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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

SamaTi,<br />

soso!<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N30 (207) 15.08<br />

08.201<br />

.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />

gv. 7<br />

vin daemuqra<br />

irakli kobaxiZes<br />

Tanamdebobidan<br />

gadayenebiT? gv.<br />

gv. 2<br />

daviT sayvareliZe:<br />

`mixeil saakaSvili<br />

ukrainaSi Semova<br />

ori fexiT da<br />

ori xeliT,<br />

rogorc<br />

gavida~<br />

gv. 4<br />

zurab guruli:<br />

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gv. 8<br />

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udanaSaulobis!<br />

`qronika+~-is Semdegi nomeri gamova 19 seqtembers<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

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eliso kilaZe<br />

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imden skandalSi ar gaxveula, ramdenSic „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

sus-i da Sinagan saqmeTa saministro.<br />

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dakavebuli.<br />

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msgavsi saubari ar Semdgara da<br />

arc Canaweria avTenturi, rasac<br />

rusma satelefono xulignebma<br />

sapasuxo reaqciiT upasuxes<br />

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gadascen da Ss ministris<br />

privatnomeric gamoaqveynon.<br />

erTi satelefono CanaweriT<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa ministrma pre-<br />

mixeil saakaSvili<br />

vin daemuqra irakli kobaxiZes<br />

Tanamdebobidan gadayenebiT?<br />

jer iyo da leqso WikaiZem<br />

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xelisufleba „pakriSkebis<br />

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sawyobebs veZebdiT; mere „ukrainuli<br />

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da Sinagan saqmeTa ministris<br />

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oridan erTia: an saqarTvelos<br />

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sakmaod warmatebuli aRmoCnda.<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa ministrma<br />

wvrilad dafqva, rom saakaSvilis<br />

gareSe es qveyana dawynarda<br />

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interesSi ar Sedis.<br />

„qronika+”-is wyaros infor-<br />

giorgi margvelaSvili<br />

petro poroSenko<br />

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irakli kobaxiZe<br />

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„ocnebis” xelisuflebas saqme<br />

kargad.<br />

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saWiroa kompromisebi da<br />

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farTo fenebis CarTulobiT.<br />

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opozicia TavisTan miiwvia Semdgomi<br />

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Si sacemia yofili premieris,<br />

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rom mediasTan komentarebi ar<br />

gaukeTebia. ivaniSvilis mxardaWera<br />

jer ar miuRia Tbilisis<br />

merobis kandidat kaxi kalaZes,<br />

metic, „qarTuli ocnebis” politikuri<br />

liderebi amboben,<br />

rom adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

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Tvis brZola kaxi kalaZisTvis<br />

martivi ar iqneba. zaal udumaSvili,<br />

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miRebas jer daTanxmebia,<br />

mere retrogradebis gavleniT<br />

uari uTqvams, _ parlamentSi<br />

bunti iqnebao. kobaxiZis<br />

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sajaro gancxadebebs gavakeTebT<br />

da Tavmjdomaris<br />

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isev kalaZis uSualo CareviT<br />

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cxadia, es procesi kalaZes<br />

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da is arCevnebSi axalgazrdebis<br />

mxardaWerasac moipovebs.<br />

giorgi mRebriSvili<br />

aleqsandre WikaiZe<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

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da gaerTiandes erTi miznis qveS,<br />

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mmarTvelobisgan. qveyanas<br />

sWirdeba gamocdili Zala,<br />

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iseTi Zala, iseTi personebi, vinc<br />

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prezidenti poroSenko vizitiT<br />

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Sexvda im adamians,<br />

romelic dRes<br />

saqarTveloSi araformaluri<br />

mmarTvelia,<br />

mTavari mmarTveli, viszec<br />

dRes, samwuxarod,<br />

damokidebulia nebismieri<br />

qarTvelis yoveldRiuroba,<br />

momavali<br />

da keTildReoba. am adamianTan<br />

Sedga es saubari.<br />

_ TviTon es gadawyvetileba<br />

gasagebia, risTvisac iyo gamiznu-<br />

li, rom mixeil saakaSvils ar<br />

hqonoda arCevnebSi uSualod<br />

monawileobis saSualeba, magram<br />

es ver SeuSlis xels mis partias,<br />

rom arCevnebSi miiRos monawile-<br />

oba.<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, xels ver SeuSlis!<br />

_ arc daasustebs misi ukrain-<br />

aSi aryofna? Cven vnaxeT, rom<br />

misma saqarTveloSi aryofnam,<br />

garkveulwilad, daasusta „na-<br />

cionaluri moZraoba”. xom ar<br />

moxdeba igive ukrainaSi, Tu mix-<br />

eil saakaSvili iq ver iqneba?<br />

_ ukrainaSi sxvagvari situaciaa,<br />

aman ufro meti stimuli misca<br />

partiis bevr wevrs da bevr<br />

adamians, sxva politikur partiebsac,<br />

raRac gamaerTianebeli roli<br />

iTamaSa. sazogadoebam es imis<br />

niSnad miiRo, rom prezidenti poroSenko<br />

cdilobs, politikuri<br />

procesi moklas ukrainaSi. ukraina<br />

sakmaod Tavisuflebismoyvare<br />

qveyanaa da ar dauSvebs politikuri<br />

procesis ganadgurebas. poroSenko<br />

ver Caklavs politikur<br />

process am qveyanaSi, iseve rogorc<br />

es scades da ver SeZles misma<br />

winamorbedebma. es aris droebiTi<br />

movlena da piriqiT, aman gamoiwvia<br />

ufro meti konsolidacia<br />

politikur speqtrSic da sazogadoebaSic<br />

da dajereba imisa, rom<br />

es aris erTaderTi da yvelaze<br />

Zlieri opoziciuri Zala.<br />

_ rodesac poroSenkom es<br />

gadawyvetileba miiRo, maSin iTq-<br />

va, rom es, saboloo jamSi, axal<br />

maidans gamoiwvevda.<br />

_ axali maidani ara mgonia, rom<br />

moxdes, magram moxdeba farTomas-<br />

Stabiani civilizebuli protesti<br />

da esec, saakaSvilisTvis moqalaqeobis<br />

CamorTmevac, protestis<br />

erT-erTi komponenti iqneba, ara<br />

mTavari, SeiZleba, magram erT-er-<br />

Ti seriozuli komponenti am protestis.<br />

es protesti isedac mwifdeboda,<br />

es Stabebi uamisodac iqmneboda,<br />

xdeboda koordinacia yvela<br />

sxva mTavar opoziciur, aqtiuri<br />

Zalebis liderebTan da warmomadgenlebTan<br />

regionebSi. daiwyeba<br />

is, rac dagegmili gvqonda.<br />

ra Tqma unda, moqalaqeobis warTmeva<br />

ufro gaamZafrebs am yvelafers.<br />

_ upasporto mixeil saakaS-<br />

vili, romelsac, am etapze, arc<br />

romelime qveynis moqalaqeoba<br />

aqvs da arc aranairi statusi<br />

garda erTi statusisa „mixeil<br />

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uReben kars, iReben pativ-<br />

iT. iuridiulad es ra fenomenia<br />

da Tu gaxsendebaT rame msgavsi<br />

precedentebi?<br />

_ msgavs precedentebs<br />

ver dagisaxelebT, raRac<br />

problemebi Sei-<br />

Zleba hqoniaT politikur<br />

liderebs<br />

sxvadasxva qveyanaSi<br />

da adgilas, magram<br />

polone-<br />

Tis SemTxvevaSi<br />

moxda<br />

is, rom<br />

polonelebma<br />

naxes,<br />

bazaSi<br />

hqondaT<br />

informacia,<br />

pasporti<br />

iyo gauqmebuli, magram<br />

pirvelive zaris Semdeg<br />

xelmZRvanelobasTan<br />

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da reputacia aqvs. es<br />

poroSenkos, ivaniSvilisa da, saerTod,<br />

oligarqebis mdgomareobas<br />

ufro amZimebs, vinaidan isini<br />

metad da mkveTrad sasacilod gamoiyurebian<br />

im situaciaSi, rodesac<br />

aravin cnobs saakaSvilze<br />

SeTiTxnil sisxlis samarTlis<br />

saqmeebs. mecineba xolme, am bolo<br />

periodSi daumatebiaT mkvleloba,<br />

raRacis ganadgureba, miTviseba-moTviseba,<br />

ubralod, sasaciloa<br />

ukve da aRaraferSi jdeba es<br />

yvelaferi. ruseTis garda, aravin<br />

amas yuradRebas ar aqcevs, axla<br />

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ukrainaSic da saqarTveloSic<br />

dRes igive situaciaa, rac ruseT-<br />

Sia, oligarqati marTavs am qveynebs<br />

da erTbaSad moxdeba am problemis<br />

gadawyveta.<br />

_ im fonze, rodesac igive<br />

poloneTi zarzeimiT xvdeba<br />

saakaSvils, uSveben upasportod,<br />

Cveni prokuratura, Tea wuluki-<br />

ani, poloneTs sTxovs mis gadmo-<br />

cemas. es isteriis ra fazaa?<br />

saerTod dakarges realobis SegrZneba,<br />

adekvaturad aRqmis un-<br />

ari?<br />

_ wulukiani is ministria, romlis<br />

araadekvaturobaSi ukve mravali<br />

welia, davrwmundi, Cemi mand<br />

yofnis periodSic da merec. wulukianis<br />

moTxovna gamomdinareobs<br />

misi warsulidan. am adamianma<br />

ganacxada, rom mamamisis qrTamze<br />

dapatimrebas aravis apatiebda da<br />

Tavisi cxovrebis azrad da funqciad<br />

daisaxa „nacionaluri moZraobisa”<br />

da mixeil saakaSvilis ganadgureba.<br />

es qali amiT cxovrobs<br />

da axla ivaniSvilis xelis ramdeni<br />

ministri, dawyebuli premierministriT<br />

_ damTavrebuli wulukianiT,<br />

raRacas ibJuturebs,<br />

ar mgonia, es seriozulad gansaxilveli<br />

iyos. amaze raime seriozuli<br />

komentaris gakeTeba, ubralod,<br />

SeuZlebelia.<br />

_ saqarTveloSi mimdinare<br />

movlenebs Tvals adevnebT, kar-<br />

saa momdgari arCevnebi, faqtia,<br />

rom xelisufleba ecdeba gayalbebas,<br />

rogor ganviTardeba mov-<br />

lenebi da sadaa gamosavali?<br />

_ gamosavali aris sazogadoebis<br />

gaerTianeba. yvela saRad moazrovne<br />

adamianma unda gadados<br />

imedgacruebac, piradi ambiciebic<br />

daviT sayvareliZe:<br />

`mixeil saakaSvili<br />

ukrainaSi Semova ori<br />

fexiT da ori xeliT,<br />

rogorc gavida~<br />

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ac ver arTmeven Tavs. daaTrevs<br />

xeebs, aSenebs Tavis baRs isteriulad<br />

da saerTod ar ainteresebs<br />

am qveynis mosaxleobis interesebi.<br />

vinc ar mosula miliardebiT<br />

da ar wava xelisuflebidan miliardebiT,<br />

aseTi adamianebis xel-<br />

Si unda dabrundes saxelmwifos<br />

mmarTveloba, me ar vambob, rom es<br />

unda viyo me, an saakaSvili, magram<br />

saxelmwifos mmarTvelobaSi unda<br />

dabrundnen idealistebi. yvelas<br />

daewyo imedgacrueba, bevr idealists<br />

ar sjera dRes, rom saqarTvelo<br />

SeiZleba kvlav dadges fexze,<br />

es aris cudi tendencia da<br />

amisTvis unda moxdes erTgvari<br />

gamococxleba, sazogadoebis gaerTianeba.<br />

_ SeuZlebelia ar dageTanxmoT,<br />

sazogadoeba marTlac im-<br />

edgacruebulia da bevrs aRarc<br />

sjera, rom es qveyana isev fexze<br />

dadgeba, magram, Cemi azriT, im-<br />

edgacruebis fesvebi kidev ufro<br />

Rrmadaa wasuli da mizezebi isev<br />

sazogadoebaSia saZebni. gulwr-<br />

felad getyviT, „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” ise CamoSorda xelisu-<br />

flebas, mis danergil sikeTeebs<br />

Cemamde, Cemnairebamde TiTqmis<br />

arc mouRwevia, Tu ar CavTvliT<br />

usafrTxo quCas, momspar koruf-<br />

cias. magram mqonda imedi, rom,<br />

adre Tu gvian, es winsvla im fe-<br />

nasac Seexeboda, romelsac veku-<br />

Tvni, magram Seicvala xelisufleba<br />

da amiT damTavrda yve-<br />

laferi. axla, isev rom movides<br />

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os qveynis Seneba, sanam is sikeTe<br />

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sazogadoeba, maSindeliviT mo-<br />

swyindeba progresi, cxadia,<br />

droebiT, magram im mowyeniloba-<br />

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nis warmateba, xelisuflebas<br />

Secvlian da isev airCeven sxvas,<br />

romelic ukan daxevs qveyanas. da<br />

ase vivliT mojadoebul wreze...<br />

_ ara mgonia... es aris Cveulebrivi<br />

procesi da am Cveulebrivi<br />

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unda iyos. verc axali Taoba da<br />

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da a. S. cxra weli ar iyo sakmarisi<br />

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damdgariyo ekonomikuri<br />

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unda gaerTiandes, gansakuTrebiT<br />

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rom oligarqiuli mmarTveloba<br />

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keTebis Tamasac da qveynis ganvi-<br />

Tarebis Tamasac ivaniSvilma Zalian<br />

dabal daiyvana. rodesac igi<br />

axali Semosuli iyo politikaSi<br />

da raRac sisuleles rom daabrexvebda,<br />

Cven gvecineboda. rodesac<br />

mis gancxadebebze komentireba<br />

gviwevda, marTla gvecineboda,<br />

es ra sisulele Tqva da ras bodialobs<br />

es kaci da a.S., magram dRes<br />

ukve ise mieCvia am yvelafers<br />

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sisuleleebze aRarc ecineba. samwuxarod,<br />

esaa dRevandeli politikuri<br />

yofa da es unda damTavrdes,<br />

imitom rom amis ufleba<br />

saqarTvelos fizikurad ar aqvs<br />

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qveyanas, rodesac TiToeuli<br />

investori sadevni, saloliavebeli<br />

da saferebelia. xelisuflebaSi<br />

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yofiliyo, TiToeul proeqtze<br />

viyaviT gadarTuli yvela, visac<br />

saxelmwifo savarZeli gveWira, an<br />

ar gveWira. miuxedavad imisa, Sedioda<br />

Tu ara Cvens uflebamosilebaSi<br />

es funqcia, yvela viyaviT<br />

gaerTianebuli saxelmwifo axali<br />

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iyo saxelmwifos mSenebloba,<br />

rac axla aRar aris. saerTod<br />

ver gaigeb, ra xalxia, saidan modian...<br />

qveynis erTaderTi mTavari<br />

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mTeli kvira komentarebi.<br />

_ bolos yovelgvari rekordi<br />

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skolebSi vaSlebis darige-<br />

bas apirebs.<br />

_ sisulele Tqva, magram misi<br />

es winadadeba xom ganixileba?<br />

zogi icinis, zogi Riziandeba,<br />

araferi xom ar icvleba? im sofelSi<br />

yvela idioti xom ar iyo,<br />

romelic arqifo seTurma Tavis<br />

yaidaze moiyvana? ase cdilobs<br />

ivaniSvili Tavis yaidaze moargos,<br />

jejelavas yaidaze moargos saqarTvelo<br />

saboloo jamSi. xalxi<br />

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eCveva.<br />

_ Tqven ramdenjerme axseneT<br />

gaerTianeba, es Tema dRes saqa-<br />

rTveloSic aqtiurad trialebs,<br />

Tqveni yofili TanamebrZolis<br />

mxridan, vgoneb, Tqven sxva tipis<br />

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im tipis gaerTianebas, romelsac<br />

gulisxmobs giorgi vaSaZe. is aqtiurad<br />

mouwodebs, metic, aiZu-<br />

lebs politikur speqtrs gaer-<br />

Tianebisken, praimerisken, erTi<br />

kandidatis gamosavlenad.<br />

_ ara, me ar veTanxmebi politikuri<br />

Zalebis amgvar gaerTianebas.<br />

ar vTvli, rom wvril-wvrili,<br />

uresurso partiebis gaer-<br />

Tianeba rames moitans. saubrob<br />

sazogadoebis konsensusze. unda<br />

gaerTiandnen sazogadoebis aqtiuri<br />

Zalebi, xalxi, romelic axalia<br />

moZraobaSi, politikaSi, an<br />

axla apirebs Cabmas, unda rom uS-<br />

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velos qveyanas. unda gaerTiandnen,<br />

ar aqvs mniSvneloba, visi dro-<br />

Sis qveS, mTavaria, iyos erTiani<br />

idea, rom oligarqiuli mmarTveloba<br />

damTavrdes saqarTveloSi<br />

da movides is xalxi, visac namdvilad<br />

surs ideisTvis brZola da<br />

ara piradi usafrTxoeba da piradi<br />

interesebis dakmayofileba. am<br />

miznis dakargvaze, idealizmis<br />

dakargvis safrTxze maqvs saubari.<br />

es mizani, idealizmi, namdvilad<br />

hqonda „nacionalur moZraobas”<br />

da me amiT vamayob da yovelTvis<br />

viamayeb. meamayeba, rom<br />

var im saxelmwifo moxeleebisa da<br />

prokurorebis rigidan, vinc<br />

valebiT da sabanko kreditebiT<br />

wavediT umaRlesi saxelmwifo<br />

Tanamdebobebidan, rasac namdvilad<br />

veravin ityvis ivaniSvilis<br />

jibis ministrebsa da prokurorebze.<br />

amitomac am idealizmze da am<br />

ideisTvis brZolis da enTuziazmis<br />

dabrunebaze maqvs saubari. sazogadoebis<br />

mxridan iniciativa<br />

unda aiRos axalgazrdobam.<br />

_ Tqven brZaneT, rom wvril-<br />

wvrili partiebis gaerTianeba<br />

arafers moitans. kargs arafers<br />

moitans, Torem motaniT rogor<br />

ar moitans? maTTan gaerTianeb-<br />

ul „nacmoZraobas” daakargvinebs<br />

eleqtoratis mxardaWeras. „nacionalur<br />

moZraobas” mouwodeben,<br />

gaerTiandes opoziciur partiebTan,<br />

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suli jgufebi. „nacionaluri mo-<br />

Zraobis” myari eleqtoratis<br />

nervebze gadaiara am jgufebis<br />

wasvlam, es eleqtorati gverdiT<br />

edga am procesebSi „nacmoZra-<br />

obas”, maTTan erTad ganicdida,<br />

nerviulobda, da Tu dRes enm is-<br />

ev SeuerTdeba maT, ra Tqma unda,<br />

es eleqtoratSi mZafr gaRizianebas<br />

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vad rom vTqvaT, Tu isev unda<br />

gaerTianebuliyaviT, raRas iSle-<br />

bodiT?<br />

_ iSviaTad vakeTeb xolme komentars<br />

saqarTveloSi mimdinare<br />

politikur movlenebze, mag procesze<br />

davwere da didi miTqmamoTqma<br />

gamoiwvia Cemma statusma.<br />

vwerdi, rom „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />

namcecebis, nakuwebis, naglejebis<br />

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moitans. moxda, rac moxda, wavida<br />

is xalxi, vinc unda wasuliyo<br />

da waiRes namcecebi da dRes im<br />

namcecebis SekowiwebiT aRaraferi<br />

gamova da ar moxerxdeba. mTavaria,<br />

ideis garSemo gaerTiandes<br />

is xalxi, romelsac ar aqvs erTmaneTis<br />

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rom saqarTvelo ufskrulisken<br />

mieqaneba. unda gaerTiandes<br />

yvela, isic, romelsac SeiZleba<br />

aqamde arc Caudgams fexi politikaSi,<br />

magram anerviulebs Tavisi<br />

cxovreba da Tavisi qveynis bedi<br />

da ar unda sazRvargareT Sav mu-<br />

Sad wasvla da unda, rom icxovros<br />

da iSromos Tavis qveyanaSi.<br />

amitomac aseTi adamianebis gaer-<br />

Tianebazea saubari. Tu viRacas<br />

diskomforti aqvs, rom politikuri<br />

partiis wevria da unda, rom<br />

erqvas politikuri partiis wevri,<br />

arc esaa problema, es gaerTianeba<br />

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moZraobis doneze da es sazogadoebrivi<br />

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oligarqiuli mmarTvelobis<br />

winaaRmdeg, rogorc moxda es<br />

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_ ukrainisa da saqarTvelos<br />

xelisuflebebis qmedebebis mi-<br />

uxedavad, ukrainaSi amerikelebi<br />

samxedro obieqtebs aSeneben,<br />

saqarTveloSi vizitiT Camovida<br />

aSS-is vice-prezidenti. cxadia,<br />

es miuTiTebs imaze, rom ukrain-<br />

ac da saqarTveloc aSS-sTvis<br />

kvlav aqtualuria da aCens imeds,<br />

rom ar Segvatoveben pirispir<br />

ruseTs. Tu sxva procesebi midis<br />

da Cven pirispir vrCebiT daTvis<br />

winaSe?<br />

_ geopolitikurad, ra Tqma<br />

unda, amerikisTvis saqarTvelo<br />

darCeba sainteresod. albaT, es is<br />

momentia, rodesac amerikelebi<br />

namdvilad nanoben, rom „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” ar aris qveynis<br />

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Zalian sarisko da kritikuli periodia,<br />

rodesac msoflios mas-<br />

StabiT xdeba axleburi, ase vTqvaT,<br />

manevrireba da gadalagebebi.<br />

am situaciaSi ruseTi SeiZleba<br />

iyos araadekvaturad agresiuli<br />

saqarTvelos mimarT da swored<br />

amitomaa saWiro dRes qmediTi, Zalian<br />

efeqtiani xelisufleba,<br />

romelic yvela zomas gaatarebs<br />

imisTvis, rom saqarTvelos suvereniteti<br />

daicvas, ganamtkicos.<br />

Tqven rogor ggoniaT, xval rom<br />

ruseTma gadawyvitos saqarTveloSi<br />

Semosvla da vazianis bazis<br />

dakaveba, ivaniSvili gauwevs winaaRmdegobas?<br />

_ ara mgonia.<br />

_ arc me ara mgonia. ra Tqma<br />

unda, xelisuflebas, qveyanas Seatovebs<br />

viRacas, jejelavasnairs<br />

da gaiqceva, an etyvis, _ a, batono,<br />

Tqven TviTon miiReT gadawyvetileba.<br />

gamoCdeba viRac raindi,<br />

axali fsevdomarTlmadidebluri<br />

ideologiis matarebeli ruseTis<br />

droSis qveS da ityvis, rom ruseTs<br />

ar unda veCxuboT, unda SemovuSvaT<br />

vazianis bazaze da a. S.<br />

ase moxdeba es yvelaferi. mcocavi<br />

okupacia isedac midis, agentura<br />

isedac gajejilebulia, tardeba<br />

raRac marSebi, saerTod gaurkvevelia,<br />

raze koncentrirdeba<br />

sazogadoebis yuradReba da raze<br />

imarTeba debatebi, xan monarqia<br />

unda aRvadginoT, xan Turqebi<br />

unda CavqoloT, xan arabebi<br />

unda gavyaroT da a. S. ar SeiZleba,<br />

amden idiotizmze imarTebodes<br />

politikuri diskusia, dRes aris<br />

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da vaSli<br />

naaRmdegobis gareSe Caabarebda am<br />

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konteqstSi es danaSauli, albaT,<br />

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axla _ dRes xom abarebs xelisufleba<br />

am teritoriebs mters da<br />

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idga. axla?<br />

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Sobloze da ara TviT samSoblo”,<br />

_ axla ase xdeba da realuradac<br />

asea.<br />

omi? omi ki ruseTma daiwyo da<br />

ara saakaSvilma!<br />

***<br />

„mTawmindaze xanZaria”, _ am niusma<br />

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rom Cven yvelam yvelaferi<br />

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iyo, magram Soridan, axlos ki maSvelebi<br />

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gulwrfeli iyoT”.<br />

***<br />

_ vin daiwyo agvistos omi? _<br />

kiTxva, romelic yovel agvistos<br />

aqtualuri xdeba. _ vin wamoego?<br />

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maSin erTmniSvnelovnad<br />

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es sityvebis manipuliereba da<br />

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unda Caaqros.<br />

***<br />

dabolos, _ vaSli!<br />

gaxsovT „WriWina”? maSin miCurinis<br />

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da ara, _ samSoblo.<br />

vaSli _ jejelavas vaSli...<br />

ise, gulwrfelad gjeraT<br />

vinmes, rom jejelavas vaSli gadaarCens<br />

qarTul ganaTlebas?<br />

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sofel yarajalaSi!<br />

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Tavs?!<br />

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Soris?!<br />

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ase rom, me-60 svlaze ukve SamaTi,<br />

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gadaval.<br />

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sanam me da aCiko amas vixilavT,<br />

gamomZiebeli movida. 3.40<br />

wuTi gagrZelda dakiTxva. 13 martze<br />

sruli simarTle detalurad movuyevi.<br />

TviTon daijera, magram es<br />

kmara? viTom arsebobs neba simarTlis<br />

garkvevis? imedi maqvs, sxva Tu<br />

araferi, strasburgisTvis mainc<br />

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magram vcdilob, nervebs ar avyve da<br />

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vfiqrob maTze!!!<br />

***<br />

roca levan abzianiZe xelSi CaakvdaT<br />

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jer kidev, eiforiaSi iyo. ver da ar<br />

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samwuxarod, 5 „laiqiT“ da 3<br />

komentariT Semoifargla Cemi Taoba!!!<br />

maSin xalxi gavafrTxile, rom es<br />

aqlemi yvelasTan daiCoqebda da ar<br />

ismines :( ara uSavs, CemTan xom ase<br />

Zalis Zalad movida da movida! me da<br />

prezidentis siZis megobari erTi<br />

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da dasacavma Tu axla xma ar amoiRo,<br />

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mere iolad moerevian. rogorc<br />

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***<br />

dRes SuadRea. ukve xuTSabaTia,<br />

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gareT var yvela logikiT! me mjera<br />

amis, magram unda gavmarTlde, _ es<br />

aucilebelia!<br />

kukuri wivwivaZe<br />

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wamoegeba xolme~<br />

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stafiloze _ biZina, veRar<br />

gaigeb, mTavroba gvyavs Tu xilbostnis<br />

maRazia?..<br />

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Zalebis generaluri Stabis ufrosi, general-maiori vladimer<br />

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TimaTi doherTi; aseve saqarTvelos sakanonmdeblo xe-<br />

lisuflebisa da saqarTveloSi akreditebuli diplomatiuri<br />

korpusis warmomadgenlebi.<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

alerovnul wvrTnebs „Rirseu-<br />

li partniori 2017"?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, dRevandel<br />

samyaroSi amas Zalian didi mniSvneloba<br />

aqvs, radgan Cven vxedavT,<br />

rom riskebi izrdeba, globaluri<br />

dapirispireba piks aRwevs,<br />

sadac nebismier momentSi Sei-<br />

Zleba Tofi gavardes da aseT<br />

viTarebaSi Cveni qveynisTvis usafrTxoebis<br />

Tema nomer pirvelia.<br />

metsac getyviT: es wvrTnebi<br />

kargia, magram daculoba, konkre-<br />

samwuxarod, isev frontis wina<br />

xazze gagviyvana, rac arasasurveli,<br />

magram, rogorc Cans, gardauvali<br />

iyo), am viTarebaSi nebismier<br />

aseT aqtivobas Tavisi sasicocxlo<br />

fasi aqvs.<br />

Tumca, Cemi azriT, es yvelaferi<br />

arasakmarisia da Cven kidev<br />

ufro swrafad gvWirdeba usafr-<br />

Txoebis sistemis gaZliereba.<br />

_ procesis intensifikacia<br />

axseneT, ra nabijebi unda daCqardes,<br />

rom Cveni qveynis usa-<br />

zmi ar arsebobs, rac samwuxaroa.<br />

is, rom Cven ubralo ritorikis<br />

imedze viyoT (Tu xelisufleba<br />

amas fiqrobs), es, ra Tqma<br />

unda, absoluturad arasakmarisia<br />

da Zalian miamiti gagebaa, rom<br />

sadRegrZeloebiTa da erTmane-<br />

Tis mimarT reveransebiT rame<br />

wydeba. Cven reveransebi arc 2008<br />

wlis winaT gvaklda, magram moxda<br />

is, rac moxda.<br />

_ am viTarebaSi, minimum,<br />

14<br />

gia xuxaSvili:<br />

`dRes saakaSvili<br />

`bomJad~ ki ara,<br />

faqtobrivad,<br />

msoflio<br />

moqalaqed iqca~<br />

`Tu es dialogi realurad ar Semdgara, maSin<br />

salaparako bevri arc araferia. magram Tu<br />

saubari Sedga, bunebrivia, Zalian seriozuli<br />

skandalia, faqtobrivad, bevr rames farsad<br />

aqcevs, rac mTeli am istoriis irgvliv xdeba.<br />

ra Tqma unda, politikurad imas viziareb, rom<br />

xelisuflebisTvis miSa saakaSvilis<br />

saqarTveloSi eqstradicia mis intersebSi ar<br />

Sedis. saakaSvili Tbilisis cixeSi, ra Tqma<br />

unda, destabilizaciis wyaroa, didi Tavis<br />

tkivilia da, realurad, xelisuflebas es ar<br />

unda. maSin Cndeba kiTxva, - es aqtiurobebi<br />

moTxovnaze, sasamarTlo procesebi, es<br />

yvelaferi didi speqtakli da farsia?~<br />

saCvenebeli savele swavlebis<br />

scenari TavdacviT da kontrSeteviT<br />

amocanebze iyo dafuZnebuli.<br />

wvrTnebSi monawile mravalerovnul<br />

aseuls arapirdapiri<br />

cecxliT mxardaWera gauwies saqarTvelos<br />

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis<br />

I saartilerio brigadis dana bataream<br />

da amerikulma saartilerio<br />

bataream. tanksawinaaRmdego<br />

amocanebis Sesrulebisas aSS-is<br />

evropuli sardlobis I kavaleriis<br />

polkis samxedroebma pirobi-<br />

Ti mowinaaRmdege tanksawinaaRmdego<br />

saraketo kompleqs „javeliniT”<br />

daazianes.<br />

wvrTnaSi CarTuli iyo qarTul<br />

SeiaraRebaSi arsebuli te-72<br />

tipis tanki, amerikuli tanki<br />

„abramsi” da qveiTTa sabrZolo<br />

manqana „bredli”. kontrSeteviTi<br />

amocanebis Sesrulebis dros<br />

ZiriTad Zalebs mxari dauWira<br />

sainJinro gamrRvevma manqana „miklikma”,<br />

romelmac pirobiTi mowinaaRmdegis<br />

poziciebze gasasvleli<br />

gaakeTa.<br />

„Rirseuli partniori 2017"-Si<br />

monawile qvedanayofs swavlebis<br />

warmatebiT dasruleba miuloces:<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentma<br />

giorgi margvelaSvilma; Tavdacvis<br />

ministrma levan izoriam;<br />

saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebis<br />

generaluri Stabis ufrosma,<br />

general-maiorma vladimer Ca-<br />

Cibaiam; evropaSi aSS-is armiis<br />

ji3-is ufrosma, brigadis generalma<br />

TimaTi doherTim.<br />

daskvniTi RonisZieba samxedro<br />

mosamsaxureTa dajildoebiT<br />

dasrulda. Tavdacvis ministrma<br />

uwyebrivi medliT „generali<br />

kvinitaZe” swavlebis Stabis<br />

ucxoeli da qarTveli oficrebi<br />

daajildova. general-maiorma<br />

vladimer CaCibaiam ki qarTvel<br />

oficrebs swavlebis warmatebiT<br />

dagegmvisa da aRsrulebisTvis<br />

uwyebrivi medali „generali kvinitaZe”<br />

gadasca.<br />

„Rirseuli partniori 2017"<br />

emsaxureboda stabilurobas,<br />

TavdacviT da SeteviT operaciebSi<br />

unar-Cvevebis gaumjobesebas,<br />

aseve aSS-is, didi britaneTis, saqarTvelosa<br />

da partniori qveynebis<br />

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis urTierTTavsebadobis<br />

amaRlebas, natos<br />

reagirebis Zalebis (nrf) sabrZolo<br />

SesaZleblobebis gazrdas<br />

da nrf-Si monawile danayofebs<br />

Soris urTierTTavsebadobis<br />

gaRrmavebas.<br />

„Zala partniorobaSia” _ mravalerovnuli<br />

swavlebis „Rirseuli<br />

partniori 2017"-is mTavari<br />

gzavnili iyo, romelsac saqarTvelom<br />

wels ukve mesamed umaspin-<br />

Zla. wlevandeli swavleba yvelaze<br />

farTomasStabiani gaxldaT<br />

da masSi natos wevri da partniori<br />

8 qveyana monawileobda: saqar-<br />

Tvelo, aSS, gaerTianebuli samefo,<br />

germania, TurqeTi, slovenia,<br />

somxeTi da ukraina.<br />

mimdinare Temebze „qronika+”<br />

eqspert gia xuxaSvils esaubre-<br />

ba:<br />

_ batono gia, rogor afasebT<br />

saqarTveloSi Catarebul mrav-<br />

tul usafrTxoebis sistemaSi<br />

ganTavseba ara xval, aramed dResve<br />

gvWirdeba. swavleba kargia,<br />

magram es arasakmarisia da procesis<br />

intensifikacia unda moxdes;<br />

Tu globaluri dapirispirebis<br />

es dinamika gagrZelda (istoriulma<br />

kanonzomierebam Cven,<br />

frTxoebis garantiebi gaizar-<br />

dos?<br />

_ teqnikur detalebze ver visaubreb,<br />

magram gvWirdeba, rom<br />

ukve dRes moxdes Cveni integracia<br />

globaluri usafrTxoebis<br />

sistemaSi, rac ar xdeba. garkveulwilad,<br />

2008 wlis Semdeg Cven<br />

win waviwieT, magram Zalian mware<br />

gamocdileba gvaqvs imave 2008<br />

wlis, sadac TiTqos molodini<br />

iyo, rom es globaluri usafrTxoebis<br />

sistema imuSavebda, magram<br />

faqtia, rom is absoluturad<br />

araefeqtiani aRmoCnda.<br />

2008 wlis Semdeg am mxriv bevri<br />

araferi Secvlila da es, rasakvirvelia,<br />

SfoTvis safuZvels<br />

iZleva. erTia, Teoriuli mxardaWera<br />

da meorea, realuri teqnikuri<br />

sakiTxebis gadawyveta, raTa<br />

nebismieri agresiis SemTxvevaSi<br />

vicodeT, rom CairTveba garkveuli<br />

meqanizmebi, romelic amas Seakavebs.<br />

jerjerobiT, aseTi meqani-<br />

saWiroa Tu ara, rom Crdiloatlantikurma<br />

aliansma saqarTve-<br />

los gawevrianebis samoqmedo<br />

programa, mapi mianiWos?<br />

_ iciT, ra aris, viTareba samyaroSi<br />

imdenad swrafad icvleba,<br />

rom mapi ukve, Cemi azriT, arsakmarisi<br />

daculobaa, araskmarisi<br />

dacvis garantias iZleva. vimeoreb:<br />

iluzia imisa, rom viRaca<br />

meores raRacas etyvis da amis<br />

gamo is gaCerdeba, ar unda gvqondes.<br />

metsac getyviT: Cven aRniSnuli<br />

usafrTxoebis sistemaSi ukve<br />

dRes rom viyoT integrirebuli,<br />

esec ar aris sakmarisi, 100%-iani<br />

garantia imisa, rom raRac ar<br />

moxdeba. miT umetes, am viTarebaSi<br />

da Tundac mapiT amis garantiebi,<br />

rasakvirvelia, ver Seiqmneba.<br />

Cven vxedavT, rom ruseTi aravis<br />

epueba. aviRoT siriis movlenebi,<br />

sadac is, praqtikulad, ar<br />

iyo da sadac pirdapir gadaikve-<br />

Ta SeerTebuli Statebisa da ruseTis<br />

interesebi; da aSS-m ruseTs<br />

bevri veraferi mouxerxa.<br />

miT umetes, im viTarebaSi, roca<br />

Cven msoflio geopolitikur<br />

omebSi siriis rangSi ar varT. anu<br />

Cvendami interesi erTi rigiT<br />

ufro naklebia, vidre sadReisod<br />

es siriisadmi aris gamoxatuli.<br />

_ aseve CrdiloeT koreis ga-<br />

rSemo daZabuloba piks aRwevs...<br />

_ dRevandeli globaluri riskebi<br />

mravalveqtoriania. TiTqos<br />

raRac Semakavebeli faqtorebi<br />

arsebobs, magram imdend bevri<br />

riskmimarTuleba gaCnda, rom<br />

amis absoluturi kontroli Sei-<br />

Zleba ukve SeuZlebeli gaxdes da<br />

aman umarTav procesebs misces<br />

dasabami. raRac jaWvur movlenebamde<br />

mivdivarT, sadRac erT-<br />

14 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.


gan Tu ifeTqa, SeiZleba bevrgan,<br />

TiTqos, erTmaneTTan urTierTkavSirSi<br />

armyofi movlenebi ganviTardes.<br />

aseTi scenari SesaZlebelia da<br />

zustad amitom giTxariT, rom<br />

Cven xvalis imedze ver viqnebiT.<br />

ukve dRes gvWirdeba usafrTxoebis<br />

Zlieri garantiebi. ara sityvieri,<br />

ara sadRegrZeloebi,<br />

rasac vismenT, gansakuTrebiT<br />

Cveni xelisuflebis mxridan, aramed<br />

realuri usafrTxoebis sistemis<br />

formireba, radgan nebismier<br />

momentSi SeiZleba raRac<br />

daiwyos.<br />

da is, rom Cven ramdenime wlis<br />

Semdeg sadRac migviReben, es am<br />

viTarebaSi ar aris sakmarisi garantia.<br />

_ okupirebul teritoriebze<br />

mimdinare negatiur procesebze<br />

Cveni xelisuflebis reaqcia<br />

ramdenad sakmarisia?<br />

_ samwuxarod, am qveynis dezintegraciis,<br />

anu teritoriebis<br />

mitacebis procesi, obieqturad<br />

unda vTqvaT, rom marto am xelisuflebis<br />

problema ar aris.<br />

Cven, faqtobrivad, mTeli uaxlesi<br />

istoriis ganmavlobaSi, xSir<br />

SemTxvevaSi, Cvenive SecdomebiT<br />

kisers vitexdiT. ruseTis buneba<br />

gasagebia, es mocemulobaa da am<br />

mxriv yovelTvis amerikas Tavidan<br />

aRmovaCenT xolme; imaze vmsjelobT,<br />

Tu vin daiwyo omi da<br />

vin _ ara. amas ra mniSvneloba<br />

aqvs?<br />

ruseTs Tavisi interesebi aqvs<br />

da Tu Sen safuZveli Seuqmeni (da<br />

sakmarisi sisuste aCvene), is, ra<br />

Tqma unda, Tavis interesebs atarebs.<br />

aq mTavaria, rom Sen, rogorc<br />

patara moTamaSem, Secdomebi<br />

ar dauSva, xafangSi ar gaeba,<br />

provokaciaze ar wamoego, rom<br />

ruseTma iq Tavisi ambiciebi daikmayofilos.<br />

samwuxarod, Cvenma yvela xelisuflebam<br />

moaxerxa da dauSva<br />

es Secdomebi, faqtobrivad, damoukideblobis<br />

mopovebis dRidan<br />

dawyebuli. aman sxvadasxva<br />

etapze qveynis erTianobas sxvadasxva<br />

mZime dartyma miayena. es<br />

Zeldeba.<br />

Tumca vimeoreb: misi danaSaulis<br />

xarisxi, jerjerobiT, naklebia,<br />

vidre es wina xelisuflebebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi iyo.<br />

_ ra STabeWdileba grCebaT<br />

mixel saakaSvilTan dkavSire-<br />

bul satelefono Canawerebze?<br />

_ mgonia, rom aradamajerebelia<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa saministros<br />

pressamsaxuris gancxadeba. roca<br />

dacul Tu daucvel xazzea saubari,<br />

absoluturad gaugebaria<br />

saerTod raze vmsjelobT, amitom<br />

es damajerebeli komentari ar<br />

aris.<br />

vfiqrob, Tu Sss-s surs daamtkicos,<br />

rom es ase ar aris da rom<br />

es saubrebi mogonilia, maSin<br />

`viTareba samyaroSi imdenad swrafad icvleba,<br />

rom mapi ukve, Cemi azriT, arasakmarisi<br />

daculobaa, araskmarisi dacvis garantias<br />

iZleva. vimeoreb: iluzia imisa, rom viRaca<br />

meores raRacas etyvis da amis gamo is<br />

gaCerdeba, ar unda gvqondes. metsac getyviT:<br />

Cven aRniSnuli usafrTxoebis sistemaSi ukve<br />

dRes rom viyoT integrirebuli, esec ar aris<br />

sakmarisi, 100%-iani garantia imisa, rom raRac<br />

ar moxdeba. miT umetes, am viTarebaSi da<br />

Tundac mapiT amis garantiebi, rasakvirvelia,<br />

ver Seiqmneba~<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

`arc mis transnacionalur politikur partniorebs (ZiriTadad,<br />

vaSingtonSi) misi ukrainul politikaSi reintegraciis, maincdamainc, didi<br />

interesi aRar aqvT martivi mizezis gamo, rom iqaur politikaSi yvelaferi<br />

ukve daalages, frontis xazi gavlebulia da am mxriv sruli komforti<br />

aqvT. am situaciaSi miSa saakaSvilis damatebiTi kontroli maT aRar<br />

sWirdebaT. Sesabamisad, savsebiT SesaZlebelia, rom is gadmorTon<br />

saqarTveloze, gaaaqtiuron, daabrunon am mimarTulebaze da misgan<br />

erTgvari giulenis qarTuli modeli Seqmnan, romelsac xelisuflebis iribi<br />

kontrolisTvis gamoiyeneben~<br />

gamoZieba unda Caataros. es Tvi-<br />

Tonve sakuTari iniciativiT unda<br />

gaakeTos da Cven unda dagvidos<br />

utyuari mtkicebuleba imisa,<br />

rom es saubari ar Semdgara,<br />

radgan viRacam SeiZleba, alternatiuli<br />

eqspertiza Caataros da<br />

rom gairkves, es mRebriSvilis<br />

xmaa da is saubrobs? Zalian mainteresebs,<br />

am dros ra gadawyvetilebas<br />

miiReben? ai, viRacam rom<br />

moisurvos, aseTi eqspertiza da<br />

sxvadasxva donis eqspertizis<br />

Catareba SeiZleba xmis avTenturobis<br />

dasadgenad.<br />

ase rom, me mainc variantebze<br />

visaubreb. Tu es dialogi realurad<br />

ar Semdgara, maSin salaparako<br />

bevri arc araferia. magram Tu<br />

saubari Sedga, bunebrivia, Zalian<br />

seriozuli skandalia, faqtobrivad,<br />

bevr rames farsad aqcevs, rac<br />

mTeli am istoriis irgvliv xdeba.<br />

ra Tqma unda, politikurad<br />

imas viziareb, rom xelisuflebisTvis<br />

miSa saakaSvilis saqarTveloSi<br />

eqstradicia mis interseb-<br />

Si ar Sedis. saakaSvili Tbilisis<br />

cixeSi, ra Tqma unda, destabilizaciis<br />

wyaroa, didi Tavis tkivilia<br />

da, realurad, xelisuflebas<br />

es ar unda.<br />

maSin Cndeba kiTxva, _ es aqti-<br />

urobebi moTxovnaze, sasamarTlo<br />

procesebi, es yvelaferi<br />

didi speqtakli da farsia? es<br />

erTi mxarea politikuri pasuxismgeblobis,<br />

Tumca aq, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

sisxlis samarTlis pasuxismgeblobis<br />

sakiTxic unda dadges.<br />

Tu sasamarTlo adamianze<br />

gadawyvetilebas iRebs da mas<br />

sasjels usjis, maSin xelisufleba<br />

valdebulia, rom es adamiani<br />

cixeSi gaamwesos da amisTvis yvela<br />

meqanizmi gamoiyenos.<br />

Tu politikuri elita am samarTlebrivi<br />

proceduris torpedirebas<br />

ewinaaRmdegeba, es ukve<br />

sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulia.<br />

konkretuli sisxlis samarTlis<br />

pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxia Sinagan<br />

saqmeTa ministris mxridan,<br />

radgan arsebobs kanoniT dadgenili<br />

procedura da xelisuflebis<br />

valdebulebaa, rom sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetileba aRasrulos.<br />

Tu Ss ministri abobs,<br />

rom Cven amis aRsruleba ar gvinda,<br />

es, ra Tqma unda, kanondar-<br />

Rvevaa da ukve sxva tipis pasuxismgeblobis<br />

sakiTxia, mxolod<br />

politikuris ara.<br />

magram es yvelaferi im daTqmiT,<br />

rom es saubari namdvilad<br />

Sedga.<br />

_ dRevandel viTarebaSi xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan eqsprezi-<br />

dentis mimarT rogori pozicia<br />

iqneba gamarTlebuli?<br />

_ vfiqrob, rom mas Semdeg,<br />

rac saakaSvils ukrainis moqalaqeoba<br />

CamoerTva, xelisufleba<br />

politikurad rTul mdgomareobaSi<br />

aRmoCnda, amas pirdapir<br />

getyviT. Tu Cveni mxridan viRac<br />

amas xels uwyobda, mas politikis<br />

araferi gaegeba. ukrainul politikaSi<br />

integrirebuli miSa saaka-<br />

Svili, sadac ukve sakmaod marginalizebuli<br />

iyo, es qarTuli mxarisTvis<br />

Zalian komfortuli<br />

situacia gaxldaT. es ori mizezis<br />

gamo, erTi mxriv, misi marginalizeba<br />

xdeboda (ris politikuri<br />

interesic xelisuflebas<br />

aqvs) da, meore mxriv, is, ubralod,<br />

ver iclida saqarTvelosTvis,<br />

mTlianad Cafluli iyo<br />

ukrainul bakqanaliaSi. amitom es<br />

komfortuli mdgomareoba iyo.<br />

dRes saakaSvili „bomJad” ki<br />

ara, faqtobrivad, msoflio moqalaqed<br />

iqca. ukrainul politikasTan<br />

midgomebi mas gauWirdeba,<br />

principSi, arc mis transnacionalur<br />

politikur partniorebs<br />

(ZiriTadad, vaSingtonSi)<br />

misi ukrainul politikaSi reintegraciis,<br />

maincdamainc, didi interesi<br />

aRar aqvT martivi mizezis<br />

gamo, rom iqaur politikaSi<br />

yvelaferi ukve daalages, frontis<br />

xazi gavlebulia da am mxriv<br />

sruli komforti aqvT.<br />

am situaciaSi miSa saakaSvilis<br />

damatebiTi kontroli maT aRar<br />

sWirdebaT. Sesabamisad, savsebiT<br />

SesaZlebelia, rom is gadmorTon<br />

saqarTveloze, gaaaqtiuron,<br />

daabrunon am mimarTulebaze da<br />

misgan erTgvari giulenis qarTu-<br />

`dRevandeli globaluri riskebi<br />

mravalveqtoriania. TiTqos raRac Semakavebeli<br />

faqtorebi arsebobs, magram imdend bevri<br />

riskmimarTuleba gaCnda, rom amis<br />

absoluturi kontroli SeiZleba ukve<br />

SeuZlebeli gaxdes da aman umarTav procesebs<br />

misces dasabami. raRac jaWvur movlenebamde<br />

mivdivarT, sadRac erTgan Tu ifeTqa, SeiZleba<br />

bevrgan, TiTqos, erTmaneTTan urTierTkavSirSi<br />

armyofi movlenebi ganviTardes~<br />

procesi, jer kidev, 90-iani wlebis<br />

dasawyisSi daiwyo da iqidan<br />

moyolebuli, yvela xelisuflebam<br />

TiTo „aguri dado” am degradaciis<br />

gzaze.<br />

Sesabamisad, yvela xelisufleba<br />

pasuxismgebelia imaze, rac<br />

dRes xdeba, an rac dRemde moxda,<br />

es sxvadaxva doziT SeiZleba<br />

iTqvas. jerjerobiT, dRevandel<br />

xelisuflebas, am mxriv, Secdomebi<br />

yvelaze naklebad aqvs daSvebuli.<br />

magram danaSaulia, Tundac,<br />

is, rom man am situaciis Se-<br />

Cereba da konservacia ver moaxerxa<br />

da degradacia-dezintegraciis<br />

procesi dResac gr-<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

li modeli Seqmnan, romelsac<br />

xelisuflebis iribi kontrolisTvis<br />

gamoiyeneben. ar vambob,<br />

rom misi pirdapiri reintegracia<br />

moxdeba, magram is, rogorc faqtori<br />

qarTul politikaSi, Sei-<br />

Zleba dabrundes.<br />

anu garkveuli kiTxvebi Tu<br />

gaCnda tendenciasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />

misi gaaqtiureba yovelTvis<br />

SeiZleba. konkretulad, ra da<br />

rogor moxdeba, es ukve politikuri<br />

taqtikis sakiTxia. mTlianobaSi<br />

ki eWvi ar mepareba, rom mas<br />

saqarTveloze gadmorTaven, radgan<br />

ukrainaSi misi dro mTavrdeba,<br />

iq es faqtori mxolod<br />

inerciiT imuSavebs.<br />

15


ogor Cans, emigrantis mier danaxuli saqarTvelo da aq<br />

mimdinare politikuri procesebi? sad vcdebiT da ras va-<br />

keTebT arasworad? sad aris Cveni warmatebis saidumlo da<br />

ramdenad adekvaturebi varT rogorc sakuTari, aseve msoflio<br />

politikuri movlenebis Sefasebisas? rogor unda gavigoT<br />

aSS-is vice-prezidentis gzavnilebi? ramdenad sworad vre-<br />

agirebT rusul okupaciaze da aris ki yvelagan yvelaferi<br />

kargad, gansakuTrebiT „iq”, sadac Cven ar varT?<br />

am Temebze „qronika+~ qarTvel<br />

emigrants, warmatebul eqims, aSS-<br />

Si mcxovreb zurab guruls es-<br />

aubra:<br />

_ batono zurab, Tqveni per-<br />

sonis gaTvaliswinebiT interviu<br />

namdvilad ar da ver iqneba erT<br />

Temaze koncentrirebuli. emigranti,<br />

warmatebuli eqimi, sazoga-<br />

doebrivad aqtiuri adamiani, rom-<br />

elic kargad erkveva rogorc<br />

qarTul, aseve aSS-s politikur<br />

niuansebSi. sxvas Tavi rom davan-<br />

eboT, vgoneb, arc erT polito-<br />

logs ase zustad ar ganuWvretia<br />

jer trampis gamarjveba da Sem-<br />

deg is calkeuli nabijebi, rome-<br />

lsac prezidenti gadadgamda.<br />

Tumca Cveni saubari mainc agvis-<br />

tos omiT daviwyoT. cxra weli<br />

gavida _ ramdenad adekvaturia<br />

omis Sedegebis gaazrebasa da<br />

qmedebebSi qarTuli saxelmwifo<br />

da xalxi?<br />

_ nebismier klasikur saxelmwifoSi<br />

demokratiuli gziT mosuli<br />

yoveli axali mTavroba warmoadgens<br />

wina mTavrobis iuridiul da<br />

politikur memkvidres, miuxedavad<br />

politikuri platformebis gansxvavebisa.<br />

amasTan, saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

interesebidan da principebidan<br />

gamomdinare, yvela mTavrobis-<br />

Tvis politikur aqsiomas unda<br />

warmoadgendes is ZiriTadi sakiTxebi,<br />

romelic Tavisi mniSvnelobiT<br />

aRemateba viwropartiul interesebs.<br />

rodesac axali mTavroba Tavis<br />

winamorbedTan politikuri dapirispirebis<br />

safuZvelze seriozul<br />

zians ayenebs saxelmwifo interesebs,<br />

es ukve araadekvaturi saqcielia<br />

da araferi aqvs saerTo saxelmwifoebriv<br />

azrovnebasTan.<br />

koalicia „ocnebam” da uSualod<br />

misma erTpirovnulma liderma<br />

2012 wels Tavis winasaarCevno<br />

doqtrinaSi araerTxel gaakeTa<br />

oficialuri gancxadeba, rom 2008<br />

16<br />

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wlis samamulo omi daiwyo saqarTvelom.<br />

garda imisa, rom es sruli<br />

absurdia saerTaSoriso iuridiuli<br />

kanonmdeblobis mixedviT, aris<br />

politikuri mavneblobac, rac absoluturad<br />

logikurad eqvemdebareba<br />

saxelmwifo interesebis Ralatis<br />

kategorias, Tavi rom davaneboT<br />

saxelmwifo mniSvnelobis moralur-eTikur<br />

kategoriebs, rodesac<br />

pirad Seuracxyofas ayeneb<br />

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis umaRles<br />

mTavarsardals da mTlianad qarTul<br />

armias, romelsac daufiqreblad<br />

aniWeb samxedro provokatoris<br />

statuss. analogiur kategoriaSi<br />

gadis ramdenime dRis winaT<br />

erT-erTi ministris mier gaJRerebuli<br />

gancxadebac, rom saqar-<br />

Tvelos wina mTavrobam legitimacia<br />

mianiWa saokupacio xazis gavlebas<br />

qveyanaSi.<br />

am yvela zemoT CamoTvlili<br />

faqtidan gamomdinare, logikurad<br />

SeuZlebelia, rom adekvaturad<br />

miviCnioT omis Sedegebis gaazrebaSi<br />

rogorc saqarTvelos amJamindeli<br />

mTavroba, aseve misi amomrCevlebi<br />

da, Sesabamisad, mTlianad<br />

qarTuli saxelmwifoc.<br />

_ rodesac saubroben imaze,<br />

rom omi daiwyo saakaSvilma, apri-<br />

ori aRiareben, _ saqarTvelo<br />

Tavs daesxa sxva qveyanas. amave<br />

dros, omis „damwyebis” person-<br />

ificireba istoriul konteqstSi<br />

Zalian sasaciloa. analogiisTvis:<br />

germania Tavs daesxa sabWoTa kav-<br />

Sirs da ara hitleri _ stalins.<br />

Sesabamisad, minda gkiTxoT, ras<br />

emsaxureba es Sefaseba da ramde-<br />

nad relevanturia is politikur<br />

konteqstSi?<br />

_ es Sefaseba erTmniSvnelovnad<br />

warmoadgens saxelmwifo interesebis<br />

Ralats da emsaxureba politikuri<br />

oponentebis damcirebis<br />

ubadruk mcdelobas. samagierod,<br />

Zalian didi mniSvneloba aqvs<br />

politikur konteqstSi, radgan<br />

saqarTvelos mTavroba, faqtobrivad,<br />

aRiarebs sakuTar qveyanas<br />

samxedro konfliqtis provokatorad<br />

da TavdacviTi samamulo omi<br />

gadahyavs provokaciul agresiaSi.<br />

am gancxadebas momavalSi aucileblad<br />

gamoiyeneben Cven winaaRmdeg,<br />

rodesac saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba<br />

gardauvlad daiwyebs saqar-<br />

Tvelos teritoriuli mTlianobis<br />

aRsadgenad saWiro iuridiul<br />

procesebs.<br />

saqarTvelos SeiaraRebul Zalebs<br />

erTi milimetriTac ar daur-<br />

RveviaT qveynis saxelmwifo sazRvari<br />

da omi mimdinareobda saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriaze ukanonod<br />

SemoWril ruseTis SeiaraRebul<br />

ZalebTan. Sesabamisad, saqarTvelosTvis<br />

omis dawyebis braldeba<br />

aris sruli iuridiuli absurdi,<br />

Tumca mSvenieri sakbiloa saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobis „aRiarebiT” waxalisebuli<br />

demagogi oponentebisTvis.<br />

_ erTi metad saintereso, albaT,<br />

ufro fsiqologiuri xasia-<br />

Tis kiTxva: „stokholmis sindromi”<br />

gasagebia, bolos da bo-<br />

los, seqsic gaqvs „borotTan”,<br />

keTilganwyobac, es TamaSic mogwons<br />

_ cixeSic waxval da jvar-<br />

sac daiwer _ romantikasac Sei-<br />

cavs raRac doziT, magram mtris<br />

aseTi „pativiscema”, „siyvaruli”,<br />

„mokrZaleba” da, gnebavT, sazoga-<br />

doebriv-politikuri mazoxizmi,<br />

romelsac aranairi pozitiuri<br />

finalis konturic ki ar aqvs,<br />

saidan da ratom Cabudda Cveni sazogadoebis<br />

erT nawilSi, rom-<br />

lisTvisac ruseTi isev Zmaa? ase<br />

mgonia, am adamianebs es poli-<br />

tikuri incesti moswonT, Tan<br />

Zaladobis Semcveli detalebiT.<br />

realurad, rasTan gvaqvs saqme?<br />

_ realurad, yvelafers banaluri<br />

materialuri safuZveli<br />

aqvs da aranairi fsiqologiuri<br />

wiaRsvlebi ar aris asaxsnelad<br />

saWiro. precedenti, jer kidev, 92-<br />

Si Seiqmna, rodesac gaqsuebulma<br />

sabWoTa saqmosnebma, anu, realurad,<br />

sabWoTa xazinis qurdebma, Seiamxanages<br />

maT kmayofaze myofi politikuri<br />

naZiralebi da fsevdointelegencia,<br />

aagroves uzarmazari<br />

Tanxa da kriminalebisa da mowveuli<br />

rusuli jaris meSveobiT<br />

daamxes pirveli qarTuli saxelmwifo.<br />

amis Semdeg, roca aravin darCa<br />

xelis SemSleli, uproblemod<br />

gadainawiles saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />

qoneba. cxadia, zemoT CamoTvlil<br />

kategorias mietmasnen „aznaurobis<br />

maZieblebi”, romlebic Sesabamisad<br />

dajildovdnen gaweuli<br />

samsaxurisTvis da cxovrobdnen<br />

udrtvinvelad 2003 wlamde.<br />

„vardebis revoluciis” Semdeg<br />

daiwyo saxelmwifo institutebis<br />

mSeneblobis procesi. Seiqmna sagadasaxado<br />

sistema, mowesrigda saxelmwifo<br />

qonebis aRricxva, anu reestri,<br />

yrud amoiqola sasazRvro<br />

zurab guruli:<br />

`mTavroba, Tavis<br />

winamorbedTan<br />

dapirispirebis<br />

safuZvelze,<br />

seriozul zians<br />

ayenebs saxelmwifo<br />

interesebs~<br />

kontrabandistuli Savi xvrelebi,<br />

magaliTad, ergneTis e. w. bazroba.<br />

saxelmwifom daiwyo 90-ianebSi,<br />

praqtikulad, ufasod miTvisebuli<br />

qonebis moZieba da nawilobriv<br />

ukan dabruneba, romlis drosac<br />

sakmaod moiTbes xeli gaiZvera individebmac<br />

da sakuTar saxelze<br />

gadaiformes naqurdali, principiT,<br />

_ qurdis qurdi cxondao. es<br />

procesi bunebrivi da gardauvali<br />

iyo axalbeda saxelmwifosTvis, magram,<br />

amave dros, sabedisweroc<br />

aRmoCnda. cxadia, privilegia da<br />

qonebadakarguli speqtri ver Seegueboda<br />

saxelmwifos Camoyalibebas.<br />

ase gaTamaSda 90-ianebis putCis<br />

xaverdovani versia qarTuli<br />

warmoSobis rusi saqmosnis meTaurobiT.<br />

daiwyo saxelmwifo qonebis<br />

gadanawilebis axali etapi.<br />

am procesis ideologebad isev<br />

sabWoTa periodis fsevdointelegencia<br />

da axalTaobis „aznaurobis<br />

maZieblebi” mogvevlinen.<br />

`mogexsenebaT, xazinis qurdebisa da<br />

kriminalebisTvis yvelaze saSiSi kargad<br />

Camoyalibebuli saxelmwifo institutebia.<br />

postsabWoTa miliarderebSi, praqtikulad,<br />

yvelas kriminaluri gziT aqvs mopovebuli<br />

qoneba, saqarTvelo ki amJamad erT-erTi aseTi<br />

egzemplaris de faqto piradi sakuTrebaa,<br />

aqedan gamomdinare yvela SedegiT~<br />

ase gadaiqcnen 90-iani wlebis<br />

„provinciuli faSizmis” winaaRmdeg<br />

mebrZolni axali yaidis „antinacistebad”.<br />

mogexsenebaT, xazinis<br />

qurdebisa da kriminalebisTvis<br />

yvelaze saSiSi kargad Camoyalibebuli<br />

saxelmwifo institutebia.<br />

postsabWoTa miliarderebSi, praqtikulad,<br />

yvelas kriminaluri<br />

gziT aqvs mopovebuli qoneba, saqarTvelo<br />

ki amJamad erT-erTi ase-<br />

Ti egzemplaris de faqto piradi<br />

sakuTrebaa, aqedan gamomdinare<br />

yvela SedegiT.<br />

_ saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />

Znelad, an sulac ar aRiarebs<br />

mcocav okupacias, process, isev<br />

da isev, 9 wlis winandel „ambebs”<br />

ukavSirebs. es ra sindromia? xe-<br />

lisuflebas _ Jargons gamoviy-<br />

eneb _ „utydeba” aRiaros, rom<br />

ver ewinaaRmdegeba process, Tu<br />

teritoriebis Cabarebaze xuWavs<br />

Tvals da uwyobs xels?<br />

_ okupaciis aRiareba da teritoriuli<br />

mTlianobis aRdgena seriozul<br />

muSaobas moiTxovs rogorc<br />

politikur, aseve ekonomikur<br />

frontze. saqarTvelos ar aqvs<br />

imis fufuneba, rom pasiurad elodos<br />

movlenebis ganviTarebas. dro<br />

Cven winaaRmdeg muSaobs; gansaku-<br />

TrebiT okupirebul teritoriebze,<br />

romelTa aTviseba okupantebis<br />

mier Tumca, sabednierod, nela,<br />

magram mainc mimdinareobs. aqtiurobaa<br />

saWiro; metic _ hiperaqtiuroba.<br />

saerTaSoriso politikur<br />

speqtrs mudmivad unda SevaxsenoT<br />

Cveni problemebis mogvarebis<br />

aucilebloba, maTTan saubris<br />

dasawyebad ki ukve miRweuli warmatebebis<br />

Cvenebaa saWiro, Tundac<br />

ekonomikur frontze, ris meSveobiTac<br />

davamtkicebT, rom seriozuli<br />

qveyana varT seriozuli<br />

miznebiT da ara umweo bananis respublika.<br />

am dros ki qveyanas de faqto<br />

marTavs miliarderi, romelic<br />

Tavisi piradi Sexedulebebis mixedviT<br />

ayalibebs axal-axal mTavrobebs.<br />

logikuria, rom am mTavrobebis<br />

wevrTa mTavari mizani piradi<br />

finansuri uzrunvelyofis<br />

swrafi mopovebaa da maT arc imis<br />

dro da motivacia aqvT, rom mZlavri<br />

saxelmwifo institutebi Seqmnan,<br />

an saerTaSoriso arenaze sakuTari<br />

qveynis interesebs sdion.<br />

saxelmwifos de faqto mmarTvelma<br />

zustad Camoayaliba Tavisi<br />

„politikuri” doqtrina, romlis<br />

mixedviTac saqarTvelo unda iyos<br />

„neitraluri”, umniSvnelo qveyana,<br />

romelic arasodes Seecdeba, ruseTsa<br />

da progresul msoflios<br />

Soris dapirispirebis elementi<br />

gaxdes. Sesabamisad, misi brZanebiT<br />

saqarTvelom uari uTxra ruseT-<br />

Tan molaparakebaSi daxmarebaze<br />

mokavSireebs da okupantTan saubris<br />

reJimi karasin-abaSiZis naxevrad<br />

legalur, gaurkvevel formatSi<br />

gadaiyvana, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

yvela arsebuli SedegiT.<br />

vinaidan amJamindel marionetul<br />

mTavrobas arc survili aqvs<br />

da arc SesaZlebloba, rom raime<br />

qmediTi nabiji gadadgas am mimarTulebiT,<br />

isini agrZeleben wina<br />

mTavrobis gauTavebel braldebebs<br />

da aviwydebaT elementaruli<br />

WeSmariteba, rom maT TavianTi<br />

surviliT gadaibares winamorbed-<br />

Ta politikuri memkvidreoba da<br />

qveynis marTva, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

yvela saxelmwifoebrivi pasuxismgeblobiT.<br />

swored amitom aris samwuxarosTan<br />

erTad amazrzeni maTi gauTavebeli<br />

wuwuni.<br />

16 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.


_ CvenTan bevrisTvis gaugebaria<br />

diplomatiisa da gansakuTre-<br />

biT aSS-is diplomatiuri ena.<br />

saqarTveloSi vizitad myofma<br />

aSS-is vice- prezidentma bevri<br />

mniSvnelovani gzavnili gaaxmova-<br />

na. gansakuTrebiT avitaceT: saqarTvelo<br />

iqneba erTiani. da aq Cn-<br />

deba kiTxvebi, _ rodis, ra unda<br />

gavakeToT amisTvis? aseve, sain-<br />

tereso iyo fraza imis Sesaxeb,<br />

rom aSS iqneba CvenTan da isev<br />

kiTxva, _ ra viTarebaSi? omi rom<br />

daiwyos ruseTma, iomebs? anu<br />

gTxovT, vrclad ganmartoT,<br />

Tqven rogor gaigeT da ras niS-<br />

navda pensis gzavnilebi?<br />

_ aSS-is vice-prezidentis viziti<br />

uaRresad mniSvnelovani movlena<br />

iyo saqarTvelos uaxles istoriaSi.<br />

Tavisi mniSvnelobiT igi<br />

aRemateboda jorj buSis vizitsac<br />

ki, radgan Tavad epoqaa bevrad<br />

ufro gadamwyveti da, amave<br />

dros, sabedisweroc saqarTvelos<br />

momavlisTvis. prezidentma trampma<br />

sruliad axali etapi daiwyo<br />

amerikis istoriaSi. igi arc tradiciuli<br />

respublikelia da arc<br />

demokrati. mas Tavisi Sexedulebebi<br />

aqvs rogorc saSinao, aseve sagareo<br />

frontebze da misi principebi<br />

agebulia mSral, amerikisTvis<br />

sasargeblo pragmatizmze. Sesabamisad,<br />

aseT periodSi amerikis mier<br />

saqarTvelos gamocxadeba erTgul<br />

mokavSired niSnavs, rom aSS ar<br />

apirebs Tavis mokavSireobriv valdebulebebze<br />

uaris Tqmas. es ki<br />

sabolood aqarwylebs bolodroindel<br />

politikur spekulaciebs,<br />

romelTa Tanaxmadac prezidentma<br />

trampma ruseTs dauTmo Tavisi<br />

yofili gavlenis sferoebi sabWo-<br />

Ta warsulidan.<br />

rac Seexeba Cvens gasakeTebels,<br />

albaT, gaxsovT 2012 wels gavrcelebuli<br />

Worebi, romelTa Tanaxmadac<br />

ruseTi saqarTveloSi SemoiWreboda,<br />

Tu koalicia „ocneba”<br />

ver moipovebda gamarjvebas. es<br />

gaxldaT Zalian Wkvianuri da mzakvruli<br />

diversiis nayofi da misi<br />

eqo dResac warmatebiT muSaobs.<br />

swored am Worebis xarjze inar-<br />

Cunebs „ocneba” politikur gavlenas<br />

da mis winaaRmdeg mimarTuli<br />

masStaburi aqciebis SemTxvevaSi<br />

ruseTis agresiiT aSinebs gulubryvilo<br />

sazogadoebas.<br />

vice-prezidentis diplomatiuri<br />

gancxadeba ki swored imas ni-<br />

Snavs, rom qarTul sazogadoebas<br />

SeuZlia mSvidad gaagrZelos sakuTari<br />

Sinauri problemebis mogvareba<br />

da spekulaciebi ruseTis<br />

SemoWraze, mTavrobis sawinaaRmdego<br />

masStaburi aqciebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />

usafuZvloa.<br />

rac Seexeba SekiTxvas, ras gaakeTebs<br />

amerika ruseTis agresiis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, amaze saubari mxolod<br />

logikuri spekulaciebis doneze<br />

SeiZleba, magram Tu gavixsenebT im<br />

faqts, rom 2008 wels ruseTis<br />

agresia SeCerda mas Semdeg, rac pentagonSi<br />

rokis gvirabze wertilovani<br />

sahaero dartymebis SesaZleblobebis<br />

ganxilva daiwyo, pasuxs<br />

Tavadac mivxvdebiT. miT umetes,<br />

rom putins aranairad ar aZlevs<br />

xels ambiciuri, ficxi da araordinaruli<br />

donald trampis moTminebis<br />

Tavxeduri gamocda. amerika<br />

aRar Caylapavs aseT Seuracxyofas.<br />

_ aSS-dan rogor imzireba<br />

dRevandeli saqarTvelo da aq<br />

mimdinare sazogadoebrivi da<br />

politikuri procesebi? Tundac<br />

is garemoeba, rodesac wina xe-<br />

lisuflebas samarTlianad sTx-<br />

ovdnen adamianis uflebebis dacvas<br />

da am xelisuflebis pirobeb-<br />

Si, velodebiT gamoZiebebis dasrulebas<br />

da mere Temebi, sakiTxe-<br />

bi gvaviwydeba. opozicia ki Tema-<br />

tur sakiTxebzec ver axerxebs<br />

gaerTianebas...<br />

_ samwuxarod, qarTuli sazogadoeba<br />

Segnebulad ambobs uars im<br />

martivi faqtis gaazrebaze, rom<br />

axal mTavrobas evaleba rogorc<br />

Zveli mTavrobis mier daSvebuli<br />

Secdomebis gamosworeba, aseve ma-<br />

Ti dawyebuli kargi saqmeebis gagrZeleba.<br />

„im 9 wlis” miRwevebis<br />

ugulebelyofam da mTlianad<br />

negatiur aspeqtSi gadayvanam martivad<br />

Caugdo xelSi universaluri<br />

indulgencia axal mTavrobas.<br />

nebismieri umoqmedobisa da<br />

warumateblobis SemTxvevaSi isini<br />

mxolod winamorbedebis mimarTulebiT<br />

iSveren TiTs.<br />

Sedegic saxezea: miknavebuli ekonomika,<br />

siRatake, Caflavebuli<br />

socialuri programebi, magaliTad,<br />

_ sayovelTao jandacvis mavnebluri<br />

iniciativa, nihilizmi, emigraciis<br />

kidev ufro gazrda, qveynisTvis<br />

mniSvnelovani strategiuli<br />

proeqtebis dakonserveba gaurkveveli<br />

vadiT; fantasmagoriuli<br />

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`saqarTvelos mTavroba, faqtobrivad, aRiarebs sakuTar qveyanas samxedro<br />

konfliqtis provokatorad da TavdacviTi samamulo omi gadahyavs<br />

provokaciul agresiaSi. am gancxadebas momavalSi aucileblad gamoiyeneben<br />

Cven winaaRmdeg, rodesac saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba gardauvlad daiwyebs<br />

saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianobis aRsadgenad saWiro iuridiul<br />

procesebs. saqarTvelos SeiaraRebul Zalebs erTi milimetriTac ar<br />

daurRveviaT qveynis saxelmwifo sazRvari da omi mimdinareobda<br />

saqarTvelos teritoriaze ukanonod SemoWril ruseTis SeiaraRebul<br />

ZalebTan. Sesabamisad, saqarTvelosTvis omis dawyebis braldeba aris sruli<br />

iuridiuli absurdi, Tumca mSvenieri sakbiloa saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />

`aRiarebiT~ waxalisebuli demagogi oponentebisTvis~<br />

ani teqnologiuri universiteti<br />

da a. S.<br />

mokled rom vTqvaT, qarTul<br />

sazogadoebas ver warmoudgenia,<br />

rom yoveli axali mTavroba Tanmimdevrulad<br />

unda mihyvebodes<br />

saxelmwifo interesebs. amrigad,<br />

SekveTa mudmivad ngrevaze da yvelafris<br />

axlidan Senebazea; Sesabamisad,<br />

SeuZlebelia ramdenime dekadaze<br />

gawerili saerTo erovnuli<br />

miznebisa da strategiebis Camoyalibebac.<br />

qarTuli sazogadoebis Sekve-<br />

Tis Tanaxmad, moqmedebs qarTuli<br />

politikuri speqtric. amitomac<br />

ver xdeba gaerTianeba erTi mTavari<br />

platformis irgvliv. arada,<br />

TiTqosda banalurad martivia,<br />

rom qarTuli saxelmwifos idea<br />

universaluri gamaerTianebeli<br />

unda iyos yvela moazrovne politikosisTvis.<br />

_ Tqveni Sefaseba mainteresebs<br />

erT sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT: pi-<br />

radad me STabeWdileba mrCeba,<br />

rom xelisuflebis warmatebebad<br />

wodebuli asocirebis xelSekuleba,<br />

vizaliberalizacia, Tundac<br />

pensis viziti da gancxadebe-<br />

bi, ufro xelisuflebis iZulebaa<br />

qarTuli saxelmwifos sakeTil-<br />

dReod, vidre mTavrobis survili,<br />

gadadgas konkretuli nabije-<br />

`koalicia `ocnebam~ da uSualod misma<br />

erTpirovnulma liderma 2012 wels Tavis<br />

winasaarCevno doqtrinaSi araerTxel gaakeTa<br />

oficialuri gancxadeba, rom 2008 wlis<br />

samamulo omi daiwyo saqarTvelom. garda<br />

imisa, rom es sruli absurdia saerTaSoriso<br />

iuridiuli kanonmdeblobis mixedviT, aris<br />

politikuri mavneblobac, rac absoluturad<br />

logikurad eqvemdebareba saxelmwifo<br />

interesebis Ralatis kategorias, Tavi rom<br />

davaneboT saxelmwifo mniSvnelobis moralur-<br />

eTikur kategoriebs, rodesac pirad<br />

Seuracxyofas ayeneb SeiaraRebuli Zalebis<br />

umaRles mTavarsardals da mTlianad qarTul<br />

armias, romelsac daufiqreblad aniWeb<br />

samxedro provokatoris statuss~<br />

bi saerTaSoriso sikeTis misaRebad.<br />

Tqven rogori STabeWdile-<br />

bebi da Sefasebebi gaqvT am sak-<br />

iTxze?<br />

_ wina pasuxebSi sakmaod vrclad<br />

Camovayalibe yvela is mizezi,<br />

romlis gamoc saqarTvelos amJamindel<br />

mTavrobas ar aqvs motivacia,<br />

raime qmediTi nabiji gadadgas<br />

qveynis sakeTildReod. mTavrobis<br />

umaRles pirebs irCevs ara<br />

xalxi, aramed erTi pirovneba, Sesabamisad,<br />

isini angariSvaldebuli<br />

arian am pirovnebisa da ara xalxis<br />

mimarT.<br />

saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba,<br />

igive aSS, pativs scems qarTveli<br />

xalxis arCevans, rogoric ar unda<br />

iyos is. amJamindeli mTavroba ki<br />

qarTveli xalxis demokratiul,<br />

uzenaes nebad aris aRiarebuli da<br />

ar arsebobs araviTari iuridiuli<br />

safuZveli amis sawinaaRmdegod.<br />

opoziciac udrtvinvelad TanamSromlobs<br />

mTavrobasTan. Cvens<br />

megobrebs da mokavSireebs mxolod<br />

erTis gakeTeba SeuZliaT: isini<br />

maqsimalurad Seecdebian, rom<br />

gauTvaliswinebelma sagareo faqtorebma<br />

ar moaxdinon zegavlena<br />

qveynis SigniT mimdinare politikur<br />

procesebze. danarCeni ki Tavad<br />

qarTveli xalxis gasakeTebelia.<br />

swored amiT gansxvavdeba dasavluri<br />

mxardaWera rusulisgan,<br />

romelic Tavad cdilobs politikuri<br />

procesebis marTvas Cvens<br />

qveyanaSi politikuri, ekonomikuri<br />

da SeiaraRebuli diversiebis<br />

gziT.<br />

_ ar SemiZlia ar gkiTxoT<br />

saakaSvilze. namdvilad ar gan-<br />

vekuTvnebi misi apologetebis<br />

rigebs, ufro piriqiT _ dResac<br />

maqvs myari argumentebi, vakritiko<br />

igi, gansakuTrebiT im nawil-<br />

Si, rodesac politikur avanscenaze<br />

myof ruseTumeebis mniS-<br />

vnelovan nawils politikuri si-<br />

cocxlis ufleba misca da dRes<br />

bevri maTgani xelisuflebaSia, an<br />

mniSvnelovani politikuri aqti-<br />

oria. aris sxva uamravi sakiTxic,<br />

razedac masTan dava SeiZleba,<br />

iseve rogorc arc obieqturi<br />

madliereba gvawyenda. dRes saq-<br />

arTvelos mosaxleobis nawilis-<br />

Tvis saakaSvili guSindeli dRea,<br />

sxvisTvis _ momavali. Tqven rog-<br />

or da sad xedavT mis politikur<br />

momavals?<br />

_ mixeil saakaSvili imdenad<br />

araordinaruli politikosia da<br />

iseT araordinarul pirobebSi<br />

moRvaweobs, rom misi Semdgomi<br />

politikuri karieris logikuri<br />

winaswari gaTvla sruliad Seu-<br />

Zlebelia. trampis gaTvla sul<br />

sxva saqme iyo. marTalia, isic araordinaruli<br />

pirovnebaa, magram<br />

moRvaweobs Camoyalibebul politikur<br />

sivrceSi.<br />

Cemi azriT, mxolod ukrainuli<br />

epopeis dasrulebis Semdeg gaxdeba<br />

SesaZlebeli prezidentis momavlis<br />

winaswarmetyveleba saqarTvelosTan<br />

mimarTebiT. ukraina ki<br />

iseTi kerketi kakali Cans, rom, jerjerobiT,<br />

Sedegebi, albaT, ukiduresad<br />

pozitiuri, an ukiduresad<br />

negatiuri iqneba. samwuxarod,<br />

Sualeduri poziciis dakaveba iq<br />

ar moxerxdeba. gulwrfelad vusurveb<br />

warmatebas!<br />

_ ise, codva gamxelili sjobs<br />

da 2012 wlis movlenebSi mniSvnelovani<br />

roli iTamaSa emigra-<br />

ciam. maSin „nacionalurma moZraobam”<br />

TiTqmis mTel sazRvarga-<br />

reTSi waao arCevnebi. Tqven mWi-<br />

dro kontaqtebi gaqvT qarTvel<br />

emigrantebTan da rogoria amJa-<br />

mad maTi ganwyobebi?<br />

_ emigracias namdvilad ar uTamaSia<br />

gadamwyveti roli, miuxedavad<br />

sazRvargareT wagebuli arCevnebisa.<br />

es bunebrivic iyo. ivaniSvilis<br />

mier dafinansebulma agitatorebma<br />

efeqtianad warmarTes<br />

TavianTi saqmianoba da Sesabamisi<br />

jildoebic miiRes post-faqtum.<br />

Zalian cudad imuSaves qarTulma<br />

diplomatiurma samsaxurebmac.<br />

swored maT evalebodaT diasporebTan<br />

mWidro kavSiri da emigrantTa<br />

sazogadoebaSi TavianTi<br />

mTavrobis saqmianobis adekvaturi<br />

popularizacia. luiziana-misisipiSi<br />

qarTveli emigrantebis raodenoba<br />

minimaluria, amitom me naklebad<br />

vflob obieqtur informacias<br />

didi diasporebis ganwyobis<br />

Sesaxeb. ise ki, mgonia, rom saqar-<br />

Tvelos mosaxleobis ganwyobis<br />

adekvaturi iqneba Sesabamisi procentuli<br />

speqtrebiT.<br />

_ dabolos, arapolitikuri<br />

kiTxva: qarTvelebma, ratomRac,<br />

SevisisxlxorceT erTi rusuli<br />

gamonaTqvami, _ yvelgan kargia,<br />

sadac<br />

ac Cven ar varT... magram „iq” _<br />

yvelgan kargad yofnas didi Sro-<br />

ma da jafa sWirdeba. ai, es ar<br />

gvaxsovs xolme da vfiqrobT, rom<br />

sxvagan advilad mivaRwevT yve-<br />

lafers. arsebobs mza recepti<br />

imisa, rogor unda viyoT kargad<br />

„iq”, sadac varT da ara yvelgan,<br />

sadac ar varT?<br />

_ amerikelebsac aqvT msgavsi<br />

gamoTqma, _ Robis gadaRma mdelo<br />

ufro mwvanea. es adamianis universaluri<br />

bunebis gamoZaxilia, vidre<br />

qarTuli bunebis. Tavis<br />

damkvidrebas da warmatebas yvelgan<br />

didi Sroma da msxverplSewirva<br />

sWirdeba. Camoyalibebul saxelmwifoebSi<br />

Sroma ganuzomlad<br />

metad fasdeba, vidre CamouyalibebelSi.<br />

swored amitomac unda<br />

idges moqalaqeSi yvelaze maRla<br />

saxelmwifoebrivi interesebi da<br />

swored amitom unda sTxovdes<br />

moqalaqe am interesebis ganuxrelad<br />

dacvas politikosebs.<br />

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saqarTveloSi aSS-s viceprezidentis,<br />

maik pensis vizitze.<br />

meore sakiTxi: putinis viziti<br />

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danapirebi da galis mosaxleobas<br />

gauuqma adgilobrivi „pasportebi”.<br />

amis mizezi is gaxldaT,<br />

maTTvis „afxazuri moqalaqeobis”<br />

miniWebas, radgan afxazur reJims<br />

ruseTTan „ormagi moqalaqeobis”<br />

Sesaxeb SeTanxmeba aqvs.<br />

es gancxadeba miuTiTebs mxolod<br />

erT rameze _ afxazebi eZeben<br />

gzebs, Tu rogor daukargon<br />

galis e. w. administraciis xe-<br />

lmZRvanelis, Temur nadaraias<br />

gancxadebiT: „am xelSi afxazeTis<br />

respublikis moqalaqis axali<br />

pasporti miWiravs, meore dokumenti<br />

ki iZleva afxazeTis teri-<br />

toriaze cxovrebis nebarTvas.<br />

mizezTa gamo galis raionis 96%<br />

saqarTvelos moqalaqea. es xalxi<br />

ar SeiZleba iyos erTdroulad<br />

afxazeTisa da saqarTvelos mo-<br />

qalaqe. afxazuri kanonmdebloba<br />

ar uSvebs ormag moqalaqeobas,<br />

gamonaklisi mxolod ruseTis moqalaqeebze<br />

vrceldeba. binadro-<br />

bis nebarTvis qona sabuTis<br />

mflobelis politikur cxovre-<br />

baSi monawileobas gamoricxavs.<br />

dRes Cven vambobT, rom afxazeTSi<br />

cxovrebis nebarTvis dokumentis<br />

gacema daiwyo, am doku-<br />

mentiT ar geqnebaT politikur<br />

cxovrebaSi monawileobis, parla-<br />

mentSi arCevis, an qonebis SeZenis<br />

ufleba, Tumca SeZlebT miiRoT<br />

ganaTleba, marTvis mowmo-<br />

ba da aiRoT krediti da a.S.,<br />

magram am Tu piri uars ityvis sa-<br />

qarTvelos moqalaqeobaze da<br />

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rTuli dokumentebi aqvs, unda<br />

irakli cqitiSvili:<br />

`afxazebi eZeben<br />

gzebs, rogor<br />

daukargon iqaur<br />

qarTvelebs<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeoba~<br />

iCqaros, imitom, rom 2018 wlis<br />

1-li ianvridan arc sabWoTa pasp-<br />

orti da arc forma nomeri cxra<br />

aRar imoqmedebs. imoqmedebs, mx-<br />

olod afxazeTis moqalaqis<br />

pasporti da cxovrebis nebarT-<br />

va, dro arc ise bevria”.<br />

am Temaze „qronika+” eqspert<br />

irakli cqitiSvils esaubreba:<br />

18<br />

`situacia SesaZlebelia, saerTod gamovides<br />

ruseTis kontrolidan da afxazebma, romlebic<br />

dRemde iTmendnen rusebs (romelTac verasodes<br />

ver itandnen, magram uwevdaT naZaladevi<br />

Rimili, rom `damoukideblobisTvis~ mieRwiaT),<br />

seriozuli problemebi Seuqmnan `mama-<br />

marCenals~. swored es aSfoTebs moskovs da<br />

putinis vizitisas am Temas erT-erTi<br />

centraluri adgili ekava~<br />

_ batono irakli, realurad,<br />

ra miznebs isaxavs galSi axali<br />

wlidan dagegmili e. w. pasporti-<br />

zacia?<br />

_ pasportizaciis sakiTxi, an<br />

raime iseTi dokumentis gacema,<br />

romelic galis raionis mcxovreblebs<br />

saSualebas miscems, imoZraon<br />

okupirebuli afxazeTis ter-<br />

`miuxedavad imisa, rom araerTxel gaxmovanda,<br />

es swavlebebi mesame qveynis winaaRmdeg<br />

mimarTuli ar ariso, putins mosvenebas ar<br />

aZlevs natos jariskacebis yofna saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriaze. qarTuli qvedanayofebis<br />

gawvrTna misTvis araklebi Tavsatexia. mas jer<br />

isic ver mounelebia, Tu rogori<br />

winaaRmdegoba gauwia natos mier gawvrTnilma<br />

qarTulma jarma rusebs 2008 wlis agvistoSi.<br />

putins namdvilad ar surs miiRos Tavis<br />

sazRvrebTan mis mimarT avad ganwyobili kidev<br />

erTi israeli (mxedvelobaSi maqvs saqarTvelos<br />

sajariso momzadeba), amitom is yvela Rones<br />

mimarTavs amis winaaRmdeg, Tumca ruseTis<br />

SesaZleblobebi am sferoSi Zalian<br />

SezRudulia. amitomac yvela saerTaSoriso<br />

swavleba uproblemod tardeba saqarTvelos<br />

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sabednierod, msoflioSi arsebuli foni ar<br />

aZlevs putins saSualebas, kidev erTi<br />

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rom xajimbasa da misi rusi kuratorebis<br />

azriT, qarTuli mosaxleoba<br />

axdenda sakmaod seriozul<br />

gavlenas iqauri arCevnebis Sedegebze,<br />

rac jer baRafSis, xolo<br />

Semdeg anqvabis arCeviT warmoCinda.<br />

pasportebis CamorTmeviT xajimbam<br />

qarTuli gavlena politikur<br />

procesebze minimumamde daiyvana.<br />

miuxedavad misi dapirebebisa,<br />

rom pasportizaciis sakiTxs uaxloes<br />

xanSi gadawyvetda, galis mosaxleoba<br />

dRemde ver iRebs im<br />

faratina qaRaldsac ki, romelsac<br />

afxazuri reJimi gascems.<br />

dRemde grZeldeba bWoba<br />

imis Sesaxeb,<br />

Tu ra saxis<br />

statusi<br />

unda hqondeT<br />

galelebs.<br />

afxazebi<br />

problemas xedaven<br />

im faqtSi,<br />

rom galis mosaxleobis<br />

umetesoba<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqea da isini<br />

amas arc malaven.<br />

amitom gadawyda,<br />

rom maT binadrobis<br />

mowmobebi mieceT. es<br />

dokumenti galelebs<br />

saSualebas miscems, Tavisuflad<br />

gadaadgildnen<br />

okupirebul teritoriaze,<br />

magram ar miscems<br />

uflebas, monawileoba miiRon<br />

iseT politikur procesebSi,<br />

rogoric arCevnebia.<br />

galis afxazuri administraciis<br />

Tavkacma nadaraiam, amas winaT,<br />

erTi saintereso sqema gaaJRera, _<br />

man galel qarTvelebs SesTavaza,<br />

uari Tqvan saqarTvelos moqalaqeobaze<br />

ruseTis moqalaqeobis<br />

sasargeblod; xolo mas Semdeg,<br />

rac isini rusul moqalaqeobas miiReben,<br />

afxazuri mxare SeZlebs<br />

iqaur qarTvelebs saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeoba, moswyviton Tbiliss<br />

da Tavs moaxvion „afxazuri identoba”.<br />

_ rac Seexeba soxumSi putinis<br />

vizits da sazogadoebriv-poli-<br />

tikur fons, romelic sadReisod<br />

iq arsebobs?<br />

_ ruseTis federaciis prezidentis,<br />

vladimir putinis viziti<br />

afxazeTSi sam ZiriTad mizans emsaxureboda:<br />

pirveli da mTavari _<br />

gzavnili msoflios, rom afxaze-<br />

Ti warmoadgens rusuli interese-<br />

si turistebis usafrTxoebis<br />

uzrunvelyofis aucileblobaze.<br />

da mesame sakiTxi, romelic meores<br />

aris mibmuli: erToblivi<br />

sainformacio centris Seqmna, romelmac<br />

unda uzrunvelyos usafrTxoeba<br />

okupirebul teritoriaze.<br />

kriminogenuri situaciis gauareseba<br />

(rusi turistis mokvla,<br />

ruseTidan gadmosaxlebuli qalbatonis<br />

„dauToveba”, didi afe-<br />

Tqeba samxedro sawyobSi, romelsac<br />

rusi turistebi emsxverplnen)<br />

da, pirvel rigSi, afxazebis rusebis<br />

mimarT damokidebulebis<br />

gauareseba, seriozuli safrTxea<br />

putinis ruseTis interesebisTvis.<br />

swored maT dasawynareblad da<br />

dasaSoSmineblad gaaJRera putinma,<br />

rom afxazeTi 6 mlrd rublis<br />

daxmarebas miiRebs. Tumca<br />

didi ndoba afxazebs,<br />

albaT,<br />

am dapirebisa<br />

ar<br />

unda hqondeT,<br />

vinaidan<br />

Zveli dapirebebic<br />

ki araa<br />

Sesrulebuli,<br />

ruseTis mZime<br />

ekonomikuri<br />

mdgomareobis<br />

gamo.<br />

Sesabamisad,<br />

situacia Sesa-<br />

Zlebelia, saer-<br />

Tod gamovides<br />

ruseTis kontrolidan<br />

da afxazebma,<br />

romlebic<br />

dRemde iTmendnen<br />

rusebs (romelTac<br />

verasodes ver itandnen,<br />

magram uwevdaT<br />

naZaladevi Rimili, rom<br />

„damoukideblobisTvis” mieRwiaT),<br />

seriozuli problemebi Seuqmnan<br />

„mama-marCenals”. swored es<br />

aSfoTebs moskovs da putinis<br />

vizitisas am Temas erT-erTi centraluri<br />

adgili ekava.<br />

_ am fonze, ras gvetyviT<br />

mravalerovnuli<br />

wvrTnebis<br />

„Rirseuli partniori 2017"-is<br />

mniSvnelobaze?<br />

18 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.


`ruseTis federaciis prezidentis, vladimir<br />

putinis viziti afxazeTSi sam ZiriTad mizans<br />

emsaxureboda: pirveli da mTavari - gzavnili<br />

msoflios, rom afxazeTi warmoadgens rusuli<br />

interesebis sferos da es mesiji iyo pasuxi<br />

saqarTveloSi aSS-s vice-prezidentis, maik pensis<br />

vizitze. meore sakiTxi: putinis viziti daemTxva<br />

sakmaod rTul periods afxazeTSi - kriminogenuri<br />

situaciis gauaresebas, romelTa msxverpli rusi<br />

turistebi gaxdnen. Tavisi vizitisas putinma<br />

sakmaod mwvaved gaamaxvila yuradReba rusi<br />

turistebis usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofis<br />

aucileblobaze. da mesame sakiTxi, romelic<br />

meores aris mibmuli: erToblivi sainformacio<br />

centris Seqmna, romelmac unda uzrunvelyos<br />

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_ sanam putini afxazeTs stumrobda,<br />

aRmosavleT saqarTvelo-<br />

Si mravalerovani swavlebebi „Rirseuli<br />

partniori 2017" tardeboda.<br />

es swavlebebi seriozuli<br />

mesijia dasavleTisa da, pirvel<br />

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uyureben saqarTvelos<br />

natoSi gawevrianebis perspeqtivas.<br />

amis Sesaxeb sakmaod seriozulad<br />

saubroben aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />

departamentSi da sakmaod mkacrad<br />

iyo gaJRerebuli es postulatebi<br />

maik pensis vizitisas saqarTveloSi.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom araerTxel<br />

gaxmovanda, es swavlebebi mesame<br />

qveynis winaaRmdeg mimarTuli<br />

ar ariso, putins mosvenebas ar<br />

aZlevs natos jariskacebis yofna<br />

saqarTvelos teritoriaze. qarTuli<br />

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avad ganwyobili kidev erTi<br />

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sajariso momzadeba),<br />

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galis mosaxleobis umetesoba saqarTvelos<br />

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mowmobebi mieceT. es dokumenti galelebs<br />

saSualebas miscems, Tavisuflad<br />

gadaadgildnen okupirebul teritoriaze,<br />

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miiRon iseT politikur procesebSi,<br />

rogoric arCevnebia~<br />

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erTi masStaburi provokacia<br />

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Sesabamisad, Cven gegmurad unda<br />

ganvaxorcieloT sajariso mzadeba<br />

da svla natosken.<br />

_ okupaciis zonebSi mimdinare<br />

procesebi, „sazRvrebis” gadmow-<br />

eva da amaze Cveni xelisuflebis<br />

reagireba rogoria?<br />

_ borderizaciis procesi, romelsac<br />

rusi okupanti saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriaze axorcielebs,<br />

seriozul Tavsatkivars warmoadgens<br />

saqarTvelosTvis. okupaciis<br />

xazi ukve 400 metrSia centraluri<br />

avtomagistralidan. didi mniSvneloba<br />

okupaciis TvalsazrisiT<br />

namdvilad ar aqvs im faqts, is 400<br />

metrSia Tu 800-Si, radgan sazRvari<br />

gadis kavkasionze da rusebis<br />

bogini saqarTvelos miwis nebismier<br />

monakveTze CvenTvis problemuria.<br />

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am process xeli SevuSaloT,<br />

ar arsebobs. unda gagrZeldes saer-<br />

TaSoriso Zalisxmevis mobilizeba<br />

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amave dros, aucilebelia moxdes<br />

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raTa uzrunvelvyoT okupaciis<br />

xazis mimdebare teritoriaze<br />

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usafrTxoeba, rom okupantebi<br />

kontrolirebad teritoriaze<br />

ver gadmodiodnen da aqedan<br />

xalxi ver gaitacon.<br />

aqamde es problema cxinvalis<br />

mimarTulebiT iyo, bolo dros ki<br />

afxazeTis mimarTulebiTac SeiniSneba<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom enguris<br />

napiris kontroli sakmaod<br />

advilia, cxinvalis saokupacio<br />

zolTan SedarebiT.<br />

okupantebi uproblemod gadmodian<br />

engurze da Cven mier „kontrolirebadi”<br />

teritoriidan<br />

sruliad ukontrolod mihyavT<br />

Cveni moqalaqeebi.<br />

amasobaSi, saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />

pozicia „ruseTis argaziRianebis”<br />

samsaxurSia da amas<br />

faraven, rogorc „provokaciis<br />

Tavidan acilebis mcdelobebs”.<br />

aseTi umoqmedoba okupantebs sa-<br />

Sualebas aZlevs, sruliad dausjelad<br />

imoqmedon im teritoriebze,<br />

romelic, wesiT, Cven mier<br />

kontrolirebadad iwodeba.<br />

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politikur da qveynis mar-<br />

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Sedegs ar mogvcems! amas sWirdeba seriozuli<br />

analizi, romelic qveyanaSi ar mimdinareobs!~<br />

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opozicia ar gaerTiandeba,<br />

arCevnebs xelisufleba moi-<br />

gebs. nawilobriv Tqven ukve<br />

gaeciT am SekiTxvas pasuxi, magram<br />

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gor uyurebT am gancxadebebs<br />

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gaerTianeba? igive „naciona-<br />

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rom TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi<br />

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ba, maT „respublikelebTan”<br />

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gancxadeba, magram, saboloo<br />

jamSi, gaerTianeba ar Sedga.<br />

Tqven rogor uyurebT am pro-<br />

cess?<br />

_ rogorc aRvniSneT, es partiebi<br />

ar warmoadgenen sazogadoebis<br />

mniSvnelovani nawilis<br />

xedvebs da interesebs, iq ufro<br />

pirovnuli ambiciebis Sejaxebaa<br />

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kandidaturas wamoayeneben Tu<br />

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politikuri manevrebis virtuozis,<br />

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mieTmoeTi aris formaluri,<br />

cxeli zafxulis fonze<br />

modis arCevnebi da aq isev<br />

ori tradiciuli partia dar-<br />

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rodesac iseTi gamocdili<br />

kadria, rogorebic arian „respublikelebi”,<br />

es aRarebs, rom<br />

aq Tanmimdevrul ideologiur<br />

pratformas ar aqvs Sansi umravlesobis<br />

mosapoveblad. es<br />

aris mocemuloba, romelic<br />

unda miiRos am mimarTulebis<br />

partiebma, rasac aRiarebs gamocdili<br />

politikosi, Tu man<br />

efeqturi manevri ar gaakeTa.<br />

Tavis droze, es partia xelisuflebaSi<br />

movida „erTian nacionalur<br />

moZraobasTan”, mixeil<br />

saakaSvilTan erTad, Semdeg<br />

movida biZina ivaniSvilTan<br />

erTad, isini iyeneben sxvis<br />

resurss. aleko elisaSvilis<br />

resursi mimzidvelad gamoiyureboda,<br />

magram, saboloo jam-<br />

Si, ar iyo warmatebis momtani,<br />

radgan ar aris fuli, ar aris<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

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`CvenTan, saerTod, politikosebis mimarT nihilizmia, maT ar aqvT kargi<br />

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N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

pirvel sarTulamde ise Cavedi,<br />

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quCaze mdebareobs.<br />

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problemebi aravis awuxebs.<br />

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N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

samxareo policiis ufrosi, uSiSroebac<br />

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Zalaufleba TviTon hqonda, Tu<br />

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am xnis ganmavlobaSi, ramac<br />

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saparlamento arCevnebze samegreloSi da<br />

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xalxis mxardamWerebi marTaven dRes<br />

zugdids - cxrawliani sisxliani reJimidan<br />

gadmoportirebulebi arian dRes viTom<br />

`ocnebis~ mxardamWerebi~<br />

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is, rom axla kursis Senar-<br />

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qaRaldebis bazris eqsper-<br />

ti:<br />

_ am konkretuli auqcionis<br />

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SemTxvevaSi saxelmwifo fasian<br />

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periodi sWirdeba (rogorc wesi,<br />

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rac Seexeba uSualod fasian<br />

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fasiani qaRaldebis bazris<br />

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bankebs ar awyobT igive<br />

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mozidva koporaciuli oblisaxazino<br />

obligaciebi<br />

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`Tu interesebi daemTxva, rom Tavad iZulebulebi arian,<br />

Tavisive gadawyvetilebas angariSi gauwion, finansuri<br />

instrumentebi SearCion da ise amuSaon, rom im TavianT<br />

gadawyvetilebas sxva tipis Crdili ar miadges, esaa mizezi<br />

imisa, Tu ratom cdiloben laris kursis stabilurobas am<br />

farglebSi. ra Tqma unda, am pozicias Riad ar afiqsireben,<br />

magram ra kursic dRes gvaqvs, 2.40-2,39-is farglebSi<br />

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qarTuli saxelmZRvaneloebiT mimdinareobs.<br />

misi TqmiT, swavleba<br />

iqac, rogorc danarCen skolebSi,<br />

rusul enaze unda warimarTos,<br />

qarTuli ki SesaZlebelia, rigiT<br />

sagnad darCes.<br />

es niSnavs, rom scenari igivea,<br />

rac afxazeTSi. 2015 wlidan okupirebuli<br />

afxazeTis teritoriaze<br />

gauqmda qarTuli skolis statusi<br />

da qarTuli ena 2-saaTian<br />

arasavaldebulo sagnad darCa<br />

ramdenime skolis dawyebiT safexurze.<br />

28 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.


yvelaferi ki iqidan daiwyo,<br />

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reJimma „saskolo<br />

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raions miakuTvna, riTac qarTvelebi<br />

umciresobaSi aRmoCndnen da<br />

qarTuli skolebis raodenoba 31-<br />

dan 11-mde Semcirda. mogvianebiT,<br />

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arc erTi qarTuli<br />

skola.<br />

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ver moxerxda okupirebul teritoriebze<br />

skolebSi arsebuli problemuri<br />

sakiTxebis detaluri<br />

ganxilva. sakiTxis aqtualobidan<br />

gamomdinare, xelisuflebam dauyovnebliv<br />

unda daiwyos saerTa-<br />

Soriso institutebSi am sakiTxis<br />

aqtualizacia, rogorc adamianis<br />

fundamenturi Rirebulebebis Selaxvis<br />

faqtze da ganaxorcielos<br />

qmediTi RonisZiebebi.<br />

aucilebelia:<br />

* upirveles problemad ganixilos<br />

aRniSnuli faqti da dauyovnebliv<br />

daiwyos muSaoba okupirebuli<br />

teritoriebis im nawilSi,<br />

sadac moswavleebis, maswavleblebisa<br />

da skolis TanamSromlebis<br />

didi nawili eTnikurad qarTvelia<br />

da maTTvis mSobliuri ena qarTulia,<br />

amasTanave, yvelaferTan er-<br />

Tad, isini ver floben rusul enas,<br />

romelzec maT unda mouwioT<br />

swvalebis warmarTva;<br />

* 2017-18 saswavlo wlisaTvis<br />

okupirebul teritoriebze aRdges<br />

qarTuli skolis statusi;<br />

* aseve, regionSi mcxovrebi yvela<br />

qarTveli moswavlisTvis dauyovnebliv<br />

iqnas miwodebuli saswavlo<br />

procesisaTvis saWiro saskolo<br />

saxelmZRvaneloebis sruli<br />

kompleqti.<br />

_ ratom warmoadgens studen-<br />

tebis programuli dafinanseba<br />

Tanxebis usamarTlo, araraciona-<br />

lur da araefeqtian wess?<br />

_ „qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebaSi<br />

mosvlis dRidan, studentebis<br />

arsebuli wesis paralelurad,<br />

man programuli dafinansebis<br />

programa SemoiRo, rac, Cveni SefasebiT,<br />

Tanxebis usamarTlo, araracionalur<br />

da, Sesabamisad, araefeqtian<br />

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TanxebiT, Zveli, sagranto<br />

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midgomas, romelic „qarTuli<br />

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SemogvTavazes.<br />

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Tanxebs kvlav araracionalurad<br />

da usamarTlod anawilebs.<br />

arsebuli TanxiT, sworad da<br />

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dafinansebul studentTa<br />

raodenoba iqneboda orjer meti<br />

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30%-iani grantebi) da daaxloebiT<br />

18000 students miaRwevda.<br />

martivi magaliTisTvis, sruli<br />

da nawilobrivi dafinansebiT, daaxloebiT,<br />

9 milioniT finansdeboda<br />

9 aTasamde studenti. 30%-is<br />

dafinansebis moxsnis Semdeg am<br />

raodenobam daiklo 6500-mde. programuli<br />

dafinansebiT 12 milioniT<br />

finansdeba (sruli odenobiT),<br />

daaxloebiT, 5000 studenti. aqedan,<br />

yovelwliurad, daaxloebiT,<br />

1200-dan 1500 studentamde, aseve,<br />

sxvadsxva odenobis grants iRebs.<br />

araefeqtianoba da usamarTloba<br />

is gaxlavT, rom programuli<br />

dafinansebis studentebi, sxva programebze<br />

igive Sedegebis mqone<br />

studentebTan SedarebiT, ormag<br />

dafinansebas iReben, xolo studentebi,<br />

romlebsac erovnul gamocdebze<br />

ar miuRiaT saswavlo grantebi<br />

da, Sesabamisad, dabali Sedegebi<br />

aCvenes, 100%-ian dafinansebas<br />

iReben.<br />

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es faqti im SemTxvevaSi, roca yovelwliurad<br />

imatebs statusSeCerebuli<br />

studentebis raodenoba.<br />

wlevandeli monacemebiT, es raodenoba<br />

ukve 38000-s gautolda. am<br />

xnis ganmavlobaSi, „evropuli saqarTvelos”<br />

araerTgzis mowodebis<br />

miuxedavad, detalurad Segveswavla<br />

es problema da dauyovnebliv<br />

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mainc jiutad uWers mxars da agr-<br />

Zelebs marTlac mavnebluri, araracionaluri<br />

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dafinansebis sistemas da<br />

arasamarTliani gadanawilebiT<br />

uazrod flangavs saxelmwifo biujetidan<br />

milionobiT lars.<br />

_ ratom mosTxoveT „evropulma<br />

saqarTvelom” premiersa da ga-<br />

naTlebis ministrs ganaTlebis<br />

sistemaSi arsebul xarvezebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT ganmartebebi?<br />

_ roca ganaTlebis sistemaSi<br />

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Zlebloba), roca qarTuli enisa da<br />

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Tlebis ministri, aramed umaRlesi<br />

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unda akeTebdnen ganmartebebs.<br />

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aTeul milionobiT lari biujetidan<br />

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da moqmedi dafinansebis wesi<br />

xelisuflebis mxridanac ki Sefasebulia,<br />

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da mavne praqtika; Tumca mainc<br />

jiutad grZeldeba aTeuli<br />

milionis flangva biujetidan.<br />

bunebrivia, ganmartebebi unda gaakeTos<br />

premierma. da aseTi araer-<br />

Ti argumentis moyvana SeiZleba,<br />

roca sistemuri problemebi saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

rangisaa da erTi<br />

saministros mavne muSaobis Sefasebasa<br />

da kritikas scildeba.<br />

_ ra dadebiTi cvlilebebis<br />

motana SeuZlia Tqvens kandidat<br />

elene xoStarias, maT Soris, ga-<br />

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_ rac Seexeba „evropul saqarTvelos”<br />

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merobis Cvens kandidat elene xoStarias,<br />

erTi, rac Tamamad SeiZleba<br />

iTqvas, elene ualternativo<br />

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is problemebi, romelic dgas<br />

Cveni qalaqis winaSe da, rac mniSvnelovania,<br />

TiToeuli problemis<br />

gadaWris konkretuli gza aqvs.<br />

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winaSe mdgar problemebs, uSualo<br />

Sexeba aqvs, rogorc „Tavisufali<br />

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politikosis Sexedulebas<br />

efuZneba, aramed rogorc uSualod<br />

procesis monawilis mosazrebebia.<br />

aRsaniSnavi da xazgasasmelia is<br />

faqti, rom dRes yvelasTvis Tval-<br />

Sisacmia nepotisturi da korufciuli<br />

sqemebi dasaqmebis sferoSi.<br />

elenes merobisas mTavari kriteriumi<br />

kompetencia da Tanamedrove<br />

ganaTleba iqneba dasaqmebis sferoSi.<br />

aseve, mniSvnelovania, dRes axalgazrdebs<br />

mieceT dasaqmebis sa-<br />

Sualeba, unarebisa da SesaZleblobebis<br />

mixedviT SeZlon saku-<br />

Tari cxovrebis dagegmva profesiuli<br />

ganviTarebisa da karieruli<br />

winsvlis kuTxiT.<br />

movlenebs win ar gavuswreb,<br />

radgan uaxloes momavalSi elene<br />

Tavad warmoadgens programas ganaTlebis<br />

mimarTulebiT, erTi ki<br />

darwmunebiT SemiZlia vTqva, am<br />

programaSi gaTvaliswinebulia ganaTlebis<br />

sferos yvela mimarTuleba,<br />

gaanalizebulia yvela problema<br />

da SemoTavazebulia maTi<br />

gadaWris konkretuli gzebi. uaxloes<br />

momavalSi am xedvebs sazogadoeba<br />

detalurad gaecnoba.<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

elene xoStaria<br />

`elene axlos icnobs ganaTlebis winaSe mdgar problemebs, uSualo<br />

Sexeba aqvs, rogorc `Tavisufali universitetis~ leqtors<br />

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ara mxolod politikosis Sexedulebas efuZneba, aramed rogorc<br />

uSualod procesis monawilis mosazrebebia. aRsaniSnavi da<br />

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mimarTuleba, gaanalizebulia yvela problema da SemoTavazebulia<br />

maTi gadaWris konkretuli gzebi~<br />

29


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mogaxseneT, 6,5 milion kvadratul<br />

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da rekreaciisTvis unda<br />

gamoviyenoT. ager zafxulia da<br />

grZnobT TbilisSi ra mdgomareobaa,<br />

es realoba kidev ufro<br />

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gamocxadda da damkveTi dedaqalaqis<br />

meriis arqiteqturis samsaxuria.<br />

CavTvaloT, rom damkve-<br />

Ti Tbilisis meriaa. Cven aseTi<br />

davaleba gvqonda da maT yovel<br />

sam TveSi erTxel garkveuli<br />

dokumentaciis CamonaTvals va-<br />

ZlevdiT. isini miReba-Cabarebis<br />

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dokumenti, es, ZiriTadad, arqiteqturis<br />

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dokumentia. Tumca ar<br />

SeiZleba, arqiteqturis samsaxurma<br />

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aris gansazRvruli. es ganaSenianebis<br />

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magaliTad, kalaZe, - kaci vice-premieri iyo da<br />

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dapirebebs gvaZlevs, rasac, bunebrivia, ar<br />

gaakeTebs. aseve, `nacionaluri moZraobis~<br />

warmomadgenlebma Tavi imiT isaxeles, rom tye<br />

da gamwvaneba ar datoves, axla ki programaSi<br />

aqvT es gamwvaneba. amitom maTi imedic ar maqvs~<br />

maneTTan ganlagebuli, ramdenad<br />

daqanebuli ferdobia, im adgilze<br />

warmoiSoba Tu ara wylis<br />

nakadebi wvimis dros da a.S.<br />

_ qalaqis meria aseTi tipis<br />

gamowvevebze ramdenad adekva-<br />

tur reagirebas axdens, Tqveni<br />

dakvirveba rogoria?<br />

_ adekvaturi reagireba rom<br />

momxdariyo, imas gaakeTebdnen,<br />

razec ukve mogaxseneT. anu sagangebo<br />

viTarebas gamoacxadebdnen,<br />

an saWiro Tanxebi gamoiZebneboda<br />

problemebis gadasawyvetad.<br />

amis magivrad Tbilisis meria Tanxebs<br />

raRac sisuleleSi xarjavs.<br />

magaliTad, gamwvanebis egidiT<br />

Tanxa ixarjeba iseTi skverebis<br />

Tavidan gakeTebaSi, romlebic<br />

isedac kargi skverebia. daaxloebiT,<br />

150 aTasi lari daixarja<br />

vaJa-fSavelaze, ovalur skverze,<br />

romelic isedac erT-erTi yvelaze<br />

lamazi skveri iyo Tbilis-<br />

Si. iq Zalian bevri vardis buCqi<br />

iyo. adgnen, moTxares es vardis<br />

buCqebi da raRac Zvirfasi zeTisxilis<br />

xeebi darges, isic mcire<br />

raodenobiT. es 150 aTasi lari<br />

dajda da axla iquroba, lamis,<br />

sasaflaos daemsgavsa.<br />

rac mTavaria, amiT arc erTi<br />

kvadratuli metri gamwvanebas ar<br />

Sematebia. Tan teritoria iseT<br />

adgilasaa, sadac adamiani fexiT<br />

ver midis. anu mas rekreaciuli<br />

daniSnuleba ar gaaCnia, garSemo<br />

Zalian didi moZraobaa, gadasavlelic<br />

ar aqvs.<br />

igive sisuleleSi daixarja<br />

fuli saakaZis Zeglis garSemo<br />

rom skveria. anu iq adamiani ar<br />

dadis, adgils rekreaciuli Rirebuleba<br />

ar gaaCnia... mere ityvian,<br />

rom fuli aRar gvyofniso.<br />

Tu aseT raRacebSi daxarjav, bunebrivia,<br />

ar geyofa.<br />

gamwvanebaze aradekvatur<br />

RonisZiebebs atareben.<br />

_ ra swori nabijebi unda ga-<br />

daidgas im fonze, roca viciT,<br />

rom dedaqalaqSi gamwvanebis<br />

mxriv katastrofuli mdgomar-<br />

eoba gvaqvs?<br />

_ unda aikrZalos nebismieri<br />

mSenebloba an msgavsi qmedeba,<br />

romelic mwvane nargavebs Seamcirebs.<br />

Sewydes yovelgvari ase-<br />

Ti farTobis privatizeba (nebismieri<br />

pirobiT) gamwvanebul teritoriaze,<br />

radgan amas moyveba<br />

mxolod erTaderTi Sedegi _<br />

gaCexva da iq raRacebis gaSeneba.<br />

dawesdes limitebi, Tu kerZo<br />

teritoriazec ramdenis Seneba<br />

SeeZleba adamians. magaliTad, kerZo<br />

teritoriaze adamians ar<br />

unda SeeZlos, rom es sivrce<br />

mTlianad nagebobebad gadaaq-<br />

cios. maqsimalurad unda Seiz-<br />

Rudos parkebis mSeneblobis<br />

dros miwis dafarva mopirkeTebiT<br />

(marmarilo da a. S). es fulis<br />

keTebis meti araferia da<br />

aravis sWirdeba marmariloTi da<br />

granitiT dafaruli parkebi.<br />

es Tanxebi unda moxmardes<br />

arsebuli dazianebuli xeebis gajansaRebas,<br />

maT axlebiT Canacvlebas<br />

da sadac jer kidev Sesa-<br />

Zlebelia, axali sarekreacio<br />

zonebi unda Seiqmnas.<br />

_ kustbis ferdobs vakis<br />

parks uerTeben...<br />

_ esec xalxis motyuebaa, radgan<br />

araferi SeuerTdeba. martivad<br />

SegiZliaT SexedoT teritorias,<br />

romelzec saubaria, ramdeni<br />

iyo vakis parki, axla ramdeni<br />

aris darCenili da a. S.<br />

es, ubralod, xalxis motyueba<br />

da sinamdvileSi araferi mniSvnelovani<br />

gamwvanebuli teritoria<br />

ar emateba. amas is xalxi acxadebs,<br />

visac Tavisive mier gakeTebul<br />

rukaSi arc Cauxedavs.<br />

_ gulisxmobT, rom es fer-<br />

`xelovnuri wiwvovanebi nel-nela foTlovani<br />

tyiT unda Caanacvlon, radgan foTlovani tye,<br />

jer erTi, xanZrisadmi gamZlea da, meorec,<br />

foTlovani xe ufro met Jangbads gamoyofs da<br />

met naxSirorJangs STanTqavs~<br />

dobi isedac ekuTvnoda aRiS-<br />

nul teritorias?<br />

_ odesRac ekuTvnoda da dRes<br />

imis Zalian mcire nawilze midis<br />

saubari. Tan kustbamde ki ara, am<br />

sivrceSi Zalian mcire teritoria<br />

xvdeba, amitom aris es gancxadeba<br />

sicrue.<br />

rogorc Cans, raRac teritoriis<br />

kidev viRac kerZo mesakuTreebze<br />

gacemas apireben da<br />

axla piarisTvis amboben, rom vi-<br />

Tom mcire nawils sarekreacio<br />

zonas vaZlevTo. realoba aseTia<br />

da ajobebs, am mxriv tyuilebs<br />

Tavi daanebon.<br />

_ adgilobriv arCevnebze<br />

vinmes xom ar uWerT mxars?<br />

_ jerjerobiT, aranairi prioriteti<br />

ar gvaqvs adgilobriv<br />

arCevnebTan dakavSrebiT, magram<br />

zustad vici, rom visac aqamde<br />

araferi gaukeTebia, is amis Semdegac<br />

sasikeTos arafers gaakeTebs.<br />

magaliTad, kalaZe, _ kaci<br />

vice-premieri iyo da araferi<br />

gaukeTebia am mimarTulebiT da<br />

axal dapirebebs gvaZlevs, rasac,<br />

bunebrivia, ar gaakeTebs.<br />

aseve, „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />

warmomadgenlebma Tavi imiT<br />

isaxeles, rom tye da gamwvaneba<br />

ar datoves, axla ki programaSi<br />

aqvT es gamwvaneba. amitom maTi<br />

imedic ar maqvs.<br />

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abrebasTan dakavSirebiT sakanonmdeblo iniciativaze muSaobs.<br />

rogorc partiis wevrebi acxadeben, sapensio asaki, qalisa da<br />

mamakacis SemTxvevaSi, 60 weli unda iyos.<br />

„axali saqarTvelos” lideri,<br />

giorgi vaSaZe, miiCnevs, rom qal-<br />

isa da mamakacis sapensio asakSi<br />

gansxvaveba sruliad diskriminaciuli<br />

midgomaa: „Cven mivmar-<br />

TavT samarTlebriv proceduras<br />

da moviTxovT asakis gaTanabre-<br />

bas. mimaCnia, rom es asaki unda<br />

iyos 60 weli. amisTvis, pirvel<br />

rigSi, Cven SevagrovebT 30 000 xelmoweras,<br />

Semdeg ki sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTloSi SevitanT sar-<br />

Cels. es ar aris saarCevno kampaniis<br />

nawili. es procesi gagr-<br />

Zeldeba da Cven am saqmes bolomde<br />

miviyvanT. ganviTarebul qveynebSi<br />

qalisa da mamakacis sapen-<br />

sio asaki gaTanabrebulia. is<br />

norma, romelic dRes Cvens kanonSia,<br />

diskriminaculia”, _ ga-<br />

nacxada giorgi vaSaZem.<br />

iniciativa, sapensio asakis ga-<br />

TanabrebasTan dakavSirebiT „axali<br />

saqarTvelos” qalTa orga-<br />

nizacias ekuTvnis. organizaciis<br />

xelmZRvanelis, Teona WaliZis<br />

TqmiT, isini imuSaveben problemur<br />

sakiTxebze, romelic ara mxolod<br />

qalebs, aramed mamakaceb-<br />

sac exeba: „is sakanonmdeblo no-<br />

rma, romelic Cven gvaqvs, aris<br />

diskriminaciuli rogorc kaceb-<br />

isTvis, aseve qalebisTvis. mas Se-<br />

mdeg, rac Cven CamovayalibeT qa-<br />

lTa organizacia, vmuSaobT araerT<br />

problemur sakiTxze. qal-<br />

Ta organizacia ar gulisxmobs<br />

mxolod qalebisTvis problemur<br />

Temebze muSaobas. es sakanonmde-<br />

blo norma, romelic dRes Cven<br />

gvaqvs, aris diskriminaciuli.<br />

Cven viTxovT realur Tanaswo-<br />

robas. orive SemTxvevaSi sapensio<br />

asaki unda iyos 60 weli da amis-<br />

Tvis Cven gadavdgamT qmediT na-<br />

bijebs. xelmowerebs SevagrovebT<br />

mTeli saqarTvelos masStabiT”,<br />

_ ganacxada Teona WaliZem.<br />

„axali saqarTvelos” qalTa<br />

organizaciis iniciativaze sasamarTloSi<br />

warsadgen sakonsti-<br />

tucio sarCels iuristi marika<br />

arevaZe amzadebs. am saqmesTan<br />

dakavSirebiT „qronika+~-s -s mari-<br />

ka arevaZe esaubreba:<br />

_ marika, rogorc sazogadoebisTvis<br />

9 agvistos gaxda cno-<br />

bili, politikuri platforma<br />

„axali saqarTvelos” wevrebi<br />

apir<br />

ireben, sapensio asakis gaTan-<br />

abrebis kuTxiT mimarTon parla-<br />

ments sakanonmdeblo winadadebiT<br />

da paralelurad mimarTon sa-<br />

konstitucio sasamarTlos, am<br />

nawilSi ki advokatirebas swored<br />

Tqven gauwevT. ris moTxovnas<br />

apirebT sakonstitucio sarCe-<br />

lis farglebSi?<br />

_ Cemi informaciiT maT ukve<br />

mimarTes sakanonmdeblo organos<br />

da Sesabamisi blankebis miRebas<br />

elodebian, rom xelmowerebis Segroveba<br />

daiwyon. rac Seexeba sakonstitucio<br />

sarCels da mis farglebs,<br />

„axali saqarTvelos” warmomadgenlebi<br />

damikavSirdnen, ma-<br />

Ti Sexeduleba gamacnes am sakiTx-<br />

Tan mimarTebiT da maTTvis warmomadgenlobis<br />

gaweva mTxoves<br />

swored sakonstitucio sarCelis<br />

farglebSi.<br />

_ Sesabamisad, Tqven aRniSnul<br />

saqmeSi CarTuli iqnebiT, rog-<br />

orc advokati, Tu „axali saqarTv<br />

Tvelos” qalTa organizaciis<br />

wevri xarT?<br />

_ me var advokati da politikurad<br />

neitraluri moqalaqe,<br />

Sesabamisad, ar var arc erTi partiis<br />

warmomadgeneli da am davis<br />

farglebSic „axal saqarTvelos”<br />

da maT qalTa organizacias gavuwev<br />

sasamarTlo warmomadgenlobas.<br />

_ davubrundeT sarCels da<br />

mis farglebSi Tqvens moTxov-<br />

nas...<br />

_ sakonstitucio sarCelis<br />

farglebSi Cven davayenebT saxelmwifo<br />

pensiis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos<br />

kanonis me-5 muxlis pirveli<br />

punqtis konstituciurobis Semowmebis<br />

sakiTxs, saqarTvelos konstituciis<br />

me-14 muxlTan mimarTebiT.<br />

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qalisa da mamakacis sapensio<br />

asaki gaTanabrdeba?!<br />

marika<br />

arevaZe<br />

saqarTvelos konstituciis me-14<br />

muxliT aRiarebulia yvela adamianis<br />

Tanasworoba kanonis winaSe.<br />

aRniSnuli muxli gamoricxavs<br />

raime saxis diskriminacias nebismieri<br />

niSniT. saxelmwifo pensiis<br />

Sesaxeb saqarTvelos kanoni ki<br />

ambobs, rom „pensiaze uflebis<br />

warmoSobis safuZvelia sapensio<br />

asakis _ 65 wlis miRweva. amasTanave,<br />

pensiaze ufleba qalebs warmoeSobaT<br />

60 wlidan”; anu uSvebs<br />

qalebisa da kacebis araTanabar,<br />

uTanasworo mdgomareobas asak-<br />

Tan mimarTebiT, sxvaoba ki ganpirobebulia<br />

genderuli niSniT.<br />

amitom migvaCnia, rom adgili aqvs<br />

diskriminacias da swored aRniSnuli<br />

sakiTxis gadasawyvetad mivmarTavT<br />

sakonstitucio sasamarTlos.<br />

sarCeli ukve mzad maqvs<br />

da uaxloes dReebSi movaxdenT<br />

mis daregistrirebas.<br />

_ am iniciativam azrTa sxva-<br />

dasxvaoba gamoiwvia. Tqveni azr-<br />

iT, es ram ganapiroba?<br />

_ gamoxmaurebebs mec mivadevne<br />

Tvali da sazogadoebis mxridan,<br />

ZiriTadad, dadebiTi Sefasebebia,<br />

Tumca aris sawinaaRmdego azric,<br />

rac qalTa uflebebis damcvelebisgan<br />

modis. maTi pozicia, rogorc<br />

vnaxe, aris is, rom jer mosagvarebelia<br />

mTeli rigi sxva sakiTxebi<br />

da mxolod Semdeg SeiZleba<br />

am sakiTxis dRis wesrigSi dayeneba.<br />

bunebrivia, CemTvis saintereso<br />

da mniSvnelovania Sefasebebis<br />

mosmena. mniSvnelovani da pativsacemia<br />

qalTa uflebebis damcvelebis<br />

poziciac, amitom vfiqrob,<br />

Tuki maT eqnebaT survili da<br />

mzaoba, Sevxvdebi kidec am sakiTxis<br />

gasavlelad, magram erTia problemuri<br />

sakiTxebis mogvarebis<br />

rigiTobaze msjeloba da meore _<br />

konkretuli movlenis samarTlebrivi<br />

Sefaseba. samarTlebrivi<br />

TvalsazrisiT ki sadavo norma<br />

(gansxvavebuli sapensio asaki) namdvilad<br />

diskriminaciuli niSnebis<br />

matarebelia. amavdroulad,<br />

marTalia, adamianis uflebaTa<br />

evropuli sasamarTlos praqtika<br />

ar adgens am niSniT diskriminacias,<br />

magram sxvadasxva evropul<br />

SefasebaSi Riad aris saubari am<br />

niSnis mixedviT uTanasworobaze.<br />

garda amisa, saqarTveloSi yvelaze<br />

mTavari kanoni aris konstitucia<br />

da konstituciis daTqmebs<br />

unda Seesabamebodes yvela sxva<br />

kanoni/normatiuli aqti, maT Soris,<br />

saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebic.<br />

_ saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebis<br />

Canaweri, am mxriv, winaaRmdegobaSi<br />

modis konstitucia-<br />

sTan?<br />

_ araviTar SemTxvevaSi. magaliTad,<br />

adamianis uflebaTa da ZiriTad<br />

TavisuflebaTa Sesaxeb konvencia<br />

(igive evrokonvecia), misi<br />

damatebiTi oqmi, adamianis uflebaTa<br />

deklaracia da rigi sxva dokumentebi<br />

_ krZalavs yovelgvar<br />

diskriminacias, iqneba es pirdapiri<br />

Tu iribi. Sesabamisad, am dokumentebiTac<br />

aRiarebulia yvela<br />

adamianis Tanasworoba kanonis<br />

winaSe.<br />

saqarTvelos konstituciis me-<br />

14 muxli adamians icavs ukanono<br />

diskriminaciisgan. Sesabamisad, sadavo<br />

normis Sinaarsis dadgenisa<br />

da misi konstituciis meore Tavis<br />

moTxovnebTan Sesabamisobis sakiTxis<br />

gansazRvrisas sasamarTlos<br />

mier erT-erTi, rac unda iyos<br />

gamokvleuli, aris diskriminaciis<br />

daSvebis legitimuroba, misi<br />

mizani da daadginos is sikeTe, Tu<br />

ris gadarCenas emsaxureba msgavsi<br />

uTanasworoba. sasamarTlom<br />

aseve unda gamoikvlios msgavsi<br />

diskriminaciuli midgomiT, ramdenad<br />

didia daculi sikeTis mniSvneloba,<br />

Selaxuli sikeTis mniSvnelobasTan<br />

mimarTebiT. rac Seexeba<br />

am uTanasworobis gamarTlebas,<br />

es saqarTvelos parlamentma<br />

unda moaxdinos da aseTi Canaweris<br />

gasamarTleblad unda wamoayenos<br />

myari argumentebi. amitom<br />

vfiqrob, rom saxelmwifos argumentirebuli<br />

poziciis mosmena<br />

mniSvnelovani iqneba am sarCelis<br />

SedegisTvis.<br />

_ zogierT SemTxvevaSi es uTanasworoba<br />

ar miiCneva diskriminaciad,<br />

magaliTad, samxedro sam-<br />

saxuris dros...<br />

_ diax, sakonstitucio sasamarTlos<br />

sqesis niSniT SesaZlo<br />

diskriminaciaze aqvs namsjeli da<br />

im sarCelis farglebSi ar miiCnia<br />

gansxvaveba diskriminaciad. magram<br />

es ori saqme mniSvnelovnad gansxvavdeba<br />

erTmaneTisgan, vinaidan<br />

im saqmeSi sakonstitucio sasamarTlom<br />

ganmarta, rom samxedro<br />

samsaxuri da qveynis Tavdacvis sakiTxebi<br />

miznad ar isaxavs sqesis<br />

niSniT diskriminacias, emsaxureba<br />

qveynis Tavdacvisunarianobisa<br />

da usafrTxoebis umniSvnelovanes<br />

legitimur miznebs da warmoadgens<br />

amgvari miznebis miRwevis<br />

dasaSveb, aucilebel da proporciul<br />

saSualebas. Cven mier warsadgeni<br />

sarCelis Sinaarsi ki arsebiTad<br />

gansxvavebulia, vinaidan<br />

am SemTxvevaSi qalisa da mamakacis<br />

mimarT gansxvavebuli mopyrobis<br />

dros adgili ar aqvs saxelmwifo<br />

Tavdacvisa da qveynis usafrTxoebis<br />

maRal legitimur mizans,<br />

romelic uTanasworobisa da<br />

uflebaSi Carevis proporciulad<br />

da Tanazomier Carevad SeiZleba<br />

miviCnioT.<br />

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yofila.<br />

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yofila 7 miliardi. am kompa-<br />

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xelT maqvs levan samxaraulis<br />

eqspertizis biuros<br />

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gancxadebis anotaciis namdvilobis<br />

dasadgenad gamoyoT komisia,<br />

aRricxon da daadginon<br />

dRevandeli mdgomareobis Sesabamisad<br />

sakompensacio Tanxa,<br />

rom umokles vadaSi SevZlo<br />

samkvidros mopoveba-meTqi. mivitane<br />

es werili, gadis garkveuli<br />

dro, 30 marts mivakiTxe da<br />

daaweres baton abramiSvils,<br />

romelmac aseTi pasuxi gamomigzavna:<br />

„kompania „jorjian manganezs”<br />

Tqvens sacxovrebelTan<br />

axlos 2007 wlis Semdeg samTo<br />

samuSaoebi ar uwarmoebia. aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, Tqveni Txovna<br />

sakompensacio Tanxis Taobaze<br />

ver dakmayofildeba”. es ar iyo<br />

pasuxi, es iyo paskvili, abramiSvilma<br />

Zalian kargad icoda,<br />

rom aq Tanxebi gacemuli hqondaT,<br />

magram mas piradi interesi<br />

aqvs.<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ abramiSvils misi cudi saqcielis<br />

gamo, Tavis droze, Cemma<br />

meuRlem miuTiTa da uTxra,<br />

_ Senma materialurma mdgomareobam<br />

Segicvala imiji da qalaqisTvis<br />

araferi gaqvs gakeTebulio.<br />

es radgan xalxSi uTxra,<br />

ar apatia da saqmeebis garCeva<br />

qurdul samyaroSic ki daiwyo.<br />

es moxda 15 wlis winaT. axla am<br />

faqtebs imitom vixseneb, rom<br />

„qronika+~-s esaubreba meri<br />

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_ qalaq WiaTuraSi vcxovrobdiT,<br />

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da sacxovreblad sofel<br />

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es Ria karieri kompaniisTvis<br />

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ise ver gamoiReb wiaRiseuls, iq<br />

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Zalian didi moTxovnaa. jer kidev<br />

ar viciT, WiaTuridan ra<br />

raodenobis ganZi gaedineba! am<br />

34<br />

`ratom ar unazRaurebs zians<br />

`jorjian manganezi~ sofel<br />

darkveTSi mcxovreb ojaxs?!~<br />

nias aqvs aseTi Stati: mosaxleobasTan<br />

da TviTmmarTvelobas-<br />

Tan urTierTobis samsaxuri,<br />

romlis ufrosi gaxlavT levan<br />

abramiSvili. mas adridanve vicnob,<br />

magram masTan ar mivsulvar<br />

da werili davwere „jorjian<br />

manganezis” direqtoris<br />

saxelze. werilSi vwer, rom<br />

darkveTSi vflobT sacxovrebel<br />

saxls da miwis nakveTs, xexilsa<br />

da venaxs, TandarTuli<br />

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miwiszeda samuSaobma da<br />

misma transportirebam gamoiwvia<br />

ara mxolod sacxovrisis<br />

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amas Tan erTvis<br />

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rodis Camoingreva saxli ar vici,<br />

erTi ki vici, rom amas Se-<br />

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yvelas xom erTi istoria gvaqvs<br />

da Cven _ ara?! amis Semdeg<br />

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unda iyoso? Semdeg isev mivmarTe<br />

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xelmZRvnelobas da isev<br />

vTxove komisiis gamogzavna, isic<br />

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amis Semdeg kupataZe<br />

mTeli Tavisi aparatiT CemTan<br />

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8 maiss maTgan miviRe aseTi<br />

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davas da Tqveni uflebebis<br />

dacvis mizniT SegiZliaT mimarToT<br />

sasamarTloso. Semdeg<br />

mivedi parlamentis deputat<br />

sulxan maxaTaZesTan, romelic<br />

adre gamgebeli iyo. man kupataZisgan<br />

gansxvavebiT miTxra,<br />

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om werils miswerda „jorjian<br />

manganezis” generalur direqtor<br />

volodimir lozinskis.<br />

vuTxari, _ batono sulxan, ra<br />

saWiroa, rom lozinskim gadawyvitos<br />

es saqme, maqvs informacia,<br />

rom Tqven da abramiSvili<br />

Zalian kargad xarT erTmaneT-<br />

Tan, aq araferia iseTi, gTxovT,<br />

gamikeTeT masTan nivelireba, am<br />

zamTars aq ver gavCerdebi-meTqi.<br />

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Seicvala lozinski<br />

da mis nacvlad axla aris nikoloz<br />

Ciqovani. lozinskisTan<br />

misuli werili gadaeca Ciqovans.<br />

am periodSi aseve mivmarTe<br />

„axalgazrda iuristTa asociacias”,<br />

gadaveci dokumentebi da<br />

Tavidanve vuTxari, rom sasamarTlos<br />

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radgan Cems mdgomareobaSi myofi<br />

arc erTi mezobeli sasamarTlomde<br />

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ise aunazRaures. saiam administraciuli<br />

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Sevida ori werili, erTi<br />

Cemi saxeliT, romelic „axalgazrda<br />

iuristTa asociaciam”<br />

Seadgina da meore deputat sulxan<br />

maxaTaZis saxeliT. es orive<br />

werili nikoloz Ciqovanma<br />

isev levan abramiSvils daawera.<br />

mainc davelode movlenebis ganviTarebas,<br />

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var da ase unda momeqcnen?! radgan<br />

es ori werili isev abramiSvils<br />

daewera, mas mivakiTxe.<br />

pasuxs ar maZlevs arc me da<br />

arc deputats. rodesac erTi<br />

ambavi avtexeT, Cemi Svilebi<br />

Camovidnen, mivediT da werilebze<br />

pasuxi moviTxoveT. movida<br />

kompaniis warmomadgeneli da<br />

gviTxra, _ dawereT gancxadeba,<br />

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rom werilebze pasuxs iTxov-<br />

To. davwere da pasuxi maqvs ufro<br />

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wavedi maRaros direqtor gabriWiZesTan.<br />

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rom me veyrdnobi werils, romliTac<br />

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miTxra, _ aravin mogatyuoT,<br />

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Txra, _ bodiSi, qalbatono meri,<br />

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ra aris samoqalaqo saqme, miT<br />

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ar iTvaliswinebs, rasac vi-<br />

Txov. daaxloebiT 3-4 wlis winaT<br />

daiwyo es problema. Tu abramiSvili<br />

imas ambobs, rom 2007<br />

wlis Semdeg am adgilze samuSaoebi<br />

ar gviwarmoebia, ager<br />

aris garemos dacvis daskvnameTqi.<br />

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lo...<br />

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igi TviTnaswavli xelovania.<br />

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22 wlis sociolog gogonas<br />

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sociologia _ es aris adamianebTan<br />

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CemTvis maSindelidan moyolebuli<br />

didi stimuli iyo da aris axlac.<br />

stimulic da motivaciac. Zalian<br />

did mniSvnelobas vaniWeb praqtikul<br />

codnasa da gamocdilebas<br />

ara mxolod am sferoSi, aramed<br />

yvelgan. SeiZleba Teoriulad yvelaferi<br />

zedmiwevniT kargad icode,<br />

Tumca misi praqtikaSi ganxorcileba<br />

ver SeZlo. Sesabamisad, is<br />

dro CemTvis dasafasebeli, Sromatevadi<br />

da tkbilad gasaxsenebelia.<br />

TiToeuli Secdomis gamosworeba<br />

da is, Tu rogor vixvewebodi,<br />

kargad maxsovs. mgonia, rom<br />

Cemeuli silamazis aRqma maqvs, rogorc<br />

yvela sxva individualur<br />

adamians.<br />

_ ra sirTuleebi Segxvda gzad<br />

cxovrebaSi?<br />

_ albaT ar arsebobs adamiani,<br />

romelsac Tundac patara, magram<br />

rTulad gadasalaxi periodi ar<br />

hqonia. aseT dros gamovicdebiT<br />

TiToeuli Cvengani da swored sir-<br />

Tuleebi gvexmareba, dagvanaxos<br />

Cveni susti da Zlieri mxareebi,<br />

rogor SevZlebT Cveni upiratesobebis<br />

sworad warmoCenas da myarad<br />

fexze dadgomas. konkretuli<br />

araferi maxsendeba cudad, magram<br />

Cems ojaxSi bevrjer yofila materialuri<br />

problemebi, Tumca mgonia,<br />

rom didi Sromis Sedegad yvelaferi<br />

miRwevadia da swored am<br />

gziT mivdivar axlac.<br />

_ ras grZnob maSin, rodesac<br />

SenTan mosuli gogona an qalbatoni<br />

Seni namuSevriT aRfrTov-<br />

anebulia?<br />

_ es is SegrZnebaa, romlis gadmocemac<br />

sityvebiT marTla ar SemiZlia.<br />

am dros ubednieresi var,<br />

Tumca es sityva kidev ver aRwers<br />

im emociebs, romlebic erTdroulad<br />

iyrian Tavs CemSi. asmagad, aTasmagad<br />

da milionmagad bednieri,<br />

amayi, gaxarebuli vxdebi, roca vxedav,<br />

rom sxvas bednierebas da sixaruls<br />

vaniWeb. mgonia, rom cxovrebaSi<br />

arsebobs grZnobebi, romlebsac<br />

verasdros gadmoscem sityvebiT.<br />

_ ras niSnavs iyo ganaTlebiT<br />

sociologi da, amavdroulad,<br />

SegeZlos makiaJis xelovnebis<br />

SesaniSnavad floba?<br />

_ imdenad aris orive maTgani<br />

CemTvis urTierTkavSirSi, rom<br />

kargis mets arafers niSnavs. zustad<br />

adamianebTan urTierTobaa<br />

sociologiis fundamenturi sakvlevi<br />

sakiTxi da swored adamianebTan<br />

urTierTobaa CemTvis am<br />

xelovnebis flobac, amavdroulad.<br />

orive maTgani Cemi profesiaa<br />

da es CemTvis saamayoa.<br />

_ vin gifasebs yvelaze obieq-<br />

turad Sens namuSevrebs?<br />

_ yvelaze obieqturad, mainc,<br />

mgonia, rom deda mifasebs namuSevrebs,<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom Cemi<br />

uaxloesi megobrebic arian Cemi<br />

mrCevlebi yvela sakiTxSi, ara mxolod<br />

Cems am saqmianobaSi. dedas<br />

azri CemTvis upirvelesi da umniSvnelovanesia.<br />

arasdros SemiZlia<br />

misi Sexedulebebis gauTvaliswinebloba,<br />

imdenad ramdenadac mgonia,<br />

rom yvelaze metad mas unda,<br />

rom viyo warmatebuli da mivaRwio<br />

bevrs im saqmeSi, rac Cems cxovrebaSi<br />

umTavresia da romlis keTebac<br />

msiamovnebs. bevrjer uTqvams,<br />

mariam WumburiZe:<br />

`ar davnebdebi<br />

da arasdros<br />

davyri far-<br />

xmals, raTa<br />

uari ar vTqva<br />

Cems ocnebebze~<br />

Tu rame Sesworebas Seitanda romelime<br />

maTganSi, magram gulwrfelad<br />

rom giTxraT, es Zalian iSviaTad<br />

xdeba, iqidan gamomdinare,<br />

rom Cveni gemovneba, xedvebi da<br />

azrebi erTmaneTs emTxveva.<br />

_ zogadad Tu xatav, an gicdia<br />

am mimarTulebiT wasvla?<br />

_ Zalian xSirad mekiTxebian, Tu<br />

vxatav da yovelTvis mecineba, sanam<br />

vupasuxeb, radgan ramdenad<br />

gasaocaric ar unda iyos, ar vxatav.<br />

rac dro gadis, mgonia, rom ar<br />

aris aucilebeli viyo mxatvari,<br />

romelic raime tiloze gadmoitans<br />

nebismier silamazes, radgan<br />

iseve rogorc misTvis, aseve CemTvisac<br />

mniSvnelovania xedva, ferebi,<br />

silamazis individualuri<br />

aRqma. adamianis saxe da am saxeze<br />

namuSevari makiaJis saxiT _ swored<br />

esaa CemTvis xelovneba da xatva.<br />

Tumca am Temaze fiqris Semdeg samomavlod<br />

vapireb sakuTari Sesa-<br />

Zleblobebis gamocdas. iqneb, arasworadac<br />

mgonia da isic mSvenivrad<br />

gamomdis.<br />

_ vin ggulSematkivrobs am<br />

saqmeSi yvelaze metad?<br />

_ sabednierod, marTla Zalian<br />

bevri gulSematkivari myavs, ase<br />

konkretulad aravis gamoyofa ar<br />

SemiZlia. yvelani midganan gverd-<br />

Si da sjeraT Cemi. ara mxolod<br />

ojaxis wevrebi, axloblebi, naTesavebi,<br />

daqalebi da a. S., aramed<br />

sruliad ucxo adamianebi, romlebic<br />

Cemi namuSevrebis naxvis Semdeg<br />

mweren, Tbil sityvebs meubnebian,<br />

mamxneveben, aRfrTovanebulebi<br />

arian Cemi SemoqmedebiT da<br />

warmatebebs misurveben. arc ki<br />

vici, ra vuTxra TiToeul maTgans<br />

udidesi madlobis, pativiscemisa<br />

da dafasebis garda. arc erTs<br />

arasdros gavucrueb imedebs da<br />

Cem mimarT ndobas.<br />

_ zogadad, ras akeTeb yvelaze<br />

didi siamovnebiT?<br />

_ mokled minda, am kiTxvaze gipasuxo:<br />

yvelaze didi siamovnebiT<br />

vakeTeb imas, risi gakeTebiTac sxvas<br />

vabedniereb!<br />

_ visTvis an risTvis ar genane-<br />

ba raime?<br />

_ Cemi ojaxis wevrebisTvis,<br />

CemTvis umniSvnelovanesi adamianisTvis,<br />

romelic gverdiT midgas.<br />

bevrjer miTqvams: isini arian adamianebi,<br />

romlebisTvisac SemiZlia,<br />

sulic gaviRo da amaze erTi wuTi-<br />

Tac ar davfiqrde.<br />

ar menaneba arc erTi wamiT is<br />

dauRalavi Sroma, romelsac CemTvis<br />

Zalian mniSvnelovani da sayvareli<br />

saqmisTvis yoveldRiurad<br />

vakeTeb.<br />

_ ra aris yvelaze mniSvnelo-<br />

vani SenTvis saqmeSi?<br />

_ CemTvis am saqmeSi yvelaze metad<br />

mniSvnelovania pasuxismgeblobis<br />

grZnoba, imedebis gamarTleba,<br />

Sroma da drois, Cemi SesaZleblobebisa<br />

da resursebis maqsimalurad<br />

sworad gamoyeneba.<br />

_ ra aris yvelaze Rirebuli<br />

adamianSi?<br />

_ yvelaze Rirebuli adamianSi<br />

aris rwmena, imedi, optimizmi, mizanswrafuloba,<br />

riTac SeZlebs<br />

nebismieri dabrkolebis gadalaxvas<br />

da sakuTari survilebisa da<br />

ocnebebis asrulebas, agreTve<br />

Sromismoyvareoba, madliereba, pasuxismgeblobis<br />

grZnoba. TiToeul<br />

maTgans Zalian vafaseb adamianSi.<br />

_ gadawyvetileba, romelic<br />

ginania?<br />

_ ramdenad gasaocaric ar unda<br />

iyos, Cems cxovrebaSi ar arsebobs<br />

aseTi gadawyvetileba. yovelTvis<br />

vcdilobdi, Cemi cxovrebis man-<br />

Zilze gadamedga nabijebi, romelic<br />

Semdgom sananebeli ar gamixdeboda.<br />

axlac ase var.<br />

_ ra gaRizianebs yvelaze<br />

metad?<br />

_ maRizianebs im saqmis keTeba,<br />

romelic ar miyvars da misi keTebisgan<br />

siamovnebas ar viReb. maRizianebs,<br />

agreTve, pasiuri cxovreba,<br />

erTi da igive da momabezrebeli<br />

cxovrebis ritmi, maRizianebs<br />

uimedoba adamianebSi, yovelTvis<br />

yvelafriT ukmayofilo xalxi,<br />

umaduroba, arakeTilganwyoba da<br />

sxva mravali, Tundac wvrilmanebi,<br />

romlebic yoveldRiur cxovreba-<br />

Si gvxvdeba.<br />

_ risTvis ar genaneba dro?<br />

_ ar menaneba dro, romelic mizanmimarTulia<br />

swavlisken, pirovnuli<br />

ganviTarebisken, progresisken,<br />

winsvlisken, Sromisken. ar<br />

menaneba dro, romelsac sxva adamianebis<br />

daxmarebaSi davxarjav. aseve<br />

ar menaneba sakuTari Tavis movlisTvis<br />

daxarjuli dro.<br />

_ Tavisufal dros ras akeTeb<br />

xolme?<br />

36 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.


_ Tavisufal dros isev da isev<br />

vuTmob im saqmianobas, romelic<br />

miyvars da romliTac axla var<br />

dakavebuli. vcdilob, maqsimalurad<br />

ganvaviTaro da ganvaaxlo sakuTari<br />

SesaZleblobebi. miyvars<br />

sakuTar Tavze muSaoba, vswavlob<br />

da viTviseb yvelafers, rac moTxovnadi,<br />

trenduli, lamazi, gemovnebiani<br />

da daxvewilia. aseve miyvars<br />

wignebis kiTxva. miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom dro TiTqmis ar maqvs,<br />

vcdilob, mainc gamovnaxo ramdenime<br />

saaTi imisTvis, rac umniSvnelovanesia<br />

TiToeuli CvenganisTvis,<br />

miiRos sulieri gantvirTva,<br />

amavdroulad, isiamovnos am yvelafriT<br />

da bevri axali ram Seimecnos.<br />

_ maqsimalisti xar?<br />

_ SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva, rom<br />

maqsimalisti var. minda, nebismieri<br />

saqme, romelsac xels movkideb,<br />

idealurad da zedmiwevniT kargad<br />

Sevasrulo. es imdenad zis CemSi,<br />

rom SeuZlebelic ki mgonia, sxvanairad<br />

gavakeTo rame. Tundac<br />

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beli problemebi mougvarebeli da<br />

mouwesrigebelia. visurvebdi, Ti-<br />

Toeulma Cvenganma SevZloT da<br />

gavakeToT Cveni maqsimumi, raTa is<br />

qveyana, romelic amdeni sisxlis-<br />

Rvrisa da tanjvis Semdeg Cvenamde<br />

movida, ganviTardes da misaba-<br />

Zi, samagaliTo gaxdes mTeli msofliosTvis.<br />

saxelmwifom da mis saTaveSi<br />

mdgomma pirebma ki aucileblad<br />

yvela Cveni qveynis moqalaqes<br />

xeli unda Seuwyon amaSi. maTi<br />

roli didia TiToeuli Cvenganis<br />

cxovrebaSi.<br />

_ rogor SeiZleba am proble-<br />

mis mogvareba?<br />

_ aqcenti unda gakeTdes qveyanaSi<br />

arsebul mTavar problemebze<br />

da pirvel rigSi im sferoebs miexedos,<br />

romelic dRes Zalian aqtualuri<br />

da prioritetulia. sworad<br />

unda gadanawildes dafinansebebi<br />

ama Tu im sferoze, gamoiyos Tanxebi<br />

im saqmeebze, romelTa wesrig-<br />

Si moyvanac sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania<br />

Cveni qveynis winsvlisTvis.<br />

didi Sroma da investiciebia<br />

Casadebi, raTa ganviTarebuli qveyana<br />

gverqvas da amayad vatarebdeT<br />

am saxels msoflio masStabiT.<br />

_ rodis isveneb xolme da<br />

rogor?<br />

_ Cemi gantvirTvis saSualeba<br />

aris curva, gansakuTrebiT ki zafxulSi.<br />

auzze siaruli CemTvis<br />

rogorc fizikuri, aseve sulieri<br />

vis?<br />

_ Tavisufleba CemTvis aris,<br />

viyo Cemi Tavis „ufali”. gavakeTo<br />

is, rac minda, roca minda, rac Cemi<br />

azriT sworia da rac yvelaze mTavaria,<br />

veTanxmebi im Sexedulebas,<br />

rom adamianis Tavisufleba mTavrdeba<br />

iq, sadac iwyeba sxvisi.<br />

_ cxovrebis ra etapze xar<br />

axla?<br />

_ axla im etapze var, rodesac<br />

CemiT vcdilob yvelafris cxovrebaSi<br />

dalagebas. damoukideblobas,<br />

rac umniSvnelovanesia. axla davamTavre<br />

universiteti, ukve diplomic<br />

maqvs da, ra Tqma unda, vgegmav,<br />

rom paralelurad Cemi profesiiT<br />

vimuSao.<br />

_ kuTari Tavi napovni gaqvs?<br />

_ Tamamad SemiZlia vTqva, rom<br />

sakuTari Tavi vipove da amas mas<br />

Semdeg mivxvdi, rac makiaJis xelovneba<br />

daviwye. Tumca mgonia,<br />

rom kidev araerT sxva saqmeSi vipovi<br />

sakuTar Tavs da sakuTar<br />

SesaZleblobebs gamovcdi.<br />

_ rogor ggonia, adamianebs<br />

del saqarTveloSi?<br />

_ vfiqrob, rom maqvs.<br />

_ gaqvs iseTi principi, rasac<br />

ar uRalateb arasdros?<br />

_ ar vuRalateb adamians, romelic<br />

mendoba da romelsac Cemi<br />

sjera. ar davnebdebi da arasdros<br />

davyri far-xmals, raTa ar vuRalato<br />

da uari ar vTqva Cems ocnebebze.<br />

_ rom ara is, vinc axla xar, vin<br />

iqnebodi?<br />

_ magis warmodgena ar SemiZlia.<br />

_ da mainc, vin aris mariam Wum-<br />

buriZe?<br />

_ me var gogo CemTvis damaxasiaTebeli<br />

individualuri TvisebebiT,<br />

romelic ibrZvis naTeli momavlisTvis<br />

da kargi cxovrebisTvis.<br />

arasdros ityvis Tavis ocnebebze<br />

uars da gaakeTebs maqsimums,<br />

rom miiRos yvelaferi, rac<br />

cxovrebisgan surs.<br />

_ ra aris Seni samomavlo gegma?<br />

_ samomavlo gegmebi ukavSirdeba<br />

Cems amJamindel saqmianobas,<br />

amavdroulad, Cems profesias _<br />

makiaJis gakeTebis dros yvelafers<br />

kargad vakvirdebi, ar miyvars<br />

uzustoba da Seusabamoba, vudgebi<br />

maqsimaluri pasuxismgeblobiT<br />

da milimetruli sizustiT vcdilob<br />

yvelafris gakeTebas.<br />

_ ras gaZlevs yoveli axali<br />

gaTenebuli dRe?<br />

_ yoveli axali gaTenebuli dRe<br />

aris imedi, motivacia, stimuli,<br />

rom yvelaferi bevrad ufro kargad<br />

iqneba, vidre iyo wina dRes.<br />

_ raze ocnebob?<br />

_ vocnebob gamTlianebul da<br />

ganviTarebul saqarTveloze. vocnebob,<br />

rom yvela bavSvs hqondes<br />

bednieri bavSvoba da mosiyvarule<br />

ojaxi, ar naxon omi, gaWirveba da<br />

Sav-TeTri samyaro. vocnebob, rom<br />

samyaroSi mudam iyos mSvidoba.<br />

bevr rameze vocnebob...<br />

_ vin aris misabaZi magaliTi<br />

SenTvis? ratom?<br />

_ albaT, aravis gaukvirdeba,<br />

rom iseve rogorc umetesobisTvis,<br />

CemTvisac misabaZi magaliTi<br />

dedaCemia. Znelia upasuxo kiTxvas,<br />

_ ratom? imitom, rom imdeni ram<br />

maxsendeba erTianad Tu cal-calke,<br />

albaT, fizikurad verc davwer.<br />

ubralod, is CemTvis magali-<br />

Tia, rogorc qali, rogorc deda,<br />

rogorc meuRle, rogorc Svili<br />

da ase dausruleblad. arasdros<br />

yofila pesimisturad ganwyobili<br />

cxovrebis mimarT, romelmac bevr<br />

sirTules da dabrkolebas Seajaxa.<br />

yovelTvis cdilobs ise icxovros,<br />

rom Cven es gveamayebodes<br />

da gamosdis. CemTvis is Zlieri da<br />

Semdgari qalis idealia, Cemi magaliTi<br />

da Cemi siamaye, romelic<br />

mudam Cem gverdiT dgas da is rom<br />

ara, verafers mivaRwevdi da mivaRwev<br />

cxovrebaSi.<br />

_ dRes ra problemas xedav im<br />

sferoSi, sadac moRvaweob da,<br />

zogadad, saqarTveloSi?<br />

_ ara mxolod im sferoSi,<br />

romelTanac Sexeba mqonia, aramed<br />

yvela sferoSi vxedav problemas.<br />

saqarTveloSi yvelaferi mosawesrigebeli<br />

da gardasaqmnelia. pirvel<br />

rigSi, samuSao adgilebze minda<br />

gavakeTo aqcenti. Zalian bevri<br />

perspeqtiuli da ganaTlebuli axalgazrdaa,<br />

romelTac ar aqvT sa-<br />

Tanado xelSewyoba, rom yvelafris<br />

realizeba moaxdinon, wavidnen<br />

im gziT, romelic maT ainteresebT,<br />

ar aqvT saxsrebi da saSualeba,<br />

rom ganviTardnen da amasTanave,<br />

swavla gaagrZelon, an, ubralod,<br />

swavlasTan erTad imuSaon.<br />

dRevandeli mdgomareobiT, Zalian<br />

Znelia sakuTari profesiiT<br />

dasaqmeba, es ki im resursebis<br />

SezRudvasTanaa dakavSirebuli,<br />

rac kursdamTavrebulebs aqvT. ase<br />

dausruleblad SeiZleba am problemebze<br />

saubari, guli mwydeba,<br />

rom qveyanaSi mTavari da aucile-<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

`saqarTveloSi yvelaferi mosawesrigebeli da<br />

gardasaqmnelia. pirvel rigSi, samuSao<br />

adgilebze minda gavakeTo aqcenti. Zalian bevri<br />

perspeqtiuli da ganaTlebuli axalgazrdaa,<br />

romelTac ar aqvT saTanado xelSewyoba, rom<br />

yvelafris realizeba moaxdinon, wavidnen im<br />

gziT, romelic maT ainteresebT, ar aqvT<br />

saxsrebi da saSualeba, rom ganviTardnen da<br />

amasTanave, swavla gaagrZelon, an, ubralod,<br />

swavlasTan erTad imuSaon~<br />

gantvirTvis saSualebaa.<br />

_ vin genatreba yvelaze metad?<br />

_ maSin, roca sadme var wasuli,<br />

yvelaze metad menatreba Cemi ojaxis<br />

wevrebi.<br />

_ ra aris SenTvis is saqme,<br />

rasac akeTeb?<br />

_ es saqme CemTvis aris xelovneba.<br />

_ ra aris Tavisufleba SenT-<br />

TavianTi misia aqvT (Tu ki, ra<br />

aris Seni misia? Tu ara, _ ratom)?<br />

_ yvela adamians aqvs Tavisi misia.<br />

TiToeulma Cvenganma rom is<br />

saqme vakeToT, rac gviyvars da<br />

raSic vipoveT sakuTari Tavi, bevrad<br />

ukeTesad vicxovrebT, ukeTesi<br />

iqneba Cveni da Cveni qveynis momavali.<br />

yvelaferi imdenad jaWvur<br />

reaqciaSi erTmaneTTan, rom es wvrilmanebi,<br />

detalebi, patara Tu<br />

didi saqmeebi, erTi didi mTlianobaa<br />

da TiToeuli Cvenganis na-<br />

Tel da progresul cxovrebas emsaxureba.<br />

_ ra aris is, risTvisac ibrZ-<br />

vi?<br />

_ vibrZvi, rom viyo misabaZi,<br />

samagaliTo, saamayo Cemi ojaxisTvis,<br />

garSemomyofebisTvis, Cemi<br />

sayvareli adamianebisTvis, sruliad<br />

ucxo xalxisTvisac ki. vibrZvi<br />

Cemi survilebis asrulebisTvis,<br />

naTel da warmatebul qveyanaSi cxovrebisTvis<br />

da Cemi miznebis ganxorcielebisTvis.<br />

_ Seni neba rom iyos, ras Secvlidi<br />

an gamoasworebdi Sens cx-<br />

ovrebaSi an qveyanaSi zogadad?<br />

_ ganaTlebis sferos mivaqcevdi<br />

pirvel rigSi did yuradRebas.<br />

es aris warmatebuli cxovrebis<br />

garanti da dabandebuli investicia,<br />

romelic aucileblad win dagvxvdeba.<br />

aviRebdi magaliTs sxva ma-<br />

RalganviTarebuli qveynebisgan,<br />

maTi cxovrebis wesisgan. es sulac<br />

ar mimaCnia saTakilod, piriqiT.<br />

_ ra aris cxovrebis azri<br />

SenTvis?<br />

_ Cemi cxovrebis azri aris Cemi<br />

miznebisTvis brZola da warmatebis<br />

miRweva.<br />

_ rogor fiqrob, gaqvs Tu ara<br />

warmatebis miRwevis Sansi dRevan-<br />

sociologias. aucileblad vapireb<br />

am sferoSi dasaqmebas da<br />

rac Seexeba makiaJis xelovnebas,<br />

ubralod, ar SemiZlia mis gareSe.<br />

es aris Cemi kargad yofnisTvis aucilebeli<br />

winapiroba. minda, ufro<br />

metma adamianma gaigos Cem Sesaxeb<br />

da bevrad met adamians mivaniWo<br />

sixaruli imiT, rasac vakeTeb.<br />

_ raze fiqrob xolme yvelaze<br />

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ki lionel mesim, angariSi gaa-<br />

Tanabra.<br />

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74)<br />

mwvrTneli: zinedin zidani<br />

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Ci, pogba, lingardi (reSfordi 46),<br />

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golebi: 1:0 kazemiro (24), 2:0<br />

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13 agvisto. barselona. `kamp<br />

nou~. 90 000 mayurebeli<br />

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mwvrTneli: ernesto valverde<br />

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ramosi, marselo, kasemiro, kovaCiCi<br />

(asensio 68), kroosi, isko, beili<br />

(vaskesi 81), benzema (ronaldu 58).<br />

mwvrTneli: zinedin zidani<br />

golebi: 0:1 pike (50 s.k.), 1:1 mesi<br />

(77 pen.), 1:2 ronaldu (80), 1:3 asensio<br />

(90)<br />

gaZeveba: ronaldu (82)<br />

msaji: rikardo bengoeCea<br />

38<br />

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respublikis warmomadgeneli antferne pepini 41<br />

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oqros medals msoflios Cempionatzec daeufla.<br />

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da CrdiloeT koreis warmomadgenlebi daamarcxa.<br />

Cempionatis individualuri programis daskvniT<br />

saSejibro dRes, 12 agvistos, msoflios vice-Cempioni<br />

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gamarTa. finalamde man poloneli, brazilieli da<br />

tuniseli mowinaaRmdegeebi daamarcxa, finaluri<br />

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gaerTianebuli gundebiT gamarTul Cempionatze,<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebma brinjaos medlebisTvis brZolaSi<br />

germaniis gundi 4:3 daamarcxa.<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebis Ziudoistebma mervedfinalSi<br />

italias 6:2 sZlies, meoTxedfinalSi urTulesi<br />

Sexvedra mouges iaponias 4:4 (32:25 qulebiT), rodesac<br />

0:3 CamorCenis Semdeg SeZles wonasworobis aRdgena<br />

da gamarjveba, naxevarfinaluri dapirispireba<br />

ki momaval Cempion, ruseTis nakrebTan 2:6 daTmes.<br />

gundur SejibrSi saqarTvelos nakrebma aseTi SemadgenlobiT<br />

iaspareza: luka kapanaZe, mixeil baxbaxaSvili,<br />

vladimer axalkaci, aleqsi svianiZe, levan<br />

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sofio somxiSvili.<br />

gunduri Cempionatis finalSi, ruseTis nakrebma<br />

brazilia 5:3 daamarcxa, brinjaos medlebi ki, saqar-<br />

TvelosTan erTad, iaponiis nakrebmac moipova, iaponelebma<br />

saprizo adgilisTvis SexvedraSi uzbekeTs<br />

8:0 sZlies.<br />

jamSi, saqarTvelos Ziudos WabukTa nakrebma msoflios<br />

Cempionatze gamosvla 1 oqros, 2 vercxlisa<br />

da 2 brinjaos medliT daasrula. gundur Cempionat-<br />

Si monawileoba jamSi 18-ma nakrebma miiRo, individualur<br />

SejibrSi ki medlebisTvis msoflios 64 qveynis<br />

428 sportsmeni ibrZoda.<br />

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msoflios Cempionati TbilisSi<br />

Tbilisis meriis Tasis gaTa-<br />

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gundma miiRo monawileoba –<br />

prizisTvis erTmaneTs ebrZod-<br />

nen saqarTvelosa da CexeTis<br />

sakalaTburTo nakrebebi. gamar-<br />

jvebulis vinaoba ormatCian<br />

duelSi unda gamovleniliyo.<br />

pirveli Sexvedra saqarTvel-<br />

os nakrebma damajereblad, 87:76<br />

moigo. evropis Cempionatiswina<br />

mosamzadebel periodSi pirveli<br />

sanakrebo matCi Caatara Cvenma<br />

kapitanma zaza faCuliam, rome-<br />

lmac ormagi dubli gaiforma<br />

(14 qula, 11 moxsna, 8 pasi). mat-<br />

Cis yvelaze Sedegiani moTamaSe<br />

ki Tornike Sengelia iyo, romelmac<br />

22 qula, 7 moxsna da 4 ga-<br />

dacema Seasrula.<br />

pirveli matCisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />

meore SexvedraSi gamarjveba<br />

ufro gagviWirda. saqarTvelom<br />

mZimed, magram mainc moaxerxa<br />

mogeba (68:64) da mosamzadebel<br />

ciklSi 6 matCidan 5 gamarjveba<br />

aqvs. CexeTTan meore matCSic<br />

yvelaze Sedegiani Senge-<br />

lia iyo 17 quliT.<br />

es gaxldaT mimdinare cikl-<br />

Si Cveni nakrebis bolo matCi saqarTveloSi.<br />

ilias zurosis gundi<br />

22 agvistos saberZneTSi gaemgzavreba,<br />

sadac warmomadgenlobiT,<br />

„akropolisis Tasis“ ga-<br />

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da Semdeg, pirdapir evrobask-<br />

etze gaemgzavreba - israelSi.<br />

namatCevs priziori CexeTis<br />

nakrebi, aseve gamarjvebuli saq-<br />

arTvelo Tbilisis merma, daviT<br />

narmaniam, kalaTburTis federaciis<br />

prezidentma mixeil gabriCiZem<br />

da parlamentis spor-<br />

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is~ farglebSi evrobasket 2017-<br />

is Tasi saqarTveloSi ukve meored<br />

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asketis dawyebamde gaxldaT)<br />

imyofeba. matCis dawyebs win<br />

evropis saCempiono Tasi sportis<br />

sasaxleSi Sekrebil sazoga-<br />

doebas warudgines.<br />

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saqarTveloSi imyofeba turni-<br />

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8 agvistos TbilisSi msoflios<br />

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msoflios Cempionati daiwyo.<br />

dedaqalaqis axal sportis sasax-<br />

leSi matCebi erTdroulad or<br />

darbazSi mimdinareobs da mayurebeli<br />

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imis miuxedavad, rom Cempionatze<br />

daswreba ufasoa, gulSematkivar-<br />

Ta raodenoba didi ar aris. amis<br />

erT-erTi mizezi isaa, rom agvisto<br />

dgas da qalaqi xalxisgan daclilia.<br />

CvenTvis yvelaze sainte-<br />

reso, ra Tqma unda, saqarTvelos<br />

nakrebis gamosvlaa. bolo turis<br />

win beqa orjonikiZis gunds erTi<br />

gamarjveba da sami marcxi hqonda<br />

aqtivSi da CilesTan matCs unda<br />

gadaewyvita, gavagrZelebdiT Tu<br />

ara brZolas mervedfinalSi. rac<br />

Seexeba oTx sawyis Sexvedras, al-<br />

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sxvaobiT vZlieT, ris Semdegac<br />

iaponiasTan, islandiasa da ger-<br />

maniasTan uSansod davmarcxdiT.<br />

A jgufi<br />

safrangeTi, dania, SvedeTi, bahreini, egvipte,<br />

norvegia<br />

frangebs metoqeebze erTi TaviT Zlieri<br />

gundi hyavT da naadrevad gainaRdes ara mxolod<br />

mervedfinalSi gasvla, aramed jguf-<br />

Si pirvelobac. egvipte da daniac plei ofSi<br />

arian, mervedfinalis bolo sagzuris mopovebis<br />

Sanss ki guSindeli saRamosTvis norvegia,<br />

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B jgufi<br />

germania, islandia, saqarTvelo, Cile, iaponia,<br />

alJiri<br />

islandia da germania Tavidanve iyvnen Cveni<br />

jgufis gamokveTili favoritebi. maTi<br />

dramatuli urTierTSexvedra islandielTa<br />

erTburTiani gamarjvebiT dasrulda da eqvseulSi<br />

pirvelobac maT darCaT. maTTan er-<br />

Tad, mervedfinalSia iaponiac, bolo sapleifo<br />

sagzuri ki saqarTvelo-alJiri-Ciles<br />

trioSi gaTamaSda.<br />

C jgufi<br />

xorvatia, argentina, brazilia, portugalia,<br />

poloneTi, s. korea<br />

brazilia da argentina fexburTSi arian<br />

mrisxane saxelebi, Tbilisur msoflios CempionatSi<br />

ki jgufis autsaiderebad mogvevlinen.<br />

portugalia, samxreT korea, xorvatia, poloneTi<br />

– aseTi TanmimdevrobiT iyvnen bolo<br />

turis win ganlagebulebi momavali mervedfinalistebi.<br />

D jgufi<br />

slovenia, espaneTi, serbeTi, tunisi, ruse-<br />

Ti, meqsika<br />

espaneTma yvela matCi soliduri sxvaobiT<br />

moigo, meqsika ki mxolod jgufis ki ara, albaT,<br />

mTlianad Cempionatis usustesi gundi<br />

aRmoCnda. espaneTTan erTad plei ofSi tunisi,<br />

slovenia da ruseTi gavidnen.<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebis gafarToebul SemadgenlobaSi<br />

Sedian: sandro xandoliSvili<br />

(qariSxala), giorgi xaraiSvili (imedi, Telavi),<br />

giorgi vaTiaSvili (gori), xazein rustamovi<br />

(quTaisi), irakli kbilaSvili (quTaisi),<br />

giorgi dolmazaSvili (imedi, Telavi), zurab<br />

gogava (pegasi), gigi feraZe (qariSxala), zezva<br />

iobaSvili (imedi, Telavi), giga bainaziSvili,<br />

daviT yoriauli (imedi, Telavi), giorgi<br />

cxovrebaZe (pegasi), giorgi tieliZe (gori),<br />

luka bulbulaSvili (qariSxala), nikoloz<br />

bajalaZe (foTi), daviT niazaSvili (gori), giorgi<br />

miqava (imedi Telavi), erekle arsenaSvili<br />

(qariSxala), giorgi lapiaSvili (pegasi)<br />

mTavari mwvrTneli: beqa orjonikiZe<br />

mwvrTneli: andrei portnoi (ukraina)<br />

mekareebis mwvrTneli: amiran komaxiZe<br />

eqimi: jumber yaryaraSvili<br />

gundis ufrosi: vaxtang meifariani<br />

8 agvisto<br />

safrangeTi-bahreini 42:20<br />

dania-egvipte 28:28<br />

islandia-iaponia 26:24<br />

germania-Cile 39:22<br />

saqarTvelo-alJiri 28:24<br />

SvedeTi-norvegia 23:20<br />

xorvatia-portugalia 30:30<br />

argentina-poloneTi 22:26<br />

serbeTi-meqsika 29:18<br />

slovenia-tunisi 26:29<br />

espaneTi-ruseTi 32:20<br />

brazilia-s. korea 33:35<br />

9 agvisto<br />

Cile-islandia 22:27<br />

iaponia-saqarTvelo 30:22<br />

alJiri-germania 19:37<br />

tunisi-espaneTi 24:27<br />

meqsika-slovenia 19:32<br />

ruseTi-serbeTi 29:24<br />

10 agvisto<br />

bahreini-dania 35:31<br />

portugalia-argentina 30:28<br />

norvegia-safrangeTi 28:34<br />

s. korea-xorvatia 33:31<br />

egvipte-SvedeTi 26:24<br />

poloneTi-brazilia 29:25<br />

11 agvisto<br />

germania-iaponia 34:18<br />

Cile-alJiri 32:33<br />

bahreini-norvegia 23:39<br />

safrangeTi-egvipte 36:29<br />

dania-SvedeTi 29:26<br />

islandia-saqarTvelo 42:25<br />

slovenia-ruseTi 26:21<br />

espaneTi-serbeTi 29:28<br />

tunisi-meqsika 37:19<br />

xorvatia-poloneTi 33:28<br />

argentina-brazilia 17:22<br />

portugalia-s. korea 33:24<br />

12 agvisto<br />

islandia-alJiri 37:27<br />

saqarTvelo-germania 25:41<br />

iaponia-Cile 35:27<br />

espaneTi-meqsika 33:18<br />

serbeTi-slovenia 23:36<br />

ruseTi-tunisi 30:31<br />

13 agvisto<br />

dania-norvegia 33:20<br />

argentina-s. korea 27:44<br />

SvedeTi-safrangeTi 21:29<br />

brazilia-xorvatia 24:40<br />

egvipte-bahreini 37:25<br />

poloneTi-portugalia 22:24<br />

14 agvisto<br />

iaponia-alJiri 29:21<br />

germania-islandia 27:28<br />

safrangeTi-dania 35:26<br />

ruseTi-meqsika 32:14<br />

serbeTi-tunisi 27:37<br />

slovenia-espaneTi 22:30<br />

norvegia-egvipte 22:30<br />

saqarTvelo-Cile 24:29<br />

poloneTi-s. korea 28:38<br />

brazilia-portugalia 27:26<br />

SvedeTi-bahreini 28:20<br />

xorvatia-argentina 31:19<br />

15 agvisto: dasvenebis dRe<br />

16 agvisto: mervedfinali da prezidentis<br />

Tasi 17-24 adgilebisTvis<br />

17 agvisto: meoTxedfinali da matCebi 9-24<br />

adgilebisTvis<br />

18 agvisto: dasvenebis dRe<br />

19 agvisto: naxevarfinali, 1-4, 5-8 adgilebi.<br />

N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.<br />

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darbazi 1 21:15 13-14 l.<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

darbazi 3 16:15 10-11 l.<br />

IMAX 17:00 19 l.<br />

darbazi 3 GEO 19:15 13-14 l.<br />

IMAX 19:45 19 l.<br />

darbazi 4 OV 21:45 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 3 22:15 13-14 l.<br />

IMAX 22:30 19 l.<br />

kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 5 GEO 13:30 9-10 l.<br />

darbazi 1 16:15 10-11 l.<br />

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darbazi 1 19:15 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 1 GEO 22:15 13-14 l.<br />

rusTaveli<br />

darbazi 1 GEO 16:30 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 1 GEO 19:30 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 3 OV 19:30 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 5 22:30 13-14 l.<br />

anabelis wyevla:<br />

dasawyisi<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

darbazi 6 14:45 9-10 l.<br />

darbazi 2 16:30 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 2 19:15 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 2 22:00 13-14 l.<br />

kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 3 16:50 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 2 19:30 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 2 21:55 13-14 l.<br />

rusTaveli<br />

darbazi 5 17:30 11-12 l.<br />

darbazi 5 20:00 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 1 22:30 13-14 l.<br />

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18.<br />

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31.<br />

danayili<br />

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33. mc.<br />

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holiani<br />

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nawar-<br />

moebis<br />

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36.<br />

sanele-<br />

beli<br />

19. samx.<br />

afrikis<br />

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beli<br />

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erovnuli<br />

valuta<br />

13.<br />

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20.lurji<br />

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reba<br />

22.<br />

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brivi<br />

movlena<br />

25.<br />

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34.<br />

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10.Zvirfasbe-<br />

wviani<br />

cxoveli<br />

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gadeobis<br />

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nawili<br />

8.sacxo-<br />

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nageboba<br />

14.spilen-<br />

15.<br />

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aluminis<br />

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sadeni<br />

11.<br />

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17.usasy-<br />

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vinmeze<br />

24.<br />

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menti<br />

27.mkv-<br />

dari<br />

cxovelis<br />

sxeuli<br />

afiSa<br />

bneli koSki<br />

amirani<br />

darbazi 3 16:45 10-11 l.<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

darbazi 7 OV 16:30 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 6 17:15 11-12 l.<br />

darbazi 8 20:00 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 8 22:30 13-14 l.<br />

kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 4 17:00 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 3 19:15 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 2 21:45 13-14 l.<br />

rusTaveli<br />

darbazi 2 17:00 11-12 l.<br />

darbazi 2 20:00 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 4 22:00 13-14 l.<br />

1 aSS dolari<br />

2.3895<br />

1 evro<br />

2.8191<br />

1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />

3.0997<br />

1 Sveicaruli franki<br />

2.4665<br />

100 rusuli rubli<br />

3.9964<br />

wina nomris<br />

skanvordis pasuxebi:<br />

pirveli suraTi - vaxtang gorgasli;<br />

meore suraTi - daviT aRmaSenebli; 1.<br />

do; 2. daTvi; 3. krivi; 4. abeli; 5.<br />

vegetarianeli; 6. religia; 7. mSenebeli;<br />

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otia; 13. vermaxti; 14. marTlmadidebeli;<br />

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xumroba; 19. enisei; 20. ludi; 21. ali; 22.<br />

Tora; 23. cudi; 24. audi; 25. norma; 26.<br />

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38. aloe; 39. iodi.<br />

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xuTSabaTi<br />

paraskevi<br />

SabaTi<br />

kvira<br />

orSabaTi<br />

Tbilisi<br />

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29-33 0<br />

26-30 0<br />

31-33 0<br />

30-33 0<br />

31-34 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

quTaisi<br />

28-30 0<br />

33-35 0<br />

31-33 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

28-30 0<br />

33-36 0<br />

34-36 0<br />

baTumi<br />

28-31 0<br />

29-33 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

31-32 0<br />

29-33 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

31-33 0<br />

zugdidi<br />

29-32 0<br />

32-35 0<br />

33-36 0<br />

30-33 0<br />

28-30 0<br />

34-37 0<br />

35-38 0<br />

gori<br />

28-30 0<br />

29-31 0<br />

24-27 0<br />

28-30 0<br />

29-31 0<br />

27-30 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

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31-33 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

23-26 0<br />

29-31 0<br />

31-33 0<br />

30-32 0<br />

29-31 0<br />

foTi<br />

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29-32 0<br />

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