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ROYAL COMMISSION<br />
ON<br />
AGRICULTURE IN INDIA<br />
Volume XI<br />
EVIDENCE<br />
TAKEN IN<br />
SIND<br />
CALCUTTA: GOVERNMENT OF INDIA<br />
CENTRAl, PUBLICATION RRANCH<br />
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TERMS OF REFERENCE<br />
Generally,<br />
Tb exam<strong>in</strong>e and report <strong>on</strong> the present c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>of</strong> agriculture and<br />
rural ec<strong>on</strong>omy <strong>in</strong> British <strong>India</strong>. and to make recommendati<strong>on</strong>s for the<br />
improvement <strong>of</strong> agrioult.ure and the promoti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> the welfare and<br />
prosperitJ <strong>of</strong> the rura.l popula.ti<strong>on</strong> ;<br />
In pa.rticular to <strong>in</strong>vestigate-<br />
(a) the measures now be<strong>in</strong>g taken for the promoti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> agricultural<br />
and veter<strong>in</strong>ary research, experiment, dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong> and educati<strong>on</strong>,<br />
for the compilati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> agricultural statistics, for the <strong>in</strong>troducti<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> new and better crops and for improvement <strong>in</strong> agricultural<br />
practice, dairy farm<strong>in</strong>g and the breed<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> stock;<br />
(b) the exist<strong>in</strong>g methods <strong>of</strong> transport and market<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> agricultural<br />
produce and stock ;<br />
(c) the methods by which agricultural operati<strong>on</strong>s are f<strong>in</strong>anced and<br />
credit afforded to agriculturists;<br />
(d) the ma<strong>in</strong> factors affect<strong>in</strong>g rura.l prosperity and the welfare <strong>of</strong> the<br />
agricultural populati<strong>on</strong>;<br />
and to make recommendati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />
It will not be with<strong>in</strong> the scope <strong>of</strong> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Commissi<strong>on</strong></str<strong>on</strong>g>'s duties to ma.ke<br />
recommendati<strong>on</strong>s rega.rd<strong>in</strong>g the exist<strong>in</strong>g system <strong>of</strong> landownership and<br />
tena.ncy or <strong>of</strong> the assessment <strong>of</strong> la.nd revenue and irrigati<strong>on</strong> charges, or<br />
the exist<strong>in</strong>g divisi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> functi<strong>on</strong>s between the Government <strong>of</strong> <strong>India</strong> and<br />
the local Governments. But the Commjssi<strong>on</strong> shall be at liberty to suggest<br />
means whereby the activities <strong>of</strong> the Governments <strong>in</strong> <strong>India</strong> may best be<br />
co-ord<strong>in</strong>ated and to <strong>in</strong>dicate directi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>in</strong> which the Government <strong>of</strong><br />
<strong>India</strong> may usefully supplement the activities <strong>of</strong> local Governments.<br />
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(xii) How can adult educati<strong>on</strong> <strong>in</strong> rural tracts be popularised 1<br />
(xiii) In suggest<strong>in</strong>g any scheme for better educati<strong>on</strong>al facilities <strong>in</strong><br />
rural areas, please give your views for (a) its adm<strong>in</strong>istrati<strong>on</strong><br />
and (b) its f<strong>in</strong>ance.<br />
3. Dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong> and Propaganda.<br />
(a) What are the measures which <strong>in</strong> your view have been successful <strong>in</strong><br />
<strong>in</strong>fluenc<strong>in</strong>g and improv<strong>in</strong>g the practice <strong>of</strong> oultivators 1<br />
(b) Can you make suggesti<strong>on</strong>s for <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g the effectiveness <strong>of</strong> field<br />
dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong>s 1<br />
(c) Can you suggest methods whereby cultivators may be <strong>in</strong>duced to<br />
adopt expert ad vice 1<br />
(d) If you are aware <strong>of</strong> any strik<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stances <strong>of</strong> the success or the<br />
failure <strong>of</strong> dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong> and propaganda work, please give particulars<br />
and <strong>in</strong>dicate the reas<strong>on</strong>s for success or for failure.<br />
4. Adm<strong>in</strong>istrati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
(a) Do you wish to suggest mean!i towards the better co-ord<strong>in</strong>ati<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> the activit.ies <strong>of</strong> the Government!i <strong>in</strong> <strong>India</strong> or to <strong>in</strong>dicate directi<strong>on</strong>s<br />
<strong>in</strong> which the Government <strong>of</strong> <strong>India</strong> may usefully supplement the activities<br />
<strong>of</strong> the local Governments 1<br />
(b) Is it your op<strong>in</strong>i<strong>on</strong> that the expert scientific knowledge required<br />
<strong>in</strong> the development <strong>of</strong> 8.griculture <strong>in</strong> the different Prov<strong>in</strong>ces could be<br />
supplied to 0. greater extent than is the case at present by <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g<br />
the scientific staff <strong>of</strong> the Government <strong>of</strong> <strong>India</strong> 1 If so, <strong>in</strong>dicate the types<br />
<strong>of</strong> work which would b£'nefit by pool<strong>in</strong>g the services <strong>of</strong> experts, and<br />
suggest how that work should be c<strong>on</strong>trolled.<br />
(c) AIe you satisfied from the agricultural standpo<strong>in</strong>t with the services<br />
afforded by-<br />
(i) The Agricultural and Veter<strong>in</strong>ary Services,<br />
(ii) Railways and steamers,<br />
(iii) Roads,<br />
(iv) Meteorological Department,<br />
(v) Posts, and<br />
(vi) Telegraphs, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g wireless 1<br />
If not, please <strong>in</strong>dicate directi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>in</strong> which you th<strong>in</strong>k these Services<br />
might be improved or extended.<br />
5. F<strong>in</strong>ance.<br />
(a) What are your views as to the steps that should be taken for the<br />
better f<strong>in</strong>anc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> agricultural operati<strong>on</strong>s and for the provisi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> short<br />
and l<strong>on</strong>g-term credit to cultivators 1<br />
(b) Do you wish to suggest means whereby cultivators may be <strong>in</strong>duced<br />
to make fuller use <strong>of</strong> the Government system <strong>of</strong> taccavi 1<br />
6. Agricultural Indebtedness.<br />
(a) What <strong>in</strong> your op<strong>in</strong>i<strong>on</strong> are :-<br />
(i) the ma<strong>in</strong> causes 1)£ borrow<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
(ii) the sources <strong>of</strong> credit, and<br />
(i·ii) the reas<strong>on</strong>s prevent<strong>in</strong>g repayment.
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(e) What mea.'lures should Government take to encourage the reclamati<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> areas <strong>of</strong> cultivable land which have g<strong>on</strong>e out <strong>of</strong> cultivati<strong>on</strong> 1<br />
10. Fertilisers.<br />
(a) In your op<strong>in</strong>i<strong>on</strong>, could greater use be rr<strong>of</strong>itably made <strong>of</strong> natural<br />
manures or artificial fertilisers 1 If so, please <strong>in</strong>dicate the. directi<strong>on</strong>s<br />
<strong>in</strong> which you th<strong>in</strong>k improvement possible.<br />
(b) Can you suggest measures to prevent the fraudulent adulterati<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> fertilisers 1<br />
(e) What methods would you employ to popularise new and improved<br />
fertilisers 1<br />
(d) Menti<strong>on</strong> any localities known to you <strong>in</strong> which a c<strong>on</strong>siderable<br />
<strong>in</strong>crease <strong>in</strong> the use <strong>of</strong> manures has recently taken place.<br />
(e) Has effect <strong>of</strong> manur<strong>in</strong>g with phosphates, nitrates, sulphate <strong>of</strong><br />
amm<strong>on</strong>ia, and potash manures been sufficiently <strong>in</strong>vestigatt:d 1 If so,<br />
what is the result <strong>of</strong> such <strong>in</strong>vestigati<strong>on</strong> 1<br />
(f) What methods would you employ to discourage the practice <strong>of</strong><br />
us<strong>in</strong>g cowdung as fuel 1<br />
11. Cropl.<br />
(a) Please give your views <strong>on</strong>--<br />
(i) the improvement <strong>of</strong> exist<strong>in</strong>g crops,<br />
(ii) the <strong>in</strong>troducti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> new crops <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g fodder crops,<br />
(iii) the distributi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> secds,<br />
(itl) the preventi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> damage by wild animals.<br />
(b) Can you suggest any heavy yield<strong>in</strong>g food crops <strong>in</strong> replacement <strong>of</strong><br />
the present crops 1<br />
(e) Any successful efforts <strong>in</strong> improv<strong>in</strong>g crops or substitut<strong>in</strong>g more<br />
pr<strong>of</strong>itable ('''ops which have come under your own observati<strong>on</strong> should be<br />
menti<strong>on</strong>ed.<br />
12. Cultivati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
Can you suggest improvements <strong>in</strong><br />
(i) the exist<strong>in</strong>g system <strong>of</strong> tillage, or<br />
(ii) the customary rotati<strong>on</strong>s or mixtures <strong>of</strong> the more important crops 1<br />
13. Crop Protecti<strong>on</strong>, Internal and External.<br />
Please give your views <strong>on</strong>-<br />
(i) The efficacy and sufficiency <strong>of</strong> exist<strong>in</strong>g measures for protecti<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> crops from external <strong>in</strong>fecti<strong>on</strong>, pests and diseases.<br />
(ii) The desirability <strong>of</strong> adopt<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>ternal measures aga<strong>in</strong>st <strong>in</strong>fecti<strong>on</strong>.<br />
'14. Implements.<br />
(a) Have you any suggesti<strong>on</strong> for the improvement <strong>of</strong> exist<strong>in</strong>g. or the<br />
<strong>in</strong>troducti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> new, agricultural implements and mach<strong>in</strong>ery 1<br />
(b) What steps do you th<strong>in</strong>k may usefully be taken to huten the<br />
adopti<strong>on</strong> by the cultivator <strong>of</strong> improved implements 1
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18. Agricultural Labour.<br />
(a) ,,,at measures, if any, should he taken to attract agricultural<br />
labour from areas <strong>in</strong> which there is a surplus to-<br />
(i) areas under cultivati<strong>on</strong> \n which there is a shortage <strong>of</strong> such labour 1<br />
and<br />
(ii) areas <strong>in</strong> which large tracts <strong>of</strong> cultivable land rema<strong>in</strong> uncultivated 1<br />
Please dist<strong>in</strong>guish between suggesti<strong>on</strong>s designed to relieve seas<strong>on</strong>al<br />
unemployment and proposals for the permanent migrati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> agricultural<br />
populati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
(b) If there is any shortage <strong>of</strong> agricultural laboll1" <strong>in</strong> your Prov<strong>in</strong>ce,<br />
what are the causes there<strong>of</strong> and how could they be removed 1<br />
(c) Can you suggest measures designed to facilitate the occupati<strong>on</strong><br />
and development, by surplus agricultural labour, <strong>of</strong> areas not at present<br />
under cultivati<strong>on</strong> 1<br />
19. Forests.<br />
(a) Do you c<strong>on</strong>sider that forest lands as such are at present be<strong>in</strong>g put<br />
to their fullest use for agricultural purposes 1 For <strong>in</strong>stance, are graz<strong>in</strong>g<br />
facilities granted to the extent compatible with the proper preservati<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> forest areas 1 If not, state the changes or developments <strong>in</strong> current<br />
practice which you c<strong>on</strong>sider advisable.<br />
(b) Can you suggest means whereby the supply <strong>of</strong> firewood and fodder<br />
<strong>in</strong> rural areas may be <strong>in</strong>creased 1<br />
(c) Has deteriorati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> forests led to soil erosi<strong>on</strong> 1 What remedies<br />
would you suggest for erosi<strong>on</strong> and damage from floods 1<br />
(d) Can you <strong>in</strong>dicate any methods by which supply <strong>of</strong> moisture <strong>in</strong> the<br />
soil, the ra<strong>in</strong>fall and supply <strong>of</strong> canal water can be <strong>in</strong>creased and regulated<br />
by afforestati<strong>on</strong> or by thtl <strong>in</strong>creased protecti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> forests so as to benefit<br />
agriculture 1 Would the same methods be useful <strong>in</strong> prevent<strong>in</strong>g the<br />
destructi<strong>on</strong> by erosi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> agricultural land 1<br />
(e) Is there an open<strong>in</strong>g for schemes <strong>of</strong> afforestati<strong>on</strong> <strong>in</strong> the neighbourhood<br />
<strong>of</strong> villages 1<br />
(j) Are forests suffer<strong>in</strong>g deteriorati<strong>on</strong> from excessive graz<strong>in</strong>g 1 Is<br />
soil erosi<strong>on</strong> be<strong>in</strong>g thereby facilitated 1· Suggest remedies.<br />
20. Market<strong>in</strong>g.<br />
(a) Do you c<strong>on</strong>sider exist<strong>in</strong>g market facilities to be satisfactory 1<br />
Please specify and criticise the markets to which you refer, and make<br />
suggesti<strong>on</strong>s for their improvement.<br />
(b) Are you satisfied with the exist<strong>in</strong>g system <strong>of</strong> market<strong>in</strong>g and distributi<strong>on</strong><br />
1 If not, please <strong>in</strong>dicate the produce to which you refer and describe<br />
and criticise <strong>in</strong> detail the channels <strong>of</strong> market<strong>in</strong>g and distributi<strong>on</strong> from<br />
the producer to the c<strong>on</strong>sumer <strong>in</strong> <strong>India</strong> (or exporter <strong>in</strong> the case <strong>of</strong> produce<br />
exported overseas). State the services rendered by each <strong>in</strong>termediary<br />
and whether such <strong>in</strong>termediary acts <strong>in</strong> the capacity <strong>of</strong> merchant or<br />
commissi<strong>on</strong> agent, and comment up<strong>on</strong> the efficiency <strong>of</strong> these services and<br />
the marg<strong>in</strong>s up<strong>on</strong> which such <strong>in</strong>termediaries operate. Please describe
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IFTRODUCTION<br />
PnJ!:e<br />
1. General Features xv<br />
2. Prov<strong>in</strong>cial Income and Expenditure xviii<br />
3. Revenue Adm<strong>in</strong>istrat.i<strong>on</strong> and Land Records xx<br />
4-. The Cultivator xxi<br />
5. The Agricultural Department. XXlIJ<br />
6. The Veter<strong>in</strong>ary Department XXVI<br />
7. Irrigati<strong>on</strong> xxvi<br />
8. Forestry <strong>in</strong> relat.i<strong>on</strong> 1 () <strong>Agriculture</strong> XXVlll<br />
9. Genrral Educati<strong>on</strong> xxix<br />
10. Co-operati<strong>on</strong> xxx<br />
11. Communicati<strong>on</strong>s and MRl'ket<strong>in</strong>g xnii<br />
12. Local Self-Govemment xxxiii<br />
13. Public Health and Sanitati<strong>on</strong> XXXIV<br />
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(4) rao or raewari, soil enriched by the detritus <strong>of</strong> hill torrents, and<br />
(5) dasar, a term widely used for s<strong>of</strong>t or light coloured but<br />
productive soil. Besides these, there is also the kalla1' or salt-affected<br />
land.<br />
Ow<strong>in</strong>g to the absence <strong>of</strong> m<strong>on</strong>so<strong>on</strong> ra<strong>in</strong>fall, the climate <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d ranks<br />
am<strong>on</strong>gst the hottest <strong>in</strong> <strong>India</strong>. On the coast, sea-breezes. render it<br />
equable but, <strong>in</strong> northern S<strong>in</strong>d, variati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>of</strong> temperatures are extreme.<br />
For the whole prov<strong>in</strong>ce, the average mean temperature <strong>of</strong> the summer<br />
m<strong>on</strong>ths is 95° and that <strong>of</strong> the w<strong>in</strong>ter m<strong>on</strong>ths 60°. In the north, the<br />
summer maximum frequently rises to 114.0 and occasi<strong>on</strong>ally to 125 0 ;<br />
while <strong>in</strong> the w<strong>in</strong>ter, frost occurs at night and, even <strong>in</strong> the day time,<br />
the temperature falls to 40°. Nowhere <strong>in</strong> <strong>India</strong> is the hot weather<br />
so prol<strong>on</strong>ged.<br />
The ra<strong>in</strong>fall <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d is very scanty and irregular; <strong>in</strong> some years,<br />
there may be no ra<strong>in</strong>, and <strong>in</strong> others cycl<strong>on</strong>ic storms may br<strong>in</strong>g<br />
16 <strong>in</strong>ches <strong>in</strong> a day. The average is about 8 <strong>in</strong>ches. Except<strong>in</strong> the<br />
two areas noted below, cultivati<strong>on</strong> depends not up<strong>on</strong> the ra<strong>in</strong>fall,<br />
but up<strong>on</strong> the river· Indus. These areas are the hilly tract <strong>of</strong><br />
Kohistan <strong>on</strong> the west, and the tract to the south-east <strong>of</strong> the<br />
prov<strong>in</strong>ce known as the Thar deRert. These tracts are above the<br />
ri ver valley and cannot be reached by canals; ra<strong>in</strong>fall is uncerta<strong>in</strong><br />
and the cultivati<strong>on</strong> is most precarious. The <strong>in</strong>habitants are chiefly<br />
nomadic cattle and camel breeders, and, t.o them, agriculture is <strong>on</strong>ly a<br />
subsidiary <strong>in</strong>dustry.<br />
The height and durati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> the <strong>in</strong>undati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> the river is<br />
dependent <strong>on</strong> the melt<strong>in</strong>g vf the snows <strong>in</strong> the Himalayas and<br />
<strong>on</strong> the ra<strong>in</strong>fall <strong>in</strong> the Punjab, and varies greatly. If the river<br />
rema<strong>in</strong>s high from May to September, a bumper harvest may be<br />
reaped over an area <strong>of</strong> 4')) milli<strong>on</strong> acres. If the river fails, as it<br />
did <strong>in</strong> 1918-19, the area falls to 2'75 milli<strong>on</strong> acres and the outturn is<br />
very poor.<br />
The most important crop <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d is rice (1,000,000 acres). The next<br />
<strong>in</strong> importance is bajri, which covers almost the same area. The other<br />
important food crops are jua1" (600,000 acres), wheat (500,000 acres),<br />
and gram (200,000 acres). Am<strong>on</strong>gst n<strong>on</strong>-food crops, cott<strong>on</strong> was cultivated<br />
last year <strong>in</strong> 326,000 acres and oil-seeds <strong>in</strong> about the same area.<br />
Dur<strong>in</strong>g the decade, 1911-21, the m<strong>in</strong>imum annual value <strong>of</strong> the crops <strong>in</strong><br />
the whole <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d was, accord<strong>in</strong>g to an estimate made by the Agricultural<br />
Department. Rs. 11 crores <strong>in</strong> 1918-19 and the maximum Rs. 24'5<br />
crores <strong>in</strong> 1916-17. The relative importance <strong>of</strong> the chief ('ropR <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d is<br />
shown by the diagram which precedes page xiv.<br />
Rotati<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> crops is little pntctised <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d. Large areas are kept<br />
fallow every year. The area privately owned but not cultivated<br />
exceeds the net cropped area. Government waste land <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g<br />
forest forms two-thirds <strong>of</strong> the entire arf':t <strong>of</strong> thr prov<strong>in</strong>ce and <strong>of</strong> th:s<br />
ahout a thircl iR cultnrable \\"llste.
xxxi<br />
Dur<strong>in</strong>g the same period the memberRhip and work<strong>in</strong>g cap:tal<br />
<strong>in</strong>cr86sed from 3,000 and Rs. 1,63,000 to 19,000 and Rs. 38 laklu;<br />
respectively. At the end <strong>of</strong> l\Iurch 1927, the corre p<strong>on</strong>dil 1g figures were<br />
863, 39,247, and Rs. 137Ial
xxxv<br />
due t.o faulty registrati<strong>on</strong>. Infantile deMit ratfl is "ery high. 18TJ for<br />
J..,OOO·registered birthfl.<br />
Every district except the Upper S<strong>in</strong>d Fr<strong>on</strong>tier haR It Civil Surge<strong>on</strong>.<br />
For sanitati<strong>on</strong> and vacc<strong>in</strong>ati<strong>on</strong> there is an Assistant Director <strong>of</strong> Public<br />
Health for the provU:ce ,vho has his own staff <strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>spectors and<br />
vacc<strong>in</strong>a.tors. There are Reveral hospitals <strong>in</strong> the district townR and<br />
numerous charitable dispensaries <strong>in</strong> the smaller townR. Vacc<strong>in</strong>ati<strong>on</strong><br />
has made satisfnctory progress.<br />
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58008. Yes, and <strong>in</strong> the Prov<strong>in</strong>ce generally?'-Yes, I th<strong>in</strong>k I am, <strong>on</strong> the<br />
whole. I have made a po<strong>in</strong>t <strong>in</strong> my note which I do not know whether you<br />
have noticed, and that is as to the questi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> the pers<strong>on</strong>ality <strong>of</strong> <strong>of</strong>ficers.<br />
58900. Yes, I noticed that?-To that I attach -ilie greatest importance. I<br />
hlLve known <strong>of</strong>ficers who have been most erudite <strong>in</strong> research and keen <strong>on</strong> their<br />
pr<strong>of</strong>essi<strong>on</strong> who have been no use at all <strong>in</strong> go<strong>in</strong>g out and <strong>in</strong>stilliqg these ideas<br />
<strong>in</strong>to the m<strong>in</strong>ds <strong>of</strong> the people. I have <strong>in</strong> m<strong>in</strong>d <strong>on</strong>e <strong>of</strong>ficer \Vh. used to be<br />
Director <strong>of</strong> <strong>Agriculture</strong> <strong>in</strong> the Bombay Presidency who was a bbrn agriculturist,<br />
a farmer by pr<strong>of</strong>essi<strong>on</strong> and a fanner by birth; that <strong>of</strong>ficer used to get <strong>in</strong>to the<br />
closest touch with the cultivators, which I do not th<strong>in</strong>k is the case when we<br />
attlLch too much importance to the aClLdemic side <strong>of</strong> an <strong>of</strong>ficer's qualificati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />
58910. Do you th<strong>in</strong>k that full use is be<strong>in</strong>g made <strong>of</strong> the silt <strong>in</strong> the Indus<br />
from tbe agricultural po<strong>in</strong>t oJ view?-Yes; but so far as the old blLd canals<br />
are c<strong>on</strong>cerned a grelLt deal <strong>of</strong> it has beell dropped <strong>on</strong> the ",ay.<br />
58911. Will your canals can'y it strlLight <strong>on</strong> to the fields ?-Yes, we want<br />
noth<strong>in</strong>g to drop <strong>in</strong> the canals other than silt <strong>in</strong> the berms; after that, everyth<strong>in</strong>g<br />
is to go <strong>on</strong> the land, and we have to calcullLte our velocity <strong>of</strong> W:lter to<br />
give that effect; the silt must l!0 <strong>on</strong> the land.<br />
58912. That should be IL very valuable c<strong>on</strong>tributi<strong>on</strong> to the fertility <strong>of</strong> the<br />
Prov<strong>in</strong>ce?-Yes, extremely.<br />
Mr. C. B. C. Harris<strong>on</strong>.<br />
(The witness withdrew.)
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(c) I have c<strong>on</strong>ducted DO enquiry nor seen· the results <strong>of</strong> any enquiry c<strong>on</strong>ducted<br />
<strong>in</strong> places which I have visited <strong>in</strong> other parts <strong>of</strong> IneUa.<br />
QUESTION 26.-STATIBTIcs.-(a) The steps taken at present by the Local<br />
Government to collect st"tistics are sufficient.<br />
(b) I have no suggesti<strong>on</strong> to make except that care should be taken to<br />
collect '<strong>on</strong>ly accurate <strong>in</strong>formati<strong>on</strong>. Pers<strong>on</strong>s employed to collect <strong>in</strong>formatiotl<br />
.,ery <strong>of</strong>ten, ow<strong>in</strong>g to pressure <strong>of</strong> work, <strong>in</strong>vent it.<br />
Khan Bahadur Shah Nawaz Khan Bhutto ..
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59845. So far as agricultural matters are c<strong>on</strong>cerned do you adm<strong>in</strong>ister <strong>in</strong><br />
.any case?-Xo.<br />
59846. Agricultural problems as such do not come before you at all ?-Xo;<br />
they do not.<br />
59847. What has been y<strong>on</strong>r experience <strong>of</strong> the Agricultural DepaI'tment?<br />
I have been an <strong>of</strong>ficer <strong>in</strong> the Re"enue Depal·tment, and as a Revenue Department<br />
<strong>of</strong>ficer I have cOllle <strong>in</strong>to c<strong>on</strong>tact with the Agricultural Department, and<br />
I th<strong>in</strong>k it is a very good department .<br />
. 59848. How l<strong>on</strong>g have you come <strong>in</strong>to c<strong>on</strong>tact with the Agricultural Departmcnt?-For<br />
the last eighteen years.<br />
59849. I do not know how l<strong>on</strong>g you have been <strong>in</strong> charge <strong>of</strong> the Encumbered<br />
Estates ?-For four years.<br />
59850. You still come <strong>in</strong>to c<strong>on</strong>tact with the work <strong>of</strong> the Agricultural Department?-Yes.<br />
59851. Has it improved s<strong>in</strong>ce you first came <strong>in</strong>to c<strong>on</strong>tact with it?-It is<br />
gradually improv<strong>in</strong>g.<br />
59852. In what has it failed <strong>in</strong> the ma<strong>in</strong> ?-In the ma<strong>in</strong>, <strong>on</strong> the dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong><br />
side. The dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong>s do not arouse any enthusiasm <strong>in</strong> the public<br />
at large. It is <strong>on</strong>ly after the taluka development associati<strong>on</strong>s came <strong>in</strong>to<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g that the public have come to realise the value <strong>of</strong> the researches <strong>of</strong> the<br />
Agricultural Department. The dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong>s are not carried out <strong>on</strong> ec<strong>on</strong>omic<br />
l<strong>in</strong>es. The Agricultural Department do not know what they spend and<br />
what they realise. The agriculturist f<strong>in</strong>ds that he will have to spend a good<br />
deal more than he actually gets; he is never able to make the <strong>in</strong>itial outlay<br />
<strong>on</strong> the scale Government are able to make, nor can he afford to employ the<br />
1itaff that Government employ.<br />
59853. One more questi<strong>on</strong> about your own particular resp<strong>on</strong>sibility. Do<br />
'you as a department lend m<strong>on</strong>ey?-Never.<br />
59854. Sir ThomalJ Middlet<strong>on</strong>: I am not quite clear as to what you do for<br />
the landowner; is any landowner at liberty to apply to you?-One who pays<br />
more than three hundred rupees as annual assessment .•<br />
598;")5. And :rou, <strong>on</strong> the other hand, are able to refuse to take up his affairs<br />
()r to accept the charge <strong>of</strong> his affairsP-I have to make a recommendati<strong>on</strong>,<br />
and it is for the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Commissi<strong>on</strong></str<strong>on</strong>g>er to decide.<br />
59856. Your management is exclusively f<strong>in</strong>ancial; you look after his accounts<br />
?-More or less, exclusively f<strong>in</strong>ancial.<br />
59857. I do not quite see, if the technical management is bad, how ;your<br />
f<strong>in</strong>ancial management can assist him?-Jt is generally <strong>in</strong>debtedness that drives<br />
these people <strong>in</strong>to debt, and not any defect <strong>in</strong> the technical management;<br />
technical management has noth<strong>in</strong>g to do with it.<br />
59858. Then, their difficulties arise from improvident borrow<strong>in</strong>g and such<br />
th<strong>in</strong>gs?-Yes.<br />
59859. You endeavour to reduce the rate <strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>terest that he has to pay p<br />
I th<strong>in</strong>k we have reduced it very much. I have got a statement prepared <strong>of</strong><br />
't\'hat the department has d<strong>on</strong>e ever s<strong>in</strong>ce it was formed, and I can show it.<br />
In the first year, <strong>in</strong>terest was reduced from ten lakhs to four lakhs.<br />
59860. What percentage <strong>of</strong> landholders has come under your department?<br />
-So far, there have been twelve hundred estates from the beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> the<br />
uepartment .<br />
. 59861. What percentage do they form <strong>of</strong> the landholders <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d?-It<br />
means that alrq.ost all the big landholders have been through it <strong>on</strong>ce or more.<br />
;)9862. You are look<strong>in</strong>g after the f<strong>in</strong>ancial affairs <strong>of</strong> nearly all the zam<strong>in</strong>dars<br />
<strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d ?-l\Iost <strong>of</strong> them have been through it.<br />
59863. Dr. Hyder: What is the total amount <strong>of</strong> assessments paid <strong>of</strong> over<br />
three hundred rupees ?-I cannot say exactly; about <strong>on</strong>e thousand I th<strong>in</strong>k.<br />
59864. You have had more than tweh'e hundred estates?-Yes; from the<br />
beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g, <strong>in</strong> serial order, up to date there have been twelve hundred estates.<br />
Khan Bahadur Xahi Baksh lIuhammad Hussa<strong>in</strong>.
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(b) (iii) The large percentage <strong>of</strong> cereal crops culti\'ated presupposes a sufficiency<br />
<strong>of</strong> dry foddel' throughout the Prov<strong>in</strong>ce, but a large quantity is sold<br />
<strong>of</strong>f, The cultivator, as a rule, feeds the cattle properly dur<strong>in</strong>g the busy<br />
seas<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly, turn<strong>in</strong>g them out to graze <strong>in</strong> the recently han'ested fields and<br />
waste lands for the rema<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g part <strong>of</strong> the year, l;'ith the result that the<br />
animals are almost stan'ed out, The pPc,uniary liabilities <strong>of</strong> the farmer are<br />
the ma<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>centive to the sale <strong>of</strong> fodder.<br />
(iv) In the dry seas<strong>on</strong>, December to July, green feed is not available and<br />
its absence tells much <strong>on</strong> the yield <strong>of</strong> milch cattle.<br />
(c) April to June is the period <strong>of</strong> fodder shortage <strong>in</strong> the Prov<strong>in</strong>ce.<br />
Scarcity <strong>of</strong> fodder exists for twelve weeks throughout April, May and June.<br />
Prelim<strong>in</strong>ary flood<strong>in</strong>g takes place <strong>in</strong> July. After this, young grow<strong>in</strong>g cattle<br />
beg<strong>in</strong> to thrive <strong>on</strong> cultivated fodders and grasses which last till Octoberljovember<br />
.<br />
• (d) Better facilities for irrigati<strong>on</strong> water will improve fodder supply.<br />
(e) 1. For the benefit <strong>of</strong> village cattle Government should make hun<br />
grants for the growth <strong>of</strong> babul trees and natural grasses to each village, to<br />
be managed by the villagers themselves <strong>on</strong> the basis <strong>of</strong> co-operati<strong>on</strong>. Each<br />
hun may be about ten acres or more, depend<strong>in</strong>g up<strong>on</strong> the size <strong>of</strong> the village.<br />
2. Breed<strong>in</strong>g bulls from Government cattle stati<strong>on</strong>s should be issued gratis<br />
<strong>in</strong> the first <strong>in</strong>stance to important ,'illages.<br />
3. Annual cattle exhibiti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> a small scale may be held <strong>in</strong> each taluka,<br />
prizes be<strong>in</strong>g awarded <strong>on</strong> the basis <strong>of</strong> actual performance and c<strong>on</strong>stituti<strong>on</strong>.<br />
QUESTION 17.-AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRIEs.-(a) In places where both rabi<br />
and khari/ cultivati<strong>on</strong> is possible, the cultivator has work all the year round i<br />
but where there is khan/ cultivati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly he has <strong>on</strong>ly six m<strong>on</strong>ths' work.<br />
In the slack seas<strong>on</strong> he--<br />
(1) takes a h'oliday to attend fairs, <strong>of</strong> which there is a good number <strong>in</strong><br />
S<strong>in</strong>d;<br />
(2) attends religious or social functi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>in</strong> or out <strong>of</strong> his village;<br />
(3) does cart<strong>in</strong>g and camel driv<strong>in</strong>g <strong>on</strong> wages;<br />
(4) is engaged <strong>in</strong> canal clearance work;<br />
(5) tends his livestock;<br />
(6) works for daily w!lges <strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>structi<strong>on</strong> works, especially near tOWI1S.<br />
(c) Extremes <strong>of</strong> climatic c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s do not favour bee-keep<strong>in</strong>g and sericulture.<br />
Poultry rear<strong>in</strong>g is already d<strong>on</strong>e <strong>on</strong> a limited scale,. Fruit grow<strong>in</strong>g<br />
will not be undertaken by the cultivator as he has no permanent <strong>in</strong>terest <strong>in</strong><br />
the hold<strong>in</strong>g, nor are the c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>of</strong> water supply favourable. For lac<br />
culture and rope mak<strong>in</strong>g there is some scope and they are practised ,wherever<br />
the necessary material is available. There is no scope for pis(,iculture as<br />
there is already a large quantity <strong>of</strong> fish available naturally.<br />
(e) Wherever there is raw produce, c<strong>on</strong>cerns such as g<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g factories and<br />
rice hull<strong>in</strong>g mills have already established themselves near rural areas and<br />
these absorb some <strong>of</strong> the spare labour. Similarly small flour mills may with<br />
advantage be opened <strong>in</strong> wheat grow<strong>in</strong>g tracts.<br />
(g) In view <strong>of</strong> the anticipated agricultural development <strong>of</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d due to<br />
the Lloyd Barrage, rur,al populati<strong>on</strong> will have sufficient employment <strong>in</strong> agricultural<br />
operati<strong>on</strong>s all the year round.<br />
(h) Travell<strong>in</strong>g health <strong>of</strong>ficers should be appo<strong>in</strong>ted whose duty it should be<br />
to tour rural arei's periodically and lecture <strong>on</strong> the elements <strong>of</strong> hygiene.<br />
QUESTION 18.-AGBlCULTUIlAL LADouR.-(a) (i) This Prov<strong>in</strong>ce be<strong>in</strong>g sparsely<br />
populated, there is no need'to attract agricultural labour from <strong>on</strong>e area to<br />
another.<br />
(ii) Large tracts <strong>of</strong> cultivable land rema<strong>in</strong> uncultivated at present for<br />
want <strong>of</strong> water. When the Barrage is <strong>in</strong> work<strong>in</strong>g order people from c<strong>on</strong>gested<br />
areas outside S<strong>in</strong>d will have to be attracted by giv<strong>in</strong>g them grants <strong>of</strong> land,<br />
•<br />
Khan Bahadur Gulmahomed Abdur Rahman.
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80 that there may be no unnecessary duplicati<strong>on</strong>; ILnd the research <strong>in</strong>stitutes<br />
may <strong>in</strong> the c<strong>on</strong>duct <strong>of</strong> their work carefully note, and then <strong>in</strong>dicate to<br />
<strong>on</strong>e another, the local or central nature and char'\cter <strong>of</strong> the various collateral<br />
problems that appear to them to be press<strong>in</strong>g for soluti<strong>on</strong>.<br />
(b) It is my op<strong>in</strong>i<strong>on</strong> that by <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g the scientific staff <strong>of</strong> the Government<br />
<strong>of</strong> <strong>India</strong>, and <strong>India</strong>nis<strong>in</strong>g it as far and as early as possible, the varied<br />
expert scientific knowledge required <strong>in</strong> the development <strong>of</strong> agriculture <strong>in</strong><br />
the different Prov<strong>in</strong>ces could be supplied to a greater extent than is the<br />
case at present.<br />
The types <strong>of</strong> work which would benefit by pool<strong>in</strong>g the services <strong>of</strong> experts<br />
are various, e.g., sericulture, producti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> lac and other res<strong>in</strong>s, tann<strong>in</strong>g<br />
mater<strong>in</strong>ls, growth <strong>of</strong> useful trees, etc. The c<strong>on</strong>trol here should be central.<br />
Decentralisati<strong>on</strong> would promote development <strong>of</strong> different Prov<strong>in</strong>ces while not<br />
prevent<strong>in</strong>g their participati<strong>on</strong> <strong>in</strong> the life <strong>of</strong> the Central GovernmeIit.<br />
(c) I am fairly satisfied from the agricultural standpo<strong>in</strong>t with the services<br />
afforded <strong>in</strong> the whole <strong>of</strong> <strong>India</strong> by the Agricultural Service, railways<br />
and steamers, posts and telegraphs exclud<strong>in</strong>g wireless, but not at all by the<br />
Veter<strong>in</strong>ary Service, Meteorological Department, roads or wireless telegraphy.<br />
The fairly satisfactory services should be made more satisfactory.<br />
The Agricultural Service should be better organised <strong>in</strong> its pers<strong>on</strong>nel, dem<strong>on</strong>strati<strong>on</strong>s<br />
and propaganda, as has been '<strong>in</strong> substance <strong>in</strong>dicated above.<br />
Railways and steamers should so regulate their freights as to help <strong>in</strong> the<br />
cheapen<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> the cost <strong>of</strong> agricultural produce, and <strong>in</strong> the <strong>in</strong>dustrialisati<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> agriculture, as should posts and telegraphs by reduc<strong>in</strong>g their charges. The<br />
Veter<strong>in</strong>ary Service at any rate <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d, the Meteorological Department,<br />
roads and wireless telegraphy are yet <strong>in</strong> their <strong>in</strong>cipient stages <strong>of</strong> existence<br />
and need c<strong>on</strong>siderable development. Trunk roads <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>d must so<strong>on</strong> be<br />
metalled. The agriculturist must know whether or not he is to expect ra<strong>in</strong><br />
<strong>in</strong> any seas<strong>on</strong>. A metalled road with<strong>in</strong> two miles <strong>of</strong> every village and a<br />
railway with<strong>in</strong> eight miles <strong>of</strong> it can and should so<strong>on</strong> be secured for the<br />
success <strong>of</strong> agriculture <strong>in</strong> every Prov<strong>in</strong>ce.<br />
QUESTION 5.-FINANCE.-My 'dews as to the steps that should be taken<br />
for the better f<strong>in</strong>anc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> agricultural operati<strong>on</strong>s and for the provisi<strong>on</strong><br />
<strong>of</strong> short and l<strong>on</strong>g term credit to cultivators are as follows:-<br />
(1) So de"elop the co-operative credit societi'es that the provisi<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong><br />
short-term credit for the cultivators for all their operati<strong>on</strong>s<br />
may he found sufficient, so that the cultivators may not need<br />
to apply to the sowcar (m<strong>on</strong>eylender) for any help; and so<br />
organise agricultural educati<strong>on</strong> that the cultivators may view<br />
the co-operative credit societies as liv<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stituti<strong>on</strong>s well able<br />
to f<strong>in</strong>ance all their operati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />
(2) Establish land mortgage banks, also called land banks or agricultural<br />
banks, at least <strong>on</strong>e <strong>in</strong> each district, which should give<br />
cultivators l<strong>on</strong>g-term credit, wherever necessary and deserved,<br />
<strong>in</strong>formati<strong>on</strong> regard<strong>in</strong>g which should be made available for them<br />
by the co-operative credit societies.<br />
The m<strong>on</strong>eylender lUa:y thus be made to disappear or he may then<br />
f<strong>in</strong>d it to his benefit to <strong>in</strong>vest some <strong>of</strong> his m<strong>on</strong>ey <strong>in</strong> the co-operati"e<br />
credit societies and the land mortgage banks.<br />
(3) Government tacea ui, which should supplement the work d<strong>on</strong>e by<br />
the co-operative credit societies and the land mortgage banks,<br />
should be worked less rigidly, nay, more easily, <strong>in</strong> the matter<br />
<strong>of</strong> its distributi<strong>on</strong> and collecti<strong>on</strong>. Not the revenue <strong>of</strong>ficers but<br />
the village panchayats, and much easier <strong>in</strong>stalments fixed by the<br />
panchayats themselves, may make this source <strong>of</strong> f<strong>in</strong>ancial help<br />
to cultivators really useful.<br />
QUESTION 6.-AGRICULTURAL lNDEBTEDSB9S.-(i) In my op<strong>in</strong>i<strong>on</strong>, borrow<strong>in</strong>gs<br />
are to be dist<strong>in</strong>guished between those needed for ord<strong>in</strong>ary operati<strong>on</strong>s and<br />
those needed for improvements. Borrow<strong>in</strong>gs for improvements may reas<strong>on</strong>ably<br />
have' to be made by the cultivator, who as a rule, f<strong>in</strong>ds it difficult<br />
Mr. S. C. Shahani.
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We might go <strong>in</strong> for necessary modifi('ati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>in</strong> them now, hav<strong>in</strong>g regard to<br />
the c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s under which they have to be made to work.<br />
60616. The Chairman: They were sp<strong>on</strong>taneously arganised <strong>in</strong> the village;<br />
they were not imposed by any authority outside the village, were tQey?-:<br />
But the organisati<strong>on</strong> has disappeared under the stress <strong>of</strong> the democratIc<br />
ideas which come to the East from the West, so· that now a k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong> compromise<br />
is required.<br />
60617. You do not th<strong>in</strong>k the <strong>in</strong>creased communicati<strong>on</strong>s have had someth<strong>in</strong>g<br />
to do with it ?-No, I do not th<strong>in</strong>k so; the villages are <strong>in</strong> a bad c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong><br />
from other causes.<br />
60618. Sir Jame& MacKenna: What is the Acala type <strong>of</strong> cott<strong>on</strong> to which<br />
you referred ?-It is l<strong>on</strong>ger stapled, silkier and less amenable to pests.<br />
60619. Is it Egyptian or American ?-American.<br />
60620. Where does it come from ?-The seed WItS directly imported from<br />
America.<br />
60621. By Mr. Henders<strong>on</strong> probably?-By Dr. Mann.<br />
60622. So that it is quite recapt, is it?-Quite recent.<br />
60623. What sort <strong>of</strong> staple is it?-It is about <strong>on</strong>e <strong>in</strong>ch and 1IIore, and<br />
silky and white, and the proporti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> l<strong>in</strong>t <strong>in</strong> it is also greater.<br />
60624. Do you th<strong>in</strong>k it is a good type for S<strong>in</strong>d, or worth follow<strong>in</strong>g up,<br />
anyway?-Of course, some little further experiment must be made but it<br />
seems to me to be a good <strong>on</strong>e.<br />
60625. Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Gangulee: Am I to understand that the entire area <strong>of</strong><br />
4,000 acres under you is cultivated by haris?-No, less than <strong>on</strong>e-tenth;<br />
although I own that much land, I am not able to put more than 600 or 700<br />
acres under any crop.<br />
60626. But the area you do cultivate, you cultivate through the haris?<br />
And by myself too.<br />
60627. What porti<strong>on</strong> <strong>of</strong> the total area do you cultivate as your home<br />
farm ?-In the exist<strong>in</strong>g c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s I have cultivated about 150 acres myself.<br />
60628. And that by the employment <strong>of</strong> labour?-Yes.<br />
60629. Pay<strong>in</strong>g them cash for their work?-I have two methods; I pay<br />
them a certa<strong>in</strong> IImount per m<strong>on</strong>th and I also give them a share,. such as<br />
labourers receive usually from the lIIujeris.<br />
60630. Who are the mujeris?-I shall expla<strong>in</strong>. There is the zam<strong>in</strong>dar,<br />
then, underneath him, the mujeri (manag<strong>in</strong>g cultivator); then the hari<br />
(labour<strong>in</strong>g cultivator), and then the labourer. It is wr<strong>on</strong>g to th<strong>in</strong>k that<br />
any<strong>on</strong>e who holds about twenty-five or thirty acres does the cultivati<strong>on</strong> himself;<br />
he too will employ labourers. So that the smallest unit is the labourer;<br />
then the next unit is the hari, the next unit the mujeris, and the next the<br />
zam<strong>in</strong>dar. I do away with lIL11jeri and the hari; I employ the labourer and<br />
that is do<strong>in</strong>g cultivati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> my own account.<br />
60631. Do you grow wheat <strong>on</strong> your land?-I am not able to grow wheat<br />
because water is not available <strong>in</strong> the m<strong>on</strong>th <strong>of</strong> October. Wheat has to be<br />
sown between the 25th October and the 15th November.<br />
60632. But you did grow wheat: you had Pusa wheat, did you notP-1<br />
grew Pusa 12 and two Punjab varieties, a beautiful variety <strong>of</strong> Larkana<br />
a white variety from Delhi and the S<strong>in</strong>dhi Kahno (a l<strong>on</strong>g bearded variety)'<br />
from which preferably the Italian macar<strong>on</strong>i is made. '<br />
60633. These varieties you have obta<strong>in</strong>ed from the Agricultural Department,<br />
have you not?-No, I got them myself.<br />
60634. Have you appo<strong>in</strong>ted any supervisor to supervise the work <strong>on</strong> your<br />
farm?-I have fourteen or fifteen supervisors.<br />
60635. Are they salaried men ?-They are salaried men.<br />
60636. What sort <strong>of</strong> tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g have they?-My college provides no agricul<br />
-tural tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g. I am the head cultivator. I am the tra<strong>in</strong>er.<br />
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·effort will avail them except what God has dest<strong>in</strong>ed for them,<br />
(f) want <strong>of</strong> capital "'hich they cannot raise even for their<br />
barest wants without heavy <strong>in</strong>terest, and (u) patr<strong>on</strong>ia<strong>in</strong>l policy<br />
.towards the so-called hereditary class lif cultivators.<br />
·Rao Sahib l\lharam ShE'wnkrsm