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a jury <strong>of</strong> inquiry at Collingbourne Kingston on 20 April 37 Henry VIII [1546] with Thomas Corderoy and William Sotewell,<br />

both <strong>of</strong> Chute.<br />

Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> was mentioned with his cousins, the children <strong>of</strong> his uncle <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong>, in several suits concerning the<br />

entail <strong>of</strong> the manor <strong>of</strong> Littleton in the parish <strong>of</strong> Kimpton. In a suit before the Court <strong>of</strong> Requests, it was recorded that "Jone<br />

<strong>Noyes</strong>, widow [<strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong>, Sr.], <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> [Jr.], Wyll[ia]m <strong>Noyes</strong>, <strong>John</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> the brother <strong>of</strong> the said <strong>Robert</strong>, Nych[o]las<br />

<strong>Noyes</strong>, Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong>, Emma wife <strong>of</strong> the said <strong>Robert</strong>, <strong>John</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> son <strong>of</strong> the said <strong>Robert</strong>, Jone <strong>Noyes</strong> and Anne <strong>Noyes</strong><br />

daughters <strong>of</strong> the said <strong>Robert</strong>" leased the manor <strong>of</strong> Lytleton with appurtenances from the Abbot <strong>of</strong> the Monastary <strong>of</strong> St.<br />

Peters <strong>of</strong> Gloucester. This transaction took place 4 April 15 Henry VIII [1524] and was for the term <strong>of</strong> 61 years. The record<br />

goes on to say that Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> and all but the children <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong> were <strong>of</strong> majority. On 16 July 24 Henry VIII [1532],<br />

another deed was drawn up leasing the manor to "joan <strong>Noyes</strong> the widow, <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong>, Emme, <strong>John</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> the son, Jone<br />

the daughter and Anne <strong>Noyes</strong>, and Margery, Agnes, Mary, Ede and Cecely, daughters <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong> and Emme [born since<br />

the previous contract]," to hold for a period <strong>of</strong> 70 years so long as they should live. Nicholas St. <strong>John</strong> countered that Joan<br />

<strong>Noyes</strong>, widow, and <strong>Robert</strong> meant to defraud William, <strong>John</strong>, and Nicholas <strong>Noyes</strong>, "the brethren <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong>," and Thomas<br />

<strong>Noyes</strong>. Nicholas Seyntjohn had purchased the rights from various parties to the first lease. Nicholas <strong>Noyes</strong> and Thomas<br />

<strong>Noyes</strong> granted their interest to him at "Remrygge" [Ramridge], Hampshire. It was after purchasing those rights that<br />

Nicholas Seyntjohn attempted to enter the manor forcibly. The suit in question was apparently dated 22 June 6 Edward VI<br />

[1552]. <strong>Robert</strong> Annetts, <strong>of</strong> Vyfylde [Fifield], Hants., husbandman, aged 52, deposed that he knew <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong>, "father <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong>," who had taken a lease <strong>of</strong> the manor <strong>of</strong> Lytylton long before the above mentioned leases. He leased the<br />

manor as "<strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> the father," with Jone his wife, Willm <strong>Noyes</strong>, <strong>John</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong>, Nicholas <strong>Noyes</strong>, Robarte <strong>Noyes</strong> now<br />

Complainant and to Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> cousin <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong>e <strong>Noyes</strong> the father." This deposition proves the relationship <strong>of</strong><br />

Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> to the others.<br />

At the time <strong>of</strong> the suit, the term "cousin" meant an uncle/nephew relationship as readily as it would mean cousin in the way<br />

we now interpret the term. Chronology forces the conclusion that Thomas must be the elder <strong>Robert</strong>'s nephew. If the<br />

relationship were further distant, it is very unlikely that Thomas would have been included in the entail <strong>of</strong> the manor with<br />

<strong>Robert</strong> and his children, or that he would be included after <strong>Robert</strong>'s death when his widow Jone renewed the lease. The<br />

most logical conclusion is that Thomas was the only surviving male issue <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong>'s deceased brother, and that <strong>Robert</strong><br />

had been protecting his nephew's interests as his guardian. <strong>Robert</strong>'s brother William and his family were already well<br />

provided for, so there was no reason to include them. Thomas was the male heir <strong>of</strong> the family.<br />

Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> and his descendants acquired both the manor <strong>of</strong> Ramridge and the manor <strong>of</strong> Blissmore Hall in the parish<br />

<strong>of</strong> Weyhill (also known as Penton Grafton). The manors were important because it was on their grounds that the annual<br />

fair was held. Weyhill Fair, "one <strong>of</strong> the largest and most celebrated in England," was held for three days, from September<br />

28 through 30. It brought the "lord <strong>of</strong> the manor <strong>of</strong> Weyhill and others...substantial pr<strong>of</strong>its... In the great days <strong>of</strong> the fair<br />

140, 000 sheep were sometimes sold in a day... It drew folk from all parts <strong>of</strong> the country, insomuch that in 1665 it was<br />

deemed expedient to forbid its being held for fear <strong>of</strong> spreading the plague.<br />

The manors <strong>of</strong> Ramridge and Blissmore Hall appear in later records to be distinctly separate, but the Fair was held partly<br />

on Blissmore Hall Acre, partly on lands belonging to Ramridge, and partly on the parish glebe. Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong> was farmer<br />

<strong>of</strong> the manor <strong>of</strong> Ramridge by 1552/3, by which time his son <strong>Robert</strong> occupied Blissmore Hall. It was in that year that<br />

Thomas conveyed "goods, chattels and household stuff" to his grandson, <strong>John</strong>, son <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong>, who was then "about some<br />

dozen years <strong>of</strong> age." <strong>John</strong> made a deposition stating these facts on 31 May 42 Eliz. I [1600], and listing the specific goods<br />

that had been conveyed to him by his grandfather. Those goods were given to his father <strong>Robert</strong> and carried in a cart from<br />

Ramridge, where his grandfather Thomas was "then farmer," to Blissmore Hall, where <strong>John</strong>'s father <strong>Robert</strong> "then dwelt,"<br />

along with cattle Thomas had given both <strong>Robert</strong> and <strong>John</strong>. Thomas charged <strong>Robert</strong> that <strong>John</strong> should receive the goods at<br />

age twenty, but <strong>John</strong> had never received them (<strong>John</strong> stated that the goods, chattels and household stuff were worth £40).<br />

At <strong>Robert</strong>s death, <strong>John</strong> "did fully and absolutely give" his right in these things to Peter <strong>Noyes</strong>, his son. Peter discharged<br />

and acquitted his uncle, William <strong>Noyes</strong>, <strong>John</strong>'s brother, who was <strong>Robert</strong>'s sole executor, in consideration where<strong>of</strong> William<br />

conveyed the remainder <strong>of</strong> his estate in Blissmore Hall to Peter after William's death. Peter was also to give William's two<br />

daughters 24 marks when he received the farm.<br />

Alexander Bolton, as Master <strong>of</strong> the Almhouse or Hospital <strong>of</strong> Ewelme, Oxford, brought suit against Thomas <strong>Noyes</strong>' son<br />

<strong>Robert</strong>, trying to regain control <strong>of</strong> the manor <strong>of</strong> Ramridge and Weyhill Fair. Master Bolton claimed "the manor <strong>of</strong> Ramryge<br />

otherwise called Weyhill" to be theirs, including "one parcel <strong>of</strong> ground containing one acre in Weyhill together with the<br />

pr<strong>of</strong>its <strong>of</strong> one certain fair there kept yearly by the space <strong>of</strong> three days, that is to say, the day <strong>of</strong> the feast <strong>of</strong> St. Michael the<br />

Archangel, the day before and the day after the same feast." He claimed they had been seised <strong>of</strong> it until 8 Henry VIII<br />

[1517/18], when <strong>John</strong> Rogers <strong>of</strong> Bryanston, Dorset, Esquire, fought for right <strong>of</strong> the manor with the Master <strong>of</strong> the Almhouse<br />

at that time. Master Bolton claimed they won the dispute, but had to admit that "one <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Noyes</strong> claiming and pretending<br />

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