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mediasTan mimarTebiT kanonmdeblobas Tu CavxedavT, im SemTxvevaSi, Tu SeTanxmebul interviuze werilobiT ar iReb uars, misi gaSvebis ufleba gaqvs. miT umetes, rom teqsti, gasainterviueblad, Tavad pressamsaxuris ufrosma, xaTuna Carkvianma gadmomigzavna. "qronika+"-Si xsenebuli intervius gamoqveynebis Semdeg movlenebi Semdegnairad ganvi- Tarda, me vityodi _ amazrzenad. diliT, sxva zarebTan erTad, xaTuna Carkvianisa da "qronika+"-is mTavari redaqtoris, eliso kilaZis gamotovebuli zarebi damxvda. pirveli eliso kilaZes davureke, romelmac damamSvida, _ Tamuna, ar inerviulo, magram Senma daqalma dareka da miTxra, rom Sen, Turme, nino gvenetaZisgan aranairi interviu ar agiRiao. me ki vu- sxva dros Cemi qmedebebi bevrad radikaluri iqneboda, ma- gram es is variantia, rodesac yvelafrisgan gverdze vdgebi. am furclebidan arasodes gadamixdia madloba eliso kilaZisTvis da axla vuxdi mxolod imitom, rom monawile ar viqnebi im sibinZurisa, razedac qvemoT minda davwero. 2017 wlis 14 ianvars mosamarTleTa konferenciaze dampatiJes. damireka uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris nino gvenetaZis mTavarma konsultantma mediis sakiTxebSi, xaTuna Carkvianma. sxdoma or saaTze met xans gagrZelda. aqve minda aRvniSno, rom, zogadad, aseTi sxdomebi da konferenciebi mosawyenia da, maincdamainc, ar mainteresebs. Cemda gasakvirad, uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris, nino gvenetaZis gamosvla imdenad saintereso aRmo- Cnda, rom darbazSi msxdomTagan, me mgoni, bolomde marto me vusmendi. saubari iyo sasamarTloSi mimdinare reformebze, samomavlo gegmebze, axal poziciebsa da a. S. arada, konferenciaze mxolod xaTuna Carkvianis xaTriT mivedi, romelTanac wlebis megobroba makav- Sirebs da romelic am Tanamdebobaze axlad daniSnuli iyo. konferenciis dasrulebis Semdeg CarkvianisTvis ar damimalavs da vuTxari, _ Zalian saintereso angariSi iyo da nino gvenetaZesTan interviu xom ar gamekeTebina-meTqi? _ Zalian kargi iqnebao, _ miviRe pasuxi. _ maSin, am gamosvlas gavainterviueb, mxolod damatebiT kiTxvebs gadmogigzavni, ufro rom gamovacocxloT da Sen es yvelaferi ninos SeuTanxme-meTqi. xaTuna Carkviani sixaruliT damTanxmda, xazs vusvam, _ sixaruliT damTanxmda. vTxove, rom nino gvenetaZisTvis teqsti gamoerTmia. Carkviani masTan mivida (ai, aq qalbaton ninos vTxov, gaixsenos es detali, imitom, rom mis win videqi), amobe- Wdili teqsti gamoarTva, romelic xelSi eWira da momitana. vuTxari, rom CemTvis teqstis eleqtronuli versia gadmoegzavna, amxela teqstis akrefaSi dro rom ar damekarga. konferenciis Semdeg xaTuna Carkvianma Tavis samsaxurebrivi manqaniT uzenaesi sasamarTlos SenobaSi wamomiyvana, kabinetSi amiyvana da moxsenebis eleqtroversia gadmomigzavna. SevTanxmdiT, rom me teqstSi kiTxvebs Cavsvamdi, damatebiT kiTxvebs ki calke gadmovugzavnidi da masze uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomares pasuxs gaaceminebda. ase da amgvarad, nino gvenetaZis teqsti xaTuna Carkvianma gadmomigzavna SabaTs, 14 ianvars, konferenciis Semdeg, 16.21 sT-ze. amis Semdeg Cven gvianobamde erTad viyaviT, kafeSi visxediT, samomavlo gegmebze vmsjelobdiT da a. S. or- SabaTamde kidev ramdenjerme SevexmianeT erTmaneTs da vinaidan SabaT-kvira dasveneba uwevda, amitom gadawyda, rom masala momaval kviras gavidoda. 20 ianvars xaTuna Carkvianis pirad meilze kiTxvebi gadavugzavne. ai, es kiTxvebic: 10 294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com pasuxi uzenaesi sasamarTlos pressamsaxuris ufross, xaTuna Carkvians 1. `rusTavi 2"-Tan dakavSirebul movlenebs (samarTlebrivi devnis TvalsazrisiT) ra Sefasebas miscemdiT? 2. zaqaria qucnaSvili dRemde apelirebs imiT, rom pasuxi ar gaeciT mis kiTxvebs. nu davutebT mas am saTqmels da er- Txel da sabolood gavceT pasuxi: a. ramdeni gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni gaqvT gamotanili Tqveni mravalwliani samosamarTleo saqmianobisas? b. zaza meiSvilTan erTad iRebdiT Tu ara monawileobas mosamarTleTa disciplinur devnaSi? g. qrTamis aRebis faqtze dakavebuli policieli Tqven gaa- TavisufleT patimrobidan da es gadawyvetileba "gaamarTleT" ukiduresi aucileblobiT? gTxovT, gangvimartoT, qrTamis aRebis gamarTlebiT ra ufro mniSvnelovani sikeTe gadarCa? d. boris mWedliZis saqmeze ZalaSi datoveT qveda instanciis sasamarTlos gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni mxolod misi moadgilis Cvenebis safuZvelze, ris Sedegadac mas ramdenimewliani patimroba miesaja da ojaxi daengra. iyo Tu ara raime sxva mtkicebuleba, rac b. mWedliZis danaSauls adasturebda? e. valeri gelaSvilisTvis samewarmeo saqmianobis SezRudvisa da qonebis CamorTmevisTvis SevardnaZis xelisuflebis dros xom ar hqonda adgili maSindeli saxelmwifo-politikuri Tanamdebobis pirebis mxridan Tqvenze zewolas, rac misi ojaxis 2 wevris dapatimreba-gatacebiT da Tqven mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis gamo 1.5 milionis Rirebulebis qonebis CamorTmeviT damTavrda?" bunebrivia, telefoniTac Sevexmiane, rom kiTxvebi gadmogzavnilia, razec pasuxi miviRe, rom nino venetaZes Seutanda da gadmomigzavnida. mas Semdeg, rac am kiTxvebze aranairi pasuxi ar mimiRia, CavTvale, rom nino gvenetaZem isini zedmetad kritikulad miiCnia da pasuxi ar gasca, amitom, rogorc xaTuna CarkvianTan Tavidanve SevTanxmdiT da miviRe misgan Tanxmoba, mis mier gadmogzavnil teqstSi konteqstidan gamomdinare kiTxvebi Cavsvi (xazs vusvam, mxolod konteqstidan da teqstidan gamomdinare kiTxvebi). ise rom, teqstis Sinaarsi ar Semicvlia da xaTuna Carkvians pirad meilze 23 ianvars, dilis 8.28 wT-ze gadavugzavne. mogvianebiT davureke. Carkviani ar pasuxobda. misgan miviRe mesiji, rom seminarze iyo. axla, bunebrivia, ismis kiTxva, _ ratom gadavwyvite, rom teqstSi Camesva kiTxvebi da ratom ar Cavwere nino gvenetaZesTan cocxali interviu? _ im martivi mizezis gamo, rom nino gvenetaZis intervius ver veRirsebodi. amis magaliTi aris volski. ramdenjerac ar sTxova "qronika+"-ma Cemi saxiT volskisTan interviu, imdenjer Tanxmobas viRebdiT Carkvianisgan, magram ara volskis intervius. Cemi kolegebi "qronika+"- dan mxolod im SemTxvevaSi werdnen volskis, Tu pirdapir daukavSirdebodnen, is ki telefons upasuxebda. am xnis ganmavlobaSi ambrazurasaviT viyavi xaTunaze gadafarebuli, es ambavi eliso kilaZesTan rom ar misuliyo. arasodes davwerdi amas, magram bolos "ocnebis" centraluri saarCevno Stabidan, arCevnebis dRes davureke da vTxove, _ xaTuna, volski Camawerine telefoniT, Zalian gTxov, dagelodebi-meTqi. _ sul tyuilad. miuxedavad aseTi damokidebulebisa, megobrobaze win es faqtori arasodes damiyenebia. Txari, _ xaTuna, Sens megobarze rogor mirekav da magas rogor meubnebi, roca misi saxeliT modiodi da volskisa da daviT bagrationis piars mTxovdio. Carkvianma eliso kilaZes gancxadebis gamoqveyneba mosTxova, razec pasuxi miiRo, _ moitane da ganvixilavTo. meoredac daureka Carkvianma "qronika+"- is mTavar redaqtors, amjerad imis saTqmelad, rom "qronika+"-isa da, konkretulad, Cemi _ Tamar rostiaSvilis sawinaaRmdego gancxadeba maT "interpresniuss"fasiani sareklamo gverdis saxiT SeukveTes. ai, es gancxadebac: "saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos pressamsaxuri gancxadebas avrcelebs: 24 ianvars gazeTma "qronika+"-ma gamoaqveyna Jurnalist Tamar rostiaSvilis e. w. eqskluziuri interviu nino gvenetaZesTan. uzenaesi sasamarTlos pressamsaxuri acxadebs, rom gazeT "qronika+"-is Jurnalist Tamar rostiaSvilis Sexvedris faqts uzenaesi sasamarTlos TavmjdomaresTan intervius aRebis mizniT adgili ar hqonia. Sesabamisad, 2017 wlis 24 ianvars gazeT "qronika+"-Si gamoqveynebuli statia "eqskluziuri interviu nino gvenetaZesTan", Seicavs informacias, romelic aRebulia a. w. 14 ianvars saqarTvelos mosamarTleTa konferenciaze, uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris yovelwliuri saangariSo moxsenebidan. amasTan, statiaSi Jurnalistis mier viTomda dasmul kiTxvebze pasuxebad gamoyenebulia konteqstidan amoRebuli, sxvadasxva dros gavrcelebuli informacia da, savaraudod, warmoadgens Jurnalistis TviTSemoqmedebas da mis naazrevs. saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlo imeds itovebs, rom aRniSnulze gazeTis redaqcia adekvatur reagirebas moaxdens", _ naTqvamia uzenaesi sasamarTlos gancxadebaSi". es is variantia, sakuTari skamis gadasarCenad yvelafers rom megobars "Seteni" (bodiSi slengisTvis). an, ras niSnavs, Jurnalistma amokrifa "sxvadasxva dros gavrcelebuli informacia da, savaraudod, warmoadgens Jurnalistis TviT- Semoqmedebas da mis naazrevs"? axla ki xaTuna Carkvians minda, mivmarTo: sami dRe damWirda, rom gonze movsuliyavi. sami dRe vismine teqsti, rom rac Carkvianma Caidina, sapatiebeli ar aris. me Jurnalisti var, sagamoZiebo kuTxiT, sakmaod Zlieri skola maqvs gavlili da vmuSaob aseTive Zlier gamocemaSi. ubralod, minda icode, rom Cemgan qvebs nu daelodebi! me im doneze ar davecemi, ra donezec Sen daeci. sul rom saSineleba damewera nino gvenetaZeze, Tanamdeboba megobrobaze win ar unda dageyenebina. me ar davayenebdi. 10 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w. Tamar rostiaSvili

merve gverdidan - jer sad xarT, ivaniSvili, kidev bevr, rames ikadrebs-meTqi. xma veRaravin amoiRo. Tavad „qarTul ocnebaSic” iyvnen murusiZis arCeviT ukmayofilo adamianebi. parlamentarebic ki ambobdnen, araswori gadawyvetileba miiReso. amas mohyva is, rom maSinve gamovarda biZina da ayvirda, _ levan murusiZes Tavi daanebeT, is msxverpliao! yvela uklebliv gaCumda da daikarga. maT Soris daikargnen is adamianebic, romlebic advokatTa asociaciaSi Semxvdnen. vgulisxmob e. w. opoziciur Zalebs, romlebic CemTan erTad aprotestebdnen levan murusiZis arCevas da ambobdnen, rom is iyo qveynis mteri. me maSin Sevxvdi nino burjanaZes, irakli alasanias, irma inaSvils, giorgi gugavas. maT vuTxari, _ biZina aravis SegiyvanT parlamentSi, sanam es Tavad ar moundeba-meTqi. levan murusiZis daniSvna saapelacio palataSi swored amiT aixsneboda, radgan es palata aris arCevnebis sakiTxebis gasaCivrebis bolo instancia. arCevnebi Tu gayalbdeba, is amiT saSualebas mogispobT, erTi saarCevno ubanic rom gada- TvaloT-meTqi. Cemi naTqvami bevrs auxda. „leiboristebi” da burjanaZe biZinasTan garigebulebi ar iyvnen da aprotestebdnen kidevac, rom arCevnebi gauyalbes, magram romelime ubani gadauTvales? rac vTqvi dekemberSi, is asrulda momdevno wlis oqtomberSi. aseTi marTvadi sasamarTlo sWirdeboda ivaniSvils da mas iyenebs kidevac Tavis sasargeblod. yvela diqtatori, romelic ase iqceva, bolos mainc cudad amTavrebs karieras da cxovrebas. magali- Tad, saakaSvili saqarTveloSi ver Camodis. _ Tumca kublaSvili da murusiZe mS- venivrad cxovroben Tavis qveyanaSi da aravin maT pasuxs araferze sTxovs. met- ic, ager, murusiZe igive samuSaos asrulebs... nino gvenetaZec, albaT, ase iqne- ba. vcdebi? _ amitom saWiroa iseTi xelisufleba, rogoric germaniaSi movida faSisturi reJimis damarcxebis Semdeg. iseTi xelisufle- 294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com ba unda avirCioT, romelic amaze wava. germaniaSi niurnbergis procesi rom ar Catarebuliyo, dRes germania msoflioSi pirveli qveyana ar iqneboda da CamorCenili qveynebis ricxvSi CaiTvleboda. italiaSi musolinis reJimis mosamarTleebs eklesiaSi ar uSvebdnen. gasuli saukunis 80-ian wlebSi iq qarTuli delegacia Cavida da ikiTxa, _ es xalxi ratom dgas gverdiTo? upasuxes, _ es is prokurorebi da mosamarTleebi arian, romelTac ufleba ar aqvT, samoqalaqo sazogadoebis gverdiT idgneno. CvenTan gociriZe, sofromaZe da Tordia sufrasTan rom dasxdebian, qarTvelebi maT sadRegr- Zelos yanwiT daleven da did mamuliSvilebs dauZaxeben. ai, es aris Cveni ubedureba. sanam samoqalaqo sazogadoebis azrovneba iqamde ar miva, rom sazogadoebis mtrebi miuReblebi gaxdnen yvelasTvis, manamde araferi gveSveleba. martom vibrZole imisTvis, rom eva gociriZe evropis adamianis uflebaTa dacvis sasamarTlos mosamarTle ar gamxdariyo. marto vebrZodi xelisuflebas da 7 miliardis patron ivaniSvils. yvelaferi gavakeTe imis dasamtkiceblad, rom Tu movindomeT, TiToeul Cvengans SeuZlia daamarcxos uZlevelis mantiiT Semosili ivaniSvili. zogierTma ki arCevnebze erT tomara fqvilze gayida xma. sanam xalxi azrze ar mova da ar ityvis, me minda xelisufleba, romelic murusiZeebsa da im prokurorebs momacilebs, romlebTan vizitis Semdgomac adamianebi keTil sizmrebs naxulobdnen da sakuTar qonebebs saxelmwifos uformebdneno, araferi gveSveleba. arCevnebze or partias hqonda fuli: „nacionalur moZraobasa” da „qarTul ocnebas”. erTma murusiZe Seqmna da meorem murusiZeebs xelSeuxeblobis garantia misca. es gaxlavT erTi da igive boroti Zala, magram xalxma mainc maT misca kartblanSi. arCevnebzec komisiebi gadaibires, an daaSines da isinic, rac amaT undodaT, imas werdnen, Semdeg ki saCivrebze es xmebi aRar gadaiTvales murusiZis daxmarebiT. ase dar- zaza xatiaSvili: `nino gvenetaZe gadaiqca kabaSi gamowyobil murusiZed!~ levan murusiZe Ca saqarTvelo damarcxebuli, biZina da murusiZe ki _ gamarjvebulebi. xolo me bolomde vibrZole eva gociriZis winaaRmdeg da gavitane kidec. evroparlamentis komitetebSi wesieri adamianebi muSaoben. imaT ar ainteresebT, mocemul kandidats 7 miliardi qonebis mflobeli adamiani uWers mxars, Tu ar uWers. gadawyvetilebebi mainc gamoaqvT kanonebidan, Sinagani mrwamsidan da patiosnebidan gamomdinare. ivaniSvils, kvirikaSvilsa da wulukians es xalxi qarTvel parlamentarebSi aeriaT. _ ratom aris saqarTveloSi akrZalu- li mosamarTlis dasja im dros, Tu is danaSauls Caidens? ratom arian am Tanamde- bobaze myofi adamianebi xelSeuxeblebi? _ ar aris akrZaluli maTi dasja. es sistema ivaniSvilis Seqmnilia, radgan is afinansebda mas. aqedan gamomdinare, es sistema misTvis misaRebia. is rogorc emsaxureboda saakaSvils, masac iseve unda moemsaxuros da Tu odesme qveyanas normaluri xelisufleba eRirseba, magaT daWeras ra unda? dilidan saRamomde erTmaneTs ise CauSveben da ityvian, vin romel gadawyvetilebaze ra uTxra, Tavadac gaukvirdebaT. ise, CaSvebac ar dasWirdebaT, faqtebi, sadac sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulebi aSkarad ikveTeba, arsebobs da bevri maTgani xelT gvaqvs kidevac. ase rom, Zalian iolad SeiZleba ara marto rigiTi mosamarTleebis, aramed Tea wulukianis pasuxisgebaSi micemac, radgan Cemi gadacemuli dokumentebi, sadac aSkarad ikveTeboda sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli, damala. es aris gadabmuli jaWvi, romlis erT-erTi rgolic, ra Tqma unda, aris nino gvenetaZe-murusiZisa. valdebuleba mas aqvs aRebuli sasamarTlos swraf da samarTlian ganviTarebaze. sasamarTloSi yvelaferi Zalian cudad mimdinareobs, aqedan gamomdinare, misi danaSaulic didia. Tu am adamians ar undoda usamarTlobebze xelis mowera, jaWvs ar Caebmeboda erT-erT rgolad, an datovebda Tanamdebobas. mas es ar gaukeTebia, amitom yvelaferze, rac sasamarTlo sistemaSi xdeba, swored mas ekisreba pasuxismgebloba. mecxre gverdidan - amis gamo is momxsenebel mosamarTles endo, romelmac gan- Cineba Seutana. andac, man samarTlianobaze daxuWa Tvali da uari Tqva obieqtur mosamarTleobaze. orive varianti danaSaulebrivi qmedebaa uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris mxridan. nino gvenetaZes Tavi moaqvs brZenad, sazogadoebas warmoudga, rogorc devnili mosamarTle da msxverpli, magram Tu es yvelaferi simarTle iyo, maSin dRes rogor aris mdevnelebTan kohabitirebuli da rogor atarebs maTTan Jivil-xivilSi dReebs? Cven vnaxeT fotoebi mosamarTleebis saaxalwlo farTebis, karnavalebisa da taSi-tuSis. im pirebs, romlebic, TiTqos, gvenetaZes sdevnidnen, dRes tortis naWrebiT umaspinZldeba da rodis tyuis, an rodis aris marTali gvenetaZe, rogor unda gavigoT? mosamarTleoba ar aris mudmivi. mantiiT aravin ibadeba da arc kvdeba. aseT saqmeebs mas xSirad gauxseneben da ver Seva istoriaSi, rogorc uzenaesi sasamarTlos samarTliani, obieqturi xelmZRvaneli. _ Tqven ambobT, rom nino gven- etaZes uzenaes sasamarTlosa da saerTo sasamarTloebSi bevri ramis Secvla SeeZlo, magram es ar gaakeTa? _ gvenetaZes sazogadoebis mxridan didi legitimacia hqonda da mas bevri ramis gakeTeba See- Zlo am sferoSi. Tumca yvelam dainaxa, rom am adamianma reformatoruli, swori nabijebi ar gadadga da TiTqmis araferi Secvala sistemaSi, amitom sazogadoebas misi mxridan molodinebi aRar aqvs. „qronika+”-is furclebze mamuka nozaZe: `nino gvenetaZe ver Seva istoriaSi, rogorc uzenaesi sasamarTlos samarTliani Tavmjdomare!~ N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w. gvewera, Tu rogor daakompleqta man uzenaesi sasamarTlo daqalebiT. samwuxarod, es procesi amiT ar amowurula da am uwyebis dakompleqteba gvenetaZisa Tu sxva- Ta nacnob-megobrebiT, daqal- ZmakacebiT kvlav grZeldeba. mokle xanSi Cven SemogTavazebT im adamianebis sias, romlebic swored aseTi formiT arian wamomsxdarni uzenaesi sasamarTlos sxvadasxva samsaxurSi da sakmaod maRal xelfasebsac iReben. Sei- Zleba iTqvas, rom gvenetaZem sakmaod sapasuxismgeblo uwyeba aqcia axlobelTa da megobarTa TavSesafrad. aqedan gamomdinare, iseTi gadawyvetilebebi, rogorsac iq iReben, ar aris gasakviri. roca esa Tu is piri bedavs, erTpirovnulad, konkursebisa da privilegiebis gareSe axloblebisa da megobrebis dawinaurebas, iq obieqturobaze saubaric ki zedmetia. amis Sesaxeb aucileblad unda amoeRoT xma im arasamTavroboebs, romlebic periodulad saubroben xolme sasamarTloebis mxridan garkveul ukanonobebze, magram isini ase ar moiqcnen da ar Seiswavles sakiTxi, ra principiT niSnavs gvenetaZe uzenaes sasamarTloSi, Ria konkursis gareSe, Tanamdebobebze garkveul pirebs? maTi laparakic mxolod piaria. cxadia, gvenetaZes uzenaes sasamarTloSi bevri ramis Secvla SeeZlo. magaliTad, bolomde mieyvana sasamarTlo reformis mesame talRa xelisuflebasTan komunikaciis Sedegad. gansazRvruliyo mosamarTleTa odenoba, rac wingadadgmuli nabiji iqneboda; daewesebina Tundac zepiri mosmeniT saqmeebis ganxilva, sadac ar moxdeboda gadawera pirveli da meore instanciis saqmeebisa da mxareTa sakasacio saCivrebis mixedviT, gacemuli iqneboda dasabuTebuli, argumentirebuli pasuxi, ratom dakmayofilda saCivari, an ar dakmayofilda, magram gvenetaZem xelisuflebasTan da yofili xelisuflebis kvlav maRal Tanamdebobebze wamoWimul pirebTan Caxuteba arCia. gvenetaZes da arsebul xelisuflebas urCevnia, rom Zveli kasta hyavdeT uzenaes sasamarTlo- Si. iq arian „nacionalebis” periodis mosamarTleebi, romlebic, amjerad, „ocnebis” xelisuflebasTan Zalian kargad brZandebian. magaliTad, miSa CinCalaZe, romelic arc erT saqmes ar ixilavs, is iyo adeiSvilis marjvena xeli da ase moxvda am Tanamdebobaze, SeinarCuna arsebuli mdgomareoba da pasuxic araferze mosTxoves. saerTodac, arc erT mosamarTles ar moeTxova pasuxi Cadenil qmedebebze. amitom dRes, saerTo sasamarTloebis kanonSi, romelic parlamentma miiRo, gaCnda debuleba, romlis Tanaxmadac, uzenaesi sasamarTlos yofil wevrs ufleba aqvs, yovelgvari gamosacdeli vadis gareSe, uvadod dainiSnos pirvel da meore instanciis sasamarTlo- Si. Sesabamisad, CinCalaZes da msgavs damnaSave mosamarTleebs sikvdilamde gza xsnili aqvT am uwyebebSi da miuxedavad imisa, rac maT gaakeTes, ufleba miecaT, iyvnen dausjelebi, bednierebi da laRebi. nino gvenetaZem, arqividan amoRebuli, SevardnaZis droindeli mosamarTleebi daabruna xelisuflebaSi. marTalia, mas erTi xma aqvs iusticiis umaRles sab- WoSi, magram Tavisi poziciis ga- JRerebis SemTxvevaSi SeeZlo, gverdiT daeyenebina, Tundac, ise- Ti uwyeba, rogoric aris advokatTa asociacia, axalgazrda iuristTa asociacia, samoqalaqo sazogadoeba, iuristTa farTo wre da sakuTari azri brZoliT gaetana, ar daeSva, Tundac, levan murusiZis gaxdoma kvlav mosamar- Tled, magram am gzas man murisiZesTan Caxutebisa da Sexmatkbilebis gza arCia, rac fotozec kargad Cans. 11