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Official - Subject to Final Review<br />
in order to keep their conversations confidential, if<br />
that's what they want to do, which lawyers want to do.<br />
So they're going to take precautions that<br />
they wouldn't have had to take the day before this<br />
statute was passed, it seems to me, just from a kind of<br />
commonsensical point of view.<br />
GENERAL VERRILLI: I don't agree with that,<br />
Justice Kagan. I think -- this statute does not<br />
regulate them. It confers authority on the government.<br />
They take whatever precautions they choose to take based<br />
on their beliefs about how that authority's going to be<br />
exercised. That depends on the speculation I described.<br />
What this Court held in Summers is that you<br />
have to have a concrete application of the authority in<br />
order to meet the minimum constitutional requirement for<br />
Article III standing.<br />
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Now we're back at the<br />
same circle we started with, which is the one that<br />
Justice Breyer started with. He pointed to one person<br />
under -- who has been surveilled continuously, tens of<br />
thousands of interceptions. Can you really say that the<br />
government's not going to target him under this greater<br />
authority that it sought just for the purpose of<br />
ensuring that it casts a broader net?<br />
GENERAL VERRILLI: I think -- I think it is<br />
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