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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
amerikelebisa<br />
da ivaniSvilis<br />
faruli<br />
molaparakebebi<br />
gv. 4<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05<br />
05.201<br />
.2019 fasi 2 lari<br />
gv. 6<br />
skandaluri<br />
finansuri<br />
piramida da<br />
`evrokreditis~<br />
saqme<br />
miTebi ruseTis mier<br />
strategiuli obieqtebis<br />
dapatronebaze<br />
uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
araformaluri gavlenebi<br />
gv. 2<br />
gv. 16<br />
`organoebSi<br />
momuSaveebisgan<br />
xma gamovida,<br />
rom gogaSvili<br />
`kriSavda~<br />
`pijakebis<br />
saqmis~ morigi<br />
procesi<br />
gv. 7<br />
ratom ar<br />
miiwvies<br />
saqarTvelo<br />
ankaris<br />
Sexvedraze?<br />
Svilmokluli dedis werili<br />
gv. 22<br />
gv. 10<br />
zaal<br />
samadaSvili:<br />
`ocnebis~<br />
arsenalSi<br />
Zaladobis meti<br />
iaraRi ar aris!~<br />
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gv. 8<br />
nino burjanaZe:<br />
`dResve rom<br />
migviRon<br />
evrokavSirSi,<br />
orive xeliT<br />
mivesalmebi~<br />
gv. 20<br />
nika CitaZe:<br />
`xelisufleba<br />
arCevnebis<br />
mosagebad<br />
yvelafers<br />
kadrulobda~<br />
1
eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
gasul kviras, politikuri or-<br />
omtrialisa da arCevnebis fonze, erTi mniSvnelovani ambavi<br />
mediisa da sazogadoebis yuradRebis miRma darCa. Cveni qvey-<br />
nisTvis strategiulad mniSvnelovan _ yarsi-axalqalaqis<br />
rkinigzis proeqtis Sesaxeb ankaraSi erTmaneTs Sexvdnen az-<br />
erbaijanis, TurqeTisa da ruseTis transportis ministrebi<br />
da urTierTgagebis memorandums moaweres xeli. Sexvedraze<br />
qarTuli mxare miwveuli ar yofila.<br />
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baqo-Tbilisi-yarsi novorosiiskis<br />
rkinigzis alternatiuli<br />
marSrutia da mas, ekonomikurTan<br />
erTad, Cveni qveynis-<br />
Tvis didi politikuri datvirTva<br />
aqvs. SeTanxmebas 2007<br />
wels moewera xeli. proeqtSi<br />
saqarTvelo marabda-karwaxis<br />
monakveTiT aris warmodgenili.<br />
ra xdeba marabda-karwaxis<br />
rkinigzis monakveTze?<br />
masalebi, romelsac axla<br />
gTavazobT, ramdenime Tvis win<br />
mogvawoda konfidencialurma<br />
wyarom, magram imdenad daZabuli<br />
politikuri da ekonomikuri<br />
movlenebi mihyva erTmaneTs, am<br />
dromde misi gasajaroeba ver<br />
movaxerxeT.<br />
marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis<br />
monakveTis sigrZe 182 kilometria,<br />
igi marabdaSi iwyeba da bolo<br />
wertili axalqalaqia. rkinigzis<br />
am monakveTis reabilitacia,<br />
rekonstruqcia da mSenebloba<br />
650 milioni dolari jdeba.<br />
marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis<br />
sarkinigzo monakveTis teqnikuri<br />
simZlavre, davalebis Tanaxmad,<br />
sawyis etapze ganisazRvra<br />
5 milioni tona tvirTis<br />
gatarebaze weliwadSi. imis ga-<br />
TvaliswinebiT, rom zRvis donidan<br />
1400-2183 metr simaRleze<br />
gamavali sarkinigzo monakveTi,<br />
romelic miekuTvneba samTo<br />
rkinigzas, xasiTdeba rTuli sainJinro<br />
topografiuli geologiuri<br />
da mkacri klimaturi<br />
pirobebiT (35% qanobebia), obieqtis<br />
eqsploataciaSi gadacemis<br />
Semdgom gansakuTrebuli<br />
yuradReba unda daeTmos matarebelTa<br />
moZraobis usafrTxoebas.<br />
specialistebis azriT,<br />
garemo pirobebis zemoqmedebis<br />
aRmofxvris mizniT proeqtiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebulia ramdenime<br />
mimarTuleba, magram, specialistebis<br />
azriT, es sakmarisi ar<br />
aris da srulad ver gamoricxavs<br />
mosalodnel SesaZlo safr-<br />
Txeebs.<br />
ufro konkretulad:<br />
TrialeTisa da walkis sarkinigzo<br />
sadgurebSi ar aris gansazRvruli<br />
damWeri bazebis<br />
mowyoba, romelTa arqonac pirdapir<br />
safrTxes uqmnis matareblebis<br />
usafrTxo moZraobas<br />
da xazis gamtarobas. gaWianurebuli<br />
daRmarTebis pirobebSi<br />
ubnis sadgurebSi SeuZlebelia<br />
Semxvedri matareblebis erTdrouli<br />
miReba, rac pirdapir<br />
kavSirSia ubnis gamtarobis SemcirebasTan<br />
35%-mde, anu 5 milioni<br />
tonis nacvlad wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
SesaZlebeli iqneba<br />
mxolod 3,4 milion tonamde<br />
tvirTis gadazidva.<br />
winwyaros, WivWavis, nadarbazevis,<br />
walkisa da TrialeTis<br />
sarkinigzo sadgurebSi unda<br />
gakeTdes kenti saisro yeli.<br />
proeqtSi gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
ar aris agreTve e. w. moxsnis<br />
koeficientebi, rogorciaa matuCa<br />
mamacaSvilis<br />
arebelTa mosvlis uTanabroba,<br />
carieli vagonnakadebi, klimaturi<br />
pirobebi da sxv.<br />
proeqtis ganxilvis dros<br />
ukrainaSi damproeqtebelma<br />
proeqtirebis dros daSvebuli<br />
teqnikuri xarvezebi aRiara da<br />
miRweul iqna SeTanxmeba, rom<br />
damatebiT unda Seiswavlon<br />
proeqtis teqnikuri parametrebi.<br />
magram, sabolood, rekonstruqcia<br />
ise gagrZelda, am<br />
Temas aravin dabrunebia.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom Sps<br />
„marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis”<br />
sarkinigzo monakveTis reabilitacia-rekonstruqcia<br />
da mSenebloba<br />
dasrulebulia, igi ar<br />
aris eqspluataciaSi Sesuli da<br />
saqarTvelos rkinigzas balansze<br />
ayvanili ar aqvs. azerbaijanis<br />
respublikidan TurqeTis<br />
respublikis mimarTulebiT konteinerebiT<br />
datvirTuli matarebeli<br />
dRegamoSvebiT gadahyavT<br />
Ramis saaTebSi. dauzustebeli<br />
informaciiT, es kontrabanduli<br />
tvirTebia. zemoaRniSnul<br />
sarkinigzo monakveTze satvirTo<br />
matareblis gadayvanis<br />
momsaxurebis dafinansebaze pasuxismgebelia<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
rkinigzis komerciuli samsaxuris<br />
Svilobili kompania. rogorc<br />
„qronika+~-isTvis gaxda<br />
cnobili, kompaniis direqtori<br />
piradi gancxadebis safuZvelze<br />
gaaTavisufles dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan.<br />
ucnobia, vin afinansebs<br />
am kompanias, ucnobia<br />
aseve tvirTebis mepatronisa da<br />
gadamzidavi firmis saxelwodeba.<br />
dauzustebeli informaciiT,<br />
kompaniebi ekuTvnis saqarTvelosa<br />
da azerbaijanis moqalaqeebs.<br />
Sps „saqarTvelos rkinigzis”<br />
xelmZRvaneloba satvirTo matareblis<br />
usafrTxo moZraobis<br />
uzrunvelyofis pasuxismgeblobas<br />
iRebs mxolod sadgur cxramuxamde,<br />
xolo sadgur axalqalaqamde<br />
usafrTxo moZraobis<br />
pasuxismgeblobas iRebs daxuruli<br />
saaqcio sazogadoeba. azerbaijanis<br />
rkinigzis saqarTvelos<br />
filialis direqtori gaxlavT<br />
adaliaT bagirovi, misi<br />
moadgilea jamil gasimovi.<br />
sadgur axalqalaqSi tvirTebis<br />
miReba da gaSveba TurqeTis<br />
mimarTulebiT davalebuli aqvs<br />
saaqcio sazogadoeba azerbaijanis<br />
rkinigzis saqarTvelos<br />
filialis direqtoris warmomadgenel<br />
giorgi badalaSvils.<br />
imis gamo, rom TurqeTis respublikis<br />
sadgur yarsidan saqarTvelos<br />
respublikis rkinigzis<br />
sadgur axalqalaqamde dagebulia<br />
rkinigzis viwro liandagi<br />
evropuli standartebiT,<br />
sadac liandagis sigane aris<br />
1435 mm, xolo danarCen saqarTveloSi<br />
liandagi dagebulia sabWoTa<br />
standartebiT, anu liandagis<br />
sigane aris 1520 mm, amitom<br />
rkinigzis sadgur axalqal-<br />
`ratom ar miiwvies<br />
saqarTvelo ankaris<br />
Sexvedraze?<br />
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aqSi xdeba gorgolaWebis gamocvla.<br />
TurqeTis rkinigzis xelmZRvanels<br />
nebismier dros<br />
SeuZlia matareblis Semoyvana<br />
daukiTxavad, SekiTxva gvaqvs<br />
damproeqtebel Tornike kupataZesTan,<br />
_ visi davalebiT<br />
daaproeqta liandagi evropuli<br />
standartiT saqarTvelos teritoriaze<br />
axalqalaqidan yarsamde?<br />
da ratom aris teqnikuri<br />
Seusabamoba rkinigzis sxva<br />
monakveTTan?<br />
marabda-axalqalaqi-karwaxis<br />
sarkinigzo monakveTze, romlis<br />
teqnikuri simZlavre davalebis<br />
mixedviT, sawyis etapze, ganisazRvra<br />
5 milioni tona tvir-<br />
Tis gatarebaze weliwadSi, axali<br />
gaangariSebiT wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
mxolod 3,4 milioni<br />
tona tvirTis gatarebaa Sesa-<br />
Zlebeli. sainteresoa, vin gaayalba<br />
damtkicebuli proeqtis<br />
saeqsperto daskvna? yvela gza<br />
teqnikur universitetSi midis.<br />
swored aRniSnuli sakiTxebis<br />
Sesaswavlad iyo mivlinebuli<br />
ukrainaSi ufrosi specialisti<br />
guram kaJaSvili, magram saboloo<br />
Sedegi rac miviReT, am cifrebidanac<br />
Cans.<br />
marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis<br />
direqtori oleg biWiaSvili<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvilis kadri da<br />
misi axlo megobaria, aseve aris<br />
deputat irakli tripolskis<br />
axlobelic. miuxedavad amisa,<br />
2017 wlis agvistoSi biWiaSvili<br />
Tanamdebobidan gadaayenes. pirveli<br />
mizezi is iyo, rom biWia-<br />
Svils kvirikaSvilTan megobroba<br />
ar apaties. meore mizezi finansebs<br />
ukavSirdeba _ azerbaijanuli<br />
kompaniebi, romlebic<br />
marabda-karwaxis rkinigzis sareabilitacio<br />
samuSaoebs awarmoebdnen<br />
(kerZod, Sps „demiriodservisi”,<br />
Sps „azersaaTservisi”<br />
da ss „azeriorservisi”),<br />
saqarTvelos filialis direqtori<br />
alaliaT bagirovi winaswar<br />
iTxovda Seusrulebeli samuSaos<br />
avanss, romelic 3 milion<br />
dolars Seadgens, uariT<br />
gaistumra, amitom azerbaijanuli<br />
mxaris moTxovnis Semdeg,<br />
uCa mamacaSvilis davalebiT, bi-<br />
WiaSvili Tanamdebobidan gadaayenes.<br />
biWiaSvili levan kankavam<br />
Secvala, romelic manamde<br />
biWiaSvilis pirveli moadgile<br />
iyo. „qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
kankavas korufciuli<br />
garigebebi dalagebuli<br />
hqonda azerbaijanul mxares-<br />
Tan, kerZod ismail salikovTan.<br />
baTumSi, Tbilissa da gudaur-<br />
Si maT erTad SeiZines sastumroebi<br />
da restornebi („qronika+”<br />
agrZelebs am faqtebis mo-<br />
Ziebas).<br />
„qronika+~-s konfidencialurma<br />
wyarom marabda-karwaxis<br />
araformaluri gavlenebi<br />
TanamSromelTa samsaxurebrivi<br />
telefonebis cnobari miawoda.<br />
cnobarSi araerTi saintereso<br />
gvari SegxvdebaT.<br />
rogorc irkveva, direqtoris<br />
mrCevlis postze dasaqmebulia<br />
rkinigzis yofili Sefi<br />
remi vaSakiZe; direqtoris mrCevelia<br />
odeeri mamuka gelaSvili;<br />
sameTvalyureo sabWos Tavmjdomare<br />
„qarTus” yofili xelmZRvaneli<br />
da ivaniSvilis mier<br />
vano merabiSvilis agentad<br />
gamocxadebuli giorgi Crdilelia;<br />
sameTvalyureo sabWos<br />
wevria daviT saganeliZis Zma<br />
gia saganeliZe; garemos dacvis<br />
koordinatori, cixis yofili<br />
zonderi giorgi CxikvaZea (sainteresoa,<br />
icis Tu ara misi arseboba<br />
daCi caguriam?); sazogadoebasTan<br />
urTierTobis samsaxuris<br />
specialistad armaz<br />
sanebliZe hyavT gaformebuli.<br />
rogorc Cans, marabda-karwaxis<br />
rkinigza uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
naTesavebisa da nacnob-megobrebis<br />
dasaqmebis biuro ufroa,<br />
vidre qveynisTvis strategiuli<br />
da saerTaSoriso proeqti.<br />
uCa mamacaSvilis dasaqmebuli<br />
axloblebis arasruli sia<br />
ase gamoiyureba:<br />
malxaz maWaraSvili _ monitoringis<br />
jgufis wevri, biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis deidaSvili;<br />
nodar SovnaZe _ mSeneblobis<br />
sammarTvelos specialisti, bi-<br />
Zina ivaniSvilis kurseli;<br />
SoTa guliaSvili _ uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
naTluli (specialisti<br />
elmomaragebis sammarTveloSi);<br />
SoTa guliaSvilis mama _<br />
WiaTuris raionis sof. kacxSi<br />
mamacaSvilis mamulis zedamxedveli,<br />
daraji da momvlelia;<br />
avTandil xizaniSvili _<br />
mZRoli, qvemo qarTlis gubernatoris<br />
Zma, amJamad misi Zma<br />
saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />
samsaxuris ufrosis moadgilea;<br />
vladimer xatulaSvili _<br />
monitoringis samsaxuris wevri,<br />
yazbegis raionis yofil deputat<br />
marsagiSvilis siZe;<br />
giorgi CxikvaZe _ garemos<br />
dacvis koordinatori, yofili<br />
zonderi, rusTavis meeqvse sapyrobilis<br />
yofili TanamSromeli,<br />
samsaxurSi iSviaTad dadis,<br />
ZiriTadad, ucxoeTidan gasayidi<br />
avtomanqanebis Camoyvanaze<br />
muSaobs;<br />
giorgi leJava _ monitoringis<br />
jgufis wevri, marabdakarwaxis<br />
rkinigzis direqtor<br />
levan kankavas deidaSvili, iRebs<br />
mxolod xelfass, samsaxur-<br />
Si dadis dRegamoSvebiT, agvarebs<br />
korufciul sakiTxebs,<br />
aSantaJebs TanamSromlebs;<br />
aleqsandre wivwivaZe _ iuridiuli<br />
samsaxuris ufrosi,<br />
kankavas axlobeli;<br />
goCa CageliSvili _ safinanso<br />
ekonomikuri departamentis<br />
ufrosi, kankavas axlobeli;<br />
badri gunia _ Sesyidvebis<br />
ufrosi, kankavas axlobeli;<br />
biZina gujabiZe _ direqtoris<br />
mrCeveli, samsaxurSi, faqtobrivad,<br />
ar dadis, xelfass,<br />
realurad, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
koordinatorobisTvis iRebs.<br />
es im korufciuli sqemebisa<br />
da nepotizmis mxolod nawilia,<br />
rac xdeba didi strategiuli<br />
proeqtis _ yarsi-axalqalaqis<br />
rkinigzis erT monakveTze _<br />
marabda-karwaxSi. amis mere gasakviri<br />
sulac araa, rom azerbaijanuli<br />
da Turquli mxare<br />
qarTul mxares ankaraSi Sexvedraze<br />
saerTod ar iwvevs.<br />
„qronika+~-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
am monakveTze, Ziri-<br />
Tadad, kontrabanduli tvirTi<br />
moZraobs, romelsac saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifo organoebi saerTod<br />
ar akontroleben. Cveni<br />
wyaro gvpirdeba, rom faqtis<br />
damadasturebel videomasalas<br />
uaxloes momavalSi mogvawvdis.<br />
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amerikelebisa da ivaniSvilis<br />
90-iani wlebidan moyolebuli<br />
giorgi abaSiZe<br />
qarTuli politikis aqilevsis qus-<br />
li marTlmsajulebaa, anu lamis 30<br />
welia, adamianebs usamarTlobis gancda aqvT da ician, rom<br />
saqarTveloSi samarTali purs ver Wams. amitomac yvela poli-<br />
tikuri Zala eleqtoratis gulis mogebas am TemiT cdilobs<br />
da xalxs hpirdeba, rom Tu xelisuflebaSi mova, samarTlian<br />
sasamarTlos Seqmnis. ase iyo maSin, roca „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />
„vardebis revolucias” awyobda. igive narativiT moqmedeb-<br />
da „qarTuli ocneba” 2012 wlis saarCevno kampaniis dros, Tumca<br />
es dapireba dapirebad darCa. metic, „ocnebis” CamoSlis sababi<br />
usamarTlo marTlmsajuleba, e. i., is sistema gaxda, romlis<br />
erT-erT mTavar Semqmneladac giga bokeria miiCneva.<br />
iuristi da politikosi vale-<br />
ri gelbaxiani „qronika+”-Tan im<br />
ambebs eqskluziurad ixsenebs, Tu<br />
rogor moipova giga bokeriam sas-<br />
amarTlo korpusze gavlena da<br />
rogor moargo kanonebi Tavis<br />
politikur gegmebs.<br />
amave interviuSi batoni vale-<br />
ri dRevandel procesebsac exeba<br />
da erT ritorikul kiTxvas svams,<br />
anu ainteresebs, Sedga Tu ara<br />
„ocnebasTan” politikuri garigeba,<br />
rogor moxda, rom giga boke-<br />
ria, romelic 2013 wels „ocnebam”<br />
uSiSroebis sabWodan 40 milionis<br />
gaflangvaSi amxila, pasuxismge-<br />
blobis gareSe darCa?<br />
maS, ase: „qronika+” yofili<br />
deputatis skandalur monaTxrobs<br />
warmogidgenT da winamde-<br />
bare interviudan imis Sesaxebac<br />
SeityobT, Tu ra ultimatums<br />
uyenebs ivaniSvili amerikelebs:<br />
_ batono valeri, gadaWarbe-<br />
buli ar iqneba, Tu vityvi, rom<br />
wlevandeli gazafxuli poli-<br />
tikurad zomaze cxeli aRmoCnda.<br />
_ mxedvelobaSi Sualeduri<br />
arCevnebi gaqvT?<br />
_ diax. amasTan, am dReebSi<br />
„rusTavi 2-is” dakveTiT, kompania<br />
„ipsosis” mier Catarebuli kvlevis<br />
Sedegebic gasajarovda, rom-<br />
lis Tanaxmadac, im brZen kacs,<br />
Turme, mosaxloebis Warbi ndoba<br />
aRar aqvs. amave kvleviT, mosaxle-<br />
obis absoluturi umravlesoba<br />
imedovnebs, rom 2020 wlis sapar-<br />
lamento arCevnebSi opozicia<br />
gaimarjvebs. yvelaferi es poli-<br />
tikur temperaturas xom maRla<br />
swevs?<br />
_ „qarTulma ocnebam” es kvleva<br />
marCielobad Seafasa, Tumca, Tavis<br />
droze, roca saubari sasamarTlos<br />
reitingze iyo, organizacias,<br />
romelmac es kvleva Caatara, biZina<br />
ivaniSvili endoboda. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
maSin Tqva, es franguli<br />
kompania msoflios sameulSi Sedis<br />
da mas vendobio. mokled, maSin dasWirda<br />
da am kompanias ndoba gamoucxada,<br />
magram radgan axla kvlevis<br />
Sedegebi ar moewonaT, ivaniSvilis<br />
Tanagundelebi amboben, ra<br />
kvleva, yvelaferi mogoniliao.<br />
_ es metyvelebs, rom „ocneba”<br />
politikur agoniaSia Tu komaSi?<br />
_ erTaderTi, rac „ocnebas”<br />
darCa, es Zalaa. sxva resursi mas<br />
ar gaaCnia. amitom dRes opoziciis<br />
winaaRmdeg „qarTuli ocneba”, rogorc<br />
politikuri partia ki ara,<br />
rogorc saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
gamodis Tavisi yvela struqturiT.<br />
es Zalian saSiSi niSnis matarebeli<br />
movlenaa.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ es samoqalaqo dapirispirebis<br />
niSnebs atarebs, radgan politikur<br />
procesebSi politikuri sub-<br />
ieqtebi ki ara, xelisufleba monawileobs.<br />
aviRoT, magaliTad, zugdidis<br />
meris Sualeduri arCevnebi<br />
_ iq sussa da Sss-s ra undodaT?<br />
ai, es aris niSani, rom Sualedur<br />
arCevnebSi „qarTuli ocneba” ki<br />
ara, rogorc giTxariT, xelisufleba<br />
monawileobda!<br />
_ Sesabamisad, 19 maisi Semdeg<br />
politikur procesebs gan-<br />
sazRvravs, ara?<br />
_ ai, naxeT, ra xdeba: mec, rogorc<br />
moqalaqe, vfiqrob, rom roca<br />
xelisufleba gebrZvis da ara _<br />
mmarTveli partia politikuri<br />
wesebiTa da konkurenciiT, am<br />
dros kanoni ki ara, ukve Zaladoba<br />
batonobs. Sesabamisad, aseT dros<br />
saarCevno procedurebis adgili<br />
aRar aris.<br />
urcxvad gamodian da amboben,<br />
aba, kanonis darRveva sad naxeTo.<br />
arada, arsebobs euTos daskvna.<br />
amas garda, kvlevebic arsebobs,<br />
magram „ocneba” yvelafers ignorirebas<br />
ukeTebs, me var da Cemi nabadi,<br />
rogorc minda, ise moviqcevi<br />
da rasac minda, imas davwer, Tqven<br />
vin gekiTxebaTo. es samoqalaqo sazogadoeba<br />
ar aris da aq demokratiul<br />
niSnebze saubaric ukve<br />
Zalian zedmetia!<br />
samwuxaroa, rom yvelaferi es<br />
Cven Tvalwin xdeba da isic samwuxaroa,<br />
rom xelisufleba urcxvad<br />
ityueba, urcxvad saxeSi gvafur-<br />
Txebs da kamerebis winac urcxvad<br />
keklucobs. sinamdvileSi ki saziz-<br />
Rar kanondarRvevebs udebs saTaves.<br />
warmoidgineT, Jurnalists<br />
Tavs daesxnen, scemes da pasuxisgebaSi<br />
isev Jurnalisti misces. amaze<br />
meti marazmi raRa SeiZleba iyos?<br />
_ „odiSis” JurnalistisTvis<br />
bralis wayeneba, marTlac, moulod<br />
odneli iyo. ise, batono valeri,<br />
Tqveni ar vici, piradad me ki, am<br />
procesebis Semxedvares, „vardebis<br />
revoluciis” wina periodi maxsendeba<br />
_ SevardnaZis xelisu-<br />
flebasac, „ocnebis” msgavsad, ca<br />
qudad aRar miaCnda da dedamiwa<br />
_ qalamnad.<br />
_ „vardebis revolucia” SemTxveviTi<br />
revolucia iyo.<br />
_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />
_ maSin mosaxleoba amisTvis<br />
mzad ar iyo. axla ki sazogadoeba-<br />
Si ukve didi samzadisia, radgan xalxi<br />
xvdeba, rom kanoniT ramis gadawyveta<br />
ar SeiZleba da amitom Zala<br />
unda aCveno. xelisufleba moedanze<br />
gepatiJeba, modi Senc da Zalebi<br />
movsinjoTo. imis nacvlad,<br />
rom politikuri stabilurobisTvis<br />
yvela pirobas qmnides, xelisufleba<br />
dapirispirebaSi giTrevs da<br />
ginda Tu ara, am dapirispirebaSi<br />
aRmoCndebi!<br />
_ batoni valeri, weRan sasamarTlo<br />
axseneT. marto dRevan-<br />
deli ki ara, yofili xelisu-<br />
flebisTvisac aqilevsis qusli<br />
swored sasamarTlo sistema iyo.<br />
Tu ar vcdebi, Tavis droze mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma sasamarTlos re-<br />
formireba Tqven dagavalaT Tu<br />
gTxovaT, Tumca Semdeg am procesSi<br />
giga bokeria Caeria da yve-<br />
laferi Tavdayira dadga. ase iyo?<br />
_ diax, ase iyo _ SeTanxmebulebi<br />
viyaviT, rom es reforma me unda<br />
gamekeTebina, magram bokeriam yvelaferi<br />
CaSala. Cvens Soris konfliqti<br />
moxda da amis gamo erTmaneTs<br />
davcildiT.<br />
_ modiT, yvelafer amaze ufro<br />
detalurad gviambeT<br />
_ es ambebi 2005 wels xdeboda.<br />
maSin ori reformis inicireba gavakeTe.<br />
erTi e. w. politikur-konstituciuri<br />
reforma iyo, romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac, saqarTvelos parlamenti<br />
orpalatiani unda gamxdariyo.<br />
amisTvis viTxovdi, rom orpalatiani<br />
parlamentis Seqmnis Taobaze<br />
konstituciuri kanoni migve-<br />
Ro, anu qveda palata proporciuli<br />
wesiT arCeuliyo, senati ki _<br />
valeri gelbaxiani<br />
`ocneba~ yvelafers<br />
ignorirebas<br />
ukeTebs, me var da<br />
Cemi nabadi,<br />
rogorc minda, ise<br />
moviqcevi da rasac<br />
minda, imas davwer,<br />
Tqven vin<br />
gekiTxebaTo~<br />
maJoritaruli. amiT im demokratiuli<br />
wonasworobis balansi Seiqmneboda,<br />
rasac igive evropuli qveynebi<br />
kargad da efeqtianad axorcieleben.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, yvelafer amaSi<br />
saakaSvili meTanxmeboda.<br />
_ yvelafer amaze miSasTn<br />
saubari erTi-erTze gqondaT Tu<br />
kanonproeqti dawereT da gansaxilvelad<br />
parlaments warudgi-<br />
neT?<br />
_ saakaSvili parlamentis sxdomaze<br />
gamovida da am reformis<br />
ganxorcieleba oficialurad damavala,<br />
proeqti daCqarebul vadeb-<br />
Si warmoadgineTo.<br />
_ am dros saakaSvili ukve<br />
prezidenti iyo?<br />
_ diax, oficialurad damavala,<br />
rom kanonproeqti damewera. davwere,<br />
ra Tqma unda, yvela deputats<br />
xeli movawerine _ amis Sesaxeb gancxadeba<br />
saakaSvils hqonda gakeTebuli<br />
da uars vin ityoda? deputatebisgan<br />
xelmowerili es kanonproeqti<br />
prezidents warvudgine,<br />
raTa parlamentSi misi iniciativ-<br />
`sasamarTlos bokeria marTavda! man is<br />
adamianebi CamogviSora, romlebic<br />
vcdilobdiT, reforma imisTvis<br />
ganxorcielebuliyo, raTa samarTals puri<br />
eWama da samarTalSi politika ar Careuliyo.<br />
Cven gvindoda, rom mosamarTleebis Zalian<br />
obieqturi korpusi SegverCia~<br />
iT Semosuliyo da ganxilva daCqarebuli<br />
wesiT momxdariyo. samwuxarod,<br />
am proeqtma daiZina.<br />
_ ras niSnavs, „daiZina”?<br />
_ saakaSvilma parlamentSi ar<br />
Semoitana.<br />
_ ar dainteresdiT, saakaSvilma<br />
Tqven mier dawerili kanon-<br />
proeqti parlamentSi ratom ar<br />
Semoitana?<br />
_ cxadia, mivakiTxe da vkiTxe<br />
parlamentis sxdomaze, romelsac<br />
diplomatiuri korpusisa da mTavrobis<br />
wevrebi eswrebodnen, _ damavaleT,<br />
rom es kanonproeqti damewera<br />
da ra xdeba-meTqi?<br />
_ ra gipasuxaT?<br />
_ avtonomiebTan mimarTebiT<br />
sxva gegmebi maqvs da, ubralod,<br />
minda, vadebi gadavwio, anu es<br />
reforma amis Semdeg daviwyoTo. me<br />
ra vicodi, rom mis gegmaSi omi<br />
Sedioda?<br />
_ am dros e. w. aWaris revolu-<br />
cia jer ar iyo momxdari?<br />
_ ki, momxdari iyo. saakaSvils<br />
mxedvelobaSi afxazeTi da samaCablo<br />
hqonda.<br />
_ imxanad giga bokeria depu-<br />
tati iyo, ara?<br />
_ bokeria saparlamento umravlesobis<br />
Tavmjdomare iyo da<br />
saakaSvilis saxeliT parlaments<br />
marTavda! aWaris deputatTa korpusis<br />
gauqmebis Taobaze proeqti<br />
rom Semoitanes, Cemsa da bokerias<br />
Soris pirveli Sejaxeba maSin moxda,<br />
anu sxdomaze sajarod vkiTxe,<br />
am gauqmebiT seriozul uaryofiT<br />
Sedegs miviRebT da politikur pasuxismgeblobas<br />
iReb Tu ara-meTqi?<br />
_ pasuxismgeblobas ki viReb,<br />
magram Sen visi saxeliT gvelaparakebio?<br />
_ CamekiTxa da dasZina, _<br />
me saqarTvelos prezidentis saxeliT<br />
vsaubrobo.<br />
amis Semdeg saakaSvilTan mivedi<br />
da davinteresdi, _ bokeria<br />
gancxadebebs Seni saxeliT akeTebs<br />
da es simarTles ramdenad Seesabameba-meTqi?<br />
saakaSvilma mipasuxa,<br />
_ proeqti bokeriasia, magram veTanxmebi,<br />
radgan afxazeTis deputacia<br />
Zveli da dromoWmuli korpusia.<br />
afxazeTidan axali korpusi<br />
imis mixedviT unda iqnes arCeuli,<br />
rasac Sen fiqrobo. davTanxmdi,<br />
radgan saubari grZelvadian proe-<br />
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faruli molaparakebebi<br />
qtsa da orpalatian parlamentzea,<br />
met winaaRmdegobas aRar gavwev-meTqi,<br />
magram yvelafer amis piroba<br />
is iyo, rom parlamentis meore<br />
palatis Seqmnis Taobaze konstituciuri<br />
kanoni unda yofiliyo<br />
miRebuli, Tumca, ra Tqma unda,<br />
motyuebuli aRmovCndi.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, minda, icodeT,<br />
rom amis gamo mixeil saakaSvilma<br />
bodiSi momixada da miTxra, am periodSi<br />
ar moxerxda, magram amis<br />
gakeTeba garkveuli drois Semdeg<br />
aucilebeliao.<br />
saakaSvilma bodiSi meored mas<br />
Semdeg momixada, rac Cems, gvaramiasa<br />
da bokerias Soris sasamarTlo<br />
reformaze Zalian didi skandali<br />
moxda _ parlamentis sxdomaze<br />
moviTxove, rom marTlmsajulebis<br />
sistemaSi fragmentuli ki ara,<br />
konceptualuri cvlilebebi Sesuliyo.<br />
amasTan, unda mogvesmina,<br />
marTlmsajulebis ra koncefcia<br />
arsebobda da sad ra cvlileba gatardeboda.<br />
Cems am moTxovnas parlamentis<br />
maSindelma Tavmjdomarem<br />
mxari dauWira da mosmenac dani-<br />
Sna. mosmena parlamentis e. w. mcire<br />
darbazSi unda Catarebuliyo, magram<br />
imis nacvlad, rom zemoxsenebuli<br />
sakiTxebi yofiliyo ganxiluli,<br />
bokeria da gvaramia pirdapir<br />
Tavs damesxnen, _ Sen ra ufleba<br />
gaqvs, yofili „aRorZinebis” wevri<br />
rogor bedav, rom sasamarTlo reformaze<br />
xmas iReb, sasamarTlo<br />
maSin ar gaxsovda, roca abaSiZe iyoo?!<br />
erTi sityviT, saqme iqamde miiyvanes,<br />
rom wonasworoba orive<br />
mxarem davkargeT da erTmaneTis<br />
ginebaze gadavediT. amitom, es mosmena<br />
CaiSala. darbazi davtove da<br />
wamovedi.<br />
amis Semdeg saakaSvilma damibara<br />
da imis gamo, rac moxda, bodi-<br />
Si momixada, es Cemgan namdvilad ar<br />
modioda, aq bokeriac myavda, gvaramiac,<br />
orive davtuqse, SenTanac<br />
movlen, bodiSs mogixdian, es bodiSi<br />
miiRe da es konfliqti amiT<br />
amovwuroTo.<br />
_ bokeriam da gvaramiam bodi-<br />
Si mogixades?<br />
_ diax, bodiSi orivem calcalke<br />
momixada, magram reforma<br />
mainc maT gaagrZeles da, saboloo<br />
jamSi, roca saakaSvilTan sakiTxi<br />
davsvi, arCevani gaakeTe-meTqi, man<br />
miTxra, arCevani gakeTebuli maqvs,<br />
es Cemi gundia da vendobio. Tu<br />
asea, maSin kargad iyaviT-meTqi,<br />
vuTxari da wamovedi.<br />
_ am dros, batono valeri,<br />
Tqven saCxeris maJoritari iyav-<br />
iT, ara?<br />
_ diax, saCxeris damoukidebeli<br />
maJoritari viyavi. am tipis maJoritarebs<br />
oTxkaciani fraqcia gvqonda<br />
da am fraqciis Tavmjdomaris<br />
moadgile gaxldiT da swored am<br />
statusiT vsaubrobdi.<br />
_ batono valeri, mas Semdeg<br />
amdeni weli gavida da, rogor<br />
fiqrobT, bokerias mxridan sasa-<br />
marTlos Tqveneuli reformis<br />
Cagdeba ras emsaxureboda? is<br />
sasamarTloze sakuTari gavlenis<br />
damyarebas cdilobda?<br />
_ diax, sasamarTlos bokeria<br />
marTavda! man is adamianebi CamogviSora,<br />
romlebic vcdilobdiT,<br />
reforma imisTvis ganxorcielebuliyo,<br />
raTa samarTals puri eWama<br />
da samarTalSi politika ar Careuliyo.<br />
Cven gvindoda, rom mosamarTleebis<br />
Zalian obieqturi ko-<br />
`sasamarTlos es korpusi mTlianad bokerias Seqmnilia, anu maSindel<br />
sasamarTloze kontroli bokerias hqonda aRebuli da ar mgonia, romelime<br />
mosamarTle dResac am kontrolis miRma iyos! winaaRmdeg SeTxvevaSi, albaT,<br />
im codvebs gauxseneben, romlis wyalobiTac isini mosamarTleebi gaxdnen!<br />
sxvaTa Soris, rogorc irkveva, Zalian bevr mosamarTles iuristis diplomi<br />
dRemde ar aqvs~<br />
rpusi SegverCia. sxvaTa Soris, mqonda<br />
winadadeba, rom mosamarTleebi<br />
xalxs aerCia _ ase sasamarTlos<br />
legitimaciis, xelSeuxeblobisa da<br />
daculobis maRali garantia eqneboda.<br />
amave dros, Cemi koncefciiT,<br />
marTlmsajuleba oTxdoniani unda<br />
yofiliyo, magram yvelaferi es<br />
bokerias politikur gegmebsa da<br />
gemovnebaSi ar jdeboda, anu Tu<br />
sasamarTlos kontrolqveS ver<br />
moaqcevdnen, maSin im politikas<br />
ver gaatarebdnen, rasac miiCnevdnen,<br />
rom marTali iyo. mere aRmoCnda,<br />
rom es politika mcdari iyo da<br />
axla amboben, Secdoma iyoo, magram<br />
Secdoma ki ara, is gegma, romli-<br />
Tac xelmZRvanelobdnen, winaswar<br />
hqondaT ganzraxuli.<br />
_ e. i., yvelaferi is, rac dRes<br />
sasamarTloSi da sasamarTlos ga-<br />
rSemo xdeba, garkveulwilad, giga<br />
bokerias kiserzea, batono val-<br />
eri?<br />
_ sasamarTlos es korpusi<br />
mTlianad bokerias Seqmnilia, anu<br />
maSindel sasamarTloze kontroli<br />
bokerias hqonda aRebuli da ar<br />
mgonia, romelime mosamarTle dResac<br />
am kontrolis miRma iyos! winaaRmdeg<br />
SeTxvevaSi, albaT, im codvebs<br />
gauxseneben, romlis wyalobi-<br />
Tac isini mosamarTleebi gaxdnen!<br />
sxvaTa Soris, rogorc irkveva,<br />
Zalian bevr mosamarTles iuristis<br />
diplomi dRemde ar aqvs.<br />
_ anu, dRes mosamarTleebi<br />
opozicioneri bokerias kontro-<br />
lis qveS arian?<br />
_ pirovnuli kontroli mainc<br />
darCenili iqneba. igive valeri<br />
cercvaZe, romelic iusticiis sabWos<br />
maSindeli mdivani iyo, Semdeg<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare<br />
gaxda, anu eg xom bokerias<br />
gamoCekili kadria?!<br />
_ rogorc maxsovs, bokeriasTan<br />
dapirispireba maSinac gqondaT,<br />
roca girgvlianis saqmis sasamarTloSi<br />
ganxilvis win ramden-<br />
ime kanoni Secvala.<br />
_ diax, ase iyo, jer komitetze<br />
gamovedi, mere _ parlamentis sxdomaze,<br />
radgan isini kodeqsebs<br />
imis gamo ki ar cvlidnen, rom vTqvaT,<br />
dros ver gauZles da saxelmwifos<br />
marTlmsajulebis politika<br />
liberaluri unda gamxdariyo,<br />
aramed maT kanonebis morgeba imaze<br />
daiwyes, vis unda Sexeboda da vis<br />
_ ara!<br />
magaliTad, maSin mama basili<br />
iyo daWerili da sakiTxi davsvi, _<br />
mama basilis mimarT konkretulad<br />
am muxls ratom amZimebT-meTqi?<br />
erTi ambavi atexes, _ Sen provokatori<br />
xaro.<br />
igive girgvlianis sakiTxze<br />
vTqvi, _ am muxls nu amsubuqebTmeTqi.<br />
mokled, yvelafers konkretuli<br />
datvirTva hqonda, anu es<br />
muxlebi konkretul pirebs amnistiis<br />
nacvlad unda SexebodaT.<br />
warmogidgeniaT, kanoni amnistiis<br />
rols asrulebda! amaze, ra Tqma<br />
unda, avumxedrdi, magram Cemi ver<br />
gavitane.<br />
metic, saproceso kodeqsi rom<br />
Secvales, proklamacia gavakeTe.<br />
manamde ki parlamentis Tavmjdomares<br />
moxsenebiTi baraTi davuwere,<br />
sadac veubnebodi, rom am kodeqsis<br />
miReba Secdoma ki ara, pirdapir<br />
qarTvel xalxze galaSqreba iqneboda.<br />
es moxsenebiTi baraTi 21 gverdze<br />
iyo dawerili. nino burjanaZem<br />
rom waikiTxa, damireka da miTxra,<br />
_ Tu yvelaferi, rac aq weria,<br />
marTalia, maSin Tanamdebobidan<br />
gadavdgebi da am kanons ar mivaRebinebo,<br />
magram amis Semdeg Sekrebaze<br />
dagviZaxa, kiTxva isev bokerias<br />
dausva, romelic ajanyda, viTom<br />
yvelafer amas me specialurad vakeTebdi.<br />
isic ki Tqva, amas, albaT,<br />
vinmem dauwerao. aseT Seuracxyofaze<br />
rom gadavida, viCxubeT da<br />
sxdoma CaiSala.<br />
bolos, es cvlilebebi parlamentis<br />
sxdomaze gaitanes da miiRes,<br />
Tumca sanam miiRebdnen,<br />
rogorc giTxariT, proklamacia<br />
davwere da deputatebs is safrTxe<br />
davanaxve, romelic am kanonis<br />
miRebiT iyo mosalodneli.<br />
„am kanons xma ar misceT, vinaidan<br />
es aqlemi, Tavis droze, Tqvens<br />
karTanac daiCoqebs!” _ am sityvebiT<br />
mTavrdeboda es proklamacia.<br />
_ sazogadoebas rom gavaxsenoT,<br />
saproceso kodeqsis bokeriaseuli<br />
cvlilebebi ras iTval-<br />
iswinebda?<br />
_ am kanoniT udanaSaulo adamianis<br />
daWera SeiZleboda.<br />
_ da yvelaferi es girgvlianis<br />
TemasTan ratom iyo kavSirSi?<br />
_ iq sandro girgvliani arsad<br />
ewera, anu cvlileba konkretul<br />
muxlebSi Sedioda: zogan sanqcia<br />
izrdeboda, zogan mcirdeboda.<br />
mivxvdi, sasjelis Semcirebas romel<br />
muxlebSi Sesatani cvlilebebi<br />
iTvaliswinebda, anu raRac sxva<br />
motivacia amoZravebdaT da winaa-<br />
Rmdeg gamovedi, yvelafer amas personaliebisTvis<br />
nu akeTebT. kanons<br />
erTaderTi daniSnuleba unda<br />
hqondes _ damnaSaveebTan brZola-<br />
Si samarTliani da efeqturi unda<br />
iyos, magram am cvlilebebidan samarTliani<br />
da efeqtiani romeliameTqi?<br />
mokled, girgvliani erT-erT<br />
muxlSi qvecnobierad igrZnoboda,<br />
Torem sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsi<br />
saerTod icvleboda da amis winaaRmdegi<br />
viyavi, Tumca es cvlilebebi<br />
mainc gatarda _ parlamentma<br />
mxari ar damiWira, miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom deputatebs mivmarTe da<br />
vTxove, es kanonis cvlileba nu<br />
ggoniaT, es manipulaciaa da valdebuli<br />
xarT, am manipulaciis<br />
winaaRmdeg Tqveni pozicia daafiqsiroT-meTqi.<br />
yuri aravin damigdo<br />
da marto davrCi.<br />
_ weRandel kiTxvas gavimeo-<br />
reb: batono valeri, sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi arsebul abrakadabraze<br />
pasuxismgebloba<br />
bokeriasac<br />
ekisreba, romelic dRes „evropu-<br />
li saqarTvelos” lideria, ara?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. saqarTveloSi<br />
maSindeli marTlmsajulebis reforma<br />
personalurad bokeriasTan<br />
aris mibmuli da dakavSirebuli!<br />
orive kanoni, romelic Seicvala,<br />
misi iniciativa iyo da sasamarTloebis<br />
kompleqtaciac bokerias kontroliT<br />
xdeboda! aba, meti raRa<br />
giTxraT?<br />
axla bokeriaze amboben, rom<br />
ucodveli kravia, ase ar aris!<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, politikur<br />
wreebSi arsebobs versia, rom bok-<br />
eria „ocnebasTan” TiTqos farul<br />
kavSirSia. amaze ra azris xarT?<br />
_ es kiTxva sajarod, jer kidev,<br />
2013 wels davsvi, anu erT-erTi<br />
gamosvlis dros biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
ganacxada, uSiSroebis sabWos 40<br />
milioni aqvs gaflangulio, magram<br />
bokerias garda yvela daiWires da<br />
maSin vikiTxe, _ ra xdeba, bokeria<br />
pasuxisgebaSi ratom ar mieca, roca<br />
gacxadda, rom 40 milioni aqvs<br />
gaflanguli-meTqi? am kiTxvas<br />
wauyrues da aravin mipasuxa. es ki<br />
imas niSnavda, rom bokeriaze ivaniSvilis<br />
garkveuli wyaloba gavrcelda.<br />
simarTle giTxraT, ar mesmis,<br />
bokerize ivaniSvilis wyaloba<br />
ratom unda gavrcelebuliyo, Tu<br />
politikuri garigeba ar moxda?<br />
_ yvelafer aqedan gamom-<br />
dinare, xom ar fiqrobT, rom<br />
ivaniSvili xelisuflebas swored<br />
bokerias politikur gunds gada-<br />
abarebs?<br />
_ me erTi ram vici: amerikelebi<br />
farul samuSaos asruleben, raTa<br />
ivaniSvili daarwmunon, rom misi<br />
xelisuflebaSi darCena SeuZlebelia<br />
da politikuri memkvidreobis<br />
Secvlaa saWiro, magram ivaniSvili<br />
sakiTxs ase ayenebs, _ Cemi wasvlis<br />
Semdeg, saakaSvili mobrundeba,<br />
rasac ar davuSvebo.<br />
_ amaze amerikelebi ivaniSvils<br />
ras pasuxoben?<br />
_ maTi pasuxia, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
angariSsworebebi ar iqneba,<br />
magram mTavari xalxia. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
ivaniSvili amerikelebs<br />
qveteqstiT eubneba, _ oRond saakaSvili<br />
ara da sxva nebismierio. es<br />
„sxva nebismieri” ki an „patriotTa<br />
aliansia”, an bokerias jgufi. amerikelebisTvis<br />
„patriotTa aliansi”<br />
miuRebelia da bokeriaRa rCeba.<br />
_ amerikelebisTvis, Tqveni informaciiT,<br />
saakaSvilic miuRebe-<br />
lia?<br />
_ saakaSvils, albaT, sxva funqcias<br />
mouZebnian.<br />
_ anu?<br />
_ SeiZleba, droebiT ukrainaSi<br />
Catovon.<br />
_ xelisuflebis bokeriasTvis<br />
gadabarebas sazogadoeba miiRebs?<br />
_ es arCevani sazogadoebam Tavad<br />
unda gaakeTos da Tu xalxi<br />
aseT arCevans gaakeTebs, ra unda<br />
vqnaT?<br />
_ arCevnebi gasagebia, magram<br />
xom viciT, rom arCevnebi marto<br />
xalxze ar aris damokidebuli.<br />
_ diax, magram Tu danarCenma<br />
opoziciurma speqtrma daiZina, es<br />
ase moxdeba, magram Tu gaaqtiurda,<br />
maSin procesebi sxvanairad ganviTardeba.<br />
ise, mgonia, rom an axali politikuri<br />
partiebi Seiqmneba, an partiebi<br />
raRac axal formatSi gaer-<br />
Tiandebian da axali mowodebebiT<br />
gamovlen. es qveyanas saSualebas<br />
miscems, rom politikuri procesebi<br />
ufro mobilizebuli gaxados!<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, vrceldeba in-<br />
formacia, rom ivaniSvili TiTqos<br />
vadamdel arCevnebze dasTanxmda<br />
da saparlamento arCevnebi 2020-<br />
Si ki ara, wels gaimarTeba<br />
_ vadamdeli saparlamento<br />
arCevnebi ivaniSvils awyobs da vis<br />
unda dasTanxmeboda? dRevandeli<br />
monacemebiT mTavari oponentebi<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” da „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” arian. amitom vadamdeli<br />
arCevnebiT „ocneba” xelisuflebaSi<br />
yofnas gaigrZelebs.<br />
ise, vadamdeli arCevnebi Sei-<br />
Zleba, „nacionalur moZraobasac”<br />
awyobs, magram es qarTvel xalxs ar<br />
awyobs!<br />
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Tengiz abloTia<br />
wina xelisuflebis mowinaaRmdegeTa erT-erTi argumenti<br />
yovelTvis iyo da dResac, 7 wlis Semdeg, rCeba saakaSvilis<br />
administraciis mier rusuli investorebis Semoyvana strate-<br />
giul dargebSi. es braldebebi ismis ukve mravali weli erTi<br />
da igive teqstiT: „rusebs mihyides mTeli ekonomika” an<br />
„ruseTs ekuTvnis yvela strategiuli dargi”.<br />
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leblad gamoiyenebs am berkets<br />
saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg da erTi<br />
xelis mosmiT qveyana dakargavs<br />
rus turistebsac da rusul bazarsac.<br />
es mocemuloba gacilebiT saSi-<br />
Sia, vidre „Telasi” rusebis xel-<br />
Si, Tumca amas aravin aqcevs yuradRebas.<br />
sinamdvileSi ki „mTeli ekonomika”<br />
an, Tundac, „yvela strate-<br />
avtorebi didi xania, televizorsac<br />
ki ar uyureben.<br />
aseve gaugebaria, ratom aCuqes<br />
igive „Ïðîìûøëåííûå èíâåñò-<br />
îðû”-s zestafonis feroSenadnob-<br />
Ta qarxana maSin, rodesac saakaSvilis<br />
periodSic ki es qarxana<br />
ekuTvnoda ukrainul „Ïðèâàò<br />
ãðóïï”-s, anu moskovis erT-erT<br />
yvelaze dauZinebel mters, oligarq<br />
igor kolomoiskis.<br />
amiT absurdis Teatri ar sruldeba<br />
_ mTavari saocrebebi jer<br />
kidev winaa.<br />
siaSi amoikiTxavT kompania „iteras”,<br />
romelic araTu ar flobs<br />
araviTar aqtivebs saqarTveloSi,<br />
aramed saerTod arc arsebobs _<br />
2013 wels mTeli misi qoneba „ros-<br />
da ar politikaSi da yazaxeTi yirgizeTTan<br />
erevaT. ar ician, rom<br />
yazaxeTi aris Zlieri da mdidari<br />
saxelmwifo, is ar TamaSobs aravis<br />
dakrulze da Tu rames aweria<br />
„yaz” _ es aris „yaz” da ara SeniRbuli<br />
„ru”.<br />
saocrebaTa Teatris kidev er-<br />
Ti personaJi _ Cexuri „energo<br />
pro”, romelic wlebis manZilze<br />
jiutad moixsenieba, rogorc rusuli.<br />
ratom, ra uflebiT da romeli<br />
logikiT kompania, romlis prezentaciazec,<br />
Tavis droze, iyo CexeTis<br />
ekonomikis ministri da romelsac<br />
aRebuli aqvs sesxi CexeTis<br />
impeqs-bankSi _ aris rusuli? aravin<br />
icis. albaT, esec saWiroa.<br />
strategiuli obieqtebis Camo-<br />
kompania _ es aris „Telasi”.<br />
Tumca aqac uzustobaa _ „Telasi”<br />
mieyida „raos” ara saakaSvilis<br />
periodSi, aramed 2003 wlis seqtemberSi.<br />
Sesabamisad, es iyo realoba,<br />
romelic daxvda „nacmoZraobas”<br />
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />
Semdeg.<br />
„inter raos” aseve ekuTvnis<br />
ramdenime mcire hesi _ siebis avtorebs<br />
uyvarT saxelebis didi<br />
CamonaTvali ise, rom STabeWdileba<br />
iqmneba, TiTqos saubaria mTel<br />
energosistemaze, Tumca realurad<br />
maTi jamuri simZlavre araferia<br />
engurisa da sxva msxvili eleqtrosadgurebis<br />
fonze.<br />
sinamdvileSi ki araviTari mniSvneloba<br />
ar aqvs, ra aris realu-<br />
miTebi ruseTis mier strategiuli<br />
obieqtebis dapatronebaze<br />
amaze ukve didi xania, aravin<br />
kamaTobs da amitomac saqmeSi Cauxedav<br />
adamians STabeWdileba Seeqmneba,<br />
TiTqos es marTlac asea.<br />
niSandoblivi isicaa, rom Zalian<br />
xSirad am braldebiT gamodian<br />
adamianebi, romlebic, amave<br />
dros, amboben: „ruseTi ar unda<br />
gavabrazoT”, „daTvs babaia unda<br />
dauZaxoT” _ patriotizmi da ruse-<br />
Tis miuRebloba ki uecrad eRvi-<br />
ZebaT maincdamainc „Telasisa” da<br />
„varcixe hesis” xsenebis dros.<br />
sasaciloa isic, rom am ritorikas<br />
xSirad iyeneben dRevandeli<br />
xelisuflebis Cinovnikebi da momxreebi<br />
_ maSin, rodesac swored<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” ZalisxmeviT<br />
Tu wayruebiT ruseTis gavlenam<br />
qarTul ekonomikaze miaRwia maqsimums<br />
_ dRes swored ruseTidan<br />
Camodis turistebis yvelaze didi<br />
raodenoba da swored ruseTia qarTuli<br />
produqciis mTavari importiori.<br />
xval an zeg, kremli auci-<br />
giuli obieqti ruseTis xelSia” _<br />
aris morigi miTi, romelsac realobasTan<br />
araferi aqvs saerTo.<br />
albaT yvelas gvinaxavs saocari<br />
siebi, sadac CamoTvlilia yvela<br />
obieqti, romelic wina xelisuflebis<br />
dros gadaeca ruseTs.<br />
siebi gansxvavdeba absurdulobis<br />
doniT _ zogi metad absurdulia,<br />
zogi naklebad, Tumca<br />
dalagebuli, racionaluri da realobasTan<br />
axlo _ arc erTi.<br />
pirvel rigSi, siebSi moyvanilia<br />
rusuli kompaniebi, romlebic<br />
didi xania ar floben maTTvis miweril<br />
obieqtebs _ magaliTad,<br />
„madneulsa” da „kvarcits” am siebis<br />
mixedviT flobs rusuli kompania<br />
„Ïðîìûøëåííûå èíâåñò-<br />
îðû”, maSin rodesac, realurad,<br />
wlebia gasuli am rusuli biznesidan<br />
_ saydrisis movlenebis wyalobiT<br />
patara bavSvmac ki icis,<br />
rom am obieqtebs flobs kompania<br />
RMG. Tumca, rogorc Cans, siebis<br />
neftma” iyida.<br />
es kompania Semovida saqarTvelos<br />
gazis regionul qselebSi,<br />
Tumca mas Semdeg, rac qveyana azerbaijanul<br />
bunebriv airze gadavida,<br />
jer kidev „nacmoZraobis”<br />
Rrma periodSi, „iteram” yvela<br />
Tavisi qarTuli aqtivi „sokargazs”<br />
mihyida.<br />
Tumca, albaT, esec arafers<br />
cvlis, radgan zogierT siaSi „sokaric”<br />
ki naxsenebia, rogorc rusuli<br />
kompania. ratom da ra mizezis<br />
gamo aRmoCnda azerbaijanis saxelmwifo<br />
navTobkompania saswaulebrivad<br />
rusuli _ aravin icis.<br />
asea, etyoba, saWiro da imitom.<br />
„sokarTan” erTad, yvela siaSi<br />
jiutad figurirebs rusuli „yaztransgazi”<br />
_ vinmem uTxariT sawyal<br />
nazarbaevs, rom misi qveynis<br />
umsxvilesi saxelmwifo kompania,<br />
Turme, rusulia.<br />
etyoba, siebis avtorebi ar erkvevian<br />
Sua aziis arc geografiaSi<br />
naTvalSi aseve moxvdnen „lukoili”,<br />
„bilaini” da „viTibi banki”.<br />
rogorc Cans, siebis avtorebma ar<br />
ician, ras niSnavs „strategiuli<br />
obieqti”. sinamdvileSi, strategiuli<br />
aris zogadsaxelmwifo mniSvnelobis<br />
obieqti, romelic erTaderTi<br />
da Seucvlelia, magaliTad:<br />
asafren-dasafreni bilikebi, energogamtari<br />
xazebi, milsadenebi.<br />
veranairi navTobkompania, romelic<br />
flobs bazris mcire nawils,<br />
ver CaiTvleba veranair „strategiul<br />
obieqtad”; iseve rogor komerciuli<br />
banki, romelic ar Sedis umsxvilesi<br />
bankebis xuTeulSic ki;<br />
iseve rogorc mobiluri kavSirgabmulobis<br />
kompania, romelsac konkurencias<br />
uwevs 2 umsxvilesi moTamaSe.<br />
saboloo jamSi, kargad rom<br />
davferTxoT siebi da realobas<br />
SevxedoT, xelT SegvrCeba mxolod<br />
erTi strategiuli obieqti, romelsac<br />
namdvilad flobs rusuli<br />
rad. „ruseTisTvis miyiduli strategiuli<br />
obieqtebis” „SemaZrwunebeli”<br />
sia aris ara ekonomikuri,<br />
aramed politikuri Widaobis berketi.<br />
politika ki iseTi ramea, rodesac<br />
saWiroa, „yaztransgazi” iqneba<br />
yazaxuri da rodesac saWiroa _<br />
rusuli. xval vinmes rom dasWirdes<br />
_ Cinuric iqneba...<br />
ar gegonoT, rom es warsulia _<br />
igive xdeba dResac, oRond sapirispiro<br />
mxridan: magaliTad, arafriT<br />
dasabuTebuli braldebebi,<br />
rom „rosnefti” yidulobs „visols”<br />
an braldebebi, rom „xelisuflebas<br />
qveynis navTobis bazarze<br />
rusebi Semohyavs „galfis” meSveobiT”<br />
maSin, rodesac „galfi”<br />
saqarTveloSi Semovida 2010 wels<br />
da maSinac misi mflobeli iyo rusi<br />
biznesmeni daviT iakobaSvili.<br />
saqarTveloSi xom politikaa<br />
yvelaferi...<br />
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eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarT-<br />
loSi „pijakebis saqmis” ganxilva grZeldeba. prokuratura<br />
general Temur janaSias winaswar SeTanxmebiT, jgufis mier<br />
samsaxurebrivi mdgomareobis gamoyenebiT, mis marTlzomier<br />
gamgeblobaSi arsebuli didi odenobiT sxvisi moZravi nivTis<br />
marTlsawinaaRmdego gaflangvas edaveba. saqarTvelos mTavari<br />
prokuraturis sagamoZiebo nawilis ufrosi, prokurori na-<br />
Tia sonRulaSvili, romelmac general janaSias brali warud-<br />
gina, daawinaures da is dRes aWaris prokuroria.<br />
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`pijakebis saqmis~<br />
morigi procesi<br />
ra weria janaSias bralis<br />
dadgenilebaSi?<br />
2010 wlis 24 ivnisidan 2013<br />
wlis 25 Tebervlamde periodSi<br />
Teimuraz janaSia iyo saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />
samsaxuris ufrosi, igi<br />
uSualod eqvemdebareboda saqarTvelos<br />
prezidents da warmoadgenda<br />
sajaro moxeles.<br />
2004 wlis ianvridan 2009 wlis<br />
aprilamde periodSi, saprezidento<br />
saqmianobis ganxorcielebis<br />
mizniT, mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
warmomadgenlobiTi xarjebi finansdeboda<br />
saqarTvelos prezidentis<br />
administraciisa da ssip<br />
saxelmwifo uzrunvelyofis saagentos<br />
saxsrebiT.<br />
2009 wlis martSi masobrivi<br />
informaciis saSualebiT cnobili<br />
gaxda, rom mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
mowveviT masaJist doroTi Steinis<br />
_ „doqtor dotis” saqarTveloSi<br />
viziti da misTvis gaweuli<br />
momsaxurebis anazRaureba ganxorcielda<br />
prezidentis warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
xarjebidan.<br />
vinaidan saqarTvelos prezidentis<br />
administraciisa ssip saxelmwifo<br />
uzrunvelyofis saagentos<br />
xarjebi iyo sajaro, sa-<br />
Wiro gaxda warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
xarjebis aramiznobrivad gamoyenebis<br />
faqtebis gamJRavnebis<br />
Tavidan acileba. am mizniT, mieil<br />
saakaSvilma, TiTqosda saqar-<br />
Tvelos saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />
samsaxuris mier dasacav<br />
pirTa usafrTxoebis amaRlebisa<br />
da dacvis xarisxis gasaumjobeseblad<br />
saWiro RonisZiebebis<br />
dasafinanseblad, sinamdvileSi<br />
ki piradi motiviT, gadawyvita,<br />
prezidentis sarezervo fondidan<br />
uSualo daqvemdebarebaSi myofi<br />
saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />
samsaxurisTvis saxelmwifos<br />
kuTvnili Tanxebis aramiznobri-<br />
Temur janaSia<br />
vad gamoyofa, rac ganxorcielda<br />
samsaxuris ufrosebis oTar<br />
qveliZisa da Teimuraz janaSias<br />
monawileobiT.<br />
kerZod, mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
davalebiT arsebuli samarTlebrivi<br />
safuZvlebis xelovnurad<br />
Sesaqmnelad zemoaRniSnulma pirebma<br />
2009-2013 wlebSi grifiT<br />
saidumlo werilebiT mimarTes<br />
saqarTvelos prezidents, TiTqosda,<br />
saxelmwifo dacvis specialuri<br />
samsaxuris saWiroebis-<br />
Tvis Tanxebis gamoyofis Sesaxeb.<br />
amdenad, Teimuraz janaSiam Caidina<br />
danaSauli, rac gaTvaliswinebulia<br />
saqarTvelos sisxlis<br />
samarTlis kodeqsis 182-e muxlis<br />
me-2 nawilis a, d qvepunqtiT<br />
da me-3 nawilis b qvepunqtiT.<br />
rogorc bralis dadgenilebidan<br />
irkveva, prokuratura Temur<br />
janaSiasTan erTad samsaxuris<br />
ufros oTar qveliZesac<br />
edaveboda igive danaSauls, Tumca<br />
am dromde mas brali wardgenili<br />
ar hqonda da braldebis<br />
mxaris mowmeTa siaSi iricxeboda.<br />
16 maiss gamarTul sxdomaze<br />
swored braldebis mxaris mowme<br />
oTar qveliZe daikiTxa. rogorc<br />
gairkva, mas 2019 wlis 3 marts<br />
warudgines brali.<br />
ar vici, ramdenad fiqrobda<br />
saxelmwifo braldeba imas, rom<br />
oTar qveliZe braldebis mxaris<br />
sasargeblo Cvenebas miscemda<br />
sasamarTlos, magram, realurad,<br />
misi Cvenebidan sul sxva ram gairkva:<br />
oTar qveliZis Cvenebam daadastura<br />
is, rasac janaSias dacvis<br />
mxare sistematurad acxadebda.<br />
realurad, saxelmwifo dacvis<br />
specialurma samsaxurma prezidentis<br />
gankargulebis safuZvelze<br />
xarjebis gaweva daiwyo oTar<br />
qveliZis ufrosobis periodSi.<br />
oTar qveliZem xarjebis gaw-<br />
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`Sejamebis saxiT SegviZlia vTqvaT, rom<br />
oTar qveliZis Cvenebam naTelyo<br />
prokuraturis mier warmoebuli<br />
tendenciuri da arasrulyofili gamoZieba~<br />
beqa basilaia<br />
evaze (xarjebi, rac manamde administraciis<br />
mier gaiweoda) davaleba<br />
miiRo prezidentis administraciis<br />
ufros ekaterine SaraSiZisgan,<br />
romelic mTavar prokuraturas<br />
arc gamoZiebis mimdinareobisas<br />
daukiTxavs da arc<br />
sasamarTlo ganxilvebis dros.<br />
oTar qveliZes prezident saakaSvilTan<br />
xarjebis gawevasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT ar usaubria, man<br />
daadastura, rom prezidentis<br />
gankarguleba, romelic, imavdroulad,<br />
umaRlesi mTavarsardalic<br />
iyo, saxelmwifo dacvis<br />
specialuri samsaxurisTvis<br />
Sesasruleblad savaldebulo<br />
iyo da revizias ar eqvemdebareboda.<br />
oTar qveliZem daadastura,<br />
rom rodesac Teimuraz janaSia<br />
samsaxuris ufrosad dainiSna<br />
prezidentis gankargulebis safuZvelze,<br />
xarjebis gawevis praqtika<br />
ukve arsebobda da am praqtikis<br />
kanoniereba eWvqveS ar<br />
damdgara, amdenad, janaSia moqmedebda<br />
umaRlesi mTavarsardlis<br />
werilobiTi gankargulebis<br />
Sesabamisad.<br />
rogorc zemoT aRvniSneT,<br />
oTar qveliZes 2019 wlis 3 marts<br />
waredgina braldeba, rodesac<br />
analogiur sakiTxze Teimuraz<br />
janaSia braldebulia 2014 wlidan<br />
da SezRudulia uflebebSi.<br />
qveliZis mimarT arc yadaRa<br />
yofila gamoyenebuli, arc sxva<br />
kanoniT dadgenili SezRudvebi,<br />
bralis wardgena ki, savaraudod,<br />
an formalur xasiaTs atarebs, an<br />
qveliZe prokuraturam misTvis<br />
sasurveli Cvenebis micemaze ver<br />
daiTanxma.<br />
beqa basilaia _ Temur jana-<br />
Sias advokati:<br />
_ Sejamebis saxiT SegviZlia<br />
vTqvaT, rom oTar qveliZis Cvenebam<br />
naTelyo prokuraturis mier<br />
warmoebuli tendenciuri da<br />
arasrulyofili gamoZieba. mis-<br />
Tvis braldebis 2019 wels wardgena<br />
prokuraturis mxridan wlebis<br />
manZilze Teimuraz janaSias<br />
winaaRmdeg warmoebuli SerCevi-<br />
Ti marTlmsajulebis aRiarebaa,<br />
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rogor emzadeba „demokratiuli<br />
moZraoba” 2020 wlis sapar-<br />
lamento arCevnebisTvis? partia,<br />
romelsac xSirad ixseneben pro-<br />
rusul politikur Zalad,<br />
rogor apirebs am kliSes moxsnas<br />
da gegmaven Tu ara partiaSi axa-<br />
li saxeebis Semoyvanas?<br />
aRniSnul TemebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„qronika+” esaubra „demokra-<br />
tiuli moZraobis” lider nino<br />
burjanaZes:<br />
_ q-no nino, pirvel rigSi, minda<br />
gubaz sanikiZesTan dakavSire-<br />
biT gkiTxoT, man partia datova.<br />
ra iyo amis mizezi? Tavad<br />
isaubra, Tumca sainteresoa<br />
Tqveni mosazreba.<br />
_ me SemiZlia gavimeoro mxolod<br />
is, rac iyo Cvens gancxadebaSi,<br />
romelic gaakeTa partiis<br />
pres-samsaxurma da rac Tqva Tavad<br />
batonma gubazma. Cven visaubreT,<br />
gvqonda SesaZlebloba, rom<br />
arsebuli movlenebi kidev erTxel<br />
gagveanalizebina, strategiul<br />
sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT Cven absoluturi<br />
Tanxmoba gvaqvs, xolo<br />
mTel rig taqtikur sakiTxebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT sxvadasxva arCevani<br />
arsebobs, Tu rogor unda imoqmedos<br />
politikurma Zalam. me da batonma<br />
gubazma am saubris Semdeg<br />
miviCnieT, rom am viTarebaSi sworia<br />
saerTo miznisTvis brZola,<br />
rasac hqvia qveyanaSi demokratiuli<br />
xelisuflebis mosvla da<br />
qveynisTvis sasikeTo saqmeebis gakeTeba,<br />
am mimarTulebiT umjobesi<br />
iqneba, Tu „demokratiuli mo-<br />
Zraoba” da batoni gubazi damoukideblad<br />
gaagrZeleben saqmianobas.<br />
Cven Cveulebrivi urTier-<br />
Toba gvaqvs, rogoric gvqonda,<br />
iseTi, Cven mxolod politika ar<br />
gvakavSirebs da es sakmaod cnobilia.<br />
absoluturad normaluri<br />
procesia, rodesac adamiani gadawyvets<br />
gundidan damoukideblad<br />
saqmianobis ganxorcielebas. Cven<br />
orivem erTmaneTs vusurveT warmateba<br />
saerTo saqmeSi da ar aris<br />
gamoricxuli, Cveni aqtiurobis<br />
gzebi kvlav gadaikveTos an, Sei-<br />
Zleba, paralelurad, sxvadasxvagvarad<br />
wavides. ase rom, es ar aris<br />
iseTi Tema, romelsac SeiZleba<br />
mudmivi msjeloba mohyves. me da<br />
batonma gubazma amaze visaubreT<br />
da vfiqrob, es sazogadoebisTvis<br />
sakmarisia.<br />
_ Tqven ganacxadeT, rom<br />
strategiul sakiTxebze erTnairi<br />
poziciebi gaqvT, mxolod taqtikur<br />
Temebs uyurebT gansxvavebulad.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi verSeT-<br />
anxmebis mTavari mizezi iyo Tu<br />
ara gaerTianebul opoziciasTan<br />
erTad brZolis gagrZelebis sa-<br />
kiTxi?<br />
_ am Temebze saubars ar vapireb.<br />
mec da batonma gubazmac,<br />
rac saWirod miviCnieT, vTqviT da<br />
am Temaze gancxadeba gavakeTeT.<br />
danarCeni momavalSi gamoCndeba,<br />
Tu ra nabijebs gadavdgamT.<br />
_ gasagebia. Sualeduri<br />
arCevnebis Sedegebi gansazRvravs<br />
Tu ara 2020 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Sedegebs?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, gansazRvravs,<br />
radgan dResac absoluturad<br />
naTlad Cans, rom xelisufleba<br />
emzadeba Sualeduri arCevnebis<br />
gasayalbeblad da 2020 wlis arCevnebis<br />
gasayalbebladac moemzadeba<br />
. amitom Sualedur arCevnebs<br />
yovelTvis aqvs mniSvneloba, miT<br />
umetes, rodesac es arCevnebi ax-<br />
los aris momaval arCevnebTan.<br />
Zalian naTlad vxedav, rom Tu xelisufleba<br />
ar airCevs gonivrul<br />
gzas, ar Secvlis, realurad, saar-<br />
Ceevno garemos da ar daiwyebs<br />
opoziciasTan seriozul saubars,<br />
oRond ara iseTs, rom satelitebad<br />
aqcios opozicia da opoziciis<br />
marTva gadawyvitos, aramed realur<br />
konsultaciebs; Tu biZina<br />
ivaniSvili isev Seecdeba, rom 2020<br />
wels kvlav mis xelSi darCes absoluturi<br />
Zalaufleba saqarTveloSi,<br />
es, ra Tqma unda, Zalian seriozul<br />
problemebs gamoiwvevs;<br />
rac Cans zugdidSi, radgan mosaxleobis<br />
Zalian did nawils ar unda<br />
biZina, aseve did nawils ar unda<br />
saakaSvili, Tumca es polarizeba<br />
awyobs rogorc biZinas, aseve<br />
_ saakaSvils. magram, vfiqrob, rom<br />
TandaTanobiT es realoba icvleba,<br />
2020 weli Zalian mZime da da-<br />
Zabuli iqneba xelisuflebisTvis.<br />
_ Tu 2020 wlisTvis opoziciis<br />
konsolidacia Sedga, ra SemTx-<br />
vevaSi iqneba „demokratiuli<br />
moZraoba” aseT opoziciur gaer-<br />
TianebaSi?<br />
_ arCevnebisTvis arasdrosaa<br />
gamoricxuli gaerTianebebisa Tu<br />
koaliciebis Seqmna. ra Tqma unda,<br />
gamoricxulia Cveni da „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” an Cveni da „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” gaerTianeba.<br />
es absoluturad erTmniSvnelovania,<br />
magram aris politikuri Zalebi,<br />
Tumca mcire, radgan ivaniSvilma<br />
maT gasanadgureblad yvelaferi<br />
gaakeTa. arian, aseve calkeuli<br />
adamianebi, visTanac saubari<br />
SeiZleba. gulwrfelad rom giTxraT,<br />
jerjerobiT, amisTvis mzad<br />
ar varT, magram, ra Tqma unda,<br />
arafris gamoricxva ar SeiZleba.<br />
_ 2020 wlisTvis ras gegmavT<br />
axal saxeebTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
Tqveni Svili politikaSi movida.<br />
mas, ra Tqma unda, warmatebas vu-<br />
surveb da iqneba Tu ara es „dem-<br />
okratiuli moZraobisTvis” axali<br />
saxeebis Semoyvanis dasawyisi?<br />
_ ar SeiZleba, politikaSi axali<br />
saxeebis Semoyvana TviTmizani<br />
iyos, radgan politika ar aris<br />
sporti, sadac axalgazrdoba da<br />
siaxle, umetes SemTxvevaSi, warmatebis<br />
motanis garantia. rogorc<br />
wesi, politikaSi piriqiT xdeba.<br />
warmatebis motanis garantebi<br />
arian is adamianebi, romelTac<br />
aqvT gamocdileba, gaukeTebiaT<br />
da SeiZleba gaufuWebiaT kidec<br />
da amitomac ician im simZimis fasi,<br />
rac mohyveba xolme Secdomas,<br />
an raime araswori nabijis gadadgmas.<br />
arc erT normalur qveyanaSi<br />
25, 26 da arc 30 wlis asakSi<br />
ministrebad da premier-ministrebad<br />
adamianebs ar niSnaven. Cven<br />
amas vakeTebT da amis Sedegsac<br />
vimkiT. politikas gamocdileba<br />
sWirdeba da SemiZlia sakuTari<br />
magaliTiT absoluturad pirdapir<br />
giTxraT: roca parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare viyavi, es gamocdileba<br />
rom mqonoda, rac dRes<br />
maqvs, gacilebiT efeqtiani da<br />
Zlieri parlamentis Tavmjdomare<br />
viqnebodi, vidre viyavi. rac Seexeba<br />
axal saxeebs, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
axalma saxeebma es kidev erTxel<br />
daadastures, adamianurad me<br />
maTi sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs<br />
da SesaZloa, maT mimarT keTilganwyobac<br />
mqondes, magram politikurad,<br />
ubralod, samarcxvinoebi<br />
arian, radgan absoluturad<br />
araswor gancxadebebs akeTeben.<br />
isini martivad amboben, rom, magaliTad,<br />
raRac pirvelad xdeba<br />
saqarTveloSi, am dros ar ician,<br />
rom es ukve gakeTebulia, amaze<br />
ukve namsjelia da gadawyvetilebac<br />
ki miRebulia. dRes ki amis<br />
safuZvelze moqmedeben. es yvelaferi<br />
araprofesionalizmis na-<br />
Tel STabeWdilebas tovebs, rac<br />
etyoba kidec qveyanas. rac Seexeba<br />
Cvens partias, madloba minda<br />
gadagixadoT, rom Cems Svilsa da<br />
partiis wevrs warmateba usurveT,<br />
Tumca vityodi, rom mas mxolod<br />
simbolurad SeiZleba axali saxe<br />
davarqvaT, radgan is am partiaSi<br />
daarsebis dRidanaa. man da misma<br />
megobrebma daaarses partiis axalgazrduli<br />
frTa, romelic<br />
Zalian efeqtiani iyo 2009 wlis<br />
saprotesto aqciebis dros da<br />
mTeli am 10 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
misi da misi megobrebis Tavze gadaira<br />
kargmac da cudmac, rac am<br />
partiaSi xdeboda, maT Soris, sakmaod<br />
rTulma da umadurma saqmeebma,<br />
radgan, rogorc wesi, isini<br />
saqmes akeTebdnen da naklebad Candnen.<br />
Cveni partiis axalgazrdebi<br />
2 ivniss gamoCndebian yrilobaze.<br />
es adamianebi, TavianTi axalgazrduli<br />
asakis miuxedavad sakmaod<br />
gamocdilebi arian politikur<br />
brZolebSi. yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
ki Semdegia: Cveni partiis<br />
axalgazrdebma ician, rom<br />
bevri ram ician, magram aseve ician,<br />
rom aris raRacebi, rac ar ician,<br />
rasac swavla da dro sWirdeba.<br />
maT ar aqvT uazro ambiciebi.<br />
dRes zogierTi axalgazrda quCa-<br />
Si rom gaaCero da premier-ministroba<br />
SesTavazo, SeiZleba, uari<br />
ar Tqvas. Cven aseTi axalgazrdebi<br />
ar gvyavs. Cven gvyavs axalgazrdebi,<br />
romlebmac bevri ram ician<br />
da bevri ram gamoiares, magram<br />
agrZeleben swavlas, aseve mzad<br />
arian konkretulad imisTvis,<br />
razedac acxadeben mzaobas, rom<br />
amis gakeTeba SeuZliaT. gnebavT,<br />
partiis erT-erTi lideroba Tu<br />
parlamentis wevroba da a. S.<br />
_ am mimarTulebiT mmarTveli<br />
gundis gaaqtiureba niSnavs Tu<br />
ara, rom isini grZnoben xifaTs,<br />
rom „ocneba” naklebad popularulia<br />
Tundac damwyebi politikosebisTvis<br />
da ramdenad sax-<br />
ifaTo niSnulze dganan isini?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, grZnoben.<br />
`vici, riT aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im<br />
deputatebs, romlebic wamosvlas apireben, -<br />
ivaniSvili pirdapir vaWrobs, - amas gagikeTeb,<br />
amdens mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian bevrs niSnavs<br />
politikaSi, magram gadis raRac dro, dgeba<br />
krizisuli niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />
aRaraferia~<br />
`dResve rom<br />
migviRon<br />
evrokavSirSi,<br />
orive xeliT<br />
mivesalmebi,<br />
mTeli Cemi<br />
partia<br />
droSebiT<br />
gamovalT<br />
quCaSi~<br />
vfiqrob, rom „qarTuli ocneba”,<br />
praqtikulad, dangreulia, realurad<br />
araferze dgas. isedac<br />
araferze idga, mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />
_ fulze. magram am fuls<br />
Zalian seriozulad amyarebda is<br />
pirovnuli ndoba, romelic biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis mimarT iyo. udavod,<br />
es gaxldaT maRali xarisxis<br />
ndoba da Zalian dasanania, rom am<br />
adamianma es ndoba, pativiscema da<br />
siyvaruli, romelic mis mimarT<br />
iyo saqarTvelos mosaxleobis absolutur<br />
umravlesobaSi, ase gaaniava.<br />
vinaidan mas endobian, vinaidan<br />
is bevrs uyvars da bevri<br />
afasebs mis gakeTebul saqmeebs,<br />
man, ratomRac, ifiqra, rom yvela<br />
unda marTos, yvelas Wkua unda<br />
aswavlos, yvelaferi iyidos da<br />
yvelaferi mis neba-survilze unda<br />
iyos. es iyo misi Zalian didi,<br />
ukve gamousworebeli Secdoma. ra<br />
Tqma unda, aman Zalian bevri politikuri<br />
miwisZvra gamoiwvia. Sei-<br />
Zleba patar-patara, romelsac<br />
ver vgrZnobT, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />
politikaSi garkeul Sedegs<br />
aucileblad moitans. procesi,<br />
romelic „qarTul ocnebaSia”<br />
dawyebuli, Seuqcevadia. vici, riT<br />
aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im deputatebs,<br />
romlebic wamosvlas<br />
apireben, _ ivaniSvili pirdapir<br />
vaWrobs, _ amas gagikeTeb, amdens<br />
mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian<br />
bevrs niSnavs politikaSi, magram<br />
gadis raRac dro, dgeba krizisuli<br />
niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />
aRaraferia. es, daaxloebiT, aseT<br />
situacias hgavs: karg gemze rom<br />
iyoT dasasveneblad da Zalian<br />
bevri fuli gqondeT, am fuliT<br />
SegiZliaT kargad gaataroT dro,<br />
magram Tu gemi CaZirvas daiwyebs,<br />
fuli mniSvnelobas dakargavs,<br />
mTavaria, fizikurad gadarCe, didi<br />
albaTobiT, im fuliT savse<br />
Cemodans gemze datovebT, ar daiwyebT<br />
CemodanTan erTad CaZirvas.<br />
daaxloebiT asea politikaSic: ra-<br />
Rac periodi fuli muSaobs, magram<br />
roca politikuri gemi CaZirvas<br />
iwyebs, fuli aRarafers niSnavs.<br />
vfiqrob, saqarTveloSi ase-<br />
Ti viTareba TandaTanobiT yalibdeba.<br />
yvelaze didi pretenzia,<br />
rac ivaniSvilis mimarT maqvs, aris<br />
is, rom man Tavisi sakadro gadawyvetilebebiT<br />
katastrofuli magaliTi<br />
misca axalgazrdobas,<br />
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`qarTuli ocneba~, praqtikulad, dangreulia, realurad araferze dgas.<br />
isedac araferze idga, mxolod ivaniSvilis - fulze. magram am fuls Zalian<br />
seriozulad amyarebda is pirovnuli ndoba, romelic biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
mimarT iyo. udavod, es gaxldaT maRali xarisxis ndoba da Zalian dasanania,<br />
rom am adamianma es ndoba, pativiscema da siyvaruli, romelic mis mimarT<br />
iyo saqarTvelos mosaxleobis absolutur umravlesobaSi, ase gaaniava~<br />
N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />
rodesac axalgazrdebs daanaxva,<br />
rom ar aqvs mniSvneloba, ra ganaTleba<br />
gaqvs, sad muSaobdi, ra<br />
gamocdileba gaqvs, ra gagikeTebia,<br />
nebismieri pozicia SeiZleba<br />
daikavo, Tu gaqvs fuli an mxars<br />
giWers fuliani adamiani. piriqiT,<br />
axalgazrdebs magaliTi unda<br />
misce, rom warmatebis misaRwev<br />
gzaze yvela nabijis gavlaa aucilebeli.<br />
politikosoba ginda? _<br />
keTili inebe da partiis rigiTi<br />
wevrobidan daiwye; xelisufleba-<br />
Si mosvla ginda? _ pirdapir premier-ministrobiT<br />
nu daawyebineb.<br />
es, albaT, ar aris imaTi brali,<br />
vinc amas dasTanxmda, Tumca Zalian<br />
kargad maxsovs, miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />
universiteti wiTel diplomze<br />
mqonda damTavrebuli da moskovis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetSi disertacia<br />
davicavi, aseve ukve parlamentSi<br />
iuridiul komitetSi<br />
wamyvan Tanamdebobaze vmuSaobdi<br />
(jer moadgile, Semdeg Tavmjdomare<br />
viyavi), rodesac SevardnaZem<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomareoba<br />
SemomTavaza, amaze<br />
uari vTqvi. gavacnobiere pasuxismgebloba,<br />
erTi dRec ar mqonda<br />
mosamarTled namuSevari da,<br />
Sesabamisad, ar davTanxmdi. veravin<br />
gaigo, ratom vTqvi uari, yvela<br />
gaocebuli iyo. Cemi axsna gaxldaT<br />
Zalian martivi: roca rigiT<br />
mosamarTled erTi dRec ar<br />
gimuSavia, rogor SeiZleba gaxde<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare<br />
da saboloo gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo adamianebis bedTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT?! CemTvis es iyo absoluturad<br />
warmoudgeneli. dRes gaaCereT<br />
iuridiuli fakultetis me-<br />
4 kursis studentebi, 10-dan 9-m<br />
SeiZleba giTxraT, rom ukve mzad<br />
aris uzenaesi sasamarTlos TavmjdomareobisTvis,<br />
radgan axalgazrdebma<br />
dainaxes, imdenad daeca<br />
xelisuflebaSi myofi adamianebisadmi<br />
da parlamentarebisadmi<br />
moTxovnis done, rom ukve yvelas<br />
gauCnda ambicia, _ masac Seu-<br />
Zlia iyos deputati, ministri, meri<br />
da a. S., es Zalian didi dana-<br />
Saulia saxelmwifos winaSe! es realoba<br />
profesionalizmis didi pativiscemiT<br />
unda Seicvalos.<br />
_ fuladma resursma SesaZl-<br />
oa, imdenad aRar imuSaos, Tumca<br />
saprezidento da Sualedur<br />
arCevnebzec davinaxeT, rom „oc-<br />
neba” aqtiurad iyenebs „antimiSa”<br />
da „antinacionalebis” kampanias,<br />
riTac komfortis zonaSia. gaW-<br />
ris Tu ara es meTodi 2020 wels?<br />
_ wina xelisuflebas rac ar<br />
unda 9 weli uZaxon, TviTon „ocneba”<br />
ukve 7 welia, xelisufleba-<br />
Si aris da sibinZuriT arafriT<br />
Camouvardeba „nacionalebs”. is<br />
meTodebi, riTac „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
muSaobs, Tavisi sibinZuriT saakaSvilis<br />
meTodebs arafriT Camouvardeba,<br />
raRacebSi zedmetic<br />
ki aris. is, rac ivaniSvilis xelisuflebaSi<br />
yofnis dros moxda,<br />
rodesac umaRlesi Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebs SantaJisa Tu Seuracxyofis<br />
mizniT gamouqveynes piradi<br />
cxovrebis masalebi, es saakaSvilis<br />
dros ar momxdara. SeiZleba,<br />
saakaSvilis dros iyo Cawerili,<br />
Tumca ra mniSvneloba aqvs, vis<br />
dros Caiweres, saakaSvils Tavisi<br />
codvebi eyofa. is, rom ivaniSvilis<br />
dros es moxda da amisTvis<br />
aravin dasjila, sawyali 16-17<br />
wlis bavSvebis garda, romlebmac<br />
daaRes piri da raRac sisuleleebs<br />
uyures, es samarcxvinoa am<br />
qveynisTvis da es unda damTavrdes!<br />
is, rom dRes saakaSvili xelisuflebaSi<br />
dasabruneblad<br />
ibrZvis da „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />
qveyanaSi arsebobs, rogorc meore<br />
politikuri Zala, amaze biZina<br />
ivaniSvils Zalian mwared unda<br />
moeTxovos pasuxi. Tqven absoluturad<br />
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ar moswons, am merobis kandidatis<br />
momxreebi lanZRva-ginebiTa da xelebis<br />
qneviT daxvdnen.<br />
mokled, yvelafer amis amocana<br />
swored es iyo, magram raRac momentSi<br />
saocari simSvide vigrZeniT<br />
da yvelafers am simSvidiT gavumklavdiT.<br />
Tavdamsxmelebi Zun-<br />
Zul-ZunZuliT wavidnen, policia<br />
movida, davTrebi gaSala da raRacebis<br />
Cawera daiwyo, ra da rogor<br />
iyoo. yvelafer amis gamo gadacemis<br />
Cawera, sul raRac, naxevari<br />
saaTiT dagvianda.<br />
mokled, es dRe CemTvis imis<br />
mikro modeli iyo, Tu rogor unda<br />
gaimarjvo agresiaze simSvidiTa da<br />
moTminebiT!<br />
_ naTqvamia, vinc iTmens, is igebso,<br />
magram mainc im Temas davu-<br />
brundebi da xelmeored gkiTxavT:<br />
Tqveni azriT, „ocneba” agresiis<br />
kultivirebas ratom cdilobs?<br />
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meti iaraRi ar aris!~<br />
sabWoTa kavSirsa da sabWourobas<br />
vebrZviT! Cveni mTavari mteric<br />
sxvaTa Soris, mmarTveli gun-<br />
dis mxardamWerebis mxridan<br />
agresiis gamovlinebis momswreni<br />
sxva drosac gavmxdarvarT _ ma-<br />
galiTad, 2013 wels, roca mixeil<br />
saakaSvili jer kidev prezidenti<br />
iyo da erovnul biblioTekasTan<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” wevrebs<br />
Tavs daesxnen. am agresias isic<br />
xom ar uwyobs xels, rom 2012<br />
wlis Semdeg xalxis cxovreba<br />
gauaresda, anu gaWirvebuli ad-<br />
amianebis marTva advilia?<br />
_ saubris dasawyisSi giTxariT,<br />
rom dadianebis baRSi Sexla-Semoxla<br />
mcire jgufTan moxda, anu zugdidSi<br />
ori dRe davyavi, qalaqSi<br />
davdiodiT, adamianebisgan keTilganwyobis<br />
meti araferi gvigrZnia.<br />
amitomac vamtkiceb, rom zugdidis<br />
moqalaqeebi agresiulebi ki<br />
ara, keTilganwyobilebi arian. ai,<br />
am adamianebs unda gaesaubroT da<br />
mixvdebiT, saqarTvelo evropa ratom<br />
aris!<br />
is marginaluri jgufi ki,<br />
romelic Tavs dagvesxa, katastroful<br />
umciresobaSia! zogadad,<br />
aseT agresiul adamianebs, me Tu<br />
mkiTxavT, warmomavloba ar gaaCniaT.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, sami Tu oTxi<br />
wlis win saprezidento biblio-<br />
`alya dagvartyes. win xan erTi gamoxteboda,<br />
xan - meore. yvelafer amas fonad uSveri<br />
gineba axlda. xels gviqnevdnen, an<br />
cdilobdnen, rom rogorme gamovewvieT da<br />
ginebaze ginebiT gvepasuxa, dartymaze -<br />
dartymiT da a. S. yvelafer amas<br />
Tavdamsxmelebi iRebdnen da warmoidgineT,<br />
rom maT gadaRebul masalaSi, romelic<br />
viRacas warudgines, Cven gamovCndebodiT, anu<br />
saboloo jamSi, Seiqmneboda STabeWdileba,<br />
rom adamianebis raRac jgufs, romelsac<br />
merobis es konkretuli kandidati ar<br />
moswons, am merobis kandidatis momxreebi<br />
lanZRva-ginebiTa da xelebis qneviT daxvdnen~<br />
maluri da keTili adamiani, ramdenic<br />
unda eCiCino, agresiulad<br />
ganawyo. amitomac vadareb sabWo-<br />
Ta epoqis agresiul milicielebs.<br />
_ agresia ileqeba. Sesabamisad,<br />
xom ar unda velodoT, rom, adre<br />
Tu gvian, es agresia mTel sazoga-<br />
doebas moicavs?<br />
_ amitomac vambob, rom agresias<br />
TavSekavebiT da moTminebiT unda<br />
vupasuxoT. es Cemi gamogonili ki<br />
ara, ZvelisZveli meTodia. metic,<br />
agresiasTan gamklaveba moTminebi-<br />
baSi am agresiul adamianebs ar<br />
hqondaT saSualeba, rom Zveleburad<br />
eTareSaT _ xalxi ecemaT,<br />
eZarcvaT da eZaladaT. yvelaferi<br />
es maSin aRikveTa, rac maTTvis<br />
Zalian mtkivneuli iyo. amitom es<br />
ar undodaT. arada, saxelmwifos<br />
Zaladobis aRkveTis legitimuri<br />
ufleba aqvs da am uflebas es jgufebi<br />
usamarTlobad miiCnevdnen da<br />
miiCneven. axla Zaladobis saSualeba<br />
isev miecaT da fiqroben, rom<br />
maTTvis samarTlianoba aRdga!<br />
swored es aris.<br />
_ Cven SigniT arsebuli sabWo-<br />
Ta kavSiri rogor unda davama-<br />
rcxoT da davangrioT?<br />
_ amaze Zalian banaluri pasuxia<br />
_ codniT, ganaTlebiTa da<br />
SromiT. moqalaqeoba elementaruli<br />
pasuxismgeblobaa, romelic<br />
yvela normalur adamians unda<br />
hqondes.<br />
mokled, TiToeulma Cvenganma<br />
unda vicodeT, rom qveynis momavali<br />
Cvens qcevazea damokidebuli.<br />
saerTod, eqstremalur situacia-<br />
Si sworad moqceva sazogadoebisTvis<br />
araCveulebrivi magaliTia.<br />
_ geTanxmebiT, magram Cvens sa-<br />
zogadoebaSi swored samoqalaqo<br />
ganaTlebis deficitia. imisTvis,<br />
rom TiToeuli Cvenganis samo-<br />
qalaqo Segneba amaRldes, mediam<br />
da igive politikurma speqtrma<br />
veqtorebi xom ar unda Secvalos?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, SarSan, biblioTekaSi<br />
saqarTvelos uaxlesi istoriis<br />
TeTr laqebze leqciebis kursi<br />
CavatareT. am leqciebis kursma<br />
axalgazrdebis Zalian didi daintereseba<br />
gamoiwvia. imisTvis, rom<br />
momavalze iyo orientirebuli, aucileblad<br />
Seni warmomavloba da<br />
biografia unda icode. istoria am<br />
qveynis biografiaa, magram roca<br />
sakuTari qveynis biografias ar<br />
icnob da ar ici, saidan modixar,<br />
vin xar, ra gza gamoiare, Secdoma<br />
sad dauSvi an ar dauSvi, amis gareSe<br />
momavals rogor gansazRvrav?<br />
Cvens istoriaSi Zalian bevri<br />
laqaa. yovel SemTxvevaSi, bevri<br />
ram ar viciT.<br />
wera-kiTxvis gamavrcelebeli<br />
sazogadoebis daarsebis 150 wlisTavi<br />
Sesrulda da amasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT am dReebSi ilia WavWavaZis<br />
centrma konferencia Caata. am kon-<br />
obo organizacia iyo.<br />
_ qveyanaSi rusuli okupacia<br />
axlac mZvinvarebs!<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. dRes uamravi<br />
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saganmanaTleblo funqcia<br />
aqvs.<br />
ai, magaliTad, Zalian kargi saqme<br />
keTdeba _ Tu ar vcdebi, literaturis<br />
muzeumTan sabWoTa kvlevis<br />
laboratoria arsebobs,<br />
romelsac Zalian kargi saganmanaTleblo<br />
programebi aqvs, karg<br />
diskusiebs marTavs da aseve wignebsac<br />
gamoscems.<br />
roca okupaciaze vsaubrobT,<br />
rogor SeiZleba, saqarTvelos moqalaqem<br />
ar icodes, vis mier aris<br />
Cveni miwebi gasxvisebuli _ yvela<br />
teritoria sabWoTa ruseTma gaasxvisa,<br />
magram amis Sesaxeb farTo sazogadoebam,<br />
samwuxarod, ar icis!<br />
_ sazogadoebisTvis swori mimarTulebisa<br />
da meinstrimis mice-<br />
ma xelisuflebis valdebulebaa<br />
Tu sazogadoebam gza Tavad unda<br />
gaikvalos?<br />
_ bunebrivia, yvelafer amaSi<br />
lomis wili xelisuflebaze modis.<br />
ai, magaliTad, saxelmwifo institutebi<br />
aviRoT _ ganaTlebisa<br />
da kulturis saministro risTvis<br />
arsebobs?<br />
_ es ritorikuli kiTxvaa. yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, mgoni, Tavad ba-<br />
tonma batiaSvilmac ar icis, ra<br />
ufleba-movaleobebi aqvs!<br />
_ saxelmwifo institutebma<br />
qveynis keTildReobaze nebismieri<br />
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samoqalaqo sazogadoeba ukeT<br />
rom iyos Camoyalibebuli, yvelaferi<br />
sxvanairad iqneboda.<br />
ise, am kuTxiT progress namdvilad<br />
vatyob, optimisti var da<br />
imedi maqvs, rom xelisuflebac<br />
Seicvleba da samoqalaqo sazogadoebac<br />
nebismieri xelisuflebis<br />
mimarT, romelic momavalSi mova,<br />
gacilebiT momzadebuli da kritikuli<br />
iqneba.<br />
_ xelisuflebis Secvlis Tqve-<br />
neuli modeli rogoria?<br />
_ SeiZleba, dameTanxmoT an ar<br />
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es mcire agresiuli jgufebi xe-<br />
lisuflebisgan finansdebian Tu,<br />
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arian, ase moiqcnen, radgan „oc-<br />
nebis” vali aqvT?<br />
_ gaaCnia.<br />
_ ras gaaCnia?<br />
_ am adamianebs rom vuyurebdi,<br />
iciT, vin gamaxsendnen?<br />
_ vin?<br />
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milicielebi da mokriminalo tipebi.<br />
imis Tqma Znelia, damkveTebi<br />
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hyavT gamoWerilebi, magram faqti<br />
saxezea: TviTonac agresiis matareblebi<br />
arian _ SeuZlebelia, nor-<br />
Ta da TavSekavebiT qristianuli<br />
saqcielia. agresiisa da siZulvilis<br />
agresiiTa da siZulviliTve<br />
damarcxeba SeuZlebelia _ es gamoricxulia!<br />
_ mcire agresiuli jgufebi<br />
TavianT qmedebas imiT amarTle-<br />
ben, rom Tu ase ar moiqcevian,<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba” xelisu-<br />
flebaSi dabrundeba da qveyanaSi<br />
masobrivi terori daiwyeba.<br />
_ diax, erTi SexedviT, TiTqos<br />
raRac Zaladobas aprotesteben,<br />
magram Tu CavuRrmavdebiT, mivxvdebiT,<br />
rom saqme mxolod is ar aris,<br />
ai, wina xelisuflebam vinmeze<br />
iZalada da aman protestis grZnoba<br />
gaaCina.<br />
iciT, mTavari ra aris? _ kanonmorCilebis<br />
mimarT gaCenili protesti,<br />
anu im cxra wlis ganmavlo-<br />
es Zaladoba mxolod romelime<br />
konkretuli politikuri jgufis<br />
mimarT ar aris gamovlenili. am<br />
SemTxvevaSi, zogadad, Zaladobazea<br />
saubari.<br />
_ e. i., erTgvarad sabWoTa mentalobis<br />
tyveobaSi varT _ mogexsenebaT,<br />
bolSevikuri mmarTvelobis<br />
dros yvelas an TiTqmis yvelas<br />
gvqonda gancda da moTxov-<br />
nilebac, rom kanoni unda dagver-<br />
Rvia. sxvaTa Soris, axla gamaxsen-<br />
da, 2012 wels Cemi erTi nacnobi<br />
„ocnebas” mxars uWerda da ambob-<br />
da, ai, miSa rom wava, qurdobas<br />
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metyviso.<br />
_ RmerTi gagaxarebT _ zusti<br />
aqcenti dasviT da zusti veqtori<br />
gansazRvreT!<br />
diax, axla Cven SigniT arsebul<br />
ferenciaze Zalian saintereso momxseneblebi<br />
iyvnen. megona, rom Cemi<br />
qveynis istoriaze cota ufro meti<br />
vicodi, vidre _ sxvam, magram<br />
am konferenciaze gairkva, rom Zalian<br />
bevri ram pirvelad gavige,<br />
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sazogadoeba rogor<br />
da risTvis Seiqmna, ra amocanebi<br />
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mimarTebiT adamianebi rogor<br />
iqceodnen.<br />
_ zaal batono, xom ar geCvenebaT,<br />
rom wera-kiTxvis gamavr-<br />
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Seqmna dResac aucilebelia?<br />
_ zemoxsenebul konferenciaze<br />
iTqva da am azrs mec veTanxmebi,<br />
rom ruseTis imperiis pirobebSi<br />
wera-kiTxvis gamavrcelebeli sazogadoeoba<br />
erTgvari arasamTavr-<br />
ebulia!<br />
_ anu „ocneba” damarcxebulia?<br />
_ dRes saubari oponirebaze ar<br />
aris _ Cven programebze ar vkama-<br />
TobT. xelisuflebis arsenalSi<br />
Zaladobisa da Tavdasxmis garda,<br />
meti iaraRi ar aris! ai, swored es<br />
metyvelebs, rom „ocneba” ukve damarcxebulia,<br />
Tumca sxva saqmea, es<br />
damarcxeba rodis gaformdeba!<br />
rogorc yvela normalur adamians,<br />
mec minda, rom es damarcxeba<br />
male gaformdes, radgan am siRatakis,<br />
umuSevrobisa da qveynidan<br />
mosaxleobis gadinebis yureba ukve<br />
autanelia!<br />
imis nacvlad, rom yvelaferi es<br />
moawesrigo, isedac agresiul adamianebs<br />
siZulviliT muxtav. amitomac,<br />
xelisuflebis momavals<br />
pesimisturad vuyureb!<br />
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a Sedegebi miviReT ori 17<br />
maisis Sedegad? ratom aris sa-<br />
zogadoeba orad gaxleCili? ras<br />
iTxovs „qarTuli marSi” da ratom<br />
aris agresiulad ganwyobili lgbtq<br />
(qviari _ gansxvavebuli; het-<br />
eronormatiul wesrigs radikalurad<br />
dapirispirebuli aqtivisti,<br />
_ red.) Temis warmomadgenleb-<br />
is mimarT igi?<br />
aRniSnul TemebTan dakavSireb-<br />
iT „qronika+” „qarTuli marSis”<br />
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esaubra:<br />
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zrdis dapirispirebis albaTobasa<br />
da agresiis gaRvivebas?<br />
_ saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqis<br />
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imasTan dakavSirebiT, rom 17 maisi<br />
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iyo. piriqiT, mgonia, rom am<br />
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rac Semdgom warmoSobs garkveul<br />
arasasurvel procesebs. Tu<br />
ar iqneba provocireba, ra Tqma unda,<br />
ar iqneba arc Sexla-Semoxla.<br />
mxolod da mxolod provocireba<br />
warmoSobs amas, Tumca minda, yvelas<br />
movuwodo, rom aseT SemTxvevebSi<br />
aranair provokacias ar ayvnen.<br />
Tu Cveni momxre raime tipis<br />
Zaladobas ganaxorcielebs, es pirdapir<br />
mtris wisqvilze daasxams<br />
wyals da CvenTvis sasikeTo ar iqneba.<br />
mxolod samarTlebrivi Car-<br />
CoebiT unda movaxerxoT is, rom<br />
saqarTveloSi garyvnilebis zeimi,<br />
anu geipraidi da geiaRlumi ar<br />
Catardes. mosazreba maqvs, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
unda Catardes erTaderTi<br />
aRlumi da es aris saqarTvelos<br />
SeiaraRebuli Zalebis aRlumi,<br />
danarCeni aRlumi CemTvis miuRebelia.<br />
gansakuTrebiT miuRebelia<br />
geiaRlumi im teritoriaze,<br />
sadac Cveni wminda salocavebia, sadac<br />
qaSueTis, sionis taZaria, sadac<br />
im biWebis saflavebia, romlebic<br />
1921 wels saqarTvelos damoukideblobisTvis<br />
ibrZodnen, iunkrebs<br />
vgulisxmob; sadac 9 aprils<br />
daRupuli adamianebis memorialia.<br />
anu am wminda adgilebSi, rodesac<br />
cdilob, rom ori mamakaci gaataro,<br />
romlebic erTmaneTs Sua qu-<br />
CaSi tuCebSi hkocnis, ra Tqma unda,<br />
Tavidanve ukve provokatori xar<br />
imitom, rom Zalian kargad ici, saqarTvelo<br />
aris evropuli, magram,<br />
amavdroulad, kavkasiuri Rirebulebis<br />
matarebeli qveyana da am<br />
SemTxvevaSi garkveul agresiul<br />
pasuxs miiReb. ar unda gaakeTo es<br />
iq, sadac miuRebelia, Tumca eseni<br />
mizanmimarTulad provocireben.<br />
maT es SeuZliaT, absoluturad<br />
sxva garemoSi da sxvanairad gaake-<br />
Ton, magram ara! _ maT geiaRlumis<br />
gamarTva undaT. saerTod, „qarTulma<br />
marSma” da arc erTma organizaciam<br />
rom ar iarsebobs, TviTon<br />
qarTuli sazogadoeba da qarTveli<br />
ar dauSvebs amas. es aris mTavari,<br />
rom aravin dauSvebs rusTavelis<br />
gamzirze an Tundac nebismier<br />
sxva adgilas quCaSi mamakacebma<br />
erTmaneTs dauwyon xvevna-kocna<br />
da mtlaSa-mtluSi. amas aravin<br />
sandro bregaZe:<br />
dauSvebs da es maT Zalian kargad<br />
unda icodnen.<br />
_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs, mamakaci<br />
mamakacs dauwyebs xvevna-koc-<br />
nas Tu qali _ mamakacs? nebismier<br />
SemTxvevaSi maT aqvT konstituciuri<br />
ufleba, gadaadgildnen, sadac<br />
moesurvebaT da rogorc moe-<br />
survebaT, problemas sad xedavT?<br />
_ konstituciuri ufleba nebismier<br />
adamians aqvs, rom dediSobila<br />
iaros quCaSi. Tqven kargad<br />
geCvenebaT is, rom zafxulSi sicxea<br />
da mTelma saqarTvelom gaixados<br />
tansacmeli da dediSobila<br />
iaros? qalebmac da kacebma rom<br />
iaron ase, kargad geCvenebaT? xom<br />
aris raRac moralur-zneobrivi<br />
kriteriumebi, romelsac kontituciis<br />
gareSe ar gadavdivarT, ar<br />
vakeTebT. metsac getyviT: CemTvis<br />
isic miuRebelia, gogom da biWma<br />
quCaSi erTmaneTs tuCebSi rom akocon,<br />
magram amas namdvilad ver Sevadareb<br />
imas, rom mamakacebma igive<br />
gaakeTon. es am konteqstidan absoluturad<br />
amovardnilia. magali-<br />
Tad, konstitucia ar krZalavs,<br />
rom adamianebi quCaSi seqsiT dakavdnen,<br />
Tumca arsebobs moralurzneobrivi<br />
kriteriumebi, romelsc<br />
kacobroba dRemde icavs da amiT<br />
`saqarTveloSi unda Catardes<br />
erTaderT aRlumi da es aris<br />
saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli<br />
Zalebis aRlumi~<br />
`qristianul<br />
samyaroSi<br />
saqarTvelo<br />
erTaderTi<br />
qveyanaa, sadac<br />
geiaRlumi<br />
arasdros<br />
Catardeba~<br />
ganvsxvavdebiT cxovelebisgan, rom<br />
aseT raRacebs ar vakeTebT, Torem<br />
bevri ramea, rac kanonSi ar aris<br />
gawerili.<br />
_ am adamianebis moTxovna ar<br />
aris rusTavelis gamzirze seqsiT<br />
dakaveba. isini, rogorc Tavad<br />
amboben, sakuTari RirsebisTvis<br />
ibrZvian...<br />
_ maTi mTavari moTxovnaa, rom<br />
gaiaron rusTavelis gamzirze da,<br />
faqtobrivad, rusTavelis gamziris<br />
okupacia moaxdinon. mec kargad<br />
vici da Tqvenc kargad mogexsenebaT,<br />
rom amas qarTveli xalxi ar<br />
dauSvebs, sul rom arc erTi organizacia<br />
ar darCes, maT Soris,<br />
„qarTuli marSic”. wlebia, maT<br />
ofisebi aqvT gaxsnili da muSaoben.<br />
aravin Sevardnila maTTan. seqsualuri<br />
umciresobis warmomadgeneli<br />
sakmaod bevri adamiani aris<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobaSi, parlamentSi,<br />
isini, ubralod, ar aRiareben,<br />
rom seqsualuri umciresobis<br />
warmomadgenlebi arian. Tu maT<br />
hgoniaT, rom es ar aris sasircxvilo<br />
saqme, maSin gamovidnen mTavrobis,<br />
parlamentis wevrebi, politikosebi<br />
da aRiaron TavianTi<br />
seqsualuri orientaciis Sesaxeb,<br />
iseve rogorc es gaakeTes germaniaSi,<br />
safrangeTsa da sxva qveyneb-<br />
Si. Cvens qveyanaSi amas ar aRiareben,<br />
sakmaod komfortulad da la-<br />
Rad cxovroben. maT aravin uvardeba<br />
kabinetebSi da aravin Zaladobs<br />
maTze, magram isini aqeT axdenen<br />
Zaladobas qarTul sazogadoebaze.<br />
Tuki komunistebis epoqaSi arsebobda<br />
vladimir leninis mier<br />
dawyebuli cnobili wiTeli terori,<br />
dRes Cven cisferi teroris<br />
epoqaSi vcxovrobT, magaliTad,<br />
konservatorulad moazrovne politikosebsa<br />
da sazogado moRvaweebs,<br />
erTi-ori gamonaklisis garda,<br />
daxSuli gvaqvs absoluturad<br />
yvela sainformacio saSualeba.<br />
Cven ver vawvdiT Cvens azrs sazogadoebas.<br />
es yvelaferi xdeba lgbtq<br />
organizaciebisa da lgbtq aqtivistebis<br />
pirdapiri brZanebiT.<br />
patriarqma, ojaxis siwmindis dResTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, gamoacxada<br />
koncerti. es ubralod koncertia.<br />
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erTnairsqesianTa qorwinebas~<br />
yvela xvdeboda, rom ar iqneboda<br />
lozungebi da raime saxis mowodebebi,<br />
Tumca lgbtq aqtivistebi<br />
momRerlebs daemuqrnen, rom Tu<br />
isini am koncertze wavidodnen,<br />
maT iseve gaufuWebdnen saqmes,<br />
rogor, Tavis droze, Tamar ivers<br />
gaufuWes. aris Tu ara es zewola,<br />
SantaJi, Zaladoba, rodesac adamians,<br />
momRerals, ukrZalav mivides<br />
sapatriarqoSi, samebis sakaTedro<br />
taZarSi da Tavisi xelovneba aCvenos<br />
simReriT?! amitomac vambob,<br />
rom dRes gvaqvs cisferi terori.<br />
_ im koncertze misvla da sim-<br />
Rera, garkveulwilad, niSnavs,<br />
rom lgbtq Temis warmomadgen-<br />
lebis mimarT ar gamoxataven<br />
solidarobas koncertSi monawileebi.<br />
Tamriko WoxoneliZem zustad<br />
axsna, ratom ar miiRo monawileoba,<br />
rasac sazogadoebis mxri-<br />
dan Zalian pozitiuri reaqcia<br />
moyva. dasawyisSic amas geubne-<br />
bodiT, rom sapatriarqos mxridan<br />
17 maisis ojaxis siwmindis dRed<br />
gamocxadeba xom ar iwvevs agresiis<br />
gaRvivebas-meTqi? Tundac koncertTan<br />
dakavSirebiT dapiri-<br />
spirebis axali talRa wamovida..<br />
_ aq logikas ver vxedav. e. i. ra<br />
gamodis, rom 17 maiss sapatriarqom<br />
rom dagegmos koncerti, masSi<br />
monawileoba agresias aRvivebs? Tu<br />
monawileoba ar aRvivebs agresias,<br />
maSin ratom ukrZalaven, ratom<br />
eubnebian lgbtq Temis warmomadgenlebi<br />
xelovanebs, rom ar miiRon<br />
monawileoba? rodesac gamodixar<br />
lgbtq organizaciis xelmZRvaneli<br />
da pirdapir ambob, Tu am koncert-<br />
Si monawileobas miiReb, igives dagmarTeb,<br />
rac Tamar ivers daemarTa,<br />
ucxoeTSi yvelanair gzas Cagiketavo,<br />
es ukve imas niSnavs, rom xelovan<br />
adamians Tavze axvev saku-<br />
Tar mosazrebas da, faqtobrivad,<br />
ukrZalav RonisZiebaSi monawileobas.<br />
swored es aris mTavari, rom<br />
am koncertis SemTxvevaSic lgbtq<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebisgan<br />
agresia modioda. es agresia ki<br />
moedineba mTel farTo sazogadoebaSi.<br />
saerTod ar amoeRoT xma<br />
koncerTTan dakavSirebiT, iqneb,<br />
vinme Tavisi surviliT ambobda<br />
uars an, iqneb, viRac Tanxmdeboda<br />
am koncertze, Tumca koncertTan<br />
dakavSirebiT azrTa sxvadasxvaoba<br />
mas Semdeg gaCnda, rac monawileebs<br />
pirdapir ultimatumi wauyenes,<br />
rom vinc am koncertSi miiRebda<br />
monawileobas, mas „Tamar ivers”<br />
damarTebdnen. koncertSi monawileebi<br />
ki xelovanebi arian, yvelas<br />
marTlmadideblobasa da Tavganwirvas<br />
ver mosTxov. isini SeSindnen<br />
da daemorCilnen lgbtq-s<br />
diqtaturas. isini gaxdnen lgbtqs<br />
diqtaturis monebi da maT uari<br />
ganacxades am koncertSi monawileobaze.<br />
es, daaxloebiT, imas hgavs,<br />
rodesac wiTeli teroris period-<br />
Si xelovnebis muSakebi uars ambobdnen<br />
garkveuli disidentebis<br />
gamoSvebaze xelis mowerisgan, mxolod<br />
da mxolod, imitom, rom maT<br />
sabWoTa kavSirSi yvelanairi gza<br />
eqnebodaT daxSobili. dRes es meordeba<br />
_ wiTeli Secvala cisferma,<br />
sxva aranairi gansxvaveba ar<br />
aris.<br />
_ is, rom Tundac mTavrobis<br />
warmomadgenlebs esircxvilebaT<br />
sakuTari gansxvavebuli orientaciis<br />
aRiareba, amaSi sazogadoe-<br />
bis problemas ver xedavT? es<br />
adamianebi, viszec Tqven ambobT,<br />
rom provokacias awyoben, swored<br />
`patriarqma, ojaxis siwmindis dResTan dakavSirebiT, gamoacxada koncerti. es<br />
ubralod koncertia. yvela xvdeboda, rom ar iqneboda lozungebi da raime<br />
saxis mowodebebi, Tumca lgbtq aqtivistebi momRerlebs daemuqrnen, rom Tu<br />
isini am koncertze wavidodnen, maT iseve gaufuWebdnen saqmes, rogor, Tavis<br />
droze, Tamar ivers gaufuWes. aris Tu ara es zewola, SantaJi, Zaladoba,<br />
rodesac adamians, momRerals, ukrZalav mivides sapatriarqoSi, samebis<br />
sakaTedro taZarSi da Tavisi xelovneba aCvenos simReriT?!~<br />
imisTvis ibrZvian, rom adamianebs<br />
sakuTari gansxvavebulobis ar<br />
rcxvenodeT.<br />
_ piradad CemTvis meZavoba da<br />
mamaTmavloba samarcxvinoa. is<br />
mamaTmavlebi, romlebic dRes xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi arian<br />
da mamaTmavlobas malaven, bevrad<br />
uzneoebi arian, vidre isini,<br />
vinc Riad acxadeben sakuTari<br />
orientaciis Sesaxeb. vinc malavs,<br />
is bevrad ufro uzneoa. isini Sei-<br />
Zleba erT dRes tradiciul sufraze<br />
sadRegrZeloebs svamdnen<br />
da piriqiT, mamaTmavlobas hkicxavdnen,<br />
meore dRes ki sodom-gomoris<br />
gzas adgebodnen. CemTvis<br />
fariseveli bevrad miuRebelia,<br />
vidre is adamiani, romelic Riad<br />
gamoxatavs Tavis pozicias. qarTuli<br />
sazogadoebisTvis bevrad ufro<br />
saSiSi arian is farisevlebi,<br />
romlebic xelisuflebaSi da mTavrobaSi<br />
mokalaTebulan, garyvnilebis<br />
morevSi CaZirulan da Zalian<br />
cud saqmes akeTeben qveyisTvis.<br />
Tu isini am orientaciis arian, gamovidnen<br />
da xmamaRla Tqvan da Tu<br />
hgoniaT, rom cud saqmes akeTeben<br />
da rcxveniaT, maSin ratom akeTeben<br />
cud saqmes?! bevrs ar unda<br />
iyos iseTi, rogoric aris, magram,<br />
ra Tqma unda, es misi brali ar<br />
aris, ubralod, ase moxda. mas unda<br />
iyos qali da aris mamakaci, an unda<br />
iyos mamakaci da aris qali. es adamiani<br />
SeiZleba mTeli cxovrebis<br />
manZilze amis gamo fsiqologiurad<br />
Sinaganad itanjebodes. es<br />
gasagebia CemTvis, magram ratom<br />
surs mas amis propagandireba da<br />
sxvac aseTive tanjvaSi Cavardes da<br />
am gzas daadges? es adamianebi adrec<br />
arsebobdnen, bevri xelovnebis<br />
muSaki iyo, ubralod, saxelsa<br />
da gvarebs ar davasaxeleb, magram<br />
isini sxvas ar axvevdnen Tavs saku-<br />
Tari cxovrebis wess. isini moRvaweobdnen,<br />
msoflioSi ganTqmuli<br />
xelovanebi iyvnen, magram ar Sedioidnen<br />
skolaSi da ar aiZulebdnen<br />
bavSvebs, biWi geis, xolo gogo<br />
lesboselis gzaze wasuliyo. rodesac<br />
adamiani aratdradiciuli<br />
orientaciis warmomadgenelia, am<br />
dros arCevnebSi monawileobs da<br />
ambobs, rom is aris tradiciebis<br />
damcveli, morwmune da qristiani,<br />
amiT iRebs xmebs, swored aseTi adamiania<br />
fariseveli. Riad rom Tqvas,<br />
homoseqsuali varo, 2 xmas ver<br />
miiRebs arCevnebSi da ver gaxdeba<br />
verc parlamentari da verc ministri,<br />
es kargad icis man, amitom<br />
TvalTmaqcobs da TvalSi nacars<br />
gvayris.<br />
_ Tqven TqviT, rom im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu arCevnebze Riad ga-<br />
nacxadebs kandidati, rom lgbtq<br />
Temis warmomadgenelia, is 2<br />
xmasac ver miRebs. ar fiqrobT,<br />
rom es sazogadoebis problemaa,<br />
roca kandidats seqsualuri ori-<br />
entaciis mixedviT afasebs da ara<br />
imis mixedviT, rogori politiko-<br />
sia da ra SeiZleba gaakeTos? am<br />
damokidebulebiT xom Tavad sa-<br />
zogadoeba zaraldeba?<br />
_ vfiqrob, rom qveyana unda<br />
marTos zneobrivad mdgradma adamianebma.<br />
zneobrivi mdgradoba unda<br />
iyos erT-erTi ganmsazRvreli<br />
maSin, roca adamianebi arCevans ake-<br />
Teben. unda arsebobdes raRac kriteriumebi,<br />
romelsac politikosi<br />
unda akmayofilebdes zneobriobis<br />
kuTxiT. ar SeiZleba, adamiani iyos<br />
garyvnili da is moralze gvelaparakebodes.<br />
Cven unda moviqceT<br />
ise, rogorc Cvens ers Seefereba<br />
Tavisuflebis principidan gamomdinare,<br />
magram Tavisufleba ar<br />
niSnavs garyvnilebasa da garyvnilebis<br />
propagandas. zogierT<br />
qveyanaSi incests akanoneben. gaivlis,<br />
albaT, 4-5 weli da gamoCndebian<br />
sulierad da xorcielad avadmyofi<br />
adamianebi, romlebic Cvens<br />
qveyanaSic moindomeben incestis<br />
dakanonebas. ra vqnaT Cven, rom<br />
maTi Tavisuflebis principebi ar<br />
davarRvioT da es incesti davakanonoT?<br />
eseni ver miaRweven Cvens<br />
qveyanaSi erTsqesianTa qorwinebas,<br />
magram rom miaRwion, Semdegi nabiji<br />
iqneba incestis dakanoneba da<br />
saqarTvelos bolomde Cafvla garyvnilebis<br />
morevSi. me bednieri<br />
adamiani var, rom mTel qristianul<br />
samyaroSi saqarTvelo erTaderTi<br />
qveyanaa, oazisia, sadac geiaRlumi<br />
ar Catarebula da arc<br />
arasodes Catardeba. uzneoebi qirqileben<br />
saqarTvelos RvTismSoblis<br />
wilxvedrobaze, magram CemTvis<br />
es qveyana aris RvTismSoblis<br />
wilxvedri da swored saqarTvelodanaa<br />
SesaZlebeli daiwyos zneobrivi<br />
da moraluri Semobruneba<br />
evropaSi. miT umetes, im fonze,<br />
roca evropaSi politika absoluturad<br />
Seicvala. Cven amas ar gveubnebian,<br />
simarTles gvimalaven.<br />
evroparlamentis arCevnebSi nacionalisturi,<br />
erovnuli Zalebi<br />
imarjveben. evropaSi nacionalizmisa<br />
da erovnulobis bumia. avstriaSi<br />
nacionalisti sebastian kurcia<br />
xelisuflebis kancleri, italiis<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa ministri nacionalisturi<br />
partiis lideria,<br />
safrangeTis evroparlamentis<br />
arCevnebSi mari le penis partia<br />
5%-iT uswrebs makronis partias.<br />
holandiaSic, belgiaSic, absoluturad<br />
yvelgan, erovnulebi modian<br />
xelisuflebaSi. Cven gvacxovroben<br />
90-iani wlebis evropaSi, sadac<br />
liberalizmi yvaoda. aRar aris,<br />
damTavrda liberalizmis dro.<br />
amerikis SeerTebul StatebSic ki<br />
xelisuflebaSi movida tradiciuli<br />
Rirebulebebis matarebeli<br />
adamiani prezidentad _ donald<br />
trampi. vice-prezidenti maik pensi<br />
ki iseT gancxadebebs akeTebs,<br />
xandaxan „qarTuli marSis” wevri<br />
mgonia. aseve pompeoc gamokveTili<br />
konservatoria. am dros TvalSi<br />
nacars gvayrian da hilari klintonis<br />
droSi gvacxovreben, evropaSi<br />
damTavrda es dro.<br />
_ Tu Tqven ambobT, rom Tval-<br />
Si nacars gvayrian da 90-ian wleb-<br />
is evropaSi gvacxovreben, is, rac<br />
xdeba, mxolod propagandaa da<br />
organizaciebi grantebisTvis<br />
ibrZvian, amas ras upirispirebT,<br />
„qarTuli marSisTvis” damaxasi-<br />
aTebel agresias?<br />
_ maxsendeba donald trampis<br />
arCevnebi, rodesac mas homofobiasa<br />
da aTas rames abralebdnen, magram<br />
man gaimarjva da yvelam dainaxa,<br />
rom donald trampi arc agresiulia,<br />
arc homofobi da arc kaciWamiaa.<br />
Tumca dRemde mimdinareobs<br />
mis winaaRmdeg seriozuli<br />
brZola da dRemde aTasgvar Wors<br />
ugoreben. daaxloebiT igive mdgomareobaSia<br />
yvela nacionalisti<br />
politikosi mTel msoflioSi, maT<br />
raRac Worebs ugoreben. erTi magaliTi<br />
mainc manaxon, rodesac „qarTuli<br />
marSis” romelime wevri Seexo<br />
seqsualuri umciresobis warmomadgenels<br />
an Seuracxyofa miayena,<br />
aseTi magaliTi bunebaSi ar arsebobs.<br />
Cven Tu Cvens azrs vafiqsirebT<br />
da diskusiaSi SevdivarT,<br />
es arc Zaladobaa da arc agresia.<br />
Cven iseve vafiqsirebT Cvens azrs,<br />
rogorc sxvebi, magram maT surT,<br />
moZaladeebi gamogviyvanon.<br />
_ metsac getyviT: TaTia<br />
doliZe, romelic ar aris seqsualuri<br />
umciresobis warmomad-<br />
geneli, swored „qarTuli marSis”<br />
wevrebis mxridan iyo fsiqolo-<br />
giuri da sityvieri zewolis msx-<br />
verpli. amas riT axsniT?<br />
_ marSs, daaxloebiT, 10 000<br />
wevri hyavs, am adamianebSi Tu Ta-<br />
Tia doliZis mier Cveni misamarTiT<br />
naTqvami uxamsi gamonaTqvamebi vi-<br />
Racam ver aitana da mas Seagina, es<br />
SeiZleba CemTvis misaRebi ar iyos,<br />
magram es Zaladoba ar aris.<br />
_ mxolod Segineba ar iyo, mas<br />
marSis wevrebi gaupatiurebiT<br />
emuqrebodnen...<br />
_ „feisbuqiT” gaupatiureba sad<br />
ginaxavT? (icinis) es iyo raRac<br />
fantazia da gamobmuli kudebi,<br />
Tumca SeiZleba qalbatonma Seuracxyofa<br />
mogayenos, magram mas ar<br />
vupasuxebdi da arc mipasuxia.<br />
evropaSi aris nacionalisturi<br />
jgufebi igive fexburTis gulSematkivrebi,<br />
vxedavT, rom saswaulebi<br />
xdeba xolme. „qarTuli marSis”<br />
arc erTi warmomadgeneli TiTi-<br />
Tac ki ar Sexebia umciresobis warmomadgenels<br />
da arc vapirebT. Cven<br />
Cveni zneobiT, moraliT, politikuri<br />
SexedulebiT, Cveni mtkice<br />
suliT movipovebT gamarjvebas da<br />
araniarad ar vapirebT viRacebze<br />
xelis gadagrexas.<br />
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TbilisSi 18-dan 23 ivnisis CaTvliT<br />
„lgbtq” praidi gaimarTeba.<br />
organizatorebis TqmiT, kvireulis<br />
farglebSi sxvadasxva socialur,<br />
kulturul da politikur<br />
RonisZiebas vixilavT.<br />
kvireulis farglebSive saer-<br />
TaSoriso konferencia gaimarTeba,<br />
romelsac saqarTvelos mTavrobis,<br />
diplomatiuri korpusis,<br />
saxalxo damcvelis aparatis, sazogadoebrivi<br />
jgufebis , umciresobebze<br />
momuSave organizaciebisa<br />
da „lgbtq” Temis wevrebi daeswrebian.<br />
saerTaSoriso konferencias<br />
aseve daeswrebian sxvadasxva<br />
qveynis mTavrobis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
kvireulis farglebSi aseve<br />
franc kafkas moTxrobis mixedviT<br />
warmodgenili iqneba socialuri<br />
speqtakli. speqtakls 600 adamiani<br />
daeswreba da did Teatralur<br />
darbazSi gaimarTeba.<br />
„lgbtq” kvireuli Rirsebis<br />
marSiT dasruldeba. organizatorebis<br />
TqmiT, marSs sazeimo an<br />
karnavalis saxe ar eqneba. Rirsebis<br />
marSiT aqciis monawileebi sazogadoebas<br />
aCveneben, rom maTac<br />
awuxebT siRaribe, umuSevroba, okupacia<br />
da a. S.<br />
saprotesto msvlelobiT isini<br />
kidev erTxel gaaJRereben<br />
mesijebs, rom maT mSvidobian da<br />
araZaladobriv garemoSi surT<br />
cxovreba.<br />
„qronika+~„ Tbilisi praidis”<br />
erT-erT organizator Tamaz so-<br />
zaSvils esaubra:<br />
_ Tamaz, minda gavixsenoT 2013<br />
wlis 17 maisis mSvidobiani aqciis<br />
darbeva, dRes ra Sefaseba Se-<br />
giZliaT gaakeToT da zogadad,<br />
ra Secvala am dRem „lgbtq<br />
lgbtq”<br />
Temisa da qarTuli sazogadoeb-<br />
is cxovrebaSi?<br />
_ 2013 wlis 17 maisis aqciis<br />
organizatori da monawile ar vyofilvar,<br />
im dros Zalian patara<br />
viyavi. Tumca kadrebi nanaxi maqvs<br />
da informacias vflob Cemi megobrebisgan,<br />
aqtivistebisgan, Tanam-<br />
Sromlebisgan Tu ra xdeboda im<br />
dros aqciaze. Cemi SefasebiT, es<br />
iyo kargi lustracia eklesiisa,<br />
Tu rogori fariseveli SeiZleba<br />
iyos is. qarTulma sazogadoebam<br />
dainaxa sasuliero pirebis mier<br />
darazmuli adamianebi, rogor misdevdnen<br />
mSvidobiani aqciis aTeulobiT<br />
monawiles Casaqolad. bunebrivia,<br />
es umZimesi aqcia iyo da<br />
dRemde mtkivneulia qarTveli<br />
qviar (qviari _ gansxvavebuli;<br />
heteronormatiul<br />
wesrigs<br />
radikalurad dapirispirebuli<br />
aqtivisti, _ red.) adamianebisTvis<br />
da qviar aqtivistebisTvis<br />
es dRe gasaxseneblad. 2013 wlis<br />
17 maisma udidesi fsiqologiuri<br />
travmebi miayena adamianebs da gansakuTrebiT<br />
maT, vinc yviTel avtobusebSi<br />
imyofeboda. es ar iyo<br />
arc erTi normalurad moazrovne<br />
adamianisTvis mSvidad sayurebe-<br />
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`17 maiss yovelTvis gagvaxsendeba<br />
2019 wlis 17 maisi, SeiZleba<br />
2019 wlis 17 maisi, SeiZleba<br />
levan qemokliZe<br />
iTqvas, mSvidobianad dasrulda,<br />
593 16 01 40<br />
radgan am dRes „lgbtq” aqtiv-<br />
istebma RonisZiebis gamarTvaze<br />
uari Tqves. maTi SefasebiT, „homofobiasTan da transfobiasTan<br />
brZolis dRe politikurma da religiurma eqstremistulma<br />
jgufebma miisakuTres da „lgbtq” adamianebisTvis qu-<br />
CaSi usafrTxo sivrce aRar datoves~.<br />
li. mniSvnelovania, rogor ganvi-<br />
Tarda am dRis Semdeg movlenebi!<br />
_ sapatriaqo organizatori iyo<br />
Zaladobisa da is, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
TanamSromlobda qarTul saxelmwifosTan...<br />
_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />
_ saxelmwifom, erTi mxriv, ar<br />
gamoiyena yvela berketi da resursi,<br />
raTa daecva aqciis monawileebi...<br />
policiam Tavad gaxsna<br />
derefani da moZalade adamianTa<br />
jgufi gauSva aqciis monawileebis<br />
mimarTulebiT. es yvelaferi<br />
kadrebSi Cans, romelic asaxavs im<br />
sisatikes, rac 2013 wels xdeboda<br />
TbilisSi. ra moxda amis Semdeg?<br />
2014 wels, imis nacvlad, rom sapatriarqos<br />
es yvelaferi gaeazrebiana<br />
da xmamaRla eTqva ZaladobisTvis<br />
ara! _ miviReT ojaxis<br />
siwmindis dRe... es aris niRbis qveS<br />
dakanonebuli Cagvra qviar adamianebis<br />
winaaRmdeg, imitom rom maT<br />
17 maisi wagvarTves.<br />
_ saxelmwifos mxridan ramdenad<br />
adekvaturi iyo samarTlebrivi<br />
Sefaseba im Zaladobaze,<br />
rac 2013 wlis 17 maiss vixi-<br />
leT?<br />
_ saqalaqo sasamarTlom gaamarTla<br />
erT-erTi sasuliero piri,<br />
romelic „taburetkiT” misdevda<br />
aqciis monawileebs da aseve is<br />
ramdenime adamiani, romelic uSualod<br />
ZaladobaSi iyo braldebuli.<br />
maT minimaluri jarimebi (100<br />
lari) daekisraT. am faqtebma cxadyo<br />
saxelmwifos pozicia, rom im<br />
periodSi ar iyo politikur neba,<br />
saxelmwifos xmamaRla eTqva: „lgbtq”<br />
adamianebi arian Cveni sazogadoebis<br />
srulfasovani wevrebi<br />
da maT SeuZliaT isargeblon<br />
yvela im uflebiT, romliTac<br />
sargebloben saqarTvelos sxva<br />
moqalaqeebi.<br />
_ sapatriarqos gancxadebebs<br />
Tu gadavxedavT, is ambobs, rom<br />
emijneba yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />
Tumca viTareba ar icvleba...<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, es tendencia<br />
mec SevamCnie, axali narativi Semoitanes<br />
da amboben, rom isini emijnebian<br />
yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />
Tumca, amave dros, amboben, rom<br />
isini pasuxismgeblobas ver aiReben<br />
imaze, Tuki Zaladobis faqtebi<br />
moxdeba maT mier organizebul<br />
RonisZiebebze. SeiZleba raRacebi<br />
gaiazres kidevac, ar vici... 2013<br />
wlis 17 maisma, garkveulwilad,<br />
maTzec imoqmeda negatiurad,<br />
radgan aCvenes, Tu rogori Zaladobrivi<br />
institutia sapatriarqo „lgbtq”<br />
Temis mimarT. Zalian bevri<br />
adamianisTvis es dRe iyo Sokismomgrveli,<br />
vinc manamde cota neitralurad<br />
iyo ganwyobili „lgbtq”<br />
Temis mimarT. dainaxes, rom<br />
is Zaladoba Tavidan bolomde<br />
provocirebuli iyo eklesiis warmomadgenlebis<br />
mier da 17 maiss<br />
yovelTvis gagvaxsendeba „taburetkiani”<br />
mRvdeli. SesaZloa vivaraudod,<br />
rom raRacebi Tavad<br />
Tamaz sozaSvili:<br />
`sapatriaqo<br />
organizatori iyo<br />
Zaladobisa da is,<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
TanamSromlobda<br />
qarTul<br />
saxelmwifosTan...~<br />
sapatriarqoSic gadaiazres, Tumca,<br />
meore mxriv, ver Tmoben Zalauflebas,<br />
radgan es Temebi maT-<br />
Tvis Zalauflebis SenarCunebis<br />
instrumentia; Zalauflebis<br />
demonstraciis saSualeba, rom<br />
yovel 17 maiss adamianebi quCaSi<br />
gamoiyvanon da, raRacnairad, maT-<br />
Tvis es dRe dakanonda Cagvris instrumentad,<br />
raTa gavlenebi<br />
hqondeT konkretul jgufebsa da<br />
institutebze.<br />
_ politikuri speqtri Zalian<br />
xSirad borotad iyenebs „lbgtq”<br />
Temis problemebs qulebis dasaw-<br />
erad, rogor fiqrobT, ratom?<br />
_ yvela gamokiTxviT qveynis<br />
mosaxleobis umravlesoba, umTavressa<br />
da umniSvnelovanes problemebs<br />
Soris gamoarCevs: siRaribes,<br />
umuSevrobasa da okupacias.<br />
es aris is ZiriTadi sami<br />
problema, romelic saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeebs awuxebs, Sesabamisad,<br />
politikosebs, romlebsac ar<br />
gaaCniaT politikuri neba an ar<br />
SeuZliaT problemebis mogvareba,<br />
isini sul sxva rames sTavazoben<br />
mosaxleobas da xelovnurad<br />
aRviveben SuRls, zizRsa da agresias<br />
„lgbtq” adamianebis mimarT,<br />
raTa mTavari problemebi gadafaron.<br />
amis naTeli magaliTia sakonstitucio<br />
Canaweri qorwinebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rom es<br />
aris qalisa da mamakacis erToba.<br />
es sakiTxi ar dgas da arc idga<br />
qviar adamianebis dRis wesrigSi,<br />
Tundac samoqalaqo partnioroba,<br />
an qorwinebis Tanasworoba, imitom<br />
rom Cven Zalian bevri sxva<br />
problemis winaSe vdgavarT, Tumca<br />
xelovnurad wamowies, radgan<br />
es iyo maTi winasaarCevno kampania.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom arsebuli<br />
kanonmdebloba isedac ar gvaZlevda<br />
qorwinebis an samoqalaqo partniorobis<br />
SesaZleblobas, ubralod,<br />
politikosebma damatebiTi<br />
garantiebi Semoitanes da yvelas<br />
gvaxsovs, rogor dadiodnen ganxilvebze.<br />
aseve 19 maiss gamarTulma<br />
Sualedurma arCevnebma naTlad<br />
aCvena, rom mxolod siZulvilsa<br />
da homofobiaze agebul saarCevno<br />
kampanias warmateba ar moaqvs!<br />
„lgbtq” adamianebis Cagvra da gandevna<br />
sajaro sivrceebidan ar agvarebs<br />
im gamowvevebs, ris winaSec<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis didi<br />
umravlesoba dgas. es unda iyos<br />
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`taburetkiani mRvdeli~<br />
gakveTili sxva politikuri jgufebisTvisac,<br />
raTa samomavlod<br />
realuri problemebis gadaWraze<br />
mimarTon Zalisxmeva. koba davi-<br />
TaSvilma 3%-ic ver aiRo, misi<br />
winasaarCevno kampania ki srulad<br />
iyo homofobiasa da trasfobiaze<br />
agebuli.<br />
_ da mainc, ratom ar aRiniSna<br />
wlevandel wels 17 maisi?<br />
_ am kiTxvaze sruyofil pasuxs<br />
ver gagcemT, amaze saTemo organizaciebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi isaubreben.<br />
me gesaubrebiT, rogorc<br />
„Tbilisi praidis” erT-erTi organizatori<br />
da Cveni pozicia ase-<br />
Tia: Cven ukve organizebas vuwevT<br />
Zalian did da mniSvnelovan RonisZiebas<br />
_ kvireuls. imdenad bevri<br />
ram sWirdeba am yvelafris organizebas,<br />
fizikurad dro da<br />
resursi aRar gvqonda, 17 maiszec<br />
gvezruna. Cemi piradi pozicia ki<br />
aseTia: yvelasTvis cnobilia, rom<br />
17 maisi homofobiasTan, bifobiasTan<br />
da transfobiasTan brZolis<br />
saerTaSoriso dRea. 2014 wlidan<br />
ki patriarqis iniciativiT mar-<br />
Tlmadidebeli eklesia „ojaxis<br />
siwmindis dRes” aRniSnavs. SeiZleba<br />
iTqvas, rom es dRe, realurad,<br />
eklesiam wagvarTva. e. w. ojaxis<br />
siwmindis dRed SefuTes, TiTqos<br />
isini emijnebian yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />
magram sazogadobis didma<br />
nawilma kargad dainaxa, rom es<br />
aris dakanonebuli Cagvra da si-<br />
Zulvili „lgbtq” Temis mimarT da<br />
amas cxadyofs im cnobili adamianebis<br />
uari, sapatriarqos mier<br />
organizebul sazeimo koncertSi<br />
mieRoT monawileoba. sazogadoebis<br />
nawilma da cnobilma momRerlebma<br />
gaiazres, rom es realurad<br />
iyo dakanonebuli Cagvra da<br />
Zaladoba „lgbtq” pirebis mimarT.<br />
faqtobrivad homofobiasTan, bifobiasTan<br />
da transfobiasTan<br />
brZolis saerTaSoriso dRes sajaro<br />
sivrcidan gagvaZeves _ welsac<br />
da SarSanac mogviwia, partizanulad<br />
migvewvdina xma sazogadoebisTvis<br />
da saxelmwifosTvis.<br />
„Tbilis praidma” wlevandeli 17<br />
maisisTvis, Tavis mxriv, gamoaqveyna<br />
gzavnili videos saxiT: „Cven<br />
gvinda, vicxovroT mSvidobian,<br />
araZaladobriv, Semdgar sazogadoebaSi,<br />
romelSic yvela daculia.<br />
Cven vebrZviT usamarTlobas,<br />
yvela Cagruli jgufis mimarT<br />
varT solidarulebi. Cven ar vapirebT<br />
damalvas, ase cxovreba<br />
gausaZlisia. Cven vibrZviT RirsebisTvis,<br />
Cven ar varT cota da<br />
aravis davtovebT marto”. video-<br />
Si Temis wevrebis mesijebi mkafio<br />
iyo sazogadoebisa da politikosebis<br />
mimarT. ai, es aris Cemi pozicia,<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom Cven<br />
varT dakanonebuli Cagvris momswre<br />
da CvenTvis yoveli weli<br />
brZolaa. saxelmwifo aranair efetian<br />
nabijebs ar dgams, Tundac im<br />
agresiuli, faSisturi dajgufebebis<br />
qmedebeze. es agresias axalisebs.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi aseTi mocemuloba<br />
gvaqvs: sapatriarqo ambobs,<br />
rom emijneba yovelgvar Zaladobas,<br />
„qarTuli marSic” igives<br />
imeorebs da gmobs yovelgvar<br />
Zaladobas, Tumca faqtia, rom<br />
Cven gareT ver gavdivarT...<br />
_ ratom gaxda saWiro kvireulis<br />
gakeTeba ivnisSi? rogor mim-<br />
dinareobs kvireulis samzadisi<br />
da rogori iqneba pirveli<br />
qarTuli praidi? Tqven mier<br />
`19 maiss gamarTulma Sualedurma arCevnebma<br />
naTlad aCvena, rom mxolod siZulvilsa da<br />
homofobiaze agebul saarCevno kampanias<br />
warmateba ar moaqvs! `lgbtq~ adamianebis Cagvra<br />
da gandevna sajaro sivrceebidan ar agvarebs<br />
im gamowvevebs, ris winaSec saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis didi umravlesoba dgas~<br />
gavrcelebul gancxadebaSi weria,<br />
rom es ar iqneba sazeimo msv-<br />
leloba.<br />
_ iqidan gamomdinare, rom bolo<br />
ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
„lgbtq” adamianebs ar gveZleoda<br />
Tavisuflad Sekrebisa da manifestaciiT<br />
sargeblobis ufleba,<br />
radgan sapatriarqom ojaxis siwmindis<br />
dRe daawesa da xelovnurad<br />
gamogvdevna sajaro sivrcidan...<br />
yovel 17 maiss mudmivi<br />
dapirispirebis sagani iyo, vin<br />
romel adgils daikavebda am<br />
dRes, amitom aqtivistebis nawilma<br />
gadavwyviteT, ivnisSi gagveke-<br />
Tebina praidis kvireuli. kvireuli<br />
Sedgeba sami mTavari RonisZiebisgan:<br />
es aris saerTaSoriso<br />
konferencia, socialuri Teatri<br />
da Rirsebis marSi... Rirsebis mar-<br />
Si ar iqneba sazeimo da karnavalis<br />
saxiT warmodgenili, es iqneba,<br />
ZiriTadad, politikuri mesijebiT<br />
datvirTuli saprotesto<br />
xasiaTis msvleloba. Cveni mizania,<br />
„lgbtq” adamianebs saSualeba<br />
mogveces, rom visargebloT Sekrebisa<br />
da manifestaciis uflebiT,<br />
rac Cveni konstituciuri uflebaa,<br />
romliTac ver vsargeblobT<br />
bolo ramdenime welia. ratom<br />
davaanonseT 4 TviT adre kvreuli?<br />
imitom, rom sazogadoebis<br />
garkveul jgufs, romelic neitralurad<br />
aris ganwyobili, mivawodoT<br />
swori informacia, ra aris<br />
praidi, ra formiT tardeba igi da<br />
a. S.<br />
_ Tumca socialur qselSi<br />
garkveuli jgufebisgan muqaris<br />
Semcvleli gancxadebebi keTde-<br />
ba. usafTxoebis ra garantiebi<br />
miiReT saxelmwifos mxridan?<br />
_ es adamianebi arian marginaluri<br />
jgufebi, ruseTis interesebis<br />
gamtareblebi Cvens qveyana-<br />
Si. maT ukve gasca sazogadobam<br />
sakadrisi pasuxi. aseve pasuxs gascems<br />
sandro bregaZes... Cven vnaxeT<br />
bolo periodSi mis mier organizebul<br />
aqciebze, mcire raodenobis<br />
adamianebi gamodian, radgan<br />
xalxi xvdeba, rom homofobiiT da<br />
adamianebis CagvriT sakuTar<br />
mdgomarebas ver gaiumjobesebs!<br />
sandro bregaZe adamianebs Zaladobisken<br />
mouwodebs, daCagron da<br />
iZaladon meore jgufze, rac,<br />
bunebrivia, ver agvarebs mosaxleobis<br />
umravlesobis problemebs: es<br />
aris siRaribe da umuSevroba. is<br />
cdilobs, rom gadafaros es problemebi.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi Sss-s roli<br />
umniSnvelovanesia, maT unda<br />
gaataron efeqtiani RonisZiebebi,<br />
gasakuTrebiT praidis wina periodSi.<br />
yovel sajarod dafiqsirebul<br />
da gamoTqmul muqaraze maT<br />
unda hqondeT adekvaturi reagireba,<br />
raTa maTi Zaladobrivi<br />
mowodebebi da qmedebebi ar waxalisdes.<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saminitrosTan<br />
mimdinareobs molaparakebebi.<br />
is amjerad usafrTxoebis<br />
gegmaze muSaobs. vfiqrob, Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa saminitro yvelafers<br />
gaakeTebs, rom Rirsebis mar-<br />
Sis TiToeuli monawilis usafrTxoeba<br />
daculi iyos.<br />
_ Tumca usafrTxoebis Tval-<br />
sazrisiT riskebic arsebobs...<br />
_ ra Tqma unda! swored amitom,<br />
jer kidev, aqtiurad mimdinareobs<br />
Ss saministrosTan molaparakebebi.<br />
Cven movismineT mamuka<br />
baxtaZis gancxadeba, aseve mTavrobis<br />
sxva warmomadgenlebisgan,<br />
rom Sinagan saqmeTa saministro da<br />
saqarTvelos mTavroba yvelafers<br />
gaakeTebs da akeTebs, rom „lgbtq”<br />
adamianebis Sekrebisa da manifestaciis<br />
ufleba daculi iyos, xolo<br />
Cveni usafrTxoeba _ maqsimalurad<br />
garantirebuli. bolo ramdenime<br />
welia, aqtiurad viyavi<br />
CarTuli 17 maisis organizebaSi<br />
da SemiZlia vTqva, „Tbilisi praidis”<br />
usafrTxoebis gegmaze muSaoba<br />
daiwyo, jer kidev, 2018 wels.<br />
daanonsebamde ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />
sakmaod aqtiurad<br />
vmuSaobdiT da damoukidebeli<br />
samoqmedo gegmac gvaqvs _ vgulisxmob<br />
usafrTxoebis gegmas, sadac<br />
met-naklebad yvela riski<br />
gaTvlilia. aseTi mobilizacia da<br />
momzadeba usafrTxoebis kuTxiT<br />
aqamde ar maxsovs. organizebis<br />
sakmaod mdidari gamocdileba<br />
gvaqvs. swored amitom gavwieT<br />
„Tbilisi praidis” daanonsebamde<br />
didi Sroma. samoqmedo gegmas<br />
mivyvebiT da amasTanave daviwyeT<br />
Sss-sTan molaprakebebi, romelic<br />
jer ar dasrulebula da, bunebrivia,<br />
grZeldeba.<br />
_ Zalian didi interesi arsebobs,<br />
Tu sad gaimarTeba „Rirse-<br />
bis marSis” msvleloba...<br />
_ jerjerobiT cnobili ar<br />
iqneba, Tu sad gaimarTeba Rirsebis<br />
marSi... es ar iqneba rusTavelis<br />
gamziri, Tumca davadastureb,<br />
rom Rirsebis marSi iqneba<br />
Tbilisis centralur gamzirze.<br />
amis Sesaxeb informacias uaxloes<br />
momavalSi ar gavavrcelebT.<br />
cnobisTvis: 1969 wlis ivnisSi<br />
amerikaSi „stounvolis” ajanyeba<br />
daiwyo. quCaSi gamosuli geebis,<br />
lesboselebis, transgenderebisa<br />
da biseqsualebis spontanuri<br />
mrisxaneba „lgbt” uflebebisTvis<br />
brZolis fundamenti gaxda mTel<br />
msoflioSi. „stounvolis” janyidan<br />
erTi wlis aRsaniSnavad, 1970<br />
wlis 28 ivniss, msoflioSi pirveli<br />
praidi gaimarTa. praidis aRniSvna<br />
droTa ganmavlobaSi amerikis<br />
TiTqmis yvela did qalaqSi<br />
daiwyo. 1999 wlis 11 ivniss, aSS-is<br />
maSindelma prezidentma bil klintonma,<br />
ivnisi praidis Tved oficialurad<br />
gamoacxada. dRes praidi<br />
yvela kontinentze, aTobiT<br />
qveyanaSi aRiniSneba. iq, sadac homofobiuri<br />
ganwyobebi naklebia,<br />
praidma karnavaluri, gasarTobi,<br />
komerciuli da turistuli datvirTva<br />
SeiZina, risTvisac organizatorebs<br />
„politikuri fesvebis<br />
daviwyebisTvis” akritikeben kidec,<br />
Tumca sxvadasxva qveyanaSi praidi<br />
adgilobriv konteqsts moergo<br />
da RonisZiebis mTavari saTqmeli<br />
kvlav uflebebisTvis brZolaa.<br />
aTobiT qveyanas wels pirvelad<br />
saqarTveloc SeuerTdeba.<br />
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skandaluri finansuri piramida<br />
gasuli wlis aprilis dasawyis-<br />
giorgi abaSiZe<br />
Si gavrcelda informacia, rom<br />
gorSi safinanso kompania „evrok-<br />
reditis” damfuZnebeli daakaves. maSin goris saTemo radio<br />
„mozaika” imasac iuwyeboda, rom qeTevan yayitaSvils sasamarT-<br />
lom 2-Tviani winaswari patimroba Seufarda.<br />
„yayitaSvili finansTa saministros<br />
sagamoZiebo samsaxurma<br />
daakava da 182-e muxlis mixedviT<br />
wauyena brali, rac Tanxebis miTvisebas<br />
gulisxmobs. saqmis ganxilva<br />
sasamarTlom ukve daiwyo.<br />
„evrokreditSi” finansuri<br />
krizisi 2016 wlis dekemberSi, safinanso<br />
kompania „saqarTvelos”<br />
gakotrebis Semdeg daiwyo. am<br />
faqtma meanabreebSi kompaniis mimarT<br />
undobloba gamoiwvia da<br />
ramdenime aTeulma adamianma „evrokreditidan”<br />
Tanxis gatana erTdroulad<br />
moisurva da dazaralebulebis<br />
umravlesobam samarTlebrivi<br />
dava maSinve daiwyo.<br />
radio „mozaika” braldebuls<br />
dakavebamde 2 TviT adre esaubra.<br />
qeTevan yayitaSvili maSin mokvlevis<br />
dasrulebasa da dokumentaciis<br />
Cabarebas elodeboda, ris<br />
Semdegac is dazaralebulebis dakmayofilebas<br />
etapobrivad gegmavda.<br />
am mizniT man gorSi, samefos<br />
quCaze, ofisic gaxsna. meanabreebis<br />
nawili misi dakavebis momxre<br />
ar iyo da Tanxebis dabrunebas<br />
elodeboda”, _ iuwyeboda 2018<br />
wlis aprilSi radio „mozaika”.<br />
bolo wlebSi finansuri problemebi<br />
araerT safinanso kompanias<br />
Seeqmna da am fonze gamonaklisi<br />
arc „evrokrediti” unda yofiliyo,<br />
magram dazaralebulTa<br />
nawili, romelic „qronika+”-s<br />
daukavSirda, eWvobs, rom TaRli-<br />
Turi sqemis msxverpli gaxda.<br />
amasTan, erT-erTi qalbatoni,<br />
romelmac inkognitod darCena<br />
isurva da romelTan interviusac,<br />
principSi, ucvlelad gTavazobT,<br />
yuradRebas amaxvilebs „evrokretis”<br />
gavlenian mfarvelebze da<br />
gveubneba, rom qeTevan yayitaSvils,<br />
savaraudod, susis ufrosis<br />
yofili moadgile, soso gogaSvili<br />
„kriSavda”. amis gamo yayitaSvils<br />
SedarebiT msubuqi sasjeli<br />
misces da arc dazaralebulTa<br />
davalianebis anazRaureba daakisres.<br />
aqve sainteresoa, rom „evrokreditis”<br />
erT-erTma meanabrem<br />
Tavi moikla, Tumca, rogorc<br />
„qronika+”-is respondenti gveubneba,<br />
yayitaSvils arc TviTmkvlelobamde<br />
miyvanis muxliT wauyenes<br />
brali, rac, saboloo jam-<br />
Si, amZafrebs eWvs, rom mas mfarvelebi<br />
hyavs.<br />
„evrokreditis” dazaralebu-<br />
li meanabre qalbatoni:<br />
_ minda, rom inkognitod<br />
davrCe da ar SeiZleba?<br />
_ ki batono, araa problema,<br />
Tumca detalurad miambeT, ra<br />
SegemTxvaT?<br />
_ gorSi Sps „evrokrediti” mu-<br />
Saobda da misi erT-erTi meanabre<br />
var. 2016 wlis dekembridan am kompanias<br />
krizisi daewyo da davzaraldiT.<br />
_ anu „evrokreditSi” Tanxa<br />
gqondaT Setanili?<br />
_ diax, Tanxa me da, daaxloebiT,<br />
samasze met adamians gvqonda<br />
Setanili.<br />
_ „evrokreditSi” piradad<br />
Tqven Tanxa rodis SeitaneT?<br />
_ 2013-Si, 2014-Si, anu etapobrivad<br />
Semqonda.<br />
_ sul ra odenobis Tanxa Sei-<br />
taneT?<br />
_ piradad Cemi Tanxa 12 500<br />
dolaria.<br />
_ Tavidanve upiratesoba am<br />
Sps-s ratom mianiWeT da ara _<br />
banks?<br />
_ cuds ver vityvi: es qalbatoni<br />
kargad muSaobda. iq molare<br />
Cemi megobari iyo da rekomendacia<br />
man gauwia. radgan Cemi axlobeli<br />
iyo, raRacnairad, mivende.<br />
_ „evrokreditisgan” rame<br />
sargebeli gqondaT?<br />
_ ki, gvqonda.<br />
_ konkretulad?<br />
_ xelSekruleba mogvces. am<br />
qalbatons samxedro baraTebi<br />
hqonda, anu samxedroebTan hqonda<br />
xelSekruleba dadebuli...<br />
pirvel etapze aseve oqros lombardi<br />
da manqanebis lizingic<br />
hqonda. hoda, muSaobda _ dagvianeba<br />
ar yofila.<br />
_ anu Tqveni Ziri Tanxis san-<br />
acvlod<br />
„evrokreditisgan”,<br />
yovelTviurad, procents iReb-<br />
diT?<br />
_ diax. zogi 3%-s iRebda, zogi<br />
_ 2,5-%s, zogic _ 5%-s. visac didi<br />
Tanxa hqonda, is cota nakleb<br />
procents iRebda.<br />
_ Tqveni Ziri Tanxa rodis<br />
unda dagebrunebinaT?<br />
_ xelSekrulebis vadis gasvlisTanave,<br />
Tumca SegveZlo, xelSekruleba<br />
Cveni survilisamebr<br />
gagvegrZelebina.<br />
_ xelSekruleba ramdenxniani<br />
iyo?<br />
_ zogs eqvsTviani hqonda, zogs<br />
_ aTTviani. magaliTad, Cemi erTerTi<br />
xelSekruleba aTTviani iyo.<br />
_ „evrokreditTan” xelSek-<br />
ruleba ramdenjer gaagrZeleT?<br />
_ ase ar maxsovs, magram orsamjer<br />
gavagrZele. iciT, rogor<br />
iyo? _ visac fuli Sehqonda,<br />
kidec gamohqonda, anu Tanxis dabrunebis<br />
problema ar iyo.<br />
_ aba, mere ra moxda?<br />
_ problema 2016 wlis bolos<br />
gaCnda.<br />
_ anu verc procenti miiReT<br />
da Ziri Tanxis dabrunebazec<br />
uari giTxres?<br />
_ diax, Cemi Tanxa rom moviTxove,<br />
am qalbatonma veRar momca.<br />
zogs xelSekruleba dekemberSi<br />
daumTavrda, magram Tavisi fuli<br />
ver miiRo, Tumca es qalbatoni<br />
Tanxis aRebas mainc agrZelebda.<br />
_ es qalbatoni vin iyo?<br />
_ qeTevan yayitaSvili, romelic<br />
axla dapatimrebulia da 8<br />
weli aqvs misjili.<br />
_ Tu dapatimrebulia da<br />
`organoebSi momuSaveebisgan xma<br />
gamovida, rom gogaSvili `kriSavda~<br />
sasjels ixdis, raRas apro-<br />
testebT?<br />
_ am axalgazrda qals viRac<br />
SeuCnda. TviTon es kaci ase ambobda,<br />
rom TanamSromeli iyo, anu ambobda,<br />
susSi vmuSaobo, magram Cven<br />
ver davadgineT, sinamdvileSi sad<br />
muSaobda.<br />
mokled, mas Semdeg, rac es kaci<br />
gamoCnda, qoneba sul masze aforma<br />
da aforma. Tu Cveulebrivi TanamSromeli<br />
iyo, amden qonebas namdvilad<br />
ver SeiZenda. gorSi erTi<br />
didi saxlia, oTxsarTuliani,<br />
romelic jer am qalis dedis saxelze<br />
iyo, mere ki, ratomRac, am<br />
kacs gadauforma. amas garda, TbilisSi<br />
„dirsis kompleqsSic” aqvs<br />
bina. dokumentaciiT 2016-Si sofelSi<br />
miwebic SeiZina, aseve bina _<br />
baTumSi. amis garda, manqanebi...<br />
sxvaTa Soris, „infiniti” mere saswrafod<br />
gayides... misi Svilic, rogorc<br />
vici, policiaSi muSaobda,<br />
Tan sul policielebi mohyavda _<br />
aq restorani „naWarmagevia” da<br />
xalxi xedavda, rom iq aqeifebda.<br />
_ imis Tqma gindaT, rom<br />
„evrokreditis”<br />
mesakuTres<br />
mfarvelebi hyavda?<br />
_ ki, ki, hyavda. mere, rogorc<br />
organoebSi momuSaveebisgan gamovida<br />
xma, ioseb gogaSvili iyo<br />
mfarveli. raRac momentSi mRebriSvilic<br />
iyo naxsenebi _ ai, is,<br />
Ss ministri rom gvyavda. SeiZleba,<br />
orive mfarvelobda, magram<br />
didi aqcenti ufro am gogaSvilze<br />
iyo, rom eg „kriSavda”.<br />
_ Tqven rogor ggoniaT,<br />
„evrokreditidan” wili gogaS-<br />
vilTan midioda?<br />
_ albaT. am saqmes ufro jgufuri<br />
kvalifikacia unda hqonoda.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, am qals erT-erTi<br />
bina, ratomRac, ar dauyadaRes,<br />
magram kacma ar icis, gorSi, rusTavis<br />
6-Si gaformebuli bina ratom<br />
ar dauyadaRes?<br />
es ufro TaRliTuri sqema iyo<br />
da jgufuri kvalifikacia unda<br />
miniWeboda _ am kacze amdeni bina<br />
iyo gadaformebuli. kacma ar<br />
icis, amdeni qoneba ucbad saidan<br />
gauCnda.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, 2014 Tu 2015<br />
wels, zustad ar maxsovs, korpusis<br />
mSenebloba daiwyo, oRond<br />
sxva kompania Seqmna, romelsac<br />
„evroplusi” erqva. es korpusi<br />
dasamTavrebelia da masTan dakav-<br />
SirebiTac didi garCevebia.<br />
_ Tu am qalbatons gogaSvili<br />
mfarvelobda, romelic maSin su-<br />
`am axalgazrda qals viRac SeuCnda. TviTon es<br />
kaci ase ambobda, rom TanamSromeli iyo, anu<br />
ambobda, susSi vmuSaobo, magram Cven ver<br />
davadgineT, sinamdvileSi sad muSaobda.<br />
mokled, mas Semdeg, rac es kaci gamoCnda,<br />
qoneba sul masze aforma da aforma~<br />
sis ufrosis moadgile iyo, Tqveni<br />
azriT, „evrokreditis” mflobels<br />
problemebi ratomRa Seeqm-<br />
na?<br />
_ aSkarad rom viRac mfarvelobda,<br />
gasagebia... Cvens erT-erT<br />
dazaralebuls, romelmac mere<br />
interviu „rusTavi 2-sac” misca,<br />
es kaci aSantaJebda.<br />
_ vin kaci aSantaJebda, gogaS-<br />
vili?<br />
_ ara, am qeTinos megobari.<br />
_ ver gavige, soso gogaSvili<br />
ra SuaSia?<br />
_ gogaSvili im SuaSia, rom qe-<br />
Tinos saqme Zalian gauadvilda,<br />
anu ufro mZime muxlebi udgeboda.<br />
erTma dazaralebulma, mevlud<br />
maneliZem, Tavi moikla da<br />
TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanis muxlic<br />
udgeboda, magram es saqmec<br />
Caifarcxa. kacma Tqva, rom aSantaJebdnen<br />
da mesijebic aCvena da<br />
Tu aravin mfarvelobda, maSin qe-<br />
Tinos megobari xom unda daeWiraT?<br />
sxvaTa Soris, am Temas ma-<br />
Sin akaki gogiCaiSvili aSuqebda.<br />
qeTinos megobris moyvarec yofili<br />
TanamSromelia, romelic,<br />
mgoni, narkotikebze gamouSves da<br />
am xalxis SantaJsa da daSinebaSi<br />
isic CarTuli iyo, _ qeTinos<br />
fuls ratom sTxovTo.<br />
_ Tqvenc xom ar gaSinebdnen?<br />
_ ara.<br />
_ maSin inkognitod darCena<br />
ratom isurveT?<br />
_ piradad me aravin maSantaJebda,<br />
magram roca vismen, rom es<br />
kaci aseT raRacebs akeTebda, simarTle<br />
giTxraT, meSinia. Cems<br />
adgilze Tqvenc rom iyoT, albaT,<br />
SegeSindebodaT.<br />
_ asea Tu ise, am ambis gaxmaureba<br />
mainc gadawyviteT da dag-<br />
vikavSirdiT, Tumca vidre Cven<br />
dagvikavSirdebodiT, gancxadeba,<br />
rogorc vici, prokuraturaSi<br />
SeitaneT, ara?<br />
_ ki, SevitaneT, rom es jgufuri<br />
danaSauli iyo... rogorc vici,<br />
qeTinosa da am kacs Soris garigeba<br />
iyo, qeTino ar „CauSvebda”,<br />
rom araoficialuri mewile iyo.<br />
arc Svils daiWerdnen, romelic<br />
direqtori iyo da Cvens saqmeze<br />
pasuxi masac unda ego.<br />
_ „evrokreditis” mflobels<br />
sasamarTlom meanabreebis zara-<br />
lis anazRaureba ar daakisra?<br />
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da `evrokreditis~ saqme<br />
_ dazaralebulebis statusi ki<br />
mogvaniWes, magram Signidan erTiori<br />
adamiani iseT raRacas akeTebda,<br />
rom advokatis ayvanis saSualeba<br />
ar mogvces, anu erTi piri<br />
ar gvqonda da amasobaSi dro gavida.<br />
mere advokati aviyvaneT da<br />
rogorc man agvixsna, Cven zaralis<br />
anazRaureba qeTinosTvis maSinve<br />
unda dagvekisrebina, sanam ganaCeni<br />
dadgeboda. mindoda, rom sisxlis<br />
samarTlis saqmis advokati<br />
gvyoloda, raTa Cveni interesi<br />
daecva, magram es ver moxerxda.<br />
saerTod, marto rom ibrZvi,<br />
Zalian rTulia, rom vinmes rame<br />
gaagebino. hoda, mere advokati<br />
samoqalaqoTi aviyvaneT.<br />
_ dRes Tqveni advokati vin<br />
aris?<br />
_ ori advokati gvyavs: aleqsi<br />
da iamze mariamiZeebi, mgoni, biZaSvilebi<br />
arian. am kacma „evrokredits”<br />
uCivla, magram saCivari, albaT,<br />
TviTon qeTevanze unda yofiliyo<br />
dawerili. ar vici, es Segnebulad<br />
gaakeTa Tu egona, rom<br />
meti Sansi hqonda, kompaniidan<br />
fuls amoiRebda...<br />
_ amJamad Tqveni saqme ra<br />
etapzea da ras iTxovT?<br />
_ Cven viTxovT: es kaci ratom<br />
ar aris dasjili amdeni xalxis<br />
SantaJis gamo? aseve finansur<br />
policiaSi Cvenebebi maszec iyo,<br />
magram pasuxi ratom ar ago? aseve<br />
qeTinom ratom ar ago pasuxi<br />
meanabris TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanamde?<br />
qeTinos sasjelSi yvelaferi<br />
gamartivebulad moxda<br />
da, rogorc axla gavige, gabrazebulia<br />
da cixidan uTvlis, xom<br />
Sempirdi, erT weliwadSi gamogiyvano?<br />
axla uTqvams, rom 2020 wlisTvis<br />
arCevnebze gamogiyvano.<br />
_ am xalxs, Tqveni azriT,<br />
dResac gogaSvili mfarvelobs?<br />
_ ar vici, vin mfarvelobs, magram<br />
am kacs amdeni qoneba saidan<br />
aqvs?<br />
_ Tavs usamarTlobis msxver-<br />
plad miiCnevT?<br />
_ ki, ki... CaTvaleT, rom yvela<br />
dazaralebulis saxeliT gelaparakebiT.<br />
_ Tqveni raionis maJoritars<br />
an xelisuflebis sxva warmomadgenels<br />
Tu SexvedrixarT da mis-<br />
Tvis daxmareba giTxoviaT?<br />
_ ara, Tumca werili baxtaZesac<br />
gavugzavneT da TadumaZe mTavar<br />
prokurorad dainiSna Tu ara,<br />
masac mivmarTeT. aseve vici, rom<br />
werili beseliasTanac iyo Sesuli.<br />
saia-Si viyaviT da iq iuristma<br />
gviTxra, es saqme ase ar unda<br />
damTavrebuliyo da Zieba unda<br />
gagrZelebuliyo, fuli _ es 6<br />
milioni sad wavidao? saia-Si isic<br />
gviTxres, rom ganaCeniT qeTinos<br />
valis gadaxdac unda dakisreboda,<br />
magram es sasamarTlom ar gaakeTa<br />
da amitom Civili ukve samoqalaqoTi<br />
mogviwia.<br />
_ imedi gaqvT, rom Tqvens<br />
Tanxas daibrunebT?<br />
_ ara, ar maqvs imitom, rom am<br />
qalis saxelze, faqtobrivad, araferia<br />
da Tu rame qoneba iyo, gadaformebulia.<br />
ai, magaliTad,<br />
gauTxovari deida hyavs da imazea<br />
gadaformebuli.<br />
`gogaSvili im SuaSia, rom qeTinos saqme Zalian<br />
gauadvilda, anu ufro mZime muxlebi udgeboda.<br />
erTma dazaralebulma, mevlud maneliZem, Tavi<br />
moikla da TviTmkvlelobamde miyvanis muxlic<br />
udgeboda, magram es saqmec Caifarcxa~<br />
sxvaTa Soris, sanam finansuri<br />
movidoda, ofisidan TanamSromlebma<br />
dokumentacia gaitanes da,<br />
rogorc vici, finansur policia-<br />
Si ar aris naCvenebi, rom oqros<br />
lombardi da manqanebis lizingic<br />
hqonda.<br />
_ e. i., darwmunebuli xarT,<br />
rom „evrokreditis” mfarveli<br />
soso gogaSvilia?<br />
_ ase laparakobs xalxi da es<br />
Cemi mogonili xom ar aris?!<br />
***<br />
„qronika+~-s „evrokreditis”<br />
kidev erTi dazaralebuli<br />
meanabre socialuri qseliT<br />
daukavSirda:<br />
„is adamiani, mTeli im periodis<br />
ganmavlobaSi, rac „evrokreditis”<br />
meanabre viyavi, ar minaxavs. bolos,<br />
roca Cems fuls viTxovdi,<br />
qeTevan yayitaSvilTan mqonda kav-<br />
Siri, ofisSi mosuliyo, radgan iq<br />
momuSave xalxi pasuxs ver mcemda.<br />
am qalbatonma telefonSi yvirili<br />
daiwyo, SenTvis ar mcaliao<br />
da gamiTiSa.<br />
ramdenime wamSi ucxo nomeri<br />
mirekavs da mkiTxulobs, _ esa da<br />
es xaro? Cems gvars ambobs. me var,<br />
Tqven romeli xarT-meTqi? aleqsandre<br />
gogiaSvili gagigiao? _<br />
ara-meTqi. _ sada xaro? aqa da aqmeTqi,<br />
_ „evrokreditis” win videqi.<br />
_ or wuTSi mand var, damelodeo.<br />
_ meTqi, gelodebi.<br />
movida viRac or tipTan erTad<br />
da qeTevanis kabinetSi Semiyvana.<br />
iq ise daxvda xalxi, momuSave persona<br />
fexze wamoudga, _ batono<br />
alekoo. meTqi, vin aris? _ aba,<br />
gismen, ra xdebao, raRac Seuracxyofebi<br />
migiyenebia qalzeo...<br />
aseTi toni rom ver gauvida,<br />
mere gamosavals eZebda, _ Sen mar-<br />
Tali xar da fuli mogecemao,<br />
axla manqana hyavs Cems biWs bazarze<br />
wayvanili, gavyidiT da mogcemTo.<br />
_ Sen saerTod vin xar, SenTan<br />
saqme arc maqvs da arc mqonia-meTqi.<br />
cota xanSi sportulebiT Semovida<br />
es qeTevani, romelmac<br />
telefonze saubrisas miTxra,<br />
TbilisSi var dabarebuli, prokuraturaSi,<br />
saxli gamiZarcves, magis<br />
Taobaze da Seni nervebi ar<br />
maqvso... da iq ar Semovida?<br />
mec Zmakacebi maxldnen. hoda,<br />
aseTi saubari rom wavida, Cemi Zmakaci<br />
gareT gamosula da biWebTan<br />
daurekavs TbilisSi. es rom gaiges,<br />
Tbilisidan xalxi modiso, is<br />
aleqsandre gogiaSvili ise aorTqlda,<br />
verc ki davinaxe da aqedan<br />
urekavdnen Cumad, _ ar moxvide,<br />
aq Tbilisidan movidneno...<br />
erTi sityviT, Cemi daSineba undoda,<br />
rac ar gamouvida...<br />
mere es qalbatoni binas mTavazobda<br />
cxinvalis cxra nomerSi,<br />
korpusebs aSenebda da iq. _ ar minda,<br />
Cemi fuli momeci-meTqi, rac<br />
me ofliT da tyviis qveS yofnis<br />
dros Sevagrove, meti araferi<br />
minda, Cemi naSromi minda, zedmeti<br />
ara-meTqi. ambobda, mogcemo,<br />
magram ver maZlevda, matyuebda,<br />
„saqarTvelos bankidan” gamomaqvs<br />
sesxi da egreve mogcemo, zars<br />
velodebio. naxevar milionze<br />
saubrobda, magram magas ise hqonda<br />
saqme ukve, romeli banki miscemda<br />
fuls?<br />
sabolood, ise daiZaba saubari,<br />
meubneba, _ Sen ggonia, sabuTi gi-<br />
Wiravso? kontraqtze Tqva, rac<br />
dadebuli gvqonda, _ eg faratina<br />
furceli ggonia sabuTio? ras<br />
iTxovo?<br />
gadamria... roca CemiT verafers<br />
gavxdi, erTi advokati gavicani<br />
da imas miveci Cemi saqme. samoqalaqo<br />
sasamarTloSi SevitaneT<br />
da dRemde vibrZvi uSedegod”.<br />
***<br />
sxvaTa Soris, qeTevan yayitaSvilis<br />
dakavebamde „evrokreditis”<br />
saqmes prokuratura swavlobda.<br />
„mikrosafinanso organizacia<br />
„evrokreditis” meanabreebi, Tanxebis<br />
dabrunebis mizniT, amjerad<br />
prokuraturas mimarTaven. am gadawyvetilebamde<br />
isini mas Semdeg<br />
mividnen, rac individualuri sa-<br />
Civrebidan saTanado Sedegi ver<br />
miiRes.<br />
dazaralebulebis informaciiT,<br />
dekemberSi „evrokreditis”<br />
damfuZnebelma ofisis gaxsnaSi<br />
dazaralebulebs daxmareba sTxova<br />
da samefos quCaze, TiTqmis<br />
orwliani pauzis Semdeg, muSaoba<br />
isev ganaaxla, Tumca arc am me-<br />
Todma gaamarTla da, rogorc gavarkvieT,<br />
axali ofisi Tve-naxevarSi<br />
isev daxura.<br />
„procentebze aRar gvaqvs laparaki.<br />
mxolod im Tanxis dabrunebas<br />
viTxovT, rac SevitaneT.<br />
„evrokreditSi” 2016 wlis seqtemberSi<br />
2000 dolari Sevitane,<br />
romelzedac 1200 dolari danamati<br />
unda damricxvoda. ramdenime<br />
TveSi ki gavige, rom kompanias finansuri<br />
problemebi Seeqmna. rodesac<br />
mflobels davukavSirdi,<br />
Tanxebis anazRaurebas dagvpirda,<br />
magram dRemde araferi moumoqmedebia”,<br />
_ ganacxada erT-erTma<br />
dazaralebulma.<br />
dazaralebuli meanabreebi yvela<br />
damnaSavis dasjas iTxoven<br />
dazaralebuli meanabreebis<br />
uflebadamcvelebi saCivars amjerad<br />
prokuraturaSi Sesatanad<br />
amzadeben. advokatebis informaciiT,<br />
finansuri policiis mxridan<br />
damfuZneblebis mimarT aSkara<br />
lobireba ikveTeba, rac saqmis<br />
gaWianurebaSic vlindeba.<br />
droSi gawelili mokvleva gaxda<br />
mizezi, ramac dazaralebulebs<br />
kidev erTi saCivris dawera gadaawyvetina.<br />
„saqme gaCerebulia. finansuri<br />
policia damfuZneblebs lobirebs<br />
da amis Taobaze axal saCivars<br />
vamzadebT”, _ aRniSna erTerTma<br />
advokatma zaza gigaurma.<br />
„aSkarad Wianurdeba gamoZieba<br />
da am dromde gamouZiebeli ra<br />
aris?! bunebrivia, amasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT kiTxvebi da pretenziebi<br />
aqvT Cemi dacvis qveS myofebs. mokled,<br />
gamoZiebam ver daayena saSveli,<br />
rom gadawyvetileba miiRos.<br />
an Sewyvitos da Tqvas, rom aq danaSauli<br />
ar aris, an kidev gamoitanos<br />
dadgenileba braldebis Sesaxeb”,<br />
_ ganacxada nodar cincaZem.<br />
finansTa saministros sagamo-<br />
Ziebo samsaxuris informaciiT,<br />
„evrokreditis” saqmesTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT aqtiuri sagamoZiebo moqmedebebi<br />
mimdinareobs. am etapze<br />
sisxlis samarTlis devna aravis<br />
mimarT ar dawyebula. uwyeba sxva<br />
saxis konkretul ganmartebebs, am<br />
etapze, ar akeTebs.<br />
gasuli periodis msgavsad,<br />
qeTevan yayitaSvili meanabreebs<br />
amjeradac aimedebs, rom mas Semdeg,<br />
rac finansuri policia dokumentacias<br />
gadascems, kompaniisa<br />
da meanabreebis sasargeblod aqtiur<br />
muSaobas Seudgeba:<br />
„yvela angariSze, yvela raRac<br />
faseulobaze yadaRa madevs. verafers<br />
vakeTeb, romc mindodes.<br />
rogorc ki sabuTebi damibrundeba<br />
da situacia dalagdeba, albaT,<br />
sami Tve damWirdeba, amis Semdeg<br />
daviwyeb proporciulad Tanxebis<br />
dabrunebas. Cveni Tanxebi didi<br />
raodenobiT gasesxebuli gvaqvs<br />
da imaTac Semotana da gadaxda<br />
undaT, magram informacia ar gamaCnia,<br />
vis ramdeni aqvs vali. zogi<br />
qviTars iTxovs, zogi _ angariSis<br />
nomers. zepirad ver davuwer veravis<br />
verafers”, _<br />
SegaxsenebT: davis sagania 2<br />
milion-naxevar larze meti, romelic<br />
300-mde meanabrem „evrokredits”<br />
miaprocenta. aqedan 926<br />
aTasi dolari ramdenime dazaralebuls<br />
ukve daubrunes.<br />
„evrokreditSi” finansuri krizisi<br />
2016 wlis dekemberSi daiwyo.<br />
amis mizezi ki safinanso organizacia<br />
„saqarTveloSi” e. w. piramidis<br />
CamoSla gaxda, risi gaxmaurebis<br />
Semdegac „evrokreditis” meanabreebma<br />
sakuTari Tanxebis ukan<br />
dabruneba moiTxoves, aman ki kompania<br />
gakotrebamde miiyvana”, _ es<br />
informacia radio „mozaikam” 2018<br />
wlis ianvarSi gaavrcela, ori<br />
Tvis Semdeg ki, rogorc statiis<br />
dasawyisSi aRvniSneT, qeTevan yayitaSvili<br />
daapatimres.<br />
realurad mfarvelobda Tu<br />
ara „evrokreditis” damfuZnebels<br />
susis ufrosis yofili moadgile<br />
soso gogaSvili, _ es gamoZiebam<br />
unda daadginos, magram rogorc<br />
dazaralebulebi hyvebian, zemo<br />
eSelonebidan zustad aseTi xmebi<br />
gamovida. ase rom, axla jeri<br />
gamoZiebazea _ ramdenime aseul<br />
adamians kiTxvebze pasuxi sagamo-<br />
Ziebo uwyebam unda gasces!<br />
17
vato gelaSvilis gverdi<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
„qarTuli emigraciis, demografiuli da ekonomikuri centri”<br />
sajaro reestrma 2019 wlis 13 Tebervals daaregistrira.<br />
reestris amonaweris mixedviT organizacia quTaisSi mde-<br />
bareobs. misi aRmasrulebeli direqtori nunu SalamberiZea,<br />
xolo aRmasrulebeli sabWos wevrebi arian: malxaz lomsaZe,<br />
gela xarWamaZe da nunu SalamberiZe. centris mmarTvelobis<br />
organoa damfuZnebelTa saerTo kreba.<br />
ras warmoadgens es organiza-<br />
cia da ratom miipyro man Cveni<br />
yuradReba?<br />
emzar kvicianma Tebervlis<br />
dasawyisSi daaanonsa, rom fondis<br />
Seqmnas apirebda, romelSic fuls<br />
emigrantebi Caricxaven da axali<br />
ojaxebis gaZlierebas Seuwyoben<br />
xels.<br />
„ai, xom arian Seyvarebulebi,<br />
romlebic ver bedaven ojaxis Seqmnas,<br />
radgan ar aqvT saSualeba.<br />
iqnebian agentebi, ivlian, gaigeben,<br />
sad arian aseTi Seyvarebulebi,<br />
aRricxvaze aiyvanen da iqneba daxmareba<br />
magaTi... dRes demografiulad<br />
yvelaze metad visac uWirs,<br />
qarTvelebi arian. Tvals xom ar<br />
davxuWavT?! es iqneba qarTvelTa<br />
jgufi, romelic qarTvelebs<br />
qarTuli ojaxebis SeqmnaSi daexmareba”,<br />
– ganacxada deputatma.<br />
TavisTavad, fondis aRmasrulebeli<br />
sabWos wevrebis vinaoba<br />
saintereso unda iyos sazogadoebisTvis<br />
da amitom gadavwyviteT<br />
warmogvedgina, ras akeTeben da sad<br />
moRvaweoben isini.<br />
2016 wels malxaz lomsaZem da<br />
gela xarWamaZem daafuZnes kompania<br />
„rekonstruqcia XXI”.<br />
2017 wels kompaniis saxelze fiqsirdeba<br />
ori saxelmwifo Sesyidva:<br />
1. eleqtronuli tenderis sa-<br />
SualebiT q. TbilisSi krwanisis<br />
raionis teritoriaze dazianebul<br />
Senoba-nagebobebze droebiTi winmswreb-damzRvevi<br />
RonisZiebebis Catarebis,<br />
demontaJisa da sxva Tanmdevi<br />
samuSaoebis saxelmwifo Sesyidva.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 133,983 lari<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
10.01.2017-28.02.2018;<br />
2. naZaladevis raionis infrastruqturis<br />
mowesrigebis samuSaoebis<br />
saxelmwifo Sesyidva.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 154,000 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
20.04.2017-31.01.2019.<br />
arc erTi valdebuleba ar Sesrulebula.<br />
amave wels dafuZnebulia Sps<br />
„rekonstruqcia XXI-is filiali/<br />
warmomadgenloba”:<br />
1. xelvaCauris municipalitet-<br />
Si s/gza „feria-eseliZeebidevaZeebi”<br />
– km0+150 monakveTze<br />
sayrdeni kedlis mowyoba;<br />
Rirebuleba _ 9,494 lari<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
15.11.2016-31.01.2017<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
2. q. baTumSi, xulos q. #10-Si<br />
mdebare kulturuli memkvidreobis<br />
Zeglis Sida saremonto samuSaoebi<br />
(ezo da veranda).<br />
Rirebuleba _ 24,800 lari<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
3. Tbilisis vagonebis saremonto<br />
depos saurike saamqros saxuravis<br />
SekeTebis samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 65,838 lari<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
23.02.2018-31.12.2018.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
4. a(a)ip sarkinigzo transportis<br />
kolejis teritoriis keTilmowyobis-moasfaltebis<br />
samuSaoebis<br />
Sesyidva<br />
Rirebuleba _ 165,982 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
28.02.2018-30.07.2018.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
5. q. borjomSi mesxeTis quCidan<br />
robaqiZis quCaze gadasasvleli<br />
xidis savali nawilis reabilit-<br />
18<br />
aciis samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 51,700.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
12.03.2018-30.06.2018.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
6. saqarTvelos iusticiis<br />
saministros administraciuli Senobis<br />
(mdebare q. Tbilisi, gorgaslis<br />
q. #24 a -Si) SesasvlelSi arsebuli<br />
marmarilos kedlis (0, I da II<br />
sarTulebi) da gare ezos perimetrze<br />
granitis kedlebis rekonstruqciis<br />
samuSaoebi<br />
Rirebuleba _ 108,001 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
27.12.2016-31.05.2017.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba;<br />
7. axalcixis municipalitetis<br />
sofel uravelSi „uravelis” magistraluri<br />
milsadenis gadatanisa<br />
da masTan dakavSirebuli sareabilitacio<br />
samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 167.765.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
14.02.2018-15.08.2018.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba;<br />
8. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />
varZiisa da wyalaforeTis administraciul<br />
erTeulebSi sof. var-<br />
ZiaSi stiqiisgan dazianebuli Ci-<br />
CiliZeebis saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />
maCitaZeebisa da okribelaSvilebis<br />
saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />
sof. varZiaSi saniaRvre arxis<br />
mowyobis, sof. patara varZiaSi<br />
gzis sareabilitacio da sof. laxundaraSi<br />
gzis reabilitaciis samuSaoebis<br />
Sesyidva.<br />
197.900<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
22.06.2018-30.11.2018.<br />
5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />
2019 wlis 30 maisamde;<br />
9. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />
kicxisa da xidris administraciul<br />
erTeulebSi stiqiisagan dazianebuli<br />
miqiaSvilebis saubno gzis<br />
reabilitaciis, jimSiaSvilebis saubno<br />
gzis reabilitaciis, sof. borSi<br />
niqabaZeebis saubno gzis reabilitaciis,<br />
sof. xidarSi saniaRvre<br />
arxis mowyobisa da xid-bogiris<br />
mowyobis samuSaoebis Sesyidva.<br />
225,252.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
29.06.2018-30.11.2018.<br />
5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />
2019 wlis 30 maisamde;<br />
10. xaragaulis municipalitetis<br />
dabisa da wyalaforeTis administraciul<br />
erTeulebSi sofel laxundaraSi<br />
sasoflo gzisa da daba-<br />
Si quCebis/Cixebis, sayrdeni kedlebis<br />
mowyobisa da datborvis sawinaaRmdego<br />
samuSaoebis Sesyidva.<br />
410,940<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
10.07.2018-31.12.2018.<br />
5 cvlileba da vadis Secvla<br />
2019 wlis 30 maisamde.<br />
kompania 2018 wlis agvistodan<br />
2019 wlis agvistomde Seyvanilia<br />
Sav siaSi.<br />
da mesame kompania Sps „rekonstruqcia<br />
XXI _ mudmivi dawesebuleba”<br />
yvela xelSekruleba dadebulia<br />
(an dadebis stadiaSi) 2019<br />
wlis Tebervlis Semdeg.<br />
direqtori maia gogoberiSvilia,<br />
Tumca satendero dokumentaciaSi<br />
miTiTebulia, rom es kompania,<br />
uSualo kavSirSia „rekonstruqcia<br />
XXI-Tan” da samuSaoebis Sesrulebis<br />
procesSi misi teqnikis<br />
gamoyenebas gegmavs.<br />
elfosta samive kompanias erTi<br />
aqvs: lomsadze5@yandex.ru<br />
1. q. gardabanSi Sida gzebis (Tamar<br />
mefis, gamarjvebis, aSiSbilalis<br />
quCebi da qvemo kapanaxCis dasaxlebaSi<br />
misasvleli gza da Cixi),<br />
reabilitacia,<br />
Rirebuleba _ 1,705,109 lari<br />
(yvelaze maRali fasiT)<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
ra gegmebi aqvT emzar<br />
kvicianis partniorebs?<br />
01.05.2019-31.12.2021;<br />
2. q. baTumSi boni-gorodokis<br />
dasaxlebis quCebis: al. CxaiZis<br />
quCis (fexiT savali nawili erT<br />
mxares, jibeebi) da quCis gagrZelebis<br />
iaSvilis quCidan erisTavis<br />
quCamde, ioselianis, erisTvis Sesaxvevisa<br />
da II Cixis, a. noRaidelis,<br />
iaSvilis, kaikaciSvilis, iunkrebis,<br />
dadianisa da s. TayaiSvilis qu-<br />
Cebis sareabilitacio samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 1,715,000 lari.<br />
oqmi #35-4-is mixedviT, kompania<br />
da misi pretendenti diskvalificirebulebi<br />
arian dokumentaciis<br />
xarvezis gamo, magram oqmi<br />
#35-5-is mixedviT, gamarjvebulad<br />
gamovlenilia „rekonstruqcia XXI<br />
_ mudmivi dawesebuleba”;<br />
3. mestiis municipalitetSi<br />
Sida gzebis reabilitacia, 10 quCa;<br />
Rirebuleba _ 3,235,811 lari.<br />
4. qalaq zugdidis TabukaSvilis<br />
quCis 1,5 km-iani (dazustebuli<br />
sigrZe _ 1,372 km.) monakveTis<br />
sareabilitacio samuSaoebi.<br />
Sps „bilding grup 17"-s miRebuli<br />
aqvs diskvalifikacia teqnikuri<br />
dokumentaciis gamo.<br />
savaraudod, xelSekruleba gauformdeba<br />
kompania „rekonstruqcia<br />
XXI _ mudmiv dawesebulebas”,<br />
radgan sxva pretendenti tender-<br />
Si ar Cans.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 2,150,000 lari;<br />
5. q. borjomSi merab kostavas<br />
quCaze, mdinare borjomulaze<br />
saxide gadasasvlelis samSeneblos<br />
samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 735,000 lari.<br />
mimdinareobs xelSekrulebis<br />
momzadeba.<br />
samive CamoTvlili kompania<br />
warmoadgens filials 2016 wlis<br />
ivlisSi ruseTSi daregistrirebuli<br />
kompaniisa, romelic amave saxels<br />
atarebs da romlis direqtoric<br />
ekaterine lomsaZea.<br />
Tumca am jgufs ekuTvnis kidev<br />
ramdenime kompania, romelic aseve<br />
monawileobs tenderebSi.<br />
malxaz lomsaZis Sps „nikaremstrois<br />
filiali saqarTveloSi”<br />
moskovSi 2012 wels Seqmnili kompaniis<br />
filialia, magram es kompania<br />
ruseTSi ukve likvidirebulia.<br />
2016 wlis noembris monacemebiT<br />
aRniSnulia, rom kompanias davalianeba<br />
ericxeba, Tumca adgilmdebareobis<br />
gaurkvevlobis an qonebis<br />
arqonis gamo kompanias aravi-<br />
Tari pasuxismgebloba ar daekisra.<br />
saqarTveloSi sxva viTarebaa.<br />
kompania agrZelebs muSaobas da<br />
tenderebSi monawileobas.<br />
1. sofel axalsoflis, sofel<br />
Cabanosa da sofel naqalaqaris<br />
sabavSvo baRebis reabilitacia,<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
03.06.2016-15.10.2016<br />
Rirebuleba _ 364,064 lari.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
2. q. Tbilisis CuRureTis raionis<br />
teritoriaze sayrdeni kedlebis<br />
mowyobis samuSaoebis saxelmwifo<br />
Sesyidva.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
04.07.2016-31.12.2016.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 92,598 lari.<br />
Seusrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
3. q.baTumSi, g. brwyinvalis q.<br />
#54-Si Senobis gamagreba-gaZlierebisa<br />
da gamagrebis Semdeg pirveladi<br />
mdgomareobis (miSenebuli<br />
lojiebis) aRdgena.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 99,500 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
27.06.2016-24.11.2016.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
4. Cxorowyus municipalitetis<br />
sofel axuTSi md. zanaze saavtomobili<br />
xidis samSeneblo samuSaoebi.<br />
18 N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.
Rirebuleba _ 809,814 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
13.02.2018-17.01.2019.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
5. q. borjomSi Toris quCaze<br />
mdinare gujarulaze gadasasvleli<br />
xidisa da gzis reabilitacia.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 58,868 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
10.05.2018-31.12.2018.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
6. q. zestafonSi aRmaSeneblis q.<br />
#23-Si uSangi CxeiZis saxelobis<br />
saxelmwifo dramatuli Teatris<br />
mimdebared arsebuli centraluri<br />
moednis axleburi dagegmarebisa<br />
da sruli sarekonstruqcio samuSaoebis<br />
Sesyidva.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 635,951 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
30.08.2018-30.03.2019.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />
lomsaZis kidev erTi kompaniaa<br />
„grosinvest kapitali” (am SemTxvevaSic<br />
eleqtronuli fostis misamarTia<br />
lomsadze5@yandex.ru).<br />
kompaniis mflobelia Sps „grosinvest<br />
kapitali, ruseTis federacia”,<br />
(2011 weli)<br />
kompaniis Sesyidvebia:<br />
1. sof. cixisZiris wyalsadenze<br />
debetis gazrdis samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 120,000 lari.<br />
xelSekruleba ZalaSia:<br />
23.01.2017-31.12.2017.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />
Setanilia Sav siaSi (13.06.2018-<br />
30.05.2019);<br />
2. q. baTumis municipalitetis<br />
meria, lorTqifaniZis quCis monakveTis<br />
keTilmowyobis samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 191,984 lari.<br />
xelSekrulebis moqmedebis vadas<br />
gadacilebuli dReebi: 640;<br />
3. q. TbilisSi, amaRlebis quCa<br />
#32-Si mdebare Senobis kapitaluri<br />
SekeTebis samuSaoebi. xarj-<br />
TaRricxva.<br />
q. TbilisSi, l. asaTianis quCa<br />
#58-Si gruntis damWeri kedlis<br />
kapitaluri SekeTebis samuSaoebi;<br />
q. TbilisSi, Zm. zubalaSvilebis<br />
quCa #46-Si rkina-betonis sahaeros<br />
kapitaluri SekeTebis samuSaoebi;<br />
kojorSi, iunkerebis quCa #1-<br />
Si gruntis damWeri rkina-betonis<br />
kedlis kapitaluri SekeTebis samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 369,000 lari.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />
Setanilia Sav siaSi (22.01.2019-<br />
22.01.2020);<br />
4. Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino<br />
universitetis administraciuli<br />
korpusis me-8 sarTulis<br />
sarekonstruqcio samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 324,999 lari.<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
5. ssip „veteranebis saqmeTa saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxuris” administraciuli<br />
Senobisa da mimdebare teritoriis<br />
sareabilitacio da saremonto<br />
samuSaoebi.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 1,232,000 lari,<br />
Sesrulebuli xelSekruleba;<br />
6. delfinariumis Senobis saxuravis<br />
reabilitacia.<br />
Rirebuleba _ 128,700 lari.<br />
Seusrulebeli xelSekruleba.<br />
Setanilia Sav siaSi (12.04.2019-<br />
12.04.2020).<br />
lomsaZis kidev erTi rusuli<br />
kompania „nika” ruseTSi monawileobda<br />
49 saxelmwifo SesyidvaSi.<br />
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23 sasamarTlo procesSi<br />
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saqarTveloSi Sps „nika” dafuZn-<br />
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ilia lagvilava.<br />
Sps „maria” aseve ruseTSi dafuZnebuli<br />
kompaniaa. fiqsirdeba<br />
erTi saxelmwifo Sesyidva da 4<br />
sasamarTlo samarTlo saqme. aqedan 2-Si mo-<br />
pasuxe iyo, xolo 2-Si _ mesame<br />
piri.<br />
sayuradRebo informacia: 2017<br />
wlis 20 ivnisis informaciT, susis<br />
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sajaro moxele da kerZo kompaniebis<br />
xelmZRvanelebi daakava: Tiane-<br />
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yofili pirveli moadgile mamuli<br />
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samsaxuris mTavari specialisti<br />
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municipalitetis gamgeblis warmomadgeneli<br />
axalsoflis administraciul<br />
erTeulSi badri jimSitaSvili<br />
da naqalaqaris administraciul<br />
erTeulSi _ lia doreuli,<br />
Sps „razas” direqtoris movaleobis<br />
Semsrulebeli zaza CitiSvili<br />
da maT Soris iyo Sps „nikaremstrois<br />
filiali saqarTveloSi”,<br />
direqtori malxaz lomsaZe.<br />
informaciaSi vkiTxulobT:<br />
„gamoZiebam daadgina, rom mamuli<br />
mamulaSvilma, malxaz maTurelma,<br />
badri jimSitaSvilma da lia doreulma<br />
borotad gamoiyenes samsaxurebrivi<br />
uflebamosileba da<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom Sps „nikaremstrois<br />
filiali saqarTveloSi<br />
da Sps „razam” srulad ar Seasrules<br />
TianeTis municipalitetis<br />
gamgeobasTan dadebuli xelSekrulebiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli sabavSvo<br />
baRebis sareabilitaciosaremonto<br />
samuSaoebi, xeli moaweres<br />
saboloo Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis<br />
aqtebs (e. w. forma #2),<br />
riTac daadastures, TiTqosda samuSaoebi<br />
srulyofilad iyo Sesrulebuli.<br />
amasTan, TianeTis municipalitetis<br />
gamgeblis pirvel<br />
moadgiled muSaobis periodSi, mamuli<br />
mamulaSvilma, xeli moawera<br />
sabavSvo baRebis sareabilitacio<br />
samuSaoebis saboloo miReba-Cabarebis<br />
aqts, ris safuZvelzec moxda<br />
kontraqtori kompaniebisTvis<br />
xelSekrulebiT gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
Tanxebis srulad Caricxva.<br />
faqtobrivad, Sesrulebul samuSaoebsa<br />
da TianeTis municipalitetis<br />
gamgeobis mier gadaricxul<br />
Tanxebs Soris sxvaobam l. samxaraulis<br />
saxelobis sasamarTlo<br />
eqspertizis erovnuli biuros<br />
mier gacemuli daskvnis Tanaxmad,<br />
123 240 lari Seadgina.<br />
Tavis mxriv, Sps „nikaremstrois<br />
filiali saqarTveloSis” direqtori<br />
malxaz lomsaZe da Sps „razas”<br />
direqtoris movaleobis Semsrulebeli<br />
zaza CitiSvili saxelmwifos<br />
kuTvnil didi odenobiT<br />
Tanxebs winaswari SeTanxmebiT,<br />
TaRliTurad daeuflnen.<br />
amave saqmeze, Sesrulebul samuSaoebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, eqspertizis<br />
yalbi daskvnis gacemis faqtze,<br />
saqarTvelos ssk-is 370-e muxlis<br />
pirveli nawiliT, susis antikorufciuli<br />
saagentos TanamSromlebma<br />
sisxlis samarTlis pasuxisgebaSi<br />
misces Sps „ardas” eqspertebi:<br />
zaza endelaZe da badri miqaZe.<br />
eqspertizis aRniSnuli yalbi<br />
daskvna gaxda safuZveli, zemoxsenebuli<br />
kompaniebi TaRliTurad<br />
dauflebodnen saxelmwifos kuTvnil<br />
didi odenobiT Tanxebs”.<br />
gela xarWamaZe malxaz lomaZis<br />
biznespartnioria mis ramdenime<br />
kompaniaSi, xolo nunu SalamberZis<br />
kompaniebi gaxlavT: Sps „orbik<br />
grupi”, Sps „em-kvadrati” (gia beriZesTan<br />
erTad).<br />
rogorc xedavT, xuTi kompaniis<br />
saxelmwifo Sesyidvebidan 9<br />
xelSekruleba Seusrulebelia. da<br />
imis miuxedavad, rom zogierTi<br />
kompania Sav siaSia, biznesmenTa es<br />
jgufi sxva kompaniebiT kvlav agr-<br />
Zelebs tenderebSi monawileobas.<br />
ara marto tenderebSi monawileobas,<br />
aramed fondis Seqmnas da, rogorc<br />
emzar kvicianma aRniSna, saqvelmoqmedo<br />
proeqtis wamowyebas.<br />
rekonstruirebuli daviT aRmaSeneblis sax-<br />
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elobis saerTaSoriso aeroporti quTaisTan ax-<br />
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igi Tbilisidan 200 kilometrSi mdebareobs da 300 km radiusiT TurqeTs,<br />
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rulebulia. adgilze, daaxloebiT, 16 500<br />
kubmetris moculobis betoni Caisxa. am<br />
etapze rkinis kontruqciis montaJi mimdinareobs.<br />
mSenebloba gegmis mixedviT midis<br />
da igi 2019 wels aucileblad dasruldeba.<br />
am etapze gamoyofilia 60 milioni lari.<br />
saqarTvelos aeroportebis gaerTianebis<br />
informaciiT, terminalis dizaini holandiur<br />
arqiteqturul kompania UN Studio-s<br />
ekuTvnis. aeroportis ganviTarebis analizi<br />
ki IATA konsaltingis mier aris gakeTebuli,<br />
romelmac yvela im momsaxurebis standarti<br />
gansazRvra, rasac aeroporti unda<br />
akmayofilebdes.<br />
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TSi 300 mgzavrs emsaxureboda. axali terminalis<br />
mSeneblobis dasrulebis Semdeg ki<br />
aeroports 7 gasasvleli eqneba, rac imas<br />
niSnavs, rom saaTSi 1000-1100 mgzavris Seuferxeblad<br />
gatarebas SeZlebs. axali terminalis<br />
mTliani farTi 24 176 kvadratul<br />
metrs Seadgens. quTaisis aeroportSi am<br />
etapze 440 adamiania dasaqmebuli. aeroportis<br />
axali terminalis mSeneblobis dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg maTi ricxvi gaizrdeba”, _ amboben<br />
aeroportebis gaerTianebaSi.<br />
aeroportis prioritets bazarze dabalbiujetiani<br />
kompaniebis mozidva warmoadgens.<br />
quTaisis saerTaSoriso aeroportSi<br />
mgzavrTa mzardi nakadis gamo axali sivrceebis<br />
Seqmna gaxda saWiro. axali terminalis<br />
mSenebloba 2017 wels daanonsda.<br />
proeqtis Rirebuleba 23 305 085 laria.<br />
proeqtis mixedviT terminalis mSenebloba<br />
xelSekrulebis dadebidan 140 dReSi unda<br />
dasrulebuliyo. mSenebloba 2017 wlis seqtemberSi<br />
daiwyo.<br />
ramdenime dRis win socialur qselSi<br />
moqalaqe levan WanWaleiSvilis posti gamo-<br />
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„vizearma”, romelic quTaisis aeroportSi<br />
operirebs, agvistosa da seqtemberSi dagegmili<br />
axali reisebi gaauqma. mizezi ki axali<br />
terminalis mSeneblobis gajanjlebaa. turistebis<br />
raodenoba izrdeba, gazrdil moTxovnas<br />
ki aeroportis arsebuli farTobi<br />
ver pasuxobs.<br />
saqarTvelos aeroportebis gaerTianeba-<br />
Si acxadeben, rom mSenebloba zustad Caeteva<br />
vadebSi da rame mniSvnelovani Seferxeba<br />
ar arsebobs. dResdReobiT pirveli etapis<br />
samuSaoebidan rkina-betonis samuSaoebi dasaigeba<br />
Tu ara 2019 wels<br />
quTaisis aeroportis<br />
axali terminali?<br />
axali samgzavro terminalis mSeneblobis<br />
dasrulebis Semdeg aeroports Svidi<br />
gasasvleli eqneba. 2020 wels daiwyeba axali<br />
da Zveli terminalebis SeerTebis faza.<br />
Zveli terminali gamoyofili iqneba mxolod<br />
Camofrenili mgzavrebisTvis, xolo<br />
axali _ gamgzavrebis msurvelTaTvis.<br />
frenebis gadadebas zemoxsenebuli mizniT<br />
ar adastureben kompania „vizearSic”.<br />
kompaniaSi acxadeben, rom axali terminalis<br />
dasrulebas elodebian da elian mgzavrTa<br />
gazrdil nakadsac. saboloo jamSi, pasuxi<br />
kiTxvaze, _ dasruldeba Tu ara daTqmul<br />
vadebSi aeroportis axali terminalis mSenebloba,<br />
bundovania.<br />
dReisTvis quTaisis aeroportSi ramdenime<br />
aviakompania dafrinavs. arsebuli kompaniebidan<br />
yvelaze met reiss dabalbiujetiani<br />
ungruli kompania „vizeari” asrulebs.<br />
saqarTvelos aeroportebis gaer-<br />
Tianeba ambobs, rom, savaraudod, quTaiss<br />
male kidev erTi dabalbiujetiani kompania<br />
„raineari” daemateba, rac kidev ufro<br />
metad gazrdis mgzavrTa nakads.<br />
saqarTvelos ekonomikis saministros informaciiT,<br />
quTaisis daviT aRmaSeneblis<br />
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ramdenad SeSinebulia xelisufleba?<br />
raze metyvelebs is faq-<br />
ti, rom „ocneba” yvelanair meTo-<br />
dze iyo wamsvleli arCevnebis<br />
mosagebad? ramdenad realuria<br />
vadamdeli saparlamento arCevne-<br />
bi da ra SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba da-<br />
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taruli saarCevno sistema?<br />
aRniSnul TemebTan dakavSire-<br />
biT „qronika+” politolog nika<br />
CitaZes esaubra:<br />
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tri Tanamdebobidan ganTavisu-<br />
flebis Semdeg im uTanxmoebaze<br />
alaprakda, romelic massa da xe-<br />
lisuflebas Soris iyo?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, ekonomikisa da<br />
mdgradi ganviTarebis saministro<br />
aris erT-erTi yvelaze gavleniani<br />
saministro saqarTveloSi, miT umetes,<br />
rodesac gauqmda garemos dacvisa<br />
da energetikis saministro<br />
da maTi calkeuli departamentebi<br />
ukve ekonomikis saministros<br />
struqturaSi Sevida. amitomac ekonomikis<br />
saministro pasuxismgebelia<br />
qveynis energetikul da ekologiur<br />
politikaze da a. S. sxvadasxva<br />
statistikuri monacemi gvamcnobs,<br />
rom qveyanaSi garkveuli<br />
ekonomikuri zrda SeiniSneba, Sar-<br />
Sandeli monacmebiT saqarTveloSi<br />
mTliani Sida produqtis zrdam<br />
4%-s gadaaWarba, mimdinare wlis<br />
pirvel kvartalSi eqsportis moculoba<br />
gaizarda, daaxloebiT,<br />
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ver grZnobs Svebas da ufro izrdeba<br />
im adamianTa ricxvi, romelic<br />
ukmayofiloa arsebuli socialur-ekonomikuri<br />
mdgomareobiT.<br />
aRniSnulze metyvelebs „saer-<br />
TaSoriso respublikuri institutis”<br />
mier Catarebuli gamokiTxvebi,<br />
aseve „erovnul-demokratiuli<br />
institutis” mier Catarebuli gamokiTxvebic,<br />
romlis mixedviTac,<br />
mosaxleobis 60%-is azriT, mTavari<br />
problema umuSevrobaa. laris<br />
kursis gaufasurebac, miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom xelisufleba da statistikis<br />
samsaxuri, ekonomikis zrdas<br />
acxadebs, laris kursi mainc<br />
ufasurdeba sxvadasxva sagareo da<br />
saSinao faqtoris gamo. garda amisa,<br />
jinis koeficienti (socialuri<br />
uTanasworobis maCvenebeli, _ red.)<br />
saqarTveloSi izrdeba, anu ma-<br />
RalSemosavliani adamianebi ufro<br />
maRal Semosavals iReben, Raribebi<br />
kidev ufro Raribdebian, socialuri<br />
disproporcia izrdeba<br />
da saqarTvelo jinis koeficientis<br />
mixedviT erT-erT pirvel adgilzea.<br />
aseve mTliani Sida produqtis<br />
erT sul mosaxleze gaangariSebiT<br />
saqarTvelo aseulSic ver<br />
Sedis, Tumca ganviTarebis indeqsis<br />
maCvenebliT 88-e adgilzea, magram<br />
faqtia, rom mowinave poziciebi<br />
ar gvikava. am yvelaferze swored<br />
imitom visaubre, rom pirveli<br />
problema ekonomikaa, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
SesaZlebelia, qobulias<br />
Tanamdebobidan ganTavisufleba<br />
ukavSirdebodes im faqts, rom qobuliam<br />
gantevebis vacis roli iTamaSos,<br />
rom TiTqos „qarTul ocnebas”<br />
garkveuli miznebi hqonda<br />
qveynis Semdgom socialur-ekonomikur<br />
ganviTarebasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
magram ministrma ar gaamarTla.<br />
iseve, rogorc manamde, ivaniSvilma<br />
yvelaferi premier-ministr<br />
kvirikaSvils gadaabrala. ase mgonia,<br />
rom es erTgvari taqtikaa, roca<br />
raRacas ver axorcieleb, calkeul<br />
adamianebs abraleb. mosaxleobaSi<br />
ukmayofilo adamianTa<br />
ricxvi rom ar gaizardos, amitom<br />
ministrs abraleben, viTom man ar<br />
gaamarTla. aseve xalxs ukeTesis<br />
imedis gancdas uqmnian, rom ministri<br />
Seicvleba da situacia gaumjobesdeba.<br />
axla ukve sul wina<br />
planze Cans naTia Turnava, preskonferenciebi<br />
tardeba, saubrobs<br />
engurhesis reabiltaciaze, energetikuli<br />
resursebis racionalur<br />
aTvisebaze. garkveulwilad, mosaxleobas<br />
amcnoben, rom qobulia ki<br />
cudi iyo, magram mdgomareoba axali<br />
ministris pirobebSi gamoswordeba.<br />
rac Seexeba uSualod uTanxmoebis<br />
mizezebs, SesaZlebelia, is<br />
iyo, rom anakliis portis ganvi-<br />
Tareba Seferxda; „Tibisi bankTan”<br />
arsebuli viTareba afrTxobs investors<br />
da am SemTxvevaSi aferxebs<br />
investiciebis Semodinebasa da<br />
dabandebas sxvadasxva seqtorSi. es<br />
erT-erTi magaliTia. wina ekonomikis<br />
mmarTvelobis dros sawvavze<br />
aqcizuri gadasaxadebi gaizarda<br />
da benzini gaZvirda. SesaZloa, qobulias<br />
surda am gadasaxadis Semcireba<br />
da amitomac mouvida uTanxmoeba,<br />
es zustad ar vici. yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, uTanxmoebis mizezi<br />
bevri ram SeiZleboda yofiliyo.<br />
garda amisa, SesaZloa, piradi problemebic<br />
arsebobda, SeiZleba ver<br />
gamonaxa partiis TavmjdomaresTan<br />
saerTo ena, SesaZloa, Tavad baton<br />
qobuliasTan dakavSirebiTac daisvas<br />
kiTxvebi.<br />
_ aris mosazreba, rom Sesa-<br />
Zloa, is swored rusul TamaSs<br />
TamaSobda... ramdenad eTanxmebiT<br />
am azrs?<br />
_ cota rTulia amaze saubari.<br />
is ruseTSi moRvaweobda da mniSvnelovani<br />
kapitali swored ruse-<br />
TSi daagrova. gamoricxuli ar aris,<br />
rom ruseTis mier iyos marTuli.<br />
Tu ruseTis mier aris marTuli,<br />
amaze pasuxismgebloba xelisuflebas<br />
ekisreba, ratom dainiSna<br />
ekonomikis ministrad es adamiani?!<br />
ekonomikis saministro qveynis xerxemals<br />
unda warmoadgendes,<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, xelisuflebam<br />
unda agos pasuxi imaze, ratom dainiSna<br />
es adamiani ekonomikis ministrad?!<br />
ra mimarTulebiT TamaSobda<br />
is rusul TamaSs, esec sainteresoa,<br />
_ rame iseTi proeqti iyo<br />
gansaxorcielebeli da ar ganxorcielda?<br />
magaliTad, ewinaaRmdegeboda<br />
Tu ara qobulia anakliis<br />
portis ganviTarebas? ruseTi ewinaaRmdegeba<br />
anakliis portis gan-<br />
nika CitaZe:<br />
`biZina ki ar aris<br />
ubedureba,<br />
biZinizmia ubedureba<br />
ra Tqma unda,<br />
arc miSizmi da<br />
zviadizmia<br />
aris misaRebi~<br />
viTarebas imitom, rom igi fiqrobs,<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, rusul portebs<br />
didi konkurenti gauCndeba<br />
anakliis portis saxiT. ramdenime<br />
dRis win ruseTis ekonomikis ministrma<br />
imasTan dakavSirebiT ilaparaka,<br />
rom ruseTis kaspiisa da Savi<br />
zRvis portebi erTmaneTs unda<br />
daukavSirdes, centraluri aziidan<br />
momavali tvirTebis transportireba<br />
novorosiiskis portamde<br />
unda ganxorcieles an CrdiloeT<br />
kavkasiaSi satransporto infrastruqtura<br />
unda ganviTardes.<br />
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos<br />
saxiT ruseTi iRebs did konkurents.<br />
ramdenad iyo am sakiTxSi<br />
`samwuxarod, jerjerobiT, Tavad xelisufleba<br />
TamaSobs garkveul rusul TamaSs. vgulisxmob<br />
imas, rom dRes "Tibisi banki" wnexis qveS aris,<br />
swored xazaraZe da "Tibisia" anakliis<br />
konsorciumis wevri. Tu am proeqtis<br />
ganxorcieleba Seferxda, ra Tqma unda, es,<br />
pirvel rigSi, ruseTs awyobs. Cven viciT, rom<br />
anakliis ports SeeZleba 100 milionamde<br />
tvirTis gadamuSaveba, transportireba, rodesac<br />
ruseTSi mdebare novorosiiskis porti sami Tvis<br />
ganmavlobaSi daketilia Stormebis gamo da<br />
amitomac anakliis porti erT-erTi yvelaze<br />
mZlavri porti iqneba Sav zRvaze~<br />
qobulia CarTuli, bunebrivia, unda<br />
gairkves. mosaxleobam unda<br />
icodes simarTle, vin aris marTali.<br />
aristoteles logikaSi ori<br />
varianti arsebobs, mesames gamoricxvis<br />
principiT. rodesac ori<br />
subieqti erTmaneTTan daobs an<br />
erTia marTali, an _ meore. mesame<br />
varianti aris gamoricxuli. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, xelisuflebas Tu<br />
rame damamtkicebeli sabuTi aqvs,<br />
unda auxsnas mosaxleobas, rom qobulia<br />
cdeboda. samwuxarod, jerjerobiT,<br />
Tavad xelisufleba TamaSobs<br />
garkveul rusul TamaSs. vgulisxmob<br />
imas, rom dRes „Tibisi<br />
banki” wnexis qveS aris, swored xazaraZe<br />
da „Tibisia” anakliis konsorciumis<br />
wevri. Tu am proeqtis<br />
ganxorcieleba Seferxda, ra Tqma<br />
unda, es, pirvel rigSi, ruseTs awyobs.<br />
Cven viciT, rom anakliis<br />
ports SeeZleba 100 milionamde<br />
tvirTis gadamuSaveba, transportireba,<br />
rodesac ruseTSi mdebare<br />
novorosiiskis porti sami Tvis<br />
ganmavlobaSi daketilia Stormebis<br />
gamo da amitomac anakliis porti<br />
erT-erTi yvelaze mZlavri porti<br />
iqneba Sav zRvaze. rusuli TamaSia<br />
swored is, rom Seferxdes<br />
aRniSnuli navsadguris mSenebloba.<br />
miT umetes, rodesac evrokav-<br />
Siri 300 milioni evros dabandebas<br />
apirebs, saerTo jamSi, saqar-<br />
Tvelom 5-6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi unda<br />
miiRos 3 miliardi evro da 10%<br />
unda moxmardes anakliis portis<br />
ganviTarebas. faqtia, rom mas Semdeg,<br />
rac „qarTuli ocneba” xelisuflebaSi<br />
movida, saqarTvelom<br />
ruseTze ekonomikuri damokidebulebis<br />
zrda daiwyo. es qobulias<br />
ministrobamdec ase iyo. 2013 wels<br />
ruseT-saqarTvelos molaparakebebis<br />
Seedegad gaixsna rusuli bazari,<br />
qarTuli eqsportis moculoba<br />
rusul bazarze 150%-iT<br />
gaizarda, dRes ruseTi saqarTvelos<br />
nomer meore savaWro-ekonomikuri<br />
partnioria. qarTuli saeqsporto<br />
produqciis gasaRebis mixedviT,<br />
2019 wlis monacemebiT, saqarTvelo<br />
pirvel adgilzea, anu es<br />
aris viTareba, romelic gamowveuli<br />
iyo „qarTuli ocnebis” saqmianobis<br />
Sedegad. amitomac yvelafers<br />
qobulias ver davabralebT.<br />
_ rogor SeafasebT Sualedur<br />
arCevnebze winasaarCevno garemos?<br />
zugdidSi mdgomareoba gan-<br />
sakuTrebiT mwvave iyo, maT Soris,<br />
gavrcelda Canawerebi, sadac „oc-<br />
nebis” deputati imaze saubrobs,<br />
rom yvelanairi meTodiT unda<br />
moigon arCevnebi. raze metyve-<br />
lebs es faqtebi?<br />
_ didi ilia ityoda: „moyvares<br />
pirSi uZraxe, mters pirs ukanao”.<br />
me adrec aRminiSnavs da axlac minda<br />
vTqva, rom es yvelaferi aris<br />
qarTuli sazogadoebis mniSvnelovani<br />
nawilis qmedebis Sedegi. 2012<br />
wels acxadebdnen, rom oRond miSa<br />
ara da vinc ginda, movideso. arc<br />
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mosagebad yvelafers kadrulobda~<br />
fiqrobdnen momavalze, egonaT,<br />
rom movidoda adamiani, romelic<br />
maT fuls daurigebda da isinic<br />
udardelad icxovrebdnen. erTi<br />
dRiT cxovrobdnen da Sedegi aris<br />
is, rac miviReT. biZina ki ar aris<br />
ubedureba, biZinizmia ubedureba,<br />
ra Tqma unda, arc miSizmi da zviadizmia<br />
aris misaRebi. zogadad, beladizmi<br />
miuRebelia. Sen unda iyo<br />
individualuri da Tavisufali.<br />
qarTvelebs gvaqvs aseTi sityva _<br />
Tavisufali, anu Seni Tavis ufali.<br />
5 ucxo enas met-naklebad vflob,<br />
aseTi sityva arc erT enaSi Semxvedria.<br />
CvenTan arsebobs, magram<br />
ramdenad viyenebT, es sxva sakiTxia.<br />
romael filosofossa da poet<br />
ovidiuss aqvs naTqvami: „mxolod<br />
ganaTlebul adamians ZaluZs Tavisufleba”;<br />
ciceronmac kargad<br />
Tqva: „yvelaze bednieria is adamiani,<br />
romelic damokidebulia, pirvel<br />
rigSi, sakuTar Tavze”. Cven-<br />
Tan yovelTvis damokidebulebi<br />
arian sxvaze, rom Tavisufleba mihyidon<br />
sxvas da xSir SemTxvevaSi<br />
belads, romelic, maTi azriT, maT<br />
gasakeTebels gaakeTebs. cnobil<br />
fsiqolog erix fromis koncefciaa:<br />
Tavisuflebisgan gaqceva. Cven-<br />
Tan saqarTveloSi bevri gaiqca am<br />
Tavisuflebisgan, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
dRes miviReT is, rom xelisuflebaSi<br />
gvyavs adamianebi, romlebic<br />
saubroben, rom yvelanairi<br />
meTodis gamoyenebiT unda moigon<br />
arCevnebi. mosaxleobis mniSvnelovani<br />
nawilisTvis es misaRebia, er-<br />
Ti meores gadaulaparakebs xolme<br />
_ Sen rom yofiliyavi xelisuflebaSi,<br />
igives ar izamdi?!. xelisufleba<br />
SeSinebulia da es gamoCnda<br />
saprezidento arCevnebis pirveli<br />
turis Semdegac. xelisuflebas<br />
mmarTvelobis dakargvis, garkveulwilad,<br />
yovelTvis unda eSinodes,<br />
oRond amas kargi gagebiT vambob.<br />
demokratiul qveynebSic asea,<br />
magaliTad konservatorebi rom<br />
marTaven britaneTs, maT eSiniaT,<br />
rom Tu ver ganaxorcieles proeqtebi,<br />
Semdgom arCevnebSi damarcxdebian,<br />
magram es aris normaluri<br />
da safuZvliani SiSi, rac aiZulebs<br />
qveynis mmarTvel Zalas, konkretuli<br />
reformebi gaataros. saqar-<br />
TveloSi gansxvavebuli faqtoria,<br />
_ erTi mxriv, xelisufleba SeSinda,<br />
magram, meore mxriv, xelisuflebam<br />
saprezidento arCevnebis<br />
meore turSi isic dainaxa, rom<br />
mondomebis SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebas<br />
SeinarCunebs, anu daarigebs<br />
5 kilo kartofils, TbilisSi mcxovreblebs,<br />
vinc regionebSia registrirebuli,<br />
mikroavtobusebiT<br />
Caiyvans xmis misacemad. amasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT minda, giTxraT: ramdenime<br />
dRis win gaCerebaze Seveswari<br />
saubars, zudideli gogo elaprakeboda<br />
mobilurze, savaraudod,<br />
megobars an naTesavs, _ axla<br />
arCevnebze mTavazoben „marSutkiT”<br />
Casvlas, Tan 50 lars ixdiano.<br />
Cveulebrivad, xmamaRla saubrobda,<br />
sxvebsac esmoda. es gogo imaze<br />
amaxvilebda yuradRebas, rom Cavidoda<br />
da Tavis megobars Tu nacnobs<br />
Sexvdeboda, anu arCevnebze<br />
ufasod wasvla da 50 laris aReba<br />
es misTvis Cveulebrivi ambavi iyo,<br />
rogorc Cans. xelisufleba yvelafers<br />
kadrulobda arCevnebis<br />
mosagebad. 2016 welsac yvelaferi<br />
gaakeTa, rom 73-e olqSi Tavisi kandidati<br />
gaeyvana, formalurad mainc<br />
gaeyvanaT opoziciis kandidati.<br />
zurabiSvils saprezidento<br />
`ruseTi ewinaaRmdegeba anakliis portis ganviTarebas imitom, rom igi<br />
fiqrobs, am SemTxvevaSi, rusul portebs didi konkurenti gauCndeba<br />
anakliis portis saxiT. ramdenime dRis win ruseTis ekonomikis ministrma<br />
imasTan dakavSirebiT ilaparaka, rom ruseTis kaspiisa da Savi zRvis<br />
portebi erTmaneTs unda daukavSirdes, centraluri aziidan momavali<br />
tvirTebis transportireba novorosiiskis portamde unda ganxorcieles an<br />
CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi satransporto infrastruqtura unda ganviTardes.<br />
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saqarTvelos saxiT ruseTi iRebs did konkurents.<br />
ramdenad iyo am sakiTxSi qobulia CarTuli, bunebrivia, unda gairkves~<br />
arCevnebis meore turi rom waego,<br />
SeeZlo ganecxadebinaT, rom mSvidobianad<br />
gadaabara saprezidento<br />
posti opoziciis kandidats. am<br />
SemTxvevaSi, rac ar unda isaubron<br />
„sisxlian 9 welze”, „nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” ufro meti aqvs salaprako.<br />
„nacionalur moZraobas”<br />
aqvs saTqmeli, rom man 2012 wels<br />
mSvidobianad gadaabara xelisufleba<br />
„ocnebas”, damoukidebeli<br />
saqarTvelos istoriaSi pirvelad<br />
moxda xelisuflebis mSvidobiani<br />
gziT gadabareba. „qarTul ocnebas”<br />
meore turi rom waego, mainc<br />
inarCunebda mTavrobas, parlamentsa<br />
da 2020 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebisTvis moemzadebodnen.<br />
Tumca isini saqarTvelos presti-<br />
Jze naklebad fiqroben. isini fiqroben,<br />
rom arCevnebis wagebis<br />
erTi precedenti mainc Tu Seiqmneba,<br />
es iqneba rRvevis dasawyisi.<br />
amitomac eWidebodnen ase mTawmindis<br />
olqsa da zugdids. orive saarCevno<br />
olqi xelisuflebisTvis<br />
mtkivneuli iyo. zugdidi imitom,<br />
rom samegrelo, rogorc wesi, „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” mxardamWerad<br />
iTvleba. sandra rulovsi<br />
adrec iyrida kenWs da yuTebic ki<br />
gaitaces saarCevno ubnebidan, esec<br />
ki ikadres. am Sualedur arCevnebzec<br />
araerTi ciliswameba movismineT<br />
sandra rulovsis misamarTiT.<br />
_ raze metyvelebs is faqti,<br />
rom xelisuflebas sandra rulovsis<br />
winaaRmdeg aseTi me-<br />
TodebiT mouwia brZola?<br />
_ pirdapir minda vTqva, rom es<br />
metyvelebs mosaxleobis dabal<br />
kulturaze. ra Tqma unda, es mec<br />
mexeba, am sazogadoebis Semadgeneli<br />
nawili var. guli Semtkiva da<br />
amitomac vambob, rom qveyanaSi ganaTlebis<br />
ganviTarebaa saWiro.<br />
warmogidgeniaT, rogor doneze<br />
vrceldeba es cru informaciebi?!<br />
_ amboben, sandra organoebiT va-<br />
Wrobdao da viRac amas ijerebs.<br />
adamians unda hqondes ganaTleba,<br />
kultura da inteleqti imisTvis,<br />
rom ar daijeros msgavsi informacia,<br />
romelic Woris doneze mizanmimarTulad<br />
vrceldeba. „nacionalur<br />
moZraobaze” amboben,<br />
cocxebiT aupatiurebdnen xalxso.<br />
im adamianebisTvis, romlebic amas<br />
dRemde amboben, pasuxi aravis mou-<br />
Txovia. normalur qveyanaSi, vinc<br />
Segnebulad avrcelebs msgavs cru<br />
informaciebs, ciliswamebisTvis<br />
pasuxs mosTxovdnen. is adamiani<br />
(Tu adamianamde jer kidev armisuli<br />
arseba, rogorc nicSe ityoda),<br />
romelic winasaarCevnod gamovida<br />
da sandras uTxra, Tirkmeli amomacaleo,<br />
Turme, jgufur yaCaRobaze<br />
yofila braldebuli. mag „adamians”<br />
sjobda, sandrasTvis eki-<br />
Txa, Cemi tvini sad waiReo da amas<br />
ufro daijerebda xalxi. Tu xelisufleba<br />
aseTi adamianebis imedzea,<br />
es saSinelebaa. Tundac gavixsenoT<br />
korcxelis incidenti, rac<br />
ikadra am xelisuflebam. wina xelisuflebaze<br />
SeiZleba gaixseno 7<br />
noemberi da 26 maisi. me „imedSi” Se-<br />
Wras ar vamarTleb, magram 7 noembers<br />
xelisuflebis damxobis mowodeba<br />
iyo, Sesabamisad, xelisuflebam<br />
Zala gamoiyena, ubralod,<br />
gadaameta. rac Seexeba 26 maiss, momitingeebs<br />
mouwodes, rom sxvagan<br />
gaemarTaT mitingi, raTa aRlumi<br />
CaetarebinaT, risi saSualebac ar<br />
misces, amitomac moxda is, rac<br />
moxda. cota gansxvavebul viTarebasTan<br />
gvqonda saqme, nebismieri<br />
xelisufleba imoqmedebs, rodesac<br />
mitingi arasanqcirebulia. Cven gvinaxavs<br />
mitingis darbevebi ekonomikurad<br />
ganviTarebul qveynebSi,<br />
xelisuflebis moqmedeba safrangeTSi,<br />
yviTelJiletianebTan mimar-<br />
TebiT. saerTo jamSi, ra Tqma unda,<br />
Zaladobis winaaRmdegi var. „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” SemTxvevaSi iseT realobas<br />
viRebT, xSirad Cans, rom<br />
xelisufleba moZaladeebs Tavadve<br />
afarebs xels. korcxelis incidentis<br />
monawileebs awinaureben, Tbilisis<br />
meri xels arTmevs adamians,<br />
vinc Tako Carkviansa da mis qmarze<br />
Tavdasxma ganaxorciela. aSkarad<br />
aCveneben xalxs, rom am moZaladeebs<br />
mfarveloben, rom es moZaladeebi<br />
maT mxares dganan, „mxedrionis”<br />
dros, rogorc iyo, ubralod<br />
eseni SeiaraRebulebi ar arian,<br />
Tan axla ufro civilizebuli<br />
garemoa, ufro meti asfaltia<br />
dagebuli, quCebi ganaTebulia, rac<br />
„ocnebis” damsaxureba namdvilad<br />
araa, vinc gaanaTa, Zalian kargad<br />
viciT. gaanaTa, magram bolomde<br />
ver gaanaaTla xalxi da samwuxaro<br />
realobas amitomac viRebT.<br />
_ gavrcelebuli informaciiT,<br />
ivaniSvili vadamdeli saparlamen-<br />
to arCevnebisTvis emzadeba.<br />
rogor fiqrobT, awyobs Tu ara<br />
am mocemulobaSi mmarTvel gunds<br />
vadamdeli arCevnebi?<br />
_ ivaniSvili saprezidento arCevnebis<br />
meore turis win xalxs dahpirda,<br />
erTi welic macadeTo. ukve<br />
naxevari weli gavida da, samwuxarod,<br />
progresi ar igrZnoba. Sei-<br />
Zleba fiqroben, rom 2020 wlamde<br />
am reitings ver SeinarCuneben da<br />
amitomac vadamdeli awyobT. am etapze<br />
maT saxelmwifo moxeleebi da<br />
maTi ojaxis wevrebi uWeren mxars,<br />
isini imdenad „ocnebas” ar uWeren<br />
mxars, ramdenadac sakuTar Tavs.<br />
„ocnebis” wasvlis SemTxvevaSi fiqroben,<br />
rom samsaxuridan gaaTavisufleben<br />
da amitomac uWeren<br />
mxars. mgonia, rom SesaZloa, xelisuflebas<br />
swored amitomac awyobdes<br />
vadamdeli saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Catareba, Tumca es<br />
garkveul procedurebs moiTxovs.<br />
prezidentma unda daniSnos vadamdeli<br />
arCevnebi, aseve es procedura<br />
iTvaliswinebs parlamentis<br />
daTxovnas, rasac aqvs wesebi, ra<br />
SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba daiTxovos<br />
parlamenti da a. S. mainc mgonia,<br />
rom saparlamento arCevnebi 2020<br />
wels Catardeba. opoziciac iTxovs<br />
vadamdel arCevnebs, Tumca Secvlili<br />
saarCevno sistemiT. rac Seexeba<br />
proporciuli sistemiT Catarebas,<br />
opozicia sxva SemTxvevaSi<br />
vadamdel arCevnebs ar unda das-<br />
Tanxmdes. SesaZlebelia, „veneciis<br />
komisiasTan” da ucxoel partniorebTan<br />
muSaoba im sakiTxze,<br />
rom 2024 wlis nacvlad proporciuli<br />
sistemiT arCevnebi 2020<br />
wlidan Catardes. amis Sesaxeb<br />
saqarTvelos konstituciaSi unda<br />
Sevides cvlileba. dRes saqarTvelos<br />
konstituciaSi dafiqsirebulia,<br />
rom airCeva 150 deputati,<br />
aqedan 77 proporciuli, xolo 73<br />
maJoritaruli wesiT. maJoritaruli<br />
sistema unda gauqmdes. Tu<br />
kanonis uzenaesoba arsebobs, ma-<br />
Joritarul sistemaSi problema<br />
namdvilad ar aris. wminda maJoritaruli<br />
sistemaa did britaneTSi,<br />
mxolod maJoritaruli sistemiT<br />
irCeven TemTa palatis wevrebs;<br />
aseve wminda maJoritaruli sistemaa<br />
aSS-Si, sadac TemTa palatisa<br />
da senatis wevrebs irCeven am<br />
sistemiT; Sereuli sistemaa germaniaSi;<br />
belgiasa da israelSi ki wminda<br />
proporciuli sistemaa; evroparlamenti<br />
erTaderTi arCeviTi<br />
saerTaSoriso struqturaa, sadac<br />
wminda proporciuli sistemiT<br />
irCeven. im SemTxvevaSi Tu kanonis<br />
uzenaesobaa, maJoritaris arCevisas<br />
xelisufleba konkretul saarCevno<br />
olqSi administraciul resurss<br />
ver gamoiyenebs. rodesac<br />
demokratia ar aris qveyanaSi, swored<br />
es qmnis problemas. amitomac<br />
dRes iZulebulebi varT, wminda<br />
proporciul sistemaze gadavideT.<br />
ufro mravalpartiuli da pluralistuli<br />
parlamenti miviRoT.<br />
proporciuli sistemis SemTxveva-<br />
Sic xelisufleba mainc yvelafers<br />
gaakeTebs, rom Zalaufleba SeinarCunos,<br />
Tumca amis Sansi naklebi<br />
eqneba.<br />
_ ra SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba ai-<br />
Zulos opoziciam xelisufleba,<br />
rom daTmos maJoritaruli siste-<br />
ma, garda xelmowerebis Segrovebisa,<br />
rac, SeiZleba iTqvas, arad-<br />
amajereblad JRers?<br />
_ diax, aradamajereblad JRers,<br />
radgan opoziciam unda Seagrovos<br />
milioni xelmowera, Tumca swored<br />
xelmowerebSia saqme. Tu opozicia<br />
Seagrovebs milion xelmoweras da<br />
xelisuflebas Zalas aCvenebs, rom<br />
maT ukan milioni adamiani dgas, es<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovani iqneba. saprezidento<br />
arCevnebis meore turSi,<br />
daaxloebiT, 780 aTasma adamianma<br />
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aseT SemTxvevaSi opozicias<br />
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rom 2020 wels proporciul<br />
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meti kontaqti mqondes JurnalistebTan,<br />
aseve vcdilobT, Cveni<br />
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imas vambob. Sen mismen, Seni argumentebiT<br />
mekamaTebi da vcdilobT,<br />
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TanamSromlebi, romlebic xels afareben<br />
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ufrosis moadgilea) da didube-CuRureTis<br />
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ukve sami weliwadia.<br />
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22<br />
Cinosnebi wamoewivnen, romlebmac winaswar<br />
icodnen misi marSruti da iseTi pirobebi<br />
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mtkvris marjvena sanapiroze da didi<br />
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savaraudod, mas saburavSi esroles. maleve<br />
manqanas borbali gadasZvra da Cemi<br />
Svili diskiT mainc agrZelebda moZraobas.<br />
gzad mas gamoekida sapatrulo policia, radganac<br />
aRniSnuli manqanis dakavebis brZaneba<br />
gadacemuli iyo. beliaSvilis quCaze,<br />
„fordis” maRaziis mimdebared, Cemi Svili<br />
veRar imorCilebs manqanas, aCerebs da mtkvris<br />
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me ar vici, amas ramdenad akeTebda<br />
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da vinc narkotikis Cadeba scada,<br />
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Tvelos maSindeli ufrosi, Cemi Svilis mkvleli<br />
_ sulxan TamazaSvili ijda _ is, vinc<br />
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mas SeTanxmebuli da dagegmili hqonda<br />
Tbilisis policiis departamentis ufrosis<br />
maSindel moadgile aleqsandre birTveliSvilTan<br />
erTad.<br />
didube-CuRureTis policiis sammarTveloSi<br />
yvela mtkicebuleba gaaqres da Segnebulad<br />
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imedi, rom samarTlianoba izeimebda.<br />
qalaqis prokuratura ukve TiTqmis weliwad-naxevaria,<br />
am saqmes iZiebs (gamomZiebeli<br />
irakli Jvania, zedamxedveli prokurori<br />
laSa fanCuliZe); mowmeebi gamoikiTxnen,<br />
daikiTxnen patrul-inspeqtorebi. dakiTxvis<br />
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ramdenad SeeZloT patrulebs giorgi ku-<br />
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kuWaZem aRniSna, rom siluetebs maSinac da<br />
axlac xedavda. eqsperimentisas aSkarad<br />
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ver dainaxes, saiT wavida Cemi Svili.<br />
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patrul-inspeqtorebis giorgi ku-<br />
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Cemi advokatebisTvis cnobili iyo.<br />
magram, Cvenda gasaocrad, es ar moxda. gairkva,<br />
rom patrul-inspeqtorebze bralis<br />
wayeneba qalaqis prokuroris survils ewinaaRmdegeboda,<br />
romelmac, Tavis mxriv,<br />
saqarTvelos generalur prokurors umoqmedoba<br />
gadaabrala.<br />
ra Tqma unda, davinteresdiT, ratom<br />
daibloka saqme maSin, roca damnaSaveebis,<br />
jerjerobiT, mxolod patrulebis bralis<br />
wayeneba unda momxdariyo? amitom ori Tvis<br />
win werili mivwereT qalaqis prokuror<br />
malxaz kapanaZes da werilobiTi pasuxis<br />
gacema vTxoveT, Tu ratom dabloka saqme.<br />
samwuxarod, dRemde pasuxi ar migviRia.<br />
agreTve moviTxoveT, rom Segvxvedroda da<br />
aexsna, ratom icavs mkvlelebs da ratom ar<br />
uyeneben brals? samwuxarod, Sepirebis miuxedavad,<br />
kapanaZe daimala da ar Segvxvda.<br />
Tuki qalaqis prokurori werilebze pasuxebs<br />
ar gvcems, ar gvxvdeba, TiTqmis bralis<br />
wayenebamde misul gamoZiebas blokavs,<br />
maSin raRas akeTebs mTavari prokurori?<br />
Tavis Tanamdebobaze marto imitom aris,<br />
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daicvas da xeli daafaros, Tundac,<br />
isini misi megobrebi, maRali Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi iyvnen?<br />
ra Tqma unda, am saqmes dablokavda, radganac<br />
arsebobs imis saSiSroeba, rom es<br />
patrul-inspeqtorebi alaparakdebian da<br />
maRali Cinis vaisamarTaldamcvelebs<br />
aleqsandre birTveliSvilsa da sulxan<br />
TamazaSvils CauSveben.<br />
damnaSaveebs yvela normalur qveyanaSi<br />
sjian, ra rangis moxeleebic ar unda iyvnen<br />
isini. samarTaldamcvelebis mundirs amofarebulebi,<br />
isini ufro saSiSni arian da<br />
ise, ubralod, fulis gakeTebis gamo gegmaven<br />
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udanaSaulo adamians sasikvdilod ise, rom<br />
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Tanamdebobis pirebi. zuras mkvlelobis<br />
saqmeSi damnaSaveebis mfarvelad qalaqis<br />
prokurori malxaz kapanaZe mogvevlina,<br />
romelmac ar icis, rom misi movaleoba damnaSaveebis<br />
dasjaa da ara dacva.<br />
vitoveb imeds, rom qalaqis prokurori<br />
Sewyvets im binZur TamaSSi monawileobas,<br />
romelic misma uRirsma megobrebma wamoiwyes<br />
Cemi ojaxis winaaRmdeg da gamoZiebas sa-<br />
Sualebas miscems, rom damnaSaveebs droulad<br />
wauyenon brali.<br />
Sors araa is dro, rodesac damnaSaveebi<br />
da maTi xelis damfareblebi aucileblad<br />
daisjebian.<br />
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* saswrafos gamoZaxeba;<br />
* ojaxis eqimis/pediatris konsultacia<br />
klinikaSi an saxlSi gamoZaxebiT;<br />
* profilaqtikuri kvlevebi;<br />
* gadaudebeli da gegmuri ambulatoria;<br />
nino gaCeCilaZe _ samedicino dazRve-<br />
vis direqtori:<br />
„Tibisi dazRveva” bazarze ukve janmrTelobis<br />
dazRvevis produqtiT Semovida.<br />
Cveni produqti mcire, saSualo da didi<br />
zomis kompaniebisTvis iqneba gankuTvnili.<br />
Cven kargad vicnobT kompaniebis Tanam-<br />
Sromlebis saWiroebebsa da qcevas, Sesabamisad,<br />
Cveni produqti maT mTavar preferenciebs<br />
maqsimalurad movargeT _ viciT,<br />
rom rac maT surT, es servisis miRebis<br />
simartive da siswrafea. amis gamoxmaurebaa<br />
swored is mravalferovani cifruli<br />
arxebi, romliTac Cven servisebs vTavazobT.<br />
ivnisidan samedicino anazRaurebis<br />
vebaplikacia eSveba, romlis saSualebiTac<br />
Cvens dazRveulebs servisis miReba Zalian<br />
martivad da swrafad SeeZlebaT. CvenTan<br />
aranairi Tanxobrivi limiti ar arsebobs,<br />
amasTan, 500 laramde Tanxa imave dRes, xolo<br />
500 lars zemoT, maqsimum, 3 dReSi anazRaurdeba.<br />
aseve kompaniebis HR-ebs dazRvevis<br />
procesis gasamartiveblad vebaplikacias<br />
vTavazobT, romlis saSualebiTac Tavis<br />
kompaniaSi Zalian martivad moaxdenen<br />
informaciis mobilizebas da Semdeg, faqtobrivad,<br />
erT Rilakze TiTis daWeriT Se-<br />
Zleben CvenTan, sadazRvevo kompaniaSi, am<br />
informaciis gamogzavnas. ra Tqma unda,<br />
sxva cifruli gadawyvetebic iqneba warmodgenili<br />
da bazarze arsebul moTxovnebs<br />
mudmivad gavaanalizebT da uswrafesad<br />
gamovexmaurebiT”.<br />
ra upiratesobiT gamoirCeva „Tibisi<br />
dazRveva”?<br />
* kargi dafarvebi/maRali limitebi;<br />
* naklebi gamonaklisebi;<br />
* Tavisufleba samedicino dawesebulebis<br />
arCevaSi;<br />
* sazRvargareT mkurnalobis dafinanseba<br />
saukeTeso tarifebiT saqarTveloSi.<br />
va, rac adamianebs sWirdebaT. medicina marto<br />
zarali da anazRaureba ar aris, esaa<br />
adamianis problema, am problemis movla.<br />
es SeiZleba sadazRvevo enaze zaralad<br />
iTargmnebodes, magram CvenTvis es adamiania,<br />
romelsac mixedva da yuradReba sWirdeba.<br />
Cven gvinda, rom im Zvel droSi davbrundeT,<br />
rodesac samedicino sferos warmomadgenlebi<br />
pacientebsa da adamianebze<br />
zrunavdnen da maT dardsa da safiqrals<br />
iziarebdnen. Cven ar unda davelodoT imas,<br />
rodis gaxdeba adamiani avad, Cveni aqcenti<br />
iqneba prevenciaze, rom adamiani avad ar gaxdes.<br />
saubari midis e. w. prevenciul RonisZiebebze,<br />
rodesac adamians gawerili aqvs<br />
Tavisi janmrTelobis gegma da man icis,<br />
janmrTelobis SesanarCuneblad rodis unda<br />
mivides eqimTan vizitze, ra unda gaake-<br />
Tos imisTvis, rom raRac daavadeba adre<br />
gamoavlinos, advilad morCes, jansaRad iyos.<br />
Cven gvinda, rom swored es SevTavazoT<br />
bazars. dRes, realurad, mTeli qarTuli<br />
medicina trialebs avad gaxdomaze _ avad<br />
gaxdi, mixvedi eqimTan, Tanxa gadaixade an<br />
sadazRvevom gadaixada da problema TiTqos<br />
moixsna. magram mimaCnia, rom es mainc<br />
vin isargeblebs „Tibisi dazRvevis”<br />
janmrTelobis dazRveviT?<br />
organizaciebs SeuZliaT daazRvion<br />
TanamSromlebi gamartivebuli procesiT,<br />
risTvisac Seiqmneba vebplatforma, rac<br />
dauzogavs maT administraciul resurssa<br />
da dros.<br />
sadazRvevo nakrebis minimaluri safasuri<br />
38 laria. „Tibisi dazRveva” momxmarebels<br />
sTavazobs 5 nakrebs, romelic erTmaneTisgan<br />
gansxvavdeba limitebiTa da dafarvebiT.<br />
„kargi”, „ukeTesi”, „saukeTeso”,<br />
„saucxoo” da „gansakuTrebuli” _ arCevani<br />
momxmarebelzea, Tu romel nakrebs airCevs.<br />
laSa CxaiZe _ „Tibisi dazRvevis” erTerTi<br />
pirveli klienti, gaerTianebuli safinanso<br />
korporaciis administraciis xe-<br />
lmZRvaneli:<br />
„is faqtorebi, Tu ratom SevaCereT<br />
arCevani „Tibisi dazRvevaze”, pirvel rig-<br />
Si, momsaxurebis xarisxia da Semdeg is individualuri<br />
damokidebuleba, rasac „Tibisi<br />
dazRveva” gvTavazobs. es Cveni kompaniis-<br />
Tvis Zalian mniSvnelovani da misasalmebelia,<br />
amitomac gavakeTeT arCevani „Tibisi<br />
* gadaudebeli da gegmuri hospitaluri<br />
momsaxureba;<br />
* sazRvargareT mkurnaloba;<br />
* medikamentebis anazRaureba;<br />
* gadaudebeli da gegmuri stomatologia;<br />
* orsuloba/mSobiarobis anazRaureba.<br />
anazRaurebis pirobebi<br />
momxmarebels anazRaurebis miReba See-<br />
Zleba „Tibisi dazRvevis” serviscentrebsa<br />
da onlain vebgverdis saSualebiT.<br />
serviscentrebSi anazRaurebisas:<br />
* 500 laramde Tanxa anazRaurdeba myisierad,<br />
xolo 500 larze meti Tanxa, maqsimum,<br />
3 samuSao dReSi.<br />
onlain anazRaurebisas:<br />
* 500 laramde Tanxa anazRaurdeba 1<br />
dReSi angariSze Caricxvis gziT, xolo<br />
500 larze meti Tanxa, maqsimum, 3 samuSao<br />
dReSi.<br />
onlain anazRaureba xelmisawvdomi<br />
gaxdeba ivnisidan vebgverdze, xolo „Tibisi<br />
dazRvevis” serviscentris misamarTia:<br />
aleqsandre yazbegis #24 b .<br />
nene injgia<br />
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23
giorgi abaSiZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
rusul okupaciasa da e. w. hibridul omze bevri Tqmula da<br />
dawerila, Tumca dRevandel interviuSi „rusuli gakveTileb-<br />
is” sxva aspeqtze gavamaxvilebT yuradRebas. kerZod, bolo<br />
dros gaaqtiurda mosazreba, rom saqarTvelos damoukideblo-<br />
bis dRis, 26 maiss aRniSvna rusuli narativia. sinamdvileSi,<br />
damoukideblobis dRe 9 aprils unda vizeimoT.<br />
am Temaze „qronika+” baTumis<br />
yofil prefeqts, saqarTvelos<br />
sapatriarqos wminda andria pir-<br />
velwodebulis saxelobis qarTu-<br />
li universitetis qarTvelol-<br />
ogiis centris xelmZRvanels,<br />
profesor tariel futkaraZes<br />
esaubra:<br />
_ erovnuli moZraobis warmo-<br />
madgenelTa mosazrebiT, saqarT-<br />
velos damoukideblobis dRe 26<br />
maiss ki ara, 9 aprils unda aRin-<br />
iSnebodes. batono tariel, es<br />
moTxovna Tu iniciativa gama-<br />
rTlebulia?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, gamarTlebulia.<br />
_ SegiZliaT, dagvisabuToT,<br />
gamarTlebuli ratom aris?<br />
_ amis dasabuTeba Zalian martivia:<br />
msoflios saxelmwifoebis<br />
damoukideblobis dRis aRniSvnas<br />
ramdenime safuZveli aqvs: pirveli<br />
safuZveli konkretuli saxelmwifos<br />
daarsebis dRea; meore _ konkretuli<br />
saxelmwifos istoriaSi<br />
gamorCeuli TariRi, magaliTad,<br />
safrangeTisTvis aseTi TariRi<br />
bastiliis aRebis dRea. rac Seexeba<br />
mesame safuZvels, yvela saxelmwifo,<br />
sxvadasxva dros, dapyrobili<br />
iyo da, Sesabamisad, damoukidebloba<br />
damoukideblobis aRdgenis<br />
dRes aRiniSneba. gekiTxebiT,<br />
saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
aRdgenis dRe romelia?<br />
_ amas ra kiTxva unda? _ 1991<br />
wlis 9 aprili.<br />
_ hoda, Tu msoflios gamocdilebas<br />
gaviTvaliswinebT, saqarTvelos<br />
damoukideblobis dRe saqarTvelos,<br />
rogorc saxelmwifos<br />
dafuZnebis dRe unda iyos, Tumca<br />
es dRe aravin icis, radgan saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifo 23 saukunis win<br />
dafuZnda, roca qujim da farnavazma<br />
damoukidebloba aRadgines;<br />
saqarTvelos damoukidebloba aietis<br />
mier istoriuli kolxeTis<br />
dafuZnebis dRes unda vizeimoT,<br />
magram es dRec aravis axsovs. Tu<br />
gvinda, rom damoukideblobis dRe<br />
saqarTvelos istoriis romelime<br />
gamorCeuli TariRi iyos, maSin<br />
aseTi gamorCeuli TariRi didgoris<br />
brZolaa, roca qarTvelobam<br />
evropisken mimavali Turq-seljukebi,<br />
praqtikulad, kavkasionze gaaCera<br />
da saqarTvelos damoukidebloba<br />
aRadgina da ganamtkica. ki<br />
batono, Tanaxma var, rom didgoris<br />
gamarjveba, romelic agvistoSi<br />
aRiniSneba, saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
dRed gamovacxadoT,<br />
magram saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
bolo TariRi _ arc meti,<br />
arc naklebi _ 1991 wlis 9 aprilia,<br />
romelic imave wlis 31 martis<br />
referendumiTaa ganmtkicebuli.<br />
rac Seexeba 26 maiss, es Zalian<br />
gamorCeuli TariRia _ ruseTis<br />
imperiis samefo dinastiis ganadgurebis<br />
Semdeg, 1918 wlis 26 maiss,<br />
saqarTvelom damoukidebloba aRidgina<br />
da pirveli respublika<br />
gamocxadda, romelmac sami weli<br />
iarseba. Sesabamisad, 26 maisi pirveli<br />
respublikis dafuZnebis dRea,<br />
romelsac 70-wliani axali rusuli<br />
okupacia moyva. amis Semdeg ki<br />
saqarTvelom damoukidebloba<br />
1991 wlis 9 aprils aRidgina.<br />
logikurad moazrovne nebismieri<br />
adamiani unda mivides im<br />
daskvnamde, rom radgan saqarTvelos<br />
dafuZnebis dRe ar gvaxsovs<br />
da arc didgori gamogvicxadebia<br />
damoukideblobis dRed, amitom<br />
saqarTvelos damoukidebloba Cveni<br />
qveynis damoukideblobis aRdgenis<br />
bolo dRes, anu 9 aprils<br />
vizeimoT.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, konstituciaSic<br />
ase weria<br />
da, simarTle<br />
giTxraT, ver vxvdebi,<br />
amaSi sakama-<br />
To ra aris.<br />
_<br />
sakamaTo<br />
SeiZleba, araferia,<br />
magram faqtia:<br />
saqarTve-<br />
los damouk<br />
uk-<br />
ideblobis<br />
dRed 26 maisi<br />
iTvleba. ise,<br />
arsebobs mo-<br />
sazreba, rom<br />
1991-92 wleb-<br />
is saxelmwifo<br />
gadatri-<br />
alebis Semdeg<br />
xelisuflebaSi mosulma<br />
Zalebma, saubaria, aria, aw gan-<br />
svenebul SevardnaZesa da mis<br />
garemocvaze, 26 maisi damoukide-<br />
blobis dRed mizanmimarTulad<br />
gamoacxades. amaze ras ityviT?<br />
_ 26 maiss saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
aRniSnva sruli gaugebrobaa<br />
imitom, rom viRacas ar awyobs,<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias mier Catarebuli<br />
referendumi da saqar-<br />
Tvelos damoukideblobis aRdgena<br />
wina planze wamoiwios.<br />
_ es viRac vin aris?<br />
_ cota vulgarulad rom giTxraT,<br />
es klani saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi<br />
1991-92 wlebis putCis<br />
Semdeg movida. es klani sabWoTa<br />
kavSirs ubedurebad ar miiCnevda<br />
da es inercia dRemde grZeldeba.<br />
_ anu saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
dRed 26 maisis gamocxadeba<br />
rusuli narativi da rusu-<br />
li e. w. hibriduli omis Sedegia?<br />
_ saqarTveloSi rusuli narativi<br />
da hibriduli omis nawili<br />
Zalian bevri ramea.<br />
_ saxeldobr?<br />
_ pirveli rusuli narativi 9<br />
aprilis glovis dRed gamocxadebaa.<br />
is, vinc 9 aprils glovis dRed<br />
acxadebs an rusuli sainformacio<br />
omis zegavlenis qveS aris, an rusuli<br />
sainformacio omis ganmaxorcielebelia!<br />
9 aprili damoukideblobis<br />
dRea da ara _ glovis!<br />
mas, vinc 9 aprils glovis dRed<br />
acxadebs, 26 maiss ki _ damoukideblobis,<br />
awyobs, rom sabWoTa rusu-<br />
`yvelaferi<br />
li agresia miCqmalos da ruseTis<br />
imperiaSi saqarTvelos yofna, garkveulwilad,<br />
normad gamoacxados.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, iseTebic arian, romlebic<br />
amboben, 1921 wels saqarTvelos<br />
damoukidebloba de iured ar<br />
gauqmebula da Jordanias devnilobaSi<br />
yofnac damoukideblobis,<br />
ase vTqvaT, veli iyoo. es rusuli<br />
imperiuli agresiis, aneqsiisa da<br />
mamaZaRlobis erTgvari gafermkrTalebaa!<br />
isic rusuli imperiuli velis<br />
da hibriduli omis nawilia, rom<br />
damkvidrebulia terminebi: „qarTul-afxazurri<br />
konfliqti”, „qarTul-osuri<br />
konfliqti” da a. S. sinamdvileSi,<br />
saqarTveloSi aranairi<br />
qarTul-afxazuri konfliqti<br />
ar yofila da arc aris. is afxazebi,<br />
romlebic saqarTvelosTan<br />
konfliqtSi Semovidnen, separatistebi<br />
ar iyvnen.<br />
_ aba, vin iyvnen?<br />
_ isini rusebisgan dafinansebuli<br />
„tipebi” iyvnen, maT Soris, qarTvelebi,<br />
afsuebi da somxebi. Zalian<br />
bevri afxazi megobari myavs.<br />
isini baTumsa da TbilisSi cxovroben.<br />
aseve myavs soxumeli studen-<br />
tariel futkaraZe:<br />
`dasavleTs<br />
ruseTTan<br />
urTierTobis<br />
garTulebis<br />
eSinia da<br />
amitom Cven<br />
gvwiravs!~<br />
rusuli hibriduli<br />
omis mamaZaRlobebi da<br />
stereotipuli<br />
diversia saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg<br />
tebi da maT qarTvelobasTan garTuleba<br />
ar aqvT. amas imitom vambob,<br />
rom aranairi qarTul-afxazuri<br />
eTnikuri dapirispireba ar<br />
arsebobs.<br />
aseve ar arsebobs qarTul-osuri<br />
eTnikuri dapirispireba _<br />
quTaissa da TbilisSi Cemi mezoblebi<br />
osebi arian, magram maT-<br />
Tan problemebi ar maqvs.<br />
mokled, prorusulad ganwyobili<br />
osebi da afxazebi separatistebi<br />
ki ara, kolaboracionistebi<br />
arian.<br />
_ separatistsa da kolabora-<br />
cionists Soris ra gansxvavebaa?<br />
_ mas, visac damoukidebloba ki<br />
ara, sxva qveyanasTan SeerTeba<br />
unda, kolaboracionisti hqvia.<br />
ase rom, saqarTveloSi terminologiuri<br />
da stereotipuli diversiaa.<br />
amis magaliTia Tundac<br />
mTavrobis mier Seqmnili Serigebis<br />
saministro. vis unda Sevurigde,<br />
roca afxazi da osic rusuli imperiisgan<br />
CemsaviT daCagrulia da<br />
Cven ruseTTan omi gvaqvs?! aseTi<br />
mamaZaRlobebi dRevandel mTavrobaSic<br />
arsebobs da, saerTod, am<br />
mTavrobaSi putCisturi mTavrobis<br />
mier Seqmnili azrovneba darCenilia!<br />
_ batono tariel, ambobT, rom<br />
9 aprili glovis dRe ar unda<br />
iyoso, magram faqtia: am dRes<br />
adamianebi daiRupnen da maT xs-<br />
ovnas pativi ar unda mivagoT?<br />
_ Zalian Wkviani Jurnalisti<br />
xarT, SegekiTxebiT da mipasuxeT:<br />
didgoris omis dros, Turq-seljukebTan<br />
brZolaSi, qarTveloba<br />
daiRupa Tu ara?<br />
_ amas ra kiTxva unda? _ ra<br />
Tqma unda, daiRupa!<br />
_ isini gmirebi arian!<br />
_ diax, asea!<br />
_ 9 aprili ruseTis imperiasTan<br />
omi iyo, ra drosac adamianebi<br />
daiRupnen da es adamianebi gmirebi<br />
arian! msxverpli maSinaa, roca,<br />
vTqvaT, xaragaulSi Cineli gvirabs<br />
aSenebs, es gvirabi Camoingreva da<br />
qarTveli an Cineli daiRupeba.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, 9 aprilis monawile<br />
mec var, magram roca 8 aprils<br />
rusTavelis gamzirze mivdiodi,<br />
ojaxs vuTxari, SeiZleba, cocxali<br />
ver davbrunde-meTqi, anu me<br />
saqarTvelosTvis omSi wavedi! es<br />
damoukideblobisTvis brZola iyo<br />
24<br />
`26 maiss saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
aRniSnva sruli gaugebrobaa imitom, rom<br />
viRacas ar awyobs, zviad gamsaxurdias mier<br />
Catarebuli referendumi da saqarTvelos<br />
damoukideblobis aRdgena wina planze<br />
wamoiwios. cota vulgarulad rom giTxraT,<br />
es klani saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi 1991-92<br />
wlebis putCis Semdeg movida. es klani<br />
sabWoTa kavSirs ubedurebad ar miiCnevda da<br />
es inercia dRemde grZeldeba~<br />
24 N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.
da roca brZolaa an mokvdebi, an<br />
gadarCebi! Tu am brZolaSi mokvdebi,<br />
gmiri xar da Tu gadarCebi,<br />
mainc gmiri xar!<br />
_ Tqveni argumenti absoluturad<br />
logikuria imis sademonstraciod,<br />
Tu ratom ar SeiZle-<br />
ba, 9 aprili glovis dRe iyos...<br />
sxvaTa Soris, damoukidebelma<br />
deputatma nato CxeiZem parla-<br />
ments kanonproeqti warudgina da<br />
moiTxova, rom saqarTvelos<br />
damoukidebloba 9 aprils ofi-<br />
cialurad aRiniSnos, Tumca<br />
kanonmdeblebma sakomiteto mos-<br />
menebze am iniciativas mxari ar<br />
dauWires. karga xania, SevardnaZis<br />
mmarTveloba warsuls Cabarda.<br />
Sesabamisad, batono tariel,<br />
politikuri elitis mier 9 apri-<br />
lis uaryofas riT xsniT?<br />
_ es imiT aixsneba, rom dRevandel<br />
xelisuflebaSi SevardnaZis<br />
mimdevari an misi stereotipiT<br />
moazrovne adamiani Zalian bevria!<br />
_ yvelafer aqedan gamom-<br />
dinare, SeiZleba vTqvaT, rom<br />
saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg rusuli<br />
hibriduli omi gamZafrebulia?<br />
_ diax, gamZafrebulia!<br />
dRes saqarTvelos Tavze Zalian<br />
bevri problema damokles maxviliviT<br />
kidia, maT Soris, rusuli<br />
okupacia, anakliis portis sakiTxi,<br />
dasavleTis gzajvaredini, anu<br />
ruseTisa da TurqeTis gamyarebuli<br />
kavSiris fonze dasavleTs er-<br />
TaderTi Sansi aqvs, rom aliansTan<br />
gza kavkasiaSi saqarTvelo iyos.<br />
mokled, yvelaferi es saqarTvelos<br />
Tavze Rrublebad aris Tavmoyrili<br />
da msoflio dapirispirebis<br />
epicentrSi varT. roca dapirispirebis<br />
epicentrSi xar, TavisTavad<br />
cxadia, rom agenturac Zalian<br />
gaaqtiurebulia da diversiuli<br />
Tu sainformacio omi zenitSia.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, is xanZrebic, rac<br />
bolo wlebSi saqarTveloSi moxda,<br />
swored am diversiis nawilia.<br />
piradad me ki, yvelaze metad is<br />
maRizianebs, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
saxelmwifo enis _ qarTulis sruli<br />
ignorireba xdeba, anu politikosebi,<br />
magaliTad, marneulSi rom<br />
Cadian, adgilobriv mosaxleobas<br />
ucxo enaze esaubrebian, ase iqcevian<br />
samegreloSic.<br />
mokled, yvelaferi es erT konteqstSia<br />
gasaazrebeli. politikuri<br />
speqtri ver acnobierebs,<br />
Tu ra terminologias iyenebs da<br />
amitom, avtomaturad, erT adgilze<br />
vtrialebT.<br />
aq erT Sedarebas moviyvan: imisTvis,<br />
rom moses xalxs udabno<br />
gadaelaxa, sami Tve sWirdeboda,<br />
magram sazogadoeba dezorientirebuli<br />
iyo da amitom am udabnos<br />
gadasalaxad 40 weli dasWirda.<br />
dRes Cveni sazogadoeba dezorientirebuli<br />
mxolod gaurkvevlobis<br />
ki ara, politikuri speqtrisa<br />
da telemediis gamoc aris.<br />
_ batono tariel, yvelaferi,<br />
rasac ambobT, mizanmimarTulad<br />
keTdeba?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda.<br />
_ politikuri speqtri sazogadoebis<br />
dezorientaciis miTiTe-<br />
bas, Tqveni azriT, saidan iRebs?<br />
_ politikuri speqtris didi<br />
nawili garedan dafinansebuli da<br />
marTvadia, nawili ki ucodinaria<br />
da problemebSi ver erkveva. politikuri<br />
speqtris nawili kargia,<br />
magram es nawili Zalian mcirea da<br />
misi xma ar ismis!<br />
_ konkretikaze gadavideT: magaliTad,<br />
roca salome zurabiSvili<br />
ambobs, rom 2008 wlis agvis-<br />
toSi omi saqarTvelom daiwyo, es<br />
ucodinarobis niadagze wamocdenaa<br />
Tu garedan marTva-dafinanse-<br />
bis Sedegia? sxvaTa Soris, axlax-<br />
an genStabis ufrosma brZana,<br />
saqarTvelom sami samoqalaqo omi<br />
gadaitanao da es gancxadeba<br />
rusul narativad moinaTla...<br />
_ genStabis ufross saqarTvelos<br />
istoriaze warmodgenac ar<br />
aqvs, radgan saqarTveloSi erTi<br />
samoqalaqo omic ar yofila!<br />
_ aba, 1991-92 wlebis sisxliani<br />
movlenebi ra iyo?<br />
_ 1991-92 wlebSi zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
xelisufleba rusis jarma<br />
daamxo. 1992-93 wlebSi soxumsa da<br />
cxinvalSic ruseTi gvebrZoda, magram,<br />
rogorc ityvian, leRvis<br />
foTlad qarTvelebis, afxazebisa<br />
da osebis nawili hyavda afarebuli!<br />
saerTod, bolo ori saukunis<br />
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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
dabeWdeT!~<br />
`Tu ivaniSvili<br />
gamsaxurdias mkvlelobas<br />
da mis Tanmdev movlenebs<br />
ar gamoiZiebs, es misTvis<br />
katastrofa iqneba, magram<br />
Tu gamoiZiebs, es misi<br />
gadarCena iqneba!~<br />
ganmavlobaSi rusebma kavkasielebis<br />
winaaRmdeg kavkasielebive araerTxel<br />
gamoiyenes!<br />
rac Seexeba zurabiSvilis frazas,<br />
omi saqarTvelom daiwyoo,<br />
rogorc vici, mere ganmarta, ase ar<br />
miTqvamso. ar vici, zurabiSvils<br />
gulSi ra hqonda da ra wamoscda,<br />
magram erT Zalian martiv da zust<br />
frazas getyviT: ruseTma saqarTveloSi<br />
da, zogadad, kavkasiaSi omi<br />
zustad ori saukunis win, anu ma-<br />
Sin daiwyo, roca saqarTveloSi mefoba<br />
da eklesiis avtokefalia<br />
gaauqma. amiT gaanadgura Cveni kultura<br />
da yvelaferi. es oraswliani<br />
omi dRemde grZeldeba!<br />
ruseTis mizania, rom geostrategiulad<br />
saintereso kavkasia<br />
Tavis interesebs dauqvemdebaros<br />
da mas qarTvelebic fexze hkidia,<br />
somxebic, azerbaijanelebic, CeCnebic,<br />
afsuebic, inguSebic da a. S.!<br />
_ batono tariel, kidev erTi<br />
Tema, romelic pirdapir Tu iri-<br />
bad rusul okupacias ebmis,<br />
saqarTvelos pirveli preziden-<br />
tis, zviad gamsaxurdias mkvlel-<br />
obaa. es sakiTxi bolo dros „qar-<br />
Tulma ocnebam” gaaaqtiura _ yve-<br />
lafers Tavi rom davaneboT, biZ-<br />
ina ivaniSvili xibulaSi Cavida da<br />
is saxli moinaxula, sadac gamsax-<br />
urdia aResrula. es Cveulebrivi,<br />
lokaluri piaria Tu rusuli<br />
hibriduli omis nawili?<br />
_ qveteqstebis gareSe gipasuxebT,<br />
oRond yvelaferi dabeWdeT.<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, yvelafers si-<br />
tyva-sityviT gamovaqveynebT!<br />
_ roca 2004 wlis 4 ianvars mixeil<br />
saakaSvili saqarTvelos prezidenti<br />
gaxda, meore dRes, 5 ianvars,<br />
misive TxovniT Sevxvdi mas.<br />
miSasTan garkveuli urTierToba<br />
adrec mqonda da presaSi Cven Soris<br />
polemikac arsebobda. mokled,<br />
am Sexvedris Semdeg gadawyda, ufro<br />
sworad, rogorc prezidentma,<br />
gadawyvita, rom saxelmwifo komisia<br />
Seeqmna, romlis mizanic zviad<br />
gamsaxurdias mkvlelobisa da misi<br />
Tanmdevi procesebis gamoZieba iqneboda.<br />
prezident saakaSvilis gankargulebis<br />
teqstSi ikiTxeboda,<br />
rom es gamsaxurdias mkvlelobisa<br />
da putCis gamosaZiebeli komisia<br />
iyo. am komisiis wevrebi viyaviT: me,<br />
merabiSvili, adeiSvili, oqruaSvili,<br />
manana tabiZe, merab rafava<br />
da giorgi andriaZe.<br />
amave komisiis farglebSi prokuraturis<br />
komisiac Seiqmna, romelmac<br />
ori-sami Tve imuSava da daadgina,<br />
rom gamsaxurdia damnaSave<br />
ar iyo da araferi gautacia. amitom<br />
dadga sakiTxi, rom is gamogveZiebina,<br />
gamsaxurdias, rogorc damnaSavis<br />
winaaRmdeg, saqme vin aRZra,<br />
anu, realurad, SevardnaZis saqme<br />
unda gamogveZiebina, magram, ai, aq<br />
saakaSvili „gaiWeda”.<br />
_ ras niSnavs, „gaiWeda”?<br />
_ gamoZieba aRar gagvagrZelebina<br />
da Cvendami mocemuli piroba-gankarguleba,<br />
rom gamsaxurdias<br />
mkvlelobas gamoiZiebda, gaaCera.<br />
es saqme dRemde gaCerebulia.<br />
zogadad, gamsaxurdias mkvlelobis<br />
gamoZieba mxolod am mkvlelobis<br />
ki ara, aramed, putCisa da<br />
sxva Tanmdevi movlenebis gamoZiebac<br />
unda iyos, rac saerTaSoriso<br />
Temebze gadis.<br />
_ anu?<br />
_ gamsaxurdias xelisufleba<br />
baltinTan garigebiT daemxo.<br />
_ batono tariel, mapatieT,<br />
magram me sxva kiTxva davsvi, anu<br />
„ocnebas” gamsaxurdias saqmis gacocxleba<br />
raSi awyobs _ pia-<br />
risTvis iyenebs?<br />
_ yvelafer amas imitom giyvebiT,<br />
rom es istoriaa.<br />
_ am istoriaze „qronika+~-ma<br />
ramdenime kviris win merab<br />
rafavasTan vrceli interviu ga-<br />
moaqveyna.<br />
_ dRes ivaniSvili ambobs, rom<br />
gamsaxurdias mkvleloba gamoZiebuli<br />
unda iyos. es saakaSvilmac<br />
Tqva, magram ver ganaxorciela, anu<br />
SeiZleba, es gancxadeba ivaniSvilma<br />
winasaarCevnod gaakeTa, magram<br />
arsebobs albaToba, rom araferi<br />
gamoiZios, Tumca SeiZleba, gamoiZios<br />
kidec. mokled, vnaxoT.<br />
_ batono tariel, meCveneba,<br />
rom kiTxvaze ar mpasuxobT, amit-<br />
om CagekiTxebiT: marTalia, roca<br />
gazeTi daibeWdeba, 19 maisis<br />
arCevnebi ukve Catarebuli iqne-<br />
ba, magram zugdidSi manana arCv-<br />
aZis Casvlam bevrs gauCina eWvi,<br />
rom „ocneba” gamsaxurdias ojaxs<br />
politikuri piarisTvis iyenebs.<br />
aqve arc is unda dagvaviwydes,<br />
rom is, vinc samegreloSi „ocneb-<br />
is” erT-erTi saxea, gamsaxurdias<br />
devnis operaciaSi monawileobda<br />
da amaze cotne gamsaxurdiam Riad<br />
ganacxada. erTi sityviT, Tqveni<br />
SefasebiT, es ra TamaSia?<br />
_ imaze pasuxi, vin ra TamaSs TamaSobs,<br />
ar maqvs, magram im Temaze,<br />
rac mkiTxeT, konkretulad gipasuxebT:<br />
putCisa da zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
mkvlelobis gamoZiebaze ivaniSvilisa<br />
da misi xelisuflebis gancxadebebi<br />
winasaarCevno dapirebaa<br />
Tu realoba, ai, es aris gasarkvevi.<br />
Tu ivaniSvili gamsaxurdias mkvlelobas<br />
da mis Tanmdev movlenebs<br />
ar gamoiZiebs, es misTvis katastrofa<br />
iqneba, magram Tu gamoiZiebs,<br />
es misi gadarCena iqneba!<br />
_ saubars isev rusuli hibrid-<br />
uli omiT davasruleb, Tqveni<br />
dakvirvebiT, kremlisgan ra sa-<br />
frTxes unda velodoT?<br />
_ saqarTvelos Zalian didi safrTxeebi<br />
elis imitom, rom ruseTs<br />
giumris bazasTan saxmeleTo<br />
kavSiri de iured ar gaaCnia. amas-<br />
Tan, ruseTs Tavisi imperiuli ambiciebisTvis<br />
kavkasiis kontroli<br />
sWirdeba.<br />
erTi sityviT, saqarTvelo,<br />
rogorc ityvian, saxmeleTo da<br />
sahaero xazebis didi yuradRebis<br />
centrSia. amitom ar vfiqrob, rom<br />
mSvidi cxovrebis perspeqtiva gvaqvs,<br />
Tumca RmerTma icis, procesebi<br />
rogor ganviTardeba _ iqneb,<br />
saqarTvelo gadarCes!<br />
_ opoziciuri speqtris nawili<br />
amtkicebs, rom xelisufleba<br />
saqarTvelos ruseTs abarebs. amis<br />
niSnebs xedavT?<br />
_ ara, am niSnebs ver vxedav!<br />
_ ucnauria!<br />
_ piriqiT, vxedav, rom amerikis<br />
SeerTebuli StatebisTvis aziasa<br />
da, kerZod, kavkasiaSi, erTaderTi<br />
dasayrdeni saqarTveloa da Tu<br />
Wkua eyofa, Cveni damoukidebloba<br />
da aseve qarTul faseulobebze<br />
orientirebuli saxelmwifo struqturebi<br />
unda ganaviTaros!<br />
im SemTxvevaSi, Tu saqarTvelo<br />
antidasavlurad ganwyobili Zalebis<br />
xelSi Cavardeba da aseTi Zala<br />
marto ruseTi ar aris, maSin dasavleTi<br />
ekonomikuri da sxva mimarTulebebiTac<br />
bevrs waagebs!<br />
_ yvelaferi es gasagebia, magram<br />
qarTul politikur speqtr-<br />
Si rusuli specsamsaxurebis gav-<br />
lenas grZnobT?<br />
_ es sxva kiTxvaa, romelzedac<br />
ase gipasuxebT: Cveni politikuri<br />
speqtri saqarTvelos winaSe mdgari<br />
gamowvevebisadmi araadekvaturia!<br />
_ Cveni mTavari gamowveva ra<br />
aris?<br />
_ mTavari gamowveva is aris, rom<br />
rusul okupacias Tavi davaRwioT!<br />
_ bolo Svidi welia, mcocavi<br />
okupacia mZvinvarebs da rusul<br />
okupacias Tavi rogor unda da-<br />
vaRwioT?<br />
_ rusul okupacias Tavi rom<br />
davaRwioT, amisTvis saWiroa, wina<br />
planze saqarTvelos erTguli<br />
politikuri speqtri gamovides!<br />
zogadad, politikuri speqtri<br />
qveynis mesaWea, amitom es saWe aTas<br />
partiagamocvlil da gaurkveveli<br />
orientirebis mqone adamianebs ar<br />
unda epyraT!<br />
_ erovnul interesebze orien-<br />
tirebuli politikuri speqtri<br />
wina planze TavisiT gamova Tu<br />
amas sazogadoebam unda Seuwyos<br />
xeli?<br />
_ amas dro unda.<br />
_ 30 welia, es dro riT ver<br />
movida?<br />
_ weRan xom giTxariT, rom<br />
moses xalxs udabnos gadasalaxavad<br />
sami Tve sWirdeboda. sanam sazogadoebaSi<br />
saqarTvelos erTguli<br />
adamianebi ar gaaqtiurdebian<br />
da cxrapartiagamocvlil xalxs<br />
ar gaamarginaleben, manamde saqar-<br />
Tvelos bednieri cxovreba ar uweria!<br />
Tu mosaxleoba da politikuri<br />
speqtri erTiani iqneba, win<br />
iolad da swrafad wavalT!<br />
_ dRes politikuri speqtri<br />
gamyidvelia?<br />
_ diax, dRes arsebuli politikuri<br />
speqtris didi nawili sando<br />
ar aris!<br />
_ am mocemulobidan gamomdinare,<br />
nato da evrokavSiri Ta-<br />
vianT rigebSi ratom ar gviReben?<br />
_ dasavleTma Secdoma araerTxel<br />
dauSva, maT Soris, 90-ian wleb-<br />
Si, roca gamsaxurdias mxari ar<br />
dauWira da, saboloo jamSi, baltinis<br />
garigebis tyve aRmoCnda. dasavleTma<br />
Secdoma 2008-Sic dauSva,<br />
roca mapi ar mogvca da ruseTs<br />
saqarTveloSi SemoWris Sansi misca.<br />
dasavleTi Secdomas axlac<br />
uSvebs _ dasavleTi saqarTvelos<br />
ki ar sWirdeba, aramed ufro mas<br />
vWirdebiT, magram dasavleTs ruseTTan<br />
urTierTobis garTulebis<br />
eSinia da amitom Cven gvwiravs!<br />
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Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
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wlebis ganmavlobaSi atmos-<br />
feruli haeris dabinZureba fasdeboda „garemos xarisxobrivi<br />
mdgomareobis normebis damtkicebis Sesaxeb” jandacvis minis-<br />
tris 2001 wlis 16 agvistos #297/n brZanebis Sesabamisad, rom-<br />
liTac dadgenili mavne nivTierebebis zRvruli mniSvnelobebi<br />
ar Seesabameboda evrokavSiris standartebs. amasTan, doku-<br />
mentiT saerTod ar iyo reglamentirebuli calkeuli<br />
sagulisxmo damabinZureblebis (myari nawilakebi (PM10 da PM2.5)<br />
zRvruli mniSvnelobebi. aRniSnuli problema, normatiul<br />
doneze, aRmoifxvra saqarTvelos mTavrobis 2018 wlis 27 ivlisis<br />
#383 dadgenilebiT damtkicebuli teqnikuri regla-<br />
mentiT _ „atmosferuli haeris xarisxis standartebi”.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
dabinZurebuli<br />
skandaluri faqtebi, statistikuri monacemebi,<br />
gamoTxovili angariSebi da meriis tyuilebi<br />
magram ra?<br />
ombudsmenis aparatma ssip garemos<br />
erovnuli saagentodan gamoiTxova<br />
informacia imis Sesaxeb,<br />
Tu 2017-2018 wlebSi ramden SemTxvevaSi<br />
gamovlinda atmosferul<br />
haerSi damabinZurebeli nivTierebebis<br />
zRvruli koncentraciis<br />
gadaWarbeba da ra maCvenebliT.<br />
dasaxelebuli monacemebi, moTxovnili<br />
saxiT, aparats ar moewoda.<br />
amis Semdeg avtomaturi sadgurebidan<br />
miRebuli damabinZureblebis<br />
saSualo Tviuri koncentraciebisa<br />
da meore mxriv, araavtomaturi<br />
sadgurebidan miRebuli damabinZureblebis<br />
maqsimaluri erTjeradi<br />
koncentraciebiT iqna gamoyvanili<br />
dabinZurebis saSualo<br />
maCvenebeli.<br />
kerZod, TbilisSi, quTaisSi, ba-<br />
Tumsa da WiaTuraSi ganTavsebuli<br />
avtomaturi sadgurebidan miRebuli<br />
monacemebi (ZiriTadi damabin-<br />
Zureblebis saSualo Tviuri koncentraciebi)<br />
erTi kalendaruli<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi, TiTqmis yvela<br />
damabinZureblis koncentraciebi<br />
sakmaod xSirad aRemateba zRvrulad<br />
dasaSveb normebs sxvadasxva<br />
lokaciaze. es monacemebi kidev er-<br />
Txel adasturebs qveyanaSi haeris<br />
dabinZurebis problemis simwvaves.<br />
atmosferuli haeris dabinZureba<br />
msoflios winaSe mdgari erTerTi<br />
umniSvnelovanesi gamowvevaa.<br />
igi dakavSirebulia garemosdamcvel<br />
da socialur problemebTan.<br />
dabinZureba xdeba rogorc anTropogenuli<br />
anu adamianis moqmedebebiT<br />
gamowveuli, ise bunebrivi<br />
wyaroebidan damabinZureblebis<br />
pirdapir gafrqvevis gziT. Sedegad,<br />
mavne nivTierebebis koncentracia<br />
uaryofiTad aisaxeba cocxali<br />
organizmebis janmrTelobaze,<br />
es ki umwvavesad zemoqmedebs rogorc<br />
sazogadoebis ToToeul wevrze,<br />
ise qveynis ekonomikaze.<br />
sanam Tbilisis yvelaze dabinZurebul<br />
zonebze gadavidodeT,<br />
jer damabinZureblebi CamovTvaloT.<br />
saqarTveloSi atmosferuli<br />
haeris mniSvnelovani damabin-<br />
Zureblebia: gogirdis dioqsidi<br />
(SO2), azotis dioqsidi (NO2), azotis<br />
oqsidebi (NOx), naxSirbadis<br />
monoqsidi (CO), miwispira ozoni<br />
(O3) da mtvris mcire zomis myari<br />
nawilakebi (PM10, PM2.5).<br />
haeris dabinZurebis adamianis<br />
moqmedebebiT gamowveul faq-<br />
torebs miekuTvneba _ satransporto<br />
gamonabolqvi, wvis procesi,<br />
sasoflo-sameurneo aqtivobebi,<br />
samrewvelo saqmianobebi da a.S.<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi moqmedebs ori<br />
ZiriTadi dokumenti, romelmac,<br />
wesiT, es sakiTxi unda daareguliros.<br />
es aris: saqarTvelos kanoni<br />
„garemos dacvis Sesaxeb” da saqarTvelos<br />
kanoni „atmosferuli<br />
haeris dacvis Sesaxeb” (aseve maTgan<br />
gamomdinare kanonqvemdebare<br />
normatiuli aqtebi). Tumca uSualod<br />
atmosferuli haeris dacva<br />
mavne anTropogenuri zemoqmedebisgan<br />
„atmosferuli haeris dacvis<br />
Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos kanonis regulirebis<br />
sferos ganekuTvneba. es<br />
kanoni qmnis atmosferul haerSi<br />
mavne nivTierebaTa koncentraciis<br />
zRvrulad dasaSveb normebs.<br />
gogirdis dioqsidis (SO2) emisiis<br />
ZiriTad wyaros gogirdSemcveli<br />
sawvavis wva warmoadgens. gafrqvevebi<br />
ZiriTadad mazuTze an qvanaxSirze<br />
momuSave eleqtrosadgurebidan,<br />
saqvabeebidan, metalurgiuli<br />
sawarmoebidan, gogirdis ma-<br />
Rali Semcvelobis saavtomobilo<br />
sawvavis moxmarebidan xdeba.<br />
azotis dioqsidebis (NO2) gafrqvevis<br />
ZiriTadi wyaroa avtomobilebis<br />
gamonabolqvi, bunebrivi<br />
airis namwvi, Tboeleqtrosadgurebis<br />
gamonabolqvi, narCenebis wvis<br />
dros warmoqmnili kvamli da a. S.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom dizelis moxmarebis<br />
Sedegad ufro didi raodenobis<br />
azotis dioqsidi gaifrqveva,<br />
vidre sawvavis moxmarebis<br />
Sedegad.<br />
naxSirbadis monoqsidi (CO) warmoiqmneba<br />
sawvavis arasruli wvisas.<br />
emisiis ZiriTadi wyaroa nav-<br />
Tobisa da qvanaxSiris wva, metalurgiuli<br />
warmoeba, avtotransportis<br />
gamonabolqvi Sidawvis Zravis<br />
gaumarTaobis Sedegad.<br />
miwispira ozoni (O3) haerSi pirdapir<br />
ar gaifrqveva. misi formirebis<br />
procesi kompleqsuria da damokidebulia<br />
mzis sinaTleze, geografiul<br />
faqtorebsa da pirvelad<br />
damabinZureblebze. fotoqimiuri<br />
reaqciebis Sedegad warmoqmnili<br />
ozonis koncentraciis mateba atmosferos<br />
qveda fenebSi SeiniSneba<br />
zafxulis periodSi dRis sinaTleze.<br />
haerSi arsebuli ozonisa da<br />
pirveladi damabinZureblebis raodenobrivi<br />
Tanafardoba meryeobs<br />
adgilmdebareobis, sezonisa da temperaturis<br />
Sesabamisad.<br />
`vaSingtonis universitetis janmrTelobis<br />
gazomvebisa da Sefasebis institutis mier<br />
Catarebuli daavadebaTa globaluri tvirTis<br />
Sefasebis mixedviT, saqarTvelosTvis<br />
mniSvnelovani da wamyvani risk-faqtorebis<br />
nusxaSi haeris dabinZurebas, maRali<br />
arteriuli wnevis, kvebiTi riskebis, Tambaqos<br />
moxmarebis maRali donisa da Warbi wonis<br />
Semdeg me-5 adgili uWiravs~<br />
myari nawilakebi (PM) umniSvnelovanesi<br />
damabinZurebelia, romelic<br />
Tavisi qimiuri SemadgenlobiT<br />
da zomiT gansxvavebulia. gafrqvevebis<br />
wyaroebia _ avtotransporti,<br />
samrewvelo procesebi,<br />
soflis meurneoba da sxva saxis<br />
anTropogenuli mtveri.<br />
zemoT CamoTvlili maxasiaTeblebi<br />
aRebulia evropis garemos<br />
dacvis saagentos monacemebidan<br />
(EEA), 2017.<br />
TiToeuli xsenebuli damabin-<br />
Zurebeli mniSvnelovnad aris dakavSirebuli<br />
sikvdilianobisa da avadobis<br />
maCvenebelTan, Tumca myari<br />
nawilakebi gacilebiT mavnebelia<br />
adamianis janmrTelobisTvis, vidre<br />
sxva nebismieri nivTiereba.<br />
mtvris myari nawilakebi Sedgeba<br />
haerSi moxvedrili organuli da<br />
araorganuli nivTierebebis myari<br />
da Txevadi nawilakebis rTuli narevisgan.<br />
maTi mTavari komponentebia<br />
sulfatebi, nitratebi, amiaki,<br />
natriumis qloridi, Savi naxSirbadi,<br />
mineraluri mtveri da wyali.<br />
janmrTelobis msoflio organizaciis<br />
(WHO) SefasebiT, aRniSnuli<br />
myari nawilakebi miiCnevian<br />
yvelaze saSiSad janmrTelobis-<br />
Tvis, radgan SeswevT unari, SeaRwion<br />
bronqiolebis periferiul<br />
ubnebSi da Seaferxon haercvla.<br />
saqarTveloSi haers zemoxsenebul<br />
mavne nivTierebebTan erTad<br />
abinZurebs iseTi mavne nivTierebebic,<br />
rogorebicaa aqroladi organuli<br />
naerTebi (aon) da amiaki<br />
(NH3). aqroladi organuli naerTebis<br />
gafrqvevis wyaroa qimikatebi,<br />
gamxsnelebi da sawvavi, amiakis emisia<br />
ki soflis meurneobisa da nar-<br />
Cenebis marTvasTan aris dakavSirebuli.<br />
gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />
aqrolad organul naerTebs mniSvnelovani<br />
wvlili miuZRvis troposferuli<br />
ozonis warmoqmnaSi,<br />
rac negatiurad aisaxeba adamianis<br />
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frqvevebis SemTxvevebze saTanado<br />
reagirebasa da qmediTi prevenciuli<br />
RonisZiebebis dagegmvis Sesa-<br />
Zleblobas. Sesabamisad, mniSvnelovania,<br />
zemoaRniSnuli procesebi<br />
warimarTos droulad da asocirebis<br />
SeTanxmebiT dadgenili moTxovnebis<br />
maqsimalurad dacviT.<br />
satransporto seqtori saqarTveloSi,<br />
iseve rogorc msoflios<br />
masStabiT, atmosferuli haeris<br />
erT-erTi umTavresi damabinZurebeli<br />
wyaroa, ramdenadac avtotransportis<br />
gamonabolqvi Seicavs<br />
TiTqmis yvela im ZiriTad mavne<br />
nivTierebas, romelic zemoT CamovTvaleT.<br />
maT udidesi negatiuri<br />
gavlena aqvs adamianis janmrTelobaze.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom transportidan<br />
gafrqveuli damabinZureblebis<br />
mniSvnelovani nawili xels<br />
uwyobs klimatis cvlilebas, rac<br />
kidev ufro zrdis sferos saTanadod<br />
regulirebis saWiroebas. saqarTveloSi<br />
problemis aqtualurobas<br />
ganapirobebs qveyanaSi avtoparkis<br />
yovelwliuri zrda. Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa saministros sainformacio-analitikuri<br />
departamentis<br />
sainformacio centris mier<br />
Catarebuli kvlevis Sesabamisad,<br />
2016 wels zrdis maCvenebelma 8%<br />
Seadgina, xolo 2014 welTan SedarebiT,<br />
qveyanaSi avtomobilebis raodenoba<br />
16,8%-iT gaizarda. gasqalaqi<br />
janmrTelobaze. Tavis mxriv, amiaki<br />
mniSvnelovnad uwyobs xels mtvris<br />
myari nawilakebis formirebas.<br />
arada, saqarTvelos evropasTan<br />
asocirebis SeTanxmebiT nakisri<br />
calkeuli valdebulebebi dakav-<br />
Sirebulia swored aqroladi organuli<br />
naerTebis gafrqvevis SemcirebasTan.<br />
ramdenad sruldeba is?<br />
janmrTelobis msoflio organizaciis<br />
(WHO) monacemebiT, atmosferuli<br />
haeris dabinZureba<br />
sikvdilianobisa da daavadebaTa<br />
gamomwvevi erT-erTi umTavresi<br />
mizezia. 2012 wels globaluri sikvdilianobis<br />
yoveli cxra SemTxvevidan<br />
erTi Sida da atmosferuli<br />
haeris dabinZurebis zemoqmedebis<br />
Sedegi iyo. maTgan, daaxloebiT,<br />
milioni SemTxveva uSualod<br />
atmosferuli haeris dabinZurebasTan<br />
iyo dakavSirebuli. 2016<br />
wels atmosferuli haeris dabin-<br />
Zureba msoflios masStabiT 4.2 milioni<br />
adamianis naadrevi sikvdilis<br />
mizezi gaxda. erToblivad, Sida<br />
da atmosferuli haeris dabinZurebam<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
7 milioni adamianis sicocxle<br />
Seiwira, da, Sesabamisad, sikvdilianobis<br />
yoveli rva SemTxvevidan<br />
erTi gamoiwvia.<br />
yvelas kargad unda gvaxsovdes,<br />
rom haerSi mavne nivTierebaTa koncentracia<br />
aris simsivneebis, insultis,<br />
gul-sisxlZarRvTa, respiratoruli<br />
da sxva saxis daavadebebis<br />
gamomwvevi mizezi. xolo aragadamdebi<br />
daavadebebi kvlav rCeba<br />
sikvdilianobis umTavres mizezad<br />
(sikvdilianobis 94%). amas-<br />
Tan, vaSingtonis universitetis<br />
janmrTelobis gazomvebisa da Sefasebis<br />
institutis mier Catarebuli<br />
daavadebaTa globaluri tvirTis<br />
Sefasebis mixedviT, saqarTvelosTvis<br />
mniSvnelovani da wamyvani<br />
risk-faqtorebis nusxaSi haeris<br />
dabinZurebas, maRali arteriuli<br />
wnevis, kvebiTi riskebis, Tambaqos<br />
moxmarebis maRali donisa da<br />
Warbi wonis Semdeg me-5 adgili<br />
uWiravs. miuxedavad amisa, qveyana-<br />
Si ar mimdinareobs janmrTelobis<br />
msoflio organizaciis mier rekomendebuli<br />
parametrebis mixedviT<br />
haeris dabinZurebis zusti gavlenis<br />
Sefaseba mosaxleobis janmrTelobaze,<br />
ris umTavres mizezadac<br />
haeris xarisxis monitoringis arsebuli<br />
sistema saxeldeba, romelic<br />
haeris dabinZurebis srulfasovan<br />
suraTs ar iZleva. am konteqstSi<br />
agreTve sayuradReboa, rom<br />
saqarTveloSi sikvdilis mizezebis<br />
gamovlenis xarisxi seriozuli<br />
gamowvevaa. Sesabamisad, arsebuli<br />
realobis farglebSi, rTulia<br />
danamdvilebiT iTqvas, Tu konkretulad<br />
romeli damabinZureblebi<br />
qmnian qveyanaSi mometebul safrTxes<br />
janmrTelobisTvis da ra<br />
saxis daavadebebis warmoqmnas ganapirobeben<br />
isini metwilad.<br />
saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuris<br />
2018 wlis 31 ianvris efeqtianobis<br />
auditis angariSSi miTiTebuli monacemebi,<br />
romlis Tanaxmadac, im<br />
daavadebebis mkurnalobaze, romelTac<br />
iwvevs calkeuli damabin-<br />
Zureblebi (NO2, SO2, CO, O3, PM10<br />
da PM2.5), 2016 wels saxelmwifo<br />
biujetidan gaweulia 120,050,566<br />
laris xarji, saidanac saxsrebis<br />
daaxloebiT 60% TbilisSi arsebul<br />
klinikebzea gadaricxuli.<br />
dReisTvis qveyanaSi haeris dabinZurebaze<br />
dakvirveba warmoebs<br />
eqvs qalaqSi (TbilisSi (wereTlisa<br />
da yazbegis gamz., varkeTili, vaSlijvari),<br />
rusTavSi (baTumis q.),<br />
quTaisSi (asaTianis q.), baTumSi<br />
(qaTamaZisa da abuseriZis q.), zestafonsa<br />
(SaTiriSvilis q.) da Wia-<br />
TuraSi (ninoSvilis q.) ganTavsebul<br />
10 sadamkvirveblo sadguris<br />
saSualebiT.<br />
amasTanave, atmosferuli haeris<br />
xarisxis monitoringis mizniT,<br />
saqarTvelos 25 qalaqSi xorcieldeba<br />
indikatoruli gazomvebi.<br />
TbilisSi ganTavsebul sam avtomatur<br />
sadgurze da erT mobilur<br />
sadgurze, quTaisis erT da<br />
baTumSi, abuseriZis quCaze ganTavsebul<br />
avtomatur sadgurze isazRvreba<br />
Semdegi mavne nivTierebebis<br />
koncentraciebi: naxSirbadis<br />
monoqsidi (CO), gogirdis dioqsidi<br />
(SO2), azotis dioqsidi (NO2),<br />
azotis oqsidi (NO), NOx da myari<br />
nawilakebi (PM10, PM2.5), xolo Wia-<br />
Turasa da baTumSi, qaTamaZis qu-<br />
Caze ganTavsebul avtomatur sadgurebze<br />
uwyvet reJimSi xorcieldeba<br />
dakvirveba naxSirbadis monoqsidze<br />
(CO), gogirdis dioqsidze<br />
(SO2), azotis dioqsidsa (NO2) da<br />
myar nawilakebze (PM10, PM2.5.). rusTavis<br />
araavtomatur jixurze<br />
warmoebs mtvris, naxSirbadis monoqsidisa<br />
da azotis dioqsidis, xolo<br />
zestafonSi _ mtvris, naxSirbadis<br />
monoqsidis, azotis, gogirdisa<br />
da manganumis dioqsidis koncentraciebis<br />
gansazRvra.<br />
miuxedavad am CamonaTvalisa,<br />
saqarTvelos masStabiT is haeris<br />
dabinZurebis srulfasovan suraTs<br />
ar iZleva. am TvalsazrisiT,<br />
aRsaniSnavia sadgurebis mcire<br />
raodenoba, romelic ar faravs<br />
qveynis teritorias srulad, maT<br />
Soris, im teritoriebs, sadac arsebobs<br />
dabinZurebis mometebuli<br />
riskebi. kerZod, danaklisia TbilisSi,<br />
rusTavSi, zestafonSi, ba-<br />
TumSi, quTaisSi, TelavSi, zugdid-<br />
Si, gorSi, axalcixeSi, mcxeTaSi,<br />
kaspSi, ozurgeTSi, samtrediaSi,<br />
senakSi, xaSurSi, foTSi, WiaTura-<br />
Si, lanCxuTSi, saCxereSi, tyibul-<br />
Si, CxorowyuSi, marneulSi, bolnisSi,<br />
siRnaRSi da yazbegSi. diax,<br />
diax! yazbegSic!<br />
axla, erTi Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
informacia „qronika+~-is mki-<br />
TxvelTaTvis:<br />
garemos erovnuli saagentos<br />
cnobiT, maTi uwyeba aqtiurad TanamSromlobs<br />
Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />
universitetTan, romlis laboratoria<br />
iulixis kvleviTi centris<br />
mecnier-TanamSromlebTan erTad<br />
CaerTo aRniSnul kvlevaSi. saagentos<br />
miTiTebiT, atmosferuli haeris<br />
xarisxis modelirebisa da<br />
prognozirebis sistemis Camoyalibebas<br />
aferxebs sxvadasxva saxis<br />
zusti da sando sawyisi monacemebis<br />
(informacia satransporto nakadebis,<br />
sxvadasxva tipis avtotransportis<br />
wili saerTo raodenobaSi<br />
da sxv.) simwire an ararseboba.<br />
amasTan, mniSvnelovania isic,<br />
rom 2019 wlamde qveyanaSi srulad<br />
ar moqmedebda avtosatransporto<br />
saSualebebis savaldebulo perioduli<br />
inspeqtireba, ris gamoc<br />
ver dgindeboda avtosatransporto<br />
saSualebebis moZraobis dros<br />
`Tbilisis satransporto kompaniidan miRebuli uaxlesi informaciis<br />
Sesabamisad, mocemuli etapisTvis, yoveldRiurad xazze samuSaod gadis 552<br />
avtobusi. zogadad, 2016 wlidan dRemde Tbilisis satransporto kompaniis<br />
balansze iricxeba 817 avtobusi, aqedan - `bogdan A092~-is markis 521 (maTi<br />
gamoSvebis wlebi: 2005 wels - 87 avtobusi, 2006 wels - 57 avtobusi, 2007<br />
wels - 364 avtobusi da 2008 wels - 13 avtobusi, 14 avtobusi eqvemdebareba<br />
Camoweras, yvela maTgani muSaobs dizelis sawvavze); `bogdan A1445"-is markis<br />
- 148 (gamoSvebis welia 2008, muSaobs dizelis sawvavze); `manis~ markis 143<br />
(maTi gamoSvebis wlebia 2016 wels - 40 avtobusi, 2017 wels - 103 avtobusi,<br />
muSaobs bunebrivi airis sawvavze); `mersedes-0345-is~ markis 5 erTeuli<br />
(gamoSvebis welia 1997. 2018 wlis 15 aprilidan ar aris eqspluataciaSi,<br />
muSaobda dizelis sawvavze)~<br />
atmosferul haerSi gafrqveuli<br />
mavne nivTierebebis raodenoba.<br />
aseve gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />
bevri damabinZurebeli, romelsac<br />
axali teqnikuri reglamenti _ atmosferuli<br />
haeris xarisxis standartebi<br />
hfaravs, saqarTveloSi<br />
saerTod ar izomeba. aseTebia: dariSxani,<br />
kadmiumi, vercxliswyali,<br />
nikeli da benz(a)pireni an sxva policikluri<br />
aromatuli naxSirwyalbadebi.<br />
ai, ase!<br />
ssip garemos erovnuli saagentodan<br />
miRebuli informaciiT, uwyeba<br />
kompetenciis farglebSi gegmavs<br />
zemoaRniSnuli dokumentiT<br />
gansazRvruli nivTierebis dakvirvebis<br />
etapobriv danergvas, magram<br />
dakvirveba ras mogvcems?! maTive<br />
cnobiT, amJamad atmosferuli haeris<br />
laboratorias aqvs amisTvis<br />
saWiro xelsawyoebi, Tumca dasanergia<br />
atmosferuli haeris sinjebis<br />
aRebisa da damuSavebis meTodebi.<br />
rac ar am etapze, ar gaaCnia!<br />
saxalxo damcvelis rekomendaciiT,<br />
qveynis masStabiT atmosferuli<br />
haeris monitoringis srulyofili<br />
qselis Camoyalibeba<br />
pirdapir ukavSirdeba rogorc<br />
adamianis janmrTelobaze konkretuli<br />
damabinZureblebisa da maTi<br />
wyaroebis gavlenis Sefasebis, aseve<br />
arsebuli da mosalodneli ga-<br />
aTvaliswinebelia, rom 2016 wlis<br />
monacemebiT, avtoparkis 46% (550<br />
634 manqanaze gaTvlili) 20 welze<br />
Zveli iyo. amasTan, 2016 wlis monacemebiT,<br />
importirebuli avtomanqanebis<br />
75% benzinis Zraviani<br />
iyo, 18% _ dizelis Zraviani, 0.8%<br />
_ airze momuSave, xolo 5.7% _<br />
hibridi. 2018 wels avtoparkis<br />
zrdis maCvenebelma, 2016 welTan<br />
SedarebiT, 9.3% Seadgina. amasTan,<br />
2018 wlis monacemebiT, avtoparkis<br />
45.5% (593 141 manqanaze gaTvlili)<br />
20 welze Zveli iyo. rac Seexeba<br />
2018 wlis mdgomareobiT registrirebuli<br />
avtosatransporto saSualebebis<br />
ZravaTa tips, saqarTvelos<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros<br />
mier mowodebuli erTiani bazis<br />
Sesabamisad, aRniSnuli monacemi<br />
ucnobia avtoparkis 43.3%-is SemTxvevaSi,<br />
xolo danarCen avtomanqanaTa<br />
33.6% benzinis Zraviani iyo,<br />
12.3% _ dizelis Zraviani, 7.4% _<br />
airze momuSave, 95 3.2% _ hibridi,<br />
xolo 0.1% _ eleqtro Zraviani.<br />
miuxedavad ekologiurad suf-<br />
Ta avtotransportis waxalisebis<br />
politikisa, gasaTvaliswinebelia,<br />
rom saqarTvelos mTavrobis 2014<br />
wlis 6 Tebervlis #121 dadgenilebiT<br />
damtkicebuli „saxelmwifo<br />
avtoparkis gadanawilebis,<br />
klasifikaciisa da samsaxurebrivi<br />
avtomanqanis Sesyidvis wesis” Sesabamisad,<br />
aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebis<br />
dawesebulebebs ar eZlevaT<br />
SesaZlebloba, Seisyidon hibriduli<br />
an/da eleqtroZraviani avtomobilebi.<br />
amdenad, miTiTebuli<br />
wesi, masSi atmosferuli haeris<br />
dacvis kuTxiT saxelmwifos pozitiuri<br />
valdebulebebis integrirebis<br />
mizniT, ganaxlebas saWiroebs.<br />
dRes bevrs xmauroben imis Sesaxeb,<br />
rom 2019 wlis pirveli ianvridan<br />
periodul teqnikur inspeqtirebas<br />
daeqvemdebara saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriaze dadgenili wesiT<br />
registrirebuli yvela kategoriis<br />
avtosatransporto saSualeba.<br />
gagrZeleba 28-e gv.<br />
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27-e gverdidan 148 (gamoSvebis welia 2008, muSaobs<br />
dizelis sawvavze); „manis” markis<br />
miuxedavad amisa, 2020 wlis pirvel<br />
ianvramde ar aris savaldeb-<br />
wels _ 40 avtobusi, 2017 wels _<br />
143 (maTi gamoSvebis wlebia 2016<br />
ulo, srulad daeqvemdebaros Semowmebas<br />
satransporto saSualeb-<br />
airis sawvavze); „mersedes-0345-is”<br />
103 avtobusi, muSaobs bunebrivi<br />
ebis moZraobis usafrTxoebis ZiriTadi<br />
elementebis teqnikuri mdglia<br />
1997. 2018 wlis 15 aprilidan<br />
markis 5 erTeuli (gamoSvebis weomareobis<br />
mimarT dadgenili yvela<br />
moTxovna, maT Soris, moTxov-<br />
dizelis sawvavze).<br />
ar aris eqspluataciaSi, muSaobda<br />
na, romlis mixedviTac, dauSvebelia<br />
gaJonva namwvi airebis gamonab-<br />
kompaniam” 2018 wlis 5 ivliss<br />
Sps „Tbilisis satransporto<br />
olqvis sistemis elementebis dazianebuli<br />
an SeerTebis adgilebidan, dizelis sawvavze momuSave evro 6-<br />
eleqtronuli tenderi gamoacxada<br />
xolo katalizuri konvertorebiT is standartis avtobusebze (romlis<br />
gamonabolqvi airi Zalian mwi-<br />
aRWurvil satransporto saSualebebze<br />
dauSvebelia namwvi airebis ria). aRniSnuli tenderi 2018 wlis<br />
atmosferoSi gamoyofa katalizu-<br />
16 ivliss dasrulda, xolo 3 agv-<br />
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eloSi saavtomobilo benzinis<br />
calkeuli ekologiuri maxasiaTeblebi<br />
(tyviis, benzolis, aromatuli<br />
naxSirwylebisa da gogirdis<br />
Semcveloba) 2017 wlis pirveli<br />
ianvridan Seesabameba evropul normebs,<br />
Tumca erovnul doneze ar<br />
aris gawerili yvela is ekologiuri<br />
maxasiaTebeli, romelsac benzini<br />
unda akmayofilebdes, raTa<br />
evrokavSiris standartiT bazarze<br />
daiSvebodes. qveyanaSi gansakuTrebiT<br />
problemur sakiTxad rCeba dizelis<br />
sawvavis xarisxi da mis mimarT<br />
arsebuli moTxovnebi. am TvalsazrisiT,<br />
Semadgenlobis sxva normebTan<br />
erTad, mniSvnelovan gamowvevad<br />
rCeba dizelis sawvavSi<br />
dadgenil normebs. kerZod, gogirdis<br />
Semcveloba dizelis sawvavSi<br />
meryeobda 308-372 mg/kg fargleb-<br />
Si. es ukve sawamlavia!<br />
magaliTisTvis moviyvanT, rom<br />
germaniis uzenaesi administraciuli<br />
sasamarTlos 2018 wlis 27<br />
Tebervlis gadawyvetilebas, romlis<br />
Sesabamisadac, Stutgardsa da<br />
diuseldorfs SesaZlebloba miecaT,<br />
aekrZalaT moZvelebuli da<br />
metad damabinZurebeli dizelis<br />
Zraviani manqanebi qalaqis gansaz-<br />
Rvrul zonebSi, sadac atmosferuli<br />
haeri gansakuTrebiT dabinZurebulia<br />
azotis dioqsidiT. sasamarTlos<br />
motivaciis samarTlebrivi<br />
safuZveli, garda erovnuli<br />
romelic uzrunvelyofs, maT Soris,<br />
haeris damtverianebiT mimdebare<br />
garemos, quCebisa da sazogadoebrivi<br />
sivrceebis dabinZurebis<br />
Tavidan acilebas.<br />
saqarTveloSi teritoriis gamwvaneba<br />
Sesabamisi municipalitetis<br />
eqskluziuri uflebamosilebis<br />
sferos ganekuTvneba, Tumca,<br />
dReis mdgomareobiT, gamwvanebul<br />
sivrceebze moqalaqeTa saTanado<br />
wvdomis uzrunvelsayofad qveyanaSi<br />
nabijebi gadadgmuli ar aris.<br />
magaliTad, TbilisSi erT sul<br />
mosaxleze gamwvanebis maCvenebeli<br />
dRemde ar gansazRvrula. quTais-<br />
Si aRniSnuli maCvenebeli daaxloebiT<br />
8 m2 -s Seadgens, Tumca Se-<br />
dabinZurebuli<br />
qalaqi<br />
skandaluri<br />
faqtebi,<br />
statistikuri<br />
monacemebi,<br />
gamoTxovili<br />
angariSebi da<br />
meriis tyuilebi<br />
ri konvertorebis gverdis avliT.<br />
calke Temaa avtobusebis sakiTxi.<br />
atmosferuli haeris dacvis<br />
kuTxiT gansakuTrebiT problemuri<br />
iyo wlebis ganmavlobaSi dedaqalaqSi<br />
arsebuli municipaluri<br />
transportis mdgomareoba. saxelmwifo<br />
auditis samsaxuris 2018<br />
wlis 31 ianvris efeqtianobis auditis<br />
angariSis Sesabamisad, 2017<br />
wels TbilisSi arsebuli, periodul<br />
teqnikur inspeqtirebas daqvemdebarebuli<br />
673 avtobusidan 106<br />
456 maTganma (68%) inspeqtireba ver<br />
gaiara. pirveladi inspeqtirebis<br />
Sedegad xarveziani aRmoCnda SedarebiT<br />
axali, lurji MAN-is, 143<br />
avtobusidan 4 erTeuli. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom msgavsi avtobusebis<br />
eqspluatacia saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dauSvebelia, mgzavrTa<br />
gadaadgilebis Seferxebis Tavidan<br />
acilebis mizniT, satransporto<br />
kompania mainc uSvebda xazze gaumarTav<br />
satransporto saSualebebs,<br />
rac kanonis darRvevaa. ase rom,<br />
Tbilisis satransporto kompaniidan<br />
miRebuli uaxlesi informaciis<br />
Sesabamisad, mocemuli etapisTvis,<br />
yoveldRiurad xazze samuSaod<br />
gadis 552 avtobusi. zogadad,<br />
2016 wlidan dRemde Tbilisis<br />
satransporto kompaniis balansze<br />
iricxeba 817 avtobusi, aqedan<br />
_ „bogdan A092"-is markis 521 (maTi<br />
gamoSvebis wlebi: 2005 wels _ 87<br />
avtobusi, 2006 wels _ 57 avtobusi,<br />
2007 wels _ 364 avtobusi da<br />
2008 wels _ 13 avtobusi, 14 avtobusi<br />
eqvemdebareba Camoweras, yvela<br />
maTgani muSaobs dizelis sawvavze);<br />
„bogdan A1445"-is markis _<br />
istos tenderSi monawile kompania<br />
Sps „Tegeta Traq end basTan” gaformda<br />
xelSekruleba, romelmac<br />
unda uzrunvelyos germanul kompania<br />
Man Truck and Bus AG-is mier<br />
poloneTSi damzadebuli zemoaRniSnuli<br />
standartis 90 avtobusis<br />
mowodeba etapobrivad, xelSekrulebis<br />
gaformebis TariRidan<br />
araugvianes 9 Tvis vadaSi. Tumca<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom miuxedavad<br />
msgavsi avtobusebis teqnikuri gamarTulobisa,<br />
rasac ganapirobebs<br />
transportis maxasiaTeblebis<br />
Sesabamisoba evrokavSiris standartebTan,<br />
mainc arsebobs maTi<br />
mxridan haeris dabinZurebis safrTxe,<br />
ramdenadac saqarTveloSi<br />
uSualod dizelis sawvavis xarisxis<br />
mimarT arsebuli moTxovnebi<br />
sakmaod dabalia da Sesabamisi<br />
direqtiviT dadgenil moTxovnebs<br />
ar Seesabameba.<br />
rac Seexeba arsebul mikroavtobusebs,<br />
akreditaciis centridan<br />
miRebuli informaciis Tanaxmad,<br />
2017 wlis 4 aprilidan 6 oqtombris<br />
CaTvliT, perioduli teqnikuri<br />
inspeqtirebisTvis gamocxadda<br />
1255 mikroavtobusi, romelTagan<br />
gzisTvis uvargisi aRmoCnda<br />
68 erTeuli. Tumca, mikroavtobusebis<br />
mflobeli kompaniebis ganmartebiT,<br />
yvela msgavs avtosatransporto<br />
saSualebas, 2016 wlidan<br />
2018 wlis 10 oqtombris CaTvliT,<br />
gavlili aqvs savaldebulo teqnikuri<br />
inspeqtireba saqarTvelos<br />
kanonmdeblobiT dadgenili wesiT.<br />
axla, gadavideT sawvavis xarisxze!<br />
rogorc gvicxadeben, saqarTv-<br />
gogirdis Semcvelobis zRvruli<br />
mniSvneloba, rac arsebiTad Seusabamoa<br />
evrostandartTan. kerZod,<br />
saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobis Sesabamisad,<br />
2017 wlis pirveli ianvridan<br />
dizelSi gogirdis Semcvelobis<br />
zRvrul mniSvnelobad<br />
dadginda ara umetes 100 mg/kg-sa,<br />
2019 wlis pirveli ianvridan ki<br />
aRniSnuli maCvenebeli 50 mg/kg-s<br />
gautolda. maSin, rodesac evrokavSiris<br />
standartis Sesabamisad,<br />
dizelis sawvavSi gogirdis Semcvelobis<br />
zRvruli mniSvnelobaa<br />
10 mk/kg. amaze Cveni mTavroba acxadebs,<br />
rom dizelis sawvavSi gogirdis<br />
Semcveloba saqarTveloSi<br />
evrokavSiris standarts 2020 wlis<br />
pirveli ianvridan daakmayofilebs.<br />
arada, Tbilisis meriis cnobiT,<br />
dReis mdgomareobiT, municipalitets<br />
emsaxureba oTxi kerZo<br />
kompania 2000 mikroavtobusiT,<br />
romelic gamoSvebulia 2011-2012<br />
wlebSi. yvela maTgani dizelis<br />
sawvavs moixmars.<br />
aqve davZenT, rom samjer (2017<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi) saqarTveloSi<br />
gamovlinda iseTi saavtomobilo<br />
dizelis sawvavis miwodeba, romlis<br />
xarisxic ver akmayofilebda<br />
kanonmdeblobisa, iyo „atmosferuli<br />
haeris xarisxisa da evropaSi<br />
ufro sufTa haeris Sesaxeb”. gansakuTrebiT<br />
efeqtian RonisZiebad<br />
miiCnia sasamarTlom dizelis<br />
sawvavze momuSave manqanebis akrZalva,<br />
ramdenadac isini did rols<br />
TamaSoben azotis dioqsidis (NO2)<br />
zRvruli mniSvnelobis gadaWarbebis<br />
TvalsazrisiT. azotis dioqsidis<br />
maRali koncentraciis Semcirebis<br />
mizniT, 2018 wlis 31 maiss, dizelis<br />
Zraviani manqanebis gadaadgileba<br />
aikrZala qalaq hamburgis<br />
gansazRvrul teritoriaze, xolo<br />
oqtomberSi amgvari akrZalvis<br />
daweseba sasamarTlo gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sesabamisad, germaniis dedaqalaqs<br />
daekisra.<br />
swored aRniSnuli reformebi<br />
unda gatardes saqarTveloSic!<br />
haeris dabinZurebis erT-erT<br />
mniSvnelovan wyaros warmoadgens<br />
aseve samSeneblo saqmianoba. yvelaze<br />
farTod gavrcelebuli me-<br />
Todi samSeneblo mtvris gafrqvevis<br />
kontrolisTvis aris morwyva.<br />
saqarTveloSi samSeneblo sferos<br />
momwesrigebeli kanonmdebloba samSeneblo<br />
moedanze iseTi RonisZiebebis<br />
ganxorcielebas moiTxovs,<br />
`samjer (2017 wlis ganmavlobaSi) saqarTveloSi<br />
gamovlinda iseTi saavtomobilo dizelis<br />
sawvavis miwodeba, romlis xarisxic ver<br />
akmayofilebda dadgenil normebs. kerZod,<br />
gogirdis Semcveloba dizelis sawvavSi<br />
meryeobda 308-372 mg/kg farglebSi. es ukve<br />
sawamlavia!~<br />
sabamisi standartis ararsebobis<br />
gamo zusti monacemebi xelmisawvdomi<br />
ar aris. baTumsa da rusTav-<br />
Si mwvane safarsa da mosaxleobas<br />
Soris Tanafardoba warmoadgens<br />
erT sul mosaxleze, Sesabamisad, 5-<br />
6 m2-sa da 5.4 m2-s. Tumca, municipalitetebSi<br />
ar aris damtkicebuli<br />
koeficientis maCveneblis Sefasebis<br />
standarti.<br />
saqarTveloSi soflis meurneoba,<br />
romelsac mdidari tradiciebi<br />
aqvs, bolo periodSi haeris dabinZurebis<br />
erT-erT wyarod iqca.<br />
winaswari monacemebiT, 2017 wels<br />
qveyanaSi soflis meurneobis<br />
produqciis gamoSvebam 3.9 mlrd.<br />
lari Seadgina, xolo soflis meurneobis<br />
produqciis gadamuSavebis<br />
Sedegad, 5.2 mlrd. laris Rirebulebis<br />
agrosasursaTo produqcia<br />
Seiqmna. amave periodSi, soflis<br />
meurneobis wili mTlian Sida<br />
produqtSi 8.2% iyo. marTalia,<br />
bolo aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
dargis ganviTarebis tempi sagr-<br />
Znoblad CamorCeba ekonomikis sxva<br />
seqtorebis ganviTarebis tempebs,<br />
Tumca igi kvlav mniSvnelovan gamowvevad<br />
rCeba qveyanaSi atmosferuli<br />
haeris xarisxis gaumjobesebis<br />
TvalsazrisiT.<br />
atmosferuli haeris dabinZurebas<br />
iwvevs sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
saqmianobis iseTi mimarTulebebi,<br />
rogorebicaa: nakelis marTva (Segroveba,<br />
gadamuSaveba, Senaxva da<br />
gamoyeneba), cxoveluri nakeliT<br />
miwis ganayofiereba, araorganuli<br />
azotis sasuqis gamoyeneba, sasoflo-sameurneo<br />
narCenebis wva da<br />
sxv.<br />
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nacrisferi epidemia<br />
mravalindikatoruli klast-<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
eruli kvleva saqarTveloSi Caa-<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
tara statistikis erovnulma sam-<br />
saxurma gaeros bavSvTa fondisa<br />
da daavadebaTa kontrolisa da sazogadoebrivi janmrTelo-<br />
bis erovnuli centris teqnikuri da finansuri mxardaWeriT.<br />
kvlevis mxardaWeras aseve uzrunvelyofdnen SvedeTis saer-<br />
TaSoriso ganviTarebis TanamSromlobis saagento (SIDA),<br />
amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis saerTaSoriso ganviTarebis<br />
saagento (USAID), safrangeTis ganviTarebis saagento (AFD),<br />
Sveicariis ganviTarebis TanamSromlobis saagento (SDC),<br />
gaeros mosaxleobis fondi (UNFPA), gaeros ganviTarebis pro-<br />
grama (UNDP), msoflio jandacvis organizacia (WHO), msof-<br />
lio banki da italiis erovnuli jandacvis instituti.<br />
saqarTveloSi bavSvebis 41%-<br />
is sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />
tolia an aRemateba 5 mkg/dl-s,<br />
maT Soris, bavSvebis 16%-is sisxlSi<br />
tyviis Semcveloba tolia an<br />
aRemateba 10 mkg/dl-s. bavSvebis<br />
25%-is sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />
aris 5-dan 10 mkg/dl-mde. ase-<br />
Tia Sedegebi qveynis masStabiT<br />
warmomadgenlobiTi kvlevisa,<br />
romelic dRes gamoqveynda.<br />
kvleva 2018 wlis seqtembridan<br />
dekembramde periodSi Catarda<br />
mravalindikatoruli klasteruli<br />
kvlevis farglebSi,<br />
romelic Sinameurneobebis yvelaze<br />
didi kvlevaa msoflioSi.<br />
tyviis donis gansasazRvrad venuri<br />
sisxlis sinjebi Segrovda 2-<br />
7 wlis 1578 bavSvisgan saqarTvelos<br />
masStabiT. bavSvebi kvleva-<br />
Si SemTxveviTi SerCevis principiT<br />
CarTes da sinjebi gaigzavna<br />
italiis janmrTelobis erovnul<br />
institutSi, romelic warmoadgens<br />
evropis wamyvan sazogadoebrivi<br />
janmrTelobis instituts.<br />
tyviis Semcvelobaze sisxlis nimuSis<br />
kvlevisas gamoyenebuli<br />
iyo induqciurad Sewyvilebuli<br />
plazmis mas-speqtrometri (ICP<br />
MS), rac warmoadgens tyviis kvlevis<br />
oqros standarts.<br />
saqarTveloSi gaeros bavSvTa<br />
fondis warmomadgenlis moadgile<br />
gotfrid hanes oficialuri<br />
gancxadebidan irkveva, rom gaeros<br />
bavSvTa fondi, cxra donor<br />
organizaciasTan erTad, daexmara<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobas, kerZod,<br />
statistikis erovnul samsaxursa<br />
da daavadebaTa kontrolisa da<br />
sazogadoebrivi janmrTelobis<br />
erovnul centrs, kvlevis CatarebaSi,<br />
romlic mizanic problemis<br />
masStabebis gansazRvra iyo.<br />
man aseve aRniSna, rom Semdegi nabiji<br />
tyviis zemoqmedebis wyaroebis<br />
kvleva unda iyos.<br />
tyviis minimaluri, janmrTelobisTvis<br />
usafrTxo koncentracia<br />
adamianis organizmSi ar<br />
aris dadgenili, Tumca msoflio<br />
jandacvis rekomendaciebis Sesabamisad,<br />
sazogadoebrivi jandacviTi<br />
RonisZiebebi unda daigegmos,<br />
rodesac venur sisxlSi tyviis<br />
Semcveloba tolia an aRemateba<br />
5 mkg/dl-s.<br />
rogorc „qronika+~-isTvis gaxda<br />
cnobili, saqarTvelos mTavroba<br />
ukve gegmavs SeimuSaos<br />
tyviis toqsikuri zemoqmedebis<br />
aRmofxvris yovlismomcveli<br />
saxelmwifo programa, romelic<br />
iTvaliswinebs tyviiT dabinZurebis<br />
wyaroebis kvlevas; aseve sabazro<br />
mimoqcevaSi tyviiT dabin-<br />
Zurebuli produqtebis moxvedris<br />
prevenciasa da sazogadoebis<br />
informirebisken mimarTul<br />
sainformacio kampaniebs.<br />
kvlevis monacemebi sakmaod<br />
sagangaSo aRmoCnda:<br />
sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />
aRemateba 5 mkg/dl-s: TbilisSi<br />
_ 30%, aWaraSi _ 85%, guriaSi _<br />
73%, imereTSi _ 61%, kaxeTSi _<br />
25%, mcxeTa-mTianeTSi _ 20%, samegrelo-zemo<br />
svaneTSi _ 71%, samcxe-javaxeTSi<br />
_ 32%, qvemo qarTlSi<br />
_ 18%, Sida qarTlSi _<br />
21%.<br />
bavSvebSi sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba<br />
aRemateba 10 mkg/dl-<br />
s: TbilisSi _ 7%, aWaraSi _ 50%,<br />
guriaSi _ 44%, imereTSi _ 23%,<br />
kaxeTSi _ 4%, mcxeTa-mTianeTSi<br />
_ 6%, samegrelo-zemo svaneTSi<br />
_ 29%, samcxe-javaxeTSi _ 12%,<br />
qvemo qarTlSi _ 6%, Sida<br />
qarTlSi _ 4%.<br />
rac Seexeba garemos dacvis<br />
erovnuli saagentos monacemebiT<br />
dasavleT saqarTvelos didi<br />
qalaqebis niadagebSi tyviis Semcvelobas,<br />
Semdegi gamovlinda:<br />
1. qalaqi abaSa, sadac aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda<br />
1 SemTxvevaSi sadguris mimdebare<br />
teritoriaze;<br />
2. qalaqi baTumi, aRebulia 5<br />
nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />
SemTxvevaSi skola liceumTan,<br />
bagrationis q. #117-Si;<br />
3. qalaqi zestafoni, aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />
SemTxvevaSi, abesaZis quCis mimdebare<br />
teritoriaze, Tumca 2 SemTxvevaSi<br />
tyviis Semcveloba Zalze<br />
axlosaa zRvrul dasaSveb<br />
koncentraciasTan, kerZod. sviris<br />
gadasasvlelTan da feroSenadnobTa<br />
qarxnidan CrdiloeTiT<br />
600 m.-Si;<br />
4. qalaqi zugdidi, aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1 SemTxvevaSi,<br />
aRmaSeneblis quCa<br />
#145-Si, Tumca 2 SemTxvevaSi<br />
tyviis Semcveloba Zalze axlosaa<br />
zRvrul dasaSveb koncentraciasTan,<br />
kerZod rusTavelis<br />
q. #403-Si da gamsaxurdias q.<br />
#28-Si;<br />
konkretuli monacemebi<br />
qarTveli bavSvebis sisxlSi<br />
tyviis Semcvelobis Sesaxeb<br />
regionebis mixedviT<br />
`kvlevis monacemebi sakmaod sagangaSo<br />
aRmoCnda: sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba aRemateba<br />
5 mkg/dl-s: TbilisSi - 30%, aWaraSi - 85%,<br />
guriaSi - 73%, imereTSi - 61%, kaxeTSi - 25%,<br />
mcxeTa-mTianeTSi - 20%, samegrelo-zemo<br />
svaneTSi - 71%, samcxe-javaxeTSi - 32%, qvemo<br />
qarTlSi - 18%, Sida qarTlSi - 21%. bavSvebSi<br />
sisxlSi tyviis Semcveloba aRemateba 10 mkg/<br />
dl-s: TbilisSi - 7%, aWaraSi - 50%, guriaSi -<br />
44%, imereTSi - 23%, kaxeTSi _ 4%, mcxeTa-<br />
mTianeTSi - 6%, samegrelo-zemo svaneTSi - 29%,<br />
samcxe-javaxeTSi - 12%, qvemo qarTlSi - 6%,<br />
Sida qarTlSi - 4%~<br />
5. qalaqi ozurgeTi, aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />
SemTxvevaSi, kerZod. kvleviT institutTan;<br />
6. qalaqi senaki, aRebulia 5<br />
nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda yvela<br />
SemTxvevaSi, kerZod qalaqis<br />
xidTan, rusTavelis q. #113-Si;<br />
kostavas q. #39-Si pirvel skolasTan;<br />
parkis mimdebare teritoria;<br />
sadguris mimdebare teritoria<br />
mSvidobis q, #196-Si;<br />
7. qalaqi foTi, aRebulia 5<br />
nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba ar dafiqsirebula,<br />
Tumca qalaqis centralur<br />
moedanze eklesiasTan aRebul<br />
sinjSi tyviis Semcveloba TiTqmis<br />
utoldeba zRvrul dasaSveb<br />
koncentracias;<br />
8. qalaqi qobuleTi, aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba dafiqsirda 1<br />
SemTxvevaSi, qalaqis Sesasvlel-<br />
Tan;<br />
9. qalaqi wyaltubo, aRebulia<br />
5 nimuSi, aqedan tyviis Semcvelobis<br />
gadaWarbeba arc erT SemTxvevaSi<br />
ar dafiqsirebula;<br />
10. qalaqi bolnisi, sinjebi<br />
aRebulia sami wertilidan, aqedan<br />
orSi dafiqsirda tyviis gada-<br />
Warbeba. amave wlis kvlevis monacemebis<br />
mixedviT, bolnisis raionSi<br />
tyvia gvxvdeba zRvrul dasaSveb<br />
koncentraciaze maRali.<br />
samTomompovebeli kompania<br />
RMG-is mimdebare soflebSi (0-<br />
10 km radiusSi aris dacilebuli),<br />
qvemoT moyvanil diagrameb-<br />
Si kargad Cans niadagebSi tyviis<br />
Semcveloba bolnisisa da dmanisis<br />
raionebis 21 sofelSi. aq na-<br />
Tlad Cans tyviis koncentraciis<br />
mkveTri mateba am soflebis<br />
niadagebSi.<br />
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„Sen Semoqmeds radgan qalad<br />
daubarebixar, Seni wesi es unda<br />
iyos: xmagakmendili Cumad iyo,<br />
aravis Sexedo, arsad waxvide, yurebi<br />
daixSe da Tvalebi daxuWe da<br />
ijeq, swavla ra Seni saqmeao...” _ ase<br />
aRwers barbare erisTavi-jorjaZe<br />
im periods, roca qalis uflebebi<br />
SezRuduli iyo da igi TiTqmis ar<br />
arsebobda. es iyo 1845 weli da<br />
maSin gavrcelebuli da miRebulic<br />
ki iyo adreuli asakSi qorwineba.<br />
axla 2019 welia. mas Semdeg 174<br />
weli gavida, Tumca arasrulwlovan<br />
asakSi Seqmnili ojaxi arc ise<br />
ucxoa CvenTvis.<br />
arasrulwlovanTa qorwineba<br />
problemaa, romelic saqarTvelosa<br />
da samxreT kavkasiis regionSi<br />
kvlav udides gamowvevad rCeba.<br />
saqarTvelos saxalxo damcvelis,<br />
qveyanaSi adamianis uflebaTa<br />
mdgomareobis Sesaxeb yovelwliuri<br />
moxsenebis Tanaxmad, 2017 wlis<br />
monacemTan SedarebiT (835 arasrulwlovani<br />
mSobeli) adreuli<br />
qorwineba Semcirebulia, Tumca<br />
kvlav maRalia bavSvis dabadebisas<br />
18 wlamde miuRwevel mSobelTa<br />
raodenoba. angariSis mixedviT,<br />
2018 wels saqarTveloSi mSoblad<br />
715 arasrulwlovani deda da 23<br />
arasrulwlovani mama daregistrirda.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom kanonis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT 18 wlamde<br />
pirTa qorwinebis registracia sisxlis<br />
samarTlebriv aqtad miiCneva<br />
da oficialurad ar xorcieldeba,<br />
problemas warmoadgens faqtobrivi<br />
Tanacxovrebisa da araoficialuri<br />
qorwinebebis SemTxvevebi.<br />
angariSis mixedviT, adreuli<br />
qorwinebis gamo, saSualod, 300<br />
bavSvi weliwadSi skolas ver am-<br />
Tavrebs. 2017-2018 wlebSi 564 aTasi<br />
moswavlidan 381-ma gogonam da<br />
40-ma biWma ver miiRo sruli saSualo<br />
ganaTleba.<br />
arsebuli monacemebiT, 20-24<br />
wlis asakis qalTa 14% aRniSnavs,<br />
rom ojaxi 18 wlis asakamde Seqmna.<br />
vaJebSi xuTjer ufro naklebia<br />
adreuli qorwinebis SemTxvevebi.<br />
2017-2018 wlis adreuli qorwinebis<br />
saqarTvelos maCvenebeli (20%)<br />
evropaSi yvelaze maRalia da gasuli<br />
wlebis liderebs, moldovasa<br />
(18%) da TurqeTs (14%), uswrebs.<br />
unda aRiniSnos, rom ar arsebobs<br />
zusti monacemebi adreuli qorwinebis<br />
Sesaxeb, radgan qorwineba-<br />
Ta umravlesoba ar aris registrirebuli.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, Tuki<br />
gaviTvaliswinebT araregistrirebuli<br />
qorwinebebis raodenobasac,<br />
unda vivaraudoT, rom es ricxvi<br />
araTu Semcirda, aramed gacilebiT<br />
maRalia.<br />
Tanamedrove adamiani Tavisufali<br />
da damoukidebelia, Sesabamisad,<br />
rodesac is iseT mniSvnelovan<br />
gadawyvetilebas iRebs, rogoric<br />
daqorwinebaa, umTavresad, sakuTar<br />
azrsa da grZnobebs eyrdnoba.<br />
siyvaruliT qorwineba warsulSi<br />
erTgvari fufuneba iyo, magram<br />
dRes arasrulwlovnebSi _ ojaxis<br />
Seqmnis upirvelesi da zogjer er-<br />
adreuli qorwinebis<br />
kavkasia istoriulad cnobilia<br />
alvina aleqsaniani<br />
adreuli qorwinebis, qalis gata-<br />
cebisa da garigebiT qorwinebis<br />
tradiciebiT. pirveli qarTveli feministi qalis, poet<br />
rafiel erisTavis dis, barbare erisTavi-jorjaZis biogra-<br />
fiaSi vkiTxulobT, rom is 12 wlis asakSi gaaTxoves, maSin,<br />
rodesac jer kidev bavSvi iyo. is Tavis qorwils ixsenebda,<br />
rogorc raRac TamaSs.<br />
30<br />
TaderTi mizezia. Zalze xSirad<br />
mozardebi am nabijs Tavisuflebis<br />
mopovebis mizniT dgamen, maT<br />
erTi suli aqvT, rodis gaxdebian<br />
didebi. maT surT daamtkicon, rom<br />
SeuZliaT gadawyvetilebis damoukideblad<br />
miReba. zogjer ki,<br />
mravali mizezis gamo, mSobliuri<br />
saxlidan Tavis daRwevis mizniT,<br />
axalgazrdebi, samwuxarod, sxva<br />
alternativas ver xedaven. ra Tqma<br />
unda, arian Zlieri pirovnebebi,<br />
romlebic sirTuleebs laxaven da<br />
adreuli qorwineba maTTvis garkveuli<br />
gamocdilebaa, magram, Ziri-<br />
Tadad, es fsiqologiur travmas<br />
ayenebs, mas Tan axlavs ganaTlebis<br />
miRebis problema, gogonebSi janmrTelobis<br />
gauareseba. am adamianebis<br />
didi nawili momavalSi realizebas<br />
ver axerxebs.<br />
likas naRvliani istoria<br />
lika 16 wlis iyo, roca momavali<br />
qmari gaicno da masTan erTad<br />
gaipara .. 17 wlis asakSi bavSvi gaaCina.<br />
Tumca axalbeda dedis cxovrebaSi<br />
yvelaze bednieri da didi<br />
xnis nanatri dRe im faqtiT iyo<br />
daCrdiluli, rom bavSvis mama mis<br />
gverdiT ar iyo, _ is naxevari weliwadia,<br />
rac cixeSi zis.<br />
„skolaSi me-10 klasSi vswavlobdi<br />
da paralelurad maRazia-<br />
Si konsultantis poziciaze vmuSaobdi,<br />
rodesac momaval meuRles<br />
Sevxvdi. is imave maRaziis dacvis<br />
TanamSromeli iyo. Cemze 11 wliT<br />
ufrosi. erTi sityviT, movewone,<br />
wyvili gavxvdiT da ramdenime Tvis<br />
Semdeg gaparva SemomTavaza. mec<br />
davTanxmdi. ver vityvi, rom bolomde<br />
gaazrebuli mqonda, ras vake-<br />
Tebdi. es im periods daemTxva, rodesac<br />
dedaCemma Tanacxovreba iseT<br />
adamianTan gadawyvita, romelsac<br />
pirveli qorwinebidan sami patara<br />
Svili hyavda. deda sul bavSvebs<br />
uvlida, CemTvis arasdros<br />
ecala, mec vexmarebodi, magram es<br />
damRleli iyo da swavlaSi xels<br />
miSlida. vfiqrobdi, gavTxovdebodi<br />
da problemebi mogvardeboda.<br />
TiTqos, Tavs vuSvele gaTxovebiT.<br />
calke, naqiravebSi gadavediT, male<br />
davorsuldi”.<br />
jer kidev bavSvi, 16 wlis lika,<br />
orsulobis meoTxe Tveze iyo,<br />
rodesac adreuli qorwinebis mZime<br />
Sedegebis winaSe aRmoCnda: meu-<br />
Rle yaCaRobis faqtze daiWires,<br />
braldebulad cnes da 8 weliwadi<br />
miusajes. is sul marto darCa,<br />
mSobliur saxlSi dabrunda, depresiaSi<br />
Cavarda. rogorc Tavad ambobs,<br />
sanam colad gayva, icoda,<br />
rom misi rCeuli nasamarTlevi da<br />
cixidan axlad gamosuli iyo, magram<br />
Seuyvarda da amas maSin mniSvneloba<br />
ar mianiWa. miuxedavad yvelafrisa,<br />
qmari dResac uyvars, Tavisufal<br />
dros cixeSi dadis da<br />
bavSvic mihyavs. Tumca Znelia im<br />
faqtis gacnobiereba da imasTan<br />
Segueba, rom bavSvi mamas, cixis<br />
kedlebs gareT, pirvelad, 8 wlis<br />
asakSi naxavs.<br />
18 wlis iyo, Svili rom gaaCina<br />
`vfiqrobdi, gaTxovebiT problemebi<br />
mogvardeboda~ _ iluziebi adreuli<br />
qorwinebis Sesaxeb<br />
da sacxovreblad bebiasTan da<br />
babuasTan gadavida. orsulobis<br />
periodSi skolaSi ar uvlia, mxolod<br />
gamocdebze midioda. ambobs,<br />
rom bavSvis gamo swavlisa da<br />
atestatis miRebis motivacia hqonda<br />
da saxlSi programul wignebs<br />
kiTxulobda, Tumca mxolod aman<br />
bevri veraferi misca. umaRlesSi<br />
ar Caubarebia, amaze arc ki ufiqria,<br />
radgan arc amis saSualeba<br />
hqonda, arc dro da arc survili.<br />
dRes 21 wlis martoxela dedaa, 4<br />
wlis araCveulebrivi vaJi hyavs da,<br />
bedis ironiiT, isev maRaziaSi<br />
muSaobs gamyidvelad.<br />
anuki _ istoria bednieri<br />
dasasrulis gareSe<br />
15 wlis asakSi Seqmna ojaxi kidev<br />
erTma respondentma, romelic<br />
dRes 22 wlisaa da ukve ganqorwinebulia,<br />
7 wlis gogonas marto<br />
zrdis. wina gmirisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
anukis sruli saSualo ganaTlebac<br />
ar miuRia. im faqtma, rom me-9<br />
klasSi Seyvarebulisgan daorsulda,<br />
didi roli iTamaSa mis Semdgom<br />
cxovrebaSi. misi qorwineba Tavidan<br />
sakmaod bednieri Canda, magram<br />
male sixaruli ubedurebam Secvala<br />
_ meuRle moZalade narkomani<br />
gamodga.<br />
„15 wlis viyavi, roca Cems yofil<br />
meuRlesTan erTad es nabiji<br />
gadavdgi. davorsuldi, amitomac<br />
colad momiyvana. iyo siyvarulic<br />
da im dros megona, rom es is<br />
grZnobaa, romelic ojaxis SeqmnisTvis<br />
sakmarisia. orsulobis periodSi<br />
skolaSi ar mivlia, me-9<br />
klasis Semdeg skola saerTodac<br />
mivatove. aRar mindoda swavlis<br />
gagrZeleba. saxlSi yofna, saojaxo<br />
saqmeebis keTeba merCivna. TiTqos<br />
bednieri viyavi, verTobodi Cems<br />
meuRlesTan erTad, erTi sityviT,<br />
did problemebs ar Sevjaxebivar.<br />
16 wlisas Svili SemeZina da aq gaCnda<br />
problemebic. me TviTonac patara<br />
viyavi da bavSvs rogor aRvzrdidi?<br />
araferi vicodi, amitom deda<br />
da mezoblad mcxovrebi qalebi<br />
mexmarebodnen. droTa ganmavloba-<br />
Si uamravi problema dagrovda.<br />
meuRle arasdros iyo Cem gverdiT,<br />
ubnis biWebTan erTad erToboda,<br />
svamda, arsad muSaobda. aRmoCnda,<br />
rom narkotikul saSualebebsac<br />
moixmarda; Semdeg fizikur da sityvier<br />
Seuracxyofas mayenebda.<br />
erT dRes, morigi konfliqtis<br />
dros, mivxvdi, rom misgan unda wavsuliyavi”.<br />
anuki ambobs, rom 4-wliani Tanacxovrebis<br />
Semdeg qmars daSorda:<br />
„zrdasrul asakSi SesaZlebelia,<br />
ori adamiani sxvadasxva azrze<br />
iyos da es ar gaxdes konfliqtis<br />
mizezi, Tineijerobisas ki<br />
rTulia. am dros ginda garToba,<br />
megobrebTan erTad didi xniT wasvla,<br />
dakargva, magram roca ojaxi<br />
gyavs, ase ver adgebi da ver waxval.<br />
ojaxi gulisxmobs imas, rom,<br />
erTdroulad, Zalebis erTnairi<br />
gadanawilebiT, unda gauZRve cxovrebas.<br />
Tu erTi mxare mainc<br />
moikoWlebs, mTeli tvirTi meoreze<br />
gadadis”.<br />
dRes mas aqvs saqme, samsaxuri,<br />
Tumca sakuTar Tavs Semdgar adamianad<br />
ar miiCnevs. ambobs, swavla<br />
rom gaegrZelebina, axla kargi samsaxuri<br />
da profesia eqneboda. misive<br />
TqmiT, adreul asakSi ojaxis<br />
Seqmna swori ar aris da gogoebma<br />
aucileblad unda miiRon ganaTleba.<br />
„ver vityvi, rom Semdgari<br />
var da profesia maqvs, romelic<br />
Zalian miyvars. ar aris ase. maqvs<br />
Cemi saqme, Tumca SeiZleboda, amaze<br />
ukeTesi yofiliyo”. miuxedavad<br />
amisa, anuki ambobs, rom misi<br />
Svili amis kompensirebas axdens.<br />
naTia _ istoria bednieri<br />
dasasruliT<br />
tradiciul qarTul sazogadoebaSi<br />
mniSvnelovania, rom gogos<br />
pirveli intimuri gamocdileba<br />
dakanonebuli iyos. es adreuli<br />
qorwinebis kidev erTi faqtoria.<br />
axalgazrda wyvilebs, ubralod,<br />
ar gaaCniaT intimuri urTierTobebis<br />
legalizaciis sxva saSualeba.<br />
ase moxda naTias SemTxvevaSi,<br />
mas axlo urTierToba surda Tavis<br />
pirvel SeyvarebulTan, amitomac<br />
16 wlis asakSi daqorwinda.<br />
„me-9 klasSi vswavlobdi, rodesac<br />
Cemi momavali qmari gavicani.<br />
me TbilisSi vcxovrobdi, is ki<br />
zugdididan iyo. es CvenTvis xelis<br />
SemSleli ar yofila, urTierToba<br />
daviwyeT, erTmaneTi Segviyvarda.<br />
mis gareSe cxovreba ar SemeZlo,<br />
amitomac gadavwyviteT gaparva<br />
da Cveni urTierTobis dakanoneba.<br />
vicodi, rom Cemi mSoblebi wianaaRmdegebi<br />
iqnebodnen. erTxel<br />
skolaSi gakveTilebi gagvicda da<br />
im dRes spontanurad gadavwyvite,<br />
am nabijze wavsuliyavi. Cems or axlobel<br />
megobars yvelaferi avuxseni<br />
da mSoblebisTvis werilis gadacema<br />
vTxove. dResdReobiT vxvdebi,<br />
rom mSoblebTan ase ar unda<br />
movqceuliyavi, magram maSin patara<br />
viyavi da Sedegebze ar vfiqrobdi”.<br />
orsulobis periodSi naTia<br />
qmarTan da dedamTilTan erTad<br />
cxovrobda. skolaSi ar uvlia,<br />
radgan Zneli iyo balansis dacva<br />
ganaTlebasa da orsulobas Soris.<br />
ase gagrZelda, daaxloebiT, erTi<br />
weli. rodesac skolaSi dabruneba<br />
da swavlis gagrZeleba gadawyvita,<br />
naTias dedamTili winaaRmdegi iyo.<br />
misi azriT, gaTxovil gogos swavla<br />
qorwinebis Semdeg dakisrebuli<br />
valdebulebebis Sesrulebasa<br />
da bavSvis movlaSi xels uSlis. sabednierod,<br />
naTia ar daTanxmda<br />
aseT Zvelmodur midgomas, mSoblebTan<br />
dabrunda da swavla gaagr-<br />
Zela. skolis damTavreba da umaRles<br />
saswavlebelSi Cabareba gauWirda,<br />
magram mzrunveli mSoblebis<br />
ZalisxmeviT dRes naTia saqarTvelos<br />
erT-erT wamyvan bankSi muSaobs<br />
da warmatebuli, saintereso<br />
axalgazrda qalia. igi TbilisSi<br />
qmarTan erTad cxovrobs da rva<br />
wlis vaJs zrdis.<br />
am axalgazrda qalis istoria<br />
adreul asakSi qorwinebis Semdeg<br />
kargad Camoyalibebuli cxovrebis<br />
iSviaTi magaliTia. bednieri dasasruli,<br />
romelic ar moxdeboda, rom<br />
ara Cveni respondentis mier sworad<br />
gadadgmuli nabijebi, ganaTlebis<br />
aucileblobis gaazreba<br />
da axlos mdgomi mzrunveli mSoblebi.<br />
magram bevri gogona, romelmac,<br />
naTias msgavsad, mSobliuri<br />
saxli adre datova da daqorwinda,<br />
dRes arc ise bednieria. zogs<br />
ukve ramdenime bavSvi hyavs, maT<br />
skola ar daumTavrebiaT, ar miu-<br />
RiaT profesiuli ganaTleba; sxvebi<br />
yoveldRiurad ganicdian ojaxur<br />
Zaladobas; zogierTi didi<br />
xania, dabrunda mSoblebTan da bavSvebs<br />
marto zrdis, radgan qmrebTan<br />
araferi gamouvidaT. arasrulwlovan<br />
asakSi daqorwinebuli<br />
bednieri qalebis raodenoba saqarTveloSi<br />
Zalian cotaa.<br />
saqarTveloSi adreuli qorwinebis<br />
praqtika ukve wlebia, rac arsebobs,<br />
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mosazreba, rom es problema<br />
warsulSi darCa da Tu axlacaa<br />
SemorCenili, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
regionebSi, sadac progresis sina-<br />
Tles jer ar CauRwevia.<br />
gaeros kvleva, sxva kvlevebT-<br />
an erTad, gansxvavebul suraTs<br />
gviCvenebs: adreuli qorwinebis<br />
sakiTxi dResac aqtualuria soflebsa<br />
da qalaqebSi, xolo misi<br />
mizezebi ara maincdamainc eTnoreligiur,<br />
aramed genderul da tradiciul<br />
warmodgenebs emyareba.<br />
gaeros mosaxleobis fondis<br />
(UNFPA) ) saqarTvelos ofisis xe-<br />
lmZRvanelis, lela baqraZis<br />
TqmiT: „adreuli qorwineba gogonebisTvis<br />
mZime Sedegebis momtania,<br />
xSir SemTxvevaSi, maT socialur da<br />
uflebriv gariyvas iwvevs, xels<br />
uSlis gogonebs ganaTlebis dasrulebaSi<br />
da maTi potencialis<br />
srul gamovlenaSi. mozardobis<br />
asakSi orsuloba da mSobiaroba ki<br />
dedisa da nayofis janmrTelobas<br />
riskis qveS ayenebs. adreuli qorwinebis<br />
gamomwvevi mizezebi kompleqsuria<br />
da, Sesabamisad, viTarebis<br />
gasaumjobeseblad mravalmxrivi<br />
muSaobaa saWiro, rogorc<br />
politikisa da kanonmdeblobis<br />
doneze, aseve TemebTan da TviTon<br />
mozardebTan maTi damokidebulebis<br />
Sesacvlelad”.<br />
bavSvobis asakSi qorwinebis sakiTxma<br />
xelisuflebis yuradRebis<br />
miqceva mxolod bolo ramdenime<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi, saxalxo damcvelis,<br />
gaeros saagentoebisa da samoqalaqo<br />
sazogadoebis organizaciebis<br />
mier ganxorcielebul mtkicebulebebze<br />
dafuZnebuli advokatirebis<br />
Sedegad SeZlo. genderuli<br />
Tanasworobis, qalTa mimarT<br />
Zaladobisa da ojaxSi Zaladobis<br />
sakiTxebze momuSave uwyebaTaSorisi<br />
komisiisa da gaeros mosaxleobis<br />
fondis (UNFPA) saqarTvelos<br />
ofisis TaosnobiT, bolo 3 welia<br />
moRvaweobs adreuli/bavSvobis<br />
asakSi qorwinebis sakiTxze momu-<br />
Save specialuri jgufi, romlis<br />
misiaa qveyanaSi arsebuli saziano<br />
praqtikebis Tavidan acilebisa da<br />
aRmofxvris mizniT RonisZiebebis<br />
strategiuli dagegmva da sxvadasxva<br />
dainteresebuli mxaris koordinebuli<br />
muSaobis xelSewyoba.<br />
jgufis SemadgenlobaSi Sedian Sesabamisi<br />
samTavrobo struqturebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi, gaeros genderis<br />
Tematuri jgufis wevrebi<br />
(saerTaSoriso da donori organizaciebi),<br />
saxalxo damcvelis aparatisa<br />
da adreul/bavSvobis asak-<br />
Si qorwinebis Temaze momuSave arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
uaxloesi wlebis manZilze genderuli<br />
Tanasworobis kuTxiT<br />
gadadgmuli pozitiuri nabijebis<br />
miuxedavad, dRes mTeli qveynis<br />
masStabiT kvlav xSiria naadrevi<br />
qorwinebis SemTxvevebi. misi damkvidrebisa<br />
da gavrcelebis umTavresi<br />
faqtoria codna-ganaTlebis<br />
aucileblobisa da gogonebis<br />
momavali socialuri rolis mniSvnelobis<br />
gaazrebis nakleboba, romelic<br />
ar unda Semoifarglebodes<br />
diasaxlisobiT da bavSvis aRzrdiT.<br />
qorwinebis periodSi gogonebi<br />
genderuli Zaladobisa da diskriminaciis<br />
sxvadasxva formas ganicdian.<br />
garda amisa, isini xSirad<br />
ver umklavdebian siZneleebs orsulobisa<br />
da mSobiarobis dros.<br />
koSmari gogonebSi<br />
socialuri izolacia, tradiciebi,<br />
siRaribe da sxva faqtorebi xels<br />
uwyobs genderuli diskriminaciisa<br />
da qalebis marginalizaciis<br />
mankieri wris damkvidrebas.<br />
gogonebis adreuli qorwinebisgan<br />
dacvis ufleba uzrunvelyofilia<br />
sxvadasxva saerTaSoriso<br />
SeTanxmebiT, maT Soris, adamianis<br />
uflebaTa konvenciisa da qalTa<br />
mimarT diskriminaciis yvela formis<br />
aRmofxvris Sesaxeb konvenciis<br />
CaTvliT. orive zemoT moyvanili<br />
dokumenti mouwodebs qveynebs,<br />
erovnul kanonmdeblobaSi qorwinebis<br />
minimalur asakad daafiqsiros<br />
18 weli. miuxedavad am samarTlebrivi<br />
garantiisa, aTasamde<br />
gogona qorwindeba 18 wlamde. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, es problema ver<br />
mogvardeba mxolod kanonmdeblobis<br />
daxmarebiT. ufro aqtiuri<br />
muSaobaa saWiro xalxis damokidebulebis<br />
Sesacvlelad adreuli<br />
qorwinebisa da serTod, qalebisa<br />
da gogonebis sazogadoebaSi poziciis<br />
mimarT. adgilobriv doneze<br />
da msoflios masStabiT aseTi samuSaos<br />
gareSe, likas, anukisa da na-<br />
Tias msgavsi, aTasobiT gogona yovelwliurad<br />
adreuli qorwinebis<br />
gamo naTel momavals dakargavs.<br />
rogorc axali Taobis warmomadgeneli,<br />
imedi maqvs, rom axlo momavalSi<br />
saqarTveloSi aRar iqneba<br />
iseTi sazogadoebis adgili, romlisTvisac<br />
adreuli qorwineba<br />
problema sulac ar aris, sadac 20<br />
wlis gogonas naTesavebi da mezoblebi<br />
aRar Seawuxeben SekiTxvebiT:<br />
„aRar Txovdebi?” „rodemde<br />
unda iyo marto?” droa, Cvenma sazogadoebam<br />
gaacnobieros, rom adamiani,<br />
romelic ufro mowiful<br />
asakSi qorwindeba, didi albaTobiT,<br />
gaagrZelebs swavlas skolaSi,<br />
miiRebs umaRless ganaTlebas, karieras<br />
aawyobs da amiT saukeTeso<br />
investirebas gaukeTebs Tavisi ojaxis<br />
naTel momavals. gogonas, romelic<br />
Tavis droze qorwindeba,<br />
meti saSualeba eZleva, dagegmos<br />
sasurveli orsuloba.<br />
aSkaraa sargebeli gogonasTvis,<br />
romelic win ixedeba, profesias<br />
irCevs, fexze myarad dgeba, riTac<br />
sakuTar Tavsac, mSoblebsac da<br />
momaval qmar-Svilsac yovelmxriv<br />
exmareba da araviszea damokidebuli;<br />
quTaisis socialuri sacxovrebeli<br />
_ TavSesafris nacvlad sicocxlisTvis saSiSi sivrce<br />
Sorena laRaZe<br />
quTaisSi agebuli socialuri sacxovrisis Seno-<br />
bis 1 kv. m. farTis sabazro Rirebuleba 540 laria,<br />
557 56 23 66<br />
maSin rodesac quTaisis meriam masSi 1000 lari gada-<br />
ixada. Sesabamisad, quTaisis meriam 2 milioni lari kompanias zedmetad aunazRaura,<br />
_ amis Sesaxeb saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuris wlevandel angariSSia saubari.<br />
N17 (<strong>278</strong>) 21.05-27.05.2019 w.<br />
„sxvaoba meriis mier dokumenturad Cabarebul<br />
farTsa da faqtobrivad Sesrulebul<br />
samuSaos Soris Seadgens 83 kv. m., xolo<br />
sxvaoba Cabarebuli Senobis Rirebulebasa<br />
da eqspertizis daskvniT dadgenil Rirebulebas<br />
Soris Seadgens 2 mln. lars”, _<br />
naTqvamia auditis daskvnaSi.<br />
SenobaSi dReisTvis socialurad daucveli<br />
86 ojaxi cxovrobs.<br />
miranda nemsiwveriZe erT-erTi maTgania.<br />
igi ambobs, rom yvelaze metad iq Sesaxlebidan<br />
dRemde bunebrivi airisa da wylis<br />
uqonloba awuxebT. garda amisa, kedlebi TabaSirmuyaoTia<br />
nagebi, erTi uneblie, mkve-<br />
Tri moZraoba da SesaZloa, mezoblis oTax-<br />
Si aRmoCnde. mcxovreblebs yvelaze metad<br />
qari awuxebT. qaris dros Weri, kedlebi da<br />
fanjrebi iryeva. nemsiwveriZe adgilobriv<br />
xelisuflebas mouwodebs, gamovidnen kabinetebidan<br />
da mcxovreblebs pirispir daelaparakon.<br />
quTaisSi socialuri sacxovreblis mosawyobad<br />
konkursi 2016 wels gamocxadda,<br />
sadac monawileoba miiRo erTaderTma kompania<br />
Sps „sanom” da gaimarjva kidec. kompaniam<br />
sacxovreblis mosawyobad merias<br />
quTaisSi, nikeas quCaze mdebare yofili kav-<br />
Sirgabmulobis Senoba SesTavaza.<br />
Senobis keTilmowyobis samuSaoebi 2016-<br />
2017 wlebSi mimdinareobda. proeqti adgilobrivi<br />
biujetidan 2 milion 500 aTasi<br />
lariT dafinansda (Tavi me-3, muxli 33-e).<br />
Sps „sanom” merias Senoba oqtomberSi Caabara.<br />
sacxovrisi 2017 wlis pirvel oqtombers<br />
gaixsna. SenobaSi 80 usaxlkaro ojaxi,<br />
sul 350 adamiani 5-wliani cxovrebis uflebiT<br />
Sesaxlda. beneficiarebis arCevisas komisiam<br />
gaiTvaliswina socialurad daucvelTaTvis<br />
miniWebuli qulebi, ojaxSi wevrebis,<br />
maT Soris, arasrulwlovani bavSvebisa<br />
da SSm pirebis raodenoba.<br />
2018 wlis dasawyisSi SenobaSi mcxovrebi<br />
moqalaqeebi sacxovrisSi arsebul pirobebze<br />
alaparakdnen. maTi TqmiT, Senobas<br />
wyali grafikiT miewodeboda, mosaxleebi<br />
ar iyvnen uzrunvelyofili bunebrivi airiT,<br />
wvimis dros ki iataki sveldeboda da<br />
fanjrebidan wyali Sedioda.<br />
quTaisis meriis sabinao infrastruqturis<br />
marTvisa da ganviTarebis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosis movaleobis Semsrulebeli, joni<br />
arabiZe, acxadebda, rom xarvezebis Sesaxeb<br />
Sps „sano” informirebuli iyo. im droisTvis<br />
kompaniisTvis gadasaricxi Tanxidan<br />
merias 582 00 lari swored msgavsi xarvezebis<br />
aRmosafxvrelad hqonda dakavebuli.<br />
beneficiarebis Sesaxlebidan eqvsi Tvis<br />
Semdeg sacxovrisSi Weri Camoingra. qalaqis<br />
yofili meri, SoTa murRulia, JurnalistebTan<br />
saubrisas maSin acxadebda, rom<br />
rodesac Senoba gaixsna, merias eqspertizis<br />
daskvna hqonda, romlis mixedviTac Senoba<br />
sacxovrebel standartebs absoluturad<br />
Seesabameboda. murRulias gancxadebiT,<br />
mSeneblobis<br />
dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg meriam kompaniisTvis<br />
gadasaricxi<br />
Tanxidan<br />
garkveuli raodenoba<br />
daakava, romelic<br />
Sps „sanos”<br />
im SemTxvevaSi unda<br />
gadauxadon,<br />
Tu SenobaSi rame<br />
xarvezi aRmoCndeba.<br />
Tavis mxriv,<br />
kompaniis warmomadgenlebi<br />
aRniSnavdnen, rom xarvezebs<br />
gamoasworebdnen mas Semdeg, Tu aRmoCndeboda,<br />
rom Senobas ziani maT mier arasaTanadod<br />
Catarebuli samuSaoebis gamo miadga.<br />
2018 wlis martSi SenobaSi arsebuli<br />
xarvezebis Seswavla meriaSi Seqmnilma specialurma<br />
komisiam daiwyo. sanam komisia problemebs<br />
Seiswavlida, socialur sacxovris-<br />
Si Weri samjer Camoingra. SenobaSi mcxovrebma<br />
moqalaqeebma meriis win aqcia gamarTes<br />
da xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebsac<br />
Sexvdnen. sacxovrisSi arsebuli rTuli<br />
sacxovrebeli pirobebis gamo beneficiarebi<br />
alternatiul farTSi Sesvlas iTxovdnen.<br />
socialur sacxovrisSi arsebuli mdgomareobis<br />
Seswavla levan samxaraulis saxelobis<br />
sasamarTlo eqspertizis erovnuli<br />
biuros dasavleT saqarTvelos regionul<br />
ganyofilebas daevala. TemasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
mediasTan komentari Sps „sanos” xelmZRvanelmac<br />
gaakeTa. oTar samyuraSvili<br />
aRniSnavda, rom TabaSirmuyao, romelic Senobis<br />
kedlebs faravda, mosaxleebis uyuradRebobiT<br />
dazianda, xolo bunebrivi airi,<br />
romlis Seyvanasac mcxovreblebi moiTxovdnen,<br />
SenobaSi merias unda Seeyvana. samyuraSvilis<br />
TqmiT, merias maTTvis ar ucnobebia<br />
sacxovrisSi arsebuli problemebis<br />
Sesaxeb da axali ambebi maT internetis<br />
meSveobiT Seityves.<br />
levan samxaraulis saxelobis<br />
sasamarTlo eqspertizis<br />
erovnuli<br />
biuros daskvna qalaq quTaisis merias<br />
2019 wlis ivnisis dasawyisSi gadaeca.<br />
meriam Sps „sanos” xarvezebis aRmofxvra<br />
daavala, dokumenti ki Sesaswavlad sagamo-<br />
Ziebo uwyebas gadasca. daskvnis nawili adgilobrivma<br />
TviTmmarTvelobam sazogadoebaSi<br />
arsebuli maRali interesidan gamomdinare<br />
gaasajarova. „samxaraulis” dokumentSi<br />
vkiTxulobT, rom sacxovrisis oTaxebi<br />
bunebrivi airis usafrTxo eqspluataciaze<br />
arsebul moTxovnebs ver akmayofilebs,<br />
Senoba ver pasuxobs xanZarsawinaaRmdego<br />
normebs, aseve quTaisis meriis<br />
2017 wlis brZaneba #205-iT SeTanxmebuli<br />
samSeneblo dokumentis proeqti ar Seesabameba<br />
2016 wels gaformebuli winare xelSekrulebis<br />
pirobebs. rogorc zemoT<br />
aRvniSneT, am etapze eqspertizis daskvna sagamoZiebo<br />
uwyebam Seiswavla.<br />
socialuri sacxovrisis sakiTxi saxelmwifo<br />
auditis samsaxuris angariSSic mox-<br />
vda. angariSSi naTqvamia, rom samuSaoebi SenobaSi<br />
darRveviT Sesrulda. garda amisa,<br />
ikveTeba meriasa da kompanias Soris SesaZlo<br />
garigebis niSnebi.<br />
auditis samsaxurma sakonkurso pirobebis<br />
Seswavlis Sedegad gamoavlina, rom Seu-<br />
Zlebelia, 18 dReSi kompanias moexerxebina<br />
proeqtis Sedgena da mSeneblobis nebarTvis<br />
miReba. Sesabamisad, angariSis mixedviT, aris<br />
riski, rom konkursi formaluri iyo da<br />
winaswar ganisazRvra, vin unda gamxdariyo<br />
gamarjvebuli.<br />
angariSis Tanaxmad, sabolood konkurs-<br />
Si mxolod erTma kompaniam, Sps „sanom” miiRo<br />
monawileoba, romelic ar akmayofilebda<br />
moTxovnebs, Tumca diskvalifikaciis<br />
nacvlad kompania gamarjvebulad gamocxadda.<br />
man droulad ver daasrula mSenebloba,<br />
ris gamoc meriam jarimis dakisrebis<br />
nacvlad, mSeneblobis vada gauxangrZliva.<br />
angariSis mixedviT, sagulisxmoa is faqtic,<br />
rom aRniSnuli samSeneblo kompania<br />
axali daregistrirebuli iyo, is quTaisis<br />
2016 wlis biujetis damtkicebidan 8 dReSi<br />
daregistrirda.<br />
angariSis mixedviT, sabolood, quTaisis<br />
meriam ise Caibara socialuri saxli da Sps<br />
„sanos” 4,3 mln lari ise aunazRaura, rom<br />
ar Seumowmebia samuSaos xarisxi da Tavdapirvel<br />
proeqtTan misi Sesabamisoba.<br />
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„saqstatis” cnobiT, bolo cxra<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi umuSevrobis<br />
donis Semcirebis tendencia fiqsirdeba,<br />
amasTan ukanaskneli 15<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi aRniSnuli maCvenebeli<br />
2018 wels yvelaze dabal<br />
niSnuls aRwevs.<br />
2018 wels ekonomikurad aqtiurma<br />
mosaxleobam Sromisunariani<br />
asakis mosaxleobis (15 wlisa da<br />
ufrosi asakis mosaxleoba) 63.9%<br />
Seadgina. 2017 welTan SedarebiT<br />
Semcirebulia rogorc mosaxleobis<br />
aqtiurobis done, ise dasaqmebis<br />
done, Sesabamisad, 1.9 da 0.9%-<br />
uli punqtebiT. qalaqis tipis dasaxlebebSi<br />
dasaqmebis done, wina<br />
welTan SedarebiT, gazrdilia 1.2<br />
procentuli punqtiT, xolo soflis<br />
tipis dasaxlebebSi aRniSnuli<br />
maCvenebeli Semcirebulia 3.4<br />
procentuli punqtiT. aqtiurobis<br />
done wina welTan SedarebiT qalaqis<br />
tipis dasaxlebebSi Semcirebulia<br />
1.0 procentuli punqtiT,<br />
xolo soflis tipis dasaxlebebSi<br />
_ 3.1 procentuli punqtiT.<br />
statistikis mixedviT, 2018<br />
wels daqiravebulTa wili dasaqmebulebSi<br />
50.8 procents Seadgenda,<br />
rac 2.5 procentuli punqtiT aris<br />
gazrdili wina welTan SedarebiT.<br />
unda aRiniSnos, rom bolo xuTi<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi TviTdasaqmebulTa<br />
klebis tendencia fiqsirdeba<br />
da 2018 wels pirvelad daqiravebulTa<br />
raodenobam gadaaWarba<br />
TviTdasaqmebulebs.<br />
umuSevrobis done gacilebiT<br />
dabalia sasoflo dasaxlebebSi,<br />
saqalaqo dasaxlebebTan SedarebiT.<br />
2018 wels, wina welTan SedarebiT,<br />
umuSevrobis done saqalaqo<br />
dasaxlebebSi 3.5 procentuli punqtiT<br />
aris Semcirebuli, xolo sasoflo<br />
dasaxlebebSi gazrdilia<br />
0.7 proceentuli punqtiT.<br />
„saqstatis” informaciiT, wina<br />
welTan SedarebiT, 2018 wels umuSevrobis<br />
done Semcirebulia<br />
Tbilisis, aWaris, imereTisa da guriis<br />
regionebSi. TbilisSi, sadac<br />
umuSevrobis donis yvelaze maRali<br />
maCvenebeli fiqsirdeba, aRniSnuli<br />
maCvenebeli 5.9 procentuli<br />
punqtiT aris Semcirebuli, xolo<br />
aWarisa da imereTis regionebSi,<br />
Sesabamisad, 1.8 da 1.6 procentuli<br />
punqtebiT. umuSevrobis done<br />
yvelaze metad gazrdilia samegrelo-zemo<br />
svaneTisa da mcxeTa-mTianeTis<br />
regionebSi, Sesabamisad, 3.3<br />
da 1.9 procentuli punqtebiT.<br />
statistikis mixedviT, umuSevrobis<br />
done tradiciulad maRalia<br />
kacebSi, qalebTan SedarebiT. 2018<br />
wels aRniSnuli maCvenebeli kaceb-<br />
Si 2.7 procentuli punqtiT aRemateboda<br />
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zogadad, cnobili da naTelia, ma-<br />
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rom lukma-puri iSovon, adamianebi sazRvargareT garbian, erT-<br />
erTi saxelmwifo uwyeba, kerZod, „saqstati” gvimtkicebs, rom<br />
bolo wlebSi umuSevrobis done Semcirda. metic, ramdenime dRis<br />
win qarTulma internetmediam statistikis erovnuli samsaxuris<br />
monacemebi gaavrcela, romlis mixedviTac, 2018 wels, 2017 welTan<br />
SedarebiT, saqarTveloSi umuSevrobis done, Turme, 1.2 procen-<br />
tuli punqtiT Semcirda da 12.7% procenti Seadgina.<br />
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bels. amasTan, aRniSnuli maCvenebeli<br />
2018 wels 2017 welTan SedarebiT<br />
qalebSi Semcirda 1.5 procentuli<br />
punqtiT, xolo kacebSi _ 1.1<br />
procentuli punqtiT.<br />
aqtiurobis done SedarebiT<br />
maRalia kacebSi. 2018 wels qaleb-<br />
Si aqtiurobis done 55.6 procents,<br />
xolo kacebSi _ 73.6 procents Seadgenda.<br />
2018 wels, 2017 welTan<br />
SedarebiT, aqtiurobis done qalebSi<br />
Semcirebulia 2.6 procentuli<br />
punqtiT, xolo kacebSi _ 1.0<br />
procentuli punqtiT.<br />
2018 wels, 2017 welTan SedarebiT,<br />
qalebSi dasaqmebis done 1.5<br />
procentuli punqtiT Semcirda,<br />
xolo kacebSi ucvleli darCa.<br />
gamokvlevis Sedegebis analizi<br />
asakobriv WrilSi aCvenebs, rom<br />
2018 wels umuSevrobis yvelaze<br />
maRali done kvlav 20-24 wlis asakobriv<br />
jgufSi fiqsirdeba (30.8%),<br />
xolo aRniSnuli maCvenebeli, tradiciulad,<br />
yvelaze dabalia 65+<br />
asakobriv jgufSi, romlis umTavres<br />
mizezs warmoadgens Sesabamis<br />
asakobriv jgufSi araaqtiurobis<br />
donis SedarebiT maRali maCvenebeli”,<br />
_ naTqvamia „saqstatis” monacemebSi.<br />
saerTod, realobis Secvla, anu<br />
sakuTari fantaziis sasurvel realobad<br />
warmoCena, qarTuli politikuri<br />
elitis erTgvari daavadebaa.<br />
diax, marto amJamindeli xelisufleba<br />
ki ara, misi yvela<br />
winamorbedic ise warmoaCenda, rom<br />
TiTqos xalxisa da qveynis keTildReobaze<br />
zrunavda da yvelafers<br />
akeTebda, rom mosaxleobas ukeTes<br />
pirobebSi ecxovra, magram qarTuli<br />
andazaa, tyuils mokle fexebi<br />
aqvso da yvela mTavrobis es tyuilic<br />
male iSifreboda xolme.<br />
dResac asea _ „ocneba” gvimtkicebs,<br />
„rusTavi 2-s” uyurebT da amitomac<br />
gSiaT, Torem sinamdvile-<br />
Si Tqveni macivrebi sursaT-sanovagiT<br />
aris savse, arc laria gaufasurebuli<br />
da, saerTodac, saqarTvelo<br />
ganviTarebadi da maCanCala<br />
saxelmwifo ki araa, aramed Cveni<br />
ekonomika yvavis da dRe-dReze amerikis<br />
SeerTebul Statebs an romelime<br />
sxva zeganviTarebul qveyanas<br />
ukan CamovitovebTo.<br />
naTqvamia, ocnebas kaci ar mouklavso.<br />
samagierod, adamianebs politikuri<br />
ocnebebi klavs. yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, „qronika+-ma” erTi martivi<br />
eqsperimenti Caatara _<br />
„rusTavi 2" gamorTo da imis gasagebad,<br />
Tu rogor cxovrobs mosaxleoba,<br />
xalxSi gavida, anu ufro<br />
konkretulad rom vTqvaT, bolo<br />
ramdenime kviris ganmavlobaSi Cven<br />
saqarTvelos sxvadasxva regionSi<br />
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suraTi dagvxvda _ mosaxleobas<br />
ukiduresad uWirs!<br />
ai, magaliTad, madlena W-Svili<br />
imereTis erT-erT raionSi cxovrobs.<br />
is socialurad daucvel-<br />
Ta siaSi imitom ar aris, rom erTerT<br />
adgilobriv saxelmwifo uwyebaSi<br />
damlageblad muSaobs da<br />
misi yovelTviuri anazRaureba 220<br />
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is aris, am saxlSi ra aqvs? ori<br />
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romlis karic _ arc meti,<br />
arc naklebi _ TokiT aris dabmuli<br />
_ ai, sul es gaxlavT Cveni respondentis<br />
avladideba.<br />
kidev erTi nivTi, romelic Cven<br />
qalbatoni madonas saxlSi vnaxeT,<br />
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imis gamoc grZnobs, rom ve-<br />
rafriT gvimaspinZldeba, _ netav,<br />
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iT, maRaziaSi „nisiad” naleqian yavas<br />
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liani gveubneba axalgazrda qali<br />
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_ erTaderTi Svili martom da<br />
vaivaglaxiT gavzarde _ sami wlis<br />
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miyides, Torem quCaSi momiwevda<br />
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_ meuRle isev cixeSia?<br />
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da maleve gardaicvala.<br />
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_ ara, Cemi gogo ukve 25 wlisaa,<br />
umaRlesi rom daamTavra, quTais-<br />
Si gaTxovda. madloba RmerTs, rom<br />
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_ Svili ar gexmarebaT xolme?<br />
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Semdeg CvenTan mmarTvelobis axal formas<br />
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iqneba, procenti aRar gadamixdia<br />
da bankidan yovel Tve mirekaven,<br />
_ an krediti dafare, an binas<br />
gagiyidiTo. aRar vici, ra vqna.<br />
_ ki magram, SarSan, sapreziden-<br />
to arCevnebis win, e. w. ganulebis<br />
programa rom gamoacxada „oc-<br />
nebam”, am siaSi ar moxvdiT?<br />
_ ara.<br />
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_ aba, ra giTxraT? _ albaT, mag<br />
siaSic xalxi nacnobobiT Seiyvanes,<br />
Tan iciT, ra xdeba?<br />
_ ra?<br />
_ ar vici, es unda giTxraT Tu ara.<br />
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gazeTSi ar daweroT, Torem Sei-<br />
Zleba, samsaxuridanac gamagdon da<br />
mTlad ulukmapurod davrCe.<br />
_ ki batono, ar davwerT, ma-<br />
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_ me „ocnebis” momxre ar var.<br />
_ „nacionali” xarT?<br />
_ ara, arc „nacionali” var.<br />
politika saerTod ar mainteresebs,<br />
magram arCevnebze rom mivdivar<br />
xolme, Salva naTelaSvils va-<br />
Zlev xmas.<br />
_ es Tqveni uflebaa _ Cven<br />
demokratiul qveyanaSi vcx-<br />
ovrobT.<br />
_ sad aris demokratia? demokratia<br />
SeiZleba, qalaqSia, Torem<br />
CvenTan, sofelSi, yvelaferi sxvanairad<br />
aris.<br />
_ ras hqvia, sxvanairad aris?<br />
_ ai, mTavrobis maqebari unda<br />
iyo da puric geqneba da wyalic!<br />
eg ki arada, ubanSi agentebic<br />
hyavT, erTi mezobelia, sul modis<br />
da mekiTxeba, visi momxre xaro.<br />
vatyueb, „ocnebis”-meTqi. damlageblis<br />
adgilic am mezobelma miSova<br />
da axla rom gaigon, „ocnebas”<br />
ar vuWer mxars, SeiZleba, samsaxuridan<br />
gamomagdon!<br />
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Sokismomgvreli qronikebi<br />
zogadad, politikuri terori<br />
qarTuli realobisTvis ucxo namdvilad<br />
ar aris. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom „ocneba” acxadebs, dRes gansxvavebuli<br />
politikuri SexedulebebisTvis<br />
aravin idevnebao,<br />
magram xom iciT, SiSs didi Tvalebi<br />
aqvs. hoda, adamianebis kategorias<br />
eSinia. SiSis sindromi umetesad<br />
socialurad daucvelTa fenebSi<br />
SeiniSneba, radgan am kategoriaze<br />
zemoqmedeba Zalian advilia<br />
_ socialur daxmarebas mouxsnian<br />
an ufaso sasadilodan gamoagdeben<br />
da a. S.<br />
ise, samarTlianobisTvis unda<br />
iTqvas, rom socialurad daucveli<br />
feniT manipulireba „ocnebis”<br />
nou-hau namdvilad ar aris. gaWirvebul<br />
xalze politikurad wina<br />
xelisuflebac manipulirebda. zogadad,<br />
cnobilia, rom socialurad<br />
daucveli masebis marTva gacilebiT<br />
advilia. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu msoflio istorias gadavavlebT<br />
Tvals, im qveynebSi, sadac<br />
diqtatoruli da avtoritaruli<br />
reJimebi arsebobda, xalxi, rogorc<br />
wesi, gaWirvebuli iyo xolme.<br />
xelaRebiT ver vityviT, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
an diqtaturaa, an _<br />
avtoritarizmi. 2012 wlis Semdeg<br />
CvenTan mmarTvelobis axal formas<br />
Caeyara safuZveli _ e. w. demokratiul<br />
feodalizms, romelsac<br />
araformalur mmarTvelobas eZaxian,<br />
Tumca Temidan ar gadavuxvevT<br />
da saqarTvelos duxWir cxovrebaze<br />
gavagrZelebT saubars.<br />
mokled, imerel respondents,<br />
qalbaton madonas, erTi arae-<br />
Tikuri kiTxva davusviT, anu imiT<br />
davinteresdiT, Tu rodis hqonda<br />
bolos xorciani kerZi?<br />
_ xorci? _ isev cremli moeria<br />
qalbatons, _ ramdenime welia, xorci<br />
ar miyidia! xorci rom viyido,<br />
mere komunaluri gadasaxadebi<br />
rogorRa gadavixado? es ki<br />
arada, erTze met naTurasac ar<br />
vanTeb, rom bevri ar daweros!<br />
SesaZloa, vinme ifiqros, rom<br />
qalbatoni madona iSviaTi gamonaklisia<br />
an Cven aseTi gaWirvebuli<br />
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magram es viRacebis mxridan<br />
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qalbatoni madonas msgavsi Cvens<br />
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e. w. ufaso sasadiloebis bumia.<br />
amas garda, oficialuri monacemebiT,<br />
socialurad daucvelTa bazaSi<br />
ramdenime aseuli aTasi adamiania,<br />
rac imaze metyvelebs, rom<br />
saqarTveloSi cxovrebis done<br />
Zalian, Zalian, dabalia.<br />
rac Seexeba „saqstatis” monacemebs,<br />
romlis Sesaxebac werilis<br />
dasawyisSi vsaubrobdiT da romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac, saqarTveloSi umuSevroba<br />
TiTqos Semcirda, es rom<br />
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mowmobs. yovel SemTxvevaSi, mimdinare<br />
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yvelaze senstitiuria.<br />
„mTavrobas xalxi ar uyvars”, _<br />
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gaWirvebis mogvareba xelisuflebas<br />
SeuZlia, magram Tavs ar iwuxebs<br />
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„arafers warmoadgens mosaxleoba<br />
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davrCebi”, _ ambobs Suaxnis qalbatoni,<br />
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Cveni wina respondentis msgavsad,<br />
imitom erideba, rom ar unda,<br />
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da amis gamo problemebi Seeqmnas.<br />
„67 wlis qali var, magram amaze<br />
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ar vici, rodis unda mogvaqcion<br />
yuradReba. xelisufleba ise<br />
gviyurebs, rogorc sazarbazne<br />
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`ai, mTavrobis maqebari unda iyo da puric geqneba da wyalic! eg ki arada,<br />
ubanSi agentebic hyavT, erTi mezobelia, sul modis da mekiTxeba, visi<br />
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samsaxuridan gamomagdon!~<br />
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daviwyeb!~<br />
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mayvala, 56 wlis:<br />
„mTavroba xalxs aramed rom<br />
miiCnevdes, imaze izrunebda, rom<br />
samuSao adgilebi Seeqmna da Sim-<br />
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da arc _ ucxoeTSi seirnobas”.<br />
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„ver gaZRa magaTi muclebi,<br />
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an sazRvargareT wavides!”<br />
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„meSvide welia, es mTavrobaa da<br />
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partiebi da samoqalaqo<br />
seqtori. Cven erToblivad vqmniT<br />
saxelmwifos. TiToeulma<br />
Cvenganma unda SevitanoT Cveni<br />
wvlili saxelmwifos ganviTarebaSi.<br />
aucileblad aRsaniSnia axalgazrdebis<br />
problemebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT TviTrwmenis arqona,<br />
rac fobiebiT aris gamoxatuli,<br />
magaliTad: „Cems azrs aravin<br />
iTvaliswinebs”, „me aravin arafers<br />
mekiTxeba, aravin mismens”...<br />
axalgazrdebs minda movuwodo,<br />
rom es ase namdvilad ar aris.<br />
Zalian niWieri Taoba mxvdeba,<br />
imaze metad saqmeze orientirebuli,<br />
vidre dRes arian sakanonmdeblo<br />
organoSi. am axalgazrdebs<br />
Zalian saintereso xedvebi<br />
da ideebi aqvT, am yvelafers<br />
ki generireba da swori mimarTulebis<br />
micema sWirdeba,<br />
rom axalgazradas ar hqondeT<br />
gancda, TiTqos saxelmwifoebriv<br />
ganviTarebas absoluturad<br />
mowyvetili arian.<br />
_ swored imitom, rom axal-<br />
gazrdebi mowyvetilebi arian<br />
saxelmwifoebrivi ganviTarebis<br />
process, maT uperspeqtivobis<br />
gamo uCndebaT qveynis datove-<br />
bis survili. ramdenad sagan-<br />
gaSo viTarebaa am kuTxiT?<br />
_ Tu gaviTvaliswinebT 2012<br />
wlidan 2018 wlamde monacemebs,<br />
daaxloebiT milion 800 aTasma<br />
datova qveyana. qveynis datovebis<br />
msurvelTa raodenoba izrdeba,<br />
axalgazrdebi Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
sakuTar Tavs ver pouloben,<br />
Tavis damkvidreba uWirT.<br />
saxelmwifom unda Seqmnas is<br />
`rodesac adamianTa jgufi an ori adamiani<br />
erTmaneTTan raRac sakiTxebze Tanxmdeba,<br />
yovelTvis aris garkveuli Tanxvedris<br />
wertilebi, magram rodesac dasaxuli<br />
miznisken mimavali gzidan gadauxveven da<br />
partia droSi ascdeba politikur procesebs,<br />
CemTvis, rogorc aqtiuri moqalaqisTvis,<br />
msgavsi politikuri dRis wesrigi miuRebelia~<br />
dRis wesrigi da saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
xedva, romelic axalgazrdebs<br />
daainteresebs da Tavis<br />
damkvidrebis safuZvels miscems.<br />
vaxsene, rom xSirad miwevs<br />
regionebSi siaruli. raionebi<br />
da soflebi absoluturad daclilia<br />
axalgazrdebisgan. magaliTad,<br />
viyavi TianeTSi, sadac,<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom mamalic ki<br />
ar yivis, iseTi soflebia, axalgazrdebs<br />
saerTod ver SexvdebiT,<br />
erTi-ori Tu moiZebneba.<br />
nacvlad imisa, rom axalgazrdebs<br />
regionebSi, soflebSi<br />
darCenis survili gavuCinoT,<br />
Cveni xelisufleba mizanmimarTulad<br />
qmnis iseT realobas,<br />
rom rac SeiZleba metma adamianma<br />
datovos qveyana, iseT regulaciebs<br />
axorcielebs, romelic<br />
TviTdamkvidrebis yvelanair<br />
wyaros spobs, adamians<br />
iZulebuls xdis, sakuTar Tavsa<br />
da qmedebebze uari Tqvas. aseve<br />
aucileblad unda aRvniSno<br />
erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi<br />
problema, _ ganaTlebis sistemis<br />
ararseboba. am pirobebSi ara<br />
mgonia, satrabaxo gvqondes. namdvilad<br />
ver vityviT, rom ganaTlebis<br />
kuTxiT reformatorebi<br />
varT da im moTxovnebs vpasuxobT,<br />
rac dagviwesa evrokavSirma,<br />
evrosabWom da a. S. umTavresi<br />
problema codnis kapitalis<br />
danergva, teqnologiebisa da<br />
ekonomikis ganviTarebaa. am sami<br />
ZiriTadi fundamenturi sakiTxis<br />
gareSe axalgazrdisa da miT<br />
umetes, saxelmwifosa da adamianuri<br />
resursis ganviTareba<br />
yovlad SeuZlebelia. ramdenic<br />
ar unda visaubroT problemebze,<br />
saboloo jamSi, mivdivarT<br />
ganaTlebis problemasTan. ganaTlebuli<br />
Taoba da sazogadoeba<br />
qmnis ganaTlebul da Zlier<br />
saxelmwifos. damoukideblobis<br />
dRidan moyolebuli dRemde<br />
ukve meramdene xelisufleba<br />
SevicvaleT, magram arc erT xelisuflebas<br />
dRis wesrigSi ar<br />
hqonia nomer pirvel problemad<br />
dayenebuli saxelmwifo sazRvrebis<br />
demarkacia. warmogidgeniaT,<br />
rom romelime saxelmwifos<br />
ar hqondes Tavisi sademarkaco<br />
xazi dadgenili?! magaliTad,<br />
me ar vici, sad aris saqarTvelo-azerbaijanis,<br />
saqarTvelo-somxeTis<br />
sazRvari, erTaderTi<br />
vici saqarTvelo-Turqe-<br />
Tis sazRvari, romelic sarfzea.<br />
ruseTis federaciasTan sazRvrebze<br />
saubari xom saerTod<br />
zedmetia! rodesac saxelmwifoebriv<br />
problemaze vsaubrobT,<br />
diax, es aris nomer pirveli<br />
problema, am problemis mogvarebis<br />
gareSe ar SeiZleba Tqva,<br />
rom Sen xar saxelmwifo, yovelgvari<br />
dramatizebisa da gada-<br />
Warbebis gareSe vambob. evrokav-<br />
Siris qveynebi moqmedeben erTi<br />
sazRvris principiT, magram maT<br />
mainc aqvT sazRvrebi dadgenili.<br />
aSS mkacrad gansazRvravs<br />
meqsikasTan sazRvars; israelic,<br />
TurqeTic. CvenTan ki ar arsebobs<br />
imis politikuri neba, rom<br />
sademarkacio politika Semu-<br />
Savdes. problemebis mogvareba,<br />
pirvel rigSi, saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />
sistemis mowesrigebiT<br />
unda daiwyos da aseve unda<br />
gatardes saxelmwifosTvis misaRebi<br />
ganaTlebis politika.<br />
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saberZneTSi, qalaq aTenSi, momR-<br />
giorgi sakaruli<br />
eral mamuka Carkvianis solo konc-<br />
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erti gaimarTa. musikosi aTenSi av-<br />
Tandil miqaberiZis miwveviT Cavida.<br />
saRamos cremlis gareSe ar Cauvlia, radgan, rogorc momReral-<br />
ma „qronika+~-Tan saubrisas aRniSna, emigrantebTan Sexvedra sak-<br />
maod emociuri aRmoCnda misTvis da sxva monawileebisTvisac.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
mamuka Carkvianis solo koncerti aTenSi<br />
popularuli kompozitorisa<br />
da avtorSemsruleblis viziti<br />
ganxorcilda aTenis wm. ninos saxelobis<br />
qarTuli musikis studiis<br />
(xelmZRvaneli mamuka inaZe) saswavlo-SemecnebiTi<br />
programebis farglebSi,<br />
romelic moicavda: Sexvedrebs<br />
SemoqmedebiT axalgazrdobasTan<br />
da farTo sazogadoebas-<br />
Tan; aseve sami dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />
studiis aRsazrdelebTan Catarda<br />
erToblivi mecadineobebi da masterklasebi.<br />
saRamo gaimarTa kinoTeatr<br />
„trianonSi”, sadac mamuka<br />
CarkvianTan erTad monawileoba<br />
miiRo axalgazrda niWierma momReralma,<br />
proeqt „niWieris” finalistma<br />
_ lenka zviadaZem.<br />
saqarTveloSi dabrunebuli mamuka<br />
Carkviani da lenka zviadaZe<br />
„qronika+~-s Sexvdnen da iq gancdili<br />
STabeWdilebebi gagviziares.<br />
mamuka Carkviani _ avtor-Sem-<br />
srulebeli:<br />
_ saberZneTSi avTandil miqaberiZis<br />
miwveviT CavediT. es adamiani<br />
ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis<br />
kulturis saxlis damfuZnebeli<br />
gaxlavT, _ adamiani, romelic mTeli<br />
cxovreba Zalian karg, keTil<br />
da qarTul saqmes emsaxureba. bednieri<br />
var, rom am araCveulebriv<br />
qalaqs vestumreT, saidanac udidesi<br />
siTbo, siyvaruli da zRva emocia<br />
wamoviReT. bednieri var, rom<br />
Cems sayvarel emigrantebs Sevxvdi<br />
da erTi dRe gavulamazeT, romelic<br />
darwmunebuli var, didxans gahyvebaT.<br />
emigrantebTan Sexvedram<br />
yovelgvar molodins gadaaWarba.<br />
iseTi garemocva Segviqmnes, verc<br />
ki vigrZeniT, rom sxva qveyanaSi viyaviT,<br />
Tavi saqarTveloSi megona.<br />
_ emigrantebsa da ara marto<br />
maT, Zalian uyvarxarT. darwmu-<br />
nebuli var, koncertma anSlagiT<br />
Caiara.<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. koncerti 350-<br />
kacian araCveulebrivi kinoTeatris<br />
darbazSi gaimarTa. saRamom<br />
sruli anSlagiT Caiara. iyo bevri<br />
emocia, cremli, siTbo, udidesi<br />
siyvaruli... baton avTandil miqaberiZes<br />
aqvs kulturisa da ganaTlebis<br />
centri „kavkasia”, sadac<br />
qarTvelebi midian da ikribebian,<br />
rogorc sakuTar saxlSi. es maTi<br />
ojaxia.<br />
_ rogorc vici, masterklase-<br />
bic gqondaT. am centrSi axalga-<br />
zrda Taoba xelovnebas eziareba?<br />
_ diax. midian, sxdebian, isveneben,<br />
saubroben, sxvadasxva saxis<br />
saRamos marTaven. bavSvebs aswavlian,<br />
masterklasebi utardebaT,<br />
Sexvedrebi da bevri kargi<br />
saqme keTdeba. centris musikaluri<br />
xelmZRvaneli mamuka inaZea,<br />
romelic bavSvebs saocari qarTuli<br />
suliskveTebiT zrdis da es<br />
yvelaze didi bednierebaa.<br />
_ emociebi, romelic iq dagxv-<br />
daT...<br />
_ saocari. sityvebiT SeuZlebelia<br />
gadmovce is, rac zogadad aTenSi<br />
damxvda. saerTod yvela koncertze<br />
mayurebels, msmenels vesaubrebi,<br />
TiToeuli simReris istorias<br />
vuyvebi, rac SeiZleba axlo<br />
kontaqtSi var msmenelTan. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, erT-erTi qalbatoni<br />
yviroda, _ Jangbadi mieciT, Torem<br />
adamiani daixrCoo. bednierebis<br />
zeimi iyo.<br />
_ marto Tqven iyaviT, Tu sxva<br />
Semsruleblebic iyvnen?<br />
_ CemTan erTad Tbilisidan „ni-<br />
Wieris” finalisti, araCveulebrivi<br />
gogona da momRerali, lenka<br />
zviadaZe iyo, romelmac sakmaod<br />
bevri simRera Seasrula. mTliani<br />
saRamo, ra Tqma unda, cocxali<br />
SesrulebiT Catarda. aseve prodiuseri<br />
caia yifiani gaxldaT, ni-<br />
Wieri axalgazrda saba ivaniSvili,<br />
saRamoze adgilobrivma gundma<br />
simRera Seasrula.<br />
_ Tqveni simRerebidan yovel-<br />
Tvis Zalian didi emocia modis,<br />
rac mayurebelzec gadamdebia.<br />
miT umetes, Tqven xarT musikosi,<br />
romelic arasdros atyuebs msme-<br />
nels da cocxlad mReris...<br />
_ yvela simReras emociiT vm-<br />
Reri. mirCevnia, xma ar mqondes da<br />
mainc cocxlad vimRero. merab sefaSvilma<br />
Cemze genialuri ram<br />
Tqva, _ mamuka sul cocxlad imitom<br />
mReris, rom fonogramas pirs<br />
ver ayolebso. merabs aseTi komplimentisTvis<br />
didi madloba gadavuxade.<br />
zogierTi radios rom<br />
CarTavs da mReris, uxerxulia…<br />
simRera speqtaklia, Sen ki msaxiobi<br />
xar, gamodixar da oTx wuTSi<br />
yvelaferi – prologi, epilogi _<br />
unda moaswro, Tumca mizansceniT<br />
unda daiwyo, mere kulminacia da<br />
dasasruli. es rTulia da vinc ver<br />
akeTebs, vurCev, ar imReros…<br />
_ batono mamuka, msmeneli Tqv-<br />
engan sul siaxleebs elodeba. miT<br />
umetes dRes, roca ase aqtiurad<br />
CaebiT SemoqmedebiT saqmianobaSi<br />
da gaqvT uamravi koncerti. amJa-<br />
mad ras unda elodos qarTuli<br />
sazogadoeba? ra siaxleebia<br />
Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi?<br />
_ musikis gareSe cxovreba erTi<br />
wuTiTac ar SemiZlia. sul vukrav,<br />
sul ZiebaSi var, siaxleebSi. vmu-<br />
Saob axal simReraze, faqtobrivad,<br />
dasrulebulia da male Sedgeba<br />
am simReris premierac. simReras<br />
„simaRle” hqvia. garda amisa, 29<br />
maiss „rusTavelis TeatrSi” koncerti<br />
maqvs da zafxulSi sruliad<br />
saqarTvelos movivli koncertebiT.<br />
_ es iqneba sazafxulo turne<br />
Tu?..<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ romel regionebs estumre-<br />
biT?<br />
_ kaxeTs: yvarels, sagarejos;<br />
quTaiss, baTums, saCxeres, raWaleCxums;<br />
SemoTavazeba maqvs<br />
amerikidan, sadac Cemi koncerti<br />
igegmeba da es, savaraudod,<br />
seqtembris<br />
bolos moxdeba. ukve<br />
mimdinareobs mzadeba<br />
da vnaxoT... yovelTvis<br />
bednieri var, roca Cems xalxs<br />
vumReri da lamaz saRamoebs vCuqni.<br />
_ sakmaod bevri koncerti gelodebaT<br />
win. batono mamuka, kon-<br />
certebis mxriv situacia gaumj-<br />
obesda Tu? Cven bevri momRer-<br />
lisgan gvsmenia, rom ar tardeba<br />
koncertebi da msgavsi ram, magram<br />
Tqven sul dakavebuli xarT.<br />
_ aravis velodebi, arc kulturis<br />
saministros da arc _ sxvas.<br />
mikavSirdebian adamianebi, romlebsac<br />
surT, rom koncertebi Ca-<br />
`emigrantebTan<br />
Sexvedram yovelgvar<br />
molodins gadaaWarba~<br />
vataro da mec didi siamovnebiT<br />
mivdivar da vmarTav SemoqmedebiT<br />
saRamoebs. am zafxuls, rogorc<br />
zemoT mogaxseneT, saqarTvelos<br />
TiTqmis yvela regionSi Cemi koncertia<br />
dagegmili.<br />
_ Tqven erT-erT interviuSi<br />
ambobT, rom dRes aRar iwereba<br />
melodiuri simRerebio. rogor<br />
fiqrobT, ratom?<br />
_ melodia daikarga da imitom.<br />
aRar gamodis sidi-diskebi. yvela<br />
internetzea gadasuli, risi an visi<br />
mosmenac surT internetSi, usmenen.<br />
qarTuli simRera ver itans<br />
Zlier melizmebs. 200-ze meti sim-<br />
Reraa, romelic mamaCemis leqszea<br />
dawerili. TiToeuli leqsi imRereba<br />
da melodiuria. dedaCemis<br />
leqsebze sami Tu oTxi simRera<br />
maqvs, Tumca erTi iseTia, yvelas<br />
udris: „suyvelaze lamazi Seni<br />
Tvalis feria”… me Tu mkiTxav, es<br />
ukvdavi simReraa… iseT simReras<br />
ver vmReri, Tu melodiuri ar<br />
aris.<br />
_ baton jansuRs SevexeT. gar-<br />
dacvalebamde ra iyo mamis bolo<br />
Txovna?<br />
_ sanam cocxali iyo, mama sul<br />
meubneboda, rom miaweqi kacobaso.<br />
TavSi ar agivardes araferi, Torem<br />
qarTvelebi uceb xelSi agitaceben<br />
da mere sul bzrial-bzrialiT<br />
qvemoT Camoxvalo.<br />
_ Tqveni dis politikur cx-<br />
ovrebaze minda gkiTxoT...<br />
_ yvelanairad Cemi dis gverdiT<br />
var. misi arCevani CemTvis misaRebia<br />
da yovelTvis mis gverdiT<br />
viqnebi, Tumca ar verevi arafer-<br />
Si, miT umetes, politikaSi. araa<br />
politika Cemi saqme.<br />
lenka zviadaZe _ momRerali:<br />
_ es iyo Zalian didi zeimi, romelic<br />
mamuka Carkvianma aCuqa qar-<br />
Tvel emigrantebs. bednieri var,<br />
rom masTan erTad momiwia am koncertSi<br />
monawileobis miReba da<br />
marTla miWirs im emociebis gadmocema,<br />
rac iq ganvicadeT. mamukas<br />
Semoqmedeba CemTvis Zalian<br />
bevr rames niSnavs.<br />
_ dueti SeasruleT Tu solo<br />
partiebi imRereT?<br />
_ gvqonda duetic da aseve daaxloebiT<br />
cxra simRera Sevasrule<br />
solo. sanam aTenSi Cavidodi, batonma<br />
avTandil miqaberiZem internetis<br />
saSualebiT gamacno saber-<br />
ZneTis „niWieris” finalisti, araCveulebrivi<br />
qarTveli momRerali<br />
lika maCitaZe, visTan erTadac<br />
Sevasrule aseve dueti.<br />
rogor<br />
daxvdnen<br />
qarTveli<br />
emigrantebi<br />
aTenSi<br />
mamuka<br />
Carkvians?!<br />
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mixeil basilaZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi<br />
ix. „qronika+~ (2018w.)<br />
##3-27;29-39; (2019w.)<br />
#2-6;8-16.<br />
somxeT-TurqeTis omi<br />
1920 wlis noemberi imdenad datvirTuli<br />
aRmoCnda mniSvnelovani<br />
politikuri TemebiT, rom sxva<br />
sferoebis mimoxilvisTvis, praqtikulad,<br />
adgili ar datova. noembris<br />
centraluri movlena somxeTosmaleTis<br />
omia, romelmac kavkasiis<br />
regionSi arsebuli ZalTa balansi<br />
mniSvnelovnad Secvala. oqtombris<br />
miwuruls sabrZolo moqmedebebi<br />
ganaxlda somxeT-TurqeTis<br />
frontze. 28 oqtombers osmalebma<br />
saerTo Seteva wamoiwyes, swrafad<br />
gatexes somxuri armiis winaaRmdegoba<br />
da sakuTar kontrols<br />
dauqvemdebares ardaganis olqis<br />
nawili. ori dRis Semdeg Turqebma<br />
kidev ufro win waiwies da strategiuli<br />
qalaqi yarsi daikaves. somxuri<br />
armia uwesrigod ixevda ukan.<br />
tyved Cavarda, daaxloebiT, 3<br />
aTasamde somexi jariskaci. noembris<br />
dasawyisSi osmalTa armiam<br />
mdinare arpaCais miaRwia da aleqsadropolis<br />
(dRevandeli giumri)<br />
misadgomebTan gamoCnda.<br />
ra Tqma unda, osmalTa Seteva<br />
udides safrTxes uqmnida saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifoebriobasac. amitom<br />
gazeTi „saqarTvelo” somxeT-<br />
TurqeTis dapirispirebis Sesaxeb<br />
informacias yvela nomerSi centralur<br />
adgils uTmobda.<br />
4 noembers gazeTi aqveynebs masalas<br />
SemaSfoTebeli saTauriT _<br />
„yarsi daeca!”. frontze Seqmnili<br />
zogadi viTarebis aRweris Semdeg<br />
statia, ZiriTadad, im safrTxeebs<br />
mimoixilavs, romelic saqarTvelos<br />
osmalebis mxridan emuqreboda:<br />
„yarsi daeca! qemal faSas jarebma<br />
Cveni mezobel saxelmwifos<br />
sazRvrebi gadmolaxes da somxeTis<br />
uZlieresi simagre aiRes! qemal<br />
faSas jarebi Cvens sazRvrebs uaxlovdebian.<br />
Cven darwmunebulni varT, rom<br />
mezobeli somxeTi yovel Rones ixmars,<br />
raTa jerovani pasuxi gasces<br />
gaTamamebul osmalo avantiuristis<br />
ieriSebs; ubedurebis win damdgari<br />
somxeTis xalxi amoswuravs<br />
mTel Tavis Zalebs, mtris asalagmavad.<br />
magram Cven mainc saWirod<br />
migvaCnia, jerovnad davafasoT<br />
Seqmnili mdgomareoba da saqarTvelos<br />
xalxs namdvili mdgomareoba<br />
vamcnoT: qemal faSas jarebi<br />
Zlieri winsvliT modian da somxe-<br />
Tze gamarjvebuli osmalo saqar-<br />
Tvelos sazRvrebTan ar gaCerdeba.<br />
saqarTvelos winaSe axali da<br />
didi gansacdeli sdgeba: omi osmaleTTan!<br />
axalgazrda respublikisTvis<br />
uCveuli ar aris karze momdgari<br />
safrTxe _ Tavisi damoukidebeli<br />
arsebobis ori wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
man ukve ramodenime omi ganicada<br />
da damarcxebuli igi brZolis velidan<br />
ar gamosula! magram saqar-<br />
Tvelos jarebi mamacurad da erTgulad<br />
idgebian saqarTvelos saz-<br />
Rvarze mxolod maSin, roca maT-<br />
Tan iqneba saqarTvelos mTeli xalxi,<br />
ganurCevlad erovnebisa mimarTulebisa<br />
da mdgomareobisa. saqarTvelos<br />
damoukideblobas qar-<br />
Tveli xalxi aravis dauTmobs!”<br />
yarsis dacemis Semdeg somexTa<br />
mdgomareoba kritikuli gaxda. 3<br />
noembers somxeTis mTavrobam osmaleTs<br />
sabrZolo moqmedebebis<br />
SeCerebisa da molaparakebis dawyebis<br />
TxovniT mimarTa. osmaleTis<br />
armiis xelmZRvanelma qazim-faSa<br />
qarabeqirma zavis sanacvlod aleqsadropolis<br />
dauyovnebeli dacla,<br />
am raionSi arsebuli yvela satransporto<br />
komunikaciis (xidebisa<br />
da rkinigzis) gadacema da somxuri<br />
jarebis 15 kilometriT ukan<br />
daweva moiTxova. somxeTi pirobebs<br />
dasTanxmda, magram omis SeCereba<br />
mainc ver moxerxda.<br />
7 noembers osmalebi aleqsadropolSi<br />
Sevidnen. demoralizebul<br />
somxur armiaSi dezertirobam masobrivi<br />
xasiaTi miiRo. fronti<br />
moirRva da osmalebs erevanze<br />
pirdapiri gza gaexsnaT. Turqebma<br />
am viTarebiT isargebles da axali<br />
piroba wamoayenes, romlis mixedviTac<br />
somxeTis mTavrobas mTeli<br />
SeiaraReba unda Caebarebina da jarebi<br />
kidev ufro ukan unda daexia.<br />
es, faqtobrivad, kapitulacias<br />
niSnavda, romelic somxebma ar miiRes.<br />
11 noembers Seteva ganaxlda,<br />
romlis Sedegadac Turqebma erevnisa<br />
da sevanis tbis garda, somxeTis<br />
mTeli teritoria daikaves.<br />
mobilizacia saqarTveloSi<br />
osmaleTis mosalodnel samxedro<br />
agresiasTan dakavSirebiT saqarTveloSi<br />
nawilobrivi mobilizacia<br />
gamocxadda. jarSi iwvevdnen<br />
1890-1893 wlebSi dabadebul rezervistebs.<br />
Svebuleba gauqmda saxalxo<br />
gvardiaSi. mobilizaciis vadad<br />
10-15 noemberi ganisazRvra. Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa ministris mier gamocemuli<br />
brZanebis Tanaxmad, is pirebi,<br />
romlebic jarSi gawvevas Tavs<br />
aaridebdnen, saomari viTarebis Sesabamisi<br />
simkacriT daisjebodnen.<br />
mobilizaciasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sagangebo brZaneba gamosca samxedro<br />
ministrma grigol lorTqifaniZem.<br />
am brZanebas gazeTi „saqarTvelo~<br />
12 noembris nomerSi<br />
aqveynebs. amonaridi brZanebidan:<br />
„mobilizaciis dros gauqmebulia<br />
yovelgvari SeRavaTi da gawveul<br />
unda iqmnan samobilizacio wleb-<br />
Si dabadebulni yvela saTadarigo<br />
da molaSqre jaris kacni, miuxedavad<br />
maTi samoqalaqo Tanamdebobisa...<br />
kategoriulad ebrZaneba respublikis<br />
yvela samxedro, samoqalaqo<br />
da sazogado dawesebulebaTa<br />
ufrosebs Seswyviton ama Tu<br />
im gasawvevebze gamocxadebis vadis<br />
gagrZelebis Sesaxeb yovelgvari<br />
SuamdgomlobaTa aRZvra da dauyovnebliv<br />
gaaTavisuflon isini mim-<br />
Reb komisiaSi gamosacxadeblaT”.<br />
damfuZnebelma krebam specialuri<br />
mimarTva miiRo, sadac mosaxleobas<br />
moaxloebuli safrTxis<br />
Sesaxeb amcnobda da patriotebs<br />
samSoblos dasacavad brZolisken<br />
mouwodebda.<br />
gazeTi „saqarTvelo”. 1920<br />
wlis 16 noemberi: „saqarTvelos<br />
xalxo! Cveni qveynis saukeTeso Svilebis<br />
sisxliT morwyul sazRvrebs<br />
kvlav emuqreba Tavxedi mteri.<br />
usaSinlesi tanjviT dauZlurebuli<br />
somxeTi didi wvalebiT uwevs<br />
winaaRmdegobas qemal-faSis brboebs:<br />
daeca yarsi, somxeTis saukeTeso<br />
simagre; osmalebma daiWires<br />
gumbri (aleqsadropoli). somxeTis<br />
ubedureba safrTxes umzadebs saqarTvelos<br />
Tavisufal arsebobas.<br />
qarTvelo xalxo! Seni Tavisufali<br />
demokratiuli samSoblo isev<br />
gansacdelSia da Sengan arCeuli<br />
damfuZnebeli kreba kvlav TavdacvisaTvis<br />
mogiwodebs. samSoblo<br />
mravalgvar msxverpls moiTxovs.<br />
Semoikribe Seni damfuZnebeli krebisa<br />
da mTavrobis irgvliv. daicaviT<br />
SigniT wesiereba. siyvaruliT<br />
da mzrunvelobiT moepyariT Cvens<br />
fronts. iqonieT Seudrekeli rwmena<br />
mterze gamarjvebisa da maSin<br />
saxelovani iqneba Cveni brZola.<br />
brwyinvale iqneba Cveni gamarjveba!”<br />
borCalos mazris dakaveba<br />
qarTuli armiis mier<br />
osmalTa Setevam da somxeTis<br />
istoriis<br />
faqtobrivma kapitulaciam dRis<br />
wesrigSi lores raionis kuTvnilebis<br />
sakiTxi daayena. 1918 wlis<br />
somxeT-saqarTvelos omis dros<br />
borCalos mazris sadavo teritoria<br />
– lores raioni – neitralur<br />
zonad gamocxadda. misi kuTvnilebis<br />
saboloo garkvevamde ki<br />
loreSi morigeobiT qarTuli da<br />
somxuri jari patrulirebda. Tumca<br />
maSin, rodesac osmalTa armiam<br />
mTlianad daikava somxeTis CrdiloeTi<br />
da somxeTma saqarTvelosTan<br />
saerTo sazRvari dakarga,<br />
okupaciis safrTxe lores neitralur<br />
zonasac daemuqra. loreSi<br />
osmalTa gabatoneba rom ar daeSva,<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebam raionSi<br />
qarTuli samxedro nawilebis<br />
Seyvana gadawyvita.<br />
am TemasTan dakavSirebiT gaze-<br />
Ti „saqarTvelo” 1920 wlis 13<br />
noembers did statias aqveynebs,<br />
romelic erovnul-demokratiuli<br />
partiis Tavmjdomare spiridon<br />
kedias ekuTvnis: „dRes somxeTma<br />
dahkarga saqarTvelos sxeulTan<br />
uSualo teritoriuli kontakti<br />
da borCalos Ria karebs qemali Semoadga...<br />
mdgomareobis saboloo<br />
garkvevamde, saqarTvelos SeeZlo<br />
borCalos mazraSi somxeTis mezobloba<br />
aetana da uSiSraTac yofiliyo.<br />
saqarTvelos ar SeuZlian am<br />
gvarsave sulier ganwyobilebaSi<br />
iyos dRes, rodesac aq somxeTis<br />
magier osmaleTis Cadgomaa mosalodneli.<br />
saSineli mdgomareoba Seiqmneba<br />
CvenTvis! Tbilisi uSualo gansacdelSi<br />
Cavardeba! Cveni Tavdacvis<br />
unari da Zala sanaxevroT<br />
daziandeba. neitrali zonis xazze<br />
qarTveli eri qemal faSas ver<br />
gaaCerebs, Tu Tavis arsebobazed<br />
xeli ar auRia. meores mxriT, ganadgurebul<br />
somxeTs ar SeuZlian<br />
am zonis dacva. aseT pirobebSi, Tu<br />
somxeTs ar surs saqarTvelos<br />
damxoba, man Tanxmoba unda mogvces,<br />
rom Cvenma jarma borCalo<br />
dauyovneblov daiWiros da mters<br />
dauxvdes bezobdalis qedzed!<br />
somxeTis aseTi nabiji awiokebas<br />
aaridebs im somxobas, romelic<br />
neitral zonaSi mosaxleobs da<br />
romelsac qemal faSa aras gziT ar<br />
daindobs! Tu somxeTma amis neba ar<br />
mogvca, sCans imas gardauwyvetia,<br />
raki TviTon waxda, Cvenc wagvaxdinos<br />
da qemal faSas pirSi migvces.<br />
maSin? maSin Cven Cveni unda vqnaT:<br />
dauyovnebliv unda daviWiroT neitrali<br />
zona da pirveli poziciebi<br />
im qedebze gavmarToT, romelnic<br />
yovelTvis saukeTeso damcvelni<br />
yofilan Tbilisisa da saqar-<br />
Tvelosi. CvenTvis yvelaferia Cveni<br />
damoukideblobis dacva. es ki<br />
1920 wlis<br />
moiTxovs im borCalos saswrafo<br />
daWeras, romelic yovelTvis Cveni<br />
yofila da aris. erTi danaSauli<br />
CavidineT da borCalos nawili<br />
sadaoT gavixadeT. ar CavidinoT<br />
meore danaSauli da ar davkargoT<br />
mTeli borCalo da mas zed<br />
saqarTveloc ar mivayoloT!”<br />
afxazeTis avtonomia<br />
1920 wlis 10 noembris gazeTi<br />
„saqarTvelo” iuwyeba, rom 6 noembers<br />
TbilisSi Camovida afxazeTis<br />
saxalxo sabWos 8-kaciani delegacia,<br />
romelsac ServaSiZe xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
saqarTvelos damfuZnebel<br />
krebasTan erTad, delegacias<br />
afxazeTis konstituciis saboloo<br />
varianti unda SeemuSavebina.<br />
rogorc cnobidan Cans, afxazebma<br />
TbilisSi konstituciis saku-<br />
Tari versia Camoitanes da is gansaxilvelad<br />
damfuZnebeli krebis<br />
prezidiumis interpartiul komisias<br />
gadasces. gazeTi aRniSnavs,<br />
rom afxazTa mier SemuSavebuli<br />
proeqti, ZiriTadad, misaRebi iyo<br />
da damatebiTi SeTanxmeba mxolod<br />
miwisa da sagareo vaWrobis politikis<br />
sakiTxs esaWiroeboda.<br />
afxazeTis avtonomiasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, 21 noembers gazeTi „saqarTvelo”<br />
kidev erT informacias<br />
aqveynebs, saidanac vigebT, rom<br />
afxazeTis delegaciam samuSao Sexvedra<br />
gamarTa saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
Tavmjdomare noe JordaniasTan<br />
da mas konstituciis proeqtis<br />
moxsenebis asli gadasca: „moxsenebaSi<br />
Camoyalibebulia saqarTvelo-abxazeTis<br />
damokidebulebis<br />
punqtebi. moxsenebaSi aRniSnulia<br />
agreTve isic, rom saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis mier Sepirebuli avtonomiuri<br />
marTva-gamgeoba abxazeTSi,<br />
jerjerobiT, faqtiurad<br />
ar yofila ganxorcielebuli.<br />
delegaciam moiTxova, dRes<br />
saswrafo zomebi iqnas centraluri<br />
mTavrobis mier miRebuli abxazeTis<br />
avtonomiur pirobebSi Cayenebis<br />
saqmeSi da saamisod damfuZnebelma<br />
krebam Tavis Semadgenlobidan<br />
gamohyos sagangebo komisia,<br />
romelic detalurad SeimuSavebs<br />
avtonomiis statuss. Jordaniam<br />
delegacias miugo, rom sagangebo<br />
komisiis arCeva zedmetia, maSin,<br />
rodesac arsebobs saerTo sakonstitucio<br />
komisia, romelic abxazeTis<br />
avtonomiis sakiTxsac ganixilavs.<br />
mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem<br />
naadrevad CaTvala agreTve abxaze-<br />
Tis avtonomiis calke ganxilva, manam<br />
sanam ar ganxilula sruliad<br />
saqarTvelos konstitucia”.<br />
interviu sergo<br />
orjonikiZesTan<br />
1920 wlis 2 noembris nomerSi<br />
gazeTi „saqarTvelo” aqveynebs<br />
ruseTis bolSevikuri partiis kavkasiis<br />
biuros xelmZRvanel sergo<br />
orjonikiZis mosazrebas ruseTsa<br />
da saqarTvelos Soris urTierTobis<br />
Sesaxeb. dabeWdili statiis<br />
mixedviT, orjonikiZe irwmuneba,<br />
rom bolSevikuri xelisufleba<br />
saqarTvelosTan keTilmezoblur<br />
urTierTobas eswrafis da yvelafers<br />
akeTebs, raTa or qveyanas<br />
Soris normaluri damokidebuleba<br />
momavalSic gagrZeldes: „ar<br />
aris marTali is xmebi, TiTqos me<br />
moviTxovde saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg<br />
agresiuli politikis warmoebas.<br />
winaaRmdeg, sabWoTa ruseTis<br />
mTavrobis mizania dRes ara omi,<br />
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noemberi<br />
gegeWkori, romelsac im dResve 20<br />
seqtembers ecnoba depeSiT<br />
saqarTvelos respublikis warmomadgenlad<br />
daniSvna erTa ligaSi<br />
da saWiro mandatic gaegzavna.<br />
amasTan erTad, depeSiT da calke<br />
weriliT euwya amis Sesaxeb ligis<br />
sabWos mdivans. yvela saWiro masala<br />
saqarTvelos Sesaxeb Jenevis<br />
krebisaTvis warsadgenad adre gaegzavna<br />
ligis sabWos mdivans baton<br />
n. driumans Tanaxmad misi moTxovnisa”.<br />
germaniis mier saqarTvelos<br />
damoukideblobis cnoba<br />
1920 wlis 6 noembris gazeT<br />
„saqarTveloSi” dabeWdilia mTavrobis<br />
Setyobineba, rom 24 seqtembers<br />
germaniis respublikam oficialurad<br />
(de iure) cno saqarTvelos<br />
damoukidebloba. es sasixarulo<br />
ambavi Cvens xelisuflebas berlinSi<br />
saqarTvelos diplomatiurma<br />
warmomadgenelma, batonma axmetelaSvilma<br />
acnoba. rogorc am informaciidan<br />
irkveva, saqarTveloSi<br />
germaniis elCad germaniis so-<br />
vaweobas. germanelebma iseTi amagi<br />
dasdes qarTvel ers, romelic ar<br />
warixoceba mis gulidan aras dros<br />
da STamomavlobas gardaecema, vi-<br />
Tarca samagaliTo nimuSi patiosnebisa<br />
da uaRresi gulwrfelobisa.<br />
germanelebma pirvelebma faqtiurad<br />
amoxazes Cveni saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
sazRvrebi da samagali-<br />
To aqtivoba gamoiCines mis gafar-<br />
Toebis procesSi saqarTvelos istoriul,<br />
ekonomiur-geografiul<br />
da strategiul interesebis mixedviT.<br />
germaniis sardloba samarTlianad<br />
darwmunebuli iyo, rom saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriuli pretenziebi<br />
arsebiTad minimaluri iyo<br />
da savsebiT emyareboda misTvis<br />
miniWebul uflebriv normebs.<br />
gana qarTvel xalxis mexsierebidan<br />
odesme amoiSleba is faqti,<br />
rom im dros, rodesac saqarTvelos<br />
Sesamusravad mrisxaned moiwevda<br />
germaniis oficialuri mokav-<br />
Sire, misi TanamebrZole brwyinvale<br />
porta, romlis jarebi Cvens<br />
dedaqalaqs emuqreboden, _ germaniis<br />
sardlobam realuri mfarv-<br />
mimarTa. wirvaze imyofeboda<br />
Tbilisis garnizonis nawili. giorgobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT gaimarTa<br />
samxedro aRlumi da jariskacebma<br />
rusTavelis gamzirze samxedro<br />
ministris winaSe ceremonialuri<br />
marSiT gaiares. samxedro ministris<br />
garda aRlums iusticiis ministri<br />
arseniZec eswreboda, romelmac<br />
jariskacebs giorgobis<br />
dResaswauli miuloca da maT sam-<br />
Soblos Tavdacvis saqmeSi warmateba<br />
usurva.<br />
mTavrobis Tavmjdomare noe<br />
Jordanias gankargulebiT, 1920<br />
wlis 11 noembridan saqarTveloSi<br />
SeizRuda avtomobilebiT moZraoba.<br />
rogorc gazeTi „saqarTvelos”<br />
14 noembris nomridan vigebT, es<br />
SezRudva qveyanaSi saTbob-sawvavi<br />
masalis mwvave deficitiT iyo ganpirobebuli.<br />
gamonakliss Seadgendnen<br />
mxolod ucxouri misiis<br />
kuTvnili avtomobilebi.<br />
Tbilisis miliciis ufrosis<br />
gankargulebiT qalaqSi aikrZala<br />
Senobebsa da Robeebze afiSebisa<br />
da gancxadebebis gakvra. gazeT<br />
aramed mSvidobianoba, ara laSqroba,<br />
aramed ekonomiuri mdgomareobis<br />
gaumjebeseba gansakuTrebiT<br />
saqarTvelos mimarT. moskovis<br />
mTavroba, _ romelsac ainteresebs<br />
Savi zRvis zogierTi porti, _ iZulebulia,<br />
yovelgvari uTanxmoeba<br />
Tavidan airidos. saqarTvelos<br />
Cven ZaliT ar vaxvevT Tavze komunistur<br />
weswyobilebas. es sakiTxi<br />
man damoukideblad unda<br />
gadaWras.<br />
sabWoTa mTavrobis wreebSi armiis<br />
Sesaxeb im azris arian, rom<br />
rac SeiZleba male moaxdinon vrangelis<br />
frontis likvidacia da jari<br />
daubrunon nayofier Sromas. es<br />
Sromis laSqari yovelTvis mzad<br />
iqneba, iaraRiT daicvas proletariatis<br />
interesebi”.<br />
rasakvirvelia, orjonikiZe utifrad<br />
cruobda. sinamdvileSi, kavbiuros<br />
xelmZRvanels saqarTvelos<br />
damoukideblobis gagonebac<br />
ar surda da yvelafers akeTebda,<br />
raTa Cvens qveyanaSi sabWoTa xelisufleba<br />
damyarebuliyo. saqarTvelos<br />
okupaciis mcdeloba sergo<br />
orjonikiZes, jer kidev, 1920<br />
wlis maisSi hqonda. azerbaijanis<br />
gasabWoebis Semdeg wiTeli armiis<br />
nawilebma saqarTvelos Seuties,<br />
magram bolSevikebi qarTul armiasTan<br />
sasazRvro brZolaSi damarcxdnen.<br />
garda amisa, garTulebuli<br />
sagareo mdgomareobis gamo,<br />
orjonikiZis iniciativas maSin<br />
moskovma mxari ar dauWira da sergo<br />
iZulebuli gaxda, ukan daexia.<br />
erTa liga da saqarTvelo<br />
1920 wlis 3 noembers gazeTi „saqarTvelo”<br />
erT mniSvnelovan informacias<br />
beWdavs, romelic erTa<br />
ligas exeba. erTa liga dRevandeli<br />
gaeros winamorbedi saer-<br />
TaSoriso organizacia iyo, romelic<br />
pirveli msoflio omis Semdeg<br />
gamarjvebulma saxelmwifoebma Seqmnes.<br />
wesdebis Tanaxmad, ligis wevri<br />
saxelmwifoebi valdebulebas<br />
iRebdnen, erTmaneTs gare agresiis<br />
SemTxvevaSi daxmarebodnen. erTa<br />
ligaSi saqarTvelos gawevrianeba<br />
saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis mier<br />
Cveni qveynis damoukideblobis<br />
srulfasovan cnobasa da sagareo<br />
safrTxeebis Tavidan acilebis<br />
SesaZleblobas iZleoda.<br />
rogorc sagazeTo publikaciidan<br />
irkveva, 1920 wlis 20 seqtembers<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis Tavmjdomarem<br />
erTa ligis samdivnosgan<br />
oficialuri Setyobineba miiRo,<br />
rom 15 noembers JenevaSi ligis<br />
pirveli sxdoma Catardeboda da am<br />
sxdomaze saqarTvelos warmomadgenelsac<br />
iwvevdnen: „...am krebaze<br />
iqneba aRZruli da garCeuli saqarTvelos<br />
respublikis ligis wevrad<br />
miRebis sakiTxi. SesaZloa, swerda<br />
sabWos mdivani, krebam moisurvos<br />
Tqveni sakiTxis Sesaxeb sityvieri<br />
ganmartebis mosmena, amisTvis<br />
saWiroa daniSnoT Tqveni warmomadgeneli.<br />
mTavrobam aseT warmomadgenlad<br />
daniSna am Jamad evropaSi myofi<br />
sagareo saqmeTa ministri e.<br />
cial-demokratiuli partiis cnobili<br />
wevri, udris rauxeri daini-<br />
Sna.<br />
ukve 7 noembers gazeTi „saqar-<br />
Tvelo” am faqts didi statiiT gamoexmaura,<br />
sadac aRniSnulia, rom<br />
germania yovelTvis iyo saqarTvelos<br />
uangaro megobari da swored<br />
germania uwevda daxmarebas Cvens<br />
axalgazrda respublikas damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebis pirvel<br />
dReebSi. amonaridi statiidan:<br />
„qarTveloba ver daiviwyebs im<br />
dros aq myof germanel sardlobisa<br />
da sazogadoT jaris moR-<br />
eloba aRmouCina saqarTvelos da<br />
kategoriuli brZanebiT SeaCera<br />
gaTamamebuli osmaleTi! SeiZleba<br />
gadaWriT iTqvas, rom mxolod germaniis<br />
jarebi faqtiurad icavdnen<br />
im Znel drois saqarTvelos<br />
miwa-wyals! maTi meoxebiT SevZeliT<br />
Segveqmna reguliaruli militaruli<br />
Zala, mogvewyo saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
normebi da gangvemtkicebina<br />
marTva-gamgeobis aparati...”<br />
mokle ambebi<br />
italiis saaviaco qarxanam, romlisganac<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobam<br />
1920 wlis zafxulSi ramdenime haeroplani<br />
Seisyida, Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
piloti antonio levantino da meqanikosi<br />
Zemalini gamoagzavna.<br />
rogorc gazeTi „saqarTvelo” iuwyeba,<br />
italielebi qarTvel pilotebs<br />
uaxlesi safreni aparatis<br />
marTvis SeswavlaSi daexmarebodnen<br />
da maT teqnikur daxmarebas<br />
gauwevdnen.<br />
23 noembers saqarTveloSi giorgoba<br />
aRniSnes. qaSueTis eklesia-<br />
Si saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqma<br />
leonidem sadResaswaulo<br />
wirva Caatara. wirvis Semdeg gadaixades<br />
paraklisi, sadac kaTolikosma<br />
mrevls mxurvale sityviT<br />
„saqarTvelos” 19 noembris nomer-<br />
Si dabeWdil am gankargulebaSi mi-<br />
TiTebulia, rom afiSebisa da sxva<br />
sareklamo masalis ganTavseba mxolod<br />
specialur saafiSo svetebze<br />
iyo nebadarTuli. „ubrZaneT<br />
komisrebs, rom am brZanebis Sesrulebas<br />
sastiki Tvalyuri adevnon<br />
da sadac gakrulia gancxadebebi<br />
dRemde dauyovnebliv moafxekinon<br />
saxlis an sadgomis patronebs da<br />
an maT meezoveebs. sami dRis Semdeg,<br />
dReis ricxvidan, komisrebi<br />
da maTi TanaSemweebi, am brZanebis<br />
SeusrulebaSi SeniSnulni, Cem mier<br />
iqnebian dasjilni”, _ naTqvamia<br />
Tbilisis miliciis ufrosis gancxadebaSi.<br />
1920 wlis 27 noembris gazeT<br />
„saqarTveloSi” gamoqveynebuli<br />
cnoba mkiTxvelebs auwyebs, rom<br />
momavali wlis, anu 1921 wlis 25<br />
noembridan myardeboda satelefono<br />
kavSiri Tbilisi-axmeta-Telavs<br />
Soris. rogorc irkveva, Tavdapirvelad,<br />
moqalaqeebs am xazze<br />
telefoniT saubari dRis mxolod<br />
garkveul periodSi SeeZlebodaT.<br />
miTiTebulia sasaubrod xelmisawvdomi<br />
saaTebic: dilis 9-dan 10<br />
saaTamde; dRis 13-dan 14 saaTamde<br />
da saRamos 17-dan 18 saaTamde.<br />
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toCis<br />
dadebiTi<br />
katikosi<br />
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xandaxan Cvenebursac xom<br />
unda gaumarTlos? levan gorgaZes<br />
oZek takakeisiosTan uwevda<br />
dajaxeba. aqamde Svidjer<br />
iyo nabrZoli 22 wlis goliaT-<br />
Tan da erTaderTxel hqonda<br />
mogebuli. amitomac prognozi<br />
safrTxilo saqme gaxldaT.<br />
takakeisio oTxi saSejibro<br />
dRis Semdeg moixsna turniridan<br />
muxlis travmis gamo, toCinoSinTan<br />
dapirispirebis win ki<br />
dabrunda, magram mwvrTnelis<br />
daJinebuli moTxovniT, isev<br />
moixsna.<br />
mokled, takakeisios kadobanSi<br />
Caayeneben, levan gorgaZem<br />
ki merve mogeba ubrZolvelad<br />
miiTvala. dadebiTi balansi (katikosi)<br />
ukve dafiqsirebulia.<br />
axla oZekis titulia dasabrunebeli,<br />
saamisod ki darCenil 6<br />
brZolaSi ori mogebac eyofa,<br />
magram metic SeiZleba. imperatoris<br />
TasisTvis brZolas sami<br />
lideri hyavs: levani, iokoZuna<br />
kakuriu da maegaSira asanoiama.<br />
morigi metoqe mitakuemua iqneba,<br />
romelsac pirad Sexvedreb-<br />
Si 7:3 ugebs.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, baSos iokoZuna<br />
da erTi oZeki ukve gamoeTiSnen,<br />
kidev or oZekis ki CempionobisTvis<br />
brZolis Teoriuli<br />
SansiRa darCa. konkurenti mxolod<br />
iokoZuna kakuriua da sakmarisi<br />
iyo levans waego, manac<br />
myisve waago.<br />
mokled, levans imperatoris<br />
Tasis mopovebis kargi Sansi<br />
aqvs.<br />
am saqmeSi sakuTari interesi<br />
iaponur mafiasac hqonia – totalizatorebSi<br />
sumos fsonebze<br />
brunva bevrze bevri milionia…<br />
aqve vTqvaT, rom Zurios divizionSi<br />
meeqvse gamarjveba moipova<br />
gagamarud monaTlulma<br />
Teimuraz juRelma.<br />
borkilebi<br />
gasaxdelSi<br />
arbitrma<br />
baraTebi<br />
gaaCuqa<br />
da wavida<br />
ioan runsari safrangeTSi<br />
cnobili arbitria. asakma uwia<br />
musie rusnars, kariera unda da-<br />
esrulebina da es bolo wertili<br />
Zalian lamazad dasva.<br />
safrangeTis meore divizion-<br />
Si paraskevs erTmaneTs „meci” da<br />
„bresti” (1:0) daupirispirdnen.<br />
arbitrma ZiriTad dros xuTi<br />
wuTi daamata, magram sami wuTis<br />
Semdeg daSla-armoSlisa Castvi-<br />
na da gundebs centrSi uxmo.<br />
ioan runsarma jibidan bara-<br />
Tebi amoiRo da TiTo cali saCu-<br />
qrad gadasca metoqeebs, mere ki<br />
specialuri sprei moimarjva da<br />
moedanze uzarmazari asoebiT<br />
„madloba” dawera.<br />
45 wlis msajis karieraSi es<br />
ukanaskneli matCi iyo. sul run-<br />
sarma 600-ze meti matCi mxolod<br />
safrangeTis profesiul ligeb-<br />
Si gansaja.<br />
ratom ar undaT grizmani barselonaSi?<br />
madridis „atletikodan” antuan<br />
grizmanis „barselonaSi” transferis<br />
momxreebs kataloniel gul-<br />
SematkivrebTan, klubis xelmZRvanelobasTan<br />
da moTamaSeebTan<br />
rTuli molaparakebebis daZleva<br />
mouwevT.<br />
grizmani „kamp nouze” SarSanac<br />
unda gadasuliyo, magram man transferi<br />
Tavad CaSala da mere amis<br />
Sesaxeb espaneTSi gavrcelebul<br />
dokumentur filmSi ilaparaka.<br />
frangis damokidebulebam ki didi<br />
klubis banaki gaaRiziana.<br />
axla ki msoflios Cempionma<br />
Tqva, rom zafxulSi is ueWvelad<br />
datovebs „atletikos” da iqve gavrcelda<br />
xma, rom misi gza kvlav kataloniis<br />
dedaqalaqSi midis.<br />
frangulma „ekipma” oTxSabaTs<br />
isic ki dawera, TiTqos fexbur-<br />
Telsa da „blaugranas” Soris ukve<br />
yvelaferi molaparakebulia. misi<br />
TqmiT, mxareebi xuTwlian Tanam-<br />
Sromlobaze SeTanxmdnen, romlis<br />
ganmavlobaSic grizmani daqviTvis<br />
Semdeg weliwadSi 17 milion evros<br />
miiRebs.<br />
Tavis mxriv „barselona” „ekipis”<br />
cnobis dadasturebas ar Cqarobs,<br />
radgan SeTanxmeba jer qaRaldze<br />
ar dawerila da xelmowerebiT<br />
ar ganmtkicebula. anu grizmans<br />
kidev SeuZlia sxva klubSi<br />
gadasvla.<br />
cnobili gaxda, rom es sxva<br />
klubi ar iqneba „pari sen Jermeni”.<br />
parizelebma ganacxades, rom 28<br />
wlis Tavdamsxmeli ar ainteresebT.<br />
grizmanis yidvas „barselonas”<br />
direqtoratSic bevri mowinaaRmdege<br />
hyavs. mizezi: isini SarSandelis<br />
gamo Seuracxyofilad grZnoben<br />
Tavs. amboben, TiTqos frangs<br />
arc „kamp nous” gasaxdelSi miesalmebian.<br />
gazeTma „sportma~ gulSematkivarTa<br />
gamokiTxva moawyo, romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac qomagebis 66% grizmanis<br />
„barsaSi” gadasvlas ar miesalmeba.<br />
„barselonas” yofili prezi-<br />
denti Joan laporta: „gulSematkivarTa<br />
umetesobas ar unda, rom<br />
klubma grizmani iyidos. amis mizezi<br />
sxvasTan erTad misi gazviadebuli<br />
fasicaa. vfiqrob, qveynad arian<br />
kargi fexburTelebi, romlebic<br />
grizmanze aranakleb gaakeTeben imis,<br />
rac TiTqos mxolod mas SeuZlia<br />
gaakeTos „kamp nouze”.<br />
Cawyobili matCebi da mamaZaRloba<br />
qarTul fexburTSi mouSo-<br />
rebel Wirad rCeba. winaswar garigebuli<br />
TamaSebis gamo qarTve-<br />
li fexburTelebi adrec daukav-<br />
ebiaT da axlac igive moxda.<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />
samsaxuris antiko-<br />
rufciulma saagentom, vit-jor-<br />
jias ramdenime fexburTels<br />
borkilebi pirdapir gasaxdelSi<br />
daado. vit-jorjia baTumSi adgilobriv<br />
dinamosTan 0:2 damarcx-<br />
da, veterinarTa erTbaSad xuTi<br />
fexburTeli ki swored matCis<br />
dasrulebis Semdeg, ramdenime<br />
wuTSi daakaves.<br />
dakavebulebi arian: paata Ru-<br />
duSauri, giorgi kiknaveliZe,<br />
giorgi geTiaSvili, joni Sero-<br />
zia da nika maisuraZe.<br />
garigebul matCebSi monawile-<br />
obas gamarTleba aba rogor aqvs<br />
magram rodesac fexburTelebs<br />
ukve Tveebia xelfasebi ar auRi-<br />
aT, Znelia cdunebas gauZlo.<br />
am Temis gagrZelebas Semdeg<br />
nomerSi SemogTavazebT.<br />
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mxiTarians saxlSi toveben<br />
azerbaijanis safexburTo federaciaTa asociaciam<br />
specialuri gancxadeba gaavrcela arsenalel<br />
genrix mxiTarianTan dakavSirebiT:<br />
„jer „arsenali” arc iyo finalSi gasuli,<br />
rom am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT mogvmarTes.<br />
Cvenma saxelisuflebo struqturebma yvela<br />
saWiro gadawyvetileba miiRo da SegviZlia sruli<br />
pasuxismgeblobiT ganvacxadoT, rom genrix<br />
mxiTarianis usafrTxoeba evropis ligis Tasis<br />
finalisas maqsimalurad iqneba uzrunvelyofili”.<br />
mogexsenebaT, mTian yarabaxTan dakavSirebuli<br />
konfliqtis gamo azerbaijanuli kanonmdebloba<br />
eTnikur somxebs qveynis teritoriaze<br />
Sesvlas ukrZalavs. mxiTarianisTvis gamonaklisi<br />
dauSves, Tumca londonis „arsenalis” xelmZRvaneloba<br />
baqoSi mis wayvanas ar apirebs,<br />
isev da isev, usafrTxoebis zomebidan gamomdinare.<br />
SegaxsenebT, rom mimdinare sezonSi mxiTarianma<br />
evropis ligis jgufuri etapis matCi gamotova<br />
azerbaijanul „yarabaxTan”, 2015 wels ki,<br />
„dortmundSi” burTaobisas, „gabalasTan” dapirispirebac<br />
gamotova. usafrTxoebis garantiebi<br />
samivejer gaica, magram amboben, azerbaijanSi<br />
arCasvliT somexi fexburTeli ufro<br />
politikur mizans isaxavs da konfliqtze yuradRebis<br />
miqcevas cdilobs.<br />
ar Castvino, cotac maTamaSe<br />
amsterdamis „aiaqsma” stumrad „graafsxapi” 4:1 gaanadgura<br />
da gaCempionda. reportaJisas kadrSi moxvda wami, roca<br />
amsterdamelTa erT-erTi lideri frenki de iongi arbitr<br />
dani mikelisTan mivida da sTxova: „cota meti dro daamate,<br />
kidev minda viTamaSo. kargi?!”<br />
bavSvuri gulubryvilobiT da sialaliT naTqvamma<br />
frazam mTeli holandia SeZra. frenkis bolojer ecva „aiaqsis”<br />
maisura.<br />
de iongi ukve „barselonas” wevria, 75 milion evrod nayidi<br />
varskvlavis statusiT, jer leo mesis partniorad da<br />
mere mis Semcvlelad rom egulebaT. saxli mainc ar eTmoba<br />
frenkis, arada, „aiaqsi” misi saxlia. am klubma misca yvelaferi,<br />
rac gaaCnia da kidev ramdenime wuTiT undoda maisuris<br />
tareba.<br />
qomagebma emociuri gamoTxoveba mouwyves: „gmadlobT,<br />
frenki. Cven ar vtiriT imis gamo, rom midixar. Cven viRimiT<br />
imis gamo, rom gvyavdi”.<br />
kiriosis<br />
sigiJe<br />
romis saCogburTo mastersze avstralielma nik kiriosma ambebi Caa-<br />
tara, mters da avs... ra qna aseTi kiriosma?<br />
gadamwyvet mesame setSi naklebad cnobil metoqes jer breiki aarTva,<br />
mere ki sakuTari mowodeba waago da Cogani kortze daaxeTqa. mTavarma<br />
msajma, bunebrivia, SeniSvna misca, ramac avstralieli ufro gaa-<br />
cofa da skami moisrola. msajma kortze supervaizeri ixmo da, masTan<br />
SeTanxmebiT, kiriosis turniridan moxsnis gadawyvetileba miiRo.<br />
turniridan moxsna niSnavs, rom kiriosi ukve gamomuSavebul qulebs<br />
da fuls ver miiRebs, 20 000 evros jarimad gadaixdis da romSi sastum-<br />
roSi cxovrebis xarjebsac Tavad dafaravs.<br />
avstraliels ATP ramdenimeTviani diskvalifikaciiTac emuqreba,<br />
radgan emociur kirioss pirobiT-gamosacdeli vada jer kidev Sanxais<br />
mastersidan mosdevs. kolegas TviT rojer federeri gamoeqomaga, _<br />
ukve dakisrebuli sasjelebic eyofa da diskvalifikacia metismeti<br />
iqnebao. Tavad nik kiriosma mokle komentari gaakeTa: „albaT metismetad<br />
emociuri var da msajis usamarTlo gadawyvetilebebze metis-<br />
metad aqtiurad vreagireb. nebismier SemTxvevaSi bodiSsa da madlobas<br />
vuxdi roms. madloba mayureblebs. imedia, kidev SevxvdebiT~.<br />
meomrebi da yvela danarCeni<br />
nebismier amerikels istoriaSi<br />
ucudesi sakalaTburTo gundis<br />
dasaxeleba rom sTxovoT, umal<br />
2004 wlis aTenis olimpiada gaaxsendeba.<br />
varskvlavebiT dakompleqtebulma<br />
„drim Timma” sami matCis<br />
wageba „moaxerxa” da mxolod mesame<br />
adgilze gavida.<br />
alen aiversoni da stefon marberi<br />
erTmaneTs saerTod ar<br />
aZlevdnen burTs...<br />
lebron jeimsi, karmelo entoni<br />
da duein ueidi ubralod Rlabucobdnen...<br />
mwvrTneli lari brauni qomagebTan<br />
bodiSebis moxdas ver audioda...<br />
Turme, jer sad xar?! im gundis<br />
wevrma, lamar odomma, iseTi sensa-<br />
ara da ar gamoCnda gundi, romelic araTu daamarcxebs seriaSi,<br />
Rirseulad mainc rom eomeba „golden steits~. . xan vin dauTqves<br />
tolsworad da xan _ vin, magram yvelas erTi bedi ewia.<br />
dasavleTis konferenciis finalSi „meomrebma” maspinZeli<br />
„portlendi” 110:99 daamarcxes da seriaSi 3:0 dawinaurdnen. didi<br />
Sesvenebisas maspinZlebi liderobdnen, magram meore naxevarSi<br />
„golden steitma” superkalaTburTi iTamaSa da drois es monakve-<br />
Ti 24 quliT moigo.<br />
namdvilad ver gagaocebT, Tu vityviT, rom gamarjvebulTa Soris<br />
saukeTeso stef kari iyo 36 quliT. mis monagars grinma sammagi<br />
dubli (20+13+12) daumata da gamarjvebac gamocxva.<br />
naTxovari Sardi da<br />
olimpiuri katastrofa<br />
cia daaxeTqa, egeb amerikelebs is<br />
brinjaoc CamoarTvan.<br />
odomis TqmiT, olimpiadamde<br />
lamis yoveldRe marixuanas eweoda<br />
da roca uTxres, doping-testi<br />
unda Caabaroo, mixvda, rom olimpiadis<br />
miRma rCeboda. man da misma<br />
mwvrTnelma gegma dasaxes: iyides<br />
silikonis penisi da misi sicariele<br />
mwvrTnelis SardiT Seavses.<br />
mere, roca doping-oficeri zurgsukan<br />
or metrSi edga, odomma Cumad<br />
gamoaZro silikonis organo da<br />
„testi” Caabara. ver getyviT, kav-<br />
SirSia Tu ara odomis „fokusTan”,<br />
magram axali regulaciebiT sportsmenma<br />
testis Cabarebisas Sarvali<br />
muxlebamde mainc unda Caixados<br />
da zedatanic aucileblad<br />
moklesaxeloebiani unda ecvas.<br />
turinis iuves didi xniT vin daaoblebs?<br />
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„iuventusi” vinme xurda gundi ar<br />
aris, rom misi mTavari mwvrTnelis<br />
sakiTxi Tundac erTi kviriT gamoekidos<br />
haerSi. klubma paraskevs gamoacxada<br />
masimeliano alegrisTan Tanam-<br />
Sromlobis gawyvetis Sesaxeb da imave<br />
saRamos italiurma totalizatorebma<br />
axali mTavari mwvrTnelis vinaobis<br />
gamocnobaze fsonebis miReba daiwyes.<br />
antonio konte _ 2,5<br />
fanebis favoritia, dRemde uyvarT<br />
turinSi da, Tavis mxriv, elodeba topklubSi<br />
boZebul Sanss. jerjerobiT<br />
favoritia.<br />
mauricio poCetino _ 4,5<br />
aranormaluri „totnhemis” Semqmneli,<br />
romelmac icis, rogor aaSenos<br />
gundi erTi evros dauxarjavad. andrea<br />
anieli sulac araa winaaRmdegi,<br />
Tuki argentineli dasturs ityvis.<br />
mauricio sari _ 6,5<br />
kontes Semdeg jidev erTi kandidati,<br />
vinc „Celsi” gamoiara. argumentebi<br />
naklebia da am siaSi klubidan<br />
gamoJonili informaciiT moxvda.<br />
Joze mourinio _ 8,0<br />
kidev erTi Celseli mTlad favoriti<br />
ar aris, magram Tuki evropaSi<br />
grandi umwvrTnelod rCeba, seu Jozes<br />
aucileblad axseneben.<br />
aris kidev erTi faruli favoriti,<br />
romelsac anieli daufiqreblad gauformebda<br />
kontraqts _ didie deSami<br />
Tavisi turinuli warsuliT absoluturad<br />
misaRebi figuraa, magram safrangeTis<br />
nakrebs, albaT, ver Seeleva.<br />
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fulismaZieblebi<br />
kavea galeria<br />
15:00; 20:15<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
12:30; 15:00; 17:15; 22:15<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
14:45; 17:15; 21:45<br />
ori nabijiT Sors<br />
amirani<br />
12:15; 14:45<br />
kavea galeria<br />
12:30; 17:30; 22:15<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
12:00; 14:30; 19:45<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
12:00; 14:00; 19:30<br />
1 aSS dolari<br />
2.7470<br />
1 evro<br />
3.0643<br />
1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />
3.4997<br />
1 Sveicaruli franki<br />
2.7203<br />
100 rusuli rubli<br />
4.2559<br />
amindi<br />
samSabaTi<br />
oTxSabaTi<br />
xuTSabaTi<br />
paraskevi<br />
SabaTi<br />
kvira<br />
orSabaTi<br />
Tbilisi<br />
20-26 0<br />
19-28 0<br />
24-26 0<br />
22-29 0<br />
23-29 0<br />
22-28 0<br />
23-25 0<br />
quTaisi<br />
27-30 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
21-27 0<br />
27-30 0<br />
24-27 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
26-28 0<br />
baTumi<br />
24-25 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
26-29 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
zugdidi<br />
28-30 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
25-27 0<br />
28-31 0<br />
23-26 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
25-27 0<br />
gori<br />
20-22 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
20-23 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
18-20 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
Telavi<br />
21-23 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
25-28 0<br />
26-30 0<br />
27-30 0<br />
26-28 0<br />
25-26 0<br />
foTi<br />
25-27 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
25-28 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
21-23 0<br />
22-23 0<br />
40<br />
saredaqcio kolegia<br />
yvela ufleba daculia;<br />
`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli<br />
masalebis nebismieri saxiT<br />
gamoyeneba da gavrceleba<br />
redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad<br />
akrZalulia!<br />
gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul<br />
masalebs aqvT sareklamo<br />
xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia<br />
SeiZleba ar daemTxves<br />
redaqciis Sexedulebas.<br />
mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12)<br />
rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />
SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50<br />
mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55<br />
injgia nene 591 71 39 98<br />
sakaruli giorgi 555 42 42 90<br />
qemokliZe levan 593 16 01 40<br />
vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89<br />
laRaZe Sorena 557 56 23 66<br />
deviZe daviT<br />
stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />
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Tbilisi, gudauris N3,<br />
pirveli sarTuli, bina 4;<br />
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gavrcelebis samsaxuri<br />
Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10<br />
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