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organizaciis warmomadgenlebTan<br />

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saxeebi Zalian bevr cud ramesTan asocirdeba<br />

da imedi maqvs, 2020 wels parlamentSi<br />

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romelsac marTla surs qveynis sakeTildReod<br />

ramis gakeTeba. aseT SemTxvevaSi<br />

aucileblad vigrZnobT gansxvavebas arsebul<br />

parlamentsa da im parlaments Soris,<br />

sadac Tavisuflad da progresulad moazrovne<br />

axalgazrdebi iqnebian.<br />

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