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AMIA Nursing <strong>Informatics</strong> Working Group<br />
Nursing <strong>Informatics</strong> Pioneer Interview<br />
Virginia K. Saba<br />
Interviewer:<br />
Virginia Saba:<br />
Interviewer:<br />
Virginia Saba:<br />
Interviewer:<br />
Virginia Saba:<br />
Please introduce yourself and your current position.<br />
Virginia K. Saba, Distinguished Scholar at Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.<br />
I’m an adjunct pr<strong>of</strong>essor <strong>the</strong>re<br />
What’s your current definition <strong>of</strong> nursing informatics<br />
Well, it’s changed over time. The definition <strong>of</strong> informatics has changed over time. The<br />
one that I like best is <strong>the</strong> one that says informatics is <strong>the</strong> integration <strong>of</strong> computer science,<br />
which is hardware, and information science, which is s<strong>of</strong>tware, and nursing science,<br />
which is <strong>the</strong> nursing practice<br />
Describe your career in nursing, and <strong>the</strong>n how did you get into informatics<br />
Oh, my career in nursing is pretty sporadic. So, basically, I was a home health/public<br />
health community health nurse when I first went into practice. But in late 1960’s, I<br />
worked at <strong>the</strong> National Institute <strong>of</strong> Perinatal Research, where <strong>the</strong>y were conducting a<br />
study <strong>of</strong> 50,000 pregnant women. And I had <strong>the</strong> job <strong>of</strong> coding delivery, labor and<br />
delivery. Well, my biggest argument occurred with a statistician who said, ‘The statistics<br />
show that <strong>the</strong> women during labor went from 1 to 99 centimeters.’ And I said, ‘Sir, that’s<br />
impossible, 10 is <strong>the</strong> highest dilation a woman can go.’ He said, ‘I’m sorry, <strong>the</strong> statistics<br />
show 1 to 99. You don’t understand anything about computer processing.’ Well, anyone<br />
who tells me I don’t understand anything about computer processing got my ire up, and I<br />
started taking courses at IBM. They were <strong>the</strong> only courses at <strong>the</strong> time that were being<br />
<strong>of</strong>fered. And <strong>the</strong>n courses were being <strong>of</strong>fered by <strong>the</strong> Department <strong>of</strong> Defense and in<br />
Department <strong>of</strong> Agriculture.<br />
So after taking several <strong>of</strong> courses, we all agreed that I might as well get a degree and put<br />
my courses to use, so I applied <strong>the</strong> <strong>American</strong> University and took a computer science<br />
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