, ZiriTadad, mWidrod dasaxlebuli<br />

ubnebis teritoriaze miedineba.<br />

marTalia, erTi SexedviT, mSvidisa<br />

da mcirewylianis STabeWdilebas<br />

tovebs, magram aris SemTxvevebi,<br />

roca swrafi wyalmovardnebiT<br />

xasiaTdeba da Sedegebic Sesabamisi<br />

mohyveba. bolo wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi mdinare ramdenjerme<br />

gadmovida kalapotidan da rogorc<br />

sacxovrebeli, ise savaWro<br />

obieqtebi datbora. imis gamo, rom<br />

garSemo arsebuli mSeneblobebis<br />

mizeziT kalapoti, droTa ganmavlobaSi,<br />

daviwrovda, didi odenobis<br />

wyals ver atarebs. problemebi,<br />

romelsac oRasyura qmnis, sxva<br />

yvelaferTan erTad, mosaxleobis<br />

didi „damsaxurebiTac” warmoiSoba.<br />

kalapoti samSeneblo da sayofacxovrebo<br />

narCenebis ganTavsebis<br />

poligonadaa gadaqceuli. mdinareSi<br />

fekaluri masebic blomad Caedineba,<br />

rac masSi cocxal organizmebs<br />

anadgurebs. specialistebi<br />

oRasyuras mkvdar mdinaredac<br />

moixsenieben.<br />

mdgomareoba, aseve, sagangaSoa<br />

mdinare rionis irgvlivac, radgan<br />

igi mosaxleobam da savaWro<br />

obieqtebma nagavsayrelad gadaaqcies.<br />

quTaiselTa didi nawilis<br />

ukmayofilbas, gansakuTrebiT,<br />

qalaqis centrSi, rusTavelisa<br />

da jaWvis xidebs Soris, arsebuli<br />

monakveTi iwvevs _ adgili,<br />

romelic ara marto adgilobrivebis,<br />

aramed, ucxoeli turistebis<br />

gadaadgilebis marSrut-<br />

Si Sedis. miuxedavad pretenziebisa,<br />

qalaqis<br />

TviTmmarTvelobidan,<br />

jerjerobiT, araferi<br />

keTdeba im<br />

adamianTa gamosavlenad,<br />

rom-<br />

34<br />

xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />

nato qaTamaZe<br />

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lebic centralur nawilSi lokaluri<br />

nagavsayrelebis warmoqmnis<br />

avtorebad gvevlinebian.<br />

2012 wlis arCevnebis dros oRasyuris<br />

sakiTxs „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

maJoritarobis kandidatis, „respublikuri<br />

partiis” yofili wevris,<br />

nato qaTamaZis winasaarCevno<br />

programaSi erT-erTi mTavari adgili<br />

ekava. mmarTveli gundi maSin<br />

mosaxleobas mdinaris kalapotis<br />

daRrmaveba-gawmendasa da problemis<br />

sabolood mogvarebas hpirdeboda,<br />

magram, sxva bevr ramesTan<br />

erTad, es dapirebac dRemde Seusrulebelia.<br />

winasaarCevno dapirebis<br />

daviwyebis gamo xelisuflebas<br />

yofili Tanagundeli nato qaTamaZec<br />

akritikebs da mTel pasuxismgeblobas<br />

qalaqis mers akisrebs<br />

nato qaTamaZe _ quTaisis<br />

sakrebulos wevri:<br />

_ oRasyuris kalapotis gawmendiTi<br />

samuSaoebis ganxorcieleba<br />

2014 wlis arCevnebis dros CemTan<br />

erTad qalaqis meris mier gacemuli<br />

dapirebacaa, Tumca mers, ratomRac,<br />

daaviwyda. sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />

es sakiTxi me davayene da, winaaRmdegobis<br />

miuxedavad, mainc gavida.<br />

Sevarcxvine Cemi kolegebi da<br />

vTqvi, rom TiToeuli maTganis saxelsa<br />

da gvars xmamaRla vityodi,<br />

Tuki problemis mogvarebas mxars<br />

ar dauWerdnen. mxardaWera miviRe<br />

da igi mowonebul sakiTxTa nusxa-<br />

Si Sevida, Tumca 2015 wlis biujetSi<br />

ver aisaxa. roca movikiTxe,<br />

nato qaTamaZe:<br />

SoTa murRulia<br />

`quTaiss hyavs<br />

mavnebeli meri,<br />

romelsac<br />

sakuTari Tavis<br />

garda aravin da<br />

araferi uyvars!~<br />

qalaqis merma miTxra, rom ufro<br />

mniSvnelovani da prioritetuli<br />

sxva rame iyo. amis Semdeg avdeqi da<br />

adglobrivi mosaxleobis 3 aTasamde<br />

xelmowera Sevagrove. mdinare<br />

oRasyuris sanapirosTan ganTavsebuli<br />

me-13, me-15, me-17 sabavSvo<br />

baRebis xelmZRvanelebic SemogvierTdnen,<br />

radgan wyalmovardnebis<br />

dros isini seriozuli problemebis<br />

winaSe arian. albaT, esec iyo<br />

erT-erTi mizezi am ukanasknel-<br />

Ta samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebisa.<br />

is, rom adidebuli<br />

mdinare zianis momtani<br />

xdeba, xelmowerebiT<br />

daafiqsires 35-e,<br />

23-e skolebisa da sxva<br />

saswavlo dawesebulebebis<br />

warmomadgenlebmac.<br />

SemogvierTdnen sazkvebis<br />

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saeqsperto daskvna da gadavagzavne<br />

infrastruqturisa da<br />

regionuli ganviTarebis saministroSi.<br />

_ ra ewera saeqsperto daskv-<br />

naSi?<br />

_ saeqsperto daskvnaSi aRniSnuli<br />

iyo, rom aucileblobas warmoadgenda<br />

samuSaoebis warmoeba,<br />

radgan SesaZlebeli iyo, mdinares<br />

gamoewvia savalalo Sedegebi. magaliTad,<br />

moyvanili iyo is, rom<br />

igi, periodulad, jebirebidan<br />

gadmodis da qalaqs tboravs. samwuxaro<br />

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oRasyuram, ramdenime wlis<br />

win, erTi bavSvis sicocxlec ki<br />

Seiwira. erTi SexedviT, patara,<br />

uwyinari mdinarea, magram Tuki adiddeba,<br />

mas seriozuli problemebis<br />

Seqmna SeuZlia.<br />

infrastruqturis saministro-<br />

Si Tavadac Cavedi. vibrZole am<br />

sityvis sruli mniSvnelobiT. 2015<br />

wlis seqtemberSi napirsamagri samuSaoebis<br />

specialistebi Camovidnen,<br />

romlebmac CemTan erTad da,<br />

sxvaTa Soris, qalaqis vice-mer miqiaSvilis<br />

TanxlebiT, mdinaris<br />

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daiares. amis Semdeg<br />

maTac TavianTi daskvna dades da<br />

saministros warudgines.<br />

_ miuxedavad am daskvnebisa,<br />

aRniSnuli sakiTxi verc 2016 wlis<br />

biujetSi aisaxa. ratom?<br />

_ diax, asea. 2016 wlis biujet-<br />

Si kvlav rom ar aisaxa, saministro-<br />

Si isev Cavedi. xan vexvewebodi, xan<br />

veCxubebodi yvelas, raTa sakiTxi<br />

daZruliyo. Sempirdnen, rom stiqiebis<br />

nawilSi gadaviyvanTo da finansTa<br />

saministros gadaegzavna,<br />

romelsac ukve mTavrobaze unda<br />

gaetana, raTa Tanxa Camoricxuliyo.<br />

moxda ise, rom finansTa saministroSic<br />

momiwia misvla. ministris<br />

moadgile giorgi kakauriZes<br />

Sevxvdi, romelmac miTxra, rom<br />

qalaqis mers esaubra, romelmac,<br />

Turme, ganucxada, rom am mdinaris<br />

kalapotis gakeTeba ar aris ase<br />

aucilebeli, radgan sxva rameebi<br />

ufro mniSvnelovani da prioritetuliao.<br />

me mas vkiTxe, _ SoTa mur-<br />

Ruliasi ufro sjera, Tu im 3 aTasi<br />

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Camovitane-meTqi? Cven arcTu sasiamovnod<br />

davSordiT erTmaneTs.<br />

amis Semdeg momiwia infrastruqturis<br />

saministroSi misvla, sadac<br />

miTxres, rom finansTa saministrodan<br />

dagvirekes da samuSaoebi<br />

`wesiT, mdinareebis sanapiro rekreaciuli<br />

zonebis nawils unda Seadgendes da igi<br />

mosaxleobis TavSeyris adgilebad<br />

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sxvadasxva ubanSi daklaknili kalapotebi<br />

Tavisi wylis masiT ignorirebulia da<br />

mxolod nagavsayrelis funqcias atarebs.<br />

mdinare oRasyura saTafliis mRvimidan iwyeba,<br />

romelic quTaisis dasavleT nawils orad<br />

hyofs. igi, ZiriTadad, mWidrod dasaxlebuli<br />

ubnebis teritoriaze miedineba. marTalia,<br />

erTi SexedviT, mSvidisa da mcirewylianis<br />

STabeWdilebas tovebs, magram aris SemTxvevebi,<br />

roca swrafi wyalmovardnebiT xasiaTdeba da<br />

Sedegebic Sesabamisi mohyveba. bolo wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi mdinare ramdenjerme gadmovida<br />

kalapotidan da rogorc sacxovrebeli, ise<br />

savaWro obieqtebi datbora. imis gamo, rom<br />

garSemo arsebuli mSeneblobebis mizeziT<br />

kalapoti, droTa ganmavlobaSi, daviwrovda,<br />

didi odenobis wyals ver atarebs.<br />

problemebi, romelsac oRasyura qmnis, sxva<br />

yvelaferTan erTad, mosaxleobis didi<br />

`damsaxurebiTac~ warmoiSoba. kalapoti<br />

samSeneblo da sayofacxovrebo narCenebis<br />

ganTavsebis poligonadaa gadaqceuli.<br />

mdinareSi fekaluri masebic blomad<br />

Caedineba, rac masSi cocxal organizmebs<br />

anadgurebs. specialistebi oRasyuras mkvdar<br />

mdinaredac moixsenieben~<br />

34 N2 (179) 24.01-30.01.2017 w.

dafinansdebao. quTaisSi Camovedi<br />

da xalxs sakiTxis gadawyveta mivuloce,<br />

magram murRuliam yvelaferi<br />

gaakeTa, raTa es Tema dablokiliyo.<br />

sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />

mas brali wavuyene, sadac miTxra:<br />

„qalbatono nato, Tqven ar iyaviT<br />

is adamiani, romelic Tavs iwonebdiT<br />

da xalxs eubnebodiT, ukve dafinansebuliao?<br />

aaa, moatyueT xalxi?”<br />

diax, murRulias undoda, saqme<br />

ise warmoeCina, TiTqos, nato<br />

qaTamaZem amomrCeveli moatyua.<br />

dResac vambob, _ sicocxlis fasad<br />

rom damijdes, am sakiTxs bolomde<br />

mivyvebi. aqve minda vTqva,<br />

rom dauSvebelia is, rasac SoTa<br />

murRulia akeTebs. quTaiss hyavs<br />

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aseve mazaCo, breigeli, ar<br />

vici, Zalian bevrni arian! magram<br />

bosxi yvelaze metad momwons, radgan<br />

alegoriebiT xatavs. ferweraSi<br />

rom maqvs namuSevrebi: „Tavisuflebis<br />

fasi”, „gamoTxoveba<br />

diqtatorTan” „ZaRlebi sala-<br />

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veckis kunZulze”, „Tagvebi katas<br />

marxaven” _ es alegoriebia. roca<br />

stalini gardaicvala, maSin wavikiTxe:<br />

diqtatura damTavrda, adamianebs<br />

Tavisufleba undaTo da<br />

marTalicaa, amitom davarqvi es<br />

saxelebi da Sevqmeni isini. minda,<br />

es yvelaferi veZebo da gamovce.<br />

_ ra aris sistemaSi Sesacvleli?<br />

ra problemas xedavT xe-<br />

lovnebaSi?<br />

_ me Cemi xedva da xelwera<br />

maqvs, xSirad zogs usayveduria,<br />

ratom akeTeb, ratom xatav ase da<br />

ara sxvagvarado da me vpasuxob:<br />

waikiTxeT lado gudiaSvilis<br />

mogonebebi, sadac weria, rom 1950<br />

wels akademiidan gamoagdes, umuSevari<br />

davrCi da saWmlis fulic<br />

ki ar gvqonda me da Cems cols, ra<br />

unda gveqnao? da mizezi, ratomac<br />

gamomiSves, is iyo, rom me klaknili<br />

xazebiT vxatavdi. akademiidan<br />

ori kaci gamomigzavnes da miTxres:<br />

nu xatav, lado, ase klaknili<br />

xazebiT, gaaswore, _ ra vqna, es<br />

Cemgan gamodis ase da ar SemiZlia<br />

sxvanairad daxatva, _ vupasuxeo.<br />

mainc, _ ara, gadaaswore, realisturad<br />

gaakeTeo, _ miTxres, Tumca<br />

cudi mowafe gamovedi, mainc<br />

imas vakeTebdi, rogorsac vgrZnobdi<br />

da vfiqrobdi, aseTi rame<br />

gamodis Cemgano. maincdamainc<br />

anatomiuri agebuleba unda<br />

hqondes naxats? _ namdvilad ara.<br />

_ ras ganicdiT yvelaze<br />

metad?<br />

_ minda, rom Cemi dasaxuli gegmebi<br />

bolomde ganvaxorcielo da<br />

kargi megobari myavdes gverdiT _<br />

amas ganvicdi.<br />

roca vmuSaob, yoveldRe axal<br />

raRacas aRmovaCen, vcvli xolme<br />

zogierTs. „daviT aRmaSeneblis”<br />

ilustracias Tu movaswreb, kargia.<br />

_ adamiani, visac SexvedrixarT<br />

da ggoniaT, rom diadi adami-<br />

ani iyo.<br />

_ Sevxvedrivar lado gudiaSvils,<br />

daviT kakabaZes, firosmans<br />

ara (icinis), konstantine gamsaxurdias,<br />

magram misi naxvisas is<br />

gancda Zalian wamieri iyo, fanqarSi<br />

mqonda jer agebuli naxati<br />

da uceb ori kaci damadga Tavs<br />

uknidan da ra vicodi me, vin iyo<br />

is, maSin miTxra konstantinem:<br />

_ ymawvilo, Tqvens naxats<br />

didebuleba akliao, _ Zalian kargad<br />

maxsovs. _ ra unda upasuxo<br />

axla amas-meTqi... gverdiT taZris<br />

erT-erTi mRvdeli mejda, saba<br />

erqva, _ iciT, es vin iyoo? mkiTxra<br />

man, _ ara meTqi, _ ai, amis avtorio<br />

da sveticxovlisken gaiSvira<br />

xeli. _ amis avtori aRaraa cocxali-meTqi,<br />

_ vuTari, _ ara, wigni<br />

rom dawera, ego, _ miTxra. isini<br />

kidev wavidnen, Semouares sveticxovels<br />

da karibWeSi gavidnen, _<br />

uime-meTqi, _ vifiqre. CamoviRe es<br />

dafa, romelzedac vxatavdi da<br />

gaviqeci. isini ukve gadasulebi<br />

iyvnen, manqanasTan idga orive.<br />

konstantines orbiviT Tvalebi<br />

hqonda, Sevxede da ar damaviwydeba,<br />

meore simon Ciqovani yofila,<br />

davkmayofildi naxviT, Torem ise<br />

Zalian moridebuli, morcxvi da<br />

mokrZalebuli viyavi da gamarjoba,<br />

Seni, batono konstantine-meTqi,<br />

_ ver vetyodi.<br />

mas Semdeg, studenti rom<br />

viyavi aq, maSin vxvdebodi xolme<br />

quCaSi mas da galaktions erTad,<br />

laRiZis wylebTan.<br />

_ ra gaRizianebT yvelaze<br />

metad?<br />

_ uxeSoba.<br />

_ ra giyvarT?<br />

_ silamaze.<br />

_ raze gwydebaT guli?<br />

_ imaze, rom ar vafasebT diad<br />

adamianebs, rusTavelis iubilec<br />

ki ar aRvniSneT, roca is aseTi<br />

mniSvnelovania Cveni erisTvis.<br />

wignic mivuZRveni mis 850 wlisTavs,<br />

magram bevrma ar daafasa<br />

da es guls mtkens.<br />

_ risi keTeba gsiamovnebT?<br />

_ Cemi saqmis, xatvis, Zerwvis.<br />

_ ra gabednierebT?<br />

_ araferi, mxolod Cemi saqme,<br />

ai, es, rasac vakeTeb.<br />

_ ras gegmavT?<br />

_ „daviT aRmaSeneblis” dasuraTebas.<br />

_ „didostatis marjvenis”<br />

ilustrirebis dasasruleblad<br />

ramdeni dagrCaT?<br />

_ yvelaferi gakeTebuli maqvs,<br />

magram zogierTs vcvli. teqsti<br />

dawerili maqvs, imasac vasworeb,<br />

radgan konstantines iseTi detalebi<br />

aqvs nawarmoebSi, rac mTlad<br />

egre araa istoriulad da<br />

realurad da rogor Sevbedo baton<br />

konstantines misi Secvla, ar<br />

vici. minda, vinme istorikosi moviwvio<br />

da es konkretuli Temebi<br />

gavarCioT.<br />

_ Tqveni azriT, adamianebs mi-<br />

sia aqvT?<br />

_ yvelas aqvs Taviseburi misia.<br />

_ Tqven ra misia gaqvT?<br />

_ is, rom raRac lamazi da saintereso,<br />

axali Sevqmna, aseve xalxs<br />

adamianis da bunebis silamaze davanaxvo,<br />

es aris Cemi misia, meti<br />

araferi.<br />

am dros mis erT-erT namuSevars,<br />

„xurmas” vuyurebdiT, de-<br />

kemberi iyo:<br />

_ Cemi saxlidn dilas rom viyurebodi,<br />

xes foTlebi gascvivda<br />

da mxolod xurmis nayofi iyo<br />

Camokidebuli, mere mze rom gamovida,<br />

es suraTi, rasac yoveldRe<br />

vuyurebdi, raRac brwyinvalebad<br />

iqca. ai, es silamaze mxiblavda<br />

da ase var dResac.<br />

_ vin aris farsadan minaS-<br />

vili?<br />

_ rTuli kiTxvaa. saqarTvelos<br />

erTi moqalaqe var, meti ra unda<br />

vTqva.<br />

_ ras elodebiT?<br />

_ Cveni qveynis gabrwyinebas.<br />

_ risi imedi gaqvT?<br />

_ kargi adamianiebis.<br />

_ ra iqneba Tqveni saTqmeli<br />

adamianebisTvis?<br />

_ giyardeT samSoblo.<br />

misi saxli patara galereas<br />

hgavs, sadac ulamazes samyaroSi<br />

aRmoCndebiT, romelic feradi<br />

tiloebiTa da SesaniSnavi arqiteqturuli<br />

namuSevrebiTaa gamdidrebuli.<br />

wamosvlis win umorCilesad<br />

mTxova, rom misi qeba an raime<br />

„didebuli” ar damewera masze,<br />

fotos gadaRebaze Zlivs davi-<br />

Tanxme. miTxra, ar uyvars, roca<br />

fotos uReben, misi naxatebic hyofnis.<br />

ar vici, rodis sZinavs, is xom<br />

sul Sromobs, rogorc Tavad ambobs.<br />

unda, rom moaswros is, rac<br />

Caifiqra. axla 72 wlisaa da bednier<br />

saqarTveloSi cxovrebaze ocnebobs.<br />

ar vici, ramdenad auxdeba<br />

ocneba, magram vici, Cven gagvimarTla,<br />

rom misnairi xelovnebi<br />

gvyavs.<br />

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moWidaveTa<br />

saSinao da<br />

sagareo<br />

gasul kviras qarTvelma moWidaveebma<br />

araerT turnirSi mosinjes<br />

Zalebi, rogorc Tavisufal,<br />

aseve berZnul-romaul stilSi. daviwyoT<br />

saqarTvelos 23-wlamdel-<br />

Ta CempionatiT Tavisufal WidaobaSi,<br />

romelsac ambrolaurma umaspinZla.<br />

monawileTagan yvelaze<br />

titulovani moWidave olimpiuri<br />

priziori, mZimewonosani geno petriaSvili<br />

iyo. molodinisamebr, man<br />

yvela konkurents ajoba da saqarTvelos<br />

Cempioni gaxda.<br />

mis garda oqros medlebs daeuflnen:<br />

ramaz TurmaniZe (aWara),<br />

SoTa fartenaZe (aWara), iveri julayiZe<br />

(samtredia), mirza sxuluxia<br />

(quTaisi), avTandil kenWaZe (ambrolauri),<br />

irakli mwiTuri (Tbilisi),<br />

givi maWaraSvili (mcxeTa).<br />

iranis qalaq meSxedSi qarTveli<br />

warmatebebi<br />

xinCegaSvilma indoeTSic gaibrwyina<br />

`klasikosebi~ gaemgzavrnen, sadac<br />

saerTaSoriso gundur turnir<br />

`taxtis Tasze~ iasparezes. jgufur<br />

etapze qarTvelebma erTerTi<br />

iranuli klubi 5:3 daamarcxes,<br />

mere ki erayis nakrebi 7:1 gaanadgures<br />

da naxevarfinalSi gavidnen.<br />

Cvenma gundma TurqeTis nakrebs<br />

6:2 sZlia da finalSi gavida.<br />

iq uZlieresi maspinZelTa nakrebi<br />

aRmoCnda, romelmac Sansi ar<br />

dagvitova – 1:7.<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebs iranSi<br />

oTar tatiSvili da zaza jiblaZe<br />

xelmZRvanelobdnen, gundis Semadgenloba<br />

ki aseTi iyo: ramaz surmaniZe<br />

(59 kg), Tornike jangavaZe (66<br />

kg), anton mamageiSvili (71 kg), ilia<br />

gulbaTaSvili, goga afriamaSvili<br />

(orive 75 kg), Tornike ZamaSvili (80<br />

kg), giorgi cirekiZe (85 kg), maTe<br />

sofaZe, levan yurfaraSvili (orive<br />

98 kg), levan arabuli, vasil<br />

imerliSvili (orive 130 kg).<br />

moskovidan oqros medliT dagvibrunda<br />

`klasikosi~ zurab da-<br />

TunaSvili (80 kg). ivan padubnis memorialze<br />

man yvela brZola moigo.<br />

man rusi metoqeebi daamarcxa,<br />

finalSi adlan akievs ajoba. 85<br />

kilogramSi vercxlis medali moipova<br />

robert kobliaSvilma, romelic<br />

gadamwyvet brZolaSi ruseTis<br />

saxeliT moaspareze daviT CakvetaZesTan<br />

1:3 damarcxda.<br />

yvelaze titulovani qarTveli<br />

moqmedi moWidave, Tavisufal stilSi<br />

olimpiuri da msoflios Cempioni<br />

vladimer xinCegaSvili ki<br />

indoeTSi imyofeboda, sadac meore<br />

profesiuli saklubo Cempionati<br />

dasrulda. Sous elementebiT gaformebuli<br />

es Sejibreba indoelebma<br />

SarSan daafuZnes, bevri<br />

sponsori miizides da turnirze<br />

msoflios TiTqmis yvela saxelovan<br />

moWidaves uxmes.<br />

xinCegaSvili klubma `panjab<br />

roialsma~ miiwvia, romelic gaxda<br />

kidec Cempioni. lado gundis<br />

kapitnadac daniSnes da man es<br />

ndoba Tavisi Sedegiani WidaobiT<br />

gaamarTla. finali misma gundma<br />

5:4 moigo, mTlianobaSi ki xinCegaSvilma<br />

indoeTis ligaSi Svidi<br />

brZola Caatara da aqedan eqvsSi<br />

gaimarjva. erTaderTi marcxi man<br />

indoel sandeep tomarsTan jgufur<br />

etapze ganicada, risTvisac<br />

finalSi revanSi aiRo da mas 3:0<br />

sZlia.<br />

xinCegaSvili sxva aspeqtiTac<br />

gamoirCa – igi indoeTis ligis<br />

yvelaze maRalanazRaurebadi falavani<br />

aRmoCnda. raRa Tqma unda,<br />

Cvenc swored igi migvaCnia mxolod<br />

induri ki ara, msoflio masStabis<br />

uZvirfases moWidaved.<br />

saqarTvelos saragbo erovnuli<br />

nakrebis sami mwvrTneli da Cveni<br />

ragbis akademiis xelmZRvaneli<br />

samuSao vizitiT axal zelandiaSi<br />

gaemgzavrnen.<br />

orkviriani viziti saqarTvelos<br />

ragbis kavSiris iniciativiTa da<br />

borjRalosnebis axalzelandieli<br />

mTavari mwvrTnelis, milton heigis<br />

kontaqtebis saSualebiT momzqarTvelTa<br />

zelandiuri gamocdileba<br />

basilaSvili<br />

avstralias<br />

daemSvidoba<br />

38<br />

adda. axal zelandiaSi borjRalosanTa<br />

samwvrTnelo Stabidan heigTan<br />

erTad misi asistenti levan<br />

maisaSvili da Serkinebis mwvrTneli<br />

bred harisi wavidnen. maTTan<br />

erTad gaemgzavra saqarTvelos<br />

ragbis kavSiris akademiis xelmZRvaneli<br />

zaza leJava, romelic samwvrTnelo<br />

saqmianobis garda, zelandiuri<br />

akademiebis muSaobis<br />

sistemasa da principebs ecnoba.<br />

Cveni delegacia oqlendSi,<br />

klub `bluzis~ bazaze icxovrebs,<br />

romlis mTavari mwvrTneli heigis<br />

megobari, legendaruli veterani<br />

tana umangaa. igi 2012 wlis noemberSi<br />

saqarTveloSi imyofeboda<br />

da am periodSi heigs mrCevlobas<br />

uwevda.<br />

gawerili programis Tanaxmad,<br />

qarTveli mwvrTnelebi gundis yvela<br />

varjiSs daeswrnen da zelandiel<br />

specialistebTan erTad gaiares<br />

varjiSis dagegmarebis procesi.<br />

garda amisa, maT individualuri<br />

Sexvedrebi gamarTes rogorc<br />

mTavar, aseve konkretuli<br />

mimarTulebebis mwvrTnelebTan.<br />

23-dan 26 ianvramde ki qarTuli<br />

delegacia velingTonSi iqneba, sadac<br />

ze-ragbis moqmedi Cempionis,<br />

`hariqeinzis~ mzadebis principebs<br />

gaecnoba. programa aqac iseTivea,<br />

rogoric `bluzis~ SemTxvevaSi _<br />

sruli CarTuloba savarjiSo procesSi<br />

da individualuri Sexvedrebi<br />

samwvrTnelo Stabis wevrebTan.<br />

garda amisa, zaza leJava gegmavs,<br />

rom am gundebis skolebisa da akademiebis<br />

muSaobis principebs gaecnos.<br />

`miviReT SesaniSnavi SesaZlebloba,<br />

rom sakuTari TvaliT vixiloT<br />

da CarTuli viyoT `bluzis~<br />

mzadebaSi. TavSi uamravi azri mitrialebs.<br />

maTi meSveobiT saqarTvelos<br />

nakrebi gaZlierdeba. am vizitis<br />

Sedegad davrwmundi, rom<br />

samwvrTnelo filosofiis kuTxiT<br />

swor gzaze vdgavarT da es Zalian<br />

kargia. udidesi siamovneba miviRe<br />

tanasa da misi amalis muSaobis xilviT.<br />

saqarTveloSi ragbi geometriuli<br />

progresiiT izrdeba. pirvelad<br />

rom Cavedi, sul sami saragbo<br />

moedani iyo. axla maTma raodenobam<br />

ocs miaRwia. ukve msoflio<br />

donis Sesaferisi bazebi gvaqvs.<br />

izrdeba niWier moTamaSeTa Taoba.<br />

vimedovneb, rom zrdis tempi momavalSic<br />

SenarCundeba“, _ ambobs<br />

milton heigi.<br />

saqarTvelos nomer pirveli<br />

CogburTeli, nikoloz basilaSvili,<br />

avstraliis Ria pirvel-<br />

obis ZiriTadi badis pirvel<br />

wreSi msoflio reitingis 33-e<br />

nomerTan, germanel filip<br />

kolSraiberTan 4:6, 6:3, 6:7, 4:6<br />

damarcxda.<br />

pirveli wagebuli setis Semdeg<br />

nikam meore seti aRmavlobiT<br />

Caatara da angariSi gaa-<br />

Tanabra. matCSi gardamtexi me-<br />

same seti aRmoCnda, sadac ori<br />

breikiT 4:0 dawinaurda, Tumca,<br />

samwuxarod, amxela upiratesoba<br />

ver SeinarCuna da saqme tai-<br />

breikamde miiyvana, romelic<br />

germanelma 7:2 moigo. meoTxe<br />

setSi kolSraiberma erTi breiki<br />

Seasrula da Sexvedra gama-<br />

rjvebamde mSvidad miiyvana.<br />

matCi 2 saaTsa da 34 wuTs gagr-<br />

Zelda. nikoloz basilaSvili<br />

badesTan<br />

aradamajereblad<br />

TamaSobda _ 11-jer gavida da<br />

mxolod samjer moipova qula.<br />

basilaSvilma avstraliis<br />

Ria pirvelobis ZiriTad bade-<br />

Si SesvliT 50 000 amerikuli<br />

dolari gamoimuSava.<br />

gverdi moamzada<br />

levan janezaSvilma<br />

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dubaiSi eqsperimentuli nakrebiT<br />

guSin saRamos saqarTvelos<br />

erovnulma safexburTo nakrebma<br />

wlis pirveli matCi Caatara. slovaki<br />

vladimir vaisis mier gawvrTnili<br />

gundi amxanagurad uzbekeTs<br />

daupirispirda. am matCis Sesaxeb<br />

Cveni gazeTis momdevno nomerSi<br />

giambobT, aseve mimovixilavT 25<br />

ianvars iordaniasTan gasamarT<br />

Sexvedrasac.<br />

sadebiuto matCamde Cvenma erovnulma<br />

gundma bolo varjiSi dubais<br />

safexburTo klub `al nasris~<br />

sawvrTnel centrSi gamarTa. varjiSi<br />

erT saaTs gagrZelda, dubaiSi<br />

myofi TiToeuli qarTveli fexburTeli<br />

janmrTeladaa da sakuTar<br />

Sanss elis.<br />

SegaxsenebT, vaisma eqsperimentul<br />

Semadgenlobas mouyara Tavi<br />

da dubaiSi bevri qarTveli fexburTelis<br />

sanakrebo debiuti<br />

Sedgeba.<br />

`Zalian bednieri var, rom Sansi<br />

momeca da nakrebSi gamomiZaxes. fexburTelebis<br />

umravlesoba pirvelad<br />

vTamaSobT nakrebSi da gaormagebuli<br />

ZalebiT gvinda, warmateba<br />

movutanoT saqarTvelos~, _ ambobs<br />

saba lobJaniZe.<br />

`Zalian kargi Sekrebaa, yovel<br />

saRamos gavdivarT Teorias, taqtikuri<br />

varjiSebia. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom ZiriTadi birTvi saqarTvelos<br />

Cempionatidan aris gamoZaxebuli,<br />

kargi TamaSi iqneba da SeTamaSebuli<br />

gundi viqnebiT~, _ acxadebs<br />

daviT xoWolava.<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebi dubaiSi<br />

aseTi SemadgenlobiTaa Sekrebili:<br />

mekareebi: roin kvasxvaZe („torpedo“,<br />

quTaisi), omar migineiSvili<br />

(„samtredia“), oTar goSaZe („sabur-<br />

Talo“, Tbilisi);<br />

mcvelebi: Tornike grigalaSvili<br />

(„Cixura“, saCxere) daviT xo-<br />

Wolava („Cernomoreci“, odesa, ukraina),<br />

giorgi rexviaSvili („lokomotivi“,<br />

Tbilisi), laSa SergelaSvili<br />

(„rigasi“, latvia), uCa lob-<br />

JaniZe („atirau“, yazaxeTi), giorgi<br />

qimaZe („torpedo“, quTaisi), jimi<br />

tabiZe („genti“, belgia);<br />

naxevarmcvelebi: Teimuraz Sonia<br />

(„dinamo“, baTumi), giorgi ganugrava<br />

(„Cixura“, saCxere), oleg mamasaxlisi<br />

(„torpedo“, quTaisi),<br />

oTar kiteiSvili („dinamo Tbilisi~),<br />

baCana arabuli („dinamo Tbilisi~),<br />

giorgi xaraiSvili („sabur-<br />

Talo“, Tbilisi), beqa tuRuSi<br />

(„torpedo“, quTaisi), saba lobJaniZe<br />

(„dinamo Tbilisi~), giorgi papunaSvili<br />

(„dinamo Tbilisi~) laSa<br />

parunaSvili („dinamo Tbilisi~);<br />

Tavdamsxmelebi: vladimer dvaliSvili<br />

(„atirau“, yazaxeTi), budu<br />

zivzivaZe („samtredia“).<br />

uzbekeTTan vaisma Semdegi sastarto<br />

Semadgenloba daayena: kvasxvaZe,<br />

Sonia, arabuli, xoWolava,<br />

kiteiSvili, s. lobJaniZe, u. lob-<br />

JaniZe, rexviaSvili, SergelaSvili,<br />

tuRuSi, zivzivaZe. moedanze gundi<br />

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