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<strong>BINULI</strong> # # # # # 111<br />
11<br />
saredaqcio saredaqcio saredaqcio saredaqcio saredaqcio kolegia:<br />
kolegia:<br />
kolegia:<br />
kolegia:<br />
kolegia:<br />
sofo sofo sofo sofo sofo asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe, nino nino nino nino nino afciauri, afciauri, afciauri, afciauri, afciauri, dodo dodo dodo dodo dodo alieva, alieva, alieva, alieva, alieva, lika lika lika lika lika amiraSvili, amiraSvili, amiraSvili, amiraSvili, amiraSvili, mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam burduli, burduli, burduli, burduli, burduli,<br />
salome salome salome salome salome gelaSvili, gelaSvili, gelaSvili, gelaSvili, gelaSvili, qeTevan qeTevan qeTevan qeTevan qeTevan ebitaSvili, ebitaSvili, ebitaSvili, ebitaSvili, ebitaSvili, lia lia lia lia lia zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, nino nino nino nino nino zviadauri, zviadauri, zviadauri, zviadauri, zviadauri, Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna<br />
TvaraZe, TvaraZe, TvaraZe, TvaraZe, TvaraZe, mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam Todua, Todua, Todua, Todua, Todua, Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar ianvaraSvili, ianvaraSvili, ianvaraSvili, ianvaraSvili, ianvaraSvili, giorgi giorgi giorgi giorgi giorgi iaSvili, iaSvili, iaSvili, iaSvili, iaSvili, Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar kedia, kedia, kedia, kedia, kedia, mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam<br />
lorTqifaniZe, lorTqifaniZe, lorTqifaniZe, lorTqifaniZe, lorTqifaniZe, guranda guranda guranda guranda guranda megreliZe, megreliZe, megreliZe, megreliZe, megreliZe, daviT daviT daviT daviT daviT meliva, meliva, meliva, meliva, meliva, Tiniko Tiniko Tiniko Tiniko Tiniko mindiaSvili, mindiaSvili, mindiaSvili, mindiaSvili, mindiaSvili, londa londa londa londa londa<br />
sabaniZe, sabaniZe, sabaniZe, sabaniZe, sabaniZe, ana ana ana ana ana samadaSvili, samadaSvili, samadaSvili, samadaSvili, samadaSvili, zviad zviad zviad zviad zviad qadaria, qadaria, qadaria, qadaria, qadaria, nino nino nino nino nino qeTelauri, qeTelauri, qeTelauri, qeTelauri, qeTelauri, nino nino nino nino nino qoiava, qoiava, qoiava, qoiava, qoiava, salome salome salome salome salome<br />
CavleiSvili, CavleiSvili, CavleiSvili, CavleiSvili, CavleiSvili, qristina qristina qristina qristina qristina CoCia, CoCia, CoCia, CoCia, CoCia, nodar nodar nodar nodar nodar CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe, nino nino nino nino nino cankaSvili, cankaSvili, cankaSvili, cankaSvili, cankaSvili, mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam cxovrebaSvili,<br />
cxovrebaSvili,<br />
cxovrebaSvili,<br />
cxovrebaSvili,<br />
cxovrebaSvili,<br />
mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam javaxiSvili, javaxiSvili, javaxiSvili, javaxiSvili, javaxiSvili, Taliko Taliko Taliko Taliko Taliko xaxubia, xaxubia, xaxubia, xaxubia, xaxubia, raisa raisa raisa raisa raisa (marika) (marika) (marika) (marika) (marika) xoWava, xoWava, xoWava, xoWava, xoWava, eTer eTer eTer eTer eTer WyoiZe. WyoiZe. WyoiZe. WyoiZe. WyoiZe.<br />
pedagog-konsultantebi: Tamar SaiSmelaSvili, diana tyebuCava, goCa xundaZe.<br />
1<br />
mTavari mTavari mTavari mTavari mTavari redaqtori<br />
redaqtori<br />
redaqtori<br />
redaqtori<br />
redaqtori<br />
lizi lizi lizi lizi lizi metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli
33333. wm. wm. wm. ilia ilia marTali:<br />
marTali:<br />
.kargad .kargad wakiTxva wakiTxva wasakiTxisa<br />
wasakiTxisa<br />
55555. maxaTas mTaze yovladwminda<br />
RvTismSoblis saxlobis taZari<br />
Sendeba...<br />
profesionali<br />
profesionali<br />
profesionali<br />
profesionali<br />
profesionali<br />
6. 6. 6. 6. 6. Serlok holmsidan<br />
strasburgamde...<br />
10. 10. 10. 10. 10. muxran-batonis `Sato-muxrani~<br />
_ parizis saocreba<br />
samecniero samecniero samecniero samecniero samecniero konferencia<br />
konferencia<br />
konferencia<br />
konferencia<br />
konferencia<br />
11. 11. 11. 11. 11. kavkasiis kavkasiis kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
saerTaSoriso<br />
stumrad stumrad stumrad grigol grigol robaqiZis<br />
robaqiZis<br />
universitetSi...<br />
universitetSi...<br />
universitetSi...<br />
saganZuri<br />
saganZuri<br />
saganZuri<br />
saganZuri<br />
saganZuri<br />
13. 13. 13. 13. 13. `erisionma~ mesame saukuneSi<br />
Seabija<br />
Tanamedrove<br />
Tanamedrove<br />
Jurnalistika<br />
Jurnalistika<br />
15. 15 15 15 15 `media TviTonaa orientirebuli<br />
mogebaze da cdilobs im produqciis<br />
gamoSvebas, romelic gasaRdeba...~<br />
sarCevi<br />
sarCevi<br />
16. 16. 16. 16. 16. gadavarCinoT<br />
memorialuri Zegli<br />
TavSesafari<br />
TavSesafari<br />
TavSesafari<br />
TavSesafari<br />
TavSesafari<br />
17. 17. 17. 17. 17. ar daiviwyoT, rom Cvenc<br />
davberdebiT!<br />
axali axali axali axali axali proeqti<br />
proeqti<br />
proeqti<br />
proeqti<br />
proeqti<br />
20. 20. 20. 20. 20. bavSvebi, romlebic aRar<br />
ocneboben!<br />
Cveni<br />
Cveni<br />
SemoqmedebiTi<br />
SemoqmedebiTi<br />
saxelosno<br />
saxelosno<br />
21. 21. 21. 21. 21. avtoportreti uniRbod<br />
22. 22. 22. 22. 22. nugzar jiqia: ar SemiZlia<br />
tyuils davemono...<br />
23. 23. 23. 23. 23. eris sulieri energiis<br />
pulsacia<br />
24. 24. 24. 24. 24. silamaze, silamaze, romelmac<br />
romelmac<br />
planetis planetis xuTive xuTive kontinenti<br />
kontinenti<br />
dai dai pyro...<br />
pyro...<br />
25. 25. 25. 25. 25. werili Llukas<br />
saswavlo-SemecnebiTi<br />
saswavlo-SemecnebiTi<br />
saswavlo-SemecnebiTi<br />
turi<br />
turi<br />
26. 26. 26. 26. 26. erTxel, aWaraSi...<br />
28. 28. 28. 28. 28. `indoeTSi Casvlaze<br />
vocnebob...~<br />
29. 29. 29. 29. 29. werili Tbilisi live-s<br />
2<br />
31. 31. 31. 31. 31. dedaena dedaena _ xalxis aRiarebidan<br />
samarTlebriv sivrcemde<br />
32. 32. 32. 32. 32. axali axali wignebi<br />
wignebi<br />
33. 33. 33. 33. 33. Tamaz Caduneli: `axalgazrdebs<br />
vurCev, literatura ikiTxon...~<br />
reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
34. 34. 34. 34. 34. `quTaiso Cemo~ anu rogor<br />
movxvdi imereTSi...<br />
36. 36. 36. 36. 36. jemal soloRaSvili:<br />
`leqtorma studenti<br />
maqsimalurad unda gamoiwvios...~<br />
38. 38. 38. 38. 38. dedamiwas dedamiwas siyvaruli<br />
siyvaruli<br />
siyvaruli<br />
atrialebs.<br />
atrialebs...<br />
atrialebs.<br />
40. 40. 40. 40. 40. lia xorbalaZis `sicocxlis<br />
dRiuri~<br />
42. 42. 42. 42. 42. msoflio alafi<br />
43. 43. 43. 43. 43. vano javaxiSvili: `Cemi<br />
sayvareli respodenti kaxi<br />
kavsaZea...~<br />
45. 45. 45. 45. 45. `SeinanieT, rameTu moaxloebul<br />
ars sasufveli caTai...~<br />
47. 47. 47. 47. 47. aTasi aTasi ymisa ymisa da da aTasi<br />
aTasi<br />
vefxis vefxis vefxis mSoblebi mSoblebi<br />
mSoblebi
publicisturi publicisturi klasika<br />
klasika<br />
kargad kargad wakiTxva wakiTxva wasakiTxisa<br />
wasakiTxisa<br />
warmogidgenT didi qarTveli moazrovnis, publicistisa da<br />
saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli eklesiis mier wmindanad Seracxuli<br />
ilia WavWavaZis (wminda ilia marTalis) saintereso narkvevs, romelic<br />
daibeWda gazeT `iveriaSi~ 1890 wels (gaz. ”iveria”, 1890 w., 18 II, 37, gv. 1-<br />
2.). miuxedavad mas Semdeg gasuli sakmarisad didi droisa, dResac<br />
metad aqtualuria.<br />
Zlieria TavisTavadac sityva. xolo rac<br />
gind zedmiwevnili iyos, rac gind<br />
zedgamoWrili, rac gind moswrebuli, sityva<br />
bunebiTad mainc uZluria mTeli ”mzian-<br />
Crdilianoba” grZnobisa gamosTqvas<br />
umetnaklebod. sityvas, mTelis xelovnebis<br />
meoxebiT morTulsa da gawyobils, mainc bevri<br />
imisTana hrCeba gamouTqmelad, rac mTqmelis<br />
gulSi hbgers da sZgers da raSic sakuTriv<br />
aris Zal-Rone, mTelis ase Tu ise gamosaTqmel<br />
grZnobisa. sityva, ena kacisa uRonoa yovelive<br />
es aRmobeWdos iqamde zedmiwevniT, rom<br />
msmenelma igrZnos mTeli savseoba gulis<br />
Zgerisa. marto Sewyobils, Seferebuls xmas<br />
adamianisas anu, uked vsTqvaT, wakiTxvas<br />
SeuZlian gauwios sityvas igi samsaxuri,<br />
rom saidumlo gamoTqmuli bgera, bgera da<br />
moZraoba gulisa gamometyveldes da<br />
mTqmelisagan msmenels gadaeces savsed da<br />
unaklulod. aq xma sityvas hSvelis da sityva<br />
didi ram aris, vinc icis kargad wakiTxva<br />
wasakiTxisa. erTi friad sasiamovno da friad<br />
sasargeblo xelovneba eg kargad wakiTxvaa<br />
da visac am xelovnebis unari aqvs, SeuZlian<br />
sTqvas, rom mec mommadlebia madli<br />
RvTisaganao, arc me davviwyebivar Cems<br />
dambadebelsao.<br />
kargad wakiTxuli sityva erTi aTad<br />
aZlierebs azrsac, grZnobasac, radganac<br />
erTsaca da meoresac metismetad amSvenierebs<br />
da amkobs, acxovelebs da aferadebs. amis<br />
gamo xelovnuri, kargi wakiTxva ara marto<br />
sasurvelia, sasargebloc aris, nametnavad<br />
iq, saca wasakiTxs saqme grZnobasTan aqvs,<br />
saca sityvam gulamde unda miaRwios mTelis<br />
savseobiT, mTelis Tavis siRrme-siganiT,<br />
mTelis Tavis mxurvalebiT, rom guli misZrasmosZras,<br />
Cveulebriv Tvlemisagan<br />
gamoafxizlos da frTa Seasxas an nelisa da<br />
wynaris aRtacebisa da sasoebisaTvis, anu<br />
risxvisa da wyromis qartexisa da WeqaquxilisaTvis.<br />
3<br />
xmasa. moWarbebuli ar mogviva vsTqvaT, rom<br />
aq cotad Tu bevrad sityviereba hmusikobs<br />
da musika hsityvierobs. swored musika da<br />
sityviereba aq xelixel CarTulni arian<br />
sayvarel da-ZmasaviT, rom erTmaneTis<br />
SemweobiT, erTiani grZnoba aRmoSobon mTelis<br />
zedmiwevnilobiT da Zal-RoniT. tyuilad ki<br />
ara sTqva saxelovanma lessingma, rom poezia<br />
enametyveli musikaa da musika utyvi poeziaao.<br />
aq rom sityva ”poezia” ”sityvierebad”<br />
SevcvaloT, didi Secdoma ar mogviva, imitom<br />
rom xma-Sewyobili gamoTqma sityvisa, Tunda<br />
ubralo laparakSi, Tu mTlad musika ar aris,<br />
misi erTi dargia mainc, radganac mis kanons<br />
cotad Tu bevrad eqvemdebareba. asea Tu ise,<br />
veravin ver ityvis, rom kargad wakiTxva<br />
wasakiTxisa bevrs ar hmatebdes wakiTxulsa<br />
da bevrrigad sasurveli ar iyos yvelgan<br />
saerTod da iq calke, saca grZnoba grZnobas<br />
elaparakeba, rom guli aRiZras nelisa da<br />
wynaris aRtacebisa da sasoebisaTvis, rogorc<br />
zemoda vsTqviT.
wmindao wmindao ilia ilia marTalo,<br />
marTalo,<br />
evedre evedre RmerTsa RmerTsa CvenTvis<br />
CvenTvis<br />
es amisTana adgili ekklesiaa, romlis zari<br />
miiwvevs xolme xalxs locvisaTvis da<br />
wasakiTxi kidev samRvTo werilia, romlis<br />
maRalmetyvelebam unda ganmsWvalos mTeli<br />
krebuli mlocvelTa erTianis sasoebiTa da<br />
RvTis mimarT aRmafreniT. CvenTa winaparTa<br />
kargad esmodaT, ra didi zedmoqmedeba aqvs<br />
kargad wakiTxuls samRvTo werils<br />
ekklesiaSi, saca dideba da saxeli RvTisa<br />
Sehkrebs xolme RvTis mosavs xalxsa saerTo<br />
locvisa da vedrebisaTvis. kargad esmodaT<br />
da Zviradac afasebdnen kargad mkiTxvels<br />
mRvdels, mTavars Tu diakvansa. Cven zogierTi<br />
imisTana magaliTebic viciT, rom ymobidamac<br />
ki ganuTavisuflebiaT kaci marto imisTvis,<br />
rom kargi kiTxva scodnia samRvTo werilisa.<br />
bevrs, ukve gansvenebuls moZRvars, dResac<br />
pativiscemiT ixseniebs qarTveloba kargis<br />
kiTxvisaTvis. mama tarasis, daniel<br />
zuriaSvils da bevrs sxvas dResac bevrni<br />
hnatruloben da qebiTa da pativiscemiT<br />
ixsenieben. Cveni uwindeli samRvdeloebac<br />
imis cdaSi iyo, rom kargad gawurTvnil<br />
yofiliyo kiTxvaSi. maT kargad icodnen, rom<br />
roca vloculobT, RvTis mimarT xelT<br />
aRpyroba, sarwmunoebrivi aRtaceba, guliTadi<br />
sasoeba, gulis Zvra maRlisa da sikeTisaTvis<br />
bevrad damokidebulia samRvTo werilis<br />
kargad wakiTxvazed. maT kargad icodnen, rom<br />
ekklesia saxlia RvTisa, saca xalxi Tavs<br />
iyris, rom mRvdelmsaxurTa winamZRvrobiT<br />
erTad ilocon, erTad evedron, erTad igemon<br />
is wynari da ucodveli sitkboeba, romelsac<br />
gaRviZebuli grZnoba sarwmunoebisa mouvlens<br />
4<br />
xolme RvTismosavs adamians. ai ra miizidavda,<br />
ra miiwvevda xolme CvenSi mlocvels wirvalocvazed<br />
uwindel droSi. ieso qristem<br />
brZana, saca ori da sami SeikribebiT saxeliTa<br />
CemiTa, mec TqvenTana varo da ekklesiam,<br />
wirvaa Tu locva, unda gvagrZnobinos CvenTan<br />
yofna qristesi, roca erTad Tavmoyrili<br />
varT ekklesiaSi. amas marto kargad da<br />
sasoebiT gamoTqmul locviT, kargad da<br />
sasoebiT wakiTxul samRvTo weriliT<br />
gvagrZnobinebs xolme igi wminda sakrebulo,<br />
romelsac saxli RvTisa hqvian. ai mizezi,<br />
rom didi da patara uwindel droSi<br />
miiswrafeboda ekklesiaSi salocavad, roca<br />
wirvisa Tu locvis zari samreklodam<br />
gaixmaurebda. Cvenda samwuxarod, dRes<br />
qarTulad kargi mkiTxveli samRvTo werilisa<br />
iSviaTia da Znelad moipoveba Cvens<br />
samRvdeloebaSi. dRes aRaravis ar miaCnia<br />
sasiqadulod kargad kiTxva ekklesiaSi da<br />
es arcodna kiTxvisa miT ufro unda<br />
emZimebodes samRvdeloebas, miT ufro<br />
Sesawuxebeli unda iyos, rom, Tu sul ara,<br />
bevrSi mainc amazea damokidebuli<br />
metnakleboba sarwmunoebrivis grZnobisa,<br />
romelsac eklesia dReyovel unda aRviZebdes<br />
da aZlierebdes. amisaTvis samRvdeloebas<br />
xelTa aqvs is didebuli, mSvenieri<br />
sityviereba qarTulis samRvTo werilisa,<br />
qarTulis locvebisa, romlis Zala, romlis<br />
zedmoqmedeba guls Tavis budeSi sasoebiT<br />
SesZravs xolme, roca kargad wakiTxulia,<br />
kargad gamoTqmulia. Cven karga xania ar<br />
gagvigonia Cvenis samRvdeloebisagan kargad<br />
Tqmuli locva an kargad wakiTxuli samRvTo<br />
werili ekklesiaSi. arc arsaidam ismisRa<br />
xma, rom amisTanani dRes iyvnen sadme.<br />
samwuxaroa es ambavi da miT ufro madlobiT<br />
saxsenebelia mTavardiakvani kargareTeli,<br />
romelmac d. baqraZis dasaflavebis dRes<br />
waikiTxa wminda saxareba; man dagvanaxva, rom<br />
jer kidev, RvTis madliT, qarTvelebi, ar<br />
gamovklebivarT mSveniers kiTxvas, rom CvenSi<br />
arian kidev imisTana RvTismsaxurni, romelTac<br />
mimadlebuli aqvT niWi da codna, didebuli<br />
metyveleba samRvTo werilisa msmenelTa<br />
gulSi umetnaklebod aRbeWdon da RvTis mier<br />
aRTqmuli nugeSinis cema da sasoeba xsnisa<br />
unugeSos da usasoos RvTismosavs mihmadlon.<br />
mTavardiakvanma kargareTelma Tavis sasaxelod<br />
es SesZlo da es, viT iSviaTi ambavi, meti<br />
ar aris, rom Cven Cvens matianeSi SevitaneT<br />
Cvenis samRvdeloebis samagaliTod da<br />
sayuradRebod.<br />
1890 1890 1890 w., w., 17 17 Tebervali<br />
Tebervali
kurTxeva<br />
kurTxeva<br />
maxaTas maxaTas mTaze<br />
mTaze<br />
yovladwminda yovladwminda RvTismSoblis RvTismSoblis saxelobis saxelobis taZari taZari Sendeba<br />
Sendeba<br />
12 maiss wminda andria<br />
pirvelwodebulis xsenebis dRes,<br />
maxaTas mTaze yovladwmida<br />
RvTismSoblis xatis saxelobis<br />
taZris saZirkveli ekurTxa.<br />
mSeneblobaSi yvela qarTveli<br />
monawileobda. es aris<br />
mniSvnelovani movlena Cveni qveynis<br />
istoriaSi. maxaTas mTaze aTasobiT<br />
adamiani mosuliyo, raTa<br />
istoriuli dRis monawile<br />
gamxdariyo, maT Soris _<br />
politikosebi, sazogadoebisaTvis<br />
cnobili adamianebi, momReralTa da<br />
mgalob-elTa gundebi, fond „iavnanas”<br />
warmomadgeneli da msoflio bani paata<br />
burWulaZe.<br />
sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikospatriarqma,<br />
mcxeTa-Tbilisis mTavarepiskoposma,<br />
biWvinTisa da cxum-afxazeTis<br />
mitropolitma ilia meorem brZana,<br />
sruliad sruliad saqarTvelos saqarTvelos locvis locvis meSveobiT<br />
meSveobiT<br />
am am adgilas adgilas aSendeba aSendeba savane, savane, savane, aq aq mova<br />
mova<br />
yvela yvela msurveli, msurveli, SesTxovs SesTxovs deda deda RvTisas<br />
RvTisas<br />
Semweobas Semweobas Semweobas da da aucileblad aucileblad aucileblad ausruldeba<br />
ausruldeba<br />
mas.<br />
mas.<br />
patriarqis TqmiT, qarTveli adamiani mudam<br />
cdilobda moepovebina sulieri siyvaruli,<br />
da ara _ materialuri qoneba, da dRes Cven<br />
ufali gvCuqnis am wminda taZars, sadac aRevlineba<br />
locvebi ara mxolod qarTvelTaTvis,<br />
aramed _ sruliad msofliosTvis.<br />
uwmindesis Semdeg maxaTas mTaze Sekrebil<br />
mrevls msoflio patriarqis warmomadgenelma,<br />
arqiepiskoposma irineosma mimarTa:<br />
„madlobas movaxseneb RmerTs am liturgiaSi<br />
TanamonawileobisTvis. dRevandelma wirvam<br />
da am wuTebma marTlmadideblobisa da Cveni<br />
eklesiebis erTianoba damanaxa,~ _ brZana<br />
arqiepiskoposma irineosma.<br />
gTavazobT saubars axalgazrduli moZraoba<br />
`daviTiannis~ erT-erT warmomadgenelTan<br />
amiran amiran amiran cxomariZesTan<br />
cxomariZesTan.<br />
cxomariZesTan<br />
_ _ ras ras ras ukavSirdeba ukavSirdeba dRevandeli dRevandeli Tqveni<br />
Tqveni<br />
msvleloba?<br />
msvleloba?<br />
_ dRes yovladwminda RvTismSoblis<br />
saxelobis taZris saZirkveli ekurTxa,<br />
swored Mamas ukavSirdeba Cveni msvlelobac.<br />
msvleloba samebidan maxaTas mTaze<br />
5<br />
uwmindesis locva-kurTxeviT tardeba. mas<br />
`daviTianni~ udgas saTaveSi.<br />
_ _ _ Tqveni Tqveni moZraoba moZraoba axalgazrdulia<br />
axalgazrdulia<br />
da, da, rogorc rogorc viciT, viciT, studentebi studentebi arian<br />
arian<br />
CarTuli, CarTuli, CarTuli, Tumca Tumca Tumca skolebic skolebic erTian-debian.<br />
erTian-debian.<br />
uamrav uamrav keTil keTil saqmes saqmes saqmes akeTebT, akeTebT, akeTebT, iqneba iqneba iqneba es<br />
es<br />
antinarkotikuli antinarkotikuli moZraoba moZraoba Tu Tu `aiv<br />
`aiv<br />
prevenciis prevenciis proeqti,~ proeqti,~ 100 100 aTasi aTasi aTasi mowamis<br />
mowamis<br />
xsenebis xsenebis dRis dRis aRniSvna, aRniSvna, Tanamed-rove<br />
Tanamed-rove<br />
musikis musikis festivali...<br />
festivali...<br />
_ `daviTiannTan~ skolis mowafeebi megobroben,<br />
magram umeteswilad masSi studentebi<br />
erTiandebian. ufro xSirad vatarebT kulturul<br />
da sportul RonisZiebebs, jansaRi<br />
cxovrebis popularizacia mTavari mizania<br />
da, ra Tqma unda, am yvelafers sapatriarqo<br />
afinansebs.<br />
_ _ uaxloes uaxloes momavalSi momavalSi ras ras gegmavT?<br />
gegmavT?<br />
_ vapirebT literaturuli konkursis Catarebas,<br />
romelSic yvela msurvels SeeZleba<br />
monawileobis miReba.<br />
...Zalian bevri xalxi iyo Tavmoyrili samebis<br />
ezoSi, movismineT monawileTa<br />
STabeWdilebebi, aRmoCnda, rom yvela Zalian<br />
gaxarebuli iyo am movleniT. gviTxres, rom<br />
am dResTan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos bankSi<br />
mcireoden Tanxas gadaricxaven.<br />
Cvenma jgufmac gadawyvita mcireodeni<br />
wvlilis Setana am mniSvnelovan movlenaSi<br />
da TiToeulma Cvenganma saqarTvelos bankis<br />
angariSze TiTo lari Caricxa.<br />
qeTi qeTi ebitaSvili,<br />
ebitaSvili,<br />
marika marika marika xoWava,<br />
xoWava,<br />
nino nino cankaSvili<br />
cankaSvili
profesionali<br />
profesionali<br />
Serlok Serlok holmsidan holmsidan strasburgamde...<br />
strasburgamde...<br />
Zalian Zalian mniSvnelovani mniSvnelovani detalia: detalia: detalia: batoni batoni mindia mindia sakuTar<br />
sakuTar<br />
profesiul profesiul warmatebebs warmatebebs didwilad didwilad profesor profesor TinaTin<br />
TinaTin<br />
wereTels wereTels umadlis, umadlis, umadlis, romelmac romelmac mesamekursel mesamekursel students<br />
students<br />
Serlok Serlok Serlok holmsobaze holmsobaze ocneba ocneba iuridiuli iuridiuli mecnierebiT<br />
mecnierebiT<br />
seriozul seriozul dainteresebad dainteresebad dainteresebad uqcia.<br />
uqcia.<br />
_ batono batono mindia, mindia, ra ra iyo iyo impulsi, impulsi, Tqven Tqven mier mier iuristis iuristis<br />
iuristis<br />
profesiis profesiis arCevisa?<br />
arCevisa?<br />
_ roca iuridiul fakultetze Cabareba gadavwyvite, maSin<br />
Zalian bavSvuri gataceba mqonda- mindoda, Serlok holmsis<br />
msgavsi gmirobebi Camedina, magram iuridiul fakultetze,<br />
sadac me uamrav saintereso adamians Sevxvdi, Cemi gegmebi<br />
absoluturad daimsxvra - daaxloebiT mesame kursze viqnebodi,<br />
leqciis wasakiTxad Semovida qalbatoni TinaTin wereTeli,<br />
romelic Tavisi drois msoflioSi aRiarebuli specialisti<br />
iyo. misma leqciebma tvini gadamibruna...<br />
imis nacvlad, rom Zveleburad gamomZieblobaze meocneba, -<br />
iuridiuli mecnierebiT davinteresdi. qalbatonma TinaTinma<br />
gaxsna farda da maCvena sul sxva samyaro, sadac urTulesi<br />
iuridiuli konstruqciebi, araCveulebrivi esTetiuri formiT<br />
iyo gadmocemuli... imdenad lamazi da warmtaci iyo, ver gaveqeci<br />
am xibls da dRemde miyvars.<br />
_ _ 80-ian 80-ian wlebSi wlebSi Tqven Tqven erT-erTi erT-erTi pirveli pirveli pirveli mTavari<br />
mTavari<br />
gazeTis gazeTis redaqtorad redaqtorad dagniSnes. dagniSnes. gviTxariT, gviTxariT, rogor rogor moirgeT<br />
moirgeT<br />
mindia mindia mindia ugrexeliZe<br />
ugrexeliZe<br />
es es TqvenTvis TqvenTvis uCveulo uCveulo amplua?<br />
amplua?<br />
_ rogorc ki fexi Sevdgi gamomcemlobis SenobaSi, udidesi<br />
miwisZvra moxda qalaq spitakSi, romelic cotaTi saqarTvelosac „gamoexmaura.” amis gamo xumrobdnen<br />
kidec - kaci movida aseTi didi gazeTis redaqtoris pirvel moadgiled da es ambavi kataklizmebs<br />
daukavSirdao...<br />
es TanamSromloba garkveuli xnis ganmavlobaSi gagrZelda, magram Zalian dinamiuri, araformaluri<br />
viTareba iyo. im droisTvis ukve aSkara gaxda, rom es gazeTi erTi partiis an xelisuflebis organod<br />
ver darCeboda. meTodurad, TandaTanobiT, xalxis survilebis gaTvaliswinebiT daiwyo misi gadayvana<br />
sruliad sxva sazogadoebriv relsebze. amis kvalobaze, moixsna iseTi mowodeba, rogoric iyo:<br />
„proletarebo, yvela qveynisa, SeerTdiT!” amis nacvlad daiwera is, rac dRemde mwams da yvela<br />
gazeTisTvis iqneba saukeTeso slogani - „Cven unda Cveni vSvaT myoobadi (ilia WavWavaZe).~ moixsna is<br />
„ordenebi,” riTac damSvenebuli iyo im gazeTis pirveli gverdi. gazeTs saxeli gadaerqva.<br />
Cemi misvlis dros gazeTis saxelwodeba iyo „komunisti.” me baton gumbariZes, imJamindelikompartiis<br />
ck-s mdivans, ramdenime werili gavugzavne saxelis gadarqmevasTan dakavSirebiT, radgan is aRar iyo<br />
komunistebis kuTvnileba, is gaxda xalxis gazeTi, magram, samwuxarod, misgan pasuxs ver viRebdi... erT<br />
mSvenier dRes, yovelgvari SeTanxmebis gareSe, rodesac gaiRviZa saqarTvelos mosaxleobam, maT ver<br />
moiZies gazeTi „komunisti,” aRmoCnda, rom am gazeTs „axali saqarTvelo” erqva.<br />
_ _ es es es Tqveni Tqveni iniciativa iniciativa iyo?<br />
iyo?<br />
_ es iyo piradad Cemi iniciativa, aseve Cemi megobrebisa da moadgileebis: nodar javeliZis, Sio<br />
larculianisa da kidev bevri sxvis. meSinia romelime ar gamomrCes.. ase daibada axali gazeTi. Cven<br />
am gazeTze muSaoba axali reJimiTa da axali saxelwodebiT gavagrZeleT, magram Semdgom me deputatad<br />
amirCies da Cemma Semcvlelma, Zalian niWierma Jurnalistma mamuka faCuaSvilma am gazeTs saxeli<br />
kvlav gadaarqva da uwoda „saqarTvelos respublika.” dRemde gazeTi am saxelwodebiT agrZelebs<br />
arsebobas...<br />
_ _ ra ra saerTos saerTos saerTos xedavT xedavT samarTalsa samarTalsa da da Jurnalistikas Jurnalistikas Soris. Soris. ra ra iyo iyo is, is, ramac ramac ramac TqvenSi<br />
TqvenSi<br />
xelisuflebis xelisuflebis es es ori ori nairsaxeoba nairsaxeoba erTmaneTs erTmaneTs daukavSira?<br />
daukavSira?<br />
6
_ simarTle giTxraT, amgvari arCevani Tavad ar gamikeTebia,<br />
magram siamovnebiT miviRe es gamowveva, radgan Jurnalistikasa da<br />
samarTals Soris Zalian bevri ram vpove saerTo. pirveli da<br />
mTavaria am cnebebis teleologiur_miznobrivi ganmarteba. orive<br />
es dargi, uwinares yovlisa, WeSmaritebis da simarTlis dadgenas<br />
emsaxureba. es aris yvelaze maRali da wmidaTawmida ideali,<br />
romelsac SeiZleba kacobrioba emsaxurebodes. aseve, Zalian<br />
msgavsia is saSualebebi, romelsac iyenebs an, Tuki ar iyenebs,<br />
unda iyenebdes Jurnalisti _ es aris faqtebis moZieba, maTi<br />
piruTvneli dalageba da klasifikacia; rac mTavaria, maTi Sefaseba<br />
ara mikerZoebiT, ara akviatebiT, aramed swored ise, rogorc amas<br />
imsaxureben is faqtebi da adamianebi, romlebic am faqtebs<br />
exebian . e.i. miznebi da saSualebebi saerTo aqvT.<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom asakSi mciredi gansxvaveba aris, amboben,<br />
rom Jurnalistika samarTalTan SedarebiT adre daibada. bunebrivia,<br />
xumrobiT imasac amboben, rom Jurnalistika erT-erTi uZvelesi<br />
profesiaa. esaa sxvaoba maT Soris.<br />
TinaTin TinaTin wereTeli<br />
wereTeli<br />
kidev erTi niSani, romelic erTmaneTTan akavSirebs da<br />
anaTesavebs Jurnalistikasa da samarTals, aris is, rom orive<br />
maTgans xelisuflebis calke ganStoebad moixsenieben _ samarTals, rogorc mesame ganStoebas, xolo<br />
Jurnalistikas, rogorc `meoTxe ganStoebas.~. imis miuxedavad, rom mTlianad amas ar veTanxmebi, vcnob<br />
da vaRiareb, rom isini Zalian Zlevamosili rgolebia politikur da sazogadoebriv cxovrebaSi.<br />
samarTalic aris xelisuflebis ganStoeba, magram igi sxva ganStoebebisagan gansxvavebiT, rogoric<br />
aris, magaliTad, sakanonmdeblo da aRmasrulebeli xelisufleba, ar aris politikuri ganStoeba<br />
xelisuflebisa, is profesiuli ganStoebaa...<br />
imis gamo, rom politikuri ganStoebebi xalxis azrze arian agebuli, azrze, romelic ar aris<br />
profesiuli azri, saWiro gaxda amis gawonasworeba profesiuli, iuristebis codniT da ase Seiqmna<br />
mesame xelisufleba, romelic, amave dros, unda yofiliyo gamzavebeli winare ori politikuri<br />
xelisuflebisa, an momrigebeli an kidev ganmsjeli.<br />
rac Seexeba Jurnalistikas...Jurnalistikas xelisufleba SeiZleba ewodos mxolod rogorc metafora,<br />
radganac is arc politikuri xelisuflebaa da arc profesiuli, magram is Tavisi zegavleniT metia<br />
vidre nebismieri sxva, am sami xelisuflebisagan... vinaidan erTis saTaveSic viyavi da meorisac,<br />
araerTxel davrwmundi, rom Jurnalistika gacilebiT Zlieri iaraRia sazogadoebis xelSi, vidre<br />
TviT marTlmsajulebis umaRlesi organoc ki.<br />
_ _ _ XXI XXI saukuneSi, saukuneSi, Jurnalistikis Jurnalistikis arsi, arsi, cotaTi cotaTi Seicvala Seicvala Seicvala da da aristoteles: aristoteles: aristoteles: „yoveli<br />
„yoveli<br />
sityvis sityvis sityvis saboloo saboloo saboloo mizania mizania winaswargansazRvruli winaswargansazRvruli winaswargansazRvruli sikeTe,~ sikeTe,~ sensaciebs sensaciebs gamokidebulma, gamokidebulma, Sou<br />
Sou<br />
efeqtebze efeqtebze gaTvlilma gaTvlilma mediam mediam Caanacvla. Caanacvla. Caanacvla. mainc mainc ra ra aris aris Jurnalistikis Jurnalistikis arsi arsi _simarTlis<br />
_simarTlis<br />
Zieba Zieba Tu Tu Tu sazogadoebaze sazogadoebaze nebismieri nebismieri ZaliT ZaliT zegavlenis zegavlenis moxdena?<br />
moxdena?<br />
_ ara mgonia, Jurnalistikis Tavdapirveli miznebi da amocanebi Secvliliyo. Seicvala ara imdenad<br />
is, rasac unda emsaxurebodes Jurnalistika, aramed damokidebuleba Jurnalistikis mimarT axali<br />
Taobebisa, romelTagan politikuri nawili am Taobebisa kidev ufro materialisti, kidev ufro<br />
momxmarebeli da kidev ufro muStruli TvaliT mocqirali aRmoCnda. Jurnalistikam araviTar<br />
SemTxvevaSi ar unda Seicvalos da arc SeiZleba Seicvalos Tavisi arsi da daniSnuleba, magram bevri<br />
ram imazea damokidebuli, Tu rogor movepyrobiT mas... vinc faqizad moepyroba, ise rogorc unda<br />
epyrobodeT yvelafers Zalian mniSvnelovans, Rirebulsa da sagulisxmos, sabolood is gaimarjvebs,<br />
xolo is sazogadoeba, romelic Jurnalistikas mTlianad gamoiyenebs, rogorc piaris saSualebas,<br />
rogorc moCvenebiTi efeqtebis saSualebas, rogorc (pirdapir vityvi) xalxis gabriyvebis saSualebas,<br />
_ is ver gaixarebs sabolood. amitom is warmateba, romelic, TiTqos, miRweulia, mxolod momenturia<br />
da ara monumenturi.<br />
_ _ batono batono mindia, mindia, rogor rogor fiqrobT, fiqrobT, fiqrobT, politika politika „binZuri „binZuri saqmea~?<br />
saqmea~?<br />
_ binZur xelebSi, politikac SeiZleba binZuri iyos... politikis bevri gansazRvreba arsebobs,<br />
magram me piradad, Zalian momwons politikis aristoteleseuli gansazRvreba, romelic Zalian<br />
vrcelia da TiTqmis yvelafris momcveli, magram Zalian moxdenili da zusti. aristotelem brZana:<br />
„politika es aris mecniereba da xelovneba sazogadoebis keTildReobis Sesaxeb.~ Tu Cven Tanamedrove<br />
enaze SevecdebiT amis ganmartebas, gavigebT, rom politika es aris sazogadoebis keTildReobaze<br />
zrunvis Teoria da praqtika.<br />
miWirs ar daveTanxmo aristoteles, marto imitom ki ara, rom is didi avtoritetia, aramed<br />
imitom, rom igi Cemi sulis simebs Seexo da swored is simebi Camohkra, romelic Cems gulsa da<br />
gonebas exmianeba.<br />
_ _ Tqven Tqven strasburgSi strasburgSi adamianis adamianis uflebaTa uflebaTa uflebaTa evropul evropul sasamarTloSi sasamarTloSi sasamarTloSi mosamarTled mosamarTled iyaviT<br />
iyaviT<br />
arCeuli... arCeuli... ras ras gaixsenebT gaixsenebT im im periodidan...<br />
periodidan...<br />
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_ gasaxsenebeli Zalian bevria... es aris<br />
strasburgSi ganvlili 10 weli... sxvaTa Soris,<br />
Zalian sainteresoa is faqti, rom Tqven brZandebiT<br />
pirveli adamiani, araTu Jurnalisti, vinc<br />
dainteresda imiT, Tu ra xdeboda im 10 wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi da rogor xedavda am movlenebs<br />
saqarTvelodan mosamarTled wargzavnili kaci,<br />
romelic, ra Tqma unda, iq aRar iyo saqarTvelos<br />
warmomadgeneli, iq kargav Sens erovnebas da xdebi<br />
saerTaSoriso figura.<br />
vfiqrob, yvelaze mTavari da mniSvnelovani aris<br />
is, rom arsebobs sadRac adgili, sadac SeiZleba<br />
araTu iocnebos adamianma simarTlis miRwevaze,<br />
mindia mindia ugrexeliZe ugrexeliZe ugrexeliZe strasburgSi<br />
strasburgSi aramed Tavad moipovos es simarTle. amis mowme da<br />
(marjvniv)<br />
(marjvniv)<br />
zogjer Semoqmedic sxvebTan erTad, me TviTon<br />
gavxdi. minda aRdniSno, rom strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />
iyo da, vimedovneb, rom momavalSic darCeba im<br />
gulanTebuli profesionalebis samuSao adgilad, sadac isini moqmedeben, marTlac, yvela im principis<br />
Sesabamisad, romelic marTlmsajulebis principebad aris cnobili.<br />
yvelaze mniSvnelovani, rac iq aRmovaCine, aris is saocari sxvaoba, romelic me mixilavs qveynis<br />
Sida samarTlebriv sistemebSi, ara marto saqarTveloSi, aramed ruseTSic da sxva ucxo qveynebSic. es<br />
aris is, rom mosamarTleebis, policielebisa da prokurorebis msgavsad, tyavSi Zvrebodnen da<br />
cdilobdnen daemtkicebinaT xelisuflebisTvis erTguleba imiT, rom zogjer maSinac ki simkacres<br />
iCendnen, rodesac lmobiereba iyo saWiro. samarTlianoba niSnavs imas, rom yvelas miezRos is, rac<br />
daimsaxura. es iyo pirveli SemTxveva, rodesac me vimuSave adamianebTan, romelTa mTeli azri da<br />
goneba, mTeli SemarTeba mimarTuli iyo iqiTken, rom, uwinares yovlisa, moeZiaT adamianuri elementi<br />
adamianSi da iseTi gadawyvetileba mieRoT, romelic yvelaze metad gamoadgeboda am adamians, rogorc<br />
momavlis Suqura da lampari, ise sazogadoebas. Tu ki vinmem scada, rom daemkvidrebina Tavisi Tavi<br />
marTlmsajulebaSi, es SeZlo man, vinc am principebiT imoqmeda.<br />
Zalian moxaruli var da maqvs kidec sabuTi amisa, rom rodesac kembrijis sainformacio cnobari<br />
gamovida saerTaSoriso samarTlis Teoretikos da praqtikos mesveurTa Taobaze, me aRmovCndi am<br />
cnobarSi, imaTgan gasxvavebiT, romlebic CemTan muSaobdnen. am faqtma Zalian gamaoca, magram Semdeg<br />
gairkva, rom im cnobarSi xvdebodnen mosamarTleebi, romelTac yvelaze ufro gaxmaurebul saqmeebSi<br />
miiRes monawileoba. me mqonda saqmeebi, romelic precedentuli gaxda 800 -milioniani evropisaTvis..<br />
es iyo, magaliTad, ojalanis saqme, pinoCetis saqme...<br />
_ _ _ rogorc rogorc vici, vici, Tqven Tqven brZandebiT brZandebiT brZandebiT amerikis amerikis sami sami qalaqis qalaqis sapatio sapatio moqalaqe. moqalaqe. rogor<br />
rogor<br />
moxda moxda moxda es es da da ras ras niSnavs niSnavs es es TqvenTvis?<br />
TqvenTvis?<br />
_ daviwyeb iqidan, rom es CemTvis niSnavs Zalian did siamayes da, amavdroulad, pasuxismgeblobas.<br />
pasuxismgebloba pirvel rigSi mdgomareobs imaSi, rom xar sapatio moqalaqe da Sen unda gamoafxizlo<br />
qveyana imiT, rom ar ahyve yvela im axirebas, romelic SeiZleba maT organoebs an mesveurebs<br />
aRmoaCndeT. amitom, nu gagikvirdebaT is, rom me saqarTveloSi mTel rig amerikul proeqtebs ar<br />
vuWer mxars, imis miuxedavad, rom valdebuli var, amerikis kulturas yvelanairad mxari davuWiro<br />
da es me gamovxate imiT, rom vTargmne Zalian bevri ram, davaarse bilinguri literatura, sadac or<br />
enazea gamocemuli saxelmZRvaneloebi, damoukideblobis deklaracia...<br />
ase rom, Cemi movaleoba rogorc moqalaqisa, amerikis winaSe mesmis swored ise, rogorc mesmis<br />
saqarTvelos winaSe. ar mimaCnia, rom saqarTveloSi kargi moqalaqeoba niSnavdes imas, rom yvelaferze<br />
Tavi „ukanturo” xelisuflebas. aris rigi sakiTxebisa, romelSic ver gaviziareb maTs pozicias da<br />
verc daveTanxmebi. zustad aseve, vfiqrob, rom amerikis politikaSi yvelaferi misaRebi ar aris da,<br />
miTumetes, ar SeiZleba yvelaferi erTnairad misaRebi iyos qarTuli gadasaxedidan.<br />
_ _ erTgan erTgan werT: werT: werT: „yvelaferi „yvelaferi Zvirdeba Zvirdeba dardis dardis garda...”batoni garda...”batoni mindia mindia ugrexeliZe ugrexeliZe mweralic<br />
mweralic<br />
aris?<br />
aris?<br />
_ vfiqrob, yvela vinc wers _ mweralia. mwerloba bevrnairia. arsebobs mecnieruli mwerloba,<br />
mxatvruli mwerloba, proza, poezia da kidev bevri sxva Janri. ara mgonia, gadamwyveti mniSvneloba<br />
hqondes, romel JanrSi wer. mTavaria, rom Sen kalams „awripinebde” .... me maqvs Targmanebi, maqvs<br />
publicisturi narkvevebi, eseebi. ar vamxel, magram SigadaSig leqsebic damiweria, magram Cemi<br />
mTavari mwerlobis sabuTi aris is, rom maqvs wignebi, monografiebi, statiebi da am naSromebis<br />
raodenoba, cxadia, gamoqveynebuls aRemateba.<br />
_ _ risTvis risTvis midis midis midis mecnieri, mecnieri, samarTalmcodne, samarTalmcodne, umaRlesi umaRlesi saswavleblis saswavleblis pedagogi pedagogi pedagogi politikaSi?<br />
politikaSi?<br />
politikaSi?<br />
8
_ getyviT, rom erT-erTi mizezi iyo pirveli damoukidebeli qarTuli parlamenti, romelic ar<br />
gaxldaT arc kremlisa da arc partiul diqtatis qveS da, Tundac amitom rom sdomeboda axalgazrda<br />
kacs qveynis aRmSeneblobaSi monawileobis miReba, vfiqrob, amaSi araferi unda iyos arc gasakviri da<br />
arc dasaZraxi.. magram kidev ufro Zlieri momenti iyo is, rom saqarTvelo Sedga ganviTarebis axal<br />
gzaze da yvela Tavmoyvare adamians, romelsac codnis raRac minimaluri maragi mainc hqonda<br />
dagrovili, unda gasCenoda survili am aRmSeneblobiT procesSi monawileobisa. mogexsenebaT, rom<br />
qveynis umaRlesi sakanonmdeblo organo _ parlamenti, maSin mas uzenaesi sabWo erqva, uamravi kanonis<br />
miRebas gegmavda da am kanonebis safuZvelze unda SemuSavebuliyo politika; unda ganviTarebuliyo<br />
Semdgom Cveni cxovreba, rogorc aRmasrulebel, aseve samosamarTlo dargSi.<br />
kidev erTi Zalian Zlieri argumenti politikaSi wasvlisa aris is, rom parlamenti, upirveles<br />
yovlisa, aris sakanonmdeblo organo, romelic kanonebs qmnis. ra Tqma unda, iq sxva dargis specialistebic<br />
saWiroa, magram araferi iseTi mniSvnelovani ar aris, rogorc profesionali iuristi, romelmac icis,<br />
ra aris kanoni, ra aris samarTali. ra TanafardobaSia es ori cneba erTmaneTTan. me mimaCnda, rom<br />
sasargeblo iqneboda qveynisTvis, Tuki kanonmcodne, sakanonmdeblo organoSi iqneboda.<br />
aris kidev erTi mizezi, rac ar SemiZlia ar vTqva: me quTaisSi davibade. iq davamTavre skola. minda<br />
visargeblo SemTxveviT da madlierebiT movixsenio Cemi pedagogebi, romelTac me, Cemi qveynis,<br />
simarTlisa da samarTlis siyvaruli Camagones. aseve, es iyo uaRresad saintereso qalaqi, romelic<br />
saWiroebda did mxardaWeras. rodesac mecnierebis an pedagogiur sarbielze viyavi, Cemi mcdelobebi,<br />
rom quTaisisTvis raRac gamekeTebina, mTavrdeboda imiT, rom mikiJinebdnen, amisTvis arsebobs xalxi,<br />
arseboben deputatebio... imiT, rom me deputati gavxdi, movipove legitimuri ufleba imisa, rom<br />
quTaisze ubralod ki ar meocneba. aramed oficialurad, kanonismieri gzebiT mezruna da mebrZola<br />
quTaisis keTildReobisaTvis.<br />
_ _ radio radio „Tavisuflebis” „Tavisuflebis” „Tavisuflebis” dRiurebs dRiurebs gadavxede, gadavxede, sadac sadac Tqven Tqven natrobT natrobT _ _ _ „odesme „odesme Tu<br />
Tu<br />
gveRirseba gveRirseba gveRirseba qarTvelebs qarTvelebs samarTlis samarTlis zeobaze zeobaze dafuZnebul, dafuZnebul, demokratiul demokratiul saxelmwifoSi<br />
saxelmwifoSi<br />
saxelmwifoSi<br />
cxovrebao.” cxovrebao.” am am SekiTxvas SekiTxvas axla axla me me me gibrunebT....<br />
gibrunebT....<br />
_ albaT, gveRirseba, magram samwuxarod, Zalian Soreuli konturebi Cans... imitom rom eg aravisze<br />
ar aris damokidebuli. Cems asakSi cota dagvianebulia politikaSi, Torem rom vakvirdebi, bevri rame<br />
CemTvis gaugebari da miuRebelia. Tumca yvelaze didi gulistkivili is aris, rom qarTvelTa<br />
erTianobis sakiTxi yovelTvis iyo da dResac rCeba ganuxorcielebel amocanad. sanam yvela qarTveli<br />
erTad ar dadgeba, raoden gansxvavebuli gemovnebisa da politikuri Sexedulebebisac unda iyos, manam<br />
es Zneli misaRwevi iqneba. es ar niSnavs imas, rom saqarTvelom uari Tqvas partiul cxovrebaze, es<br />
ar niSnavs imas, rom ar unda arsebobdes politikuri partiebi. ra Tqma unda, es SeiZleba da unda iyos,<br />
magram aris eris sasicocxlo interesebi, sadac ar unda arsebobdes, aranairi gansxvaveba qarTvelTa:<br />
isini ulaparakod, mosisxle mtradac rom miaCndes meore qarTveli, erTad unda loculobdnen da<br />
ibrZodnen. vidre es ar miiRweva, manam, albaT, araferi gamova, raoden swori politikuri daskvnebic<br />
ar unda gakeTdes.<br />
rac am bolo dros xdeboda, CemTvis gaugebaria, ratom unda ganxiluliyo alternativad is<br />
meTodebi, romlebic radikalur politikur meTodebad iyo gamocxadebuli da is meTodebi, romlebic<br />
komformistul meTodebad iyo gamocxadebuli.. ra Tqma unda, arc radikalebs vuwodebdi erTs, da arc<br />
komformistebs meores. yovelTvis mimaCnda, rom es ori mimarTuleba erTmaneTs unda daxmareboda. imis<br />
gamo, rom igive Sekrebebisa da aqciebis ufleba aris bunebrivi demokratiuli, politikuri cxovrebis<br />
nawili; rogor SeiZleba amaze uari Tqva, rogor SeiZleba uari Tqva imave quCis aqciebze, Tu<br />
saWiroeba iqna amisi, quCis aqcia iseTive legitimuri formaa, rogorc, vTqvaT, SenobaSi politikuri<br />
Sekrebis mowyoba... yovelive amaze uaris Tqma TviTizolacias niSnavs.<br />
_ _ Tqveni Tqveni azriT, azriT, rogori rogori unda unda iyos iyos iyos Tanamedrove Tanamedrove Jurnalisti?<br />
Jurnalisti?<br />
Jurnalisti?<br />
_ Cemi Rrma rwmeniT, igi, uwinares yovlisa, unda iyos adamiani, romelic SeZlebs, raRac samsaxovani<br />
xateba Seqmnas moazrovne arsebisa, romelic Tavis saqmianobaSi SeZlebs erTmaneTs Seuxamos, delikaturi<br />
balansi daamyaros warsuls, awmyosa da momavals Soris.<br />
erTi mxriv, qarTuli Jurnalistika uTuod unda iyos fesvgadgmuli warsulSi da did qarTul<br />
Jurnalistur tradiciebSi. meore mxriv, is Tvals unda usworebdes Tanamedrove gamowvevebs, radgan,<br />
Tu marto warsulSi davrCiT da davtoveT gauTvaliswinebeli amwuTieri aucilebloba, Tanamedroveni<br />
ver viqnebiT. am TvalsazrisiT, Zalian mniSvnelovania ganaTleba da didi codna. Jurnalists unda<br />
hqondes erTgvari ‘sacecebi,~ romliTac grZnobs epoqis sunTqvas, unda hqondes naTeli xedva, Torem<br />
mxolod diletanturi Tvalis SevlebiT verafers gaawyobs.<br />
esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar Tamar kedia kedia kedia kedia kedia<br />
interviuSi interviuSi gamoyenebul gamoyenebul fotoebze fotoebze (gv. (gv. 6,9) 6,9) saavtoro saavtoro ufleba ufleba ekuTvnis ekuTvnis ekuTvnis evropis evropis<br />
evropis<br />
sabWos<br />
sabWos<br />
9
Rvinov Rvinov qarTulo...<br />
qarTulo...<br />
XIX saukunis II naxevarSi sofel muxranSi<br />
agebulia umSvenieresi sasaxle, Rvinis<br />
sardafebiT da 4,4 heqtari dekoratiuli<br />
parkiT, romelic ekuTvnoda msxvil qarTvel<br />
memamules, ruseTis armiis generalleitenants<br />
ivane konstantines Ze<br />
muxranbatons. ivane konstantines Ze<br />
bagrationebis samefo sagvareulos umcrosi<br />
Stos warmomadgeneli iyo. misi papa _ ivane<br />
gavlenian politikur moRvawed iTvleboda,<br />
man saqarTvelos mxridan garsevan<br />
WavWavaZesTan erTad xeli moawera<br />
georgievskis traqtats.<br />
`muxranuli~ sasaxle Zvel aziur stilSia<br />
nagebi, Tumca dRes iq aziuri elementebis<br />
nimuSs, mgoni, verc TviT legendaruli farsman<br />
sparsi aRmoaCens, Tundac misi AaRdgenis<br />
SesaZlebloba davuSvaT.<br />
am sasaxlis mTavari istoria Rvinisa da<br />
mevenaxeobis kulturas ukavSirdeba, aqedan<br />
modis im Rvinis saxelwodebac, romelsac<br />
`Sato muxranis~ saxeliT vicnobT.<br />
1876 wels ivane muxran-batons<br />
safrangeTidan mouwvevia meRvine emir Jani,<br />
dauxmarebia cnobili qarTveli meRvine<br />
jorjaZec da tevadobiT 1 milion 200<br />
aTaslitriani Rvinis qarxana augia, sadac<br />
Rvinos evropuli wesiT ayenebdnen.<br />
muxran-batonis muxran-batonis muxran-batonis muxran-batonis muxran-batonis `Sato `Sato `Sato `Sato `Sato muxrani~ muxrani~ muxrani~ muxrani~ muxrani~ _ _ _ _ _ parizis parizis parizis parizis parizis saocreba saocreba saocreba saocreba saocreba<br />
muxran-batonis yofili mouravis vasil<br />
argaxanovis gadmocemiT, sasaxlis win<br />
Sadrevani iyo agebuli, sardafidan gvirabiT<br />
Rvino gadmodioda. ivane muxran-batons<br />
safrangeTidan mowveuli stumrebisTvis auzSi<br />
Camonadeni Rvino miurTmevia.<br />
muxran-batonma erT-erTma pirvelma<br />
moaxerxa Rvinis ise damuSaveba da daZveleba,<br />
10<br />
rom Tavisuflad SeiZleboda misi Sor<br />
manZilze transportireba da saukeTeso<br />
niSan-Tvisebebis SenarCuneba ar gasWirvebia.<br />
1882 wels moskovis sasoflo- sameurneo<br />
gamofenaze pirvelad gamoCnda muxranuli<br />
Rvino, romelmac udidesi mowoneba<br />
daimsaxura.<br />
1889 weli parizSi, erT-erT samefo<br />
darbazSi gamarTul Rvinis saerTaSoriso<br />
gamofenaze etiketze frangulad ewera:<br />
`princ ivane muxranbatonis Rvinoebi,<br />
ruseTi.~ TiTqmis aravin icoda, rom Rvino<br />
`muxrani~ ruseTSi ki ara, saqarTvelos erT<br />
patara sofelSi iyo dawuruli. muxranbatonis<br />
`muxrani~ oqros medliT dajildovda.<br />
parizi muxran-batonis ocnebis qalaqi iyo,<br />
amitom igi iq Tavisi Rvinoebis<br />
gavrcelebisTvis dauRalavad miiswrafvoda.<br />
dResac aris SemorCenili erTi gadmocema,<br />
romlis mixedviT ivanes sagangebod frangi<br />
studentebi dauqiravebia, romlebic<br />
restornebSi Sediodnen da muxranis<br />
Sampanurs Txoulobdnen, roca aRmoCndeboda,<br />
rom maspinZlebs araTu ar hqondaT am<br />
dasaxelebis Sampanuri, arc ki gaegonaT igi,<br />
studentebi iqaurobas dauyovnebliv<br />
tovebdnen. ivane muxran-batonis eSmakobam<br />
Sedegi gamoiRo - male misi `wminda nino~<br />
parizis yvela prestiJul restorans<br />
amSvenebda.<br />
XIX saukunis miwurulisTvis ruseTis<br />
imperiaSi muxran-batonis Rvinoebis umaRlesi<br />
xarisxi sabolood aRiares.<br />
sasaxle amJamad dangreulia da<br />
restavracias saWiroebs, Tumca Rvinis qarxana<br />
aRdgenilia da erT-erT saukeTeso Rvinos<br />
sTavazobs bazars.<br />
`Sato muxrani~ qarTul bazarze 2009<br />
wlidan gamoCnda da dReisaTvis 6 dasaxelebis<br />
Rvinos awarmoebs. 2010 wlis 23 noembers<br />
kompania `Sato muxranma~ giorgobis<br />
brwyinvale dResaswaulze restoran<br />
`qalaqurSi~ Rvinoebis - `goruli mwvanis~<br />
da `sovinion blanis~ wardgineba gamarTa.<br />
`Sato muxranis~ Rvinoebi safrangeTSi,<br />
holandiaSi da baltiispireTis qveynebSi ukve<br />
iyideba.<br />
lika lika lika lika lika amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili
samecniero samecniero konferencia<br />
konferencia<br />
kavkasiis saerTaSoriso universitetis<br />
Jurnalistebma monawileoba miiRes grigol<br />
robaqiZis universitetis studentTa<br />
sauniversitetTaSoriso samecniero<br />
konferenciis muSaobaSi. erTmaneTs Sexvdnen<br />
sxvadasxva universitetis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
grigol robaqiZis universitetSi<br />
Seikriba uamravi studenti, Relva ufro<br />
matulobda, rac imiT iyo gamowveuli, rom<br />
axalbeda pirvelkurselebi mxolod Cveni<br />
Jurnalistebi iyvnen kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
universitetidan.<br />
Jiuris SemadgenlobaSi Sediodnen<br />
kavkasiis saerTaSoriso universitetis<br />
profesorebi: qalbatoni Ddiana tyebuCava<br />
da batoni goCa xundaZe. Jiuri sakmaod miukerZoebeli da mkacri iyo.<br />
naSromebi studentebma erTmaneTis miyolebiT, dRis wesrigis mixedviT waradgines.<br />
Tioeuli moxsenebis reglamenti 10 wuTs Seadgenda.<br />
Cveni universitetis wamomadgenlebi iyvnen: mariam cxovrebaSvili, nodar CxaiZe, giorgi<br />
iaSvili, qeTevan ebitaSvili. monawileTa moxsenebebis Tezisebi mSvenier broSurebSi<br />
gamoqveynda da konferenciis dRis wesrigTan erTad mogvarTves. umSvenieres ovalur<br />
magidas SemovusxediT da konferenciac daiwyo..<br />
socialur mecnierebaTa seqcia sul 16 monawiles aerTianebda. ksu-s wargzavnilebidan<br />
pirvelad mariam cxovrebaSvili warsdga mexuTe nomriT, misma moxsenebam: `Tanamedrove<br />
media bazari: problemebi da perspeqtivebi~- jansaRi diskusia gamoiwvia studentebs<br />
Soris. mariams SeuZlia iamayos, rom man SeZlo auditoriis ayolieba.<br />
kavkasiis kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
saerTaSoriso<br />
stumrad<br />
stumrad<br />
grigol grigol robaqiZis robaqiZis universitetSi...<br />
universitetSi...<br />
Semdegi momxsenebeli giorgi iaSvili<br />
gaxldaT TemiT: “logikuri xrikebi,<br />
Jurnalisturi argumentirebulobis “Savi<br />
xvreli.” igi namdvili oratoria, umal<br />
daipyro auditoria da dadebiTad damuxta<br />
daqanculi Jiuri, man SeZlo Jiuris gulis<br />
mogebac...<br />
giorgis Cveni meore niWieri ymawvili<br />
nodar CxaiZe mohyva moxsenebiT: “qarTuli<br />
mediis eTikurobis xarisxi.” es Tema sakmaod<br />
aqtualuria dRevandel sazogadoebaSi.<br />
Sesvenebis Semdeg Cveni meoTxe warmomadgeneli<br />
qeTevan ebitaSvili gamovida - Zalian<br />
gamikvirda qeTevanis simSvide, radgan am dros<br />
simSvidis SenarCuneba Znelia.<br />
ara mxolod Jiuri, iq myofi studentebic<br />
ki ar zogavdnen Tavs da kiTxvas kiTxvaze<br />
11
svamdnen _ dabneuloba ki aseT situaciaSi TiTqmis gardauvali<br />
iyo. Sesvenebam uceb Caiara da qeTis gamosvlis droc dadga...<br />
misi Tema gaxldaT: `Jurnalistis aTi mcneba da Svidni<br />
upatiebeli codvani qarTvel JurnalistTa arsenalSi.~ man<br />
isaubra, Tu rogori unda iyos namdvili Jurnalisti.<br />
konferenciam kargad Caiara, Cvenebma SeWidebas gauZles da<br />
kargi Sefasebebic daimsaxures.<br />
xumroba xom araa, Cvennairi aqtiuri studentebi dasva<br />
erT auditoriaSi 8 saaTis ganmavlobaSi? sanam Jiuri<br />
TaTbirobda, Cveni faruli komunikabelurobis niWi gamoviyeneT<br />
da gavicaniT TiToeuli monawile. erTmaneTs Cveni profesiuli<br />
Sexedulebebi gavuziareT. konferenciam<br />
studentTa Soris informaciaTa gacvlis<br />
areali gaafarTova, sxvadasxva universitetis<br />
studentTa daaxloebasac Seuwyo xeli.<br />
ai, dadga kulminaciac, dajildoebis dro.<br />
adgilebi ase ganawilda:<br />
nominacia_saukeTeso nominacia_saukeTeso kvleviTi<br />
kvleviTi<br />
naSromi:<br />
naSromi:<br />
!. Tamar qardava (grigol robaqiZis<br />
saxelmwifo universiteti), “nafic msajulTa<br />
sasamarTlo;”<br />
2. Tamar RvaberiZe, ana anuSaZe (ivane<br />
javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />
universiteti), `evrokavSiris sagareo da<br />
usafrTxoebis politika;~<br />
3. mari meliqiSvili (ivane javaxiSvilis<br />
saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universiteti), `sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblebi;~<br />
originaluri originaluri kvleva:<br />
kvleva:<br />
1. beqa faSaliSvili (ilias saxelmwifo universiteti), `politikuri reklama;~<br />
2. irine merabiSvili (grigol robaqiZis universiteti), `Tengiz abulaZis zneobrivi<br />
da SemoqmedebiTi kredo;~<br />
3. Tekle kuWuxiZe (grigol robaqiZis universiteti);<br />
`interneti, socialuri qselebi, vikiliqsi;~<br />
saukeTeso saukeTeso prezentacia:<br />
prezentacia:<br />
Tamar RvedaSvili (grigol robaqiZis universiteti)<br />
`eTikis kodeqsi sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis britanuli<br />
BBC-s da saqarTvelos sazogado mauwyeblis `pirveli<br />
arxis~ magaliTze;~<br />
Jiuris Jiuris simpaTia:<br />
simpaTia:<br />
giorgi iaSvili (kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
universiteti)- `logikuri xrikebi, Jurnalisturi<br />
argumentirebulobis `Savi xvrelebi.~<br />
giorgim Tavidanve SeZlo Jiuris moxiblva efeqturi<br />
prezentaciiT, es Cveni gamarjvebaa. Zalian didi muxti<br />
iyo imis gacnobiereba, rom studentebis Sromam nayofi<br />
gamoiRo. minda es monapovari mivuloco mTlianad kavkasiis<br />
saerTaSoriso universitets. gavbedav da vityvi, rom es<br />
mxolod dasawyisia...<br />
da bolos, Cveni universitetis saxeliT madlobas gadavuxdi grigol robaqiZis<br />
universitetis TiToeul TanamSromels, konferenciis organizatorebs am SesaniSnavi<br />
dRisTvis, Tbili daxvedrisTvis. vimedovneb, male Cven vumaspinZlebT analogiur konferencias.<br />
12<br />
liza liza metreveli<br />
metreveli
saganZuri<br />
saganZuri<br />
`erisionma~<br />
`erisionma~<br />
`erisionma~<br />
mesame mesame mesame mesame mesame saukuneSi<br />
saukuneSi<br />
saukuneSi<br />
saukuneSi<br />
saukuneSi<br />
Seabija Seabija Seabija Seabija Seabija<br />
xalxuri xalxuri xalxuri xalxuri xalxuri cekvisa cekvisa cekvisa cekvisa cekvisa da da da da da simReris simReris simReris simReris simReris saxelmwifo saxelmwifo saxelmwifo saxelmwifo saxelmwifo akademiuri akademiuri akademiuri akademiuri akademiuri ansambli ansambli ansambli ansambli ansambli `erisioni~<br />
`erisioni~<br />
`erisioni~<br />
`erisioni~<br />
`erisioni~<br />
125 125 125 125 125 wlis wlis wlis wlis wlis gaxda. gaxda. gaxda. gaxda. gaxda. 1885 1885 1885 1885 1885 wels wels wels wels wels Camoyalibebulma Camoyalibebulma Camoyalibebulma Camoyalibebulma Camoyalibebulma koleqtivma koleqtivma koleqtivma koleqtivma koleqtivma ukve ukve ukve ukve ukve mesame mesame mesame mesame mesame saukuneSi saukuneSi saukuneSi saukuneSi saukuneSi<br />
Seabija, Seabija, Seabija, Seabija, Seabija, rac rac rac rac rac uprecedento uprecedento uprecedento uprecedento uprecedento SemTxvevaa SemTxvevaa SemTxvevaa SemTxvevaa SemTxvevaa mTel mTel mTel mTel mTel msoflioSi.<br />
msoflioSi.<br />
msoflioSi.<br />
msoflioSi.<br />
msoflioSi.<br />
saiubileod saiubileod saiubileod saiubileod saiubileod ansamblma ansamblma ansamblma ansamblma ansamblma axali axali axali axali axali Sou Sou Sou Sou Sou `qarTuli `qarTuli `qarTuli `qarTuli `qarTuli saganZuri~ saganZuri~ saganZuri~ saganZuri~ saganZuri~ dadga. dadga. dadga. dadga. dadga. programam<br />
programam<br />
programam<br />
programam<br />
programam<br />
warmateba warmateba warmateba warmateba warmateba moipova moipova moipova moipova moipova rogorc rogorc rogorc rogorc rogorc saqarTveloSi, saqarTveloSi, saqarTveloSi, saqarTveloSi, saqarTveloSi, ise ise ise ise ise mis mis mis mis mis farglebs farglebs farglebs farglebs farglebs gareT. gareT. gareT. gareT. gareT.<br />
SarSan SarSan SarSan SarSan SarSan ansambls ansambls ansambls ansambls ansambls udidesi udidesi udidesi udidesi udidesi warmatebebi warmatebebi warmatebebi warmatebebi warmatebebi xvda xvda xvda xvda xvda belorusiaSi.<br />
belorusiaSi.<br />
belorusiaSi.<br />
belorusiaSi.<br />
belorusiaSi.<br />
gTavazobT gTavazobT gTavazobT gTavazobT gTavazobT Cveni Cveni Cveni Cveni Cveni korespondentebis korespondentebis korespondentebis korespondentebis korespondentebis saubars saubars saubars saubars saubars `erisionis~<br />
`erisionis~<br />
`erisionis~<br />
`erisionis~<br />
`erisionis~<br />
samxatvro samxatvro samxatvro samxatvro samxatvro xelmZRvanelTan, xelmZRvanelTan, xelmZRvanelTan, xelmZRvanelTan, xelmZRvanelTan, baton baton baton baton baton jemal jemal jemal jemal jemal WkuaselTan<br />
WkuaselTan<br />
WkuaselTan.<br />
WkuaselTan<br />
WkuaselTan<br />
_ _ 24 24 welia welia ansambls ansambls xelmZRvanelobT,<br />
xelmZRvanelobT,<br />
rogor rogor rogor daiwyeT? daiwyeT?<br />
daiwyeT?<br />
_ _ _ daviwye yvelaze rTuliT. saerTod, Tu ginda,<br />
rom rame gamovides, unda daiwyo suliTa da guliT,<br />
sisxlis gaRebiT. amasTanave, saWiroa niWi da Sroma,<br />
agreTve_<br />
profesionalizmi<br />
da yoveldRiuri<br />
srulyofa.<br />
Tavdapirvelad mec<br />
am ansamblSi vmRerodi.<br />
am periodSi SemomTavazes<br />
quTaisSi gadasvla da<br />
ansamblis Seqmna. pirvelad<br />
uari vTqvi am SemoTavazebaze,<br />
radgan did pativs vcem<br />
folklors, qarTul simReras da cekvas, amitomac Tavs<br />
ar miviCnevdi imad, rom ansamblisTvis mexelmZRvanela<br />
da, miT umetes, Camomeyalibebina.<br />
axal samsaxurSi rom midixar, unda Seni gegma gqondes,<br />
icode, saidan da rogor modixar da axal saqmes xeli ise mokido. sabolood davTanxmdi,<br />
gadavedi quTaisSi da ansambli Sevqmeni. am ansamblis warmatebam ganapiroba is, rom did<br />
ansamblSi gadmomiyvanes da ukve 25 welia `erisions~ vxelmZRvanelob.<br />
_ saiubileod saiubileod ra ra siaxleebi siaxleebi siaxleebi SesTavaza SesTavaza SesTavaza ansamblma ansamblma ansamblma mayurebels?<br />
mayurebels?<br />
_ siaxleebi gvaqvs – teqnikuric da SemoqmedebiTic. ufro maRali donisaa ganaTeba da<br />
gaxmovaneba, aCqarebulia cekvis tempi, rac Sous efeqturobas aniWebs. davdgiT axali<br />
programa `qarTuli saganZuri.~<br />
im cvlilebebis miuxedavad, romelic dros moaqvs, yovelTvis vcdilobT viyoT pirveli<br />
wyaros erTgulebi da misi bunebis principi davicvaT.<br />
_ minskSi minskSi minskSi didi didi warmateba warmateba moipoveT. moipoveT. rogori rogori STabeWdileba STabeWdileba datova datova Tqvenze Tqvenze<br />
Tqvenze<br />
belorusma belorusma mayurebelma?<br />
mayurebelma?<br />
_ iseTi, rogoric danarCenma msofliom. koncertebma anSlagiT Caiara. mayurebeli<br />
emociebs veRar malavda, mTeli 40 wuTis ganmavlobaSi fexze idga da scenidan ar<br />
13
gviSvebda, rac uprecedento SemTxvevaa. mTavari ki is iyo, rom belorusebis garda<br />
koncerts specialurad Camosuli uamravi ucxoeli eswreboda.<br />
_ gamorCeulad gamorCeulad gamorCeulad Tu Tu dagamaxsovrdaT dagamaxsovrdaT romelime romelime koncerti?<br />
koncerti?<br />
_ _ verc erTs ver gamovarCevdi, radgan CemTvis yvela koncerti gamorCeulia. yvelgan<br />
didi sixaruliTa da pativiscemiT gvxvdebian. gavixsenebdi koncerts CineTSi, sadac<br />
warvadgineT Souprograma `legenda qariSxalze.~ Tqven ver warmoidgenT, ra xdeboda<br />
8000-kacian darbazSi. xalxi aRfrTovanebas ver malavda, arada, koncertis dawyebamde<br />
gagvafrTxiles, rom Cinel mayurebels<br />
mquxare taSi da ovaciebi ar<br />
axasiaTebso.<br />
aseve, gansakuTrebiT maxsendeba is<br />
koncertebi, romlebsac ucxoeTSi<br />
mcxovrebi Cveni Tanamemamuleebi<br />
eswrebodnen. isini emociebs da<br />
gancdebs ver malavdnen da xelaxali<br />
Sexvedris imediT Tvalcremlianni<br />
gvemSvidobebodnen.<br />
_ udidesi udidesi warmatebis<br />
warmatebis<br />
miuxedavad, miuxedavad, Tqvens Tqvens Tqvens ansambls ansambls arc<br />
arc<br />
gulistkena gulistkena daklebia...<br />
daklebia...<br />
_ _ simarTle giTxraT, ar miyvars<br />
am Temaze saubari. Cven gvqonda 14- wliani xelSekruleba ucxoelebTan. partniorebma ver<br />
gagvimarTles da iZulebuli gavxdiT, Segvewyvita es urTierToba. Zalian didi madlobeli<br />
var jim losi, romlis daxmarebiTac bevri kargi saqme gavakeTeT, magram moxda ise, rom<br />
am urTierTobaSi CaerTnen viRac-viRacebi, yvela cdilobda Tavisi qveynisTvis moergo<br />
Cveni ansambli.<br />
saerTod, vfiqrob, xelSekruleba garkveuli TvalsazrisiT “monobaa.” swored amitom,<br />
veridebiT grZelvadiani kontraqtebis gaformebas.<br />
_`erisionis~ erisionis~ 125 125 wlisTavs wlisTavs wlisTavs daemTxva daemTxva Tqveni Tqveni 75 75 wlis<br />
wlis<br />
iubilec. iubilec. iubilec. rogor rogor afasebT afasebT ganvlil ganvlil ganvlil wlebs,<br />
wlebs,<br />
moRvaweobas?<br />
moRvaweobas?<br />
moRvaweobas?<br />
_ bednieri var, rom myavs uaRresad didi<br />
megobrebi. bednieri var imiTac, rac gavakeTe.<br />
imaze meti bedniereba ra SeiZleba iyos,<br />
roca quCaSi gcnoben, gacqerdebian,<br />
gamoxataven siyvaruls da madlobas gixdian<br />
mokrZalebuli SromisTvis.<br />
vfiqrob, “erisionma” am wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi SeZlo, msofliosTvis eCvenebina<br />
da Seeyvarebina qarTuli kultura.<br />
_ _ batono batono jemal, jemal, gTxovT, gTxovT, oriode<br />
oriode<br />
sityva sityva sityva samomavlo samomavlo samomavlo gegmebzec gegmebzec gviTxraT.<br />
gviTxraT.<br />
_ gvsurs axali proeqtebis gakeTeba da,<br />
albaT, movaxerxebT raRacas. imedia, gamoCndeba sponsori,<br />
romelTanac 3-4 - wlian kontraqts gavaformebT. didi survili maqvs, es sponsori<br />
qarTveli iyos.<br />
axalgazrdebs gisurvebT, giyvardeT Tqveni samSoblo da gaufrTxildiT erTmaneTs.<br />
RmerTma gvarguna, rom gvyoloda iseTi didi adamiani, rogoric Cveni patriarqi, uwmindesi<br />
da unetaresi ilia meorea. movusminoT da davujeroT mas. gisurvebT warmatebebs!<br />
14<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
salome salome salome salome salome CavleiSvili,<br />
CavleiSvili,<br />
CavleiSvili,<br />
CavleiSvili,<br />
CavleiSvili,<br />
londa londa londa londa londa sabaniZe<br />
sabaniZe<br />
sabaniZe<br />
sabaniZe<br />
sabaniZe
Tanamedrove Tanamedrove Jurnalistika<br />
Jurnalistika<br />
Jurnalistika<br />
`media `media TviTonaa TviTonaa orientirebuli orientirebuli mogebaze mogebaze da da cdilobs<br />
cdilobs<br />
im im produqciis produqciis gamoSvebas, gamoSvebas, romelic romelic gasaRdeba...~<br />
gasaRdeba...~<br />
_ _ batono batono givi, givi, ras ras gulisxmobs gulisxmobs medi- medimedi- aeTika?<br />
aeTika?<br />
_ media es gaxlavT maRali tribuna, sadac<br />
Jurnalists moeTxoveba maRali normebis<br />
dacva, xolo eTika aris mecniereba, romelic<br />
adamianis qcevis wesebs Seiswavlis... mediaeTika ki is eTikuri normebia, romelTa dacva<br />
Jurnalists marTebs muSaobisas.<br />
_ _ Tavad Tavad Jurnalistebi Jurnalistebi dRes dRes dRes ramdenad ramdenad eTikurni eTikurni arian?<br />
arian?<br />
_ am mxriv Cveni Jurnalistika, rogorc ityvian, veraviTar kritikas ver uZlebs,<br />
magram amas ara imdenad Jurnalistebs davabralebdi, ramdenadac _ sazogadoebas. imitom<br />
rom Jurnalistebi gamodian sazogadoebis dakveTis Semsruleblebi, isini iseT produqcias<br />
qmnian, rogorzec moTxovnileba arsebobs sazogadoebaSi. xSirad Jurnalists romc ar<br />
surdes, iZulebulia daemorCilos am moTxovnilebas, anu media TviTonaa orientirebuli<br />
mogebaze da cdilobs gamouSvas is produqcia, romelic gasaRdeba. amitom Tavi da Tavi,<br />
mizezi imisa, rom Cveni Jurnalistebi eTikur normebs ar icaven, sazogadoebis dabali<br />
politikuri kulturis donea.<br />
_ _ ramdenad ramdenad humanurni humanurni arian arian arian Cveni Cveni Jurnalistebi?<br />
Jurnalistebi?<br />
_ _ ara mgonia, humanurobaSi CaeTvaloT Jurnalistebs, Wirisufals rom miadgebian da<br />
maT tragediaze dauwyeben gamokiTxvas...<br />
_ _ rogor rogor fiqrobT, fiqrobT, SeiZleba SeiZleba Tu Tu Tu ara, ara, rom rom media media gapiarebis gapiarebis saSualebad saSualebad iqces? iqces?<br />
iqces?<br />
da da am am am xerxs xerxs ramdenad ramdenad xSirad xSirad iyeneben?<br />
iyeneben?<br />
_ _ Zalian farTod iyeneben, yovelive es ar hgavs namdvil piars, namdvili piari ki<br />
gamoricxavs e.w. Savi piaris cnebas, rasac am SemTxvevaSi propagandas davarqmevdi, magram<br />
realurad piari, romelsac mediafurclebiT ewevian, es Savi piari anu propagandaa.<br />
_ _ rogor rogor rogor unda unda moiqces moiqces moiqces Jurnalisti, Jurnalisti, rom rom ar ar moeqces moeqces xelZRvanelobis xelZRvanelobis xelZRvanelobis gavlenis<br />
gavlenis<br />
qveS?<br />
qveS?<br />
_saqme is aris, rom realurad es problema arcerT qveyanaSi ar aris gadawyvetili,<br />
ufrosi dagavalebs da unda Seasrulo. amaze didi dafiqreba gvmarTebs, rom Jurnalisti<br />
iZulebuli ar iyos xelmZRvanelis arakanonier Tu araswor moTxovnebs daemorCilos.<br />
_ _ da da bolos, bolos, batono batono givi, givi, givi, ras ras gvirCevT gvirCevT gvirCevT momaval momaval Jurnalistebs?<br />
Jurnalistebs?<br />
_Tqven Tavisufali iqnebiT imdenad, ramdenadac mowodebis simaRleze idgebiT rogorc<br />
profesionalebi. Tu Tqven, rogorc profesionalebi, sustebi iqnebiT, maSin mogiwevT<br />
damcirebis atana uSualod ufrosebisgan, radgan winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, Tqven dagatovebineben<br />
samsaxurs da axali samsaxuris Sovna, dRevandeli yofa-cxovrebidan gamomdinare, advili<br />
ar aris... xolo Tu Zlieri iqnebiT, rogorc profesionalebi, Tqvengan moiTmenen<br />
principulobas. amitom gisurvebT kargad iswavloT da CamoyalibdeT profesionalebad da<br />
mkvidrad idgeT miwaze.<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen: esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen: nini nini nini nini nini qeTelauri,<br />
qeTelauri,<br />
qeTelauri,<br />
qeTelauri,<br />
qeTelauri,<br />
liza liza liza liza liza metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
15<br />
mediamedia warmoadgens warmoadgens `meoTxe `meoTxe xelisxelis-<br />
uflebas,~ uflebas,~ rasac rasac didi didi didi zegavlenis<br />
zegavlenis<br />
moxdenamoxdena SeuZlia SeuZlia sazogadoebriv sazogadoebriv azaz-<br />
rze.<br />
rze.<br />
vesaubrebiTvesaubrebiT Cvens Cvens leqtors, leqtors, propropro- fesor fesor givi givi kapanaZes, kapanaZes, romelmac<br />
romelmac<br />
romelmac<br />
mravalimravali naSromi naSromi miuZRvna miuZRvna medimedi-<br />
aeTikis aeTikis Temas.<br />
Temas.
1864 wels iliam Tavi daaneba quTaisis<br />
general-gubernatoris calke<br />
mindobilobaTa moxeleobas da duSeTSi<br />
daiwyo samsaxuri. droebiT gamoemSvidoba<br />
im sazogadoebriv saqmianobas, romelic<br />
man da misma megobrebma wamoiwyes.<br />
Mme-19 saukunis pirvel naxevarSi<br />
duSeTi ekonomikurad da kulturulad<br />
CamorCenili iyo. maSin qalaqs komisari<br />
ganagebda. samsaxuris dawyebisTanave, iliam<br />
duSelebis siyvaruli da pativiscema<br />
daimsaxura. iSviaTi iyo iseTi Sekreba,<br />
dReoba, naTloba Tu qorwili, sadac ilia<br />
meuRlesTan erTad ar yofiliyo. olRa<br />
guramiSvili xSirad ambobda: ase kargad<br />
da mxiarulad arsad gamitarebia dro,<br />
rogorc duSeTSio.<br />
damsxvreuli fanjrebi, CamoRebuli<br />
karebi, damtverili dokumentebi, es aris<br />
suraTi dRevandeli sasamarTlo Senobisa,<br />
romelSic ilia sxdomebs atarebda. ilias<br />
aq moRvaweobis erTaderTi niSani ezoSi<br />
SemorCenili biustia. ezo mofenilia<br />
gamousadegari sabuTebiT.<br />
Senobis momavali bediT dainteresebulebma<br />
duSeTis gamgeobas mivakiTxeT.<br />
Ggamgeblis TanaSemwem, qalbatonma nino<br />
nino<br />
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problema<br />
problema<br />
gadavarCinoT<br />
gadavarCinoT<br />
gadavarCinoT<br />
memorialuri<br />
memorialuri<br />
memorialuri<br />
Zegli! Zegli! Zegli!<br />
Zegli! Zegli!<br />
`me `me daniSnul daniSnul daniSnul viqmen viqmen momrigebel<br />
momrigebel<br />
Suakacad Suakacad duSeTs. duSeTs. duSeTs. momrigebel momrigebel momrigebel Suakacad<br />
Suakacad<br />
davyav davyav iq iq 1868w_mde, 1868w_mde, xolo xolo am am wels wels<br />
wels<br />
SemoiRes SemoiRes sasamarTlos sasamarTlos reforma reforma kavkasiaSi<br />
kavkasiaSi<br />
da da me me momandes momandes aRsruleba aRsruleba momrigebel<br />
momrigebel<br />
mosmarTlis mosmarTlis Tanamdebobis Tanamdebobis duSeTsave.<br />
duSeTsave.<br />
momrigebelmomrigebel mde~ mde~<br />
mde~<br />
mosamarTled mosamarTled mosamarTled viyav viyav 1874w1874w-<br />
xuciSvilma xuciSvilma gviTxra, rom Senoba gadaeca<br />
sasamarTlos. sasamarTloSi ki am faqts<br />
uaryofen.<br />
sajaro reestris TanamSromelma,<br />
batonma fridon fridon kbilcecxlaSvilma<br />
kbilcecxlaSvilma<br />
kbilcecxlaSvilma<br />
gangvimarta, rom SenobasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
or moqalaqes Soris dava mimdinareobs.<br />
duSeTis gazeTis redaqtorma mixeil<br />
mixeil<br />
WonqaZem WonqaZem duSeTis gamgebels zurab<br />
zurab<br />
wyaroaSvils wyaroaSvils wyaroaSvils Segvaxvedra<br />
Segvaxvedra<br />
Segvaxvedra..... masTan<br />
saubarisas gavigeT, rom Senoba<br />
saxelmwifos ar ekuTvnis. mesakuTris<br />
vinaoba ki jerjerobiT gaurkvevelia.<br />
simarTle giTxraT, davibeniT.<br />
gvsurs sasamarTlos Senobis aRdgenasa<br />
da SenarCunebaze vizrunoT, magram ver<br />
gavigeT vis mivmarToT, rogor mivaRwioT<br />
mizans. imedia, Senobis mesakuTre male<br />
gairkveva da is mogvcems saSualebas,<br />
Cvenc SevitanoT wvlili didi ilia<br />
marTlis saxelTan dakavSirebuli<br />
memorialuri Zeglis gadarCenaSi.<br />
Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna Tamuna ianvaraSvili,<br />
ianvaraSvili,<br />
ianvaraSvili,<br />
ianvaraSvili,<br />
ianvaraSvili,<br />
qeTi qeTi qeTi qeTi qeTi ebitaSvili,<br />
ebitaSvili,<br />
ebitaSvili,<br />
ebitaSvili,<br />
ebitaSvili,<br />
nodar nodar nodar nodar nodar CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe, CxaiZe,<br />
dodo dodo dodo dodo dodo alieva alieva alieva alieva alieva
TavSesafari<br />
TavSesafari<br />
ar ar daviviwyoT, daviviwyoT, rom rom Cvenc Cvenc davberdebiT!<br />
davberdebiT!<br />
cxovrebis cxovrebis siduxWiris siduxWiris Tu Tu xelovnurad xelovnurad Seqmnil Seqmnil Semaviwroebel<br />
Semaviwroebel<br />
Semaviwroebel<br />
garemoebaTa garemoebaTa gamo, gamo, gamo, TiTqmis TiTqmis yoveldRiurad yoveldRiurad TavSesafrebSi TavSesafrebSi moxucebulTa<br />
moxucebulTa<br />
ricxvi ricxvi izrdeba.<br />
izrdeba.<br />
`Tu `Tu TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi moxvdebi, moxvdebi, moxvdebi, ese ese igi igi `raRac~ `raRac~ gawuxebs,~ gawuxebs,~ gawuxebs,~ – – gviTxra<br />
gviTxra<br />
asociacia asociacia `kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ prezidentis prezidentis moadgilem, moadgilem, qalbatonma qalbatonma guliko<br />
guliko<br />
romaniSvilma.<br />
romaniSvilma.<br />
ra ra igulisxmeba igulisxmeba igulisxmeba sityva sityva `wuxilSi?~ `wuxilSi?~ ra ra ra awuxebT awuxebT Ria Ria cis cis qveS qveS darCenilT,<br />
darCenilT,<br />
axloblis axloblis ZaldatanebiTa ZaldatanebiTa ZaldatanebiTa Tu Tu Tu sakuTari sakuTari surviliT surviliT TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi moxvedril<br />
moxvedril<br />
moxucebulebs?<br />
moxucebulebs?<br />
`kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ prezidentis prezidentis moadgilis moadgilis TqmiT, TqmiT, sakvebiTa sakvebiTa da da samedicino<br />
samedicino<br />
samedicino<br />
momsaxureobiT momsaxureobiT 385 385 moxucs moxucs uzrunvelyofen. uzrunvelyofen. maTgan maTgan maTgan Tormeti Tormeti moxuci<br />
moxuci<br />
TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi cxovrobs cxovrobs da da Tavs Tavs komfortulad komfortulad grZnobs.<br />
grZnobs.<br />
am am da da sxva sxva sakiTxze sakiTxze sakiTxze gTavazobT gTavazobT intervius intervius asociacia asociacia `kaTarzisis~<br />
`kaTarzisis~<br />
prezidentis prezidentis moadgilesTan, moadgilesTan, qalbaton qalbaton guliko guliko romaniSvilTan romaniSvilTan da<br />
da<br />
`kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ erT-erT erT-erT erT-erT binadarTan, binadarTan, binadarTan, qalbaton qalbaton qalbaton naTela naTela naTela gegiasTan. gegiasTan.<br />
gegiasTan.<br />
guliko guliko romaniSvili:<br />
romaniSvili:<br />
_ _ arsebobs arsebobs TavSesafrebi, TavSesafrebi, sadac sadac mZime<br />
mZime<br />
kategoriis kategoriis moxucebi, moxucebi, gonebrivad gonebrivad Tu<br />
Tu<br />
fizikurad fizikurad SezRudulebi SezRudulebi hyavT. hyavT. Tqven Tqven<br />
Tqven<br />
romeli romeli romeli kategoriis kategoriis moxucebs<br />
moxucebs<br />
moxucebs<br />
emsaxurebiT?<br />
emsaxurebiT?<br />
_ Tu mxolod TavSesafars gulisxmobT -<br />
aseTebi CvenTan ar arian, Cven garkveuli<br />
SezRudva davaweseT momvlelebze. fufunebaSi<br />
mcxovreb organizaciebs ar gavekuTvnebiT da<br />
arc finansur simsuyes ganvicdiT. amitom<br />
ver vuxdiT iseT xelfasebs, rom aseTi<br />
kategoriis moxucebs moemsaxuron.<br />
_ _ Tqvens Tqvens TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi mxolod<br />
mxolod<br />
jansaRi jansaRi gonebis gonebis xandazmulebi<br />
xandazmulebi<br />
binadroben?<br />
binadroben?<br />
_ jansaRi gonebis, anu saRi gonebis adamianebi, romlebic ojaxuri problemebis gamo<br />
darCnen umweod. es iyo an ojaxuri konfliqti, an finansuri problemebi an kidev raRac<br />
sxva. quCaSi aRmoCenili aseTi moxucebi cxovroben CvenTan. yvela maTgani saR gonebazea.<br />
sakuTar Tavs damoukideblad emsaxurebian. TavSesafris garda, sxva kategoriis 365<br />
moxucic gvyavs. isini axerxeben Cvenamde mosvlas da sakvebis miRebas. daaxloebiT 10<br />
xandazmuli mwoliarea. isini Sin arian da maT TveSi erTxel mSral produqts vugzavniT.<br />
_ _ ra ra awuxebT awuxebT yvelaze yvelaze metad metad moxucebs moxucebs moxucebs da da rogor rogor exmarebiT exmarebiT maT? maT?<br />
maT?<br />
_ Tuki `kaTarzisSi~ moxvdebi, es ukve niSnavs, rom raRac gawuxebs finansurad,<br />
sulierad, moralurad, fizikurad.... aq maT eqimi hyavT, romelic yoveldRe emsaxurebaT.<br />
Tu saWiroeba moiTxovs, maT saavadmyofoebSi da samedicino centrebSi vagzavniT.<br />
medikamentebsac gvCuqnian, sakmao raodenoba movimarageT, vcdilobT moxucebs xeli<br />
gavumarToT. isini Tavad erTmaneTTan megobroben, sawuxars uziareben, erTmaneTs exidebian.<br />
am saxlSi ara marto fizikur danakliss ivseben, aramed - suliersac. `patara ufliswulidan~<br />
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viciT, rom erTmaneTs unda SeveSveloT, rom<br />
es sulieri tvirTi vzidoT. amis magaliTi<br />
aq meordeba.<br />
_ _ televiziiT televiziiT televiziiT xSirad xSirad gvsmenia<br />
gvsmenia<br />
`kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ SemoqmedebiT SemoqmedebiT cxovrebaze.<br />
cxovrebaze.<br />
xSirad xSirad tardeba tardeba saqvelmoqmedo<br />
saqvelmoqmedo<br />
koncertebi koncertebi da da idgmeba idgmeba speqtaklebi.<br />
speqtaklebi.<br />
ramden ramden xanSi xanSi erTxel erTxel ulamazdebaT<br />
ulamazdebaT<br />
xandazmulebs xandazmulebs cxovrebis<br />
cxovrebis<br />
yoveldRiuroba? yoveldRiuroba? da da rogor rogor emzadebian<br />
emzadebian<br />
aseTi aseTi aseTi saRamoebisTvis?<br />
saRamoebisTvis?<br />
_ Cven gvyavs reJisori, batoni ilia<br />
niSnianiZe, romelic Zalian energiuli da<br />
aqtiuria. igi maTTan muSaobs, Teatraluri<br />
dasi, xandazmulTa gundi daarsda, romelic<br />
simRerebze muSaobs. axali speqtakli<br />
`gamoketili WiSkari~ idgmeba. weliwadSi<br />
ramdenime, sam-oTx warmodgenas mainc marTaven.<br />
es seriozuli namuSevaria.<br />
fizikuri sazrdos garda maTi sulieri<br />
sazrdo Teatria. SeiZleba arc erTi<br />
Tqvengani arasodes mdgara scenaze, magram<br />
am asakSi isini SesaniSnavad TamaSoben, aseve,<br />
gundSi mRerian. aqvT gasvliTi GsaRamoebi,<br />
skolebSic atareben koncertebs, vcdilobT,<br />
sxvadasxva organizaciebs maTi namuSevrebi<br />
gavacnoT.<br />
naTela naTela gegia, gegia, `kaTarzisis~ `kaTarzisis~ erT- erT- erT- erT- erT-<br />
erTi erTi binadari: binadari:<br />
binadari:<br />
_ _ rogor rogor cxovrobdiT cxovrobdiT aq aq mosvlamde<br />
mosvlamde mosvlamde?<br />
_ Tbiliseli var, veraze gazrdili.<br />
Zalian didi xnis ganmavlobaSi veraze<br />
vcxovrobdi. 37 wlidan saburTaloze<br />
vcxovrobdi, mqonda Zalian kargi ojaxi. myavs<br />
erTi Svili – biWi, rZali, SviliSvilebi,<br />
daxunZluli ojaxi mqonda. magram male<br />
meuRle gardamecvala. gaWirvebam gagvayidina<br />
bina da iZulebuli viyavi, sxva saarsebo gza<br />
momeZebna. Cemi Svili, ojaxis yvela wevri<br />
amJamad umuSevaria, da me movZebne ai es gza,<br />
vifiqre, rom es yvelaze kargi iqneboda<br />
CemTvis. axalgazrdebs mainc TavisTvis undaT<br />
cxovreba, sxvanairi mentaliteti aqvT.<br />
swori giTxraT, me manamde ar vicodi<br />
sad iyo `kaTarzisi,~ Tu arsebobda<br />
moxucebulTa saxli. CemTvis es srulad ucxo<br />
iyo. Cemma megobarma ise aRmiwera es saTnoebis<br />
saxli, rom me erT kviraSi movedi aq. ukve<br />
sami welia aq vcxovrob, sxvagan cxovreba<br />
verc warmomidgenia.<br />
_ _ rodesac rodesac Tqvenma Tqvenma Tqvenma Svilma Svilma gaigo<br />
gaigo<br />
Tqveni Tqveni gadawyvetilebis gadawyvetilebis Taobaze, Taobaze, maleve<br />
maleve<br />
dagTanxmdaT?<br />
dagTanxmdaT?<br />
dagTanxmdaT?<br />
18<br />
_ es gadawyvetileba rom miviRe, Cemi<br />
Svili ruseTSi imyofeboda. ojaxis Senaxvas<br />
cdilobda, magram saqme saxarbielod ar<br />
wauvida. umuSevari darCa, Camovida da<br />
kombinatSi, fqvilis qarxanaSi cxovrobs. iq<br />
aqvs patara kuTxe, sadac sZinavs. ase rom,<br />
Cems gadawyvetilebaze igi uars ver ityoda,<br />
mis ardaTanxmebas azri ar hqonda. axla Svili<br />
makiTxavs. bina ar aqvs, Torem namdvilad<br />
masTan viqnebodi. yvela mSobels unda, rom<br />
Svili axlos hyavdes.<br />
_ _ qalbatono qalbatono naTela, naTela, ra ra uflebebiT<br />
uflebebiT<br />
sargeblobT sargeblobT sargeblobT da da kmayofili kmayofili Tu Tu xarT xarT<br />
xarT<br />
yvelafriT, yvelafriT, rac rac Tqvens Tqvens axal axal samyofelSi<br />
samyofelSi<br />
xdeba?<br />
xdeba?<br />
_ Cveni uflebebi ar irRveva. me, piradad,<br />
20 oqtombers 80 weli Semisrulda. rom<br />
gcodnodaT, moxvidodiT da naxavdiT, rogor<br />
damasaCuqra kaTarzisma, SesaniSnavi Taiguli<br />
da torti momarTva, uzarmazari sufra<br />
gaiSala.<br />
moxucebi aq erTmaneTs sicocxles<br />
vuxangrZlivebT. SeiZleba saxlSi daxunZluli<br />
iyo SvilebiT da SviliSvilebiT, magram Seni<br />
wlovanebis xalxTan yofna cxovrebas<br />
gacilebiT giadvilebs. aq qvelmoqmedebis<br />
wyalobiT yvelaferi gvaqvs. Cvenze zrunaven,<br />
pativs gvcemen da gvaxareben.<br />
_ ra ra genatrebaT genatrebaT da da raze raze gwydebaT<br />
gwydebaT<br />
guli guli yvelaze yvelaze metad? metad?<br />
metad?<br />
_ guli mwydeba imaze, rom SeiZleba bevri<br />
Secdoma davuSvi cxovrebaSi, Svilis Tu<br />
SviliSvilebis aRzrdaSi. SeiZleba Secdoma<br />
davuSvi imiT, rom Zalian lmobieri viyavi.<br />
daTmoba miyvarda. sjobda, ufro mkacri<br />
vyofiliyavi. magram iciT, Zalian bevri sikeTe<br />
davTese. arasodes marto ar misadilia da<br />
damiZinia. Cemi saxlis kari yovelTvis Ria
iyo da mas sastumros da restorans eZaxdnen.<br />
ase micxovria qveyanaze.<br />
_ _ genatrebaT genatrebaT warsuli, warsuli, warsuli, urTierToba<br />
urTierToba<br />
im im xalxTan, xalxTan, visac visac icnobdiT<br />
icnobdiT icnobdiT?<br />
_ SeuZlebelia adamianma uwarsulod<br />
icxovros, magram namdvilad ar menatreba<br />
is warsuli, Cems qmarTan erTad rom 50<br />
wlis winaT SeZenili saqoneli saxlidan<br />
gamqonda - patara skamze vijeqi, saxeze Savi<br />
mqonda Camofarebuli da vyiddi Wiqas, sains,<br />
oqros, vercxls. ase virCendiT Tavs.<br />
wuwuniT ar vityvi, rom aRmovCndi<br />
TavSesafarSi. albaT, uflis wyaloba iyo,<br />
rom TavSesafarSi movxvdi.<br />
_ _ ukacravad, ukacravad, ukacravad, magram magram Tqvens<br />
Tqvens<br />
cxovrebaSi, cxovrebaSi, vinmes vinmes xom xom ar ar daaviwyda<br />
daaviwyda<br />
rom rom hyavs hyavs sayvareli sayvareli moxuci moxuci bebia?<br />
bebia?<br />
_ daaviwyda Cems disSvils, romelic me<br />
gavzarde mas Semdeg, rac mama gardaecvala.<br />
man momiyvana aq da man aiRo pasuxismgebloba<br />
Cemze. dRes Cemi disSvilebi kargad<br />
19<br />
cxovroben, erTi germaniaSia, erTic _<br />
saqarTveloSi, magram binis problema aqvT.<br />
vinmem rom wamiyvanos, SeiZleba Cemi Svilis<br />
sawols gverdze mivudga sawoli, magram<br />
sawols ver mivdgam disSvilis qmris gverdiT.<br />
Cems disSvils aRar axsovs sakuTari deida,<br />
arada, megona, Cems Svils dobas gauwevda.<br />
_ _ ras ras etyodiT etyodiT im im moxucebulebs,<br />
moxucebulebs,<br />
romlebic romlebic Tqvengan Tqvengan gansxvavebiT, gansxvavebiT, cud<br />
cud<br />
pirobebSi pirobebSi pirobebSi imyofebian, imyofebian, imyofebian, Tundac Tundac sakuTar<br />
sakuTar<br />
saxlSi, saxlSi, sakuTari sakuTari Svilis Svilis gverdiT,<br />
gverdiT,<br />
Tundac Tundac _ _ gareT, gareT, quCaSi, quCaSi, siciveSi,<br />
siciveSi,<br />
marto, marto, marto, mitovebulni mitovebulni yvelasgan.<br />
yvelasgan.<br />
yvelasgan.<br />
_ quCaSi, siciveSi mitovebuli moxucebi<br />
mecodebian. kargia saTnoebis saxli, magram<br />
TavSesafari ramdens eyofa? Zalian momravlda<br />
TavSesafardarCenili xalxi quCaSi.<br />
axalgazrdebs vTxovdi, rom uyvardeT<br />
moxucebi, da moxucebsac vetyodi, rom gaugon<br />
axalgazrdebs.<br />
veWvobT, veWvobT, veWvobT, rom rom Cveni Cveni respodenti, respodenti, qalbatoni qalbatoni naTela naTela naTela ar ar iyo iyo bolomde bolomde gulaxdili.<br />
gulaxdili.<br />
Svilze Svilze da da da SviliSvilebze SviliSvilebze SviliSvilebze gadayolili, gadayolili, gadayolili, cxovrebas cxovrebas axloblebisgan axloblebisgan moSorebiT,<br />
moSorebiT,<br />
TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi TavSesafarSi agrZelebs. agrZelebs. nuTu nuTu sayvareli sayvareli moxucisTvis moxucisTvis ar ar moiZebna moiZebna patara patara adgili adgili<br />
adgili<br />
maT maT gvediT?..<br />
gvediT?..<br />
nu nu nu mivuxuravT mivuxuravT `saxlis `saxlis kars” kars” moxucebulebs, moxucebulebs, Cvens Cvens mSoblebsa mSoblebsa Tu Tu papa-bebiebs.<br />
papa-bebiebs.<br />
ar ar ar daviviwyoT, daviviwyoT, rom rom Cvenc Cvenc Cvenc davberdebiT!<br />
davberdebiT!<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
esaubrnen:<br />
mariam mariam mariam lorTqifaniZe,<br />
lorTqifaniZe,<br />
salome salome gelaSvili<br />
gelaSvili<br />
niko niko firosmanaSvilis firosmanaSvilis dabruneba<br />
dabruneba<br />
1911 wlis 26 ivnisi qarTuli sazogadoebisTvis dauviwyari aRmoCnda.<br />
pirveli mizezi is gaxldaT, rom am dRes qarTveli xalxi cnobil<br />
sazogado moRvawes, qvelmoqmedsa da mecenats daviT sarajiSvils<br />
miacilebda ukanasknel gzaze. meorea is, rom es dRe qarTuli<br />
kinematografiis sawyisia. filmi, romelic daviT sarajiSvilis<br />
dakrZalvas eZRvneba, ori wliT uswrebs ,,akakis mogzaurobas raWaleCxumSi.~@<br />
sarajiSvilis Sesaxeb gadaRebulma kinofilmma sxva mxrivac miipyro<br />
yuradReba. masSi ramdenime xnis ganmavlobaSi Cans pirovneba, romelic<br />
Zlier waagavs niko firosmansaSvils. Tavis droze, am faqtTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, akademikosma Salva amiranaSvilma Seqmna komisia, romelsac<br />
firze aRbeWdili piris vinaoba unda daedgina. saboloo sityvis Tqma wilad xvda cnobil<br />
qarTvel mxatvars lado gudiaSvils, romelic ramdenjerme Sexvda firosmans da kargad<br />
axsovda igi. gudiaSvilma daadastura, rom kadrSi arsebuli pirovneba nikala iyo. am azrs<br />
xelovnebaTmcodneebis nawili dRemde ar iziarebs da miaCniaT, rom, WeSmaritebis dasadgenad,<br />
aucilebelia anTropologiuri eqspertizis Catareba.<br />
nodar nodar nodar nodar nodar CxaiZe. CxaiZe. CxaiZe.<br />
CxaiZe. CxaiZe.
axali axali proeqti<br />
proeqti<br />
diRomSi diRomSi bavSvTa bavSvTa saxli saxli 1978 1978 wels wels dafuZnda.<br />
dafuZnda.<br />
manamde manamde igi, igi, 50 50 wlis wlis manZilze, manZilze, vakeSi<br />
vakeSi<br />
funqcionirebda. funqcionirebda. amJamad amJamad iq iq 6-dan 6-dan 18 18 wlamde wlamde asakis<br />
asakis<br />
53 53 bavSvia. bavSvia. erTi erTi SexedviT, SexedviT, bavSvTa bavSvTa saxlSi<br />
saxlSi<br />
mdgomareoba mdgomareoba normaluria: normaluria: euflebian euflebian sxvadasxva<br />
sxvadasxva<br />
sxvadasxva<br />
xelobas, xelobas, xelobas, iReben iReben ganaTlebas, ganaTlebas, metnaklebad<br />
metnaklebad<br />
uzrunvelyofili uzrunvelyofili arian arian arian jandacviT, jandacviT, monawileoben<br />
monawileoben<br />
sxvadasxva sxvadasxva RonisZiebaSi, RonisZiebaSi, RonisZiebaSi, mzrunvelobamoklebul<br />
mzrunvelobamoklebul<br />
mzrunvelobamoklebul<br />
bavSvTa bavSvTa momsaxurebis momsaxurebis saagentos saagentos xelSewyobiT<br />
xelSewyobiT<br />
bavSvebi bavSvebi sxvadasxva sxvadasxva kurortzec kurortzec isveneben.<br />
isveneben.<br />
studentur studentur Jurnal Jurnal `binulis~ `binulis~ davalebiT davalebiT vesaubreT vesaubreT diRmis diRmis bavSvTa bavSvTa saxlis saxlis<br />
saxlis<br />
direqtors, direqtors, qalbaton qalbaton lela lela merabiSvils:<br />
merabiSvils:<br />
_ diRmis bavSvTa saxlSi 2007 wlidan var. winaswar ar viciT, ramden bavSvs dasWirdeba Cveni<br />
momsaxureba, magram maqsimum 80 bavSvis miReba SegviZlia. 18 wlis Semdeg, zogi bavSvi ojaxs<br />
ubrundeba, visac wasasvleli arsad aqvs, aq rCeba. sanam bavSvi 18 wlis gaxdeba, vcdilobT raRac<br />
xeloba SevaswavloT. mTavroba gvexmareba universitetSi Caricxul bavSvTa dafinansebaSi. bavSvebi<br />
dagvyavs zRvaze, mTaSi, gaaCnia periods, saaxalwlod gudaurSic aviyvaneT. drois deficits ar<br />
ganvicdi, yvela gvepatiJeba Tavis RonisZiebaze. pirvelebi gamovdivarT gareT, dawyebuli mTavrobis<br />
RonisZiebiT da damTavrebuli kinoTi da TeatriT. meriidan gvaqvs Zalian didi mxardaWera, davdivarT<br />
alilozec.<br />
garToba da dasveneba, marTlac, Zalian kargia, Tumca unda aRiniSnos, rom yvelaze didi problema<br />
diRmis bavSvTa saxlSi Senobis reabilitacia da keTilmowyobaa. bavSvTa saxlis aRmzrdeli Suqura<br />
jafariZe ambobs, rom centraluri gaTbobis arqonis gamo, zamTarSi mxolod denis quriT Tbebian. misi<br />
TqmiT, ukve mesame weli hpirdebian Senobis srul reabilitacias, Tumca dResdReobiT es problema<br />
gadauwyvetelia. aseve, did problemad rCeba abiturienti bavSvebisTvis swavlis safasuris gadaxda.<br />
damfinansebelTa raodenoba sakmaod mcirea. studentTa uzrunvelyofisTvis saxelmwifosgan meti<br />
daxmarebaa saWiro.<br />
mzrunvelobamoklebul bavSvTa momsaxurebis saagentos direqtoris moadgile bela bela gogua gogua: gogua<br />
`saxelmwifo kursi dResdReobiT aris, rom rac SeiZleba swrafad moxdes am dawesebulebis<br />
deinstitucionalizacia, anu saxelmwifos interesSi ar Sedis am Senobebis ganaxleba,<br />
garemonteba. gamomdinare iqidan, rom aseTi dawesebulebebi saerTod<br />
aRar unda arsebobdes. mTavaria, bavSvebs hqondeT<br />
elementaruli saarsebo pirobebi, vidre is,<br />
rom varemontoT da damatebiT davxarjoT Tanxa.”<br />
qalbatoni bela goguas gancxadebam Zalian<br />
gagvakvirva, Tu aseTi dawesebulebebi saerTod<br />
aRar iarsebebs, maSin ra bedi ewevaT<br />
usaxlkarod darCenil bavSvebs? es<br />
SekiTxvac davusviT qalbaton belas, Tumca man<br />
pasuxis gacemisgan Tavi Seikava.<br />
bavSvebma ki kiTxvaze, Tu raze<br />
ocneboben yvelaze me- tad, gvipasuxes, rom<br />
ojaxTan erTad cxovreba surT, Tumca<br />
umravlesobam Tqva, rom ocneba ar aqvT da araferi<br />
ar undaT. imis miuxedavad, rom bavSvebi sxvadasxva<br />
kurortze dahyavT da dros mxiarulad atarebineben, maT umravlesobas<br />
imedi daukargavs, isini aRarc ocneboben. msgavsi dawesebulebebis gauqmebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
isini minimaluripirobebis gareSec ki quCaSi, usaxlkarod darCebian.<br />
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bavSvebi, bavSvebi, romlebic<br />
romlebic<br />
aRar aRar ocneboben!<br />
ocneboben!
werili ukve dawerili gvqonda, roca SevityeT, rom saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
gadawyvetilebiT, mzrunvelobamoklebul bavSvTa saxlebi gauqmdeba. saubaria<br />
bavSvTa did saxlebze, sadac, saerTo jamSi, daaxloebiT aTasamde mozardi<br />
cxovrobs. axali reformiT, am tipis saxlebs bavSvis individualur saWiroebebze<br />
gaTvlili mcire saojaxo tipis momsaxureba Caanacvlebs. mTavrobis 101–e<br />
dadgenilebaSi ukve Setanilia danarTi am proeqtis Sesaxeb. axla ukve is aris<br />
saintereso, ramdenad gaamarTlebs es siaxle. socialuri momsaxurebis saagentos<br />
direqtoris moadgilis daviT dvaliZis TqmiT, proeqtze muSaoba seqtembris<br />
bolos dasruldeba. amJamad kerZo saxlebis Sesyidva da maTi saremonto samuSaoebi<br />
mimdinareobs. bavSvebisaTvis saxlebs ori msoflio organizacia yidulobs.<br />
daviT dvaliZis ganmartebiT, bavSvebis nawils mindobiT aRzrdaSi gadaiyvanen.<br />
vcdilobT, rac SeiZleba bevri bavSvi gadaviyvanoT mindobiT aRzrdaSi,<br />
darCenilebi ki saojaxo tipis bavSvTa saxlebSi gadanawildebiano. erT saxlSi<br />
8–10 bavSvi icxovrebs. mindobiTi aRzrdis msurvels naTesauri kavSiris SemTxvevaSi<br />
janmrTel bavSvze TveSi 200 lars gadauxdian. Tu aranaTesauri kavSiria, TveSi_<br />
450 lars da invalidi bavSvis SemTxvevaSi –TveSi 600 lars.<br />
sofo sofo asaniZe, asaniZe,<br />
asaniZe,<br />
lika lika amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
Cveni Cveni Cveni SemoqmedebiTi SemoqmedebiTi SemoqmedebiTi saxelosno<br />
saxelosno<br />
avtoportreti avtoportreti avtoportreti avtoportreti avtoportreti uniRbod uniRbod uniRbod uniRbod uniRbod<br />
„ai, SexedeT, is modis!” - maRali, welSi odnav moxrili, mudam Cafiqrebuli da erTob<br />
daRvremili figura modis, miuyveba mdumare quCas. raze fiqrobs igi, ra awuxebs mas?<br />
awuxebs? vin axsena sityva wuxili?! Tanac mesame pirSi... oh, kargiT, kargiT, vaRiareb, me<br />
vTqvi, rameTu es pirovneba me var. esec niRbis Camovardnis xma...<br />
mas Semdeg rac TxuTmeti weli Seusrulda, am adamianma (ho, yvelam viciT rom me var,<br />
magram es avad Tu kargad saxsenebeli mesame piri ratomRac arabunebrivi ZaliT mizidavs)<br />
ukuagdo iluziaTa mTeli korianteli da cxovrebiseuli realobis uRelSi Caeba.<br />
„karieristi” - es sityva tvinSi CaibeWda, „karieristi”- es sityva meobis simbolo<br />
gaxda. gaTenebuli Rameebi, Seuwyveteli muSaobisgan daRlil-gaxurebuli kompiuteri,<br />
monitorTan ki isev da isev is pirovneba zis, iTvisebs da iyenebs teqnikuri informaciis<br />
mozRvavebul raodenobas. dro ki, Cveulebisamebr Cqara da amave dros mSvidad, auRelveblad<br />
midis.<br />
Teqvsmeti weli da xuTi Tve. staJireba „iusticiis saministros qvemdebare iuridiuli<br />
daxmarebis samsaxurSi” - JRers, ara? bnel koridorebsa da veeba darbazebSi gatarebuli<br />
sami Tve, sami Tve mowodebis ZiebaSi. mowodeba ara da ar Canda, darbazebis idumal iers<br />
ki mxolod didroni serverebis guguni arRvevda. morCa, sakmarisia, wavediT aqedan!<br />
Cvidmeti weli. studia reportiori, „memontaJe da grafikosi” (isev JReradi<br />
„Tanamdeboba”). zogjer rva, zogjer TerTmet, Tormet, cametsaaTiani samuSao dRe. samontaJo<br />
magidas gadamRebi jgufi cvlis, gadamReb jgufs - Sori mogzauroba intervius asaRebad,<br />
intervius ki isev - samontaJo magida. rutina? ara, kaleidoskopi. saintereso kaleidoskopi.<br />
swored maSin moxda gardatexa Cveni personaJis pirovnebaSi, maSin, rodesac igi axal<br />
samuSao atmosferos ukvirdeboda. mowodeba aq Canda, aqve Canda gzac. vaSa, karieristis<br />
bairaRi amayad frialebs!<br />
magram yvelaferi jer kidev winaa, avtoportrets sisrulemde aTasi Strixi, aTasi<br />
detali da milionobiT emocia aklia. axla ki xelT mxolod patara etiudi gvaqvs.<br />
etiudi, zogjer bnel, zogjerac ki naTel ferebSi. wertili.<br />
21<br />
giorgi giorgi giorgi giorgi giorgi iaSvili<br />
iaSvili<br />
iaSvili<br />
iaSvili<br />
iaSvili
nugzar nugzar jiqia:<br />
jiqia:<br />
`ar `ar SemiZl SemiZlia SemiZl ia tyu tyuils tyu ils davemono...~<br />
davemono...~<br />
batoni batoni nugzar nugzar nugzar jiqia jiqia maTematikas maTematikas aswavlis aswavlis studentebs, studentebs, romlebic romlebic irwmunebian, irwmunebian, rom<br />
rom<br />
profesiaze profesiaze fanatikurad fanatikurad Seyvarebul Seyvarebul leqtors leqtors unari unari unari aqvs aqvs es es poeziad poeziad poeziad aqcios...<br />
aqcios...<br />
_ _ batono batono nugzar, nugzar, gvesaubreT gvesaubreT Temaze Temaze - - Tqven Tqven da da maTematika, maTematika, saidan saidan modis modis es es megobroba?<br />
megobroba?<br />
megobroba?<br />
_ adamiani Tavis cxovrebas yovelTvis profesias ukavSirebs. dedaCems, magaliTad, Zalian undoda<br />
misi sagvareulo tradicia gamegrZelebina da eqimi gavmxdariyavi _ skola kargad davamTavre da<br />
medali ar gaafuWoo, meubneboda. arasodes minania am specialobis arCeva. Jurnalistebs aseTi SekiTxva<br />
uyvarT: ras SecvlidiT, cxovrebis Tavidan dawyeba rom SegeZloTo... namdvilad arafers Sevcvlidi,<br />
vfiqrob, rom ar micxovria cudad.<br />
_ _ _ rogorc rogorc vici, vici, dasvenebis dasvenebis dReebSi dReebSi borjomSi borjomSi gakveTilebs gakveTilebs atarebT... atarebT...<br />
atarebT...<br />
_ ivane javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitets hqonda skola-liceumi, sadac<br />
Tavad universitetis profesorebi aswavlidnen. am liceumis kursdamTavrebulebi gamosaSvebi gamocdiT<br />
universitetis fasian seqtorze iricxebodnen. liceumma borjomSi filiali gaxsna. profesorebi nebasurviliT<br />
iqac Cadiodnen da gakveTilebs atarebdnen. Cemi urTierToba borjomis skolasTan aqedan<br />
iwyeba. ukve daaxloebiT 7_8 welia, yovel paraskevs borjomSi Cavdivar. vaswavli zogad unarebsa da<br />
maTematikas. vcdilob, riTic SemiZlia, bavSvebs yvelafriT davexmaro. cota xnis winaT gamovida Cemi<br />
wigni zogad unarebSi, romlis wardginebac borjomis liceumSi Sedga. tiraJi arc Tu ise didi iyo,<br />
wignebis umravlesobac Cems moswavleebs davurige...<br />
_ _ Cven Cven humanitarul humanitarul fakultetze fakultetze vswavlobT. vswavlobT. eTanxmebiT eTanxmebiT Tu Tu ara ara im im azrs, azrs, rom rom maTematika<br />
maTematika<br />
nebismier nebismier nebismier SemTxvevaSi SemTxvevaSi saWiroa saWiroa saWiroa CvenTvis?<br />
CvenTvis?<br />
_ vfiqrob, garkveul doneze maTematikis codna JurnalistebisTvis aucilebelic kia. ar vgulisxmob<br />
umaRles maTematikas, ufro logikur, Tanamimdevrul azrovnebas, romelic yvela karg Jurnalists<br />
unda axasiaTebdes. Secdomebic xSiria, magram xandaxan iseTi STabeWdileba meqmneba, TiTqos sityvebs<br />
specialurad amaxinjeben. gansakuTrebiT maTematikuri Secdomebi mxvdeba yurSi. es bunebrivicaa,<br />
yvela dargis specialisti, albaT, imaves ityvis Tavis saganze.<br />
_ _ Tqven, Tqven, erTi erTi SexedviT, SexedviT, mxiaruli mxiaruli adamiani adamiani CanxarT, CanxarT, yovelTvis yovelTvis giRimiT giRimiT saxe...rogor<br />
saxe...rogor<br />
saxe...rogor<br />
axerxebT axerxebT simSvidis simSvidis simSvidis SenarCunebasa SenarCunebasa da da iseTi iseTi STabeWdilebis STabeWdilebis STabeWdilebis Seqmnas, Seqmnas, Seqmnas, TiTqos TiTqos aranairi<br />
aranairi<br />
problema problema ar ar gawuxebT?<br />
gawuxebT?<br />
_ es, albaT, imis bralia, rom cudi gabrazeba vici. Tu gavbrazdi (es iSviaTad xdeba), Znelad<br />
davmSviddebi xolme. erTxel moxda ise, rom borjomSi bavSvebTan xmas avuwie. mere vuTxari: axla ra<br />
gamikeTeT, mTeli gza sanam Tbilisamde Caval, amaze unda vinerviulo-meTqi. aseT rames getyviT, roca<br />
adamiani, vTqvaT, qurdobs da amiT mdidrdeba, mTel cxovrebas SiSSi atarebs. imas ki, vinc Tavisi<br />
SromiT cxovrobs, Rame wynarad sZinavs. asevea tyuili _sicrues erTi Zalian cudi ram axasiaTebs.<br />
rasac moityueb, im wuTasve gaviwydeba, meore jerze ki axlis mofiqreba mogiwevs. me ar SemiZlia<br />
tyuils davemono. arasodes meSinia Cemi sityvebisa. erTma studentma samaxsovrod aseTi fraza<br />
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damiwera: ,,caSi monobas, jojoxeTSi mefoba mijobs.~ es cnobili fraza manamde ar gamegona. es<br />
sityvebi, albaT, Cemi xasiaTidan gamomdinare dawera, ar vici.<br />
_ _ Tqven Tqven Tqven Cveni Cveni dekani dekani iyaviT, iyaviT, Tumca Tumca maTematikas maTematikas ar ar ar gvaswavlidiT...rogoria gvaswavlidiT...rogoria profesori<br />
profesori<br />
nugzar nugzar jiqia jiqia leqciaze?<br />
leqciaze?<br />
leqciaze?<br />
_ movaleobad mimaCnia students avuxsna yvelaferi, rasac gTxovs, vupasuxo mis yvela SekiTxvas<br />
Tu, ra Tqma unda, es Cems kompetenciasa da SesaZleblobebSi Sedis. ris gakeTebasac ver SevZleb,<br />
students imas arasodes Sevpirdebi, magram Tuki davpirdi, sityvas aucileblad Sevasruleb.<br />
Tqveni dekani meore semestridan aRar var. problemebi yvelganaa, arsebobs garkveuli sakiTxebi,<br />
romlebsac principulobis gamo ver davTanxmdebi. CemTvis Zalian sasixaruloa is, rom CemTan<br />
intervius Cawera moisurveT.<br />
_ _ ras ras ras gvetyviT gvetyviT Cvens Cvens gazeTze gazeTze `studenturi `studenturi zona?~ zona?~ da da ras ras gvirCevdiT gvirCevdiT gvirCevdiT momavalSi?<br />
momavalSi?<br />
_ gazeTi momewona. vfiqrob, namdvilad kargi wamowyebaa. samomavlod girCevdiT, rom ufro meti<br />
weroT studentur cxovrebaze. gisurvebT, rom gazeTis stili daicvaT, esaubroT leqtorebs, aq<br />
momuSave personals da, ra Tqma unda, Tavad studentebs av-kargis Sesaxeb.<br />
pirvel yovlisa, emsaxureT simarTles. marTalia aseTi gamonaTqvami arsebobs: vinc ixdis, musikasac<br />
is ukveTavso, magram momavalSic Tqveni saTqmeli aucileblad TqviT; ecadeT, Tqven Tqveni mainc<br />
gaakeToT, nu SeuSindebiT imas, rom rasac dawerT, SeiZleba gazeTSi ar dagibeWdon. vinc ar dabeWdavs,<br />
es misi codva iqneba; magram aseTi Tqmac ar uSvelis saqmes: ,,me ki vTqvi da....” cota unda ibrZoloT<br />
kidec. kompromisebi,SeTanxmebebi saWiroa, magram daTmeT niuansebi da - ara mTavari. Semomdavebeli<br />
yovelTvis konkretul pozicias icavs, Tqven ki gaxsovdeT, rom ufro farTo asparezze ibrZviT.<br />
amitom daTmeT mciredi mTavari miznis misaRwevad.<br />
esaubra esaubra nino nino zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
e e r r i i s<br />
s<br />
sulieri<br />
sulieri<br />
energiis<br />
energiis<br />
pulsacia<br />
pulsacia<br />
23<br />
liza liza liza metrevelis<br />
metrevelis metrevelis foto<br />
foto<br />
wardgineba<br />
wardgineba<br />
saqarTvelos ilia WavWavaZis mwignobarTa asociacia (Tavmjdomare qalbatoni<br />
lia nadareiSvili) araerTi mamuliSviluri wamowyebis iniciatori da<br />
sulisCamdgmelia. es sazogadoeba TiTqos Cveni eris sulieri energiis pulsacias<br />
gamoxatavs.<br />
axlaxan Catarebuli prezentacia mainc uCveulo da gamorCeuli gaxldaT:<br />
xelxvaviani mecnieris, eruditis, mravalmxrivi talantiTa da uzRvavi<br />
SemoqmedebiTi energiiT, mecnieruli potencialiT dajildoebuli pirovnebis,<br />
Tbilisis mecnieruli da SemoqmedebiTi inteligencis gamorCeuli warmomadgenlis,<br />
araerTi akademiis akademikosis, iakob gogebaSvilis premiis laureatis, profesor<br />
revaz balanCivaZis erTdroulad ori wignis wardgineba gaimarTa: `anTropologiuri<br />
pedagogika~ ( `universali,~ 2011) da `filosofiuri da publicisturi werilebi~<br />
(`universali,~, 2011.).<br />
pirveli unikaluria novaciebiT; faqtobrivad, am axali da uaRresad saWiro,<br />
saintereso disciplinis Seqmnis pirveli<br />
warmatebuli cdaa qarTul pedagogiur<br />
mecnierebaSi. darbazSi msxdomma (fexze mdgommac!) sazogadoebam:<br />
qarTuli filosofiuri, fsiqologiuri, pedagogiuri, istoriuli<br />
da sxv. MmecnierebaTa rCeulma warmomadgenlobam, misma elitam<br />
maRali Sefaseba misca udaod unikalur naSroms.<br />
Aaseve, erTsulovani mowoneba da madliereba xvda wilad<br />
meore wignsac: `filosofiuri da publicisturi werilebi.~<br />
Ggarkveuli siamaye da imedic akiafda: Cvens urTules,<br />
kataklizmebiT, problemebiT dayursul droSi Tu aseTi rCeuli<br />
sazogadoebis wardgena SesZlo avtorma mkiTxvelis winaSe,<br />
Cans, arc ise cudadaa qveynis saqme, eri win miiwevs da hyavs<br />
sazogadoeba, romliTac SeuZlia gulwrfelad iamayos... am<br />
fonze damajereblad, optimisturad JRers avtoris winasityvaobis safinalo akordebi da mkiTxvelsac<br />
optimizmiT avsebs: `minda yvela (filosofosic da arafilosofosic, moxucic da axalgazrdac) kargad<br />
iyos! minda yvela qarTvels uyvardes erTmaneTi, upirvelesad ki mainc Cemi qveynis gamTlianeba da<br />
gabrwyineba msurs!<br />
RmerTo, Sen gadmoxede saqarTvelos!~
silamaze, silamaze, romelmac<br />
romelmac<br />
planetis planetis xuTive<br />
xuTive<br />
kontinenti kontinenti daipyro daipyro... daipyro ...<br />
`qarTveli xalxis geniam uxsovari droidan<br />
Seqmna ulamazesi cekvebi, aRfrTovanebiT rom<br />
aRiara Cveni planetis xuTive kontinentma,~<br />
- werda suxiSvilebis mematiane.<br />
saqarTvelos xalxuri cekvis<br />
damsaxurebulma ansamblma msoflios aRiareba<br />
moipova. msoflios presa, am udidesi ansamblis<br />
cekvebis xilvis Semdeg, ase gamoxatavda<br />
gaocebas: `qarTuli cekvis triumfi!~<br />
`ucnauri stumrebi fineTis napirebze...~<br />
`damabrmavebeli sanaxaoba!~ `qarTvelebma<br />
daipyres kopenhageni...~ `qarTvelebma Selewes<br />
samefo Teatris kari!~ `xedavT? da amaTTan<br />
kidev brZolas apireben!~ `ungreTs amis<br />
msgavsi araferi unaxavs...~ `fantastika!<br />
cecxli! eleqtroba!~ `saqarTvelov! mziuro<br />
saqarTvelov! mogesalmeba poloneTi...~<br />
`yvelaze ulamazesi cekvebi, rac ki uCvenebiaT<br />
parizSi,~ `teiloris ocneba - nino<br />
ramiSvilis cekva...~<br />
es im statiebis mciredi CamonaTvalia,<br />
romlebic xotbas asxamda qarTul `sabaleto<br />
xelovnebas,~ rogorc mas grigol robaqiZem<br />
uwoda, rodesac 1962 wels daeswro koncerts.<br />
maSin daweril statiaSi suxiSvilebi<br />
sabaleto xelovnebis ostatebad moixsenia.<br />
1959 wels londonSi ambobdnen: `da maSin,<br />
rodesac quCebSi yovelgvari moZraoba<br />
Sewyvetili iyo, ori dedofali Sexvda<br />
erTmaneTs (nino ramiSvili da elisabed II).~<br />
es iyo qarTveli eris kulturis udidesi<br />
gamarjveba, qarTuli cekva msoflios<br />
yuradRebis centrSi moeqca...<br />
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`...axla, roca amdeni weli gavida, vfiqrob,<br />
Cems cxovrebaSi, iseve rogorc Cveni ansamblis<br />
TavgadasavalSi, kacma yvelaferi SeiZleba<br />
dainaxos: aRmafrenac da imedgacruebac,<br />
katorRuli Sromac da lxinic, uangaro<br />
megobrobac da komerciac, dardic da<br />
politikac ki, magram CemTvis da ninosTvis<br />
yvelaze mTavari yovelTvis TviTon cekva iyo.<br />
cekva ki sxva araferia Tu ara musikis ritmSi<br />
moZraobis Tandayolili survili, romelic<br />
yvela adamians aqvs, CvenTvis mTavari iyo im<br />
ritmebis amocnoba, im moZraobis povna da<br />
daxvewa, romlebsac qarTuli, kavkasiuri<br />
modgmis winaprebma jer kidev uxsovar droSi<br />
miagnes. am ritmebma da ileTebma saukuneebi<br />
gamoiara, gauZlo ganadgurebas, daviwyebas,<br />
ucxo gavlenebs da dRemde moaRwia.<br />
es ritmebi da ileTebi, is Zvirfasi saSeni<br />
masalaa, risganac Cven Tanamedrove qarTul<br />
qoreografias vaSenebdiT da cekvebs<br />
vqmnidiT...~- werda iliko suxiSvili<br />
mogonebebSi.<br />
qarTulma saocrebam Tavad sabWoTa<br />
kavSiris lideri stalinic moxibla da<br />
aacremla, es maSin momxdara, rodesac<br />
stalinTan stumrad miwveul ninosa da ilikos<br />
lekuri ucekviaT: `stalini adga magididan,<br />
wreSi Semovida, taSs gvikravda da ise<br />
gviyurebda. Semdeg cxvirsaxoci amoiRo da<br />
cremlebi moiwminda,~ - ixsenebda iliko<br />
suxiSvili, nino ki dasZenda: `Cemi TvaliT<br />
rom ar menaxa, albaT, Znelad Tu
direqtorma brZana: `students unda<br />
axsovdes, rom kavkasiis<br />
saerTaSoriso universiteti misi<br />
saamayo ojaxia~<br />
vaxtang wivwivaZe
davijerebdio.~ Semdeg stalins iliko<br />
suxiSvilisTvis sakuTari foto uCuqebia<br />
warweriT: `iliko suxiSvils ioseb<br />
stalinisgan. moskovi, kremli. 21 ianvari.~<br />
`qarTuli baleti Camovida CvenTan, raTa<br />
daipyros Jeneva,~- werda sakdesis<br />
mimomxilveli: `Jeneva, marTlac, dapyrobil<br />
iqna. samiaTas xuTas kaciani, gadaWedili<br />
sportis sasaxle wuxelis aRfrTovanebiT<br />
ukravda taSs saxelganTqmul mocekvaveebs.<br />
mayurebeli didxans ar uSvebda msaxiobebs<br />
scenidan...~<br />
gazeTi `de darapo ruJi~ ase gamoexmaura<br />
ansamblis premieras briuselSi: `...darbazSi<br />
teva ar iyo, Tumca am ansambls kargad icnobda<br />
mayurebeli!~<br />
gazeTi `le pepli~ ki aCqarebda<br />
belgielebs enaxaT, `ganumeorebeli~ qarTuli<br />
cekva: `iCqareT qarTvelebis naxva, radgan<br />
male isini Tavisi ocnebis bedaurebs<br />
moevlebian zurgze da gaquslaven Sors, Sors,<br />
raTa sxva qvynebi daatyvevon.~ da, marTlac,<br />
albaT ar arsebobs adgili, sadac<br />
suxiSvilebs fexi ar daedgaT da cecxlovani<br />
cekviT mayurebeli ar aRefrTovanebinaT.<br />
qarTuli xalxuri geniis momxiblavma,<br />
warmtacma cekvebma `daimona~ da moajadova<br />
Cveni planetis samocdaaTze meti qveyana,<br />
samasze meti qalaqi, msoflios qoreografiis<br />
recenzentTa da ucxoel qarTvelTmcodne<br />
moRvaweTa msjelobis sagani gaxda qarTuli<br />
xalxuri cekvebi - cekvebi, romlebsac<br />
msoflio taSs ukravs...<br />
liza liza liza liza liza metreveli,<br />
metreveli,<br />
metreveli,<br />
metreveli,<br />
metreveli,<br />
nini nini nini nini nini qeTelauri<br />
qeTelauri<br />
qeTelauri<br />
qeTelauri<br />
qeTelauri<br />
25<br />
werili werili lukas<br />
lukas<br />
Zalian male, sul raRac 3 TveSi xelSi<br />
agiyvan da gulSi Cagikrav, Cemo patara. axla 6<br />
Tvis orsuli var, magram ucxoebi verc amCneven<br />
amas.<br />
patara muceli maqvs, Tumca iseTi mosvenari<br />
xar ukve, rom arc maZineb xolme. ar gegonos,<br />
rom ar msiamovnebs da mawuxeb. ara, piriqiT,<br />
ubednieresi var, roca Sens moZraobas vgrZnob.<br />
Cems sixaruls iziareb da CemTan erTad gadagaqvs<br />
cudi dReebi. vici, gesmis, roca gelaparakebi da<br />
geferebi. grZnob, rogor uyvarxar yvelas:<br />
rogorc ki Senze viwyeb laparaks, mucelSi<br />
iwyeb bodials, iberebi da adgils veRar poulob.<br />
dedas gavxar, mec Zalian miyvars mofereba.<br />
agvistos bolos moevlinebi qveyanas. Zalian<br />
miyvars weliwadis es droc da Tvec. mec xom<br />
agvistoSi maqvs dabadebis dRe? ici, ramdeni<br />
adamiani gelodeba? mamaSeni, me, deidebi, biZiebi,<br />
Seni momavali naTliebi sulmouTqmelad<br />
gelodebiT, rodis daibadebi, rodis gavigonebT<br />
Sens xmas, rodis davinaxavT da SevexebiT Sens<br />
patara Tvalebs, tuCebs, cxvirs, pawawina TiTebs<br />
rodis CavikravT gylSi da getyviT, rom Zalian<br />
gviyvarxar.<br />
saxeli SegirCieT ukve me da mamikom: luka.<br />
xom mogwons? bavSvobidan vambobdi, Svils luka<br />
unda davarqva -meTqi. mere daiko rom geyoleba,<br />
Tu ginda, Sen daarqvi saxeli. yoveldRe<br />
mesizmrebi, im dRidan, rac gavige, rom orsulad<br />
var. gamoRviZeba ar minda xolme: bevrs geferebi,<br />
gkocni da gulSi gikrav, Sen ki patara, cimcima<br />
TvalebiT miRimi da ase mibruneb siyvarulsa da<br />
siTbos.<br />
werils ver vamTavreb, sul minda, sanam<br />
daibadebi, sityvebiT mogefero, bevri ram giTxra<br />
da mogiyve. mTeli Rame SemiZlia vwero Senze.<br />
amitom dReisaTvis kmara, danarCens, rom daibadebi,<br />
maSin getyvi, mTeli cxovreba xom win gvaqvs?!<br />
minda, iyo bednieri, warmatebuli da mosiyvarule.<br />
keTili da saTno. ar SeuSinde aravis da arafers.<br />
minda aisrulo yvelaferi, risi survilic geqneba.<br />
yvela dagexmarebiT, gansakuTrebiT me da mama,<br />
rom miaRwio imas, rac ginda.<br />
miyvarxar Zalian.<br />
dediko dediko<br />
dediko<br />
nino nino nino qoiava<br />
qoiava
saswavlo-SemecnebiTi saswavlo-SemecnebiTi turi<br />
turi<br />
kavkasiis saerTaSoriso universitetis<br />
xelmZRvanelobam gadawyvita meore kursis<br />
biznesis fakultetis menejmentis specialobis<br />
studentebisTvis gasvliTi turi moewyo,<br />
romlis paralelurad Catarda studentTa<br />
samecniero konferencia da naSromebi aWaris<br />
ulamazes garemoSi ganixiles. baTumis `turistuli<br />
gamofena-bazrobis~ CarCoSi studentebisTvis<br />
gankuTvnili saswavlo-<br />
SemecnebiTi turis mizani iyo gantvir-<br />
Tvac da Semecnebac.<br />
ideis avtori iyo<br />
kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
universitetis<br />
biznesis fakultetis<br />
sruli<br />
profesori, biznesis<br />
fakultetis u m a R l e s i<br />
saganmanaTleblop r o g r a m e b i s<br />
xelmZRvaneli Tamar qoblianiZe; studentebTan<br />
erTad imyofebodnen: kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
universitetis personalis marTvisa da<br />
saqmiswarmoebis departamentis ufrosi,<br />
biznesis fakultetis asistent-profesori:<br />
Tamar inasariZe, medicinis fakultetis<br />
asistent-profesori nana janaSia.<br />
studentebi da sainiciativo jgufis<br />
wevrebi Ramis reisiT CaqvSi gaemgzavrnen<br />
da zRvispira ulamazes saxlSi dasaxldnen,<br />
sadac maT sruli komforti da Tavisufleba<br />
hqondaT, uzrunvelyofili iyvnen kvebiT.<br />
proeqtis miznebi iyo: turizmis sferoSi<br />
saqarTvelos erT-erTi wamyvani regionis<br />
ekosistemisa da sazRvao akvatoriis Seswavla;<br />
qobuleTis daculi teritoriisa da mtiralas<br />
parkis gacnobda; baTumis turistuli<br />
gamofenis daTvaliereba.<br />
26<br />
pirvelive dRes baTumSi `EXPO BATUMI-<br />
2011~-is gamofena-bazroba movinaxuleT,<br />
romelSic 12 qveyana monawileobda. `EXPO<br />
BATUMI~ ukve meoTxe welia tardeba da<br />
TandaTan tradiciuli xdeba. mravalprofilianma<br />
gamofenam turistuli, kulinariuli,<br />
eTnografiuli da sxva mravali mxare<br />
warmoaCina. am Temebze saqarTvelos turizmis<br />
erovnuli saagentos direqtoris moadgile<br />
beqa jayeli gvesaubra, daveswariT profesor<br />
marina metrevelis axali wignis prezentacias.<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom ukeT gavecaniT<br />
sxvadasxva qveynis kulturas, safirmo<br />
kerZebisa da umaRlesi xarisxis Rvinos<br />
dagemovnebis SesaZlebloba gvqonda. dargis<br />
uaxles tendenciebsa da Tanamedrove<br />
teqnologiebs gavecaniT. im dRes sastumro<br />
`GEORGIA PALASE HOTEL~-Si infoturs<br />
daveswariT.<br />
`qobuleTis nakrZalSi~ studentebma<br />
gidis meSveobiT<br />
sruli informacia<br />
miiRes, Tu ratomaa<br />
gamorCeuli da<br />
romeli ucxo jiSis<br />
mcenareebi xarobs iq. teritoria<br />
agebulia Tanamedrove<br />
zRviur-mdinareuli da tbiur-Waobis<br />
naleqebiT. qobuleTis daculi teritoriebis<br />
Waobiani habitatebi gadamfreni wylis<br />
frinvelTa saxeobebis mravalferovnebiT<br />
gamoirCeva. magram es adgilebi gansakuTrebulad<br />
mdidaria mcenareTa saxeobebiT.<br />
ispani I-ze dRevandeli mdgomareobiT warmodgenilia<br />
naxevrad degradirebuli, meoradi<br />
mcenareuli dajgufebebi. ispani II (qobuleTis<br />
aRkveTili) msoflio mniSvnelobis unikaluri<br />
perkolaciuri gumbaTisebri Waobia, romelic
mxolod wvimis wyliT sazrdoobs. daculi<br />
teritoria moicavs ispanas torfis sabados.<br />
saRamoxans studentebma Ramis baTumi daaTvalieres,<br />
bulvarSi, sanapiroze gaiseirnes,<br />
gadavidnen `siyvarulis xidze~ da ramdenime<br />
saaTSi saxlSi dabrundnen... mTeli Ramis<br />
ganmavlobaSi dro mxiarulad gaatares.<br />
diliT yvela mzad iyo sakuTari naSromis<br />
dasacavad. daculi teritoriis vizitorTa<br />
centris sakonferencio darbazSi referatebis<br />
dacva gaimarTa universitetis profesor-maswavleblebisa<br />
da administraciis<br />
TamSromlebisagan dakompleqtebuli komisiis<br />
winaSe. studentebma saqar-<br />
Tvelos sxvadasxva<br />
mxare Seiswavles:svaneTi,<br />
kaxeTi,<br />
bazaleTi, qobuleTi...<br />
Jiuris<br />
wevrebi iyvnen:<br />
Tamar qoblianiZe,<br />
nana jana-<br />
Sia, Tamar inasariZe.<br />
maTi TqmiT,<br />
bavSvebma Cinebuli<br />
codna gamoavlines.<br />
isini moixiblnen<br />
studentTa mowadinebiT<br />
da fiqroben,<br />
rom proeqtma gaamarTla.<br />
Jiurim gamoarCia<br />
beqa soselias, irakli kvernaZisa<br />
da badri xalaTianis gundi, vinaidan maT<br />
amomwuravi pasuxebi gasces kiTxvebs da<br />
svaneTze SesaniSnavi naSromi Seqmnes.<br />
qalbaton Tamar qoblianiZis TqmiT, msgavsi<br />
proeqtebi da gasvliTi turebi stimulia<br />
studentebisTvis momavalSi ukeTesi Sedegis<br />
misaRebad. man yvela monawiles madloba<br />
gadauxada imisTvis, rom misi davalebis<br />
gareSe, damoukideblad gadawyvites im<br />
teritoriebis monaxuleba, razec Semdeg<br />
referatebi moamzades. qalbatoni Tamari<br />
afasebs aseT mondomebas da msgavs turebs<br />
samomavlodac gegmavs.<br />
samecniero konferenciis Semdeg studentebmac<br />
da Jiuris wevrebmac gidis daxmarebiT<br />
`mtiralas erovnuli parki~ daaTvalieres.<br />
parki 2007 wlis 27 ivniss gaixsna da<br />
misi farTobi 15804 heqtars moicavs.<br />
erovnuli parkis Seqmnis mizani iyo parkis<br />
27<br />
teritoriaze arsebuli kolxuri ekosis<br />
Temebis dacva da SenarCuneba, agreTve -<br />
ekoturizmis ganviTareba saqarTveloSi.<br />
mtiralas erovnuli parki jerjerobiT<br />
erTaderTi daculi teritoriaa saqar-<br />
TveloSi, sadac ekoturizmisa da samTo<br />
turizmis sazRvao turizmTan Sexamebis<br />
modeli amoqmeddeba. gidma aRniSna, rom<br />
`mtiralas erovnuli parki~ ucxo da iSviaTi<br />
jiSis mcenareebiT gamoirCeva, magaliTad _<br />
wabli, romelic am teritoriis Suagul<br />
zolSia gavrcelebuli da ori<br />
qvesartyeliT aris<br />
warmodgenili.<br />
msgavsi informaciis<br />
miRebis Semdeg, Tbiliselmaaxalgazrdebmaocdaormetriani<br />
Can-<br />
Cqeri daaTvalieres,<br />
romelic<br />
sastarto adgilidan<br />
6 kilometriT<br />
iyo da-<br />
Sorebuli. Semdeggadainacvles`cudmorevastbisken,~<br />
Tumca<br />
iq misulni gaocebuli<br />
darCnen, radgan tbis nacvlad mdinare<br />
daxvdaT. rogorc Semdeg gairkva, zafxulSi,<br />
rodesac wyali Sreba, aq mxolod erT adgilas<br />
rCeba wyali, romelsac adgilobrivebma<br />
`cudmorevas tba” uwodes.<br />
bunebaSi seirnobisa da mravali saintereso<br />
informaciis miRebis Semdeg, studentebma<br />
da sainiciativo jgufma im gidis saxlSi<br />
daisvenes, romelic parkSi miuZRvodaT.<br />
bunebis silamazem molodins ise gadaaWarba,<br />
studentebs erTi dRiT kidev darCena<br />
surdaT, Tumca sxvadasxva xelisSemSleli<br />
mizezis gamo idea ver ganxorcielda.<br />
imave saRamos, 9 saaTze, samarSruto<br />
taqsiT samecniero konferenciis monawileni<br />
TbilisSi gamoemgzavrnen. am SesaniSnavi<br />
gasarTob-SemecnebiTi turis Semdeg Sin yvela<br />
kmayofili dabrunda.<br />
sofo sofo sofo sofo sofo asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe, asaniZe,<br />
nino nino nino nino nino afciauri<br />
afciauri<br />
afciauri<br />
afciauri<br />
afciauri
elgiaSi gamarTul fotokonkursze<br />
qarTvelma Jurnalistma oliko ciskariSvilma<br />
III adgili aiRo. Cven vTxoveT mas gaeziarebina<br />
misi profesiuli gamocdileba da dawvrilebiT<br />
moeyola belgiaSi miRweuli warmatebis<br />
Sesaxeb.<br />
_ _ 21 wlisa ukve gazeT `faqti, azri komentaris~<br />
redaqtori viyavi,_gviTxra man,_ daviwye uStato<br />
korespodentobidan, mexumrebodnen kidec<br />
jariskacobidan da generlobamde axvedio, mere<br />
mimiRes StatSi, Semdeg gavxvdi ganyofilebis<br />
redaqtori, redaqtoris moadgile da Semdeg bedma<br />
ise Semoatriala, rom gavxdi redaqtori.<br />
meamayeboda, rom 21-22 wlis asakSi yvelaze<br />
reitinguli gazeTis redaqtori viyavi.<br />
es pirveli Tavisufali gazeTi parlamentarebisTvis<br />
samagido gamocema iyo.<br />
Semdeg gavTxovdi, SemeZina qal-vaJi, magram<br />
muSaoba ar Semiwyvetia, magram Semdeg ise moxda,<br />
rom redaqciidan wamovedi. daixura es gazeTic.<br />
ar vambob, rom `faqti, azri, komentaris~ xerxemali<br />
viyavi, Tumca erT-erTi sulisCamdgmeli albaT<br />
mec viyavi. axalgazrdobaSi Zalian didi energia<br />
mqonda da albaT am yvelafers amitomac vaxerxebdi.<br />
_ _ _ profesiiT profesiiT Jurnalistma Jurnalistma Jurnalistma ratom ratom gada- gadagada- wyviteT wyviteT fotografoba?<br />
fotografoba?<br />
_ vfiqrob, Jurnalisti unda flobdes<br />
fotografias, radgan man ukeT icis sakuTari<br />
masalisTvis rogori suraTi sWirdeba.<br />
erTxel TbilisSi momxdar wyaldidobaze<br />
statias vwerdi. im dros SemTxveviT fotoaparati<br />
aRmomaCnda, davinaxe axalgazrda qali Cvil bavSvTan<br />
erTad, quCaze ver gadadioda didi niaRvris gamo.<br />
kadri avtomanqanidan daviWire. sabolood,<br />
statiisTvis fotografis mier gadaRebul fotoze<br />
gacilebiT ukeTesi aRmoCnda Cemi SemTxveviT<br />
gadaRebuli fotomasala. aseTi SemTxvevebi ara<br />
erTi iyo, roca fotografs sasurveli foto ar<br />
moutania masalisTvis. sabolood gadavwvite, Cemi<br />
masalebis ilustrirebaze Tavad mezruna.<br />
_ _ _ Tqvenma Tqvenma fotom fotom mowoneba mowoneba daimsaxura<br />
daimsaxura<br />
daimsaxura<br />
belgiaSi belgiaSi gamarTul gamarTul fotokonkursze,<br />
fotokonkursze,<br />
mogviyeviT mogviyeviT am am warmatebis warmatebis Sesaxeb...<br />
Sesaxeb...<br />
_ konkurss atarebda organizacia `karati,~<br />
romelic aris fotografTa erT-erTi cnobili<br />
gaerTianeba da igi qalebsa da maT socialurekonomikur<br />
mdgomareobas asaxavda.<br />
gamovida ise, rom rasac hqvia `gavartyi.~<br />
absoluturad viTavxede, radgan Tavs fotografad<br />
ar miviCenv da ufro Jurnalisti var.<br />
indoeTSi indoeTSi indoeTSi indoeTSi indoeTSi Casvlaze Casvlaze Casvlaze Casvlaze Casvlaze<br />
vocnebob... vocnebob... vocnebob... vocnebob... vocnebob...<br />
21 welia am sferoSi vsaqmianob da verc ki<br />
viocnebebdi, Tu Cemi foto mesame adgils aiRebda,<br />
Tan amxela masStabis konkursSi (konkursSi<br />
monawileobdnen evropis, aziis, amierkavkasiis<br />
fotoJurnalistebi).<br />
Tu Tavis qebaSi ar CameTvleba, iqaurma<br />
fotografebma miTxres, rom didi siamovnebiT<br />
mianiWebdnen Cems fotos pirvel adgils.<br />
es kadri iyo SemTxveviTi, rasac 37-e kadrs<br />
eZaxian, moulodnelad gadaviRe. fotoaparati<br />
sruliad gavsebuli mqonda.<br />
marjaniSvilis metroSi Cavdiodi da SemTxveviT<br />
davinaxe qali da bavSvi. zogadad, Zalian meSinia<br />
maTxovrebis, radgan zogjer Zalian agresiulni arian.<br />
amitom arc obieqtivi da arc fokusi gamisworebia,<br />
ubralod Cumad “CavaCxakune”. ase SemTxveviT<br />
gamovida warmatebuli kadri.<br />
_ _ xom xom ar ar ar gqoniaT gqoniaT raime raime raime SemoTavazeba<br />
SemoTavazeba<br />
ucxoeTidan?<br />
ucxoeTidan?<br />
_ ara, aranairi SemoTavazeba ar mqonia. rogor<br />
iyo iciT? es iyo moZravi gamofena,<br />
sanam me belgiaSi Cavidodi am gamofenam 6 qveyana<br />
moiara.<br />
amis mere damikavSirdnen da miTxres, rom gamofena<br />
didi interesiT sargeblobs da dekembramde kidev<br />
ramdenime qveyanas moivlis.<br />
zustad var getyviT, romeli qveynebi iqneba.<br />
erTaderTi indoeTi damamaxsovrda, radgan indoeTSi<br />
Casvla Cemi ocnebaa.<br />
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_ _ Tqveni Tqveni azriT, azriT, dResdReisobiT dResdReisobiT dResdReisobiT vin vin vin aris aris yvelaze yvelaze warmatebuli warmatebuli fotografi fotografi fotografi saqarTveloSi?<br />
saqarTveloSi?<br />
_ pirovnebebis dakonkretebisgan Tavs Sevikaveb, magram ar momwons dRevandeli fotografebi.<br />
SemiZlia beso darCia davasaxelo, romelic mSvenier reportaJebs iRebs da, amasTanave, aqvs unikaluri<br />
xedva da vfiqrob, igi erT-erTi Zlieria am sferoSi.<br />
fotografias Tavisi specifika aqvs, magaliTad: naTela grigalaSvili uZlieres fotografad<br />
mimaCnia. SesaniSnav fotoebs iRebs socialur Temaze.<br />
_ _ momavalSi momavalSi xom xom ar ar gegmavT gegmavT personaluri personaluri gamofenis gamofenis mowyobas? mowyobas?<br />
mowyobas?<br />
_ ara, ar vapireb personaluri gamofenis mowyobas. namdvili Jurnalisti verasdros dagegmavs Tavis<br />
meore dRes. amas winaT, redaqciaSi unda mivsuliyavi, Tavi ki uceb azerbaijanSi amovyavi.<br />
_ra _ra aris aris imisTvis imisTvis saWiro, saWiro, rom rom rom Jurnalistma Jurnalistma warmatebas warmatebas miaRwios?<br />
miaRwios?<br />
_ pirvel yovlisa, unda giyvardes Seni saqme da Tavganwirva SegeZlos. Jurnalistika avadmyofobaa<br />
da Tu erTxel Setope, warmoudgenelia aqedan gamosvla.<br />
roca iwyeb am profesiis dauflebas, 3-4 Tvis Semdeg gamoCndeba, aris Tu ara igi Seni, da SegiZlia<br />
Tu ara Tavis damkvidreba am profesiaSi.<br />
esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra<br />
salome salome salome salome salome CavleiSvili<br />
CavleiSvili<br />
CavleiSvili<br />
CavleiSvili<br />
CavleiSvili<br />
werili werili werili werili werili Tbilisi Live-sssss<br />
gamarjobaT!<br />
guSin, `qronikis~ 9-saaTian gamoSvebaSi, Sevityve, rom Tiko saduniSvili Turq DJ-ze<br />
gaTxovila da sacxovreblad ankaraSi gadasula. gadacemis wamyvanis adgilze kastingi<br />
tardeba da mec msurs monawileobis miReba. vfiqrob, Cemnairi niWieri Jurnalistis<br />
adgili swored Tqvens gadacemaSia. werils Tan vurTav Cems CV-s.<br />
mokled, davibade da gavizarde saburTaloze, davamTavre `britanuli koleji,~ swavlis<br />
paralelurad, kerZo maswavleblebTan vemzadebodi iseT sagnebSi, rogoricaa: `yvelaze<br />
svecki sazogadoebis antikuri istoria,~ `yvelaze lamazebis uaxlesi istoria~ da `yvelaze<br />
Zerskebis unar-Cvevebi.~.<br />
vimosebi bazrobasa da `seqend hendebSi,~ Tumca interviuebSi yovelTvis aRvniSnav, rom<br />
es brendi sazRvargareT vizitis dros SeviZine an amazon-idan gamoviwere. yovelTvis<br />
garujuli var da JurnalistebTan xmamaRla vacxadeb, rom solariumebis mudmivi klienti<br />
var (da, ra Tqma unda, veravin ver gaigebs, rom sinamdvileSi nucubiZis platoze, Cemi<br />
sacxovrebeli `korpusis~ saxuravze viReb mzis abazanebs). gavikeTe plastikuri operaciebi,<br />
Tumca amas, raRa Tqma unda, ar vamxel, magram Tu Jurnalisti daJinebiT Camacivda, vambob,<br />
rom mxolod umniSvnelo cvlilebebi Sevitane Cems garegnobaSi.<br />
roca Sin marto var, Cumad (ise rom mezoblebmac ver gaigon) vusmen rusul simRerebs<br />
da nino CxeiZis mTel repertuars karaokeSi vmReri, magram, rogorc WeSmariti `Fashion~<br />
Jurnalisti, yvelgan mZafrad vakritikeb da vgmob am ugemovnobas.<br />
var sakmaod `kreatiuli~ da mravalmxrivi niWiT dajildoebuli adamiani. SemiZlia<br />
tiloze davasxa ramdenime gansxvavebuli tonalobis saRebavi, xelebiT avsriso erTmaneTSi<br />
da mas xelovnebis nimuSi vuwodo. Semdeg, movawyob personalur gamofenas, beretiTa da<br />
grZeli SarfiT damSvenebuli, mSvidad vadevneb Tval-yurs kritikosebis aRfrTovanebul<br />
SeZaxilebs: `SexedeT, es patara wiTeli laqa, es xom sazogadoebrivi protestis da<br />
sinamdvilis mxatvruli asaxvis saxe-simboloa!~...me kmayofili var da, ra Tqma unda,<br />
arafers vambob imis Sesaxeb, rom es wiTeli laqa sanam xelovnebis nimuSi gaxdeboda,<br />
manamde erTi Cveulebrivi ketCupis wveTi iyo, romelic Cems `hoT dogs~ amSvenebda.<br />
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imis miuxedavad, rom saerTod ar maqvs riTmis SegrZneba, vwer leqsebs da Tu vinme<br />
gakadnierdeba da Cems naSroms gaakritikebs, aqeT me vatareb kritikis qarcecxlSi, Tan<br />
sul soflelsa da provincials veZaxi. saboloo diagnozic gamomaqvs: `mas ar esmis<br />
xelovneba!~ Tumca mxolod diagnozis amara ar vtoveb aseT gaWirvebul adamianebs da<br />
mkurnalobis kurssac vuniSnav: mTeli erTi kviris ganmavlobaSi savaldebuloa yovel dRe,<br />
14.00 saaTidan – `dRis Sous~ yureba, 22.00 saaTze `nanukas Sous~ yvelaze seqsualuri<br />
dekoraciis yureba, xolo saRamos raime saintereso filmis wakiTxva.<br />
qarTuli enis gramatikis gagebaSi ar var, arc mdidari leqsikuri maragiT gamovirCevi,<br />
magram SemiZlia Tavisuflad gamoviyeno iseTi terminebi, rogoricaa: obskurantizmi,<br />
voluntarizmi, emansipacia, konfesia da a.S. da, ra Tqma unda, maT mniSvnelobaze warmodgenac<br />
ar maqvs. samagierod srulyofilad vflob iseT done sityvebs rogoricaa: `eqSeni,~<br />
`farTi,~ `draivi,~ `invenTi~ da sxv.<br />
d d d d d o o o o o n n n n n e e e e e _ _ _ _ _ J J J J J u u u u u r r r r r n n n n n a a a a a l l l l l i i i i i s s s s s t t t t t i!.. i!..<br />
i!..<br />
amis garda, vflob yvela im aucilebel unar-Cvevebs, rac `Tbilisi Live~-s telewamyvans<br />
sWirdeba. kerZod: SemiZlia mTeli 6 wuTi movandomo iseTi winadadebebis gamoTqmas<br />
rogoricaa: `ar arseboooooobs~ da `Zaan magari situaciaaaaaa.~ srulyofilad vflob<br />
kameris win franguli kocnis xelovnebas. ar vmegobrob soflelebTan da megobrebSic<br />
mxolod naRebi sazogadoebis wevrebs vimateb, iseTebs rogoricaa: `yvelaze SxvarTebi,~<br />
`yvelaze gamorCeuli wyvilebi,~ `yvelaze sakalelebi~ da a.S.<br />
warmodgena ar maqvs federiko felinisa da kusturicas filmebze, Tumca elitur<br />
tusovkebze xmamaRla vacxadeb, rom isini Cemi favoriti reJisorebi arian. ver vitan<br />
jazs, Tumca ar CamovrCebi modur tendencias, tania marias koncertze pirveli gavrbivar<br />
salaroSi da yvelaze Zvirad Rirebul bileTs vyidulob, xolo mere kamerebis win<br />
kmayofili saxiT gavyviri, rom Zalian magari situaciaaa, da xalxs movuwodeb eziaros<br />
jazis namdvil zeims. didi enTuziazmiT SemiZlia gavarCio deni didros an Tundac viqtor<br />
hiugos nawarmoebebi, yvela interviuSi xazgasmiT aRvniSno, rom `kaci romelic icinis~<br />
Cemi usayvarlesi nawarmoebia da verc veravin mixvdeba, rom am wignis mxolod pirveli<br />
da ukanaskneli gverdebi maqvs wakiTxuli.<br />
amis garda, srulyofilad vflob kompiuterul programebs: elete, Enter, Page Up, My<br />
Computer, My Documents, Desktop... rogorc ukve aRvniSne, sakmaod niWieri pirovneba var,<br />
miRweuliT ar vkmayofildebi. swored Cemi niWis wyalobiT, yovelgvari momzadebisa da<br />
repetitorebis gareSe aviTvise iseTi programebi rogoricaa: Mail.ru, Facebook, Twitter da<br />
amJamad My space- s veuflebi.<br />
bevrs aRar gavagrZeleb, radgan vfiqrob, rom Cem mier mowodebuli informacia sruliad<br />
sakmarisia imaSi dasarwmuneblad, rom me idealuri kandidati varDda `Tbilisi Live~- s<br />
Tiko saduniSvilze ukeTesadac ki waviyvan. magram, Tu saswauli moxda da ar amiyvanT,<br />
maSin sainformacio gadacemaSi (`qronika~) msurs Cemi adgilis damkvidreba. ra Tqma unda,<br />
am sferoSic idealurad vflob yvela saWiro da aucilebel unar-Cvevebs. var sulierad<br />
korumpirebuli Jurnalisti, yovelgvari sindisis qenjnis gareSe davmarxav an piriqiT<br />
qebiT camde aviyvan nebismier arsebas (suliersac da usulosac), Tuki amas xelmZRvaneloba<br />
momTxovs. maqvs saocari unari, miviRo iseTi gamometyveleba, rom telemayurebeli davzafro<br />
da sicocxlis xalisi davakargvino. da rac yvelaze mTavaria!Mmaqvs usazRvro fantaziis<br />
unari, rac modelirebuli qronikis organizebaSi damexmareba...<br />
mokled, Zalian didi imedi maqvs, rom moiwonebT Cems kandidaturas da qarTul telesivrces<br />
kidev erTi done Jurnalisti Seemateba.<br />
P. S: Tu arada, iqneb nanukas sTxovoT da Tavis SouSi meore dekoretiuli elementic<br />
daamatos Cemi saxiT!<br />
didi didi didi didi didi pativiscemiT<br />
pativiscemiT<br />
pativiscemiT pativiscemiT<br />
pativiscemiT mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
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Cveni universitetis iuridiuli fakultetis I<br />
kursis studentebi saqarTvelos sapatriarqosTan<br />
arsebuli axalgazrdobis sulieri da inteleqtualuri<br />
ganviTarebis centrs stumrobdnen.<br />
Sexvedraze imyofebodnen sxva universitetebis<br />
iuridiuli fakultetis studentebic, romlebmac<br />
moamzades Tema: iakob gogebaSvilis ,,dedaenis”<br />
kulturul memkvidreobad gamocxadebis Taobaze.<br />
konferenciaze momavali iuristebis 3 jgufi<br />
gamovida, romlebsac gadamwyveti sityvis Tqma<br />
marTebT momavalSic. es Sexvedrac swored maTi<br />
TaosnobiT Catarda.<br />
konferencias qalbatoni mariam cacanaSvili<br />
uZRveboda, TiToeul gamomsvlel jgufsac swored<br />
is afasebda da maTTvis saqebar sityvebs ar iSurebda<br />
sakmaod rTuli davalebis Tavis ase kargad garTmevis<br />
gamo.<br />
konferenciaze wardga ivane javaxiSvilis<br />
saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis<br />
ori da ,,iliaelTa” erTi gundi.<br />
konkursSi monawile 3 jgufi ganixilavda 3<br />
Temas:<br />
1) me vicnob 2003 wlis konvencias;<br />
2) mizanSewonilobis safrTxe;<br />
3) saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobaSi kulturuli<br />
memkvidreobis dacva da misi implementacia.<br />
pirvelma gamomsvlelma nino jajaniZem aRniSna,<br />
rom aramaterialur kulturul memkvidreobad<br />
aRiarebisTvis Zegli ramdenime kriteriums unda<br />
akmayofilebdes: unda iyos tradiciuli,<br />
inkluziuri, warmomadgenlobiTi, Temaze<br />
dafuZnebuli.<br />
am jgufma SeZlo 2003 wlis konvencia farTo<br />
sazogadoebisTvis gasagebad da mokled aexsna.<br />
meore jgufma yuradReba gaamaxvila garkveul<br />
safrTxeebze, Tu ra Sedegi SeiZleba mohyves enobriv<br />
globalizacias. am TvalsazrisiT bevri ram iTqva<br />
sagareo da Sida safrTxeebze.<br />
maTi TqmiT, saanbane wignebis mravalferovneba<br />
sirTuleebs qmnis enis asaTviseblad.<br />
es jgufi eTanxmeba ,,dedaenis~ kulturul<br />
memkvidreobad gamocxadebas.<br />
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`dedaena~<br />
`dedaena~<br />
xalxis xalxis xalxis xalxis xalxis<br />
aRiareb aRiareb aRiarebidan aRiareb aRiareb idan idan idan samarTlebr<br />
samarTlebr<br />
samarTlebriv<br />
samarTlebr<br />
samarTlebriv<br />
iv iv iv<br />
sssssiv iv iv ivrrrrrcemde iv cemde cemde cemde<br />
Sexvedris devizic aseTi gaxldaT: ,,Cven vicavT<br />
,,dedaenas,~ maSasadame, Cven vicavT msoflio<br />
kulturas.~<br />
konferenciis monawileebma saintereso<br />
paralelebi gaavles sxva qveynebis aramaterialur<br />
kulturul ZeglebTan. gamomsvlelebma gviTxres,<br />
rom somxeTSi, magaliTad, aseTad duduki miaCniaT,<br />
italiaSi-pica...<br />
momxseneblebi ar dasjerdnen ,`dedaenis” aramaterialur<br />
kulturul memkvidreobad gamocxadebis<br />
sakiTxs da qarTuli erovnuli instrumentebis<br />
zemoxsenebul siaSi Seyvanis ideac wamoayenes.<br />
am konkurss musikalurad aformebda ansambli<br />
,,qalgulo”(xelmZRvaneli: gomar sixaruliZe),<br />
romelmac iuridiuli brZanebebiT, kanonebiTa da<br />
muxlebis mosmeniT cota daRlili sazogadoeba<br />
sul sxva notze gadaiyvana.<br />
Sesrulda ,,guTnuri,” ,,xevsuruli nana” da kidev<br />
Zalian bevri araCveulebrivi qarTuli xalxuri<br />
simRera. batonma gomarma ganacxada, rom isini qarTul<br />
margalitebs mTaSi, 70_80 wels gadacilebuli<br />
adamianebisagan agroveben.<br />
ansamblis xelmZRvaneli gomar sixaruliZe<br />
gelaTis akademiis medliT dajildovda, rac<br />
yvelasTvis moulodneli iyo da Tavadac araferi<br />
icoda.<br />
gomar sixaruliZis TqmiT, es ansambli eqvTime<br />
TayaiSvilis saxelobis kulturisa da xelovnebis
universitetis bazaze Camoyalibda, romelic axla SoTa rusTavelis saxelobis kinosa da Teatris<br />
universitets miuerTda.<br />
konferencias eswreboda TianeTisa da fSav_xevsureTis mitropoliti meufe Tadeozi. man uwmindesisa<br />
da unetaresis, sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos- patriarqis ilia II-is locva-kurTxeva gadmogvca,<br />
aseve waikiTxa Tavisi leqsi iakob gogebaSvilze, romelic 1934 wels dawera.<br />
Sexvedris dasasruls, samive jgufis TiToeul wevrs gela kandelakma da kavkasiis universitetis<br />
iuridiuli fakultetis dekanma diplomebi gadasces.<br />
msgavs Sexvedrebze, konkursebsa da konferenciebze daswreba Zalze sasargebloa TiToeuli<br />
studentisaTvis. Cven ufro axlos gavicaniT am dRis organizatorebi, gavcvaleT koordinatebi da<br />
vimedovnebT, rom momavalSi aseT RonisZiebebs aRar daveswrebiT stumris ampluaSi, aramed _ ukve<br />
aqtiur monawileebad.<br />
nino nino nino nino nino zviadauri,<br />
zviadauri,<br />
zviadauri,<br />
zviadauri,<br />
zviadauri,<br />
liza liza liza liza liza metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
metreveli<br />
axali axali axali wignebi<br />
wignebi<br />
`agresiuli `agresiuli separatizmi separatizmi da da misi misi Sedegebi~ Sedegebi~ valerian valerian beniZe,<br />
beniZe,<br />
Tbilisi, Tbilisi, gamomcemloba gamomcemloba `cis `cis nami,~ nami,~ 2010.<br />
2010.<br />
Q<br />
Q<br />
gamosacemad gamzadebuli am wignis masalebi avtoris pirad arqivSi<br />
misma meuRlem, qalbatonma izolda xaindravam ipova.<br />
gardacvlili mecnieris ojaxma wignis mokle varianti jer Cveni<br />
universitetis samecniero Jurnalis `kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
universitetis macnes~ meore nomerSi gamoaqveyna, xolo mogvianebiT<br />
am sagulisxmo gamokvlevis<br />
sofel sofel sofel zubis zubis zubis wminda wminda<br />
wminda<br />
giorgisgiorgis saxelobis saxelobis saxelobis ekleekleekle- sia, sia, romelic romelic valerian<br />
valerian<br />
beniZis beniZis iniciativiT iniciativiT aSenda.<br />
aSenda.<br />
samenovanma (qarTul, inglisur da<br />
rusul enebze) vrcelma variantma<br />
wignis saxiT ixila dRis sinaTle.<br />
wigni afxazeTisa da afxazebis monatrebiT, saqarTvelos<br />
am ZirZveli, ganuyofeli nawilis tkiviliTa da<br />
problemebze dafiqrebiT, saqarTvelos gamTlianebis gzebis<br />
ZiebiT, ormxrivi Secdomebis gaanalizebis mcdelobiTaa<br />
faseuli.<br />
uTuod xarobs am WeSmariti<br />
mamuliSvilis netari suli<br />
zeciur saqarTveloSi axlaxan<br />
samebis sakaTedro lavris ezoSi<br />
wminda mociqul svimon kananelis<br />
eklesiis saZirkvlis kurTxevis<br />
gamo, romelic erTmaneTTan<br />
dapirispirebisas daRupul afxaz<br />
da qarTvel meomarTa sulis<br />
saoxad aSendeba.<br />
izolda izolda xaindrava-beniZis xaindrava-beniZis `roca siyvaruli aSenebs~ (gamomcemloba `universali,~ Tbilisi,<br />
2011) am saocari wyvilis xangrZlivi Tanacxovrebis poeturi matianea: `...sulierica da materialuric,<br />
valeris da me, siyvarulma Segvaqmnevina. Cven sikvdil-sicocxlis zRvarmac ver dagvaSora erTmaneTs...<br />
es patara wignic, iseve, rogorc mTeli cxovreba, erTi gabmuli siyvarulis istoriaa!..~ - wers<br />
qalbatoni izolda meuRlisadmi miZRvnili am saocari wignis SesavalSi.<br />
baton revaz miSvelaZes davesesxebiT: `waikiTxeT, garwmunebT, ar inanebT!~<br />
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Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Caduneli: Caduneli: Caduneli: Caduneli: Caduneli:<br />
<br />
<br />
Cveni Cveni Cveni Cveni Cveni saswavlo saswavlo saswavlo saswavlo saswavlo gazeTi gazeTi gazeTi gazeTi gazeTi `studenturi `studenturi `studenturi `studenturi `studenturi zona~ zona~ zona~ zona~ zona~<br />
gamomcemloba gamomcemloba gamomcemloba gamomcemloba gamomcemloba `qarTul `qarTul `qarTul `qarTul `qarTul wignSi~ wignSi~ wignSi~ wignSi~ wignSi~ dakabadonda dakabadonda dakabadonda dakabadonda dakabadonda da da da da da<br />
daibeWda. daibeWda. daibeWda. daibeWda. daibeWda. gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis saqmianobis saqmianobis saqmianobis saqmianobis saqmianobis ukeT ukeT ukeT ukeT ukeT<br />
gasacnobad gasacnobad gasacnobad gasacnobad gasacnobad vestumreT vestumreT vestumreT vestumreT vestumreT mis mis mis mis mis direqtors, direqtors, direqtors, direqtors, direqtors, poet poet poet poet poet<br />
Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Tamaz Cadunels Cadunels Cadunels Cadunels Cadunels da da da da da ramdenime ramdenime ramdenime ramdenime ramdenime SekiTxviT SekiTxviT SekiTxviT SekiTxviT SekiTxviT<br />
mivmarTeT:<br />
mivmarTeT:<br />
mivmarTeT:<br />
mivmarTeT:<br />
mivmarTeT:<br />
_ _ gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis daarseba daarseba Tqveni Tqveni iniciativa iniciativa iyo? iyo? iyo? ramdeni ramdeni xania xania rac rac rac `qarTuli `qarTuli wigni~<br />
wigni~<br />
arsebobs?<br />
arsebobs?<br />
_ diax, Cemi iniciativa iyo. 1994 wlis martidan varsebobT.<br />
_ _ gamomcemlobis gamomcemlobis direqtori direqtori rogor rogor daaxasiaTebdiT daaxasiaTebdiT sakuTar sakuTar Tavs?<br />
Tavs?<br />
_ sakuTar Tavze saubari uxerxulia, Tumca zogjer am uxerxulobas versad gaeqcevi. albaT, imis<br />
Tqma sakmarisi iqneba, rom 1994 wels 5 dolarad gaxsnili gamomcemloba dRes sakmaod msxvili<br />
warmoebaa.<br />
_ _ _ SeiZleba SeiZleba SeiZleba iTqvas, iTqvas, iTqvas, rom rom rom Tqveni Tqveni Tqveni gamomcemloba gamomcemloba Zalian Zalian Zalian pataraa. pataraa. pataraa. mainteresebs, mainteresebs, mainteresebs, rogor rogor<br />
rogor<br />
moaxerxeT moaxerxeT warmatebis warmatebis miRweva?<br />
miRweva?<br />
_ pataraSi, albaT, am oTaxs gulisxmobT. xSirad eSlebaT...gamomcemloba marto kompiuterebi ar<br />
aris. Cven gvaqvs sakuTari stamba, romelic sakmaod didia da SeuZlia erT TveSi milioni furceli<br />
dabeWdos.<br />
_ _ TqvenTan TqvenTan yvela yvela yvela stilis stilis wigni wigni wigni ibeWdeba? ibeWdeba?<br />
ibeWdeba?<br />
_ stilSi ras gulisxmobT _ Sinaarss Tu formats? albaT, formats. nebismieri formatis wignis<br />
dabeWdva SegviZlia rogorc rbil, ise magar garekanSi CasmiT. mTlianad feradi beWdviT. gverdebis<br />
raodenobac problemas ar warmoadgens.<br />
_ _ _ saqarTveloSi saqarTveloSi Zalian Zalian bevri bevri gamomcemlobaa gamomcemlobaa da, da, da, aseT aseT pirobebSi, pirobebSi, rogor rogor rogor axerxebT<br />
axerxebT<br />
arsebobas?<br />
arsebobas?<br />
arsebobas?<br />
_ marTlac, mravali gamomcemlobaa da unda iyos. samwuxaroa, rom bevri gamomcemloba da stamba<br />
ganadgurda, an funqcia Seicvala. es drom moitana! vfiqrob, saqarTveloSi sulieri krizisia da,<br />
albaT, davZlevT, xalxi wignebs kvlav daubrundeba. moswyindebaT kompiuteridan mzamzareuli informaciis<br />
miReba da azrovnebas daubrundebian. azrovnebisTvis wignze ukeTesi saSualeba ar arsebobs.<br />
_ _ yofila yofila iseTi iseTi SemTxveva, SemTxveva, rom rom gamomcemlobas gamomcemlobas socialuri socialuri problema problema Seqmnodes?<br />
Seqmnodes?<br />
_ xSirad. xan ijaris Tanxaa gadasaxdeli, xan _ bankis procenti, xan denis, wylis, dasufTavebis...xan<br />
qonebis Tu mogebis gadasaxadi, xan xelfasebia gasacemi da socanaricxebi gadasaricxi. es problemebi<br />
gamoulevia...magram yvelaze ufro maSin gviWirs, roca romelime manqana mwyobridan gamodis.<br />
gauTvaliswinebeli remonti did xarjs moiTxovs.<br />
_sul _sul ramdeni ramdeni adamiani adamiani adamiani muSaobs muSaobs gamomcemlobaSi gamomcemlobaSi gamomcemlobaSi da da ra ra misia misia akisria akisria TiToeul TiToeul TiToeul maTgans?<br />
maTgans?<br />
_ saqmis mixedviT am adamianTa ricxvi izrdeba, an klebulobs. TiToeuli maTgani Tavisi saqmis<br />
specialistia. yvela manqanas specialisti sWirdeba.<br />
_ _ _ mamaTqveni, mamaTqveni, platon platon platon Caduneli, Caduneli, poeti poeti iyo. iyo. gviambeT gviambeT mis mis Sesaxeb<br />
Sesaxeb<br />
_ mama marTla kargi poeti iyo, magram, samwuxaod, Zalian axalgazrda _ 37 wlis daiRupa<br />
avtoavariaSi dedaCemTan erTad. es 1974 wlis 24 Tebervals moxda. Cemi Zma 10 wlis iyo, me – rvis...<br />
male mzad iqneba platon Cadunelis leqsebis krebuli _ `da mainc raRaca maklia,~ sadac mkiTxveli<br />
Zalian bevr lamaz leqss ipovis...<br />
_ _ _ darwmunebuli darwmunebuli var, var, kiTxva kiTxva Zalian Zalian giyvarT, giyvarT, saqarTveloSi saqarTveloSi ki ki iciT, iciT, iciT, am am mxriv mxriv problemebia.<br />
problemebia.<br />
ras ras urCevdiT urCevdiT axalgazrdebs?<br />
axalgazrdebs?<br />
axalgazrdebs?<br />
_kiTxva skolaSi wasvlamde maswavles, mas Semdeg Cvevad gadameqca. Cemi skolis, soflis, dabis da<br />
raionis biblioTekebis biblioTekarebi dResac didi siyvaruliT mixseneben. biblioTekaSi wigni aRar<br />
iyo, rom ar wamekiTxa. mxatvrul literaturas vgulisxmob, Torem leninis tomebi da politikuri<br />
literatura Taroebze xeluxlebeli ido. dRes ar vici ra xdeba. axalgazrdoba televiziam da<br />
kompiuterma mowyvita kiTxvas. sxvebze arafers vityvi, Cems naTesavs vkiTxe, ramdeni wigni gaqvs<br />
wakiTxuli- meTqi da samio. saTaurebi rom ver gaixsena, erTs wiTeli yda hqonda, ors Savio...<br />
Tu gindaT, scadeT, gaaCereT rusTavelze nebismieri 100 axalgazrda da hkiTxeT main ridis `TeTri<br />
TaTmani~ an Tundac diumas `sami muSketeri~ Tu waukiTxavs... savalalo Sedegs miiRebT.<br />
axalgazrdebs vurCev qarTuli literatura aucileblad ikiTxon, xelisuflebas ki vurCev... ar<br />
gadadon, rac SeiZleba male gamoZebnon saxsrebi mwerlebis xelSesawyobad, Torem aT weliwadSi<br />
SeiZleba saqarTvelos mwerali aRarc hyavdes...<br />
esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra eTer eTer eTer eTer eTer WyoiZe WyoiZe WyoiZe WyoiZe WyoiZe<br />
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TiTqmis yovelwliurad icvleba reformebi ganaTlebis sistemaSi. erT-erTi aseTi<br />
cvlilebis ,,bralia” is, rom axla, am wuTas baRdaTis raionis sofel fersTSi biologiis<br />
gamocdas veswrebi meTvalyuris ampluaSi. bavSvebi ukve daiRalnen, radgan dRes mesame<br />
gamocdas abareben. albaT amis bralia, Cumad rom arian da Cemi ukve ramdenime dRiT<br />
gadadebuli statiis weris dawyebis saSualebas maZleven.<br />
yovel dilas skolis direqtori da erT-erTi meTormeteklaseli (qvemoT ukve juba)<br />
Sin makiTxaven, samuSao dRis dasrulebis Semdeg ki isev saxlSi mivyavar.<br />
bavSvebi pirvel gamocdaze mainc nerviuloben, magram nel-nela es grZnoba sadRac<br />
uqrebaT da manam, sanam vcdilob teqnikuri problema movagvaro, juba xatviT erToba da<br />
cdilobs daamTavros dawyebuli fraza: ,,I love y…” aq saqmeSi me verTvebi da warwerac<br />
ukvalod qreba.<br />
problemac mogvarda.... interneti isev CairTo da gamocdac gagrZelda.<br />
saRamoobiT Cems maspinZel luri bebiasTan mezoblebi ikribebian. vmsjelobT<br />
zogadsakacobrio Temebze, magaliTad: Tu rogori aucilebelia bavSvisTvis zogadi ganaTlebis<br />
skolaSi miReba, da rom Zalian kargia aseTi gamocdebis SemoReba. ratom Txovdebian da<br />
iniSnebian adreul asakSi, erT kviraSi ki ojaxebs angreven. erTi sityviT, aq namdvilad<br />
ver moiwyenT.<br />
guSin gamafrTxiles, rom dRes 1 saaTze, bavSvebs unda Sevxvde. diliT oTaxSi Semoipara<br />
erT-erTi gogona, cremliani Tvalebi hqonda da mTxova, dameTxova, radgan laSqrobaze<br />
undoda wasvla. ra Tqma unda, arc Tu ise didi xnis fiqris Semdeg, gavaTavisufle, imis<br />
miuxedavad, rom direqtorma mTxova, ar gameSva. mogvianebiT gavige, rom mSoblebs eSiniaT,<br />
gogona ar gaiparos....<br />
cremlebis mizezic gasagebia......<br />
erT-erT Tavisufal dRes skolis direqtori, qalbatoni nargiza mZRolTan erTad ukve<br />
Cems saxlTan idga. Eeqskursiac daiwyo. pirvelad gelaTi movinaxuleT: ar dagvviwyebia<br />
daviT aRmaSeneblis saflavic, Tumca es simboluria, radgan yvelam ukve danamdvilebiT<br />
viciT, es samarxi carielia.<br />
`quTaiso `quTaiso Cemo~ Cemo~ anu<br />
anu<br />
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reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
reportaJi<br />
SemTxveviT Segvxvda beri, romelmac axali samarxis aRmoCena Segvatyobina. jer bolomde<br />
ar gamoukvleviaT, magram, rogorc varaudoben, daviT aRmaSeneblis namdvil saflavs<br />
miagnes. is karibWesTan kidev ufro axlos, daaxloebiT, 2–3 metriT qvemoTaa.<br />
gelTidan gza pirdapir mowameTasken gavagrZeleT. wirva ukve mTavrdeboda, roca<br />
SevediT. daveswariT qadagebas da gulma mama giorgis (basilaZe) senakisken gagviwia,<br />
Tumca Sesvlisa Zalian gveSinoda, mainc gavbedeT da kedelTan avituzeT.<br />
momlocvelTa umravlesoba aq swored masTan Sesaxvedrad Camodis.<br />
mama giorgis senakSi SesulT, daxloebiT, 50 adamiani dagvxvda. Cumad, uxmaurod<br />
gadavedi ,,dacul~ adgilas da mTeli yuradReba misi saubrisken gadavitane.<br />
mama giorgi is adamainia, romelic umizezod arafers ambobs. win mdgomebs vinaoba<br />
gamohkiTxa. erT-erTma qalabatonma uTxra, rom soxumidan iyo. ,,mere, aq ra ginda, iq<br />
ratom ar midixar?~ – hkiTxa mama giorgim. wadiT, oRond yvela erTad, aiReT droSebi da<br />
win veravin dagidgebaTo.<br />
,,rTuli dro movidao,~ - erTma qalma es Tqven SeicvaleT drosTan erTado, upasuxa<br />
mama giorgim. mere erT kacs miubrunda da hkiTxa:<br />
_ sjobs erSi darCe Tu beri gaxde?<br />
– albaT, erSi…<br />
– marTali xar, aucileblad unda iyolio Svilebi, amiT Seasrulo Seni movaleoba da<br />
adeqi, wadi da iloce mere ramdenic ginda.
viRacam misi saubris Cawera daapira. mcdeloba uSedego aRmoCnda, Turme aparatura<br />
mis xmis ver aRiqvams. gawvimda da karTan mdgom biWs sTxova, yvela gareT mdgomi SemoeSva.<br />
or wuTSi mama giorgis sakmaod didi senaki gaivso.<br />
_ ox, ramdenni xarT.... ra gindaT aq, risTvis mosulxarT? _gaeRima mas.<br />
SeZaxilze ,,qriste aRsdga!” pasuxi dagviwuna. mizezi gasagebi iyo. yvelaferi gulidan<br />
unda modiodes.... xalxis raodenoba da mquxare SeZaxili: ,,WeSmaritad” srulebiT arafers<br />
niSnavs.....<br />
erT mamakacs asaki hkiTxa.<br />
– mere am periodSi adamiani Tu ginaxavso?<br />
bevrs aRar gavagrZeleb...<br />
axla vici, mowameTaSi rom CaxvalT, erT sakmaod asakovan, grZeli, TeTri wverebiT<br />
mosil moxucs, mama giorgis rom eZaxian, pirvelad imas moinaxulebT, is ki TavisTvis,<br />
yovelTvis auRelveblad zis senakSi da masTan misulebs esaubreba. mis senakSi ver naxavT<br />
yavisfer an Sav yuTs, warweriT _ ,,Semosawiri,” mas Cvengan araferi sWirdeba.<br />
es Cven gvinda nugeSi, dargeba da, bolos da bolos, am wminda adamianis naxva.<br />
saTaflia... uZvelesi istoriiTa da ulamazesi xedebiT.... aq haeri gansakuTrebiT sufTaa,<br />
iseTi, gareT rom gamodixar, ramdenime wuTiT sunTqvac giWirs.<br />
daRlilebma gadavwyviteT cota xniT sadme gavCerebuliyaviT da gvesadila......<br />
xandaxan, roca yvelaferi gansakuTrebiT kargadaa, erTi patara detali yvelafers<br />
afuWebs. adamiani uceb eCveva kargsac da cudsac... ufro metad _ kargs.... Sen rom ar<br />
gciva, gSia da gwyuria, cota Znelia mixvde, rogoria namdvili sicivis, SimSilisa da<br />
wyurvilis grZnoba.<br />
Cveni eqskursia ukve dasasruls uaxlovdeboda, rom uceb.... benzingasamarT sadgurze<br />
erT-erTi meTormeteklaseli davinaxe... maqanidan fuli ise gadaawodes, ar SeuxedavT da<br />
rogor dainaxavdnen... uceb misi dabneuli Tvalebi SevniSne, naZaladevi Rimili, da vigrZeni,<br />
mTeli dRe or wuTSi rogor gauferulda.<br />
ar vambob imas, rom Sroma sircxvilia. es arc arasodes mifiqria, magram... sircxvili<br />
is aris, es patara biWi ojaxs rom arCens... dReSi mainc ramdeni unda miscen: 5 lari ....<br />
10 lari?<br />
rogor rogor movxvdi movxvdi imereTSi...<br />
imereTSi...<br />
axla atestati Tu ar eqneba, aqac ver imuSavebs... hoda, esec yovel gamocdaze modis...<br />
vin icis, ramdeni xvewnis fasad. sacdel gamocdaze daagvianda kidec... mogvianebiT movida.<br />
gamoparula.<br />
axla ki... axla gamocda... bavSvebi isev wynarad arian. erT jgufs meore cvlis da ase...<br />
ase dRis bolomde.<br />
Cemi ,,mivlineba~ nel-nela dasasruls uaxlovdeba, me ki arc vici, gamixardes Tu<br />
mewyinos, radgan Zalian SeveCvie aqaurobas..<br />
gavicani inglisuris maswavlebeli, romelic am skolaSia gamogzavnili. faqtebis moyvanas<br />
ar daviwyeb da pirdapir vityvi, rom rogorc ki ukan dabrundeba, apireben, misi wasvla<br />
aRniSnon. diasaxlissac erTi suli aqvs, misi ramdenime Tvis dausufTavebeli oTaxi<br />
daalagos.<br />
dRes qimiis gamocdaa... yvelaferi wynarad midioda manam, sanam joxis kakuni ar momesma<br />
xma TandaTan axlovdeboda, da bolos, yavarjnebze ,,amxedrebulma~ abiturientmac Semoabija<br />
oTaxSi. Tavdadeba aseTi unda.<br />
bolo ori dRe gansakuTrebiT gaiwela da Zlivs wamosvlis dRec movida. gareT gamosulebs<br />
tortiT, saCuqrebiT, yvavilebiT da SampaniurebiT dagvxdnen. gadaviReT samaxsovro fotoebi<br />
da Semdeg yvelam gamogvacila.<br />
dauviwyari dReebi gavatare baRdaTSi, magram manqana rom daiZra, guli sul ar mwydeboda...<br />
yvelaferi rodesme unda damTavrdes..usasrulo araferia, garda siTbosi, siyvarulisa<br />
da im imedisa, rom aq odesme kidev Camoval.<br />
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nino nino nino nino nino zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri
jemal jemal jemal jemal jemal soloRaSvili:<br />
soloRaSvili:<br />
soloRaSvili:<br />
`leqtorma `leqtorma studenti studenti maqsimalurad<br />
maqsimalurad<br />
unda unda gamoiwvios...~<br />
gamoiwvios...~<br />
yvela yvela studentis studentis studentis mizania mizania kargi kargi ganaTlebis ganaTlebis miReba, miReba, rac rac profesiuli profesiuli profesiuli winsvlis winsvlis<br />
winsvlis<br />
garantiaa, garantiaa, magram magram maTi maTi fiqrebi fiqrebi mxolod mxolod am am konkretul konkretul sazrunavs sazrunavs sazrunavs moucavs moucavs da da<br />
da<br />
uneblied uneblied miRma miRma rCebian rCebian pirovnebebi, pirovnebebi, romlebic romlebic mudmivad mudmivad zrunaven, zrunaven, raTa raTa ganaTlebis<br />
ganaTlebis<br />
procesi procesi universitetSi universitetSi umaRles umaRles doneze doneze mimdinareobdes.<br />
mimdinareobdes.<br />
am am adamianebis adamianebis ricxvs ricxvs miekuTvneba miekuTvneba Cveni Cveni respodentic, respodentic, romelic romelic imis imis garda,<br />
garda,<br />
rom rom saswavlo saswavlo procesebis procesebis marTvis marTvis marTvis departamentis departamentis ufrosi ufrosi specialistia, specialistia, uSualod<br />
uSualod<br />
samedicino samedicino samedicino fizikis fizikis leqciebs leqciebs kiTxulobs kiTxulobs kiTxulobs medicinis medicinis fakultetze. fakultetze. mis mis mis pirovnebas<br />
pirovnebas<br />
kidev kidev ufro ufro saintereso saintereso niuanss niuanss matebs matebs poeziisadmi poeziisadmi didi didi siyvaruli. siyvaruli. Cvens<br />
Cvens<br />
kiTxvebs kiTxvebs upasuxebs upasuxebs `fizikos-lirikosi,~ `fizikos-lirikosi,~ `fizikos-lirikosi,~ batoni batoni jemal jemal soloRaSvili.<br />
soloRaSvili.<br />
geofizikaa. swored geofizikuri movlenebi,<br />
magnituri qarebi, mzis zedapirze afeTqebebi<br />
sagrZnob zegavlenas axdenen adamianze. aseve, bgeris,<br />
ultrasonografiis meSveobiT janmrTelobis<br />
mdgomareobis dadgena SeiZleba. zogadad, Zalian<br />
sainteresoa medicinaSi imis warmoCena, rasac<br />
fizikosebi vflobT.<br />
_ _ rogori rogori rogori urTierToba urTierToba gaqvT gaqvT studen- studenstudentebTan? tebTan?<br />
tebTan?<br />
_ leqciebzec da mis gareTac Tbili da<br />
megobruli urTierToba maqvs. vfiqrob, leqtori<br />
students SviliviT unda eqceodes. rogorc sakuTari<br />
Svilis mokveTa ar SeiZleba ojaxidan, rogorc<br />
TiToeul Svils sakuTari xasiaTis Sesabamisad<br />
unda dauTmo yuradReba, aseve studentic<br />
individualur aRricxvaze unda hyavdes leqtors.<br />
Cemi azriT, yvela students udidesi siTboTi<br />
_ _ _ ras ras niSnavs niSnavs TqvenTvis TqvenTvis umaRlesi<br />
umaRlesi unda moepyro. saerTod, iSviaTad viCen simkacres,<br />
saswavleblis saswavleblis pedagogoba?<br />
pedagogoba?<br />
magram momTxovni da am sakiTxSi Seuvalic var.<br />
_ es gaxlavT udidesi pasuxismgebloba erisa mudmivad da intensiurad vmuSaob, rom studenti<br />
da sazogadoebis winaSe. pedagogi frTxili da aviyolio, miviyvano dadebiT Sedegamde ara<br />
kritikuli unda iyos sakuTari Tavis mimarT, radgan gayalbebiT, aramed didi muSaobisa da gaaqtiurebis<br />
misma elementarulma Secdomamac ki SesaZloa gziT.<br />
uaryofiTi Sedegi moutanos axalgazrdobas. mas _ _ rogorc rogorc universitetis universitetis saswavlo<br />
saswavlo<br />
moeTxoveba iyos erudirebuli, kargad flobdes procesis procesis marTvis marTvis departamentis departamentis departamentis ufrosma<br />
ufrosma<br />
sakuTar sagans da studentamde codnis mitanis specialistma, specialistma, Uufro Uufro dawvrilebiT dawvrilebiT dawvrilebiT gviambeT<br />
gviambeT<br />
xelovnebas. auditoriis pasiuroba umetesad am am am departamentisa departamentisa da da misi misi misi funqciebis funqciebis Sesaxeb.<br />
Sesaxeb.<br />
xelovnebis xarvezis Sedegia. pedagogma unda SeZlos _ saswavlo departamenti did rols asrulebs<br />
studentis ayolieba da misi ganaTlebis umaRles universitetis cxovrebaSi. xarisxis uzrunvelyofis<br />
doneze ayvana.<br />
samsaxuri, reqtorati garkveul samuSaos gvakisrebs,<br />
Cven ki vaxorcielebT ra am davalebebs, vaanalizebT<br />
_ _ _ Tqven Tqven Tqven medicinis medicinis fakultetze fakultetze samedicino<br />
samedicino Sedegebsac. vcdilobT TiToeul students droulad<br />
fizikas fizikas aswavliT. aswavliT. gviambeT gviambeT am am sagnisa sagnisa da da<br />
da mivawodoT informacia misi mdgomareobis, miRwevebis,<br />
profesiis profesiis profesiis specifikaze...<br />
specifikaze...<br />
problemebis Sesaxeb. vexmarebiT gamosavalis<br />
_ medicina Cems ideals warmoadgenda. saSualo povnaSi. vukavSirdebiT mSoblebs, xSirad Tavadac<br />
skolis damTavrebis Semdeg eqimobis didi survili interesdebian, rac misasalmebelia. saswavlo<br />
mqonda. samwuxarod, im periodSi ganaTlebis garda departamenti akontrolebs leqciebis mimdinareobis<br />
sxva faqtorebic moqmedebdnen umaRlesSi xarisxs, asrulebs koordinatoris rols, raTa<br />
Cabarebaze, ris gamoc ver movxvdi sasurvel studentma leqtorTan SeTanxmebiT da, ra Tqma<br />
fakultetze.<br />
unda, kanonierebis farglebSi, sakuTari reitingis<br />
zemoxsenebulis miuxedavad, mainc vecnobodi gaumjobeseba SeZlos. individualurad, TiToeuli<br />
samedicino literaturas, rasac xeli Seuwyo studentis problemas vaanalizebT da vasrulebT,<br />
Svilis arCevanmac, eqimi gamxdariyo. axla leqciebs ase vTqvaT, tutoris, mrCevelis funqciasac.<br />
samedicino fizikaSi vkiTxulob. Cemi specialoba<br />
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_ _ ra ra problemebs problemebs awydeba awydeba awydeba departamenti<br />
departamenti<br />
muSaobisas?<br />
muSaobisas?<br />
_ saqmianobis operatiulobisTvis ukeTesi<br />
iqneboda departamentSi personalis ricxvis gazrda,<br />
Tumca samuSao dauZleveli ar aris. arc erTi<br />
mxridan seriozul problemebs ar vawydebiT da<br />
dakisrebul movaleobebs vumklavdebiT.<br />
_ _ ra ra aris aris saWiro saWiro imisTvis, imisTvis, rom rom saswavlo<br />
saswavlo<br />
procesis procesis Sedegebi Sedegebi maqsimaluri maqsimaluri iyos?<br />
iyos?<br />
_ TiToeuli pedagogi sauniversiteto wesdebas<br />
da saswavlo procesis maregulirebel wess unda<br />
icnobdes. unda icodes, rogor Seafasos Tavisi<br />
Sedegebi. mxolod daswrebisas ar unda xdebodes<br />
leqciis avkargianobis dadgena. saWiroa<br />
TviTkontroli. me piradad viyeneb gausis meTods<br />
_diagramas, romlis meSveobiTac Sedegebs<br />
vakontroleb, vigeb Tu ra miRwevebia jgufSi da<br />
xarvezis SemTxvevaSi vasworeb maT. es aris<br />
erTgvari Sefaseba.<br />
erTi mxriv, SeiZleba pedagogma auditoriamde<br />
codna ver miitanos. meore mxriv, programa iyos<br />
rTuli da dauZleveli studentis mxridan. SesaZloa<br />
leqtori iyos loialuri an programa _ susti.<br />
gausis ganawilebis meTodi am yovelives warmoaCens<br />
da Tu mrudSi Sedegebi jdeba, CavTvliT, rom<br />
swavlebac da swavlac adekvaturi da maRali<br />
xarisxisaa.<br />
_ _ ra ra wvlili wvlili miuZRvis miuZRvis students students saswavlo<br />
saswavlo<br />
procesis procesis gaumjobesebaSi?<br />
gaumjobesebaSi?<br />
_ cxadia, mxolod leqtorze ar aris<br />
damokidebuli swavlebis Sedegi. leqtorma rogorc<br />
mmarTvelma maqsimalurad unda gamoiwvios, aiyolios<br />
studenti. moaxdinos misi stimulireba, saintereso<br />
gaxados sagani misTvis. meore mxriv, studentic<br />
unda iyos dainteresebuli swavliT. samwuxarod,<br />
zogierTi maTgani sakuTari sizarmaciT qars atans<br />
mSoblebis naamagars.<br />
studentma saWiroa gaacnobieros, rom masze<br />
Zalian bevria damokidebuli. masSi Segneba im<br />
donemde unda iyos asuli, rom zustad icodes, ra<br />
unda. Tu mas codnis dagroveba ar ainteresebs, ar<br />
aris aucilebeli umaRlesis diplomis qona.<br />
students moeTxoveba Segnebulad gaaanalizos misi<br />
awmyo da momavali da amis mixedviT miiRos<br />
gadawyvetileba. sasurvelia universitetSi<br />
swavlisas icnobdes mis kanonmdeblobas, zogad<br />
Sinaganawess da emorCilebodes mas. unda imecadinos,<br />
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pedagogi profesiuli zrdisaTvis gamoiyenos da<br />
misgan saWiro konsultacia miiRos.<br />
_ _ ras ras akeTebs akeTebs akeTebs kavkasiis kavkasiis saerTaSoriso<br />
saerTaSoriso<br />
universiteti, universiteti, rom rom saswavlo saswavlo procesi procesi procesi kargi<br />
kargi<br />
da da xarisxiani xarisxiani xarisxiani iyos? iyos?<br />
iyos?<br />
_ mTeli universitetis arsi mag SekiTxvaSia.<br />
reqtorati, xarisxis kontrolis samsaxuri,<br />
saswavlo departamenti _ yvela erToblivi<br />
ZalisxmeviT cdilobs iseTi debulebebis<br />
SemuSavebas, romlebic saswavlo process ufro<br />
maRali Sedegis mqones gaxdis. ganaTlebis<br />
saministros mier dadgenili minimaluri zRvari<br />
Cvenma xelmZRvanelobam gazarda, rac udavod<br />
gamoiwvevs swavlis xarisxis zrdas.<br />
aseve, studentis stimulirebisTvis, reqtoratis<br />
winadadebiT, direqciam daawesa stipendia, rac<br />
komerciul saswavleblebSi iSviaTobaa. Cvenma<br />
universitetma es nabiji gadadga, raTa students<br />
hqondes stimuli. is, rom fakultetidan mxolod<br />
or saukeTesos aqvs Sansi, iyos stipendianti,<br />
amZafrebs survils, moipovos rCeulTa Soris<br />
rCeulis statusi. universiteti studentebs<br />
eqskursiebis, mxatvruli RonisZiebebis organizebaSi<br />
exmareba. tardeba konferenciebi, RonisZiebebi, rac<br />
xels uwyobs inteleqtis ganviTarebas.<br />
_ _ CvenTvis CvenTvis CvenTvis cnobili cnobili gaxda, gaxda, rom rom rom werT werT<br />
werT<br />
leqsebs leqsebs da da krebulic krebulic gamoeciT. gamoeciT. ras ras ras niSnavs niSnavs<br />
niSnavs<br />
TqvenTvis TqvenTvis poezia?<br />
poezia?<br />
_ bavSvobidan gamitaca am saqmem. Aaris, roca<br />
adamians SegiCdeba muza, gaCndeba azri da ar<br />
gasvenebs, sanam qaRaldze ar gadaitan. imis<br />
miuxedavad, rom bevri megobari myavs, sakmaod<br />
karCaketili viyavi, radgan mimaCnia, rom saTqmeli<br />
yovelTvis araa gasaziarebeli. maqvs azri, magram<br />
ver vuziareb, am dros vwerdi. vwerdi leqsebsac<br />
da memuarebsac.<br />
redaqtorebma: tristan maxaurma da revaz<br />
ZnelaZem waikiTxes leqsebi, momces rCevebi da<br />
amis gaTvaliswinebiT 100 leqsi moxvda krebulSi,<br />
xuTi wlis winaT sul 135 cali gamoveci da<br />
megobrebs davurige. leqsis wera da poezia mixsnis<br />
tvirTs, uaryofiT emociebs. ar miyvars, roca Cems<br />
ganwyobas sxvas vaxvev. naazrevi yovelTvis ar<br />
unda gamoTqva, radgan SesaZloa SecdomaSi Seiyvanos<br />
sxva. amitom jobia dawero, daRvindes da Semdeg<br />
Seafason.<br />
_ _ romelia romelia sakuTari sakuTari leqsis leqsis TqvenTvis<br />
TqvenTvis<br />
yvelaze yvelaze Zvirfasi Zvirfasi striqonebi?<br />
striqonebi?<br />
_ swored rom gamorCeuli striqonebi ar vici,<br />
magram CemTvis yvelaze Zvirfasi strofebia isini,<br />
romelic pirvel Svils, naTias mivuZRveni:<br />
roca qveynad damebada naTia,<br />
roca suli Caisaxa masSi,<br />
vTqvi, rom Cemi kelaptaric daenTo,<br />
arasodes amereva sxvaSi!<br />
_ xom xom ar ar unda unda unda velodoT velodoT momavalSi momavalSi Tqveni Tqveni<br />
Tqveni<br />
leqsebis leqsebis axal axal krebuls?<br />
krebuls?<br />
_ am xnis ganmavlobaSi bevri leqsi damigrovda.<br />
Tumca, am bolo xans dro aRar mrCeba da<br />
muzamac mimatova, ise viRlebi.<br />
vfiqrob, axali leqsebis<br />
SematebiT, Zvelis<br />
gadamuSavebiT gamovcem<br />
krebuls. imis miuxedavad, rom<br />
gagrZ. gagrZ. gagrZ. gagrZ.<br />
gagrZ. 41-gv<br />
gv gv gv<br />
gv
kanudoselebiT<br />
dasaxlebuli ocnebis qalaqi<br />
kanudosi... TiToeuli CvenganisTvis<br />
samagaliToni rom arian... saocaria<br />
personaJebis sulieri fericvaleba, aRmasvla<br />
da swrafva Tavisuflebisaken. yvelas axsovs<br />
konselieros sityvebi: `Tavisufleba giCvenebT, Tu ra<br />
aris, brZolac mogvelis, isic icodeT, rom davmarcxdebiT,<br />
magram silaRes xom mainc igemebT.~<br />
es aRTqma mkiTxvels aRafrTovanebs da saqarTvelos bedisweras hgavs,<br />
damarcxeba rom moelis, Tumca mainc ibrZolebs `kamoras~ borkilebisgan<br />
Tavis dasaRwevad. diax, damarcxdeba, magram silaRes mainc igemebs. es patriotuli<br />
suliskveTeba izidavda nebismieri Taobis warmomadgenels da, Tundac, erTxel kanudosSi<br />
stumrobis Semdeg mis mudmiv moqalaqed aqcevda.<br />
im periodSi, roca nawarmoebi iwereboda, warmoudgeneli iyo am Temaze xmis amoReba.<br />
amitomac mweralma xerxs mimarTa da samSoblo ocnebis qalaq kanudosad warmosaxa.<br />
Cvenc veZebT sakuTar Tavebs personaJebSi, gvsurs domenikosaviT viRvawoT WeSmaritebis<br />
misagnebad. erTi sityviT, gviyvars isini, da am siyvarulma gagvaerTiana `Tibisi~ galereaSi<br />
im imediT, rom kidev erTxel SevxvdebodiT pirovnebas, romelmac literatura Zalian<br />
Segvayvara, movismendiT romanis Seqmnis istorias da madlobas gadavuxdidiT gamomcemloba<br />
`meridians,~ `samoseli pirveli~-s axali, meeqvse gamocemisTvis, doCanaSvilis Tanamedroveebs<br />
Zvirfasi saCuqari rom gviZRvna.<br />
galereaSi Sekrebili sazogadoeba _ `samoseli pirveli,~ erT wignad gaerTianebuli<br />
yvelasaTvis sayvareli romani. irgvliv mxolod cnobili saxelebi da frazebi ismoda.<br />
guram doCanaSvilis mier `dapyrobil~ veeberTela auditoriaSi, sasixaruloa, rom<br />
mravali axalgazrda trialebda, maT Soris Cvenc, pirvelad wakiTxvis bednierebagamovlilni,<br />
mouTmenlad velodiT Tanamedroveobis udides klasikoss.<br />
male batoni guramic gamoCnda. mSvidi, neli nabijebiT Semovida darbazSi, saxeze<br />
gulwrfeli Rimili dasTamaSebda. mokrZalebiT Tavs gvikravda, wyliani TvalebiT yvelas<br />
gvesalmeboda da madlobas gvixdida. taSis xma ar wydeboda...<br />
mis TiToeul moqmedebaSi udidesi Tavmdabloba igrZnoboda. sulmouTqmelad velodiT,<br />
rodis daiwyebda saubars, raTa gagvego, Tu rogor iqmnebodnen didebuli personaJebi.<br />
romanze 12 wlis manZilze muSaobda. 1966 wels daiwyo wera. SualedebSi moTxrobebic<br />
iqmneboda. iyo periodi, roca saerTod kalami ar auRia. ase gavida 12 weli da pirvelma<br />
gamocemam dRis sinaTle ixila.<br />
mwerali gulwrfeli iyo. TanamimdevrobiT ixsenebda romanze muSaobis sirTuleebs.<br />
dasrulebis Semdeg redaqciaSi mitanili nawarmoebi redaqtoris gadawyvetilebiT<br />
maSinve, yovelgvari rigis gareSe gamoaqveynes. gamoxmaurebebmac ar daayovna. imdroindeli<br />
cenzurisaTvis gaugebari iyo, Tu ratom iyo Tema Tavisufleba.<br />
_ minda madloba gadavuxado Cems mkiTxvelebs, gansakuTrebiT ki axalgazrdebs, romlebmac<br />
miiRes da Seiyvares es wigni, radgan mas kosmopolitizmsa da vulgarulobaSic ki<br />
sdebdnen brals...<br />
kosmopolitizmSic brali gmirebis saxelebis gamo daudiaT. misi mxridan pasuxmac ar<br />
daayovna – ucxoeTSi mcxovrebTaTvis qarTuli saxelebis darqmeva Seusabamo iqnebodao.<br />
ecadnen, sxva nawarmoebebTan moeZebnaT msgavseba, gaevloT paralelebi, epovaT zegavlenis<br />
sfero. baton gurams amazec logikuri pasuxi hqonda. igi yvelas mouwodebda, gaeazrebinaT,<br />
rom ar arsebobs ambavi, romelic bibliaSi _ Zvel da axal aRTqmaSi ar asaxuliyos.<br />
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Tavad domenikoc uZRebi Svilis saxea. soflidan wamosuli ymawvili kamoraSi udidesi<br />
Sinagani brZolis Semdeg, kanudosSi sulier fericvalebas ganicdis da isev mSobliur<br />
sofelSi, mamis wiaRSi brundeba.<br />
mwerali TiTqos gumaniT xvdeboda, risi gagebac yvelaze metad gvsurda _ rogoria<br />
guram doCanaSvili weris momentSi da rogoria sazogadoebaSi?<br />
_ weris momentSi?... amaze Znelia saubari.. pirovneba sazogadoebasTan urTierTobisas<br />
da weris procesisas radikalurad gansxvavdeba erTmaneTisgan. es iseTi ram aris, razec<br />
ver gelaparakebiT. mxolod getyviT, rasac vfiqrob: mwerali aris gadamweri, mxatvari _<br />
gadamxatavi, musikosi _ gadammRerebeli. erTaderTi Semoqmedi ufali Cveni ieso qristea.<br />
scenasTan avtografebis msurvelTa uzarmazari rigi gaCnda, romelsac bolo ar uCanda,<br />
Tbili da siyvaruliT aRsavse gamometyveleba aravisTvis dauklia. Cvenc rigis bolos<br />
aRmovCndiT. sasiamovno wami iyo, drois mdinarebaSi aRbeWdili, da es wami fotoaparatma<br />
SeaCera.<br />
gveamayeba, rom sayvarel mwerals SevxvdiT da vesaubreT.<br />
imeds vitovebT, momavalSi misi Tayvanismcemlebis ricxvi kidev ufro gaizrdeba. kidev<br />
bevri SeigrZnobs `erTi ramis siyvaruls,~ darwmundeba, rom dedamiwas siyvaruli atrialebs,<br />
da rom `Cven _ yvelani, sul yvelani, adamianebi uxilavi qseliT erTmaneTze gadabmulebi<br />
varT, arc viciT ise...~ `...Cven yvelas gvaqvs Cven-Cveni sxvisi Zala.~<br />
pirvelad wakiTxvis sixarulTan erTad gaiazrebT, rom `Zalian didi mniSvneloba ar<br />
aqvs imas, adre mokvdebi Tu SedarebiT gvian, radgan bolo mainc eg aris... mTavaria Tu<br />
rogor mokvdebi da ris Cadenas SeZleb... darwmundebi, rom im mZime tvirTsac, im Znelad<br />
satarebel dolabsac aqvs Tavisi fasi, Tavisi madli da sikeTe...~ SeZleb dawolisas im<br />
erT, gardamaval wams ganikiTxo Seni Tavi, Seiyvaro moyvasi Seni viTarca Tavi Tvisi da<br />
iRvawo naTelis mosapoveblad, ai im naTelis TeTri sanTeli rom afrqvevs, da romlis<br />
Cumi wvac amaRlebaa.<br />
lika lika lika lika lika zambaxiZe,<br />
zambaxiZe,<br />
zambaxiZe,<br />
zambaxiZe,<br />
zambaxiZe,<br />
lika lika lika lika lika amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
amiraSvili<br />
lika lika amiraSvilis amiraSvilis fotoebi<br />
fotoebi<br />
fotoebi<br />
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_ _ _ ra ra roli roli roli Seasrula Seasrula Tqvens Tqvens cxovrebaSi cxovrebaSi ansambl ansambl `mziurSi~ `mziurSi~ moRvaweobam?<br />
moRvaweobam?<br />
_ es iyo Cemi erT-erTi pirveli `cxovreba,~ lamazi zRapari, romelic TiTqmis aT wels gagrZelda.<br />
Zalian bevri ram maswavla `mziurma,~ pirvel yovlisa _pasuxismgebloba, Sromismoyvareoba,<br />
urTierTpativiscema, pirveli megobroba, rasac hqvia pativiscema, mofereba da, rac mTavaria, cocxal<br />
musikasTan ziareba, rac dRes, samwuxarod, ar arsebobs qarTul, egreT wodebul, SoubiznesSi. Tu<br />
cocxali sityva musikasTan harmoniulad ar aris Sejerebuli, maSin amas hqvia didi tyuili, rac arc<br />
Tu iSviaTia Cveni Semsruleblebis praqtikaSi.<br />
`mziurma~ gvaswavla musika, qarTuli simRera, qarTuli suli STabera TiToeul patara gogonas.<br />
daaxloebiT daaxloebiT 40 40 wlis wlis winaT, winaT, winaT, ansambli<br />
ansambli<br />
`mziuri~ `mziuri~ did did aRfrTovanebas aRfrTovanebas iwvevda iwvevda<br />
iwvevda<br />
sazogadoebaSi. sazogadoebaSi. yvela yvela icnobda icnobda maT<br />
maT<br />
Semoqmedebas Semoqmedebas da da aqtiurad<br />
aqtiurad<br />
gulSematkivrobda. gulSematkivrobda. amdeni amdeni wlis wlis Semdeg<br />
Semdeg<br />
ansambli ansambli bavSvobaSi bavSvobaSi dabrunda dabrunda da da Tavi<br />
Tavi<br />
Segvaxsena Segvaxsena SesaniSnavi SesaniSnavi koncertiT, koncertiT, romlis<br />
romlis<br />
Semdegac Semdegac `mziuris~ `mziuris~ varskvlavi varskvlavi gaixsna.<br />
gaixsna.<br />
gTavazobT gTavazobT saubars saubars ansamblis ansamblis erT-erT<br />
erT-erT<br />
wevrTan wevrTan _ _ qalbaton qalbaton lia lia xorbalaZesTan,<br />
xorbalaZesTan,<br />
romelic romelic ansamblSi ansamblSi dasartyam<br />
dasartyam<br />
instrumentze instrumentze ukravda.<br />
ukravda.<br />
_ _ albaT, albaT, sirTuleebic sirTuleebic axlda axlda `mziurSi~ `mziurSi~ yofnas...<br />
yofnas...<br />
_ Zalian daZabuli reJimi gvqonda, yvela warCinebiT vswavlobdiT. ramdenimem oqros medalze<br />
davamTavreT saSualo skola. mogexsenebaT, musika Zalian did Zalisxmevasa da Sromismoyvareobas<br />
moiTxovs. pionerTa sasaxleSi bevri wre iyo: mxatvruli kiTxvis, operetis... davdiodiT musikalur<br />
skolaSic, cekvazec...hoda, didi udrooba gvqonda yvelas: Cawerebi, koncertebi, repeticiebi...<br />
dRes Camweri studiebi mowesrigebulia. garedan didi xmauri xelisSemSleli ar aris. maSin ki ar<br />
arsebobda kompiuteri, winwasuli teqnologiebi, riTac es yvelaferi mowesrigdeboda. iyo mxolod<br />
studia ‘melodia,~ saburTaloze da Canawerebi gvian RamiT mimdinareobda, rodesac transportic ki ar<br />
moZraobda, rom zedmeti xma ar Sesuliyo. TiTo bgeras ki ar werdnen adrindeli Semsruleblebi,<br />
rogorc es axla xdeba, aramed simRera Tavidan bolomde iwereboda da cocxali emocia pirdapir<br />
Caweris dros modioda.<br />
xandaxan dReSi sami koncerti gvqonda. xSirad qalaqidan gavdiodiT da, amitom skolas vacdendiT,<br />
magram, rac ufro metad viyaviT dakavebuli, miT ufro mets vaswrebdiT. skolaSi yvela Segvnatroda,<br />
lia lia xorbalaZis xorbalaZis `sicocxlis `sicocxlis dRiuri~<br />
dRiuri~<br />
radgan mravali qveyana moviareT. sxvanairad lamazi da saintereso bavSvoba gavatareT. magram yovelTvis<br />
menatreboda qarTuli sofeli da bebo-papa, romlebic sofelSi mouTmenlad melodnen. mitacebda<br />
imitomac, rom amas moklebuli viyavi mouclelobis gamo...<br />
_ _ _ aris aris aris Tu Tu ara ara iseTi iseTi ram, ram, risi risi gakeTebac gakeTebac gindodaT gindodaT ansamblSi ansamblSi yofnisas yofnisas yofnisas da da ver<br />
ver<br />
SeZeliT?<br />
SeZeliT?<br />
_ vfiqrob, `mziurS~ niWi da unari bolomde ver gamovavline. Tumca mqonda amis saSualeba,<br />
survili da, albaT, SesaZleblobac. Zalian bevrma kompetenturma adamianma miTxra, rom SemeZlo<br />
sxvadasxva JanrSi momesinja Tavi, ara marto dasartyam instrumentze, an erTi da ori simRera<br />
Semesrulebina. iyo iseTi Janrebi, rogoricaa imitacia, simReris saxasiaTo Sesruleba, cekva... albaT,<br />
ase unda warmarTuliyo Cemi cxovreba ‘mziurSi.~<br />
Semdeg, rodesac `buratino~ daidga, vasrulebdi uborotesi kacis yarabas-barabasis rols, romelic<br />
Tojinebs iparavs da aravis aZlevs. iq unda memRera, mesaubra kacis xmiT da Tan Zalian boroti da<br />
saSineli arseba vyofiliyavi, rac, rogorc aRmoCnda, gamomivida. leningradSi, koncertis bolos,<br />
rodesac yarabas-barabasi gamodis da ambobs: `damibruneT Cemi Tojinebi, es Cemi Tojinebia da aravis<br />
aqvs ufleba waiyvanos,~ patarebs eSinodaT da tirodnen.<br />
_ _ ratom ratom ratom airCieT airCieT dasartyami dasartyami instrumenti?<br />
instrumenti?<br />
instrumenti?<br />
_ sxvadasxva JReradobis dolis danaxvam mosveneba damakargvina.<br />
imis miuxedavad, rom Zalian patara _ rva wlis viyavi, maSin gadavwyvite: Tu davukravdi, mxolod<br />
am instrumentze. fortepianoze davdiodi da, roca miTxres, rom araCveulebrivi instrumentia, denze<br />
SeaerTeb da kargi xmebi aqvso, es ukve vici-meTqi, xeli Caviqnie;<br />
Semdeg damanaxes eleqtrogitara, amazec uari vTqvi, magram rodesac dolze ramdenime ritmi<br />
momasmenines da maCvenes, rogor sruldeboda, maSinve mominda meswavla da, albaT, gamomivida, Torem<br />
mayurebeli ar meyoleboda. etyoba, Sinaganad mainc riTmuli bavSvi viyavi. Cemi mamiko araCveulebrivad<br />
flobs qarTul dols, gansakuTrebuli riTmis grZnoba aqvs. qarTuli ritmi SeiZleba sxvadasxvanairad<br />
daukra, mama kidev gansxvavebulad asrulebs. vfiqrob, mamis geni maqvs. albaT, misgan damyva es niWi.<br />
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_ _ musikis musikis musikis garda garda ra ra gitacebdaT, gitacebdaT, Tqven Tqven xom xom maSin maSin maSin Zalian Zalian patara patara iyaviT?<br />
iyaviT?<br />
_ sakmaod sportuli adamiani var. Zalian miyvars fexburTi. Cemi ufrosi Zma _ daviT xorbalaZe<br />
fexburTeli iyo. wlebis ganmavlobaSi TamaSobda `dinamoSi,~ Semdeg ki miSa mesxis mier daarsebul<br />
gund `avazaSi~ gadavida da maT arcerT varjiSs ar vacdendi, vvarjiSobdi mindors miRma. erTxel<br />
gazeTSic ki movxvdi, rogorc fexburTis didi gulSematkivari, ‘momavali fexburTeli.<br />
aseve, Zalian miyvars karate. samwuxarod, gogonaTa fexburTis msgavsad, arc sportis es saxeoba<br />
arsebobda maSin. Zalian vnanob, rom ver daveufle aRmosavlur orTabrZolebs, Tumca, araferia<br />
dakarguli. miyvars xelsaqme, ikebanas keTeba, qargva (vqargav xatebs), Tumca, vxatav-meTqi, ver<br />
getyviT...<br />
vwer bavSvobidan. SeiZleba amas `sicocxlis dRiuri~ ewodos. es ar gulisxmobs imas, rom: `avdeqi<br />
am dros, am saaTze wavedi da movedi...~ erTi winadadeba SeiZleba mTeli dRis axsna-ganmarteba iyos.<br />
patara rom viyavi, dedas dauwyia wera da mere me gavagrZele.<br />
Zalian bevri simRera davwere, uamravi cnobili momRerali mReris Cems teqstebze.<br />
mTavaria saqmis keTeba, da ara misi afiSireba. Tu vinmes moewona, es CemTvis bevrs niSnavs. Zalian<br />
miyvars samzareuloSi triali da kerZebis damzadeba.<br />
_ _ ra ra ra grZnoba grZnoba dageuflaT dageuflaT 39 39 39 wlis wlis Semdeg Semdeg `mziuris~ `mziuris~ wevrebTan wevrebTan Sexvedrisas?<br />
Sexvedrisas?<br />
_ `mziuris~ oTaxSi Sesvlis wuTidan yvela davbrundiT bavSvobaSi; repeticiebis erTma Tvem da<br />
koncertma damaviwya ara marto Cemi asaki, aramed - yvelaferi, rac scenis miRma arsebobda. is patara,<br />
10-11 wlis gogona viyavi, romelic ukve fexmagari da welgamarTuli idga scenaze, ukravda da mReroda,<br />
yvelafers akeTebda mxolod mayureblisTvis. dResac rom Sevdivar Cems uniWieres moswavleebTan (15<br />
welia musikalur studia `bomboras~ vxelmZRvanelob), iqac sakuTari Tavi bavSvi mgonia.<br />
es aris, albaT, RmerTisgan nawyalobevi bedniereba, rom viyo im asakis, visTanac urTierToba maqvs.<br />
studentebTanac maTi asakis var da Zalian mSvelis...<br />
_ _ surdaT surdaT Tu Tu ara ara Tqvens Tqvens Tqvens Svilebs, Svilebs, dauflebodnen dauflebodnen xelovnebis xelovnebis romelime romelime dargs? dargs?<br />
dargs?<br />
_ samive Svili mReris. gogonam daamTavra konservatoria, magistratura sagundo-sadiriJoro<br />
ganxriT. araCveulebrivad ukravs, mReris, wers simRerebs. tyupi vaJebic mRerian, Zalian musikalurebi<br />
arian. aseve, SviliSvilsac musikis niWi dahyva...<br />
_ _ ras ras ras usurvebT usurvebT `mziuris~ `mziuris~ momaval momaval momaval Taobas?<br />
Taobas?<br />
_ axal Taobas vusurvebdi im sixarulisa da siamovnebis gancdas, rasac cocxali musikisa da<br />
simReris Sesruleba hqvia. is saxeli gaemarTlebinoT, romelic pirvel `mziurs~ hqonda da risTvisac<br />
varskvlavi gaixsna (daTo oqitaSvilis meTaurobiT yvelas Zalian didi madloba, vinc es gaakeTa).<br />
minda vusurvo patara `mziurs,~ rom maTi mosmenisas ar Tqvan, pirveli sul sxva iyoo. yvelam<br />
Tavisi biliki patara `fexuniebiT~ unda gaiaros, aucileblad unda Seayvaros mayurebels Tavi. magram<br />
bavSvebi amas ver SeZleben, Tu am yvelafers sworad ar aswavli da xels ar Seuwyob. yvelaze didi,<br />
rac minda vusurvo ara marto `mziurelebs,~ saerTod, yvelas, vinc scenaze dgas _ gulwrfeloba da<br />
Tavisuflebaa! unda giyvardeT, rasac akeTebT scenaze; Tu ar daijereb, rom xalxisTvis mReri, xalxi<br />
ver migiRebs...<br />
esaubra<br />
esaubra<br />
elene elene elene elene elene naxucriSvili<br />
naxucriSvili<br />
naxucriSvili<br />
naxucriSvili<br />
naxucriSvili<br />
(dasawyisi (dasawyisi ixile ixile 35-e 35-e gv.)<br />
gv.)<br />
redaqtorebma zogierTi leqsi wina krebulisTvis daiwunes, mainc gamovcem, radgan Zalian Zvirfasia<br />
CemTvis. ramdenad misaRebi iqneba mkiTxvelisTvis, sxva saqmea. bolos da bolos, es xom samecniero<br />
naSromi ar aris, vinme SecdomaSi Seiyvanos. es aris Cemi naazrevi, pozicia, romelsac an moiwoneben<br />
an _ daiwuneben.<br />
minaweri minaweri: minaweri mec axlaxan gavecani batoni jemalis Semoqmedebas da davinaxe misi gansakuTrebulad<br />
faqizi damokidebuleba poeziisadmi. TiTqos es aris saSualeba, gamoxatos didi siyvaruli samSoblosa<br />
da yvelafer mSobliurisadmi:<br />
yvela qarTveli poetiao,<br />
qarTvelT poeti _ orjer poeti,<br />
me qarTvelobas vikmareb mxolod,<br />
sxva ram simdidre ar minda meti.<br />
striqonebSi ar igrZnoba mxolod maRali materiebis wvdomis ambicia, piriqiT, saocari Tavmdablobis<br />
gamoxatulebaa. ubraloebiT aRsavse mis boboqar fiqrebSi krTeba samSoblo, siyvaruli, mSoblebi,<br />
Svilebi, adamianuri Rirsebebi... da Cven, studentebic ar vaviwydebiT:<br />
cxovrebis talRas ar CamorCe, fexi auwyve,<br />
Tavi anebe dards da Civils, sibrZnes gauwyeb!<br />
ara, ar Sedrke da ikmare lukma RvTiuri!<br />
me CamCurCulebs da mamxnevebs xma zeciuri!<br />
esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra lika lika lika lika lika zambaxiZe<br />
zambaxiZe<br />
zambaxiZe<br />
zambaxiZe<br />
zambaxiZe<br />
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Tbilisma msoflios<br />
kanadis,<br />
axalgazrduli alafis<br />
gaTamaSebas umaspinZla<br />
turnirSi, romelic 2012<br />
wels samxreT afrikaSi gasamarTi<br />
msoflios Cempionatis SesarCevi<br />
Sejibrebaa, 8 gundi monawileobda:<br />
aSS-s, samoas, ruseTis, zimbabves, urugvais,<br />
iaponiisa da saqarTvelos 20-wlamde asakis nakrebebis<br />
dapirispirebaSi gamarjvebul elitaSi TamaSis uflebas moipovebda.<br />
TamaSebi ZiriTadad `avWalis saragbo stadionze~ gaimarTa, ramdenime TamaSi ki<br />
`Sevardenis sanakrebo bazaze~ Catarda. `msoflios axalgazrduli alafi~ iseTi donis<br />
Sejibrebaa, romlis msgavsic damoukidebeli saqarTvelos istoriaSi arasdros gamarTula.<br />
es aris msoflio Cempionatis SesarCevi turniri, da sakmaod maRali donis gundebi asparezoben.<br />
amitom Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo turniri uzadod Catarebuliyo.<br />
saqarTveloSi Camodis sxvadasxva kontinentis, kulturisa da mentalitetis qveyanaTa nakrebi,<br />
romelTa umravlesobas saqarTveloze aranairi informacia ar hqonda. maT yvela nabijze unda davanaxoT<br />
Cveni keTilganwyoba. Tu turnirma kargi Sefaseba miiRo, momavalSi ufro maRali rangis TamaSebis<br />
Catarebis uflebas mogvcemen. maT Soris SesaZloa, saqarTvelom 2013 wlis axalgazrdul msoflio<br />
Cempionatsac umaspinZlos.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebTan erTad jgufSi moxvdnen:<br />
kanadis, zimbambves da iaponiis nakrebebi. jgufis<br />
udavo favoritad iaponiis nakrebi iTvleboda. maT<br />
gadamwyvet matCSi saqarTvelos nakrebi daamarcxes<br />
(29:14) da finalSi asparezobis ufleba moipoves,<br />
sadac maTi metoqe `b~ jgufis<br />
gamarjvebulis samoas nakrebi<br />
gaxldaT.<br />
Tbilisis 20-wlamdelTa<br />
alafi samoam moigo da<br />
gaisad, samxreT afrikaSi,<br />
msoflio Tasis finalur<br />
etapze TamaSis<br />
uflebac miopoves. principSi samoas<br />
nakrebi Tavidanve turniris favoritad<br />
miiCneoda da am gundis warmatebas bevri<br />
varaudobda. egaa, qarTvelebs<br />
gvsurda saqarTvelos nakrebi gvexila,<br />
magram ase ar gamovida. oqros medlebisTvis<br />
brZolaSi erTmaneTs samoa da iaponia daupirispirda.<br />
gundebma mayurebels SesaniSnavi ragbi uCvenes. TamaSSi<br />
8 lelo gavida da qomags mosawyenad namdvilad ar ecala.<br />
matCis debiutSi samoelebi odnav dabneulobi Candnen. xazSi did sivrceebs<br />
tovebdnen, riTic kargad isargebles iaponelebma da orjer gaarRvies metoqis<br />
dacviTi zRudeebi. amas nakamuram erTi jarimac miayola da iaponias sul raRac 12 wuTi dasWirda,<br />
rom matCSi solidurad dawinaurebuliyo (17:0), magram samoam SesZlo matCSi gardatexis Setana da 32<br />
wuTisTvis dawinaurdnen (19:17).<br />
am warmatebis miuxedavad, matCi daZabulad viTardeboda. gadamwyveti lelo msajis mier kompensirebul<br />
droSi peter Sesterma gaitana, romelmac kargad isargebla iaponiis SecdomiT da Setevis marcxena<br />
kideze daamiwa burTi. dramatul finalSi samoam gaimarjva angariSiT _ 31:24. mesame adgilisTvis<br />
SexvedraSi saqarTvelos nakrebma urugvai daamarcxa ( 20:15). pirvelive taimSi Tavi gamoiCines levan<br />
CilaCavam da uCa mWedliSvilma, meore taimi saqarTvelos nakrebma sustad Caatara, magram angariSis<br />
SenarCuneba SeZles da mesame adgils dasjerdnen.<br />
daTo daTo daTo daTo daTo meliva meliva meliva<br />
meliva meliva<br />
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a aris `vanos Sous~ warmatebis saidumlo? vin arian is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic am proeqts qmnian da ras ambobs Tavad wamyvani jiut<br />
respodentebze _ am da sxva sakiTxebze vesaubreT baton vano javaxiSvils.<br />
gTavazobT am intervius.<br />
_ _ _ Tqveni Tqveni Tqveni Tqveni Tqveni kariera kariera kariera kariera kariera `SabaTis `SabaTis `SabaTis `SabaTis `SabaTis Soudan” Soudan” Soudan” Soudan” Soudan” daiwyo. daiwyo. daiwyo. daiwyo. daiwyo.<br />
moulodneli moulodneli moulodneli moulodneli moulodneli iyo iyo iyo iyo iyo Tu Tu Tu Tu Tu ara, ara, ara, ara, ara, rodesac rodesac rodesac rodesac rodesac `Ramis `Ramis `Ramis `Ramis `Ramis<br />
Sous~ Sous~ Sous~ Sous~ Sous~ wamyvanoba wamyvanoba wamyvanoba wamyvanoba wamyvanoba SemogTavazes?<br />
SemogTavazes?<br />
SemogTavazes?<br />
SemogTavazes?<br />
SemogTavazes?<br />
_ aranairad ar movelodi. CemTvis<br />
warmoudgeneli iyo mayureblis winaSe am ampluiT<br />
wardgena, radgan es didi pasuxismgeblobaa. Zalian<br />
bevri adamiani ismens da ijerebs Sens laparaks da<br />
dRemde, gasvlis win yovelTvis vnerviulob, rom<br />
mayurebelma rame arasworad ar gaigos.<br />
rac Seexeba `komedi Sous~ (maSin “SabaTis<br />
Sou” erqva), iq moRvaweoba gacilebiT martivi<br />
iyo. ubralod socialur xumrobebs<br />
ambobdi,zogierT tipaJs asaxierebdi. mayurebeli<br />
uyurebda, siamovnebasac iRebda da erToboda kidec.<br />
`vanos Sou~-Si garTobac aris da, iumoris garda,<br />
sainformacio datvirTvac aqvs. Cven viRebT kviris<br />
Temas da masze vakeTebT gadacemas. xSirad<br />
mayurebeli arc naxulobs sainformacio gamoSvebas<br />
da icis, rom `vanos Sou~-dan Seityobs kviris<br />
siaxleebs.<br />
_ ra ra sirTuleebs sirTuleebs sirTuleebs sirTuleebs sirTuleebs ukavSirdeba ukavSirdeba ukavSirdeba ukavSirdeba ukavSirdeba Ggadacemis<br />
Ggadacemis<br />
Ggadacemis<br />
Ggadacemis<br />
Ggadacemis<br />
momzadeba?<br />
momzadeba?<br />
momzadeba?<br />
momzadeba?<br />
momzadeba?<br />
_ Ggadacemis Cawera sakmaod rTulia, Cven<br />
Zalian swraf reJimSi vmuSaobT. Tu gadacema<br />
paraskevs 2 saaTze Cavwere, eTerSi paraskevs<br />
saRamosve unda gavides. paraskevs imitom vwerT,<br />
rom MmTeli kviris siaxleebi gaviTvaliswinoT,<br />
raTa gadacema aqtualuri iyos. Tu araferia<br />
aqtualuri, maSin stumrad viwvevT iseT pirovnebas,<br />
visac yvela icnobs. magaliTad, niWieridan romelime<br />
gamorCeuli konkursanti yovelTvis mogvyavda, rom<br />
mayurebels ukeT gaecno.<br />
_ _ `vanos `vanos `vanos Sou~-Si Sou~-Si mosuli mosuli stumari,<br />
stumari,<br />
faqtobrivad, faqtobrivad, Tqveni Tqveni Tanawamyvani Tanawamyvani xdeba. xdeba. Tu<br />
Tu<br />
yofila yofila iseTi iseTi SemTxveva, SemTxveva, roca roca raRac raRac ar<br />
ar<br />
gamosula, gamosula, saxaliso saxaliso saxaliso istoria istoria mouyolia mouyolia da<br />
da<br />
xalxs xalxs ar ar gascinebia.<br />
gascinebia.<br />
_ aseTi ram xSirad xdeba da mdgomareoba isev<br />
me gamomisworebia eqspromtad mofiqrebuli<br />
xumrobiT. SesaZlebelia vinme damatebiTi personaJic<br />
SemoviyvanoT.<br />
_ erT- erT- erTi erTi yvelaze yvelaze gamorCeuli gamorCeuli gamorCeuli stumris,<br />
stumris,<br />
vano vano merabiSvilis merabiSvilis gadacemaSi gadacemaSi mowveva mowveva<br />
mowveva<br />
wamyvanis wamyvanis wamyvanis statusiT, statusiT, statusiT, visi visi idea idea idea iyo? iyo?<br />
iyo?<br />
_ Cveni SemoqmedebiTi jgufis idea iyo. aqve<br />
minda avRniSno, rom Cvens garda es ambavi aravin ar<br />
icoda _ arc operatorebma, arc dacvam,<br />
absoluturad aravin. vfiqrob, Zalian saxaliso<br />
43<br />
vano javaxiSvili:<br />
`Cemi `Cemi sayvareli<br />
sayvareli<br />
respodenti<br />
respodenti<br />
respodenti<br />
kaxi<br />
kaxi<br />
kavsaZea~<br />
kavsaZea~<br />
gamovida da, rac yvelaze mTavaria, mayurebels<br />
uaryofiTad ar miuRia. Bbewvis xidi gaviareT,<br />
rom mayureblisTvis gamaRizianebeli da<br />
araseriozuli ar yofiliyo. Bbatoni vano Zalian<br />
kargad agvyva, mSvenivrad ixumra... stumrebTan<br />
aqtiurobda, teqstSi saerTod ar Cauxedavs.<br />
_ Zalian Zalian bevri bevri iumoristuli iumoristuli gadacema<br />
gadacema<br />
iqmneba iqmneba da da maleve maleve maleve ixureba. ixureba. `komedi `komedi Sou~ Sou~<br />
Sou~<br />
da da da `vanos `vanos Sou~ Sou~ ki ki ki ukve ukve ukve wlebis wlebis wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ganmavlobaSi<br />
agrZelebs agrZelebs arsebobas. arsebobas. rogor rogor axerxebT axerxebT amdeni<br />
amdeni<br />
wlis wlis ganmavlobaSi ganmavlobaSi reitingis reitingis SenarCunebas?<br />
SenarCunebas?<br />
_ amerikis SeerTebul StatebSic da<br />
saqarTveloSic es proeqtebi kvlavac grZeldeba.<br />
Ees aris daformatebuli proeqtebi, romlebic<br />
Zalian didi xania muSaobs. aseTi tipis `Souebi~<br />
60-iani wlebidan specialurad Seiqmna imisTvis,<br />
rom vietnamTan omis dros xalxs yuradReba sxva<br />
rameze gadaetana. Cvenc zustad maTi msgavsi<br />
principiT vmuSaobT.<br />
proeqtma rom iarsebos, aqtualuri movlenebi<br />
unda asaxos. `komedi Sou~-sac es funqcia aqvs.<br />
magaliTad, gaixsna axali sapatrulo policiis<br />
Senoba, uceb sketCi gvaqvs axali sapatrulo<br />
policiis Senobis gaxsnaze, romelime ministri<br />
raRacas ilaparakebs da Cven ukve gaSarJebuli<br />
gvyavs. Aamas Zalian didi mniSvneloba aqvs. roca<br />
sketCi araaqtualur Temaze dagvidgams, Cveulebrivi<br />
- arc cudi da arc kargi gamosula, magram iseTi<br />
ara, xalxi rom aelaparakebina.
_ vin vin vin arian arian is is adamianebi, adamianebi, adamianebi, vinc vinc vinc qmnis qmnis `vanos<br />
`vanos _ `komedi `komedi Sou`-s Sou`-s hqonda hqonda hqonda Cavardna. Cavardna. rogor rogor<br />
rogor<br />
Sou~-s Sou~-s da da `komedi `komedi Sou~-s Sou~-s ?<br />
?<br />
moaxerxeT moaxerxeT krizisidan krizisidan gamosvla?<br />
gamosvla?<br />
_ Cven - yvela scenaristebi varT. vinc gundSi _ zogs aqvs ayvavebis xana, zogs - Cavardnis. ra<br />
gvyavs da visac ekranze xedavT, absoluturad yvela Tqma unda, krizisis periodi yvelas udgeba. Zalian<br />
wers scenars. samuSaod ar agvyavs iseTi pirovneba, bevrs vSromobdiT, maSinac da axlac. dRe da rame<br />
visac mxolod TamaSi SeuZlia. Aarsebobs ramdenime vmuSaobT, koncertebi Tu aris, maSin arc gvZinavs,<br />
adamiani, romelic kulisebs miRmaa da maT mxolod vwerT, vwerT, vwerT. erTaderTi gamosavali bevri<br />
scenaris wera evalebaT. isinic absoluturad yvela muSaoba, ufro saintereso ideebi, meti Sous<br />
proeqtze muSaoben. me, magaliTad, `vanos Sous~ elementebi, aqtualur movlenebze awyobili<br />
garda vmuSaob proeqtebze: `komedi Sou,~ `daamarcxe gadacemebia.<br />
varskvlavi~ da `Tqveni Sou.~<br />
_ `komedi `komedi Sou~-s Sou~-s monawileebi monawileebi profesiiT<br />
profesiiT<br />
_ vin vin vin aris aris Tqveni Tqveni sayvareli sayvareli respodenti?<br />
respodenti?<br />
respodenti? msaxiobebi msaxiobebi arian?<br />
arian?<br />
_Myvelgan vambob da axlac gavimeoreb, rom _Amxolod sami kaci_ vaxo biWikaSvili, TaTia<br />
Cemi sayvareli respodenti aris kaxi kavsaZe. piradad suluaSvili da eka afSilava. Eeseni arian<br />
mivdivar masTan saxlSi, iq vawyobT da vanawilebT Teatraluris xalxi, romlebTanac Tavidan Zalian<br />
yvelafers. yovelTvis Zalian momzadebuli modis gagviWirda muSaoba, imitom rom maT sul sxva<br />
da gadacemac kargi gamodis. imedia, aravin miwyens, sferoSi mouwiaT muSaoba. Yyvelas hgonia, rom<br />
magram baton kaxis axlos veravis davayeneb. msaxiobebi varT, magram Cven teleekranis msaxiobebi<br />
_ _ _ Tqven Tqven xSirad xSirad xalisobT xalisobT telekompania<br />
telekompania varT da ar gvaqvs Teatraluris ambiciebi.<br />
`imedi~-s `imedi~-s reitingulobaze. reitingulobaze. realurad realurad vin<br />
vin yovelTvis aris raRac protesti Teatraluri<br />
adgens adgens adgens reitingebs reitingebs da, da, Tqveni Tqveni azriT, azriT, romelia<br />
romelia samyarodan, rom ar varT profesionalebi da amas<br />
yvelaze yvelaze reitinguli reitinguli reitinguli iumoristuli iumoristuli Sou Sou<br />
Sou vambobT kidec. Cven vqmniT mxolod iumors,<br />
qarTul qarTul telesivrceSi?<br />
telesivrceSi?<br />
mets arafers.<br />
_Eeg rom simarTle yofiliyo, magaze<br />
_ _ _ Tqvens Tqvens gundSi gundSi vis<br />
vis<br />
xumrobebs ar avkenwlidiT.<br />
miiCnevT miiCnevT yvelaze yvelaze niWier niWier<br />
niWier<br />
`imedma~ sxvanairad<br />
msaxiobad, msaxiobad, vinc vinc rols<br />
rols<br />
daiangariSa<br />
yvelaze yvelaze iolad iolad iTvisebs? iTvisebs?<br />
iTvisebs?<br />
reitingi. maT<br />
_ absoluturad yvela<br />
daiangariSes<br />
maTgani niWieria, magram,<br />
`praim taim-<br />
Cemi azriT, yvelaze<br />
Si”gasuli da<br />
niWieri miSa andRulaZea.<br />
misi gameorebebi<br />
es aris adamiani,<br />
Seajama erTmaneTs.<br />
romelsac SeuZlia yvela<br />
`imeds~ gameorebebi<br />
tipaJis rolis morgeba.<br />
aqvs `praim taim~-Si,<br />
_ _ ra ra azris<br />
azris<br />
Cven `praim taim~-Si<br />
xarT xarT xarT `kaveenis~<br />
`kaveenis~<br />
`kaveenis~<br />
ar gvaqvs, gvaqvs<br />
axal axal Taobaze?<br />
Taobaze?<br />
SuadRis zonaSi, off-<br />
_ `kaveen~-ze ar SeiZleba cudis Tqma,<br />
praimSi da swored<br />
es iyo studentobis erT -erTi saukeTeso periodi<br />
amitom Cveni saSualo gamodioda Cems cxovrebaSi. roca Cven gamovdiodiT, maSin<br />
naklebi, `imedi~-s kide didi. rac Seexeba gundSi mxolod sami kaci viyaviT. kritikulad<br />
reitingul iumoristul Sous, ar movityuebi, aris ver Sevafaseb, ra Tqma unda, done asamaRlebelia<br />
`komedi Sou.~<br />
da xumrobebic dasaxvewia. sul Cven vCanvarT ekranze,<br />
_ _ Zalian Zalian bevri bevri adamiani adamiani gyoliaT<br />
gyoliaT xalxi Cvens iumorsaa miCveuli, amitom roca gamodis<br />
mowveuli. mowveuli. Tu Tu arsebobs arsebobs arsebobs iseTi iseTi respodenti,<br />
respodenti, viRac patara studenti, egreve Cveni simaRlidan<br />
vinc vinc stumrobaze stumrobaze stumrobaze ver ver daiTanxmeT?<br />
daiTanxmeT?<br />
adareben. arada Cveni simaRlidan ver daiwyebs,<br />
_Kki rogor ara, batoni mixeil saakaSvili, jer unda dabali safexuridan daiwyos, romelsac<br />
Salva naTelaSvili, zviad ZiZiguri, daviT aqubardia Zalian didi protesti moyveba, Semdeg nel-nela,<br />
da gubaz sanikiZe. Zalian bevri gamoxmaurebaa, raRac periodis Semdeg izrdeba da dgeba Cvens<br />
ratom mohyavs sul mTavrobis wevrebio?! Aarada, doneze.<br />
mayurebelma ar icis, rom absoluturad yvelasTan ase rom, Sefaseba eseni cudebi arian - Zalian<br />
vrekav, opoziciasTanac, poziciasTanac. magaliTad, didi Secdomaa. bavSvebs ganviTarebis saSualeba<br />
Salva naTelaSvilTan ramdenjerme davreke, erTxel<br />
ki ara Zalian bevrjer, magram ar Taxmdeba. gubaz<br />
unda mivceT.<br />
sanikiZem ki ganacxada, saqarTveloSi axla iseTi<br />
mdgomareobaa, rom ver movalo.<br />
esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra esaubra mariam mariam mariam mariam mariam burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
burduli<br />
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olo dros didi aJiotaJia atexili meored<br />
mosvlasTan dakavSirebiT. jer iyo da 2012-Si<br />
`iwinaswarmetyveles~ misi dadgoma, sul cota xnis<br />
winaT ki televiziiT gavrcelda informacia, am<br />
TariRma ori saukuniT gadaiwiao.<br />
eSmakma kargad uwyis Cveni susti mxare da<br />
swored iqidan gvitevs. ar vicnobT RmerTs, arc<br />
vcdilobT gavicnoT da SeviyvaroT. cru<br />
winaswarmetyvelebis ufro gvjera.<br />
axal aRTqmaSi ieso qriste ambobs, rom drosa<br />
da TariRze ar aris saWiro laparaki, meored<br />
mosvlis zusti dro mxolod mama RmerTma iciso.<br />
Cveni mizanic TariRis dadgena ki ara, im dRisTvis<br />
Cveni sulebis momzadeba, ganwmenda da RvTisaTvis<br />
mosawon adamianebad Cveni Camoyalibeba unda iyos.<br />
meored mosvlasTan dakavSirebiT SegviZlia<br />
gavixsenoT ramdenime winaswarmetyveleba wminda<br />
mamebis cxovrebidan.<br />
wminda nilos mironmdinaris winaswarmetyvelebis<br />
mixedviT, qristianuli eklesiisgan ganmdgar<br />
adamianTa umravlesoba mTlianad Caifloba codvaTa<br />
morevSi, da swored amis gamo gaxSirdeba stiqiebi,<br />
daiZabeba da daiWimeba planetebi da dro daCqardeba.<br />
weli gaxdeba rogorc Tve, Tve rogorc kvira,<br />
kvira rogorc dRe. dResdReobiT, wlis sezonebi,<br />
marTlac, isea SekumSuli, rom gazafxuli ar aris<br />
mosuli, zafxuli dgeba, Semodgoma ar mosula da<br />
zamTari karze gvikakunebs.<br />
wminda werilis Tanaxmad, meored mosvlas win<br />
unda uZRodes 42 Tvis anu 1260 dRis e.i.<br />
samweliwadnaxevris manZilze cru mesiis batonoba<br />
mTel dedamiwaze. es iqneba saSineli dReebi<br />
kacobriobis arsebobis manZilze. ioanes<br />
gamocxadebidan vigebT: rom ara RmerTis keTili<br />
neba, verc erTi adamiani ver gadarCeboda. yvelas<br />
gauCndeba aseTi kiTxva, ki magram, ra vqnaT? ra<br />
gveSveleba? riTi unda davicvaT Tavi? isev da<br />
isev uflis saxelis moxmobiT, radgan igi<br />
Segvagonebs: momixme gaWirvebis Jams da SenTan<br />
viqnebi, momiaxlovdi, raTa mec mogiaxlovde,<br />
mobrundi Cemsken, rom mec movbrunde Sensken.<br />
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`SeinanieT, SeinanieT,<br />
rameTu<br />
rameTu<br />
moaxloebul moaxloebul ars<br />
ars<br />
sasufeveli sasufeveli caTai~<br />
caTai~<br />
XVIII saukuneSi mcxovrebi wminda kozma<br />
etolelis winaswarmetyvelebis Tanaxmad, iseTi<br />
dro dadgeba, adamianebi urTierTdaSorebuli<br />
qveynebidan ise isaubreben, TiTqos, gverdigverd<br />
ganlagebul oTaxebSi isxdnen. e.i. civilizaciis<br />
ganviTarebis fonze, SeikumSeba ara marto dro,<br />
aramed - sivrcec.<br />
radgan dRes, marTlac, sxvadasxva kontinetze<br />
myofni erTmaneTs ara marto velaparakebiT, aramed<br />
vuyurebT da vxedavT, es yovelive _ telefonis,<br />
mobiluris, radios, kompiuteris, TviTmfrinavis,<br />
raketis gamogoneba adamianebs sulierad ki ar<br />
aaxloebs, aramed kidev ufro metad aSorebs.<br />
gadametebuli komforti rogorc Sinaganad, ise<br />
fizikurad auZlurebs, azarmacebs adamians. garegani<br />
keTildReobiT, xSirad, Sinaganze vambobT uars da<br />
masTan erTad vkargavT RvTiur simarTles, mSvidobas,<br />
sixaruls da sulierad gaRatakebuli da<br />
gamocarielebuli vrCebiT. aseT dros, rac ufro<br />
myife gaxdeba garegani keTildReoba, SefardebiTi<br />
faseuloba, miT ufro male dasruldeba dro da<br />
dadgeba Jami maradisobisa, romelSic dro ki ar<br />
gaCerdeba, gaqreba. amitom vifiqroT da kargad<br />
gaviazroT uflis Segoneba: SeinanieT, rameTu<br />
moaxloebul ars sasufeveli caTa (luka. 13.3).<br />
`aha, moval adre da misi saqmisaebr mivageb<br />
yovels.~ XXI saukuneSi gansakuTrebiT SegveSinda<br />
am mosvlis. zedmiwevniT sruldeba uflis sityvebi.<br />
TiToeuli wuTiT vuaxlovdebiT Cveni codvebiT<br />
damaxinjebuli samyaros logikur dasasruls.<br />
ramdenadac samarTliania es fraza, imdenad mZafria<br />
SiSi gankiTxvisa da pasuxismgeblobis mimarT.<br />
samwuxaroa, rom adamianuri buneba ar gvaZlevs<br />
damSvidebis saSualebas. vzrunavT momavalze, roca<br />
Seucnobel warsulze damyarebuli awmyo Tavze<br />
gvengreva. am situaciisaTvis Seuferebelia SiSi<br />
tkivilisa da arastabilurobisa. Tumca, yvelaferi<br />
gasagebia, avcdiT gzas, romelic Semoqmedma<br />
dagvisaxa. axla ki Tavs viimedebT, vityuebT im<br />
cru moZRvrebiT, ufalma rom gviTxra _<br />
ekrZaleniTo.
ase movediT am absurdamde, rasac wminda werilis<br />
ugulvebelyofa da arakompetenturi, TiTqosda<br />
zusti kvlevebis mindoba warmoadgens. mama gabrieli<br />
brZanebda: `... imisTvis modis, vinc<br />
elodebao~(antiqriste). Cven ki, marTlac, `mTeli<br />
guliT~ velodebiT `momzadebulni,~ `zedmiwevniT<br />
ganaTlebulni da garkveulni~ am sakiTxSi. adamiani<br />
rwmeniT ganikiTxeba da saqmiT gamarTldeba. rwmena<br />
eklesiurobam Caanacvla, saqme _ umoqmedobam. esec<br />
Cveni ugunurebis, ususurobis Sedegi, arada, ufali<br />
brZanebs: `aqa ars saWiro goneba, romelsac aqundes<br />
sibrZne.~ Tu rogor unda miaRwios am frazis<br />
srulyofas sakuTar TavSi adamianma, risi unda<br />
swamdes da ras unda iTvaliswinebdes is, gviqadagebs<br />
Tbilisis vaxtang gorgaslis saxelobis eklesiis<br />
winamZRvari, dekanozi guram guram guram guramiSvili<br />
guramiSvili<br />
guramiSvili.<br />
guramiSvili<br />
guramiSvili<br />
_ _ _ mamao, mamao, rogori rogori iqneba iqneba meored meored meored mosvla,<br />
mosvla,<br />
marTebulia marTebulia marTebulia Tu Tu Tu ara ara sazogadoebis sazogadoebis aseTi<br />
aseTi<br />
gamZafrebuli gamZafrebuli gamZafrebuli molodini molodini molodini da da TariRebis<br />
TariRebis<br />
TariRebis<br />
ferwerul ferwerul tiloebze tiloebze Zieba?<br />
Zieba?<br />
_ istoriis manZilze yovelTvis iyo molodini<br />
meored mosvlisa. adamianebs uRirsi codvebis gamo<br />
fizikuri da sulieri SiSi hqondaT. bolo periodSi<br />
gavrcelebuli filmebi, audio-video Canawerebi,<br />
ferweruli tiloebi (leonardo davinCis `saidumlo<br />
seroba~) amZafrebs sazogadoebis emociebs, Tumca<br />
marTlmadidebelma am yvelafris ar unda irwmunos.<br />
me, rogorc sasuliero piri, moZRvari,<br />
saxarebiseuli swavlebiT vixelmZRvaneleb. rodesac<br />
TviT ufals kiTxes, rogori iqneba meored mosvlao,<br />
ufalma brZana, rom misi mosvla ar emsgavseba<br />
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pirvels. Cven viciT, ufali gankacda da bagaSi,<br />
ubraloebaSi daibada. pirvelad mas Tayvani<br />
mwyemsebma da mogvebma sces. aseTi TavmdablobiT,<br />
ubraloebiT moevlina kacobriobas. meored mosvla<br />
ki iqneba didebiT. ieso qriste mova RrubelTagan,<br />
rogorc meufe, mefe samyarosi. mociqulebma hkiTxes<br />
ufals dro, TariRi meored mosvlisa, man ki<br />
upasuxa, rom es aravin icis, garda mamisa.<br />
iyo aseTi midgoma - TiTqos 2000, 2012 wlebi<br />
iyo zusti TariRi meored mosvlisa, Tumca es<br />
crurwmenaa. ra Tqma unda, marTlmadidebelma aseT<br />
varaudebze arc komentari unda gaakeTos da arc<br />
unda irwmunos. morwmune qristiani unda iyos ufals<br />
mindobili, icxovros ise, TiTqos es misi ukanaskneli<br />
dRea da yovelTvis mzad iyos ufalTan Sesaxvedrad.<br />
yvelas unda gvaxsovdes, rom meored mosvlis dro<br />
aravin uwyis garda uflisa Cvenisa ieso qristesi.<br />
_ _ mamao, mamao, ras ras gvetyviT gvetyviT marTlmadidebeli<br />
marTlmadidebeli<br />
marTlmadidebeli<br />
wminda wminda mamebis mamebis winaswarmetyvelebis winaswarmetyvelebis Sesaxeb Sesaxeb<br />
Sesaxeb<br />
meored meored mosvlis mosvlis Taobaze? Taobaze?<br />
Taobaze?<br />
_ nebismieri sasuliero piri, RvTis msaxuri<br />
eyrdnoba saxarebiseul swavlebas. maTi yoveli<br />
moZRvreba uflis sityvebs efuZneba. ra Tqma unda,<br />
wminda mamebis, mama gabrielis, romelic yovelTvis<br />
iyo da iqneba udidesi avtoriteti qarTvelebisTvis,<br />
swavleba umniSvnelovanesia, saxarebidan<br />
gamomdinareobs da uflisadmi ndobasa da<br />
siyvarulze migviTiTebs.<br />
_ _ ramdenad ramdenad bunebrivi bunebrivi bunebrivi da da gamarTlebulia<br />
gamarTlebulia<br />
sazogadoebis sazogadoebis SiSi SiSi meored meored meored mosvlaze?<br />
mosvlaze?<br />
`adre `adre `adre `adre `adre Tu Tu Tu Tu Tu gvian gvian gvian gvian gvian yvela yvela yvela yvela yvela ganvikiTxebiT...~<br />
ganvikiTxebiT...~<br />
ganvikiTxebiT...~<br />
ganvikiTxebiT...~<br />
ganvikiTxebiT...~<br />
`SiSi Seiqms siyvarulsa.~ morwmune adamiani<br />
uneblied Cadis codvebs da Semdeg eSinia sasjelis,<br />
uflis, magram mas uyvars ufali, cdilobs daZlios<br />
codvebisken midrekileba, raTa gaqres SiSi.<br />
erTaderTi saSualeba amis misaRwevad RvTisnierad,<br />
eklesiurad, sinanuliT cxovrebaa, xSiri aRsarebiT,<br />
ziarebiT unda ganviwmindoT. rac ufro<br />
dabinZurebulia suli, miT ufro mZafrdeba SiSi<br />
pasuxisgebisadmi. adre Tu gvian yvela<br />
ganvikiTxebiT, amitom unda vecadoT, keTili saqmiT<br />
ufro aRmatebulni viyoT.<br />
_ _ mamao, mamao, bevri bevri adamiani adamiani meored meored meored mosvlas mosvlas<br />
mosvlas<br />
kataklizmebs kataklizmebs ukavSirebs, ukavSirebs, romlebmac romlebmac bolo<br />
bolo<br />
periodSi, periodSi, moraluri moraluri da da materialuri<br />
materialuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT, TvalsazrisiT, gansakuTrebiT gansakuTrebiT didi didi ziani<br />
ziani<br />
miayenes miayenes sazogadoebas. sazogadoebas. ras ras ras gvirCevT? gvirCevT? gvaqvs<br />
gvaqvs<br />
Tu Tu ara ara SiSis SiSis safuZveli, safuZveli, safuZveli, konkretulad<br />
konkretulad<br />
konkretulad<br />
iaponiis iaponiis magaliTiT magaliTiT rom rom vimsjeloT.<br />
vimsjeloT.<br />
_ dRes gansakuTrebiT mZime periodSi gviwevs<br />
cxovreba. xSiria wyaldidobebi, miwisZvrebi... ramac<br />
ganapiroba sazogadoebis rTuli mdgomareoba, magram<br />
es ar SeiZleba mainc da mainc meored mosvlas<br />
davukavSiroT, rogorc zemoT vaxseneT apokalifsis<br />
gansazRvra ase SeuZlebelia. TviT angelozebmac
ar ician, rodis iqneba meored mosvla, Cven ki,<br />
ubralo adamianebi rogor SevZlebT ganvsazRvroT<br />
is? konkretuli dro uwyis mxolod mama RmerTma.<br />
ra Tqma unda, iyo da aris kataklizmebi, magram<br />
es adamianma panikis safuZvlad ar unda gamoiyenos.<br />
TiToeulma Cvenganma unda gaacnobieros, Tu ras<br />
niSnavs fizikuri sikvdili, romelic gardauvalia<br />
da unda ifiqros maradiul sulze, mis ukvdavebaze.<br />
Cven viciT, rom uflisTvis erTi dRe aris viTarca<br />
aTasi da aTasi _ viTarca erTi. anu ar aris ise,<br />
rogorc adamianis SemTxvevaSi. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
arasworia ubralo adamianma imsjelos apokalifsis<br />
TariRebze: erT TveSi iqneba, erT kviraSi Tu erT<br />
dReSi. is amaze fiqriT ki ar unda iyos dakavebuli,<br />
aramed unda zrunavdes Tavis sulierebaze. aseTi<br />
movlenebi rogoric iaponiaSi moxda, metad Tu<br />
naklebad, periodulad yovelTvis iyo, magram<br />
rogorc vnaxeT, isini ar yofilan meored mosvlis<br />
winare procesebi. mcdari msjelobis mizezi xdeba<br />
Cveni rwmenis xarisxi, romlis asamaRlebladac<br />
mudmivad unda viRvawoT.<br />
_ _ rogor rogor unda unda iRvawos iRvawos adamianma, adamianma, rom<br />
rom<br />
daimkvidros daimkvidros caTa caTa sasufeveli?<br />
sasufeveli?<br />
_ adamiani ufalma Seqmna xatad da msgavsad<br />
Tavisa. gamogvarCia yvela sxva qmnilebisagan. es<br />
udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa Semoqmedis winaSe. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, adamianma ise unda icxovros, rom<br />
cxovels ar emsgavsos. `kaci pativsa Sina iyo,<br />
baZvida igi pirutyvsa da emsgavsa mas.~<br />
zogierTi adamiani uRirsi saqcieliT pirutyvs<br />
emsgavseba an ufro dabla ecema. TiToeul adamians<br />
unda axsovdes rom, raxan ufalma gamogvarCia,<br />
Cvenc, pirvel rigSi, Cveni Semoqmedi unda<br />
davayenoT. marTlmadidebelisaTvis gansakuTrebuli<br />
unda iyos yoveli wuTi. TiTouli dRe unda<br />
daiwyos da daamTavros RvTis didebiT, locviT.<br />
kvira dRe gansakuTrebuli unda iyos yvelasTvis,<br />
midiodes taZarSi, eswrebodes wirva-locvas,<br />
RvTismsaxurebas. anda, icavdes rogorc Cvens<br />
eklesiaSi arsebul ordRian marxvebs, oTxSabaTs -<br />
uflis gacemisa da paraskevs -uflis jvarcmis<br />
dRes, aseve oTx ZiriTad: aRdgomis, Sobis, petrepavlobis,<br />
mariamobis marxvebs. ra Tqma unda, visac<br />
janmrTeloba ar uwyobs xels, moZRvris kurTxeviT<br />
SesaZloa Seumsubuqdes marxva. Tumca mTavari mainc<br />
gulwrfeli locva, aRsareba da sinanulia, rac<br />
adamians ganwmends da amzadebs ufalTan Sesaxvedrad.<br />
RmerTma dalocos yoveli marTlmadidebeli<br />
qristiani. udidesi wyalobaa saqarTveloze, rom<br />
is RvTismSoblis wilxvedri qveyanaa, rom<br />
saqarTvelo iwodeba samociqulo eklesiad (es<br />
yvela eklesiis pativi ar aris), rameTu aq TviT<br />
uflis mociqulebma: andria pirvelwodebulma,<br />
svimon kananelma da mataTam iqadages. udidesi<br />
pativi da wyalobaa am miwaze cxovreba iseT<br />
patriarqTan erTad, rogoric Cveni uwmindesi da<br />
unetaresi ilia II gaxlavT. RmerTma daglocoT da<br />
wargimarToT xeli yvela saqmeSi.<br />
esaubrnen esaubrnen esaubrnen esaubrnen esaubrnen<br />
lika lika lika lika lika zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, zambaxiZe, nino nino nino nino nino zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
zviadauri<br />
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aTasi aTasi aTasi aTasi aTasi ymisa ymisa ymisa ymisa ymisa<br />
da da da da da aTasi aTasi aTasi aTasi aTasi vefxis vefxis vefxis vefxis vefxis<br />
mSoblebi...<br />
mSoblebi...<br />
mSoblebi...<br />
mSoblebi...<br />
mSoblebi...<br />
`genetikuri kodis gamoRviZeba anu nabiji<br />
Serigebisken~ – am mravlismetyveli saTauriT<br />
gazeT `dronSi~ gamoqveynda Cveni profesoris,<br />
Jurnalist goCa xundaZis statia, sadac<br />
saubaria saocar faqtze: `18 ivniss samebis<br />
sakaTedro lavris ezoSi wminda mociqul<br />
simon kananelis eklesiis saZirkveli ekurTxa,<br />
romelic erTmaneTTan dapirispirebisas<br />
daRupul afxaz da qarTvel meomarTa sulis<br />
saoxad Sendeba.~<br />
bakur gulua, eklesiis mSeneblobis<br />
mzrunveli da meurve: `...dRes aq arian afxazi<br />
dedebi, romlebmac guSin gadmolaxes enguri<br />
da qarTveli dedebis tkivils SeuerTes<br />
Tanaziari mwuxareba. Cven xom yvelani vefxisa<br />
da moymis dedaTa Svilebi varT, am tradiciis<br />
madliani ZuZuTi gamozrdilebi...~
i i m m e e d d i i d d a a s s a a s s o o e e b b a<br />
a<br />
goCa xundaZe, avtori-Jurnalisti: `is,<br />
rac samebis taZris ezoSi xdeboda, iyo<br />
genetikuri kodis gamoRviZeba. TiTqos aTasi<br />
ymisa da aTasi vefxis mSoblebi mosuliyvnen<br />
erTmaneTisTvis samZimris saTqmelad~.<br />
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gansakuTrebiT emociuri iyo uwmidesisa<br />
da unetaresis Sexvedra afxazeTidan Camosul<br />
dedebTan. mrevlma, afxazma mrevlma, kidev<br />
erTxel igrZno is didi siTbo, romelsac<br />
maTdami yovelTvis gamoxatavda uwmindesi da<br />
unetaresi.<br />
`Cven, Svilmkvdar dedebs, erTi Wiri<br />
gvWirs, erTnairi mouSuSebeli iara gvtkiva,<br />
magram unda vZlioT Tavs, unda avmaRldeT.<br />
rac ufro male SevrigdebiT, miT ukeTesi<br />
iqneba qarTvelebisTvisac da afxazebisTvisac.<br />
unda dabrundeT, isev erTad unda vicxovroT,<br />
sufrasac erTad mivusxdeT da Cveni daRupuli<br />
Svilebis Sesandobaric erTad vTqvaT.<br />
gvaxsovxarT da gvenatrebiT, vgrZnobT, Tqveni<br />
sulic iq aris. uTqvenod afxazeTma fasi<br />
dakarga. icodeT, Cven gelodebiT afxazeTSi!~<br />
_ es sityvebi erT-erTma afxazma dedam Tqva.<br />
saocrad gulwrfeli da damaimedebeli iyo<br />
misi sityvebi~ (gazeTi `droni,~ 23. 06.<br />
2011).
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