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Overheard…at the Trade-O-Reeby Paul MyersThe NEW Philadelphia (Reading,PA.) TOR got off to a good if somewhatshaky start. After several mediocreyears at Wilmington, the new locationis desirable and accessible. Short noticeand scheduled on a Jewish holidayhurt attendance this year but everythinglooks good for the future. About 100table renters this year and more localwalk through than before.Reports from the Jamboree TOR’swere that most dealers were pleasedwhile traders were somewhat unhappy.I’m hearing that there will be 2 TOR’sat pre-NOAC (Chris Jensen & NSCS)and don’t think it will be as big a deal aslast NOAC. Dealers need an outlet tosell common material to casual collectorswhile others, myself in particular,have no interest in having hundreds ofcasual collectors rummage through bettermaterial. Our hobby has grown toobig for aggressive dealers to allow othersto influence their business.Roy More has been criticized for notproviding the 2 nd Bernie Miller sale bookin a timely manner. At Pittsburgh, Roytold me that when he realized the bookwas going to be late for the auction thathe went into a rewrite mode to make itmore useful. I have been told (October‘97) that its in the mail.Did you get everything you wantedfrom the Jamboree? I was surprised atthe lack of Jambo material available atthe Philly TOR. Hardly anyone haddupes of JSP’s or staff junk. Sale listsimmediately after the Jambo carried lotsof items but I wonder if after Jambo anyonecares. This might be a newphenomenon, the Yoda or Cat in the Hatetc. JSP’s are only desirable to kids atthe Jamboree. The pocket patch andneckerchief was all that I cared about.Aggressive “diggers” have beenadvertising in local papers for rare OAbadges for many years. With the adventof personal 800 numbers, adsare increasing. Some dealers areemploying people to research and digup valuable items. If you know localpeople who have valuable material,advise them of the value and expressan interest. It’s too late after they’vesold the items by mail.John Bibo, well-known nationaltrader and longtime collector is sellinghis massive collection through TheScout Patch Auction. Paul Biggs disposedof his OA and memorabiliacollection in the spring. Nelson Englesis selling due to health problems. ExpensiveOA material seems to beleveling. Did you see the 219F (slightuse) on Brush Creek’s sale for$2800? I paid $4500 for mine in1988. I’m told there were four 219’savailable at the Jambo TOR’s.TOR etiquette— BUYERS: if youacquire something at below marketvalue don’t go around bragging anddon’t put the item on your table for ahigher price, at the same event.SELLERS: if you don’t know whatyour stuff is worth, don’t put it on yoursale table. Contact a dealer or a pricerealized guide, before the TOR. If youabsolutely must have top dollar, sendthe item off for auction. ❏OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE THOSE OF THEAUTHOR AND NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OFTHIS PUBLICATION.(continued from page 4)can be contacted at 11513 Sutters MillCir., Gold River, CA 95670-7203-1 Telephone(916) 638-7314.It would be interesting to know if aphotograph of the Moqua Chapter of theOwasippe Tribe has survived the years. Itwould also be interesting to learn if anyoneknows about the Order of the Arrowpins, which appear to have awarded toScouts who became Ordeal Members.Thank you again for sending me acopy of the Journal. I would like to eventuallyprepare an article for publicationon my fathers scouting career and becomea member of the Historical Society.Yours in ScoutingDavid ClementEagle ScoutGold River, CADear [Editor]:Congratulations on the 1996 SpringIssue of the Journal. The cover pictureand the accompaning article of the “Classof 38” was outstanding. I could identifyseveral of the St. Louis area scouts andscouters from the cover photo. I wouldlike to obtain a copy of the photos in thearticle and any others that may be availablefrom that event. Irondale was afavorite long term camp from the earlytwenties until it closed in the fifties.Thanking you in advance,John H. Remelius28 Number 6 – Winter 1998
Dear [Editor]:I enjoyed the article on Class of 38in the Journal. You may or may notknow that in 1930 the two founders ofSuanhacky lodge were Joe Brinton andCharles Heistand (brother of Robert). Iwrote a book on the history of QueensCouncil and the order of the Arrow fromits founding in 1915. Unfortunately, itsstill in manuscript. I am trying to get thelodge and have been trying for 4 years topublish it.I actually met Charles Heistand in1980 as he was our guest of honor at the1980 50th Anniversary Banquet. I nevermet Joe Brinton but did correspond andspeak with him several times.The last time I spoke with him wasabout 1992. He was well aware of all thechanges in the Order of the Arrow. Healways stayed informed so he really didkeep up with the OA at least until 1992.I believe he passed away in 1994 orthereabouts. Technically his letter is correct;but not in substance. i.e. In 1936Queens Council broke up into 8 districtsand 8 district service divisions of the OAwere formed to service each district.These district service divisions evolvedinto chapters, as he states, in the 1940’sbut really didn’t have names until thelate 1950’s. So although they weren’tofficially chapters until the 1940’s theywere district service areas in the late30’s. They were called Chapter Two ofJackson Heights for example. In the late50’s District Two adopted the name TaWa Pa Ki. So too District One withWhite Buffalo (Woapsu Sisilijia) and soon. By 1960 there were 12 districts and12 chapters. In 1964 all were mergedinto North, East, South, West andRockaway. Then West was split in two,North in two in the 70’s. In the 80’sNorth was reformed as Dan Beard,Rockaway was absorbed by South whobecame Tomahawk. This year, 1996 anew reorganization took place. Therewill be only 3 districts as of June 1st.Take care. WWW,Dr. Eugene M. BermanJackson Heights, N.Y.MANY OF YOU HAVE ASKED WHERE WE HAVEBEEN FOR SO LONG, WELL PUBLISHING THISJOURNAL HAS BEEN MORE WORK THAN WEEVER EXPECTED. SINCE THE LAST JOURNALWE HAVE HAD MANY DISTRACTIONS. TheBlue Book, MOVING HALF WAY ACROSS THECOUNTRY (BILL, JODY, JAKE COREY ANDALEC ARE NOW LIVING IN PARK CITY, UT)AND HAVING A BABY (TOM AND VALERIEHAD A BABY GIRL, EMMA) HAVE ALL TAKENUP ALOT OF TIME. THE PLAN IS TO PUBLISHAT LEAST ONE JOURNAL A YEAR. ✯SEEKINGCivil War-relatedScout MemorabiliaHistoric Trails • PilgrimagesCommemorativesbuy – sell – tradeJohn Snead3040 South Eugene St.Baton Rouge, LA 70808Investors and SellersServicesIf you have patches to sellor need an honest appraisalof your collection give us acall. You can consign yourpatches to appear on thisauction or we buy collectionsoutright at fair prices.Furthermore, if you are aninvestor looking to assemblea quality portfolio of investmentgrade patches, let usknow. Whether you acquirethem from us or any otherdealer our advice on pricesand which pieces to buy willbe invaluable to yoursuccess. Contact:Bill Topkis(435) 655-8899Dr. Jeff Morley(415) 474-1555(504) 346-8540snead@earthlink.netJournal of The American Scouting Historical Society29
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