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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

qveynis<br />

krizissac<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N37 (<strong>168</strong>) 18.10<br />

10.201<br />

.2016 fasi 2 lari<br />

soso hqvia!<br />

gv. 7<br />

yofili partizanis<br />

skandaluri aRiareba<br />

irakli RaribaSvilisa da laSa<br />

nacvliSvilis sagangebo davaleba<br />

gv. 2<br />

zaza xatiaSvili:<br />

`ivaniSvilma mSvidi arCevnebi<br />

Caatara da mSvidad `damarxa~<br />

politikuri speqtri!~ gv. 4<br />

giorgi baramiZe:<br />

`ivaniSvilis xelSi sakonstitucio<br />

umravlesoba qveynisTvis<br />

didi safrTxea~ gv. 14<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

dimitri xundaZe:<br />

`ar aris gamoricxuli<br />

davfiqrde, miRirs Tu ara<br />

parlamentSi Sesvla~ gv. 8<br />

levan berZeniSvili:<br />

`ara mgonia `qarTul ocnebas~<br />

usufaSvilis dari kadri hyavdes<br />

parlamentis Tavmjdomared~ gv. 11<br />

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ar vyofilvar, magram viTareba<br />

Zalian cudiao. swored im wuTs<br />

gogi naWyebias samuSao oTaxSi<br />

samegrelos amJamindeli gubernatori,<br />

levan Sonia dacvis wevr-<br />

Tan erTad Sevida. levan Soniam<br />

r. g.-sTan saubari gaagrZela, _<br />

nuravis imedi nu geqneba, damTavrda,<br />

rac ginaxavs, veRar naxavo.<br />

Tu kargad moiqcevi, Sens Tavs<br />

upatrone da yvelaferi kargad<br />

iqneba, gaweuli samsaxuri dagifasdebao.<br />

aqve levan Soniam mas<br />

daukonkreta, _ Cvenebebi gvinda,<br />

Cven ki bevri viciT Senze, magram<br />

Seni naTqvami bevrad ufro damajerebeli<br />

iqnebao. amaT „modul-<br />

Si” unda wahyve, danarCenze iq dagelaparakebiano.<br />

me rogorc galels,<br />

Senze guli mwydeba, minda,<br />

yvelaferi gqondes da kargad<br />

iyoo. amis Semdeg levan Soniam r.<br />

g.-s ori stumari gaacno. erT<br />

maTgans aleqsi erqva, meores kaxa<br />

_ (CixlaZe). r. g. misaRebSi gaiyvanes<br />

da ramdenime wuTSi Tbilisisken<br />

daiZrnen. „modulis” SenobaSi<br />

r. g.-s elodebodnen. is, misive<br />

ganmartebiT, meore sarTulze,<br />

derefnis marjvena mxares,<br />

erT-erT oTaxSi Seiyvanes. isic<br />

da misi meTvalyureebic saRamos<br />

Svidi saaTidan pirvel saaTamde<br />

laSa nacvliSvils elodebodnen.<br />

saubarSi aleqsic da kaxac periodulad<br />

interesdebodnen, Se-<br />

Zlebda Tu ara is, qarTul specsamsaxurebs<br />

afxazeTis teritoriaze<br />

daxmareboda. r. g.-m aucilebel<br />

pirobad konfidencialobis<br />

dacva moiTxova. Ramis pirvyofili<br />

partizanis<br />

`qarTulma ocnebam” xelisufle-<br />

eliso kilaZe<br />

irakli baSi yofnis oTxi weli sazogadoe-<br />

599 17 12 12 bas faruli Canawerebis, piradi cxovrebis<br />

amsaxveli firebis gavrcelebiT,<br />

SantaJiT da devniT daamaxsovra. saqmeebi gamouZiebe-<br />

lia, damnaSaveebi dasjili ar arian.<br />

„qronika+”-s amjerad yofili<br />

partizani, r. g. daukavSirda, romelic<br />

ramdenime skandaluri saqmis<br />

aranakleb skandalur detalebs<br />

amxels. misi monaTxrobidan<br />

irkveva, rom gela xvedeliZis<br />

winaaRmdeg mTeli Zalovani vertikali<br />

muSaobda, maT Soris, Ss<br />

ministris yofili moadgile laSa<br />

nacvliSvili da samxedro policiis<br />

maRalCinosani kaxa CixlaZe.<br />

r. g. afxazeTidan devnilia,<br />

2013 wlis ianvris dasawyisSi es<br />

pirovneba zugdidSi „susis” maSindelma<br />

ufrosma gogi naWyebiam<br />

daibara. maT Soris saubari sam<br />

saaTze met xans grZeldeboda.<br />

Saubarii iyo konkretul saqmeze<br />

sasurveli Cvenebis miRebaze.<br />

saubris bolos gogi naWyebias<br />

telefonze daurekes. amis Semdeg<br />

igi r. g.-s moubrunda: ginda Tu<br />

ar ginda, es ukve Seni gadasawyveti<br />

araa, „modulis” SenobaSi laSa<br />

nacvliSvili gelodeba, rogorc<br />

iq moiqcevi, saqmec ise wagivao.<br />

cxadi iyo, nacvliSvili da naWyebia<br />

SeTanxmebulad moqmedebdnen.<br />

r. g.-m saxlSi darekvis ufleba<br />

iTxova, magram mas amis saSualeba<br />

ar misces. ramdenime wuTSi naWyebias<br />

oTaxSi ori piri Semovida.<br />

erTi maTgani gogi naWyebiam mosasvenebel<br />

oTaxSi gaiyvana, meore<br />

ki r. g.-s win Camoujda da magidaze<br />

nouTbuqi, da fotoaparati<br />

daawyo. moulodnelma stumarma<br />

yofil partizans afxazeTze<br />

Camougdo saubari, _ ra xdeba, ra<br />

viTarebaa am wuTas sazRvris iqi-<br />

To? r. g.-m pasuxad, _ didi xania,<br />

irakli RaribaSvilisa<br />

da laSa nacvliSvilis<br />

sagangebo davaleba<br />

irakli RaribaSvili<br />

Tamaz TamazaSvili<br />

laSa nacvliSvili<br />

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skandaluri aRiareba<br />

irakli RaribaSvili da gela xvedeliZe<br />

el saaTze mas uTxres, rom Sinagan<br />

saqmeTa ministri irakli RaribaSvili<br />

masTan laSa nacvliSvils<br />

agzavnida da yvelaferi ma-<br />

Ral doneze gadawydeboda. zustad<br />

naxevar saaTSi r. g.-sTan la-<br />

Sa nacvliSvili da kaxa Sevidnen.<br />

aleqsisa da kaxas igi jer isev<br />

saxelebiT icnobda da „susis”<br />

maRalCinosnebi egona. laSa nacvliSvili<br />

saxeze icno. Ss ministris<br />

moadgilem masTan saubari<br />

okupirebul afxazeTSi rus samxedroebze<br />

Tavdasxmis faqtebiT<br />

daiwyo. r. g.-s ganmartebiT, maT<br />

Soris saubari TiTqmis oTxi saa-<br />

Ti grZeldeboda. laSa nacvliSvils<br />

misTvis cru mowmeoba aRar<br />

mouTxovia, mas mxolod is ainteresebda,<br />

SeZlebda Tu ara afxazeTSi<br />

gadasvlas da hqonda Tu<br />

ara SenarCunebuli kavSiri afxazur<br />

partizanul dajgufebasTan.<br />

aseve ainteresebda, ra urTier-<br />

Toba hqonda rus samxedroebTan.<br />

laSa nacvliSvilTan saubari dilis<br />

oTx saaTze, konkreuli SeTavazebis<br />

gareSe, dasrulda. nacvliSvilma<br />

aleqsisa da kaxas daubara,<br />

r. g. iqve, „modulis” Senoba-<br />

Si moesvenebinaT. diliT sauzmisas<br />

kaxas isev daurekes da r. g.-s<br />

saswrafod meore sarTulze ayvana<br />

mosTxoves, man derefanSive<br />

SeamCnia laSa nacvliSvili mis-<br />

Tvis ucnob pirovnebasTan erTad.<br />

man ojaxSi darekvis ufleba isev<br />

iTxova, telefoni misces da uTxres,<br />

ojaxisTvis ar gaemxila, rom<br />

TbilisSi imyofeboda, Tqvi, rom<br />

megobrebTan erTad TurqeTSi<br />

wavedio. laSa nacvliSvilma r. g.-<br />

s magidaze oTxi fotosuraTi<br />

daudo. mas gansakuTrebiT valmir<br />

buTbas amocnoba ainteresebda.<br />

oTxi fotodan r. g.-m, misive<br />

gadmocemiT, sami amoicno. erTerTi<br />

maTgani engurs gamoRma<br />

saerTod ar iyo namyofi, amitomac<br />

moeCvena ucnaurad misi vinaobiT<br />

laSa nacvliSvilis daintereseba.<br />

rogoc Cans, maT kargad<br />

icodnen r. g.-sa da fotoze aRbeWdili<br />

pirovnebis axlo megobrobis<br />

ambavi. swored amitomac<br />

laSa nacvliSvilma mas SesTavaza,<br />

_ gadmovides saqarTveloSi, garantiebsac<br />

mivcemT, gvinda, saqmeze<br />

davelaparakoT, gvemegobroso.<br />

r. g.-m zustad icoda, rom<br />

aRniSnuli pirovneba saqarTveloSi<br />

gadmosvlaze ar dasTanxmdeboda,<br />

radgan 2008 wlis ruseTsaqarTvelos<br />

omis dros maikopis<br />

batalionSi ibrZoda da senakis<br />

samxedro bazaSi SeWrili okupantebis<br />

aseulSi iricxeboda. laSa<br />

nacvliSvils es informacia ar<br />

hqonda da gaukvirda. iqneb, me<br />

damabaroT, ra saqme gaqvTo? _ SesTavaza<br />

nacvliSvils r. g.-m. _ nu<br />

iCqarebo, _ am sityvebiT ministris<br />

moadgilem kabineti datova.<br />

daaxloebiT naxevar saaTSi isev<br />

dabrunda, kaxa CixlaZes oTaxidan<br />

gasvla aniSna da saaTze met<br />

xans uxsnida, rom saqme, romelsac<br />

mas daavalebdnen, saidumlos<br />

Senaxvis aucileblobas moiTxovda.<br />

paralelurad, nacvliSvili<br />

telefoniT mesijobda. aT wuTSi<br />

oTaxSi gaufrTxileblad irakli<br />

RaribaSvili Sevida. laSa nacvliSvilma<br />

RaribaSvils uTxra, _<br />

Cveniania, yofili partizani da<br />

mebrZoli, soxumSi bevri dasayrdeni<br />

hyavs, TviTonac SeuZlia<br />

gadavides, rusebTan problema ar<br />

gaaCnia da erTad gazrdil afxaz<br />

megobrebTan kargi damokidebuleba<br />

aqvso. _ kargi, kargi Cvenc<br />

pativiscema ar movakloT da yuradReba<br />

mivaqcioTo. Ss ministri<br />

Cqarobda. fexze damdgarma laSa<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

nacvliSvils daabara: detalebi<br />

kargad gaiare, mTavaria Cawerao.<br />

karTan misuli RaribaSvili ukan<br />

dabrunda da r. g.-s hkiTxa, _ ra<br />

manqana gyavso? r. g.-s bankis valebis<br />

gamo manqana axali gayiduli<br />

hqonda. nacvliSvilma RaribaSvili<br />

gaacila da ukan dabrunebulma r.<br />

g.-s uTxra, _ xval saCuqars gimzadeben,<br />

jipi xom giyvarso?<br />

„qronika+” cxadia, Seecada<br />

gaerkvia, ra davaleba iyo aseTi<br />

levan Sonia<br />

ZviradRirebuli da ratom arse-<br />

bobda am davalebis misamarTiT<br />

Zalovani uwyebis pirveli pire-<br />

bis interesi, maSin roca saqme<br />

romelime konkretul saqmeze<br />

cru Cvenebis micemas ar iTvaliswinebda.<br />

_ es aris specdavale-<br />

ba, romelsac gansakuTrebuli<br />

sifrTxiliT unda moekidoo, _<br />

auxsna laSa nacvliSvilma r. g.-<br />

s.<br />

_ Cven daviwyebT Sens gamokiTxvas<br />

ruseTis kontrdazvervis<br />

polkovnikis, edik emimzades mkvlelobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, es<br />

faqti unda moyve, TiTqos yvelaferi<br />

ici, rom Seni megobris<br />

gakeTebulia qarTuli specsamsaxurebis<br />

davalebiT. raki faqti<br />

okupirebuli afxazeTis teritoriaze<br />

moxda, saqmec ki ar aRiZvreba,<br />

ubralod, es iqneba Seni<br />

vizitis mizezi „modulis” Senoba-<br />

Si erT-erT maRalCnosanTan, romelic<br />

Cveni TanamSromelia, ministris<br />

moadgilea. axla biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

davalebaa, am pirovnebis<br />

Camocileba kompromatebiTo, _<br />

auxsna laSa nacvliSvilma da pirvelad<br />

uxsena ministris moadgilis,<br />

gela xvedeliZis saxeli da<br />

gvari. gegmis Tanaxmad, r. g.-s xvedeliZesTan<br />

Sexvedra marto unda<br />

moeTxova, saubari unda gaeWianurebina,<br />

detalebis dakonkretebaSi<br />

dro unda moego. nacvliSvilma<br />

gela xvedeliZis foto aCvena<br />

da magidis ujridan aparatura<br />

amoiRo, romelic qurTukze<br />

unda daemagrebina. auxsna, rom<br />

saWiro iyo masTan pirispir dajdoma<br />

da xvedeliZis saxiT gada-<br />

Reba. qurTuki oTaxSi kaxa CixlaZem<br />

Seitana da manve ganumarta<br />

r. g.-s, rom faruli kamera qur-<br />

Tukis bolo Rilze damontaJdeboda.<br />

gaafrTxiles, rom qurTuks<br />

xeliT ar Sexeboda da xvedeliZesTan<br />

saubris teqstis Sinaarsic<br />

gadasces.<br />

laSa nacvliSvilis idea iyo,<br />

rom gela xvedeliZesTan saubari<br />

r. g.-s edik emimzades mkvlelobis<br />

garSemo unda daewyo, Semdeg<br />

ki saubarSi eTqva, rom galis<br />

raionis sofel fiCorSi aqubardiebis<br />

saxlSi ZviradRirebuli<br />

mosasmeni aparaturaa damontaJebuli<br />

da is qarTuli specsamsaxuris<br />

maRalCinosnebs exmareboda<br />

am aparaturis gadatanaSi. nacvliSvilis<br />

ganmartebiT, xvedeliZe<br />

am faqtiT dainteresdeboda. mTavari<br />

iyo, firze aRbeWdiliyo<br />

gela xvedeliZis am aparaturiT<br />

daintereseba.<br />

„qronika+” sakuTari arxebiT<br />

Seecada gadaemowmebina, namdvilad<br />

iyo Tu ara galis raionSi<br />

ZviradRirebuli mosasmeni aparatura?<br />

Cvenma wyarom Tavdacvis<br />

saministrodan dagvidastura,<br />

rom samxedro policias marTlac<br />

hqonda SesaZlebloba, okupirebul<br />

afxazeTSi rusebis gadaadgileba<br />

ekontrolebina, rom sofel<br />

fiCorSi erT-erT mitovebul<br />

saxlSi ara mosasmeni aparatura,<br />

aramed radio lokaciis sixSiris<br />

danadgari iyo damontaJebuli,<br />

romliTac okupantebis gadaadgileba<br />

kontroldeboda.<br />

gagrZeleba meeqvse gv.<br />

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neli vardiaSvili<br />

597 11 12 47<br />

advokatTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare,<br />

zaza xatiaSvili, arCevnebis irgvliv pirvel komentars<br />

akeTebs da eqskluziurad „qronika+”-s skandalur am-<br />

bebs uyveba.<br />

zaza xatiaSvili:<br />

_ Zalian cudad, samarcxvinod<br />

Catarda arCevnebi. ukve sakanonmdeblo<br />

katastrofaa, roca mmarTveli<br />

partia 48%-s iRebs da Sansi<br />

aqvs, rom sakonstitucio umravlesobiT<br />

movides. biZina politikaSi<br />

roca modioda, fics debda, rom<br />

aseT rames Secvlida, magram axla<br />

Tavadac gaakeTa. es iyo #1-li<br />

dapireba, romelic man ar Seasrula.<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, vfiqrob,<br />

rom es kaci aris samoqalaqo sazogadoebis<br />

ganviTarebisTvis saSiSi<br />

elementi _ rac SeeZlo, yvela xerxs<br />

mimarTa, raTa SeenarCunebina<br />

Tavisi gabatonebuli mdgomareoba.<br />

_ rogorc amboben, pirvel rig-<br />

Si, man moralurad da fizikura-<br />

dac gaanadgura politikuri<br />

Zalebi, es ras niSnavs, iqneb, ukeT<br />

auxsnaT mkiTxvels?<br />

_ diax, biZina ivaniSvilma paata<br />

burWulaZe, Salva naTelaSvili da<br />

irakli alasania sxvadasxva meTodiT<br />

gaanadgura. faqtobrivad,<br />

rasac akeTebda mixeil saakaSvili,<br />

man daiwyo amis kopireba. cxadia,<br />

gaxsovT mixeil saakaSvilis dakve-<br />

Tili kvlevebi rogorc cxaddeboda<br />

zarzeimiT da mere saarCevno<br />

komisiac cifrebs am dakveTili kvlevebidan<br />

gamomdinare svamda. bi-<br />

Zinam dainaxa, rom es meTodi kargad<br />

Wrida da esec gadaiRo Tavisive<br />

Seqmnili saakaSvilisgan, romelsac<br />

afinansebda da amas arc malavda.<br />

paata burWulaZe roca politikaSi<br />

Semovida, es biZinasTvis da,<br />

saerTod, bevrisTvis Sokismomgvreli<br />

iyo, amitomac „kargad momzadebuli”<br />

Sexvda „susi”. burWulaZem<br />

prezentacia Caatara, romelzec<br />

mimiwvia da veswrebodi. unda<br />

yofiliyo fondis prezentacia,<br />

magram movismine politikuri partiis<br />

prezentacia. ra Tqma unda,<br />

iq, albaT, „susis” warmomadgenelic<br />

eswreboda, an iseTi xalxi, vinc<br />

ambavs miutanda da dagegmes kidec,<br />

rogor unda ganadgurebuliyo es<br />

Zala. mas miugzavnes biznesmenebi,<br />

romlebic dahpirdnen, rom garkveul<br />

Tanxebs Seitandnen. Tavdapirvelad<br />

nawilma Seitana kidec<br />

fuli da paatam xalxis daqiraveba<br />

daiwyo. magaliTad, Cems sofelSi,<br />

tibaanSi, roca „nacionalebs” zeo-<br />

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bis periodSi 10 daqiravebuli<br />

koordinatori hyavdaT, paatas 30<br />

hyavda. es rom movismine, vifiqre,<br />

rom aucileblad gaimarjvebs-meTqi,<br />

radgan arCevnebis mosagebad<br />

didi mniSvneloba aqvs fuls. Tvis<br />

bolos, roca am xalxisTvis mas<br />

fuli unda gadaeca, aRmoCnda, rom<br />

biznesmenebi Sepirebuli dafinansebiT<br />

gaqrnen.<br />

_ ratom?<br />

_ imitom, rom „susi” kargad<br />

moemzada paata burWulaZis gasanadgureblad.<br />

burWulaZe forsma-<br />

JorSi Cavarda. xalxma yvirili<br />

daiwyo, _ es vin aris, matyuara,<br />

Cven mogvatyua da xalxs ras uzamso?!<br />

paata namdvilad ar aris<br />

matyuara, is Zalian wesieri adamiania,<br />

magram politikurad gamoucdeli<br />

iyo da caitnotSi aRmoa-<br />

Cines. swored am dros daukavSirda<br />

mas „girCi”. es „svla” iyo biZinas<br />

gegmis erT-erTi nawili. „girCi” am<br />

xalxis finansebis gastumrebas<br />

sTavazobda. „girCi”, realurad,<br />

kublaSvilis ideologiazea awyobili,<br />

is aris am partiis realuri<br />

xelmZRvanelic, saxec da aman gamoiwvia<br />

xalxis gaRizianeba. Sedegad,<br />

paatas reitingi 20%-dan 10-<br />

sa da 8-ze daeca, magram is, am procentiT,<br />

mainc moxvdeboda parlamentSi,<br />

rac biZina ivaniSvilis gegmebSi<br />

ar Sedioda da „girCi”, romelic<br />

paatas gverdiT unda yofiliyo,<br />

tovebs mas. 16 olqSi gadioda<br />

„girCi” da misma kandidatebma<br />

Tqves, rom arCevnebze ar gavidodnen.<br />

mainteresebs, 16 olqi rom<br />

CamoeWraT „ocnebisTvis”, anu rac<br />

„girCs” gaukeTes, is xom „nacionalebis”<br />

xmebamde Camovidoda? amiT<br />

imis Tqma minda, rom nebismieri<br />

partiisTvis es iqneboda katastrofa.<br />

Semdeg isic Zalian gamikvirda,<br />

paatam samnaxevari procenti<br />

rom aiRo da mainc kvalificiur<br />

partiad dafiqsirda, radgan, Cemi<br />

azriT, misi ganadgureba dakveTili<br />

iyo.<br />

paata burWulaZe, vfiqrob, gamovida<br />

am Sokidan da mixvda, biZinam<br />

rac gaukeTa. zog-zogierTiviT ar<br />

gaiqca politikidan da ganacxada,<br />

rom ibrZolebs, rac Zalian kargia.<br />

diax, visac azrovneba SeuZlia mixvdeba,<br />

rom paata burWulaZe, rogorc<br />

fexburTis burTs aTamaSeben,<br />

ivaniSvilma da „susma” ise aTamaSes<br />

da arc imas gamovricxav, rom<br />

am TamaSSi „nacmoZraobamac” miiRo<br />

monawileoba, raTa es axali da sufTa<br />

Zala, romelsac xalxi aucileblad<br />

gahyveboda, bolomde gaenadgurebinaT.<br />

kublaSvilebi iyvnen<br />

saqarTvelos damaqcevrebi da<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, paatas gauer-<br />

Tianes is xalxi, romelic yvelaze<br />

miuRebeli iyo sazogadoebisTvis.<br />

_ masTan is adamianebic xom<br />

iyvnen, romlebic sazogadoebisTvis<br />

miuReblebi ar brZandebod-<br />

nen, magram mere maTac miatoves<br />

partia. es ratomRa moxda?<br />

_ xaTuna lagaziZe Cemi megobaria,<br />

kargi urTierToba maqvs, magram<br />

vfiqrob, rom man araswori TamaSi<br />

iTamaSa. amjerad mxolod amas vityvi<br />

da sxvas _ arafers. metreveli<br />

Rirseuli kacia da imitom wavida,<br />

rom gaerTianeba moxda. Sei-<br />

Zleba, xaTunac imitom wavida, magram<br />

isic rom metreveliviT wasuliyo,<br />

eTqva, rom „girCTan” miuRebelia<br />

TanamSromloba, aucileblad<br />

masac gavugebdi, magram xa-<br />

Tunas gancxadeba, rom is bolomde<br />

ibrZolebda, raTa paata ar Sesuliyo<br />

parlamentSi, bevr rames<br />

mafiqrebinebs. magaliTad, imas,<br />

rom aseT Wkvian adamians ara mgonia,<br />

TavisiT gaekeTebina es. biZina<br />

ivaniSvilma aseve udidesi dartyma<br />

miayena irakli alasanias da,<br />

faqtobrivad, mTlianad gaanadgura<br />

igi.<br />

_ es rogorRa SeZlo?<br />

_ yvelaze mimzidveli politikuri<br />

Zala Cemnairad _ prodasavlurad<br />

moazrovne xalxisTvis, iyo<br />

alasania da is aucileblad miiRebda<br />

xmebis, minimum, 8-10%-s.<br />

roca biZinam pirvelad dainaxa,<br />

rom alasania Zalian Zlieri figura<br />

iyo da mas finansuradac ver<br />

CaZiravda, radgan amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebi, dasavleTi fiqrobdnen,<br />

rom misnairi lideri qveynisTvis<br />

saWiro iyo, „susis” daxmarebiT<br />

swored misi ojaxis wevrs<br />

daartya. yvelas axsovs, ra kadrebi<br />

atvirTes internetSi. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, sazogadoeba alasanias<br />

gverdiT dadga imitom, rom es iyo<br />

sibinZure. biZina amas ar elodeboda,<br />

is am kadrebisgan eloda sazogadoebis<br />

iseTive Soks, rogoric<br />

cixis kadrebis gamomzeurebis<br />

Semdeg moxda. amjerad xalxma es<br />

yvelaferi aRar daijera da Tqva,<br />

erTxel movida es kaci am kadrebiT<br />

da meored msgavsad veRar movao.<br />

zaza xatiaSvili:<br />

`ivaniSvilma<br />

mSvidi arCevnebi<br />

Caatara da<br />

mSvidad `damarxa~<br />

politikuri<br />

speqtri!~<br />

`advokati mamuka nozaZe iyrida kenWs gorSi da<br />

man miTxra, rom 150 yalbi piradoba iyo<br />

darigebuli. midioda es xalxi ubnebze da xmas<br />

aZlevdao. me did pativs vcem mamuka nozaZes, is<br />

marTali adamiania da vici, tyuils ar ityvis.<br />

yalb piradobebs iyenebdnen adeiSvilis,<br />

saakaSvilisa da SevardnaZis drosac, yalbi<br />

piradobebiT `karuselebs~ atrialebdnen, anu es<br />

saqarTvelos ubedureba iyo da am arCevnebSi<br />

gaormagebuli wesiT gamoiyenes. es arCevnebi<br />

garegnulad yvelaze mSvidi iyo, Torem...<br />

ivaniSvili Zalian eSmaki kacia, man dainaxa, rom<br />

xalxi gamwardeboda, rom gaeyalbebina, an<br />

siwynare ar yofiliyo, amitom man mSvidi<br />

arCevnebi Caatara da mSvidad `damarxa~<br />

politikuri speqtri. Tumca sadac icoda, rom<br />

gauWirdeboda, iq darbevac moxda~<br />

alasania aseve Zalian vaJkacurad<br />

moiqca, roca Tavdacvis ministroba<br />

daTmo da gverdiT daudga udanaSaulod<br />

dapatimrebul Tavis<br />

xalxs e. w. kabelebis saqmeze. es<br />

Jesti sazogadoebis TvalSi pozitivi<br />

iyo. amas ar gaakeTebda aTidan<br />

rva politikosi, alasaniam ki<br />

gaakeTa da misi aRzevebac daiwyo.<br />

reitingebiT alasania parlamentSi<br />

marTlac Sedioda da mas hyavs<br />

Zalian Zlieri, „ocnebaze” bevrad<br />

Zlieri gundi _ TiTqmis yvela<br />

politikis varskvlavi iyo. ivaniSvilma<br />

es rom dainaxa, aqeT-iqiT<br />

sirbili da Sexvedrebi daiwyo, sadac<br />

Tavdapirvelad lanZRavda da<br />

anadgurebda usufaSvilsa da alasanias.<br />

bolos, rogorRac mixvda,<br />

an miaxvedres, rom misi es voiaJebi<br />

„qarTuli ocnebisTvis” damangreveli<br />

iyo da politika Secvala. bi-<br />

Zina ivaniSvils, rogorc vici, Zalian<br />

Zlieri piarjgufebi hyavda<br />

Camoyvanili. swored am jgufebis<br />

rCeviT gaakeTa saintereso „svla”.<br />

radgan, Tavis droze, alasania misi<br />

partniori iyo, savaraudo prezidentobis<br />

kandidati da biZinam<br />

iqac gadaagdo. mas rom eTqva, is me<br />

axla „viyideo”, xalxs SeiZleboda,<br />

ar daejerebina, amitom, arCevnebamde<br />

4 dRiT adre, man uceb Secvala<br />

ritorika alasaniasTan mimarTebiT<br />

da ganacxada, rom alasania<br />

aris sakmaod Zlieri politikosi<br />

da Cemi informaciiT, „demokratebi”<br />

meore adgilze gadiano. alasania<br />

Zalian Zlieri politikosia,<br />

magram Tu amiT motyuvdeboda, namdvilad<br />

ar megona. ivaniSvilma 10-<br />

ianSi gaiara da 100-ianSi gaartya.<br />

alasania ver mixvda eSmakobas da<br />

gancxadeba ar gaakeTa, rac amis<br />

mere unda gaekeTebina.<br />

_ ra unda eTqva alasanias?<br />

_ mas unda eTqva, rom biZina<br />

aris mtarvali da mteri sazogadoebis,<br />

anu rasac igi ambobda,<br />

roca gadadga; rom is aris prorusuli<br />

Zala da xalxo, ar misceT<br />

xma prorusul Zalas. amis nacvlad,<br />

alasaniam Tqva, rom ivaniSvilma<br />

dainaxa Cveni realuri Zalao.<br />

amis mere misi gundic iwyebs<br />

sxva ritorikaSi saubars ivaniSvilTan<br />

mimarTebiT. iraklis realurad<br />

hyavda, daaxloebiT, 4-dan<br />

5%-mde mxardamWeri. minimum, amdenive<br />

neitraluri mxardamWeric<br />

hyavda, romelic unda misuliyo da<br />

alasaniasTvis mieca xma, radgan<br />

isini daupirispirdnen ivaniSvils,<br />

magram am neitralur amomrCevels<br />

STabeWdileba Seeqmna, rom alasania<br />

ivaniSvilTan garigda. is gadalaxavs<br />

zRvars, Seva parlamentSi,<br />

magram ivaniSvilTan garigebis gamo,<br />

amitom es xalxi an aRar wavida<br />

arCevnebze, andac alasanias aRar<br />

misca xma. ar megona, alasania Tu<br />

ver mixvdeboda, ivaniSvili rasac<br />

upirebda da am sieSmakes Taviseburad<br />

ar daupirispirdeboda. alasania<br />

ivaniSvilis satyuaras wamoego,<br />

romelic iyo daqiravebuli<br />

piarmenejerebis rCevis Sedegi da<br />

aRmoCnda kidevac gareT.<br />

_ alasanias partiis daSlasac<br />

ivaniSvils abralebT?<br />

_ ukve cxadia, rom „qarTuli<br />

ocneba” misi partiis wevrebTan<br />

zurgs ukan awarmoebda molaparakebebs.<br />

roca gemi iZireba, wesieri<br />

kapitani gemSi rCeba. es politikosebi<br />

Tu wesierebi iyvnen, biZinas<br />

gemSi ase uceb ver gadaxtebodnen.<br />

Cemi azriT, vinc alasanias partia-<br />

Si darCeba, mxolod is aRmoCndeba<br />

mamuka nozaZe<br />

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wesieri politikosi am gundSi da<br />

isini ar iyvnen garigebaSi ivaniSvilTan.<br />

romlebic wavlen, sazogadoebaSi<br />

Zalian uweso adamianebis<br />

statusi eqnebaT. diax, ivaniSvilma<br />

alasanias partia dauSala. roca<br />

mixvda, rom ivaniSvilma moatyua,<br />

politikidan wasvlaze miiRo gadawyvetileba.<br />

alasania patara bavSviviT<br />

motyuvda.<br />

_ „leiboristebis” SemTxvevSi<br />

ra moxda? maT sakmaod bevri mx-<br />

ardamWeri hyavdaT da yvela<br />

fiqrobda, rom isini aucileblad<br />

Sevidodnen parlamentSi. maTi<br />

arSesvlac sakanonmdeblo uwyeba-<br />

Si ivaniSvilis daqiravebuli pi-<br />

armenejerebis bralia?<br />

_ alasaniasTan erTad „leiboristebi”<br />

warmoadgens im Zalas,<br />

romelic ar gaurigda xelisuflebas.<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, leiboristuli<br />

partiac" erT-erTi ganadgurebis<br />

samizne aRmoCnda.<br />

arCevnebis win Salva naTelaSvili<br />

Zalian gawonasworebul kampanias<br />

awarmoebda. is aris qarTul politikur<br />

sivrceSi erT-erTi yvelaze<br />

gamorCeuli lideri, moswons es<br />

vinmes, Tu - ara. ubedureba mxolod<br />

is aris, rom meore "Salva<br />

naTelaSvili" ver ipova Tavis partiaSi.<br />

mas rom hyavdes meore<br />

"naTelaSvili", an adamiani politikosobis<br />

rangiT Tavisi naxevari<br />

mainc, rogorc alasanias hyavda,<br />

ufro meti mxardaWera eqneboda.<br />

miuxedavad amisa, is parlamentSi<br />

aucileblad unda Sesuliyo, radgan<br />

xalxma ase gadawyvita. Cemi<br />

qaliSvili, meri xatiaSvili, meubneboda,<br />

_ me rom 18 wlis viyo, Salvas<br />

mivcemdi xmas, me Sen ggavar da<br />

Senc mas mieci xmao. avuxseni, rom<br />

aravis vaZlev xmas imitom, rom<br />

Zalian cudi situacia iyo. biZinam<br />

iseTi rame gaakeTa, rom verc erTi<br />

ver gadalaxavs „nacmoZraobisa” da<br />

mis meti, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

arCevnebze ar waval-meTqi. me da<br />

Cemi coli arCevnebze ar wavediT<br />

imitom, rom azri ar hqonda, mainc<br />

igive Sedegi dadgeboda, rac bi-<br />

Zinas hqonda Cafiqrebuli.<br />

_ naTelaSvilTan mimarTebiT<br />

ra gaakeTa, kargad amixseniT.<br />

_ biZinas Salva ar uyvars, arc<br />

moswons, radgan, rogorc giTxariT,<br />

is aris Camoyalibebuli, ma-<br />

Rali rangis politikosi. biZinam<br />

roca dainaxa, rom naTelaSvili mainc<br />

Sedioda parlamentSi, piradad<br />

daiwyo „Savi piaris” agoreba. yvela<br />

Tavis gamosvlaSi mas „nacionals”<br />

eZaxda da ambobda, TiTqos<br />

is aris maRali donis korumpirebuli,<br />

_ mTavrobaSi ar iyo, magram<br />

gamdidrdao. es Zalian samarcxvino<br />

ram Tqva biZinam da Tavadac ver<br />

mixvda. aRiara, rom misi gundis<br />

wevrebi da TviTonac, mTavrobaSi<br />

rom iyvnen, gamdidrdnen, anu<br />

mTavrobaSi adamianebi mdidrdebian.<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, naTelaSvilis<br />

misamarTiT naTqvami es fraza<br />

qarTvelma amomrCevelma ar<br />

daijera. ivaniSvilma mainc rom<br />

veraferi gaakeTa, kidev ufro samarcxvinod<br />

moiqca da naTelaSvilis<br />

yofili gundis wevri _ SatberaSvili<br />

CarTo mis CasaZirad.<br />

darwmunebuli var, SatberaSvili<br />

TavisiT ar mividoda naTelaSvilis<br />

saxlTan bazaleTSi. merab metreveli<br />

imitom aris Rirseuli<br />

kaci, rom „paata burWulaZidan” wamovida<br />

da mxolod es Tqva, _<br />

CemTvis miuRebeliao. igive unda<br />

gaekeTebina „memarcxene alianss”.<br />

eTqvaT, Salva miuRebelia CvenTviso<br />

da wamosuliyvnen, magram maT<br />

fokusebi dadges. Salva naTela-<br />

Sivili milioneri gamoiyvanes da<br />

aqcia mouwyves saxlis win. amas<br />

daemata ramiSvilis gamoxtoma... es<br />

yvelaferi, Cemi azriT, „susis”<br />

scenaris nawili iyo. mec wamovsulvar<br />

saidanRac, magram gagigiaT,<br />

gancxadeba gamekeTebinos vinmes<br />

winaaRmdeg? vinc ase iqceva,<br />

yvelasTvis arasaTanado partniorebi<br />

iqnebian da wesieri politikuri<br />

partia maT arasodes gaekareba.<br />

moRalate aris yovelTvis<br />

moRalate, Sekruli aris _<br />

Sekruli.<br />

_ e. i. ambobT, rom Salva<br />

naTelaSvilmac gadal-<br />

axa barieri da gauyal-<br />

bes?<br />

_ Salvamac gadalaxa, bur-<br />

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`paata burWulaZe roca politikaSi Semovida, es biZinasTvis<br />

da, saerTod, bevrisTvis Sokismomgvreli iyo, amitomac<br />

`kargad momzadebuli~ Sexvda `susi~. burWulaZem prezentacia<br />

Caatara, romelzec mimiwvia da veswrebodi. unda yofiliyo<br />

fondis prezentacia, magram movismine politikuri partiis<br />

prezentacia. ra Tqma unda, iq, albaT, `susis~<br />

warmomadgenelic eswreboda, an iseTi xalxi, vinc ambavs<br />

miutanda da dagegmes kidec, rogor unda ganadgurebuliyo<br />

es Zala. mas miugzavnes biznesmenebi, romlebic dahpirdnen,<br />

rom garkveul Tanxebs Seitandnen. Tavdapirvelad nawilma<br />

Seitana kidec fuli da paatam xalxis daqiraveba daiwyo.<br />

magaliTad, Cems sofelSi, tibaanSi, roca `nacionalebs~<br />

zeobis periodSi 10 daqiravebuli koordinatori hyavdaT,<br />

paatas 30 hyavda. es rom movismine, vifiqre, rom<br />

aucileblad gaimarjvebs-meTqi, radgan arCevnebis mosagebad<br />

didi mniSvneloba aqvs fuls. Tvis bolos, roca am<br />

xalxisTvis mas fuli unda gadaeca, aRmoCnda, rom<br />

biznesmenebi Sepirebuli dafinansebiT gaqrnen~<br />

nino burjanaZe<br />

`leiboristuli partiac" erT-erTi<br />

ganadgurebis samizne aRmoCnda. arCevnebis win<br />

Salva naTelaSvili Zalian gawonasworebul<br />

kampanias awarmoebda. is aris qarTul<br />

politikur sivrceSi erT-erTi yvelaze<br />

gamorCeuli lideri, moswons es vinmes, Tu -<br />

ara. ubedureba mxolod is aris, rom meore<br />

"Salva naTelaSvili" ver ipova Tavis partiaSi.<br />

mas rom hyavdes meore "naTelaSvili", an<br />

adamiani politikosobis rangiT Tavisi<br />

naxevari mainc, rogorc alasanias hyavda,<br />

ufro meti mxardaWera eqneboda. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, is parlamentSi aucileblad unda<br />

Sesuliyo, radgan xalxma ase gadawyvita~<br />

WulaZemac, nino burjanaZemac. 5-<br />

dan 7 saaTamde imdeni amomrCeveli<br />

rom misuliyo, rogorc aisaxa,<br />

ubnebze didi rigebi unda mdgariyo,<br />

rogorc es iyo diliT. Tanac,<br />

me vici, rom es rigebic specialurad<br />

Seqmnes, radgan sakmaod gaugebrad,<br />

viTom anbanis mixedviT iZaxebdnen<br />

xalxs, sinamdvileSi ki maT<br />

aferxebdnen da rigis imitacias qmnidnen.<br />

diliT ramdeni amomrCevelic<br />

mivida, imdeni fiqsirdeboda<br />

5-dan 7 saaTamde. aqedanac Cans,<br />

rom raRac moxda.<br />

li. midioda es xalxi ubnebze da<br />

xmas aZlevdao. me did pativs vcem<br />

mamuka nozaZes, is marTali adamiania<br />

da vici, tyuils ar ityvis.<br />

yalb piradobebs iyenebdnen adeiSvilis,<br />

saakaSvilisa da SevardnaZis<br />

drosac, yalbi piradobebiT „karuselebs”<br />

atrialebdnen, anu es<br />

saqarTvelos ubedureba iyo da am<br />

arCevnebSi gaormagebuli wesiT<br />

gamoiyenes. es arCevnebi garegnulad<br />

yvelaze mSvidi iyo, Torem...<br />

ivaniSvili Zalian eSmaki kacia, man<br />

dainaxa, rom xalxi gamwardeboda,<br />

rom gaeyalbebina, an siwynare ar<br />

yofiliyo, amitom man mSvidi<br />

`burjanaZem sakuTar Tavs Cautara Casatarebeli.<br />

nino aris Cemi megobari da Zalian miyvars,<br />

magram Cven sxvadasxva politikuri Sexedulebebi<br />

gvaqvs. me var mkveTrad prodasavluri, nino -<br />

mkveTrad prodasavluri ar aris. minda giTxra,<br />

rom nino burjanaZe saqarTveloSi mimaCnia<br />

premier-politikosad, magram is daabnia iman,<br />

rom man 10%-ze meti miiRo adgilobriv<br />

arCevnebze. mas iluzia gauCnda, rom igive<br />

Sedegs aiRebda, Tu biZina ivaniSvils ar<br />

daupirispirdeboda. xalxis xmebi ganawilebuli<br />

iyo ivaniSvilsa da saakaSvilze. adamianebi,<br />

romlebic ar midiodnen arCevnebze, maTi xmebi<br />

viRacas unda miezida~<br />

arCevnebi Caatara da mSvidad „damarxa”<br />

politikuri speqtri. Tumca<br />

sadac icoda, rom gauWirdeboda,<br />

iq darbevac moxda.<br />

_ nino burjanaZesac gaunadgura<br />

partia? mas ra fokusi Cautara,<br />

parlamentSi rom ver SeaR-<br />

wia?<br />

_ nino burjanaZes veraferi Cautara.<br />

burjanaZem sakuTar Tavs<br />

Cautara Casatarebeli. nino aris<br />

Cemi megobari da Zalian miyvars,<br />

magram Cven sxvadasxva politikuri<br />

Sexedulebebi gvaqvs. me var<br />

mkveTrad prodasavluri, nino _<br />

mkveTrad prodasavluri ar<br />

aris. minda giTxra, rom nino<br />

burjanaZe saqarTveloSi<br />

mimaCnia premier-politikosad,<br />

magram is daabnia<br />

iman, rom man 10%-ze<br />

meti miiRo adgilobriv<br />

arCevnebze. mas<br />

iluzia gauCnda, rom<br />

igive Sedegs aiRebda,<br />

Tu biZina ivaniSvils<br />

ar daupirispirdeboda.<br />

xalxis<br />

xmebi ganawilebuli<br />

iyo ivaniSvilsa<br />

da saakaSvilze.<br />

adamianebi,<br />

romlebic ar midiodnen<br />

arCevnebze,<br />

maTi xmebi viRacas<br />

unda miezida. nino burjanaZes is<br />

rom gaekeTebina, rasac alasania<br />

akeTebda, unda dapirispirdeboda<br />

„ocnebas”, romelic aris „nacmoZraoba<br />

2". Secdoma dauSva, es<br />

rom ar gaakeTa.<br />

aseve burjanaZis udidesi Sec-<br />

paata burWulaZe<br />

_ ra moxda?<br />

_ advokati mamuka nozaZe iyrida<br />

kenWs gorSi da man miTxra, rom<br />

150 yalbi piradoba iyo darigebu-<br />

doma iyo da alasaniasic, rom marto<br />

damtoves „murusiZeebis” winaaRmdeg<br />

brZolaSi. burjanaZes, alasanias<br />

davureke da vuTxari, _<br />

TqvenTvis xom miuRebelia murusiZe,<br />

gaverTiandeT „murusiZeebis”<br />

winaaRmdeg-meTqi. am sakiTxze Sexvedra<br />

rom gavmarTe da yvela<br />

politikuri Zala Sevkribe, iq aseve<br />

movidnen irma inaSvili, „leiboristebidan”<br />

_ giorgi gugava. anu<br />

me davukavSirdi partiebs, romlebzec<br />

vicodi, rom arCevnebis sworad<br />

warmarTvis SemTxvevaSi yvelani<br />

Sediodnen parlamentSi, magram<br />

isini ar gamomyvnen murusiZesTan<br />

brZolaSi. am adamians ki biZina icavda.<br />

irma inaSvilma, ggoniaT, 5%<br />

miiRo? man, minimum, 9-10% aiRo,<br />

magram Zlivs gadaalaxines barieri.<br />

_ murusiZesTan ubrZolvelobam<br />

ra roli iTamaSa, amiT ra Se-<br />

icvala am arCevnebis dros?<br />

_ vambobdi, rom Tu murusiZe<br />

dasWirdeboda „qarTul ocnebas”,<br />

is mas aucileblad gamoiyenebda,<br />

radgan saapelacio sasamarTloSi<br />

mas swored is ganyofileba Caabares,<br />

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daSinebebis meqanizmi<br />

sososeuli TeoriiT...<br />

adamianTa didi nawili, umetesad,<br />

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SiSia upiratesi, „susic” im meqanizmiT<br />

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soflis warmomadgenlebs ki „susidan”<br />

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moZraoba” verc erT deputats<br />

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ZaRlia, radgan 8 deputatis gayvana<br />

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moZraobam” ubnebze upiratesobebic<br />

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iyo, magram kabali mTlad moulodneli<br />

aRmoCnda.<br />

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bi, vTqvaT da, gaaneitraloT?!<br />

_ ganeitraleba ar sWirdebaT,<br />

unda mividnen da xma miscen „ocnebas”.<br />

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Tavi.<br />

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_ premia, ara ixvi?! ra gaakeTeT<br />

sapremio?! mosmeniT ver ismenT!<br />

saqmiT saqmes ver mikeTebT!<br />

da yvelaferi marto Cemi gasakeTebelia...<br />

P. S. amboben, gomelaurze<br />

metad gogaSvili dedamiwis<br />

zurgze aravis ejavrebao...<br />

7


mariam balanCivaZe<br />

orTviani saarCevno kampaniis<br />

Semdeg mcxeTis maJoritari dep-<br />

utatobis kandidati, dimitri<br />

xundaZe, dumils arRvevs da<br />

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tervius aZlevs: „me Cems poli-<br />

tikur momavals gadavxedav da<br />

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parlamentSi!”<br />

_ batono dimitri, aqamde<br />

Tqveni saxeli JRerda batoni<br />

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_ jandacva da socialuri<br />

sfero im periodSi erT-erTi<br />

yvelaze problemuri sfero iyo.<br />

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gamocdileba ar gamaCnda.<br />

swored amitom vuTxari uari. batoni<br />

biZina im dRes daviTanxme<br />

da saRamos ukve ojaxsac vaxare,<br />

rom vixsnidi amxela pasuxismgeblobas,<br />

davrCebodi Cveulebriv<br />

deputatad da gavakeTebdi im<br />

saqmes, rasac namdvilad SevZlebdi,<br />

magram meore dRes, CemTvis<br />

sruliad moulodne-<br />

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aqedan gamomdinare, uari<br />

aRar miTqvams. me da daviT sergeenkos<br />

ramdenimewliani megobroba<br />

gvakavSirebs. Tanamdebobrivadac<br />

kargi urTierToba Camogviyalibda<br />

da erTad, SeTanxmebulad<br />

vwyvetdiT Zalian bevr<br />

problemur sakiTxs. aqamde sakanonmdeblo<br />

sferoSi muSaoba<br />

CemTvis ucxo iyo, Tumca, vfiqrob,<br />

rom komitetis muSaoba<br />

bis Sesaxeb icis Cemma gundma,<br />

xalxma da sxvaTa Soris, saerTa-<br />

Soriso organizaciebma, visTanac<br />

vTanamSromlobdiT am xnis<br />

manZilze. Zalian bevr kanonproeqtSi<br />

maqvs monawileoba miRebuli.<br />

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miiRes da araerTi koncefcia<br />

SevimuSave. sayovelTao jandacvis<br />

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mec var. sanam proeqti<br />

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Sevide Tu ara<br />

parlamentSi!~<br />

xarT. politikosad Tqveni<br />

Camoyalibeba Tqvenive survili<br />

iyo Tu ivaniSvilis?<br />

_ politikaSi wasvla Cemi survili<br />

ar yofila. 2012 wels batonma<br />

biZinam mTxova, rom vinme<br />

SemerCia mcxeTidan. bevri ganvixileT,<br />

magram ver SevarCieT da<br />

bolos mTxova, iqneb, Sen Cadgeo.<br />

Cemi reaqcia kategoriulad<br />

uaryofiTi iyo, magram bolos<br />

mainc damiTanxma da mec es tvir-<br />

Ti aviRe. Semdeg iyo komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomaris Tanamdebobis SemoTavazeba<br />

isev batoni biZinasgan,<br />

razec Tavidanve uari vTqvi.<br />

roca televiziiT Sevityve, rom<br />

jandacvis komitetis Tavmjdomared<br />

viyavi wardgenili, pirveli<br />

rac gavakeTe, davureke baton<br />

biZinas da Sexvedra vTxove.<br />

vestumre saxlSi da avuxseni,<br />

rom ar mqonda sakmarisi gamocdileba<br />

imisTvis, rom aseT seriozul<br />

da sapasuxismgeblo saqmes<br />

Cavdgomodi saTaveSi. Cemma poziciam<br />

batoni biZina gaakvirva da<br />

dasZina, rom es iyo pirveli<br />

SemTxveva, rodesac politikosebidan<br />

viRac Tanamdebobaze uars<br />

eubneboda.<br />

_ Tqven profesiiT eqimi br-<br />

ZandebiT da es sfero TqvenTvis<br />

ucxo namdvilad ar gaxldaT.<br />

sinamdvileSi, ra iyo uaris Tq-<br />

mis mizezi?<br />

lad, batonma biZinam mi-<br />

Txra, _ miuxedavad Cveni<br />

guSindeli SeTanxmebisa,<br />

am saqmeSi sando adamiani<br />

mWirdeba da me Sen gendobio.<br />

rasakvirvelia,<br />

winaaRmdegi wavedi, magram dampirda,<br />

rom am Tanamdebobaze mxolod<br />

axal wlamde davrCebodi da<br />

Semdeg Semcvlels mominaxavda.<br />

_ arada, musirebs azri, rom<br />

SeuZlebelia, biZina ivaniSvils<br />

vinmem uari uTxras, an man<br />

gaiTvaliswinos vinmes uari...<br />

_ es ar aris simarTle. biZina<br />

ivaniSvili yvelas azrs iTvaliswinebs.<br />

me mas aT weliwadze metia,<br />

vicnob da masTan mxolod<br />

profesiul-saqmiani urTierToba<br />

ar makavSirebs. Tavdapirvelad<br />

Cveni urTierToba daiwyo,<br />

rogorc eqimisa da pacientis,<br />

romelic droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />

megobrobaSi gadaizarda. swored<br />

aqedan gamomdinare iyo, rom<br />

rodesac mTxova, jandacvis komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomare vyofiliyavi,<br />

mxolod im pirobiT dav-<br />

Tanxmdi, rom Tanamdebobaze<br />

wlis bolomde davrCebodi. magram<br />

axali wlis mere batonma<br />

biZinam isev mTxova, rom misi Cemdami<br />

ndobisa da Cemi saqmisadmi<br />

erTgulebis gamo komiteti<br />

ar dametovebina.<br />

Cemi pirovnuli Tvise-<br />

`qalaq mcxeTasa da mis raionSi cezar CoCelis<br />

gubernatorobis periodSi gasxvisda 5<br />

milioni kv.m. miwa. am miwebTan dakavSirebiT<br />

interesi hqonda, ZiriTadad, CoCelis axlo<br />

wres: ojaxis wevrebs, misi gubernatorobis<br />

dros Zvel gamgeblebs, rwmunebulebsa da a. S.<br />

daaxloebiT, 6-7-kaciani jgufia. maT xelSia<br />

gavlili 5 milionamde kv.m. miwa. marto erT<br />

dReSi gasxvisebulia milion naxevarze meti<br />

kvadratuli farTobi niCbisSi. am miwebze<br />

dRemde araferi gakeTebula, iseve rogorc<br />

araferi gakeTebula saguramos mxares.<br />

CoCelis gubernatorobis periodSi mcxeTis<br />

raioni saxnav-saTesis gareSe darCa~<br />

produqtiuli gaxldaT. Zalian<br />

bevri ram viswavle komitetis<br />

wevrebisgan da aparatSi dakompleqtebuli<br />

profesionali kadrebisgan.<br />

ministri da komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomare SeTanxmebulad<br />

viRebdiT gadawyvetilebebs da<br />

swored es gaxldaT Cveni sferos<br />

warmatebis formula.<br />

_ Tqveni oponentebi Tqvens<br />

maSindel saqmianobas kritiku-<br />

lad afaseben da bralad gdeben,<br />

rom konkretulad Tqven araf-<br />

eri gagikeTebiaT.<br />

_ Cemi sakanonmdeblo muSao-<br />

cezar CoCeli<br />

ovelTao jandacvis proeqtis<br />

modificirebuli meTodis SemuSavebis<br />

mizniT. estoneTSi am<br />

modelis avtors SevxvdiT, baton<br />

meniks da vTxoveT, CvenTvis konsultacia<br />

gaewia, raTa saqarTveloSic<br />

danergiliyo es sistema.<br />

batonma menikma uari gviTxra im<br />

motiviT, rom naxevar weliwadSi<br />

aseTi seriozuli proeqtis ganxorcieleba<br />

SeuZlebeli iqneboda<br />

da mas erTi weliwadic ar eyofoda<br />

mosamzadeblad. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, Cven es mainc SevZeliT<br />

da zustad naxevar weliwadSi<br />

SevZeliT saqarTveloSi jandacvis<br />

sayovelTao programis amuSaveba.<br />

batoni meniki TviTonac<br />

iyo saqarTveloSi Camosuli da<br />

vfiqrob, estonuri mxaris aRmasrulebelma<br />

xelisuflebam sakmaod<br />

saintereso samuSaoebi Caatara.<br />

saboloo jamSi Cven mivi-<br />

ReT programa, romelmac gadaarCina<br />

Zlian bevri sicocxle. vinaidan<br />

me paralelurad mcxeTis<br />

maJoritari viyavi, am periodSi<br />

mxolod sayovelTao<br />

jandacvis<br />

programidan mcxeTaSi<br />

16 aTasze meti operacia<br />

dafinansda. es<br />

aris, praqtikulad,<br />

yoveli meoTxe adamiani.<br />

2012 wels<br />

mcxeTis mosaxleobis<br />

janmrTelobaze<br />

daixarja<br />

770 aTasi<br />

lari, xolo<br />

2015-2016 wleb-<br />

Si 8 milionze<br />

meti, anu 4 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi 18-<br />

dan 20 milion<br />

laramde daixarja<br />

mcxeTis mosaxleobis<br />

Si gakeTda is, rac arasodes gakeTebula<br />

bolo 30 wlis man-<br />

Zilze.<br />

_ amboben, rom „qarTu bank-<br />

idan” winasaarCevnod gamotanil<br />

iqna erTi milioni lari, said-<br />

anac 700 aTasi gamoiyo mxolod<br />

dimitri xundaZis saarCevno kampaniisTvis<br />

da miuxedavad amxe-<br />

la danaxarjisa, meore turi<br />

mainc dainiSna. es Tanxa CagericxaT,<br />

Tu xelze mogcaT baton-<br />

ma biZina ivaniSvilma?<br />

_ Tqven ki seriozulad mekiTxebiT,<br />

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es aris Cemi oponentebis<br />

fantaziis nayofi da TviTonac<br />

kargad ician, ramxela sicruea es<br />

yvelaferi. es mxolod imisTvisaa<br />

gamiznuli, rom Cem garSemo<br />

negatiuri foni Seqmnan.<br />

_ anu 700 aTasi TqvenTvis<br />

mTavrobas ar moucia?<br />

_ saarCevno kodeqsSi pirdapir<br />

weria da es kanonmdeblobiT<br />

aris gansazRvruli, rom nebismier<br />

partias SeuZlia, sesxis saxiT<br />

aiRos bankidan Tanxa. mogebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi biujeti im partias<br />

Tanxas uxdis, magram Tu ver moigo,<br />

partia valdebulia, Tanxa<br />

ukan daabrunos. anu es aris is<br />

Tanxa, romelic „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />

bankidan aiRo da sesxis<br />

saxiT gamoitana.<br />

_ e. i. marTla aiRo?<br />

_ diax.<br />

_ da 700 aTasi misces dimi-<br />

tri xundaZes?<br />

_ ara, ra Tqma unda! es Tanxa<br />

gadanawilda 73 olqze da 700<br />

aTass me rogor momcemdnen?<br />

Zalian advili gasagebia, Tu ra<br />

Tanxebi wavida mcxeTaze, imitom<br />

rom yvelaferi partiis angariSfaqturebSia<br />

aRricxuli. Segi-<br />

8 N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.


ZliaT mimarToT partias da<br />

amaze dawvrilebiT gipasuxeben.<br />

Cven kanons ar varRvevT da dafarulic<br />

araferi gvaqvs. es aris<br />

oficialuri monacemebi. Tqven<br />

rom mcxeTaSi gaiaroT, moismenT<br />

imas, rom fuli CoCelma daxarja,<br />

magram ver moismenT imas, rom<br />

xundZe fuls xarjavdao.<br />

_ miwebTan agorebul skan-<br />

dalze ras ityviT, rodesac<br />

saubari iyo Tqveni deputato-<br />

bis dros gasxvisebul nakveTe-<br />

bze? gvarsac dagisaxelebT: er-<br />

Tma pirovnebam, 21 wlis biWma,<br />

gvarad isaxanaSvilma, didi rao-<br />

denobis miwa SeiZina mcxeTis ra-<br />

ionSi.<br />

_ es iyo ekonomikis saministros<br />

miwebi da man gaasxvisa igi.<br />

me mxolod gasxvisebis Semdeg<br />

Sevityve. aranairi kanondarRveva<br />

ar fiqsirdeba, vinaidan es gaxlavT<br />

pirobadebuli gasxviseba<br />

sainvesticio valdebulebiT.<br />

rodesac mosaxleobaSi am faqtma<br />

garkveuli azrTa sxvadasxvaoba<br />

gamoiwvia, me TviTon davinteresdi<br />

da es sakiTxi safuZvlianad<br />

Seviswavle. moviZie monacemebi<br />

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miwebi auqcioniT gasxvisda,<br />

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Tu mesakuTrem ver Seasrula<br />

sainvesticio valdebuleba,<br />

es miwebi saxelmwifos ubrundeba.<br />

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aseve, saguramos mxaris garkveuli<br />

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muSaoba, kaklis baRebia gaSenebuli,<br />

aseve unda aSendes ferma da<br />

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yvelaze saintereso is aris,<br />

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_ es ras niSnavs?<br />

_ es imas niSnavs, rom qalaq<br />

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CoCelis gubernatorobis periodSi<br />

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interesi hqonda, ZiriTadad, Co-<br />

Celis axlo wres: ojaxis wevrebs,<br />

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S. daaxloebiT, 6-7-kaciani jgufia.<br />

maT xelSia gavlili 5 mil-<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

`es iyo ekonomikis saministros miwebi da man<br />

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rodesac mosaxleobaSi am faqtma garkveuli<br />

azrTa sxvadasxvaoba gamoiwvia, me TviTon<br />

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Seviswavle. moviZie monacemebi da iq<br />

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Seasrula sainvesticio valdebuleba, es miwebi<br />

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garkveuli farTobi da iqac aris<br />

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yvelaze saintereso is aris, rom manamde<br />

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ionamde kv.m. miwa. marto erT<br />

dReSi gasxvisebulia milion naxevarze<br />

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araferi gakeTebula, iseve rogorc<br />

araferi gakeTebula saguramos<br />

mxares. CoCelis gubernatorobis<br />

periodSi mcxeTis raioni<br />

saxnav-saTesis gareSe darCa.<br />

_ Tqveni meuRle marTla<br />

iRebda demografiuli fondidan<br />

Tanxebs? gamoqveynda dokumentebi,<br />

saidanac viTom „demografiuli<br />

aRorZinebis fon-<br />

didan” 2 aTasi da meti Tanxaa<br />

Caricxuli Tqveni meuRlis an-<br />

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damfuZnebeli Tqvenc brZandeb-<br />

iT.<br />

_ Cemi meuRle ar muSaobs, is<br />

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romc muSaobdes, darRveva ar<br />

aris.<br />

_ ratom?<br />

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TviTon Sevitane ukan, rogorc<br />

Semowiruloba. meti xelfasi am<br />

fondidan ar gacemula. 3 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi fondi absoluturi<br />

qvelmoqmedebiT muSaobs<br />

da uamravi proeqti ganvaxorcieleT.<br />

Cemma meuRlem 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

aiRo 2.500 lari da me<br />

piradad fondSi Sevitane 6.000<br />

lari. am Temas wevs adamianTa<br />

jgufi, romelTa ukanac dgas<br />

milionobiT kvadratuli miwebis<br />

miTviseba da uamravi korufciuli<br />

sqema. nebismier dainteresebul<br />

pirs SeuZlia daiTvalos<br />

Cemi qoneba, dasamali araferi<br />

maqvs.<br />

_ ivaniSvilma JurnalistebT-<br />

an Sexvedraze ganacxada: „me<br />

damireka dito xundaZem da<br />

mkacrad misayvedura, rac Co-<br />

CelTan mimarTebiT ganvacxade.<br />

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Celi SemeSala onis maJoritar<br />

kandidatSi, gvarad enuqiZeSi.<br />

minda, sajarod bodiSi movuxado<br />

dito xundaZes da ganvacxado,<br />

rom is Cemi favoriti depu-<br />

tatia ara mxolod mcxeTaSi,<br />

aramed mTel politikur gund-<br />

Si”. batono dito, marTla us-<br />

ayvedureT biZina ivaniSvils?<br />

_ me TviTon davukavSirdi, imitom<br />

rom ver gavige, ra Tqva batonma<br />

biZinam da mindoda, situaciaSi<br />

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is, rom icnobda Tu ara cezar<br />

CoCels? biZina ivaniSvilma miTxra,<br />

_ vin aris CoCelio? da Cemi<br />

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rodesac misi „warmateba”<br />

mTelma qveyanam icis-meTqi? mere<br />

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rom deputatad davayeneTo? imitom,<br />

rom enuqiZec yofili gubernatori<br />

gaxldaT warsulSi.<br />

maSin mivxvdi, rom baton biZinas,<br />

ubralod, gvari aeria. isic adamiania,<br />

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didi madloba, rom Sematyobine<br />

da sazogadoeba SecdomaSi ar<br />

Seviyvaneo. meore dRes JurnalistebTan<br />

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rom erTi kandidatis gvari meoreSi<br />

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Tundac, mis uaxloes megobarze.<br />

simarTle giTxraT, mec<br />

msurs, bodiSi movuxado mas,<br />

Zalian gabrazebuli da dabneuli<br />

viyavi. Cven Soris aseTi saubari<br />

arasodes yofila. politikiT<br />

ar dawyebula Cveni urTier-<br />

Toba da megobroba da arc politikiT<br />

dasruldeba. biZina ivaniSvili<br />

CemTvis is pirovnebaa, romelic<br />

yvelaferze maRla dgas.<br />

_ batono dimitri, daniS-<br />

nulia meore turi, rogoria<br />

Tqveni prognozi?<br />

_ Cems oponentTan mimarTebiT<br />

vityvi erTs, rom is, rac ar iyideba<br />

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fulze, magram ar iyideba iseTi<br />

ram, risi fulze gayidvac ar<br />

SeiZleba. es daamtkica mcxeTam<br />

da mcxeTis raionma. mwams, rom<br />

devnilebic SiSs gadalaxaven. azerbaijanuli<br />

dasaxleba, sxvaTa<br />

Soris, Zalian aqtiuri iyo da<br />

vfiqrob, meore turSi xalxi metad<br />

mobilizebuli iqneba. bolos,<br />

minda ganvacxado: dRes saarCevnod<br />

kvlav CoCelis mxardam-<br />

Werebisgan musirebs azri, rom<br />

xundaZe siaSia da maJoritar kandidatad<br />

romc ver gavides, siiT<br />

mainc gasulia. ase rom, kargi<br />

iqneba, Tu mcxeTas eyoleba ori<br />

deputati CoCelisa da xundaZis<br />

saxiTo. CemTvis es yovlad dauSvebelia.<br />

rogorc CoCeli cdilobs<br />

Cems Canacvlebas, aseve Seecdeba<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” Canacvlebas<br />

„nacmoZraobis” korumpirebuli<br />

saxeebiT.<br />

Tuki mcxeTaSi gauTvaliswinebeli<br />

ram moxda, ar aris gamoricxuli,<br />

Cems politikur momavals<br />

gadavxedo da davfiqrde,<br />

miRirs Tu ara parlamentSi Sesvla,<br />

Tuki Cems qalaqsa da raions<br />

kvlav „nacebi” daepatronebian?!<br />

_ anu parlamentSi Tqvens<br />

Sesvlas kiTxvis niSnis qveS<br />

daay<br />

ayenebT?<br />

_ aucileblad!<br />

`biZina ivaniSvili yvelas azrs iTvaliswinebs. me mas aT weliwadze metia,<br />

vicnob da masTan mxolod profesiul-saqmiani urTierToba ar<br />

makavSirebs. Tavdapirvelad Cveni urTierToba daiwyo, rogorc eqimisa da<br />

pacientis, romelic droTa ganmavlobaSi megobrobaSi gadaizarda. swored<br />

aqedan gamomdinare iyo, rom rodesac mTxova, jandacvis komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomare vyofiliyavi, mxolod im pirobiT davTanxmdi, rom<br />

Tanamdebobaze wlis bolomde davrCebodi. magram axali wlis mere<br />

batonma biZinam isev mTxova, rom misi Cemdami ndobisa da Cemi saqmisadmi<br />

erTgulebis gamo komiteti ar dametovebina. Cemi pirovnuli Tvisebidan<br />

gamomdinare, me an vakeTeb saqmes, an saerTod xels ar vkideb, aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, uari aRar miTqvams. me da daviT sergeenkos ramdenimewliani<br />

megobroba gvakavSirebs. Tanamdebobrivadac kargi urTierToba<br />

Camogviyalibda da erTad, SeTanxmebulad vwyvetdiT Zalian bevr<br />

problemur sakiTxs. aqamde sakanonmdeblo sferoSi muSaoba CemTvis ucxo<br />

iyo, Tumca, vfiqrob, rom komitetis muSaoba produqtiuli gaxldaT.<br />

Zalian bevri ram viswavle komitetis wevrebisgan da aparatSi<br />

dakompleqtebuli profesionali kadrebisgan. ministri da komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomare SeTanxmebulad viRebdiT gadawyvetilebebs da swored es<br />

gaxldaT Cveni sferos warmatebis formula~<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

daviT sergeenko<br />

9


„iyo mwvave konfliqti da omi.<br />

axla me mgonia, rom ukve aRar<br />

aris samxedro moqmedebebi, ar<br />

aris msxvili incidentebi konfliqtis<br />

zonaSi, magram es arasakmarisia.<br />

situacia mTlad normaluri<br />

ar aris. rodesac engurs<br />

vkveT, vxedav, rom iq, raRacnairi,<br />

aranormaluri situaciaa.<br />

afxazeTi, garkveulwilad, izolaciaSi<br />

imyofeba. mgonia, rom<br />

afxazebi Cveni axlobeli eria,<br />

isini evropelebi arian, evropas<br />

ekuTvnian. yvelaferi unda gakeTdes<br />

evropasTan ufro cocxali<br />

urTierTobebis aRsadgenad. Cven<br />

viciT, rom es politikuri problemaa.<br />

aq yvelam unda SevitanoT<br />

wvlili, rom ufro normalur<br />

situaciaze gadavideT”, _ acxadebs<br />

bodeni. igi miiCnevs, rom<br />

afxazeTis izolaciis Sesacvlelad<br />

evropam gzebi unda gaxsnas.<br />

am Temaze „qronika+”-s eqsperti<br />

irakli cqitiSvili esaubre-<br />

ba:<br />

_ diter bodeni bolo wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi afxazebs evropul<br />

sazogadoebasTan Zalian did advokatirebas<br />

uwevs. es mis yvela<br />

saqmianobaSi gamoCnda, rasac ki<br />

eweoda. Cven gvaxsovs, rom wina<br />

xelisuflebam is, erTi periodi,<br />

persona non-gratadac ki gamoacxada,<br />

radgan Zalian cdilobda,<br />

afxazuri poziciebi gaeZlierebi-<br />

10<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

ra axali gzavnilebiT estumra<br />

gaeros generaluri mdivnis<br />

gaeros generaluri mdivnis<br />

gela mamulaSvili<br />

yofili specialuri warmomad-<br />

599 45 50 26<br />

geneli saqarTveloSi, diter<br />

bodeni (romelic soxumSi imyofe-<br />

boda), acxadebs, rom „afxazebi evropelebi arian da yvelaferi<br />

unda gakeTdes evropasTan ufro cocxali urTierTobebis aR-<br />

sadgenad”. rogorc bodenma „exo kavkazasTan” interviuSi Tqva,<br />

is afxazeTSi germanuli fondis „berghofis” miwveviT<br />

biografiul salonSi monawileobis mizniT Cavida da afxaze-<br />

Tis de faqto xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebsac Sexvda.<br />

irakli cqitiSvili:<br />

599 45 50 26<br />

na da sul sxva mimarTuleba mieca<br />

qarTul-afxazuri urTierTobebisTvis.<br />

faqtobrivad, es bolo<br />

gancxadeba mTeli im procesis<br />

gagrZelebaa, romelsac diter<br />

bodeni afxazur konfliqtTan mimarTebiT<br />

eweoda. me piradad es<br />

ar gamkvirvebia. ubralod, kidev<br />

erTxel dadasturda is, Tu ratom<br />

miiCneva sazogadoebis garkveul<br />

nawilSi diter bodeni afxazuri<br />

separatizmis erT-erT<br />

apologetad.<br />

_ es bolo gzavnili konkret-<br />

ulad ras iTvaliswinebs?<br />

_ misi gzavnili Semdegnairad<br />

ikiTxeba: rom afxazebs evropul<br />

sazogadoebaSi sakuTari Tavis<br />

warmosaCenad xeli unda Seewyos;<br />

rom es sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT<br />

unda moxdes. magaliTad: axla<br />

afxazebis winaSe problema dgas,<br />

rom TavianTi pasportebiT evropaSi<br />

ver xvdebian. vfiqrob, swored<br />

am Temaze iyo saubari. yvela<br />

Sexvedraze, maT Soris, JenevaSic,<br />

afxazuri mxare am sakiTxs wevs,<br />

rom afxazebs evropasa da aSS-Si<br />

mogzaurobisTvis sirTuleebi<br />

eqmnebaT, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

maT rusuli pasportebi aqvT. magram<br />

soxumSi gacemul pasporteb-<br />

Si maT vizebs ar urtyamen. amitom<br />

darwmunebuli var, swored<br />

amas exeboda diter bodenis gancxadeba,<br />

rom evropulma qveynebma<br />

am vizebTan dakavSirebiT<br />

`iyo mwvave konfliqti da omi. axla me<br />

mgonia, rom ukve aRar aris samxedro<br />

moqmedebebi, ar aris msxvili incidentebi<br />

konfliqtis zonaSi, magram es<br />

arasakmarisia. situacia mTlad<br />

normaluri ar aris. rodesac engurs<br />

vkveT, vxedav, rom iq, raRacnairi,<br />

aranormaluri situaciaa. afxazeTi,<br />

garkveulwilad, izolaciaSi imyofeba.<br />

mgonia, rom afxazebi Cveni axlobeli<br />

eria, isini evropelebi arian, evropas<br />

ekuTvnian. yvelaferi unda gakeTdes<br />

evropasTan ufro cocxali<br />

urTierTobebis aRsadgenad. Cven viciT,<br />

rom es politikuri problemaa. aq yvelam<br />

unda SevitanoT wvlili, rom ufro<br />

normalur situaciaze gadavideT~<br />

`saqarTvelos<br />

delegaciam<br />

kveri daukra<br />

ruseTis<br />

politikas~<br />

ufro damTmobi politika unda<br />

gaataron. meore: vfiqrob, am<br />

gancxadebiT bodeni evropas mouwodebs,<br />

afxazebis mimarT ufro<br />

metad gamgebi gaxdnen; ufro<br />

metad damTmobni iyvnen da xeli<br />

ar SeuSalon evropul gamofeneb-<br />

Si maT monawileobas da aqtivobebs.<br />

bodenis gancxadebis<br />

Sinaarsi swored ase ikiTxeba.<br />

_ magram misi pozicia ramde-<br />

nad gamomdinareobs okupaciis<br />

statusis problemidan?<br />

_ Cemi da, albaT, sazogadoebis<br />

udidesi nawilis pozicia is<br />

aris, rom yvela urTierToba,<br />

romelsac afxazuri mxare saer-<br />

TaSoriso sazogadoebasTan ganaxorcielebs<br />

(es evropa iqneba Tu<br />

aSS) saqarTvelos gavliT unda<br />

moxdes. swored es pozicia ukavia<br />

saqarTvelos bolo wlebia, am<br />

konfliqtebTan mimarTebiT.<br />

yvela is moqmedeba, romelsac<br />

Cven vaxorcielebT da adrec<br />

xorcieldeboda (es iyo lesepases<br />

dokumentebTan dakavSirebiT),<br />

swored imitom keTdeboda, rom<br />

afxazebisTvis fanjara qarTuli<br />

saxelmwifo yofiliyo, _ fanjara<br />

evropasa da amerikaSi.<br />

magram afxazebi yvelanairad<br />

cdiloben, gverdi auaron qarTvelebTan<br />

urTierTobas. miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom TavianTi pasportebiT<br />

arsad uSveben da yvelgan<br />

mxolod rusuli pasportebiT<br />

dadian, mainc maTTvis ufro prioritetulia,<br />

swored saqarTvelos<br />

gverdis avliT moxvdnen evropaSi,<br />

raTa dafiqsirdes, rom<br />

isini saqarTvelos nawili ar arian.<br />

Cveni politika piriqiTaa: rogorme<br />

yvelgan da yovelTvis unda<br />

davafiqsiroT, rom afxazebi<br />

saqarTvelos nawili arian.<br />

es ori mimarTuleba, Cveni da<br />

afxazebis, erTmaneTis sawinaaRmdegoa<br />

da aq saerTo ena ver gamoinaxa.<br />

ubralod, kargia, rom<br />

evropuli politika araRiarebis<br />

politikaa. es Cvens mimarTulebas<br />

emTxveva, Tundac, am savizo problemebiT<br />

(aseve sxva problemebiT,<br />

romlebic afxazebs evropaSi mogzaurobiT<br />

eqmnebaT), isini xels<br />

uwyoben, rom afxazebma saqarTvelos<br />

mxares gamoixedon. meore<br />

mxriv, es maTSi garkveul agresiulobas<br />

warmoqmnis.<br />

amitom es iseTi sakiTxi da<br />

problemaa, sadac, albaT, saerTo<br />

ver gamoinaxeba. am mimarTulebiT<br />

Cveni nebismieri daTmoba, garkveulwilad,<br />

maTi aRiarebis tolfasi<br />

iqneba, xolo maTgan nebismieri<br />

daTmoba da kavSirebi TbilisTan<br />

imis aRiareba iqneba, rom isini<br />

cnoben Tbilisis gavlenas afxazeTze.<br />

ase rom, es ori urTierTsawinaaRmdego<br />

sakiTxi Cven Soris<br />

yovelTvis idgeba.<br />

_ Tavad bodeni romeli evro-<br />

puli wreebis warmomadgenelia<br />

da ra kavSirebi aqvs TbilisTan<br />

da soxumTan?<br />

_ diter bodenis moqmedebebi<br />

ufro imaze metyvelebs, rom is<br />

daaxloebulia wreebTan, romlebzec<br />

seriozuli rusuli gavlenaa.<br />

es politika, rom afxazebi<br />

daukavSiron, gaacnon evropul<br />

sazogadoebas, swored rusuli<br />

politikis gagrZelebaa.<br />

iseve, rogorc ruseTi Jenevis<br />

molaparakebebze mudmivad iTx-<br />

10 N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.


294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

diter bodeni Tbilissa da soxums?<br />

ovs, rom afxazebs mieceT aSS-s<br />

vizebi imisTvis, rom isini wardgnen<br />

gaeros tribunaze da a. S. amitom<br />

diter bodenis mier SemoTavazebuli<br />

politika rusul gzavnilebTan<br />

garkveul Tanxvedra-<br />

Sia. Tan germanul sazogadoebaSi<br />

rusuli gavlena sakmaod seriozulia.<br />

vfiqrob, rom bodeni swored<br />

am jgufis warmomadgenelia.<br />

_ soxumsa da TbilisSi is,<br />

ZiriTadad, romel wreebs eyrd-<br />

noba?<br />

_ me ar vici, is ra wreebs eyrdnoba<br />

Tbilissa da soxumSi,<br />

rasakvirvelia, is iqaur de faqto<br />

xelmZRvanelobasTan urTier-<br />

Tobs.<br />

_ afxazebisTvis aSS-s vizebi<br />

axseneT, ramdenad seriozulia<br />

amaze aqcentis gakeTeba?<br />

_ saubaria ara afxazur<br />

pasportSi aSS-s vizebis Cartymaze,<br />

aramed aqcenti imazea, rom<br />

maT vizebs, isev da isev, rusul<br />

pasportebSi ar aZleven. im<br />

rusul pasportebSi, romlebic<br />

afxazeTis teritoriaze aris<br />

gacemuli. afxazebi swored am<br />

pasportebSi iTxoven, rom aSS-s<br />

vizebi Caurtyan da imogzauron.<br />

es, pirvel rigSi, imisTvis surT,<br />

rom gaeros tribunaze mosaxvedrad<br />

gamoiyenon. am mxriv aSS-s<br />

araRiarebis politika moqmedebs.<br />

viciT, rom aSS Cven strategiuli<br />

partnioria da misi politika<br />

am TvalsazrisiTac yovelTvis<br />

CvenTan TanxvedraSi iyo.<br />

albaT, garkveul pirebs mainc<br />

aZleven aseT vizebs, an, yovel<br />

SemTxvevaSi, iq xvdebian pasportebiT,<br />

romlebic afxazeTis teritoriaze<br />

ar aris gacemuli. magram<br />

afxazeTSi gacemul pasportebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT problemebi<br />

hqondaT. amitom es gancxadebebi<br />

swored am pasportebs exeboda da<br />

astamur taniam daazusta kidec,<br />

rom swored amaze iyo saubari.<br />

aSS-s elCis gancxadeba zogaddiplomatiuri<br />

iyo da pozicias<br />

gamoxatavda, rom SeerTebuli<br />

Statebi mxars uWers Cvens suverenitets<br />

da es pozicia ucvlelia.<br />

_ qarTulma delegaciam evro-<br />

sabWos saparlamento asambleaze<br />

ukrainul rezoluciebs mxari ar<br />

dauWira; garkveuli axsna-gan-<br />

martebebis miuxedavad, es damokidebuleba<br />

rogor SeiZleba, Se-<br />

fasdes?<br />

_ qarTuli delegaciis moqmedeba<br />

im politikis gagrZeleba<br />

iyo, romelsac bolo oTxi wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi vxedavT. adre yvela<br />

tribunaze, absoluturad yvela<br />

saerTaSoriso Sexvedraze,<br />

CvenTvis prioriteti swored<br />

konfliqturi sakiTxebi iyo; ruseTis<br />

agresia da is politika,<br />

romelic Cvens teritoriul<br />

mTlianobas exeboda; maT Soris,<br />

ukrainis Temac swored am Wril-<br />

Si ganixileboda. magram, am bolo<br />

dros, rogorc Cans, saqarTvelos<br />

sagareo politikaSi sxva prioritetebia.<br />

TviTon es moqmedeba<br />

ise Cans, rom saqarTvelos delegaciam<br />

kveri daukra ruseTis<br />

politikas, rodesac ukrainul<br />

mxares mxari ar dauWira.<br />

Tu kvaWantiraZis axsna-ganmartebebs<br />

davujerebT, isini Semdeg<br />

werilobiT SeuerTdnen da a.<br />

S. magram maT Riad ar daafiqsires<br />

ruseTisadmi winaaRmdegoba da es<br />

cudia saqarTvelosTvis. viciT,<br />

rom saqarTvelos dRevandeli<br />

mTavroba sxva politikas atarebs<br />

ruseTTan mimarTebiT, vidre wina,<br />

magram is saerTo interesi, romelic<br />

Cven da ukrainas gvaqvs,<br />

saerTo Rirebulebebi, romlis-<br />

Tvisac vibrZviT, SeuZlebelia,<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

`Cemi da, albaT, sazogadoebis udidesi<br />

nawilis pozicia is aris, rom yvela<br />

urTierToba, romelsac afxazuri mxare<br />

saerTaSoriso sazogadoebasTan<br />

ganaxorcielebs (es evropa iqneba Tu aSS)<br />

saqarTvelos gavliT unda moxdes. swored es<br />

pozicia ukavia saqarTvelos bolo wlebia, am<br />

konfliqtebTan mimarTebiT. yvela is<br />

moqmedeba, romelsac Cven vaxorcielebT da<br />

adrec xorcieldeboda (es iyo lesepases<br />

dokumentebTan dakavSirebiT), swored imitom<br />

keTdeboda, rom afxazebisTvis fanjara<br />

qarTuli saxelmwifo yofiliyo, - fanjara<br />

evropasa da amerikaSi. magram afxazebi<br />

yvelanairad cdiloben, gverdi auaron<br />

qarTvelebTan urTierTobas. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom TavianTi pasportebiT arsad uSveben da<br />

yvelgan mxolod rusuli pasportebiT dadian,<br />

mainc maTTvis ufro prioritetulia, swored<br />

saqarTvelos gverdis avliT moxvdnen<br />

evropaSi, raTa dafiqsirdes, rom isini<br />

saqarTvelos nawili ar arian. Cveni politika<br />

piriqiTaa: rogorme yvelgan da yovelTvis<br />

unda davafiqsiroT, rom afxazebi<br />

saqarTvelos nawili arian. es ori<br />

mimarTuleba, Cveni da afxazebis, erTmaneTis<br />

sawinaaRmdegoa da aq saerTo ena ver<br />

gamoinaxa. ubralod, kargia, rom evropuli<br />

politika araRiarebis politikaa~<br />

prioritetuli ar iyos. amitom<br />

prioritetulia mudmivad imis<br />

xazgasma, rom ruseTi agresoria<br />

da Cveni teritoriebi okupirebuli<br />

aqvs. sxvaTa Soris, swored am<br />

politikis gamo momravlda faqtebi,<br />

rodesac Cveni sagareo<br />

saqmeTa saministro post-faqtum<br />

reagirebs yvela im RonisZiebaze,<br />

romelsac soxumisa da cxinvalis<br />

separatistuli mTavrobebi atareben<br />

evropis qveynebSi. es exeba<br />

igive gamofenebSi monawileobas<br />

da a. S. verafriT dalagda is pozicia,<br />

rom es ar dauSvan da winaswar<br />

alagmon, mere rom ar iyos<br />

aRniSnul Temaze xmauri.<br />

amitom maTi post-faqtum moqmedeba<br />

mafiqrebinebs, rom es sakiTxi<br />

prioritetuli ar aris da<br />

mxolod maSin reagireben, roca<br />

sazogadoebaSi amaze garkveuli<br />

SeSfoTeba Cndeba. aris faqtebi,<br />

romlebic sazogadoebamde ar midis.<br />

rogorc Cans, sagareosTvis,<br />

ise zogadad mTavrobisTvis<br />

ufro prioritetuli ekonomikuri<br />

urTierTobebi gaxda, vidre<br />

es teritoriuli mTlianobis<br />

problemaa.<br />

diter bodeni<br />

_ ukrainasTan mimarTebiT<br />

koordinaciis aseTi tipis ac-<br />

denebi ras mogvitans?<br />

_ amis yvelaze naTeli magali-<br />

Ti ruseTis saxelmwifo dumis<br />

arCevnebi iyo. Cven viciT, rom es<br />

arCevnebi Catarda rogorc aneqsirebul<br />

yirimSi, aseve Cvens okupirebul<br />

afxazeTsa da cxinvalis<br />

regionSi. ukrainam imdeni<br />

SeZlo, rom yirimis sakiTxze mTeli<br />

msoflio aalaparaka. SeZlo<br />

is, rom bevrma saxelmwifom ganacxada,<br />

rom ar cnobs yirimSi<br />

Catarebul kenWisyras da iq ar-<br />

Ceul deputatebs. magram am procesSi<br />

arc erTxel, arsad, araferi<br />

Tqmula saqarTvelos Sesaxeb,<br />

Tu ar CavTvliT erT faratina<br />

gancxadebas, romelsac aranairi<br />

mniSvneloba ar aqvs da ufro<br />

imisTvis iyo gakeTebuli, rom<br />

Sida momxmarebeli daewynarebinaT.<br />

magram ase mainc ar moxda. sagareo<br />

saqmeTa saministros am mimarTulebiT<br />

raime sxva saqmianoba<br />

ar uwarmoebia. arc manamde,<br />

sanam es arCevnebi Catardeboda,<br />

arc imis mere, rac es kenWisyra<br />

Sedga.<br />

arada, savsebiT SeiZleboda,<br />

yirimis TemasTan erTad, afxazeT-<br />

Si Catarebuli arCevnebis legitimurobis<br />

sakiTxi damdgariyo,<br />

aseve cxinvalSi Catarebulis. e. i.<br />

afxazeTis teritoriaze saerTod<br />

aseTi ram moxda, _ acxadeben, Cven<br />

damoukideblebi varTo da, am<br />

dros, maTi xelisufleba ruse-<br />

Tis saxelmwifo dumis, anu sxva<br />

saxelmwifos deputatebs xmas<br />

aZlevda, irCevda. uxeSad rom<br />

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ritorika da okupanti<br />

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ver gadavwyvetT.<br />

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prioritetebia. TviTon es moqmedeba ise Cans,<br />

rom saqarTvelos delegaciam kveri daukra<br />

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romelic orive politikuri<br />

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saarCevno ubnebze dafiqsirda.<br />

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qarTuli parlamentarizmis nawili<br />

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batono murusiZe dasaxelda?<br />

amitom sruli nihilizmia arCevnebis<br />

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iloT?<br />

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zogierT politikur subieqts<br />

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aqvs. CemTvis es moulodneloba<br />

iyo, magram faqti jiutia.<br />

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iqneba marTuli. „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” es meore nawili ufro<br />

konstruqciul saqmianobas Se-<br />

Zlebs saparlamento sivrceSi. imedi<br />

maqvs, rom saxelisuflebo<br />

politikuri Zalis mudmivi lanZRva<br />

aRar iqneba erTaderTi Tema<br />

saparlamento arsebobisa wlebis<br />

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rogorc cocxal Zalas, romelsac<br />

mxolod erTaderTi funqcia eqneba,<br />

_ yuTSi biuletenis Cagdeba.<br />

12<br />

`aravisTvis saidumlo aRar aris, ra rols TamaSobs<br />

batoni biZina winasaarCevnod da TviTon saarCevno<br />

procesSic. rac unda Tavmdabluri iyos misi<br />

Sefasebebi sakuTari Tavis, Znelad dasajerebelia<br />

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ivaniSvilis uzarmazar rols ar acnobierebdnen;<br />

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asze meti parlamentari hyavdes `qarTul ocnebas~. es<br />

imisTvis, rom saqarTvelos prezidenti miWirxvnos,<br />

radgan ganvlili wlebis manZilze misi privatizacia<br />

ver moxerxda. da axla warmogvidgenen iseT xelis<br />

biWs erTi Cveni rigiTi moqalaqisas, romelic sul<br />

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mxolod prezidentis saqmianobaze, aramed im<br />

Senobasac xels miawvdens, rasac dRes prezidentis<br />

sasaxle hqvia. sul male mas, SeiZleba, funqcia<br />

Seecvalos da kerZo sakuTrebis sagani gaxdes~<br />

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dari kadri hyavdes parla-<br />

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nia.<br />

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ore turSi Seicvalos?<br />

_ SesaZlebelia Seicvalos,<br />

Tu sazogadoebis is nawili,<br />

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Cvenma kandidatebma<br />

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eTanxmebiT Tu ara eqsprezden-<br />

tis am mosazrebas?<br />

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suraTi eqneboda imasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, Tu ramdeni dar-<br />

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xalxis nebis gamomxatveli<br />

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gamomxatveli arCevani. es unda<br />

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iSnebelia?<br />

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„daTvs babaia dauZaxe” principiT<br />

moqmedeben. amitom yvela<br />

mimarTulebiT vagebT da yvela<br />

14<br />

biZina ivaniSvili<br />

`rodesac strategiul partniors, romelsac<br />

Sennairi problema aqvs, gverdiT ar udgaxar,<br />

naTelia, rom amiT TviTizolacia xdeba, rac,<br />

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_ es ideac nakarnaxevia, mxolod<br />

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ubralod, am adamians miaCnia,<br />

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TviTizolacia xdeba, rac, upirvelesad,<br />

okupanti qveynis interesia.<br />

xSirad miTqvams, _ Cem-<br />

Tvis sulerTia, biZina ivaniSvils<br />

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aqvs da „feesbesTan” mis<br />

TanamSromlobaze sadme kartoTekaSi<br />

sabuTi devs Tu ara,<br />

realurad, rasac is akeTebs, Cemi<br />

azriT, pirdapir putinis gegmis<br />

Sesrulebaa am qveyanaSi.<br />

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- mas gundic Zlieri hyavda da<br />

mxolod ivaniSvilis dagebuli maxis<br />

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romelic erTi kviris Seqmnilia da<br />

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Tu igives gaagrZelebs, igives davuZaxeb.<br />

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qveyana, sadac XXI saukunis faSizmi<br />

ganaviTara, es ki feodalurs avi-<br />

Tarebs.<br />

irakli alasania<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

`yvelaze mimzidveli politikuri Zala Cemnairad - prodasavlurad<br />

moazrovne xalxisTvis, iyo alasania da is aucileblad miiRebda xmebis,<br />

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moxda. amjerad xalxma es yvelaferi aRar daijera da Tqva, erTxel<br />

movida es kaci am kadrebiT da meored msgavsad veRar movao~<br />

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kompaniam, ubralod, Tavisi mravalnacadi xerxi gamoiyena. igi,<br />

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dargobrivi profkavSirebis legitimaciis xarisxi Seasustos,<br />

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es iyo joni rTvelaZis preskonferenciis Catarebisa da mis mier<br />

gakeTebuli gancxadebebis realuri mizezi~<br />

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`me vpasuxob kompania `aremji golds~ da ara am kompaniis aw ukve yofil<br />

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rom `xelisuflebasTan mogvarebuli biznesi~ ar niSnavs imas, rom am<br />

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irakli petriaSvili<br />

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rTvelaZis preskonferenciis Catarebisa<br />

da mis mier gakeTebuli<br />

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_ joni rTvelaZe profkavSirebis<br />

Tavmjdomare irakli petriaS-<br />

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#87 konvencia.<br />

kompaniam ar Seasrula 2014<br />

wlis Tebervlis gaficvis dros<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

profkavSirTan dadebuli SeTanxmeba.<br />

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Sromis<br />

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periodSi, rac calsaxad iwvevs<br />

ufleba-movaleobaTa disbalanss<br />

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yovelive zemoTqmulidan gamosavali<br />

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Sirebis gaerTianebis Tavmjdomare<br />

da vazisubnis maJoritar-<br />

obis kandidati, irakli petriaS-<br />

vili:<br />

_ me vpasuxob kompania „aremji<br />

golds” da ara am kompaniis aw ukve<br />

yofil profkavSirebis Tavmjdomares,<br />

joni rTvelaZes, romelic<br />

kompaniis xelmZRvanelobam<br />

profkavSirebis gaerTianebisa da<br />

piradad Cemi diskreditaciis mcdelobisTvis<br />

Zalian uniWod gamoiyena.<br />

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goldis” pressamsaxuri ugzavnis.<br />

pirvel rigSi, madlobas vuxdi<br />

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kidev erTxel momca saSualeba,<br />

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risTvis gadavwyvite profkavSirebidan<br />

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swored „aremji goldis” msgavsi<br />

saxelisuflebo karis bizneskompaniebis<br />

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romlebic wina xelisuflebisa da<br />

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ar niSnavs imas, rom am kompaniebSi<br />

momuSave personalma monur<br />

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da dasaqmebulTa<br />

uflebebisTvis brZolisas arasodes<br />

wavsulvar kompromisze.<br />

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gaxmaurebuli sasamarTlo<br />

advokati gia tabliaSvili<br />

neli vardiaSvili<br />

„qronika+”-Tan acxadebs, rom<br />

597 11 12 47<br />

policiuri reJimi _ moqalaqeeb-<br />

is cema, Seuracxyofa da a. S. is-<br />

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lo sistemas gamousxams frTebi. is sasamarTlos xarvezebsa da<br />

mosamarTleTa zewolebisgan „ganTavisuflebaze” gvesaubra.<br />

imis dasamtkiceblad, rom mosamarTleTa didi nawili kvlav<br />

zemodan imarTeba, ramdenime konkretuli faqtic dagvisaxela.<br />

gia tabliaSvili:<br />

_ vTanxmdebiT, rom „nacionalebis”<br />

dros policiuri reJimi<br />

iyo, rasac cixeebSi udanaSaulod<br />

gamoketili uamravi adamiani<br />

adasturebs. 9-wliani reJimis<br />

dros piradad vmonawileobdi<br />

policiisTvis winaaRmdegobis<br />

gawevis ramdenime saqmeSi, sadac<br />

braldebulebi gaamarTles. 2012<br />

wlis pirveli oqtombris Semdeg<br />

policiisTvis winaaRmdegobis<br />

gawevis Zalian bevr saqmeSi gamamarTlebeli<br />

Sedegi dadga da<br />

policielebi gamtyundnen. maT<br />

Soris, iseT braldebulebsac vicavdi,<br />

romlebsac ramdenime pirobiTi<br />

sasjeli hqondaT policiisTvis<br />

winaaRmdegobis gawevis<br />

muxliT. sasamarTlos ganaCenSi<br />

miTiTebulia, rom es adamianebi<br />

araTu policias uwevdnen<br />

winaaRmdegobas, piriqiT,<br />

policia axorcielebda maTze<br />

Zaladobas. dacvis mxaris, anu<br />

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safuZvelze es<br />

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SemiZlia dagisaxeloT Zalian<br />

cnobili genrix aroSiZis saqme,<br />

romelsac mosamarTle laSa<br />

CxikvaZe ixilavda. es saqme imiT<br />

iyo saintereso, rom genrix aro-<br />

SiZis cemis faqti policiis SenobaSi<br />

Cumad gadaviReT da Semdeg<br />

davurTeT saqmes. swored es<br />

masala gaxda erT-erTi yvelaze<br />

mniSvnelovani mtkicebuleba.<br />

_ advokatebis Tvalwin scem-<br />

dnen braldebulebs?<br />

_ kadrebi malulad gadaviReT,<br />

ise rom policiis Tanam-<br />

Sromlebma araferi icodnen. es<br />

videomasala aroSiZis gamarTlebis<br />

erT-erTi ZiriTadi safu-<br />

Zveli gaxda. SemdgomSi procesze<br />

aRmoCnda, rom is policiis TanamSromlis<br />

qurTuki, viTomda daxeuli<br />

braldebulis mier, aRmoCnda,<br />

rom TviTon policielma<br />

daxia, raTa saqme demZimebina.<br />

msgavsi kategoriis danaSaulis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, saakaSvilis dros,<br />

braldebuls, minimum, naxevari<br />

sicocxle warTmeuli eqneboda<br />

marto cemisa da wamebis Sedegad.<br />

garda samarTalwarmoebis procesisa,<br />

iyo Tu ar iyo damnaSave,<br />

mainc cemasa da wamebaSi xdidnen<br />

suls.<br />

_ eg gasagebia, magram kanoni<br />

rogori iyo?<br />

_ sasjeli iyo dawesebuli<br />

Cveulebrivad da is muxli dResac<br />

igivea. muxli ar Secvlila,<br />

ubralod, midgomebi Seicvala.<br />

_ ratom ar Seicvala muxli?<br />

_ ratom moxda ase, ver getyviT.<br />

policielis winaaRmdegobaze<br />

ori muxli arsebobs: erTerTi<br />

aris 373-e prima _ Tavdasxma,<br />

romelic uvado patimrobas<br />

iTvaliswinebs, rac, sxvaTa Soris,<br />

axali xelisuflebis dros<br />

Semovida. es Tavdasxmis muxli<br />

damZimebulia, Torem policiisTvis<br />

winaaRmdegobis gaweva im<br />

reJimis drosac arsebobda da _<br />

axlac. ar vambob, rom yelaferi<br />

wesrigSia, magram motivacia sxva<br />

aris. ukve arian mosamarTleebi,<br />

romlebic wminda pragmatuli,<br />

adamianuri TvalsazrisiT, obieqturad<br />

ixilaven saqmeebs. ra<br />

Tqma unda, xarvezebze meti ra<br />

aris, magram...<br />

erT-erTi yvelaze damamaxsovrebeli<br />

policiuri Zaladobis<br />

faqti moxda Zveli Tbilisis<br />

raionis policiis ganyofileba-<br />

Si da im raionis prokuraturam<br />

es saqme sasamarTloSi waradgina.<br />

maszec gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni<br />

dadga. dazaralebuls Tavi<br />

gia tabliaSvili:<br />

`saqmeSi devs<br />

eqspertis daskvna,<br />

sadac weria, rom<br />

yvela videoCanaweri,<br />

romelic braldebis<br />

mxarem warmoadgina,<br />

araavTenturia!~<br />

Suaze hqonda gapobili da iseTi<br />

nacemi iyo, gagiJdebodiT. sasamarTlom<br />

gaamarTla.<br />

_ damnaSave policielebi<br />

dasajes?<br />

_ ara, magram Cven viciT, rom,<br />

jerjerobiT, aravin dasjila,<br />

Tumca mTavari adamianis Tavisuflebaa.<br />

_ es arasworia. dausjelobis<br />

sindromiT gaTamamebuli pol-<br />

icielebi rasac akeTeben, yvelam<br />

kargad viciT...<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, swori brZandebiT,<br />

yvela damnaSave unda daisajos.<br />

daTo borCaSvils mosamarTle<br />

CxikvaZem uTxra, _ Sen<br />

ver warmogidgenia, ra xalxi gicavda.<br />

rom ara eseni, sad wavidoda<br />

Seni sasjeli, verc warmoidgeno.<br />

es, faqtobrivad, imas<br />

niSnavs, rom Tavs iqiT Zala aRar<br />

maqvso, _ Tqva mosamarTlem.<br />

_ Tqven ambobT, rom mosamar-<br />

Tlem Tqva, is am braldebulebis<br />

mimarT gamotanil gadaw-<br />

yvetilebaSi damoukidebeli ar<br />

iyo?<br />

_ daaxloebiT da es Seexeba<br />

xolme politikur saqmeebs.<br />

_ anu politikuri saqmeebi<br />

dResac aris?<br />

_ rogorc Cans. ramdenime<br />

saqmeze SemiZlia gulwrfelad<br />

vTqva, rom mosamarTlis qceva<br />

absoluturad amovardnili iyo<br />

samosamarTleo eTikidan. me ki<br />

ara, nebismieri Seatyobda, rom<br />

eTikidan iyo gasuli, imdenad<br />

araadekvaturi iyo aiup borCaSvilis<br />

saqme. iq, magaliTad, mosamarTle<br />

iseTi damfrTxali iyo...<br />

me da advokati gela nikolaiSvili<br />

vicavdiT aiup borCaSvils,<br />

giorgi xutuniSvilsa da<br />

davT firisebias. meoTxe iyo kuprava<br />

da sams me vicavdi. es iyo<br />

erTi saqme. maT braldebodaT<br />

teroristuli organizaciis<br />

wevroba _ masSi gawevrianeba da<br />

xelis Sewyoba, romelic aris<br />

327-e muxli. Tumca gasul wels,<br />

22 noembers, daviT borCaSvili<br />

daakaves, romelic daWrili iyo,<br />

is saqarTveloSi Semovida da<br />

Tbilisis aeroportSi daiWires.<br />

masac me vicavdi. aq yvela mtkicebulebaze,<br />

romelic braldebis<br />

mxarem _ prokuraturam warmoadgina,<br />

eqspertizebis daskvna<br />

gaica, rom ar iyo avTenturi _<br />

namdvili.<br />

_ ra warmoadgina eqsperti-<br />

zam?<br />

_ videokadrebi warmoadina,<br />

romelic mas prokuraturam miutana<br />

da eqspertis daskvniT es<br />

xelovnurad iyo Seqmnili. roca<br />

saqmeSi originali ar arsebobs<br />

da eqspertiza ambobs, rom ar<br />

aris avTenturi, CvenTan, sisxlis<br />

samarTlis saroceso kodeqsis<br />

78-e muxliT mtkicebulebas Zala<br />

ekargeba, magram daviT borCaSvils<br />

mainc miusajes 10 weli.<br />

sasamarTlom eqspertis daskvna<br />

18<br />

`es aris nonsensi, rodesac mosamarTle<br />

braldebuls, jer argasamarTlebul adamians,<br />

ukve uebneba, rom Sen teroristi xar, me Seni<br />

meSinia da Sen saxifaTo xaro. yvela misi<br />

gancxadeba exeboda imas, rom mas ukve dasjili<br />

hyavda es xalxi Tavis cnobierSi ganaCenamde.<br />

es sxdomis oqmebSi dafiqsirebulia. me ver<br />

getyviT, vin ra daavala mas. apriori ukve<br />

ambobda, rom me unda dagsajoTo. Zalian<br />

martivi misaxvedria~<br />

ar miiRo mtkicebulebad. yvelaze<br />

kuriozuli is iyo, rom<br />

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi devs<br />

eqspertis daskvna, sadac weria,<br />

rom yvela videoCanaweri, romelic<br />

braldebis mxarem warmoadgina,<br />

araavTenturia. es eqspertiza<br />

ki daniSna Tavad prokuraturam<br />

da ara Cven. miuxedavad am<br />

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procesebis kazusebi<br />

samosamarTleo eTikis gadacdomaze<br />

_ mosamarTlem darbazidan<br />

gauSva adamianebi, sxdoma<br />

daxura da zogierTi iq datova.<br />

es kanonmdeblobisTvis Zalian<br />

ucxo movlenaa da amitom...<br />

sasamarTlo praqtikaSi ukve<br />

diferenciacia xdeba da gamoikveTnen<br />

mosamarTleebi, romlebic<br />

absoluturad Seudrekelad<br />

da amayad, obieqturad da samarTlianad<br />

muSaoben, magram<br />

arian mosamarTleebi, romlebsac<br />

raRac motivaciebiT da garemoebebis<br />

gaTvaliswinebiT gamamarTlebeli<br />

ganaCenebi ver gamoaqvT,<br />

Tumca SeuZliaT, rom gamoitanon.<br />

Cveni mizani aris is, rom sasamarTlo<br />

iyos damoukidebeli,<br />

mosamarTlem miukerZoebeli ganaCeni<br />

gamoitanos, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

unda gamovamJRavnoT<br />

mosamarTleebi, romlebsac Tundac<br />

zewola aqvT, an arasamarTlebrivad<br />

moqmedeben...<br />

rac mogiyeviT, urTulesi<br />

saqmeebi iyo. cota xnis win gvqonda<br />

mkvleloba-yaCaRobis saqme<br />

da sami piri pirdapir darbazidan<br />

gauSves, gaamarTles: maxarobliZe,<br />

CikvilaZe da arabuli.<br />

_ es, albaT, imis bralia, rom<br />

sasamarTlo sistema isev Zveli<br />

mosamarTleebiT kompleqtdeba.<br />

rogor gjeraT maTi mentalo-<br />

bis Secvlis?<br />

_ amitomac uamravi sarCeli<br />

gvaqvs naweri iusticiis umaRles<br />

sabWoSi...<br />

_ iusticiis umaRles sabWo-<br />

Si vinme dasjili ginaxavT?<br />

`roca saqmeSi originali ar arsebobs da<br />

eqspertiza ambobs, rom ar aris avTenturi,<br />

CvenTan, sisxlis samarTlis saroceso kodeqsis<br />

78-e muxliT mtkicebulebas Zala ekargeba,<br />

magram daviT borCaSvils mainc miusajes 10<br />

weli. sasamarTlom eqspertis daskvna ar miiRo<br />

mtkicebulebad. yvelaze kuriozuli is iyo, rom<br />

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi devs eqspertis<br />

daskvna, sadac weria, rom yvela videoCanaweri,<br />

romelic braldebis mxarem warmoadgina,<br />

araavTenturia. es eqspertiza ki daniSna Tavad<br />

prokuraturam da ara Cven. miuxedavad am<br />

daskvnisa, sasamarTlom ganacxada: mere ra, rom<br />

ar aris avTenturio? rac niSnavs 78-e muxlis<br />

uaryofas. mosamarTle iyo laSa CxikvaZe da is<br />

am SemTxvevaSi zewolis qveS gaxldaT, Tavad<br />

gadawyvita es, Tu ra moxda, Cemgan amis Sesaxeb<br />

raimes mtkiceba Zalian Zneli iqneba, garkveuli<br />

mosazreba ki, cxadia, maqvs~<br />

daskvnisa, sasamarTlom ganacxada:<br />

mere ra, rom ar aris avTenturio?<br />

rac niSnavs 78-e muxlis<br />

uaryofas. mosamarTle iyo laSa<br />

CxikvaZe da is am SemTxvevaSi zewolis<br />

qveS gaxldaT, Tavad gadawyvita<br />

es Tu ra moxda, Cemgan<br />

amis Sesaxeb raimes mtkiceba Zalian<br />

Zneli iqneba, garkveuli<br />

mosazreba ki, cxadia, maqvs.<br />

aiup borCaSvilis saqmeze ki<br />

mosamarTle iyo sxilaZe, romelic,<br />

sxvaTa Soris, iusticiis sab-<br />

Wom dasaja. mag procesze TvalnaTliv<br />

Canda, rom es mosamar-<br />

Tle Zalian SeSinebuli iyo,<br />

pirdapir procesze acxadebda, me<br />

amaT ver gavuSvebo. warmogidgeniaT,<br />

amas ambobda mosamarTle<br />

da yvela uyurebda.<br />

_ mainc, rogor acxadebda?<br />

_ rogor da eseni teroristebi,<br />

Zalian saSiSebi ariano da amas<br />

is ambobda ganaCenamde. es xom<br />

nonsensia? prokurors ramdenjerme<br />

SeniSvna miveci da bolos<br />

orives vuTxari, _ mogiwevT umuSevrad<br />

darCena-meTqi. es procesze<br />

vTqvi da ra Tqma unda,<br />

mosamarTlem araferi mipasuxa.<br />

aris xolme iseTi saqmeebi, rodesac<br />

mosamarTle pirdapir sasamarTlo<br />

sxdomaze gagrZnobinebs,<br />

an geubneba, rom es CemTvis ganaCenamde<br />

ukve damnaSaveao.<br />

_ es dakveTaa, xom?<br />

_ es aris nonsensi, rodesac<br />

mosamarTle braldebuls, jer<br />

argasamarTlebul adamians, ukve<br />

uebneba, rom Sen teroristi xar,<br />

me Seni meSinia da Sen saxifaTo<br />

xaro. yvela misi gancxadeba exeboda<br />

imas, rom mas ukve dasjili<br />

hyavda es xalxi Tavis cnobierSi<br />

ganaCenamde. es sxdomis oqmebSi<br />

dafiqsirebulia. me ver getyviT,<br />

vin ra daavala mas. apriori ukve<br />

ambobda, rom me unda dagsajo-<br />

To. Zalian martivi misaxvedria.<br />

_ amitom aris am mosamarT-<br />

lis saqme iusticiis sabWoSi?<br />

_ iusticiis sabWoSi am mosamarTlis<br />

mimarT saCivari Sevida<br />

`me da advokati gela nikolaiSvili vicavdiT aiup<br />

borCaSvils, giorgi xutuniSvilsa da davT<br />

firisebias. meoTxe iyo kuprava da sams me vicavdi.<br />

es iyo erTi saqme. maT braldebodaT<br />

teroristuli organizaciis wevroba - masSi<br />

gawevrianeba da xelis Sewyoba, romelic aris 327-e<br />

muxli. Tumca gasul wels, 22 noembers, daviT<br />

borCaSvili daakaves, romelic daWrili iyo, is<br />

saqarTveloSi Semovida da Tbilisis aeroportSi<br />

daiWires. masac me vicavdi. aq yvela<br />

mtkicebulebaze, romelic braldebis mxarem -<br />

prokuraturam warmoadgina, eqspertizebis daskvna<br />

gaica, rom ar iyo avTenturi - namdvili~<br />

_ jemal kopaliani SarSan Cven<br />

gavaTavisuflebineT 21 seqtembers.<br />

8 Tvis mere ki kvlav<br />

daniSnes. saakaSvilis dros mosamarTleebis<br />

erTi nawili iyo,<br />

romlebsac samsaxuris dakargvis<br />

eSinodaT da bunebrivia, xelisuflebis<br />

nebas dahyvebodnen. Tumca<br />

iyvnen mosamarTleebi, romlebic<br />

yvelanair zomas gadadiodnen,<br />

amcirebdnen, Seuracxyofas<br />

ayenebdnen da amas maT<br />

aravin avalebda. isini sakuTari<br />

nebiT moqmedebdnen ase.<br />

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Rvevebis Sesaxeb. amisTvis saWiro<br />

iyo, isini daesvaT da instruqtaJi<br />

damatebiT CaetarebinaT,<br />

e. w. megobruli rCevebis<br />

saxiT, sadac aRwerdnen, ra iyo<br />

mosalodneli ubnebze da ra<br />

unda daepirispirebinaT mis-<br />

Tvis. es ar momxdara”, _ ambobs<br />

enm-dan saubno komisiis wevri<br />

T.i.<br />

„Sedegad, ise moxda, rom Cven<br />

Zalianac gafacicebuli viyaviT,<br />

yvelafers vakontrolebdiT,<br />

magram bolos aRmoCnda,<br />

rom raRacebi mainc gamogvepara,<br />

bolos da bolos, iq mainc,<br />

sadac ubanSi Cvenze gamocdilebi<br />

iyvnen”.<br />

arada, Cvens xelT arsebuli<br />

informaciiT, „qarTul ocnebas”<br />

ubnebze, praqtikulad, yvelgan<br />

Zveli, gamocdili kadrebi<br />

hyavda. am saxelisuflebo<br />

partiis damkvirvebelTa Soris<br />

Zalian cotani iyvnen axalbedebi<br />

da Tu iyvnen, saarCevno detalebSi,<br />

maqinaciebsa da sxva<br />

ambebSi bevrad ukeT erkveodnen,<br />

vidre maTi kolegebi enm-dan.<br />

meore sakiTxia ukve mizanmimarTuli<br />

monawileoba gayalbebaSi,<br />

romelsac mere veravin Secvlis,<br />

radgan iuridiulad yvela<br />

safexuri zustadaa gavlili<br />

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zRvarze ukve meored dgas!<br />

da aranairi darRveva ar SeiniSneba.<br />

es e. w. Semoxazuli biuletenebia,<br />

romlebic baTilad<br />

cnes imis gamo, rom masze erTze<br />

meti saarCevno subieqti iyo<br />

Semoxazuli. saqme is gaxldaT,<br />

rom amomrCevelma ki sworad,<br />

anu mxolod erTi Semoxaza, magram<br />

xmebis daTvlis dros am<br />

biuletenebze viRacam kidev<br />

erTxel Semoxaza sxva nomeri,<br />

ris Semdegac, cxadia, biuleteni<br />

gabaTilda.<br />

rogor SeiZleba, msgavsi ram<br />

moxdes komisiis uklebliv yvela<br />

wevris Tanxmobis gareSe? anu<br />

Tu, vTqvaT, enm-s warmomadgeneli<br />

winaaRmdegia am garigebis,<br />

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niSani unda daisvas?<br />

ramdenia aseTi formiT (anu<br />

xelmeored SemoxazviT) gaba-<br />

sijboqsi, rom Tvalebi daexu-<br />

WaT?<br />

swored am da sxva SekiTxvebze<br />

pasuxis gasarkvevad dairazmnen<br />

socialur qselebSi enm-s momxreebi.<br />

isini am azrTa WidilSi<br />

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enm-s Signidanac ekveTnen<br />

erTmaneTs sxvadasxva azrebi.<br />

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unda Sesuliyvnen Tu ara enm-s<br />

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Si naCvenebi Sedegebis ganxilvam<br />

da aseTi Sedegis mizezebis<br />

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Teoriis momxreTa simravlis<br />

fonze, yvela sxva qmedeba<br />

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swored amitom, Tamamad Sei-<br />

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ukve meored, enm yofna-aryofnis<br />

zRvarze dgas. an<br />

partia pasuxs gascems yvela SekiTxvas<br />

da darCeba amomrCeve-<br />

cxovreba man unda warmarTos.<br />

saakaSvilis distancirebis<br />

momxreebs partiaSi mimdinare<br />

procesebi Zalian moswonT da<br />

„meti demokratiis” principiT<br />

moqmedeben. partiis wesdeba gansazRvravs,<br />

rom partiis politsabWoSi<br />

aranakleb 24 wevrisa<br />

unda iyos, bolo yrilobaze ar-<br />

Ceuli politsabWo ki 50 wevrisgan<br />

Sedgeba. is gadawyvetilebas<br />

umravlesobiT iRebs. partiis<br />

politsabWos Tavmjdomaris,<br />

Tundac partiis lideris pozicia<br />

arafers cvlis: kenWisyra<br />

farulia da wesiT, aravin icis,<br />

vin ras aZlevs xmas.<br />

kacma rom Tqvas, es strategia<br />

demokratiulia da misaRebic.<br />

magram misi mowinaaRmdegeebic<br />

arseboben, romlebic am<br />

yvelaferSi lideris ignorirebas<br />

xedaven. maTTvis mTavaria,<br />

gadamwyveti sityvis ufleba<br />

hqondes liders. _ politsab-<br />

„mgoni, xmis micemis dasrulebis<br />

Semdeg, zogierTi adamiani,<br />

erTmaneTTan saqmis garCevis<br />

nacvlad, mtkicebulebebis<br />

sistematizaciiT rom dakavebuliyo,<br />

yvela regionSi davamtkicebdiT<br />

masobriv gayalbebas.<br />

marto aWaraSi gauqmebuli (e. i.<br />

amomrCevlebis moparuli) 25<br />

aTasi biuleteni ramdens niSnavs.<br />

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da rodesac amis dro<br />

mova, arCevnebis moparvisTvis<br />

pasuxi vagebinoT am didi aferis<br />

damgegmavebsa da ZiriTad<br />

ganmaxorcieleblebs.<br />

madlobeli var yvela aqtivistis,<br />

vinc miuxedavad zewolisa,<br />

gulmodgineT agrovebs am<br />

mtkicebulebebs”.<br />

saakaSvilis am gancxadebaSi<br />

ori miniSnebaa: is viRacebs<br />

sayvedurobs, rom „erTmaneT-<br />

Tan saqmis garCeviT” ar unda<br />

lad, roca arCevnebi dasrulda,<br />

ceskom ki pirveladi Sedegebi<br />

gamoacxada, ceskos win enms<br />

mxardamWerebi nika melias mowodebis<br />

mere Seikribnen da pirdapir<br />

ganacxades, rom biZina<br />

ivaniSvilma arCevnebi gaayalba.<br />

iyo mowodebac: „Tavs SegaklavaT,<br />

xmebs ar mogaparinebT”,<br />

ramac radiklalurad ki ganawyo<br />

amomrCevelTa nawili, magram<br />

gagrZeleba, muxti ar mohyolia.<br />

ori saaTis Semdeg isev ceskosTan<br />

daniSnul mitingze enm-s<br />

mxardamWerebi ki mividnen, magram<br />

iq partiis liderebi ukve<br />

frTaSekvecilebi, zomierad<br />

molaparakeni daxvdnen. saxalxo<br />

aqciebi gadaido.<br />

mogvianebiT, enm-s wevrTa nawilma<br />

ganmarta, ratom ar daiwyes<br />

saxalxo gamosvlebi da aqciebi:<br />

„suraTi Zalian bundovani<br />

iyo. amave dros, modioda monacemebi<br />

ubnebidan, rom yve-<br />

Tilebuli biuletenebis xvedriTi<br />

wili im 137.000 biuleten-<br />

Si? saerTod, vinmes enm-s partiaSi,<br />

politsabWoSi, mouvida<br />

TavSi, rom Sidamokvlevis msgavsi<br />

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raTa gamovleniliyo saeWvo ubnebi,<br />

sadac enm-s warmomadgenlebi<br />

scodavdnen? amis gakeTeba<br />

Zalian advili iyo, magram gakeTda?<br />

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rom enm-s, arCevnebis Semdeg,<br />

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ar mouclia, savaraudod,<br />

arc aseTi ubnebis sia<br />

arsebobs.<br />

im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki SevTanxmdebiT,<br />

rom enm-s warmomadgenlebma<br />

komisiaSi ara erT an<br />

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Ti nebiT da forma mTeli saqarTvelos<br />

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davaleba iyo _ saerTo me-<br />

lTan, an partia momavali nabijiT<br />

kidev ufro meti nawiliT<br />

daSordeba amomrCevels.<br />

TavisTavad cxadia, yvela xedavs,<br />

rom partiis ara marto<br />

mxardamWerebSi, aramed Tavad<br />

politsabWos wevrebSic ki midis<br />

saboloo danawileba saakaSvilis<br />

momxreTa da mowinaaRmdegeTa<br />

banakSi.<br />

oRond Tu viRacas hgonia,<br />

rom es „banakebad dayofa” saakaSvilis<br />

dagmobas niSnavs, ase<br />

namdvilad ar aris: orive mxare<br />

Tanxmdeba, rom mixeil saakaSvili<br />

udidesi mniSvnelobis<br />

mqone politikosia da enm-sTan<br />

sul iqneba asocirebuli.<br />

aq saqme sxva ram gaxlavT:<br />

partiasa da mxardamWerebSi zogi<br />

miiCnevs, rom saakaSvili cota<br />

xniT unda distancirdes<br />

enm-sgan da saerTod, pauza ai-<br />

Ros saqarTvelos politikur<br />

procesebSi Carevisgan, nawils<br />

ki miaCnia, rom piriqiT, ufro<br />

aqtiurad unda warmoCindes da<br />

saerTod, enm-s politikuri<br />

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Wos 50 wevri? amdeni ra saWiroa?<br />

ra aucilebelia, yvelas<br />

hqondes xmis ufleba? ar sjobia,<br />

gamocdilma politikosma<br />

gadawyvitos iseTi sakiTxi, rogoric<br />

parlamentSi Sesvlaa? _<br />

amboben isini. da maTi raodenoba,<br />

rogori gasakviric unda iyos,<br />

bevrad aWarbebs meti demokratiis<br />

principis momxreTa raodenobas.<br />

swored maTgan modis<br />

SekiTxvebic, _ ratom ver aCvena<br />

enm-m ukeTesi Sedegi, roca<br />

amis perspeqtiva arsebobda?<br />

rogorc Cans, Tavad enm-s damfuZnebeli<br />

da ucvlel liderad<br />

miCneuli mixeil saakaSvilic<br />

maT pozicias iziarebs,<br />

vinc miiCnevs, rom arCevnebis<br />

Sedegebis gamocxadebis Semdeg<br />

enm mTlad sworad ver moiqca.<br />

mis gancxadebaSi orazrovneba<br />

da dasjis dapireba erTdroulad<br />

gamosWvivis. iseTi STabe-<br />

Wdileba grCeba kacs, rom mixeil<br />

saakaSvili gareSe da Sinaur<br />

mtrebs erTobliv mimarTvas<br />

ugzavnis:<br />

dakavebuliyaviT da darRvevebi<br />

aRgeniSnaTo da meore, _ am<br />

didi aferis organizatorebi<br />

da monawileebi male gamovlindebian<br />

da daisjebiano.<br />

vinc saakaSvilis gancxadebebis<br />

stils icnobs, advilad<br />

dagveTanxmeba, rom gancxadebis<br />

meore nawilSic ki, romelic<br />

pirdapir moiTxovs miniSnebas,<br />

saakaSvils aRar dausaxelebia<br />

„qarTuli ocneba”, ase rom, Sei-<br />

Zleba vigulisxmoT: saakaSvili<br />

momxreebs mouwodebda, faqtebi<br />

SevagrovoT da roca dro<br />

mova, am procesis monawile Cvenianebs<br />

pasuxi movTxovoTo.<br />

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partiaSic, misi sakmaod didi nawili<br />

miiCnevs, rom enm-sa da „ocnebas”<br />

Soris garigeba Tu ar Semdgara,<br />

yovel SemTxvevaSi, es Sedegi,<br />

Semdeg ki enm-s politsabWos<br />

gadawyvetileba da umeteswilad,<br />

liderTa dumili masobrivi gayalbebis<br />

gamo raRac damatebiTi<br />

faqtorebiTaa gamowveuli.<br />

Tavad gansajeT: Tavdapirve-<br />

laferi mSvidad da normalur<br />

viTarebaSi Catarda da „ocnebam”<br />

moigo. anu es Tavdapirveli<br />

isterika cru gangaSi aRmoCnda.<br />

mere imaze daiwyo laparaki,<br />

Cvenebma ver ivargeso.<br />

es, faqtobrivad, Tbiliss exeba,<br />

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vici”, _ ambobs c.k.<br />

partiaSi saakaSvilis momxremowinaaRmdegeebs<br />

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miT umetes, rom mcdeloba<br />

ki iyo, magram ganxilva ar Semwydara<br />

„feisbuqze”. saakaSvilis<br />

mier ki xmis amoReba, misi postis<br />

Sinaarsi da is, rom mas mere,<br />

faqtobrivad, araferi dauweria,<br />

etyoba, imas niSnavs,<br />

rom enm-s SigniT Camovardnili<br />

dumili qariSxliswina siCumes<br />

hgavs da arCevnebis meore turis<br />

Semdeg mamxilebel-mtkicebulebiTi<br />

formebiT saubari da<br />

dapirispireba ganaxldeba.<br />

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is aris, rom igi aqamde dakavebuli<br />

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mxardaWera?! _ ra Tqma unda, gayalbebiT.<br />

TviTon borjomis olq-<br />

Si, met-naklebad, simSvide iyo,<br />

magram iq, sadac darRvevebi dafiqsirda,<br />

mwvaneformiani komisiis<br />

wevrebi saarCevno ubnis gare-<br />

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Si, ise proporciulSi.<br />

_ es ras niSnavs?<br />

_ warmoidgineT, rom erT-erT<br />

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erTeuls da arCevanis gasakeTebladac<br />

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daTvlisas biuletenebidan<br />

baTilad rom ecnoT Tundac<br />

naxevari, biuletenebis saer-<br />

To raodenoba isev 300 unda yofiliyo.<br />

saqme ki is aris, rom, faqtobrivad,<br />

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garkveuli raodenoba,<br />

anu isini gareT gaitanes, risi<br />

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SemTxvevebi sxvaganac xdeboda.<br />

_ darCenili biuletenebi sad<br />

wavida?<br />

_ is biuletenebi, romlebic<br />

ar gaixarja, ukan brundeba da<br />

maT ukve aRaravin aqcevs yuradRebas.<br />

_ daabrunes Tu ara, aravin<br />

icis?<br />

_ savaraudod, daabrunebdnen,<br />

magram mag sakiTxze veRar gavamaxvileT<br />

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axalqalaqis ubani. Cven,<br />

ra Tqma unda, winaaRmdegebi<br />

viyaviT, magram vin SegvekiTxa?<br />

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gedevan fofxaZe meore turs.<br />

katastrofuli mdgomareobaa<br />

axalqalaqis soflebis umetes<br />

nawilSi. magaliTad, piradad 6<br />

ubanze Sevitane saCivari: me-17,<br />

me-18, 21-e, 43-e, 44-e da 48-e ubnebze.<br />

es is 6 ubania, romlebzec<br />

aranairi balansi ar jdeba. oqmebis<br />

TariRebic ki areulia, mo-<br />

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qmed TariRs dilis dro aqvs mi-<br />

TiTebuli, rac safuZvlian eWvs<br />

badebs, rom es oqmebi yvela gayalbebulia<br />

da, realurad, isini<br />

gzaSia Sedgenili winaswar, viRac<br />

gaunaTlebeli xalxis mier da ra<br />

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TiTes. balansebi arazustia, daklebulia<br />

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romelic yvelaze metad iyo<br />

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aRniSnul ubnebze davafiqsireT<br />

kidev erTi saeWvo garemoeba:<br />

21:30wT-ze Sedgenilia orive<br />

oqmi, proporciulic da ma-<br />

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erT wuTSi moaxerxos erTdroulad<br />

ori amxela oqmis Sedgena.<br />

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iyo: fofxaZes 240 ewera, anu 24<br />

win Camatebuli hqonda. am SesworebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT aranairi<br />

axsnaganmartebiTi baraTi ar<br />

gakeTebula. arada, da kanonSi<br />

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Sesworebuli muxli baTilia, an<br />

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baraTi imis Sesaxeb,<br />

Tu ra Secdomaa daSvebuli. Cven<br />

es faqtic gavasaCivreT da moviTxoveT<br />

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es moTxovna arafriT dagvikmayofila<br />

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Tavmjdomarem, romelic pirdapiri<br />

wesiT „apravebda” momxdars.<br />

is adamiani, romelmac piradad<br />

Seadgina oqmebi, komisiaze Camoiyvanes<br />

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axnaganmartebiTi baraTebis<br />

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unda mieyvana xalxi arCevnebze?!<br />

Tu ar vcdebi, is ubanSi unda yofiliyo<br />

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ekeTebina, ase araa?! es yvelaferi<br />

imaze miuTiTebs, rom udidesi<br />

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Si, an ra Seavses, TviTonac ar<br />

ician.<br />

_ ambobdnen, rom yalbi pira-<br />

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ZiriTadad, am gziT ayal-<br />

bebdnen xmebs, Tqven<br />

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_ amaze verafers getyviT, imitom<br />

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xelSi da TariRebi.<br />

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da?<br />

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mis mimarT, arc maTi partiis<br />

mimarT iyo dadebiTi damokidebuleba,<br />

yvela fofxaZes aginebda<br />

da lanZRavda. is saswaulad<br />

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„nacebi modian” propagandam...<br />

„leiboristuli partiis” winaa-<br />

Rmdeg dawyebulma propagandamac<br />

gaWra Taviseburad, SatberaSvilis<br />

saSinelma saqcielmac imoqmeda<br />

Cven winaaRmdeg. aseve gamoiyenes<br />

Jurnalisti ramiSvili. samwuxarod,<br />

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Sarlatanebis TamaSs, aseve darigebul<br />

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seriozulad muSaobda.<br />

_ rogor muSaobda?<br />

_ ZiriTadad, saRamos saaTeb-<br />

Si, pirdapir ukavSirdebodnen<br />

amomrCevlebs, naxulobdnen maT,<br />

elaparakebodnen, zogs manqanaSi<br />

gedevan fofxaZe<br />

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`borjomis olqSi, met-naklebad, simSvide iyo,<br />

magram iq, sadac darRvevebi dafiqsirda,<br />

mwvaneformiani komisiis wevrebi saarCevno<br />

ubnis gareTac gamodiodnen da agitaciasac<br />

atarebdnen. biuletenebis raodenobas rac<br />

Seexeba, sakmaod bevria dakarguli, balansi<br />

ar jdeba bevr ubanze, rogorc maJoritarSi,<br />

ise proporciulSi~<br />

isvamdnen da ise „amuSavebdnen”.<br />

Tumca arCevnebi gayalbda ara<br />

marto uSiSroebiT. sadac sWirdebodaT<br />

da ra doziTac, administraciuli<br />

resursi gamoiyenes.<br />

gedi fofxaZem axaldabaSi (romelic<br />

erT-erTi yvelaze didi dabaa<br />

borjomSi) 15 seqtembridan<br />

daiwyo maswavleblad muSaoba,<br />

cxadia, piaris mizniT. am xalxs<br />

Sehpirda, 4 weli rom ver gxedavdiT,<br />

axla sul TqvenTan unda<br />

viyo da maswavleblad viwyeb<br />

muSaobaso.<br />

_ marTla iwyebs?<br />

_ skolaSi daiwyo gakveTilebis<br />

Catareba da, faqtobrivad, am<br />

dabis xalxi miimxro. fizikurad<br />

rogor unda gaagrZelos iq<br />

muSaoba, eg ar vici, warmoudgenelia.<br />

moatyua xalxi.<br />

_ ra moutana gedi fofxaZis<br />

deputatobam borjoms da axla<br />

ras moutans?<br />

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isTvis deputats?<br />

_ mosaxleobas vekiTxebodi:<br />

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piari iyo: adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />

arCevnebis win, erTerT<br />

sofelze, sakrebulos mimarTa<br />

da man dauWira mxari, raRac<br />

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mewyrul zonaSi dazaralebuli<br />

adamianebisTvis daxmarebebi gaica.<br />

es iyo misi piari da ara xalxze<br />

zrunva. man axla icis, rom am<br />

soflebidan xmebi mouvida. maSin<br />

axali deputati iyo da sakrebulos<br />

mxardaWeriT gaica Tanxebi.<br />

es moxda 2012 wlis bolos. es iyo<br />

da es, Torem maRalmTiani soflebidan<br />

10 sofeli kidev elodeba<br />

maRalmTianis statuss borjomSi,<br />

Tumca amaod. 15 soflidan<br />

5-s mere mianiWes wivil-kivilis<br />

Semdeg statusi. roca parlamentis<br />

wevri xar, kanonebs iReb da<br />

ici, rom Seni regioni maRalmTian<br />

zonaSia da Cagraven, rogor ar<br />

unda aatalaxo im kabinetis kari,<br />

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`aspinZis erT-erT sofelSi, sadac beselia da<br />

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xmebis miRebis sanacvlod konkretuli<br />

dakavebuli piris cixidan gamoSvebas<br />

dahpirdnen. marTlac im soflidan fofxaZem<br />

90%-iani mxardaWera miiRo, arCevnebis<br />

Catarebidan ori-sami dRis Tavze ki aRniSnuli<br />

patimari cixidan gaaTavisufles. axlac<br />

vcdilob mtkicebulebebis mopovebas, romelic<br />

advili ar aris. es saqme, Tavis droze,<br />

gaxmaurebuli iyo. ramdenadac CemTvis cnobili<br />

gaxda, is pirovneba Cinovniki gaxldaT, yovel<br />

SemTxvevaSi, - yofili "naci" da saWiro figura.<br />

faqti is aris, rom igi aqamde dakavebuli iyo<br />

da axla marTlac Tavisufalia. danarCens<br />

amjerad arafers getyviT da roca Tavidan<br />

bolomde gamovikvlev, rac moxda, detalurad,<br />

pirvelad Tqven mogiyvebiT~<br />

kanons?! ukanonobas uwyob xels<br />

kanonSemoqmedi? 800 metrze zemoT<br />

myofi soflebi xvdeba am sia-<br />

Si da ratom unda gamorCeniliyo<br />

iseTi soflebi, romlebic 1200-<br />

ze da 2000 metramde simaRlezea<br />

zRvis donidan?<br />

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Sexvedrebis Catarebebze xom<br />

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Se ar dadioda, Tan iyenebda da<br />

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Tavmjdomaris moadgile iyo<br />

parlamentSi da uSualod am Tanamdebobidan<br />

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moqalaqe ugzavnida werils. agvistoSi<br />

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Tu maT gasaWirs ar ismens?<br />

_ Tqven axla wagebuli da<br />

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idan saubrobT...<br />

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_ e. i. borjomSi arCevnebi gay-<br />

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turSi. aspinZisa da borjomis<br />

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P. S. giorgi giuaSvilma „qronika+”-s<br />

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winaswar Seadgines es oqmebi „su-<br />

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Sedgenili, romelTa safuZvelzec<br />

saxelisuflebo kandi-<br />

dati borjomSi igebs!”<br />

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`xaSurSi saarCevno<br />

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giorgi mefariZe<br />

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ruseTi Cveni moZme qveyanaa,<br />

_ RaRadebs generali. me Tu vityvi,<br />

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vinc sazogadoebis nawilad<br />

miiCnevT Tavs, nu xarT Caketilebi.<br />

ase orSaurad rom gaiyida<br />

maxarobliZis xmebi, axla<br />

simoni (nozaZe) vaWrobs Tavisi<br />

xmebiT am yvelaferze, _ xmas<br />

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sazogadoeba?<br />

xaSuris bazari odiTganve<br />

ganTqmuli iyo. hoda, daxlze<br />

jer „nacionali” roin maxarobliZe<br />

idga da gayida xmebi, axla<br />

ki Rrmad pativcemuli rusuli<br />

gadmonaSTebis matarebeli<br />

generali dadga bazris kuTxis<br />

cariel daxlTan da wavida gamalebuli<br />

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mavans Tanxa, erTxel iuara generalma<br />

da fexi aqvs gamodgmuli,<br />

_ fass ver davaklebo. ra<br />

qnas, tkbili sibere unda am<br />

moxucebulobaSi baton simons,<br />

ver gaamtyuneb.<br />

fulis tomara valeri gelaSvili<br />

ki am yvelafers Soridan<br />

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dRes xom sabazro ekonomikaa<br />

ganviTarebuli xaSurSi,<br />

hoda, Cveni politikosebic Cvenive<br />

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24<br />

simon nozaZe<br />

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matarebeli generali dadga bazris kuTxis<br />

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iuara generalma da fexi aqvs gamodgmuli, -<br />

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unda am moxucebulobaSi baton simons, ver<br />

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sxva qalaqebisgan da regionebisgan.<br />

aq rac xdeba, esaa sruli<br />

sibnele. xalxis gamoyenebiT<br />

politikosebi fuls Souloben<br />

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deputatobis 4 kandidati<br />

iyo gamokveTili. reitingul<br />

kandidatad ruseTume TofaZis<br />

mrewvelebidan „kagebes” generali<br />

simon nozaZe, xolo „nacionalebidan”<br />

roin maxarobliZe<br />

saxeldeboda. damoukidebeli<br />

kandidati pavle lacabiZe iyo.<br />

roman maxarobliZe<br />

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sabazro ekonomika yvavis~<br />

mxolod bolos moiazreboda<br />

valeri gelaSvili saxelisuflebo<br />

gundidan.<br />

me araerTi posti damiweria<br />

socialur qselSi imis Sesaxeb,<br />

rom „nacionalebis” lideri maxarobliZe<br />

xmebs dauTmobda valeri<br />

gelaSvils da meore tur-<br />

Si is darCeboda. asec moxda,<br />

garigeba Sedga, „nacionalebma”<br />

daTmes da valeri gelaSvili<br />

meore turSia.<br />

gadaxedeT ceskos monacemebs<br />

da yvela mixvdebiT, asec<br />

rom aris. ramxela gansxvavebas<br />

dainaxavT „nacmoZraobis” partiul<br />

mxardamWerebsa da mis kandidats<br />

Soris, amiT yvelaferi<br />

naTqvamia, maxarobliZe gaiyida.<br />

am 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi valeri<br />

gelaSvilma araerTi proeqti<br />

wamoiwyo da daafinansa:<br />

aaSena sastumro, aSenebs did<br />

supermarkets, masTan erTad<br />

100-kacian kinoTeatrs. es kaci<br />

biznesmenia da sakuTar Tavze<br />

fiqrobs. Tumca erTi plusia, _<br />

am mSeneblobebze xalxi saqmdeba.<br />

qalaqs cota raRac daetyo<br />

da idioti unda iyo adamiani, es<br />

ver dainaxo.<br />

erTi sityviT, Cveni yofili<br />

deputati da aw kandidati, romelic<br />

meore turisTvis ibrZolebs,<br />

metwilad, sakuTar interesebs<br />

icavs da danarCeni mosaxleoba<br />

Tu ara, masTan dasaqmebuli<br />

xalxi mainc kmayofilia.<br />

meore mxridan misi mowinaaRmdegea<br />

„kagebes” kadri simon<br />

nozaZe. igi saqarTvelos<br />

uSiSroebaSi, im avbediT wleb-<br />

Si, SevardnaZis dros muSaobda.<br />

mis saxels araerTi cudi saqme<br />

ukavSirdeba. „mrewvelebma”<br />

waradgines arCevnebze.<br />

ar dagaviwydeT, sanam „mrewvelebidan”<br />

gamovidoda, igi<br />

Worebs avrcelebda, rom „ocnebidan”<br />

iyrida kenWs. Semdeg<br />

„ocnebam” rom gamoapanRura,<br />

„girCs” mietmasna. esec rom ar<br />

`winasaarCevno procesebidan gamomdinare, bevri muqara modis Cem<br />

winaaRmdeg. jer iyo gamgebeli damemuqra, - manqaniT unda gadagiaro,<br />

Tu rames dawer socialur qselSio. mere `feisbuqis~ saSualebiT<br />

usaxelo da ugvaro eqaunTebiT memuqrebian. zogi meubneba, `kaliaskaSi~<br />

unda CagajinoT, invalidad dagtovebTo. zogi blagvi daniT enis<br />

amoWras mpirdeba. am sakiTxze policiaSi damkiTxes, Tumca rad ginda?!<br />

- saqme adgilidan ar iZvris. roca mivakiTxe, gamomZiebeli Secvlili<br />

damxvda. xels afareben gamgebels, sxvebi amiT sargebloben. dainaxes,<br />

rom gamgebels gauvida da muqarebma imata. me aravis meSinia, bolomde<br />

vibrZoleb am usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg, rac xaSurSi xdeba~<br />

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kenWisyras, bolos ki<br />

ruseTume „mrewvelebSi” aRmoCnda.<br />

Zalian cudi arCevanis winaSe<br />

dadga xaSuris mosaxleoba.<br />

erTi mxriv, ruseTume generali,<br />

meore mxriv, bizmesmeni. ubedureba<br />

isaa, rom nozaZis Stab-<br />

Si 50% ruseTume da dromoWmuli<br />

xalxis nakrebia.<br />

iciT, ra makvirvebs? yvelam<br />

viciT, valeri gelaSvili vinc<br />

aris, araerTxel damiweria<br />

„qronika+”-Si mis Sesaxeb, magram<br />

am ruseTume nozaZis amomrCevlis<br />

mikvirs. nuTu, daaviwydaT<br />

is wlebi, ra ubedurebaSi<br />

gagvatara ruseTma? xalxo, aRar<br />

scemT pativs omSi daRupul<br />

gmirebs da ltolvil mosaxleobas?<br />

warmoudgenelia CemTvis<br />

aseTi adamianis arCeva.<br />

rTuli arCevanis winaSe dadga<br />

mosaxleoba da es yvelaferi<br />

xelisuflebis bralia. „ocnebis”<br />

partiis arakompetenturma<br />

adgilobrivma Tavmjdomare giorgi<br />

guraspaSvilma awewdawewa<br />

yvelaferi da xaSurSi miviReT<br />

aseTi realoba. partiul-procentulad<br />

yvelaze dabali ma-<br />

Cvenebeli xaSurma aCvena. amiT<br />

batonma guraspaSvilma daamtkica,<br />

rom igi warumatebeli da<br />

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Tanxebi aramiznobrivad ixarjeboda,<br />

naTesavebisa da axloblebis<br />

dasaqmeba xdeboda<br />

aaip-ebSi 4 weliwadi, normalur<br />

da niWier xalxs komisia blokavda.<br />

gaWirvebuli mosaxleoba<br />

aravis ainteresebda.<br />

Sedegic dadga da „ocnebam”<br />

xaSuridan ver waiRo is, rasac<br />

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ukusvlaze da aq klanur mar-<br />

Tvaze, magram centraluri xe-<br />

lisuflebidan aravin gvismens.<br />

talaxiani quCebi, mouwesrigebeli<br />

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romelsac saSveli ar daadga<br />

da ramdeni erTi CamovTvalo?<br />

_ ra winadadebiT gamodix-<br />

arT?<br />

_ Tqveni gazeTis SeSveobiT<br />

minda mivmarTo xaSuris amomrCevels:<br />

am realobidan gamomdinare,<br />

ra mdgomareobaSic centralurma<br />

da adgilobrivma<br />

xelisuflebebma Cagvayenes, gvaqvs<br />

ori realoba _ an „kagebes”<br />

generali, romelsac aTas sibinZureSi<br />

aqvs xelebi gasvrili,<br />

an biznesmeni, romelmac danapirebi<br />

nawilobriv Seasrula.<br />

sakuTari biznes-mSeneblobiT<br />

cota xalxi mainc daasaqma da<br />

raRac mainc Seqmna.<br />

vici, rTuli arCevania, magram<br />

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yvela SemTxvevaSi gvmarTebs.<br />

imedia, dafiqrdebiT da swor<br />

arCevans gaakeTebT.<br />

oriode sityviT Cemzec minda,<br />

mogaxsenoT. winasaarCevno<br />

procesebidan gamomdinare, bevri<br />

muqara modis Cem winaaRmdeg.<br />

jer iyo gamgebeli damemuqra, _<br />

manqaniT unda gadagiaro, Tu<br />

rames dawer socialur qsel-<br />

Sio.<br />

mere „feisbuqis” saSualebiT<br />

usaxelo da ugvaro eqaunTebiT<br />

memuqrebian. zogi meubneba,<br />

„kaliaskaSi” unda CagajinoT,<br />

invalidad dagtovebTo. zogi<br />

blagvi daniT enis amoWras mpirdeba.<br />

am sakiTxze policiaSi<br />

damkiTxes, Tumca rad ginda?! _<br />

saqme adgilidan ar iZvris.<br />

roca mivakiTxe, gamomZiebeli<br />

Secvlili damxvda. xels<br />

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sargebloben. dainaxes, rom<br />

gamgebels gauvida da muqarebma<br />

imata.<br />

me aravis meSinia, bolomde<br />

vibrZoleb am usamarTlobis<br />

winaaRmdeg, rac xaSurSi xdeba.<br />

Tu momklaven da gamaCumeben,<br />

ise aravis araferi gamouva.<br />

moxedeT xaSurs, viZirebiT<br />

WaobSi, ukve 25 welia, 10 kaci<br />

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sikeTisken?<br />

vici, am statiis mere ufro<br />

met mters gaviCen, magram ra<br />

vqna? me Tu rame damemarTa, es<br />

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me arc erTis mxardamWeri ar<br />

var da aq rac davwere, sruli<br />

simarTlea. mTeli xaSuri amas<br />

saubrobs da realobac esaa. ar<br />

eRirsa xaSurs normaluri kandidati,<br />

dagvRales am dromoWmulma<br />

da komunisturi ideologiis<br />

gadmonaSTma avantiuristebma.<br />

ase iyideba yvela da yvelaferi<br />

xaSurSi. CvenTan saarCevno<br />

sabazro ekonomika yvavis.<br />

valeri gelaSvili<br />

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`xaSurSi Catarebuli arCevnebi yovelTvis<br />

gansxvavdeba sxva qalaqebisgan da<br />

regionebisgan. aq rac xdeba, esaa sruli<br />

sibnele. xalxis gamoyenebiT politikosebi<br />

fuls Souloben da vaWroben xmebiT.<br />

daviwyoT iqidan, rom arCevnebSi<br />

deputatobis 4 kandidati iyo gamokveTili.<br />

reitingul kandidatad ruseTume TofaZis<br />

`mrewvelebidan~ "kagebes" generali simon<br />

nozaZe, xolo "nacionalebidan" roin<br />

maxarobliZe saxeldeboda. damoukidebeli<br />

kandidati pavle lacabiZe iyo. mxolod<br />

bolos moiazreboda valeri gelaSvili<br />

saxelisuflebo gundidan. me araerTi posti<br />

damiweria socialur qselSi imis Sesaxeb,<br />

rom "nacionalebis" lideri maxarobliZe<br />

xmebs dauTmobda valeri gelaSvils da<br />

meore turSi is darCeboda. asec moxda,<br />

garigeba Sedga, "nacionalebma" daTmes da<br />

valeri gelaSvili meore turSia~<br />

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an Svili, romelsac jari ekuTvnis,<br />

an vinc xelisuflebis teroris<br />

qveS SeiZleba moxvedriliyo.<br />

Tu mosawoni iyo kandidati,<br />

ratom ar gamodian Sexvedraze<br />

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Si. rame teroristuli aqti mzaddeboda,<br />

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rom dadiodnen?<br />

_ samxaraulis azriT Tqven upiratesoba<br />

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Si. da sxva soflebs ar asaxelebs,<br />

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romelic amomrCevelTa met xmas miiRebs. meore turis daniS-<br />

vnis SemTxvevaSi, misi gamarTvis bolo vada 2 noemberia.<br />

26<br />

irakli sesiaSvili<br />

2 noembramde ki mTavaria,<br />

rogor Seafaseben meore turSi<br />

gasul im kandidatebs, romelTac<br />

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gauwies. arc aravis gahkvirvebia<br />

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erTi erTze „ocneba” da „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” dajda.<br />

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parlamentis maJoritari deputatebi<br />

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gaxdnen. maleve alasaniam uZ-<br />

Rebi Svilis saxeli miiRo biZinasgan<br />

da „ocnebas” gaemijna, Tumca<br />

samxaraulma, romelic Telavis<br />

maJoritari deputati iyo,<br />

alasanias, anu sakuTar partias im<br />

saRamosve uRalata da urekis<br />

ivaniSvilis navSi gadajda.<br />

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dedofliswyaro upiratesobiT<br />

mougo leqso TamazaSvils, Tavis<br />

samaJoritaro municipalitetSi<br />

mas Semdeg iq aRar Casula. maleve<br />

kedelaSvilis biuros oTaxi gaauqmes<br />

dedofliswyaros municipalitetSi<br />

da, Sesabamisad, mas mere<br />

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erT-erT olqs daemsgavsa<br />

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rom siRnaRi-dedofliswyaros<br />

olqSi meore turis aucilebloba<br />

ar dadga dRis wesrig-<br />

Si.<br />

magram rogor afaseben kandidatebi<br />

Catarebul arCevenebs,<br />

dRes „qronika+”-is mkiTxveli gaigebs.<br />

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jorj vaSingtoni ambobda:<br />

„cota vinmes Tu eyofa vaJkacoba,<br />

win aRudges mas, vinc yvelaze<br />

bevrs ixdis”.<br />

axmeta-Telavis<br />

saarCevno<br />

olqSi amomrCevelTa xmebis 46%<br />

miiRo „qarTuli ocnebis” kandidatma<br />

gela samxaraulma, „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” kandidatma<br />

Saqro terteraSvilma ki 32,27%.<br />

samxaraulis azriT, meore<br />

turi misTvis martivia da igi moigebs:<br />

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rom daviTvaleT, Cems xmebTan mimarTebiT<br />

naklebi Sedegi dafiqsirda,<br />

vidre Cemi konkurentis. es<br />

mosalodneli iyo”. igi darwmunebulia,<br />

rom maJoritaruli<br />

arCevnebis meore turSi gaimarjvebs.<br />

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meore turTan dakavSirebiT.<br />

warsuls CavabareT is dro,<br />

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zewola, daSineba, muqara.<br />

aseTi ram Cveni xelisuflebis<br />

pirobebSi ar momxdara da arc<br />

moxdeba. Tu dainiSna meore turi,<br />

gamarjvebisTvis bolomde vibrZolebT<br />

da darwmunebuli var,<br />

rom gavimarjvebT”, _ aRniSna<br />

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gansxvavebulad<br />

msjelobs<br />

Saqro terteraSvili:<br />

_ zogadad erTi suraTi iyo<br />

yvelgan, xelisufleba administraciul<br />

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ver daasaxeleben verc<br />

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CarTulebi, aseve<br />

misi partiis TanamSromlebi, sakrebulos<br />

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TanamSromlebi, sus-is Tanam-<br />

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Zalian saintereso meore turi iqneba~<br />

is dRes?! ar datoves arc erTi<br />

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interesi hqondaT? ra esaqmebodaT?<br />

ras elodebodnen? Tu ara<br />

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socialurad daucvelebze da<br />

sxva mowyvlad fenebze, baRsa da<br />

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eubnebodnen, rom isini<br />

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"qarTuli ocnebis" maJoritarobis<br />

kandidatia Telavi-yvarlis<br />

saarCevno olqSi. Ramis 12:00<br />

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2"-Tan interviuSi sesiaSvilma<br />

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4.5-jer meti upiratesobiT mougo.<br />

"Cveni monacemebiT, rac "qarTulma<br />

ocnebam" da me piradad Telavsa<br />

da yvarelSi miviReT, imaze mets<br />

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saarCevno komisiidan imitom, rom<br />

Cven maqsimalurad gavfiltreT<br />

da miuxedavad amisa, imaze maRali<br />

Sedegi gvaqvs, vidre egzitpolebma<br />

aCvena. Tqven iciT, rom<br />

egzitpolis mixedviT "qarTulma<br />

ocnebam" 53% aiRo, Cven cota<br />

meti gvaqvs~<br />

giorgi botkoveli<br />

daxmarebas. faqtobrivad, arCevnebze<br />

xelisuflebam mowyvlad<br />

jgufebze iZalada.<br />

_ Tumca mainc meore turia.<br />

_ ki, mainc meore turi dadga,<br />

radgan xelisufleba aris bolomde<br />

gakotrebuli da es xmebi<br />

miiRo mowyvladi fenebisgan da<br />

sabiujeto organizaciis Tanam-<br />

Sromlebisgan, aseve maTi ojaxis<br />

wevrebisgan. bunebrivi kiTxva Cndeba:<br />

faqtia, saxelisuflebo<br />

partiis warmomadgeneli sofel-<br />

Si Sedis da ar gamodis aravin<br />

masTan Sesaxvedrad. gadaamowmeT<br />

maTive oficialuri gverdebi,<br />

rogor unda miiRos man am soflidan<br />

mxardaWera. es aris warmoudgeneli.<br />

_ TelavSi gavrcelebuli in-<br />

formaciiT iyo mosyidva da<br />

Tanxis darigebac.<br />

_ ki msmenia ara marto Telav-<br />

Si, axmetaSic da mis soflebSic,<br />

arCevnebis wina Rames rig ojaxebSi<br />

daariges Tanxebi, sadac mosTxoves,<br />

rom maTi ojaxis wevrebs<br />

gadaeRoT Semoxazuli biuletenebisTvis<br />

suraTebi da es suraTebi<br />

gaegzavnaT soflebis warmomadgenlTan.<br />

yvela laparakobs<br />

amaze, magram radgan es adamianebi<br />

CarTulebi iyvnen am fulis<br />

aRebis procesSi, bunebrivia, isini<br />

ar ixsnebian da sajarod ar amboben.<br />

ranairi ganwyobac iyo, yvelam<br />

kargad viciT. gimeorebT: gadmoiReT<br />

nebismieri Sexvedra nebismieri<br />

„ocnebis” kandidatis da<br />

iq naxavT, rom SeiZleba iyos 5 an<br />

6 kaci moyvanili isic, viRacis<br />

naTesavi, sajaro moxelisa an<br />

probacioneri Tavisi naTesaviT,<br />

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turisTvis emzadeba<br />

`msgavsi binZuri arCevnebi ar yofila<br />

saqarTveloSi, yvela Tanamdebobis piri iyo<br />

CarTuli absoluturad gurjaanis<br />

municipalitetSi. am arCevnebSi yvelanairi<br />

administraciuli resursi iyo gamoyenebuli,<br />

xalxis daSinebis mizniT, maT Soris,<br />

socialuri daxmarebis moxsnis muqariT,<br />

samsaxuridan gagdebis dapirebiT,<br />

gansakuTrebiT muqara vrceldeboda skolisa<br />

da baRis pedagogebze, bevr adgilze<br />

moTxovnebi iyo, rom maT Riad<br />

daefiqsirebinaT, rogor xazavdnen 41-s da rac<br />

mTavaria, zogs imiT aSinebdnen, rom xma<br />

miecaT, zogs imiT aSinebdnen, rom arCevnebis<br />

dRes saxlidanac ki ar gamosuliyvnen. es aris<br />

uprecedentod binZuri arCevnebi~<br />

bis kandidatia Telavi-yvarlis<br />

saarCevno olqSi. Ramis 12:00 saa-<br />

TisTvis telekompania „rusTavi<br />

2"-Tan interviuSi sesiaSvilma ganacxada,<br />

rom „nacionalur moZraobas”<br />

Zalian didi sxvaobiT, 4.5-<br />

jer meti upiratesobiT mougo.<br />

„Cveni monacemebiT, rac „qar-<br />

Tulma ocnebam” da me piradad<br />

Telavsa da yvarelSi miviReT,<br />

imaze mets velodebiT centraluri<br />

saarCevno komisiidan<br />

imitom, rom Cven maqsimalurad<br />

gavfiltreT da miuxedavad amisa,<br />

Saqro terteraSvili<br />

giorgi RviniaSvili<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

imaze maRali Sedegi gvaqvs, vidre<br />

egzitpolebma aCvena. Tqven iciT,<br />

rom egzitpolis mixedviT „qarTulma<br />

ocnebam” 53% aiRo, Cven<br />

cota meti gvaqvs. procentulad<br />

TelavSi „nacionalur moZraobasa”<br />

da „qarTul ocnebas” Soris<br />

Zalian didi sxvaobaa. getyviT<br />

axlave, daaxloebiT, oTxnaxevarjer<br />

metia”, _ ganacxada irakli<br />

sesiaSvilma.<br />

sinamdvileSi, xmebis daTvlis<br />

Sedegad aRmoCnda, rom „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis” kandidatebidan erTerTi<br />

yvelaze dabali Sedegi<br />

(41%) irakli sesiaSvilma miiRo.<br />

is „nacionaluri moZraobis” kandidats,<br />

giorgi botkovels mxolod<br />

5%-iT uswrebs.<br />

Telavi-yvarlis 27-e maJoritarul<br />

saarCevno olqSi arsebuli<br />

47-ve saarCevno ubnis monacemebiT,<br />

irakli sesiaSvils xmebis<br />

41% aqvs, „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />

kandidatma giorgi botkovelma<br />

ki 36% miiRo.<br />

giorgi botkovelis Sefase-<br />

biT, igi meore turSi elodeba,<br />

rom aqtivoba iqneba: „radgan adamianebs<br />

ukve mobezrdaT am usaqmurebis<br />

yureba. mobezrdaT gaCerebuli<br />

proeqtebis yureba.<br />

ufro gauWirdaT”, – acxadebs<br />

giorgi botkoveli, „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” maJoritarobis kandidati<br />

Telavi-yvarlis saarCevno<br />

olqSi, romelic TelavSi<br />

gasamarTi maJoritaruli arCevnebis<br />

meore turSi miiRebs monawileobas.<br />

„mTeli am periodis ganmavlobaSi<br />

avaldebulebdnen administraciul<br />

resurss, rom maT 20-30<br />

adamiani unda mieyvanaT ubnebze<br />

da ase moegoT arCevnebi, magram<br />

Cven am yvelafers Zalian kargad<br />

gavumklavdiT.<br />

irakli sesiaSvili ambobda,<br />

TiTqos, man 4,5-jer gaimarjva<br />

Cemze da ufro meti xma miiRo.<br />

cota adre mouvida am yvelafris<br />

aRniSvna da Sampanurebis gaxsna.<br />

dRes miviReT Sedegi, rom, sul<br />

raRac, 1600 xmiT aris win”, _<br />

aRniSnavs botkoveli.<br />

„me gavagrZeleb xalxTan urTierTobas,<br />

gavagrZeleb saarCevno<br />

kampanias da vpirdebi „qarTul<br />

ocnebas”, rom Telavsa da yvarelSi,<br />

mTlianad kaxeTsa da saqar-<br />

TveloSi, meore turSi yvelgan<br />

davamarcxebT. vfiqrob, rom<br />

Zalian saintereso meore turi<br />

iqneba”, _ acxadebs botkoveli<br />

gurjaanSi arCevnebi dasrulebuli<br />

ar iyo, rom „ocnebis” mxardamWerebma<br />

manqanebiT siaruli<br />

daiwyes da droSebis frialiTa<br />

da signaliT qalaqs Tavisi kandidatis<br />

gamarjvebas amcnobdnen,<br />

Tumca ramdenime saaTSi gairkva,<br />

rom sonRulaSvilma ver gadalaxa<br />

50%-ani barieri da swored<br />

RviniaSvilTan mouwia kvlav me-<br />

`erTi suraTi iyo yvelgan, xelisufleba<br />

administraciul resurss iyenebda bolomde.<br />

ver daasaxeleben verc erT sofels, aseve<br />

qalaq axmetas, sadac ar iyvnen gamgeblis<br />

warmomadgenlebi CarTulebi, aseve misi<br />

partiis TanamSromlebi, sakrebulos wevrebi,<br />

TviTon gamgeobis TanamSromlebi, sus-is<br />

TanamSromlebi, romlebsac ra esaqmebodaT<br />

yovel sofelSi arCevnebis dRes?! ar datoves<br />

arc erTi sofeli, sadac ar Sediodnen, ra<br />

interesi hqondaT? ra esaqmebodaT? ras<br />

elodebodnen? Tu ara daSinebas, diax,<br />

pensionerebze, socialurad daucvelebze da<br />

sxva mowyvlad fenebze, baRsa da skolaSi<br />

dasaqmebulebs eubnebodnen, rom Tu ar<br />

Semoxazavdnen, dakargavdnen samsaxurs, xolo<br />

pensionerebs da socialurad daucvelebs<br />

eubnebodnen, rom isini meore dRidan veRar<br />

miiRebdnen daxmarebas. faqtobrivad, arCevnebze<br />

xelisuflebam mowyvlad jgufebze iZalada~<br />

ore turSi brZola.<br />

giorgi RviniaSvili fiqrobs,<br />

rom es yvelaze binZuri arCevnebi<br />

iyo, sadac mosaxleoba yvelaze<br />

daSinebuli da gaubedure-<br />

buli Canda:<br />

_ amaT rac ikadres msgavsi ram<br />

ar maxsovs, saSinelebebi akadres<br />

xalxs, damuqrebebiT, saxlSi SevardnebiT<br />

da ar vici raa, eseni<br />

vis eZaxian sisxlismsmelebs saer-<br />

Tod? ramdeni arCevnebi maqvs<br />

Catarebuli kaxeTSi, magas rogor<br />

vikadrebdi, vinmesTvis damevalebina,<br />

saxlSi SeuvardiT-Tqo?!<br />

`2012 wels `qarTulma ocnebam~ kaxeTSi 8<br />

olqidan 3 maJoritari gaiyvana: zviadauri,<br />

xidaSeli da samxarauli. danarCeni<br />

`nacionalebs~ ergoT wilad. Tumca maleve<br />

lagodexisa da yvarlis parlamentis<br />

maJoritari deputatebi daportirdnen da<br />

uceb erT mSvenier dRes q-ocnebelebi gaxdnen.<br />

maleve alasaniam uZRebi Svilis saxeli miiRo<br />

biZinasgan da `ocnebas~ gaemijna, Tumca<br />

samxaraulma, romelic Telavis maJoritari<br />

deputati iyo, alasanias, anu sakuTar partias<br />

im saRamosve uRalata da urekis ivaniSvilis<br />

navSi gadajda~<br />

dRes ici, ra mdgomareobaa<br />

xalxSi? mezobeli mezobels ver<br />

elaparakeba, gareT gaxedvis eSiniaT<br />

adamianebs, xalxs xma ver<br />

amouRia, sami Tve rom wyali ar<br />

aqvs sofels da gamgeblisTvis<br />

ver gaubediaT glexebs Tavis<br />

gaWirvebaze saubari, meti raRa<br />

unda vTqva?<br />

_ zogadi SefasebiT iyo gay-<br />

albeba?<br />

_ msgavsi binZuri arCevnebi ar<br />

yofila saqarTveloSi, yvela<br />

Tanamdebobis piri iyo CarTuli<br />

absoluturad gurjaanis municipalitetSi.<br />

am arCevnebSi yvelanairi<br />

administraciuli resursi<br />

iyo gamoyenebuli, xalxis<br />

daSinebis mizniT, maT Soris, socialuri<br />

daxmarebis moxsnis muqariT,<br />

samsaxuridan gagdebis dapirebiT,<br />

gansakuTrebiT muqara<br />

vrceldeboda skolisa da baRis<br />

pedagogebze, bevr adgilze moTxovnebi<br />

iyo, rom maT Riad daefiqsirebinaT,<br />

rogor xazavdnen 41-<br />

s da rac mTavaria, zogs imiT<br />

aSinebdnen, rom xma miecaT, zogs<br />

imiT aSinebdnen, rom arCevnebis<br />

dRes saxlidanac ki ar gamosuliyvnen.<br />

es aris uprecedentod<br />

binZuri arCevnebi.<br />

lagodexSi lagodexi-yvarlis<br />

#26 olqSi guram maWaraSvilma,<br />

„qarTuli ocneba” – 37.51%<br />

aiRo, guram kakalaSvilma, „enm”<br />

– 24.59%.<br />

meore turSi gadasul „enemes”<br />

kandidats miaCnia, rom lagodex-<br />

Si „ocnebis” mier dadgmuli gay-<br />

albeba bolos kuriozad eqca<br />

Tavad „ocnebas”:<br />

_ lagodexSi seriozuli gayalbeba<br />

iyo, aseTi ram gagigiaT?<br />

saarCevno ubanze ar iyo Sesabamisi<br />

biuleteni, ar eweros biuletenSi<br />

im olqis kandidati da<br />

amaze xmas ar iRebdes komisiis<br />

Tavmjdomare, sanamde erT-erTi<br />

Cemi mxardamWeri ar mivida xmis<br />

misacemad, manamde 39 biuleteni<br />

ukve Cayrili iyo yuTSi.<br />

am magaliTze meti rame unda<br />

guram kakalaSvili<br />

vTqva? es iyo Cveulebrivi gayalbeba.<br />

masobrivi teroris miuxedavad,<br />

didi Carevebis miuxedavad,<br />

didi zewolebis miuxedavad, „ocnebis”<br />

kandidatma mainc ver SeZlo<br />

misTvis sasurveli xmebis mogroveba.<br />

me, rogorc lagodexeli<br />

kaci, qarTveli kaci, vagrZeleb<br />

brZolas Cemi qveynisTvis. movuwodeb<br />

xelisuflebas, rac am<br />

arCevnebze gvaCvenes gayalbebis<br />

speqtaklebi, es maT saxes ufro<br />

da ufro kargad avlens!<br />

dabolos, miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom zurab WiaberaSvilma piroba<br />

momca, rom komentars gaakeTebda<br />

da arCevnebs Seafasebda, aRmoCnda,<br />

rom baton zurabs CvenTvis<br />

aRar ecala da telefonze saer-<br />

Tod aRar gvipasuxa. samwuxaroa<br />

mediasTan misi amgvari damokidebuleba.<br />

dasasrul, vaJa ocnebaze ambobda:<br />

„fiqriani da mosazrebiani<br />

kacic Zlier ufrTxis ocnebas, _<br />

ufrTxis imitom, rom ocneba, jer<br />

erTi, tvins ulayebs kacsa da meore<br />

_ saqmes acdens. fiqriani<br />

kaci mxolod fiqrobs da magradaca<br />

fiqrobs. ras fiqrobs? _<br />

hm!.. gana, cota ram aris safiqrebeli<br />

qveyanaze! nabijs ver gadasdgam,<br />

rom fiqri ar iyos saWiro.<br />

diaR, fiqriani, mosazrebiani<br />

adamiani yvelaferze fiqrobs,<br />

rac ki ram cxovrebaSi xdeba:<br />

arafrisTvis arc Tvalebs, arc<br />

gonebas ar zogavs, oRond ki simarTle,<br />

sinamdvile Seityos,<br />

Tavisa da qveynis sasargeblo ram<br />

gaigos; eZiebs mizezs, ukvirdeba<br />

ra Sedegs... “<br />

faqti erTia: mosaxleobas<br />

arCevanis gakeTebaze metad, ukve,<br />

arCevnebze misvlac aRar uxaria...<br />

ratom?<br />

daiRala qveyana...<br />

daiRala ocnebiT, imediT da<br />

xvalindeli dRis lodiniT...<br />

imedia, yvelaferi kargad iqneba..<br />

„warmateba aris damarcxebaTa<br />

seria enTuziazmis dakargvis<br />

gareSe”, – uinston CerCili.<br />

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saparlamento postsarCevno<br />

qalaqis<br />

sakanonmdeblo organoSi sakon-<br />

xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />

stitucio umravlesobiT mosvlis<br />

SemTxvevaSi „qarTulma ocnebam”,<br />

sxva sakiTxebTan erTad, parlamentis quTaisidan TbilisSi ga-<br />

datana daaanonsa.<br />

amJamad moqmedi konstituciis<br />

ambebi,<br />

amJamad moqmedi konstituciis<br />

me-3 Tavis me-4 muxlSi vkiTxu-<br />

lobT:<br />

1. parlamentis adgilsamyofe-<br />

lia qalaqi quTaisi, parlamentis<br />

sasaxle.<br />

2. parlamentis adgilsamyof-<br />

lis droebiT Secvla sxdomis, an<br />

sesiis mowvevis mizniT dasaSvebia<br />

mxolod sagangebo da saomari<br />

mdgomareobebis dros. parlamen-<br />

tis adgilsamyoflis droebiT<br />

Secvlis Sesaxeb gadawyvetilebas<br />

plenaruli sxdomebis kviraSi<br />

iRebs parlamentis Tavmjdomare,<br />

xolo saqarTvelos konstituci-<br />

is 61-e muxlis me-2 punqtiT<br />

gaTvaliswinebul SemTxvevebSi _<br />

saqarTvelos prezidenti.<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” mier gaJRerebuli<br />

gancxadebis Tanaxmad ki<br />

aRniSnul Canawers Secvla elodeba,<br />

rac quTaiss sabolood daukargavs<br />

Sanss, SeinarCunos statusi,<br />

rac misi ganviTarebis seriozul<br />

perspeqtivebs saxavda.<br />

quTaisSi arsebuli parlamentis<br />

Senoba 300 milion larze meti dajda.<br />

igi espaneli arqiteqtoris,<br />

alberto diegos proeqtis mixedviT<br />

aigo. 4200 kv.m-ze arsebul<br />

farTSi 270-mde kabineti da ramdenime<br />

sakonferencio darbazia<br />

ganTavsebuli. Senoba aRWurvilia<br />

Tanamedrove teqnikiT da iq samuSaod<br />

maqsimalurad komfortuli<br />

garemoa Seqmnili. Tu dRes quTais-<br />

Si parlamentis mimdebare teritoriaze<br />

moxvdebiT, TvalSi mogxvdebaT<br />

amovardnili da damsxvreuli<br />

filebi, daJanguli Zelskamebi, sam-<br />

Seneblo narCenebi da mouwesrigebeli<br />

mwvane safari. gasuli 4 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi sakanonmdeblo organos<br />

irgvliv araferi gakeTebula.<br />

rCeba STabeWdileba, rom daxarjuli<br />

milionebis wyalSi gadayra arc<br />

aravis aRelvebs.<br />

mmarTveli gundi mTeli 4 weli<br />

ocnebobda dedaqalaqSi gadabargebaze<br />

da amisTvis sxvadasxva<br />

versias sTavazobda sazogadoebas.<br />

Cveni zogierTi kanonmdebeli miiCnevda,<br />

rom parlamenti axlos unda<br />

iyos xalxTan. es is SemTxvevaa,<br />

roca vambobT xalxs da vgulisxmobT<br />

Tbiliss. am „argumentma~ sazogadoebis<br />

im nawilis aRSfoTeba<br />

gamoiwvia, romelic fiqrobs, rom<br />

quTaisSi, baTumSi, bolnissa Tu aspinZaSi<br />

xalxi cxovrobs da Tbilisis<br />

msgavsad isinic saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeebi arian. sakanonmdeblo<br />

`quTaisSi arsebuli parlamentis Senoba 300<br />

milion larze meti dajda. igi espaneli<br />

arqiteqtoris, alberto diegos proeqtis<br />

mixedviT aigo. 4200 kv.m-ze arsebul farTSi<br />

270-mde kabineti da ramdenime sakonferencio<br />

darbazia ganTavsebuli. Senoba aRWurvilia<br />

Tanamedrove teqnikiT da iq samuSaod<br />

maqsimalurad komfortuli garemoa Seqmnili.<br />

Tu dRes quTaisSi parlamentis mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze moxvdebiT, TvalSi mogxvdebaT<br />

amovardnili da damsxvreuli filebi,<br />

daJanguli Zelskamebi, samSeneblo narCenebi da<br />

mouwesrigebeli mwvane safari. gasuli 4 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi sakanonmdeblo organos irgvliv<br />

araferi gakeTebula. rCeba STabeWdileba, rom<br />

daxarjuli milionebis wyalSi gadayra arc<br />

aravis aRelvebs~<br />

organos gadatanis msurvelebi<br />

mTavrobasTan komunikaciis sir-<br />

Tuleebzec saubrobdnen. ubralod,<br />

daaviwydaT, rom XXI saukuneSi,<br />

Tanamedrove teqnologiebis arsebobis<br />

pirobebSi, komunikacia<br />

problemas ar unda warmoadgendes.<br />

arc im mizezma imuSava, romlis<br />

mixedviTac, TiTqos, teritoria,<br />

sadac Senobaa aRmarTuli, radiaciulia.<br />

es ususuri versia specialistebis<br />

mier kvlevis Catarebis<br />

Semdeg gaqarwylda. am da sxva<br />

mravali mizezis miuxedavad „qarTulma<br />

ocnebam” sakonstitucio cvlilebisTvis<br />

Sesabamisi raodenobis<br />

mxardamWerTa ararsebobis<br />

gamo quTaisidan sakanonmdeblo<br />

organos gadatana ver moaxerxa da<br />

deputatebmac „gadasaxlebis” periods<br />

„gmirulad” gauZles.<br />

saarCevno kampaniis dros Jurnalistebi<br />

(da ara marto isini)<br />

interesdebodnen, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

mier quTaisSi wardgenili<br />

maJoritarobis kandidatebi dauWeren<br />

Tu ara mxars parlamentis<br />

TbilisSi gadatanas? maT xmamaRla<br />

ganacxades, rom aRniSnul cvlilebas<br />

ar miesalmebian. es pozicia<br />

mediasTan Sexvedrisas koba<br />

narCemaSvilma daadastura, romelic<br />

mandatis mosapoveblad quTaisis<br />

49-e saarCevno olqSi „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” warmomadgenel<br />

gigi wereTels meore turSi<br />

daupirispirdeba.<br />

„parlamenti mSvenier adgilzea<br />

quTaisSi, Cemi azriT, qalaqSi, romelic<br />

istoriulad aris kulturuli,<br />

saganmanaTleblo da politikuri<br />

centri. Cemi oponentebis<br />

sayuradRebod minda vTqva, _ Tu<br />

gsurT, rom Tqveni saarCevno kampania<br />

imaze aagoT, rom quTaisidan<br />

gadaaqvT parlamenti, minda giTxraT,<br />

rom Tqven SecdomaSi SeiyvanT<br />

amomrCevels. Zalian mkafiod<br />

ramdenime dRis win premier-ministrma<br />

ganacxada, rom is da umravlesoba<br />

ar daapirebs xelis gadagrexiT<br />

moqmedebas da Tu quTaisel<br />

xalxs surs, parlamenti iq<br />

iyos, parlamenti iqneba quTaisSi.<br />

mec amas vuWer mxars!” _ acxadebs<br />

narCemaSvili da dasZens, rom 3-4<br />

weliwadSi quTaisi sul sxva Sesa-<br />

Zleblobebis qalaqi gaxdeba. nar-<br />

CemaSvilisve TqmiT, ramdenime<br />

dRis winaT premieris sazogadoebasTan<br />

gamarTulma Sexvedram mas<br />

gancda gauCina da garantia imisa,<br />

rom aRniSnul sakiTxze msjeloba<br />

ar iqneba da Tuki es sakiTxi daismeba,<br />

is winaaRmdeg miscems xmas.<br />

narCemaSvili 99,9%-iT darwmunebulia,<br />

rom kanonmdeblebs aRniSnulis<br />

ganxilva ar mouwevT.<br />

rTuli warmosadgenia, ramdenad<br />

gamarTldeba koba narCemaSvilis<br />

sityvebi da SeunarCunebs Tu<br />

ara „qarTuli ocneba” quTaiss saparlamento<br />

dedaqalaqis statuss?<br />

yoveli SemTxvevisTvis, aRniSnuls<br />

eWvis TvaliT uyurebs „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” kandidati da<br />

narCemaSvilis konkurenti gigi<br />

wereTeli, romelic saqarTvelos<br />

premier-ministrsa da „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis” uflebamosil pirebs mouwodebs,<br />

gancxadeba gaakeTon, romliTac<br />

mmarTveli gundis kandidatis<br />

mosaxleobisTvis micemul<br />

pirobas daadastureben. winaaRmdeg<br />

SemTxvevaSi, wereTeli miiCnevs,<br />

rom narCemaSvili an ar iziarebs<br />

„ocnebis” azrs, an amomrCevlebTan<br />

teqnikur svlas akeTebs.<br />

imis gasarkvevad, Tu ratomaa<br />

quTaisisTvis saparlamento statusis<br />

SenarCuneba mniSvnelovani<br />

da ras dakargavs qalaqi „ocnebis”<br />

ideis ganxorcielebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />

„qronika+” sazogadoebis im warmomadgenlebs<br />

gaesaubra, romlebic<br />

parlamentis quTaisidan gadatanis<br />

mowinaaRmdegeTa Soris arian.<br />

qeTevan berZeniSvili _ ar-<br />

asamTavrobo organizacia „ufl-<br />

ebebisa da ganaTlebisaTvis”:<br />

_ quTaisis, imereTisa da dasavleT<br />

saqarTvelos mniSvnelovani<br />

nawilis ganviTareba politikuri<br />

gadawyvetilebis Sedegad SeiZleba<br />

moxdes. parlamentis quTaisSi<br />

gadmotana swored am ideas emsaxureboda.<br />

dRes, Tanamedrove epoqaSi,<br />

rodesac wina wlebTan SedarebiT<br />

sagrZnoblad gaumjobesebulia<br />

internet teqnologiebi, ususurad<br />

meCveneba xelisuflebis<br />

warmomadgenlebisgan imis gancxadeba,<br />

rom parlamentisa da mTavrobis<br />

wevrebs Tu geografiulad<br />

erT arealSi ar eqnebaT Sexvedra,<br />

isini ver SeZleben komunikacias.<br />

Turme, SeuZlebeli yofila quTaisSi<br />

ucxouri delegaciebis maspinZloba;<br />

rom parlamenti da mTavroba<br />

unda iyos erTad. minda, maT<br />

Sevaxseno, rom interneti saSualebas<br />

iZleva, ara marto socialur<br />

qselSi vafiqsiroT mosazrebebi da<br />

ubralod gaverToT, aramed distanciuradac<br />

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ara mgonia, marTebuli iyos<br />

maTi mxridan im argumentebze apelireba,<br />

rom amis gamo saqmianoba-<br />

Si xeli eSlebaT.<br />

darwmunebuli var, rom parlamentis<br />

quTaisidan gadatanis<br />

SemTxvevaSi kidev ufro gaZlierdeba<br />

qalaqidan migraciis procesi.<br />

axalgazrdebs kidev ufro naklebad<br />

eqnebaT rwmena, rom SeZleben<br />

Seqmnan sakuTari momavali aq.<br />

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imaze saubari, rom aq Seiqmneba<br />

sauniversiteto centri da es<br />

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da, amave dros, Zalian Soreuli<br />

momavlis perspeqtiva mgonia. am<br />

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Caanacvlebs saparlamento statusis<br />

arsebobas. deputatebma ara<br />

marto pirad keTildReobaze unda<br />

izrunon, aramed quTaisisa da sxva<br />

qalaqebis ganviTarebazec. Tbilisi,<br />

romelic Sida mograciis Sedegad<br />

gadatvirTulia mosaxleobiT,<br />

satransporto saSualebebiT da,<br />

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yalibdeba, rogorc qalaqi-saxelmwifo.<br />

igi izrdeba, magram mxolod<br />

qveynis sxva qalaqebisa da soflebis<br />

xarjze. Tavad TbiliselTa<br />

didi nawilic xvdeba, rom regionebis<br />

mcxovrebTa masobrivi migracia<br />

dedaqalaqs mxolod problemebs<br />

uqmnis. qveynis pirvel qalaqs<br />

araferi akldeba, Tu sakanonmdeblo<br />

organo iq ar ifunqcionirebs,<br />

quTaissa da dasavleT saqarTvelos<br />

ki es namdvilad waadgeba. Zalian<br />

mainteresebs, parlamentis gadatanis<br />

SemTxvevaSi ras upireben<br />

Senobas, romlis funqciuri datvirTva<br />

sxva miznebiT naklebad warmosadgenia?<br />

aRniSnuli Senoba mowyobilia<br />

konkretulad sakanonmdeblo<br />

organosTvis da misi, rogorc<br />

saswavlo dawesebulebad, an sxva<br />

saxiT gamoyeneba, ubralod, warmoudgenelia.<br />

Cemi azriT, saxelmwifoebrivad<br />

azrovneba mniSvnelovania<br />

da unda gamovideT ara piradi<br />

komfortidan, aramed qveynis<br />

interesebidan. imedi maqvs, rom<br />

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gaurkveveli momavali<br />

anu<br />

`parlamenti mSvenier adgilzea quTaisSi, Cemi azriT, qalaqSi,<br />

koba narCemaSvili<br />

„qarTuli ocneba” ar miiRebs qu-<br />

TaisisTvis saziano gadawyvetilebas<br />

da procesis inicirebiT qalaqis<br />

kvdomis mizezi ar gaxdeba.<br />

giorgi TevdoraZe _ parlamen-<br />

tari, „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />

wevri:<br />

_ quTaisis yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />

problema aris misi funqcia.<br />

es aris sakiTxi, romelic axali<br />

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qalaqSi arsebuli mZime ekonomikuri<br />

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`enm~?<br />

gamoc axalgazrdoba mas permanentulad<br />

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saparlamento quTaisis arsebobis<br />

SemTxvevaSi konkretulad aris<br />

garkveuli misi perspeqtiva, momavali<br />

da ganviTarebis SesaZlebloba,<br />

rac niSnavs imas, rom qalaqi<br />

iqneba qveynis politikuri centri,<br />

es funqcia aseve seriozulad<br />

aris mibmuli ekonomikasTan. martivad<br />

rom vTqvaT, im adamianebis<br />

ricxvi, romlebic mzad iqnebian,<br />

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meti iqneba saparlamento<br />

statusis pirobebSi, vidre bundovani<br />

momavlis mqone qalaqis arsebobis<br />

SemTxvevaSi. amitom Cven<br />

vfiqrobT, rom saparlamento funqciis<br />

quTaisi es aris ekonomikurad<br />

Zlieri qalaqi, rasac mohyveba<br />

samuSao adgiliebi, TviTrealizebis<br />

meti Sansi, rac mosaxleobisTvis,<br />

maTi duxWiri yoveldRiurobis<br />

pirobebSi, mniSvnelovani<br />

Svela iqneba. rac mTavaria, yvelafer<br />

amiT SevaCerebT umniSvnelovanes<br />

fatalur process _<br />

qalaqidan inteleqtis gadinebas.<br />

dRes mosaxleobas eubnebian,<br />

rom parlamentSi yvela ver dsaqmdeba<br />

da Sesabamisad, is ver Seqmnis<br />

fons qalaqSi. vfiqrob, rom am<br />

kuTxiT sakiTxis dayeneba mcdaria<br />

da mosaxleobis SecdomaSi Seyvana.<br />

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ar niSnavs imas, rom dasaqmebis<br />

adgili sakanonmdeblo organo<br />

iqneba. statusi niSnavs bevr investors,<br />

mZlavr kerZo seqtors da<br />

imas, rom samuSao adgilebi Seiqmneba<br />

ara parlamentSi, aramed sakanonmdeblo<br />

organos aq arsebobis<br />

pirobebSi. biznesis daintereseba<br />

saparlamento quTaisiT gacilebiT<br />

metadaa SesaZlebeli, vidre<br />

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Tavisi konkretuli perspeqtiva.<br />

_ parlamentis gadatanis<br />

SemTxvevaSi ra mesijs miiRebs<br />

qalaqi?<br />

_ Tuki „ocnebam” SeZlo da mar-<br />

Tla gadaitana parlamenti quTaisidan,<br />

es iqneba imis mesiji, rom<br />

saqarTvelos dRevandel xelisuflebas<br />

ar ainteresebs regionuli<br />

ganviTareba, decentralizacia. igi<br />

kvlav rCeba Tbilisis monocentrizmis<br />

momxred, rac 90-iani<br />

wlebidan gansakuTrebiT ikveTeba<br />

da amis gamo, praqtikulad, mxolod<br />

da mxolod, dedaqalaqi ganviTarda.<br />

sazogadoeba ukve Sedarebas<br />

akeTebs da Tavkombalas uwodebs<br />

mas. praqtkulad, scenaris ase<br />

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da mTlianad dasavleT<br />

saqarTvelos ganviTarebis aranairi<br />

perspeqtiva ar eqneba da<br />

quTaisSi daiwyeba Seuqcevadi kvdomis<br />

procesi, rac xelisuflebas<br />

namdvilad ar unda awyobdes.<br />

monocentrizmis pirobebSi Tbilisic<br />

ver viTardeba. dedaqalaqSi<br />

meti Casuli adamiani Cndeba, metadaa<br />

gajerebuli adamianiuri resursiT,<br />

rac, bunebrivia, adgilobrivi<br />

mosaxleobisTvis iq cxovrebas<br />

komfortuls namdvilad ar<br />

xdis. rac ufro bevri kulturuli,<br />

socialuri da politikuri<br />

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romelic istoriulad aris kulturuli, saganmanaTleblo da<br />

politikuri centri. Cemi oponentebis sayuradRebod minda vTqva, - Tu<br />

gsurT, rom Tqveni saarCevno kampania imaze aagoT, rom quTaisidan<br />

gadaaqvT parlamenti, minda giTxraT, rom Tqven SecdomaSi SeiyvanT<br />

amomrCevels. Zalian mkafiod ramdenime dRis win premier-ministrma<br />

ganacxada, rom is da umravleosaba ar daapirebs xelis gadagrexiT<br />

moqmedebas da Tu quTaisel xalxs surs, parlamenti iq iyos,<br />

parlamenti iqneba quTaisSi. mec amas vuWer mxars!~<br />

giorgi TevdoraZe<br />

centri iqneba qveyanaSi, miT ufro<br />

metad ganviTardeba procesebi da<br />

gveyoleba meti ganaTlebuli, gemovnebiani,<br />

momavalze orientirebuli<br />

adamiani. es yvelaferi aris<br />

qveyanaSi social-ekonomikuri winsvlis<br />

winapiroba. „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

ideis ganxorcielebis pirobebSi<br />

ara marto quTaisi darCeba<br />

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rac mTavaria, dedaqalaqi, romlis<br />

keTili momavali, romlis av-kargi<br />

damokidebulia swored regionebis<br />

ganviTarebaze. SeuZlebelia ganvixilavdeT<br />

calke ganviTarebul<br />

Tbiliss, Tuki ar ganviTardeba bolnisi,<br />

rusTavi, zugdidi Tu quT-<br />

apirebs<br />

aisi. imis mcdeloba, rom dedaqalaqSi<br />

unda gavakeToT uyvelafris<br />

akumulireba, mcdari Sexedulebaa<br />

da swored snobizms ukav-<br />

Sirdeba, _ parlamentis wevrebsa<br />

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xeli.<br />

_ ramdenad seriozulad aRiqvamT<br />

koba narCemaSvilis gancxadebas,<br />

rom is mxars dauWers parla-<br />

mentis quTaisSi darCenas?<br />

_ xelis aRebiT ar SemiZlia,<br />

vinmes gulwrfelobaze da pirovnul<br />

Rirebulebebze visaubro,<br />

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TvalsazrisiT ganixileba, es iqneba<br />

parlamentis quTaisidan TbilisSi<br />

dabruneba. ase rom, es iaffasiani<br />

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da qveynis momavalze dafiqrebuli<br />

im adamianis pozicia, romelic<br />

SeewinaaRmdegeba sakuTar partias<br />

da dinebis aRma wava imisTvis, rom<br />

quTaiss realuri momavali hqondes.<br />

yvelafers dro gviCvenebs.<br />

xaTuna canava _ „quTaisis qal-<br />

Ta klubi”:<br />

_ quTaisSi parlamentis arseboba<br />

xels Seuwyobs socialur-politikuri,<br />

samxedro, demografiuli,<br />

ekonomikuri da qveynis sxva siZlieris<br />

ganmsazRvreli faqtorebis<br />

gaaqtiurebas. qveyanaSi, sadac teritoriebis<br />

mniSvnelovani nawili<br />

okupirebulia, mxolod centris<br />

ganviTarebaze orientacia kidev<br />

ufro asustebs qveynis strategiul<br />

poziciebs. parlamentis qu-<br />

TaisSi funqcionireba gacilebiT<br />

metia, vidre mxolod am regionSi<br />

da kerZod konkretul qalaqSi<br />

mcxovrebTa keTildReobaze zrunva.<br />

eTnikuri erTgvarovnebiT<br />

gamorCeul saxelmwifoSi arc ise<br />

Znelia damkvidrebuli mankieri<br />

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statusiT ver SeZlo<br />

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sauniversiteto da saganmana-<br />

Tleblo statusiT quTaisis warmodgena<br />

kidev ufro naklebad damajarebeli<br />

aRmoCndeba.<br />

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da kulturuli potencialis<br />

realizaciisTvis parlamentis<br />

adgilsamyofelis quTaisSi gansazRvra<br />

ualternativo gadawyvetilebaa.<br />

Tu Tanamedrove qarTuli sazogadoeba<br />

erTiandeba demokratiuli<br />

ideebiT, albaT im mosazrebasac<br />

unda eTanxmebodes, rom qveynis<br />

yvela politikuri, ekonomikuri,<br />

socialuri da kulturuli<br />

resursi mxolod erT konkretul<br />

sivrceSi ar unda ganTavsdes. sakanonmdeblo<br />

organos adgilmdebareoba<br />

ar niSnavs decentralizacias,<br />

vinaidan am formiT ar xdeba<br />

raime sajaro xelisuflebis gadacema<br />

regionuli da adgilobrivi<br />

xelisuflebisTvis. Sesabamisad,<br />

mTavrobasTan da sxva saxelisuflebo<br />

organoebTan da uwyebebT-<br />

ras<br />

an saTanamSromlod raime Zireuli<br />

cvlilebebi ar aris saWiro. rodesac<br />

saubroben sirTuleebze, Sei-<br />

Zleba warmovidginoT gazrdili<br />

warmomadgenlobiTi xarjebi. Tumca<br />

Tu am yvelafers davupirispirebT<br />

sakuTari mosaxleobisTvis<br />

sajaro sivrceebze Tanabari<br />

xelmisawvdomobis mniSvnelobas,<br />

Sesabamisad yvela administraciuli<br />

xarji da transportirebisTvis<br />

daxarjuli dro baTilia.<br />

Zalian didi Zalisxmeva iqneba<br />

saWiro imisTvis, rom qalaqma sxva<br />

funqcia ase mokle droSi SeiZinos.<br />

samwuxarod, rCeba STabeWdileba,<br />

rom sikeTeebi (qalaqis infrastruqturaze<br />

zrunva, axali servisebis<br />

ganviTareba, turistuli garemos<br />

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gadmotanas SeiZleba moetana<br />

regionisTvis, xelovnurad Sez-<br />

Rudes da srulad ar gamoiyenes.<br />

resursebis blokirebam qalaqis<br />

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SeuSala xeli.<br />

axali mowvevis parlamentis<br />

Sekrebamde arcTu ise didi dro<br />

darCa. Sesabamisad, male gairkveva,<br />

qarTveli parlamentarebi rusTavelis<br />

prospeqtze aRmarTul SenobaSi<br />

saqmianobas ufro mniSvnelovnad<br />

miiCneven, Tu quTaisisTvis<br />

Sansis micemas? bunebrivia,<br />

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romelmac qveynis istoriaSi udidesi<br />

roli Seasrula, sasicocxlod<br />

sWirdeba. arsebuli statusis<br />

sapirwoned SemoTavazebuli variantebi<br />

ki mxolod cru imedebia da<br />

sxva araferi. nu dagvaviwydeba,<br />

rom dasustebuli da dacarielebuli<br />

quTaisi ara marto am qalaqis<br />

mcxovrebTa problemaa.<br />

`Tuki "ocnebam" SeZlo da marTla gadaitana<br />

parlamenti quTaisidan, es iqneba imis mesiji,<br />

rom saqarTvelos dRevandel xelisuflebas ar<br />

ainteresebs regionuli ganviTareba,<br />

decentralizacia. igi kvlav rCeba Tbilisis<br />

monocentrizmis momxred, rac 90-iani wlebidan<br />

gansakuTrebiT ikveTeba da amis gamo,<br />

praqtikulad, mxolod da mxolod, dedaqalaqi<br />

ganviTarda. sazogadoeba ukve Sedarebas<br />

akeTebs da Tavkombalas uwodebs mas.<br />

praqtkulad, scenaris ase ganviTareba niSnavs<br />

imas, rom imereTsa da mTlianad dasavleT<br />

saqarTvelos ganviTarebis aranairi<br />

perspeqtiva ar eqneba da quTaisSi daiwyeba<br />

Seuqcevadi kvdomis procesi, rac xelisuflebas<br />

namdvilad ar unda awyobdes. monocentrizmis<br />

pirobebSi Tbilisic ver viTardeba.<br />

dedaqalaqSi meti Casuli adamiani Cndeba,<br />

metadaa gajerebuli adamianiuri resursiT,<br />

rac, bunebrivia, adgilobrivi mosaxleobisTvis<br />

iq cxovrebas komfortuls namdvilad ar xdis~<br />

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gacvliTi kursis dadgenis meTodologiis simaxinje. es ori ZiriTadi<br />

faqtoria, romelic ganapirobebs laris kursis mkveTr ryevas~<br />

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_ Sesabamisi uwyeba erTia _<br />

devnilTa saministro da iq sul<br />

erTi da igive xalxi ireva. mivmarTe<br />

da Cavabare Cemi devnilis<br />

bileTi. moviTxove, rom momixsnan<br />

devnilis statusi, imitom rom<br />

araferSi margia. me mivmarTav<br />

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magram am faqts reagirebis<br />

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saqmes Sevewirebi, magram TiToeul<br />

adamianze dosies gavakeTeb,<br />

yvela im aferistze, vinc ki olimpiur<br />

qalaqSi Sesaxldeba, movagroveb<br />

yvela informacias. me xom<br />

vicnob am xalxs? Cems mTavrobas<br />

ki ar vadanaSauleb. Cemi xalxis<br />

siRoresac ar daadga saSveli,<br />

rom es mTavroba SecdomaSi SehyavT.<br />

ver gaZRa maTi muceli am<br />

23 wlis ganmavlobaSi.<br />

„qronika+” TemasTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT devnilTa da gansaxleb-<br />

is saministros sazogadoebasTan<br />

urTierTobis departamentis<br />

ufross, dali gogolaZes<br />

daukavSirda:<br />

_ nebismier devnils iuridiulad<br />

ufleba aqvs, rom uari Tqvas<br />

devnilobaze. ganmcxadebels<br />

SeuZlia miuTiTos, an ar miuTi-<br />

Tos mizezi, anu safuZveli.<br />

nata xafTani:<br />

_ aravis vusurveb imas, rac<br />

jer afxazeTSi da samaCabloSi<br />

omis dros, Semdeg ki 23 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

devnilobaSi gamoviareT.<br />

Tqven verasdros mixvdebiT<br />

imas, Tu ra aris omi, omSi naTesavebis<br />

sikvdili, devniloba, Tu<br />

ratom ver akiTxaven dedebi daRupuli<br />

Svilebis saflavebs! Tqven<br />

ra ggoniaT, devnilebs ar mobezrdaT<br />

23-wliani devniloba da<br />

Tqvennairi viTom patrioti „kritikosebi”?!<br />

gawamebul devnilebs<br />

RmerTma meti misces da male mSvidobianad<br />

dabrunebuliyvnen<br />

TavianT saxlebSi. me, nato xaf-<br />

Tani, davibade da gavizarde afxazeTSi.<br />

1992 wlis pirvel oqtombers<br />

Cems ojaxTan erTad davtove<br />

gagra 4 mcirewlovan SvilTan<br />

34<br />

da meuRlesTan erTad. mas mere<br />

23 weliwadi gavida. mTeli am xnis<br />

ganmavlobaSi saTuTad mitarebia<br />

is tkivili da monatreba, rac Tan<br />

axlavs samSoblos dakargvas. yovelTvis<br />

vgrZnobdi im moqalaqeobriv<br />

valdebulebas, rac Cemi afxazeTis<br />

winaSe mqonda. SesaZleblobebis<br />

farglebSi amas gamovxatavdi<br />

Cemi satelevizio gadacemebiT,<br />

mokrZalebuli poeziiT da<br />

publicisturi werilebiT. Tumca<br />

yovelTvis vgrZnobdi, rom Cemnairi<br />

adamianebi aravis sWirdeboda.<br />

devnilTa saministros mier<br />

gamoqveynebulma siebma kidev er-<br />

Txel damarwmuna, rom arafers<br />

azri ar aqvs. imis Rirsadac ki<br />

aravin CamTvala, rom Cemi gancxadeba<br />

ganexilaT. ukve mivmarTe<br />

devnilTa ministrs, baton subars<br />

Tad quCaSi davrCi. maSin, faqtobrivad,<br />

ar arsebobda saxelmwifo<br />

da CemnairebisTvis erTaderTi<br />

Sansi farTis dakavebisa sadme Se-<br />

Wra iyo. mTel Tbiliss kargad axsovs<br />

devnilTa SeWris faqtebi. me<br />

es ar gamikeTebia. naTesavis bina-<br />

Si gadavedi, magram mere is bina<br />

gasxvisda da dRemde qiriT var.<br />

aravin Semiwuxebia. Cemi meuRle<br />

ruseTSi wavida da iqidan gvawvdida<br />

saarsebo lukma-purs. Cemi<br />

idea fiqsi arasodes yofila, rom<br />

maincdamainc TbilisSi moecaT<br />

bina. amoiRon Cemi gancxadebebi<br />

da naxon. 2013 wels, xelisuflebis<br />

Secvlis Semdeg, devnilTa<br />

saministrom SeimuSava brZaneba<br />

320, igive „maregulirebeli aqti<br />

devnilTa sacxovreblebiT uzrunvelyofis<br />

Sesaxeb”, romlis mi-<br />

_ Tu yofila amis preceden-<br />

ti?<br />

_ yofila, magram erTeulebi.<br />

isic maSin, rodesac sxva SeRavaTebze,<br />

an piradi interesebidan<br />

gamomdinare akeTebdnen.<br />

_ nato xafTani acxadebs, rom<br />

4 Svilis dedas biniT ar akmayofileben<br />

da imaT akmayofile-<br />

ben, romelTac ar ekuTvniT...<br />

_ am qalbatonis pretenziebi<br />

Tavidan bolomde usafuZvloa. es<br />

aris tyuili, imitom rom aseTi<br />

Sepireba ar arsebobs. erT rameze<br />

SevTanxmdeT: es aris klasikuri<br />

ciliswameba. binebi komisiurad<br />

nawildeba. am komisiaSi 35 kaci<br />

Sedis: „axalgazrda iuristTa<br />

asociacia”, gaero, saxalxo damcveli,<br />

evrokavSiri da a. S.<br />

gagrZeleba 37-e gv.<br />

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sami `arCevnebis dRe~ erT TveSi _<br />

vis airCevs samegrelo meore turSi?<br />

zugdidSi 8 oqtombers naCve-<br />

laSa berulava<br />

nebma Sedegma, sadac, molodinis<br />

577 20 86 13<br />

sawinaaRmdegod, sandra rulovs-<br />

ma pirvel turSi ver gaimarjva,<br />

enm-s momxreebs guli gautexa, „qarTuli ocneba” ki gaaerTiana.<br />

swored „ocnebis” sasargeblod metyvelebs is faqti, rom cno-<br />

badobis kuTxiT, praqtikulad, ucnobma kandidatma (imis mi-<br />

uxedavad, rom gamgebelic iyo) ediSer Toloraiam sandraze,<br />

sul raRac, 250-ode xmiT naklebi miiRo da meore turSi mas<br />

unda Seerkinos.<br />

mogexsenebaT, rom regionebSi,<br />

gansakuTrebiT ki im regionebSi,<br />

sadac enm aSkara upiratesobiT<br />

igebda, „ocnebas” mTeli yuradReba<br />

mainc saarCevno ubnebze hqonda<br />

gadatanili, sadac, aseve, sxvadasxva<br />

xerxis gamoyenebiT, xan abaTilebda<br />

ubnebze bevr biuletens da<br />

ase aklebda xmebs mowinaaRmdeges,<br />

an kidev pirdapir arbevda, sadac<br />

sxvanairad ar gamodioda.<br />

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom „ocnebam”<br />

am arCevnebze imaze ufro imuSava,<br />

rom Tavad ki ar aeRo bevri xma,<br />

yvela resursi gamoeyenebina imisTvis,<br />

rom mowinaaRmdeges bevri<br />

xma ar mieRo. es, rasakvirvelia,<br />

sulac ar akninebs „ocnebis” Stabis<br />

im flangis damsaxurebas,<br />

romelsac amomrCevlis mobilizeba<br />

exeboda:<br />

maT Cinebulad gaarTves Tavi<br />

amocanas da xalxi gamoiyvanes,<br />

xolo amomrCevlis im nawilis xmebi,<br />

romlebic marTla im muxtiT<br />

iyvnen gasuli gareT, raTa qveyanaSi<br />

arsebuli realoba SeecvalaT,<br />

„ocnebisTvis” sasargeblod daTvales<br />

_ es ukve „ocnebis” meore fr-<br />

Tam Seasrula, romelic am arCevnebze<br />

ubnebsa da xmebis daTvlaze<br />

iyo pasuxismgebeli.<br />

magaliTad, zugdidSi, roca sa-<br />

Ramosken sandra rulovsis xmebma<br />

aSkarad imata da konkurentTan<br />

sxvaoba 300 xmas Camoscda, „qarTuli<br />

ocneba” dafacurda. es 300 xma<br />

daifareboda, Tuki sandra rulovsi<br />

jixaSkarsa da ganmuxurSi didi<br />

upiratesobiT moigebda. amave<br />

dros, ar iyo gamoricxuli, rulovsi<br />

50%-sac ki gadacdeniliyo,<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” saTavo ofisis,<br />

piradad, biZina ivaniSvilis davaleba<br />

ki is iyo, rom zugdidSi aramc<br />

da aramc ar unda waegoT, minimum,<br />

meore turamde mainc unda misuliyo<br />

saqme.<br />

sabolood, asec moxda: jixaSkarSi<br />

ori ubani daarbies, xolo<br />

ganmuxuris ubanze xmebis daTvla<br />

CaSales. metic, arCevnebis Semdeg,<br />

xelaxali xmis micemis procesis<br />

zRurblze, sasamarTlom ar Secvala<br />

saolqo komisiis gadawyvetileba<br />

ganmuxurSi ubanze xmis Sedegebis<br />

gabaTilebis Sesaxeb.<br />

meore turis win sandra rulovsisa<br />

da ediSer Toloraias Sansebi<br />

Tanabaria, Tumca didad gasakviri<br />

namdvilad ar iqneba, Tu „ocnebis”<br />

kandidati gaimarjvebs. Tu mar-<br />

Tlac ase moxdeba da ubnebze, sadac<br />

sandra rulovsis mxardaWera<br />

8 oqtombers maRali iyo, xolo meore<br />

turis Semdeg dabali aRmoCndeba,<br />

unda vivaraudoT, rom enm-s<br />

amomrCevels guli gautyda da ar-<br />

Cevnebis meore turze wasvlis Sansi<br />

ver dainaxa.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, politsabWos<br />

cnobili sxdomis Semdeg, roca sandra<br />

rulovss parlamentSi SesvlasTan<br />

da meore turSi monawileobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT SekiTxva<br />

dausves, man Tavi aarida pasuxs da<br />

ganacxada, _ CemTan jer meore<br />

turebiao. xolo SekiTxvaze, _ moswons<br />

Tu ara gadawyvetileba, mxolod<br />

is axsena, _ me politsabWos<br />

wevri ar var, ar vmonawileobdi<br />

kenWisyraSi da verafers getyviTo.<br />

mogvianebiT, sandra rulovss<br />

isic hkiTxes, _ Tu iRebT rCevebs<br />

Tqveni meuRlisgano? razec yofilma<br />

pirvelma ledim pirdapir<br />

uTxra, _ me yvelasgan viReb gonivrul<br />

rCevebs da, rasakvirvelia,<br />

Cemi meuRlec maT Sorisaao.<br />

sandra rom samegreloSi miSas-<br />

Tan iyo asocirebuli, amas bevri<br />

mkiTxaoba arc sWirdeba. savaraudod,<br />

swored amiT aixsneboda is<br />

winaswari molodini, rac zugdidsa<br />

da zugdidis raionis soflebSi<br />

namdvilad SeimCneoda: TviT „ocnebis”<br />

warmomadgenelTa colebic<br />

ki ar tovebdnen uyuradRebod sandra<br />

rulovsis Sexvedrebs da iq<br />

ara asarevad, aramed mosasmenad midiodnen,<br />

„qocobas” ki gulmodgined<br />

malavdnen. Tumca sofels,<br />

aba, ra damalvia, eg rom damalvoda<br />

da erTi-orjer es qalebi gamoiWires<br />

kidec, ris Semdegac uazro<br />

Tavis marTlebaze gadavidnen,<br />

_ aq imisTvis movediT, sandra tyuilebSi<br />

gamogveWira da uazro braldebebi<br />

ar SegverCinao...<br />

maS, ase! mTavari sajildao qva<br />

isev samegreloa: Tu samegreloSi<br />

sandra rulovsi meore turSi<br />

waagebs, es axal eWvebs warmoqmnis<br />

maTTvis, vinc SeTqmulebis Teoriebisgan<br />

Sors ar dgas. es xalxi<br />

ityvis, rom sandra mogebuli iyo,<br />

magram waagebines, raTa sxva ma-<br />

Joritarebis wagebebi, magaliTad,<br />

elene xoStarias mosalodneli<br />

damarcxeba TbilisSi, gaemarTlebinaT.<br />

Tuki sandra rulovsi gaimarjvebs,<br />

es isev SeTqmulebis Teoriis<br />

momxreebis wisqvilze daasxams<br />

wyals, radgan imis niSani iqneba,<br />

rom maqsimaluri mobilizebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba gamarjveba<br />

meore turSic ki im mocemuloba-<br />

Si, roca pirveli turis SedegebiT<br />

250-ze meti xmiT CamorCebi.<br />

meore turamde ki samegrelos<br />

or ubanze _ jixaSkaris darbeul<br />

ubnebze _ xelaxali kenWisyraa. 22<br />

oqtombers daitesteba, ra suraTi<br />

iqneba meore turze, miva Tu ara<br />

amomrCeveli arCevnebis meore turSi<br />

xmis misacemad da Tu miva, iRebs<br />

Tu ara yurad opoziciuri partiebis<br />

liderebisa Tu arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebis mowodebas<br />

imis Sesaxeb, rom meore turze xma<br />

miscen arasaxelisuflebo partias...<br />

kacma rom Tqvas, jixaSkarelebisTvis<br />

xelaxali kenWisyra principis<br />

sakiTxicaa: swored jixaSkarelebi<br />

TavianT sofelSi aRudgnen<br />

win orjer sandras Sexvedris CaSlas<br />

da maTve ekuTvniT fraza: „xelisuflebas<br />

aq korcxeli ar gamouva”.<br />

ase rom, maT principulobas<br />

da imas, rom xelisuflebas jixaSkaris<br />

korcxelizacia ar gamouva,<br />

didi gamocda elis.<br />

aRsaniSnavi isicaa, rom jixaSkareli<br />

amomrCevlebis is nawili,<br />

romelic swored am or ubanzea<br />

registrirebuli, yvelaze aqtiuri<br />

amomrCeveli gamodis, romelsac,<br />

mizezTa da mizezTa gamo, erT Tveze<br />

nakleb SualedSi samjer mouwevs<br />

xmis micema.<br />

savaraudod, jixaSkaris ori<br />

ubani (ganmuxuris ubnis gareSe)<br />

ceskos winaswar monacemebs ver<br />

Secvlis, anu orive ubani rom Tundac<br />

sandra rulovsma moigos,<br />

TiTqmis asprocentiani gamarjveba<br />

da mxolod Teoriuli Sansia<br />

imisa, rom sandra rulovsi meore<br />

turis Cautareblad gamocxaddes<br />

gamarjvebulad.<br />

faqtia, „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />

samegreloSi mTeli desanti gadaisrola<br />

rogorc xelaxali kenWisyrisTvis,<br />

aseve meore turisTvis.<br />

zogadad, meore turi da xelaxali<br />

kenWisyra swored imiTaa gamor-<br />

Ceuli, rom partiul liderebs<br />

meti dro aqvT, meore turi yvelgan<br />

araa da amitomac, gamarjvebisTvis<br />

brZolaSi erTvebian.<br />

ase xdeba xelaxali, anu ganmeorebiTi<br />

kenWisyris drosac. imis<br />

mixedviT, Tu vis vixilavT 22 oqtombers<br />

zugdidis raionis sofel<br />

jixaSkarSi sandra rulovsis mxardasaWerad,<br />

xelT gveqneba daskvnac,<br />

ramdenad moaxerxa enm-m Sida krizisis<br />

daZleva da, zogadad, mtrisa<br />

da, moyvris TvalSic, erTianobis<br />

SenarCuneba.<br />

rasakvirvelia, jixaSkarSi dani-<br />

Snuli xelaxali kenWisyra sulac<br />

araa naklebad mniSvnelovani, vidre<br />

is Sualeduri arCevnebi, romelic<br />

korcxelSi Catarda da sadac<br />

enm-s mTeli elita gamoCnda. ase<br />

rom, arc axla iqneba cudi, Tu jixaSkarSi<br />

giga bokeria da nika melia<br />

gamoCndebian. yovel SemTxveva-<br />

Si, amomrCevlis TvalSi lamazad<br />

ar gamova, Tu zugdidSi mxolod<br />

varSalomiZe Cava da sandras gverdiT<br />

dadgeba.<br />

rac ufro meti lideri Cava, es,<br />

jer erTi, saakaSvilTan SesaZlo<br />

dapirispirebis molodins gafantavs,<br />

meorec, kidev erTxel gausvams<br />

xazs, rom partiaSi SesaZloa,<br />

azrTa sxvadasxvaoba iyos, magram,<br />

sabolood, yvelaferi mSvidobianad,<br />

konsensusiT gadawydes.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, arc zugdidSi<br />

manamde Casvla da amomrCevelTan<br />

erTi Sexvedris organizeba iqneboda<br />

zedmeti. ufro sworad, oris:<br />

erTi daxurulad, iqaur aqtivTan<br />

da meorec, sadme quCaSi, Tundac<br />

im SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu amomrCevel-<br />

Ta didi raodenobis Sekreba ver<br />

moxerxdeboda.<br />

amomrCevlebi ki jerac dganan<br />

dilemis winaSe, wavidnen Tu ara<br />

arCevnebis meore turze? samegreloSi<br />

rom gulgatexilebi blomad<br />

arian, yvela nabijze igrZnoba. albaT,<br />

Zalian Zneli iqneba im muxtis<br />

amoqaCva 22 oqtombramde, riTac<br />

gamoirCeoda enm-s winasaarCevno<br />

Sexvedrebi 8 oqtombramde.<br />

magram samegrelos araerTxel<br />

daumtkicebia, rom roca saWiroa,<br />

swor gadawyvetilebas iRebs. mar-<br />

Talia, Znelad, zogjer, TiTqos,<br />

dagvianebiTac, magram, sabolood,<br />

mainc swors. danarCeni ki ager, 22<br />

oqtombersa da 2 noembers gamoCndeba.<br />

es TariRebi kargad axsovs<br />

„ocnebasac” da, rasakvirvelia, am<br />

Zalasac esmis, rom es erT-erTi<br />

umTavresi jaxia, rogorc raodenobrivi,<br />

aseve fsiqologiuri TvalsazrisiTac.<br />

samegrelos gadatexa<br />

sandras damarcxebiT _ es,<br />

kacma rom Tqvas, „qarTul ocnebas”<br />

mTeli weli eyofa politikur sagzlad,<br />

Tu meti ara...<br />

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Telavis universitetis<br />

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wlebi) saganmanaTleblo tradiciebi<br />

aqvs.<br />

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60 wlisTavze, 1999 wels, mas saxelmwifo<br />

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mieniWa. universiteti avtonomiuri<br />

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da sadoqtoro programebze.<br />

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36<br />

qeTevan gigaSvili<br />

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SioSvili airCia.<br />

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da gamocemaTmcodneobis”<br />

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erTaderT abiturients universitetis<br />

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da acnobes, rom Caricxuli<br />

ar iyo. abiturientma dakonkreteba<br />

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es programebi?!<br />

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mixedviT: Tu universitets aqvs<br />

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am programis specialobebis<br />

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gamocemaTmcodneobis"<br />

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mqone abiturients<br />

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administraciidan daurekes da<br />

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iyo. ratom moatyues<br />

abiturienti? visi davalebiT<br />

ganxorcielda aRniSnuli zari?<br />

vis mier daiwera mavnebluri<br />

scenari da vis interesebSi<br />

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programis dablokva? ra<br />

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reqtoris pirovnuli vnebebis<br />

dakmayofilebas farTo<br />

asparezs uSlis? ra safrTxes<br />

uqmnis es dauokebeli vnebebi<br />

universitetis interesebs? ras<br />

emsaxureba reqtoris karis<br />

TamaSebi?~<br />

afasebs:<br />

_ 20 seqtembers, doqtoranturis<br />

misaRebi gamocdebis meore<br />

dRes, „teqstologiisa da gamocemaTmcodneobis”<br />

sadoqtoro programaze<br />

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mqone abiturients universitetis<br />

administraciidan daurekes<br />

da acnobes, rom Caricxuli<br />

ar iyo.<br />

ratom moatyues abiturienti?<br />

visi davalebiT ganxorcielda<br />

aRniSnuli zari? vis mier daiwera<br />

mavnebluri scenari da vis interesebSi<br />

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programis dablokva?<br />

ra TamaSis wesebs sTavazobs SioSvili<br />

administracias da vin<br />

apoxierebs niadags, romelic reqtoris<br />

pirovnuli vnebebis dakmayofilebas<br />

farTo asparezs uSlis?<br />

ra safrTxes uqmnis es dauokebeli<br />

vnebebi universitetis<br />

interesebs? ras emsaxureba reqtoris<br />

karis TamaSebi?<br />

_ rogor gadawyda im erTaderTi<br />

abiturientis bedi, romel-<br />

mac doqtoranturaSi Caabara?!<br />

_ am SemTxvevaSi abiturientis<br />

administraciis klanWebidan daxsna<br />

moxerxda. rom ara programis<br />

xelmZRvanelis codna kanonebisa<br />

Tu kanonqvemdebare aqtebisa da<br />

Tavad abiturientis momzadeba,<br />

is aucileblad gaiwireboda.<br />

vsvam kiTxvas: vin aris pasuxismgebeli<br />

imaze, rac universitet-<br />

Si moxda? _ universitetis xarisxis<br />

uzrunvelyofis samsaxurisa<br />

da humanitarul mecniereba-<br />

Ta fakultetis xarisxis uzrunvelyofis<br />

samsaxuris ufrosebi,<br />

romlebmac aRniSnulis Sesaxeb<br />

acnobes students, Tu reqtori,<br />

romelmac es brZaneba gasca?<br />

saqarTvelos kanoniT umaRlesi<br />

ganaTlebis Sesaxeb xom xarisxis<br />

uzrunvelyofis samsaxuri universitetis<br />

marTvis organos warmoadgens.<br />

Tu marTvis organos<br />

saqmianobas aseTi codnis adamianebi<br />

warmarTaven, xom warmogidgeniaT,<br />

ra mdgomareobaSi iqneba universitetSi<br />

dokumentacia? vin<br />

icis, ramdeni studentis ufle-<br />

bebia darRveuli maTi araprofesionalizmis<br />

gamo?<br />

_ anu ra moxda, davalebebi<br />

iyo, Tu araprofesionalizmis<br />

bralia?<br />

_ Tu aRniSnulma Tanamdebobis<br />

pirebma icodnen, rom ukanonobas<br />

sCadiodnen da mainc asrulebdnen<br />

ufrosis davalebas, calsaxad<br />

unda daisvas rogorc maTi, ise<br />

reqtoris pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi,<br />

romelmac es davaleba misca<br />

maT, xolo, Tu isini darwmunebulebi<br />

iyvnen, rom students Caricxva<br />

ar ekuTvnoda, am SemTxvevaSic<br />

unda daisvas maTi pasuxismgeblobis<br />

sakiTxi, radgan es<br />

Seuwynarebeli ucodinarobaa,<br />

romelic marTvis organos xelm-<br />

ZRvanel pirebs araviTar SemTxvevaSi<br />

ar epatiebaT.<br />

am saqcielze aucileblad<br />

unda agon pasuxi Sesabamisma pirebma,<br />

raTa msgavsi faqtebi aRarasdros<br />

ganmeordes da arc msgavsi<br />

scenarebis dawera gabedos vinmem<br />

im dawesebulebaSi, romelic<br />

Tavisi daniSnulebiT codnis ta-<br />

Zari unda iyos da ara reqtoris<br />

pirovnuli vnebebis dakmayofilebis<br />

asparezi.<br />

giorgi gociriZe _ univer-<br />

sitetis eqsreqtori, profesori:<br />

_ ai, ra xdeba Telavis universitetSi,<br />

_ rogorc giorgi iva-<br />

niaSvili-orbeliani ambobs: „viwro<br />

kompetenturobis diapazon-<br />

Si moqceuli adamianebi Tavs ver<br />

arTmeven farTo kompetenciis<br />

farglebSi miniWebul uflebamosilebasa<br />

da pasuxismgeblobas,<br />

rac gamoricxavs maT Tanamdebobebze<br />

yofnas. marTvis sadaveebi<br />

moqceulia provincieli avantiuristebisa<br />

da maT mier aRzevebuli<br />

laqia-karieristebis xelSi”.<br />

gasaocari ambebi xdeba Cvens<br />

codnis taZarSi! dawesebuleba<br />

sakuTari Tavis winaaRmdegaa amxedrebuli!<br />

ukve ori weli xdeba,<br />

rac misi saxelisa da prestiJis<br />

gadarCenas vcdilobT SiSveli xelebiT!<br />

ori instanciis sasamarTloSi<br />

mivaRwieT, rom maT baTil-<br />

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karis TamaSebi?!<br />

ad ecnoT ganaTlebis xarisxis<br />

erovnuli centris dadgenileba.<br />

am saqmis samarTlebriv mxareze<br />

kidev ufro SemaSfoTebelia adamianis<br />

gawirvis aseTi Semzaravi<br />

faqti! da viTomc araferi... TiTqmis<br />

aRaravis axsovs, yofil reqtors<br />

guSin diTirambebs rom um-<br />

Rerodnen da misTvis erTgulebis<br />

damtkicebaSi erTmaneTs ejibrebodnen,<br />

am ori wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

aseve TavgamodebiT ejibrebian<br />

erTmaneTs misTvis zurg-<br />

Si laxvris CacemaSi, radganac<br />

dRes aseTi sio qris! axla sxvas<br />

umRerian diTirambebs. ukve<br />

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isrebiT Secvlian. es aris iseTi<br />

amazrzeni faqtebi, romelzedac<br />

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dRevandelma dRem kidev erTxel<br />

naTlad aCvena, rom Telavis<br />

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profesionali da universitetis<br />

gulSematkivari xelmZRvaneloba<br />

administraciis TiTqmis yvela<br />

rgolSi (iSviaTi gamonaklisebis<br />

garda)! am postebze arsebuli<br />

kadri kritikas ver uZlebs!!! es<br />

ki vnebs ara mxolod universitets,<br />

aramed Telavs, qveyanas,<br />

TiToeul Cvengans!<br />

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mdgomareoba aseTia: Tu doqtoranturis<br />

misaRebi gamocda ar<br />

giorgi gociriZe<br />

Catarda da ar gveyoleba doqtoranturis<br />

studentebi, Telavis<br />

saxelmwifo universiteti daxurvis<br />

reJimSi gadava. iyo dro, universitets<br />

3000 studenti hyavda,<br />

axla ki maTi ricxvi umniSvneloa<br />

da ramdenime aseuls iTvlis.<br />

universitetSi dRes TanamSormeli<br />

3-jer metad aRemateba studentTa<br />

raodenobas. Tu universitetSi<br />

doqtoranturaSi abiturientebi<br />

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fasiani gaxdeba da maT saxelmwifo<br />

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`gasaocari ambebi xdeba Cvens codnis taZarSi!<br />

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xarisxis erovnuli centris dadgenileba. am<br />

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aRaravis axsovs, yofil reqtors guSin<br />

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erTgulebis damtkicebaSi erTmaneTs<br />

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TavgamodebiT ejibrebian erTmaneTs misTvis<br />

zurgSi laxvris CacemaSi, radganac dRes aseTi<br />

sio qris! axla sxvas umRerian diTirambebs.<br />

ukve mjera, rom, rogorc ki xelsayreli<br />

SemTxveva miecemaT, simReras isrebiT Secvlian.<br />

es aris iseTi amazrzeni faqtebi, romelzedac<br />

sazogadoebis dafiqreba Rirs~<br />

34-e gverdidan<br />

- Tuki vinmes devnilebTan Sexeba aqvs,<br />

absoluturad yvela uwyebis warmomadgeneli<br />

Sedis da nebismier devnils Seu-<br />

Zlia daeswros komisiis muSaobas. komisiis<br />

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Tu mas dokumentacia aqvs, pirdapir<br />

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binas miiRebs nebismieri devnili,<br />

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rac oficialurad gawerilia.<br />

_ nata xafTanis gancxadebiT, erTi<br />

ojaxi iRebs xuT binas...<br />

_ adamiani, rodesac ambobs amden absurds,<br />

rom me vabarebdi devnilis mowmobas<br />

da ar Caibareso, msgavsi ar momxdara,<br />

imitom rom am dros veravin gauwevs<br />

winaaRmdegobas. es misi nebaa da konstituciuri<br />

ufleba.<br />

„qronika+” arasamTavroboebis azri-<br />

Tac dainteresda.<br />

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Ta uflebebis dacvis asociaciis Tavmj-<br />

domare:<br />

_ xsenebuli sakiTxi detalur Seswavlas<br />

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ZiriTadi pretenziebi aris<br />

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devnilTa saministro xelmZRvanelobs<br />

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vapirebT, werilobiT mivmarToT<br />

xsenebul uwyebas da gamoviTxovoT is<br />

kriteriumebi da parametrebi, romliTac<br />

isini xelmZRvaneloben. gasagebia, rom iq<br />

saxeldeba euTo, saxalxo damcveli, saia<br />

da a. S., magram rodesac saqme exeba korufciul<br />

sqemebs, rigiT TaRliTobas,<br />

amis gakontroleba xom SeuZlebelia.<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT rigiT TaRliToba-<br />

Si?<br />

_ me mxolod faqtebiT da dokumentebiT<br />

SemiZlia laparaki. rodesac konkretulad<br />

xelT meqneba es faqtebi, pirveli<br />

Tqven mogawvdiT.<br />

beso werediani _ iZulebiT gadaadgilebul<br />

pirTa-devnilTa Temis ganvi-<br />

Tarebis centris direqtori:<br />

_ aucilebelia am segmentSi monitoringis<br />

Catareba. Tqven SegiZliaT gamoiTxovoT<br />

informacia devnilTa saministrodan,<br />

rogorc kriteriumebis Sesaxeb,<br />

`olimpiur qalaqSi<br />

ltolvilTa saministro<br />

devnilebs ki ara,<br />

aferistebs asaxlebs~<br />

N37(<strong>168</strong>) 18.10-24.10.2016 w.<br />

aseve imaze, Tu vis gadaeca es binebi, gamoiTxovoT<br />

statistika da amis Semdeg gaakeToT<br />

Sedareba. mxolod ase iqneba Sesa-<br />

Zlebeli daskvnebis gakeTeba.<br />

_ Tqvens centrs ar gaukeTebia?<br />

_ ara. mTlianad politikur proceseb-<br />

Si varT CarTuli, magram rogorc ki mor-<br />

Ceba, am Temas Zirfesvianad waovwevT.<br />

aucilebelia, yvela devnili dakmayofldes.<br />

es aris is kategoria, romlebzec<br />

zrunva saxelmwifosTvis prioritetuli<br />

unda iyos.<br />

`qronika+” agrZelebs Temaze muSaobas.<br />

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gardamavals isev imerlebi lideroben<br />

daaxloebiT oci wlis winaT<br />

Rrma krizisSi myofma `dinamom~<br />

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– sakuTar bazaze cxvari miiyvana<br />

da dakla. ramdenime dRis<br />

winaT ki imave teritoriaze cxvari<br />

isev gamoCnda _ `dinamos~ pressamsaxuris<br />

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Seaseirnes moedanze da mere<br />

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fereiram da giorgi papunaSvilma<br />

erTmaneTze gaiwies da arbitrma<br />

orives wiTeli baraTi aufriala.<br />

yovelive amis Semdeg `gurias~<br />

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Zlebs giorgi Wedia gauZeves, meore<br />

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golic miiRes.<br />

es Sexvedra rom waego, `dinamo~<br />

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saTuod gauxdeboda, axla ki Cempionis<br />

titulis SenarCunebis perspeqtivac<br />

ki gauCnda.<br />

es imis gamoisobiT moxda, rom<br />

Zvirfasi qulebi dakarga saCxeris<br />

`Cixuram~. zemoimerlebma Sin ver<br />

ajobes autsaider `Suquras~, metic,<br />

meore taimSi bevri iwvales angariSis<br />

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fres dasjerdnen.<br />

amave jgufSi umniSvnelovanesi<br />

gamarjveba moipova `torpedom~.<br />

quTaislebma `lokomotivis~ ganadgurebiT<br />

gasavardn zonas Tavi daaRwies,<br />

`dinamo Tbiliss~ ki `lokomotivis~<br />

gadaswrebis saSualeba<br />

misces.<br />

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liderobs, romelmac `sions~<br />

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`kolxeTma~ ki kvlavac sasiamovnod<br />

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gamarjvebiT jgufSi mesamidan<br />

meore adgilze gadainacvla. gela<br />

sanaias mier gawvrTnil `kolxeTs~<br />

arc varskvlavuri Semadgenloba<br />

hyavs da arc gansakuTrebuli biujeti,<br />

magram mwvrTnelis damsaxurebiT<br />

umaRlesi miznebisTvis<br />

brZolas axerxebs.<br />

`sionma~ `samtrediasTan~ marcxiT<br />

bolo adgilze gadainacvla,<br />

radgan Zvirfasi sami qulis mopoveba<br />

SeZlo misma konkurentma<br />

`zugdidma~. masTan gancdili marcxiT<br />

`dilas~ saturniro mdgomareoba<br />

mkveTrad gauaresda.<br />

19 oqtombers Tasis meoTxedfinaluri<br />

matCebia:<br />

merani-kolxeTi<br />

Cixura-samtredia<br />

sulori-torpedo<br />

noembris testebSi<br />

msajebi dagviniSnes<br />

oci wlis Semdeg<br />

`dinamos~ bazaze<br />

cxvarma ibalaxa<br />

dinamo Tb.-lokomotivi<br />

naxevarfinalistebi erTi mat-<br />

CiT gamovlindebian.<br />

fexburTi. saqarTvelos<br />

Cempionati. umaRlesi liga.<br />

IX turi<br />

wiTeli jgufi<br />

sioni-samtredia 0:3<br />

golebi: 0:1 raJamaSvili (35), 0:2<br />

zivzivaZe (69), 0:3 arabuli (80)<br />

dinamo Tb.-kolxeTi 0:1<br />

goli: 0:1 korobka (53)<br />

zugdidi-dila 1:0<br />

goli: 1:0 TuTberiZe (39)<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1.<br />

samtredia – 18 qula, 2. kolxeTi<br />

– 15, 3. dinamo Tb. – 13, 4. sabur-<br />

Talo – 9, 5. dila – 9, 6. zugdidi<br />

– 6, 7. sioni – 5.<br />

TeTri jgufi<br />

Cixura-Suqura 1:1<br />

golebi: 0:1 SalamberiZe (38), 1:1<br />

dobrovolski (68)<br />

torpedo-lokomotivi 3:0<br />

golebi: 1:0 mamasaxlisi (15. pen.),<br />

2:0 mamasaxlisi (34. pen.), 3:0 geTiaSvili<br />

(62. sak. karSi)<br />

guria-dinamo Tb. 0:2<br />

golebi: 0:1 dvaliSvili (49), 0:2<br />

z. WeliZe (72)<br />

gaZeveba: rene fereira (45. dinamo),<br />

papunaSvili (45. dinamo), g.<br />

Wedia (45. guria)<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. Cixura<br />

– 17, 2. dinamo Tb. – 13, 3.<br />

lokomotivi – 11, 4. torpedo –<br />

9, 5. guria – 8, 6. cxinvali – 7, 7.<br />

Suqura – 7.<br />

bombardirebi: j. dvali (cxinvali)<br />

– 7, s. lobJaniZe (Cixura),<br />

zivzivaZe (samtredia) – 6, T. Sonia<br />

(dinamo Tb.) – 5.<br />

sakalaTburTo<br />

superTasi `dinamosia~<br />

Tveze naklebi dro rCeba noembris umniSvnelovanes testmatCebamde, romlebsac<br />

Cveni erovnuli saragbo nakrebi soliduri metoqeebis winaaRmdeg Caatarebs. Segax-<br />

saqarTvelos sakalaTburTo superTasis mflobeli „dinamo Tbilisi~ gaxda. irakli<br />

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xoStarias mier gawvrTnilma dinamoelebma kote tuRuSis „quTaiss~ 83:71 sZlies da<br />

iReben, 26-Si ki Sotlandias estumrebian.<br />

sezonis pirvel tituls daeuflnen.<br />

12 noembers borjRalosnebisa da iaponeli ‘sakurebis~ matCs argentineli referi<br />

oTar qorqias saxelobis superTasi aqamde sezonis bolos TamaSdeboda, amieridan<br />

federiko anselmi imsajebs. aRsaniSnavia, rom igi ufro cnobilia 7-kacas wreebSi,<br />

ki dasawyisSi gaimarTeba. gasuli, 2015-16 wlebis sezonis Cempioni „quTaisia~, Tasis<br />

xolo 2012 wlidan aqtiurad msajobs 15-kacas. anselmis aqamde saqarTvelosTvis ar<br />

mflobeli ki _ „dinamo~.<br />

umsajia. kideebze mas frangi paskal gaiuzeri da uelseli den jounzi daexmarebian.<br />

dinamoelebma „quTaisi~ ramdenime dRis winaTac daamarcxes, roca dudu dadianis<br />

erTi kviris Semdeg saqarTvelo-samoas matCs frangi aleqsandr ruisi gauZRveba.<br />

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Tumca didi Sesvenebis win „dinamom~ xuTi qulis sxvaobiT, 46:41 dawinaureba SeZlo.<br />

folis saqarTvelosTvis aqamde ar emsaja, xolo doilma bolos wlevandeli okeane-<br />

moedanze dabrunebuli dedaqalaqelebi kidev ufro damajereblad aTamaSdnen. mesame<br />

Tis turnes damagvirgvinebel matCSi, fijisTan gvixelmZRvanela.<br />

periodi ‘dinamom~ 22:13 moigo da, mTlianobaSi, 14 quliT dawinaurda. bolo periodSi<br />

noembris wlevandeli seriis dasasruls 2011 wlis msoflio Tasis Semdeg pirvequTaislebma<br />

viTareba veRar Secvales da „dinamom~ mimdinare sezonSi ukve meore jillad<br />

veTamaSebiT Sotlandias. matCi 26 noembers qilmarnoqSi Sedgeba, romelsac in-<br />

do moigo.<br />

gliseli meTiu qarli gasjis. qarlim aqamde mxolod erTxel, wlevandel ragbi evrogamarjvebulebs<br />

20 quliT nikola maraviCma ulidera. quTaislebs ar eyoT erovnupis<br />

Cempionatze ruseTis winaaRmdeg soWSi gvimsaja. kideebze mas frangi matio rein-<br />

li nakrebis ZiriTadi gamTamaSeblis, giorgi cincaZis 28 qula da 11 pasi.<br />

ali da uelseli den jounzi (iaponiasTan Tanamsaji) daexmarebian.<br />

gamarjvebuli gundis mTavari mwvrTneli irakli xoStaria sapatio sigeliT kalaTburTis<br />

erovnuli federaciis prezidentma mixeil gabriCiZem daajildova. manve gada-<br />

gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />

sca dinamoelTa kapitan ilia londariZes oTar qorqias saxelobis superTasi.<br />

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sakvalifikacio turniris meore da mesame turis matCebi gaimarTa. grandebis<br />

umetesobam dagegmili gamarjvebebi damajereblad moipova, maTma nawilma<br />

qulebi dakarga, vixileT supernakrebebis saintereso urTierTSexve-<br />

drebic. sensaciebi da aRmoCenebi arc mimdinare SesarCev cikls aklia. Sors<br />

rom ar wavideT, Cveni mezobeli azerbaijani win daumarcxeblad miiwevs... am<br />

mimoxilvaSi aRar SevexebiT D jgufs, sadac saqarTvelos nakrebi TamaSobs<br />

– wina kviraSi aq momxdari peripetiebi detalurad ganvixileT.<br />

inglisi-malta 2:0<br />

slovenia-slovakeTi 1:0<br />

Sotlandia-litva 1:1<br />

slovakeTi-Sotlandia 3:0<br />

litva-malta 2:0<br />

slovenia-inglisi 0:0<br />

inglisis nakrebis Tavkacis postze<br />

sem elerdaiss mxolod erTi<br />

matCis Catareba dascalda, skandaluri<br />

gancxadebebis Semdeg ki<br />

sanukvari posti umal daatovebines<br />

da mis adgilze gareT sauTgeiti<br />

daniSnes. pirveli danakargi<br />

ingliselebma swored misi xelmZRvanelobiT<br />

ganicades, magram iqidan<br />

gamomdinare, rom ‘sam loms~<br />

arafriT gamorCeuli oponentebi<br />

hyavT, favoritebad swored isini<br />

rCebian.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. inglisi<br />

– 7, 2. litva – 5, 3. slov-<br />

azerbaijani<br />

da Cernogoria<br />

- axali<br />

evropuli<br />

A jgufi<br />

luqsemburgi-SvedeTi 0:1<br />

holandia-belarusi 4:1<br />

safrangeTi-bulgareTi 4:1<br />

belarusi-luqsemburgi 1:1<br />

SvedeTi-bulgareTi 3:0<br />

holandia-safrangeTi 0:1<br />

erT-erT yvelaze Zlier jguf-<br />

Si TiToeuli qula gansakuTrebiT<br />

fasobs, am realobaSi ki holandias<br />

uSualo konkurentTan Sin gancdili<br />

marcxi SesaZloa, Zvirad daujdes.<br />

frangebma pol pogbas mier<br />

pirvel taimSi gatanili goliT<br />

imarjves, amasobaSi ki Svedebma<br />

orive saoqtombro matCi moiges da<br />

am momentisTvis safrangeTTan er-<br />

Tad jgufis Tanaliderebi arian.<br />

ucnaurad warimarTa belarusis<br />

nakrebis bedi – pirvel turSi am<br />

gundma safrangeTTan iTamaSa<br />

fred, oqtomberSi ki sakuTar moedanze<br />

luqsemburgs ver mougo.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. safrangeTi<br />

– 7 qula, 2. SvedeTi –<br />

7, 3. holandia – 4, 4. bulgareTi<br />

– 3, 5. belarusi – 2, 6. luqsemburgi<br />

– 1.<br />

B jgufi<br />

latvia-farerebi 0:2<br />

portugalia-andora 6:0<br />

ungreTi-Sveicaria 2:3<br />

farerebi-portugalia 0:6<br />

andora-Sveicaria 1:2<br />

latvia-ungreTi 0:2<br />

evropis Cempionma portugaliam<br />

pirvel turSi SveicariasTan waago,<br />

magram oqtomberSi kriStianu<br />

ronaldum da kompaniam autsaiderebTan<br />

dagegmili sam-sami qula<br />

TamaS-TamaSiT miiTvales. andoraca<br />

da farerebic fernandu santu-<br />

Sis gundma 6:0 gaanadgura. ronaldum<br />

andoras oTxjer gautana,<br />

farerebs ki erTxel da amiT 66<br />

sanakrebo goli daugrovda. yvela<br />

drois evropel sanakrebo bombardirebSi<br />

man meeqvse adgilze gadainacvla<br />

da erTpirovnul liders,<br />

legendarul ungrel ferenc<br />

puSkaSs 18 goliT CamorCeba.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1.<br />

Sveicaria – 9, 2. portugalia –<br />

6, 3. ungreTi – 4, 4. farerebi –<br />

4, 5. latvia – 3, 6. andora – 0.<br />

C jgufi<br />

azerbaijani-norvegia 1:0<br />

Crd. irlandia-san marino 4:0<br />

germania-CexeTi 3:0<br />

CexeTi-azerbaijani 0:0<br />

germania-Crd. irlandia 2:0<br />

norvegia-san marino 4:1<br />

azerbaijanis nakrebi namdvilad<br />

aris mimdinare turniris erTerTi<br />

umTavresi aRmoCena. or sastarto<br />

SexvedraSi xorvati robert<br />

prosineCkis mier gawvrTnilma<br />

Cvenma mezoblebma eqvsi qula<br />

moipoves, rasac CexeTSi miRweuli<br />

fre miayoles da dRes jgufSi mxolod<br />

msoflios moqmed Cempion<br />

germanias CamorCebian. germania,<br />

molodinisamebr, mundialisken damajereblad<br />

miiwevs, azerbaijans<br />

ki konkurentebi mravlad hyavs.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. germania<br />

– 9, 2. azerbaijani – 7, 3.<br />

Crd. irlandia – 4, 4. norvegia –<br />

3, 5. CexeTi – 2, 6. san marino – 0.<br />

E jgufi<br />

somxeTi-rumineTi 0:5<br />

Cernogoria-yazaxeTi 5:0<br />

poloneTi-dania 3:2<br />

yazaxeTi-rumineTi 0:0<br />

dania-Cernogoria 0:1<br />

poloneTi-somxeTi 2:1<br />

kidev erTi moulodneloba CernogorielTa<br />

daumarcxebeli svlaa.<br />

marTalia, jgufi gansakuTrebuli<br />

siZlieriT ar gamoirCeva,<br />

magram gundisTvis, romelsac did<br />

turnirebze arasdros uTamaSia,<br />

Tanalideroba ukve didi saqmea. eqvseulis<br />

upirveles favoritad mainc<br />

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usiamovneba SeemTxva – erT-erTi<br />

wamyvani forvardi, arkadiuS miliki<br />

mZimed dauSavda da daaxloebiT<br />

naxevari wliT iuqmebs.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. Cernogoria<br />

– 7, 2. poloneTi – 7, 3.<br />

rumineTi – 5, 4. dania – 3, 5. yazaxeTi<br />

– 2, 6. somxeTi – 0.<br />

F jgufi<br />

gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />

enia – 5, 4. Sotlandia _ 4, 5. slovakeTi<br />

– 3, 6. malta – 0.<br />

G jgufi<br />

italia-espaneTi 1:1<br />

makedonia-israeli 1:2<br />

lixtenStaini-albaneTi 0:2<br />

israeli-lixtenStaini 2:1<br />

albaneTi-espaneTi 0:2<br />

makedonia-italia 2:3<br />

samagierod, aq gaimarTeba samkvdro-sasicocxlo<br />

brZola mundialze<br />

pirdapir gamsvleli pirveli<br />

poziciisTvis. italiasa da espaneTs<br />

realuri konkurenti aSkarad<br />

ar hyavT. maTi brZolis pirveli<br />

raundi turinSi mSvidobianad dasrulda<br />

– ugolo pirveli taimis<br />

Semdeg stumrebi vitolom daawinaura,<br />

mere ki daniele de rosim<br />

TerTmetmetrianiT gaaTanabra.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1. espaneTi<br />

– 7, 2. italia – 7, 3. albaneTi<br />

– 6, 4. israeli – 6, 5. makedonia<br />

– 0, 6. lixtenStaini – 0.<br />

H jgufi<br />

aRmoCenebi<br />

saberZneTi-kviprosi 2:0<br />

estoneTi-gibraltari 4:0<br />

belgia-bosnia 4:0<br />

estoneTi-saberZneTi 0:2<br />

gibraltari-belgia 0:6<br />

bosnia-kviprosi 2:0<br />

belgiis nakrebi Tavidanve Seracxes<br />

jgufis upirveles favoritad<br />

da espaneli roberto martinesis<br />

mier gawvrTnilma ‘wiTelma<br />

eSmakebma~ am sapatio statusis<br />

gamarTleba damajereblad daiwyes.<br />

aseve udanakargod miiwevs win<br />

saberZneTis nakrebi, romelic evropis<br />

Cempionatis finalur etapze<br />

ver moxvda. meore, sapleiofo adgilze<br />

gasvlis Sansi aqvs bosniasac,<br />

jgufis danarCeni binadrebis Sansebi<br />

ki faqtobrivad, nulis tolia.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1.<br />

belgia – 9, 2. saberZneTi – 9, 3.<br />

bosnia – 6, 4. estoneTi – 3, 5.<br />

kviprosi – 0, 6. gibraltari – 0.<br />

I jgufi<br />

kosovo-xorvatia 0:6<br />

islandia-fineTi 3:2<br />

TurqeTi-ukraina 2:2<br />

fineTi-xorvatia 0:1<br />

ukraina-kosovo 3:0<br />

islandia-TurqeTi 2:0<br />

xorvatiam saoqtombro Sexvedreb-<br />

Si dagegmili eqvsi qula moipova<br />

da mundialisken damajereblad<br />

miiwevs. evropis Cempionatze brwyinvale<br />

gamosvlis Semdeg ki islandielTa<br />

gamarjvebebs moulodnels<br />

veRaravin uwodebs. jgufi<br />

sakmaod konkurentunariania, am<br />

ori gundis davaSi Careva ukrainasa<br />

da TurqeTsac SeuZliaT.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba: 1.<br />

xorvatia – 7, 2. islandia – 7, 3.<br />

ukraina – 5, 4. TurqeTi – 2, 5.<br />

fineTi – 1, 6. kosovo – 1.<br />

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kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 4 GEO 17:30 10-11 l.<br />

darbazi 4 GEO 21:50 12-13 l.<br />

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londoni; 7. lebarde; 8. nerbi; 9.<br />

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17.<br />

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28.<br />

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30.qarTve-<br />

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reJis-<br />

ori<br />

34.siy-<br />

varulis<br />

RmerTi<br />

rom. miT.<br />

31.<br />

varcxni-<br />

loba<br />

35.<br />

joisis<br />

romani<br />

36.<br />

badiT<br />

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damWeri<br />

1.<br />

kolum-<br />

bieli<br />

mwerali<br />

2.xelov-<br />

3.<br />

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wyalsa-<br />

soprano<br />

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16.<br />

frangi<br />

fermw-<br />

eri<br />

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23.<br />

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adamiani<br />

25.erTxm.<br />

vokal.<br />

nawar-<br />

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32.<br />

33. JorJ<br />

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pers-<br />

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26.Seiar-<br />

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9.infor-<br />

maciis<br />

gavr-<br />

celeba<br />

12.dak-<br />

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gada-<br />

saxadi<br />

15.amerik.<br />

gamom-<br />

gone-<br />

beli<br />

22.<br />

munici-<br />

paliteti<br />

raWaSi<br />

27.<br />

mnaTobi<br />

4.far-<br />

Tobis<br />

sazomi<br />

erT.<br />

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inferno<br />

amirani<br />

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darbazi 1 GEO 19:15 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 2 ENG 19:30 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 1 22:00 13-14 l.<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

IMAX 12:00 19 l.<br />

darbazi 3 GEO 13:45 8-9 l.<br />

darbazi 6 14:15 8-9 l.<br />

IMAX 14:40 19 l.<br />

darbazi 3 GEO 16:30 9-10 l.<br />

IMAX 17:20 19 l.<br />

darbazi 3 GEO 19:15 12-13 l.<br />

IMAX 20:00 19 l.<br />

darbazi 3 22:00 12-13 l.<br />

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kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 3 GEO 16:15 9-10 l.<br />

darbazi 2 ENG 19:00 12-13 l.<br />

darbazi 1 GEO 19:10 12-13 l.<br />

darbazi 1 21:55 12-13 l.<br />

rusTaveli<br />

darbazi 5 GEO 14:45 9-10 l.<br />

darbazi 1 GEO 19:45 13-14 l.<br />

darbazi 1 22:35 13-14 l.<br />

kreiseri indianapolisi<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

darbazi 5 12:30 7-8 l.<br />

darbazi 4 19:00 12-13 l.<br />

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kavea Tbilisi moli<br />

darbazi 3 13:30 8-9 l.<br />

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rusTaveli<br />

darbazi 5 17:30 11-12 l.<br />

darbazi 2 19:30 13-14 l.<br />

snoudeni<br />

kavea isT foinTi<br />

darbazi 6 11:30 7-8 l.<br />

amindi<br />

samSabaTi<br />

oTxSabaTi<br />

xuTSabaTi<br />

paraskevi<br />

SabaTi<br />

kvira<br />

orSabaTi<br />

Tbilisi<br />

9-12 0<br />

11-13 0<br />

13-16 0<br />

14-17 0<br />

13-16 0<br />

15-19 0<br />

14-16 0<br />

quTaisi<br />

15-17 0<br />

18-22 0<br />

19-21 0<br />

20-22 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

20-22 0<br />

19-23 0<br />

baTumi<br />

15-19 0<br />

16-18 0<br />

17-19 0<br />

18-20 0<br />

19-22 0<br />

20-23 0<br />

19-22 0<br />

zugdidi<br />

16-18 0<br />

17-20 0<br />

19-22 0<br />

20-23 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

20-22 0<br />

19-21 0<br />

gori<br />

9-12 0<br />

11-13 0<br />

12-14 0<br />

14-18 0<br />

13-16 0<br />

14-17 0<br />

15-16 0<br />

Telavi<br />

7-10 0<br />

10-12 0<br />

11-13 0<br />

12-15 0<br />

13-15 0<br />

14-18 0<br />

15-18 0<br />

foTi<br />

15-18 0<br />

17-20 0<br />

18-20 0<br />

21-23 0<br />

22-25 0<br />

20-23 0<br />

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