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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

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yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

soso _<br />

metsaxelad<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N23 (154) 28.6.201<br />

.2016 fasi 2 lari<br />

`antrikota~...<br />

gv. 7<br />

ratom ar<br />

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mamacaSvilis<br />

qvisls?! gv. 2<br />

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vemzadebiT,<br />

yvela<br />

Sansi<br />

gv. 8<br />

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gv. 14<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

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lias ivaniSvilis frTam kontrolad uCa mamacaSvilis qvisli,<br />

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grZeldeboda da am<br />

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mouwevs gadasvla. 2014 welsve<br />

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sakiTxi. erovnuli saakreditacio<br />

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iqneba. akreditaciis „texasmotriviT”<br />

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am laboratoriebis mier Catarebuli<br />

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individualuri unda gaxdes da<br />

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tarifebis SemTanxmebeli moadgile,<br />

uCa mamacaSvilis qvisli,<br />

iuri nozaZe iyo. saqmeSi Caxeduli<br />

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rom laboratoriis xelmZRvanels<br />

xSirad pirdapir eubneboda,<br />

_ sul ar mainteresebs kanonio.<br />

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Tqva, roca laboratoriis erovnul<br />

akretidacias Seexo saqme.<br />

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romelsac `produqtis Tavisufali<br />

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punqtis definiciaa: „sazRvargareT<br />

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wesiT gacemuli Sesabamisobis<br />

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damatebiTi procedurebis<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

oTar danelia<br />

gareSe. aseT SemTxvevaSi Sesabamisobis<br />

damadasturebeli<br />

dokumenti warmodgenili unda<br />

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TargmaniT. aseTi qveynebis nusxas<br />

saqarTvelos mTavroba gansazRvravs.<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobam 2013<br />

wlis 7 marts, maSindel premier-ministr<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

xelmoweriT, #50 dadgenileba<br />

gamosca da kanonis Sesabamisad,<br />

evrokavSiris ekonomikuri TanamSromobisa<br />

da ganviTarebis<br />

organizaciis wevri qveynebis<br />

nusxa gansazRvra, romelTa teqnikuri<br />

reglamentebi saqarTveloSi<br />

samoqmedod aris daSvebuli.<br />

nusxaSi sul 37 qveyanaa,<br />

maT Soris, amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebic. saministros laboratorias<br />

akretidacia miani-<br />

Wa amerikulma makreditebelma<br />

organom. saqarTvelos saakreditacio<br />

organos evaleboda er-<br />

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mxolod imas acxadebdnen,<br />

rom saministros laboratorias<br />

erovnuli akreditacia ar<br />

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laboratoria xels ar aZlevda,<br />

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am sakiTxze gamarTuli<br />

Sexvedra miatova da, _ kanoni<br />

saerTod ar mainteresebso,<br />

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iuri nozaZesTan am<br />

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ismens kanonis muxlebis ganmartebebs.<br />

metic, manve laboratoriis<br />

maSindel xelmZRvanels<br />

megobrulad urCia, _ ratom<br />

jiutobT, qalbatono lali?<br />

gagekeTebinaT ise, rogorc<br />

ministri geubnebaT, ra iciT,<br />

vis ugorebs koWso...<br />

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bizness programebiT<br />

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daiares da erTi dakalibrebuli<br />

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rom kerZo laboratoriebi<br />

ar Sediodnen. dava didi xnis<br />

ganmavlobaSi mimdinareobda,<br />

saqmeSi ekonomikis saministro<br />

da amJamindeli sagareo saqme-<br />

Ta ministri papuna janeliZec<br />

iyo CarTuli. soflis meurneobis<br />

saministros ministris moadgile<br />

levan daviTaSvili warmoadgenda<br />

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nozaZes msgavs Sexvedrebze ar<br />

aCenen). daviTaSvili cdilobda,<br />

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Semosavali 120 aTasi<br />

lari iyo. aris ki es is Tanxa,<br />

romlis gamoc ekonomikis saministrom<br />

naxevari weli unda daxarjos?<br />

es is dargia, sadac araferi<br />

muSaobs garda erTisa, _<br />

esaa saerTaSoriso akreditacia.<br />

ekonomikis saministro ki<br />

daJinebiT iTxovda laboratoriisgan<br />

erovnuli akreditaciis<br />

programis momzadebas.<br />

swored am procesSi levan daviTaSvili<br />

laboratorias CamoaSores<br />

da mis kuratorad uCa<br />

mamacaSvilis qvisli daniSnes.<br />

dgas Tu ara procesebis ukan didi<br />

fulis interesi?! ratom gaaTavisufles<br />

Tanamdebobidan laboratoriis<br />

xelmZRvaneli?!<br />

da ras saqmianobs iuri nozaZe soflis<br />

meurneobis saministroSi?!<br />

gagrZeleba „qronika+”-is<br />

momdevno nomerSi<br />

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ar vici ratom, magram rogorc<br />

eliso kilaZe<br />

pirvelma „moqalaqem” preskonfer-<br />

599 17 12 12<br />

enciaze miTxra, mas molodini hqonda,<br />

rom SekiTxvas piradi cxovreb-<br />

is firebze davsvamdi. piradi firebis epopea, Cvengan<br />

damoukidebeli mizezebis gamo, swored „qronika+”-s daukav-<br />

Sirda, _ Cvens ofisSi motanili deputat eka beselias firis<br />

gamo gela Rurwkaia da misi Tanamzraxvelebi swored Cemi gancxadebiT<br />

daakaves. jerjerobiT, internetsivrceSi atvirTu-<br />

li piradi firebis Taobaze gamoZieba arafers gveubneba.<br />

„Tqveni meSveobiT gavrcelda”,<br />

_ es frazac biZina ivaniSvils<br />

ekuTvnis. didi imedi maqvs,<br />

rom Cven Soris arsebuli civi<br />

omis miuxedavad, is mxolod im<br />

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daudgenelma pirma piradi<br />

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es frazebi pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT<br />

gaiges da e. w. politpatimrebis<br />

erTma marginalurma<br />

jgufma versiebis ganvrcoba daiwyo.<br />

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statusi sruliad zedmetia mis<br />

pirovnebasTan, ramdenadac...<br />

_ nasamarTlevi ar aris?<br />

_ arasodes... mainteresebs,<br />

erTi mtkicebuleba mainc Tu<br />

eqneba mas, Tundac 24-saaTian<br />

reJimSi dakavebis, an winaswari<br />

patimrobis oqmi mainc Tua Sedgenili<br />

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igi arasodes yofila nasamarTlevi.<br />

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misi istoria, _ is, rac me vico-<br />

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Semdeg „politikuri biogra-<br />

Si CarTva arasodes yofila, arc<br />

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hqvia. aqedan gamomdinare, konkretulad<br />

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rogorc CemTvis cnobilia,<br />

ramazis politikaSi wasvla<br />

gamoiwvia im e. w. usamarTlobam,<br />

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ra zRaprebsac hyveba, yvelaferi<br />

tyuilia, magram Tu mis<br />

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es arasamarTlebrivi,<br />

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amerikidan ojaxis mosanaxuleblad<br />

pirvelad Camovedi, mis megobrebTan<br />

urTierToba mqonda<br />

da ramaz gagniZis axalSeZenili<br />

megobrebi gavicani, maT Soris,<br />

„nacionaluri” frTis warmomadgenlebi,<br />

maTTan asocirebu-<br />

ra skandaluri faqtebi miawoda<br />

`qronika+~-s valerian gagniZem?<br />

vako gagniZe<br />

Si maqvs nanaxio. gardacvlili<br />

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cxadia, magram vinc icnobda,<br />

yvelam icis, _ ar iyo zviad beraZe<br />

is biWi, Cems ofisSi rame<br />

moesmina, enaxa da es ambavi gareT<br />

gaetana, miT ufro, araferi<br />

msgavsi ar momxdara da arc<br />

faqts moigonebda. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, Tu vinmes, Tundac, aralegitimuri<br />

eWvi aqvs, samarTaldamcveli<br />

uwyebisTvis „qronika+”-is<br />

ofisis kari nebismier<br />

dros Riaa.<br />

daanonsebuli jojoxeTis<br />

mowyobas, CemTvis sruliad moulodnelad,<br />

e. w. politpatimris,<br />

ramaz gagniZis Zma gamoexmaura.<br />

valerian gagniZe aSS-s moqalaqea.<br />

am intervius mere me piradad<br />

ramaz gagniZis misamarTiT<br />

kiTxvebi ar gamaCnia, mxolod im<br />

adamianebis azri mainteresebs,<br />

romlebsac ramaz gagniZe am dromde<br />

usamarTlobasTan mebrZoli<br />

raindi hgoniaT.<br />

„qronika+” valerian gagniZ-<br />

es esaubreba:<br />

_ me gaxlavarT val ireli _<br />

warsulSi valerian gagniZe, eTnikurad<br />

qarTveli, magram dRes<br />

amerikis moqalaqe...<br />

_ Tqven xarT politpatimar<br />

ramaz gagniZis Zma...<br />

_ mogaxsenebT, rom sityva politpatimari<br />

misTvis sruliad<br />

zedmetia, iseve rogorc politrepresirebuli.<br />

ramdenadac me<br />

ojaxis wevri var, laparaki gvaqvs<br />

ojaxis yofil wevrze. misi<br />

istoria Tu vinmem icis, dawyebuli<br />

bavSvobidan dRevandelobamde,<br />

erT-erTi TvalnaTeli<br />

mowme var. SemiZlia, dabejiTebiT<br />

giTxraT, rom igi aranair<br />

fia”. rogor gamoCnda is<br />

arenaze?<br />

_ 1998 wlidan amerikaSi vimyofebi.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

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JimSi ojaxis wevrebTan urTier-<br />

Toba mqonda, met-naklebad, ramaz<br />

gagniZesTanac, imis safuZvlebi<br />

iyo, rom masTan, zogadad,<br />

xSiri, swori da Zmuri damokidebuleba<br />

ar da ver gamaCnda. amis<br />

bevri mizezi arsebobda, magram<br />

ar davakonkreteb. rogorc Cem-<br />

Tvis ojaxis wevrebisgan aris<br />

cnobili, misi mizani politika-<br />

ramaz gagniZe<br />

li, maTTan naTesaur kavSirSi<br />

myofebi, gvar-saxelebis konkretika<br />

ar minda, rame rom ar gamomrCes.<br />

ramaz gagniZe am adamianebTan<br />

megobrobiT namdvilad<br />

asocirdeboda „nacionalur<br />

moZraobasTan” 2005 wels. maSin<br />

mas amboxis aranairi safuZveli<br />

ar gaaCnda. mere, ojaxidan gamomdinare,<br />

rodesac man binaTmSenebloba<br />

gadawyvita Cvens mamapapiseul<br />

saxlSi, Sevityve, rom<br />

ukanono mSenebloba daiwyo (ukanono<br />

hqvia yvela im mSeneblobas,<br />

sadac, sul mcire, iuridiul<br />

enaze rom vTqvaT, yvela dokumenti<br />

wesrigSi ar aris). swored<br />

am dros daeZaba urTierTobebi<br />

rogorc meriasTan, aseve<br />

zedamxedvelobis samsaxurTan.<br />

es naTesavebisganac da misganac<br />

Sevityve, magram am problemis<br />

mogvareba man Tbilisis meris,<br />

gigi ugulavas doneze SeZlo<br />

„nacionali” megobrebis daxmarebiT<br />

da wyalobiT... SegaxsenebT,<br />

rom es is periodia, operis ukan,<br />

Tu ar vcdebi, TabukaSvilis<br />

quCaze, 12 Tu 14-sarTuliani<br />

saxli rom daangries. amas amerikidan<br />

vuyurebdi: saxli daangries,<br />

ngreva pianinoebiT, yvelanairi<br />

saojaxo inventarisa da<br />

nivTebis frialiT xdeboda kamerebis<br />

TanxlebiT, piaris doneze.<br />

am dros rogor unda ebrZolo<br />

ukanonobas? bodiSi JargonisTvis,<br />

magram sityva-sityviT<br />

getyviT: ramaz gagniZes am fonze<br />

sakuTari ukanono mSenebloba<br />

„gaupraves”.<br />

_ ra misamarTze iyo es<br />

ukanono mSenebloba?<br />

_ diRomSi, sadac dRes Cveni<br />

biznesi mdebareobs, iqve gverdiT<br />

aris didgoris q. #2, yofili<br />

„TeTri duqnis” teritoria,<br />

sofel diRmis asasvlel-<br />

Tan... rodesac mas kiTxva davusvi,<br />

_ rogor SeZeli mSeneblobis<br />

dakanoneba, maSin roca amxela<br />

Senobebs angrevdnen-meTqi? pirdapir<br />

miTxra im piris gvari da<br />

saxeli, romelic mas daexmara.<br />

dedaazri is iyo da naTesavebmac<br />

damidastures, rom mogvareba<br />

kapiki ar dasjdomia, ise moayomara<br />

ugulavasTan es saqme...<br />

dRes rom hkiTxo, „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” wevrebTan brZolas<br />

iCemebs.<br />

ar vici, mogvianebiT ra moxda,<br />

ar vici, visTan SeeSala, ra<br />

SeeSala, ra ar moewona da rogor<br />

ar moewona, misi politikaSi<br />

mosvla mizandasaxuli iyo, Tu<br />

viRacam urCia am gziT Semosvla,<br />

eg periodi gamovtove, aq<br />

fizikurad ar viyavi, magram uceb<br />

is dasajes da rogor dasajes?<br />

es korpusi meorejer gadaaRebines,<br />

anu msubuqad dasajes,<br />

mwvane yviTelSi aunTes... mwvane<br />

hqonda, magram yviTelSi gadaitanes<br />

da gaafrTxiles, rom sanam<br />

wiTels aginTebT, dawynardio...<br />

es iyo da es, sxva aranairi<br />

usamarTloba ramaz gagniZes „nacebis”<br />

dros ar gauvlia. swored<br />

aqedan iwyeba ramaz gagniZis epopea<br />

quCaSi gamosvliT, es gaxlavT<br />

2009 weli, e. w. saknebi.<br />

televiziiT vuyurebdi saxalxo<br />

razms gia korkotaSvilTan er-<br />

Tad, e. w. dRevandel cnobad saxeebTan<br />

erTad, raciebiT misvlamosvlebs.<br />

maSin ki SemovuTvale,<br />

rom ar ginda, cota dawynardimeTqi...<br />

„dawynardi” imitom ki ar<br />

vuTxari, rom es me ar mindoda,<br />

ubralod, misi azrovnebis horizonti<br />

vici, sad banaobs misi<br />

Rirseba vici im momentSi, roca<br />

mas winaaRmdegoba da Zala Sei-<br />

Zleba daxvdes. ubralod, ojaxis<br />

wevri viyavi da vurCie, rom<br />

ar ginda. magram es ar iyo arc<br />

ojaxi, arc dedis, Zmis da arc<br />

bevri naTesavis rCeva, man Tavisi<br />

gza Tavad airCia da sabolood,<br />

roca Camovedi, ukve burjanaZis<br />

partiis erT-erTi aqtivisti<br />

damxvda.<br />

_ is iyo ara marto burjan-<br />

aZis partiis aqtivisti, aramed<br />

maJoritarobis<br />

kandidati<br />

diRomSi...<br />

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ramaz gagniZe!<br />

daTo mefariSvili<br />

_ zustad mag periods mogaxsenebT:<br />

Tu ar vcdebi, es iyo<br />

2014 wlis TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

arCevnebi, rodesac Cemi ojaxis<br />

winaaRmdeg binZuri kampania aagores.<br />

ramaz gagniZe, ojaxis e. w.<br />

yofili wevri, am kampaniis ara<br />

mxolod uSualo Tanamonawile,<br />

aramed TaRliTuri sqemis fuZemdebeli<br />

gaxldaT... meore TaRliTi,<br />

romelic dRes „laiT hausTan”<br />

asocirdeba, es vaJa gordiaSvilia.<br />

veWvobdi, rom ramaz<br />

gagniZe mizanmimarTulad Semogdebuli<br />

kandidati iyo nino<br />

burjanaZesTan. „reportiorSi”<br />

brifingi gavmarTe da oficialurad<br />

mivmarTe qalbaton nino<br />

burjanaZes, aranairi piradi interesi<br />

ar mqonda, arc misi politikuri<br />

Sexedulebebi iyo<br />

misaRebi, magram sajarod vur-<br />

Cie, _ sul mcire, ramaz gagniZis<br />

kandidaturisTvis unda gadaexeda,<br />

rameTu kandidaturis<br />

arCeva da dayeneba, pirvel rig-<br />

Si, ganisazRvreba misi ojaxidan,<br />

_ ra statusi, rogori warsuli<br />

aqvs, saidan da ra RirsebiT modis<br />

da mas mere unda waradginon.<br />

amas gavusvi xazi, miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom zustad vici, es<br />

nino burjanaZis StabSi miitanes,<br />

ramaz gagniZes viRac lobirebda<br />

da igi aqtiurad waradgines,<br />

Tumca yvelam vixileT,<br />

ra samarcxvino marcxiT dasrulda<br />

es procesi.<br />

_ ara marto marcxiT, aramed<br />

partiidan saerTod gamogdeb-<br />

iT...<br />

_ SeuZlebelia, rom mag TezisSi<br />

ar dageTanxmoT. Tbilisi pataraa<br />

da diRomi, _ miT umetes.<br />

mag ubanSi davibadeT da gavizardeT,<br />

saerTo samegobroc<br />

gvyavs, visTanac, rbilad rom<br />

vTqva, ramazs bevrjer kamaTic<br />

mosvlia. is garemo faqtorebic<br />

vici da zustad SemiZlia vivaraudo,<br />

ramaz gagniZe partiidan<br />

ratom ganarides, an, sulac,<br />

gaagdes.<br />

_ SeiZleboda Tu ara, es<br />

fulTan yofiliyo dakavSire-<br />

buli?..<br />

_ ar minda, ise aRiqvaT, rom<br />

ramaz gagniZes Zma Rirsebas ulaxavs,<br />

magram konkretul SemTxvevaSi<br />

da Cveni ojaxis mimarT<br />

Catarebuli qmedebebidan gamomdinare,<br />

savaraudod, didi alba-<br />

TobiT, vuSveb, rom es is niSania,<br />

romelic, Tavis droze, mas-<br />

Si iyo da mudam darCeba. am niSans<br />

sixarbe hqvia! mas uSromeli<br />

fuli uyvars, Tavisi rolis gamoxatva<br />

unda boboqrobiT, ginebiT,<br />

risxviT da moCvenebiTi aqtiurobiT.<br />

kidev davamateb...<br />

_ ojaxTan urTierTobaze,<br />

albaT, mere vilaparakebT, im<br />

detalebze, romelic mec vici.<br />

minda gkiTxoT dRevandel mis<br />

statusze. garkveuli informaciiT,<br />

gagniZes sus-Tan kav-<br />

Sirebi aqvs. amboben, rom soso<br />

gogaSvilis davalebebs Zalian<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

xSirad asrulebs.<br />

_ pirdapir mogaxsenebT da ar<br />

dagimalavT, eg piradad CemTvis<br />

yvelaze mZime Temaa, miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom vimeoreb, _ Cemi konkretuli<br />

Sexeduleba maqvs, magram<br />

mainc udanaSaulobis prezumpcias<br />

moviSvelieb, rameTu<br />

ganaTlebiT iuristi gaxlavarT:<br />

yvela winapiroba arsebobs, rom<br />

ramazi sus-Tan aqtiurad Tanam-<br />

Sromlobs, mas morali ar awuxebs,<br />

_ ojaxis winaaRmdeg iseTi<br />

qmedebebi Caidina, dedis winaaRmdeg<br />

kampania aagora, kiTxvis ni-<br />

Snebi arsebobs burjanaZis partiaSi<br />

yofnisas, 26 maisTan dakavSirebiT!<br />

iqneb, vinmem hkiTxos,<br />

26 maiss sad iyo da mitingis<br />

darbevis dros rogor gadar-<br />

Ca?.. ar minda Rrmad Sevide, magram<br />

Zalian bevri raRaca vici<br />

maqedan gamomdinare. vimeoreb! _<br />

Tbilisi Zalian pataraa imisTvis,<br />

rom rame informacia damalo,<br />

miT umetes, roca politikurad<br />

aqtiur pirovnebebzea<br />

saubari... da dResac, Tqveni SekiTxviT,<br />

aris Tu ara batoni gagniZe<br />

sus-Tan ramenair urTierTTanamSromlobaSi<br />

mxilebuli,<br />

an miniSnebuli, ar davmalav,<br />

_ diax, aris! Sinaganad amis kategoriuli<br />

winaaRmdegi var, Cveni<br />

ojaxidan gamomdinare erTi<br />

pirovnebac ar moiZebneba arc<br />

winaprebSi, arc dRevandeloba-<br />

Si, rom ramenairad asocirebuliyo<br />

an maSindel „kagebesTan”,<br />

an dRevandel sod-Tan da kud-<br />

Tan, dRes kidev sus-Tan... amas<br />

xazgasmiT vambob, magram... vimeoreb:<br />

SeuZlebelia, mag samarTlian<br />

da marTebul eWvSi ar<br />

dageTanxmoT... kidev erTi miniSneba,<br />

saidanac SeiZleba Cemi<br />

eWvic gamyardes: 2013 wels piradad<br />

Sevxvdi soso gogaSvils.<br />

maSin igi zviad janyaraSvilis<br />

moadgile iyo generalur inspeqciaSi.<br />

masTan Zalian adamianurad<br />

mivedi, oficialuri gancxadebis<br />

daweris gareSe. soso<br />

gogaSvils vTxove, zomebi mieRo<br />

im usamarTlobaze, rasac Cveni<br />

ojaxis winaaRmdeg ramaz gagniZis<br />

iniciativiT dawyebul saqme-<br />

Si deteqtiv-gamomZieblebi sCadiodnen.<br />

vTxove, emxilebina da<br />

droulad gamoeZiebinaT is TaRliTuri<br />

faqtebi da mtkicebulebebi,<br />

rac movipove ara quCaSi,<br />

an ukanonod, aramed sasamarTloSi<br />

Semotanili sarCelebis,<br />

TandarTuli dokumentebisa da<br />

mtkicebulebebis fonze.<br />

_ ra giTxraT gogaSvilma?<br />

_ am saqmeSi sruli daxmareba<br />

aRmiTqva. Sewuxda da miTxra,<br />

rom „nacionalebma” ara marto<br />

Cemi Rirseba daazianes, Tavadac<br />

gaxldaT „nacionaluri moZraobisa”<br />

da diqtaturis msxverpli(?!!).<br />

ai, modiT, Sinaurulad<br />

vambob, es Temac ki dominirebda<br />

Cvens urTierTobaSi. am etapze<br />

mets verafers vityvi... sabolood,<br />

soso gogaSvilma damnaSaveebis<br />

dasasjelad araferi gaake-<br />

Ta. Tu movlenebs Tvals gavusworebT,<br />

sad aris dRes da ra<br />

Tanamdebobaze batoni soso gogaSvili,<br />

CemTvis absuluturad<br />

gasagebia, ratom ar miaqcia man<br />

yuradReba ramaz gagniZisa da<br />

vaJa gorgiaSvilis TaRliTur<br />

sqemebs. aqedanac SemiZlia davaskvna,<br />

rom arsebobs, minimum,<br />

iribi kavSiri da maqsimum, pirdapiri<br />

mtkicebuleba, rom susma<br />

ramaz gagniZe swored am TemiT<br />

daaba da isic usityvod asrulebs<br />

gogaSvilis yvela davalebas.<br />

SeuZlebelia, rom ase ar<br />

iyos!!! es kargad etyoba sasamarTlo<br />

gadawyvetilebebs,<br />

prokuraturis dRevandel siraqlemis<br />

pozaSi yofnas da es<br />

kargad etyoba Ss saministros<br />

deteqtiv-gamomZieblebis qmedebebs.<br />

tempi mitovebuli da<br />

modunebulia...<br />

_ vako, rodis daiwyo Tqveni<br />

ojaxuri dava?<br />

_ ojaxuri dava Zalian didi<br />

xnis win daiwyo. samwuxarod, ramaz<br />

gagniZem 2002 wlidan ukve<br />

Tavad airCia ojaxis yofili<br />

wevris statusi. me-15 weliwadia,<br />

igi aRar aris ojaxis srulyofili<br />

wevri, rogoric gaxlavarT<br />

me, misi Svili, misi pirveli<br />

coli, misi da, deda da aw<br />

gardacvlili misi gamzrdeli<br />

bebia... ai, am ojaxis wevrebs Tavad<br />

gamoeyo. mis pirad cxovrebaSi<br />

ar Caverevi, radgan yvela<br />

adamiani individia. Tu rame<br />

mqonda SeniSvna ojaxis wevrebTan<br />

da naTesavebTan, yovelTvis<br />

vambob, _ yvelaferSi edaveT<br />

nebismier adamians da mxolod<br />

ara piradul grZnobebSi... Tu<br />

adamiani Tavs moitans, Tavisi<br />

sikeTiT da bednierebiT moitans,<br />

Tu arada, daiRupeba da minimum,<br />

Sen ar dagabralebs, imitom<br />

rom es Tema yvelaze mtkivneulia.<br />

ramaz gagniZem ojaxi gayara...<br />

pirdapir vambob, gayaradaSala,<br />

Tumca gayra niSnavs,<br />

rodesac Tavis wils miuzRavs<br />

pirvel cols, Svils da lamazad<br />

gaistumrebs. ojaxisSvils,<br />

pirovnebas materialuri da aramaterialuri<br />

valdebuleba<br />

yovelTvis akisria da mas es pirnaTlad<br />

unda moexada, magram<br />

ara! _ pirvel colsa da Svils,<br />

dedas, Zmas da das, yovelgvari<br />

mizezis gareSe da uapelaciod,<br />

saSineli tkivili miayena, rac<br />

gamoixateba motyuebiT saxlidan<br />

gayvanaSi, biznesidan fizikuri<br />

zewoliT, maT Soris, dedis,<br />

gagdebiT, sxvaTa dasanaxavad<br />

da taSis dasakvrelad, pompezurobisTvis<br />

da iaffasiani<br />

cirkis mosawyobad. am procesma<br />

kulminacias maSin miaRwia, rodesac<br />

2010 wels Camovedi da<br />

mindoda, ojaxuri gaxleCiloba<br />

damesrulebina, yvelaferi wes-<br />

ioseb gogaSvili<br />

rigSi momeyvana, wertili damesva<br />

am usindiso qmedebebisTvis<br />

da sabolood garkveuliyo yvelaferi<br />

_ vin varT erTmaneTisTvis<br />

da vis ra da ratom gvekuTvnis...<br />

iq xom ojaxis mier datovebuli<br />

materialuri faseulobebi<br />

iyo, romlis Seqmna-<br />

Sic yvelaze meti monawileoba<br />

Tu vinmes hqonda piradi CareviT<br />

da finansurad, Tu saku-<br />

Tari SromiT, gaxldaT, pirvel<br />

rigSi, _ deda, Cveni ojaxis<br />

ufrosi, imitom rom mama 1995<br />

wlidan gardacvlili myavs, misi<br />

danatovaria es faseulobebi da<br />

keTilRirebulebebi, rac dRes<br />

modis, es aucileblad unda<br />

aRvniSno da meore viyavi me... ramaz<br />

gagniZes aranairi moraluri<br />

ufleba ar hqonda, am faseulobebze<br />

pretenziebi gamoexata. CamosvlisTanave<br />

gamomicxada, rom<br />

aranair urTierTobas ar apirebda<br />

CemTan, saerTod ar gamekara.<br />

2008 wlis ivnisidan dawyebul<br />

Tavis biznesSi moTreuli,<br />

swored moTreuli da aranaklebi<br />

TaRliTi momigzavna, suliT<br />

vaWari eSmakuna vaJa gordiaSvili,<br />

romelic „laiT hausis”<br />

biznesTan asocirdeba da romelSic<br />

sabuTebrivad TviTon<br />

aranairad ar monawileobs mraval<br />

da mraval mizezTa gamo. es<br />

yovelTvis SegviZlia davamtkicoT<br />

da SemdgomSi vilaparakoT.<br />

am etapze, ubralod, saintereso<br />

ar aris. maSin davubrundebi,<br />

roca gamoZiebas, Tu vinme pirovnebas<br />

dasWirdeba da vinc konkretulad<br />

dainteresdeba mag<br />

pirovnebis bediT...<br />

ramaz gagniZem 2008 wlis ivnisidan<br />

moyolebuli 2010 wlis<br />

ianvramde am pirovnebas gaabedina<br />

da yovelgvari uRirsobebi<br />

Caadenina, rac misi ojaxis winaa-<br />

Rmdeg yvelanairi SeuracxyofiT<br />

gamoixata.<br />

_ maT Soris, sasamarTlo<br />

dava...<br />

_ zustad sasamarTlo dava<br />

daiwyo 2010 wlis maisidan. am<br />

davis iniciatori da uSualo<br />

monawile iyo ramaz gagniZe.<br />

gagrZeleba meeqvse gv.<br />

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gaicaniT ramaz gagniZe!<br />

mexuTe gverdidan<br />

- am TaRliTTa jgufma yvelaferi<br />

ikadra, risi kadrebac<br />

SeiZleboda. arc sasamarTloSi<br />

damixevia ukan da am interviu-<br />

Sic vimeoreb: ramaz gagniZe da<br />

misi „megobari” arian sulgayiduli<br />

TaRliTebi! ra unda velaparako<br />

kacs, romelic sakuTar<br />

ojaxs sasamarTloSi uCivis?!<br />

vinmem TaRliTi rom damiZaxos,<br />

arc sasamarTlos davelodebi,<br />

arc gamoZiebas da pasuxs kacobiT<br />

da im RirsebiT movTxov,<br />

riTac davibade, aqamde viare da<br />

awic ase vapireb cxovrebis gagrZelebas.<br />

2010 wlis ivnisSi,<br />

rodesac am TaRliTs pirvelad<br />

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Cvens relsebze? es im seriidan<br />

araa, Jurnalistebi verafers rom<br />

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veZebT”. Cem mier gamoqveynebuli<br />

absoluturad uwyinari,<br />

magram informaciuli gzavnili<br />

kolega mediasaSualebis warmomadgenelma,<br />

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„fostalionis” kiTxvas mokled<br />

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2016 wlis 3 maiss.<br />

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pasuxismgebliani mediasaSualebebi<br />

_ sanam masalas uwyebis oficialur<br />

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mogvianebiT gamoqveynebul statussac,<br />

raTa is Tanabar pirobeb-<br />

Si CavayenoT.<br />

(2016 wlis 23 ivnisi _ stili<br />

aqac daculia): „miSistanSi axali<br />

tyuili gamoigones, Turme gvirab-<br />

Si ar eteva Cveni axali matarebeli<br />

da rusebis dasaxmareblad<br />

gviyidia Sveicariuli kompania<br />

„Stadlerisgan” fantastiuri matareblebi:<br />

ra niWierebi arian?!<br />

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axlos tyuilebi mainc moifiqreT.<br />

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daiwyo fexburTSi, vici da raime<br />

didi Cempionati xom ar dawyebula<br />

sisuleleebis TqmaSi da gamomepara?!<br />

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erTmaneTs, vin ufro did<br />

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netav, gamarjvebuls?”<br />

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kritikuli statiebi sainformacio<br />

saagento „aqcentze” gamoqveynda,<br />

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„aqcentis” Jurnalistis mimarT<br />

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erTi mediasaSualebisa da<br />

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loSi Semoyvanis riskebze, jer<br />

kidev, 24 maiss gamoqveynebul<br />

statiaSi saubrobda:<br />

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eleqtronul gverdze arsebobs<br />

saniSne (News Overview) axali ambebis<br />

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bv-sa da Keol-s Soris dadebul xelSekrulebaze<br />

16 eleqtromatareblis<br />

warmoebis Sesaxeb, romlis<br />

Rirebuleba 125 milion evros<br />

Seadgens; (02.03.16 Right on track: Stadler<br />

wins contract in the Netherlands worth<br />

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naxavT informacias imis<br />

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romelic awarmoebs mgzavrTa gadayvanas<br />

qalaq karlsruedan mis<br />

erT-erT gareubanSi, espaneTSi arsebul<br />

„Stadleris” qarxanas (Stadler<br />

Rail Valencia) SeukveTa 25 axali<br />

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ori magaliTic gamodgeba... magram<br />

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CarTuli ar aris. es moZraobis<br />

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teqnikuri maxasiaTeblebi<br />

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da azerbaijanis SemTxvevaSi. aq<br />

yvelafers uzrunvelyofs „saqarTvelos<br />

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donemde wevs! “ _ werda daviT go-<br />

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eleqtromatareblis Sesyidvis<br />

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skandali<br />

qarTulad!<br />

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Seremetievos mimarTulebiT<br />

_ 4+4 sqemiT, anu ori Sewyvilebuli<br />

oTxvagoniani Semadgenlobebi;<br />

domodedovos mimarTulebiT<br />

_ 4+6 sqemiT, anu ori Sewyvilebuli<br />

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Semadgenlobebi. Tumca navTobis<br />

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Ti daayenes, radgan maTi daniSnuleba<br />

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_ „eleqtriCkebi”. qarTvelebma<br />

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ruseTis satransporto kompaniisTvis<br />

11 matarebels aaSenebs 2018<br />

wlis msoflio CempionatisTvis fexburTSi!<br />

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Stadler KISS-Tan dakavSirebiT. danar-<br />

Ceni sazogadoebam gansajos, vis ra<br />

roli da funqcia daekisra aRniSnul<br />

garigebaSi!”<br />

***<br />

axla ki cnobili rkinigzelis<br />

sapasuxod erT-erT yvelaze cno-<br />

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Sexvedraze biZina ivaniSvilma<br />

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masalebi ar miawodes: „ai, axla<br />

gadacemasac mousmenen da mogawvdian<br />

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Seexeba imas, rom aRniSnuli satransporto<br />

saSualeba SedarebiT<br />

mokle manZilisTvisaa gankuTvnili<br />

da ara Sor manZilze turistuli<br />

zolisTvis, ivaniSvilma SekiTxvas<br />

ase upasuxa: „ki, ki, kargi matarebelia”.<br />

axali matareblebis Sesaxeb<br />

araformaluri mmarTvelis Sefasebebi<br />

kidev erTxel gavixseneT.<br />

axla ki rkinigzel goCavas<br />

daskvnebsac morig jerze gavec-<br />

noT: „ruseTisTvis aSenebuli matarebeli<br />

moergeba saqarTvelos?<br />

_ ara, ar moergeba! “ „Stadleris”<br />

Sesaxeb oficialur dokumentacia-<br />

Si miTiTebulia, rom aRniSnuli ma-<br />

8 N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

aris arc xelSekruleba da arc arsebobs.<br />

miqris<br />

zemoT xsenebuli germaniis rkinigzis<br />

eqspertebis daskvna. ucnobia<br />

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maxasiaTeblebi da sxva, ris gare-<br />

Sec, ubralod, SeuZlebelia analizis<br />

gakeTeba.<br />

_ arsebul viTarebaSi ras mi-<br />

iCnevT mTavar problemad?<br />

tarebeli akmayofilebs ruseTis<br />

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am standartis meoTxe Tav-<br />

Si mocemulia eleqtromatareblebis<br />

klasifikacia svlis manZilze da<br />

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Tanaxmad klasifikaciisa,<br />

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ubnis sigrZe Seadgens 150-<br />

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_ moemsaxuros mgzavrebs<br />

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aSenebuli matarebeli ar<br />

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Zlebis raodenobas emateba fexze<br />

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1250 mm, meore SemTxvevaSi _ 800 mm.<br />

mizani gansazRvravs matarebels? _<br />

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aSenebuli matarebeli moergeba<br />

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gaxdeba Stadler KISS-isgan marTlac<br />

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Tu ara dargis specialistebis dasabuTeba<br />

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mxriv, an ekonomikuri analizi?<br />

ratom SeCerda arCevani am konkretul<br />

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relevanturia es gadawyvetileba?<br />

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moZrav sarkinigzo Semadgenlobaze?<br />

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gaumWvirvalea, werilobiT mivmarTeT<br />

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Tumca 30 maisis Semdeg, praqtikulad,<br />

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gaTvlilia es faqtori da ramdenad<br />

arsebobs safuZvliani analizi<br />

amas dro gviCvenebs. ramdenad iqneba<br />

adaptirebuli Cvens reliefze,<br />

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gaTvlili matarebeli?<br />

vrceldeba informacia TiTqos<br />

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SeZenili Stadler KISS-is matareblebi<br />

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Semowmebuli da dadasturebulia<br />

germaniis rkinigzis (Deutsche Bahn<br />

AG – DB international) Sesabamisi<br />

eqspertebis mier da gacemulia dadebiTi<br />

daskvna. Tumca sajaro ar<br />

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_ mTavari problemaa maTi<br />

damokidebuleba da midgoma. es<br />

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100%-ian wils flobs sapartnioro<br />

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gavwioT.<br />

_ da mTavari kiTxva: gaivlis<br />

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li wifis gvirabSi?<br />

_ dRes yvelaze metad „saqar-<br />

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Sedegi naTelia: es aris istebliSmentis<br />

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etyoba, Sumanis aqts Tavisi naklovanebebic<br />

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sworad, Sumanis aqts ki ara _<br />

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udidesi movlena iyo, iseve rogorc<br />

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kargad Seerwya _ daiwyo social-demokratiuli<br />

sivrcis<br />

nel-nela neoliberalizacia.<br />

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SirSi, bevris azriT, naadrevad<br />

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Sotlandia da CrdiloeT<br />

irlandia evrokavSiris xaTriT<br />

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elitebis neoliberaluri korufcia - es namdvilad<br />

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proeqti iyo~<br />

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turad gaSiSvlda, rogorc usindoso<br />

tyuili. es gaumaZRari<br />

banditebi, _ „msxvil kerZo mesakuTreTa”<br />

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ofSorebSi emaleba da es<br />

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erT-erTi „cisfersisxliani<br />

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jeb buSma, praimeri<br />

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aRmoCnda, ubralo amerikeli<br />

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ukeT icnobs, vidre misi<br />

politikosi oponentebi. politikosoba<br />

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moxda, rom neoliberalizmis<br />

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profesiad eqcia _ arada,<br />

es ase ar aris. politikosoba<br />

aris movaleoba da ara privilegia.<br />

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procents amdidrebs, danarCeni<br />

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monoliTma rRveva daiwyo~<br />

yvelas miecema bednierebisken<br />

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yvelaze relevanturi ki-<br />

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istoriaSi? aris Tu ara breqsiti<br />

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amaze pasuxs uaxloes or weliwadSi<br />

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radgan qibar xalvaSi arasodes<br />

yofila am televiziis realuri<br />

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man imitom daTmo ase advilad<br />

televizia (Tu rame axsovT „rus-<br />

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personals), rom uazrod<br />

ereoda saredaqcio politikaSi.<br />

amitom es aris gamocxadebuli<br />

mkvlelobis qronika da me, ubralod,<br />

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rogorc maSin, noemberSi ar gamouvidaT,<br />

iseve ar gamouvaT dResac.<br />

_ ivaniSvilis kalendari ax-<br />

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procesi arCevnebze da, saerTod,<br />

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_ pirvel rigSi, qveynis swori<br />

gziT ganviTarebaze uaryofiTad<br />

imoqmedebs. Cven axla gvelaparakebian,<br />

bizness rogor icaven, sfero<br />

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ria?<br />

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me-18 muxliT evropis adamianis<br />

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imiji.<br />

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„rusTavi 2"-is procesebi ramde-<br />

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ciaze?<br />

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ufro Cveni mTavrobis unia-<br />

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wlis aprilSi miiRo, maSin arc migrantebis<br />

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strasburgis gadawyvetilebas<br />

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televizias yovelgvari<br />

kanonebis gareSe xelisufleba da<br />

oligarqi ivaniSvili iTrevs... axla,<br />

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`ivaniSvili acnobierebs,<br />

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aris axla gadmomdgari da yvela<br />

televizias aZlevs intervius, Tu<br />

rogori saamuria cxovreba...<br />

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miiRo. me da Tqven vixdiT, sxvaTa<br />

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vimeoreb: saubaria ramdenime biznesmenze,<br />

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mTavrobasTan? karis biznesmenebic<br />

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Tanamdebobis pirebi. mecineba<br />

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swori nabiji gadadga,<br />

rodesac sazogadoebas ganucxada,<br />

rom arCevnebSi damoukideblad miiRebs<br />

monawileobas.<br />

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gagrZeleba 30-e gv.<br />

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iuri vazagaSvilis mokvlis mizniT<br />

16<br />

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SirebiT?<br />

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yovelgvari mtkicebulebis<br />

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ar arsebobs.<br />

Cemi dacvis qveS myofi mudmivad<br />

acxadebs, rom saxelmwifo<br />

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braldebis erTaderTi mtkicebuleba,<br />

faliaze dnm-is kvalis<br />

arseboba, ara pirdapiri, aramed<br />

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ojaxi<br />

uzrunvelyofili<br />

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Tanamdeboba Seewira. viTom gegmuri Semowmeba Caatares da TanamSromlebi<br />

gauSves. riT Seedavebi? jer daskvna ar uWiravs xelSi saxelmwifo<br />

mbraldebels da dRevandeli mTavrobis mTavari prokurori, maSindeli<br />

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doneze ar iyo, rom raRac realuri SedegisTvis mieRwia~<br />

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qveS myofi saerTod udanaSauloa.<br />

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xeli aqvs mowerili eqspert<br />

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Rebuli nivTieri mtkicebuleba<br />

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erTi „ergedes” tipis xelyumbarebi<br />

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SeiZleba, materialuri da moraluri<br />

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marto is faqti rad<br />

Rirs, rom dakavebamde erTi dRiT<br />

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mere Cven vaxmaurebT aRniSnul<br />

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Tanamdeboba Seewira. viTom<br />

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TanamSromlebi gauSves. riT Seedavebi?<br />

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gaxsnilia, damnaSave davakaveTo.<br />

da es yvelaferi yovelgvari mtkicebulebis<br />

gareSe xdeba.<br />

amitom es aris adamianis uflebaTa<br />

dacvis evropuli konvenciis<br />

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uflebis darRveva...<br />

saxelmwifo braldeba saTanado<br />

doneze ar iyo, rom raRac<br />

realuri SedegisTvis mieRwia.<br />

_ sxva zewola xom ar yofila<br />

sosanaSvilis mimarT?<br />

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mogcemT, Seni ojaxi uzrunvelyofili<br />

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dacvis qveS myofma, rom is udanaSauloa,<br />

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ubralod, kidev geubnebiT, es<br />

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ar Caudenia.<br />

_ am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />

ras apirebT?<br />

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Civrebas vgegmavT, rogorc kanoni<br />

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aseve saxelmwifosa da mTavrobas<br />

moraluri da materialuri<br />

zianis anazRaurebas davakisreb.<br />

procesi Zalian briyvulad<br />

aris warmarTuli, amitom saxelmwifo<br />

braldebas nebismier momentSi<br />

SeuZlia moxsnas mis mier warmodgenili<br />

mtkicebuleba da miiCnios<br />

axlad Seqmnili viTarebis gamosakvlevad.<br />

albaT, uzenaesi sasamarTlo<br />

mainc Caukvirdeba da saapelacios,<br />

meore instancias daubrunebs<br />

Tavisi miTiTebebiT. Cven<br />

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mtkicebulebebi ar arsebobs.<br />

Tu arada, aucileblad strasburgSi<br />

mogviwevs wasvla. iq piradad<br />

me Caval da mag saqmes mivxedav.<br />

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saqarTvelos advokatTa asociaciis<br />

Tavmjdomare zaza xatiaSvilma<br />

xelisuflebis struqturebis<br />

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sazogadoebis mimarT<br />

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Tamar batiaSvili<br />

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muSaobda da CubiniZesTan Zmakacobs~<br />

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marebiT da ara iraklisgan, magram<br />

es gzavnilebi sasamarTlom uaryo.<br />

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aRniSnuli iqneboda, xelmZRvanelis<br />

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rTuli?<br />

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_ ratom?<br />

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Tanxa moitana. produqtis erTerTma<br />

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daxarja da adgilze ar miitana _<br />

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maTi Semosavlebis eqspertiza<br />

unda Catarebuliyo, Sps wisqvilkombinat<br />

„Tbiliss” maTTan saqmiani<br />

urTierToba hqonda da am formiT<br />

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buli ar aris. buRalteri valdebulia,<br />

buRaltruli dokumentacia<br />

awarmoos da mas fulis Senaxvaze<br />

kontroli ar evaleba.<br />

Temur qurasbediani danaSaulebrivad<br />

daukavSirda irakli lipartelianso,<br />

_ aRniSnavs sasamarTlo.<br />

saidan askvnis amas, esec gaurkvevelia,<br />

radgan daukavSirdnen<br />

Tu ara isini erTmaneTs, es mxolod<br />

maTi CvenebiT SeiZleboda<br />

garkveuliyo.<br />

2013 wlis 27 Tebervlis brZanebiT<br />

irakli liparteliani aris<br />

daniSnuli gamyidvelis Tanamdebobaze<br />

da xelfasad daeniSna 800<br />

lari, Tumca sasamarTlo ambobs,<br />

rom is imyofeboda sawarmos realizaciis<br />

ufrosis Tanamdebobaze<br />

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eyrdnoba, esec gaurkvevelia.<br />

SromiTi xelSekrulebiT Temur<br />

qusabediansa da irakli lipartelians<br />

sarealizacio punqtSi<br />

Sesul Tanxebze kontroli ar evalebodaT.<br />

2013 wlis 1-li Tebervlis<br />

brZanebiT liparteliani gadaiyvanes<br />

imereTis regionis realizaciis<br />

ufrosad. sasamarTlo ar<br />

aRniSnavs da dums imaze, rom ar<br />

aris dadebuli amis damamtkicebeli<br />

SromiTi xelSekruleba Sps ,,bevrili<br />

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yvela daskvna da gadawyvetileba<br />

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2010 wlidan, amave periodSi gamyidvelad<br />

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xaWapuriZe, daTo lomiZe da veravin<br />

mixvdeba, saidan askvnis gamo-<br />

Zieba, rom irakli lipartelianma<br />

da Temur qurasbedianma miiTvises<br />

es Tanxebi? danaklisis warmomavloba<br />

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_ daviT kutalaZe saubrobda,<br />

rom saqme ar iyo srulyofili,<br />

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daviT kutalaZis Cveneba, rom igi<br />

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sagamoZiebo nawilSi da aRniSnul<br />

saqmeze iyo sagamoZiebo jgufis<br />

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da aRniSnuli Tanxa eqspertizis<br />

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da daifara mogvianebiT. daviT kutalaZem<br />

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azriT monacemebi iyo yalbi, amityofili<br />

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om konsignatorebi ra Tanxasac<br />

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daskvniT dadgenil Tanxas unda<br />

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Catarebula yovelmxrivi, srulyofili<br />

da obieqturi gamoZieba,<br />

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Cvenebazec arviTari daskvna<br />

ar gaakeTa da rac undoda, is<br />

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Tavis ganaCenSi aseT ramesac<br />

aRniSnavs: miuxedavad xelSekrulebaSi<br />

miTiTebuli pasuxismgeblobisa,<br />

cxadia, erTi mxriv, 2013<br />

wlis Tebervlamde irakli lipartelians<br />

sawyobSi momuSave pirs,<br />

gamyidvels, xolo 2013 wlis Tebervlamde<br />

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meore mxriv, Temur qurasbedians,<br />

rogorc buRalters miuwvdebodaT<br />

xeli im fulad Tanxebze, rac<br />

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Sedegad unda gadaricxuliyo,<br />

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orive braldebuls hqonda wvdoma<br />

gadaricxvamdeo. magram sasamarTlo<br />

araswor daskvnebs akeTebs<br />

aRniSnulTan dakvSirebiT. braldebulebs<br />

rom hqondaT wvdoma<br />

Tanxebze gadaricxvamde, es ar ni-<br />

Snavs imas, rom aRniSnuli Tanxa<br />

aucileblad maT miiTvises. Tanac<br />

am TanxebTan wvdoma aseve hqondaT<br />

mZRolebs, sxva gamyidvelebs, xuTi<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi zaza CubiniZes<br />

da sxva pirebs, vinc saqonels gascemda.<br />

sasamarTlom ki daskvnebi<br />

daamyara mxolod varaudebze, rac<br />

usamarTlobaa.<br />

kidev erT saintereso faqtze<br />

getyviT: sawarmos gaxsnis dRidan,<br />

2013 wlis ianvramde, misi direqtori<br />

iyo zaza CubiniZe. aseve ramdenime<br />

gamyidveli muSaobda aRniSnuli<br />

periodis ganmavlobaSi da<br />

nebismier gamyidvelze, aseve zaza<br />

CubiniZeze SegviZlia vivaraudoT,<br />

rom Tanxebi miiTvises, magram sasamarTlos<br />

aseTi mkacri gadawyvetilebebi<br />

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CvenebiT gela gaguas vali<br />

hqonda 26 000 lari. man valis magier<br />

Cado bina, romelic irakli<br />

lipartelianis saxelze gaformda<br />

da ara wisqvilkombinatis saxelze.<br />

misTvis, Turme, aseve cnobilia,<br />

rom zugdidis realizaciis ufross<br />

zaza CubiniZem saxlis aveji<br />

SeuZina, rac sabuTebSi gatarebuli<br />

ar iyo. zestafonidan Tu quTaisidan,<br />

arCevnebis periodSi, Wia-<br />

TuraSi gaigzavna fqvili saCuqrad<br />

zaza CubiniZis mier. zaza CubiniZis<br />

mamac am kombinatSi muSaobda.<br />

`zestafonidan Tu quTaisidan, arCevnebis periodSi, WiaTuraSi gaigzavna<br />

fqvili saCuqrad zaza CubiniZis mier. zaza CubiniZis mamac am kombinatSi<br />

muSaobda. misi ganmartebiT, yovel meore dRes morigeobda kombinatSi, 4-5<br />

manqanas iRebdnen obieqtze da TiTo manqanaze xan 20, xanac 50 tomara fqvili<br />

aklda. misive ganmartebiT, gafuWebuli fqvilic Semodioda... yovelive amis<br />

Semdeg, danaklisi, ra Tqma unda, iqneboda da es arc irakli lipartelianis<br />

da arc Temur qurasbedianis brali ar aris. uamravi aseTi darRvevis<br />

detalebze SemiZlia visaubro. rac am saqmis sasamarTlo ganxilvaze moxda,<br />

amaze saubars Tqveni gazeTis furclebi ar eyofa. yvelaze mTavari ki mainc<br />

is aris, rom ar daikiTxnen is adamianebi - CubiniZe da Canqseliani, romelTa<br />

Cvenebebsac SeeZlo, simarTlisTvis naTeli moefina. Suamdgomlobebis<br />

mravaljer dayenebis miuxedavad, maTi dakiTxva ver moxerxda~<br />

zurab rostiaSvili<br />

misi ganmartebiT, yovel meore<br />

dRes morigeobda kombinatSi, 4-5<br />

manqanas iRebdnen obieqtze da Ti-<br />

To manqanaze xan 20, xanac 50 tomara<br />

fqvili aklda. misive ganmartebiT,<br />

gafuWebuli fqvilic Semodioda...<br />

yovelive amis Semdeg, danaklisi,<br />

ra Tqma unda, iqneboda da<br />

es arc irakli lipartelianis da<br />

arc Temur qurasbedianis brali<br />

ar aris. uamravi aseTi darRvevis<br />

detalebze SemiZlia visaubro. rac<br />

am saqmis sasamarTlo ganxilvaze<br />

moxda, amaze saubars Tqveni gaze-<br />

Tis furclebi ar eyofa.<br />

yvelaze mTavari ki mainc is<br />

aris, rom ar daikiTxnen is adamianebi<br />

_ CubiniZe da Canqseliani,<br />

romelTa Cvenebebsac SeeZlo, simarTlisTvis<br />

naTeli moefina. Suamdgomlobebis<br />

mravaljer dayenebis<br />

miuxedavad, maTi dakiTxva<br />

ver moxerxda.<br />

_ sasamarTlo ratom iyo ten-<br />

denciuri?<br />

_ magis Tqma ar SemiZlia, Tumca<br />

raRac rom xdeboda da am saqmis<br />

mosamarTleebic samarTlianobas-<br />

Tan mwyralad iyvnen, faqtia. am<br />

saqmeze samarTali jer kidev aRsadgenia<br />

da ojaxis moTxovnac<br />

aucileblad unda dakmayofildes<br />

_ ipovon namdvili damnaSave da<br />

dasajon.<br />

„qronika+” zaza CubiniZes<br />

daukavSirda:<br />

_ am saqmeze aravin damiWeria.<br />

wisqvilkombinatis mepatroneebma<br />

Tavad Seitanes saCivari imereTis<br />

prokuraturaSi da iq aRZres es<br />

saqme. liparteliani da qurasbediani<br />

ukrainidan rom Camoiyvanes,<br />

manamde iq Casulebi iyvnen kombinatis<br />

mepatroneebi _ Canqselianebi<br />

da samarTaldamcvelebs isini<br />

exmarebodnen orives dakavebaSi.<br />

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es patimrebi ar mjdaran da arc<br />

maT saqmeSi mimiRia monawileoba. is<br />

muxli, romliTac saqmea aRZruli,<br />

policiis qvemdebare ar aris, is<br />

gaxlavT prokuraturisa da finansuri<br />

policiis qvemdebare.<br />

2012 wlis noember-dekemberSi<br />

kombinatidan wamovedi da Ss saministroSi<br />

daviwye muSaoba; 2013<br />

wels ki qurasbedianma da lipartelianma<br />

samsaxurebi miatoves da<br />

sazRvargareT wavidnen. ratom miatoves,<br />

amas mxolod Ziebis dros<br />

vgebulobdi. marTlac viyavi am<br />

wisqvilkombinatSi xelmZRvanel<br />

Tanamdebobaze, magram TanxebTan<br />

Sexeba ar mqonia. es sawyobi quTais-<br />

Si 2007 wels gaixsna da menejerad<br />

daviniSne, buRalteri daviT lomiZe<br />

iyo, romelic Carqselianebis<br />

naTesavia. Cemi funqcia gaxldaT<br />

klientis moZieba, produqciis dacva<br />

da realizacia, danarCens buRalteri<br />

akeTebda. Tu konsignatori<br />

vadas gadaacdenda da Tanxas<br />

ar moitanda, buRalteri maT<br />

gvar-saxels maZlevda, vakiTxavdi<br />

da Tanxebs viRebdi. yvela am kiTxvaze<br />

prokuraturaSi pasuxi maqvs<br />

gacemuli, roca Tbilisis prokuraturam<br />

damkiTxa. cota xnis winaT<br />

policiidan Cemi wamosvlac, sinamdvileSi,<br />

Canqselianebis mier<br />

moxda, radgan isini Cemi mtrebi<br />

arian.<br />

sasamarTlom ar CaTvala da mowmeTa<br />

siaSi Cavewere. lipartelianis<br />

dedam da advokatma mTxoves,<br />

_ iqneb, sasamarTloSi moxvide,<br />

kiTxvebi gvaqvs, romelic Cvens mxares<br />

waadgebao. Cemi Cveneba, romelic<br />

prokuraturas miveci, sasamarTlom<br />

gamoaqveyna. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, mainc mivedi sasamarTloze,<br />

magram maT advokats Cems dakiTxvaze<br />

dayenebuli Suamdgomloba ar<br />

hqonda da sasamarTlom uari ganmicxada.<br />

amis mere wamovedi, aba, iq<br />

xom ar davrCebodi?<br />

Canqselianebi Cemi mtrebi arian<br />

da isini rogor damniSnavdnen Tanamdebobaze?<br />

andac me Tu maT biznesSi<br />

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pasuxs? axla me Tqven<br />

gelaparakebiT kacurad, _ sad<br />

RaribaSvili da sad Canqselianebi?<br />

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xelmZRvanelebic erTi ojaxis<br />

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da me rom marTla rame dameSavebina,<br />

damindobdnen? liparteliani<br />

da qurasbediani cud mdgomareoba-<br />

Si arian, magram axla Canqselianebis<br />

davalebiT moqmedeben da roca saWiro<br />

gaxdeba, amas aucileblad davamtkiceb.<br />

saamarTlom ukve gamoitana<br />

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veravin wavalT. axali gamo-<br />

Ziebis dawyeba Zmeb Canqselianebis<br />

dakveTaa. ki batono, kidev gamoiZion,<br />

kidev viTanamSromleb gamoZiebasTan,<br />

magram minda icodeT, rom me<br />

var Canqselianebis devnis qveS. sasamarTlo<br />

sxdomebze Cems ojaxis<br />

wevrebs fizikuradac exebodnen da<br />

iq saSinelebebs axdendnen. tyved<br />

egeni hyavs axla Canqselians. Semi-<br />

Zlia, TbilisSi Camovide da yvela<br />

kiTxvaze gagceT pasuxi, radgan Jurnalisturi<br />

gamoZieba CemTvis Zalian<br />

avtoritetulia. aqamde am sakiTxs<br />

yvela mediasaSualeba calmxrivad<br />

aSuqebda, aravin mirekavda da<br />

arafers mekiTxeboda. didi madloba,<br />

rom damikavSirdiT da Cemi poziciis<br />

dafiqsirebis saSualeba momeciT.<br />

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korufcia samegreloSi da<br />

eka uridia<br />

samegreloSi korufciis kidev<br />

erTi mimarTuleba kargad SerCeuli<br />

da SeniRbuli gegmis mixed-<br />

viT „yvavis”.<br />

gubernatori levan Sonia am<br />

kuTxiTac niWieri aRmoCnda. meriasa<br />

da sakrebulosTan garigebiT,<br />

Sps kompaniebze specialuri<br />

satendero pirobebis SeqmniT,<br />

erTi SexedviT, „sarfiani<br />

korufcia” SeniRba. Tumca sayvareli<br />

saqmianobis sruli konspiracia<br />

mainc ver moaxerxa im<br />

ubralo mizezTa gamo, rom sakrebulos<br />

TanamSromlebis ojaxis<br />

wevrebsa da Tavad mis megobrebze<br />

gadaanawila satendero<br />

bizneswilebi. oTxi wlis manZilze<br />

am faqtebma sxva struqturis<br />

TanamSromlebi aalaparaka,<br />

Tumca prokuratura da finansuri<br />

policia dRemde Tbil qveynebSi<br />

gadamfreni mercxlebis<br />

pozicias ikavebda da arc erT<br />

faqtze ar dainteresebula. isini,<br />

mxolod da mxolod, im<br />

dros gamoCndebian, roca gubernatoris<br />

miTiTebas miiReben.<br />

es ukve im SemTxvevaSi, roca misi<br />

„sawilo” biznesisTvis niadagi<br />

mzaddeba, an biznesze misi<br />

daintereseba Cndeba.<br />

Sps samSeneblo kompaniebi,<br />

romlebic dRes tenderebSi imarjveben,<br />

2013-2015 wlebSi daregistrirda;<br />

aseve kerZo pirebic,<br />

romlebic indmewarmis saqmianobas<br />

ewevian.<br />

4-wliani mmarTvelobis SedegiT<br />

gamarjvebuli kompaniis<br />

mflobelebi arian zugdidis<br />

sakrebulos wevrebis mSoblebi<br />

da lobirebiT Camoyvanili kompaniebi,<br />

romelTaTvis meriaSi<br />

satendero pirobebi winaswari<br />

SerCeviT iwereba.<br />

aqve gTavazobT CamonaTva-<br />

lis nawils:<br />

1. indmewarme eldar fifia<br />

(metsaxelad „arwiva”) _ zugdidis<br />

sakrebulos wevris, ganaTlebis,<br />

kulturis, sportisa da<br />

axalgazrdul saqmeTa komisiis<br />

Tavmjdomaris, naTia fifias mama.<br />

misi kompanioni soso Todua<br />

_ sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris<br />

moadgilis, giorgi Toduas mama;<br />

2. indmewarme soso gogoxia _<br />

eldar fifias partniori, zugdidis<br />

municipalitetis sakrebulos<br />

wevri;<br />

3. Sps „zugdidmSenservisi” _<br />

zugdidis meris moadgilis (zugdidis<br />

meri irakli gogoxia misi<br />

mejvarea), koba jiqias simamari,<br />

Temur janaSias mflobelobaSia.<br />

mTavari inJineri aris<br />

besik Todua _ arqiteqturis<br />

samsaxuris ufrosis, ekaterine<br />

Toduas mama;<br />

4. Sps „akaenerji” _ kaxaber<br />

azikuri (kaxa kalaZesTan dakav-<br />

Sirebuli kompania), Camoyvanas<br />

lobirebs vice-meri gulordava.<br />

5. Sps „jorjian stouni” (ba-<br />

Tumi, qobuleTi). am kompaniis<br />

warmomadgeneli zugdidSi aris<br />

irakli gogoxias Zma, paata gogoxia.<br />

Sps „legi” misi partniori<br />

organizaciaa;<br />

6. Sps „gilani XXI” _ avTandil<br />

wirRvava, leqso wirRvava.<br />

zugdidis vice-meris, gia gulordavas<br />

lobirebis qveS (garda<br />

amisa, erT pirTan molaparkebiT<br />

am kompanias mieca yinulis saxlis<br />

850 aTasi da sportis sasaxlis<br />

gadaxurvis 250 aTasi);<br />

7. Sps „gzamSeni” da qvekontraqtori<br />

„ami 2014" _ e. w. qvafenilebis<br />

saqme _ zugdidis vice-meris,<br />

gia gulordavas lobirebiT;<br />

8. Sps „rezi 10" _ arCil xubunia,<br />

vice-meri gulordavas<br />

lobirebiT;<br />

9. Sps „kavkasenergo” _ vicemer<br />

gulordavas Camohyavs.<br />

eldar fifia, `arwiva~<br />

`aseve erT pirTan molparakebiT aqvT<br />

gadaricxuli yinulis saxlze 850 aTasi lari<br />

da 250 aTasi lari sportdarbazis<br />

gadaxurvisTvis, Sps `gilanisTvis~, romelic<br />

pirdapir vice-mer gulordavasTanaa<br />

dakavSirebuli. igi biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

kurselia. yinulis saxli wina xelisuflebis<br />

dros Seisyides da, rogorc iqna, TveobiT<br />

lodinis Semdeg Sps `gilanma~, specialurad am<br />

kompaniisTvis daamontaJa. es samuSaoebi didi<br />

xani inaxeboda. yinulis saxli uxarisxod<br />

Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis gamo, oficialur<br />

gaxsnamde, CamoengraT. ani wiTliZis<br />

ganmartebiT, samuSaoebi uxarisxod da aseve<br />

uxarisxo masaliT Sesrulda. rac<br />

dokumentebSi dafiqsirda, yinulis saxli im<br />

xarisxis masalebiT ar damontaJebula.<br />

miuxedavad amisa, reabilitaciisTvis meriam<br />

erT pirTan molaparakebiT kvlav am kompanias<br />

Cauricxa Tanxa, -150 000 larze meti.<br />

zugdidSi meriis mier samSeneblo samuSaoebze<br />

gamocxadebul tenderebs ufro metad Sonia-<br />

gulordavas megobrebis kompaniebi igebs~<br />

irakli gogoxia,<br />

zugdidis meri<br />

aseve erT pirTan molparakebiT<br />

aqvT gadaricxuli yinulis<br />

saxlze 850 aTasi lari da 250<br />

aTasi lari sportdarbazis gadaxurvisTvis,<br />

Sps „gilanis-<br />

Tvis”, romelic pirdapir vicemer<br />

gulordavasTanaa dakavSirebuli.<br />

igi biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

kurselia. yinulis saxli wina<br />

xelisuflebis dros Seisyides<br />

da, rogorc iqna, TveobiT lodinis<br />

Semdeg Sps „gilanma”, specialurad<br />

am kompaniisTvis daamontaJa.<br />

es samuSaoebi didi<br />

xani inaxeboda. yinulis saxli<br />

uxarisxod Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis<br />

gamo, oficialur gaxsnamde,<br />

CamoengraT. ani wiTliZis<br />

ganmartebiT, samuSaoebi uxarisxod<br />

da aseve uxarisxo masaliT<br />

Sesrulda. rac dokumentebSi<br />

dafiqsirda, yinulis saxli<br />

im xarisxis masalebiT ar damontaJebula.<br />

miuxedavad amisa,<br />

reabilitaciisTvis meriam erT<br />

pirTan molaparakebiT kvlav am<br />

kompanias Cauricxa Tanxa, _ 150<br />

000 larze meti.<br />

zugdidSi meriis mier sam-<br />

Seneblo samuSaoebze gamocxadebul<br />

tenderebs ufro metad<br />

Sonia-gulordavas megobrebis<br />

kompaniebi igebs.<br />

Sps „akaenerjisaTvis” satendero<br />

pirobebi meriam winaswar<br />

SeimuSava. kompanias, romelic<br />

gare ganaTebebis samontaJo samuSaoebi<br />

unda Seesrulebina,<br />

meriis wesdebis mixedviT, am<br />

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megruli klanis gaSifruli sqema<br />

`Sps `akaenerjisaTvis~ satendero pirobebi<br />

meriam winaswar SeimuSava. kompanias, romelic<br />

gare ganaTebebis samontaJo samuSaoebi unda<br />

Seesrulebina, meriis wesdebis mixedviT, am<br />

saxis samuSaoebSi gamocdileba unda hqonoda,<br />

rac, am SemTxvevaSi, sxva kompaniebisgan<br />

gansxvavebiT, mxolod Sps `akaenerjs~ hqonda.<br />

Tumca eqspertebis ganmartebiT tenderSi<br />

monawile yvela kompanias SeeZlo es<br />

samuSaoebi Seesrulebina, magram meriis mier<br />

Sedgenili satendero wesebis mixedviT,<br />

aucilebel pirobad `gamocdileba~<br />

ganisazRvra, raTa gamarjvebul kompaniad Sps<br />

`akaenerji~ gamovleniliyo. es kompania kaxi<br />

kalaZis megobris, kaxaber azikuris<br />

mflobelobaSia. swored kaxi kalaZis<br />

lobirebiT SeirCa aRniSnuli kompania.<br />

levan Sonia, samegrelo-zemo<br />

svaneTis gubernatori<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

irakli gogoxia,<br />

zugdidis meri<br />

koba jiqia,<br />

zugdidis meris<br />

moadgile<br />

saxis samuSaoebSi gamocdileba<br />

unda hqonoda, rac, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

sxva kompaniebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />

mxolod Sps „akaenerjs”<br />

hqonda. Tumca eqspertebis<br />

ganmartebiT tenderSi monawile<br />

yvela kompanias SeeZlo es<br />

samuSaoebi Seesrulebina, magram<br />

meriis mier Sedgenili satendero<br />

wesebis mixedviT, aucilebel<br />

pirobad „gamocdileba”<br />

ganisazRvra, raTa gamarjvebul<br />

kompaniad Sps „akaenerji” gamovleniliyo.<br />

es kompania kaxi kalaZis<br />

megobris, kaxaber azikuris<br />

mflobelobaSia. swored<br />

kaxi kalaZis lobirebiT SeirCa<br />

aRniSnuli kompania.<br />

kompaniebisTvis, romlebic<br />

samuSaoebs asruleben, Ser-<br />

Ceulia maRaziebi, sadac sam-<br />

Seneblo masalebs Seisyidian,<br />

rac aseve korufciuli sqemis<br />

erT-erTi nawilia.<br />

kidev erTi meTodi, romli-<br />

Tac meria-sakrebulo Seecada,<br />

tenderebis realoba SeeniRba:<br />

man xelovnurad gazarda tenderebSi<br />

monawile kompaniebis<br />

da fizikuri pirebis raodenoba,<br />

romlebic Tvalis asaxvevad<br />

igive kompaniis mflobelebs ekuTvnis,<br />

magram saWiroebis gamo,<br />

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radgan satendero komisiaSi<br />

erTi da igive dasaxelebis<br />

kompaniebis mogeba ar dafiqsirdes.<br />

anu erT SemTxvevaSi<br />

erTi da igive pirovnebis sami<br />

kompaniidan tenders ori agebs,<br />

xolo erTi imarjvebs, rac, er-<br />

Ti SexedviT, ar Cans, magram saqmeSi<br />

didi dakvirveba ar dag-<br />

WirdebaT, Tu tendereze moTamaSe<br />

kompaniebis pirvelad sias<br />

da mis mflobelebs icnobT, aseve<br />

Tu icnobT da iciT Zveli<br />

da axali mflobelebis urTierT<br />

biznesgarigebebi. am sakiTxs<br />

sakrebuloSi opoziciuri<br />

konkurenti wevrebic ise faqtebiT<br />

icnoben da gikonkreteben,<br />

gegoneba, gakveTilad hqondaT<br />

dasamuSavebeli. amdenad, sqema<br />

kargad gaSifrulia!!!<br />

zugdidSi Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis<br />

uxarisxobaze sakrebulos<br />

wevrma ani wiTliZem ramdenime<br />

brifingi gamarTa da faqtebi<br />

gaasajarova. misi ganmartebiT,<br />

q. zugdidSi dagebuli<br />

qvafenilis maRali xarisxi, mxolod<br />

da mxolod, dokumenteb-<br />

Si aRiniSneba, xolo dagebuli<br />

qvafenili sul sxva realobas<br />

asaxavs da Zalian dabali xarisxisaa.<br />

igi Seisyides meris Zmis,<br />

paata gogoxias kuTvnili kompaniis,<br />

Sps „legis” qarxnidan. mu-<br />

Sebs dRemde ar auRiaT Sesrulebuli<br />

samuSaoebis anazRaureba.<br />

samuSaoebi Sps „ami 2014"-<br />

ma Seasrula, romelmac muSebs<br />

Tanxa ver gadauxada. miuxedavad<br />

aqciebisa, muSebi am dromde<br />

iTxoven Tanxis anazRaurebas.<br />

am faqtze safinanso policiaSi<br />

saqme aRiZra. daikiTxnen<br />

muSebi, aseve ukve mimalvaSi myofi<br />

kompaniis mflobeli, amiran<br />

kartozia. meriis gancxadebiT,<br />

aRniSnul kompanias Tanxa<br />

droulad gadaericxa.<br />

sakrebulos wevri wiTliZe<br />

acxadebs, rom meriis brZanebiT<br />

Sps „ami 2014" diskvalificirebulia<br />

da mas da aRar SeeZlo<br />

tenderebSi monawileoba, Tumca<br />

vice-mer gia gulordavas<br />

CareviT aRniSnulma kompaniam<br />

kvlav moaxerxa samuSaoebis Sesruleba.<br />

am samuSaoebze tenderi<br />

moigo vice-meris megobris<br />

kompania Sps „gzamSenma”, romlis<br />

qvekontraqtori gaxda Sps<br />

„ami 2014". mogvianebiT, muSebze<br />

gasacemi xelfasebi gulordavas<br />

wili gaxda „atkatebis” saxiT.<br />

ani wiTliZis mtkicebiT, gulordavam<br />

am SemTxvevaSi amiran<br />

kartoziasgan zugdidis „mayureblis”,<br />

xviCa cxakaias SuamavlobiT<br />

ufro meti Tanxa waiRo<br />

droebiT gamosayeneblad, vidre<br />

„atkatebis” saxiT ekuTvnoda.<br />

amiran kartozias Tanxa<br />

dRemde ar daubruna. muSebi anazRaurebas<br />

elian da dRemde<br />

danapirebis amara rCebian. rom<br />

ara meriisa da sakrebulos Soris<br />

aseTi „Sexmatkbilebuli”<br />

garigeba, erTi xeliT Seqmnil<br />

korufciul satendero sqemas<br />

meore xeliTve daangrevda Semqmneli,<br />

radgan finansur SemosavlebTn<br />

erTad ubedurebis<br />

didi nawilic korufcias moaqvs.<br />

am faqtebze xmauris Semdeg<br />

meriam da sakrebulom satendero<br />

bazarze axali kompaniebi<br />

da indmewarmeebi Semoiyvana.<br />

maTi mxridan msxvil tendereb-<br />

Si mogebis SemTxvevaSic qvekontraqtorad<br />

igive kompaniis<br />

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da gankargavdnen finansebs.<br />

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mogebaSi monawileoben: sakrebulos<br />

maRali Tanamdebobis<br />

piris naTia fifias mama, indmewarme<br />

eldar fifia, metsaxelad<br />

gia gulordava<br />

zugdidis vice-meri<br />

goga Todua,<br />

zugdidis s/k<br />

Tavmjdomaris<br />

moadgile<br />

„arwiva”; sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris<br />

moagilis goga Toduas<br />

mama, soso Todua; mTavari arqitetoris<br />

eka Toduas mama, besik<br />

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jiqias simamri, Temur jana-<br />

Sia. es im adamianTa mcire CamonaTvalia,<br />

romelTac zemoTqmul<br />

meriis gamocxadebul sam-<br />

Seneblo samuSaoebis tenderebis<br />

mogebaSi merab qvaraia lobirebs.<br />

Tanamoazreebs swored aseTi<br />

merab qvaraia,<br />

zugdidis s/k<br />

Tavmjdomare<br />

naTia fifia,<br />

zugdidis s/k<br />

wevri, komisiis<br />

Tavmjdomare<br />

garigegebiT Seqmnili sqemebis<br />

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SeuRweveli iqneba...<br />

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ganzraxvebs moargo.<br />

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es sqema moiTxovs...<br />

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doebisTvis burusiT moculi rCeba.<br />

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miuxedavad imasa, rom afeTqebidan<br />

uCveulo siswrafiT,<br />

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demontaJi daiwyo, momxdaris<br />

oficialur mizezad dasaxelebuli<br />

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afeTqeba eWvqveS daayena nangrevebSi<br />

aRmoCenili asafeTqebeli<br />

nivTierebebis _ trotilisa<br />

da heqsogenis kvalis arsebobam.<br />

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wlis 28 oqtombris Rames momxdar<br />

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adre win uZRoda afxazeTis<br />

sus-is ganyofilebis ufrosis,<br />

zviad lagvilavas mkvleloba.<br />

saeWvoa im garemoebis arsebobac,<br />

romlis mixedviTac afe-<br />

Tqebis dros SenobaSi mxolod<br />

gardacvlili imyofeboda. Senobis<br />

SesasvlelSi damontaJebuli<br />

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mis mier dafiqsirebuli SemTxvevis<br />

dRis amsaxveli videomasala,<br />

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moTxovnis miuxedavad, saqmeSi<br />

ver moxvda, Tumca ojaxma video<br />

da audio masala Tavad moipova,<br />

sadac saqmis axali garemoeba<br />

aRmoaCina. video-audio masalis<br />

nawili waSlilia, kerZod,<br />

kameris mier afeTqebamde 20 wu-<br />

TiT adre dafiqsirebuli Canaweri<br />

danawevrebulia or da samwuTian<br />

2 video failad, Canaweris<br />

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aRniSnuli safuZvlians xdis<br />

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videoCanawerebSi asaxuli<br />

pirovneba kavSirSia zviad lagvilavas<br />

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es pirovneba aris afxazeTis<br />

sus-is specdaniSnulebis<br />

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yofili ufrosi, onisime kvaSilava,<br />

metsaxelad „uzbeka”.<br />

aseve gamoZiebas dRemde ar<br />

aqvs amoRebuli satelefono<br />

saubrebis Canawerebi (detaluri).<br />

ojaxis wevrebi TavianTi SesaZleblobebiT<br />

cdiloben saqmisaTvis<br />

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moZiebas. gardacvalebamde<br />

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iyo misi afeTqeba da<br />

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rom meuRlesTn erTad Tbilisisken<br />

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ar mietovebina. mas saubari<br />

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iyo, rom es gaxldaT zviadis<br />

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es pirovneba da ra safrTxeze<br />

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2008 wlis 25 oqtombers<br />

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Si momxdari afeTqebis Sesaxeb<br />

dRevandeli prokuraturis sasurveli<br />

mowme yofiliyo.<br />

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lagvilavas iZulebuls xdidnen<br />

eTqva, TiTqos is monawile iyo<br />

zviad lagvilava<br />

vin sTxovda<br />

afxazeTis<br />

sus-is ufross<br />

rusuli gegmis<br />

ganxorcielebas<br />

da crumowmeobas?!<br />

qarTuli specsamsaxurebis mier<br />

sofel muJaveli oTar sabuluas<br />

sacxovrebeli ezos danaRvmisa<br />

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imJamindeli gamgebeli gia mebonia<br />

da ojaxis ufrosi oTar<br />

sabulua, xolo zviad lagvilava<br />

mZimed daiWra. miuxedavad<br />

dapirebebisa, aw gardacvlilma<br />

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uari ganacxada rusuli gegmis<br />

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rogorc wyaro ganmartavs,<br />

mas unda daekonkretebina, rom<br />

am scenaris dadgmis mizani gaxldaT<br />

momxdari afeTqebis rusebisaTvis<br />

dabraleba da maTi<br />

imijis Selaxva. cnobilia, rom<br />

afeTqebas win uZRoda oTar<br />

sabuluas saxlis dacxrilva, am<br />

faqtze sagamoZiebo moqmedebis<br />

Catarebisas moxda afeTqeba,<br />

ris Sedegadac is daWra. aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, dRevandeli prokuraturisTvis<br />

idealuri varianti<br />

iyo am SemTxvevis monawile<br />

piris crumowmed ayvana. mkvlelobis<br />

orive motiviT, ojaxis<br />

wevrTa moyvanili faqtebiTa da<br />

Seqmnili realuri suraTiT<br />

zviad lagvilavas erTsa da imave<br />

klanTan uwevda dapirispireba.<br />

zugdididan okupirebul<br />

afxazeTSi kondrabanda winaswar<br />

Sedgenili sqemis mixedviT<br />

gadaaqvT da gadmoaqvT, rasac<br />

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levan Sonia da misi<br />

klani akontrolebs, xolo misi<br />

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simamri, Tamaz TamazaSvili iyo.<br />

sarfiani SemosavlebisTvis Soniam<br />

pasuxismgebel Zalovan<br />

struqturebSi, romlebsac okupaciis<br />

xazebis kontroli evalebaT,<br />

xelmZRvanelebad saku-<br />

Tari deidaSvil-mamidaSvil-bi-<br />

ZaSvilebi daniSna, xolo fonebze,<br />

sadac kontrabanda gadadis,<br />

„SerCeul specrazmelTa<br />

jgufi” daayena. onisime kvaSilavas<br />

afxazeTis sus-is sammar-<br />

Tvelos ufrosobis dros swored<br />

am gziT dalagda kontrabanduli<br />

biznesi. Sonia-kvaSilavas<br />

orwliani Sexmatkbilebuli,<br />

kontrabanduli biznespartniorobis<br />

Semdeg onisime kvaSilava<br />

sxva Tanamdebobaze gadaiyvanes,<br />

xolo mis adgilas aw<br />

gardacvlili zviad lagvilava<br />

dainiSna. swored es gaxda motivi<br />

kvaSilava-lagvilavas dapirispirebisa.<br />

SoniasTvis isedac arasasurveli<br />

zviad lagvilava am Tanamdebobaze<br />

safrTxes warmoadgenda.<br />

samTviani muSaobis Sedegad<br />

gaSifruli Sonia-kvaSilavas<br />

kontrabanduli biznespartniorobis<br />

detalebi afeTqebamde<br />

sami dRiT adre gardacvlilma<br />

zviad lagvilavam Tbilis-<br />

Si Caitana da erT-erT yofil<br />

maRalCinosans gadasca, romelic<br />

TamazaSvil-RaribaSvilis<br />

klanTan iyo dapirispirebuli.<br />

2014 wlis 28 oqtombers, momxdari<br />

afeTqebis wina Rames,<br />

24 N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

zviadis samuSao kabinetSi Sedis<br />

pirovneba, romelic abazanaSi<br />

xelis naTuras _ „fanars”<br />

anTebs da mis Suqze daaxloebiT<br />

naxevari saaTi abazanaSi imyofeba,<br />

Semdeg ki sus-is Senobas<br />

tovebs. es faqti aRbeWdilia<br />

gare saTvalTvalo kameris<br />

gadaRebul videofirze.<br />

ojaxis mtkicebiT, zviadis mkvleloba<br />

abazanaSi igegmeboda,<br />

raTa SemTxveviTobasTan meti<br />

identuroba yofiliyo.<br />

pokuraturis mier gardacvalebis<br />

oficialur mizezad<br />

dasaxelebuli garemoebebis<br />

arc ojaxs da arc axloblebs<br />

ar sjera, miT umetes, maT eWvs<br />

amyarebs eqspertizis daskvnac,<br />

romelic winaaRmdegobaSi modis<br />

pokuraturis mier gacxadebul<br />

gardacvalebis mizezTan.<br />

zviad lagvilavas betonis tonaze<br />

meti simZimis filis dacemis<br />

Sedegad miRebuli dazianeba<br />

sxeulze ar etyoboda, _ dabeJili<br />

ar iyo. eqpertizis daskviniT,<br />

zviad lagvilavas cxedars<br />

aReniSneba sicocxlis<br />

droindeli dazianebebi. aseve<br />

eqspertizis daskvnaSi drois<br />

uzustobebia; saqmeSi ar devs<br />

arc erTi fotomasala, romelzec<br />

aRbeWdilia betonis filis<br />

qveS moyolili zviad lagvilavas<br />

cxedari.<br />

cira malania aseve ixsenebs,<br />

rom mas ori dRiT adre RamiT<br />

saxlSi moakiTxa levan Sonias<br />

klanis erT-erTma wevrma, susis<br />

maRalCinosanma g.n.-m. misi<br />

sakuTri manqanidan daaxloebiT<br />

naxevari saaTi xmamaRali saubari<br />

ismoda, rac dapirispirebis<br />

erT-erT deatalze mianiSnebda.<br />

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romelsac zviad lagvilava inaxavda.<br />

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inaxavda, mocemuli iyo<br />

Sonia-kvaSilavas kavSiri rus<br />

okupantebTan da maTi samxedro<br />

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sadac is afeTqebiT daemuqra,<br />

Tumca incidenti megobrebis<br />

CareviT maleve aRmoifxvra.<br />

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es iyo samsaxuris Tanxa, romelic,<br />

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saubari, romelic Tveebis mixedviT<br />

unda gaeweraT. lagvilavas<br />

winaswar or Tveze gawerili<br />

uwyisi daxvda xelmosawerad,<br />

razedac is uars acxadebda.<br />

ojaxisa da dazvervis maRal-<br />

Cinosnis mier mowodebuli informacia,<br />

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faqtebiT aris gamyarebuli<br />

da gamoZiebisTvis mniSvnelovania,<br />

Tumca ojaxi prokuraturas<br />

ar endoba da acxadebs,<br />

rom es saqme ase burusiT<br />

moculi iqneba xelisuflebis<br />

Secvlamde. sazogadoebaSi kvlav<br />

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meriaSi, bolo periodSi, sakmaod<br />

gaurkveveli saxis gadawyvetilebebi<br />

miiRes. es exeba wina periodSi<br />

gacemuli administraciuli aqtebis,<br />

moqalaqebis mimarT administraciuli<br />

dapirebebiT micemuli<br />

uflebebis ugulebelyofas. ker-<br />

Zod, gaica mSeneblobis nebarTvebi,<br />

romelic Semdeg gauqmda. iyo<br />

iseTi SemTxvevebi, rom meriis saauqciono<br />

komisiam miwis nakveTebi<br />

gaitana, kerZod, 200 kv.m. miwis nakveTi<br />

gaitana im pirobiT, rom<br />

SemZens 2 wlis manZilze unda ae-<br />

Senebina komerciuli obieqti.<br />

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, am pirobis<br />

darRvevidan gamomdinare, kvlav<br />

CamoerTmeoda sakuTrebis ufleba<br />

da es miwis nakveTebi saxelmwifos<br />

daubrundeboda. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom moqalaqeebma pirnaTlad Seasrules<br />

valdebulebebi, auqcionis<br />

pirobebiT Sesabamisi Tanxa gadaixades,<br />

uZravi qoneba kerZo<br />

sakuTrebaSi dairegistrires im<br />

valdebulebiT, rom 2 wlis man-<br />

Zilze maT unda aeSenebinaT komerciuli<br />

obieqtebi, meriam Tavis<br />

pirobebi ar Seasrula.<br />

_ riT gamoixateba pirobebis<br />

Seusrulebloba?<br />

_ moqalaqem 2012 wlis 25 maiss<br />

auqcionze SeZenili qoneba im<br />

pirobiT, rom am miwis nakveTze<br />

komerciuli obieqti unda aeSenebina,<br />

mSeneblobis nebarTvis misaRebad<br />

rusTavis merias 2013 wels<br />

mimarTa. mas jer kidev erTi weli<br />

hqonda darCenili imisTvis, rom<br />

mSenebloba SeZenili qonebis xelSekrulebis<br />

valdebulebidan gamomidnare<br />

ganexorcielebina. Semdgom<br />

moxda ise, rom meriam mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTva ukve aRar misca.<br />

e. i. moqalaqem miwis nakveTi im<br />

pirobiT da valdebulebiT SeiZina,<br />

rom masze Senoba-nageboba ae-<br />

Senebina. Semdgom, rodesac SeiZina<br />

da am miwis nakveTze Tanxa gadaixada,<br />

meria uars ambobs msgavsi tipis<br />

nakveTze mSeneblobis ganxorcielebaze.<br />

auqcionze gayiduli<br />

iyo 3 miwis nakveTi da Semsyidvelebi<br />

gaxlavT eliaSvili, nozaZe da<br />

bluaSvili. bluaSvilma miwa gigaurze<br />

gayida, romlis interesebsac<br />

vicav. am yvela mewarmes erTi<br />

da igive problema aqvs. arc erTi<br />

maTganis moTxovna, rom ganexorcielebinaT<br />

mSenebloba am miwis<br />

nakveTze, meriam ar daakmayofila<br />

da erTi mizezi, rac daasaxeles,<br />

iyo qalaqis iersaxis SenarCunebis<br />

mizniT, mimdebare korpusebisa da<br />

sazogadoebrivi interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />

TiTqos mizanSeuwoneli<br />

iyo rusTavSi am teritoriaze<br />

rame tipis mSenebloba. ismis<br />

kiTxvebi, _ ratom ar Seiswavla meriam<br />

winaswar es sakiTxebi? ratom<br />

gaitana auqcionze, an Tu gaitana<br />

da Seiswavla, ratom gadaTqva misi<br />

pirobebi? da, saerTodac, rad undaT<br />

am adamianebs es miwis nakveTebi,<br />

Tuki masze raime mSenebloba<br />

ar ganaxorcieles da ar isargebles<br />

maT sakuTrebaSi arsebuli<br />

qonebiT?! warmoidgineT, mesakuTreebi<br />

am qonebiT iseve sargebloben,<br />

rogorc me da Tqven, miwis<br />

nakveTebi Tavisufal mdgomareobaSia,<br />

arc SemoRobilia, arc Senoba-nagebobaa,<br />

sargebloben mesame<br />

pirebi da am adgils gzad<br />

iyeneben. e. i. mesaku-<br />

Treebs am miwebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT aranairi<br />

uflebebi aRar gaaCniaT.<br />

meriis es mokle<br />

pasuxi, rom uars<br />

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rusTavis meriis<br />

mier motyuebuli<br />

moqalaqeebi da<br />

zarali, romlis<br />

daTvlac<br />

SeuZlebelia!<br />

daviT jiqia<br />

ambobs mSeneblobaze, vfiqrob,<br />

sruliad dausabuTebelia. saqme is<br />

aris, rom im periodSi, rodesac es<br />

mewarmeebi merias mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvis misaRebad mimarTavdnen,<br />

mimdebare teritoriaze mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTva imgvarad gaica, rom<br />

am mewarmeTa interesebi ar gaiTvaliswina.<br />

e. i. am tipis miwaze raime<br />

mSeneblobis ganxorcieleba xels<br />

SeuSlis im mewarmeebs, romelTac<br />

meriam adre misca mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTva da komerciuli obieqtebi<br />

aaSenes. Cvens SemTxvevaSi ori<br />

moqalaqea, romelsac mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze komerciuli obieqti<br />

aqvs aSenebuli, Tumca Cemi marwmuneblis<br />

kuTvnil miwasTan araviTar<br />

SemxeblobaSi ar aris, magram, Tu<br />

batoni gigauri am miwis nakveTze<br />

raime tipis komerciul obieqts<br />

aaSenebs, es Camoefareba maT kuTvnil<br />

obieqtebs da aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

merias ar surs, rom im<br />

pirebisgan miiRos pretenziebi,<br />

romelTac soliduri xarjebi<br />

gaiRes da komerciuli obieqtebi<br />

aaSenes. am faqtebma moqalaqeebSi<br />

didi dapirispireba gamoiwvia. batonma<br />

gigaurma meriidan mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvis gacemaze pirveli<br />

uari 2013 wels miiRo. sasamarTloSi<br />

gavasaCivreT da meriis uari<br />

mSeneblobis nebarTvis gacemis<br />

Taobaze baTilad cno. saqme meriaSi<br />

im valdebulebiT daabruna,<br />

rom kargad ganexilaT, SeeswavlaT<br />

da gadawyvetileba ise mieRoT.<br />

2015 wels es saqme kvlav dabrunda<br />

rusTavis meriaSi, kvlav daiwyo<br />

administraciuli warmoeba da<br />

raoden gasakviric ar unda iyos,<br />

am moTxovnis dakmayofilebaze<br />

kidev uari gviTxra. mizezi igivea<br />

da absoluturad ar aris SesabamisobaSi<br />

im valdebulebebTan,<br />

romelic, Tavis droze, meriam gasca.<br />

_ ratom iqceva meria ase?<br />

_ meria ver acnobierebs pasuxismgeblobas<br />

mis mier gacemuli<br />

aqtebis mimarT. is moqalaqeebs<br />

dahpirda, Tu mewarme pirobebs Seasrulebda,<br />

valdebuli iyvnen, xeli<br />

SeewyoT da moqalaqes is valdebulebebi<br />

Seesrulebina, rac meriam<br />

auqcionis pirobebSi Caudo. kazusia,<br />

rodesac moqalaqes, erTi<br />

mxriv, avaldebuleb, rom aaSenos<br />

da meore mxriv, ar aZlev mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvas. rogor ggoniaT, ra<br />

unda moxdes, Tuki ar aaSenebs da<br />

im pirobas daarRvevs Cemi marwmunebeli,<br />

rac auqcionis aqtSi iyo<br />

miTiTebuli? am SemTxvevaSi administraciul<br />

organos sruli uflebebi<br />

eqneba, gaauqmos auqcionis<br />

Sedegebi da saxelmwifos qoneba<br />

ise daubrunos. am moqalaqeebis<br />

braleuloba, faqtobrivad, araferSia.<br />

davis sagani is ki ar gaxda,<br />

rom konkretuli samSeneblo obieqti<br />

ar moswonda merias, aramed<br />

is, rom am teritoriaze saerTod<br />

ar unda aSenebulyo. saocaria:<br />

erTi _ meria ar asrulebs pirobas!<br />

meorec _ ar asrulebs sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebas!<br />

sasamarTlom baTilad<br />

cno maT mier gamocemuli<br />

aqti mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvis uaris Sesaxeb.<br />

sasamarTlo ver<br />

gascemda mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvas da amitom merias daavala,<br />

rom es sakiTxi ganexila da<br />

Sesabamisi aqtebi gaeca. meriam kvlav<br />

daiwyo administraciuli warmoeba<br />

da igive motivaciiT gasca<br />

uari moqalaqeze. rusTavis meria<br />

ramdenime wreze trialebs, moqalaqeebs<br />

atyuebs. sasamarTloSi<br />

iCivleben, moigeben procesebs,<br />

dabrundeba meriaSi gansaxilvelad<br />

da igive gadawyvetilebebs iReben.<br />

es aris sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

upativcemuloba. merias miaCnia,<br />

rom yvelaze maRla mdgomi<br />

organoa da sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas<br />

misTvis aranairi mniSvneloba<br />

ar aqvs. administraciuli<br />

aqti uaris Taobaze sasamarTloSi<br />

kvlav gavasaCivreT, kvlav mimdinareobs<br />

procesebi, Tumca ismis<br />

kiTxva, _ procesi romc movigoT<br />

(da, didi albaTobiT, movigebT, vinaidan<br />

Cemi mxare keTilsindisieri<br />

SemZenia, mas ar daurRvevia aranairi<br />

piroba, rac administraciulma<br />

organom daudo, amdenad, sasamarTlom<br />

es unda gaiTvaliswinos),<br />

imis saSiSroebaa, rom meria isev ar<br />

aRasrulebs sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas<br />

da kvlav uars ityvis<br />

mSeneblobis nebarTvis gacemaze.<br />

amdenad, moqalaqeebs ara marto<br />

ise azaralebs, rom konkretuli<br />

sazRauri gadaixadon miwis SeZena-<br />

Si, winaswar atyuebs, TiTqos, is<br />

SesaZleblobas miscems, am miwis nakveTze<br />

rame saxis komerciuli<br />

obieqti aaSenos. sxva SemTxvevaSi,<br />

vin SeiZens miwis nakveTs, Tu misi<br />

gamoyenebis SesaZlebloba ar eqneba?!<br />

moqalaqeebs atyueben da Semdeg<br />

am saqcielidan gamomdinare,<br />

pasuxsac ar ageben, vinaidan is aris<br />

arCeviTi organo da ar hyavs zedamxedveli<br />

piri, romelic mis moqmedebebs<br />

gaakontrolebs. amitom<br />

mers aqvs erTi pozicia _ sadac<br />

gindaT, iq iCivleT! moqalaqe administraciul<br />

aqts gaasaCivrebs<br />

da sasamarTlos moigebs, is ki<br />

mainc ar gascems Sesabamis aqtebs<br />

da arc pasuxs agebs. dava dResac<br />

grZeldeba, romelic 2013 wels<br />

daiwyo da rogorc zemoT mogaxseneT,<br />

sasamarTloSi sami intanciis<br />

gavlis Semdeg meore wreze<br />

mivdivarT. igive qmedeba kerZo<br />

pirs rom ganexorcielebina, sisxlis<br />

samarTlebriv pasuxisgebaSi<br />

miecemoda. meriis qmdebaSi dana-<br />

Saulis niSnebi ikveTeba. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, maT kidev erTi pasuxi aqvT,<br />

_ Tu meriis mier gacemuli aqtiT<br />

vinme dazaraldeba, isini materialurad<br />

ageben pasuxs moqalaqeebis<br />

winaSe. visi TanxebiT cdilobs<br />

meria am zianis anazRaurebas?! moqalaqeebis<br />

mier gadaxdili gadasaxadebiT<br />

Sedgenili biujetidan<br />

undaT aanazRauros is ziani, romelic<br />

maTi mcdari gadawyvetilebiT<br />

miadga moqalaqeebs?! ra<br />

daiTvlis im zians, romelsac moqalaqeebi<br />

wlebis manZilze ganicdian<br />

da saerTod, aanazRaurebs<br />

zians, im dros, roca isic ki ar<br />

aanazRaura, rac werilobiT gansazRvrul<br />

pirobaSi iyo Cadebuli?!<br />

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Tbilisis saxelmwifo univer-<br />

zaza svanaZe<br />

sitetSi ganviTarebuli procese-<br />

579 00 19 99<br />

bi yovelTvis aisaxeboda Cveni<br />

qveynis sazogadoebriv Tu politikur<br />

cxovrebaze. ama wlis aprilis dasawyisSi TeseuSi situacia<br />

imdenad ukontrolo gaxda, rom met-naklebad Cawynarebu-<br />

li viTarebis Semdgom reqtorma dakavebuli Tanamdeboba mainc<br />

datova. amis miuxedavad, calkeul jgufebs Soris situacia<br />

kvlavac daZabuli rCeba... risTvis ibrZvian da ras ver iyofen<br />

codnis taZarSi? ra bataliebia axalgazrdebs Soris? iSleba<br />

Tu ara cnobili studenturi moZraoba „auditoria 115"?<br />

aucilebeli ganmarteba: „qronika+”-s<br />

daukavSirda moqalaqe, romelmac<br />

Cvengan anonimurobis garantia<br />

iTxova, ris Semdegac studenturi<br />

moZraoba „auditoria 115"-is<br />

SigniT arsebul mwvave dapirispirebaze<br />

informacia mogvawoda.<br />

misi mtkicebiT, „auditoriis” gafarToebuli<br />

Sexvedrisas sxvadasxva<br />

jgufi erTmaneTs daupirispirda:<br />

„sandro cagareli brals<br />

sdebda auditoriis wevrebs _ giorgi<br />

arobeliZesa da naTia qarCilaZes<br />

TviTmmarTvelobasTan farul<br />

komunikaciaSi da moZraobis<br />

principebis RalatSi. am orma pirovnebam<br />

daadastura aseTi Sexvedrebis<br />

Sesaxeb, Tumca cagarelsa<br />

da erT jgufs kontbraldebad<br />

wauyenes, rom isini farulad TanamSromlobdnen<br />

xelisuflebasTan<br />

da ganaTlebis saministrosTan.<br />

aRniSnul Sexvedraze ar imyofeboda<br />

levan lorTqifaniZe, samagierod<br />

erTmaneTis mimarT agresiiT<br />

gamoirCeodnen sandro cagareli<br />

da irakli kupraZe. aseT viTareba-<br />

Si „auditoria” araerTma wevrma<br />

datova, rasac didi xmauri mohyva.<br />

Sexvedraze mravlad iyo faruli<br />

Canawerebis, piradi saubrebisa da<br />

e. w. sqrinSotebis warmodgena,<br />

rogorc kompromatebis”.<br />

„qronika+” viTarebaSi garkve-<br />

vas Seecada da pirvelad cnobil<br />

aqtivists _ sandro cagarels<br />

daukavSirda:<br />

_ 2011 wels, TanamoazreebTan<br />

erTad, „laboratoria 1918" davafuZne.<br />

am organizaciaSi, ZiriTadad,<br />

Teseus studentebi viyaviT gaer-<br />

Tianebuli. Tavdapirvelad aqtiurad<br />

vupirispirdebodiT TviTmmarTvelobas,<br />

Tumca maleve gadavwyviteT,<br />

rom „nacionalebis” mmarTvelobis<br />

winaaRmdegac gagvela-<br />

Sqra. erT-erTi pirvelebi viyaviT,<br />

romlebmac 26 maisis diliTve davgmeT<br />

im saSineli darbevis Sedegebi,<br />

aseve vaprotestebdiT Zalovani<br />

uwyebebis Zaladobis faqtebs, gavmarTeT<br />

aqcia ioseb qimeriZis tragikulad<br />

daRupvis Taobaze, romelic<br />

xaSuris policiis SenobaSi<br />

moxda. Cven uSualod SemTxvevis<br />

adgilebze gavdiodiT da xmamaRla<br />

vsaubrobdiT xelisuflebis Secdomebze<br />

_ 2012 wlamdec da Semdegac.<br />

_ ramdenad koordinebulad<br />

moqmedebdiT opoziciaSi myof<br />

koaliciasTan? da ra kavSirebi<br />

gaqvT „qarTul ocnebasTan”<br />

dRes?<br />

_ 2012 wlis seqtemberSi, mas<br />

Semdeg, rac cixis cnobili kadrebi<br />

gamoqveynda, Cveni organizacia<br />

studenturi protestis avangard-<br />

Si Cadga. samwuxarod, zogierTi<br />

Tanatolisgan dRemde mesmis upasuxismgeblo<br />

gancxadebebi, TiTqosda<br />

am aqciebSi maTi wvlili didi<br />

iyo, zogi organizatorobas ibralebs,<br />

zogic axalgazrdebis didi<br />

masis gamoyvanas, arada, yvela dagidasturebT,<br />

rom am aqciebSi Cveni<br />

wvlili sakmaod didi iyo. dRes<br />

ukve Tanamdebobebze wamoskupebuli<br />

pirebi studentur protests<br />

saTavisod iweren. rac Seexeba<br />

kiTxvaze konkretul pasuxs: erTaderTi<br />

komunikacia, rac im period-<br />

Si Sedga Cemsa da „ocnebas” Soris,<br />

es iyo axalgazrdulTan koordinacia,<br />

kerZod _ cotne zurabian-<br />

Tan: koncertze romlis devizi iyo<br />

„sistema unda daingres” Cven viqiraveT<br />

aparatura, Tumca bolo<br />

wuTs aparaturis mflobelebma am<br />

RonisZiebis farglebSi Cveni momsaxureba<br />

gadaifiqres da teqnikis<br />

gareSe davrCiT, ris gamoc „jidiess”<br />

TxovniT mivmarTeT da maT<br />

es teqnika gamogviyves. sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />

vacxadeb: piradad<br />

me aranairi finansuri valdebulebebi<br />

ar mqonia arc opoziciaSi<br />

myof `meocnebeebTan” da arc axla.<br />

_ ras aprotestebdiT mas mere,<br />

rac xelisuflebis saTaveSi iva-<br />

niSvilis gundi movida?<br />

_ Cveni ideologiidan gamomdinare,<br />

ZiriTad aqcents vakeTebdiT<br />

mSromelTa uflebebze da<br />

socialur problemebze. me var<br />

memarcxene social-demokratiuli<br />

ideebis matarebeli, rogorc<br />

mTlianad „laboratoria 1918".<br />

Cvens gundSi zogierTi radikali<br />

memarcxenec ki iyo. 2010 wlidan<br />

var social-demokratiuli partiis<br />

aqtiuri mxardamWeri.<br />

_ anu intervius vwerT so-<br />

cial-demokratebis wevrTan?<br />

_ ara mxolod, Tumca me ar var<br />

maRalCinosani, ar var saxelmwifo<br />

uwyebis warmomadgeneli da arc<br />

raime mimarTuleba mabaria partia-<br />

Si. sxvebisgan gansxvavebiT Cum-Cumad<br />

ar vstumrob partiebs konspiraciul<br />

formatSi. Cemi studenturi<br />

aqtivobebi, _ „laboratoriisa”<br />

Tu „auditoria 115"-is farglebSi,<br />

yovelTvis gamijnuli<br />

mqonda partiuli davalebebisgan.<br />

_ saprotesto aqciebze Tqven<br />

araerTxel daukavebixarT samar-<br />

Taldamcvelebs. ratom gapatim-<br />

rebdnen?<br />

_ pirvelad damakaves 2012 wlis<br />

24 seqtembers universitetis mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze; meored _<br />

2013 wlis pirvel maiss.<br />

_ Tqveni Tanamoazreebi agre-<br />

siulad iqceodnen, kerZo obi-<br />

eqtebs sxvadasxva Sinaarsis saprotesto<br />

teqstebs awerdnen, Se-<br />

nobebis fasadebze varskvlavebs<br />

axatavdiT. Tqveni qmedeba xelisu-<br />

flebam xulignobad Seafasa...<br />

_ radikaluri protesti mTel<br />

ganviTarebul samyaroSi miRebuli<br />

formaa, Cven sanagve urnebi ar<br />

gadagvitrialebia da qalaqi cecxlis<br />

alSi ar gagvixvevia.<br />

_ rogor ganviTarda movlenebi<br />

pirveli maisis xmauriani aqci-<br />

is Semdeg?<br />

_ 2013 wlis pirveli maisis Semdeg<br />

„laboratoria 1918" maleve<br />

daiSala. Cven maSin samomavlo gegmebze<br />

ver CamovyalibdiT da saganmanaTleblo<br />

proeqtebze gadaverTeT,<br />

vawyobdiT leqciebs da<br />

konferenciebs. me erT-erTi pirveli<br />

var, romelmac lado papavas<br />

mmarTveloba gavaproteste, es iyo<br />

iqamde, sanam „auditoria 115"<br />

iarsebebda.<br />

_ rogor da ra mizniT Seiqmna<br />

es organizacia?<br />

_ 2016 wlis 5 marts „kavkasiur<br />

saxlSi” ramdenime Tanatols vTxove,<br />

rom Semxvedrodnen, maT<br />

Soris, levan lorTqifaniZes, irakli<br />

kupraZes, Tornike CivaZes da<br />

sxva aqtiur studentebs. im droisTvis<br />

mwvaved idga sakiTxi kancleris<br />

arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT.<br />

Cven kritikuli damokidebuleba<br />

gvqonda papavas mmarTvelobis<br />

stilTan da iq miviReT gadawyvetileba,<br />

organizebuli protesti<br />

dagvewyo, vinaidan mowinaaRmdege<br />

mxare mZlavr sainformacio, finansur<br />

da sxva resursebs flobda.<br />

_ wlevandel gazafxuls Tqveni<br />

organizaciis mier gamarTul-<br />

ma aqciebma univeristets gareTac<br />

hpova gamoZaxili, xmauriani<br />

aqciebis Semdeg rogor Seafaseb-<br />

diT Tqvensave poziciebs, _ mizans<br />

miaRwieT?<br />

_ nawilobriv mivaRwieT, Temis<br />

mimarT sazogadoebaSi interesi<br />

gavaCineT. Cveni poziciebiT araerT<br />

saxelmwifo uwyebaSi dainteresdnen.<br />

reqtori gadadga.<br />

_ kidev erTxel rom daafiqsiroT:<br />

Teseus mmarTvel organoebSi<br />

vis da ratom upirispird-<br />

ebodiT vladimer papavas garda?<br />

_ vupirispirdebodiT administraciis<br />

xelmZRvanelobas da studentur<br />

TviTmmarTvelobas, romelic<br />

privilegirebul klasad Camoyalibda:<br />

studentebisTvis gamoyofil<br />

TanxebTan wvdoma hqondaT<br />

mxolod am organizaciis wevrebs,<br />

isini TviTneburad gankargavdnen<br />

Tanxebs, studentebis didi nawilisTvis<br />

naklebad saintereso Temebze<br />

atarebdnen RonisZiebebs. maT<br />

ar hqondaT im masStabis mxardaWera,<br />

ra poziciebsac ikavebdnen saswavlebelSi.<br />

isini waxalisebuli<br />

iyvnen universitetis SigniT arsebuli<br />

mmarTveli elitis mier.<br />

TviTmmarTvelobis prezidenti<br />

Salva sabauri, romelic erTi Tvis<br />

winaT vadis amowurvis Semdeg gadadga,<br />

koba nayofias Stabis wevri<br />

iyo, risi fotomasalac arsebobs.<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi raRac tradiciad<br />

Camoyalibda, _ TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

yofili Sefebi mTavrobis<br />

dasayrdenebi iyvnen, isini Teseudan<br />

pirdapir saministroebSi inacvlebdnen<br />

maRal poziciebze _ es<br />

praqtika iyo, anu maT universitetSi<br />

muSaoba imisTvis ki ar sWirdebodaT,<br />

rom TeseuSi rame gaekeTebinaT,<br />

aramed imisTvis, rom<br />

TavianTi karieristuli gegmebi<br />

ganexorcielebinaT.<br />

_ am tipis braldebebi SeiZleba<br />

Tqvenc Semogitrialon da Jor-<br />

JolianTan kavSirebi gagaxsenon...<br />

_ me ar vikaveb oficialur Tanamdebobas<br />

TeseuSi da arc partia-<br />

Si. simpaTiebi maqvs im politikuri<br />

jgufis mimarT, romelic gansxvavdeba<br />

damnaSave „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobisgan”. universitetSi odeerebis<br />

arsebobaze xmamaRla ganvacxade,<br />

ris Semdegac erT-erTma<br />

maTganma, iva kavsaZem, Tanamdeboba<br />

datova, meore _ irakli xarjevaniZe<br />

_ igive „galCi”, kvlav inar-<br />

Cunebs Tanamdebobas.<br />

_ ra xdeba dRes „auditoria<br />

115"-is Tavs?<br />

_ gulwrfelad getyviT: am<br />

etapze aRniSnul Temaze saubari<br />

namdvilad ar msurda. ar ganvekuTvnebi<br />

im adamianTa kategorias,<br />

romlebic piradi wyenebiT xelmZ-<br />

Rvaneloben da karis gamojaxunebis<br />

Semdeg yofil Tanagundelebs<br />

afurTxeben; mediis warmomadgenlebs<br />

ki, vinaidan Tqven garkveuli<br />

informacia gaqvT da interviuze<br />

dagTanxmdiT, ver mogatyuebT.<br />

dRes „auditoria 115" ramdenime<br />

nawilad daiSala: iq aris „mwvane<br />

muSti”, sxva organizaciebi, yvelas<br />

Tavisi interesi amoZravebs, ris<br />

gamoc „auditoria” davtove, Tumca<br />

es erTeuli SemTxveva ar aris<br />

_ organizacia daSlis pirasaa.<br />

_ ufro konkretulad rom<br />

gviTxraT, „auditoria 115" daiS-<br />

ala Tu gaiSala?<br />

_ veWvob, mcire jgufi kvlav<br />

gamoiyenebs „auditoriis” saxels,<br />

28<br />

`TviTmmarTvelobis prezidenti Salva<br />

sabauri, romelic erTi Tvis winaT vadis<br />

amowurvis Semdeg gadadga, koba nayofias<br />

Stabis wevri iyo, risi fotomasalac<br />

arsebobs. wlebis ganmavlobaSi raRac<br />

tradiciad Camoyalibda, - TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

yofili Sefebi mTavrobis dasayrdenebi iyvnen,<br />

isini Teseudan pirdapir saministroebSi<br />

inacvlebdnen maRal poziciebze - es praqtika<br />

iyo, anu maT universitetSi muSaoba imisTvis<br />

ki ar sWirdebodaT, rom TeseuSi rame<br />

gaekeTebinaT, aramed imisTvis, rom TavianTi<br />

karieristuli gegmebi ganexorcielebinaT~<br />

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moZraoba `auditoria 115~?<br />

Tumca es im erTobas, ideas aRar<br />

warmoadgens, rac dasawyisSi yvelas<br />

erTad gvqonda deklarirebuli.<br />

_ Cvenma wyarom gviTxra, rom<br />

sandro cagareli brals sdebda<br />

auditoriis wevrebs giorgi aro-<br />

beliZesa da mis megobrebs TviT-<br />

mmarTvelobasTan farul komuni-<br />

kaciaSio... Tavis mxriv, maTac hqoniaT<br />

pretenziebi TqvenTan mima-<br />

rTebiT...<br />

_ adamianebi, romlebic Cveni<br />

gundis wevrebi megona, mowinaaRmdege<br />

banakTan farul komunikacia-<br />

Si yofilan. ratom Sexvdnen malulad<br />

maT? informaciebi gacvales?<br />

aRmoCnda, rom giorgi arobeliZe,<br />

ana kamlaZe da sxvebi farulad<br />

xvdebodnen im adamians, romelTanac<br />

dapirispirebuli viyaviT.<br />

CemTvis gaugebaria, risTvis Sei-<br />

Zleba Sedges or aseT dapirispirebul<br />

mxares Soris Sexvedra? albaT,<br />

piradi poziciebi gaimyares.<br />

_ anu Tanagundelebi RalatSi<br />

amxileT?<br />

_ Tavidan am Temis wamowevas ar<br />

vapirebdi, ar mindoda, Cveni erToba<br />

da miznebi dagvezianebina, magram<br />

Semdeg is jgufi, romelic<br />

ukve kuluarulad mipirispirdeboda,<br />

Cems Sav piarze gadavida,<br />

xanac WorebiT, xanac faruli<br />

saubrebiT. isini araerT adamians<br />

aqezebdnen Cem winaaRmdeg. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, TviTmmarTvelobasa da „auditoria<br />

115"-is wevrebs Soris arsebuli<br />

faruli Sexvedrebi Cemgan<br />

damoukideblad gasajarovda, ukve<br />

imdeni adamiani gaaRizianes, rom<br />

sxvebmac gadawyvites maT Secdomebze<br />

saubari. bunebrivia, am yvelafris<br />

Semdeg maT pasuxi movTxove<br />

aseTi saqcielis gamo.<br />

_ urTierToba levan lorTqi-<br />

faniZesTanac dageZabaT? Tu am<br />

informacias daadasturebT, Seg-<br />

iZliaT gviTxraT, ris gamo moxda<br />

ganxeTqileba Tqven Soris?<br />

_ me ar minda, es viTareba pirovnuli<br />

konklaobis doneze daviyvano<br />

da ideologiur SeuTavseblobas<br />

pirovnuli Wrili mivce,<br />

Tumca faqti faqtad rCeba: auditoriis<br />

garkveuli nawili gulwrfeli<br />

namdvilad ar aRmoCnda sakuTar<br />

principebTan.<br />

_ imave wyaros mtkicebiT, le-<br />

van lorTqifaniZe, Turme, brals<br />

gdebT JorJolianTan kavSirebSi,<br />

rogor upasuxeT am braldebas?<br />

_ aq sakiTxi erTi pirovnebis,<br />

lorTqifaniZis doneze ar dgas,<br />

Tumca, Cemda samwuxarod, manac<br />

gamoiSvira TiTi Cemi misamarTiT<br />

da sakmaod usafuZvlod. arasdros<br />

damimalavs JorJolianTan urTierToba<br />

da es aqac aRvniSne, man<br />

brali damdo kolaboraciaSi.<br />

rogor SeiZleba, samTavrobo wreebTan<br />

viyo Sekruli, Tuki pirvelma<br />

gavaproteste sus-is Careva universitetSi?<br />

ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis<br />

saministro mraval tyuilSi<br />

vamxile, anu xelisufleba Tu<br />

mmarTavs, amas ratom akeTebs, maTive<br />

Secdomebi rom warmovaCino?!<br />

_ amdeni adamiani ase organi-<br />

zebulad gwamebT cils?<br />

_ verc erTxel movismine<br />

konkretuli faqti, Tu rodis<br />

Seviyvane „auditoria 115" SecdomaSi.<br />

axla papava aRar aris reqtori,<br />

romlis mxardamWeric, Riad<br />

Tu farulad, lorTqifaniZis<br />

jgufi iyo. miuxedavad maTi axlo<br />

urTierTobisa yofil reqtorTan,<br />

ar minda davuSva, rom maT daijeres<br />

im werilis Sinaarsi, sadac<br />

papava irakli kupraZes da levan<br />

lorTqifaniZes swerda, rom me<br />

sus-is agenti viyavi da Cemi ndoba<br />

ar SeiZleboda...<br />

_ Tu reqtors da lorTqi-<br />

faniZes saidumlo mimowerebi<br />

hqondaT, maSin ratom yviroda<br />

TeseuSi levan lorTqifaniZe pa-<br />

pavas winaaRmdeg?<br />

_ sajarod SedarebiT radikalur<br />

poziciebs afiqsirebdnen, Tumca<br />

realoba sxva iyo. sanam „auditoria”<br />

Seiqmneboda, manac icoda<br />

Cemi urTierTobebis Sesaxeb papavasTan,<br />

mec vicodi misi damokidebulebebi<br />

reqtoris mimarT,<br />

Tumca mjeroda, rom ufro gulwrfelebi<br />

iqnebodnen. ar mCvevia<br />

pirdapir TiTis gaSvera usafuZvlod,<br />

ar mCvevia cilismwamebluri<br />

teqstebi, Sesabamisad, eWvis doneze<br />

vityvi: aSkaraa, rom levan lorTqifaniZes<br />

kavSiri aqvs eqspert<br />

gia xuxaSvilTan. am or adamians<br />

2011 wlidan aqvs urTierToba da<br />

Tu Cemi kavSirebi eWvebs aCens vinmesTvis,<br />

maSin legitimuria, eWvi<br />

gaCndes mis kavSirebzec. batoni gia<br />

xuxaSvili aris prezidentis, paata<br />

burWulaZis, alasaniasa da sxva<br />

jgufebis orbitaze.<br />

_ am yvelafris Semdeg, albaT,<br />

Tqvens kavSirebzec alaparakd-<br />

nen...<br />

_ ki, damiyares aseTi Worebi,<br />

rom TiTqos giga bokerias marTuli<br />

var. pirdapir getyviT, aseTi<br />

mdare Worebi ioseb gogaSvilisa<br />

da kampaniis gavrcelebulia, maT<br />

logikurTan axlos mdgari dezinformaciebis<br />

SeTxzvac ar SeuZliaT,<br />

gavrcelebis meTodebze rom<br />

araferi vTqvaT.<br />

_ ras apirebT?<br />

_ me „auditoriis” wevrebs movuwode,<br />

rom TavianTi jgufebi<br />

Seqmnan da aqtivobebi gaagrZelon.<br />

aucilebelia, saxelmwifo vaiZuloT,<br />

Zireuli reformebi gaataros<br />

saganmanaTleblo sistemaSi.<br />

piradi garCevebis dro aRaraa.<br />

_ samomavlod iTanamSromlebT<br />

lorTqifaniZesTan, an amJamad<br />

dapirispirebul sxva jgufebTan?<br />

_ im Worebisa da braldebebis<br />

Semdeg SeuZlebelia Zveleburad<br />

TanamSromloba, Tumca im miznebisken,<br />

sadac SeiZleba gadavikveToT<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

me da levani, saqmes pirad wyenebs<br />

ar gadavayoleb.<br />

„qronika+” levan lorTqi-<br />

faniZes daukavSirda:<br />

_ levan, ra dapirispireba mox-<br />

da Tqvensa da sandro cagarels<br />

Soris?<br />

_ Cven sxvadasxva azrze vdgavarT.<br />

igi am xelisuflebis momxre<br />

partiis wevria, me ki opoziciurad<br />

ganwyobili upartio aqtivisti<br />

var. Sesabamisad, sxvadasxva azri<br />

gvaqvs rig sakiTxebze. aravis<br />

araferSi ar vadanaSauleb.<br />

_ iyo Tu ara „audirotia 115"-<br />

Si e. w. klanuri dapirispireba?<br />

sandro cagarelTan ar gikamaTi-<br />

aT?<br />

_ ar vici, me masTan arc erT<br />

Temaze ar miCxubia, amas winaT Cemi<br />

bebiis gasvenebaSic iyo... mec, sandrosac<br />

da aTobiT sxva adamiansac<br />

gansxvavebuli azrebi gvaqvs da xSirad<br />

vkamaTobT xolme auditoria-<br />

Si. am wuTasac uamravi Sida jgufia,<br />

zogi memarcxene, zogi memarjvene,<br />

zogi iliauneli, zogi Tesueli,<br />

zogi socialuri mecnierebidan,<br />

maT Soris mwvave diskusia Cveuli<br />

formaa. „auditoria 115" Zalian<br />

hgavs did saTaTbiros, sadac yvela<br />

jgufia warmodgenili.<br />

_ cagareli gamoTqvams<br />

varauds, rom Tqven gia xuxaSvi-<br />

lis mier imarTebiT...<br />

_ gia xuxaSvils vicnob, pativs<br />

vcem, rogorc saintereso adamians.<br />

masTan molaparakebebs aranair sakiTxTan<br />

ar vawarmoeb da arc maxsovs,<br />

bolos rodis vnaxe.<br />

_ amJamad sad xedavT yvelaze<br />

did problemas TeseuSi? da aqve,<br />

_ vladimer papavas gadadgomis<br />

Semdeg ra procesebi viTardeba<br />

universitetSi?<br />

_ Tsu uamravi problemis winaSe<br />

dgas. faqtobrivad, araferi Secvlila,<br />

mxolod revanSisgan davicaviT<br />

Tsu, isic droebiT! dRes<br />

umTavresi sakiTxia, kanonSi umaRlesi<br />

ganaTlebis Sesaxeb 45-e muxlis<br />

gauqmeba, rac TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

biurokratiul struqturebs<br />

gaauqmebs. aseve umniSvnelovanesia<br />

ganaTlebis xarisxis<br />

problemaze msjeloba, gare referirebis<br />

meqanizmis danergva. orive<br />

am gadawyvetilebisgan saxelmwifo,<br />

jerjerobiT, Tavs ikavebs, rac<br />

situacias ar cvlis.<br />

_ konkretulad rom gvipasux-<br />

oT: sandro cagareli wavida Tu<br />

gauSviT?<br />

_ „auditoriidan” wasvla ras<br />

niSnavs? baraTi daxia Tu ra? darwmunebuli<br />

var, rom roca saWiro<br />

iqneba, yvela ukan dabrundeba.<br />

_ levan, vin dgas Tqven ukan?<br />

_ momsaxurebis sferoSi<br />

dasaqmebuli adamianebi, statusSe-<br />

Cerebuli da saerTo sacxovrebels<br />

miRma darCenili studentebi<br />

da a.S. Cven xelisuflebis partiuli<br />

oponentebi ar varT, magram<br />

`eWvis doneze vityvi: aSkaraa, rom levan lorTqifaniZes kavSiri aqvs eqspert<br />

gia xuxaSvilTan. am or adamians 2011 wlidan aqvs urTierToba da Tu Cemi<br />

kavSirebi eWvebs aCens vinmesTvis, maSin legitimuria, eWvi gaCndes mis<br />

kavSirebzec. batoni gia xuxaSvili aris prezidentis, paata burWulaZis,<br />

alasaniasa da sxva jgufebis orbitaze~<br />

bunebrivia, mas saganmanaTleblo<br />

da sxva politikuri kursebis xaziT<br />

vakritikebT. isini neoliberalebi<br />

arian, Cven _ memarcxeneebi.<br />

„qronika+~ jgufis erT-erT<br />

gamijnul wevrs, vefxia manias gae-<br />

saubra:<br />

_ jer ar damitovebia, Tumca,<br />

savaraudod, male davtoveb. es<br />

dapirispireba personalur doneze<br />

ar damyavs. viRacebi cdiloben,<br />

rom piradze daiyvanon.<br />

_ ris gamo apirebT wamosvlas?<br />

_ dasawyisidanve CaverTeT,<br />

rogorc progresuli Zala,<br />

romelsac potenciali hqonda, ganaTlebis<br />

Zireuli sakiTxebi dRis<br />

wesrigSi wamoewia, magram amdeni<br />

muSaobis miuxedavad „auditoria<br />

115"-ma ver gansazRvra mTavari<br />

orientirebi.<br />

_ rogor xedavT momavalSi<br />

Tqvens urTierTobas „auditori-<br />

asTan”?<br />

_ albaT, muSaobis procesi gansazRvravs<br />

da dro, Cven vcdilobdiT,<br />

rom moTxovnebi prioritetebis<br />

mixedviT dalagebuliyo, fundamenturi<br />

problema gacnobierebuliyo.<br />

_ ra gaxda gadinebis mizezi?<br />

_ didi Zalisxmeva ixarjeboda<br />

piradi urTierTobebis garCevebze.<br />

oRondac ar vici, wyaro saidan<br />

iyo.<br />

„qronika+” meore mxares, gior-<br />

gi arobeliZes daukavSirda:<br />

_ „qronika+” masalas amzadebs<br />

sandro cagarelsa da Tqven Soris<br />

momxdar dapirispirebaze. „audi-<br />

toria 115" daSlis pirasaa?<br />

_ ukacravad, magram Worao-<br />

bisTvis namdvilad ar mcalia. arc<br />

„auditoria” iSleba da arc raime<br />

gansakuTurebuli xdeba, rom es<br />

Tema yuradRebas imsaxurebdes.<br />

_ amas Tavad gadavwyvetT, ra<br />

imsaxurebs Cvens yudarRebas da<br />

ra _ ara. TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

wevrebs malulad xvdebodiT?<br />

sandro cagareli piradad Tqven<br />

gdebT brals...<br />

_ mas Semdeg, rac „audotoria<br />

115" yvelaze did studentur<br />

moZraobad iqca, araerTi mcdeloba<br />

iyo misi daSlisa, bevri SemTxveva<br />

iyo Cveni aqtivistebis daSinebisa,<br />

magram radganac am gziT ver<br />

SegvaCeres, axla garkveuli Zalebi<br />

jgufis SigniT qaosis Semotanas<br />

cdiloben. Tumca es mcdelobac<br />

ganwirulia. social-demokratiuli<br />

partiis axalgazrduli<br />

frTis wevrebi dRes aRar arian<br />

Cven gverdiT, sxva yvelaferi ki<br />

ucvleli darCa. vagrZelebT brZolas<br />

reformebisTvis. „auditoria<br />

115"-is arseboba qveyanaSi bevr<br />

Zalas ar unda, grZnoben, rom maT<br />

komfortis zonebs safrTxe Seeqmneba.<br />

Sesabamisad, sxvadasxva gziT<br />

cdiloben Cven daSlas.<br />

_ SegiZliaT, detalebze gve-<br />

saubroT?<br />

_ amomwuravad gipasuxeT, mets<br />

verafers davamateb...<br />

„qronika+” cagarelTan dapir-<br />

ispirebul kidev erT students _<br />

irakli kupraZes daukavSirda:<br />

_ adasturebT faqts, rom<br />

Tqveni mxridan daZabuli saubari<br />

iyo cagarelis misamarTiT?<br />

_ arc uarvyof da arc vadastureb,<br />

saerTod ar vakeTeb komentars...<br />

_ is mainc SegiZlia gviTxraT,<br />

„auditoria 115" daiSala Tu ara?<br />

_ ar daSlila da muSaobas vagr-<br />

ZelebT.<br />

_ nawili wevrebisa ratom<br />

gagemijnaT?<br />

_ es Cveulebrivi, cocxali procesia<br />

da mas araferi udgas win.<br />

_ Cveni informaciiT, Tqven<br />

erT-erTi gamorCeuli yofilx-<br />

arT am Sexvedraze, pretenziebi<br />

gqoniaT cagarelTan. arc am<br />

faqts adasturebT?<br />

_ arafers vadastureb. kargad<br />

brZandebodeT.<br />

„qronika+” „auditoria 115"-is<br />

kidev erT wevrs, naTia qarCilaZ-<br />

es daukavSirda:<br />

_ ratom toveben studentur<br />

moZraobas axalgazrdebi?<br />

_ „auditoria 115"-Si samuSao<br />

procesi mimdinareobs. saministrosTan<br />

molaparakebebi droebiT<br />

aRar gvaqvs, seqtembrisTvis vemzadebiT.<br />

„auditoria 115"-Si, martis<br />

ganmavlobaSi, eqvsasamde studenti<br />

iyo sxvadasxva SexedulebiT, sxvadasxva<br />

RirebulebiT... Cven samuSao<br />

procesze gadavediT da, Sesabamisad,<br />

bevri iseTi Tema gamoikveTa,<br />

romelic zogierTs ar moewona. am<br />

kategoriis adamianebi aRar dadian<br />

Sekrebebze. martis movlenebis Semdeg<br />

organizacia sakmaod gaZlierda<br />

da gavlenian studentur moZraobad<br />

Camoyalibda, ris Semdegac<br />

auditoriis garedan daSlas, an<br />

Signidan Ziris gamoTxras cdilobdnen,<br />

magram isev vagrZelebT muSaobas<br />

da brZolas reformisTvis. Cveni<br />

miznebi da amocanebi ucvlelia.<br />

_ gviTxres, rom naTia qar-<br />

CilaZe da giorgi arobeliZe<br />

farulad xvdebodnen TviTm-<br />

marTvelobis wevrebso...<br />

_ gasagebad gipasuxeT. es aris<br />

Cemi komentari...<br />

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- am gadawyvetilebiT, elementarulad,<br />

Caxsnes is orkaciani Tu samkaciani partiebi,<br />

romlebic kus rom morieli daajdeba,<br />

ise iyvnen. es adamianebi oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

parlamentSi isxdnen. davinaxeT, rom<br />

maT, praqtikulad, araferi gaukeTebiaT<br />

qveynisTvis, socialur-ekonomikuri mdgomareobis<br />

SecvlisTvis, iseve, rogorc teritoriuli<br />

mTlianobis aRdgenisTvis da a.S.<br />

piriqiT, mcocavi okupacia mimdinareobs,<br />

e. w. sazRvrispira regionidan Cvens mosaxleobas<br />

yoveldRiurad itaceben.<br />

amitom 2016 wlis 8 oqtombers, albaT,<br />

yvela dafiqrdeba, yvelafers awon-dawonis<br />

da im Zalas dauWers mxars, romelic mkveTr<br />

nabijebs gadadgams, rom ruseTTan urTier-<br />

Toba daalagos, teritoriuli mTlianoba<br />

aRdges, biujetis Sesabamisi koreqtireba<br />

moxdes xalxis keTildReobis amaRlebisTvis,<br />

konkretuli Sedegebis miRwevisTvis.<br />

es Zala „memarcxene aliansia”, romelic<br />

yovelTvis am mimarTulebiT ibrZoda da am<br />

kuTxiT aqtiur muSaobas gaagrZelebs.<br />

_ dRevandeli saarCevno sistema Sevafa-<br />

soT, riTac arCevnebze gavdivarT...<br />

_ veraviTar kritikas ver uZlebs maT<br />

mier miRebuli kanonproeqti. „memarcxene<br />

aliansi” yovelTvis ibrZoda imisTvis, rom<br />

arsebuli maxinji sistema, rogorc maJoritaruli<br />

sistemaa, gauqmebuliyo da arCevnebi<br />

regionul-proporciuli wesiT Catarebuliyo.<br />

magram raoden cinikuria dRes „nacionalebis”<br />

gancxadeba, rom Turme es maJoritaruli<br />

sistema maxinji yofila. am dros,<br />

swored am maJoritaruli sistemiT darCa<br />

mixeil saakaSvili, Tavis droze, xelisu-<br />

`qarTulma ocnebam~ politikurad swori nabiji<br />

gadadga, rodesac sazogadoebas ganucxada, rom<br />

arCevnebSi damoukideblad miiRebs monawileobas. am<br />

gadawyvetilebiT, elementarulad, Caxsnes is orkaciani<br />

Tu samkaciani partiebi, romlebic kus rom morieli<br />

daajdeba, ise iyvnen. es adamianebi oTxi wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi parlamentSi isxdnen. davinaxeT, rom maT,<br />

praqtikulad, araferi gaukeTebiaT qveynisTvis,<br />

socialur-ekonomikuri mdgomareobis SecvlisTvis,<br />

iseve, rogorc teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdgenisTvis<br />

da a.S. piriqiT, mcocavi okupacia mimdinareobs, e. w.<br />

sazRvrispira regionidan Cvens mosaxleobas<br />

yoveldRiurad itaceben. amitom 2016 wlis 8<br />

oqtombers, albaT, yvela dafiqrdeba, yvelafers awon-<br />

dawonis da im Zalas dauWers mxars, romelic mkveTr<br />

nabijebs gadadgams, rom ruseTTan urTierToba<br />

daalagos, teritoriuli mTlianoba aRdges, biujetis<br />

Sesabamisi koreqtireba moxdes xalxis keTildReobis<br />

amaRlebisTvis, konkretuli Sedegebis miRwevisTvis~<br />

paata jiblaZe:<br />

`mTavari dapireba, rac am<br />

xelisuflebam ver Seasrula,<br />

samarTlianobis aRdgenaa~<br />

flebSi.<br />

gaixseneT 2003 weli, rodesac arCevnebi<br />

gayalbebulad gamoacxades, partiebi parlamentidan<br />

gamoyares, magram imave xalxis<br />

mier arCeuli maJoritari deputatebi<br />

saakaSvilma datova. es awyobdaT, radgan<br />

rasac CasZaxebdnen, isinic xom igives amosZaxebdnen?<br />

mere gavixsenoT 2008, 2010 wlis arCevnebi,<br />

isev im sistemiT Catarda. Tu undodaT,<br />

SeecvalaT, magram maTac imedi hqondaT,<br />

rom am gziT xelisuflebaSi yofnas gaigr-<br />

Zelebdnen. amitom migvaCnia, rom es sistema<br />

absoluturad miuRebeli unda iyos Cveni<br />

sazogadoebisTvis. Tu Cven movalT parlamentSi,<br />

imisTvis vizrunebT, rom es maxinji<br />

sistema saswrafod Seicvalos.<br />

_ ra formiT gadixarT saparlamento<br />

arCevnebze?<br />

_ molaparakebebi mimdinareobs, magram<br />

Cveni upirvelesi amosavali ideologiuri<br />

TvalTaxedva iqneba aseve erovnuloba. es<br />

Cveni amosavali wertili iqneba, Tu arCevnebSi<br />

koaliciis saxiT monawileoba gadavwyviteT.<br />

iseve, rogorc politikur gadawyvetilebas<br />

miviRebT maJoritaruli wesiT<br />

arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT. nebismier Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi, arCevnebSi monawileobas miviRebT<br />

da warmatebis mopovebas vgegmavT. gvsurs,<br />

arCevnebSi moanawileobiT sabolood<br />

CavZiroT „nacionaluri moZraoba”. es politikuri<br />

organizacia unda gaqres rukidan,<br />

maT satelitebTan erTad.<br />

me-14 gverdidan<br />

erTxel mivida RaribaSvili da<br />

hkiTxa, _ wavide Tu arao? da, _<br />

arao, _ uTxra. meorejer mivida da<br />

hkiTxa, _ wavide Tu arao? da, _<br />

isev arao. rogorc aRmoCnda, eqvs<br />

TveSi erTxel usvamen am kiTxvas.<br />

da erT mSvenier dRes SeiZleba<br />

mivides kvirikaSvili da uTxras, _<br />

ho, is droa, rom waxvideo.<br />

rogor fiqrobT, Cveni mosaxleoba<br />

pasuxismgeblobas vis daakisrebs?<br />

cudad rom aris saqme visi<br />

bralia? kvirikaSvilis Tu ivaniSvilis?<br />

pasuxismgebeli yovelTvis<br />

realuri mmarTvelia da ra Tqma<br />

unda, es aris problema. amitom<br />

Cveni mosaxleoba swor gadawyvetilebas<br />

miiRebs.<br />

_ premieri kvirikaSvili ax-<br />

seneT, man mowodeba gaakeTa, rom<br />

yvelam kodeqss moaweros xeli<br />

saarCevnod qcevis wesebze, amaze<br />

Tqveni pozicia rogoria?<br />

_ TvalSi nacris Seyraa. uamravi<br />

faqti gvaqvs SerCeviTi marTlmsajulebis.<br />

magaliTad, pirdapir<br />

eTerSi deputats xeli daartyes,<br />

RviniaSvilze vsaubrob; Tavdasxma<br />

iyo deputatebze, wiklaurze; iyo<br />

korcxelis darbeva. ra sasjelia,<br />

rodesac deputatis pijakis dazianebis<br />

mcdelobisTvis patimrobaSi<br />

isxdnen Cveni biWebi? arc<br />

erT konkretul saqmes saTanado<br />

reagireba ar mohyolia.<br />

magaliTad, iyo Tema, rom es „kanonieri<br />

qurdi” odeselma da „nacionalebma”<br />

Cagvideso. „remena” Semoiyvanes<br />

(roman barbaqaZe) da mas arc<br />

meti, arc naklebi, aeroportSi daxvda<br />

ce-klasis „mersedesi”, zqz-222,<br />

romelic maSin keWaymaZis, energetikis<br />

ministris uaxloesi megobris<br />

meuRleze iyo gaformebuli.<br />

mindia goraZe Semoiyvanes da<br />

mere rac moxda, Tqvenc kargad<br />

iciT. aseve giorgi janeliZe (gior-<br />

30<br />

vo? am daqiravebaSi gareulia meria<br />

da kalaZis colisZma areSiZe.<br />

amitom ras gvelaparakeba premieri,<br />

vin „boldeba” amiT? marTla<br />

hgoniaT, rom xalxi ver xvdeba<br />

verafers? maSin Tqvas, rom me ar<br />

maqvs amaze pasuxismgeblobao. es<br />

ufro gasagebi iqneboda. axla kidev<br />

kalaZis Stabis ufrosad daniSvna,<br />

romelzedac eWvi gvaqvs, rom<br />

amaSi monawileobda, es ra signalia?<br />

amis Semdeg erT kviraSi gamodis<br />

da siZulvilis eniT ar vilapara-<br />

mixeil maWavariani:<br />

`gamarjvebisTvis vemzadebiT,<br />

yvela Sansi gvaqvs!~<br />

gi piterski), ruseTidan deportacia<br />

moxda 2014 wlis 23 marts. es<br />

kaci sazRvarze rom gadmovida, iq<br />

ar dafiqsirebula. samagierod, 14<br />

oqtombers dafiqsirda, roca<br />

saqarTvelo datova. amitom xom<br />

warmogidgeniaT, reebze midian,<br />

rom sxvas gadaabralon.<br />

_ es procesi raze mianiSnebs?<br />

_ e. w. qurdul avtoritetebs<br />

amuSaveben. Tqven ra ggoniaT, korcxelSi<br />

rac moxda (darbeva), am<br />

biWebs saidan gaaxsendaT, rom unda<br />

evarjiSaT? an ratom unda uqira-<br />

koTo... da vin laparakobs siZulvilis<br />

eniT? isev xelisuflebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi.<br />

_ arsebuli saarCevno garemo<br />

rogor SeiZleba, SevafasoT?<br />

_ mxolod citatebs mogiyvanT<br />

euTosa da „endiais” winaswari dokumentebidan.<br />

garemo fasdeba,<br />

rogorc sakmaod rTuli.<br />

dRes gavrcelda evrosabWos<br />

saparlamento asambleis 45 wevris<br />

(sxvadasxva qveynidan da fraqciidan)<br />

gancxadeba, romelSic mTavrobas<br />

mouwodeben, rom qveyanaSi<br />

30 N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

sakmaod rTuli garemoa, opoziciis<br />

winaaRmdeg Zaladobaa, administraciuli<br />

resursis gamoyenebaa,<br />

merabiSvilis mimarT aRniSnuli ganaCeni<br />

aris da gareT ar uSveben...<br />

mouwodeben, rom saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobam adekvaturi zomebi miiRos.<br />

axla meti ra unda vTqva, roca<br />

euTo, „endiai” amaze saubrobs<br />

da evrosabWos saparlamento asambleis<br />

45 deputati amas awers xels.<br />

_ rogori kampaniis warmarTvas<br />

apirebs „nacionaluri moZraoba”<br />

da ra Sedegs elodebiT 8 oqtomb-<br />

ers?<br />

_ Cven im problemebze saubars<br />

vapirebT (gamosavlis gzebze), rac<br />

ekonomikaSia. ar mogvwons ekonomikuri<br />

mdgomareoba, ar mogvwons,<br />

rom pensia 50 lariT ar izrdeba,<br />

ar mogvwons, rom mogebis gadasaxadi<br />

ar Semcirda, rogorc unda<br />

Semcirebuliyo da, faqtobrivad,<br />

mis gauqmebas viTxovdiT.<br />

Cven ar mogvwons, rom saSemosavlo<br />

ar Semcirda, ar mogvwons, rom<br />

ar xorcieldeba dasaqmebis<br />

konkretuli programebi infrastruqturis<br />

mimarTulebiT. saqarTvelo<br />

unikaluri qveyana gaxda<br />

2003 wlis mere. realurad, energodeficituri<br />

qveyana iyo da 2007<br />

wels eleqtroenergias vyiddiT.<br />

Sansi axlac gvaqvs. Cven ar gagvaCnia<br />

navTobi, ar gvyavs diaspora,<br />

magram gvaqvs Warbi eleqtroenergia.<br />

amaze aRar fiqroben. Tqven Tu<br />

SexedavT, rogor Cerdeba energetikaSi<br />

investiciebi da rogor undodaT<br />

kalaZes da ivaniSvils CvenTvis<br />

Tavze moexviaT „gazpromi”,<br />

naTeli xdeba yvelaferi.<br />

_ ra Sedegebs elodebiT<br />

arCevnebze?<br />

_ gamarjvebisTvis vemzadebiT.<br />

yvela Sansi gvaqvs, maT Soris, amaze<br />

metyvelebs „endiaisa” da „airais”<br />

kvlevebi, romlisac biZina ivaniSvils<br />

ar sjera...

Si ereva: Tu rogor unda imarTebodnen<br />

es komerciuli bankebi da<br />

xandaxan am marTvas uaRresad arakonstruqciuli<br />

da araswori<br />

Sedegebi aqvs, radgan igi upasuxismgeblobas<br />

axalisebs. es kontrolia<br />

da, garkveulwilad,<br />

„zurgic”, poziciiT, _ midi (banko),<br />

me (erovnuli banki) aq var,<br />

nu geSinia da rac ginda, is qeni<br />

_ es aris maTi kontroli. igive<br />

gamoixateba refinansirebis sesxebiTac.<br />

radgan am komerciul bankebs<br />

erovnuli bankis „zurgi” aqvT,<br />

amitom isini ufro upasuxismgebloni<br />

arian, vidre unda iyvnen.<br />

es ukanaskneli ki ufro meti da<br />

riskiani sesxis gacemiT gamoixateba,<br />

vidre sxva SemTxvevaSi gaakeTebdnen.<br />

axla ki „erovnuli banki”<br />

sxvadasxva formiT azRvevs<br />

maT, gansakuTrebiT imiT, rom<br />

gaWirvebis SemTxvevaSi SeuZlia,<br />

devalvacia ganaxorcielos, bank-<br />

sabanko sistema im komerciul<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

da arakomerciul bankebze dgas,<br />

romlebic uamrav profilur, Tu<br />

masze met araprofilur bizness flobs. maT ki erTi instituti<br />

_ „erovnuli banki” uwevs koordinebas. rogori mgomar-<br />

eobaa dRes bazarze da ra radikaluri nabijebis gadadgmaa<br />

saWiro Cveni qveynis ekonomikis mosawesrigeblad?<br />

`qronika+”-s esaubreba „axa-<br />

li ekonomikuri skola _ saqar-<br />

Tvelos” prezidenti, ekonomis-<br />

ti paata SeSeliZe:<br />

_ batono paata, ra mdgomareobaa<br />

dRes qarTul bazarze ko-<br />

merciuli bankebis mxriv da ra<br />

aris maTi „simZlavris” mizezi?<br />

_ komerciuli bankebi dRes<br />

sindikats qmnian, romelsac „erovnuli<br />

banki” marTavs. mis unebarTvod<br />

isini qaRalds ver deben<br />

erTi adgilidan meoreze. „erovnuli<br />

banki” umcires detaleb-<br />

rotobis SemTxvevaSic aseve daicvas<br />

igive sesxebis gawelvisa da<br />

sxva mravali proceduris gziT.<br />

_ e. i. erovnuli banki komerciul<br />

bankebs „mfarvelobs”. realurad,<br />

ra aris misi daniS-<br />

nuleba da ra dadebiTi moaqvs<br />

e.b.-is muSaobas?<br />

_ „erovnuli banki” aris absoluturad<br />

xorcmeti instituti,<br />

romelic zaralis mets arafers<br />

gvaZlevs. instituti, romelic<br />

am procedurebis gamo bankebSi<br />

axalisebs riskianobas da windau-<br />

`Cven ar gvWirdeba saxelmwifos mier marTuli<br />

monetaruli sistema. Tu adamians ekonomikaSi<br />

odnavi ganaTleba mainc aqvs, mas eWvi ar unda<br />

gauCndes, rom fuli sabazro produqtia,<br />

romelic Tavis droze Siqmna, rogorc sabazro<br />

produqti, rogorc moTxovna-miwodebis<br />

procesis nawili. rodesac adamianebs imis<br />

moTxovnileba gauCndaT, rom gacvlis<br />

saSualeba hqonodaT, romelic maT interesebis<br />

Sesabamisad moemsaxureboda, is warmoiSva,<br />

rogorc sxva, nebismieri saqoneli, an<br />

momsaxureba, romelic bazarze gvaqvs, amitom<br />

igi am procesSive unda darCes, dinamikuri<br />

unda iyos. fuli kerZo mowodebis safuZvelze<br />

unda brunavdes da, Sesabamisad, saxelmwifos<br />

Careva mxolod negatiuria, mas mxolod<br />

falsificireba SeuZlia~<br />

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aleba hqonodaT, romelic maT<br />

interesebis Sesabamisad moemsaxureboda,<br />

is warmoiSva, rogorc<br />

sxva, nebismieri saqoneli, an momsaxureba,<br />

romelic bazarze gvaqvs,<br />

amitom igi am procesSive unda<br />

darCes, dinamikuri unda iyos.<br />

fuli kerZo mowodebis safuZvelze<br />

unda brunavdes da, Sesabamisad,<br />

saxelmwifos Careva mxolod<br />

negatiuria, mas mxolod<br />

falsificireba SeuZlia.<br />

saqarTveloSi lari erovnuli<br />

valutaa, mis kurss adgens saxelmwifo;<br />

fulis mimoqcevaSi ga-<br />

Sveba-argaSvebis sakiTxs adgens<br />

saxelmwifo; refinansirebis se-<br />

paata SeSeliZe:<br />

`erovnuli<br />

banki~ unda<br />

gauqmdes!~<br />

sxis ganakveTis dadgena, bankebis<br />

registracia, maTi xelmZRvanelobis<br />

daniSvna Tanxmdeba xelisuflebasTan.<br />

yvela detalze,<br />

yvela patara niuansSi ereva da<br />

es Zalian cudia.<br />

_ ra aris yvelaze didi prob-<br />

lema monetarul sistemaSi?<br />

_ monetarul sistemaSi yvelaze<br />

didi problema aris „erovnuli<br />

banki” da is sistema, romelic<br />

gvaqvs, ubralod, ar gvWirdeba.<br />

mas alternativac ki ar<br />

gaaCnia, _ roca Tavi gtkiva, unda<br />

moirCino, alternativa xom ar<br />

aris, Tavis magivrad muceli<br />

agtkivdes, ubralod, unda moir-<br />

Cino. bazarze saxelmwifo aris<br />

mxolod monopolisti da falsifikatori,<br />

sadac SeiZleba Tqven<br />

waagoT, magram sxvebs niSani misceT,<br />

rom gafrTxildnen. visac<br />

fulis Tema esmis, imaTTvis es<br />

yvelaferi axali araa.<br />

_ ekonomikis ganviTarebas<br />

ramdenad uSlis xels saxelmwifos<br />

Careva monetarul poli-<br />

tikaSi?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, uSlis, es katastrofaa!<br />

faqtobrivad, politikuri<br />

da piradi interesebis<br />

sasargeblod mudmivi sabazro<br />

signalebis falsificirebaa.<br />

dRes mimarTuleba iseTia,<br />

rom Cven xelSesaxebi Sedegebi<br />

gveqneboda imisgan, rasac va-<br />

xedav gadawyvetilebebs, provocirebas<br />

ukeTebs sakredito eqspansias,<br />

romelic, rogorc wesi,<br />

mTavrdeba imiT, rom Sedegad vi-<br />

RebT daumTavrebel proeqtebs,<br />

Zvir bazars da Semdeg amis gamosworebaSi<br />

daxarjul drosa<br />

da energias. fuli aris is, rasac<br />

adamianebi nebayoflobiT iyeneben<br />

da mas saxelmwifo marTva<br />

ar sWirdeba _ es elementarulia<br />

da arc bankebsa da sxva biznes<br />

struqturebs sWirdebaT zedamxedveloba.<br />

isini ufro metad<br />

pasuxismgeblianebi iqnebian. yoveli<br />

zedamxedveloba ki pasuxismgeblobis<br />

gadanawilebas niSnavs,<br />

rac am da sxva SemTxvevaSi<br />

imiT mTavrdeba, rom aseTi zedamxedvelobis<br />

qveS myofi institutebi<br />

ufro riskianebi arian,<br />

vidre sxva SemTxvevaSi iqnebodnen.<br />

_ ra roli aqvs saxelmwifos,<br />

rogor unda moiqces igi?<br />

N23(154) 28.6-4.7.2016 w.<br />

`erovnuli banki~ aris absoluturad xorcmeti<br />

instituti, romelic zaralis mets arafers<br />

gvaZlevs. instituti, romelic am<br />

procedurebis gamo bankebSi axalisebs<br />

riskianobas da windauxedav gadawyvetilebebs,<br />

provocirebas ukeTebs sakredito eqspansias,<br />

romelic, rogorc wesi, mTavrdeba imiT, rom<br />

Sedegad viRebT daumTavrebel proeqtebs, Zvir<br />

bazars da Semdeg amis gamosworebaSi daxarjul<br />

drosa da energias~<br />

_ aranairi. Cven ar gvWirdeba<br />

saxelmwifos mier marTuli monetaruli<br />

sisitema. Tu adamians<br />

ekonomikaSi odnavi ganaTleba<br />

mainc aqvs, mas eWvi ar unda gauCndes,<br />

rom fuli sabazro produqtia,<br />

romelic Tavis droze<br />

Siqmna, rogorc sabazro produqti,<br />

rogorc moTxovna-miwodebis<br />

procesis nawili. rodesac<br />

adamianebs imis moTxovnileba<br />

gauCndaT, rom gacvlis saSu-<br />

keTebT. wesiT, ekonomikis ganvi-<br />

Tarebis, bazrebis gafarToebis,<br />

axali teqnologiebis Semosvlis<br />

kvalobaze Cven ufro iafi da xelmisawvdomi<br />

produqcia unda<br />

gvqondes, Tumca mudmivi inflacia<br />

gvaqvs. rogor SeiZleba, teqnika<br />

viTardebodes, yvelaferi<br />

martivdebodes da Sen fasebi gezrdebodes?!<br />

xom ar aris logikuri<br />

aseTi scenari?! ratom xdeba<br />

es ase?! imitom, rom arasworad<br />

muSaoben. CarTuli aqvT fulis<br />

sabeWdi manqana da provocirebas<br />

uweven inflacias.<br />

gagrZeleba 32-e gv.<br />

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airCies mosamarTled da dRes is saapelacio<br />

sasamarTloSi sakmaod maRal Tanam-<br />

debobazea. am faqts rogor SeafasebT?<br />

_ me var nikola ferero, „12 advokatis<br />

konferenciis” wevri. Cven yvela iseTi<br />

faqtiT dainteresebas vapirebT, sadac adamianis<br />

mTavari uflebebi irRveva. is, rac<br />

Tqvenc CamoTvaleT, darRvevebia da, ra<br />

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lafers?<br />

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32<br />

si regulirebebi ki erT-erTi<br />

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Secdomebidan dazRveuli<br />

aravinaa, magram niSnebi<br />

iqneboda swori. umTavresi problema<br />

aris „erovnuli banki”. mi-<br />

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dinare. ubralod, imis niSani,<br />

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arsebobs 4 vandaluri karceri,<br />

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slovakeTi-inglisi 0:0<br />

slovakebs jgufidan gasasvlelad<br />

frec hyofnidaT, ingliselebs<br />

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mdgomareoba: 1. uelsi – 6 qula,<br />

2. inglisi – 5, 3. slovakeTi – 4,<br />

4. ruseTi – 1.<br />

38<br />

C jgufi<br />

Crd. irlandia-germania 0:1<br />

goli: 0:1 gomesi (29)<br />

uferulad moTamaSe mario giotces<br />

nacvlad germanelTa Tavkacma<br />

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ukraina-poloneTi 0:1<br />

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daemSvidobnen. poloneTis<br />

nakrebma, marTalia, Svid qulas mouyara<br />

Tavi, magram mainc meore pozicias<br />

dasjerda, radgan germanias<br />

burTebis ukeTesi sxvaoba hqonda.<br />

jgufis saboloo saturniro<br />

mdgomareoba: 1. germania – 7, 2.<br />

poloneTi – 7, 3. Crd. irlandia<br />

– 3, 4. ukraina – 0.<br />

D jgufi<br />

xorvatia-espaneTi 2:1<br />

golebi: 0:1 morata (7), 1:1<br />

kaliniCi (45), 2:1 periSiCi (87)<br />

plei ofSi TamaSi orive gunds<br />

dabevebuli hqonda, gasarkvevi<br />

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saamisod espanelebs frec hyofnidaT,<br />

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ganmeorda.<br />

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golebi: 0:1 biraq ilmazi (10), 0:2<br />

ozan Tufani (65)<br />

TiTqos gamarjvebis meti Sansi<br />

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mervedfinalSi gasvlis Sanss<br />

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ver moxvda.<br />

jgufis saboloo saturniro<br />

mdgomareoba: 1. xorvatia – 7, 2.<br />

espaneTi – 6, 3. TurqeTi – 3, 4.<br />

CexeTi – 1.<br />

E jgufi<br />

SvedeTi-belgia 0:1<br />

goli: 0:1 naingolani (84)<br />

SvedeTs jgufidan gasasvlelad<br />

mxolod gamarjveba hyofnida,<br />

magram matCi favoritma moigo.<br />

uferulad mimdinare TamaSis er-<br />

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naingolanis efeqturi goli iyo.<br />

amiT zlatan ibrahimoviCis sanakrebo<br />

kariera dasrulda.<br />

italia-irlandia 0:1<br />

goli: 0:1 breidi (85)<br />

italias bolo turis win araTu<br />

mervedfinali, jgufSi pirvelobac<br />

garantirebuli hqonda da amitomac<br />

skuadra aZuras mTavarma<br />

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daasvena. metoqis dasustebiT<br />

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golma saukeTeso mesameadgilosnebSi<br />

irlandia Seiyvana da Turqe-<br />

Ti Sin gaistumra.<br />

jgufis saboloo saturniro<br />

mdgomareoba: 1. italia – 6, 2. belgia<br />

– 6, 3. irlandia – 4, 4. Svede-<br />

Ti – 1.<br />

F jgufi<br />

ungreTi-portugalia 3:3<br />

golebi: 1:0 gera (19), 1:1 nani (42),<br />

2:1 jujaki (47), 2:2 ronaldu (50),<br />

3:2 jujaki (55), 3:3 ronaldu (62)<br />

ungreTi samjer dawinaurda,<br />

portugaliam ki samivejer gaaTanabra.<br />

ase dasrulda Trileri, sadac,<br />

sabolood, friT orive gundi<br />

kmayofili darCa. ungreTma mervedfinalSi<br />

pirveli adgiliT Seabija,<br />

portugaliam ki mesame adgiliTa<br />

da sami friT.<br />

islandia-avstria 2:1<br />

golebi: 1:0 biovarsoni (18), 1:1<br />

Siopfi (60), 2:1 traustasoni (90)<br />

msajis mier damatebul meoTxe<br />

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evropis Cempionatis yvela favoriti<br />

erT mxares moxvda.<br />

jgufis saboloo saturniro<br />

mdgomareoba: 1. ungreTi – 5, 2.<br />

islandia – 5, 3. portugalia – 3,<br />

4. avstria – 1.<br />

mervedfinali<br />

Sveicaria-poloneTi 1:1<br />

penaltebiT: 3:5<br />

golebi: 0:1 blaSCikovski (39), 1:1<br />

Saqiri (82)<br />

am matCSi Cempionatis, jerjerobiT,<br />

saukeTeso goli gavida –<br />

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xazidan polonelTa kari<br />

`makratelaTi~ dalaSqra. aman TamaSi<br />

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sadac Saqiri da misi Tanagundelebi<br />

ukeT gamoiyurebodnen, magram<br />

saqme matCisSemdgom penaltebamde<br />

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da meoTxedfinalSi polonelebi<br />

gavidnen.<br />

uelsi-CrdiloeT irlandia 1:0<br />

goli: 1:0 makoli (75. sak. karSi)<br />

britanul derbiSi favoritebad<br />

uelselebi miiCneodnen da maT<br />

gamarjvebas miaRwies kidec, magram<br />

meoTxedfinalis sagzuri iolad<br />

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gareT beilma gadawyvita, romlis<br />

gamWol gadacemasac avtogoli<br />

mohyva.<br />

xorvatia-portugalia 0:0<br />

damatebiT droSi: 0:1<br />

goli: 0:1 kvareJma (117)<br />

matCi, romelic, wesiT, sanaxaobrivi<br />

unda gamosuliyo, metismetad<br />

mosawyeni gamodga. orive gundma<br />

sakuTari karis usafrTxoebaze<br />

gaakeTa aqcenti da damatebiTi<br />

drois miwurulamde saintereso<br />

araferi gvinaxavs. samagierod, 117-<br />

e wuTze namdvili drama ganviTarda<br />

– xorvatebma, rogorc iqna,<br />

didi ZalebiT Seteva gariskes da<br />

burTi metoqis karis Zels moartyes,<br />

sapasuxo kontrSetevisas<br />

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mekarem moigeria, damatebaze ki<br />

yvelas rikardo kvareJmam daaswro<br />

da mTeli xorvatia daamwuxra.<br />

safrangeTi-irlandia 2:1<br />

golebi: 0:1 breidi (2. pen.), 1:1<br />

grizmani (57), 2:1 grizmani (61)<br />

matCi irlandielebma daiwyes<br />

da umal moipoves TerTmetmetrianis<br />

Sesrulebis ufleba, romelic<br />

golad aqcies. frangebi mZime<br />

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