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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

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yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

amerikelebisa<br />

da ivaniSvilis<br />

faruli<br />

molaparakebebi<br />

gv. 4<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05<br />

05.201<br />

.2019 fasi 2 lari<br />

gv. 6<br />

skandaluri<br />

finansuri<br />

piramida da<br />

`evrokreditis~<br />

saqme<br />

miTebi ruseTis mier<br />

strategiuli obieqtebis<br />

dapatronebaze<br />

uCa mamacaSvilis<br />

araformaluri gavlenebi<br />

gv. 2<br />

gv. 16<br />

`organoebSi<br />

momuSaveebisgan<br />

xma gamovida,<br />

rom gogaSvili<br />

`kriSavda~<br />

`pijakebis<br />

saqmis~ morigi<br />

procesi<br />

gv. 7<br />

ratom ar<br />

miiwvies<br />

saqarTvelo<br />

ankaris<br />

Sexvedraze?<br />

Svilmokluli dedis werili<br />

gv. 22<br />

gv. 10<br />

zaal<br />

samadaSvili:<br />

`ocnebis~<br />

arsenalSi<br />

Zaladobis meti<br />

iaraRi ar aris!~<br />

N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />

gv. 8<br />

nino burjanaZe:<br />

`dResve rom<br />

migviRon<br />

evrokavSirSi,<br />

orive xeliT<br />

mivesalmebi~<br />

gv. 20<br />

nika CitaZe:<br />

`xelisufleba<br />

arCevnebis<br />

mosagebad<br />

yvelafers<br />

kadrulobda~<br />

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eliso kilaZe<br />

599 17 12 12<br />

gasul kviras, politikuri or-<br />

omtrialisa da arCevnebis fonze, erTi mniSvnelovani ambavi<br />

mediisa da sazogadoebis yuradRebis miRma darCa. Cveni qvey-<br />

nisTvis strategiulad mniSvnelovan _ yarsi-axalqalaqis<br />

rkinigzis proeqtis Sesaxeb ankaraSi erTmaneTs Sexvdnen az-<br />

erbaijanis, TurqeTisa da ruseTis transportis ministrebi<br />

da urTierTgagebis memorandums moaweres xeli. Sexvedraze<br />

qarTuli mxare miwveuli ar yofila.<br />

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baqo-Tbilisi-yarsi novorosiiskis<br />

rkinigzis alternatiuli<br />

marSrutia da mas, ekonomikurTan<br />

erTad, Cveni qveynis-<br />

Tvis didi politikuri datvirTva<br />

aqvs. SeTanxmebas 2007<br />

wels moewera xeli. proeqtSi<br />

saqarTvelo marabda-karwaxis<br />

monakveTiT aris warmodgenili.<br />

ra xdeba marabda-karwaxis<br />

rkinigzis monakveTze?<br />

masalebi, romelsac axla<br />

gTavazobT, ramdenime Tvis win<br />

mogvawoda konfidencialurma<br />

wyarom, magram imdenad daZabuli<br />

politikuri da ekonomikuri<br />

movlenebi mihyva erTmaneTs, am<br />

dromde misi gasajaroeba ver<br />

movaxerxeT.<br />

marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis<br />

monakveTis sigrZe 182 kilometria,<br />

igi marabdaSi iwyeba da bolo<br />

wertili axalqalaqia. rkinigzis<br />

am monakveTis reabilitacia,<br />

rekonstruqcia da mSenebloba<br />

650 milioni dolari jdeba.<br />

marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis<br />

sarkinigzo monakveTis teqnikuri<br />

simZlavre, davalebis Tanaxmad,<br />

sawyis etapze ganisazRvra<br />

5 milioni tona tvirTis<br />

gatarebaze weliwadSi. imis ga-<br />

TvaliswinebiT, rom zRvis donidan<br />

1400-2183 metr simaRleze<br />

gamavali sarkinigzo monakveTi,<br />

romelic miekuTvneba samTo<br />

rkinigzas, xasiTdeba rTuli sainJinro<br />

topografiuli geologiuri<br />

da mkacri klimaturi<br />

pirobebiT (35% qanobebia), obieqtis<br />

eqsploataciaSi gadacemis<br />

Semdgom gansakuTrebuli<br />

yuradReba unda daeTmos matarebelTa<br />

moZraobis usafrTxoebas.<br />

specialistebis azriT,<br />

garemo pirobebis zemoqmedebis<br />

aRmofxvris mizniT proeqtiT<br />

gaTvaliswinebulia ramdenime<br />

mimarTuleba, magram, specialistebis<br />

azriT, es sakmarisi ar<br />

aris da srulad ver gamoricxavs<br />

mosalodnel SesaZlo safr-<br />

Txeebs.<br />

ufro konkretulad:<br />

TrialeTisa da walkis sarkinigzo<br />

sadgurebSi ar aris gansazRvruli<br />

damWeri bazebis<br />

mowyoba, romelTa arqonac pirdapir<br />

safrTxes uqmnis matareblebis<br />

usafrTxo moZraobas<br />

da xazis gamtarobas. gaWianurebuli<br />

daRmarTebis pirobebSi<br />

ubnis sadgurebSi SeuZlebelia<br />

Semxvedri matareblebis erTdrouli<br />

miReba, rac pirdapir<br />

kavSirSia ubnis gamtarobis SemcirebasTan<br />

35%-mde, anu 5 milioni<br />

tonis nacvlad wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

SesaZlebeli iqneba<br />

mxolod 3,4 milion tonamde<br />

tvirTis gadazidva.<br />

winwyaros, WivWavis, nadarbazevis,<br />

walkisa da TrialeTis<br />

sarkinigzo sadgurebSi unda<br />

gakeTdes kenti saisro yeli.<br />

proeqtSi gaTvaliswinebuli<br />

ar aris agreTve e. w. moxsnis<br />

koeficientebi, rogorciaa matuCa<br />

mamacaSvilis<br />

arebelTa mosvlis uTanabroba,<br />

carieli vagonnakadebi, klimaturi<br />

pirobebi da sxv.<br />

proeqtis ganxilvis dros<br />

ukrainaSi damproeqtebelma<br />

proeqtirebis dros daSvebuli<br />

teqnikuri xarvezebi aRiara da<br />

miRweul iqna SeTanxmeba, rom<br />

damatebiT unda Seiswavlon<br />

proeqtis teqnikuri parametrebi.<br />

magram, sabolood, rekonstruqcia<br />

ise gagrZelda, am<br />

Temas aravin dabrunebia.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom Sps<br />

„marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis”<br />

sarkinigzo monakveTis reabilitacia-rekonstruqcia<br />

da mSenebloba<br />

dasrulebulia, igi ar<br />

aris eqspluataciaSi Sesuli da<br />

saqarTvelos rkinigzas balansze<br />

ayvanili ar aqvs. azerbaijanis<br />

respublikidan TurqeTis<br />

respublikis mimarTulebiT konteinerebiT<br />

datvirTuli matarebeli<br />

dRegamoSvebiT gadahyavT<br />

Ramis saaTebSi. dauzustebeli<br />

informaciiT, es kontrabanduli<br />

tvirTebia. zemoaRniSnul<br />

sarkinigzo monakveTze satvirTo<br />

matareblis gadayvanis<br />

momsaxurebis dafinansebaze pasuxismgebelia<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

rkinigzis komerciuli samsaxuris<br />

Svilobili kompania. rogorc<br />

„qronika+~-isTvis gaxda<br />

cnobili, kompaniis direqtori<br />

piradi gancxadebis safuZvelze<br />

gaaTavisufles dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan.<br />

ucnobia, vin afinansebs<br />

am kompanias, ucnobia<br />

aseve tvirTebis mepatronisa da<br />

gadamzidavi firmis saxelwodeba.<br />

dauzustebeli informaciiT,<br />

kompaniebi ekuTvnis saqarTvelosa<br />

da azerbaijanis moqalaqeebs.<br />

Sps „saqarTvelos rkinigzis”<br />

xelmZRvaneloba satvirTo matareblis<br />

usafrTxo moZraobis<br />

uzrunvelyofis pasuxismgeblobas<br />

iRebs mxolod sadgur cxramuxamde,<br />

xolo sadgur axalqalaqamde<br />

usafrTxo moZraobis<br />

pasuxismgeblobas iRebs daxuruli<br />

saaqcio sazogadoeba. azerbaijanis<br />

rkinigzis saqarTvelos<br />

filialis direqtori gaxlavT<br />

adaliaT bagirovi, misi<br />

moadgilea jamil gasimovi.<br />

sadgur axalqalaqSi tvirTebis<br />

miReba da gaSveba TurqeTis<br />

mimarTulebiT davalebuli aqvs<br />

saaqcio sazogadoeba azerbaijanis<br />

rkinigzis saqarTvelos<br />

filialis direqtoris warmomadgenel<br />

giorgi badalaSvils.<br />

imis gamo, rom TurqeTis respublikis<br />

sadgur yarsidan saqarTvelos<br />

respublikis rkinigzis<br />

sadgur axalqalaqamde dagebulia<br />

rkinigzis viwro liandagi<br />

evropuli standartebiT,<br />

sadac liandagis sigane aris<br />

1435 mm, xolo danarCen saqarTveloSi<br />

liandagi dagebulia sabWoTa<br />

standartebiT, anu liandagis<br />

sigane aris 1520 mm, amitom<br />

rkinigzis sadgur axalqal-<br />

`ratom ar miiwvies<br />

saqarTvelo ankaris<br />

Sexvedraze?<br />

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aqSi xdeba gorgolaWebis gamocvla.<br />

TurqeTis rkinigzis xelmZRvanels<br />

nebismier dros<br />

SeuZlia matareblis Semoyvana<br />

daukiTxavad, SekiTxva gvaqvs<br />

damproeqtebel Tornike kupataZesTan,<br />

_ visi davalebiT<br />

daaproeqta liandagi evropuli<br />

standartiT saqarTvelos teritoriaze<br />

axalqalaqidan yarsamde?<br />

da ratom aris teqnikuri<br />

Seusabamoba rkinigzis sxva<br />

monakveTTan?<br />

marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis<br />

sarkinigzo monakveTze, romlis<br />

teqnikuri simZlavre davalebis<br />

mixedviT, sawyis etapze, ganisazRvra<br />

5 milioni tona tvir-<br />

Tis gatarebaze weliwadSi, axali<br />

gaangariSebiT wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

mxolod 3,4 milioni<br />

tona tvirTis gatarebaa Sesa-<br />

Zlebeli. sainteresoa, vin gaayalba<br />

damtkicebuli proeqtis<br />

saeqsperto daskvna? yvela gza<br />

teqnikur universitetSi midis.<br />

swored aRniSnuli sakiTxebis<br />

Sesaswavlad iyo mivlinebuli<br />

ukrainaSi ufrosi specialisti<br />

guram kaJaSvili, magram saboloo<br />

Sedegi rac miviReT, am cifrebidanac<br />

Cans.<br />

marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis<br />

direqtori oleg biWiaSvili<br />

giorgi kvirikaSvilis kadri da<br />

misi axlo megobaria, aseve aris<br />

deputat irakli tripolskis<br />

axlobelic. miuxedavad amisa,<br />

2017 wlis agvistoSi biWiaSvili<br />

Tanamdebobidan gadaayenes. pirveli<br />

mizezi is iyo, rom biWia-<br />

Svils kvirikaSvilTan megobroba<br />

ar apaties. meore mizezi finansebs<br />

ukavSirdeba _ azerbaijanuli<br />

kompaniebi, romlebic<br />

marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis sareabilitacio<br />

samuSaoebs awarmoebdnen<br />

(kerZod, Sps „demiriodservisi”,<br />

Sps „azersaaTservisi”<br />

da ss „azeriorservisi”),<br />

saqarTvelos filialis direqtori<br />

alaliaT bagirovi winaswar<br />

iTxovda Seusrulebeli samuSaos<br />

avanss, romelic 3 milion<br />

dolars Seadgens, uariT<br />

gaistumra, amitom azerbaijanuli<br />

mxaris moTxovnis Semdeg,<br />

uCa mamacaSvilis davalebiT, bi-<br />

WiaSvili Tanamdebobidan gadaayenes.<br />

biWiaSvili levan kankavam<br />

Secvala, romelic manamde<br />

biWiaSvilis pirveli moadgile<br />

iyo. „qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />

kankavas korufciuli<br />

garigebebi dalagebuli<br />

hqonda azerbaijanul mxares-<br />

Tan, kerZod ismail salikovTan.<br />

baTumSi, Tbilissa da gudaur-<br />

Si maT erTad SeiZines sastumroebi<br />

da restornebi („qronika+”<br />

agrZelebs am faqtebis mo-<br />

Ziebas).<br />

„qronika+~-s konfidencialurma<br />

wyarom marabda-karwaxis<br />

araformaluri gavlenebi<br />

TanamSromelTa samsaxurebrivi<br />

telefonebis cnobari miawoda.<br />

cnobarSi araerTi saintereso<br />

gvari SegxvdebaT.<br />

rogorc irkveva, direqtoris<br />

mrCevlis postze dasaqmebulia<br />

rkinigzis yofili Sefi<br />

remi vaSakiZe; direqtoris mrCevelia<br />

odeeri mamuka gelaSvili;<br />

sameTvalyureo sabWos Tavmjdomare<br />

„qarTus” yofili xelmZRvaneli<br />

da ivaniSvilis mier<br />

vano merabiSvilis agentad<br />

gamocxadebuli giorgi Crdilelia;<br />

sameTvalyureo sabWos<br />

wevria daviT saganeliZis Zma<br />

gia saganeliZe; garemos dacvis<br />

koordinatori, cixis yofili<br />

zonderi giorgi CxikvaZea (sainteresoa,<br />

icis Tu ara misi arseboba<br />

daCi caguriam?); sazogadoebasTan<br />

urTierTobis samsaxuris<br />

specialistad armaz<br />

sanebliZe hyavT gaformebuli.<br />

rogorc Cans, marabda-karwaxis<br />

rkinigza uCa mamacaSvilis<br />

naTesavebisa da nacnob-megobrebis<br />

dasaqmebis biuro ufroa,<br />

vidre qveynisTvis strategiuli<br />

da saerTaSoriso proeqti.<br />

uCa mamacaSvilis dasaqmebuli<br />

axloblebis arasruli sia<br />

ase gamoiyureba:<br />

malxaz maWaraSvili _ monitoringis<br />

jgufis wevri, biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis deidaSvili;<br />

nodar SovnaZe _ mSeneblobis<br />

sammarTvelos specialisti, bi-<br />

Zina ivaniSvilis kurseli;<br />

SoTa guliaSvili _ uCa mamacaSvilis<br />

naTluli (specialisti<br />

elmomaragebis sammarTveloSi);<br />

SoTa guliaSvilis mama _<br />

WiaTuris raionis sof. kacxSi<br />

mamacaSvilis mamulis zedamxedveli,<br />

daraji da momvlelia;<br />

avTandil xizaniSvili _<br />

mZRoli, qvemo qarTlis gubernatoris<br />

Zma, amJamad misi Zma<br />

saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />

samsaxuris ufrosis moadgilea;<br />

vladimer xatulaSvili _<br />

monitoringis samsaxuris wevri,<br />

yazbegis raionis yofil deputat<br />

marsagiSvilis siZe;<br />

giorgi CxikvaZe _ garemos<br />

dacvis koordinatori, yofili<br />

zonderi, rusTavis meeqvse sapyrobilis<br />

yofili TanamSromeli,<br />

samsaxurSi iSviaTad dadis,<br />

ZiriTadad, ucxoeTidan gasayidi<br />

avtomanqanebis Camoyvanaze<br />

muSaobs;<br />

giorgi leJava _ monitoringis<br />

jgufis wevri, marabdakarwaxis<br />

rkinigzis direqtor<br />

levan kankavas deidaSvili, iRebs<br />

mxolod xelfass, samsaxur-<br />

Si dadis dRegamoSvebiT, agvarebs<br />

korufciul sakiTxebs,<br />

aSantaJebs TanamSromlebs;<br />

aleqsandre wivwivaZe _ iuridiuli<br />

samsaxuris ufrosi,<br />

kankavas axlobeli;<br />

goCa CageliSvili _ safinanso<br />

ekonomikuri departamentis<br />

ufrosi, kankavas axlobeli;<br />

badri gunia _ Sesyidvebis<br />

ufrosi, kankavas axlobeli;<br />

biZina gujabiZe _ direqtoris<br />

mrCeveli, samsaxurSi, faqtobrivad,<br />

ar dadis, xelfass,<br />

realurad, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

koordinatorobisTvis iRebs.<br />

es im korufciuli sqemebisa<br />

da nepotizmis mxolod nawilia,<br />

rac xdeba didi strategiuli<br />

proeqtis _ yarsi-axalqalaqis<br />

rkinigzis erT monakveTze _<br />

marabda-karwaxSi. amis mere gasakviri<br />

sulac araa, rom azerbaijanuli<br />

da Turquli mxare<br />

qarTul mxares ankaraSi Sexvedraze<br />

saerTod ar iwvevs.<br />

„qronika+~-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />

am monakveTze, Ziri-<br />

Tadad, kontrabanduli tvirTi<br />

moZraobs, romelsac saqarTvelos<br />

saxelmwifo organoebi saerTod<br />

ar akontroleben. Cveni<br />

wyaro gvpirdeba, rom faqtis<br />

damadasturebel videomasalas<br />

uaxloes momavalSi mogvawvdis.<br />

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amerikelebisa da ivaniSvilis<br />

90-iani wlebidan moyolebuli<br />

giorgi abaSiZe<br />

qarTuli politikis aqilevsis qus-<br />

li marTlmsajulebaa, anu lamis 30<br />

welia, adamianebs usamarTlobis gancda aqvT da ician, rom<br />

saqarTveloSi samarTali purs ver Wams. amitomac yvela poli-<br />

tikuri Zala eleqtoratis gulis mogebas am TemiT cdilobs<br />

da xalxs hpirdeba, rom Tu xelisuflebaSi mova, samarTlian<br />

sasamarTlos Seqmnis. ase iyo maSin, roca „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />

„vardebis revolucias” awyobda. igive narativiT moqmedeb-<br />

da „qarTuli ocneba” 2012 wlis saarCevno kampaniis dros, Tumca<br />

es dapireba dapirebad darCa. metic, „ocnebis” CamoSlis sababi<br />

usamarTlo marTlmsajuleba, e. i., is sistema gaxda, romlis<br />

erT-erT mTavar Semqmneladac giga bokeria miiCneva.<br />

iuristi da politikosi vale-<br />

ri gelbaxiani „qronika+”-Tan im<br />

ambebs eqskluziurad ixsenebs, Tu<br />

rogor moipova giga bokeriam sas-<br />

amarTlo korpusze gavlena da<br />

rogor moargo kanonebi Tavis<br />

politikur gegmebs.<br />

amave interviuSi batoni vale-<br />

ri dRevandel procesebsac exeba<br />

da erT ritorikul kiTxvas svams,<br />

anu ainteresebs, Sedga Tu ara<br />

„ocnebasTan” politikuri garigeba,<br />

rogor moxda, rom giga boke-<br />

ria, romelic 2013 wels „ocnebam”<br />

uSiSroebis sabWodan 40 milionis<br />

gaflangvaSi amxila, pasuxismge-<br />

blobis gareSe darCa?<br />

maS, ase: „qronika+” yofili<br />

deputatis skandalur monaTxrobs<br />

warmogidgenT da winamde-<br />

bare interviudan imis Sesaxebac<br />

SeityobT, Tu ra ultimatums<br />

uyenebs ivaniSvili amerikelebs:<br />

_ batono valeri, gadaWarbe-<br />

buli ar iqneba, Tu vityvi, rom<br />

wlevandeli gazafxuli poli-<br />

tikurad zomaze cxeli aRmoCnda.<br />

_ mxedvelobaSi Sualeduri<br />

arCevnebi gaqvT?<br />

_ diax. amasTan, am dReebSi<br />

„rusTavi 2-is” dakveTiT, kompania<br />

„ipsosis” mier Catarebuli kvlevis<br />

Sedegebic gasajarovda, rom-<br />

lis Tanaxmadac, im brZen kacs,<br />

Turme, mosaxloebis Warbi ndoba<br />

aRar aqvs. amave kvleviT, mosaxle-<br />

obis absoluturi umravlesoba<br />

imedovnebs, rom 2020 wlis sapar-<br />

lamento arCevnebSi opozicia<br />

gaimarjvebs. yvelaferi es poli-<br />

tikur temperaturas xom maRla<br />

swevs?<br />

_ „qarTulma ocnebam” es kvleva<br />

marCielobad Seafasa, Tumca, Tavis<br />

droze, roca saubari sasamarTlos<br />

reitingze iyo, organizacias,<br />

romelmac es kvleva Caatara, biZina<br />

ivaniSvili endoboda. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />

maSin Tqva, es franguli<br />

kompania msoflios sameulSi Sedis<br />

da mas vendobio. mokled, maSin dasWirda<br />

da am kompanias ndoba gamoucxada,<br />

magram radgan axla kvlevis<br />

Sedegebi ar moewonaT, ivaniSvilis<br />

Tanagundelebi amboben, ra<br />

kvleva, yvelaferi mogoniliao.<br />

_ es metyvelebs, rom „ocneba”<br />

politikur agoniaSia Tu komaSi?<br />

_ erTaderTi, rac „ocnebas”<br />

darCa, es Zalaa. sxva resursi mas<br />

ar gaaCnia. amitom dRes opoziciis<br />

winaaRmdeg „qarTuli ocneba”, rogorc<br />

politikuri partia ki ara,<br />

rogorc saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />

gamodis Tavisi yvela struqturiT.<br />

es Zalian saSiSi niSnis matarebeli<br />

movlenaa.<br />

_ ratom?<br />

_ es samoqalaqo dapirispirebis<br />

niSnebs atarebs, radgan politikur<br />

procesebSi politikuri sub-<br />

ieqtebi ki ara, xelisufleba monawileobs.<br />

aviRoT, magaliTad, zugdidis<br />

meris Sualeduri arCevnebi<br />

_ iq sussa da Sss-s ra undodaT?<br />

ai, es aris niSani, rom Sualedur<br />

arCevnebSi „qarTuli ocneba” ki<br />

ara, rogorc giTxariT, xelisufleba<br />

monawileobda!<br />

_ Sesabamisad, 19 maisi Semdeg<br />

politikur procesebs gan-<br />

sazRvravs, ara?<br />

_ ai, naxeT, ra xdeba: mec, rogorc<br />

moqalaqe, vfiqrob, rom roca<br />

xelisufleba gebrZvis da ara _<br />

mmarTveli partia politikuri<br />

wesebiTa da konkurenciiT, am<br />

dros kanoni ki ara, ukve Zaladoba<br />

batonobs. Sesabamisad, aseT dros<br />

saarCevno procedurebis adgili<br />

aRar aris.<br />

urcxvad gamodian da amboben,<br />

aba, kanonis darRveva sad naxeTo.<br />

arada, arsebobs euTos daskvna.<br />

amas garda, kvlevebic arsebobs,<br />

magram „ocneba” yvelafers ignorirebas<br />

ukeTebs, me var da Cemi nabadi,<br />

rogorc minda, ise moviqcevi<br />

da rasac minda, imas davwer, Tqven<br />

vin gekiTxebaTo. es samoqalaqo sazogadoeba<br />

ar aris da aq demokratiul<br />

niSnebze saubaric ukve<br />

Zalian zedmetia!<br />

samwuxaroa, rom yvelaferi es<br />

Cven Tvalwin xdeba da isic samwuxaroa,<br />

rom xelisufleba urcxvad<br />

ityueba, urcxvad saxeSi gvafur-<br />

Txebs da kamerebis winac urcxvad<br />

keklucobs. sinamdvileSi ki saziz-<br />

Rar kanondarRvevebs udebs saTaves.<br />

warmoidgineT, Jurnalists<br />

Tavs daesxnen, scemes da pasuxisgebaSi<br />

isev Jurnalisti misces. amaze<br />

meti marazmi raRa SeiZleba iyos?<br />

_ „odiSis” JurnalistisTvis<br />

bralis wayeneba, marTlac, moulod<br />

odneli iyo. ise, batono valeri,<br />

Tqveni ar vici, piradad me ki, am<br />

procesebis Semxedvares, „vardebis<br />

revoluciis” wina periodi maxsendeba<br />

_ SevardnaZis xelisu-<br />

flebasac, „ocnebis” msgavsad, ca<br />

qudad aRar miaCnda da dedamiwa<br />

_ qalamnad.<br />

_ „vardebis revolucia” SemTxveviTi<br />

revolucia iyo.<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ maSin mosaxleoba amisTvis<br />

mzad ar iyo. axla ki sazogadoeba-<br />

Si ukve didi samzadisia, radgan xalxi<br />

xvdeba, rom kanoniT ramis gadawyveta<br />

ar SeiZleba da amitom Zala<br />

unda aCveno. xelisufleba moedanze<br />

gepatiJeba, modi Senc da Zalebi<br />

movsinjoTo. imis nacvlad,<br />

rom politikuri stabilurobisTvis<br />

yvela pirobas qmnides, xelisufleba<br />

dapirispirebaSi giTrevs da<br />

ginda Tu ara, am dapirispirebaSi<br />

aRmoCndebi!<br />

_ batoni valeri, weRan sasamarTlo<br />

axseneT. marto dRevan-<br />

deli ki ara, yofili xelisu-<br />

flebisTvisac aqilevsis qusli<br />

swored sasamarTlo sistema iyo.<br />

Tu ar vcdebi, Tavis droze mixeil<br />

saakaSvilma sasamarTlos re-<br />

formireba Tqven dagavalaT Tu<br />

gTxovaT, Tumca Semdeg am procesSi<br />

giga bokeria Caeria da yve-<br />

laferi Tavdayira dadga. ase iyo?<br />

_ diax, ase iyo _ SeTanxmebulebi<br />

viyaviT, rom es reforma me unda<br />

gamekeTebina, magram bokeriam yvelaferi<br />

CaSala. Cvens Soris konfliqti<br />

moxda da amis gamo erTmaneTs<br />

davcildiT.<br />

_ modiT, yvelafer amaze ufro<br />

detalurad gviambeT<br />

_ es ambebi 2005 wels xdeboda.<br />

maSin ori reformis inicireba gavakeTe.<br />

erTi e. w. politikur-konstituciuri<br />

reforma iyo, romlis<br />

Tanaxmadac, saqarTvelos parlamenti<br />

orpalatiani unda gamxdariyo.<br />

amisTvis viTxovdi, rom orpalatiani<br />

parlamentis Seqmnis Taobaze<br />

konstituciuri kanoni migve-<br />

Ro, anu qveda palata proporciuli<br />

wesiT arCeuliyo, senati ki _<br />

valeri gelbaxiani<br />

`ocneba~ yvelafers<br />

ignorirebas<br />

ukeTebs, me var da<br />

Cemi nabadi,<br />

rogorc minda, ise<br />

moviqcevi da rasac<br />

minda, imas davwer,<br />

Tqven vin<br />

gekiTxebaTo~<br />

maJoritaruli. amiT im demokratiuli<br />

wonasworobis balansi Seiqmneboda,<br />

rasac igive evropuli qveynebi<br />

kargad da efeqtianad axorcieleben.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, yvelafer amaSi<br />

saakaSvili meTanxmeboda.<br />

_ yvelafer amaze miSasTn<br />

saubari erTi-erTze gqondaT Tu<br />

kanonproeqti dawereT da gansaxilvelad<br />

parlaments warudgi-<br />

neT?<br />

_ saakaSvili parlamentis sxdomaze<br />

gamovida da am reformis<br />

ganxorcieleba oficialurad damavala,<br />

proeqti daCqarebul vadeb-<br />

Si warmoadgineTo.<br />

_ am dros saakaSvili ukve<br />

prezidenti iyo?<br />

_ diax, oficialurad damavala,<br />

rom kanonproeqti damewera. davwere,<br />

ra Tqma unda, yvela deputats<br />

xeli movawerine _ amis Sesaxeb gancxadeba<br />

saakaSvils hqonda gakeTebuli<br />

da uars vin ityoda? deputatebisgan<br />

xelmowerili es kanonproeqti<br />

prezidents warvudgine,<br />

raTa parlamentSi misi iniciativ-<br />

`sasamarTlos bokeria marTavda! man is<br />

adamianebi CamogviSora, romlebic<br />

vcdilobdiT, reforma imisTvis<br />

ganxorcielebuliyo, raTa samarTals puri<br />

eWama da samarTalSi politika ar Careuliyo.<br />

Cven gvindoda, rom mosamarTleebis Zalian<br />

obieqturi korpusi SegverCia~<br />

iT Semosuliyo da ganxilva daCqarebuli<br />

wesiT momxdariyo. samwuxarod,<br />

am proeqtma daiZina.<br />

_ ras niSnavs, „daiZina”?<br />

_ saakaSvilma parlamentSi ar<br />

Semoitana.<br />

_ ar dainteresdiT, saakaSvilma<br />

Tqven mier dawerili kanon-<br />

proeqti parlamentSi ratom ar<br />

Semoitana?<br />

_ cxadia, mivakiTxe da vkiTxe<br />

parlamentis sxdomaze, romelsac<br />

diplomatiuri korpusisa da mTavrobis<br />

wevrebi eswrebodnen, _ damavaleT,<br />

rom es kanonproeqti damewera<br />

da ra xdeba-meTqi?<br />

_ ra gipasuxaT?<br />

_ avtonomiebTan mimarTebiT<br />

sxva gegmebi maqvs da, ubralod,<br />

minda, vadebi gadavwio, anu es<br />

reforma amis Semdeg daviwyoTo. me<br />

ra vicodi, rom mis gegmaSi omi<br />

Sedioda?<br />

_ am dros e. w. aWaris revolu-<br />

cia jer ar iyo momxdari?<br />

_ ki, momxdari iyo. saakaSvils<br />

mxedvelobaSi afxazeTi da samaCablo<br />

hqonda.<br />

_ imxanad giga bokeria depu-<br />

tati iyo, ara?<br />

_ bokeria saparlamento umravlesobis<br />

Tavmjdomare iyo da<br />

saakaSvilis saxeliT parlaments<br />

marTavda! aWaris deputatTa korpusis<br />

gauqmebis Taobaze proeqti<br />

rom Semoitanes, Cemsa da bokerias<br />

Soris pirveli Sejaxeba maSin moxda,<br />

anu sxdomaze sajarod vkiTxe,<br />

am gauqmebiT seriozul uaryofiT<br />

Sedegs miviRebT da politikur pasuxismgeblobas<br />

iReb Tu ara-meTqi?<br />

_ pasuxismgeblobas ki viReb,<br />

magram Sen visi saxeliT gvelaparakebio?<br />

_ CamekiTxa da dasZina, _<br />

me saqarTvelos prezidentis saxeliT<br />

vsaubrobo.<br />

amis Semdeg saakaSvilTan mivedi<br />

da davinteresdi, _ bokeria<br />

gancxadebebs Seni saxeliT akeTebs<br />

da es simarTles ramdenad Seesabameba-meTqi?<br />

saakaSvilma mipasuxa,<br />

_ proeqti bokeriasia, magram veTanxmebi,<br />

radgan afxazeTis deputacia<br />

Zveli da dromoWmuli korpusia.<br />

afxazeTidan axali korpusi<br />

imis mixedviT unda iqnes arCeuli,<br />

rasac Sen fiqrobo. davTanxmdi,<br />

radgan saubari grZelvadian proe-<br />

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faruli molaparakebebi<br />

qtsa da orpalatian parlamentzea,<br />

met winaaRmdegobas aRar gavwev-meTqi,<br />

magram yvelafer amis piroba<br />

is iyo, rom parlamentis meore<br />

palatis Seqmnis Taobaze konstituciuri<br />

kanoni unda yofiliyo<br />

miRebuli, Tumca, ra Tqma unda,<br />

motyuebuli aRmovCndi.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, minda, icodeT,<br />

rom amis gamo mixeil saakaSvilma<br />

bodiSi momixada da miTxra, am periodSi<br />

ar moxerxda, magram amis<br />

gakeTeba garkveuli drois Semdeg<br />

aucilebeliao.<br />

saakaSvilma bodiSi meored mas<br />

Semdeg momixada, rac Cems, gvaramiasa<br />

da bokerias Soris sasamarTlo<br />

reformaze Zalian didi skandali<br />

moxda _ parlamentis sxdomaze<br />

moviTxove, rom marTlmsajulebis<br />

sistemaSi fragmentuli ki ara,<br />

konceptualuri cvlilebebi Sesuliyo.<br />

amasTan, unda mogvesmina,<br />

marTlmsajulebis ra koncefcia<br />

arsebobda da sad ra cvlileba gatardeboda.<br />

Cems am moTxovnas parlamentis<br />

maSindelma Tavmjdomarem<br />

mxari dauWira da mosmenac dani-<br />

Sna. mosmena parlamentis e. w. mcire<br />

darbazSi unda Catarebuliyo, magram<br />

imis nacvlad, rom zemoxsenebuli<br />

sakiTxebi yofiliyo ganxiluli,<br />

bokeria da gvaramia pirdapir<br />

Tavs damesxnen, _ Sen ra ufleba<br />

gaqvs, yofili „aRorZinebis” wevri<br />

rogor bedav, rom sasamarTlo reformaze<br />

xmas iReb, sasamarTlo<br />

maSin ar gaxsovda, roca abaSiZe iyoo?!<br />

erTi sityviT, saqme iqamde miiyvanes,<br />

rom wonasworoba orive<br />

mxarem davkargeT da erTmaneTis<br />

ginebaze gadavediT. amitom, es mosmena<br />

CaiSala. darbazi davtove da<br />

wamovedi.<br />

amis Semdeg saakaSvilma damibara<br />

da imis gamo, rac moxda, bodi-<br />

Si momixada, es Cemgan namdvilad ar<br />

modioda, aq bokeriac myavda, gvaramiac,<br />

orive davtuqse, SenTanac<br />

movlen, bodiSs mogixdian, es bodiSi<br />

miiRe da es konfliqti amiT<br />

amovwuroTo.<br />

_ bokeriam da gvaramiam bodi-<br />

Si mogixades?<br />

_ diax, bodiSi orivem calcalke<br />

momixada, magram reforma<br />

mainc maT gaagrZeles da, saboloo<br />

jamSi, roca saakaSvilTan sakiTxi<br />

davsvi, arCevani gaakeTe-meTqi, man<br />

miTxra, arCevani gakeTebuli maqvs,<br />

es Cemi gundia da vendobio. Tu<br />

asea, maSin kargad iyaviT-meTqi,<br />

vuTxari da wamovedi.<br />

_ am dros, batono valeri,<br />

Tqven saCxeris maJoritari iyav-<br />

iT, ara?<br />

_ diax, saCxeris damoukidebeli<br />

maJoritari viyavi. am tipis maJoritarebs<br />

oTxkaciani fraqcia gvqonda<br />

da am fraqciis Tavmjdomaris<br />

moadgile gaxldiT da swored am<br />

statusiT vsaubrobdi.<br />

_ batono valeri, mas Semdeg<br />

amdeni weli gavida da, rogor<br />

fiqrobT, bokerias mxridan sasa-<br />

marTlos Tqveneuli reformis<br />

Cagdeba ras emsaxureboda? is<br />

sasamarTloze sakuTari gavlenis<br />

damyarebas cdilobda?<br />

_ diax, sasamarTlos bokeria<br />

marTavda! man is adamianebi CamogviSora,<br />

romlebic vcdilobdiT,<br />

reforma imisTvis ganxorcielebuliyo,<br />

raTa samarTals puri eWama<br />

da samarTalSi politika ar Careuliyo.<br />

Cven gvindoda, rom mosamarTleebis<br />

Zalian obieqturi ko-<br />

`sasamarTlos es korpusi mTlianad bokerias Seqmnilia, anu maSindel<br />

sasamarTloze kontroli bokerias hqonda aRebuli da ar mgonia, romelime<br />

mosamarTle dResac am kontrolis miRma iyos! winaaRmdeg SeTxvevaSi, albaT,<br />

im codvebs gauxseneben, romlis wyalobiTac isini mosamarTleebi gaxdnen!<br />

sxvaTa Soris, rogorc irkveva, Zalian bevr mosamarTles iuristis diplomi<br />

dRemde ar aqvs~<br />

rpusi SegverCia. sxvaTa Soris, mqonda<br />

winadadeba, rom mosamarTleebi<br />

xalxs aerCia _ ase sasamarTlos<br />

legitimaciis, xelSeuxeblobisa da<br />

daculobis maRali garantia eqneboda.<br />

amave dros, Cemi koncefciiT,<br />

marTlmsajuleba oTxdoniani unda<br />

yofiliyo, magram yvelaferi es<br />

bokerias politikur gegmebsa da<br />

gemovnebaSi ar jdeboda, anu Tu<br />

sasamarTlos kontrolqveS ver<br />

moaqcevdnen, maSin im politikas<br />

ver gaatarebdnen, rasac miiCnevdnen,<br />

rom marTali iyo. mere aRmoCnda,<br />

rom es politika mcdari iyo da<br />

axla amboben, Secdoma iyoo, magram<br />

Secdoma ki ara, is gegma, romli-<br />

Tac xelmZRvanelobdnen, winaswar<br />

hqondaT ganzraxuli.<br />

_ e. i., yvelaferi is, rac dRes<br />

sasamarTloSi da sasamarTlos ga-<br />

rSemo xdeba, garkveulwilad, giga<br />

bokerias kiserzea, batono val-<br />

eri?<br />

_ sasamarTlos es korpusi<br />

mTlianad bokerias Seqmnilia, anu<br />

maSindel sasamarTloze kontroli<br />

bokerias hqonda aRebuli da ar<br />

mgonia, romelime mosamarTle dResac<br />

am kontrolis miRma iyos! winaaRmdeg<br />

SeTxvevaSi, albaT, im codvebs<br />

gauxseneben, romlis wyalobi-<br />

Tac isini mosamarTleebi gaxdnen!<br />

sxvaTa Soris, rogorc irkveva,<br />

Zalian bevr mosamarTles iuristis<br />

diplomi dRemde ar aqvs.<br />

_ anu, dRes mosamarTleebi<br />

opozicioneri bokerias kontro-<br />

lis qveS arian?<br />

_ pirovnuli kontroli mainc<br />

darCenili iqneba. igive valeri<br />

cercvaZe, romelic iusticiis sabWos<br />

maSindeli mdivani iyo, Semdeg<br />

saapelacio sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare<br />

gaxda, anu eg xom bokerias<br />

gamoCekili kadria?!<br />

_ rogorc maxsovs, bokeriasTan<br />

dapirispireba maSinac gqondaT,<br />

roca girgvlianis saqmis sasamarTloSi<br />

ganxilvis win ramden-<br />

ime kanoni Secvala.<br />

_ diax, ase iyo, jer komitetze<br />

gamovedi, mere _ parlamentis sxdomaze,<br />

radgan isini kodeqsebs<br />

imis gamo ki ar cvlidnen, rom vTqvaT,<br />

dros ver gauZles da saxelmwifos<br />

marTlmsajulebis politika<br />

liberaluri unda gamxdariyo,<br />

aramed maT kanonebis morgeba imaze<br />

daiwyes, vis unda Sexeboda da vis<br />

_ ara!<br />

magaliTad, maSin mama basili<br />

iyo daWerili da sakiTxi davsvi, _<br />

mama basilis mimarT konkretulad<br />

am muxls ratom amZimebT-meTqi?<br />

erTi ambavi atexes, _ Sen provokatori<br />

xaro.<br />

igive girgvlianis sakiTxze<br />

vTqvi, _ am muxls nu amsubuqebTmeTqi.<br />

mokled, yvelafers konkretuli<br />

datvirTva hqonda, anu es<br />

muxlebi konkretul pirebs amnistiis<br />

nacvlad unda SexebodaT.<br />

warmogidgeniaT, kanoni amnistiis<br />

rols asrulebda! amaze, ra Tqma<br />

unda, avumxedrdi, magram Cemi ver<br />

gavitane.<br />

metic, saproceso kodeqsi rom<br />

Secvales, proklamacia gavakeTe.<br />

manamde ki parlamentis Tavmjdomares<br />

moxsenebiTi baraTi davuwere,<br />

sadac veubnebodi, rom am kodeqsis<br />

miReba Secdoma ki ara, pirdapir<br />

qarTvel xalxze galaSqreba iqneboda.<br />

es moxsenebiTi baraTi 21 gverdze<br />

iyo dawerili. nino burjanaZem<br />

rom waikiTxa, damireka da miTxra,<br />

_ Tu yvelaferi, rac aq weria,<br />

marTalia, maSin Tanamdebobidan<br />

gadavdgebi da am kanons ar mivaRebinebo,<br />

magram amis Semdeg Sekrebaze<br />

dagviZaxa, kiTxva isev bokerias<br />

dausva, romelic ajanyda, viTom<br />

yvelafer amas me specialurad vakeTebdi.<br />

isic ki Tqva, amas, albaT,<br />

vinmem dauwerao. aseT Seuracxyofaze<br />

rom gadavida, viCxubeT da<br />

sxdoma CaiSala.<br />

bolos, es cvlilebebi parlamentis<br />

sxdomaze gaitanes da miiRes,<br />

Tumca sanam miiRebdnen,<br />

rogorc giTxariT, proklamacia<br />

davwere da deputatebs is safrTxe<br />

davanaxve, romelic am kanonis<br />

miRebiT iyo mosalodneli.<br />

„am kanons xma ar misceT, vinaidan<br />

es aqlemi, Tavis droze, Tqvens<br />

karTanac daiCoqebs!” _ am sityvebiT<br />

mTavrdeboda es proklamacia.<br />

_ sazogadoebas rom gavaxsenoT,<br />

saproceso kodeqsis bokeriaseuli<br />

cvlilebebi ras iTval-<br />

iswinebda?<br />

_ am kanoniT udanaSaulo adamianis<br />

daWera SeiZleboda.<br />

_ da yvelaferi es girgvlianis<br />

TemasTan ratom iyo kavSirSi?<br />

_ iq sandro girgvliani arsad<br />

ewera, anu cvlileba konkretul<br />

muxlebSi Sedioda: zogan sanqcia<br />

izrdeboda, zogan mcirdeboda.<br />

mivxvdi, sasjelis Semcirebas romel<br />

muxlebSi Sesatani cvlilebebi<br />

iTvaliswinebda, anu raRac sxva<br />

motivacia amoZravebdaT da winaa-<br />

Rmdeg gamovedi, yvelafer amas personaliebisTvis<br />

nu akeTebT. kanons<br />

erTaderTi daniSnuleba unda<br />

hqondes _ damnaSaveebTan brZola-<br />

Si samarTliani da efeqturi unda<br />

iyos, magram am cvlilebebidan samarTliani<br />

da efeqtiani romeliameTqi?<br />

mokled, girgvliani erT-erT<br />

muxlSi qvecnobierad igrZnoboda,<br />

Torem sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsi<br />

saerTod icvleboda da amis winaaRmdegi<br />

viyavi, Tumca es cvlilebebi<br />

mainc gatarda _ parlamentma<br />

mxari ar damiWira, miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom deputatebs mivmarTe da<br />

vTxove, es kanonis cvlileba nu<br />

ggoniaT, es manipulaciaa da valdebuli<br />

xarT, am manipulaciis<br />

winaaRmdeg Tqveni pozicia daafiqsiroT-meTqi.<br />

yuri aravin damigdo<br />

da marto davrCi.<br />

_ weRandel kiTxvas gavimeo-<br />

reb: batono valeri, sasamarTlo<br />

sistemaSi arsebul abrakadabraze<br />

pasuxismgebloba<br />

bokeriasac<br />

ekisreba, romelic dRes „evropu-<br />

li saqarTvelos” lideria, ara?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda. saqarTveloSi<br />

maSindeli marTlmsajulebis reforma<br />

personalurad bokeriasTan<br />

aris mibmuli da dakavSirebuli!<br />

orive kanoni, romelic Seicvala,<br />

misi iniciativa iyo da sasamarTloebis<br />

kompleqtaciac bokerias kontroliT<br />

xdeboda! aba, meti raRa<br />

giTxraT?<br />

axla bokeriaze amboben, rom<br />

ucodveli kravia, ase ar aris!<br />

_ sxvaTa Soris, politikur<br />

wreebSi arsebobs versia, rom bok-<br />

eria „ocnebasTan” TiTqos farul<br />

kavSirSia. amaze ra azris xarT?<br />

_ es kiTxva sajarod, jer kidev,<br />

2013 wels davsvi, anu erT-erTi<br />

gamosvlis dros biZina ivaniSvilma<br />

ganacxada, uSiSroebis sabWos 40<br />

milioni aqvs gaflangulio, magram<br />

bokerias garda yvela daiWires da<br />

maSin vikiTxe, _ ra xdeba, bokeria<br />

pasuxisgebaSi ratom ar mieca, roca<br />

gacxadda, rom 40 milioni aqvs<br />

gaflanguli-meTqi? am kiTxvas<br />

wauyrues da aravin mipasuxa. es ki<br />

imas niSnavda, rom bokeriaze ivaniSvilis<br />

garkveuli wyaloba gavrcelda.<br />

simarTle giTxraT, ar mesmis,<br />

bokerize ivaniSvilis wyaloba<br />

ratom unda gavrcelebuliyo, Tu<br />

politikuri garigeba ar moxda?<br />

_ yvelafer aqedan gamom-<br />

dinare, xom ar fiqrobT, rom<br />

ivaniSvili xelisuflebas swored<br />

bokerias politikur gunds gada-<br />

abarebs?<br />

_ me erTi ram vici: amerikelebi<br />

farul samuSaos asruleben, raTa<br />

ivaniSvili daarwmunon, rom misi<br />

xelisuflebaSi darCena SeuZlebelia<br />

da politikuri memkvidreobis<br />

Secvlaa saWiro, magram ivaniSvili<br />

sakiTxs ase ayenebs, _ Cemi wasvlis<br />

Semdeg, saakaSvili mobrundeba,<br />

rasac ar davuSvebo.<br />

_ amaze amerikelebi ivaniSvils<br />

ras pasuxoben?<br />

_ maTi pasuxia, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

angariSsworebebi ar iqneba,<br />

magram mTavari xalxia. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

ivaniSvili amerikelebs<br />

qveteqstiT eubneba, _ oRond saakaSvili<br />

ara da sxva nebismierio. es<br />

„sxva nebismieri” ki an „patriotTa<br />

aliansia”, an bokerias jgufi. amerikelebisTvis<br />

„patriotTa aliansi”<br />

miuRebelia da bokeriaRa rCeba.<br />

_ amerikelebisTvis, Tqveni informaciiT,<br />

saakaSvilic miuRebe-<br />

lia?<br />

_ saakaSvils, albaT, sxva funqcias<br />

mouZebnian.<br />

_ anu?<br />

_ SeiZleba, droebiT ukrainaSi<br />

Catovon.<br />

_ xelisuflebis bokeriasTvis<br />

gadabarebas sazogadoeba miiRebs?<br />

_ es arCevani sazogadoebam Tavad<br />

unda gaakeTos da Tu xalxi<br />

aseT arCevans gaakeTebs, ra unda<br />

vqnaT?<br />

_ arCevnebi gasagebia, magram<br />

xom viciT, rom arCevnebi marto<br />

xalxze ar aris damokidebuli.<br />

_ diax, magram Tu danarCenma<br />

opoziciurma speqtrma daiZina, es<br />

ase moxdeba, magram Tu gaaqtiurda,<br />

maSin procesebi sxvanairad ganviTardeba.<br />

ise, mgonia, rom an axali politikuri<br />

partiebi Seiqmneba, an partiebi<br />

raRac axal formatSi gaer-<br />

Tiandebian da axali mowodebebiT<br />

gamovlen. es qveyanas saSualebas<br />

miscems, rom politikuri procesebi<br />

ufro mobilizebuli gaxados!<br />

_ sxvaTa Soris, vrceldeba in-<br />

formacia, rom ivaniSvili TiTqos<br />

vadamdel arCevnebze dasTanxmda<br />

da saparlamento arCevnebi 2020-<br />

Si ki ara, wels gaimarTeba<br />

_ vadamdeli saparlamento<br />

arCevnebi ivaniSvils awyobs da vis<br />

unda dasTanxmeboda? dRevandeli<br />

monacemebiT mTavari oponentebi<br />

„qarTuli ocneba” da „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” arian. amitom vadamdeli<br />

arCevnebiT „ocneba” xelisuflebaSi<br />

yofnas gaigrZelebs.<br />

ise, vadamdeli arCevnebi Sei-<br />

Zleba, „nacionalur moZraobasac”<br />

awyobs, magram es qarTvel xalxs ar<br />

awyobs!<br />

5


Tengiz abloTia<br />

wina xelisuflebis mowinaaRmdegeTa erT-erTi argumenti<br />

yovelTvis iyo da dResac, 7 wlis Semdeg, rCeba saakaSvilis<br />

administraciis mier rusuli investorebis Semoyvana strate-<br />

giul dargebSi. es braldebebi ismis ukve mravali weli erTi<br />

da igive teqstiT: „rusebs mihyides mTeli ekonomika” an<br />

„ruseTs ekuTvnis yvela strategiuli dargi”.<br />

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leblad gamoiyenebs am berkets<br />

saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg da erTi<br />

xelis mosmiT qveyana dakargavs<br />

rus turistebsac da rusul bazarsac.<br />

es mocemuloba gacilebiT saSi-<br />

Sia, vidre „Telasi” rusebis xel-<br />

Si, Tumca amas aravin aqcevs yuradRebas.<br />

sinamdvileSi ki „mTeli ekonomika”<br />

an, Tundac, „yvela strate-<br />

avtorebi didi xania, televizorsac<br />

ki ar uyureben.<br />

aseve gaugebaria, ratom aCuqes<br />

igive „Ïðîìûøëåííûå èíâåñò-<br />

îðû”-s zestafonis feroSenadnob-<br />

Ta qarxana maSin, rodesac saakaSvilis<br />

periodSic ki es qarxana<br />

ekuTvnoda ukrainul „Ïðèâàò<br />

ãðóïï”-s, anu moskovis erT-erT<br />

yvelaze dauZinebel mters, oligarq<br />

igor kolomoiskis.<br />

amiT absurdis Teatri ar sruldeba<br />

_ mTavari saocrebebi jer<br />

kidev winaa.<br />

siaSi amoikiTxavT kompania „iteras”,<br />

romelic araTu ar flobs<br />

araviTar aqtivebs saqarTveloSi,<br />

aramed saerTod arc arsebobs _<br />

2013 wels mTeli misi qoneba „ros-<br />

da ar politikaSi da yazaxeTi yirgizeTTan<br />

erevaT. ar ician, rom<br />

yazaxeTi aris Zlieri da mdidari<br />

saxelmwifo, is ar TamaSobs aravis<br />

dakrulze da Tu rames aweria<br />

„yaz” _ es aris „yaz” da ara SeniRbuli<br />

„ru”.<br />

saocrebaTa Teatris kidev er-<br />

Ti personaJi _ Cexuri „energo<br />

pro”, romelic wlebis manZilze<br />

jiutad moixsenieba, rogorc rusuli.<br />

ratom, ra uflebiT da romeli<br />

logikiT kompania, romlis prezentaciazec,<br />

Tavis droze, iyo CexeTis<br />

ekonomikis ministri da romelsac<br />

aRebuli aqvs sesxi CexeTis<br />

impeqs-bankSi _ aris rusuli? aravin<br />

icis. albaT, esec saWiroa.<br />

strategiuli obieqtebis Camo-<br />

kompania _ es aris „Telasi”.<br />

Tumca aqac uzustobaa _ „Telasi”<br />

mieyida „raos” ara saakaSvilis<br />

periodSi, aramed 2003 wlis seqtemberSi.<br />

Sesabamisad, es iyo realoba,<br />

romelic daxvda „nacmoZraobas”<br />

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />

Semdeg.<br />

„inter raos” aseve ekuTvnis<br />

ramdenime mcire hesi _ siebis avtorebs<br />

uyvarT saxelebis didi<br />

CamonaTvali ise, rom STabeWdileba<br />

iqmneba, TiTqos saubaria mTel<br />

energosistemaze, Tumca realurad<br />

maTi jamuri simZlavre araferia<br />

engurisa da sxva msxvili eleqtrosadgurebis<br />

fonze.<br />

sinamdvileSi ki araviTari mniSvneloba<br />

ar aqvs, ra aris realu-<br />

miTebi ruseTis mier strategiuli<br />

obieqtebis dapatronebaze<br />

amaze ukve didi xania, aravin<br />

kamaTobs da amitomac saqmeSi Cauxedav<br />

adamians STabeWdileba Seeqmneba,<br />

TiTqos es marTlac asea.<br />

niSandoblivi isicaa, rom Zalian<br />

xSirad am braldebiT gamodian<br />

adamianebi, romlebic, amave<br />

dros, amboben: „ruseTi ar unda<br />

gavabrazoT”, „daTvs babaia unda<br />

dauZaxoT” _ patriotizmi da ruse-<br />

Tis miuRebloba ki uecrad eRvi-<br />

ZebaT maincdamainc „Telasisa” da<br />

„varcixe hesis” xsenebis dros.<br />

sasaciloa isic, rom am ritorikas<br />

xSirad iyeneben dRevandeli<br />

xelisuflebis Cinovnikebi da momxreebi<br />

_ maSin, rodesac swored<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” ZalisxmeviT<br />

Tu wayruebiT ruseTis gavlenam<br />

qarTul ekonomikaze miaRwia maqsimums<br />

_ dRes swored ruseTidan<br />

Camodis turistebis yvelaze didi<br />

raodenoba da swored ruseTia qarTuli<br />

produqciis mTavari importiori.<br />

xval an zeg, kremli auci-<br />

giuli obieqti ruseTis xelSia” _<br />

aris morigi miTi, romelsac realobasTan<br />

araferi aqvs saerTo.<br />

albaT yvelas gvinaxavs saocari<br />

siebi, sadac CamoTvlilia yvela<br />

obieqti, romelic wina xelisuflebis<br />

dros gadaeca ruseTs.<br />

siebi gansxvavdeba absurdulobis<br />

doniT _ zogi metad absurdulia,<br />

zogi naklebad, Tumca<br />

dalagebuli, racionaluri da realobasTan<br />

axlo _ arc erTi.<br />

pirvel rigSi, siebSi moyvanilia<br />

rusuli kompaniebi, romlebic<br />

didi xania ar floben maTTvis miweril<br />

obieqtebs _ magaliTad,<br />

„madneulsa” da „kvarcits” am siebis<br />

mixedviT flobs rusuli kompania<br />

„Ïðîìûøëåííûå èíâåñò-<br />

îðû”, maSin rodesac, realurad,<br />

wlebia gasuli am rusuli biznesidan<br />

_ saydrisis movlenebis wyalobiT<br />

patara bavSvmac ki icis,<br />

rom am obieqtebs flobs kompania<br />

RMG. Tumca, rogorc Cans, siebis<br />

neftma” iyida.<br />

es kompania Semovida saqarTvelos<br />

gazis regionul qselebSi,<br />

Tumca mas Semdeg, rac qveyana azerbaijanul<br />

bunebriv airze gadavida,<br />

jer kidev „nacmoZraobis”<br />

Rrma periodSi, „iteram” yvela<br />

Tavisi qarTuli aqtivi „sokargazs”<br />

mihyida.<br />

Tumca, albaT, esec arafers<br />

cvlis, radgan zogierT siaSi „sokaric”<br />

ki naxsenebia, rogorc rusuli<br />

kompania. ratom da ra mizezis<br />

gamo aRmoCnda azerbaijanis saxelmwifo<br />

navTobkompania saswaulebrivad<br />

rusuli _ aravin icis.<br />

asea, etyoba, saWiro da imitom.<br />

„sokarTan” erTad, yvela siaSi<br />

jiutad figurirebs rusuli „yaztransgazi”<br />

_ vinmem uTxariT sawyal<br />

nazarbaevs, rom misi qveynis<br />

umsxvilesi saxelmwifo kompania,<br />

Turme, rusulia.<br />

etyoba, siebis avtorebi ar erkvevian<br />

Sua aziis arc geografiaSi<br />

naTvalSi aseve moxvdnen „lukoili”,<br />

„bilaini” da „viTibi banki”.<br />

rogorc Cans, siebis avtorebma ar<br />

ician, ras niSnavs „strategiuli<br />

obieqti”. sinamdvileSi, strategiuli<br />

aris zogadsaxelmwifo mniSvnelobis<br />

obieqti, romelic erTaderTi<br />

da Seucvlelia, magaliTad:<br />

asafren-dasafreni bilikebi, energogamtari<br />

xazebi, milsadenebi.<br />

veranairi navTobkompania, romelic<br />

flobs bazris mcire nawils,<br />

ver CaiTvleba veranair „strategiul<br />

obieqtad”; iseve rogor komerciuli<br />

banki, romelic ar Sedis umsxvilesi<br />

bankebis xuTeulSic ki;<br />

iseve rogorc mobiluri kavSirgabmulobis<br />

kompania, romelsac konkurencias<br />

uwevs 2 umsxvilesi moTamaSe.<br />

saboloo jamSi, kargad rom<br />

davferTxoT siebi da realobas<br />

SevxedoT, xelT SegvrCeba mxolod<br />

erTi strategiuli obieqti, romelsac<br />

namdvilad flobs rusuli<br />

rad. „ruseTisTvis miyiduli strategiuli<br />

obieqtebis” „SemaZrwunebeli”<br />

sia aris ara ekonomikuri,<br />

aramed politikuri Widaobis berketi.<br />

politika ki iseTi ramea, rodesac<br />

saWiroa, „yaztransgazi” iqneba<br />

yazaxuri da rodesac saWiroa _<br />

rusuli. xval vinmes rom dasWirdes<br />

_ Cinuric iqneba...<br />

ar gegonoT, rom es warsulia _<br />

igive xdeba dResac, oRond sapirispiro<br />

mxridan: magaliTad, arafriT<br />

dasabuTebuli braldebebi,<br />

rom „rosnefti” yidulobs „visols”<br />

an braldebebi, rom „xelisuflebas<br />

qveynis navTobis bazarze<br />

rusebi Semohyavs „galfis” meSveobiT”<br />

maSin, rodesac „galfi”<br />

saqarTveloSi Semovida 2010 wels<br />

da maSinac misi mflobeli iyo rusi<br />

biznesmeni daviT iakobaSvili.<br />

saqarTveloSi xom politikaa<br />

yvelaferi...<br />

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eliso kilaZe<br />

599 17 12 12<br />

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarT-<br />

loSi „pijakebis saqmis” ganxilva grZeldeba. prokuratura<br />

general Temur janaSias winaswar SeTanxmebiT, jgufis mier<br />

samsaxurebrivi mdgomareobis gamoyenebiT, mis marTlzomier<br />

gamgeblobaSi arsebuli didi odenobiT sxvisi moZravi nivTis<br />

marTlsawinaaRmdego gaflangvas edaveba. saqarTvelos mTavari<br />

prokuraturis sagamoZiebo nawilis ufrosi, prokurori na-<br />

Tia sonRulaSvili, romelmac general janaSias brali warud-<br />

gina, daawinaures da is dRes aWaris prokuroria.<br />

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`pijakebis saqmis~<br />

morigi procesi<br />

ra weria janaSias bralis<br />

dadgenilebaSi?<br />

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wlis 25 Tebervlamde periodSi<br />

Teimuraz janaSia iyo saqarTvelos<br />

saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />

samsaxuris ufrosi, igi<br />

uSualod eqvemdebareboda saqarTvelos<br />

prezidents da warmoadgenda<br />

sajaro moxeles.<br />

2004 wlis ianvridan 2009 wlis<br />

aprilamde periodSi, saprezidento<br />

saqmianobis ganxorcielebis<br />

mizniT, mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

warmomadgenlobiTi xarjebi finansdeboda<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentis<br />

administraciisa da ssip<br />

saxelmwifo uzrunvelyofis saagentos<br />

saxsrebiT.<br />

2009 wlis martSi masobrivi<br />

informaciis saSualebiT cnobili<br />

gaxda, rom mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

mowveviT masaJist doroTi Steinis<br />

_ „doqtor dotis” saqarTveloSi<br />

viziti da misTvis gaweuli<br />

momsaxurebis anazRaureba ganxorcielda<br />

prezidentis warmomadgenlobiTi<br />

xarjebidan.<br />

vinaidan saqarTvelos prezidentis<br />

administraciisa ssip saxelmwifo<br />

uzrunvelyofis saagentos<br />

xarjebi iyo sajaro, sa-<br />

Wiro gaxda warmomadgenlobiTi<br />

xarjebis aramiznobrivad gamoyenebis<br />

faqtebis gamJRavnebis<br />

Tavidan acileba. am mizniT, mieil<br />

saakaSvilma, TiTqosda saqar-<br />

Tvelos saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />

samsaxuris mier dasacav<br />

pirTa usafrTxoebis amaRlebisa<br />

da dacvis xarisxis gasaumjobeseblad<br />

saWiro RonisZiebebis<br />

dasafinanseblad, sinamdvileSi<br />

ki piradi motiviT, gadawyvita,<br />

prezidentis sarezervo fondidan<br />

uSualo daqvemdebarebaSi myofi<br />

saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />

samsaxurisTvis saxelmwifos<br />

kuTvnili Tanxebis aramiznobri-<br />

Temur janaSia<br />

vad gamoyofa, rac ganxorcielda<br />

samsaxuris ufrosebis oTar<br />

qveliZisa da Teimuraz janaSias<br />

monawileobiT.<br />

kerZod, mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

davalebiT arsebuli samarTlebrivi<br />

safuZvlebis xelovnurad<br />

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2009-2013 wlebSi grifiT<br />

saidumlo werilebiT mimarTes<br />

saqarTvelos prezidents, TiTqosda,<br />

saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />

samsaxuris saWiroebis-<br />

Tvis Tanxebis gamoyofis Sesaxeb.<br />

amdenad, Teimuraz janaSiam Caidina<br />

danaSauli, rac gaTvaliswinebulia<br />

saqarTvelos sisxlis<br />

samarTlis kodeqsis 182-e muxlis<br />

me-2 nawilis a, d qvepunqtiT<br />

da me-3 nawilis b qvepunqtiT.<br />

rogorc bralis dadgenilebidan<br />

irkveva, prokuratura Temur<br />

janaSiasTan erTad samsaxuris<br />

ufros oTar qveliZesac<br />

edaveboda igive danaSauls, Tumca<br />

am dromde mas brali wardgenili<br />

ar hqonda da braldebis<br />

mxaris mowmeTa siaSi iricxeboda.<br />

16 maiss gamarTul sxdomaze<br />

swored braldebis mxaris mowme<br />

oTar qveliZe daikiTxa. rogorc<br />

gairkva, mas 2019 wlis 3 marts<br />

warudgines brali.<br />

ar vici, ramdenad fiqrobda<br />

saxelmwifo braldeba imas, rom<br />

oTar qveliZe braldebis mxaris<br />

sasargeblo Cvenebas miscemda<br />

sasamarTlos, magram, realurad,<br />

misi Cvenebidan sul sxva ram gairkva:<br />

oTar qveliZis Cvenebam daadastura<br />

is, rasac janaSias dacvis<br />

mxare sistematurad acxadebda.<br />

realurad, saxelmwifo dacvis<br />

specialurma samsaxurma prezidentis<br />

gankargulebis safuZvelze<br />

xarjebis gaweva daiwyo oTar<br />

qveliZis ufrosobis periodSi.<br />

oTar qveliZem xarjebis gaw-<br />

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`Sejamebis saxiT SegviZlia vTqvaT, rom<br />

oTar qveliZis Cvenebam naTelyo<br />

prokuraturis mier warmoebuli<br />

tendenciuri da arasrulyofili gamoZieba~<br />

beqa basilaia<br />

evaze (xarjebi, rac manamde administraciis<br />

mier gaiweoda) davaleba<br />

miiRo prezidentis administraciis<br />

ufros ekaterine SaraSiZisgan,<br />

romelic mTavar prokuraturas<br />

arc gamoZiebis mimdinareobisas<br />

daukiTxavs da arc<br />

sasamarTlo ganxilvebis dros.<br />

oTar qveliZes prezident saakaSvilTan<br />

xarjebis gawevasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT ar usaubria, man<br />

daadastura, rom prezidentis<br />

gankarguleba, romelic, imavdroulad,<br />

umaRlesi mTavarsardalic<br />

iyo, saxelmwifo dacvis<br />

specialuri samsaxurisTvis<br />

Sesasruleblad savaldebulo<br />

iyo da revizias ar eqvemdebareboda.<br />

oTar qveliZem daadastura,<br />

rom rodesac Teimuraz janaSia<br />

samsaxuris ufrosad dainiSna<br />

prezidentis gankargulebis safuZvelze,<br />

xarjebis gawevis praqtika<br />

ukve arsebobda da am praqtikis<br />

kanoniereba eWvqveS ar<br />

damdgara, amdenad, janaSia moqmedebda<br />

umaRlesi mTavarsardlis<br />

werilobiTi gankargulebis<br />

Sesabamisad.<br />

rogorc zemoT aRvniSneT,<br />

oTar qveliZes 2019 wlis 3 marts<br />

waredgina braldeba, rodesac<br />

analogiur sakiTxze Teimuraz<br />

janaSia braldebulia 2014 wlidan<br />

da SezRudulia uflebebSi.<br />

qveliZis mimarT arc yadaRa<br />

yofila gamoyenebuli, arc sxva<br />

kanoniT dadgenili SezRudvebi,<br />

bralis wardgena ki, savaraudod,<br />

an formalur xasiaTs atarebs, an<br />

qveliZe prokuraturam misTvis<br />

sasurveli Cvenebis micemaze ver<br />

daiTanxma.<br />

beqa basilaia _ Temur jana-<br />

Sias advokati:<br />

_ Sejamebis saxiT SegviZlia<br />

vTqvaT, rom oTar qveliZis Cvenebam<br />

naTelyo prokuraturis mier<br />

warmoebuli tendenciuri da<br />

arasrulyofili gamoZieba. mis-<br />

Tvis braldebis 2019 wels wardgena<br />

prokuraturis mxridan wlebis<br />

manZilze Teimuraz janaSias<br />

winaaRmdeg warmoebuli SerCevi-<br />

Ti marTlmsajulebis aRiarebaa,<br />

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gamoricxulia Cveni da „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” an Cveni da „evropuli<br />

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surveb da iqneba Tu ara es „dem-<br />

okratiuli moZraobisTvis” axali<br />

saxeebis Semoyvanis dasawyisi?<br />

_ ar SeiZleba, politikaSi axali<br />

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an raime araswori nabijis gadadgmas.<br />

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25, 26 da arc 30 wlis asakSi<br />

ministrebad da premier-ministrebad<br />

adamianebs ar niSnaven. Cven<br />

amas vakeTebT da amis Sedegsac<br />

vimkiT. politikas gamocdileba<br />

sWirdeba da SemiZlia sakuTari<br />

magaliTiT absoluturad pirdapir<br />

giTxraT: roca parlamentis<br />

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rom mqonoda, rac dRes<br />

maqvs, gacilebiT efeqtiani da<br />

Zlieri parlamentis Tavmjdomare<br />

viqnebodi, vidre viyavi. rac Seexeba<br />

axal saxeebs, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

axalma saxeebma es kidev erTxel<br />

daadastures, adamianurad me<br />

maTi sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs<br />

da SesaZloa, maT mimarT keTilganwyobac<br />

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ubralod, samarcxvinoebi<br />

arian, radgan absoluturad<br />

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isini martivad amboben, rom, magaliTad,<br />

raRac pirvelad xdeba<br />

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ukve namsjelia da gadawyvetilebac<br />

ki miRebulia. dRes ki amis<br />

safuZvelze moqmedeben. es yvelaferi<br />

araprofesionalizmis na-<br />

Tel STabeWdilebas tovebs, rac<br />

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frTa, romelic<br />

Zalian efeqtiani iyo 2009 wlis<br />

saprotesto aqciebis dros da<br />

mTeli am 10 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

misi da misi megobrebis Tavze gadaira<br />

kargmac da cudmac, rac am<br />

partiaSi xdeboda, maT Soris, sakmaod<br />

rTulma da umadurma saqmeebma,<br />

radgan, rogorc wesi, isini<br />

saqmes akeTebdnen da naklebad Candnen.<br />

Cveni partiis axalgazrdebi<br />

2 ivniss gamoCndebian yrilobaze.<br />

es adamianebi, TavianTi axalgazrduli<br />

asakis miuxedavad sakmaod<br />

gamocdilebi arian politikur<br />

brZolebSi. yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />

ki Semdegia: Cveni partiis<br />

axalgazrdebma ician, rom<br />

bevri ram ician, magram aseve ician,<br />

rom aris raRacebi, rac ar ician,<br />

rasac swavla da dro sWirdeba.<br />

maT ar aqvT uazro ambiciebi.<br />

dRes zogierTi axalgazrda quCa-<br />

Si rom gaaCero da premier-ministroba<br />

SesTavazo, SeiZleba, uari<br />

ar Tqvas. Cven aseTi axalgazrdebi<br />

ar gvyavs. Cven gvyavs axalgazrdebi,<br />

romlebmac bevri ram ician<br />

da bevri ram gamoiares, magram<br />

agrZeleben swavlas, aseve mzad<br />

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razedac acxadeben mzaobas, rom<br />

amis gakeTeba SeuZliaT. gnebavT,<br />

partiis erT-erTi lideroba Tu<br />

parlamentis wevroba da a. S.<br />

_ am mimarTulebiT mmarTveli<br />

gundis gaaqtiureba niSnavs Tu<br />

ara, rom isini grZnoben xifaTs,<br />

rom „ocneba” naklebad popularulia<br />

Tundac damwyebi politikosebisTvis<br />

da ramdenad sax-<br />

ifaTo niSnulze dganan isini?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, grZnoben.<br />

`vici, riT aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im<br />

deputatebs, romlebic wamosvlas apireben, -<br />

ivaniSvili pirdapir vaWrobs, - amas gagikeTeb,<br />

amdens mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />

periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian bevrs niSnavs<br />

politikaSi, magram gadis raRac dro, dgeba<br />

krizisuli niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />

aRaraferia~<br />

`dResve rom<br />

migviRon<br />

evrokavSirSi,<br />

orive xeliT<br />

mivesalmebi,<br />

mTeli Cemi<br />

partia<br />

droSebiT<br />

gamovalT<br />

quCaSi~<br />

vfiqrob, rom „qarTuli ocneba”,<br />

praqtikulad, dangreulia, realurad<br />

araferze dgas. isedac<br />

araferze idga, mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />

_ fulze. magram am fuls<br />

Zalian seriozulad amyarebda is<br />

pirovnuli ndoba, romelic biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis mimarT iyo. udavod,<br />

es gaxldaT maRali xarisxis<br />

ndoba da Zalian dasanania, rom am<br />

adamianma es ndoba, pativiscema da<br />

siyvaruli, romelic mis mimarT<br />

iyo saqarTvelos mosaxleobis absolutur<br />

umravlesobaSi, ase gaaniava.<br />

vinaidan mas endobian, vinaidan<br />

is bevrs uyvars da bevri<br />

afasebs mis gakeTebul saqmeebs,<br />

man, ratomRac, ifiqra, rom yvela<br />

unda marTos, yvelas Wkua unda<br />

aswavlos, yvelaferi iyidos da<br />

yvelaferi mis neba-survilze unda<br />

iyos. es iyo misi Zalian didi,<br />

ukve gamousworebeli Secdoma. ra<br />

Tqma unda, aman Zalian bevri politikuri<br />

miwisZvra gamoiwvia. Sei-<br />

Zleba patar-patara, romelsac<br />

ver vgrZnobT, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />

politikaSi garkeul Sedegs<br />

aucileblad moitans. procesi,<br />

romelic „qarTul ocnebaSia”<br />

dawyebuli, Seuqcevadia. vici, riT<br />

aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im deputatebs,<br />

romlebic wamosvlas<br />

apireben, _ ivaniSvili pirdapir<br />

vaWrobs, _ amas gagikeTeb, amdens<br />

mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />

periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian<br />

bevrs niSnavs politikaSi, magram<br />

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niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />

aRaraferia. es, daaxloebiT, aseT<br />

situacias hgavs: karg gemze rom<br />

iyoT dasasveneblad da Zalian<br />

bevri fuli gqondeT, am fuliT<br />

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magram Tu gemi CaZirvas daiwyebs,<br />

fuli mniSvnelobas dakargavs,<br />

mTavaria, fizikurad gadarCe, didi<br />

albaTobiT, im fuliT savse<br />

Cemodans gemze datovebT, ar daiwyebT<br />

CemodanTan erTad CaZirvas.<br />

daaxloebiT asea politikaSic: ra-<br />

Rac periodi fuli muSaobs, magram<br />

roca politikuri gemi CaZirvas<br />

iwyebs, fuli aRarafers niSnavs.<br />

vfiqrob, saqarTveloSi ase-<br />

Ti viTareba TandaTanobiT yalibdeba.<br />

yvelaze didi pretenzia,<br />

rac ivaniSvilis mimarT maqvs, aris<br />

is, rom man Tavisi sakadro gadawyvetilebebiT<br />

katastrofuli magaliTi<br />

misca axalgazrdobas,<br />

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`qarTuli ocneba~, praqtikulad, dangreulia, realurad araferze dgas.<br />

isedac araferze idga, mxolod ivaniSvilis - fulze. magram am fuls Zalian<br />

seriozulad amyarebda is pirovnuli ndoba, romelic biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

mimarT iyo. udavod, es gaxldaT maRali xarisxis ndoba da Zalian dasanania,<br />

rom am adamianma es ndoba, pativiscema da siyvaruli, romelic mis mimarT<br />

iyo saqarTvelos mosaxleobis absolutur umravlesobaSi, ase gaaniava~<br />

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rodesac axalgazrdebs daanaxva,<br />

rom ar aqvs mniSvneloba, ra ganaTleba<br />

gaqvs, sad muSaobdi, ra<br />

gamocdileba gaqvs, ra gagikeTebia,<br />

nebismieri pozicia SeiZleba<br />

daikavo, Tu gaqvs fuli an mxars<br />

giWers fuliani adamiani. piriqiT,<br />

axalgazrdebs magaliTi unda<br />

misce, rom warmatebis misaRwev<br />

gzaze yvela nabijis gavlaa aucilebeli.<br />

politikosoba ginda? _<br />

keTili inebe da partiis rigiTi<br />

wevrobidan daiwye; xelisufleba-<br />

Si mosvla ginda? _ pirdapir premier-ministrobiT<br />

nu daawyebineb.<br />

es, albaT, ar aris imaTi brali,<br />

vinc amas dasTanxmda, Tumca Zalian<br />

kargad maxsovs, miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />

universiteti wiTel diplomze<br />

mqonda damTavrebuli da moskovis<br />

saxelmwifo universitetSi disertacia<br />

davicavi, aseve ukve parlamentSi<br />

iuridiul komitetSi<br />

wamyvan Tanamdebobaze vmuSaobdi<br />

(jer moadgile, Semdeg Tavmjdomare<br />

viyavi), rodesac SevardnaZem<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomareoba<br />

SemomTavaza, amaze<br />

uari vTqvi. gavacnobiere pasuxismgebloba,<br />

erTi dRec ar mqonda<br />

mosamarTled namuSevari da,<br />

Sesabamisad, ar davTanxmdi. veravin<br />

gaigo, ratom vTqvi uari, yvela<br />

gaocebuli iyo. Cemi axsna gaxldaT<br />

Zalian martivi: roca rigiT<br />

mosamarTled erTi dRec ar<br />

gimuSavia, rogor SeiZleba gaxde<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare<br />

da saboloo gadawyvetileba<br />

miiRo adamianebis bedTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT?! CemTvis es iyo absoluturad<br />

warmoudgeneli. dRes gaaCereT<br />

iuridiuli fakultetis me-<br />

4 kursis studentebi, 10-dan 9-m<br />

SeiZleba giTxraT, rom ukve mzad<br />

aris uzenaesi sasamarTlos TavmjdomareobisTvis,<br />

radgan axalgazrdebma<br />

dainaxes, imdenad daeca<br />

xelisuflebaSi myofi adamianebisadmi<br />

da parlamentarebisadmi<br />

moTxovnis done, rom ukve yvelas<br />

gauCnda ambicia, _ masac Seu-<br />

Zlia iyos deputati, ministri, meri<br />

da a. S., es Zalian didi dana-<br />

Saulia saxelmwifos winaSe! es realoba<br />

profesionalizmis didi pativiscemiT<br />

unda Seicvalos.<br />

_ fuladma resursma SesaZl-<br />

oa, imdenad aRar imuSaos, Tumca<br />

saprezidento da Sualedur<br />

arCevnebzec davinaxeT, rom „oc-<br />

neba” aqtiurad iyenebs „antimiSa”<br />

da „antinacionalebis” kampanias,<br />

riTac komfortis zonaSia. gaW-<br />

ris Tu ara es meTodi 2020 wels?<br />

_ wina xelisuflebas rac ar<br />

unda 9 weli uZaxon, TviTon „ocneba”<br />

ukve 7 welia, xelisufleba-<br />

Si aris da sibinZuriT arafriT<br />

Camouvardeba „nacionalebs”. is<br />

meTodebi, riTac „qarTuli ocneba”<br />

muSaobs, Tavisi sibinZuriT saakaSvilis<br />

meTodebs arafriT Camouvardeba,<br />

raRacebSi zedmetic<br />

ki aris. is, rac ivaniSvilis xelisuflebaSi<br />

yofnis dros moxda,<br />

rodesac umaRlesi Tanamdebobis<br />

pirebs SantaJisa Tu Seuracxyofis<br />

mizniT gamouqveynes piradi<br />

cxovrebis masalebi, es saakaSvilis<br />

dros ar momxdara. SeiZleba,<br />

saakaSvilis dros iyo Cawerili,<br />

Tumca ra mniSvneloba aqvs, vis<br />

dros Caiweres, saakaSvils Tavisi<br />

codvebi eyofa. is, rom ivaniSvilis<br />

dros es moxda da amisTvis<br />

aravin dasjila, sawyali 16-17<br />

wlis bavSvebis garda, romlebmac<br />

daaRes piri da raRac sisuleleebs<br />

uyures, es samarcxvinoa am<br />

qveynisTvis da es unda damTavrdes!<br />

is, rom dRes saakaSvili xelisuflebaSi<br />

dasabruneblad<br />

ibrZvis da „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />

qveyanaSi arsebobs, rogorc meore<br />

politikuri Zala, amaze biZina<br />

ivaniSvils Zalian mwared unda<br />

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qneviT daxvdnen.<br />

mokled, yvelafer amis amocana<br />

swored es iyo, magram raRac momentSi<br />

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Tavdamsxmelebi Zun-<br />

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iyoo. yvelafer amis gamo gadacemis<br />

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saaTiT dagvianda.<br />

mokled, es dRe CemTvis imis<br />

mikro modeli iyo, Tu rogor unda<br />

gaimarjvo agresiaze simSvidiTa da<br />

moTminebiT!<br />

_ naTqvamia, vinc iTmens, is igebso,<br />

magram mainc im Temas davu-<br />

brundebi da xelmeored gkiTxavT:<br />

Tqveni azriT, „ocneba” agresiis<br />

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merobis es konkretuli kandidati ar<br />

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siZulviliT muxtav. amitomac,<br />

xelisuflebis momavals<br />

pesimisturad vuyureb!<br />

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a Sedegebi miviReT ori 17<br />

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zogadoeba orad gaxleCili? ras<br />

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rac Semdgom warmoSobs garkveul<br />

arasasurvel procesebs. Tu<br />

ar iqneba provocireba, ra Tqma unda,<br />

ar iqneba arc Sexla-Semoxla.<br />

mxolod da mxolod provocireba<br />

warmoSobs amas, Tumca minda, yvelas<br />

movuwodo, rom aseT SemTxvevebSi<br />

aranair provokacias ar ayvnen.<br />

Tu Cveni momxre raime tipis<br />

Zaladobas ganaxorcielebs, es pirdapir<br />

mtris wisqvilze daasxams<br />

wyals da CvenTvis sasikeTo ar iqneba.<br />

mxolod samarTlebrivi Car-<br />

CoebiT unda movaxerxoT is, rom<br />

saqarTveloSi garyvnilebis zeimi,<br />

anu geipraidi da geiaRlumi ar<br />

Catardes. mosazreba maqvs, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

unda Catardes erTaderTi<br />

aRlumi da es aris saqarTvelos<br />

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis aRlumi,<br />

danarCeni aRlumi CemTvis miuRebelia.<br />

gansakuTrebiT miuRebelia<br />

geiaRlumi im teritoriaze,<br />

sadac Cveni wminda salocavebia, sadac<br />

qaSueTis, sionis taZaria, sadac<br />

im biWebis saflavebia, romlebic<br />

1921 wels saqarTvelos damoukideblobisTvis<br />

ibrZodnen, iunkrebs<br />

vgulisxmob; sadac 9 aprils<br />

daRupuli adamianebis memorialia.<br />

anu am wminda adgilebSi, rodesac<br />

cdilob, rom ori mamakaci gaataro,<br />

romlebic erTmaneTs Sua qu-<br />

CaSi tuCebSi hkocnis, ra Tqma unda,<br />

Tavidanve ukve provokatori xar<br />

imitom, rom Zalian kargad ici, saqarTvelo<br />

aris evropuli, magram,<br />

amavdroulad, kavkasiuri Rirebulebis<br />

matarebeli qveyana da am<br />

SemTxvevaSi garkveul agresiul<br />

pasuxs miiReb. ar unda gaakeTo es<br />

iq, sadac miuRebelia, Tumca eseni<br />

mizanmimarTulad provocireben.<br />

maT es SeuZliaT, absoluturad<br />

sxva garemoSi da sxvanairad gaake-<br />

Ton, magram ara! _ maT geiaRlumis<br />

gamarTva undaT. saerTod, „qarTulma<br />

marSma” da arc erTma organizaciam<br />

rom ar iarsebobs, TviTon<br />

qarTuli sazogadoeba da qarTveli<br />

ar dauSvebs amas. es aris mTavari,<br />

rom aravin dauSvebs rusTavelis<br />

gamzirze an Tundac nebismier<br />

sxva adgilas quCaSi mamakacebma<br />

erTmaneTs dauwyon xvevna-kocna<br />

da mtlaSa-mtluSi. amas aravin<br />

sandro bregaZe:<br />

dauSvebs da es maT Zalian kargad<br />

unda icodnen.<br />

_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs, mamakaci<br />

mamakacs dauwyebs xvevna-koc-<br />

nas Tu qali _ mamakacs? nebismier<br />

SemTxvevaSi maT aqvT konstituciuri<br />

ufleba, gadaadgildnen, sadac<br />

moesurvebaT da rogorc moe-<br />

survebaT, problemas sad xedavT?<br />

_ konstituciuri ufleba nebismier<br />

adamians aqvs, rom dediSobila<br />

iaros quCaSi. Tqven kargad<br />

geCvenebaT is, rom zafxulSi sicxea<br />

da mTelma saqarTvelom gaixados<br />

tansacmeli da dediSobila<br />

iaros? qalebmac da kacebma rom<br />

iaron ase, kargad geCvenebaT? xom<br />

aris raRac moralur-zneobrivi<br />

kriteriumebi, romelsac kontituciis<br />

gareSe ar gadavdivarT, ar<br />

vakeTebT. metsac getyviT: CemTvis<br />

isic miuRebelia, gogom da biWma<br />

quCaSi erTmaneTs tuCebSi rom akocon,<br />

magram amas namdvilad ver Sevadareb<br />

imas, rom mamakacebma igive<br />

gaakeTon. es am konteqstidan absoluturad<br />

amovardnilia. magali-<br />

Tad, konstitucia ar krZalavs,<br />

rom adamianebi quCaSi seqsiT dakavdnen,<br />

Tumca arsebobs moralurzneobrivi<br />

kriteriumebi, romelsc<br />

kacobroba dRemde icavs da amiT<br />

`saqarTveloSi unda Catardes<br />

erTaderT aRlumi da es aris<br />

saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli<br />

Zalebis aRlumi~<br />

`qristianul<br />

samyaroSi<br />

saqarTvelo<br />

erTaderTi<br />

qveyanaa, sadac<br />

geiaRlumi<br />

arasdros<br />

Catardeba~<br />

ganvsxvavdebiT cxovelebisgan, rom<br />

aseT raRacebs ar vakeTebT, Torem<br />

bevri ramea, rac kanonSi ar aris<br />

gawerili.<br />

_ am adamianebis moTxovna ar<br />

aris rusTavelis gamzirze seqsiT<br />

dakaveba. isini, rogorc Tavad<br />

amboben, sakuTari RirsebisTvis<br />

ibrZvian...<br />

_ maTi mTavari moTxovnaa, rom<br />

gaiaron rusTavelis gamzirze da,<br />

faqtobrivad, rusTavelis gamziris<br />

okupacia moaxdinon. mec kargad<br />

vici da Tqvenc kargad mogexsenebaT,<br />

rom amas qarTveli xalxi ar<br />

dauSvebs, sul rom arc erTi organizacia<br />

ar darCes, maT Soris,<br />

„qarTuli marSic”. wlebia, maT<br />

ofisebi aqvT gaxsnili da muSaoben.<br />

aravin Sevardnila maTTan. seqsualuri<br />

umciresobis warmomadgeneli<br />

sakmaod bevri adamiani aris<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobaSi, parlamentSi,<br />

isini, ubralod, ar aRiareben,<br />

rom seqsualuri umciresobis<br />

warmomadgenlebi arian. Tu maT<br />

hgoniaT, rom es ar aris sasircxvilo<br />

saqme, maSin gamovidnen mTavrobis,<br />

parlamentis wevrebi, politikosebi<br />

da aRiaron TavianTi<br />

seqsualuri orientaciis Sesaxeb,<br />

iseve rogorc es gaakeTes germaniaSi,<br />

safrangeTsa da sxva qveyneb-<br />

Si. Cvens qveyanaSi amas ar aRiareben,<br />

sakmaod komfortulad da la-<br />

Rad cxovroben. maT aravin uvardeba<br />

kabinetebSi da aravin Zaladobs<br />

maTze, magram isini aqeT axdenen<br />

Zaladobas qarTul sazogadoebaze.<br />

Tuki komunistebis epoqaSi arsebobda<br />

vladimir leninis mier<br />

dawyebuli cnobili wiTeli terori,<br />

dRes Cven cisferi teroris<br />

epoqaSi vcxovrobT, magaliTad,<br />

konservatorulad moazrovne politikosebsa<br />

da sazogado moRvaweebs,<br />

erTi-ori gamonaklisis garda,<br />

daxSuli gvaqvs absoluturad<br />

yvela sainformacio saSualeba.<br />

Cven ver vawvdiT Cvens azrs sazogadoebas.<br />

es yvelaferi xdeba lgbtq<br />

organizaciebisa da lgbtq aqtivistebis<br />

pirdapiri brZanebiT.<br />

patriarqma, ojaxis siwmindis dResTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, gamoacxada<br />

koncerti. es ubralod koncertia.<br />

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erTnairsqesianTa qorwinebas~<br />

yvela xvdeboda, rom ar iqneboda<br />

lozungebi da raime saxis mowodebebi,<br />

Tumca lgbtq aqtivistebi<br />

momRerlebs daemuqrnen, rom Tu<br />

isini am koncertze wavidodnen,<br />

maT iseve gaufuWebdnen saqmes,<br />

rogor, Tavis droze, Tamar ivers<br />

gaufuWes. aris Tu ara es zewola,<br />

SantaJi, Zaladoba, rodesac adamians,<br />

momRerals, ukrZalav mivides<br />

sapatriarqoSi, samebis sakaTedro<br />

taZarSi da Tavisi xelovneba aCvenos<br />

simReriT?! amitomac vambob,<br />

rom dRes gvaqvs cisferi terori.<br />

_ im koncertze misvla da sim-<br />

Rera, garkveulwilad, niSnavs,<br />

rom lgbtq Temis warmomadgen-<br />

lebis mimarT ar gamoxataven<br />

solidarobas koncertSi monawileebi.<br />

Tamriko WoxoneliZem zustad<br />

axsna, ratom ar miiRo monawileoba,<br />

rasac sazogadoebis mxri-<br />

dan Zalian pozitiuri reaqcia<br />

moyva. dasawyisSic amas geubne-<br />

bodiT, rom sapatriarqos mxridan<br />

17 maisis ojaxis siwmindis dRed<br />

gamocxadeba xom ar iwvevs agresiis<br />

gaRvivebas-meTqi? Tundac koncertTan<br />

dakavSirebiT dapiri-<br />

spirebis axali talRa wamovida..<br />

_ aq logikas ver vxedav. e. i. ra<br />

gamodis, rom 17 maiss sapatriarqom<br />

rom dagegmos koncerti, masSi<br />

monawileoba agresias aRvivebs? Tu<br />

monawileoba ar aRvivebs agresias,<br />

maSin ratom ukrZalaven, ratom<br />

eubnebian lgbtq Temis warmomadgenlebi<br />

xelovanebs, rom ar miiRon<br />

monawileoba? rodesac gamodixar<br />

lgbtq organizaciis xelmZRvaneli<br />

da pirdapir ambob, Tu am koncert-<br />

Si monawileobas miiReb, igives dagmarTeb,<br />

rac Tamar ivers daemarTa,<br />

ucxoeTSi yvelanair gzas Cagiketavo,<br />

es ukve imas niSnavs, rom xelovan<br />

adamians Tavze axvev saku-<br />

Tar mosazrebas da, faqtobrivad,<br />

ukrZalav RonisZiebaSi monawileobas.<br />

swored es aris mTavari, rom<br />

am koncertis SemTxvevaSic lgbtq<br />

organizaciebis warmomadgenlebisgan<br />

agresia modioda. es agresia ki<br />

moedineba mTel farTo sazogadoebaSi.<br />

saerTod ar amoeRoT xma<br />

koncerTTan dakavSirebiT, iqneb,<br />

vinme Tavisi surviliT ambobda<br />

uars an, iqneb, viRac Tanxmdeboda<br />

am koncertze, Tumca koncertTan<br />

dakavSirebiT azrTa sxvadasxvaoba<br />

mas Semdeg gaCnda, rac monawileebs<br />

pirdapir ultimatumi wauyenes,<br />

rom vinc am koncertSi miiRebda<br />

monawileobas, mas „Tamar ivers”<br />

damarTebdnen. koncertSi monawileebi<br />

ki xelovanebi arian, yvelas<br />

marTlmadideblobasa da Tavganwirvas<br />

ver mosTxov. isini SeSindnen<br />

da daemorCilnen lgbtq-s<br />

diqtaturas. isini gaxdnen lgbtqs<br />

diqtaturis monebi da maT uari<br />

ganacxades am koncertSi monawileobaze.<br />

es, daaxloebiT, imas hgavs,<br />

rodesac wiTeli teroris period-<br />

Si xelovnebis muSakebi uars ambobdnen<br />

garkveuli disidentebis<br />

gamoSvebaze xelis mowerisgan, mxolod<br />

da mxolod, imitom, rom maT<br />

sabWoTa kavSirSi yvelanairi gza<br />

eqnebodaT daxSobili. dRes es meordeba<br />

_ wiTeli Secvala cisferma,<br />

sxva aranairi gansxvaveba ar<br />

aris.<br />

_ is, rom Tundac mTavrobis<br />

warmomadgenlebs esircxvilebaT<br />

sakuTari gansxvavebuli orientaciis<br />

aRiareba, amaSi sazogadoe-<br />

bis problemas ver xedavT? es<br />

adamianebi, viszec Tqven ambobT,<br />

rom provokacias awyoben, swored<br />

`patriarqma, ojaxis siwmindis dResTan dakavSirebiT, gamoacxada koncerti. es<br />

ubralod koncertia. yvela xvdeboda, rom ar iqneboda lozungebi da raime<br />

saxis mowodebebi, Tumca lgbtq aqtivistebi momRerlebs daemuqrnen, rom Tu<br />

isini am koncertze wavidodnen, maT iseve gaufuWebdnen saqmes, rogor, Tavis<br />

droze, Tamar ivers gaufuWes. aris Tu ara es zewola, SantaJi, Zaladoba,<br />

rodesac adamians, momRerals, ukrZalav mivides sapatriarqoSi, samebis<br />

sakaTedro taZarSi da Tavisi xelovneba aCvenos simReriT?!~<br />

imisTvis ibrZvian, rom adamianebs<br />

sakuTari gansxvavebulobis ar<br />

rcxvenodeT.<br />

_ piradad CemTvis meZavoba da<br />

mamaTmavloba samarcxvinoa. is<br />

mamaTmavlebi, romlebic dRes xelisuflebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi arian<br />

da mamaTmavlobas malaven, bevrad<br />

uzneoebi arian, vidre isini,<br />

vinc Riad acxadeben sakuTari<br />

orientaciis Sesaxeb. vinc malavs,<br />

is bevrad ufro uzneoa. isini Sei-<br />

Zleba erT dRes tradiciul sufraze<br />

sadRegrZeloebs svamdnen<br />

da piriqiT, mamaTmavlobas hkicxavdnen,<br />

meore dRes ki sodom-gomoris<br />

gzas adgebodnen. CemTvis<br />

fariseveli bevrad miuRebelia,<br />

vidre is adamiani, romelic Riad<br />

gamoxatavs Tavis pozicias. qarTuli<br />

sazogadoebisTvis bevrad ufro<br />

saSiSi arian is farisevlebi,<br />

romlebic xelisuflebaSi da mTavrobaSi<br />

mokalaTebulan, garyvnilebis<br />

morevSi CaZirulan da Zalian<br />

cud saqmes akeTeben qveyisTvis.<br />

Tu isini am orientaciis arian, gamovidnen<br />

da xmamaRla Tqvan da Tu<br />

hgoniaT, rom cud saqmes akeTeben<br />

da rcxveniaT, maSin ratom akeTeben<br />

cud saqmes?! bevrs ar unda<br />

iyos iseTi, rogoric aris, magram,<br />

ra Tqma unda, es misi brali ar<br />

aris, ubralod, ase moxda. mas unda<br />

iyos qali da aris mamakaci, an unda<br />

iyos mamakaci da aris qali. es adamiani<br />

SeiZleba mTeli cxovrebis<br />

manZilze amis gamo fsiqologiurad<br />

Sinaganad itanjebodes. es<br />

gasagebia CemTvis, magram ratom<br />

surs mas amis propagandireba da<br />

sxvac aseTive tanjvaSi Cavardes da<br />

am gzas daadges? es adamianebi adrec<br />

arsebobdnen, bevri xelovnebis<br />

muSaki iyo, ubralod, saxelsa<br />

da gvarebs ar davasaxeleb, magram<br />

isini sxvas ar axvevdnen Tavs saku-<br />

Tari cxovrebis wess. isini moRvaweobdnen,<br />

msoflioSi ganTqmuli<br />

xelovanebi iyvnen, magram ar Sedioidnen<br />

skolaSi da ar aiZulebdnen<br />

bavSvebs, biWi geis, xolo gogo<br />

lesboselis gzaze wasuliyo. rodesac<br />

adamiani aratdradiciuli<br />

orientaciis warmomadgenelia, am<br />

dros arCevnebSi monawileobs da<br />

ambobs, rom is aris tradiciebis<br />

damcveli, morwmune da qristiani,<br />

amiT iRebs xmebs, swored aseTi adamiania<br />

fariseveli. Riad rom Tqvas,<br />

homoseqsuali varo, 2 xmas ver<br />

miiRebs arCevnebSi da ver gaxdeba<br />

verc parlamentari da verc ministri,<br />

es kargad icis man, amitom<br />

TvalTmaqcobs da TvalSi nacars<br />

gvayris.<br />

_ Tqven TqviT, rom im SemTxvevaSi,<br />

Tu arCevnebze Riad ga-<br />

nacxadebs kandidati, rom lgbtq<br />

Temis warmomadgenelia, is 2<br />

xmasac ver miRebs. ar fiqrobT,<br />

rom es sazogadoebis problemaa,<br />

roca kandidats seqsualuri ori-<br />

entaciis mixedviT afasebs da ara<br />

imis mixedviT, rogori politiko-<br />

sia da ra SeiZleba gaakeTos? am<br />

damokidebulebiT xom Tavad sa-<br />

zogadoeba zaraldeba?<br />

_ vfiqrob, rom qveyana unda<br />

marTos zneobrivad mdgradma adamianebma.<br />

zneobrivi mdgradoba unda<br />

iyos erT-erTi ganmsazRvreli<br />

maSin, roca adamianebi arCevans ake-<br />

Teben. unda arsebobdes raRac kriteriumebi,<br />

romelsac politikosi<br />

unda akmayofilebdes zneobriobis<br />

kuTxiT. ar SeiZleba, adamiani iyos<br />

garyvnili da is moralze gvelaparakebodes.<br />

Cven unda moviqceT<br />

ise, rogorc Cvens ers Seefereba<br />

Tavisuflebis principidan gamomdinare,<br />

magram Tavisufleba ar<br />

niSnavs garyvnilebasa da garyvnilebis<br />

propagandas. zogierT<br />

qveyanaSi incests akanoneben. gaivlis,<br />

albaT, 4-5 weli da gamoCndebian<br />

sulierad da xorcielad avadmyofi<br />

adamianebi, romlebic Cvens<br />

qveyanaSic moindomeben incestis<br />

dakanonebas. ra vqnaT Cven, rom<br />

maTi Tavisuflebis principebi ar<br />

davarRvioT da es incesti davakanonoT?<br />

eseni ver miaRweven Cvens<br />

qveyanaSi erTsqesianTa qorwinebas,<br />

magram rom miaRwion, Semdegi nabiji<br />

iqneba incestis dakanoneba da<br />

saqarTvelos bolomde Cafvla garyvnilebis<br />

morevSi. me bednieri<br />

adamiani var, rom mTel qristianul<br />

samyaroSi saqarTvelo erTaderTi<br />

qveyanaa, oazisia, sadac geiaRlumi<br />

ar Catarebula da arc<br />

arasodes Catardeba. uzneoebi qirqileben<br />

saqarTvelos RvTismSoblis<br />

wilxvedrobaze, magram CemTvis<br />

es qveyana aris RvTismSoblis<br />

wilxvedri da swored saqarTvelodanaa<br />

SesaZlebeli daiwyos zneobrivi<br />

da moraluri Semobruneba<br />

evropaSi. miT umetes, im fonze,<br />

roca evropaSi politika absoluturad<br />

Seicvala. Cven amas ar gveubnebian,<br />

simarTles gvimalaven.<br />

evroparlamentis arCevnebSi nacionalisturi,<br />

erovnuli Zalebi<br />

imarjveben. evropaSi nacionalizmisa<br />

da erovnulobis bumia. avstriaSi<br />

nacionalisti sebastian kurcia<br />

xelisuflebis kancleri, italiis<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa ministri nacionalisturi<br />

partiis lideria,<br />

safrangeTis evroparlamentis<br />

arCevnebSi mari le penis partia<br />

5%-iT uswrebs makronis partias.<br />

holandiaSic, belgiaSic, absoluturad<br />

yvelgan, erovnulebi modian<br />

xelisuflebaSi. Cven gvacxovroben<br />

90-iani wlebis evropaSi, sadac<br />

liberalizmi yvaoda. aRar aris,<br />

damTavrda liberalizmis dro.<br />

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSic ki<br />

xelisuflebaSi movida tradiciuli<br />

Rirebulebebis matarebeli<br />

adamiani prezidentad _ donald<br />

trampi. vice-prezidenti maik pensi<br />

ki iseT gancxadebebs akeTebs,<br />

xandaxan „qarTuli marSis” wevri<br />

mgonia. aseve pompeoc gamokveTili<br />

konservatoria. am dros TvalSi<br />

nacars gvayrian da hilari klintonis<br />

droSi gvacxovreben, evropaSi<br />

damTavrda es dro.<br />

_ Tu Tqven ambobT, rom Tval-<br />

Si nacars gvayrian da 90-ian wleb-<br />

is evropaSi gvacxovreben, is, rac<br />

xdeba, mxolod propagandaa da<br />

organizaciebi grantebisTvis<br />

ibrZvian, amas ras upirispirebT,<br />

„qarTuli marSisTvis” damaxasi-<br />

aTebel agresias?<br />

_ maxsendeba donald trampis<br />

arCevnebi, rodesac mas homofobiasa<br />

da aTas rames abralebdnen, magram<br />

man gaimarjva da yvelam dainaxa,<br />

rom donald trampi arc agresiulia,<br />

arc homofobi da arc kaciWamiaa.<br />

Tumca dRemde mimdinareobs<br />

mis winaaRmdeg seriozuli<br />

brZola da dRemde aTasgvar Wors<br />

ugoreben. daaxloebiT igive mdgomareobaSia<br />

yvela nacionalisti<br />

politikosi mTel msoflioSi, maT<br />

raRac Worebs ugoreben. erTi magaliTi<br />

mainc manaxon, rodesac „qarTuli<br />

marSis” romelime wevri Seexo<br />

seqsualuri umciresobis warmomadgenels<br />

an Seuracxyofa miayena,<br />

aseTi magaliTi bunebaSi ar arsebobs.<br />

Cven Tu Cvens azrs vafiqsirebT<br />

da diskusiaSi SevdivarT,<br />

es arc Zaladobaa da arc agresia.<br />

Cven iseve vafiqsirebT Cvens azrs,<br />

rogorc sxvebi, magram maT surT,<br />

moZaladeebi gamogviyvanon.<br />

_ metsac getyviT: TaTia<br />

doliZe, romelic ar aris seqsualuri<br />

umciresobis warmomad-<br />

geneli, swored „qarTuli marSis”<br />

wevrebis mxridan iyo fsiqolo-<br />

giuri da sityvieri zewolis msx-<br />

verpli. amas riT axsniT?<br />

_ marSs, daaxloebiT, 10 000<br />

wevri hyavs, am adamianebSi Tu Ta-<br />

Tia doliZis mier Cveni misamarTiT<br />

naTqvami uxamsi gamonaTqvamebi vi-<br />

Racam ver aitana da mas Seagina, es<br />

SeiZleba CemTvis misaRebi ar iyos,<br />

magram es Zaladoba ar aris.<br />

_ mxolod Segineba ar iyo, mas<br />

marSis wevrebi gaupatiurebiT<br />

emuqrebodnen...<br />

_ „feisbuqiT” gaupatiureba sad<br />

ginaxavT? (icinis) es iyo raRac<br />

fantazia da gamobmuli kudebi,<br />

Tumca SeiZleba qalbatonma Seuracxyofa<br />

mogayenos, magram mas ar<br />

vupasuxebdi da arc mipasuxia.<br />

evropaSi aris nacionalisturi<br />

jgufebi igive fexburTis gulSematkivrebi,<br />

vxedavT, rom saswaulebi<br />

xdeba xolme. „qarTuli marSis”<br />

arc erTi warmomadgeneli TiTi-<br />

Tac ki ar Sexebia umciresobis warmomadgenels<br />

da arc vapirebT. Cven<br />

Cveni zneobiT, moraliT, politikuri<br />

SexedulebiT, Cveni mtkice<br />

suliT movipovebT gamarjvebas da<br />

araniarad ar vapirebT viRacebze<br />

xelis gadagrexas.<br />

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TbilisSi 18-dan 23 ivnisis CaTvliT<br />

„lgbtq” praidi gaimarTeba.<br />

organizatorebis TqmiT, kvireulis<br />

farglebSi sxvadasxva socialur,<br />

kulturul da politikur<br />

RonisZiebas vixilavT.<br />

kvireulis farglebSive saer-<br />

TaSoriso konferencia gaimarTeba,<br />

romelsac saqarTvelos mTavrobis,<br />

diplomatiuri korpusis,<br />

saxalxo damcvelis aparatis, sazogadoebrivi<br />

jgufebis , umciresobebze<br />

momuSave organizaciebisa<br />

da „lgbtq” Temis wevrebi daeswrebian.<br />

saerTaSoriso konferencias<br />

aseve daeswrebian sxvadasxva<br />

qveynis mTavrobis warmomadgenlebi.<br />

kvireulis farglebSi aseve<br />

franc kafkas moTxrobis mixedviT<br />

warmodgenili iqneba socialuri<br />

speqtakli. speqtakls 600 adamiani<br />

daeswreba da did Teatralur<br />

darbazSi gaimarTeba.<br />

„lgbtq” kvireuli Rirsebis<br />

marSiT dasruldeba. organizatorebis<br />

TqmiT, marSs sazeimo an<br />

karnavalis saxe ar eqneba. Rirsebis<br />

marSiT aqciis monawileebi sazogadoebas<br />

aCveneben, rom maTac<br />

awuxebT siRaribe, umuSevroba, okupacia<br />

da a. S.<br />

saprotesto msvlelobiT isini<br />

kidev erTxel gaaJRereben<br />

mesijebs, rom maT mSvidobian da<br />

araZaladobriv garemoSi surT<br />

cxovreba.<br />

„qronika+~„ Tbilisi praidis”<br />

erT-erT organizator Tamaz so-<br />

zaSvils esaubra:<br />

_ Tamaz, minda gavixsenoT 2013<br />

wlis 17 maisis mSvidobiani aqciis<br />

darbeva, dRes ra Sefaseba Se-<br />

giZliaT gaakeToT da zogadad,<br />

ra Secvala am dRem „lgbtq<br />

lgbtq”<br />

Temisa da qarTuli sazogadoeb-<br />

is cxovrebaSi?<br />

_ 2013 wlis 17 maisis aqciis<br />

organizatori da monawile ar vyofilvar,<br />

im dros Zalian patara<br />

viyavi. Tumca kadrebi nanaxi maqvs<br />

da informacias vflob Cemi megobrebisgan,<br />

aqtivistebisgan, Tanam-<br />

Sromlebisgan Tu ra xdeboda im<br />

dros aqciaze. Cemi SefasebiT, es<br />

iyo kargi lustracia eklesiisa,<br />

Tu rogori fariseveli SeiZleba<br />

iyos is. qarTulma sazogadoebam<br />

dainaxa sasuliero pirebis mier<br />

darazmuli adamianebi, rogor misdevdnen<br />

mSvidobiani aqciis aTeulobiT<br />

monawiles Casaqolad. bunebrivia,<br />

es umZimesi aqcia iyo da<br />

dRemde mtkivneulia qarTveli<br />

qviar (qviari _ gansxvavebuli;<br />

heteronormatiul<br />

wesrigs<br />

radikalurad dapirispirebuli<br />

aqtivisti, _ red.) adamianebisTvis<br />

da qviar aqtivistebisTvis<br />

es dRe gasaxseneblad. 2013 wlis<br />

17 maisma udidesi fsiqologiuri<br />

travmebi miayena adamianebs da gansakuTrebiT<br />

maT, vinc yviTel avtobusebSi<br />

imyofeboda. es ar iyo<br />

arc erTi normalurad moazrovne<br />

adamianisTvis mSvidad sayurebe-<br />

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`17 maiss yovelTvis gagvaxsendeba<br />

2019 wlis 17 maisi, SeiZleba<br />

2019 wlis 17 maisi, SeiZleba<br />

levan qemokliZe<br />

iTqvas, mSvidobianad dasrulda,<br />

593 16 01 40<br />

radgan am dRes „lgbtq” aqtiv-<br />

istebma RonisZiebis gamarTvaze<br />

uari Tqves. maTi SefasebiT, „homofobiasTan da transfobiasTan<br />

brZolis dRe politikurma da religiurma eqstremistulma<br />

jgufebma miisakuTres da „lgbtq” adamianebisTvis qu-<br />

CaSi usafrTxo sivrce aRar datoves~.<br />

li. mniSvnelovania, rogor ganvi-<br />

Tarda am dRis Semdeg movlenebi!<br />

_ sapatriaqo organizatori iyo<br />

Zaladobisa da is, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />

TanamSromlobda qarTul saxelmwifosTan...<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ saxelmwifom, erTi mxriv, ar<br />

gamoiyena yvela berketi da resursi,<br />

raTa daecva aqciis monawileebi...<br />

policiam Tavad gaxsna<br />

derefani da moZalade adamianTa<br />

jgufi gauSva aqciis monawileebis<br />

mimarTulebiT. es yvelaferi<br />

kadrebSi Cans, romelic asaxavs im<br />

sisatikes, rac 2013 wels xdeboda<br />

TbilisSi. ra moxda amis Semdeg?<br />

2014 wels, imis nacvlad, rom sapatriarqos<br />

es yvelaferi gaeazrebiana<br />

da xmamaRla eTqva ZaladobisTvis<br />

ara! _ miviReT ojaxis<br />

siwmindis dRe... es aris niRbis qveS<br />

dakanonebuli Cagvra qviar adamianebis<br />

winaaRmdeg, imitom rom maT<br />

17 maisi wagvarTves.<br />

_ saxelmwifos mxridan ramdenad<br />

adekvaturi iyo samarTlebrivi<br />

Sefaseba im Zaladobaze,<br />

rac 2013 wlis 17 maiss vixi-<br />

leT?<br />

_ saqalaqo sasamarTlom gaamarTla<br />

erT-erTi sasuliero piri,<br />

romelic „taburetkiT” misdevda<br />

aqciis monawileebs da aseve is<br />

ramdenime adamiani, romelic uSualod<br />

ZaladobaSi iyo braldebuli.<br />

maT minimaluri jarimebi (100<br />

lari) daekisraT. am faqtebma cxadyo<br />

saxelmwifos pozicia, rom im<br />

periodSi ar iyo politikur neba,<br />

saxelmwifos xmamaRla eTqva: „lgbtq”<br />

adamianebi arian Cveni sazogadoebis<br />

srulfasovani wevrebi<br />

da maT SeuZliaT isargeblon<br />

yvela im uflebiT, romliTac<br />

sargebloben saqarTvelos sxva<br />

moqalaqeebi.<br />

_ sapatriarqos gancxadebebs<br />

Tu gadavxedavT, is ambobs, rom<br />

emijneba yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />

Tumca viTareba ar icvleba...<br />

_ sxvaTa Soris, es tendencia<br />

mec SevamCnie, axali narativi Semoitanes<br />

da amboben, rom isini emijnebian<br />

yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />

Tumca, amave dros, amboben, rom<br />

isini pasuxismgeblobas ver aiReben<br />

imaze, Tuki Zaladobis faqtebi<br />

moxdeba maT mier organizebul<br />

RonisZiebebze. SeiZleba raRacebi<br />

gaiazres kidevac, ar vici... 2013<br />

wlis 17 maisma, garkveulwilad,<br />

maTzec imoqmeda negatiurad,<br />

radgan aCvenes, Tu rogori Zaladobrivi<br />

institutia sapatriarqo „lgbtq”<br />

Temis mimarT. Zalian bevri<br />

adamianisTvis es dRe iyo Sokismomgrveli,<br />

vinc manamde cota neitralurad<br />

iyo ganwyobili „lgbtq”<br />

Temis mimarT. dainaxes, rom<br />

is Zaladoba Tavidan bolomde<br />

provocirebuli iyo eklesiis warmomadgenlebis<br />

mier da 17 maiss<br />

yovelTvis gagvaxsendeba „taburetkiani”<br />

mRvdeli. SesaZloa vivaraudod,<br />

rom raRacebi Tavad<br />

Tamaz sozaSvili:<br />

`sapatriaqo<br />

organizatori iyo<br />

Zaladobisa da is,<br />

SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />

TanamSromlobda<br />

qarTul<br />

saxelmwifosTan...~<br />

sapatriarqoSic gadaiazres, Tumca,<br />

meore mxriv, ver Tmoben Zalauflebas,<br />

radgan es Temebi maT-<br />

Tvis Zalauflebis SenarCunebis<br />

instrumentia; Zalauflebis<br />

demonstraciis saSualeba, rom<br />

yovel 17 maiss adamianebi quCaSi<br />

gamoiyvanon da, raRacnairad, maT-<br />

Tvis es dRe dakanonda Cagvris instrumentad,<br />

raTa gavlenebi<br />

hqondeT konkretul jgufebsa da<br />

institutebze.<br />

_ politikuri speqtri Zalian<br />

xSirad borotad iyenebs „lbgtq”<br />

Temis problemebs qulebis dasaw-<br />

erad, rogor fiqrobT, ratom?<br />

_ yvela gamokiTxviT qveynis<br />

mosaxleobis umravlesoba, umTavressa<br />

da umniSvnelovanes problemebs<br />

Soris gamoarCevs: siRaribes,<br />

umuSevrobasa da okupacias.<br />

es aris is ZiriTadi sami<br />

problema, romelic saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeebs awuxebs, Sesabamisad,<br />

politikosebs, romlebsac ar<br />

gaaCniaT politikuri neba an ar<br />

SeuZliaT problemebis mogvareba,<br />

isini sul sxva rames sTavazoben<br />

mosaxleobas da xelovnurad<br />

aRviveben SuRls, zizRsa da agresias<br />

„lgbtq” adamianebis mimarT,<br />

raTa mTavari problemebi gadafaron.<br />

amis naTeli magaliTia sakonstitucio<br />

Canaweri qorwinebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, rom es<br />

aris qalisa da mamakacis erToba.<br />

es sakiTxi ar dgas da arc idga<br />

qviar adamianebis dRis wesrigSi,<br />

Tundac samoqalaqo partnioroba,<br />

an qorwinebis Tanasworoba, imitom<br />

rom Cven Zalian bevri sxva<br />

problemis winaSe vdgavarT, Tumca<br />

xelovnurad wamowies, radgan<br />

es iyo maTi winasaarCevno kampania.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom arsebuli<br />

kanonmdebloba isedac ar gvaZlevda<br />

qorwinebis an samoqalaqo partniorobis<br />

SesaZleblobas, ubralod,<br />

politikosebma damatebiTi<br />

garantiebi Semoitanes da yvelas<br />

gvaxsovs, rogor dadiodnen ganxilvebze.<br />

aseve 19 maiss gamarTulma<br />

Sualedurma arCevnebma naTlad<br />

aCvena, rom mxolod siZulvilsa<br />

da homofobiaze agebul saarCevno<br />

kampanias warmateba ar moaqvs!<br />

„lgbtq” adamianebis Cagvra da gandevna<br />

sajaro sivrceebidan ar agvarebs<br />

im gamowvevebs, ris winaSec<br />

saqarTvelos mosaxleobis didi<br />

umravlesoba dgas. es unda iyos<br />

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`taburetkiani mRvdeli~<br />

gakveTili sxva politikuri jgufebisTvisac,<br />

raTa samomavlod<br />

realuri problemebis gadaWraze<br />

mimarTon Zalisxmeva. koba davi-<br />

TaSvilma 3%-ic ver aiRo, misi<br />

winasaarCevno kampania ki srulad<br />

iyo homofobiasa da trasfobiaze<br />

agebuli.<br />

_ da mainc, ratom ar aRiniSna<br />

wlevandel wels 17 maisi?<br />

_ am kiTxvaze sruyofil pasuxs<br />

ver gagcemT, amaze saTemo organizaciebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi isaubreben.<br />

me gesaubrebiT, rogorc<br />

„Tbilisi praidis” erT-erTi organizatori<br />

da Cveni pozicia ase-<br />

Tia: Cven ukve organizebas vuwevT<br />

Zalian did da mniSvnelovan RonisZiebas<br />

_ kvireuls. imdenad bevri<br />

ram sWirdeba am yvelafris organizebas,<br />

fizikurad dro da<br />

resursi aRar gvqonda, 17 maiszec<br />

gvezruna. Cemi piradi pozicia ki<br />

aseTia: yvelasTvis cnobilia, rom<br />

17 maisi homofobiasTan, bifobiasTan<br />

da transfobiasTan brZolis<br />

saerTaSoriso dRea. 2014 wlidan<br />

ki patriarqis iniciativiT mar-<br />

Tlmadidebeli eklesia „ojaxis<br />

siwmindis dRes” aRniSnavs. SeiZleba<br />

iTqvas, rom es dRe, realurad,<br />

eklesiam wagvarTva. e. w. ojaxis<br />

siwmindis dRed SefuTes, TiTqos<br />

isini emijnebian yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />

magram sazogadobis didma<br />

nawilma kargad dainaxa, rom es<br />

aris dakanonebuli Cagvra da si-<br />

Zulvili „lgbtq” Temis mimarT da<br />

amas cxadyofs im cnobili adamianebis<br />

uari, sapatriarqos mier<br />

organizebul sazeimo koncertSi<br />

mieRoT monawileoba. sazogadoebis<br />

nawilma da cnobilma momRerlebma<br />

gaiazres, rom es realurad<br />

iyo dakanonebuli Cagvra da<br />

Zaladoba „lgbtq” pirebis mimarT.<br />

faqtobrivad homofobiasTan, bifobiasTan<br />

da transfobiasTan<br />

brZolis saerTaSoriso dRes sajaro<br />

sivrcidan gagvaZeves _ welsac<br />

da SarSanac mogviwia, partizanulad<br />

migvewvdina xma sazogadoebisTvis<br />

da saxelmwifosTvis.<br />

„Tbilis praidma” wlevandeli 17<br />

maisisTvis, Tavis mxriv, gamoaqveyna<br />

gzavnili videos saxiT: „Cven<br />

gvinda, vicxovroT mSvidobian,<br />

araZaladobriv, Semdgar sazogadoebaSi,<br />

romelSic yvela daculia.<br />

Cven vebrZviT usamarTlobas,<br />

yvela Cagruli jgufis mimarT<br />

varT solidarulebi. Cven ar vapirebT<br />

damalvas, ase cxovreba<br />

gausaZlisia. Cven vibrZviT RirsebisTvis,<br />

Cven ar varT cota da<br />

aravis davtovebT marto”. video-<br />

Si Temis wevrebis mesijebi mkafio<br />

iyo sazogadoebisa da politikosebis<br />

mimarT. ai, es aris Cemi pozicia,<br />

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom Cven<br />

varT dakanonebuli Cagvris momswre<br />

da CvenTvis yoveli weli<br />

brZolaa. saxelmwifo aranair efetian<br />

nabijebs ar dgams, Tundac im<br />

agresiuli, faSisturi dajgufebebis<br />

qmedebeze. es agresias axalisebs.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi aseTi mocemuloba<br />

gvaqvs: sapatriarqo ambobs,<br />

rom emijneba yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />

„qarTuli marSic” igives<br />

imeorebs da gmobs yovelgvar<br />

Zaladobas, Tumca faqtia, rom<br />

Cven gareT ver gavdivarT...<br />

_ ratom gaxda saWiro kvireulis<br />

gakeTeba ivnisSi? rogor mim-<br />

dinareobs kvireulis samzadisi<br />

da rogori iqneba pirveli<br />

qarTuli praidi? Tqven mier<br />

`19 maiss gamarTulma Sualedurma arCevnebma<br />

naTlad aCvena, rom mxolod siZulvilsa da<br />

homofobiaze agebul saarCevno kampanias<br />

warmateba ar moaqvs! `lgbtq~ adamianebis Cagvra<br />

da gandevna sajaro sivrceebidan ar agvarebs<br />

im gamowvevebs, ris winaSec saqarTvelos<br />

mosaxleobis didi umravlesoba dgas~<br />

gavrcelebul gancxadebaSi weria,<br />

rom es ar iqneba sazeimo msv-<br />

leloba.<br />

_ iqidan gamomdinare, rom bolo<br />

ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

„lgbtq” adamianebs ar gveZleoda<br />

Tavisuflad Sekrebisa da manifestaciiT<br />

sargeblobis ufleba,<br />

radgan sapatriarqom ojaxis siwmindis<br />

dRe daawesa da xelovnurad<br />

gamogvdevna sajaro sivrcidan...<br />

yovel 17 maiss mudmivi<br />

dapirispirebis sagani iyo, vin<br />

romel adgils daikavebda am<br />

dRes, amitom aqtivistebis nawilma<br />

gadavwyviteT, ivnisSi gagveke-<br />

Tebina praidis kvireuli. kvireuli<br />

Sedgeba sami mTavari RonisZiebisgan:<br />

es aris saerTaSoriso<br />

konferencia, socialuri Teatri<br />

da Rirsebis marSi... Rirsebis mar-<br />

Si ar iqneba sazeimo da karnavalis<br />

saxiT warmodgenili, es iqneba,<br />

ZiriTadad, politikuri mesijebiT<br />

datvirTuli saprotesto<br />

xasiaTis msvleloba. Cveni mizania,<br />

„lgbtq” adamianebs saSualeba<br />

mogveces, rom visargebloT Sekrebisa<br />

da manifestaciis uflebiT,<br />

rac Cveni konstituciuri uflebaa,<br />

romliTac ver vsargeblobT<br />

bolo ramdenime welia. ratom<br />

davaanonseT 4 TviT adre kvreuli?<br />

imitom, rom sazogadoebis<br />

garkveul jgufs, romelic neitralurad<br />

aris ganwyobili, mivawodoT<br />

swori informacia, ra aris<br />

praidi, ra formiT tardeba igi da<br />

a. S.<br />

_ Tumca socialur qselSi<br />

garkveuli jgufebisgan muqaris<br />

Semcvleli gancxadebebi keTde-<br />

ba. usafTxoebis ra garantiebi<br />

miiReT saxelmwifos mxridan?<br />

_ es adamianebi arian marginaluri<br />

jgufebi, ruseTis interesebis<br />

gamtareblebi Cvens qveyana-<br />

Si. maT ukve gasca sazogadobam<br />

sakadrisi pasuxi. aseve pasuxs gascems<br />

sandro bregaZes... Cven vnaxeT<br />

bolo periodSi mis mier organizebul<br />

aqciebze, mcire raodenobis<br />

adamianebi gamodian, radgan<br />

xalxi xvdeba, rom homofobiiT da<br />

adamianebis CagvriT sakuTar<br />

mdgomarebas ver gaiumjobesebs!<br />

sandro bregaZe adamianebs Zaladobisken<br />

mouwodebs, daCagron da<br />

iZaladon meore jgufze, rac,<br />

bunebrivia, ver agvarebs mosaxleobis<br />

umravlesobis problemebs: es<br />

aris siRaribe da umuSevroba. is<br />

cdilobs, rom gadafaros es problemebi.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi Sss-s roli<br />

umniSnvelovanesia, maT unda<br />

gaataron efeqtiani RonisZiebebi,<br />

gasakuTrebiT praidis wina periodSi.<br />

yovel sajarod dafiqsirebul<br />

da gamoTqmul muqaraze maT<br />

unda hqondeT adekvaturi reagireba,<br />

raTa maTi Zaladobrivi<br />

mowodebebi da qmedebebi ar waxalisdes.<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa saminitrosTan<br />

mimdinareobs molaparakebebi.<br />

is amjerad usafrTxoebis<br />

gegmaze muSaobs. vfiqrob, Sinagan<br />

saqmeTa saminitro yvelafers<br />

gaakeTebs, rom Rirsebis mar-<br />

Sis TiToeuli monawilis usafrTxoeba<br />

daculi iyos.<br />

_ Tumca usafrTxoebis Tval-<br />

sazrisiT riskebic arsebobs...<br />

_ ra Tqma unda! swored amitom,<br />

jer kidev, aqtiurad mimdinareobs<br />

Ss saministrosTan molaparakebebi.<br />

Cven movismineT mamuka<br />

baxtaZis gancxadeba, aseve mTavrobis<br />

sxva warmomadgenlebisgan,<br />

rom Sinagan saqmeTa saministro da<br />

saqarTvelos mTavroba yvelafers<br />

gaakeTebs da akeTebs, rom „lgbtq”<br />

adamianebis Sekrebisa da manifestaciis<br />

ufleba daculi iyos, xolo<br />

Cveni usafrTxoeba _ maqsimalurad<br />

garantirebuli. bolo ramdenime<br />

welia, aqtiurad viyavi<br />

CarTuli 17 maisis organizebaSi<br />

da SemiZlia vTqva, „Tbilisi praidis”<br />

usafrTxoebis gegmaze muSaoba<br />

daiwyo, jer kidev, 2018 wels.<br />

daanonsebamde ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />

sakmaod aqtiurad<br />

vmuSaobdiT da damoukidebeli<br />

samoqmedo gegmac gvaqvs _ vgulisxmob<br />

usafrTxoebis gegmas, sadac<br />

met-naklebad yvela riski<br />

gaTvlilia. aseTi mobilizacia da<br />

momzadeba usafrTxoebis kuTxiT<br />

aqamde ar maxsovs. organizebis<br />

sakmaod mdidari gamocdileba<br />

gvaqvs. swored amitom gavwieT<br />

„Tbilisi praidis” daanonsebamde<br />

didi Sroma. samoqmedo gegmas<br />

mivyvebiT da amasTanave daviwyeT<br />

Sss-sTan molaprakebebi, romelic<br />

jer ar dasrulebula da, bunebrivia,<br />

grZeldeba.<br />

_ Zalian didi interesi arsebobs,<br />

Tu sad gaimarTeba „Rirse-<br />

bis marSis” msvleloba...<br />

_ jerjerobiT cnobili ar<br />

iqneba, Tu sad gaimarTeba Rirsebis<br />

marSi... es ar iqneba rusTavelis<br />

gamziri, Tumca davadastureb,<br />

rom Rirsebis marSi iqneba<br />

Tbilisis centralur gamzirze.<br />

amis Sesaxeb informacias uaxloes<br />

momavalSi ar gavavrcelebT.<br />

cnobisTvis: 1969 wlis ivnisSi<br />

amerikaSi „stounvolis” ajanyeba<br />

daiwyo. quCaSi gamosuli geebis,<br />

lesboselebis, transgenderebisa<br />

da biseqsualebis spontanuri<br />

mrisxaneba „lgbt” uflebebisTvis<br />

brZolis fundamenti gaxda mTel<br />

msoflioSi. „stounvolis” janyidan<br />

erTi wlis aRsaniSnavad, 1970<br />

wlis 28 ivniss, msoflioSi pirveli<br />

praidi gaimarTa. praidis aRniSvna<br />

droTa ganmavlobaSi amerikis<br />

TiTqmis yvela did qalaqSi<br />

daiwyo. 1999 wlis 11 ivniss, aSS-is<br />

maSindelma prezidentma bil klintonma,<br />

ivnisi praidis Tved oficialurad<br />

gamoacxada. dRes praidi<br />

yvela kontinentze, aTobiT<br />

qveyanaSi aRiniSneba. iq, sadac homofobiuri<br />

ganwyobebi naklebia,<br />

praidma karnavaluri, gasarTobi,<br />

komerciuli da turistuli datvirTva<br />

SeiZina, risTvisac organizatorebs<br />

„politikuri fesvebis<br />

daviwyebisTvis” akritikeben kidec,<br />

Tumca sxvadasxva qveyanaSi praidi<br />

adgilobriv konteqsts moergo<br />

da RonisZiebis mTavari saTqmeli<br />

kvlav uflebebisTvis brZolaa.<br />

aTobiT qveyanas wels pirvelad<br />

saqarTveloc SeuerTdeba.<br />

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skandaluri finansuri piramida<br />

gasuli wlis aprilis dasawyis-<br />

giorgi abaSiZe<br />

Si gavrcelda informacia, rom<br />

gorSi safinanso kompania „evrok-<br />

reditis” damfuZnebeli daakaves. maSin goris saTemo radio<br />

„mozaika” imasac iuwyeboda, rom qeTevan yayitaSvils sasamarT-<br />

lom 2-Tviani winaswari patimroba Seufarda.<br />

„yayitaSvili finansTa saministros<br />

sagamoZiebo samsaxurma<br />

daakava da 182-e muxlis mixedviT<br />

wauyena brali, rac Tanxebis miTvisebas<br />

gulisxmobs. saqmis ganxilva<br />

sasamarTlom ukve daiwyo.<br />

„evrokreditSi” finansuri<br />

krizisi 2016 wlis dekemberSi, safinanso<br />

kompania „saqarTvelos”<br />

gakotrebis Semdeg daiwyo. am<br />

faqtma meanabreebSi kompaniis mimarT<br />

undobloba gamoiwvia da<br />

ramdenime aTeulma adamianma „evrokreditidan”<br />

Tanxis gatana erTdroulad<br />

moisurva da dazaralebulebis<br />

umravlesobam samarTlebrivi<br />

dava maSinve daiwyo.<br />

radio „mozaika” braldebuls<br />

dakavebamde 2 TviT adre esaubra.<br />

qeTevan yayitaSvili maSin mokvlevis<br />

dasrulebasa da dokumentaciis<br />

Cabarebas elodeboda, ris<br />

Semdegac is dazaralebulebis dakmayofilebas<br />

etapobrivad gegmavda.<br />

am mizniT man gorSi, samefos<br />

quCaze, ofisic gaxsna. meanabreebis<br />

nawili misi dakavebis momxre<br />

ar iyo da Tanxebis dabrunebas<br />

elodeboda”, _ iuwyeboda 2018<br />

wlis aprilSi radio „mozaika”.<br />

bolo wlebSi finansuri problemebi<br />

araerT safinanso kompanias<br />

Seeqmna da am fonze gamonaklisi<br />

arc „evrokrediti” unda yofiliyo,<br />

magram dazaralebulTa<br />

nawili, romelic „qronika+”-s<br />

daukavSirda, eWvobs, rom TaRli-<br />

Turi sqemis msxverpli gaxda.<br />

amasTan, erT-erTi qalbatoni,<br />

romelmac inkognitod darCena<br />

isurva da romelTan interviusac,<br />

principSi, ucvlelad gTavazobT,<br />

yuradRebas amaxvilebs „evrokretis”<br />

gavlenian mfarvelebze da<br />

gveubneba, rom qeTevan yayitaSvils,<br />

savaraudod, susis ufrosis<br />

yofili moadgile, soso gogaSvili<br />

„kriSavda”. amis gamo yayitaSvils<br />

SedarebiT msubuqi sasjeli<br />

misces da arc dazaralebulTa<br />

davalianebis anazRaureba daakisres.<br />

aqve sainteresoa, rom „evrokreditis”<br />

erT-erTma meanabrem<br />

Tavi moikla, Tumca, rogorc<br />

„qronika+”-is respondenti gveubneba,<br />

yayitaSvils arc TviTmkvlelobamde<br />

miyvanis muxliT wauyenes<br />

brali, rac, saboloo jam-<br />

Si, amZafrebs eWvs, rom mas mfarvelebi<br />

hyavs.<br />

„evrokreditis” dazaralebu-<br />

li meanabre qalbatoni:<br />

_ minda, rom inkognitod<br />

davrCe da ar SeiZleba?<br />

_ ki batono, araa problema,<br />

Tumca detalurad miambeT, ra<br />

SegemTxvaT?<br />

_ gorSi Sps „evrokrediti” mu-<br />

Saobda da misi erT-erTi meanabre<br />

var. 2016 wlis dekembridan am kompanias<br />

krizisi daewyo da davzaraldiT.<br />

_ anu „evrokreditSi” Tanxa<br />

gqondaT Setanili?<br />

_ diax, Tanxa me da, daaxloebiT,<br />

samasze met adamians gvqonda<br />

Setanili.<br />

_ „evrokreditSi” piradad<br />

Tqven Tanxa rodis SeitaneT?<br />

_ 2013-Si, 2014-Si, anu etapobrivad<br />

Semqonda.<br />

_ sul ra odenobis Tanxa Sei-<br />

taneT?<br />

_ piradad Cemi Tanxa 12 500<br />

dolaria.<br />

_ Tavidanve upiratesoba am<br />

Sps-s ratom mianiWeT da ara _<br />

banks?<br />

_ cuds ver vityvi: es qalbatoni<br />

kargad muSaobda. iq molare<br />

Cemi megobari iyo da rekomendacia<br />

man gauwia. radgan Cemi axlobeli<br />

iyo, raRacnairad, mivende.<br />

_ „evrokreditisgan” rame<br />

sargebeli gqondaT?<br />

_ ki, gvqonda.<br />

_ konkretulad?<br />

_ xelSekruleba mogvces. am<br />

qalbatons samxedro baraTebi<br />

hqonda, anu samxedroebTan hqonda<br />

xelSekruleba dadebuli...<br />

pirvel etapze aseve oqros lombardi<br />

da manqanebis lizingic<br />

hqonda. hoda, muSaobda _ dagvianeba<br />

ar yofila.<br />

_ anu Tqveni Ziri Tanxis san-<br />

acvlod<br />

„evrokreditisgan”,<br />

yovelTviurad, procents iReb-<br />

diT?<br />

_ diax. zogi 3%-s iRebda, zogi<br />

_ 2,5-%s, zogic _ 5%-s. visac didi<br />

Tanxa hqonda, is cota nakleb<br />

procents iRebda.<br />

_ Tqveni Ziri Tanxa rodis<br />

unda dagebrunebinaT?<br />

_ xelSekrulebis vadis gasvlisTanave,<br />

Tumca SegveZlo, xelSekruleba<br />

Cveni survilisamebr<br />

gagvegrZelebina.<br />

_ xelSekruleba ramdenxniani<br />

iyo?<br />

_ zogs eqvsTviani hqonda, zogs<br />

_ aTTviani. magaliTad, Cemi erTerTi<br />

xelSekruleba aTTviani iyo.<br />

_ „evrokreditTan” xelSek-<br />

ruleba ramdenjer gaagrZeleT?<br />

_ ase ar maxsovs, magram orsamjer<br />

gavagrZele. iciT, rogor<br />

iyo? _ visac fuli Sehqonda,<br />

kidec gamohqonda, anu Tanxis dabrunebis<br />

problema ar iyo.<br />

_ aba, mere ra moxda?<br />

_ problema 2016 wlis bolos<br />

gaCnda.<br />

_ anu verc procenti miiReT<br />

da Ziri Tanxis dabrunebazec<br />

uari giTxres?<br />

_ diax, Cemi Tanxa rom moviTxove,<br />

am qalbatonma veRar momca.<br />

zogs xelSekruleba dekemberSi<br />

daumTavrda, magram Tavisi fuli<br />

ver miiRo, Tumca es qalbatoni<br />

Tanxis aRebas mainc agrZelebda.<br />

_ es qalbatoni vin iyo?<br />

_ qeTevan yayitaSvili, romelic<br />

axla dapatimrebulia da 8<br />

weli aqvs misjili.<br />

_ Tu dapatimrebulia da<br />

`organoebSi momuSaveebisgan xma<br />

gamovida, rom gogaSvili `kriSavda~<br />

sasjels ixdis, raRas apro-<br />

testebT?<br />

_ am axalgazrda qals viRac<br />

SeuCnda. TviTon es kaci ase ambobda,<br />

rom TanamSromeli iyo, anu ambobda,<br />

susSi vmuSaobo, magram Cven<br />

ver davadgineT, sinamdvileSi sad<br />

muSaobda.<br />

mokled, mas Semdeg, rac es kaci<br />

gamoCnda, qoneba sul masze aforma<br />

da aforma. Tu Cveulebrivi TanamSromeli<br />

iyo, amden qonebas namdvilad<br />

ver SeiZenda. gorSi erTi<br />

didi saxlia, oTxsarTuliani,<br />

romelic jer am qalis dedis saxelze<br />

iyo, mere ki, ratomRac, am<br />

kacs gadauforma. amas garda, TbilisSi<br />

„dirsis kompleqsSic” aqvs<br />

bina. dokumentaciiT 2016-Si sofelSi<br />

miwebic SeiZina, aseve bina _<br />

baTumSi. amis garda, manqanebi...<br />

sxvaTa Soris, „infiniti” mere saswrafod<br />

gayides... misi Svilic, rogorc<br />

vici, policiaSi muSaobda,<br />

Tan sul policielebi mohyavda _<br />

aq restorani „naWarmagevia” da<br />

xalxi xedavda, rom iq aqeifebda.<br />

_ imis Tqma gindaT, rom<br />

„evrokreditis”<br />

mesakuTres<br />

mfarvelebi hyavda?<br />

_ ki, ki, hyavda. mere, rogorc<br />

organoebSi momuSaveebisgan gamovida<br />

xma, ioseb gogaSvili iyo<br />

mfarveli. raRac momentSi mRebriSvilic<br />

iyo naxsenebi _ ai, is,<br />

Ss ministri rom gvyavda. SeiZleba,<br />

orive mfarvelobda, magram<br />

didi aqcenti ufro am gogaSvilze<br />

iyo, rom eg „kriSavda”.<br />

_ Tqven rogor ggoniaT,<br />

„evrokreditidan” wili gogaS-<br />

vilTan midioda?<br />

_ albaT. am saqmes ufro jgufuri<br />

kvalifikacia unda hqonoda.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, am qals erT-erTi<br />

bina, ratomRac, ar dauyadaRes,<br />

magram kacma ar icis, gorSi, rusTavis<br />

6-Si gaformebuli bina ratom<br />

ar dauyadaRes?<br />

es ufro TaRliTuri sqema iyo<br />

da jgufuri kvalifikacia unda<br />

miniWeboda _ am kacze amdeni bina<br />

iyo gadaformebuli. kacma ar<br />

icis, amdeni qoneba ucbad saidan<br />

gauCnda.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, 2014 Tu 2015<br />

wels, zustad ar maxsovs, korpusis<br />

mSenebloba daiwyo, oRond<br />

sxva kompania Seqmna, romelsac<br />

„evroplusi” erqva. es korpusi<br />

dasamTavrebelia da masTan dakav-<br />

SirebiTac didi garCevebia.<br />

_ Tu am qalbatons gogaSvili<br />

mfarvelobda, romelic maSin su-<br />

`am axalgazrda qals viRac SeuCnda. TviTon es<br />

kaci ase ambobda, rom TanamSromeli iyo, anu<br />

ambobda, susSi vmuSaobo, magram Cven ver<br />

davadgineT, sinamdvileSi sad muSaobda.<br />

mokled, mas Semdeg, rac es kaci gamoCnda,<br />

qoneba sul masze aforma da aforma~<br />

sis ufrosis moadgile iyo, Tqveni<br />

azriT, „evrokreditis” mflobels<br />

problemebi ratomRa Seeqm-<br />

na?<br />

_ aSkarad rom viRac mfarvelobda,<br />

gasagebia... Cvens erT-erT<br />

dazaralebuls, romelmac mere<br />

interviu „rusTavi 2-sac” misca,<br />

es kaci aSantaJebda.<br />

_ vin kaci aSantaJebda, gogaS-<br />

vili?<br />

_ ara, am qeTinos megobari.<br />

_ ver gavige, soso gogaSvili<br />

ra SuaSia?<br />

_ gogaSvili im SuaSia, rom qe-<br />

Tinos saqme Zalian gauadvilda,<br />

anu ufro mZime muxlebi udgeboda.<br />

erTma dazaralebulma, mevlud<br />

maneliZem, Tavi moikla da<br />

TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanis muxlic<br />

udgeboda, magram es saqmec<br />

Caifarcxa. kacma Tqva, rom aSantaJebdnen<br />

da mesijebic aCvena da<br />

Tu aravin mfarvelobda, maSin qe-<br />

Tinos megobari xom unda daeWiraT?<br />

sxvaTa Soris, am Temas ma-<br />

Sin akaki gogiCaiSvili aSuqebda.<br />

qeTinos megobris moyvarec yofili<br />

TanamSromelia, romelic,<br />

mgoni, narkotikebze gamouSves da<br />

am xalxis SantaJsa da daSinebaSi<br />

isic CarTuli iyo, _ qeTinos<br />

fuls ratom sTxovTo.<br />

_ Tqvenc xom ar gaSinebdnen?<br />

_ ara.<br />

_ maSin inkognitod darCena<br />

ratom isurveT?<br />

_ piradad me aravin maSantaJebda,<br />

magram roca vismen, rom es<br />

kaci aseT raRacebs akeTebda, simarTle<br />

giTxraT, meSinia. Cems<br />

adgilze Tqvenc rom iyoT, albaT,<br />

SegeSindebodaT.<br />

_ asea Tu ise, am ambis gaxmaureba<br />

mainc gadawyviteT da dag-<br />

vikavSirdiT, Tumca vidre Cven<br />

dagvikavSirdebodiT, gancxadeba,<br />

rogorc vici, prokuraturaSi<br />

SeitaneT, ara?<br />

_ ki, SevitaneT, rom es jgufuri<br />

danaSauli iyo... rogorc vici,<br />

qeTinosa da am kacs Soris garigeba<br />

iyo, qeTino ar „CauSvebda”,<br />

rom araoficialuri mewile iyo.<br />

arc Svils daiWerdnen, romelic<br />

direqtori iyo da Cvens saqmeze<br />

pasuxi masac unda ego.<br />

_ „evrokreditis” mflobels<br />

sasamarTlom meanabreebis zara-<br />

lis anazRaureba ar daakisra?<br />

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da `evrokreditis~ saqme<br />

_ dazaralebulebis statusi ki<br />

mogvaniWes, magram Signidan erTiori<br />

adamiani iseT raRacas akeTebda,<br />

rom advokatis ayvanis saSualeba<br />

ar mogvces, anu erTi piri<br />

ar gvqonda da amasobaSi dro gavida.<br />

mere advokati aviyvaneT da<br />

rogorc man agvixsna, Cven zaralis<br />

anazRaureba qeTinosTvis maSinve<br />

unda dagvekisrebina, sanam ganaCeni<br />

dadgeboda. mindoda, rom sisxlis<br />

samarTlis saqmis advokati<br />

gvyoloda, raTa Cveni interesi<br />

daecva, magram es ver moxerxda.<br />

saerTod, marto rom ibrZvi,<br />

Zalian rTulia, rom vinmes rame<br />

gaagebino. hoda, mere advokati<br />

samoqalaqoTi aviyvaneT.<br />

_ dRes Tqveni advokati vin<br />

aris?<br />

_ ori advokati gvyavs: aleqsi<br />

da iamze mariamiZeebi, mgoni, biZaSvilebi<br />

arian. am kacma „evrokredits”<br />

uCivla, magram saCivari, albaT,<br />

TviTon qeTevanze unda yofiliyo<br />

dawerili. ar vici, es Segnebulad<br />

gaakeTa Tu egona, rom<br />

meti Sansi hqonda, kompaniidan<br />

fuls amoiRebda...<br />

_ amJamad Tqveni saqme ra<br />

etapzea da ras iTxovT?<br />

_ Cven viTxovT: es kaci ratom<br />

ar aris dasjili amdeni xalxis<br />

SantaJis gamo? aseve finansur<br />

policiaSi Cvenebebi maszec iyo,<br />

magram pasuxi ratom ar ago? aseve<br />

qeTinom ratom ar ago pasuxi<br />

meanabris TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanamde?<br />

qeTinos sasjelSi yvelaferi<br />

gamartivebulad moxda<br />

da, rogorc axla gavige, gabrazebulia<br />

da cixidan uTvlis, xom<br />

Sempirdi, erT weliwadSi gamogiyvano?<br />

axla uTqvams, rom 2020 wlisTvis<br />

arCevnebze gamogiyvano.<br />

_ am xalxs, Tqveni azriT,<br />

dResac gogaSvili mfarvelobs?<br />

_ ar vici, vin mfarvelobs, magram<br />

am kacs amdeni qoneba saidan<br />

aqvs?<br />

_ Tavs usamarTlobis msxver-<br />

plad miiCnevT?<br />

_ ki, ki... CaTvaleT, rom yvela<br />

dazaralebulis saxeliT gelaparakebiT.<br />

_ Tqveni raionis maJoritars<br />

an xelisuflebis sxva warmomadgenels<br />

Tu SexvedrixarT da mis-<br />

Tvis daxmareba giTxoviaT?<br />

_ ara, Tumca werili baxtaZesac<br />

gavugzavneT da TadumaZe mTavar<br />

prokurorad dainiSna Tu ara,<br />

masac mivmarTeT. aseve vici, rom<br />

werili beseliasTanac iyo Sesuli.<br />

saia-Si viyaviT da iq iuristma<br />

gviTxra, es saqme ase ar unda<br />

damTavrebuliyo da Zieba unda<br />

gagrZelebuliyo, fuli _ es 6<br />

milioni sad wavidao? saia-Si isic<br />

gviTxres, rom ganaCeniT qeTinos<br />

valis gadaxdac unda dakisreboda,<br />

magram es sasamarTlom ar gaakeTa<br />

da amitom Civili ukve samoqalaqoTi<br />

mogviwia.<br />

_ imedi gaqvT, rom Tqvens<br />

Tanxas daibrunebT?<br />

_ ara, ar maqvs imitom, rom am<br />

qalis saxelze, faqtobrivad, araferia<br />

da Tu rame qoneba iyo, gadaformebulia.<br />

ai, magaliTad,<br />

gauTxovari deida hyavs da imazea<br />

gadaformebuli.<br />

`gogaSvili im SuaSia, rom qeTinos saqme Zalian<br />

gauadvilda, anu ufro mZime muxlebi udgeboda.<br />

erTma dazaralebulma, mevlud maneliZem, Tavi<br />

moikla da TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanis muxlic<br />

udgeboda, magram es saqmec Caifarcxa~<br />

sxvaTa Soris, sanam finansuri<br />

movidoda, ofisidan TanamSromlebma<br />

dokumentacia gaitanes da,<br />

rogorc vici, finansur policia-<br />

Si ar aris naCvenebi, rom oqros<br />

lombardi da manqanebis lizingic<br />

hqonda.<br />

_ e. i., darwmunebuli xarT,<br />

rom „evrokreditis” mfarveli<br />

soso gogaSvilia?<br />

_ ase laparakobs xalxi da es<br />

Cemi mogonili xom ar aris?!<br />

***<br />

„qronika+~-s „evrokreditis”<br />

kidev erTi dazaralebuli<br />

meanabre socialuri qseliT<br />

daukavSirda:<br />

„is adamiani, mTeli im periodis<br />

ganmavlobaSi, rac „evrokreditis”<br />

meanabre viyavi, ar minaxavs. bolos,<br />

roca Cems fuls viTxovdi,<br />

qeTevan yayitaSvilTan mqonda kav-<br />

Siri, ofisSi mosuliyo, radgan iq<br />

momuSave xalxi pasuxs ver mcemda.<br />

am qalbatonma telefonSi yvirili<br />

daiwyo, SenTvis ar mcaliao<br />

da gamiTiSa.<br />

ramdenime wamSi ucxo nomeri<br />

mirekavs da mkiTxulobs, _ esa da<br />

es xaro? Cems gvars ambobs. me var,<br />

Tqven romeli xarT-meTqi? aleqsandre<br />

gogiaSvili gagigiao? _<br />

ara-meTqi. _ sada xaro? aqa da aqmeTqi,<br />

_ „evrokreditis” win videqi.<br />

_ or wuTSi mand var, damelodeo.<br />

_ meTqi, gelodebi.<br />

movida viRac or tipTan erTad<br />

da qeTevanis kabinetSi Semiyvana.<br />

iq ise daxvda xalxi, momuSave persona<br />

fexze wamoudga, _ batono<br />

alekoo. meTqi, vin aris? _ aba,<br />

gismen, ra xdebao, raRac Seuracxyofebi<br />

migiyenebia qalzeo...<br />

aseTi toni rom ver gauvida,<br />

mere gamosavals eZebda, _ Sen mar-<br />

Tali xar da fuli mogecemao,<br />

axla manqana hyavs Cems biWs bazarze<br />

wayvanili, gavyidiT da mogcemTo.<br />

_ Sen saerTod vin xar, SenTan<br />

saqme arc maqvs da arc mqonia-meTqi.<br />

cota xanSi sportulebiT Semovida<br />

es qeTevani, romelmac<br />

telefonze saubrisas miTxra,<br />

TbilisSi var dabarebuli, prokuraturaSi,<br />

saxli gamiZarcves, magis<br />

Taobaze da Seni nervebi ar<br />

maqvso... da iq ar Semovida?<br />

mec Zmakacebi maxldnen. hoda,<br />

aseTi saubari rom wavida, Cemi Zmakaci<br />

gareT gamosula da biWebTan<br />

daurekavs TbilisSi. es rom gaiges,<br />

Tbilisidan xalxi modiso, is<br />

aleqsandre gogiaSvili ise aorTqlda,<br />

verc ki davinaxe da aqedan<br />

urekavdnen Cumad, _ ar moxvide,<br />

aq Tbilisidan movidneno...<br />

erTi sityviT, Cemi daSineba undoda,<br />

rac ar gamouvida...<br />

mere es qalbatoni binas mTavazobda<br />

cxinvalis cxra nomerSi,<br />

korpusebs aSenebda da iq. _ ar minda,<br />

Cemi fuli momeci-meTqi, rac<br />

me ofliT da tyviis qveS yofnis<br />

dros Sevagrove, meti araferi<br />

minda, Cemi naSromi minda, zedmeti<br />

ara-meTqi. ambobda, mogcemo,<br />

magram ver maZlevda, matyuebda,<br />

„saqarTvelos bankidan” gamomaqvs<br />

sesxi da egreve mogcemo, zars<br />

velodebio. naxevar milionze<br />

saubrobda, magram magas ise hqonda<br />

saqme ukve, romeli banki miscemda<br />

fuls?<br />

sabolood, ise daiZaba saubari,<br />

meubneba, _ Sen ggonia, sabuTi gi-<br />

Wiravso? kontraqtze Tqva, rac<br />

dadebuli gvqonda, _ eg faratina<br />

furceli ggonia sabuTio? ras<br />

iTxovo?<br />

gadamria... roca CemiT verafers<br />

gavxdi, erTi advokati gavicani<br />

da imas miveci Cemi saqme. samoqalaqo<br />

sasamarTloSi SevitaneT<br />

da dRemde vibrZvi uSedegod”.<br />

***<br />

sxvaTa Soris, qeTevan yayitaSvilis<br />

dakavebamde „evrokreditis”<br />

saqmes prokuratura swavlobda.<br />

„mikrosafinanso organizacia<br />

„evrokreditis” meanabreebi, Tanxebis<br />

dabrunebis mizniT, amjerad<br />

prokuraturas mimarTaven. am gadawyvetilebamde<br />

isini mas Semdeg<br />

mividnen, rac individualuri sa-<br />

Civrebidan saTanado Sedegi ver<br />

miiRes.<br />

dazaralebulebis informaciiT,<br />

dekemberSi „evrokreditis”<br />

damfuZnebelma ofisis gaxsnaSi<br />

dazaralebulebs daxmareba sTxova<br />

da samefos quCaze, TiTqmis<br />

orwliani pauzis Semdeg, muSaoba<br />

isev ganaaxla, Tumca arc am me-<br />

Todma gaamarTla da, rogorc gavarkvieT,<br />

axali ofisi Tve-naxevarSi<br />

isev daxura.<br />

„procentebze aRar gvaqvs laparaki.<br />

mxolod im Tanxis dabrunebas<br />

viTxovT, rac SevitaneT.<br />

„evrokreditSi” 2016 wlis seqtemberSi<br />

2000 dolari Sevitane,<br />

romelzedac 1200 dolari danamati<br />

unda damricxvoda. ramdenime<br />

TveSi ki gavige, rom kompanias finansuri<br />

problemebi Seeqmna. rodesac<br />

mflobels davukavSirdi,<br />

Tanxebis anazRaurebas dagvpirda,<br />

magram dRemde araferi moumoqmedebia”,<br />

_ ganacxada erT-erTma<br />

dazaralebulma.<br />

dazaralebuli meanabreebi yvela<br />

damnaSavis dasjas iTxoven<br />

dazaralebuli meanabreebis<br />

uflebadamcvelebi saCivars amjerad<br />

prokuraturaSi Sesatanad<br />

amzadeben. advokatebis informaciiT,<br />

finansuri policiis mxridan<br />

damfuZneblebis mimarT aSkara<br />

lobireba ikveTeba, rac saqmis<br />

gaWianurebaSic vlindeba.<br />

droSi gawelili mokvleva gaxda<br />

mizezi, ramac dazaralebulebs<br />

kidev erTi saCivris dawera gadaawyvetina.<br />

„saqme gaCerebulia. finansuri<br />

policia damfuZneblebs lobirebs<br />

da amis Taobaze axal saCivars<br />

vamzadebT”, _ aRniSna erTerTma<br />

advokatma zaza gigaurma.<br />

„aSkarad Wianurdeba gamoZieba<br />

da am dromde gamouZiebeli ra<br />

aris?! bunebrivia, amasTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT kiTxvebi da pretenziebi<br />

aqvT Cemi dacvis qveS myofebs. mokled,<br />

gamoZiebam ver daayena saSveli,<br />

rom gadawyvetileba miiRos.<br />

an Sewyvitos da Tqvas, rom aq danaSauli<br />

ar aris, an kidev gamoitanos<br />

dadgenileba braldebis Sesaxeb”,<br />

_ ganacxada nodar cincaZem.<br />

finansTa saministros sagamo-<br />

Ziebo samsaxuris informaciiT,<br />

„evrokreditis” saqmesTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT aqtiuri sagamoZiebo moqmedebebi<br />

mimdinareobs. am etapze<br />

sisxlis samarTlis devna aravis<br />

mimarT ar dawyebula. uwyeba sxva<br />

saxis konkretul ganmartebebs, am<br />

etapze, ar akeTebs.<br />

gasuli periodis msgavsad,<br />

qeTevan yayitaSvili meanabreebs<br />

amjeradac aimedebs, rom mas Semdeg,<br />

rac finansuri policia dokumentacias<br />

gadascems, kompaniisa<br />

da meanabreebis sasargeblod aqtiur<br />

muSaobas Seudgeba:<br />

„yvela angariSze, yvela raRac<br />

faseulobaze yadaRa madevs. verafers<br />

vakeTeb, romc mindodes.<br />

rogorc ki sabuTebi damibrundeba<br />

da situacia dalagdeba, albaT,<br />

sami Tve damWirdeba, amis Semdeg<br />

daviwyeb proporciulad Tanxebis<br />

dabrunebas. Cveni Tanxebi didi<br />

raodenobiT gasesxebuli gvaqvs<br />

da imaTac Semotana da gadaxda<br />

undaT, magram informacia ar gamaCnia,<br />

vis ramdeni aqvs vali. zogi<br />

qviTars iTxovs, zogi _ angariSis<br />

nomers. zepirad ver davuwer veravis<br />

verafers”, _<br />

SegaxsenebT: davis sagania 2<br />

milion-naxevar larze meti, romelic<br />

300-mde meanabrem „evrokredits”<br />

miaprocenta. aqedan 926<br />

aTasi dolari ramdenime dazaralebuls<br />

ukve daubrunes.<br />

„evrokreditSi” finansuri krizisi<br />

2016 wlis dekemberSi daiwyo.<br />

amis mizezi ki safinanso organizacia<br />

„saqarTveloSi” e. w. piramidis<br />

CamoSla gaxda, risi gaxmaurebis<br />

Semdegac „evrokreditis” meanabreebma<br />

sakuTari Tanxebis ukan<br />

dabruneba moiTxoves, aman ki kompania<br />

gakotrebamde miiyvana”, _ es<br />

informacia radio „mozaikam” 2018<br />

wlis ianvarSi gaavrcela, ori<br />

Tvis Semdeg ki, rogorc statiis<br />

dasawyisSi aRvniSneT, qeTevan yayitaSvili<br />

daapatimres.<br />

realurad mfarvelobda Tu<br />

ara „evrokreditis” damfuZnebels<br />

susis ufrosis yofili moadgile<br />

soso gogaSvili, _ es gamoZiebam<br />

unda daadginos, magram rogorc<br />

dazaralebulebi hyvebian, zemo<br />

eSelonebidan zustad aseTi xmebi<br />

gamovida. ase rom, axla jeri<br />

gamoZiebazea _ ramdenime aseul<br />

adamians kiTxvebze pasuxi sagamo-<br />

Ziebo uwyebam unda gasces!<br />

17


vato gelaSvilis gverdi<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

„qarTuli emigraciis, demografiuli da ekonomikuri centri”<br />

sajaro reestrma 2019 wlis 13 Tebervals daaregistrira.<br />

reestris amonaweris mixedviT organizacia quTaisSi mde-<br />

bareobs. misi aRmasrulebeli direqtori nunu SalamberiZea,<br />

xolo aRmasrulebeli sabWos wevrebi arian: malxaz lomsaZe,<br />

gela xarWamaZe da nunu SalamberiZe. centris mmarTvelobis<br />

organoa damfuZnebelTa saerTo kreba.<br />

ras warmoadgens es organiza-<br />

cia da ratom miipyro man Cveni<br />

yuradReba?<br />

emzar kvicianma Tebervlis<br />

dasawyisSi daaanonsa, rom fondis<br />

Seqmnas apirebda, romelSic fuls<br />

emigrantebi Caricxaven da axali<br />

ojaxebis gaZlierebas Seuwyoben<br />

xels.<br />

„ai, xom arian Seyvarebulebi,<br />

romlebic ver bedaven ojaxis Seqmnas,<br />

radgan ar aqvT saSualeba.<br />

iqnebian agentebi, ivlian, gaigeben,<br />

sad arian aseTi Seyvarebulebi,<br />

aRricxvaze aiyvanen da iqneba daxmareba<br />

magaTi... dRes demografiulad<br />

yvelaze metad visac uWirs,<br />

qarTvelebi arian. Tvals xom ar<br />

davxuWavT?! es iqneba qarTvelTa<br />

jgufi, romelic qarTvelebs<br />

qarTuli ojaxebis SeqmnaSi daexmareba”,<br />

– ganacxada deputatma.<br />

TavisTavad, fondis aRmasrulebeli<br />

sabWos wevrebis vinaoba<br />

saintereso unda iyos sazogadoebisTvis<br />

da amitom gadavwyviteT<br />

warmogvedgina, ras akeTeben da sad<br />

moRvaweoben isini.<br />

2016 wels malxaz lomsaZem da<br />

gela xarWamaZem daafuZnes kompania<br />

„rekonstruqcia XXI”.<br />

2017 wels kompaniis saxelze fiqsirdeba<br />

ori saxelmwifo Sesyidva:<br />

1. eleqtronuli tenderis sa-<br />

SualebiT q. TbilisSi krwanisis<br />

raionis teritoriaze dazianebul<br />

Senoba-nagebobebze droebiTi winmswreb-damzRvevi<br />

RonisZiebebis Catarebis,<br />

demontaJisa da sxva Tanmdevi<br />

samuSaoebis saxelmwifo Sesyidva.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 133,983 lari<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

10.01.2017-28.02.2018;<br />

2. naZaladevis raionis infrastruqturis<br />

mowesrigebis samuSaoebis<br />

saxelmwifo Sesyidva.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 154,000 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

20.04.2017-31.01.2019.<br />

arc erTi valdebuleba ar Sesrulebula.<br />

amave wels dafuZnebulia Sps<br />

„rekonstruqcia XXI-is filiali/<br />

warmomadgenloba”:<br />

1. xelvaCauris municipalitet-<br />

Si s/gza „feria-eseliZeebidevaZeebi”<br />

– km0+150 monakveTze<br />

sayrdeni kedlis mowyoba;<br />

Rirebuleba _ 9,494 lari<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

15.11.2016-31.01.2017<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

2. q. baTumSi, xulos q. #10-Si<br />

mdebare kulturuli memkvidreobis<br />

Zeglis Sida saremonto samuSaoebi<br />

(ezo da veranda).<br />

Rirebuleba _ 24,800 lari<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

3. Tbilisis vagonebis saremonto<br />

depos saurike saamqros saxuravis<br />

SekeTebis samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 65,838 lari<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

23.02.2018-31.12.2018.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

4. a(a)ip sarkinigzo transportis<br />

kolejis teritoriis keTilmowyobis-moasfaltebis<br />

samuSaoebis<br />

Sesyidva<br />

Rirebuleba _ 165,982 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

28.02.2018-30.07.2018.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

5. q. borjomSi mesxeTis quCidan<br />

robaqiZis quCaze gadasasvleli<br />

xidis savali nawilis reabilit-<br />

18<br />

aciis samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 51,700.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

12.03.2018-30.06.2018.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

6. saqarTvelos iusticiis<br />

saministros administraciuli Senobis<br />

(mdebare q. Tbilisi, gorgaslis<br />

q. #24 a -Si) SesasvlelSi arsebuli<br />

marmarilos kedlis (0, I da II<br />

sarTulebi) da gare ezos perimetrze<br />

granitis kedlebis rekonstruqciis<br />

samuSaoebi<br />

Rirebuleba _ 108,001 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

27.12.2016-31.05.2017.<br />

Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba;<br />

7. axalcixis municipalitetis<br />

sofel uravelSi „uravelis” magistraluri<br />

milsadenis gadatanisa<br />

da masTan dakavSirebuli sareabilitacio<br />

samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 167.765.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

14.02.2018-15.08.2018.<br />

Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba;<br />

8. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />

varZiisa da wyalaforeTis administraciul<br />

erTeulebSi sof. var-<br />

ZiaSi stiqiisgan dazianebuli Ci-<br />

CiliZeebis saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />

maCitaZeebisa da okribelaSvilebis<br />

saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />

sof. varZiaSi saniaRvre arxis<br />

mowyobis, sof. patara varZiaSi<br />

gzis sareabilitacio da sof. laxundaraSi<br />

gzis reabilitaciis samuSaoebis<br />

Sesyidva.<br />

197.900<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

22.06.2018-30.11.2018.<br />

5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />

2019 wlis 30 maisamde;<br />

9. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />

kicxisa da xidris administraciul<br />

erTeulebSi stiqiisagan dazianebuli<br />

miqiaSvilebis saubno gzis<br />

reabilitaciis, jimSiaSvilebis saubno<br />

gzis reabilitaciis, sof. borSi<br />

niqabaZeebis saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />

sof. xidarSi saniaRvre<br />

arxis mowyobisa da xid-bogiris<br />

mowyobis samuSaoebis Sesyidva.<br />

225,252.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

29.06.2018-30.11.2018.<br />

5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />

2019 wlis 30 maisamde;<br />

10. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />

dabisa da wyalaforeTis administraciul<br />

erTeulebSi sofel laxundaraSi<br />

sasoflo gzisa da daba-<br />

Si quCebis/Cixebis, sayrdeni kedlebis<br />

mowyobisa da datborvis sawinaaRmdego<br />

samuSaoebis Sesyidva.<br />

410,940<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

10.07.2018-31.12.2018.<br />

5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />

2019 wlis 30 maisamde.<br />

kompania 2018 wlis agvistodan<br />

2019 wlis agvistomde Seyvanilia<br />

Sav siaSi.<br />

da mesame kompania Sps „rekonstruqcia<br />

XXI _ mudmivi dawesebuleba”<br />

yvela xelSekruleba dadebulia<br />

(an dadebis stadiaSi) 2019<br />

wlis Tebervlis Semdeg.<br />

direqtori maia gogoberiSvilia,<br />

Tumca satendero dokumentaciaSi<br />

miTiTebulia, rom es kompania,<br />

uSualo kavSirSia „rekonstruqcia<br />

XXI-Tan” da samuSaoebis Sesrulebis<br />

procesSi misi teqnikis<br />

gamoyenebas gegmavs.<br />

elfosta samive kompanias erTi<br />

aqvs: lomsadze5@yandex.ru<br />

1. q. gardabanSi Sida gzebis (Tamar<br />

mefis, gamarjvebis, aSiSbilalis<br />

quCebi da qvemo kapanaxCis dasaxlebaSi<br />

misasvleli gza da Cixi),<br />

reabilitacia,<br />

Rirebuleba _ 1,705,109 lari<br />

(yvelaze maRali fasiT)<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

ra gegmebi aqvT emzar<br />

kvicianis partniorebs?<br />

01.05.2019-31.12.2021;<br />

2. q. baTumSi boni-gorodokis<br />

dasaxlebis quCebis: al. CxaiZis<br />

quCis (fexiT savali nawili erT<br />

mxares, jibeebi) da quCis gagrZelebis<br />

iaSvilis quCidan erisTavis<br />

quCamde, ioselianis, erisTvis Sesaxvevisa<br />

da II Cixis, a. noRaidelis,<br />

iaSvilis, kaikaciSvilis, iunkrebis,<br />

dadianisa da s. TayaiSvilis qu-<br />

Cebis sareabilitacio samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 1,715,000 lari.<br />

oqmi #35-4-is mixedviT, kompania<br />

da misi pretendenti diskvalificirebulebi<br />

arian dokumentaciis<br />

xarvezis gamo, magram oqmi<br />

#35-5-is mixedviT, gamarjvebulad<br />

gamovlenilia „rekonstruqcia XXI<br />

_ mudmivi dawesebuleba”;<br />

3. mestiis municipalitetSi<br />

Sida gzebis reabilitacia, 10 quCa;<br />

Rirebuleba _ 3,235,811 lari.<br />

4. qalaq zugdidis TabukaSvilis<br />

quCis 1,5 km-iani (dazustebuli<br />

sigrZe _ 1,372 km.) monakveTis<br />

sareabilitacio samuSaoebi.<br />

Sps „bilding grup 17"-s miRebuli<br />

aqvs diskvalifikacia teqnikuri<br />

dokumentaciis gamo.<br />

savaraudod, xelSekruleba gauformdeba<br />

kompania „rekonstruqcia<br />

XXI _ mudmiv dawesebulebas”,<br />

radgan sxva pretendenti tender-<br />

Si ar Cans.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 2,150,000 lari;<br />

5. q. borjomSi merab kostavas<br />

quCaze, mdinare borjomulaze<br />

saxide gadasasvlelis samSeneblos<br />

samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 735,000 lari.<br />

mimdinareobs xelSekrulebis<br />

momzadeba.<br />

samive CamoTvlili kompania<br />

warmoadgens filials 2016 wlis<br />

ivlisSi ruseTSi daregistrirebuli<br />

kompaniisa, romelic amave saxels<br />

atarebs da romlis direqtoric<br />

ekaterine lomsaZea.<br />

Tumca am jgufs ekuTvnis kidev<br />

ramdenime kompania, romelic aseve<br />

monawileobs tenderebSi.<br />

malxaz lomsaZis Sps „nikaremstrois<br />

filiali saqarTveloSi”<br />

moskovSi 2012 wels Seqmnili kompaniis<br />

filialia, magram es kompania<br />

ruseTSi ukve likvidirebulia.<br />

2016 wlis noembris monacemebiT<br />

aRniSnulia, rom kompanias davalianeba<br />

ericxeba, Tumca adgilmdebareobis<br />

gaurkvevlobis an qonebis<br />

arqonis gamo kompanias aravi-<br />

Tari pasuxismgebloba ar daekisra.<br />

saqarTveloSi sxva viTarebaa.<br />

kompania agrZelebs muSaobas da<br />

tenderebSi monawileobas.<br />

1. sofel axalsoflis, sofel<br />

Cabanosa da sofel naqalaqaris<br />

sabavSvo baRebis reabilitacia,<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

03.06.2016-15.10.2016<br />

Rirebuleba _ 364,064 lari.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

2. q. Tbilisis CuRureTis raionis<br />

teritoriaze sayrdeni kedlebis<br />

mowyobis samuSaoebis saxelmwifo<br />

Sesyidva.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

04.07.2016-31.12.2016.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 92,598 lari.<br />

Seusrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

3. q.baTumSi, g. brwyinvalis q.<br />

#54-Si Senobis gamagreba-gaZlierebisa<br />

da gamagrebis Semdeg pirveladi<br />

mdgomareobis (miSenebuli<br />

lojiebis) aRdgena.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 99,500 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

27.06.2016-24.11.2016.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

4. Cxorowyus municipalitetis<br />

sofel axuTSi md. zanaze saavtomobili<br />

xidis samSeneblo samuSaoebi.<br />

18 N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.


Rirebuleba _ 809,814 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

13.02.2018-17.01.2019.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

5. q. borjomSi Toris quCaze<br />

mdinare gujarulaze gadasasvleli<br />

xidisa da gzis reabilitacia.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 58,868 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

10.05.2018-31.12.2018.<br />

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6. q. zestafonSi aRmaSeneblis q.<br />

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saxelmwifo dramatuli Teatris<br />

mimdebared arsebuli centraluri<br />

moednis axleburi dagegmarebisa<br />

da sruli sarekonstruqcio samuSaoebis<br />

Sesyidva.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 635,951 lari.<br />

xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

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Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />

lomsaZis kidev erTi kompaniaa<br />

„grosinvest kapitali” (am SemTxvevaSic<br />

eleqtronuli fostis misamarTia<br />

lomsadze5@yandex.ru).<br />

kompaniis mflobelia Sps „grosinvest<br />

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1. sof. cixisZiris wyalsadenze<br />

debetis gazrdis samuSaoebi.<br />

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xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />

23.01.2017-31.12.2017.<br />

Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />

Setanilia Sav siaSi (13.06.2018-<br />

30.05.2019);<br />

2. q. baTumis municipalitetis<br />

meria, lorTqifaniZis quCis monakveTis<br />

keTilmowyobis samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 191,984 lari.<br />

xelSekrulebis moqmedebis vadas<br />

gadacilebuli dReebi: 640;<br />

3. q. TbilisSi, amaRlebis quCa<br />

#32-Si mdebare Senobis kapitaluri<br />

SekeTebis samuSaoebi. xarj-<br />

TaRricxva.<br />

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kapitaluri SekeTebis samuSaoebi;<br />

q. TbilisSi, Zm. zubalaSvilebis<br />

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kedlis kapitaluri SekeTebis samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 369,000 lari.<br />

Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />

Setanilia Sav siaSi (22.01.2019-<br />

22.01.2020);<br />

4. Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino<br />

universitetis administraciuli<br />

korpusis me-8 sarTulis<br />

sarekonstruqcio samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 324,999 lari.<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

5. ssip „veteranebis saqmeTa saxelmwifo<br />

samsaxuris” administraciuli<br />

Senobisa da mimdebare teritoriis<br />

sareabilitacio da saremonto<br />

samuSaoebi.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 1,232,000 lari,<br />

Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />

6. delfinariumis Senobis saxuravis<br />

reabilitacia.<br />

Rirebuleba _ 128,700 lari.<br />

Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />

Setanilia Sav siaSi (12.04.2019-<br />

12.04.2020).<br />

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49 saxelmwifo SesyidvaSi.<br />

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23 sasamarTlo procesSi<br />

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saqarTveloSi Sps „nika” dafuZn-<br />

da 2017 wels. misi direqtoria<br />

ilia lagvilava.<br />

Sps „maria” aseve ruseTSi dafuZnebuli<br />

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erTi saxelmwifo Sesyidva da 4<br />

sasamarTlo samarTlo saqme. aqedan 2-Si mo-<br />

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piri.<br />

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antikorufciulma saagentom 4<br />

sajaro moxele da kerZo kompaniebis<br />

xelmZRvanelebi daakava: Tiane-<br />

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yofili pirveli moadgile mamuli<br />

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borotad gamoiyenes samsaxurebrivi<br />

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saxelobis sasamarTlo<br />

eqspertizis erovnuli biuros<br />

mier gacemuli daskvnis Tanaxmad,<br />

123 240 lari Seadgina.<br />

Tavis mxriv, Sps „nikaremstrois<br />

filiali saqarTveloSis” direqtori<br />

malxaz lomsaZe da Sps „razas”<br />

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yalbi daskvnis gacemis faqtze,<br />

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zaza endelaZe da badri miqaZe.<br />

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kompaniebi TaRliTurad<br />

dauflebodnen saxelmwifos kuTvnil<br />

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xelSekruleba Seusrulebelia. da<br />

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igi Tbilisidan 200 kilometrSi mdebareobs da 300 km radiusiT TurqeTs,<br />

somxeTs, azerbaijansa da ruseTs ukavSirdeba.<br />

N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />

rulebulia. adgilze, daaxloebiT, 16 500<br />

kubmetris moculobis betoni Caisxa. am<br />

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mSenebloba gegmis mixedviT midis<br />

da igi 2019 wels aucileblad dasruldeba.<br />

am etapze gamoyofilia 60 milioni lari.<br />

saqarTvelos aeroportebis gaerTianebis<br />

informaciiT, terminalis dizaini holandiur<br />

arqiteqturul kompania UN Studio-s<br />

ekuTvnis. aeroportis ganviTarebis analizi<br />

ki IATA konsaltingis mier aris gakeTebuli,<br />

romelmac yvela im momsaxurebis standarti<br />

gansazRvra, rasac aeroporti unda<br />

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TSi 300 mgzavrs emsaxureboda. axali terminalis<br />

mSeneblobis dasrulebis Semdeg ki<br />

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gatarebas SeZlebs. axali terminalis<br />

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metrs Seadgens. quTaisis aeroportSi am<br />

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axali terminalis mSeneblobis dasrulebis<br />

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aeroportebis gaerTianebaSi.<br />

aeroportis prioritets bazarze dabalbiujetiani<br />

kompaniebis mozidva warmoadgens.<br />

quTaisis saerTaSoriso aeroportSi<br />

mgzavrTa mzardi nakadis gamo axali sivrceebis<br />

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mSenebloba 2017 wels daanonsda.<br />

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proeqtis mixedviT terminalis mSenebloba<br />

xelSekrulebis dadebidan 140 dReSi unda<br />

dasrulebuliyo. mSenebloba 2017 wlis seqtemberSi<br />

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unda warmoadgendes,<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, xelisuflebam<br />

unda agos pasuxi imaze, ratom dainiSna<br />

es adamiani ekonomikis ministrad?!<br />

ra mimarTulebiT TamaSobda<br />

is rusul TamaSs, esec sainteresoa,<br />

_ rame iseTi proeqti iyo<br />

gansaxorcielebeli da ar ganxorcielda?<br />

magaliTad, ewinaaRmdegeboda<br />

Tu ara qobulia anakliis<br />

portis ganviTarebas? ruseTi ewinaaRmdegeba<br />

anakliis portis gan-<br />

nika CitaZe:<br />

`biZina ki ar aris<br />

ubedureba,<br />

biZinizmia ubedureba<br />

ra Tqma unda,<br />

arc miSizmi da<br />

zviadizmia<br />

aris misaRebi~<br />

viTarebas imitom, rom igi fiqrobs,<br />

am SemTxvevaSi, rusul portebs<br />

didi konkurenti gauCndeba<br />

anakliis portis saxiT. ramdenime<br />

dRis win ruseTis ekonomikis ministrma<br />

imasTan dakavSirebiT ilaparaka,<br />

rom ruseTis kaspiisa da Savi<br />

zRvis portebi erTmaneTs unda<br />

daukavSirdes, centraluri aziidan<br />

momavali tvirTebis transportireba<br />

novorosiiskis portamde<br />

unda ganxorcieles an CrdiloeT<br />

kavkasiaSi satransporto infrastruqtura<br />

unda ganviTardes.<br />

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos<br />

saxiT ruseTi iRebs did konkurents.<br />

ramdenad iyo am sakiTxSi<br />

`samwuxarod, jerjerobiT, Tavad xelisufleba<br />

TamaSobs garkveul rusul TamaSs. vgulisxmob<br />

imas, rom dRes "Tibisi banki" wnexis qveS aris,<br />

swored xazaraZe da "Tibisia" anakliis<br />

konsorciumis wevri. Tu am proeqtis<br />

ganxorcieleba Seferxda, ra Tqma unda, es,<br />

pirvel rigSi, ruseTs awyobs. Cven viciT, rom<br />

anakliis ports SeeZleba 100 milionamde<br />

tvirTis gadamuSaveba, transportireba, rodesac<br />

ruseTSi mdebare novorosiiskis porti sami Tvis<br />

ganmavlobaSi daketilia Stormebis gamo da<br />

amitomac anakliis porti erT-erTi yvelaze<br />

mZlavri porti iqneba Sav zRvaze~<br />

qobulia CarTuli, bunebrivia, unda<br />

gairkves. mosaxleobam unda<br />

icodes simarTle, vin aris marTali.<br />

aristoteles logikaSi ori<br />

varianti arsebobs, mesames gamoricxvis<br />

principiT. rodesac ori<br />

subieqti erTmaneTTan daobs an<br />

erTia marTali, an _ meore. mesame<br />

varianti aris gamoricxuli. aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, xelisuflebas Tu<br />

rame damamtkicebeli sabuTi aqvs,<br />

unda auxsnas mosaxleobas, rom qobulia<br />

cdeboda. samwuxarod, jerjerobiT,<br />

Tavad xelisufleba TamaSobs<br />

garkveul rusul TamaSs. vgulisxmob<br />

imas, rom dRes „Tibisi<br />

banki” wnexis qveS aris, swored xazaraZe<br />

da „Tibisia” anakliis konsorciumis<br />

wevri. Tu am proeqtis<br />

ganxorcieleba Seferxda, ra Tqma<br />

unda, es, pirvel rigSi, ruseTs awyobs.<br />

Cven viciT, rom anakliis<br />

ports SeeZleba 100 milionamde<br />

tvirTis gadamuSaveba, transportireba,<br />

rodesac ruseTSi mdebare<br />

novorosiiskis porti sami Tvis<br />

ganmavlobaSi daketilia Stormebis<br />

gamo da amitomac anakliis porti<br />

erT-erTi yvelaze mZlavri porti<br />

iqneba Sav zRvaze. rusuli TamaSia<br />

swored is, rom Seferxdes<br />

aRniSnuli navsadguris mSenebloba.<br />

miT umetes, rodesac evrokav-<br />

Siri 300 milioni evros dabandebas<br />

apirebs, saerTo jamSi, saqar-<br />

Tvelom 5-6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi unda<br />

miiRos 3 miliardi evro da 10%<br />

unda moxmardes anakliis portis<br />

ganviTarebas. faqtia, rom mas Semdeg,<br />

rac „qarTuli ocneba” xelisuflebaSi<br />

movida, saqarTvelom<br />

ruseTze ekonomikuri damokidebulebis<br />

zrda daiwyo. es qobulias<br />

ministrobamdec ase iyo. 2013 wels<br />

ruseT-saqarTvelos molaparakebebis<br />

Seedegad gaixsna rusuli bazari,<br />

qarTuli eqsportis moculoba<br />

rusul bazarze 150%-iT<br />

gaizarda, dRes ruseTi saqarTvelos<br />

nomer meore savaWro-ekonomikuri<br />

partnioria. qarTuli saeqsporto<br />

produqciis gasaRebis mixedviT,<br />

2019 wlis monacemebiT, saqarTvelo<br />

pirvel adgilzea, anu es<br />

aris viTareba, romelic gamowveuli<br />

iyo „qarTuli ocnebis” saqmianobis<br />

Sedegad. amitomac yvelafers<br />

qobulias ver davabralebT.<br />

_ rogor SeafasebT Sualedur<br />

arCevnebze winasaarCevno garemos?<br />

zugdidSi mdgomareoba gan-<br />

sakuTrebiT mwvave iyo, maT Soris,<br />

gavrcelda Canawerebi, sadac „oc-<br />

nebis” deputati imaze saubrobs,<br />

rom yvelanairi meTodiT unda<br />

moigon arCevnebi. raze metyve-<br />

lebs es faqtebi?<br />

_ didi ilia ityoda: „moyvares<br />

pirSi uZraxe, mters pirs ukanao”.<br />

me adrec aRminiSnavs da axlac minda<br />

vTqva, rom es yvelaferi aris<br />

qarTuli sazogadoebis mniSvnelovani<br />

nawilis qmedebis Sedegi. 2012<br />

wels acxadebdnen, rom oRond miSa<br />

ara da vinc ginda, movideso. arc<br />

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mosagebad yvelafers kadrulobda~<br />

fiqrobdnen momavalze, egonaT,<br />

rom movidoda adamiani, romelic<br />

maT fuls daurigebda da isinic<br />

udardelad icxovrebdnen. erTi<br />

dRiT cxovrobdnen da Sedegi aris<br />

is, rac miviReT. biZina ki ar aris<br />

ubedureba, biZinizmia ubedureba,<br />

ra Tqma unda, arc miSizmi da zviadizmia<br />

aris misaRebi. zogadad, beladizmi<br />

miuRebelia. Sen unda iyo<br />

individualuri da Tavisufali.<br />

qarTvelebs gvaqvs aseTi sityva _<br />

Tavisufali, anu Seni Tavis ufali.<br />

5 ucxo enas met-naklebad vflob,<br />

aseTi sityva arc erT enaSi Semxvedria.<br />

CvenTan arsebobs, magram<br />

ramdenad viyenebT, es sxva sakiTxia.<br />

romael filosofossa da poet<br />

ovidiuss aqvs naTqvami: „mxolod<br />

ganaTlebul adamians ZaluZs Tavisufleba”;<br />

ciceronmac kargad<br />

Tqva: „yvelaze bednieria is adamiani,<br />

romelic damokidebulia, pirvel<br />

rigSi, sakuTar Tavze”. Cven-<br />

Tan yovelTvis damokidebulebi<br />

arian sxvaze, rom Tavisufleba mihyidon<br />

sxvas da xSir SemTxvevaSi<br />

belads, romelic, maTi azriT, maT<br />

gasakeTebels gaakeTebs. cnobil<br />

fsiqolog erix fromis koncefciaa:<br />

Tavisuflebisgan gaqceva. Cven-<br />

Tan saqarTveloSi bevri gaiqca am<br />

Tavisuflebisgan, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

dRes miviReT is, rom xelisuflebaSi<br />

gvyavs adamianebi, romlebic<br />

saubroben, rom yvelanairi<br />

meTodis gamoyenebiT unda moigon<br />

arCevnebi. mosaxleobis mniSvnelovani<br />

nawilisTvis es misaRebia, er-<br />

Ti meores gadaulaparakebs xolme<br />

_ Sen rom yofiliyavi xelisuflebaSi,<br />

igives ar izamdi?!. xelisufleba<br />

SeSinebulia da es gamoCnda<br />

saprezidento arCevnebis pirveli<br />

turis Semdegac. xelisuflebas<br />

mmarTvelobis dakargvis, garkveulwilad,<br />

yovelTvis unda eSinodes,<br />

oRond amas kargi gagebiT vambob.<br />

demokratiul qveynebSic asea,<br />

magaliTad konservatorebi rom<br />

marTaven britaneTs, maT eSiniaT,<br />

rom Tu ver ganaxorcieles proeqtebi,<br />

Semdgom arCevnebSi damarcxdebian,<br />

magram es aris normaluri<br />

da safuZvliani SiSi, rac aiZulebs<br />

qveynis mmarTvel Zalas, konkretuli<br />

reformebi gaataros. saqar-<br />

TveloSi gansxvavebuli faqtoria,<br />

_ erTi mxriv, xelisufleba SeSinda,<br />

magram, meore mxriv, xelisuflebam<br />

saprezidento arCevnebis<br />

meore turSi isic dainaxa, rom<br />

mondomebis SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebas<br />

SeinarCunebs, anu daarigebs<br />

5 kilo kartofils, TbilisSi mcxovreblebs,<br />

vinc regionebSia registrirebuli,<br />

mikroavtobusebiT<br />

Caiyvans xmis misacemad. amasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT minda, giTxraT: ramdenime<br />

dRis win gaCerebaze Seveswari<br />

saubars, zudideli gogo elaprakeboda<br />

mobilurze, savaraudod,<br />

megobars an naTesavs, _ axla<br />

arCevnebze mTavazoben „marSutkiT”<br />

Casvlas, Tan 50 lars ixdiano.<br />

Cveulebrivad, xmamaRla saubrobda,<br />

sxvebsac esmoda. es gogo imaze<br />

amaxvilebda yuradRebas, rom Cavidoda<br />

da Tavis megobars Tu nacnobs<br />

Sexvdeboda, anu arCevnebze<br />

ufasod wasvla da 50 laris aReba<br />

es misTvis Cveulebrivi ambavi iyo,<br />

rogorc Cans. xelisufleba yvelafers<br />

kadrulobda arCevnebis<br />

mosagebad. 2016 welsac yvelaferi<br />

gaakeTa, rom 73-e olqSi Tavisi kandidati<br />

gaeyvana, formalurad mainc<br />

gaeyvanaT opoziciis kandidati.<br />

zurabiSvils saprezidento<br />

`ruseTi ewinaaRmdegeba anakliis portis ganviTarebas imitom, rom igi<br />

fiqrobs, am SemTxvevaSi, rusul portebs didi konkurenti gauCndeba<br />

anakliis portis saxiT. ramdenime dRis win ruseTis ekonomikis ministrma<br />

imasTan dakavSirebiT ilaparaka, rom ruseTis kaspiisa da Savi zRvis<br />

portebi erTmaneTs unda daukavSirdes, centraluri aziidan momavali<br />

tvirTebis transportireba novorosiiskis portamde unda ganxorcieles an<br />

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi satransporto infrastruqtura unda ganviTardes.<br />

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos saxiT ruseTi iRebs did konkurents.<br />

ramdenad iyo am sakiTxSi qobulia CarTuli, bunebrivia, unda gairkves~<br />

arCevnebis meore turi rom waego,<br />

SeeZlo ganecxadebinaT, rom mSvidobianad<br />

gadaabara saprezidento<br />

posti opoziciis kandidats. am<br />

SemTxvevaSi, rac ar unda isaubron<br />

„sisxlian 9 welze”, „nacionalur<br />

moZraobas” ufro meti aqvs salaprako.<br />

„nacionalur moZraobas”<br />

aqvs saTqmeli, rom man 2012 wels<br />

mSvidobianad gadaabara xelisufleba<br />

„ocnebas”, damoukidebeli<br />

saqarTvelos istoriaSi pirvelad<br />

moxda xelisuflebis mSvidobiani<br />

gziT gadabareba. „qarTul ocnebas”<br />

meore turi rom waego, mainc<br />

inarCunebda mTavrobas, parlamentsa<br />

da 2020 wlis saparlamento<br />

arCevnebisTvis moemzadebodnen.<br />

Tumca isini saqarTvelos presti-<br />

Jze naklebad fiqroben. isini fiqroben,<br />

rom arCevnebis wagebis<br />

erTi precedenti mainc Tu Seiqmneba,<br />

es iqneba rRvevis dasawyisi.<br />

amitomac eWidebodnen ase mTawmindis<br />

olqsa da zugdids. orive saarCevno<br />

olqi xelisuflebisTvis<br />

mtkivneuli iyo. zugdidi imitom,<br />

rom samegrelo, rogorc wesi, „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” mxardamWerad<br />

iTvleba. sandra rulovsi<br />

adrec iyrida kenWs da yuTebic ki<br />

gaitaces saarCevno ubnebidan, esec<br />

ki ikadres. am Sualedur arCevnebzec<br />

araerTi ciliswameba movismineT<br />

sandra rulovsis misamarTiT.<br />

_ raze metyvelebs is faqti,<br />

rom xelisuflebas sandra rulovsis<br />

winaaRmdeg aseTi me-<br />

TodebiT mouwia brZola?<br />

_ pirdapir minda vTqva, rom es<br />

metyvelebs mosaxleobis dabal<br />

kulturaze. ra Tqma unda, es mec<br />

mexeba, am sazogadoebis Semadgeneli<br />

nawili var. guli Semtkiva da<br />

amitomac vambob, rom qveyanaSi ganaTlebis<br />

ganviTarebaa saWiro.<br />

warmogidgeniaT, rogor doneze<br />

vrceldeba es cru informaciebi?!<br />

_ amboben, sandra organoebiT va-<br />

Wrobdao da viRac amas ijerebs.<br />

adamians unda hqondes ganaTleba,<br />

kultura da inteleqti imisTvis,<br />

rom ar daijeros msgavsi informacia,<br />

romelic Woris doneze mizanmimarTulad<br />

vrceldeba. „nacionalur<br />

moZraobaze” amboben,<br />

cocxebiT aupatiurebdnen xalxso.<br />

im adamianebisTvis, romlebic amas<br />

dRemde amboben, pasuxi aravis mou-<br />

Txovia. normalur qveyanaSi, vinc<br />

Segnebulad avrcelebs msgavs cru<br />

informaciebs, ciliswamebisTvis<br />

pasuxs mosTxovdnen. is adamiani<br />

(Tu adamianamde jer kidev armisuli<br />

arseba, rogorc nicSe ityoda),<br />

romelic winasaarCevnod gamovida<br />

da sandras uTxra, Tirkmeli amomacaleo,<br />

Turme, jgufur yaCaRobaze<br />

yofila braldebuli. mag „adamians”<br />

sjobda, sandrasTvis eki-<br />

Txa, Cemi tvini sad waiReo da amas<br />

ufro daijerebda xalxi. Tu xelisufleba<br />

aseTi adamianebis imedzea,<br />

es saSinelebaa. Tundac gavixsenoT<br />

korcxelis incidenti, rac<br />

ikadra am xelisuflebam. wina xelisuflebaze<br />

SeiZleba gaixseno 7<br />

noemberi da 26 maisi. me „imedSi” Se-<br />

Wras ar vamarTleb, magram 7 noembers<br />

xelisuflebis damxobis mowodeba<br />

iyo, Sesabamisad, xelisuflebam<br />

Zala gamoiyena, ubralod,<br />

gadaameta. rac Seexeba 26 maiss, momitingeebs<br />

mouwodes, rom sxvagan<br />

gaemarTaT mitingi, raTa aRlumi<br />

CaetarebinaT, risi saSualebac ar<br />

misces, amitomac moxda is, rac<br />

moxda. cota gansxvavebul viTarebasTan<br />

gvqonda saqme, nebismieri<br />

xelisufleba imoqmedebs, rodesac<br />

mitingi arasanqcirebulia. Cven gvinaxavs<br />

mitingis darbevebi ekonomikurad<br />

ganviTarebul qveynebSi,<br />

xelisuflebis moqmedeba safrangeTSi,<br />

yviTelJiletianebTan mimar-<br />

TebiT. saerTo jamSi, ra Tqma unda,<br />

Zaladobis winaaRmdegi var. „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis” SemTxvevaSi iseT realobas<br />

viRebT, xSirad Cans, rom<br />

xelisufleba moZaladeebs Tavadve<br />

afarebs xels. korcxelis incidentis<br />

monawileebs awinaureben, Tbilisis<br />

meri xels arTmevs adamians,<br />

vinc Tako Carkviansa da mis qmarze<br />

Tavdasxma ganaxorciela. aSkarad<br />

aCveneben xalxs, rom am moZaladeebs<br />

mfarveloben, rom es moZaladeebi<br />

maT mxares dganan, „mxedrionis”<br />

dros, rogorc iyo, ubralod<br />

eseni SeiaraRebulebi ar arian,<br />

Tan axla ufro civilizebuli<br />

garemoa, ufro meti asfaltia<br />

dagebuli, quCebi ganaTebulia, rac<br />

„ocnebis” damsaxureba namdvilad<br />

araa, vinc gaanaTa, Zalian kargad<br />

viciT. gaanaTa, magram bolomde<br />

ver gaanaaTla xalxi da samwuxaro<br />

realobas amitomac viRebT.<br />

_ gavrcelebuli informaciiT,<br />

ivaniSvili vadamdeli saparlamen-<br />

to arCevnebisTvis emzadeba.<br />

rogor fiqrobT, awyobs Tu ara<br />

am mocemulobaSi mmarTvel gunds<br />

vadamdeli arCevnebi?<br />

_ ivaniSvili saprezidento arCevnebis<br />

meore turis win xalxs dahpirda,<br />

erTi welic macadeTo. ukve<br />

naxevari weli gavida da, samwuxarod,<br />

progresi ar igrZnoba. Sei-<br />

Zleba fiqroben, rom 2020 wlamde<br />

am reitings ver SeinarCuneben da<br />

amitomac vadamdeli awyobT. am etapze<br />

maT saxelmwifo moxeleebi da<br />

maTi ojaxis wevrebi uWeren mxars,<br />

isini imdenad „ocnebas” ar uWeren<br />

mxars, ramdenadac sakuTar Tavs.<br />

„ocnebis” wasvlis SemTxvevaSi fiqroben,<br />

rom samsaxuridan gaaTavisufleben<br />

da amitomac uWeren<br />

mxars. mgonia, rom SesaZloa, xelisuflebas<br />

swored amitomac awyobdes<br />

vadamdeli saparlamento<br />

arCevnebis Catareba, Tumca es<br />

garkveul procedurebs moiTxovs.<br />

prezidentma unda daniSnos vadamdeli<br />

arCevnebi, aseve es procedura<br />

iTvaliswinebs parlamentis<br />

daTxovnas, rasac aqvs wesebi, ra<br />

SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba daiTxovos<br />

parlamenti da a. S. mainc mgonia,<br />

rom saparlamento arCevnebi 2020<br />

wels Catardeba. opoziciac iTxovs<br />

vadamdel arCevnebs, Tumca Secvlili<br />

saarCevno sistemiT. rac Seexeba<br />

proporciuli sistemiT Catarebas,<br />

opozicia sxva SemTxvevaSi<br />

vadamdel arCevnebs ar unda das-<br />

Tanxmdes. SesaZlebelia, „veneciis<br />

komisiasTan” da ucxoel partniorebTan<br />

muSaoba im sakiTxze,<br />

rom 2024 wlis nacvlad proporciuli<br />

sistemiT arCevnebi 2020<br />

wlidan Catardes. amis Sesaxeb<br />

saqarTvelos konstituciaSi unda<br />

Sevides cvlileba. dRes saqarTvelos<br />

konstituciaSi dafiqsirebulia,<br />

rom airCeva 150 deputati,<br />

aqedan 77 proporciuli, xolo 73<br />

maJoritaruli wesiT. maJoritaruli<br />

sistema unda gauqmdes. Tu<br />

kanonis uzenaesoba arsebobs, ma-<br />

Joritarul sistemaSi problema<br />

namdvilad ar aris. wminda maJoritaruli<br />

sistemaa did britaneTSi,<br />

mxolod maJoritaruli sistemiT<br />

irCeven TemTa palatis wevrebs;<br />

aseve wminda maJoritaruli sistemaa<br />

aSS-Si, sadac TemTa palatisa<br />

da senatis wevrebs irCeven am<br />

sistemiT; Sereuli sistemaa germaniaSi;<br />

belgiasa da israelSi ki wminda<br />

proporciuli sistemaa; evroparlamenti<br />

erTaderTi arCeviTi<br />

saerTaSoriso struqturaa, sadac<br />

wminda proporciuli sistemiT<br />

irCeven. im SemTxvevaSi Tu kanonis<br />

uzenaesobaa, maJoritaris arCevisas<br />

xelisufleba konkretul saarCevno<br />

olqSi administraciul resurss<br />

ver gamoiyenebs. rodesac<br />

demokratia ar aris qveyanaSi, swored<br />

es qmnis problemas. amitomac<br />

dRes iZulebulebi varT, wminda<br />

proporciul sistemaze gadavideT.<br />

ufro mravalpartiuli da pluralistuli<br />

parlamenti miviRoT.<br />

proporciuli sistemis SemTxveva-<br />

Sic xelisufleba mainc yvelafers<br />

gaakeTebs, rom Zalaufleba SeinarCunos,<br />

Tumca amis Sansi naklebi<br />

eqneba.<br />

_ ra SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba ai-<br />

Zulos opoziciam xelisufleba,<br />

rom daTmos maJoritaruli siste-<br />

ma, garda xelmowerebis Segrovebisa,<br />

rac, SeiZleba iTqvas, arad-<br />

amajereblad JRers?<br />

_ diax, aradamajereblad JRers,<br />

radgan opoziciam unda Seagrovos<br />

milioni xelmowera, Tumca swored<br />

xelmowerebSia saqme. Tu opozicia<br />

Seagrovebs milion xelmoweras da<br />

xelisuflebas Zalas aCvenebs, rom<br />

maT ukan milioni adamiani dgas, es<br />

Zalian mniSvnelovani iqneba. saprezidento<br />

arCevnebis meore turSi,<br />

daaxloebiT, 780 aTasma adamianma<br />

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* saswrafos gamoZaxeba;<br />

* ojaxis eqimis/pediatris konsultacia<br />

klinikaSi an saxlSi gamoZaxebiT;<br />

* profilaqtikuri kvlevebi;<br />

* gadaudebeli da gegmuri ambulatoria;<br />

nino gaCeCilaZe _ samedicino dazRve-<br />

vis direqtori:<br />

„Tibisi dazRveva” bazarze ukve janmrTelobis<br />

dazRvevis produqtiT Semovida.<br />

Cveni produqti mcire, saSualo da didi<br />

zomis kompaniebisTvis iqneba gankuTvnili.<br />

Cven kargad vicnobT kompaniebis Tanam-<br />

Sromlebis saWiroebebsa da qcevas, Sesabamisad,<br />

Cveni produqti maT mTavar preferenciebs<br />

maqsimalurad movargeT _ viciT,<br />

rom rac maT surT, es servisis miRebis<br />

simartive da siswrafea. amis gamoxmaurebaa<br />

swored is mravalferovani cifruli<br />

arxebi, romliTac Cven servisebs vTavazobT.<br />

ivnisidan samedicino anazRaurebis<br />

vebaplikacia eSveba, romlis saSualebiTac<br />

Cvens dazRveulebs servisis miReba Zalian<br />

martivad da swrafad SeeZlebaT. CvenTan<br />

aranairi Tanxobrivi limiti ar arsebobs,<br />

amasTan, 500 laramde Tanxa imave dRes, xolo<br />

500 lars zemoT, maqsimum, 3 dReSi anazRaurdeba.<br />

aseve kompaniebis HR-ebs dazRvevis<br />

procesis gasamartiveblad vebaplikacias<br />

vTavazobT, romlis saSualebiTac Tavis<br />

kompaniaSi Zalian martivad moaxdenen<br />

informaciis mobilizebas da Semdeg, faqtobrivad,<br />

erT Rilakze TiTis daWeriT Se-<br />

Zleben CvenTan, sadazRvevo kompaniaSi, am<br />

informaciis gamogzavnas. ra Tqma unda,<br />

sxva cifruli gadawyvetebic iqneba warmodgenili<br />

da bazarze arsebul moTxovnebs<br />

mudmivad gavaanalizebT da uswrafesad<br />

gamovexmaurebiT”.<br />

ra upiratesobiT gamoirCeva „Tibisi<br />

dazRveva”?<br />

* kargi dafarvebi/maRali limitebi;<br />

* naklebi gamonaklisebi;<br />

* Tavisufleba samedicino dawesebulebis<br />

arCevaSi;<br />

* sazRvargareT mkurnalobis dafinanseba<br />

saukeTeso tarifebiT saqarTveloSi.<br />

va, rac adamianebs sWirdebaT. medicina marto<br />

zarali da anazRaureba ar aris, esaa<br />

adamianis problema, am problemis movla.<br />

es SeiZleba sadazRvevo enaze zaralad<br />

iTargmnebodes, magram CvenTvis es adamiania,<br />

romelsac mixedva da yuradReba sWirdeba.<br />

Cven gvinda, rom im Zvel droSi davbrundeT,<br />

rodesac samedicino sferos warmomadgenlebi<br />

pacientebsa da adamianebze<br />

zrunavdnen da maT dardsa da safiqrals<br />

iziarebdnen. Cven ar unda davelodoT imas,<br />

rodis gaxdeba adamiani avad, Cveni aqcenti<br />

iqneba prevenciaze, rom adamiani avad ar gaxdes.<br />

saubari midis e. w. prevenciul RonisZiebebze,<br />

rodesac adamians gawerili aqvs<br />

Tavisi janmrTelobis gegma da man icis,<br />

janmrTelobis SesanarCuneblad rodis unda<br />

mivides eqimTan vizitze, ra unda gaake-<br />

Tos imisTvis, rom raRac daavadeba adre<br />

gamoavlinos, advilad morCes, jansaRad iyos.<br />

Cven gvinda, rom swored es SevTavazoT<br />

bazars. dRes, realurad, mTeli qarTuli<br />

medicina trialebs avad gaxdomaze _ avad<br />

gaxdi, mixvedi eqimTan, Tanxa gadaixade an<br />

sadazRvevom gadaixada da problema TiTqos<br />

moixsna. magram mimaCnia, rom es mainc<br />

vin isargeblebs „Tibisi dazRvevis”<br />

janmrTelobis dazRveviT?<br />

organizaciebs SeuZliaT daazRvion<br />

TanamSromlebi gamartivebuli procesiT,<br />

risTvisac Seiqmneba vebplatforma, rac<br />

dauzogavs maT administraciul resurssa<br />

da dros.<br />

sadazRvevo nakrebis minimaluri safasuri<br />

38 laria. „Tibisi dazRveva” momxmarebels<br />

sTavazobs 5 nakrebs, romelic erTmaneTisgan<br />

gansxvavdeba limitebiTa da dafarvebiT.<br />

„kargi”, „ukeTesi”, „saukeTeso”,<br />

„saucxoo” da „gansakuTrebuli” _ arCevani<br />

momxmarebelzea, Tu romel nakrebs airCevs.<br />

laSa CxaiZe _ „Tibisi dazRvevis” erTerTi<br />

pirveli klienti, gaerTianebuli safinanso<br />

korporaciis administraciis xe-<br />

lmZRvaneli:<br />

„is faqtorebi, Tu ratom SevaCereT<br />

arCevani „Tibisi dazRvevaze”, pirvel rig-<br />

Si, momsaxurebis xarisxia da Semdeg is individualuri<br />

damokidebuleba, rasac „Tibisi<br />

dazRveva” gvTavazobs. es Cveni kompaniis-<br />

Tvis Zalian mniSvnelovani da misasalmebelia,<br />

amitomac gavakeTeT arCevani „Tibisi<br />

* gadaudebeli da gegmuri hospitaluri<br />

momsaxureba;<br />

* sazRvargareT mkurnaloba;<br />

* medikamentebis anazRaureba;<br />

* gadaudebeli da gegmuri stomatologia;<br />

* orsuloba/mSobiarobis anazRaureba.<br />

anazRaurebis pirobebi<br />

momxmarebels anazRaurebis miReba See-<br />

Zleba „Tibisi dazRvevis” serviscentrebsa<br />

da onlain vebgverdis saSualebiT.<br />

serviscentrebSi anazRaurebisas:<br />

* 500 laramde Tanxa anazRaurdeba myisierad,<br />

xolo 500 larze meti Tanxa, maqsimum,<br />

3 samuSao dReSi.<br />

onlain anazRaurebisas:<br />

* 500 laramde Tanxa anazRaurdeba 1<br />

dReSi angariSze Caricxvis gziT, xolo<br />

500 larze meti Tanxa, maqsimum, 3 samuSao<br />

dReSi.<br />

onlain anazRaureba xelmisawvdomi<br />

gaxdeba ivnisidan vebgverdze, xolo „Tibisi<br />

dazRvevis” serviscentris misamarTia:<br />

aleqsandre yazbegis #24 b .<br />

nene injgia<br />

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23


giorgi abaSiZe<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

rusul okupaciasa da e. w. hibridul omze bevri Tqmula da<br />

dawerila, Tumca dRevandel interviuSi „rusuli gakveTileb-<br />

is” sxva aspeqtze gavamaxvilebT yuradRebas. kerZod, bolo<br />

dros gaaqtiurda mosazreba, rom saqarTvelos damoukideblo-<br />

bis dRis, 26 maiss aRniSvna rusuli narativia. sinamdvileSi,<br />

damoukideblobis dRe 9 aprils unda vizeimoT.<br />

am Temaze „qronika+” baTumis<br />

yofil prefeqts, saqarTvelos<br />

sapatriarqos wminda andria pir-<br />

velwodebulis saxelobis qarTu-<br />

li universitetis qarTvelol-<br />

ogiis centris xelmZRvanels,<br />

profesor tariel futkaraZes<br />

esaubra:<br />

_ erovnuli moZraobis warmo-<br />

madgenelTa mosazrebiT, saqarT-<br />

velos damoukideblobis dRe 26<br />

maiss ki ara, 9 aprils unda aRin-<br />

iSnebodes. batono tariel, es<br />

moTxovna Tu iniciativa gama-<br />

rTlebulia?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, gamarTlebulia.<br />

_ SegiZliaT, dagvisabuToT,<br />

gamarTlebuli ratom aris?<br />

_ amis dasabuTeba Zalian martivia:<br />

msoflios saxelmwifoebis<br />

damoukideblobis dRis aRniSvnas<br />

ramdenime safuZveli aqvs: pirveli<br />

safuZveli konkretuli saxelmwifos<br />

daarsebis dRea; meore _ konkretuli<br />

saxelmwifos istoriaSi<br />

gamorCeuli TariRi, magaliTad,<br />

safrangeTisTvis aseTi TariRi<br />

bastiliis aRebis dRea. rac Seexeba<br />

mesame safuZvels, yvela saxelmwifo,<br />

sxvadasxva dros, dapyrobili<br />

iyo da, Sesabamisad, damoukidebloba<br />

damoukideblobis aRdgenis<br />

dRes aRiniSneba. gekiTxebiT,<br />

saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

aRdgenis dRe romelia?<br />

_ amas ra kiTxva unda? _ 1991<br />

wlis 9 aprili.<br />

_ hoda, Tu msoflios gamocdilebas<br />

gaviTvaliswinebT, saqarTvelos<br />

damoukideblobis dRe saqarTvelos,<br />

rogorc saxelmwifos<br />

dafuZnebis dRe unda iyos, Tumca<br />

es dRe aravin icis, radgan saqarTvelos<br />

saxelmwifo 23 saukunis win<br />

dafuZnda, roca qujim da farnavazma<br />

damoukidebloba aRadgines;<br />

saqarTvelos damoukidebloba aietis<br />

mier istoriuli kolxeTis<br />

dafuZnebis dRes unda vizeimoT,<br />

magram es dRec aravis axsovs. Tu<br />

gvinda, rom damoukideblobis dRe<br />

saqarTvelos istoriis romelime<br />

gamorCeuli TariRi iyos, maSin<br />

aseTi gamorCeuli TariRi didgoris<br />

brZolaa, roca qarTvelobam<br />

evropisken mimavali Turq-seljukebi,<br />

praqtikulad, kavkasionze gaaCera<br />

da saqarTvelos damoukidebloba<br />

aRadgina da ganamtkica. ki<br />

batono, Tanaxma var, rom didgoris<br />

gamarjveba, romelic agvistoSi<br />

aRiniSneba, saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

dRed gamovacxadoT,<br />

magram saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

bolo TariRi _ arc meti,<br />

arc naklebi _ 1991 wlis 9 aprilia,<br />

romelic imave wlis 31 martis<br />

referendumiTaa ganmtkicebuli.<br />

rac Seexeba 26 maiss, es Zalian<br />

gamorCeuli TariRia _ ruseTis<br />

imperiis samefo dinastiis ganadgurebis<br />

Semdeg, 1918 wlis 26 maiss,<br />

saqarTvelom damoukidebloba aRidgina<br />

da pirveli respublika<br />

gamocxadda, romelmac sami weli<br />

iarseba. Sesabamisad, 26 maisi pirveli<br />

respublikis dafuZnebis dRea,<br />

romelsac 70-wliani axali rusuli<br />

okupacia moyva. amis Semdeg ki<br />

saqarTvelom damoukidebloba<br />

1991 wlis 9 aprils aRidgina.<br />

logikurad moazrovne nebismieri<br />

adamiani unda mivides im<br />

daskvnamde, rom radgan saqarTvelos<br />

dafuZnebis dRe ar gvaxsovs<br />

da arc didgori gamogvicxadebia<br />

damoukideblobis dRed, amitom<br />

saqarTvelos damoukidebloba Cveni<br />

qveynis damoukideblobis aRdgenis<br />

bolo dRes, anu 9 aprils<br />

vizeimoT.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, konstituciaSic<br />

ase weria<br />

da, simarTle<br />

giTxraT, ver vxvdebi,<br />

amaSi sakama-<br />

To ra aris.<br />

_<br />

sakamaTo<br />

SeiZleba, araferia,<br />

magram faqtia:<br />

saqarTve-<br />

los damouk<br />

uk-<br />

ideblobis<br />

dRed 26 maisi<br />

iTvleba. ise,<br />

arsebobs mo-<br />

sazreba, rom<br />

1991-92 wleb-<br />

is saxelmwifo<br />

gadatri-<br />

alebis Semdeg<br />

xelisuflebaSi mosulma<br />

Zalebma, saubaria, aria, aw gan-<br />

svenebul SevardnaZesa da mis<br />

garemocvaze, 26 maisi damoukide-<br />

blobis dRed mizanmimarTulad<br />

gamoacxades. amaze ras ityviT?<br />

_ 26 maiss saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

aRniSnva sruli gaugebrobaa<br />

imitom, rom viRacas ar awyobs,<br />

zviad gamsaxurdias mier Catarebuli<br />

referendumi da saqar-<br />

Tvelos damoukideblobis aRdgena<br />

wina planze wamoiwios.<br />

_ es viRac vin aris?<br />

_ cota vulgarulad rom giTxraT,<br />

es klani saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi<br />

1991-92 wlebis putCis<br />

Semdeg movida. es klani sabWoTa<br />

kavSirs ubedurebad ar miiCnevda<br />

da es inercia dRemde grZeldeba.<br />

_ anu saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

dRed 26 maisis gamocxadeba<br />

rusuli narativi da rusu-<br />

li e. w. hibriduli omis Sedegia?<br />

_ saqarTveloSi rusuli narativi<br />

da hibriduli omis nawili<br />

Zalian bevri ramea.<br />

_ saxeldobr?<br />

_ pirveli rusuli narativi 9<br />

aprilis glovis dRed gamocxadebaa.<br />

is, vinc 9 aprils glovis dRed<br />

acxadebs an rusuli sainformacio<br />

omis zegavlenis qveS aris, an rusuli<br />

sainformacio omis ganmaxorcielebelia!<br />

9 aprili damoukideblobis<br />

dRea da ara _ glovis!<br />

mas, vinc 9 aprils glovis dRed<br />

acxadebs, 26 maiss ki _ damoukideblobis,<br />

awyobs, rom sabWoTa rusu-<br />

`yvelaferi<br />

li agresia miCqmalos da ruseTis<br />

imperiaSi saqarTvelos yofna, garkveulwilad,<br />

normad gamoacxados.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, iseTebic arian, romlebic<br />

amboben, 1921 wels saqarTvelos<br />

damoukidebloba de iured ar<br />

gauqmebula da Jordanias devnilobaSi<br />

yofnac damoukideblobis,<br />

ase vTqvaT, veli iyoo. es rusuli<br />

imperiuli agresiis, aneqsiisa da<br />

mamaZaRlobis erTgvari gafermkrTalebaa!<br />

isic rusuli imperiuli velis<br />

da hibriduli omis nawilia, rom<br />

damkvidrebulia terminebi: „qarTul-afxazurri<br />

konfliqti”, „qarTul-osuri<br />

konfliqti” da a. S. sinamdvileSi,<br />

saqarTveloSi aranairi<br />

qarTul-afxazuri konfliqti<br />

ar yofila da arc aris. is afxazebi,<br />

romlebic saqarTvelosTan<br />

konfliqtSi Semovidnen, separatistebi<br />

ar iyvnen.<br />

_ aba, vin iyvnen?<br />

_ isini rusebisgan dafinansebuli<br />

„tipebi” iyvnen, maT Soris, qarTvelebi,<br />

afsuebi da somxebi. Zalian<br />

bevri afxazi megobari myavs.<br />

isini baTumsa da TbilisSi cxovroben.<br />

aseve myavs soxumeli studen-<br />

tariel futkaraZe:<br />

`dasavleTs<br />

ruseTTan<br />

urTierTobis<br />

garTulebis<br />

eSinia da<br />

amitom Cven<br />

gvwiravs!~<br />

rusuli hibriduli<br />

omis mamaZaRlobebi da<br />

stereotipuli<br />

diversia saqarTvelos<br />

winaaRmdeg<br />

tebi da maT qarTvelobasTan garTuleba<br />

ar aqvT. amas imitom vambob,<br />

rom aranairi qarTul-afxazuri<br />

eTnikuri dapirispireba ar<br />

arsebobs.<br />

aseve ar arsebobs qarTul-osuri<br />

eTnikuri dapirispireba _<br />

quTaissa da TbilisSi Cemi mezoblebi<br />

osebi arian, magram maT-<br />

Tan problemebi ar maqvs.<br />

mokled, prorusulad ganwyobili<br />

osebi da afxazebi separatistebi<br />

ki ara, kolaboracionistebi<br />

arian.<br />

_ separatistsa da kolabora-<br />

cionists Soris ra gansxvavebaa?<br />

_ mas, visac damoukidebloba ki<br />

ara, sxva qveyanasTan SeerTeba<br />

unda, kolaboracionisti hqvia.<br />

ase rom, saqarTveloSi terminologiuri<br />

da stereotipuli diversiaa.<br />

amis magaliTia Tundac<br />

mTavrobis mier Seqmnili Serigebis<br />

saministro. vis unda Sevurigde,<br />

roca afxazi da osic rusuli imperiisgan<br />

CemsaviT daCagrulia da<br />

Cven ruseTTan omi gvaqvs?! aseTi<br />

mamaZaRlobebi dRevandel mTavrobaSic<br />

arsebobs da, saerTod, am<br />

mTavrobaSi putCisturi mTavrobis<br />

mier Seqmnili azrovneba darCenilia!<br />

_ batono tariel, ambobT, rom<br />

9 aprili glovis dRe ar unda<br />

iyoso, magram faqtia: am dRes<br />

adamianebi daiRupnen da maT xs-<br />

ovnas pativi ar unda mivagoT?<br />

_ Zalian Wkviani Jurnalisti<br />

xarT, SegekiTxebiT da mipasuxeT:<br />

didgoris omis dros, Turq-seljukebTan<br />

brZolaSi, qarTveloba<br />

daiRupa Tu ara?<br />

_ amas ra kiTxva unda? _ ra<br />

Tqma unda, daiRupa!<br />

_ isini gmirebi arian!<br />

_ diax, asea!<br />

_ 9 aprili ruseTis imperiasTan<br />

omi iyo, ra drosac adamianebi<br />

daiRupnen da es adamianebi gmirebi<br />

arian! msxverpli maSinaa, roca,<br />

vTqvaT, xaragaulSi Cineli gvirabs<br />

aSenebs, es gvirabi Camoingreva da<br />

qarTveli an Cineli daiRupeba.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, 9 aprilis monawile<br />

mec var, magram roca 8 aprils<br />

rusTavelis gamzirze mivdiodi,<br />

ojaxs vuTxari, SeiZleba, cocxali<br />

ver davbrunde-meTqi, anu me<br />

saqarTvelosTvis omSi wavedi! es<br />

damoukideblobisTvis brZola iyo<br />

24<br />

`26 maiss saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />

aRniSnva sruli gaugebrobaa imitom, rom<br />

viRacas ar awyobs, zviad gamsaxurdias mier<br />

Catarebuli referendumi da saqarTvelos<br />

damoukideblobis aRdgena wina planze<br />

wamoiwios. cota vulgarulad rom giTxraT,<br />

es klani saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi 1991-92<br />

wlebis putCis Semdeg movida. es klani<br />

sabWoTa kavSirs ubedurebad ar miiCnevda da<br />

es inercia dRemde grZeldeba~<br />

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da roca brZolaa an mokvdebi, an<br />

gadarCebi! Tu am brZolaSi mokvdebi,<br />

gmiri xar da Tu gadarCebi,<br />

mainc gmiri xar!<br />

_ Tqveni argumenti absoluturad<br />

logikuria imis sademonstraciod,<br />

Tu ratom ar SeiZle-<br />

ba, 9 aprili glovis dRe iyos...<br />

sxvaTa Soris, damoukidebelma<br />

deputatma nato CxeiZem parla-<br />

ments kanonproeqti warudgina da<br />

moiTxova, rom saqarTvelos<br />

damoukidebloba 9 aprils ofi-<br />

cialurad aRiniSnos, Tumca<br />

kanonmdeblebma sakomiteto mos-<br />

menebze am iniciativas mxari ar<br />

dauWires. karga xania, SevardnaZis<br />

mmarTveloba warsuls Cabarda.<br />

Sesabamisad, batono tariel,<br />

politikuri elitis mier 9 apri-<br />

lis uaryofas riT xsniT?<br />

_ es imiT aixsneba, rom dRevandel<br />

xelisuflebaSi SevardnaZis<br />

mimdevari an misi stereotipiT<br />

moazrovne adamiani Zalian bevria!<br />

_ yvelafer aqedan gamom-<br />

dinare, SeiZleba vTqvaT, rom<br />

saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg rusuli<br />

hibriduli omi gamZafrebulia?<br />

_ diax, gamZafrebulia!<br />

dRes saqarTvelos Tavze Zalian<br />

bevri problema damokles maxviliviT<br />

kidia, maT Soris, rusuli<br />

okupacia, anakliis portis sakiTxi,<br />

dasavleTis gzajvaredini, anu<br />

ruseTisa da TurqeTis gamyarebuli<br />

kavSiris fonze dasavleTs er-<br />

TaderTi Sansi aqvs, rom aliansTan<br />

gza kavkasiaSi saqarTvelo iyos.<br />

mokled, yvelaferi es saqarTvelos<br />

Tavze Rrublebad aris Tavmoyrili<br />

da msoflio dapirispirebis<br />

epicentrSi varT. roca dapirispirebis<br />

epicentrSi xar, TavisTavad<br />

cxadia, rom agenturac Zalian<br />

gaaqtiurebulia da diversiuli<br />

Tu sainformacio omi zenitSia.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, is xanZrebic, rac<br />

bolo wlebSi saqarTveloSi moxda,<br />

swored am diversiis nawilia.<br />

piradad me ki, yvelaze metad is<br />

maRizianebs, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

saxelmwifo enis _ qarTulis sruli<br />

ignorireba xdeba, anu politikosebi,<br />

magaliTad, marneulSi rom<br />

Cadian, adgilobriv mosaxleobas<br />

ucxo enaze esaubrebian, ase iqcevian<br />

samegreloSic.<br />

mokled, yvelaferi es erT konteqstSia<br />

gasaazrebeli. politikuri<br />

speqtri ver acnobierebs,<br />

Tu ra terminologias iyenebs da<br />

amitom, avtomaturad, erT adgilze<br />

vtrialebT.<br />

aq erT Sedarebas moviyvan: imisTvis,<br />

rom moses xalxs udabno<br />

gadaelaxa, sami Tve sWirdeboda,<br />

magram sazogadoeba dezorientirebuli<br />

iyo da amitom am udabnos<br />

gadasalaxad 40 weli dasWirda.<br />

dRes Cveni sazogadoeba dezorientirebuli<br />

mxolod gaurkvevlobis<br />

ki ara, politikuri speqtrisa<br />

da telemediis gamoc aris.<br />

_ batono tariel, yvelaferi,<br />

rasac ambobT, mizanmimarTulad<br />

keTdeba?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda.<br />

_ politikuri speqtri sazogadoebis<br />

dezorientaciis miTiTe-<br />

bas, Tqveni azriT, saidan iRebs?<br />

_ politikuri speqtris didi<br />

nawili garedan dafinansebuli da<br />

marTvadia, nawili ki ucodinaria<br />

da problemebSi ver erkveva. politikuri<br />

speqtris nawili kargia,<br />

magram es nawili Zalian mcirea da<br />

misi xma ar ismis!<br />

_ konkretikaze gadavideT: magaliTad,<br />

roca salome zurabiSvili<br />

ambobs, rom 2008 wlis agvis-<br />

toSi omi saqarTvelom daiwyo, es<br />

ucodinarobis niadagze wamocdenaa<br />

Tu garedan marTva-dafinanse-<br />

bis Sedegia? sxvaTa Soris, axlax-<br />

an genStabis ufrosma brZana,<br />

saqarTvelom sami samoqalaqo omi<br />

gadaitanao da es gancxadeba<br />

rusul narativad moinaTla...<br />

_ genStabis ufross saqarTvelos<br />

istoriaze warmodgenac ar<br />

aqvs, radgan saqarTveloSi erTi<br />

samoqalaqo omic ar yofila!<br />

_ aba, 1991-92 wlebis sisxliani<br />

movlenebi ra iyo?<br />

_ 1991-92 wlebSi zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

xelisufleba rusis jarma<br />

daamxo. 1992-93 wlebSi soxumsa da<br />

cxinvalSic ruseTi gvebrZoda, magram,<br />

rogorc ityvian, leRvis<br />

foTlad qarTvelebis, afxazebisa<br />

da osebis nawili hyavda afarebuli!<br />

saerTod, bolo ori saukunis<br />

N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

dabeWdeT!~<br />

`Tu ivaniSvili<br />

gamsaxurdias mkvlelobas<br />

da mis Tanmdev movlenebs<br />

ar gamoiZiebs, es misTvis<br />

katastrofa iqneba, magram<br />

Tu gamoiZiebs, es misi<br />

gadarCena iqneba!~<br />

ganmavlobaSi rusebma kavkasielebis<br />

winaaRmdeg kavkasielebive araerTxel<br />

gamoiyenes!<br />

rac Seexeba zurabiSvilis frazas,<br />

omi saqarTvelom daiwyoo,<br />

rogorc vici, mere ganmarta, ase ar<br />

miTqvamso. ar vici, zurabiSvils<br />

gulSi ra hqonda da ra wamoscda,<br />

magram erT Zalian martiv da zust<br />

frazas getyviT: ruseTma saqarTveloSi<br />

da, zogadad, kavkasiaSi omi<br />

zustad ori saukunis win, anu ma-<br />

Sin daiwyo, roca saqarTveloSi mefoba<br />

da eklesiis avtokefalia<br />

gaauqma. amiT gaanadgura Cveni kultura<br />

da yvelaferi. es oraswliani<br />

omi dRemde grZeldeba!<br />

ruseTis mizania, rom geostrategiulad<br />

saintereso kavkasia<br />

Tavis interesebs dauqvemdebaros<br />

da mas qarTvelebic fexze hkidia,<br />

somxebic, azerbaijanelebic, CeCnebic,<br />

afsuebic, inguSebic da a. S.!<br />

_ batono tariel, kidev erTi<br />

Tema, romelic pirdapir Tu iri-<br />

bad rusul okupacias ebmis,<br />

saqarTvelos pirveli preziden-<br />

tis, zviad gamsaxurdias mkvlel-<br />

obaa. es sakiTxi bolo dros „qar-<br />

Tulma ocnebam” gaaaqtiura _ yve-<br />

lafers Tavi rom davaneboT, biZ-<br />

ina ivaniSvili xibulaSi Cavida da<br />

is saxli moinaxula, sadac gamsax-<br />

urdia aResrula. es Cveulebrivi,<br />

lokaluri piaria Tu rusuli<br />

hibriduli omis nawili?<br />

_ qveteqstebis gareSe gipasuxebT,<br />

oRond yvelaferi dabeWdeT.<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, yvelafers si-<br />

tyva-sityviT gamovaqveynebT!<br />

_ roca 2004 wlis 4 ianvars mixeil<br />

saakaSvili saqarTvelos prezidenti<br />

gaxda, meore dRes, 5 ianvars,<br />

misive TxovniT Sevxvdi mas.<br />

miSasTan garkveuli urTierToba<br />

adrec mqonda da presaSi Cven Soris<br />

polemikac arsebobda. mokled,<br />

am Sexvedris Semdeg gadawyda, ufro<br />

sworad, rogorc prezidentma,<br />

gadawyvita, rom saxelmwifo komisia<br />

Seeqmna, romlis mizanic zviad<br />

gamsaxurdias mkvlelobisa da misi<br />

Tanmdevi procesebis gamoZieba iqneboda.<br />

prezident saakaSvilis gankargulebis<br />

teqstSi ikiTxeboda,<br />

rom es gamsaxurdias mkvlelobisa<br />

da putCis gamosaZiebeli komisia<br />

iyo. am komisiis wevrebi viyaviT: me,<br />

merabiSvili, adeiSvili, oqruaSvili,<br />

manana tabiZe, merab rafava<br />

da giorgi andriaZe.<br />

amave komisiis farglebSi prokuraturis<br />

komisiac Seiqmna, romelmac<br />

ori-sami Tve imuSava da daadgina,<br />

rom gamsaxurdia damnaSave<br />

ar iyo da araferi gautacia. amitom<br />

dadga sakiTxi, rom is gamogveZiebina,<br />

gamsaxurdias, rogorc damnaSavis<br />

winaaRmdeg, saqme vin aRZra,<br />

anu, realurad, SevardnaZis saqme<br />

unda gamogveZiebina, magram, ai, aq<br />

saakaSvili „gaiWeda”.<br />

_ ras niSnavs, „gaiWeda”?<br />

_ gamoZieba aRar gagvagrZelebina<br />

da Cvendami mocemuli piroba-gankarguleba,<br />

rom gamsaxurdias<br />

mkvlelobas gamoiZiebda, gaaCera.<br />

es saqme dRemde gaCerebulia.<br />

zogadad, gamsaxurdias mkvlelobis<br />

gamoZieba mxolod am mkvlelobis<br />

ki ara, aramed, putCisa da<br />

sxva Tanmdevi movlenebis gamoZiebac<br />

unda iyos, rac saerTaSoriso<br />

Temebze gadis.<br />

_ anu?<br />

_ gamsaxurdias xelisufleba<br />

baltinTan garigebiT daemxo.<br />

_ batono tariel, mapatieT,<br />

magram me sxva kiTxva davsvi, anu<br />

„ocnebas” gamsaxurdias saqmis gacocxleba<br />

raSi awyobs _ pia-<br />

risTvis iyenebs?<br />

_ yvelafer amas imitom giyvebiT,<br />

rom es istoriaa.<br />

_ am istoriaze „qronika+~-ma<br />

ramdenime kviris win merab<br />

rafavasTan vrceli interviu ga-<br />

moaqveyna.<br />

_ dRes ivaniSvili ambobs, rom<br />

gamsaxurdias mkvleloba gamoZiebuli<br />

unda iyos. es saakaSvilmac<br />

Tqva, magram ver ganaxorciela, anu<br />

SeiZleba, es gancxadeba ivaniSvilma<br />

winasaarCevnod gaakeTa, magram<br />

arsebobs albaToba, rom araferi<br />

gamoiZios, Tumca SeiZleba, gamoiZios<br />

kidec. mokled, vnaxoT.<br />

_ batono tariel, meCveneba,<br />

rom kiTxvaze ar mpasuxobT, amit-<br />

om CagekiTxebiT: marTalia, roca<br />

gazeTi daibeWdeba, 19 maisis<br />

arCevnebi ukve Catarebuli iqne-<br />

ba, magram zugdidSi manana arCv-<br />

aZis Casvlam bevrs gauCina eWvi,<br />

rom „ocneba” gamsaxurdias ojaxs<br />

politikuri piarisTvis iyenebs.<br />

aqve arc is unda dagvaviwydes,<br />

rom is, vinc samegreloSi „ocneb-<br />

is” erT-erTi saxea, gamsaxurdias<br />

devnis operaciaSi monawileobda<br />

da amaze cotne gamsaxurdiam Riad<br />

ganacxada. erTi sityviT, Tqveni<br />

SefasebiT, es ra TamaSia?<br />

_ imaze pasuxi, vin ra TamaSs TamaSobs,<br />

ar maqvs, magram im Temaze,<br />

rac mkiTxeT, konkretulad gipasuxebT:<br />

putCisa da zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

mkvlelobis gamoZiebaze ivaniSvilisa<br />

da misi xelisuflebis gancxadebebi<br />

winasaarCevno dapirebaa<br />

Tu realoba, ai, es aris gasarkvevi.<br />

Tu ivaniSvili gamsaxurdias mkvlelobas<br />

da mis Tanmdev movlenebs<br />

ar gamoiZiebs, es misTvis katastrofa<br />

iqneba, magram Tu gamoiZiebs,<br />

es misi gadarCena iqneba!<br />

_ saubars isev rusuli hibrid-<br />

uli omiT davasruleb, Tqveni<br />

dakvirvebiT, kremlisgan ra sa-<br />

frTxes unda velodoT?<br />

_ saqarTvelos Zalian didi safrTxeebi<br />

elis imitom, rom ruseTs<br />

giumris bazasTan saxmeleTo<br />

kavSiri de iured ar gaaCnia. amas-<br />

Tan, ruseTs Tavisi imperiuli ambiciebisTvis<br />

kavkasiis kontroli<br />

sWirdeba.<br />

erTi sityviT, saqarTvelo,<br />

rogorc ityvian, saxmeleTo da<br />

sahaero xazebis didi yuradRebis<br />

centrSia. amitom ar vfiqrob, rom<br />

mSvidi cxovrebis perspeqtiva gvaqvs,<br />

Tumca RmerTma icis, procesebi<br />

rogor ganviTardeba _ iqneb,<br />

saqarTvelo gadarCes!<br />

_ opoziciuri speqtris nawili<br />

amtkicebs, rom xelisufleba<br />

saqarTvelos ruseTs abarebs. amis<br />

niSnebs xedavT?<br />

_ ara, am niSnebs ver vxedav!<br />

_ ucnauria!<br />

_ piriqiT, vxedav, rom amerikis<br />

SeerTebuli StatebisTvis aziasa<br />

da, kerZod, kavkasiaSi, erTaderTi<br />

dasayrdeni saqarTveloa da Tu<br />

Wkua eyofa, Cveni damoukidebloba<br />

da aseve qarTul faseulobebze<br />

orientirebuli saxelmwifo struqturebi<br />

unda ganaviTaros!<br />

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu saqarTvelo<br />

antidasavlurad ganwyobili Zalebis<br />

xelSi Cavardeba da aseTi Zala<br />

marto ruseTi ar aris, maSin dasavleTi<br />

ekonomikuri da sxva mimarTulebebiTac<br />

bevrs waagebs!<br />

_ yvelaferi es gasagebia, magram<br />

qarTul politikur speqtr-<br />

Si rusuli specsamsaxurebis gav-<br />

lenas grZnobT?<br />

_ es sxva kiTxvaa, romelzedac<br />

ase gipasuxebT: Cveni politikuri<br />

speqtri saqarTvelos winaSe mdgari<br />

gamowvevebisadmi araadekvaturia!<br />

_ Cveni mTavari gamowveva ra<br />

aris?<br />

_ mTavari gamowveva is aris, rom<br />

rusul okupacias Tavi davaRwioT!<br />

_ bolo Svidi welia, mcocavi<br />

okupacia mZvinvarebs da rusul<br />

okupacias Tavi rogor unda da-<br />

vaRwioT?<br />

_ rusul okupacias Tavi rom<br />

davaRwioT, amisTvis saWiroa, wina<br />

planze saqarTvelos erTguli<br />

politikuri speqtri gamovides!<br />

zogadad, politikuri speqtri<br />

qveynis mesaWea, amitom es saWe aTas<br />

partiagamocvlil da gaurkveveli<br />

orientirebis mqone adamianebs ar<br />

unda epyraT!<br />

_ erovnul interesebze orien-<br />

tirebuli politikuri speqtri<br />

wina planze TavisiT gamova Tu<br />

amas sazogadoebam unda Seuwyos<br />

xeli?<br />

_ amas dro unda.<br />

_ 30 welia, es dro riT ver<br />

movida?<br />

_ weRan xom giTxariT, rom<br />

moses xalxs udabnos gadasalaxavad<br />

sami Tve sWirdeboda. sanam sazogadoebaSi<br />

saqarTvelos erTguli<br />

adamianebi ar gaaqtiurdebian<br />

da cxrapartiagamocvlil xalxs<br />

ar gaamarginaleben, manamde saqar-<br />

Tvelos bednieri cxovreba ar uweria!<br />

Tu mosaxleoba da politikuri<br />

speqtri erTiani iqneba, win<br />

iolad da swrafad wavalT!<br />

_ dRes politikuri speqtri<br />

gamyidvelia?<br />

_ diax, dRes arsebuli politikuri<br />

speqtris didi nawili sando<br />

ar aris!<br />

_ am mocemulobidan gamomdinare,<br />

nato da evrokavSiri Ta-<br />

vianT rigebSi ratom ar gviReben?<br />

_ dasavleTma Secdoma araerTxel<br />

dauSva, maT Soris, 90-ian wleb-<br />

Si, roca gamsaxurdias mxari ar<br />

dauWira da, saboloo jamSi, baltinis<br />

garigebis tyve aRmoCnda. dasavleTma<br />

Secdoma 2008-Sic dauSva,<br />

roca mapi ar mogvca da ruseTs<br />

saqarTveloSi SemoWris Sansi misca.<br />

dasavleTi Secdomas axlac<br />

uSvebs _ dasavleTi saqarTvelos<br />

ki ar sWirdeba, aramed ufro mas<br />

vWirdebiT, magram dasavleTs ruseTTan<br />

urTierTobis garTulebis<br />

eSinia da amitom Cven gvwiravs!<br />

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Tamar rostiaSvili<br />

577 10 07 06<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi atmos-<br />

feruli haeris dabinZureba fasdeboda „garemos xarisxobrivi<br />

mdgomareobis normebis damtkicebis Sesaxeb” jandacvis minis-<br />

tris 2001 wlis 16 agvistos #297/n brZanebis Sesabamisad, rom-<br />

liTac dadgenili mavne nivTierebebis zRvruli mniSvnelobebi<br />

ar Seesabameboda evrokavSiris standartebs. amasTan, doku-<br />

mentiT saerTod ar iyo reglamentirebuli calkeuli<br />

sagulisxmo damabinZureblebis (myari nawilakebi (PM10 da PM2.5)<br />

zRvruli mniSvnelobebi. aRniSnuli problema, normatiul<br />

doneze, aRmoifxvra saqarTvelos mTavrobis 2018 wlis 27 ivlisis<br />

#383 dadgenilebiT damtkicebuli teqnikuri regla-<br />

mentiT _ „atmosferuli haeris xarisxis standartebi”.<br />

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dabinZurebuli<br />

skandaluri faqtebi, statistikuri monacemebi,<br />

gamoTxovili angariSebi da meriis tyuilebi<br />

magram ra?<br />

ombudsmenis aparatma ssip garemos<br />

erovnuli saagentodan gamoiTxova<br />

informacia imis Sesaxeb,<br />

Tu 2017-2018 wlebSi ramden SemTxvevaSi<br />

gamovlinda atmosferul<br />

haerSi damabinZurebeli nivTierebebis<br />

zRvruli koncentraciis<br />

gadaWarbeba da ra maCvenebliT.<br />

dasaxelebuli monacemebi, moTxovnili<br />

saxiT, aparats ar moewoda.<br />

amis Semdeg avtomaturi sadgurebidan<br />

miRebuli damabinZureblebis<br />

saSualo Tviuri koncentraciebisa<br />

da meore mxriv, araavtomaturi<br />

sadgurebidan miRebuli damabinZureblebis<br />

maqsimaluri erTjeradi<br />

koncentraciebiT iqna gamoyvanili<br />

dabinZurebis saSualo<br />

maCvenebeli.<br />

kerZod, TbilisSi, quTaisSi, ba-<br />

Tumsa da WiaTuraSi ganTavsebuli<br />

avtomaturi sadgurebidan miRebuli<br />

monacemebi (ZiriTadi damabin-<br />

Zureblebis saSualo Tviuri koncentraciebi)<br />

erTi kalendaruli<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi, TiTqmis yvela<br />

damabinZureblis koncentraciebi<br />

sakmaod xSirad aRemateba zRvrulad<br />

dasaSveb normebs sxvadasxva<br />

lokaciaze. es monacemebi kidev er-<br />

Txel adasturebs qveyanaSi haeris<br />

dabinZurebis problemis simwvaves.<br />

atmosferuli haeris dabinZureba<br />

msoflios winaSe mdgari erTerTi<br />

umniSvnelovanesi gamowvevaa.<br />

igi dakavSirebulia garemosdamcvel<br />

da socialur problemebTan.<br />

dabinZureba xdeba rogorc anTropogenuli<br />

anu adamianis moqmedebebiT<br />

gamowveuli, ise bunebrivi<br />

wyaroebidan damabinZureblebis<br />

pirdapir gafrqvevis gziT. Sedegad,<br />

mavne nivTierebebis koncentracia<br />

uaryofiTad aisaxeba cocxali<br />

organizmebis janmrTelobaze,<br />

es ki umwvavesad zemoqmedebs rogorc<br />

sazogadoebis ToToeul wevrze,<br />

ise qveynis ekonomikaze.<br />

sanam Tbilisis yvelaze dabinZurebul<br />

zonebze gadavidodeT,<br />

jer damabinZureblebi CamovTvaloT.<br />

saqarTveloSi atmosferuli<br />

haeris mniSvnelovani damabin-<br />

Zureblebia: gogirdis dioqsidi<br />

(SO2), azotis dioqsidi (NO2), azotis<br />

oqsidebi (NOx), naxSirbadis<br />

monoqsidi (CO), miwispira ozoni<br />

(O3) da mtvris mcire zomis myari<br />

nawilakebi (PM10, PM2.5).<br />

haeris dabinZurebis adamianis<br />

moqmedebebiT gamowveul faq-<br />

torebs miekuTvneba _ satransporto<br />

gamonabolqvi, wvis procesi,<br />

sasoflo-sameurneo aqtivobebi,<br />

samrewvelo saqmianobebi da a.S.<br />

Cvens qveyanaSi moqmedebs ori<br />

ZiriTadi dokumenti, romelmac,<br />

wesiT, es sakiTxi unda daareguliros.<br />

es aris: saqarTvelos kanoni<br />

„garemos dacvis Sesaxeb” da saqarTvelos<br />

kanoni „atmosferuli<br />

haeris dacvis Sesaxeb” (aseve maTgan<br />

gamomdinare kanonqvemdebare<br />

normatiuli aqtebi). Tumca uSualod<br />

atmosferuli haeris dacva<br />

mavne anTropogenuri zemoqmedebisgan<br />

„atmosferuli haeris dacvis<br />

Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos kanonis regulirebis<br />

sferos ganekuTvneba. es<br />

kanoni qmnis atmosferul haerSi<br />

mavne nivTierebaTa koncentraciis<br />

zRvrulad dasaSveb normebs.<br />

gogirdis dioqsidis (SO2) emisiis<br />

ZiriTad wyaros gogirdSemcveli<br />

sawvavis wva warmoadgens. gafrqvevebi<br />

ZiriTadad mazuTze an qvanaxSirze<br />

momuSave eleqtrosadgurebidan,<br />

saqvabeebidan, metalurgiuli<br />

sawarmoebidan, gogirdis ma-<br />

Rali Semcvelobis saavtomobilo<br />

sawvavis moxmarebidan xdeba.<br />

azotis dioqsidebis (NO2) gafrqvevis<br />

ZiriTadi wyaroa avtomobilebis<br />

gamonabolqvi, bunebrivi<br />

airis namwvi, Tboeleqtrosadgurebis<br />

gamonabolqvi, narCenebis wvis<br />

dros warmoqmnili kvamli da a. S.<br />

aRsaniSnavia, rom dizelis moxmarebis<br />

Sedegad ufro didi raodenobis<br />

azotis dioqsidi gaifrqveva,<br />

vidre sawvavis moxmarebis<br />

Sedegad.<br />

naxSirbadis monoqsidi (CO) warmoiqmneba<br />

sawvavis arasruli wvisas.<br />

emisiis ZiriTadi wyaroa nav-<br />

Tobisa da qvanaxSiris wva, metalurgiuli<br />

warmoeba, avtotransportis<br />

gamonabolqvi Sidawvis Zravis<br />

gaumarTaobis Sedegad.<br />

miwispira ozoni (O3) haerSi pirdapir<br />

ar gaifrqveva. misi formirebis<br />

procesi kompleqsuria da damokidebulia<br />

mzis sinaTleze, geografiul<br />

faqtorebsa da pirvelad<br />

damabinZureblebze. fotoqimiuri<br />

reaqciebis Sedegad warmoqmnili<br />

ozonis koncentraciis mateba atmosferos<br />

qveda fenebSi SeiniSneba<br />

zafxulis periodSi dRis sinaTleze.<br />

haerSi arsebuli ozonisa da<br />

pirveladi damabinZureblebis raodenobrivi<br />

Tanafardoba meryeobs<br />

adgilmdebareobis, sezonisa da temperaturis<br />

Sesabamisad.<br />

`vaSingtonis universitetis janmrTelobis<br />

gazomvebisa da Sefasebis institutis mier<br />

Catarebuli daavadebaTa globaluri tvirTis<br />

Sefasebis mixedviT, saqarTvelosTvis<br />

mniSvnelovani da wamyvani risk-faqtorebis<br />

nusxaSi haeris dabinZurebas, maRali<br />

arteriuli wnevis, kvebiTi riskebis, Tambaqos<br />

moxmarebis maRali donisa da Warbi wonis<br />

Semdeg me-5 adgili uWiravs~<br />

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naerTebi (aon) da amiaki<br />

(NH3). aqroladi organuli naerTebis<br />

gafrqvevis wyaroa qimikatebi,<br />

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ki soflis meurneobisa da nar-<br />

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aqrolad organul naerTebs mniSvnelovani<br />

wvlili miuZRvis troposferuli<br />

ozonis warmoqmnaSi,<br />

rac negatiurad aisaxeba adamianis<br />

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frqvevebis SemTxvevebze saTanado<br />

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Turasa da baTumSi, qaTamaZis qu-<br />

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Camoweras, yvela maTgani muSaobs dizelis sawvavze); `bogdan A1445"-is markis<br />

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_ airze momuSave, xolo 5.7% _<br />

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45.5% (593 141 manqanaze gaTvlili)<br />

20 welze Zveli iyo. rac Seexeba<br />

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12.3% _ dizelis Zraviani, 7.4% _<br />

airze momuSave, 95 3.2% _ hibridi,<br />

xolo 0.1% _ eleqtro Zraviani.<br />

miuxedavad ekologiurad suf-<br />

Ta avtotransportis waxalisebis<br />

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teritoriaze dadgenili wesiT<br />

registrirebuli yvela kategoriis<br />

avtosatransporto saSualeba.<br />

gagrZeleba 28-e gv.<br />

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27-e gverdidan 148 (gamoSvebis welia 2008, muSaobs<br />

dizelis sawvavze); „manis” markis<br />

miuxedavad amisa, 2020 wlis pirvel<br />

ianvramde ar aris savaldeb-<br />

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143 (maTi gamoSvebis wlebia 2016<br />

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8 m2 -s Seadgens, Tumca Se-<br />

dabinZurebuli<br />

qalaqi<br />

skandaluri<br />

faqtebi,<br />

statistikuri<br />

monacemebi,<br />

gamoTxovili<br />

angariSebi da<br />

meriis tyuilebi<br />

ri konvertorebis gverdis avliT.<br />

calke Temaa avtobusebis sakiTxi.<br />

atmosferuli haeris dacvis<br />

kuTxiT gansakuTrebiT problemuri<br />

iyo wlebis ganmavlobaSi dedaqalaqSi<br />

arsebuli municipaluri<br />

transportis mdgomareoba. saxelmwifo<br />

auditis samsaxuris 2018<br />

wlis 31 ianvris efeqtianobis auditis<br />

angariSis Sesabamisad, 2017<br />

wels TbilisSi arsebuli, periodul<br />

teqnikur inspeqtirebas daqvemdebarebuli<br />

673 avtobusidan 106<br />

456 maTganma (68%) inspeqtireba ver<br />

gaiara. pirveladi inspeqtirebis<br />

Sedegad xarveziani aRmoCnda SedarebiT<br />

axali, lurji MAN-is, 143<br />

avtobusidan 4 erTeuli. miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom msgavsi avtobusebis<br />

eqspluatacia saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT<br />

dauSvebelia, mgzavrTa<br />

gadaadgilebis Seferxebis Tavidan<br />

acilebis mizniT, satransporto<br />

kompania mainc uSvebda xazze gaumarTav<br />

satransporto saSualebebs,<br />

rac kanonis darRvevaa. ase rom,<br />

Tbilisis satransporto kompaniidan<br />

miRebuli uaxlesi informaciis<br />

Sesabamisad, mocemuli etapisTvis,<br />

yoveldRiurad xazze samuSaod<br />

gadis 552 avtobusi. zogadad,<br />

2016 wlidan dRemde Tbilisis<br />

satransporto kompaniis balansze<br />

iricxeba 817 avtobusi, aqedan<br />

_ „bogdan A092"-is markis 521 (maTi<br />

gamoSvebis wlebi: 2005 wels _ 87<br />

avtobusi, 2006 wels _ 57 avtobusi,<br />

2007 wels _ 364 avtobusi da<br />

2008 wels _ 13 avtobusi, 14 avtobusi<br />

eqvemdebareba Camoweras, yvela<br />

maTgani muSaobs dizelis sawvavze);<br />

„bogdan A1445"-is markis _<br />

istos tenderSi monawile kompania<br />

Sps „Tegeta Traq end basTan” gaformda<br />

xelSekruleba, romelmac<br />

unda uzrunvelyos germanul kompania<br />

Man Truck and Bus AG-is mier<br />

poloneTSi damzadebuli zemoaRniSnuli<br />

standartis 90 avtobusis<br />

mowodeba etapobrivad, xelSekrulebis<br />

gaformebis TariRidan<br />

araugvianes 9 Tvis vadaSi. Tumca<br />

aRsaniSnavia, rom miuxedavad<br />

msgavsi avtobusebis teqnikuri gamarTulobisa,<br />

rasac ganapirobebs<br />

transportis maxasiaTeblebis<br />

Sesabamisoba evrokavSiris standartebTan,<br />

mainc arsebobs maTi<br />

mxridan haeris dabinZurebis safrTxe,<br />

ramdenadac saqarTveloSi<br />

uSualod dizelis sawvavis xarisxis<br />

mimarT arsebuli moTxovnebi<br />

sakmaod dabalia da Sesabamisi<br />

direqtiviT dadgenil moTxovnebs<br />

ar Seesabameba.<br />

rac Seexeba arsebul mikroavtobusebs,<br />

akreditaciis centridan<br />

miRebuli informaciis Tanaxmad,<br />

2017 wlis 4 aprilidan 6 oqtombris<br />

CaTvliT, perioduli teqnikuri<br />

inspeqtirebisTvis gamocxadda<br />

1255 mikroavtobusi, romelTagan<br />

gzisTvis uvargisi aRmoCnda<br />

68 erTeuli. Tumca, mikroavtobusebis<br />

mflobeli kompaniebis ganmartebiT,<br />

yvela msgavs avtosatransporto<br />

saSualebas, 2016 wlidan<br />

2018 wlis 10 oqtombris CaTvliT,<br />

gavlili aqvs savaldebulo teqnikuri<br />

inspeqtireba saqarTvelos<br />

kanonmdeblobiT dadgenili wesiT.<br />

axla, gadavideT sawvavis xarisxze!<br />

rogorc gvicxadeben, saqarTv-<br />

gogirdis Semcvelobis zRvruli<br />

mniSvneloba, rac arsebiTad Seusabamoa<br />

evrostandartTan. kerZod,<br />

saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobis Sesabamisad,<br />

2017 wlis pirveli ianvridan<br />

dizelSi gogirdis Semcvelobis<br />

zRvrul mniSvnelobad<br />

dadginda ara umetes 100 mg/kg-sa,<br />

2019 wlis pirveli ianvridan ki<br />

aRniSnuli maCvenebeli 50 mg/kg-s<br />

gautolda. maSin, rodesac evrokavSiris<br />

standartis Sesabamisad,<br />

dizelis sawvavSi gogirdis Semcvelobis<br />

zRvruli mniSvnelobaa<br />

10 mk/kg. amaze Cveni mTavroba acxadebs,<br />

rom dizelis sawvavSi gogirdis<br />

Semcveloba saqarTveloSi<br />

evrokavSiris standarts 2020 wlis<br />

pirveli ianvridan daakmayofilebs.<br />

arada, Tbilisis meriis cnobiT,<br />

dReis mdgomareobiT, municipalitets<br />

emsaxureba oTxi kerZo<br />

kompania 2000 mikroavtobusiT,<br />

romelic gamoSvebulia 2011-2012<br />

wlebSi. yvela maTgani dizelis<br />

sawvavs moixmars.<br />

aqve davZenT, rom samjer (2017<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi) saqarTveloSi<br />

gamovlinda iseTi saavtomobilo<br />

dizelis sawvavis miwodeba, romlis<br />

xarisxic ver akmayofilebda<br />

kanonmdeblobisa, iyo „atmosferuli<br />

haeris xarisxisa da evropaSi<br />

ufro sufTa haeris Sesaxeb”. gansakuTrebiT<br />

efeqtian RonisZiebad<br />

miiCnia sasamarTlom dizelis<br />

sawvavze momuSave manqanebis akrZalva,<br />

ramdenadac isini did rols<br />

TamaSoben azotis dioqsidis (NO2)<br />

zRvruli mniSvnelobis gadaWarbebis<br />

TvalsazrisiT. azotis dioqsidis<br />

maRali koncentraciis Semcirebis<br />

mizniT, 2018 wlis 31 maiss, dizelis<br />

Zraviani manqanebis gadaadgileba<br />

aikrZala qalaq hamburgis<br />

gansazRvrul teritoriaze, xolo<br />

oqtomberSi amgvari akrZalvis<br />

daweseba sasamarTlo gadawyvetilebis<br />

Sesabamisad, germaniis dedaqalaqs<br />

daekisra.<br />

swored aRniSnuli reformebi<br />

unda gatardes saqarTveloSic!<br />

haeris dabinZurebis erT-erT<br />

mniSvnelovan wyaros warmoadgens<br />

aseve samSeneblo saqmianoba. yvelaze<br />

farTod gavrcelebuli me-<br />

Todi samSeneblo mtvris gafrqvevis<br />

kontrolisTvis aris morwyva.<br />

saqarTveloSi samSeneblo sferos<br />

momwesrigebeli kanonmdebloba samSeneblo<br />

moedanze iseTi RonisZiebebis<br />

ganxorcielebas moiTxovs,<br />

`samjer (2017 wlis ganmavlobaSi) saqarTveloSi<br />

gamovlinda iseTi saavtomobilo dizelis<br />

sawvavis miwodeba, romlis xarisxic ver<br />

akmayofilebda dadgenil normebs. kerZod,<br />

gogirdis Semcveloba dizelis sawvavSi<br />

meryeobda 308-372 mg/kg farglebSi. es ukve<br />

sawamlavia!~<br />

sabamisi standartis ararsebobis<br />

gamo zusti monacemebi xelmisawvdomi<br />

ar aris. baTumsa da rusTav-<br />

Si mwvane safarsa da mosaxleobas<br />

Soris Tanafardoba warmoadgens<br />

erT sul mosaxleze, Sesabamisad, 5-<br />

6 m2-sa da 5.4 m2-s. Tumca, municipalitetebSi<br />

ar aris damtkicebuli<br />

koeficientis maCveneblis Sefasebis<br />

standarti.<br />

saqarTveloSi soflis meurneoba,<br />

romelsac mdidari tradiciebi<br />

aqvs, bolo periodSi haeris dabinZurebis<br />

erT-erT wyarod iqca.<br />

winaswari monacemebiT, 2017 wels<br />

qveyanaSi soflis meurneobis<br />

produqciis gamoSvebam 3.9 mlrd.<br />

lari Seadgina, xolo soflis meurneobis<br />

produqciis gadamuSavebis<br />

Sedegad, 5.2 mlrd. laris Rirebulebis<br />

agrosasursaTo produqcia<br />

Seiqmna. amave periodSi, soflis<br />

meurneobis wili mTlian Sida<br />

produqtSi 8.2% iyo. marTalia,<br />

bolo aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

dargis ganviTarebis tempi sagr-<br />

Znoblad CamorCeba ekonomikis sxva<br />

seqtorebis ganviTarebis tempebs,<br />

Tumca igi kvlav mniSvnelovan gamowvevad<br />

rCeba qveyanaSi atmosferuli<br />

haeris xarisxis gaumjobesebis<br />

TvalsazrisiT.<br />

atmosferuli haeris dabinZurebas<br />

iwvevs sasoflo-sameurneo<br />

saqmianobis iseTi mimarTulebebi,<br />

rogorebicaa: nakelis marTva (Segroveba,<br />

gadamuSaveba, Senaxva da<br />

gamoyeneba), cxoveluri nakeliT<br />

miwis ganayofiereba, araorganuli<br />

azotis sasuqis gamoyeneba, sasoflo-sameurneo<br />

narCenebis wva da<br />

sxv.<br />

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nacrisferi epidemia<br />

mravalindikatoruli klast-<br />

Tamar rostiaSvili<br />

eruli kvleva saqarTveloSi Caa-<br />

577 10 07 06<br />

tara statistikis erovnulma sam-<br />

saxurma gaeros bavSvTa fondisa<br />

da daavadebaTa kontrolisa da sazogadoebrivi janmrTelo-<br />

bis erovnuli centris teqnikuri da finansuri mxardaWeriT.<br />

kvlevis mxardaWeras aseve uzrunvelyofdnen SvedeTis saer-<br />

TaSoriso ganviTarebis TanamSromlobis saagento (SIDA),<br />

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis saerTaSoriso ganviTarebis<br />

saagento (USAID), safrangeTis ganviTarebis saagento (AFD),<br />

Sveicariis ganviTarebis TanamSromlobis saagento (SDC),<br />

gaeros mosaxleobis fondi (UNFPA), gaeros ganviTarebis pro-<br />

grama (UNDP), msoflio jandacvis organizacia (WHO), msof-<br />

lio banki da italiis erovnuli jandacvis instituti.<br />

saqarTveloSi bavSvebis 41%-<br />

is sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />

tolia an aRemateba 5 mkg/dl-s,<br />

maT Soris, bavSvebis 16%-is sisxlSi<br />

tyviis Semcveloba tolia an<br />

aRemateba 10 mkg/dl-s. bavSvebis<br />

25%-is sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />

aris 5-dan 10 mkg/dl-mde. ase-<br />

Tia Sedegebi qveynis masStabiT<br />

warmomadgenlobiTi kvlevisa,<br />

romelic dRes gamoqveynda.<br />

kvleva 2018 wlis seqtembridan<br />

dekembramde periodSi Catarda<br />

mravalindikatoruli klasteruli<br />

kvlevis farglebSi,<br />

romelic Sinameurneobebis yvelaze<br />

didi kvlevaa msoflioSi.<br />

tyviis donis gansasazRvrad venuri<br />

sisxlis sinjebi Segrovda 2-<br />

7 wlis 1578 bavSvisgan saqarTvelos<br />

masStabiT. bavSvebi kvleva-<br />

Si SemTxveviTi SerCevis principiT<br />

CarTes da sinjebi gaigzavna<br />

italiis janmrTelobis erovnul<br />

institutSi, romelic warmoadgens<br />

evropis wamyvan sazogadoebrivi<br />

janmrTelobis instituts.<br />

tyviis Semcvelobaze sisxlis nimuSis<br />

kvlevisas gamoyenebuli<br />

iyo induqciurad Sewyvilebuli<br />

plazmis mas-speqtrometri (ICP<br />

MS), rac warmoadgens tyviis kvlevis<br />

oqros standarts.<br />

saqarTveloSi gaeros bavSvTa<br />

fondis warmomadgenlis moadgile<br />

gotfrid hanes oficialuri<br />

gancxadebidan irkveva, rom gaeros<br />

bavSvTa fondi, cxra donor<br />

organizaciasTan erTad, daexmara<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobas, kerZod,<br />

statistikis erovnul samsaxursa<br />

da daavadebaTa kontrolisa da<br />

sazogadoebrivi janmrTelobis<br />

erovnul centrs, kvlevis CatarebaSi,<br />

romlic mizanic problemis<br />

masStabebis gansazRvra iyo.<br />

man aseve aRniSna, rom Semdegi nabiji<br />

tyviis zemoqmedebis wyaroebis<br />

kvleva unda iyos.<br />

tyviis minimaluri, janmrTelobisTvis<br />

usafrTxo koncentracia<br />

adamianis organizmSi ar<br />

aris dadgenili, Tumca msoflio<br />

jandacvis rekomendaciebis Sesabamisad,<br />

sazogadoebrivi jandacviTi<br />

RonisZiebebi unda daigegmos,<br />

rodesac venur sisxlSi tyviis<br />

Semcveloba tolia an aRemateba<br />

5 mkg/dl-s.<br />

rogorc „qronika+~-isTvis gaxda<br />

cnobili, saqarTvelos mTavroba<br />

ukve gegmavs SeimuSaos<br />

tyviis toqsikuri zemoqmedebis<br />

aRmofxvris yovlismomcveli<br />

saxelmwifo programa, romelic<br />

iTvaliswinebs tyviiT dabinZurebis<br />

wyaroebis kvlevas; aseve sabazro<br />

mimoqcevaSi tyviiT dabin-<br />

Zurebuli produqtebis moxvedris<br />

prevenciasa da sazogadoebis<br />

informirebisken mimarTul<br />

sainformacio kampaniebs.<br />

kvlevis monacemebi sakmaod<br />

sagangaSo aRmoCnda:<br />

sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />

aRemateba 5 mkg/dl-s: TbilisSi<br />

_ 30%, aWaraSi _ 85%, guriaSi _<br />

73%, imereTSi _ 61%, kaxeTSi _<br />

25%, mcxeTa-mTianeTSi _ 20%, samegrelo-zemo<br />

svaneTSi _ 71%, samcxe-javaxeTSi<br />

_ 32%, qvemo qarTlSi<br />

_ 18%, Sida qarTlSi _<br />

21%.<br />

bavSvebSi sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />

aRemateba 10 mkg/dl-<br />

s: TbilisSi _ 7%, aWaraSi _ 50%,<br />

guriaSi _ 44%, imereTSi _ 23%,<br />

kaxeTSi _ 4%, mcxeTa-mTianeTSi<br />

_ 6%, samegrelo-zemo svaneTSi<br />

_ 29%, samcxe-javaxeTSi _ 12%,<br />

qvemo qarTlSi _ 6%, Sida<br />

qarTlSi _ 4%.<br />

rac Seexeba garemos dacvis<br />

erovnuli saagentos monacemebiT<br />

dasavleT saqarTvelos didi<br />

qalaqebis niadagebSi tyviis Semcvelobas,<br />

Semdegi gamovlinda:<br />

1. qalaqi abaSa, sadac aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda<br />

1 SemTxvevaSi sadguris mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze;<br />

2. qalaqi baTumi, aRebulia 5<br />

nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />

SemTxvevaSi skola liceumTan,<br />

bagrationis q. #117-Si;<br />

3. qalaqi zestafoni, aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />

SemTxvevaSi, abesaZis quCis mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze, Tumca 2 SemTxvevaSi<br />

tyviis Semcveloba Zalze<br />

axlosaa zRvrul dasaSveb<br />

koncentraciasTan, kerZod. sviris<br />

gadasasvlelTan da feroSenadnobTa<br />

qarxnidan CrdiloeTiT<br />

600 m.-Si;<br />

4. qalaqi zugdidi, aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1 SemTxvevaSi,<br />

aRmaSeneblis quCa<br />

#145-Si, Tumca 2 SemTxvevaSi<br />

tyviis Semcveloba Zalze axlosaa<br />

zRvrul dasaSveb koncentraciasTan,<br />

kerZod rusTavelis<br />

q. #403-Si da gamsaxurdias q.<br />

#28-Si;<br />

konkretuli monacemebi<br />

qarTveli bavSvebis sisxlSi<br />

tyviis Semcvelobis Sesaxeb<br />

regionebis mixedviT<br />

`kvlevis monacemebi sakmaod sagangaSo<br />

aRmoCnda: sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba aRemateba<br />

5 mkg/dl-s: TbilisSi - 30%, aWaraSi - 85%,<br />

guriaSi - 73%, imereTSi - 61%, kaxeTSi - 25%,<br />

mcxeTa-mTianeTSi - 20%, samegrelo-zemo<br />

svaneTSi - 71%, samcxe-javaxeTSi - 32%, qvemo<br />

qarTlSi - 18%, Sida qarTlSi - 21%. bavSvebSi<br />

sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba aRemateba 10 mkg/<br />

dl-s: TbilisSi - 7%, aWaraSi - 50%, guriaSi -<br />

44%, imereTSi - 23%, kaxeTSi _ 4%, mcxeTa-<br />

mTianeTSi - 6%, samegrelo-zemo svaneTSi - 29%,<br />

samcxe-javaxeTSi - 12%, qvemo qarTlSi - 6%,<br />

Sida qarTlSi - 4%~<br />

5. qalaqi ozurgeTi, aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />

SemTxvevaSi, kerZod. kvleviT institutTan;<br />

6. qalaqi senaki, aRebulia 5<br />

nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda yvela<br />

SemTxvevaSi, kerZod qalaqis<br />

xidTan, rusTavelis q. #113-Si;<br />

kostavas q. #39-Si pirvel skolasTan;<br />

parkis mimdebare teritoria;<br />

sadguris mimdebare teritoria<br />

mSvidobis q, #196-Si;<br />

7. qalaqi foTi, aRebulia 5<br />

nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba ar dafiqsirebula,<br />

Tumca qalaqis centralur<br />

moedanze eklesiasTan aRebul<br />

sinjSi tyviis Semcveloba TiTqmis<br />

utoldeba zRvrul dasaSveb<br />

koncentracias;<br />

8. qalaqi qobuleTi, aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />

SemTxvevaSi, qalaqis Sesasvlel-<br />

Tan;<br />

9. qalaqi wyaltubo, aRebulia<br />

5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />

gadaWarbeba arc erT SemTxvevaSi<br />

ar dafiqsirebula;<br />

10. qalaqi bolnisi, sinjebi<br />

aRebulia sami wertilidan, aqedan<br />

orSi dafiqsirda tyviis gada-<br />

Warbeba. amave wlis kvlevis monacemebis<br />

mixedviT, bolnisis raionSi<br />

tyvia gvxvdeba zRvrul dasaSveb<br />

koncentraciaze maRali.<br />

samTomompovebeli kompania<br />

RMG-is mimdebare soflebSi (0-<br />

10 km radiusSi aris dacilebuli),<br />

qvemoT moyvanil diagrameb-<br />

Si kargad Cans niadagebSi tyviis<br />

Semcveloba bolnisisa da dmanisis<br />

raionebis 21 sofelSi. aq na-<br />

Tlad Cans tyviis koncentraciis<br />

mkveTri mateba am soflebis<br />

niadagebSi.<br />

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„Sen Semoqmeds radgan qalad<br />

daubarebixar, Seni wesi es unda<br />

iyos: xmagakmendili Cumad iyo,<br />

aravis Sexedo, arsad waxvide, yurebi<br />

daixSe da Tvalebi daxuWe da<br />

ijeq, swavla ra Seni saqmeao...” _ ase<br />

aRwers barbare erisTavi-jorjaZe<br />

im periods, roca qalis uflebebi<br />

SezRuduli iyo da igi TiTqmis ar<br />

arsebobda. es iyo 1845 weli da<br />

maSin gavrcelebuli da miRebulic<br />

ki iyo adreuli asakSi qorwineba.<br />

axla 2019 welia. mas Semdeg 174<br />

weli gavida, Tumca arasrulwlovan<br />

asakSi Seqmnili ojaxi arc ise<br />

ucxoa CvenTvis.<br />

arasrulwlovanTa qorwineba<br />

problemaa, romelic saqarTvelosa<br />

da samxreT kavkasiis regionSi<br />

kvlav udides gamowvevad rCeba.<br />

saqarTvelos saxalxo damcvelis,<br />

qveyanaSi adamianis uflebaTa<br />

mdgomareobis Sesaxeb yovelwliuri<br />

moxsenebis Tanaxmad, 2017 wlis<br />

monacemTan SedarebiT (835 arasrulwlovani<br />

mSobeli) adreuli<br />

qorwineba Semcirebulia, Tumca<br />

kvlav maRalia bavSvis dabadebisas<br />

18 wlamde miuRwevel mSobelTa<br />

raodenoba. angariSis mixedviT,<br />

2018 wels saqarTveloSi mSoblad<br />

715 arasrulwlovani deda da 23<br />

arasrulwlovani mama daregistrirda.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom kanonis<br />

gaTvaliswinebiT 18 wlamde<br />

pirTa qorwinebis registracia sisxlis<br />

samarTlebriv aqtad miiCneva<br />

da oficialurad ar xorcieldeba,<br />

problemas warmoadgens faqtobrivi<br />

Tanacxovrebisa da araoficialuri<br />

qorwinebebis SemTxvevebi.<br />

angariSis mixedviT, adreuli<br />

qorwinebis gamo, saSualod, 300<br />

bavSvi weliwadSi skolas ver am-<br />

Tavrebs. 2017-2018 wlebSi 564 aTasi<br />

moswavlidan 381-ma gogonam da<br />

40-ma biWma ver miiRo sruli saSualo<br />

ganaTleba.<br />

arsebuli monacemebiT, 20-24<br />

wlis asakis qalTa 14% aRniSnavs,<br />

rom ojaxi 18 wlis asakamde Seqmna.<br />

vaJebSi xuTjer ufro naklebia<br />

adreuli qorwinebis SemTxvevebi.<br />

2017-2018 wlis adreuli qorwinebis<br />

saqarTvelos maCvenebeli (20%)<br />

evropaSi yvelaze maRalia da gasuli<br />

wlebis liderebs, moldovasa<br />

(18%) da TurqeTs (14%), uswrebs.<br />

unda aRiniSnos, rom ar arsebobs<br />

zusti monacemebi adreuli qorwinebis<br />

Sesaxeb, radgan qorwineba-<br />

Ta umravlesoba ar aris registrirebuli.<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, Tuki<br />

gaviTvaliswinebT araregistrirebuli<br />

qorwinebebis raodenobasac,<br />

unda vivaraudoT, rom es ricxvi<br />

araTu Semcirda, aramed gacilebiT<br />

maRalia.<br />

Tanamedrove adamiani Tavisufali<br />

da damoukidebelia, Sesabamisad,<br />

rodesac is iseT mniSvnelovan<br />

gadawyvetilebas iRebs, rogoric<br />

daqorwinebaa, umTavresad, sakuTar<br />

azrsa da grZnobebs eyrdnoba.<br />

siyvaruliT qorwineba warsulSi<br />

erTgvari fufuneba iyo, magram<br />

dRes arasrulwlovnebSi _ ojaxis<br />

Seqmnis upirvelesi da zogjer er-<br />

adreuli qorwinebis<br />

kavkasia istoriulad cnobilia<br />

alvina aleqsaniani<br />

adreuli qorwinebis, qalis gata-<br />

cebisa da garigebiT qorwinebis<br />

tradiciebiT. pirveli qarTveli feministi qalis, poet<br />

rafiel erisTavis dis, barbare erisTavi-jorjaZis biogra-<br />

fiaSi vkiTxulobT, rom is 12 wlis asakSi gaaTxoves, maSin,<br />

rodesac jer kidev bavSvi iyo. is Tavis qorwils ixsenebda,<br />

rogorc raRac TamaSs.<br />

30<br />

TaderTi mizezia. Zalze xSirad<br />

mozardebi am nabijs Tavisuflebis<br />

mopovebis mizniT dgamen, maT<br />

erTi suli aqvT, rodis gaxdebian<br />

didebi. maT surT daamtkicon, rom<br />

SeuZliaT gadawyvetilebis damoukideblad<br />

miReba. zogjer ki,<br />

mravali mizezis gamo, mSobliuri<br />

saxlidan Tavis daRwevis mizniT,<br />

axalgazrdebi, samwuxarod, sxva<br />

alternativas ver xedaven. ra Tqma<br />

unda, arian Zlieri pirovnebebi,<br />

romlebic sirTuleebs laxaven da<br />

adreuli qorwineba maTTvis garkveuli<br />

gamocdilebaa, magram, Ziri-<br />

Tadad, es fsiqologiur travmas<br />

ayenebs, mas Tan axlavs ganaTlebis<br />

miRebis problema, gogonebSi janmrTelobis<br />

gauareseba. am adamianebis<br />

didi nawili momavalSi realizebas<br />

ver axerxebs.<br />

likas naRvliani istoria<br />

lika 16 wlis iyo, roca momavali<br />

qmari gaicno da masTan erTad<br />

gaipara .. 17 wlis asakSi bavSvi gaaCina.<br />

Tumca axalbeda dedis cxovrebaSi<br />

yvelaze bednieri da didi<br />

xnis nanatri dRe im faqtiT iyo<br />

daCrdiluli, rom bavSvis mama mis<br />

gverdiT ar iyo, _ is naxevari weliwadia,<br />

rac cixeSi zis.<br />

„skolaSi me-10 klasSi vswavlobdi<br />

da paralelurad maRazia-<br />

Si konsultantis poziciaze vmuSaobdi,<br />

rodesac momaval meuRles<br />

Sevxvdi. is imave maRaziis dacvis<br />

TanamSromeli iyo. Cemze 11 wliT<br />

ufrosi. erTi sityviT, movewone,<br />

wyvili gavxvdiT da ramdenime Tvis<br />

Semdeg gaparva SemomTavaza. mec<br />

davTanxmdi. ver vityvi, rom bolomde<br />

gaazrebuli mqonda, ras vake-<br />

Tebdi. es im periods daemTxva, rodesac<br />

dedaCemma Tanacxovreba iseT<br />

adamianTan gadawyvita, romelsac<br />

pirveli qorwinebidan sami patara<br />

Svili hyavda. deda sul bavSvebs<br />

uvlida, CemTvis arasdros<br />

ecala, mec vexmarebodi, magram es<br />

damRleli iyo da swavlaSi xels<br />

miSlida. vfiqrobdi, gavTxovdebodi<br />

da problemebi mogvardeboda.<br />

TiTqos, Tavs vuSvele gaTxovebiT.<br />

calke, naqiravebSi gadavediT, male<br />

davorsuldi”.<br />

jer kidev bavSvi, 16 wlis lika,<br />

orsulobis meoTxe Tveze iyo,<br />

rodesac adreuli qorwinebis mZime<br />

Sedegebis winaSe aRmoCnda: meu-<br />

Rle yaCaRobis faqtze daiWires,<br />

braldebulad cnes da 8 weliwadi<br />

miusajes. is sul marto darCa,<br />

mSobliur saxlSi dabrunda, depresiaSi<br />

Cavarda. rogorc Tavad ambobs,<br />

sanam colad gayva, icoda,<br />

rom misi rCeuli nasamarTlevi da<br />

cixidan axlad gamosuli iyo, magram<br />

Seuyvarda da amas maSin mniSvneloba<br />

ar mianiWa. miuxedavad yvelafrisa,<br />

qmari dResac uyvars, Tavisufal<br />

dros cixeSi dadis da<br />

bavSvic mihyavs. Tumca Znelia im<br />

faqtis gacnobiereba da imasTan<br />

Segueba, rom bavSvi mamas, cixis<br />

kedlebs gareT, pirvelad, 8 wlis<br />

asakSi naxavs.<br />

18 wlis iyo, Svili rom gaaCina<br />

`vfiqrobdi, gaTxovebiT problemebi<br />

mogvardeboda~ _ iluziebi adreuli<br />

qorwinebis Sesaxeb<br />

da sacxovreblad bebiasTan da<br />

babuasTan gadavida. orsulobis<br />

periodSi skolaSi ar uvlia, mxolod<br />

gamocdebze midioda. ambobs,<br />

rom bavSvis gamo swavlisa da<br />

atestatis miRebis motivacia hqonda<br />

da saxlSi programul wignebs<br />

kiTxulobda, Tumca mxolod aman<br />

bevri veraferi misca. umaRlesSi<br />

ar Caubarebia, amaze arc ki ufiqria,<br />

radgan arc amis saSualeba<br />

hqonda, arc dro da arc survili.<br />

dRes 21 wlis martoxela dedaa, 4<br />

wlis araCveulebrivi vaJi hyavs da,<br />

bedis ironiiT, isev maRaziaSi<br />

muSaobs gamyidvelad.<br />

anuki _ istoria bednieri<br />

dasasrulis gareSe<br />

15 wlis asakSi Seqmna ojaxi kidev<br />

erTma respondentma, romelic<br />

dRes 22 wlisaa da ukve ganqorwinebulia,<br />

7 wlis gogonas marto<br />

zrdis. wina gmirisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />

anukis sruli saSualo ganaTlebac<br />

ar miuRia. im faqtma, rom me-9<br />

klasSi Seyvarebulisgan daorsulda,<br />

didi roli iTamaSa mis Semdgom<br />

cxovrebaSi. misi qorwineba Tavidan<br />

sakmaod bednieri Canda, magram<br />

male sixaruli ubedurebam Secvala<br />

_ meuRle moZalade narkomani<br />

gamodga.<br />

„15 wlis viyavi, roca Cems yofil<br />

meuRlesTan erTad es nabiji<br />

gadavdgi. davorsuldi, amitomac<br />

colad momiyvana. iyo siyvarulic<br />

da im dros megona, rom es is<br />

grZnobaa, romelic ojaxis SeqmnisTvis<br />

sakmarisia. orsulobis periodSi<br />

skolaSi ar mivlia, me-9<br />

klasis Semdeg skola saerTodac<br />

mivatove. aRar mindoda swavlis<br />

gagrZeleba. saxlSi yofna, saojaxo<br />

saqmeebis keTeba merCivna. TiTqos<br />

bednieri viyavi, verTobodi Cems<br />

meuRlesTan erTad, erTi sityviT,<br />

did problemebs ar Sevjaxebivar.<br />

16 wlisas Svili SemeZina da aq gaCnda<br />

problemebic. me TviTonac patara<br />

viyavi da bavSvs rogor aRvzrdidi?<br />

araferi vicodi, amitom deda<br />

da mezoblad mcxovrebi qalebi<br />

mexmarebodnen. droTa ganmavloba-<br />

Si uamravi problema dagrovda.<br />

meuRle arasdros iyo Cem gverdiT,<br />

ubnis biWebTan erTad erToboda,<br />

svamda, arsad muSaobda. aRmoCnda,<br />

rom narkotikul saSualebebsac<br />

moixmarda; Semdeg fizikur da sityvier<br />

Seuracxyofas mayenebda.<br />

erT dRes, morigi konfliqtis<br />

dros, mivxvdi, rom misgan unda wavsuliyavi”.<br />

anuki ambobs, rom 4-wliani Tanacxovrebis<br />

Semdeg qmars daSorda:<br />

„zrdasrul asakSi SesaZlebelia,<br />

ori adamiani sxvadasxva azrze<br />

iyos da es ar gaxdes konfliqtis<br />

mizezi, Tineijerobisas ki<br />

rTulia. am dros ginda garToba,<br />

megobrebTan erTad didi xniT wasvla,<br />

dakargva, magram roca ojaxi<br />

gyavs, ase ver adgebi da ver waxval.<br />

ojaxi gulisxmobs imas, rom,<br />

erTdroulad, Zalebis erTnairi<br />

gadanawilebiT, unda gauZRve cxovrebas.<br />

Tu erTi mxare mainc<br />

moikoWlebs, mTeli tvirTi meoreze<br />

gadadis”.<br />

dRes mas aqvs saqme, samsaxuri,<br />

Tumca sakuTar Tavs Semdgar adamianad<br />

ar miiCnevs. ambobs, swavla<br />

rom gaegrZelebina, axla kargi samsaxuri<br />

da profesia eqneboda. misive<br />

TqmiT, adreul asakSi ojaxis<br />

Seqmna swori ar aris da gogoebma<br />

aucileblad unda miiRon ganaTleba.<br />

„ver vityvi, rom Semdgari<br />

var da profesia maqvs, romelic<br />

Zalian miyvars. ar aris ase. maqvs<br />

Cemi saqme, Tumca SeiZleboda, amaze<br />

ukeTesi yofiliyo”. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, anuki ambobs, rom misi<br />

Svili amis kompensirebas axdens.<br />

naTia _ istoria bednieri<br />

dasasruliT<br />

tradiciul qarTul sazogadoebaSi<br />

mniSvnelovania, rom gogos<br />

pirveli intimuri gamocdileba<br />

dakanonebuli iyos. es adreuli<br />

qorwinebis kidev erTi faqtoria.<br />

axalgazrda wyvilebs, ubralod,<br />

ar gaaCniaT intimuri urTierTobebis<br />

legalizaciis sxva saSualeba.<br />

ase moxda naTias SemTxvevaSi,<br />

mas axlo urTierToba surda Tavis<br />

pirvel SeyvarebulTan, amitomac<br />

16 wlis asakSi daqorwinda.<br />

„me-9 klasSi vswavlobdi, rodesac<br />

Cemi momavali qmari gavicani.<br />

me TbilisSi vcxovrobdi, is ki<br />

zugdididan iyo. es CvenTvis xelis<br />

SemSleli ar yofila, urTierToba<br />

daviwyeT, erTmaneTi Segviyvarda.<br />

mis gareSe cxovreba ar SemeZlo,<br />

amitomac gadavwyviteT gaparva<br />

da Cveni urTierTobis dakanoneba.<br />

vicodi, rom Cemi mSoblebi wianaaRmdegebi<br />

iqnebodnen. erTxel<br />

skolaSi gakveTilebi gagvicda da<br />

im dRes spontanurad gadavwyvite,<br />

am nabijze wavsuliyavi. Cems or axlobel<br />

megobars yvelaferi avuxseni<br />

da mSoblebisTvis werilis gadacema<br />

vTxove. dResdReobiT vxvdebi,<br />

rom mSoblebTan ase ar unda<br />

movqceuliyavi, magram maSin patara<br />

viyavi da Sedegebze ar vfiqrobdi”.<br />

orsulobis periodSi naTia<br />

qmarTan da dedamTilTan erTad<br />

cxovrobda. skolaSi ar uvlia,<br />

radgan Zneli iyo balansis dacva<br />

ganaTlebasa da orsulobas Soris.<br />

ase gagrZelda, daaxloebiT, erTi<br />

weli. rodesac skolaSi dabruneba<br />

da swavlis gagrZeleba gadawyvita,<br />

naTias dedamTili winaaRmdegi iyo.<br />

misi azriT, gaTxovil gogos swavla<br />

qorwinebis Semdeg dakisrebuli<br />

valdebulebebis Sesrulebasa<br />

da bavSvis movlaSi xels uSlis. sabednierod,<br />

naTia ar daTanxmda<br />

aseT Zvelmodur midgomas, mSoblebTan<br />

dabrunda da swavla gaagr-<br />

Zela. skolis damTavreba da umaRles<br />

saswavlebelSi Cabareba gauWirda,<br />

magram mzrunveli mSoblebis<br />

ZalisxmeviT dRes naTia saqarTvelos<br />

erT-erT wamyvan bankSi muSaobs<br />

da warmatebuli, saintereso<br />

axalgazrda qalia. igi TbilisSi<br />

qmarTan erTad cxovrobs da rva<br />

wlis vaJs zrdis.<br />

am axalgazrda qalis istoria<br />

adreul asakSi qorwinebis Semdeg<br />

kargad Camoyalibebuli cxovrebis<br />

iSviaTi magaliTia. bednieri dasasruli,<br />

romelic ar moxdeboda, rom<br />

ara Cveni respondentis mier sworad<br />

gadadgmuli nabijebi, ganaTlebis<br />

aucileblobis gaazreba<br />

da axlos mdgomi mzrunveli mSoblebi.<br />

magram bevri gogona, romelmac,<br />

naTias msgavsad, mSobliuri<br />

saxli adre datova da daqorwinda,<br />

dRes arc ise bednieria. zogs<br />

ukve ramdenime bavSvi hyavs, maT<br />

skola ar daumTavrebiaT, ar miu-<br />

RiaT profesiuli ganaTleba; sxvebi<br />

yoveldRiurad ganicdian ojaxur<br />

Zaladobas; zogierTi didi<br />

xania, dabrunda mSoblebTan da bavSvebs<br />

marto zrdis, radgan qmrebTan<br />

araferi gamouvidaT. arasrulwlovan<br />

asakSi daqorwinebuli<br />

bednieri qalebis raodenoba saqarTveloSi<br />

Zalian cotaa.<br />

saqarTveloSi adreuli qorwinebis<br />

praqtika ukve wlebia, rac arsebobs,<br />

Tumca, rogorc sxva bevri<br />

socialuri sakiTxi Cvens qveyana-<br />

30 N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.


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Si, es Temac legendebiTa da tabuebiT<br />

aris moculi. gavrcelebulia<br />

mosazreba, rom es problema<br />

warsulSi darCa da Tu axlacaa<br />

SemorCenili, mxolod da mxolod,<br />

regionebSi, sadac progresis sina-<br />

Tles jer ar CauRwevia.<br />

gaeros kvleva, sxva kvlevebT-<br />

an erTad, gansxvavebul suraTs<br />

gviCvenebs: adreuli qorwinebis<br />

sakiTxi dResac aqtualuria soflebsa<br />

da qalaqebSi, xolo misi<br />

mizezebi ara maincdamainc eTnoreligiur,<br />

aramed genderul da tradiciul<br />

warmodgenebs emyareba.<br />

gaeros mosaxleobis fondis<br />

(UNFPA) ) saqarTvelos ofisis xe-<br />

lmZRvanelis, lela baqraZis<br />

TqmiT: „adreuli qorwineba gogonebisTvis<br />

mZime Sedegebis momtania,<br />

xSir SemTxvevaSi, maT socialur da<br />

uflebriv gariyvas iwvevs, xels<br />

uSlis gogonebs ganaTlebis dasrulebaSi<br />

da maTi potencialis<br />

srul gamovlenaSi. mozardobis<br />

asakSi orsuloba da mSobiaroba ki<br />

dedisa da nayofis janmrTelobas<br />

riskis qveS ayenebs. adreuli qorwinebis<br />

gamomwvevi mizezebi kompleqsuria<br />

da, Sesabamisad, viTarebis<br />

gasaumjobeseblad mravalmxrivi<br />

muSaobaa saWiro, rogorc<br />

politikisa da kanonmdeblobis<br />

doneze, aseve TemebTan da TviTon<br />

mozardebTan maTi damokidebulebis<br />

Sesacvlelad”.<br />

bavSvobis asakSi qorwinebis sakiTxma<br />

xelisuflebis yuradRebis<br />

miqceva mxolod bolo ramdenime<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi, saxalxo damcvelis,<br />

gaeros saagentoebisa da samoqalaqo<br />

sazogadoebis organizaciebis<br />

mier ganxorcielebul mtkicebulebebze<br />

dafuZnebuli advokatirebis<br />

Sedegad SeZlo. genderuli<br />

Tanasworobis, qalTa mimarT<br />

Zaladobisa da ojaxSi Zaladobis<br />

sakiTxebze momuSave uwyebaTaSorisi<br />

komisiisa da gaeros mosaxleobis<br />

fondis (UNFPA) saqarTvelos<br />

ofisis TaosnobiT, bolo 3 welia<br />

moRvaweobs adreuli/bavSvobis<br />

asakSi qorwinebis sakiTxze momu-<br />

Save specialuri jgufi, romlis<br />

misiaa qveyanaSi arsebuli saziano<br />

praqtikebis Tavidan acilebisa da<br />

aRmofxvris mizniT RonisZiebebis<br />

strategiuli dagegmva da sxvadasxva<br />

dainteresebuli mxaris koordinebuli<br />

muSaobis xelSewyoba.<br />

jgufis SemadgenlobaSi Sedian Sesabamisi<br />

samTavrobo struqturebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi, gaeros genderis<br />

Tematuri jgufis wevrebi<br />

(saerTaSoriso da donori organizaciebi),<br />

saxalxo damcvelis aparatisa<br />

da adreul/bavSvobis asak-<br />

Si qorwinebis Temaze momuSave arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi.<br />

uaxloesi wlebis manZilze genderuli<br />

Tanasworobis kuTxiT<br />

gadadgmuli pozitiuri nabijebis<br />

miuxedavad, dRes mTeli qveynis<br />

masStabiT kvlav xSiria naadrevi<br />

qorwinebis SemTxvevebi. misi damkvidrebisa<br />

da gavrcelebis umTavresi<br />

faqtoria codna-ganaTlebis<br />

aucileblobisa da gogonebis<br />

momavali socialuri rolis mniSvnelobis<br />

gaazrebis nakleboba, romelic<br />

ar unda Semoifarglebodes<br />

diasaxlisobiT da bavSvis aRzrdiT.<br />

qorwinebis periodSi gogonebi<br />

genderuli Zaladobisa da diskriminaciis<br />

sxvadasxva formas ganicdian.<br />

garda amisa, isini xSirad<br />

ver umklavdebian siZneleebs orsulobisa<br />

da mSobiarobis dros.<br />

koSmari gogonebSi<br />

socialuri izolacia, tradiciebi,<br />

siRaribe da sxva faqtorebi xels<br />

uwyobs genderuli diskriminaciisa<br />

da qalebis marginalizaciis<br />

mankieri wris damkvidrebas.<br />

gogonebis adreuli qorwinebisgan<br />

dacvis ufleba uzrunvelyofilia<br />

sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso<br />

SeTanxmebiT, maT Soris, adamianis<br />

uflebaTa konvenciisa da qalTa<br />

mimarT diskriminaciis yvela formis<br />

aRmofxvris Sesaxeb konvenciis<br />

CaTvliT. orive zemoT moyvanili<br />

dokumenti mouwodebs qveynebs,<br />

erovnul kanonmdeblobaSi qorwinebis<br />

minimalur asakad daafiqsiros<br />

18 weli. miuxedavad am samarTlebrivi<br />

garantiisa, aTasamde<br />

gogona qorwindeba 18 wlamde. aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, es problema ver<br />

mogvardeba mxolod kanonmdeblobis<br />

daxmarebiT. ufro aqtiuri<br />

muSaobaa saWiro xalxis damokidebulebis<br />

Sesacvlelad adreuli<br />

qorwinebisa da serTod, qalebisa<br />

da gogonebis sazogadoebaSi poziciis<br />

mimarT. adgilobriv doneze<br />

da msoflios masStabiT aseTi samuSaos<br />

gareSe, likas, anukisa da na-<br />

Tias msgavsi, aTasobiT gogona yovelwliurad<br />

adreuli qorwinebis<br />

gamo naTel momavals dakargavs.<br />

rogorc axali Taobis warmomadgeneli,<br />

imedi maqvs, rom axlo momavalSi<br />

saqarTveloSi aRar iqneba<br />

iseTi sazogadoebis adgili, romlisTvisac<br />

adreuli qorwineba<br />

problema sulac ar aris, sadac 20<br />

wlis gogonas naTesavebi da mezoblebi<br />

aRar Seawuxeben SekiTxvebiT:<br />

„aRar Txovdebi?” „rodemde<br />

unda iyo marto?” droa, Cvenma sazogadoebam<br />

gaacnobieros, rom adamiani,<br />

romelic ufro mowiful<br />

asakSi qorwindeba, didi albaTobiT,<br />

gaagrZelebs swavlas skolaSi,<br />

miiRebs umaRless ganaTlebas, karieras<br />

aawyobs da amiT saukeTeso<br />

investirebas gaukeTebs Tavisi ojaxis<br />

naTel momavals. gogonas, romelic<br />

Tavis droze qorwindeba,<br />

meti saSualeba eZleva, dagegmos<br />

sasurveli orsuloba.<br />

aSkaraa sargebeli gogonasTvis,<br />

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momaval qmar-Svilsac yovelmxriv<br />

exmareba da araviszea damokidebuli;<br />

quTaisis socialuri sacxovrebeli<br />

_ TavSesafris nacvlad sicocxlisTvis saSiSi sivrce<br />

Sorena laRaZe<br />

quTaisSi agebuli socialuri sacxovrisis Seno-<br />

bis 1 kv. m. farTis sabazro Rirebuleba 540 laria,<br />

557 56 23 66<br />

maSin rodesac quTaisis meriam masSi 1000 lari gada-<br />

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_ amis Sesaxeb saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuris wlevandel angariSSia saubari.<br />

N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />

„sxvaoba meriis mier dokumenturad Cabarebul<br />

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samuSaos Soris Seadgens 83 kv. m., xolo<br />

sxvaoba Cabarebuli Senobis Rirebulebasa<br />

da eqspertizis daskvniT dadgenil Rirebulebas<br />

Soris Seadgens 2 mln. lars”, _<br />

naTqvamia auditis daskvnaSi.<br />

SenobaSi dReisTvis socialurad daucveli<br />

86 ojaxi cxovrobs.<br />

miranda nemsiwveriZe erT-erTi maTgania.<br />

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Sirgabmulobis Senoba SesTavaza.<br />

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kompaniisTvis gadasaricxi Tanxidan<br />

merias 582 00 lari swored msgavsi xarvezebis<br />

aRmosafxvrelad hqonda dakavebuli.<br />

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Sesaxeb da axali ambebi maT internetis<br />

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daavala, dokumenti ki Sesaswavlad sagamo-<br />

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auditis samsaxuris angariSSic mox-<br />

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Seswavlis Sedegad gamoavlina, rom Seu-<br />

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proeqtTan misi Sesabamisoba.<br />

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magram arCevnebze rom mivdivar<br />

xolme, Salva naTelaSvils va-<br />

Zlev xmas.<br />

_ es Tqveni uflebaa _ Cven<br />

demokratiul qveyanaSi vcx-<br />

ovrobT.<br />

_ sad aris demokratia? demokratia<br />

SeiZleba, qalaqSia, Torem<br />

CvenTan, sofelSi, yvelaferi sxvanairad<br />

aris.<br />

_ ras hqvia, sxvanairad aris?<br />

_ ai, mTavrobis maqebari unda<br />

iyo da puric geqneba da wyalic!<br />

eg ki arada, ubanSi agentebic<br />

hyavT, erTi mezobelia, sul modis<br />

da mekiTxeba, visi momxre xaro.<br />

vatyueb, „ocnebis”-meTqi. damlageblis<br />

adgilic am mezobelma miSova<br />

da axla rom gaigon, „ocnebas”<br />

ar vuWer mxars, SeiZleba, samsaxuridan<br />

gamomagdon!<br />

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Sokismomgvreli qronikebi<br />

zogadad, politikuri terori<br />

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ar vici, rodis unda mogvaqcion<br />

yuradReba. xelisufleba ise<br />

gviyurebs, rogorc sazarbazne<br />

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`ai, mTavrobis maqebari unda iyo da puric geqneba da wyalic! eg ki arada,<br />

ubanSi agentebic hyavT, erTi mezobelia, sul modis da mekiTxeba, visi<br />

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partiebi da samoqalaqo<br />

seqtori. Cven erToblivad vqmniT<br />

saxelmwifos. TiToeulma<br />

Cvenganma unda SevitanoT Cveni<br />

wvlili saxelmwifos ganviTarebaSi.<br />

aucileblad aRsaniSnia axalgazrdebis<br />

problemebTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT TviTrwmenis arqona,<br />

rac fobiebiT aris gamoxatuli,<br />

magaliTad: „Cems azrs aravin<br />

iTvaliswinebs”, „me aravin arafers<br />

mekiTxeba, aravin mismens”...<br />

axalgazrdebs minda movuwodo,<br />

rom es ase namdvilad ar aris.<br />

Zalian niWieri Taoba mxvdeba,<br />

imaze metad saqmeze orientirebuli,<br />

vidre dRes arian sakanonmdeblo<br />

organoSi. am axalgazrdebs<br />

Zalian saintereso xedvebi<br />

da ideebi aqvT, am yvelafers<br />

ki generireba da swori mimarTulebis<br />

micema sWirdeba,<br />

rom axalgazradas ar hqondeT<br />

gancda, TiTqos saxelmwifoebriv<br />

ganviTarebas absoluturad<br />

mowyvetili arian.<br />

_ swored imitom, rom axal-<br />

gazrdebi mowyvetilebi arian<br />

saxelmwifoebrivi ganviTarebis<br />

process, maT uperspeqtivobis<br />

gamo uCndebaT qveynis datove-<br />

bis survili. ramdenad sagan-<br />

gaSo viTarebaa am kuTxiT?<br />

_ Tu gaviTvaliswinebT 2012<br />

wlidan 2018 wlamde monacemebs,<br />

daaxloebiT milion 800 aTasma<br />

datova qveyana. qveynis datovebis<br />

msurvelTa raodenoba izrdeba,<br />

axalgazrdebi Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

sakuTar Tavs ver pouloben,<br />

Tavis damkvidreba uWirT.<br />

saxelmwifom unda Seqmnas is<br />

`rodesac adamianTa jgufi an ori adamiani<br />

erTmaneTTan raRac sakiTxebze Tanxmdeba,<br />

yovelTvis aris garkveuli Tanxvedris<br />

wertilebi, magram rodesac dasaxuli<br />

miznisken mimavali gzidan gadauxveven da<br />

partia droSi ascdeba politikur procesebs,<br />

CemTvis, rogorc aqtiuri moqalaqisTvis,<br />

msgavsi politikuri dRis wesrigi miuRebelia~<br />

dRis wesrigi da saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

xedva, romelic axalgazrdebs<br />

daainteresebs da Tavis<br />

damkvidrebis safuZvels miscems.<br />

vaxsene, rom xSirad miwevs<br />

regionebSi siaruli. raionebi<br />

da soflebi absoluturad daclilia<br />

axalgazrdebisgan. magaliTad,<br />

viyavi TianeTSi, sadac,<br />

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom mamalic ki<br />

ar yivis, iseTi soflebia, axalgazrdebs<br />

saerTod ver SexvdebiT,<br />

erTi-ori Tu moiZebneba.<br />

nacvlad imisa, rom axalgazrdebs<br />

regionebSi, soflebSi<br />

darCenis survili gavuCinoT,<br />

Cveni xelisufleba mizanmimarTulad<br />

qmnis iseT realobas,<br />

rom rac SeiZleba metma adamianma<br />

datovos qveyana, iseT regulaciebs<br />

axorcielebs, romelic<br />

TviTdamkvidrebis yvelanair<br />

wyaros spobs, adamians<br />

iZulebuls xdis, sakuTar Tavsa<br />

da qmedebebze uari Tqvas. aseve<br />

aucileblad unda aRvniSno<br />

erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi<br />

problema, _ ganaTlebis sistemis<br />

ararseboba. am pirobebSi ara<br />

mgonia, satrabaxo gvqondes. namdvilad<br />

ver vityviT, rom ganaTlebis<br />

kuTxiT reformatorebi<br />

varT da im moTxovnebs vpasuxobT,<br />

rac dagviwesa evrokavSirma,<br />

evrosabWom da a. S. umTavresi<br />

problema codnis kapitalis<br />

danergva, teqnologiebisa da<br />

ekonomikis ganviTarebaa. am sami<br />

ZiriTadi fundamenturi sakiTxis<br />

gareSe axalgazrdisa da miT<br />

umetes, saxelmwifosa da adamianuri<br />

resursis ganviTareba<br />

yovlad SeuZlebelia. ramdenic<br />

ar unda visaubroT problemebze,<br />

saboloo jamSi, mivdivarT<br />

ganaTlebis problemasTan. ganaTlebuli<br />

Taoba da sazogadoeba<br />

qmnis ganaTlebul da Zlier<br />

saxelmwifos. damoukideblobis<br />

dRidan moyolebuli dRemde<br />

ukve meramdene xelisufleba<br />

SevicvaleT, magram arc erT xelisuflebas<br />

dRis wesrigSi ar<br />

hqonia nomer pirvel problemad<br />

dayenebuli saxelmwifo sazRvrebis<br />

demarkacia. warmogidgeniaT,<br />

rom romelime saxelmwifos<br />

ar hqondes Tavisi sademarkaco<br />

xazi dadgenili?! magaliTad,<br />

me ar vici, sad aris saqarTvelo-azerbaijanis,<br />

saqarTvelo-somxeTis<br />

sazRvari, erTaderTi<br />

vici saqarTvelo-Turqe-<br />

Tis sazRvari, romelic sarfzea.<br />

ruseTis federaciasTan sazRvrebze<br />

saubari xom saerTod<br />

zedmetia! rodesac saxelmwifoebriv<br />

problemaze vsaubrobT,<br />

diax, es aris nomer pirveli<br />

problema, am problemis mogvarebis<br />

gareSe ar SeiZleba Tqva,<br />

rom Sen xar saxelmwifo, yovelgvari<br />

dramatizebisa da gada-<br />

Warbebis gareSe vambob. evrokav-<br />

Siris qveynebi moqmedeben erTi<br />

sazRvris principiT, magram maT<br />

mainc aqvT sazRvrebi dadgenili.<br />

aSS mkacrad gansazRvravs<br />

meqsikasTan sazRvars; israelic,<br />

TurqeTic. CvenTan ki ar arsebobs<br />

imis politikuri neba, rom<br />

sademarkacio politika Semu-<br />

Savdes. problemebis mogvareba,<br />

pirvel rigSi, saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />

sistemis mowesrigebiT<br />

unda daiwyos da aseve unda<br />

gatardes saxelmwifosTvis misaRebi<br />

ganaTlebis politika.<br />

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saberZneTSi, qalaq aTenSi, momR-<br />

giorgi sakaruli<br />

eral mamuka Carkvianis solo konc-<br />

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erti gaimarTa. musikosi aTenSi av-<br />

Tandil miqaberiZis miwveviT Cavida.<br />

saRamos cremlis gareSe ar Cauvlia, radgan, rogorc momReral-<br />

ma „qronika+~-Tan saubrisas aRniSna, emigrantebTan Sexvedra sak-<br />

maod emociuri aRmoCnda misTvis da sxva monawileebisTvisac.<br />

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mamuka Carkvianis solo koncerti aTenSi<br />

popularuli kompozitorisa<br />

da avtorSemsruleblis viziti<br />

ganxorcilda aTenis wm. ninos saxelobis<br />

qarTuli musikis studiis<br />

(xelmZRvaneli mamuka inaZe) saswavlo-SemecnebiTi<br />

programebis farglebSi,<br />

romelic moicavda: Sexvedrebs<br />

SemoqmedebiT axalgazrdobasTan<br />

da farTo sazogadoebas-<br />

Tan; aseve sami dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />

studiis aRsazrdelebTan Catarda<br />

erToblivi mecadineobebi da masterklasebi.<br />

saRamo gaimarTa kinoTeatr<br />

„trianonSi”, sadac mamuka<br />

CarkvianTan erTad monawileoba<br />

miiRo axalgazrda niWierma momReralma,<br />

proeqt „niWieris” finalistma<br />

_ lenka zviadaZem.<br />

saqarTveloSi dabrunebuli mamuka<br />

Carkviani da lenka zviadaZe<br />

„qronika+~-s Sexvdnen da iq gancdili<br />

STabeWdilebebi gagviziares.<br />

mamuka Carkviani _ avtor-Sem-<br />

srulebeli:<br />

_ saberZneTSi avTandil miqaberiZis<br />

miwveviT CavediT. es adamiani<br />

ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis<br />

kulturis saxlis damfuZnebeli<br />

gaxlavT, _ adamiani, romelic mTeli<br />

cxovreba Zalian karg, keTil<br />

da qarTul saqmes emsaxureba. bednieri<br />

var, rom am araCveulebriv<br />

qalaqs vestumreT, saidanac udidesi<br />

siTbo, siyvaruli da zRva emocia<br />

wamoviReT. bednieri var, rom<br />

Cems sayvarel emigrantebs Sevxvdi<br />

da erTi dRe gavulamazeT, romelic<br />

darwmunebuli var, didxans gahyvebaT.<br />

emigrantebTan Sexvedram<br />

yovelgvar molodins gadaaWarba.<br />

iseTi garemocva Segviqmnes, verc<br />

ki vigrZeniT, rom sxva qveyanaSi viyaviT,<br />

Tavi saqarTveloSi megona.<br />

_ emigrantebsa da ara marto<br />

maT, Zalian uyvarxarT. darwmu-<br />

nebuli var, koncertma anSlagiT<br />

Caiara.<br />

_ ra Tqma unda. koncerti 350-<br />

kacian araCveulebrivi kinoTeatris<br />

darbazSi gaimarTa. saRamom<br />

sruli anSlagiT Caiara. iyo bevri<br />

emocia, cremli, siTbo, udidesi<br />

siyvaruli... baton avTandil miqaberiZes<br />

aqvs kulturisa da ganaTlebis<br />

centri „kavkasia”, sadac<br />

qarTvelebi midian da ikribebian,<br />

rogorc sakuTar saxlSi. es maTi<br />

ojaxia.<br />

_ rogorc vici, masterklase-<br />

bic gqondaT. am centrSi axalga-<br />

zrda Taoba xelovnebas eziareba?<br />

_ diax. midian, sxdebian, isveneben,<br />

saubroben, sxvadasxva saxis<br />

saRamos marTaven. bavSvebs aswavlian,<br />

masterklasebi utardebaT,<br />

Sexvedrebi da bevri kargi<br />

saqme keTdeba. centris musikaluri<br />

xelmZRvaneli mamuka inaZea,<br />

romelic bavSvebs saocari qarTuli<br />

suliskveTebiT zrdis da es<br />

yvelaze didi bednierebaa.<br />

_ emociebi, romelic iq dagxv-<br />

daT...<br />

_ saocari. sityvebiT SeuZlebelia<br />

gadmovce is, rac zogadad aTenSi<br />

damxvda. saerTod yvela koncertze<br />

mayurebels, msmenels vesaubrebi,<br />

TiToeuli simReris istorias<br />

vuyvebi, rac SeiZleba axlo<br />

kontaqtSi var msmenelTan. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, erT-erTi qalbatoni<br />

yviroda, _ Jangbadi mieciT, Torem<br />

adamiani daixrCoo. bednierebis<br />

zeimi iyo.<br />

_ marto Tqven iyaviT, Tu sxva<br />

Semsruleblebic iyvnen?<br />

_ CemTan erTad Tbilisidan „ni-<br />

Wieris” finalisti, araCveulebrivi<br />

gogona da momRerali, lenka<br />

zviadaZe iyo, romelmac sakmaod<br />

bevri simRera Seasrula. mTliani<br />

saRamo, ra Tqma unda, cocxali<br />

SesrulebiT Catarda. aseve prodiuseri<br />

caia yifiani gaxldaT, ni-<br />

Wieri axalgazrda saba ivaniSvili,<br />

saRamoze adgilobrivma gundma<br />

simRera Seasrula.<br />

_ Tqveni simRerebidan yovel-<br />

Tvis Zalian didi emocia modis,<br />

rac mayurebelzec gadamdebia.<br />

miT umetes, Tqven xarT musikosi,<br />

romelic arasdros atyuebs msme-<br />

nels da cocxlad mReris...<br />

_ yvela simReras emociiT vm-<br />

Reri. mirCevnia, xma ar mqondes da<br />

mainc cocxlad vimRero. merab sefaSvilma<br />

Cemze genialuri ram<br />

Tqva, _ mamuka sul cocxlad imitom<br />

mReris, rom fonogramas pirs<br />

ver ayolebso. merabs aseTi komplimentisTvis<br />

didi madloba gadavuxade.<br />

zogierTi radios rom<br />

CarTavs da mReris, uxerxulia…<br />

simRera speqtaklia, Sen ki msaxiobi<br />

xar, gamodixar da oTx wuTSi<br />

yvelaferi – prologi, epilogi _<br />

unda moaswro, Tumca mizansceniT<br />

unda daiwyo, mere kulminacia da<br />

dasasruli. es rTulia da vinc ver<br />

akeTebs, vurCev, ar imReros…<br />

_ batono mamuka, msmeneli Tqv-<br />

engan sul siaxleebs elodeba. miT<br />

umetes dRes, roca ase aqtiurad<br />

CaebiT SemoqmedebiT saqmianobaSi<br />

da gaqvT uamravi koncerti. amJa-<br />

mad ras unda elodos qarTuli<br />

sazogadoeba? ra siaxleebia<br />

Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi?<br />

_ musikis gareSe cxovreba erTi<br />

wuTiTac ar SemiZlia. sul vukrav,<br />

sul ZiebaSi var, siaxleebSi. vmu-<br />

Saob axal simReraze, faqtobrivad,<br />

dasrulebulia da male Sedgeba<br />

am simReris premierac. simReras<br />

„simaRle” hqvia. garda amisa, 29<br />

maiss „rusTavelis TeatrSi” koncerti<br />

maqvs da zafxulSi sruliad<br />

saqarTvelos movivli koncertebiT.<br />

_ es iqneba sazafxulo turne<br />

Tu?..<br />

_ diax.<br />

_ romel regionebs estumre-<br />

biT?<br />

_ kaxeTs: yvarels, sagarejos;<br />

quTaiss, baTums, saCxeres, raWaleCxums;<br />

SemoTavazeba maqvs<br />

amerikidan, sadac Cemi koncerti<br />

igegmeba da es, savaraudod,<br />

seqtembris<br />

bolos moxdeba. ukve<br />

mimdinareobs mzadeba<br />

da vnaxoT... yovelTvis<br />

bednieri var, roca Cems xalxs<br />

vumReri da lamaz saRamoebs vCuqni.<br />

_ sakmaod bevri koncerti gelodebaT<br />

win. batono mamuka, kon-<br />

certebis mxriv situacia gaumj-<br />

obesda Tu? Cven bevri momRer-<br />

lisgan gvsmenia, rom ar tardeba<br />

koncertebi da msgavsi ram, magram<br />

Tqven sul dakavebuli xarT.<br />

_ aravis velodebi, arc kulturis<br />

saministros da arc _ sxvas.<br />

mikavSirdebian adamianebi, romlebsac<br />

surT, rom koncertebi Ca-<br />

`emigrantebTan<br />

Sexvedram yovelgvar<br />

molodins gadaaWarba~<br />

vataro da mec didi siamovnebiT<br />

mivdivar da vmarTav SemoqmedebiT<br />

saRamoebs. am zafxuls, rogorc<br />

zemoT mogaxseneT, saqarTvelos<br />

TiTqmis yvela regionSi Cemi koncertia<br />

dagegmili.<br />

_ Tqven erT-erT interviuSi<br />

ambobT, rom dRes aRar iwereba<br />

melodiuri simRerebio. rogor<br />

fiqrobT, ratom?<br />

_ melodia daikarga da imitom.<br />

aRar gamodis sidi-diskebi. yvela<br />

internetzea gadasuli, risi an visi<br />

mosmenac surT internetSi, usmenen.<br />

qarTuli simRera ver itans<br />

Zlier melizmebs. 200-ze meti sim-<br />

Reraa, romelic mamaCemis leqszea<br />

dawerili. TiToeuli leqsi imRereba<br />

da melodiuria. dedaCemis<br />

leqsebze sami Tu oTxi simRera<br />

maqvs, Tumca erTi iseTia, yvelas<br />

udris: „suyvelaze lamazi Seni<br />

Tvalis feria”… me Tu mkiTxav, es<br />

ukvdavi simReraa… iseT simReras<br />

ver vmReri, Tu melodiuri ar<br />

aris.<br />

_ baton jansuRs SevexeT. gar-<br />

dacvalebamde ra iyo mamis bolo<br />

Txovna?<br />

_ sanam cocxali iyo, mama sul<br />

meubneboda, rom miaweqi kacobaso.<br />

TavSi ar agivardes araferi, Torem<br />

qarTvelebi uceb xelSi agitaceben<br />

da mere sul bzrial-bzrialiT<br />

qvemoT Camoxvalo.<br />

_ Tqveni dis politikur cx-<br />

ovrebaze minda gkiTxoT...<br />

_ yvelanairad Cemi dis gverdiT<br />

var. misi arCevani CemTvis misaRebia<br />

da yovelTvis mis gverdiT<br />

viqnebi, Tumca ar verevi arafer-<br />

Si, miT umetes, politikaSi. araa<br />

politika Cemi saqme.<br />

lenka zviadaZe _ momRerali:<br />

_ es iyo Zalian didi zeimi, romelic<br />

mamuka Carkvianma aCuqa qar-<br />

Tvel emigrantebs. bednieri var,<br />

rom masTan erTad momiwia am koncertSi<br />

monawileobis miReba da<br />

marTla miWirs im emociebis gadmocema,<br />

rac iq ganvicadeT. mamukas<br />

Semoqmedeba CemTvis Zalian<br />

bevr rames niSnavs.<br />

_ dueti SeasruleT Tu solo<br />

partiebi imRereT?<br />

_ gvqonda duetic da aseve daaxloebiT<br />

cxra simRera Sevasrule<br />

solo. sanam aTenSi Cavidodi, batonma<br />

avTandil miqaberiZem internetis<br />

saSualebiT gamacno saber-<br />

ZneTis „niWieris” finalisti, araCveulebrivi<br />

qarTveli momRerali<br />

lika maCitaZe, visTan erTadac<br />

Sevasrule aseve dueti.<br />

rogor<br />

daxvdnen<br />

qarTveli<br />

emigrantebi<br />

aTenSi<br />

mamuka<br />

Carkvians?!<br />

N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />

35


mixeil basilaZe<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi<br />

ix. „qronika+~ (2018w.)<br />

##3-27;29-39; (2019w.)<br />

#2-6;8-16.<br />

somxeT-TurqeTis omi<br />

1920 wlis noemberi imdenad datvirTuli<br />

aRmoCnda mniSvnelovani<br />

politikuri TemebiT, rom sxva<br />

sferoebis mimoxilvisTvis, praqtikulad,<br />

adgili ar datova. noembris<br />

centraluri movlena somxeTosmaleTis<br />

omia, romelmac kavkasiis<br />

regionSi arsebuli ZalTa balansi<br />

mniSvnelovnad Secvala. oqtombris<br />

miwuruls sabrZolo moqmedebebi<br />

ganaxlda somxeT-TurqeTis<br />

frontze. 28 oqtombers osmalebma<br />

saerTo Seteva wamoiwyes, swrafad<br />

gatexes somxuri armiis winaaRmdegoba<br />

da sakuTar kontrols<br />

dauqvemdebares ardaganis olqis<br />

nawili. ori dRis Semdeg Turqebma<br />

kidev ufro win waiwies da strategiuli<br />

qalaqi yarsi daikaves. somxuri<br />

armia uwesrigod ixevda ukan.<br />

tyved Cavarda, daaxloebiT, 3<br />

aTasamde somexi jariskaci. noembris<br />

dasawyisSi osmalTa armiam<br />

mdinare arpaCais miaRwia da aleqsadropolis<br />

(dRevandeli giumri)<br />

misadgomebTan gamoCnda.<br />

ra Tqma unda, osmalTa Seteva<br />

udides safrTxes uqmnida saqarTvelos<br />

saxelmwifoebriobasac. amitom<br />

gazeTi „saqarTvelo” somxeT-<br />

TurqeTis dapirispirebis Sesaxeb<br />

informacias yvela nomerSi centralur<br />

adgils uTmobda.<br />

4 noembers gazeTi aqveynebs masalas<br />

SemaSfoTebeli saTauriT _<br />

„yarsi daeca!”. frontze Seqmnili<br />

zogadi viTarebis aRweris Semdeg<br />

statia, ZiriTadad, im safrTxeebs<br />

mimoixilavs, romelic saqarTvelos<br />

osmalebis mxridan emuqreboda:<br />

„yarsi daeca! qemal faSas jarebma<br />

Cveni mezobel saxelmwifos<br />

sazRvrebi gadmolaxes da somxeTis<br />

uZlieresi simagre aiRes! qemal<br />

faSas jarebi Cvens sazRvrebs uaxlovdebian.<br />

Cven darwmunebulni varT, rom<br />

mezobeli somxeTi yovel Rones ixmars,<br />

raTa jerovani pasuxi gasces<br />

gaTamamebul osmalo avantiuristis<br />

ieriSebs; ubedurebis win damdgari<br />

somxeTis xalxi amoswuravs<br />

mTel Tavis Zalebs, mtris asalagmavad.<br />

magram Cven mainc saWirod<br />

migvaCnia, jerovnad davafasoT<br />

Seqmnili mdgomareoba da saqarTvelos<br />

xalxs namdvili mdgomareoba<br />

vamcnoT: qemal faSas jarebi<br />

Zlieri winsvliT modian da somxe-<br />

Tze gamarjvebuli osmalo saqar-<br />

Tvelos sazRvrebTan ar gaCerdeba.<br />

saqarTvelos winaSe axali da<br />

didi gansacdeli sdgeba: omi osmaleTTan!<br />

axalgazrda respublikisTvis<br />

uCveuli ar aris karze momdgari<br />

safrTxe _ Tavisi damoukidebeli<br />

arsebobis ori wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

man ukve ramodenime omi ganicada<br />

da damarcxebuli igi brZolis velidan<br />

ar gamosula! magram saqar-<br />

Tvelos jarebi mamacurad da erTgulad<br />

idgebian saqarTvelos saz-<br />

Rvarze mxolod maSin, roca maT-<br />

Tan iqneba saqarTvelos mTeli xalxi,<br />

ganurCevlad erovnebisa mimarTulebisa<br />

da mdgomareobisa. saqarTvelos<br />

damoukideblobas qar-<br />

Tveli xalxi aravis dauTmobs!”<br />

yarsis dacemis Semdeg somexTa<br />

mdgomareoba kritikuli gaxda. 3<br />

noembers somxeTis mTavrobam osmaleTs<br />

sabrZolo moqmedebebis<br />

SeCerebisa da molaparakebis dawyebis<br />

TxovniT mimarTa. osmaleTis<br />

armiis xelmZRvanelma qazim-faSa<br />

qarabeqirma zavis sanacvlod aleqsadropolis<br />

dauyovnebeli dacla,<br />

am raionSi arsebuli yvela satransporto<br />

komunikaciis (xidebisa<br />

da rkinigzis) gadacema da somxuri<br />

jarebis 15 kilometriT ukan<br />

daweva moiTxova. somxeTi pirobebs<br />

dasTanxmda, magram omis SeCereba<br />

mainc ver moxerxda.<br />

7 noembers osmalebi aleqsadropolSi<br />

Sevidnen. demoralizebul<br />

somxur armiaSi dezertirobam masobrivi<br />

xasiaTi miiRo. fronti<br />

moirRva da osmalebs erevanze<br />

pirdapiri gza gaexsnaT. Turqebma<br />

am viTarebiT isargebles da axali<br />

piroba wamoayenes, romlis mixedviTac<br />

somxeTis mTavrobas mTeli<br />

SeiaraReba unda Caebarebina da jarebi<br />

kidev ufro ukan unda daexia.<br />

es, faqtobrivad, kapitulacias<br />

niSnavda, romelic somxebma ar miiRes.<br />

11 noembers Seteva ganaxlda,<br />

romlis Sedegadac Turqebma erevnisa<br />

da sevanis tbis garda, somxeTis<br />

mTeli teritoria daikaves.<br />

mobilizacia saqarTveloSi<br />

osmaleTis mosalodnel samxedro<br />

agresiasTan dakavSirebiT saqarTveloSi<br />

nawilobrivi mobilizacia<br />

gamocxadda. jarSi iwvevdnen<br />

1890-1893 wlebSi dabadebul rezervistebs.<br />

Svebuleba gauqmda saxalxo<br />

gvardiaSi. mobilizaciis vadad<br />

10-15 noemberi ganisazRvra. Sinagan<br />

saqmeTa ministris mier gamocemuli<br />

brZanebis Tanaxmad, is pirebi,<br />

romlebic jarSi gawvevas Tavs<br />

aaridebdnen, saomari viTarebis Sesabamisi<br />

simkacriT daisjebodnen.<br />

mobilizaciasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

sagangebo brZaneba gamosca samxedro<br />

ministrma grigol lorTqifaniZem.<br />

am brZanebas gazeTi „saqarTvelo~<br />

12 noembris nomerSi<br />

aqveynebs. amonaridi brZanebidan:<br />

„mobilizaciis dros gauqmebulia<br />

yovelgvari SeRavaTi da gawveul<br />

unda iqmnan samobilizacio wleb-<br />

Si dabadebulni yvela saTadarigo<br />

da molaSqre jaris kacni, miuxedavad<br />

maTi samoqalaqo Tanamdebobisa...<br />

kategoriulad ebrZaneba respublikis<br />

yvela samxedro, samoqalaqo<br />

da sazogado dawesebulebaTa<br />

ufrosebs Seswyviton ama Tu<br />

im gasawvevebze gamocxadebis vadis<br />

gagrZelebis Sesaxeb yovelgvari<br />

SuamdgomlobaTa aRZvra da dauyovnebliv<br />

gaaTavisuflon isini mim-<br />

Reb komisiaSi gamosacxadeblaT”.<br />

damfuZnebelma krebam specialuri<br />

mimarTva miiRo, sadac mosaxleobas<br />

moaxloebuli safrTxis<br />

Sesaxeb amcnobda da patriotebs<br />

samSoblos dasacavad brZolisken<br />

mouwodebda.<br />

gazeTi „saqarTvelo”. 1920<br />

wlis 16 noemberi: „saqarTvelos<br />

xalxo! Cveni qveynis saukeTeso Svilebis<br />

sisxliT morwyul sazRvrebs<br />

kvlav emuqreba Tavxedi mteri.<br />

usaSinlesi tanjviT dauZlurebuli<br />

somxeTi didi wvalebiT uwevs<br />

winaaRmdegobas qemal-faSis brboebs:<br />

daeca yarsi, somxeTis saukeTeso<br />

simagre; osmalebma daiWires<br />

gumbri (aleqsadropoli). somxeTis<br />

ubedureba safrTxes umzadebs saqarTvelos<br />

Tavisufal arsebobas.<br />

qarTvelo xalxo! Seni Tavisufali<br />

demokratiuli samSoblo isev<br />

gansacdelSia da Sengan arCeuli<br />

damfuZnebeli kreba kvlav TavdacvisaTvis<br />

mogiwodebs. samSoblo<br />

mravalgvar msxverpls moiTxovs.<br />

Semoikribe Seni damfuZnebeli krebisa<br />

da mTavrobis irgvliv. daicaviT<br />

SigniT wesiereba. siyvaruliT<br />

da mzrunvelobiT moepyariT Cvens<br />

fronts. iqonieT Seudrekeli rwmena<br />

mterze gamarjvebisa da maSin<br />

saxelovani iqneba Cveni brZola.<br />

brwyinvale iqneba Cveni gamarjveba!”<br />

borCalos mazris dakaveba<br />

qarTuli armiis mier<br />

osmalTa Setevam da somxeTis<br />

istoriis<br />

faqtobrivma kapitulaciam dRis<br />

wesrigSi lores raionis kuTvnilebis<br />

sakiTxi daayena. 1918 wlis<br />

somxeT-saqarTvelos omis dros<br />

borCalos mazris sadavo teritoria<br />

– lores raioni – neitralur<br />

zonad gamocxadda. misi kuTvnilebis<br />

saboloo garkvevamde ki<br />

loreSi morigeobiT qarTuli da<br />

somxuri jari patrulirebda. Tumca<br />

maSin, rodesac osmalTa armiam<br />

mTlianad daikava somxeTis CrdiloeTi<br />

da somxeTma saqarTvelosTan<br />

saerTo sazRvari dakarga,<br />

okupaciis safrTxe lores neitralur<br />

zonasac daemuqra. loreSi<br />

osmalTa gabatoneba rom ar daeSva,<br />

saqarTvelos xelisuflebam raionSi<br />

qarTuli samxedro nawilebis<br />

Seyvana gadawyvita.<br />

am TemasTan dakavSirebiT gaze-<br />

Ti „saqarTvelo” 1920 wlis 13<br />

noembers did statias aqveynebs,<br />

romelic erovnul-demokratiuli<br />

partiis Tavmjdomare spiridon<br />

kedias ekuTvnis: „dRes somxeTma<br />

dahkarga saqarTvelos sxeulTan<br />

uSualo teritoriuli kontakti<br />

da borCalos Ria karebs qemali Semoadga...<br />

mdgomareobis saboloo<br />

garkvevamde, saqarTvelos SeeZlo<br />

borCalos mazraSi somxeTis mezobloba<br />

aetana da uSiSraTac yofiliyo.<br />

saqarTvelos ar SeuZlian am<br />

gvarsave sulier ganwyobilebaSi<br />

iyos dRes, rodesac aq somxeTis<br />

magier osmaleTis Cadgomaa mosalodneli.<br />

saSineli mdgomareoba Seiqmneba<br />

CvenTvis! Tbilisi uSualo gansacdelSi<br />

Cavardeba! Cveni Tavdacvis<br />

unari da Zala sanaxevroT<br />

daziandeba. neitrali zonis xazze<br />

qarTveli eri qemal faSas ver<br />

gaaCerebs, Tu Tavis arsebobazed<br />

xeli ar auRia. meores mxriT, ganadgurebul<br />

somxeTs ar SeuZlian<br />

am zonis dacva. aseT pirobebSi, Tu<br />

somxeTs ar surs saqarTvelos<br />

damxoba, man Tanxmoba unda mogvces,<br />

rom Cvenma jarma borCalo<br />

dauyovneblov daiWiros da mters<br />

dauxvdes bezobdalis qedzed!<br />

somxeTis aseTi nabiji awiokebas<br />

aaridebs im somxobas, romelic<br />

neitral zonaSi mosaxleobs da<br />

romelsac qemal faSa aras gziT ar<br />

daindobs! Tu somxeTma amis neba ar<br />

mogvca, sCans imas gardauwyvetia,<br />

raki TviTon waxda, Cvenc wagvaxdinos<br />

da qemal faSas pirSi migvces.<br />

maSin? maSin Cven Cveni unda vqnaT:<br />

dauyovnebliv unda daviWiroT neitrali<br />

zona da pirveli poziciebi<br />

im qedebze gavmarToT, romelnic<br />

yovelTvis saukeTeso damcvelni<br />

yofilan Tbilisisa da saqar-<br />

Tvelosi. CvenTvis yvelaferia Cveni<br />

damoukideblobis dacva. es ki<br />

1920 wlis<br />

moiTxovs im borCalos saswrafo<br />

daWeras, romelic yovelTvis Cveni<br />

yofila da aris. erTi danaSauli<br />

CavidineT da borCalos nawili<br />

sadaoT gavixadeT. ar CavidinoT<br />

meore danaSauli da ar davkargoT<br />

mTeli borCalo da mas zed<br />

saqarTveloc ar mivayoloT!”<br />

afxazeTis avtonomia<br />

1920 wlis 10 noembris gazeTi<br />

„saqarTvelo” iuwyeba, rom 6 noembers<br />

TbilisSi Camovida afxazeTis<br />

saxalxo sabWos 8-kaciani delegacia,<br />

romelsac ServaSiZe xelmZRvanelobda.<br />

saqarTvelos damfuZnebel<br />

krebasTan erTad, delegacias<br />

afxazeTis konstituciis saboloo<br />

varianti unda SeemuSavebina.<br />

rogorc cnobidan Cans, afxazebma<br />

TbilisSi konstituciis saku-<br />

Tari versia Camoitanes da is gansaxilvelad<br />

damfuZnebeli krebis<br />

prezidiumis interpartiul komisias<br />

gadasces. gazeTi aRniSnavs,<br />

rom afxazTa mier SemuSavebuli<br />

proeqti, ZiriTadad, misaRebi iyo<br />

da damatebiTi SeTanxmeba mxolod<br />

miwisa da sagareo vaWrobis politikis<br />

sakiTxs esaWiroeboda.<br />

afxazeTis avtonomiasTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT, 21 noembers gazeTi „saqarTvelo”<br />

kidev erT informacias<br />

aqveynebs, saidanac vigebT, rom<br />

afxazeTis delegaciam samuSao Sexvedra<br />

gamarTa saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />

Tavmjdomare noe JordaniasTan<br />

da mas konstituciis proeqtis<br />

moxsenebis asli gadasca: „moxsenebaSi<br />

Camoyalibebulia saqarTvelo-abxazeTis<br />

damokidebulebis<br />

punqtebi. moxsenebaSi aRniSnulia<br />

agreTve isic, rom saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobis mier Sepirebuli avtonomiuri<br />

marTva-gamgeoba abxazeTSi,<br />

jerjerobiT, faqtiurad<br />

ar yofila ganxorcielebuli.<br />

delegaciam moiTxova, dRes<br />

saswrafo zomebi iqnas centraluri<br />

mTavrobis mier miRebuli abxazeTis<br />

avtonomiur pirobebSi Cayenebis<br />

saqmeSi da saamisod damfuZnebelma<br />

krebam Tavis Semadgenlobidan<br />

gamohyos sagangebo komisia,<br />

romelic detalurad SeimuSavebs<br />

avtonomiis statuss. Jordaniam<br />

delegacias miugo, rom sagangebo<br />

komisiis arCeva zedmetia, maSin,<br />

rodesac arsebobs saerTo sakonstitucio<br />

komisia, romelic abxazeTis<br />

avtonomiis sakiTxsac ganixilavs.<br />

mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem<br />

naadrevad CaTvala agreTve abxaze-<br />

Tis avtonomiis calke ganxilva, manam<br />

sanam ar ganxilula sruliad<br />

saqarTvelos konstitucia”.<br />

interviu sergo<br />

orjonikiZesTan<br />

1920 wlis 2 noembris nomerSi<br />

gazeTi „saqarTvelo” aqveynebs<br />

ruseTis bolSevikuri partiis kavkasiis<br />

biuros xelmZRvanel sergo<br />

orjonikiZis mosazrebas ruseTsa<br />

da saqarTvelos Soris urTierTobis<br />

Sesaxeb. dabeWdili statiis<br />

mixedviT, orjonikiZe irwmuneba,<br />

rom bolSevikuri xelisufleba<br />

saqarTvelosTan keTilmezoblur<br />

urTierTobas eswrafis da yvelafers<br />

akeTebs, raTa or qveyanas<br />

Soris normaluri damokidebuleba<br />

momavalSic gagrZeldes: „ar<br />

aris marTali is xmebi, TiTqos me<br />

moviTxovde saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg<br />

agresiuli politikis warmoebas.<br />

winaaRmdeg, sabWoTa ruseTis<br />

mTavrobis mizania dRes ara omi,<br />

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noemberi<br />

gegeWkori, romelsac im dResve 20<br />

seqtembers ecnoba depeSiT<br />

saqarTvelos respublikis warmomadgenlad<br />

daniSvna erTa ligaSi<br />

da saWiro mandatic gaegzavna.<br />

amasTan erTad, depeSiT da calke<br />

weriliT euwya amis Sesaxeb ligis<br />

sabWos mdivans. yvela saWiro masala<br />

saqarTvelos Sesaxeb Jenevis<br />

krebisaTvis warsadgenad adre gaegzavna<br />

ligis sabWos mdivans baton<br />

n. driumans Tanaxmad misi moTxovnisa”.<br />

germaniis mier saqarTvelos<br />

damoukideblobis cnoba<br />

1920 wlis 6 noembris gazeT<br />

„saqarTveloSi” dabeWdilia mTavrobis<br />

Setyobineba, rom 24 seqtembers<br />

germaniis respublikam oficialurad<br />

(de iure) cno saqarTvelos<br />

damoukidebloba. es sasixarulo<br />

ambavi Cvens xelisuflebas berlinSi<br />

saqarTvelos diplomatiurma<br />

warmomadgenelma, batonma axmetelaSvilma<br />

acnoba. rogorc am informaciidan<br />

irkveva, saqarTveloSi<br />

germaniis elCad germaniis so-<br />

vaweobas. germanelebma iseTi amagi<br />

dasdes qarTvel ers, romelic ar<br />

warixoceba mis gulidan aras dros<br />

da STamomavlobas gardaecema, vi-<br />

Tarca samagaliTo nimuSi patiosnebisa<br />

da uaRresi gulwrfelobisa.<br />

germanelebma pirvelebma faqtiurad<br />

amoxazes Cveni saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

sazRvrebi da samagali-<br />

To aqtivoba gamoiCines mis gafar-<br />

Toebis procesSi saqarTvelos istoriul,<br />

ekonomiur-geografiul<br />

da strategiul interesebis mixedviT.<br />

germaniis sardloba samarTlianad<br />

darwmunebuli iyo, rom saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriuli pretenziebi<br />

arsebiTad minimaluri iyo<br />

da savsebiT emyareboda misTvis<br />

miniWebul uflebriv normebs.<br />

gana qarTvel xalxis mexsierebidan<br />

odesme amoiSleba is faqti,<br />

rom im dros, rodesac saqarTvelos<br />

Sesamusravad mrisxaned moiwevda<br />

germaniis oficialuri mokav-<br />

Sire, misi TanamebrZole brwyinvale<br />

porta, romlis jarebi Cvens<br />

dedaqalaqs emuqreboden, _ germaniis<br />

sardlobam realuri mfarv-<br />

mimarTa. wirvaze imyofeboda<br />

Tbilisis garnizonis nawili. giorgobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT gaimarTa<br />

samxedro aRlumi da jariskacebma<br />

rusTavelis gamzirze samxedro<br />

ministris winaSe ceremonialuri<br />

marSiT gaiares. samxedro ministris<br />

garda aRlums iusticiis ministri<br />

arseniZec eswreboda, romelmac<br />

jariskacebs giorgobis<br />

dResaswauli miuloca da maT sam-<br />

Soblos Tavdacvis saqmeSi warmateba<br />

usurva.<br />

mTavrobis Tavmjdomare noe<br />

Jordanias gankargulebiT, 1920<br />

wlis 11 noembridan saqarTveloSi<br />

SeizRuda avtomobilebiT moZraoba.<br />

rogorc gazeTi „saqarTvelos”<br />

14 noembris nomridan vigebT, es<br />

SezRudva qveyanaSi saTbob-sawvavi<br />

masalis mwvave deficitiT iyo ganpirobebuli.<br />

gamonakliss Seadgendnen<br />

mxolod ucxouri misiis<br />

kuTvnili avtomobilebi.<br />

Tbilisis miliciis ufrosis<br />

gankargulebiT qalaqSi aikrZala<br />

Senobebsa da Robeebze afiSebisa<br />

da gancxadebebis gakvra. gazeT<br />

aramed mSvidobianoba, ara laSqroba,<br />

aramed ekonomiuri mdgomareobis<br />

gaumjebeseba gansakuTrebiT<br />

saqarTvelos mimarT. moskovis<br />

mTavroba, _ romelsac ainteresebs<br />

Savi zRvis zogierTi porti, _ iZulebulia,<br />

yovelgvari uTanxmoeba<br />

Tavidan airidos. saqarTvelos<br />

Cven ZaliT ar vaxvevT Tavze komunistur<br />

weswyobilebas. es sakiTxi<br />

man damoukideblad unda<br />

gadaWras.<br />

sabWoTa mTavrobis wreebSi armiis<br />

Sesaxeb im azris arian, rom<br />

rac SeiZleba male moaxdinon vrangelis<br />

frontis likvidacia da jari<br />

daubrunon nayofier Sromas. es<br />

Sromis laSqari yovelTvis mzad<br />

iqneba, iaraRiT daicvas proletariatis<br />

interesebi”.<br />

rasakvirvelia, orjonikiZe utifrad<br />

cruobda. sinamdvileSi, kavbiuros<br />

xelmZRvanels saqarTvelos<br />

damoukideblobis gagonebac<br />

ar surda da yvelafers akeTebda,<br />

raTa Cvens qveyanaSi sabWoTa xelisufleba<br />

damyarebuliyo. saqarTvelos<br />

okupaciis mcdeloba sergo<br />

orjonikiZes, jer kidev, 1920<br />

wlis maisSi hqonda. azerbaijanis<br />

gasabWoebis Semdeg wiTeli armiis<br />

nawilebma saqarTvelos Seuties,<br />

magram bolSevikebi qarTul armiasTan<br />

sasazRvro brZolaSi damarcxdnen.<br />

garda amisa, garTulebuli<br />

sagareo mdgomareobis gamo,<br />

orjonikiZis iniciativas maSin<br />

moskovma mxari ar dauWira da sergo<br />

iZulebuli gaxda, ukan daexia.<br />

erTa liga da saqarTvelo<br />

1920 wlis 3 noembers gazeTi „saqarTvelo”<br />

erT mniSvnelovan informacias<br />

beWdavs, romelic erTa<br />

ligas exeba. erTa liga dRevandeli<br />

gaeros winamorbedi saer-<br />

TaSoriso organizacia iyo, romelic<br />

pirveli msoflio omis Semdeg<br />

gamarjvebulma saxelmwifoebma Seqmnes.<br />

wesdebis Tanaxmad, ligis wevri<br />

saxelmwifoebi valdebulebas<br />

iRebdnen, erTmaneTs gare agresiis<br />

SemTxvevaSi daxmarebodnen. erTa<br />

ligaSi saqarTvelos gawevrianeba<br />

saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis mier<br />

Cveni qveynis damoukideblobis<br />

srulfasovan cnobasa da sagareo<br />

safrTxeebis Tavidan acilebis<br />

SesaZleblobas iZleoda.<br />

rogorc sagazeTo publikaciidan<br />

irkveva, 1920 wlis 20 seqtembers<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem<br />

erTa ligis samdivnosgan<br />

oficialuri Setyobineba miiRo,<br />

rom 15 noembers JenevaSi ligis<br />

pirveli sxdoma Catardeboda da am<br />

sxdomaze saqarTvelos warmomadgenelsac<br />

iwvevdnen: „...am krebaze<br />

iqneba aRZruli da garCeuli saqarTvelos<br />

respublikis ligis wevrad<br />

miRebis sakiTxi. SesaZloa, swerda<br />

sabWos mdivani, krebam moisurvos<br />

Tqveni sakiTxis Sesaxeb sityvieri<br />

ganmartebis mosmena, amisTvis<br />

saWiroa daniSnoT Tqveni warmomadgeneli.<br />

mTavrobam aseT warmomadgenlad<br />

daniSna am Jamad evropaSi myofi<br />

sagareo saqmeTa ministri e.<br />

cial-demokratiuli partiis cnobili<br />

wevri, udris rauxeri daini-<br />

Sna.<br />

ukve 7 noembers gazeTi „saqar-<br />

Tvelo” am faqts didi statiiT gamoexmaura,<br />

sadac aRniSnulia, rom<br />

germania yovelTvis iyo saqarTvelos<br />

uangaro megobari da swored<br />

germania uwevda daxmarebas Cvens<br />

axalgazrda respublikas damoukideblobis<br />

gamocxadebis pirvel<br />

dReebSi. amonaridi statiidan:<br />

„qarTveloba ver daiviwyebs im<br />

dros aq myof germanel sardlobisa<br />

da sazogadoT jaris moR-<br />

eloba aRmouCina saqarTvelos da<br />

kategoriuli brZanebiT SeaCera<br />

gaTamamebuli osmaleTi! SeiZleba<br />

gadaWriT iTqvas, rom mxolod germaniis<br />

jarebi faqtiurad icavdnen<br />

im Znel drois saqarTvelos<br />

miwa-wyals! maTi meoxebiT SevZeliT<br />

Segveqmna reguliaruli militaruli<br />

Zala, mogvewyo saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

normebi da gangvemtkicebina<br />

marTva-gamgeobis aparati...”<br />

mokle ambebi<br />

italiis saaviaco qarxanam, romlisganac<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobam<br />

1920 wlis zafxulSi ramdenime haeroplani<br />

Seisyida, Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

piloti antonio levantino da meqanikosi<br />

Zemalini gamoagzavna.<br />

rogorc gazeTi „saqarTvelo” iuwyeba,<br />

italielebi qarTvel pilotebs<br />

uaxlesi safreni aparatis<br />

marTvis SeswavlaSi daexmarebodnen<br />

da maT teqnikur daxmarebas<br />

gauwevdnen.<br />

23 noembers saqarTveloSi giorgoba<br />

aRniSnes. qaSueTis eklesia-<br />

Si saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqma<br />

leonidem sadResaswaulo<br />

wirva Caatara. wirvis Semdeg gadaixades<br />

paraklisi, sadac kaTolikosma<br />

mrevls mxurvale sityviT<br />

„saqarTvelos” 19 noembris nomer-<br />

Si dabeWdil am gankargulebaSi mi-<br />

TiTebulia, rom afiSebisa da sxva<br />

sareklamo masalis ganTavseba mxolod<br />

specialur saafiSo svetebze<br />

iyo nebadarTuli. „ubrZaneT<br />

komisrebs, rom am brZanebis Sesrulebas<br />

sastiki Tvalyuri adevnon<br />

da sadac gakrulia gancxadebebi<br />

dRemde dauyovnebliv moafxekinon<br />

saxlis an sadgomis patronebs da<br />

an maT meezoveebs. sami dRis Semdeg,<br />

dReis ricxvidan, komisrebi<br />

da maTi TanaSemweebi, am brZanebis<br />

SeusrulebaSi SeniSnulni, Cem mier<br />

iqnebian dasjilni”, _ naTqvamia<br />

Tbilisis miliciis ufrosis gancxadebaSi.<br />

1920 wlis 27 noembris gazeT<br />

„saqarTveloSi” gamoqveynebuli<br />

cnoba mkiTxvelebs auwyebs, rom<br />

momavali wlis, anu 1921 wlis 25<br />

noembridan myardeboda satelefono<br />

kavSiri Tbilisi-axmeta-Telavs<br />

Soris. rogorc irkveva, Tavdapirvelad,<br />

moqalaqeebs am xazze<br />

telefoniT saubari dRis mxolod<br />

garkveul periodSi SeeZlebodaT.<br />

miTiTebulia sasaubrod xelmisawvdomi<br />

saaTebic: dilis 9-dan 10<br />

saaTamde; dRis 13-dan 14 saaTamde<br />

da saRamos 17-dan 18 saaTamde.<br />

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toCis<br />

dadebiTi<br />

katikosi<br />

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xandaxan Cvenebursac xom<br />

unda gaumarTlos? levan gorgaZes<br />

oZek takakeisiosTan uwevda<br />

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iyo nabrZoli 22 wlis goliaT-<br />

Tan da erTaderTxel hqonda<br />

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safrTxilo saqme gaxldaT.<br />

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dRis Semdeg moixsna turniridan<br />

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dapirispirebis win ki<br />

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daJinebuli moTxovniT, isev<br />

moixsna.<br />

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ki merve mogeba ubrZolvelad<br />

miiTvala. dadebiTi balansi (katikosi)<br />

ukve dafiqsirebulia.<br />

axla oZekis titulia dasabrunebeli,<br />

saamisod ki darCenil 6<br />

brZolaSi ori mogebac eyofa,<br />

magram metic SeiZleba. imperatoris<br />

TasisTvis brZolas sami<br />

lideri hyavs: levani, iokoZuna<br />

kakuriu da maegaSira asanoiama.<br />

morigi metoqe mitakuemua iqneba,<br />

romelsac pirad Sexvedreb-<br />

Si 7:3 ugebs.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, baSos iokoZuna<br />

da erTi oZeki ukve gamoeTiSnen,<br />

kidev or oZekis ki CempionobisTvis<br />

brZolis Teoriuli<br />

SansiRa darCa. konkurenti mxolod<br />

iokoZuna kakuriua da sakmarisi<br />

iyo levans waego, manac<br />

myisve waago.<br />

mokled, levans imperatoris<br />

Tasis mopovebis kargi Sansi<br />

aqvs.<br />

am saqmeSi sakuTari interesi<br />

iaponur mafiasac hqonia – totalizatorebSi<br />

sumos fsonebze<br />

brunva bevrze bevri milionia…<br />

aqve vTqvaT, rom Zurios divizionSi<br />

meeqvse gamarjveba moipova<br />

gagamarud monaTlulma<br />

Teimuraz juRelma.<br />

borkilebi<br />

gasaxdelSi<br />

arbitrma<br />

baraTebi<br />

gaaCuqa<br />

da wavida<br />

ioan runsari safrangeTSi<br />

cnobili arbitria. asakma uwia<br />

musie rusnars, kariera unda da-<br />

esrulebina da es bolo wertili<br />

Zalian lamazad dasva.<br />

safrangeTis meore divizion-<br />

Si paraskevs erTmaneTs „meci” da<br />

„bresti” (1:0) daupirispirdnen.<br />

arbitrma ZiriTad dros xuTi<br />

wuTi daamata, magram sami wuTis<br />

Semdeg daSla-armoSlisa Castvi-<br />

na da gundebs centrSi uxmo.<br />

ioan runsarma jibidan bara-<br />

Tebi amoiRo da TiTo cali saCu-<br />

qrad gadasca metoqeebs, mere ki<br />

specialuri sprei moimarjva da<br />

moedanze uzarmazari asoebiT<br />

„madloba” dawera.<br />

45 wlis msajis karieraSi es<br />

ukanaskneli matCi iyo. sul run-<br />

sarma 600-ze meti matCi mxolod<br />

safrangeTis profesiul ligeb-<br />

Si gansaja.<br />

ratom ar undaT grizmani barselonaSi?<br />

madridis „atletikodan” antuan<br />

grizmanis „barselonaSi” transferis<br />

momxreebs kataloniel gul-<br />

SematkivrebTan, klubis xelmZRvanelobasTan<br />

da moTamaSeebTan<br />

rTuli molaparakebebis daZleva<br />

mouwevT.<br />

grizmani „kamp nouze” SarSanac<br />

unda gadasuliyo, magram man transferi<br />

Tavad CaSala da mere amis<br />

Sesaxeb espaneTSi gavrcelebul<br />

dokumentur filmSi ilaparaka.<br />

frangis damokidebulebam ki didi<br />

klubis banaki gaaRiziana.<br />

axla ki msoflios Cempionma<br />

Tqva, rom zafxulSi is ueWvelad<br />

datovebs „atletikos” da iqve gavrcelda<br />

xma, rom misi gza kvlav kataloniis<br />

dedaqalaqSi midis.<br />

frangulma „ekipma” oTxSabaTs<br />

isic ki dawera, TiTqos fexbur-<br />

Telsa da „blaugranas” Soris ukve<br />

yvelaferi molaparakebulia. misi<br />

TqmiT, mxareebi xuTwlian Tanam-<br />

Sromlobaze SeTanxmdnen, romlis<br />

ganmavlobaSic grizmani daqviTvis<br />

Semdeg weliwadSi 17 milion evros<br />

miiRebs.<br />

Tavis mxriv „barselona” „ekipis”<br />

cnobis dadasturebas ar Cqarobs,<br />

radgan SeTanxmeba jer qaRaldze<br />

ar dawerila da xelmowerebiT<br />

ar ganmtkicebula. anu grizmans<br />

kidev SeuZlia sxva klubSi<br />

gadasvla.<br />

cnobili gaxda, rom es sxva<br />

klubi ar iqneba „pari sen Jermeni”.<br />

parizelebma ganacxades, rom 28<br />

wlis Tavdamsxmeli ar ainteresebT.<br />

grizmanis yidvas „barselonas”<br />

direqtoratSic bevri mowinaaRmdege<br />

hyavs. mizezi: isini SarSandelis<br />

gamo Seuracxyofilad grZnoben<br />

Tavs. amboben, TiTqos frangs<br />

arc „kamp nous” gasaxdelSi miesalmebian.<br />

gazeTma „sportma~ gulSematkivarTa<br />

gamokiTxva moawyo, romlis<br />

Tanaxmadac qomagebis 66% grizmanis<br />

„barsaSi” gadasvlas ar miesalmeba.<br />

„barselonas” yofili prezi-<br />

denti Joan laporta: „gulSematkivarTa<br />

umetesobas ar unda, rom<br />

klubma grizmani iyidos. amis mizezi<br />

sxvasTan erTad misi gazviadebuli<br />

fasicaa. vfiqrob, qveynad arian<br />

kargi fexburTelebi, romlebic<br />

grizmanze aranakleb gaakeTeben imis,<br />

rac TiTqos mxolod mas SeuZlia<br />

gaakeTos „kamp nouze”.<br />

Cawyobili matCebi da mamaZaRloba<br />

qarTul fexburTSi mouSo-<br />

rebel Wirad rCeba. winaswar garigebuli<br />

TamaSebis gamo qarTve-<br />

li fexburTelebi adrec daukav-<br />

ebiaT da axlac igive moxda.<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />

samsaxuris antiko-<br />

rufciulma saagentom, vit-jor-<br />

jias ramdenime fexburTels<br />

borkilebi pirdapir gasaxdelSi<br />

daado. vit-jorjia baTumSi adgilobriv<br />

dinamosTan 0:2 damarcx-<br />

da, veterinarTa erTbaSad xuTi<br />

fexburTeli ki swored matCis<br />

dasrulebis Semdeg, ramdenime<br />

wuTSi daakaves.<br />

dakavebulebi arian: paata Ru-<br />

duSauri, giorgi kiknaveliZe,<br />

giorgi geTiaSvili, joni Sero-<br />

zia da nika maisuraZe.<br />

garigebul matCebSi monawile-<br />

obas gamarTleba aba rogor aqvs<br />

magram rodesac fexburTelebs<br />

ukve Tveebia xelfasebi ar auRi-<br />

aT, Znelia cdunebas gauZlo.<br />

am Temis gagrZelebas Semdeg<br />

nomerSi SemogTavazebT.<br />

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mxiTarians saxlSi toveben<br />

azerbaijanis safexburTo federaciaTa asociaciam<br />

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genrix mxiTarianTan dakavSirebiT:<br />

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rom am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT mogvmarTes.<br />

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saWiro gadawyvetileba miiRo da SegviZlia sruli<br />

pasuxismgeblobiT ganvacxadoT, rom genrix<br />

mxiTarianis usafrTxoeba evropis ligis Tasis<br />

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evropis ligis jgufuri etapis matCi gamotova<br />

azerbaijanul „yarabaxTan”, 2015 wels ki,<br />

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arCasvliT somexi fexburTeli ufro<br />

politikur mizans isaxavs da konfliqtze yuradRebis<br />

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ar Castvino, cotac maTamaSe<br />

amsterdamis „aiaqsma” stumrad „graafsxapi” 4:1 gaanadgura<br />

da gaCempionda. reportaJisas kadrSi moxvda wami, roca<br />

amsterdamelTa erT-erTi lideri frenki de iongi arbitr<br />

dani mikelisTan mivida da sTxova: „cota meti dro daamate,<br />

kidev minda viTamaSo. kargi?!”<br />

bavSvuri gulubryvilobiT da sialaliT naTqvamma<br />

frazam mTeli holandia SeZra. frenkis bolojer ecva „aiaqsis”<br />

maisura.<br />

de iongi ukve „barselonas” wevria, 75 milion evrod nayidi<br />

varskvlavis statusiT, jer leo mesis partniorad da<br />

mere mis Semcvlelad rom egulebaT. saxli mainc ar eTmoba<br />

frenkis, arada, „aiaqsi” misi saxlia. am klubma misca yvelaferi,<br />

rac gaaCnia da kidev ramdenime wuTiT undoda maisuris<br />

tareba.<br />

qomagebma emociuri gamoTxoveba mouwyves: „gmadlobT,<br />

frenki. Cven ar vtiriT imis gamo, rom midixar. Cven viRimiT<br />

imis gamo, rom gvyavdi”.<br />

kiriosis<br />

sigiJe<br />

romis saCogburTo mastersze avstralielma nik kiriosma ambebi Caa-<br />

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radgan emociur kirioss pirobiT-gamosacdeli vada jer kidev Sanxais<br />

mastersidan mosdevs. kolegas TviT rojer federeri gamoeqomaga, _<br />

ukve dakisrebuli sasjelebic eyofa da diskvalifikacia metismeti<br />

iqnebao. Tavad nik kiriosma mokle komentari gaakeTa: „albaT metismetad<br />

emociuri var da msajis usamarTlo gadawyvetilebebze metis-<br />

metad aqtiurad vreagireb. nebismier SemTxvevaSi bodiSsa da madlobas<br />

vuxdi roms. madloba mayureblebs. imedia, kidev SevxvdebiT~.<br />

meomrebi da yvela danarCeni<br />

nebismier amerikels istoriaSi<br />

ucudesi sakalaTburTo gundis<br />

dasaxeleba rom sTxovoT, umal<br />

2004 wlis aTenis olimpiada gaaxsendeba.<br />

varskvlavebiT dakompleqtebulma<br />

„drim Timma” sami matCis<br />

wageba „moaxerxa” da mxolod mesame<br />

adgilze gavida.<br />

alen aiversoni da stefon marberi<br />

erTmaneTs saerTod ar<br />

aZlevdnen burTs...<br />

lebron jeimsi, karmelo entoni<br />

da duein ueidi ubralod Rlabucobdnen...<br />

mwvrTneli lari brauni qomagebTan<br />

bodiSebis moxdas ver audioda...<br />

Turme, jer sad xar?! im gundis<br />

wevrma, lamar odomma, iseTi sensa-<br />

ara da ar gamoCnda gundi, romelic araTu daamarcxebs seriaSi,<br />

Rirseulad mainc rom eomeba „golden steits~. . xan vin dauTqves<br />

tolsworad da xan _ vin, magram yvelas erTi bedi ewia.<br />

dasavleTis konferenciis finalSi „meomrebma” maspinZeli<br />

„portlendi” 110:99 daamarcxes da seriaSi 3:0 dawinaurdnen. didi<br />

Sesvenebisas maspinZlebi liderobdnen, magram meore naxevarSi<br />

„golden steitma” superkalaTburTi iTamaSa da drois es monakve-<br />

Ti 24 quliT moigo.<br />

namdvilad ver gagaocebT, Tu vityviT, rom gamarjvebulTa Soris<br />

saukeTeso stef kari iyo 36 quliT. mis monagars grinma sammagi<br />

dubli (20+13+12) daumata da gamarjvebac gamocxva.<br />

naTxovari Sardi da<br />

olimpiuri katastrofa<br />

cia daaxeTqa, egeb amerikelebs is<br />

brinjaoc CamoarTvan.<br />

odomis TqmiT, olimpiadamde<br />

lamis yoveldRe marixuanas eweoda<br />

da roca uTxres, doping-testi<br />

unda Caabaroo, mixvda, rom olimpiadis<br />

miRma rCeboda. man da misma<br />

mwvrTnelma gegma dasaxes: iyides<br />

silikonis penisi da misi sicariele<br />

mwvrTnelis SardiT Seavses.<br />

mere, roca doping-oficeri zurgsukan<br />

or metrSi edga, odomma Cumad<br />

gamoaZro silikonis organo da<br />

„testi” Caabara. ver getyviT, kav-<br />

SirSia Tu ara odomis „fokusTan”,<br />

magram axali regulaciebiT sportsmenma<br />

testis Cabarebisas Sarvali<br />

muxlebamde mainc unda Caixados<br />

da zedatanic aucileblad<br />

moklesaxeloebiani unda ecvas.<br />

turinis iuves didi xniT vin daaoblebs?<br />

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„iuventusi” vinme xurda gundi ar<br />

aris, rom misi mTavari mwvrTnelis<br />

sakiTxi Tundac erTi kviriT gamoekidos<br />

haerSi. klubma paraskevs gamoacxada<br />

masimeliano alegrisTan Tanam-<br />

Sromlobis gawyvetis Sesaxeb da imave<br />

saRamos italiurma totalizatorebma<br />

axali mTavari mwvrTnelis vinaobis<br />

gamocnobaze fsonebis miReba daiwyes.<br />

antonio konte _ 2,5<br />

fanebis favoritia, dRemde uyvarT<br />

turinSi da, Tavis mxriv, elodeba topklubSi<br />

boZebul Sanss. jerjerobiT<br />

favoritia.<br />

mauricio poCetino _ 4,5<br />

aranormaluri „totnhemis” Semqmneli,<br />

romelmac icis, rogor aaSenos<br />

gundi erTi evros dauxarjavad. andrea<br />

anieli sulac araa winaaRmdegi,<br />

Tuki argentineli dasturs ityvis.<br />

mauricio sari _ 6,5<br />

kontes Semdeg jidev erTi kandidati,<br />

vinc „Celsi” gamoiara. argumentebi<br />

naklebia da am siaSi klubidan<br />

gamoJonili informaciiT moxvda.<br />

Joze mourinio _ 8,0<br />

kidev erTi Celseli mTlad favoriti<br />

ar aris, magram Tuki evropaSi<br />

grandi umwvrTnelod rCeba, seu Jozes<br />

aucileblad axseneben.<br />

aris kidev erTi faruli favoriti,<br />

romelsac anieli daufiqreblad gauformebda<br />

kontraqts _ didie deSami<br />

Tavisi turinuli warsuliT absoluturad<br />

misaRebi figuraa, magram safrangeTis<br />

nakrebs, albaT, ver Seeleva.<br />

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fulismaZieblebi<br />

kavea galeria<br />

15:00; 20:15<br />

kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

12:30; 15:00; 17:15; 22:15<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

14:45; 17:15; 21:45<br />

ori nabijiT Sors<br />

amirani<br />

12:15; 14:45<br />

kavea galeria<br />

12:30; 17:30; 22:15<br />

kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

12:00; 14:30; 19:45<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

12:00; 14:00; 19:30<br />

1 aSS dolari<br />

2.7470<br />

1 evro<br />

3.0643<br />

1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />

3.4997<br />

1 Sveicaruli franki<br />

2.7203<br />

100 rusuli rubli<br />

4.2559<br />

amindi<br />

samSabaTi<br />

oTxSabaTi<br />

xuTSabaTi<br />

paraskevi<br />

SabaTi<br />

kvira<br />

orSabaTi<br />

Tbilisi<br />

20-26 0<br />

19-28 0<br />

24-26 0<br />

22-29 0<br />

23-29 0<br />

22-28 0<br />

23-25 0<br />

quTaisi<br />

27-30 0<br />

21-24 0<br />

21-27 0<br />

27-30 0<br />

24-27 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

26-28 0<br />

baTumi<br />

24-25 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

26-29 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

20-22 0<br />

zugdidi<br />

28-30 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

25-27 0<br />

28-31 0<br />

23-26 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

25-27 0<br />

gori<br />

20-22 0<br />

17-20 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

20-23 0<br />

20-22 0<br />

18-20 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

Telavi<br />

21-23 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

25-28 0<br />

26-30 0<br />

27-30 0<br />

26-28 0<br />

25-26 0<br />

foTi<br />

25-27 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

25-28 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

22-23 0<br />

40<br />

saredaqcio kolegia<br />

yvela ufleba daculia;<br />

`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli<br />

masalebis nebismieri saxiT<br />

gamoyeneba da gavrceleba<br />

redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad<br />

akrZalulia!<br />

gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul<br />

masalebs aqvT sareklamo<br />

xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia<br />

SeiZleba ar daemTxves<br />

redaqciis Sexedulebas.<br />

mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12)<br />

rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />

SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50<br />

mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55<br />

injgia nene 591 71 39 98<br />

sakaruli giorgi 555 42 42 90<br />

qemokliZe levan 593 16 01 40<br />

vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89<br />

laRaZe Sorena 557 56 23 66<br />

deviZe daviT<br />

stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />

redaqciis misamarTi:<br />

Tbilisi, gudauris N3,<br />

pirveli sarTuli, bina 4;<br />

tel.: 294 69 77;<br />

sareklamo ganyofileba,<br />

gavrcelebis samsaxuri<br />

Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10<br />

gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~<br />

ISSN 2346-8025<br />

294 69 77;<br />

qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

40 N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.

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