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Joseph P. Mosconi - University of Nevada, Reno

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12 <strong>Joseph</strong> <strong>Mosconi</strong><br />

Right. I knew him.<br />

All right. His uncle lived there. They<br />

made a little cabin for him to stay right there.<br />

He had this kind <strong>of</strong> a flat ladder, and he’d<br />

climb this ladder, and he had to haul this<br />

big bucket <strong>of</strong> coals, I think it was. He’d go<br />

up there.. .and I’ll never forget. [laughter]<br />

He’d kneel down there, and he’d always name<br />

himself, bless himself. Sign <strong>of</strong> the cross. He<br />

said something up there—I don’t know what<br />

it was—then he’d dump this bucket <strong>of</strong> coals<br />

down in there. And he stayed there and<br />

watched that so it wouldn’t break through.<br />

And if it sometimes broke through, he was<br />

right away there, because all that fire down<br />

in there, that’s how you make coal. It takes<br />

the moisture out <strong>of</strong> the wood.<br />

Oh, yes. It leaves everything else. How long<br />

would it take?<br />

That I can’t tell you. Then, when it was<br />

done, they’d shovel everything <strong>of</strong>f. Then they’d<br />

get it in great big sacks. They had great big<br />

scoop shovels, I think, or scoop forks, and<br />

they’d fill these sacks, and then they’d make a<br />

big high load on this wagon.<br />

Now, when you were back up there in Euer<br />

Valley that summer, you said there were dairies<br />

in there, and people came up and kept their<br />

cows. Were the people that had their cows up<br />

there Italians, primarily?<br />

Yes. There was Italians. All <strong>of</strong> Sierra Valley<br />

was mostly Swiss-Italian.<br />

Yes, I’ve heard that.<br />

Lot <strong>of</strong> Italians and Swiss-Italians. That’s all<br />

they had was dairies. They milked, and that<br />

was their livelihood. They never sold milk;<br />

they separated. They shipped all the cream<br />

to the Crystal Creamery in Sacramento.<br />

So a lot <strong>of</strong> cream went down <strong>of</strong> f these<br />

mountains?<br />

Oh, yes. Euer Valley and Carpenter<br />

Valley...all those valleys. Around Lake Tahoe<br />

was the same thing.<br />

All those little valleys up there?<br />

There’re several meadows, like up at..<br />

.what do you call that creek? There was a<br />

sawmill in there afterwards.<br />

Martis, maybe?<br />

Martis Creek, yes. Then there was...Squaw<br />

Creek? No, it’s another. The road that goes<br />

down to the other side <strong>of</strong> the summit, down<br />

into Hell Hole country. You’ve heard <strong>of</strong> Hell<br />

Hole?<br />

Yes. You’re not talking about the Yuba [River]?<br />

Well, it’d be on the north fork <strong>of</strong> the start<br />

<strong>of</strong> the American River, I think. Yes.<br />

Back up there in all those valleys, what about<br />

sheep? Did there used to be sheep?<br />

Oh, yes. Then there was places where<br />

the sheep never went in the meadows. The<br />

sheepmen and the cattlemen, they didn’t get<br />

along too well. And the sheep very seldom<br />

went into any meadows. Of course, if they<br />

were small meadows that there wasn’t enough<br />

there to keep a string <strong>of</strong> cows, why, then the<br />

sheepmen.... But the sheep used to travel from<br />

out in the desert here in <strong>Nevada</strong>, and there<br />

was a lot <strong>of</strong> sheep that used to come over<br />

through that way and cross right here in Verdi

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