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18123456judges determine at trials that my -- that eitherthe Plaintiff failed to prove their prima faciecase or the testimony proffered by an expert or bythe fact witness was indicative of unclean handswhich barred the Plaintiff receiving the relief forforeclosure. Yes, that has occurred.7THE COURT:So and so, they'll never be able8to foreclose on your client?9MR. BLEIL:Depending on how the case comes1011121314of issue, yes. If it's an issue that would pertaina res judicata and/or collateral estoppel, yes.But, if it's --THE COURT: Yes, yes --MR. BLEIL: It would be --15THE COURT:So what you're suggesting1617eventually is that your client should be able tostay in this house forever?1819MR. BLEIL:Judge, yes --That has been the result. And20THE COURT: No, no, no, Mr. Ticktin --21222324MR. BLEIL:THE COURT:MR. BLEIL:THE COURT:Bleil.Mr. Bleil or Bile?Bleil, yes.You -- so is that what you're25going to ask this Court to do? To determine thatAlternative Court Reporting, LLC 954.832.3563
1912Mr. Ayala; is that correct?MS. WEINZETL: Cuenca, Your Honor.34MR. BLEIL:THE COURT:It's Cuenca.I'm sorry, Cuenca. I have Cuenca567Ayala -- Cuenca. You're going to eventually standthere and say, 'Judge, my client should be able tolive there forever.'8MR. BLEIL:Yes, if the Plaintiff cannot91011121314prove their prima facie case. If they cannot showthat they own and hold the note pursuant to theTrust Agreement, and/or if there are unclean handsindicative of the Plaintiff's wrong doing, whichwould bar them from receiving their equitablerelief for foreclosure, yes Judge. And --15THE COURT:I think this is a very161718192021222324interesting issue. I think the Third District isgoing to have to tell us that under thesecircumstances we should listen to this testimonyand if this testimony proves what -- what you'vepurported to prove that a person who borrowedhundreds of thousands of dollars should never haveto repay it and should be able to live in the housefor free, forever.MS. WEINZETL: Your Honor, may I --25THE COURT:Because I'm not doing it.Alternative Court Reporting, LLC 954.832.3563
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