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POTTS POINT APARTMENT.
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Brian Fuata, A hANdSOME POlyNESIAN MAN, SluMPS INTO A GREEN EASy chAIR IN A TASTEfully dEcORATEd ART
dEcO APARTMENT IN ThE ’PARIS ENd’ Of POTTS POINT. OPPOSITE BRIAN, ON A cOuch, Sarah rodigari ANd
JeSSica olivieri SIP ON GlASSES Of wINE ANd EAT SEA SAlT flAVOuREd chIPS. ThE STylE Of ThE APARTMENT
cOuld BEST BE dEScRIBEd AS fOlkSy chIc. ThE ATMOSPhERE IS lIGhT ANd cONVIVIAl.
ARTwORkS By MITch cAIRNS, AGAThA GOThE-SNAPE ANd MARy MAcdOuGAll AdORN ThE wAllS. ON ThE EdGE Of ThE
lIVING ROOM STANdS AN IMPOSING BOOkcASE fIllEd wITh ART BOOkS ANd A SMAll BuT dIVERSE SElEcTION Of
fIcTION. SeBaStian goldSpink, AN INTERVIEwER wITh BROOdING GOOd lOOkS, POINTS BETwEEN SARAh ANd BRIAN.
SeBaStian goldSpink: I wanted to start off by talking to Brian and Sarah about the first time I saw you guys perform
which was back in the day with UnBecomings.
Sarah rodigari: It was a three-night season of queer performance during Mardi Gras at Performance Space.
By five or six young artists…
Brian Fuata: …Who were paired up with a mentor.
Sarah: What was the year?
Brian: 2001.
Sarah: And also in 2000 or maybe 1999.
Brian: And most of the artists came from PACT, actually all the artists came from PACT.
SeB: So the Kingpins…
Sarah: ...Were in the first one. Garth Bolwell who got married and moved to the suburbs.
Brian: Carl Velasco and myself, Rosie Dennis and Sarah [Rodigari].
JeSSica olivieri: Who curated it?
Brian: Fiona Winning did.
JeSS: Ah…
Brian: Already there was this platform for intergenerational interaction so these emerging artists
were paired with a mentor.
Sarah: Who was your mentor?
Brian: Chris Ryan. Yeah, and it was really exciting.
SeB: And when you were at PACT and I can ask this of both of you – was your intention
to be actors or performance artists?
Brian: So I stumbled onto PACT accidentally. I moved down to Sydney from Brisbane. I was introduced to
performance making. The idea of co-devising…
Sarah: …Improvisation.
Brian: Improvisation. Butoh bodywork and also the idea of interdisciplinary collaboration.
Sarah: You were going to be an actor?
Brian: Yeah acting was my thing. I always liked theatre of some sort.
SeB: And what about you, Sarah?
Sarah: I think I really liked theatre but in year 12 I did Drama for my HSC and I really liked the devised
piece as opposed to the scripted piece. My old drama teacher used to be the director of PACT
and she had said I should go there but I never did. It wasn’t until I was at uni doing theatre
studies that I joined PACT with Chris Ryan.
Brian: I had this idea of theatre and did drama studies at high school and we did this one semester of
Brecht, I was like, “I love this idea of fucking shit up.” Alienating the audience or objectifying
the audience and from there I was like, “this is my thing.”
Sarah: I studied Brecht at uni but dropped out of theatre and studied Sociology and went to PACT on the
side. It was an alternative to theatre. It was theatre but not theatre. I guess it was performance art
without saying it was performance art ‘cause you didn’t want to say it.
Brian: I don’t know how it was for you but performance meant for me something that was antiauthoritarian,
anti-traditional, anti-linear narratives and wasn’t exclusively black box based.
A kNock At the door. BrIAN getS uP to ANSwer It.
SEB: Jess, I first became aware of your practise through an institutional context through the Changing of
the Guard project at MCA. What was your pathway?
JESS: Well I went to art school and so my understanding of performance came from the visual arts. At art
school I didn’t make performance, mostly sculptures and installation. I got this grant to go overseas
and before I went I made this work that was kind of a throw away idea of having people perform in
this installation. And when I went away I found it really hard to get materials. So I started making
videos with this girl who was also on the residency. When I got back from that I pretty much started
making performances exclusively.
A door oPeNS. SAMuEl HODGE, A PhotogrAPher, eNterS wIth BrIAN.
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JESS: Hi Sam.
SARAH: Hello Samuel.
JESS: Would you like a glass of wine? Brian will get you one.
BRIAN: We are being interviewed Sam.
SAMuEl HODGE: Great – do you have a charger?
JESS: [gesturing with an open hand] Over there.
BrIAN hANdS SAmueL A gLASS of red wINe. SPoNtANeouS SINgINg uB40’S cLASSIc SoNg red red wINe eNSueS.
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SAM: So what’s the deal? Do I just take some snaps?
SEB: You just take some of these guys then later we might do some staged ones. There’s a shower scene.
SAM: What is this wine?
BRIAN: Tempranillo
SAM: It tastes so…it tastes of something?
BRIAN: Wood?
SAM: Wood!
SARAH: Tobacco.
the INtervIewer PAuSeS whILSt the grouP focuSeS he theN cutS through the forced SILeNce wIth hIS
Next queStIoN.
SEB: One thing that is very important to each of your practices is the mutual friendship between the
three of you, but also the collaborations that you work in and have worked in, in the past. So Sarah,
I’ll start with PANTHER and your collaboration with Madeleine Hodge.
SARAH: So Maddy and I met in Melbourne and we wanted to make performance works that focused on its
relationship to its audience. Maddy and I actually met at PACT. We met at a workshop with Richard
Murphet from VCA.
SAmueL, the AffABLe PhotogrAPher, StArtS tAkINg PhotoS.
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