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Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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But then, when it really got out <strong>of</strong> hand, it was during the war. The army took all that<br />

makai country back. We weren’t allowed to go in there for several years so it got a real<br />

good start all through that Range (Paddock) country. I don’t think he could have kept it<br />

out anyway, because it was so strong.<br />

Quite amazing! Just the changes that you’ve seen and what’s happened as the<br />

management...the care <strong>of</strong> the land. That the values…<br />

The way you treat the land, the way you treat the land.<br />

Alright. Going back to grasses, the Pä‘auhau area, the makai section was nothing but<br />

Hilo Grass. Then kikuyu came in and that kikuyu grass kind <strong>of</strong> took a back seat, and then<br />

Pankola came in. Pankola is a comparatively new grass. that we planted all down<br />

through that makai Pä‘auhau area. That took over and that was really good feed, the<br />

cattle really did well on that. So kikuyu came in as a fairly new grass taking the place <strong>of</strong><br />

the old grasses which to my mind, were real good.<br />

You think it was primarily a weather thing though<br />

Weather changed.<br />

The weather changed, those grasses, those older good grasses that you knew as a<br />

young man were having a hard time to survive So kikuyu comes in, they’ve got the Imex<br />

problems<br />

Imex.<br />

And see these changes, transitions going on.<br />

Now you got this yellow flower [fire weed] plant that’s all through Kohala and Kahuä,<br />

that’s taking over.<br />

Do you know what that is Not the dandelion thing<br />

No, growing all on the hill up here.<br />

It’s from New Zealand or Australia, Rally<br />

Australia, I think.<br />

Billy was telling us, it’s toxic down there.<br />

Yes.<br />

The cattle don’t touch it here.<br />

Yes.<br />

Wow!<br />

It’s up on this hill up here too, someday it’s going to be all yellow and beautiful.<br />

Amazing! I don’t want to wear you out, I don’t want to over talk.<br />

No, no, you don’t wear him out, he’s strong.<br />

I know it can be kind <strong>of</strong> a hassle talking story, especially if I’m not…<br />

No, it’s interesting.<br />

I am really intrigued by all <strong>of</strong> these things that you share, you’re coming into the<br />

transitions and how you folks finally kept a couple hundred head down here. And that you<br />

were running them, trucking them basically, across the section from Puakö out to<br />

Kawaihae. Just the changes that have occurred on the land. Is there a place that stands<br />

out as being… Was there someplace that the Hawaiians pointed out to you as being,<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:44

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