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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N18 (195) 23.05<br />
05.201<br />
.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
ideebs<br />
ra<br />
gv. 7<br />
vuyoT,<br />
soso?!<br />
soso gogaSvilis<br />
cxovrebis kibe<br />
rogor xasiaTze gaiRviZebs<br />
biZina ivaniSvili?<br />
gv. 2<br />
gubaz sanikiZe:<br />
werili Svils<br />
gigi TevzaZe:<br />
`xelisuflebas<br />
dasWirdeba sakuTar<br />
janmrTelobaze fiqri<br />
da ara politikur<br />
momavalze~<br />
gv. 4<br />
gv. 8<br />
`opozicia gadaiqca<br />
molaparake uTavo<br />
arsebad, laparakoben<br />
da aranairi<br />
Sedegi araa~<br />
madloba, deda!<br />
gv. 4 gv. 14<br />
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soso gogaSvilis<br />
rogor xasiaTze<br />
gaiRviZebs biZina<br />
ivaniSvili?<br />
sus-is ufrosis skandaluri moa-<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
dgile, ioseb gogaSvili, metsax-<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
elad „antrikota”, 1972 wlis 16<br />
maiss dedofliswyaros raionis<br />
sofel zemo maCxaanSi daibada.<br />
am monacemebis mixedviT, is horoskopiT<br />
kuroa. astrologebi<br />
amboben, rom kuros uyvars, roca<br />
fexqveS niadags SeigrZnobs, misi<br />
stiqia miwaa. fuli am adamianebisTvis<br />
erT-erTi umTavresi kredo<br />
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win qonebis dagrovebisa da<br />
cxovrebis mowyobis gzaze.<br />
soso gogaSvilis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
astrologebi aSkarad ar cdebian,<br />
„antrikotas” uyvars fuli, es namdvilad<br />
misi umTavresi kredo da<br />
miswrafebaa, _ isteriulad yidulobs<br />
miwebs da namdvilad nabijnabij,<br />
win miiwevs qonebis dagrovebis<br />
gzaze.<br />
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waiRebso, iseve rogorc veraferi<br />
iswavla Cveni winaprebis brZnuli<br />
gamonaTqvamidan, _ cxovreba kibea.<br />
Tu vinmes egona am qveyanaSi Tavi<br />
Seucvleli, es namdvilad vano merabiSvili<br />
iyo. mas qveynis xerxemals<br />
eZaxdnen da policielebi skamze<br />
damdgari svamdnen ministris<br />
sadRegrZelos. am qveyanaSi vano<br />
merabiSvilis saxels policiis reforma<br />
ukavSirdeba da rasac namdvilad<br />
ver waarTmev, is gulwrfelad<br />
uyvardaT rigiT policielebs,<br />
gogaSvilisgan gansxvavebiT.<br />
gogaSvilis saxels mxolod korufcia,<br />
qrTami, araprofesionalizmi<br />
da intrigebi ukavSirdeba. rigiTebi<br />
ki zurgsukan dedas agineben. dadga<br />
dro da qveynis xerxemali „matrosovze”<br />
zis, dadgeba dro da<br />
soso gogaSvili aucileblad moxvdeba<br />
„matrosovze”, radgan im<br />
droSi arc biZina ivaniSvils gaaxsendeba<br />
„antrikotas” saxeli da<br />
gvari da uCa mamacaSvilsac saku-<br />
Tari fuli da momavali eqneba gadasarCeni.<br />
axlo warsulSi aseve iyo dro,<br />
roca soso gogaSvili „dvarniaSka”<br />
ZaRlebs Savi saRebaviT koplebs<br />
axatavda da TbilisSi yidda. mere<br />
iyo „naxalovkaSi” erTi patara xorcis<br />
daxli da farSis distribucia.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, gogaSvils dRemde<br />
dascinian misive TanamSromlebi,<br />
_ yasbobis droindeli Cveva ver<br />
moiSala da xelebs winsafris magier<br />
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mdgomareoba _ is qveynis<br />
specsamsaxuris erT-erTi xelmZRvanelia.<br />
miuxedavad eqvs TveSi mi-<br />
Rebuli polkovnikis Cinisa, saku-<br />
Tar samsaxurSi, tradiciuli gagebiT,<br />
ufrosi ver gaxda. marTalia,<br />
axla doqtoranturas amTavrebs<br />
da saxelmwifo marTvaze pretenziebic<br />
gauCnda, magram Worebis, intrigebisa<br />
da uniaTobis wyalobiT,<br />
dRemde mxolod dacinvis obieqtia.<br />
mTeli misi karieruli da, Sesabamisad,<br />
finansuri winsvla missave<br />
deklaraciebSia asaxuli.<br />
pirveli deklaracia ioseb gogaSvilma<br />
2014 wels saqarTvelos<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros generaluri<br />
inspeqciis (departamenti)<br />
operatiuli uzrunvelyofis sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosis moadgilis<br />
postze Seavso.<br />
am droisTvis misi ojaxi oTxi<br />
sulisgan Sedgeboda: meuRle Tea<br />
martyofliSvili, Svilebi nino,<br />
nikoloz, petre gogaSvilebi.<br />
deklaraciis yvela furceli,<br />
TiTqmis, carielia. am momentisTvis<br />
gogaSvilis ojaxis arc erTi<br />
wevri ar flobs uZrav da moZrav<br />
qonebas, fasian qaRaldebs, sabanko<br />
angariSebs, naRd fulad Tanxas, ar<br />
monawileobs samewarmeo saqmianobaSi.<br />
meuRle Tea martyofliSvili<br />
ss saqarTvelos navTobisa da gazis<br />
korporaciis mTavari specialistia<br />
da misi wliuri xelfasi Seadgens<br />
12 000 lars. ioseb gogaSvils<br />
operatiuli sammarTvelos ufrosis<br />
moadgilis postze 29 923 lari<br />
miuRia, xolo qaliSvili nino gogaSvili<br />
Sss-s generaluri inspeqciis<br />
mTavari specialistia da, Sesabamisad,<br />
wliuri anazRaureba 13<br />
879 lars Seadgens. 2014 wels Sevsebuli<br />
deklaraciis mixedviT, ojaxs<br />
sacxovrebeli saxli ar aqvs,<br />
Sesabamisad, arc misamarTi gaaCnia,<br />
deklaraciaSi arc binis qiris xarjebi<br />
Cans.<br />
es is droa, roca „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
aqtivist gogaSvils premier<br />
irakli RaribaSvilis colis mamidaSvilma,<br />
zviad janyaraSvilma,<br />
wyalobis TvaliT gadmoxeda da<br />
dedofliswyaroeli axlobeli<br />
mama-Svili geninspeqciaSi daasaqma.<br />
am dros janyaraSvili, albaT,<br />
verc ifiqrebda, rom Zalian male<br />
mdgmuri iqneboda sakuTar samsaxurSi<br />
da mis adgils swored gogaSvili<br />
daikavebda.<br />
2015 wlis deklaracia ioseb<br />
gogaSvilma ukve Sinagan saqmeTa<br />
ministris pirveli moadgilis rangSi<br />
Seavso. am droisTvis misi<br />
ojaxi isev oTxsuliania, ojaxs sakuTrebaSi<br />
uZravi da moZravi qoneba<br />
isev ar gaaCnia. am deklaraciaSi<br />
pirvelad Cndeba naRdi fuli,<br />
ioseb gogaSvils wina wlis xelfasidan<br />
(29 923 lari) mxolod 4000<br />
dolari gadaudevs, samagierod, kapiki<br />
kapikze miuwebebia mis meuRle<br />
Tea martyofliSvils da 8000 lari<br />
mougrovebia. am wels ioseb gogaSvils<br />
Sss generaluri inspeqciisa<br />
da sasazRvro policiis sagamoZiebo<br />
operatiuli sammarTvelos ufrosis<br />
moadgilis, mT. sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosis moadgilis postebze<br />
anazRaurebis saxiT sul 49 205<br />
lari miuRia, misi meuRle Tea martyofliSvili<br />
isev ss saqarTvelos<br />
navTobisa da gazis korporaciis<br />
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cxovrebis kibe<br />
mTavari specialistia da misi wliuri<br />
jamagiri 31 318 lari da 43<br />
TeTria. qaliSvili nino gogaSvili<br />
isev Sss generalur inspeqciaSi<br />
muSaobs mTavar specialistad da<br />
misi wliuri anazRaureba 16 352<br />
lars Seadgens. 2015 wels gogaSvils<br />
gasavalic hqonia, _ 5000 lari<br />
gadauxdia Svilis swavlisTvis.<br />
sacxovrebeli saxli gogaSvilebis<br />
ojaxs arc am deklaraciis mixedviT<br />
aqvs, iseve rogorc deklaraciaSi<br />
ar Cans, ixdis Tu ara<br />
„antrikota” binis qiras.<br />
2016 wels ioseb gogaSvili ukve<br />
saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosis pirveli moadgilea.<br />
am droisTvis ojaxis wevrebad mxolod<br />
meuRle da ori Svili hyavs<br />
miTiTebuli.<br />
2016 wels iosebs horoskopis<br />
gavlena aSkarad etyoba, misi qonebebis<br />
CamonaTvalSi Cndeba miwis<br />
nakveTi dedofliswyaros raionis<br />
sofel zemo maCxaanSi, Siraqsa da<br />
nagomrebSi, sul 12502 kv.m.; amave<br />
deklaraciis mixedviT, miwis ori<br />
nakveTis mflobeli xdeba misi Svili<br />
nikoloz gogaSvili. dedofliswyaros<br />
raionis sofel zemo maCxaanSi<br />
erTi miwis nakveTis moculoba<br />
1038 kv.m.-ia, meoresi 500 _ kv.m.,<br />
nikoloz gogaSvilis sakuTreba-<br />
Sia, aseve, sacxovrebeli saxli dedofliswyaros<br />
raionis sofel<br />
zemo maCxaanSi.<br />
deklaraciis mixedviT, ar Cans,<br />
mama-Svilma gogaSvilebma miwis nakveTebi<br />
da sacxovrebeli saxli<br />
memkvidreobiT miiRes mSobliur<br />
sofelSi, Tu SeiZines?<br />
2016 wlis deklaraciis mixedviT,<br />
ioseb gogaSvilsa da mis<br />
meuRles sakuTar SemosavlebTan<br />
SedarebiT arabunebrivad zedmeti<br />
naRdi fuli gauCndaT, _ ioseb<br />
gogaSvils 85 aTasi lari, Tea martyofliSvils<br />
25 000 lari. maSin,<br />
roca Sinagan saqmeTa ministris moadgilis<br />
postze gogaSvilis wliuri<br />
anazRaureba 77 777 lari da 92<br />
TeTria, mTeli xelfasi romc Seenaxa<br />
da kapiki ar daexarja, rac absurduli<br />
da warmoudgenelia, naRdi<br />
fulis odenoba xelfass mainc<br />
aRemateba. Tea martyofliSvili am<br />
droisTvis ukve Sp saqarTvelos<br />
gazis transportirebis kompaniaSi<br />
administraciis ufrosis moadgilea<br />
da xelfasic, dakavebul TanamdebobasTan<br />
SedarebiT, arabunebrivad<br />
maRali aqvs _ 59280 lari;<br />
ioseb gogaSvils saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />
usafrTxoebis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosis pirveli moadgilis<br />
postze colze naklebi anazRaureba<br />
_ 58 495 lari miuRia. gogaSvili<br />
ar cnobs sabanko angariSebs, astrologebis<br />
mier misTvis gansazRvruli<br />
fulis siyvaruli, rogorc<br />
Cans, gansakuTrebiT mZafria. sxvagvarad,<br />
TiTqmis, auxsnelia, ratom<br />
unda inaxavdes saxlSi 85 000 lars<br />
sus-is ufrosis moadgile?<br />
2017 wlis deklaraciaSi ioseb<br />
gogaSvils mxolod ojaxis ori<br />
wevri hyavs miTiTebuli: meuRle<br />
Tea matyofliSvili da Svili petre<br />
gogaSvili.<br />
wina wlebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
sus-is ufrosis moadgiles dedaqalaqSi<br />
ukve sakuTari misamarTi da<br />
sacxovrebeli saxli aqvs: 100 kv.m.<br />
TbilisSi, avTo varazis q.91-Si mas<br />
2016 wels 75 000 dolarad SeuZenia,<br />
amave fasSi Sedis miwis nakveTic,<br />
romlis farTobic deklaraciaSi<br />
miTiTebuli ar aris; miwis nakveTi<br />
dedofliswyaros raionis<br />
sofel zemo maCxaanSi, Siraqsa da<br />
nagomrebSi, saerTo frTiT, 1250<br />
kv.m. gogaSvils sakuTrebaSi miReba-Cabarebis<br />
aqtis safuZvelze gadascemia<br />
(visgan _ deklaraciaSi<br />
dakonkretebuli ar aris). Tea martyofliSvils<br />
msubuqi avtomanqana,<br />
2016 wels gamoSvebuli „toiota<br />
prado”, saxelmwifo nomriT<br />
PE999TR, 37 400 $-ad SeuZenia. gogaSvilis<br />
meuRle isev Sps saqar-<br />
Tvelos gazis transportirebis<br />
kompaniis administraciis ufrosis<br />
moadgiled muSaobs, magram misTvis<br />
anazRaureba moumatebiaT da, amjerad,<br />
wliuri jamagiri 72 158<br />
lars da 13 TeTrs Seadgens, aseve<br />
gazrdila Tavad ioseb gogaSvilis<br />
wliuri anazRaurebac, _ mas usafrTxoebis<br />
saagentos ufrosis<br />
moadgilis postze 142 609 lari da<br />
50 TeTri miuRia. ojaxis arc erT<br />
wevrs naRdi fuli aRar aqvs, samagierod,<br />
Tavad soso gogaSvils<br />
ipoTekuri sesxi auRia 76500 $<br />
odenobiT (banki miTiTebuli araa);<br />
aseve samomxmareblo sesxi 20410-is<br />
odenobiT „saqarTvelos bankidan”<br />
avtomanqanis SesaZenad auRia Tea<br />
martyofliSvils; ioseb gogaSvils<br />
75 000 $-ad SeZenili saxlis<br />
saremonto samuSaoebSi 60 000 $, avejisa<br />
da teqnikis SesaZenad ki 25 000<br />
$ dauxarjavs. ratom ar swyalobs<br />
sus-is ufrosis moadgile erovnul<br />
valutas, an ratom daiangariSa saremonto<br />
samuSaoebis, avejisa da teqnikis<br />
xarjebi amerikul dolarSi<br />
maSin, roca mas Semosavali mxolod<br />
larSi hqonda, sruliad gaugebaria.<br />
esec, albaT, soso gogaSvilis astrologiuri<br />
xasiaTis im Tvisebis<br />
gamovlinebaa, fuli rom uyvars da<br />
nabij-nabij miiwevs win uZravi<br />
qonebis SeZenis gzaze.<br />
cxadia, deklaraciaSi ar asaxula<br />
is uZrav-moZravi qoneba, romelic<br />
soso gogaSvils sakuTari colisdis,<br />
xaTuna matyofliSvilisa da<br />
sakuTari qaliSvilis saxelze aqvs<br />
gaformebuli. sxvaTa Soris, miuxedavad<br />
piarisa, rom gogaSvilma sakuTari<br />
qaliSvili samsaxuridan<br />
gaaTavisufla, nino gogaSvili isev<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros generalur<br />
inspeqciaSi muSaobs.<br />
es aris soso gogaSvilis cxovrebis<br />
kibe cifrebSi, romelic<br />
naTlad asaxavs, rogor iqca erTi<br />
uqoneli farSis distributori<br />
fulian saxelmwifo moxeled.<br />
axla mas rTuli dReebi udgas,<br />
skandalebSia gaxveuli da gaTenebas<br />
SiSiT elodeba, _ ar icis,<br />
rogor xasiaTze gaiRviZebs biZina<br />
ivaniSvili SeunarCunebs Tu waar-<br />
Tmevs simwriT mopovebul fulsa<br />
da qonebas.<br />
asea, soso, _ cxovreba kibea.<br />
kargad daimaxsovre!<br />
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plebisciti, an referendumi,<br />
darwmunebuli var, Cveni qveynis<br />
mosaxleobis didi nawili saprezidento<br />
respublikas dauWers mxars.<br />
erTi sakiTxia, rom saakaSvili<br />
cudi prezidenti iyo, es im sistemis<br />
brali ki ar gaxldaT, TviTon<br />
iyo personis brali. rodesac personis<br />
problemaa, es ar niSnavs, rom<br />
instituciebi unda davlewoT, rac<br />
moxda saqarTveloSi. miT umetes,<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi, rodesac saparlamento<br />
respublika ver itans er-<br />
Tpartiul sistemas, Cven miviReT<br />
erTpartiuli sistema, anu sruli<br />
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miviReT xeibari saxelmwifo<br />
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gulisxmobs, Tu saparlamentoa<br />
Zleba Zalian kargi adamiani iyos,<br />
es calke Temaa, magram institucionalurad<br />
dRes qveyanas mar-<br />
Tavs adamiani, romelic pasuxs ar<br />
agebs araferze, magram yvelafris<br />
ufleba aqvs da maxinji sistema<br />
gvaqvs. amitom mTeli es oromtriali<br />
aRiarebul opoziciasa da<br />
titulovan saxelisuflebo partias<br />
Soris, vgulisxmob „qarTul<br />
ocnebasa” da „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />
or frTas _ „evropul saqarTvelosa”<br />
da „nacionalur moZraobas”,<br />
es aris erT xmaSi Catarebuli<br />
opera, erTmaneTi Zalian sWirdebaT,<br />
feri fers da madli RmerTso.<br />
amocana ra aris, _ sxvam xma<br />
ar unda amoiRos, sxva ar unda gamoCndes<br />
da sxvisi ignorireba unda<br />
moxdes. televiziebisa da mediasa-<br />
Sulebebis udidesi nawili gayofilia<br />
orad, ra Tqma unda, amas<br />
yvelaze meti investicia Sedis CineTSi.<br />
amitom, es aris Cveni Zvirfasi<br />
liberalebis gamogonili bodva,<br />
romelTa poziciebi dasavle-<br />
TSi ukve mniSvnelovnad Seryeulia<br />
da uares mdgomareobaSi aRmoCndebian.<br />
Cven ukve SevdivarT postliberalizmis<br />
epoqaSi. gamogonilia is,<br />
rom ekonomikurad ver ganvviTardebiT.<br />
davsvaT SekiTxva, _ es miwebi<br />
rom gavyidoT, daaxloebiT, milioni<br />
ha gvaqvs axla Cven, saSualo<br />
jamSi, saqarTvelo erTjeradad<br />
miiRebs, yvelaze kargi variantiT,<br />
sam miliard dolars. sami miliardi<br />
dolari ramdeni xani gveyofa?<br />
erTi wlis biujetic ar aris!<br />
amitom es aris tyuili, TiTqos<br />
amis gareSe saqarTvelo ar ganvi-<br />
Tardeba. ratom ar ganviTardeba?!<br />
Tavisufali ekonomikuri zonebis<br />
principiT rom viaroT, ra uWirs?!<br />
ri iqneboda?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, mivesalmebi<br />
„qronika+”-is mkiTxvels. ra Tqma<br />
unda, orive Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
sakiTxia _ prezidentis arCevis<br />
wesi da gadaunawilebeli mandatebis<br />
naSTis bed-iRbali, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
qarTul mediasa da sazogadoebaSi<br />
Camoyalibda azri,<br />
rom es sakiTxebia ZiriTadi. Cveni<br />
politikuri partiisTvis es ar<br />
aris ZiriTadi sakiTxebi, CvenTvis<br />
yvelaze mTavaria miwis kerZo saku-<br />
Trebis sakiTxi, rac, samwuxarod,<br />
maqsimalurad ignorirebulia xelisuflebisa<br />
da opoziciis didi<br />
nawilis mier.<br />
_ miwis sakiTxebze calke min-<br />
da gkiTxoT...<br />
_ rac Seexeba prezidentis instituts,<br />
Cvens partias gansxvavebuli<br />
mosazreba aqvs. Cven varT<br />
prezidentis Zlieri institutis<br />
momxre. viciT, rodesac mixeil saakaSvilma<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebi<br />
daiwyo, ratom gadaiyvana qveyana<br />
e. w. saparlamento respublikaze,<br />
imitom, rom mas undoda gaexangrZlivebina<br />
xelisuflebaSi yofna.<br />
saparlamento respublikis pirobebSi<br />
premier-ministrs SeuZlia<br />
700-jer gaxdes premir-ministri,<br />
radgan SezRudva ar aris. amitom<br />
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modelze da ara demokratiis<br />
ganviTarebisTvis. veravin<br />
daamtkica msoflioSi, romeli ufro<br />
efeqtiania _ saparlamento Tu<br />
saprezidento modeli? magram me<br />
piradad da Cems politikur organizacias<br />
miaCnia, rom saqarTvelos<br />
Tavisi eTnofsiqikuri mdgomareobidan<br />
gamomdinare, ar SeiZleba<br />
hqondes saparlamento sistema, es<br />
unda iyos Zlieri saprezidento<br />
instituciis mqone qveyana. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, rodesac Cven saparlamento<br />
respublikisken daviwyeT svla, xalxisTvis<br />
araferi gvikiTxavs, arc<br />
gubaz sanikiZe:<br />
qveyana, maSin prezidenti iq ar unda<br />
airCes. am SemTxvevaSi xelisufleba<br />
marTalia, magram TviTon es<br />
sistema, saqarTvelo ar unda iyos<br />
saparlamento respublika. saqar-<br />
Tvelo unda iyos saprezidento<br />
respublika, sadac prezidenti iqneba<br />
arCeuli saerTo-saxalxo wesiT.<br />
amitom Cveni politikuri organizacia<br />
principulad ar eTanxmeba<br />
rogorc xelisuflebas, ise<br />
opoziciis did nawils. amitom, am<br />
SemTxvevaSi, Cven varT opoziciaSi<br />
rogorc xelisuflebasTan, ise<br />
opoziciuri speqtris did nawilTan,<br />
radgan qveyana ar midis swori<br />
instituciuri cvlilebebiT, saqarTvelo<br />
ar unda iyos saparlamento<br />
respublika, amas geubnebiT me,<br />
gubaz sanikiZe, romelic wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi vTvlidi, rom unda<br />
yofiliyo saparlamento respublika,<br />
magram dRes Zalian Rrmad<br />
var darwmunebuli da mimaCnia, rom<br />
saqarTvelo unda iyos saprezidento<br />
respublika. dRes saqarTvelo<br />
aris uTavo qveyana rogorc instituciurad,<br />
aseve personalurad,<br />
Tan im pirobebsa da garemocvaSi,<br />
raSic saqarTveloa da is cecxlovani<br />
rkali, romelic Cven garSemo<br />
trialebs _ CrdiloeTSi, ukraina-<br />
Si, CrdiloeT kavkasia rodis gaskdeba,<br />
aravin icis, yarabaRis konfliqtis<br />
ganaxlebis sakiTxi mdgomareobs<br />
mxolod da mxolod dro-<br />
Si. rom gaskdeba, mgoni, sadavo ar<br />
aris. samxreTidan safrTxe gviaxlovdeba,<br />
siriis konfliqti ukve<br />
didi xania, marto siriis konfliqti<br />
aRar aris, TurqeTSic sakmaod<br />
arastabiluri viTarebaa, Zalian<br />
seriozuli problema aqvs TurqeTs<br />
_ qurTuli saxelmwifos Seqmnis<br />
sakiTxi. am pirobebSi Cven varT<br />
uTavo qveyana da Tavi gvaqvs iq, sadac<br />
ar unda gvqondes, anu araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba gvaqvs.<br />
aris erTi adamiani, romelic Sei-<br />
`cota xanSi xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs sakuTar<br />
janmrTelobaze fiqri<br />
dasWirdebaT da ara<br />
politikur momavalze~<br />
yvelaze ver vityvi, erTi nawili<br />
aris „nacmoZraobis” mxareze, meore<br />
nawilia „ocnebis” mier kontrolirebadia.<br />
mTavari sakiTxi miiCqmala,<br />
rac samomavlod gansazRvravs<br />
saqarTvelos yofna-aryofnis<br />
sakiTxs, es aris miwis sakiTxi.<br />
Zalian ar siamovnebs xelisuflebas<br />
da arc „nacmoZraobas”, rodesac<br />
miwis sakiTxze elaparakebi,<br />
orive erTnairad dums da Zalian<br />
emsgavseba am dros erTmaneTs, roca<br />
am sakiTxze saubroben. erTnairebi<br />
arian imitom, rom miwis gasxviseba<br />
daiwyo mixeil saakaSvilma<br />
da dRes „qarTuli ocneba” apirebs,<br />
es gaagrZelos.<br />
_ Tqveni azriT, ucxoelebze<br />
miwis miyidvis sakiTxze konstit-<br />
uciaSi optimaluri Canaweri, sava-<br />
raudod, rogori SeiZleba iyos?<br />
_ pirdapir unda Caiweros, rom<br />
miwa ar unda gaiyidos sxva qveynis<br />
moqalaqeebze, Zalian martivad da<br />
gasagebad, ra problemaa?<br />
_ calkeuli eqspertebis,<br />
politikuri partiebisa Tu arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebis mxridan<br />
ismis aseTi azri, rom es Canaw-<br />
eri xels SeuSlis ekonomikis gan-<br />
viTarebas, ar iqneba demokratiuli<br />
gadawyvetileba, is aseve ewinaaRmdegeba<br />
sakonstitucio sasa-<br />
marTlos gadawyvetilebas...<br />
_ demokratia ra aris, saerTod,<br />
ician? demokratiis mTavari principi<br />
is aris, rom, pirvel rigSi,<br />
umravlesobis principi gaiTvaliswinon<br />
da Semdeg modis umciresobis<br />
interesebis gaTvaliswineba.<br />
_ Tqven ra safrTxeebs xedavT<br />
ucxoelebze miwis gasxvisebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi?<br />
_ Zalian martivad gipasuxebT:<br />
sul axlaxan vizitiT viyavi Cine-<br />
Tis saxalxo respublikaSi. CineTis<br />
masStabebze aRar SevCerdebi, iq<br />
akrZalulia miwis kerZo sakuTreba,<br />
CineTSi investiciebi ar Sedis?<br />
magaliTad, zRvispireTSi iyos, magram<br />
ar iyos kaxeTSi, ra gviSlis<br />
xels?! miwas aqvs ori mniSvneloba<br />
_ erTi ekonomikuri da meore _<br />
sakraluri. sakraluri aris RvTaebrivi,<br />
dafaruli. miwa rom sakraluri<br />
mniSvnelobisaa, es marto poeziis<br />
sakiTxi ar aris, am miwaSi Casulia<br />
tonobiT sisxli, Cvenma winaparma<br />
sakuTari Tavi gadado, rom<br />
araferi vTqvaT saqarTvelos istoriaze,<br />
romelic aris omebis<br />
istoria, rom qarTvelma erma SeinarCunos<br />
Tavisi miwebi. samwuxarod,<br />
Cven Cveni istoriuli teritoriis<br />
1/3 davkargeT. viRacam SeiZleba<br />
ikiTxos, _ ras niSnavs qarTuli<br />
miwa, miwa miwaa, me aseT adamianebTan<br />
ar vkamaTob. maSin, ras niSnavs,<br />
ra aris siyvaruli, an siZulvili?!<br />
amis materializeba xdeba? filosofiur<br />
wiaRsvlebSi ar Seval,<br />
sakraluri gadavwioT gverdiT da<br />
mxolod ekonomikurze mSralad<br />
vilaparakoT. dRes dedamiwis mosaxleobam<br />
karga xania, Svid miliars<br />
gadaaWarba, es aris gaeros<br />
cifrebi, Svidi miliardidan or<br />
miliard adamians aqvs SimSilobis<br />
problema da or miliard adamians<br />
aqvs imis problemebi, rom janmr-<br />
Tel wyalTan ar aqvs kontaqti.<br />
wyali aris dasalevi saSualeba,<br />
radgan adamianis organizmis 2/3-s<br />
Seadgens, es aris higiena da sursaTTan<br />
kavSiri. or miliard kacs<br />
ar aqvs wvdoma janmrTel wyalTan,<br />
ori miliardi adamiani aris mudmivad<br />
im xifaTis qveS, rom SeiZleba<br />
SimSiliT amowydes. es ricxvi<br />
gaizrdeba imitom, rom modis ekologiuri<br />
problemebi, globaluri<br />
daTbobis problemebi, wylis maragebi<br />
mcirdeba, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
21-e saukunes eZaxian uwylobisa<br />
da SimSilis saukunes. qarTvelebs<br />
didi miwebi ar gvaqvs, magram<br />
rac gvaqvs, es aris saukeTesoze<br />
saukeTeso, sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
miwebi, daaxloebiT, milioni heqtaria<br />
da gvaqvs wylis didi maragebi.<br />
yvelas unda, rom moipovos kontroli<br />
wyalzec da miwazec, msoflioSi<br />
es procesi globalur saxes<br />
atarebs. Cven rogor unda moviqceT<br />
_ yvela Cvens mezobels Tvali<br />
uWiravs Cvens miwaze da wyalze:<br />
rusebi, azerbaijanelebi, somxebi,<br />
Turqebi, iranelebi, uaxloes samezoblos<br />
vambob, Sors ar mivdivar,<br />
saintereso is aris, rom romlebic<br />
axla CamovTvale, yvelas Cvenze<br />
meti finansuri SesaZlebloba aqvs,<br />
rusebsac, azerbaijansac da Tqven<br />
warmoidgineT, somxebsac, radgan<br />
Zalian didi diaspora hyavT, iranelebsac<br />
da Turqebsac. Cven ra SeiZleba<br />
amas davupirispiroT? _<br />
fuli ar gvaqvs, Tavs ver davicavT.<br />
Tu gaviTvaliswinebT imas, rom<br />
siduxWiresa da siRaribeSi vcxovrobT<br />
da or kapikad SeiZleba<br />
mamapapiseuli saxli gayidos qar-<br />
Tvelma, rasac masobrivi xasiaTi<br />
aqvs, erTaderTi, SeiZleba, kanoniT<br />
davakanonoT. visac saqarTveloSi<br />
Semosvla unda, cudebi ki ar arian,<br />
maT TavianTi interesebi aqvT.<br />
Cven mTavar kanonSi, konstitucia-<br />
Si unda CavweroT, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
miwa ar gaiyideba sxva qveynis<br />
moqalaqeze, morCa da gaTavda,<br />
gamosavali martivia! xelisufleba<br />
dadis axla igav-arakebiT, Cvenc<br />
ase vfiqrobT, magram organuli<br />
kanoniT davareguliroTo. ase ar<br />
aris, dRes erTi parlamentia, romelic<br />
am organul kanons miiRebs<br />
da xval sxva parlamenti rom mova,<br />
SeiZleba iman gaauqmos. xom arian<br />
didi patriotebi, didi qarTvelebi,<br />
daviT aRmaSeneblisa da ilias<br />
mimdevrebi, bevri fiqrobs, rom<br />
maT gadaaswres kidec, CavweroT<br />
konstituciaSi da davisvenebT! eWvebic<br />
gaqreba, taSs davukravT xelisuflebas,<br />
ratom ar akeTeben?!<br />
_ Tqven ras ukavSirebT, ratom<br />
ar akeTeben?<br />
_ imitom, rom miwis gayidva undaT!<br />
akvirdebiT, rogori procesi<br />
midis? aTeuli ojaxi yidulobs am<br />
miwebs, aranormaluri raodenobiT<br />
da elodeba raRacas. ras elodeba?<br />
_ investiciis Cadebas ar apireben,<br />
mere unda gayidon viRacebze,<br />
sxva qveynis moqalaqeebze. qarTvelebi<br />
ise davrCebiT, ise miva Cveni<br />
Taobis saqme, rom yvelaze sawyevari<br />
Taoba viqnebiT Cven, dRes<br />
vinc varT. gadametebuli naTqvami<br />
ar aris, momavali Taoba Cvens saflavebze<br />
wiTel kvercxs aRar<br />
gadaagorebs.<br />
_ es calkeuli adamianebis gam-<br />
didrebis gegmaa, Tu raime ufro<br />
globaluri politikuri movle-<br />
na?<br />
_ orive erTad, xeli xels hbans!<br />
Tu davukvirdebiT, samecniero ga-<br />
4 N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.
dacemebia, literaturaa, internetSi<br />
SegviZlia amis Sesaxeb wakiTxva,<br />
Zalian bevri problema modis,<br />
aris qveynebi, romelTac ukve<br />
sasursaTo problemebi daewyo,<br />
Cvens uaxloes samezobloSic.<br />
_ sxva sakiTxze gadavediT da<br />
gaunawilebel mandatebze ar gi-<br />
pasuxiaT. Tqven rogor ggoniaT,<br />
ratom ar Tmobs xelisufleba am<br />
mandatebs?<br />
_ gaunawilebel mandatebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, piradad me, ar maqvs<br />
Camoyalibebuli mosazreba, magram<br />
ratom ar SeiZleba iseTive SefardebiT<br />
gaiyos, ra Sefardebi-<br />
Tac aiReben partiebi? es aris qurdoba!<br />
mizezad mohyavT, qveynis<br />
stabilur ganviTarebaSi xels<br />
gviSliano, „qarTuli ocnebis” argumentia,<br />
Cven es xmebi imitom gvWirdeba,<br />
kargad gacxovroT da Tqven<br />
TviTon gviSliT xelso. kretinizms<br />
xom aqvs sazRvari, magram<br />
rogorc Cans, usazRvro cnebaa,<br />
aqeT gtenian problemebs! magali-<br />
Tad, mohyavT daqceuli da amogdebuli<br />
saberZneTi. rogor kargad<br />
viTardeba saberZneTi, xom xe-<br />
is” liderebi amis gamo uxasiaTod<br />
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bnela, ar gvesmis Tu ra xdeba?..<br />
_ regionebis ganxilvebis kva-<br />
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iyo, magram momxdarma molod-<br />
ins gadaaWarba...<br />
_ aba, ras miiRebdnen, filarmoniaSi<br />
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gaqvs, xolo roca gayidi, imas<br />
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problema ivaniSvilis xelisu-<br />
flebidan CamoSorebaa?<br />
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arian, aramed rogor Tanamdebobaze<br />
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daanebos yvela problemaze fiqrs<br />
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erTze _ miwis sakiTxze. xelisufleba<br />
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mere ukve dafiqrdeba. Cveni<br />
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vidre politikuri partiebi. problema<br />
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is, rogor movaxerxebT amas politikosebi.<br />
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miwis gayidvis skaiTxma am<br />
qveyanaSi revoluciac moaxdinos,<br />
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iol gamosavals eZeben da rodesac<br />
iols naxulob, yovelTvis kisers<br />
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dros, Zalian xSirad mesmis ukve<br />
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udis!<br />
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avtoritetis Seryeva, maT Soris,<br />
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ise ver Searyies imitom,<br />
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sxvaTa Soris, samuSao dRes acdeninebdnen<br />
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ocnebis” mier moyvanilma publikam<br />
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rom gkiTxon, qalaq zugdidSio<br />
ver ityvi, radgan qalaqi<br />
aRar aris. amas imitom akeTeben,<br />
rom TviTmmarTveloba aris yvelaze<br />
realuri instrumenti, rom<br />
xeli SeuSalos miwis gayidvas, amitom<br />
es kompleqsSi xdeba, miwa rom<br />
gaiyideba, TviTmmarTvelobebic<br />
unda gaqres.<br />
_ Tqven mxolod miwis gayidvis<br />
sakiTxs ukavSirebT amas? gaiJR-<br />
era aseTma mosazrebam: „ocnebas”<br />
kandidaturebi ar hyavs da TviT-<br />
mmarTvelobis arCevnebze Zalian<br />
gauWirdebao...<br />
_ esec aris, magram es sakiTxi<br />
ar aris gadamwyveti, Cven iseTi<br />
sakadro politika vnaxeT „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” pirobebSi, vfiqrob,<br />
axla es problema ar aris. „qarTul<br />
ocnebas” Tu gauxardeba, merad<br />
karadas daayenebs, mTavaria, iyos<br />
utyvi!<br />
_ moqalaqeebi sxvadasxva sak-<br />
iTxis irgvliv ukve lokalur<br />
saprotesto aqciebs mimarTaven,<br />
magaliTad xandos xeobis mcx-<br />
ovrebTa protestic gamodgeba.<br />
rogor fiqrobT, SesaZloa, Tun-<br />
dac, miwis sakiTxebze protesti<br />
quCaSi gadavides da farTomas-<br />
Stabiani xasiaTi miiRos? Seswevs<br />
sazogadoebas amis unari?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, sazogadoebas es<br />
Seulia, mTavari problemaa, rogor<br />
movaxdinoT am protestis akumulireba.<br />
aris ramdenime politikuri<br />
partia, romelic Cven Wkuazea,<br />
sxvaTa Soris, es sakiTxi wyalgamyofi<br />
unda gavxadoT, romeli partiis<br />
wevri xar, is ki ar unda vikiTxoT,<br />
vis partiaSi xar, is ki ar unda<br />
vikiTxoT, SekiTxva ase unda dais-<br />
N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.<br />
daikaves maTi teritoriebi, iciT,<br />
ra qnes? am gaqceul ltolvilebs<br />
fuli gadauxades, anu is miwebi iyides,<br />
saxelmwifom ki ara, kerZo<br />
fondebma iyides. dRes palestinelebi<br />
veRar iTxoven, rom miwebi<br />
daubrunon, radgan masSi fuli<br />
aqvT aRebuli. yvelaze mZime, rasac<br />
verasodes daibruneb, es aris gayiduli<br />
miwa! eseni amas apireben!<br />
„ocnebis” wevrebis 80% Cumad knavis,<br />
_ arc Cven gvinda miwis gayidva,<br />
magram xmas ver viRebTo. ratom<br />
ver iReben xmas, gveleSapi adgaT<br />
Tavze Tu ra? imitom ver iReben<br />
xmas, rom biZinas unda, miwa gaiyidos.<br />
rad unda axla amas bevri laparaki<br />
_ biZina ivaniSvils unda,<br />
rom miwa gaiyidos, morCa da gaTavda!<br />
romSi iyo imperatori deciusi,<br />
warmarTi, romelic qristianobas<br />
devnida, wesad SemoiRo, rom<br />
romis yvela moqalaqes msxverpli<br />
unda Seewira warmarTuli RvTaebisTvis.<br />
qristianebs, romlebic amas<br />
ar akeTebdnen, awamebdnen. rodesac<br />
Seswiravdnen, e. w. libeliss, cnobas<br />
aZlevdnen, rom Sen imperators<br />
ukve Seswire msxverpli, loialuri<br />
xar imperatoris kultis mimarT,<br />
aRar xar morwmune da qristiani,<br />
midi da icxovreo. magram uars ambobdi<br />
Sens RmerTze. daaxloebiT<br />
aseT mdgomareobaSi varT, vinc er-<br />
Tgulebis fics ar Sehficebs biZina<br />
ivaniSvils, mas libeliss ar aZleven!<br />
„ocnebaSi” xalxi rom knavis<br />
da Senken varTo, CumCumad meubneba,<br />
kameras rom dainaxaven da ibriqebian,<br />
imaT libelisi ukve aRebuli<br />
aqvT, imperators msxverpli<br />
ukve Seswires! orive ar gamova, an<br />
erTi airCie, an _ meore. patrioti<br />
var, magram xmas ver viReb, ase ar<br />
aris! TavianTi Svilebis momavals<br />
hyidian, romelTac Semdeg saflavidan<br />
moTxrian. samwuxarod, Cven-<br />
Tan amdens ar fiqroben! yvelas<br />
erTi da igive emarTeba!<br />
fiqri dasWirdebaT da ara politikur<br />
momavalze.<br />
_ am Tvis bolos daviT usu-<br />
faSvili centristuli moZraobiT<br />
Semodis politikur asparezze,<br />
aris informacia, rom mas Tqveni<br />
yofili partia SuerTdeba kaxa<br />
Sartavas saxiT. SegiZliaT gviT-<br />
xraT, moitans Tu ara am partiis<br />
Semosvla raime saxis politikur<br />
Zvras, Tundac, moaxloebuli adg-<br />
ilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebze?<br />
_ jer verafers vityvi, Camoyalibdes,<br />
daviT usufaSvils Zalian<br />
did pativs vcem, magram aris sakiTxebi,<br />
sadac Cven ar varT Tanamoazreebi<br />
da verc verasdros<br />
viqnebiT, Tumca pativiscemas vadastureb.<br />
Camoyalibdes jer es<br />
moZraoba da mere visaubroT, Seicvleba<br />
Tu ara politikuri amindi.<br />
jer oficialurad kaxa Sartavasac<br />
ar gaukeTebia amis Sesaxeb<br />
gancxadeba, roca gaakeTeben, mere<br />
vityvi Cems mosazrebas.<br />
_ bolo periodSi iaraRisa Tu<br />
narkotikuli saSualebebis Cadebis<br />
Tema Zalian aqtualuri gax-<br />
da. ori dRis win strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos qarTveli mosamarT-<br />
lis Zmis ojaxSi iaraRis Cadebis<br />
faqti moxda. yofili mTavari<br />
prokuroris erT dReSi gamilio-<br />
nerebis ambavic gavigeT. detaleb-<br />
Si nu SevalT da mtyuan-marTals<br />
nu gavarCevT. am fonze, ras<br />
fiqrobT, ra procesebia xelisu-<br />
flebaSi dawyebuli?<br />
_ am faqtebze zusti informacia<br />
ar maqvs, Tumca aseTi ambebi<br />
ufro xSirad gvesmis, vidre adre<br />
xdeboda. es yvelaferi aris sisustis<br />
da araprofesionalizmis gamovlineba,<br />
susti yovelTvis araprofesionalia<br />
da araprofesionali<br />
yovelTvis sustia. ar ician,<br />
danaSauls efeqtiani devna da analitikuri<br />
tvini unda. adamiani rom<br />
dasawyveti ar aris, es ufro zemoT<br />
wydeba. es saqme xelisuflebis<br />
gakeTebuls hgavs, specsamsaxurebis.<br />
ver davadastureb, magram<br />
aseTi eWvi maqvs. araviTari gareSe<br />
Zalebi aq ar arian Careulebi. es<br />
aris xelisuflebis brZola gavlenebisTvis.<br />
Zalian martivad wydeba<br />
aq raRacebi _ patriarqis avtoriteti<br />
ar asvenebs viRacebs da ra<br />
qnan, ar ician! samwuxarod, eklesiaSi,<br />
SigniT ar aris dalagebuli situacia,<br />
magram es axla ki ar aris,<br />
rac arsebobs eklesia, mis Semdeg<br />
sul aseTi problemaa! sxvaTa Soris,<br />
yvela eklesiaSi, marto qarTul<br />
marTlmadideblurSi ara! Cvens<br />
istoriaSi ukve moxda, Cven patriarqi<br />
ukve gvyavs mokluli, ase rom,<br />
nurafers SevicxadebT, rac eri, is<br />
beri! erTi talaxidan varT mozelilebi,<br />
viRacas SeiZleba ewyinos,<br />
magram bibliurad ufalma talaxisgan<br />
mogvzila. mTavari amocana<br />
iyo, rom unda Seryeuliyo patriarqis<br />
avtoriteti, kidev sxva<br />
ramec aris da dRes am eWvze pirvelad<br />
vityvi, _ es aris patriarqis<br />
sikvdili stresis niadagze. es<br />
Zalian mZime gadasatania, miT<br />
umetes, iseTi adamianisTvis,<br />
rogorc patriarqia da Tu gaviTvaliswinebT<br />
mis asaksa da janmrTelobis<br />
mdgomareobas, amazec<br />
aris gaTvlili, inerviulebs da<br />
mokvdeba, magram erTi ram eSlebaT<br />
_ sikvdil-sicocxlis sakiTxi ar<br />
wydeba dedamiwaze, aramed zecaSi!<br />
zemoT viRacas SeiZleba ceka hgonia<br />
da CemTvis zecaa, RmerTis sasufeveli,<br />
uflis samsjavro.<br />
_ am yvelafrisgan gamosavals<br />
sad xedavT?<br />
_ gamosavali aris sifxizle,<br />
qarTveli kaci unda iyos fxizlad<br />
da informirebulad. vinc fxizelia,<br />
is daculia, vinc informirebulia,<br />
is SeiaraRebulia! naklebi<br />
emociebi da meti azrovneba!<br />
5
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
Si xelfasis saxiT iRebs 25 168<br />
lars; Sps „onkologiis samecniero<br />
kvleviT centrSi” ki aseve<br />
eqim radiologis poziciaze<br />
misi anazRaureba Seadgens 105<br />
822 lars weliwadSi.<br />
axla rac Seexeba bunebriv<br />
kiTxvas, _ ra kavSiri hqonda<br />
valeri kvaracxelias am bizn-<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
jandacvis ministris moadgile<br />
valeri kvaracxeliam Tanamdeboba sami kviris win datova. jan-<br />
dacvis saministrom amasTan dakavSirebiT Semdegi saxis pres-<br />
relizi gaavrcela:<br />
„jandacvis ministris moadgile<br />
valeri kvaracxeliam Ta-<br />
namdeboba sakuTari surviliT<br />
datova. valeri kvaracxelia<br />
kerZo bizness ubrundeba. ga-<br />
dawyvetileba Tanamdebobis<br />
datovebis Sesaxeb man ramden-<br />
ime Tvis winaT miiRo. Sromis,<br />
janmrTelobisa socialuri<br />
dacvis ministrTan da premier-<br />
ministrTan SeTanxmebis Semdeg<br />
man 5 maiss posti datova”, _ na-<br />
Tqvamia saministros informa-<br />
ciaSi.<br />
„qronika+”-ma valeri kvara-<br />
cxelias moqmedi biznesebis<br />
CamonaTvali moipova, romelTanac<br />
kavSiri kvaracxelias sax-<br />
elmwifo postis dakavebis<br />
drosac hqonda. swored am CamonaTvalidan<br />
irkveva, rom kva-<br />
racxelia sadguris moedanze<br />
(e. w. vagzlis) mdebare centraluri<br />
parkingis mflobe-<br />
lia, romelic mis colze _<br />
eTer qardavazea gaformebuli.<br />
1. Sps „qoman jorjia” (coman<br />
georgia), saqarTvelo, Tbilisi, d.<br />
baqraZis #6, partniori 2009;<br />
2. Sps „luna 2010", saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi daba wyneTi, rusTavelis<br />
q. #1;<br />
3. Sps „interoptika”, saqar-<br />
Tvelo, Tbilisi, sanapiros q.<br />
#3;<br />
4. Sps „Tbilisuri”, saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi, SavTelis q. #13;<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
5. Sps „herkulesi”, saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi, gldanis masivi, IV<br />
mkr., korp. 109 a ;<br />
6. Sps samSeneblo kompania<br />
„enguri+”, saqarTvelo, zugdidi,<br />
stalinis q.;<br />
7. Sps „kargi jgufi 2008",<br />
saqarTvelo, Tbilisi, puSkinis<br />
q. #10;<br />
8. Sps „marketi 99";<br />
9. Sps „taiga geo”; saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi, d. baqraZis q. #6;<br />
10. Sps GEOIT, saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi, i. WavWavaZis gamz.<br />
#80, b. 16;<br />
11. Sps „central parkingi”,<br />
saqarTvelo, Tbilisi, vagzlis<br />
moedani #2 (es biznesi gaformebulia<br />
eTer qadavaze, valeri<br />
kvaracxelias colze);<br />
12. „indmewarme”, saqarTvelo,<br />
Tbilisi, wereTlis gamz. #77 v ,<br />
bina 26 (aqac eTer qardava figurirebs<br />
indmewarmed).<br />
valeri kvaracxelias miuRle,<br />
eTer qardava, „kuracioSi”<br />
eqim radiologad muSaobs, sadac<br />
igi erTi wlis ganmavloba-<br />
`aranairi mizezi. SeiZleba, amas bevri ver<br />
gebulobs, magram marTla aranairi mizezi ar<br />
mqonia, arc konfliqti. am sami wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi Zalian bevri ram gakeTda. axla<br />
me patara biWi ar var, momaval wels 60 wlis<br />
vxvdebi da gadawyvetileba miviRe, rom cota<br />
ufro wynar reJimSi vicxovro.<br />
- marTla gaugebaria ase umizezod wasvla...<br />
- daviRale, ai, Zalian. calke `ce~ hepatitis<br />
programa. ar yofila advili saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurSi muSaoba. vrCebi Cemi megobrebis<br />
megobrad, magram ar minda saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurSi~<br />
valeri<br />
kvaracxelia:<br />
`ar minda<br />
saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurSi!~<br />
esebTan maSin, rodesac jandacvis<br />
ministris moadgilis rangSi<br />
muSaobda?<br />
warmogidgenT xelSekrulebis<br />
dadebis TariRs, misi moqmedebis<br />
vadas, organos, romelmac<br />
saxelmwifo xelSekruleba<br />
daaregistrira, an daamowma<br />
28.10.2014-28.10.2017 wlebSi<br />
(TariRs daukvirdiT!):<br />
1. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „luna 2010"-<br />
is (s/k 204888817) wilis marTvis<br />
xelSekruleba;<br />
2. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „herkulesis”<br />
(s/k 400041156) wilis mar-<br />
Tvis xelSekruleba;<br />
3. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps GEOIT-is (s/<br />
k 404953305) wilis marTvis xelSekruleba;<br />
4. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „samSeneblo<br />
kompania enguri+”-is (s/k<br />
242741388), wilis marTvis xelSekruleba;<br />
5. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „marketi 99"-<br />
is (s/k 202062980) wilis marTvis<br />
xelSekruleba;<br />
6. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „qoman jorjias”<br />
(s/k 202456742) wilis mar-<br />
Tvis xelSekruleba;<br />
7. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „interoptikis”<br />
(s/k 204537377) wilis mar-<br />
Tvis xelSekruelba;<br />
8. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „Tbilisuris”<br />
(s/k 204394681) wilis<br />
marTvis xelSekruleba;<br />
9. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „taige geos”<br />
(s/k 202341037) wilis marTvis<br />
xelSekruleba;<br />
10. sawarmoSi wilis mindobis<br />
xelSekruleba, Sps „kargi<br />
jgufi 2008"-is (s/k 204557407)<br />
wilis marTvis xelSekruleba.<br />
ase da amrigad, rodesac<br />
valeri kvaracxelia acxadebs,<br />
rom biznesSi vbrundebio, kiTxvis<br />
niSnebi ar Cndeba im sakiTx-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT, Tu sad da<br />
romel biznesSi brundeba. aq, ra<br />
Tqma unda, ar gamoiricxeba axali<br />
biznesis dawyeba.<br />
maS, ase! ubrundeba Tu ara<br />
valeri kvaracxelia im bizness,<br />
ufro sworad, im biznesebs,<br />
romelic zemoT CamovTvaleT<br />
da romelTanac kavSiri, faqtobrivad,<br />
arc gauwyvetia (wilis<br />
mimndobis xelSekrulebebs Tu<br />
gaviTvaliswinebT)?<br />
„qronika+” esaubreba jandacvis<br />
ministris yofil moa-<br />
dgile valeri kvaracxelias:<br />
_ batono valeri, ra biznesebsac<br />
flobT da romli-<br />
Tac piradad iyaviT dakavebu-<br />
li, sanam jandacvis ministris<br />
moadgile gaxdebodiT, im ko-<br />
mpaniebs ubrundebiT, Tu raime<br />
axlis wamowyebas apirebT?<br />
_ ara, axals ar vgegmav. jerjerobiT,<br />
visveneb, imitom rom<br />
marTla Zalian daviRale. erTi<br />
Tvis mere miviReb gadawyvetilebas.<br />
ra Sps-ebic mqonda,<br />
imazea saubari da arafers<br />
vgegmav.<br />
_ Tanamdebobidan wasvlis<br />
mizezi ra gaxda?<br />
_ aranairi mizezi. SeiZleba,<br />
amas bevri ver gebulobs, magram<br />
marTla aranairi mizezi ar mqonia,<br />
arc konfliqti. am sami<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi Zalian bevri<br />
ram gakeTda. axla me patara<br />
biWi ar var, momaval wels 60<br />
wlis vxdebi da gadawyvetileba<br />
miviRe, rom cota ufro wynar<br />
reJimSi vicxovro.<br />
_ marTla gaugebaria ase<br />
umizezod wasvla...<br />
_ daviRale, ai, Zalian. calke<br />
„ce” hepatitis programa. ar<br />
yofila advili saxelmwifo samsaxurSi<br />
muSaoba. vrCebi Cemi megobrebis<br />
megobrad, magram ar<br />
minda saxelmwifo samsaxurSi.<br />
_ Tqvens adgilze vin dain-<br />
iSneba?<br />
_ momaval kviras jandacvis<br />
ministri miiRebs gadawyvetilebas.<br />
6 N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.
maka mosiaSvili<br />
599 97 25 55<br />
jer kidev ianvarSi Cemma me-<br />
gobarma miTxra, rom soso gogaSvili „qronika+”-is winaaRmdeg<br />
ramdenime mediaportalis Seqmnas gegmavda. redaqciaSi vicodiT,<br />
daaxloebiT, vin dagegmavda am yvelafers, Tumca amas CvenTvis<br />
xeli ar SeuSlia, muSaoba Cveuli ritmiT gagvegrZelebina.<br />
dRes, cxadia, bolo erTi<br />
Tvis manZilze axmaurebuli ramdenime<br />
mediaportalis gulze<br />
mjiRis cema da Cveni misamarTiT<br />
statiebis wera visi davalebac<br />
aris, Tumca Cven verc aman<br />
SegvaSfoTa...<br />
maTi mizani, rom Cveni yuradRebis<br />
koncetracia sruliad<br />
maTze gadasuliyo, ver moxda!<br />
diax, Cven Cveuli reJimiT da<br />
ufro aqtiuradac gavagrZelebT<br />
„gamarjoba, sosos” manamde,<br />
sanamde bolo statiasac aq<br />
ar davwerT: „naxvamdis, soso!”<br />
mizani yovelTvis amarTlebs<br />
saSualebas, arasdros dagvixevia<br />
ukan da verc axla davixevT.<br />
gansxvaveba erTia, _ sul ramdenime<br />
adamiani, romelic „qronika+”-s<br />
vqmniT, sami ideiT ver-<br />
TiandebiT: ar viyidebiT, ar viciT<br />
Ralati da qveyana gviyvars.<br />
amitom cota uxerxuli iqneba<br />
Cemgan, an Cveni gazeTis romelime<br />
Jurnalistisgan, rom<br />
maT vupasuxoT, vinc iyideba,<br />
visTvisac Ralati Cveulia da<br />
bolos, visac es qveyana Calis<br />
fasad ar uRirs maTTan polemikaSi<br />
Sesvla miuRebelia! ubralod,<br />
ver gaRiarebT da mor-<br />
Ca. Tumca madlierebas gamovxatav<br />
piradad me, rom sosomac<br />
da misma mimdevarma kalmis mqnevelebmac<br />
aseTi didi yuradReba<br />
gamoiCineT Cven mimarT. gvikiTxeT,<br />
batonebo, waikiTxeT<br />
yvelaferi, mogvismineT, Segi-<br />
ZliaT, lafic isroloT, magram<br />
mTavari mizani rac iyo,<br />
miRweulia, _ diax, Cven Segvi-<br />
Zlia Tqveni moTminebis fialis<br />
avsebac, isic SegviZlia, soso<br />
vaiZuloT, samSabaTs sakuTar<br />
xoSebs da „grexebs” gadaxedos.<br />
dabolos, ase mSvidad gavagr-<br />
ZeloT gza.<br />
Cven pirovnebebze ar vmu-<br />
SaobT, Cven qveyana gvainteresebs<br />
da ase iqneba xvalac. Cven-<br />
Tan redaqciaSi mxolod erTi<br />
patimris deda ar aris, _ ara!<br />
Cven yvela im biWis deda varT,<br />
romelic ase gawireT, magram<br />
ver gatexeT.<br />
aseve ver gatexeT is gundi,<br />
romelic „qronika+”-s qmnis. da<br />
radgan Tqven bevri ecadeT,<br />
rom es yvelaferi dagengriaT<br />
da mainc ver miaRwieT, migvaCnia,<br />
rom sworad vSromobT,<br />
Cvens Sromas Tqveni xmauris Sedegad<br />
rezonansi aqvs. amdenad,<br />
gmadlobT, rom Cveni mkiTxveli<br />
brZandebiT.<br />
dabolos, dasawyisisTvis miyvars<br />
Segonebebi da ase, Cemo<br />
soso, SegonebiT daviwyeb Sen-<br />
Tan ustars:<br />
„ecadnen da ver gamxades<br />
boroti, ecadnen da ver gamxades<br />
flidi.<br />
wuTisofels kacad SerCe<br />
bolomde, Turme esec kacobaa<br />
didi”.<br />
ioseb noneSvilis Tqmisa ar<br />
iyos, „aris aseTi qveyana _ mas<br />
saqarTvelo hqvia”... da swored<br />
aseT qveyanaSi daibade. gisurvebT<br />
warmatebul samSabaTs!<br />
sosos axali idea...<br />
_ aRmoCnda, rom beWdurma<br />
internetportalma, mediam ver<br />
gaamarTla, anu ver SeZlo<br />
„qronika+”-is diskreditacia,<br />
ver miiRo sasurveli Sedegi,<br />
verc im e. w. trolebis aqtivobam<br />
socialur mediaSi, romelic<br />
adre ufro Wrida. axla<br />
frontis xazs gogaSvili Zalian<br />
male or mxares gaSlis _<br />
„qronika+”-isa da elisos winaaRmdeg.<br />
_ kerZod?<br />
_ pirveli: ai, naxav, sadRac,<br />
erT TveSi asparezze gamoCndebian<br />
garkveuli jgufebi, romelTac<br />
arasamTavrobo seqtoris<br />
saxeli eqnebaT, jer Cveul<br />
xmaurs daiwyeben, yuradRebas<br />
miiqceven, moxvdebian masobriv<br />
satelevizio arxebze, CaerTvebian<br />
garkveul toqSouebSi, dabolos,<br />
finalSi sami, an oTxi<br />
erTad gamova asparezze da ukve<br />
„qronika+”-s dauwyebs oms.<br />
_ ratom unda iomos?<br />
_ imitom, rom es yvelaferi<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
ideebs<br />
ra<br />
vuyoT,<br />
soso?!<br />
xelovnuradaa Seqmnilia, ai,<br />
Zalian, Zalian xelovnurad. ma-<br />
Ti yvela mesiji iqneba sosos-<br />
Tan gavlili, yvela saeTero<br />
dro SeTanxmdeba sus-Tan. maTi<br />
xmauris fonze gamoCndeba ramdenime<br />
televizia, savaraudod,<br />
ori an sami, romelTac uSualo<br />
davaleba eqnebaT, maTi<br />
daanonsebuli aqciebi da a. S.<br />
gaaSuqon, sazogadoebas sxva<br />
TvaliT daanaxvon movlenebi...<br />
_ Sedegi xom unda hqon-<br />
des?! gasagebia, raRac undaT<br />
_ xmauri, kiTxvebi, yuradReb-<br />
is sxva mxares koncentracia.<br />
faqtia, maTi survili, rom redaqcia<br />
formidan amovardniliyo,<br />
ver axda, piriqiT, amind-<br />
ebma ver Segviwyo xeli, Torem<br />
wavidodiT da redaqcias pir-<br />
dapir sus-Tan gadavitandiT,<br />
rac isedac dagegmilia. axla<br />
Tu isini gamoCndebian, amiT<br />
ra?<br />
_ magaliTad, rogorc gogaSvili<br />
fiqrobs, axla Tqven<br />
winaaRmdeg saWiroa yvirili,<br />
xmauri, amis televiziebSi afi-<br />
Sireba, mere ki mTavari, _ man<br />
am sakiTxze erTxel ukve dauSva<br />
Secdoma da ar vici, kerZod<br />
visTan, gomelaurTan, premier<br />
kalaZesTan Tu visTan, magram<br />
konsultacia gaiara, kerZod:<br />
undoda, qalaqi aeWrelebina<br />
stikerebiT, flaerebiT da<br />
plakatebiT, sadac elisos da<br />
Seni fotoebi iqneboda, aseve<br />
redaqciis sxva TanamSromlebis,<br />
Tumca pasuxad sastiki uari<br />
miiRo. maSin gaafrTxiles, rom<br />
SeuZlebelia, amas ver dauSvebdnen,<br />
radagn yvela saelCo am<br />
sakiTxze isaubrebda. vici, rom<br />
ar iyo kmayofili uaris gamo,<br />
piriqiT, nanobda, _ ar unda mekiTxa,<br />
ise unda gamomekra eseni<br />
quCaSio. SesaZloa, am me-<br />
Todsac mimarTos.<br />
_ bolos da bolos, midis<br />
TavdacvaSi?<br />
_ yovel SemTxvevaSi, sus-idan<br />
wava, Tumca is yvelaze arakontrolirebadi<br />
mainc sxva<br />
uwyebaSi iqneba, radgan gabrazebuli<br />
wava da axlac gabrazebulia<br />
Tavdacvis Temaze.<br />
_ anu ra gvelodeba, enjeoebis<br />
Semoteva da plakate-<br />
bis risxva?<br />
_ erT TveSi ori an sami axali<br />
enjeo Seiqmneba, gamovlen<br />
xmauriT da sazogadoebis yuradRebas<br />
miiqceven, mere televiziebSi<br />
vixilavT, mere, albaT,<br />
Tqvens ofisTan da mere<br />
qalaqSi, kidev, plakatebs. es<br />
aris sosos gegma.<br />
_ mediam da statiebma ver<br />
gaumarTla?<br />
_ vera. Zalian ukmayofiloa.<br />
P. S. soso, Tu ginda, ager<br />
damadges Tavze specrazmi,<br />
damadon Sublze tyvia, mainc<br />
mSvidad gavagrZeleb Seni saxlSi<br />
wasvlis „puwiovkis” gam-<br />
oweras.<br />
momikiTxe uniWo vaxtang<br />
xarSilava, ra tyuilad gego-<br />
na, rom SemeSindeboda.<br />
me erTi kacis meSinoda,<br />
soso, amirani hqvia mas da isic<br />
RmerTma kavkasionze miajaWva.<br />
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daviT xarSilaZis gverdi<br />
#araCadebas!<br />
_ de, ras Svebi? _ ase iwyeboda Cve-<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
ni dila 27 wlis ganmavlobaSi da ase<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
iwyeba axla Cveni satelefono saubari<br />
TveSi samjer.<br />
dee, axla minda, sajarod mogwero is, razec bevri gvilapar-<br />
akia me da Sen da is, razec momavalSic aucileblad vilaparakebT.<br />
arc Sen xar patara biWi da arc me _ patara gogo, erTmaneT-<br />
isTvis axsna dagvWirdes, ratom zixar Sen dRes gldanis cixeSi<br />
da ratom var me dRes patimris deda.<br />
cixe ucnauri adgilia. pirveli<br />
informacia axal miyvanil patimarze<br />
vrceldeba cixis SigniT da cixis<br />
gareT. ukve momivida ambavi, rogor<br />
patronob da uyof lukmas upatrono<br />
patimars, sportulic giCuqnia.<br />
aseTi marTali da alali biWi<br />
am cixes ar axsovso, _ amboben patimrebi<br />
da cixis TanamSromlebi.<br />
me jer gldanis cixeSi ar vyofilvar,<br />
arc is vici, romel mxaresaa<br />
A kopusi da 78-e sakani. patimrebis<br />
dedebi da ojaxis wevrebi mokiTxvas<br />
miTvlian, "daCkis misatanad<br />
misul biWebs abareben, _ eliso rom<br />
ara, am qveyanaSi ra xdeba, simarTles<br />
ver gavigebdiT, magas rom vuyurebT<br />
mxned da mebrZols, Cvenc imedianad<br />
varTo.<br />
ar devs, ara imitom, rom vinmem me an<br />
Sen dagvindo da xeli dagafara, aramed<br />
imitom, rom narkotikebi jibeSi<br />
Cagitenes da dakavebis kadrebic ki<br />
ver gadaiRes. arada, is cilismwameblebi<br />
xom warmogidgenia, ra siamovnebiT<br />
aafrialebdnen am kadrebs...<br />
Seni saqme aucileblad iqneba am<br />
xelisuflebis mesaflave. am qveyanaSi<br />
Sen ukve gaxdi usamarTlobas-<br />
Tan brZolis simbolo. Sen Seni patimrobiT<br />
ukve ajobe biZina ivaniSvils<br />
da mis garemocvas. ras vizamT,<br />
Seni "zemliaki" saCxereli patara<br />
kaci aRmoCnda. dro da istoria dagvanaxebs,<br />
vin dadgeba mis gverdiT,<br />
roca am qveyanaSi miusafari da devnili<br />
iqneba, _ iqneb, maSin mainc<br />
dafiqrdes, rom adamiani sikeTiT<br />
fasdeba da ara SurisZiebis dauokebeli<br />
survilebiT.<br />
patimrobis pirvel dReebSi mxolod<br />
erTi kiTxva gqonda advokatebTan:<br />
xalxi ras ambobs?.. xalxma<br />
icis, dee, rom Sen sruliad udana-<br />
Saulo xar, Sen daisaje imitom, rom<br />
Senma dedam gadawyvita, simarTlis-<br />
Tvis ebrZola, daisaje imitom, rom<br />
Seni gazeTi aTasobiT adamianis imedi<br />
iyo, daisaje imitom, rom ukadrebeli<br />
ar vikadreT da megobrebi<br />
ar gavyideT... mokiTxva Cveni saer-<br />
To megobrebisgan... gvaxsovs, dakavebamde<br />
ramdenime dRiT adre rom<br />
gviTxari, _ rac ar unda moxdes,<br />
ukan ar daixioT da brZolaze uari<br />
ar TqvaTo. principSi, icodi, rom<br />
dagiWerdnen, xSirad da bevrs vlaparakobdiT<br />
amaze, wasvlaze arasodes<br />
gifiqria, aq da am qveyanaSi<br />
gindoda Tavisuflad cxovreba.<br />
Sorenam Seni dakavebis adgilze gadaRebuli<br />
firi moitana da sasamarTlo<br />
proceszec gamova mowmed.<br />
mixaria, rom Rirseuli da uSiSari<br />
adamianebi am qveyanaSi isev arseboben.<br />
_ Cadebulia "naglad", _ movismine<br />
Seni sityvebi da pirobas ga-<br />
Zlev, Camdebic da brZanebis gamcemic,<br />
dawyebuli "biZiniCiT", damTavrebuli<br />
"StangaTi", aucileblad<br />
"matrosovze" daasruleben. Sen<br />
mainc xom ici, rom dedaSenma sityvis<br />
ukan waReba ar icis!<br />
me da Sen udavod gagvimarTla,<br />
dee... es rTuli periodi udanakargod<br />
gaviareT, arc me da arc Sen<br />
megobrebi ar dagvikargavs arc erT<br />
adamians, romlis imedic gvqonda,<br />
Cvens mxardaWeraze uari ar uTqvams,<br />
metsac getyvi, Sen SeiZine gulSematkivarTa<br />
didi armia, _ sruliad<br />
ucnobi adamianebi yoveldRe mweren<br />
Senze da kiTxuloben Sens ambavs,<br />
ggulSematkivroben da SenTvis finansur<br />
daxmarebas mTavazoben. gaxsovs,<br />
Cemze wera rom daiwyes gazeTeb-<br />
Si, maSin miTxari (dawere kidec) simarTlesa<br />
da sikeTes mivxedoT, magaT<br />
calke sindisi da calke ufali<br />
madloba, deda,<br />
rom gadamarCine!<br />
simarTle Cemi da Seni iaraRia!<br />
Cven ar vreagirebdiT im Worebze,<br />
romelic Seni misamarTiT periodulad<br />
vrceldeboda. es guSin da dRes<br />
ar dawyebula, daiwyo bevrad ufro<br />
adre, roca gancxadeba davwere da<br />
samsaxuridan wamovedi. gagrZelda<br />
mere, roca opoziciaSi wavedi da dasrulda<br />
maSin, roca xelisufleba-<br />
Si Cveni mxardaWeriTac mosulma Zalam<br />
uari Tqva saarCevno idealebze<br />
da qveynis gayidvis gzas daadga. me<br />
xSirad vaxsenebdi maT saarCevno dapirebebs,<br />
vamxeldi korumpirebul<br />
ministrebs da maT naTesavebs, ar vepuebodi<br />
biujetis qurdebs. es ver<br />
aitanes da martivi SurisZiebis gzas<br />
daadgnen.<br />
me ver davikvexni _ SensaviT kargad<br />
ar vici saqarTvelos istoria.<br />
Sen Cemze ukeT mogexseneba gaugonari<br />
Ralatisa da erTgulebis istoriebi,<br />
araferi gansakuTrebuli<br />
axla ar xdeba, sadRac aqve zis mematiane<br />
da Cveni samSoblosTvis am<br />
urTulesi istoriis qronikebs wers.<br />
de, Sen am istoriis erTi didi<br />
nawili xar. pirvelsave dRes vicodi,<br />
rom udanaSaulo iyavi, amitomac<br />
vigeriebdi im araadamianebis ciliswamebas,<br />
romlebic Seni saxelis<br />
diskreditacias cdilobdnen. araferi<br />
gamouvidaT. me es omi SenTan<br />
erTad movige. dRes ukve yvelam icis,<br />
rom Seni sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmeSi ori policielis Cvenebis<br />
garda arc erTi sxva mtkicebuleba<br />
mohkiTxavT, dros nu davkargavT<br />
guSindel dRezeo. ar vici, rogor<br />
axerxebdi, magram Senze gavrcelebul<br />
Worebsac gasaocari simSvidiT<br />
xvdebodi, _ Cven xom viciT simar-<br />
Tle, magaT rac undaT, is ilaparakono.<br />
xandaxan dascinodi, _ fantaziebSi<br />
magrad uWirTo...<br />
guSindel dReze dros namdvilad<br />
ar davkargav, erTs getyvi<br />
mxolod: adre vinc kulisebSi iyo,<br />
erTi boroti moxucis CaTvliT,<br />
rogorc bebiaCemi ityoda, yvelam<br />
aRviri aixsna da Seni patimrobis<br />
dros gadawyvita angariSsworeba.<br />
magram Sen xom ici, dee, ra kerketi<br />
kakali gyavs deda. ase ioli araa<br />
Cemi gatexa, miT ufro maSin, roca<br />
zustad vici, rom Sen xelisuflebis<br />
mZevali xar da Seni Tavisufleba<br />
vefxia lomiZe<br />
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gldanis sapyrobile. sakani N 78.<br />
werili Svils<br />
swored qveynisTvis Cems brZolaze<br />
gadis. guSindel dReebs swored am<br />
werilSi minda vuTxra, _ me Cemi Svili<br />
RirsebiT da sikeTiT, adamianebis<br />
siyvaruliT gavzarde, icis ra pasuxismgebloba<br />
aqvs sakuTari ojaxis,<br />
misi babuebis winaSe, TqvensaviT<br />
uTvistomo da gadagvarebuli araa,<br />
boRmasa da borotebaSi ar ucxovria,<br />
arc sakuTari warmomavlobis<br />
kompleqsebi stanjavs. qveynis damqcevic<br />
rom viyo, roca patimris<br />
dedaze iwyebT weras, moralurad<br />
ukve fskerze xarT. Tumca erTi magram<br />
mainc aqvs am istorias... giorgi<br />
mamacaSvilma Cemze es sibinZureebi<br />
rom ar weros, misi saxlidan da<br />
ofisidan Cxrekisas amoRebuli piradi<br />
firebis gamo cixeSi ukraven Tavs<br />
da misnairebis adgili saqaTmeSi iqneba,<br />
amitomac misi gadarCena Cemze<br />
weraSia. weros da ikiTxos, sindisisa<br />
ra moagxseno, magram ufali rom<br />
yvelas mohkiTxavs, es namdvilad<br />
viciT Senc da mec.<br />
ise, dee, krizisuli situaciebis<br />
gamocdac yvelam Rirseulad CavabareT,<br />
giyurebdi policiis ezoSi<br />
xelborkiliT da zustad vicodi,<br />
rom arc erTi nabijiT ukan ar unda<br />
damexia, "qronika+"-is ofisic uceb<br />
gadaewyo Sens patimrobaze, yvelam<br />
Tavisi saqme icis, Seni mariami bank-<br />
Si dadis kviraSi orjer da Tan werilebs<br />
gwers, Tan sul Senze laparakobs;<br />
Tornikem Seni funqciebic<br />
SeiTavsa, xan cixeSia, xan sasamarTloze,<br />
xan qumelaSvils "ekaCaveba"<br />
da xanac "antrikotas" dascinis; iliam<br />
gldanis cixis gza iswavla; Cemi<br />
mariami, romelic weliwadSi mxolod<br />
or statuss werda feisbuqSi<br />
(dedisa da Cems dabadebis dRes), lamis,<br />
blogerad gadaiqca. ukve dacinviT<br />
xvdeba warsulis aCrdilebis<br />
bodvebs. sxva gogo aRmovaCine _ samarTliani<br />
da mebrZoli. nana sul<br />
imaze wuwunebs, gldanis cixeSi saWmlis<br />
Setana ratom ar SeiZleba, gemrielobebs<br />
gavukeTebdi Cems biWso...<br />
saaRdgomo nobaTic yvelaferi misi<br />
naxelavi iyo. damfuZnebeli rom gamova,<br />
im dros elodeba.<br />
vici, gamorCeulad mamaSenis pozicia<br />
gainteresebs da javrob kidec...<br />
gias uCvenodac yvelaferi garkveuli<br />
aqvs, zustad icis, rom damnaSave<br />
ar xar, swored amitom miiRo<br />
gadawyvetileba da policiidan mi-<br />
Rebuli erTaderTi jildo mxedruli<br />
mamacobisTvis Ss saministros<br />
daubruna, narkotikebis Camdeb milicielebs<br />
CamokideTo, ministrs Seu-<br />
Tvala. giorgi mRebriSvils me balastis<br />
direqtori davarqvi, moZraoba<br />
"ara Cadebas" pirveli aqciis mere<br />
kamerebTan aRar gamoCenila, verc<br />
gamoCndeba imitom, rom swored misi<br />
mmarTvelobis dros gaxda policia<br />
yvelaze uunaro da uavtoriteto.<br />
rac Seexeba aRzevebul mdabios, soso<br />
gogaSvils, is ara guSindeli, aramed<br />
guSinwindeli dRea. es aris bolo...<br />
msgavsi araprofesionalebisa<br />
da uvicebis xelSi Cveni qveynis<br />
specsamsaxuri aRarasodes aRmoCndeba,<br />
me gaZlev amis pirobas. Tavi<br />
"veliki" kombinatori egona da axla<br />
dadis gakvirvebuli, _ es qalia Tu<br />
qaji, Svilis patimrobamac ver gaaCerao.<br />
verc gamaCerebs, imitom rom<br />
korumpirebuli aRzevebuli mdabioebis<br />
adgili xelisuflebaSi ar<br />
aris. es brZola Cemia!<br />
maka mosiaSvils gadaveci Seni<br />
gansakuTrebuli mokiTxvebi. gadaiqca<br />
"antrikotas" biografad. weliwadnaxevris<br />
win dawera pirvelad,<br />
gamarjoba, sosoo da zustad vici,<br />
Zalian male gamosaTxovar werilsac<br />
dawers, _ mSvidobiT, soso. "qronika+"-is<br />
yvela TanamSromeli Sen<br />
gverdiTaa, procesebzec xedav amas<br />
da gazeTSic. rac Seexeba advokatebs,<br />
varskvlavuri sameuli gicavs.<br />
minda icode, rom usasyidlod. na-<br />
Tia korkotaZis arnaxuli energia,<br />
arCil CubiniZis sidinje da valeri<br />
gelbaxianis gamocdileba erTmaneTs<br />
avsebs. Tavadac xedav procesebze ra<br />
dReSi agdeben prokurorebs da mosamarTleebs.<br />
sxva mocemulobaa,<br />
Sens saqmes samarTalTan aranairi<br />
kavSiri ar aqvs. aq Temida brma da<br />
yrua. verdiqti biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
unda gamogitanos.<br />
gemrieli lukma bolosTvis movitove...<br />
Seni patimrobis mesame dRes<br />
lizas sanaxavad movicale. mindoda,<br />
me amexsna, ra moxda da mxolod<br />
televiziiT ar esmina versiebisTvis.<br />
yvelaze naklebi garja lizasTvis<br />
damWirda, _ bee, vici, Sen rom<br />
ivaniSvils eCxubebi, mamaCemi magitom<br />
zis cixeSi. momeci, erTi, biZinas<br />
telefonis nomeri, unda mivwero,<br />
daTo gamouSvaso. mokled, Seni Svilia,<br />
raa... didi daibada da bevr<br />
zrdasrul adamianze ukeT erkveva,<br />
sad ra xdeba.<br />
sagareo frontze rac xdeba, ici,<br />
albaT. televizori gaqvs da igeb<br />
ambebs. namdvilad momaklda Seni analizi<br />
da rCevebic. ise midis saqme,<br />
rusebs ar dauTmoben am Cvens qveyanas<br />
da saqarTvelo male gaxdeba<br />
Tavisufali samyaros wevri. Sen giyvars<br />
Tavisufleba, ver itan akrZalvebsa<br />
da xelovnurad Seqmnil tabus.<br />
amas winaT raRac statusi davwere<br />
Sensa da Cemze. erTma patriotma<br />
kacma damiwera, _ giJi deda-Svili<br />
xarT orive, faqtobrivad, SiSveli<br />
xelebiT ebrZviT saxelmwifo xelisuflebas<br />
da rac mTavaria, yvela<br />
brZolas pirwmindad igebTo.<br />
ici, ratom vigeb?<br />
imitom, rom Sen Seni gautexlobiT<br />
momeci amis magaliTi.<br />
me vici, de, ra rTuli iyo SenTvis<br />
imis moTmena, roca dedas gaginebdnen<br />
da "qronika+"-s axsenebdnen,<br />
roca gTavazobdnen, rom geRiarebina<br />
arCadenili danaSauli da geubnebodnen,<br />
rom dedaSenma milionebi<br />
iSova da saprocesoTi gagiyvanso.<br />
Sen gauZeli da ar gatydi.<br />
Sen es gamocda warmatebiT Caabare<br />
da Senma gautexlobam momca<br />
saSualeba, SemenarCunebina Rirseba,<br />
uari ar meTqva sakuTar warsulze,<br />
Sen gadamarCine me, rogorc Jurnalisti<br />
da Sen gadaarCine Tavisufali<br />
mediis flagmani "qronika+", ar mai-<br />
Zule, is adamianebi, romlebic Cven<br />
gverdiT da CvenTan erTad arian samarTlianobisTvis<br />
brZolaSi, mZevlebad<br />
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or tenderSi miiRo monawileoba<br />
(SPA 150019802; SPA<br />
150019785). aRniSnul or tenderSi<br />
man maRali fasi daafiqsira, Sesabamisad,<br />
gamarjvebulad ar gamovlenila<br />
da masTan xelSekruleba<br />
ar gaformebula“, _ aseTi pasuxi<br />
mogvivida meriidan.<br />
„qronika+“ma, aseve, kiTxvebi<br />
gadaugzavna soflis meurneobis<br />
saministros sursaTis uvneblo-<br />
bis pressamsaxuris ufros Tea<br />
SveliZes. saqme is aris, rom Sps<br />
„miteraze“ sasaklao fiqsirdeba<br />
kaxeTis gzatkecilze.<br />
ai, pasuxic: „Sps „miteras“ (saidentifikacio<br />
kodi: 4206187847)<br />
sasaklao funqcionirebs sagarejoSi.<br />
aqvs mudmivi aRiareba. sursaTis<br />
erovnuli saagento sasaklaoSi<br />
axorcielebs kanonmdeblobiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebul saxelmwifo<br />
kontrols. Semowmebis Sedegad<br />
kritikuli Seusabamobebi ar dafiqsirebula.<br />
sasaklao dRemde funqcionirebs“.<br />
am or „miteras“ ori<br />
gansxvavebuli saidentifikacio<br />
kodi aqvs _ orive erTsa da imave<br />
iuridiul misamarTzea dafiqsirebuli,<br />
kerZod: „vazisubani, I mkr,<br />
korp. 1-li, bina #5“, sasaklaoc da<br />
tenderebSi monawile kompaniac.<br />
Tumca es, albaT, ukve calke<br />
kvlevis sagania.<br />
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miwa saxelmwifos ki ar gadaecema da<br />
SemdgomSi saxelmwifo ki ar gadascems<br />
farcxalaZis kompanias, aramed<br />
pirdapir Tbilisis meri daviT narmania<br />
ise, rom saelmwifo araferSi<br />
sWirdeba, gacvlas ukeTebs farcxalaZis<br />
kompanias. daviT narmania,<br />
iseve rogorc yovelTvis, am Savbneli<br />
davalebebis morCili Semsrulebeli<br />
aRmoCnda, rogorc es iyo mosamarTle<br />
nazRaiZis SemTxvevaSi, rodesac<br />
milioniani qoneba gadaacemines.<br />
am ukanono garigebaSi daviT narmaniam<br />
TvalebdaxuWulma moawera xeli<br />
da swored amitomacaa, rom biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis erT-erTi favoritia.<br />
swored amitom aZlevs teritorias<br />
„panorama Tbilisze”, botanikur<br />
baRze, aris araerTi ukanono mSeneblobis<br />
avtori, iWreba mTebi, aswlovani<br />
xeebi. Tu ivaniSvils sWirdeba da<br />
mis ezoSia gadasargavi, mas uyvars<br />
xeebi da Tu mis bizness ewireba, ar<br />
ainteresebs Tbiliselebis sufTa<br />
haeri, ar ainteresebs gamwvaneba, ar<br />
ainteresebs rekreaciuli zonebi da<br />
Tavis neba-surviliT atrialebs yvelasa<br />
da yvelafers. narmaniam am SemTxvevaSi<br />
gacvlas moawera xeli ise,<br />
rom amiT Tbilisma da Tbiliselebma<br />
mniSvnelovnad izarales, gamomdinare<br />
iqidan, rom 2300 kv.m. miwa,<br />
romelsac farcxalaZis kompania<br />
flobda, bevrad naklebi iyo, vidre<br />
is teritoria (6700 kv.m.) nucubiZis<br />
ferdobze, romelic sacxovrebeli<br />
zona 6-ia da mSeneblebma Zalian kargad<br />
ician, rom Teoriulad iq mravalsarTuliani<br />
korpusis mSenebloba<br />
SeiZleba. am martivi garigebiT<br />
Tbilisis meriam aseve dakarga, daaxloebiT,<br />
2 milioni lari. amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
damatebiTi faqtebi aucileblad<br />
gaCndeba, romelsac batoni<br />
laSa Tordia da aseve ganaxlebuli<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba” uaxloes<br />
momavalSi warmoadgens. rac Seexeba<br />
im miwas, romelic Tbilisis meriam<br />
farcxalaZis kompanias gaucvala, es<br />
iyo sadavo miwa, romelic mdebareobs<br />
nucubiZis 77-is mimdebared. farcxalaZem,<br />
gacvlis wesiT, garda imisa,<br />
rom 6700 kv.m. miiRo, miwa pirdapiri<br />
miyidvis wesiT, pirobiani auqcioniT,<br />
am miwis momijnaved, faqtobrivad,<br />
konkurenciis gareSe, kidev,<br />
damatebiT, 3700 kv.m. miwa iyida. rodesac<br />
auqcioni gamocxadda, erTerT<br />
pirobad ewera, rom am miwis yidva<br />
mxolod im adamians SeeZleboda,<br />
romelsac miwis momijnaved eqnebo-<br />
bolo periodSi gansakuTrebulad aqtualur Temas warmoad-<br />
gens oTar farcxalaZis moulodneli gamdidrebis faqti.<br />
aRniSnul TemasTan dakavSirebiT „qronika+”-s esaubreba „er-<br />
Tiani nacionaluri moZraobis” wevri _ irakli nadiraZe.<br />
cnobisTvis: nadiraZem skandaluri<br />
dokumentebi gaasajarova, romlis<br />
mixedviTac varkvevT, rom saqarTvelos<br />
yofilma mTavarma prokurorma<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobasa da<br />
Tbilisis meriasTan garigebiT milionebi<br />
iSova.<br />
irakli nadiraZe:<br />
_ farcxalaZis moulodneli gamdidreba,<br />
TavisTavad, bevr kiTxvis<br />
niSans badebs. es kiTxvac, Sesabamisad,<br />
legitimuria. „nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam” am faqtze araerTi mtkicebulebis<br />
mopoveba SeZlo. daviwyoT<br />
pirveli dokumentiT, romlis<br />
mixedviTac 2015 wlis 25 agvistos,<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis gankargulebiT<br />
da premierad datovebuli<br />
irakli RaribaSvilis xelmoweriT,<br />
Sps „roial developments”, romlis<br />
Semdgomi direqtoric da 100%-iani<br />
wilis mflobelic batoni farcxalaZe<br />
gaxda, TbilisSi, samgoris raionSi,<br />
pirdapiri miyidvis wesiT<br />
62887 kv.m. miwa 200 000 larad gadaeca<br />
_ 1 kv.m. miwa, daaxloebiT, 3 larad<br />
da 80 TeTrad, rac namdvilad ararealuria.<br />
es miwa gadaeca garkveuli<br />
sainvesticio pirobebiT, rac gulisxmobda<br />
Semdegs:<br />
mas es 20000 lari unda gadaexada<br />
gaformebidan 1 Tvis vadaSi; araumetes<br />
2 weliwadSi unda Seesrulebina<br />
yvela valdebuleba, maT Soris,<br />
teritoriaze unda aeSenebina aranakleb<br />
3000 kv.m. Senobebi, sadac qarxana<br />
gaixsneboda da xalxi dasaqmdeboda.<br />
savaraudod, es aris im 120 ybada-<br />
Rebuli qarxnidan erT-erTi, romelsac<br />
ase aqtiurad gvipiarebda „qar-<br />
Tuli ocneba” da romelic TvaliT<br />
veravin naxa; kompanias am<br />
teritoriamde misasvleli<br />
aranakleb 1 km asfaltirebuli<br />
gza unda daego da ganexorcielebina<br />
10-milioniani<br />
laris investicia.<br />
am pirobebis Sesrulebis<br />
nacvlad, vidre gankargulebis<br />
safuZvelze<br />
oficialurad<br />
gadaformdeboda<br />
miwa Sps „roial<br />
developmentze”,<br />
kompaniis<br />
wilSi oTar<br />
farcxala-<br />
Ze Cndeba. aRniSnuli<br />
pirobebis<br />
Sesrulebis<br />
nacvlad<br />
ise, rom<br />
farcxalaZes ar uwevs<br />
erTi TeTris daxarjvac<br />
ki, weliwadsa da 3<br />
TveSi teritorias ukan<br />
yidis. ori martivi operaciiT,<br />
faqtobrivad,<br />
araferSi, farcxalaZes<br />
milion larze meti darCa.<br />
ufro saintereso ki is aris, Tu vin<br />
iyida aRniSnuli teritoria?! iseve,<br />
rogorc am miwis gamyidveli aris<br />
saxelmwifo, aseve am miwis ukan myidvelic<br />
farcxalaZisgan aris saxelmwifo.<br />
anu sapartnioro fondi,<br />
romelic saxelmwifos mier dafuZnebulia<br />
da am sapartnioro fondis<br />
dafuZnebulma saaqcio sazogadoebam<br />
iyida aRniSnuli miwa. martivad rom<br />
vTqvaT, saxelmwifom es miwa farcxalaZes<br />
200 000 larad mihyida da Semdeg,<br />
aseve, saxelmwifom farcxalaZisgan<br />
1 200 000 larad iyida. es<br />
yvelaferi ki calsaxad miuTiTebs,<br />
rom farcxalaZis gamilionerebaSi<br />
saxelmwifos pirdapir miuZRvis wvlili.<br />
metic: arsebobs safuZvliani<br />
eWvi, rom farcxalaZes is 200 000<br />
laric ki ar aqvs gadaxdili saxelmwifosTvis,<br />
romelic oficialurad<br />
hqonda gadasaxdeli miwaSi. amas vambobT<br />
iqidan gamomdinare, rom rodesac<br />
es miwa ukve saaqcio sazogadoebaze<br />
gaiyida, mas farcxalaZis kompaniam<br />
pirobaSi Cauwera, rom yvela<br />
valdebulebasTan erTad, romelic<br />
iyo 10 milionis investicia, qarxnis<br />
aSeneba, gzis miyvana da a. S., mas aseve<br />
unda gadaexada saprivatizacio Tanxa<br />
200 000 lari, romelic TavisTavad<br />
danaSaulia. calsaxad ikveTeba,<br />
rom am danaSaulebriv sqemaSi CarTuli<br />
iyo saxelmwifos sxvadasxva uwyeba.<br />
e. i. nacvlad imisa, rom ivaniSvilsa<br />
da „qarTul ocnebas” Tavis unikaluri<br />
Sansi gamoeyenebina, mas Semdeg,<br />
rac arCevnebiT demokratiuli<br />
gziT xelisufleba gadaibares, aesrulebinaT<br />
dapirebebi, gamoesworebinaT<br />
xalxis mdgomareoba, gaezardaT<br />
xalxis Semosavlebi, am yvelafris<br />
sapirispirod isini<br />
sakuTar Semosavlebs izrdian.<br />
biZina ivaniSvili sakuTar<br />
milions milionebs hmatebs,<br />
masTan daaxloebul yvela<br />
adamians, ivaniSvilis ojaxis<br />
klanis wevrebs amdidrebs<br />
da xalxis gaRaribebis<br />
xarjze maT milionerebad<br />
xdis.<br />
gvaqvs meore danaSaulebrivi<br />
sqema,<br />
romelic exeba<br />
Tbilisis meriasa<br />
da farcxalaZes<br />
Soris<br />
irakli nadiraZe<br />
Tbilisis meriasa da<br />
farcxalaZes Soris gaformebuli<br />
TaRliTuri garigeba<br />
gaformebul TaRliTur garigebas:<br />
farcxalaZis kompanias „mziuris”<br />
mimdebare teritoriaze, daaxloebiT,<br />
2300 kv.m. hqonda, romlis gacvlasac<br />
kompania 2010 wlidan iTxovda.<br />
iqidan gamomdinare, rom es kompania<br />
arawonad RirebulebiT miwebs<br />
iTxovda, Sesabamisad, molaparakeba<br />
midioda, rom gacvliliyo, Tumca<br />
ara ise, rom am kompanias xalxisa da<br />
Tbiliselebis sazianod 2300 kv.m.-Si,<br />
romelic garkveuli Tanxa Rirda, mis<br />
nacvlad mieRo 3-4-jer meti qoneba,<br />
aramed 10-jer meti. mas Semdeg, rac<br />
farcxalaZe prokurorobidan wamovida<br />
da „biznesSi” gadainacvla, Seecada,<br />
miwis sanacvlod sxva miwa mie-<br />
Ro. pirvel etapze is cdilobda, es<br />
2300 kv.m. miwa saxelmwifosTvis gadaeca<br />
da saxelmwifos Semdgom pirdapiri<br />
miyidvis wesiT gadaeca ukve<br />
farcxalaZis kompaniisTvis. gankarguleba<br />
2015 wlis 18 aprils gamoica,<br />
romlis mixedviTac 2300 kv.m. miwas<br />
8800 kv.m. miwaSi ucvlidnen nucubi-<br />
Zeze, Tumca, rogorc Cans, maSinac<br />
arsebobda dapirispireba farcxalaZesa<br />
da amJamindel premiers Soris.<br />
Cveni azriT, premieri Tavidan bolomde<br />
saqmis kursSi iyo da icoda,<br />
rom es Zalian didi danaSauli iyo.<br />
faqtobrivad, arawonad da aramarTlzomierad<br />
araTanabari Rirebulebis<br />
mqone miwaSi ucvlidnen da imis<br />
nacvlad, rom es faqti gaexmaurebina,<br />
man, ubralod, ukan daabruna es<br />
dokumenti da gankargulebis proeqti<br />
Seacvlevina, rom meti dazusteba<br />
yofiliyo dokumentSi. 2015 wlis 22<br />
maiss Tavidan gamodis gankarguleba,<br />
romelSic garkveuli Canawerebia<br />
gakeTebuli. imis mixedviT, Tu es miwebi<br />
ar aris erTnairi Rirebulebis,<br />
aseT SemTxvevaSi sxvaoba unda daefara<br />
farcxalaZis kompanias. Tumca<br />
es ase ar xdeba. rogorc Cans, farcxalaZes<br />
ar undoda arc erTi TeTris<br />
gadaxda da damatebiT ramdenime<br />
milionis Sovna surda Tbiliselebisgan.<br />
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi arc ki<br />
ganixileba es dokumenti.<br />
mTavrobas Tbilisis<br />
meriisgan,<br />
miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom gankarguleba<br />
arsebobs, miwa<br />
ar miaqvs da Tbilisis<br />
merias utovebs. ukve<br />
erTi wlis Tavze Tbilisis<br />
meria, mTavroba da sakrebulo<br />
gamoscems axal gankargulebas, sadac<br />
da miwis nakveTi, anu pirdapir ewera,<br />
rom faqtobrivad, es miwa iyidos<br />
oTar farcxalaZem. am miwaze SemdgomSi<br />
oTar farcxalaZem Tavisi xelmoweriT<br />
Tbilisis meriaSi ganacxadi<br />
Seitana, sadac Tbilisis meriisgan<br />
nebarTvas iTxovs, rom iq aaSenon<br />
4 ocsarTuliani Senoba. es aris<br />
nucubiZeze mdebare rekreaciuli<br />
zona, masobrivad gamwvanebuli teritoria,<br />
romelzec nucubiZis mosaxleoba<br />
2015 wlidan xelmowerebis<br />
gziT iTxovda, rom sacxovrebeli<br />
zona 6 Secvliliyo rekreaciuli<br />
zoniT, rom iq arasdros da aravis<br />
SesZleboda momavalSi mSenebloba da<br />
iq gakeTebuliyo axali skveri, sadac<br />
adamianebs SesaZlebloba eqnebodaT,<br />
bavSvebi CaeyvanaT da TbilisisTvis<br />
kidev erTi, damatebiT mwvane sivrce<br />
yofiliyo, rac Tbiliss dRes ase<br />
Zalian uWirs. metic: Tbilisis meriaSi<br />
arsebobs specialuri zonaluri<br />
sabWo, romelic sarekomendacio xasiaTis<br />
gadawyvetilebebs iRebs, Tu<br />
romeli teritoria ra zoniT Seicvalos.<br />
es rekomendacia zonalurma sabWom<br />
miiRo da daamtkica, gasca rekomendacia,<br />
sakrebuloSi wardgeniliyo,<br />
sakrebulos ki ukve, Tavis mxriv,<br />
gankarguleba unda gamoeca, romli-<br />
Tac, sabolood, am miwas rekreaciuli<br />
zonis statusi mieniWeboda. Tumca<br />
es ar moxda, radgan am miwiT yofili<br />
prokurori, oTar farcxalaZe<br />
dainteresda. am droisTvis aRniSnul<br />
teritoriaze msjeloben, miscen Tu<br />
ara farcxalaZes nebarTva, rom 4 ocsarTuliani<br />
Senoba aaSenos mxolod<br />
imitom, rom farcxalaZem iq damatebiT<br />
2 milioni lari miiRos? Tbilisis<br />
meria, sakrebulo, sapartnioro<br />
fondi gulmodgined malavdnen dokumentacias,<br />
rom informacias ar<br />
gaeJona da „ganaxlebul nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” ar Seetyo danaSaulebrivi<br />
sqemis Sesaxeb, romelSic CarTuli<br />
iyo saxelmwifos Zalian bevri<br />
struqtura. swored im daskvnis gamo<br />
gauswordnen farcxalaZe da misi megobrebi<br />
ase daundoblad saxelmwifo<br />
auditis ufros laSa Tordias. faqtia,<br />
rom „qarTuli ocnebis” warmomadgenlebi,<br />
maT Soris, oTar farcxalaZe,<br />
mzad aris, Tavisi qoneba, Tavisi<br />
milionebi amgvari Zaladobrivi<br />
gziT daicvas. maT Zalian kargad<br />
ician, rom es aris ukanonod mopovebuli<br />
xalxis qoneba. adre Tu gvian<br />
maT sruli pasuxismgeblobiT mouwevT<br />
kanonis winaSe pasuxisgeba.<br />
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ezo SatakiSvili<br />
me davibade gorSi da aranairi survili ar maqvs, cxovrebam<br />
momiwios da Cemi mSobliuri qalaqi iqces biZingorad, rogorc,<br />
Tavis droze, axalgori aqcies leningorad biZinamdelma „qo-<br />
cebma” _ komunistebma. magram dRes aqeTken midis yvelaferi.<br />
dRes gorma TviTon Tqva uari,<br />
iyos TviTmmarTveli qalaqi. gorma<br />
Tqva, ra, goris cixem ki ar gaxsna<br />
bageebi da daiZaxa, viRac 9 „qocma”<br />
sakrebuloelma dauWira mxari<br />
statusis gauqmebas! igive balagani<br />
gaTamaSda zugdidSic, TelavSic,<br />
sxva qalaqebSi, qalaqebs TviTon<br />
aTqmevines uari qalaqad arsebobaze.<br />
aris am procesSi raRac<br />
eqskluziurad cinikuri _ araformalur<br />
mmarTvels surs, am qveyanaSi<br />
formaluradac aRar arsebobdes<br />
qalaqebi. gviTxra, saqar-<br />
Tvelo erTi sofeliao da aqeT mihyavs<br />
mTeli qveyana. rogorc Cans,<br />
ivaniSvils Tavad surda qalaqeloba,<br />
ganicdida, rom ar iyo, miaRwia<br />
yvelafers _ SuSis sasaxle nariyalasaviT<br />
daadga Tbiliss Tavze,<br />
mainc ver iqca qalaqelad da<br />
ebrZvis im fenomens, rasac qalaqi<br />
hqvia. ver aRwev mizans da anadgureb<br />
im mizans. es imas hgavs, kaci<br />
qalis siyvaruls rom veras didebiT<br />
ver moipovebs, misdgeba da<br />
mogudavs.<br />
SemomedavebiT da metyviT, ki<br />
magram am TviTmmarTveli qalaqis<br />
statusebis miniWeba xom 2014 wels<br />
uSualod biZina ivaniSvilis xeldasxmiT<br />
moxdao? albaT, imasac<br />
daamatebT, rom ar gaamarTla da<br />
imitom auqmebso. daviwyoT iqidan,<br />
riT unda gamoxatuliyo gamarTleba<br />
da sad ver gaamarTla da<br />
axla ra da rogor gaamarTlebs,<br />
roca ase TaTariaxlad uuqmeben<br />
statuss 7 TviTmmarTvel qalaqs?<br />
diax, TaTariaxlad imitom, rom<br />
jerac ar aqvT strategia, ra da<br />
rogor iqneba Semdeg. jer auqmeben<br />
da mere apireben fiqrs. asjer<br />
gazome da erTxel gaWeri ki ara,<br />
magis dedac, gaWeri da mere ifiqre,<br />
Tu Zalian ginda. ai, esaa am<br />
xelisuflebis „stragegia”. xarjebis<br />
dazogva gvinda gamsxvilebi-<br />
To. xarjebi amiT ki ar gaizarda,<br />
imiT gaizarda, adgilobriv TviTmmarTvelobebSi<br />
qocaqtivistebi<br />
„kamaziT” rom miiyvaneT da „nasipad”<br />
SeyareT, Statebi gabereT da<br />
gazuluqdiT. rac Seexeba statusis<br />
2014-Si micemas da axla warTmevas,<br />
esec SurisZiebaa. goric,<br />
zugdidic, Telavic da sxvac iyo<br />
qalaqi da am qalaqis mcxovreblebma<br />
es biZosgan naboZebi statusis<br />
gareSec gadasarevad icodnden.<br />
axla ra xdeba? misca am qalaqebs<br />
TviTmmarTveli qalaqis satusi,<br />
axla waarTva da gauTanabra<br />
Tems. anu TviTmmarTvels qalaqic<br />
gaayola da datova mSralze. axla<br />
am qalaqebis qalaqoba folkloriRaa<br />
_ furcelze gadautaneli,<br />
zepirsityviereba.<br />
komunistebsac ar uqniaT es,<br />
goris raions hyavda raikomis mdivani<br />
da gors hyavda qalaqkomis<br />
mdivani. es qalaqebi gansxvavdeboda<br />
sxva raionuli centebisgan,<br />
romlebic iyvnen ama Tu im raionis<br />
administraciuli centrebi da<br />
ar iyvnen respublikuri daqvemdebarebis<br />
qalaqebi.<br />
arqeologiuri masalebi mowmobs,<br />
rom gorSi, jer kidev, Zveli<br />
da axali welTaRricxvis mijnaze<br />
arsebobda qalaquri tipis<br />
dasaxleba. matianeebSi gori me-7<br />
saukunidan ixsenieba; xolo rogorc<br />
savaWro qalaqi daaarsa daviT<br />
aRmaSenebelma.<br />
goris qalaqobas ar Sexebia<br />
TviT ruseTis imperia, metic, 1801<br />
wels ruseTis imperiam gori oficialurad<br />
gamoacxada qalaqad!<br />
diax, saqarTvelos qalaqebis absolutur<br />
umetesobas qalaqis<br />
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statusi miRebuli aqvs gasabWoebis<br />
Semdeg! ruseTis imperiis<br />
dros gori samazro qalaqi iyo,<br />
1930 wlidan goris raionis administraciul<br />
centrad gamoacxades,<br />
1950 wlidan respublikuri daqvemdebarebis<br />
qalaqi gaxda, 2014 wlidan<br />
_ TviTmmarTveli qalaqi.<br />
da axla, am gauqmebebis mere, ra<br />
iqneba Tems mierTebuli gori? ras<br />
niSnavs, qalaqis statusi waarTva<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis raodenobis<br />
mixedviT sididiT mexuTe<br />
qalaqs (saqarTveloSi gorze meti<br />
adamiani cxovrobs mxolod TbilisSi,<br />
baTumSi, quTaissa da rus-<br />
TavSi)? gorSi cxovrobs 50 aTasamde<br />
adamiani, foTSi, romelsac<br />
statuss utoveben, 41 aTasi adamiani.<br />
ra logikiT utovebT da uuqmebT<br />
qalaqebs statuss?<br />
mkiTxvels Sevaxseneb: TviTmmarTveli<br />
qalaqis statusi hqonda<br />
12 qalaqs, axla utoveben mxolod<br />
Tbiliss, rusTavs, quTaiss, foTsa<br />
da baTums da arTmeven: gors,<br />
zugdids, Telavs, axalcixes, mcxeTas,<br />
ozurgeTsa da ambrolaurs.<br />
mcxeTa dRes araa didi qalaqi,<br />
mosaxleobiT, 28-e adgilzea saqarTveloSi,<br />
magram „qocebo”,<br />
qarTvelobis „erTgulo guSagebo”,<br />
axla ar garTmeven qarTvelobas,<br />
uZveles qalaqs, iberiis<br />
sataxto qalaqs, qarTvel mefeTa<br />
saZvales rom qalaqis statuss namusiviT<br />
xdian? an Tqven, Telavelo<br />
„qocebo”, goreli, zugdideli<br />
„qocebis” ar iyos, mogwyindaT<br />
„gorodSi” cxovreba? axla aRarafrad<br />
giRirT xom Tqveni qalaqis<br />
istoria? mag adgilebSi, jer kidev,<br />
gviandel brinjaos xanaSi dasaxlda<br />
xalxi da antikur xanaSi<br />
warmoiqmna qalaqis tipis dasaxleba.<br />
axla isic CurCxelaze gkidiaT<br />
xom, Zveli berZeni georgafi rom<br />
ixseniebda Tavis „geografiaSi”,<br />
aRarc is ganaRvlebT, romeli saukunidan<br />
ixsenieboda qalaqi qarTul<br />
wyaroebSi, sadac axla<br />
Tqven daqocaobT da arc is, XII<br />
saukuneSi saqarTvelos erT-erTi<br />
umniSvnelovanesi qalaqi rom iyo<br />
ganviTarebuli vaWrobiTa da xelosnobiT?<br />
axla aRar aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />
mag qalaqze odesRac<br />
didi saqaravno gzebi gadioda, Tu<br />
viris „taCka”, xom? arc is ganaRvlebT,<br />
me-17-18 saukuneebSi Telavi<br />
mwignobrobis kerad da kaxeTis<br />
sataxto qalaqad rom iqca? aRarc<br />
1758 wels daarsebuli safilosofoso-saRvTismetyvelo<br />
skola,<br />
odnav mogvianebiT seminariad rom<br />
iqca? aRarc mand gamarTuli saskolo<br />
speqtaklebi, Telavis Teatris<br />
dasabamad rom iqca da aqamde<br />
Tavi mogqondaT uZvelesi TeatriT?<br />
gekiTxebiT, es yvelaferi<br />
soflad xdeboda Tu qalaqad?<br />
ras eubnebiT axalcixes, sadac<br />
qalaqis tipis dasaxleba, jer kidev,<br />
eneoliTis xanaSi arsebobda?<br />
am qalaqis istoria IX saukunidan<br />
iwyeba, Tumca, rogorc vaxuSti<br />
batoniSvili brZanebs, maSin es<br />
qalaqi lomsiad iwodeboda. „matiane<br />
qarTlisais” cnobiT, es qalaqi<br />
guaram mamfals auSenebia, axalcixed<br />
ki mas Semdeg iwoda, rac samcxis<br />
aTabagebma _ jayelebma aRadgines<br />
da ganaaxles. SemdegSi axalcixe<br />
iqca jayelTa sabrZanisad<br />
da mTeli samcxe-saaTabagos dedaqalaqi<br />
iyo; Semdeg samcxe-saaTabago<br />
osmalebma daipyres da axalcixe<br />
axalcixis safaSos centri<br />
oRondac,<br />
biZingors ar<br />
daarqmevdnen<br />
gors<br />
gaxda, sadac isxdnen gamahmadianebuli<br />
aTabagebi _ axalcixis faSebi;<br />
1829 wlidan axalcixe ruseTis<br />
imperiaSi Sevida da 1840 wlidan<br />
mieniWa qalaqis statusi.<br />
Sveicarieli mogzauri diubua<br />
`mcxeTa dRes araa didi qalaqi, mosaxleobiT,<br />
28-e adgilzea saqarTveloSi, magram `qocebo~,<br />
qarTvelobis `erTgulo guSagebo~, axla ar<br />
garTmeven qarTvelobas, uZveles qalaqs,<br />
iberiis sataxto qalaqs, qarTvel mefeTa<br />
saZvales rom qalaqis statuss namusiviT<br />
xdian? an Tqven, Telavelo `qocebo~, goreli,<br />
zugdideli `qocebis~ ar iyos, mogwyindaT<br />
`gorodSi~ cxovreba?~<br />
de monpere werda: „Sedixar mSvenier<br />
qalaq axalcixeSi”...<br />
mokled, biZina ebdRvna qalaqebs,<br />
sadac odesRac msxdaran farnavazianebi<br />
(mcxeTa), aTabagebi _<br />
jayelebi (axalcixe), dadianebi<br />
(zugdidi), bagrationebi (Telavi)...<br />
vici, metyviT, rom maT qalaqobas<br />
aravin exeba, rom isini iseve<br />
iqnebian qalaqebi, rogoricaa, vTqvaT,<br />
saCxere, WiaTura, romlebic<br />
qalaqebad ixseniebian, magram ar<br />
arian TviTmmarTveli qalaqebi.<br />
bevri maseTi qalaqi arc istoriulad<br />
iyo qalaqi da maTTvis qalaqis<br />
darqmeva ufro Tavazianobas<br />
hgavda, vidre realobis Sefasebas.<br />
magxelebi qarTlsa da kaxeTSi<br />
soflebis ubnebia _ teritorii-<br />
Tac da mcxovreblebiTac. saCxereSi<br />
sul 6 aTasi kaci cxovrobs,<br />
rom icodeT; cagerSi _ 1320 kaci,<br />
magdeni qarTlisa da kaxeTis zogi<br />
soflis skolaSi dadis, araTu cxovrobs.<br />
esec rom ara, danakargia is,<br />
rac gqonda da aRar gaqvs da ara<br />
is, rac arasodes gqonia!<br />
axsnas vinmem, ras niSnavs, rodesac<br />
qveynis umsxviles qalaqebs,<br />
nacvlad imisa, rom meti funqcia<br />
SesZino, gaamsxvilo, rom Tbilisi<br />
ar geqces Tavkombalad, piriqiT _<br />
alaboranteb? Tu Semcireba da<br />
gamsxvilebaa, SeamcireT da gaamsxvileT<br />
saministroebi da SeeSviT<br />
qalaqebs! magram im saministoreb-<br />
Si xom Tqven „cxovrobT” da ras<br />
SeexebiT, ras SeexebiT Tqven skamebs<br />
da savarZlebs?!<br />
ivaniSvils, albaT, did mxedar-<br />
TmTavrad warmoudgenia Tavi da<br />
tkbeba, rogor abareben dacemuli<br />
qalaqebis mesveurebi am qalaqTa<br />
gasaRebebs.<br />
quTaiss, albaT, imas ver Sehbedavs,<br />
rac Sehbeda axalcixes, Telavs,<br />
gorsa da zugdids, magram<br />
dResaviT naTelia, rom quTaiss<br />
aaxevs saparlamento qalaqis statuss.<br />
anda ratom ver Sehbedavs<br />
quTaiss, zebra dauSlis, zvigeni<br />
Tu misi yurmoWrili parlamenti?<br />
albaT, is dRec dadgeba, rom Tbiliszec<br />
ityvis, aranairi qalaqi es<br />
araao da filarmonias dagimSvenebT<br />
abriT: „soflis klubi”.<br />
da Tqven vin xarT, vinc axla am<br />
yvelafers arafrad imCnevT? da<br />
piriqiT, cdilobT kidec, rom<br />
saxidan kmayofilebis grimasa ar<br />
gagiqreT? CrdilSi mainc gadeqiT,<br />
vazelini metismetad laplapebs<br />
mzeze...<br />
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gigi TevzaZe parlamentis<br />
rezo SatakiSvili<br />
swored am sxvadasxva religiur institutze<br />
gadanawildeba.<br />
procesi, romelzedac vsaubrobdiT<br />
didxans, aucileblad daiwyeba is<br />
qveyanaSi arsebul viTarebaze<br />
„qronika+”-s esaubreba gigi TevzaZe:<br />
_ Zalze Znelia gaerkve, realu-<br />
rad, ra xdeba e. w. cianidis saqmeSi.<br />
adamiani berZnul miTologiaSi uf-<br />
da aucileblad moxdeba eklesiis<br />
depolitizacia (desakralizaciis<br />
analogi Tanamedrove sociumSi). ek-<br />
_ batono gigi, 2012 wlis<br />
ro swrafad da iolad gaerkvevi, vilesia<br />
iqceva Cveulebriv struqarCevnebis<br />
Semdeg, rodesac „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” gamarjvebas yvela cixis<br />
kadrebs miawerda, maTgan gansx-<br />
vavebiT, Tqven pirvelma daukav-<br />
SireT „ocnebis” gamarjveba eklesi-<br />
is rolsa da gavlenas.<br />
_ diax, maSin bevri ar aqcevda amas<br />
yuradRebas da rodesac es vTqvi,<br />
aravis moewona _ arc xelisuflebas,<br />
arc opozicias.<br />
_ arCevnebidan ramdenime TveSi<br />
ki eklesiam Zalebis Ria demonstr-<br />
ireba ganaxorciela, vgulisxmob 17<br />
maiss ganviTarebul movlenebs. re-<br />
alurad, maT saxelmwifos daanaxves<br />
Zala da lgbt Tema, ubralod, saba-<br />
bi iyo mrevlis quCaSi gamosayvanad.<br />
dRes ra suraTi gvaqvs da ras uqa-<br />
dis es Cvens saxelmwifoebriobas,<br />
rodesac eklesias amxela gavlena<br />
aqvs?<br />
_ roca vTqvi, rom „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
15%-iT gamarjveba eklesiis<br />
damsaxureba iyo, aseve vTqvi isic,<br />
rom es, saboloo jamSi, gamoiwvevda<br />
eklesiis reitingis vardnas. asec<br />
moxda. Cven vxedavT, rom, yovelwliurad,<br />
10-12%-iT mcirdeba im xalxis<br />
raodenoba, vinc miiCnevs, rom eklesia<br />
Zalian kargad muSaobs. es, bunebrivia,<br />
da ase xdeba maSin, rodesac<br />
simboluri Zalaufleba realur,<br />
politikur Zalauflebad iqceva. Tu<br />
ase gagrZelda, savaraudod, eklesiis<br />
avtoriteti Cveulebrivi saxelmwifo<br />
organizaciis avtoritetis msgavsi<br />
gaxdeba da politikosebsac ase<br />
aRar SeeSindebaT eklesiis. mxolod<br />
dRes ki ara, sul iyo qarTul politikaSi<br />
eklesiis SiSis faqtori. Sei-<br />
Zleba, es SiSi iyo, SeiZleba, eklesiis<br />
avtritetis saTavisod gamoyenebis<br />
survili, yovel SemTxvevaSi, es<br />
faqtori sul muSaobda da Tu igi<br />
nel-nela Seneldeba da saerTod<br />
gaqreba, es mxolod kargia _ eklesiis<br />
funqcia aRar iqneba politikaSi<br />
Careva. eklesiis politikaSi moRvaweoba,<br />
ra Tqma unda, eklesiis funqciaa,<br />
magram Sua saukuneebis da ara<br />
Tanamedrove eklesiis. eklesia<br />
daubrundeba Tavis postmodernistul<br />
funqcias _ mixedavs rwmenas,<br />
qvelmoqmedebas, morwmuneebTan dialogs<br />
da a. S. _ rogorc iqcevian<br />
dRes Tanamedrove eklesiebi, imisTvis,<br />
rom mrevli SeinarCunon.<br />
_ caxdia, eg procesi jansaRi<br />
procesia, magram eklesiis reiting-<br />
is vardna ar gamoiwvevs rwmenis<br />
dakargvas adamianebSi? wesiT, adamianis<br />
rwmena ar unda iyos damokidebuli<br />
arc eklesiasa da arc konkre-<br />
tuli moZRvris mimarT ndobaze,<br />
magram, samwuxarod, dRes Zalian<br />
bevrisTvis rwmena mibmulia eklesi-<br />
is mimarT ndobaze.<br />
_ adamians rwmenis dasaZlevad<br />
didi Zalisxmeva da inteleqtualuri<br />
resursebi sWirdeba, Torem TviTon<br />
rwmena, bunebrivia, adamianisTvis<br />
arsad gaqreba da aravin dakargavs.<br />
es, ubralod, SeuZlebelia. amas ukve<br />
Tanamedrove mkvlevrebic acxadeben.<br />
adre, kerZod, veberis Semdeg, maT<br />
iluzia hqondaT, rom rwmena gaqreboda<br />
da aRar iqneboda ase Zlieri,<br />
magram rogorc Tanamedrove kvlevebi<br />
aCvenebs, rwmena ar qreba. saqar-<br />
TveloSi eklesiis reitingis vardnis<br />
kvaldakval SigniTac Sesustdeba<br />
Zalaufleba da Tu es moxdeba, savaraudod,<br />
daiwyeba eklesiis gaxleCa,<br />
sqizmaturi eklesiebis warmoSoba da<br />
rwmena ki ar gaqreba, an daikargeba,<br />
dre am saqmeSi. detalebs rom moveS-<br />
vaT, mTlianobaSi, es ra procesia?<br />
_ zustad eg procesia, eklesiis<br />
rRvevis procesi. politikur procesebSi<br />
pirdapir Carevamde eklesiis<br />
Zalaufleba simboluri iyo da,<br />
amdenad, Zalian Zlieri Zalaufleba<br />
gaxldaT, Sesabamisad, misi yvelas<br />
eSinoda. mas mere, rac es simboluri<br />
Zalaufleba iqca realur, politikur<br />
Zalauflebad, absoluturi<br />
Zalaufleba daikarga, daiwyo rRvevis<br />
procesi, brZola Zalauflebis<br />
gadanawilebisTvis. araferi gansakuTrebuli<br />
ar xdeba, xdeba is, rac<br />
xdeba xolme, rac wignebSi wagvikiTxavs,<br />
rac xdeboda Sua saukuneebSi,<br />
ubralod, raki Cven am yvelafris<br />
momswreni varT, gviWirs saerTo suraTis<br />
danaxva, Torem, TavisTavad, es<br />
sxva araferia, Tu ara didi centralizebuli<br />
da gavleniani eklesiis<br />
rRveva. es procesi rogor damTavrdeba,<br />
ar vici.<br />
_ es procesi ramdenad Sedis<br />
ivaniSvilis interesebSi? faqtia,<br />
rom mosvlis dRidan misi upirve-<br />
lesi amocana iyo yvela gavleniani<br />
piris ganeitraleba, visac ki SeeZ-<br />
lo safrTxe Seeqmna misi Zalaufl-<br />
ebisTvis. Sesabamisad, nawili saqar-<br />
Tvelodan gaaqcia, nawili cixeSi ga-<br />
moamwyvdia. ivaniSvili gadasarevad<br />
xvdeba, rom eklesiis avtoriteti,<br />
romelic mas 2012 wels gamarjveba-<br />
Si daexmara, dRes ukve safrTxis<br />
Semcvelia, radgan gamoricxuli<br />
sulac ar aris, fsoni sxva Zalaze<br />
dadon, an quCaSi xalxi gamoiyvanon.<br />
faqtia, rom am qveyanaSi xalxis qu-<br />
CaSi gamoyvana SeuZlia orad or Zalas<br />
_ eklesias da, uSualod, saakaS-<br />
vils.<br />
_ axla, 17 maiss, gamoCnda, rom<br />
eklesiasac, maincdamainc, aRar Seu-<br />
Zlia ukve imdeni xalxis gamoyvana<br />
quCaSi, ramdenic 2013 wlis 17 maiss<br />
gamoiyvana. rogorc ukve vTqviT, ma-<br />
Sin hqondaT simboluri da, Sesabamisad,<br />
upirobo Zalaufleba da dRes<br />
aqvT ukve politikuri Zalaufleba,<br />
rac, politikosebisTvis imdenad sa-<br />
SiSi ukve aRar aris. SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
rom arsebul xelisuflebasa da<br />
mis araformalur mmarTvel ivaniSvils<br />
es dasustebis procesi awyobs<br />
kidec. eklesia xdeba erT-erTi politikuri<br />
aqtori da aRar iqneba zepolitikuri<br />
da zesocialuri aqtori<br />
da Sesabamisad, am saero xelisuflebis<br />
mizani, garkveulwilad, ukve<br />
miRweulia. wina xelisuflebis mizanic<br />
es iyo, ubralod, maT ver moaxerxes<br />
da piriqiT, xeli Seuwyves eklesiis<br />
simboluri Zalauflebis ga-<br />
Zlierebas. axla marTlac Zalian<br />
sainteresoa, rogor moiqceva arsebuli<br />
xelisufleba _ daiwyebs eklesiis<br />
SenarCunebaze zrunvas, Seecdeba,<br />
rom gamoiyenos eklesia?..<br />
_ patriarqad gaiyvanon sasurve-<br />
li piri...<br />
_ diax, gaiyvanon sasurveli patriarqi,<br />
SeinarCunon eklesia, rogorc<br />
raRacnairi legitimaciis instituti,<br />
rac, albaT, yvelaze didi<br />
Secdoma iyo saakaSvilis mTavrobis.<br />
SeiZleba, es gaimeoron, SeiZleba, ma-<br />
Tac hqondeT iluzia, rac hqondaT<br />
saakaSvilsa da Jvanias, rom isini<br />
moaxerxebdnen eklesiis gamoyenebas<br />
sakuTari Zalauflebis gansamtkiceblad...<br />
SeiZleba, es saqme dinebaze<br />
miuSvan da Tu es ase moxda, eklesiis<br />
desakralizacia Zalian male moxdeba<br />
da eklesia iqneba Cveulebrivi sazogadoebrivi<br />
instituti, miiRebs im<br />
formas, romelic dRes aqvs nebismier<br />
Tanamedrove evropul saxelmwifoSi,<br />
rodesac misi gavlena didi ar<br />
aris da is gaxlavT rwmenis/sazogadoebis<br />
mowyobis konkretuli formis<br />
gamavrcelebeli da ara politikuri<br />
Zalauflebis mqone instituti.<br />
es, adre Tu gvian, aucileblad,<br />
yvela variantSi moxdeba, ubralod,<br />
xelisuflebazea damokidebuli, ramdenad<br />
_ swrafad. rasac me vuyureb<br />
dRevandel mTavrobas, orive varianti<br />
SesaZlebelia. vnaxoT, gaumklavdebian<br />
Tu ara isini cdunebas, gamoiyenon<br />
eklesia Tavisi politikuri<br />
miznebisTvis. Tu gaumklavdebian,<br />
maSin Zalian male moxdeba es procesi,<br />
eklesias Cveulebrivad daakisreben<br />
gadasaxadebs da, Sesabamisad,<br />
eklesia aRar iqneba karieris momxibvleli<br />
gza, rogorc dResaa. amJamad<br />
saqarTveloSi ori warmatebuli<br />
karieruli xazi arsebobs, sadac adamianebs<br />
SeuZliaT, kariera gaikeTon<br />
mcire energetikuli danaxarjebiT<br />
da gansakuTrebuli unarebis gare-<br />
Sec. es aris politika da eklesia.<br />
daaxloebiT erTi da igive struqtura<br />
muSaobs am SemTxvevaSi. cxadia,<br />
yvela ara, magram im axalgazrdebis<br />
umetesoba, romelic Zalian bevrs<br />
darbis dRes da icavs muSaTa uflebebs,<br />
gamodis memarcxene lozungebiT,<br />
Tavis Tavs moiazrebs, rogorc<br />
momaval parlamentars; abjrosnebi,<br />
Coxosnebi da es axalgazrdebi ki,<br />
vinc icaven ojaxis „siwmindes”, Tavs<br />
xedaven eklesiis mimarTulebiT. Zalian<br />
ucnauria, isini TiTqos erTmaneTis<br />
winaaRmdeg arian, magram,<br />
faqtobrivad, orive sakuTar Tavs<br />
xedavs advil karierul xazSi. orive<br />
es fuqncia _ parlamenti da eklesia,<br />
rogoric dRes aris saqarTvelo-<br />
Si, principSi rudimentuli funqciaa,<br />
romelic, adre Tu gvian, unda<br />
gaqres, imitom rom Tanamedrove samyaroSi<br />
arc parlamentia saWiro imisTvis,<br />
rom demokratiuli qveyana da<br />
angariSvaldebuleba arsebobdes da<br />
arc msgavsi eklesia aris saWiro imisTvis,<br />
rom vinmes swamdes da rwmena<br />
sakuTari cxovrebis mowyobis orientirad<br />
aqcios.<br />
_ batono gigi, eklesiis avtori-<br />
teti bevrwilad idga da dResac<br />
dgas patriarqis uSualo, pirad av-<br />
toritetze. romc Zalian ecados<br />
xelisufleba eklesiis avtoritetis,<br />
gavlenis SenarCunebasa da saT-<br />
avisod gamoyenebas, Semdegi patriarqis<br />
pirobebSi gamouvaT? ra avtoritetic<br />
dRes ilia II-s aqvs, eqneba<br />
Semdeg patriarqs es da, Sesabam-<br />
isad, eklesias?<br />
_ eg jer ar viciT, rogor iqneba,<br />
imitom rom 80-ian wlebSi arc ilia I-<br />
s hqonda iseTi avtoriteti, rogorc<br />
axla aqvs. es avtoriteti iyo da aris<br />
didi meToduri muSaobis Sedegi. piradi<br />
cxovrebis Sesaxeb gavrcelebuli<br />
Worebis miuxedavad, man moaxerxa<br />
realuri simboluri Zalauflebis<br />
mopoveba, ase rom, SeuZlebeli araferia.<br />
magram es romc moxdes da xelisuflebamac<br />
ver gauZlos cdunebas<br />
da Seecados eklesiis Senar-<br />
Cunebas, es mainc ar gagrZeldeba<br />
turad da sabolood dakargavs simbolur<br />
Zalauflebas.<br />
_ batono gigi, saerTod, efemer-<br />
uli xom araa patriarqis is maRali<br />
reitingi, romlzedac vsaubrobT?<br />
igive NDI-is kvlevebSi miRebuli<br />
procentebi? rodesac gvimtkiceben,<br />
rom patriarqs aqvs 90-95%-iani<br />
ndobis reitingi, elementarulad,<br />
miCndeba kiTxva: ranairad endoba<br />
marTlmadidebel patriarqs im qvey-<br />
nis mosaxleobis 90-95%, romlis<br />
10,7% oficialurad muslimania,<br />
3,9% _ grigorianelia, sadac cx-<br />
ovroben kaTolikebi, iudevelebi,<br />
sadac amden sxvadasxva religiur<br />
konfesias, aseve e. w. seqtebs hyavs<br />
mimdevari, aRarafers vambob aTeistebze...<br />
Tu me alahi mwams, ranairadaa<br />
sando CemTvis qristiani patri-<br />
arqi da Tu patriarqs vendobi, ra-<br />
Ratom mwams alahis? aseTi Sedegi<br />
miviReT an araswori sociologiuri<br />
iuri<br />
kvleviT, an arasworad dasmuli<br />
kiTxviT. magaliTad: Tu dainteres-<br />
debian, vendobi Tu ara gigi Tevza-<br />
Zes da me vetyvi „ki”-s, es imas ar<br />
niSnavs, rom Tu mkiTxav, vis vendo-<br />
bi, iq davasaxeleb aucileblad gigi<br />
TevaZes da ara sxvas. an esaa samebis<br />
ezoSi Catarebuli kvlevebi.<br />
_ ara, es ase ar aris. eg ndoba<br />
niSnavs ndobas da mets arafers. es<br />
ar niSnavs imas, rom politikur reitingSi<br />
is maRal safexurzea, ara, es,<br />
ubralod, aris is, rom masze aqvT<br />
warmodgena, rogorc sando subieqtze<br />
da es bevrs arafers niSnavs.<br />
meore mxriv, Cveni sazogadoeba didwilad<br />
mainc tradiciuli sazogadoebaa<br />
da garkveul kiTxvebze avtomaturad<br />
gpasuxobs da im kiTxvebze<br />
Tavis „realur” azrs arasodes<br />
getyvis. zustad es xdeba, rodesac<br />
politikuri partiebi amboben, sociologiuri<br />
gamokiTxvebi ar muSaobso.<br />
Tu davakvirdebiT, es kvlevebi<br />
yovelTvis amarTlebs opoziciaze<br />
da ar amarTlebs mmarTvel partiaze.<br />
ratom? imitom, rom mmarTveli partiis<br />
yovelTvis eSiniaT da eridebian<br />
azris gamoTqmas, opoziciaze ki<br />
yovelTvis amboben Tavis azrs. swored<br />
aseve xdeba eklesiis SemTxveva-<br />
Si. pasuxi patriarqis ndobaze, principSi,<br />
avtomaturi pasuxia da ara<br />
dafiqrebis Sedegi. samagierod, gamokiTxulebi<br />
realurad pasuxoben ki-<br />
Txvaze, _ kargad muSaobs Tu ara sapatriarqo?<br />
ukve mcirdeba is nawili,<br />
vinc fiqrobs da pasuxobs, rom sapatriarqo<br />
kargad muSaobs. es ukve realuri<br />
pasuxia, anu es aris ara abstraqtuli<br />
ndoba, aramed realurad<br />
nafiqri pasuxi konkretul kiTxvaze.<br />
_ batono gigi, Cven aqamde saqme<br />
gvqonda politikur liderebTan,<br />
politikosebTan _ iqneboda es disidenturi<br />
begraundis zviad gamsaxurdia,<br />
komunisturi begraundis Se-<br />
vardnaZe, Tu axali Taobis politi-<br />
kosebi _ Jvania, saakaSvili. faqtia,<br />
ivaniSvili axali tipis lideria<br />
Cvens realobaSi. Tqveni azriT, ra<br />
fenomenia ivaniSvili?<br />
_ araferi iseTi gansakuTrebuli<br />
araa, rac Cven ar gvinaxavs aqamde. mas<br />
formalurad ar ukavia axla Tanamdeboba,<br />
Torem Cveulebrivi politikuri<br />
lideria. da Cveni realobisTvis<br />
sulac ar gaxlavT ucxo<br />
araformaluri mmarTveloba. metic,<br />
Cven udidisi gamocdileba gvaqvs am<br />
mxriv. gaixseneT, vin iyvnen politikuri<br />
liderebi sabWoTa periodSi.<br />
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gauqmebis ideiT<br />
formalurad mTavrobis Tavmjdomare<br />
iyo qveynis mmarTveli da kompartiis<br />
arc erTi lideri, formalurad,<br />
arafer SuaSi ar iyo mTavrobasTan,<br />
garda imisa, rom konstituciaSi<br />
ewera: komunistur partias<br />
aqvs warmmarTveli roli da a. S.<br />
formalurad viRac iyo mTavrobis<br />
Tavmjdomare, magram, sinamdvileSi,<br />
yvelafers wyvetda cekas mdivani da<br />
es yvelam icoda.<br />
_ ki magram, cekas mdivnebs cekas<br />
mdivnis posti mainc ekavaT.<br />
_ eg posti ekavaT formalurad,<br />
sinamdvileSi ki isini iyvnen realuri<br />
mmarTvelebi, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
maT funqciebSi arsad eweraT qveynis<br />
mmarTveloba. igive SevardnaZec<br />
sabWoTa periodSi qveynis araformaluri<br />
lideri iyo, imitom rom<br />
formalurad partiis lideri iyo da<br />
ara _ mTavrobis. amitom rodesac<br />
amboben, „uime, es ivaniSvili ra aris”,<br />
araferi „uime” es ivaniSvili ar aris.<br />
_ anu am araformalur mmarT-<br />
velobas Tqven ganixilavT, rogorc<br />
sabWoTa gadmonaSTs?<br />
_ ufro zustad, amis sayovelTao<br />
sazogadoebrivi mimReoba aris sabWo-<br />
Ta kavSiris reliqti. ivaniSvili amitomac<br />
ar ukvirT saqarTveloSi.<br />
amomrCevlis didma nawilma sabWoTa<br />
droSi icxovra, is periodi gamoiara<br />
da maTTvis ucnauri sulac araa es,<br />
Cveulebriv ambad aRiqvamen, radgan<br />
axsendebaT SevardnaZe, mJavanaZe, cekas<br />
sxva mdivnebi, romlebic ar iyvnen<br />
mTavrobis Tavmjdomareebi, magram<br />
qveyanas marTavdnen. yvelam icoda,<br />
rom mTavrobis Tavmjdomare iyo<br />
yovelTvis meore piri qveyanaSi, Tu<br />
mesame ara. am mxriv dResac zustad<br />
igive viTarebaa saqarTveloSi.<br />
_ swored mag gadmosaxedidan,<br />
ramdenad marTebulad da momgebianad<br />
geCvenebaT gauTavebeli peda-<br />
lireba mxolod imaze, rom igi<br />
araformalurad marTavs qveyanas?<br />
esec rom ara, formaluric rom<br />
iyos, varga ramed?<br />
_ zustad eg aris saqme, rodesac<br />
opozicia laparakobs, rom ivaniSvilis<br />
mTavari danaSauli araformaluri<br />
mmarTvelobaa, es amomrCevlisTvis<br />
arc aRiqmeba seriozulad,<br />
amaze pedalireba maTTvis sasaciloc<br />
kia, imitom rom cxovrebis didi<br />
nawili araformalur mmarTveloba-<br />
Si aqvs gatarebuli. ra Tqma unda,<br />
opozicia Zalian bevr Secdomas uSvebs,<br />
rodesac laparakobs „qarTul<br />
ocnebaze” da ivaniSvilze. sinamdvileSi,<br />
saqarTvelos problema is ki<br />
araa, dRes vinaa mTavrobaSi, an formaluri<br />
mmarTvelobaa Tu araformaluri,<br />
Cveni problema isaa, rom<br />
realuri cvlilebebi aravis unda,<br />
maT Soris, arc opozicias. imitom,<br />
rom fiqroben, TviTonac rom movlen,<br />
raRaca msgavsad iqnebian, nawili<br />
parlamentSi dasxdeba, nawili _ mTavrobaSi<br />
da a. S. saboloo jamSi, realurad,<br />
es opozicia gadaiqca molaparake<br />
uTavo arsebad, laparakoben<br />
da aranairi Sedegi araa. xandaxan<br />
STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom arc undaT,<br />
amomrCevelma gaugos maT da daujeros.<br />
isini ar laparakoben imas,<br />
rac amomrCevels awuxebs. ar fiqroben<br />
da ar laparakoben imaze, Tu ratom<br />
aris amomrCeveli nihilisturad<br />
ganwyobili politikis mimarT.<br />
_ ra aris nihilizmis mizezi?<br />
ratomaa ganwyobili nihilisturad?<br />
_ imitom, rom intuiciurad yvela<br />
grZnobs, _ es 150 kaci parlamentSi,<br />
ubralod, arasaWiro xalxia.<br />
yvela xedavs, rom aranairi azri ar<br />
aqvs am 150 kacis arCevas da parlamentSi<br />
yolas. politikis mimarT sazogdoebis<br />
nihilizmi da apaTia ami-<br />
Taa gamowveuli. parlamenti gadaiqca<br />
karieris gzad, yvela xedavs, rom<br />
es xalxi parlamentSi midis imitom,<br />
rom gaimyaros poziciebi, gaafar-<br />
Toos biznesi, hqondes maRali xelfasi,<br />
premia, pensia. garda amisa, yvela<br />
xedavs imasac, rom parlamenti ki<br />
ara, mTavroba wers kanonebs. xom yvelam<br />
icis es? saerTod, ra saWiroa<br />
maSin parlamenti? amitomac aRaravis<br />
unda arCevnebze misvla, aRar ainteresebT,<br />
vin moxvdeba da vin ar moxvdeba<br />
iq. es araa mxolod saqarTvelos<br />
problema, ukve mTel msoflioSi<br />
yovelwliurad mcirdeba im adamianebis<br />
ricxvi, romlebic arCevnebze<br />
midian. axla yvelaze ufro swori<br />
iqneba, opoziciam xalxs mimarTos<br />
da erTad ifiqros, rogor Seicvalos<br />
es moZvelebuli da yovlad<br />
uvargisi sistema. Tanamedrove eleqtronuli<br />
miRwevebi namdvilad iZleva<br />
imis saSualebas, rom xalxma<br />
pirdapir airCios mTavroba da xalxmave<br />
gamoiTxovos ukan mTavrobis<br />
wevri. Zalian advilia amis gakeTeba,<br />
SeiZleba, mobilurSic ki gvqondes<br />
amis aplikacia viRacis arCevisa da<br />
viRacis gamowvevis. am 150 kacis arCeva<br />
da Senaxva, saerTod, ra saWiroa?<br />
_ anu Tqven ambobT, rom mosax-<br />
leobam pirdapir airCios mTavroba<br />
da saerTod amovardes parlamentis<br />
rgoli. dRes piriqiT xdeba, prezi-<br />
dentsac aRar gvarCevineben da<br />
imasac parlamentis asarCevs xdian.<br />
_ egec imitom, rom parlamentSi<br />
yvela viRacis gayvanas cdilobs da<br />
iq, saboloo jamSi, yvelaze ufro<br />
umoqmedo da morCili xalxi xvdeba.<br />
axla bevrs bWoben konstituciis<br />
proeqtze: saerTod, ra azri aqvs im<br />
konstituciaze laparaks, romelic<br />
geubneba, rom es 150 kaci, romelsac<br />
airCev, aris Seni warmomadgeneli. sinamdvileSi,<br />
arc arafris warmomadgenelia.<br />
risi, visi warmomadgenelia?<br />
bevrs kamaToben proporciul, ma-<br />
Joritarul sistemebze. arc proporciulia<br />
saWiro da arc _ maJoritaruli,<br />
saerTod ra saWiroa? qveyanas<br />
sWirdeba sruliad axali tipis<br />
konstitucia, aqamde arsebuli konstituciebi,<br />
metaforulad, guTenbergis<br />
manqanis Sesabamisia. politikuri<br />
warmomadgenlobiTobis idea<br />
sabeWdi da xeliT gadasaweri informaciis<br />
droisaa: maSin es instituti<br />
imitom iyo saWiro, rom informacia<br />
im samyaroSi nela moZraobda da aucilebeli<br />
gaxldnen ndobiT aRWurvili<br />
pirebi, romlebic Sen magvrad<br />
miiRebdnen gadawyvetilebas. dRes<br />
informacia uswrafesad moZraobs da<br />
warmomadgenloba aRaravis araferSi<br />
sWirdeba. miT umetes, Tanamedrove,<br />
_ informaciis swrafi gacvlis samyaroSi<br />
sruliad araadekvarturia is<br />
maqsima, rom 4 weli unda elodo,<br />
raTa arasasurveli politikosi gadairCio.<br />
saWiroa qveynis mowyobis<br />
sruliad axali sistema, sadac mTavroba<br />
pirdapir amomrCevlis winaSe<br />
iqneba valdebuli. es gamoiwvevs decentralizaciasac,<br />
imitom rom, magaliTad,<br />
arc erT ganaTlebis ministrs<br />
ar moundeba skolis cudi tualetis<br />
gamo vinmem mis gamowvevas<br />
„daaklikos” da arc erT ekonomikis<br />
ministrs moundeba konkretul qalaqSi<br />
arsebuli qonebis gadasaxadis<br />
sistemis gamo „daCagron”. amaze unda<br />
ifiqron partiebma, Torem, Cven Cavardnili<br />
varT yovlad gaugebar<br />
wreSi, virCevT am 150 kacs, mere am<br />
150 kacs viRac, _ ivaniSvili iqneba<br />
Tu saakaSvili, _ warudgens mTavrobas<br />
da isinic airCeven, riTac ki<br />
ar izrdeba, piriqiT mcirdeba mTavrobis<br />
angariSvaldebuleba xalxis<br />
winaSe. parlamenti realurad aris<br />
buferi mTavrobasa da xalxs Soris,<br />
rom mTavrobam akeTos is, rac unda.<br />
amas xom yvela xedavs? SeiZleba, ase<br />
Camoyalibebuli ar aqvs, magram intuiciurad<br />
xom yvela grZnobs, rom<br />
es 150 kaci arafris maqnisia da es<br />
sistema saWiro araa? amitomaa apaTia<br />
da nihilizmi. romeli partiac ufro<br />
male mixvdeba, rom yvelaferi Sesacvlelia,<br />
is iqneba warmatebuli.<br />
_ qveyanaSi midis ekonomikis mo-<br />
Sla, institutebis ngreva, mTel am<br />
procesSi aSkarad ruseTis xeli urevia.<br />
calke sakiTxia, amas dRevande-<br />
li xelisufleba maTi davalebiT ax-<br />
orcielebs da maTi pirdapiri emis-<br />
aria, Tu maTTan SeuTanxmeblad? ma-<br />
gram faqtia, qveynis dauZlureba pi-<br />
rdapir Sedis ruseTis interesebSi.<br />
_ saerTaSoriso politikaSi, sabednierod,<br />
ruseTs ukve aRar Seu-<br />
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Zlia, rame dagviSavos. saqarTvelo<br />
msofliosTvis Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
wertili xdeba Savi zRvis gamo, imis<br />
gamo, rom Savi zRvis saukeTeso napiri<br />
gadazidvebisTvis saqarTvelosia.<br />
amitom vizaliberalizaciac Sedga<br />
da natos Zalebic Semova Sav<br />
zRvaSi da amerikuli bazebic aSendeba<br />
saqarTveloSi. es yvelaferi<br />
moxdeba, magram _ Cveni politikosebis<br />
Careva-Caurevlobis miuxedavad.<br />
es yovelTvis ase iyo da, sxvaTa Soris,<br />
yovelTvis ase iqneba... axla CvenTvis<br />
Zalian kargi droa, rom, faqtobrivad,<br />
nel-nela neitraldeba<br />
saqarTvelos sagareo safrTxeebi,<br />
nel-nela ufro da ufro meti evropa<br />
da aSS iqneba saqarTveloSi. mTavari<br />
am SemTxvevaSi aris is, ras ake-<br />
Tebs esa Tu is politikuri partia<br />
Tu mTavroba qveyanaSi SigniT? swored<br />
aqaa problema. rasac me vxedav,<br />
saxelmwifo kontrolis Semcirebis<br />
nacvlad saxelmwifo kontroli<br />
izrdeba. principSi, amaze sazogadoebrivi<br />
Tanxmobac ar arsebobs, isev da<br />
isev, gaunaTleblobis gamo. bevrs miaCnia,<br />
rom saxelmwifo kontrolis<br />
zrda kargia, arada, saerTaSoriso<br />
praqtika sawinaaRmdegos mowmobs.<br />
garda amisa, xdeba cnebebis aRreva,<br />
saxelmwifo totaluri mmarTveloba<br />
saqarTveloSi faruli da vualirebulia:<br />
magaliTad, arc es „iliauni”,<br />
arc sajaro skolebi, realurad,<br />
aranaiari sajaro samarTlis subieqtebi<br />
da „fabliq” ar arian, sinamdvileSi,<br />
eseni arian saxelmwifos nawilebi,<br />
anu saxelmwifo axla saqarTveloSi<br />
aris uzarmazari, bevrad ufro<br />
didi, vidre SeiZleba qaRaldze<br />
waikiTxo. aqac igive SemTxvevaa, rogorc<br />
sabWoTa kavSirSi gvaswavles, _<br />
rasac xedav, is ar aris „sinamdvile-<br />
Si” da raRacaa imis ukan. ai, swored<br />
amis ukan aris is, rom yvela es organizacia,<br />
skolebi, universitetebi<br />
aris saxelmwifo organizaciebi da,<br />
Sesabamisad, faqtobrivad, es aris<br />
saxelmwfos uzarmazari gavlena<br />
mTel sazogadoebaze. sanam es ar<br />
morCeba da sanamde es dawesebulebebi,<br />
organizaciebi marTla sazogadoebrivebi<br />
da marTla sajaroebi ar<br />
gaxdebian, manamde araferi gveSveleba.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, es ar esmiT arc saxelisuflebo<br />
partias da arc opozicias,<br />
ratomRac, hgoniaT, rom esec<br />
iseve TavisiT mogvardeba, rogorc<br />
gvardeba sakiTxebi sagareo asparezze.<br />
albaT, amitomac acxadeben politikosebi,<br />
rogorc saxelisuflebo,<br />
aseve, opozicia, rom maTi politikuri<br />
moRvaweobis mTavari prioriteti<br />
sagareo urTierTobebis mogvarebaa.<br />
isini arc arafers agvareben<br />
da verc moagvareben. es yovelTvis<br />
gvardeba maTgan damoukideblad da<br />
axla, am 10-15 wlis ganmavlobaSi, es<br />
yvelaferi mogvardeba TviTon da<br />
pozitiuri iqneba Cveni ganviTarebisTvis.<br />
problema swored isaa, rom<br />
politikosebi arafers akeTeben qveynis<br />
SigniT. arada, axlaa idealuri<br />
Sansi qveynis decentralizaciisa, axla<br />
araa saSiSi, rom decentralizaciis<br />
gamo saqarTveloSi separatizmi<br />
daiwyeba da regionebi wavlen, imitom<br />
rom swored axla mTeli msoflio<br />
imaze iqneba orientirebuli, rom<br />
saqarTvelo ar daiSalos. axla gadasarevi<br />
dro aris decentralizaciisTvis,<br />
imisTvis, rom TviTmmarTvelobebs<br />
gadasce realuri uflebebi,<br />
rom TviTon daadginon gadasaxadebi,<br />
moiZion investiciebi da a. S.<br />
Zalian bevri ramis saSualebas iZleva<br />
drois es monakveTi da aravin amas<br />
ar akeTebs. esaa, realurad, problema<br />
da ara is, rom „vaime, rodis gaxdeba<br />
saqarTvelo evrokavSiris wevri”<br />
da „rodis dabrundeba afxazeTi da<br />
cxinvalis regioni”. dabrundeba afxazeTic<br />
da cxinvalis regionic, saqarTvelo<br />
evrokavSiris wevric gaxdeba<br />
da natos jarebic idgeba saqar-<br />
TveloSi.<br />
_ oRond es moxdeba iseve, rogorc<br />
moxda aSS-s biujetSi Canaw-<br />
eris gakeTeba Cveni teritoriuli<br />
mTlianobis mxardasaWerad, romel-<br />
ic am xelisuflebam iseve postfaq-<br />
tum gaigo, rogorc gavige me.<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, zustad mase<br />
moxdeba. zustad igive xdeboda 80-<br />
iani wlebis bolos da 90-ianebis<br />
dasawyisSi baltiis qveynebis mimarT.<br />
zustad aseve gamodiodnen kongresmenebi<br />
da mxars uWerdnen baltiis<br />
qveynebs, _ maSin globaluri politikis<br />
amocana iyo, rom baltiis zRvaSi<br />
SezRuduliyo, an saerTod gamqraliyo<br />
rusebis arseboba. gaakeTes<br />
kidec es SesaniSnavad! axla Savi<br />
zRvis jeria da amitom es yvela<br />
variantSi moxdeba, isev gamovlen<br />
TveSi erTxel amerikeli kongresmenebi,<br />
gamoacxadeben, rom saqarTvelo<br />
Tavisuflebis Rirsia da Cven mas<br />
mxari unda davuWiroT. es moxdeba,<br />
magram aq aranairi damsaxureba araa<br />
qarTveli politikosebis, qarTveli<br />
politikosebis damsaxureba aris is,<br />
rac xdeba qveyanaSi.<br />
_ qveyanaSi rac xdeba, esaa: ivaniS<br />
iSvils kidev erTi xe gadmouvar-<br />
da, amjerad, palma. es saerTod ra<br />
fenomenia, rodesac qveynis lideri<br />
xeebis glejiT da iqiT-aqeT Trevi-<br />
Taa dakavebuli?<br />
_ es misi problemaa da marTali<br />
giTxraT, naklebad mawuxebs. am procesSi<br />
is mawuxebs, rom axeebis gadatanis<br />
gamo moZraoba ferxdeba. iyo<br />
SemTxvevebi, rodesac saswrafo daxmarebis<br />
manqana Seferxda, romelsac<br />
avadmyofi gadahyavda, esaa problema,<br />
Torem ataros xeebi, visi ra saqmea.<br />
_ ki magram, ramdenad saxarbieloa<br />
is, rom qveyanas marTavs eqs-<br />
centrikuli piri, romelsac sjera,<br />
rom aswlovani xeebis ezoSi dargviT<br />
gaixangrZlivebs sicocxles?<br />
_ sxva mxridan SexedeT: Cvennair<br />
tradiciul sazogadoebaSi es Zalauflebis<br />
demonstrirebacaa da, mxolod<br />
da mxolod, misi Zalauflebis<br />
ganmtkicebas uwyobs xels. rasac<br />
ivaniSvili akeTebs, amomrCevlisTvis<br />
warmoudgeneli ramaa _ xes daatarebs<br />
zRvaze, xe Camoaqvs argentinidan:<br />
„au, naxe, ra magaria?” _ fiqrobs<br />
amomrCeveli. tradiciul sazogadoebaSi<br />
aseTi raRacebi muSaobs.<br />
ase rom, misi es eqscentrikuli axireba<br />
aseT sazogadoebaSi SegviZlia<br />
Zalauflebis ganmtkicebis aqciadac<br />
miviCnioT. cxadia, mTavari kiTxvaa,<br />
Tu ratom aris SesaZlebeli es<br />
saqarTveloSi? imitom, rom arsebuli<br />
politikuri subieqtebidan arc<br />
erTi cdilobs daelaparakos amomrCevels<br />
imis Sesaxeb, rac amomrCevels<br />
marTla awuxebs da yvela cdilobs<br />
ipovos advili, primitiuli<br />
gza sakuTari politikuri miznebis<br />
gansaxorcieleblad. aseTi gza, ubralod,<br />
ar arsebobs.<br />
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„reformatorebis” liderma<br />
irakli Rlontma karga xania, satelevizio debatebSi saTqmelis<br />
xistad da pirdapir TqmiT da amiT gamowveuli skandalebiT<br />
dagvamaxsovra Tavi. amis garda, es axalgazrda poli-<br />
tikosi sxvadasxva Temaze aqtiurobiT, maT Soris, „rusTavi<br />
2"-Tan dakavSirebuli bataliebis dros, kompaniis upirobo mx-<br />
ardaWeriTacaa cnobili. masTan saubari swored satelevizio<br />
debatebSi gamoxatuli poziciiT daviwyeT.<br />
irakli Rlonti:<br />
_ irakli, Tqveni sityvebia:<br />
„ivaniSvilma instituciebi SeWama”.<br />
ras gulisxmobdiT? amas miza-<br />
nmimarTulad akeTebs, Tu garem-<br />
ocvis mZevalia?<br />
_ diax, es erT-erT satelevizio<br />
arxze debatebis dros mas Semdeg<br />
vTqvi, rac xelisuflebis sateliti<br />
mimtkicebda, rom ivaniSvili<br />
arafer SuaSia politikasTan da<br />
saxlSi mSvidad Wams mawons. sruli<br />
absurdi da TvalTmaqcobaa imis<br />
mtkiceba, rom ivaniSvili gamijnulia<br />
politikisgan.<br />
me ar vici, mawons Wams Tu stafilos<br />
wveniT ivsebs es kaci kaloriebs,<br />
magram is danamdvilebiT<br />
vici, rom matyuaraa da ramdenadac<br />
acnobierebs misgan motyuebuli<br />
xalxisgan adekvatur reagirebas,<br />
cdilobs, yvela konstituciuri<br />
organos mimarT ganaxorcielos<br />
Sturmi da yvela institucia hyavdes<br />
monur morCilebaSi.<br />
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ar aris mteri. misi sityvebis<br />
citirebas movaxden: ,,me ar mgonia<br />
da ver vijereb, rom ruseTis<br />
strategia aris mezobeli qveynebis<br />
teritoriebis dapyroba da okupacia,<br />
me amis ar mjera”.<br />
diax, es aris biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
sityvebi da guli mwydeba, rom ufro<br />
metad ar davakvirdiT da droze<br />
ar SevafaseT igi, rogorc morigi<br />
rusuli safrTxe. rac Seexeba<br />
SekiTxvas, aris Tu ara igi misi garemocvis<br />
mZevali, ase ar vfiqrob.<br />
mas rom survili hqonoda, is<br />
dapirebebi praqtikulad Seesrulebina,<br />
rac qarTvel xalxs 2012<br />
wels dahpirda, Tavze ar dagvasvamda<br />
mafiozebs da diletantebs<br />
misi fondidan, romlebic Zal-Rones<br />
ar iSureben qarTuli saxelmwifos<br />
instituciuri ngrevisTvis.<br />
ramdenime dRis win vTqvi da aqac<br />
gavimeoreb: biZina ivaniSvili ar<br />
aris politikuri lideri, igi konformistia<br />
da rogorc ki igrZnobs,<br />
rom gaTiTokacebuli xalxi<br />
kvlav verTiandebiT, vaWrobas daiwyebs<br />
da darwmunebuli var, Tu mas<br />
xelSeuxeblobis garantias mivcemT,<br />
dauyovnebliv dagvibrunebs<br />
xalxs Zalauflebas da TviTonve<br />
daSlis da mospobs mis marTvaSi<br />
arsebul xelisuflebas...<br />
_ didi xmauri atyda oTar<br />
farcxalaZis pirovnebis irgvliv,<br />
vgulisxmob rogorc TordiasTan<br />
skandals, aseve miwis nakveTTan<br />
dakavSirebul procesebs, ramac is<br />
milioneri gaxada. riT axsniT<br />
farcxalaZis pirovnebis aseT gav-<br />
lenianobas?<br />
_ asea, am saqmis irgvliv rac vixileT,<br />
kidev erTi niSania imisa,<br />
rom saxelmwifod ver SevdeqiT:<br />
dausjelobis sindromia, SerCevi-<br />
Ti samarTalia da mafiozuri gadawyvetilebebis<br />
zegavlenis qveS<br />
varT.<br />
saerTod ar mainteresebs laSa<br />
Tordias pirovneba, misi profesiuli<br />
an politikuri saqmianoba, igi<br />
dRes saqarTvelos mTavari auditoria<br />
da roca mas yofili mTavari<br />
prokurori sajarod scems da<br />
igi dRemde dausjelia, es CemTvis<br />
udides Tavgasulobas niSnavs.<br />
dRes farcxalaZes arc aravin<br />
dasjis, igi kanonze maRla dgas,<br />
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imdenad mniSvnelovan funqcias<br />
asrulebs xelisuflebisTvis, rom<br />
ar miscemen pasuxisgebaSi da bolomde<br />
gamoiyeneben Savi saqmeebis<br />
gasakeTeblad, miT umetes, awi. am<br />
saqmis Semdeg ufro da ufro komprometirebulia<br />
da valdebulebebi<br />
gaezarda mafiozur-klanuri<br />
sistemis mimarT.<br />
am tipis adamianebi, samwuxarod,<br />
yvela im qveyanaSi arian, sadac<br />
demokratia fasaduria da samarTali<br />
da marTlmsajuleba krizisSia,<br />
gansakuTrebiT ki maT xSirad vxvdebiT<br />
saqarTveloSi. am tipis adamianebSi<br />
vgulisxmob zomaze metad<br />
Tavgasul personebs, romlebisTvisac<br />
ar arsebobs kanoni, arian<br />
Savi saqmis ubadlo Semsruleblebi<br />
da nebismier ukanono direqtivas<br />
upirobod asruleben.<br />
samagierod, am tipis adamianebi<br />
garkveuli drois manZilze yovel-<br />
Tvis sargebloben privilegiebiT,<br />
maT ukan dgas xelisufleba, Zalovani<br />
uwyebebi da ramdenadac tragedia<br />
ar unda iyos, korumpirebuli<br />
mosamarTleebi.<br />
aba, dafiqrdiT, rom ara sajaro<br />
piri, auditori Tordia, gavigebdiT<br />
ki am danaSaulis Cadenis<br />
faqts? ra Tqma unda, ver gavigebdiT,<br />
ise rogorc ar viciT, ramden<br />
danaSauls sCadian yoveldRiurad.<br />
_ gia xuxaSvilma, romelic iva-<br />
niSvilTan sakmaod daaxloebuli<br />
piria (Tu iyo) Tqva, rom farc-<br />
xalaZes es xelisufleba ivaniSvi-<br />
lis gareSe ver moereva. ras izams,<br />
Tqveni azriT, ivaniSvili, vis<br />
sasargeblod gadawyvets am davas?<br />
_ farcxalaZis saqme ukve aris<br />
am xelisuflebis erT-erTi didi<br />
„Savi laqa” da am laqis Camorecxva<br />
gamoricxulia. am saqmem Cvens sazogadoebas<br />
Tvali auxila, radgan<br />
am Tavxeduri da briyvuli qmedebebiT<br />
gvaCvena, visTan gvaqvs saqme<br />
xalxs.<br />
farcxalaZe, es aris saxe, anarekli<br />
am xelisuflebis mTeli politikis,<br />
misi sazogadoebisadmi<br />
damokidebulebis. gia xuxaSvili<br />
gonieri kacia, is amas tyuilad ar<br />
ambobs, radgan acnobierebs am personis<br />
mimarT arsebul interess<br />
igive ivaniSvilis mxridan da zustad<br />
icis, rom, samwuxarod, aseTi<br />
tipis adamianebze dgas Cveni xelisufleba<br />
da misi baton-patroni.<br />
Cvens xelisuflebas sWirdeba<br />
Savi saqmis Semsrulebeli, komprometirebuli<br />
personebi, romlebic<br />
piradi interesebis iqiT ver xedaven<br />
qveynis interesebs, maTTvis sul<br />
erTia ziani da zarali, romelsac<br />
Cvens xalxsa da qveyanas ayeneben,<br />
maTTvis mTavaria fuli, Zalaufleba<br />
da xelSeuxebloba.<br />
ise, mkiTxvels minda vTxovo,<br />
erTi wuTiT mainc dafiqrdiT,<br />
mTavari auditori Tqven rom gecemaT,<br />
axla sad iqnebodiT?..<br />
_ saerTod, ramdeni farcx-<br />
alaZea mosarevi da mosaSorebeli,<br />
vinmem daiTvala?<br />
_ roca „qarTuli ocneba” xelisuflebaSi<br />
modioda, maSin vacx-<br />
irakli Rlonti:<br />
`ivaniSvili<br />
garemocvis<br />
ki ara,<br />
kremlis<br />
mZevalia!..~<br />
`Cvenda samwuxarod, bevri uRirsi da<br />
uTavmoyvareo opozicioneria. am etapze mets<br />
ver getyviT, magram mova dro, roca<br />
sazogadoeba yvelafers gaigebs, vin, rodis da<br />
visTan aTanxmebda dRis wesrigs, roca<br />
qarTveli xalxi maTgan moqmedebebs moiTxovda.<br />
mova es dro da me erT-erTi iniciatori da<br />
avtori viqnebi lustraciisa, romelic mTel<br />
saqarTvelos gaacnobs politikaSi myof<br />
TviTmarqvia personebs~<br />
adebdi, rom Cven miviRebdiT korumpirebul-klanur<br />
sistemebs,<br />
romlis demontaJi Semdeg garTuldeboda.<br />
asec moxda, Cven mivi-<br />
ReT araformaluri da mafiozuri<br />
mmarTveloba da, Sesabamisad, am<br />
tipis „menejmentSi” yovelTvis<br />
iarsebebs kanongareSe moqmedi personebi,<br />
romlebic fiqroben, rom<br />
saxelmwifo Tavad arian da kanoni<br />
rom sxva adamianebisTvis aris Seqmnili.<br />
vinc sakuTar Tavs kanonze maRla<br />
ayenebs, unda moSordes, maTi<br />
adgili cixeSia. am xalxis moSoreba<br />
qarTulma sazogadoebam unda<br />
daviwyoT #1 moqalaqed wodebuli,<br />
mafiozuri „kompaniis” direqtoriT.<br />
Tqven warmoidgineT, ramxela<br />
safrTxea, roca mafiozebis xelSia<br />
yvela konstituciuri organo, specsamsaxurebi,<br />
parlamenti, mTavroba<br />
da arafers aRar vambob korumpirebul<br />
mosamarTleebze, romlebic<br />
dasjisa da samosamarTleo<br />
saqmianobis CamoSorebis nacvlad<br />
waaxalises da mTel sasamarTlo<br />
korpusze misces zegavlenis ganxorcielebis<br />
ufleba.<br />
_ strategia, romelic ivaniSvilma<br />
airCia _ arsad Cans, komentars<br />
ar akeTebs, TiTqos proces-<br />
ebs CamoSorda _ ra aris es?<br />
_ visTvis strategiaa da vis-<br />
Tvis Cveulebrivi upasuxismgebloba<br />
sakuTari xalxis mimarT. me ar<br />
vfiqrob, rom biZina ivaniSvili<br />
strategia, ubralod, igi kargad<br />
flobs kanongareSe marTvis stils<br />
da am gziT moqmedebs.<br />
ar vici, vin moatyua, an rogor<br />
ityuebs Tavs, magram saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis umravlesoba, anu is<br />
adamianebi, romlebic man ver daaxarba<br />
da ver iyida, yvela vacnobierebT,<br />
rom saxlidan marTavs xelisuflebas,<br />
anu yvela institucias<br />
da yvela maRalCinosani misi<br />
marionetia.<br />
Tu is fiqrobs, rom garkveuli<br />
drois Semdeg gamoCndeba Tavisi<br />
„sibrZnismfrqveveli” leqsikoniT<br />
da isev SeZlebs Cveni xalxis gabi-<br />
Turebas, minda vuTxra, rom Zalian<br />
cdeba, _ mas mouwevs pasuxis gacema<br />
yvela Seusrulebel dapirebaze,<br />
yvela im ukanonobaze, Tavgasulobasa<br />
da uZraobaze, romelic misi<br />
xelisuflebis pirobebSi Cveni sazogadoebisa<br />
da ojaxebis problemad<br />
iqca.<br />
Tqven ambobT, arsad Canso, me<br />
minda, iqiT gkiTxoT: axla raSi<br />
sWirdeba mas sadme gamoCena? yvela<br />
maRalCinosnis gancxadebisa da<br />
poziciis ukan dgas da erTi sityvis<br />
Tavisuflad gamoxatvis ufleba<br />
da gambedaobac ar aqvs arc<br />
erT Cinovniks, vsaubrob deputatebze<br />
da ministrebze. ase rom,<br />
Cans, vxedavT, gvesmis da SevcvliT<br />
kidec.<br />
_ mixvda, rom mis laparaks<br />
dumili sjobs, Tu ra moxda?..<br />
_ mirCevnia, am kiTxvas iumoristulad<br />
vupasuxo: ramdenjerac<br />
ar movismine misi gamosvla, imdenjer<br />
sakuTar Tavze momeria brazi,<br />
rom am kacis opoziciaSi varT amdeni<br />
welia da igi mainc komfortis<br />
zonaSia.<br />
misi saubari, misi xedvebi kidev<br />
ufro marwmunebs farTod gavrcelebul<br />
skandalur ambavs, rom<br />
man biznesis Seneba da kapitalis<br />
dagroveba ara sakuTari unarebiT,<br />
aramed sxva Zalebis mxardaWeriT<br />
SeZlo.<br />
did pativs vcem ganaTlebas,<br />
codnas da vafaseb profesionalizms,<br />
am kacSi ver davinaxe codna<br />
da unarebi, me am kacSi vxedav did<br />
safrTxes Cveni saxelmwifosTvis.<br />
_ sakonstitucio cvlilebeb-<br />
is ganxilvaze ras gvetyviT?<br />
_ ukacravad, sadme naxeT ganxilva?<br />
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reJimSi gvaqvs aqtivobebi da<br />
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ganxilva da msjeloba, Cven mier<br />
organizebul Sexvedrebs unda daeswros<br />
Cvens TanamoqalaqeebTan,<br />
diplomatiur korpusTan da arasamTavrobo<br />
seqtorTan.<br />
ganxilvad Sevafasebdi am Tavyrilobebs,<br />
Tu iq me vnaxavdi Tavisufal<br />
moqalaqeebs, romlebic partiul<br />
interesebsa da direqtivebze<br />
win ayeneben qveynis awmyosa da<br />
momavals.<br />
romel ganxilvazea saubari, mosaxleobis<br />
umravlesoba ambobs,<br />
rom unda hqondeT prezidentis<br />
arCevis ufleba da amas ar iTvaliswinebs<br />
xelisufleba; romel msjelobazea<br />
saubari, roca blokisa<br />
da koaliciis saxiT xelisufleba-<br />
Si mosuli partia axla acxadebs,<br />
rom blokis gareSe ufro ganvi-<br />
Tardeba partiebi da amitom krZalavs<br />
amis SesaZleblobas.<br />
es arc ganxilvaa da arc msjeloba,<br />
es aris Zaladoba konstituciaze,<br />
Zaladoba sakuTar xalxze<br />
da amis ukan dgas viwropartiul<br />
interesebs amofarebuli SeSinebuli<br />
xelisufleba, romelic acnobierebs,<br />
rom avtoritetdakarguli<br />
politikuri warmonaqmnia da<br />
Tu ara am tipis antidemokratiuli<br />
nabijebi, is male daasrulebs<br />
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mxars davuWerdi, magram maT am<br />
mimarTulebiT araferi gaukeTebiaT<br />
da gvTavazoben redaqcias, romelic<br />
pirdapir metyvelebs, rom<br />
moaxdinon xelisuflebis uzurpacia,<br />
miitacon Zalaufleba da er-<br />
TaderTi konstituciuri organo,<br />
romelic ver daimorCiles, saubari<br />
maqvs prezidentis institutze,<br />
rom igi konstituciuri cvlilebis<br />
gziT xelSi Caigdon.<br />
_ radgan am Temas SevexeT, mainteresebs,<br />
ras fiqrobT iniciativaze,<br />
rom prezidenti 300-ma xmo-<br />
sanma airCios?<br />
_ romel 300 xmosanze vsaubrobT,<br />
150 xmosani ar gvizis parlamentSi?<br />
150 SeuzRudavi Zalauflebis<br />
mqone xmosani, romelic<br />
erT xmaSi metyvelebs da arc erT<br />
maTgans ar aqvs imxela gambedaoba,<br />
rom kompromisze ar wavides da<br />
xalxis mxares darCes.<br />
im 300 xmosans gvTavazobs xelisufleba,<br />
romelmac mSobliuri<br />
qalaqis interesebi ver daicva da<br />
uapelaciod Seasrula centraluri<br />
xelisuflebis direqtiva, diax,<br />
am adamianebs moiazrebs „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” xval 300 xmosanSi, vinc<br />
unda dagviniSnos prezidenti.<br />
rogor ggoniaT, am 300 xmosnis<br />
xma vis interesebs moemsaxureba?<br />
ra Tqma unda, tradiciulad mmarTveli<br />
Zalis wisqvilze daasxams<br />
wyals. es dauSvebelia! Cven kargad<br />
viciT, rogor imarTebian warmomadgenlebi,<br />
rogor axdens masze<br />
politizebuli Zalovani uwyebebi<br />
zegavlenas, amitom prezidenti unda<br />
avirCioT Cven, qarTvelma xalxma<br />
mgosnebisa da xmosnebis gareSe<br />
da es asec moxdeba, radgan me zedmiwevniT<br />
kargad vici, sazogadoebaSi<br />
ra ganwyobac aris.<br />
_ irakli, Tqven da Tqveni partia<br />
araerTxel gixila sazogadoebam<br />
sasamarTlo xelisufleb-<br />
is mwvave kritikis mxared, ras<br />
fiqr<br />
qrobT sasamarTlo sistemaze?<br />
migaCniaT, rom reformebi uSede-<br />
goa da esec mizanmimarTuli qmed-<br />
ebaa Cveni xelisuflebis mxridan?<br />
_ diax, asea, CemTvis, rogorc<br />
profesiiT iuristisTvis, mtkivneulia<br />
sasamarTlos mwvave kritika,<br />
magram mocemul situaciaSi<br />
valdebulebad maqvs, miCneuli<br />
viyo erT-erT atqiur kritikosad<br />
da mxileblad im Tavgasulobisa,<br />
romelic Cveni marTlmsajulebis<br />
sistemis savizito baraTia.<br />
saubroben, rom reformebi gatarda<br />
sasamarTlos mimarTulebiT,<br />
rasac ar viziareb: Tu reformis<br />
Sedegad ar miviReT dargis,<br />
institutis saqmianobis gajansaReba,<br />
korufciuli meqanizmebis minimizeba,<br />
maSin mas me ver vuwodeb<br />
reformagavlil institucias. metic:<br />
sasamarTlo araTu reformagavlili,<br />
aramed xelidan xelSi<br />
gadasuli instituciaa, romelic<br />
ise, rogorc sxva danarCeni konstituciuri<br />
organoebi, xelisuflebis<br />
monur morCilebaSi imyofebian.<br />
saerTod, gamaRizianebelia iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi sabWos bolodroindeli<br />
ritorika, rom davicvaT<br />
mosamarTleTa pativi da Rirseba<br />
da am mimarTulebiT gegmaven<br />
parlamentSi sakanonmdeblo<br />
cvlilebis ganxorcielebas.<br />
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me minda, am mafiozur sistemad<br />
qceul sabWos vuTxra, rom maTze<br />
asjer metad vacnobierebT, rom<br />
mosamarTlis Rirsebis dacva da<br />
pativiscema mniSvnelovania, magram<br />
Cven maTgan gansxvavebiT adamianebs,<br />
romlebic kanongareSe, korufciuli<br />
sqemis monawileebi arian,<br />
ver vuwodebT mosamarTles da arc<br />
pativs vcemT mis e. w. Rirsebas.<br />
mosamarTlem Tavisi saqmianobiT<br />
unda moipovos sazogadoebis<br />
pativiscema, roca isini xelisuflebis<br />
mzakvrul interesebs emsaxurebian,<br />
maT Cven ar mivcemT<br />
uflebas, komfortis zonaSi darCnen,<br />
Tumca bevri uRirsi da „qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebisgan” ganzrax waxalisebuli<br />
korumpirebuli mosamarTlis<br />
gverdiT vxedavT bevr<br />
Rirseul mosamarTles da imedi<br />
maqvs, isini sworad xedaven Cvens<br />
brZolas da ideurad mainc varT<br />
partniorebi.<br />
erTaderTi kadri, vinc yvelaze<br />
srulyofilad da profesionalurad<br />
waradgina saqmeTa gadanawilebis<br />
eleqtronuli programa, es<br />
iyo Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />
yofili Tavmjdomare, mamuka<br />
axvlediani, romelic cdilobda,<br />
amoqmedebuliyo eleqtronulad<br />
gadanawilebis programa da igi<br />
saerTod CamoaSores am sferos.<br />
am programis amoqmedeba niSnavda<br />
instrumentis funqcionirebas,<br />
romelic xelisuflebas yvelanair<br />
berkets waarTmevda, rom winaswar<br />
komprometirebul mosamarTleebs<br />
dasweroda saqmeebi gansaxilvelad,<br />
Sesabamisad, minimumamde davidoda<br />
politizebuli gadawyvetilebebis<br />
riski. albaT, advilad<br />
xvdebiT, rom es ganzrax ar gaake-<br />
Tes.<br />
rom ara civilizebuli samyaros<br />
mxardaWera da strasburgis<br />
mosamarTlis goniereba, dRes Cven<br />
ar gveqneboda telekompania „rus-<br />
Tavi 2", rogorc xelisuflebisgan<br />
ukontrolo opoziciuri telekompania.<br />
mas urTmeliZe, nazRaiZe da<br />
sxva korumpirebuli mosamarTleebi<br />
erTi CaquCis dartymiT gaanadgurebdnen.<br />
sasamarTlo sistema moiTxovs<br />
reformebs da upirvel yovlisa<br />
korufciisa da kanongareSe saqmianobis<br />
riskebis minimizebas. ai, amis<br />
Semdeg davicavT mosamarTleTa<br />
Rirsebas da pativs, manamde ki maT<br />
mosvenebas ar miscems Cveni sazogadoeba.<br />
biZina ivaniSvils da mis xelisuflebas<br />
ar sWirdeba Tavisufali<br />
da reformirebuli sasamarTlo,<br />
maT sWordebaT ymadqceuli<br />
mosamarTleebi, romlebsac nebismier<br />
kanongareSe davalebas Seasrulebineben,<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi, ar<br />
mesmis, rogor moxda is, rom „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” droindeli<br />
prokurorebi dRes mogvevlinen<br />
mosamarTlis rangSi, igive rusTavis,<br />
goris, mcxeTisa da baTumis<br />
sasamarTlos Tavmjdomareebad<br />
ganwesebuli arian yofili prokurorebi<br />
da adamianebi, romlebic<br />
prokuraturas saCivriT mimar-<br />
Taven wina xelisuflebis dros am<br />
adamianebis mier Cadenili danaSaulis<br />
Sesaswavlad. e. i. am mosamarTleebma<br />
unda ganixilon?<br />
sakmarisia manana kobaxiZis sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi yofnis faqti<br />
saimisod, rom advilad davinaxoT<br />
xelisuflebis damokidebuleba am<br />
instituciis mimarT.<br />
SegaxsenebT: es adamiani mosamarTled<br />
gamwesebamde erTi wliT<br />
adre biZina ivaniSvils ilia Wav-<br />
WavaZes adarebda.<br />
_ kargi, TviTmmarTvelobaze<br />
`biZina ivaniSvili ar aris politikuri lideri, igi konformistia da<br />
rogorc ki igrZnobs, rom gaTiTokacebuli xalxi kvlav verTiandebiT,<br />
vaWrobas daiwyebs da darwmunebuli var, Tu mas xelSeuxeblobis garantias<br />
mivcemT, dauyovnebliv dagvibrunebs xalxs Zalauflebas da TviTonve<br />
daSlis da mospobs mis marTvaSi arsebul xelisuflebas...~<br />
gadavideT... TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
reforma daerqva im process, rac<br />
axla mimdinareobs, adgilobrivi<br />
sakrebuloebis mier TviTm-<br />
marTveli qalaqis statusis<br />
gauqmebas. amaze ras ityviT?<br />
_ es ar aris reforma, es aris<br />
adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
daknineba da Zaladoba decentralizaciis<br />
umniSvnelovanes principze.<br />
qalaqis statusis gauqmeba<br />
da es absurduli gadawyvetileba<br />
centralur xelisuflebaSi isev im<br />
mizezis gamo miiRes, rom uavtoriteto<br />
da gakotrebuli xelisufleba<br />
acnobierebs Zalauflebis<br />
dakargvis realur safrTxes da<br />
cdilobs, yvela organo kontrolqveS<br />
hyavdes.<br />
xelisuflebas eSinia, rom opozicia<br />
mougebs gamgeblis, an meris<br />
arCevnebs da Semdeg gauWirdebaT<br />
balansis dacva. swored amitom<br />
gadawyvites am e. w. reformis<br />
amoqmedeba. isini cruoben, roca<br />
acxadeben, rom biujetis fulis<br />
dazogvis mizniT gadawyvites es<br />
cvlilebebi, am dros mkiTxvels<br />
minda gansjisTvis mivmarTo: rodesme<br />
ginaxavT xelisuflebisgan<br />
biujetis dazogvis mcdeloba?<br />
metic, Cven yoveldRiurad vxedavT<br />
Tavgasulobas da biujetis<br />
fulis aramiznobriv xarjvas jipebSi,<br />
premia-danamatebSi, usagno<br />
mivlinebebSi da rogor fiqrobs<br />
xelisufleba, am cru arguments<br />
qarTveli xalxi miiRebs da kvers<br />
daukravs? mgoni, ara, Cven Tavis<br />
saxels davarqmevT yvelafers.<br />
_ Tqveni azriT, ramdenad mom-<br />
wifebulia xalxi xelisuflebis<br />
cvlilebisTvis?<br />
_ es Tavad xalxis gadasawyvetia<br />
da me ver mivcem Tavs uflebas,<br />
amaze komentari gavakeTo, Tumca<br />
mgonia, rom Tavad xelisuflebaa<br />
Zirgamompali da sasicocxlod<br />
mniSvnelovania misi cvlileba.<br />
xelisuflebam ver Seasrula mis<br />
mier gacemuli dapirebebis 20%-ic<br />
ki. samagierod, sazogadoebam ixila<br />
mafiozuri klanebis Tavxedoba,<br />
kriminalis mateba, biznesis likvidacia,<br />
jipebsa da xalxis fulze<br />
daxarbebuli fuqsavati Cinovnikebis<br />
kekluci, instituciuri ngre-<br />
va da a. S.<br />
saboloo jamSi, mainc momiwia<br />
Sefasebis gakeTeba: piradad me iSviaTad<br />
mxvdeba sadme Tanamoqalaqe,<br />
romelic mxars uWers „qar-<br />
Tul ocnebas”, maT Soris, sajaro<br />
samsaxurSi dasaqmebuli adamianebi,<br />
romlebic yvelaze ukeT acnobiereben<br />
safrTxeebs, radgan Tavad<br />
uwevT diletanti da nepotizmiT<br />
daniSnuli xelmZRvanelebis fuqsavatobis<br />
yureba.<br />
vfiqrob, rom xalxic mzad aris<br />
xelisuflebis cvlilebisTvis,<br />
xalxma unda davibrunoT Zalaufleba<br />
da igi gadavceT yvelaze<br />
kompetenturebs, qarTuli saxelmwifos<br />
winaSe arsebuli gamowvevebis<br />
sapasuxod.<br />
_ ra moxdeba adgilobriv<br />
arCevnebze?<br />
_ rac moxda saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis dros, _ vaWroba, aRebmicemoba,<br />
arCevnebi Caatara ceskom<br />
da sus-ma erToblivad.<br />
xandaxan vfiqrob, rom adgilobriv<br />
arCevnebamdec ver miva xelisufleba,<br />
ar minda, movlenebs<br />
davaswro, magram emigraciis imedad<br />
darCenili gaRaribebuli xalxi<br />
xval an zeg ra gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiRebs, amaze pasuxis gacema<br />
axla rTulia. ar gamovricxav, rom<br />
xalxi quCaSi gamova. es iqneba yvelaze<br />
swori da Rirseuli saqcieli.<br />
_ ras apirebT? maxsovs, wer-<br />
diT, Tu resursi moviZie,<br />
kardakar siaruls vapireb da<br />
xalxTan Sexvedrebso...<br />
_ media politizebulia da Cven,<br />
„reformatorebs”, ver migvaqvs Cveni<br />
saTqmeli farTo sazogadoebamde,<br />
axla mTeli mondomebiT vcdilobT<br />
gamovnaxoT finansuri saxsrebi,<br />
rom axali moZraobis formireba<br />
daviwyoT, romelic televiziis<br />
eTerebidan ki ara, pirispir<br />
daelaparakeba xalxs.<br />
dRes media da finansebi, orive<br />
mniSvnelovani berketi gadanawilebulia,<br />
rTulia am resursis moZieba,<br />
magram advilia xmamaRla saubari,<br />
roca marTali xar da darwmunebuli<br />
var, xval-zeg me da Cemi TanamebrZolebi<br />
ufro axlos mivalT<br />
xalxTan da maTTan erTad SevqmniT<br />
process, romelic male daasrulebs<br />
am uZraobas.<br />
vapireb qalaq-qalaq, Robe-yore<br />
siaruls da sakuTar xalxTan uSualo<br />
komunikacias, am gzaze Cven<br />
gvWirdeba mxardaWera. imedi maqvs,<br />
SevZlebT am resursis gamonaxvas.<br />
_ opoziciuri partiebis er-<br />
Toblivi gancxadebebi gaxSirda.<br />
adre iyo arCevnebis gayalbebaze<br />
2016 wels, axla sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebsa da TviTmmarTvelo-<br />
bis reformaze. ra aris saWiro<br />
imisTvis, rom opoziciuri poli-<br />
tikuri speqtri gaerTiandes?<br />
_ minda, sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
giTxraT, rom yvelaze metad,<br />
risac ivaniSvilsa da mis xelisuflebas<br />
eSinia, es aris opoziciuri<br />
Zalebis gaerTianeba, zogadad, ga-<br />
TiTokacebuli xalxis erTianoba.<br />
yvelafers akeTeben, maT Soris,<br />
ar iSureben finansuri da sxva berketebis<br />
gamonaxvas saimisod, rom<br />
opoziciurma partiebma ar gaake-<br />
Ton aliansi maT winaaRmdeg. Cvenda<br />
samwuxarod, bevri uRirsi da<br />
uTavmoyvareo opozicioneria.<br />
am etapze mets ver getyviT, magram<br />
mova dro, roca sazogadoeba<br />
yvelafers gaigebs, vin, rodis da<br />
visTan aTanxmebda dRis wesrigs,<br />
roca qarTveli xalxi maTgan moqmedebebs<br />
moiTxovda. mova es dro<br />
da me erT-erTi iniciatori da avtori<br />
viqnebi lustraciisa, romelic<br />
mTel saqarTvelos gaacnobs<br />
politikaSi myof TviTmarqvia personebs.<br />
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daviT narmanias<br />
Tbilisis meris komfortis<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
zona aqamde rom ar gamogvikvle-<br />
via, saocaria, Tumca axla swored<br />
is gaxda Cveni interesis obieqti da swored amitom dRes<br />
daviT narmanias komfortis zonaze mogiyvebiT.<br />
sanam uSualod mis sacxovrebelze<br />
mogiTxrobdeT, tradiciulad,<br />
Cveni meris qonebriv deklaraciaze<br />
getyviT oriod sityvas,<br />
romelic 2016 wlis 27 ivniss<br />
aqvs Sevsebuli.<br />
38 wlis ekonomists meuRle<br />
da sami Svili hyavs, flobs qar-<br />
Tul, inglisur, germanul da<br />
rusul enebs;<br />
mis saxelze ori uZravi qonebaa:<br />
erTi maTgani warmoadgens<br />
5000.00 kv.m. miwis nakveTs zugdidSi,<br />
sofel kokSi da meore<br />
97.00 kv.m. farTobis binas TbilisSi,<br />
berbuTis quCaze.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom arc mis da<br />
arc ojaxis sxva wevrebis saxelze<br />
moZravi qoneba araa dafiqsirebuli<br />
da maT sakuTrebaSi ar<br />
aris arc fasiani qaRaldebi.<br />
rac Seexeba sxvadasxva bankSi<br />
arsebul angariSs an Senatans,<br />
romlis gankargvis uflebac aqvs<br />
Tavad mas, an ojaxis wevrs, sia<br />
Semdegnairad gamoiyureba:<br />
18<br />
mas „Ti-bi-si bankis” saxelfaso<br />
angariSze, deklaraciis<br />
Sevsebis momentSi, hqonda 4308.00<br />
lari krediti(+), amave bankSi mimdinare<br />
balansze 3.20 evro; isev<br />
„Ti-bi-si bankis” sakredito angariSze<br />
3672.22 lari debeti(-),<br />
„Ti-bi-si bankis” saxelfaso<br />
361.88 aSS dolari krediti(+),<br />
kvlav narmanias saxelzea „respublika<br />
bankSi” saxelfaso angariSi,<br />
sadac 1612.96 laria kreditad(+),<br />
„prokredit bankSic” saxelfaso<br />
baraTze 39.04 evro<br />
krediti(+) ericxeba, meuRlis,<br />
TinaTin TinikaSvilis saxelzea<br />
„Ti-bi-si bankis” saxelfaso<br />
800.00 laris odenobiT (krediti(+);<br />
dabolos, meris saxelzea<br />
„Ti-bi-si bankSi” mimdinare<br />
14721.19 lari krediti(+). ojaxis<br />
arc erT wevrs ar moepoveba<br />
aranairi angariSi „bazis banksa”<br />
da „qarTu bankSi”.<br />
rac Seexeba daviT narmanias an<br />
misi ojaxis wevrebis sakuTreba-<br />
Si arsebul naRd fuls, romlis<br />
odenobac aRemateba 4000 lars,<br />
deklaraciis Sevsebis momentSi<br />
mis sakuTrebaSi iyo 900.00 aSS<br />
dolari da 250.00 evro, rac jam-<br />
Si, namdvilad ar aWarbebs 4000<br />
lars, Tumca, ratomRac, mainc<br />
aris es monacemebi am konkretul<br />
grafaSi dafiqsirebuli.<br />
narmania flobs firmas „Sps<br />
narmania, riserC end konsaltingi”,<br />
romlis misamarTic emTxveva<br />
Tavad daviT narmanias sacxovrebel<br />
misamarTs. kompania 2011<br />
wlis 28 oqtombers daregistrirda<br />
da misi moqmedebis vada amouwuravia,<br />
uvadoa. Tumca firmas<br />
jer Semosavali ar moutania.<br />
aqve Tbilisis mers ivane javaxiSvilis<br />
saxelobis Tbilisis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetSi profesorad<br />
muSaobisas 2015 wels<br />
10800.00 lari miuRia, merobisas<br />
ki amave vadebSi 19080.00 lari,<br />
qarTul-amerikul universitet-<br />
Si leqtorad muSaobisas ki<br />
2640.00 lari.<br />
daviT narmanias „Ti-bi-si<br />
bankidan” 4000.00 laris odenobis<br />
sesxi auRia, romelsac vada 26/<br />
10/2016-Si ewureboda da saidanac<br />
gasavali 3672.22 lari iyo.<br />
aseve, mas ufiqsirdeba avtomanqanis<br />
gayidva, saidanac Semosavali<br />
8500.00 aSS dolari iyo;<br />
xolo deklaraciis Sevsebisas<br />
sasoflo-sameurneo produqciis<br />
realizaciiT miRebuli Semosavali<br />
12000.00 lars utoldeba.<br />
es is monacemebia, rac gasuli<br />
wlis ivnisSi, dokumentis Sevsebisas<br />
fiqsirdeboda, Tumca vin<br />
icis, ramdeni ram Seicvala erT<br />
weliwadSi?<br />
deklaraciis gacnobis Semdeg<br />
swored berbuTis quCisken aviRe<br />
gezi. miuxedavad imisa, rom es<br />
quCa, garkveuli mizezebis gamo,<br />
rTulad iZebneba, mainc maxsovda,<br />
rom igi sportis sasaxlis ukan,<br />
axalaSenebuli korpusebis wyebasa<br />
da maRaziebis erTobliobas<br />
warmoadgenda. swored amitom am<br />
mimarTulebiT gavemarTe.<br />
Cemi Tbilisis meris sacxovrebelTan<br />
stumrobis dro im<br />
periods daemTxva, roca Tbilis-<br />
Si wvimis niaRvari ar wydeboda<br />
da xalxi noesa da mis kidobans<br />
uxmobda dasaxmareblad, me ki,<br />
Tavis mxriv, 13 ivnisi gamaxsenda<br />
da im dros daSvebuli Secdomebi...<br />
Tan gzas vignebdi da imisTvisac<br />
vemzadebodi, rom Cveni<br />
meris sacxovrebelSi dacvis samsaxuri<br />
iqneboda „gamagrebuli”,<br />
romelic martivad ar „gamatarebda”.<br />
saburTaloze, sportis sasaxlis<br />
ukana teritoriaze axali<br />
korpusebis mSenebloba mimdinareobs,<br />
swored aq, erT maRal, 14-<br />
sarTulian da mwvane ferSi gadawyvetil<br />
korpuss naxavT, romelic<br />
xsenebuli sasaxlis ukan da<br />
odnav marcxniv mdebareobs. berbuTic<br />
patara quCaa im mraval<br />
patara da axal quCaTagan, romelic<br />
am teritoriaze SegxvdebaT.<br />
rogorc ukve aRvniSne, wvimian<br />
amindSi Cemi SliapiT mivadeqi<br />
berbuTis quCaze #8 sacxovrebel<br />
korpuss, romlis gverdiTac<br />
erT-erT msxvil maRaziaTa qselis<br />
filiali iyo da jer swored<br />
iq varCie Sesvla. mindoda, iq momuSave<br />
gogonebisTvis mekiTxa,<br />
namdvilad aq cxovrobda Cveni meri<br />
da Camodioda Tu ara igi Tavad<br />
sayidlebze? mokled, Sevedi<br />
am maRaziaSi da CemTvis sayvareli<br />
banani viyide, Tan cnobismoyvareobasac<br />
davikmayofilebdi:<br />
_ gamarjoba, mainteresebs, am<br />
korpusSi daviT narmania marT-<br />
la cxovrobs?<br />
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_ ki, ratom, Tvali mohkari? _<br />
mkiTxa molarem, sasiamovno garegnobis<br />
gogonam.<br />
_ ara, ar minaxavs, gamigia,<br />
rom aq cxovrobs.<br />
_ ki, namdvilad cxovrobs.<br />
_ TqvenTan Camodis xolme?<br />
rogoria urTierTobaSi?<br />
_ TviTon iSviaTad, meuRle<br />
dadis xolme.<br />
_ gasagebia.<br />
_ Tu ramis kiTxva gindaT, Tavis<br />
dacvas hkiTxeT da is getyviT,<br />
_ CaerTo saubarSi molare<br />
gogonas ukan mdgari gogonac.<br />
_ aucileblad-meTqi, _ da<br />
wamovedi.<br />
axla zustad im korpusis win<br />
videqi, romelSic dedaqalaqis<br />
meri cxovrobs da sanam Sevidodi,<br />
vnaxe, rogor gamoabruna dacvam<br />
viRac biWi, romelmac karis<br />
kodi ar icoda da sadarbazoSi<br />
Sesvlas lamobda.<br />
ramdenime wuTi gavida, korpuss<br />
TiTqmis yvela mxridan gadavuRe<br />
foto da axla gadavwyvite,<br />
SigniT Sevsuliyavi. darwmunebuli<br />
viyavi, rom dacvas martivad<br />
ver gadavurCebodi. mokled,<br />
karTan mivedi da hoi, saocrebav,<br />
Ria damxvda (albaT, gaxsovT, rom<br />
araerTxel aRminiSnavs Cems iRbalsa<br />
da gamarTlebaze). martivad<br />
Cavuare dacvis obieqts da<br />
zemo sarTulze avedi.<br />
pirveli mezoblis karTan<br />
davreke, kari axalgazrda mamakacma<br />
gamiRo sandomiani saxiT.<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var<br />
„qronika+”-dan, oriode kiTxva<br />
maqvs, mainteresebs, daviT nar-<br />
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_ mamakacma „ravicis” niSnad<br />
Tavi gaaqnia da mxrebi aiCeCa.<br />
_ ramdenad salmiania?<br />
_ salmiani aris, didi xania,<br />
vicnob.<br />
_ anu icnobT da uSualoa?<br />
_ cnobiT ki, magram iSviaTad<br />
Tu Semxvdeba, ver vxedav xolme.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT-meTqi, _<br />
da sxva karisken gadavinacvle.<br />
am sarTulze kari aravin<br />
gamiRo da axla amave sarTulze<br />
mdebare bina #6-s mivadeqi, sadac<br />
Cveni interesis obieqti cxovrobs<br />
ojaxTan erTad.<br />
kari muqi wiTeli-Sindisferi<br />
iyo, arafriT sxvebisgan gamor-<br />
Ceuli da gareT, karTan gadasayrelad<br />
gamzadebuli nagvis<br />
parkebi elaga. kars ramdenime<br />
foto gadavuRe da axla maRali<br />
sarTulisken gavemarTe, rom kvlav<br />
gamomekiTxa mezoblebi. ukve<br />
kibeze avdiodi, roca dacvis<br />
TanamSromelma damiZaxa da TandaTanobiT<br />
momiaxlovda:<br />
_ gogoni, aq ras akeTebT?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var da samsax-<br />
urebriv movaleobas vasruleb.<br />
_ erTi wuTiT, CamobrZandiT<br />
qveviT.<br />
_ ratom? _ vkiTxe, _ Cems<br />
saqmes vakeTeb.<br />
_ Tqveni piradobis mowmoba<br />
gvWirdeba.<br />
_ ki batono, gagatanT, _<br />
vuTxari, CanTidan mowmoba amoviRe<br />
da gavuwode.<br />
_ ara, Tqvenc unda CamobrZandeT.<br />
_ ver vxvdebi, ratom unda<br />
Camovide, roca Jurnalisti var<br />
da samsaxurebriv movaleobas<br />
vasruleb?<br />
_ dacvis samsaxuridan var,<br />
obieqts vicav da mec movaleobas<br />
vasruleb, _ mipasuxa axalgazrda<br />
biWma.<br />
_ kargi, Camoval, piradobis<br />
mowmobas CagabarebT da gavagr-<br />
Zeleb saqmianobas-meTqi, _ vuTxari.<br />
qveviT CavediT, pirvel sar-<br />
Tulze, iq, sadac dacvis samsaxuri<br />
iyo „gamagrebuli”. dacvis<br />
axalgazrda warmomadgenelma<br />
axla meore, ufros TanamSromels<br />
uxmo, romelic SedarebiT<br />
asakovani, maRali da odnav msuqani<br />
aRmoCnda. aq calke dakiTxva<br />
gaviare:<br />
_ gogona, visTan mibrZandebiT?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var da daviT<br />
narmanias komfortis zonaze<br />
vwer, mxolod mezoblebs vekiTxebi,<br />
Tu ramdenad kargi mezobelia<br />
qalaqis meri da ramde-<br />
nad uSualoa, salmiani?<br />
_ gasagebia da aq rogor<br />
SemoxvediT? kodi icodiT?<br />
_ ara, Ria damxvda. Tqven<br />
konkretulad narmanias icavT<br />
Tu korpuss? kodiani karis garda<br />
kidev hyavs dacva daqirave-<br />
buli?<br />
_ Cven saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />
samsaxuridan varT, _ mpasuxobs<br />
axalgazrda.<br />
_ aha, gasagebia (sosos xalxi,<br />
_ mivxvdi, visTanac maqvs saqme).<br />
_ kargi, damelodeT, _ miTxra<br />
im SedarebiT ufrosma da dareka.<br />
pirveli SemTxveva ar aris,<br />
roca dacvis samsaxurTan momiwia<br />
„Setakeba”, vixseneb.<br />
mobilurze viRacas daureka<br />
da Cem Sesaxeb mouyva yvelafers.<br />
_ sabuTi gaqvs, rom presis<br />
warmomadgeneli xar? _ mekiTxeba<br />
mobilurze mosaubre dacvis<br />
TanamSromeli.<br />
_ axlave-meTqi, _ da CanTas<br />
movkide xeli. ai, maSin damkra<br />
TavSi, roca gamaxsenda, rom mowmoba<br />
meore CanTaSi damrCa, asec<br />
avuxseni, rac erTiT nuli iyo<br />
maT sasargeblod. axla yurmili<br />
me momawoda telefonze mosaubrem<br />
da iqidan xma moisma:<br />
_ gamarjoba, saxelmwifo<br />
dacvis specialuri samsaxuris<br />
vice-polkovniki, daviT iTaSvili<br />
gesaubrebaT.<br />
_ nino tabaRua, Jurnalisti,<br />
gazeTi „qronika+”, _ vupasuxe.<br />
_ nino, Cven mezoblebisgan<br />
gafrTxilebulebi varT, rom<br />
ucxo pirebi am korpusSi ar SevuSvaT,<br />
raTa isini ar Sewuxdnen.<br />
Tqven rom aq SemoxvediT, es, albaT,<br />
imitom, rom romeliRac mezobelma<br />
datova kari Ria da<br />
radgan Tan mowmoba ar gaqvT,<br />
Cveulebriv moqalaqed iTvlebiT,<br />
Tan xom xvdebiT, Cven visac<br />
vicavT?!<br />
_ gasagebia, yvelafers vxvde-<br />
bi, SemiZlia, Cems redaqtors<br />
gagasaubroT, Tu gnebavT, _<br />
vuTxari.<br />
_ ara ara, sanam mowmoba ar<br />
iqneba, iqamde ar SegviZlia davuSvaT<br />
Tqveni iq yofna, Torem,<br />
ramdenma Cveulebrivma moqalaqem<br />
SeiZleba aq Semosvla moindomos?!<br />
Cven axla SegviZlia SegakavoT<br />
da ukan gagabrunoT, magram amas<br />
ver gavakeTebT, ver ki ara, ar<br />
gavakeTebT, radgan kanoni ar<br />
gvaZlevs amis uflebas.<br />
_ kargi, kargi batono daviT,<br />
gasagebia yvelaferi. 30 wuTSi<br />
mowmobiT moval da aucile-<br />
komfortis zona<br />
blad Semoval, Cems samsaxure-<br />
briv movaleobas Sevasruleb, _<br />
vupasuxe.<br />
_ kargi nino.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, romeliRacam<br />
SemomTavaza da aRarc maxsovs,<br />
romelma:<br />
_ dro rom ar dakargo, am<br />
korpuss sxva sadarbazoebic aqvs<br />
da SegiZlia, iq Sexvide da ikiTxoo.<br />
civi gonebiT rom ar memoqmeda,<br />
albaT, cinikurad Sevxedavdi<br />
da madlobas gadavuxdidi,<br />
aseTi sibrZne rom „damibrexva”,<br />
magram amjerad mxolod madlierebis<br />
gamoxatvas davjerdi<br />
da wamovedi.<br />
axla wuTis dakargvac ar mindoda,<br />
Tan Zalian vnanobdi, rom<br />
wamosvlis win CanTebi gavcvale<br />
da drois dakargvis uflebas ar<br />
vaZlevdi sakuTar Tavs.<br />
saxlSi davbrundi, mobiluri<br />
davtene da vnaxe, rom 30 wuTi<br />
ukve gasuliyo, axla vifiqre,<br />
albaT, hgoniaT, rom aRar mivalmeTqi.<br />
Tan saqme is iyo, rom darwmunebuli<br />
viyavi, arc erTi mezobeli<br />
axals arafers metyoda.<br />
vicodi, rom Tavad narmanias iSviaTad<br />
mohkravdnen Tvals da Tu<br />
naxavdnen, aucileblad miesalmebodnen<br />
erTmaneTs, radgan im korpusSi<br />
mezoblebis garda, sxva<br />
(CemsaviT „gadamTieli”) iSviaTad<br />
aRmoCndeboda, Tavis sadarbazo-<br />
Si mcxovreb adamianebs ki mxolod<br />
keTilganwyobis gamoc miesalmeboda<br />
qalaqis meri.<br />
mokled, principis sakiTxi<br />
iyo!<br />
parlamentSi Sesasvleli saakreditacio<br />
baraTi aviRe da kvlav<br />
im maRali mwvane korpusisken<br />
gavemarTe.<br />
SesasvlelTan misuls Signidan<br />
karTan mdgomi axalgazrda<br />
TanamSromeli damxvda, romelmac<br />
mogvianebiT miTxra, _ megona,<br />
aRar moxvidodio.<br />
_ vicodi, rom ase gegonaT,<br />
magram siurprizi-meTqi, _ vupasuxe.<br />
Cavabare Cemi mowmoba da axla<br />
mekiTxebian, _ am mowmobaze TariRi<br />
da moqmedebis vada ratom ar<br />
aweriao? _ erTwliania da zustad<br />
17 maiss aviRe es mowmoba,<br />
Sesabamisad, erTi wlis manZilze<br />
vada ar ewureba-meTqi. mainc gadarekes<br />
im ufrosTan.<br />
_ Tu gnebavT, parlamentSi<br />
davrekav da amasTan dakavSire-<br />
biT vkiTxav-meTqi.<br />
_ ara, ar aris saWiroo, _<br />
miTxres. mainc davreke da TavianTi<br />
yuriT movasmenine is, rac<br />
vuTxari. etyoba, „iqidanac” dasturi<br />
movida da axla ukve piradobisa<br />
da akreditaciis Cabarebis,<br />
plus Cemi telefonis nomris<br />
Caweris Semdeg, zemoT sarTulebze<br />
asvlis neba damrTes. _<br />
oRond meore sarTulze ar mixvideT,<br />
iq ucxoelebi cxovroben<br />
da aravin icis, vinaa meri da vin<br />
ras warmoadgens saerTodo.<br />
rogorc ukve aRvniSne, vicodi,<br />
axals arafers metyodnen, mainc<br />
avedi. mesame sarTulze 7-8<br />
wlis gogona derefanSi idga,<br />
mgoni, cekvaze wasasvlelad emzadeboda,<br />
kari farTod iyo gaRebuli<br />
da vTxove, iqneb, ufrosebs<br />
dauZaxo-meTqi. axlaveo, _<br />
miTxra da daaxloebiT 10 wamSi<br />
60 wlamde bebo gamovida karTan:<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var<br />
„qronika+”-dan, mainteresebs<br />
daviT narmanias Tu icnobT?<br />
rogori mezobelia? ramdenad<br />
salmiani?<br />
_ gamarjoba, Svilo, gzaSi roca<br />
gvxvdeba, namdvilad salmiania,<br />
meti nacnoboba ar gvaqvs. meti<br />
arc vicnobT da arc araferi.<br />
_ meuRles Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ki, myavs danaxuli. aqane,<br />
saerTod, ar aris es nacnoboba<br />
da ojaxiT gadasvla, aqana ar<br />
ician da imereTSi _ ki, _ gaiRima<br />
da saxlSi Sevida.<br />
_ gmadlobT-meTqi.<br />
maRla sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />
ori sarTuliT maRla avedi,<br />
kari me-11, an me-12-klaselma<br />
gogonam gamiRo, masac warvudgine<br />
Cemi Tavi da igive vkiTxe,<br />
razedac mipasuxa, rom isic iSviaTad<br />
naxulobda xolme mers,<br />
magram Tu naxavda, aucileblad<br />
miesalmebodnen erTmaneTs.<br />
sul es iyo...<br />
dabla kibeebze daveSvi, gamosvlisas<br />
dacvac gamovida,<br />
_ ase male morCio?<br />
_ ki-meTqi. kari gamiRo, madloba<br />
gadavuxade.<br />
SeiZleba, yvela saqmis kursSi<br />
iyo, roca sosos xalxiT dacul<br />
mers „qronika+” estumra, cota<br />
aReldnen da isev damSviddnen.<br />
axla im mwvane korpusSi kidev<br />
dgas is dacvac da narmaniac cxovrobs<br />
Tavis binaSi. yvelaferi<br />
dalagdeba, mTavaria, qalaqsa da<br />
qveyanas eSvelos odesme.<br />
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demna veSapiZe<br />
bolo periodSi Cvens qveyanaSi saocari rameebi xdeba. sao-<br />
cari im TvalsazrisiT, rom msgavss adre, ubralod, ver warmovidgendiT:<br />
rom saqarTveloSi dadgeboda Jami, rodesac didgor-<br />
obis aRniSvnas ucxo qveynis, konkretulad ki TurqeTis elCi<br />
agvikrZalavda; an iranis elCi gangvisazRvravda, rogor Segvemowmebina<br />
adamianebi saqarTvelos sazRvarze; an igive Turqebi<br />
migviTiTebdnen, aRvniSnoT Tu ara osmalebze miRweuli brwyinvale<br />
gamarjveba xresilis omSi; an kidev vinmes Tu warmoedg-<br />
ina, rom TurqeTisTvis unda gvekiTxa, davdgaT Tu ara baTumis<br />
centrSi aWaris dedasamSobloSi dabrunebis aRmniSvneli memo-<br />
riali. daujerebelia, magram faqtia, rom Cveni e. w. partniori<br />
da megobari saxelmwifoebi ase utifrad erevian Cvens saqmeebSi,<br />
Wkuas gvarigeben da pirdapir iTxoven Cvengan, uari vTqvaT sakuTar<br />
istoriaze, uari vTqvaT sakuTari dResaswaulebis aRniSvnaze<br />
da mxolod maTi nebarTviT gadavwyvitoT, romeli isto-<br />
riuli movlena gagvixardes da romeli _ ara.<br />
erTi ubedureba isaa, rom<br />
Cveni e. w. megobari saxelmwifoebi<br />
amas gvkadreben da gvibedaven,<br />
magram aTasjer ufro<br />
meti ubedureba isaa, rom Cveni<br />
sakuTari xelisufleba aseT<br />
moTxovnebze saprotesto notebs<br />
ki ar agzavnis, aramed mor-<br />
Cilad xris Tavs da mzadaa, ukanalic<br />
miuSviros imaT, vinc<br />
utifrad ereva Cvens saSinao da<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
tis gaZlierebasa da ganmtkicebas”.<br />
verafers ityvi, teqstia _<br />
gagaJrJolebs. eWvi ar Segepareba<br />
kacs, rom am teqstis avtori<br />
aris erovnuli da qarTuli<br />
Rirebulebebis kbilebiT damcveli<br />
xelisufleba, romelic<br />
gulanTebuli zrunavs saqarTveloSi<br />
erovnuli muxtis gaRvivebasa<br />
da globalizaciis moaxloebul<br />
safrTxeze, xmalamoRebuli<br />
ebrZvis qveynis istoriuli<br />
da sabrZolo tradiciebis<br />
warmoCinebas. magram, uecrad, am<br />
rixiani da emociuri kanonproeqtis<br />
gaJRerebidan ramdenime<br />
dReSi, vigebT, rom didgorobis,<br />
anu 12 agvistos uqme dRed<br />
gamocxadeba da masTan erTad<br />
globalizaciasTan erovnuli<br />
muxtiT brZola aRar gamodis.<br />
kanonproeqtis erT-erTma avtorma,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” deputatma<br />
nukri qanTariam, gamogvicxada,<br />
rom „CavisvareT”...<br />
diax, diax, sruli am sityvis<br />
mniSvnelobiT, „CavisvareT”, radgan<br />
Znelia, ukeTesi Sesatyvisi<br />
moufiqro imas, rac saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam gaakeTa.<br />
rogorc gairkva, Cveni es iniciativa,<br />
didgorobis uqme dRed<br />
gamocxadebasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
Zalian ar moswonebia, Cvens<br />
„did megobarsa” da mezobel<br />
TurqeTs. miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
meTormete saukuneSi, 1121<br />
wels, dRevandeli Turqebis,<br />
anu osmalebis xseneba saerTod<br />
ar iyo, Turqebma mainc Zalian<br />
mtkivneulad ganicades Tavian-<br />
Ti Soreuli winaprebis istoriuli<br />
marcxis aRniSvna mezobel<br />
saqarTveloSi. ganicades da<br />
Tavs ufleba misces, CvenTvis<br />
eTqvaT, _ iqneb, aRar aRniSnoT<br />
qarTveli eris es yvelaze didi<br />
gamarjvebao. Cvenma xelisuflebam<br />
ki, imis magivrad, rom<br />
aseT Seuracxyofaze mkacri<br />
protesti gamoexata, an, minimum,<br />
diplomatiur enaze mainc<br />
epasuxa, kanonproeqtis ganxilva<br />
SeaCera. Tan rogorc mogvianebiT,<br />
imave qanTariasgan gairkva,<br />
kanonproeqtis SeCereba<br />
Turqul mxares oficialurad<br />
ar mouTxovia. saelCos Tavisi<br />
pozicia araoficialur Sexvedraze<br />
gauJRerebia, rac sruliad<br />
sakmarisi aRmoCnda saqar-<br />
Tvelos xelisuflebaSi monuri<br />
morCilebis refleqsiis gasaRviZeblad.<br />
amas garda, Cvenma „erovnulma”<br />
xelisuflebam, imave deputatis<br />
meSveobiT, Segvatyobina<br />
Tu ratom moiTxoves Turqebma<br />
aseTi ram Cvengan. deputatis<br />
ganmartebiT, TurqeTis saelCos<br />
saqarTvelos parlamentis-<br />
Tvis megobruli TxovniT moumarTavs,<br />
rom iqneb, kanonproeqti<br />
arsebuli formiT ar miiRo-<br />
To. elCs uTqvams, rom didgori<br />
maTi damarcxebis dRea da parlamentis<br />
am gadawyvetlebam SeiZleba,<br />
garkveuli usiamovneba<br />
Seitanos ori qveynis urTier-<br />
TobebSio. saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
amas megobrul Txovnas<br />
uwodebs, xolo Tavis sasircxvilo<br />
qmedebas imiT amarTlebs,<br />
rom saqarTvelo patara qveyanaa<br />
da did TurqeTTan Widili<br />
sad SegviZliao? TurqeTi xom<br />
saqarTvelos mezobeli, udidesi<br />
saxelmwifoa, romelTanac<br />
urTierTobis daZabva ar gvawyobs.<br />
mokled, vasaloba, mliqvneloba<br />
da xelisuflebis mier sakuTari<br />
qveynis interesebisa da<br />
suverenitetis Seuracxyofa na-<br />
Tlad dafiqsirda. mTavrobis<br />
aseTi ususuroba „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
mxadamWerebsac ar moewonaT,<br />
maTi ukmayofilo gamona-<br />
Tqvamebi socialur qselSi<br />
dResac mravladaa, magram Sedegi<br />
_ aranairi. kanonproeqti ga-<br />
Cerebulia. marTalia, misi avtorebi<br />
ki Wirveuloben, kanonproeqts<br />
ar gavitanTo, magram romelime<br />
maTgans principuli winaaRmdegobis<br />
survili rom<br />
hqondes, aseTi Seuracxyofis<br />
Semdeg, sul mcire, kapitulanturi<br />
xelisuflebis rigebi<br />
mainc unda datovos.<br />
didgorobis aRniSvna da mas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebuli miTiTebebi<br />
saqarTvelosTvis erTjeradi<br />
SemTxveva ar aris. analogiuri<br />
moxda tyibulis raionis sofel<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
akrZaluli istoria<br />
da didi mezoblebis<br />
vasalad qceuli<br />
xelisufleba<br />
istoriul saqmeebSi.<br />
Tumca mivyveT TanmimdevrobiT:<br />
sul raRac erTi Tvis winaT<br />
parlamentis ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa<br />
da kulturis komitetma<br />
didgoris brZolis dRis,<br />
12 agvistos „saqarTvelos didi<br />
gamarjvebis” dRed gamocxadebas<br />
da uqmed dawesebas erTxmad<br />
dauWira mxari.<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” deputatebis<br />
mier momzadebuli kanonproeqtis<br />
Tanaxmad, 2017 wlis 1-<br />
li ivlisidan moyolebuli, yovelwliurad,<br />
12 agvistos saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobam unda moamzados<br />
„saqarTvelos didi gamarjvebis<br />
dRis” aRsaniSnavad sazeimo<br />
RonisZiebebi, warmoadginos<br />
Sesabamisi gegma da a. S.<br />
kanonproeqtis ganmartebiT,<br />
baraTSi, aseve, naTqvamia:<br />
„globalizaciis pirobebSi sa-<br />
Wiroa erovnuli muxtis gaRviveba<br />
da propaganda imisa, ra<br />
Rirebulebebis dacviT movida<br />
marTlmadidebeli saqarTvelo<br />
dRemde. am kuTxiT umniSvnelovanesia<br />
didgoris brZolaSi<br />
gamarjvebis dRis _ 12 agvistos<br />
20<br />
_ uqme dRed gamocxadeba da erovnuli<br />
suliskveTebis, istoriuli<br />
da sabrZolo tradiciebis<br />
warmoCinebiT aRniSvna. momavalma<br />
Taobebma unda dainaxon,<br />
ra Rirebulebebze idga qarTuli<br />
saxelmwifo. didgorobis<br />
saerTo-saxalxo dResaswaulad<br />
da „saqarTvelos didi gamarjvebis<br />
dRed” gamocxadeba<br />
xels Seuwyobs erovnuli mux-<br />
xresilSi, sadac 1757 wels solomon<br />
pirvelma brwyinvale gamarjveba<br />
izeima osmalebTan gamarTul<br />
brZolaSi. swored am<br />
gamarjvebis aRsaniSnavad sofel<br />
xresilSi dgas memoriali,<br />
romelzedac amotvifruli iyo<br />
solomonis mier osmalebze gamarjvebis<br />
ambavi. 2011 wels es<br />
warwera memorialze gadaakeTes<br />
da sityvebi „osmalTa armia” gadaSales.<br />
samagierod, Caamates<br />
zogadi sityva „mters”. sabolood,<br />
memorialze darCa warwera<br />
imis Sesaxeb, rom qarTulma<br />
jarma, solomon pirvelis me-<br />
TaurobiT, sZlia mters.<br />
samwuxarod, Cveni ususurobisa<br />
da ukanlobis ambavi didgorisa<br />
da xresilis magaliTebi-<br />
Tac ar sruldeba. analogiuri<br />
ubedureba gvWirs aWaraSic:<br />
SarSanwin, 2015 wels, baTumis<br />
merias 3500-ma moqalaqem mimar-<br />
Ta peticiiT, baTumSi daidgas<br />
aWaris dedasamSobloSi dabrunebis<br />
aRmniSvneli memoriali.<br />
iniciativa adgilobrivma xelisuflebam<br />
didi enTuziazmiT<br />
aitaca (iseve, rogorc didgorobis<br />
uqme dRed gamocxadeba) da<br />
samzadisic daiwyo. saqmeSi CaerTo<br />
eric da beric.<br />
gadawyda, rom memoriali daidgmeboda<br />
baTumSi, sakaTedro<br />
taZris mimdebare teritoriaze<br />
arsebul skverSi. 25 agvistos<br />
ki meufe dimitris kurTxeviT,<br />
mama andriam gardacvlil gmir-<br />
Ta sulis mosaxsenebeli panaSvidi<br />
gadaixada da memorialis<br />
aRmarTvis adgilic ki akurTxa.<br />
RonisZiebas eswrebodnen da<br />
Tavs iwonebdnen baTumis meri<br />
da aWaris umaRlesi sabWos deputatebi.<br />
gaxmovanda sakmaod<br />
mniSvnelovani iniciativac, rom<br />
25 agvisto saqarTvelos istoriis<br />
gansakuTrebuli TariRia<br />
da kargi iqneba, Tu es TariRi<br />
saxelmwifo dResaswaulad gamocxaddeba.<br />
aWaris eparqia ki<br />
sapatriarqos TxovniT mimarTavs,<br />
raTa 25 agvisto saeklesio<br />
dResaswaulad gamocxaddes.<br />
iyo bevri patriotuli sityva<br />
da amaRlebuli ganwyoba, upirveles<br />
yovlisa, aWarlebisTvis,<br />
visTvisac aWaris dedasamSobloSi<br />
dabruneba ara mxolod<br />
mTeli qveynis, aramed, konkretulad,<br />
maTi ojaxebis istoriacaa.<br />
rogorc amboben, memorialic<br />
ki damzadda, Tan mTlianad<br />
Semowiruli TanxiT da er-<br />
TaderTi rac darCa, misi nakurTx<br />
adgilze dadgmaa, magram...(?!!)<br />
meore welia, arc memoriali<br />
unaxavs vinmes da aRarc<br />
_ xelisuflebis enTuziazmi.<br />
bunebrivia, rom yvela is adamiani,<br />
romelic uSualod Car-<br />
Tuli iyo memorialis momzadebisa<br />
da misi aRmarTvis saqmeSi,<br />
rbilad rom vTqvaT, daibna. Ti-<br />
Tqmis bolomde miyvanili saqme<br />
ise gaCerda, rom arc qalaqis<br />
sakrebulo, arc is komiteti,<br />
romelmac memorialis aRmarTvis<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRo, arc<br />
xmas iReben da arc pasuxs iZlevian.<br />
didi mokvlevisa da davidarabis<br />
Semdeg, pirad saubreb-<br />
Si, rogorc iqna, mizezi amotivtivda:<br />
Cvens did mezobelsa da<br />
mTavar partniors ar moswonebia<br />
qarTvelebis idea aWaris<br />
dedasamSobloSi dabrunebis<br />
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Taobaze da pirad saubrebSi gairkva,<br />
TurqeTis saelCos mouTxovia,<br />
rom memorialis warweridan<br />
gamqraliyo sityva „osmaleTi”<br />
da konkretuli TariRebi,<br />
ris Semdegac, bunebrivia, es<br />
memoriali saerTod dakargavda<br />
Tavdapirvel daniSnulebas. es<br />
am istoriis erTi ubedurebaa,<br />
meore ubedureba ki is gaxlavT,<br />
rom baTumis meriis TanamSromlebma<br />
araerTxel urCies memorialis<br />
ideis avtorebs, rom,<br />
iqneb, gagveTvaliswinebina TurqeTis<br />
moTxovnao, bolos da<br />
bolos, mezobelia da ratom<br />
unda vawyeninoTo? am ori ubedurebidan<br />
romelia ufro didi<br />
ubedureba, albaT, ioli misaxvedria.<br />
ra Tqma unda, aravis<br />
moswons, mezobeli saxelmwifo<br />
ase uxeSad rom migiTiTebs, rogor<br />
aRniSno Seni istoriuli<br />
gamarjvebebi, magram ra unda<br />
mosTxovo, an rogor unda mosTxovo<br />
sxvas, roca Senive xelisufleba<br />
ar icavs qveynis interess<br />
da pirvelsave dacacxanebaze<br />
mzadaa, ukana TaTebze<br />
dadges da kudi uqicinos did<br />
mezobels.<br />
Zalian bevri kiTxvis niSania<br />
Tavad Turqebis moTxovnebSi.<br />
ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, bevri<br />
Seusabamobaa, magaliTad,<br />
didgorTan dakavSirebiT: sad<br />
osmalebis STamomavali dRevandeli<br />
Turqebi da sad 1121 wels<br />
damarcxebuli Turq-selCukTa<br />
gaerTaianebuli laSqari? osmalebi,<br />
saerTod, ramdenime saukunis<br />
Semdeg gamoCndnen kacobriobis<br />
istoriaSi. ase rom, kudis<br />
qicinis nacvlad ajobebda,<br />
vinmes Cveni mTavari partniorisTvis<br />
aexsna, rom erTi: aravin<br />
maT ar ekiTxeba, romel gamarjvebas<br />
vizeimebT qarTvelebi<br />
da romel dRes gamovacxadebT<br />
uqmad da meore: sanerviulo<br />
saerTod ar aqvT, radgan me-12<br />
saukuneSi isini saerTod ar<br />
arsebobdnen.<br />
rac Seexeba xresilis brZolasa<br />
da aWaris memorialis ambavs,<br />
aqac Turqebi araadekvaturad<br />
da ormagi standartiT<br />
moqmedeben. sayovelTaod cnobili<br />
faqtia, rom 1923 wlidan<br />
moyolebuli, yovel 29 oqtombers,<br />
TurqeTi, osmalTa imperiisgan<br />
ganTavisuflebasa da revoluciis<br />
gamarjvebas zeimobs.<br />
da Tu Tavad Turqebi emijnebian<br />
osmalebs, ratom nerviuloben<br />
amdens Cvens gamarjvebebze<br />
osmalebis winaaRmdeg?..<br />
Tumca am kiTxvaze Cvens did mezobels<br />
pasuxis gacema ar mouwevs,<br />
radgan patara saqarTvelos<br />
mSiSara xelisuflebas mis-<br />
Tvis es kiTxva ar dausvams.<br />
TurqeTis mxridan saqarTvelosadmi<br />
damokidebuleba am<br />
fotozec SesaniSnavad Cans. ori<br />
qveynis lideris oficialur<br />
Sexvedaraze mxolod TurqeTis<br />
saxelmwifo droSebia gamofenili.<br />
arada, yvela diplomatiuri<br />
protokolis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />
Sexvedraze saqarTvelos dro-<br />
Sac unda yofiliyo warmodgenili.<br />
rogorc Cans, ankaraSi religiurma<br />
ganwyobebma imZlavra<br />
da xuTjvriani qarTuli dro-<br />
Sa, ubralod, examuSaT. esaa demonstrireba<br />
imisa, rom Turqe-<br />
Ti saqarTvelos ar ayenebs im<br />
partniorTa rigSi, romlis-<br />
Tvisac TavSi wamoTaqeba ar Sei-<br />
Zleba. an ratom daayenebs, roca<br />
saqarTvelos xelisufleba am<br />
wamoTaqebaze xmasac ar iRebs?<br />
xelisufleba rom ususuri<br />
da uxerxemlo gvyavs, gavigeT,<br />
magram qarTveli erisTvis es<br />
Zalze arasakmarisi argumentia<br />
imisTvis, rom didgoroba aRar<br />
aRvniSnoT, xresilis memoriali<br />
gadaSlili davtovoT da aWaris<br />
dedasamSobloSi dabrunebis memoriali<br />
aRar davdgaT. aseTi,<br />
erovnul faseulobebTan dakav-<br />
Sirebuli sakiTxebi nebismieri<br />
erisTvis sensitiuria, qarTvelebisTvis<br />
ki _ sasicocxlod<br />
mniSvnelovani. ase rom, Tu „ocnebaSi”<br />
es ar esmiT, Zalian cudi<br />
maTTvisve. biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
saswrafod Tu ar gamoaswora<br />
mdgomareoba, es iqneba pirveli<br />
xelisufleba, romelsac<br />
antiqarTvelobisTvis gaabun-<br />
Zuleben xelisuflebidan.<br />
TurqeTi araa erTaderTi<br />
qveyana, romlis winaSec Cveni<br />
uniaTo xelisufleba kuds aqicinebs.<br />
sul cota xnis winaT<br />
iranis sagareo saqmeTa ministrma<br />
TbilisSi vizitisas qarTuli<br />
mxare iraneli turistebis<br />
upativcemulobaSi daadanaSaula.<br />
Turme, Tbilisis saerTa-<br />
Soriso aeroportSi iranel muslim<br />
qals Cxrekisas hijabis<br />
moxsna aiZules. rogorc mogvianebiT<br />
gairkva, es gancxadeba<br />
iranelma ministrma saqarTvelos<br />
premier-ministrTan Sexvedrisas<br />
gaakeTa. Tumca iranelebis<br />
am pretenziis Sesaxeb<br />
qarTulma sazogadoebam ara sakuTari<br />
mTavrobisgan, aramed<br />
iranuli mediisgan Seityo, romelic<br />
iuwyeboda, rom qarTulma<br />
mxarem piroba misca iranis<br />
sagareo saqmeTa ministrs, saswrafod<br />
gamoiZiebda aeroport-<br />
Si momxdar am aRmaSfoTebel<br />
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faqts da yvelafers gaakeTebda<br />
imisTvis, raTa msgavsi ram<br />
aRarasodes ganmeorebuliyo.<br />
anu arc qveynis Seuracxyofa,<br />
arc qveynis usafrTxoeba, arc<br />
terorizmis safrTxe da araferi<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobas ar<br />
adardebs. mTavaria, patronebi<br />
iyvnen kmayofilni da qveynis<br />
interesi vis dahkargvia?!.<br />
iranelebTan CoqbjenSi gadasuli,<br />
Cveni xelisuflebis Semxedvares,<br />
oci wlis winandeli<br />
istoria gamaxsenda, romlis monawilec<br />
Tavad gaxldiT: 90-iani<br />
wlebis SuaSi saqarTveloSi<br />
vizitiT imyofeboda iranis islamuri<br />
respublikis delegacia<br />
ali larijanis xelmZRvanelobiT.<br />
es is larijania, romelic<br />
dRes iranis parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomarea. maSin igi iranis<br />
televiziasa da ideologiis samsaxurs<br />
xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
erT-erTi bolo Sexvedra delegacias<br />
sapatriarqoSi hqonda<br />
daniSnuli. ali larijansa da<br />
mis Tanmxleb pirebs misi uwmindesoba<br />
maspinZlobda. Sexvedris<br />
dawyebidan ramdenime wu-<br />
TSi darbazSi yava da koniaki<br />
Semoitanes. delegaciis wevrebma<br />
koniakis danaxvaze ukmayofileba<br />
ver damales da miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom aravin maT koniakis<br />
dalevas ar aZalebda, utifrad<br />
mosTxoves monazvnebs, saswrafod<br />
gaetanaT koniaki darbazidan.<br />
viTareba iseT uxerxul<br />
daZabulobaSi gadaizarda,<br />
rom daukrefavSi gadasuli<br />
stumrebis daSoSmineba TviT patriarqs<br />
mouwia. misma uwmindesobam,<br />
misTvis damaxasiaTebeli<br />
simSvidiT, iranel stumrebs<br />
mouwoda, dawynarebuliyvnen da<br />
roca es ukanasknelni cqmutvas<br />
morCnen, uTxra: „roca me Camoval<br />
TqvenTan stumrad, pirobas<br />
gaZlevT, Tqveni qveynis tradiciebs<br />
davicav da rogorc stumari,<br />
davemorCilebi Tqven mier<br />
SemoTavazebul stumar-maspin-<br />
Zlobis wesebs. dRes Tqven xarT<br />
Cemi stumrebi da neba miboZeT,<br />
ise gimaspinZloT da ise daglocoT,<br />
rogorc Cveni, qarTuli<br />
wesia. Tqven nu miirTmevT<br />
koniaks, es Tqveni nebaa, magram<br />
me nu momTxovT Tqveni sadRegrZelo<br />
CaiT davlioo”...<br />
oci wlis winaT megona, rom<br />
ase unda moqceuliyo yvela,<br />
magram dRes vxvdebi, ase mxolod<br />
patriarqi iqceva. xom warmogidgeniaT,<br />
rogor moiqceva<br />
aseT viTarebaSi Cveni xelisufleba.<br />
darwmunebuli var, koniaksac<br />
gaitandnen, bodiSsac<br />
moixdidnen da pirobasac dadebdnen,<br />
cxovrebaSi aRar gavekarebiT<br />
spirtian sasmelebso.<br />
saubedurod, Cveni xelisuflebis<br />
uprincipoba da vaiqar-<br />
Tveloba mxolod memorialebis<br />
ardadgmiT da dResaswaulebis<br />
araRniSvniT ar sruldeba.<br />
yvelaferi gacilebiT seriozuladaa.<br />
cota meti yuradRebiT<br />
Tu SevxedavT, Tu ra xdeba ucxo<br />
qveynis moqalaqeebis mier<br />
SeZenil qarTul miwebze, davinaxavT,<br />
rogor Sendeba arabuli<br />
qalaqi saguramoSi, sadac, ramdenime<br />
weliwadSi, 350 000 kvadratul<br />
metrze gaSenebul qalaqSi<br />
axlo aRmosavleTidan vizitorebsa<br />
da mcxovreblebs<br />
elodebian. davinaxavT, rogor<br />
Cndeba mcxeTis garSemo xuTi<br />
axali, oRond arabuli sofeli.<br />
gansakuTrebuli yuradReba sul<br />
ar sWirdeba imas, rom dainaxo, ra<br />
xdeba Zvel baTumSi da a. S. realuri<br />
problema da Seuqcevadi<br />
safrTxe swored aqaa. qveynis<br />
tragedia ki isaa, rom xelisuflebas<br />
am yvelafris winaaRmdeg<br />
araTu brZolis unari, brZolis<br />
survilic ki ar gaaCnia.<br />
iq, sadac Turqebisa da iranelebis<br />
dakrulze yiraze gadavdivarT,<br />
advili warmosadgenia,<br />
rogori monuri morCileba<br />
aqvs mTavrobas dasavleli<br />
patronebis mimarT. Sors rom<br />
ar wavideT, evrokavSiris specialur<br />
warmomadgenelTan<br />
samxreT kavkasiaSi, herbert<br />
zalberTan dakavSirebuli icidentic<br />
mSvenivrad warmoaCens<br />
Cvens vasalobas.<br />
ramdenime dRis win zalberi<br />
cxinvals estumra da axlad<br />
arCeul de faqto prezident<br />
anatoli bibilovs jer arCeva<br />
miuloca, mere ki uTxra, umniSvnelovanesi<br />
Tanamdeboba gikavia<br />
da aba, Sen ici, warmatebebs<br />
gisurveb saqmianobaSio. saqar-<br />
Tvelos xelisuflebaSi es ukve<br />
veRar aitanes da, rogorc Cans,<br />
Turqebsa da iranelebze dagrovili<br />
boRma gadawyvites, er-<br />
Tianad, herbert zalberisTvis<br />
daenTxiaT Tavze. mTeli „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” ori dRe imuqreboda,<br />
_ Camova zalberi Tbilis-<br />
Si da naxavT, magas ras vuzam-<br />
To! cxel gulze isic ki daimuqres,<br />
_ Jenevis molaparakebebis<br />
formatidan mis Camocilebasac<br />
moviTxovTo.<br />
da, aha, Camovida zalberi<br />
TbilisSi wina kviras da hoi, saocrebav,<br />
_ sad gaqra Cveni xelisuflebis<br />
rixi?!! sad gaqra<br />
is principuli da Seupovari<br />
dapirebebi pasuxis moTxovnas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT?!! kidev er-<br />
Txel kreba darCa mxiaruli. arc<br />
zalberma miiCnia saWirod aexsna<br />
da ganemarta, ratom moiqca<br />
cxinvalSi ase da verc sagareo<br />
saqmeTa saministrom agvixsna,<br />
ratom ar mosTxova zalbers<br />
mkacrad pasuxi mis saqcielze?<br />
ordRiani baqibuqis Semdeg gairkva,<br />
rom CvenTvis mTavaria,<br />
Jenevis molaparakebebs araferi<br />
daemuqros, Torem qveynis prestiJi<br />
da misi saerTaSoriso avtoriteti<br />
rodis yofila am xelisuflebis<br />
interesi?..<br />
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nino tabaRua<br />
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saqarTvelos is saerTaSoriso valdebulebebiT moeTxove-<br />
ba, zogi mas biznesisa da investiciebis Semaferxeblad, zogi<br />
ki dasaqmebulebis uflebebis dacvis meqanizmad moixseniebs.<br />
yvelafers Tavisi ori mxare aqvs da bolo dReebis manZilze<br />
rac aqtualuri iyo, es SromiT usafrTxoebas exeboda.<br />
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gigi wereTeli<br />
bevrma isaubra da dawera misi<br />
mniSvnelobis Sesaxeb, Tumca cotam<br />
Tu aRniSna, rom garda dasaqmebulTa<br />
uflebebisa, imuSaon<br />
usafrTxo garemoSi, iyo meore<br />
mxarec, rac biznesisa da ekonomikis<br />
ganviTarebas exeba.<br />
erTi ki mainc cxadia, rom arc<br />
erTi samuSao, Tu institutis arseboba<br />
ar Rirs adamianis sicocxled<br />
_ amaze yvelani vTanxmdebiT.<br />
axla ki mokle istoria imis<br />
Sesaxeb, Tu ras niSnavs da saqarTveloSi<br />
rogori warsuli aqvs<br />
Sromis inspeqcias, romelic 9-<br />
wliani lodinis Semdeg dabrunda<br />
da mas 2015 wels mieca xelaxla<br />
„aRorZinebis” SesaZlebloba.<br />
jer kidev 2002 wlis 30 aprils<br />
xeli moewera da damtkicda saqarTvelos<br />
Sromis, janmrTelobisa<br />
da socialuri dacvis saministros<br />
gamgeblobaSi arsebuli saxelmwifo<br />
saqveuwyebo dawesebulebis<br />
_ Sromis inspeqciis debuleba.<br />
am ukanasknelis mixedviT,<br />
SromiT inspeqtors ufleba hqonda,<br />
nebismier sawarmoSi Sesuliyo<br />
damoukideblad da iq arsebuli<br />
mdgomareobis standartebTan Seusabamobis<br />
SemTxvevaSi daewera<br />
oqmi, romelic Semdeg sasamarTloSi<br />
aRmoCndeboda da saWiroebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, aRniSnuli sawarmo<br />
daxuruliyo.<br />
2006 wels, rodesac „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” iyo xelisuflebaSi,<br />
aRniSnuli dokumenti gauqmda.<br />
amis realuri mizezi investorebisTvis<br />
mimzidveli garemos<br />
Seqmna da maTi saqarTveloSi Camoyvana<br />
iyo. aRniSnuli inspeqciis<br />
gauqmebis Semdeg kanonmdeblobis<br />
aRsrulebis alternatiuli<br />
struqtura ar Seqmnila. gauqmebis<br />
mizezad sistemis korumpirebuli<br />
buneba saxeldeboda, Tumca<br />
sistemas ar Sexebia raime saxis<br />
reforma, magaliTad, sagzao<br />
inspeqciis msgavsad, romelic, reformirebis<br />
Sedegad, sapatrulo<br />
policiis saxiT Camoyalibda.<br />
realurad, imisTvis, rom qveyanaSi<br />
srulyofili da qmedunariani<br />
Sromis inspeqcia Camoyalibdes,<br />
unda ganxorcieldes rigi<br />
RonisZiebebi, romlebic qveyanam<br />
aiRo sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso<br />
valdebulebis, maT Soris, Sromis<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciis ratificirebuli<br />
konvenciebis, evropis<br />
socialuri qartiis, evrokav-<br />
Siris asocirebis xelSekrulebisa<br />
da sxva dokumentebis safuZvelze,<br />
rac konkretulad Sromis<br />
inspeqtirebis kuTxiT kanonis<br />
miRebas gulisxmobs.<br />
2006 wlidan 2015 wlamde aRniSnuli<br />
dokumenti ar arsebobda,<br />
Tumca 2015 wels igi kvlav<br />
gamoCnda asparezze, oRond inspeqtorebs<br />
ufleba ar hqondaT,<br />
sawarmoSi xelmZRvanelobis miwvevis<br />
gareSe Sesuliyvnen, aseve,<br />
darRvevis aRmoCenis SemTxvevaSi<br />
ufleba ar hqondaT, kompaniisTvis<br />
sanqciebi daewesebinaT, SeemowmebinaT<br />
da gaekontrolebinaT<br />
dasaqmebis zrda Tu<br />
SromiT-samarTlebrivi mxare, anu<br />
Sromis kontraqti xom ar iyo kabaluri,<br />
an arakanonieri? msgavsi<br />
tipis institutis qonas saqarTvelos<br />
evrokavSirTan gaformebuli<br />
asocirebis SeTanxmebac avaldebulebs.<br />
kerZod, asocirebis<br />
SeTanxmebis 30-e danarTis mixedviT,<br />
saqarTvelom dasaqmebisa da<br />
socialuri politikis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonmdebloba evropulTan unda<br />
daaaxloos, Tumca amisTvis qveyanas<br />
vada SeTanxmebis ZalaSi Sesvlidan<br />
3-dan 5 wlamde aqvs.<br />
SromiTi inspeqcia dRes arsebobs,<br />
Tumca igi mxolod sarekomendacio<br />
xasiaTisaa. sanqcirebisa<br />
da kontrolis meqanizmTan<br />
dakavSirebiT SeniSvnebi aqvs profkavSirebs.<br />
maT aucileblad miaCniaT<br />
sadamsjelo RonisZiebebis<br />
gatareba.<br />
profkavSirebis xelmZRvane-<br />
li, irakli petriaSvili, ambobs,<br />
`nebismieri sakiTxi<br />
unda gvesmodes ase:<br />
araferi dgas<br />
adamianis sicocxlesa<br />
da janmrTelobaze<br />
maRla, magram, amave<br />
dros, roca Sromaze<br />
vsaubrobT, jer<br />
samuSao adgilebi<br />
unda arsebobdes da<br />
ise ar unda<br />
gadaixaros saswori,<br />
rom Zalian mkacrma<br />
wesebma Seaferxos<br />
muSaoba~<br />
rom sammxrivi kontolis gareSe<br />
inspeqcia kvlav iseT korufciul<br />
saxes miiRebs, ris gamoc is 2006<br />
wels gauqmda.<br />
biznesseqtors da damsaqmebelTa<br />
asociacias sakanonmdeblo<br />
cvlilebebis is nawili ar moswons,<br />
romliTac Sromis inspeqcias<br />
ufleba eZleva, sasamarTlo nebarTvis<br />
gareSe sawarmoSi Sevides<br />
da yvela piroba Seamowmos, maT<br />
Soris, finansuri dokumentacia.<br />
damsaqmebelTa asociaciis<br />
prezidentma mixeil korZaxiam<br />
„qronika+”-sTan aRniSna, rom arsebobs<br />
maregulirebeli organo<br />
da es zedamxedvelobis samsaxuria,<br />
amitom damatebiT Sromis<br />
inspeqciis arseboba, Tan sadamsjelo<br />
uflebebiT, saWiro namdvilad<br />
ar aris.<br />
nikoloz nanuaSvili _ saqar-<br />
Tvelos biznesasociaciis anal-<br />
itikosi:<br />
_ bolo dros samuSao adgilebze<br />
janmrTelobis dazianebisa da<br />
ubeduri SemTxvevebis momatebuli<br />
raodenobis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />
usafrTxoebis pirobebis monitoringis<br />
funqciiT aRWurvilma<br />
Sromis inspeqciam SesaZloa, namdvilad<br />
dadebiTi roli Seasrulos.<br />
_ ra safrTxe SeiZleba Seuqm-<br />
nas Sromis inspeqciam bizness,<br />
Tu inspeqtorebis saqmianoba mx-<br />
olod sarekomendacio xasiaTis<br />
aRar iqneba da kanonis Zala mie-<br />
cema? rogoria asoaciaciis pozicia<br />
inspeqciasTan dakavSire-<br />
biT?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, es safrTxe<br />
dakavSirebulia imasTan, Tu Tavad<br />
Sromis inspeqcia rogorc institucia,<br />
ramdenad efeqtianad<br />
da sworad gamoiyenebs sakuTar<br />
uflebamosilebebs.<br />
aucileblad unda ganvsazRvroT,<br />
rom Sromis inspeqciis uflebamosilebebi<br />
unda gavrceldes<br />
mxolod iseT sawarmoebze, sadac<br />
muSaoba dakavSirebulia mavne<br />
pirobebTan, an mometebul riskebTan.<br />
anu martivad rom vTqvaT,<br />
Sromis inspeqtors saofise samsaxurTan<br />
araferi esaqmeba, ofisebSi<br />
ar iRupeba xalxi da es<br />
iqneba resursis fuWi xarjva.<br />
mxolod kompetenturi kadrebiT<br />
dakompleqtebuli Sromis<br />
inspeqcia SeZlebs sakuTari amocanebisTvis<br />
efeqtianad Tavis gar-<br />
Tmevas, am SemTxvevaSi, mizani unda<br />
iyos ara maqsimalurad far-<br />
To da mkacri kontroli, aramed<br />
riskebis analizis safuZvelze<br />
dagegmili monitoringis politika.<br />
kontroli da miT umetes, Sromis<br />
usafrTxoebis pirobebis kontroli,<br />
biznesisaTvis safrTxe<br />
araa, safrTxe Seiqmneba mxolod<br />
maSin, Tu kontrolis uflebamosilebebi<br />
gamoyenebuli iqneba<br />
aramiznobrivad da araefeqtianad;<br />
am SemTxvevaSi es iqneba safr-<br />
Txe rogorc damsaqmeblisTvis,<br />
aseve dasaqmebulisTvis.<br />
„qronika+” dainteresda, Tu<br />
ra viTarebaa am mxriv janmrTe-<br />
lobis dacvisa da Sromis komitetSi<br />
da Tu ganixilaven am sakiTxs?<br />
ras fiqroben Tavad komi-<br />
tetis wevrebi da, realurad,<br />
ratom gauqmda arsebuli kanon-<br />
mdebloba Sromis inspeqciasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT 2006 wels?<br />
gigi wereTeli _ komitetis<br />
wevri, „erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis warmomadgeneli”:<br />
_ am mimarTulebiT mTlad<br />
kargad ar aris saqme, Sromis inspeqcia,<br />
ZiriTadad, ufro safr-<br />
Txis Semcvel obieqtebs exeba.<br />
vnaxeT, rom problemuri Temaa<br />
adrindelidan da bolo droidan<br />
gamomdinarec, amitom, bunebrivia,<br />
es sakiTxi ufro mwvaved dadga,<br />
manamdec iyo diskusiebi am Temaze,<br />
aqtiurad gamodioda arasamTavrobo<br />
seqtori, saerTaSoriso<br />
organizaciebsac hqondaT Sexedulebebi,<br />
mere Sromis kodeqs-<br />
Si cvlilebebi Sevida dasaqmebulebis<br />
uflebebisTvis.<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebaze vfiqrob,<br />
rom garkveuli nabijebi gadasadgmelia.<br />
roca Sromis inspeqciaze<br />
an raime maregulirebelzea<br />
22 N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.
akaki comaia _ ekonomikis<br />
eqsperti:<br />
_ SromiTi inspeqciis amocana<br />
aris is, rom garkveuli standartebi<br />
Camoayalibos, romelsac<br />
yvela biznesi unda akmayofilebdes<br />
konkretul regionSi. Sesabamisad,<br />
unda Seamowmos, Tu ram-<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
dasaqmebulTa usafrTxoeba?!<br />
saubari, Cveni memarjvene centristuli<br />
midgoma, zogadad, ar<br />
aris is, rom bevri regulacia da<br />
inspeqcia, axali wnexi iyos biznesze,<br />
miT ufro, Tu am maregulireblis<br />
efeqtianoba eWvis qveS<br />
dgas. am SemTxvevaSi, nebismieri<br />
makontrolebeli organo, farTo<br />
uflebebiT, ar iqneba Sedegis momtani,<br />
piriqiT, tvirTi SeiZleba<br />
gaxdes. amitom mgonia, rom Tu<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT nabijebi gadaidgmeba, es<br />
unda iyos sworad gansazRvruli,<br />
gansakuTrebiT saSiSi da safrTxis<br />
Semcveli mimarTulebebis kuTxiT,<br />
sadac normebi unda iyos daculi.<br />
ra Tqma unda, inspeqcia<br />
mainc ar iqneba imis garanti, rom<br />
darRvevebis prevencia moxdes,<br />
Tu TviTon kompaniaSi maRal doneze<br />
ar avida normebi. amitom amas<br />
sWirdeba kampaniac, saganmana-<br />
Tleblo sakiTxebze muSaobac da,<br />
Sesabamisad, SeiZleba, kanonic gamkacrdes.<br />
marto Sromis inspeqciis<br />
SemoReba, romelic yvela jixurSi,<br />
afTiaqSi, restoranSi, maRaziasa<br />
da skolaSi Seixedavs, da<br />
imis ufleba eqneba, rom isini daajarimos,<br />
sanqciebi daados, ar mimaCnia<br />
sworad, magram iq, sadac<br />
Saxtebia, metro, transporti Tu<br />
sxva, sadac momatebuli safrTxea<br />
dasaqmebulebis dazaralebis,<br />
iq SeiZleba.<br />
meore Temaa swori ekonomikuri<br />
ganviTareba qveyanaSi da siRaribis<br />
Semcireba: roca adamiani<br />
dausaqmebelia, is yvelanair samsaxurs<br />
Tanxmdeba da damsaqmebelic<br />
iaf samuSaos sTavazobs.<br />
bevr mSeneblobaze minaxavs, rom<br />
dgas xalxi me-8, me-15 sarTulze,<br />
Tundac me-3 an me-4 sarTulze,<br />
gadavardnis pirzea da arc Rvedi<br />
aqvs, arc usafrTxoebis qamari,<br />
Cafxuti _ am sferoSi qaosi<br />
namdvilad aris da wesebic ar<br />
icvleba.<br />
2006 wlis Semdeg, 2011-2012<br />
wlamde, seriozuli sainvesticio<br />
interesebi iyo saqarTveloSi,<br />
amas Tavisufali bazaric uwyobda<br />
xels, ra Tqma unda, Semdegac,<br />
roca axali xelisufleba movida,<br />
maT hqondaT gancxadeba, rom<br />
Sromis kodeqsi monuri iyo da a.<br />
S., Tumca mere, roca detaluri<br />
ganxilvebi wavida, aRmoCnda, rom<br />
mTlad isec ar aris, rogorc egonaT<br />
da erTaderTi, rac mniSvnelovani<br />
Seicvala isaa, rom gan-<br />
Tavisuflebisas unda arsebobdes<br />
mizezi da Tu amas dasaqmebuli<br />
moiTxovs, unda mieces. mniSvnelovani<br />
Temaa swored biznesisa da<br />
damsaqmeblebis, biznesmenebisa da<br />
investorebis damokidebuleba<br />
aseT sakiTxebTan. principSi, es<br />
maTTvis damatebiTi tvirTia.<br />
Tavis mxriv, Tu SromiT inspeqtorsac<br />
unda, rom ganusazRvreli<br />
uflebebi hqondes ise, rom<br />
rac unda, is daketos da daajarimos<br />
da amaze<br />
iqneba maTi xelfasi<br />
damokidebuli,<br />
ra Tqma unda, isinic<br />
orientirebulebi<br />
iqnebian,<br />
rom rac SeiZleba<br />
meti jarima<br />
gamoweron.<br />
komitetSi<br />
levan JorJoliani<br />
jer aqtiuri ganxilva sakanonmdeblo<br />
kuTxiT araa, Tumca diskusiebi<br />
iyo da vfiqrob, rom Cemi<br />
kolegebis umetesoba SesaZlebelia,<br />
am azrs iziarebdes. ideologiuri<br />
gansxvavebebic aris, memarcxeneebic<br />
arian, romlebic amboben,<br />
rom xelisuflebis roli<br />
yvelaferSi unda Candes, unda<br />
iyos mkacri sanqciebi, Sromis inspeqcia<br />
da a. S. Sromis inspeqciis<br />
gareSec SeiZleba sanqciebi arsebobdes<br />
da mas SeiZleba, umeteswilad,<br />
sarekomendacio xasiaTi<br />
hqondes da meti ufleba safrTxis<br />
Semcveli samsxaurebis<br />
mimarT. nebismieri sakiTxi unda<br />
gvesmodes ase: araferi dgas adamianis<br />
sicocxlesa da janmrTelobaze<br />
maRla, magram, amave<br />
dros, roca Sromaze vsaubrobT,<br />
jer samuSao adgilebi unda arsebobdes<br />
da ise ar unda gadaixaros<br />
saswori, rom Zalian mkacrma<br />
wesebma Seaferxos muSaoba.<br />
akaki comaia<br />
N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.<br />
`male damtkicdeba Sromis inspeqciis<br />
struqtura, Sesabamisad es aris ukve erTi<br />
nabiji gadadgmuli imisken, rom Sromis<br />
inspeqciis institucionalizacia ufro farTo<br />
masStabze gadavides. Tumca weliwadnaxevari<br />
iyo aucilebeli imisTvis, rom Sromis<br />
inspeqtorebs gamocdileba mieRoT. profesia<br />
Sromis inspeqtori saqarTveloSi ar arsebobs.<br />
300-mde obieqti gvaqvs Semowmebuli erTi wlis<br />
manZilze 25 inspeqtoris meSveobiT. am etapze<br />
kompaniebs rekomendaciebs vaZlevT<br />
usafrTxoebasTan dakavSirebiT da Semdeg<br />
ganmeorebiT monitorings vakeTebT, vnaxulobT<br />
gaiTvaliswines Tu ara. srulyofili<br />
inspeqciis Seqmna weliwadnaxevris ganmavlobaSi<br />
maSin, roca 9-wliani wyveta iyo, SeuZlebelia.<br />
Tumca 2017 wels inspeqciasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sakmaod pozitiur Zvrebs vgegmavT~<br />
denadaa daculi am biznesSi is<br />
standartebi, romelsac is konkretuli<br />
inspeqtori amowmebs.<br />
rogorc wesi, am inspeqcias, saboloo<br />
jamSi, ufro politikuri<br />
datvirTva aqvs xolme, vidre realurad<br />
is axorcielebs imas, rac<br />
misi Camoyalibebis procesSia<br />
Cafiqrebuli, kerZod, yovelTvis<br />
Cndeba imis riski, rom garkveuli<br />
mizezebis, raime interesis, piradi<br />
konfliqtis, an sxva mizezis<br />
gamo es inspeqcia, didi albaTobiT,<br />
SeiZleba damatebiTi meqanizmi<br />
gaxdes, rom konkretuli biznesisTvis<br />
rTuli mdgomareoba<br />
Seiqmnas, raTa sxva biznesebi Caayenos<br />
privilegirebul mdgomareobaSi;<br />
es auaresebs sainvesticio<br />
garemos.<br />
meore: uaryofiT gavlenas<br />
axdens ekonomikur ganviTarebaze,<br />
damatebiTi saagento niSnavs damatebiT<br />
xarjebs, xSirad ver xerxdeba<br />
am xarjis daTvla da ar<br />
aris sargebeli, xarjTan SedarebiT.<br />
Sesabamisad, Cveulebrivi adamianebi<br />
ver vxvdebiT, Tu ra gvijdeba<br />
es servisi da ra sargebels<br />
viRebT aqedan.<br />
Semdegi faqtori: izrdeba korufciis<br />
albaToba, radgan qmediT<br />
Sromis inspeqcias SeuZlia<br />
Seamowmos nebismieri sawarmo da<br />
mis xelSia dajarimebisa Tu sxva<br />
meTodi. vTqvaT, sawarmom unda<br />
gadaixados konkretuli Tanxa,<br />
rom inspeqciam daweros kargi daskvna,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, es organizacia<br />
arRvevs am standartebs,<br />
Tu ara. Sesabamisad, Sromis inspeqcia<br />
ar aris sasamarTlo instancia,<br />
romelic uangarod emsaxureba<br />
sazogadoebas da ar gaaCnia<br />
interesebi. TavisTavad, iq<br />
momuSave adamianebs undaT miiRon<br />
sargebeli da metad gamdidrdnen.<br />
amdenad, albaToba imisa,<br />
rom es gamoiwvevs uaryofiT<br />
Sedegebs biznesze da biznesgaremos<br />
gaauaresebs, Zalian maRlaia.<br />
xolo is, rom organizaciebi Tanamedrove<br />
standartebis Sesabamisad<br />
daiwyeben biznessaqmianobas da<br />
yvela detals gaiTvaliswineben,<br />
rac mniSvnelovnad Seamcirebs<br />
sawarmoo obieqtze adamianebis<br />
dazianebis faqtorebs, amis alba-<br />
Toba, praqtikulad, nuls uaxlovdeba,<br />
es empiriuli kvlevebi-<br />
Tac dasturdeba. es arafrismomcemi<br />
meqanizmia, politikuri instrumenti,<br />
ufro poopulisturi,<br />
rom adamianebis guli da ganwyobebi<br />
momavalSi xelisufleba-<br />
Si mosavlelad gamoiyenon.<br />
arsebobs SesaniSnavi fraza:<br />
„Tavisufleba niSnavs pasuxismgeblobas”.<br />
Sesabamisad, vTqvaT, firma,<br />
romelic asaqmebs adamianebs,<br />
iRebs pasuxismgeblobas, rom adamianebi<br />
amuSaos usafrTxo garemoSi<br />
da Seqmnas Sesabamisi pirobebi<br />
da Tu raime problemaa, mtkicebis<br />
tvirTic, sasamarTloSi, ra<br />
Tqma unda, firmas unda daawves,<br />
vinc pasuxismgeblobas iRebs, rom<br />
konkretuli piri daasaqmos.<br />
rodesac mtkicebis tvirTi<br />
iTmoba firmis mxareze da ara im<br />
adamianebis, romlebic dazaraldebian,<br />
vTqvaT, rac Saxtis SemTxvevaSi<br />
moxda, mtkicebis tvirTi<br />
Tu iqneba sawarmoze, kanoniT<br />
`roca sasamarTlo procesi aris qmediTi<br />
da firmasa da dasaqmebuls Soris<br />
kontraqtia, romelsac sasamarTlo ixilavs<br />
swrafad, efeqtianad, drois gawelvis<br />
gareSe, amaze kargi meqanizmi adamianis<br />
dacvisa jer kacobriobas ar moufiqrebia,<br />
veranairi Sromis inspeqcia an sxva<br />
saagento, romelic saxelmwifos saxeliT<br />
moqmedebs, ver gadawonis imas, rac,<br />
zogadad, Tavisufal sazogadoebas da<br />
bazars SeuZlia moutanos~<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli sanqciebi unda<br />
daekisros im SemTxvevaSi, Tu sawarmo<br />
amis sawinaaRmdegos ar daasabuTebs,<br />
Tu sawarmo daasabu-<br />
Tebs, bunebrivia, rom gamarTldeba<br />
da Tu ase ver moxda (rasakvirvelia,<br />
aq unda iyos vadebi), am<br />
SemTxvevaSi avtomaturad Sesabamisi<br />
sanqciebi daekisreba, sawarmosTvis<br />
ki motivacia iqneba, rom<br />
yvela perimetrze hqondes dayenebuli<br />
videokamerebi, yvelagan<br />
usafTxoebis normebi hqondes, an<br />
daazRvios Tavisi muSaxeli, radgan<br />
mtkicebis tvirTi modis sawarmoze<br />
da ara adamianze, romelic<br />
dazaralda da sasamarTlo<br />
procesiT mougos firmas procesi.<br />
roca sasamarTlo procesi<br />
aris qmediTi da firmasa da dasaqmebuls<br />
Soris kontraqtia, romelsac<br />
sasamarTlo ixilavs<br />
swrafad, efeqtianad, drois gawelvis<br />
gareSe, amaze kargi meqanizmi<br />
adamianis dacvisa jer kacobriobas<br />
ar moufiqrebia, veranairi<br />
Sromis inspeqcia an sxva saagento,<br />
romelic saxelmwifos saxeliT<br />
moqmedebs, ver gadawonis<br />
imas, rac, zogadad, Tavisufal<br />
sazogadoebas da bazars SeuZlia<br />
moutanos.<br />
SegaxsenebT: Sromis inspeqcia<br />
2006-dan 2015 wlamde realurad<br />
ar arsebobda, rogorc instituti.<br />
daaxloebiT weliwadnaxevaria,<br />
rac saministroSi departamentis<br />
saxe miiRo, manamde ki sapilote<br />
programas warmoadgenda.<br />
levan JorJoliani _ jan-<br />
dacvis saministros Sromis<br />
pirobebis inspeqtirebis depar-<br />
tamentis ufrosi:<br />
_ male damtkicdeba Sromis inspeqciis<br />
struqtura, Sesabamisad<br />
es aris ukve erTi nabiji gadadgmuli<br />
imisken, rom Sromis inspeqciis<br />
institucionalizacia<br />
ufro farTo masStabze gadavides.<br />
Tumca weliwadnaxevari iyo<br />
aucilebeli imisTvis, rom Sromis<br />
inspeqtorebs gamocdileba mieRoT.<br />
profesia Sromis inspeqtori<br />
saqarTveloSi ar arsebobs.<br />
300-mde obieqti gvaqvs Semowmebuli<br />
erTi wlis manZilze 25 inspeqtoris<br />
meSveobiT. am etapze kompaniebs<br />
rekomendaciebs vaZlevT<br />
usafrTxoebasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
da Semdeg ganmeorebiT monitorings<br />
vakeTebT, vnaxulobT gaiTvaliswines<br />
Tu ara. srulyofili<br />
inspeqciis Seqmna weliwadnaxevris<br />
ganmavlobaSi maSin, roca 9-wliani<br />
wyveta iyo, SeuZlebelia. Tumca<br />
2017 wels inspeqciasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT sakmaod pozitiur Zvrebs<br />
vgegmavT.<br />
EMC-is monacemebiT, 2011-16<br />
wlebSi saqarTveloSi samuSaos<br />
Sesrulebis adgilze 270 adamiani<br />
daiRupa, 776 ki daSavda. mxolod<br />
2016 wels warmoebaSi momxdari<br />
ubeduri SemTxvevis Sed-<br />
egad daiRupa 58 da daSavda 85<br />
dasaqmebuli.<br />
sainteresoa, ras avirCevT, _<br />
dasaqmebulebis usafrTxoebas,<br />
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is gaxda, rom xelisuflebaSi axal mosul klanebs daupirispir-<br />
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da wina dReebSi saxelmwifo jildoze wardgenili daapatimres.<br />
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2003 wlamde daiwyo da Semdeg gagrZelda<br />
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oqruaSvils, guburnator miSa<br />
qarels da maT klans (teraSvilebi<br />
da a. S.) vupirispirdebodi.<br />
Sida qarTlSi, gorSi sagadasaxado<br />
samsaxurSi iuridiuli samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi viyavi; paralelurad,<br />
goris saxelmwifo universitetSi<br />
samarTalmcodneobis<br />
leqciebs vkiTxulobdi.<br />
pirveli sajaro moxele viyavi,<br />
romelic pirdapir davupirispirdi<br />
aRniSnul saxelisuflebo<br />
klans im aRviraxsnilobisa da<br />
araadekvaturobis gamo, rac Sida<br />
qarTlSi xdeboda. yvelafers<br />
detalurad aRar CamovTvli, mxolod<br />
erT magaliTs moviyvan:<br />
rodesac ergneTis bazrobas CaquCiT<br />
angrevdnen, me vuTxari, _<br />
Tqven sulelebi xom ar xarT, ras<br />
akeTebT?! wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
aRdgenil urTierTobas ase er-<br />
Ti xelis mosmiT angrevT, amiT<br />
mdgomareoba xom isev gairyvneba,<br />
Cven Soris isev didi Robe aRimarTeba<br />
da amas Tqven Segnebulad<br />
akeTebT-meTqi?!<br />
es erT-erTi mTavari mizezi<br />
iyo, ris gamoc maT win aRvudeqi.<br />
aRarafers vambob imaze, rom<br />
qonebis CamorTmeva undodaT da<br />
me araferze xeli ar movawere.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom ori dRiT<br />
adre, ministris brZanebiT, damawinaures,<br />
arsebul viTarebaze<br />
protestis niSnad Tanamdebobidan<br />
gadavdeqi, _ me TqvenTan<br />
araferi gamomiva-meTqi.<br />
mogexsenebaT, im periodis-<br />
Tvis „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />
aRzevebuli iyo da frTebs Slida,<br />
magram merCivna. devnili vyofiliyavi,<br />
vidre maTi xelmomweri<br />
da mxardamWeri im ukanonobebSi,<br />
rac SemdgomSi ganaxorcieles.<br />
_ mere rogor gagrZelda<br />
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xuTi weli faxradTan da sxvebTan<br />
erT sakanSi gamatarebines. me<br />
amaze dawvrilebiT aRar movyvebi,<br />
TviT e. w. cixis buntis monawile<br />
var. aravin ifiqros, rom es<br />
„bunti” patimrebma moawyves, _<br />
ara, pirdapir gamiznuli moqmedeba<br />
iyo, rac Tqvens gazeTSic<br />
cota adre avsaxe. erTs vityvi,<br />
rom rodesac viZinebdiT, ar vicodiT,<br />
gaviRviZebdiT Tu ara.<br />
_ Tavis droze, ratom dagap-<br />
atimres, konkretuli mizezi ra<br />
iyo?<br />
_ dapatimrebis motivad uflebamosilebis<br />
borotad gamoyeneba<br />
daasaxeles. sinamdvileSi,<br />
Tanamdebobidan swored protestis<br />
niSnad gadavdeqi, amitom aq<br />
wamyvani politikuri motivacia<br />
iyo.<br />
rogorc aRvniSne, 2004-Si pirveli<br />
viyavi, vinc am motiviT<br />
Tanamdebobidan gadavdeqi, patimrobidan<br />
ki 2013 wels gavTavisufldi.<br />
mokled, Cemi dapatimrebis<br />
formaluri mizezi uflebamosilebis<br />
borotad gamoyeneba<br />
gaxda.<br />
_ konkretulad?<br />
_ medavebodnen, Tu ratom vasrulebdi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebebs.<br />
_ ra gadawyvetilebebzea<br />
saubari?<br />
_ sagadasaxados iuridiuli<br />
samsaxuris ufrosi viyavi, Sesabamisad,<br />
sasamarTloebSi saqmeebis<br />
warmoeba Cemi prerogativa<br />
iyo; aseve misi aRsrulebac Cems<br />
kompetenciaSi Sedioda. es mxolod<br />
sagadasaxado mimarTulebas<br />
exeboda.<br />
saxelmwifo imas medaveboda,<br />
rom ratom aRasrule sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebao. ai, amdenad<br />
paradoqsuli viTareba iyo<br />
Seqmnili.<br />
_ ra gadawyvetilebebi aRas-<br />
ruleT?<br />
_ vTqvaT, ama Tu im firmas<br />
aleqsi miqelaSvili:<br />
`an gamamtyuneT,<br />
an miTxariT, rom<br />
udanaSaulo var~<br />
saxelmwifo biujetis sasargeblod<br />
garkveuli Tanxis gadaxda<br />
daekisra, misi qoneba yadaRdeboda<br />
da auqcionze midioda. anu<br />
ratom moxda aRniSnuli gdawyvetilebis<br />
aRsrulebao?! _ amaze<br />
medavebodnen.<br />
sagulisxmoa, rom amiT saxelmwifo<br />
sakuTar Tavs daupirispirda,<br />
radgan maT sxva motivacia<br />
ar gaaCndaT. amasTan, Tavidan,<br />
TiTqmis, yvela braldeba wamiyenes,<br />
_ miTviseba da gamoZalvac.<br />
magram mere roca dainaxes, rom<br />
srul absurds medavebodnen, Tanxis<br />
miTvisebac gamomiricxes (naxes,<br />
rom Tanxebi bankSi Setanili<br />
iyo) da, rasakvirvelia, gamoZalvac.<br />
aseve, magaliTad, erT-erTi<br />
pirovneba gamoiyenes da ganacxadebines,<br />
rom me, TiTqosda, Tanxas<br />
vZalavdi. dokumenturad davudasture,<br />
rom es pirovneba<br />
araTu CemTan ar gamocxadebula,<br />
aramed finansur policiazec ki<br />
gadacemuli maqvs, rom, iqneb,<br />
iZulebiT warmoadginoT-meTqi.<br />
anu, sinamdvileSi, es adamiani nanaxic<br />
ar myavda da romel gamoZalvaze<br />
mesaubrebodnen?<br />
faqtobrivad, dokumentaciis<br />
realizatori viyavi, _ es dokumentacia<br />
Semodioda, vswavlobdi<br />
da Sesabamis reagirebas vaZlevdi.<br />
bolos braldebad uflebamosilebis<br />
borotad gamoyeneba<br />
damrCa.<br />
_ romelma sasamarTlom mo-<br />
gisajaT?<br />
_ Tavidan goris raionulma<br />
sasamarTlom, Semdgom es, ra<br />
Tqma unda, saapelacioSi gasa-<br />
Civrda.<br />
_ gorma ramdeni mogisajaT?<br />
_ goris sasamarTlom maSin<br />
cxra weli momisaja, Semdeg saapelacioSi<br />
naxes, rom gamoZalvis<br />
braldeba absoluturad usafuZvlo<br />
iyo...<br />
aqve ganvmartav, rom goris<br />
sasamarTlom wardgenili saSineli<br />
braldebebidan miTvisebis<br />
nawilSic ki gamamarTla. saapelaciom,<br />
Tavis mxriv, gamoZalvis<br />
muxli momixsna da darCa is,<br />
razedac ukve mogaxseneT.<br />
yvelgan xedavdnen, rom saqme-<br />
Si sruli absurduloba iyo.<br />
imasac xvdebodnen, rom me ar<br />
gavCerdebodi.<br />
saapelaciom am gamoZalvis<br />
muxlis moxsnis Semdeg sasjels<br />
6 Tve momaklo da rvaweliwadnaxevari<br />
damitova. Semdeg raRac<br />
150 aTass medavebodnen da uzenaesma<br />
sasamarTlom esec momixsna.<br />
mxolod samsaxurebrivi uflebamosilebis<br />
borotad gamoyeneba<br />
damrCa, romelic, ra Tqma<br />
unda, strasburgis sasamarTlo-<br />
Si gavasaCivreT.<br />
mokled, uzenaesma sasamarTlom<br />
rvawelnaxevriani sasjeli<br />
ucvlelad ZalaSi datova. Tavidan<br />
Tbilisis mexuTe sapyrobileSi<br />
viyavi, Semdeg iqidan, buntisSemdgom,<br />
ramdenime TveSi (patimrebma<br />
erTmaneTi gadavarCineT,<br />
masobrivi Jletis gamowveva<br />
da amiT sazogadoebis daSineba<br />
surdaT, amas grkveuli doziT<br />
miaRwies kidec) 5 wliT (Tu ar<br />
vcdebi, 2011 wlamde) pirvel sapyrobileSi<br />
gadamiyvanes, sadac,<br />
ubralod, araadamianur pirobeb-<br />
Si viyavi.<br />
_ ratom iyo araadamianuri<br />
pirobebi?<br />
_ elementarulad, imas getyviT,<br />
rom im periodSi iq saxalxo<br />
damcvelic ki ver Semodioda; sa-<br />
Sineli suni idga. iq adamiani ver<br />
Zlebda da Cven gavZeliT. am periodSi<br />
me da Cems megobars,<br />
faxrad Tanirgulievs, sasamarTlo<br />
baJis gadaxdas gvedavebodnen.<br />
_ baJs rogor gadavixdiT,<br />
cixeSi vsxedvarT-meTqi.<br />
am dros saxalxo damcvelic<br />
absoluturad yuradRebas ar<br />
gvaqcevda. warmoidgineT, 50 kaci<br />
rom icxovrebs raRac aT kvadratul<br />
metrze. es xom araadamianuri<br />
damokidebulebaa, meti ara-<br />
24<br />
mixeil qareli<br />
irakli oqruaSvili<br />
`vfiqrob, biZina<br />
ivaniSvili<br />
oqruaSvils piradad<br />
lobirebs. amas<br />
aSkarad vxedav~<br />
24 N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.
feri. saWmelze, moqcevaze da a.<br />
S. xom saubaric zedmetia.<br />
_ ramdenwliani sasjeli<br />
moixadeT?<br />
_ me zustad 7 weli movixade<br />
da 2013 wlis 22 ianvars cixidan<br />
amnistiis safuZvelze gamovedi.<br />
manamde faxrad TanirgulievTan<br />
erTad vijeqiT da Cveni uflebebisTvis<br />
vibrZodiT. Cven marto<br />
sakuTari TavisTvis ki ara, sxva<br />
patimrebisTvisac vibrZodiT.<br />
uamravi sakiTxi iyo, sadac adamianebi<br />
Cvens Tanadgomas saWiroebdnen.<br />
aravis arafers vuTmobdiT.<br />
davebis sagnad vxdidiT,<br />
SimSilobis procesebi mimdinareobda,<br />
ase Tu ise, raRac Sedegs<br />
vaRwevdiT, rom sakuTari Tavi da<br />
erTmaneTi, rogorme, gagvetana.<br />
Sedegs vaRwevdiT im TvalsazrisiT,<br />
rom raRacebs, elementarulad,<br />
ufro frTxilad ekidebodnen,<br />
cota gveridebodnen mainc.<br />
_ strasburgis sasamarTlo-<br />
Si rodis iCivleT?<br />
_ 2008 wlis 8 agvistos Tavad<br />
Tea wulukians Cveni saqme warmoebaSi<br />
aqvs miRebuli. _ darRvevebia,<br />
magram, bodiSi, pasuxs ver<br />
getyviTo. veubnebi, _ an gamamtyuneT,<br />
damnaSve xar, an miTxariT,<br />
udanaSulo xaro. ver meubnebian<br />
da ratom, _ mxolod erTi gadawyvetileba<br />
arsebobs, romliTac<br />
gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni damidgines.<br />
magram, amave dros, igive<br />
saqmeebze arsebobs uamravi Cem<br />
sasargeblod miRebuli sasamarTlos<br />
kanonier ZalaSi Sesuli<br />
gadawyvetileba, amitom veubnebi,<br />
_ maSin an es erTi unda gauqmdes,<br />
an meore-meTqi.<br />
xom ar SeiZleba, es Cem sasargeblod<br />
metyvelebdes da meore<br />
_ sazianod? rodesac meubnebian,<br />
rom ama da am firmis saqmeze<br />
uflebamosileba borotad gamoiyeneo,<br />
amave dros, sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebebi maqvs, sadac<br />
pirdapir miweria, rom aleqsi<br />
miqelaSvili absoluturd marTlzomierad<br />
moqmedebda (es<br />
moqmedeba kanonmdeblobas eqvemdebarebodao).<br />
maSin es gadawyvetilebac<br />
unda gauqmdes.<br />
mokled, verc strasburgidan<br />
miviReT pasuxi. amnistiiT gamovedi<br />
da CemTvis sofelSi cxovrebis<br />
gagrZelebas vapirebdi.<br />
TqvenTan ramdenime statia gamovaqveyne,<br />
magram am wlebis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
visTanac ki urTier-<br />
Toba mqonia, lamis, yvela devnis<br />
obieqtad aqcies: Cemi ojaxis<br />
wevrebi, mSoblebi, megobari<br />
faxrad Tanirgulievi da a. S.<br />
amas 2012 wlis Semdeg periodze<br />
geubnebiT, wina reJimze<br />
aRar vsaubrob. amitom me ar gamovricxav,<br />
rom erT-erTi devnis<br />
obieqti eliso kilaZec gaxda,<br />
radgan me statiebs, ZiriTadad,<br />
„qronika+”-Si vaqveynebdi. es adamiani<br />
gverdiT medga da gamoricxuli<br />
ar aris, rom misi Svilis<br />
mimarT igive swored imitom ganxorcielda,<br />
rom amiT mec Semimciron<br />
sivrce Cemi mosazrebebis<br />
gamosaqveyneblad, raTa, elementaruli,<br />
tribuna aRar mqondes<br />
da a. S.<br />
_ axloblebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
ra SemTxvevebi gqondaT?<br />
_ mSoblebs, dedmamiSvilebs<br />
SeeqmnaT problemebi. magaliTad,<br />
Cemi da aiZules, rom oqruaSvilis<br />
partiaSi Sesuliyo, rodesac<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi erTad vibrZodiT.<br />
anu Sida qarTlSi isev<br />
oqruaSvilisTvis arenis daTmoba<br />
surdaT. faxrad Tanirgulievs<br />
aiZuleben, adre risTvisac<br />
ibrZodi, uaryavio da a. S. ufrosma<br />
Zmam policias mimarTa, nuli<br />
reagirebaa.<br />
aris aseTi, goris raionis sofel<br />
zeRduleTis policia, pirdapir<br />
Cem izolirebaze arian gadasulebi.<br />
Cems das, romelsac<br />
ojaxi, oTxi Svili hyavs, erCian,<br />
Tu ratom arian CemTan karg<br />
urTierTobaSi da Cemze saCivrebs<br />
ratom ar weren. sul policiaSi<br />
mibareben.<br />
_ dRes ras gerCian?<br />
_ am xelisuflebis mxardaWera<br />
Cemi Secdoma iyo. erT weliwadSi<br />
davrwmundi, rom rasac<br />
laparakobdnen, yvelafers sawinaaRmdegos<br />
akeTebdnen. srul ekonomikur<br />
vakuumSi moqceva surdaT,<br />
rom aranairad xelis ganZrevis<br />
saSualeba ar mqonoda. elementarulad,<br />
Cems sofel berSueTSi<br />
sakuTari nakveTis movlis<br />
saSualebas ar maZlevdnen.<br />
Cems moxuc mSoblebs xom ar-<br />
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`TqvenTan ramdenime statia gamovaqveyne, magram am wlebis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
visTanac ki urTierToba mqonia, lamis, yvela devnis obieqtad aqcies: Cemi<br />
ojaxis wevrebi, mSoblebi, megobari faxrad Tanirgulievi da a. S. amas 2012<br />
wlis Semdeg periodze geubnebiT, wina reJimze aRar vsaubrob. amitom me ar<br />
gamovricxav, rom erT-erTi devnis obieqti eliso kilaZec gaxda, radgan me<br />
statiebs, ZiriTadad, `qronika+~-Si vaqveynebdi. es adamiani gverdiT medga da<br />
gamoricxuli ar aris, rom misi Svilis mimarT igive swored imitom<br />
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gamosaqveyneblad, raTa, elementaruli, tribuna aRar mqondes~<br />
aerTxel daawerines gancxadeba<br />
Cemi meuRlis winaaRmdeg. mere<br />
ufrosma Zmam mimarTa, _ bolos<br />
da bolos, Cemi Zmisgan ra gindaT,<br />
oqruaSvils unda gadaayoloTo?<br />
albaT, Cemi Sexedulebebis<br />
gamo merCian. Cemi suli da<br />
guli saqarTveloa da cxinval-<br />
Si Tu Cavedi, isev Cems os ZmebTan<br />
gadavedi.<br />
_ ratom CaxvediT?<br />
_ iqneb, maTi daxmarebiT rame<br />
Sedegi mimeRo da, sxvaTa Soris,<br />
mivaRwie kidec. faxrad Tanirgulievis<br />
winaswari patimrobidan<br />
ganTavisuflebis saqmes vgulisxmob.<br />
profesiiT iuristi ris<br />
vai-vaglaxiT vaRwevdi samarTals<br />
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glexi ra mdgomareobaSi iqneba am<br />
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mokled, adgilobriv arCevnebSi<br />
vmonawileobdi da Cemi dakaveba<br />
undodaT. 2014 wlis ar-<br />
Cevnebzea saubari. ukve arCevnebis<br />
damTavrebas elodebodnen, an<br />
iaraRs Camidebdnen, an _ narkotiks...<br />
rogorc upartio, arCevnebSi<br />
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arCevnebSi Cemi programiT miviRe<br />
monawileoba, davmarcxdi da<br />
ukve vicodi, rom ueWvelad damakavebdnen.<br />
gansakuTrebuli mizezi<br />
ki Tanirgulievis saqme iyo.<br />
aseve erTaderTi opoziciuri<br />
kandidati viyavi, vinc marto sityvebiT<br />
ki ara, mtkicebulebebiT<br />
vadasturebdi, rom qalaqma oqruaSvili<br />
xelmeored ar unda<br />
miiRos. mas undoda es, darwmunebuli<br />
var, welsac moundeba da<br />
isev davupirispirdebi.<br />
vfiqrob, biZina ivaniSvili oqruaSvils<br />
piradad lobirebs.<br />
amas aSkarad vxedav.<br />
_ cxinvalSi ra gaakeTeT?<br />
_ JurnalistebTan Sexvedra<br />
moviTxove, momiyvanes da im<br />
drois garemoebebze visaubre.<br />
_ ra Sedegi miiReT?<br />
_ xelisufleba iZulebuli<br />
gavxadeT, rom faxradis saqmeze<br />
ukve gamamarTlebeli gadawyvetileba<br />
mieRo. amis Semdeg osebma<br />
oficialurad qarTul mxares<br />
gadmomces. es ergneTze moxda.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, arsad gamaSuqes. ar<br />
axmaureben da aseve mekiTxebian,<br />
_ iqiT osebma ratom ar dagajarimeso?<br />
roca Seni qveynis spec-<br />
samsaxuri imas gedaveba, ratom<br />
ar gajarimebeno, es ukve sasaciloa<br />
maSin, roca es Cveni ZirZveli<br />
kuTxea da iqac sakuTar miwaze<br />
gadavedi.<br />
imaze aRar vsaubrob, rom mikrZalavdnen,<br />
administraciul<br />
gadasasavlels aRar miuaxlovdebio.<br />
vuTxari, _ ramdenjerac<br />
momindeba, imdenjer mival-meTqi.<br />
_ os ZmebTan problemebi ar<br />
maqvs, mTavaria, kanons ar varRvev-meTqi.<br />
amis Semdeg garkveuli periodi<br />
Cems meuRles ukrZalavdnen,<br />
rom sofel berSueTSi asuliyo.<br />
bolos, ukve premier-ministrs<br />
mivwereT, Tu ratom ar pasuxoben<br />
Cvens dasmul kiTxvebze. es<br />
Cveni, Cemi da Tanirgulievis<br />
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droze, wagvarTves?<br />
_ Tqven ra qoneba wagarTves?<br />
_ erTi ubralo saxli mqonda<br />
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laradac ar Sefasdeboda. cixe-<br />
Si rom Sevedi da iqidan gamovedi,<br />
Cemi saxl-kari aRar damxvda.<br />
movikiTxe da aRmoCnda, rom saxelisuflebo<br />
klanis davalebiT<br />
moxda, Tu ar vici, zustad ra<br />
iyo, faqtia, rom is bina jer er-<br />
Tze, xolo mere ukve sxvaze (anu<br />
mesame pirze) gadaformebulia.<br />
magram me arc xeli momiweria,<br />
arc aravisze Tanxmoba gamicia,<br />
dokumentacia maqvs, rom saxli<br />
oficialurad Cemia. dResac<br />
gaognebuli var, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
ra da rogor gaakeTes. erTi<br />
ubralo adamiani viyavi da mxolod<br />
eg saxli mqonda, meti araferi.<br />
patimrobisas es saxlic<br />
wamarTves, romlis dabrunebazec<br />
dRemde aravis uzrunia.<br />
amitom dRes viTxov, rom Cven-<br />
Tan mimarTebiT elementaruli<br />
samarTlianoba aRadginon. zeRduleTSi<br />
Cems das, oTxi Svilis<br />
dedas, SeeSvan. policiasTan 50<br />
metrSi cxovrobs da saxlidan<br />
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amas Sen gamo miSvrebian, 33 weli<br />
mand vxcovrobdi da problemebi<br />
ar mqoniao, _ meubneba. Svilebisa<br />
da SviliSvilebis patronia.<br />
aseve Cems uwesieres mamas ra-<br />
Racebs aiZuleben. erTxel CemTan<br />
itira kidec, _ vaime, reebs<br />
makeTebineben, netav, cixidan ar<br />
gamosuliyavio. _ ra xdeba-meTqi?<br />
_ ra vqna, ase Tu ar moviqeci,<br />
danarCen Svilebs davkargavo,<br />
_ xuTi dedmamiSvili varT. magaliTad,<br />
pirobiTad, awerineben,<br />
rom aleqsim gamZarcvao. es „Zarcva”<br />
raSi gamoixateba, amas veRarafriT<br />
xsnian. mibareben policiaSi,<br />
ai, mamaSenma ase dawerao...<br />
amitom erT nabijsac ar davuTmob.<br />
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wlis 8 seqtembers premieris saxelze<br />
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dasjas, vinc wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ase ukanonod iqceoda.<br />
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msurs, piradad biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
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advokat giorgi maxaraZes es-<br />
aubreba:<br />
_ paraskevs sasamarTloSi<br />
Suamdgomloba davayeneT, rom<br />
mas ufleba moeca, qalaqis prokuraturaSi<br />
mimdinare meore<br />
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meore: cxadia, es udides gavlenas<br />
iqoniebs narkotikebis SeZena-Senaxvaze<br />
gavrcelebul<br />
srul sicrueze (prokuratura<br />
ambobs, rom es narkotikebi Cemi<br />
dacvis qveS myofma SeiZina, rac<br />
gamoZiebis mier gaxmovanebuli<br />
tyuilia).<br />
amitom es yvelaferi saqmeze<br />
did gavlenas iqoniebs.<br />
_ realurad, ra moxda am<br />
pirovnebasTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ Cemi dacvis qveS myofze informacias<br />
flobdnen, rom Ti-<br />
Tqos mas narkotikuli saSualeba<br />
hqonda. man aRniSna kidec,<br />
rom dainaxa Tu ara policiele-<br />
samarTaldamcveli organoebi<br />
amas TavisTvis Zalian kargad<br />
iyeneben konkretul adamianebTan<br />
mimarTebiT, e. w. kontrolis<br />
gansaxorcieleblad.<br />
es xom pirveli da meore msgavsi<br />
SemTxveva ar aris. lamis,<br />
yoveldRiurad gvesmis informacia<br />
morig CadebebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT.<br />
am dros Sinagan saqmeTa saministros<br />
oficialuri pozicia<br />
is aris, rom Cadebebi ar xdeba,<br />
Cven yvelas raRacebi gvesizmreba<br />
da am qveyanaSi, lamis, ar<br />
vcxovrobT.<br />
_ ra Zalebi monawileobdnen<br />
gan miiRos dacemisas dazianeba?!<br />
es xom warmoudgeneli ambavia?!<br />
_ axla rogoria misi janm-<br />
rTelobis mdgomareoba?<br />
_ amJamad SoTa pakeliani<br />
Tavs kargad grZnobs.<br />
_ saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sasamarTloze ra imedebs am-<br />
yarebT?<br />
_ sasamarTlos iqiT imedebi<br />
aRar aris, amitom mTel imedebs<br />
swored sasamarTlo xelisuflebaze<br />
vamyarebT. veliT, rom<br />
sasamarTlo pakelianis saqmeze<br />
obieqtur gadawyvetilebas mii-<br />
Rebs. mosamarTlis mier paras-<br />
sasamarTlom SoTa<br />
pakelianis saqmeze<br />
dacvis Suamdgomloba<br />
SoTa pakeliani<br />
daakmayofila<br />
gamoZiebis masalebidan (policielebis<br />
mxridan uflebamosilebis<br />
gadametebis faqtze)<br />
amogveRo videofiri, romelic<br />
saqmeze gamoZiebas aqvs.<br />
_ amis saWiroeba ratom dad-<br />
ga?<br />
_ rodesac Cven Tavdapirvelad<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros<br />
Sesabamis samsaxurs vedeofiris<br />
amoRebis Taobaze mivmarTeT,<br />
maSin gviTxres, rom aRniSnuli<br />
videofiri ukve aRar<br />
iyo, anu TiTqosda es kadrebi<br />
aRar arsebobda.<br />
Sesabamisad, informacia<br />
gvqonda, rom policielebis<br />
mxridan uflebamosilebis gadametebis<br />
faqtze gamoZiebas<br />
(romelic qalaqis prokuraturaSi<br />
mimdinareobs) aRniSnuli<br />
videofirebi hqonda da swored<br />
es Suamdgomloba davayeneT sasamarTlo<br />
sxdomaze, rom CvenTvis<br />
ufleba moecaT, ganCinebiT<br />
amogveRo es videokadrebi, rac<br />
dagvikmayofiles kidec.<br />
sasamarTlom miiCnia, rom gamoTxovili<br />
informacia, SesaZloa,<br />
pirdapir ukavSirdebodes<br />
gansaxilvel sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmis garemoebebs da rom<br />
SesaZloa, mniSvnelovani aRmoC-<br />
26<br />
ndes marTlmsajulebisTvis,<br />
risi gaTvaliswinebiTac dacvis<br />
mxaris Suamdgomloba unda dakmayofildes.<br />
ukve am dReebSi mivmarTavT<br />
Tbilisis prokuraturas, raTa<br />
ganCinebis safuZvelze aRniSnuli<br />
videokadrebi gadmogvces.<br />
_ aq, konkretulad, romel<br />
videokadrebzea saubari, saq-<br />
mis romel epizodze?<br />
_ videofirebi exeba isanisamgoris<br />
sammarTvelos meSvide<br />
ganyofilebaSi damontaJebul<br />
videokamerebs, _ es aris foie,<br />
marjvena mxares Sesasvlelidan<br />
sagamoZiebo oTaxi, derefani da<br />
mimdebare perimetri.<br />
_ Tqveni monacemebiT, re-<br />
alurad, iq ra xdeboda?<br />
_ am videoTi dadasturdeba,<br />
rom dakavebisa da Cxrekis oqmi<br />
ise ar yofila Sedgenili, rogorc<br />
amas braldebis mxare acxadebs.<br />
amiT zusti miyvanis dro<br />
dafiqsirdeba.<br />
aseve yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
rac aris, aRniSnuli videokadrebiT<br />
Cemi dacvis qveS myofis<br />
mimarT ganxorcielebuli araadamianuri<br />
da damamcirebeli<br />
mopyroba dafiqsirdeba.<br />
Sesabamisad, es videofirebi<br />
am saqmeSi gadamwyveti mniSvnelobisaa.<br />
_ amas, mTlianobaSi, ra<br />
Sedegebi SeiZleba, mohyves?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, unda dadges<br />
aRniSnuli Tanamdebobis pirebis<br />
pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi.<br />
giorgi maxaraZe<br />
bi, SeWama es konkretuli narkotikuli<br />
saSualeba.<br />
Semdeg, roca is daakaves da<br />
maSinve ganyofilebaSi gadaiyvanes,<br />
cxadia, mas Tan ukve aRaraferi<br />
eqneboda. amitom TavianTi<br />
informacia rom gaemar-<br />
TlebinaT, Cemi dacvis qveS myofs<br />
aRniSnuli narkotiki Caudes,<br />
_ TiTqosda misgan e. w. bio<br />
amoiRes, rac realobas sruliad<br />
ar Seesabameba.<br />
amis Semdeg, roca am versiaze<br />
uars acxadebda da a. S., masze<br />
ukve fizikuri zemoqmedebac<br />
ganxorcielda. aq yvelaze saxifaTo<br />
da sagangaSo rac aris,<br />
TviTon pakeliani TanamSromlebs<br />
eubneboda, rom es e. w. bio<br />
didi odenobiT moxmarebuli<br />
hqonda da amitom samedicino<br />
daxmareba sWirdeboda.<br />
am fonze, sanam SoTa pakeliani<br />
policiis ganyofilebaSi<br />
komatozur mdgomareobamde ar<br />
miiyvanes, iqamde mas samedicino<br />
daxmarebaze aranairi wvdoma<br />
ar hqonia. swored es yvelaferi<br />
naTeli ilustraciaa im<br />
maxinji narkopolitikisa, romelic<br />
qveyanaSi gvaqvs.<br />
erTi mxriv, adamianebi saku-<br />
Tari janmrTelobiTa da sicocxliT<br />
riskaven, rom ganusaz-<br />
Rvreli, uazrod maRali, araadekvaturi<br />
sanqciebiT ar moxvdnen<br />
sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebulebebSi<br />
da, meore mxriv,<br />
dakavebulis winaaRmdeg am e. w.<br />
operaciaSi?<br />
_ damkavebeli pirebi iyvnen<br />
kasraZe da qitoSvili, romlebic,<br />
samwuxarod, saqmianobas<br />
dResac agrZeleben.<br />
_ policiis mxridan gancxadebaa,<br />
rom pakelianma da-<br />
zianebebi gaqcevisas da dace-<br />
misas miiRo, amaze rogoria<br />
Tqveni pozicia?<br />
_ gaqcevisas da dacemisas<br />
adamiani verafriT miiRebs ise-<br />
Ti xarisxis dazianebebs, rac<br />
Cemi dacvis qveS myofs saxeze<br />
aReniSneboda da es kadrebi mediiT<br />
(maT Soris, televiziebi-<br />
Tac) gavrcelda, aseve fotosuraTebi<br />
da a. S.<br />
axla Tqven Tavad SeafaseT,<br />
rogor SeiZleba mTel saxeze,<br />
marcxena, marjvena mxareze,<br />
Sublze, nikapze, cxvirze, yvel-<br />
`sasamarTlos iqiT imedebi aRar aris, amitom<br />
mTel imedebs swored sasamarTlo<br />
xelisuflebaze vamyarebT. veliT, rom<br />
sasamarTlo pakelianis saqmeze obieqtur<br />
gadawyvetilebas miiRebs. mosamarTlis mier<br />
paraskevs miRebulma gadawyvetilebamac es<br />
molodini, rasakvirvelia, gaamyara, rodesac<br />
Cveni Suamdgomlobis dakmayofilebis Taobaze<br />
samarTliani gadawyvetileba miiRo~<br />
kevs miRebulma gadawyvetilebamac<br />
es molodini, rasakvirvelia,<br />
gaamyara, rodesac Cveni<br />
Suamdgomlobis dakmayofilebis<br />
Taobaze samarTliani gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo.<br />
_ sabolood, rogori unda<br />
iyos sasamarTlo xelisufleb-<br />
is gadawyvetileba am saqmeze?<br />
_ SoTa pakelianis saqmesTan<br />
dakavSirebiT sasamarTlos obieqturi<br />
gadawyvetileba ornairi<br />
unda iyos: erTi, _ saqmeze<br />
mTlianad unda gamarTldes,<br />
rom man, TiTqos, ukanonod Sei-<br />
Zina da Seinaxa narkotikuli sa-<br />
Sualeba; meore mimarTuleba,<br />
romelic Tbilisis prokuraturaSi<br />
aris dawyebuli, _ uflebamosilebis<br />
gadametebaze gamo-<br />
Zieba wamebasa da araadamianur<br />
mopyrobaze unda gadakvalificirdes.<br />
mokled, saqmeze konkretuli<br />
Tanamdebobis pirebis pasuxismgeblobis<br />
sakiTxi unda dadges.<br />
_ am pirovnebasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT rame sxva interesic<br />
xom ar amoZravebdaT?<br />
_ CemTvis msgavsi araferi<br />
uTqvamT, Tumca is adamianebi,<br />
romlebsac narkotikuli niv-<br />
Tierebis SeZena-SenaxvisTvis<br />
dRes pirobiTi msjavri aqvT,<br />
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yvela, daaxloebiT, erTi da<br />
igive dReSia. maTze, lamis, yoveldRiuri<br />
zewola mimdinareobs,<br />
SiSis faqtori moqmedebs.<br />
_ am mdgomareobas rogor<br />
unda eSvelos?<br />
_ humanuri narkopolitikiT,<br />
_ Tu narkopolitikas ar gadavxedavT<br />
da aseTi maRali sanqciebi<br />
iqneba, saSveli ar dagvadgeba.<br />
dRes Cveni narkopolitika<br />
dafuZnebulia mxolod sanqciebsa<br />
da represiebze. ara marto<br />
Cven, maT Soris, saqarTvelos<br />
narkopolitikis erovnuli platforma<br />
(romelic amaze momu-<br />
Save 41 organizacias aerTianebs)<br />
vTanxmdebiT, rom socialuri<br />
reabilitaciis modelze<br />
unda gadavideT: damokidebul<br />
pirebs unda SevTavazoT Sesabamisi<br />
servisebi da adamianebi<br />
amis gamo 5 da 8 wliT cixeSi ar<br />
unda midiodnen. rodesac adamians<br />
yvelaze metad sWirdeba<br />
daxmareba, minimum, 5 wliT cixeSi<br />
vuSvebT. cxadia, amas adamianis<br />
janmrTelobisTvis da sazogadoebisTvis<br />
aranairi Sedegi<br />
ar moaqvs.<br />
amitom Cveni mTavari moTxovna<br />
narkopolitikis gaadamianurebaa.<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT narkopolitikis<br />
erovnulma platformam<br />
kanonproeqtic SeimuSava.<br />
maisSi parlamentis jandacvis komiteti<br />
aRniSnuli kanonproeqtis<br />
inicirebas moaxdens.<br />
am kanonproeqtze dawvrilebiT<br />
SemiZlia, sxva formatSic<br />
gesaubroT.<br />
_ mTavrobisgan ramdenad<br />
xedavT imis mzaobas, rom, am<br />
mxriv, realuri nabijebi gada-<br />
idgas?<br />
_ piradi saubrebisas Tu sajaro<br />
gancxadebebis drosac<br />
yvela vTanxmdebiT, rom narkotikebis<br />
momxmarebeli adamiani<br />
cixeSi ar unda midiodes, Tumca<br />
movlenebi rogor ganviTardeba<br />
da saqme saqmeze rom midgeba,<br />
ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs<br />
mmarTveli Zala (romelzedac<br />
dRes aRniSnuli kanonproeqtis<br />
miReba-armiRebis sakiTxia<br />
damokidebuli), amas unda davelodoT.<br />
SoTa pakelianis saqmesTan<br />
dakavSirebiT morig gancxade-<br />
bas avrcelebs „TeTri xmauris<br />
moZraoba”:<br />
„migvaCnia, rom sasamarTlo<br />
valdebulia, dResve daubrunos<br />
mas ukanonod aRkveTili Tavisufleba,<br />
radgan pakeliani<br />
sasjels ixdis danaSaulisTvis,<br />
romelic ar Caudenia.<br />
SegaxsenebT: isani-samgoris<br />
me-7 ganyofilebis TanamSromlebma<br />
SoTa pakeliani 23 marts<br />
daakaves. dakavebisas pakelianma<br />
mis xelT arsebuli axali<br />
fsiqoaqtiuri nivTierebis moxmareba<br />
moaswro, ganyofilebaSi<br />
gadayvanis Semdeg ki policiis<br />
TanamSromlebma narkotikuli<br />
nivTereba „bio” Caudes da ramdenimesaaTiani<br />
fizikuri angariSsworebisa<br />
da wamebis safuZvelze<br />
misgan aRiarebiTi Cvenebis<br />
mopovebas cdilobdnen.<br />
pakelianis daJinebuli moTxovnis<br />
miuxedavad, policielebma<br />
droulad ar gamoiZaxes<br />
saswrafo, ramac 4 dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />
misi komatozur mdgomareobaSi<br />
Cavardna gamoiwvia.<br />
komidan gamosvlisTanave sasamarTlom<br />
SoTa pakelians aRkve-<br />
Tis saxiT patimroba Sufarda.<br />
mogvianebiT, mwamebeli policielebis<br />
winaaRmdeg prokuraturam<br />
gamoZieba sisxlis samarTlis<br />
kodeqsis 333-e muxliT<br />
daiwyo, rac samsaxurebrivi<br />
uflebamosilebis gadametebas<br />
gulisxmobs. dacvis mxaris<br />
gancxadebiT, aRniSnul<br />
videokadrebze asaxuli iqneba<br />
policiis mier SoTa pakelianis<br />
rogorc cemis, aseve mis mimarT<br />
Cadenili sxvadasxva ukanono<br />
qmedeba, aseve Seusabamobebi dakavebisa<br />
da Cxrekis oqmTan”.<br />
feodalizmis renesansi<br />
rogor iqcnen Tbiliselebi municipalur sakuTrebad?!<br />
vin da rogor exmareba saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeebs komunaluri momsaxurebis<br />
gamwevi kompaniebis ukanono danaricxeb-<br />
is CamoweraSi?<br />
N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.<br />
fulis gamoZalvis mizniT Tavze Camocmuli<br />
plastikis paketi, sarCilavi, uTo _<br />
arafer amas qalaqis xelisufalni da<br />
Tbilisis komunaluri samsaxurebi, cxadia,<br />
ar iyeneben. amisTvis maT administrirebis<br />
erTiani samsaxuri aqvT.<br />
„Tu moqalaqes eqneba wyalmomaragebisa<br />
da nagvis gatanasTan dakavSrebuli davalianeba,<br />
mas ar Seuwydeba eleqtroenergiisa<br />
da bunebrivi airis miwodeba, maSinac<br />
ki, Tu man gadaixada maTi safasuri”, _<br />
citirebda gamomcemloba georgian times energetikis<br />
komisiis (semeki _ saqarTvelos<br />
energetikisa da wyalmomaragebis maregulirebeli<br />
erovnuli komisia) warmomadgenlis<br />
gancxadebas.<br />
am fenomens ukve droa, sazogadod, Tbilisis<br />
marTlmsajuleba vuwodoT, romlis<br />
mixedviTac ss Telasi kanonierad gauTi-<br />
Savs eleqtroenergias yvela im abonents,<br />
romelic uars ityvis Sps Tbilservisjgufis<br />
ukanono danaricxebis gadaxdaze.<br />
semek-is dadgenilebaSi ar aris gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
licenziantebis komunaluri<br />
momsaxurebis gamwevi kompaniebis pasuxismgebloba<br />
ukanono danaricxebze, amitomac<br />
maT SeuZliaT da, realurad, mravali<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi awamebdnen abonentebs,<br />
iTxovdnen ra ukanono danaricxebze gadaxdas,<br />
uTiSavdnen ra abonentebs eleqtroenergias,<br />
vinaidan icodnen, rom maT amis<br />
gamo araferi emuqrebodaT. Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
xelisufalni, sakrebulo da Tbilservisjgufis<br />
xelmZRvaneloba, warmoqmnis<br />
Tu ara abonenti nagavs, is mainc avaldebulebs,<br />
gadaixados. Tu vinme daregistrirebulia<br />
Tbilisis misamarTze, is avtomaturad<br />
qalaqis sakuTrebad iqceva da amitomac<br />
valdebulia, ixados Rala (begara),<br />
miuxedavad Tavisi adgilsamyofelisa. amitomac<br />
mxedvelobaSi ar miiReba Semdegi<br />
warmodgenili dokumentebi:<br />
rusTavis meriis cnobebi rusTavSi mudmivad<br />
cxovrebis Sesaxeb da rom iq gadaxdilia<br />
narCenebis gatanis, aseve is dokumentebi,<br />
romlebic mowmobs, rom Tbilisis<br />
bina SeZenisTanave daiketa, masSi aravis<br />
ucxovria da mflobelis gancxadebiT, binas<br />
Seuwyda eleqtroenergiisa da wyalmomaragebis<br />
miwodeba.<br />
saerTaSoriso pasportSi sazRvris gadakveTis<br />
Sesaxeb saqarTvelodan gasvlisa<br />
da Semosvlis Sesaxeb aRniSvnebi (saqarTvelos<br />
sakonsuloebi msoflios mraval qveyanaSi,<br />
ubralod, ar arsebobs);<br />
qviTrebi saqarTvelos sxva regionebis<br />
sastumroebSi cxovrebis Sesaxeb; mxedvelobaSi<br />
miiReba mxolod is sabuTebi, risi<br />
wardgenac saqarTvelos saxelmwifo reestrs<br />
SeuZlia;<br />
ar aris aRiarebuli rusTavis municipaluri<br />
warmonaqmnis (am SemTxvevaSi) ufleba,<br />
Seagrovos narCenebis gatanis mosakrebeli,<br />
realurad ganxorcielebuli<br />
qmedeba am niSnis gamo, rom reestrSi moqalaqeebi<br />
TbilisSi arian daregistrirebulni<br />
da Tbilisis municipalur sakuTrebas<br />
warmoadgenen.<br />
am yma, moqalaqis uflebis armqone adamianis<br />
statusis gasamyareblad Tbilisis<br />
sakrebulos dadgenilebaSi qalaq Tbilisis<br />
abonentTaTvis ar aris gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
Tbilservisjgufis gadawyvetilebebis<br />
gasaCivrebis meqanizmi, xolo daxmarebis<br />
misaRebad saqarTvelos saxalxo damcvelebisadmi<br />
_ ombudsmenisadmi da energoombudsmenisadmi<br />
_ mimarTvebs aranairi<br />
Sedegi ar moaqvT.<br />
Tu narCenebis gatanis sferoSi regulirebiT<br />
aravin aris dakavebuli, maSin<br />
administrirebis erTiani sistemis mier nagvis<br />
gatanis argadamxdelebisTvis eleqtroenergiis<br />
miwodebis Sewyvetac aseve<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze<br />
unda xdebodes, romelsac unda mimarTavdes<br />
Sps Tbilservisjgufi, an kdev narCenebis<br />
gatanis servisi gamoyvanil unda iqnes<br />
administrirebis erTiani sistemis moqmedebis<br />
sferodan.<br />
saqarTvelos energetikisa da wyalmomaragebis<br />
maregulirebeli erovnuli komisia<br />
(semek-i) da energoombudsmeni miiCneven,<br />
rom es maTi saqme ar aris. maS, romel<br />
don korleones mivmarToT? interneti gadavsebulia<br />
publikaciebiT imis Sesaxeb,<br />
rom nagvis dalagebiT yvelgan mafiaa dakavebuli.<br />
energoombudsmen salome vardiaSvilisadmi<br />
da Telasis generalur direqtor<br />
sergei kopcevisadmi mimarTvebma imis Taobaze,<br />
rom Sps Tbilservisjgufi ignorirebs<br />
2014 wlis 12 dekembris sakrebulos<br />
dadgenilebas n17-46 _ nagvis mosakrebeli<br />
aiReba da im SemTxvevaSi, Tu warmoiqmneba<br />
nagavi, amitom misi danaricxebi ukanonoa,<br />
ris Sedegadac administrirebis erTiani<br />
sistema ukanono danaricxebis gadaxdisken<br />
daZalebis instrumentad iqceva, jerjerobiT,<br />
veranairi Sedegi ver gamoiRo, iseve<br />
rogorc dedaqalaqis sakrebuloSi fraqcia<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” Tbiliselebis Tavmjdomare<br />
guliko zumbaZisadmi mimarTvam.<br />
1861 wels aleqsandere I-m Caatara reforma,<br />
gaauqma batonymoba, maT Soris,<br />
saqarTveloSic, romelic ruseTis imperiis<br />
SemadgenlobaSi Sedioda, Tumca monoba,<br />
ama Tu im formiT da ama Tu im dros,<br />
msoflios yvela nawilSi arsebobda da<br />
verc erTma rasam ver daaRwia Tavi sazogadoebrivi<br />
ganviTarebis am Semzarav formas.<br />
maS, vin ixsnis Tbiliselebs nagvis<br />
monobisgan? vin daubrunebs Tbilisis mcxovreblebs<br />
Tavisi uflebebis dacvis Sesa-<br />
Zleblobas erovnul maregulirebel komisiaSi<br />
Tbilservisjgufis TviTnebobis<br />
winaSe?<br />
iqneb, rame ar viciT, Cven nacvlad ukve<br />
yvelaferi gadawyvites da saqarTvelo<br />
damajereblad miemarTeba neofeodaluri<br />
saxelmwifos naTeli momavlisken?<br />
aleqsandre eriomini<br />
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miuxedavd uwyebrivi daqvemdebarebisa,<br />
quTaisis meriam<br />
keTili neba gamoxata da Teatris<br />
koleqtivs piroba misca,<br />
centraluri xelisuflebisgan<br />
samuSaoebis dawyebisTvis saWiro<br />
dafinansebis gamoyofis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
garkveul Tanxas qalaqis<br />
biujetic gaiRebda, rad-<br />
quTaisis iakob gogebaSvilis saxelobis saxelmwifo<br />
Tojinebis Teatri gasul wels 70 wlis gaxda, ris gamoc iu-<br />
biles farTod aRniSvnva igegmeboda. elodnen, rom solidur<br />
TariRs koleqtivi reabilitirebul SenobaSi aRniSnavda, Tum-<br />
ca ideis ganxorcieleba ver moxerxda, radgan im pirobebSi,<br />
romelSic dass uwevs muSaoba, stumrebis miReba ara marto<br />
qalaqis, aramed qveynis sircxvilic ki iqneboda.<br />
Tojinebis Teatri 3-sarTuliani<br />
Senobis pirvel sarTulzea,<br />
Sesabamisad, nestis suni<br />
ara marto darbazSi, romelic<br />
bunkers mogagonebT, aramed<br />
foieSic igrZnoba. Camongreuli<br />
kedlebis SefuTvas direqcia<br />
qaRaldis dekoraciebiT<br />
cdilobs, xolo iq, sadac xis<br />
panelebia akruli, mtris gulis<br />
gasaxeTqad arsebuli problemebi<br />
vizualurad naklebad<br />
Cans. farTis simciris gamo<br />
arsebobs dekoraciebis Sesanaxi<br />
saTavsebis problemac. rac<br />
Seexeba darbazs, igi aranair<br />
standarts ar pasuxobs, radganac<br />
arc sivrce da arc forma<br />
TeatrisTvis Sesaferisi ar<br />
gaaCnia. xis Zelskamebi isea gan-<br />
Tavsebuli, rom araTu gverdis<br />
avla, aramed ukana rigebSi msxdomTaTvis<br />
sanaxaobis yurebac<br />
ki problemaa.<br />
TeatrSi arsebulma aparaturam<br />
Tavisi resursi srulad<br />
amowura. faqtia, rom Tojinebis<br />
speqtakli aris sanaxaoba,<br />
romelmac bavSvebs ganaTebisa<br />
da mxatvrobis SexamebiT sxva<br />
samyaroSi mogzauroba unda<br />
SesTavazos. mxatvroba da msaxiobTa<br />
ostatoba am konkretul<br />
SemTxvevaSi namdvilad maRal<br />
donezea, magram rac Seexeba<br />
teqnikur mxares, aq ukve seriozuli<br />
problemebi ikveTeba, _<br />
dRemde namdvil gamocanad<br />
rCeba is, Tu rogor axerxeben<br />
quTaiseli msaxiobebi maRali<br />
donis speqtaklebis Cvenebas<br />
arsebuli aparaturis pirobeb-<br />
Si.<br />
marTalia, mayurebeli ver<br />
amCnevs, magram veranair kritikas<br />
ver uZlebs is mdgomareoba,<br />
ra pirobebSic msaxiobebs<br />
Tejirs miRma uwevT muSaoba:<br />
viwro farTi, nesti da amis gamo<br />
gamowveuli sunis atana arcTu<br />
ise advilia. miuxedavad<br />
amisa, isini bolomde ixarjebian<br />
da bavSvebisTvis da maTi<br />
mSoblebisTvis SeumCneveli<br />
rCeba yvela is problema, risi<br />
gadalaxvac maT uwevT. speqtaklis<br />
bolos taSis fonze madlobis<br />
moxdas msaxiobebi Rimiliani<br />
saxeebiT mainc axerxeben.<br />
yvelaferi, rasac msaxiobebi<br />
akeTeben, mcire xelfasiT anazRaurdeba,<br />
rac 260 laridan<br />
iwyeba, es ki minimaluradac ver<br />
akmayofilebs dRes arsebul<br />
moTxovnebs. swored saxelfaso<br />
problemebis gamo dasi ramdenime<br />
profesionalma ukve datova.<br />
erT-erTi maTgani, ukeTesi<br />
anazRaurebis gamo, iZulebuli<br />
gaxda, TurqeTSi wasuliyo samuSaod.<br />
marTalia, TeatrSi<br />
dRes axalgazrda msaxiobebic<br />
muSaoben, magram ramdenad<br />
moaxerxebs direqcia maT Senar-<br />
Cunebas, rTuli saTqmelia. saqarTveloSi<br />
meTojineTa raodenoba<br />
Zalian mcirea. samuSaos<br />
specifikidan gamomdinare, yvela<br />
msaxiobs am kuTxiT muSaoba<br />
28<br />
xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />
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ar SeuZlia. swored amitom nebismieri<br />
adamianis wasvla TeatrisTvis<br />
didi danaklisia.<br />
Tojinebis Teatris msaxiobis<br />
gansakuTrebulobaze sau-<br />
brobs ia iaSvili, romelic<br />
koleqtivs ramdenime wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi xelmZRvanelob-<br />
da:<br />
_ Teatri dros ar unda CamorCes,<br />
raRac iseTi unda Tqvas<br />
da ise, rom mayurebeli miizidos.<br />
amasTan, Taobebi unda<br />
icvlebodes: Tu Teatrs 4-5<br />
wlis manZilze erTi axali msax-<br />
quTaisis Tojinebis<br />
TeatrSi msaxiobebi<br />
da Tojinebi<br />
iZulebiT icinian<br />
`Tanamedrove qarTuli Teatris kvlevis centris monacemebiT, quTaisis<br />
Tojinebis Teatris warmodgena `mzis sxvivi~ saukeTeso Tojinuri<br />
speqtaklebis xuTeulSi moxvda. gasul wels ki dasma sul 381 warmodgena<br />
gamarTa. mniSvnelovania, rom speqtaklebis xilvis saSualeba ar marto<br />
quTaisel bavSvebs, aramed dasavleT saqrTvelos sxva regionebis<br />
patarebsac SeuZliaT, radgan dasi xSirad gadis municipalitetebSi,<br />
riTac Teatris popularizaciasac axdens da sakuTari biujetis raRac<br />
odenobiT Sevsebasac axerxebs~<br />
iobi ar Seemateba, es ukve problemaa.<br />
Tojinis kargad matarebeli<br />
niWieri adamiani unda<br />
iyos. SesaZloa, kargi samsaxiobo<br />
unar-CvevebiT gamoirCeode,<br />
magram Tojinis sunTqva ar gesmodes,<br />
ver grZnobde mas da<br />
piriqiT, _ SesaZloa, kargi me-<br />
Tojine iyo, magram sxva rameSi<br />
moikoWlebde, rogorc msaxiobi.<br />
Teatris xelmZRvaneloba<br />
TanamSromlebis waxalisebas,<br />
mxolod sakuTari Semosavlebis<br />
wyalobiT, weliwadSi 2-jer<br />
axerxebs. es yuradReba simboluria,<br />
radgan koleqtivis wevrebis<br />
keTildReobaze naklebad<br />
aisaxeba.<br />
erTaderTi motivacia, rac<br />
Tojinebis Teatris TanamSromlebs<br />
muSaobis stimuls aZlevda,<br />
xelisuflebis mxridan gacemuli<br />
dapireba iyo, romlis<br />
mixedviTac aq farTo masStabis<br />
sareabilitacio samuSaoebi unda<br />
ganxorcielebuliyo, magram<br />
rekonstruqcia, romelic, jer<br />
kidev, 2016 wels daigegma, minimum,<br />
erTi weli kidev ar daiwyeba.<br />
adre gakeTebuli gancxadebebis<br />
mixedviT, samuSaoebi<br />
wels unda dawyebuliyo, magram<br />
saukeTeso variantSi rogorc<br />
msaxiobebs, ise mayurebels kidev<br />
erTi weli mouwevT lodini.<br />
yoveli SemTxvevisTvis, amjerad<br />
dapireba aseTia da orive<br />
mxare iZulebulia, dijeros.<br />
yvelaferi mainc kulturis<br />
saministros keTil nebazea damokidebuli,<br />
Teatris reabilitacia<br />
am uwyebis mxridan Sesabamisi<br />
Tanxebis biujetSi asaxvis<br />
SemTxvevaSi iqneba SesaZlebeli.<br />
Tanxa ki, romelic reabilitaciisTvisaa<br />
saWiro, erT<br />
milion lars Seadgens.<br />
Tojinebis Teatri reabilitaciisTvis<br />
saWiro Tanxis gareSe<br />
mas Semdeg darCa, rac 2016<br />
wlis miwuruls kulturis saministrom<br />
yvela saxelmwifo<br />
Teatris xarjebi gadaibara da<br />
am pasuxismgeblobisgan adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobebi<br />
gaaTavisufla. swored amitom<br />
quTaisis meriam 2017 wlis biujetSi<br />
remontisTvis saWiro<br />
xarjebi ukve aRar gaiTvaliswina.<br />
levan gabriWiZe _ Teatris<br />
xelmZRvaneli:<br />
_ 2016 wels qalaqis balansze<br />
viyaviT da is gvafinansebda,<br />
radgan aravin icoda, gadavidodiT<br />
Tu ara kulturis saministros<br />
dafinansebaze. saministros<br />
ki reabilitaciis Tanxa<br />
biujetSi ar hqonda gaTvaliswinebuli.<br />
axla saministroSi<br />
Sexvedra gvaqvs dagegmili<br />
da vimedovnebT, rom 2018 wlis<br />
biujetSi Caismeba. vnaxoT, saministro<br />
ras gadawyvetss.<br />
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gan Teatri adgilobriv mosaxleobas<br />
emsaxureba.<br />
SoTa murRulia _ quTaisis<br />
meri:<br />
_ Tojinebis Teatris remontis<br />
sakiTxi kulturis saministros<br />
exeba. Cven SevTavazeT da<br />
vuTxariT, rom Cvenc SevalT<br />
TanadafinansebiT 100 aTasi<br />
lariT, miuxedvad imisa, rom is<br />
srulad centraluri xelisuflebis<br />
daqvemdebarebaSia. Cve-<br />
rebis SemoWeris meqanizmi amoqmedda<br />
da isedac mwiri biujeti<br />
yvela Teatrs Seumcirda.<br />
Tu adre Tojinebis Teatris<br />
wliuri biujeti 260 aTass Seadgenda,<br />
saxelmwifos mxridan<br />
Tanxebis dazogvis motiviT ganxorcielebuli<br />
cvlilebis Semdeg<br />
wels igi 240 aTasiT ganisazRvra.<br />
gaurkvevelia, ra Se-<br />
RavaTi miiRo saxelmwifom 20-<br />
aTasiani sxvaobiT maSin, roca<br />
aseTi odenobis Tanxa rig<br />
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Tanamedrove qarTuli Teatris<br />
kvlevis centris monacemebiT,<br />
quTaisis Tojinebis Teatris<br />
warmodgena „mzis sxvivi”<br />
saukeTeso Tojinuri speqtaklebis<br />
xuTeulSi moxvda. gasul<br />
wels ki dasma sul 381 warmodgena<br />
gamarTa. mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom speqtaklebis xilvis saSualeba<br />
ar marto quTaisel bavSvebs,<br />
aramed dasavleT saqrTvelos<br />
sxva regionebis patarebsac<br />
SeuZliaT, radgan dasi xSi-<br />
wminda ninos 9 nomerSi, im saxlis<br />
pirvel sarTulze mdebareobs,<br />
romelic me-19 saukuneSi<br />
qalaqSi cnobilma meore gildiis<br />
vaWarma, stefane feiqriSvilma<br />
aaSena. iq, sadac amJamad<br />
mayurebelTa darbazia, adre,<br />
Turme, Rvinos inaxavdnen. 1946<br />
wels, xelisuflebis mier miRebuli<br />
gadawyvetilebiT, aRniSnuli<br />
Senobis garkveuli nawili<br />
mesxiSvilis Teatris bazaze<br />
dodo anTaZis mier Seqmnil<br />
Tojinebis Teatrs daeTmo.<br />
mTeli am xnis manZilze koleqtivi<br />
igive farTSi saqmianobs<br />
da miuxedavad mayurebalTa<br />
raodenobis gazrdisa da arasakmarisi<br />
sivrcis arsebobisa,<br />
Teatris sxvagan gadayvana, an<br />
axali Senobis ageba vera da ver<br />
moxerxda. rogorc amboben, axali<br />
Senobis asagebad qalaqis<br />
centralur moedanze arsebuli<br />
is teritoriac ganixileboda,<br />
sadac amJamad makdonaldsisTvis<br />
gamoiZebna adgili. Tumca<br />
wlebis winaT am mimarTulebiT<br />
dawyebuli saubrebi daviwyebas<br />
mieca. arada, qalaqis istoriul<br />
nawilSi, jer kidev,<br />
moiZebneba farTi, sadac bavSvebisTvis<br />
Sesaferisi Teatris<br />
funqcionirebaa SesaZlebeli.<br />
„TeTr xidTan” arsebuli mweralTa<br />
kavSiris Senobis (romel-<br />
vebisTvis samsaxiobo wreebi<br />
Seoqmneboda da Tojinebis dasamzadebeli<br />
saxelosnoebic gan-<br />
Tavsdeboda. quTaiselTa erTi<br />
nawilis gancxadebiT, kargi<br />
iqneba, Tuki koleqtivs marTlac<br />
gadaecema ufunqciod dar-<br />
Cenili mweralTa kavSiris Senoba<br />
da Tanxebi ara im farTis<br />
reabilitacias moxmardeba, sadac<br />
amJamad warmodgenebi imarTeba<br />
da romelic Tanamedrove<br />
TeatrisTvis absoluturad<br />
Seuferebelia, aramed swored<br />
am Senobis keTilmowyobisTvis<br />
daixarjeba.<br />
ia iaSvili _ Teatris yo-<br />
fili xelmZRvaneli:<br />
_ es Cemi ocneba iyo, Sesani-<br />
Snavi adgilia, magram, amave<br />
dros, kargad gasayidi da, bunebrivia,<br />
bevri iqneba msurveli,<br />
daepatronos. amitomac meeWveba,<br />
iq vinmem SeuSvas Teatri.<br />
rac Seexeba Senobas, sadac am-<br />
Jamad koleqtivi muSaobs, aq<br />
erT-erTi problema isicaa,<br />
rom amJamad is usafrTxo adgilze<br />
ar aris ganTavsebuli.<br />
Taetris win manqanebis intensiuri<br />
moZraobaa da mudmivad safrTxea...<br />
sabavSvo Teatrs<br />
aucileblad unda hqondes gareTa<br />
Tavisufali sivrce,<br />
skveri mainc, Tu parki ara.<br />
ni interesic aris, rom bavSvebisTvis<br />
TeatrSi komfortuli<br />
garemo Seiqmnas. radganac wels<br />
Tanxebis moZieba ver moxerxda,<br />
100 aTasi laris biujetSi tyuilad<br />
gaCereba ar mimaCnia mizanSewonilad<br />
da sxva tipis infrastruqturis<br />
mosawesrigeblad<br />
gadavitaneT.<br />
2017 wlamde quTaisSi arsebuli<br />
saxelmwifo Teatrebis<br />
movla-patroba srulad quTaisis<br />
biujetze iyo damokidebuli.<br />
merias koleqtivebis Senaxva<br />
3 milion laramde ujdeboda,<br />
magram saministros dafinansebaze<br />
gadasvlis Semdeg qam-<br />
saxelmwifo uwyebebSi ramdenime<br />
adamianis premiasa da danamats<br />
xmardeba? marTalia,<br />
amaze ar saubroben, magram<br />
aSkaraa, rom biujetSi mcire<br />
cvlilebac ki koleqtivisTvis<br />
seriozul problemas warmoadgens.<br />
levan gabriWiZe _ Teatris<br />
xelmZRvaneli:<br />
_ arc TanamSromlebi Semcirebulan<br />
da arc xelfasi dahklebiaT.<br />
yvela es adamiani sa-<br />
Wiroa TeatrSi. Tanac dRevandel<br />
sabazro pirobebSi rTuli<br />
iqneboda xelfasis Semcireba,<br />
amitom Tanxebi moviZieT.<br />
N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.<br />
rad gadis municipalitetebSi,<br />
riTac Teatris popularizaciasac<br />
axdens da sakuTari biujetis<br />
raRac odenobiT Sevsebasac<br />
axerxebs. dRes Tojinebis<br />
TeatrSi warmodgenis xilva<br />
2 laradaa SesaZlebeli, rac saqarTvelos<br />
pirobebSic ki mizeruli<br />
Tanxaa. marTalia, survili<br />
ar arsebobs, magram saku-<br />
Tari Semosavlebis gazrdisa<br />
da arsebuli xarjebis dafarvis<br />
mizniT, direqcia iZulebulia,<br />
axlo momavalSi bile-<br />
Tis Rirebuleba gazardos, Tumca<br />
ramdeniT, jerjerobiT,<br />
gaurkvevelia.<br />
quTaisis Tojinebis Teatri<br />
sac, samwuxarod, mxolod saxeli<br />
SemorCa) oTaxebis didi nawili,<br />
mouvlelobis gamo, ufunqciodaa,<br />
nawili ki mwerlobasTan<br />
aranair kavSirSi myof<br />
adamianebzea miqiravebuli, arada,<br />
es Senoba Tojinebis TetrisTvis<br />
yvelaze misaRebi variantia.<br />
keTili nebis SemTxveva-<br />
Si mweralTa saxls, romelsac,<br />
did ezosTan erTad mozrdili<br />
darbazic aqvs, xelisufleba<br />
Teatrs gadascemda, rom mayurebeli<br />
Sesabamis pirobebSi mie-<br />
Ro da Senobac did sabavSvo<br />
centrad eqcia, sadac ara marto<br />
speqtaklebis Cveneba iqneboda<br />
SesaZlebeli, aramed bavS-<br />
70 wlis Teatrma Tavisi arsebobis<br />
manZilze wels pirvelad<br />
moaxerxa daetovebina saqarTvelo<br />
da sakuTari Semoqmedeba<br />
sazRvrebs gareT gaetana.<br />
baqodan dasi specialuri<br />
priziT da Teatraluri kritikosebis<br />
mxridan gakeTebuli<br />
maRali SefasebebiT dabrunda.<br />
imedi unda viqonioT, rom mayurebelTa<br />
da Teatris moyvarulTa<br />
Sefasebebs xelisuflebis<br />
mxridan Sesabamisi<br />
dafasebac mohyveba, rac didi<br />
tradiciebis mqone koleqtivis<br />
mimarT ufro meti yuradRebis<br />
gamoCeniT gamoixateba.<br />
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Sua saukuneebSi saqarTvelos<br />
maka mosiaSvili<br />
ganagebdnen mefe-mTavrebi da maTi<br />
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moxeleebi, Tumca qalaqebsa da so-<br />
flebs TviTmmarTvelobis garkveuli<br />
ufleba mainc hqonda. 2006 wlis Semdeg qalaq Telavs TviT-<br />
mmarTveli qalaqis statusi aRar aqvs, igi mxolod 2014 wlidan<br />
mieniWa, Tumca qalaqis TviTmmarTvelobis istoria isev xanmokle<br />
aRmoCnda da sami wlis Semdeg sakrebulos sxdomaze TviTm-<br />
marTveloba Telavis 7-ma deputatma sakuTari xeliT mokla.<br />
Telavs TviTmmarTveli<br />
sami wlis manZilze arc erTi<br />
sakrebulos sxdoma ar yofila<br />
qalaqSi aseTi xmauriani, rogoric<br />
axla iyo; arc erT sakrebulos<br />
sxdomas ar daswrebia imdeni<br />
moqalaqe, ramdenic axla<br />
daeswro, magram miuxedavad mowodebisa,<br />
Segonebisa, Txovnisa,<br />
moTxovnisa, yvirilisa da stvenisa<br />
_ TviTmmarTvel qalaq Telavis<br />
mze, sadRac, Worvilis<br />
mTebSi Caikarga.<br />
realurad ki 2012 wlis Semdeg<br />
dapirebuli decentralizaciis<br />
nacvlad mosaxleobam<br />
miiRo dekoncentracia.<br />
komi isev saxezea! mere ra, rom<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis kodeqsi gvaqvs,<br />
an xalxi xmas iRebs?! mTavaria,<br />
ra unda arqifos...<br />
daviT TuSiSvili erT-erTi<br />
deputatia, romelmac saerTod<br />
ar miiRo kenWisyraSi monawileoba.<br />
misi azriT, mxolod ordoniani<br />
TviTmmarTveloba uSvelis<br />
qveyanas:<br />
_ ra Seicvleba aRniSnuli<br />
proeqtiT TviTmmarTvelobisTvis,<br />
romelic infrastruq-<br />
turis saministrom waradgina?!<br />
_ aRniSnuli proeqtiT erTerT<br />
argumentad arsebuli sis-<br />
da misi aparati soflad „fostalionis”<br />
rols asrulebs, es<br />
ukanaskneli ki soflis mosaxleobisTvis<br />
kategoriulad miuRebelia.<br />
_ axali proeqti ras gva-<br />
Zlevs?<br />
_ infrastruqturis saministros<br />
mier warmodgenil proeqtSi<br />
sakiTxis problemurobaa<br />
aRniSnuli, Tumca mogvarebaze<br />
araferia naTqvami. darwmunebuli<br />
var, verc SemogvTavazeben,<br />
vinaidan xalxs surs, TviTmmarTvelobaSi<br />
Tavad miiRos monawileoba.<br />
amitom es da SemoTava-<br />
qalaqis statusi aRar aqvs!<br />
lSi yofiTi problemebis gaumjobesebas<br />
xmardeba.<br />
ori sakrebulos tango ki<br />
ase dasrulda:<br />
qalaq Telavis municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulom 7 xmiT 5-is winaaRmdeg<br />
mxari dauWira regionuli<br />
ganviTarebisa da infrastruqturis<br />
saministros mier<br />
inicirebul sakiTxs qalaq Telavisa<br />
da Telavis Temis municipalitetebis<br />
gaerTianebis Sesaxeb.<br />
sagangebod am sakiTxze gadawyvetilebis<br />
misaRebad mowveul<br />
sakrebulos riggareSe sxdomas<br />
oviRebdi, magram aq aris CamonaTvali:<br />
dasvenebisa da gasar-<br />
Tobi centrebi, samusiko skolebi,<br />
Teatrebi, muzeumebi, bazrebi,<br />
savaWro centrebi. am werilis<br />
mixedviT, am obieqtebis movla-patronoba<br />
mxolod qalaqs<br />
awvebao. muSur-glexurad rom<br />
vTqvaT, SemogvRobeT, rom sxvam<br />
veRar isargeblos. es aris Seuracxmyofeli”,<br />
_ aRniSna moqalaqe<br />
arCil mWedliSvilma.<br />
„miRebuli gaqvT davaleba<br />
xeglejiasgan da unda SeasruloT,<br />
razea laparaki!” _ ganacxada<br />
qalaq Telavis sakrebulos<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom kanon-<br />
Si, erTi SexedviT, yvelaferi<br />
lamazad Cans da bunebriv kiTxvebs<br />
ar aCens, infrastruqturis<br />
saministros moTxovna uzenaesi<br />
aRmoCnda Telavis Temisa da<br />
qalaqis sakrebuloebisTvis da<br />
Tavisi pasuxiT xelisuflebas<br />
dasTnxmda, rom erTiandebian. ra<br />
Tqma unda, mosaxleobis azri aq<br />
aravis gauTvaliswinebia. saboloo<br />
jamSi, miviReT dekoncentraciis<br />
TvalsaCino nimuSi _<br />
centris mier adgilobrivi ganyofilebebis<br />
Seqmna. swored infrastruqturis<br />
saministros am<br />
moTxovnam gvaCvena, rom Cvens<br />
qveyanaSi saerTod ar varT decentralizaciis<br />
mimdevrebi,<br />
CvenTan isev ise irCeven merebs,<br />
gamgebels, rogorc odesRac<br />
aRmaskomis Tavmjdomares niSnavdnen<br />
cekadan.<br />
ase rom, leninis ar iyos, nabiji<br />
win, ori nabiji ukan, xelisuflebisTvis<br />
warmatebuli aRmoCnda,<br />
ceka isev muSaobs, aRmas-<br />
30<br />
temis winaaRmdeg moyvanilia<br />
Semdegi faqti, rom municipalitetis<br />
mosaxleoba TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
marTvaSi ar monawileobs,<br />
inertulia. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom 2 wlis winaT kodeqsSi<br />
cvlilebebi Sevida, ris safuZvelzec<br />
soflad unda Seqmniliyo<br />
mrCevelTa sabWoebi, unda<br />
arCeuliyo rCeuli da am organos<br />
unda mieRo aqtiuri monawileoba<br />
sofelSi gasakeTebeli<br />
infrastruqturuli Tu socialuri<br />
sakiTxebis prioritetebis<br />
gansazRvraSi, unda gaewia<br />
aRmasrulebel organoze zedamxedveloba,<br />
sabolood, faqti<br />
darCa faqtad: soflad mosaxleobisTvis<br />
miuRebelia iseT soflis<br />
rwmunebulTan (rwmunebulis<br />
aparati) urTierToba, romelsac<br />
qmediTi RonisZiebebis gatareba<br />
ama Tu im problemis mogvarebis<br />
mizniT ar SeuZlia im<br />
martivi mizezis gamo, rom mas<br />
sakuTari biujeti ar gaaCnia.<br />
ukeTes SemTxvevaSi, rwmunebuli<br />
zebuli sistema veranairad<br />
uzrunvelyofs amas. minda gagaxsenoT<br />
2006 wlamde arsebuli<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis modeli, roca<br />
yovel sofels hyavda Tavisi<br />
sakrebulo 5-kaciani SemadgenlobiT.<br />
maTgan sakrebulos Tavmjdomare<br />
avtomaturad asrulebda<br />
soflis gamgeblis movaleobas<br />
da, amavdroulad, raionuli<br />
sakrebulos wevric iyo.<br />
anu qveyanaSi 2-doniani sakrebulo<br />
gvqonda Tavisi biujetebi-<br />
Ta da kompetenciebiT. soflis<br />
biujetis Semosavals warmoadgenda<br />
miwis gadasaxadi, xolo<br />
raionuli biujetis ZiriTad<br />
Semosavals _ mogebis, saSemosavlos,<br />
da sxva gadasaxadebi. Cemi<br />
azriT, Cven am sistemas unda davubrundeT,<br />
sofels unda hqondes<br />
sakuTari biujeti, mosaxleobas<br />
gancda unda hqondes, rom<br />
roca is miwis gadasaxads ixdis,<br />
isev mas ubrundeba. ganmartebisTvis<br />
vityvi: misi gadaxdili<br />
fuli gadasaxadi, missave sofe-<br />
15 wevridan mxolod 12 eswreboda.<br />
sakrebulos umravlesobis wevrebma<br />
ar gaiziares moqalaqeTa<br />
mosazrebebi, uari eTqvaT saministros<br />
moTxovnaze municipalitetebis<br />
gaerTianebis Sesaxeb.<br />
„administraciuli xarjebis<br />
Semcireba Tu aris erT-erTi<br />
mizezi, nu aiRebT, batono, premiebs,<br />
danamatebs da biujetSi<br />
geqnebaT Tanxa, rom meti proeqti<br />
ganaxorcieloT. uari TqviT<br />
saministros moTxovnis Sesrulebaze.<br />
Tqven Cven agirCieT,<br />
moqalaqeebma, gamodiT gareT,<br />
quCaSi, xalxsac gvkiTxeT azri”,<br />
_ mimarTa sakrebulos wevrebs<br />
qalaq TelavSi mcxovrebma Tam-<br />
ila utiaSvilma.<br />
„saministros werilSi weria,<br />
rom, magaliTad, qalaqebSi Tavmoyrilia<br />
iseTi obieqtebi, romliTac<br />
ara mxolod qalaqebis,<br />
aramed soflebis mosaxleobac<br />
sargeblobso. aq rom marto sabavSvo<br />
baRebi eweros, xmas ar am-<br />
opozicionerma wevrma, fraqcia<br />
„Zlieri Telavis” Tavmjdomare<br />
nikoloz vardoSvilma.<br />
daaxloebiT samsaaTiani ganxilvis<br />
Semdeg sakrebulos wevrebidan<br />
7-ma municipalitetebis<br />
gaerTianebas mxari dauWira, 5-<br />
ma winaaRmdeg misca xma.<br />
15 maiss saqarTvelos regionuli<br />
ganviTarebisa da infrastruqturis<br />
saministrom 14 municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulos werili<br />
gaugzavna, romliTac iTxovs,<br />
sakrebuloebma imsjelon<br />
qalaqisa da Temis municipalitetebis<br />
gaerTianebaze. saubaria<br />
7 TviTmmarTveli qalaqis: Telavis,<br />
ozurgeTis, zugdidis,<br />
goris, ambrolauris, mcxeTisa<br />
da axalcixis statusis gauqmebaze<br />
da Temis municipalitetebTan<br />
gaerTianebaze.<br />
municipalitetebis gaerTianebas<br />
arasamTavrobo organizaciebisa<br />
da opoziciuri partiebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi aprotesteben.<br />
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599 45 50 26 _ saxelmwifos rols yovelTvis<br />
bolo aTwleulebis politiku-<br />
Zalian didi mniSvneloba eniWeba.<br />
rma, socialur-ekonomikurma kataklizmebma sazogadoebis cno-<br />
saministroebi imitom arseboben,<br />
bierebaze, misi wevrebis fsiqologiur mdgomareobaze saTanado<br />
rom am saqmes mixedon, magram Tu<br />
zegavlena moaxdina. am mxriv, gasakviri ar aris, rom sazogadoe-<br />
saxelmwifo Tavisive moqalaqis<br />
bis yvelaze susti wevrebi daiCagrnen. ojaxebi ingreoda, adami-<br />
jansaRi, swori cxovrebis wesiT<br />
anebi sarCo-sabadeblis saSovnelad sazRvargareT midiodnen da,<br />
dainteresebuli ar aris (dasaqme-<br />
gasagebi mizezebis gamo, droulad samSobloSi dabrunebas veRbiT<br />
da a. S.), Sedegs ver miviRebT.<br />
ar axerxebdnen. am dros qveyana mis winaSe mdgar problemebs,<br />
Tuki sawarmoebi ar amuSavdeba,<br />
umuSevrobis problemebi ver dai-<br />
siduxWires (gamomdinare SedegebiT) Tavs ver aRwevda.<br />
Zleva. saqarTvelos yvela raion-<br />
arsebul mdgomareobasa da gamosavlis<br />
gzebze „qronika+” esaubreba<br />
aaip „kavkasionis sinergi-<br />
is” prezidents, ojaxis fsiqol-<br />
ogs, bavSvTa uflebadamcvel lika<br />
beburiZes:<br />
_ meeqvse weliwadia, ojaxur Zaladobaze,<br />
mozardebis problemebze<br />
vmuSaobT; janmrTelobis dacvis,<br />
kulturul, samedicino Tu<br />
sxva proeqtebs vaxorcielebT. am<br />
mizniT, organizaciaSi mTeli saqarTvelos<br />
masStabiT 9 aTasamde ojaxi<br />
davpatiJeT. Cveni mniSvnelovani<br />
proeqtebia: daCagrulebi; erTi kanfeti<br />
da saTamaSo yvela bavSvs; yvela<br />
bavSvi imsaxurebs bednierebas;<br />
sinergiuli maSvelebi da a. S.<br />
axla daviwyeT preskonferenciebis<br />
cikli gaxSirebul ojaxur<br />
Zaladobaze, maT Soris, fsiqologiur<br />
Zaladobaze, gaxSirebul<br />
suicidis mcdelobaze mozardebsa<br />
da ara marto maTSi.<br />
amasTan, saqarTveloSi, ZiriTadad,<br />
Tbilissa da sxva did qalaqebSi,<br />
mosaxleoba, faqtobrivad,<br />
mdgmurad cxovrobs. amis mizezi<br />
bankebze, totalizatorebze, alkoholze<br />
damokidebulebaa; sxvadasxva<br />
janmrTelobis problemis<br />
gamo gayiduli saxlebi da a. S. es<br />
yvelaferi pirdapir moqmedebs<br />
mozardebis mdgomareobaze, maTze,<br />
vinc eris genofonds warmoadgens.<br />
Cven Zalisxmevas ar viSurebT,<br />
rom sakuTari mokrZalebuli wvlili<br />
SevitanoT arsebuli mZime<br />
mdgomareobis Sesamsubuqeblad.<br />
amisTvis gvaqvs dRis akademiis<br />
proeqti, romelic yovel aT dRe-<br />
Si erTxel 50 warCinebul moswavles,<br />
mozards srulfasovnad moemsaxureba.<br />
isini sxvadaxva dargis<br />
medikosebTan Semowmebas gaivlian<br />
da saganmanaTleblo RonisZiebeb-<br />
Si monawileobas miiReben. es sxvebisTvisac<br />
garkveuli motivacia<br />
iqneba meti ganviTarebisTvis.<br />
_ Tqveni praqtikidan gamom-<br />
dinare, sadReisod ra konkretul<br />
gamowvevebs gamohyofT?<br />
_ problemebis erT-erTi mTavari<br />
gamomwvevia: umuSevari mSoblebi,<br />
yuradRebis deficiti, mSoblisa<br />
da mozardis arasakmarisi<br />
urTierToba da gadauWreli problemebi.<br />
di mas cxovrebis mniSvnelovan<br />
momentSi ver ekontaqteba.<br />
vimeoreb, udides problemebs<br />
qmnis sabanko da totalizatorebis<br />
sistema, rac axalgazrda Taobis<br />
janmrTelobas namdvil daRad<br />
daesva. es totalizatori dRes<br />
yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi gaxda<br />
da uaryofiTi Sedegebic saxezea,<br />
fsiqikis ngrevas ki am dros bevri<br />
arc sWirdeba;<br />
aseve, rodesac bavSvs adaptirebisTvis<br />
sakmarisi garemo ar aqvs,<br />
elementarulad sakuTari oTaxi<br />
ar gaaCnia... rogorc aRvniSne, qalaqis<br />
mosaxleobis TiTqmis 65% ukve<br />
mdgmurad mcxovrebia, rac iwvevs<br />
ukmayofilebas, agresiasa da<br />
a. S. am dros yvelaze susti wertili<br />
mozardi, studentia xolme.<br />
ufrosi adamianebisgan daumsaxurebel<br />
Seuracxyofas, upirvelesad,<br />
isini iReben.<br />
aris SemTxvevebi, roca pedagogi<br />
ver axerxebs normalur komunikacias<br />
da Seuracxyofaze gadadis,<br />
Tavisive saojaxo problemebze<br />
ganerviulebuli bavSvs sjis (ganaTlebis<br />
sistemaSic mZime situacia<br />
gvaqvs). Sedegic ar ayovnebs. samwuxarod,<br />
dRes skola, erTgvari,<br />
TavSesafari gaxda, rom adamianma<br />
iq xelfasisTvis imuSaos. mokled,<br />
arapedagogiuri damokidebulebac<br />
travmebis safuZvelia.<br />
ojaxisTvis saxelmwifos roli<br />
mniSvnelovania. Cveni mosaxleobis<br />
did nawils xom valebi aqvs da am<br />
realobas bolo 25 weliwadia, Tavs<br />
ver vaRwevT. kontaqti dakargulia<br />
saxelmwifosa da mosaxleobas,<br />
mSobelsa da mozards, pedagogsa<br />
da mozards, eqimsa da pacients Soris,<br />
samagierod, aqtiurad muSaobs<br />
bankebi, totalizatorebi, kazinoebi,<br />
aseve lombardebi da ojaxebis<br />
mZime yofa, pirvel rigSi, mozardebsa<br />
da studentebze aisaxeba.<br />
mTeli saqarTvelos masStabiT<br />
aseve umuSevrobis Zalian didi ma-<br />
Cvenebelia, samsaxuris uqonlobis,<br />
ojaxSi konfliqtis, Zaladobis<br />
Sedegad kidev ufro gauaresebul<br />
garemos viRebT.<br />
nebismieri Zaladoba Sobs Zaladobas.<br />
roca ojaxis romelime wevri<br />
Zaladobis msxverplia, es uk-<br />
Si gansakuTrebuli wyali, haeri,<br />
unikaluri bunebaa, amitom saxelmwifo<br />
unda gaaqtiurdes, raTa yvela<br />
raionis socialur-ekonomikuri<br />
resursi gamoviyenoT, adamianebi<br />
dasaqmdnen da ojaxebis rCena-ganviTareba<br />
SeZlon.<br />
sawarmoebis amuSavebiT, patarpatara<br />
samuSao adgilebis SeqmniT,<br />
Tundac mcire grantebis gacemiT,<br />
rom adamianebma biznesi ganaviTaron,<br />
mdgomareoba mkvdari wertilidan<br />
daiZreba.<br />
am gziT mosaxleoba Tavs aRar<br />
igrZnobs damcirebulad, rom socialurad<br />
daucvelis statusis<br />
miRebisken iltvodes, iyos Raribi<br />
da yvelaferze xeli moaweros. rodesac<br />
qveyanaSi amdeni gzasacdenili,<br />
daavadebuli adamiania (sxvadasxva<br />
azartul TamaSebSi Tavgayofili),<br />
saxelmwifo amas meti pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
unda moekidos.<br />
am fonze, mTeli saqarTvelo gauRimari<br />
dadis. amitom Cveni sloganic<br />
aseTia, _ gamaRime da gavaRimeb.<br />
Tu Cven ver davicaviT moxuci,<br />
daavadebuli, bavSvi da qali<br />
(yvelaze susti sfero), sxva raze<br />
vsaubrobT? es normalur, ganvi-<br />
Tarebul qveynebSi xom yvelaze<br />
daculi kategoriaa. Cveni es mdgomareoba<br />
ki, upirvelesad, ojaxebze,<br />
mis patara wevrebze aisaxeba.<br />
saxelmwifo am adamianebis problemebis<br />
mogvarebis avangardSi<br />
unda idges. aqcenti adamianebis<br />
ucxoeTSi gaqcevasa da maTi miwebis<br />
gayidvaze ar unda keTdebodes.<br />
soflebidan iseTi dedebi gaemgzavrnen,<br />
romelTa wasvlac arafriT<br />
ar SeiZleboda. dedis siTbo da<br />
alersi ar meordeba. am mxriv, yvela<br />
saxelmwifo icavs da ufrTxildeba<br />
Tavis bavSvebs, CvenTan ki<br />
yvela es norma darRveulia.<br />
aseve ganaTlebis sistemaSi profesionalebi<br />
unda SeirCnen, raTa<br />
maTac zidon saTanadod es pasuxismgebloba.<br />
SeiZleba, adamians kargi<br />
ganaTleba hqondes, magram bavSvTan<br />
kontaqti ar SeeZlos.<br />
Tu pedagogma SeZlo sagnis Seyvareba,<br />
am gziT moswavleTa TviT-<br />
Sefasebis kriteriumic amaRlebulia.<br />
jansaR kvebazec gavakeTeb aq-<br />
amitom Cvens mimdinare valod ar qreba, sxvebzec gadadis<br />
cents: bavSvebis, mozardebis 65%-<br />
proeqtsac ase hqvia: „moagvare da vrceldeba. am mxriv rTuli sxva tipis, magaliTad, janmrTelobis<br />
problemebi hqondaT, amitom skolaSi unda iyos, minimum, eradgomiT<br />
unda keTdebodes.<br />
ze mets normaluri, jansaRi kvebis<br />
racioni ar gaaCniaT. Tevzi<br />
problemebi da gacxrile zedmeti”. mdgomareobaa raionebsa da soflebSic.<br />
mouwiaT qveynidan wasvla, ris gam-<br />
Ti praqtikosi fsiqologi, romel-<br />
elementarulad, bavSvebs ar<br />
xSirad gasinjulic ar aqvT. TevziT<br />
ki Tvali ikvebeba.<br />
hyavT momsmeni, romelic maT miswrafebebs<br />
gaiziarebs. pedagogebic algazrdebis dasaqmebis progralemebis<br />
winaSe imyofebian. saku- ki ar daelaparakeba, marto mZime<br />
amitom Cvens organizacias axoc<br />
Tavadac fsiqologiuri probic<br />
aqtiurad imuSavebs. ubralod<br />
amitomaa, rom mozardebis 80%-<br />
saTanadod ver uzrunvelyofen mac aqvs.<br />
Tari janmrTelobis fasad uwevT situaciisas ki ar gaaqtiurdeba<br />
Si mxedvelobis sxvadasxva darmozardTa<br />
uflebebs. calke prob-<br />
_ mSoblebis sazRvargareT<br />
arsebuli problemebis gadaWra. bavSvis dasaxmareblad, aramed Tavidanve,<br />
nabij-nabij, siyvaruliT<br />
Rvevaa, iseve rogorc skolaSi, saxlebSi<br />
magidasTan arasworad jdolemas<br />
warmoadgenen alkoholze<br />
yofnisas mTavar problemas kon-<br />
am periodSi ki bavSvi izrdeba,<br />
damokidebuli mSoblebi, rom-<br />
taqtis nakleboba qmnis?<br />
problemebi aqvs sakuTar sxeul- Secvlis damokidebulebas. es moxdeba<br />
direqciasTan (saministro)<br />
mis gamo, Zalian bevrs xerxemlis<br />
lebic, amave dros, umuSevrebi arian.<br />
ojaxSi mougvarebel probleadad,<br />
kontaqti naklebad ar aris, damokidebuleba saTanadod ver SeTanxmebiT, treningebiT, Sexve-<br />
_ dRevandel situaciaSi, zog-<br />
Tan, garemosTan, ojaxSi, skolaSi<br />
gamrudeba aqvs. es yvelaferi mZime<br />
CanTebis tarebis gamo xdeba.<br />
mebs, suicidis SemTxvevebisas, radgan video-audio, skaipiT dakavSireba<br />
advilad SesaZlebelia, ma-<br />
SemTxvevaSi, unda gaZlierdes rogblebs<br />
da pedagogebs droulad mo-<br />
lagdeba. amitom mimaCnia, rom, am drebiT da a. S., raTa bavSvebs, mSo-<br />
zogjer siyvarulis Tema emateba.<br />
yvelaze seriozuli problema<br />
am dros mozardis sxeulic izrdeba<br />
da garemo Tu adekvaturi ar Siria. realurad, mSobeli mozards rigeblis roli. igive unda moxdes<br />
_ ratom aris sazogadoeba, saxaxis<br />
ufrosebs saSualeba ar aqvT,<br />
gram es mxolod virtualuri kav- orc saskolo pedagogis, aseve damugvardes<br />
wamoWrili problemebi.<br />
ki saTnado racionis arqonaa. oj-<br />
aris, sirTuleebic iqve Cndeba. ver akontrolebs. Tanxebs ki agzavnian,<br />
magram yvelaze mniSvnelovani dasjadi meqanizmis saxiT, aramed<br />
gulgrili da gamosavals sad xe-<br />
aseve Zalian Zviri Rirs xili.<br />
sabavSvo baRSi. es yvelaferi ara<br />
elmwifo am yvelafris mimarT<br />
aranairi Semosavali ar gaaCniaT.<br />
aseve, sazogadoebriv transportSi<br />
mozardebs, moswavleebs rac aris, arasrulwlovan adamians damrigeblis meti yuradReba-Tan-<br />
davT?<br />
mniSvnelovania socialuri faqtoric<br />
_ es im fonze, roca qveyanaSi<br />
katastrofulad gaizarda da-<br />
xSirad e. w. monitoringis Tanam- mSobeli, gansakuTrebiT deda,<br />
Sromlebi amcireben. maT kerZo gverdiT unda hyavdes. swored man<br />
`sazogadoebriv transportSi mozardebs,<br />
ngreul ojaxTa raodenoba, mozardobisas<br />
mamebisgan mitovebuli<br />
interesi aqvT, rac ufro metad unda miaqcios yuradReba mis zr-<br />
moswavleebs xSirad e. w. monitoringis<br />
daajarimeben, miT ukeTesia maT- das, qcevebs, fsiqologiur prob-<br />
TanamSromlebi amcireben. maT kerZo interesi<br />
Svilebi, Ralatis Tema. bavSvi, mozardi<br />
fiqrobs, rom mamam mas uR-<br />
Tvis, amitom, ZiriTadad, arasrulwlovnebze<br />
„nadiroben”, romleb-<br />
da siTbo Zalian mniSvnelovania.<br />
aqvT, rac ufro metad daajarimeben, miT<br />
sac mxolod imis gamo sjian, rom yvelaze mtkivneulia, rom wa-<br />
ukeTesia maTTvis, amitom, ZiriTadad,<br />
alata, is uRirsi adamiani iyo, amlemebs,<br />
am dros dedis yuradReba<br />
moswavlis bileTi Tan ar aqvT. sulebi arian baRis asakis, dawyebiTebSi<br />
myofi bavSvebis mSoblebi.<br />
itom miatova da a. S. esec fsiqika-<br />
arasrulwlovnebze `nadiroben~, romlebsac<br />
problemas qmnis sazRvargareT<br />
ze rTulad aisaxeba. damatebiT<br />
mxolod imis gamo sjian, rom moswavlis<br />
sarCosTvis wasuli mSobeli, gasakuTrebiT<br />
deda, rodesac mozarli<br />
ar aqvT, bankis vali daedoT, Tu<br />
bileTi Tan ar aqvT~<br />
bulebaze da<br />
es imitom, rom sakmarisi Semosava-<br />
aRarafers vityvi narkodamokide-<br />
sxv.<br />
lika beburiZe:<br />
`sabanko da<br />
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sistema axalgazrda<br />
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mwvave dapirispirebis sagnad iqca. sazogadoebis didi nawili<br />
ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebze sasoflo-sameurneo daniSnulebis<br />
miwebis gasxvisebis winaaRmdegia. sasoflo-sameurneo daniSnulebis<br />
miwis ucxoelebze gayidvis sakiTxi am dromde bolom-<br />
de gadawyvetili ar aris. erTiani pozicia ar arsebobs Tavad<br />
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Savdes, igive situacia gagrZe-<br />
ldeba, rac axla aris”. amaze<br />
ras ityviT?<br />
_ saxelmwifos swori da Tanmimdevruli<br />
politikis SemTxvevaSi<br />
maqsimalurad daculi iqneba<br />
qarTuli miwac da adgilo-<br />
irine fxoveliSvili:<br />
`es aris qveynis<br />
teritoriebis<br />
usisxlo aneqsia<br />
da ara investicia!~<br />
„qronika+~-s esaubreba saqa-<br />
rTvelos fermerTa da soflis<br />
meurneobis muSakTa profesiu-<br />
li kavSiris xelmZRvaneli da<br />
koalicia „faris” erT-erTi<br />
damfuZnebeli _ irine fxove-<br />
liSvili:<br />
_ qalatono irine, sakonsti-<br />
tucio sakiTxebze Seqmnilma<br />
komisiam gadawyvita, rom sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
miwebis ucx-<br />
oel moqalaqeebze gayidvasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT regulaciebi organuli<br />
kanonis mixedviT gan-<br />
isazRvros. rogor fiqrobT,<br />
ratom aris imis aucilebloba,<br />
rom es sakiTxi, maincdamainc,<br />
konstituciiT daregulirdes?<br />
_ miwa aris Cveni sulieri,<br />
kulturuli, istoriuli, politikuri,<br />
ekologiuri dabolos,<br />
ekonomikur fenomeni, igi<br />
aris Seucvleli, gaumravlebeli<br />
da „amowurvadi” (SezRuduli)<br />
resursi, amitom saxelmwifos<br />
mxridan gonivruli da<br />
swori mmarTvelobaa saWiro da<br />
ara gaumarTlebeli gadawyvetilebebis<br />
miReba, _ aucilebelia<br />
konstituciaSi gakeTdes specialuri<br />
Canaweri, rom „miwa warmoadgens<br />
qarTuli saxelmwifos<br />
gansakuTrebuli zrunvis<br />
obieqts, radgan igi aris qarTuli<br />
saxelmwifosa da saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis TviTmyofadobis<br />
garanti”. rac Seexeba regulaciebis<br />
organuli kanonis<br />
mixedviT gansazRvras, unda iyos<br />
konstituciidan gamomdinare<br />
da mkacrad gawerili. Cven<br />
bolo wlebis mware gamocdileba<br />
gvaqvs, Tu rogor Sedis<br />
cvlilebebi kanonebSi ise, rom<br />
amis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi<br />
yvelaze gvian vigebT.<br />
amisTvis moratoriumis dros<br />
ganxorcielebuli cvlilebis<br />
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magaliTic kmara, rodesac erTi<br />
patara gancxadebis safuZvelze<br />
advilad xdeba sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
miwis arasasoflo-sameurneo<br />
miwis kategoriaSi gadayvana<br />
da gasxviseba, ris gamoc qveynis<br />
saxnav-saTesi miwebis adgilze<br />
araqarTul, araqristianul<br />
soflebs Caeyara safuZveli.<br />
ar momeZebneba Sesaferisi<br />
sityva im pirebis Sesafaseblad,<br />
vinc am process investirebas<br />
uwodebs. Cveni SefasebiT, es<br />
aris qveynis teritoriebis usisxlo<br />
aneqsia da ara investicia.<br />
rodesac qveyanas ar gaaCnia aRiarebuli<br />
sazRvari sam mezobel<br />
saxelmwifosTan, rodesac zogierT<br />
regionSi miwis reforma<br />
ar ganxorcielebula da adgilobriv<br />
mosaxleobas sakuTrebaSi<br />
ar gadascemia miwis nakveTebi,<br />
rodesac ar gvaqvs miwis kodeqsi<br />
da bolos ar gvaqvs zusti<br />
monacemebi dRes arsebuli<br />
miwis fondis Sesaxeb, yovlad<br />
gaumarTlebeli da aragonivrulia<br />
e. w. qveynis ekonomikis<br />
„gaZlierebis” momizezebiT miwebis<br />
ucxoelebze gasxviseba.<br />
samwuxarod, gasxvisebul miwebs<br />
Soris aris moxvedrili sasazRvro<br />
zolSi moqceuli miwebic.<br />
2016 wlis bolosTvis sasazRvro<br />
zolSi gasxvisebulia 3000<br />
erTeulamde miwis nakveTi, saidanac<br />
70%-mde gasxvisebulia<br />
ucxoelze. vin unda daicvas isedac<br />
daucveli saqarTvelos<br />
sazRvari(?!).<br />
_ konstituciaSi specialuri<br />
Canaweris SetanisTvis peticiaze<br />
xelmowerebis Se-<br />
groveba daiwyeT. ucxoelebze<br />
sasoflo-sameurneo miwis miy-<br />
idviT ra safrTxe SeiZleba<br />
Seeqmnas qveyanas?<br />
_ 2012 wlis 11 maiss sursa-<br />
Tis usafrTxoebis msoflio<br />
komitetis specialur sesiaze<br />
ganixiles da daamtkices FAO-s<br />
mier momzadebuli „miwisa da masze<br />
dakavSirebuli sxva resursebis<br />
gonivruli mmarTvelobis<br />
saxelmZRvanelo”, romelsac 128<br />
qveyanam erTxmad dauWira mxari,<br />
maT Soris iyo saqarTveloc. marTalia,<br />
es saxelmZRvanelo nebayoflobiTi<br />
saxelmZRvaneloa,<br />
magram aqve gasaTvaliswinebe-<br />
lia gaeros mier Sefasebuli<br />
2007-2008 wlebis sasursaTo<br />
krizisis Semdeg gavrcelebuli<br />
movlenis, „miwis datacebis”<br />
(land grabbing) sapasuxod da adamianis<br />
ZiriTadi uflebebis,<br />
maT Soris, resursebsa da sakvebze<br />
xelmisawvdomobis uflebebis<br />
darRvevis Tavidan asacileblad<br />
gasatarebeli RonisZiebebi.<br />
sakiTxi exeba globalur samxreTs<br />
(anu msoflios SedarebiT<br />
Rarib nawils, sadac saqarTveloc<br />
moiazreba), miwebis datacebas<br />
mdidari da ganviTarebuli<br />
qveynebis mxridan, rac Tavisi<br />
arsiT ara investicia, aramed<br />
usisxlo okupaciaa.<br />
_ eqspert paata SeSeliZis<br />
azriT, ucxoelze miwis gayid-<br />
vis SesaZlebloba yvelas unda<br />
hqondes, radgan „rogorc ki<br />
saerTaSoriso bazris nawili<br />
gaxdeba qarTuli miwa, misi gamoyenebis<br />
masStabebi gaizrdeba.<br />
saqarTveloSi miwis potenciis<br />
mcire nawilia gamoy-<br />
enebuli mxolod imitom, rom<br />
gayidva ar SeiZleboda. Tu vi-<br />
nmes miwis yidva unda, saqarT-<br />
velos moqalaqes gaurigdeba<br />
da misi saxeliT iyidis. es iqneba<br />
korufcia da mas miwis ga-<br />
Zvireba mohyveba. Tu ar gvin-<br />
brivi fermerebic. samwuxarod,<br />
dRes miwis fondis gankargva<br />
xdeba TiTqmis yvela saministros<br />
sxvadasxva uwyebaSi. paradoqsia,<br />
rom soflis meurneoba-<br />
Si saxelmwifo politikis gamtarebeli<br />
soflis meurneobis saministroa,<br />
xolo sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
miwebis ganmkargveli<br />
da gamyidveli aris ekonomikis<br />
saministro.<br />
problema manam ar gadaiWreba,<br />
sanam miwis marTvis erTiani<br />
samsaxuri ar Seiqmneba, romelic<br />
iqneba miwebis gonivruli<br />
mmarTvelobis xazis gamtarebeli,<br />
miwis fondis dacvisa da<br />
misi ekonomikuri potencialis<br />
gazrdis garanti.<br />
_ Tqvenma organizaciam kvlevis<br />
procesSi sakmaod skan-<br />
daluri dokumentebi moipova.<br />
dokumentacia saqarTvelos<br />
mTavar prokuraturaSi wara-<br />
dgineT da miwebis privatizebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT mTavrobis<br />
gadawyvetilebebis gauqme-<br />
ba moiTxoveT. ra etapzea am<br />
saqmis gamoZieba?<br />
_ samwuxaroa, rom prokuraturam<br />
am etapze danaSaulis<br />
niSnebi TviTon ver naxa da gamoZiebis<br />
„tvirTi” Cven mogvando,<br />
amitom Cven sakuTari ZalebiT<br />
vcdilobT davadginoT Semdegi<br />
faqtebi: 1992 wlis 6 ianvridan<br />
20 ianvramde arsebobda<br />
Tu ara saqarTvelos respublikis<br />
ministrTa kabineti? dadebiTi<br />
pasuxis SemTxvevaSi, vin xelmZRvanelobda<br />
ministrTa kabinets?<br />
samwuxarod, dRemde am<br />
sajaro informaciaze oficialuri<br />
pasuxi ver miviReT. mokvlevas<br />
ganvagrZobT da Sedegs<br />
aucileblad SegatyobinebT.<br />
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miTvisebaze sasamarTlo procesi grZeldeba. dazaralebul-<br />
Ta gancxadebiT, TaRliTurma jgufma 4800 kv.m. ise miiTvisa<br />
da gaasxvisa, rom aravin araferi icoda. maTive TqmiT, stiqia<br />
rom ar momxdariyo, amis Sesaxeb verafers gaigebdnen.<br />
„qronika+” veris xeobaSi stiqiis<br />
Sedegad dazaralebul le-<br />
van oqropiriZes esaubreba:<br />
_ TaRliTur jgufTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT sasamarTlo procesi gr-<br />
Zeldeba da dazaralebulebi mas<br />
Tvalyurs vadevnebT. am etapze,<br />
mosamarTlis moqmedeba gvakmayofilebs,<br />
rac Seexeba braldebulebs,<br />
isini saqmes Zalian welaven.<br />
warmodgena ar maqvs, kidev ra<br />
Caifiqres. SemiZlia, asi procentiT<br />
ganvacxado, rom sicruea yvelaferi,<br />
rasac ki isini acxadeben.<br />
mamaCemi aq, veris xeobaSi, 1960<br />
wlidan cxovrobda. Tavis droze,<br />
bebiaCemi raionidan Camovida (sadac<br />
gaTxovili iyo) da saxli<br />
aaSena. am adgilas mitovebuli miwebi<br />
iyo. me 1981 wels davibade,<br />
xolo Cemi Zma _ 78-Si.<br />
mand karga xani vicxovreT.<br />
mere raRac problemebi Segveqmna<br />
da iqidan cal-calke gadmovediT.<br />
Semdeg me davojaxdi da isev davbrundi.<br />
stiqiamde, daaxloebiT,<br />
ori wliT adre moxda es ambavi.<br />
adgilze isev Cveulebrivad vcxovrobdiT.<br />
bolos iseTi situacia iyo,<br />
rom stiqiamde erTi TviT adre<br />
maqedan isev wamosuli viyavi. adgilze<br />
alkoholze damokidebuli<br />
biZaCemi cxovrobda. mogexsenebaT,<br />
rogori gausaZlisi iqneboda<br />
or bavSvTan erTad aseT pirobeb-<br />
Si yofna.<br />
wamovedi da axla Cemi colisZmis<br />
nagiraveb binaSi vcxovrobdi.<br />
es stiqia rom moxda, vakis gamgeobam<br />
binis qira, 300 lari daminiSna.<br />
aqve qiriT, e. w. muxianis agarakebSi<br />
davrCi.<br />
ukve stiqiis periodSi daxmareba-anazRaurebis<br />
misaRebad<br />
sabuTebze rom vmuSaobdiT, yvelaferi<br />
TandaTanobiT gamovlinda<br />
da gairkva, anu 13-Si stiqia<br />
rom moxda, „Telasis” sabuTi momTxoves,<br />
_ misamarTze gadasaxadis<br />
qviTari vis saxelze modiodao?<br />
Cavedi 15-Si „TelasSi” da<br />
sabuTi aviRe. im momentSi bebiaCemis,<br />
JuJuna oqropiriZis saxelze<br />
iyo.<br />
mere gamgeobam sabuTebi momTxova,<br />
rom binis qiris Tanxa<br />
daericxa. isev Cavedi „TelasSi”,<br />
axla ukve 17-Si da am TaRliTebs<br />
sabuTi ukve gadakeTebuli hqondaT.<br />
es saqme orma advokatma, aseve<br />
javaxiSvilma da gubelaZem (gamyidveli<br />
da keTilsindisieri myidveli)<br />
gaakeTes. xom xvdebiT, or<br />
dReSi raRac iseTi sqema SeimuSaves,<br />
rom Tavisi WkuiT yvelaferi<br />
moagvares da komunaluri sabuTebic<br />
ukve sxva gvarze modioda.<br />
mokled, 15 ivniss sabuTi Ju-<br />
Juna oqropiriZis saxelze aviRe<br />
da ukve 17-Si aRar momces, _ gubelaZis<br />
saxelzea sabuTebi da oqropiriZeze<br />
veRar gavcemTo. imis<br />
mere daiwyo gamoZieba, Tu ra da<br />
rogor moxda.<br />
_ sanam gamoZiebaze gadavalT,<br />
registraciis sakiTxi rogor<br />
idga aRniSnul teritoriaze?<br />
_ iciT, rogor aris? _ es saxlebi<br />
(aRniSnul teritoriaze<br />
rom dgas) registrirebuli aravisze<br />
ar iyo. rogorc mogaxseneT,<br />
Zalian didi xnis winaT aaSenes.<br />
ubralod, gadasaxadebi: gazi, deni,<br />
wyali im mosaxleobis saxelze<br />
modioda, vinc iq wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
realurad cxovrobda.<br />
anu TviTon bina, saxli, miwa,<br />
teritoria aravisze oficialurad<br />
registrirebuli ar yofila.<br />
raxan deni gamoyvanili iyo da<br />
Cveulebrivad vsargeblobdiT,<br />
Sesabamisad, bebiaCemis, anu mama-<br />
Cemis dedis, JuJuna oqropiriZis<br />
saxelze iyo registrirebuli.<br />
_ es veris xeobaSi, daaxloe-<br />
biT, romeli teritoriaa?<br />
_ TamaraSvili-gmirTa moednis<br />
damakavSirebel axal gzaze stiqiis<br />
dros daRupulTa memoriali<br />
rom gaakeTes, gvirabidan, daaxloebiT,<br />
as metrSia Cemi saxli,<br />
iqve mdinare veris napirzea.<br />
_ rogor moaxerxes aRniSnu-<br />
li dokumentaciis Secvla,<br />
razec Tqven saubrobT?<br />
_ Tavidanve aRvniSnav, rom<br />
prokuratura sworad moiqca da<br />
es saqme Tavidan bolomde gamoi-<br />
Zia. es adamianebi 22 dekembers daapatimres,<br />
28-Si brali wauyenes.<br />
samTviani winaswari patimroba Seufardes.<br />
am mdgomareobaSi isini,<br />
TiTqmis, 5 Tve iyvnen.<br />
kmayofili var mosamarTlis<br />
verdiqtiT, roca es adamianebi patimrobidan<br />
gaaTavisufla, radgan<br />
Cven aranairi interesi ar gvaqvs<br />
vinmes daWeris, cixeSi jdomis,<br />
wamebisa da wvalebis... Cveni<br />
zaralis anazRaurebas viTxovT.<br />
Svidi ojaxi varT da rac gvekuTvnis,<br />
is mogvcen.<br />
aravis cixeSi jdoma ar gvinda<br />
da es siamovnebas ar mogvaniWebs.<br />
ubralod, or advokats giraos<br />
saxiT 30 aTasi Sufardes, xolo<br />
javaxiSvilsa da gubelaZes (gamyidvelsa<br />
da keTilsindisier myidvels)<br />
_ 15-15 aTasi.<br />
ubralod, axla saTanado zomebi<br />
miiRon, gaiTvaliswinon yvelaferi<br />
saqmesTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
Tu ra da rogor aris.<br />
bolo sasamarTlozec prokuraturam<br />
am jgufs axali bralde-<br />
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veris xeobis<br />
dazaralebuli<br />
xelisuflebisgan<br />
saTanado<br />
kompensacias<br />
iTxovs<br />
bebi wauyena. mgonia, rom mosamar-<br />
Tle am yvelafers gaiTvaliswinebs<br />
da saTanado gamamtyunebel<br />
gadawvetilebas miiRebs. ase vfiqrob,<br />
radgan mjera sasamarTlosi,<br />
mTavrobisac da prokuraturisac.<br />
_ ra damatebiT braldebazea<br />
saubari?<br />
_ simarTle giTxraT, amas arc<br />
vimaxsovreb, iseT gancdasa da<br />
gasaWirSi var. marto me ki ara,<br />
Svidi ojaxi Zalian rTul mdgomareobaSi<br />
vimyofebiT. ori bavSvi<br />
myavs, 2 da sami wlis arian da sakuTari<br />
Weri ar gamaCnia.<br />
rogorc Cans, maT msgavsi TaRliTuri<br />
sqema sxvaganac SeimuSaves<br />
da amazec brali wauyenes.<br />
amasTan, prokuraturas Cvens saqmeze<br />
videomasala aqvs, sxva bevri<br />
ram, rac simarTles adasturebs.<br />
albaT, dro mova da am yvelafers<br />
bolomde gamoamJRavneben.<br />
_ am sqemis amoqmedeba rogor<br />
moaxerxes, es detalebi Tu aris<br />
TqvenTvis cnobili?<br />
_ CvenTvis rac cnobilia, mcxeTaSi<br />
notarius lela onians gaakeTebines<br />
yalbi sabuTebi da SecdomaSi<br />
Seiyvanes. bevrTagan erTerTi<br />
es braldeba aqvT wayenebuli.<br />
amaze ufro konkretulad verafers<br />
mogaxsenebT.<br />
mokled, gubelaZem gayida teritoriebi,<br />
mere gaasxvises, viTom<br />
Cuqeba gaakeTes, ai, aseTi<br />
raRacebi CaxlarTulad gaakeTes.<br />
mag saqmeSi araprofesionali var,<br />
profesionalebi TviTon arian da<br />
sjobs, TviTonve ganmarton es<br />
yvelaferi.<br />
_ aRniSnul pirebs manamde<br />
teritoriasTan aranairi Sexeba<br />
ar hqoniaT?<br />
_ sam pirovnebas aranairi Sexeba<br />
ar hqonia. erT-erTi, gubelaZe,<br />
mand, daaxloebiT, 70 wlidan<br />
cxovrobda. misi mamobili cxovrobda<br />
aRniSnul teritoriaze.<br />
coli rom moiyvana da im qals<br />
Tavisi Svili moyva, 2008-Si saakaSvilis<br />
dros zeviTa gza rom ga-<br />
Wres, maT zemoT sadRac 300 kv.m.<br />
saxli hqondaT. es saxli mTavrobam<br />
daungria da 180 aTasi dolari<br />
amaze kompensaciis saxiT<br />
gadauxades. aiRo gubelaZem es<br />
kompensacia da iqidan wavida. mere<br />
es ambavi aRaravis moukiTxavs.<br />
iciT, ra mainteresebs (albaT,<br />
am kiTxvas Cveni mxridanac da<br />
prokuraturis mxridanac dasvamen),<br />
_ es keTilsindisieri myidveli<br />
javaxiSvili acxadebs, rom<br />
2012-Si es miwebi viyide da CemTan<br />
aravin mosula da ar uTqvams, rom<br />
Cemi saxli iyide da ratom yidulobo?<br />
gTxovT, xazi gausvaT, raTa<br />
mkiTxvelma es kargad gaiTavisos.<br />
rodesac mag miwas yidulobdnen,<br />
an es gubelaZe rom yidda, Tu<br />
marTla misi iyo, ratom ar movida<br />
am xalxTan da uTxra, rom me<br />
vyidi am miwebs, amdeni xani aq Cems<br />
teritoriaze cxovrobdiT, Tqven<br />
moZebneT sxva TavSesafari da<br />
raRac imoqmedeTo? xom unda mosuliyo<br />
da aq erTi ojaxi mainc<br />
gaefrTxilebina?<br />
an Tundac es qalbatoni, vinc<br />
viTomda keTilsindisieri myidvelis<br />
rolSi gamodis, xom unda mosuliyo<br />
da eTqva, rom me es saxlkari<br />
unda viyido da ra xdeba aq,<br />
visia, ratom cxovrobT da rogor<br />
cxovrobT am teritoriazeo?<br />
pirovneba manqanas rom yidulobs,<br />
detalurad ikvlevs mepatrones,<br />
visi iyo, axla visia, rame<br />
jarimebi xom ar aqvs da a. S. hoda,<br />
CvenTan aravin mosula da aravis<br />
gavufrTxilebivarT.<br />
axla amboben, rom viTom Cven<br />
gubelaZis binaSi vcxovrobdiT.<br />
qiriT rogor vxovrobdiT, roca<br />
60 wlidan dRemde, stiqiamde, arc<br />
rame qira mouTxoviaT da arc gadasaxadi?<br />
erTaderTi, rogorc<br />
mogaxseneT, denis komunalur gadasaxads<br />
vixdidiT. Tu qiriT<br />
vcxovrobdiT, saxelmwifo biujetSi<br />
dRg ratom ar Segvqonda?<br />
esec xom kidev erTi faqtoria?<br />
ubralod, gamoZiebam es kargad<br />
unda gamoikvlios da yvelaferi<br />
Tavis adgilze dadgeba. Zalian<br />
didi imedi maqvs, rom mosamarTle<br />
Cvens saqmeze Sesabamis gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiRebs.<br />
_ zaralis anazRaurebis sak-<br />
iTxi sadamde aris misuli?<br />
_ seqtembramde qiras dagiricxavT<br />
da iqamde es saqme unda<br />
morCeso. Tu am oTx pirovnebas<br />
gamamtyunebel ganaCens gamoutanen,<br />
maSin rac gvekuTnis, im safasurs<br />
gadagvixdian. SeiZleba, biniT<br />
uzrunvelgvyon, SeiZleba, sa-<br />
Tanado kompensacia mogvcen. mgoni,<br />
es ukve mTavrobis gadasawyvetia.<br />
aranairi damatebiTi informacia<br />
ar maqvs, es kompensacia sad<br />
da ra formiT iqneba. adgilze<br />
dRes Cemi saxli saerTod aRar<br />
dgas. am teritoriaze erTader-<br />
Ti gelaSvilis saxli dgas, romlis<br />
naTesavebic varT. misi saxli<br />
dangreuli ar aris, magram wyali<br />
Sesulia da sacxovreblad uvargisia.<br />
am teritoriaze saxlis aSeneba<br />
da cxovrebac ukve dauSvebelia.<br />
_ Tqveni winadadeba, mainc,<br />
rogoria zianis anazRaurebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ Cemi azriT, es mainc fuladi<br />
kompensaciis saxiT unda moxdes,<br />
radgan mand davibade, gavizarde<br />
da a. S. axla maT foniWalaSi an<br />
ufro Sors biniT rom uzrunvelmyon,<br />
es namdvilad ar mawyobs.<br />
rac iqneba, iqneba, mTavaria, Weri<br />
iyos da bavSvebi quCaSi ar damrCes.<br />
simarTle giTxraT, am sakiTxze<br />
bevri arc mifiqria, radgan<br />
Zalian cud mdgomareobaSi<br />
var. axla kompensacia momcen da<br />
arCevanSi Sevide, esec zedmetoba<br />
gamodis. mokled, jer es TaRli-<br />
Tobis saqme bolomde unda mivides<br />
da mere Cveni ziani unda<br />
anazRaurdes.<br />
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gamocxadebuli<br />
wlis maisis dasawyisSi ki kaizeris<br />
mTavrobam a ukve kavkasiis strategiul<br />
regionsac miapyroyuradReb.<br />
Tavidanve ganvsazRvroT, Tu ra<br />
miznebi amoZravebda germanias kavkasiaSi:<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom pirvel<br />
msoflio omSi osmaleTis imperia<br />
misi mokavSire iyo, amierkavkasiaSi<br />
TurqeTis sruli gabatoneba<br />
germaniis interesebSi ar Sedioda.<br />
idealur SemTxvevaSi, germania<br />
kavkasiaSi, erTgvari, proteqtoratis,<br />
„Schutzstaat”-is Seqmnas gegmavda,<br />
romelic ruseTsa da TurqeTs<br />
Soris buferis rols Seasrulebda<br />
da am regionSi germanuli politikis<br />
gatarebas uzrunvelyofda.<br />
germanias kavkasiaSi mkafiod<br />
Camoyalibebuli ekonomikuri miznebi<br />
amoZravebda, romelic, Sesabamisad,<br />
mis politikasac gansazRvravda.<br />
ZiriTadi interesi, ra Tqma<br />
unda, bunebrivi resursebiT mdidari<br />
regionis srulfasovani aTviseba<br />
iyo: WiaTuris manganumi, baqos<br />
navTobi, qvanaxSiri, spilenZi,<br />
Turquli armiis oficrebi, aTaTurqis garemocvaSi<br />
1918 wlis maisi. umniSvnelovanesi<br />
drois monakveTi saqarTvelos<br />
uaxles istoriaSi. damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebamde sul ramdenime<br />
kvira rCeba, Tumca sagareo<br />
da saSinao foni imdenad mZimea,<br />
rom qveyanas kargs arafers uqadis.<br />
1918 wlis aprilSi osmaleTsa da<br />
amierkavkasiis federacias Soris<br />
trapizonSi gamarTulma molaparakebam<br />
Sedegi ver gamoiRo, ris Semdegac<br />
Turqulma armiam qveynis sazRvrebi<br />
gadmolaxa da swrafad<br />
daiwyo brest-litovskis sazavo<br />
pirobebiT misTvis mikuTvnebuli<br />
teritoriebis dakaveba.<br />
osmalebma, praqtikulad, ubr-<br />
Zolvelad aiRes baTumi, sakuTar<br />
kontrols dauqvemdebares mTeli<br />
aWara, arTvini da ardagani; Sevidnen<br />
ozurgeTSi, mesxeT-javaxeTSi<br />
da borjomamde miaRwies. saqarTvelo,<br />
romelic Turqul agresias verafers<br />
upirispirebda, sruli okupaciis<br />
safrTxis winaSe aRmoCnda.<br />
osmalebTan axali molaparakeba<br />
ukve okupirebul baTumSi dainiSna.<br />
am molaparakebas unda gadaewyvita<br />
axlad daarsebuli amierkavkasiis<br />
demokratiuli federaciuli<br />
respublikis sazRvrebi da<br />
misi momavali bedi.<br />
trapizonis samSvidobo konferenciisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT, baTumis<br />
SexvedrisTvis amierkavkasiis federaciis<br />
mdgomareoba sagrZnoblad<br />
damZimda. Tu trapizonSi TurqeTi,<br />
ZiriTadad, brest-litovskis sazavo<br />
pirobebis Sesrulebas moiTxovda,<br />
amJamad osmalTa mada gaizarda<br />
da samSvidobo SeTanxmebis sanacvlod<br />
isini axal pirobas ayenebdnen.<br />
TurqeTi kavkasiaSi im poziciis<br />
dabrunebas cdilobda, romelic<br />
man 1828-1829 wlebSi ruseT-<br />
Tan omis Sedegad dakarga. saqarTvelos<br />
SemTxvevaSi es osmalTa<br />
mflobelobaSi mTeli mesxeT-javaxeTis<br />
gadacemas niSnavda.<br />
Tumca trapizonisgan gansxvavebiT<br />
mdgomareoba im mxrivac Seicvala,<br />
rom kavkasiis gadanawilebis<br />
procesSi, Turqebis garda, kidev<br />
erTi mxare _ germania CaerTo. germaniis<br />
imperiam ruseTis bolSevikur<br />
mTavrobas brest-litovskSi<br />
separatuli zavis dadeba aiZula,<br />
romlis Sedegadac misi gavlenis<br />
qveS moeqca udidesi teritoria<br />
baltiis zRvidan Sav zRvamde. 1918<br />
34<br />
Sulenburgi<br />
xe-tye _ yvelaferi es germanuli<br />
kapitalisTvis sakmaod mimzidveli<br />
Canda. am nedleulis trasportirebisTvis<br />
ki aucilebel pirobas<br />
kavkasiis sarkinigzo xazsa da Savi<br />
zRvis navsadgurebze kontrolis<br />
daweseba warmoadgenda.<br />
yovelive amis ganxorcieleba<br />
TavisTavad gulisxmobda region-<br />
Si germanuli samxedro kontingentis<br />
mudmiv ganTavsebas. kavkasiaze<br />
saubrisas feldmarSali ludendorfi<br />
Riad acxadebda, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
aucilebeli iyo samxedro<br />
bazis Seqmna, romelic regionSi<br />
germanul investiciasa da<br />
kavkasiis satransporto arterias<br />
erTdroulad daicavda.<br />
sakuTari politikis gasatareblad<br />
germanias saqarTveloSi sakmaod<br />
kargi dasayrdeni hqonda: jer<br />
kidev XIX saukunis 20-ian wlebSi<br />
germaniidan saqarTveloSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
7 aTasamde emigranti Camosaxlda,<br />
romlebmac aq ramdenime<br />
kolonia daaarses. droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />
germanuli diaspora kidev<br />
ufro gaizarda. germanelebi aqtiurad<br />
monawileobdnen saqarTvelos<br />
cxovrebaSi da ucxoel investorTa<br />
Soris erT-erT wamyvan adgils<br />
ikavebdnen. tfilisSi filiali<br />
hqonda cnobil germanul firma<br />
„zingers”, gaxsnili iyo „doiCe<br />
bankis” warmomadgenloba, funqcionirebda<br />
germanelebis mier dafuZnebuli<br />
ludis qarxnebi.<br />
germanelTa roli saqarTvelo-<br />
`TurqebisTvis germanuli droSa sakmarisi<br />
aRmoCnda, rom jarebis winsvla SeeCerebinaT. am<br />
istorias generali giorgi mazniaSvili ase<br />
ixsenebs: `12 aprilis Ramis 3 saaTze Sikrikma<br />
gadmomca mTavrobis depeSa, romelSic<br />
matyobinebdnen, rom Cvenma mTavrobam Sehkra<br />
piroba germaniasTan, ris ZaliTac germania ar<br />
miscems nebas osmaleTs, win wamoiwios. am<br />
depeSasTan erTad Cems gankargulebaSi<br />
igzavneboda germaneTis qveiTi jaris gundi<br />
oficris ufrosobiT. me unda mimeca nebarTva<br />
germaneli oficrisaTvis, gamoekida mas<br />
germaneTis bairaRi Coloqis xidze, agreTve<br />
unda mimeca misTvis saSualeba, gadasuliyo<br />
osmalebTan da gamoecxada maTTvis, rom am<br />
dRidan saqarTvelos teritoria imyofeboda<br />
germaneTis jarebis mfarvelobis qveS.<br />
gamogzavnili gundi unda darCeniliyo<br />
natanebSi. germaneTis bairaRi unda<br />
aRmarTuliyo agreTve natanebis sadgurzedac~<br />
xalili sami bei<br />
Si imdenad didi iyo, rom, jer<br />
kidev, mefis ruseTis dros tfilisSi<br />
maTi sakonsuloc ki gaixsna.<br />
am sakonsulos 1911 wlidan grafi<br />
Sulenburgi xelmZRvanelobda, magram<br />
pirveli msoflio omis dawyebis<br />
Semdeg, sadac germania ruse-<br />
Tis mowinaaRmdege iyo, sakonsulo<br />
daixura, xolo Sulenburgi saqarTvelodan<br />
samSobloSi gaiwvies.<br />
ra Tqma unda, ruseTis imperia-<br />
Si dawyebulma qaosma sakuTari<br />
gavlena saqarTveloSi germanul<br />
diasporazec iqonia. gaxSirda Tavdasxmebi<br />
germanul koloniebze,<br />
romlebsac muslimTa moTareSe<br />
razmebi arbevdnen. amis gamo amierkavkasiis<br />
seimma 1918 wlis TebervalSi<br />
specialuri gankarguleba<br />
gamosca. am gankargulebis Tanaxmad,<br />
qarTuli korpusis SemadgenlobaSi<br />
germanuli SenaerTi Camoyalibda,<br />
romelsac germanuli dasaxlebebi<br />
Tavdasxmisgan unda daecva.<br />
imave periodSi, anu 1918 wlis<br />
TebervalSive, kavkasiaSi mcxovrebi<br />
germanelebis erovnuli sabWo<br />
Seiqmna. am sabWos sakoordinacio<br />
funqcia hqonda da, amave dros, germanelTa<br />
Sejerebul pozicias gamoxatavda.<br />
kavSiris wevrebi: bernStaini<br />
da biuli, SemdgomSi saqar-<br />
Tvelos damfuZnebeli krebis deputatebadac<br />
ki airCies. amdenad,<br />
germanias saqarTveloSi sakmaod<br />
Zlieri pozicia hqonda.<br />
germaniis samxedro wreebTan<br />
qarTveli politikosebis intensiuri<br />
urTierToba 1918 wlis gazafxulze<br />
daiwyo. erTi mxriv, Turquli,<br />
meore mxriv ki bolSevikuri<br />
safrTxis fonze, saqarTvelo,<br />
ubralod, iZulebuli iyo, Zlieri<br />
sagareo partniori moeZebna. am<br />
TvalsazrisiT, germaniis mfarveloba<br />
idealur variants warmoadgenda.<br />
brest-litovskis zavidan gamomdinare,<br />
germanuli faqtori<br />
ruseTisgan saqarTvelos xelSeuxeblobis<br />
myar garantias warmoadgenda;<br />
xolo rac Seexeboda TurqeTs,<br />
kaizeris mTavrobas Tavad<br />
hqonda kavkasiis regionis mimarT<br />
interesi da amdenad igi bunebrivad<br />
SeZlebda TurqeTis gazrdili<br />
ambiciebis Sekavebas.<br />
germanias rom realurad hqonda<br />
kavkasiis regionis mimarT sakuTari<br />
gegmebi, es, jer kidev, 1918<br />
wlis aprilSi, TurqTa saqarTveloSi<br />
SemoWris dros gamoCnda. 13<br />
aprils, rodesac osmalebma baTumi<br />
daikaves da ozurgeTis mimarTulebiT<br />
gaagrZeles Seteva, maTi<br />
Sekaveba mdinare ColoqTan, metwilad,<br />
swored germanelTa meSveobiT<br />
moxerxda. osmalTa winaaRmdeg<br />
sabrZolvelad saqarTveloSi adgilobrivi<br />
da tyve germaneli jariskacebisgan<br />
razmi Seiqmna, romelTac<br />
germanuli samxedro forma<br />
ecvaT da germanuli droSa hqondaT.<br />
TurqebisTvis germanuli<br />
droSa sakmarisi aRmoCnda, rom jarebis<br />
winsvla SeeCerebinaT.<br />
am istorias generali giorgi<br />
mazniaSvili ase ixsenebs: „12 aprilis<br />
Ramis 3 saaTze Sikrikma gadmomca<br />
mTavrobis depeSa, romelSic<br />
matyobinebdnen, rom Cvenma mTavrobam<br />
Sehkra piroba germaniasTan,<br />
ris ZaliTac germania ar miscems<br />
nebas osmaleTs, win wamoiwios. am<br />
depeSasTan erTad Cems gankargulebaSi<br />
igzavneboda germaneTis<br />
qveiTi jaris gundi oficris ufrosobiT.<br />
me unda mimeca nebarTva germaneli<br />
oficrisaTvis, gamoekida mas<br />
germaneTis bairaRi Coloqis xidze,<br />
agreTve unda mimeca misTvis sa-<br />
Sualeba, gadasuliyo osmalebTan<br />
da gamoecxada maTTvis, rom am<br />
dRidan saqarTvelos teritoria<br />
imyofeboda germaneTis jarebis<br />
mfarvelobis qveS. gamogzavnili<br />
gundi unda darCeniliyo nataneb-<br />
Si. germaneTis bairaRi unda aRmarTuliyo<br />
agreTve natanebis sadgurzedac.<br />
amasTan matyobinebdnen, rom<br />
germanelebis meore gundi igzavneboda<br />
sadgur samtrediaSi wesis<br />
dasacavad, rodesac foTidan tfilisSi<br />
gamoivlidnen germaneTis<br />
samxedro nawilebi.<br />
Cem SekiTxvaze, _ saidan gaCnda<br />
tfilisSi germaneTis samxedro<br />
nawilebi? Sikrikma mipasuxa, rom<br />
germaneTis regularuli jarebis<br />
Camosvlamde tfilisSi Sedga mTeli<br />
aTaseuli adgilobrivi mcxovrebi<br />
da tyve germanelebisagan.<br />
am aTaseulidan gamoigzavna Cems<br />
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damoukideblobis qronikebi<br />
gankargulebaSi TiTo gundi natanebSi<br />
da samtrediaSi”.<br />
1918 wlis 11 maiss Turqebis<br />
mier okupirebul baTumSi axali<br />
samSvidobo molaparakebebis procesi<br />
daiwyo, romelic, erTgvarad,<br />
trapizonis uSedego samSvidobo<br />
konferenciis gagrZelebas warmoadgenda.<br />
TurqeTisa da amierkavkasiis<br />
federaciuli respublikis<br />
garda, samSvidobo procesSi<br />
Suamavlis saxiT germaniis mxarec<br />
CaerTo, romelsac generali oto<br />
fon losovi warmoadgenda.<br />
amierkavkasiis demokratiuli<br />
federaciuli respublika mxolod<br />
garegnulad warmoadgenda sami<br />
kavkasiuri eris erTobas. sinamdvileSi<br />
saqarTvelos, somxeTsa da<br />
azerbaijans erTmaneTisgan gansxvavebuli<br />
pozicia da sagareo orientacia<br />
hqondaT. saqarTvelo germaniisken<br />
ixreboda, somxebs inglisisa<br />
da ruseTis mxare eWiraT, azerbaijani<br />
ki TurqeTis bunebrivi<br />
mokavSire gaxldaT.<br />
iseve rogorc trapizonSi, samSvidobo<br />
konferencias osmaleTis<br />
warmomadgeneli meTaurobda. rauf-beis<br />
nacvlad TurqeTma baTum-<br />
Si, amjerad, armiis maRalCinosani,<br />
halil sami-bei miavlina. urTierTmisalmebis<br />
Semdeg sityva aiRo amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciis xelmZRvanelma,<br />
akaki Cxenkelma da konferenciis<br />
monawileebs amcno, rom amierkavkasia<br />
Tanaxmaa, molaparakebas<br />
safuZvlad daedos brest-litovskis<br />
sazavo SeTanxmeba da TurqeTs<br />
am Temis ganxilva SesTavaza.<br />
trapizonis Sexvedraze Turqe-<br />
Ti amierkavkasiis delegaciisgan<br />
swored brest-litovskis pirobebis<br />
miRebas moiTxovda, magram ba-<br />
TumSi osmalTa pozicia mkveTrad<br />
Seicvala. sami-beim ganacxada, rom<br />
trapizonis molaparakebebis Semdeg<br />
Turqulma armiam mniSvnelovnad<br />
waiwia win da aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
brest-litovskis pirobebi<br />
osmaleTs aRar akmayofilebda.<br />
ukve dakavebuli yarsis, ardaganisa<br />
da baTumis garda, Turqebma axalcixis,<br />
axalqalaqis, aleqsandropolis<br />
(dRevandeli giumri), eCmiaZinisa<br />
da surmalinis mazrebis gadacema<br />
moiTxoves. sxvanairad rom<br />
vTqvaT, osmalebs brest-litovskis<br />
zaviT mikuTvnebuli teritoriebis<br />
garda, samcxe-javaxeTisa da<br />
somxeTis sami meoTxedis mitaceba<br />
surdaT. garda amisa, osmalebs aleqsandropolis-julfas<br />
sarkinigzo<br />
xazis gakontrolebac undodaT<br />
_ es maT saSualebas aZlevda, azerbaijanis<br />
mimarTulebiT daubrkoleblad<br />
gadaesrolaT jarebi<br />
da pirdapiri derefani gaeWraT<br />
Turqulenovan erebTan. am pirobebis<br />
Sesruleba regionis srul okupacias<br />
niSnavda.<br />
14 maiss TurqeTma ultimatumi<br />
wamoayena, romelic amierkavkasiis<br />
federacias daqvemdebarebuli samxedro<br />
nawilebis aleqsandropolis-julfas<br />
xazis iqiT gayvanas<br />
iTvaliswinebda. Turqebi baqosken<br />
gasasvlelis mopovebas cdilobdnen.<br />
am ultimatumze amierkavkasiis<br />
mTavrobis protestma Sedegi ar<br />
gamoiRo.<br />
ultimatumis gamocxadebidan<br />
erT dRis Semdeg, 15 maiss, Turqebma<br />
aleqsandropolisi daikaves. 21<br />
maiss osmalebi sardarapatSi Sevidnen<br />
da swrafad daiwyes win waweva.<br />
saqarTvelos dedaqalaqamde<br />
Turqul jarebs sul ramdenime<br />
saxalxo gvardia<br />
aTeuli kilometri aSorebda. amdenad,<br />
Turqebma uxeSad daarRvies<br />
brest-litovskis sazavo pirobebi<br />
da sakuTari gavlenis sferos gafarToeba<br />
samxedro gziT daiwyes.<br />
Turqebis aseTma utifarma moqmedebam<br />
maTi mokavSire germaniis ukmayofileba<br />
gamoiwvia. kavkasiis<br />
regionSi osmaleTis zedmetad ga-<br />
Zliereba kaizeris mTavrobis gegmebSi<br />
sulac ar Sedioda.<br />
TurqeTis samxedro agresiis<br />
fonze, baTumis molaparakebis procesi<br />
CixSi Sevida da man, praqtikulad,<br />
azri dakarga. osmalebi amierkavkasiis<br />
warmomadgenlebs naklebad<br />
usmendnen da sakuTar gegmas<br />
mizanmimarTulad axorcielebdnen.<br />
erTaderTi mxare, romelsac<br />
TurqeTi angariSs uwevda, germania<br />
iyo.<br />
baTumis konferenciaze mimdinare<br />
movlenebs da im periodSi<br />
Seqmnil urTules mdgomareobas<br />
srulad aRwers amierkavkasiis delegaciis<br />
xelmZRvanelis, akaki Cxenkelis<br />
werilebi, romelsac igi<br />
tfilisSi agzavnida. pirveli werili<br />
12 maisiT TariRdeba da igi sazavo<br />
konferenciaze gamarTul pirvel<br />
Sexvedras exeba. Cxenkeli osmaleTis<br />
mier wamoyenebul mZime mo-<br />
Txovnebsa da germaniasTan saqarTvelos<br />
savaraudo partniorobaze<br />
amaxvilebs yuradRebas: „osmaleTis<br />
proeqti yovlad Seuwynarebelia: 1.<br />
aWris Cvens sxeuls axalcixes, axalqalaqsa<br />
da erevnis guberniis<br />
TiTqmis yvela mazras, sadac somxebis<br />
kompaqturi masa cxovrobs; 2.<br />
osmalebi erevian wesierebis aRdgenaSi<br />
CvenSi; 3. rkinisgza maT gankargulebaSia<br />
omis dros da sxva<br />
ekonomikuri borkilebi.<br />
es proeqti gamoigzavna mxolod<br />
erTis pirobiT: ar unda gaxmiandes.<br />
mxolod mTavrobas ecodineba. gamomJRavneba<br />
gviqadis imas, rom osmaloni<br />
Semdeg ukan aRar daixeven.<br />
kategoriulad vacxadeb, rom osmaloni<br />
daixeven germanelebis daxmarebiT,<br />
magram erTi pirobiT, Tu<br />
es proeqti ar gaxdeba politikuri<br />
debatebis sagnad. amis sabuTi<br />
maqvs...<br />
...Cemi gegmaa: 1. samxedro-politikuri<br />
xelSekruleba ikvris ara<br />
marto osmaleTTan, aramed mis<br />
mokavSireebTanac. amas gaviyvan,<br />
magram ise unda gaviyvano, rom germania<br />
osmaleTis mokavSired darC-<br />
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es. es SesaZlebelia, Tu Cven Tvi-<br />
Ton ar gavuZneleT germanul delegacias<br />
es misia Cveni udroo yviriliT...<br />
2. safuZveli Cveni molaparakebisa<br />
brestis zavia. esec gava,<br />
albaT, vinaidan germanelebi ar<br />
arian msurvelni misi darRvevisa.<br />
es ukve gamosWvivoda fon losovis<br />
guSindeli naTqvamidan...<br />
...vTqvaT, es gegma ar gavida, germanelebma<br />
ar dagviWires ise Zlierad<br />
mxari, ra vqnaT? erTaderTi<br />
gzaa: omSi ar gaerio, omi yels<br />
gamoWris ers... osmaleTTan omi<br />
CvenTvis am pirobebSi pirdapir<br />
sigiJes moaswavebs. Cven yvela damnaSave<br />
viqnebiT, sxva araferi, Casaqolni.<br />
es werili ar dakargo. Savs<br />
ar vitoveb, magram iseTi sapasuxismgeblo<br />
momentia, rom unda icodeT<br />
momavlisTvis”.<br />
am werilis miRebidan ori dRis<br />
Semdeg, 14 maiss, tfilisSi saqarTvelos<br />
erovnuli sabWos aRmasrulebeli<br />
komiteti Seikriba, sadac<br />
TurqeTis masStaburi agresiis<br />
Tavidan acilebis mizniT, germaniisTvis<br />
mfarvelobis Txovna<br />
gadawyda. erovnulma sabWom ramdenime<br />
punqtiani dadgenileba miiRo,<br />
romelic akaki Cxenkels germanuli<br />
mxarisTvis unda gadaeca:<br />
1. ecnobos germaniis sazavo delegaciis<br />
Tavmjdomares general<br />
losovs, rom saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
sabWos survili da Txovnaa,<br />
yovelnairad xeli Seuwyos germaniam<br />
saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso<br />
da politikur-saxelmwifoebriv<br />
sakiTxebis rac SeiZleba umtkivneulod<br />
gadawyvetas.<br />
2. eTxovos general losovs,<br />
generali losovi<br />
miiRos saTanado RonisZieba, rom<br />
germaniis jarma ganagrZos svla<br />
Crdilo-kavkasiaSi, raTa imdenad<br />
dauaxlovdes saqarTvelos sazRvrebs,<br />
rom SesaZlebeli iyos mas-<br />
Tan kontaqtis daWera da saqarTvelo<br />
uzrunvelyofili iqnas garedan<br />
mosalodneli raime safrTxisgan.<br />
3. eTxovos general losovs...<br />
dastovos saqarTveloSi myofi<br />
germaneli tyveebi da miandos germaniis<br />
oficerT maTi samxedro<br />
organizacia, raTa saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobas SeeZlos, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
gamoiyenos es jari Sinaur<br />
wesrigis dasacavad da anarqiasTan<br />
sabrZolvelad.<br />
amave krebaze erovnul-demokratiuli<br />
partiis wevrebma xmamaRla<br />
ganacxades, rom amierkavkasiis<br />
federacia arabunebrivi gaerTianebaa,<br />
romlis subieqtebs gansxvavebuli<br />
orientacia aqvT da amitom<br />
dadga dro, rodesac saqarTvelom<br />
damoukidebloba unda gamoacxados.<br />
Tumca am mosazrebas ar<br />
daeTanxmnen social-demokratebi,<br />
romlebic amierkavkasiis federaciul<br />
gaerTianebas, jer kidev, sicocxlisunarian<br />
organizmad miiCnevdnen<br />
da fiqrobdnen, rom<br />
kavkasiis xsna erTobaSi iyo.<br />
15 maiss baTumidan Cxenkelis<br />
gamogzavnili axali werili movida,<br />
romelSic igi kategoriulad<br />
moiTxovda saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebas. damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebas qarTvelebs<br />
germanuli mxarec urCevda.<br />
aseT SemTxvevaSi germania saqarTvelos<br />
aRiarebasa da mfarvelobas<br />
hpirdeboda. amierkavkasiis delegaciis<br />
xelmZRvanelis TqmiT, saqarTvelo<br />
mxolod ase Tu gadaur-<br />
Ceboda Turqul okupacias: „unda<br />
gamocxaddes saqarTvelos damoukidebloba<br />
yovel mizezs gareSe.<br />
mxolod am SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba<br />
zavis Sekvra CvenTvis misaReb pirobebSi...<br />
Cven vdgavarT ufskrulis<br />
win: unda gadawydes, gayvebian Tu<br />
ara am gzas qarTvelebic, rogorc<br />
amas aqamdisin Cadiodnen revoluciuri<br />
frazeologiiT damTvralni...<br />
Cven davkargavT yvelafers, sicocxlesac.<br />
damoukideblobas ki<br />
SeuZlia Cveni xsna. Turqebi Tu<br />
nebiT ara, ZaliT gaivlian amierkavkasias.<br />
Tu ZaliT gaivlian, Cven<br />
dapyrobilni varT... Tqven valdebulni<br />
xarT, qarTvel ers uxelm-<br />
ZRvaneloT, Tu ar SegiZliaT, uke-<br />
Tesia gadadgoma, magram am SemTxvevaSi<br />
eri daiRupeba... saWiroa<br />
gambedaoba. nu aqcevT eris da saxelmwifos<br />
saqmes partiis saqmed...”<br />
Seqmnili viTarebidan gamomdinare,<br />
saqarTvelos aucileblad<br />
unda gamoecxadebina damoukidebloba.<br />
aseT daskvnamde TviT social-demokratiuli<br />
partiac ki<br />
mivida, romelic am gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebaze bolo momentamde Tavs<br />
ikavebda. amierkavkasiis federaciuli<br />
respublika Tavidanve mkvdrad<br />
Sobili gamodga. federaciis<br />
subieqti erebi erTmaneTSi ver Tanxmdebodnen<br />
da, Sesabamisad, TurqeTTan<br />
sazavo xelSekrulebis<br />
gaformebas ver axerxebdnen. aseTi<br />
viTareba ki TurqeTs aZlevda xels<br />
da mTel regions CaylapviT emuqreboda.<br />
saqarTvelos SemTxvevaSi<br />
alternativa aRar arsebobda _<br />
TurqeTi mas an mTlianad daipyrobda,<br />
an germaniis daxmarebiT XIX<br />
saukunis dasawyisSi dakargul damoukideblobas<br />
aRidgenda. marTalia,<br />
meore variantis SemTxvevaSi<br />
saqarTvelo mniSvnelovan teritorias<br />
mainc kargavda, samagierod,<br />
igi saxelmwifod yalibdeboda.<br />
16 maiss tfilisSi saqarTvelos<br />
erovnuli sabWos aRmasrulebeli<br />
komiteti Seikriba, romelmac damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebis Temaze<br />
imsjela. saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebisTvis saWiro<br />
niadagis mosamzadeblad samkaciani<br />
komisiis Camoyalibeba gadawyda,<br />
romlis SemadgenlobaSic Sevidnen:<br />
social-demokrati noe ramiSvili,<br />
erovnul-demokrati daviT<br />
vaCnaZe da social-federalisti<br />
Salva-aleqsi mesxiSvili.<br />
23 maiss saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
sabWos saxelze gamogzavnil werilSi<br />
akaki Cxenkeli ukve dauyovnebliv<br />
moiTxovda damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebas: „me vfiqrob,<br />
Tqven ukve gamoacxadeT damoukidebloba.<br />
Tu ara, maSin me ar mesmis<br />
Tqveni taqtika. erTaderTi gamosavali<br />
mxolod esaa. sxva gza<br />
daxSulia...<br />
...saqarTvelos mTavrobis pirveli<br />
nabiji Semdegi unda iyos: sTxovos<br />
germanias mfarveloba Tavisi<br />
damoukideblobis dasacavad.<br />
dadgenileba amis Sesaxeb unda<br />
gadaeces graf Sulenburgs. yvela<br />
es xdeba saidumlod. Sulenburgs<br />
miecema aqedan instruqcia, romlis<br />
ZaliT is am Tqvens Suamdgomlobas<br />
gadascems Tavis mTavrobas.<br />
SeiZleba pasuxis mosvlamdis ukve<br />
ikisros germaniis imperiis warmomadgenlis<br />
roli. am SemTxvevaSi is<br />
gamoiyvans Tavis patara razms,<br />
tyveebisgan Semdgars da miegebeba<br />
momxdom Turqebs da ganucxadebs,<br />
rom saqarTvelo ukve germaniis<br />
mfarvelobis qveS imyofeba...<br />
...aucileblad saWiroa myisve<br />
SematyobinoT damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadeba ara marto telegramiT,<br />
aramed werilobiTac, kanonierad<br />
Semowmebuli qarTul enaze,<br />
agreTve damoukideblobis aqtis<br />
teqsti.... kidev vimeoreb, yoymani am<br />
wuTSi danaSaulia. Cven gvixsnis<br />
mxolod gambedaoba, siswrafe, mtkice<br />
nabijebi. yvela isini, vinc am<br />
wuTSi daZravs enas ruseTis orientaciis<br />
Sesaxeb SesaboWia...”<br />
saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebamde sul sami dRe rCeboda.<br />
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da mainc... is mxolod<br />
saxeli _ Tazo. garegnoba _ da-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
samaxsovrebeli. niWi _ mravalmx-<br />
rivi. ocneba _ Tavisufleba. es is<br />
adamiania, romelic SesaZloa, bevrjer ginaxavT quCaSi. adre,<br />
albaT, romelime Senobis saxuravze morbenals naxavdiT, esec<br />
imitom, rom bevr SesaSur unars flobs, rac fizikur siZlieres<br />
moiTxovs, magram axla misi ZiriTadi saqmianoba musika, barmeno-<br />
ba, gayidvebis sfero, kaskadioroba da akrobatobaa. saocaria<br />
da is am yvelafris SeTavsebas SesaniSnavad axerxebs.<br />
jer 24 wlisaa, yvelafrisT-<br />
vis Tavis garTmevas, rogorRac,<br />
axerxebs da mainc, mis erTaderT<br />
ocnebad da miznad Tavisufleba<br />
rCeba, oRond es sul sxvanai-<br />
ri, miseuli gagebiT, Tu rogor<br />
aRiqvams Tavisuflebas da ra<br />
aris misTvis kargi adamianis in-<br />
dikatori, intervius kiTxvisas<br />
gaigebT.<br />
_ momiyevi Senze, rom mkiTx-<br />
velma ukeT gagicnos.<br />
_ Tazo balaSvili, 24 wlis,<br />
warmoSobiT qarTlidan, Tumca<br />
TbilisSi davibade da gavizarde.<br />
var musikosi, barmeni, kaskadiori<br />
da zogjer akrobatul Souebs<br />
vdgam. am ukanasknels rac<br />
Seexeba, sazRvargareT roca miwevs<br />
gasvla, maSin vawyob xolme,<br />
an saerTodac, am profiliT gavdivar<br />
sazRvargareT, gudnTan<br />
erTad (warsulSi gavsulvar).<br />
kaskadiori saqarTveloSi var da,<br />
ZiriTadad, reklamebSi vmonawileob.<br />
barmeni da barmenejeri<br />
sastumroSi viyavi.<br />
cxovrebas rac Seexeba, axla<br />
vcxovrob mSoblebTan, bebiasTan,<br />
patara Zmasa da mamasTan erTad.<br />
deda sazRvargareTaa, adre marto<br />
vcxovrobdi, magram finansuri<br />
krizisi Semexo da gadmovedi.<br />
musikiT mTeli cxovrebaa,<br />
dainteresebuli var, Zalian miyvars<br />
musikis mosmena, Tumca 3-4<br />
welia, rac TviTon daviwye dakvra<br />
da simRera. TviTnaswavli da<br />
Tan melomani var, erTsa da imave<br />
Janrs ar vusmen, CemiT daviwye<br />
simRerac, dakvrac, sul Tavidan<br />
megobari damexmara. am profiliTac<br />
gavsulvar sazRvargareT.<br />
viyavi latviaSi, erT-erTi organizaciis<br />
daxmarebiT, gacvliTi<br />
programa iyo, rogorc Cven gvaqvs<br />
Tbilisoba, ise iyo qalaqis<br />
dRe iqac, 10-dRiani proeqti iyo<br />
da Cven metxans davrCiT, Zalian<br />
bevri ucxoeli gavicani, didi<br />
gamocdileba miviRe, musikis<br />
mxriv ara, ubralod, maT kulturasa<br />
da gemovnebas gavecani.<br />
akrobatuli nomrebiT adre sezonze<br />
mivdiodiT xolme dubaisa<br />
da TurqeTSi gundebTan Free<br />
Jumpers da Akro Style-Tan erTad.<br />
mainc, musika isaa, rac Zalian<br />
did siamovnebas maniWebs. gitaraze<br />
dakvra rom viswavle, jer<br />
saxlSi vukravdi, mere miwisqveSa<br />
gadasasvlelSi gadavedi, sadac<br />
metad ganvviTardi, Tavidan sim-<br />
Rerisa da dakvris kompleqsi<br />
gaqvs, magram mere xalxis reaqciaze<br />
atyob yvelafers, yvelaze<br />
didi gamocdileba mainc quCaa,<br />
mere roca xalxis raodenoba<br />
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izrdeba, romelsac Seni musika<br />
moswons, xvdebi, rom swor gzaze<br />
midixar. ise momwonda es yvelaferi,<br />
rom samsaxuris merec mivdiodi,<br />
gasarTobad vukravdi. konkursebSic<br />
vmonawileobdi, magram<br />
didad ar miyvars xolme<br />
konkursebi.<br />
_ ra sirTuleebi Segxvda<br />
gzad?<br />
_ skolis damTavrebis mere<br />
jarSi wavedi, roca movrCi, 19<br />
wlis viyavi, Zalian bevri sirTule<br />
Semxvda: roca dakvra daviwye,<br />
saxlSi Zveli rusuli gitara vipove,<br />
romelze dakvrac SeuZlebeli<br />
iyo, mere klasikuri gitara<br />
viyide, romelic SedarebiT iafi<br />
Rirda, axla ra gitarac maqvs da<br />
warmatebas riTac mivaRwie musikalur<br />
samyaroSi, amis damsaxurebaa.<br />
kompiuteri gavyide da es viyide.<br />
axla vxvdebi, rom swori gadawyvetileba<br />
miviRe.<br />
akrobatikas rac Seexeba, 13<br />
wlis viyavi, roca pirvelad Sevexe<br />
mas, warmatebiT mivyvebodi 10<br />
wlis manZilze. sanacnobo damcinoda<br />
xolme da seriozulad<br />
aravin aRiqvamda, axali xili iyo<br />
mainc, Tumca bevr rames mivaRwie<br />
da bevri viswavle. eg rom ara,<br />
bevrs verafers mivaRwevdi, Sesa-<br />
Zloa, ucxoeTSic ver memogzaura.<br />
megobrebisgan da sanacnobosgan<br />
mainc cota cinikuri<br />
damokidebuleba iyo xolme.<br />
_ gadawyvetileba Tu gaqvs,<br />
romelic ginania?<br />
_ arc erTi. raxan maSin ise<br />
CavTvale, rom ise unda gamekeTebina,<br />
e. i. ase iyo saWiro, ar vambob,<br />
rom swori iyo, magram ase<br />
gamovida da ase iyo saWiro.<br />
_ axla ras akeTeb?<br />
_ erT-erT kompaniaSi vmuSaob<br />
damoukidebel agentad, konkretul<br />
saqonels vTavazob im momxmarebels,<br />
romelic mas saWiroebs.<br />
vsaubrob inglisurad da<br />
rusulad. TviTon samuSao grafikic<br />
miwyobs xels simReraSi.<br />
_ raze fiqrob yvelaze xSir-<br />
ad?<br />
_ sulier dasvenebaze. veZeb,<br />
rogor unda davisveno, bevri<br />
ramea, rac mamSvidebs, Tu fizikurad<br />
gadaRlili var saRamos,<br />
SeiZleba, megobrebTan davlio<br />
da movdunde, magram es droebi-<br />
Tia. minda, cota xangrZlivi, 3-<br />
Tviani dasveneba mainc, bevri<br />
variantia da axla nel-nela sxvadasxvas<br />
vcdi.<br />
_ risi keTeba giyvars yve-<br />
laze metad?<br />
_ motocikletiT siaruli.<br />
mTavaria, davjde da wavide, ar<br />
aqvs mniSvneloba, sad. mTavaria,<br />
wavide. es raRac sxva grZnobaa,<br />
Tavisuflebis SegrZnebas tovebs.<br />
_ Seni motocikleti gyavs?<br />
_ aRar. adre myavda, magram<br />
mere problema Semeqmna da, Sesabamisad,<br />
gavyide.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebs yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ bevri ram, pirvel rigSi,<br />
upativcemuloba, cinikuri damokidebuleba<br />
sxvis mimarT, roca<br />
vinmes ar afaseb. wignis Sinaarss,<br />
ubralod, ydiT nu SeafasebT!<br />
roca quCaSi midixar da viRac<br />
Cagivlis, rogorc unda gamoiyurebodes,<br />
Sen ar ici, mas ra<br />
gaukeTebia da ras warmoadgens,<br />
ra SeuZlia, risi gamkeTebelia,<br />
amitom ar unda gaakeTo, ar Tqva<br />
misi misamarTiT iseTi ram, rom<br />
sananebeli gagixdes.<br />
magaliTisTvis, aris adamiani,<br />
romlis damsaxurebacaa is, rom<br />
Sen tkbilad gZinavs, Tumca ar<br />
gamoiyureba kargad, radgan ibrZoda,<br />
an raime msgavsi; SesaZloa,<br />
saxli gaqvs myudro, romelic<br />
man aaSena, muSa iyo, magram ra<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs, man xom agiSena?!<br />
Sen ki Caivli da amreziT<br />
Sexedav. es ar iqneba Rirseuli<br />
saqcieli.<br />
mokled, ucxo adamianis mimarT<br />
cudi damokidebuleba ar miyvars,<br />
mimaCnia, rom yvela adamianma,<br />
vinc quCaSi moZraobs, unda<br />
daafasos erTmaneTi.<br />
_ saqmeSi ras afaseb yvelaze<br />
metad? ra aris SenTvis prior-<br />
iteti?<br />
_ prioriteti yovelTvis aris<br />
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Tavisuflebaze ocnebobs<br />
pativiscema. magaliTad, roca<br />
ukrav, SeiZleba, vinmesTvis kargad<br />
ar mReri, viRacisTvis piriqiT<br />
_ es individualuria, yvela<br />
Taviseburad aRiqvams, magram mainc,<br />
vafaseb, roca pativs gcemen.<br />
viRac rom mReris, SeiZleba saerTod<br />
ar momwondes, arc is momewonos,<br />
rasac is mReris, gemovnebidan<br />
gamomdinare; SeiZleba<br />
raRac mawuxebdes, magram is adamiani<br />
xom muSaobs im momentSi,<br />
zrunavs imaze, rom kargi, komfortuli<br />
garemo Semiqmnas, romc ar<br />
momewonos, taSi mainc unda davukra<br />
da damcinavi replika ar gamovxato,<br />
SeiZleba CemTvis vifiqro,<br />
magram gamoxatva ar aris saWiro.<br />
vafaseb adamians, romelic uaryofiT<br />
damokidebulebas pativis<br />
cemis gamo ar gamoxatavs.<br />
_ pirovnulad ras afaseb?<br />
_ Tanadgomas, ara materialurad,<br />
aramed sulierad. xandaxan<br />
vfiqrob, rom lxinSi ufro Znelia<br />
adamians gveriT daudge, vidre<br />
WirSi. gasaWirSi martivia,<br />
megobari mxarze xels dagadebs<br />
da getyvis, daiviwye, yvelaferi<br />
male Caivlis, cota dro gindao<br />
da gverdiT dgomaSi CaeTvleba,<br />
rac im dros SeiZleba, gesiamovnos<br />
kidec...<br />
_ raze ocnebob?<br />
_ Tavisuflebaze.<br />
_ ra aris Tavisufleba?<br />
_ bevri ram, magaliTad, Cem-<br />
Tvis aris didi CanTa, sadac yvelaferi<br />
midevs, rac SeiZleba damWirdes<br />
(higienuri nivTebi, gamosacvleli<br />
tansacmeli da a. S.),<br />
motocikleti da wavide sadme,<br />
ise, rom ukan moxedva ar mindodes,<br />
rameze ar vdardobde aqeT,<br />
ar unda mrCebodes iseTi grZnoba,<br />
rom vinme damrCeba, viRacas<br />
movenatrebi da a. S.<br />
_ anu pasuxismgebloba ginda<br />
aicilo?<br />
_ ara, magis qona aucilebelia,<br />
magas iReb maSin, roca ojaxs<br />
uWirs da exmarebi. maSinac, roca<br />
raRacas akeTeb da ici, rom Sen<br />
Tu es ar gaakeTe, raRac gafu-<br />
Wdeba, magram roca yvelafers<br />
moagvareb, isinic usafrTxod da<br />
kargad geguleba, aRar fiqrob<br />
araferze, Tavisufali xar maSin.<br />
_ anu ar xar Tavisufali?<br />
_ ara, sul ara, gaaCnia xasiaTs.<br />
eg advili araa, Zalian<br />
rTulia. martivad JRers, magram<br />
mainc.<br />
_ gyavs gmiri, romelsac<br />
hgavxar?<br />
_ ara, arc miyvars, rom mamsgavseben,<br />
vinmes. Sansi araa, rom<br />
ori pirovneba erTmaneTs hgavdes.<br />
yvela gansxvavebulia! erTsa<br />
da imave anekdotze Tu ecinebaT,<br />
ar niSnavs, rom erTnairebi<br />
arian.<br />
_ ra geamayeba?<br />
_ Cemi megobrebi, Zalian vamayob<br />
maTiT. Cemi gakeTebuli saqmeebiT<br />
_ ara.<br />
_ Seni ZmisTvis magaliTi xar?<br />
_ ara, Segnebulad ara. me Ce-<br />
miT avirCie Cemi cxovrebis gza,<br />
iyo periodebi, roca konkretul<br />
momentSi Tavad unda mimeRo<br />
gadawyvetileba, marto viyavi.<br />
_ maqsimalisti xar?<br />
_ ki, magram SemiZlia, mocemul<br />
situaciaSi mcirediTac<br />
davkmayofilde.<br />
vici, ucnaurad JRers da es<br />
ori erTmaneTisgan gansxvavdeba,<br />
magram ai, magaliTad, me rom wavide<br />
sadme sazRvargareT da mTavazoben<br />
karg pirobebs, xuTvarskvlavian<br />
sastumros da a. S. aris<br />
kidev meore varianti, karavSi<br />
cxovreba _ am dros CemTvis didi<br />
mniSvneloba ar aqvs, sad vicxovreb,<br />
komforti kargia, magram<br />
Tu minda sadme wasvla, waval.<br />
minimaluriTac SemiZlia davkmayofilde.<br />
_ vinmesTvis xar magaliTi,<br />
rogor ggonia?<br />
_ ar vici. imedia, ara. magali-<br />
Ti, SeiZleba, raRac saqcielidan<br />
gamomdinare aiRo, mag.: konkretuli<br />
akordebis aReba ukeTesia,<br />
magram sxva ara, individualizms<br />
kargavs.<br />
_ ra problemaa sferoSi, sa-<br />
dac moRvaweob?<br />
_ saqarTveloSi kaskadiorobas<br />
da akrobatikas ise ar afaseben,<br />
rogorc sxvagan, es mTeli rigi<br />
mizezebiTaa gamowveuli. musikas<br />
rac Seexeba, rogorc cnobilia,<br />
qarTvelebi musikaluri xalxi<br />
varT, Tumca arc amas afaseben.<br />
_ rogor SeiZleba musikis<br />
problemis mogvareba?<br />
_ fuliT. xSirad fuliT ver<br />
iyidi bednierebas, problemebs<br />
ver moagvareb, roca saqme sulierebas<br />
exeba, magram am SemTxvevaSi<br />
vinc jansaRi musikosia,<br />
imaSi unda Cado. ra Tqma unda,<br />
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yvela siamovnebisTvis ar ukravs.<br />
roca scenaze vinme gamodis, vxvdebi,<br />
risTvis mReris, erTi<br />
suli aqvs, male daamTavros sim-<br />
Rera, Tu siamovnebas iRebs.<br />
_ risTvis da rogor ukrav?<br />
_ ZiriTadad, grZnobiT, magram<br />
yofila SemTxveva, roca<br />
mdomebia, oRondac male movrCe<br />
simReras da araferi mindoda.<br />
oficialuri samsaxuris ambavia,<br />
Cemi piradi problemebis gamo<br />
sxvisTvis ratom unda gamecruebina<br />
imedi, Torem ar memRereboda<br />
saerTod.<br />
_ Seni mizani?..<br />
_ Tavisuflebas mivaRwio da<br />
warmatebuli adamiani gavxde, im<br />
sferoSi, romelsac mivdev. imitom<br />
ara, rom cnobadi saxe gavxde<br />
da bevri fuli mqondes, minda<br />
mivaRwio imitom, rom vici, roca<br />
cnobili da warmatebuli xar,<br />
ufro gismenen.<br />
_ ginda, rom mogisminon?<br />
_ ki.<br />
_ ratom? ras ambob axals da<br />
gansxvavebuls?<br />
_ gansxvavebuls arafers, ubralod,<br />
igives vityvi, rac xalxma<br />
icis, Tumca gansxvavebulad,<br />
xalxma rom daijeros, ise...<br />
primitiul magaliTs vityvi:<br />
nagavi rom ar unda davyaroT<br />
Zirs, yvelam viciT, Tumca instinqturad<br />
mainc vyriT. me, magaliTad,<br />
sigareti damigdia instinqturad,<br />
roca nagvis urna ar<br />
Semxvedria maSin... adamiani roca<br />
raRacas problemas eZaxis, e. i.<br />
misi mogvareba SeiZleba, amitom<br />
yvelaze kargi gzaa, roca cnobadi<br />
xar, adamianebs kargi saqmisken<br />
mouwodo. bevri mogismens.<br />
ai, me da vinme cnobadi saxe<br />
rom dagvsva magidasTan da orivem<br />
rom erTsa da imave Temaze<br />
visaubroT sityva-sityviT, imas<br />
ufro mousmenen, vidre _ me.<br />
_ rame Seicvleba, roca<br />
ramisken mouwodeb xalxs, an<br />
roca rames ityvi?<br />
_ ki, xalxs is unda moasmenino,<br />
rac unda, ise unda miawodo,<br />
rom ainteresebdes, Tavidan unda<br />
moergo, rom is gaakeTon, rac<br />
sworia, an sWirdeba. bevrjer,<br />
roca cudi periodi mqonia, vicodi,<br />
rom raRac mindoda, ra-<br />
Rac mWirdeboda da konkretuli<br />
varianti mqonda, magram megobarma<br />
roca miTxra, es gWirdebao<br />
(Tan imaze, rac me TviTonac gadawyvetili<br />
mqonda), mivxvdi, rom<br />
ase iyo.<br />
_ visTvis an risTvis ar<br />
genaneba rame?<br />
_ saerTod, aravisTvis araferi<br />
menaneba, ZiriTadad, ufro<br />
megobrebisTvis da ojaxis wevrebisTvis,<br />
ojaxi arc unda CavTvalo,<br />
albaT, is pirvelia, ucxosTvisac<br />
ki ar menaneba araferi.<br />
_ ra musikas usmen?<br />
_ yvelanairs, erTi Janri ar<br />
maqvs, SeiZleba, erTi albomi<br />
momwondes, an albomidan ori<br />
musika da a. S.<br />
_ visTvis an risTvis ar<br />
genaneba dro?<br />
_ megobrebisTvis an ojaxisTvis,<br />
Tumca me Tu im dros<br />
maTTvisve viyeneb, SeiZleba, maT-<br />
Tan ar viyo, Tu megobars aqvs<br />
problema da mTxovs, rom masTan<br />
viyo, am dros SeiZleba mas am<br />
problemas vugvarebde da ar<br />
viyo masTan.<br />
_ rom ara Tazo balaSvili,<br />
vin iqnebodi?<br />
_ albaT, igive, magram sxva<br />
saxeliTa da gvariT.<br />
_ ras datoveb, roca waxval?<br />
_ rame kargs, albaT: megobrebSi<br />
_ saxels, mTavaria, viRacas<br />
axsovde.<br />
_ yoveli dRe risTvis Ten-<br />
deba SenTvis?<br />
_ imisTvis, rom raRac iseTi<br />
gavakeTo, rac Cems megobrebsa da<br />
ojaxs, raRacnairad, waadgeba,<br />
mec kargad Tu ar var, veravis<br />
vamyofeb kargad, Taviseburi<br />
egoizmic devs amaSi, vcdilob,<br />
warmatebas mivaRwio, rom sxvebs<br />
davexmaro.<br />
_ visi an risi imedi gaqvs?<br />
_ sakuTari Tavis.<br />
_ ra aris Seni mizani?<br />
_ Tavisufleba, warmateba da<br />
ojaxi.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />
zogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ erTmaneTi daafaseT da pativi<br />
eciT! ar iciT, SeiZleba,<br />
sruliad ucxo iyos Tqven gverdiT,<br />
roca vinme gWirdebaT.<br />
wigns ydiT nu SeafasebT!<br />
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ruseTSi oqros ver SevwvdiT<br />
ori vercxli da ori brinjao<br />
– aseTi monagariT dabrundnen<br />
qarTveli Ziudoistebi ekaterin-<br />
burgis grandslemidan, romelic<br />
gasul uqmeebze gaimarTa. turniri<br />
gansakuTrebiT Zlieri SemadgenlobiT<br />
ar gamoirCeoda da am-<br />
itom guldasawyvetia, erTi oqr-<br />
os medalic rom ver movipoveT,<br />
Tumca oTxi qarTveli kvarcxl-<br />
bekze mainc avida, rac normalur<br />
Sedegad unda miviCnioT.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebs ekaterin-<br />
burgSi ramdenime lideri aklda,<br />
samwvrTnelo Stabma Tavis gamoCe-<br />
nis Sansi wonebis meore-mesame-me-<br />
oTxe nomrebsac misces da maTma<br />
nawilma Tavi kargad warmoaCina.<br />
vercxlismedalosnebma pirad<br />
reitingSi 700-700 qula dairicx-<br />
es, brinjaosmedalosnebs ki 500-<br />
500 qula ergoT.<br />
araoficialur gundur CaTv-<br />
laSi 30 nakrebs Soris saqarTvelom<br />
mexuTe adgili daikava. gun-<br />
duri monagari qalebis turniris<br />
CaTvliT daiangariSeba, qalebSi<br />
ki monawile saerTod ar gvyolia.<br />
60 kg: amiran papinaSvili 60 kilogramSi<br />
kvlavac rCeba nakrebis<br />
pirvel nomrad da man es statusi<br />
ruseTSic daamtkica. igi finalamde<br />
damajereblad mivida, iq ki uSansod<br />
damarcxda iaponel riuiu<br />
nagaiamasTan. manamde amiranma yazax<br />
aSxat telmanovs, frang sedrik revolsa<br />
da espanel fransisko garigoss<br />
ajoba. luxum Cxvimiani meSvide<br />
adgils dasjerda – rusi<br />
dmitri kulikovis damarcxebis<br />
Semdeg jer meoTxedfinalSi garigosTan<br />
waago, damamSvidebelSi ki<br />
revolTan brZola daTmo.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. riuiu nakaiama<br />
(iaponia), 2. amiran papinaSvili<br />
(saqarTvelo), 3. sedrik revoli<br />
(safrangeTi), albert oguzovi<br />
(ruseTi)<br />
66 kg: am wonaSi Tavis gamoCenis<br />
Sansi or axalgazrdas mieca da orive<br />
umedlod darCa. SedarebiT ukeT<br />
bagrat niniaSvilma iWidava, romelic<br />
meSvide adgilze gavida –<br />
mougo takij navruz qarimzods,<br />
mere ki rus anzaur ardanovsa da<br />
belarus dmitri minkovTan waago.<br />
laSa giunaSvilma asparezoba pirdapir<br />
mervedfinalidan daiwyo, sadac<br />
rus islam xametovTan damarcxda.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. abdula abdul-<br />
Jalilovi (ruseTi), 2. Carlz Cibania<br />
(brazilia), 3. dmitri minkovi<br />
(belarusi), islam xametovi (ruse-<br />
Ti)<br />
73 kg: Cveni nakrebis samwvrTnelo<br />
Stabis gadawyvetilebiT, am<br />
wonaSi monawile saerTod ar gvyolia.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. soiCi haSimoto<br />
(iaponia), 2. marselo kontini (brazilia),<br />
3. pier dupra (safrangeTi),<br />
benJamin aqsusi (safrangeTi)<br />
81 kg: brinjaos medali mogvitana<br />
zebeda rexviaSvilma. man turniri<br />
rusi stanislav semionovis<br />
ZleviT daiwyo, mere ki uzbek sunatula<br />
azimovsac mougo. meoTxedfinalSi<br />
zebeda ungrel atila<br />
ungvarisTan damarcxda da repeSa-<br />
JSi gadaerTo. iq man ori Zlier<br />
falavans sZlia – braziliel viqtor<br />
penalbersa da holandiel<br />
frank de vits.<br />
Tamaz kirakozaSvilma mxolod<br />
erTxel moigo – frang Julien<br />
kermarekTan, ris Semdegac de vit-<br />
Tan damarcxda.<br />
tatams daubrunda rusTa olimpiuri<br />
Cempioni xasan xalmurzaevi,<br />
romelmac ekaterinburgSi oqros<br />
medali aravis daaneba.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. xasan xalmurzaevi<br />
(ruseTi), 2. atila ungvari (ungreTi),<br />
etien braiani (kanada), zebeda<br />
rexviaSvili (saqarTvelo)<br />
90 kg: uSangi margians kvarcxlbekamde<br />
erTi nabiji daaklda da<br />
mexuTe adgils dasjerda. mervedfinalSi<br />
man monRoli cereniam delgeri<br />
daamarcxa, ris Semdegac ungrel<br />
kristian tots veRar gauZalianda.<br />
TiTo gamarjveba da marcxi<br />
daagrova man repeSaJSic, sadac<br />
jer braziliel eduardo betonis<br />
ajoba, mere ki holandiel noel<br />
van tendTan veras gaxda. nika sidamoniZem<br />
mxolod erTi etapis gavla<br />
SeZlo – ajoba rus aleqsandr<br />
rosliakovs, mere ki van tend-<br />
Tan waago.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. kenta nagasava<br />
(iaponia), 2. kristian toti (ungre-<br />
Ti), 3. noel van tendi (holandia),<br />
magomed magomedovi (ruseTi)<br />
100 kg: mets velodiT varlam<br />
lipartelianisgan, romelic kvlav<br />
axal wonasTan adaptacias gadis.<br />
naxevarfinalSi Cveni titulovani<br />
Ziudoisti naklebad cnobil rus<br />
niaz iliasovTan wmindad damarcxda<br />
(TumcaRa aq msajebis erTob<br />
saeWvo gadawyvetilebac aRsaniSnavia),<br />
mere ki frang aleqsandr idirs<br />
mougo da brinjaos medali moipova.<br />
naxevarfinalamde varlamma<br />
uzbek erkin doniorovs, alJirel<br />
lies buiakubsa da braziliel<br />
lusiano koreas sZlia. Sors ver<br />
wavida saqarTvelos nakrebis debiutanti<br />
giorgi parkati, romelmac<br />
mxolod erTi brZola moigo<br />
– uzbeki erbol rustamovis Zlevis<br />
Semdeg ungrel miloS sirienisTan<br />
damarcxda. Tumca obieqturobisTvis<br />
unda aRvniSnoT, rom es<br />
ukanaskneli Cempioni gaxda.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. mikloS sirienisi<br />
(ungreTi), 2. niaz iliasovi<br />
(ruseTi), 3. varlam liparteliani<br />
(saqarTvelo), loren boleri (avstria)<br />
+100 kg: ekaterinburgSi ar uWidaviaT<br />
evropis Cempion oTar Tu-<br />
SiSvilsa da vice-Cempion adam oqruaSvils,<br />
Tumca umedlod mainc ar<br />
davrCiT. vercxlis medali moipova<br />
levan matiaSvilma, romelmac<br />
finalamde samidan ori brZola<br />
wmindad moigo, gadamwyvet SexvedraSi<br />
ki braziliel david mourasTan<br />
mxolod gafrTxilebebiT<br />
damarcxda. ZiriTadi dro fred<br />
dasrulda, matiaSvili msajebma<br />
`oqros drois~ meore wuTze gaafrTxiles.<br />
finalisken mimavali<br />
gzidan levanma avstrieli Stefan<br />
hegi, brazilieli rafael silva da<br />
belarusi vladislav ciarpitski<br />
Camoicila. onise buRaZe pirvelsave<br />
wreSi damarcxda tajik Saqarmamad<br />
mirmamadovTan.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. david moura<br />
(brazilia), 2. levan matiaSvili<br />
(saqarTvelo), 3. andrei volkovi<br />
(ruseTi), Temulen baTulga (mon-<br />
RoleTi).<br />
oZelaSvili da naxucriSvili!<br />
minskidan ori<br />
Cempioni dagvibrunda<br />
belarusis dedaqalaq minskSi dasrulda evropis<br />
Cempionati samboSi, sadac saqarTvelos nakrebma<br />
STambeWdavad iaspareza. ori oqros, sami vercx-<br />
lisa da oTxi brinjaos medali – es aris qarTuli<br />
monagari.<br />
sasiamovnoa, rom am cxra medlidan ori qarTve-<br />
li qalebis angariSzea. kontinentis Cempionoba<br />
zedized meored moipova nino oZelaSvilma (72 kg),<br />
mZimewonosani elene qebaZe ki vercxlismedalosani<br />
gaxda. oZelaSvilma Cempionoba, tradiciulad,<br />
qarTuli cekviT aRniSna.<br />
kacebSi evropis Cempionoba izeima levan naxuc-<br />
riSvilma (74 kg), vice-Cempionebi gaxdnen<br />
paata RviniaSvili (90 kg) da vaxtang<br />
CidraSvili (57 kg), xolo brin-<br />
jaos medlebi moipoves levan<br />
berberaSvilma (52 kg), zvi-<br />
ad odiSaSvilma (62 kg), niko<br />
kuciam (82 kg) da beqa<br />
berZeniSvilma (mZime wona).<br />
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saqarTvelos erovnuli saragbo<br />
nakrebi amerikuli turnesTvis<br />
emzadeba. borjRalosanTa mTavarma<br />
mwvrTnelma, milTon heigma, amerikuli<br />
turnesTvis 36 moragbes<br />
uxmo.<br />
axalzelandiel specialists<br />
surda, rom gafarToebul SemadgenlobaSi<br />
sxva moTamaSeebic exila,<br />
magram ramdenime maTgani travmis<br />
gamo moisaklisa. eseni arian<br />
dudu qubriaSvili, giorgi TeTra-<br />
Svili, vaxtang maisuraZe, beqa gorgaZe,<br />
badri liparteliani, anzor<br />
siWinava da irakli svaniZe<br />
borjRalosnebi `Sevardenis~<br />
saragbo bazaze 29-idan 31 maisamde<br />
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kanadaSi gaemgzavreba. mosamzadebel<br />
Sekrebaze ar iqnebian is moTamaSeebi,<br />
romelTa gundebic safrangeTis<br />
top 14-is plei ofSi Tama-<br />
Soben.<br />
`ragbi evropis Cempionatisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT, sadac ganviTarebis<br />
gegmis Tanaxmad axalgazrda da adgilobrivi<br />
moragbeebi vnaxeT saqmeSi,<br />
amerikul turneze uZlieresi<br />
Semadgenloba migvyavs. Zalian<br />
Zlier mowinaaRmdegeebTan gviwevs<br />
TamaSi, testmatCebze naCveneb Sedegs<br />
did mniSvnelobas vaniWebT da<br />
saukeTesoebiT warmatebis meti<br />
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aseve SedarebiT axalgazrda<br />
moragbeebi. biWebs enTuziazmi<br />
da energia ar akliaT da CemTvis,<br />
rogorc mwvrTnelisTvis, sasiamovnoa<br />
am gundTan muSaoba. didi<br />
mondomebiT veli sruli Semadgenlobis<br />
Sekrebas~, _ ganacxada mil-<br />
Ton heigma.<br />
borjRalosnebs ivnisSi sami<br />
mniSvnelovani testmatCi eliT.<br />
gundi 3 ivniss CrdiloeT amerika-<br />
Si, kanadaSi miemgzavreba, sadac 10<br />
ivniss (saqarTvelos droiT 01:00,<br />
11 ivnisi) qalgariSi kanadas Sexvdeba.<br />
kanadidan borjRalosnebi amerikis<br />
SeerTebul StatebSi, atlantaSi<br />
gadainacvleben da 17 ivniss<br />
(saqarTvelos droiT 03:00 18 ivnisi)<br />
`arwivebs~ Seerkineba.<br />
amis Semdeg borjRalosnebs ukidures<br />
samxreTSi, zafxulidan zamTarSi<br />
mouwevT gadafrena da xuxuiSi<br />
24 ivniss argentinis erovnul<br />
nakrebs (`pumebs~) Sexvdebian. Tbilisis<br />
droiT matCi 23 saaTsa da 15<br />
wuTze daiwyeba.<br />
`zafxulis test-matCebs udides<br />
mniSvnelobas vaniWebT. Sar-<br />
Sandeli okeaneTis turnes msgavsad,<br />
welsac gvaqvs SesaZlebloba,<br />
rom istoriaSi axali furceli CavweroT.<br />
TiToeuli TamaSi Zalian<br />
rTuli iqneba: aSS-m axlaxans `amerikis<br />
ragbis Cempionati~ moigo da<br />
Tavdajerebuli iqneba; kanada saerTaSoriso<br />
doneze yovelTvis kargad<br />
gamodis; argentina 2015 wlis<br />
msoflio Tasis naxevarfinalistia<br />
da maTTan TamaSi CvenTvis sasiamovno<br />
gamowvevaa~, _ ambobs heigi.<br />
borjRalosanTa gafarToebuli<br />
Semadgenloba aseTia:<br />
Serkineba: anton feiqriSvili<br />
(kardifi, uelsi), Tornike mataraZe<br />
(lioni, safrangeTi), mixeil<br />
nariaSvili (monpelie, safrangeTi),<br />
jaba bregvaZe (vusteri, inglisi),<br />
Salva mamukaSvili (tuloni, safrangeTi),<br />
badri alxazaSvili (tuloni,<br />
safrangeTi), soso bekoSvili<br />
(brivi, safrangeTi), irakli mircxulava<br />
(oiona, safrangeTi), karlen<br />
asieSvili (brivi, safrangeTi), levan<br />
CilaCava (tuloni, safrangeTi),<br />
kote miqautaZe (monpelie, safrangeTi),<br />
giorgi CxaiZe (domoni, safrangeTi),<br />
giorgi nemsaZe (brisToli,<br />
inglisi), nodar WeiSvili (lelo<br />
sarasensi), oTar giorgaZe<br />
(klermoni, safrangeTi), beqa biwaZe<br />
(Sonbri, safrangeTi), mixeil gaCe-<br />
CilaZe (enisei, ruseTi), giorgi<br />
TxilaiSvili (baTumi), laSa lomiZe<br />
(london airiSi, inglisi), vito koleliSvili<br />
(klermoni, safrange-<br />
Ti), giorgi cucqiriZe (brivi, safrangeTi);<br />
xazi: vasil lobJaniZe (brivi,<br />
safrangeTi), giorgi begaZe (yoCebi),<br />
vaJa xuciSvili (lokomotivi),<br />
laSa malaRuraZe (krasni iari,<br />
ruseTi), laSa xmalaZe (lelo sarasensi),<br />
revaz jinWvelaSvili (bagrati),<br />
daviT kaWarava (enisei, ruse-<br />
Ti), Tamaz mWedliZe (aJeni, safrangeTi),<br />
merab SariqaZe (oriaki, safrangeTi),<br />
giorgi koSaZe (xarebi),<br />
aleqsandre Todua (lelo sarasensi),<br />
ioseb maTiaSvili (akademia), giorgi<br />
fruiZe (bagrati), merab kvirikaSvili<br />
(lelo sarasensi), beqa<br />
wiklauri (lokomotivi).<br />
liderma Cempioni daamarcxa<br />
N18 (195) 23.05-29.05.2017 w.<br />
`dinamo~-`samtredias~ matCis 93-e wuTi<br />
mimdinareobda, roca baCana arabulma yofil<br />
klubs gautana da maspinZlebs mniSvnelovani<br />
sami qula moutana. erovnuli<br />
safexburTo ligis erTpirovnulma liderma<br />
qveynis moqmedi Cempioni daamarcxa da<br />
uaxloes mdevar `torpedos~ miaxloebis<br />
saSualeba ar misca.<br />
kaxa kaWaravas gundi meoreadgilosan<br />
quTaTurebs kvlav eqvsi quliT uswrebs da<br />
saturniro cxrils sruliad kanonzomierad<br />
udgas saTaveSi. gaaxalgazrdavebuli<br />
`dinamo~ sezons stabilurad atarebs da<br />
TamaSis xarisxic ar daewuneba.<br />
rac Seexeba `samtredias~, imerlebi bolo<br />
turebSi momZlavrdnen da mesame adgilamde<br />
aRzevdnen. axlovdeba CempionTa<br />
ligis sakvalifikacio raundi, sadac saqarTvelos<br />
Rirseba swored `samtrediam~<br />
unda daicvas da gia cecaZis gundis bolodroindeli<br />
progresi amiT aris sasiamovno.<br />
Tumca gunds evrosezonis win Semadgenlobis<br />
gaZliereba sWirdeba, sxvagvarad, Sors<br />
ver wava.<br />
progresis gzas adgas goris `dilac~,<br />
romelmac sezoni mZimed daiwyo, Tumca<br />
bolo oTx turSi Sedegianad iTamaSa da<br />
oTx matCSi 10 qulas mouyara Tavi. `dinamo<br />
Tbiliss~ SidaqarTlelebma qula aarTves,<br />
axla ki ambiciur `saburTalos~ stumrad<br />
sZlies.<br />
veradaver Sordeba saxifaTo zonas `dinamo<br />
baTumi~, arada, zRvispirulma klubma<br />
evropa ligaze unda iTamaSos. evrosezons<br />
aseT formaSi Tu Sexvdnen, baTumelebs<br />
gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />
warmatebis Sansi naklebad eqnebaT. didad<br />
verc evropa ligis kidev erTi monawile,<br />
saCxeris `Cixura~ brwyinavs, samagierod,<br />
`torpedo~ elodeba evroTasebs kargi sa-<br />
Sinao monagariT.<br />
samtrediis `erosi manjgalaZeze~ boloswina<br />
poziciaze myofi `kolxeTi~ boloadgilosan<br />
`Suquras~ dauxvda. gundebma<br />
qulebi gaiyves, riTac kmayofili arc<br />
erTi maTgani ar unda darCeniliyo.<br />
fexburTi. saqarTvelos Cempionati.<br />
erovnuli liga 1. XIII turi<br />
kolxeTi-Suqura 0:0<br />
saburTalo-dila 0:1<br />
goli: 0:1 nubio flavio (13)<br />
torpedo-lokomotivi 2:0<br />
golebi: 1:0 kuWuxiZe (69), 2:0 tuRuSi (85)<br />
dinamo baTumi-Cixura 0:0<br />
dinamo Tbilisi-samtredia 3:2<br />
golebi: 1:0 arabuli (26), 2:0 loCoSvili<br />
(37), 2:1 mWedliSvili (64), 2:2 g. daTunaiSvili<br />
(76), 3:2 arabuli (90)<br />
saturniro mdgomareoba:<br />
1. dinamo Tbilisi – 31 qula, 2. torpedo<br />
– 25, 3. samtredia – 23, 4. lokomotivi<br />
– 21, 5. saburTalo – 19, 6. dila –<br />
18, 7. Cixura – 17, 8. dinamo baTumi – 13,<br />
9. kolxeTi – 11, 10. Suqura – 0.<br />
bombardirebi:<br />
sixaruliZe (lokomotivi) 11<br />
gavaSeliSvili (lokomotivi) 8<br />
arabuli (dinamo Tbilisi) 8<br />
kovtaliuki (kolxeTi) 7<br />
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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
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ucxo kovenanti<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 2 RUS 17:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 7 14:40 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 16:45 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 6 OV 19:20 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 19:40 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 3 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 3 14:10 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 16:30 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 3 OV 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 5 RUS 14:00 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 1 16:40 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 5 RUS 22:35 13-14 l.<br />
xma saflavidan<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 5 19:40 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 8 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 4 16:45 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 4 21:30 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 3 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
rok ZaRli 3D<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 3 15:00 9-10 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 4 12:00 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 4 14:10 9-10 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 2 11:50 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 2 14:10 9-10 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 5 11:50 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 3 15:15 9-10 l.<br />
Svedi sabavSvo mwerali<br />
11. omis<br />
12.qveya-<br />
RmerTi<br />
na samx.<br />
berZ.<br />
amer-<br />
miT.<br />
ikaSi<br />
16.Sesyid-<br />
17.<br />
vis erT-<br />
eklesia<br />
erTi<br />
samcx.<br />
forma<br />
saq-Si<br />
21.<br />
gareg-<br />
noba<br />
25. didi<br />
26.<br />
tanis<br />
gamo-<br />
Cliqosani<br />
safeni<br />
cxoveli<br />
sagani<br />
27. md.<br />
germa-<br />
niaSi<br />
28.<br />
polit.<br />
gaer-<br />
Tianeba<br />
31.<br />
32.<br />
erTgvari<br />
frangi<br />
namcx-<br />
fermw-<br />
vari<br />
eri<br />
33.<br />
saberZn.<br />
deda-<br />
qalaqi<br />
35.<br />
36.Seji-<br />
eklesia<br />
breba<br />
goris<br />
fex-<br />
raionSi<br />
burTSi<br />
2. wylis<br />
1. mZime<br />
mier<br />
daa-<br />
miwis<br />
vadeba<br />
Camorecxva<br />
3.<br />
sasveni<br />
niSani<br />
5.<br />
ist.mxare<br />
Tur-<br />
qeTSi<br />
6.kolo-<br />
nizaciis<br />
gamtare-<br />
beli<br />
7. TeTri<br />
bair-<br />
aRebis<br />
person.<br />
10.<br />
mWer-<br />
metyve-<br />
li<br />
15.qarTve-<br />
li<br />
soprano<br />
Tamar ...<br />
22. aR.<br />
23.<br />
qveynebis<br />
patara<br />
zRapris<br />
Citi<br />
gmiri<br />
29.<br />
Cogb-<br />
urTis<br />
moedani<br />
34. ist.<br />
qarTuli<br />
mxare<br />
37.<br />
gazafx-<br />
ulis<br />
yvavili<br />
30.bib-<br />
liuri<br />
winaswa-<br />
rmety<br />
mety.<br />
4.bra-<br />
ziliaSi<br />
gavrc.<br />
virusi<br />
8.<br />
martivi<br />
ricxvi<br />
9.saSiSi,<br />
mbrunavi<br />
haeris<br />
sveti<br />
13.fu-<br />
14.tansac-<br />
lis<br />
mlis<br />
miReba-<br />
aqse-<br />
Cabareba<br />
suari<br />
18.ganaCenis<br />
19.ose-<br />
gadasin-<br />
Tis Zv.<br />
jva-<br />
saxel-<br />
gauqmeba<br />
wodeba<br />
20.<br />
kurko-<br />
vani<br />
xili<br />
24.<br />
Sinauri<br />
cxoveli<br />
danieli mezRapre<br />
24 wlis asakSi gardaicvala<br />
`lelo sarasensis~ moragbe, saqa-<br />
rTvelos oTxgzis Cempioni,<br />
guja surgulaZe<br />
`qronika+~-is redaqcia Tana-<br />
ugrZnobs gardacvlilis ojaxs,<br />
saqarTvelos ragbis kavSirsa da<br />
megobrebs.<br />
1 aSS dolari<br />
2.4217<br />
1 evro<br />
2.7084<br />
1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />
3.1446<br />
1 Sveicaruli franki<br />
2.4866<br />
100 rusuli rubli<br />
4.2722<br />
wina nomris<br />
skanvordis pasuxebi:<br />
pirveli suraTi - akaki wereTeli;<br />
meore suraTi - ilia WavWavaZe; 1.<br />
skorseze; 2. kuba; 3. suveniri; 4.<br />
erovneba; 5. lore; 6. albaneTi; 7.<br />
Teokratia; 8. nike; 9. lavra; 10.<br />
demokratia; 11. kamea; 12. deli; 13.<br />
korea; 14. vea; 15. kareta; 16. aorta;<br />
17. aloe; 18. karavela; 19. durgali;<br />
20. omerta; 21. orovela; 22. randevu;<br />
23. racia; 24. broli; 25. wiwamuri; 26.<br />
fargali; 27. Cargali; 28. rali; 29.<br />
gali; 30. Cvili; 31. riga; 32. wyali; 33.<br />
kamaTeli; 34. ili; 35. maTe; 36. oni; 37.<br />
aTeni; 38. libreto; 39. riye.<br />
amindi<br />
samSabaTi<br />
oTxSabaTi<br />
xuTSabaTi<br />
paraskevi<br />
SabaTi<br />
kvira<br />
orSabaTi<br />
Tbilisi<br />
21-24 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
22-25 0<br />
24-28 0<br />
25-29 0<br />
26-30 0<br />
27-29 0<br />
quTaisi<br />
16-18 0<br />
17-19 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
27-30 0<br />
29-33 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
24-28 0<br />
baTumi<br />
16-19 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
19-22 0<br />
22-25 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
18-21 0<br />
zugdidi<br />
16-17 0<br />
18-21 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
28-31 0<br />
30-33 0<br />
20-23 0<br />
24-27 0<br />
gori<br />
13-15 0<br />
15-18 0<br />
19-21 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
23-26 0<br />
22-23 0<br />
21-22 0<br />
Telavi<br />
21-24 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
23-25 0<br />
25-28 0<br />
26-29 0<br />
foTi<br />
16-18 0<br />
19-21 0<br />
22-23 0<br />
27-29 0<br />
23-26 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
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stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />
rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />
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