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glad I hired her because it started us on that track.<br />

GREENBERGER: Absolutely. Now, yes, you did the Super Friends comic<br />

and Shazam! and all, but you also did Welcome Back, Kotter, which felt<br />

like out of left field since it wasn’t based on any comic stuff. Was that<br />

an attempt to try the old licensing gambit that used to work so well?<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: Again, I don’t remember why we did that.<br />

GREENBERGER: Fair enough. Meantime, there was the success of the<br />

Wonder Woman live-action show with the wonderful Lynda Carter.<br />

You know, apparently it was Marty Pasko who suggested taking the<br />

book he was writing and turning it into a World War II book to<br />

mirror the TV show. Were you at all involved in the TV show or the<br />

comics adaptation?<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: No, I wasn’t involved at all with the TV show because that<br />

had been sold by another Warner Communications executive, Ed Blier,<br />

quite independent of us.<br />

GREENBERGER: But apparently, you did have input in the comics<br />

because of the success of the TV show, you took a look at the comic<br />

which at the time was being written by Marty and drawn by Jose<br />

Delbo and said, “Jose isn’t a strong enough artist for this important a<br />

property,” and you insisted he be replaced. Do you remember doing<br />

those sorts of creative decisions?<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: I don’t remember that particular one, but I often had creative<br />

input into the comics in terms of talent and ideas. And ideas would<br />

be pitched to me. I remember Len and Marv coming in, pitching<br />

Teen Titans, and at first, I was thinking, “Teen Titans? What a lame<br />

comic. Who cares about these teenage imitations?” But Len and<br />

Marv had a terrific pitch that reflected the new sensibility we were<br />

fostering and, I’m totally delighted to say, they convinced me.<br />

[chuckles] But the specific decision to remove a Wonder Woman artist,<br />

that I don’t remember.<br />

TRYING OUT NEW FORMATS<br />

GREENBERGER: The other thing is the comics at the time were cutting<br />

back on page count because of the economics. DC was down to, like,<br />

17 pages of story around the time you arrived and one of the things<br />

you were definitely playing with in those first four or five years was<br />

format. There were the original stories in the tabloids, better choices<br />

of the reprint material, you took the Legion and you took the Justice<br />

League and you bumped them up to 48 pages with twice the story<br />

page count. Do you remember playing with all of this stuff and then<br />

working with the editors to figure out what was going to work?<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: What I remember was just trying to give more—give more<br />

value to the readers and find a way to justify raising the price. Not to<br />

raise the price without giving value, but to find a way to add value and<br />

then raise the price so that the economics of comics would be better.<br />

GREENBERGER: And then, of course, there were the Dollar Comics,<br />

which really felt like you were getting your money’s worth.<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: The ill-fated Dollar Comics. I think ultimately, you didn’t get your<br />

money’s worth, even though, based strictly on the page counts, you did.<br />

But because—I remember it only had one lead story of new material and<br />

the rest was reprint. Is that correct, Bobby? You know better than I.<br />

GREENBERGER: Well, no. No, those were the 50-cent, 100-page Super<br />

Spectaculars that were there at the very beginning. But when you gave<br />

us in ’77, ’78, the Dollar Comics. They were 80 pages of new material.<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: Eighty pages of new material. I guess, then, it was in the quality.<br />

Perhaps because we were trying to do so much material at once, it<br />

wasn’t as strong as it might have been. Neal Adams did the covers…<br />

GREENBERGER: He did a lot of the first covers, yeah.<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: But then you had him on the cover, but you didn’t have him<br />

on the inside. I think Dollar Comics were a good concept but they<br />

weren’t executed as well as they might have been and they might<br />

have been a little early.<br />

[Editor’s note: For more on Dollar Comics, see the article beginning<br />

on page 39.]<br />

GREENBERGER: Speaking of the new material in the tabloids,<br />

how involved were you in making the Superman/Muhammad Ali<br />

book a reality?<br />

<strong>KAHN</strong>: Strangely, even though Don King, who was a big boxing<br />

promoter and still had a strong relationship with Muhammad Ali,<br />

even though he came first to Sol’s office and that was the kind of<br />

thing that Sol usually was excited about, he handed it off to me.<br />

I was tremendously involved in the comic and it was an exciting<br />

experience because I got to work with Ali’s team and with Ali himself,<br />

and I wrote about it in the introduction to the recent reissue of<br />

Superman/Muhammad Ali.<br />

And, of course, I was also responsible for one of the colossal<br />

challenges/catastrophes [chuckles] of the Superman/Muhammad Ali<br />

book. I had what I thought was an inspired idea. I said, “We have a<br />

huge double cover with no ad in the back and with Supes and Ali<br />

in the ring together. And who comes to boxing matches? All the<br />

glitterati. So let’s fill the entire audience with famous people,” and we<br />

proceeded to do just that. And Neal drew all these famous people in<br />

the stands. It was only after they were drawn that we learned that if<br />

we were using their likenesses, their images were aiding in the sale<br />

of the comic book, and we needed their permission to use them.<br />

Needless to say, we didn’t have it.<br />

I had to travel the country to try to convince the people who were<br />

already on the cover to allow us to use their likenesses. And when<br />

they wouldn’t give us permission, we had to draw somebody else<br />

with a similar physiognomy in their place. So George C. Scott,<br />

for instance, became Kurt Vonnegut. If I looked at the cover, I could<br />

More for Your Money<br />

JLA and Legion got page count boosts in a Kahn<br />

decision. Cover to Superboy and the Legion of<br />

Super-Heroes #231 (Sept. 1977) by Mike Grell.<br />

TM & © DC Comics.<br />

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